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[1:44] so hearing discussion regarding general

[1:48] service and that comprise of Street snow

[1:51] and ice Property Management Facility

[1:54] parts and pools waste collection

[1:57] disposal and recycle water so

[2:01] engineering and capital

[2:04] budget we'll start with um engineering

[2:08] um this

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[2:14] evening we got Mr whole evening last

[2:20] yesterday so we'll go to page um 10 10

[2:25] and 11

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[2:45] I got to use my old my not all right

[2:48] we're first going to work with at Public

[2:50] Works

[2:54] a1140 Public Works admin increased by

[2:57] 2.44% very marginal increase

[3:00] engineering Construction and design

[3:03] a441 engineering construction design

[3:06] increased by

[3:07] 35.8% that's mostly to a removal of

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[3:20] a this also comprise page 12 also 10 11

[3:25] and 12 typ of 12

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[3:36] any question for Mr w

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[4:02] just his overview yeah yeah so um you

[4:06] just want to give us a highlight what's

[4:08] happening in Department anything we need

[4:09] to know to

[4:12] cap the biggest thing that we're waiting

[4:14] on is we just got the list for an

[4:17] ips3 um we had an ips3 last year and uh

[4:22] for only matter of months it was really

[4:25] nice to have the ips4 with the ips3 um

[4:28] the ips3

[4:30] uh ended up taking an internal promotion

[4:33] um which was great for her but then when

[4:36] she was promoted we had the vacancy and

[4:38] the test came out test came out in March

[4:41] we was waiting and we just got the list

[4:42] a couple weeks ago so we're working with

[4:45] um K and MaryAnn on what the list is

[4:49] eligible for and working on that that's

[4:51] the big that would be the big get if we

[4:53] could actually replace and fill that

[4:55] because as a lot of you know a lot of

[4:58] the work that we do because of the

[4:59] grants and contracts is just paperwork

[5:02] so there is a lot of paperwork that goes

[5:04] into doing all these projects so having

[5:06] that ips3 uh in engineering would be

[5:09] great um otherwise everything is pretty

[5:12] much status quo we have maintenance

[5:15] contracts in here so we pay for the bike

[5:17] share and some of the other smaller

[5:19] contracts sign rental on 890 things like

[5:22] that come out here so that's all status

[5:24] and then

[5:26] um fees for service line that's how I

[5:28] pay for engineering consultants for

[5:31] smaller projects ms4 work things like

[5:33] that so that's why that should remain

[5:35] because that's a un necessary thing

[5:37] especially now that there's new ms4

[5:39] requirements that are pretty stringent

[5:42] so and then the only other thing is the

[5:44] on my budget it's blue right it's not

[5:47] going to be blue it's not blue anymore so that was that

[5:50] was just something that I wanted to make

[5:52] sure it was

[5:54] clear the the position is still there

[5:56] it's just the funding is not from from

[5:58] the blue corre correct from

[6:00] our go ahead please the ips3 um where

[6:04] which um does it go under um Public

[6:07] Works admin or engineer it's not on here

[6:09] at all it's a1440

[6:14] 100 oh okay it's in here yes oh

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[6:21] okay any other

[6:23] questions see none we'll go into capital

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[6:35] so Capital this year um could go from

