[0:00] Heat.

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[0:18] Heat.

[3:37] All right, I have six o'clock. I'd like

[3:39] to welcome everyone to the Louis City

[3:41] Council meeting on Tuesday, August 18th,

[3:44] 2026.

[3:46] Um, I will call the meeting to order and

[3:48] ask for approval of the August 18th uh

[3:52] meeting agenda. I'll make that motion

[3:54] there.

[3:55] >> Second.

[3:56] >> Let's go ahead and vote.

[3:57] >> Gdon,

[3:58] >> yes.

[3:59] >> Johnston,

[4:00] >> yes.

[4:00] >> Mallister Atkins,

[4:01] >> yes.

[4:02] >> Street,

[4:02] >> yes.

[4:03] >> Aljansk,

[4:04] >> yes.

[4:05] >> Please bow your head. Moment of silent

[4:06] prayer.

[4:11] » Amen. Please stand for the pledge of

[4:13] allegiance.

[4:17] I aliance to the flag of the United

[4:20] States of America and to the republic

[4:23] for which it stands. One nation under

[4:26] God, indivisible, with liberty and

[4:29] justice for all.

[4:35] » Roll call.

[4:36] >> Gdone,

[4:37] >> I am here.

[4:38] >> Johnston,

[4:39] >> present.

[4:40] >> Mallister Atkins

[4:41] >> here.

[4:42] >> Street

[4:43] >> here.

[4:43] >> El Janzik

[4:44] >> here.

[4:46] Okay, we have a certificate of an open

[4:48] meeting and um I'll ask for approval of

[4:51] the minutes from the July 20th, 2026

[4:54] council meeting.

[4:55] >> So moved.

[4:57] >> Jinx.

[5:03] » Good job. You and Guy did it together.

[5:05] >> Joanie got it. All right. Do we have a

[5:07] second?

[5:08] >> Second.

[5:09] >> All right.

[5:11] >> Let's go ahead and vote.

[5:12] >> Gdone.

[5:13] >> Yes. Johnston,

[5:15] >> yes.

[5:15] >> Mallister Atkins,

[5:16] >> yes.

[5:17] >> Street,

[5:17] >> yes.

[5:18] >> Aljansk,

[5:19] >> yes.

[5:20] >> Okay. Presented in front of you is the

[5:22] mayor's court report of receipts and

[5:23] disimbursements for the month ending

[5:25] July 31, 2026. I'd ask [snorts] that you

[5:28] accept those as presented. And that

[5:31] brings us to the financial report. Mr.

[5:34] Matt, floor is yours.

[5:37] >> Thank you, Mayor. Uh for the finance

[5:38] report for the month of July, uh income

[5:42] taxes were actually down 1.2% from this

[5:45] time last year. Uh we're seeing a a

[5:47] pretty drastic reduction in the

[5:49] corporate net profit bucket of the

[5:51] income taxes, which we think may kind of

[5:53] be a new normal at this point. uh if all

[5:56] else remains equal. Um [clears throat]

[6:00] uh which which and if that that being

[6:02] the case, if that is true, it could be a

[6:04] loss of somewhere around $200,000 a year

[6:07] in income tax revenue, which will of

[6:08] course have to be made up in in budget

[6:11] in the budget process, which we are

[6:12] currently going through. Uh the general

[6:15] fund balance is down uh from last month

[6:18] in light of the additional transfers we

[6:20] did to the capital fund for city hall

[6:22] that were approved by council.

[6:25] Uh the expenditure budget benchmark is

[6:27] 58% for the month of July. Uh all funds

[6:30] are at 52%. The the general fund is at

[6:33] 55%

[6:35] when excluding transfers out. Star Ohio

[6:39] interest rate was 3.83%.

[6:42] And then I would like to draw special

[6:44] attention to the brand new seventh page

[6:47] of the finance report. Uh this is and

[6:51] I'm going to be going over the audit

[6:53] results here in a moment, but this is a

[6:54] direct result of one of those uh

[6:56] management letter comments. Uh they

[6:59] would like to see and they are

[7:01] technically correct uh that the then

[7:04] purchase orders over $3,000 be

[7:06] specifically approved by council. So for

[7:09] the month of July, these were the uh

[7:11] purchase orders. Uh just as a quick

[7:13] refresher, a then and now purchase order

[7:15] is a purchase order where the uh

[7:17] purchase order date is after the date.

[7:21] So those are listed there. Happy to

[7:24] answer any additional questions on that.

[7:26] I I am going to talk a little bit here

[7:28] now about the audit results. Are there

[7:29] any questions on the finance report

[7:31] before I jump into that?

[7:33] >> Can you just expand? I mean some then

[7:36] are like when there's an emergency it's

[7:38] inevitable. Is that correct?

[7:40] >> Oh absolutely. the the reason that they

[7:42] have their own name, which is then and

[7:43] now, and that they're um you know,

[7:46] discussed in the law, is that they have

[7:48] a good use and purpose um in in regular

[7:52] activities and things like emergencies

[7:54] or other things. Uh other things can can

[7:57] certainly crop up um and that's what

[8:00] results in a lot of those. But because

[8:02] uh historically we hadn't been

[8:04] specifically approving them here, I do

[8:06] think there's a little bit of an element

[8:08] that the they were kind of being done

[8:11] out of order at a at a rate that maybe

[8:13] is a little more than we would have

[8:14] liked. Uh which the auditors caught on

[8:16] to too. So we're going to take special

[8:17] care to make sure that those are being

[8:19] done in the right order going forward.

[8:20] We've always been in in you know

[8:22] budgetary compliance and things like

[8:24] that. But just keeping these things

[8:27] straight for for the sake of the audit

[8:30] and best practices.

[8:31] >> Okay.

[8:32] >> Can you It looks like one of them the

[8:35] payment was made before the actual

[8:36] purchase order was made. Is that typical

[8:40] because it looks like the other ones the

[8:41] payment is always after at least

[8:43] [snorts] the purchase order.

[8:44] >> That one must be a special case because

[8:47] theoretically we can't

[8:49] >> Yeah. or something in the system perhaps

[8:51] because we we can't even push through a

[8:53] payment without there being a purchase

[8:55] order in place. So that might be a thing

[8:57] where the the payment uh was originally

[9:01] initiated on a certain day and saved as

[9:03] a draft and finished up later and it

[9:05] took on the original date. It's

[9:07] possible, but it the system does not let

[9:09] us uh actually post large payments

[9:11] without a purchase order being in place.

[9:13] So strictly speaking, that's not

[9:16] possible. So I'd have to look into that

[9:18] one specifically and why it's stated the

[9:20] way it's stated.

[9:20] >> Sounds good.

[9:21] >> Okay.

[9:25] » Good. Good there.

[9:26] >> Yep.

[9:26] >> All right. Uh we'll hop over to the

[9:28] audit results. As I said, uh there was

[9:31] one uh audit finding uh which related to

[9:34] the posting of estimated resources to

[9:36] the ERP system. Uh while it should be

[9:40] noted that we were in full legal

[9:41] compliance with budgetary law the entire

[9:43] time, there's uh no issues on that

[9:46] front. Uh we're just going to take extra

[9:49] to make sure that the system reflects

[9:50] what is certified by council and the

[9:52] county uh and everything was fully above

[9:55] board in in that in that case. There

[9:58] were also three management letter

[10:00] comments. Management letter comments are

[10:01] much uh smaller uh things that auditors

[10:04] kind of find as they're going through

[10:06] and they suggest to clean up best

[10:08] practices and things like that. Uh one

[10:10] of them is the then and now purchase

[10:11] orders that we just went over. So I

[10:13] won't belabor that too much. Uh second

[10:16] is uh an issue with uh on behalf

[10:19] payments. Uh quick you know explanation

[10:22] an on behalf payment happens when a

[10:25] generally a grantor or a lessor pays a

[10:28] vendor directly. Uh these are largely uh

[10:31] larger projects

[10:34] essay

[10:37] the contractor directly for the work

[10:39] they did and the money never passes

[10:41] through the city. uh because of that a

[10:44] lot of entities and I have seen it a lot

[10:46] in my career will just not post those

[10:48] because there's no money changing

[10:50] physical hands and they bring it on as

[10:52] part of the year end work to do the

[10:56] audit report. They bring that activity

[10:58] on. Uh it's done a lot. This group of

[11:00] auditors doesn't like it. They want to

[11:02] see it be posted simple enough to fix.

[11:05] We're just going to start posting it.

[11:07] that they'll get posted as an equivalent

[11:09] revenue and expense so that it doesn't

[11:11] affect the the balances of the books at

[11:13] all.

