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[1:35] like to call for finance meeting for um

[1:38] well

[1:39] City we have one um committee which is

[1:43] finance turn to Mr mud thank you madam

[1:46] president um I would like to call the

[1:49] finance committee to order for this

[1:51] evening and this evening we are

[1:53] discussing going into our budget hearing

[1:55] for our 2025

[1:58] budget uh um this evening we're going to

[2:01] be um doing a budget review and then

[2:04] we'll get into Revenue Council clerks

[2:07] police fire department utility Street

[2:10] lighting development codes golf fund

[2:14] assessment receipt and we will also

[2:18] address capital budget for the various

[2:20] Department if needed so I would like to

[2:23] hand this over to Mr Ferrari for a

[2:25] budget

[2:26] review thank you Mr M mam president city

[2:30] council people uh let's say I'm welcome

[2:34] to be here for our 2025 edition of the

[2:36] budget I'm hoping that we all work

[2:39] together here you budget here off time I

[2:42] think I think we the mayor's put

[2:44] together pretty good budget and uh let's

[2:47] uh go through it with you um I just want

[2:49] to mention there's a few Corrections in

[2:51] this proposed budget of course let's

[2:54] start on the fourth page uh where the

[2:56] taxable assess value is the fourth page

[2:59] from the beginning

[3:00] it's where the where the graph is uhhuh

[3:03] okay if you look under the year

[3:07] 2025 what page is it so is it P

[3:12] Unum

[3:15] yes uh under 2025 uh the New York State

[3:19] Equalization rate is not 71 it should be

[3:22] 67% and 6

[3:25] 68.4 okay 68

[3:30] 8.45

[3:32] 2025

[3:34] 68.4 and the next line full value would

[3:37] also change by

[3:39] 68.4 we are going to we're going to

[3:41] change that when we do the adoped budget

[3:44] because it's not here sorry the state

[3:47] gave us that the game us that rate yeah

[3:52] start1 first first I got was 71

[3:55] 684 by changing that from from 71 to

[3:58] 68.4 would that affect the it's going to

[4:01] affect the full value of course it's going to be up over 3 bli

[4:07] 700,000 so that will drive the rates no

[4:10] it doesn't affect the rates at all it

[4:11] doesn't affect the r okay because it's

[4:13] just a full value I just wanted to make

[4:15] that clear on page 11 and what we did in

[4:18] this whole budget when we have a blue

[4:20] line that uh that indicates that uh we

[4:23] plan to use some ARA funding for that

[4:26] but on page 11 the ARA funding should

[4:28] not be there that the job was for the so

[4:30] Legend ER has been eliminated so there's

[4:33] no need for

[4:35] that we're moving that and

[4:41] we on page 36 the other Blue Line AR

[4:45] funding should be one R down it's not

[4:47] for uh operating engineer I'm sorry what

[4:50] page 36 page 36 it should be one down

[4:55] for two NEOS one two NEOS for 13

[5:02] 1,852 P 36 yeah you got yeah I know so

[5:06] you're CH you're moving all this is

[5:07] 197,000 you ask yeah it's going to move

[5:10] down one but the total amount we're

[5:11] going to use is 131

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[5:16] 852 it's not correct you have three here

[5:19] yeah but that's incorrect it should go

[5:21] down to there's only going to be

[5:23] two okay yeah yeah it's going for 131

[5:28] 852 okay

[5:30] yeah and again that'll be corrected be

[5:33] done about 60 Grand 60 something Grand

[5:36] all right

[5:41] uh all right so uh Mr much gave me 10

[5:45] minutes to go over this real quick so

[5:47] I'm going to try to do a high level and

[5:49] quick but I'm going to use every every

[5:50] minute that he gave me okay all right uh

[5:54] we're going to do uh the general fund

[5:56] because that's the most important fund

[5:57] that we're working with here the propos

[5:59] po 2025 budget that the mayor has sent

[6:02] out is for $ 116

[6:04] m674

[6:06] 254 it's 6.31% larger than the 2024

[6:11] adopted budget by

[6:14] 6,920

[6:16] 692 real the uh property tax levy is

[6:20] going to be increased by

[6:22] 1,333

[6:24] n34 and that is from our Levy from 2024

[6:28] of $32 million 60,000 and our proposed

[6:32] uh Levy for

[6:33] 2025 is 33 mil 393

[6:38] 394 uh this will raise the tax rate the

[6:41] tax rate uh is going to go from

[6:44] $12.90 to uh 13, 37 cents that's a 3%

[6:49] increase okay and uh also in the budget

[6:53] you're going to notice a increase in

[6:55] waste collection fees uh the waste

[6:57] collection fees were is proposed to r

[6:59] one a week this equates to

[7:01] $52 annually for a non-exempt union unit

[7:05] so the units will go from $288 to 340

[7:09] and this results in

[7:11] 1,180 679 addition additional Revenue

[7:15] compared to the 2024 budget also we want

[7:19] to increase uh uh exempt units uh an

[7:23] additional $1.75 a week or $91 per year

[7:27] and it go from the exemp UN for 137 to

[7:31] 228 ex exempt units have not been raised

[7:34] for at least 8 years that we've been

[7:37] here so I just want to do that uh we can

[7:43] you clarify exempt units exempt units so

[7:46] what's an exemp unit Molly it's anyone

[7:49] who has an exemption that's senior low

[7:51] income that's disability physical

[7:54] disability and low income and uh

[7:57] veterans disability and that and so they

[8:00] get a reduced amount and that's for if

[8:03] you have one two or three units it's

[8:05] always going to be that one price one

[8:08] yeah yeah do not increase for units just

[8:10] the one

[8:12] price so you're increasing for those

[8:14] categories we want to increase for those

[8:15] ceg

[8:17] okay okay uh and so before so let me say

[8:20] exemp does that include um non for

[8:22] profits no it does not any non

[8:25] for-profits that have a one two or three

[8:29] family unit are charged the the trash

[8:32] fee cuz they are putting trash out at

[8:34] the side of the

[8:36] curve so we we have corrected that in

[8:39] the past it's been different but we've

[8:41] corrected that because city code calls

[8:44] for that so if you're not exemp if you

[8:47] have one unit is 340 two units is uh

[8:50] would be 680 like that except for exemp

[8:54] units no matter if you have one two or

[8:55] three units you're going to be two it's

[8:57] going to be $228 under this

[9:00] policy uh also we increased uh this if

[9:05] the code fees uh are passed by the city

[9:08] council uh we expect the revenues uh for

[9:10] the code Department to increase by

[9:13] 210,000 and also in this budget uh the

[9:15] police parking we anticipate an

[9:18] additional 370,000 from the increase

[9:21] from the

[9:22] 224 2024 budget uh so the increase in

[9:26] code fees and police fees will increase

[9:28] Revenue by 580,000 that's what we're

[9:31] looking to do 58,000 total between and

[9:34] police right could you tell me the

[9:35] police one again please uh please is

[9:38] 370,000 thank you I'm going to give you

[9:41] guys a copy of this whole rundown so

[9:44] later okay just it's good that you take

[9:46] notes so you don't forget okay uh okay

[9:51] one of the things that we've done into

[9:53] is that we're going to request that we

[9:55] capture some ARA funds uh this the

[9:58] amount of 3

[9:59] 82,2 78 this includes um the Carver

[10:04] Community rehab of 1,250,000 uh sidewalk

[10:09] program

[10:10] $94,400

[10:12] empowerment rehab

[10:20] $54,600 we're proposing to recapture

[10:23] this uh funds for the blue lines that we

[10:26] put into that budget to help help us uh

[10:29] for this budget and that's a total

[10:31] amount of

[10:35] 382278 okay also in the 2025 proposed

[10:38] budget we're also uh asking to use

[10:43] 5,465 32 and appropriated fund

[10:47] balance currently the city has 18.9

[10:50] million in fund balance which is made up

[10:53] of uh 6.5 million of restricted

[10:56] funds uh 3.8 million of assign funds and

[11:00] 8.6 million of unassigned funds if the

[11:03] city utilizes the 5.5 million that we're

[11:06] requesting uh there approximately be 3.1

[11:09] million left over the time funds now

[11:11] we're hoping that we don't use any of

[11:14] the fund balance but you you have to put

[11:16] in there to to make sure that we can you

[11:19] just explain the restricted and

[11:20] nonrestricted for some members who might

[11:23] want okay I'm going to start with the

[11:27] okay let me start with what the Capal

[11:29] restricted okay the 6.5 million is uh

[11:32] 1.1 million for the debt Reserve we have

[11:36] Capital reserves for uh if we need uh uh

[11:39] to buy things that are not budgeted 4.2

[11:42] million our tax Searcher rity uh uh is

[11:45] 621,000 in case uh you know there's no

[11:49] budget money for any changes in seary uh

[11:52] we have a 150,000

[11:55] $157,300 for uh snow and ice in case we

[11:58] have one of one of those big ice storms

[12:00] like we did a few years ago where we we

[12:03] had like almost a million dollars in

[12:05] here we used 900,000 which did not

[12:07] destroy the budget and also we have

[12:11] litigation and claims for

[12:14] 24,99 we have uh 3.8 million in assigned

[12:18] funds and the assigned funds is uh is uh 2023 purchase orders that rolled over

[12:24] into 2024 plus the 3 uh 3.1 million that

[12:29] we that we using for the 2024 budget if

[12:32] you recall the budget so that's the

[12:35] assigned funds un assigned the

[12:37] unassigned fund is you know money that

[12:39] we have that's not regulated that you

[12:41] know we can move around if we need it

[12:44] that is the portion that we're going to

[12:45] use the 5.5 million out of that 8 8.6

[12:51] million all right now we did a we did a

[12:53] lot of revenues over there now we're

[12:55] going to look at some uh high points of

[12:57] I shouldn't say high points but

[12:59] uh cost on expenses

[13:04] and revenue yeah and in previous budgets

[13:07] we continually talked about the police

[13:09] department having a large amount of

[13:11] unpaid parking tickets and I I haven't

[13:14] been seeing that coming up in the budget

[13:16] although conversations is I don't see

[13:19] anyone here um is that they're doing

[13:21] something about it but I don't see it

[13:22] like

[13:24] anywhere number I could ask for for a

[13:27] briefing and that

[13:31] Chief okay thank you for um and more

[13:35] Revenue

[13:36] questions so for line a 2025 DX last

[13:42] year we didn't have anything in there

[13:44] and then this year we had 1200 and um

[13:47] that's Simon Park I believe it is and

[13:49] how is that

[13:50] determined line

[13:53] 2025 and the Reven

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[14:00] that that how how how's that determined

[14:02] that is from the uh rental of

[14:06] the The Pavilion pilion and the room

[14:11] they have so last year they didn't do

[14:13] anything at all with that correct okay

[14:17] um my other question is about line 2025

[14:19] F the tenen Le ke last year was 2000

[14:22] this year this year you anticipating 500

[14:26] uh we're we're anticipating to do

[14:30] um what's it called Rehab of the den

[14:32] cour and we we F that number come from

[14:37] not going to be able to use all the

[14:38] quotes Okay uh we're actually I just

[14:41] want to remind you guys that we're going

[14:42] to go into detail

[14:44] of next all right so I'm just trying to

[14:47] get an overview for you the whole budget

[14:49] but you know we'll take the questions as

[14:51] they come uh all right uh we talked

[14:54] about revenues now we're going to talk

[14:55] about

[14:57] expenses we're retirement for

[15:01] 2024 2025 proposed budget is increased

[15:05] by

[15:06] 2,450

[15:08] 359 that's a 22% increase from the

[15:11] adopted 2024 budget it's going from 11

[15:14] Milli 161 641 to 13

[15:19] million6 13.6 million this is due to

[15:22] State Controllers uh calculations with

[15:25] the PBA negotiated uh 384 plus the uh

[15:30] fire department retirement which is you

[15:33] know the biggest bulk of the of the uh

[15:38] cost health insurance our health

[15:40] insurance increased by 5% we're going to

[15:44] go from 14, 400,000 to 15,

[15:51] 11246 we're we're praying that this is

[15:54] going to be right there and we're

[15:56] looking for instance uh for

[16:00] 2024 to basically just be at zero or a

[16:04] small deficit so uh we're you know we

[16:08] have uh you know our agents and stuff

[16:11] like that actually says they're looking

[16:13] at a 6 to 12% increase uh especially

[16:17] because of uh specialty drugs as you all

[16:20] watch on TV which uh if you see what the

[16:23] costs are which someday I got to bring

[16:25] them in one of these days it show what

[16:27] some of these things cost you're not

[16:28] going to believe what we pay

[16:29] as a as a an insured as a self-insured

[16:33] group okay so we talked about uh retir

[16:37] going up 22% we talk about health share

[16:39] going by 5% also in this budget our debt

[16:43] Services increased by 211% resulting in

[16:47] 1,637 1880 of additional cost our debt

[16:51] service has gone from 7.7 million to 9.3

[16:54] million this is because we're just

[16:56] borrowing more we've actually have a

[16:58] plan in place where the last two years

[17:00] we have not bonded we got we did bands

[17:03] of ban anticipation gos that is to keep

[17:06] the uh cost of Interest low and uh and we're trying to wait for the uh for

[17:14] the market to be right to actually B

[17:16] those monies uh we thought with this uh 5 uh half% uh decrease in Federal

[17:22] Reserve uh the M will go down but the really the rates have really not

[17:27] gone down as of yet we're hoping that

[17:29] after election we we'll see something

[17:31] happen better for for us I just want to

[17:33] remind everybody too uh that what's not

[17:36] in here is uh there's Union negotiations

[17:39] that are in progress uh we have the fire

[17:41] department local 28 we have csca and we

[17:44] have Operating Engineers um we have not

[17:47] anticipated or we haven't got any

[17:49] anticipation from the mayor or from the

[17:52] unions of what the settlement cost is so

[17:55] that cost is not within our uh excuse me

[17:59] and not within our budget any negotiated

[18:01] cost will come out of fund balance again

[18:04] okay so that those are the highlights

[18:07] for the general fund let's talk about

[18:08] water

[18:09] funds the proposed 2025 water fund

[18:12] budget is a modest 2.88% increase from

[18:16] the 2024 adopted budget uh the total

[18:19] budget increased by only $282,100

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[18:29] with this proposed a water bu budget we

[18:32] are going to use

[18:44] $61,900 the proposed uh Sur fund uh

[18:48] budget for 2025 is 5.5% increase uh

[18:53] compared to the 2024 budget it's an

[18:55] increase of

[18:57] 864,000

[18:59] $65 again uh there is no uh rate

[19:03] increase uh proposed in the SE budget uh

[19:06] we are planning to use debt reserve of

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[19:27] 261,000 request is only a a

[19:30] 2.29% increase compared to

[19:33] 20224 doap the budget uh the whole Golf

[19:37] Course budget is increased uh margely

[19:39] increased by $ 35,6 65 it's been doing a

[19:43] great job of Matt's been doing a great

[19:45] job running it um Chris Wall has been

[19:48] doing a great job overseeing uh uh the

[19:51] everything that's happening so uh

[19:54] looking for a modus increase

[19:57] without uh and 35,000 can't beat that

[20:01] okay now as you looked at our capital

[20:03] budget our capital budget we have

[20:05] proposals of $18 million

[20:09] request and out of the $18 million $1.6

[20:12] million we're going to use capital

[20:14] reserve 3

[20:17] 362.00 in Gulf

[20:20] 665,000 for water 575,000 from swer

[20:26] we're going to use Capital reserves oh

[20:27] let's not forget 40,00

[20:29] of from the Community Development Fund

[20:31] we're going to use this to utilize the

[20:33] reduce the total to 16 million at 38

[20:38] 16.38

[20:39] million um I'm going to have a uh I'm

[20:43] going to have uh Derek go line any line

[20:47] ask any questions about revenues he's

[20:49] got the highlights for

[20:52] you before you go into the um let me

[20:54] just open the anybody who have any

[20:56] questions so I just want to recap so the

[20:58] proposed budget right now carry a taxx

[21:00] increase of

[21:02] 3% and the waste increase of $1 per week

[21:06] for non-exempt units and the exempt unit

[21:10] is $1.75 per

[21:13] week okay thank you any questions before

[21:17] we move into

[21:18] Revenue but we'll be going line by line

[21:21] later right okay yes yeah I did want get

[21:23] a clarification when you were talking

[21:25] about um you said 40,000 from

[21:27] development

[21:28] I don't cdbg CDG I think develop is

[21:32] Right

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[21:39] show all

[21:41] right any other questions com I just

[21:44] want to mention too I didn't realize it

[21:45] just till now until m p showed me and

[21:48] the capital funds are blue lines in it

[21:49] those are not

[21:51] AR you sure put these in the back these

[21:54] are not our sorry those are those are

[21:57] whates Capital reserves that we're going

[21:59] to be using on the cap in the capital

[22:03] budget blue is is not our it's Capital

[22:06] reserves yeah I should have did

[22:08] different color I'm sorry I didn't think

[22:10] about it I like the baby

[22:13] blue any other questions

[22:16] comments if not we'll just move into

[22:18] revenue and it's over to Derek good

[22:21] evening Council I'm just going going

[22:23] through some R highlights for the 2025

[22:25] budget um sincey

[22:28] went through a couple of these uh high

[22:31] level revenues uh building alteration

[22:33] permits uh parking finds the uh fund

[22:36] balance and uh Federal C assistance will

[22:39] not be going those uh but let's first

[22:42] start off with the Sal and use tax uh we

[22:44] received approximately 18.4 million in

[22:47] 2023 we're expecting about 18 million in

[22:50] 2024 and we're anticipating 18.3 million

[22:53] in 2025 uh these numbers also by the

[22:56] county so we're spot on those uh cannab

[22:59] cannabis excise tax uh we received

[23:01] 532,000 in 2023 expected 800,000 in 2024

[23:06] and we participating approximately

[23:08] 850,000 in

[23:09] 2025

[23:11] um fire protection

[23:14] contract sorry I had a question Mr goad

[23:18] please does that take into consideration

[23:20] like the new businesses that are

[23:21] currently in the P that projections yeah

[23:24] we're projecting with based on the new

[23:26] businesses in the pipeline thank

[23:29] how many please how many how many we

[23:32] determining that based on

[23:38] four fire protection contract before you

[23:41] sorry So currently we're

[23:43] $800,000 actual on this line no we're

[23:46] expecting expecting

[23:50] 800,000 we're still qu 3 and quarter 4

[23:54] is so actual is like 580 something as of

[23:57] September or that's

[23:59] all well actually as of J Fe March April

[24:03] May June as of June yeah CU we have to

[24:06] get August but we can look up August

[24:08] July August and September we haven't

[24:10] gotten yet and then the last two months

[24:13] that's six

[24:14] months but as you can see as the new

[24:16] businesses are

[24:19] opening you know we're we we we feel

[24:22] it's going to be increased but it's not

[24:24] going to it's going to the other

[24:26] business will have less these you know

[24:29] people move around you know yeah all

[24:31] right continue please uh the next one is

[24:35] the fire protection contract um there's

[24:37] a new negotiation actually I think the

[24:39] uh fire department already put a

[24:42] contract together with G which should be

[24:44] receiving 75,000 in Revenue uh with them

[24:47] uh believe the commissioner also um

[24:50] talked about the trash charges so I'll

[24:52] skip that as well excuse me um Derek may

[24:55] I just ask where was that $75,000

[24:59] fire protection contract previously in

[25:01] other words it says zero across it was

[25:03] in the budget but it's been I think zero

[25:06] for the last few years yeah before I

[25:08] think was a year or two year ago we got

[25:10] a truck five years yeah five yeah we got

[25:13] a truck and something else yet so we

[25:14] haven't we haven't got cash before this

[25:17] the first time got cash before that yeah

[25:19] before that so we haven't had cash in

[25:21] the last you know since prior to uh

[25:26] Co okay thank you thank you D just back

[25:29] up a little and let's talk about um the

[25:32] pilot uh see you're 2.5 last year we um

[25:36] adopted

[25:37] 2.55 it's almost the same with inre

[25:41] basically we in then that area 2.3 2.4

[25:45] 2.5 so we have not really gone over that

[25:48] yeah in 24 I build 2.3 yeah so we're

[25:53] right we're right in that area you know

[25:55] what line that that is right from the

[25:57] top of the first page

[25:59] a

[26:01] 1081 first

[26:05] page

[26:07] okay while while we in the subject of

[26:09] Pilots is there anyone to quantify like

[26:11] the monetary

[26:14] gains can you I'm sorry can you ask that

[26:17] again so I think just trying to

[26:18] understand like the long-term benefits

[26:20] of having Pilots continue is there any

[26:22] way to in layman's terms well I mean I I

[26:27] guess the best thing about a pilot is

[26:29] every year there's a reduction in the

[26:32] percentage so we're getting more every

[26:34] year the problem is that we're also

[26:37] getting more pilots every year so as we obtain more money from the pilot

[26:43] we also have more Partnerships and more

[26:47] pilots

[26:49] so

[26:51] yeah is there is there a standard link

[26:53] of time on Pilots or depends on whether

[26:57] it's a met Lex pilot or it's a Ida pilot

[27:01] there is a standard for Ida Pilots it

[27:04] should be 10 years though we've seen

[27:06] some differences in that and then for

[27:09] Metroplex Pilots

[27:11] unfortunately we're I I I think it

[27:14] serves really well for the city but

[27:16] we're at the vein of the of Metroflex

[27:20] because they can do basically whatever

[27:22] they want they can have Pilots for as

[27:24] long as they want and they can put them

[27:26] immediately on the they don't follow the

[27:29] taxable status

[27:31] calendar March 1st

[27:34] to uh April or excuse me February 30th

[27:38] they so property is obtained Metroplex

[27:42] can put a pilot on it

[27:44] immediately so there there's some

[27:46] nuances to both of

[27:48] those um plus plus the extend Pilots to

[27:52] they do so if if if there's something

[27:55] that's coming

[27:56] up G for instance they in perpetuity

[28:00] have extended that pilot

[28:03] so it's um you know I mean it's tough because it forces the burden

[28:09] on the taxpayer the the residential

[28:11] taxpayer I should say and at the same

[28:13] time they give the pilots to uh bring

[28:16] businesses in C it's a double-edged

[28:18] store for all of us it's a double-edged

[28:20] store it's one of those things where

[28:22] it's really good for the city but at the

[28:24] same time it's it also it it hurts us in

[28:29] some all right so just to be clear um

[28:32] you can you said that the ibaa pilots it

[28:34] can be up to 10 years it doesn't have to

[28:36] be there I've seen some that are

[28:39] negotiated differently but that's they

[28:41] have there's more regulation with IA

[28:44] than there is in terms of

[28:47] metr and and I agree it does help the

[28:49] city however I mean I think we're we've

[28:52] really done well in terms of you know

[28:54] developing businesses so I was just

[28:56] thinking that as we get better than and

[28:58] have so many businesses we' be seeing

[29:00] some reductions in that so that that

[29:02] money can get back for absolutely and we do you know every year those

[29:06] Pilots are built so that every year

[29:09] there's more Revenue coming into the

[29:11] city but at the same time as we get more

[29:14] Revenue coming into the city and we have

[29:16] more pilots coming on board we're taking

[29:19] assessed value off the books or taxable

[29:22] value of the books so

[29:25] okay right thank you yes

[29:31] go

[29:32] ahead um so again uh anthy commissioner

[29:36] Ferrari trash chares those um excess

[29:40] waste fee um C is in development the

[29:44] plan under the mayor's post budget we're

[29:47] anticipating that 500,000 in Reed by end

[29:53] of25 2130 f

[30:00] okay so we're so this is

[30:04] covering we're talking

[30:06] about the I don't even know what to call

[30:09] it the I know what you're saying that's

[30:12] what we're talking about

[30:14] okay the larger yeah okay well they

[30:18] were to me jackpot supposed to be a good

[30:21] thing these aren't good things so that's

[30:22] what we're talking about all right thank

[30:25] you so the the question is last year we

[30:28] um we budgeted

[30:30] $100,000 and this year we're budgeting

[30:33] anticipating a

[30:34] $500,000 I know there were committee set

[30:37] up to meet and to bring forth a

[30:39] recommendation to the council up to now

[30:41] we didn't there's no recommendation to

[30:43] the council right I'm going to make sure

[30:45] that you get recommendation to the

[30:47] council you know I'm making sure that so

[30:50] what we need to do we need to know where

[30:52] the committee is in terms of that and

[30:54] the recommendation need to come to the

[30:55] council because at this point in time

[30:57] the council has not been briefed to what

[30:59] is actually going to happen if it's

[31:01] going to be a standalone jackpot that we

[31:03] call it a jackpot or it's going to be

[31:05] additional garbage in terms of how do we

[31:07] move forward so we need to come to the

[31:11] council at some point in time that we

[31:12] can move forward and achieve this

[31:16] $500,000 that I set out there wouldn't

[31:19] we be talking about it when we have our

[31:21] presentation on trash yes okay but I

[31:24] just want to make that that point out

[31:25] there because at this point in time time

[31:28] no recommendation was brought to the

[31:30] council to move forward with adopting

[31:33] the this um policy in terms of us going

[31:36] to in terms of the the jackpot garbage

[31:40] that what we were supposed to

[31:41] address but it's showing up but I just

[31:43] want to make that statement and we we I really plan to have it done in 2024 so

[31:49] I'm going to really push and make sure

[31:52] it's done for

[31:54] 2025 myself

[31:58] thank you please please

[32:01] proceed next item is the patrol safety

[32:04] findes um Accord to the police's

[32:07] analysis we're estima approximately 600k

[32:10] for 2025 I'm sorry line line number uh

[32:14] yes that is 26 a

[32:17] 2610n is that it oh yeah that's the bus

[32:20] Patrol yeah

[32:23] M next big ticket item sale of houses A2

[32:29] 60a uh with a plan spearheaded by the

[32:32] director of development and supported by

[32:35] various departments in the city are

[32:36] expecting 4.5 million Revenue um

[32:40] currently uh there are 88 properties

[32:42] timing sale a total value of 2.6

[32:47] million we're already at 3 million oh we

[32:51] at million now and and we have pending

[32:54] 88 how much money 2.6 2.6 so how do we

[32:58] get from pending to collection and you

[33:00] know how

[33:03] we're uh there's wonderful Development

[33:06] Department our wonderful lawyers are

[33:08] going to be closing like crazy so if

[33:10] they're pending then that means they've

[33:12] already moved out of development are

[33:13] they now in that's correct okay so so

[33:18] that's see once once the contractor sale

[33:22] ass signs over the law and we started

[33:24] towards close so so I guess ultimately I

[33:28] guess my my question trying to figure

[33:29] out is um if so it's in law right now

[33:32] the

[33:33] 2 6 million is is everything's in the

[33:36] law department and then we can just wait

[33:37] till they close

[33:38] and 2.6 million 8 properties for the 8

[33:43] properties that are

[33:45] pending are there other 80 properties

[33:48] that have contracts on yes okay then

[33:51] yeah the staff's working on

[33:55] it no way we're going to close this by

[33:57] the end of the year

[33:59] uh probably not 88 but

[34:02] maybe we you know we can like enum it I

[34:06] that's what I was going to ask yeah yes

[34:09] we'll see where we are by the end of the

[34:10] year you usually go to March because

[34:13] it's really contracts been signed at 24

[34:16] so we usually wait till March and then

[34:18] anything up to March because that's the

[34:21] last day for you know you usually get 90

[34:23] days after the first of the year to uh close your books you know MH so

[34:29] that's that's our plan I can look into

[34:31] double check that tomorrow but before I

[34:34] confirm that I want to double check

[34:37] there are 8 in under contract in law I

[34:41] will check it just would be ideal we can

[34:45] get as much money as possible absolutely

[34:47] this year all right thank you and if we

[34:50] can continue on the sales of the home

[34:51] program line is can anyone speak to just

[34:54] the that program of itself does that

[34:56] $4.5 million represent like the ceiling

[34:59] for this line or is there still room for

[35:01] growth or is that a premature question

[35:04] um I think I think there's a room for

[35:07] growth because we're just about uh we

[35:10] just have completed the foreclosure for

[35:12] the 21 and 22 properties right for the

[35:16] [Music]

[35:17] 2022

[35:19] foreclosure was

[35:21] completed um we're now waiting on a

[35:24] motion for some judgement for um about

[35:27] 20 properties and then we have started

[35:32] the wheels in motion for the next

[35:34] foreclosure um Liz pendant has been

[35:37] filed title is done the next step is to

[35:40] file the petition so that's in motion so

[35:43] how many properties so the next the

[35:46] Foreclosure we're working on currently

[35:48] we started with 429 properties some

[35:52] people have redeemed though so theyve

[35:54] paid

[35:56] um probably I don't know exactly how

[35:59] many are closing on but there are people

[36:01] redeeming

[36:03] 39 39

[36:07] [Music]

[36:13] that's thank

[36:15] you any other questions if

[36:20] [Music]

[36:23] not of course uh temporary St uh did

[36:28] received 1.3 million in

[36:30] 2024 and we will receive uh 1.3 million

[36:34] in

[36:35] 2025 D can you please talk about this

[36:38] why this is going to go away in 2025 is

[36:41] that correct yes we this isting 1.3

[36:45] million 2026

[36:48] okay uh next L item Casino license fee

[36:52] um in 2023 the city received

[36:54] approximately 3.7 million in Revenue uh

[36:56] we anticip

[36:58] 3.9 million at the end of 2024 and we're

[37:01] looking at 4 million in

[37:03] 2025 yeah this is confirmed

[37:09] with those are allor highlights um

[37:13] commissioner dve did talk about the

[37:14] appropriate fund balance in detail and

[37:16] the federal Co assistance of the 3

[37:20] million so um let's see I mean do you

[37:27] want all the questions now or no no we

[37:30] just talk about Revenue question well no

[37:32] question all revenue questions though

[37:35] okay so um the police the increase in

[37:40] the police fees are included in this um

[37:43] yes okay that's good and um so that's

[37:46] like sort of across the board many of my

[37:49] questions

[37:51] um the building and alteration permits

[37:55] um of projecting 600 um and that is line

[38:00] that's included with his

[38:04] proposal

[38:05] okay it was

[38:07] 2555 building and alteration permits so

[38:11] that's

[38:14] 2555 so you're saying that this 600,000

[38:17] includes what he's proposed before we go

[38:20] through the whole public process okay

[38:23] that's 210,000 increase and police is

[38:26] 370,000

[38:28] okay and so that's the parking finds

[38:32] um

[38:35] okay uh I think that was all of

[38:41] my that is all of my questions for

[38:47] Revenue line a

[38:50] 15898 abandon B property fee in 2024

[38:55] there was a significant increase in 48

[38:58] 450,000 and back down 250 what accounted

[39:02] for that inre that's Theos no which line yeah vacant property fees

[39:10] 15589 each that went down yes it's yeah

[39:15] uh actually it's going down because uh

[39:18] in between 20 23 24 properties were

[39:21] being uh the banks were were uh that

[39:25] were holding L these abandoned

[39:26] properties they're actually summoning

[39:28] them after because they had for so many

[39:31] years they're able to write off the

[39:33] losses after so many years so they

[39:34] actually were sell and that's the reason

[39:37] why it's what went down so it's not as

[39:39] many as

[39:41] abandon buildings that you know I'm not

[39:44] talking about foreclosed banding talking

[39:46] about Banks or or property owners who uh you know like move to Florida

[39:52] left their houses there you

[39:54] know it was more of addressing the BLS

[39:57] and the abandoned building that people

[39:58] just leave it there and walk away and

[40:00] don't do anything and we are incurring

[40:02] costs to maintain these so we passed

[40:05] that um couple years ago to address to

[40:07] pass on the cost to the home owner and

[40:09] at the same time attach a fee right

[40:12] these are mostly mostly those hous these

[40:14] houses we're talking about are houses

[40:15] that the tax are being paid but they're

[40:17] still not being maintained or

[40:22] lifted I so mostly this going were for

[40:24] closing that's mostly where where it was

[40:26] coming from

[40:29] any other question on Revenue one second

[40:32] I just want to make sure CU I think they

[40:34] answer them make sure talk about 116

[40:38] that's about the Cannabis oh um okay we

[40:41] talked about tennis we talked about all

[40:43] right I think we got

[40:46] everything except the unpaid parking

[40:48] tickets which you said the police depart

[40:50] I to give us that because that is

[40:52] something that they are going after now

[40:55] L Awards so we need to address that and

[40:57] see where we can up the revenue that

[40:59] okay any other

[41:02] questions seeing no I will just go into

[41:06] counil

[41:08] and the Clark

[41:20] Department C

[41:22] 8110 um C budget has increased by 10% uh

[41:27] is due to the removal of outside Legal

[41:29] Services uh we figured that it wasn't

[41:31] needed so to hasn't been utilized in the

[41:33] last couple

[41:34] years um the clerk's uh office

[41:38] a1410 Clerk's budget has increased by

[41:42] 4.24% from

[41:44] 2993 to

[41:47] 33231

[41:49] um to supply P six thank you

[42:07] Miss Michael can you just give us a

[42:09] brief summary on your for your

[42:11] departments and talk highlights on

[42:13] anything that you need to address with

[42:15] us is Michael yes I

[42:23] hear I go for it if you

[42:25] want um most of the uh Parks budget is

[42:29] the same um I think one the council

[42:31] members did note um there's an increase

[42:34] in stien um that was du to we mov the uh

[42:39] Deputy registar 5,000 which was included

[42:42] in the salary line can you can you speak

[42:43] up a little bit please I'm sorry we move

[42:46] the deputy registers $5,000 stien from

[42:49] their salary line into the stien line so

[42:52] you see the increase there um it giv a

[42:55] 3% increase in that in salary

[42:57] CCA has not negotiated their contracts

[43:01] yet um so there's no increase in those

[43:04] salary lines other than that the

[43:07] increases are due to supply increases

[43:11] that's okay I have one correction on

[43:14] that the the siphon that's or called

[43:18] Sion for the deputy register is actually

[43:21] under the public health law section 4124

[43:24] provides for the local regist to paid on

[43:26] a Fe basis that's not really a SI that's

[43:29] like a register

[43:30] fee to be

[43:34] paid so that would go under my budget

[43:38] not the reg or depuy's budget that would

[43:41] go

[43:43] your so you want us put back in

[43:47] salary that's what it is yeah in your

[43:50] salary line or the deputy reg the deputy

[43:53] but into Deputy register and not you is

[43:56] what they're saying

[43:58] so you say move the 5,000 to dep regist

[44:01] from 52 to into the regist which

[44:06] is s that she's talking about down here

[44:09] line 81410 36 okay we don't have it's a

[44:14] pay it's not a sment right so you want

[44:16] to put it into you want to it out of

[44:19] there yeah into the salary and the Sal

[44:22] so the dep regist will go from 52462 to

[44:25] 57

[44:27] you're saying it's not the deputy it's

[44:29] me the

[44:30] register so we're increasing your salary

[44:34] 5,000

[44:36] then

[44:38] [Music]

[44:39] that's you

[44:45] receive in the

[44:47] [Music]

