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[3:25] call the order connected city council

[3:26] committee meeting for Monday March 18th

[3:28] 2024

[3:30] uh we have three presentations this

[3:32] evening and so I would like to start

[3:36] with the electric city colop and whoever

[3:38] is presenting please come here we have a

[3:40] microphone for you all

[3:43] right and you have handouts for us I do

[3:46] okay you can just give me look okay um

[3:51] Alexander Carver said there might I

[3:54] emailed her a presentation is it

[3:55] possible that we can get

[3:58] that

[4:01] if not that is okay because I got it

[4:03] printed out in front of

[4:04] me you

[4:06] can but I will one

[4:14] sure can you put

[4:20] this is this

[4:22] hot people at home for

[4:26] television all right uh honorable mayor

[4:29] m MERS of the city council um

[4:32] distinguished staff I just want to

[4:34] introduce myself my name is Eric Johnson

[4:36] I'm the president of the Electric City

[4:38] Food Co-op uh we're doing business as uh

[4:42] the Electric City Community grocery uh

[4:45] we were awarded a grant from arpa for a

[4:50] million dollar in in support of our

[4:52] Cooperative grocery startup in downtown

[4:54] is

[4:55] connected first I just want to say uh

[4:58] how much gratitude our group group

[5:00] brings to this uh governing body and how

[5:03] thankful we are for your support it's

[5:06] meant a lot to have your support and

[5:08] it's really lifted our

[5:10] sales uh I'd also just like to say that

[5:13] we've made uh a great deal of progress

[5:16] since being awarded this

[5:19] proposal um and would just like to uh

[5:24] you know just begin with the Positive

[5:27] gratitude that we have for this group

[5:30] and uh we'll get right into it I do also

[5:32] just want to say I recently had eye

[5:33] surgery so I was sort of counting on

[5:35] this presentation to be um online but

[5:38] I'll um work through this um and

[5:44] uh so um what what we've done is we've

[5:49] sent a letter requesting an extension

[5:52] for our arpa um Award with the city our

[5:56] award expired on March uh 12th this year

[6:00] and what we're requesting is a r uh

[6:04] extension for six months to that time uh

[6:07] so that we can work with our partners to

[6:09] secure our

[6:10] location and uh deliver a downtown uh

[6:14] grocery to the city of SKC uh our

[6:17] mission from the very beginning has been

[6:19] to deliver a grocery store to downtown

[6:21] SKC uh that is our Focus um so that so

[6:25] when it comes to um you know

[6:28] conversations about other places our

[6:30] primary focus is delivering that grocery

[6:32] to downtown skty um and then once we're

[6:35] through with that we can obviously look

[6:37] at other

[6:39] opportunities uh I just want to draw

[6:41] your attention to the third slide it's

[6:43] got uh these logos right here so what we

[6:48] have um in this third slide is a

[6:51] three um three Federal a federal state

[6:55] and a

[6:56] local uh solution or plans that were

[7:00] developed uh on the left you have the

[7:03] arpa

[7:04] um the arpa um federal law which was

[7:09] passed right and pumped a ton of money

[7:11] into the economy during co uh we've got

[7:15] the downtown re re development re uh

[7:19] initiative or drri which identified uh a

[7:22] need for a grosser in downtown skincity

[7:26] to complement the current blend of

[7:28] economic

[7:30] um economic um balance and then the city

[7:34] uh of Sky 2020 plan that was approved in

[7:38] 2008 which set a planning initiative to

[7:41] do a perform analysis for a grocery

[7:45] store and to move that

[7:53] forward uh the next slide covers um that

[7:57] we just are identified as a as a food

[7:59] desert in skty uh food desert is an

[8:03] interesting term defined by the federal

[8:05] government but in fact it's a really uh

[8:09] what I Define as food apartheid because

[8:11] it is a um structural implemented way in

[8:16] which there is a scarcity of

[8:18] availability of healthy foods for

[8:20] certain zip codes based on decisions of

[8:23] planners of the

[8:25] past and uh you know the way that we can

[8:28] solve that is through food sovereignty

[8:30] so the electric city food cop is not

[8:33] going to solve the problem uh the

[8:35] electric city food Pro um alone the

[8:38] Electric City Food Co-op is part of the

[8:40] mix on the right side of this slide

[8:43] which is slide

[8:44] four uh is uh it represents the Sky City

[8:49] Food Council which includes sium the

[8:52] Green Market SK School District farm farm School Tech Valley shuttles

[8:58] the City Mission

[9:00] uh the Cornell extension us and a total

[9:03] of 30 plus organizations that are

[9:05] working together with the concy

[9:07] foundation to further food policy and

[9:10] the challenges within the food

[9:14] space okay great great I'll put this

[9:19] down um if you can go to the next slide

[9:22] please so um it's quite easy to think

[9:26] like our organization's been around for

[9:28] 10 years now we incorporated in

[9:31] 2013 and it would be easy to conclude

[9:33] that we're not making progress I want to

[9:35] just point out this graph uh you see

[9:38] that we made steady progress up until

[9:40] the pandemic and then we Flatline the

[9:42] pandemic is represented on the red

[9:46] rectangle and you'll see as we the

[9:49] official end of the pandemic by that

[9:51] time obviously people were moving around

[9:54] but we were having explosive growth uh

[9:57] at that point we went from 4 65 members

[10:01] through 1,000 at the end of this year

[10:02] we're up to 1,035 right now and part of

[10:07] the way that we were able to invigorate

[10:09] the community was through the Public

[10:12] Funding that we had we were able to re

[10:15] uh price our membership from $200 to $25

[10:19] what this did was it made it more

[10:21] accessible to our community we had a

[10:23] more diverse population that was able to

[10:26] join in fact uh we we were able to

[10:30] gather and raise funds to provide

[10:32] solidary memberships for those that are

[10:35] unable to provide the $25 we were able

[10:37] to supplement their

[10:40] membership um so we continue to grow a

[10:42] lot of enthusiasm within the community

[10:44] and we're at the point now if you notice

[10:47] the diagram on your right hand side uh

[10:50] we've gone we have paid for uh Market

[10:53] studies we've done uh our proforma our

[10:56] business plan uh We've exceeded our me

[11:00] our membership goals to where we can

[11:02] kind of move out of our planning stage

[11:04] and we've been engaged with Metroplex

[11:07] and we have um are getting ready to sign

[11:09] a site uh contract with NCG who is our

[11:14] uh our implementation partner which I'll

[11:16] go to in in a few more

[11:18] slides so if we can go to the next slide

[11:21] please I just want to just reflect on

[11:23] some of our board members

[11:26] um pretty great group of people

[11:30] we meet every week uh to further it we

[11:33] have four active subcommittees within

[11:36] this board the people that are circled

[11:39] with a light green color are all new

[11:42] within the last year and I just want to

[11:44] highlight that within this group of

[11:46] board members we have people that have

[11:50] deep experience within the grocery

[11:52] business both Price Chopper and

[11:55] Cooperative groceries uh people who have

[11:58] experience on board Boards of directors

[11:59] of co-ops we've got Finance people we've

[12:03] got accountants we've got food

[12:05] manufacturers uh we've got Bakers and

[12:08] just general downtown boosters so these

[12:10] are the people from your community our

[12:12] community that are invigorated and

[12:15] involved and are looking to get this

[12:17] project

[12:19] done uh building back to better together

[12:22] and so the on the next slide just want

[12:24] to cover uh National Cooperative Grocers

[12:28] so you can kind of think of this as like

[12:30] a um it's a chain for independent

[12:34] groceries they have a Professional

[12:36] Services line that is in the business of

[12:39] starting up GR uh Cooperative grocery

[12:42] stores around the country in fact

[12:43] they're starting up six in the first

[12:45] half of this year so they're on on Pace

[12:48] of doing about one per month just right

[12:50] now they've got 230 stores in 39 states

[12:55] and their total spend is $2.5 billion

[12:58] annually so we get a lot of buying uh

[13:01] advantages by working with the national

[13:03] Cooperative Grocers they've got a

[13:05] product line which is uh an affordable

[13:09] product line uh there's often um an

[13:12] association with cooperatives that

[13:15] cooperatives are expensive I'm never

[13:17] going to be able to afford it oh thank

[13:19] you so much um and cooperatives can be

[13:22] expensive but it's our goal to provide

[13:25] Staples that are affordable to our

[13:27] community uh that's imper for our

[13:29] business model and also provide options

[13:32] for you know with local farmers which

[13:34] might be at a higher price

[13:36] point so um you know we've got lots of

[13:40] examples and and like I said the um 1.3

[13:44] million customer owners uh are reflected

[13:47] there they've got contracts with semi

[13:50] trucks to move move food in so we be

[13:52] using them for food supply they'll help

[13:54] us with the Final store design um HR

[13:59] payroll Finance point of sale uh through

[14:02] store opening through um

[14:06] stabilization uh so the dream te team

[14:10] can't be beat so it's kind of a funny

[14:12] play there but we've got uh the Electric

[14:15] City Food Co-op the national uh Co-op

[14:18] Grocers and uh obviously you all who

[14:22] were so thankful for and SK County and

[14:25] of course Metroplex and uh Dave or Scott

[14:30] I don't know if there's anything that

[14:31] you wanted to add or wait for

[14:37] questions Scott C Tech Metro PL um it be

[14:42] on

[14:43] camera okay Scott C Tech Metroplex uh

[14:46] thank you for letting us be here today

[14:48] uh you know Eric and his team have been

[14:50] really working extremely hard and trying

[14:52] to make this a reality I can remember

[14:55] back to the late 90s you know not having

[14:58] anything supp to have a grer downtown

[15:01] you know outside of Eastern Avan Price

[15:03] Chopper and so this has been a long time

[15:06] coming there's a lot of momentum being

[15:08] had right now we're at almost at the

[15:10] finish line there's a couple locations

[15:12] and a couple developers they're working

[15:14] with I can't disclose either location

[15:16] and or developers because we signed n

[15:19] NDA non disclosure agreements um but I

[15:22] will say that with a little more time I

[15:25] think we can uh pull this off um you

[15:27] know with the bank Environ right now

[15:29] Insurance a little bit higher we all

[15:31] thought the rates start coming down a

[15:32] little bit I think that they will as we

[15:34] get toward summertime that's kind of

[15:36] affecting some of the pricing strategies

[15:38] but I do think that given a little bit

[15:40] more time here I think they they can uh

[15:42] execute this plan U they're doing all

[15:44] the right things and U anything that you

[15:46] can do to extend this little bit we be

[15:48] much appreciate it um and uh we do

[15:51] appreciate it thank

[15:57] you

[16:00] okay this next slide is uh a screenshot

[16:03] from our new website which was just

[16:05] released over the weekend which we're

[16:07] excited about but that's not the main

[16:10] points the main point is what's in it

[16:12] for the community as you I'm sorry it's

[16:16] the slide with the yeah that one right

[16:18] there

[16:18] so yeah so what what what are we

[16:21] bringing to the community um you see

[16:24] expanded uh access to Local Foods uh and

[16:28] local you know supporting local grossers

[16:31] producers and artisians keep your

[16:33] dollars local uh create local jobs uh

[16:37] our estimate is um

[16:41] $154,000 monthly

[16:43] payroll um cultivate thriving

[16:46] communities rooted root systems uh give

[16:50] classes you culinary classes how to

[16:53] sharpen knives how to do the things that

[16:55] some of our Traditions have forgotten as

[16:58] far as cooking together and eating

[17:00] together uh participate in the

[17:02] governance of a Cooperative organization

[17:05] and connect with communities so it's

[17:06] just important to uh think that this is

[17:09] a really great way for us to develop our

[17:11] community and expand the Civic

[17:14] engagement here in SK

[17:17] activity um like Scott said and thanks

[17:20] for that Scott uh we're working with

[17:22] Metro Metroflex to sign an agreement to

[17:25] occupy a space and a lease agreement uh

[17:28] as you said we can't um disclose the

[17:31] location or the developer and as of you

[17:35] know Tuesday last week when our deadline

[17:38] came through we did not have that deal

[17:40] done and that as we all know

[17:42] negotiations sometimes take a little bit

[17:44] of time right they're not always easy

[17:48] and so this negotiation is taking a

[17:50] little bit of

[17:52] time uh just as to close if you know a

[17:57] vote a vote of no an extension for us

[18:00] makes gives you plenty of time to

[18:03] reallocate the funds for other

[18:05] priorities that you

[18:07] have um the risk is as our team sees it

[18:11] is that you're missing a really a once

[18:13] in a-lifetime opportunity to bring a

[18:15] grocery store to downtown the private

[18:17] sector alone isn't going to do this it

[18:20] doesn't work work for them and so if if we miss this opportunity we're going

