[1:52] I can hear it on the Okay, >> we had the rim

[1:55] last week

[1:59] and he's you can see like all the smoke is from the valley.

[2:04] Yeah, we came back from the second launch the other morning that have a

[2:07] remark over the radio. Oh yeah, we better turn to that.

[2:34] Um, and we won't stream it. We'll just have it recording and then when the

[2:40] meeting's over, we'll we'll download it and upload it to YouTube. Okay.

[2:44] » It'll just be done after the meetings. Okay. No one's going to be able to

[2:48] » stream said airport meeting. >> Hey, William.

[2:51] » How's it going, man? >> Good. How are you?

[2:52] » Long time no see. >> Yeah, it's been a while.

[2:54] » We'll fix it afterwards. Yeah, we just can't get into that other But we're

[2:59] legal though. >> Oh, yeah. We're fine. Okay. Yeah, every

[3:01] as long as it's recording, we are fine. Awesome.

[3:03] » Thank you.

[3:09] » All right. So, let's get started. [clears throat] It is uh

[3:14] » they can hear us. Sorry. >> Can Rachel hear us?

[3:19] » You Oh, I didn't. >> Yeah, I can hear you.

[3:27] So, uh, this is the, uh, Grand County Airport Board. It's 4 o'clock on July

[3:33] 6th. I'll call this meeting to order.

[3:39] First of all, who's here? Randy, Jason, Dan, Jeff,

[3:47] Bill, Bill, Howard, whatever that Steve [laughter]

[3:55] Steve, >> we have Rachel.

[3:57] » Rachel's online. >> We have a listener from the yard. So,

[4:01] » okay. >> Enjoy.

[4:03] » All right. Any We do we have any citizens to be heard?

[4:08] » They can't hear us. It's not streaming, right? So, anybody online that wants to

[4:12] say anything? All right.

[4:17] First order of business, uh, approve the minutes from the June 1st, 2026 meeting.

[4:25] I'll make a motion to approve the June 1st, 2026 airport board. I'll

[4:31] second. >> Jason uh moves that we approve them as

[4:35] is and Howard seconds. All in favor? >> I

[4:40] » I unanimous. >> All right. I

[4:45] » Yeah. I [laughter]

[4:49] » All right. Um, Steve, you're up. Report director

[4:55] report. Okay, first off, um, let's talk about the Sky West Airlines schedule a

[5:00] little bit. Most of you should have had a chance to go through what they're

[5:04] proposing. Um, which is, um, October 1st start to

[5:12] Salt Lake. We're proposing an October 7th start to

[5:20] Denver. We are working really hard to see if we can't eliminate that 7-day gap

[5:27] in another way. So, I've spoken with Sky West about it. Um, they're looking for

[5:33] whatever way we might be able to keep that keep that running so that we don't

[5:38] lose that week. Uh, but Salt Lake will definitely start October 1st. Just to

[5:42] tell you what the issue is. Um because DOT took so long in making this

[5:48] decision. United requires a certain amount of training time and that's as

[5:54] fast as they think they can get it in. We're petitioning them to see if we

[5:58] can't condense that down a little bit um to make that October 1st date. So more

[6:05] to follow on that. I'm working with Sky West closely with Sky West to see if we

[6:09] can't make that happen. Also, while we're on the topic of Sky West,

[6:15] um, want to make sure that everybody understands that what if, if you read

[6:19] their posting for the jobs, um, read them closely because some of them say

[6:24] full-time positions with an S positions. So, it's easy to get confused and think

[6:30] there's maybe one full-time person, two full-time persons. Right now, they're

[6:34] proposing five full-time people. Um, which is, I believe, Rachel can correct

[6:40] me if I'm wrong. I believe is what Contour is doing as well. And then

[6:44] there'll be part-time positions along with that. Some of this will be seasonal

[6:48] as it is with Concour. You ramp up uh when it's busy and you slow down when

[6:54] it's not. Um, so >> we don't have we don't have seasonal

[6:59] employees. >> Oh, you don't? Okay. No,

[7:01] » I understood that you did, but that's totally okay. Um, we're working with Sky

[7:05] West to I was saying that because I thought Contour did that. Um, Sky West

[7:10] is not committed to doing that. So, we are certainly going to try and get uh

[7:15] the we should have the exact same level of employment. We're also working on

[7:19] making sure that they don't post a lower wage um which they've posted. So, all

[7:24] those things are still in flux and we are working hard to hold them hold their

[7:28] feet to that fire. So >> great.

[7:31] » Just FYI. Um the numbers from January and May.

[7:37] » One one question now the the winter off peak no flies to Salt Lake.

[7:43] » Yeah. Right now that is the plan. We'll see

[7:47] how but all of this can change depending on usage. It's like

[7:52] » that's what Sky West did last time. They didn't operate in the winter to Salt

[7:56] Lake. >> Yeah. It it's like we're stopping the

[7:58] Phoenix flights now in in the winter when the traffic goes down. It's just an

[8:05] off peak thing. If there's if there's enough usage, of course, they'll keep

[8:10] flying it. So, some of that just depends on how it turns out. The schedule can

[8:14] change as we find out who's using which flights,

[8:18] » right? But they if they're not scheduled flights, they can't book. So, we have no

[8:21] way of knowing. Right now they're proposing it based on um past

[8:25] performance, based on what happened last time they were here and also based a

[8:29] little bit on what contours Phoenix flight was doing. So they're kind of

[8:33] trying to look at all of that, piece together a schedule that gives us the

[8:36] most flights during the busiest times.

[8:42] » They shouldn't look too hard at the timing of their flights. Are they good

[8:46] that it roll food to other? >> Yes, they the the timing is to hit the

[8:51] hub to hit the hubs at the hub times. >> Okay.

[8:54] » Now, the problem is there's a hub coming and a hub going,

[8:58] » right? So, some of these were hitting the hub coming and some of these were

[9:00] hitting the hub going. So, it's when you got two flights a day, you can

[9:05] hit both. um when you get one flight a day, you're either hitting the hitting

[9:09] the hub time to go somewhere go in the middle or you're you're trying to get it

[9:14] somewhere in the middle so you can get you know everybody everybody connected.

[9:19] » Yeah. >> So yeah, that is also a topic for

[9:22] conversation with with them ongoing. >> Okay.

[9:27] » Other questions before we get to numbers?

[9:31] This is what's out there now. It's not

[9:35] necessarily what's going to be permanent.

[9:38] So, just FYI.

[9:44] » And last I looked, last I looked, we're unable to book right now,

[9:49] » right? Yeah. >> I haven't tried that. It was supposed to

[9:51] go online. >> Well, it be this Saturday.

[9:55] » Oh, >> I thought it was going to be I thought

[9:57] it was going to go online. >> This coming Saturday. Yes,

[10:00] » I'll tell Cody and confirm exactly when this will be live for booking. They

[10:05] waited for us to approve this schedule, which I told him just get get it out

[10:09] there as quickly as possible. So, I was on the phone with Cody today, but I did

[10:13] not ask that question. Cody from Sky West. So, I will I will ask that

[10:18] question. When will it be able to be blocked?

[10:25] And I will get that sent out to all of you tomorrow.

[10:29] So you don't have to wait till the next meeting. I'll have Sarah send out

[10:33] exactly what date we can expect it to go live online.

[10:38] Um so you can see our our operations again have have grown through May. Uh we

[10:45] expect they'll probably level June and start bumping off in July and August.

[10:53] That seems to have been the pattern. Um, days of the week, again, it's pretty

[10:57] consistent. Not much talked about there.

[11:03] Visiting versus based aircraft, still tracking that. Obviously, most of our

[11:08] most of our operations are from visiting aircraft, much fewer than base.

