[0:45] Billy, you're ready now.

[0:50] » Rock and roll. >> All right.

[0:52] » Call this meeting of the Grand County Airport Board

[0:56] in session. It's 4:00.

[1:00] And first order of business

[1:04] Oh, one bit bit of information. Van Horn says we have to leave early.

[1:10] » Okay. >> What I've heard.

[1:13] » Yeah, we have a hard out at 5:00. So >> Yeah.

[1:17] So So you know, we'll we'll try to I I

[1:19] don't see a reason why we can't do that. So first of all, citizens to be heard?

[1:25] » We have any have any citizens online or otherwise if you want to say

[1:30] something?

[1:33] » I guess not. All right. First order of business, approve the

[1:37] minutes from July 6th. Here a motion to

[1:41] approve? >> On the calendar.

[1:43] » To approve minutes from July 6th. >> I second.

[1:45] » Seconded by Dan. All in favor?

[1:49] » I I >> I

[1:51] » Unanimous.

[1:54] All right. On to the director's report. >> [clears throat]

[1:57] » I'm looking at the numbers on house and pets okay and go through that so I just

[2:01] talk a little bit first about a couple of incidents we had.

[2:04] We did have a disabled aircraft on the runway.

[2:09] Red tail moved quickly and we were able to get that off the runway without too

[2:13] much trouble. Although sky dive moment did have to

[2:16] land on the crosswind cuz they were in the air when it happened so um

[2:21] just that way I but it was resolved without incident. And it all went well.

[2:28] We also purchased a new um pod razor. I don't know if any of you

[2:33] have seen us dragging those around but it's thing we drag behind the truck and

[2:37] it just picks up all the gravel and fog. The one we had was starting to get

[2:42] pretty worn out so we thought we'd better buy a new one now

[2:46] while we had a little bit of revenue there. They're more expensive than I

[2:49] thought they were going to be. They were a couple of grand. So we bought another

[2:53] one but our plan is to use the one we currently have until it is just

[2:58] no longer functioning at all. And of course we've been using it quite

[3:03] a bit lately because all the construction there's been additional fog

[3:06] that we've had to go out and make sure we remove. And just remind all of you

[3:10] that if you get fog reports always please give us a call let us know so

[3:14] that we can get out and get after it as quickly as we can.

[3:20] We'll get into the uh construction.

[3:27] Let's go through the numbers please and then we'll start talking about the

[3:30] construction work so feel free to jump in.

[3:34] So again you can just check our takeoffs

[3:37] and landings versus 25 and 26

[3:41] and see that we've had a few more operations um

[3:47] Our operations have increased over last year. Not

[3:51] massively but a little bit. Days of the week, again, no surprises

[3:56] there. Um

[3:58] where our slow days are. Uh visiting versus based, and we are

[4:04] we're visiting out of Fort Lauderdale International Airport. It used to be

[4:07] that way. Although we did have a few more based

[4:10] out of that film this in this month's report than we

[4:13] we've had in the past, in comparison. They also have one way, surprises there.

[4:20] Tell which way the wind's blowing. Uh

[4:23] landing same thing, it's just whichever you're going and which one's all going

[4:26] around it. So, in plane minutes

[4:31] Um as you can see again, we continue to be uh below last year.

[4:35] Uh not altogether surprising as as a changeover has been

[4:41] made, and and people are changing their plans.

[4:44] Uh so, not shocked by it, but also I think

[4:47] it it held a little steadier this this month than than I thought it would as

[4:51] compared to the previous month. Um you know, this is the time of year

[4:56] when it starts to get hot as we've been talking about, so it doesn't quite get

[4:59] as many travelers coming in.

[5:03] Um red tails in plane minutes obviously up over last year, so they're doing more

[5:07] of their flights. Um

[5:11] Palm Tour in plane minutes down pretty significantly.

[5:15] Uh we've had I mean,

[5:17] Rachel could speak to this better, but there have been some cancellations and

[5:21] some different issues with with some of the flights.

[5:24] Although one of the cancellations did result in

[5:27] everybody getting to fly in pretty much a private jet. I was talking to a buddy.