[18:26] to be waiting a long time time to get a

[18:29] Downtown

[18:31] Grocery and um you know we've got a good

[18:35] leadership team we've got robust

[18:38] participation uh people are lit up about

[18:41] participating in this and just excited

[18:44] to support one another and that's

[18:45] something that we all like to see in our

[18:48] community so I think from that

[18:50] perspective it would be um a challenge

[18:54] for us to not see this

[18:57] extension voting yes on a six-month

[19:00] extension uh would align with arpa dri

[19:05] and vision

[19:06] 2020 it would improve food access and uh

[19:09] Equity it would catalyze local and

[19:11] Regional food opportunities and

[19:14] encourage citizens to participate in the

[19:16] Democratic process within the food

[19:19] system itself the downside or risk you

[19:22] might say is that 6 month extension

[19:25] would allow you only 14 weeks to

[19:27] reallocate those funds funds by the time

[19:30] that you must have those committed which

[19:32] I believe is December 31st of this year

[19:37] and the other downside is other grantees

[19:39] would have to essentially wait in the

[19:41] winds while they're um while while we're

[19:46] fing out on things it's not our

[19:48] intention to use the full six months uh

[19:51] these negotiations do take time uh and

[19:55] unfortunately Eric and the co-op team

[19:58] don't always get a seat right at the

[20:00] front of the table because a lot of

[20:02] these negotiations are between

[20:04] Metroplex the the county and the

[20:07] developers so we've been I think Scott

[20:10] and know's very encouraging of this

[20:12] project moving process moving along

[20:14] faster but these negotiations do just

[20:16] take some

[20:19] time um just a few supplemental slides

[20:23] so from the drri uh I just want to note

[20:27] that the dri report of 2020 noted that

[20:31] there was a lack or void of neighborhood

[20:33] goods and services in the downtown area

[20:36] so that is um one of the three important

[20:40] ingredients to a healthy economy and

[20:42] without um a healthy uh Tri Brit of

[20:47] those three areas you won't have people

[20:50] coming down and staying downtown to

[20:51] spend their dollars and that's been

[20:53] identified and

[20:54] reinforced as a problem a systematic

[20:57] problem with downtown sign Cony and it's

[21:00] why we have a hard time keeping and

[21:02] attracting Shoppers in the downtown area

[21:06] um and I think this next slide shows

[21:09] that if we're able to SOL at least

[21:11] partially solve that problem by bringing

[21:13] goods and services downtown neighborhood

[21:15] goods and services then we get just more

[21:18] walkability more people spending more

[21:20] money downtown um more action downtown

[21:25] the the restaurants will benefit uh

[21:27] other stores will benefit so um I think

[21:30] that that's just an important thing and

[21:32] then lastly I just want to say that um

[21:36] I'm not sure that co-ops are familiar to

[21:38] everybody

[21:40] but we're a Cooperative uh other one of

[21:44] the other organizations here is is a

[21:45] Cooperative

[21:46] organization and what we know about

[21:49] cooperatives is that it's a way to lift

[21:51] one another up in Economic Development

[21:55] by supporting one another and teaming

[21:57] together to make uh Solutions where

[21:59] otherwise Solutions won't be available

[22:02] so that's really all I have to present

[22:04] to the council I'm the mayor and I'd

[22:06] like to thank you if there's any

[22:08] questions be more than happy to answer

[22:10] those right so I'm going to start but so

[22:12] the site control the only thing that

[22:13] you're really waiting for in terms of

[22:15] being able to move forward with this

[22:17] project site control is where what is

[22:20] the one leling factor yes all right and

[22:23] um you said you wanted 6 months yes so

[22:27] um but you pointed out yourself then we

[22:29] only have 14 weeks to reallocate funds

[22:31] although I think we I think the city

[22:32] could figure that out Anthony

[22:34] right um so let's say we just can't get

[22:37] to 6 months what could what could we

[22:40] reasonably sure um great question so a

[22:45] reasonable uh compromise would be

[22:47] splitting the difference but 3 months

[22:50] really won't get us what we need uh so

[22:54] you know you say like Eric's asking for

[22:56] 6 months let's get him 3 months the

[22:58] clock already ticking we're one week

[22:59] into it um and so from my perspective 3

[23:04] months is a very risky proposition to to

[23:09] me and I thought a lot about this 5

[23:11] months is about where we could land and

[23:13] still either know this deal is going to

[23:16] happen and we're going to get it done or

[23:17] no this isn't and we've given it a vant

[23:19] effort and you know we'll either

[23:23] continue without the funds or we'll go on our Mar

[23:27] lights

[23:29] right so I do you know just I I think I

[23:31] already said this to you but if we

[23:33] whatever time limit we give and you know

[23:35] we're not going to be unreasonable um

[23:37] once we get there and if you're not able

[23:39] to do that then we would have no choice

[23:41] but to to resend the funds because we

[23:44] are facing that deadline it's not

[23:46] because we want to but we are facing a

[23:48] deadline with the federal government and

[23:49] we have to meet that deadline or we

[23:50] could then ConEd to lose funds and we

[23:52] certainly don't want to do that so um

[23:55] like I started off we're very grateful

[23:57] and full of gratitud ude for this Grant

[24:00] and totally understand where you are so

[24:04] yeah we're meeting where where you are

[24:07] other questions for Council Members Mr

[24:09] Williams just as a point of clarity and

[24:11] thank you for this presentation I think

[24:13] it was very apparent that you built it

[24:14] with an understanding of working

[24:16] collaboratively and together and I think

[24:17] that was one of the common themes that

[24:19] just very much stood out to me um just

[24:22] wanting to get a clarification from um

[24:24] Council porterfield's Point uh it's

[24:27] apparent that the biggest obstacle is

[24:29] the getting sight control however you

[24:31] alluded that there were other elements

[24:32] also that 5 months does that fully

[24:35] address the site control issue or is

[24:37] that to fully address all outstanding

[24:39] issues so yeah so where we're at right

[24:42] now is we've submitted our affid

[24:44] affidavits our policies our uh orc

[24:48] structure like we've submitted

[24:49] everything to you guys all uh we have

[24:53] one Gap with insurance which is you

[24:55] can't have insurance without a site and

[24:57] we just have a box right now so we

[25:00] talked with Miss Carver about that uh

[25:02] there is a question of a $5.7 million

[25:05] match and we do not currently have that

[25:07] so we've got a commitment from the

[25:08] county for 3 million the situation is a

[25:11] little bit different right now because

[25:14] uh previously when we applied for the uh

[25:17] Grant the idea was to buy a building so

[25:20] that with with some of these projects

[25:22] they're much bigger projects and so we

[25:25] will be a tenant with that and paying

[25:27] for a portion of to build out through

[25:30] our grant funds so to specifically

[25:33] answer your question I think we look for

[25:34] some accommodations with the matching of

[25:40] 5.7 anybody else thank you Mr yes follow

[25:44] up on that you're matching a 5.7 is that

[25:46] secure or in the process of being secure

[25:50] so it's not secured it's our our request

[25:52] was to have contributions from our

[25:54] developer right so that would be for a

[25:57] few million uh we got the county for 3

[25:59] million and I think actually what we'd

[26:02] like to request is a reduction in that

[26:04] 5.7 for to something lower than that the

[26:08] matching amount from the county and the

[26:10] city uh I think we could do a little bit

[26:12] more than that but that would be ideal

[26:14] 44 million yeah so $3 million matching

[26:17] to the 1

[26:18] million so overall what is an estimated

[26:21] cost of this

[26:22] project so again that depends on the

[26:26] particulars of the development

[26:28] um but right now we're looking

[26:31] at I mean one developer

[26:34] is is it possible that I could just give

[26:37] you some numbers afterwards I mean I or

[26:40] I mean I can give you estimates yeah I'm just looking for

[26:43] estimates so so right now it's um like

[26:48] 4.5

[26:50] to I'd say 5.8 would be the total

[26:54] project alling cost

[26:57] mhm

[27:01] Mr F yeah I just wanted to oh I'm

[27:05] sorry no sorry yeah so I'm looking at

[27:07] the numbers here so you let going high

[27:09] in 5.8 this is estimated numers so

[27:12] you're looking at um that secure money

[27:14] already from the city and county $4

[27:15] million so you're looking at $1.8

[27:18] million out yeah small funding yeah so

[27:22] that's that's right so we'll need to

[27:24] make that up through commitments from

[27:27] the developer

[27:28] that's one and then

[27:31] loans it's yeah uh the loans will be a

[27:34] combination of member loans like

[27:37] Community loans and then uh development

[27:40] like uh there's Cooperative uh

[27:44] startup Capital funds that give out

[27:47] loans and it is also hard to get a loan

[27:50] and you don't have a lot any collateral

[27:54] right you you mentioned um in your

[27:57] presentation that your point where to

[27:59] secure this lease agreement so you think

[28:01] that at that point where you're right

[28:03] now to secure the lease agreement is

[28:05] going to take you 5 mons to get that

[28:08] done I hope so I mean if we don't have

[28:11] that I maybe I'd ask Scott to ask answer

[28:24] that um typically you know when you get

[28:26] to this part of the game game you

[28:28] typically will sign up what they call an

[28:29] Loi which is Le than 10 that just basic

[28:33] business tenants you know rate term some

[28:37] other major things then into the lease a

[28:40] document itself from timing perspective

[28:43] again this is if we agree today we have

[28:45] a deal you're probably looking at you

[28:47] know anywhere from 30 to 60 days just to

[28:49] complete that task if we had the site

[28:52] already identified work the math out

[28:55] since we kind of two sites that were

[28:57] working true we don't have the final

[28:59] numbers yet so it's probably going to be

[29:01] more three 3 to four months and you know

[29:05] once you kind of get to that point so

[29:07] asking for five is you know is great um

[29:09] but I do think we're very somewhat close

[29:11] to pulling this together and we do need

[29:13] some time so it's not like you just

[29:15] we're going to do this you legal

[29:17] documents you have to you know uh

[29:19] finalize and make sure that everyone's

[29:21] comfortable with the terms of conditions

[29:22] of the lease and that does take a little

[29:24] bit of time back and forth so hopefully

[29:26] that answers the question so

[29:31] Mr Bry has a question so well more of a

[29:33] statement too so number one I want to

[29:35] kind of just highlight some of the

[29:36] things that you talked about as far as

[29:38] growing

[29:39] membership um you know so this is

[29:42] clearly a project that's really about

[29:44] it's not lost on us that it's about

[29:46] accessibility and once you were able to

[29:48] secure funds where you didn't have to

[29:50] charge people such a high amount more

[29:53] people had uh that created an open up

[29:56] access for people to join and I think

[29:58] that that is really what we're talking

[30:00] about this project you know overall is

[30:03] that with access to um quality food

[30:07] people care about what they eat but but

[30:10] right now The Limited options that are

[30:13] presented kind of don't um you decrease

[30:16] the likelihood of them having a healthy

[30:17] food option so I I think that it's

[30:19] really um important that we we just kind

[30:23] of recognize the fact that as soon as we

[30:25] increase access to people to be a part

[30:27] of this they were a part of this and I

[30:29] would just um safely assume that that

[30:31] would be the response from the larger

[30:33] community that if we presented for

[30:35] people that they were supported I also

[30:37] like the fact that you have some um

[30:39] board members with some pretty extensive

[30:41] uh experience um with grocery stores and

[30:44] could you talk a little bit about that

[30:46] and what their are sure yeah uh and I

[30:48] would say just to respond to your first

[30:50] point we fully expect our membership to

[30:53] really Skyrocket once we uh continue to

[30:55] Skyrocket once we announce and I just

[30:58] want to say that there's no requirement

[31:00] to be a member to shop at this fishy

[31:02] store so I just want to be very clear

[31:03] there so Rick mosart who's right over

[31:06] there this uh handsome looking gentleman

[31:08] he he has 30 years experience uh fitting

[31:11] up Price Choppers for go go up

[31:14] Corporation so he's the guy that would

[31:16] go in and optimize Price Choppers uh set

[31:19] them up make sure that the insides the

[31:22] guts the operations were just as they

[31:24] should be so he was uh one of Mr gb's

[31:27] Right and

[31:29] lieutenants uh and then after that he

[31:31] broke away and worked for hestu f food

[31:35] cop which is a food cop UH 60 plus years

[31:38] old in Albany was General Manager for 5

[31:41] years and then we've got a geman named

[31:44] Alex Mika who is uh worked at aneste as

[31:47] well and he's since taken a job with

[31:50] national Cooperative grocers in their

[31:53] Consulting team he won't be on our

[31:55] project because it would be sort of a

[31:56] conflict of interest

[31:58] but he's out helping uh co-ops all

[32:01] around the country those 230 Co-op

[32:03] grocery stores that I talked about in

[32:05] order for them to make the most of their

[32:08] Co-op right cuz this this organization

[32:10] gives marketing help HR help legal help

[32:13] uh operations help point of sale help it

[32:16] help and all that so those are the two

[32:19] guys and then I have been involved with

[32:21] food coops I lived in Denver before here

[32:23] I was involved in one food co-op that

[32:26] got turned upside down because the real estate got um too valuable so we

[32:31] didn't get a chance to open the store so

[32:33] the the dirt got to be too valuable we

[32:36] weren't able to open I was on a board of

[32:38] another Co-op that had a mix of a

[32:41] nonprofit and a for-profit model so we

[32:43] were able to do a lot of more Community

[32:46] oriented activities so I've been around

[32:49] cutting my teeth with the co-op space

[32:50] for a while as well okay one more so

[32:53] also obviously this project is about

[32:55] accessibility and equity and I just

[32:57] could you talk a little bit about um

[33:00] maybe what the value system around

[33:03] hiring people from the neighborhood as

[33:05] you know section section three workers

[33:07] as they usually described and people um

[33:10] uh minority and women um like you talk a

[33:13] little bit about what the ideology is of

[33:15] the group in Project yeah so we've uh so

[33:20] we're going to have about uh 38 to 45

[33:24] full-time employees on opening um and we

[33:27] haven't set any specific policies about

[33:29] that but we want the makeup of our our

[33:33] store to be the makeup of our community

[33:37] so without getting into too many details

[33:38] we want it to reflect our community

[33:41] itself thank

[33:43] you any other questions

[33:46] comments well thank you for coming and

[33:48] thank you for all the hard work I know

[33:49] it's been years of work and they could

[33:52] drop the ball on thank you so much

[33:53] everybody I really appreciate your time

[33:55] and we'll we'll discuss this in in our

[33:57] committee come on thank you very much

[33:59] for

[34:14] coming good evening mayor Madam

[34:17] president city council I apologize for

[34:20] my tardiness we had an unforeseen um

[34:23] fire and development so I do apologize

[34:26] for that

[34:31] um next we have

[34:33] our mirac Freddy project which is the

[34:36] hand we now today have presenting before

[34:39] us the Hamilton Hill um Cooperative

[34:42] Association which is made up of some

[34:45] community service providers that are

[34:46] vested in keeping the Maran crate

[34:48] project in the hands of the community

[34:50] and they are presenting today asking us

[34:52] to reimagine what that Family Center

[34:54] will be so today we have brother Johan

[34:56] Matthews who will be presenting

[34:58] on behalf of the

[35:02] co-op thank you everybody I'm going to

[35:06] pass on

[35:09] yeah we have a printed version

[35:13] of should be enough for everybody at the

[35:26] table Carl and

[35:29] I he's good he's

[35:32] good all right all right now

[35:39] we're excellent so thank you for having

[35:43] us my name is Johan Matthews here to

[35:45] speak on behalf of the Hamilton Hill

[35:48] Community Cooperative so we're distinct

[35:50] from ml we saw their efforts we're

[35:54] inspired we were hoping to get involved

[35:56] once it was completed but but that leg

[35:58] of the journey has been completed and so

[36:00] we're here now looking what's going to

[36:02] happen moving forward now that this

[36:04] building's been returned and we know the

[36:06] community still needs this service so

[36:08] before we go into who we are as a

[36:11] Hamilton Hill Community Cooperative uh

[36:14] and this project idea reimagining that

[36:17] space in order to provide services as

[36:20] the Carver family community center I'd

[36:23] like to introduce you to

[36:25] Janet so this is Janet she's a ham Hill

[36:28] resident been there her whole life and

[36:31] she is well loved by the community great

[36:34] energy better smile people love her and

[36:38] uh she works parttime at Marshalls you

[36:40] know she doesn't have fulltime hours

[36:41] she's been wanting it for a while and

[36:43] she's going to school in the evening to

[36:46] be a nurse all right but lately she's

[36:48] been anxious in fact she's

[36:51] expecting and she's expecting and

[36:53] anxious because this is not her first

[36:56] child right me Lamar this is her first

[36:59] son this individual is energetic like

[37:02] his mother loves to draw just an awesome

[37:05] little kid but he spends most of his

[37:07] evenings uh at home playing video games

[37:10] while his mother has to run to the the

[37:13] school run to her job he's doing his

[37:16] thing at home exploring the world the

[37:18] video games at home right and she's also

[37:21] nervous about that but she's more

[37:23] nervous because his dad is not in the

[37:25] picture right nice young guy L but he's

[37:28] not there right they were young when

[37:31] they had him that passionate romance

[37:33] allowed U that passion relationship

[37:36] allowed romance but it also allowed a

[37:37] lot of arguments so Lamar spends his

[37:40] time at home with Grandma Joanne right

[37:42] here moved to to Hill in the '90s from

[37:44] the city for her family so that they can

[37:47] have a second chance right she's watched

[37:50] the community transformed over the last

[37:52] 20 years 30 years and she's watched her

[37:54] family grow up watching little Lamar

[37:57] from a baby until now now meet little

[38:00] Joelle right that's who Grandma spends

[38:02] her days watching they're waiting on a

[38:05] preschool or daycare waiting list to

[38:07] open up so she get get can get in there

[38:10] but right now Grandma's watching her all

[38:12] right and that's Stacy above Grandma

[38:15] she's the heart of the family she works

[38:17] as a medical billing specialist she

[38:20] dreams of having a Cookie Company you

[38:22] know so instead of dealing with cavities

[38:24] she'll cause them and but she doesn't

[38:26] know how she doesn't know how start a

[38:28] business you know how to deal with money

[38:30] that's Unk that's grandma Joann's um

[38:33] only son he just came home a few years

[38:36] ago and he is known as the wizard cuz

[38:40] he's a a local chess Grandmaster right

[38:43] so he loves to spend his days in Barber

[38:44] Shop playing chess dropping pearls

[38:46] studying philosophy but he can't get a

[38:49] job right everyone sees his character

[38:51] today he's on his best behavior but

[38:53] employers won't let him live down his

[38:55] Worst Behavior so look at this family

[38:58] this is a typical family H to hill now

[39:00] I'd like to introduce their Lifeline

[39:04] this is you're kind of Highly efficient

[39:07] nonprofit service provider providing

[39:11] very efficiently um needed services like

[39:13] food right local community members

[39:15] donate it they catch a cab have a ride

[39:19] come they go out to their Community they

[39:21] live in Hamilton Hill but they leave and

[39:23] go get this food from this Pantry they

[39:26] need this food these services and when

[39:29] they go there they feel as though

[39:30] they're getting some of what they need

[39:32] but they have to give so much they have

[39:34] to wait in line wait behind the glass

[39:36] tell their life story victimize

[39:37] themselves it's kind of a poor

[39:39] experience though they need they need

[39:41] help they don't feel needy right now I'd

[39:44] like to introduce the Carver Family

[39:46] Resource Center right so this is the

[39:48] vision that we're here to share this is

[39:51] a multi-stakeholder membership

[39:53] organization we've got a th Community

[39:55] member owners who walk in this building

[39:58] like they own it because literally they

[39:59] do and that's how they treat it whether

[40:02] they they for services around food or

[40:05] housing or dayare they are treated like

[40:08] they belong we also have investor

[40:10] members these are institutional

[40:12] investors like this connect Foundation

[40:14] or possibly the city who serve as a

[40:17] foundation for this initiative they've

[40:19] designed and seeded a trust that

[40:22] provides um income for the operations of

[40:26] this Center in perpetuity so they've

[40:29] seated a fund and that fund is in the

[40:31] trust and every year it gives out