[11:18] You see which way the wind's going. We're uh doing a lot more on 21 than on

[11:24] 03 which

[11:28] seems like that should be bringing the smoke to us

[11:32] and a little less smoke as kind of anticipated.

[11:35] » Take off on 21. That's more just a function of shaping

[11:41] the airport. >> Yeah. No, for sure. You don't have to do

[11:44] as much taxing. If it's calm wind, obviously you're able to

[11:48] » up like 10 knots the other way >> or they're willing to make that long

[11:53] taxi. >> Yeah. Notice even the airlines, they

[11:57] will also take off with a fair amount of tails when it's cool, it's hot, they

[12:03] change, but >> yeah. Yeah.

[12:06] um when landings uh basically kind of the same information

[12:12] fuel flowage I don't know that we're up over last

[12:16] year not by a ton we were up a lot more in April than we were in May

[12:22] our fuel flow is still a little higher than it was last year in May

[12:27] and then the painful one fuel flowage jet A

[12:34] dramatically down from last year. Again, a lot of this is a function of

[12:39] changeover of of airlines. Also, employment's not growing quite as

[12:44] quickly um through this. Also, a factor that I think could be the

[12:51] changeover of airline coming. People are anticipating that um potentially not as

[12:56] much advertising rolling in as maybe it was before and promotion. So, I'm not

[13:01] overly concerned with that being down in May because I think it'll pick back up

[13:05] again after we have a more stable airline situation at the airport that

[13:11] we're not in flux. We'll talk about this, but I just wanted

[13:16] this picture. Did you all get this picture?

[13:20] » That's up there. It's the first P as the first aircraft to park on our new

[13:25] concrete >> parking apron.

[13:29] Um, >> Jud's going to give you a little more

[13:32] statistical relevance to that when we get to the construction portion, but I

[13:36] just wanted you to see that was our it's being used.

[13:39] » Thought you were showing us the smoke in the background. [laughter]

[13:41] » Well, that too. >> That too.

[13:46] » So, Steve, did you get any feedback from the firefighting aircraft? I know a lot

[13:50] of them are flying out of the old airport here in Moab.

[13:53] » Some of them aren't. And some of them are also flying out of Monaceel.

[13:57] » Yeah. And Blanding. Yeah, they're kind of just going they're going wherever

[14:00] they can go >> to get close to the fire and to get

[14:03] close to water. >> Okay.

[14:05] » Um >> yeah,

[14:06] » you know, one of our issues is you can't really fill anything up.

[14:09] » Okay. >> I'm just curious why so many at the old

[14:12] airport versus the Canyon Lands airport. Is it distance or is it

[14:16] » just to place the station? >> Is there a fuel flow charges?

[14:20] » Typically they bring their own fuel, >> right? So do they pay flowage at the

[14:25] airport? No, not you mean when >> there's no difference to them at the old

[14:29] airport or at the >> No, there shouldn't there shouldn't be.

[14:32] We typically have not charged a fuel flowage fee.

[14:35] » Yeah. So, they're just doing it like convenience then is closer to that.

[14:40] » Yeah. There are other fees we we might look at charging them, but fuel flowage

[14:44] is not one of them. >> Okay.

[14:46] » Yeah. It's it's mostly convenience, number of people, proximity to

[14:51] other things um where they can go take a shower and have a place to sleep.

[14:56] » I'm sure they're probably camping out at the airport.

[14:59] » So, it's >> we're just so far from like

[15:04] » a lot a good water source right now that I I think that is part of it.

[15:08] » Okay. But the ones that come out here like it.

[15:11] They they don't like the light placement near our new hopefully helipad. But uh

[15:19] we'll discuss that at another time. J and I are working through some ideas

[15:23] about that. So we'll get there. The next thing that you have in your packet is

[15:29] the idea for the front entrance road. >> You have slides on this or

[15:35] » um I can pull them up or they're the ones in the packet for the road.

[15:39] get out of the pack. >> Oh,

[15:42] not in the in the online packet there. So, we can we can pull it up. Um,

[15:49] » the ones there. >> Um, those are the ones I can

[15:53] » that's the first one. I think we they go past that one and it gets a little more

[15:57] detailed. >> Yeah. Yeah.

[15:58] » So, we kind of show the scope of the work and what what's going to be

[16:01] happening. The first thing I want to tell everybody is I just made a

[16:04] unilateral decision that we're going to wait and do this in July of next year.

[16:09] Um rather than do that while we're doing a a changeover of an airline. And uh

[16:16] there's I think all of us at the airport right now are uh it's a good problem to

[16:21] have. We've got a little construction fatigue. Um there's just so much been

[16:26] happening um that we just think I just think it would be better if we waited

[16:31] and tore up our entry road after we're a little more established and we do it at

[16:36] a slow point >> in the airport July rather than doing it

[16:41] at a busy time of the airport uh in October right when we're right when

[16:47] we're having airlines. >> I totally agree with you on that. Is

[16:50] there a chance for additional funding if we wait till next summer at all? Is that

[16:55] part of the >> I don't think so. In in fact, um if

[17:00] anything, it's going to depend on what oil prices do. The price of the project

[17:04] could actually go up. Uh it's just it's just a bad time, I think, for us to be

[17:10] shutting down the airport. And so if we lose a little bit of the

[17:16] project, uh we'll we'll choose the part we lose

[17:21] judiciously. Um but hopefully we can get the whole thing bid and and paid for in

[17:26] July just as soon as we can here. In the meantime, uh we're going to go ahead and

[17:30] kind of split it, I think, is what we decided. And the engineering for it is

[17:33] going to be going forward so that we'll be ready to rock. Um the intent is going

[17:39] out to bid January. that we mean obviously we're we've been working on

[17:44] the intention of building it this fall for the design aspects of it. Um we'll

[17:50] kind of back off and reallocate resources and basically go for getting

[17:54] design finished by the end of the year to go out to bid in January which is

[17:59] always a very good time uh for bidding project. We'll just bid it with the

[18:04] intention of hey this is not going to be a March 1st start date. is going to be

[18:08] probably the June July timeline for construction

[18:11] » July August timeline. >> Yeah. And this is something that can't

[18:15] be done in the winter because of the asphalt.

[18:18] » So it's a seasonal correct the asphalt plants are

[18:24] in the while it's not set in stone November 15th to April 1st no asphalt.

[18:32] um they will either run it a little bit later in the year or start a little bit

[18:37] earlier depending upon what those schedules look like. But generally

[18:42] speaking, unless the contractor who has the project is the one who's also making

[18:48] the asphalt, they will always open up their asphalt plants if they can get

[18:53] work out of it, but they won't do it to sub as much. If there's anyone that's

[18:58] going to get early work, they're going to do it or asphalt manufacturers, which

[19:02] » isn't necessarily something you would want anyway for curing and just doing it

[19:08] when it's cold. It just doesn't cure properly. It'll crack. It's It's not a

[19:11] good time to do it. >> Um, as far as Oh, I I skipped ahead to

[19:18] entry roads. I wasn't reading our agenda very closely. Um, so we issued our first

[19:27] as far as I know, the first written uh letter to someone for uh

[19:34] violation of rules. We're not going to bring up who it was or publicly shame

[19:39] anyone, but just as a reminder to everyone, when you stop, you must wait

[19:45] for the gate to close completely before proceeding.