[11:14] >> So, we'll start doing that. And then the

[11:17] third thing uh was an unfortunate

[11:20] scheduling issue. Uh the records

[11:22] commission uh is required to meet twice

[11:24] per year. In 2025, our December meeting

[11:27] ran into some scheduling issues and got

[11:29] pushed into, I think, early to mid

[11:31] January. They took issue with it. They

[11:33] pointed it out. We're just going to make

[11:35] sure we do too this year. and the one

[11:37] that got pushed into January then is one

[11:39] for this year. So, kind of corrects

[11:41] itself a little bit. So, we're just

[11:43] gonna make sure that uh that that gets

[11:44] done, but uh nothing too major there.

[11:47] And that's uh that's what was found. Any

[11:51] questions? Happy to answer them.

[11:53] >> So, for the record, they only met once

[11:57] in 2025,

[11:59] >> right? And and they're required to meet

[12:01] twice and that's what was

[12:02] >> Okay. [snorts]

[12:05] And this was In your former career, this

[12:07] is what you did, correct?

[12:09] >> Um, in a fashion. Yeah, I was I was more

[12:12] on the consulting side of the auditor's

[12:14] office, but I [clears throat] worked

[12:15] very closely with the auditors doing

[12:17] this work. Yeah.

[12:18] >> Very good. And

[12:21] what these kind of these kind of letters

[12:23] typical for a city or a municipality?

[12:27] >> Yeah. Especially uh this is our first

[12:28] year with this audit group. um the this

[12:32] the state [cough and clears throat] the

[12:33] state is of course required to audit all

[12:35] these entities every year. They don't

[12:36] have the manpower to do that. So they

[12:38] are by law allowed to farm these um

[12:41] these out [snorts] and so the the state

[12:43] will take you back for a while just to

[12:44] keep things fresh, make sure new eyes

[12:46] are getting on the audit. This year they

[12:48] farmed this out. Uh, again, this is our

[12:50] first time with these auditors, and that

[12:52] will typically come with um them picking

[12:55] up on things that maybe they're more

[12:57] concerned about than another audit group

[12:59] or the previous auditors have looked at

[13:02] your stuff so many times that they don't

[13:04] notice anymore. And that's the purpose

[13:06] of getting the fresh eyes. So, but yeah,

[13:08] it's pretty it's I I've never seen an

[13:11] audit report that didn't have management

[13:13] letter comments. There's always

[13:14] something you can improve on, uh, which

[13:16] is perfectly fine. Sure.

[13:19] All right. Good.

[13:20] >> Any other questions for Matt?

[13:22] >> No.

[13:23] >> Okay. I'll entertain a motion uh to

[13:25] approve the July 2026 monthly finance

[13:28] report.

[13:29] >> I'll make a motion to approve the uh

[13:31] July 31st, 2026 financial report.

[13:36] >> I'll second.

[13:37] >> Okay, let's go ahead and vote.

[13:39] >> Gdone,

[13:40] >> yes.

[13:41] >> Johnston,

[13:42] >> yes.

[13:42] >> Mallister Atkins,

[13:43] >> yes.

[13:44] >> Street,

[13:45] >> yes.

[13:45] >> Alans,

[13:46] >> yes.

[13:48] Okay, next up is resolution number 26-48

[13:52] >> being a resolution approving the 2027

[13:54] alternative tax budget document for the

[13:57] city of Lewisville.

[13:59] >> I'll make the motion we bring resolution

[14:01] number 2648 to the table for discussion.

[14:05] >> A second.

[14:09] » All right, mayor. So, the approval of

[14:10] the alternative tax budget is just a

[14:13] signaling to the county auditor office

[14:15] that there is a need for the property

[14:19] taxes that they collect on our behalf.

[14:21] It's an annual um an annual resolution.

[14:30] » Is this it? Just this inside millillage

[14:31] is that all it's

[14:33] >> that's what we get from the

[14:35] >> auditor's collections. Correct. Yes.

[14:37] >> Okay. All

[14:40] right. Same as what we've done in past

[14:42] years.

[14:43] >> Every year.

[14:43] >> Okay.

[14:45] >> Very good.

[14:50] » Good. Good to vote.

[14:52] >> Good to vote.

[14:52] >> All right. Let's do it.

[14:54] >> Gdone,

[14:55] >> yes.

[14:55] >> Johnston,

[14:56] >> yes.

[14:57] >> Mallister Atkins,

[14:58] >> yes.

[14:58] >> Street,

[14:59] >> yes.

[14:59] >> Aljansk,

[15:00] >> yes.

[15:01] >> Okay. Next up is ordinance number 26-49.

[15:05] being an ordinance accepting the final

[15:06] plot for a fire at Orchard Park number

[15:09] 2B located within the corporate limits

[15:12] of the city of Lewisville, Ohio.

[15:14] >> I'll make a motion that we bring

[15:15] ordinance number 2649 to the table for

[15:18] its first reading. Second.

[15:21] >> All right, mayor. So, as uh Tiffany

[15:22] said, this is the um first reading of

[15:25] the accepting of the final plot. This

[15:27] the area that we're talking about is the

[15:29] northeast portion of that residential

[15:32] development. Uh this is just the first

[15:34] reading, but if you have any questions,

[15:35] uh Mr. Juliani from the the developer is

[15:39] here to answer them along with Dave.

[15:46] » I know we we've talked about this a lot.

[15:48] Anything else you'd like to share?

[15:50] >> Not at this time, Mayor. Pretty much

[15:52] self-explanatory.

[15:54] >> Y

[15:55] >> anything else you want to share, Mr.

[15:56] Giuliani?

[15:57] >> Uh no, it's the next step. It's going to

[16:01] be 41.

[16:04] single family lots. They're making great

[16:06] progress. I just got out there today

[16:11] and it should be ready soon.

[16:14] It's already signed the contract with

[16:16] the city. So, they'll be posting a bond

[16:18] here soon. Um, get ready for the second

[16:21] reading and hope we'll get everything

[16:22] filed right after that because jumping

[16:26] into get lots. Um,

[16:29] and I'm kind of pumped after seeing

[16:31] that. repository article St. Louisville

[16:34] is like a hot area in the county,

[16:36] >> right?

[16:38] >> Which is great news for us, for you, for

[16:40] me.

[16:42] >> So, that's the next step. And then

[16:44] probably in a few months, we'll be back

[16:46] with phase three, which will be 35

[16:49] single family lots that are replacing

[16:51] what was first planned to be 47 town

[16:54] homes because town homes were not like

[16:57] that hot and the single families are

[17:00] basically flying off the shelf once they

[17:02] get hot.

[17:03] So that's the plan.

[17:05] >> Great.

[17:06] >> Yeah. Sounds great.

[17:06] >> Thank you for having me here tonight.

[17:08] Excited to be here. I think it's a great

[17:09] opportunity for all of us.

[17:11] >> Yeah, it is. And we certainly need

[17:12] housing.

[17:13] >> There's no doubt about that.

[17:15] >> No doubt.

[17:15] >> Yeah.

[17:16] >> And the price point or coming in with is

[17:19] just amazing,

[17:20] >> right? Which is great. It's a good fit,

[17:21] I think, for our community.

[17:22] >> It is. And you know, and to your point

[17:25] with um

[17:27] our 44641 being so hot in Stark County

[17:30] right now with the hits that they're

[17:31] getting on the realtor sites, this is

[17:34] great timing.

[17:35] >> Yeah, it is. And hopefully we can take

[17:37] advantage of it. So, I'm hoping that it

[17:40] keeps going, it stays this phase three

[17:43] as soon as possible. I'm talking

[17:47] other land up here.

[17:50] This has been it's been great dealing

[17:52] with the city, [snorts]

[17:54] great dealing with Dave and all the

[17:55] people that work here.

[17:57] >> Great to hear.

[17:58] >> Really happy.

[18:00] >> Sounds great.

[18:01] >> Good to hear it.

[18:02] >> I I I was thinking back to when we had a

[18:05] couple different presentations on

[18:06] basically the jobs follow the housing

[18:08] >> and we we all want good paying jobs to

[18:12] continue to come come to our area and

[18:14] that that requires the housing to be

[18:17] there in the in the single family homes,

[18:18] those good neighborhoods. That's those

[18:20] are the kind of additions we want to

[18:21] add. So, thank you. Thank you for coming

[18:24] and we're looking forward to uh more

[18:26] homes in the near future.

[18:27] >> Well, thank you for having me. I

[18:28] appreciate it.

[18:29] >> Okay, let's go ahead and vote.

[18:31] >> Before we vote,

[18:31] >> one more. Dave, do you know what this

[18:33] takes us up to? Account of homes in that

[18:35] Orchard Park.

[18:36] >> Oh, I do.

[18:37] >> Yeah. Okay. Very good.