[5:32] They they probably enjoyed that flight uh as much as any flight they're ever

[5:35] going to have. So, you can see that those are are going

[5:39] down. We would expect all of those to start picking up again as the

[5:43] temperature changes. Allegiant fuel sales well. They're

[5:48] they're doing pretty well with the lead. But if you look at the numbers on the

[5:52] front page, you'll see the difference between what we turn we make off of low

[5:56] lead versus

[5:58] the revenue that we get from jet and it's

[6:03] it's pretty massive. 10 times possibly. The jet fuel that we get 10 times the

[6:08] amount that we get from low lead. So our low lead

[6:11] fuels are strong despite the fact that we've had

[6:15] the uh construction project that we'll get to in a second just drag on and on

[6:19] and that has the policy problems with itself

[6:23] served um but

[6:26] we'll probably see most of that decline in next month's numbers if we see it at

[6:31] all. Uh and then jet A

[6:35] again, not a huge drop off over last year but still still down over time and

[6:40] again 10 times more jet A than by 100 low

[6:44] lead. So jet A is the lead. Really kind of where the money is for the airport.

[6:49] Uh and you can see that on the front. So

[6:54] if you just look at the actual raw numbers of fuel flow as you can see, you

[6:58] know 5,000

[7:02] bucks, 5,600 bucks off of uh low lead versus 18,000 off of jet A.

[7:08] It's clear that that jet fuel is they're both important but the jet fuel

[7:14] is where we generate the most revenue. So it's important that we keep that in

[7:18] mind. Uh with that, let's let's go into the

[7:22] pavement and the issues we've been having with um

[7:26] with current construction projects. How many of you have not been out there

[7:29] to see the projects?

[7:33] You have not been out? >> I'm not.

[7:35] » Okay. Um

[7:37] I'll let Jed speak to this but it should have been done. I don't And been ready

[7:40] for On >> 23rd.

[7:42] » We've been ready for it. We've been paid for a very long time. And

[7:46] uh for some reason LeGrand cannot get payment out to us. Supposed to be

[7:52] here today. But I'll believe it when I see it.

[7:55] Didn't make it today. So, we're going to start charging liquidated damages and uh

[8:00] judge will address that a little bit. >> So, yeah. The contracts are written for

[8:03] liquidated damages when they extend beyond

[8:07] uh the scheduled construction time.

[8:11] Um [clears throat] and it's not to say that any project should

[8:14] take longer or shorter. Here's the time allotted for a project, and then the

[8:19] bids go corresponding to that. So, a project could be 60 days,

[8:24] but it just as well could be scheduled for 30 days. Just expect to pay 50% more

[8:29] for that project because they're going to be working crews all the time.

[8:33] So, in this case, liquidated damages are put in the contracts

[8:36] such that um in this case of this project, it was a 45-day contract,

[8:43] and they were completely on schedule for that

[8:47] until being delayed for paving phase two.

[8:51] » And And we were we were being as kind about it as we possibly could

[8:56] because this contractor has done such a good job. They They really have.

[9:01] Um TS Casey's been great. They They had everything right to it right up

[9:05] until they subcontract to get the paving done, and that's when we have run into

[9:09] problems. Yeah. Could you elaborate on what happened out there today?

[9:13] » Uh today So, when

[9:17] before paving happens, they deliver what's called a mix design. So, there's

[9:21] certain specs that say, "Here's how many sand versus small gravel versus slightly

[9:26] bigger gravel with percentages of oil." And it has to meet certain

[9:30] specification. And they did that, and what they submitted was going to be a

[9:35] good pavement section. Uh

[9:38] what showed up in the trucks today was So, trucks did come out today.

[9:44] And uh what showed up was not what it was designed, and it was very can't be

[9:51] accepted. It was actually And it was to a point where we didn't even have to

[9:54] push hard because we were not going to accept it. Uh but they also recognized,

[9:59] "Yeah, this isn't good asphalt. We don't want to put it

[10:03] down." Because they know if they had put it down,

[10:06] we'd be talking about a rework. >> Yeah, do you know will they be back

[10:10] tomorrow? >> The plan is to be on site first thing in

[10:14] the morning paving. As it was today, as it was last week

[10:19] twice, as it was the week before. >> Okay. Well, this has been very

[10:23] disruptive to our operations. >> Well, we have the hangar blocked yet and

[10:28] self-serve. >> I still would like them to do it in two

[10:30] lifts, though. I can't try and do it >> No, the the plan is still for two lifts.

