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[2:38] I'd like to call the or concy city

[2:39] council committee meeting for Monday May

[2:41] 20th 2024 and the first committee is

[2:44] Public Safety Mr Williams thank you so

[2:46] I'd like to call the order Public Safety

[2:48] we have one item on the agenda tonight

[2:50] that is the lead of Women Voters super

[2:52] recommendation

[2:54] May thank you Mr chairman the submitted

[2:58] uh names the recommendation from uh Leal

[3:02] woman voters ask for the favorable

[3:04] consideration councel you any questions

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[3:09] comments move second all in favor I are

[3:13] there any other items to call public sa

[3:15] the committee any have motion toour so

[3:18] move second all in

[3:21] favor I would like to call the finance

[3:23] committee to order and the first item is

[3:25] the annual fee waiver for exterior

[3:28] building repair

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[3:34] from everyone should have received an

[3:37] email from the last week with regards to

[3:39] the the 2023

[3:42] reports um this

[3:45] year I'm looking to continue this

[3:48] exterior perit waiver for the period of

[3:50] June 1st to August

[3:53] 31st and there is

[3:57] a there is a dve um

[4:00] letter and package to kind of identify

[4:02] the same thing from the previous years

[4:05] we just continue with the changing the

[4:07] dates and and continue to carry this

[4:09] program forward last year um we were

[4:12] able to give back to our neighborhood

[4:14] almost

[4:16] $24,000 as incentive for encouraging

[4:18] home owners to um pull permits which is

[4:21] very important make sure they pull the

[4:23] permit get it inspected by the our court

[4:26] enforcement offic so make sure they are

[4:27] doing the correct thing and applying the

[4:29] code evenly across so I'm looking um to

[4:33] continue this program and to continue

[4:35] our give back to our neighborhood as

[4:38] they continue to revitalize the neighood

[4:40] across the

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[4:42] city open for

[4:45] questions go ahead please uh so thank

[4:48] you definitely sounds like a wonderful

[4:50] opportunity to offer our our homeowners

[4:52] or individuals wanting to like do this

[4:54] type of work in their homes um based on

[4:57] the conversation we're able to have and

[4:59] definitely I like to see a

[5:00] substantiating documentation on the back

[5:02] end to speak to some of the added

[5:04] benefits to our community uh as we seek

[5:07] to have more budgetary conversations

[5:09] throughout the year leading up to this

[5:11] upcoming budget season I just want to

[5:12] make sure at least I am being consistent

[5:15] and evaluating all um opportunities

[5:17] where we are trying to make a

[5:20] concessions with our community just so

[5:22] we can speak to those in in further

[5:23] detail when the question is ultimately

[5:25] asked how do we pass a uh successful

[5:27] budget that the mayor will approve

[5:32] am questions go ahead please chairman

[5:35] the wording

[5:38] uh highlight have for the maximum permit

[5:41] value of

[5:44] $35,000 that for the construction value

[5:47] of 35,000 not the value

[5:50] of permit fees no no no that's a

[5:53] construction value so and this applies

[5:57] to residential construction that is

[6:00] that's correct yes on one to four unit

[6:03] residential property one to four

[6:05] units for bullet on the

[6:08] bottom go ahead please I just um wanted

[6:11] to have you highlight I think that you

[6:13] had told us how much it was that we

[6:16] saved the residents last year it was

[6:17] around yes I did mention that but I can

[6:19] pull that last year on the the regular

[6:23] permit that's the application fee wave

[6:25] was

[6:27] $4,280 for a total of

[6:32] 200 255 permits that was pulled within

[6:36] that period of time that was weigh

[6:41] $56 this back here and then the fencing

[6:44] was U 24 permits Val

[6:47] $1200 and Roofing $85 permits $8,500

[6:51] totally

[6:52] $23,988

[6:54] uh this is the largest um incentive give

[6:58] back to our community is the highest

[7:00] year last

[7:02] year and um know there homeowners are

[7:05] looking forward for this um some of us

[7:08] might say it's U we're losing Revenue

[7:10] but at the same time we're giving back

[7:11] to our community we're buying in to them

[7:13] re having the houses and at the same

[7:16] time this is our incentive towards them

[7:18] continue to pull the permit rather than

[7:20] them working without permits on weekends

[7:23] and evening and not pulling a permit by

[7:25] allowing them to pull the permit W up

[7:27] the fees and get the work done

[7:31] that's for

[7:37] required go ahead please sorry okay so

[7:40] um Mr M usually four um it's usually one

[7:42] to three there res four units don't they

[7:44] become commercial a four unit

[7:47] residence I I would not be able to

[7:50] answer but this is the same uh

[7:51] information that we had from the

[7:53] beginning so we just carrying power here

[7:54] to years so there's been a lot of

[7:56] discussion lately about commercial

[7:58] versus residential so I mean it's I

[8:01] don't have a problem changing it to one

[8:03] to three I mean this is something that

[8:04] we've been carrying year to year so as

[8:06] we revisit it we can make changes as we

[8:08] go along so if there is

[8:12] a an agreement to to change to one to

[8:15] three

[8:16] I that um so president pfield is right

[8:21] so there's been a lot about you know

[8:22] four units become like a commercial

[8:24] trash versus residential trash but you

[8:27] probably just check what with code and Zoning just to make

[8:33] sure and then change it to three if need

[8:35] be

[8:39] or I mean we can I'm up to I mean

[8:43] changing it the want to me that's um the

[8:47] council's direction I'm okay with

[8:49] changing it 1 to three 1 to three okay

[8:58] yeah so Mr M with this um it it it

[9:02] increases the value of the home does

[9:03] that also

[9:05] increase assessment assessment on their

[9:08] property well at some stage if an

[9:12] extension is done or A change is done on

[9:15] the property while they're doing

[9:16] construction yeah that will take an

[9:18] assessment

[9:20] increase that's what Mr MO is saying

[9:23] generally if it is a maintenance issue

[9:26] it does not increase the value of the

[9:28] property if it's an expansion

[9:32] or increase in the functionality of the

[9:34] property then the assessment would go

[9:38] up go ahead please and then from our

[9:40] conversation I don't know if I was

[9:42] explicit in in this setting but I would

[9:44] like to see um an account of how many uh

[9:49] expansion efforts and then what was that

[9:51] additional value added to our city just

[9:53] so we can properly identify the full

[9:55] impact of this program and then since it

[9:57] has been year to year to here or it's

[10:00] been here since I've been on the council

[10:02] I think an appropriate conversation

[10:03] would then be um how do we evaluate

[10:05] maybe streamline this into into the

[10:07] budget if that's an opportunity but uh I

[10:10] think looking at the permanency of this

[10:12] and then are there other facets of uh

[10:14] coding that we can evaluate for these

[10:16] types of gains as well if that's what

[10:19] the data

[10:21] reads go Mr M would this have already

[10:25] then however been a part of our budget

[10:27] planning for 202

[10:29] for talk so that's something we can

[10:32] consider to add this into the line as

[10:34] a revenue reduction can I say give back

[10:38] so we can account this in and out of the

[10:40] budget on code's

[10:43] Department I

[10:45] am we will have to engage the assessor

[10:48] office to look at the the 255 plus 2485

[10:54] cor to see which one triggers an

[10:56] expansion or a

[10:57] change that uh would ultimately U adjust

[11:01] the assessment

[11:05] value that is something I can reach out

[11:07] to and and see if we can get that done

[11:10] thank

[11:11] you go ahead so timing wise though we'll

[11:14] put this back um because we'd have to

[11:16] come back to our next committee meeting

[11:18] is that what you wanting us to do we are you because we're looking to have