[44:53] past to increase from 83 to 8 and the

[44:57] reason for that is

[44:59] because since I've started I've been

[45:02] doing all the registry work even the

[45:05] nights and weekends when I'm getting

[45:06] calls from F directors or the

[45:11] state so since this is not a salary line

[45:14] why don't we create a line a410

[45:17] 1368 name it this the deputy register

[45:21] um whatever that I put that 5,000 there

[45:25] because this is not salary

[45:29] okay so did you say that again this is

[45:31] not salary it's 5,000 yes okay it's a

[45:35] Sal butless it comes with

[45:38] benefit that's why affect the benit I

[45:40] thought it was a benefit too that's why

[45:42] you put it as a stud because it show up

[45:43] as a salary if we it's supposed to be a

[45:47] salary but if we put it with salary then

[45:50] we are going to have to increase the

[45:51] benefits I think is what Mr one of you

[45:54] is saying right no you don't increase

[45:57] wouldn't the salary go from 83 235 to 88

[46:01] 235 and then wouldn't that affect the

[46:04] percentage don't we don't we do benefits

[46:06] based on a percentage of salary her

[46:08] benefits W change

[46:11] though because if we already put 5,000

[46:13] it's already in the budget

[46:17] 5,000 okay it's already it's already end so so

[46:25] what you're saying is that on the

[46:26] benefit line which is i' have to find

[46:30] that but

[46:32] back talking social security stuff like

[46:34] that right so she makes more money her health insurance is not going to

[46:39] change nothing

[46:41] changes okay what Social Security would

[46:45] change it's already accounted for

[46:47] because as as it's accounted for okay as

[46:50] long as it's

[46:51] already that's great it's part of if

[46:54] it's on the compensation language is

[46:56] like

[46:57] okay so moving forward we would put the

[46:59] 5,000 up to um

[47:02] 1410100 city clerk okay and we would

[47:05] leave 3,000 in uh 1410 136

[47:11] stien correct yes okay thank you I just

[47:14] want to say this I didn't hear this

[47:16] before supp heard about it so because

[47:19] it's been happening for over 15 years

[47:22] that I've been but the de was always at

[47:25] 5,000 prior correct but they were also

[47:27] doing more

[47:29] work I I was unaware of this

[47:33] change we talked

[47:34] [Music]

[47:39] about go ahead

[47:42] pleas yeah go ahead so where where was

[47:44] the 5,000 prior to this in the deputy

[47:48] register salary in the deputy register

[47:50] salary oh okay all right so 54,000 then

[47:53] minus 5,000 now

[47:57] it was

[47:58] an8 no he'll get no was it de regar was

[48:02] 50,000 she was making 40 45

[48:06] 45,9 34 plus I'm sorry was 59 5934 right

[48:12] she was it was at her salary would have

[48:15] been 45 934 because as a depy register

[48:18] she received extra 5,000 and made it go

[48:21] to the depy reg from from 45 to

[48:25] 50,000 right and

[48:27] proposed so now instead of

[48:30] 52462 totally she'd be getting or

[48:32] whoever I mean it's

[48:34] 55462 Is What It ultimately will be no it's going to be the 52 minus the

[48:42] five minus 5,000 ohus yeah so we're

[48:46] taking it from the deputy registar and

[48:48] giving it to the

[48:50] clerk correct 5,000 y so

[48:54] 47462 got it so starts 47 42 and we're

[48:58] taking off the stiping line and taking

[49:00] off the S line except for 32,000 instead

[49:03] of

[49:04] 8000 all right done

[49:07] gotta

[49:09] okay any other

[49:13] questions okay we'll move

[49:17] into assessment sure

[49:21] assessment all right assessment the toal

[49:24] assessment budget increased by 2

[49:27] 61% five page five page five bottom

[49:32] five you have

[49:35] [Music]

[49:37] order go the smaller um Department I

[49:40] will do assessment receipt development

[49:43] and then I will go into

[49:44] utilities and then golf codes fire and

[49:49] police thank

[49:51] you

[49:53] okay so the assessment budget has

[49:56] increased small marginal amount of

[49:59] 2.61% from

[50:02] 35,000,000

[50:06] that's it yeah so I mean salaries

[50:11] increased based on the steps for the um

[50:14] and then whatever management amount yeah

[50:17] that they had um the I had a computer

[50:22] for 10 years so I need a new one so we I

[50:25] didn't realize that the in has increased

[50:27] so they increased my computer budget

[50:30] that I had um so that was an increase in

[50:32] the amount and then I recently got

[50:34] elected to the Executive Board of my

[50:36] Association and there may be some travel

[50:39] Associated I think they cover some of it

[50:41] but just I I gave an overage for um

[50:44] professional development just in case

[50:46] that there was some other necessary

[50:48] stuff I think there's only we do two

[50:51] Zoom meetings a year and then

[50:54] two onsite meetings and one of them is

[50:56] in Green Island so it would not require

[50:59] anything but one is in Syracuse so I

[51:02] don't know I have to wait and find out

[51:04] but that I think those are the only real

[51:05] increases nothing you know nothing we

[51:08] don't really spend I I think supplies

[51:10] have been okay um we've gotten to the

[51:13] point now where we can not have to print

[51:16] our assessment role we can put it online

[51:18] as a PDF which is a huge savings with

[51:21] copying and and all those fees just

[51:24] right after you got your new copier too

[51:26] I know

[51:27] it actually works really well um but

[51:30] other than that you know other than

[51:32] increases in salary I

[51:34] think uh what's the longevity I think

[51:37] those are the you know the bigger areas

[51:39] that we've

[51:40] increased also want to mention that Umi

[51:43] has a has an advanced Pastor yeah and I

[51:48] just got an award of my

[51:49] com

[51:53] congratulations yeah it's it's fun I

[51:56] appreciate being in this position I

[51:57] really love working for the city it's

[51:59] just yeah I mean these are tough times

[52:00] so I understand um we don't we don't ask

[52:03] for a whole lot and we try to do a whole

[52:06] lot

[52:07] so so so I ask everybody this you know

[52:11] is being handed down to me we ask every

[52:14] Department give us a brief what's

[52:15] happening in your department what is new

[52:17] what is old what needs to change sure

[52:19] tell us um I mean I think you know as

[52:22] our Equalization rate continues to go

[52:24] down I think the city needs to think

[52:27] about being in a place where maybe a

[52:29] reval is something that we look at um

[52:33] it's not going to solve all our problems

[52:35] but financially it puts us in a better

[52:37] position um it doesn't inre the levy is

[52:41] what it is and with the Caps that we

[52:44] have with the levy you know you can't go

[52:46] much more but it it puts more of the

[52:50] burden on the places that we're seeing

[52:52] where there's change in um ship where

[52:57] there's change in there there's a lot of

[52:59] flips going on in the city I mean we've

[53:01] got we've got places in the city that

[53:04] we've got sales of

[53:06] 319

[53:08] 320,000 that we wouldn't have

[53:10] necessarily seen before because people

[53:12] are actually putting some money into

[53:14] those areas so I think that's really

[53:17] fantastic but it it's unevenly

[53:20] distributed in terms of where you look

[53:22] at the assessed value so it's something

[53:24] that we should look at I've got some

[53:26] quotes you know not saying it's

[53:28] something the the market is still a

[53:30] little unstable so it's we don't know

[53:34] what's going to continue to happen and as the state continues with our

[53:38] Equalization rate they' looked three

[53:39] years back so we're still faced with

[53:43] some of the postco um the the market

[53:46] stuff that's going on um but it it's one

[53:50] of those things that I think we need to

[53:52] think about um you know and is our

[53:54] Equalization rate you know it's a I had

[53:57] declared on our tenative Ro 64 but then

[54:01] the state came back to me and said 68.7

[54:04] or 68.4 five so it's not a big deal but

[54:07] when you're looking at properties where

[54:10] you're

[54:11] revaluing that 4 and a half% is is a

[54:14] pretty big deal that's Revenue that we

[54:16] could be taking in so it it's just

[54:18] something to it's something to think

[54:20] about um it's an expense especially with

[54:22] a municipality our size how much about

[54:26] could be at the very least one and a

[54:29] half million um but as you increase with

[54:33] other tools that could allow us to

[54:35] continue to stay at 100% in the future

[54:38] you could go anywhere from one and a

[54:40] half to 2 million and those are expenses

[54:43] that probably would be yearly so yeah

[54:47] they're things like um imagery so you've

[54:51] got a fly over and you've got a fly over

[54:53] you know you've got a plane flying over

[54:55] with a really fancy camera and they're

[54:57] looking down at an inch level so you can

[55:01] see everything they also have tracking

[55:03] software so year to year when they do a

[55:05] flyover they can tell you what has

[55:07] changed in your municipality so it's not

[55:10] even a benefit for us it's a benefit for

[55:11] the codes office it's a benefit for the

[55:14] police for fire for access points for

[55:18] you know I I'm not suggesting that we go

[55:21] full on but there's some thought that might be it might put us into a

[55:26] better situation financially going

[55:28] forward if we're at

[55:30] 100% um I think there's more work and

[55:33] research that needs to be done um but at

[55:36] the same time I have talked to some

[55:38] folks there's some agencies out there

[55:40] that do or some places that do some

[55:43] really good work for a municipality our

[55:47] size I think it would be best to

[55:49] Outsource that um rather than trying to

[55:52] do it in house because the resources

[55:54] that a company has

[55:57] um more than we have internally um in

[56:00] terms of Staffing and just resources in

[56:04] general looking at different uh

[56:05] platforms that give you more access to

[56:09] properties so go ahead please so do you

[56:11] think that this might be something that

[56:13] we should anticipate including in the

[56:14] 2026 budget um yeah I would say look

[56:18] into the future I wouldn't say

[56:19] necessarily I mean I think financially

[56:22] you know we're in a place where we have

[56:24] to kind of weigh some things and again

[56:27] it's one of those like does the cost of

[56:30] this

[56:31] outweigh the financial position it might

[56:33] put us in and I think it we could put

[56:36] some rfps out there we could talk to

[56:38] some people that are way more

[56:40] knowledgeable than me

[56:42] about um and I've had a couple of people

[56:44] approach me and say that they'd be

[56:46] willing to talk to city council they'd

[56:47] be willing to talk to the mayor so

[56:50] um I I'd love to look into it more

[56:54] before I say anything but I I certainly

[56:56] think with Bond ratings and every you

[56:59] know financially for the city it it

[57:02] might be worth looking into so you're

[57:05] saying million initially and then you

[57:08] said every year after that it's not a

[57:10] matter of every year after that that we

[57:12] have to do so the way that it's built

[57:16] the one proposal that I got because I

[57:19] looked into I just asked um it's a

[57:21] matter of spending over four years so

[57:23] it's not you don't have to pay in one

[57:25] year

[57:26] and there's payment plans and they work

[57:28] it they they make sure that it fits the

[57:31] need of the

[57:32] municipality so it's a long process it's

[57:35] not just a all of a sudden you're going

[57:37] to have a

[57:39] change um so you spread that over a

[57:42] couple of years but at the same time

[57:44] what it allows us to do is when we work

[57:47] with an outside agency we have the

[57:49] ability to then use them in future years

[57:52] to continue keeping the uh rate at 100

[57:56] as opposed to since I've been from we

[57:59] we've gone from

[58:01] 123% to now 68.4 5% that's a huge swing

[58:06] and now some of that was the market but

[58:08] some of it was

[58:09] just um before I came it was not having

[58:14] stability in the office and checking the

[58:16] sales like we should so it's just a

[58:18] matter of being able to have the

[58:20] resources going into the future to

[58:23] monitor all of that stuff and be able to

[58:26] keep us do some sales analysis to do

[58:29] some assessment analysis to see where

[58:31] the neighborhoods are carrying more

[58:34] value thank you so I just remind myself

[58:38] of something and I'm sure you're aware

[58:40] of it um from the May with regards

[58:44] to visits from your department to

[58:47] specific houses and I'm asking an visit

[58:50] asking for an inspection can you address

[58:52] that because I know it's a sore point

[58:54] that people have be complaining about it

[58:56] not happy about it uh can you elaborate

[58:59] to the council why is that being done

[59:01] and how can we strengthen that or make

[59:03] it more pleasant to people out there and

[59:05] that create an atmosphere sure well okay

[59:08] so I guess what I have said in the past

[59:11] is that we don't generate Revenue unless

[59:13] we're able to follow up on permits and

[59:16] work that's being done in the city so

[59:18] any work that's being done without

[59:20] permits any work that's being done where

[59:22] we're being denied access to a property

[59:25] any work that's being being done where

[59:27] we have a problem being able to even see

[59:30] the property we don't generate any

[59:33] revenue from that and a lot of times

[59:36] those properties are flipped so you have

[59:38] someone who's putting in a lot of work

[59:40] maybe they're not getting permits and

[59:42] then they're selling the property for

[59:43] three or four times what we have it

[59:45] assessed at so if you think of a

[59:48] property being assessed at maybe 50,000

[59:51] and it's selling for 300,000 we're

[59:53] missing out on

[59:55] $250,000 of potential tax revenue not to

[59:58] say that value or that cost or equates

[1:00:02] to

[1:00:03] Value but if we're not able to capture

[1:00:05] that we're not able to move the city

[1:00:08] forward so it's it's I mean it's

[1:00:12] difficult for us it's not that we're

[1:00:13] looking to go onto properties illegally

[1:00:16] or whatever everyone has the opportunity

[1:00:18] to say that they won't allow us in their

[1:00:21] house but when I find their property on

[1:00:23] MLS and I see that they've complet we

[1:00:26] flipped it of course I'm going to look

[1:00:27] at it there's an obligation for me to

[1:00:30] the city to say you've done something to

[1:00:34] your property whether you had a permit

[1:00:35] or not we need to engage in that because

[1:00:37] there's a huge change in the property

[1:00:41] and and I mean I guess and I'm not

[1:00:44] saying this to you fight me on that like

[1:00:46] I don't I'm okay with that like question

[1:00:48] me on that but that's why we have agance

[1:00:50] process in place so that you don't agree

[1:00:53] but if you sell your property for

[1:00:54] 300,000 and it's currently assessed for

[1:00:57] 100,000 and you're not interested in

[1:00:59] seeing a change in that or you're GNA be

[1:01:02] concerned about a change in that I have

[1:01:04] a problem with that because what you're

[1:01:06] doing is not going

[1:01:08] by the

[1:01:12] right you know I guess I don't

[1:01:16] have that's

[1:01:18] so I guess I I know this has come up

[1:01:21] before John and I don't we're not trying

[1:01:24] to create a problem but we're trying to

[1:01:25] do our job the best for the city and

[1:01:27] we're trying to you know we're looking

[1:01:29] we're facing this huge deficit in our

[1:01:31] budget and the

[1:01:33] weight I hear people talking about

[1:01:35] revenue and this and that and pardon my

[1:01:37] language I'm like hold my beer I mean

[1:01:39] this is what we do this is how we

[1:01:41] increase the tax base in the city is by

[1:01:44] going out and looking at properties that

[1:01:46] have been renovated we're not and I know

[1:01:49] you're going to continue to think that

[1:01:51] we are targeting no no that's I don't

[1:01:55] sorry I don't but I that's that's what

[1:01:57] the people are saying out there but

[1:01:58] that's the constant thing that has come

[1:02:00] up and that's

[1:02:01] not so the follow question to that is

[1:02:04] can we put something a formal process in

[1:02:07] place that rather than going out to the

[1:02:09] specific house on an evening can we just

[1:02:11] do a formal process send a letter to

[1:02:13] them and if they if they're not then we

[1:02:15] knocked on the door but we've we've done

[1:02:17] that we've done everything we possibly

[1:02:19] the formal process correct every this

[1:02:21] has been the process that has been in

[1:02:23] place since I've been here and we've

[1:02:25] done this every single year especially

[1:02:27] when it's come up I mean there are a

[1:02:29] couple of times you've had us come in

[1:02:31] and present in Council I I I'm not

[1:02:34] trying to be difficult but either you

[1:02:36] want us to do our job or you don't and

[1:02:39] if we don't do what we're supposed to do

[1:02:41] then we don't increase the revenue for

[1:02:43] the city and I I guess that's

[1:02:45] where that's the thing that I'm

[1:02:47] stumbling with is do do you want us to

[1:02:51] like our taxable value has to go up at

[1:02:53] some point if we don't do that then

[1:02:56] we continue especially when we have

[1:02:58] Pilots we continue to force the burden

[1:03:00] on the residential taxpayers and if the

[1:03:02] residential taxpayers aren't paying

[1:03:06] what you know I mean I can go on I

[1:03:09] apologize I'm not I'm not trying and I

[1:03:11] sorry if I sound defens it's just well

[1:03:14] goad I do want to point out that I think

[1:03:16] that um was it earlier this year that

[1:03:18] you did the presentation to us I think

[1:03:20] with codes correct if I remember and and

[1:03:24] it was last year I thought it was

[1:03:25] earlier this year there maybe there was

[1:03:28] another maybe because I think Naim was

[1:03:31] probably but I think it was really clear

[1:03:34] at least to me through that presentation

[1:03:37] that um because there were you know

[1:03:41] accusations about targeting um certain

[1:03:43] populations but I think that what I

[1:03:45] heard in that presentation was that

[1:03:48] you're you don't even necessarily know

[1:03:51] the who owns the property so when you're

[1:03:53] going out to do these um es if it's um

[1:03:57] you know uh not occupied but I mean it

[1:04:00] became very clear through the

[1:04:02] presentation that those that you're not

[1:04:05] targeting uh specific populations

[1:04:07] because owners come up on the that

[1:04:09] there's a lot of people that are owner

[1:04:11] occupied but also contractors that do

[1:04:13] the work we don't we don't have any idea

[1:04:15] we look at a property that has a permit

[1:04:17] and depending on the scope of work

[1:04:19] that's what we follow up on and it it

[1:04:21] doesn't it really has nothing to do with

[1:04:23] who it is that owns it and I mean I

[1:04:26] don't know how more to say that other

[1:04:28] than to show the exact report we pull

[1:04:31] from munice I mean you guys you you guys

[1:04:34] built the report for us yes and we pull

[1:04:37] a report to look at all the permits so

[1:04:39] we look at demos we look at there's

[1:04:42] certain things we don't look like we

[1:04:43] don't care about Paving you know I mean

[1:04:45] if you want to pave your driveway you

[1:04:47] want to pave whatever that doesn't you

[1:04:49] know there's certain permits that don't

[1:04:50] you put a roof on your house great

[1:04:52] everybody has to have a roof on their

[1:04:53] house it doesn't add any more value

[1:04:55] anyone

[1:04:57] else's anyone but I I I think that the

[1:05:01] re clearly is something that we're going

[1:05:03] to have to take a look at but we won't

[1:05:04] be doing this budget no no I'm sorry

[1:05:07] yeah I only brought it up because I

[1:05:08] think as as our Equalization rate goes

[1:05:11] down we need to possibly think about

[1:05:13] what that means sure so I no okay Mr M I

[1:05:18] understand like and I appreciate you

[1:05:20] asking that question I just I hope that

[1:05:22] you understand hope that the people are

[1:05:26] listening to your explanation we should

[1:05:28] detail explanation and I ask anyone who

[1:05:31] has a question with that please just

[1:05:32] come into our office and ask it's not

[1:05:35] you know I mean that's that's not what

[1:05:37] we try to do if someone feels targeted

[1:05:39] we want to make sure that we're not

[1:05:41] doing that

[1:05:44] um anyways go ahead please and and I

[1:05:46] kind of get the opposite question I get

[1:05:49] calls all the time and that I report

[1:05:52] over to code or someone about work

[1:05:53] that's being done with no permits and

[1:05:56] um you know for you know re you know

[1:05:58] revalue of the home so and you know it's

[1:06:01] Our obligation to report what people

[1:06:03] report to us so yeah but I thank you for

[1:06:07] doing your job absolutely I mean it's tough I don't it's

[1:06:11] not I understand nobody wants to pay

[1:06:14] more than you know wants to pay morees I

[1:06:17] get that but no I'm just a messenger no

[1:06:22] okay I was in this room here couple

[1:06:24] months ago full room with the mayor and

[1:06:26] with several homeowners and contractors

[1:06:28] talking about how many concern they have

[1:06:31] I know the mayor talked to you about it

[1:06:32] he did mention that me so that's I'm

[1:06:34] going to highlight it so the public hear

[1:06:35] from you what is actually happening

[1:06:37] right and to you know well I would

[1:06:39] encourage anyone who has a question or

[1:06:41] concern to come into our office that's

[1:06:43] all I mean that's all we can do is just

[1:06:44] be more transparent how we VI our

[1:06:47] process any other question

[1:06:51] for the assessment

[1:06:53] office seeing none thank you so much

[1:06:56] have a good evening we'll go into

[1:07:02] receipt and that is on page four bottom

[1:07:06] receipts a

[1:07:08] 1325 receipts budget has only increased

[1:07:12] by

[1:07:14] 2.03% I'll let Lindsay talk about our

[1:07:18] budget um well my budget really doesn't

[1:07:21] change ever

[1:07:23] much very boring

[1:07:26] um but

[1:07:28] um supplies and um equipment continues

[1:07:32] to be something that's increasing um in

[1:07:35] price as everyone else has in the last

[1:07:38] few years um our validators that we use

[1:07:41] to give customer receipts um have gone

[1:07:45] from $400 to just about $900 a piece and

[1:07:50] um we use them constantly well you know

[1:07:53] it's a constant thing so we do have to

[1:07:54] have a little bit of padding there and

[1:07:57] also as Molly stated my computer is also

[1:08:00] not compatible with um Microsoft 11 so

[1:08:03] it's something that you would have to

[1:08:05] have but otherwise there really isn't

[1:08:08] much of a change in anything um to

[1:08:15] our so can you just give us just what's

[1:08:19] new what what's on the pipeline through

[1:08:22] Department um right now what's new is

[1:08:26] um we are well working in Junction with

[1:08:28] the law Department of course we have a

[1:08:30] forclosure um list that is um started so

[1:08:34] we've been trying to um we continue to

[1:08:37] try to educate people um the order in

[1:08:40] which they should pay their taxes when

[1:08:42] they have

[1:08:43] leans um and um really trying because

[1:08:47] right now we're faced with a little

[1:08:49] longer period than we've had in the past

[1:08:52] so we're going to go into next year

[1:08:53] before the Redemption date so the 202

[1:08:56] 24s are going to turn into tax leans so

[1:08:59] by law they'll have to be paid first

[1:09:01] before the 23s and the 22s and the 21s

[1:09:04] so it's something where um it it could

[1:09:07] turn into where people might normally

[1:09:09] only have two years to pay they might

[1:09:11] end up having three or four so we've

[1:09:14] been avidly trying to reach out to

[1:09:16] anyone that's stopping in to make

[1:09:17] partial payments and we do have a lot

[1:09:21] of our tax base is expanding how is that

[1:09:25] think your work the resource that you

[1:09:27] have um well I think it's the nice thing

[1:09:30] about the past few years is that um more

[1:09:33] people have been using our website for

[1:09:36] payments um we still do get a lot of

[1:09:38] foot traffic um we do a lot of cash

[1:09:42] payments um every quarter we have people

[1:09:45] that stand in line for a long time to

[1:09:47] paying cash um and you know it is what

[1:09:51] it is so it's um we still get that um

[1:09:54] but we do have people that use the

[1:09:55] website you know quite often and um

[1:09:58] people still use the Dropbox because we

[1:10:00] have a lot of elderly people that don't

[1:10:02] want to come upstairs they want they

[1:10:04] don't want to worry about their mail

[1:10:05] getting lost and they want to get a

[1:10:07] receipt in the mail so they put it in

[1:10:09] there and um so we really made it

[1:10:13] there's really every Avenue that you

[1:10:14] could try to make a payment you can make

[1:10:16] one so yeah nice ni that's great doing

[1:10:20] much with the little you have yes go

[1:10:22] ahead please um so online there's a

[1:10:24] certain percentage you pay over your so

[1:10:27] if you use an e check so if you just use

[1:10:29] your checking account number and your

[1:10:31] routing number it's 55 cents so that's

[1:10:34] just like postage right when you use a

[1:10:37] card so we are not allowed to absorb

[1:10:40] those fees because we're municipality so

[1:10:43] the company that that runs that

[1:10:45] paymentus they receive the fee for those

[1:10:48] which is 2.64% of the amount so that can

[1:10:51] be rather steep yes um and then once we

[1:10:54] get into people having two years of

[1:10:56] leans they do have to pay with

[1:10:58] guaranteed funds so they have to pay

[1:11:01] with either a cashier's check bank check

[1:11:03] or cash um because they can't use a

[1:11:06] personal check in that situation just

[1:11:08] because of the status of where they are

[1:11:10] in their in their

[1:11:13] process we can't use a credit card for

[1:11:15] that no because credit cards are

[1:11:18] disputable um so you can and we

[1:11:21] unfortunately have had this happen um

[1:11:24] you can come in and pay it take you off

[1:11:26] the you know foreclosure list and then

[1:11:28] you know a month later you dispute the

[1:11:30] transaction so we've had to go where

[1:11:32] that is something that you can use it

[1:11:35] you know when you have one year of leans

[1:11:37] you can if you have 23s right now you

[1:11:39] could use a credit card if you wanted to

[1:11:41] but once you get two years and you're on

[1:11:43] that you know when you're on the list

[1:11:46] technically then you

[1:11:48] cannot question I know that this year

[1:11:51] there's an issue with people in the

[1:11:53] school taxes and the Pro everything not

[1:11:56] coming over um and so can you tell me

[1:11:58] what impact that had on your office and

[1:12:01] if there's any remedy if that happens

[1:12:03] against the the the um company that we contract with well the company

[1:12:09] is munice it's Tyler Technologies um we

[1:12:12] do have a contract with them that we um

[1:12:15] that's our whole Software System for um

[1:12:18] we also use micity but that's separate

[1:12:20] um munus is the real Financial system um

[1:12:24] every year we in may we received the

[1:12:26] delinquency file from the school um and

[1:12:30] we import it and generally speaking

[1:12:32] around the 20 1st of May people can

[1:12:34] start making payments on their

[1:12:36] delinquent School this year the file

[1:12:39] would not import um and I will say and

[1:12:44] Tony and and Derek are aware um since we

[1:12:48] have converted to our new version of

[1:12:50] munus we have been having a very low

[1:12:53] response time to our problems

[1:12:55] um and it's something that we probably

[1:12:58] need to address the next time we have a

[1:13:00] contract negotiation with them because

[1:13:03] um I had spoken with John guio in the

[1:13:06] past when he was here and there doesn't

[1:13:08] seem to be an accountability Factor as

[1:13:11] far as how long they have to respond to

[1:13:13] some of our critical problems um so when

[1:13:16] that happens you put in an online case

[1:13:19] and then you must try to contact the

[1:13:22] person repeatedly to get some some

[1:13:24] answer

[1:13:25] how it affected us was we weren't able

[1:13:28] to import the file until July 2nd um it

[1:13:33] didn't it impacted the taxpayers

[1:13:36] obviously because they had the

[1:13:37] inconvenience of not being able to pay

[1:13:38] it however as you all know um there was

[1:13:42] legislation passed to delay the penalty

[1:13:45] so they weren't charged anything more

[1:13:47] for not being able to pay it it was just

[1:13:49] a matter of not being able to pay it

[1:13:51] which I understand and yes it was it's a

[1:13:54] lot lot of phone calls a lot of foot

[1:13:56] traffic um to both us and the school for

[1:13:59] why it wasn't there but it was something

[1:14:01] unfortunately that um they couldn't

[1:14:08] resolve July yeah it should have been

[1:14:11] resolved by one well when we import the

[1:14:14] file okay which I get May 21st it didn't

[1:14:18] work okay so then they told me they had

[1:14:21] it fixed the first week of June so I

[1:14:24] attempted it again and it failed again

[1:14:26] so then it did take them almost a month

[1:14:29] to fix it the way that this system works

[1:14:32] is they have to send something to

[1:14:33] development and it actually runs into

[1:14:35] where they have to do a complete

[1:14:37] software fix that then it has to run

[1:14:40] into our

[1:14:42] system and as a result of the issues

[1:14:45] that I've had since we've converted um I

[1:14:49] am going to be doing I normally do my

[1:14:51] mock tax bill run in November November

[1:14:55] or early December but I'm actually doing

[1:14:57] it in October okay um because I want to

[1:15:00] make sure that we are able to get any

[1:15:03] errors corrected if we have a long time

[1:15:06] to wait when was the last time we

[1:15:08] negotiated that contract with believe it

[1:15:11] three more years

[1:15:14] oh Tyler is just a part of what happened

[1:15:17] with the

[1:15:18] whole U the virus

[1:15:21] thing is you know they lost all their

[1:15:24] people left and they're having lot of

[1:15:27] trouble finding new system people up and

[1:15:29] then you get new people then they have

[1:15:31] to warn the systems

[1:15:33] so

[1:15:36] all really set them back a b yeah and I

[1:15:40] there are a couple contacts I have there

[1:15:42] that have been there for I've been here

[1:15:43] for 19 years and some of them have been

[1:15:45] there for that long but and they will

[1:15:47] get back to me but unfortunately it's

[1:15:50] like the hierarchy of how many people

[1:15:51] are in front of me that have already

[1:15:53] reached out to them and it's it's

[1:15:55] definitely been an impact this

[1:15:59] year thank you so if I can add um I

[1:16:03] would like to see if we could review

[1:16:04] what that exit clause would look like

[1:16:06] cuz if your office is having to

[1:16:07] subsidize and take on that additional

[1:16:09] burden and there seems to be no

[1:16:11] improvements I would say unless there's

[1:16:13] a lack of other vendors out there I

[1:16:16] think there has to be an accountability

[1:16:19] Factor if you disagree yeah I mean Unice

[1:16:22] should have to respond within X number

[1:16:24] of of days because we do pay them on a

[1:16:28] regular basis quite a bit of money so um

[1:16:31] I don't I don't think it's not and they

[1:16:33] are one of the biggest providers to

[1:16:35] municipalities around um and it's not

[1:16:39] that I'm dissatisfied with M as a whole

[1:16:41] I would say no but when you have a major

[1:16:44] problem like not being able to emplo

[1:16:46] file you can't wait you know almost two

[1:16:49] months for that to be rectified it finds

[1:16:51] we find it hard to understand too is

[1:16:53] because we've done it for Less 19 years

[1:16:55] and all of a sudden it's like it's like

[1:16:57] what's different about it I've done this

[1:17:00] my sleep yeah and then it just kep

[1:17:02] failing so just you know you know don't

[1:17:05] have the power to fix

[1:17:08] it and if we have to if this is an issue

[1:17:11] and we're paying them at the same rate

[1:17:12] regardless of how they deliver service I

[1:17:15] don't know if there's an opportunity to

[1:17:16] renegotiate that and said if you don't

[1:17:18] get it done by this then you know we

[1:17:20] reduce how much we pay you by that I

[1:17:22] don't know right and I do think it needs

[1:17:24] like CU When we enter a case we can say

[1:17:26] this is a medium importance case or this

[1:17:29] is a critical case and I think there

[1:17:31] needs to be something where a critical

[1:17:33] case needs to be addressed within you

[1:17:35] know a day or two like it used to be you

[1:17:38] know whereas a medium okay I don't need

[1:17:40] this right now and that could be but it

[1:17:42] seems something needs to be worked out

[1:17:45] there because it affects thousands of

[1:17:47] people every time I mean I had 2800

[1:17:50] delinquent School tax bills that

[1:17:53] couldn't come in that's what it is

[1:17:57] so thank you any questions a lot of

[1:18:00] work get you get it done thank you we

[1:18:03] appreciate what do thank you very much

[1:18:06] even we'll move

[1:18:08] into

[1:18:10] development and that is page

[1:18:14] 50 okay

[1:18:17] so

[1:18:19] 8686

[1:18:21] a687 uh commissions and the board A7 5

[1:18:25] 20 a810 and

[1:18:28] 8020 uh the total development

[1:18:30] Administration increased by

[1:18:33] 4.6% Total Community Development

[1:18:35] increase by

[1:18:37] 16.15% uh there's no increase in the

[1:18:39] board appeals no increase in the

[1:18:42] Planning Commission and there's no

[1:18:43] increase in historical

[1:18:46] commission I just want to add biggest

[1:18:49] reason we increase is that the zoning

[1:18:51] officer was add to that uh to part of

[1:18:54] the government Administration that

[1:18:56] caused the I see okay so it was in a

[1:18:59] different department before corre so

[1:19:02] we'll see that decrease in Zod then in

[1:19:05] COD corre thank

[1:19:08] you you can just go

[1:19:11] through I your like make and then ask

[1:19:14] you to give us a brief what's new what's

[1:19:17] the pipeline in your department um as

[1:19:19] they said no real U major changes I

[1:19:23] think the one change that probably would

[1:19:25] highlight will be our part-time seasonal

[1:19:27] salaries as you can see there's an

[1:19:29] increase there of the

[1:19:30] 54,000 um we have um a part-time home

[1:19:34] specialist helping manage the federal

[1:19:37] home funds the mayor has asked um for a

[1:19:41] plan um for that this week so I will be

[1:19:44] working on that um who wants to address

[1:19:47] that in the budget

[1:19:51] line can I can I just clation on address

[1:19:55] that and watch

[1:19:57] meaning the person that is part-time

[1:20:00] having a end date or there needs to be a

[1:20:03] plan in place because they were a

[1:20:04] temporary part-time

[1:20:08] person so he he's asked for an update on

[1:20:11] where we are with with that

[1:20:15] and what is their what is their title

[1:20:18] again they they it's just a clerk their

[1:20:21] title was a clerk but they help um

[1:20:23] manage the home funding of for the

[1:20:25] Community Development Department in fact

[1:20:27] that person we we we were in because

[1:20:30] there was such a lapse at at home after

[1:20:33] uh the person had the position before

[1:20:36] this person came in and helped us tie in

[1:20:38] uh address the audits Audits and stuff

[1:20:42] like that with a consortion with Troy

[1:20:44] and County because actually she was an

[1:20:47] expert at this know who done this for

[1:20:50] her career so she really helped us out

[1:20:53] is this line 86

[1:20:55] yes 8687

[1:20:57] so so what you're saying is that that

[1:20:59] will go away yes this will probably be

[1:21:01] the last

[1:21:03] year thank you any other questions go

[1:21:07] ahead please so is that the only part

[1:21:09] there are no other part two but the

[1:21:11] other yes the other part-time person is

[1:21:13] drawing from our community development

[1:21:15] assistant

[1:21:17] line okay

[1:21:19] see so that so this is a

[1:21:23] full two two part-time people working

[1:21:27] between 10 and 15 hours a week so I just

[1:21:30] so the

[1:21:32] 47,000 five is we is compensation for

[1:21:35] one individual no as part time she she's

[1:21:38] not that's a vacant position it's vacant

[1:21:40] but that's where she's getting paid from

[1:21:42] right now she's not included in that

[1:21:44] part-time seasonal salary that is for

[1:21:46] the one person working that 20 hours so

[1:21:51] actually it's going to be a little bit

[1:21:52] less than the 47 if they're only part

[1:21:54] time correct correct but the goal um

[1:21:56] Madam president is to fill that position

[1:21:59] the goal for the Department is to gain

[1:22:01] capacity because this is full-time work

[1:22:03] it's not part-time work so the part-time

[1:22:06] people have been extremely helpful and

[1:22:08] they got us through the fire um but we

[1:22:11] need to have full time we the the job is

[1:22:13] full-time okay the goal is to increase

[1:22:16] our capacity in the department all right

[1:22:18] thank you fees for service last year we

[1:22:22] uh budgeted U 160 this here

[1:22:25] your B 100,000 So based on what we spent

[1:22:30] um down our fees for services are really

[1:22:31] our con our consultants and our arborous

[1:22:34] so 160 was a little bit above what we

[1:22:37] needed based on what we said I'm sorry

[1:22:39] what line is thate Mr that's u

[1:22:43] a page 50 right the b86 8686 oh yeah I

[1:22:48] have that highlighted also okay

[1:22:57] any go ahead please so

[1:23:00] um under your department the um lead

[1:23:03] inspector is there correct and I read

[1:23:06] the article in the paper that we got

[1:23:08] this Grant and so how that W impact her

[1:23:11] level of work uh and does does she have

[1:23:15] everything she needs to do that is you

[1:23:17] know could it will impact her it would

[1:23:20] impact her level work she's already

[1:23:22] doing the work um

[1:23:25] we I went this is something with the L

[1:23:27] inspector that was try I was trying to

[1:23:30] work last year when I came to city

[1:23:31] council that was from our predecessor to

[1:23:33] get a pay increase for her so we went I

[1:23:35] went to csca to say they said they would

[1:23:38] try to work a title with supervisor not

[1:23:42] moving her to management but with some

[1:23:43] supervisory skills because she's going

[1:23:45] to have to train other inspectors we

[1:23:47] have a a grant program coming down from

[1:23:50] the county as well for Leed for the um

[1:23:53] the rental apartments and for landlords

[1:23:56] so her role as a lead inspector will

[1:23:59] increase you have to be EPA um EPA risk

[1:24:03] assessor certified and we only have two

[1:24:05] in the city and that's including her and

[1:24:07] one in codes right now and I believe

[1:24:10] Brian said we have three that are

[1:24:12] pending if I'm right for testing to pass

[1:24:15] a test to help with that so her role her

[1:24:19] job will

[1:24:20] increase I don't see an increase in tell

[1:24:23] because csca is

[1:24:27] under so I I did submit that um as a

[1:24:31] request but by default you don't see

[1:24:34] that in this bu but I did ask that for

[1:24:36] her all right thank

[1:24:39] you and we're working with the the CCA

[1:24:42] rep to kind of address the job title cuz

[1:24:45] she's maxed out where she's at so I have

[1:24:47] gone to Steve um for that information so

[1:24:50] the ball is in

[1:24:52] csca hands

[1:24:55] thank you so this could this is

[1:24:57] definitely going to increase once we do

[1:24:59] the finish the

[1:25:04] contract we don't negotiate cont yeah

[1:25:07] then have pass it just say

[1:25:09] [Music]