[40:34] dividends to support this activity

[40:36] overall covering the cost within the

[40:39] first 5 to 7 years we've also got the

[40:42] service provider members many of which

[40:44] are assembled in this room but there in

[40:46] this case 10 members and they all have

[40:49] the resources they need to serve the ham

[40:52] Hill families so this is an ecosystem of

[40:56] family centered services

[40:57] right in the heart of ham Hill right in

[41:00] the heart of the craigman connection so

[41:02] when we look at this picture we see

[41:04] Janet who now has maternal care like

[41:07] adulla to help her ease those anxieties

[41:10] she feel about being a mother again

[41:13] right we've also got community father

[41:15] who can provide support groups and

[41:17] domestic violence training and anger

[41:19] management training to help LEL get back

[41:21] into the picture we've got after school

[41:24] program for little Lamar who can come

[41:27] and leverage his love for drawing maybe

[41:29] become the next Marshall Jones of SK all

[41:32] right provided by the art center we've

[41:34] got little Joel who is not going to be

[41:37] on the waiting list for preschool

[41:38] anymore she's going to be in um Sprouts

[41:41] daycare we're going to have a daycare on

[41:43] site and for Aunt Stacy she's going to

[41:46] learn how to start a business and manage

[41:47] her finances from uink to the economic

[41:50] artment Center we're going to have those

[41:52] resources to teach you about financial

[41:54] literacy as well as how to start a

[41:56] business and for an not only could he

[41:59] serve as a a coach and Mentor for many

[42:02] of the youth programs we'll have ring of

[42:03] ho boxing or uh electric swarm he can

[42:08] also get Workforce Development support

[42:10] when to start a business learn to build

[42:13] his trades and for Grandma instead of

[42:15] spending all her time taking care of

[42:17] others we have a food prep service

[42:20] providing healthy fresh meals for her

[42:23] okay so she can get off medication so we

[42:26] literally have have an ecosystem of

[42:28] services for the mothers who are

[42:31] expecting babies to the grandma Whois

[42:33] them that's what we're looking at so

[42:36] where are we now well as I mentioned

[42:38] we've established 10 service providers

[42:41] these are homegrown institutions that

[42:42] came out of the soil of skincity and

[42:44] they're here to support the people who

[42:47] already already support them already get

[42:49] support from them right so that's

[42:52] Community fathers the hamon Hill Arts

[42:54] Center you corporate um um we've got

[42:58] interest from the economic empowerment

[43:00] Center we've got this connect to the um

[43:02] City Ministry and the city Ministries

[43:05] and a few others right so we have 10 cor

[43:08] members who are nonprofit service

[43:09] providers who are going to be members of

[43:11] this Community Cooperative using the

[43:15] space to provide services in the heart

[43:17] of the community all right we're hoping

[43:20] to continue the campaign in the

[43:22] community to get up to a th000 community

[43:25] members we know over 500 people of sign

[43:27] petitions we have multiple pages of

[43:29] folks signing petitions we're going to

[43:31] ask 1,000 community members there's over

[43:33] 7,000 people in Hamilton Hill in Vil

[43:36] area to provide $100 to help Capital

[43:38] capitalize us right so ,000 of $100 next

[43:42] we're going to invite investor members

[43:45] between March and may we think and we've

[43:48] already had support from the skan

[43:50] foundation many of you guys might see

[43:52] the letter of support from them to join

[43:54] us as investor members he investor

[43:57] members or institutions who can provide

[43:59] ink kind support as well as financial

[44:01] support we're going to be asking for up

[44:03] to 150,000 from 10 of these guys and so

[44:06] maybe the average will be 100,000 so

[44:09] that's how we're looking to continue

[44:10] this journey we have the service

[44:12] provider members we know the community

[44:14] is is there to support this and next

[44:16] we're hoping to tap into the

[44:17] institutional community of which we have

[44:19] a lot of support from the scy

[44:21] foundation next step of course after

[44:24] this communication today we're hoping to

[44:27] fire Carver and work together with the

[44:29] city values align developers to make

[44:32] this happen not with Jo matchs but for

[44:35] the ham Hill families right they need it

[44:38] so if we can work together I'm sure we

[44:40] can figure it out uh between March this

[44:43] year and June

[44:45] 2025 that's almost a year a little over

[44:48] here sorry we can make this happen

[44:50] according to the quotes from the

[44:51] contractors it's about 6 months for the

[44:54] construction to be completed once they

[44:56] get started

[44:57] this is just based in correspondence

[44:58] I've seen so that building could be

[45:01] stabilized by December if we wanted to

[45:04] however obviously nothing works so

[45:06] perfectly and they're saying if it's not

[45:08] fixed by some parts of it not

[45:11] stabilized uh some parts won't make it

[45:13] through the winter so I know there's a

[45:15] sense of urgency there and the bill is

[45:17] on the historic register so the final

[45:20] step of course looking to end of next

[45:22] year we to formalize our offerings as

[45:26] this communities cooperative and open

[45:30] the doors as the Hamilton Hill Community

[45:33] Co-op and and offer the services we

[45:35] mentioned for the Parson's family so

[45:37] that's the next step so what's this cost

[45:41] start up on you guys all have do

[45:43] proposal you know that the lowest bids

[45:46] for the project came in at around 2.9

[45:48] Million for construction so that

[45:51] includes everything but maybe by um some

[45:53] smaller details uh commercial kitchen

[45:55] and things like that so we have a little

[45:57] bit of a build out there for that

[45:59] commercial kitchens can run anywhere 40

[46:02] to 200 for you know very extravagant so

[46:05] we just put that in there cushion maybe

[46:07] a security system like a fob system

[46:10] every member gets a little fob in and

[46:12] out we know who's in and 10% for working

[46:14] capital to support the operations over

[46:17] that first three or four years so that

[46:20] total is about

[46:21] $3.5 million to start up sources we know

[46:26] the city of SK has previously allocated

[46:28] $1.2 million to this project we're going

[46:31] to ask that you continue that allocation

[46:33] right we know the community needs it we

[46:35] know we need to spend the money I think

[46:37] it's a match next the hamton hill

[46:40] Community co-ops members as I mentioned

[46:42] we have three classes of members we have

[46:44] the residential members people who live

[46:46] in Hamilton hill we have the service

[46:49] provider members these homegrown

[46:51] institutions providing these needed

[46:52] services and as well as our investor uh

[46:56] institutional investors members who can

[46:57] help us design and see the trust so that

[47:00] we can perpetually benefit from that

[47:02] trust and have a self-sustaining program

[47:05] in addition to the the grants and so on

[47:08] that these 10 organizations are used to

[47:10] attracting these are you know relatively

[47:13] well-known organizations despite being

[47:15] underresourced we also are looking at an

[47:18] office of Child and Family Services

[47:20] grant for child care when the child care

[47:23] is needed in the community they're

[47:25] homebased providers but this can be a

[47:27] way to support that so we partner with

[47:29] the art center submit a $1.5 million

[47:32] application we looking for about

[47:34] $750,000 finally CF The Cooperative fund

[47:38] of the Northeast I'm affiliated with

[47:40] this fund and I help form and financed

[47:43] cooperatives across the country they can

[47:45] provide up to $2 million per deal we

[47:48] probably looking for a $500,000 line of

[47:50] credit and if we can get less um we

[47:54] probably go less because you know we

[47:55] don't want to start with de debt

[47:58] probably around 5% 5 and 12% so that's

[48:01] what we're dealing with there this is

[48:04] some of the monthly expenses right now

[48:06] this is what folks can expect to pay for

[48:08] their current programming so you know

[48:11] that's about $7,000 a month as far as

[48:13] what folks are used to paying for their

[48:14] real estate we want to save folks money

[48:17] right they're sharing this space making

[48:19] ownership more accessible because

[48:20] they're sharing it additionally we'd

[48:23] want to provide other services like

[48:25] shared bookkeeping shared accounting

[48:27] shared marketing the more money we save

[48:29] these groups the more money they have to

[48:32] support this initiative and provide

[48:33] services to the community on the expense

[48:37] side we know we're going to see staff

[48:39] we're hoping to initially start with a

[48:40] community manager someone who could deal

[48:42] with the internal Community make sure

[48:44] everyone has what they need the

[48:45] temperature is right if Halls are swept

[48:48] we'll have an office manager you know

[48:50] collecting rent keeping the books in

[48:52] order both part-time initially

[48:54] increasing over time you take ities and

[48:58] internet we use some commercial real

[49:00] estate averages 2.1 $210 per square foot

[49:05] multiply that by the 20,000 s ft and we

[49:09] get these numbers as well as property

[49:11] main maintenance we use other industry

[49:13] averages 2.3 times the 20,000 ft to get

[49:17] that number for insurance fill out an

[49:20] application online using one of those

[49:21] services to spit out a quote around 800

[49:24] a month we can probably do around up to

[49:27] a th000 some

[49:29] comparable uh organizations that I've

[49:31] called and got cours for give me their

[49:33] number problem maxent out about,

[49:36] month so sustainability plan as I

[49:40] mentioned we're hoping to get working

[49:43] capital or Operational Support 100,000

[49:47] split over the next 3 4 years that we

[49:49] also get usage fees we can probably

[49:53] expect at Max Capacity to get $84,000 as

[49:56] a say 70,000 a month for the you know

[49:59] couple of organizations in there but we

[50:01] assume a 50% usage rate so we say

[50:04] 42,000 if we see a fund for

[50:08] $150,000 right one of our investors or

[50:10] multiple can do so help us design and

[50:12] see the fund at 7% average return that's

[50:16] $10,000 a year one so we can get that to

[50:19] get the ball rolling next up space

[50:21] rental this is just community members

[50:23] who want to access the space Maybe host

[50:25] a tournament whatever the case is we get

[50:27] three or four of those 250 or so you

[50:31] know we put it in

[50:32] there and um all the expenses are

[50:36] basically self-explanatory for marketing

[50:39] we're looking to maybe do a documentary

[50:41] year one to show the community this

[50:43] model of cooperation to show this story

[50:46] we think it could be a powerful story

[50:48] and then regular Market materials

[50:50] supplies is miscellaneous toilet paper

[50:52] ink so on Professional Services for Year

[50:55] One this will be a lawyer to help us

[50:58] design the Trust In collaboration with

[51:00] our Institutional Investor members we

[51:02] already have a lawyer we're working with

[51:04] but you know a trust simple trust could

[51:07] range from

[51:08] $6,000 all the way up to 10,000 for a

[51:11] very complicated one we're just trying

[51:13] to do something that would make sense

[51:15] and then finally interest only payments

[51:17] under lineing

[51:20] credit so year two these cost just

[51:23] continue to increase if we get two more

[51:25] investors in that F and that fund that

[51:28] we want to do that uh undividable

[51:30] reserves we can get you know 500,000 7%

[51:33] of that 35,000 that's helping us to get

[51:36] to Brick

[51:37] even by year three we've broken even

[51:41] we've earned

[51:43] 234,000 expenses

[51:45] 215,000 obviously this is best case

[51:48] scenario and the numbers are very

[51:49] conservative we'll be looking to reduce

[51:52] costs using um ecoe efficiency measures

[51:56] such as LED bulbs um we want to do um

[52:00] solar panels we want to do automatic

[52:02] shut offs things like that all these

[52:05] basic things and my company is involved

[52:08] with a few of these types of um

[52:10] proposals through nerto and so on so we

[52:13] think we could take advantage of that

[52:14] and try to figure that piece out uh

[52:16] potential Partners all of these guys

[52:19] have demonstrated some support in the

[52:21] past to this or something like this the

[52:24] CDs connected 1.2 Metroplex

[52:27] 150,000 seeing you know what folks

[52:30] desire to continue to support this

[52:32] second leg of the journey would be and

[52:35] see what's going on as we said the

[52:37] building is in the heart of the craigman

[52:38] connection we've seen a lot of support

[52:41] from tono and Santa Barbara at the

[52:42] political level and recently we even saw

[52:44] Santa Barbara supporting myai who was at

[52:47] risk of leaving because you know they

[52:49] had a building that was uh facing some

[52:52] disrepair so we think there's a lot of

[52:54] precedent for support around Community

[52:57] Center especially a homegrown one like

[52:59] Harver that has such significance

[53:02] historically connect to the county we

[53:04] have friends over there who we think

[53:06] will be supportive of this and we'll

[53:07] rely on you guys to help us to connect

[53:09] to that the conected foundation I

[53:11] mention we already have a letter of

[53:13] support from them and a desire to

[53:15] connect us to the philanthropic

[53:17] community in the capital region

[53:19] literally around table going into the

[53:21] room pitching this many funders at once

[53:24] to see who would be interested in

[53:25] joining into the

[53:27] so that's the right Community Foundation

[53:29] Capal region many others we think

[53:31] there's interest or could be interest

[53:33] from the steart foundation business for

[53:35] good already had to line out for this so

[53:38] we're queued up for a conversation from

[53:39] them the T Foundation has supported the

[53:42] um restorative justice housing fund

[53:44] providing millions of dollars to Black

[53:46] and low-income homeowners in the capital

[53:48] region so we think they'd be queued up

[53:50] for this friends with that program and

[53:54] uh and a few others that I've mentioned

[53:56] as as well as a few community

[53:58] development financial institutions

[54:00] Community Loan Fund C region I used to

[54:02] be a technical assistance provider there

[54:04] they're less activist connect but

[54:06] they're part of the original deal I'm

[54:07] sure we can have a conversation and the

[54:09] Cooperative front which I'm currently

[54:11] affiliated with providing Finance or

[54:14] access to finance to emerging

[54:15] communities across the

[54:17] country so right now with the 1.2 that

[54:20] the city already had allocated for this

[54:23] project all of what's on the screen is

[54:26] possible

[54:27] all abatement of hazardous materials all

[54:31] demolition of unneeded materials and

[54:34] systems finished installation of new

[54:36] electrical service and installing

[54:38] temporary lighting owering the building

[54:40] s new tours and inspections and so on

[54:43] all roof repairs and Replacements all

[54:46] sight improvements fa fencing landscape

[54:50] Asal gravel pavement

[54:52] stripping um exterior and interior

[54:55] masonry work and repairs including new

[54:58] doorways where needed exterior slabs for

[55:02] mechanical equipment all window repairs

[55:06] and Replacements all exterior door

[55:09] repairs and Replacements renovation of a

[55:12] bathroom by the back door renovation of

[55:14] the

[55:15] auditorium and so on so quite a lot is

[55:18] already possible if we come together

[55:21] even more is possible so that's the

[55:24] point of this entire uh

[55:27] effort I welcome your

[55:32] questions thank Mr barley so first of I

[55:36] like to appreciate the way you frame

[55:37] that sometimes we get caught up in our

[55:39] thinking around the project and we

[55:41] forget that the project was really about

[55:43] people um so I I I I can appreciate that

[55:46] I wanted to um ask a question as you're

[55:48] looking at taking on Partners um I know

[55:51] that there's talks of uh other Community

[55:54] Partners just in the swirling of

[55:56] interested um and you're uh it seems

[55:59] like this group is actually looking to

[56:01] collaborate with other uh stakeholders

[56:03] in order to sustain um in order for

[56:06] sustainability that's that's correct

[56:08] right yeah we're happy to collaborate

[56:10] with any values aligned in investor

[56:13] service provider and developer and when

[56:16] we say values Line Community centered

[56:19] creating a sense of ownership for the

[56:21] community providing a new model so we

[56:23] think anyone who's open to that

[56:25] certainly someone you're willing to work

[56:27] with thank

[56:30] you so this will not be a 501c3 that it

[56:34] will be a

[56:35] Cooperative so there's two ways to think

[56:38] of this one is the character of the

[56:40] business you can be cooperative in

[56:43] nature because we're all engaged in this

[56:46] decision- making process in a one Member

[56:48] One vote right you can do so as a

[56:51] nonprofit as a for-profit and then you

[56:53] can think about the actual entity form

[56:56] right right whether it's a nonprofit

[56:57] for-profit or cooperative Corporation

[57:00] you can create the entity to suit the

[57:04] financial environment if the people with

[57:06] the problem can pay for it that's a

[57:09] business if the people with a problem

[57:11] can't pay for it that's a nonprofit

[57:13] right with the co-op we're going to pay

[57:16] to solve this problem together right

[57:18] like the food co-op they have their

[57:21] customers built-in that's their members

[57:23] with a residential Co-op they have their

[57:26] um customers built in that's their

[57:27] renters or their residential owners with

[57:29] a worker cop they have the labor built

[57:32] in and so on so forth so we can choose

[57:34] an entity form that's conducive to

[57:36] whatever the environment is and we're

[57:38] working on that right now with a lawyer

[57:40] okay thank

[57:41] you Mr Williams uh first I just wanted

[57:45] to to point out I very much appreciate

[57:47] the way in which you started your

[57:48] presentation uh I think uh hearing it U

[57:51] framed in that way accurately put the appropriate level of importance on

[57:56] ensuring that this project sees sees a

[57:58] fair opportunity uh one of the points I

[58:01] wanted to to ask at to uh and I thought

[58:03] it was a a very good point that you made

[58:06] you identified that the starting of

[58:09] construction uh conservative or not

[58:11] conservative but uh if we started now it

[58:13] would uh consist of March 2024 to June

[58:17] of 2025 is that correct be less than

[58:20] that 6 months is what you know the bid

[58:23] says so but you know perfect conditions

[58:26] obviously is what they're thinking um

[58:28] but the point I wanted to highlight is

[58:30] uh you identifi just the continuation of

[58:32] no renovations being conducted this

[58:34] building going through another winter

[58:36] exactly from your conversations would

[58:38] you mind expanding on that so all I have

[58:41] are corresponding snapshots delivered uh

[58:45] from the architect and the construction

[58:47] documents pertaining to that to the city

[58:50] and to you know the previous holders of

[58:53] the Baton so you know the correspondence

[58:56] is all with the city and I can kind of

[58:58] reference that but that's all I know

[59:00] that there's a suspect there's an

[59:02] opinion that the building certain

[59:04] aspects of it will not last probably

[59:06] roof and these types of things so the

[59:09] construction details are all with the

[59:10] city at this point but I think it's safe

[59:13] to surise that just that the Coster is

[59:15] going to continue to Skyrock longer that

[59:17] this building exists in its current

[59:19] condition um the cost of doing nothing

[59:21] now is definitely more substantial than

[59:24] the opportunity to do something buy

[59:27] absolutely um I did want to focus on the

[59:30] sources for the projected startup cost

[59:33] uh you identified in the Hamilton Hill

[59:36] of community collaborative that the

[59:38] members would uh consist of1 million

[59:43] $110,000 do you have a timeline for how

[59:45] you start yeah so we already have this

[59:49] 10 service providers that we think are

[59:50] core each of them could do a buying of

[59:52] $1,000

[59:54] $10,000 then we believe a ,000 community

[59:56] members over 600 or so have already

[59:59] demonstrated support of this we go to

[1:00:01] that list and we try to get the next 400

[1:00:04] each of them given $100 they can pay it

[1:00:07] over the course of several months if

[1:00:08] they needed to but that's what it would

[1:00:10] take they've already signed a petition

[1:00:12] so ,000 then we go to up to 10

[1:00:15] Institutional Investor members within

[1:00:18] the cical region Community to provide up

[1:00:21] to

[1:00:22] $150,000 assuming the average will be

[1:00:25] 100,000 some be less whatever that's 10

[1:00:27] at 100,000 that's a million that's 1,000

[1:00:30] people at $100 that's $100,000 and

[1:00:33] that's 10 service providers at 1,000

[1:00:36] that's

[1:00:37] $1,110,000

[1:00:39] and if you had to assign a a date to

[1:00:42] that or a time line gotta yeah I would

[1:00:44] say over the next 3 months we're going

[1:00:46] to get cooking on that and obviously

[1:00:48] we'll continue to campaing throughout

[1:00:50] the year you think the sense of urgency

[1:00:52] is going to drive people to action and

[1:00:55] see if it's possible

[1:00:57] Mr M yeah just follow on that you you

[1:00:59] mentioned about having 10 core members

[1:01:02] at

[1:01:03] $100,000 100,000 is that correct 10 core

[1:01:06] members the service providers yes that'