[10:34] So, for you know, obviously you always want to

[10:38] work well with a contractor, um but you also have certain

[10:41] stipulations. Uh

[10:44] the original plan on phase one So, they're working on phase two now. Phase

[10:48] one is to do a lift and then come back the next day and do a

[10:52] second lift. Um

[10:55] they had, they being the subcontractor, had difficulties with their plant and

[11:00] were unable to work on the first day, do the first day of paving, uh which

[11:05] corresponded to July 2nd. Um

[11:11] and or maybe the finishing >> Was it decided that they

[11:15] » But they did >> decided then to do instead of two lifts,

[11:18] lift at I did it all in one day. >> And so, the first lift was great.

[11:24] The second lift was not because they did it all in one day.

[11:28] It counted as one day of one production lot instead of having two separate days,

[11:33] two separate lots. And the asphalt, it has a range where you want to make it

[11:40] you have, you know, here's bad, here's perfect, and you can be a little bit

[11:44] more than perfect, but it has to fall within this range.

[11:47] Now, and

[11:49] it can fall right to the bottom of that range, but if it's below that,

[11:54] everything is perfect. If it's below that, you can get um

[11:59] deductions in what gets paid out. Um when you do multiple lifts, multiple

[12:05] days, what that enables them to do is today they only get paid 90%, but

[12:10] tomorrow they went above and beyond, so they get 106%. They'll never pay get

[12:14] paid more than 100%. But

[12:17] » For the total. >> For the total.

[12:19] But in this case, that first lift, they got paid 50%.

[12:23] So, we're deducting $133,000

[12:28] of payment to TSJ, which would then be

[12:32] passed down to the government. >> Just so you're aware, the the the

[12:35] payment did not fail. It was just at the lower end of passing.

[12:39] So, had it failed, we would have just had them tear it out. The problem is

[12:43] because they did it all in one day, we couldn't have just had them tear off the

[12:46] 4 in that that didn't work out very good. It had now all mixed together.

[12:50] They would have had to take out all 8 in.

[12:53] Um and because the 4 in on the bottom was so good,

[12:58] um we feel like it's it's it's okay to have it at the low end of

[13:02] good. So,

[13:04] we wouldn't have passed it if it had failed. But it is going to save us uh

[13:08] quite a bit of money over the course of the project, which is good because we've

[13:12] had a couple of change orders that we've had to uh put in on the previous

[13:16] project, such as the manhole covers. Um you know, there's just been some

[13:21] little things, pipes, the additional piping. So, as it turns out, even with

[13:25] the change order showing that we're paying more at the end of the day

[13:29] actually the county share is going to be less than was projected. We will have

[13:33] saved money over the whole course of the project.

[13:37] » Um in terms of what is scheduled, tomorrow morning start paving and do the

[13:42] first lift. Okay. It will be compacted, it'll be tested, and it'll be a

[13:47] standalone lot even though it's technically

[13:50] really really small for one lot. Uh the lot being the tons of pavement

[13:56] going in. Uh and then the intent is Wednesday do

[14:00] day number two of paving where they will pave that top

[14:04] lot and then uh ideally get things open as quick as possible after that. In term

[14:11] quick as possible would be looking at Thursday or Friday.

[14:16] » So this appears >> And so how far behind schedule are they?

[14:19] » Right now they're 11 days over schedule. >> The big difference was

[14:24] weeks. >> It was not as impactful there because it

[14:28] was all in it was out in the middle of nowhere. So it wasn't in the middle

[14:32] blocking businesses, blocking the access of the ARFF truck to the

[14:36] runway. >> It wasn't any place where you could I

[14:38] mean you can assign liquidated dam- damages just tentatively,

[14:42] but there were no actual damages because it was all brand new stuff that we

[14:46] hadn't had before. Whereas this there are actual damages being incurred.

[14:51] Um so yeah, we told them today when it didn't show up that

[14:55] liquidated damages would be assessed. So >> And

[15:00] it does will go to the prime contractor. Uh

[15:06] the that is their purview or not to pass it on to their pavement contractor same

[15:11] as with the uh reduction in pay for the asphalt. We

[15:16] don't get a You don't get a bill that we process

[15:20] uh from LaGrande for doing the paving. They give it to TSJ, TSJ gives it to

[15:27] you, we process it with that payment to that payment.

[15:31] Uh, >> And for that reason, we we tried to be

[15:34] as nice about this possible cuz TSJ has been so good to to work with, but um,

[15:39] the LeGrand's portion of it has not worked out very well.

[15:43] For the second project in a row. >> And ancillary to that, uh, TSJ actually

[15:49] is entering by next season they're also entering

[15:54] into the, uh, pavement manufacturer and production and layout.