[6:38] top to bottom first one we had is the uh

[6:41] small Harbor Docks the large vessel

[6:43] docks um we've identified a gap in the

[6:46] funding given that the CFA grants that

[6:48] we had were essentially preo everything

[6:51] from preo has increased in price um and

[6:55] so there's a lot of compens to that and

[6:57] the docks are quite large uh compared to

[7:00] other things in the area so this is

[7:03] a I'm sorry this this is uh funding to

[7:08] uh to make up that Gap um try to make

[7:11] sure that maybe the title Anthony one of

[7:14] the things I just want to make sure with

[7:15] the title for it is that flexible um

[7:18] just because if we if we don't use all

[7:21] of that 750 I would hate to have have to

[7:24] buy another dock or something I know how

[7:26] we do something where it's you know

[7:28] infrastructure or something that

[7:31] change yeah I I just we we an older way

[7:34] that we used to haveen is that when we

[7:35] used to bond money for streets we would

[7:37] Bond it with the street name and then we

[7:40] were kind of stuck in having that street

[7:42] with that money even though we had needs

[7:45] in other areas so we're just trying if

[7:47] you know this is worst case scenario if

[7:50] we you know if it comes in at 500

[7:53] $400,000 paid to have a balance sitting

[7:55] in a capital code that says docks

[7:58] because we don't have docks

[8:00] um Street improvements this is a little

[8:03] bit higher than normal um but the reason

[8:06] that we're doing this is because this is

[8:08] I'm hoping to have a flexible fund next

[8:10] year we have several very large projects

[8:13] happening and I really need some

[8:15] flexibility when it comes to financing

[8:17] next year we're starting our Craig

[8:19] Street project we are starting our

[8:21] Franklin Street project we're also

[8:23] hoping to start our J Street connector

[8:26] which is our project connect City Hall

[8:29] to m Harbor um specifically the J

[8:32] conector Project um we would need bonded

[8:35] money to pay for our share of that which

[8:37] is to be determined um since it isn't an

[8:40] existing Road it's hard to use other

[8:42] forms that we typically do because it's

[8:44] a brand new street so that's why usually

[8:47] this is

[8:48] 1.5 uh I asked I'm asking to make it

[8:52] 2.5 um the tennis courts that we see

[8:54] here um this is to not renovate but

[8:58] replace um the upper eight tennis courts

[9:02] with nine new pre-cast concrete

[9:04] pretention concrete tennis courts um we

[9:07] have a verbal agreement with the USA

[9:10] that if we make this investment of $2

[9:12] million they will contribute an

[9:13] additional million wow so that is a a

[9:18] verbal agreement that we have in place

[9:19] with them if we're going to move forward

[9:20] with this and then the general facility

[9:23] improvements um some of these are are

[9:26] smaller but they add up which is we

[9:28] really have been talking with the fire

[9:30] department about removing all their

[9:32] carpet um we no longer want carpet in

[9:35] areas like a fire department it's just

[9:37] uh traps for bacteria and things like

[9:39] that they're coming in and out of the so

[9:42] we really want clean uh disinfectable

[9:44] surfaces in those areas um the chief uh

[9:51] approach me about generators at stations

[9:53] 3 and four stations 3 and four do not

[9:56] have generators and we did replace their

[9:58] doors with uh new uh doors and the issue

[10:02] with the doors just getting is you might

[10:04] see a door that has a chain and the door

[10:05] goes up the new style door because they

[10:08] go up is a screw and it it takes a

[10:11] little while so to manually open that

[10:13] door you're literally turning a screw on

[10:15] and so they really would like to see

[10:17] generators at the stations uh I thought

[10:19] that was a good request um PD building

[10:22] control upgrades that is literally a

[10:24] computer system just to try to get that

[10:27] system by we use a seen control Network

[10:30] it hasn't been updated I don't think

[10:31] since

[10:32] 1992 um and it's on a computer that I

[10:36] can't believe still works the computer

[10:38] is very old and we're going to have to

[10:40] update that so that we can able to run

[10:42] the building systems and then uh lastly

[10:45] kind of related to that I'm asking for

[10:48] some money to start to design the

[10:50] replacement of the HVAC system at the

[10:53] police station we're anticipating that

[10:55] this could be upwards of $6 million

[10:57] project to replace the hbac system in

[11:00] the building um right now a part of last

[11:03] year's Capital we're looking at

[11:04] upgrading the electrical services um so

[11:08] if you were to go into the basement we

[11:10] have all of our panels uh for the SPD

[11:12] electrical the panels are no longer

[11:15] serviceable so if anything breaks on one

[11:18] panel we try to replace it with pieces

[11:20] of another panel and move things around

[11:22] because the panels are original to the

[11:24] building so this coming year we're

[11:27] looking to replace all those panels with

[11:28] Mod switch gear so that we have the

[11:30] ability to upgrade and then we're going

[11:32] to study the replacement of the hdac

[11:36] system um when I have those costs you

[11:39] know we can talk about it um you know

[11:42] I'm sure that the police chief would

[11:43] more than welcome a new station but this

[11:46] is what we have to decide on is because

[11:48] um that station you know it doesn't have

[11:51] operable Windows everybody's seeing the

[11:53] station is a very interesting uh thedes

[11:55] and Schmid design simil more to the

[11:56] library um and we just have to we have

[11:59] to upgrade and when we do that we have

[12:01] to bring things to code and the building

[12:04] certain things are not to code right now

[12:06] which is uh the boiler the chiller the

[12:10] air every single component in that

[12:12] building is a one giant room code would

[12:14] not allow you do that you can't have

[12:15] combustible air and cooling air and

[12:17] filtered air all the same room so if we

[12:19] bring this up as part of the cost if we

[12:21] have to actually split the mechanical

[12:23] room and start putting fresh air in

[12:25] certain areas for it so that's part of

[12:27] that design uh last on here is the

[12:30] hearing room we budgeted some money for

[12:32] it last year however you know our

[12:34] estimates are are higher for that this

[12:36] would give us approximately $1.5 million

[12:39] to put towards the hearing room which is

[12:40] also at the police station um part of

[12:43] this will be um funded this project will

[12:46] be funded by the

[12:47] courts anything that we improve within

[12:50] the existing courts footprint the courts

[12:53] will pay however this is an expansion uh

[12:56] we'll be taking over some holding cells

[12:58] and some office space and doing some

[13:00] Renovations so that expansion um is not

[13:04] paid for once it is expanded and they

[13:06] have uh under their lease agreement that

[13:09] new square footage that any improvements

[13:11] then going forward would be under uh

[13:14] their expenses to pay for so I'm I'm

[13:16] anticipating that um they're going to

[13:18] have it's probably going to be like a 66

[13:20] City 33 um State split but I don't have

[13:23] those numbers now we're still working I

[13:25] just had a meeting today with the chief

[13:27] uh and our architect we're going going

[13:29] to the sheriff's department and then the

[13:31] corrections office just to make sure

[13:33] everything has to be signed off before

[13:35] we move forward with any kind of

[13:38] big question so you go ahead talking

[13:40] about the Court's

[13:42] lease so if when this renovation happens

[13:45] and obviously that lease would be

[13:47] Revisited I imagine right yeah well the

[13:50] lease would be Revisited but really the

[13:52] only thing that would changed as far as

[13:54] I is that we they pay us per square

[13:56] footage of use okay um

[14:00] yeah so every time they take a little

[14:02] bit of space from City Hall over the

[14:04] police station we make sure that we

[14:06] account for that in our lease because

[14:07] they pay us for the maintenance and

[14:09] utilities and things like that based off

[14:11] of equations that they have so right now

[14:13] they aren't leasing the space but once

[14:15] they do take it you another approxim

[14:17] let's say, 1500 square ft then that,

[14:19] 1500 ft will go onto the lease and

[14:21] they'll start to pay us for the use of

[14:23] that space the the other benefit that

[14:26] this project will have is what we're

[14:28] hoping is right now if you go into the

[14:30] police station it feels like it's courts

[14:33] um and the police and the courts are

[14:34] like this and just because we're all you

[14:37] know one big happy family we're all

[14:39] getting along with that but really it's

[14:40] easier for us easier for the police if

[14:42] we separate it so one of the things that

[14:45] this would do is uh the police station

[14:47] has these four doors when you enter and

[14:49] it would split two and two now so that

[14:52] if you wanted to go to the police you

[14:54] would go to the right if you wanted to

[14:55] go to the courts you'd go to the left

[14:57] and then you would have uh barrier in

[14:59] between so that they're not so mixed up

[15:02] and I think that would

[15:05] help go ahead please um Mr did we um

[15:10] have in the ARA bu did we have money for

[15:13] H was it for the SPD no no for here we

[15:17] had it for here for here yes and we are

[15:19] doing that project that was already a

[15:21] work thank you yep we we had some money

[15:24] for tennis court we did we had 500 still

[15:29] we still do yes any other

[15:32] questions goe please on the uh courts

[15:37] the uh Mr wall is outline with the oca's

[15:41] position is I don't share that uh

[15:46] position the

[15:48] cells uh they say that they're only

[15:50] there for the police department we don't

[15:53] need them all the time sometimes they're

[15:55] there to hold uh individuals Court

[15:59] appearances and that that in fact should

[16:02] be treated as Court space which would

[16:06] shift the reimbursement

[16:08] formula so that's a point of contention

[16:11] that's there how much uh

[16:13] OCA uh would contribute to this and

[16:16] again some of this it's been a long

[16:19] standing uh concern of mind the inness

[16:22] and inefficiency within the courts

[16:25] where we shouldn't be doing any of this

[16:28] work they should be running the Night

[16:30] Court which would allow utilization of

[16:32] space uh double the capacity and keep it

[16:36] at a single cost uh they take some

[16:39] conduted theory on that that they can't

[16:42] work at night uh it's just

[16:47] foolish

[16:48] so were these numbers I think Mr Wall's

[16:51] outline are fair representations that

[16:54] they're still subject to

[16:56] negotiation and possible litigation

[17:01] and on the other thing upgrad to the

[17:03] tennis courts we've done music C and

[17:06] done the A and and stuff the tennis

[17:08] courts kind the swimming pool uh Council

[17:13] has on the books a fee structure for

[17:16] using the tennis courts you'll basically

[17:18] play for free there now uh there's

[17:21] utilization by Muna Muna School District

[17:25] that we have to tighten up and part of

[17:27] this budget is put in place

[17:29] a fee

[17:30] structure that uh again will be fair and

[17:36] we want to you know do these upgrades

[17:39] have the resources there and it's no

[17:42] different in the golf course you want

[17:44] you'll be able to use the golf course

[17:46] but you have to pay for

[17:51] it go ahead so with that would that

[17:54] include a staff person that we would

[17:55] have to um that would be in charge of

[17:58] the collecting the fees and maybe for

[18:00] the pool at the same time I don't know

[18:02] that might be a lot for one

[18:04] person that's a scenario there might be

[18:06] some automated systems or you buy uh

[18:10] seasonal pass and something that would

[18:13] scan it validate it uh be able to verify

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[18:20] it any other question from are we

[18:24] missing anything Capt everything St

[18:27] questions thank you so much ship all

[18:30] your team good

[18:34] work team

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[19:27] 13 so we'll start on page 13 and just

[19:30] flow

[19:31] through page 13 and we'll go down in

[19:35] order 14 start at 14

[19:42] no all right all yours we'll do one um

[19:48] time Property Management

[19:52] a621 marginal increase of 1.11% I know I don't have a lot to

[20:04] explain I think yeah you're

[20:06] not other than you know you have you had

[20:10] question on 1621 404 what's included in

[20:13] that line dat so much lower than

[20:16] anticipated um we do to pre removal

[20:20] custom control removal abandoned

[20:22] vehicles some of the tree um you bit out

[20:25] have not been received yet those you

[20:27] know those um bill are still out there

[20:30] so there is some those that come in

[20:31] later in the year um we do more more

[20:33] trees but that's what we that is what's

[20:37] in that line um Pest Control Pest

[20:40] Control now we are um invoicing the

[20:43] property for

[20:44] reimbursement um because in the past

[20:47] that was just a strict strictly a cost

[20:49] to the city um and now we are doing um

[20:53] reimbursements to the property owner um

[20:57] for the treat of whether it's whatever

[21:01] are thank

[21:03] you so since we here we talk about the

[21:07] snap crew up going to places that in

[21:11] violation of that cutting grasses like

[21:14] that are we um I know we in the past we

[21:17] charged a minimum fee are you looking to

[21:20] kind of up that charge the actual fee we

[21:23] charge the actual time and material so

[21:26] the hours of the employee that's there

[21:28] and equipment that's on site and then

[21:30] anything that is disposed of with a

[21:32] weight ticket for the transfer station

[21:34] or if it's got to go to the county so um

[21:37] we don't have a flat rate we charge

[21:39] based on TN okay perect

[21:45] thankes go ahead please I'd like to step

[21:47] back to the question on uh 82 81621 404

[21:52] uh right at 75,000 right now we're about

[21:54] almost about 15 145 so you're

[21:56] anticipating we're going to get 75 I

[22:00] don't know we're all we to 75 our trees

[22:02] go up to bid as people call in break

[22:04] complaints for trees we use two lines we

[22:06] use some of the park money we use some

[22:07] of the money depending on where the tree

[22:10] is we do have an agreement now with we

[22:13] have agre with na grid so some of the

[22:14] trees involve power lines or F lines

[22:17] they've been taking them down all we do

[22:18] is clean up um and the other thing is um

[22:22] we do have a a very good um experienced

[22:25] senior tree trimmer now so we are doing

[22:27] more in heal

[22:29] way more than we did before so

[22:33] um and he is the gentleman that would

[22:35] hopefully will pass this exam think the

[22:37] end of this month beginning November 4th

[22:39] and our so so we are seeing the savings

[22:43] there thank

[22:45] you any other question on for the

[22:49] section see now will move to a facility

[22:52] building and maintenance page 15 facil

[22:57] 81622 fail is increased by 8.67% and

[23:00] that's uh mostly due to the repair

[23:04] line I'm sorry the what line repairs oh

[23:08] thank

[23:09] you that's I just talking to our C

[23:11] engineer about he pulled somebody out for Capital do some repairs

[23:15] this year but between all the repairs

[23:18] between City Hall Bure service police

[23:21] supp stations um you know in discussions

[23:25] with Chris and how U we feel there's a

[23:27] lot of repairs that these facilities and

[23:29] 200,000 you know $1,000 is is going to

[23:33] be need for

[23:34] 25 now you know our our goal is not just

[23:38] to repair stuff but also maintain it

[23:40] right so you know we're buying

[23:42] purchasing through the that through that

[23:45] line

[23:47] and the build request I just brought

[23:51] forward Monday night for the glycol

[23:53] system that's getting pull out of

[23:55] capital walking right now through um

[23:57] facility that was $9,000 that's one

[23:59] repair at the police station it's

[24:02] $90,000 Bureau I'm

[24:05] sorry so they for the bureau City Hall

[24:08] and what else did you say everything

[24:09] fire stations All City own buildings

[24:11] okay okay I'll just put down City own

[24:14] building okay thank

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[24:17] you any other question for this

[24:21] section if not we'll move

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[24:26] to page

[24:29] 5 service

[24:37] Administration service Administration uh

[24:40] increased by

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[24:47] 6.61% there is no questions on this want

[24:50] any

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[24:53] questions just give a statement go ahead

[24:55] please the statement on line 850

[25:00] Z

[25:01] $3,000 all the way to the bottom last

[25:05] page

[25:07] 35

[25:09] Street That's Mike that's my street

[25:11] supervisor That's

[25:13] Mike just avoid calling me

[25:17] please for the sake of the public and

[25:20] you know people name out there we ask

[25:22] respectfully as so we do not mention

[25:24] names thank you other question go please

[25:29] 85 010141 the uniform and school

[25:32] allowance 750 what does that cover what

[25:37] the number please uh

[25:39] 5010 141 on top page

[25:44] 36 on the New budget or the old budget

[25:48] I'm I'm so I'm going by the one I had

[25:49] that marked up okay that's what I'm

[25:51] doing too

[25:54] okay those are the safety shoes that are

[25:56] required contractually the same he said

[25:59] three PA 250 or 250 P so this is just

[26:03] for three people yeah but everyone gets

[26:06] Bo everybody different items everybody yes all our all our play saf

[26:15] shoes so they get allowance just to be

[26:18] clear they get allowance but they don't

[26:19] always necessarily buy because sometimes

[26:22] I see them as neighbors oh I don't

[26:25] personally take them to the store but

[26:27] maybe we should give him a card that can

[26:30] use at the store um no but I mean really

[26:32] in terms of safety Sometimes using

[26:34] wearing sneakers and things is just not

[26:36] they for what they're doing out there I

[26:38] won't I don't disagree with you and just

[26:42] follow should we make them mandatory

[26:43] that they should

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[26:50] have it is it's in their contract that

