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[2:14] I'd like to call to order the uh speci

[2:17] committee this conect city council on

[2:19] Thursday February 15th and we just had

[2:22] one committee which is um City

[2:24] development and planning and uh our

[2:26] purpose tonight is to discuss the um the

[2:29] to review the arpa rescue plan act

[2:32] funding so you all have a lot of

[2:34] documents in front of

[2:36] you and so I really wanted to have this

[2:39] meeting because we've been doing

[2:41] allocations for seem like a couple of

[2:44] years and we really need to at the end

[2:46] of 20 24 all the money needs to be

[2:50] allocated to projects there are some

[2:52] projects that are um still have time to

[2:56] come up with their contingencies but

[2:58] tonight I just wanted to make sure that

[2:59] we' over what we have where everything

[3:02] is and what we need to be looking for um

[3:05] down the road so sorry what was the date

[3:09] has to be allocated the end of 24

[3:11] December

[3:13] 2024 so um Miss Miss haror provided us

[3:17] with information which is also in your

[3:19] packet towards the end to go over what's

[3:22] currently in

[3:25] contract so I thought that you know

[3:27] we're going to be doing probably some

[3:29] cross referencing with documents but I

[3:31] thought that was a good place to start

[3:33] just to kind of Revo that so everyone

[3:37] has that it's towards the end of the

[3:41] it's no this just this sheet that she

[3:44] printed out for us that was made it very

[3:56] concise

[3:58] than

[4:14] um so I just need to their question is

[4:16] going to probably come up about how much

[4:17] money is left and today Mr uh Google M

[4:21] said there was about $50,000 after all

[4:23] that's

[4:24] out after only $50,000 left is that what

[4:28] you well prior to our last allocation it

[4:30] was only 2.5 something so yes what's

[4:33] been allocated so that doesn't count

[4:35] what's still out there that if it's a

[4:38] possibility we be bringing it back but

[4:41] in terms of allocation that's what he

[4:43] said there

[4:49] was so we can go through these um

[4:52] discuss having any questions if um

[4:55] discussing any of them and then it it

[4:57] goes on to page two about about some

[4:59] other ones where there's there's asks

[5:01] for additional money but as I said right

[5:04] now he said there's a there's about

[5:09] $50,000 and there's some questions that

[5:12] well I'll wait till we get

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[5:20] there so everybody have you look through

[5:23] the first under in contract we're

[5:25] everybody's comfortable with those in

[5:28] contract okay

[5:30] um and then the next one is appending

[5:32] the contract draft which is Coco house

[5:35] and dcni Hamilton Hill inl project so I

[5:38] think that's pretty easy you could just

[5:40] go through that you know those are

[5:42] already handled

[5:43] basically and if you're in if you need

[5:46] want to know exactly how much money is

[5:48] allocated there's a chart on the front

[5:50] of this that tells you what's allocated

[5:52] to each

[5:55] project and do we need to go through

[5:58] that yes on resolution 22

[6:17] 214 so the and

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[6:21] 22224 the Miron Craig Street money

[6:25] 1.25 what happens with that well we're

[6:29] not there so let's um so let's let's kind of go through where they are

[6:36] on there it's just easier if we go

[6:37] through it as it is on the sheet that

[6:39] Miss uh that Miss Carver provided for us

[6:42] will she be present this evening she

[6:44] will not be not okay so miss dor you

[6:47] were saying that you want to know line

[6:48] by line how much money was allocated to

[6:50] each it's in the documentation provided

[6:58] great

[7:09] WC there's the

[7:12] scre and just keep in mind what what you

[7:14] have before you or ones that actually

[7:17] funding was allocated to right you're on

[7:20] page

[7:21] four right well just Pages four through

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[7:28] yeah resolution number 22 222 214 and

[7:34] 222 2022 224 those are the um resolution

[7:40] where we allocated the funding okay so

[7:43] City projects are under in contract they

[7:46] separate so um yes yeah the short answer

[7:50] is yes

[7:52] y there is one city contract I just want

[7:55] to bring forward to say that at this

[7:57] point in time uh um our chief engineer

[8:01] Mr Wallen says that Riverside

[8:04] Park they haven't really he there's

[8:06] money is set aside there's no plan right

[8:08] now so I just want to make you aware of

[8:10] that I hav't seen that how about it's on

[8:13] page nine so the Aquatic Cent on the

[8:17] second page that's gone yes we resed

[8:20] that we resented the money for the appli

[8:22] center that's

[8:26] gone yes Mr Williams m Mr C announced

[8:30] like U I know the money's allocated any

[8:33] plans or is he foreseeing any issues

[8:35] with Mr wow Mr

[8:37] W Mr W with regards to Riverside Park P

[8:42] says the money has been allocated but

[8:43] there's been no plan so right now

[8:45] whether there's the park committee is

[8:46] not meeting um I know that the mayor

[8:48] talked about a skateboard park I think

[8:50] down there um but right now there's no

[8:52] plan is what he said

[8:54] today I'm not saying that we're talking

[8:56] about moving the money now but I just

[8:58] want you to be aware

[9:08] okay so um so we're not the Central Park

[9:11] Pool obviously we're not talking about

[9:13] let's start with 20

[9:15] 214

[9:18] okay if that's easier for all right so

[9:22] we're not talking about the pool

[9:23] obviously at the golf course uh the

[9:25] money for the Aquatic Center was

[9:27] descended from that project um so now

[9:30] we're at Miracle on Craig

[9:32] street according to

[9:35] what M Carver has provided to us it says

[9:39] it's currently in the hands of

[9:40] Corporation Council so I would ask Miss

[9:43] um Mr barash what we is uh I just have

[9:47] to uh record the Deeds at the thir the

[9:52] returning the properties to the city so

[9:54] I just need to get to the uh county

[9:57] office to report the Deeds so that was

[9:59] an effec transfer I'm hoping to get

[10:01] there tomorrow

[10:04] okay and so um well we all know what the

[10:07] project was and we know what we

[10:08] allocated towards it

[10:13] and so I don't know if anyone has heard

[10:15] from other people but however I have

[10:17] heard from U others regarding um wanting

[10:20] the project to still move forward

[10:24] so yes M Williams yep so in line with

[10:28] that I would be very uh opposed to

[10:30] reappropriate those funds to any other

[10:32] projects uh definitely this um one

[10:35] project facilitates a really big need

[10:37] within that Community but also offers

[10:39] additional resources in addition to our

[10:41] boys and girls club uh I think everyone

[10:43] could appreciate uh I think Mr manini in

[10:46] your uh inauguration you you you

[10:48] highlighted uh the importance of the

[10:50] Carver Center and I think every year

[10:52] that that is not reinstituted uh is is I

[10:55] think a disservice to the community I

[10:57] think with this arpa funds

[10:59] uh very much this is generational money

[11:01] that we should use appropriately and I

[11:03] believe with this project it meets a lot

[11:05] of ass within the community um from

[11:07] myself I've heard informally about a I

[11:10] guess quote unquote Coalition that would

[11:12] be interested so I think I'd like to

[11:14] hear if anyone's reached out to the

[11:15] mayor um but definitely I'd like to see

[11:18] our best efforts to ensure that this

[11:19] project is still able to be uh pushed

[11:25] through there has been informal

[11:27] inquiries from the group that I believe

[11:29] is uh has the wherewithal to put a

[11:33] package

[11:38] together um Can to to keep it as a

[11:40] community center or for a different

[11:43] use a community center

[11:50] format a community center format can you just give me a little bit more

[11:55] there I'm not sure what that really

[11:57] means the initial Lor would be

[12:04] daycare and there's no other group

[12:05] that's approached you oh well okay I

[12:09] know there's another group that's

[12:10] reached out to your office so um just so you know that didn't happen in

[12:15] group reached out to me and it's not I

[12:17] did hear about the daycare group though

[12:19] as well but reached out to me and I

[12:20] don't know if any other council members get phone

[12:22] calls from any other groups no okay well

[12:24] there's those those two groups that uh

[12:27] reached out so Mr Williams has someone

[12:30] reached out to you as well yes not in

[12:32] regards to a daycare though okay so I I

[12:35] heard from both What were what was

[12:37] what's the other one to to keep it a

[12:39] community center for it to be a

[12:41] community center not with the U not with

[12:43] the daycare being the um anchor but the

[12:47] maybe the daycare could be a tenant as

[12:50] if we know about Carver before for those

[12:52] of you that don't know um Carver was a

[12:54] community center and there was a daycare

[12:56] in there so the other group talking

[12:59] about remaining as a daycare and having

[13:01] and excuse me remaining as a community

[13:03] center where um it stays a community

[13:05] center and they can have daycare

[13:06] services in there um and also in my

[13:10] thinking when we're talking about the

[13:11] Craig M connection I don't see why that

[13:14] could not somehow we could look at that

[13:16] and ask for some additional funding to

[13:17] do this project because it's right on

[13:19] cig street so that it stays um as commun

[13:23] set so that appar clearly there's some

[13:26] conversations that's going to be had

[13:27] around that

[13:31] did you have your hand up yes okay Mr so based on the conversation um there's