[15:59] So, they're going to have their own pavers.

[16:00] » That's good. >> Or

[16:01] uh, as we talked to Adam, so um,

[16:05] it just makes another player in this region of the state which benefits

[16:10] everything from city streets to um, there always.

[16:15] » Any questions on the on the project? Before I go back and talk about

[16:20] something I forgot to talk about, but I just I was down here. We did have a weed

[16:23] spraying incident as well. Um,

[16:26] apparently the the handle of the weed sprayer that we used popped off, the

[16:30] hose got loose inside one of our trucks. Hosed down the truck, sprayed JP

[16:36] completely with, um, with herbicide.

[16:39] Uh, Mark got on the phone with everybody

[16:42] that we could possibly think of to find out if there was any risk or danger to

[16:46] anybody. Um, and then we contacted the county

[16:49] weed uh, department, and they were supposed to

[16:52] come do training, but they haven't done it yet. They're going to come out, look

[16:55] over our equipment, see if there's maybe a better quick connect we can have,

[16:59] something to make sure that that doesn't happen again while we're spraying weeds.

[17:03] Um, just to make sure that we're doing all

[17:05] the training that we can cuz it could have been bad. Luckily JP was wearing

[17:10] PPE, so he didn't get hit right in the face with it, but he would have, um, had

[17:15] he not had the goggles on and and been doing what he was supposed to do. So,

[17:19] um, yeah, so I I wanted to make you aware of

[17:23] that that that what we're doing just I think that we did in the incident. We

[17:26] got the truck cleaned out. We're still waiting to find out, um,

[17:30] whether the fumes cuz it's soaked into the cloth seats

[17:34] whether we need to replace those seats or whether it's okay for us to continue

[17:37] using that vehicle. Um, and if any of you have

[17:42] any contact, we've called Embry-Riddle. We put the guy that can't get a

[17:46] completely straight answer, but we get if we just put vinyl covers over those

[17:50] seats, they'll probably be okay. Um, but that's why you won't see the one

[17:55] vehicle out doing weed spray much. And you might see it parked out in the sun

[17:59] with the doors open while we just kind of let things kind of bake and see if we

[18:04] can't clear it out a little bit. Um, as far as land side goes, it's just

[18:08] been regular maintenance. Um, mostly just, uh,

[18:13] weeds and also terminal cleaning. Um,

[18:17] we haven't had the Sky Harbor Moab people in our bathrooms anymore, so

[18:22] they took care of that issue for us. So, our people haven't had to go in and

[18:25] clean up behind them. And, uh, still working on those minimum

[18:29] standards and release agreements with our county attorney. Uh,

[18:33] again, I think as we talked about before, leases are pretty much kind of

[18:38] not much we can do with them, uh, the way that we can adjust the way

[18:41] those leases work is through minimum standards and rules and regs. So, we're

[18:44] still trying to piece together each section that needs to be rewritten and

[18:48] we definitely don't want to like, uh, reinvent the wheel. There are there are

[18:53] airports that have good minimum standards in place. So, we're kind of

[18:57] looking at other minimum standards of similar airports.

[19:00] Uh, and when I have something to show you, I will and then we'll start doing

[19:03] some some public meetings about everybody contributing something to to

[19:08] what they feel about it as well. I think that's important.

[19:14] That's where we are. >> Can I ask you a question?

[19:17] The lights on the new around the outside,

[19:21] when will they when will they be used and what are they for?

[19:25] » The ramp lights? >> Yeah.

[19:26] » Okay, well we just barely got the uh

[19:31] meter in, so they're usable now. Just ramp lighting.

[19:35] Uh we we do have two of them that are in a place that makes it kind of difficult

[19:39] for the helicopters. Some helicopter pilots are for landing on the helicopter

[19:43] pads, some are not. But yeah, it's just ramp lighting if anybody is out there at

[19:47] night bringing their aircraft in. >> How do you turn them on?

[19:51] » They go on automatically. >> Oh, so they're on all night. So I

[19:54] thought I I drove by the airport at midnight last night and they were on.

[19:58] They were lit up like a Christmas tree. >> Now that was one thing I was going to I

[20:01] kind of mention is there's like two different color lights. Like the

[20:05] » Of the new ones? >> Yeah. Like

[20:07] » Are you sure it's not just the angle you're looking at?

[20:09] » Well, no the other ones are kind of orangish, you know, kind of um

[20:13] orange color and then the new ones are bright white, you know, like you can

[20:17] definitely see um

[20:20] » All the new ones should be the same though.