[19:52] We're not a sight airport, but we do still have to follow those rules. If we

[19:56] were a side airport, it becomes a pretty serious violation. Here we have

[20:02] some escalation clauses. You blow the gate gate once, we're going to talk to

[20:06] you. You're going to come back in and get retrained. You blow the gate twice,

[20:10] you're going to come back in, get retrained, and get a formal letter

[20:14] written to you. And if you're employed by someone, your employer, it's going to

[20:17] go to me, it's going to go to, you know, whoever needs to see it. If it happens a

[20:23] third time, we start restricting gate access for a period of time where if you

[20:28] work at the airport, that can be pretty detrimental to your career. So,

[20:34] um we're hoping that this we can keep this stuff under control and make sure

[20:39] everybody's obeying these rules. So, that was our one real incident that we

[20:43] had um to report as far as I the board wanted to it's sort of an incident

[20:49] accident report. Does it have repercuss repercussions against the company if

[20:52] they work for somebody >> or the

[20:54] » well their employee can't their employee can't get in the door

[20:57] » right there's nothing like >> oh because your employee did this we're

[21:00] going to restrict your access business. >> We don't we don't do that. It's an

[21:05] individual issue and everybody gets trained by the same

[21:10] people. So, everybody should know exactly what the rules are. And

[21:15] [clears throat] yeah, we just had one that was a repeat offender and we

[21:18] actually let it go longer than we should have before

[21:23] writing a frontal letter. So, we've just taken it to step two. As far as I know,

[21:26] it's the first time we've ever had to do that. So,

[21:30] I think everybody's doing doing pretty good. Usually just verbal warning and

[21:34] retraining gets it done. Um, so that's it. Unless unless we have some

[21:39] questions. I'll talk some more when we get down to the construction portion.

[21:45] Any questions?

[21:48] Just know that we're going to continue to work with Sky Last um to try and make

[21:52] this change over as smooth as we possibly can, but there's no way to do

[21:57] it perfectly smoothly. There's going to there's going to be bumps in the road,

[22:00] but I'm working closely with Mark Ragio in DC with Sky West uh to make sure we

[22:05] can make it as smooth as possible. >> Hey, hey, Steve.

[22:10] » Yes. >> I just wanted to clarify that on Sky

[22:12] West um web site for jobs, their career page for their agents. It says this is a

[22:19] part-time position starting at $16 per hour. their agents will be will be hire

[22:25] will be hired as part-time, >> which is the conversation that Cody and

[22:30] I had today. He's got to go through a little bit of a board process before

[22:33] they can start changing that. Um, but he and I were on the phone together uh

[22:39] today for about an hour and that was the major topic of conversation was to make

[22:45] sure that that um hourly rate is raised to a living wage in Moab. I I need them

[22:53] to take what they did was just took all their EAS

[22:57] airports and just kind of got something out there as quickly as possible.

[23:00] They're now going out and reviewing that because they do need to start training

[23:04] people. They do need to start. So, they just kind of got something out there

[23:07] quick. Um but yeah, I'm still talking to him about that. Um gave him some new

[23:12] numbers that we want him to shoot for and I'll be talking to him again

[23:15] tomorrow. >> Well, yeah, that I mean that's what they

[23:17] promised, right? Full-time positions and and our wage.

[23:24] And so, yeah, we're definitely going to hold them to to what they what they said

[23:29] they would do. Had that conversation today

[23:34] and we'll continue. Any other questions?

[23:43] Oh, okay. We're we're going to be working also on uh what the contract

[23:48] looks like. We've got several examples of Sky West contracts with other EAS

[23:53] airports. We've got several examples of um contracts from Contour and Denver Air

[24:00] connections with other airports. They're all public record because these are EAS

[24:06] federally funded. So, we're looking at those and creating a matrix. I think you

[24:09] guys have the matrix already. We're we're just going to see if we can pick

[24:14] the best parts out and make sure our contract is good. Actually,

[24:21] » can they add that to the contract? >> What?

[24:26] » Yeah, >> if we can certainly try. It'll be it'll

[24:31] be what I'll

[24:36] » You know, I'm just I'm just trying to look out for my agents. They can't work

[24:39] part-time at $16 an hour. That it's just not feasible.

[24:42] » No, I'm I totally am with you and I understand that. And if we can get that

[24:46] into the contract, we definitely will. Some things some things are governed

[24:51] more by uh the Fed and some things are governed more by the airport and the

[24:56] airline. So, we're still working our way through which is which. And um we're

[25:02] going to get everything into that contract that we can to make sure we

[25:05] have a solid written document. I also think contour or iOS going to re

[25:12] is realized pretty quickly when they start offering people part-time work

[25:15] that they're not going to find people to take. No.

[25:17] » No. Especially if you have if you have to go home and come back for for a

[25:21] two-flight situation when we're so far. >> I think there are a lot of things that

[25:26] they're that they're the person that put it out on the web did not take into

[25:31] account, but I'm I'm dealing with them at the vice president level and and

[25:35] we'll try and get those worked out. And I've talked to a couple people that have

[25:38] interviewed who I I asked them like, "Did they offering you part-time or

[25:42] full-time?" They were like, "No, it's full time." So,

[25:45] » um, so I think that maybe it is a weapon.

[25:48] » Yeah. I think I think they're got to get that fixed as quickly as possible. But

[25:52] yeah, just know we're working on it

[25:58] » for your people, too, Rachel. We I I want them to be taken care of, too. I I

[26:04] I don't want anybody getting hurt. over this change.

[26:12] » That's it. >> Okay, back to you, Bill.

[26:16] » Do uh why don't we let Bill go first and

[26:23] on your county? >> Yeah, there's a lot going on in the

[26:28] county right now. We're in the middle of the shuttle

[26:33] to the end of Arches process. That'll be a big discussion tomorrow.

[26:38] We um I know there's been some side discussions with um Mick and the

[26:44] liaison, which is Brian Martinez, regarding the advertising that's coming

[26:50] up with Sky West. So, we don't have anything rolled out yet, but I know that

[26:56] they're trying to um parallel some TRT money alongside the

[27:02] Sky West money so that we can reach a broader group there. And I think that

[27:07] they're also trying to pinpoint the slow times of the year as well. So, that's

[27:13] going on.

[27:18] What else are we in the middle of? We got all kinds of stuff going on, but I

[27:22] think that's mostly airport related. You know, I do think that um with Sky West

[27:28] coming in here and the shuttle at the same time, those two are both going to

[27:32] hopefully open up some doors to the rental business at the airport. So,

[27:38] and and as well as the shuttle business. So, we should see some change there. I I

[27:44] don't know. That's probably Howard's realm, but curious to hear how the

[27:48] trains running and what's going on there when we get to that point. So,

[27:54] but that's all I got. >> Okay, Jason.

[27:57] » Um, so the city has has a ton of projects that are out to bid, you know,

[28:03] um, such as continuing sidewalks, the ball fields, um, roads, um, and

[28:11] some flood mitigation things. that we have all these things that are just kind

[28:14] of we're waiting for for it to come back. So, I think in the next couple

[28:17] months we're going to be super busy kind of approving some projects, things

[28:20] going. Um, kind of the big thing that we've had this month was um was what to

[28:26] do with with the fireworks situation and the fire situation. So that was kind of

[28:31] a big deal we've been dealing with the last two two two and a half weeks is

[28:35] coming up with the moratorum or whatever you want to call it on the fireworks ban

[28:41] within the city limits which took a lot of work to kind of get that done with

[28:46] with the state. So yeah got it done all I have right now.

[28:56] It seemed like it was pretty good. I didn't see any major

[29:02] issues with fireworks. Did you? >> No. That night everybody was quite

[29:06] respectful. Actually, >> I talked to some firefighters who said

[29:09] that they didn't even hear fireworks at that idea.

[29:12] » I didn't either. I mean, I right here. >> Yeah. And so I thought it was great that

[29:16] everybody kind of heated that. >> Yeah. Me, too. Yeah.