[11:22] this start on June 1st is that some

[11:26] information you wanted to to kind of get

[11:28] on hand and then look at it over into

[11:30] next year so I would say since it would

[11:32] appear that many residents in the city

[11:34] have functioned with this understanding

[11:35] already in mind I think delaying that

[11:37] especially you speak so confidently

[11:38] about the program I'm not challenging

[11:40] that I think for me I would like to ask

[11:42] to kind of continue and then should we

[11:44] identify any uh variations I I would

[11:47] like to have the opportunity to kind of

[11:48] readdress this at the council yes

[11:50] absolutely we u i I do have notes and

[11:53] that we'll follow up and get those

[11:55] reports to all of us so will we have the

[11:57] reports by um Friday are you saying

[12:00] before we get to um not okay I been able to answer that

[12:05] control with staff availability I will

[12:09] send out request to the May sh and ask

[12:12] the staff

[12:13] to to get that report for us

[12:17] okay I'm guessing it shouldn't be long

[12:19] because the reports that reports appear

[12:22] but it's just that they have to look at

[12:23] the type of formats that was

[12:25] pulled the type of work that was done

[12:31] any other

[12:33] comments no but next week is May 28th I

[12:35] mean our our meeting is May 28 yes so

[12:38] that's what we move forward with this

[12:40] and we'll follow up with those reports

[12:42] and make sure you have them in hand so

[12:44] in the future I would ask for that going

[12:47] forward along with the permit report I

[12:50] would ask for also the expansion or

[12:52] anything of maor impact thank you I just

[12:56] do have one other comment about putting

[12:58] in the budget um I'm not so sure that we could do that and make it work

[13:02] because in the budget we give a uh

[13:05] definite number like let's say 25,000

[13:07] but if there are more people that take

[13:08] advantage when we get to that $25,000

[13:10] what happens then so we we want to keep

[13:13] in mind if we give a definitive number

[13:15] then when we get there what happens to

[13:17] the people that may go over I know that

[13:18] it's not something we need to discuss

[13:20] today because we're not in budget season

[13:21] yet but coming close um then you know we

[13:24] can talk about then so I just want to

[13:26] make sure that we consider that you know

[13:29] we've made this work the normal

[13:30] budgetary process would be is you have

[13:33] to find some way to offset this

[13:35] right

[13:38] so I shouldn't say Rost

[13:42] cost all right any other comments so but

[13:44] I understood Mr M to say that there's

[13:47] been return on investment based has

[13:49] there any has there been a return on

[13:50] investment with this program what what

[13:53] the coun what the city has waved has

[13:55] there been an increase in um well that's

[13:58] the report we going to look at we never

[14:00] looked at it nobody never has where

[14:02] we're looking it as the incentive of

[14:04] getting back 20 almost $24,000 so work

[14:08] was performed 255 permit regular permit

[14:11] was pulled within that that given time

[14:14] period last year plus the 24 plus the 85

[14:18] permits within that 3 months

[14:21] time so a lot of work was done during

[14:23] that that period of

[14:27] time and then uh sorry

[14:30] go ahead please and if I just lastly add

[14:32] definitely looking forward to planning

[14:33] my uh um shadowing of the Cod Department

[14:36] in the near future really excited about

[14:38] that um but I would love to hear from

[14:41] this department um there after this

[14:43] season uh just to understand to get a

[14:45] better indication of if there are any

[14:48] unforeseen hurdles or issues that they

[14:50] notice when they're in but I always love

[14:52] your information and sharing it with the

[14:55] table and and I just would like to add

[14:57] one other Mr M and since we have um new

[15:00] uh person heading up the cod's

[15:01] department I think it's make make sure

[15:02] we get this information CU they're not

[15:04] going to be familiar with it they

[15:05] weren't here last year no I did have the

[15:08] chief B request a meeting with him I met

[15:11] with him a couple weeks ago okay because

[15:14] when I asked for the report he asked so

[15:15] he did submit a report and asked to have

[15:17] a brief meeting so I high like the

[15:19] program okay with him all right yes and

[15:22] I walking through the detail of the

[15:23] program so you get a better

[15:24] understanding of this program that we

[15:26] are running for the last several years

[15:28] thank you

[15:31] all right so the only change we're going

[15:33] to have in this document here is that

[15:34] the first bullet on the bottom section

[15:37] is that residential property one to

[15:39] three

[15:42] units all right S have a motion to move

[15:45] I'll make the motion so move second all in favor I I thank you the

[15:53] next

[15:56] item is a swimming pool operat agreement

[15:59] with boys and

[16:03] Club you going do that me

[16:07] to I don't Council has any question that

[16:10] this is just a basic renewal of our

[16:13] operating agreement with the poison

[16:15] Girls Club to run the swimming

[16:17] pools uh they have submitted a uh

[16:21] proposal just under

[16:24] $200,000 uh it's

[16:27] uh a little flexibility with Central

[16:30] Park opening so playing around with what

[16:33] those hours would be where might extend

[16:37] them somewhat based on demand or

[16:40] weather uh it's a good partnership and

[16:44] relationship where they do the Staffing

[16:46] for the lifeguards and related activity

[16:48] and uh again we're looking forward to

[16:51] having Central Park pool open up and

[16:55] running question go ahead please so um

[16:58] you said a little bit of FX ility would

[16:59] made a change in the cost but maybe the

[17:01] hours is the only thing the actual cost

[17:03] I think went up a little bit in this

[17:06] I'll give you the numbers from last year

[17:08] this this is up a few th000 from what we

[17:11] paid last year but it reflects the

[17:15] hourly rate for the

[17:18] lifeguards okay M how many years have

[17:21] the boys and girls been doing this go

[17:23] ahead please goe sorry how many years

[17:27] have Bo

[17:35] been any other

[17:37] comments second second all in favor any

[17:41] other business for

[17:42] finance we have a motion to

[17:45] adour move second all in

[17:50] favor

[17:52] governments I would like to call to

[17:53] order government operation and for on to

[17:57] request the authorization dep part

[17:59] hydrochloric acid 2024 for the water

[18:06] department I'll cover this uh so like it

[18:09] say every year the water department

[18:10] solists bid for hydrop forc acid for our

[18:15] water wells um chemical is used in the

[18:17] treatment of our Municipal Water um we

[18:19] put it out the bid a low bid was

[18:21] received from Univar Solutions and

[18:22] $51,100 uh are Au recommending to

[18:27] purchase the product from Universal

[18:28] solutions for our Mr

[18:31] water

[18:33] questions seeing none I have a motion to

[18:38] move so Mo second all in favor I I thank

[18:44] you any other business for government

[18:46] operation motions for second all in

[18:49] favor I I thank you thank you I'd like

[18:52] to call the order City development and

[18:54] planning uh we have 17 items on the

[18:56] agenda the first item is the discussion

[18:58] a possible agreement regarding pad bolts

[19:00] in Central Park I don't see Mr lefon

[19:03] present is there anyone that's supposed

[19:05] to be taking this over for him if not no

[19:09] I'll address it this is a proposal that

[19:11] has come in to operate paddle boats in

[19:15] the

[19:17] uh cities connect to zise

[19:20] plake uh really I'm recommending that we

[19:24] entertain this I don't have a

[19:29] be structured

[19:31] or uh look to charge people could be as

[19:36] cheap as a few hundred might be

[19:41] $1,000 the city council president gets a

[19:46] discount uh to uh it's going back like

[19:51] 20 years ago we had paddle boats there

[19:54] they went her to decline uh so this

[19:57] would be a vendor coming in we would see

[19:59] how it goes uh looking to get a little

[20:02] revenue for the city but they would pick

[20:04] up all the risk and assessment uh for

[20:07] Staffing providing the equipment and uh

[20:10] just managing the operation and so we'd

[20:13] see how it is this year and then be able

[20:15] to have a more formal uh relationship

[20:18] next

[20:21] year I do they because we have we just

[20:24] have the lrs are they anticipating a

[20:26] start time and we you know we'd like to

[20:27] see the background information done the

[20:30] company that they we look to get it

[20:32] started as soon as possible sometime in

[20:35] June running it through Labor Day uh and

[20:39] again the question comes what's the

[20:42] council think it's worth is it uh few

[20:46] hundred $1,000 I don't think they're

[20:49] going to participate if we set the

[20:51] number too high and some of that

[20:54] discussion could actually go into

[20:56] executive session the council wants to

[20:58] get

[21:00] into the Min of

[21:03] contract um what I'd like to see is

[21:05] actually what they're offering you know

[21:07] and all that without necessarily getting

[21:09] to the price because that's going to

[21:10] help us determine what the cost is going

[21:12] to be so um I I have the woman's name

[21:15] but not the name of the organization or

[21:16] anything so I think if in two weeks we

[21:18] could at least hear more about what

[21:21] they're offering the uh organization and

[21:24] you know have they done this before and those kind of things okay

[21:29] other questions if they had a package

[21:32] together and as soon be the number of

[21:34] votes the type of votes

[21:36] this business plan would the council

[21:40] consider it for unanimous consent on

[21:42] Monday M Patrick I I would I think it's

[21:45] a great idea I you know heard many many

[21:48] stories of um folks using the paddle

[21:50] poats I think it would add yet another

[21:53] you know feature to our beautiful

[21:55] Central Park so um I definitely would be

[21:58] in favor of but I'm hoping we'll bring

[21:59] in $24,000 in Revenue um that was a Mr

[22:04] mud that was

[22:07] sorry I know you were coming but in any

[22:09] case I I I think it would be a great a

[22:12] great I'm not sure we can get it

[22:13] together if we

[22:16] could um get your hands up click in your

[22:19] pen um I I really can't commit to you

[22:22] set till I see the background I just

[22:25] they want to make a promise and read

[22:26] something and I like H so oh I did have

[22:29] one more question Patrick so the other

[22:31] thing I though uh question that I had

[22:33] was um whether they would be also

[22:35] responsible for taking reservations for

[22:37] how that would handle be handled in

[22:39] terms of you know not putting something

[22:43] they're assum they're assuming the whole

[22:44] responsibility for it

[22:47] so yes Mr um so uh I know it was Tuesday

[22:51] or Wednesday at the golf course I saw

[22:53] arpad of bolts in the they're back there

[22:56] by the by the sheds and I got thinking

[22:58] of how much fun they were um when my

[23:00] girls were little we'd always take the

[23:02] paddle boats out Tuesday in the park the

[23:04] fireworks so and there there were there

[23:06] were constantly people on on the pond on

[23:09] aoy Lake yeah with paddle boats I think

[23:11] it's a good thing and without any

[23:13] obligation or cost to us so I do in

[23:15] favor of whatever you could put for and

[23:18] if not to cast any aspersions over it

[23:20] but if the council did consider it by an