[20:22] » Yeah, the new ones are all the same, but they just don't match. They just don't

[20:24] match the other light giant or the other um

[20:27] » The lenses are lenses. >> Which isn't a big deal, but it was

[20:33] it was definitely um >> They're different kinds of bulbs.

[20:35] » Yeah, different kinds of bulbs cuz they had to meet local lighting standards cuz

[20:39] of the dark sky light requirements for lumens

[20:42] and stuff like that. That's within the codes now.

[20:45] » So the new lights definitely >> The old lights don't perform dark sky

[20:48] best I can tell. >> And the ones with the helicopter, we are

[20:52] aware so they weren't designed and there's

[20:56] the leap legally laid out which is what they are not being

[21:01] too close to the runway to impede on runway airspace, but it is designed for

[21:05] a hover taxi. The way a helicopter There's The way helicopters should fly

[21:09] and there were It was the way helicopters do fly.

[21:12] So, those are laid out for how a helicopter should fly. As a helicopter

[21:16] comes into the airport, it should land on the runway. So, come down, approach

[21:21] the runway, doesn't have to touch down, but then hover taxi.

[21:25] And that's why there are those lead-in lines with the numbers that are painted

[21:29] on them are described for to specifically lead-in line and the size

[21:33] of helicopters that can fit into that location.

[21:36] Now, if someone wants to fly direct to them, yeah, there's going to be some big

[21:39] holes in the middle of it. >> I didn't mean to suggest that they

[21:42] weren't put in the right place. >> No, but it But, it does look like

[21:45] It absolutely looks like, "Why are they there?" Because someone can't fly

[21:49] directly to it. Well, part of that deals with

[21:53] um you know, addressing fog. Helicopter that is not paved to the

[21:58] north and to the west of those uh

[22:01] helicopter parking spots, so if they came in direction of that, it

[22:05] would be blowing a lot of fog onto the taxiway and onto the helicopter parking

[22:10] spots. And then once they land, it's going to push out and hit every plane

[22:12] around. But, if they land on the runway, hover taxi over the taxiway, and use the

[22:17] lead-in lines, then they can rotate around.

[22:21] » a decent fog removal tool when they >> Exactly.

[22:25] » Yeah, they >> And so,

[22:26] » Unfortunately, about the only people that follow that are the military

[22:29] because of how much air they blow around. But, the the thing I worry about

[22:33] if somebody does come in from the west with the hoods on those lights, they

[22:37] block the night sky. Uh they may not see them. Uh there are red lights on the

[22:43] other side of the lines on the other side of the runway. I do worry about

[22:47] somebody coming in there at night. >> Like I said, I'm

[22:50] It It It meets every FAA specification. Whether or not we want to keep those

[22:55] there long-term, we can discuss. >> I think

[22:58] » One possibility maybe is uh if they're not

[23:03] legally tall enough to need striping, but

[23:06] you know, the red and white Christmas, you know, candy cane

[23:10] candy cane those poles >> And for some reason they're reflective.

[23:13] » They're reflective. >> They're reflective.

[23:15] » I mean, if you're coming from the east, they're pretty visible because of the

[23:18] way the lights are, but when you're coming from the west, they're

[23:20] » And the downside and the reason military will fly appropriately when they have

[23:26] to. >> Yeah.

[23:27] » Uh but also uh a lot of times they'll be flying

[23:30] under night vision. And those lights, you're not going to pick

[23:34] them up in thermal. >> Oh.

[23:36] » Because they're >> LED.

[23:37] » They're LED. They're not going to put off the heat to pick up thermal. We're

[23:40] actually seeing that across the board with all of uh approach lights like

[23:45] copies. They used to be highly visible in

[23:47] thermal, but now they're not. Because

[23:51] they're not putting off any heat. >> So, they don't

[23:53] » So, definitely aware and

[23:55] » They'll get heaters inside of it because they don't know the size.

[24:00] » Then I have one one lease question also. >> Yeah.

[24:03] » Uh all of the leased buildings went out

[24:06] this month. Uh do you get to review all those before

[24:10] they go out? >> No.

[24:13] At least I haven't. I probably could request that I get them before they go

[24:16] out. >> Yeah, I think we probably should.