[13:35] two group that is in communication with

[13:38] Mr Williams

[13:40] mfield can you have those two groups

[13:42] submit a proposal and who are those two

[13:49] groups well I don't know if they're ready to I mean I we can I can

[13:53] tell you I don't know if they're they

[13:55] haven't said anything publicly so what I

[13:56] can go back to them instead ready to

[13:58] submit a prop proposal why don't we do

[13:59] it that way yeah I think that would be

[14:01] ideal is to have these two groups submit

[14:03] their proposal in writing mhm okay I

[14:06] think that's what we'll we'll do it that

[14:08] way as opposed to saying if this group

[14:09] if that group we'll ask them if because

[14:10] then we'll know if we get something

[14:12] formal from them then we'll know we can

[14:14] talk that once they submit their

[14:16] proposal then we can invite them to do a

[14:17] presentation to us

[14:21] right I'm sorry I'm sorry you had your

[14:23] hand up I'm sorry I'm just thinking

[14:26] about this um I have to say that I

[14:30] think I me that's that's a good chunk of

[14:33] change that we could be using in other

[14:34] ways for some of the other projects that

[14:36] have submitted money uh submitted you

[14:39] know requests for the funding um in

[14:42] light of the fact that we only have

[14:43] $50,000 left this is another you know

[14:46] whole pocket so I do hear what Mr Mudan

[14:49] is saying that I think that would be

[14:51] appreciated if we had a proposal or two

[14:54] uh to actually be looking at something

[14:56] daycare is certainly in need um um I'm

[14:59] not as convinced about the community

[15:01] center need given some of the other um

[15:03] opportunities that exist there

[15:07] um is it's when you say there I mean in

[15:11] that in that neighborhood in that area

[15:13] um but is it the same group that was

[15:16] doing miracle on Craig Street I mean do

[15:18] we know that the answer is no okay I'm

[15:22] not going to negotiate in public if you

[15:24] want to Executive session I'll give you

[15:27] the update of okay

[15:29] so like I said as Mr suggested we'll

[15:32] just ask them to submit the proposals

[15:34] anybody coming forward the reality is

[15:36] this project is about $2 million short

[15:38] if every dollar that's on the table now

[15:42] is put forward so somebody that doesn't

[15:44] have $2

[15:46] million yeah in a readily available

[15:50] funding stream I don't considering a

[15:53] serious Contender this okay as the

[15:54] council president pointed out we are

[15:56] under a deadline now

[15:59] of December 31st and the reality is you

[16:03] know it's really December 1st by the

[16:05] time anything is straggling out

[16:10] there

[16:12] Mr and that's what I was going to add to

[16:14] because if the groups that is is making

[16:17] calls they need to come forward with

[16:20] partners with Partners who's going to be

[16:23] coming to this project and exactly if

[16:24] you're if it's under $2 million right

[16:27] now on paper we need to get people

[16:29] involved in in you know organization or

[16:31] Foundation that is willing to commit

[16:33] additional money we can't just go what

[16:35] happened here

[16:37] unfortunate that we allocated $1.25

[16:40] million and there is no additional

[16:42] partners and we were we were told over

[16:45] and over that um this was going to

[16:47] happen that there people are there ready

[16:49] to to to jump you know on board and make

[16:52] um funding commitment and this project

[16:54] is still here with no other partners we

[16:56] do not want to go down this road again

[16:59] y Mr Char um I agree with what Mr mudon

[17:02] just said and the mayor brought up the

[17:04] timeline that we're working with

[17:07] yes the um and since the um the uh deed

[17:11] is coming back to the city I mean the

[17:13] city

[17:14] should again decide this

[17:17] 1.25 million should go into whatever the

[17:21] city's going to do to make this building

[17:23] I don't think we can exactly say that

[17:25] yet I think we have to look at

[17:26] everything that comes to the table so

[17:27] should we said deadline on the proposals

[17:30] um I mean we can ask for proposals but

[17:33] when you want them

[17:35] in are we March 31st was is our deadline

[17:38] well March the early the earlier we can

[17:41] get it is better because we're have

[17:43] we're in March already so the deadline I

[17:45] think was March 12th that we gave on a

[17:48] couple of the the couple of the

[17:49] exensions um is February 15th y so

[17:55] um the mayor did I mean mayor if you

[17:58] want reach out to I know I know both

[17:59] groups and so I know that you know who

[18:01] the other group is so if you want to

[18:02] reach out to them and um ask that and I

[18:04] will reach out to the other group so

[18:06] that we then will formally know that

[18:08] these groups really are

[18:11] interested okay yes Mr Willams and I I

[18:14] truly think it's worth noting I don't

[18:16] think we should be so quick to discredit

[18:18] uh the efforts of the original group

[18:20] that was foreseeing or managing the

[18:22] Miracle on CED project it was a a very

[18:25] uh I I appreciate the work that they

[18:27] were able to do up to this point uh they

[18:30] saw this project continue to be a focal

[18:32] point for a significant amount of years

[18:34] I think we all can agree to the fact

[18:36] that they weren't able to secure

[18:38] additional funding as the mayor

[18:40] recognized which is an important aspect

[18:43] of this but I really do uh value uh the

[18:46] work that they were able to up to the

[18:47] work that they were able to do up to

[18:49] this point and I think if there is any

[18:51] ability for our city to then put itself

[18:53] into uh this mix to ensure this project

[18:56] is saw through to its fruition I think

[18:58] again the community is only going to be

[18:59] the one to benefit and I think there

[19:01] were some barriers to uh other um

[19:05] Financial contributors um uh adding on

[19:08] to this project so hopefully with the

[19:10] backing of a coalition which would

[19:12] represent multiple organizations that

[19:14] might uh sway some additional funding to

[19:16] come to this um however I do agree

[19:18] though that our timeline we are up

[19:20] against the wall we do have the end of the year and I I do think if

[19:24] these Coalition if this Coalition is

[19:26] serious about coming forward I think is

[19:28] our responsibility to at least hear them

[19:30] out uh with an open and objective

[19:34] ear Mr M yeah if you're going to do that

[19:37] because we have to look at the Timeline

[19:38] I'm not sure when did we extend Aman CRA

[19:41] to March March 12th March

[19:43] 15 uh I think it's if we're going to do

[19:47] that we have to get this Coalition this

[19:49] group in prior to that because it's very

[19:51] important because we have another one

[19:53] also on March 12th that we going to go

[19:55] this this year so we need to um

[19:57] absolutely a Level Playing Field across

[19:59] the board in terms of are we going to

[20:02] extend and if we're not going to extend

[20:03] then we need toate the money into

[20:06] projects that's going to benefit

[20:08] us right and and so let me just and I

[20:11] know the people are talking about other

[20:12] projects but I also don't want to let's

[20:15] let loose sight of that the city is

[20:16] going to have to bond money so if

[20:18] there's money that we can reallocate I'm

[20:20] very much in favor in putting the

[20:21] projects that we don't have to bond

[20:23] because bonding means that we're

[20:24] borrowing and we have to pay back and if

[20:25] we can put it towards that I see that is

[20:28] a as a road to go down so I just want to

[20:30] make sure that you know we have the

[20:32] conversation about that because you know

[20:34] why borrow money if you and there's an

[20:35] opportunity or yeah to lower the amount

[20:38] that you're borrowing so just yes

[20:42] something just my my about the surveys

[20:44] that was offer on MAR is there something

[20:47] similar that is being done at CoCo house

[20:50] kind of similar no PO house is strictly

[20:53] about uh after it's like an after school

[20:55] PR after school program only yes that's

[20:57] all that it is and the um and so because

[21:01] I heard what you said so um if you if

[21:04] you're talking about the electric city

[21:05] Barn that's really a maker space and

[21:07] what has happened with Electric City

[21:09] Barn it was just a discussion because

[21:11] they had an event there the other night

[21:12] it turns into having to use it as a

[21:14] community center because there's a lack

[21:16] of the community center I guess I meant

[21:19] the programmatic aspects of what the

[21:21] community center at Caro had done and

[21:24] for example the programs for youth are

[21:26] definitely being offered by boys and

[21:29] girls club by Coco house um I mean you

[21:32] know these programs at the two library

[21:34] branches um I don't think during the

[21:38] school day right they they didn't have

[21:40] services for youth during the school day

[21:42] did they wouldn't it they did have a

[21:44] program if a child wasn't able to I mean

[21:46] we're really I mean we can go we can if

[21:48] we want to talk about that in really in

[21:50] depth they did have a program if a child

[21:51] was not able to stay in school because

[21:53] they were suspended there was a program

[21:55] where the children could go to the

[21:57] Carver and they wen't in a program I

[21:59] believe it was called the laer program

[22:00] so the answer to that question is

[22:02] yes so um but we will ask for the

[22:05] proposal so because I don't want to you

[22:06] know belabor just skip stuff on that

[22:08] particular

[22:10] one uh the city of skin jury

[22:13] foundation so this one and was

[22:17] one uh that I understand that it's been

[22:20] put on hold a May if you could speak to

[22:24] that we're still looking at the

[22:28] Empowerment Center in this project and

[22:31] I'm

[22:32] not up to date on what the actual

[22:35] negotiation are

[22:37] about possible merger cross utilization

[22:40] of some of the space or program

[22:42] development when you say this project

[22:44] which project do you

[22:46] make both of them Dua and the

[22:49] Empowerment

[22:51] Center so all right so we're not going to so the Empowerment

[22:57] Center Dury is contingent upon the

[22:59] Empowerment Center because that's not

[23:00] how they submitted their applications

[23:02] but is that what we're

[23:03] doing I'm not sure what we're doing it

[23:06] involved to something that separate from

[23:09] what the initial applications were all

[23:12] right so well we'll definitely have to

[23:15] take a look at that I'll ask

[23:18] Miss I'll ask Miss Carver about that

[23:20] because you know we're getting I anyway

[23:22] multiple and let's just so you know when

[23:24] people call me I give them all of your

[23:25] numbers and tell them to call you

[23:29] like you need to call

[23:31] everybody um so that would be a question

[23:33] for Miss Carver about yeah well I would

[23:36] like some um clarification as

[23:38] clarification on that yes

[23:42] so right from the start it wasn't a

[23:44] combined project between the two or two

[23:47] entities no it was not I see so I'm

[23:51] looking at the

[23:52] additional

[23:54] okay all right the conc foundation Sun

[23:59] connect uh for the healthy food

[24:03] access so are there questions regarding

[24:05] this one well I actually will say that

[24:09] right from the start it was also

[24:11] supposed to include concern for the

[24:12] hungry as you can see on the grid on

[24:15] page five and it just kept getting not

[24:18] put on to the other grid I think in

[24:20] every single meeting I kept saying what

[24:22] happened to concern for the hungry what

[24:23] happened to concern for the hungry so at

[24:26] in discussions that I had with previous

[24:28] Staffing in the development office

[24:33] um they basically had told me that and

[24:36] told concern for the hungry that the

[24:38] money that they had given to the sky

[24:40] Foundation um part of it was to be used

[24:43] for the

[24:45] transportation program that concerned

[24:47] for the hungry wanted to run but that

[24:48] never occurred so we got another um

[24:52] email recently from concerned for the

[24:54] Hungary as we went down this path uh

[24:57] still requesting funds um be allocated

[25:00] for the transportation program so I just

[25:03] wanted to put that back on the table

[25:04] because it didn't happen as part of this

[25:06] Coalition you can see it's on the grid

[25:09] here too right it's on this

[25:12] grid um so I just want to you know some

[25:15] hope that somebody would make sure that

[25:18] either this money part of the $950,000

[25:22] goes towards that Transportation program

[25:26] or I mean if we only have $50,000 left

[25:29] that's you that would be I think I think

[25:32] he the email that we got recently I'd

[25:35] have to go back and look but I feel like

[25:36] it was 40 or $50,000 right there that

[25:39] they were asking for does anyone I don't

[25:42] remember the the the number but um Mr M

[25:45] so so this one is showing on on this G

[25:47] here is in contract does that mean that

[25:50] contract was awarded for foundation s

[25:52] and

[25:53] Sun concern concerned for

[25:58] Foundation cover

[26:00] um so we we going to award 950 to