[26:53] they are required to get them safety

[26:55] boots and if you're paying for safety

[26:57] boots as their employ

[26:58] we would expect them to wear the safy

[27:00] boosts to avoid any

[27:03] accidents and you know it's it's a daily thing your safety boots on and

[27:09] then starting to send people home to go

[27:11] get their safety boots and delaying the

[27:12] whole work day but yes I'm not going to

[27:14] disagree when it comes to safety they

[27:16] should have their safety boots

[27:20] onely yes and it's not just cuz I I know

[27:23] when we look at it I see think most

[27:25] people we see with their sneakers are

[27:27] know where call division but this rule

[27:30] has to be um you know enforced all the

[27:32] way across the board from the water

[27:34] wells the wastewater treatment plant to

[27:36] water sewer streets snap

[27:39] Parks if you get a boot of

[27:43] Ls you should have a pair of boots on

[27:46] yes agree something we can work

[27:52] on thank

[27:54] you um I have a question about the the

[27:57] stien for the street supervisor uh we

[28:00] had a discussion last evening about a

[28:01] stien for the city clerk um who who we

[28:05] put that stien up under her salary as a

[28:08] line up under it the clerk's salary as a

[28:11] line what's the difference here the

[28:14] $5,000 so why does the sement

[28:17] stay there's other sement too within the

[28:20] contract I don't know these St have been

[28:23] there it's not the same it's different

[28:26] because uh being the

[28:29] registar is as we defin with the law is

[28:34] a salary and not part of the typ and

[28:36] that's the difference now the S is for

[28:40] uh is being register and the typen like

[28:43] for this position or the other positions

[28:46] are you know working at night uh taking

[28:49] phone calls coming in in the evenings

[28:51] work in the evenings that's what s this

[28:53] before right I thought that's what the

[28:55] stien for the city clerk was because

[28:57] they were we

[28:58] for being a reg which

[29:01] is separate title correct yeah and Main

[29:05] m m you have that on paper so can I

[29:08] highlight is can you share that with the

[29:10] council please any other question for

[29:13] Street

[29:15] Maintenance if not we'll move to

[29:18] um mechanical equipment

[29:21] garage p37

[29:24] [Music]

[29:28] 5132 yes you want to skip skip yeah yeah

[29:32] we didn't do

[29:36] street we did have those CH

[29:40] 85110 increased by

[29:43] 2% U if you look at the interior theary

[29:47] uh increas uh approximately

[29:54] 50,000 and this was the last night where

[29:58] the AR line the amount changed you see

[30:02] that you see the new

[30:05] one so there are two two uh being funded

[30:09] by

[30:10] correct

[30:12] yes any question but that had to drop

[30:14] down that was the

[30:17] right

[30:19] correct so come down

[30:24] 13152 yes that's correct there

[30:29] than any question on the section if not

[30:33] we'll V to page 37

[30:37] [Music]

[30:40] garage mechanical equipment garage

[30:42] increased by 1.4%

[30:58] you want to highlight this no I mean

[30:59] there just minor increases I me if you

[31:01] look in the um in the uh motor vehicle

[31:05] repair line the 5152

[31:08] 462 you know um from 23 it dropped from

[31:12] a million mil 71,000 to 990 stay St just

[31:17] higher ticket items um repair parts are

[31:20] coming up a little bit there 15,000

[31:22] added for parts just to the this parts

[31:24] for vehicles are getting more and more

[31:25] expensive and there just 15 ,000 jump in

[31:29] few

[31:31] anticipating going up it's not you know

[31:36] not a big

[31:39] Jump part my heads myself first one

[31:42] spent a lot of time going through these

[31:44] budgets to make them as tight as we can

[31:46] as accurate as we

[31:50] can that's my go ahead please U so is

[31:53] this the where we last year we had the

[31:56] discussion about the mechanic that we

[31:57] add just where this is yes who this

[32:00] individual is is here is um so a513

[32:05] 2121 the Master Mechanic is that no he

[32:08] is

[32:08] [Music]