[23:22] animous consent Monday night they would

[23:25] probably extend that discount for the

[23:27] rides that's granted the council

[23:28] president all the

[23:30] council this is getting better not

[23:33] taking any discounts I'll be in the

[23:41] paper yeah I don't have a problem I mean

[23:43] getting all the documents some this to

[23:45] un consent part let me see if we can get

[23:48] a package together it's or now it's

[23:51] conceptual it sounds good

[23:53] but we all know the devils in the

[23:55] details and we have another council

[23:57] member who's not here so that would mean

[23:59] that everybody be up to be on board so

[24:01] the sooner the better I know Mr um lefon

[24:04] said he just kind of like there wasn't a

[24:06] real they just approached them there was

[24:08] nothing really hammered out yet so it

[24:10] wouldn't matter to

[24:13] me and we can consider for youit content

[24:16] if we get all the

[24:18] documentation

[24:23] great okay uh the next item oh excuse me

[24:26] item yeah item two to the award been in

[24:28] contact with this connected police

[24:30] locker and toilet room Renovations Mr

[24:33] Wallen uh last session I came to you

[24:36] with the award of three contracts for

[24:38] the renovations sity police toilet and

[24:40] locker room uh they were the mechanical

[24:42] the electrical and the um General we did

[24:46] not have a plumbing at the time as we

[24:47] did not have anyone um put in actually

[24:50] we had a plumbing not a mechanical so we

[24:52] had to rebid the mechanical portion of

[24:54] it fourth uh we did reach out to some

[24:56] firms we did get uh a bid on it from eer

[25:00] mechanical uh e mechanical um they seem

[25:03] to be aggressively pursuing working in

[25:05] the city they were also N Low on our

[25:07] fire station and hbac maintenance

[25:10] contracts so uh they have an idea of the

[25:13] buildings and um we're comfortable

[25:16] moving forward with it and this would be

[25:17] our fourth contractor so that we can

[25:19] move forward with the project as a whole

[25:22] questions or comments entertain a motion

[25:25] so second all those in favor thank you

[25:28] item number three is being closed at the

[25:30] request of Mr Wallen item number four to

[25:32] authorize the issuance of vote permit

[25:35] number 683 to MTX group yep uh we've

[25:38] seen this one before um but working with

[25:40] the law Department we discovered some

[25:42] discrepancies but we want to make sure

[25:43] is going forward that the applicant's

[25:45] information is on the permanent not the

[25:48] um installer of the sign so we went back

[25:51] and we clarified that and we had them

[25:53] add it we also had them uh add an email

[25:57] that the certificate owner for the

[25:59] insurance is going to be the property

[26:00] owner which is uh scoa Holdings so now

[26:03] that we have that documented we'd like

[26:05] to um officially um issue the

[26:09] revocable this is we didn't issue the

[26:12] revocable correct Maxi before so this is

[26:14] now the official issuance of it we'll

[26:16] just act like we

[26:18] never for 683 683 wasn't issue before

[26:22] correct so we're going to move forward

[26:24] now this is the insurance okay questions

[26:27] or comments and a motion second all in

[26:32] favor all right uh item number five the

[26:35] issue authorization of issuance of a

[26:37] vocable commit 684 to Maverick Quantum

[26:39] Inc so uh same building simar shine same

[26:45] Insurance holder different um company in

[26:47] the building and same thing we had them

[26:50] uh reapply for the correct applicant

[26:52] information and signature of the

[26:54] applicant not signature of the sign

[26:55] company and that would be the standard

[26:57] going forward when we do with vocables

[26:59] to make sure that um usually it's like

[27:02] an AJ sign they're very familiar we work

[27:04] with them and they'll fill it out on

[27:05] behalf but we would like to now see the

[27:08] applicate signature and the applicant's

[27:10] information and not do it as on behalf

[27:12] of Mak sense questions or comments out a

[27:16] motion so second all those in

[27:19] favor thank you very

[27:21] much uh item number six is discussion

[27:25] seeker and Planning Commission

[27:27] recommendation regarding the addition of

[27:28] Section

[27:30] 26411 3 of connected city code regarding

[27:33] the regulation and location of smoke

[27:35] shops vape shops hook and VAP

[27:37] consumption businesses there was a

[27:39] public hearing that was held on April

[27:40] 22nd 2024 Mr

[27:45] barage um yeah I'll take

[27:47] this President um I think Jack Conelly

[27:51] from the planning department is here as

[27:54] well um as you know this was the public

[27:57] hearing was held about a month ago um

[27:59] it's part of the legislative process

[28:01] we've been staff has been looking at the

[28:03] proposed uh ordinance and uh has some

[28:07] changes that need to be you know need

[28:10] recommending to the proposed ordinance

[28:12] and also giving you a way ahead here as

[28:15] far as the

[28:16] process um if as U Mr cin would go

[28:20] through it in just a moment regarding

[28:22] the the changes to the proposed

[28:24] ordinance but since we're amending the zoning code this this needs to be

[28:28] referred up to the County Planning

[28:30] Department so if the changes as uh

[28:36] discussed if there's changes to it then

[28:38] the final draft you can transmit up to

[28:41] the county on Monday via a resolution

[28:45] saying that the proposed Vape ordinance

[28:47] is attached for County's review and

[28:51] pursuing to the state of law they have

[28:52] 30 days in which to do the

[28:55] review because as you all know the the

[28:57] more a atorium is coming up and expiring

[29:00] in June pursuing to that then we need to

[29:02] do a public hearing um prior to the

[29:06] extension of that for another uh 3

[29:09] months so um I would recommend that the

[29:14] council pass a uh resolution calling for

[29:17] a public hearing on for next week for

[29:20] the 10th if it's necessary to extend

[29:24] that

[29:25] moratorium obviously it depends on what

[29:28] you all do here tonight as far as

[29:30] changing you know the the draft and then

[29:33] subject to the County Planning

[29:35] Department's review and

[29:38] recommendations so that's the process

[29:42] the big picture and Mr con will go

[29:44] through some of the uh Provisions that

[29:47] uh staff has been going through so the

[29:50] first provision is pretty brief um in

[29:51] section B location uh the only thing

[29:54] that need to Chang is are to is not

[29:56] included as one of the Z districts that

[29:58] these will be prohibited in all the

[30:00] other residential districts as long as

[30:01] C1 2 3 and the I districts were included

[30:04] C1 area R2 was just an oversight that

[30:06] was not included um obviously I'm sure

[30:09] we can all agree we'd like to see that

[30:10] in there um the second ones the rest of

[30:14] them are a little bit bigger we want to

[30:16] change some of the radiuses um and I can

[30:18] go through why we want to do that as

[30:19] well um so in the next section c

[30:22] restriction on location of H vate BR

[30:24] smoke Andor vape shops um we decided to

[30:29] take out paragraph 1 um in regards to

[30:32] the radius regarding um residential uses

[30:36] uh originally there was a th000 ft

[30:38] radius in any residental in any

[30:40] industrial Zone that was near uh within

[30:42] 1,000 ft of a residential district the

[30:44] reason we decided to get rid of that is

[30:46] because the majority of our uh

[30:48] industrial districts are very small to

[30:50] begin with um and pretty much all of

[30:52] them have hes that are within 1,000 ft

[30:55] of residential districts so I I pulled

[30:58] the data

[30:59] earlier uh M1 and M2 districts which is

[31:02] which are our industrial manufacturing

[31:04] districts are only about 11% of the of

[31:07] the area of the city um to begin with

[31:09] and the vast majority of those Parcels

[31:11] that lie within those districts are

[31:14] within the you know within the radius of

[31:16] the residential so we'd effectively be

[31:18] banning them from nearly all of the

[31:20] industrial districts regard uh If This

[31:22] Were to be enacted um given the fact

[31:25] that the industrial is obviously very

[31:27] clear and separate from the residential

[31:29] um we didn't see that as necessary the

[31:32] other reasons why we didn't see it as

[31:33] necessary go with the next two items um

[31:37] first of all there's going to be we

[31:39] wanted to keep up the 1000 ft radius

[31:42] with similar uses meaning if there's a

[31:45] one smoke shop in that region that you

[31:47] can't have another one within 1,000 ft

[31:49] therefore if you have one in an M1

[31:51] District unless things are very

[31:53] perfectly situated which you're not

[31:56] going to have a second in that

[31:57] Industrial distri

[31:58] um meaning there's only going to be one

[32:01] per District close to Res relatively

[32:04] close to residential I should say it's

[32:05] not even going to be near residential um

[32:08] but because of that we're going to

[32:09] severely decrease the amount the density

[32:12] of the smoke shops um there the last

[32:14] thing in number

[32:17] three um we wanted to switch it from

[32:20] 2,000 ft to 750 ft away from schools the

[32:24] reason for that is again similar to what

[32:28] I was saying before these are already

[32:30] being

[32:31] severely limited um 2,000 ft from as

[32:34] it's currently listed right now would

[32:37] effectively REM limit it completely um

[32:41] and and it would effectively make it so

[32:43] you cannot open one of these shops which

[32:45] I understand is part of the purpose of

[32:47] the moratorium however you know we need

[32:49] to allow for some uses of it we can't

[32:51] outright ban it completely um so the

[32:53] goal was to get a 750 ft away from

[32:56] schools um most of which are already

[32:58] located in residential districts that

[33:00] wouldn't

[33:01] have any any use for this anyway there

[33:04] are a few schools that I have listed

[33:06] that that would be affected and that

[33:07] would take that would uh eliminate some

[33:09] of those business and Industrial

[33:11] districts from uh consideration but for

[33:14] the most part it would stay relatively

[33:16] similar to how it is um again the

[33:20] purposes written as it is um with the changes that I just detailed we

[33:24] would still be severely limiting the the

[33:27] smoke shops um but it would make it a

[33:30] bit more accessible for them with that

[33:31] was still making it completely uh

[33:33] restricted for for our

[33:35] purposes and just to follow on on Mr K's

[33:39] comments uh regarding section two

[33:42] currently section two there would

[33:45] be a minor tweak there where would say

[33:48] uh legal hookah lounge uh smoke shot and

[33:51] vape lounge that's just added just to

[33:54] make it

[33:55] consistent and excuse me were you adding

[33:58] that language it would be under two it

[34:01] would be such legal Hooks and and vape

[34:05] bounds in the original draft the smoke

[34:09] shop was was deleted but was was not was

[34:12] omitted and should have been in there so

[34:14] that's just a corrective action okay and

[34:16] then uh Madam president as you know the

[34:20] council also got a a memo from the uh

[34:23] from the Planning Commission regarding

[34:25] uh this um while they didn't indicates

[34:29] a a uh a uh specific percentage of the

[34:34] floor area of a smoke shop Vape Shop

[34:37] hooker Lounge um they did indicate that

[34:41] it would be something some less than 40%

[34:47] which the current draft has and just uh some localities have gone down as far