[18:40] >> This this 41

[18:42] >> Yeah.

[18:43] >> will take us up to

[18:46] >> Let's see. will be 35 short of 199. So

[18:49] it'll take us up to 164.

[18:52] >> Okay. And then the next phase will get

[18:54] you to the 199. Is that correct?

[18:56] >> Okay. That's awesome.

[18:58] >> Okay. Fantastic.

[18:59] >> Fantastic.

[19:00] >> Yeah.

[19:01] >> All right. Now we can vote. [snorts]

[19:05] » Yes.

[19:06] >> Johnston,

[19:07] >> yes.

[19:07] >> Mallister Atkins,

[19:09] >> yes.

[19:09] >> Street,

[19:10] >> yes.

[19:10] >> Al Janser,

[19:11] >> yes.

[19:13] Okay, that brings us to our public

[19:17] speaks portion. Is there anyone here to

[19:20] speak on uh

[19:22] >> anything?

[19:25] Would you like to share anything?

[19:28] >> Hey, you got three minutes.

[19:31] >> Come on down.

[19:33] >> That's not I was gonna say that's not 30

[19:35] minutes. That's three minutes.

[19:37] [laughter]

[19:38] >> So, um my name is Joseph Globear. Um my

[19:41] first council meeting was yesterday but

[19:44] um I was uh introducing a concept of uh

[19:46] painting patriotic fire hydrants

[19:48] throughout Louisville. Uh there's about

[19:50] 650 to 700. I had some discussions with

[19:52] some of the individuals here. Um and uh

[19:56] a couple reasons. One is they did it for

[19:58] the bsentennial. I wanted to do it to

[20:00] 250th. Um I thought uh national and more

[20:03] important civic pride constitution town

[20:05] and um also an update of our of our um

[20:09] fire hydrants. Um, we have a sharp

[20:12] looking fire chief, a sharp looking fire

[20:14] station engine, but some of the some of

[20:16] the um some of the fire um hydrants are

[20:20] pretty bad. [snorts] Um so, um that's

[20:24] that was the the crux of it. Um, but

[20:27] then for my last meeting, I did some

[20:29] homework and one of the things, uh, you

[20:31] guys were talking about having more

[20:33] people move in here, businesses move in

[20:36] here and stuff like that. But [snorts]

[20:38] it would be fantastic if, um,

[20:41] individuals saw that little detail of

[20:42] the fire hydrant, which is sharp, small

[20:44] detail. They say, "Well, look, these

[20:46] guys are paying attention to small

[20:47] details and the safety of our

[20:49] community." So, you know, that might

[20:50] draw more people in, too. I think it was

[20:52] your question. What little things can we

[20:54] do to as this gentleman was talking last

[20:57] meeting in regards to you know what we

[20:59] can do about you know

[21:02] bringing people in. Uh the other thing,

[21:06] this is another wild one, but um is um

[21:09] and this is some homework, but um

[21:13] the PPR, are you familiar with that?

[21:16] Public protection um uh if you have a

[21:20] good rating of a fire hydrant, a fire

[21:23] station and community, it lowers your um

[21:27] home insuranceances. So, it's another

[21:30] perk.

[21:31] >> Believe that's for us.

[21:33] >> I'm sorry. church service organization.

[21:35] >> Yes. Yes. Yes. But it's directly related

[21:37] to a lot of different things.

[21:39] >> The hydrants is part of that. Yes.

[21:40] >> Yes.

[21:41] >> So, um I'll take any questions. Oh, I

[21:44] should tell you um I was asked to do one

[21:47] downtown, but I didn't I do it did it in

[21:48] the field. So, um a a fire hydrant and

[21:52] it's on um

[21:56] » Thank you. Marriott and Yod. So, if you

[21:59] want to take a look at it, I didn't do

[22:00] it downtown. Any questions? I'll be more

[22:02] than happy to take

[22:04] How many are there?

[22:05] >> There's somewhere between 650 to 700

[22:08] depending if you're talking private and

[22:10] public.

[22:12] >> The ones at the school. Would you leave

[22:14] them as they are?

[22:16] >> They look like little smurfs. They're

[22:17] light blue and white.

[22:18] >> Yeah. Well, I was told today that those

[22:20] are public private private school.

[22:22] >> Are they really?

[22:23] >> Yeah.

[22:23] >> Okay. [clears throat] We will go out and

[22:25] test those. But any service that's all

[22:27] done by the school, those are private

[22:29] hydr private hydrants.

[22:30] >> Okay.

[22:31] >> Yeah. I didn't know you could have a

[22:33] private one.

[22:34] >> Okay.

[22:36] >> Hey, I appreciate it. I had the chance

[22:37] to talk to Mr. Globe Carr a couple uh Saturdays ago in in the yard

[22:43] and it's it's a fantastic project. You

[22:45] and I know you've probably seen his

[22:49] stuff, what he's done from Rotary. But I

[22:52] mean the fire hydrants once you

[22:54] mentioned them, it's kind of like once

[22:55] those things you start seeing. I've been

[22:57] driving around now. I'm like looking at

[22:58] the fire hydrants. I'm like, "Oh my

[23:00] gosh." like I didn't I didn't even see

[23:02] them a lot of them before and it's

[23:06] >> it's something a community kind of

[23:08] ignores and if I looked at all of them

[23:10] I' I've looked at personally seen at

[23:12] least 400 of them 450 of them

[23:14] >> and I will tell you about 20% look

[23:17] pretty decent

[23:18] >> which tells you the other 80% probably

[23:21] a little

[23:24] » Yep. So, I I'm I'm fully behind the

[23:27] prime. I mean, I the one that you

[23:29] painted looks fantastic. I walked down

[23:31] and and saw that. And on top of the

[23:33] painting, the just the cleaning them and

[23:35] making making sure that, you know,

[23:37] they're functional and ready to go and

[23:38] not have old chipped, you know, paint

[23:41] would be a benefit as well.

[23:43] >> Now, I have to tell you, there's a lot

[23:45] of concerns that have been, you know,

[23:47] you can't have just slopping paint on

[23:49] there. you got to and there's a lot of

[23:51] like I said legitimate concerns [cough]

[23:54] from the dredge to the to the the valve

[23:57] cap on the top and stuff like [snorts]

[23:58] that. So

[23:59] >> use a lot.

[24:03] >> Yep. So however we can responsibly move

[24:05] forward and addressing those those

[24:08] concerns especially I I had mentioned to

[24:12] um Andy like I think it would look great

[24:15] even if we started in 44 and 153 kind of

[24:19] high traffic

[24:20] >> areas and then we already have the

[24:22] divisions broken up for how we do the

[24:24] sidewalk program. Would it make sense to

[24:26] attack it by section that way?

[24:30] >> Um but I yeah I was excited.

[24:33] >> So that was actually on my list under

[24:34] new business. Um I presume then that

[24:37] council is okay with granting the

[24:39] permission to start the project and we

[24:42] have just probably a few more details to

[24:44] work out but we'll we'll get it we'll

[24:45] get it going or Mr. Wilbachar will get

[24:47] it going.

[24:48] >> [laughter]

[24:49] >> I have anticipated talking just so you

[24:51] know.

[24:53] >> I mean I have no problem talking

[24:56] excited about the the project.

[24:57] >> The one that you did there in our

[24:58] neighborhood is that it's probably over

[24:59] [cough] by the water tower. Is it close?

[25:01] Okay. Is is that what we can expect or

[25:04] is there a few different um designs?

[25:07] >> Well, so this is in the details, you

[25:09] know. Um, initially I thought, oh,

[25:12] everybody, you know, we get a good

[25:14] community project going so on and so

[25:15] forth, you know, and you you put your

[25:17] stars on it, you know, and stuff like

[25:19] that and decorated patriotic, but one

[25:23] 700, you know, and all those fine

[25:24] details could be a little tricky. Okay.

[25:27] Two, um,

[25:29] there's, like I said, there's painting

[25:31] restrictions, so not anybody can just

[25:33] slap stuff on. And the paint's

[25:36] important, but the preparation's equally

[25:38] as important. Um, so to answer your

[25:42] question, perhaps coming in and coming

[25:46] into Lewisville and the main arteries

[25:49] would be um where you'd want to put a

[25:52] lot of, you know, good energy.

[25:54] >> And I've thought about this through

[25:55] there's five different uh

[25:57] >> districts, [clears throat] okay? And you

[26:00] do the districts, right? And I don't

[26:02] know if it's community thing, you know,

[26:04] depending on how we go, okay? But you

[26:07] take the the top five in each district,

[26:09] top 10, and let them do the main

[26:11] arteries, you know, and make them look

[26:12] good, you know, and and it's

[26:15] Constitution Town, and this is something

[26:17] that'll last

[26:19] on average at this particular point.