[32:10] the he's mechanic

[32:14] one motor equipment oper

[32:17] mechanic

[32:21] P was

[32:23] hir months months ago so he didn't get

[32:28] hired not like at the beginning of the

[32:30] year no no we didn't find one at the

[32:32] beginning of the year um he was hired

[32:34] when about two and a half months ago

[32:36] maybe three months ago he was

[32:39] hired so we had to get a lift also I beg

[32:42] you pardon we had to get a lift for the

[32:44] gentleman to work with that was in last

[32:46] year's budget also so was ordered was in

[32:49] so he he is working he just getting a

[32:52] feel for things and then eventually he

[32:54] will move to an off shift but our our shift will be changing in a little

[32:59] more than a month because we normally

[33:00] break our shifts um usually the first

[33:02] Monday of December is when we go to the winter

[33:07] schedule after that he will be trained

[33:10] well enough where he will work on the

[33:11] second shift um but we're getting a lot

[33:14] more ACC with him a lot more of the what

[33:16] we'll call basic maintenance oil changes

[33:19] Tire Replacements um lights uh and this

[33:22] is what we needed somebody for to do

[33:24] some of the just a normal regular

[33:27] maintenance items on the trucks so we're

[33:30] not sending them out pardon so we're not

[33:32] sending them out as these little things

[33:35] it's another it's another body in the

[33:37] shop it's getting done to get the trucks

[33:39] back on the road

[33:41] quicker and then go to the night shift

[33:43] correct and so the first seven months of

[33:45] the year we just that money we really

[33:47] recapture goes back to the we money in

[33:49] the budget we didn't spend it it's it's

[33:51] in the salary line it's still there okay

[33:54] thank you go ahead please uh the city is

[33:56] definitely taking uh

[33:58] measures with purchasing more EV

[33:59] vehicles have you noticed any negative

[34:02] effects of Maintenance or have those

[34:04] costs the EV vles we have right now are

[34:06] fairly new the where we see a little bit

[34:09] of a delay is in the older um Chevy Vols they juston that so parts are

[34:16] not as regularly available so um we

[34:19] don't we don't work on electric vehicles

[34:21] we just not qualify to work so the

[34:24] electric Fels do have to go out to the dealerships so uh and we're at

[34:29] Comm Mery the availability parts so you

[34:31] know the parts not available you

[34:33] unfortunately the vehicle will sit there

[34:35] so the newer Vehicles we are not seeing

[34:38] the bolts and you know these vehicle are

[34:42] older you know BTS if they just they

[34:45] don't produce no more MH thank you

[34:48] they've also just discontinued the bolt

[34:50] after we

[34:52] invested the B's gone the Bolt's

[34:56] gone go ahead just correct me from WR

[34:58] but wasn't there some Federal grant

[35:00] money around our EV Vehicles purchased

[35:03] or

[35:05] no there's grant money we have purchased

[35:09] under grants right with grants or

[35:12] subsidized

[35:16] rebates 26,000 there is some money for

[35:20] large larger

[35:21] Vehicles

[35:23] there any other question for

[35:26] garage if not we'll move to page 39 snow

[35:30] and

[35:32] ice snow and ice

[35:36] 85142 Red by 13.92% from 1, 85,000

[35:41] approximately to

[35:45] 934 I'm sorry was what was the decrease

[35:49] percent I'm sorry 13.92% thank

[35:53] you questions any you want to talk about highlight oh

[35:59] just the you know the two still a

[36:02] smaller budget but the two two biggest

[36:05] reductions were the um fees for services

[36:09] and the um Road materials um based on

[36:12] what we spent this year for Road

[36:13] materials and what we have for salt in

[36:17] the um salt shed right now we're

[36:20] confident that we'll get through 25 with

[36:22] what we have in the budget in 934 500

[36:25] and these are service covers uh are

[36:28] private contractors personal f um the

[36:30] loaders that are have vs of their

[36:34] own and that's all that's it we do have

[36:37] the same rate but that's we have they we

[36:41] kept the rate the same as last year and

[36:43] yes okay good perfect any other go ahead

[36:46] please just out of curiosity how many do

[36:49] we have like private we had any 21 every storm or a certain amount of

[36:56] storm they they they're there on site

[36:58] they're brought in um different parts of

[37:00] the City

[37:02] View the North End um so the equipment

[37:05] is already there ready so when they're

[37:07] called for General P great those drivers

[37:10] come in we don't have to wait for them

[37:12] to get the here because takes hours

[37:15] sometimes these are not machines you're

[37:16] just going to bring quickly so these

[37:17] machines are sitting in different places

[37:20] within the city and the routes are

[37:21] already established with the contractors

[37:23] so they know where they have to go they

[37:25] give them their machines they fuel them

[37:26] we don't provide fuel or anything um and

[37:29] they do their wants thank

[37:33] you go ahead do do you think that the

[37:35] 250 is going to be enough I know that

[37:38] the year to date I feel like the year to

[37:40] date when I like 239 I know no snow I

[37:46] would love no snow I mean it's you know

[37:49] it's a guess with the weather yeah I

[37:50] mean the one year um we all know what

[37:53] happened when we had the 30 some Ines we

[37:55] spent that LST was million do we can't

[37:59] anticipate and just budget because we

[38:01] think something may come um you know if

[38:04] uh we have a year like we did last year

[38:07] we should be fine yeah

[38:10] okay there's two aspects of it one is

[38:13] big storms or a lot of little storms we

[38:16] have 4 in 4 in 5

[38:20] in you got to mobilize

[38:23] everything and our bigger storms we

[38:25] involve we do have to go out is you we

[38:27] have the loaders that pushing the snow

[38:29] we have a storm like we did you know a

[38:30] few years ago now we have to go in snow

[38:32] removal so now we're hiring dump trucks

[38:34] to on top of it the hall snow and then

[38:37] that's when you know um you know they're

[38:39] running 24 hours to get the streets

[38:40] cleared because there's no way to push

[38:42] the snow another snor St comes in so

[38:46] it's not just for the loaders you know

[38:48] it's everything else running around the

[38:49] clock and our guys usually run around

[38:51] the clock

[38:52] and at the same time on the same subject

[38:56] uh complian is is Big where you have

[38:58] like the onesie TWY cars that are

[39:00] blocking the plows from being efficient

[39:02] has that been an issue that you've

[39:03] noticed or have residents been

[39:05] responsive to efforts of like

[39:08] no I've been around for 45 years I

[39:11] started in the street in

[39:13] 1979 there a lot of different falling

[39:15] snow back there we didn't have a 10

[39:16] wheeler dump truck we had six whe dump

[39:18] trucks we didn't have Wing blades okay

[39:21] um but there was a lot less cars park

[39:24] people nowadays every family member in

[39:26] the family has car nobody uses the

[39:29] driveway because when somebody wants to

[39:30] get out he looks outside or she looks

[39:32] out says I got to move five cars to get

[39:33] mine out so everybody leaves the

[39:35] driveway open it parks on the street it

[39:37] makes it very difficult for our plows to

[39:39] get down these streets and maneuver

[39:41] around cars it's it's not going to

[39:44] change it's sows we're going to get

[39:46] complaints um it's just the nature of

[39:48] the

[39:50] Beast well Paul I have to say since we

[39:53] since this was

[39:54] implemented we have seen a lot of less

[39:56] complaint about snow on the straight vle

[40:00] them out their equipments are out and

[40:02] they know maneu the straight taking care

[40:04] of the snow so I would say that you know

[40:06] it's working and we just want to make

[40:09] sure we maintain that line so that we

[40:11] have this available whenever it happens

[40:13] we started our contractors a little

[40:15] earlier now General P sometimes we wait

[40:17] because it's a time where we think we

[40:18] can keep ahead of the storm and then

[40:20] sneak up on you and next thing you know

[40:22] you're behind it so we get the private

[40:25] contact a little earlier now and start

[40:28] getting streets

[40:29] clean it's a lot of coordinated effort

[40:32] with the police department getting them

[40:34] out in front of us and and notifying

[40:37] when they don't they're starting to tell

[40:39] and they and they've been very good

[40:40] working with Mike um coordinating the

[40:42] priority streets because priority street

[40:45] is a priority street because there's a

[40:47] reason and those are the streets that we

[40:49] have to have the cars off and you know

[40:51] it's obviously where the police

[40:52] department starts and they notify us so

[40:55] we get the plows up there as soon as

[40:56] possible and

[40:59] clear good job on that yeah any other

[41:03] question all right seeing none we'll

[41:05] move to

[41:06] page 40 and as on Parts

[41:11] maintenance Parts

[41:14] Main inre by margin

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[41:23] 2.18% maintenance pars maintenance

[41:27] you know most of it is in salary it's

[41:29] and benefits um but you know if you look

[41:32] even fees for services in the Parks has

[41:34] come down a little bit $10,000 there are

[41:37] no single big items um you know other

[41:40] than you look at overtime we anticipate

[41:42] snow the parks take care of their own

[41:44] parks and certain seity which are the

[41:46] island streets off Eastern um obviously

[41:50] you look at increases in t that

[41:53] increases a time and a half and double

[41:54] time and it's overtime so overtime

[41:56] follows accordingly

[41:59] questions go ahead please um and this

[42:02] has been a question throughout the

[42:03] process the blue highlighted blue is

[42:06] parer money and then on this budget the

[42:09] um director of parts and W is paid out

[42:12] of that which we know we

[42:14] just High um so um after many quite a

[42:19] while saving that short per had someone

[42:22] else what's the thought process in terms

[42:25] of moving forward

[42:27] to to be able to keep this individual uh

[42:30] I think the director parks and

[42:32] reparation is an important or critical

[42:34] person keeping the parks we've run for

[42:37] years without think the last long

[42:39] standing PR Parts was the I think he's

[42:43] been gone for 20 years I don't know he's

[42:45] been gone a long time um we've limp a

[42:49] along but when you limp along it creates

[42:51] problems too some of the more important

[42:54] things you want to look at with the

[42:55] parks okay we just have somebody that's

[42:58] just dedicated to do that now with the

[43:01] park structor in place we have somebody

[43:03] who's dedicated somebody who's actually

[43:04] familiar with the parks and City

[43:06] operations so um it will be an asset to

[43:09] the city moving forward um funding that

[43:12] now and then removing it later just

[43:15] going you know we're going to go

[43:16] backwards it's one step forward two

[43:18] steps backwards so um I think it's Pro

[43:22] upon the Council next budget cycle if

[43:25] it's in there to keep it definitely

[43:28] that's that wasn't my question whether

[43:30] way should keep it or not just wondering

[43:32] about how we think about making sure

[43:34] that it is there because right now it's

[43:35] out of arer funds which won't be there

[43:37] next

[43:40] year generate more money from the

[43:43] tennis baseball I mean there are some

[43:50] fees that are set within the parks and

[43:53] we look at increasing fees in building a

[43:55] codes at times it may be time that we

[43:58] have to look at increasing some of the

[43:59] fee structures that are people are using

[44:01] their Parks from everything from the

[44:03] Rose Garden to The Pavilions everything

[44:06] I

[44:07] mean we have our needs and if our needs

[44:09] are important we have to find a way

[44:11] to pay for those

[44:13] [Music]

[44:14] needs thank you it's a very important

[44:18] position and it's funded by arook we

[44:21] fortunate that it was funded by arook

[44:23] for the last couple years we'll have to

[44:25] absorb it into the general budget

[44:28] I mean this is one of them but once we

[44:30] make the investment that we made in our

[44:32] Parks it would just be it would be crazy

[44:34] not to have that position operating

[44:36] exactly and they par getting better oh um the senior tree trimmer and

[44:45] the tree trimmer is after new gentleman

[44:46] who's going to take us which one senior

[44:49] the senior tree trimmer is the is the

[44:51] gentleman who was going to be taking his

[44:53] um arborous exam in fact we just got

[44:56] some equipment form downstairs very

[44:58] qualified very experienced um he does a

[45:00] great job he's he's saving us

[45:05] [Music]

[45:07] money um I know that the new parks

[45:10] director is you know putting together

[45:12] lists of equipment park by Park uh

[45:15] things that we need swing swing

[45:17] replacement um wood chips etc etc um I

[45:22] I'm concerned about the 25 I um for for

[45:26] equipment that we might need more money

[45:28] than that but I'm hoping we can figure

[45:30] that out but we just got a fairly amount

[45:33] of equipment

[45:35] for should be good fors through the

[45:40] um

[45:41] Foundation um but a lot of this what um

[45:46] Mr M is doing is um he's looking at um

[45:49] the repair things the swings that get

[45:51] broken during summer the you

[45:55] know tiers the basic maintenance so we

[45:58] have all

[45:59] the play and then obviously start to

[46:03] develop where we want to go the part in

[46:05] the

[46:06] future I'm I'm excited about it I think

[46:08] that you know it's going to be pretty

[46:09] planned out and and it's

[46:14] great any other question Parks

[46:18] maintenance say none we'll move to um

[46:21] pools

[46:24] maintenance which part you want

[46:27] oh full maintenance a

[46:30] 7115 increased by

[46:33] 22.4% uh this the request of security

[46:37] staff and meance workers for the uh

[46:46] new would you like explanation please go

[46:50] ahead stuff no

[46:52] I I think we know

[46:55] it um and and new pool it's a beautiful

[46:59] pool um it's a complicated pool it's not

[47:02] what we're used to in Central Park um

[47:04] the fter

[47:05] system um because it's new techn it's

[47:09] today's technology not what we have

[47:11] water running in it and then overflowing

[47:13] at the other end um so the requirements

[47:16] to the health department on ph forine

[47:20] and different things is a lot more

[47:22] strict um when they come in and monitor

[47:24] the pool check the pool and they come in

[47:25] regularly um so the chemical usage is

[47:29] different there um you know so staff she

[47:32] you know help with the monitoring of

[47:34] that pool right now we're using staff

[47:38] certified from the Wast to do Chemical

[47:42] Testing there's it's different the old

[47:45] Central Park have no filter system so

[47:48] the cost to operate the filter is a

[47:50] little bit more and obviously the

[47:53] security is um it's based on what we

[47:55] went through in the first year we're

[47:57] and people are entering the pool at

[47:59] night um

[48:05] so L of hands quickly lot of hands just

[48:09] quick so our last with the last pool we

[48:12] were essentially emptying and refilling

[48:15] like every day right like in nor really

[48:17] what it was there was constant stream of

[48:19] frh water rning okay okay sometimes you

[48:23] would have to empty it though with I

[48:24] mean and the other thing

[48:27] we all know the problem with the geese

[48:28] so yes we did have to empty the pool

[48:30] clean the pool and then refill the pool

[48:32] and you know clean the deck you know

[48:34] around constantly because of issues with

[48:37] the heat

[48:39] yes and the heating

[48:42] fuel for the pool for the pool the

[48:44] heating fuel is for everything there's

[48:46] the the original building where um all

[48:48] the servers are um the Central Park

[48:52] building used to be the office is

[48:55] there yeah yeah that building was heated

[48:58] it's the building not no we don't heat

[49:00] the pool

[49:04] [Music]

[49:06] wi there's no heat in the pool or

[49:09] buildings it's it's for the the

[49:11] administrative building

[49:13] is go ahead um yes I wanted to um ask um

[49:18] in terms of pill first um didn't know if

[49:22] there was any thought about um whether

[49:24] we could put a splash pad instead of the

[49:26] pool uh so that's one question I have um

[49:29] or just wanted to bring that up and if

[49:32] so how much would that cost I think

[49:33] around 75 but I'm but I'm not sure

[49:36] and could be

[49:39] considerably Les less expensive than

[49:41] tring rep the that's we got on the pool

[49:45] I I think it was three years ago we had

[49:47] a report on it that was about

[49:50] $500,000 um since then the pool

[49:54] everything um all the controls the El

[49:57] that's in the pit next to the P shot um

[50:00] the whole pool would have to come out

[50:01] you'd have to go whole

[50:05] pooling Million by the time you all the

[50:12] anything a decision

[50:14] that director car will maybe next year

[50:18] budget for you 26 for a

[50:22] uh it's only

[50:25] 26 with that said there's some there was

[50:27] AR money that was um dedicated to

[50:30] Hillhurst and Mr fer is looking up now

[50:32] to see if there's any remaining and I

[50:35] was I'm not sure Mr if that's really um

[50:39] what that that what been what supposed

[50:41] to be used for

[50:46] thatle so he said there's 200,000 that's

[50:49] pickle ball is not paid for yet no the

[50:51] pickle ball is I'm assuming it's paid

[50:53] through engineer I'm assuming that's all

[50:54] been paid talking about the

[50:57] there's money set aside just for

[51:00] repair it's just not enough no near

[51:04] enough we I think there was talks put

[51:06] the dog park right or

[51:09] something the dog there was um talk

[51:11] about a dog park and there was also

[51:13] something to do with the basketball

[51:14] courts up at Hillhurst it was all whole

[51:17] all part of one plan um that we had

[51:19] worked on um with residents from that

[51:23] area um and it also we talked a little

[51:25] bit about fair but I think the Fairview

[51:27] stuff happened but the big thing were

[51:28] the pickle ball courts um but yeah the

[51:30] dog park the um and what did I say the

[51:34] basketball court um were something there

[51:37] but maybe some of that 200,000 couldi

[51:40] courts going into Fair can't remember

[51:43] what what was with fa two yeah Pi balls are hit yeah the the

[51:54] basketball courts being made over to a

[51:56] dog park cut Center section out M yep so the money that's left is going to

