[0:02] There we go.

[0:07] » All right. Welcome everyone to our

[0:11] August Parks and Recreation Commission

[0:13] meeting

[0:15] August 25th.

[0:18] So, I'm calling it to order.

[0:21] Did everyone get a chance to look at the

[0:23] agenda?

[0:24] >> Looks great to me.

[0:26] >> I'll make a motion to brief tonight's

[0:28] agenda. Second. All

[0:30] >> in favor?

[0:31] >> I.

[0:32] >> All right. Thank you. And our meeting

[0:36] minutes from July since Oh, wait. We had

[0:39] our travel, didn't we? We have our

[0:40] travel.

[0:41] >> Yeah, there were minutes.

[0:44] >> All right. Approval for the minutes from

[0:47] the July 28th meeting.

[0:52] » Yeah.

[0:56] » All in favor say I.

[0:58] Thank you.

[1:02] » All right. See, do we have anyone on

[1:04] Zoom today?

[1:05] >> No.

[1:06] >> Nope. And we have only one person in the

[1:10] public. You have a comment, sir?

[1:14] » Just stand up and introduce yourself and

[1:16] welcome.

[1:20] » Don't worry.

[1:22] >> Yeah.

[1:23] I got a problem with in Forest Ridge

[1:27] Park.

[1:29] I like to see it's one of two things

[1:31] happen. Either there's a gate that's

[1:34] locked every night since the bathrooms

[1:37] are

[1:38] or maybe the parks department can work

[1:41] with the police department to get

[1:43] regular patrols after the dark. There's

[1:46] been several cars that come in

[1:50] after dark usually or just before

[1:54] And of course they leave litter. It's

[1:56] there every morning.

[1:58] But the big problem I seen lately the

[2:02] bathrooms block. Some of these cars

[2:04] spend the night there.

[2:06] And so

[2:09] in the last week or so I've had to clean

[2:12] up PCs in the playground. We're near the

[2:14] playground area behind the bathroom over

[2:17] on the picnic table.

[2:19] And it's pretty disgusting. It does get

[2:21] picked up. kids are going to get in it

[2:24] maybe

[2:28] a problem. So I think either either a

[2:31] gate or

[2:34] consistent control by the pixie dick

[2:36] them out. I assume the parks are closed

[2:38] at dusk.

[2:40] >> Yeah.

[2:41] >> So there's no reason why the police

[2:43] can't move on.

[2:47] >> Thank you.

[2:53] All right, we have staff reports and

[2:54] updates. First one, Bridging Birminton

[2:58] info and request for volunteers.

[3:01] >> Well, we're going to wait.

[3:02] >> So, yeah. So, Josh Farley, uh, we'll

[3:05] speak on that and he was coming over on

[3:08] the ferry. So, when he gets here

[3:11] back there,

[3:12] >> we'll put him back on once we get to

[3:14] that point.

[3:14] >> Okay. Good.

[3:17] >> All right. The new business

[3:21] Forest Ridge Park first street parcel

[3:24] surplus proposal

[3:26] chat.

[3:27] >> Yeah.

[3:36] » All right.

[3:40] So, first off, our agenda.

[3:43] Wanted to show some pictures if you

[3:45] haven't seen them.

[3:47] >> Stuck out.

[3:51] Then before he took the leap of faith,

[3:54] >> I guess I wore the same thing last

[3:56] month.

[3:59] >> You got an outfit.

[4:00] >> Yeah,

[4:02] >> we wanted to share some some of the

[4:04] pictures. If you hadn't seen those

[4:05] pictures, they turned out really well.

[4:07] Colette was was hoping that her head

[4:10] wouldn't have been so big, but I was

[4:11] like, "Oh, it looks great. It looks like

[4:14] a selfie and a bunch of people behind

[4:16] it." That was good.

[4:18] >> That was a nice day.

[4:20] >> Okay. And Brett, you can see the slides,

[4:22] correct?

[4:25] >> Yes, I can see them.

[4:26] >> Okay, perfect. Okay, so as part of the

[4:30] uh the tour that we took, the very last

[4:32] spot, uh we were obviously up at Forest

[4:34] Ridge Park. And so uh what we wanted to

[4:38] bring after um getting some head nods

[4:41] from commission that yes you wanted to

[4:43] have the discussion at this meeting was

[4:46] to look at um surplusing

[4:49] a small portion of the park. So,

[4:52] separate out a parcel on First Street.

[4:56] And as you can see on this, uh, this is

[5:00] the outline for Forest Ridge here, which

[5:03] also includes this piece. Um, again,

[5:06] just to kind of recap,

[5:08] um, the conversation,

[5:11] um, really started from a potential

[5:14] developer that's looking at the adjacent

[5:17] property for development and was looking

[5:20] for an easement for emergency access and

[5:24] which could also um, change the type of

[5:28] use that they're looking at for that

[5:29] site. And so in evaluating the property,

[5:32] the type of use that we have now, uh the

[5:36] adjacent property here, which is

[5:39] formerly Renaissance High School, which

[5:41] is moving up to View Ridge, uh so

[5:44] they'll be taking up about half of the

[5:47] View Ridge school site. Uh they seem to

[5:51] be the predominant user. At lunchtime or

[5:53] breaks, they would be outside. We have a

[5:55] couple tables there, a garbage can, but

[5:58] really not much else. it's not really

[6:00] tied to or connected to the main part of

[6:02] the park. And so what we would be

[6:05] looking at doing is surplusing this uh

[6:08] listing it for sale um and doing having

[6:12] bids come in and we would probably set a

[6:15] minimum bid for the project for the site

[6:18] um and then being able to work with

[6:20] council to have those funds go back into

[6:24] future development at Forest Ridge Park.