[1:25:11] yes any other

[1:25:13] question um I have a question regarding

[1:25:17] the zoning office now under your um

[1:25:20] Department um over the last several

[1:25:23] months we have failed a lot of complaint

[1:25:25] in terms of turnover time from the

[1:25:27] zoning office getting people's permit

[1:25:30] back out on time I'm sure you a of that

[1:25:33] we talk about it to talk to you about it

[1:25:36] what are in place what do you have in

[1:25:38] place sorry to address these um these

[1:25:41] question so I would like to correct yall

[1:25:43] and say over the last several months it

[1:25:45] will be predated because over the last

[1:25:47] several months we've made the changes

[1:25:50] and implemented a process and if I may I

[1:25:53] will look up what the process is cuz I

[1:25:55] don't know the dates off offline but we

[1:25:57] give her six to9 business days to

[1:26:00] process those

[1:26:01] appliations it is 6 to9 business days

[1:26:05] the complaints come from internally not

[1:26:08] being able our departments meaning code

[1:26:10] and development not really communicating

[1:26:13] properly but working closely with Brian

[1:26:15] and the code staff we have been trying

[1:26:17] to foster a more collaborative work

[1:26:21] environment to address that issue so now

[1:26:23] Nora

[1:26:25] um just let me pull that up I'm sorry

[1:26:28] Mak me nervous now

[1:26:33] should news that in development now that

[1:26:36] nor is up in development she's been

[1:26:38] working with the planning department

[1:26:40] also which she's getting support from

[1:26:43] whereas previously she was not getting

[1:26:45] as much support I was just say so not

[1:26:48] only from the development department but

[1:26:50] uh from Alexander but also from the

[1:26:53] planners and stuff like that so they're

[1:26:54] all working together turn out to be a

[1:26:56] really good uh so that change has been

[1:26:59] made and change has been made the

[1:27:01] process will improved the process has

[1:27:03] improved and we're still working with

[1:27:05] our co- officers it's all about how we

[1:27:08] deliver the message to the public right

[1:27:10] if the public is coming in versus saying

[1:27:13] it's held up in development we should

[1:27:15] probably say it's still in process right

[1:27:18] she has six to n businesses if we're

[1:27:21] not we have to protect oursel inside

[1:27:24] public face and we're public servants

[1:27:25] but we still have those aren't we

[1:27:27] colleagues we have to work together so

[1:27:28] we Brian and I have worked together to

[1:27:32] kind of streamline a process like I said

[1:27:34] Foster more communication and saying to

[1:27:37] our team listen if you get something and

[1:27:39] it's held up let's let's go by what we

[1:27:41] have in place it's it's still in that 6

[1:27:43] to9 business days and then outside of

[1:27:46] that then you let us know and we'll

[1:27:47] address it but I think the public wants

[1:27:50] rapid gratification John right you put

[1:27:53] an application in

[1:27:54] 3 days later it's been a holiday we

[1:27:57] didn't had two days off they looking for

[1:27:59] it to happen right there so I will um I

[1:28:02] will try to circulate what this memo is

[1:28:06] um to city council yeah if that's okay

[1:28:08] no the reason why I B that because I

[1:28:10] mean I'm glad that changes were U put in

[1:28:13] place on the 6 to 9 day that's you know

[1:28:15] that's reasonable for turn around to get

[1:28:17] the documents review and back up because

[1:28:19] we have heard and seen people waited you

[1:28:22] know several weeks performing 20 room

[1:28:25] and she's one zoning officer too so this

[1:28:27] is why it was important to give her a

[1:28:30] time frame so she had there's 6 to 10

[1:28:32] business days after a request has been

[1:28:34] received invoice in process into

[1:28:37] municity that's for zoning compliance

[1:28:39] request for permits is 6 to 10 business

[1:28:42] days after Code Enforcement Officers

[1:28:44] assign the task to the zoning officer IM

[1:28:48] municity she we have office hours now

[1:28:51] just for walk-ins where you don't need

[1:28:52] an appointment so 9 to 10 and 3: to 4:

[1:28:56] every day the public can stop them

[1:28:57] without an appointment that doesn't stop

[1:29:00] the public from making an appointment

[1:29:02] with her so that because the zoning

[1:29:03] officer is also in the field so a lot of

[1:29:06] times people come in looking for her but

[1:29:08] she's out she's out in the

[1:29:11] field um for routed plans for large

[1:29:14] developments there's six to 10 business

[1:29:16] days after the routed plans have been

[1:29:18] given to the zoning officer and for

[1:29:20] complaints because we do get a lot of

[1:29:22] complaints we have that um they should

[1:29:24] be submitted over the C click fix or

[1:29:26] formal complaint um these forms are

[1:29:29] found in the buildings department and

[1:29:30] should be submitted to the Buildings

[1:29:32] Department for processing we put

[1:29:34] something in place for same day

[1:29:35] approvals no permits will be approved

[1:29:37] the same day regardless of the

[1:29:39] circumstances every member of the

[1:29:41] Public's application will be reviewed on

[1:29:42] a fair and consistent basis

[1:29:46] so and the last but not least is

[1:29:49] Christine handles the change in Tennesse

[1:29:50] waivers and there's a three to five

[1:29:52] business days for that this involved

[1:29:54] going out to check the properties to

[1:29:56] make sure they are in compliance with

[1:29:57] the prior site plan approval so we sent

[1:29:59] the memo out to um department heads um

[1:30:05] in the mayor's office on June

[1:30:08] 24th that's nice and you're going to

[1:30:11] share that with oun thank you appreciate

[1:30:14] that and I appreciate the changes in

[1:30:18] place open for

[1:30:20] [Music]

[1:30:21] questions um one thing that we asked for

[1:30:24] um was the vacancy list currently so

[1:30:27] right now um uh the Community

[1:30:30] Development assistant is is it's not

[1:30:33] filled it is not it is not filled but we

[1:30:36] are we have been actively looking so we

[1:30:38] have the Community Development assistant

[1:30:40] and the program monitor so one of the

[1:30:42] part-time people is right now working as

[1:30:45] the Community Development assistant

[1:30:46] helping with management of the federal

[1:30:48] funding in arpa um so she's kind of

[1:30:50] filling that role temporarily and the

[1:30:53] program mon

[1:30:54] we've been getting applications we um

[1:30:57] there were a couple of candidates that

[1:30:58] we like but they didn't get through the

[1:31:00] Civil um service piece and we have one

[1:31:03] candidate that maryan was working on

[1:31:06] prior to the transition so we're hoping

[1:31:08] to have an answer on that um as the new

[1:31:10] HR administrator gets activated but

[1:31:13] these are positions you're definitely

[1:31:14] looking to fill definitely looking to

[1:31:16] fill thank you the Community Development

[1:31:20] assistant you said is filed that's what

[1:31:21] we just talked about right is she's part

[1:31:25] time

[1:31:27] okay any other questions comment just

[1:31:30] want to mention that the capital

[1:31:32] projects development got uh is

[1:31:35] requesting three vehicles one for

[1:31:37] planning one for zoning and one

[1:31:40] for 40,000 CG is that in in the C yes

[1:31:46] that's what that 4,000 yeah so you can

[1:31:49] get three vehicles for $40,000 no like

[1:31:54] are right it's right here 114 out of

[1:31:58] that 40,000 is coming from C because one

[1:32:00] can go if one is for Community

[1:32:02] Development that is an allowable expense

[1:32:04] for CBG funding so these these say these

[1:32:08] are all electric vehicles and we just

[1:32:09] talked about the um lead inspector are

[1:32:12] any of these a vehicle that's like a

[1:32:14] truck yes so it is proposed a a Transit

[1:32:18] is what we were looking at um for it I

[1:32:21] don't it's electric car I think we have

[1:32:23] some a trans it's like a van oh okay um

[1:32:26] because right now she has a smaller car

[1:32:28] where she has to put a ladder and all of

[1:32:30] these things it the smaller car doesn't

[1:32:32] work for the job so you are looking at a

[1:32:34] vehicle that better accommodated yes

[1:32:36] we're also looking at Mavericks which is

[1:32:38] a like a small truck oh it's a truck

[1:32:42] yeah for electric small

[1:32:46] truck nice but all electric

[1:32:49] vehicles right any other question thank

[1:32:52] you see young thank you so much

[1:32:55] appreciate all you're doing why you

[1:32:57] didn't ask me what I had

[1:33:00] going told tell me what's new

[1:33:09] what's didn't hear me so tell me what's

[1:33:11] new going

[1:33:13] on so I want to I want to share with the

[1:33:16] city council that we um we launched our

[1:33:19] new software neighborly um that is to

[1:33:21] help Community Development manage all

[1:33:24] federal funding um it is going to help

[1:33:26] us be more efficient um with invoicing

[1:33:30] with processing with reporting with the

[1:33:32] quarterly reports and this will free up

[1:33:34] some of the time where we actually can

[1:33:36] because the system will be working for

[1:33:38] us um that we can find other funding

[1:33:41] sources to manage I'm so I'm I'm really

[1:33:44] excited about that I know you talk we

[1:33:47] talked a little bit about the city

[1:33:49] property so I don't know if this fill

[1:33:50] would go but I was going to say we're on

[1:33:52] target to meet our 2023 budget for City

[1:33:55] owned properties but if we're carrying

[1:33:57] over to

[1:33:59] 2.6 million to 2025 I guess I can't brag

[1:34:03] about that cuz they're all pending no

[1:34:05] you can still brag about that because

[1:34:07] you you you you you achieve it process

[1:34:10] all the paper all the necessary

[1:34:11] documentation to get it where it

[1:34:14] is lot of work inails they're pending

[1:34:17] until March 31st you got yes I want to

[1:34:21] also highlight I know I've reported to

[1:34:22] City Council on this um you know

[1:34:24] throughout the time that we are like 99%

[1:34:27] in compliance with arpa and that's

[1:34:29] invoicing quarterly

[1:34:31] reports um with all of our subrecipients

[1:34:35] we have some arpa funding that has been

[1:34:37] at a standstill but Anthony advis to get

[1:34:39] a plan so we have put out a letter to

[1:34:42] those subrecipients for and working the

[1:34:44] team is worked with them to put a

[1:34:45] spending plan together to make sure that

[1:34:47] they are accessing their funds and

[1:34:49] spending them down um in the appropriate

[1:34:52] timeline that are for allow

[1:34:54] how much is that I just want to remind

[1:34:56] everybody talking about ARA um so of

[1:34:59] that we talked about that are stand

[1:35:01] still they have till December uh 31st to have contracts or or actually have

[1:35:07] some contracts with their vendors to

[1:35:09] actually get to work started or uh

[1:35:12] projected and if they don't and they go

[1:35:16] past that time we cannot re appropriate

[1:35:19] that money we lose it so we have to

[1:35:21] start thinking about prior to December

[1:35:24] do we lose it or can we can we take it

[1:35:26] back no we can't no we lose it we we we lose the money so we talk about we

[1:35:31] got be very careful with the December

[1:35:33] 31st we don't have December

[1:35:35] 31st we have to make sure that we

[1:35:38] revisit this prior to seator for and

[1:35:40] reallocate these money back to the city

[1:35:43] right and we have one that is really in

[1:35:45] Jeopardy so our team is being very

[1:35:47] intentional to work with that how much

[1:35:49] is out there as far as those not being

[1:35:53] approp

[1:35:54] I would say just just one just one money

[1:35:58] how much 1.2 I believe is what and could

[1:36:02] be that one for a million too one yeah

[1:36:04] the 1 million one one too is Pretty

[1:36:06] Tough we have this oh yeah I

[1:36:12] seeon so this this gives us all the

[1:36:14] information that you just talked about

[1:36:16] yes yes but the department is

[1:36:19] actively we want to support um those

[1:36:22] Community or organization so we are

[1:36:25] we're doing our part to kind of just

[1:36:27] encourage them this reminding them that

[1:36:30] time is of the

[1:36:32] essence but December is right around the

[1:36:34] corner so when you sorry when you when

[1:36:38] you're going out reminding them are you

[1:36:40] getting a positive feedback from them

[1:36:41] are they working with you on your

[1:36:44] department something but I they've been

[1:36:46] given positive feedback from the start I

[1:36:48] think they're just having difficulties

[1:36:50] and and that that brings me to the next

[1:36:52] statement is capacity

[1:36:54] right it's a large amount and one of the

[1:36:56] organizations just doesn't have the

[1:36:58] resources compared to some of the other

[1:37:00] organizations to actually execute the

[1:37:02] project So the plan is there but it's getting other resources to work

[1:37:07] with

[1:37:09] our so on the same lines of arpa those

[1:37:12] recouped arpa funds were those projects

[1:37:15] that were in consideration were they

[1:37:17] notified of this new position the city's

[1:37:19] taking I I was not part of that

[1:37:22] conversation so I'm so so sorry I did

[1:37:24] not I was not able to notify because I

[1:37:27] didn't find out until I seen the

[1:37:29] proposed budget thank you go ahead I can

[1:37:32] speak to that because I got an email

[1:37:34] from one of the projects and the answer

[1:37:36] to that question is no they were not

[1:37:37] informed until they sent an email

[1:37:40] actually to ask where it was and they

[1:37:43] included myself and the mayor and Miss

[1:37:45] Carver um and I responded and said you

[1:37:47] know this is what the situation is I

[1:37:49] know was in the budget they were not

[1:37:51] aware that they're that they were being

[1:37:53] considered to have those um those phones

[1:37:57] [Music]

[1:38:01] sended I thought car they

[1:38:04] left what do you mean left I thought

[1:38:07] they they gave up their no the old group

[1:38:11] did but then we had the co-op who came

[1:38:13] and to the grp 50123 it was

[1:38:18] the car

[1:38:21] was so when okay step back was not

[1:38:28] 501c3 to my knowled they were not a

[1:38:31] 501c3 and um did you think they were to

[1:38:34] I did think that but I mean you know I I

[1:38:36] don't believe they were however the new

[1:38:38] group did have Community Fathers as part

[1:38:40] of it which is also a 501c3 if if that

[1:38:43] seems to be the sticking point so they

[1:38:45] were definitely a 501c3 we we didn't

[1:38:47] have a contract with them we had it with

[1:38:49] the other group right and the other

[1:38:50] group returned the building and then but

[1:38:52] this group was in discussions we as a

[1:38:54] council sat here and heard them and so

[1:38:56] they were W the understanding that we

[1:38:58] were working with them so you we can

[1:39:00] talk about the the contract no idea but

[1:39:03] we never and we never said otherwise so

[1:39:05] they came here discussing this with us

[1:39:07] so they understood that we were working

[1:39:08] with them so you know nobody ever said

[1:39:10] you got to sign this contract um so I I

[1:39:13] can't I don't think we could just go

[1:39:15] down that road um so I don't know what

[1:39:17] happened how it happened I just know

[1:39:19] that I read it in the newspaper um that

[1:39:21] was I read newspaper then I went looked

[1:39:23] in the budget to to confirm that what I

[1:39:26] was reading think was correct and and

[1:39:28] that was but I was under the assumption

[1:39:30] that that origal group gave it up and

[1:39:33] that it was pended we wanted to use it

[1:39:35] before we lose

[1:39:38] it questions and so I'm just going back

[1:39:40] to say okay Mar and Craig wasn't a 5013

[1:39:44] or still not a 5013 we did transfer a

[1:39:47] building to

[1:39:48] them and the other group that took over

[1:39:52] was on a 5 want prce but we we didn't

[1:39:54] transfer the build into that I we no we

[1:39:57] didn't no that's why I so the question

[1:39:59] is why did we did it for one and we

[1:40:01] didn't do it for the ud I I was on the

[1:40:03] presumption that the first group was a

[1:40:05] 501c3 well let's go out and verify that

[1:40:08] I do not believe but I will

[1:40:11] definitely however but we can't but but

[1:40:14] let's not also say I just want to make

[1:40:15] clear that we never said to the group

[1:40:17] are you a 501c3 as we had those

[1:40:19] discussions with them and they were

[1:40:21] doing the project and if I if my m

[1:40:23] resarch new correct when they presented

[1:40:24] they weren't going to go to 501c3 route

[1:40:27] um and they were saying that they were

[1:40:29] going to work to get um their formal

[1:40:32] they wer going to do the 501c there's no

[1:40:34] way there going to be a 501c3 by

[1:40:38] December this is the new group you mean

[1:40:40] when we had meeting when we had the

[1:40:41] meeting here yes the Hamilton Hill

[1:40:43] Cooper so Mr carrari how can we have a

[1:40:46] formal email letter out to this group

[1:40:49] the last group to inform them I don't

[1:40:51] know who the group is is it I know who

[1:40:53] is I know who the group is all right

[1:40:55] we'll get

[1:40:58] together I think the mayor's part of

[1:41:00] this discussion and um because he was on

[1:41:02] my email so just um just just so we not

[1:41:06] I know that he's not here tonight

[1:41:07] leaving him out of what this discussion

[1:41:09] is to he is definitely a part of that

[1:41:10] email that was coming from the

[1:41:13] cooperative and I did speak to the mayor

[1:41:14] briefly this week and he said he was

[1:41:16] going to reach out and have a

[1:41:17] conversation so he is aware I did try to

[1:41:20] follow up with him on the email that

[1:41:23] yeah I also I was not aware of that but

[1:41:25] I also heard that there was other other

[1:41:28] institutions that that

[1:41:30] were other place other companies that

[1:41:33] were interested interested in but I

[1:41:36] think the go I think the goal from where

[1:41:38] I said I thought think the goal was to

[1:41:41] have a collaborative effort between the

[1:41:44] community and another organization that

[1:41:47] has capacity to support support the

[1:41:51] Carver um and and so Circle back to your

[1:41:54] question no they were not formally

[1:41:56] informed that was that's what I'm asking

[1:41:58] for a formal notification to let them

[1:42:00] know what is going on yeah I think that

[1:42:03] should come from the main not me I'm

[1:42:06] making a statement I

[1:42:08] as

[1:42:09] yeah I just thought it was in limbo and

[1:42:12] you know it's the money that we can use

[1:42:13] it we wanted to get it used before

[1:42:15] December go ahead please um thank you

[1:42:19] Missy on this is there any any um have

[1:42:22] you gotten any uh whoever's gotten their

[1:42:24] money spent it um the way they needed to

[1:42:27] appropriate appropriate the funds have

[1:42:29] you gotten any reports from anyone is we

[1:42:32] collect reports quarterly okay so we um

[1:42:35] the only person that has there's only a

[1:42:37] couple of people that have fully

[1:42:38] expended and we're working to get close

[1:42:40] out reports for them but everybody's in

[1:42:41] compliance they spent it based on what

[1:42:43] they said they were going to spend it

[1:42:45] with their proposal can not be passed

[1:42:47] along to the council at any so you want

[1:42:49] the final report or you want the

[1:42:50] quarterly report quarterly yeah see come

[1:42:53] on that is so

[1:42:55] much she just no problem thank you thank

[1:42:59] you my friend thank you all any other

[1:43:02] questions

[1:43:06] I'm I want my time you you tell you

[1:43:11] wanted to talk about the highlights

[1:43:13] would been out of here no I just have I

[1:43:15] just wanted to highlight two more and

[1:43:18] that was that we addressed um all

[1:43:20] outstanding HUD audit findings from 2020

[1:43:24] 2021 2022 so we had three years of

[1:43:28] findings when I started a year ago that

[1:43:30] were still pending and all of those have

[1:43:32] been addressed and cleared up um with

[1:43:35] the federal government um and for the

[1:43:38] first time when I look back at our and

[1:43:41] being on the other side of being a

[1:43:42] subrecipient of the city we've always

[1:43:45] received our community development

[1:43:47] grants 6 seven months after the fiscal

[1:43:50] year has started and for the first time

[1:43:53] at least minimum um 7 years we have our

[1:43:56] contracts ready to go out into the

[1:43:59] public into the sub reian within the

[1:44:01] first 30 days of our HUD FIS schal year

[1:44:03] starting so I'm really proud of the team

[1:44:05] and the work that um the department has

[1:44:07] done with that great

[1:44:10] nice detail thank you yeah thank you um

[1:44:13] M Carver for for for the work that

[1:44:15] you've done the year and bringing us up

[1:44:17] today now did you talk about um the

[1:44:19] other and your team as well I know

[1:44:21] that's not one person it's the team but

[1:44:23] you are the team leader the other one we

[1:44:25] I read in the paper of the Department of

[1:44:26] Labor did you mention that one um you

[1:44:30] didn't do you want I don't oh where um

[1:44:35] there was there was something that you I

[1:44:36] think you mentioned it here and then it

[1:44:38] was there was an artic in the newspaper

[1:44:40] about it but I didn't see that the

[1:44:41] development team was mentioned at all

[1:44:44] are you all the pro housing all the pro

[1:44:47] housing community designation I didn't

[1:44:49] highlight that but we did we did get

[1:44:51] that so as a city we have access to

[1:44:53] discretionary funding that other

[1:44:55] municipalities may not have eventually

[1:44:58] New York state will make that mandatory

[1:45:00] I don't know if that happened for all

[1:45:01] municipalities but we were we were in

[1:45:04] the beginning where it wasn't mandatory

[1:45:06] so we um completed all of the zoning and

[1:45:10] planning and Community Development um

[1:45:12] research and gave the data to get the

[1:45:14] designation for the city so we are

[1:45:17] designated as a pro housing community

[1:45:19] highl okay and that happen watch yes yes

[1:45:23] like a lot we I mean I think I when you

[1:45:27] think of Department of development let

[1:45:29] me just be clear it's it's more than

[1:45:31] just development it's Community

[1:45:33] Development it's planning it's you're

[1:45:35] the LED program director you do sah it's

[1:45:38] the historic commission it's the bza

[1:45:41] it's the Planning Commission it's the

[1:45:43] city owned properties there's a lot um

[1:45:47] that falls under that umbrella and it's

[1:45:50] important that I just say that on the

[1:45:52] record it's not just development it is a

[1:45:54] large umbrella and we are working and

[1:45:56] making the most appropriate changes um

[1:45:59] in finding out what's most advantageous

[1:46:02] for the city in a whole with processes

[1:46:04] procedures policies we have addressed

[1:46:06] that this last year so it's it's just

[1:46:08] important for you to know that we're

[1:46:10] working upstairs I wish we would have an

[1:46:13] opportunity to eat Truffles and you know

[1:46:16] Dum Dums but um we're we're we're busy

[1:46:19] working Madam president there were two

[1:46:22] things that said um I did request um for

[1:46:26] the in the budget and I did have a

[1:46:29] conversation um with the mayor about it

[1:46:31] and he said that I should bring it

[1:46:32] before Council so ma this up to the

[1:46:35] finance direct please sorry it's all

[1:46:37] yours so the um and for the record I had

[1:46:41] the conversation with my boss and he

[1:46:43] said it is at the um city council

[1:46:45] discretion

[1:46:46] okay the uh planner one sent a formal

[1:46:50] request for a pay increase of 10% repage

[1:46:55] that would be um 86 886 100 principal

[1:46:58] plan I'm sorry

[1:47:03] 86 you yes the principal planner put a

[1:47:06] formal request in for 10% pay

[1:47:09] increase okay and myself the director of

[1:47:13] development put a request in for a 15%

[1:47:15] pay increase so principal planner how

[1:47:18] much 10% 10% requested okay

[1:47:22] [Music]

[1:47:24] and development inre

[1:47:28] 15% are there anyone

[1:47:31] else no understanding the the rest of

[1:47:34] the team they they had amounts but I

[1:47:38] think those are the two biggest that I

[1:47:39] will um bring before you

[1:47:42] today in addition to the probably 3%

[1:47:45] that's there already not in addition so

[1:47:49] be 12% or 7% in other words yes okay yes

[1:47:54] 50us three that was a good clarification

[1:47:57] Mr can you correct me if I'm wrong how

[1:47:59] would it be the council's perview to

[1:48:03] dictate the mayor's proposed budget well it's not dictating it's making

[1:48:08] changes which is beond but great saying

[1:48:10] is he can to do as the mayor what he

[1:48:13] eles to do in that's that's a good

[1:48:15] question and we can related to this over

[1:48:17] years as being in his Council here and

[1:48:19] his Finance um chair that um many times

[1:48:22] a May says you know what he is his staff

[1:48:25] he put in a salary that he thinks that

[1:48:27] is

[1:48:28] reasonable and sometimes it doesn't go

[1:48:30] well when the council tries to make

[1:48:33] changes to Staffing and salary and

[1:48:35] that's a good point we brought up there

[1:48:37] so we will have to consider

[1:48:40] these openly with within the council

[1:48:42] with an open L this year and I I did

[1:48:46] have a conversation with my boss of

[1:48:49] course I respect my report with him so I

[1:48:51] would never bring something before you

[1:48:53] that I have not discussed with him and

[1:48:55] he heard me and I asked him what um what

[1:48:59] would he suggest that I do and he said

[1:49:01] bring it before counsel so that is just

[1:49:03] what I'm doing um on this evening you

[1:49:06] know whether it is honored or not I'm

[1:49:08] doing what I feel is best advocating for

[1:49:10] myself and advocating for my team as

[1:49:13] I've just highlighted the work that has

[1:49:15] been done um thus far and not what has

[1:49:18] been done this far but even taking into

[1:49:20] consideration on where we're going cuz

[1:49:22] we're we're still walking we haven't

[1:49:24] even begun um to run and put dust behind

[1:49:27] our feet so get

[1:49:30] prepared you should applicate for your

[1:49:32] team and for yourself every

[1:49:35] time well I'm not really understanding

[1:49:37] your question I mean we have had this

[1:49:38] happen in the past as well where um

[1:49:41] staff people have been um you know the

[1:49:44] salary inrees that they requested the

[1:49:46] mayor were

[1:49:47] not put into the Bears budget and so we

[1:49:50] have had had the opportunity to then

[1:49:53] discuss those um increases in salary

[1:49:55] here as Council relatively new though it

[1:49:58] hasn't like in maybe prior to you but

[1:50:00] Rel before that that didn't really

[1:50:02] happen that's kind of a new um yes

[1:50:04] phenomenon that that that that people

[1:50:07] would I can't tell you exactly where it

[1:50:09] began but I think I remember who it

[1:50:10] began with which staff person but

[1:50:12] generally speaking um that didn't happen

[1:50:15] but there's IND individual who felt very

[1:50:18] strongly about the request that they

[1:50:21] made therefore they came to advocate for

[1:50:23] themselves so so you're aware I'm saying

[1:50:26] this according to M Alexander's account

[1:50:29] that the mayor felt so entailed to put

[1:50:32] the increase in he could have just put

[1:50:33] the increase in and then spoke to it to

[1:50:35] us so that to me is the proper way to go

[1:50:40] about it I can understand this way but I

[1:50:42] just wanted to have a clarification of

[1:50:45] we review his proposed

[1:50:48] budget we do but again because we have

[1:50:51] our department heads come in during

[1:50:53] these nights um let's move it away from

[1:50:55] personnel and salary but I mean clearly

[1:50:59] we have instances where our department

[1:51:01] heads are going to ask us uh to think

[1:51:03] about things that the mayor has already

[1:51:05] rejected I mean it's just been part of

[1:51:06] the pro at least I mean again I'm only

[1:51:07] in my second term on city council um but

[1:51:10] it certainly has been this way since

[1:51:12] I've been on city

[1:51:13] council department heads um it was

[1:51:17] presented that the mayor was in favor of

[1:51:18] this and said the correct way to go

[1:51:20] about it is to discuss this with the

[1:51:21] council oh

[1:51:23] you put in a request for the 15 and 10%

[1:51:27] he gave you what's

[1:51:28] [Music]

[1:51:30] here I went back to the mayor and said

[1:51:33] can you please reconsider my request and

[1:51:36] he said he thinks this is a sound budget

[1:51:39] and I said well what do you think that I

[1:51:40] should do he said bring it before city

[1:51:42] council so he wasn't saying he supports

[1:51:45] it he just said come talk to have a

[1:51:48] me you have something you good you

[1:51:51] finish yeah yeah that's I understand

[1:51:53] yeah yeah he didn't say he supported he

[1:51:55] said bring it before city council so I'm

[1:51:57] just following Direction yeah we got to laugh sometimes this is

[1:52:04] always when we talk about finances and

[1:52:06] when you're advocating for yourself they

[1:52:08] tough conversations to have before the

[1:52:10] body the council so thank you I respect

[1:52:13] thank you no you have all right to

[1:52:14] advocate for yourself and your

[1:52:15] department that is your duty yes because

[1:52:18] that's how you been able to streng your

[1:52:19] department and that's how you build your

[1:52:21] department

[1:52:23] any other question for Miss no thank you so much thank you so much

[1:52:27] thank you Anthony thank you D thank you

[1:52:29] C thank

[1:52:31] you we will go into utility and Street

[1:52:36] Li am I missing anything under your

[1:52:40] department I'm

[1:52:43] sorry account codes are 862 83310 8331

[1:52:49] 85182 can you just tell me the page

[1:52:51] numbers I'm sorry just so we can to it

[1:52:54] page 24 thank page 12 I think page

[1:52:59] 12 go back to start let's start on page

[1:53:02] 12 and then work down thank you the uh

[1:53:05] utilities Administration decreased by

[1:53:11] 12.46% um this huge increases du2

[1:53:14] retirements in 2024 okay sign

[1:53:18] maintenance increased by

[1:53:20] 12.28% total traffic increased by

[1:53:23] [Music]

[1:53:24] 7.60% uh the total Street lighting

[1:53:27] increased by

[1:53:29] 4.86% uh that's from 1, 690,000 to 2,

[1:53:34] 380,000 um Guan will explain the portion

[1:53:38] is portion on Friday it's a smart City

[1:53:40] portion so U Brian will adjust his

[1:53:44] portion okay thank

[1:53:46] you so let's go through one the utility

[1:53:49] admin and then we'll go to the next one

[1:53:51] because it's multiple page done so we'll

[1:53:54] head it over to Brian and just walk us

[1:53:57] through tell us um anything that you

[1:53:59] need to address we you need um you need

[1:54:02] to address before us in regards to

[1:54:04] utility

[1:54:05] Administration so that's myself uh

[1:54:08] coordinating line workers painters sign

[1:54:10] maintenance workers like to the city

[1:54:14] traffic you know whether that's making

[1:54:16] uh drivers andest are like safer so

[1:54:19] that's something that I do and then

[1:54:20] there's the ips3 which right now is um

[1:54:24] Lisa filling that position but we're

[1:54:25] looking to obviously with her being

[1:54:28] semi-retired get someone else in there

[1:54:30] to assist with in office duties whether

[1:54:33] that be Financial

[1:54:35] or

[1:54:37] general question go ahead please

[1:54:39] regarding that so you saying that LE is

[1:54:41] still coming in working one day a week

[1:54:43] yes one day a

[1:54:45] week um the other one for the principal

[1:54:47] billing CL which was a last year half

[1:54:52] part time and now just doing away with

[1:54:59] that so this question direct you see

[1:55:03] signal superintend Lang has to be do

[1:55:05] with

[1:55:08] grade the signal superintendent um

[1:55:13] salary 111 to

[1:55:16] 97 I believe the 111,000 was originally

[1:55:21] uh John

[1:55:23] um they hired Brian at a certain salary

[1:55:26] and then it's increased by 3% so the

[1:55:29] 97,000 3% of

[1:55:34] currently 3% increase so

[1:55:37] yeah I have a question go ahead please

[1:55:40] so my understanding in addition to Lisa

[1:55:42] is Mr pucho also doing some work with

[1:55:44] the city correct so where where we see

[1:55:46] that on the fees for service is where

[1:55:48] are we seeing that that won't continue

[1:55:51] into next year

[1:55:52] anticipating it will not

[1:55:56] okay that

[1:55:58] was any other question on this section

[1:56:01] uh go ahead please is 33 111200 in this

[1:56:05] section utilities traffic 3311 sorry I

[1:56:09] I'll get to that yeah yeah get just

[1:56:12] asking about page um no I don't have any

[1:56:15] more questions on that page if not we

[1:56:17] can move to

[1:56:19] um page 24

[1:56:22] 4

[1:56:23] 24 25

[1:56:27] okay oh

[1:56:29] yeah sobody just walk us through the

[1:56:32] sign maintenance and then we'll go into

[1:56:35] traffic so pain anything Crosswalk

[1:56:38] Center Line basically anything that

[1:56:40] isn't uh specialty they can do um also

[1:56:43] making signs and downtime or the day or

[1:56:47] the months that they can't be outside

[1:56:49] you know doing their typical duties uh

[1:56:52] sign maintenance supervisor leads uh

[1:56:55] whether it's the painters or the sign

[1:56:57] maintenance crew for the day and then I

[1:56:59] talk with that same ass me and

[1:57:00] supervisor and make sure that we're on

[1:57:02] the same page as far as what they're

[1:57:03] doing and using their time

[1:57:08] op please uh as we heard from the police

[1:57:11] department on number of instances about

[1:57:13] needing to have signs replaced is there

[1:57:15] like a normal turnaround time for signs

[1:57:17] or is that a backlog project so I'm glad

[1:57:20] you said that I actually have a report

[1:57:22] from the police department that we're

[1:57:23] going through they gave me their signs

[1:57:25] that they feel need to be replaced we're

[1:57:26] doing our own um inhouse uh observation

[1:57:31] of what signs so I actually have to

[1:57:34] follow up with my sign supervisor will

[1:57:36] tomorrow make sure that we're on the

[1:57:38] same page as far

[1:57:40] as thank you for being on top of that we

[1:57:42] need that yeah any other question

[1:57:45] regarding sign maintainance seeing now

[1:57:48] we'll move into the next page and uity

[1:57:51] sorry I'm sorry go ahead what is

[1:57:55] the oh okay nope I changed my mind I

[1:57:58] don't have that question

[1:57:59] anymore

[1:58:02] traffic utility traffics traffic traffic

[1:58:06] so bline workers assisting with we have

[1:58:08] our Smart City initiative uring any

[1:58:10] conduit that we have that we own is uh

[1:58:13] Incorporated properly into the system

[1:58:15] and protected and marked properly um

[1:58:18] tend the street lights signals um

[1:58:21] anything that we

[1:58:22] really line worker crew

[1:58:26] willine and with the supervisor line

[1:58:29] worker uh similar to the supervising

[1:58:32] sign maintenance worker uh getting with

[1:58:35] me and making sure that day to day is um

[1:58:38] optimally used and touching b on certain

[1:58:41] things that may arise and uh making sure

[1:58:44] we handle those things properly

[1:58:49] quickly there's a on the traffic there's

[1:58:51] a bump in on you leave Ferrari can you

[1:58:55] help with

[1:58:59] that EXC one of the supervisors going to

[1:59:02] be reti next year we want to prepare for

[1:59:05] okay got

[1:59:07] you go ahead please I would say these

[1:59:10] are conversations that continu from last

[1:59:11] year with continuing to fund positions

[1:59:13] with ar Club funding are can you speak

[1:59:16] to just the need to this position not

[1:59:18] that it's addressed this year but for

[1:59:20] next year when the ARA dollars are going

[1:59:21] to be

[1:59:23] nonexistent is this a position you could

[1:59:25] reabsorb in a different manner or is

[1:59:27] this a position that can be without

[1:59:29] better words just eliminated so no I'm

[1:59:32] always looking for different

[1:59:33] opportunities to find funding EV charger

[1:59:36] funding is one to highlight in

[1:59:37] particular that I'm actually looking to

[1:59:40] get a hand over from tdon um probably

[1:59:42] later this month but that I would look

[1:59:46] to see as being a possible replacement

[1:59:49] if you will probably not going to be the

[1:59:50] same effect but um already have my eyes

[1:59:53] set on that thank

[1:59:56] you any other questions on this if I I

[2:00:02] do on traffic equipment um aa3311

[2:00:07] $220,000 um I wasn't sure um exactly

[2:00:11] what was under traffic equipment so I do

[2:00:13] need to know that but then my followup

[2:00:16] is depending on what that answer is um

[2:00:18] will this um be enough money if we are

[2:00:22] um making any changes um on any of our

[2:00:25] traffic caling um measures um will we

[2:00:29] need to have more money there I don't

[2:00:31] think with the traffic calming measure

[2:00:33] that that would um be impacted by this

[2:00:35] so what what I intend to use that money

[2:00:38] for is for controllers uh that go within

[2:00:40] our traffic cabinets I can get about

[2:00:41] four with that amount um so to answer

[2:00:45] your question no that that wouldn't

[2:00:46] really affect it but that's it's very

[2:00:49] useful for if we have a new intersection

[2:00:52] want to revamp our equipment it will

[2:00:53] list a short list of a couple that

[2:00:56] probably seek some revamping so that'll

[2:00:58] be what that Mone will most likely get

[2:01:00] out okay great thank you very

[2:01:03] much any other questions go ahead so can

[2:01:06] I just go I'm sorry can I go back to um

[2:01:09] just I'm just I want to be clear about

[2:01:11] under under a

[2:01:13] 3310 signment for there three painters

[2:01:16] I'm sorry this on page 2 there's three

[2:01:20] painters Cor one's vacant right what's

[2:01:23] that is there one vacant position well

[2:01:26] it's a parttime so it's like two

[2:01:28] painters and then we have a third that's

[2:01:31] U I'm sorry he's a the sign

[2:01:34] name page here it's page 24 what what's

[2:01:38] it number a it is um 83310 yep and then

[2:01:43] 110 so yes that would

[2:01:46] be the two painters and then the one

[2:01:49] that we have a guy that's parttime that

[2:01:51] can do multitude of things that we kind

[2:01:53] of use in that that third position and

[2:01:56] what what the percentage of

[2:01:59] incre is what's the percent increase for

[2:02:02] those

[2:02:04] salers they have their own Union so it's

[2:02:07] we didn't approve their uh contract

[2:02:09] excuse me did we not approve their um

[2:02:11] their contract yes so this will be

[2:02:14] contractual increase yeah

[2:02:17] okay yes all right

[2:02:22] any other

[2:02:23] questions if not we'll move to

[2:02:26] [Music]