[26:05] Foundation we did they had the ability

[26:08] to draw down 950 as they develop the

[26:12] program I don't know what's actually

[26:14] been draw

[26:18] down um and in terms of uh I did also

[26:21] get the email for from the group

[26:23] concerned for the hungry and one of the

[26:25] um concerns was with their applic was

[26:28] the use of those particular funds I

[26:29] remember this from the is that they

[26:32] wanted to

[26:33] buy bu

[26:35] token and give them out to people yeah

[26:38] but what they what they were really

[26:39] doing was working with the network of

[26:41] food pantries and actually giving money

[26:43] to the food pantries that could then be

[26:45] given out as for example an Uber or ayt

[26:49] or whatever to people because it's such

[26:51] a ma major barrier um transportation is

[26:55] probably the number one barrier for

[26:56] folks that are using using various food

[26:59] pantries um because they can't get home

[27:02] with the bags of food it's very

[27:04] difficult for them to to do that so um

[27:07] so I think conf hungry actually ended up

[27:10] just using some of their own funds to

[27:12] continue doing that uh through the food

[27:15] pantry so they're not actually handing

[27:17] you know you or I um a bus token they're giving money to the pantries to

[27:23] be used for transportation and that's

[27:25] what they were still looking for f

[27:28] I have to review well first of all this

[27:30] needs to then if this is already in

[27:31] contract and supposed to be a part of

[27:33] that then we need to be talking to

[27:35] Foundation ask contact Foundation ask

[27:39] them to work with concern for the hung

[27:42] or maybe um ask the development

[27:46] office or we should go through the devel

[27:49] um office Development Office concerned

[27:52] for the Hungary requested a $100,000,000

[27:55] that's the most recent email yeah let's

[28:01] break so so so that's in contact they

[28:04] that's going to have to is anyone like

[28:06] are we holding anyone responsible to

[28:08] report back to us on how they're yeah

[28:11] appropriating this money it'll be part

[28:13] of the contracts that they would have to

[28:15] meet certain objectives and report back

[28:17] um on meeting those objectives the same

[28:19] as when we do the cdbg

[28:23] contracts so are you are you asking like

[28:25] are we doing or is Department of

[28:27] development development

[28:30] absolutely um the little leagues uh the

[28:33] Blue Jays so we know that a lot of this

[28:36] project was already done the money let

[28:37] me see yeah this money

[28:41] allocated mov forward is there is there

[28:44] anything left in that

[28:45] Alle the work that's largely been

[28:48] completed at Michigan Avenue but you s

[28:51] for Oregon Avenue that look to be done

[28:54] this season right so the money would

[28:56] stay there but now we need to do what's

[28:58] needs to be done at Oregon Avenue I was

[29:00] just speaking with the gentleman from

[29:01] Oregon Avenue out there so um can we have Alex find out how much

[29:09] money is left from that 350 well we can

[29:11] find that from yeah there was a

[29:12] resolution that we recently passed Mr W

[29:15] came for us for allocation for M

[29:18] Pleasant and there was like close to

[29:22] 170ish remaining about that don't quote

[29:24] me but somewhere resolution remaining

[29:28] towards Oregon Avenue so far they this

[29:31] is from 350 you all have the document as

[29:34] well 800 uh 88,000 has been 950 has been

[29:38] expended um and then you came for for an

[29:41] additional funding to bring that problem

[29:44] right yes so in with all with there's

[29:47] about half half um half they had spent

[29:50] about half yes so proba right there's an

[29:53] arbit analysis and it goes through all

[29:56] the programs and how much in

[30:01] sp there would be a lot of cross

[30:03] referencing into these documents

[30:04] actually are in communication because um

[30:07] when we discussed thatd when sorry when

[30:09] we had discussed that um at the city

[30:11] council meeting here they there were

[30:13] some emails back and forth to Mr wall

[30:16] and he is engaging on the folks at oron

[30:21] and the development of that

[30:24] part so so was was this 350 but they

[30:28] wanted and they spent a certain amount

[30:30] but they wanted to finish the wall and I

[30:31] actually drove by to see the wall and it

[30:33] did look a little unfinished until the

[30:36] additional um money was allocated so

[30:38] it's still from the same 350 but they

[30:40] allocated a certain amount over to

[30:43] um over to Michigan and then the rest

[30:45] will go over to air

[30:54] for uh seat Center is already in

[30:57] contract I do believe

[31:06] yes safe incorporate um is already also

[31:09] the safe house is already in contract

[31:12] yep the Green Market is in

[31:26] contract and we can go on to um the next

[31:30] resolution where that's where the rest

[31:31] of them are 20

[31:40] 20224 on page nine because the ones

[31:42] before the city

[31:45] projects so we already know that Jerry

[31:47] barell and the Central Park Pool and all

[31:49] that's those are City projects moving

[31:50] ahead um bcni for the uh foreclosure

[31:55] prevention is in contract

[32:00] uh they're calling it the infill project

[32:02] but I believe this is the same way as

[32:04] the um the own occupied weh have no no

[32:06] it's not take it that no it's not the in

[32:11] okay so the there's pending contract uh

[32:13] for the bcn I

[32:16] [Music]

[32:20] Hamilton and then the dcni owner

[32:24] occupied home repair and rehabilitation

[32:26] program is in contract

[32:28] [Music]

[32:31] MH Electric City Food

[32:33] Co-op is pending submission of preon

[32:37] contractual documents that's what it

[32:40] [Music]

[32:41] says I think the next turn this page it

[32:45] seems like it's easier to go this

[32:49] way back to the last said they are they

[32:52] in on this one they submitting um

[32:55] contractual documents that she she says

[32:58] it's pending submission of threee

[32:59] contracted documents the information

[33:01] from Miss uh Miss Carver

[33:04] Miss okay um let's see the Hamilton Hill Drop

[33:13] in

[33:14] Center can can we get some information

[33:16] on this one on the hamton hill drop iner

[33:18] no no no the electricity food for you

[33:21] want M car to give us some information

[33:23] yes sure that's what we because um

[33:25] submitting the contract is submitting

[33:27] the application documents I just want to

[33:29] know where we are that because they have

[33:31] to receive matching funds also here all

[33:34] right I think what we can do is as we go

[33:36] through these and find what we need then

[33:38] we can miss as Miss Carver to um provide

[33:40] that to us and we again think if we have

[33:42] just a meeting solely committed to this

[33:45] you could stay focused on that we can

[33:46] ask her to be here the next time the

[33:48] reality with that project is site

[33:52] control you have to identify the site

[33:54] where the building is going to go that

[33:56] is for

[33:57] [Music]

[33:59] situation you can't put a building up if

[34:02] you don't have a site that was the

[34:03] reason why I want to ask what the

[34:05] document is being submit because there

[34:06] is no there is no that's I want but it

[34:10] is March 12th I mean we did give them a

[34:12] deadline of March 12 um in terms of

[34:14] coming up the they needed and my

[34:17] understanding that Metroplex is working

[34:18] with them on that so for the yes so we

[34:23] have to find out where that is so

[34:24] hopefully we can get that in the next uh

[34:27] Tuesday maybe well we won't be doing

[34:30] this again on Tuesday no you can get

[34:31] some information at least to move from

[34:34] you know Tuesday so that would be

[34:36] nice Mar 12 is R the car yes it is so

[34:40] we'll ask Miss car then we she said

[34:41] another meeting to have her here as

[34:42] these things that we need some updates

[34:44] on and meet in short

[34:48] order is there more questions about the

[34:52] call all right on page

[34:55] 10 the hand hill art center is uh

[34:59] currently in

[35:02] contract in

[35:04] contract

[35:05] Center Coco house is pending their

[35:10] contract the Boys and Girls

[35:14] Club is let's make sure it's the right

[35:16] one Yep they're in contract

[35:19] MH why WCA

[35:23] is on this sheet okay needs the critical

[35:28] needs is the first one and that one's in

[35:31] contract and then the second one is the

[35:34] Harbor House on your paper on the one

[35:37] where it says uh pending submission it

[35:39] says ym but it really is the Y right and

[35:42] their ask is for

[35:44] $750,000 but as I recall didn't they

[35:47] come and ask for additional funding yes one point it was over 1.5 million I

[35:54] think it was the additional the

[35:55] discussions are still still when they're

[35:57] looking for arpa funding there may be

[36:00] other options with the overall funding

[36:03] of the rehab of that

[36:05] building so are you saying they don't

[36:08] they're not now asking for the

[36:09] additional 1.5 they're asking for it but

[36:11] I'm just saying that they're we don't we

[36:13] don't have it they're other looking at

[36:15] other scenarios and it's still

[36:18] finalizing what the exact numbers are

[36:20] going to be so they're going to be held

[36:22] to the same standard as everyone else in

[36:23] terms of meeting their

[36:25] contingency well that up the city

[36:27] council I'm trying to line up the

[36:29] funding for the project as a

[36:34] whole I think we need to hold everyone on the timeline because we have

[36:38] been backward to extend timeline unless

[36:42] ask you for a favor no no backward to extend these over and

[36:48] over I think it was not favorable when

[36:50] we extend it extend it and now we're

[36:52] asking at this point in time to extend

[36:54] it uh well you know I I have we got to

[36:57] be careful okay what we doing go ahead M

[37:00] um it's cut off a little bit on this on

[37:02] this sheet but are they one of the ones

[37:04] that we had the March 12th as a um we

[37:06] did not approve giving them more than

[37:09] the

[37:09] 750,000 no we did not they came but they

[37:12] did not ask we did not approve

[37:15] but I know there was more than one that

[37:18] had the 312 Harbor House is right here

[37:20] oh you trying to see what this is way up

[37:21] there um pending City for more funding

[37:24] requests yeah of 1.5 million that's what

[37:27] that said okay so but it didn't have a

[37:29] March 12th deadline or anything like

[37:31] that on this particular project I don't

[37:34] think

[37:36] so yes everyone of them I think they did

[37:41] oh okay well then um so so they're not

[37:45] asking us for the 1.5 anymore mayor

[37:47] you're oh yes they are oh yes they

[37:50] are okay I think they might be asking

[37:54] for a little bit

[37:55] more

[37:59] wellow we consider them we to have to

[38:01] consider other people that need short

[38:03] Falls wouldn't

[38:04] we we don't have any we don't have money

[38:07] anywhere we don't yeah we don't we have

[38:10] about $50,000 as well some of these

[38:13] agency needs to go to look at L other um

[38:16] opportunity for

[38:18] funding okay um so we're that was so

[38:22] that was a 750 and so we have any any

[38:25] more questions regarding that one

[38:28] I'm sorry I'm talking

[38:30] myself her inhabitat for Humanity is

[38:33] currently in

[38:37] contract still on page

[38:41] 10 and and scap um is in contract and as

[38:46] we recall we uh allow them an

[38:48] opportunity to repurpose the

[38:51] fundings Bethesda house is for $200,000

[38:56] currently in contract but they did come

[38:58] and ask for an additional I believe it

[39:00] was

[39:01] 200,000 to they up that to 300

[39:06] 400 yes I think up four Yes somewhere

[39:11] there

[39:12] yes not that's on top of the 200 that's

[39:16] correct oh four more mhm well I guess

[39:20] our answer to everybody is we don't have

[39:21] the money we only have

[39:23] $50,000 you can each have 10

[39:28] um so we did the Harbor House let's see

[39:32] Center bethesa

[39:37] house so they're asking for additional 400,000 you said

[39:42] mayor I I'll note it that's in the

[39:45] document yes I think is that the number

[39:47] yeah here yes it's

[39:50] $400,000

[39:52] okay we'll make not of that we leave on

[39:54] top of the 200 right

[39:57] extra

[39:58] 400,000 and yes Mr Williams I I think

[40:01] it's worth noting that a lot of these

[40:03] projects found that hey they can

[40:04] increase their capacity with additional

[40:06] funds so I think we and trying to repeat

[40:09] what uh councilman F would say is it's

[40:12] appreciating or uh not short sighting

[40:15] the good with the great so I think with

[40:17] the money we currently allotted we've

[40:18] done a lot of good within the community

[40:20] and I think as people are trying to

[40:22] expand to do more I think we're

[40:23] recognizing in the closing months of

[40:26] these allotments that essentially just

[40:28] the money is not available so I would

[40:30] like it for us to stay presently aware

[40:33] of We contractually There are projects

[40:36] that are well positioned to do a lot of

[40:38] good in the community and I think we

[40:40] should remain focused on that as we

[40:42] since you're having to tell certain

[40:43] projects there's no additional funds out

[40:45] there at this present

[40:47] [Music]