[6:27] Um, typically we don't look to surplus

[6:30] property um because once it's gone, it's

[6:34] gone. Uh, but in evaluating this site,

[6:37] it's it's not a portion of the park that

[6:40] that's really well utilized um by the

[6:45] community and um isn't really tied into

[6:48] the rest of the park. Um some another

[6:51] benefit to the sale of this is it would

[6:53] put it I know it's a small parcel but it

[6:55] puts it back on the tax role as well. Um

[6:58] so it would not um be a city asset at

[7:02] that point. So uh I've also listed here

[7:06] the procedures um that are listed within

[7:09] our code. Uh the parks board um is being

[7:14] consulted. Uh so we count last month

[7:17] having the conversation there and having

[7:19] a conversation here as working with the

[7:22] parks board um providing you all the

[7:24] details concerning the proposed sale.

[7:28] Uh the parks board shall prepare an

[7:30] advisory report and submit it to city

[7:32] council and the mayor. And that's

[7:34] definitely something that we as staff

[7:36] would be happy to work with you on. Um,

[7:38] and what I would probably look for is uh

[7:42] as part of this agenda item, maybe a

[7:44] motion for uh Kathy to work with staff

[7:48] to develop um and prepare the advisory

[7:52] report to be presented to council and

[7:55] the mayor. So that would most likely

[7:57] happen at a study session uh before it

[8:01] would go to the public hearing. So with

[8:04] this uh with a surplusing uh park

[8:07] property, it would require a minimum of

[8:10] two uh public hearings. So that would be

[8:12] a two separate meetings. Um, and then

[8:15] council maybe after the first, and

[8:18] Brett,

[8:19] uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but maybe

[8:21] after the first they could decide if at

[8:23] the second uh, if there's not a lot of

[8:25] response or any response that may be at

[8:29] the same meeting as a second hearing,

[8:30] they could uh, vote on it or it may have

[8:33] to go to a third uh, meeting. So, there

[8:36] would be a series of opportunities for

[8:38] the public to to speak out on this uh,

[8:40] potential sale of the property.

[8:43] Um, so notes, uh, if there is a proposed

[8:47] sale, if that's what we're looking at

[8:49] doing, um, the, uh, council would

[8:53] evaluate the report that's provided to

[8:56] them by, by the commission,

[8:59] um, and then develop findings and

[9:01] conclusions to support declaring this as

[9:04] surplus and, um, selling the property.

[9:08] uh with that um a unanimous vote would

[9:11] need to uh take place of the council and

[9:15] I believe that's part of the parks

[9:17] protection act that went into place

[9:19] through a citizen vote um gosh back I

[9:22] think in the 70s sometime

[9:25] um

[9:26] uh would require any park parcel to be a

[9:30] full unanimous vote by the council.

[9:33] Um, so

[9:36] in absence of that, if there wasn't a

[9:37] unanimous unanimous vote, if we wanted

[9:39] to move forward, it could go to the

[9:41] public for a vote. Um,

[9:45] which would mean obviously the cost of

[9:47] putting it on a ballot and that process.

[9:50] Um, so that would be something if we

[9:52] didn't get a full council um, unanimous

[9:56] vote, we may want to bring it back and

[9:58] discuss and see what we want to do

[9:59] moving forward if that's a process we

[10:02] want to seek out or not. Um, so anything

[10:06] short of that, Brett, do you have

[10:07] anything you wanted to add or correct?

[10:10] No, I just wanted to clarify for for a

[10:13] uh the the commission will have to have

[10:17] to, you know, take a final approval vote

[10:20] on any on any advisory report before

[10:22] it's

[10:24] sent off. So,

[10:26] >> okay. So what we would be looking at is

[10:28] maybe at this meeting um we get the

[10:31] commission if the commission so chooses

[10:33] to um gives us the go ahead to move

[10:36] forward and then we would provide that

[10:39] report at the next meeting for your

[10:40] review.

[10:41] >> Right. I think that's typically how it goes.

[10:44] >> Okay.

[10:47] » Has there been any talk about like how

[10:48] much money we think this parcel is

[10:50] worth?

[10:52] We've talked about it, but we haven't we

[10:55] don't know a number. Um, and that's

[10:57] something that during the process I

[10:58] would want to find out is what do we

[11:00] think the parcels worth? It's and which

[11:02] is tough because

[11:04] >> Yeah. The parcel value may be different

[11:07] than the value to the developer.

[11:09] >> Of course.

[11:09] >> Yeah.

[11:10] >> Of course.

[11:11] and and final parcel values are

[11:14] something that city council discuss

[11:16] discusses in executive sessions so that

[11:18] it's not necessarily public before any

[11:21] um decision is made so that it you know

[11:24] isn't in the public record for anybody

[11:26] to take advantage of. So

[11:28] >> Right. And and on that Brett is it

[11:31] typically a sealed bid

[11:35] when it comes to property sales?

[11:39] um they don't necessarily have to go to

[11:41] bid. You can directly negotiate things,

[11:44] but again the council the council sets

[11:47] their um you know prices that they're

[11:50] willing to accept in an executive

[11:52] session. They discuss that so that it's

[11:54] not you know you don't want to be

[11:56] negotiating against yourself I guess in

[11:58] a public meeting.

[11:59] >> Exactly. Don't want to Yeah. You don't

[12:00] want to put something out publicly and

[12:02] then try to negotiate something else.

[12:06] >> Totally get that. Okay. Any other

[12:09] questions?

[12:17] » I'm I am um very encouraged to hear your

[12:22] reference to perhaps a private developer

[12:24] for that whole piece of property. I'm

[12:27] delighted with that. I'll bet you the

[12:29] school district is too many.