[34:53] as

[34:54] 25% so I'm just giving you a range 25 to

[34:59] propos was was take ordinance that

[35:02] language was taken from the Town of

[35:04] Babylon so other localities have G to

[35:08] 25 so just giving the council a range of

[35:11] uh

[35:13] numbers um so you were there with a

[35:15] planning meeting do you want to talk

[35:17] about that please uh effectively what

[35:19] they said is they wanted to they thought

[35:20] 40% was too large of an area um because

[35:24] you can their their main concern is you

[35:26] could have 30 8% of the floor area be

[35:29] dedicated to smoking materials and then

[35:30] the rest just be filled with they call

[35:32] it fluff items um so technically it's

[35:35] not 40% of the floor area that's that's

[35:37] we smoking um and they can be legally

[35:39] operating but it would effectively be

[35:40] operating as a smoke shop so that's why

[35:42] they wanted that threshold uh lowered as Mr BR said they don't have a specific

[35:46] number they wanted it something closer

[35:48] to how a sparts operates um with you

[35:51] know smoking products in the back and

[35:54] speaking with uh Christine perano

[35:55] upstairs we thought I mean clearly

[35:58] stewards is not a smoke shop um so we

[36:00] wanted it a bit more than that 25% in

[36:03] our estimation seemed like a fair number

[36:05] um as Mr BR said we got that was similar

[36:08] to other municipalities in the

[36:14] area so um my my only concern with that

[36:18] is that smoke shops that's all they have

[36:20] is so um it's not like STS where they

[36:23] have ice cream and cigarettes smoke

[36:25] shops that's that's all they have so

[36:28] um I'm not sure if we I'm not saying

[36:30] that we shouldn't lower it I just don't

[36:32] want to make it so restrictive that

[36:35] there we're essentially trying to tell

[36:36] them they just can't have their products

[36:38] um advertised not I don't both CHS but I

[36:42] think we need to be fair and how we U

[36:44] put this legislation together I think

[36:45] that's fair yeah they uh the reason they

[36:47] brought it up is there was a uh was a

[36:50] convenience store opening up and when

[36:51] they found out that it could be up to

[36:53] 40% they found that it would they were

[36:55] effectively going to operate as a smoke

[36:56] shop based on the conversation that was

[36:58] had in the Planning Commission meeting

[36:59] with with that applicant um so that

[37:02] that's what spurred their

[37:07] recommendation yes Mr Tor I did notice

[37:09] one um convenience store that that did

[37:12] um advertise as a smoke shop on half of

[37:15] the store that smoke shop sign came down

[37:18] so um I know there's been some um

[37:20] enforcement out there as well so and it wasn't on our list of even legal

[37:25] smoke shops so yeah off officers put a

[37:28] lot of effort into restricting the

[37:32] sence Mr WS so I had one question

[37:35] and just not really sitting that well

[37:39] with me in the section c uh

[37:42] reducing the uh the the property around

[37:44] schools from

[37:47] 2750 as you as you mentioned just

[37:49] referencing just the intent with which

[37:51] this was presented to the to the council

[37:53] in 2008 says this ordinance this

[37:56] ordinance is an athet regul land use and

[37:58] to protect health and safety and the

[37:59] welfare of our community pursuant can

[38:01] you just speak to the reasoning behind a

[38:05] identifying 2,000 as an appropriate

[38:06] measure and I understood what you

[38:08] speaking towards of reducing that to 750

[38:11] so you're saying why was 2,000

[38:12] originally considered 2000 was that was

[38:14] the model that we used that was out of

[38:16] the Town of Babylon that's where the

[38:18] figure 2000 came from so upon further

[38:21] review that's where we're we're looking

[38:23] at now taking that those feet and

[38:26] looking at the zoning map and where

[38:28] these location where these these shops

[38:30] are going to go and then regarding the

[38:34] 750 you Al that that would really just

[38:38] affect the the commercial districts in

[38:40] C4 and C5 is that pretty much there so I

[38:44] went through all the schools in the city

[38:46] um there are a couple that come within

[38:49] 750 ft of this as I said most schools

[38:51] wouldn't be affected by this anyway

[38:53] because they're in primarily residential

[38:54] districts there would be a few schools

[38:56] that earn that 7 50 foot buffer um

[39:00] effectively what it would be looking

[39:01] like is this a majority of our

[39:03] industrial districts which I said after

[39:05] these things are about 10% of our our

[39:08] city would be able to have smoke shops

[39:10] as as a freight if they have one there

[39:12] can't be another within 1,000 ft M it

[39:14] would be severely limiting there C4 and

[39:16] C5 which is downtown in our business

[39:18] districts it would be special use permit

[39:20] again with the same rules applying with

[39:21] 1,000 ft um what that allows the

[39:25] Planning Commission to do is have a lot

[39:26] more leeway over what's allowed so even

[39:29] though you might come into issues where

[39:31] you know it's near residential areas

[39:34] that are technically C4 um the Planning

[39:37] Commission has the authority to view

[39:39] that as a whole and take that into

[39:40] consideration when passing approvals and

[39:43] just okay would you be able to provide

[39:45] us a listing of those schools that might

[39:46] potentially be affected absolutely thank

[39:48] you and just following on Mr K's remark

[39:51] regarding the special use permit um the

[39:54] uh section 2649

[39:57] 9 subb of of the code says the proposed

[40:00] building that would be the Vape chop or

[40:03] use will not have a substantial undo

[40:05] adverse effecta on adjacent property the

[40:08] character of the neighborhood traffic

[40:10] conditions parking uh utility facilities

[40:13] and other matters affecting public

[40:15] health safety and general welfare so

[40:18] those even though you're decreasing that

[40:20] as far as the special use permit the

[40:22] Planning Commission has to factor those

[40:25] uh uh items into their decision and just

[40:29] as a sort of a a standpoint right now I did the analysis for this obviously

[40:33] this building would never be a smoke

[40:34] shop let's hope um but a 500t radius

[40:37] from here would take you down to

[40:39] Broadway to Union Street and State

[40:41] Street so in 1,000ft radius would you

[40:43] know be twice that size so so having one

[40:46] smoke shop there is going to severely

[40:48] impact the rest of that neighborhood and

[40:49] make it clear if any

[40:53] others did you have hand up um that was

[40:56] good clarified point I I mean I was

[40:58] questioning the 750 as well and how we

[41:00] got to that lower number from 2000 so

[41:04] and also wasn't sure why you know we

[41:06] just didn't say a thousand since we were

[41:08] you know using a thousand as the marker

[41:11] in the other in in the other bullet um

[41:15] but cuz I mean my concern is having them

[41:18] close to schools we don't want them

[41:20] close to schools um

[41:22] so you know but sounds like that's a

[41:26] good enough distance

[41:28] we felt as if it was we spent a lot of

[41:29] time talking about it um 750 we thought

[41:32] was a was a fair number um and like I

[41:34] said I looked at all the schools the the

[41:37] ones that would be affected are still

[41:38] going to be you know a decent amount

[41:40] away from the industrial districts and

[41:41] again that's only also if things are

[41:45] perfectly placed to be as close as

[41:46] possible if there's one on the farther

[41:48] end of the industrial district that's

[41:50] closer to a th000 or more feet away from

[41:52] the school that's going to make it so

[41:53] there's nothing else that can get even

[41:54] remotely close

[41:59] so these are for the um like people that

[42:01] are goinging to be applying so for the

[42:04] existing VAP the existing legal vape and

[42:07] smoke shops um these those will be taken

[42:10] into account when you when somebody else

[42:12] is trying to locate so those would take

[42:14] into account let me pull up or something

[42:17] it's

[42:18] on section one

[42:21] um those businesses according to this

[42:24] legislation would be would cease to

[42:26] exist after 1 year um of the city

[42:29] council adopting the legislation now if

[42:31] they are in an industrial district

[42:33] already they can apply for site plan

[42:36] approval again if they are in a c4 C5

[42:39] District they can apply for a special

[42:40] use permit um if they are in another

[42:43] District as I I know one of the main

[42:45] problem areas is Upper Union Street

[42:46] which is C2 they could apply for a use

[42:49] variant um which at the last page

[42:51] details that it could be granted if they

[42:53] showed that they have not received

[42:55] Financial

[42:57] you know the proper financial

[43:00] repercussions for opening the business

[43:02] in the first place and the use variants

[43:04] would only be good until they get their

[43:06] finances in order once they you know get

[43:09] a return on their investment then the

[43:11] business would cease to exist again and

[43:13] could not reopen again unless there was

[43:15] a used variance granted which would be

[43:16] unlikely

[43:21] mhm I I don't know telling people

[43:24] they're going to do their business in

[43:25] the year I'm not sure that

[43:27] [Music]

[43:28] I'm not 100% but they they would have

[43:30] the ability to go before the zoning

[43:32] board of appeals and make their case as

[43:34] to why they should stay you know

[43:36] additional because of huiz of their costs so the idea is to

[43:44] um to allow the business

[43:48] to recoup their Investments past that

[43:52] onee deadline and this wasn't anything

[43:54] that changed from the last time it was

[43:56] here either that something the in the in

[43:59] the original

[44:05] draft

[44:06] Yeah do do we know how many existing

[44:11] shops that will impact I don't have a

[44:14] number for

[44:15] you that would be

[44:23] important would you be able to provide

[44:25] us with that information I could provide

[44:26] you with rough with a rough number at I

[44:28] you know getting an exact one would be

[44:30] near possible we could look

[44:34] [Music]