[24:19] » You know, there are budgets. What we get and we're trying to correct this with

[24:23] the way finance reports to us is we get [clears throat]

[24:26] a lump billing. This is what we bill and then Sarah's had to actually go in and

[24:31] ask for a breakdown. Who was billed and when? Otherwise, it just kind of goes

[24:35] out. So, we're trying to correct that problem right now.

[24:38] » Yeah, but I'm not sure what I what I'm seeing is maybe not unclear on um the

[24:44] number of cents per square foot. Okay. Uh and I'm just wondering who

[24:48] figures that out and how they figure that out.

[24:52] » Well, most of the leases that are already signed were were

[24:55] were signed based on the square footage at the time.

[24:58] » yeah, yeah, they are. But the question is is who does that work?

[25:02] » Well, for all new leases it'll be me. >> Okay, so so you tell them

[25:08] it's 23 cents a square foot on And this is how many square footage it

[25:12] is. It's this much and >> That's the one that's the same on all

[25:16] That's one of the things we want to adjust with our fee schedule is to make

[25:20] sure that >> I'm not sure that's true.

[25:21] » the leases Well, they're it's not true right now.

[25:24] » I I understand. Okay, so I don't What are you trying to get?

[25:28] » Okay, I'm just trying to figure out our our process of understanding whether the

[25:32] right amount's being charged. Okay, when somebody comes in for a new lease, we

[25:35] take what's on our fee schedule, the last time that it was updated, then we

[25:38] add the CPI increases based on the government CPI. And so what that comes

[25:43] out to is what we charge per square foot. Then we look at what then we look

[25:48] at what the size of the footprint of the building is and we charge them for the

[25:52] footprint of the building. >> Okay, and you so you you do that

[25:55] calculation and send it to the county.

[25:58] » Yes. >> To be That was my question. How does

[26:00] that work? >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, as we do new leases,

[26:03] that's the way that they will be done. >> Yeah. Are they Are they done that way

[26:06] now? >> Yeah. I don't want to talk about how how

[26:10] they were done before I got here. We haven't We haven't

[26:13] » The two that >> The two that I've had since I got here

[26:16] were already written and agreed upon before I got here. But the ones that we

[26:20] do from here on out will be done exactly the way I just told you.

[26:24] » Great, thank you. >> The because one of the problems that we

[26:26] discovered was no two people in the airport pay the same.

[26:30] It doesn't feel like anybody's paying the same amount and I

[26:33] want to standardize that through our fee schedule and our middle seat.

[26:37] » So that begins probably next year then. >> Yeah.

[26:40] » Okay. >> Or as soon as we can get it. As soon as

[26:42] we can get it done. >> Because this this year's already

[26:44] happened, I think. So. >> Yeah.

[26:46] » Okay, got it. Thank you.

[26:48] » You're welcome. >> Uh okay.

[26:52] You That's That's a Okay. You know? >> Yeah, there's not a ton going on at the

[26:58] county right now. I might as well say that we're getting ready to start our

[27:02] internal audit. And that will be on restricted funds, so

[27:07] that will affect and that will dig into the funds at the airport.

[27:11] » They contacted me about it. >> They did already?

[27:13] » They were ready. >> Great.

[27:14] » Julie or somebody from this firm. >> Perfect. So, that'll be ongoing and

[27:18] that's not just the airport, but the internal audit will look at all of the

[27:23] restricted funds, but the one that really affects us at the

[27:27] airport here, so >> Yeah, no, we're happy to have them do

[27:29] it. It'll It'll help us with

[27:31] » Make sure the funds stay at the airport that are generated at the airport.

[27:36] » Yeah. >> Yeah, not much going on. It's hot.

[27:39] Everything's slow.

[27:44] All I got. >> Is that it?

[27:47] » Uh, a few things in the city. Um, the city is still working on on our water

[27:50] tank project. Because I had to come back to the county um, for some public

[27:55] hearings that um >> Tomorrow?

[27:57] » Tomorrow. >> Yeah.