[12:31] >> Yes. So um and while that might change

[12:36] the nature of the well I mean being for

[12:40] emergency vehicles and everything I

[12:42] think the safety things that it it

[12:45] eventually provides will be very good.

[12:50] Well, living next to the park, I can I

[12:52] can also vouch for the inactivity from

[12:56] the public really coming in and using

[12:59] it. No one thinks to drive down here and

[13:01] they can park because there is parking.

[13:04] >> It's mostly utilized by the high school

[13:07] there.

[13:08] >> Yeah.

[13:08] >> Which is moving.

[13:09] So,

[13:11] >> and who knows what this district's going

[13:13] to that property.

[13:16] >> You think the city has trouble letting

[13:18] go of property? You ought to talk to the

[13:20] school district about it.

[13:24] >> They will never go back.

[13:30] » Yeah, I have no concerns with this

[13:32] either. I'm ready to make a motion if my

[13:36] committee is unless anyone has any other

[13:39] questions,

[13:41] concerns about this. Yeah, I'll I'll uh

[13:43] make a motion for uh the parks board uh

[13:46] namely the vice chair currently to um

[13:50] work with the parks and recreation uh

[13:52] office to uh prepare an advisory report

[13:56] uh for city council and the mayor on the

[13:58] uh surplus of this first street parcel

[14:00] that we're talking about tonight.

[14:03] >> Second.

[14:05] >> All in favor?

[14:10] to move it forward unanimously. Awesome.

[14:12] When you need a unanimous vote,

[14:15] >> good practice, right?

[14:16] >> Yeah.

[14:19] >> Okay.

[14:20] >> Nothing else we need from Brett. Any

[14:22] more questions for him?

[14:24] >> Great. Hopefully this progresses as we

[14:26] want it. Just

[14:27] >> Thank you, Brett.

[14:29] >> He'll stick around though just for fun.

[14:31] >> Yeah, I'll stick I'll stick around for

[14:32] the whole thing. But thank you.

[14:35] All right, we're ready to move on to B,

[14:39] the common street for homelessness

[14:41] response property management. I love

[14:43] that you send that. It's it's nice to

[14:45] see that

[14:48] >> and this is the reason why Brett's

[14:49] sticking around.

[14:55] » Good segue.

[14:56] >> You know, uh I'm going to start off with

[14:58] this slide. This is just kind of our

[15:00] monthly update and then I'm going to go

[15:02] ahead. The next slide is going to give

[15:04] us kind of where we're at year to date.

[15:06] If you guys recall, uh last meeting uh I

[15:09] spoke about uh in a in a plan weekly

[15:12] average that we're we're about 11 11 12

[15:16] or right in between there. That's a pretty good figure. Uh you're

[15:21] looking at 70 site visits in a month. I

[15:23] mean that's that's making a lot of

[15:25] contact.

[15:25] >> That's a lot of contact.

[15:27] >> Um 41 of them are meaningful

[15:29] connections, which is great. And then uh

[15:32] having 24 people that were connected to

[15:34] services within month all good things

[15:37] and uh seven of them have already uh

[15:39] entered shelter or some other form of

[15:42] housing. So uh good stuff there.

[15:46] >> Can I just ask what? Sorry. Uh is there a database being maintained

[15:53] of their content and who the people are?

[15:56] Sorry that I

[15:58] >> that is through more common streets and

[16:00] not within the city or parks.

[16:03] >> I'm sorry.

[16:04] >> How are you defining in full

[16:06] connections? What does that mean?

[16:07] >> People who are looking to engage and and

[16:12] willing to take resources and so

[16:16] >> um even though we there's 70 site

[16:19] visits, there's people that are out

[16:20] there saying, "Hey, we don't we don't

[16:22] want any assistance or anything else."

[16:23] making that meaningful connection means

[16:25] hey we're actively engaged in

[16:27] conversation

[16:29] um and we're looking to connect them

[16:31] into services um and so you can see the

[16:34] progression uh within this uh

[16:39] within the slide and so as we move on to

[16:44] uh

[16:45] since streets and and the city has uh

[16:50] been in partnership together

[16:52] some amazing numbers at over 3,000

[16:54] people. Uh here's our weekly uh

[16:59] in a in a plan weekly average. Like I

[17:01] stated, we're we're right there at 11

[17:03] p.m. Um so a lot of good stuff uh

[17:08] happening. Uh

[17:11] they are incredible benefit to uh

[17:16] >> two parts. I will speak on that.

[17:18] >> Brian, I had a question. the the uh the

[17:20] 3265 number of your site business is

[17:22] that individual people or could that's a

[17:24] potential where they contacted the same

[17:26] person multiple times.

[17:28] >> So generally those are just individual

[17:30] reports and sites and uh contacts.

[17:34] >> Although if there's a group of them

[17:36] together that would be one site visit I

[17:39] >> correct. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So so

[17:42] potentially there's a lot more than just

[17:45] that number of

[17:46] >> Yeah. site visit may contain two, three,

[17:50] four different camps.

[17:52] >> Sure.

[17:54] >> Um, with that I the next slide is some

[17:58] of the things that some topics and

[18:00] locations that we spoke about uh within

[18:03] this last month's meeting. As you could

[18:05] see,

[18:06] they're all bars. Um, and so with that,

[18:10] I wanted to follow up with a couple of

[18:12] things. Um, for drone trails, it was

[18:14] evaluated on 84. It was posted on 86. We

[18:18] had clean up on 811.

[18:21] We also just had another cleanup last

[18:23] Friday uh starting at 1:00. Uh that was

[18:26] also post or evaluated, posted, and

[18:29] cleaned up. So, this is ongoing and

[18:32] you'll see that in next month's meeting

[18:35] uh the the last Friday's uh cleanup. But

[18:39] I just want to kind of throw it out

[18:40] there. This is this is ongoing. This

[18:42] isn't a one and done. This is this is

[18:45] constant within the buck. So that's kind of what I wanted to

[18:49] highlight here. Does city council get

[18:52] briefed on this and the mayor? Do they

[18:54] see this commission at all?