[44:37] it Adam president just for you know as

[44:40] followup from my earlier comments just

[44:42] for you know the way

[44:43] ahead if um based on Mr Conley's

[44:47] comments and the other comments uh if

[44:50] you want to move forward with this you

[44:54] could amend it as we've just discussed

[44:57] mhm um and we'll put it on the agenda

[45:00] for Monday and that will have a cover

[45:05] resolution for transmitt up to the

[45:08] County Planning Department for their

[45:09] comment and review and then subject to

[45:13] their comments then uh it would it would

[45:16] come back before the council for for for

[45:20] final action or any any other amendments

[45:23] based on the there there be an

[45:25] opportunity to amend after we find

[45:27] oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah and uh so if but

[45:32] I would I think what we're looking to do

[45:34] is move move this forward so the county

[45:37] has something to look at from us a final

[45:39] draft if you will and then and then uh

[45:43] have that process move forward and as I

[45:46] indicated earlier also have a resolution

[45:49] calling for a public hearing extending M

[45:52] moratorium has that June 10th today so

[45:54] we're keeping everything along okay so

[45:58] that so I just have one other I have one

[46:00] other question under item c number uh

[46:04] number four where the about the window

[46:06] coverage of the 20% and all those so are

[46:09] these are these numbers according to the

[46:11] um I know there's some sep head gu

[46:13] guidelines these These are actually out

[46:15] of the the signage wage you see there is

[46:18] out of the city of

[46:20] Buffalo's uh ordinance dealing with Vape

[46:24] Shops and and and the uh so that's where

[46:26] that leg that's where those numbers can

[46:28] and 20% is in our city code for all

[46:30] businesses it is for bus for all

[46:32] businesses so that's it's restating

[46:34] what's already was already okay I'm that

[46:36] is part of the

[46:38] subra just want to make sure we're kind

[46:40] of be

[46:42] consistent okay mad president sir mayor

[46:46] just I referen Monday and Mr O'Brien

[46:49] reference Monday it's actually

[46:53] Tuesday not that we don't all look

[46:54] forward to getting together on Monday

[46:56] and Tuesday

[46:57] on

[46:58] Tuesday absolutely so m p um I mean I

[47:03] would like to move this forward so that

[47:04] it can go to the county however um I

[47:07] think the uh 25% piece needs to be

[47:10] discussed um the recommendation of the

[47:13] planing commission for

[47:16] Section section

[47:21] two

[47:23] a 22 a yeah yeah under the uh definition

[47:29] section of uh the substantial or

[47:32] significant portion that goes through

[47:35] it's a b c and d uh the 40% came from

[47:40] the kind of babylon's code um other as

[47:44] Mr Colin said in in my Research

[47:47] indicates other locations have gone down

[47:49] to

[47:50] 25% so that gives you a range that gives

[47:52] the council a range to to work from MH

[47:57] you can keep it at 40 or you can go down

[47:58] to 25 or anything in between I mean it's

[48:01] really up to you you feel comfortable

[48:04] with it's just there's other as you in

[48:07] that portion there other factors you

[48:09] know how they

[48:10] Define or described the operation of the

[48:13] business so this is just

[48:17] really narrowing and further so the um

[48:21] Planning Commission recommends we lower

[48:23] it just hasn't hasn't given a

[48:25] recommendation as to what we lower too

[48:27] they didn't give a specific number they

[48:29] didn't have specific numbers on hand and

[48:30] didn't want to throw stuff around

[48:32] willy-nilly without you

[48:37] knower

[48:39] um discussion

[48:42] [Music]

[48:45] Council and again we're you know this we

[48:47] can send this to the county and if then

[48:49] we want to have more discussion or amend

[48:51] it um maybe have some conversations with

[48:54] the Planning Commission in terms of what

[48:56] they're thinking because the memo that

[48:57] they said doesn't really give a lot of

[48:59] detail right okay so um have that

[49:02] discussion and we could possibly change

[49:05] it then or leave it as

[49:08] is I mean if it's council's wish they you can put it up you can move it

[49:13] forward with 40% then change it again

[49:16] change it if you wish at you know when

[49:19] you read get the comments from the from

[49:21] the county were were amended in the

[49:24] final Amendment form lower

[49:27] mayor and the reality in these type of

[49:30] things are you're going to get people

[49:31] whatever number you pick and they're

[49:33] going to be compliant there's also going

[49:35] to be other people who will

[49:38] be uh crafty clever

[49:42] uh interesting in their design of their

[49:45] floor space you know what's common area

[49:48] what's a walkway what's

[49:50] actual retail and so the wording there

[49:55] howy have something has some kind of

[49:56] sense that's enforceable and that we

[50:00] want to be able to just manage it going

[50:02] [Music]