[26:23] Again, if you just throw paint on it,

[26:25] you know, it'll be ready the next year.

[26:26] It'll be chip and but it could be good

[26:28] fy year, you know.

[26:30] >> Sure.

[26:33] » Any other questions? Rod, is this

[26:36] something you guys would have to do?

[26:38] >> What? Paint?

[26:39] >> Yeah. If if he if he if he didn't do it

[26:42] for that

[26:42] >> that's a service. So you guys would be

[26:44] you guys would have to do this if it was

[26:46] if Joe wasn't taking this project on.

[26:49] >> Well,

[26:50] >> that's I was going to say I remember

[26:51] growing up I mean I'm the one here, but

[26:54] growing up the the service department

[26:56] did come around and we would, you know,

[26:58] gather around and watch them paint. It

[26:59] [laughter] was something cool back then.

[27:02] >> You'd watch paint dry.

[27:03] >> Yes. side

[27:05] >> for fun.

[27:05] >> That was because we didn't have cell

[27:07] phones or anything. We ride our bikes

[27:08] and go over there painting the

[27:11] >> We thought that was really neat.

[27:13] >> The other part of this is and I like I

[27:16] said, there's some beautiful

[27:17] neighborhoods. It'll kind of give

[27:19] community pride too, you know,

[27:21] >> and and some of these are blending into

[27:22] the background and you don't want that,

[27:25] >> okay? You want them to stand out,

[27:27] >> okay? Um for many reasons, but that's

[27:30] important. As as of right now, I've not

[27:32] heard anything that's committing city

[27:34] workers to doing the painting.

[27:36] >> Well, I just wondered if he wasn't doing

[27:37] it, would that be your responsibility?

[27:40] And how often do you guys have to do

[27:42] that?

[27:42] >> Hasn't been done.

[27:46] » Okay.

[27:46] >> Perfectly fine. Fire department wants to

[27:48] jump on it and do it, too. [laughter]

[27:51] >> I didn't want to commit anybody to

[27:52] anything. That wasn't

[27:53] >> We can't hold a paper.

[27:54] >> Can't hold.

[27:55] >> One one of the things Mr. Wilar

[27:57] mentioned that I think he had 50

[27:59] volunteers at the point when we had

[28:00] talked that had signed up that were

[28:02] willing

[28:03] >> um to help.

[28:05] >> No,

[28:05] >> that's not true. I'm sorry.

[28:07] >> It was an idea. Talking to my friends, I

[28:11] said, "Do you think it would be a good

[28:12] idea?" I said, "I'm not asking you to

[28:15] paint. I'm not asking you for a

[28:16] donation."

[28:18] >> So I So

[28:19] >> he's standing behind what he

[28:21] >> So I thought you said, "No, no, no.

[28:23] We're not willing to help."

[28:24] >> No, no. I would put my [laughter]

[28:29] >> Okay, so we we'll cross that bridge.

[28:31] >> Yeah.

[28:31] >> Okay, sounds good.

[28:33] >> Definitely wouldn't neglect the

[28:35] maintenance of the parks and the roads

[28:36] to paint fire.

[28:38] >> See what we can do.

[28:40] >> Okay. All right. Um let's move on to

[28:45] um new business. Um, and looks like we

[28:50] have here a recommendation for the

[28:51] construction manager at risk for the

[28:54] city hall construction project from the

[28:56] CMR evaluation committee.

[29:00] >> Yes. So, I guess for the benefit of the

[29:02] council members [clears throat] work

[29:03] here when we went through this process

[29:05] for the fire station, uh, there's two

[29:07] primary ways you can do a project like

[29:09] this. One is to have it designed,

[29:12] engineered, and then you go out to bid

[29:14] where interested people will submit a

[29:17] bid. You pick the lowest and best bid.

[29:19] Another way, which is more recently

[29:22] allowable in the state of Ohio, is the

[29:24] construction manager at risk process

[29:26] where you bring a company on board early

[29:29] on to work with the architects and the

[29:32] engineers primarily in the interest of

[29:36] uh reducing cost. they're more familiar

[29:38] with the market availability of supplies

[29:40] and materials and can incorporate those

[29:43] uh variables into the into the design

[29:46] and the engineering of the building. Uh

[29:48] we did the Seymour process with this

[29:50] building. It worked out really well. Uh

[29:52] so we decided to do it again with the

[29:54] city hall building. Uh it's all spelled

[29:58] out in many many many places in the high

[30:00] revised code. There's all different

[30:02] types of rules and procedures and

[30:04] processes that you have to follow. But

[30:07] the short of it is we uh had to develop

[30:09] an evaluation committee which we did.

[30:12] All of the firms that responded to the

[30:14] request for qualifications were

[30:16] evaluated. We shortlisted three of them

[30:19] meaning we picked the top three. Those

[30:21] three firms then were issued what's

[30:24] called a request for proposal where they

[30:26] provide both pricing and technical

[30:28] information

[30:30] and then we evaluate those responses and

[30:33] we have to subscribe points to different

[30:35] uh categories that they're required to

[30:38] cover. We went through that entire

[30:40] process. Uh the top three firms that

[30:43] were shortlisted were Hley Construction

[30:45] who built this building beaver

[30:47] constructors and capital building. And

[30:50] after going through the entire process,

[30:52] Beaver Constructors is who came out from

[30:55] a point perspective on top and

[30:57] determined to be the best value for the

[30:59] city for the city hall project. Um after

[31:03] you identify that uh best value firm,

[31:08] there are a few things you have to

[31:12] uh check on in essence before

[31:15] uh the legislative body which of course

[31:17] is you can accept the recommendation of

[31:19] the committee. So I'm just going to run

[31:21] down that list real quick here. Uh and

[31:23] this is specific to the Beaver

[31:26] Constructor Company. They have no

[31:27] unresolved findings for recovery issued

[31:30] by the state auditor. They are not

[31:32] debarred under OC 15302. They have not

[31:35] been found by a court to be in default

[31:37] of a judgment or breach of a settlement

[31:39] agreement. They have not violated

[31:41] revised code 3517102

[31:44] by exceeding campaign contribution

[31:46] limits.

[31:47] There have been no clerical errors found

[31:50] in the process that would change who the

[31:53] recommendation is. uh there are no

[31:56] conflicts of interest known between the

[31:58] voting members of the committee and any

[32:00] of the top three firms and uh they are

[32:05] enrolled in and are in good standing

[32:07] with a drug-free workplace program. So

[32:11] having said all that our recommendation

[32:13] to council for who will serve as a

[32:17] construction manager at risk for the

[32:18] city hall project would be be

[32:20] constructors. Assuming that you accept

[32:23] that recommendation,

[32:25] we would then work to come to an

[32:27] agreement on a contract with them, which

[32:29] you would see the first reading of at

[32:32] the first meeting in September. If for

[32:34] some reason, and I think it would be

[32:36] very unlikely, that we are not able to

[32:38] come to an agreement with the contract

[32:41] or on a contract with them, we would

[32:42] then close negotiations and move to the

[32:46] next on the list.

[32:48] So, that's where we're at.

[32:51] Guy, I know you were part of this

[32:53] process.

[32:55] >> Yeah. Um,

[32:56] >> what would you like to share?

[32:59] >> I thought Andy did a phenomenal job of

[33:01] putting this together. It was a ton of

[33:02] work for him. Um, we had a really good

[33:05] day um interviewing all three of these

[33:10] construction companies. We had Daryl on

[33:12] site and Corey Smith who did a great job

[33:14] of asking questions to all three of them

[33:18] from a construction perspective, from a

[33:20] preconstruct uh construction

[33:22] perspective. They did a phenomenal job

[33:24] with that. We had the architects here

[33:27] who also were non- voting members, but

[33:30] they

[33:32] really assisted us with a lot of the

[33:34] questions. And Andy had it set up pretty

[33:37] good, too, where we had some time in

[33:38] between each one of these where we could

[33:41] discuss not only the prior construction

[33:44] company, but the one to come. So, after

[33:47] we went through a lot of the uh a lot of

[33:49] their proposal,

[33:52] we could kind of, I guess, prompt our

[33:55] architects on what questions that we

[33:58] wanted them to ask from an architect

[34:00] perspective and how to frame those

[34:02] questions. And so we had enough time to

[34:04] do all of that. It just really went

[34:06] smooth. Um Andy kept us on task the

[34:09] whole way through and it it was a great

[34:13] process. I know it's a lot of work, but

[34:16] I I think it's it's it's a lot better

[34:19] for government and it's a lot better for

[34:22] our city to go through what we went

[34:24] through and a long day and a long

[34:28] process to get through all of this. But

[34:30] I've been involved with stuff like this

[34:32] before where you have to take the lowest

[34:34] bid. And I I think, you know, the city,

[34:38] the residents, the taxpayers, the city

[34:40] as a whole is better off for what we had

[34:43] to go through and what we're going

[34:45] through um using this process. So, I

[34:48] appreciate what you guys did

[34:51] uh to get us to this point. As I said, I

[34:54] think everybody would agree that this method of uh acquiring these

[35:00] projects

[35:01] worked really well with the fire

[35:03] department. And I and I agree the the

[35:06] concept of going out to bid with the

[35:10] engineering documents, you know, the bid

[35:12] documents for a project of of this size

[35:15] or the size of city hall. Um

[35:19] I think it leaves a lot to be desired.