[18:58] I'm not sure exactly the connection

[19:02] does a either

[19:05] >> I know they're

[19:06] >> twice a year or quarterly they go to council and provide

[19:11] presentation

[19:12] >> and I've seen I've seen them present at

[19:15] individual council

[19:17] >> district meetings too. So

[19:19] >> so they're they're out there.

[19:22] >> Absolutely.

[19:22] >> Yeah. and we've occasionally tied them

[19:25] to our one of our committees that we're

[19:28] involved with with the city council. So,

[19:30] I'm sure Common Street will be involved

[19:32] with our new committee that we're on,

[19:35] the public safety and parks committee.

[19:38] We were on the finance, investment,

[19:40] parks and parking committee.

[19:42] >> We got moved

[19:45] >> uh last two months ago. Yeah.

[19:48] >> Yeah. So because common streets is so

[19:50] tied to public safety, um it'll be a

[19:52] topic of discussion and there's three

[19:54] council members on each committee.

[19:56] >> Yeah.

[19:56] >> So we can't have a quorum, but we have

[19:58] three three of the council members are

[20:00] hearing information more than just the

[20:02] general and then they typically will

[20:05] report that

[20:06] >> in addition to the presentations to the

[20:08] general council.

[20:13] » Any other questions on those?

[20:15] >> No more questions. I'm finding that they

[20:17] are a benefit to our parks. We've spoken

[20:20] with them in Forest Bridge Park and

[20:24] they've been such a benefit. Really

[20:27] outstanding people that are coming in

[20:29] and meeting with the unhoused or you

[20:32] know whatever and they're they're so

[20:35] respectful to them and they have all

[20:37] these options. So, it is a blessing to

[20:39] have them come in and assist with you.

[20:44] >> Yes. and with and with with so many

[20:48] resources available because we've got a concentration of resources.

[20:54] Yes. So, let's get the people to that

[20:57] and

[20:58] >> because some don't know.

[21:00] >> Yes. Exactly.

[21:01] >> We just are

[21:02] >> trying to survive

[21:04] >> and particip in the resource.

[21:07] >> Exactly.

[21:09] >> Having some experts come in and be that

[21:11] first line.

[21:12] >> Yeah.

[21:12] >> Is great for us.

[21:13] >> Right. Right.

[21:15] >> Do you know if there's any like followup

[21:17] after they've gotten in touch with the

[21:19] services

[21:21] working?

[21:25] » I think they

[21:28] that's

[21:31] >> all right. If no more comments,

[21:36] » Alex, you're up next. The parks usage

[21:38] and community suggestion outreach. I'm

[21:40] excited to hear what you found.

[21:42] >> Yeah. Some of it's not news.

[21:45] >> Yes.

[21:46] >> Um, so I did a survey with some blind

[21:49] clients. So basically over two

[21:51] consecutive Sundays, just about an hour

[21:53] is like from when they open at 11 to

[21:55] about noon because it's just really busy

[21:58] in the lobby there um during that time

[22:00] and then it kind of trips off. So I got

[22:02] about like 39 people like did 39 people

[22:05] >> and I asked them two questions. Um, I

[22:07] had a little survey and passed out 10 to

[22:10] hour. Sometimes I would like interview

[22:11] them if it worked out better. Um, but

[22:14] the two questions were how do you use

[22:16] the parks and what do you want to see

[22:17] from the parks or what do you want to be

[22:19] improved? Next slide.

[22:22] So parks usage. The most common things

[22:24] are let's say at the top um basically

[22:27] exercise, walking, hiking, enjoying

[22:29] nature, um, walking a dog or other

[22:31] animals. I did see a cat at Blueberry

[22:34] the other day. So it's not just dogs.

[22:37] >> They're there on a leash.

[22:39] >> Yeah.

[22:40] It's a very chilled cat. Um, and then

[22:43] taking kids to play and um, I don't

[22:46] remember what enjoyed spending time in

[22:48] the park. I'm not sure that one got cut

[22:50] off, but some of the less common ones

[22:52] that people wrote were, you know,

[22:53] parties, events, um, being by the water,

[22:56] hobbies, going for picnics, riding their

[22:59] bike. Someone said camping, but I think

[23:01] they misunderstood when I was talking

[23:02] about city parks. I think we're talking

[23:04] about state parks.

[23:06] >> Yeah.

[23:06] >> Um, and then just exploration sports.

[23:08] and using the bathroom.

[23:12] And these are some of the broader themes

[23:14] um that I came up with for suggestions

[23:16] for improvement. The main one was the

[23:19] bathrooms, which I'll go into in the

[23:20] next few slides, and then parks in

[23:22] general, some inclusion kind of related

[23:24] things, various parks, amenities,

[23:27] activities, dogs and dog parks, park

[23:29] rules, uh the website, and in opposition

[23:32] to inclusion, exclusion.

[23:34] So, next slide.

[23:37] So, bathrooms,

[23:39] uh, mainly the first one, improved

[23:41] maintenance and cleanliness of

[23:42] bathrooms. I agree with that one. I'm

[23:44] seeing some nastiness.

[23:46] Um, bathrooms open year round. I thought

[23:48] that they were, but maybe some of them

[23:51] are not or they misunderstood.

[23:52] >> Yeah, some dep if if we get below

[23:55] freezing, we may shut some of them down.

[23:58] >> U, but otherwise they're most all of

[24:00] them are open year round. Right, Brian?

[24:03] >> Right. It's just the hour.

[24:04] >> Yeah. Yeah.