[29:21] » I think that was a big deal because even last year I can remember they were going

[29:25] all over. >> Yeah. Now we just got to get through the

[29:29] the 24th. >> I know. And I think that that's kind of

[29:32] we gota So the fire ban goes till July 30th, but it has to kind of be

[29:38] re-evaluated by the city for a few weeks to see if that still can hold up, you

[29:44] know. So >> that's it. That's all I have.

[29:49] » All right. How um kind of a lot of pro projects underway including a lot of

[29:54] advertising. Obviously, we're waiting for the SEC or the UDOT for the decision

[29:59] to announce Sky West. Um, I do recommend even though we don't have a board

[30:05] meeting this month, that the travel office gets a goes ahead and kind of

[30:08] gets things going as you said, Bill, and we'll go ahead and approve that next

[30:12] month. I'm all waiting for it to happen. Um, a report from the returns this year.

[30:18] Obviously, the county works in a two-month debt um behind, you know, when

[30:22] the numbers come in, but it was the first the first quarter of this year. I

[30:26] heard it was the first positive quarter of growth of the county in four years.

[30:31] So, I'd like to say that um the role of marketing being re-engaged as it has

[30:36] been in the last couple years has impacted our visitation here. also

[30:41] caveat the fact that there was no snow this winter and it'll be interesting to

[30:45] see how the second quarter results come in. But certainly transient room taxes

[30:49] are trending way above the budgets. Restaurant taxes on the other hand are

[30:53] actually quite a bit in decline. They're about 34% down. We're doing a check in

[30:57] to see if the number reporting is correct. It's seen as quite an anomaly.

[31:02] So, but so far so good. Um so things seem to be gradually coming back into

[31:06] Moab and we're doing all we can to continue that um progression.

[31:14] » All right. Anybody else want to report except Jud? You want to take your

[31:19] you want to take do your >> um is it possible? You should be able to

[31:24] share a screen. Correct. >> Did you want me to back up?

[31:28] » Uh no. I'm sharing something else that worked up this morning. kind of

[31:34] family vacation pictures. Yes,

[31:40] » you should be able to share. >> Okay. Yeah. Um they're not.

[31:43] [clears throat] Okay.

[31:48] Um really go since the road's going to be

[31:54] pushed. But basically just what we're looking just as a very very quick

[31:59] preview. the road the entrance road will be happening in phases. It will be a lot

[32:03] of signage a lot and this is why the complication arises is um let me zoom in

[32:10] as much as I can. Um you know on the first phase we have

[32:16] no overnight parking in front of the terminal open parking in

[32:21] the large parking lot. No overnight parking. The reason for that is you

[32:24] don't want someone to get on a plane, go for a vacation for three weeks, come

[32:28] back and forfeit it between them and the exit.

[32:32] » So, um just kind of that long. >> How far south does that extend? Does it

[32:37] go in front of our ners or is it short? >> Uh the project will hit all of the road,

[32:43] not necessarily parking spots, but the road from property line to the automatic

[32:48] gate. >> Right. So,

[32:50] » so will we have no parking for a certain period?

[32:53] » For a certain period, so during this first phase, no, you daily parking in

[32:58] front of the hangers, but um long term, the only thing would be available

[33:03] terminal parking lot [clears throat] for us.

[33:06] » The second phase will be very impactful. Um

[33:13] the rental car area will basically be uh in access

[33:20] for construction. Um, again, no overnight parking. We'll work out the

[33:23] details, but possibly rental cars in front of the main terminal building

[33:27] because there the rental car parking right now will be the main thri for

[33:32] construction traffic. Um, and obviously that road will be be completely torn up.

[33:38] So, no parking there. Pedestrians will have to access through a temporary

[33:44] walking path for general aviation businesses and u GA tenants um or in a

[33:53] longer walk over to the terminal building.

[33:56] The third phase uh we'll build a secondary kind of

[34:03] temporary dirt road right at the entrance to go around while we do the

[34:07] main entrance portion. By this point, we'd have access to the parking.

[34:13] Um, but by this point, be able to drive in all the way up through the gate.

[34:19] » How much time is each one of those phases? Roughly,

[34:22] » uh, roughly right now where we're at is 25 days phase one, 10 days phase two

[34:28] because there's some carryover. Um, and 10 days phase three. So, 45day

[34:34] project. on will impact the the entry gate so we'll have another way to get

[34:40] around um so that skydive can continue to get people in and we'll have accesses

[34:47] with signage telling the access but phase one is the longest one because

[34:51] that's the one where the hole is in the front of u the fire building and we're

[34:56] going to have to go deeper there's a little more it's a little more involved

[34:59] there >> but it it's impossible to see on this

[35:03] resolution but we This is addressing pedestrians

[35:09] u the commercial terminal or commercial traffic vehicles of general aviation or

[35:15] airport businesses versus rental versus um taking into account fire access

[35:21] taking into account EMS access for getting care flights out uh fuel

[35:26] deliveries um there will be a portion would actually have to utilize boot

[35:30] hills were most likely to escort same way that the large asphalt trucks are

[35:34] delivering right now um to escort fuel trucks up there.

[35:39] » Yeah. >> Will we lose access to the fuel farm at

[35:42] some point? >> Uh

[35:46] » no, [clears throat] >> you might have to take you might have to

[35:50] take a different route, but you're not going to do it, but I can always get to

[35:54] the tanks. >> Always going to be able to fuel tank.

[35:56] » There might be some, you know, short crossover times where the it might be

[36:02] » deliverable. That's the whole idea of having this plan that we can then now

[36:06] we'll be >> uh teasing out over the next 12 months.

[36:11] » Okay. >> Yeah. Luckily, we have now plenty of

[36:13] time to revise and look at other ways to do it. So,

[36:17] » yeah. So, uh next is the uh

[36:24] this is the apron. I just kind of wanted to give you an overview of what what was

[36:29] actually done out there. We're still waiting on some test results to so we

[36:33] can work out getting contractor paid, making sure everything meets passes all

[36:37] the long-term testing standards. Obviously, not going to pay for

[36:41] something if it's bad. Um, but you also saw that it took significantly longer

[36:46] than we had scheduled um due to some problems with their paving. So the very

[36:53] first day ate a control strip and uh then we ripped out two/3 but

[37:02] uh came up with different designs uh then came back and paved another section

[37:08] as a control strip actually passed enabled them to start going forward. Uh

[37:12] then did what we're looking at is it's hard to tell but there's little dots

[37:18] here A through K 1 through 32. Those are those 18 by 18 foot blocks of concrete.

[37:25] Um so started doing them in pairs. Poured that one on our third pore. Then

[37:30] we ripped that out. Um

[37:35] then had a really good I you know thought we had a or they thought they

[37:38] had a good solution and did that. Uh so then they came back

[37:44] did a smaller section made them rip that out. When they ripped that out, they

[37:49] also broke part of the good part behind it.

[37:52] » Um, then they came back and filled in that

[37:56] original strip from the first day. We're now by this point in time off the

[38:02] original schedule where they should have been completed. Now they're getting back

[38:06] to finally finishing day one. Um, next time build out the end,

[38:14] added in smaller portions, got things paved, and I don't know if you saw this

[38:19] kind of very small portions paid on the end, but that enabled the asphalt to be

[38:24] paid. So, this is all the concrete. The asphalt is the darker gray that

[38:28] surrounds it. by doing these last final sections that enable them to come back

[38:33] and do the asphalt paving to try to get that make sure that's open

[38:39] before the current apron job is happening. Um then they finally finished

[38:45] everything out. Um, when it was all said and done,

[38:51] uh, they did 10,300

[38:56] square yards of concrete and 11,000 square yards of asphalt. So, 21,000

[39:03] square ft. Biggest parking lot in Grand County is City Market.