[35:21] I'm much more comfortable with this

[35:22] process when it comes time to build.

[35:24] the

[35:26] builders, the architects, the engineers

[35:27] are all on the same page because they

[35:29] came up with it together and there's

[35:32] really, I think, a lot less room for

[35:34] error.

[35:35] >> Dave, I'm sorry. I think I left you out

[35:36] of that, but I appreciate what you did,

[35:38] too.

[35:39] >> Thanks. [laughter]

[35:41] >> Now, Beaver Beaver's local, correct?

[35:45] >> Beaver, their headquarters, I believe,

[35:46] are in Perry Township.

[35:51] They're they're from the area. Yes.

[35:53] >> About 30.

[35:54] >> Yeah.

[35:56] >> So there's there's Beaver Escavating

[35:59] which has been around for I think 75

[36:01] plus years and then Beaver Constructors

[36:04] which is a separate company owned by the

[36:06] same people that have been around I

[36:08] think over 15 years. And they they did

[36:12] they have the contract for the at

[36:14] Massland for the some of the additions

[36:16] they done over at the school?

[36:18] >> Yes.

[36:18] >> Like for the football? Uh

[36:20] >> yeah, they were working on it.

[36:21] >> Football facility. It's covering every

[36:23] inch of grass over there.

[36:24] >> Yeah, they're they've got that they're

[36:27] the Key Bank Center at the Hall of Fame.

[36:30] >> The library too, I think.

[36:31] >> Library and fire station

[36:35] >> and

[36:35] >> those projects will be complete.

[36:37] completions of those projects

[36:38] corresponds with what we would be

[36:40] starting

[36:41] >> and and obviously we would pick the

[36:43] best, you know, value for our taxpayer

[36:46] money, but it's a I think it's an added

[36:48] bonus when they have local employees.

[36:51] You know, it helps the local economy,

[36:52] you know, Stark County at large.

[36:54] >> Absolutely.

[36:56] >> And I think they felt very strongly

[36:57] about this project being a local

[36:59] project. They specified that they really

[37:01] wanted this project and I I I anticipate

[37:04] they'll do a good job. they were

[37:06] extremely competitive on the on the

[37:08] pricing portion. And when we when we

[37:10] talk about the pricing versus the

[37:11] technical, the pricing isn't

[37:15] what we would all know as the the

[37:18] guarantee maximum price. Uh it's the the

[37:21] fees that are associated with their work

[37:23] on the project. We don't have a cost for

[37:24] the building yet. It's it's what their

[37:26] fees are for the work based on uh what

[37:30] is available at the time.

[37:32] And they again they were very very

[37:34] competitive. And I think I think we're

[37:36] really fortunate too to have two really quality companies that came in to

[37:42] interview um to choose from.

[37:46] >> So, you know, I mean, we are in a big

[37:49] county and you know, you would you would

[37:51] expect that, but we're just fortunate to

[37:53] have quality companies like that that

[37:56] can do this size of a project without a

[37:59] problem.

[38:01] >> Great.

[38:02] Any

[38:04] further questions?

[38:06] I'm okay to vote on this, right?

[38:08] >> Yes, we defer.

[38:10] >> Okay.

[38:14] Do you need a motion?

[38:15] >> We would just Yeah, just a motion

[38:16] accepting the recommendation of the

[38:18] evaluation committee.

[38:19] >> I'll make the motion to accept the uh

[38:21] recommendation.

[38:22] >> Second.

[38:24] >> Okay, let's go ahead and vote.

[38:26] >> Gdone,

[38:27] >> yes.

[38:28] >> Johnston,

[38:28] >> yes.

[38:29] >> Mallister Atkins,

[38:30] >> yes. Street.

[38:32] >> Yes.

[38:32] >> Alanthic.

[38:33] >> Yes.

[38:35] >> Okay. Very good.

[38:39] » I believe we will need a motion also uh

[38:43] for council to appoint Tiffany as your

[38:45] design uh to complete the required

[38:48] attorney general's sunshine volatility.

[38:51] >> Okay. And I appreciate that. Um I know

[38:55] >> you know Tiffany we're trying to clean

[38:56] things up and do more things just by

[38:58] motion. Make sure they're they're part

[38:59] of the record. I just want to make sure

[39:02] I I know some of the trainings at least

[39:04] when we've looked at in the past it's

[39:05] always during the day when a lot of us

[39:08] are at work and I don't want to assume

[39:10] does anybody want to complete the

[39:12] training or are we okay with Tiffany

[39:14] completing it as our designate and then

[39:17] informing us keeping us keep us on the

[39:20] right side of the of the law.

[39:22] >> We do already have two that did complete

[39:24] it. Um Guy and Trisha both completed it

[39:27] um on their own. [laughter] So,

[39:30] you get the goal. So, I know it's

[39:33] difficult. It is a three-hour training,

[39:34] and you're more than welcome to do it,

[39:36] too, Joanie, if you wanted to watch in

[39:38] with it, or I could be the designate,

[39:41] and you can do both.

[39:43] >> It's all yours. [laughter]

[39:46] >> Yeah. I'll make the motion to accept

[39:48] Tiffany as the uh [laughter]

[39:50] designate for the Sunshine Law Training.

[39:53] >> Second.

[39:54] >> Okay. No further.

[39:56] [laughter]

[39:57] >> Let's go ahead and vote. Gdone,

[39:59] >> yes.

[40:00] >> Johnston,

[40:01] >> yes.

[40:01] >> Mallister Atkins,

[40:02] >> yes.

[40:03] >> Street,

[40:03] >> yes.

[40:03] >> Aliance,

[40:04] >> yes.

[40:05] >> Now, was that motion just for me?

[40:07] >> It's it's for whoever doesn't.

[40:09] >> All right. It's for everyone. All right.

[40:11] >> In and in in the past, it's been in the

[40:13] past it's been everyone,

[40:14] >> correct? For our contin practice.

[40:18] >> I can tell you it has gotten a little

[40:20] more lengthy compared to what it was.

[40:22] [laughter]

[40:23] >> It's interesting though.

[40:25] >> [cough]

[40:27] » So you're so you're saying encourage

[40:30] >> encouraging people to do it, right?

[40:32] >> Yeah. One of those flights to Europe

[40:33] that you right

[40:37] >> get the internet do it.

[40:38] >> Yeah. Yeah. Very good.

[40:39] >> Requiring everybody to

[40:42] >> um Okay. Hey,

[40:44] >> let's let's go ahead for um department

[40:48] I'm sorry I skipped over department head

[40:51] uh reports. So,

[40:54] >> one more thing if I could be there. Um,

[40:55] I sent you the information on that train

[40:57] f company with

[40:59] >> uh, you know, I've met with them a

[41:01] couple of times. They do seem to have a

[41:03] great product, especially for

[41:05] communities like ours. Uh,

[41:07] unfortunately, it is it is very

[41:09] expensive. So, what I left with them was

[41:12] that it likely wouldn't be something

[41:14] that would get funded unless it was

[41:16] considerable grant funding. U, but I

[41:18] think that will maybe help us seek that

[41:20] out. But essentially for anybody get a

[41:22] chance to take a look at it. It would be

[41:24] a notification sent uh system for

[41:28] residents and for first responders when

[41:30] a when a train is stopped on the track

[41:32] as

[41:32] >> it was a little while ago for an

[41:34] extended period of time uh so that

[41:36] people could pre plan to avoid the area

[41:40] but again it's it's it's not

[41:42] inexpensive.

[41:44] I know we have some really good grant

[41:46] writers.

[41:49] » Are the train stoppages happening more

[41:51] than usual this year?

[41:53] >> No, I think beyond the one that lasted for so long

[41:58] which was caused by a derailment. I I

[42:00] don't know that there are any any more

[42:02] frequent.

[42:02] >> I think there was just another one that

[42:04] same week.

[42:05] >> Yes.

[42:06] >> It just happened to be on the same

[42:08] >> one that was considerably more

[42:12] >> Yeah.