[24:05] >> Yeah. And I don't know if this was like

[24:07] a a countywide poll or more of a city

[24:10] poll.

[24:10] >> I was trying to focus it on the city,

[24:12] but some people may have misunderstood

[24:13] >> because within the county they close

[24:15] their restaurants in the city. We try

[24:17] not to. So unless it's weather

[24:22] the county closes their restrooms like

[24:24] for this

[24:26] >> I know a lot of places that do.

[24:28] >> Yeah. Okay.

[24:29] >> They winterize their restrooms.

[24:31] >> Okay. I understand.

[24:34] Well, then it's uh providing bathrooms

[24:36] of parks, which I think there might be a

[24:37] few that don't have some. And then

[24:39] providing more stalls. I agree with that

[24:41] one, especially women's bathrooms.

[24:44] And then uh parks in general, having

[24:46] more parks and open spaces. Uh improved

[24:48] maintenance and cleanliness of parks.

[24:50] The dog food is on another one. Um more

[24:53] nature, wilderness trails, improved

[24:55] security at parks, longer hours. I think

[24:58] that's mainly outside of summertime. Um,

[25:01] and then open a new disc golf course,

[25:03] which that's not news. You heard that

[25:05] from the disc golf people. Um, and then

[25:07] as for inclusion, more access for those

[25:10] with disabilities, um, like with

[25:12] wheelchairs and that kind of thing.

[25:14] Allowing homeless into the park,

[25:16] inclusive of new people. I'm not sure

[25:18] exactly what they meant by that one, but

[25:20] I include it anyway. And then improved

[25:21] sidewalks. There are a few parts that

[25:24] need that a lot. All right, next slide.

[25:29] And then for amenities, so some of the

[25:31] sub themes that I had were shelter and

[25:33] resting spots, boards, water fountains,

[25:36] sanitation, and then just some other. So

[25:38] as for shelter and resting spots, having

[25:40] more tables, benches, and chairs, as

[25:42] well as covered in seating, shaded

[25:44] seating areas, which I have to agree

[25:46] with that, there's not enough places to

[25:47] sit and if there are, it's bright out in

[25:49] the sun.

[25:51] And then as for sports, a lot of them

[25:53] were about basketball. So

[25:54] >> yeah. No, I like that. That's great.

[25:56] >> People want to play basketball. So,

[25:58] providing basketballs, full court

[26:00] basketball courts, and a three-point

[26:02] line. Um, outdoor fitness stations.

[26:05] There's support for the little fitness

[26:07] station.

[26:09] >> One person said, "Do not remove the

[26:10] volleyball pip." They wanted that one.

[26:13] >> Then asked for water fountains,

[26:15] providing water fountains and then water

[26:16] bottle refill stations. I agree with

[26:19] that, too. I always carry my water

[26:21] bottle.

[26:22] Then sanitation.

[26:25] Have a sanitation station. I'm not sure.

[26:28] I tried looking that up and I don't know

[26:29] what that means.

[26:30] >> Yeah,

[26:31] >> maybe somebody does. But

[26:32] >> yeah, so it's basically just um so they

[26:34] have them at like special events and

[26:36] they're typically modular

[26:38] >> and it's essentially um hand washing

[26:42] station.

[26:42] >> Yeah,

[26:45] >> I think um that kind of goes along with

[26:46] the bathroom part, too.

[26:49] >> And then less trash. And then providing

[26:51] trash bins, which I think if you provide

[26:53] more trash bins, you'll get less trash.

[26:56] And then a smoking area, which I

[26:58] disagree with. I don't think it's okay.

[27:01] Nobody should.

[27:04] >> Yeah, there's not a city.

[27:05] >> Yeah.

[27:06] >> And, uh, the last few ones for the

[27:08] amenities part is providing barbecue

[27:10] grills, more toddler friendly areas or

[27:13] activities, um, and then a place to walk

[27:15] by.

[27:17] Cool.

[27:17] >> So, just a question like on suggestions

[27:19] for improvements, those are basically

[27:21] the number and you didn't really give

[27:23] them a checklist. It was just verbal.

[27:26] >> Yeah, they just wrote it down.

[27:27] >> Okay. So, two people said barbecue

[27:30] guards. Okay. Yeah. As opposed to a

[27:32] checklist. Okay.

[27:33] >> I just made it a little bit easier for

[27:35] you.

[27:35] >> Yep. That's for sure.

[27:38] >> Um then some other ones for activities

[27:41] just broadly more activities. No other

[27:43] explanation than that. More activities

[27:46] for children outside of school, more

[27:48] outdoor activities and sports. Uh

[27:50] community activities and then activities

[27:52] for adults. So some of those are very

[27:54] broad. Do what you want. And then we go

[27:57] into the dogs and the dog park. So

[27:59] cleaning up the dog poop, providing

[28:01] doggy bags. So I think you provide the

[28:03] doggy bags. That will encourage people

[28:05] to clean up the poop more. Uh keeping

[28:07] dogs on leashes for sure. Then we go to

[28:10] the dog carts. Somebody wanted more um

[28:13] enrichment at the dog carts like logs to

[28:16] climb on, things like that.

[28:19] um generally having more dog parks,

[28:21] providing a fence, dog park. Some of

[28:23] these could be like an indication that

[28:26] we just need more advertising on park um

[28:28] amenities.

[28:31] So, next slide and then this is the last

[28:33] one. So, somebody wanted to see like the

[28:36] dos and the don'ts, like what you can

[28:37] do, what you shouldn't do with the

[28:39] parks. Uh someone else wanted the parks

[28:42] website to be kept updated. And then the

[28:44] last one, um, removing homeless or

[28:46] squatters from parking lots. So, I don't

[28:49] know which specific one they were

[28:51] thinking of, but that was a suggestion

[28:52] somebody had. So, that's, uh, see my

[28:57] little slideshow.