[40:50] time their project costs increased I

[40:52] think is what they're saying in their

[40:53] letters construction costs got higher

[40:56] than they expected by $400,000 my

[40:58] question would be to everyone that's

[41:00] asking for more money is this the only

[41:02] place you're

[41:03] coming if you have an additional let's

[41:06] say 400,000 are you just coming straight

[41:08] to to looking for the arbor funds or you

[41:11] looking for money other places because

[41:12] we can't be you know there there should

[41:14] be that diversity of looking for

[41:17] funds absolutely we should not be the

[41:20] only source of funding for for projects

[41:22] they need to go out and seek additional

[41:24] funding other agencies other

[41:26] municipality the county has funding also

[41:29] that they can tap into I mean I can't

[41:31] speak for all these agencies but I would

[41:32] think that their development staff their

[41:35] executive directors I mean just from my

[41:37] past experience working that they

[41:40] probably are looking for all sources and

[41:43] can I'm sorry I I do want to say I think

[41:46] when Miss Carver was here with one of

[41:48] the weeks that she was here I was

[41:50] heartened to hear that our office is

[41:53] also providing technical assistance to some of the agencies which I was

[41:58] really glad to hear that um you know

[42:01] they will use their expertise as well to

[42:03] talk to the agencies um but it might be

[42:06] worthwhile for you know us to host

[42:08] something at some point where we talk

[42:10] about diversify funding and sources that

[42:14] are available for nonprofits to be able

[42:17] to seek funding I mean that kind of

[42:19] thing but I I was thrilled that Miss

[42:21] Carver mentioned that um they are giving

[42:25] that kind of Technic assistance to our

[42:27] agencies I think the department of

[42:29] development has done that pretty

[42:30] consistently and especially around cdbg

[42:32] so I think that this is just just

[42:34] expanding it because it's more money and

[42:36] so we're just offering that so that's

[42:38] something that we have done before and

[42:41] talk about that they do have two two

[42:42] training schedule this month

[42:45] yes yeah wey on

[42:48] thata focus on cdbg oh the C then within

[42:54] cdbg you get people to look at other

[42:56] options that be out there for the need

[42:59] or project that they're trying to do or

[43:01] undertake yeah um all right so

[43:09] the on page 11 now the top of page 11

[43:12] the art center and theater connec doing

[43:14] business as PS as you recall they put

[43:17] they the the money that we allocated

[43:20] they submitted uh what they submitted

[43:22] was prior to the um actual Grant and so

[43:25] therefore res sended those funds however

[43:28] now we're now getting a

[43:32] letter did everybody get a copy of it's

[43:35] in your packet

[43:36] yeah okay so now they're asking that we

[43:40] uh we allocate the funds I guess based

[43:41] on what we've done with other groups and

[43:45] we and you know you took the money but

[43:46] then reallocated it to the same

[43:49] organization but for a different youth

[43:51] they're asking for the same

[43:53] consideration I would support that um

[43:56] that ask um because the you know it's

[44:00] their roof it's it's obviously giving

[44:02] them major problems and given what

[44:06] Proctors contributes to the economic

[44:08] development um of the city I thought it

[44:12] was a pretty valid um change of use I

[44:14] guess I don't know correct term but we

[44:17] have done it for some other

[44:19] organizations um in terms of changing

[44:22] what the original proposal was so I

[44:24] would support it I don't know what the

[44:26] rest of you

[44:28] feel uh I'm not opposed oh go ahead Mr

[44:31] where is that

[44:33] 76,000 in the 50 spend we haven't used

[44:37] it no so everything what is left is only

[44:41] what's been unallocated everything that

[44:43] you're seeing before you is considered

[44:44] an allocation so the 76,000 is not

[44:48] outfit so would be added to the right

[44:52] now the 50 okay it was rescinded and

[44:54] back into the bucket MH but we spend it

[44:56] out we only have

[44:59] $50,000 something some there's not even

[45:02] 76 so it's not 76 and wait and so the Returned money from the Kanas also

[45:08] mayor um went

[45:10] back I don't know that I don't know that

[45:15] necessarily did we resend the the they

[45:18] back themselves they did the project

[45:21] without our money right we looked at it

[45:24] internally not the 10 hous but took some

[45:27] amount of money could have the

[45:30] carpenters and City Crews build some

[45:32] picnic tables either for Parks or some

[45:35] of the other locations that they had

[45:38] uh thought they wereas program so let's

[45:42] just see if because um Mr B provided us

[45:46] with all these so let's just see if it's

[45:48] um on the analysis that

[45:52] he what we um what we need to do is to

[45:55] look at um Kanas and resend this money

[45:58] and keep it into the city because since

[46:00] the city is going to be doing the work

[46:02] we just reallocate it back to city that

[46:05] remove it officially from this I don't

[46:08] know if it's been pulled back or not we

[46:09] looked at but we wouldn't need the full

[46:11] 10,000

[46:13] yeah yeah it's in it's it's in here is

[46:16] the although the money is here yeah it's

[46:19] in but we send it no we they said we

[46:22] could have it back yes right but did we didn't do anything not do anything

[46:26] formal yet so we need to do a formal um

[46:28] amendment to this resolution to resend

[46:30] this money and and pull it back into the city bu um so I'm sorry mayor

[46:36] you said that the city is going to build

[46:37] these picnic benches I said we could

[46:40] that's part of that is the Staffing in

[46:44] January and February slower is the

[46:48] weather starts to warm up we may not

[46:50] have staff have the free time they're

[46:53] going to have other projects that they

[46:54] have to get P from but again if the

[46:56] council want to do that we could uh what

[47:00] they how many picking tables were they

[47:01] looking to build 36 I don't know what

[47:04] those sites are so we could look at

[47:08] putting those together and identifying

[47:10] sites where they would go either uh some

[47:13] of these pre-identified organizations

[47:15] are within the central

[47:17] park within the park System including

[47:20] Central

[47:22] Park yeah you I don't know if they

[47:24] decided where they wanted them

[47:26] um with you um and the other thing is is

[47:29] it because we would do it is it really

[47:32] going to cost 10,000 because we have

[47:34] larger capacity to buy materials Etc

[47:37] what I would saying is we only need the

[47:38] cost for the materials okay and I don't

[47:42] know and this is that is that one of the

[47:45] areas when they did these costs Lumber

[47:48] was one of the things where it went up

[47:50] dramatically during Co so

[47:54] that

[47:56] where say normally it would been 2500

[47:58] bucks is it 5,000 to covered or how many

[48:01] do we actually need or want to build

[48:08] right so we have to do the resolution to

[48:13] [Music]

[48:15] um all right um hold on so um just a

[48:20] comment on the practice letter uhuh I I

[48:23] don't I don't have an issue um funding

[48:25] 70,000 77,000 because the project is

[48:30] $255,000 and they're going to be um

[48:32] fronting all the additional money they

[48:35] did submit an application to us for

[48:37] 76,000 now we resend it because of the

[48:41] they paid for the work already

[48:45] so my suggestion is that we should hold

[48:48] this and see if we have additional

[48:50] funding that is coming back in that we

[48:51] might have to resend and then make this

[48:54] allocation I just lay that on the table

[48:57] okay and we should just also make sure

[48:59] that it's a cost that can be covered by

[49:01] arbra we just have to make sure that we

[49:03] definitely have to make sure that I bet

[49:05] it is because I'm not going to bet I'm

[49:07] going to read it up just in terms of

[49:08] what the original guidelines were this

[49:11] one not getting any money

[49:13] from I think this one really fit you get

[49:15] B at something oh I like what are you

[49:18] talking about this

[49:21] sorry going to have some more okay so um

[49:24] I agree with that but again we want to

[49:26] make sure that this is an appropriate

[49:28] use of the funds and we don't have any

[49:30] problems of getting money clawed back Mr

[49:33] Williams you a question yes or um I had

[49:36] a question a comment so to the Proctors

[49:38] I think you're asking where each council

[49:39] member are kind of hinted that I I agree

[49:43] and I think based on the context of how

[49:45] we reevaluate other projects I think the

[49:47] only difference is just as of now we

[49:48] only have the 50,000 but I I would be in

[49:50] agreement with reevaluating it later or

[49:54] um committing to 50 ,000 that we do have

[49:56] now um but then secondarily I know we're

[49:59] talking about Kus and just wanting to

[50:01] add two comments at once um I think part

[50:03] of the selling point for me or what I

[50:05] appreciated with the project was that it

[50:07] was youth driven so the only thing I

[50:09] would ask as mayor would it be

[50:10] appropriate for the uh Carpenters to

[50:13] partner with one of our local

[50:15] construction agencies and I think 36 is

[50:17] a big number especially if Lumber is

[50:19] going up but I think even if we scaled

[50:20] it down I think just delivering on some

[50:23] would be a nice win especially for our

[50:25] parks yeah it's possible to make

[50:27] something work yeah we should probably

[50:30] add it to the rebuilding of the Mount

[50:32] Pleasant welcomeing

[50:34] s

[50:35] oh you're not in off

[50:38] trouble exactly you really want to go

[50:41] down that

[50:46] road you can talk to L about that t

[50:48] we're not talking

[50:50] about all

[50:52] right okay okay oh

[50:56] speaking of Mount Pleasant so Father Jim

[50:58] had put in for uh the kids in Mount

[51:00] Pleasant to have $50,000 allocated for

[51:03] his basketball court up in that up on

[51:05] Pearl Street so I'm putting that out

[51:08] there because he did resend a letter to

[51:10] us in

[51:11] uh oh to reconsider his application in

[51:15] SE October of last year um to reconsider

[51:19] his his uh original application yes

[51:23] fully name of Jesus on the church

[51:25] parking lot not not a park right right

[51:28] not right no the little it's triang in

[51:33] front of the church there's a little

[51:36] island or kind of there and what his

[51:39] proposal was apparently kids throw

[51:43] footballs out there play baseball

[51:46] whatever and his suggestion was to put a

[51:50] basketball poop up the backboard that

[51:54] EXC the church would help maintain it

[51:58] monitor it and uh police it is this city

[52:01] own property that we're talking about

[52:03] yes main Wing in Pearl streets

[52:06] yeah I can't pick picture EXA so it's so

[52:11] it's a city owned property and he wants

[52:12] to put up a hoop essentially and paid it

[52:15] what

[52:17] no he's an intricate part of that

[52:20] neighborhood in Mount Pleasant with a f

[52:22] Pantry no no no I'm I'm just saying and

[52:24] that's that's why he still keeps

[52:25] advocating for it for the kids um now my

[52:28] daughter lives right there on Pearl so

[52:30] I'm very familiar with with that whole

[52:32] little section there and and what the

[52:34] pastor Jim Father Jim does over there

[52:36] but I don't know what it looks like but

[52:38] um you know in a city owned property I

[52:40] think we have to take that in

[52:41] consideration if that's I just don't I

[52:44] can't picture it so I can't really speak

[52:45] to I just want to bring that forward

[52:48] again that he's consistently

[52:50] sent application and also if the city is

[52:53] doing major other projects it's if this

[52:56] is just Paving okay is it is it

[52:58] something that we could just do without

[53:01] striping make par it probably has some

[53:04] striping for right the same like they're

[53:06] doing on other Parks is there something

[53:07] that we could do in addition to when

[53:09] we're already doing other Parks it could

[53:11] be but they put it in application

[53:13] originally and then asked us to to look

[53:15] at it again we have to take into conf we

[53:17] have the park and tent Avenue con fre um

[53:20] or chart par and then we have the one at

[53:23] um kation Drive

[53:25] so this are all part that can be used

[53:27] because we have spent a lot of money but

[53:29] upward of40 $50,000 to outfit um those

[53:33] par and the last one was a Orchard Park

[53:35] a lot of money was spent there and all

[53:37] these equipments are in there so you can

[53:40] go there and participate and you know

[53:42] enjoy um those

[53:47] equipments so there was oh there it is

[53:49] holding

[53:51] in so they are facility that they can

[53:54] use in M pleas

[53:57] just putting for if it's something I I

[54:00] don't know that I I'd have to see it

[54:01] because it's hard to speak to something

[54:03] you can't see if it's something that I'm

[54:05] just concerned if about sometimes we see

[54:07] these basketball court hoops and there

[54:09] they end up being in the right away and

[54:10] all of that so I'd have to like kind of

[54:12] see what that looked like um and just

[54:16] bring forward on his behalf for the kids

[54:19] in Mount F that's what he told me

[54:21] today as Mr M said there are a number of

[54:24] parks there but it's certainly

[54:25] consideration I would like to actually

[54:27] um to be able to see it and make sure

[54:29] it's not in the right way because

[54:31] sometimes we do have that with

[54:32] basketball hoops and we now well I won't

[54:35] mention because we've had people bring

[54:37] you know do other facilities that

[54:39] weren't publ were weren't under the

[54:41] city's control and then it was built

[54:43] anyway so we do need to take a look at

[54:45] that The Stockade

[54:50] Association um so that was money that we

[54:52] originally uh assigned to the stock

[54:55] Association then we sended the pro we

[54:57] send it to the because the city was

[54:58] doing the project and see how much we've

[55:02] spent on that

[55:08] one I don't know it's showing

[55:15] here

[55:18] okay

[55:21] uh man I thought that there was some

[55:23] work done there and I see that I don't

[55:24] see any

[55:25] [Music]