[27:57] » Okay. For some public hearings that needed to be addressed, so that's going

[28:02] to happen tomorrow. Then hopefully the commission will make a They'll make a

[28:05] decision at that time on the water tank. Um, the city did implement um, an

[28:11] ordinance um, for watering times, you know, um

[28:15] that's going to be citywide. That only involves um, the

[28:19] Moab city culinary water that's used for watering lawns, you know, or outside

[28:23] irrigation. That you can't water from 10:00 a.m. um, to 6:00 p.m. And then

[28:29] that You can water after 6:00 p.m. and um, 10:00 a.m. each day. So, and that

[28:35] only involves culinary water. So, it doesn't involve lawn irrigation or

[28:38] wells, you know, or anything like that. So,

[28:41] um and then um and [clears throat] then we also

[28:45] approved a a $1.2 million dollar contract um to do a bunch of upgrades on

[28:51] the M-track on the pool um and on the city building which you

[28:56] know um is

[28:59] you know the pool's um

[29:01] starting to get a little bit age and then things are starting to kind of fall

[29:05] apart there so a lot of things like recoding pipes, putting in new pipes, um

[29:10] putting in new boilers, you know, um putting in um new lights, putting in um

[29:16] um the bathrooms never had ventilation systems, you know, so especially like

[29:21] the showers and stuff were never ventilated so it was just growing black

[29:25] mold, you know, and stuff so this will go in and they're going to put in um

[29:29] bands and vents to to kind of protect that and make it so that it's

[29:34] better smell smell better smell better, yeah, smell better and not worry about

[29:39] getting the black mold. Um so um

[29:43] so it's that's also to be done.

[29:46] I think basically that will be done by December stuff so a lot of big stuff

[29:50] there. There's a lot of a lot of stuff that needs to be put into the pool you

[29:54] know kind of our

[29:56] and yeah, that's about it.

[30:01] » Pardon? >> We didn't have a meeting last month so I

[30:03] have no report.

[30:08] » Judge Did we proceed anything but it covered

[30:10] that all >> I covered it. The only other thing

[30:12] that's with ongoing projects

[30:15] are working with the FA to push the entrance road uh to next year

[30:19] construction uh and bidding and whatnot um and then the fire truck it's being

[30:26] the truck itself is being built and there's been a lot of traffic over the

[30:30] last week uh got everything of the Buy American clauses cleaned up for the

[30:36] equipment. So there were technically two projects bid for the fire truck, number

[30:42] one, fire truck number two, everything that goes into a fire truck, tanks,

[30:48] um hoses, axes, uh special fire extinguisher stuff like

[30:52] that. Uh Oshkosh is building the truck, Rosenbauer is doing the equipment.

[30:58] We got everything all worked out now. And uh

[31:01] they will be looking to get a payment

[31:06] or an invoice from the county. >> I'll get that.

[31:11] So >> That's the one.

[31:13] » And Mark will go back there during the construction, also.

[31:17] During the final phase of construction, we'll send Mark back to Oshkosh to look

[31:21] over the final product. That's just how it's always done.

[31:25] » They'll they'll get an invoice from the county. I don't understand. I

[31:30] would think that the county would get an invoice.

[31:32] » County getting that payment. >> Oh, now it's it's getting that process.

[31:36] » They'll bill the county. >> Yeah, and then it can be up to the

[31:39] limit. They won't You can't

[31:42] bill until stuff is delivered with a caveat on stuff like this where

[31:47] they can get some of the money up front before stuff gets delivered.

[31:51] » Do we have a date, yet?

[31:54] » I don't have a final date on when it'll be done. At least not the one that I

[31:58] know of. >> I I do

[32:00] We do not yet have a date on it. >> They've just given us kind of

[32:03] » Come on. >> Roughly?

[32:05] » Yeah. Well, yeah, it'd be roughly the first of

[32:07] next year.

[32:10] » Any on the drainage study?

[32:14] » You're talking about the >> utility

[32:16] » utility study? >> Well, we're we were looking at a study

[32:19] that looked at drainage >> Well, it's all yeah, yeah, all

[32:22] utilities. >> infrastructure stuff.

[32:24] » Yeah. Um I don't have an update on it. We do have a proposal from Lockmiller

[32:28] and it's just a matter of getting the money

[32:31] and going through CIB process, which I've talked to Mark about.

[32:34] » Is that something we that

[32:37] that that where where would money for that

[32:39] come from? >> Well, we're hoping we can get some of

[32:41] them from the CIB fund. Uh it's going to It would be about $100,000 just to have

[32:46] the the utility master plan done. So, if we go to the CIB fund, that's a

[32:51] 50% match. So, we could get 50,000 of it there.

[32:54] Uh and then we would just have to go find the other 50.

[32:58] » So, we have to do something for the budget cycle this year?

[33:02] » Yes. We're going to have to try and add

[33:04] something into the budget. >> For

[33:06] » That's right away, right? >> Well, we wouldn't add it for this year.

[33:09] We'd add it for the first of next >> 2017.