[52:03] cover all that there's no room there's

[52:05] no uh funding left for considering a

[52:08] splash pad well unless you divert what

[52:10] you have towards a splash pad and then

[52:12] you know see what the total cost of The

[52:14] Flash p is you know but there might be

[52:17] some sits finished up

[52:21] so it's only go ahead um so the other

[52:25] questions I have um well I just wanted

[52:26] to say that the health and Recreation

[52:28] committee um did meet um to discuss

[52:32] possible fees and pull rules um I think

[52:35] you you attended that meeting Mr Leon

[52:38] thank you um and so we did come up with

[52:40] some ideas we never moved it forward or

[52:42] voted on anything but we can continue to

[52:44] have that you know discussion to try to

[52:46] generate some Revenue um what we had

[52:49] talked about was non residents um having

[52:52] to pay fees for the pool but we haven't even brought that forward yet

[52:56] but um um it might give us you know some

[52:58] additional Revenue but my other question

[53:00] is so have we thought at all about the

[53:03] old pool at Central Park and what we

[53:07] would do with that I mean I know there's

[53:09] been a lot of ideas tossed around um but

[53:12] when would we take care of that well

[53:14] really depends on um green

[53:18] [Music]

[53:19] spaceace some people have asked for back

[53:23] ice skating the small one it wouldn't

[53:25] take up the whole pool area

[53:27] some ask you for um was it the

[53:30] volleyball there's no volleyball the

[53:33] sand area where one in is volleyball

[53:35] there's a number of people who you know

[53:39] sort of comment on a couple things that

[53:41] would be nice there but again solid plan

[53:45] um me particular I think back when I was

[53:48] young and used to ice gate at Central

[53:50] Park yeah and um you know if you did

[53:53] something there you could control the

[53:54] depth where you don't have to worry

[53:55] about you know having red FL up all time

[53:57] it's just not safe you know you make it

[53:59] 12 in deep you don't have to worry about

[54:01] you know somebody falling in and going

[54:03] under the ice um so there's a number of

[54:06] things it's you I think um this

[54:09] winter B for

[54:14] a parks

[54:17] and and see if we come up this what's

[54:20] the best use for that

[54:23] area go ahead well uh I do remember the

[54:27] woman that came forward that

[54:30] wanted hles where are we with that

[54:33] because it's going to be next year

[54:35] pretty soon I'm sorry want

[54:40] it to back from

[54:44] her

[54:47] looking to her yeah we did at the

[54:51] address that she indicated that she

[54:53] could be reached at not heard back so

[54:55] that's as a follow and if there's

[54:57] anything more I'll bring it to the

[55:00] council's attention I get from okay I

[55:02] just want to make sure because last time

[55:04] was like I did this for since 2022 and

[55:07] here I am again and nobody's helping me

[55:09] so just want to make sure that we get

[55:11] our good

[55:12] those Paul since pool and the Central

[55:14] Park Pool the new pool what is your

[55:17] takeway from the usage this year what

[55:20] would you if anything change for next

[55:22] year what would

[55:24] you change and usage

[55:27] um we we based the usage on what we

[55:29] thought was the safe number that the

[55:33] um boys and girls can handle um and it

[55:37] was 450 and that pool was maxed out for

[55:40] it was hot summer so it was maxed out

[55:42] all the time um and you

[55:45] know it was the first year whether it

[55:48] was the novelty of it and next year

[55:50] we'll see you know what happens but you

[55:52] know I there's nothing I would do

[55:55] differently in that po uh with regards

[55:58] to other than possibly you know trying

[56:01] to extend hours because people really

[56:02] enjoy the pool I mean obviously when

[56:04] it's h people enjoy it but that would be

[56:06] something we'd have to work out

[56:07] contraction with um you know the

[56:10] contractor who's going to you know do

[56:11] the life regarding and stuff for us but

[56:13] um it's a short season and we get eight

[56:16] to nine weeks out of it um and then

[56:18] unfortunately most of the staff that's

[56:20] working goes back to school whether it's

[56:22] college or high school so you know it

[56:25] doesn't last much longer you know but

[56:28] maybe hours and there was a lot of

[56:31] activity very early in the morning for

[56:33] the lap pool um it was amazing even if

[56:36] it was raining as long as there wasn't

[56:37] thunder lightning they were using a la

[56:40] pool even in the rain so um it was a

[56:43] great

[56:49] success um I don't think it was a

[56:51] novelty I think I think it's just a huge

[56:54] asset to our city i' see kids walking

[56:56] all over the city with towels seriously

[56:59] to and from it was really beautiful I

[57:01] liked it uh my question is

[57:04] um uh uh security staff so I I thought

[57:08] Chief Clifford mentioned yesterday they

[57:10] had some type of Grant he paid they paid

[57:13] part of that the community was up there

[57:17] when I saw the truck there was some

[57:19] people up there that you know there were

[57:21] some there were some problems or some

[57:23] issues at times you know with with the

[57:26] people you know Vis po um you but at the

[57:30] funding

[57:31] part did it come from the PD or just

[57:34] came from you don't know I don't know I

[57:37] know after the mayor had requested that

[57:39] there was an officer there more in the

[57:42] afternoon sessions because that's when

[57:44] it got a little more crowd and

[57:45] especially when the pool is shutting

[57:47] down getting people to leave the pool so

[57:49] I'm not sure how it was funded whether

[57:51] it stly through the PD or whether it was

[57:53] a grant or something

[57:56] I I can I can also offer that the police

[57:58] were there in the morning in the

[57:59] afternoon I played tennis there in the

[58:01] morning and they were there like 8:30 in

[58:02] the morning um so they were there I'm

[58:04] just wondering the funding line most of

[58:07] our issues are SS people didn't want to

[58:09] leave the

[58:10] C you making nice and you ask them to

[58:13] leave the funding was directly through

[58:15] the police department because you know

[58:17] okay you know we weren't planning at

[58:19] having police because of TR we

[58:22] started started TR

[58:26] so it's been a learning curve now we've

[58:28] up some of the uh other levels of

[58:31] deterrence with the camera

[58:34] systems uh again

[58:37] there's two factors one is uh

[58:42] maintaining

[58:43] uh appropriate activity during the

[58:47] operational hours of the parks and then

[58:51] it's people are choosing to go in there

[58:54] after hours

[58:56] people jumping the fence and so it's how

[58:59] do you balance that out uh with will be

[59:03] uniform police or other security that

[59:06] might be a little bit cheaper and more

[59:09] complimentary to just activities within

[59:13] uh we're talking about the pool now but

[59:16] I look at uh his a diamond his music cap

[59:19] and so there places in the park where we

[59:22] want people to have fun be able to enjoy

[59:25] it and uh some of it is just being

[59:28] approached with a little bit level of

[59:31] flexibility what we learned this year

[59:33] and how do we implement it going forward

[59:36] next year again to get most cost

[59:39] effective results but making sure people

[59:41] are behaving themselves and having a

[59:43] good

[59:44] time when and you called your committee

[59:47] toward I think one of the discussion was

[59:49] um security cameras um we talking about

[59:53] security having enforc security but what

[59:55] about was um buying some cameras Oh we

[59:57] have cameras

[59:59] here J was that they lagged in the

[1:00:02] installation so pool was done some of

[1:00:05] the cameras weren't placed it was uh

[1:00:07] laying some fiber optics uh everything

[1:00:11] now I believe is up and

[1:00:14] running

[1:00:16] okay yeah I mean I think we could still

[1:00:19] use a few more cameras um but I think

[1:00:21] the lighting is the other piece that

[1:00:23] really helped I mean we're having

[1:00:26] vandalism I mean there's there's no

[1:00:27] doubt but I think the additional

[1:00:29] lighting that came as part of the um

[1:00:33] overall project of the pool the tennis

[1:00:35] courts Etc the road um really was great

[1:00:39] and um you know helpful at night in the

[1:00:42] park I know during the music Haven

[1:00:44] season at least it was it was definitely

[1:00:46] a little bit easier to maneuver around

[1:00:49] um so I appreciate and the lighting is I

[1:00:52] love those um those lights as well I

[1:00:54] mean they're really very beautiful

[1:00:58] so and just back in terms of the

[1:01:01] security staff cause is that what could

[1:01:03] cost us this year oh I no I don't I

[1:01:06] don't have the I don't have the

[1:01:08] information it's

[1:01:10] 15,000 have

[1:01:12] somebody through the whole season you

[1:01:14] can look that up and you tell me give

[1:01:21] behav you know it's unfortunate that we

[1:01:23] have to do this for a nice facility like

[1:01:25] that

[1:01:26] people are

[1:01:28] just oh it was coming out of the police

[1:01:30] budget okay I think the special police I said this year the police security was

[1:01:37] paid out of the police budget yeah okay

[1:01:40] that makes

[1:01:41] sense I think to miss Toro's Point um it

[1:01:45] might have been under special police

[1:01:47] officer when the um when the police

[1:01:49] presented

[1:01:51] gent and the gentleman that work

[1:01:53] downstairs in the pool that's right the

[1:01:55] pool Bas numbers on two shifts the

[1:01:57] second and the third shift be $25 find

[1:02:00] my pool we canet it here and if we have

[1:02:03] to revisit it we'll revisit it when um

[1:02:06] the parks right committee comes up with

[1:02:08] their fees and decide to move forward

[1:02:11] with their fee

[1:02:12] I'll all right any other question on the

[1:02:15] full

[1:02:16] maintenance if not we'll move to page 44

[1:02:20] waste Administration our favor here we

[1:02:23] go

[1:02:26] waste admin increased by

[1:02:30] 6.15% I'm just going to go through the

[1:02:32] rest of the waste collection a 8161

[1:02:35] inreased by

[1:02:37] 9.85% waste disposal increased by

[1:02:42] 6.1% and waste recycling increased by

[1:02:46] [Music]