[55:26] there was some work done on the outside

[55:29] to

[55:30] uh help secure the building but I don't

[55:35] know what the so are they are they

[55:37] calling it the North Street uh Pump

[55:39] Station now as opposed to stock

[55:41] association yes well that's what the

[55:43] building was they were going to do it

[55:46] then they've expended

[55:48] $177,000 so far and that makes sense

[55:52] it's in repair for Windows and okay P so

[55:56] that project is still moving forward to

[55:58] that City now well it's

[56:02] still come the final utilization of the

[56:05] building so you go in there there there

[56:08] not a floor you know you have a a well

[56:10] that drops down to the lower level so

[56:14] what do they want to do with it you want

[56:15] to put a floor across it you want to use

[56:17] it as a some type of community

[56:20] room public bathrooms Visitor

[56:23] Center

[56:26] okay and anything about the basic

[56:30] repairs of that building I don't believe

[56:32] this allocation is going to be enough to

[56:35] cover all the expenses

[56:39] okay so you're U you're saying what the neighborhood is asked for you

[56:44] don't think you the funding bets

[56:46] allocated going that some of the ask is

[56:49] still a little bit vague so it's to

[56:51] finalize that to come back to the

[56:53] council the counc approve it and then we

[56:56] actually move forward

[56:59] to either do some of the work in house

[57:01] some More's going to have to be bit out

[57:04] and a contractor brought in to do the

[57:06] work so I'm going to put down for the

[57:08] stock Association that we're going to we

[57:10] need that I thought they sent that

[57:12] several times but you can ask

[57:16] again

[57:19] see I think in terms of the um the

[57:21] allocation so far that is we've all

[57:24] covers everything um we did get an

[57:29] additional all of us got a letter from

[57:31] the Y

[57:34] MCA uh Black and Latino achiev

[57:37] program asking for

[57:40] $100,000 uh but I think that what we've

[57:42] said so far is that right now there's there's no money out there plus

[57:46] it was a new plus well that one was

[57:48] Brett new H that was a new ask so the

[57:52] event so we probably don't want to go

[57:53] down there right I'm sor sorry which one

[57:55] I said so was the events that are a new

[57:56] ask so we I don't think we can use that

[57:58] as a a saying someone that this is a new

[58:01] ask we just really don't have the money

[58:03] right now there just isn't money there

[58:06] um and if we well that's always been a

[58:10] concern for me if we if we open the door

[58:12] which Mr Farley did ask us to open the

[58:13] door again a year several months back

[58:16] and we said we weren't doing that in

[58:17] terms of um entertaining um new

[58:19] applications although we have done that

[58:22] in a way so

[58:26] um the letter was to you mayor did you

[58:28] want to respond to

[58:30] them in terms of this it's what was to

[58:34] both of us let me just they all over our

[58:38] you it's up to the city council as to

[58:41] what you

[58:43] do well at this point in time I think

[58:45] our response is currently we don't have

[58:47] any um additional funding um but we have

[58:50] to really consider even if we did were

[58:52] we willing to consider it that we need

[58:54] to be really open and honest about that

[58:56] there's no point in saying it's not

[58:57] because we have money and then we get

[58:58] money back and then what so we have to

[59:01] be open and honest about whether or not

[59:03] this we're um going to be entertaining

[59:06] other

[59:16] applications no opinion well of course I

[59:19] T well I mean I mean there were both of

[59:25] uh original applications obviously no

[59:28] one's not too many have thought that

[59:30] there wouldd be money resend it and and

[59:32] come back for an ask on there should I

[59:35] mean should we put that out there if we

[59:37] do get extra money you know is there

[59:39] anyone put an original application but

[59:41] no one seems to be knocking our door

[59:42] down you know as far as original on so I

[59:46] guess whatever comes in if there's any

[59:48] money left we'd have to

[59:50] consider because we do have a lot of

[59:52] applications that from the original list

[59:55] which I'm looking at that never made the

[59:58] first

[59:59] cut so what do you

[1:00:01] say I don't know I don't have an

[1:00:05] answer Mr Williams well I think the

[1:00:08] difficult answer is we we can't

[1:00:09] entertain any new projects and I think

[1:00:11] it's unfortunate but I think if we look

[1:00:14] at the process it was for the planning

[1:00:15] and development office to get to this

[1:00:17] stance it is a considerable lift and I

[1:00:19] appreciate the Investments that Miss

[1:00:21] Carver and her team has done to

[1:00:23] continuously give us up stes that is not

[1:00:25] without the effort and that's in

[1:00:27] addition to the work that they're doing

[1:00:28] now uh so definitely I want to give her

[1:00:30] office and the mayor kudos for getting

[1:00:33] us to this point now um but

[1:00:36] unfortunately should we even have the

[1:00:37] money are they and a ready status to be

[1:00:40] able to proceive with contracts and are

[1:00:42] they in a geared of stance and I don't

[1:00:44] want to soon know um what to miss

[1:00:46] porterfield's question do you want to

[1:00:48] give that false hope uh so I think there

[1:00:51] was conversations previously about any

[1:00:53] unallocated money going to address the

[1:00:56] issues with uh not having to proceive

[1:00:58] with bonds and I think that's an

[1:01:00] appropriate measure uh again we did make

[1:01:03] considerations for projects that submit

[1:01:05] projects or that didn't submit

[1:01:07] applications I.E the um U multipurpose

[1:01:11] uh Arena and I I can very much

[1:01:13] confidently say that if anyone ask me in

[1:01:15] the in the community I think that is a

[1:01:16] similarly use if not better use than the

[1:01:19] Aquatic Center so that's how I can

[1:01:21] justify it but for a new project I fear

[1:01:24] having to reopen that whole pipeline

[1:01:27] because unfortunately we'd be doing it

[1:01:28] for one or two projects and then so I

[1:01:31] truly would not want to to open our

[1:01:33] Council up to just it would be a hard no

[1:01:36] for a lot of people and I think that

[1:01:38] would put us in in a very uh a

[1:01:40] precarious

[1:01:44] situation Mr V well I think we should

[1:01:47] take a look at you know projects that

[1:01:49] are all in good standing and the money

[1:01:52] that's left over and then look at those

[1:01:54] project projects and maybe we we'll

[1:01:55] allocate it to those agencies that that

[1:01:58] priorities that we select are in those

[1:02:01] areas that are important to our communy

[1:02:03] and maybe offer them opportunities to

[1:02:06] expand their application and

[1:02:07] [Music]