[2:02:29] page I want to mention Capital yeah I'm

[2:02:32] yeah page

[2:02:36] [Music]

[2:02:41] 39 just the yeah oh

[2:02:45] boy uh Power gas light power gas and the

[2:02:50] Smart City National gri payment there um

[2:02:53] 402 ban will be able to touch on more I

[2:02:56] believe that's more to do with

[2:02:58] software and then repairs kind of is

[2:03:01] kind of speaks for itself street light

[2:03:03] Parts what we may

[2:03:06] need so we'll hear about that on

[2:03:08] Friday uh 402 will be to expand on

[2:03:14] more B one will be able to

[2:03:18] expend okay am I missing any another

[2:03:22] department I got just uh vehicle No Cap

[2:03:27] can I just ask this I know that one

[2:03:29] expand administrative expense so we have

[2:03:32] no numbers in here it's

[2:03:35] just

[2:03:37] isay has to do with Smart City expens so software Mr Ferrari can we have a

[2:03:42] breakdown because it's software and it's

[2:03:45] smart city

[2:03:46] and Friday it break down yeah he has it

[2:03:51] so I just said it's administrative so

[2:03:53] isn't that individuals as opposed to you

[2:03:55] because we're talking about um parts and things like that but this is

[2:03:59] Administrative so these people that

[2:04:01] we're talking about this is where we've

[2:04:03] been spending the uh what's that called

[2:04:06] the internet

[2:04:09] money as administ expens

[2:04:15] forof uh in relation to the Smart City

[2:04:19] stuff so I just going to ask back the

[2:04:22] same question can can you have one email

[2:04:25] that to us prior to Friday so we have an idea breakdown that down we

[2:04:31] don't come here and we just have a load

[2:04:32] of

[2:04:35] question I know yeah you should have a

[2:04:38] breakdown because 710 we have to arrive

[2:04:41] at

[2:04:46] numbers um any other question if not

[2:04:48] we'll go into

[2:04:50] Capital um Capal Ono Capital you got one

[2:04:55] utility and traffic signal replacement

[2:05:00] 250,000 thank you servers that's for the

[2:05:04] also so the utility truck one and the

[2:05:07] traffic signal

[2:05:09] replacement those are the only two items

[2:05:11] for um right

[2:05:18] [Music]

[2:05:23] any

[2:05:27] questions just want to give us an

[2:05:29] overview like what's happening what's

[2:05:31] new Department things we need to know

[2:05:33] abolutely

[2:05:35] I'll allude to the first thing actually

[2:05:38] first change I made in the city at

[2:05:40] Wendell Union in rugby did a change most

[2:05:43] of you probably are aware uh did a

[2:05:45] change signage over um it's going to be

[2:05:48] stried here shortly some feedback from

[2:05:51] the residents to uh improve sight

[2:05:54] distance as well so just making sure

[2:05:56] that um drivers coming from the KN

[2:05:59] Street side of wend uh you have enough

[2:06:01] time to see someone speeding by which

[2:06:03] we're trying to mitigate but uh does

[2:06:06] happen so we're working with that uh

[2:06:08] Corridor there uh the Smart City

[2:06:10] initiatives is another that's just

[2:06:12] ongoing um we actually are installing a

[2:06:15] myo Vision system tomorrow tomorrow

[2:06:17] morning uh over at eie Union and eie and

[2:06:20] Liberty um that would

[2:06:23] be the expanse of our uh Mion system is

[2:06:27] going to be it's going to be added a

[2:06:29] couple more there and then this will

[2:06:31] give me that much more data to then um

[2:06:36] either whether I'm doing track of coming

[2:06:38] or trying to provide data to the council

[2:06:41] uh to get back or I want to work with

[2:06:42] the mayor on something an initiative uh

[2:06:45] that in tandem with um where I got my

[2:06:48] speed data which is ubiquia I don't I'm

[2:06:51] sure anyone knows kind of that company

[2:06:54] in charge of the smart nodes throughout

[2:06:55] the city so with myo vision and ubiquia

[2:06:59] working together and me identifying

[2:07:02] where I need to kind of focus and and

[2:07:04] spend my time and correlate data that

[2:07:06] would be um beneficial for the path

[2:07:09] forward and whatever case you see to

[2:07:11] tackle we are expanding our equipment to

[2:07:14] the point where that tax is

[2:07:17] not so sight to me to be able to have

[2:07:20] enough under my belt to be able to uh

[2:07:24] that and take it

[2:07:28] AP go ahead

[2:07:30] please that a turn signal

[2:07:34] on excuse

[2:07:36] meior there we go I was focused on the

[2:07:38] my vision but yes we're getting a left

[2:07:40] turn signal as well on to you from Erie all right under the um uh

[2:07:47] under the understanding that it'll be as

[2:07:48] far as pedestrians everyone will have a

[2:07:51] walk or no walk so there won't be any so

[2:07:54] people will be able to cross

[2:07:56] appropriately correct so my more signal

[2:08:00] nobody

[2:08:01] walk mod is more for drivers and it kind

[2:08:04] of f sense um when a driver is queued up

[2:08:08] and then that will allow it can

[2:08:10] incorporate with the uh pedestrian sign

[2:08:13] yes but uh thank you that was not more

[2:08:18] time don't be missing anything we need

[2:08:21] could he everything all the good

[2:08:23] things um I'm working with the son um to

[2:08:27] in the different neighborhoods there to

[2:08:29] improve pedestrian safety I already

[2:08:32] started on Upper Union Street moving on

[2:08:34] to bana and Boose Hill so um just really

[2:08:38] trying to hear as many as many people as

[2:08:42] I can out without you know getting lost

[2:08:44] in the noise so you know it's easy on

[2:08:47] see click fix with a lot of the

[2:08:49] different voices you hear there but um

[2:08:51] just trying to make sure that I don't I

[2:08:52] don't bury the lead so they going a

[2:08:55] change so I just would like to add one

[2:08:57] thing about if we're talking about P

[2:08:59] stre safety and I asked for this several

[2:09:01] years ago when they actually built the

[2:09:03] new library well some old new but the BN

[2:09:05] Branch library on State Street they also

[2:09:08] built us a family do um the crosswalks

[2:09:11] are quite a ways away and I see people

[2:09:13] on a regular basis Crossing like they

[2:09:15] just go across the street and then go

[2:09:17] straight back um and I know that we have

[2:09:19] crosswalks in other places in the city

[2:09:21] that you it's a pedestrian crossb people

[2:09:23] have to stop Etc so I recommend and and

[2:09:26] I would certainly advocate for that

[2:09:28] because there's a lot of elderly people

[2:09:29] there there's a lot of pedestrian

[2:09:31] traffic in that neighborhood and people

[2:09:33] are crossing with their children so um

[2:09:35] it was you know so we're talking about

[2:09:37] pedestrian

[2:09:40] safety is that haulk street Mar hul

[2:09:45] yes CDTA are also uh revamping going

[2:09:49] down State Street um the traffic signals

[2:09:52] and pedestrian signals allowing for

[2:09:54] better bus travel um and we're going to

[2:09:57] have in addition to our our sign so

[2:10:01] vamping all around uh we just had a

[2:10:04] meeting today and Brian's you know

[2:10:07] introduced them to CDTA in context there

[2:10:09] that's great the State Street is uh

[2:10:12] cta's number one travel Corridor it is

[2:10:15] their number one line which is called

[2:10:17] the red line and the CDTA is working

[2:10:19] with the city we had all Department meeting you had police fire

[2:10:23] ogs everyone today with the CDTA and the

[2:10:26] CTA is doing the looking at the entire

[2:10:29] Corridor so they're going to be making

[2:10:31] some signal improvements that Brian just

[2:10:32] mentioned and then almost all the

[2:10:34] signalized intersections are going to be

[2:10:36] doing ramps and crosswalks so what we

[2:10:39] will do is make sure that the ramps and

[2:10:42] crosswalks that you were talking about

[2:10:43] in that area try to get folded in to

[2:10:45] their project because their Project's

[2:10:47] being paid with uh Federal a money

[2:10:50] through a separate the city doesn't have

[2:10:52] to so it's a it's a really boom to the

[2:10:54] city Bri you want to say what they're

[2:10:56] upgrading their signals to the program

[2:10:58] what's that they're upgrading all their

[2:11:00] main signals to this program correct y

[2:11:02] so we're going to be able to get

[2:11:05] information and data that we don't have

[2:11:06] and it's going to be paid for by the

[2:11:09] transit authority but yeah I know we be

[2:11:11] a Coke about that we will put it on the

[2:11:13] list because they're doing more than

[2:11:15] even we thought they were doing because

[2:11:17] I thought they were only focused on

[2:11:19] signalized intersections but actually

[2:11:21] looking at almost all of the

[2:11:23] intersections as it goes up the great

[2:11:26] thank

[2:11:28] you any other

[2:11:31] question again we're not missing

[2:11:33] anything those are all good things that

[2:11:34] happening yes that's everything thank

[2:11:38] you so much thank you for all what

[2:11:39] you're

[2:11:40] doing thank you all have a good

[2:11:44] even we will go into Cotes are you

[2:11:48] ready you want to give your time up to

[2:11:51] someone

[2:11:56] [Music]

[2:12:01] yes so the post Department

[2:12:05] 8664

[2:12:06] tion increased by

[2:12:08] 3.0% thank

[2:12:11] you to the zoning officer going back to

[2:12:15] the dev

[2:12:18] dep so Fran just walk us uh through

[2:12:21] anything that will be on this the

[2:12:24] admin changes anything you need to

[2:12:26] address with us and then we'll go ask

[2:12:27] you to question and then we'll ask you

[2:12:29] go into tell us what's happening in your

[2:12:31] department yeah Staffing uh you have

[2:12:34] three vacant positions for uh code

[2:12:37] enforcement officers that we are looking

[2:12:41] fill you know we want to be fully

[2:12:43] staffed so we can accomplish our goals

[2:12:46] there in the F in our department um we

[2:12:50] also have we're eliminating we're

[2:12:53] proposing to eliminate a u the clerical

[2:12:57] Aid

[2:12:58] position which is the most entry level

[2:13:01] of um administrative staff and uh

[2:13:05] picking up one ips3

[2:13:08] position so uh yeah other than that

[2:13:11] we're fully staffed those four positions

[2:13:14] are you changes that are going

[2:13:16] on um Staffing that's where we're at

[2:13:24] go ahead please sorry so um so you're so

[2:13:27] the position that so these are both

[2:13:29] filled positions at this point in time

[2:13:31] I'm sorry these positions are both

[2:13:33] currently both

[2:13:35] filled the

[2:13:37] uh the a the aid position is filled uhuh

[2:13:41] um we're going to we're going to

[2:13:42] eliminate that position and we're going

[2:13:45] to pick up we're proposing to pick up an

[2:13:47] ips3 position in place of that which

[2:13:49] gives you two ips3 are there current is

[2:13:52] there currently one ips3 there is yes

[2:13:55] so

[2:13:57] what is this like a tested position and

[2:14:00] how does that impact the employee in the

[2:14:01] position it's competitive um I'm going

[2:14:04] to I'm going to recommend that we

[2:14:08] um put our clerical Aid into that ips3

[2:14:12] appoint we're going to appoint her to

[2:14:14] that until the test comes up that that's

[2:14:18] I that's where I'm leaning right now

[2:14:21] um

[2:14:22] so there's no current list then right

[2:14:24] now excuse me there is no current I

[2:14:28] expect that list to be depleted by the

[2:14:30] time it comes around to to that in 20 by the time uh it comes around to a

[2:14:36] point to that position I I don't think

[2:14:38] there will be a list from what I seen

[2:14:41] there's currently an ips4 little

[2:14:43] correction on Roberta is still with the

[2:14:46] city ips4 we put in an

[2:14:49] ips3 uh to better retain administrative

[2:14:53] staff it seemed like when we were at at

[2:14:55] the lower clerical positions we're

[2:14:57] having a higher turnover in Code

[2:14:59] Enforcement so to uh retain better admin

[2:15:04] staff instead of retraining uh new staff

[2:15:07] that's the reason we're putting an ips3

[2:15:09] in if the list is out now well we do and

[2:15:14] not a huge correction correction on

[2:15:16] correction um we do we do have an ips3

[2:15:20] filled as we speak right now so she's

[2:15:22] out on maternity leave but she will be

[2:15:24] back next week so that's that's

[2:15:26] Christina yeah

[2:15:29] so there is

[2:15:33] aent

[2:15:36] weeks they're they're being released to

[2:15:38] the Departments now uh top three at a

[2:15:42] time I

[2:15:43] believe we're currently going through a

[2:15:45] couple of those people on that list are

[2:15:49] currently employed with the city

[2:15:53] so so there's a list there is a list

[2:15:57] we're clear about that and the

[2:15:59] individual that we're talking about

[2:16:01] that's clerical Aid is not on that list

[2:16:04] so that person could conceivably someone

[2:16:06] else could conceivably say I want this

[2:16:08] job and then that person is then out of

[2:16:09] the job am I correct in

[2:16:12] that yes you're correct um yeah you're

[2:16:15] correct but I these these changes so I'm

[2:16:18] new here so correct me if I'm wrong but

[2:16:21] these changes are going to happen in

[2:16:22] 2025

[2:16:24] correct as long as you're accepted and

[2:16:27] we move forward with them so uh from

[2:16:29] what I understand um there's a few ips3

[2:16:34] positions being filled throughout the

[2:16:36] city M there is and um so hopefully yeah

[2:16:41] so uh you know I think this I'm pretty

[2:16:45] sure I'm pretty confident that there

[2:16:47] won't be a list anymore it'll be

[2:16:49] depleted if there is a list have to

[2:16:51] follow service

[2:16:52] law that's essentially my

[2:16:54] question understood I I think the point

[2:16:57] he's making is we do have somebody in

[2:16:59] the the clerical Aid position who is a

[2:17:01] very good staff that if she fits the

[2:17:04] bill when it comes around there's an

[2:17:07] opportunity to fill that position he'd

[2:17:09] like to put her in that position

[2:17:10] absolutely so of course I understand

[2:17:12] that we need to H off the list if there

[2:17:15] is of course um so let me rephrase so if

[2:17:20] there is a list at the time when it

[2:17:22] comes time to fill that position of

[2:17:24] course I'll hire off the list and yes it

[2:17:26] will that means this person would have

[2:17:28] been current city employee would then

[2:17:30] not be a city employee anymore because

[2:17:32] you would have to or yeah You' have

[2:17:34] they'd have to be like oh because you've

[2:17:35] gotten rid of their position and they

[2:17:37] not on the

[2:17:40] list okay I just wanted to be clear

[2:17:42] that's that that's a clear

[2:17:45] possibility

[2:17:47] understood I don't think we would put

[2:17:49] anybody in the position of potentially

[2:17:52] losing their job if there was a list we

[2:17:54] wouldn't hire that person and and

[2:17:57] transfer to that he me there was a list

[2:17:59] so no no there is a list that's correct

[2:18:02] right but most of the jobs would be I

[2:18:05] think he would his his point was he that

[2:18:08] we have a really great admin in in the

[2:18:11] staff he's putting his hopes out there

[2:18:14] to have that person in that position if

[2:18:16] it is

[2:18:17] available following Civil Service law

[2:18:20] right and if it's not available if it's

[2:18:22] not available it's not

[2:18:26] available option have come back to coun

[2:18:29] make make that job

[2:18:31] into that's

[2:18:34] right just want to be clear that that's

[2:18:36] a possibility understood it's I've

[2:18:38] understood that possibility all along

[2:18:40] and I support what we're proposing

[2:18:43] here because sometimes we make those

[2:18:45] changes if not necessarily to our

[2:18:46] advantage so the so tell me the

[2:18:48] difference of the duties between the

[2:18:49] clinical a and IPS the ne why you feel

[2:18:52] it's necessary to um to that person that

[2:18:56] position yeah so we' got some

[2:18:58] discussions about this and I might lean

[2:19:00] on Chris a little bit but um just the entry level duties of the clerical

[2:19:07] Aid

[2:19:08] position um I don't believe they fit our

[2:19:12] department we need some uh more uh more

[2:19:17] skilled duties out of that position

[2:19:21] um you know answering the phones just

[2:19:23] not cutting it and it's not much Beyond

[2:19:27] answering the phones for that claric Aid

[2:19:29] position um so we want somebody that can

[2:19:32] have a little more

[2:19:35] um yeah the

[2:19:37] job you're looking for it it does thank

[2:19:40] you thanks yeah so with the municity and

[2:19:44] software systems that a lot of the data

[2:19:47] entry is electronic so entry to those

[2:19:50] systems

[2:19:51] uh you know and the qualification a

[2:19:53] person would be at that IPS level could

[2:19:55] be at an IPS 2 but I feel that the ips3

[2:19:58] is a better fit for the city

[2:20:03] agree so but you but you still but you

[2:20:06] still say that if there's an opening you

[2:20:08] would appoint that person until it

[2:20:09] provisionally is that what you're

[2:20:11] saying if there's an opening in the list

[2:20:13] is already depleted Etc correct yeah and

[2:20:16] I I think it I think it totally makes

[2:20:19] sense the way okay uh being aware of

[2:20:23] what is what the list looks

[2:20:26] like uh I think my explanation of that

[2:20:30] fits perfectly um and knowing what's

[2:20:33] going on in the city uh and how many

[2:20:36] ips3 positions are needing to be filled

[2:20:40] um I I I think it's pretty accurate it's

[2:20:43] always good to have in City uh somewhere

[2:20:47] for somebody to move up and Achieve you

[2:20:49] know and I guess three you know they

[2:20:51] start as clar FL they they feel a good

[2:20:54] fit they've been here quite a while uh

[2:20:56] the ips3 you know is is a more of a

[2:20:59] promotional fit for for a person do have

[2:21:02] an ips4 in your department um you know

[2:21:05] and that could grow in the future

[2:21:11] too any other question this all ran so

[2:21:16] just kind of walk us through what's

[2:21:18] happening in your department since you

[2:21:19] took what's

[2:21:21] new what's uh what we need to hear or

[2:21:23] what we tell us so things are going good

[2:21:26] in the department um we are working

[2:21:31] on we're working on developing our

[2:21:33] structure our our leadership structure

[2:21:36] so on a management level and we recently

[2:21:39] filled the supervisor position and uh so

[2:21:43] we're developing that hierarchy or that

[2:21:46] uh leaders there leadership roles and

[2:21:49] we're defining our our our positions and

[2:21:52] uh so that's work in progress and it's

[2:21:54] going well uh we're jelling well as a

[2:21:57] team um things are going good we were

[2:22:00] short staff uh on a on a scary level uh

[2:22:05] being new and seeing that um it was it

[2:22:08] was was a little scary for me but we

[2:22:10] we've come back up a little bit um EVs

[2:22:13] and flows we're going through and um

[2:22:15] things are going well there um Staffing

[2:22:18] is better I still want to fill the

[2:22:20] vacant positions and it's a priority for

[2:22:23] me so we can be more thorough in

[2:22:26] our inspections our follow-ups we're not

[2:22:29] rushing through things we are um you

[2:22:32] know capturing the revenue following up

[2:22:35] properly on violations and um seeing

[2:22:39] things do properly so um you know being

[2:22:42] well staffed all supports my goals there

[2:22:47] um so you know that being said um you

[2:22:51] know developing our structure and um

[2:22:54] developing consistency in the department

[2:22:57] um you know constant yeah constant work

[2:23:00] um uh in staff meetings to reiterate um

[2:23:04] you know policies and procedures and um

[2:23:08] you know so working on that consistency

[2:23:12] so you know being brand new in this

[2:23:13] position it's say um it's it's it's

[2:23:17] development and learning internally for

[2:23:20] myself and my team and U there's been a level of of acceptance that I've seen

[2:23:26] recently that is beautiful um you know

[2:23:28] there's I think everything is natural

[2:23:30] that I've experienced so far here you

[2:23:32] know at first I I felt some resistance

[2:23:35] our our our Department's very Dynamic so

[2:23:38] all the stuff I'm speaking of um it is

[2:23:41] you know is fitting so um you know when

[2:23:44] I say it's Dynamic it's dynamic in what

[2:23:46] we do and it's Dynamic with

[2:23:49] personalities um there's so um you know

[2:23:53] some of the things that I've experienced

[2:23:55] are are wonderful and um you know some

[2:23:58] resistance early on but it's developed

[2:24:00] into acceptance and uh some really um

[2:24:03] good um you know working together as a

[2:24:07] team and it's developing well and U you

[2:24:09] know that's what's going on in the

[2:24:11] department um I have goals and visions

[2:24:14] that are um just very preliminary and uh

[2:24:19] you know in the infancy stage but um

[2:24:23] being worked out being thought about and

[2:24:26] um you know so I I look forward to uh

[2:24:30] growing with the department and growing

[2:24:32] in this position and um I'm happy in the

[2:24:35] position and I I I I I feel I'm doing a

[2:24:38] decent job there's a lot to learn um

[2:24:42] Deputy Commissioner told me it was going

[2:24:43] to be two years before I'm in this

[2:24:45] position very well and I said I said I

[2:24:47] don't think so I think I'm going to

[2:24:49] shorten that but you know I I think you

[2:24:51] might been spot on it might be two years

[2:24:53] but I'm still looking to uh know this

[2:24:56] position inside and now uh quicker than

[2:24:59] that you know that's what's going on in

[2:25:01] the department it's exciting it's

[2:25:03] Dynamic there's a lot going on uh you

[2:25:05] know we we heard Alexandria talk about

[2:25:08] the uh the Dynamics of her department

[2:25:12] and and and the big umbrella that it's

[2:25:14] on Earth and it's very similar in code

[2:25:16] enforcement code enforcement envelopes a

[2:25:20] um a number of departments and uh you

[2:25:24] know there's a lot to handle there I

[2:25:27] look forward to uh tackling

[2:25:30] it it well yeah you know I'm going to

[2:25:34] ask you this question because I ask um

[2:25:36] Miss Caro when you took over you made um

[2:25:39] several changes in terms of the policy

[2:25:42] that was not in um in complies and you

[2:25:45] had to undo them because there were so

[2:25:47] much concerns can you address those uh

[2:25:51] where are we today in terms of what

[2:25:53] happened several months ago in terms of

[2:25:54] the problem that we were having when

[2:25:56] there were several meetings with the

[2:25:57] mayor in terms of addressing is you had

[2:25:59] to you had to walk back some of them

[2:26:02] where are we today it at so uh let's be

[2:26:05] clear um I put one policy in place that

[2:26:08] wasn't there before me um it's still in

[2:26:10] place um and it's going to remain in

[2:26:13] place it's a great policy um it did it

[2:26:16] did um

[2:26:18] break it did break uh um I I broke

[2:26:24] something sometimes you got to break

[2:26:26] something to fix it it was broken

[2:26:28] accidentally it was something I was

[2:26:29] unaware of so my policy I put into place

[2:26:32] which was a pre-approval process so um a

[2:26:36] pre-approval process a formal policy

[2:26:39] that I put in place the only one I'd

[2:26:41] like to be clear on that um and this is

[2:26:44] where the officers do their um review

[2:26:48] and they do their um

[2:26:50] they do their work on an application

[2:26:53] before it turns into a permit and then

[2:26:56] they bring it to me and we go over it

[2:26:58] one onone and uh before it gets moved

[2:27:01] along to the permitting process so

[2:27:04] before a formal approval goes into place

[2:27:06] and a permit is issued we have a

[2:27:08] one-on-one and U about you know and the

[2:27:12] projects are they vary great and you

[2:27:15] know we could have Windows and

[2:27:17] Doors we can have a major addition

[2:27:19] outside and everything in between um so

[2:27:22] you know these conversations can be a

[2:27:24] two minute productive conversation about

[2:27:26] a job and they could be more of an

[2:27:29] in-depth 10-minute meeting and um it's

[2:27:31] just going developing consistency making

[2:27:35] sure their job is done thoroughly uh

[2:27:37] making sure the review process is done

[2:27:40] thoroughly making sure um plans that

[2:27:44] being uh plans that are needed

[2:27:47] internally plot plans and uh

[2:27:51] you know that go to other departments or

[2:27:53] whether they be blueprints that relate

[2:27:55] directly to the project making sure that

[2:27:58] is uh

[2:28:00] there's um the necessary level is coming

[2:28:04] in so for instance if they hand John

[2:28:06] plans or if stamp plans are required um

[2:28:10] you know

[2:28:11] because uh to be quite honest with you

[2:28:14] there uh is was there was a level of

[2:28:18] incomp there's still a level of incomp

[2:28:20] competency and maybe it's not maybe it's

[2:28:22] a poor choice of words but um there's

[2:28:24] some training that need to be done and

[2:28:27] um you know this was a training tool it

[2:28:30] it's it's still it's out of my hands U

[2:28:32] it's in my supervisor's hands it's

[2:28:35] pre-approval process that is spelled out

[2:28:37] um it's it's it's a wonderful process it

[2:28:40] is developing um uh consistency and um

[2:28:46] that's the only process that's the only

[2:28:48] official policy uh that doesn't have to

[2:28:50] do with attendance or uh anything like

[2:28:54] that anything that has to do with the

[2:28:55] building department is the only policy

[2:28:56] that I put into place and I haven't

[2:28:58] backed I haven't walked it back I won't

[2:29:00] walk it back um

[2:29:03] until when I do walk it back um it it'll

[2:29:07] be only because we have a great level of

[2:29:12] consistency among our officers and it

[2:29:14] will still be in place for any new hires

[2:29:16] that we have until they're up to speed

[2:29:18] so that's can

[2:29:20] okay can you address the terms of the U

[2:29:23] the stamp drawing in terms of what's in

[2:29:26] our code versus what you are asking for

[2:29:28] when you took over I think um Chris can

[2:29:31] help you with this too because he okay I

[2:29:32] don't need any help well maybe I do yeah

[2:29:42] [Music]

[2:29:47] you it's just a summary I would just say

[2:29:50] that any policies or procedures that was

[2:29:53] put into place was put in for the

[2:29:55] protection of the

[2:29:56] city um City departments uh and and uh

[2:30:01] you know with development engineering

[2:30:04] and code enforcement with the uh lack of

[2:30:09] experience that our code enforcement

[2:30:10] department has uh we don't want to have

[2:30:13] any erors so I think having oversight at

[2:30:17] a higher level was needed uh to to

[2:30:21] protect this and the officers for that

[2:30:23] matter they carry a a high level of

[2:30:27] liability so so I just want to so what

[2:30:30] are we doing currently in terms of um

[2:30:33] the stem drawing are we require stem

[2:30:35] drawing for a minor repair on a front

[2:30:37] porch Back Porch or are we going to the

[2:30:39] city core where it says require stamp

[2:30:41] drawing for $20,000 plus so we we follow

[2:30:45] the state regulations and the rules that

[2:30:47] are applied there um so any project that

[2:30:51] is U over is it $25,000 20,000

[2:30:56] $20,000 or is a state mandated yeah it

[2:30:59] is State

[2:31:01] mandated and that's nothing that we put

[2:31:03] in place uh currently for uh the CI it's

[2:31:07] just uh following the rules that are

[2:31:09] applied to us um so we we do require

[2:31:14] that and that's just uh to uh satisfy

[2:31:17] the needs of the state so let me recap

[2:31:19] so so any any work that's cost a work

[2:31:22] over

[2:31:24] $225,000 20,000 requires that drawing

[2:31:27] anything below that does not require is

[2:31:29] time

[2:31:31] drawing well um if it involves

[2:31:34] structural Integrity okay okay that is

[2:31:39] at the Judgment of the authority so and

[2:31:45] I I with the level of experience that I

[2:31:49] have that I ring um I I feel um I I I

[2:31:54] have a

[2:31:56] um a perfect

[2:32:00] um the point I'm trying to get at is do

[2:32:03] we need to revise City CH to put that in

[2:32:06] because it doesn't spell out it says

[2:32:08] anything over 20 $20,000 should we

[2:32:10] revisit that and kind of address it and

[2:32:14] broaden the scope in terms of if is

[2:32:16] structural yes you require so what the code allows us to do is

[2:32:21] anything more stringent than what the

[2:32:23] state requires but anything less

[2:32:25] stringent would would not be

[2:32:29] accepted okay let me just go on come

[2:32:32] back please oh so can I'd like to

[2:32:35] suggest this because it sounds like this

[2:32:36] really needs to be more in-depth

[2:32:38] conversation so we like Mr M and I get

[2:32:41] bring them in at a committee meeting and

[2:32:43] really go over all of the stuff because

[2:32:44] it sounds like a lot um and because I

[2:32:48] have some questions about the one one

[2:32:50] but I'm not going to delve into that

[2:32:51] because it sounds to me inservice

[2:32:53] training would be the route but that's a

[2:32:54] different day for different conversation

[2:32:56] but I do want to ask about you said that

[2:32:58] you have three Code enfor Enforcement

[2:33:01] Officers vacancies and I see them on

[2:33:04] here under the Aral line yes there's uh

[2:33:08] 12 and you have nine you have 12 for 20

[2:33:11] 25 and you have nine u currently working

[2:33:14] correct yes yeah so these these that

[2:33:18] these proposed fills for 2025 out of

[2:33:20] arpa funds that two out out of two so

[2:33:23] two of them so once the arpa money goes

[2:33:25] away what happens to those positions and

[2:33:27] then also the same question for the code

[2:33:29] enforcement

[2:33:33] supervisor I yeah no I I I need some help on that

[2:33:38] topic very U that's a it's a budgetary

[2:33:43] thing need historically prior to um

[2:33:50] having arpa funds the supervisor was in

[2:33:52] there I think we've worked uh very hard

[2:33:55] to get the positions that uh code

[2:33:57] enforcement needs in there they

[2:34:00] currently funded through barpa I would

[2:34:03] hate to see us go backwards on uh losing

[2:34:06] code enforcement positions after all the

[2:34:08] work that and I appreciate all the the hard work of the council to to give

[2:34:13] us those position so I I believe they're

[2:34:15] funded for that but um in the future

[2:34:19] we're going to have to find a way to

[2:34:20] either fund that or lose those positions

[2:34:23] I just want to be clear that it is in

[2:34:25] there for arpa and arpa's going to go

[2:34:26] away and so what are we going to do then

[2:34:29] that's not a conversation for me that

[2:34:30] ends that starts when it goes away it's

[2:34:33] a conversation that starts now and I

[2:34:35] think this is a conversation we had um

[2:34:38] with with uh Mr M with uh you know

[2:34:41] raising the fees and and meeting with uh the Council on uh looking at the