[28:59] >> Thanks for doing that.

[29:02] >> Yeah.

[29:06] Can you go back

[29:09] with

[29:11] that? I forget

[29:14] what you're looking for. It was around.

[29:17] So

[29:20] >> there was a

[29:23] movie.

[29:25] >> No, I I'll get I'll get around to it

[29:28] again. Sorry. Okay.

[29:35] See what it was, Joe, that you wanted to

[29:37] comment.

[29:38] >> Oh, I know what it was. So, where was

[29:40] the disc golf? Where was the disc golf?

[29:44] Just have a moment of clarity.

[29:46] >> More disc golf courses.

[29:47] >> We could have a disc golf.

[29:51] >> That would be a nice It would be a nice

[29:53] joint use.

[29:55] >> You don't think one would interfere with

[29:57] the other? Half of the disc golfers out

[30:00] there have their dogs out there anyway.

[30:01] You know why? Why not?

[30:03] >> You just imagine the dogs grabbing

[30:05] somebody else's disc and running off of

[30:07] it.

[30:07] >> Well, mine would. Mine wouldn't. And

[30:09] mine would be the worst worst behavior.

[30:14] So,

[30:14] >> well, aren't there dogs that go for

[30:16] discs all the time? It depends on Yeah.

[30:19] it depends on what the owner does

[30:22] with this golf

[30:25] comments or suggestions or replies.

[30:28] Thanks, Alex.

[30:29] >> Thank you, Alex.

[30:30] >> Appreciate you going and doing that.

[30:32] >> Yeah, because I think it does kind of it

[30:34] does hit on on that that concern and

[30:37] council saw another survey recently

[30:40] where I think some of the concern is the

[30:42] access to our general surveys and not

[30:44] everybody can access them. So doing

[30:47] things like that are extremely helpful

[30:48] to get

[30:50] >> some you never know what you're gonna

[30:51] get from.

[30:52] >> Um but yeah, I think a lot of it was

[30:54] actually in line with some of the other

[30:56] information that we found out. So

[30:59] >> these were people that were not able to

[31:02] participate in any of the surveys or

[31:05] just

[31:06] >> just a different venue.

[31:07] >> Yeah. Yeah.

[31:09] >> Yeah. No idea if there's a circle.

[31:12] >> So I think we came.

[31:16] >> Yeah.

[31:16] >> Are they?

[31:17] >> Yeah. I actually volunteered with the

[31:21] » That's nice to hear.

[31:25] >> It looks really good.

[31:26] >> Oh, good.

[31:27] >> All right.

[31:29] >> You ready to move on to the Kitsapat

[31:31] Peninsula staff dog park tour?

[31:35] >> Ryan and Tim. So, uh, Josh should be

[31:39] joining us any moment and so I'll kind

[31:42] of stop when he gets here and then we

[31:44] can we can proceed along.

[31:46] >> So, uh, in preparation for our dog park

[31:50] grant that we received and development

[31:52] of the dog park at Stephson Canyon, we

[31:55] decided that we would go on a tour. So,

[31:58] we picked two a day, a morning, two

[32:01] separate weeks um in the past month um

[32:04] and hit six different dog parks in

[32:07] Kitapat Peninsula. Um so,

[32:10] very fun. Uh probably one of the most

[32:12] common comments we got and looks was,

[32:14] "Why don't you guys have a dog with

[32:16] you?"

[32:16] >> Yeah.

[32:21] » Four people walk in. One's got a

[32:23] clipboard.

[32:24] >> Rest of us just look like thugs. And

[32:28] We have no dog.

[32:29] >> Yeah.

[32:30] >> So,

[32:31] >> we got there.

[32:32] >> We became a target quickly.

[32:35] >> Uh but no, it was it was good. So, all

[32:37] I'm going to run through all six of

[32:39] them. Um we kind of Colette kind of laid

[32:42] out and Colette was sorry she's not

[32:43] here. She's up in Alaska um on vacation

[32:46] back home. So, um she'll be back with us

[32:49] later this week. Yeah. So, she kind of

[32:51] provided me uh just some talking points

[32:53] as well um that are very similar for

[32:56] each of the dog parks. I'll just kind of

[32:58] walk through them uh as we have each

[33:00] slide. So, Rotary Bark Park in Gig

[33:02] Harbor. Has anybody been to that?

[33:04] >> No.

[33:05] >> It was probably one of our favorite

[33:06] ones. Um the off leash area is 15 acres

[33:10] in size and it's a total of 97 acres.

[33:14] Um, and it's part of the U Penet park

[33:19] district.

[33:20] >> That's right.

[33:22] >> Penet

[33:24] district out there.

[33:26] >> Yeah.

[33:28] >> Of course.

[33:30] >> Okay. Well,

[33:31] >> so one thing about this park is the

[33:35] access to the dog park from the parking

[33:37] lot. It's about a quarter of a mile from

[33:39] the trail head, so it was quite a

[33:40] distance for us to to get out there.

[33:42] Yeah.

[33:43] >> Um, so you you park next to a fire

[33:46] station and then you walk your way out

[33:48] to where where the dog park is actually

[33:51] at. Uh, it's 5 foot galvanized wire mesh

[33:55] fencing, uh, double gated bolin entry.

[33:58] Everything we saw if everybody familiar

[34:01] with what a double gated bullpin entry

[34:03] is. So essentially, you'd walk in the

[34:05] first gate, unleash, lock the gate or

[34:08] shut the gate, un unhook your dog, and

[34:11] then let him into the main part, and

[34:12] then shut that secondary gate. Just kind

[34:15] of a transition area. Um,

[34:19] >> yeah. So, in this park, there's over a

[34:22] mile of fenced off leash trails, um, and

[34:25] an open meadow area. So on the bottom

[34:28] right corner, you can kind of see that

[34:30] open meadow space, but most of the off

[34:33] leash area was actually trail systems.