[1:01:09] be 10,000 also 1,000 each yeah so is

[1:01:12] that a you mentioned petition or is

[1:01:13] there a commitment letter from from

[1:01:15] these individuals or agencies we are all

[1:01:19] committed um we're creating the

[1:01:21] coroporation right now we don't you know

[1:01:23] have a memorandum of understanding

[1:01:25] between ourselves but we're showing up

[1:01:26] every week meeting and you know a lot of

[1:01:28] them are in the room right now they can

[1:01:30] speak for themselves happy to

[1:01:32] demonstrate that commitment yeah so you

[1:01:35] mentioned about creating this entity now

[1:01:37] you're in the process of doing that so

[1:01:38] it's not finalized it yet and you are

[1:01:42] not sure if it's going to be a non

[1:01:44] for-profit or a for-profit entity at

[1:01:46] this point in time we have two options

[1:01:48] on the table obviously it could be uh

[1:01:52] for-profit Cooperative Corporation sub

[1:01:54] CH te or or it could be a 501 C12 kind

[1:01:58] of a variation on the C3 model the

[1:02:00] charitable nonprofit and this would

[1:02:02] again just be based on making sure we

[1:02:04] can do everything we want to do uh

[1:02:06] within the context and within the

[1:02:08] financial environment so those are the

[1:02:11] two options we have we just have to kind

[1:02:12] of vot to move forward we do have the

[1:02:14] lawyer we do believe we can get the EXP

[1:02:16] that in so I was going ask that it's

[1:02:19] something that you should exp if you

[1:02:22] power yeah and the you know 10

[1:02:24] organizations are establish nonprofits

[1:02:27] and for-profit business if we needed a

[1:02:29] fiscal sponsor we have that you know

[1:02:31] that's pretty typical but yes you're

[1:02:33] right we have to choose one and we're in

[1:02:35] the process of doing so yeah you also

[1:02:37] mentioned about the Grant from ocfs are

[1:02:40] they paperwork in or are you just

[1:02:42] exploring that so we included the

[1:02:46] deadline for the application and you

[1:02:48] know Rachel could speak a little bit to

[1:02:50] submit sorry planning to submit plan to

[1:02:53] submit and the next one the letter of

[1:02:55] credit are you doing the same in terms

[1:02:57] of getting the paperwork in yeah yeah

[1:02:59] I've already spoken to the loan officer

[1:03:01] and we're kind of exploring that piece

[1:03:05] already and the reason why I mentioned

[1:03:07] it because we're looking at you

[1:03:09] mentioned the lowest bet at

[1:03:11] 2.9 and you're estimating a total

[1:03:13] completion of 3.56 million yeah so the

[1:03:16] shortfall is about you know significant

[1:03:19] amount so that is where my question is

[1:03:21] coming in in terms of the hhcc members

[1:03:24] getting a commitment from them

[1:03:27] and not only a beer petition or a letter

[1:03:30] or an email or a text that they going to

[1:03:32] do that it's more someone need to make a

[1:03:35] formal commitment in terms of these

[1:03:37] funding because these are critical

[1:03:38] funding to complete this project MH yeah

[1:03:42] and of course you know I agree with that

[1:03:45] um I would say the 50 years the art

[1:03:48] Center's been here is a commitment 20

[1:03:50] years from Community fathers is a

[1:03:52] commitment we're very much committed to

[1:03:54] this many of these groups well

[1:03:56] respective organizations are working

[1:03:58] with the executives you know making less

[1:04:00] than what we believe is the moderate

[1:04:02] income you know what I mean so the

[1:04:04] commitment is there but we will get it

[1:04:05] in writing you're absolutely right now

[1:04:07] you didn't mention sorry you didn't

[1:04:09] mention a list of U foundations are you

[1:04:12] reaching out to them or are you sending

[1:04:13] formal letters to bring them on board as

[1:04:16] being um FAL Partners yes and we've

[1:04:19] already gotten a letter of support from

[1:04:22] the skan foundation in writing and that

[1:04:25] will be kind of a catalyst as we know

[1:04:28] the foundation is a catalyst and Bob has

[1:04:31] already volunteered to start to connect

[1:04:33] us to that founding round table that I

[1:04:35] mentioned before they meet a few times a

[1:04:37] year so we're going to be queued up for

[1:04:39] that however that plays out as well as

[1:04:41] oneon-one conversations with each of

[1:04:44] funders that we have listed so I've

[1:04:46] already reached out to many of them some

[1:04:47] of them you know obviously we need to

[1:04:50] have some measure of assurance from the

[1:04:52] city we're not looking to be across the

[1:04:54] table from you guys we going be looking

[1:04:56] at this problem together moving forward

[1:04:58] together so as long as that's you know

[1:05:01] the path to beginning that conversation

[1:05:03] is clear I think we're going to be full

[1:05:05] seee just just a follow I'm going to go

[1:05:08] back to the registration if you were to

[1:05:10] put a timeline on that can you put a

[1:05:14] timeline on that because I know it's

[1:05:15] very important that you register this

[1:05:16] entity oh for the registration a

[1:05:19] timeline on that seeing how important it

[1:05:22] is yeah um I would say right now we're

[1:05:25] mid March the goal is to have that

[1:05:27] buttoned up by May so that'll be the

[1:05:30] timeline next 3 months but certainly

[1:05:32] before that we'll be completed if we

[1:05:34] decided to do an LLC which is very

[1:05:37] possible um and still having the

[1:05:39] nonprofit members just have an ownership

[1:05:41] in that that's done next week right so

[1:05:44] there's there's certain things we can do

[1:05:46] quickly and certain things that will

[1:05:47] take time we have a very experienced

[1:05:49] Cooperative lawyer as well as you know

[1:05:51] I'm very familiar with with this process

[1:05:54] so can you can you speak to I know that

[1:05:56] there was another group that was taking

[1:05:58] this and then um you were trying to

[1:06:00] partner didn't exactly work out so can

[1:06:01] you kind of speak to the time when you

[1:06:04] picked up to where you are now because

[1:06:05] it seems pretty you've done a

[1:06:07] significant amount of work in that time

[1:06:09] frame so can you speak to since we

[1:06:10] started organizing this again in

[1:06:13] anticipation of supporting the fruits of

[1:06:16] their labor we were already tuned in now

[1:06:19] we just realized we had to come together

[1:06:21] given the unfortunate nature of the

[1:06:23] relinquished property um so over the

[1:06:26] last month or two is when we've been

[1:06:28] formally organizing pulling these quotes

[1:06:31] letting people know about this so that's where we've been we're also

[1:06:34] trying to learn from them you know we

[1:06:36] want to be as open as possible we want

[1:06:38] everyone to know they have a seat if

[1:06:40] their values aligned obviously and

[1:06:42] committed to the community at this table

[1:06:44] and that we can do this together so we

[1:06:46] trying to learn from them we respect

[1:06:48] what they've done we think it's been a

[1:06:50] admirable effort it's brought attention

[1:06:52] to this it's brought a sense of

[1:06:54] possibility and um yeah that's that's

[1:06:57] how we connect to it new new do you have

[1:06:59] something to follow no I think you

[1:07:01] better

[1:07:02] much any other questions or um so I just

[1:07:06] want to be clear your your ask is you

[1:07:09] can articulate your ask so the ask would

[1:07:12] be a pathway to ownership for the

[1:07:14] building right again we see this as a

[1:07:16] city problem shared problem this

[1:07:18] neighborhood's going to feel the burnt

[1:07:19] of that impact and first Ral refusal

[1:07:23] right if we want to do something else

[1:07:24] cuz again these these are all extent

[1:07:26] nonprofit service providers I would say

[1:07:28] homegrown institutions places where

[1:07:31] people feel at home receiving the

[1:07:32] services they need and we also are

[1:07:35] asking for continued allocation of the

[1:07:39] $1.2 million previously allocated and to

[1:07:43] do so on a basis of non-reimbursement so

[1:07:47] whether it's a progress invoicing or

[1:07:50] upfront we aren't capitalized well

[1:07:52] enough to spend money to be reimbursed

[1:07:54] so we don't want it under basis as well

[1:07:56] as matching we're not going to be able

[1:07:58] to raise money to get the money that we

[1:08:01] already raised you know so we're asking

[1:08:03] for it to be allocated without those two

[1:08:06] constraints because they're unsuitable

[1:08:08] for us as a group trying to engage this

[1:08:10] project and finally we're asking for you

[1:08:13] guys to partner with us to make this

[1:08:18] happen so you the way you explained it

[1:08:21] the

[1:08:22] 1.250 um would be used just for the next

[1:08:26] 6 months to get the building online is

[1:08:28] that do I understand that properly yes

[1:08:30] to make sure this building doesn't

[1:08:32] become more expensive to fix and that's

[1:08:34] how you would looking to spend that

[1:08:37] allocation

[1:08:38] okay other questions yes Mr Williams I

[1:08:41] think final question and I very much

[1:08:42] appreciate your optimism and definitely

[1:08:44] it identifies uh a clear need and I

[1:08:47] don't think that is something that is

[1:08:48] debatable uh that's was highlighted

[1:08:50] through the your your narrative at the

[1:08:51] beginning um would you mind just

[1:08:53] identifying what you think your biggest

[1:08:55] obst or hurdle will

[1:08:56] be yeah I think a lot of us don't know

[1:09:00] what we don't know right you start

[1:09:02] digging up that building all of a sudden

[1:09:04] you know you you uncover some ancestral

[1:09:06] barrier grage something right it's

[1:09:08] haunted who knows so I think just

[1:09:10] there's a lot of things we don't know

[1:09:12] individually right we have a lot of

[1:09:14] Gusto a lot of capacity but we're

[1:09:17] underresourced so if we can partner with

[1:09:20] other folks like the city who's also you

[1:09:22] know facing certain Shaw Falls or

[1:09:24] whatever the cas is but has a lot of

[1:09:25] capacity in other places we can fill in

[1:09:28] the puzzle so I think just not having it

[1:09:30] all by ourselves is the obstacle and the

[1:09:33] cooperation is a solution thank

[1:09:37] you one

[1:09:39] more I think we mentioned a lot of uh

[1:09:41] foundation and and entities I didn't see

[1:09:44] you mention anything about going to the

[1:09:45] county or have a county here as a

[1:09:47] partner have you approached a county to

[1:09:51] this project yes so uh Omar mcel

[1:09:54] supportive of the project and we know

[1:09:57] that there was an effort previously to

[1:09:59] align County um interest in this and so

[1:10:02] we'd want to continue to shake those

[1:10:03] trees again I'm sure a lot of you guys

[1:10:05] are familiar with pokes over there and

[1:10:07] how things work so maybe you can help us

[1:10:09] out as

[1:10:13] well uh any other questions or anybody

[1:10:15] else hear any speaker your do anyone

[1:10:18] like to say

[1:10:20] anything I think that he said everything

[1:10:22] that needed to be said you think that he

[1:10:24] said everything okay

[1:10:25] you know but I just want to just say

[1:10:27] then then you do want to say

[1:10:29] something let me just say something

[1:10:32] because I think that even as a community

[1:10:35] resident this is so important to the

[1:10:37] heart of our community this is like a

[1:10:39] heartbeat of our community it has been

[1:10:42] it's always been and right now to walk

[1:10:44] by and see it in the shape that it's in

[1:10:47] and it's sitting empty you know it's

[1:10:49] like a blight besides that I think that

[1:10:52] the fact that we're moving towards

[1:10:54] Cooper

[1:10:56] it would be beautiful if uh many of us

[1:10:58] nonprofits had the kind of money that we

[1:11:01] could just go and buy a building and

[1:11:03] make it happen but we we don't have it

[1:11:06] like that and the fact is that we're

[1:11:08] dealing with a principle I I heard you

[1:11:10] ask to ask people about certain things

[1:11:12] about a value system and a value system

[1:11:15] that we're putting into this is

[1:11:17] cooperative economics and Collective

[1:11:19] work and

[1:11:20] responsibility these are two of the

[1:11:23] seven principles that we deal with when

[1:11:25] we deal with the whole thing of Quant

[1:11:28] and the principles that we try to bring

[1:11:30] to improve our community Through um

[1:11:33] creativity to leave it better than it

[1:11:35] was and also to it's about our city

[1:11:39] showing the type of efforts it makes to

[1:11:43] make sure that the community is involved

[1:11:46] we are very uh Innovative place here in

[1:11:49] skty when I go places and I speak and I

[1:11:52] speak on SKC people have never heard a

[1:11:56] city that does some of the things that

[1:11:58] is being done here in terms of its

[1:12:01] Outreach and the way it brings in a

[1:12:03] collectiveness of bringing people

[1:12:05] together and I think this is also

[1:12:08] something that will show that and show

[1:12:11] our community because the community

[1:12:13] wants to see something that it help

[1:12:16] create and I think this is as a resource

[1:12:19] Cent this is really just uh going to

[1:12:22] take it to the next level of the 21st

[1:12:24] Century

[1:12:25] that's all I have to

[1:12:27] say thank

[1:12:29] you any other questions oh Mr far yes

[1:12:33] with the p uh so I know that um uh the

[1:12:36] previous group that was kind of leading

[1:12:38] this effort you know um something that

[1:12:41] they did do extremely well was uh going

[1:12:43] out and getting signatures for over 500

[1:12:46] residents that lived in the immediate

[1:12:48] area um so um I can appreciate how this

[1:12:52] uh project is is still in the space of

[1:12:55] what the community was explicit about

[1:12:57] them wanting um so I think that you

[1:13:01] know that's really important to

[1:13:02] highlight and as well as you being

[1:13:04] willing to be responsible to the needs

[1:13:06] of community but also being um willing

[1:13:08] to um welcome other partners on to help

[1:13:11] out with um some of this you know the issues around sustainability and and

[1:13:16] as a council I just welcome us to kind

[1:13:18] of consider the fact I think to Madame

[1:13:20] president's Point earlier really to her

[1:13:21] question um is that this is um not

[1:13:25] necessarily Community problem but a

[1:13:27] community opportunity that's been

[1:13:29] presented in a really really tight

[1:13:31] timeline based on the circumstances that

[1:13:34] uh uh the last group um found themselves

[1:13:36] in so to pick this up you know you're

[1:13:38] really not starting from zero here

[1:13:40] you're building on what's already there

[1:13:41] and it's still responsible to need to

[1:13:43] the community so just kind of want to

[1:13:44] highlight that absolutely we're a

[1:13:47] distinct group from that group but we

[1:13:49] are continuing a legacy a legacy that

[1:13:51] has inspired the community so thank you

[1:13:53] guys for your time take you thank you

[1:14:02] thank our final pres presentation is

[1:14:05] from um about the Empowerment Center

[1:14:08] brother Ron Gardner our affirmative

[1:14:10] action officer he is presenting today

[1:14:14] asking city council to reconsider the

[1:14:18] arle funds that were allocated

[1:14:21] towards Maurice just threw me off I'm so

[1:14:23] sorry uh

[1:14:26] for Mr Garner did not submit one today

[1:14:29] Maurice thank you he's looking to have

[1:14:31] the funds reallocated for the rehab of

[1:14:33] the Empowerment Center on Albany Street

[1:14:37] um to programming over the next three

[1:14:38] years so Mr Ron

[1:14:45] Garner good afternoon good evening

[1:14:47] council members mayor SC gas um that was a powerful uh presentation I

[1:14:55] want to set that right the gate and we

[1:14:58] talking about the economic empowerment

[1:15:00] Center and and I'll just say coming

[1:15:02] right out that's exactly the same

[1:15:04] mission and vision that we've had for

[1:15:06] the past four years in terms of working

[1:15:08] on ctive effort creating uh ecosystem if

[1:15:12] you will so I'm totally 100% in support

[1:15:15] of what they're proposing here and

[1:15:17] working with them to uh to make this

[1:15:20] happen and what I had specifically asked

[1:15:22] for was we were allocated uh some funds

[1:15:25] to

[1:15:26] uh redevelop 818 Aly Street and I was a

[1:15:30] with the cause of construction and

[1:15:32] getting that whole ecosystem up up the

[1:15:34] line you know that's not uh going to

[1:15:36] happen that's that's not working but but

[1:15:39] I had you know proposal here in terms of

[1:15:42] what we want to do with all our Pro

[1:15:44] program and to that you know creating

[1:15:47] job opportunities uh creating business

[1:15:50] capacity and growing the capacity and

[1:15:52] also developing a pipeline of a work for

[1:15:55] to come to us within the City by way of

[1:15:57] the public safety you know police fire

[1:16:00] and all of the other departments that we

[1:16:01] have within uh our ecosystem within this

[1:16:04] building so so with that

[1:16:07] said uh I I would love to work with this

[1:16:10] group because uh I think this is so

[1:16:12] critically important to uh to really

[1:16:15] make this happen and if we're going to

[1:16:17] be serious and really make a difference

[1:16:20] in the lives of our community I think

[1:16:22] it's laid out and we see these uh

[1:16:24] examples every day when we go out there

[1:16:26] on the streets and we talk to people and

[1:16:28] I tell folks all the time everybody come

[1:16:31] a lot of people come out every day and

[1:16:33] they're so happy to be in this city but

[1:16:35] they're really in in a desperate State

[1:16:38] and we need to figure out how do we make

[1:16:40] a difference how can we utilize the

[1:16:42] resources in this once in a-lifetime

[1:16:44] opportunity that we have because this is

[1:16:46] truly once in a lifetime and and I would

[1:16:49] certainly you know asked the the counsel

[1:16:52] and um allow opportunity to work you

[1:16:56] know with these groups and others but in

[1:16:58] the Cooperative effort because that's our whole mission is how do we

[1:17:01] create uh the capacity how do we create

[1:17:03] job opportunities and how do we create

[1:17:05] more home buyers and Home Ownership with

[1:17:07] our community and that's really what you

[1:17:10] know what it's all about and that's

[1:17:12] where my heart has been and I'm sure

[1:17:14] that's where I know Dr Walters I I know

[1:17:17] him so but anyway that's that's that's

[1:17:20] where I'm at so

[1:17:21] um I I'll leave at that that's just get

[1:17:25] any question or whatever yes um you

[1:17:28] really weren't explicit on what you

[1:17:29] would like us from the council though

[1:17:32] well specifically what I want to do is

[1:17:34] reallocate the funds that I had that

[1:17:37] were going toward the construction of

[1:17:39] 818 and I want to mooved that into

[1:17:41] programming and when I talked about

[1:17:43] programming I had it broke out into the

[1:17:45] categories of small business support um

[1:17:49] Workforce Development and also

[1:17:51] developing a pipeline of a Workforce to

[1:17:55] uh come into the the city for by way the

[1:17:57] fire department police department and

[1:17:59] other agencies within the city so those

[1:18:01] be you know basic categories that I have

[1:18:04] U outlined

[1:18:08] there um

[1:18:10] so do you have a a written plan for us

[1:18:12] that we could you know we be able to

[1:18:15] take a look at that yeah yeah yes I I I have a plan I thought that uh it was

[1:18:20] submitted but anyway I'll I'll give that

[1:18:21] to you and and again I would like to you

[1:18:25] know take time to modify it to reflect

[1:18:28] um you know what we you know you know

[1:18:30] what we learning here and how we can uh

[1:18:33] you know you know make a difference and

[1:18:34] make it

[1:18:35] happen WIS C so we have nothing I do not

[1:18:39] have a plan unless you're ref to the

[1:18:41] plan that should presented early on to

[1:18:43] city council but not just for this

[1:18:46] reallocation exactly okay so Madam

[1:18:50] president Mr F so you might have been on

[1:18:54] the same kind of page time so basically

[1:18:56] um there there will be a a plan and

[1:18:58] you're saying that based on some of the

[1:19:00] information that you heard today you'd

[1:19:01] like the opportunity to kind of um

[1:19:04] revamp some of that to see what it

[1:19:06] naturally aligns with some of the other

[1:19:08] Reed today know

[1:19:11] so miss

[1:19:15] car so how much funding are we talking

[1:19:17] about this point time I think it's we

[1:19:19] need to be clear about dollar

[1:19:22] $875,000 was what was allocated what was

[1:19:25] allocated and some of that's been spent

[1:19:28] 53,000

[1:19:29] roughly

[1:19:31] okay and

[1:19:33] so so you're you're asking us to take

[1:19:36] the the balance of that the 800 and uh

[1:19:39] whatever it is um to all towards

[1:19:44] programming over the next three

[1:19:47] [Applause]

[1:19:50] years no I just was looking at my notes

[1:19:53] the remaining balances is $823,000

[1:20:24] what they're doing to some level and so

[1:20:28] they're asking for more money as well so

[1:20:29] we're definitely going to have to look

[1:20:30] at this not necessarily together but

[1:20:33] we're going to have to look at that big

[1:20:33] po of funding all at once we we just

[1:20:35] don't have any other money so

[1:20:39] um again there's there's nothing but

[1:20:42] tonight so for clarity Mr Gardner with

[1:20:44] city council you want me to resubmit

[1:20:46] what was submitted the last time you

[1:20:48] came and spoke on programming in the

[1:20:51] Empowerment Center the city council

[1:20:53] which was last month sometime right so so I want to revise that okay

[1:20:58] to to work more collaborative you know

[1:21:01] with this group so we have a more

[1:21:02] cohesive comprehensive plan to that I

[1:21:05] think these resources will help them get

[1:21:07] a little bit closer to the hump and and

[1:21:10] as far as the Empowerment Center and

[1:21:12] what I'm trying to do that's that's not an issue I've always wanted

[1:21:17] to work Cooperative because it's not in

[1:21:18] the building and it doesn't matter if

[1:21:20] it's here there or whatever it's all

[1:21:22] about how do we serve people and what

[1:21:23] I'm putting forward is simply a people's

[1:21:26] budget if you will to provide those

[1:21:28] services so they've outlined some of

[1:21:30] them already we can certainly enhance on

[1:21:32] that and grow on it and build on

[1:21:37] it any other questions yes to there I

[1:21:39] just have a question as follow you

[1:21:41] mentioned a part of your Workforce to

[1:21:43] include the police and fire can you

[1:21:46] elaborate on that and what is there

[1:21:48] involv

[1:21:49] orol Department yeah well specifically

[1:21:51] what I likey to do is work within our

[1:21:53] community and develop a pipeline if you

[1:21:55] will to get our

[1:21:58] young get our young men and young women

[1:22:01] from here in in our city area to

[1:22:04] consider Public Safety and Public Safety

[1:22:07] don't necessarily mean just the police

[1:22:09] and fire but you know we got ogs we got

[1:22:11] L you know everything so so we talk

[1:22:14] about Public Safety we want to try to

[1:22:15] encourage and create that ecosystem

[1:22:18] within our community within our

[1:22:19] neighborhoods and we're working to

[1:22:21] develop that partnership starting you know going into the school district