[1:02:12] program

[1:02:14] yes I I think

[1:02:16] also we can also you know encourage

[1:02:19] people to go to those

[1:02:20] cdbg meetings that are coming up as well

[1:02:24] and consider putting in applications for

[1:02:26] cdbg and we can also encourage people to

[1:02:28] look at other funding

[1:02:29] sources no yeah no I I know I you know I

[1:02:33] mean I think that's I think that we

[1:02:34] really have to be honest with the people

[1:02:36] that come to us for money and and make

[1:02:38] some of those suggestions um because we

[1:02:40] don't have a a

[1:02:42] never-ending um pool of money we simply

[1:02:45] do not so I think we're doing them a

[1:02:47] disservice when we continually um if

[1:02:50] we're not at least asking them you know

[1:02:53] are there other ways or

[1:02:56] um something Mr mudaron brought up

[1:02:58] before if there's way that they can

[1:02:59] combine the services that they do I

[1:03:02] don't think we're you know that's going

[1:03:04] to matter at this point in time but um

[1:03:06] sticking with the YWCA what MCA rather

[1:03:10] what becomes our response to them

[1:03:12] because they did write a letter suggest

[1:03:14] asking and um if we're not even going to

[1:03:17] be entertaining uh additional

[1:03:19] applications I think we should just be

[1:03:20] up front and let them know that and

[1:03:22] respond to that and and and uh and close

[1:03:25] that door as opposed to letting them

[1:03:28] think that could

[1:03:29] have and saying there's no there's no

[1:03:32] funding funding left but you know we're

[1:03:34] looking leaves the door open in my

[1:03:36] opinion to that oh if we get funding

[1:03:38] maybe we'll look at your application and

[1:03:40] I don't think that's what I'm

[1:03:41] hearing Mr yes um we the last time we

[1:03:46] discussed I did discuss this the last

[1:03:48] have to kind of put some suggestion out

[1:03:50] there last year we did um fund um

[1:03:53] through the budget um don't the exact

[1:03:56] number but the youth program through the

[1:03:58] school 150,000 and in this year budget

[1:04:01] we have another $150,000 allocated so is

[1:04:05] a school going to use all that money and

[1:04:07] can we have them partner with the city

[1:04:09] and the school to kind of tap in so what

[1:04:11] they're doing the school and the city to

[1:04:13] kind of work together rather than us

[1:04:15] have a pocket there and a pocket there

[1:04:17] just make sense so that's something I'm

[1:04:19] going to tr again and to bring them to

[1:04:21] the table and then discuss because I'm

[1:04:22] sure their money from last year to they

[1:04:24] spend this year we can we bring them

[1:04:28] in and let them be a

[1:04:32] partner you program with the youth

[1:04:35] employment I thought that was our summer

[1:04:37] you

[1:04:38] know so that's something we are not us I

[1:04:42] don't think we're going to be using all

[1:04:43] that money we

[1:04:47] could well it was basically all used

[1:04:50] whatever was allocated in the 23 budget

[1:04:53] and then and again if you don't use it

[1:04:56] it's just rolled into the final numbers

[1:04:58] going forward it's not like it's sitting

[1:05:00] there in a separate pot yeah I I think

[1:05:02] we we need to bring them in and let

[1:05:04] them have a discussion bring I'm sorry

[1:05:08] YCA cuz I think they already partner

[1:05:11] with the school district on the

[1:05:12] blacktino aiers program but yeah yeah

[1:05:16] they already partner with the school

[1:05:18] district right at this money $5,000 is

[1:05:21] for program through the school

[1:05:25] it doesn't say that's a question I don't

[1:05:27] know what it's for 100,000 isn't it

[1:05:30] working with the school directly but

[1:05:32] it's recruit kids to work really for the

[1:05:36] city and the parks and activities during

[1:05:38] the

[1:05:40] summer so with this 100,000 I didn't I

[1:05:43] for me it wasn't clear exactly what they

[1:05:45] wanted they said they just wanted

[1:05:46] programmatically but there I didn't see

[1:05:48] a budget attached and I don't know

[1:05:50] exactly what the use

[1:05:52] was but you that's pretty it's kind of

[1:05:55] General so that's I'm saying we need we

[1:05:58] need to bring them in and to kind of you

[1:05:59] know sit to the table and talk about

[1:06:01] this program with the Department of

[1:06:02] development with the mayor's office and

[1:06:04] see if they can be separate from the s

[1:06:06] yes separate separate so is that a

[1:06:09] responsibility of ours or is that I'm

[1:06:11] not

[1:06:14] sure it's all our

[1:06:17] responsibility but I mean the 150 that's

[1:06:19] in the budget is for summer youth

[1:06:21] employment that hire those those

[1:06:23] students you say 50 or50 150 that's not

[1:06:26] the YMCA that is the money that the city

[1:06:29] uses to hire youth to work in our Parks

[1:06:32] so that's how we maintain our our

[1:06:35] programs that we're doing in the parks

[1:06:37] in the summer so let's not think about

[1:06:39] that 150 this 100 in terms of this

[1:06:43] program it is very generic in the letter

[1:06:46] uh in terms of what are they asking for

[1:06:48] but it would be to support the actual

[1:06:50] program itself which provides a you know

[1:06:53] I mean provides all sorts of stuff but

[1:06:55] this it's a great program yeah it is

[1:06:57] it's outstanding I can't I can't

[1:06:58] disagree with that um we're going to

[1:07:01] need lifeguards yeah no we we can't

[1:07:03] touch that 150 for this program I guess

[1:07:06] all those things all those things to add

[1:07:08] up this year for next year it's not only

[1:07:10] in the Parks or somewhere else but we

[1:07:14] canot widen the scope of um the youth

[1:07:17] employment so what you saying oh add

[1:07:20] $100,000 to what we already put into the

[1:07:22] 150 I'd be all in favor of that but I'm

[1:07:25] just saying um I I just don't want to

[1:07:28] combine I don't want to confuse that

[1:07:30] this ask is similar to our Summer Youth

[1:07:32] Employment Program no no no I'm not

[1:07:34] saying we need to find out bring them to

[1:07:36] the table and find out what what they're

[1:07:37] trying to do is it similar to what is

[1:07:39] happening on this program we don't know

[1:07:42] it's not it's not specified in that I

[1:07:45] was on the reworking the numbers for the

[1:07:48] new swimming pool and the pools during

[1:07:51] the summer with the boys and girls club

[1:07:53] we don't hire the those directly we

[1:07:55] contract Boys and Girls Club to manage

[1:07:58] those facilities think it's the same

[1:08:01] thing John kids whether they're yeah

[1:08:03] working for the city or working for the

[1:08:04] boys and girls out there but it's just

[1:08:07] how you actually match up the numbers

[1:08:09] yeah and the only reason that I'm coming

[1:08:12] back at this is because I do think

[1:08:14] listening to what um Miss Porterfield

[1:08:16] said we don't want to lead them down the

[1:08:18] track of thinking that we have $100,000

[1:08:21] that we could give to them so bringing

[1:08:23] them in to describe the program I mean

[1:08:25] it's an awesome program um but I don't

[1:08:28] think that we have money to give to them

[1:08:30] but if you wanted just learned about the

[1:08:32] program sure

[1:08:34] but I think that's what I heard you

[1:08:36] saying right that you didn't want to

[1:08:38] give you false hope I do not um and Mr

[1:08:41] yes yeah I don't think it it will hard

[1:08:43] because we're going to bring in to other

[1:08:44] groups to discuss about the miracle how

[1:08:46] we follow with the miracle say is it

[1:08:48] something totally true we are yeah but

[1:08:50] that's but it's also very different that

[1:08:51] money is already there yeah so that's

[1:08:54] very different that those aren't apples

[1:08:55] and apples those are apples and that way

[1:08:57] we able to understand the program more

[1:08:59] and we know exactly what they going be

[1:09:01] doing so we decided to fund them down

[1:09:04] the road we know exactly uh why we're

[1:09:06] funding them um I would suggest that we

[1:09:09] ask for them to provide something a

[1:09:10] little bit more in writing um and then

[1:09:14] also

[1:09:16] is I don't know where their hous

[1:09:18] connected does anybody know that

[1:09:19] disconnected YMCA the YMCA yeah they are

[1:09:22] YMCA so is that is cdbg a place that

[1:09:26] they could also ask for this funding I I

[1:09:29] believe so but it's been years since

[1:09:30] I've applied for cdbg funding so I can't

[1:09:33] remember the parameters tell everybody

[1:09:35] go funding but um I do would you have

[1:09:39] that kind of specific

[1:09:42] idea well I would say generically they

[1:09:45] can it always gets down to the specific

[1:09:47] details and which category it's coming

[1:09:49] out so some things you might sit here

[1:09:53] and say oh yes would qualify when we

[1:09:54] actually do the application and say oh

[1:09:56] no it's not or we reach the cap yes

[1:09:59] other

[1:10:00] program four categories right so Mr M

[1:10:03] you you you know you really talk about

[1:10:05] I'm good at just submit more documents

[1:10:07] or makeing them in person that's fine I think way is okay with me but I just

[1:10:11] need to know more of what they're doing

[1:10:13] and the areas that going to be covered

[1:10:15] because we don't want to duplicate we

[1:10:16] have seen over years that sometimes we

[1:10:19] duplicate the service and we have talked

[1:10:21] about that over and over outcome you

[1:10:25] know so Ian we can ask them but I I um I

[1:10:29] just want to have to we have to talk

[1:10:31] about how the word it but I just want to

[1:10:32] know we just want to know more about it

[1:10:34] that there's no we're not making any

[1:10:35] commitments we have to definitely know

[1:10:37] we're not making any commitments because

[1:10:40] we'll be in the newspaper saying we made

[1:10:41] a commitment um we also need um I mean

[1:10:43] all of us including myself we'll invite

[1:10:45] them to the this um cdbg presentation

[1:10:48] for them to attend those seminars uh to

[1:10:51] equip themselves and to understand CBG

[1:10:54] program so if they're qualified they can

[1:10:56] set applications

[1:10:57] [Music]

[1:11:07] mhm Okay so we've come to the end of all

[1:11:10] the ones that we said um that we've

[1:11:13] allocated money to and we've gone over

[1:11:16] what we you know those things we need

[1:11:17] additional information from Miss Harver

[1:11:20] um or from

[1:11:22] the mayor's

[1:11:25] office as an fi um sure you were looking

[1:11:29] at we did modify the resolution so

[1:11:31] include a concern for Hunger at one

[1:11:34] point in time so it's in this package

[1:11:36] yeah langage no it always it was in some

[1:11:39] of this it wasn't in all of it it

[1:11:41] just not sorry what they're saying is

[1:11:46] that they've not been included no not

[1:11:48] been included that that's a conversation

[1:11:50] that happens

[1:11:51] with with the uh no not us it's not us

[1:11:55] that didn't include them that's not what

[1:11:57] they're saying the umbrella of the what

[1:11:58] they're saying Mr M is that when they

[1:12:00] got over to the SKC Foundation they were

[1:12:02] left

[1:12:04] out that's that's what is being said so

[1:12:07] we they we need to any conversation

[1:12:09] needs to happen with this connected

[1:12:11] foundation and also you know we'll talk

[1:12:12] to Miss Carver I think that's what my

[1:12:14] name I think that would be a good idea

[1:12:15] for Miss Carver yes I think that is what

[1:12:17] my

[1:12:18] name I will speak to miss car regarding

[1:12:21] that yes

[1:12:26] are there other things out there that um

[1:12:27] in terms of the allocations that people

[1:12:30] and we so then we'll um we'll s another

[1:12:33] meeting however but go ahead I'll any

[1:12:36] other yes Mr Williams uh just for a

[1:12:38] point of clarification it seems like

[1:12:40] there's three projects to um that are

[1:12:43] still open or that we're still uh

[1:12:46] waiting for more information um the

[1:12:48] first is the Carver Community Center um

[1:12:51] the second is the the uh empowerment SL

[1:12:55] Center and then the last is the Harbor

[1:12:57] House um so I think for myself just

[1:13:00] wanting to be clear I think we kind of

[1:13:03] hit or address this issue in a number of

[1:13:05] Fashions but again it's like

[1:13:06] entertaining new projects I think

[1:13:09] following up on what Mr manini said it

[1:13:11] was how do we bolster what's currently

[1:13:13] been allotted and then I think

[1:13:15] secondarily but also very importantly is

[1:13:18] uh evaluating positioning a lot of that

[1:13:20] money towards bondings or preventing

[1:13:23] bondings in the future but I think we're

[1:13:25] waiting for updates on those but those

[1:13:27] seem like they're the only questionable

[1:13:29] projects waiting for we still have the

[1:13:32] March 12th deadline on them as well so I

[1:13:34] would add that one to the list so the

[1:13:36] one that we were out there were Miracle

[1:13:39] oned the um Empowerment Center rash is

[1:13:42] jury jury Foundation y um there's a

[1:13:45] question about um the the identity

[1:13:48] Foundation the funding for the um

[1:13:50] accessible food $950,000

[1:14:00] [Music]

[1:14:01] um well I did mention that the Riverside

[1:14:03] Park had no plan even though there's

[1:14:05] money allocated fors it just want to

[1:14:06] make sure that's um there the Electric

[1:14:09] City Food

[1:14:12] Co-op uh Bethesda house is asking for

[1:14:15] additional

[1:14:17] $400,000 the um Proctors is asking to

[1:14:22] reallocate their money but there isn't

[1:14:24] enough money right now so we talked

[1:14:25] about revisiting that uh the Kanas

[1:14:29] return the money we have to do a

[1:14:31] resolution in order to take the money

[1:14:32] back and the mayor said that's something

[1:14:35] that we can that that is a project we

[1:14:36] can do at in house we should look at

[1:14:38] where they really we're planning on

[1:14:39] putting those and the stock Aid

[1:14:43] Association um we've spent some of that

[1:14:46] money because we we did take the money

[1:14:47] back from the stock from the we couldn't

[1:14:49] give it to the stock Aid Association

[1:14:51] because it's a city own property so the

[1:14:52] city is is taking the money back is

[1:14:54] doing the project and we do need we need

[1:14:56] to get final information from the stock

[1:14:58] a associations what the mayor is saying

[1:14:59] in terms of what they really want to do

[1:15:02] [Music]