[1:02:48] 9.02% we Recreation I did

[1:02:54] a712 oh sorry all right let's go back to

[1:02:58] page 42

[1:03:01] bottom full Recreation FS of recreation

[1:03:04] 87125 increased by

[1:03:08] 4.72% I think that's mostly due to the

[1:03:11] [Music]

[1:03:12] board fees for services

[1:03:17] correct

[1:03:19] staff well the state changed

[1:03:22] the minimum all R for lifeguards so

[1:03:25] [Music]

[1:03:27] yeah

[1:03:30] reflects and this is funded by ARA we

[1:03:33] had some make

[1:03:35] 202 2026 per y in the general budget any

[1:03:42] question on this that's all the pools

[1:03:44] not just um right not just not just

[1:03:46] Central I just wanted to point that

[1:03:50] out yeah

[1:03:54] sorry yeah

[1:03:57] okay so we'll move to page 44 W

[1:04:01] Administration prob can just give us an

[1:04:03] update on Administration and we'll take

[1:04:05] question and go colle how much

[1:04:08] Administration than some increases with

[1:04:11] the to um Staffing or the deputy

[1:04:15] director of

[1:04:18] um General Services one thing we look at

[1:04:21] is retaining help and attention here and

[1:04:26] um there are some increase in order to

[1:04:29] um compensate the employees that are

[1:04:31] doing the work here um we have Union

[1:04:34] employees that are exceeding the

[1:04:36] salaries of

[1:04:37] managers U which is um you know trying

[1:04:41] to move somebody up from the to the next

[1:04:43] manager spot he's not going to leave his

[1:04:45] Union spot because has the full

[1:04:46] protection of the bargain unit and he's

[1:04:48] making more than the

[1:04:49] manager it's um

[1:04:52] and it's just something we have to look

[1:04:55] at as a whole

[1:04:56] um we start looking

[1:04:58] at retaining good management within the

[1:05:02] organization any question on this on

[1:05:05] wasted men right waste

[1:05:07] Administration go ahead please uh so the

[1:05:10] deputy Street manager

[1:05:12] 81601 100 so he's half part time half

[1:05:17] time here and half time where streets so

[1:05:22] okay go ahead sorry but to that point

[1:05:25] Miss on is there truly no ceiling for

[1:05:28] salaries or for that that

[1:05:32] um example you had where you have

[1:05:34] employees superseding like salaries of

[1:05:37] managers That's goes back to the

[1:05:40] negotiations with the barain so when you

[1:05:42] look at that and you know youing them

[1:05:45] are you know

[1:05:47] $98,000 um without their own

[1:05:50] time yeah for a phone you it's you know

[1:05:55] it's disappointing to the manager from

[1:05:57] supervising him and you know after the

[1:05:58] first two weeks of the winter he's

[1:06:00] already exceeded what the manager's

[1:06:02] making and you know so when you look at

[1:06:04] moving you know a manager leaves because

[1:06:06] find something different maybe um that

[1:06:08] person doesn't want to move up to the

[1:06:09] manager spot he's making more where he

[1:06:11] is within the unit so it's you know

[1:06:14] we've got to change that Delta between

[1:06:18] some of the bargaining units and some of

[1:06:19] the managers that are

[1:06:23] managing go ahead please so I see that

[1:06:25] you have uh your info processing

[1:06:27] specialist three but that that position

[1:06:30] is not being filled is this I guess this

[1:06:32] is probably a a question for the mayor

[1:06:35] and um Mr Ferrari is this consistent

[1:06:37] throughout that we're moving all the um

[1:06:39] info processes especially either we're

[1:06:42] filling those positions or moving them

[1:06:43] up to fours and getting rid of the lower

[1:06:46] uh clerk kind of positions so looks like

[1:06:49] it's happening and I think I think you

[1:06:51] know uh I think the reason for that is

[1:06:54] to uh is to keep uh retention of of the

[1:06:58] employees that are broader level of job

[1:07:02] duties that can be assigned to the four

[1:07:05] as opposed to the three so we get more

[1:07:07] value out of the actual workload plus

[1:07:10] you get your attention

[1:07:14] employe so the the clerk like we were

[1:07:17] talking

[1:07:18] about um the clarify Position will be no

[1:07:21] more within the city at all

[1:07:25] we will but in fact in fact at the

[1:07:27] police department they're getting rid of

[1:07:29] I3 and adding it

[1:07:31] claric so it's recruit so you have to

[1:07:34] match

[1:07:35] up what the skill set of the employee is

[1:07:39] with the actual demands of the job for

[1:07:42] the

[1:07:43] workload because well you weren't here

[1:07:45] may but there was a lengthy discussion

[1:07:46] about um an ips3 position being move a

[1:07:50] clerical a position being removed ips3

[1:07:52] being added and the impact it would have

[1:07:55] on that particular because there's an

[1:07:56] individual in the clerical Aid and that

[1:07:59] person could see conceivably um not have

[1:08:01] a job if they had an ips3 who was on the

[1:08:04] list which there is a list now to fill

[1:08:06] it so that's why I was wondering um the

[1:08:09] rational most things do happen with

[1:08:11] civil service and long stop trying to

[1:08:14] figure out the full logic behind the

[1:08:16] civil service system clerical Aid is not

[1:08:19] a civil service it's not a tested

[1:08:21] position correct but what you're saying

[1:08:23] is on the other side where somebody

[1:08:27] might be in a position there is a test

[1:08:29] they would not be reachable on the list

[1:08:32] and they would be out of a

[1:08:34] [Music]

[1:08:37] position go ahead please well I think

[1:08:39] that I think it might have

[1:08:41] been we talked about this when you were

[1:08:43] presenting last night and I think that

[1:08:45] did you mention that we would do

[1:08:47] everything in our power to make sure

[1:08:48] that that person would be working still

[1:08:52] within the city uh somewhere and I also

[1:08:54] just want to say and I have very limited

[1:08:56] experience in this just from one of my

[1:08:58] previous roles but I do find it frust I

[1:09:01] found it frustrating as a supervisor but

[1:09:03] I also want to say that again I think

[1:09:06] that recognizing and trying to promote

[1:09:09] recognizing people's skills trying to um

[1:09:11] encourage them to move up and and

[1:09:14] appreciate their skill level is really

[1:09:16] important um especially around retention

[1:09:19] um so I appreciate when people are you

[1:09:22] know like what the police department

[1:09:24] said especially because that clerical

[1:09:27] the job

[1:09:28] description um I I think is really just

[1:09:31] so limited in terms of what that person

[1:09:33] can actually do unless they're working

[1:09:35] outside their job title and that could

[1:09:38] get us into trouble so I didn't see did

[1:09:41] they present us with a job description

[1:09:43] of a clerical Aid because I didn't see

[1:09:44] that I don't think that they did but I'm

[1:09:45] just saying they talked about the fact

[1:09:47] that I believe the clerical Aid mostly

[1:09:49] it's like answering phones for example I

[1:09:51] mean once you start to use the computers

[1:09:53] and you know typee

[1:09:57] ition so you know I can't make that

[1:09:59] comparison I didn't see either job

[1:10:01] prescription since we're on that topic

[1:10:02] and it's related to code I'm just going

[1:10:04] to make comment would it be wise to keep

[1:10:06] that position because of the workflow

[1:10:08] and

[1:10:09] codes yeah because there's so much so

[1:10:11] much for happening now and so much

[1:10:13] things need to get look at is you know

[1:10:16] the actual job description cleric versus

[1:10:18] what a ips3 can do or

[1:10:21] cases4 you know when you deal with the

[1:10:23] Bary unit if you run say Clark to say

[1:10:26] look I I need you to you know do a

[1:10:29] spreadsheet and give me a report a job

[1:10:32] description I I to do it so you you you

[1:10:36] know you got to look at your needs in

[1:10:37] the department and then look at how you

[1:10:41] going to fill those needs if you got six

[1:10:43] people answering the phone but nobody

[1:10:44] can write a report we only

[1:10:47] [Music]

[1:10:51] one that's why we moved you know up to

[1:10:54] you know for the IPS from IPS 2 IPS 3

[1:10:57] because the salary is not a big jump but

[1:11:00] you get a lot more um respons

[1:11:04] responsibilities and they can do a lot

[1:11:05] more for you under that title

[1:11:09] um and the only way that person if if

[1:11:12] they their their job was because

[1:11:14] somebody else wanted a job the only way

[1:11:16] for them to do that is to move in the

[1:11:17] position where if they had seniority but

[1:11:19] with the same job title in a different

[1:11:21] [Music]