[1:22:25] and getting them young and coming

[1:22:27] forward and and exploring and and

[1:22:29] sharing ideas and and exposing them to

[1:22:31] the opportunities so again specifically

[1:22:34] about Public Safety police and fire we

[1:22:37] we're trying to identify and enhance the

[1:22:40] efforts and why you want to consider

[1:22:41] that support and help them prepare you

[1:22:44] know for these exams and applying for

[1:22:45] these opportunities and also explor

[1:22:48] Expos them to Opportunities by having

[1:22:50] them meet and talk to people in the

[1:22:52] field in other words talk to the fire

[1:22:54] talk to the police officer see what it's

[1:22:56] like where did they come from how did it

[1:22:58] how do it relate why would this be an

[1:22:59] interesting you know an opportunity for

[1:23:01] us and and and I and I think uh we can

[1:23:04] really develop a pipeline and giving

[1:23:06] them support and the resources necessary

[1:23:08] to make a difference because the school

[1:23:10] district obiously want to work with

[1:23:12] us we as a city want to do this so I

[1:23:15] think it will help us if becomes a

[1:23:17] winwin scenario to what we're trying to

[1:23:19] do so it's simply trying to build a

[1:23:21] pipeline if you will to to have the

[1:23:23] bodies to to bring It Forward is this

[1:23:26] something new that you're going to be

[1:23:27] creating or is this something you

[1:23:29] already have we've been talking about it

[1:23:31] for years but uh getting it done you

[1:23:34] know it's it's talking to one thing and

[1:23:36] you know dealing with the resources and

[1:23:37] the barri to make it happen but each and

[1:23:39] every day more and more pieces of the

[1:23:41] puzzle come together you know so um it

[1:23:44] took me two years to get a conversation

[1:23:46] with the school district with the change

[1:23:47] the administration and change of this

[1:23:49] and how do we make it work so now we

[1:23:51] have that piece of the puzzle down we

[1:23:53] have a desire desire from within the

[1:23:55] administration here to bring in people

[1:23:57] look at from our local ranks how do we

[1:24:00] grow and develop that so every day more

[1:24:03] and more of those pieces of the puzzle

[1:24:04] comes together so we work with you know

[1:24:07] other organizations like for example the

[1:24:09] one black men for example they have a

[1:24:11] tremendous amount of resources in there

[1:24:12] in terms of police and fire and other

[1:24:15] Public Safety uh Avenues so we can

[1:24:17] utilize that resource I work with the

[1:24:19] community colleges we work with them on

[1:24:22] a regular basis to again help us develop

[1:24:25] this pipeline to uh to make it Power how do we how do we navigate

[1:24:30] this Mr FY yeah I I I CU hearing all of

[1:24:35] these things and there seems to be a lot

[1:24:36] of alignment a lot of information a lot

[1:24:39] of good information even as we're trying

[1:24:41] to navigate this these are all kind of

[1:24:42] good problems to have if you will great

[1:24:44] opportunities I would just um I would

[1:24:47] suggest that um maybe based on some of

[1:24:49] the information that you heard here

[1:24:51] today um go ahead and revising um what

[1:24:55] the initial proposal was um and

[1:24:58] therefore I think that we can um make a

[1:25:00] more informed decision based on

[1:25:02] that and does this include the

[1:25:05] programming that you're currently doing

[1:25:06] on the um in the building on Broadway

[1:25:09] yeah yeah we would include all that

[1:25:11] that's ongoing you know so these are

[1:25:13] things that will obviously migrate over

[1:25:15] expand on whatever the case may be but

[1:25:17] yeah absolutely because again we're not

[1:25:18] starting from Ground Zero we got program

[1:25:21] that we've been doing and we continue to

[1:25:23] do on a Basin so those things will

[1:25:26] continue and as these other

[1:25:28] opportunities come online or these other

[1:25:30] physical plant that will come online you

[1:25:33] know that's an easy uh you know

[1:25:35] migration

[1:25:37] thing those program that currently uh

[1:25:41] executing are those um funded under cdbg

[1:25:45] yes yes yes any other questions

[1:25:51] comments all right well we'll look

[1:25:52] forward to the submission of this

[1:25:56] document do you have anything else you

[1:25:58] want to add no I think

[1:26:10] uh okay one other thing I would like to

[1:26:12] add though is it's sort of off topic

[1:26:15] though but it it it continue to come up

[1:26:18] in terms of um Workforce Contracting

[1:26:21] opportunities and employment

[1:26:22] opportunities within the uh Within the

[1:26:24] city and I and I do I am aware of

[1:26:27] contractors feeling that they have not

[1:26:29] gotten opportunities and and I would

[1:26:31] just say that I agree with them 200%

[1:26:34] they've not gotten opportunities that

[1:26:36] they need and uh we work to deal with

[1:26:39] that on the daily basis but I will say

[1:26:42] to you know to those contractors me

[1:26:45] personally I don't write contracts I

[1:26:47] don't sign checks you know I can't hire

[1:26:49] anybody so I work with you in an effort

[1:26:53] to bring for the opportunity so that you

[1:26:55] can build the relationships and and make

[1:26:57] those type of things happen now

[1:26:59] frustration is out there yes you see a

[1:27:02] lot of things going on yes but uh I

[1:27:05] think one thing that we can certainly

[1:27:07] do is look at okay if we really want to

[1:27:10] seriously take a step and stop that we

[1:27:12] can stop all the contractor don't make

[1:27:15] the uh don't meet the objectives we can

[1:27:16] say okay we're not going to do it put

[1:27:18] them back out the bit or whatever but

[1:27:20] I'm but I'm just as frustrated as

[1:27:23] everybody else here you know to see you

[1:27:25] know the numbers it breaks my heart

[1:27:27] because I see the young man young lady

[1:27:28] out down the street trying to get a job

[1:27:30] I see them putting in the application

[1:27:32] and I see they're not getting high so

[1:27:33] what can we do and this is what we're

[1:27:35] trying to do to create these programming

[1:27:37] opportunity to at least we can move one

[1:27:39] of those little barriers out the way as

[1:27:41] we continue to build and put these

[1:27:44] pieces together so that's

[1:27:47] what okay Mr far yeah so being that uh

[1:27:51] that kind of talk Talking that topic

[1:27:54] um I know before you were here you

[1:27:56] talked about the possible uh possibility

[1:27:58] of I think de bundling um some of the

[1:28:01] larger contracts to give uh more uh mwbe

[1:28:05] contractors the opportunity um I would

[1:28:08] you know again have to put more work on

[1:28:10] you and I know working with the mayor's

[1:28:11] office I know something that he's been

[1:28:12] paying close attention to trying to

[1:28:15] figure out like what can we do um as a

[1:28:19] council because the frustration is one

[1:28:21] thing but what are the action steps that

[1:28:23] we can do um and then hopefully that

[1:28:26] you'll be able to present sort of a

[1:28:28] range of those action steps um because

[1:28:30] obviously our produ your responsibility

[1:28:32] to the city we also want to um make sure

[1:28:35] that anyone who's getting contracts from

[1:28:36] the city recog recognizes that there's a

[1:28:39] value that we place um um on uh hiring

[1:28:44] um mwbe and section 3 workers so maybe I think it would be helpful for um maybe

[1:28:52] producing a a range of actions that you

[1:28:56] know that are within our purview that

[1:28:58] can encourage the contractors um and

[1:29:00] anyone that we're doing build business

[1:29:02] with to help us meet those goals cuz I I

[1:29:04] it to me feels like there's some

[1:29:06] daylight between um the current

[1:29:09] situation some frustration here but then

[1:29:12] really like what are the ABS what can we

[1:29:14] do and if we're committed to that then

[1:29:16] you know I I cautiously optimistically

[1:29:19] speak on behalf of my colleagues that

[1:29:21] were willing to um take some actions

[1:29:24] obviously with the guidance of of the

[1:29:25] mayor's office and part yeah yeah to

[1:29:28] that to that point we do have a good

[1:29:31] plan in terms of participation and and

[1:29:34] goals and objectives and and it's very

[1:29:35] realistically and very well thought out

[1:29:38] I think one thing that will certainly

[1:29:41] help us with these hurdles if you will

[1:29:43] because we're dealing with a a broad

[1:29:45] range of issues but you know but but

[1:29:48] keeping it simple let's say that the bid

[1:29:50] comes in and we sit down at the table we

[1:29:52] open up the bid and there goal their

[1:29:55] objective don't meet you know what it's

[1:29:56] supposed to be we should be able to just

[1:29:59] at that point just stop it right there

[1:30:00] and then put it to the side they they

[1:30:02] didn't me the objective I mean we can

[1:30:03] get you know that you know black and

[1:30:05] white about it you know and obviously we

[1:30:07] have to manage that against the need

[1:30:10] that do we want to get the business want

[1:30:11] see project done and all that now

[1:30:14] there's a lot of the education component

[1:30:15] that sort of goes on with that too you

[1:30:17] know we also have to think about when we take this route do we have the