[50:10] forward anyone else okay um I mean I I I

[50:15] think reducing it is the way to go just

[50:18] based on everything we've been hearing

[50:19] from for example the

[50:21] um New York State toac Council

[50:27] if the council chose a low

[50:31] number is there a process where somebody

[50:34] go to the zoning board of appeals or do

[50:36] something where they had some unique set

[50:39] of circumstances where they would then

[50:40] have to

[50:42] justify having additional space no no

[50:47] it's it's it's it's it's from an

[50:48] enforcement point of view as far as

[50:51] what's your floor space what you got in

[50:53] there as your inventory and product for

[50:55] sale and it's way for the the zoning

[50:58] inspector or the code enforcement person

[51:00] to take a look make a make an assessment

[51:03] on the floor space inventory what's this

[51:05] business all

[51:06] about

[51:09] and um

[51:12] 40% substantial or significant it's 25%

[51:15] you know 25% is

[51:18] that significant or

[51:21] substantial um like I said some

[51:24] localities have gone down to 25% so

[51:29] um

[51:31] it's there's other factors that they

[51:33] consider revenues dered advertising Etc

[51:37] that that an inspector can can use but

[51:40] it's just further defining the the the

[51:44] uh the uh enforcement mechanism of

[51:48] what's what's in that particular

[51:51] store Mr Toro um having visited several

[51:54] of them I mean it's the same they have

[51:58] the same product store after store after

[52:00] store I would say more than 40% of their

[52:03] floor is dedicated to vape and smoka and

[52:06] paraphernalia and things like that so um

[52:09] 40 and I mean 40 would I think a lot of

[52:13] the stores I've been in would reduce

[52:15] their inventory as it is now uh 25%

[52:19] would even reduce it further um so again

[52:24] I'd like to hear what um you know what

[52:26] the Planning Commission recommends I can

[52:28] see lowering it a little bit but the I

[52:31] think the 25% would really limit what

[52:33] they have in their shop and if we're

[52:35] allowing their shops to be there then

[52:38] they should at least be able to kind of

[52:40] sell what they have I guess I 40% was a

[52:43] number originally that was agreed upon

[52:45] between the department of development

[52:46] and the law office so that that was a

[52:48] number that we took from a couple

[52:49] different spots and and looked at um the

[52:53] Planning Commission just agreed

[52:57] so um I think we can move this forward

[52:59] but we'd have to I still would like to

[53:00] hear from the Planning Commission what

[53:02] their um rationale was for that and we

[53:04] could get that before um before it's

[53:07] time to actually um within 30 days that

[53:10] the council that the county would have

[53:12] to send it back um I have to agree with

[53:14] mror I think that we don't want to limit

[53:16] it really too much so we're just

[53:18] basically not giving people an

[53:19] opportunity to run their business Mr you

[53:23] suggested moving forward in

[53:25] 40% but that and amend it when we

[53:28] receive the recommendation from the

[53:29] county

[53:31] exactly I'm good with that and okay also

[53:34] Mr umbrian you want us to also move

[53:37] ahead with the to call for a public

[53:39] hearing for the extension of the more

[53:42] 20 so first should we U Move This

[53:45] forward to the count do we have to move

[53:47] this in a resolution to the county with

[53:50] but and then do a second resolution um Madam president just so

[53:56] I'm I'm tracking the changes here so

[53:58] we're all on the same page so for

[54:01] location we're adding uh R2 that's corrective action residential

[54:06] area

[54:07] R2 we're deleting in the section calling

[54:12] for restrictions on location of hookah

[54:14] lounges Vape lounges Etc we're deleting

[54:18] one SE paragraph two would then become

[54:22] paragraph one and paragraph three would

[54:25] become paragraph two with the location

[54:28] change to

[54:29] 750 750

[54:31] ft and that you would remain at this

[54:34] point 40% regarding the definition

[54:38] portions that substantial or significant

[54:40] portion is that is that

[54:42] correct you would leave that at 40% at

[54:45] this point but this is so I'll amend as

[54:51] discussed and then um and then prepare

[54:54] the resolution as the cover

[54:56] resolution for the draft to go up to the

[55:00] county yes

[55:03] okay yeah we need to move yes we need to

[55:06] move that so move as this disc okay

[55:10] second all those in favor I okay now we

[55:13] need a motion to um call for a public

[55:16] hearing to discuss if needed the

[55:18] extension on the

[55:19] moratorium so second all those in

[55:24] favor one final matter on this whole

[55:27] packet Madam president there was a

[55:29] Seeker I think that a Seeker resolution

[55:32] declaring this as a non type two action

[55:35] I think we should just wait on that

[55:37] until we get the final product of the uh

[55:42] ordinance ready to go and use that as a

[55:43] companion piece of legislation once for

[55:46] the final

[55:49] okay anything else Mr thank you okay

[55:53] thank you all right um

[55:57] item number

[55:58] seven threeyear home Consortium

[56:01] agreement R the city of troit in town

[56:03] Miss

[56:04] Carver good evening our sced Detroit

[56:08] Colony Consortium agreement is up for

[56:10] Renewal we renew it every 3 years

[56:13] roughly each year we get a million

[56:15] dollar in Home Federal funding that's

[56:17] allocated with connect being a leite

[56:20] entity part of this renewal process is

[56:22] that we need to do a resolution stating

[56:25] just that we're the lead entity and we're

[56:29] approving the renewal of the home

[56:30] Consortium agreement for another three

[56:32] years my recommendation today which I

[56:34] did Supply um for your review the last

[56:37] resolution that we did is that we passed

[56:40] another threeyear Ral for the home

[56:41] consor agreement any questions or

[56:44] comments move it second all those in

[56:47] favor I thank you um the next one is our

[56:51] Pro housing communities pledge

[56:53] resolution Miss par yes to governor 2023

[56:57] executive order um has some designated

[57:00] funds that some discretionary funds that

[57:02] we would have access to if we get the

[57:05] pro housing community designation part

[57:08] of that process to get that is to pass

[57:11] the community housing Pro housing

[57:13] community pledge resolution I do need to

[57:15] supply the exact wording to you for

[57:17] review which I do have to make sure that

[57:19] we're aign um by passing this resolution

[57:21] we are agreeing to things that we

[57:23] already do one streamlining and

[57:25] permitting from multif family housing

[57:27] affordable housing units accessibility

[57:29] and Supportive Housing that we're going

[57:31] to adopt policies that affirmatively

[57:33] further fair housing incorporate

[57:35] Regional Housing needs into our planning

[57:37] decisions and increase development

[57:39] capacity for residential uses so today

[57:42] um the A is for city council to do a um

[57:46] resolution adopting the pro housing

[57:48] communities

[57:50] pledge so um Mrs Carver will provide us

[57:52] with that information but if uh everyone

[57:54] is comfortable p that information we can

[57:56] move it now and if there's any question

[57:58] of course we can um remove it if

[58:00] necessary but I'll entertain a motion to

[58:02] do so second all those in favor I thank

[58:06] you very

[58:07] much okay so quickly uh item number nine

[58:11] is um I'm asking for a ceremonial

[58:13] resolution recognizing spal Zulus and

[58:15] Steve Harris for their years of service

[58:18] at woodlon Park um they spent 133 years

[58:21] revitalizing that Park SPO is now moving

[58:24] away and Steve just felt like he

[58:25] couldn't carried on on his own so just

[58:28] want to the council to recognize the

[58:29] work that they put into the city

[58:31] park second all those in

[58:34] favor uh the next item is a ceremony

[58:37] resolution recognizing National

[58:38] Caribbean American Heritage Month Mr M

[58:41] Baron thank you June is recognized as

[58:44] National Caribbean heritage month and I

[58:46] once again asking for resolution to

[58:48] recognize the Caribbean

[58:50] American contribution to our city andal

[58:54] reg I'll move it

[58:56] second all those in favor

[58:59] hi okay item number 11 is a proposed

[59:04] changing um proposed zoning change for

[59:06] this SKC 40 project um I'll turn that

[59:10] over to the

[59:11] mayor thank you uh mam

[59:14] president we've been fortunate done a

[59:17] number of major announcements recently

[59:19] on projects in the city uh this item

[59:23] coming before you tonight I want to

[59:25] thank

[59:27] uh the landbank team ecni Community

[59:31] Builders developers

[59:33] Metroplex it will

[59:36] have as big an impact or more than some

[59:40] of the other things that have we've

[59:42] announced and are getting bigger

[59:45] headlines but it's going to clean up a

[59:47] lot of blight within the area it's going

[59:49] to create housing opportunities and

[59:51] hopefully just continue the level of

[59:53] excitement that we have on community on

[59:55] this Community where people are making

[59:57] Investments here and that they'll be

[59:59] able to take advantage of your

[1:00:01] moratorium on the price structure Mr

[1:00:03] here but with that I turn it over to Mr

[1:00:06] Gillan from uh Metroplex to go through

[1:00:09] the uh proposal and the request we thank

[1:00:13] the council it should be we thank the

[1:00:17] council president for uh having us

[1:00:19] tonight and for all of you for being

[1:00:21] here I want to introduce Steve strikman

[1:00:23] from our land bank love having backing

[1:00:26] on our team s bua from Five Corners

[1:00:29] development very involved in this

[1:00:31] project Andy brick our legal

[1:00:34] counsel Courtney Davis from LaBella

[1:00:38] Associates and yon Thompson from

[1:00:40] Community Builders who's already done so

[1:00:42] much good work on the Aly Street

[1:00:44] Corridor as the mayor said we're very

[1:00:46] pleased to bring this forward this me

[1:00:49] this is really we're riding on the

[1:00:51] coattails of the great work done by the

[1:00:54] legal team and the codes team here in

[1:00:56] the city and the mayor and everyone in

[1:00:58] this room to uh it kind of reminds me of

[1:01:02] the wedgeway building we went after our

[1:01:04] bad owner there we're able to collect a

[1:01:08] huge fine get the building transferred

[1:01:10] to a new owner we have a $20 million

[1:01:12] project under way there with the help of

[1:01:14] the restore theor program we want to do

[1:01:16] the same here so first and foremost

[1:01:18] though the cod's team the Leal Team Max

[1:01:20] has been spectacular on this and she

[1:01:22] joined the city team uh won a judgment

[1:01:25] against the owner of this connected 40

[1:01:27] properties of $760,000 that's the

[1:01:30] biggest fine in the history of the city

[1:01:32] as I understand it again I have nothing

[1:01:34] to do with it I wish I could take credit

[1:01:36] for it this it's so spectacular but I

[1:01:38] can't and um with this so you not only

[1:01:42] are you going to get $760,000 to put in

[1:01:44] your budget but we're going to get these

[1:01:46] blighted properties cleaned up which is

[1:01:48] just so exciting and you see a couple

[1:01:50] pictures there just go back to me if you

[1:01:52] can the one building I've talked to the

[1:01:54] council president on this upper left

[1:01:56] many many times it's it's burned out

[1:01:58] it's a disaster um you know you look at

[1:02:01] the interior conditions of some of these