[2:34:46] building department fees and how to be

[2:34:48] sustainable and the level that where

[2:34:50] you're currently

[2:34:52] staff go ahead please sorry

[2:34:55] I um I think this is a large discussion

[2:34:58] anyway because anything that's blue

[2:35:00] lined my understanding is that anything

[2:35:01] that's blue lined in this budget is arer

[2:35:03] funded

[2:35:05] exactly right so it's not just uh these

[2:35:08] guys in this department but a large

[2:35:10] discussion in terms of like I want to

[2:35:12] know in their Department do yeah we're

[2:35:15] going to

[2:35:18] beg he got a swing sounds

[2:35:22] like No And um I think that's that's the

[2:35:24] reason why we started last year budget

[2:35:26] into this year to kind of look at the

[2:35:28] fees and we are at that point looking at

[2:35:29] fees I'm sorry I missed it I had person

[2:35:32] here but um I'm going to follow make

[2:35:35] sure that we uh move forward with that

[2:35:36] and get public hearing and address it

[2:35:39] and if there's any tweak that we need to

[2:35:40] do we'll tweak and move forward it's a step in the right direction to

[2:35:44] bring in some additional revenue and

[2:35:46] we'll address these um these position as

[2:35:50] we go forward in the

[2:35:52] budget any other

[2:35:56] question I have one

[2:35:58] more since you know talking about permit

[2:36:01] um can you just elaborate and I know

[2:36:03] Chris and I work on this in terms and

[2:36:05] the council's very supportive of this

[2:36:07] the uh permit fee waiver period I know

[2:36:10] you're not a big fan of it but something

[2:36:11] that the council wanted the May wanted

[2:36:14] many many years ago and the reason why

[2:36:16] we did it is because we going out in the

[2:36:18] community the neighborhood association

[2:36:20] they wanted us what are we giv back to

[2:36:21] the community we want to revitalize our

[2:36:23] neighborhood our property what is the

[2:36:26] city giv back so we came up with this

[2:36:27] idea many many years ago and he says

[2:36:30] okay let's get back something so we wait

[2:36:32] to perit for the last 3 months and we

[2:36:35] had some good work with Chris and his

[2:36:38] team back in time and we achieved 27

[2:36:41] $30,000 within that given period and you

[2:36:44] know yes it's a l to the city in terms

[2:36:46] of Revenue but it's a gain to our need

[2:36:49] what

[2:36:50] so this year I am kind of disappointed

[2:36:53] that we only did

[2:36:55] $133,000 because of perit was taken 6

[2:36:57] weeks and four weeks to get out and

[2:36:59] people were so frustrated and we had a

[2:37:02] conversation with me and back and forth

[2:37:04] going forward because we intend to keep

[2:37:06] this program I would like to see that

[2:37:08] you kind of put something in place next

[2:37:10] year to kind of like work with the

[2:37:12] counil work with our neighborhood to

[2:37:13] kind of like deliver this program to

[2:37:15] help Revitalize and increase property

[2:37:18] value that was our main go this year but

[2:37:21] to see that it was not implemented

[2:37:22] properly this year you know me

[2:37:25] personally I'm disappointed because

[2:37:26] that's something that we work on many

[2:37:27] years yeah well I help you understand

[2:37:29] how new I was and um you know stuff

[2:37:32] coming at me through a fire hose and um

[2:37:34] so that I think when we first met and

[2:37:37] discussed that um it was maybe June 6th

[2:37:41] and I was unaware I was unaware that it

[2:37:44] was even going on um so um it it it came

[2:37:49] quick

[2:37:50] um as a lot has since I've been new this

[2:37:54] position I'll be ready for it next year

[2:37:56] um you know every step of the way is a

[2:37:58] learning process for me and um I'm

[2:38:01] taking it all in I think I'm fitting the

[2:38:03] role nicely and um I'm on board um I I

[2:38:07] didn't point that one bit um I I

[2:38:10] expressed My Views early on and I I you

[2:38:14] know not everything's going to make

[2:38:16] sense when I'm brand new and um so um

[2:38:19] I'm on board I'm on board with that

[2:38:21] process and um you know the uh I know

[2:38:26] you talked about the permits the

[2:38:28] anything that was submitted in that time

[2:38:31] period we were still honoring

[2:38:33] a so I don't know if the uh report

[2:38:36] reflected all of that but it possibly

[2:38:39] was a little higher than what we

[2:38:41] provided to you in the report I I will

[2:38:43] have to look for a report with you Ma

[2:38:45] see if any chart Falls and we'll have to

[2:38:47] address it sure because we talked about

[2:38:49] in previous year when there were some

[2:38:50] missteps that we had to issue refunds

[2:38:53] because if we're given waiver period And

[2:38:55] if we didn't apply the waiver then we

[2:38:58] will have to the right thing to do is to

[2:39:00] refund the person who pulled for you so

[2:39:03] we'll work down the road on that and

[2:39:04] address those concern and I will bring

[2:39:06] it to

[2:39:08] C any other question is there anything

[2:39:10] else that you need to

[2:39:12] address I just say on that point um you

[2:39:15] know one thing I've noticed is is just

[2:39:17] an invite is needed from councel to the

[2:39:20] department head uh when these things are

[2:39:22] happening U just to get him I think

[2:39:25] prim's really new here um you know not

[2:39:29] excuse for making mistakes but um at the

[2:39:32] end it was made but um having him

[2:39:34] involved and giving the feedback um you

[2:39:36] know for things that I saw in my time as

[2:39:39] building inspector that um such as uh

[2:39:43] roofing permits are usually you know uh

[2:39:45] contractors are out there 6 eight you

[2:39:48] know a year they're booking them in

[2:39:50] advance they're charging the people for

[2:39:52] the fees so they're not the people we

[2:39:55] want to have the the deduction are not

[2:39:58] really receiving it it's the people that

[2:39:59] are doing the work anyways so roofers

[2:40:02] are out there that's their time of year

[2:40:05] so I think there's just some things to

[2:40:07] think about um the way we we we go about

[2:40:11] um issuing those waivers I think there's

[2:40:13] some great things I've seen you know the

[2:40:16] uh the fences and the exterior uh

[2:40:18] Improvement

[2:40:19] uh the

[2:40:21] porches it's great work out there it is

[2:40:24] and we did talk about that making sure

[2:40:25] that the home only is pulling the

[2:40:26] apartment rather than the contractor so

[2:40:28] we going to address that we go next year

[2:40:29] and I'm glad you brought it up in the

[2:40:31] last several weeks that we

[2:40:34] met any other

[2:40:37] questions seeing none thank you so

[2:40:42] much thanks we will go into gol our gol

[2:40:48] do you want to wait we take

[2:40:51] yeah you're not doing this to

[2:40:54] [Music]

[2:40:55] me I'll be real

[2:40:58] [Music]

[2:41:01] quick we're play

[2:41:05] through thisy serious see now I know

[2:41:08] what that

[2:41:11] means all right so all right so just

[2:41:14] brief brief

[2:41:16] over minute very quick sou CR 7180 CR

[2:41:22] 7185 um special recreation facility

[2:41:25] increased by

[2:41:26] 17.19%

[2:41:28] um and there is no increase in the total

[2:41:31] B pro

[2:41:32] [Music]

[2:41:36] expenses yes sir um I think uh

[2:41:40] commissioner Ferrari also stated that to

[2:41:43] the summary that u f fund budget uh only

[2:41:47] increased by 2.29

[2:41:49] % from the adopted 24 to the proposed

[2:41:53] 2025 budget only

[2:41:59] [Music]

[2:42:02] 3,665 that's it okay mat it's all yours

[2:42:05] and you walk us through anything that

[2:42:07] you need to know and then give us you

[2:42:08] know what's happening after the C SCH

[2:42:12] yeah um definitely the best year we've

[2:42:15] ever enjoyed there this year but you

[2:42:17] know the weather is going be incredible

[2:42:19] compared to last year I

[2:42:21] mean last year was a completely

[2:42:23] different story we were talking about

[2:42:26] rain I think all sudden and done we had

[2:42:28] about 45 rain outs yep in some capacity

[2:42:32] and this year I think we've had about

[2:42:34] three um so we're miles ahead of any

[2:42:38] year that we've ever had up there the

[2:42:40] new irrigation system has been installed

[2:42:42] uh some other things that need to be

[2:42:45] completed but the Bare Bones of it all

[2:42:48] is going to installed and the uh course

[2:42:51] is definitely reaping the benefits of it

[2:42:53] it's the best I've been playing golf in

[2:42:55] there a long time I've never seen the

[2:42:57] course in the condition that it's in

[2:42:59] right now it's just amazing and the

[2:43:01] feedback that we're getting from players

[2:43:03] is as as suchan you played there few

[2:43:08] times you seen it

[2:43:12] just yeah I'm

[2:43:15] just so yeah they have to answer any

[2:43:18] questions that you may have so you talk

[2:43:20] about the golf course the maintenance

[2:43:22] and the work that we did through arpo

[2:43:24] and all that is completed what about the

[2:43:25] golf

[2:43:27] cart pchas some new golf cars you want

[2:43:29] to talk yeah this is the second year of

[2:43:31] pleas yeah how is that going great yeah

[2:43:35] they're uh lium battery CS um they're

[2:43:39] just they're better no question they're

[2:43:41] quieter lighter um you can operate one

[2:43:47] golf cart I Believe on the 54 Vol Char

[2:43:51] you go three rounds on one charge for the lithium battery but they just

[2:43:56] they they're faster they're smoother

[2:43:59] safer yeah I mean everything about them

[2:44:00] is better and uh the feedback we get on

[2:44:03] those has been very

[2:44:06] positive go ahead please um in terms of

[2:44:09] the irrigation system M the it looks

[2:44:13] like we still haven't we just haven't

[2:44:15] outlaid all of that money yet is it is

[2:44:17] it just that there's grow

[2:44:19] still pending in terms of the offer

[2:44:22] funding but we will be using that

[2:44:23] funding we all of we spend that plus

[2:44:26] some yes okay so our money is gone okay

[2:44:30] just wanted to clarify that so the so

[2:44:33] just just to let you know so what we've

[2:44:35] been doing is uh I really think that you

[2:44:37] know it has cost of money and thank you

[2:44:39] for the art funding which was key to

[2:44:40] every um we are really working on

[2:44:44] hardening the golf course and making it

[2:44:47] just really a top facil fac both not

[2:44:50] only not only physically but financially

[2:44:52] and structurally so now that we have the

[2:44:54] new irrigation system we have we are you

[2:44:57] know Cutting Edge we have the system

[2:44:59] that we need um we put in the new water

[2:45:01] line that was part of the aror project

[2:45:03] as well the new water line now is

[2:45:05] providing water to our maintenance

[2:45:08] facility um just to you know go on the

[2:45:10] record our previous superintendent Mike

[2:45:12] cesne was an angel he was a terrific

[2:45:15] person and he put up with a lot he put

[2:45:17] up with porta potties and insufficient

[2:45:19] facilities and the manual irrigation

[2:45:22] system and I will never speak poorly of

[2:45:23] Mike um the new group that we have is

[2:45:26] extremely professional we're paying for

[2:45:29] that professionalism but they are a Next

[2:45:33] Level type of ir na company and because

[2:45:36] of that we are trying to raise all of

[2:45:38] our facilities our infrastructure and

[2:45:40] our game to match um you know Matt was

[2:45:43] the first step when we really wanted to

[2:45:45] change from New Era and having mat there

[2:45:47] really change the

[2:45:49] face of the golf course because Matt is

[2:45:51] the face of the golf course um but this

[2:45:54] is really changing and we're really

[2:45:55] working on changing the bones of the

[2:45:57] golf course the water line we have

[2:45:58] three-phase power now to our maintenance

[2:46:01] facility we have relocated our Pump

[2:46:03] Station from behind the home on Console

[2:46:06] Road to um the maintenance facility

[2:46:09] we've eliminated a garage that was about

[2:46:11] to fall down we're hardening our new

[2:46:13] garage uh with offices break room we

[2:46:16] actually have a bathroom now with water

[2:46:19] we are no longer reliant on a Porton um

[2:46:22] we have a heated space I mean we have

[2:46:24] really made strides to make the course

[2:46:28] um just a more professional environment

[2:46:30] it is really I mean Matt what were they

[2:46:32] call immun now I mean IM mun is conc

[2:46:35] National excellent excellent we we

[2:46:38] really have changed the perception there

[2:46:40] it's taken a long time but it is it is

[2:46:42] coming around um you know we can get

[2:46:46] into the capital part of it but we we

[2:46:48] have other things that like to do um

[2:46:50] with it like you know talking about

[2:46:51] around the clubhouse regards to the

[2:46:53] patio um we don't have any outdoor

[2:46:55] seating we see that as a big hindrance

[2:46:57] to really turning the page because you

[2:46:59] just can't sit out there and view the

[2:47:01] golf course as it is um you know we uh

[2:47:04] as part of the irrigation system we have

[2:47:07] uh we added some extra heads in our area

[2:47:08] we have a s Farm started we didn't have

[2:47:10] a s Farm before so that we can now have

[2:47:13] native grasses if we need to do any kind

[2:47:15] of repairs on the greens we are going to

[2:47:18] be had use our own now oh that's yeah so

[2:47:21] they basically we had three practice

[2:47:23] putting greens at the facility and we

[2:47:26] eliminated one of them cuz we didn't

[2:47:28] need three so we just took the smaller

[2:47:31] one it was located right next to the

[2:47:33] first te and they just taken that s and

[2:47:35] transported it to an area closer to the

[2:47:38] maintenance facility like Chris said so

[2:47:40] that s firm will be used there and uh

[2:47:43] there is an irrigation line there to

[2:47:44] help uh keep it treated and just it's

[2:47:48] just going to be better for them

[2:47:50] definitely uh something every course

[2:47:52] should have that we never did before so

[2:47:55] that's definitely another positive for

[2:47:58] sure and it was absolutely no cost to do

[2:48:01] that it was just labor that we know that

[2:48:05] we're already pay for as it is and we

[2:48:07] will be bringing uh an addition to the

[2:48:09] three- face power which all we're

[2:48:11] waiting on is an inspection so we'll be

[2:48:13] very close to turning that on in the

[2:48:14] next coming days we're putting a

[2:48:16] spectrum cable uh to the clubhouse

[2:48:19] because the new irrigation system will

[2:48:21] be connected to the cloud it'll be able

[2:48:23] to be used on a phone device so that we

[2:48:27] can do that but we really because of

[2:48:28] it's location we really want to have it

[2:48:30] hardwired not uh any kind of a mobile

[2:48:32] device so we're working with a spectrum

[2:48:34] on that something pretty cool too that

[2:48:36] you guys will like um one of the

[2:48:39] features of the new irrigation system it

[2:48:41] has lightning detection built into it um

[2:48:45] each each head basically has a computer

[2:48:48] chip beded embedded into it and so it

[2:48:50] could detect lightning and within a 5

[2:48:53] mile radius so what they did is they put

[2:48:55] these posts with big giant horns all

[2:48:59] around the golf course in the furthest

[2:49:01] point so anything within that radius

[2:49:04] it'll detect it shoot an alarm off and

[2:49:06] alert golers which makes it easier for

[2:49:09] us because it's it's very hard to

[2:49:11] determine whether storms are going to

[2:49:12] hit or not and sometimes you don't know

[2:49:15] until they're right on top of you until

[2:49:17] it's too late so this will be

[2:49:19] good it'll warm the golfers Lightning's

[2:49:23] in the area you might want to come in

[2:49:24] wait till it safely passes and then

[2:49:26] we'll send them out but it's it's pretty

[2:49:27] neat to have that I don't know if any go

[2:49:30] course around that

[2:49:32] does so the the other thing I would draw

[2:49:34] your attention to just because it's

[2:49:36] Unique I guess it's going to be um we

[2:49:39] talking about here you talk about it the

[2:49:41] last line advertising golf advertisement

[2:49:44] so you know we have other than raising

[2:49:47] rates um which we may propose as the

[2:49:50] improvements come we usually come and

[2:49:51] raise rates a dollar here or there we do

[2:49:53] that before the season and we try to

[2:49:55] continually make sure that we're

[2:49:56] competitive we don't propose that until

[2:49:58] we see what our competitors and are are

[2:50:00] doing for the coming year because we

[2:50:02] like to be you know competitive but we

[2:50:04] don't not ever want to be top we are

[2:50:06] meeting course we understand that um but

[2:50:09] you want to talk about who we've signed

[2:50:11] up for our advertising the goal with

[2:50:12] that yes it's one company uh uh the name

[2:50:16] of the business is called obad and so

[2:50:19] basically what they do is they do all

[2:50:20] the work for you they'll go out and get

[2:50:22] the advertising for you um we can sell

[2:50:27] advertising on the GPS screens uh for

[2:50:30] all the T boxes and just various areas

[2:50:33] that we're looking to get that and

[2:50:36] they'll go out and they will actually do

[2:50:37] all the leg work for us which is pretty

[2:50:40] nice because it's not an easy thing to

[2:50:43] run the golf course and try to find

[2:50:45] advertising at the same time so it would

[2:50:47] be nice to have that and uh I don't even

[2:50:50] think their cost was very high no it's a

[2:50:53] percentage of what it is we get to

[2:50:55] dictate um how many ads uh you know if

[2:50:58] you've ever been immune and you've

[2:50:59] looked up our scorecard um one of the

[2:51:01] things that I made sure is and this is

[2:51:02] not a knock on other courses but certain

[2:51:05] courses have scorecards that look very

[2:51:07] similar to the diner

[2:51:09] menu they're very to busy very many ads

[2:51:13] and that is fine and I will never

[2:51:15] begrudge someone for making Revenue but

[2:51:17] we have a very nice card we do ourselves

[2:51:21] with two prime sponsors on that card but

[2:51:23] I mean one of the things that we have

[2:51:25] been and the mayor has asked us to do

[2:51:27] but it's just such a challenge is the

[2:51:30] majority of courses that run GPS the GPS

[2:51:34] usually should operate at a net zero

[2:51:36] that GPS should be used to advertise

[2:51:40] every ble can be geofence so that when

[2:51:41] you come to a green when you come to a

[2:51:43] location it tells you what you're should

[2:51:45] be doing and Matt and I do not have the

[2:51:49] background or the time to actually

[2:51:52] procure you know what would could be

[2:51:54] anywhere from you hope minimum 18 one

[2:51:57] for whole but really you're hoping for

[2:51:59] 36 you're hoping for a t box in the

[2:52:01] green t box in the green and that that

[2:52:03] screen turns over um and that's what

[2:52:06] we're really hoping that they would get

[2:52:08] involved in is helping us Market that

[2:52:10] and bring some Revenue so we we put a

[2:52:12] modest amount here but we're really

[2:52:14] looking at you know what what we can do

[2:52:18] uh when this company comes in because it

[2:52:19] is one of the only areas left that we

[2:52:23] have to try to increase

[2:52:26] Revenue

[2:52:27] nice go ahead please uh I know the

[2:52:30] police department was successful in

[2:52:32] partnering with their CEO program and

[2:52:34] having their local uh school car

[2:52:38] designed by a high school student which

[2:52:40] I thought was an amazing component any

[2:52:41] thought and partnering with some of our

[2:52:43] local universities to have either a

[2:52:45] Capstone class they can kind of partner

[2:52:47] and provide that marketing assistance

[2:52:49] where it buys in that whole V concy

[2:52:52] mentality just a thought I wasn't being

[2:52:56] close to that get a little more educated

[2:52:58] on it for

[2:53:03] sure um again great course many many

[2:53:07] improvements over the years I just got

[2:53:10] somewhere and I don't remember they were

[2:53:11] electric carts and they were advertising

[2:53:13] every time we pulled up to to somewhere

[2:53:16] um didn't bother me at all get out and

[2:53:19] hit the ball but um as far as in those

[2:53:22] uh porns um you know in years past you

[2:53:26] know I'm out wherever and somebody one

[2:53:28] of your one of the attendants is driving

[2:53:31] in a carart you know you know calling everybody in yeah so when you

[2:53:35] can't get in um I you know I I I I asked

[2:53:39] about this before you thought maybe our

[2:53:41] Carpenters could do it I think it's very

[2:53:42] important for safety reasons to have a

[2:53:44] couple sheds to bring back the shelters

[2:53:47] shelter shelter we used to have Shel

[2:53:48] shelters and we had to take them down

[2:53:50] you think bring them back I mean I think

[2:53:52] it's extremely we had a far course might

[2:53:56] not be a bad idea to have something like

[2:53:58] that said sometimes you can't get in

[2:54:01] there were a couple place for stuck out

[2:54:03] there a few weeks ago Matt had to go out

[2:54:05] and get them and bring them in um it was

[2:54:08] extremely dangerous as for the um the

[2:54:12] design of the shelter would be

[2:54:14] imperative it would really um we would

[2:54:17] really have to focus on how to make a

[2:54:19] covered area that is also very

[2:54:21] transparent and visible um because the

[2:54:25] old shelters were more like a shed and

[2:54:29] they could be Hangouts I mean the golf

[2:54:31] course as it is and already you know

[2:54:34] seen that we do have nor parent and

[2:54:36] child nearby um but that's not the

[2:54:38] outreaches of the course I know where

[2:54:40] you're thinking we can look into it you

[2:54:42] are right it is an many that it has on

[2:54:45] several courses and we do not have them

[2:54:46] anymore I remember them when they were

[2:54:49] there I can tell you right where they

[2:54:50] were but yeah that but that just go

[2:54:53] right to especially when you're walking

[2:54:55] you hear that Five Mile thing coming up

[2:54:57] you know you're looking where to go MH

[2:54:59] you know when

[2:55:00] you're okay hopping a ride with somebody

[2:55:02] on a cart they don't have room for your

[2:55:04] clubs and your push car and uh if you

[2:55:07] notice I wish I had the picture on me

[2:55:09] but our Carpenter uh it was a Steve

[2:55:12] built a beautiful new staircase on a

[2:55:16] whole was it 11 12 and

[2:55:30] uh and it was in need of repair so they

[2:55:33] repl up all right so the capital before

[2:55:36] you gois you mentioned a potential free

[2:55:41] did you did you a that on the CR 2025 J

[2:55:46] or is that what our revenues are based

[2:55:48] off of no increase because you have not

[2:55:51] approved any increase so this is this is

[2:55:54] based off of if you go into next year as

[2:55:56] it as is so what do you we adopted the

[2:56:00] adopted 2024 Revenue was 550,000 y this

[2:56:04] year you are proposed 600,000 so there's

[2:56:08] a 50,000 increase there yeah yeah

[2:56:12] and uh as you see in 2023 we actually

[2:56:15] hit almost hit 600,000 and this year

[2:56:17] we're going to probably hit I don't

[2:56:20] we're going to be well over

[2:56:22] 600 so I mean I mean if we're talking

[2:56:26] Revenue lines right now Matt what's your

[2:56:27] projection we were talking about it I

[2:56:29] mean be a little conservative but it's a

[2:56:31] big number this year yeah I mean we're

[2:56:33] going to be over 1.6

[2:56:36] million okay in Revenue fees yeah

[2:56:39] Revenue oh over

[2:56:42] overall theine no no whe we determines how good it is we

[2:56:48] had a great year well yeah I mean I

[2:56:51] can't say for sure next summer is going

[2:56:52] to be like this one obviously I mean I

[2:56:54] would have to think it's

[2:56:57] not PS you won't have to cancel right if

[2:57:00] there's cut pths you know I I also just

[2:57:03] want

[2:57:05] to we talk about that Capital

[2:57:10] practice I see right here so capital

[2:57:13] projects uh I don't know what you're

[2:57:16] looking at I'll tell you what

[2:57:22] atal second

[2:57:24] [Music]

[2:57:33] page so I just want to make sure that

[2:57:36] our so so right now what we're looking

[2:57:40] at is a spreader it's a very

[2:57:43] simple piece of Machinery that attaches

[2:57:45] to the back we use it for fertilizer

[2:57:47] spreading we're looking at a core

[2:57:49] sweeper a core sweeper is kind of exact

[2:57:52] what it sounds like if you've ever been

[2:57:53] on the golf course after we air rated

[2:57:55] there these little core called them

[2:57:56] plugs uh this machine is a specialized

[2:57:59] machine that picks them up uh a chemical

[2:58:01] mixer which is almost like a giant thing

[2:58:03] that you see in high school uh chemistry

[2:58:05] class just so that we can mix some of

[2:58:07] our fertilizers together uh greens mower

[2:58:11] um the greens mower actually I got a

[2:58:12] quote on it I was thinking of a fairway

[2:58:15] mower so I will be adjusting that cost

[2:58:17] in the budget a greens mower is

[2:58:20] $50,000 fairway mower

[2:58:23] is150 um the clubhouse patio um that is

[2:58:27] I have a rendering I did not bring it

[2:58:29] but um we are looking at doing a simple

[2:58:32] uh paper patio outside and doing some

[2:58:34] cart workk to try to make an outdoor

[2:58:36] space and then uh a greens roller we

[2:58:39] bought a greens roller 8 years ago a

[2:58:41] greens roller really adds to the um

[2:58:45] Quality and then um we're looking to buy

[2:58:48] our first uh lithium ion utility cart um

[2:58:52] so we've had good luck with our lithium

[2:58:53] ion carts I was on the course for an

[2:58:56] event and they have the utility card

[2:58:58] that they do the trash and some of the

[2:58:59] pick up with it's gas it idles you hear

[2:59:02] it everybody can hear it so we thought

[2:59:04] that maybe moving to you know we were

[2:59:06] trying to go electric with all of our

[2:59:07] equipment so moving to this part giving

[2:59:09] it a try uh it'll be quiet and Silent as

[2:59:12] it runs around while people are playing

[2:59:13] gol I think it would be a nice asset so

[2:59:16] the new Total just so you're where um

[2:59:19] with all the cost updated is

[2:59:25] 29757 297

[2:59:28] MH 500 297 297 500 okay thanks so and

[2:59:34] that is paid for out of Reserve reserves

[2:59:37] that is not a bonded item so you know

[2:59:39] you'll see time to time if I need

[2:59:40] equipment because usually the golf

[2:59:42] course pays for out reserves I'll come

[2:59:43] and ask the council permission to add a

[2:59:45] piece of equipment but this is our ass

[2:59:48] for the year

[2:59:51] so go ahead please so if if we do put in

[2:59:54] a uh uh patio would the fee for the I

[2:59:59] saw the $5,000 something in there for

[3:00:01] the clubhouse would that go up or would

[3:00:03] it be so so just just yeah so we're on

[3:00:07] the same page of this so this year is

[3:00:09] the last year of the current tenants uh

[3:00:12] agreement so what I asked to do is the

[3:00:14] reason that I have the renderings is I'm

[3:00:17] trying to put a little bit more meet on

[3:00:18] the bone for people to come in bid um

[3:00:20] because if you look at the revenue line

[3:00:22] one Revenue another Revenue I can't

[3:00:23] increase what I would love to is the

[3:00:25] concessions right if you look at the

[3:00:27] budget right we're a $1.6 million

[3:00:30] operation and the concession pays us

[3:00:32] $35,000 a year so you know I mean the

[3:00:34] concession is literally just there to

[3:00:37] serve people it really does no um direct

[3:00:41] Financial impact it is a complimentary

[3:00:44] function of the golf course we're not

[3:00:45] making money really off of that but we

[3:00:48] are because we wouldn't have leagues and

[3:00:50] tournaments that we want but we we have

[3:00:52] to compliment but I just feel like so

[3:00:54] what I did is I met with Matt we met

[3:00:56] with our architect we had a nice

[3:00:57] rendering proposed that we could afford

[3:00:59] to do and I put it in the RFP package to

[3:01:03] say that the city is looking to build

[3:01:05] this thing because I don't think I think

[3:01:08] it's the first question that would come

[3:01:09] up with someone that would be reasonably

[3:01:10] looking at it is that I'm on a golf

[3:01:12] course and you have no outdoor space and

[3:01:15] I mean that's what I will get if you go

[3:01:17] to Orchard Creek we go to Eagle CEST we

[3:01:18] go to anywhere outdoor space Manhattan

[3:01:21] huge outdoor space and uh so we we

[3:01:25] needed that so that's why did the

[3:01:27] rendering put it in and that's what

[3:01:29] we're hoping and we're hoping once again

[3:01:30] is to answer your question that's why we

[3:01:32] put it higher we're hoping that somebody

[3:01:34] looks at it and says okay I can make

[3:01:35] some more money maybe have some more

[3:01:37] people pay a little bit more thank

[3:01:41] you I I support that because I think

[3:01:43] that there's just huge potential for you

[3:01:46] know different kinds of events that many

[3:01:48] of us probably attend at other at other

[3:01:51] courses where there's a baby shower or a

[3:01:52] wedding shower or something like that so

[3:01:55] I think the improvements to the patio in

[3:01:57] combination with you know the RFP for

[3:02:00] the for the vendor is you know hopefully

[3:02:02] going to generate more

[3:02:05] revenue goe on gol Le grounds there was

[3:02:08] a high of 254 in 2022 then it really

[3:02:12] dipped and now it's 230 and 2.5 can you

[3:02:14] explain that is that weather related

[3:02:18] ground

[3:02:19] cr2025 m is it yeah from 2023 yeah yeah

[3:02:25] so last year that were uh that was there

[3:02:27] were so many rain dates so we had to

[3:02:31] credit back a lot of of the leagues so

[3:02:36] with this year

[3:02:37] being a much better year we're not going

[3:02:40] to have that issue next

[3:02:41] year so we're going to see a significant

[3:02:44] increase in that but yeah a lot of the

[3:02:46] leagues I mean I think um Tuesday night League specifically did

[3:02:51] not play for the entire month of

[3:02:54] July they had I think six rain dates in

[3:02:58] total that they just couldn't play with

[3:03:00] the course were unplayable and that

[3:03:03] happened on a multiple evenings so we

[3:03:05] just got hit pretty hard in terms of

[3:03:09] that I just have one about the budget um

[3:03:13] in terms of the you said the green mower

[3:03:15] um Mr long it it's going to ,000 as

[3:03:18] opposed to

[3:03:19] 150,000 I was in my head I had it as a

[3:03:23] fairway mower a fairway mower is

[3:03:25] significant larger and more expensive

[3:03:27] and so when I got the quote it was so

[3:03:30] it's 50,000 yes so so but so we're

[3:03:33] taking 100,000 out of this I yeah I

[3:03:35] stated the new amount yeah but it but

[3:03:37] it's it's like 35,000 more than it would

[3:03:39] be if you if you it was just 100,000

[3:03:41] then it would be

[3:03:44] 262,525

[3:03:46] maybe my math is wrong 3, 45,000 I

[3:03:50] can should be 26

[3:03:55] 262 you said

[3:03:57] 297

[3:03:59] 262500 okay thank

[3:04:02] you thank you see what I crossed out all

[3:04:06] right that was it thank you for me any

[3:04:08] other

[3:04:10] question anything else any great job uh

[3:04:13] thank you so much thank you for all

[3:04:15] you're doing there yeah thank you very

[3:04:16] much go make some money for

[3:04:19] us hold on just one

[3:04:21] second I'm I'm just sorry Anthony I'm

[3:04:24] missing something you want to go back to

[3:04:26] the capital yeah my number is my number

[3:04:28] is adding up so that means there's

[3:04:29] something

[3:04:32] missing

[3:04:34] 3,000 oh I'm sorry did I not tell you

[3:04:37] the the core sweeper is not

[3:04:39] $155,000 oh that's the core sweeper is

[3:04:43] very expensive I didn't realize that I

[3:04:45] got the core sleep byon spread 3,000

[3:04:48] core sweeper

[3:04:50] 45,000 chemical mixture 1500 greens

[3:04:53] mower 50 Clubhouse patio 150 greens

[3:04:57] roller 25 lithium carp 23,000 instead of

[3:05:01] 18 there

[3:05:02] you so it comes 2975 so

[3:05:08] else there was there was a there was a

[3:05:11] bunch of adjust the cor wor 45,000 not

[3:05:14] 15 3,000 45,000

[3:05:21] 45,50

[3:05:23] 25 is

[3:05:25] 50 297 lithium ion cart is 23,000 not 18

[3:05:31] okay that that accounts for the other

[3:05:33] 5000 so what I while I was doing the

[3:05:36] budget I reached out to all of these

[3:05:38] vendors you have to work through a

[3:05:39] wholesale vendor and they got me the

[3:05:41] quotes back a couple weeks ago but it

[3:05:44] was after I had submitted estimates so

[3:05:46] now I have I I submitted it to Anthony

[3:05:48] Derek today when I have everything as a

[3:05:50] package so that number is the 297 is now

[3:05:54] correct 29751 I'm sorry I didn't I

[3:05:56] didn't think of M yet I have the sheet

[3:05:58] that I sent if you don't have this sheet

[3:05:59] no it's okay I just wanted to CU the

[3:06:01] math wasn't math for me so thank you the

[3:06:03] math was not any other question from M

[3:06:05] or PR thank you so much again thank

[3:06:12] youate anybody want anybody want to take

[3:06:15] a minute break minute break no I want to

[3:06:17] get

[3:06:20] abely getting more water I at

[3:06:22] mybody

[3:06:30] sorry who's next hurry up

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[3:06:53] here

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[3:07:18] the

[3:07:23] next he permission

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[3:08:26] any

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[3:09:57] all right all right so we'll move into

[3:10:00] the fire

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[3:10:05] department

[3:10:08] very can you just give me the page

[3:10:10] number please picking up Anthony's page

[3:10:12] 27 thank you oh now you're picking up

[3:10:15] your work he wants to do an over

[3:10:18] very yeah before you start Chief we'll

[3:10:20] hand it over to the direct just do a

[3:10:22] brief overview and then we'll hand it

[3:10:24] over to you and you walk us through okay

[3:10:27] everything that we need to know within

[3:10:28] your department and then we'll ask you

[3:10:30] to kind of highlight what is happening

[3:10:32] in new and what we need to

[3:10:34] know so the fire department budget

[3:10:37] increased by

[3:10:39] 1.96% very small amount um just note uh

[3:10:43] the local 20 uning has not been

[3:10:45] negotiated uh CA has negotiate so they

[3:10:48] do become uh negotiate for 2025 the

[3:10:51] budgets will

[3:10:54] increase okay before I start I'm just

[3:10:57] going to tell you it's been very

[3:10:59] stressful the last three hours I have to

[3:11:02] listen to the development talk about

[3:11:03] putting fires out codes talking while

[3:11:06] drinking from a fire hose and then the

[3:11:09] golf course talks well with the

[3:11:10] environment so I might be a little

[3:11:16] rled the

[3:11:18] it's only it's only like 68 golf carts

[3:11:20] so one

[3:11:23] building

[3:11:25] um I'm not the uh most tech guy I got a

[3:11:28] lot of help uh Judy and others in the

[3:11:33] office helped with the uh PowerPoint and

[3:11:36] she said that red looked angry but

[3:11:39] respons no I'm not angry okay a little

[3:11:43] too red we're going to move on anyways

[3:11:46] all right so what I want to do is just

[3:11:48] take a few minutes

[3:11:51] to show our department compared to other

[3:11:54] departments other departments that are

[3:11:57] very similar to us and what I hope do is

[3:12:00] when we get done you can see just what

[3:12:04] this department does this is a very good

[3:12:07] Department it's working with short

[3:12:10] staffing and it it provides a lot to the

[3:12:14] community and it does it if

[3:12:18] so we'll go through this quick not to

[3:12:20] keep you

[3:12:21] long n Falls 50,000 people smaller than

[3:12:26] our city uh but they have a lot of they

[3:12:29] do have a lot of uh visitors coming five

[3:12:32] stations 132 firefighters they have 26

[3:12:36] per day and they do 7,500

[3:12:40] calls we go to

[3:12:42] Bingington about the same size 47,000

[3:12:45] five stations 17 firefighters per day

[3:12:50] I'm sorry 117 firefighters on on this

[3:12:53] job 21 firefighters per day they do

[3:12:56] 11,000

[3:12:57] calls

[3:12:59] Troy 50,000 people six firehouses

[3:13:03] 117 24 per day they do 13,000

[3:13:08] calls uica pretty close to us although

[3:13:11] their city is bigger in in

[3:13:14] Mass six stations 132 firefighters 23

[3:13:19] per day they do

[3:13:20] 17,000 now the next one is

[3:13:24] Al bigger Department right 102,000

[3:13:28] population eight firehouses that's

[3:13:30] double the size of us 260 firefighters

[3:13:34] that's double the size more than double

[3:13:37] the size

[3:13:38] 47 that's crazy per day look at that

[3:13:43] number of what they do per year 25,000

[3:13:48] great 25,000 that's the number I want

[3:13:50] you to focus on and now it's connected

[3:13:53] almost 70,000 population for

[3:13:57] firehouses back in the uh Stone ages

[3:14:01] when I came on we had six firehouses

[3:14:04] before that there were

[3:14:07] 10 we had 155 when I came on now we're

[3:14:12] 119 but we have 110 available I'll get

[3:14:16] into more that minimum Staffing is 20

[3:14:19] and we're approaching 20,000 calls just

[3:14:22] take a beat back at

[3:14:24] Albany over double the

[3:14:27] size huge number per day and they're

[3:14:30] only doing 5,000 calls

[3:14:34] more so Department comparisons kind of

[3:14:38] hard to see there but I just wanted to

[3:14:40] focus what everybody else is doing

[3:14:43] compared to us hope you and I'm sure

[3:14:46] you're getting the point that I'm trying

[3:14:47] to

[3:14:48] make um this is

[3:14:52] another U comparison done by the

[3:14:56] graph the

[3:14:58] tall uh the pillars that's the number of

[3:15:02] people that you have per day and then

[3:15:05] that black line going up is the number

[3:15:07] of calls as you see we're the shortest

[3:15:10] pillar and where they almost touch in

[3:15:13] ofing okay that gives you the comparison

[3:15:17] of how many people we have how many

[3:15:18] calls we're

[3:15:21] doing so what are we doing Fire

[3:15:24] Department fire suppression right that's

[3:15:28] obvious we are the primary paramedic

[3:15:32] service in the city our people are

[3:15:34] trained to a very high level of

[3:15:37] medical we are very happy to support the

[3:15:40] police department with their SOS team

[3:15:43] their swap team they asked us if we

[3:15:46] would provide that with tactical Medics

[3:15:49] and we happily did that that's another

[3:15:52] service we're providing uh and our

[3:15:55] people are highly trained to work with

[3:15:57] the police our special operations Team

[3:16:00] part of that is the county HazMat team

[3:16:03] we go all throughout the county if you

[3:16:06] remember earlier this year later part of

[3:16:10] last year we had some issues with um

[3:16:14] trucks

[3:16:15] carrying propane

[3:16:17] liquid uh fuel right we had within a

[3:16:21] week or two I can't remember exactly two

[3:16:24] major incidences and our people were

[3:16:26] there for that uh confined space we

[3:16:30] provide that throughout the county uh

[3:16:32] landbased water

[3:16:35] rescue uh we have now developed a we're

[3:16:39] working with the county with their drone

[3:16:41] program we're supplying we're supplying

[3:16:44] pilots and since the Inception of that

[3:16:47] program uh there have been 50 missions

[3:16:49] from and it's getting more you do the

[3:16:52] more we're

[3:16:54] doing uh community outreach I've been

[3:16:57] here a long time we've never been in the

[3:17:01] community more than this

[3:17:03] year and just listed a few of the people

[3:17:07] few of the organizations that we've had

[3:17:09] the privilege to work with from a Coco

[3:17:12] house to a little bit of love to uh the

[3:17:15] sound the alarm stop the bleed program

[3:17:18] Community CPR just to mention a few fire

[3:17:23] investigation you've heard me say this

[3:17:25] before I've said it individually I've

[3:17:27] said it in public we've got the best

[3:17:29] fire investigation fire prevention

[3:17:33] unit in the area in the region in the

[3:17:37] state they're good they're really good

[3:17:41] they have 100% conviction rate for any case that goes to travel that number