[1:15:04] there see if I

[1:15:08] have just want to add to Mr Williams was

[1:15:11] talking just about um whatever money we

[1:15:13] can be send back Rel Ed towards projects

[1:15:16] so that we don't have to borrow I just

[1:15:17] want to highlight an example of the

[1:15:19] tennis court that we just recently

[1:15:20] awarded contract we allocated 00,000 the

[1:15:24] project is costing us about 672 th000 so

[1:15:27] there is

[1:15:28] $172,000 right here G and going forward

[1:15:31] with the city project I am more than

[1:15:34] likely most C project will go overrun so

[1:15:38] we have to consider that so kind of keep

[1:15:40] some funding here to help out s those

[1:15:42] over overs us kind of coincide about you

[1:15:46] talking I so those are two things that

[1:15:49] we need to consider

[1:15:52] seriously most of these project if not

[1:15:55] I'll will overrun great and let me just

[1:15:58] also say we should not always be the

[1:16:00] people that are getting giving all for

[1:16:01] the overruns I'm going to repeat that

[1:16:02] over and over again there needs to be

[1:16:04] other places where they're getting funds

[1:16:05] getting money for their overruns no I'm

[1:16:07] talking about directly City oh just city

[1:16:11] project talking about resending the

[1:16:14] money bring it back keep it the house

[1:16:15] and look at the city project where we're

[1:16:17] getting um these project needs to get

[1:16:19] done and able to fund if they overalls

[1:16:22] we need to fund them

[1:16:25] those as well in terms of the

[1:16:27] projects can either go through the

[1:16:29] budget which I see you have your I have

[1:16:31] everything I

[1:16:33] know um but I mean we could easily

[1:16:35] probably just get all this I think

[1:16:36] that's really smart to use the money

[1:16:38] towards the city projects no and this is

[1:16:40] a prime example I mean $500,000 we were

[1:16:43] saying back when we awarded this that

[1:16:45] 500,000 might be you know the ball fig

[1:16:49] but 172,000 but just but def that's a

[1:16:53] good example because what Mr Wallen has

[1:16:55] said is that the USA is going to be

[1:16:57] looking for that additional funding and

[1:16:59] that's what we want to see yeah that we

[1:17:00] don't come back and say how we have to

[1:17:02] fund it so that's what we want to see

[1:17:04] that we allocated this it's more so this

[1:17:06] group that really wants the money is

[1:17:08] going to try it's trying to figure out

[1:17:09] how to get the additional fund that as

[1:17:11] we said at the last meeting well this is the only lucky

[1:17:14] project well we have to encourage

[1:17:17] projects to be more like

[1:17:19] that think the umor I think the comment

[1:17:23] just looking at the the Empowerment

[1:17:25] Center dur

[1:17:26] Foundation um I I just would question

[1:17:29] the wisdom of spending 100 I'm $875 for

[1:17:32] building rehab and 200,000 for training

[1:17:36] um Workforce Development I think is at a

[1:17:39] critical juncture in our communities

[1:17:41] especially for those in disadvantaged

[1:17:43] communities and just rebuilding or

[1:17:45] building a new program $200,000 left a

[1:17:49] program will maybe serve 20 youth mhm

[1:17:52] young people

[1:17:53] and I can you know and and all you know

[1:17:56] transparency I work at a job training

[1:17:57] agency and I see the challenges our

[1:17:59] young people have and trying to get them

[1:18:00] into the

[1:18:01] workforce it it's it's difficult and

[1:18:04] challenging so I would just question the

[1:18:06] wisdom of spending this much money on a

[1:18:08] building and then 200 on the actual

[1:18:11] program it takes significant effort to

[1:18:13] get these young people in a good

[1:18:15] direction a positive direction get them

[1:18:16] in the workforce a significant amount of

[1:18:19] programming and support um it's not just

[1:18:21] showing up and going for train is

[1:18:23] helping them with housing mental health

[1:18:24] issu subst issues all that wraparound

[1:18:27] services Albany the city of ALB is

[1:18:29] dealing with that we're dealing with

[1:18:31] that so I would just you know my comment

[1:18:33] would be maybe to re look at that and and maybe invest in in what some

[1:18:37] folks that are currently doing that and

[1:18:39] help them build those Community Support

[1:18:41] so these young people can be successful

[1:18:43] so let me just lend a little

[1:18:44] clarification to the Empowerment Center

[1:18:47] the empowerment said the money was was

[1:18:48] not just for youth it was going to be to

[1:18:51] help mwbe and training that is what that

[1:18:53] was for within the um within Hamilton

[1:18:56] Hill Neighborhood where many people

[1:18:59] don't get on the projects that are there

[1:19:01] so that is what the Empowerment Center

[1:19:02] was about it wasn't it wasn't just for

[1:19:04] youth is that what the incubator used to

[1:19:06] do was it developed for well that's gone

[1:19:10] through a lot of lifetimes it's not an

[1:19:12] incubator anymore right so that was the

[1:19:14] focus and this this particular um

[1:19:16] application actually came out of our um

[1:19:18] affirmative action office right here in

[1:19:19] the city of skincity I mean in in City

[1:19:21] Hall so that was that was not just to

[1:19:24] take Youth and train them but it was for

[1:19:25] mwbe and um and to make sure that they

[1:19:29] get their skills I I believe there was

[1:19:30] also any of reading some of the emails

[1:19:32] we're getting there was also they were

[1:19:34] talking about trying to um help people

[1:19:36] to get to Public Service fire in

[1:19:39] particular so they were working with 100

[1:19:41] black men on that so they were trying to

[1:19:43] get those those the kind of things that

[1:19:44] were supposed to take place in the

[1:19:45] Empowerment Center not just um not you

[1:19:48] because quite frankly the Empowerment

[1:19:50] Center and the um youth training program

[1:19:53] came as two separate applications but

[1:19:55] then they were merged somewhere along

[1:19:57] the line so that's what's the build the

[1:19:59] build on the addresses here at the

[1:20:01] building that kind 18 Aly

[1:20:07] Street it used to be the M you remember

[1:20:10] mtap yes okay well it was map's uh final

[1:20:14] home before it closed down so this was

[1:20:17] again trying to sort of kind of

[1:20:19] replicate some of the services that map

[1:20:21] was offering which hasn't happened since

[1:20:24] make tap close that was the purpose of

[1:20:26] the Empowerment

[1:20:30] Center um the other thing that we said

[1:20:32] we would talk about at this meeting was

[1:20:34] um when we allocated the um money for

[1:20:38] the um Event Center we asked if there

[1:20:41] would be a uh could be a community

[1:20:43] benefits agreement that was agreed upon

[1:20:45] and so um I ask all of you to you know

[1:20:49] bring to the table any uh any ideas or

[1:20:51] concerns or what you'd like to see as

[1:20:53] part of that so if we could just have

[1:20:56] that discussion anyone had I I do have

[1:20:59] some things I always have to go

[1:21:01] first but so are there anyone in terms

[1:21:04] of um having an opportunity to look at

[1:21:06] Community benefits agreement anything

[1:21:07] they'd like to bring

[1:21:09] forward Mr Williams I love going first

[1:21:14] so um I in my research uh I found that

[1:21:18] it is not um improper for elected

[1:21:20] officials to um push forth uh cbas also

[1:21:25] and so I in my research found three

[1:21:27] areas that I think would would meet what

[1:21:29] I would expect um the the neighborhoods

[1:21:33] to support and how we can intentionally

[1:21:35] write in areas for them to benefit from

[1:21:36] this project moving forward so the first

[1:21:38] of which was all cves they kind of speak

[1:21:41] towards having a group of stakeholders

[1:21:43] so I'm not professing that I know every

[1:21:45] local organization in the community that

[1:21:47] would benefit from being at the table

[1:21:49] but the ones that I could remember were

[1:21:50] uh Sun uh United neighbor just obviously

[1:21:54] they're position to support the needs of

[1:21:56] our local communities uh sium SE safe Inc uh Sun SKC and the SKC City

[1:22:02] School District to serve as validating

[1:22:05] agents for incoming events and what I

[1:22:08] thought that would help identify is

[1:22:10] ensuring that events or or uh uh I guess

[1:22:13] entertainment venues that came to our

[1:22:15] community our community felt like they

[1:22:17] had the ability to Advocate similar to

[1:22:19] uh the community um policing panel and

[1:22:22] how it sits in conjunction with the

[1:22:24] scany police department to advocate for

[1:22:27] uh the neighborhood and in no way what I

[1:22:29] imagine they would have the soul power

[1:22:31] to say no um but I think positioning

[1:22:33] them to be a part of those conversations

[1:22:36] uh is is something that could Empower

[1:22:37] them and then also make them more vested

[1:22:39] in incoming events as well uh the second

[1:22:42] was um I I am not a event planner but I

[1:22:45] imagine they're going to be days uh

[1:22:47] throughout the month where there is

[1:22:49] unused or less frequent frequented uh

[1:22:52] times for events to be conducted so what

[1:22:54] I would like to see is a monthly or

[1:22:56] quarterly listing of unused time that

[1:22:59] could be offered to the community at an

[1:23:01] adjusted at an adjusted scale and then I

[1:23:03] imagine the gusi group that is a PO

[1:23:06] profit organization would want to put a a uh a limit or a threshold on that

[1:23:12] but I think that that would allow the

[1:23:13] community residents to be able to

[1:23:14] utilize that space that we are uh

[1:23:17] contributing a considerable amount of

[1:23:19] their quote unquote uh dollars from this

[1:23:21] arpa um moving forward and then lastly I I always try to identify a youth scope

[1:23:28] I would love to see two paid internships

[1:23:31] or uh it does needed amount of

[1:23:33] internships offered to our high school

[1:23:35] students per year uh specifically around

[1:23:37] like operations management or just

[1:23:39] business analy strategic operations and

[1:23:42] that way it would then create that

[1:23:43] pipeline for some of our uh very bright

[1:23:46] and talented uh individuals that attend

[1:23:48] schools in our local school district

[1:23:50] that have uh this opportunity to work

[1:23:52] closely with individuals on then we can

[1:23:55] agree that it's on an elevated level um

[1:23:57] to just see and understand that you

[1:23:59] don't have to leave this community to uh

[1:24:01] start your professional career and it

[1:24:03] might help us just Identify some some

[1:24:05] bright stars to position them and

[1:24:07] similar positions moving forward so

[1:24:08] those are my three

[1:24:12] recommendations okay so some kind of

[1:24:15] what that because I actually uh went to

[1:24:17] community members I didn't try to take

[1:24:18] it um like off from what I thought

[1:24:20] because I think it's important you know

[1:24:22] when we at the other the event I asked

[1:24:23] people at the event what would you as a

[1:24:25] community like to see so um one of the

[1:24:28] ones is currently apparently uh Union

[1:24:30] has specific times where they bring kids

[1:24:33] into skape like so that to for that to

[1:24:36] be a part of um to be a part of the and

[1:24:39] now it's not little longer at Union so

[1:24:41] for that to be a part of the community

[1:24:42] benefits agreement say make sure that stays in place my understanding is