[42:14] We as city officials have a lot of the

[42:17] same questions that the community had as

[42:20] far as why they, you know, why they

[42:21] couldn't have backed it up, why, you

[42:23] know, why it was necessary to stop,

[42:25] >> why they don't give us a warning.

[42:26] why

[42:27] the information about what's going on so

[42:30] slowly. As I have said before, we are at

[42:33] the whim of the railroad.

[42:36] Have we experienced any problems with

[42:38] like um our emergency services

[42:41] getting stuck or not being able to make

[42:43] it somewhere?

[42:44] >> So, fortunately from the police

[42:46] standpoint, it's it's relatively easy

[42:48] for the police vehicles to to get around

[42:51] that and I know that fire chief of

[42:53] course coordinates with the township on

[42:55] necessary responses. So, it doesn't uh

[42:58] not that it creates an ideal situation,

[43:00] but it doesn't uh create the kind of

[43:02] issues that I think most people would be

[43:04] concerned about with respect to public

[43:05] safety.

[43:08] >> This company, did they reach out to you

[43:11] >> or did you Were you looking for

[43:12] something?

[43:13] >> They reached out to us.

[43:15] >> Okay. This it's been a couple of months

[43:17] ago that they did that. We've I've had a

[43:19] couple of online meetings with them.

[43:21] Several of those meetings with them.

[43:23] >> Um because then, you know, they had to

[43:25] obviously get some information from us,

[43:27] take a look at the tracks, get some data

[43:30] to come up with a cost to for our

[43:32] particular circumstance.

[43:33] >> Okay. And I replied to your email, but

[43:36] not until like five o'clock today, so

[43:37] you wouldn't have seen it. Uh, a question I had though was, is

[43:43] there something else out there for first

[43:45] responders

[43:47] instead of a big system, a big elaborate

[43:49] system like that? Is there something

[43:51] that they already have? Do the does the railroad company not like allow

[43:56] people to see their schedules and things

[43:58] of that nature? Do they not send out

[44:00] alerts? Is there a way we can do this

[44:01] without

[44:02] >> I I don't know that the schedule would

[44:04] be the issue. It would be the

[44:05] unanticipated stops. Okay. That that

[44:07] >> kind of create the problem. Um

[44:10] >> and again it's very difficult to

[44:15] >> deal with the railroad

[44:16] >> with railroad.

[44:18] >> What's that?

[44:18] >> Lewisville is not unique with railroads.

[44:21] They are just

[44:22] >> if you do some researching online, you

[44:25] will find a lot of communities that have

[44:27] the same issues. I didn't know if there

[44:29] was maybe a smaller system or an easier

[44:32] just something for Yes, I know it's a

[44:34] pain for citizens that, you know, you're

[44:36] coming into town and you have to sit for

[44:37] an hour. I I get that. Um, however, the

[44:40] important would be that a firetruck can

[44:42] get around. Um, which sounds like Rod's

[44:45] already got something in place with

[44:47] Nichell. I'm sure the police have

[44:49] somebody always on both sides of the

[44:50] tracks at all times. I mean, this isn't

[44:52] these these railroad tracks are not new

[44:54] to our town. So,

[44:55] >> correct. And we've also of course

[44:57] [clears throat] had a lot of experience

[44:58] with the flooding which also kind of

[45:00] cuts the the city in half when it

[45:02] happens. So

[45:03] >> I know police and fire are good at

[45:05] adapting to what those circumstances

[45:07] happen.

[45:10] » Where where do we stand with the with

[45:13] the crossings?

[45:16] » Well, the good news is the stuff that we

[45:19] can control.

[45:20] Uh you see the second set of tracks that

[45:23] was on constitution that was um so poor

[45:27] they've been removed and that's been

[45:28] aspholded. We are still waiting for word

[45:32] from Norolk Southern on the potential

[45:36] cost of installing the rubber

[45:41] surfaces over the crossings and uh the privately owned ones. They are also

[45:48] waiting to get information about the

[45:49] company that can because they would also

[45:51] like to install the rubber surfaces to

[45:54] make the consistent smooth. But again,

[45:57] we're relying on the railroad.

[46:01] Well, we'll just we'll take a followup

[46:02] next meeting where where where that's

[46:05] at.

[46:05] >> Okay.

[46:08] Anything else?

[46:09] >> That's all I have.

[46:11] >> All right, Chief.

[46:12] >> Uh, thank you, Mayor. fire department

[46:14] has nothing new to report today unless

[46:16] someone has some questions for me.

[46:18] >> I did see him out um do a few flushing

[46:21] of the hydrants on [snorts]

[46:23] >> Actually, we're we're testing the flow

[46:24] rates on them.

[46:25] >> Oh, is that what that was?

[46:26] >> Yeah, we do a a district every year. So,

[46:28] they're they're in district three right

[46:30] now, which is

[46:30] >> just before it started raining buckets.

[46:32] They had to get soaked.

[46:34] >> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter]

[46:36] >> Yep. That'll be going on till they get

[46:38] district done. Yeah.

[46:39] >> Okay.

[46:39] >> All right. Very good, Dave.

[46:41] >> Mayor, council, I have nothing. this

[46:43] time. Okay,

[46:45] >> Darl.

[46:46] >> Uh, actually, I do have a few things I

[46:48] was excited to tell you all about. The

[46:51] air conditioning that the Constitution

[46:54] Center is wrapping up. They're finishing

[46:56] up.

[46:57] >> Great.

[46:58] >> So, they'll have cold air just in time

[47:00] for it to turn fall and get cold

[47:02] outside. [laughter]

[47:04] >> I know that the community cupboard will

[47:06] be happy to hear that. So, they're

[47:08] dynamic HVAC is doing that job. They're

[47:11] doing an actual They're doing a really

[47:13] good job installing that.

[47:15] >> Um the other thing I wanted to point

[47:17] out, this was at the end of July, but we

[47:19] didn't have a meeting um since then, but

[47:22] New Point Church came into town. I think

[47:24] you and I talked about this a little

[47:26] bit. They um we kind of did a joint um

[47:30] project with them. They wanted to bring

[47:32] in people and do some work in the parks.

[47:35] So we went ahead normally every other

[47:37] year we get playground mulch for some of

[47:39] the playgrounds and we got playground

[47:41] mulch for Eljansik and Wilson and they

[47:44] brought in a group of like 20ome people

[47:46] and they spread the mulch out and did a

[47:48] really beautiful job. So if you get a

[47:50] chance I I was going to bring pictures

[47:51] but if you get a chance to go by

[47:52] Eljansik and Wilson it looks I was

[47:54] vibing there again today. It looks looks

[47:56] really really nice. So

[47:58] >> awesome. Um, thankful.

[48:00] >> Your splash pad is like I've never saw

[48:03] somebody put a splash pad on.

[48:05] >> It is a Yeah, it is a I was excited.

[48:08] I've been driving around the parks and

[48:09] we're um the baseball fields are being

[48:11] used maybe not so much in Meer Park, but

[48:15] um Wildwood's being used quite a bit.

[48:17] Splash pad is just every day people are

[48:20] knocking on the door to get in there.

[48:21] So, it's it's cool to see like to see

[48:24] this stuff get used.

[48:25] >> Absolutely.

[48:26] >> For sure. Um,

[48:28] and then the last thing I'll bring up,

[48:30] and this is kind of a knock on wood sort

[48:32] of a thing, uh, the the Cle Creek creek

[48:35] clearing project that we've been doing,

[48:38] uh, we we keep track of the rainfall

[48:40] amounts at the sewer plant um, at the

[48:42] end of Chapel down here. So, we um,

[48:46] Sunday there was about an inch and a

[48:48] half of rain, and to my knowledge, we

[48:51] didn't see any issues around town as as

[48:54] far as flooding. And that's happened a

[48:55] couple of times this year, but I'm

[48:57] pointing out this past Sunday, I

[48:58] actually had one of our employees says

[49:00] he has a rain gauge at his

[49:01] father-in-law's house, and he said he

[49:03] got over two inches of rain in his

[49:04] father-in-law's house. That's an

[49:06] enormous amount of rain. And I would

[49:09] like to say, knock on wood, hopefully

[49:10] that's due to some of the creek clearing

[49:12] that we've been able to accomplish and

[49:14] some of that project, but again, we're

[49:17] excited that so far it seems like that's going well with the flooding

[49:20] around town.

[49:24] Darl, weren't you? We are applying for

[49:26] some additional funding. Can that too?