[1:11:23] department that's

[1:11:27] has to be in that

[1:11:30] group it's really

[1:11:32] complicated okay and to I have about

[1:11:38] five minutes maybe eight I have to be at

[1:11:41] the

[1:11:42] um plot meeting

[1:11:46] so we'll don't worry don't

[1:11:53] worry all right let's go any other

[1:11:55] question for Waste admin if not we'll

[1:11:57] move into waste

[1:11:58] collection bottom of page 45 into

[1:12:04] 46 there was a question submitted 81611

[1:12:07] 125 are waste working hours that is when

[1:12:11] employee from another department comes

[1:12:13] down to assist waste there's that $2 an

[1:12:15] hour bump that they get so if we're

[1:12:18] short or there's a lot of call outs and

[1:12:20] weight and get somebody some Street stn

[1:12:22] pars they get that $2 an hour and we did

[1:12:25] approve that in the contract yes so that

[1:12:27] was approved by us contractual thank

[1:12:31] you any other questions on this

[1:12:36] section if not we'll move to page um 47

[1:12:39] at top W

[1:12:46] disposal please U just on 46 and 47

[1:12:50] increasing the labor loader from uh 3 to

[1:12:53] 5 and 5 to 7 I think that's a a good

[1:12:55] deal I think it's important and I just

[1:12:57] want to put that out there disposal

[1:12:59] let's do disposal

[1:13:01] uh one no no no right here uh but

[1:13:05] dealing with this one here oh but we

[1:13:07] this this is up here on page 46 so it's

[1:13:11] um a

[1:13:13] 8161

[1:13:16] 121 so 3 to five yeah um and what it was

[1:13:20] there's two in one two in the waste

[1:13:23] colle two in recyc have a lot of very

[1:13:25] good labor loaders that do a great job

[1:13:29] um they're never going to get you know

[1:13:32] they not have no incent to get a

[1:13:33] driver's license to a CDL for other

[1:13:35] reasons right but you know um they

[1:13:39] should be looked at to move up to get

[1:13:42] benefits from the city because of the

[1:13:43] work they're doing and you know we were

[1:13:46] kind enough to put five in last year

[1:13:49] requesting four more this year and those

[1:13:51] are would be four labor orders that are

[1:13:54] will call cream the crop they come in

[1:13:56] every day they do a great job um you

[1:13:59] know and you know and move them from

[1:14:02] seasonal to um you know full-time

[1:14:04] position here I think that's wonderful

[1:14:07] um and they don't need their CDL at this

[1:14:08] point but hopefully they'll be working

[1:14:10] right along and and want to get it and

[1:14:11] that'll increase up the line for CDLs

[1:14:14] for for trash drivers thank you go ahead

[1:14:18] just really question from we kind of had

[1:14:20] this discussion around a different um

[1:14:22] department so this this 15 is this

[1:14:24] really people in this

[1:14:26] [Music]

[1:14:31] position

[1:14:37] okay all right so that one did get

[1:14:42] Bren five is funded

[1:14:47] by five is funded

[1:14:53] by any other question

[1:14:57] mve to page

[1:14:59] 47 where

[1:15:02] disposal Way

[1:15:05] Recycling the the big increases are

[1:15:08] there obviously in our tiing fees and

[1:15:10] that'll answer the question for the way

[1:15:11] recycling to the contract is by CPI okay

[1:15:16] um I'm sorry what is that consum price

[1:15:20] yeah the contracts do go by CPA because

[1:15:22] the landf fees go um every year Fiel

[1:15:26] prices go um and with recycling there is

[1:15:29] no guarantee with recycling we don't

[1:15:31] even have a contract that takes us a

[1:15:33] past two years because that's all based

[1:15:35] on you know we go back four years ago

[1:15:37] three years ago we didn't pay for

[1:15:38] recycling right and now we're paying

[1:15:40] more for you know disposing of recycles

[1:15:43] recyclables than we are for MSW so it's

[1:15:47] an unknown we could well be been higher

[1:15:50] um not anticipating much higher but it's something that nobody can guarantee

[1:15:55] us on a regular

[1:15:56] [Music]

[1:15:57] basis questions thank

[1:16:02] you

[1:16:04] [Music]

[1:16:06] question see on we'll move into

[1:16:09] um water

[1:16:11] fun I I can't be like they put me on as

[1:16:15] first at their meeting and Mr Warner

[1:16:18] wants to talk about the high SCH and I

[1:16:21] don't want to

[1:16:22] get be for that if you want I know you

[1:16:25] have unfinished business for um today

[1:16:29] you want to be watering store have no

[1:16:30] problem well I may be able to answer the

[1:16:33] question Chris you leaving

[1:16:35] also would you able

[1:16:37] to I I can fumble through on water but I

[1:16:40] think you're your specialist is to my

[1:16:42] right

[1:16:43] [Music]

[1:16:47] H um we'll see what questions you have

[1:16:50] yeah let's go through it and if we have

[1:16:52] anything we'll just yes we'll let tell

[1:16:55] me abolutely tell me I'll give you an

[1:16:57] answer okay I apologize good luck

[1:17:00] [Music]

[1:17:05] thanks this is still kind of on waist

[1:17:07] based on the

[1:17:08] um Mr um told us about the plans about

[1:17:14] the bags Etc and then we got the email

[1:17:16] today we're going to be discussing um

[1:17:18] the email that was that was sent out

[1:17:21] from the discussing the email about the

[1:17:24] turn from yes I I don't have we we can

[1:17:27] discuss that when we have unfinished

[1:17:29] business next week yeah yes because yeah

[1:17:32] that's yes did you see it again yes so

[1:17:36] we we can address that um next week next

[1:17:40] Tuesday let's finish off working with

[1:17:42] the department and go through whatever

[1:17:43] we have

[1:17:45] and process all time the budget review

[1:17:49] let's move to water and let separate

[1:17:52] time

[1:17:58] so you can go through the revenue

[1:18:04] please there's not really much to say

[1:18:06] about the revenue we didn't increase any

[1:18:09] fe uh I believe that um some of the uh

[1:18:15] properties in and out of the city

[1:18:18] depending on the year increase decree

[1:18:20] that's how what you're seeing in the

[1:18:22] differences markal differences in the

[1:18:24] revenue

[1:18:25] um throughout the water budget other

[1:18:28] than that um absolutely the same

[1:18:34] zero oh yes we're also added some

[1:18:37] appropriated fund balance $61,900

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[1:18:54] moving line FX2 410 we're zeroing it out

[1:18:58] because there's no one it's at 5,000

[1:19:01] because there's um that property is not

[1:19:03] rented it's not rented uh I I you know

[1:19:07] my talk PA you think we get some of for

[1:19:10] six or something go I don't goes maybe

[1:19:13] I'm not running it out not running not

[1:19:16] back council with that requires upgrades

[1:19:20] it cost more money and not going to go

[1:19:24] down that

[1:19:27] so we're taking that amount out of the

[1:19:29] budget

[1:19:31] y

[1:19:36] other be one of

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[1:19:41] Chang any additional question on what go

[1:19:44] ahead please the Met water cells outside

[1:19:48] City the 2022 act Rue line please

[1:19:52] correct me if I'm wrong but it seems a

[1:19:54] lot Clos certain I don't understand the

[1:19:55] reason why but as you can see throughout

[1:19:58] the years AC high has all but

[1:20:01] doubled um so wanted to ensure that

[1:20:05] we're not just attributing all of the

[1:20:06] increases to our city residents

[1:20:08] especially if external residents are

[1:20:11] still equally benefiting from the same

[1:20:13] resource so that's my question is just

[1:20:16] what would be the process ially speaking

[1:20:17] if we're interested increasing that line

[1:20:20] for outside actually we did increase it

[1:20:23] last year uh but and you have to speak

[1:20:26] to PA about that because he he the very

[1:20:30] correct

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[1:20:32] answer well these some of those are

[1:20:35] would be

[1:20:36] Beyond public session some subject to

[1:20:39] negotiation with some of our sister

[1:20:42] communities

[1:20:44] or some

[1:20:47] are work with some are less than good to

[1:20:49] work

[1:20:52] with we've done a proposal years ago go

[1:20:55] hit SK in there big debate over water

[1:20:58] City could provide 100% of their water a

[1:21:01] lot less than what they're charge in

[1:21:02] their

[1:21:03] residents I'm not any negotiations with

[1:21:06] them at this point to actually undertake

[1:21:09] that but uh there are times when we

[1:21:11] provide 100% of the water for unit we

[1:21:15] have the capacity to do

[1:21:17] that most times it's more of a split

[1:21:21] depending on their capacity out of their

[1:21:23] Wells

[1:21:26] thank

[1:21:27] you any other question on this water

[1:21:31] section have pleas um on the on an um an

[1:21:34] expense line um the reservoir source of

[1:21:38] is that the same Reservoir sour of um

[1:21:42] expense line

[1:21:46] fx8320 um 458 Landscaping it's under the

[1:21:50] reservoir and I was just wondering what

[1:21:52] was included in that line cuz that is you know a big jump we're going

[1:21:59] from um 14,000 to

[1:22:03] 30,600 Paul used to mow the grass he's

[1:22:06] not there he's not o the grass ah so

[1:22:08] that's we're paying okay thank

[1:22:11] you don't we just have another St um

[1:22:14] somebody else from the city just go M

[1:22:16] the grass wouldn't it just be another

[1:22:18] staff member that Ms other properties

[1:22:21] that we have but I think we weren't

[1:22:22] paying we weren't paying all to do the

[1:22:25] work so it's an additional work but I am

[1:22:27] looking at that within

[1:22:30] the stack

[1:22:33] see just balance our resources out we

[1:22:36] get complaints where we're not going to

[1:22:37] grass and Parks some of the islands and

[1:22:40] other sours to keep up with

[1:22:43] the overall

[1:22:47] demand so does that I'm not clear does

[1:22:50] that mean that snap crew doesn't

[1:22:51] wouldn't be doing that no right now the

[1:22:53] proposal is is to have an outside vendor

[1:22:56] from the door it which has been done for

[1:22:59] the

[1:23:01] last 6 weeks 8

[1:23:06] weeks and then go ahead 83 am I still in

[1:23:10] the same section oh no now I'm in

[1:23:12] pumping do you want me to ask a question

[1:23:14] or no go ahead let hold okay

[1:23:17] 8321 425 light power gas I wasn't I mean

[1:23:22] it's a it's a big increase but I just

[1:23:23] assumed it was probably increases in gas

[1:23:26] and you know lighting but I wasn't

[1:23:30] sure um page eight sorry page four light

[1:23:36] yes you know we're adding fa is it

[1:23:44] because of other pumping

[1:23:46] station pumping stations add new water

[1:23:49] ws and it's also not you know it's also

[1:23:51] for electric and U gas also yeah so it's

[1:23:55] just the the increases that we're all

[1:23:57] facing in those in those areas but okay

[1:24:00] so

[1:24:01] the electric cost gas cost correct oh

[1:24:07] yeah I mean I only there's nothing we

[1:24:10] can do about it is basically what what

[1:24:12] I'm thinking but hope for a better

[1:24:14] contract next

[1:24:18] time any other question on Water Well in

[1:24:23] that things that we're trying to do we

[1:24:26] had the proposal to uh sell the one lot

[1:24:30] in reram for half a million dollars

[1:24:33] that's been on hold because rather than

[1:24:35] put in place a moratorium

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[1:24:39] for solar fields and battery storage we