[3:17:49] is astounding we have a Smokehouse

[3:17:52] that's our traveling classroom we're in

[3:17:54] the community we're at the schools

[3:17:56] teaching the youngest when people when they're most impressionable on fire

[3:18:03] safety and I'm going to tell you a

[3:18:04] couple stories about that uh juvenile

[3:18:07] fire Setters program that's us working

[3:18:10] with the school district working with

[3:18:13] Social Services identifying people

[3:18:17] children that may have an issue and

[3:18:20] dealing with it early so it doesn't

[3:18:23] become more of an issue as time goes

[3:18:29] on Staffing now Staffing tell you I get

[3:18:33] a headache talking about Staffing trying

[3:18:36] to figure out Staffing we we confer

[3:18:39] about this a lot I want to just focus on

[3:18:41] a little bit on available people we're

[3:18:45] not that far from

[3:18:47] full staff we're five vacancies right

[3:18:50] now supposed to be

[3:18:51] 119 uh we're down to 114 so you look at

[3:18:55] me and go J Maro why are you crying

[3:18:58] you're almost full Stu well I'm crying

[3:19:01] because we have seven people in school

[3:19:04] so you take the five and the Seven

[3:19:06] that's 12 we've got five

[3:19:09] more by April that are going to be

[3:19:13] leaving

[3:19:15] retiring you talking a big

[3:19:17] number um so this here but I'd like you

[3:19:22] to take away from this we're going to

[3:19:24] start the year 2025 with 109 people and the number is going to fluctuate 109

[3:19:31] people available to us and going to go

[3:19:35] up through the year it's going to go

[3:19:36] down it's going to go up we're going to

[3:19:38] end the year with

[3:19:39] 109 available people what does that mean

[3:19:42] that means the people that are on the

[3:19:44] front lines every day are are working

[3:19:47] more and more and

[3:19:51] more

[3:19:53] so in summary we're the busiest Fire

[3:19:57] Department in the region in the state

[3:19:59] for firefighter no

[3:20:02] one does more calls per fire fighter

[3:20:04] than it's going no one provides the

[3:20:07] amount of service that we do to our

[3:20:12] community the new hiring model is

[3:20:14] working and I want to thank

[3:20:18] the council and thank the mayor for you

[3:20:21] believing in what we told you that we

[3:20:23] needed to change how we hire didn't

[3:20:27] change our

[3:20:29] requirements we just changed how people

[3:20:32] are going to get those

[3:20:34] requirements we're we're helping people

[3:20:37] that want to be here that maybe can't

[3:20:39] afford to go to paramedic school at

[3:20:43] $8,000 to the program or they don't have

[3:20:48] the time because they're raising the

[3:20:50] family so you allowed us to change that

[3:20:53] we've hired 11 people this year seven of

[3:20:56] which we would not have been able to

[3:20:58] hire if you did not allow us to do that

[3:21:00] so I thank you very much for that and we

[3:21:03] have to keep going with it

[3:21:06] um we're very conscious of how much

[3:21:09] things are and what we need to

[3:21:11] do uh our office staff led by Judy and

[3:21:16] the ladies the two other ladies Leah and

[3:21:19] Jenny in there I just want to say that I

[3:21:21] talk about how great our department is

[3:21:24] and how they work with less and they're

[3:21:26] doing so much more that goes for the

[3:21:28] office staff too you you actually need

[3:21:32] three more people in that office they do

[3:21:33] tremendous work but we have tried uh we

[3:21:38] went for a safer Grant this year first

[3:21:40] time ever we're trying to uh up our

[3:21:44] staffing with that and

[3:21:47] we were

[3:21:49] unsuccessful three years ago 10% of the

[3:21:53] applicants were successful last year 8%

[3:21:57] of the applicants were successful this

[3:21:59] year 6% of the applicants were

[3:22:01] successful we made it to the final round

[3:22:05] uh we just didn't get to the end um afg

[3:22:09] we applied for a a grant that would pay

[3:22:13] for our people to go to school to kind

[3:22:15] of to lessen the burden on the city

[3:22:19] because sending them School send them to

[3:22:21] paramedical school on the fire academy

[3:22:23] it's not

[3:22:25] inexpensive we are unsuccessful and we

[3:22:28] will try again next

[3:22:29] year Staffing level is going to remain

[3:22:32] the same it's going to remain a

[3:22:33] challenge for next year but we have to

[3:22:36] keep doing what we're

[3:22:39] doing everything I just spoke to comes

[3:22:41] at a cost comes at a financial cost it

[3:22:44] comes at a physical cost or people for

[3:22:47] our members because they're out there

[3:22:49] every day doing more they're more

[3:22:52] susceptible for illness we we have we've

[3:22:56] been struck by the cancer book we've

[3:22:58] have several people that have been

[3:23:00] diagnosed with cancer and some other

[3:23:04] issues and it comes at a mental health

[3:23:10] cost so does does this matter anything

[3:23:12] what I said in the last 10 minutes does

[3:23:14] it matter I think it matters um can tell

[3:23:17] you a little story you may have heard

[3:23:18] this a little bit

[3:23:20] before um our fire prevention staff was

[3:23:26] at z school October 19th

[3:23:31] 2021 little girl Chloe

[3:23:33] attended and very attentive young lady

[3:23:37] she went home that evening gathered up

[3:23:39] the family and said firemen were there

[3:23:42] today at school talked about this and

[3:23:45] Mom Dad we got to do this this and they

[3:23:47] did they came up with a with an

[3:23:49] evacuation plan they came up with what

[3:23:51] do you do if they smoke in the house

[3:23:52] they came up with meeting place

[3:23:54] everything we all know they came up with

[3:23:56] it all that was October

[3:24:00] 19th well on October 24th 5 days later

[3:24:04] Chloe looks out the window and sees her

[3:24:06] house on part and immediately goes into

[3:24:10] action and does everything she was T and

[3:24:13] got everybody out of the house safely no

[3:24:17] one got

[3:24:18] injured that was October 24th and

[3:24:21] October 29th 5 days later our fire

[3:24:24] investigation unit was able to make an

[3:24:26] arrest the person that set the fire it's

[3:24:30] when everything happens right everything

[3:24:32] went according to

[3:24:35] plan one of the council members asked

[3:24:38] me je how many players to prevent I

[3:24:41] can't tell you that I don't know what we

[3:24:42] prevent it I wish I could tell you that

[3:24:45] can tell you how many players we've had

[3:24:47] can't tell you what we presented but

[3:24:50] Chloe's one of many what we do matters

[3:24:53] what that what our members do

[3:24:56] matters uh another um story we're in the

[3:25:02] schools now teaching a program that's

[3:25:05] called stop the

[3:25:06] bleed we've been doing it for three

[3:25:09] years and in that program we teach how

[3:25:13] to manage sever h

[3:25:19] this year we were there just at to start

[3:25:20] a school taught the program teach people

[3:25:24] how to apply

[3:25:26] tourniquets couple of weeks later there

[3:25:28] was an issue at the high school someone

[3:25:30] was was injured severely had a had a

[3:25:33] major Hemorrhage one of the staff

[3:25:35] members that were at that class knew

[3:25:37] exactly what to do had a tette and

[3:25:40] control that bleeding and if he didn't

[3:25:43] do that the patient would have suffered

[3:25:47] more severe injuries than he already did

[3:25:50] so does it matter it matters it

[3:25:52] definitely matters so what what would I

[3:25:55] like everyone here in this room anyone

[3:25:58] watching to take away is be proud of

[3:26:02] your fire

[3:26:03] department you all know we're not

[3:26:08] perfect we're not

[3:26:10] perfect

[3:26:12] but the people that come to work every

[3:26:15] day and are on on the line every day put

[3:26:17] their lives on the line they do a great

[3:26:20] job they do an awesome job so everything

[3:26:24] in that budget are things that we need

[3:26:28] and I think you know the times I've been

[3:26:31] here we don't ask for things we don't

[3:26:33] need we ask the things we need we're

[3:26:35] efficient with it

[3:26:39] um it's about all I got to say and thank

[3:26:42] you for passing my budget and I'll see

[3:26:44] you next week thank

[3:26:48] nice

[3:26:49] [Music]

[3:26:57] try I hope you're ready for your

[3:26:59] presentation sure I am song and dance

[3:27:02] yeah all right

[3:27:06] so we'll start with um just we'll go

[3:27:09] through uh fire Administration and let's

[3:27:11] go through and if there's anything that

[3:27:12] we need to questions we ask answer and

[3:27:17] we move

[3:27:19] forward into various uh departments

[3:27:22] under your control

[3:27:25] um page 26

[3:27:28] [Music]

[3:27:31] let our budget went up um 1.9% from last

[3:27:37] year I'm sorry what was that 1.9% from

[3:27:39] last year what went I'm sorry the entire

[3:27:44] budget I can you with facts and figures

[3:27:47] but whatever you want

[3:27:50] to we'll go through uh page 27 okay if

[3:27:55] you can just walk us through and we'll

[3:27:56] just roll into the

[3:28:02] next anything that we need to do you

[3:28:04] don't need to anything I don't think

[3:28:06] there's anything and open for question

[3:28:08] please go ahead uh assistant chief so if the new amounts or contracts haven't

[3:28:15] been out I

[3:28:16] whoever that individual is has a raise

[3:28:19] well it's a this is a two-parter

[3:28:24] okay all the all the

[3:28:28] positions have an 8% differential so

[3:28:31] from lieut to Captain Captain the deputy

[3:28:33] chief okay has an 8% the assistant chief

[3:28:38] that position was behind that 8% so I

[3:28:42] have

[3:28:43] requested um an increase so between the

[3:28:47] chief and the assistant chief there' be

[3:28:48] an % differential when I had asked for

[3:28:51] that I was informed that I can't just

[3:28:55] ask for that I have to look at

[3:28:58] legislation which I did There's

[3:29:00] legislation there's an ordinance

[3:29:02] out well when I did that I found that we

[3:29:06] haven't been following that formula so

[3:29:09] you see that in the budget was 159

[3:29:12] that's what we left it at but when we

[3:29:15] applied a form

[3:29:16] that position actually should be

[3:29:19] 166

[3:29:21] 967 so to follow the formula at the

[3:29:24] legislation it should be even higher

[3:29:26] than the 159 I asked for and with the

[3:29:30] Chief's position that position should be

[3:29:34] about $3,000 more it's

[3:29:37] [Music]

[3:29:39] 17334 and the budget it really should be

[3:29:42] 176

[3:29:44] 684 it did not put it in the budget

[3:29:47] because I was told I had to look at the

[3:29:49] legislation which I did and then um I

[3:29:53] got permission to increase it yeah for

[3:29:57] the

[3:29:58] 8% well the 8% was that's what motivated

[3:30:02] me to ask for a raise for that assistant

[3:30:05] position and in so doing and doing the

[3:30:08] research I found well we're those

[3:30:11] positions are either they're getting

[3:30:12] paid even less than they should

[3:30:15] according to

[3:30:18] legislation s can you please make note

[3:30:20] of that and we can

[3:30:22] look I think it's under the mayor's

[3:30:24] discussion um how he's going to proceed

[3:30:28] with those

[3:30:32] salaries any questions go ahead please

[3:30:35] so my question is overall of the blue

[3:30:37] lines which means it's

[3:30:40] arine um so you know which will be for

[3:30:43] all departments to have it is at this

[3:30:46] point in time how are we going to move

[3:30:49] be able to move forward because they're

[3:30:50] needed lines I mean they're small

[3:30:53] amounts of money for the most part

[3:30:55] mostly supplies and things um just want

[3:30:59] to make oh no the firefighter Academy

[3:31:02] well can I adjust the blue line can you

[3:31:05] adjust it I can address it can I address

[3:31:07] it yes okay uh I learned about the blue

[3:31:11] line when we started these talks today I

[3:31:14] did not know about the blue line I was

[3:31:17] surprised to see the Blue

[3:31:19] Line uh so if the blue line is there or

[3:31:23] not it's still funds we need that that's

[3:31:25] more how Finance would like to account

[3:31:28] for it because we did not have those

[3:31:31] funds we just were requesting the funds

[3:31:33] we need I see you didn't know the source

[3:31:36] correct got it and and about the red

[3:31:39] screen it it I didn't make me angry but

[3:31:41] it certainly changed when I look back at

[3:31:43] my paper I'm like I keep seeing this

[3:31:46] use a different background

[3:31:48] team J told me to I didn't do it she's

[3:31:53] 100% well we're going to go with blue or

[3:32:00] police all right any other question

[3:32:03] for any stuff on page 27 if not we're

[3:32:07] all next page see what page I'm on um 28

[3:32:17] is

[3:32:20] that well on page 28 I'll point it

[3:32:23] out I have a341 404 404 I have a

[3:32:28] question about that okay

[3:32:31] um so half of the explanation

[3:32:34] is all these things go up are psych

[3:32:39] evaluations are Dr extrem so that's what

[3:32:42] the servic that's what my question is

[3:32:43] what are the services that are in that

[3:32:45] okay okay

[3:32:47] um down recruitment is in there the

[3:32:51] website fees are in there but Dr tolin

[3:32:56] fees okay and she's our clinical

[3:33:00] psychologist um so she is she gets

[3:33:04] $1,400 a month which is quick math it's

[3:33:08] at 168 a year 14,000 plus

[3:33:12] 28 what does that come to 28

[3:33:17] two so that's half of that increase okay

[3:33:21] all right

[3:33:23] mhm uh you want to touch

[3:33:28] on which one already

[3:33:30] 410 465 we had it did we were using um our

[3:33:40] reporting system was probably 5 years

[3:33:43] old and they the company was no longer

[3:33:47] supporting that

[3:33:48] system what that means is when things

[3:33:51] broke down they weren't fixing them and

[3:33:52] they weren't doing um you know do

[3:33:55] products to to improve on it and it

[3:33:58] became obsolete so we were forced to go

[3:34:00] into a couple of different reports one

[3:34:04] report one reporting system is called P

[3:34:06] staff the other one is called fire

[3:34:08] reports um and they were all more

[3:34:11] expensive than what we were previously

[3:34:14] using

[3:34:16] that's why that's

[3:34:18] M any questions from page

[3:34:22] 28 if not we'll move to page

[3:34:28] 29 see anything major there I went

[3:34:34] up the next one I have of a of an

[3:34:39] increase is a 341146

[3:34:42] [Music]

[3:34:45] from 45,000 last year to 64,000 this

[3:34:49] year it's because we're sending people

[3:34:51] the school that covers um

[3:34:57] is it's

[3:34:59] $8,000 um a person theem paramedic

[3:35:03] school right yes

[3:35:06] Ma and then the next one will

[3:35:09] be uh 465 same category

[3:35:16] that went up $8,000 and that's just that

[3:35:20] uh for our Reporting System again our

[3:35:23] EMS charts that's our digital

[3:35:26] pcrs Striker that's um our maintenance

[3:35:30] feed for our

[3:35:32] monitors and they those mten contracts

[3:35:41] from uh I'm on page 30 now

[3:35:45] I don't

[3:35:47] see anything nature there public safety

[3:35:50] equipment any want to discuss from that

[3:35:52] which are that is

[3:35:57] [Music]

[3:36:01] 423 it's on that same page page 30 at

[3:36:05] the

[3:36:06] bottom at the bottom

[3:36:11] um those are our our turnout Gees

[3:36:14] turnout

[3:36:16] and so we're on a we're on a

[3:36:19] schedule uh where we try to replace them

[3:36:21] they have a 10-year life so we're on a

[3:36:24] schedule where they get replaced at the

[3:36:26] appropriate

[3:36:27] time any other question on page Char I

[3:36:31] just go ahead please it's more of a

[3:36:34] comment and I Know Chief and I have had

[3:36:36] a lot of conversations and I appreciate

[3:36:37] them and I appreciate the context that

[3:36:39] your brief gave I think it's just

[3:36:41] identifying that we're in a difficult

[3:36:43] spot where we paid for temporarily

[3:36:47] permanent positions and it's pretty much

[3:36:49] impossible to go

[3:36:50] backwards I'm sorry can you so to AR

[3:36:54] funding is a temporary funding source

[3:36:56] and we've permanently adopted these

[3:36:57] positions into like your your workflow

[3:37:00] so the worry is that it's evitable it's

[3:37:03] inevitable we can't go backwards so I

[3:37:05] think it's just a realization of this is

[3:37:07] the position that we currently are in

[3:37:09] with using a temporary funding source so

[3:37:11] it wasn't a question it just a

[3:37:13] realization and then I think it was made

[3:37:16] very evident with your briefing um but

[3:37:19] as the com comment that has just been

[3:37:22] constantly uh highlighted throughout the

[3:37:24] conversation is what do we do when ARA

[3:37:27] is no longer

[3:37:28] here I thought ARA was

[3:37:31] gone I thought who's gone this year it's an issue larger than just your

[3:37:35] department sorry it's an issue much

[3:37:37] larger than your department yes

[3:37:39] absolutely but when we put the put our

[3:37:41] budget together we never considered our

[3:37:44] but we've had many need and this I was

[3:37:47] surprised that there was AR money it

[3:37:49] doesn't change what we need no doesn't

[3:37:55] change there's 13 positions from two it

[3:37:59] was two and now at the

[3:38:01] 13 I just want to note that the so for

[3:38:04] a34 1200 it's not that entire amount

[3:38:08] it's we're just trying to use

[3:38:10] 43,000 and that reflects that 3 million

[3:38:13] that's in the revenue um so to recapture

[3:38:17] those funds to

[3:38:18] help bridge the gap we have in revenues

[3:38:21] and

[3:38:23] expenses but still my comment was you

[3:38:25] had the ARA firefighters going through

[3:38:28] the academy so we introduced those six

[3:38:30] new bodies or 160 firefighters into this

[3:38:34] P

[3:38:35] plan if we don't have

[3:38:37] those I'm not

[3:38:43] yeah6 is looking ble all right hold on I do think that um cuz the bottom line

[3:38:48] is that it's still the same number of

[3:38:50] people I think 112 and 112 am I reading

[3:38:53] that wrong so I think what happened was

[3:38:55] things got shifted but let me look

[3:38:57] that's what I wrote on my Note when I

[3:38:59] was going through this that the lines

[3:39:01] shifted I think a question I me ask is

[3:39:03] that why it was two last year on that

[3:39:06] line why

[3:39:10] turkey why not stay

[3:39:13] 2412 100 yes

[3:39:16] [Music]

[3:39:17] I'm sorry where are you John John where

[3:39:19] are

[3:39:20] you number the amount of money is

[3:39:23] 700,000 it's

[3:39:26] only3 343 so you're looking at these

[3:39:30] fire

[3:39:33] captain

[3:39:34] right okay so the firefighters we have

[3:39:38] different levels right so when someone

[3:39:42] becomes a firefighter there's step one

[3:39:45] then the next year to from step two step

[3:39:47] three step four so those numbers will

[3:39:50] constantly change but it's still this

[3:39:53] it's the global

[3:39:55] number we budget for 119 but next year

[3:40:00] uh that 13 might be 10 five because they

[3:40:04] moved out of that step and moved into

[3:40:06] another step it's

[3:40:08] not don't get confused that those are

[3:40:11] additional people no just I don't think

[3:40:14] that's the question the question is

[3:40:15] why why take of

[3:40:17] our yeah that's that's a

[3:40:20] final question yeah that's I'm that am

[3:40:23] of um firefighter that you have in in

[3:40:25] this apartment is more of the funding

[3:40:28] source because when this when this goes

[3:40:31] away next year where are we going to

[3:40:33] find a million dollar I thought it went

[3:40:34] away this year

[3:40:36] question raise taxes so but Mr um mrar

[3:40:41] was saying no but that's true that's

[3:40:43] what we're going to have to do but Mr

[3:40:44] Ferrari was saying that this number

[3:40:46] doesn't really represent a whole the

[3:40:48] same amount what you explain to them

[3:40:49] even though they put the 700,000 that's

[3:40:51] not really what it is is right what we

[3:40:53] did is is because we're not sure AR's

[3:40:56] going to pass or not so what we did is

[3:40:58] we put the clue line in but you're going

[3:40:59] to receive a package tonight it's going

[3:41:02] to show the amounts like for instance

[3:41:04] 8341 12100 is only for 300 where

[3:41:10] 842 343 469 total not 700 and the other

[3:41:16] number

[3:41:17] that's so that's not that's not that's

[3:41:20] not it's a it's a it's we're showing you

[3:41:23] what's going to be our Prof funded but

[3:41:25] we're going to show you this the mou and

[3:41:27] separ Page the line underneath that

[3:41:31] there is seven in 2024 and then one for

[3:41:35] [Music]

[3:41:38] 2025 if you look at the total number

[3:41:40] it's 112 see so it's still the same so

[3:41:44] total number so this leave me to um to

[3:41:47] ask for can we separate these in terms

[3:41:51] of okay you don't need

[3:41:53] seven we will bu is adoped we will

[3:41:56] separate because shouldn't we be looking

[3:42:01] kind of at the bot I mean what did you

[3:42:02] say the bottom line was it's a 1.9%

[3:42:05] increase or something I

[3:42:08] mean no um the question is we need to

[3:42:12] know how much is going towards this line

[3:42:15] from AR it is not 78,000 from AR it's

[3:42:19] 300,000 I think I think there needs to

[3:42:21] be a report uh for us to look

[3:42:25] at it doesn't send a wrong

[3:42:28] [Music]

[3:42:29] message into next year that we need

[3:42:32] 700,000 thank

[3:42:35] you right now it's right now here if you

[3:42:37] look at this I'm telling myself this is

[3:42:40] exactly how it's reach 7 or 8,000 from

[3:42:42] our

[3:42:45] you look at the revenue section the

[3:42:47] total amount 3 million is

[3:42:51] what we use

[3:42:52] [Music]

[3:42:56] our F balance for 2026 did you hear that

[3:43:00] I I I don't know I don't know if

[3:43:01] everybody heard you say that t so but

[3:43:04] the question is not is not I understand

[3:43:06] what you're saying however this doesn't

[3:43:08] truly reflect because we're seeing 78

[3:43:11] but you're telling it's really only 300

[3:43:12] so we really would like to see exactly

[3:43:16] I I understand but this is all we had in

[3:43:18] the

[3:43:20] me oh I I would like to see this

[3:43:24] Revis it will be I think right don't you

[3:43:27] give us a REV before before we adapted

[3:43:30] we should have

[3:43:31] rev

[3:43:34] [Music]

[3:43:40] fix this is I yeah oh okay this is what

[3:43:44] about okay perfect thank

[3:43:47] you did you get one I'm

[3:43:48] [Music]

[3:43:55] sorry he he only gives it to people that

[3:43:58] were in the

[3:44:00] [Music]

[3:44:05] room all right yeah we can take care you

[3:44:07] can do that yeah if you don't mind

[3:44:08] please we'll do that tomorrow yes so

[3:44:11] let's have a

[3:44:13] clear yeah thank you have a clear

[3:44:15] picture of of where the funding are

[3:44:18] coming from all right any other question

[3:44:20] on page

[3:44:22] 30 see now I move to page 31 31 I'll

[3:44:27] point out um 3342 453 clothing and Dry

[3:44:32] Goods um we've been dealing with an

[3:44:36] issue with with our class A uniforms in

[3:44:39] particular we have 30 people that do not

[3:44:44] have uniforms and they're supposed to be

[3:44:46] issue that when they come on the job so

[3:44:49] we propose that we take care of 20 of

[3:44:52] those next year and

[3:44:55] um they $500 a piece so that

[3:45:00] takes that is part of that increase the

[3:45:03] rest of that increase is just uh

[3:45:06] increase amounts for for our uniforms

[3:45:08] for our church ands andu all those all

[3:45:12] those costs have gone

[3:45:15] buying 20 what you say 20 30 we're we're

[3:45:18] planning on buying 20 to try to fix the

[3:45:21] problem thank you right now what's

[3:45:23] happening is someone it's going through

[3:45:26] an event or whatever funeral whatever it

[3:45:28] may be and we have to scr around and hey

[3:45:32] you're working can I borrow your

[3:45:38] CL any other questions any question on

[3:45:42] page 31

[3:45:50] see have Lieutenant have

[3:45:53] three4 two

[3:45:55] is motion are you u under

[3:46:01] 343

[3:46:02] yes if you remember I came to the

[3:46:05] council and I proposed that we take one

[3:46:07] of the lieutenants and make that a

[3:46:09] captain spot so that that's what this

[3:46:11] reflects instead of three lieutenants

[3:46:14] you have two

[3:46:17] any other question let's move to page

[3:46:20] [Music]

[3:46:22] 32 I don't see

[3:46:25] anything I guess you could point out

[3:46:29] um for 50 supplies and what that is

[3:46:33] that's um fire safety material that just

[3:46:37] goes to the

[3:46:42] um to the point that we're in the

[3:46:44] community so much these are things that

[3:46:47] we buy uh for

[3:46:51] giveaways those are nice yeah

[3:46:53] pamphlets uh fire safety pamphlets uh

[3:46:56] giveaways for the kids M cops always

[3:47:00] givea away

[3:47:03] [Music]

[3:47:05] love but we we got a little we got a

[3:47:08] little cute to give away a lot of

[3:47:11] beautiful gifts right so what we did was

[3:47:14] we went out and bought bag that say it's

[3:47:16] conc fire department and the kids take

[3:47:18] all the giveaways from the cops put them

[3:47:20] in our bag they but um just talk about

[3:47:24] seriously buying goodies we also have

[3:47:26] the um going back to 2410 4028 $25,000

[3:47:31] that is set aside for the public safety

[3:47:33] Foundation that is also to buy supplies

[3:47:36] and things like that for your own G that

[3:47:38] is for when we support the organizations

[3:47:42] we make donations to the organizations

[3:47:44] donations Coco house a little bit of

[3:47:47] love on the on the H okay so it's more

[3:47:49] of sponsorship both sponsorship that

[3:47:51] that's what the council gave us the last

[3:47:53] two uh budgets now this year we did not

[3:47:58] receive that so well we were told we W

[3:48:01] going to receive it so we put it in our

[3:48:03] budget so there thank

[3:48:05] you you want to increase it where is

[3:48:08] that

[3:48:09] John Sor for um page page 28

[3:48:14] 8 3410

[3:48:17] 4028

[3:48:21] 25 oh yeah we have done that over the

[3:48:23] year we split it it was 50,000 to the

[3:48:25] police department and may have requested

[3:48:28] that we split it 25 y fire 25 to police

[3:48:32] that's been tremendous that does that's

[3:48:35] been tremendous support for the yeah it

[3:48:37] does and it helps with the community

[3:48:39] outreach and that's you know that's

[3:48:40] something that we need to to focus on

[3:48:42] more and glad you all Department are

[3:48:45] doing it the it

[3:48:48] helps okay

[3:48:51] page

[3:48:53] 32 anything on that if not we'll move to

[3:48:57] page

[3:48:59] 33 33 the Fig increase will be found in

[3:49:03] 406 in service

[3:49:05] training uh that's we are hoping we're

[3:49:09] planning on hiring

[3:49:11] 10 next year and that's to send to the

[3:49:15] academy

[3:49:17] $41,000 it's $4,100 per candidate wa I

[3:49:22] I'm not seen what line is that that is

[3:49:26] that's around 33 33 all the way to the

[3:49:29] bottom 3414

[3:49:32] 406 so it's so it's actually on page 32 page 32 page 32

[3:49:40] yes it's hidden yeah I know it's you you

[3:49:44] got a page I just want to point out that

[3:49:46] it took me until just a couple of

[3:49:48] minutes ago to realize that uh you put

[3:49:50] the page numbers up on the top on the

[3:49:52] top I kept going like this if you the

[3:49:54] page numbers and you actually had

[3:49:55] already fixed it for me ahead of time

[3:49:58] but I just figured that out a little bit

[3:50:00] ago and get a question on

[3:50:04] this I that concludes our um review for

[3:50:08] the Fire Department chief are we missing

[3:50:11] anything is there anything you want to

[3:50:12] tell us Chief do you just have the

[3:50:13] capital oh Capital before we go to

[3:50:16] Capital anything you missing anything

[3:50:18] you want to tell the council uh I cover

[3:50:21] it

[3:50:22] in the red Power And The Angry power

[3:50:26] point oh it's a fir it is it is a

[3:50:31] fire good job there all right all right

[3:50:34] let's go Capital fire department you

[3:50:37] want to highlight U our

[3:50:42] revenues that we already did that

[3:50:44] already did did so we'll just go through

[3:50:47] your Capital um

[3:50:53] [Music]

[3:51:01] items cardiac

[3:51:05] monitors our cardiac monitors have a

[3:51:08] 10-year life on them

[3:51:11] um not saying that they can't be used at

[3:51:15] 10 years they can but the uh maintenance

[3:51:19] fee skyrockets and it makes the cost

[3:51:22] prohibited so we're asking for $800,000

[3:51:27] to replace our all our monitors and also

[3:51:31] with that we're asking for a mechanical

[3:51:33] CPR

[3:51:35] device

[3:51:37] um all the research is coming in that

[3:51:40] early CPR early good CPR

[3:51:45] increases survival rate for the patient

[3:51:48] anywhere is from double to

[3:51:51] triple and if ween it the device it's

[3:51:56] mechanical you set it up and it's

[3:51:59] precise we as as humans we're not

[3:52:01] precise right our depth can change our

[3:52:04] rate can change when we're moving the

[3:52:07] patient you stop CPR and all the

[3:52:11] research shows once you start CPR you

[3:52:13] don't stop because once you stop it

[3:52:17] lowers the circulation rate and you have

[3:52:20] to work that much harder to get it back

[3:52:22] up there so this device once it's in

[3:52:25] place will continue CPR from the time

[3:52:28] where we start with that patient to the

[3:52:30] time we deliver that patient to the

[3:52:32] hospital or or pulses are returned it

[3:52:37] is it will really add to the quality of

[3:52:40] what we do so that's Incorporated in in

[3:52:43] the monitors

[3:52:46] $800,000 questions how many

[3:52:51] managers

[3:52:53] 10 I think 10 I can get you that answer

[3:52:56] I think

[3:52:58] [Music]

[3:53:05] it's any question so if you can speak to

[3:53:08] that is that done in Li of a person

[3:53:11] sorry are you saying that's done in Li

[3:53:13] of having a person doing doing that will

[3:53:15] you still need someone monitoring that

[3:53:17] device or is that something you can put

[3:53:19] on and then you would know absently that is continuing on those important

[3:53:24] well once we yeah not really a set in

[3:53:27] for that you apply it you're not going

[3:53:29] to go go to the

[3:53:31] bathro stop on along the way um it has

[3:53:36] to be monitored but it it free up

[3:53:39] someone to now that is working and now

[3:53:42] maybe I can start an IV maybe I can call

[3:53:43] a do or I start with

[3:53:46] medications um it

[3:53:48] does it's more precise it's more

[3:53:51] efficient and it allows someone to do

[3:53:55] other important things thank Chief yes

[3:53:59] any other question

[3:54:00] chief chief thank you for

[3:54:03] presentation thank you to your

[3:54:05] department keeping us safe appreciate it

[3:54:08] thank you

[3:54:10] for thank you you

[3:54:12] ready want

[3:54:15] [Music]

[3:54:19] challenge is

[3:54:23] [Music]

[3:54:30] on had would

[3:54:36] be

[3:54:38] [Music]

[3:54:39] power so we just know

[3:54:46] [Music]

[3:54:50] yeah so that will be paid starting on

[3:54:52] page um

[3:54:56] 19 um right at the bottom of page 18 and

[3:54:59] into

[3:55:03] 19 byebye thank

[3:55:05] [Music]

[3:55:08] you ready go ahead give us an overview

[3:55:11] and then we'll pass quick overview

[3:55:14] police count a3120 through a

[3:55:17] 3123 also a 3320 and a

[3:55:21] 3510 the police department increased by

[3:55:23] approximately

[3:55:25] 3.25% uh there's the PBA Union

[3:55:27] negotiated uh contract uh has been

[3:55:31] negotiated be effect stting

[3:55:34] 2025 um one key aspect of that the

[3:55:38] retirement they had got 34e and that's

[3:55:41] contributing to about 1.2 million

[3:55:43] increase are

[3:55:50] retired

[3:55:52] okay chief hand it over to who is taking

[3:55:55] the

[3:55:57] lead on

[3:55:59] the okay so we'll just go to public um

[3:56:01] police Administration and just on page

[3:56:04] bottom of 80 into 90 and we'll just roll

[3:56:07] with it any question ask the Chiefs you

[3:56:10] want a brief overview of the department

[3:56:12] now or later or not at

[3:56:17] all yeah we can can want to do that yeah

[3:56:20] we ask yeah you can do that overall you

[3:56:22] know well we're talking that' be perfect

[3:56:24] yes yeah so that's be good it in here

[3:56:29] yeah each of the each of the um police

[3:56:33] Administration you just talk what is

[3:56:35] happening and then we'll address any

[3:56:38] um H items that needs to be address so is the question do you want to give

[3:56:43] us overview or not is it a question yeah it will be an overview for each of