[49:28] >> Yeah, Miss Kingham Watershed has a

[49:30] couple of different grant options for us

[49:32] that we are applying for. Um, we're kind

[49:35] of in the process right now. The first

[49:36] one is a one-time grant of 20,000 that

[49:39] you can apply for and get funding, but

[49:41] it's a it's a one-time deal. Um they but

[49:44] what they advised us was to go ahead and

[49:46] apply for that grant because if they

[49:49] deem your project to be an ongoing

[49:51] project that can go year after year, they have a continuing

[49:55] funding uh source for that that we might

[49:57] be able to get to. So,

[50:00] I will say that that the creek clearing,

[50:03] it's kind of one of them things where

[50:06] those guys take material out of that

[50:08] creek, okay? And the water level goes

[50:10] down and then they move down the stream

[50:12] and they keep going. Well, what happens

[50:14] is the water level goes down and it just

[50:16] exposes more stuff in the bottom of the

[50:18] creek. So, then they got to go come back

[50:20] and almost start over, take more out.

[50:22] And there's just that much stuff in that

[50:24] creek down there. I would love to take

[50:27] pictures and show you guys, but every

[50:28] time I go to do that, it's just exposed

[50:31] more logs and stuff laying in the bottom

[50:32] of it. And I'd show you those and you'd

[50:34] be like, "Well, they didn't do

[50:35] anything." So, [laughter]

[50:36] um, but yeah, Dave's right. There is a

[50:39] couple of grant opportunities for us

[50:41] that we were looking into to keep that

[50:43] going.

[50:44] >> We are in the process. Commissioner

[50:45] Harold, me and Andy were at an event and

[50:48] he is we set up a meeting here a couple

[50:51] weeks with Muskang about possibly

[50:53] getting additional funding for projects

[50:56] here in those

[50:58] >> chief you see like where I live where

[51:01] it's been flooded like worst it's

[51:03] flooded since I've lived there worst

[51:06] I've had ducks and geese because it's my

[51:09] whole backyard is like nothing but a

[51:10] pond

[51:13] and he was there so you saw But I mean

[51:15] it it was never like that. It was always

[51:17] messers got that got flooded that into

[51:19] town.

[51:19] >> That was Yeah, that was such an enormous

[51:22] amount of water. And that wasn't it

[51:24] wasn't due to the creeks overflowing. It

[51:26] was because [snorts]

[51:27] >> the amount of water

[51:28] >> the volume of water the

[51:31] storm sewer system just couldn't absorb

[51:33] it as quickly as it was accumulating.

[51:35] >> I mean that wasn't the only time. It

[51:37] just happened the other day. Was it two

[51:40] days ago or whatever? I couldn't mow

[51:41] yesterday. I could mow the front and the

[51:42] side, but I couldn't mow my backyard

[51:44] because the wheels were soaked on my

[51:46] lawnmower.

[51:47] >> That's definitely

[51:48] >> my backyard is just

[51:50] >> And my neighbor too, he said he's never

[51:53] had that much water in his backyard

[51:55] either. And then when I had somebody

[51:57] that's coming to look at my house to add

[51:59] some um soil, he looked in the creek at

[52:02] the creek or whatever and he said

[52:04] there's a big island of silt or you know

[52:09] sand and stuff or dirt that's all there

[52:11] and he he quoted me a price for him to

[52:14] take it out, but it's not my yard. It's

[52:16] not I said, "No, it's not my property.

[52:19] So, we'll see what the creep people have

[52:22] to say." He said, "It's just been

[52:24] accumulating for decades." And It's

[52:26] there.

[52:30] » How far on the the creek removal is it?

[52:33] Are they all the way done? Are they

[52:35] halfway? Are they 3/4 where?

[52:37] >> What percentage that project or that?

[52:39] Because a lot of it we don't you can't

[52:41] see from the road.

[52:43] >> I don't know that you can see. [cough]

[52:45] >> Oh, [clears throat] it's going to be a

[52:47] multi-year.

[52:49] So if if you look at the the watershed,

[52:53] the where we started is the southern

[52:55] portion of the city uh pretty much near

[52:58] the city limits at the main the main

[53:01] branch and then as you go north up to

[53:04] say West Main Street, you cross under

[53:08] 153 and then you have the area that you

[53:10] just referenced kind of across from me.

[53:12] But then if there's tributaries that go

[53:14] off. So, if if you're talking about all

[53:16] of it, it's definitely going to be a

[53:18] multi-year project.

[53:21] We'll of course continue to make

[53:22] progress with what seems, as Daryl said,

[53:25] knock on wood, which seems to have a

[53:27] very positive effect on the on the water

[53:29] coming out of the banks, but it's going

[53:31] to be a process.

[53:33] >> And just for landmark reference points,

[53:37] um the first phase of it took us up

[53:39] almost past where the cemetery is on

[53:44] out here. So

[53:46] they're Yeah, thank you. So they're

[53:49] about even with that. That's the first

[53:52] phase of it. But like he said, that was

[53:53] us going all the way down to the border,

[53:56] the city limits down there and starting

[53:58] there and working our way up past the

[53:59] sewer plant, starting to head north from

[54:01] there.

[54:04] » I I don't know that I remember a summer

[54:08] where at some point we did not have

[54:10] flooding over Main Street Chapel. That's

[54:13] what we very fortunately have not had

[54:14] this year.

[54:15] >> Yeah. And we all have that. So there's

[54:17] that level gauge that's on the bridge

[54:19] there that runs over 44 on the north

[54:22] side up there. And I keep we all have So

[54:24] a lot of us in the service department,

[54:25] we have you can get alerts for that.

[54:28] >> You can sign up to get an alert when it

[54:29] goes over a certain threshold. We've all

[54:31] been kind of waiting to get an alert

[54:32] that it's gone over that threshold and

[54:34] it just doesn't it hasn't yet. So again,

[54:37] knock on wood, but hopefully that's good

[54:39] news.

[54:40] >> Okay. Well, that that almost seems like

[54:42] an ongoing project, I would think,

[54:44] right? I mean,

[54:45] >> well, I I think so. And and and Darl,

[54:48] tell me if you disagree. I it's I don't

[54:51] know this has ever been done before.

[54:53] >> Uh as far as cleaning the the creek, the

[54:57] bed clearing, which is what the the Army

[54:59] Corp of Engineer calls it.

[55:01] >> I don't know that it's ever been done.

[55:02] There are probably trees in there that

[55:04] have been there for

[55:05] >> 50 years. I don't think it has. And most

[55:09] largely due to the the fear of touching

[55:12] any of it because for the longest time

[55:13] it was like what [clears throat] can you

[55:14] do? What what are you allowed to do? You

[55:17] know

[55:17] >> and it wasn't until the Army Corps of

[55:20] Engineers come they came in and did

[55:21] their report and they they said hey this

[55:23] is your best

[55:25] >> the best bang for your buck here just to

[55:27] clear the dead stuff out clear the

[55:28] debris out of it. That's addicted

[55:30] capacity in itself you know to just get

[55:32] that stuff out of the way. So

[55:35] >> yeah, certainly not that it would

[55:37] require maintenance over time, but I

[55:40] ideally we would never be in this

[55:42] position again,

[55:43] >> but just looking at a really really

[55:45] small sample size of the tributary. I

[55:47] mean, I had about 300 feet in my

[55:49] backyard of the broad monarch and for 25

[55:53] years it it looked different all the

[55:56] time. I would clear it out, something

[55:57] else would fall or come down,

[56:00] >> you know, from the west. It was kind of

[56:03] constant. So if you're only looking at

[56:05] 300 feet there of a tributary, I can't

[56:07] even imagine over the course of 25 years

[56:11] what the Non Creek would look like.

[56:13] There's a lot more area to cover.

[56:15] >> There's a lot.

[56:16] >> Yeah.

[56:17] >> Darl, do you guys haul it away or do you

[56:19] just put it out far on the banks where

[56:22] it could?

[56:22] >> So what they they did was they brought

[56:24] in a wood chipper.

[56:25] >> Okay.

[56:26] >> And um a lot of the bigger [snorts]

[56:28] stuff was they had to haul away, but

[56:30] then as much as they possibly could.

[56:32] They were just chipping it up and just

[56:34] spraying it off into the away from the bank there.

[56:38] >> Okay. Yeah, we're we're paying a company

[56:40] to do it. Our our service guys are doing

[56:42] it. Gotcha.

[56:44] >> Yeah. I'm sorry. I probably should have

[56:45] clarified that, but yeah, it's the tree

[56:47] company that's coming in to help us out.

[56:50] >> And did you see an advantage at the

[56:52] water treatment plant of like excess

[56:55] water that it's pumping through there or

[56:57] No, you just saw that we haven't been

[56:59] flooding.

[57:00] >> Not Not yet. But I'm not entirely

[57:02] convinced that that that the two are

[57:06] 100% related. I'm sure there's some

[57:08] crossing over there, but

[57:10] >> um not to get off on whatever, but that

[57:14] that's I think that's got some other

[57:15] issues there why we're seeing those high

[57:17] flows. Okay.