[1:02:03] buildings along the Albany Street

[1:02:04] quarter so it's it's really exciting

[1:02:07] that uh this this judgment was levied uh

[1:02:10] and now we're moving forward the plan to

[1:02:12] clean up the pl

[1:02:14] sites in addition this all of those

[1:02:17] buildings are along the Aly Street

[1:02:19] quarter adjacent to that Al Street

[1:02:21] quarter of course is the Mohawk Honda

[1:02:23] site which our partners at the county

[1:02:25] agreed to buy and have closed on

[1:02:27] purchased it for $980,000 and the county

[1:02:31] has dedicated as you all know $3 million

[1:02:33] to develop that site of arpa funding to

[1:02:35] develop a grocery store at that site so

[1:02:37] we've got all of this potential uh good

[1:02:40] things happening on Aly Street and of

[1:02:42] course the um Monda site is right next

[1:02:46] to one of the great things about this

[1:02:48] site it fronts both on Aly Street and on

[1:02:50] State

[1:02:51] Street next

[1:02:54] slide when we looked at

[1:02:57] developing uh the Monda site for um

[1:03:02] retail and for new development it

[1:03:05] quickly became apparent that you

[1:03:06] couldn't do one project without the

[1:03:08] other you had to run these projects in

[1:03:10] tandem I didn't think of this I wasn't

[1:03:12] smart enough but our team is is very

[1:03:14] smart so they said You' got to run these

[1:03:16] in tandem when we started showing the

[1:03:18] Mohawk Honda site to to developers and

[1:03:20] to uh interested retailers they said

[1:03:23] what about all this BL on ay street

[1:03:25] right next to s so you have to do them

[1:03:26] in Tandem and that's why we're here to

[1:03:28] talk about tonight we're moving them

[1:03:30] forward at the same time we've put

[1:03:32] together a great team commity Builders

[1:03:34] Five Corners development Better

[1:03:36] Community neighborhoods uh the

[1:03:37] consultant team is very strong from our

[1:03:40] environmental experts to CT mail laella

[1:03:43] Andy brick Law Firm Jackson Demolition

[1:03:46] and of course Metroplex of the

[1:03:49] land this team has been very busy uh

[1:03:53] over the last uh 6 to8 months surveys

[1:03:56] have been completed phase one

[1:03:57] environmental reviews completed Phase 2

[1:04:00] is basically completed ongoing Geotech

[1:04:03] so we're testing the soil ongoing

[1:04:05] asbestos testing demolition budgets put

[1:04:08] together asbestos abatement is underway

[1:04:10] on these properties so we're getting

[1:04:12] ready to develop the site this is the

[1:04:14] same thing we did at the ALCO site this

[1:04:16] is the same thing we've done time and

[1:04:17] time again in this

[1:04:20] community again not only did the county

[1:04:22] buy Monda and get site control but we

[1:04:26] went after and again the city uh was

[1:04:28] super Cooperative on this uh we were

[1:04:31] awarded a $2.75 million Grant from the

[1:04:34] Restore New York program to demolish and

[1:04:36] clean up this site and prep it for

[1:04:38] development so we have that in hand so

[1:04:40] again it's a development momentum we

[1:04:41] have these properties on Aly street that

[1:04:43] are coming under control we have the M

[1:04:45] Honda side under control and now we have

[1:04:47] this grant to help prep the M Honda site

[1:04:50] for um development we're here tonight

[1:04:53] because you need to play a key role in

[1:04:55] moving this project before we want to

[1:04:57] rezone and this is critical for this

[1:04:59] project to go forward it's in a minor

[1:05:01] change there's four Parcels on sken

[1:05:04] street that are that need to be reson uh

[1:05:08] and there are three Parcels on Albany

[1:05:11] Street the four on all on sken street

[1:05:14] two are owned by Sora and they're in the

[1:05:16] process we're in the process of asking

[1:05:18] those to be turned over to the land bank

[1:05:21] the other two are part of this connected

[1:05:22] 40 the infamous connected 40 assemblage

[1:05:26] all of the properties on Albany Street

[1:05:27] are part of the uh uh the sk40

[1:05:31] assemblage so you see uh on the first

[1:05:34] Slide the current zoning see the red box

[1:05:37] um on SKC Street see the small red box

[1:05:40] on Aly street again four Parcels on

[1:05:42] skincity three on on Albany we move

[1:05:46] those into the green uh and um you can

[1:05:50] see that all the adjacent areas are

[1:05:52] already zoned uh you know as C4 so we're

[1:05:56] making a very minor change with three

[1:05:58] Parcels on ALB street that are part of

[1:06:00] the sked 40 assemblage four on connected

[1:06:04] Street what that allows us to do is move

[1:06:07] forward with the project uh site a is

[1:06:10] the Monda site to to demolish that

[1:06:13] building almost an 18,000 ft building

[1:06:16] clean it up remediate it site B there

[1:06:19] are 10 Parcels there very blighted those

[1:06:22] come down the buildings are unsafe Again

[1:06:24] part of theu 40 assemblage site C

[1:06:28] similar activity the parcels are cleaned

[1:06:31] up they're heavily damaged that's the

[1:06:33] fire damage parcel that you see in Aly

[1:06:35] street now it has to come down it's very blighted and and dilapidated site

[1:06:41] so we're able to clean up a lot of this

[1:06:43] bried Corridor on ALB Street and here's

[1:06:46] the good part uh what we are planning to

[1:06:49] do with this great development team

[1:06:51] we've put together is to build the new

[1:06:54] grocery store of 16 000 ft um in site

[1:06:59] a and build

[1:07:02] 125 housing units as well in site a in

[1:07:07] site B on the lower left uh 80 units

[1:07:11] site C 20 units so 225 units of new

[1:07:16] affordable high quality

[1:07:19] housing uh Fitness Center business

[1:07:21] center community indoor outdoor space

[1:07:24] you see all the green space on on the

[1:07:25] map there's a lot of green space in this

[1:07:27] project one of the things we talked to

[1:07:29] the council president about many times

[1:07:31] is having a very nice pathway from the

[1:07:35] grocery store back to Albany Street

[1:07:37] that's in the plan uh we have big buffer

[1:07:40] areas around underground parking uh uh

[1:07:44] you know first level parking of the

[1:07:46] apartment buildings being uh first floor

[1:07:48] parking so it's really a a very good

[1:07:51] site plan and uh we're excited to move

[1:07:54] it forward but we need to do this

[1:07:56] uh zoning change this minor zoning

[1:07:58] change in order to do this what does

[1:07:59] this get us more more quality housing

[1:08:02] removal of blighted and hazardous

[1:08:05] buildings uh continue the the uh

[1:08:07] development that we want to see in this

[1:08:10] quarter provide access to Transit

[1:08:12] provide walkable development and um a

[1:08:16] tree line sidewalks we talked to the to many of you about you're concerned

[1:08:20] that this be a walkable development have

[1:08:22] good sidewalks have good landscaping and

[1:08:25] really be a nice addition to our

[1:08:28] community of course one of the reasons

[1:08:30] we're doing this one of the drivers is

[1:08:32] to improve access to fresh food enhance

[1:08:36] food security improve quality of life

[1:08:38] and and the store will create 25 to 30

[1:08:40] new jobs as well so it's really a a very

[1:08:43] creative development taking those

[1:08:45] blighted buildings down that you won

[1:08:47] this big judgment against this notorious

[1:08:49] landlord who was um Breaking All the

[1:08:52] Rules uh getting us 760,00 ,000 getting

[1:08:57] those sites developed for quality

[1:08:58] affordable housing taking the site that

[1:09:00] the county purchased cleaning that up

[1:09:02] knocking the building down and

[1:09:04] developing it for

[1:09:06] grocery to move this forward that's what

[1:09:08] we're asking you to do declare your

[1:09:10] intent that you often do to be lead

[1:09:12] agency under Seeker which is required

[1:09:14] for any project like this make a

[1:09:17] referral to the Planning Commission uh

[1:09:19] the evening on the zoning change and

[1:09:22] they'll go through their usual process

[1:09:24] and call for a public hearing as

[1:09:27] well you see a couple of the skanky 40

[1:09:30] properties there um they're really

[1:09:32] blighted and um again they all get

[1:09:35] cleaned up uh with this project and we

[1:09:38] happy to answer any

[1:09:43] questions um so you talked about the

[1:09:45] grocery storees do you have has you

[1:09:47] identified who that grocery store we're

[1:09:49] under a non-disclosure right now but we

[1:09:51] have a letter int of intent uh in place

[1:09:54] we're working very diligently to

[1:09:56] complete that transaction okay could you

[1:09:59] give us a little bit information what

[1:10:01] the timeline might would look like would

[1:10:02] look like on this project the the

[1:10:04] timeline is is we move this ahead take

[1:10:08] the zone change to the Planning

[1:10:10] Commission uh it's critical to allow um

[1:10:15] uh this development to to move forward

[1:10:18] uh and again it builds on the momentum

[1:10:19] we've already seen on allby stre the

[1:10:21] community Builder Hillside Crossings

[1:10:23] project uh the Joe Allen

[1:10:25] apartments and um uh some of the other

[1:10:28] developments Hillside Crossing 2 um we

[1:10:32] then move into the uh development stage

[1:10:35] and bring the the project the building

[1:10:37] designs and and other uh features of the

[1:10:40] project back to the Planning Commission

[1:10:41] for final review and move the project

[1:10:45] forward overall do you know about and

[1:10:48] the time onine I'm not trying to like

[1:10:50] pin it down to the day we have been

[1:10:51] meeting weekly for longer than I want to

[1:10:54] tell you

[1:10:56] we have a call every Friday with this

[1:10:59] development team and we take notes and

[1:11:01] uh it is moving forward um I would say

[1:11:05] what would you think to me yeah Q2 Q3

[1:11:08] 2027 we would expect delivery so we

[1:11:11] we're hoping to have all HCR approvals

[1:11:14] by Q2 Q3 of this coming year and then

[1:11:17] it's about a roughly a two-year build oh

[1:11:20] okay the the key is getting the the

[1:11:23] sites prepped and cleaned up uh getting

[1:11:26] Monda cleaned up getting the building

[1:11:28] down we have the restore Grant in hand

[1:11:30] the developer the development team we

[1:11:33] put together has the financing to

[1:11:35] purchase these buildings from the

[1:11:37] receiver that's has been appointed by

[1:11:38] the courts to sell these properties so

[1:11:40] you get your $960,000 this

[1:11:47] year9 76 you got me all right and then

[1:11:52] uh so that happens the demolition of

[1:11:55] cond would happen this year the

[1:11:57] demolition of the sky 40 properties

[1:11:59] would happen this year hopefully this

[1:12:01] year yep and then we'll have cleaned up

[1:12:05] sites environmentally remediated like we

[1:12:07] did look at the you know the the corner

[1:12:09] of KRA all where we built that beautiful

[1:12:11] new housing and cleaned up you know a

[1:12:14] dry cleaner site that was very very

[1:12:16] dirty you know so all of those things

[1:12:18] take a little time but then we head into

[1:12:21] the development phase and the

[1:12:23] construction phase and it's a it's a very large exciting

[1:12:28] project as a mayor said this Rivals some

[1:12:30] of the larger developments that we've

[1:12:32] seen happen in this community uh as a

[1:12:34] result of our great partnership between

[1:12:36] the county and the city and our unified

[1:12:38] economic development team is it

[1:12:41] conceivable that the the store the

[1:12:43] grocery store will be open before all

[1:12:44] the apartments are completed or there

[1:12:47] like everything going if you want to if you wanted to add something to this