[1:30:21] capacity to fill all the things out

[1:30:24] there you know capacity is a big issue

[1:30:25] so let's say that the you know XYZ

[1:30:28] company says okay I'm going to give this

[1:30:30] to this contractor because we know that

[1:30:33] we got to meet this goal and the

[1:30:35] contract don't have a goal what are we

[1:30:36] going to do how are we going to support

[1:30:37] this contractor we've been trying to

[1:30:38] keep real with these contracts and say I

[1:30:41] know you're in business I know you want

[1:30:42] to do this but sometime you may not be

[1:30:44] ready for this do you understand the

[1:30:46] insurance requirements do you understand

[1:30:48] the finance commitment do you understand

[1:30:50] that when you go ahead and start this

[1:30:52] job the city is Con not to cut you a

[1:30:54] check up front so you can buy material

[1:30:56] do you understand you got to meet your

[1:30:57] payroll every week you have those

[1:30:59] resources and those are the realistic

[1:31:01] things that we have to do so we can do

[1:31:04] it and and I'm I'm I'm right here ready

[1:31:07] we had we had a plan we had a mechanism

[1:31:09] in place to you know make that happen

[1:31:11] but I think we can also think about in

[1:31:13] terms of how do we break these things

[1:31:15] down into small pieces where we can

[1:31:18] create opportuni for the Tyrone of the

[1:31:20] world for example Tyrone may not be able

[1:31:22] to pave all the streets out but he can

[1:31:24] certainly install window painting or do

[1:31:27] something else you know how can we build

[1:31:29] the capacity of that guy so that he can

[1:31:32] at some point be at a level where he'll

[1:31:34] have the capacity to do you know other

[1:31:37] type thing and hire and and and the

[1:31:39] truth be told is these small firms are

[1:31:42] the ones that's hiring our local

[1:31:43] Workforce it's not the big contractors

[1:31:46] out there that's got the big contract $0

[1:31:48] million when you look at the certified

[1:31:50] payroll those people that own that

[1:31:52] payroll is not in this 3051 12307

[1:31:55] they're not

[1:31:57] here okay so um you know we we've been

[1:32:01] trying to work up to that capacity but

[1:32:03] that's the conv we have to have we can

[1:32:04] certainly start at this T we open up the

[1:32:06] bid if the bid meet the objectives

[1:32:08] coming in you yes know we move to the

[1:32:11] side and keep it moving so that's that's

[1:32:12] one thing we can do and we can start

[1:32:14] also having conversation with the bids

[1:32:17] and you know Contracting engineer and

[1:32:18] everybody else but that's where that's

[1:32:21] where it started it starts here you know

[1:32:23] with us as family um you know no one

[1:32:26] Department can can do it no one person

[1:32:29] can do it but the we we can certain

[1:32:34] this Mr Williams just as a point at

[1:32:37] Clarity based on the U comments you just

[1:32:39] made I want to be careful and ensuring

[1:32:41] that we don't conflate the two

[1:32:42] conversations that we're that we're

[1:32:45] having at the moment I think if we're

[1:32:46] identifying if your efforts as the

[1:32:49] affirmative action officer uh how are

[1:32:51] they yielding to some of the the end

[1:32:54] users who kind of benefit from your

[1:32:56] actions I think from a council and I can

[1:32:58] only speak for myself tell us what more

[1:33:00] we have to do or what more we can do to

[1:33:02] ensure that these individuals uh

[1:33:04] continue to to to receive these

[1:33:06] resources these opportunities moving

[1:33:08] forward however if we are then looking

[1:33:10] at the separate conversation of uh

[1:33:13] funding your empowerment proposal for me

[1:33:16] myself personally you identifi a number

[1:33:18] of roles and responsibilities that I

[1:33:20] imagine you currently uh uh manage

[1:33:22] solely it is wanting to understand what

[1:33:25] team or additional resources you need

[1:33:27] because you Mr gner cannot be in

[1:33:29] multiple places at once no you know

[1:33:31] that's the point we do need you know

[1:33:33] more resources so if that's not going to

[1:33:35] be the case that Al has to be paired

[1:33:36] down and as I mentioned to several

[1:33:39] before you know I got put you know laser

[1:33:41] focus on what the task is in front of me

[1:33:43] know so we can't do everything to

[1:33:45] everybody and be effective but I do

[1:33:48] believe that in this Arena of creating

[1:33:51] an ecosystem or economic OPP OPP unities

[1:33:54] for everyone it's one thing to say okay

[1:33:56] we have opportunities for you we have a

[1:33:58] house for you or we have this for you

[1:34:00] but if you don't have the the resources

[1:34:02] or the expertise or whatever to pull all

[1:34:04] that together then we we're doing your

[1:34:08] disservice so we need to have that real

[1:34:10] conversation and say you do have to be

[1:34:12] prepared and those are some of the

[1:34:14] things that we do we have you know

[1:34:16] Workshop uh that we plan on on an

[1:34:18] ongoing basis where we have

[1:34:19] professionals come in the SBA the bank

[1:34:22] and tell you this is what you got to

[1:34:24] have to you know get the resources how

[1:34:26] do we make you bankable if you will and

[1:34:28] it's not just a matter going saying I

[1:34:30] got a contract or whatever you know to

[1:34:31] do it because ultimately it comes back

[1:34:33] to the same thing do you have the

[1:34:35] resources which mean do you have the

[1:34:36] money to get into this game and and and

[1:34:40] as a responsibility with a municipality

[1:34:42] you have a full plate on your hands in

[1:34:44] terms of dealing with you know power of

[1:34:47] it to make it happen so you know how do

[1:34:50] we how do we do it

[1:34:52] okay Mr F so just for clarity it's um it's looking

[1:34:58] like what how I'm understanding this is

[1:35:01] the council it would

[1:35:03] be beneficial and we can expect you to

[1:35:06] put together kind of a more revised um

[1:35:09] allocation of resources based on some of

[1:35:11] the things that you heard um tonight and

[1:35:13] maybe some more information that might

[1:35:15] come between you to in between time and

[1:35:17] also um maybe uh because in the second

[1:35:20] issue there's a lot of difference that

[1:35:21] has to be given to you because you are

[1:35:23] the expert in in this area and what we

[1:35:26] would really need is almost a a list of

[1:35:29] graduated interventions if you will um

[1:35:32] that we can look at and say okay this is

[1:35:34] something that we do have the capacity

[1:35:36] to do that um will uh get us closer to

[1:35:39] those goals and support our local

[1:35:40] economy and we can kind of scale up as

[1:35:42] we go maybe all scaffold it a little bit

[1:35:44] so those two different documents um

[1:35:48] would be really uh vital for us moving

[1:35:49] forward yeah there there's a lot in that

[1:35:51] alphabet suit and it's true true that it

[1:35:54] you know there's a lot on both sides of

[1:35:56] the C but but it's it's a huge massive

[1:35:59] issue you know it's a big problem and um

[1:36:02] and and I think the the key here is your

[1:36:05] role here as a counsel with the mayor

[1:36:07] sitting right there you know

[1:36:08] understanding this and helping us guide

[1:36:10] the process that's really the key

[1:36:12] because from over here where I sit it's

[1:36:13] just a matter of you know you're very

[1:36:16] limited I'm limited in terms of what I

[1:36:17] can do you know by state and federal law

[1:36:19] Limited in terms of what I can do within

[1:36:21] the comprise what I have to deal with

[1:36:22] here but this this is it you guys tell

[1:36:24] me you know what you want to do and we

[1:36:27] can um we can make it happen well you

[1:36:29] have to tell us what some of the possib

[1:36:30] I can do thank you

[1:36:34] absolutely any other questions comments

[1:36:36] from the

[1:36:37] council thank you Mr G we look forward

[1:36:39] to those to that information do

[1:36:41] appreciate it and thank you Miss

[1:36:48] car so we will now uh enter into our

[1:36:51] official

[1:36:52] agenda and start with our committee's

[1:36:54] finance thank you I would like to call

[1:36:56] the finance committee to order and the

[1:36:58] first item is to create a special

[1:37:00] assessment District on a portion of

[1:37:02] narch College Street we had a public

[1:37:04] hearing on 11th of March and I would ask

[1:37:08] Mr W to just give us a brief update on

[1:37:11] the project on on this project before we

[1:37:15] move forward in creating this um special

[1:37:18] assessment

[1:37:19] District so uh this project was created

[1:37:22] at the end of last year we are on to uh

[1:37:26] essentially 100% complete we're on the

[1:37:27] punch list just to make sure the Grass

[1:37:29] Grows and that the trees bloom in the

[1:37:31] spring um after we completed the project

[1:37:33] engineering put together as built

[1:37:35] drawings of all the properties

[1:37:36] calculated all of the additional costs

[1:37:39] associated with these projects this

[1:37:41] project was unique in that it was not

[1:37:43] only a $55 per lar foot but there was

[1:37:45] also some brick work and some other um

[1:37:48] lead walk items that were also added so

[1:37:51] we had to document and um classify all

[1:37:54] those once those were done and together

[1:37:56] it was sent to Lindsay uh in our

[1:37:58] receipts office so that we could get the

[1:38:00] numbers together for the assessment

[1:38:02] rules and then we called for public

[1:38:04] hearing so we had the public hearing uh

[1:38:06] the period is over and this is on the

[1:38:08] next step after this approval we will be

[1:38:11] sending out the assessments I think

[1:38:13] there are municipal vouchers to all the

[1:38:14] residents on the street for the the

[1:38:17] billing of the

[1:38:18] work

[1:38:22] questions

[1:38:24] so you have you have a a an ordinance in

[1:38:27] front of you so um any questions

[1:38:32] regarding seeting down I would like to

[1:38:34] ask a motion to create a special

[1:38:35] assessment district for a portion of Nar

[1:38:38] College

[1:38:38] Street um second all in favor I thank

[1:38:43] you and that the next item is the

[1:38:46] Central Park sideway Improvement project

[1:38:48] we had a public hearing on February 26th

[1:38:52] we held this for a couple weeks because

[1:38:53] there were some concern that was um sent

[1:38:56] to us and the engineering department Mr

[1:38:59] Walling addressed those and I think

[1:39:02] every ready to move forward based on the

[1:39:04] feedback you received from the

[1:39:06] residents and I ask Mr Walling to just

[1:39:10] us so we had

[1:39:16] a we had a public meeting uh out outside

[1:39:20] of council independent public meeting in

[1:39:22] City Hall um where the residents that

[1:39:25] did show uh unanimously agreed to keep

[1:39:28] the Street's character as is um so that

[1:39:30] would mean that allowing no parking on

[1:39:32] the street to keep the character of the

[1:39:34] road I.E the Landscaping um

[1:39:37] intact the public hearing was called

[1:39:40] that was actually in council chambers

[1:39:41] just like we were doing now at the

[1:39:43] public hearing um it was discussed that

[1:39:46] some wanted on street parking and were

[1:39:48] against the idea of no on street parking

[1:39:51] some even switched their vote voted for

[1:39:54] it to not um so to try in a way to come

[1:39:58] up with a hybrid solution that was not

[1:40:00] presented at either meeting uh we sat

[1:40:03] down and we looked at an option which

[1:40:04] you have in front of you which is to

[1:40:06] create a hybrid where I select on street

[1:40:10] parking is constructed that does not

[1:40:13] interfere with

[1:40:15] trees um so if you look on it wouldn't

[1:40:18] be on the cover page it would be on the

[1:40:19] second and third Pages you'll see bump

[1:40:22] out areas

[1:40:24] in between the alleys um these areas

[1:40:26] would affect um some some lawn but they

[1:40:30] would not affect any mature trees they

[1:40:32] are purposely constructed to not affect

[1:40:35] mature trees it also leaves the island

[1:40:38] as is and narrows the roadway so these

[1:40:41] areas are all within the right of way

[1:40:44] and would be created um I do not know

[1:40:47] what residents in front of these

[1:40:48] particular areas opinion would be but

[1:40:51] this was the Compromise that the engine

[1:40:53] and myself thought would be the least

[1:40:55] intrusive and get the best results would

[1:40:58] be to have these I believe the amount of

[1:41:00] parking spaces is nominal somewhere

[1:41:02] between 15 and 20 depending on the size

[1:41:04] of the vehicles but it does allow for

[1:41:07] parking in the areas where um you would

[1:41:09] have to go to the alley and the alley

[1:41:10] really isn't the most appropriate spot

[1:41:12] for a visitor or a delivery to come for

[1:41:15] parking so all of the bump house would

[1:41:17] be on the Alley side on yes they would

[1:41:19] only be on the Alley side because that's

[1:41:21] where we have flat space

[1:41:23] and we would be able to uh if we went

[1:41:25] with a bump out on the other side we

[1:41:27] start getting in the hills and it would

[1:41:29] be uh much more

[1:41:30] invasive so this is not a full product

[1:41:33] this is just an idea to allow to have

[1:41:35] some on street parking uh specifically I

[1:41:38] think a couple people who ask for on

[1:41:39] street parking are right in this area so

[1:41:42] they would be able to have on street

[1:41:43] parking Mr M yeah I think most of most

[1:41:46] of the the people who are asking parking

[1:41:48] was on the side where the alley is

[1:41:50] because if you were to put it on the

[1:41:51] other side people have driveways um

[1:41:53] that's how side here and you'll see that

[1:41:54] it's only between the alleys we do not

[1:41:57] continue it because once you get past

[1:41:58] the alley towards the Rose Garden that

[1:42:01] side then does pick up and have their

[1:42:02] own driveways oh okay so we're we're

[1:42:05] talking about

[1:42:06] 19 give or take give or take we don't we

[1:42:09] don't mark them so if you have a lot of

[1:42:11] small cars get more than 19 but that's

[1:42:13] one of the reasons that you you don't

[1:42:14] anymore Mark what they call them T's and

[1:42:16] L's we got rid of that because uh

[1:42:18] vehicles are all different sizes um so

[1:42:21] you want to make sure that you can fit

[1:42:22] as many vehicles in

[1:42:24] all right open up for questions on

[1:42:26] this go ahead please I just to make a

[1:42:29] comment I think this definitely is uh

[1:42:31] reflect over the work of your office so

[1:42:33] definitely I I I appreciate it as a

[1:42:35] member of the council you take the

[1:42:36] additional time to evaluate other

[1:42:38] options and also kind of re-evaluate how

[1:42:40] to meet some of the concerns of

[1:42:42] individuals that may or may not have

[1:42:45] brought their attentions to the meeting

[1:42:47] but also kind of changed based on other

[1:42:48] conversations that they have uh but

[1:42:50] definitely excited um to to see this

[1:42:52] performance so thank

[1:42:56] you go ahead please just quickly so

[1:42:59] definitely again kudos for being

[1:43:01] responsive to uh the needs of the

[1:43:03] citizens of the city I just a question

[1:43:06] um is it like kind of a ballpark on how

[1:43:09] this cost look different than the

[1:43:12] original scope that we talked about no I

[1:43:14] mean the Scopes that we talked about

[1:43:16] there were so inclusive me we had one

[1:43:17] that was around 900,000 all the way up

[1:43:19] to 1.3 I know there was a conversation

[1:43:21] about really is it only 300,000 I don't

[1:43:23] think this will have a a really drastic

[1:43:25] effect on on anything we're going to be

[1:43:27] narrowing a little bit the roadway this

[1:43:29] still has the roadway going from 15 to

[1:43:31] 13 we really feel that we'd like to

[1:43:33] leave it at 13 a typical Lane is 11 so

[1:43:36] you're still 2 ft larger than the

[1:43:38] typical 15 it's a big Lane and the thing

[1:43:41] that we're going to focus on now if we

[1:43:43] go we really want to focus on the

[1:43:44] turnaround areas make sure they're

[1:43:46] adequately size for the turnaround

[1:43:49] so also we talked about um I know there

[1:43:52] was some discussion around like maybe

[1:43:54] like some striping and things I know

[1:43:56] narrowing it down obviously for to deter

[1:43:58] you know people from speeding as as do

[1:44:01] the striping would that still even be

[1:44:03] possible even NE what we would do is we

[1:44:05] would just strike one white line uh to

[1:44:07] delineate where the where the parking

[1:44:09] areas are and when you hit that it would

[1:44:11] make it feel more narrow we are still

[1:44:13] also looking at replacing the lighting

[1:44:15] on the corridor with new LED lighting

[1:44:17] but the lighting would be essentially in

[1:44:18] the same location thank

[1:44:22] you thank you Chris I I like that whole

[1:44:24] idea right trying to help make everyone

[1:44:27] happy um what kind of footage would it

[1:44:31] take from the residents on that alley

[1:44:33] side would it take some of their Green

[1:44:36] Space away in between their those bump

[1:44:39] outs with the bump outs if we do that no

[1:44:43] I I don't you talking about would it

[1:44:44] take the Island area away not the island

[1:44:47] lawn their lawn that's in yes yeah I

[1:44:50] think you can see there will be a little

[1:44:52] impact to some of the lawn yeah and you

[1:44:53] can see you can see on the second page

[1:44:56] on the top of it know there's a couple

[1:44:57] of bushes that we would like to relocate

[1:44:59] we're really going to try to see if we

[1:45:00] can actually replant them back so there

[1:45:02] is not I mean you're probably going if

[1:45:05] I'm looking at that sidewalks 5 ft so

[1:45:06] you're 5 ft back from the back of the

[1:45:09] sidewalk 5 ft to get in so there is an

[1:45:11] impact so that's where you know not

[1:45:13] everyone is going to be you know pleased

[1:45:15] but we are just trying to keep some of

[1:45:17] the the better treat if somebody wanted

[1:45:18] to say that there was a dead tree and

[1:45:19] they wanted to move it and wanted

[1:45:20] parking we could always extend it but

[1:45:23] you know after our first meeting the

[1:45:25] number one takeaway was preserve the

[1:45:27] character and integrity of the street VI

[1:45:30] the landscaping and it's the whole

[1:45:32] street is in tree line with very mature

[1:45:34] trees so we couldn't fit in these

[1:45:37] Pockets

[1:45:40] question I guess my next question is so

[1:45:42] what happens now does it go back to

[1:45:46] that's an excellent

[1:45:47] question I if if I'm directed to go

[1:45:49] forward with option D then I'm going to

[1:45:51] go forward with option D and that's what

[1:45:54] uh so once we have I have a go from the

[1:45:55] council we'll start putting this into in

[1:45:57] action but I don't know about the next

[1:46:00] public

[1:46:01] step um um Madam president Mr chairman I

[1:46:05] mean it's really up to the council what

[1:46:07] you want to do at this point based on

[1:46:09] that the revisions that have been

[1:46:11] prevent presented to you if you feel

[1:46:13] that they sufficiently address the

[1:46:15] concerns that were made as a public

[1:46:16] hearing um you can AFF because the the document has addressed those

[1:46:22] concerns if you feel that you feel that

[1:46:25] this is a little bit more different or a

[1:46:29] little bit different from the original

[1:46:31] plan then you can call for an additional

[1:46:34] public hearing on the the revised plan

[1:46:37] and that would just put off the the uh

[1:46:39] the ordinance but it would also put off

[1:46:40] the project for you know

[1:46:43] for probably four four weeks I'm

[1:46:46] thinking because of the U cycle if you

[1:46:49] had a public

[1:46:50] heing you could uh put it off for a

[1:46:53] couple of weeks and maybe at that next

[1:46:56] council meeting at the public hearing

[1:46:58] after you hear it all at that point you

[1:47:00] may decide to uh do final adoption at

[1:47:04] that point so you could put it off for

[1:47:06] two weeks if you wish and just have the

[1:47:09] hearing and that the same evening you feel that sufficient everything is