[34:35] And that that's something we did find

[34:37] that we hadn't really thought about

[34:39] >> for for Stephenson Canyon is looking at

[34:42] some of those upper trails that we have

[34:44] and seeing what we could do to

[34:46] incorporate that into the dog park just

[34:48] to kind of create a little bit of

[34:49] different Yeah. Just to create a little

[34:52] bit of different scenery. And they have

[34:54] the opportunity for that stuff.

[34:56] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You sure could. There

[34:58] are natural trails all the way through

[35:00] there. Sure. So, you know,

[35:02] >> uh, so water and restrooms. So, they

[35:05] have portable restrooms at the very at

[35:07] the parking lot. So, a quarter mile from

[35:10] where you you end up going into the dog

[35:12] park at. Um, and there's a water spot at

[35:15] that same area at the trail head. Um and

[35:19] but what they do require is for

[35:23] individuals to carry the water um jugs

[35:27] to the dog park.

[35:28] >> Yeah.

[35:29] >> And so you kind of see on the bottom uh

[35:32] left hand or upper right hand corner is where the filling station is and then

[35:37] people transport them and then obviously

[35:39] when they leave they'll put them back

[35:40] over here, fill them up and then they're

[35:43] ready for somebody else. So that

[35:45] >> Yeah. So that's Yeah. And that's nice.

[35:47] That's something that, you know, I

[35:49] hadn't seen and and we it is common in

[35:52] some of the other areas that we did go

[35:54] and look at.

[35:55] >> So, they do have a shade structure as

[35:57] you can see there uh kiosk with

[36:00] information

[36:01] um andformational signage rules. Uh

[36:04] there's no separate small dog area at

[36:06] this park and I think maybe because it

[36:08] has trailed areas, it's kind of a

[36:10] natural separation as well. Uh there's

[36:13] no agility area.

[36:15] um observations that we we came up with.

[36:18] Um it was a wellused park site. We were

[36:20] here probably about 10 o'clock on a when

[36:23] Tuesday Wednesday morning. Uh so middle

[36:26] of the week. Uh still a good amount of

[36:28] people there. Uh users seem to value the

[36:31] combination of the wooded trails and

[36:33] open areas. Uh, so there were definitely

[36:35] different gathering spots or people that

[36:37] we noticed would walk the trail system

[36:40] and then end up in the in the play

[36:42] essentially play area for the dogs. So

[36:45] >> So

[36:47] how did you how did you like the fence?

[36:52] » I liked it a lot. It's one of the better

[36:54] princess that we came across. uh really

[36:56] >> comparatively there'll be another slide

[36:58] in there that they have a different

[36:59] option that

[37:03] >> that we experienced.

[37:04] >> Yeah. What we did find was that the

[37:06] bullpin entry areas tend to be a

[37:09] different type of fence.

[37:10] >> Oh, of course.

[37:11] >> But then obviously this type of fencing

[37:14] that we see here is quite a bit of cost

[37:16] savings. Well, and what it also does is

[37:19] it it provides a barrier for dogs as

[37:22] they're moving along. So, they just

[37:24] don't go that way.

[37:25] >> So, the whole property

[37:27] >> with that

[37:28] >> the whole uh the whole 15 acres of the

[37:31] dog park is

[37:32] >> Yeah. It's big area.

[37:34] >> And what we also found too is that

[37:36] within that uh letting the natural

[37:39] vegetation on the outside of that grow

[37:41] up.

[37:42] >> Yes.

[37:42] >> They they provided that visual barrier

[37:44] for the dogs too. So it's almost I know

[37:47] it's seamless that they trail.

[37:52] » Yeah. So that's Rotary Bark Park.

[37:54] >> How long has it been there?

[37:56] >> Do you know?

[37:58] >> No, I I don't know.

[37:59] >> I don't know either.

[38:00] >> Yeah.

[38:02] Maybe if we can zoom in on the

[38:04] sign. Yeah. We could probably start.

[38:06] >> Yeah. I'm not sure how long it's been

[38:08] there.

[38:09] >> Um Yeah. So Josh, are you ready?

[38:15] I've never been this ready in my life.

[38:19] >> Have you ever followed a dog park

[38:21] conversation?

[38:25] » I'll be ready for you.

[38:26] >> We keep it up for you.

[38:32] » Pull up.

[38:33] >> Yeah. Wherever.

[38:34] >> Let me go back to your side.

[38:38] >> Nice to see some familiar faces.

[38:41] >> Welcome to the parks and wreck

[38:43] commission. Oh, cool.

[38:44] >> Friends meeting.

[38:45] >> I'm glad to be here.

[38:47] >> Yeah. Thank you for what you do first

[38:49] and foremost. As many of you know, I've

[38:52] lived in Breton a long time uh for 20

[38:54] years now and um you know uh the parks

[38:58] commission were as a concept reporter

[39:01] always some of my favorite meetings to

[39:02] cover. I just think I love parks and I

[39:05] love the work that you do and and why

[39:07] you do it. Um so it's really important

[39:09] to me just as a resident of Bremer.

[39:11] >> Thank you. Um, so yeah, you can see

[39:15] here, uh, I don't know if any of you

[39:16] have attended our previous events.

[39:18] Bridging Breton was something that I

[39:20] started, uh, in 2018.