[1:24:46] there's also skating lessons as as that

[1:24:49] are part of that so to for that to um

[1:24:51] also stay in place um he already talked

[1:24:55] about sliding

[1:24:57] scales and um then uh this individual

[1:25:01] and asked about having incorporating an

[1:25:04] art gallery within the arena just having

[1:25:07] art from local artists or whatever and

[1:25:09] having it not not painted on the walls

[1:25:12] Mis don't misunderstand but local

[1:25:13] changing exhibits yeah changing exhibits

[1:25:16] like within the arena and that's

[1:25:17] something people can enjoy when they

[1:25:18] come um then they said Hall of Fame

[1:25:21] induction I guess they just having that

[1:25:24] there and um but I think soccer is one

[1:25:27] of the things that we're going to play

[1:25:27] that's on my list um so a person who

[1:25:31] cares about the walkability of skincity

[1:25:33] wants to make sure that there are bike

[1:25:35] racks because not everyone's going to

[1:25:36] drive to get

[1:25:38] there and and this um actually just came

[1:25:41] today when there there were two people

[1:25:42] here from the brick lers and they're

[1:25:45] concerning this may be something

[1:25:46] actually that goes into the contract

[1:25:48] that's drawn up um they were concerned

[1:25:51] about local contractors being able to

[1:25:52] work on the project and since since they

[1:25:54] were here I wanted to make sure that I

[1:25:57] um brought that forward they we had an

[1:25:59] opportunity to speak to them in the

[1:26:00] hallway Mr M and I do there anything you

[1:26:03] wanted to add to that Mr M no I I think

[1:26:05] that's SP we will uh redirect them to um

[1:26:09] the relevant um Personnel right so they

[1:26:11] can have conversation in terms of the

[1:26:14] GIC group in terms of um discussion and

[1:26:16] how they can able to ATT the work force

[1:26:19] there but so but just to just to know

[1:26:22] that I and I I don't know that we don't

[1:26:24] have any saying that I'm not sure about

[1:26:25] that but I think that uh you know we

[1:26:27] should be able to make sure that we have

[1:26:29] as many um local contractors if that's

[1:26:31] at all possible and I did address the

[1:26:34] mwbe portion when they were here to uh

[1:26:37] answer a question but just to be clear

[1:26:40] um what was said was the only part of

[1:26:43] the mwbe specifically was the 10 milon

[1:26:46] from esdc although they plan to do

[1:26:49] beyond that so um but the mwbe it's not

[1:26:54] and the local contractors May were

[1:26:56] probably not only be M mwbe so just so

[1:26:59] you know there local contractors are

[1:27:01] concerned about being able to work on

[1:27:02] the project and that the money stays

[1:27:04] locally so I think that's information

[1:27:06] that needs to be that's relevant to for

[1:27:08] all of us to know we didn't all have a

[1:27:09] chance to talk to them they thought they

[1:27:11] were coming tonight to actually have

[1:27:13] that discussion and so we didn't want

[1:27:15] them to wait through the whole thing and

[1:27:17] so we let them know that that's not the

[1:27:18] discussion that we were going to be

[1:27:20] having and that's not for us to make

[1:27:22] those decisions so just want to make

[1:27:24] sure that um that you all knew that um

[1:27:28] does anyone else have anything at all in

[1:27:29] terms of the community benefits

[1:27:31] agreement I'm just going to add to the

[1:27:32] ESD ESD project we as a council should

[1:27:36] encourage our MB contractor to meet with

[1:27:39] thec group to kind of work with them to

[1:27:43] into the workforce there because EST is

[1:27:46] very serious about nwb

[1:27:50] requirement uh I've course have

[1:27:52] knowledge with it so you know so we can

[1:27:55] able to work with them to direct them to

[1:27:57] where they need to go to and able to um

[1:28:01] follow up and make sure that they have

[1:28:03] the relevant um information to make it

[1:28:06] happen we and we know that you know we

[1:28:09] had a contractor who's come to us a

[1:28:11] couple times in the last couple months

[1:28:12] who has said that you know he he lives

[1:28:14] in sky but he doesn't get to work in

[1:28:16] Connect so um we should definitely do

[1:28:21] that

[1:28:23] are there any other

[1:28:24] um anything else with the uh Community

[1:28:27] benefits agreement any other ideas or

[1:28:29] thoughts that people had that they

[1:28:30] wanted to be able to bring

[1:28:32] forward well I do think that the aspect

[1:28:35] of you know Youth Sports and the kinds

[1:28:38] of lessons I do think that you know

[1:28:40] there should be that kind of recognition

[1:28:43] of how do we how do we work that in in

[1:28:45] terms of who gives lessons or or that

[1:28:48] type of thing so I think maybe a

[1:28:49] collaboration with the school district

[1:28:51] as part of it

[1:28:52] um might be the way I don't know how to

[1:28:55] word these things or you know that kind

[1:28:57] of thing but I think certainly a

[1:28:59] partnership with school district around

[1:29:01] the use of

[1:29:03] um The Event Center at part of the time

[1:29:06] for these kind of Youth Sports

[1:29:09] opportunities um would be an important

[1:29:11] piece um so I I like I like the ideas

[1:29:15] that um Mr Williams brought forth

[1:29:18] especially the internships I think

[1:29:20] that's a really interesting idea I think

[1:29:22] that if there is going to be a

[1:29:23] stakeholder group to help think about

[1:29:26] this community benefits um I'd want to

[1:29:28] have more input into who might be a part

[1:29:30] of that group um what what the reasoning

[1:29:33] would be on you know how you pick those

[1:29:36] stakeholders um and then

[1:29:40] uh yeah I think Proctor should probably

[1:29:43] be at some you know be at the table

[1:29:45] because there was some issue at the very

[1:29:47] beginning of the discussions about the

[1:29:49] event center so it would be good to have

[1:29:51] rep represent you know to make sure

[1:29:53] there's no I think they would probably

[1:29:55] want to be at the table as well as part

[1:29:56] of that state grou is what I'm saying

[1:29:59] and just want to make sure that I think

[1:30:01] discover conect is probably already

[1:30:04] involved with the project but again

[1:30:06] because part of it is going to be able

[1:30:08] to be used for conferences maybe there's

[1:30:10] a way again if the school district for

[1:30:12] example was wanting to host a conference

[1:30:14] of other Educators maybe there could be

[1:30:17] some sort of significant discount or or

[1:30:19] something like that um around conference

[1:30:23] planning mayor and Council looking to

[1:30:26] have these things apply to Proctors also

[1:30:30] city has a lot more money invested in

[1:30:32] Proctors 2 and a half million we're

[1:30:34] going to put in the sub Center well

[1:30:36] that's a good point I had is so are we

[1:30:39] asking the proes for a community

[1:30:40] benefits agreement is that what you

[1:30:42] that's what I'm asking give them some

[1:30:44] money you know is it just this sole

[1:30:47] project or is this something we're

[1:30:49] looking to apply across the awarded

[1:30:52] yes well for me this it was this

[1:30:54] particular project um we're awarding

[1:30:56] funds and there's also going to be a

[1:30:58] pilot which is minimal taxes hey Mr um

[1:31:01] buo said that himself so when I brought

[1:31:03] it up it was around this the only other

[1:31:05] community benefits agreement that I'm

[1:31:06] aware of that we ever did was with bcni

[1:31:09] when they were doing the Elmer Avenue

[1:31:11] project so and I know that Pro already

[1:31:14] does a number of things in terms of

[1:31:15] discounting tickets Etc and so on so um

[1:31:18] I'm I'm quite aware of

[1:31:20] that yes Mr T I'd like the took the

[1:31:24] words out of my mouth so um I haven't

[1:31:26] thought of anything that I'd like um for

[1:31:28] the um Event Center to have but as far

[1:31:31] as Community benefits agreement I mean

[1:31:33] we've handed out money and we haven't

[1:31:35] put these stipulations on anyone else

[1:31:39] Community benefits agreements generally

[1:31:40] go with development projects development

[1:31:43] projects that's what they usually go on

[1:31:44] with so not not agencies and

[1:31:47] organizations but development projects

[1:31:49] but again I you you know I I don't

[1:31:53] understand why we're just specifically

[1:31:54] sticking to to the harbor to the event

[1:31:58] center I mean who are we that say you

[1:32:00] know that they should give a discount to

[1:32:04] um you know events coming

[1:32:07] IDE but I they're a business they're

[1:32:10] running a business um I'd like to see

[1:32:12] you know um there's adults who skate

[1:32:15] there's adult sports things like that so

[1:32:17] on down times I would like you know

[1:32:19] those things to happen um so those are

[1:32:21] things that you want to see in there is

[1:32:23] that what you're saying sure

[1:32:24] so open SK for yes may and I'll try and

[1:32:29] get skating lessons for the city

[1:32:34] council I want like three blades on the

[1:32:37] bottom of mine good so I just

[1:32:40] want yes Mr mtiv yeah just to address

[1:32:43] some of the the tal Point um some of the

[1:32:45] agency that we funded within the

[1:32:47] community they already within the

[1:32:49] community so it's they benefiting the

[1:32:52] community the service that they're

[1:32:53] providing to the residents is also part

[1:32:56] of that Community benefit that they are

[1:32:59] providing already so there's nothing

[1:33:01] more to add to that other than they

[1:33:03] providing us the report the outcome to

[1:33:05] show that they actually spending the

[1:33:06] money and the money is being spent

[1:33:08] wisely and the outcome is um is there

[1:33:11] and it's whatever set out to achieve

[1:33:14] right so you know okay can attach any

[1:33:17] Community benefits to those agency when

[1:33:19] already Serv a community I think when Mr buo was here making his

[1:33:23] presentations both times he talked about

[1:33:26] wanting this Center to have a community

[1:33:28] benefit so I don't think that I think

[1:33:31] obviously he they'd be involved in these

[1:33:33] discussions we were just coming up with

[1:33:35] some possible ideas but he clearly made

[1:33:39] it seem that he was interested in this

[1:33:42] being a

[1:33:43] Community Union College wants to do you

[1:33:46] look at that site they do the harbor

[1:33:50] series which is free there's

[1:33:53] no you do the fireworks so again they

[1:33:57] want to complement the good things that

[1:33:59] are happening here in the community and

[1:34:02] have broad-based support and so it's uh

[1:34:06] some of it is not to as we sit here

[1:34:08] tonight we won't necessarily be able to

[1:34:11] see all the opportunities or scenarios

[1:34:13] that will present themselves as we go

[1:34:16] forward and the utilization at that site

[1:34:19] uh continues to increase and uh

[1:34:23] yes Mr Williams and then just as a point

[1:34:25] of clarification because Mr detor you

[1:34:27] said it time and time again I would say

[1:34:29] as council members we were elected to

[1:34:31] represent the best interest of the city

[1:34:33] so I think with regards to this project

[1:34:35] again um during the presentation it was

[1:34:38] clear that wanting to ensure that the

[1:34:40] community benefit was at the Crux of of

[1:34:43] this project and my understanding of

[1:34:45] community benefits agreements is that

[1:34:47] they just clearly outline so that it is

[1:34:49] transparent the expectations moving

[1:34:51] forward and again as what the mayor

[1:34:52] highlighted it's a recommendations this

[1:34:54] is a conversation so in no way does what

[1:34:57] we dictate going to be the end all be

[1:35:00] all that again is a conversation um but

[1:35:02] again I do think we are the individuals

[1:35:04] best suited based on our uh roles to

[1:35:09] Advocate and and so it's going to be

[1:35:11] conversations negotiations and there's

[1:35:13] one thing that you did not that you

[1:35:14] brought up at the meeting that you can

[1:35:16] bring up tonight Mr manini and that was

[1:35:18] when if something happened if there was

[1:35:21] where people could gather

[1:35:23] disaster emergency preparedness yeah so

[1:35:26] you did bring that up and was waiting

[1:35:28] for that but well I I was going to wait

[1:35:31] this that that you know part of it is

[1:35:33] they

[1:35:34] work I was let everybody else doing okay

[1:35:38] I'm sorry I'm sorry yeah you know that they work closely with the county

[1:35:42] and the city event planning but also the

[1:35:44] Emergency Management event that we would

[1:35:45] need that as a site that they would be

[1:35:48] available and it was you the other idea

[1:35:50] is working with the city school district and be open to working with a

[1:35:53] nonprofit network if they had to want to plan events that they'd be a

[1:35:57] good Community partner in

[1:35:59] that um and so again I you know and it's

[1:36:02] been said time and time again that the

[1:36:04] gy group um Mr bua when he was here said

[1:36:06] that um because this is not the gesi

[1:36:08] group it's what's the name of the group

[1:36:10] what's the name of it mayor the name of

[1:36:12] the um

[1:36:19] company properties right so the so they

[1:36:23] U on their behalf because he is a

[1:36:25] partner in the in that particular um LLC

[1:36:28] is he said that they wanted to they were

[1:36:30] willing to do to the community open to

[1:36:31] the community to do things so we're not

[1:36:33] asking anything outside of what they

[1:36:34] said they were doing we're simply saying

[1:36:36] we'd like to make it in writing and

[1:36:38] that's what business people do they put

[1:36:39] things in writing so I don't think we're

[1:36:41] going above and beyond or asking for

[1:36:43] more than they already committed to um

[1:36:45] when they were here so um that's that's

[1:36:48] why we're looking at this so um the for

[1:36:51] me to follow will be that we'll get all

[1:36:52] the notes from today we'll put them

[1:36:54] together bring them for the council and

[1:36:57] we have to move forward in terms of um

[1:36:59] meeting with whe the representatives are

[1:37:02] from the gesi group because I don't know

[1:37:03] that they're going to say that

[1:37:04] everything that we ask no no um it's

[1:37:08] going to be there but I think that we

[1:37:10] should that doesn't mean that we

[1:37:11] shouldn't ask and then we'll sit down

[1:37:14] and have those conversations about what

[1:37:16] that could look like so I think it's

[1:37:18] reasonable and and that's how we should

[1:37:20] move forward

[1:37:22] we're going to put all this information

[1:37:23] in the draft can we discuss it with them

[1:37:26] prior to us bringing it oh to the

[1:37:30] council you don't want to you don't want

[1:37:31] to see it all in one concise place first

[1:37:33] yeah we want to see everything together

[1:37:35] but can we discuss it with the G group.

[1:37:39] LLC partnership whatever and kind of

[1:37:42] work with them to make sure we have it

[1:37:44] document they working doent or do we

[1:37:46] want to discuss I think we should bring

[1:37:49] our information together and so we can

[1:37:51] look at what we talked about tonight and

[1:37:53] make sure we're there before we meet

[1:37:55] with them to make sure we're clear on

[1:37:57] what we really want to ask for and that

[1:37:59] we've articulated it well well you might

[1:38:01] they might have things that they want to

[1:38:02] put through oh no no I'm not saying that

[1:38:04] they won't you don't want to like U

[1:38:05] preempt it and say well you discuss this

[1:38:07] and then we're going to go to them now

[1:38:08] this why our work is on the same level

[1:38:11] work with us to get all this information

[1:38:12] in the draft work with them to kind of

[1:38:14] look it over and bring their suggestion

[1:38:16] and then have one draft for us to

[1:38:18] officially discuss I think a really good

[1:38:21] idea I think I think bringing them back

[1:38:25] again we were just sort of brainstorming

[1:38:28] agreement too right so our wording

[1:38:30] should not conflict with the count y we

[1:38:35] can I can ask for a copy from the from

[1:38:39] the

[1:38:40] county and we can look at that we should

[1:38:43] definitely look at that but and and and

[1:38:45] so we can ask we you know I think that

[1:38:47] we do have to definitely um ask what

[1:38:49] there for me Comm benefit AG we're

[1:38:51] asking them for to agree to certain

[1:38:53] things I don't know that and for them

[1:38:55] it's will they will or not agree as

[1:38:57] opposed to them wanting to do say what

[1:38:59] is what they want in the community

[1:39:01] but

[1:39:03] so yeah kind of way I'm thinking back

[1:39:07] when we did the first one for the El

[1:39:09] project was back and for that we had to

[1:39:11] you know if you remember I I don't think

[1:39:14] I was yeah you were on the

[1:39:16] council couple of us yeah it was back

[1:39:19] and forth it was back and forth back and

[1:39:20] forth until because we we drafted they

[1:39:23] didn't get a chance and then they review

[1:39:24] it come back to us and it was like we

[1:39:26] can avoid that by having you know shared

[1:39:28] information across the board and um give

[1:39:30] them an opportunity look at what the

[1:39:32] county has and able to merror our draft

[1:39:35] like similar to the county and think can

[1:39:37] I run it to them well and I'll reach out

[1:39:40] to Mr I guess buo tomorrow and just tell

[1:39:42] him that if there's we are discussing

[1:39:44] this if there are things that they would

[1:39:46] like to see as part of it and U Mr M

[1:39:48] you'll get a copy of the counties yes I

[1:39:50] will right and I will sh to the they

[1:39:53] already have done that sure mayor have

[1:39:55] they already completed theirs count yes

[1:39:59] okay we definitely okay so

[1:40:04] um that's our next steps

[1:40:08] yes oh I thought your hand was up okay

[1:40:12] is there anything

[1:40:13] else he a motion to a

[1:40:19] Jour huh I ra I raised my hand all right

[1:40:24] second second Mr M no City development

[1:40:29] and planning committee oh one two three

[1:40:32] oh yeah yes G you did that

[1:40:36] okay so you made the motion I'll second

[1:40:39] all

[1:40:43] favor you always

[1:40:46] call you didn't read that thing I'll get

[1:40:48] it I

[1:40:49] did

[1:40:52] that no you need no we need the big one

[1:40:55] that's that's

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[1:41:02] abev it's okay it's okay it really

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[1:41:19] is

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Special City Council Committee Meeting, February 15, 2024

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