[39:08] And City Market is for just under 15,000 square yards. So, this is almost Imagine

[39:17] all city market just being concrete where the cars are at where the overall

[39:21] projects 50% larger than the biggest parking lot. And this is just that side.

[39:26] You know, this is the new expanded parking. So, it really was a monumental

[39:30] project that will benefit the airport lock.

[39:34] So, it might have been some struggles and some uh difficulties for the tenants

[39:40] and recognize that. But you do have something great at the end that will

[39:44] last for decades. So do you think that we need to write

[39:49] into the specs that they batch on site in future projects? I mean that is the

[39:54] issue is by the time that mud gets >> the time was one of the biggest aspects

[39:59] and they we can't tell them explicitly how to do

[40:06] that work. It's >> it's way FA works is they you just have

[40:11] a spec. You can't tell somebody how to meet the spec. They just have to

[40:15] guarantee they will meet the spec. That recommendation was made to them multiple

[40:20] times. Um, and they didn't meet the spec as a result.

[40:25] » I think that if they did it again, I think they would put the batch plant in

[40:30] because was monumentally unprofitable for them. this

[40:38] project. >> Every one of those red blocks indicated

[40:40] an area where they paid they spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on

[40:44] concrete and time and materials, then had to rip it out, then put it back in,

[40:50] and they're only getting paid. So, they paid

[40:52] » they paid 20 30% of the project twice at their own

[40:58] cost. >> So, eventually, did they batch it out

[41:00] there? >> Yeah.

[41:03] » Uh they started they changed how they were running their trucks. So again, we

[41:08] can't tell them exactly how uh their batch plant runs 8 cubic yards at a

[41:13] time. They started out with 10 cubic yard doing 10 cubic yard loads to

[41:19] minimize how much many trips they needed to make out. Well, that resulted out of

[41:24] the first 32 panels, 24 of them getting ripped out.

[41:31] Yeah. comp test sample because just the carryover that going try to get that

[41:37] extra two cubic yards tacked on 10 minutes on each load 15 minutes on each

[41:41] load. So started coming back. >> So what we can do though Bill is we can

[41:48] charge um damages to people when they take too long. So if

[41:55] this happens you can build into the contract liquidated damage.

[41:58] » Did we have LDS built into this? >> Yes. And did they end up going into LDS?

[42:04] » Uh, it comes down to the whether the county chooses to impose. Uh, but yes,

[42:11] yes, they did go into LDS. Um, >> and what are the LDS daily?

[42:15] » I I can't remember if it's 1750 or 2250. I think on this one it was 1750 a day

[42:24] to the tune of about 40 days. But that's that is the only way we have

[42:29] kind of a holding fee to fire. So

[42:34] » that will be a discussion that we'll be having with you

[42:38] and then in turn with them once we get all of the final testing data back.

[42:43] » Do we have any projects coming up that require concrete out at the airport in

[42:47] the f future in the next I don't care. >> Not in the short term. No. So it's we're

[42:53] kind of over the hump on the concrete for right now.

[42:56] » Yes. Anything that would would be minor curb and gutter type stuff.

[43:00] » Yeah. Yeah. >> That doesn't have to be

[43:04] » and taxi would still be asphalt. Any anything any of the other airport

[43:08] pavements would be asphalt

[43:15] » for some time. It's not a concern one or the other.

[43:20] And now we are fortunate I don't have I'll stop sharing. Um

[43:26] we I don't I only have live pictures. I forot I don't have any on my computer

[43:32] for the other project going. >> You were going to bring those back.

[43:36] » I Yeah, I thought they were on here.

[43:42] » So yeah, we've got the first phase is done. Um we're waiting for the final

[43:48] test results of that. We got the first round of test results and we're waiting

[43:51] for the finals. Um, they milled out the other section today.

[43:57] » And you, if you didn't go out and watch that milling machine work, you missed it

[44:02] now. It is It's hypnotic. It takes out this much asphalt just as it's

[44:09] » wow >> driving down and dumps it into a dump

[44:11] truck. It's >> pretty incredible to watch. This

[44:14] project's been going really smooth, really well. So, and we were able to

[44:19] with the the money we got from this is what I wanted to point out. If we had a

[44:23] picture with with the with the money we were able to get from the county to do a

[44:28] little closer to that 50ft section in front of those buildings, we're able to

[44:32] get the worst of it. So, the most failed asphalt, we're able to completely mill

[44:37] that out and replace it with 6 in of asphalt. So, we got the worst of it

[44:42] taken care of. It's not the full width of the hanger,

[44:47] but that was >> No, it got the worst. It's the part that

[44:51] was unraveling. >> Yeah. Moving on.

[44:54] » Yeah. >> Um, that one's going well. Again, the

[44:58] road will rework for the entrance road and then pay for maintenance to be

[45:02] later. >> How we doing on time on the

[45:06] » the current apron job? Uh, I think we're as of today, I think we're one day ahead

[45:11] of schedule. Um

[45:15] depending on because they actually not only mil everything but they actually

[45:19] have have to hold the uh gra the first layer. Um it will be the similar process

[45:25] if you were there for the first phase where they basically take they're taking

[45:29] the whole area that they've mil. They're digging out 30 in deep. They will haul

[45:34] that away for right now. Then they will dig out the rest down to 5t. Dump it on

[45:40] the other half of the project. get that material worked in, move that section

[45:46] back on, work that material in, be ready to go.

[45:52] » PSJ has been good to work with and uh >> really good. It's been really some these

[45:57] guys are on top of their game. >> What contractor is this?

[46:01] » TSJ.

[46:05] » Land was their sub for paving. They did better paving than they did

[46:12] with the concrete, but not by much. >> So, we'll hopefully have the we will

[46:19] have um the final testing stuff this week from the phase one paving.

[46:28] » Do we want to talk about the light poles or something?

[46:31] » No, let's I'll talk to you about it. Um >> yeah, because we are getting questions.

[46:36] I know that >> it's Yeah, we'll we'll we'll talk about

[46:42] it online. >> Okay.

[46:47] » And yeah, that so that handles all of the the past project or the current

[46:53] project and the next few project maintenance and value.

[47:00] » Hey, Steve, I think it's back to you for airport leases.

[47:03] » A couple of things to discuss about airport leases.

[47:06] with the easiest ones. Um, just waiting for Laurel to get her survey points in

[47:12] um for her first row of hangers that she would she would like to build. So, she's

[47:17] got a surveyor. Um, she called me today. I wasn't able to talk to her. Today was

[47:20] kind of a a crazy day, but I'll get with her tomorrow and see where we're at. So,

[47:24] those are still moving forward, still planned. Um, just need to get some

[47:28] survey markers in and some policy decisions made and we'll be moving on

[47:33] that. One of the policy decisions is the difference between 20 feet between

[47:38] hangers and 30 feet between hangers. Um 30 feet between hangers lowers the cost

[47:45] of construction dramatically,

[47:49] but it takes up an extra 10 ft of space where we could be putting hangers. Um

[47:58] I think there's two ways that we can look at this and this will be something

[48:00] I will write up and we can have as a discussion item uh or a vote item at a

[48:05] future board meeting. Uh we can say that if we have joined hangers like

[48:11] condominiumized hangers like T hangers that are all in a row, we're basically

[48:15] saving that 20 ft of space in between each one of those if they were

[48:19] individual hangers. So, putting 30 feet between those and the one next to them

[48:25] might be one way we can go with it because if hangers are together, you're

[48:29] saving the space that you're losing. Uh, for single hangers, we stick with the 20

[48:33] ft. Um, that's just one of the ideas I'm floating as a concept. I'll have

[48:38] something more written up for you of how it actually impacts the space um later.