[1:12:50] you could join Mr Gillan up here because

[1:12:51] then you'd be on the cameras um is it

[1:12:54] conceivable that the grocery store would

[1:12:56] be open prior to that is it are you

[1:12:58] planning just everything kind of launch

[1:12:59] it at one time it's probably going to

[1:13:01] happen all at the same time just CU part

[1:13:03] of the funding from from the HCR is

[1:13:05] going to include funding for helping to

[1:13:07] support the grocery store okay so

[1:13:08] realistically speaking it would all be

[1:13:10] delivered around the same time I mean uh

[1:13:13] the Monda site is obviously going to be

[1:13:14] the first we're not necessarily phasing

[1:13:16] it but it's going to be the first to be

[1:13:17] built and then we're going to move on to

[1:13:19] the other sites it's going to sites

[1:13:21] after but it wouldn't be open until

[1:13:23] everything else is finished even if yeah

[1:13:25] okay thank

[1:13:27] you Mr Wes uh so it's more of a comment

[1:13:31] definitely scany winning and respect to

[1:13:33] economic revitalization and

[1:13:35] Redevelopment is definitely something

[1:13:37] that I've come to just appreciate

[1:13:39] whenever you come to our Council and

[1:13:40] definitely is respective of the team and

[1:13:42] its Collective work so to definitely

[1:13:44] thank you for continuing to provide

[1:13:46] these types of results um in that same

[1:13:48] context I also want to say U taking a

[1:13:50] Step Beyond that where it's apparent the

[1:13:53] end users benefit from these types of

[1:13:55] efforts where the grocery store and the

[1:13:57] additional housing and some of the other

[1:13:59] areas that you highlighted but also I

[1:14:01] want to make sure there's considerable

[1:14:02] Investments kind of speaking in in

[1:14:04] spirit to what councilman Farley always

[1:14:06] brings up um making sure that our small

[1:14:08] business owners and our small business

[1:14:10] contractors can see those wins as well

[1:14:12] not to speak as though they do not um

[1:14:14] but saying that we need to continue

[1:14:16] making sure that there are also tangible

[1:14:19] wins for those types of individuals

[1:14:21] where having uh these developers come in

[1:14:23] and help clean up definitely very

[1:14:25] welcomed but I know we have some upand

[1:14:27] cominging businesses within the

[1:14:28] community who are truly prideful scant

[1:14:31] dians that would love to be a part of

[1:14:32] these efforts as well you know that's a

[1:14:33] great point I'm glad you rais it we just

[1:14:35] had an Outreach event up at the Mosaic

[1:14:37] development on Crane Street inviting you

[1:14:39] know the neighborhood in inviting the

[1:14:41] local businesses in we'll do the same

[1:14:42] thing here over and over inviting the

[1:14:45] team in and I'm just comment on earlier

[1:14:47] thrilled that you passed the pro housing

[1:14:50] uh move that forward tonight thank you

[1:14:51] because that's going to help us in so

[1:14:52] many ways that is really be becoming

[1:14:55] something that they they'll look at when

[1:14:56] they're scoring these Grant applications

[1:14:58] to the state so as your development

[1:15:00] director said very well this evening

[1:15:02] that's a very important that'll be

[1:15:04] helpful to our grant applications that

[1:15:05] we're applying

[1:15:07] for Miss Patrick I just um wanted to

[1:15:10] comment about the grocery store because

[1:15:12] of course there's also the Electric City

[1:15:14] grocery store going in at the other end

[1:15:17] um and I'm just wondering if there was

[1:15:19] ever consideration

[1:15:21] of using this site for the Electric City

[1:15:24] grocery store so that now in we'll have

[1:15:27] two Grocery Stores um instead of one

[1:15:31] both are still under development it's a

[1:15:32] good question we have spoke spoken to

[1:15:35] both groups they're both still under

[1:15:38] development um um that's a question you

[1:15:42] have to ask to call

[1:15:45] up okay and I think this is fabulous I'm

[1:15:48] very excited especially that the

[1:15:50] demolition will happen within this year

[1:15:52] is what I think I heard you say um so

[1:15:55] the fence will be going up um the next

[1:15:56] couple weeks around M Honda and um

[1:16:00] you'll see the site remediated and the

[1:16:02] other and the house and the demolition

[1:16:03] as well we're just wait waiting on

[1:16:05] closing the contract once that with the

[1:16:07] housing once we close on that we'll demo

[1:16:09] those Monda will come down sooner uh but

[1:16:12] realistically speaking within the next

[1:16:14] two or three months would be our V I

[1:16:16] really want to thank the team the mayor

[1:16:18] mat we've taken up a lot of your time

[1:16:21] her time on preparing legal briefs and

[1:16:24] other things for the development team

[1:16:26] council president has been uh advising

[1:16:29] us on this and working with us for

[1:16:30] months now on this development you know

[1:16:32] going back made some very good points

[1:16:35] about when we should bring this forward

[1:16:37] uh given the U the legal issues that

[1:16:40] were surrounding this we're very

[1:16:42] confident now this is the time and place

[1:16:43] to move this project forward and and

[1:16:45] clean up this this blight on Al Street

[1:16:48] and and clean up the mwanda site as well

[1:16:51] and again we should say Manda has been

[1:16:53] nothing but Cooperative on this

[1:16:54] abolutely great citizens of the

[1:16:56] community held the option with the

[1:16:59] county for 3 years so that all the

[1:17:01] proper due diligence could be done with

[1:17:03] the cleanup and Etc

[1:17:06] so Mr M on the apartments are there

[1:17:10] considerations for set aside low income

[1:17:13] apartments yeah so the uh the entire uh

[1:17:17] all of the buildings all four of the

[1:17:18] buildings will be affordable affordable

[1:17:20] in income regulated so so you have to

[1:17:23] show

[1:17:25] your your rent is based on your

[1:17:27] income

[1:17:29] okay there these are high quality units

[1:17:32] Business Center Fitness Center

[1:17:35] Parking uh Green Space uh these are

[1:17:38] units every one of us would be proud to

[1:17:40] live in they're made affordable by state

[1:17:43] housing tax credits that are issued so

[1:17:46] that um we don't price these out of the

[1:17:49] range of hardworking connect idiot

[1:17:52] basically and and that's a big part of

[1:17:54] our our agenda as well you wouldn't know

[1:17:56] the difference if this was a marker rate

[1:17:58] or affordable housing it just happens to

[1:17:59] be for affordable people who qualif yeah

[1:18:03] thank you in terms of infrastructure um

[1:18:06] you know we had this we had a similar

[1:18:08] conversation when um the other Hills

[1:18:10] side view went in terms of the sidewalks

[1:18:12] essentially you know what the sidewalk

[1:18:14] BLS look like and obviously walked it so

[1:18:16] that is all built into this so that

[1:18:18] we're it's going to become really

[1:18:20] walkable yes absolutely it's all part of

[1:18:22] our plan okay y a lot of green space

[1:18:25] cleaning up light cleaning up

[1:18:27] environmentally uh dirty sites and and

[1:18:29] building quality units and uh making a a

[1:18:32] walkable development okay we've spent a

[1:18:35] lot of time we're viewing through the

[1:18:36] complete streets program so we're very

[1:18:39] familiar with what city wants and what

[1:18:41] we need to deliver thank

[1:18:44] you anyone else Chris Wen said to me be

[1:18:48] short tonight be

[1:18:50] quicket I have a tendency to go on but

[1:18:53] we wanted to fully on this development

[1:18:56] and we appreciate our whole team coming

[1:18:57] out and U being here tonight we

[1:19:00] appreciate you bearing with us this

[1:19:03] exciting is there anything else you want

[1:19:04] to add council members any other

[1:19:07] questions statements okay so at this

[1:19:10] time um the council would need to thank

[1:19:12] you very much would to um need to

[1:19:15] declare our intent act lead agency to

[1:19:17] refer this to the Planning Commission

[1:19:20] and who and we need to call the public

[1:19:22] hearing yes public hearing call public

[1:19:24] hearing but I would recommend until you

[1:19:25] hear back from the Planning Commission

[1:19:27] you want to wait yeah because what would

[1:19:30] right so we need a time frame is okay so

[1:19:33] um tonight we would need to

[1:19:37] De I would like to request

[1:19:40] right land just like to request that uh

[1:19:43] the Planning Commission meets late this

[1:19:45] month or in June because of juneth so

[1:19:48] the meeting the last so they're meeting

[1:19:50] the last one day of the month so I don't

[1:19:52] think there's any requirement that you

[1:19:54] have the public hearing before that but

[1:19:56] I was hoping that the public hearing

[1:19:57] could be either on June

[1:20:00] 14th dates June 10th or June 24th I mean

[1:20:03] there will be public there people will

[1:20:06] have the opportunity to speak publicly

[1:20:08] the Planning Commission meeting they'll

[1:20:09] have opportunity to speak at every one

[1:20:12] of the council meetings as this gets

[1:20:13] adopted down the road Madam president I

[1:20:15] would recommend that the 24th because by

[1:20:17] that time the Planning Commission would

[1:20:19] have had their meeting and then there

[1:20:22] you would have it on the 24th

[1:20:25] and it would be draft legislation

[1:20:27] perhaps for comment by that time based

[1:20:30] on the actions of the Planning

[1:20:32] Commission so you I'm saying putting it

[1:20:34] out further um our public hearing our

[1:20:38] public hearing on the 24th would be

[1:20:40] based on that schedule would be by that

[1:20:43] time there would be input from the

[1:20:45] Planning Commission to we can work off

[1:20:47] of that to draft an ordinance for the

[1:20:49] public hearing for your review okay so

[1:20:52] you can call for the public hearing hear

[1:20:54] in now if you want but it will not be in

[1:20:56] our regular cycle but it'll be put out a

[1:20:59] little bit later okay thank you thank

[1:21:02] you have do anything

[1:21:04] please all right thank you so uh Mr o'ri

[1:21:07] do we need to do these as three separate

[1:21:09] resolutions um yes you do three separate

[1:21:11] referral okay the seeker and the public

[1:21:14] hearing all right first of all I would

[1:21:16] uh entertain a motion to have the city

[1:21:18] council declar as a leite agency second

[1:21:21] all in favor I um I'd like to to uh have

[1:21:25] the city council refer this to the

[1:21:26] zoning um the zoning change to the

[1:21:29] Planning Commission so second all those

[1:21:31] in favor I I and third I'd like to ask

[1:21:35] um city council to call for a public

[1:21:37] hearing on June 24th so second all those

[1:21:41] in favor I thank you very

[1:21:46] much the remainder of our items are in

[1:21:50] executive session so all members of the

[1:21:52] public will have to leave

[1:21:55] so like motion to go executive session

[1:21:58] so second all in favor thank you

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Schenectady City Council Committee Meeting, May 20, 2024

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