[57:18] >> I think there's other issues

[57:19] contributing to that.

[57:22] >> Okay.

[57:24] >> Surface water. Yes.

[57:27] >> It's a high flow and then it drops off.

[57:29] So it's that indicates a big rush of

[57:32] water about not necessarily.

[57:36] >> Okay. And that's one of the many

[57:37] projects that the service department is

[57:39] pursuing to to address that so that we

[57:41] can get that

[57:43] >> that uh processing rate a little closer

[57:46] to the number that we of gallons of

[57:49] water that we produce.

[57:51] >> Okay.

[57:53] >> Very good.

[57:54] >> Chief,

[57:56] >> um I don't have much. It starts

[57:58] tomorrow. So, my SRO's are back. And uh

[58:00] we need crossing guards if anybody knows

[58:03] anybody. Yeah. Yeah. And uh second,

[58:07] >> retirees are probably the best.

[58:09] >> I know.

[58:10] >> Still in good working shape, but with

[58:13] the time to be able to serve.

[58:15] >> I agree. [laughter]

[58:16] I agree.

[58:17] >> You talk about Roman.

[58:19] >> That's right. That's right. Are you

[58:21] looking for a motion? [laughter]

[58:24] >> It's at wills. It's at completely at

[58:26] will. see his grandkids do.

[58:29] >> Yes.

[58:29] >> Cross my own grandkids on the woods.

[58:33] >> That's it. That's all I have.

[58:35] >> Um,

[58:37] how and I and I want to ask back to

[58:39] school, you know, obviously on my mind.

[58:42] How many issues do we have with people

[58:45] passing buses in the city?

[58:48] >> Not too often. And honestly, the the

[58:50] buses are really good. they have a

[58:52] reporting system down with us on how

[58:53] they can report it to us

[58:55] >> um and if we can get it on camera and

[58:57] make contact. So, it is it is not often

[58:59] that there's an issue. And honestly,

[59:01] most of the people who do they don't do

[59:04] it on purpose. They may just not realize

[59:06] or not have knowledge of how it works.

[59:09] >> I know it's a little bit different in a

[59:11] you know, in a city with a lower speed

[59:13] limit than out in the townships or roads

[59:16] where people are flying or

[59:17] >> correct, right,

[59:19] >> things like that. But yeah, I known some

[59:22] other cities seem to be having issues

[59:24] with it or they looked at different

[59:25] ways, but I just I never heard it

[59:27] brought up. I haven't heard it brought

[59:28] up by schools or us.

[59:30] >> It's not very often that they that they

[59:32] contact us. So, it is not an issue for

[59:34] us.

[59:35] >> All right. One more thing. I know it's

[59:38] hot topic and I talked to you already

[59:40] about it. Did the Did the flock cameras

[59:42] that got taken down, did those get

[59:43] replaced?

[59:45] >> We're working on it and um I talked to

[59:47] Detective Clark because he runs our

[59:48] flock camera system. So whether I I

[59:50] thought it would be better for him to

[59:52] he's going to come to the next council

[59:53] meeting to kind of explain how it works

[59:56] >> um because he runs it and then reports

[59:58] to me and it it's just I think more

[1:00:01] beneficial if you hear it from him

[1:00:02] because he can answer all your questions

[1:00:04] and it's been people have actually been

[1:00:06] coming into station and asking questions

[1:00:08] and we've been very open about what we

[1:00:10] use the cameras for, how we how it works

[1:00:12] and how it's monitored and then when

[1:00:14] people leave they have a little more

[1:00:16] assurance because they're they're

[1:00:17] reading stuff that isn't always

[1:00:18] accurate. Sure.

[1:00:19] >> So, he'll be explaining that next.

[1:00:21] >> Yeah. He's going to do a PowerPoint for

[1:00:22] you and everything. Love

[1:00:23] >> it.

[1:00:27] And was part of the

[1:00:28] >> over $3,000 expenditures that was on

[1:00:31] that list. That was one of the reasons

[1:00:33] why?

[1:00:34] >> No, that's just how we pay for it. Um,

[1:00:37] >> but did you pay for it because of the

[1:00:39] problems that we had with FEP?

[1:00:40] >> No, that's not that's not

[1:00:42] >> It wasn't related.

[1:00:43] >> No.

[1:00:43] >> Okay.

[1:00:45] >> Did Did the ones that get vandalized get

[1:00:46] Did they get replaced yet? They're going

[1:00:48] to

[1:00:48] >> They're going to Okay. So, North Canton

[1:00:50] had several as well. So,

[1:00:52] >> I guess we're not

[1:00:54] >> the only ones.

[1:00:55] >> We're not the only ones in the area. I'm

[1:00:57] sure.

[1:00:57] >> That's such a good point. Finding those

[1:01:00] people.

[1:01:01] >> Yeah, we they're they're very beneficial

[1:01:04] for us for plenty of things. He'll he'll

[1:01:07] do a PowerPoint, but like stolen

[1:01:08] vehicles, protects victims. If there's

[1:01:11] somebody who has a warrant and maybe a

[1:01:12] domestic violence victim and they leave

[1:01:14] in a car, we know what car they're in.

[1:01:16] Um, we've used it to find elderly people

[1:01:19] who drive off and may have a medical

[1:01:21] issue or mental health issue. Um, and we

[1:01:24] found them counties away or or in in our

[1:01:26] city. Um, if another county is looking

[1:01:28] for someone um who who may be missing,

[1:01:31] um, I know it's been used for find, you

[1:01:33] know, abducted children, missing

[1:01:35] children, um, missing adults. Um, we

[1:01:38] actually had a, um, speaking of school,

[1:01:41] someone that worked for the school have

[1:01:42] a medical issue and we were we were able

[1:01:45] to locate them in county because of the

[1:01:47] plot camera and get them an ambulance

[1:01:48] into a hospital. So, it's done a lot of

[1:01:51] really good things for us.

[1:01:52] >> Yeah.

[1:01:52] >> Well, it'd be interesting to know what

[1:01:55] you didn't find because some were

[1:01:56] vandalized or stolen.

[1:01:58] >> Right. Right.

[1:02:00] >> Yep. So, I would encourage anybody who

[1:02:01] has questions, you know, or they're

[1:02:04] curious about cameras, they hear

[1:02:06] different next meeting.

[1:02:07] >> Next meeting or I mean, honestly, people

[1:02:09] have come in. We're we're open. You can

[1:02:11] come into the police department if you

[1:02:12] have a question on on, you know, what we

[1:02:14] use them for and how they work. And I

[1:02:15] think the big concern is how they're

[1:02:17] monitored. So, um, people get a lot of

[1:02:19] relief when we explain, hey, you have to

[1:02:21] put in a case number. You know, our

[1:02:22] detective monitors who puts in the case

[1:02:24] number, what it's used for, and then I

[1:02:26] monitor, you know, when the detective

[1:02:28] uses it, so that it's used for actual

[1:02:30] cases that are open. We're not just

[1:02:31] putting in plates just because we feel

[1:02:33] like it.

[1:02:34] >> Tristan Stuttler had a great post on

[1:02:36] that.

[1:02:36] >> Yes, he did. I appreciate that. Yes.

[1:02:41] >> Okay. [snorts]

[1:02:41] All right, Matt, you don't have anything

[1:02:44] else?

[1:02:45] >> No, I think I've talked

[1:02:46] >> other ways you want to save the city

[1:02:47] money.

[1:02:48] >> Well, I've got all kinds of ideas on

[1:02:50] that. That's for another [laughter]

[1:02:51] time.

[1:02:52] >> All right. Well, I I'll be at the next

[1:02:53] meeting. Can't wait. Can't wait to hear.

[1:02:58] Okay. Um, so I will just entertain a U

[1:03:04] motion to move us into executive session

[1:03:06] for the purpose of discussing

[1:03:08] confidential economic development

[1:03:10] information and for the purpose to

[1:03:12] consider the possible purchase of real

[1:03:14] estate uh for public purposes.

[1:03:18] » Second.

[1:03:20] >> Let's go ahead and do it.

[1:03:22] >> Gdone,

[1:03:23] >> yes.

[1:03:24] >> Johnston,

[1:03:24] >> yes.

[1:03:25] >> Mallister Atkins,

[1:03:26] >> yes. Street.

[1:03:27] >> Yes.

[1:03:28] >> Alanthic.

[1:03:29] >> Yes.

[1:03:29] >> Okay. No business expected to follow.

[1:03:32] Have a good night everybody.

[1:03:33] >> Mayor, can we move into the other room

[1:03:35] that way?

[1:03:49] [music]

Louisville City Council 08/18/26

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