[48:45] We're just kind of starting to look down these things. So, that's first on

[48:48] leases. um still have some of those pipelines still looking at getting some

[48:54] of those hangers done. Uh particularly uh Skydive Moab um which

[49:00] should be moving dirt here pretty soon to get that one started. Uh the other

[49:05] thing about leases is again one of these things I'm going to have to write up for

[49:09] you so that we can have it as a discussion item because I'm we're not

[49:12] ready to vote on it tonight and I don't have the information for you but I want

[49:15] to give you a heads up. Um, some of our leases are very vague and some of them

[49:22] are kind of all over the map as we go through the leases uh as far as what

[49:25] people are paying and what people uh what their terms are. Um, it's kind of

[49:30] everywhere, but the one thing every lease has

[49:34] um in it is they are all subordinate to the minimum standards and to the airport

[49:41] rules and rags. So, if we want to clean up some of the leases, some of them are

[49:46] very long-term. The way we can do that is through minimum standards um made

[49:53] statute at the county. So, these are some discussions that we're going to

[49:57] have to be having here in the next little while. The other part about

[50:00] leases as we dig into these things as we find out that there are many sublet

[50:07] hangers around uh we need to decide as an airport if

[50:11] we're okay with subleting. Right now it looks like uh as an airport we are

[50:16] because it's been working out for pretty much everybody. Um, one thing I would

[50:21] like to do, however, is make sure that any hanger that is being sublet, we have

[50:25] a separate sublet agreement with the subleases.

[50:30] One of the issues that we have is we don't know who's in some of these

[50:33] hangers. I mean, we don't have any way to contact them. Um, if there was an

[50:38] issue, we we uh don't do this. So, I told you I came from two schools of

[50:42] thought. Provo, we just didn't allow subleting at all. uh Reton, we did allow

[50:47] subleting, but the sublet agreement also had to be signed by the airport so that

[50:53] we knew who was in there. So, you have to have an agreement with the person

[50:56] you're subleting to. And we have to know how much you're charging that person.

[51:02] Does that person also have insurance? Do you have hangerkeeper liability

[51:06] insurance? Um just some of these different things.

[51:10] And these are things we're just going to have to come to policy decisions on

[51:14] where we want to go. And and when we come to have that conversation, I'm

[51:18] going to I'm going to give you all information on both sides of it so that

[51:22] we can all discuss it openly how we want to proceed because that is something

[51:27] we'll build into the minimum standards. If you are going to sublet your hanger,

[51:32] the minimum standard for being a a sasso is what it's called, a a special air

[51:39] service operation. Hangarkeepering is one of those operations and there is a

[51:44] specific set of rules that we can put in place that you have to follow to do

[51:48] that. One of them is insurance u and one of them is separate sublessie

[51:54] agreements. So, just an FYI, that's we're a ways away from that yet. We're

[51:59] still working our way through it. I'm just trying to identify areas of concern

[52:03] that we need to um start looking at sooner rather than later. Um

[52:11] and again, it's more of a liability issue for me. Need to know who's who's

[52:16] there. I know some of them, but um we don't know all of them. We have

[52:18] agreements for some of them, um but not all of them. Uh so I think it would be

[52:24] important that we that we put something like that in place but again until I

[52:27] have something set up to do that with um it's just a discussion item that we can

[52:33] have. Uh the just one question on on the is this also going to encompass uh

[52:41] nightly or weekly rentals? Is that lease subleasasing? What is

[52:45] that? We're going to have to talk about

[52:51] that's that's another topic. Do we want to allow someone to do a nightly sublet?

[52:59] If so, then that there should be a minimum standard built in to do that. It

[53:04] should be addressed in our minimum standards. You can do a nightly, but

[53:07] here's the process that you have to follow to do that as a business. Um,

[53:14] » does that fall under our FBO at all? nightly and weekly. Those short-term

[53:19] rentals, I would say, should be done through the FBO because that's where you

[53:23] already have the blanket of coverage of insurance coverage. Uh, that would come

[53:29] all of those people would come in under that umbrella. If we try and do nightly

[53:34] sublets at every different hanger, it's going to be almost impossible for us to

[53:39] keep track of who's here, who's not, um, in the event of any issue of liability.

[53:44] In a sense, then you would be creating competition for our revenue.

[53:48] » Exactly. [clears throat] >> True. And I don't want to do that. We

[53:52] need to protect and that's going to be one of the next things we're gonna talk

[53:54] about here. Um protecting revenue streams for the FBO. As you guys have

[53:59] heard from me about a million times. Um nobody comes into an airport and says,

[54:04] "Gosh, that airport director and staff, they're really good." They they don't

[54:07] know we're even there if we're doing a really good job. they they see our

[54:12] terminal and they see our FBO. So, it's really important to have a good strong

[54:16] FBO. In order to have a good strong FBO, you have to be able to protect some of

[54:19] those revenue streams um that that FBOs's are beholden to because your

[54:25] minimum standards require your FBOs to do a lot of different things for the

[54:31] right to sell the fuel. [clears throat] So, we require a lot of them. And if

[54:37] we're not requiring as much of the people who are coming in and competing

[54:42] with them, um, that is an unfair advantage against the FBO. So that's why

[54:48] I want to tighten up those minimum standards is to try to help protect some

[54:52] of those revenue streams that traditionally should belong to the FBO.

[54:57] Is that making sense to everybody? There are also some things with your FBO that

[55:01] you should do in my opinion um to make the FBO more profitable and

[55:06] more able to be strong. And one of those things is uh

[55:11] that's the only person or the only entity on the airfield in my opinion uh

[55:16] that should have different lease terms than

[55:22] the rest of the airfield. FBO and ASO. If you are a if you are qualified

[55:29] minimum standard ASO, there are some of those that we might be able to build in

[55:32] some some favorable lease terms. One of those is a longer lease.

[55:38] So, if we give the FBO a little bit longer lease, they have more ability to

[55:45] finance their operation because as leases expire, you know, buildings

[55:51] » What's ASO? >> Oh, sorry. Air service operator.

[55:54] » Do we have any of those? >> Oh, sure. Skydive Mand service operator.

[55:58] » I get it. >> Yeah. So, and there are [clears throat]

[56:02] more that are operating that. >> Yeah. We have the balloon people and

[56:07] some others out there. >> Yeah.

[56:10] » Well, there's some others that are doing some other things that we don't have any

[56:13] minimum standards preventing them from doing it. So, they're not having to meet

[56:17] the same qualifications as the FBO. Anyway, it's it's tricky and it's

[56:21] complicated when you only have one FBO, but we can't support more than one FBO

[56:26] at the airfield. We just don't don't sell enough fuel. Um because you want to

[56:31] be careful because it is a monopoly. You do have to

[56:35] build some things into your minimum standards to make sure that you um kind

[56:39] of keep everything fair and above board. And again, this is just the beginning.

[56:42] This is the opening of this conversation. I think I've mentioned

[56:46] here before and Jed can back me up on this. more airport directors have been

[56:49] fired over rewriting the minimum standards than almost any other topic.

[56:54] Um, so it's a tough one. It's >> looking to move on.

[56:58] » It's a tough one to move into, but it's one I think that this airport really,

[57:03] really needs. Um, partly to protect the FBO. Uh, in light of that, the current

[57:09] FBO uh lease was signed in 2023 um for all of their hangers. How many

[57:17] years is that for? >> Well, what I'm saying is we're going to

[57:20] make those all 50. >> I see.