[3:56:49] the sections as we're going through it

[3:56:52] he I was just going to give you some

[3:56:54] statistic that I can add because we kind

[3:56:56] of have done that with every other

[3:56:57] department right I kind of started with

[3:56:59] an overview of every

[3:57:01] other I can do it I can do it that way

[3:57:04] let's do it that's three minutes wasted

[3:57:08] go ahead if you want F yeah go so so

[3:57:12] we're going to start off with the

[3:57:13] administration yes yeah right so in the

[3:57:15] administration this year we are

[3:57:18] requesting that we uh remove a

[3:57:22] ips3 um it's been vacant for two or 3

[3:57:25] years and with that we're requesting one

[3:57:28] of our threes go to a four take over

[3:57:30] some other duties um so other than that

[3:57:33] everything else stays the same in the uh

[3:57:36] police Administration so we went from 22

[3:57:39] and2 bodies down to 21 and2 bodies is

[3:57:42] the quest and all those raises are the

[3:57:46] 1.75% which covers the 3 and half%

[3:57:49] throughout the year raise that's so what

[3:57:51] is the fs3 go to uh one ips3 disappears

[3:57:56] and one ips3 goes to an

[3:57:58] ips4 okay so one you just Lo getting rid

[3:58:02] of the position yes ma'am okay and in

[3:58:05] that we in that line we also uh reduced

[3:58:08] our police chaplain line down to 2500

[3:58:10] which is what it originally was for our

[3:58:12] police chaplain this siphon that we gave

[3:58:15] to the volunteers um that went away cuz

[3:58:17] that was

[3:58:19] arpa that was arpa and it was the fire

[3:58:21] department went up 20% you guys went

[3:58:24] down a lot in the chap line yeah so he

[3:58:27] still funding it

[3:58:29] for father car fire department he cost

[3:58:32] more I know he's got a

[3:58:35] yeah so the person is I mean I guess you

[3:58:40] haven't told him yet that I mean I some

[3:58:44] like wondering how how you do that like

[3:58:46] you went from so so the one chapl that's

[3:58:50] going to get to 2500 already received

[3:58:52] 2500 the other was for other chapain

[3:58:54] that we had we had another group of them

[3:58:56] we receiving um I think it was must have

[3:59:01] been uh maybe less than a thousand a

[3:59:04] year okay and then we have uh let them

[3:59:07] know that we were not going to be

[3:59:07] continue again so less people to pray

[3:59:10] yes well we're still maintaining the

[3:59:12] program there's not as sment

[3:59:16] Sor good job all right well

[3:59:19] I'll you you want to continue on all the

[3:59:22] way to the end of our Administration and

[3:59:25] then we'll open for any

[3:59:26] questions okay next p page

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[3:59:38] 20 next

[3:59:43] thing

[3:59:46] 203 oh yeah one yes uh so 203 the public

[3:59:50] safety equipment

[3:59:51] software that's the big number um that

[3:59:54] is our axon software so when the origin

[3:59:58] was brought to the

[4:00:01] council would be about two to three

[4:00:03] years worth of payments um spend about

[4:00:07] three and a half years that we've been

[4:00:08] able to do out of our budget and rant

[4:00:11] work and this year we're requesting

[4:00:15] 265 the total balance every year is

[4:00:18] 488,000 so next year um that a little

[4:00:22] closer to 488,000 where we have a little

[4:00:25] bit of remaining grant funds um that we

[4:00:29] have stashed away that we can cover off

[4:00:31] the rest of that don't be saying that to

[4:00:33] the council stashed away it it is sit

[4:00:37] away for the to cover the remainder of

[4:00:40] the 488 but then next in 202 we will

[4:00:44] need the full full 400 488,000 in

[4:00:50] 2026

[4:00:52] and can we

[4:00:54] Outreach we would like to have more in

[4:00:57] that line like department is

[4:01:00] receiving I was going to ask that

[4:01:02] question as why 5,000 on this line I

[4:01:04] would like to see that line even

[4:01:07] discussing this I would like to see the

[4:01:08] line go back to match with the fire

[4:01:10] department we only lower it to to to be

[4:01:13] the request to try to turn the

[4:01:15] bud 20,000 nothing6 $160 million bud so

[4:01:22] we I would I think publicly recommend

[4:01:25] this fa that we need to match today

[4:01:27] because they're doing a lot of work in

[4:01:28] the community and to help sponsor local

[4:01:31] um events within our community to spread

[4:01:33] awareness and to the alre that we talked

[4:01:37] about during our police reform that so

[4:01:39] Bridge a gap and the reason why the

[4:01:42] money was allocated was one of the the

[4:01:43] was a main reason and the rest of the

[4:01:46] lines are they're the same or we trimmed

[4:01:48] from last year that's down the line we

[4:01:50] recognize as a tough year we looked to

[4:01:52] see what we were spending and what we

[4:01:55] didn't need to spend um so we chopped

[4:01:57] them down a little bit not much but

[4:01:59] there was a few lines were 5,000

[4:02:02] 20,000 um

[4:02:07] 2,000 so just to be just to be clear

[4:02:11] that so it's 402b it's that because you

[4:02:13] didn't spend that much money that no we

[4:02:16] spend we were when we were going through

[4:02:18] the budget we had a we were requested

[4:02:20] that we chop some of our money and that

[4:02:24] was El who

[4:02:26] [Music]

[4:02:30] child I definitely would support I mean

[4:02:33] that was that was the only that was the

[4:02:34] only question I had for the whole police

[4:02:36] budget years Outreach the impact and the

[4:02:39] success stories so we want to continue

[4:02:41] that with the partnership with the th

[4:02:43] Department

[4:02:44] and to provide a resource that is needed

[4:02:47] yeah and

[4:02:50] yeah for

[4:02:56] it I'm going to make sure we're all

[4:02:58] together

[4:03:02] [Music]

[4:03:07] on it's it's in your budget but it's a

[4:03:09] zero out line and I understand that you

[4:03:10] already have the training though um for2

[4:03:14] 402c the anti-racism training I see

[4:03:16] there's no money there but my I was told

[4:03:18] that you had that training by some by

[4:03:21] that Grom yes underr underground yes we

[4:03:25] did have it um everyone in the

[4:03:26] department was trained and that was a

[4:03:30] one

[4:03:31] time2 in 2024 sorry we were training in

[4:03:35] 2024 it was funds that uh you dve Us in

[4:03:38] 2023 that we rolled over in 2024 so

[4:03:42] there I think there might actually be

[4:03:44] the last one just happened um last one

[4:03:46] or two months ago so so the training is

[4:03:47] finished training finished so there's no future

[4:03:50] um currently there's no future um

[4:03:54] training go ahead please uh line

[4:03:57] uh

[4:03:59] 404c County dispatch so I mean is each

[4:04:03] County um uh assessed on how many calls

[4:04:06] come in just

[4:04:08] one that's the fire department and the

[4:04:10] police department that's everyone um

[4:04:12] this year it went up 2% % from last year

[4:04:15] um typically it's been going up roughly

[4:04:17] 2% well they have to be paying adj at

[4:04:20] the end of the year too depend number oh

[4:04:22] is it so that's that's like the base

[4:04:24] figure 2% increase and then it gets

[4:04:26] adjusted at the end and sorry to say the

[4:04:28] last couple years is more I believe

[4:04:31] we're like

[4:04:33] 50 I think we 50% of the budget over

[4:04:38] there um I can look that up if you need

[4:04:40] it but no I wonder if that was how we we

[4:04:43] were yes we're roughly

[4:04:45] 50% of the

[4:04:51] whole thank you a couple years ago we

[4:04:55] had talked about priority calls and to

[4:04:57] reduce the number of calls topat and

[4:04:59] take that Poli that is that still viable

[4:05:03] we've been doing that yeah we've been

[4:05:05] doing that we have we have a

[4:05:08] call what we call call screen call

[4:05:10] screener now that so we will take

[4:05:13] somebody that's maybe injured on duty um

[4:05:16] and utilize them to do be a call

[4:05:17] screener so any pending call that's

[4:05:19] sitting there we call they hand over the

[4:05:21] phone okay so they may reducing call of

[4:05:24] service that way and the Drone is the

[4:05:26] next gate of that is to to start

[4:05:28] utilizing then

[4:05:32] we we'll say it now we've been doing it

[4:05:34] for the last month we've been doing a

[4:05:36] pilot of the Drone use on top of Sumit

[4:05:39] Towers we've already started clearing

[4:05:41] out some calls so police officers don't

[4:05:43] have to go there so we won't get our

[4:05:45] full equipment that we purchased until

[4:05:47] the end of the year so we're using our

[4:05:49] old equipment and we're also limited by

[4:05:52] uh line of sight you have that a person

[4:05:54] watching the air the the aircraft once

[4:05:57] we get our radar solution um which we

[4:06:00] can talk about in the

[4:06:01] capital and the FAA allows us to we'll

[4:06:04] be able to go beyond visual line of

[4:06:06] sight and be able to fly that drone

[4:06:09] basically wherever we need it to go a

[4:06:12] ously from the police

[4:06:14] and that leading to

[4:06:16] um Corporation Council so um in terms of

[4:06:21] we did have a discussion in terms of

[4:06:23] legislation for the

[4:06:24] Drone is there any movement on that are

[4:06:28] we still in the words it's in the works

[4:06:30] um we have been looking at it um in the

[4:06:32] office as well as policy so uh we can

[4:06:35] update you at the next committee meeting

[4:06:38] yes and the reason why I asked because I

[4:06:40] want to make sure that you know protect

[4:06:42] the police department from anything

[4:06:43] liability out there because it's a new

[4:06:45] technology out there make sure you have

[4:06:48] the protection that we need to act on

[4:06:50] doing constantly to act doing anything

[4:06:52] to change the legislation we need to do

[4:06:54] that as you roll this out we we have

[4:06:57] this there as you know protecting the

[4:07:00] police department Miss is working

[4:07:05] on yeah I don't know if it's going to be

[4:07:07] legislation or policy

[4:07:11] review I thought we stuff that we want

[4:07:14] to just make sure that that we what Mr

[4:07:16] o'ri said we could make sure that we

[4:07:18] were within we weren't violating

[4:07:19] anybody's rights or a privacy when we

[4:07:23] were that's what he said he was going to

[4:07:24] be looking at right with the drones

[4:07:26] because I understand it's not your

[4:07:28] intention but yeah we'll have in our

[4:07:30] policy that the drum camera stays up

[4:07:32] until it reaches its location before it

[4:07:34] comes down so if it's flying over

[4:07:36] somebody's yard that where they have an

[4:07:38] expectation of privacy it will not be

[4:07:40] recording

[4:07:44] you U go please it's on page 19 line

[4:07:50] a3120 1114 un vacation so it seems to be

[4:07:56] up and then down and up and then down so

[4:07:58] next year should we anticipate an upe or

[4:08:00] can we just explain why it's that's

[4:08:04] retirement re re we look at our senior

[4:08:07] list when people can retire and then we

[4:08:08] kind of have a feel out who's going to

[4:08:10] retire um some people are very vocal and

[4:08:13] let us s they leaving other people kind

[4:08:15] of hide it to last minute but um the in

[4:08:19] that was ASB currently there's nobody I

[4:08:23] think there's only two of the people are

[4:08:24] eligible for retirement and they told us

[4:08:26] they're not going to

[4:08:26] [Music]

[4:08:28] retire have time on

[4:08:30] [Music]

[4:08:31] yet and actually the people later on

[4:08:34] going back and further the ISB there's

[4:08:36] going to be the three they're leaving

[4:08:38] and we did a mock what the buy out would

[4:08:41] be already so we could see what it was

[4:08:43] and if we could

[4:08:45] accurately that thanks any other

[4:08:49] question go ahead please um on page 20

[4:08:51] though um back to 20 on the inservice

[4:08:53] training

[4:08:55] 31246 um it's down by like

[4:08:58] 25,000 um is that going to be enough

[4:09:03] or So currently we don't have any

[4:09:06] planned large scale um in service

[4:09:09] training sorry so we do have some um and

[4:09:12] we actually have

[4:09:13] one that we do every year that's a uh a

[4:09:17] countywide joint one and we uh just

[4:09:21] submitted the request yesterday to be

[4:09:23] able to use we have $16,000 in Grant

[4:09:25] fund for training and we requested that

[4:09:28] we use this for that training so that

[4:09:29] would kind of make up for part of it

[4:09:31] gotcha

[4:09:33] it's security has to approve it because

[4:09:35] it's not third see but uh we have to

[4:09:38] submit it I think it's 3 or four months

[4:09:41] in advance and the training would be in

[4:09:42] April so

[4:09:44] we we feel need the guidelines that they

[4:09:46] require us to okay thank

[4:09:49] you any other question go ahead please

[4:09:52] um so on a31 2465 maintenance contracts

[4:09:58] what what maintenance contracts that c

[4:10:02] yes list of

[4:10:10] [Music]

[4:10:11] here so r is we have a clear which is

[4:10:15] investigative software our Northeast is

[4:10:18] which is our in building phone system

[4:10:21] celebrate uh another detective software

[4:10:25] called Casper uh Baron which is our

[4:10:27] radio maintenance Lexa PA is our policy

[4:10:30] maintenance Ricky fingerprint service

[4:10:33] polium our Cad and ours vendor I'm sorry

[4:10:36] it's our um the RMS

[4:10:38] vender uh portion of our

[4:10:40] e software um our Adobe guarding

[4:10:45] Alliance Cliffs are internal

[4:10:48] cameras our Beast software which the

[4:10:50] evidence Tex use Verizon IBM Harris cor

[4:10:55] Higher Ground um a minor portion of Aon

[4:10:59] is coming out of there and potentially

[4:11:02] The Brak drones in the future as well

[4:11:04] need be once the uh gr RS

[4:11:07] out and have question it's hidden in the

[4:11:11] fold but the public uh public half of

[4:11:14] the commission of Public Safety with

[4:11:15] then your administrative budget as well

[4:11:17] the other half is in the fire yes ma'am

[4:11:19] yes 50% on ours

[4:11:23] % he's on 18 AG 18 AG 18

[4:11:27] yes there was a a 3%

[4:11:31] ra any other question on page

[4:11:35] 20 I mve to page 21 and that will be

[4:11:39] police F service be so on the top there

[4:11:43] the it looks like we have an exra

[4:11:44] Lieutenant but it's not we just moved

[4:11:46] that from ISB so you'll see the ISB went

[4:11:50] down lieutenant and we just moved it

[4:11:52] here the money is the same just for um

[4:11:55] operational need we moved it from one

[4:11:58] spot to another spot other than that the

[4:12:00] numbers um are not

[4:12:04] changing same question to anony the arpa

[4:12:08] allocation for step one step two are

[4:12:11] these fully funded by arpa

[4:12:13] no if not can you please uh May separate

[4:12:17] that get separate them and by tomorrow

[4:12:19] night we'll have all new budgets for you

[4:12:22] thank thank you sry go ahead that's the

[4:12:26] T one special police officer we're

[4:12:28] adding $110,000 of the ones that work

[4:12:29] over here in City Hall they just been

[4:12:31] covering more meetings and doing

[4:12:33] different things so we just asked for

[4:12:34] there's no rate increase the same amount

[4:12:37] of officers just to cover more events

[4:12:40] that they're working here the overtime

[4:12:44] we're requesting slight more than what

[4:12:46] Grant to us this

[4:12:48] year

[4:12:50] and the holiday P everything else

[4:12:55] go overtime has increased due to the

[4:12:57] fact of the r

[4:12:59] that the raise is

[4:13:01] 1.75% onever so takes and Fates June 1st

[4:13:05] it's 3 and a half% starting June 1st or

[4:13:09] July 1st July 1 July 1 so the second

[4:13:12] half at a312 2112 yes I just want to

[4:13:17] note that UMR year to date that Police

[4:13:21] Department a

[4:13:23] 98.2% there's 112,000 I as of today that

[4:13:27] will definitely go work

[4:13:34] between CHR Christmas Peri will be 30

[4:13:39] [Music]

[4:13:41] something, this

[4:13:43] AA

[4:13:45] 4122 page 21 at the bottom right at the

[4:13:48] bottom oh okay

[4:13:51] overtime

[4:13:54] yes any questions on

[4:13:57] page you just want to complete complete

[4:13:59] the next page

[4:14:03] ask going down to uh the Poli

[4:14:07] investigation line no no no just

[4:14:09] p and then we'll ask question any

[4:14:12] additional question move into police

[4:14:14] investigation over time say the same the

[4:14:16] temp siphon that's the fire department

[4:14:19] um that's their team their medic work

[4:14:22] with our SWOT team so they they create

[4:14:25] the budget we just put half in ours and

[4:14:26] half in others that's their request okay

[4:14:31] open for question on police field

[4:14:32] service

[4:14:34] be

[4:14:35] no any additional

[4:14:38] questions so if the county is now

[4:14:40] running the parade then um

[4:14:43] why are

[4:14:45] we why you why aren't they paying you

[4:14:47] for that they do I believe they never

[4:14:50] did and then this year they they they

[4:14:52] gave us I think $30,000 to cover summer

[4:14:56] night and and the parade um it's not

[4:14:59] even a fraction what

[4:15:01] the that's better than nothing they were

[4:15:04] for a while that's nothing they came out

[4:15:06] our

[4:15:08] budgeters

[4:15:10] yeah yeah when it was ours but it's

[4:15:13] theirs now and we need every we

[4:15:16] compensate everybody else we need to be

[4:15:19] able to get some of that compensation

[4:15:20] back so I think I don't know who's who

[4:15:24] start that conversation

[4:15:26] but are are we ready start that

[4:15:28] conversation I think it would have to be

[4:15:30] it wouldn't be I I remember this from a

[4:15:32] few years back right I mean it's not

[4:15:34] these guys it would be um I'm not asking

[4:15:37] no I I'm

[4:15:38] not it would have to it would have to be

[4:15:41] a collabor collaboration between us and

[4:15:43] the mayor to kind of you know talk to

[4:15:46] the county and try to see if we can get

[4:15:49] some

[4:15:50] additional yeah in terms of that yeah

[4:15:52] 330,000

[4:15:54] uh yeah is something that we can we can

[4:15:57] address additional Revenue it's a good year to probably address it with

[4:16:01] it's upon all of us to get involved and

[4:16:04] to bring more Revenue okay let's let's

[4:16:06] do it while they still have their arpa

[4:16:08] funding as well no I'm not kidding

[4:16:10] though I know it sounds funny but I mean

[4:16:12] they all right Let's uh let's move on

[4:16:14] anyway go ahead please so there are many

[4:16:16] events in the city where the police

[4:16:18] right you guys are out there and um the the uh whoever holding the events

[4:16:24] aren't paying for any type of police at

[4:16:27] their events I mean there

[4:16:28] AR what do you think you spend on

[4:16:31] different events throughout the city um

[4:16:34] where does that come

[4:16:37] right you get paid for some of ston

[4:16:40] reimburses us the Stockon we do get paid

[4:16:43] for that okay but we um that goes in our

[4:16:46] Revenue line nice but we for the uh

[4:16:51] Christmas the Christmas parade the

[4:16:52] holiday parade and the summer night

[4:16:55] that's this year there was money given

[4:16:57] back yeah

[4:17:00] 30 we

[4:17:04] spend that would be good to know how

[4:17:06] much spent how much you would reimburse

[4:17:08] you have

[4:17:14] well it's not only just the police

[4:17:15] department bar

[4:17:17] Department oh yeah departments that

[4:17:20] possibly reimb par parks department for

[4:17:24] events in the park all the events in the

[4:17:29] park 2023 we spent

[4:17:32] 33,8 56 on summer night that was last

[4:17:36] year this this year I can I can get all

[4:17:39] those numbers we I have them I just

[4:17:41] don't want to take that all your time

[4:17:43] actually the 20 2024 summer night was

[4:17:46] 28134 2023 holiday parade was

[4:17:49] 30,500 parade did you the parade the

[4:17:53] parade uh the parade last year was

[4:17:57] 30,500 and the summer night this year

[4:17:59] was

[4:18:00] [Music]

[4:18:01] 2813 and the Stockon is 11,200 but they

[4:18:05] reimbursed they reur you in

[4:18:07] full they reimbursed you in full I

[4:18:10] believe they reur Us in full yes 11,24

[4:18:13] .97 in

[4:18:15] 2023 what about events over in the park

[4:18:17] like music mement I mean those things

[4:18:19] are all I mean there's a couple of

[4:18:21] officers on duty are they private or

[4:18:25] they pay them

[4:18:27] yeah so just to be clear then we people

[4:18:31] can hire your guys even though they get

[4:18:33] to wear the uniform but they're hired

[4:18:34] they hire them separately

[4:18:37] like we essentially they get to wear

[4:18:39] their uniform but they're really not on

[4:18:40] the clock with you I don't they have the the polo shirts with the

[4:18:48] um the police they're definitely

[4:18:50] identified as police officers but to

[4:18:52] your point yes um they can wear uniforms

[4:18:54] and get paid privately okay thank

[4:18:58] you but not not at all events specific

[4:19:02] has to be specific events they have to

[4:19:05] be approved by me okay which ones what

[4:19:07] they're allowed and typically won't

[4:19:10] allow everything can't work in a bar

[4:19:14] give me

[4:19:14] [Music]

[4:19:15] a that's why I asked go ahead please I

[4:19:19] say would even help like future councils

[4:19:21] at least for me is having a breakdown of

[4:19:23] what that overtime encompasses CU if it

[4:19:25] is like event overtime I think that's a

[4:19:27] distinction that is

[4:19:30] valid and you get reimbursed for Val

[4:19:33] right that's and before we have the

[4:19:35] conversation but not to say we do that

[4:19:37] now but I think it's at least worth

[4:19:38] having a conversation if you would like

[4:19:41] at one time Chach person I can uh come

[4:19:44] in and speak to you about we have like

[4:19:46] 30 or 40 different or man codes and it

[4:19:49] breaks it down some of this

[4:19:51] investigations like I can tell you one

[4:19:52] investigation last year cost like

[4:19:54] $50,000 so I can break it down as far as

[4:19:58] what they are sometimes sometimes it's

[4:20:00] so close so tight I can't we can't but

[4:20:03] you can get a really good picture of

[4:20:04] what it looks like if we I appr thank

[4:20:06] you I think especially the overtime when

[4:20:08] it's events and if we're if it's coming

[4:20:10] out of like Christmas

[4:20:13] the summer night and you know it's

[4:20:15] coming out of our budget and it's an

[4:20:17] event

[4:20:19] yes it it's gets real complicated as far

[4:20:23] as you can get into the weeds with this

[4:20:26] like Patrol over time could have like

[4:20:29] just as an example for our give Grant

[4:20:31] has $35,000 worth of Patrol over time

[4:20:35] which comes out of that 2.4 million and

[4:20:38] then it's part of the full Grant give

[4:20:41] Grant Revenue salaries and everything

[4:20:44] but it also includes the

[4:20:45] $35,000 that's part of the revenue but

[4:20:48] we spend it out of here and then we

[4:20:49] spend another $35,000 investigation over

[4:20:52] time on the give Grant that's reimbursed

[4:20:54] so a lot of Grants well not a lot but

[4:20:56] many grants reimburse over

[4:20:59] time it's very hard for us to be able to

[4:21:03] we can give you a breakdown of what

[4:21:05] where they're

[4:21:06] exp all right any other question on fuel

[4:21:09] service see none we move to uh bot I

[4:21:12] kind of did have a question but it's

[4:21:14] probably more about Revenue because you

[4:21:15] talked about grants so that just

[4:21:17] triggers um so are all the grants that

[4:21:19] you receed shown up on Revenue Lines

[4:21:22] within our revenue is every single grant

[4:21:25] that you receive to do everything that's

[4:21:27] in your budget are they shown no revenue

[4:21:30] on I know because I know you apply for a

[4:21:32] lot of Grants yes I believe um unless

[4:21:35] it's a onetime thing that we're not used

[4:21:37] to getting that I believe those are all

[4:21:40] in our um budg line

[4:21:46] some grants are on a specific Grant Line

[4:21:49] like an where it's not in it's not not

[4:21:52] charged here it's charged to a grant

[4:21:55] budget not charged

[4:21:58] to our give Grant is on there um I would

[4:22:02] think that like the one that's not on

[4:22:04] here we recently got last year was uh

[4:22:07] $75,000 for the basically the SWAT te

[4:22:10] that one was not on we getting it that

[4:22:12] was a a surprise to us the one that I

[4:22:15] know that lieuten Wiki was here the

[4:22:17] other night he came here for the traffic

[4:22:20] safety Grant

[4:22:22] that's

[4:22:25] um vest Pro vest the not

[4:22:34] on here's a cop

[4:22:36] gr yeah the cop Sprint that's that one's

[4:22:39] on there the actually our equipment like

[4:22:42] we got one for gym equipment that one

[4:22:44] wasn't on there that was and then the

[4:22:46] other one that's not on there is

[4:22:48] um we received one for grants for our uh

[4:22:52] a new firearm upgrade last year firearm

[4:22:56] fer stuff like that it was just given us

[4:22:58] from DCJS that's not

[4:23:00] theology

[4:23:03] technology so my concern is that there's

[4:23:06] grants that that aren't showing up

[4:23:08] however it's showing up in the cost line

[4:23:10] so no no they were given pay codes so

[4:23:14] separ separate from so we we have the

[4:23:16] funds we get um from from M far team we

[4:23:20] get a code and that doesn't show up on

[4:23:22] the regular budget it shows up separ it

[4:23:24] shows it's a grant grode you like so we

[4:23:27] won't see the V on here because separate

[4:23:30] Grant those are separate grants that are

[4:23:33] is not in there you don't see the

[4:23:35] revenue because send a gr fund Grant

[4:23:39] fund yeah gotcha and my other question

[4:23:41] is about the um I forgot what you call

[4:23:44] it when you take people's money what you

[4:23:47] call forfeiture asset forfeiture yes um

[4:23:51] and so I know that it can only be spent

[4:23:53] on specific things so does any of the uh

[4:23:57] asset forfeiture at all get spent we

[4:24:00] have not spent any since at least two

[4:24:03] years or so

[4:24:06] um and I can look to see what we have in

[4:24:09] there I know that it it flow on want we

[4:24:12] have $34,000 in the other one I think

[4:24:16] there is um over 100,000 but I'm not I'm

[4:24:20] not sure that was from this

[4:24:22] year's you're not getting as regular as

[4:24:24] you used to be we don't get and of stop

[4:24:28] typ program some of the money we just

[4:24:30] got was from 2013 so it was it takes

[4:24:33] quite a while for it to clear it out and

[4:24:36] but if we have that asset fores is

[4:24:38] there's nothing in our budget that we

[4:24:39] can spend something some of it on I I

[4:24:42] know it's specific but there's

[4:24:43] absolutely nothing I know in the past we support like

[4:24:47] $440,000 a year out of it but we have't

[4:24:50] done that quite a while so I can work

[4:24:52] with the chief commissioner on that I

[4:24:54] don't know enough about what we can and

[4:24:56] can't spend on I know we I'm not sure

[4:24:57] there's a l if you can't plan from what

[4:25:00] some in the budget but I don't I just

[4:25:02] don't understand I don't know if that

[4:25:04] would be spending or if we're allowed to

[4:25:05] use that for you might be able to use it

[4:25:07] for certain investigations maybe now you

[4:25:09] can't use it for invations it's like

[4:25:11] purchasing of you know Police Supplies

[4:25:13] and stuff and you can buy equipment

[4:25:15] things so so that makes sense to me that

[4:25:18] would be it if there's if there's things

[4:25:20] that we can use it for this if you have

[4:25:23] 100,000 I guess I

[4:25:25] think I think I don't know I'll top my

[4:25:28] head said Che he said he would check

[4:25:31] into it let's please we got we got to

[4:25:33] finish this off so um if if you could

[4:25:36] look at that if there's something that

[4:25:38] you know if you have that money there it

[4:25:39] can be spent and I know it's maybe a

[4:25:41] smaller amount but we're we we got to

[4:25:44] cover every base we can so can you get

[4:25:47] that to the council at some point in

[4:25:52] time no that's what I was just saying he

[4:25:54] said he would check into it any any

[4:25:57] other

[4:25:58] questions on on F service for that no if

[4:26:04] not I'm not familiar with What U Miss

[4:26:07] pfield was what is that money it comes

[4:26:09] from the se's assets so um cases that

[4:26:12] involved sometimes drugs or just cases

[4:26:15] that somebody has money you're not

[4:26:16] supposed to have and then it goes

[4:26:18] through the whole court and sometimes

[4:26:20] the Court gives some of it back and

[4:26:22] usually you know the cases we get some

[4:26:24] so our guys that work on task forces

[4:26:26] they'll say you get you know 8% of

[4:26:28] whatever the for your amount is and then

[4:26:31] it takes you know we had from 2013 so it

[4:26:35] took 11 years for us to get the money

[4:26:37] eventually the de just got it the only the only thing I'm going to say

[4:26:40] about that is that our seed assets we

[4:26:43] typically have them part of our budget

[4:26:44] planning process so where we might be

[4:26:47] saving for piece of equipment that we

[4:26:50] didn't put in for a capital request

[4:26:51] because we were saving for so okay so

[4:26:55] that so when you identify how much you

[4:26:57] have then you might want to just go back

[4:26:59] and see if you have anything that

[4:27:01] is equipment

[4:27:03] [Music]

[4:27:05] toe yes perfect um next if no further

[4:27:09] question we'll move into police

[4:27:10] investigation the bottom of page

[4:27:14] 22 that shows the subraction of the

[4:27:17] lieutenant subtraction because

[4:27:19] Lieutenant to the uh

[4:27:22] investig investigator inv to

[4:27:26] the

[4:27:33] and it's still 52 keep going all the way to page 233

[4:27:42] [Music]

[4:27:44] investigation

[4:27:45] question okay oh go ahead please so do

[4:27:49] crime analysts do you share them with

[4:27:51] the county is this yours is the person

[4:27:53] belong to you and the police department

[4:27:55] these are ours so we have three crime so

[4:27:58] we have the director and we have two

[4:28:01] others those there are one of them is

[4:28:04] stationed in Albany at the AL C um the

[4:28:07] AL the AL crime analysis centers okay um

[4:28:11] but she works for the city and she only

[4:28:13] does work for us even though she's over

[4:28:15] there no she can do work for other

[4:28:16] agencies as well while she's there she

[4:28:18] can she does primarily ours but there's

[4:28:21] a team of I'm not sure how many there

[4:28:23] are six or eight over there that will

[4:28:24] work on something for conected even if

[4:28:26] she's needed she'll work on something

[4:28:28] for another agency as well Shar service

[4:28:30] yeah shared services is also shared

[4:28:32] costs uh no so we pay for just her

[4:28:36] everyone else pays for their own whoever

[4:28:38] supplies one and then the um CER has

[4:28:41] their own budget as well for several

[4:28:44] people I think they're actually in Aly

[4:28:46] police departments police station so I

[4:28:48] that they I think they have two officers

[4:28:50] or two analysts assigned to it and I

[4:28:53] don't know how many po there are but you

[4:28:55] know there's a new facility over there

[4:28:57] we just pay her

[4:28:58] [Music]

[4:29:00] salary we pay her Sal but she has the

[4:29:02] office in allice Yes and she'll come

[4:29:04] back here as well youit of that

[4:29:07] intelligence yeah that's I was going to

[4:29:08] say prob because they did that while ago

[4:29:12] is it similar to like the comp crime

[4:29:14] task force or very Sim similar yeah so

[4:29:19] perhaps it's cases where you know it

[4:29:22] goes beyond SKC it might be like they're

[4:29:24] working as a team to look at I I don't

[4:29:27] know I mean other words it might be

[4:29:29] something where somebody from Troy and

[4:29:31] somebody from yeah so and somebody from

[4:29:33] maybe it's all like working together on

[4:29:35] this crime I mean they do that as well

[4:29:38] as um I know like we have our we have

[4:29:39] certain reports that she works on our

[4:29:41] report 14 or she's there and she has

[4:29:43] access to other technologies that we

[4:29:45] don't have um and she's learned a lot

[4:29:48] while she's over there too actually cuz

[4:29:49] she's there's more people more

[4:29:51] techniques more technology that she's

[4:29:53] able to get for but we are under no we

[4:29:56] no contract we're not set there so if

[4:29:58] the chief ever felt that she'd be more

[4:30:00] beneficial to be just in house we can

[4:30:02] pull her back tomorrow and there's no no

[4:30:04] agreement in place we're free to utilize

[4:30:07] their services without giving them an

[4:30:09] asset um but the we're the second

[4:30:12] highest utilization behind all the

[4:30:14] police department there um so I just

[4:30:17] felt it was right to give them the extra

[4:30:19] body and she's dedicated to us and they

[4:30:21] also have a dedicated supervisor for us

[4:30:24] so they they do a lot of work for us our

[4:30:26] investigators save a lot of time doing

[4:30:29] workups on people because they'll just

[4:30:31] send them over there they'll do it I

[4:30:33] they go and hit the streets they have to

[4:30:35] do

[4:30:36] so one one thing I want to not on page

[4:30:40] 22 you look at police officer

[4:30:42] investigator went 35 to 36 that was

[4:30:46] because last year we made a mistake the

[4:30:49] state gave us a grant for a non-fatal

[4:30:51] shooting investigator that was fully

[4:30:53] funded and the grant came right around

[4:30:56] budget time and we did not increase it

[4:30:58] last year but we got the revenues last

[4:31:00] year so this year we just corrected

[4:31:03] it so the police

[4:31:06] officer yes 35 to 36 I see not it's like

[4:31:12] the third thing the one body that you

[4:31:14] third thing up from the bottom of the

[4:31:15] sheet okay you went up 36 okay any other

[4:31:19] question for app Sal

[4:31:22] section we'll go into

[4:31:26] 3123 Auto

[4:31:28] [Music]

[4:31:30] compensation so the again we requesting

[4:31:33] an increase on the overtime line from

[4:31:37] 93,000 to a million um partially from

[4:31:41] the raise that they'll be receiving

[4:31:44] salary line we able to decrease the on

[4:31:48] sick leave we did increase the onuse

[4:31:50] vacation those are numbers that we

[4:31:53] forecasted out that are in planned for

[4:31:56] the at least the three retirement that I

[4:31:57] know that are

[4:31:58] coming the standby phase uh the on call

[4:32:03] detectives great that's standing same

[4:32:12] [Music]

[4:32:15] any question on

[4:32:20] this police investigation seeing none I

[4:32:24] think I conclude um the police

[4:32:27] department review we have two other

[4:32:30] section the parking and animal control

[4:32:34] and that will be on page

[4:32:37] 26

[4:32:40] parking so for the parking uh we're

[4:32:44] looking for the same amount of Staffing

[4:32:46] the rates went down a little bit just

[4:32:47] because of uh new ties um we're looking

[4:32:51] to hire actually right now we have two

[4:32:52] open vacancies and the parking meter

[4:32:54] attendance those and we have uh one and

[4:32:59] the inut processing specialist two and

[4:33:02] that is why the rate went down the same

[4:33:05] number just because they would be

[4:33:06] starting their new Step person retired

[4:33:08] previously and now the rates is a little

[4:33:10] lower because they' be starting at a

[4:33:11] lower

[4:33:13] St and the rest

[4:33:16] is since we under parking I'm going to

[4:33:19] question go ahead please so um under the

[4:33:22] administrative salar there's no increase

[4:33:24] for the Civil supervisor traffic

[4:33:27] Services I think that may be an overate

[4:33:31] I think

[4:33:33] they're

[4:33:35] CA so it's coming thank you well since

[4:33:38] we are parking and we're talking about

[4:33:40] um fees increase at

[4:33:45] asq yeah we didn't go over the we go

[4:33:47] over the re no there there's something

[4:33:49] special I want to talk about you're

[4:33:50] talking about the past few finds that

[4:33:54] the police department is is working with

[4:33:57] um

[4:33:58] agencies so kind of lock for lock of

[4:34:01] work go off to these um people who are

[4:34:02] not paying the CLS I will give a very quick you can just brief us and um