[1:47:14] sufficiently addressed then you can

[1:47:16] adopt the ordinance at that evening and

[1:47:19] then it moves forward things forward the

[1:47:22] a bit more but it's it's really up to

[1:47:25] you if you feel that this is a uh within

[1:47:27] the general scope where you want to give

[1:47:29] more public uh input that's that's all

[1:47:32] up to you but you could do it like I

[1:47:35] said you if you want to have a public

[1:47:36] hearing two weeks and then that evening

[1:47:39] you could decide to move it if you feel

[1:47:42] that everything's addressed yeah to to

[1:47:45] address that I mean we had the public

[1:47:46] hearing and many concern that was raised

[1:47:48] and the letter the emails that was

[1:47:50] submitted um one of the most important

[1:47:52] part of will be addressing the parking

[1:47:54] which was loud and clear so I think

[1:47:56] that's the only change here and I think

[1:47:58] uh majority is in in agreement in terms

[1:48:01] of providing parking wheel on that very

[1:48:04] same side so I I don't think it's a

[1:48:06] major change to that it's change based

[1:48:08] and what was recommended to the

[1:48:11] engineering department to us for this

[1:48:13] project to move

[1:48:15] forward go ahead please yeah um I agree

[1:48:18] with you that because I actually

[1:48:20] attended a meeting where they said this

[1:48:21] is part of it um

[1:48:23] so we've made the changes however I

[1:48:25] think it's also important that we inform

[1:48:26] people that this is a change as opposed

[1:48:28] to just moving ahead with it so to do

[1:48:30] what has been um suggested by Mr O'Brien

[1:48:33] the two weeks as opposed to this

[1:48:35] extended public heing process to do the

[1:48:37] two weeks um put the information out

[1:48:39] there that this is what the change is

[1:48:41] going to be and again I think it's going

[1:48:42] to make some people happy but I'm always

[1:48:44] a proponent of informing people and

[1:48:46] making people know and being inclusive

[1:48:49] rather than when the bulldozers show up

[1:48:51] so I I'm I'm in favor of waiting the two

[1:48:53] weeks and approving it that night and

[1:48:55] then moving forward this information is

[1:48:57] actually

[1:48:58] out sharing between the res the home

[1:49:01] owners there you've already started put

[1:49:03] yes I I shared it up I did not yes all

[1:49:06] right so I think we so they have access

[1:49:08] to this right so I think we still go

[1:49:10] with that the the the hearing the public

[1:49:12] hearing two weeks and then move forward

[1:49:14] as opposed to not you me that we did

[1:49:17] make some changes so just want to um on

[1:49:20] the end up on the right side of this two

[1:49:23] more weeks is it going to be we can

[1:49:25] start you know getting some of the other

[1:49:27] things together come up really need that

[1:49:31] it's up up to you it's up to the council

[1:49:33] it's what you feel I mean I it's up to

[1:49:36] the members go ahead I would have to to

[1:49:39] agree with um Miss Porterfield I think

[1:49:42] it was highlighted that not everyone is

[1:49:44] going to agree um but very much these

[1:49:47] are uh changes that these individuals

[1:49:50] Within These households where some Point

[1:49:53] uh they're going to have that bump in

[1:49:56] that is going to be a change they're

[1:49:57] going to have to live with for as long

[1:49:58] as their residents in that that that location uh so although uh I'm

[1:50:02] confident that these take into

[1:50:03] consideration a lot of the concerns that

[1:50:05] were uh uh given to the council I I

[1:50:08] again think it is important for us to be

[1:50:10] transparent and um and making sure we

[1:50:13] have the opportunity for people to to

[1:50:16] voice their opinion should they have

[1:50:17] them um but again if there's not going

[1:50:19] to be a significant disruption in the

[1:50:21] project which you're saying we won't

[1:50:23] I think it it is something that we

[1:50:25] should take advantage

[1:50:28] of and I think that's what Mr Walling

[1:50:31] address there is not a significant

[1:50:32] impact on this project by putting this

[1:50:34] parking there on that side and majority

[1:50:37] of the resident wanted that parking on

[1:50:39] that side based on the competition we'll

[1:50:41] be having back and

[1:50:45] forth any goad please but I would say

[1:50:48] what is your confidence in the

[1:50:49] distribution means for getting people

[1:50:51] that information cuz I would let's say

[1:50:52] it is even lacking one I would tell you

[1:50:55] if I didn't hear that and there was an

[1:50:56] individual who came before the council

[1:50:58] and said I wasn't aware of the

[1:51:00] information I think definitely making

[1:51:01] sure there's opportunities for everyone

[1:51:03] to ensure the information is is received

[1:51:06] in a timely manner and then again I just

[1:51:07] want to point out the two weeks is not

[1:51:09] at a cost to the

[1:51:12] project any other discussion go ahead

[1:51:15] please U I'm just and I'm willing to do

[1:51:17] what we did before is to actually unless

[1:51:19] you've already done it to the entire

[1:51:20] Street I know it took us like maybe an

[1:51:22] hour when we did it collectively to walk

[1:51:24] again with this new plan and you know

[1:51:27] just give it to everyone so they could

[1:51:29] have it in front of

[1:51:31] them I I just like always to air on the

[1:51:33] side of safety caution any other

[1:51:38] discussion s we then hold this because

[1:51:41] we it doesn't seem we can move power so

[1:51:43] we'll hold this for two weeks don't we

[1:51:46] have to um sorry do we have to call you

[1:51:48] can have a resolution for public hearing

[1:51:51] final consideration at the same time

[1:51:55] okay

[1:51:56] have two motions or one a resolution

[1:52:00] calling for a public hearing on the

[1:52:02] concept D for this Central Parkway

[1:52:06] sidewalk inclement

[1:52:08] program

[1:52:10] y thank

[1:52:13] you second all in favor I and then final

[1:52:17] consideration the

[1:52:19] ordinance a motion to consider and

[1:52:23] that's that will be final consideration

[1:52:25] when you put the do the uh the agenda

[1:52:28] together for that evening it will be

[1:52:30] mark his final consideration unless you

[1:52:33] hear something at that public hearing

[1:52:34] then you can always pull it but the

[1:52:37] ordinance that's already been posted

[1:52:40] would be voted on that same night okay any other business for finance

[1:52:45] excuse me I just want to be clear do we

[1:52:47] need another motion for that one or no

[1:52:48] Mr because cons the ordinance is already

[1:52:51] there

[1:52:53] any other business over Finance I just

[1:52:55] want to thank Mr wall for the work and

[1:52:56] for L for I know this has been a long

[1:52:59] process I was looking at my documents

[1:53:01] from

[1:53:01] 2021 so I'm glad to say in 2024 that

[1:53:04] project is actually moving forward so

[1:53:06] thank you for all your work on this and

[1:53:08] I hope all the residents are

[1:53:10] happy on the

[1:53:12] same any other business for finance

[1:53:15] motion to ad so move second all in favor

[1:53:18] I I thank you I'd like to call the word

[1:53:20] of the Public Safety Committee we have

[1:53:22] one item on the agenda tonight that is a

[1:53:24] review of the Amendments of the city

[1:53:26] code section uh Chapter 93 section 6

[1:53:29] entitled civilian police review board to

[1:53:31] modify the manner of appointing

[1:53:32] vacancies to the civilian police review

[1:53:34] board uh we had a public hearing uh last

[1:53:37] week and i' would like to turn over to

[1:53:39] Mr Brian M uh Mr chairman if there's no

[1:53:42] amendments to or or markups uh to the

[1:53:45] proposed legislation we can move that on

[1:53:47] for final consideration next Monday

[1:53:51] night were there any other comments

[1:53:53] questions from the mayor the one thing I

[1:53:58] noticed originally said the connect

[1:54:01] chamber connected chamber doesn't exist

[1:54:04] anymore ised into the capital uh region

[1:54:08] Chamber so it's just to change

[1:54:11] that um one word is in terms of a

[1:54:14] recommending group okay since it's in

[1:54:18] keeping with the it's a housekeeping

[1:54:21] type Amendment mhm um you don't need

[1:54:24] another public Hearing in on it because

[1:54:26] it's just reflecting the change of that

[1:54:28] particular organization but if there's

[1:54:30] no change into the proposed text as far

[1:54:34] as the appointment is concerned then uh

[1:54:37] we can go forward and I'll make

[1:54:39] a Amendment to the to the proposed

[1:54:42] ordinance correcting that one U

[1:54:46] oranization

[1:54:47] name any other questions or

[1:54:50] comments uh hearing know hearing none

[1:54:52] may I have a motion uh to proceed with

[1:54:55] the amendment from the

[1:54:58] mayor second all in favor are there any

[1:55:01] other items toall Public Safety feing

[1:55:03] none may have motion for Jour

[1:55:06] second all in favor

[1:55:09] say I'd like to call order City

[1:55:12] development and planning we have 13

[1:55:14] items on the agenda uh the first one is

[1:55:17] to follow up ARA Miss

[1:55:21] Carver

[1:55:29] hello again

[1:55:33] hell good evening again since we last

[1:55:37] met the Coco house contract has been

[1:55:40] signed by the mayor and it's a waiting

[1:55:43] signature from Coco house

[1:55:45] administrators bcni Hamilton Hill

[1:55:48] contract is still pending the mayor's

[1:55:51] review

[1:55:54] uh the Electric City Co-Op um as they

[1:55:57] said in their presentations they're

[1:55:59] still missing site and some of the

[1:56:01] documents to prove the leverage funding

[1:56:03] so that's

[1:56:05] pending

[1:56:07] the additional updates that I have for

[1:56:10] you are just up for discussion the

[1:56:13] YWCA um this connected Little League

[1:56:16] which Chris Wallen is going to talk

[1:56:18] about and I also noted on the documents

[1:56:21] the Community Foundation um weed the

[1:56:25] organizational chart and itemized Budget

[1:56:27] on 311 heard the request of councel and

[1:56:29] the mayor um on 314 we requested an

[1:56:32] updated budget to include The Fringe

[1:56:35] benefit so we're still awaiting those

[1:56:37] supporting

[1:56:38] documents is there any other groups out

[1:56:40] El there are no other groups everybody

[1:56:42] else is in

[1:56:45] contract I

[1:56:47] know missing lights the tunnel um so be

[1:56:51] see

[1:56:53] mayie so um well YWCA is already on

[1:56:57] there so did you want Mr W to speak to

[1:56:59] the Oregon Avenue I I'll do the YMCA

[1:57:02] first so the YCA YW by themselves

[1:57:06] separate okay s okay M

[1:57:19] yeah pools Little League tennis golf

[1:57:22] what do we got it's like a country club

[1:57:25] here so why uh literally this is what

[1:57:28] we're talking about I got an email

[1:57:29] ordered to me the email was succinct it

[1:57:33] had a list of priorities with

[1:57:35] anticipated budgets and I assigned uh

[1:57:37] one of our Engineers to start getting

[1:57:39] pricing for it so we're going to attack

[1:57:41] it just as a peace meal um fencing contractor roof roofing

[1:57:45] contractor lighting electrician uh I

[1:57:48] think it'll just be too difficult to do

[1:57:51] one giant bid with all these things in

[1:57:53] it because the costs are too small um so

[1:57:56] it'll be very similar to what was done

[1:57:57] on Michigan Avenue which was a wall we

[1:58:00] went with someone who built walls so

[1:58:02] we're going to get uh the fencing will

[1:58:04] be a little complicated just because it

[1:58:05] require a bid uh over

[1:58:08] $35,000 so we are going to put together

[1:58:10] some um drawings and put out a fencing

[1:58:13] bid for that uh and then the other three

[1:58:15] will be able to get pricing for because

[1:58:17] they're all under $35,000 so then we'll

[1:58:20] start getting close from that that from

[1:58:22] some of our local vendors that we use I

[1:58:25] can work with Ron Gardner on that to see

[1:58:27] uh what contractors he would recommend

[1:58:29] so that we could try to get it so the

[1:58:31] but the list was pretty detailed which

[1:58:33] is what we needed and it all had cost

[1:58:35] estimates and it was signed by the board

[1:58:37] so that is pretty much exactly what we

[1:58:39] needed to go forward so how much money

[1:58:42] are we working with well right now we're

[1:58:44] working with

[1:58:45] $175,000 uh which is enough to complete

[1:58:48] what they have the only project that

[1:58:51] could be ass slope is they want to

[1:58:53] reinstate the Back Field which is a

[1:58:56] lower field that was abandoned several

[1:58:58] years ago reinstating that um it could

[1:59:01] just be as simple as brush hogging

[1:59:03] mowing getting it down cleaning it out

[1:59:05] but it also could be more involved

[1:59:06] depending on how we get it so we're

[1:59:08] going to focus on the existing fields

[1:59:10] and getting them up uh the scoreboard

[1:59:12] the roofs and uh and then and go from

[1:59:15] there so we'll do what we can do for the

[1:59:17] 175 and then look at weting the back

[1:59:20] field and what the cost would be and

[1:59:22] Paul had been talking with them to see

[1:59:23] what our inhouse abilities were with

[1:59:25] that but that's I'm going to try to do

[1:59:27] the other ones that are just to get

[1:59:29] something going cuz I know that they

[1:59:30] feel like they've been slided so we want

[1:59:32] to get that moving some time for uh for

[1:59:35] the season that's the other complicated

[1:59:37] is where we have a hole in the season

[1:59:38] because baseball season is starting um

[1:59:41] it might be uh you know we might not be

[1:59:43] able to tackle it in the spring but

[1:59:44] sometimes in the summer there is a

[1:59:45] little bit of a gap in August usually uh

[1:59:48] when you everybody stops playing

[1:59:50] baseball so that might be the window

[1:59:51] that we

[1:59:52] for questions comments

[1:59:55] concerns any no all right well thank you

[1:59:59] very much I know that people are going

[2:00:00] to be happy

[2:00:05] yep any questions for me so I don't know

[2:00:09] why sorry city council I'm you better stay here with me um so

[2:00:16] that was the the followup on the ARA

[2:00:18] nobody no questions on the Coco house

[2:00:20] bcni is in the mayor um we heard about

[2:00:22] the little Le um that's it for the

[2:00:25] follow up and you talk about jury and

[2:00:27] we're waiting for those documents so we

[2:00:28] have all that anybody got questions

[2:00:30] about that part of it okay cuz now we're

[2:00:32] going to move on to item number two the

[2:00:34] YWCA Harbor house so I'm bringing this

[2:00:38] um as a revisit the last meeting there

[2:00:41] was not a decision made on lessening The

[2:00:43] Leverage amount requested so I'm asking

[2:00:45] city council to consider that tonight

[2:00:48] they ask they roughly have a $7 million

[2:00:51] mat $20 million um match and they're

[2:00:54] asking it to be moved to 7

[2:00:56] million so as everyone recalls at the

[2:00:59] last meeting they did presentation I

[2:01:01] think we were all in agreement that we

[2:01:02] would move ahead with that but um it we

[2:01:05] didn't bring it into committee to to Dev

[2:01:07] vote it through so that's what we're

[2:01:08] doing at this point to bring it back to

[2:01:11] the committee so that we can vote it

[2:01:12] through to lessen their leverage

[2:01:15] amount any

[2:01:19] questions I'll second it I'll favor I I

[2:01:23] thank you thank you Miss far thank

[2:01:26] you uh the next one is the to award

[2:01:30] bidden contract for the 2024

[2:01:32] HB Paul had a leave so I saw him

[2:01:36] disappearing so I was like I didn't know

[2:01:37] it was going to pitch it council

[2:01:39] president mayor city council uh in

[2:01:42] keeping with the city's purchasing

[2:01:44] policy this the city disc connect went

[2:01:46] out the bid for HVAC companies to uh

[2:01:50] provide uh maintenance uh all the city

[2:01:53] uh buildings all the police stations the

[2:01:55] fire stations uh Bureau service City

[2:01:58] Hall and all service stations this is

[2:02:00] kind of like getting a a retainer for uh

[2:02:02] so that we're on top of the list so we

[2:02:04] have a call that come in U uh come in uh

[2:02:08] and uh fix whatever problem we have um

[2:02:11] there was uh I believe five different

[2:02:13] bids and uh this was all put up when I

[2:02:16] by our purchasing agent and uh you can

[2:02:18] see our uh uh lowest bid was uh eords

[2:02:22] uh with the the the different uh hourly

[2:02:25] rates uh for you know daily 8 to four

[2:02:28] nights and the weekends uh looks like

[2:02:30] we're going to be a pretty bunch of good

[2:02:32] savings it's an option it's a one-year

[2:02:34] contract with a option for two years if

[2:02:37] they do well um e the company had they'

[2:02:39] done other jobs for the city especially

[2:02:42] some of the big jobs like the wastewater

[2:02:43] treatment plant uh uh North First Street

[2:02:47] Pump Station and other things so we know

[2:02:48] that they're a repal company uh so uh

[2:02:51] this is a a money saving project and

[2:02:53] we're hoping uh you guys pass this for

[2:02:56] us any questions

[2:03:00] concerns and motion so Mo second all in

[2:03:03] favor thank you very much thank you Mr

[2:03:06] fer

[2:03:07] Ferrari um so next we have um a

[2:03:11] ceremonial resolution recognizing syia

[2:03:13] Jon for her service to excuse me I'm

[2:03:15] sorry next item is appointment to the uh

[2:03:17] Board of assessment

[2:03:19] review um I think all us may have gotten

[2:03:22] the email that there was first of all

[2:03:25] there was a a person that left the move from the city and uh so therefore

[2:03:30] was no longer a member of the board of

[2:03:32] assessment review and uh

[2:03:36] then I there's an individual who has put

[2:03:38] who I'm Who I'm putting forward this um

[2:03:40] with this person actually would put

[2:03:42] their name forward when the last person

[2:03:44] actually the person who just left um was

[2:03:47] putting the name both names were up so

[2:03:49] um we know that we're going

[2:03:52] in May going to um begin to start doing

[2:03:55] the U review of the property of

[2:03:57] Assessments and so it's important that

[2:04:00] we have uh someone in that seat so I'm

[2:04:02] recommending Renee Bradley to uh be

[2:04:05] appointed as a member of the board of

[2:04:07] assessment

[2:04:10] review any questions comments or

[2:04:15] concerns yes she had uh she had a most

[2:04:19] definitely a most impressive uh resume

[2:04:24] um my question is so I personally didn't

[2:04:28] know that that the spot was was open

[2:04:31] should we is there time to let other

[2:04:34] individuals submit

[2:04:36] names well um when we sent out the um

[2:04:39] thing on the ethics he came back and

[2:04:41] said so everyone got that email that

[2:04:43] said I'm no longer this person I'm no

[2:04:45] longer on the board so everyone did

[2:04:46] receive that yes we did so what I'm

[2:04:50] saying is

[2:04:53] we knew there was opening we the time is

[2:04:54] of the essence right and again I'm you

[2:04:57] know it's open for discussion but this

[2:04:59] is an indidual that wanted to be on when

[2:05:00] the previous person um left do you have

[2:05:02] an objection to this individual I do not

[2:05:05] oh just asking if there's time to

[2:05:08] suggest other individuals at this time I

[2:05:11] would say with the time constraint we

[2:05:13] should have move forward because whoever

[2:05:14] gets chosen has to also be

[2:05:16] trained do

[2:05:18] that coming

[2:05:20] up

[2:05:23] any other discussion or

[2:05:26] concerns yes just just to clarify this

[2:05:28] for the fiveyear term that's not this is

[2:05:30] not it was an expired term yes it was it

[2:05:34] would be the full fiveyear term yes

[2:05:36] because he he he didn't expire his term

[2:05:40] expired and then then he also moved we

[2:05:42] got something saying they were going to

[2:05:44] reappoint him but then when he answered

[2:05:46] his ethics um email he's like can't

[2:05:49] reappoint me I don't live here okay I'll

[2:05:51] be five okay yes thank

[2:05:56] you in that case I'll ask for a motion

[2:05:58] so I'll second all in

[2:06:02] favor okay the next one is a ceremony

[2:06:05] resolution for Sylvia jimon for her

[2:06:07] service to the city of SKC um as you may

[2:06:11] you probably all got the invitation that

[2:06:13] Mr Jon is no longer um is going to be

[2:06:16] retired her last day is like I don't

[2:06:17] know towards the end of the month 28th

[2:06:19] there there's a party for her

[2:06:22] and uh so as we kind of learned from Mr

[2:06:25] Griffin that generally when things

[2:06:27] happen there isn't art resolution so

[2:06:29] we're going to we know better now we're

[2:06:31] going to do better so we'd like to do

[2:06:33] resolution for Miss jimon for her

[2:06:34] service to the city of skak today any

[2:06:38] questions and motion Mo I'll second all

[2:06:41] in favor I thank you um the next one is

[2:06:45] um ceremony resolution for Pearl suer

[2:06:48] Hunter um some may know some may not uh

[2:06:51] woman does a lot of community service to

[2:06:53] the community she worked at sium she

[2:06:55] currently has a clothing closet so um I

[2:06:59] um wanted to do this just simply she's um observing a milestone birthday

[2:07:05] and um I think that it's always

[2:07:06] important when we you know call people

[2:07:08] out for the work that they do to the

[2:07:09] community and I encourage other council

[2:07:11] members to um to do this as well um it's

[2:07:14] often that we people get recognized as

[2:07:17] people that everybody knows this is

[2:07:19] somebody that many people know but maybe

[2:07:21] not everyone know so I was thinking

[2:07:22] about something and we'll do something

[2:07:24] as side about doing something called

[2:07:25] heral of the community kind of

[2:07:26] recognition every so often but that's

[2:07:28] just me and um how I just like to

[2:07:31] support people so uh but at this time

[2:07:33] I'd like to put forth a resolution for

[2:07:34] Miss tuer

[2:07:36] Hunter any questions or concerns or or

[2:07:39] questions about uh her that I can

[2:07:43] answer all right she all around the

[2:07:45] person that's my answer and St a motion

[2:07:48] so both second all in favor hi um and

[2:07:52] then next one is a ceremony resolution

[2:07:54] recognizing Holly pagwa the Hindu Spring

[2:07:57] Festival Mr muu Baron yeah thank you um

[2:08:00] once again we're asking I'm requesting

[2:08:02] CR to recognize um the Hindu Spring

[2:08:05] Festival we have done this over the last

[2:08:07] several years and we're here once again

[2:08:09] I'm asking for this

[2:08:11] recognition right so Mr M are they going

[2:08:14] to come and dance and do anything for us

[2:08:16] I will get back to you we had the iris

[2:08:20] dances so you know just just

[2:08:24] I'm not in that capacity to say

[2:08:28] that yes I just wanted to welcome Mr M

[2:08:31] and if he wanted to dance for us you can

[2:08:33] definitely we extend that invitation to

[2:08:35] you as well we would like to have our

[2:08:37] city

[2:08:39] come I'll motion so second all in

[2:08:44] favor all right we do

[2:08:48] um I'm kind of trying to like stay with

[2:08:50] the ARP stuff so I kind kind of want to

[2:08:51] bring in if we're going to move forward

[2:08:54] on any of the discussion that we took

[2:08:55] place so I'd like to move that right

[2:08:58] here we um heard from the electricity

[2:09:00] Co-op and we heard from Harver and we

[2:09:02] know with the Empowerment Center there's

[2:09:04] more information that's going to be

[2:09:05] needed before anything can be done so

[2:09:07] this point in time I'd like to discuss

[2:09:10] the two uh presentations that we heard

[2:09:13] and what their requests are and what are

[2:09:16] um what we want to do with that we don't

[2:09:18] want to make the same have the same

[2:09:19] thing happen with that happened with the

[2:09:21] YW where it slipped through the crack so

[2:09:23] at this point in time like to um have

[2:09:25] those things develop discussed on the

[2:09:27] city development and planning and

[2:09:29] whether or not we're going to move

[2:09:30] forward with the asks from those

[2:09:33] groups so

[2:09:35] discussion yes Mr T at this point uh in

[2:09:39] time hearing everything this evening I'm

[2:09:42] not prepared to act on on anything at

[2:09:45] this point um I'd like more time to

[2:09:47] digest what I heard I took all kinds of

[2:09:49] notes so um I'm really not ready tonight

[2:09:52] to speak on

[2:09:55] that so

[2:09:58] um I'm sorry for E either one or either

[2:10:02] one absolutely

[2:10:04] yeah any

[2:10:07] other's go Mr Williams well essentially

[2:10:11] what that does for the Electric City

[2:10:13] Co-Op is that is giving them an

[2:10:14] extension like although we're not

[2:10:16] calling it that by delaying the

[2:10:17] conversation however for the Carver

[2:10:20] Community um Center it is is at the

[2:10:22] expense of their efforts because they're

[2:10:23] not able to proceed forward without a

[2:10:25] determination from the council that's

[2:10:26] what I understood is that correct I

[2:10:29] understood that as well so um let's take

[2:10:32] them one at a time so let's start with

[2:10:33] the Electric City Food Co-op so you're saying that you're not you don't

[2:10:37] feel like you have enough information to

[2:10:38] ask for to I have a lot of information

[2:10:41] that they provided this evening but um

[2:10:43] there's you know I just listen to what

[2:10:47] the other council members have to say

[2:10:48] this evening regarding so there asking

[2:10:51] for a six-month extension and you're not comfortable um at giving well

[2:10:56] they're also asking to um their their um

[2:11:00] lower their match lower their match um

[2:11:04] uh they were asking for 6 months he was

[2:11:07] willing to go to 5 months um you were

[2:11:09] thinking more 3 months I think so again

[2:11:12] there's just a lot that I'm not ready

[2:11:16] to to discuss at to discuss at this

[2:11:19] point any other C is your is your hand

[2:11:22] up is your pen moving around so I I'll

[2:11:25] take the opportunity to say well I as

[2:11:27] far as Electric City Co-Op I def I can

[2:11:30] understand some of the concerns that

[2:11:31] Council m detor is bringing forth I

[2:11:33] think that based on you know um I I

[2:11:36] think what they're asking for is pretty

[2:11:38] much just an extension um and that

[2:11:41] extension still would provide us um time

[2:11:44] if we had the real funds as well as the

[2:11:46] fact that um in in lowering their match

[2:11:49] which I I think um you know know we just

[2:11:52] did with the with the why um because we

[2:11:55] understand that that was just was was a

[2:11:57] bit drastic so I think that would just I

[2:11:59] would personally I'm I'm prepared to

[2:12:01] support um them and and both their ask

[2:12:04] tonight personally but I understand if

[2:12:06] any council members have any other

[2:12:12] reservations sorry I'm

[2:12:14] sorry Coop I mean we had the opportunity

[2:12:17] to listen from their membership we also

[2:12:20] had the opportunity to listen from from

[2:12:21] Metro flights and they kind of like the

[2:12:23] timeline in terms of how much more time

[2:12:26] they

[2:12:27] needed um to move this forward to get

[2:12:30] the lease agreement in place I think

[2:12:33] they at that

[2:12:34] point where they need some more time

[2:12:36] just to get that people working and

[2:12:40] executed I mean I have listen to both

[2:12:43] sides and I am willing to support a 4mth

[2:12:48] extension okay based on information I

[2:12:50] received some Metroplex um commitment

[2:12:54] that this is going to happen within you

[2:12:56] know 3 to 4 months

[2:12:59] or so I'm willing to support that an

[2:13:02] extension of four months four months

[2:13:05] okay um I I I would support that as well

[2:13:09] it's it's not the six months they asked

[2:13:10] for but as you heard me say to them that

[2:13:12] we don't have a lot of time and if this

[2:13:14] can't happen then we would just have to

[2:13:16] we' have to bring that money back and

[2:13:17] there's Mr Ferrari looking like waiting

[2:13:20] um for any money that's coming back

[2:13:23] water so uh I I also am willing to um to

[2:13:28] give them the the 4month

[2:13:30] extension and um the other part of it is

[2:13:34] uh lowering the match but we' have to

[2:13:37] make sure that we're comfortable with

[2:13:38] that as

[2:13:39] well Mr Williams I would say my only

[2:13:42] response to that is that they were very

[2:13:44] clear in that that they would were

[2:13:46] asking for the five months and then

[2:13:48] worrying whether that was um enough time

[2:13:51] to proceed with the uh site plans or

[2:13:54] site discussions I I would like to say

[2:13:57] like I I don't take lightly having

[2:13:58] represented from Metroplex here and

[2:14:01] seemed like they're very confident in

[2:14:02] where the project was and then also

[2:14:04] understanding of the timelines that

[2:14:05] we're against so I very much appreciated

[2:14:07] the the risk and and benefit timet taes

[2:14:10] that were both there but I was not in

[2:14:12] favor of the 6 months I think and and

[2:14:15] what seems to be the common theme but to

[2:14:17] me it definitely seemed apparent that 5

[2:14:19] months was was the the minimum

[2:14:22] time just to be clear U Mr CC did say

[2:14:26] four did he yes he

[2:14:30] did is there something you want to add

[2:14:33] to

[2:14:34] this just don't

[2:14:37] drag not familiar with the project

[2:14:40] question um so you're yes Mr Toro um

[2:14:44] Eric Johnson did ask for five I know yes

[2:14:48] just and yes and Mr CC said four so do

[2:14:52] we meet in the middle and make it four

[2:14:53] and a half I guess it becomes a question

[2:14:55] no I'm sticking with four four months

[2:14:57] okay we got four over there you have a

[2:15:00] question yeah I just I mean I would just

[2:15:01] think if I don't know what the value of

[2:15:05] is of splitting splitting it there I

[2:15:08] mean if we can if we can if 6 months as

[2:15:12] our timeline is approaching if the

[2:15:13] council feels that that's too much time

[2:15:15] then I think that the right thing to do

[2:15:18] would be to at least Grant the 5 months

[2:15:21] um and I think that they were saying 5

[2:15:23] months with the understanding that

[2:15:24] they're going to try to get it done but before that 5 month time period so I

[2:15:29] would just caution us not to kind of

[2:15:31] split teirs and position them in a place

[2:15:33] that they can't get it done in the time

[2:15:34] and then they have to come back again so

[2:15:36] I think

[2:15:37] that right and part being that there's

[2:15:40] no opportunity for them to do that I

[2:15:42] would say that it would kind of compel

[2:15:43] us a little more to go to 5 months

[2:15:46] so just think about that well it's that

[2:15:50] that's where so Mr Mr M who is this is

[2:15:53] the committee it's in has said four

[2:15:55] months is is as close as he can get to

[2:15:57] six am I correct that is correct

[2:16:01] yes

[2:16:04] so then we have no choice because it's

[2:16:06] six months or

[2:16:08] it's because uh excuse me it's four

[2:16:10] months or um because we don't have a

[2:16:12] third person here so we'd have to both

[2:16:14] agree on the four

[2:16:16] months so are you willing to make that

[2:16:19] motion and unless there's more

[2:16:21] discussion around this we I would

[2:16:22] entertain the four months yes disc in to

[2:16:26] move that yes Madam president it's a

[2:16:29] four-month extension and then there's a

[2:16:32] are you also putting in where the match

[2:16:35] is as well at as far as that same motion

[2:16:38] so it's would be part of all the same

[2:16:41] resolution yes yes yes yes and that and

[2:16:44] that number is uh what's the number that

[2:16:46] you're you're looking at I thought

[2:16:49] I

[2:16:51] I'm sorry 3 milon 3 million I think was

[2:16:54] it was it three 1.8 1.8

[2:17:00] okay no 1.8 is what I have

[2:17:05] here count 1 Point 1.8 so lowering the

[2:17:08] match to

[2:17:10] from um what was the match from Miss car

[2:17:15] is

[2:17:16] gone it was 5.7 okay okay so it it's 5.7

[2:17:20] to 1.8 with a 4mon extension that's the

[2:17:24] resolution

[2:17:26] that well they saying they were getting

[2:17:28] 3 million from the county so

[2:17:31] it's that money would have to be there

[2:17:34] also and then the Gap would they would

[2:17:37] work with the developer be roughly the

[2:17:38] 1.8 million right

[2:17:43] yes so is that the motion yes moving

[2:17:46] forward all right I'll second it all

[2:17:49] those in favor I

[2:17:52] okay uh we'll move on to the

[2:17:55] Carver Cooperative Community Center um

[2:18:01] so I heard the

[2:18:05] presentation and so there ask was to

[2:18:08] have ownership of the building return um

[2:18:11] to continue with the

[2:18:13] 1.25 um million in funding and

[2:18:17] partnership from the

[2:18:18] city and I open that up for

[2:18:24] discussion Mr M yeah um suggesting that

[2:18:30] we hold off on making any allocation at

[2:18:33] this point in time because first of all

[2:18:35] they're not a register entity at this

[2:18:37] point in time so I don't know how we can

[2:18:38] do business with them okay and we have

[2:18:41] to transfer the property back and I'm

[2:18:43] not sure where we are in terms of the

[2:18:46] original reort CLA back to from the mar

[2:18:49] Craig to the city

[2:18:51] and then we have to transfer that

[2:18:52] building back to this legal entity which

[2:18:54] is not created so I think we just need

[2:18:56] to give them time to make that happen in

[2:18:58] the next couple of weeks they promise

[2:19:00] and then we can rase that at a point in

[2:19:02] time okay CU I don't think we should

[2:19:05] move forward legally at this point in

[2:19:07] time because there is no legal entity

[2:19:09] that makes sense Mr barash could you just tell who we are in terms

[2:19:13] of the building um it's been deposited

[2:19:15] for recording um I can take a look into

[2:19:18] tomorrow if we've received

[2:19:21] okay all right thank you all right so I agree with that we do need to make