[57:23] » From 2023 on, we're going to do 50-year leases for the FBO. Now, what we do for

[57:29] the rest of the of the airfield, let's talk and let's decide what's good. What

[57:34] we decided in Provo was 40, a 30-year to 5 years. Why? Because for tax purposes,

[57:39] that gives you the ability to depreciate out the entire value of building. I

[57:43] believe that's still the case. But um so for most people we do 40. For the FBO we

[57:50] do 50. Now we would build that in some of these leases that are almost unending

[57:56] currently. We would build that in by statute in the minimum standards and the

[58:02] rules and regs stating no individual airport lease can exceed

[58:09] a period of this amount of time without written consent from the count the

[58:15] airport sponsor. All right. So, I'm I'm letting you know this is the direction

[58:20] that I'm hoping to move us and we will have many many discussions along the

[58:25] way, but this is uh kind of I've been here a year now. I

[58:31] have a pretty good feel for for what's going on out there, for which direction

[58:35] we're going. Um, and so we're going to be having these these tougher

[58:42] discussions and tougher votes over the next coming months. And I I realize that

[58:47] that's going to be right while we're also prepping for an airline changeover.

[58:50] But um we've just got to get started now and we feel like we're in a position

[58:55] where where we can finally we got a stable staff and um

[59:02] you know so we're working hard on that. Um

[59:05] » Sarah Sarah's been doing a great job. >> So as you build this idea, great idea.

[59:10] Uh we also need the financial part of it.

[59:13] » Yeah. >> Uh you know the I you know the rules and

[59:17] regs I mean you got to have this insurance that insurance and all these

[59:19] other insuranceances. Yeah. We need we need to really say well what's the

[59:23] impact of that? No. Like when the FAA does something, they say, "Hey, when

[59:27] they do A tob, they say, okay, it's going to cost10 billion dollars to to do

[59:32] that, you know, and it's going to you need to know the effect of

[59:36] » for sure >> of because if you add a bunch of rules

[59:40] and regulations, a bunch of insuranceances, that means that

[59:43] » well, people are going to pay more to rent a hanger."

[59:46] » Yeah. >> Yeah. We need to understand the B.

[59:49] » No. Yeah, they will. if if we had that. But but we're not um look, we don't have

[59:53] to reinvent the wheel on on this. This has been done at a lot of other other

[59:58] places. And frankly, it's just a rule. If you're hangerkeepering,

[1:00:03] the FBA wants you to have hanger keepers liability insurance. I

[1:00:08] » sure. for [clears throat] those that don't have it. Now, I think what Bill's

[1:00:10] point is we need to know is now the rent on Bill Winfield's airplane going to go

[1:00:15] up 100 a month or 500 a month, you know, so that they can adjust that.

[1:00:19] » No, I agree. I agree. That's why this is going to be a discussion point. Minimum

[1:00:23] standards don't get rewritten over the course of a month.

[1:00:27] » They they get rewritten over the course of a year. I mean, these are discussion

[1:00:32] points and some of them are heated. You have public comment time. and we let

[1:00:36] everybody at the airport um have input uh so that we make sure that we get the

[1:00:40] product out of it that is going to work for the airport. All of that will be

[1:00:44] part of it. Is um is hangerkeepers liability insurance going to increase

[1:00:52] the cost of that subletter? Probably if they don't already have it.

[1:00:56] » Yeah. the the the secondary thing the other thing I would make sure that you

[1:01:00] add in this is the idea of uh are these some of these

[1:01:07] insuranceances when we looked at this a year or two ago

[1:01:11] » some of the insuranceances weren't even available you couldn't even get them

[1:01:14] » so we don't want to write something in you can't get

[1:01:17] » no no no and that that's all part of it like I said we don't have to reinvent

[1:01:20] the wheel here it's been it's been done at other airports so we just look at at

[1:01:26] what they've and to find out what the what the liability should be. I mean,

[1:01:30] some some some people request so much liability that you couldn't get it no

[1:01:36] matter what. So, of course, we want it to be reasonable. Um, and we want it to

[1:01:41] [clears throat] be correct for our for our airport. So,

[1:01:43] » well, and some of the contention when all that was going on before you arrived

[1:01:49] was based off of trying to require insurance that was similar to what the

[1:01:53] FBO carried. And so there you had all kinds of people that own Hangar, Mr.

[1:01:58] Bird, Mr. Holly, a bunch of people like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[1:02:01] » Yeah. If you require hund00 million of single li single liability insurance,

[1:02:05] you're pricing everybody out of the >> out of doing it. And [clears throat]

[1:02:10] like I said, to to require that just means somebody didn't understand the way

[1:02:14] airports work. Um, and didn't understand that other airports

[1:02:20] have kind of dialed that in where it should be. So that's the problem you

[1:02:25] find is as we went out and serve surveyed airports, we found a pottery of

[1:02:30] this and this and this and this and this. There wasn't there wasn't an there

[1:02:34] wasn't a standard or international standard for the survey.

[1:02:38] » No, you go to um you go to specific airports. Um when I was doing Provo, I I

[1:02:43] used Jeffco as sort of my sample because at the time we didn't have commercial

[1:02:48] service but we're growing um as my sample. For us, we would use a larger

[1:02:56] um commercial service airport and we would look at those. We we want to

[1:02:59] compare apples and apples. So, but you're right, as Jud has stated

[1:03:04] in this meeting, if you look at one airport, you've seen one airport.

[1:03:08] Everybody does it a little bit different.

[1:03:10] » Um but but there are ways to dial within.

[1:03:14] » Great. So I I I just wanted to as as we start the discussion on this, I think we

[1:03:19] just need to uh try to identify all the issues and try to address them. That's

[1:03:24] all it was. >> I agree. And let me just say right now,

[1:03:26] I don't think that anybody in particular on the airfield is is abusing it or

[1:03:30] doing anything particularly wrong. I just get worried about the liability of

[1:03:34] it. Sure. >> And um if we're not doing our part, you

[1:03:39] know, we need just need to do our part. Yeah. Any questions about that?

[1:03:45] » Yeah, >> we're gonna have a ton. Oh, you had

[1:03:46] something. Oh, >> I did send an email for contacts and for

[1:03:50] people to send in their insurance forms. I've literally gotten two back from all

[1:03:55] attendants at the airport. Um, so if we can, you know, if you guys know, you

[1:04:02] know, people talking to them that we don't have all of this year's current

[1:04:07] insurance paperworks for it. I mean, there's work people that have airplanes

[1:04:11] on the field. Um, and maybe you might have a little bit more

[1:04:16] maybe information or ability to push, but yeah, I've gotten I've gotten two

[1:04:20] back. >> So, so remind people that we need that.

[1:04:23] Um, yeah, we don't have contact information for people that are actually

[1:04:27] that have hangers, they've moved or or uh um that as we go through these

[1:04:32] leases, we just we just find layer upon layer of stuff that we that we need to

[1:04:39] dig into. and we're going to it's just going to this isn't going to this isn't

[1:04:44] going to be a six-month process. This is going to take a while. So, bear with us.

[1:04:48] But the starting point is um find out how to contact everybody. All

[1:04:55] right? Um it's hard for them to have input if I can't notify them of a

[1:04:59] meeting, for example. Um, so anybody you know at the airport,

[1:05:06] uh, some of you are out there more than others, just tell them, please send

[1:05:10] Sarah their contact info so that we can move on with that part. We're not trying

[1:05:15] to go after anybody. We just need to know who's out there.