[4:34:07] if you have anything to share you can

[4:34:09] share with us a long time ago uh in

[4:34:12] 2020 the city was with a company called

[4:34:15] comp plus they switched over to

[4:34:17] passport in the meantime plus was also

[4:34:21] out by passport so from 2020 until I

[4:34:24] believe it was mid

[4:34:27] 2021 uh commissioner brought to our

[4:34:29] attention that we were receiving what we

[4:34:31] call delinquent funds which is a budget

[4:34:32] line it's a separate Revenue line so we

[4:34:35] started looking into it it took way

[4:34:37] longer than it should have um between

[4:34:39] the different companies the Law

[4:34:40] Department we finally got a contract

[4:34:43] signed with a collection agency of

[4:34:45] December of

[4:34:47] 2022 and what they do is they letters

[4:34:51] EXC and they add fees on top of the city

[4:34:53] fees so we're not paying them any money

[4:34:56] when somebody pays a delinquent ticket

[4:34:58] which it delinquent by code has to be

[4:35:00] over 6 months past when the ticket was

[4:35:02] originally due that's in the section of

[4:35:05] Fe section that we're currently working

[4:35:07] on with the uh uh Council and that uh by

[4:35:13] the time we were able to get a ticket

[4:35:15] approved and get it set through all the

[4:35:18] Motions long story short is finally

[4:35:20] about a month ago they the letter

[4:35:21] started going out so we received

[4:35:24] [Music]

[4:35:25] $54,000 of that money so far um now that

[4:35:31] letter that went out is an incorrect

[4:35:33] letter because they never they never

[4:35:35] included the extra 25% fee on there so

[4:35:39] that's not going to be our problem

[4:35:40] that's going to be their problem that's

[4:35:42] going to be their that's their problem

[4:35:43] that we're working on um but there is um

[4:35:47] s in the last roughly 6 months or sorry

[4:35:50] six weeks I think is when the letters

[4:35:52] went out 10 the week you looked it up

[4:35:54] today of tickets that were 6 months and

[4:35:57] older that were sent a collections

[4:35:59] letter is 54,000 revenue for that

[4:36:03] overall

[4:36:04] so anything that is older than roughly 3

[4:36:08] and 1/2 years has already gone to

[4:36:10] collections they already tried to

[4:36:12] collect that money in anything less than

[4:36:14] 3 years it's just starting to go up now

[4:36:17] the letters went out want to know um we

[4:36:18] be checked in that the one collection

[4:36:20] agency or passport sent to Capital

[4:36:22] recovery they had said that they just

[4:36:24] received 10,000 files so there's files

[4:36:27] lots of letters going out all over the

[4:36:28] place and hopefully this revenue is

[4:36:29] going to pick up but just to give you a

[4:36:33] little summary what we have in Revenue

[4:36:36] that is 10 years old and older so the

[4:36:38] really old money we have $2.2 million go

[4:36:42] that's money that's over 10 years old

[4:36:45] see um the money that's 30 days old is

[4:36:50] 60,000 31 to 60 days is

[4:36:53] 36,000 91 to 80 is

[4:36:56] 41 181 to one year is

[4:37:00] 193,000 one year old and older is

[4:37:03] 358,000 2 years old and older 28,000 so

[4:37:07] I can provide this to can he can share

[4:37:10] it

[4:37:13] to all of us the total yeah so we're not

[4:37:16] going to get anything L you know from

[4:37:18] older than 3 years from now so old than

[4:37:20] three years that's already been tried to

[4:37:21] collect for several years Capital

[4:37:23] recovery was doing that we may get lucky

[4:37:25] and somebody may decide to pay when they

[4:37:27] get this but that's something that's

[4:37:29] already been tried to collect and it's

[4:37:30] not

[4:37:32] there you have you have to come in you

[4:37:35] and the others who work in your team to

[4:37:37] kind of go after it it weren't going

[4:37:40] after it and see where we we are because

[4:37:41] we're not losing anything we're not

[4:37:43] paying the collection agency to do this

[4:37:45] they going to get um the 25% mark up on

[4:37:50] whatever they collect so it's a good

[4:37:52] effort $4.7

[4:37:54] million we're definitely hoping to get L

[4:37:57] of that the other op the other thing

[4:37:58] that I know we SP quickly is we do what

[4:38:01] we call scotf FL details so if you owe

[4:38:04] um I believe it's now it's more $200 and

[4:38:06] I'm sorry maybe $300 now your list gets

[4:38:09] put into our lprs and our cars and it

[4:38:11] goes around and beeps and officers will

[4:38:13] either pull a car over or if it's parked

[4:38:15] on the side of the road early hours or

[4:38:17] at night in the morning they do these

[4:38:18] details they to the car you can't get it

[4:38:20] back until you

[4:38:21] payow there's just I only pull two

[4:38:25] months worth of data um CU that's what

[4:38:27] get quickly before I came over today and

[4:38:30] some in one detail we spent $1,524 of

[4:38:34] Officer I'm that's two different details

[4:38:36] an officer's Personnel cost and we were

[4:38:39] able to retrieve 2,150

[4:38:42] of outstanding parking fees wow another

[4:38:44] time we were able to take in spent 1314

[4:38:47] and we took in

[4:38:49] 14,550 and these details are what we're

[4:38:51] doing we're doing a couple of these a

[4:38:53] month and that's why our parking fee

[4:38:56] revenue is going up right now I believe

[4:38:59] we've taken in we think we 7,000 shy or

[4:39:02] 540,000 that we had forecasted for 2024

[4:39:05] so we're going to blow that um a

[4:39:08] proportion for what we expected to take

[4:39:10] in for Revenue we're going to be than

[4:39:11] that and part of it is this these

[4:39:15] details that we're running to go after

[4:39:16] to the Scout fls so um because in terms

[4:39:21] of all

[4:39:22] the so that um make the fines that are

[4:39:26] in our Revenue budget I believe I I

[4:39:29] might have um checked in on this already

[4:39:31] but I just want to verify that these

[4:39:34] various

[4:39:35] fines uh that are police related in our

[4:39:37] Revenue budget yes do

[4:39:40] not in include yet the increases that um

[4:39:45] it does I do believe they they do

[4:39:47] include that oh they do okay that makes

[4:39:49] more sense to me I I for some reason I I thought I had asked um and they

[4:39:54] weren't included in there they said yes

[4:39:57] the answer on your said yes it was the

[4:39:59] reason why we pushed it to kind of call

[4:40:01] for the public hearing and to kind of

[4:40:03] allow the department to incorporated

[4:40:05] into the parture because it is something

[4:40:08] that we address and I don't think um

[4:40:11] we're going to hold that we're moving

[4:40:12] forward yeah no I I mean includ bu putot

[4:40:16] enforcement and um Police Department

[4:40:20] okay but we haven't yet totally voted on

[4:40:24] this yet right no on that part because

[4:40:26] there's public

[4:40:27] hearing next Monday okay and once we do

[4:40:31] that it will it will take effect January

[4:40:34] 1st 225 budet okay all right any other

[4:40:39] question on parking I go ahead please go

[4:40:43] ahead um so you said the ones that were

[4:40:45] two years the 2.2 million Mr fiz We're

[4:40:49] Never Getting that but saying

[4:40:53] that 10 years I mean you know people

[4:40:55] could be anywhere well true um but they

[4:41:00] could be still here somewhere in the

[4:41:01] Europe so is it still like if you

[4:41:04] there's a you know this thing where if

[4:41:06] you own something and you go to register

[4:41:08] your car or something like that it pops

[4:41:10] up you can't register your vehicle so

[4:41:13] none of this came up on that no so there are a few of them um that so every

[4:41:19] once in a while we do get letters from

[4:41:21] the DMV that they have to come in there

[4:41:22] to take in order to do that um usually

[4:41:25] it's the people who have their cars

[4:41:28] towed and they're they have a plate

[4:41:29] still on the car and then they can't

[4:41:31] register the new car because of the

[4:41:33] insurance laps and things like that so

[4:41:34] then they will sometimes people come

[4:41:37] into US say they lost their plates

[4:41:39] because the cars were towed then we have

[4:41:40] to get a little a little bit of a

[4:41:42] disagreement with them because we can't

[4:41:43] give a lost or stone plate because it's

[4:41:45] not lost or stone it's just we have your

[4:41:47] car you have to pay us the the fines

[4:41:49] that that you're outstanding but as far

[4:41:51] as that goes I don't know what the DMV's

[4:41:52] requirement is but I do know that um

[4:41:55] randomly we do get letters from them

[4:41:57] from people coming in that say they have

[4:41:59] to pay their bills and register their

[4:42:00] cars but I don't know what the

[4:42:02] requirements for that are there's

[4:42:04] obviously some requirement I mean do we

[4:42:06] need deeper into that so that people

[4:42:08] can't go register their car if they have

[4:42:10] this out standing debt to the city yes I

[4:42:13] don't like some if if you said 200 or

[4:42:17] 300

[4:42:18] so there's people so in order for your

[4:42:20] car to get to it's $300 right now it's

[4:42:23] set um for $300 $300 because it's I

[4:42:28] believe we worked with the last

[4:42:29] Corporation Council on that number just

[4:42:31] because it was we can we can hold it for

[4:42:34] anything for whether it's one ticket at

[4:42:37] week but because the cost of the toe

[4:42:39] they're going to pay is like $230 I

[4:42:41] think to get the car towed so we wanted

[4:42:43] to make it you know not an unreasonable

[4:42:46] number so we were towing a car for $70

[4:42:48] outstanding then you had to pay $235 to

[4:42:50] get your car back that's little if you

[4:42:53] had $300 you have either one I guess

[4:42:56] You' say major ticket that's already

[4:42:57] doubled or you have several little

[4:42:59] tickets and that's usually what it is is

[4:43:01] multiple little tickets and they've been

[4:43:03] contacted several times so it's a

[4:43:06] little um easier to swallow I guess for

[4:43:09] your car if knowing that you have

[4:43:11] multiple tickets that

[4:43:13] you the reason why you to say Vehicles

[4:43:15] over 10 years old we're not going to get

[4:43:17] it most of these vehicles have are off

[4:43:19] the road uh they've been crushed uh you

[4:43:23] know mostly are gone or plates that you

[4:43:25] know people just you know got new plates

[4:43:29] got rid of the old ones stuff like that

[4:43:31] that's that's what we talk that's what

[4:43:33] we were told yeah but cars can be gone

[4:43:35] they're tied to you you people know that

[4:43:38] you own the car it's not like you get

[4:43:41] rid of a car and nobody knew that you

[4:43:42] were the ownership that's I'm saying

[4:43:44] that's what people just won't pay

[4:43:46] because they don't have the car you

[4:43:49] there's nothing you can do CU you're not

[4:43:50] registered anymore maybe stoping from

[4:43:52] registering the Cent car oh I don't you

[4:43:55] do that go ahead please so I know me and me

[4:44:02] [Music]

[4:44:06] and late I know blame me for that we are

[4:44:11] we had the email exchange that was going

[4:44:13] on where you were replying some

[4:44:15] responses based on the ticket

[4:44:17] spreadsheet that you provided and thank

[4:44:19] you for those follows which I really

[4:44:20] appreciate it I do think if we're

[4:44:22] starting to collect some some of these

[4:44:24] outstanding tickets there is an

[4:44:26] requirement from our city to be

[4:44:28] responsive and not saying that you're

[4:44:30] not I think your response is proved

[4:44:31] otherwise I just wanting to reiterate

[4:44:34] the importance of us being respondent to

[4:44:37] putting in place other measures where if

[4:44:39] there are tickets being expended that do

[4:44:42] not need to be or are the result of like

[4:44:44] unclear signage or we have an obligation

[4:44:47] to work with the community also because

[4:44:49] I think as we start to have these fines

[4:44:52] go out if we're not working or being

[4:44:54] responsive in how our signs are

[4:44:56] advertised or what what what are they

[4:44:58] illustrating I think it can send a very

[4:45:00] unclear message we're just trying to do

[4:45:02] another money grab and I don't think

[4:45:04] that's the intent it is how do we

[4:45:05] enforce our laws and again if signs are

[4:45:08] not effective how do we update those

[4:45:09] signs that we're working with the

[4:45:12] community I don't disagree with any of

[4:45:14] that I know that right now with the

[4:45:16] signs if there's a a sign issue or um

[4:45:20] going through core process that tiet

[4:45:22] gets it's taken out that assign was put

[4:45:24] on the list and it was after to the

[4:45:25] assign Department to to work on updating

[4:45:27] it and our officers and the parking

[4:45:29] officers won't actually ticket anybody

[4:45:31] that but anything that we can do as far

[4:45:33] as

[4:45:35] um that's the fire Hydra thing again I

[4:45:37] don't know how expensive that would be

[4:45:39] to to actually do something like that

[4:45:41] but we be able to proba B before and

[4:45:43] after um if you want want to try a

[4:45:45] certain area but if there's any thing

[4:45:48] that we can do to assist in in bringing

[4:45:51] awareness to that we're definitely going

[4:45:53] to help absolutely I think Brian Kon was

[4:45:56] mentioning that they working with u the

[4:45:57] police department in terms of addressing

[4:45:59] the signs yes so you guys provided uh

[4:46:03] funding many years ago for science a

[4:46:06] finally get get here for a few months

[4:46:09] now with uh team and the bureau to

[4:46:15] get I have to command you and your

[4:46:17] aggressive approach approach to towards

[4:46:20] these house past

[4:46:22] [Music]

[4:46:23] you it's a good thing and you and your

[4:46:26] team are doing everybody including Chief

[4:46:29] it's something that we have to go after

[4:46:31] if it's 30,000 40 50,000 100,000 is

[4:46:34] something coming in as a revenue to the

[4:46:36] department and over the years people are

[4:46:38] going to get a wing of hits and they

[4:46:40] have to pay

[4:46:42] any other questions if not on parking

[4:46:45] we'll move to annal control page

[4:46:48] [Music]

[4:46:52] 34 and that will conclude our

[4:46:56] um the big change here with that as um

[4:47:01] we are requesting to decrease one and

[4:47:04] add a control supervisor position I see

[4:47:08] there's a a significant raise there uh

[4:47:11] we would like to elevate the one inol

[4:47:14] one of the two that we have currently in

[4:47:15] their supervisor role doing an

[4:47:18] absolutely amazing job

[4:47:21] and the this is a she's acting at a

[4:47:26] supervisor currently she's already aison

[4:47:28] she multiple different places um get

[4:47:31] nothing but great feedback all the time

[4:47:33] we want to try to retain her

[4:47:35] employee increasing her salary

[4:47:39] would that

[4:47:41] and I am going to ask that we are also

[4:47:44] looking to increase the fee here so M

[4:47:47] Michael you want to talk on

[4:47:50] this the revenue you mean the revenue

[4:47:53] part on this increase the fees on the

[4:47:57] dog licenses yes this this has nothing

[4:48:00] to do with this no this is separate yes oh

[4:48:05] yes so just so you have two Dev Control

[4:48:08] Officers and you just want to give one a

[4:48:10] raise and and call them the supervisor

[4:48:12] yes ma'am thank

[4:48:16] you any question on this

[4:48:20] section are we missing anything you want

[4:48:23] to give us any U no just before we go

[4:48:26] Capital anything that we need to address

[4:48:28] for the

[4:48:29] council any new new things that

[4:48:31] happening in the police department

[4:48:33] anything the

[4:48:35] pipel um not really I mean nothing the

[4:48:38] only thing new I probably have to report

[4:48:40] is New York State Police are finally up

[4:48:42] staff so they're going to start doing

[4:48:44] blue gr controls next Thursday so who do

[4:48:47] they doing the New York State Police are

[4:48:49] going to start helping us control the

[4:48:50] streets again they're finally up to full

[4:48:53] Staffing so we'll start seeing Troopers

[4:48:56] working with our offices again start

[4:48:58] Thursday so that's really thing to

[4:49:00] report and chief T the Staffing can you

[4:49:02] address the Staffing I know that you are

[4:49:04] problem most capacity or capacity yeah

[4:49:07] we were at full Staffing uh we have four that are actually going to be out

[4:49:12] of field training soon four that'll be

[4:49:14] done within a month eight in the Academy

[4:49:17] of those eight seven of them are in our

[4:49:19] new Apprentice

[4:49:22] program we'll be and we could probably

[4:49:24] actually uh it'll be coming before the

[4:49:27] end of the year but we're going to get

[4:49:28] probably I think $3500 in revenue for

[4:49:32] those seven officers through this

[4:49:34] practice

[4:49:35] program great email just came out today

[4:49:38] so it's good it's a good program so it's

[4:49:41] helping us

[4:49:43] there what the retirement in the next

[4:49:45] year are there plans any I know three um

[4:49:50] right after New Year so one's talking

[4:49:52] January and one's talking February one's

[4:49:55] talking March so I know I have

[4:49:59] three Senor office anything

[4:50:03] else no crimes up

[4:50:06] 88.1% 12.3% compared to the 5year

[4:50:09] average that's the bad news the good

[4:50:12] well it's not bad news but it's not

[4:50:14] great um our shootings um we we've done

[4:50:18] such a great job with our give uh Grant

[4:50:21] um and our non-fatal shootings that I

[4:50:23] was invited to present at this uh

[4:50:26] International Chiefs of police

[4:50:27] conference coming up in two weeks in

[4:50:29] Buffalo Boston or Boston not bu

[4:50:32] definitely not Buffalo um so the state's

[4:50:35] going to be presenting and that and I

[4:50:36] I'll be representing uh a local police

[4:50:39] department with them doing that our

[4:50:41] shots fired are down 42% our shooting

[4:50:43] incidents are down 38% our shooting

[4:50:46] victims are down 33% and that number 33%

[4:50:50] is big but as of right now it's only 10

[4:50:53] people this year you know if we can keep

[4:50:55] it that low the rest of the year we'd

[4:50:57] like to but um the Outreach Hub our

[4:51:01] partnership with the county they've

[4:51:03] reached over 120 individuals year to

[4:51:05] date keeps getting stronger every year

[4:51:08] they'll they they'll be presenting at

[4:51:10] the party conference uh next year early

[4:51:12] next year the work that they've been

[4:51:14] doing there so you know a lot of good

[4:51:16] work being done by our officers rsro

[4:51:19] program school resource officers

[4:51:22] certainly paid dividends early this year

[4:51:24] with the incidents that they had having

[4:51:27] that structure in place I believe kept

[4:51:29] it controlled they're also very

[4:51:31] beneficial this summer protecting our new pool um when things started

[4:51:36] going a little crazy there we had our

[4:51:38] officers there working every day and I

[4:51:40] think get helped helped having their

[4:51:42] presence there they do everybody so uh I

[4:51:44] think it was a good summer overall so

[4:51:47] worked out

[4:51:50] well go ahead please so um so you said

[4:51:54] overall Prime was up but but I know that

[4:51:57] so you use that Global term but in terms

[4:51:59] of different part you know different

[4:52:01] part categor part one part two and all

[4:52:04] that stuff and then then there's this

[4:52:07] thing where govern article today that

[4:52:09] said that our SHO shoting are down 42%

[4:52:13] based on state

[4:52:14] data so can you just tell us where since

[4:52:17] there's a rise where is the where is

[4:52:19] that riseing crime the rise I mentioned

[4:52:21] is part one crime so we're talking the

[4:52:23] assaults the robberies the um the laries

[4:52:28] burglaries that that's what went up but

[4:52:30] she is right that shootings are down and

[4:52:32] that's why our shots fired are down

[4:52:34] actually 42% shooting incidents are down

[4:52:37] 38% shooting victims down 33% because

[4:52:40] we've been focusing so much on guns and

[4:52:43] shootings um we've been putting a lot of

[4:52:45] effort into that Statewide we have

[4:52:48] through this initiative so that we've

[4:52:50] been receiving positives from as a

[4:52:52] result of that and I think are the two

[4:52:55] highest increases burglaries and arenes

[4:52:58] were the two highest increases I that

[4:52:59] include them stealing my Amazon package

[4:53:01] that would be that would be one

[4:53:03] [Music]

[4:53:06] iort that that will be another

[4:53:08] initiative that we will be working on

[4:53:11] um uh is a organized retail crime we're

[4:53:16] working with the state police on that

[4:53:17] but we're also going to be doing

[4:53:18] something ourselves working on that a

[4:53:21] lot of people a lot of individuals are

[4:53:22] out there stealing from our businesses

[4:53:24] and selling them to our other businesses

[4:53:27] oh which are hugely high crime areas so

[4:53:31] we'll be focusing on that it

[4:53:33] disappointed when they myage I think but

[4:53:36] I just wanted to to add the comment you

[4:53:38] said the just realized what you said I'm

[4:53:42] sorry about the SRO I just want to add

[4:53:44] to that I know that you said that it's

[4:53:46] because the offers of the school but I

[4:53:47] have I have to tell you I was there for

[4:53:49] the lockdown and the safety team is a

[4:53:52] great part of what happens because

[4:53:53] there's more safety team members than

[4:53:55] there areos they definitely work

[4:53:57] together but part of that is that safety

[4:53:59] team they have in place which are

[4:54:01] civilians who are from the community

[4:54:03] that people know Etc and so on because

[4:54:05] when I was when I was when I was in the

[4:54:07] room in lockdown the SRO said they oh

[4:54:10] I'm sorry they're called CEOs

[4:54:13] yes right had been there earlier but

[4:54:16] they' left so all of the management of

[4:54:19] what was going on in that cafeteria was

[4:54:20] done by the safety team and and um other

[4:54:23] members of the administration so I just

[4:54:25] wanted to make sure that they work in

[4:54:27] conjunction but they play a great role

[4:54:29] in

[4:54:31] that that can you briefly just talk a

[4:54:35] little bit I mean I've been getting more

[4:54:37] calls um about

[4:54:39] panhandlers um and I know the Hub is you

[4:54:42] know really trying

[4:54:44] to work on that um but yeah I I mean I

[4:54:49] you know I'll just give you one example

[4:54:51] my most recent call was um someone who

[4:54:56] wanted me to put out legis said I know

[4:55:00] we prevent panhandling in the street but

[4:55:02] can you put out some legislation to

[4:55:04] prevent it on the sidewalk and I was

[4:55:06] just like well you know sidewalk Street

[4:55:08] I mean they're going to just be in the

[4:55:10] air I mean like where are they supposed

[4:55:11] to go but I'm but I'm just thinking you

[4:55:14] know what what can we for me I feel like

[4:55:17] it's like that bigger issue of poverty

[4:55:20] and so you know what do we do to support

[4:55:23] our organizations that are working on

[4:55:25] anti-poverty initiatives but I I just

[4:55:27] wanted to because I'm hearing it more

[4:55:29] and more so I just wanted to get your

[4:55:31] take no doubt that it's a problem it's a

[4:55:33] problem it's scates problem in every

[4:55:36] Community I saw there C Parks huge yes I

[4:55:40] saw yeah the aggressive the aggressive

[4:55:42] legislation roer B that passed it also

[4:55:46] so it's um you know there certainly a

[4:55:48] problem The Hub is is addressing it

[4:55:51] although there are uh we were told this

[4:55:53] morning at our compat meeting this

[4:55:55] morning right been a long day um uh that

[4:55:59] uh there's five individuals out there

[4:56:00] that are no longer uh interested in any

[4:56:03] work from The Hub so if they do

[4:56:04] something we will be arresting them so

[4:56:05] we're trying not to arrest first but we

[4:56:08] will arrest if we have to they're

[4:56:10] aggressive and we know there's

[4:56:12] aggressive individuals out there it's

[4:56:14] just a matter of they move around so we

[4:56:16] have to be able to catch them in the app

[4:56:18] and doing it which is difficult when

[4:56:20] everything else is going on but it's a problem that we we recognize and

[4:56:25] we're working on is there anything that

[4:56:27] we can be should be doing or and your I

[4:56:30] know shoulds a hard word but I mean do

[4:56:33] you have advice for us as a council

[4:56:35] should we be thinking about any

[4:56:36] legislation

[4:56:38] or I mean think about it and let us know

[4:56:41] but so I know there was a local

[4:56:43] municipality that put out language

[4:56:45] paraphrasing since was like don't get

[4:56:46] money to the homeless and as you can

[4:56:48] imagine that language just did not sit

[4:56:50] well C MERS of the community absolutely

[4:56:52] what I would say is s accting is very

[4:56:54] resource Rich so my wife's a social

[4:56:56] worker and IID say Mr manini can

[4:56:58] probably speak to some of that a lot of

[4:57:00] the individuals after conversations with

[4:57:02] U City Mission director Mr sosio he's

[4:57:05] like there are individuals that are

[4:57:06] seeking certain like behaviors that they

[4:57:09] aren't willing to accept within their

[4:57:11] facilities so in those conversations

[4:57:14] that I'm interacting with people I'm

[4:57:15] directing them either to the thda house

[4:57:18] C Mission and instances they're

[4:57:20] disregarding it and that's their

[4:57:22] prerogative but essentially each time a

[4:57:25] resident gives the money that reinforces

[4:57:28] the reason that they stay out there so

[4:57:30] it's just an

[4:57:31] unfortunate outcome and I was speaking

[4:57:35] was a police officer I'm pretty sure I

[4:57:36] was speaking to that there's a there's a

[4:57:38] particular there's like this high Archy

[4:57:40] among the homeless I just learned this

[4:57:42] what you are you a president there I was

[4:57:44] not but recently heard this this is

[4:57:47] hierarchy and there's this couple who um

[4:57:50] they frequent Broadway and

[4:57:52] state and um and when they're there

[4:57:55] nobody else comes because you know

[4:57:57] they're but they also turn down any help

[4:58:01] because they're making so much money on

[4:58:03] the corner well I I mean I've heard a

[4:58:05] similar story from one of our officers

[4:58:08] who there's an organization that was

[4:58:11] giving out tents and and sleeping bags

[4:58:14] and so folks weren't wanting to for

[4:58:16] example leave Veil park because they

[4:58:19] were okay they had a tent and sleeping

[4:58:21] bag and as far as they were concerned

[4:58:24] you know they were kind of set um

[4:58:27] so almost it's like the organization was

[4:58:29] kind of

[4:58:30] enabling this to continue so I don't

[4:58:33] know I I I that was sort of eye opening

[4:58:35] for me you know having had a long career

[4:58:38] in a nonprofit and that kind of thing

[4:58:41] but um I was kind of like you know maybe

[4:58:43] we're doing that was too much do you

[4:58:45] know what I mean helping um I don't know

[4:58:49] but I just don't know what we should do

[4:58:51] what we should be

[4:58:52] doing Chief you mentioned that that

[4:58:54] crime is up % um was that a 12 months

[4:58:57] data or 6 months uh 8% um it's up 8

[4:59:02] point uh 88.1% part one crime up

[4:59:06] 8.1% and that is year to date um and and

[4:59:10] then the

[4:59:12] 12.3 I'm sorry 88.1% up compared to this

[4:59:16] time last

[4:59:17] [Music]

[4:59:18] year compared to 10 ones last

[4:59:21] year October 23 October 24 is that

[4:59:25] comparison and then the 12.3 is compared

[4:59:27] to a 5year

[4:59:29] average uh if I can segue go ahead

[4:59:31] please I think it's important to kind of

[4:59:33] dispel either misinformation or just

[4:59:35] misinterpretations of information so I

[4:59:37] know we had a very contingent overtime

[4:59:40] discussion in the last budget cycle is

[4:59:43] any of that related in your response to

[4:59:45] Public Safety or in this increasing

[4:59:48] crime in those specific

[4:59:51] Parts no I

[4:59:53] mean we we haven't changed our operation

[4:59:56] based on what happened last year and

[4:59:59] uh the the unfortunate thing is that we

[5:00:03] have officers that are working very hard

[5:00:06] every day and they're getting burn out

[5:00:08] so we probably had more openings for

[5:00:10] over time that we've had volunteers to

[5:00:12] work it um but we recognize the budget

[5:00:15] is tight this year and we started

[5:00:17] scaling it back and we're starting to

[5:00:19] fill the shifts now because we're we're offering out less in anticipation

[5:00:23] of a tight year so but um up to this

[5:00:27] point it had had an effect on it but we

[5:00:30] should see a shift because of the the

[5:00:32] Staffing capacity right now so we should

[5:00:34] see a shift because that's what you know

[5:00:36] we mentioned over the last couple years

[5:00:38] that um High offic would help to ease

[5:00:41] the baren only over time and fill all

[5:00:43] the shifts and I was good de you're

[5:00:45] doing that

[5:00:46] appreciate Public Safety would not

[5:00:48] suffer by your tightening up these

[5:00:51] you're not putting it out there I mean

[5:00:54] you're still out there time last year we

[5:00:56] got nine out of the Academy I think we

[5:00:58] left we lost a couple of the

[5:01:00] retirements and then we um and then

[5:01:03] we're going to be

[5:01:04] getting I think we got 99 so I think

[5:01:07] we've actually probably netted about 15

[5:01:10] officers on the street since this time

[5:01:11] last year that's awesome and then we

[5:01:13] will again we'll be getting another four

[5:01:15] soon another four in a month and then we

[5:01:18] have eight in the academy but that won't

[5:01:19] be until May next may we see see a

[5:01:23] difference with them so that's great and

[5:01:24] by then we'll have probably another four

[5:01:26] or

[5:01:27] five we have three by for sure yeah good

[5:01:31] stff good stff good and I'm sure you

[5:01:33] have um things in place to address the

[5:01:36] part one we do please we do yeah we we

[5:01:41] focus on what's what's spiking and right

[5:01:43] now assaults and laries are spiking

[5:01:45] burglar are spiking it's that time of

[5:01:47] the year so we're we're actually looking

[5:01:50] at um our assaults as possibly being

[5:01:53] over

[5:01:54] reported U or somebody will call in say

[5:01:57] I was assaulted so that'll be the way

[5:01:59] it's categorized and we'll get out there

[5:02:01] turns out that they were just slapped in

[5:02:03] the face so it was a harass we might be

[5:02:07] over so we have to look at that bad it

[5:02:11] does like what what constitutes

[5:02:13] assault has has to have physical

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[5:02:33] injury no hold a question I would you

[5:02:36] able to say specifically which um

[5:02:38] neighborhood these CRI

[5:02:41] yes yeah our hotpots have not changed

[5:02:44] that much

[5:02:46] so they primarily been the same um

[5:02:49] Central stage Street Grandy wine area um

[5:02:53] veale neighborhood you

[5:02:55] know pockets of M Pleasant most our

[5:02:58] house actually M Pleasant got pool for a

[5:03:00] while I think Eastern Avenue popped up

[5:03:02] but now it's start so once that please

[5:03:05] close down any other question if not

[5:03:07] we'll move to Capital pleas Department

[5:03:11] there are two

[5:03:12] items the two uh the vehicles um we

[5:03:17] request actually I don't have my most

[5:03:18] recent one here you go SUV uh two SUV

[5:03:22] for patrol that would be uh the hybrid

[5:03:25] and the three hybrid sedans would be for

[5:03:28] our detective Division and three hybrid

[5:03:31] Vans or um some sort of smaller SUV for

[5:03:35] our evidence

[5:03:37] technicians and then the Drone radar

[5:03:40] it would be uh to increase so we don't

[5:03:43] have to have visual observers the chief

[5:03:45] mentioned earlier but it would be uh

[5:03:47] technology that be put in place so that

[5:03:50] the anything that's flying from a drone

[5:03:53] to the biggest airplane out there would

[5:03:56] be caught on like a on radar it's like

[5:03:58] the radar screen that you see um you to

[5:04:00] see on the TV shows um you would see

[5:04:03] actually where it is in the city and

[5:04:05] you'll see a picture of it as well so

[5:04:07] it'd be manned and unmanned aircraft to

[5:04:10] show up um on it and that would be a

[5:04:13] requirement from the FAA in order to get

[5:04:17] the get be online site so you do not

[5:04:19] need a visual Observer at all so so in

[5:04:22] addition to helping us with our drone as

[5:04:24] a first responding program it would also

[5:04:26] provide uh safety to our community for

[5:04:29] people drop flying drones that could be

[5:04:30] harmful so especially during special

[5:04:32] events we would know if a a drone shows

[5:04:35] up um that could possibly harm somebody

[5:04:38] so that it's got that add feure to well

[5:04:41] any

[5:04:42] question go ahead so buy eight more

[5:04:45] Vehicles this year how many we buy last

[5:04:48] so we didn't buy any at all in sorry so

[5:04:52] right now we're trying to buy uh the

[5:04:54] capital that you guys provided last year

[5:04:56] was for seven

[5:04:58] SUVs uh

[5:05:01] two DD Vehicles one ASV vehicle and S so

[5:05:06] band so last year was I believe it's 11

[5:05:09] vehicles that we haven't bought yet that

[5:05:11] were in the process of purchasing the

[5:05:13] money became available in May and they

[5:05:16] were um Avail a few different options

[5:05:18] for purchases Leasing and some other

[5:05:21] things and it was determined not to go

[5:05:23] that way so uh we're working with

[5:05:25] Finance now purchasing to work on

[5:05:28] getting the vehicles so the 11 from last

[5:05:30] year were just buying and then this is

[5:05:33] addition eight this is uh eight yes and when we

[5:05:41] money come into May after so you have to

[5:05:44] wait

[5:05:47] until and then once we the two vehicles

[5:05:50] the the police vehicles those so right

[5:05:53] now we're ordering them in may they come

[5:05:55] in or I'm sorry if we order them now

[5:05:57] they come in January to February and

[5:05:59] then after that then it takes usually

[5:06:01] another two to three months to get them

[5:06:02] upfitted so it's a

[5:06:05] constant struggle down the road I mean

[5:06:07] it's these are forecasted out several

[5:06:09] years and the vehicles that we're

[5:06:10] driving right now will be replaced by

[5:06:12] these

[5:06:14] vehicles what kind of money do we get

[5:06:16] for trading yeah usually we don't trade

[5:06:19] them usually it's uh they go to the

[5:06:21] scrapyard so I think last year we

[5:06:24] scrapped four of them I believe and I

[5:06:25] think we got4

[5:06:27] or500 sometimes we pass them on

[5:06:29] throughout the city L we pass them to

[5:06:31] other departments instead of purchasing

[5:06:33] vehic sometimes they don't you Au

[5:06:36] them yes police yes so we we just had an

[5:06:40] auction throughout the summer we

[5:06:42] actually cleaned out our Police

[5:06:43] Department of like everything we

[5:06:45] possibly could our our ASB team I me I

[5:06:48] love those they're awesome um I think we

[5:06:50] took in like 26 or $27,000 just if it

[5:06:53] wasn't bolted down we didn't need it it

[5:06:55] went the

[5:06:59] auction there was no cars there's cars waiting to go now I

[5:07:04] believe is less this year normal

[5:07:09] [Music]

[5:07:11] oh yeah Capital

[5:07:12] request seem to be less than was last

[5:07:15] year I believe our total for our two two

[5:07:17] numbers our car requested to drop down

[5:07:19] and we didn't uh last year we had um

[5:07:22] some s or SOS gear and something else

[5:07:26] it's actually not and we typically ask

[5:07:28] for some some kind of computers for

[5:07:31] Capital request but we got the grant

[5:07:33] this year PA form so

[5:07:37] we are there any other question

[5:07:40] [Music]

[5:07:41] if not thank you so

[5:07:43] [Music]

[5:07:45] much

[5:07:48] work

[5:07:49] um tomorrow our meeting

[5:07:55] continue we will meet with department at

[5:07:57] streets sow ice Property Management

[5:08:00] Facility parks

[5:08:02] pools waste collection disposal recycle

[5:08:06] water at sewer fund engineer

[5:08:10] and capital budget if there's nothing El

[5:08:13] ask a motion to recess until tomorrow

[5:08:15] 5:30 p.m. so second all in favor thank

[5:08:19] you good night have a

[5:08:24] goodn you

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[5:08:36] sorry oh boy she just have to be here

[5:08:39] [Music]

[5:08:40] does she oh she was she was being I

[5:08:42] think she was

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[5:08:54] represen do we have to do anything with

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[5:09:07] this thank you everybody

[5:09:10] have a good

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[5:09:13] night what

[5:09:15] left it's going to be pajamas for

[5:09:20] [Music]

[5:09:25] me we'll have tomorrow thank you put it

[5:09:29] in you and put it in a folder it

[5:09:37] I excuse me sorry

[5:09:41] I

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[5:09:56] think come

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Schenectady City Council Budget Meeting, October 9, 2024

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