[2:19:26] sure it's a legal entity um we kind of

[2:19:28] ran into that problem down at the uh

[2:19:30] Stockade so we don't want to have that

[2:19:32] again oh thought you raising your hand

[2:19:35] see don't move don't move your hands yes

[2:19:38] not okay um so so we would just wait and

[2:19:42] ask them to come back in two weeks or we

[2:19:44] can we can actually have Miss Carver

[2:19:46] reach out when they're when they've

[2:19:47] gotten their legal

[2:19:49] entity decided been covered and all of

[2:19:51] that in place they can come back and let

[2:19:53] us know that yeah that's what I was

[2:19:54] recommending okay once that is in place

[2:19:56] they can just let us know and we can

[2:19:59] have that back on the agenda get

[2:20:01] information to Mr T yes

[2:20:04] mayor in the other aspect they're still

[2:20:07] working on the numbers that were bid a

[2:20:10] while ago M so think we have to approach

[2:20:14] that with some level of caution that's

[2:20:17] going to probably have to go back out to

[2:20:19] bid uh

[2:20:21] in worth the million two from the city's

[2:20:25] perspective the numbers are really a

[2:20:28] little over 3

[2:20:29] million

[2:20:31] uh

[2:20:33] and I'm skeptical of what their Alli we

[2:20:37] take the million to and go in and just

[2:20:38] do kind

[2:20:40] of half the project you want to have all

[2:20:42] the money lined up so in fact we're

[2:20:45] going to get a building and a program

[2:20:48] delivery of service that's really going

[2:20:49] to

[2:20:51] actually exist and be able to go forward

[2:20:54] and not have a building that's just

[2:20:56] halfway through a rehab

[2:21:00] project so we're going to ask them I'll

[2:21:02] come back and one thing that you did

[2:21:04] mention I don't know how we can help and

[2:21:06] hope that we can help that the Craig

[2:21:07] main connection is going to be right

[2:21:09] there this building is right on Craig

[2:21:10] Street and so how do we leverage any

[2:21:13] type of funding to assist with that

[2:21:16] building since it's right on there and

[2:21:17] part of the Craig main project if that's

[2:21:21] a possibility and I'm not saying that's

[2:21:24] a question that needs to be answered

[2:21:25] right here right now but I think it's a

[2:21:27] it's something that we should really

[2:21:28] consider in terms of um it looks like

[2:21:31] we're in the proc we're in the place

[2:21:32] where we are assisting organizations to

[2:21:34] make sure that they can do what they

[2:21:35] need to do and so if there's an

[2:21:37] opportunity with the Craig M project

[2:21:39] being right there that we could somehow

[2:21:41] assist to make this project move forward

[2:21:43] as was mentioned it's on the historic

[2:21:45] register now so it's not like we just

[2:21:47] can run in there and tear it down um so

[2:21:50] you know those those concerns we should

[2:21:52] we have to keep in mind as well so yes I

[2:21:56] think some of the concerns with the the

[2:21:57] previous um project managers was just

[2:22:00] wanting to have more structure and I

[2:22:02] think that was very well presented today

[2:22:05] uh I think in the the one month that

[2:22:07] they've been able to prepare uh I was

[2:22:10] truly I valued what work they were able

[2:22:12] to do and then also the understanding of

[2:22:15] they weren't starting from zero they

[2:22:16] were continuing on the work that was

[2:22:17] already established and so part of my

[2:22:19] hope is that taking this new uh uh

[2:22:22] repackaged energy and then presenting

[2:22:25] that to some local Partners I think that

[2:22:26] puts them in a very different place uh

[2:22:28] but very much to the mayor's point I

[2:22:30] would hate for us to have fund a project

[2:22:32] and then we have a bigger issue come

[2:22:34] winter with uh now we are committed how

[2:22:36] do we finish this um but I I definitely

[2:22:39] am very optimistic um but uh we need to

[2:22:42] make sure that there is an appropriate

[2:22:44] plan in place to make sure they have the

[2:22:45] full funding

[2:22:48] so all right so we're going to just wait

[2:22:50] on that we have Miss Carver yes okay and

[2:22:54] I think we all agree with the

[2:22:55] Empowerment Center we just need a lot

[2:22:56] more information in terms of what the ask is what the plan is and all of

[2:23:01] that from our affirmative action

[2:23:03] [Music]

[2:23:05] officer all right so um then let's move

[2:23:09] on to item number eight uh 1675 watt

[2:23:12] Street utility East Miss

[2:23:15] BR um May about b car this is a lot uh

[2:23:22] is everybody familiar with where it is

[2:23:25] from the super power the corner of wat

[2:23:28] Dwayne uh that was originally a

[2:23:32] pond uh that was filled in it's part of

[2:23:35] uh some more tension Pond that was built

[2:23:38] in the woodlon reserve M uh there's a uh

[2:23:43] cul that runs through there I can't

[2:23:44] remember it's 6 or 8 ft in diameter

[2:23:47] really big pipe and so it's the current

[2:23:51] is lot is owned by the Industrial

[2:23:53] Development agency they have a uh

[2:23:56] proposal for the site and this would

[2:23:58] give an easement across the site uh

[2:24:02] delineating the uh drainage pipe that

[2:24:06] goes

[2:24:08] underground David if you have

[2:24:14] anyse thank you I'm the Ida today Scott

[2:24:17] was the was Metroplex everything the

[2:24:20] mayor just to um keep going with what

[2:24:21] the mayor was saying well the Ida's own

[2:24:23] this since the 9s uh it was made into a

[2:24:26] parking lot uh it hasn't been used since

[2:24:28] I've been here over 10 plus years uh the

[2:24:31] city uh when they reconfigured the the

[2:24:34] roadway and the pond they didn't uh

[2:24:37] provide the city an easement for the

[2:24:38] infrastructure so we've owned it with

[2:24:40] your infrastructure going through it uh

[2:24:42] we have uh a company that's looking to a

[2:24:44] storage facility there it's a proposal

[2:24:47] that fits well with movable storage

[2:24:49] units on the uh area of the easement uh

[2:24:52] they're interested in um in developing

[2:24:55] the site get it back from the tax RS for

[2:24:56] the first time we want to make sure

[2:24:57] we're preserving the city's

[2:24:59] infrastructure uh so that you have your

[2:25:01] rights to enter it um maintain it uh

[2:25:04] make improvements um it's pretty it's

[2:25:06] something that we had the Ida attorneys

[2:25:08] uh work on uh to be favorable towards

[2:25:10] the city so that you preserve all your

[2:25:12] rights that you need to access the

[2:25:15] infrastructur all the documents are

[2:25:17] there before you are there any questions

[2:25:20] comments

[2:25:21] concerns no I'm I'm move this all right

[2:25:25] I'll second all those in favor thank you

[2:25:27] very much thank you

[2:25:32] mayor um oh there is one other one item

[2:25:35] that um it's came it's uh separate in

[2:25:38] your package to do this before we go

[2:25:39] into executive sessions um it's

[2:25:43] regarding the additions to the um

[2:25:45] Community benefits agreement that is

[2:25:47] submitted by the city council we

[2:25:48] discussed it a couple years ago

[2:25:51] a couple of weeks ago it feels like

[2:25:53] years a couple of weeks ago and um in

[2:25:56] speaking with the mayor um he says that

[2:25:58] what we would have to do in order to we

[2:26:00] at the last meeting uh the mayor said

[2:26:02] he's open to having these additional

[2:26:04] discussions with um West yard properties

[2:26:07] and other parties involved and so um in

[2:26:10] speaking with him today he said that in

[2:26:12] order to even to get to the point where

[2:26:14] have a discussion but what the city

[2:26:16] council would need to do is actually

[2:26:18] move forward um a resolution that we

[2:26:20] wanted to make these U amendments to the

[2:26:23] um Community benefits agreement that

[2:26:25] would be um that that was was entered

[2:26:28] into this doesn't mean that exactly what

[2:26:31] is here is what would happen but these

[2:26:33] are the items that would be brought

[2:26:35] forth for

[2:26:39] discussion any questions about

[2:26:43] that so what I'd be looking for this

[2:26:45] evening is a resolution to actually um

[2:26:48] to say these are the things that we

[2:26:49] would want to discuss in terms of um

[2:26:53] amending the community benefits

[2:26:56] agreement so we're saying that we need

[2:26:58] to have a resolution in place before the

[2:27:01] conversation takes place this this

[2:27:03] becomes the formal position of the

[2:27:08] council so right I guess what I'm acting

[2:27:12] I'm asking around the order of

[2:27:13] operations in other words there can

[2:27:15] still be a conversation yes okay but

[2:27:19] this becomes what

[2:27:20] we've had uh different people say

[2:27:23] different things so it's at this point

[2:27:25] I'm ter it's informal conversation this

[2:27:28] becomes a formal position of the council

[2:27:30] by passing The

[2:27:31] Resolution oh okay all

[2:27:35] right uh

[2:27:38] so I mean I I I would suggest that

[2:27:42] there's um maybe a meeting held um and

[2:27:47] the conversation happens prior to that

[2:27:49] cuzz I think that that conver ation

[2:27:50] should really inform some of uh what we're requesting and that would be

[2:27:56] my thought but but but the mayor is

[2:27:58] clearly stating is that conversation

[2:28:01] will not take place until we formally

[2:28:03] say this is what we'd like to have

[2:28:05] considered is I I asked the same

[2:28:07] question and am I stating it prop the

[2:28:11] way in which you're saying so that

[2:28:13] before we do that we have to actually

[2:28:15] say these are the things that we would

[2:28:16] like you to consider in the form of

[2:28:18] resolution is what the mayor is saying

[2:28:21] not the conversation and then not that

[2:28:23] way what the the resolution has to say

[2:28:25] these are the amendments that we'd like

[2:28:26] to see added to the community benefits

[2:28:31] agreement yes Mr Williams and I I

[2:28:34] understand or I'm hearing U from Mr Mr

[2:28:37] Farley's point I think based on how uh

[2:28:39] our actions are being being dictated

[2:28:41] that we have to continue in I think

[2:28:43] passing the resolution in that manner

[2:28:44] kind of protects us to ensure that hey

[2:28:47] we're putting forth these ideas or these

[2:28:49] re commendations but this in no way uh I think minimizes the importance of

[2:28:54] having that

[2:28:56] conversation yes Mr uh Madam president

[2:28:59] perhaps a a joint letter you know

[2:29:01] something less than a formal resolution

[2:29:05] but something that the a letter a letter

[2:29:09] circulate among the members was ever in

[2:29:11] FA you know say yes you have all the

[2:29:14] council members sign that and then

[2:29:16] submit that to the mayor is that

[2:29:17] acceptable yes okay okay all right um Mr

[2:29:22] mud I'm sorry your hand was up or not

[2:29:25] yeah yeah I think we should move forward

[2:29:26] with a resolution a formal resolution

[2:29:29] and then you know bring this to the

[2:29:31] table and let's discuss it with via

[2:29:33] formal resolution in

[2:29:35] place and then start a discussion from

[2:29:38] then on something that is more official

[2:29:40] from the city

[2:29:41] council well Mr O'Brian is saying we

[2:29:43] could do the letter and then the

[2:29:44] resolution would be the amended CBA

[2:29:47] right what I'm saying is as a joint a

[2:29:49] joint joint letter of the position of

[2:29:51] the these the council members as a joint

[2:29:54] letter these are these are the issu

[2:29:56] these are what we want in the in the uh

[2:30:00] in the agreement these are the these are

[2:30:02] the points that we wish to have pointed

[2:30:03] in an agreement as a as a Point of

[2:30:05] Departure if at a later point that you

[2:30:07] feel that you need to underscore that

[2:30:09] you can always do a

[2:30:11] resolution oh okay I'm just offering

[2:30:14] that for suggestion pures Mr turo your

[2:30:17] hand what

[2:30:18] up yes

[2:30:20] so if we have a resolution or a joint

[2:30:24] letter position these are the these

[2:30:26] points so that would only let us discuss

[2:30:29] these five five

[2:30:32] options correct yes that would only lead

[2:30:35] to

[2:30:35] discussion

[2:30:38] um and it would it would be in the um

[2:30:42] City Planning and Development Committee

[2:30:46] yes so let me just reiterate we talked

[2:30:50] about this emails have been sent out

[2:30:52] there have been multiple opportunities

[2:30:53] if there's more than five that people

[2:30:55] wanted to so this was not a closed

[2:30:57] discussion and everyone had an

[2:30:59] opportunity to State what they wanted so

[2:31:01] if this is what the end result was based

[2:31:04] on the input that was received because

[2:31:05] there were opportunities for

[2:31:07] input yes Mr Farley I just so again I

[2:31:10] think that I uh appreciate what our

[2:31:14] Corporation councel is sharing I think

[2:31:15] that and let me know Mr Mayor if I'm

[2:31:17] wrong the mayor there has been a lot of

[2:31:19] convers ations that have happened so I

[2:31:21] think that the letter a letter will be

[2:31:24] really clear as to what we are

[2:31:28] collectively proposing um and I just I

[2:31:31] just don't think we should put a

[2:31:32] resolution in place for something that a

[2:31:34] letter can do that

[2:31:36] would uh then form the resolution so

[2:31:39] kind of the this is the what we're

[2:31:41] asking officially and then that allows

[2:31:43] for that um discourse to happen and then

[2:31:46] we can move forward with a resolution in

[2:31:48] an a formed resolution at that

[2:31:51] point yes Mr resolution is from the city

[2:31:56] council putting forward uh this formal

[2:31:59] request to open

[2:32:02] discussion with regards to these Five

[2:32:05] Points sure I guess I just didn't know

[2:32:07] we needed a resolution to do that I'm

[2:32:08] still not sure I still don't agree that

[2:32:10] we need a resolution to do that how

[2:32:12] about that that's say that's fine again

[2:32:16] I I thought the same way I had a

[2:32:18] discussion with the mayor and the mayor

[2:32:19] says that a resolution is what is needed

[2:32:21] at this point I understood that's

[2:32:23] exactly I understand what you're saying

[2:32:25] but um I had that question I went to the

[2:32:28] mayor he said we our for we need to

[2:32:30] State our formal position in the form of

[2:32:32] a resolution and so that this does not

[2:32:34] Kick the Can down the road any

[2:32:36] further I'm willing to to move in that

[2:32:39] direction because we time is of the

[2:32:41] essence and I mean I know it's going to

[2:32:43] be a while but um we you know we were

[2:32:48] trying to get this done a little bit bit

[2:32:50] quicker things turned out differently Mr

[2:32:54] Toro yes so I wouldn't be in favor of a

[2:32:56] resolution AR rathera because the uh

[2:32:59] Community benefits agreement is already

[2:33:00] in place and I'm happy and satisfied

[2:33:03] with what was presented to uh West yard

[2:33:06] Properties LLC and um so that's kind of

[2:33:10] where I stand on okay thank you

[2:33:13] absolutely you realize that it said

[2:33:14] nothing about mwbe hiring so you're not

[2:33:17] interested in making sure we meet those

[2:33:18] goals I

[2:33:21] please don't question me on my on what I

[2:33:24] but that's part of a standard contract

[2:33:26] right we we heard that that the the

[2:33:28] contractors have their own yes yes but I

[2:33:31] would really like to see that in there

[2:33:33] I'm I'm happy with what was presented

[2:33:36] thank you so I'm I'm have some concerns

[2:33:39] and other council member has concerns

[2:33:40] and we put them forward so that's good

[2:33:42] thank

[2:33:44] you so the discussion on the table is

[2:33:47] are we moving forward with the

[2:33:49] resolution or uh the letter Mr I I'm I'm

[2:33:52] supporting moving forward with the

[2:33:53] resolution okay to start a discussion a

[2:33:56] formal resolution to discuss this okay M

[2:34:00] I'm just I want to ask Corporation

[2:34:02] Council for clarity do in other words we

[2:34:04] it's you know it's how formalized you

[2:34:07] want to make it it's how formalized you

[2:34:09] want to make it a letter would certainly

[2:34:11] intend you with signatures of those

[2:34:14] members who are signing on to that

[2:34:16] particular point you know those points

[2:34:19] it gets the message across to the the

[2:34:21] mayor the mayor is indicated he would

[2:34:23] accept such a letter but if you want to

[2:34:25] have it a much more formal formal

[2:34:28] resolution that's that's up to the

[2:34:30] council as well it's it's certainly it's

[2:34:32] how formal you want to do that you do a

[2:34:36] letter you delivered tomorrow a

[2:34:38] resolution you got to wait till next

[2:34:40] week um but the you know the points are

[2:34:42] still there but it's what you all want

[2:34:44] to do as far as uh how you want to

[2:34:48] proceed either way okay Mr will your

[2:34:51] hands up I have no issues with a formal

[2:34:54] resolution all

[2:34:57] right so um at this point in time the

[2:35:01] this just may point out there's a te

[2:35:02] missing in the word Community benefit

[2:35:04] agreement on the top on the last line of

[2:35:06] the top paragraph so we'll make that

[2:35:09] correction um so at this time it seems

[2:35:12] the consensus is that we would move

[2:35:14] forward with

[2:35:15] um passing a formal resolution to

[2:35:18] present these this language in here to

[2:35:22] amend the um Community benefits

[2:35:25] agreement so second all in favor I I

[2:35:30] thank you the final items are for

[2:35:34] property sales and therefore we've done

[2:35:36] an executive session uh need a motions

[2:35:39] to go into executive session Some Mo

[2:35:42] second all in favor I we're an executive

[2:35:45] session and members of the public will

[2:35:47] have to

[2:35:48] leave

[2:35:50] a

Schenectady City Council Committee Meeting, March 18, 2024

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