[1:05:18] » Plus, with all the construction, I want to make sure that everybody gets a fair

[1:05:21] chance to know what's going on. I'd be surprised if they show up one day like,

[1:05:25] "Oh, >> hey, the whole lamp's torn apart." I

[1:05:27] mean we say we try to go okay >> we sent out we sent out a blanket email

[1:05:33] » or six months I think our emails are probably fairly accurate. I think people

[1:05:38] just haven't prioritized uh >> moving them up. I think our emails are

[1:05:43] accurate because we do hear back >> from time to time from people. Um,

[1:05:49] » oh, the other thing, the website, this isn't about Lisa's. Sorry, I should have

[1:05:52] brought this up during, uh, director's report, uh, the website. We

[1:05:59] have found out AJ was going to comment on this, but Sarah and AJ have been kind

[1:06:03] of working together on how we can update our our web page, our airport web page.

[1:06:08] Um, do you want to tell them? So according as a map the uh Grand County

[1:06:12] took all the I guess external websites and have made it where they go directly

[1:06:17] to the county website. So we cannot have our own external website as of right

[1:06:21] now. Um but we are kind of hand tied on what we can put on there basically by

[1:06:28] the way the Granite County website is built. So, we will be getting with Matt

[1:06:33] at some point in it to kind of like make ours a little bit nicer and things that

[1:06:38] we have posted on, they aren't showing up. So, we're going to get with him and

[1:06:41] make sure that we understand, you know, the website well enough that we can put

[1:06:46] more stuff on there. >> So,

[1:06:48] » yeah, cuz right now when we change something, it doesn't show up.

[1:06:51] » Yeah. >> On on the actual site. We'll make the

[1:06:54] change exactly as told and then it doesn't show up. We'll try and put a

[1:06:57] picture in. Not nice. >> It didn't show up. Yeah. not not getting

[1:07:00] there. So, we're working our way through that. But the one thing we know and I

[1:07:04] understand this them bringing everything under one umbrella makes sense. You want

[1:07:08] to you if you want to centralize your branding so that everybody's not all

[1:07:12] over the map, but we've got to figure out a way that we can that we can update

[1:07:17] some things a little a little easier and and AJ is the one that's been working on

[1:07:21] that from this point. So, we appreciate uh his help with that. So, that's it for

[1:07:26] me. I'm long- winded. Hey, Steve. It's Rachel.

[1:07:31] » Um, I just wanted to say thanks for um the work you're doing on those leases. I

[1:07:36] think that's had to have been done a long time. So, the time you're taking to

[1:07:41] get everything done with those. Um, I really appreciate it.

[1:07:45] » Well, well, you're welcome. But let's let's give a big thanks to Sarah as well

[1:07:50] and Chrissy from >> Legal.

[1:07:54] » Yeah. because they they have uh been working together to get a lot of this

[1:07:59] sorted out. Uh so yeah, I appreciate that. We're we're really trying to get

[1:08:04] on this. I have >> to say I have to give Jess a shout out

[1:08:07] because I can really see where she was putting stuff together before I came and

[1:08:13] where she got to and she did a lot of work on it also. So I will give her

[1:08:18] credit for credit >> getting everything organized. Jess was

[1:08:22] doing very well right in the middle of it. Um, and so luckily Sarah was able to

[1:08:26] see exactly where that was and pick it up and go.

[1:08:29] » Good job, team. Way to go. >> Thank you.

[1:08:36] All right. Uh, on the airport entrance sign, not a lot has happened. We found

[1:08:41] out that there is a ordinance that prohibits uh electronic signs in the

[1:08:47] county. Uh, and it's unclear. So, we're

[1:08:52] researching what that means. Uh, it's the city has an exemption right now. So,

[1:08:58] they can have digital signs, but the county can't. Uh, so we're also looking

[1:09:05] still looking for funds and ways to go forward. So, if anybody has any ideas,

[1:09:10] uh, I'll leave it on the agenda and we'll talk about it in the future. Yeah,

[1:09:14] I would love it if there was some kind of a way we could at least have it on

[1:09:17] during the day. Um, but this fight has been fought before and uh didn't didn't

[1:09:27] » I I need to know about the fight that fought that was

[1:09:29] » Well, I heard that that that another company tried to put the sign in to see

[1:09:35] if they could get a sign and this was years ago. This is when this ordinance

[1:09:39] first came out. >> How old is the ordinance?

[1:09:42] I'm not sure how old the ordinance is. >> You know,

[1:09:45] » I don't It's not It's at least two commissions

[1:09:50] ago. >> Oh, yeah. It's long time ago.

[1:09:52] » It's a long time ago. And it's based on it's based on dark sky. Uh

[1:09:57] » and and so that when they wrote it though, it just says no. It doesn't say

[1:10:02] only a day or only a night. >> And whether it's a battle we want to

[1:10:05] find technology has improved to the point now.

[1:10:09] » Yeah. There's a lot of questions. So you can get

[1:10:12] » is that a fight? >> Is that a fight we want to get into or

[1:10:16] just have a nice concrete >> sign?

[1:10:19] » Yeah. Or do we? Yeah. So that I think that's that.

[1:10:23] » I would love it if we could if we could do that where we could put more

[1:10:26] information about flights on it and um it would it would be great, but we'll

[1:10:32] just have to keep going down that road and see where it leads.

[1:10:34] » Yeah. Yep. All right. Uh

[1:10:42] I think that's about it. Uh for the that we do have an thing on here for

[1:10:48] marketing. I think we covered that pretty well.

[1:10:50] » Yeah, Bill covered that really well. >> Howard talked a little bit about that.

[1:10:54] » I think what Bill didn't mention is that Melissa Jeffers, our economic

[1:10:58] development director, is also um in that loop now with that marketing money.

[1:11:04] she's the one uh trying to combine it with some other money so that we can

[1:11:08] maybe magnify it. So yeah. >> All right. Now who who uh I did have one

[1:11:14] question that goes to marketing and that has to do with u

[1:11:20] who is who is the point for if we have a newspaper article or a a construction

[1:11:28] project that completed successfully or you know we want to you know do an

[1:11:33] entrance >> who who is the point for getting that

[1:11:36] » from now on it's me. >> Okay. Jeffers

[1:11:41] » and I'll work with Melissa and uh

[1:11:44] » for press releases and that kind of thing.

[1:11:46] » Yeah. Work with Howard and you know we'll work with all the different

[1:11:49] entities but uh the point person will be from now on.

[1:11:55] » Okay. Uh so we probably ought to do something as far as contacting all the

[1:12:01] press and tell telling them that >> send a press release out oh about that

[1:12:06] that they should be contacting me directly. Well, okay. About marketing

[1:12:12] things, we do have a PIO at the airport now or not the airport, but at the

[1:12:17] county, which is Melissa Jeffers. So, she's the point person on on news items.

[1:12:23] I I thought you were just talking about the direct marketing dollars. And

[1:12:27] » no, I'm talking about the press releases.

[1:12:29] » Press releases. We'll go through me, but we'll go through Melissa.

[1:12:33] » Okay. >> Yeah. And so I'm just saying the press

[1:12:37] needs to know all that. I've I've seen some

[1:12:41] » varying articles that have actually disinformation in some of the articles

[1:12:45] and that's a little bit concerning that we don't get a

[1:12:48] » that's not the fault of the fault. I'm not going to call out the

[1:12:53] newspaper. I'll keep them. >> No, that's okay. I'm just saying we need

[1:12:56] to have a they need to know that hey the we're going to release something they

[1:13:01] feel what they said. >> It should be it should be clear to

[1:13:04] everybody at this time that our PIO is Melissa Jeffers. At least all of the

[1:13:07] media knows that for sure. >> Okay.

[1:13:11] Great. >> Y

[1:13:15] does everybody have anything else? Okay, we're done. Call the meeting close at

[1:13:20] 5010. Thanks everybody.

[1:13:26] Wednesday.

7.6.2026 Airport Board

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