[1:24:44] have adjacent property there we're still

[1:24:47] looking uh the option of putting

[1:24:51] solar

[1:24:53] panels under two models one uh you put

[1:24:58] the panels in generate the electricity

[1:25:00] and sell it back to National Grid the

[1:25:03] other one would be because of our high

[1:25:05] demand for those uh pumps at the well we

[1:25:10] would just use the electricity right on

[1:25:12] sight uh but with solar again it's

[1:25:16] a uh condition upon the time of

[1:25:19] day the pumps

[1:25:22] run to very 24 hours a

[1:25:28] day you would never have full capacity

[1:25:32] of so

[1:25:39] there just want to let you know too

[1:25:41] currently we're at

[1:25:43] $89,000 per

[1:25:45] year for electric yeah I have

[1:25:49] that yeah I saw

[1:25:52] that yep

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[1:26:02] we'll move to

[1:26:07] Su from the

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[1:26:24] okay so the sewer fund it's only a 5.5%

[1:26:27] increase 24 adopted to the proposed 2025

[1:26:31] there's no increases in the

[1:26:33] flat sewer

[1:26:35] rates um basically the same thing as the

[1:26:39] water um depending on what comes online

[1:26:41] go offline um we are using appropriate

[1:26:45] debt reserves of

[1:26:49] $69,000 other than

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[1:26:53] that for

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[1:27:25] if you have a question go ahead please

[1:28:14] I was to call you I I just know that

[1:28:16] Paul probably want to let you know that

[1:28:18] the sludge hauling and grit yeah because

[1:28:21] just the contract has increased

[1:28:25] going up to 150 something dollar a know

[1:28:29] you been complained so going from

[1:28:31] 1,700 1950 I know that it's a big point

[1:28:35] of contention for them you know I know

[1:28:37] he's trying to work hard to try to get

[1:28:39] better deals all the time it's not 1700

[1:28:41] 1.7 to 1.97 to

[1:28:45] 1.9 if I know you would want to talk

[1:28:48] about that so that's a question you guys

[1:28:50] can ask when it comes back to again yeah

[1:28:53] you want to summarize on the

[1:28:54] benefits

[1:28:58] uh and the benefits uh uh pretty much

[1:29:02] all the same from last year the biggest

[1:29:04] increas is uh uh again like we said last

[1:29:08] year was U we knew this was going to

[1:29:10] happen was for Debt Service and uh

[1:29:13] Health uh but you know because you know

[1:29:17] we had our plan to increase our the

[1:29:20] rates from last year you know that's why

[1:29:22] we have to rate this year

[1:29:30] questions yes yeah under the workers

[1:29:32] comp Medical

[1:29:35] Services 2023 was at 11,000 and 2024 50

[1:29:41] and went back down by

[1:29:43] 50 um yeah what had what had happened

[1:29:46] was uh

[1:29:48] in23 was someone who got and you

[1:29:52] contining the services so we knew it was

[1:29:54] going to increase and now uh everybody

[1:29:58] seems to do good so we're keeping it at

[1:30:01] looking at lower it you know cuz you

[1:30:03] know there's really not it's not really

[1:30:05] a huge uh number of people so if one guy

[1:30:08] gets hurt it's will cause

[1:30:14] the any other

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[1:30:22] questions got

[1:30:24] water and SE is definitely Paul's

[1:30:27] Forte General general service questions

[1:30:30] I can answer all that if for some reason

[1:30:33] not satisfi we can uh we can have him um

[1:30:36] be available either Friday or

[1:30:38] Tuesday so kind of answer any additional

[1:30:41] questions we may

[1:30:43] have chrisan you do Capital yes I was

[1:30:46] going to roll capital

[1:30:48] and capital straight forward

[1:30:54] I

[1:30:57] don't we can share that one I'm going

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[1:31:10] to it's a poli collection it's proposals

[1:31:14] for two rear

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[1:31:20] loers Parts proper yes yeah start from

[1:31:24] the top

[1:31:25] and uh 2f 350 regular pickups with plows

[1:31:30] uh crew cab with the plow and two golf

[1:31:34] carts um one of our golf carts was uh

[1:31:38] was crashed uh this year the other one

[1:31:41] is in very poor shape it's how um our

[1:31:45] staff get moves along Central Park and gets from one side to the other um

[1:31:51] the fleet pickups are are needed uh um

[1:31:54] especially our our our plowing abilities

[1:31:58] for our Parks they have a lot of Aging

[1:32:01] vehicles in our waste collection um Paul

[1:32:05] had also put in for two rear load of

[1:32:08] Packers um I I believe this is an

[1:32:11] excellent investment to continue to uh

[1:32:14] improve and replace these repun these

[1:32:17] trucks on a yearly basis uh taking a

[1:32:20] couple of these in uh I remember a few

[1:32:23] years back three or four years back you

[1:32:25] would put four in and now we're down to

[1:32:28] the point where we can start maintaining

[1:32:30] at a a two truck level I think that's an ongoing budgeting

[1:32:35] thing no onment really quickly does that

[1:32:37] increase the number of trucks you're

[1:32:39] able to put out a daily or does that

[1:32:41] ensure that all the trucks are in a good

[1:32:43] maintenance like standard it is it is

[1:32:45] for more of a maintenance Factor um we

[1:32:48] see uh with the the older trucks when

[1:32:50] they break down uh there's a cost to

[1:32:53] Main maintain those and a lot of those

[1:32:55] have to be sent out for for a lot of the

[1:32:57] larger

[1:32:58] issues um so we' be sending uh uh

[1:33:02] usually it's 17 trucks going out daily

[1:33:06] and um it depends that that varies a

[1:33:09] little bit uh depending on uh the time

[1:33:12] of year for U yard waste and recycling

[1:33:17] it it's heavier sometimes so we do put

[1:33:19] out some more but we we try to put a

[1:33:22] constant number out daily

[1:33:25] thank next one be

[1:33:27] sweet Street Department

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[1:33:32] y uh two six wheel uh dump trucks with

[1:33:37] plow and spreader and then uh six whe

[1:33:40] dump truck with front plow uh Wing

[1:33:42] blades and a salt and

[1:33:44] spreader um our plow trucks are aging I believe

[1:33:51] um they are 06s that we're

[1:33:55] replacing

[1:33:57] 04 104 Paul 18y old 18 yeah yeah they're

[1:34:06] um as they were coming in last year they

[1:34:09] were coming in on the recer um they

[1:34:12] there wasn't a storm that we didn't have

[1:34:14] breakdowns with our CL fet

[1:34:17] um this is why we put them trying to

[1:34:19] replace it do you still run two people

[1:34:21] on a wing truck or no one too

[1:34:26] yeah any question on these Capital

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[1:34:38] items Water and

[1:34:40] Sewer you have water and sewer if you

[1:34:43] can

[1:34:46] just again I'll I I'll refer to fall I

[1:34:49] can go through this and uh um I I have

[1:34:53] very little involvement in water and

[1:34:54] sewer

[1:34:56] um sewer you know I deal with these guys

[1:34:59] but he he uh

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[1:35:04] he

[1:35:06] question let's go them you have question

[1:35:10] like well field uh is for the two

[1:35:13] existing Wells that want to revelop to

[1:35:15] with the wells that are there uh where

[1:35:18] know

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[1:35:22] where Road other Wells and then the

[1:35:25] water district repairs and improvements

[1:35:27] uh

[1:35:28] 350,000 that's for you know any

[1:35:31] Improvement that they doing on the water

[1:35:33] line throughout the city they need a van

[1:35:36] for the plumber and all these were going

[1:35:38] to be using a capital reserves uh so

[1:35:41] we're not borrowing any money for

[1:35:43] that and the sh this this is where you

[1:35:46] know it's you know power you but I just

[1:35:50] want to make one thing that there's a

[1:35:52] Wastewater replac bar screen designed

[1:35:55] only for like a million dollars uh and we put some as on the bottom say

[1:36:01] that that is going to determine what the

[1:36:04] cost is going to be

[1:36:06] but million $7 million more so just want

[1:36:09] to let you guys know that uh uh the

[1:36:14] utility cabs the truck and the was

[1:36:18] treatment equipment replacement we're

[1:36:20] going to be using the capital reserves

[1:36:22] and then we're going to borrow money for

[1:36:24] the the collection system repairs and

[1:36:26] Improvement uh the digestor which is

[1:36:29] he'll have to explain that to you

[1:36:31] because that's a a bit a quite a quite

[1:36:34] St and then

[1:36:37] again I just want to get out that so so

[1:36:39] that when you see them it put you your

[1:36:41] mind that have to ask them about this

[1:36:43] stuff yeah goad please maybe for the mayor or

[1:36:49] Anthony so the survey we got on the

[1:36:52] water you know what our water

[1:36:54] is that do we are is the city

[1:36:56] responsible for replacing anything from

[1:36:59] the any part of

[1:37:01] that and where would that money come

[1:37:03] from if we

[1:37:04] are there are scenarios where we would

[1:37:07] be responsible at this point we're doing

[1:37:09] the survey looking to line up for

[1:37:12] federal and state money that's going to

[1:37:13] be available for that so I'm not at this

[1:37:16] point assuming that there's going to be

[1:37:18] any expenditure of local

[1:37:21] dollars for any of those

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[1:37:25] remediations yeah Paul mentioned that to

[1:37:28] us possibility that stand look into

[1:37:33] there there is grant funding uh for

[1:37:35] talking about they um replacement for

[1:37:38] the survey there's um there is grant

[1:37:40] money that's 100% reimbursable to the

[1:37:42] city and what I would ask the council do

[1:37:44] is when you're out with groups or

[1:37:47] talking the individuals matter what

[1:37:49] you're talking about remind people to

[1:37:52] fill out their Sur

[1:37:54] send it in so that we have a

[1:37:56] better inventory of what's in the field

[1:38:00] and have a better way to estimate some

[1:38:02] of those potential

[1:38:05] costs any other

[1:38:08] questions seeing none thank you um all

[1:38:12] thank you Chris thank you everyone U any

[1:38:16] other business ofal finance I would like

[1:38:18] to reset Finance for Friday October 11

[1:38:21] 5:30 p.m. right here

[1:38:24] one so moved second all in favor thank

[1:38:27] you have a good night everyone thank you

[1:38:29] everyone

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[1:39:10] I

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[1:39:22] Ian

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Schenectady City Council Budget Meeting, October 10, 2024

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