[33:12] » Unless we can have it still on >> We've already been working working on

[33:14] next year's budget. >> No, yeah. No, yeah. No, yeah. That I get

[33:18] that. It's >> I'm not sure when the airport's

[33:20] » Putting it in for the next one. >> Yeah.

[33:21] » We're working on budget. >> We'll try to get that

[33:25] » Okay. So, you think it's about it? That's all the proposals about 100

[33:28] » About a little bit less, yeah.

[33:30] » Can Can you kind of put a circle around that? Describe what that is.

[33:35] » I think it's sending you the scope. >> And cuz they've already given me the

[33:38] scope. >> And in essence, here's your airport. You

[33:41] have a whole lot of pipes, wires, water, sewage.

[33:45] » Good. >> Where is it? Just Just right now, no one

[33:48] knows where it's at. >> So, this is a

[33:50] Is this at a level where we where you know all of where all the pipes are?

[33:54] Here's a proposal or is this just a proposal to find the pipes?

[33:57] » Well, it's a combination of both. >> You got to do both. You got to find

[34:01] where the pipes are now so that you can plan ahead for what future growth.

[34:04] » Do your pipes Do your pipes meet Do they even meet your current demands?

[34:10] What about future demands? Um

[34:13] does your uh waste water meet current and future

[34:18] Can we look at those sizing? I think so.

[34:21] » Why don't we do this? Why don't we uh make it a future item

[34:24] uh for next month and you can maybe present that. Scope.

[34:28] » Yeah, we can present the scope. >> But

[34:30] » So, so all on the board for what what we're doing.

[34:33] » Right. Okay. Thank you.

[34:39] » Uh let's see.

[34:41] Any other reports?

[34:45] » I have one minor one. Um I'm wearing a shirt that says Loc

[34:50] Air, but for the last year we've been Loc Air and Aegis Company. Just so

[34:53] everyone's aware that if you get an email from me after today, it will come

[34:57] from jud.hill@aegisgroup.com. So, we're doing our brand transition

[35:02] over this month. So, when you see stuff coming from

[35:06] Aegis, it's still us, same exact people doing the same stuff, just all have a

[35:11] different color shirt.

[35:14] » Every other year it's like a shirt. Engineers change names and get bought

[35:19] out more than any other group I know of. >> So, this should be the last one ever cuz

[35:25] there's no one left that's big enough to buy us.

[35:30] All right. But, you will see some change. So, if you're on emails or if

[35:33] you have you're on a list for a meeting, you'll probably get a new invite for

[35:38] those meetings because the system will change from Loc Air to Aegis.

[35:42] So, that'll definitely affect our schedule meetings and stuff like that.

[35:45] » Do we all get shirts now? >> I still want Aegis.

[35:49] » I will get you a shirt. >> [laughter]

[35:54] » Okay, uh Steve or or whoever on

[35:57] » Well, we're doing the SkyWest SkyWest transition. Um

[36:01] As they start trying to ramp up, there's been some issues with current um Contour

[36:07] employees that might want to work with SkyWest, but the the training times

[36:10] aren't matching up. So, it's making it hard for current Contour employees to go

[36:16] to work for SkyWest. So, I'm trying to work with Cody to see if we can resolve

[36:20] some of that, but they've started hiring and um are starting the training. So,

[36:25] that's it's moving forward come come October 1st ready or not that's

[36:31] what we're It looks like the earliest you can

[36:34] schedule when I looked at it today was about the 7th.

[36:37] Well, the 7th would be when Denver when United would start.

[36:42] United has a longer training period so they just couldn't condense it anymore.

[36:46] If Salt Lake starts on the 1st Seattle start Salt Lake starts on the

[36:50] 1st Denver starts on the 7th and their IT people have been out there

[36:56] trying to work out cabinet space and trying to get the [snorts] IT side

[37:01] of it set up what screens and monitors will be needed for branding.

[37:06] I still don't know for sure how they're going to handle the branding of the two

[37:09] separate entities

[37:12] but they're still trying to work through some of those issues as well.

[37:21] That's all I've got for you on that one right

[37:23] now. All right,

[37:26] I wanted to keep the sign on the the airport we'll call it the we're calling

[37:30] it the airport monument sign. And the idea here

[37:36] is just to remind you

[37:39] we had talked about having a digital sign that doesn't appear to be

[37:44] a again it's against county ordinances to

[37:48] do that but

[37:51] the other the other possibility is what I'll I'll call the

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