[39:24] Was kind of a cool coinciding with the city's 100th anniversary centennial

[39:28] of the Manette annexation. Literally was

[39:32] cool thing to dig into. I went through

[39:34] the entire archive of the Breton news

[39:36] which was the paper of that time paper

[39:38] record and um just fascinating why the

[39:41] Manette needed water and and there was a

[39:43] ferry but um called the pioneer that ran

[39:46] between Manette and Breton East and

[39:48] Breton you know Heron

[39:50] >> Manette Peninsula and downtown and the

[39:52] cars drove off at sometimes and that was

[39:55] not a good thing for obvious reasons.

[39:57] Yeah. So, um they incorporated and 12

[40:00] years later a bridge was built, the

[40:01] first bridge and then in 1958 a second

[40:04] bridge went uh at the Port Washington

[40:06] Narrows uh otherwise we know as the

[40:08] Warren Avenue Bridge

[40:10] >> were they both state bridges at that

[40:13] time when they first went in.

[40:15] >> Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah,

[40:16] >> the Manette Bridge may not have been

[40:18] Manette Bridge was kind of a the history

[40:20] around it was kind of cool because it's

[40:21] like uh it uh there was a really active

[40:24] club in that they may have heard of

[40:26] called uh in in Manette um the East

[40:28] Birmingham and movement club and they

[40:30] actually organized a lot of it and they

[40:32] sold bonds for the bridge until the

[40:34] state paid it off. So people actually

[40:36] paid for bonds. It was a quarter to get

[40:38] across the original bridge. A quarter,

[40:41] which was a lot of money at the time in

[40:43] 1930. You know, a quarter was a lot of

[40:45] money, but it's because the ferry

[40:47] compared to the ferry. It was this was

[40:49] actually ideal. People could get back

[40:51] and forth and and the state paid it off.

[40:54] But then when it the state built the

[40:57] bridge in 58, they toled the bridge

[41:00] again. Some of you might notice that

[41:01] they actually put tolls back on Limonet

[41:03] Bridge for a few years while to make

[41:06] sure people couldn't cheat the toll.

[41:08] >> Yeah, that's kind of cool. But

[41:09] >> yeah, The the cool thing about um

[41:12] Bridging Grimmerson and why I started

[41:14] this was because those bridges of course

[41:16] were ser, you know, they were built for

[41:18] cars, but they serendipitously created a

[41:21] bridge loop that has parks. Our our

[41:25] flagship park of Breton, the Evergreen

[41:27] Rotary Park. others on this side,

[41:29] Sheridan, where we're sitting right here, East Park, uh the Whitey

[41:33] Dong viewscape in Manette. And of

[41:36] course, when the state built the new

[41:37] bridge, um a former council member, Adam

[41:39] Brockus, um helped to advocate for

[41:42] having a proper divider between the

[41:44] traffic and it created really a

[41:45] prominade. And in my mind, that was like

[41:48] an opening of well, why don't we have

[41:49] this on the other bridge, too? And why

[41:51] don't we have 10 foot sidewalks all the

[41:53] way between them because so many people

[41:55] use this this great this great pathway.

[41:58] And um fast forward to uh I think it was

[42:00] senator then senator Emily Randall at

[42:02] the state level got an appropriation in

[42:05] the budget and next year I think

[42:07] construction hopefully will begin on

[42:10] expanding the Warren Avenue bridge to a

[42:12] much wider pedestrian path. So, there

[42:15] will still be work to do, but this is

[42:17] the vision is to just create an active

[42:21] recreation site, if you will, um of a of

[42:24] a three-mile walking loop that can be

[42:27] accessed by as many people and all walks

[42:29] of life at all accessibility levels

[42:32] possible, as well lit. Um I just I

[42:35] believe that um cities have have this

[42:37] and bridging Breton is kind of my love

[42:40] letter to this vision and that I would

[42:42] love to I hope that we can achieve um

[42:45] maybe in the not too distant future. Um

[42:48] and so we have three big events and we

[42:50] would love to have anyone from the parks

[42:52] commission who would like to volunteer.

[42:54] Um we have I will send you a website. Um

[42:58] there are t-shirts involved just if that

[43:00] grease you know we're hoping to have

[43:02] t-shirts for this. So, all the

[43:04] volunteers will will get a t-shirt. Um,

[43:07] and the the big event um throughout the

[43:10] day, you can see there's three different

[43:11] events. There's a Roxy a theater event

[43:13] that I'd love to have have you go to,

[43:14] but I'll focus just on in interest of

[43:17] time on the on the two events that

[43:18] really encompass the the bridge loop.

[43:21] The first is the kids passport

[43:23] adventure. So, each kid will be equipped

[43:25] with a map. Uh and it will go to around

[43:29] 10 different sites just between

[43:32] Evergreen Rotary Park and Whitey Don

[43:34] Viewcape

[43:36] across the MAT bridge and along the way

[43:39] there will be different stations and

[43:42] there will be historic photos and there

[43:44] will be a kind of a dosent who will talk

[43:46] through sometimes very briefly for kids

[43:48] who are just interested in filling out

[43:49] their maps but for other people who are

[43:51] interested in information. Pioneer Ferry

[43:53] that used to go between Manette and

[43:55] Bremerson is one of one of our stations.

[43:58] um for instance that but uh hidden

[44:00] artifacts that you would not otherwise

[44:02] know about in the history of Remington

[44:05] um and that will come alive for people

[44:07] for kids and adults alike and then

[44:10] they'll make their way back across and

[44:12] they can redeem their map their finished

[44:14] map for a cookie at Evergreen Pizza as

[44:16] well as a a duck from um the Turner Joy

[44:20] Museum and it's good for the USS Turner

[44:23] Joy Museum ship to pass as one for them

[44:25] and a guardian or parent of that they

[44:28] continue. So, it's it's really fun uh

[44:31] really special event. I will also do a

[44:33] narrated tour of the entire bridge loop

[44:35] and we have speakers along the route all

[44:37] the way from uh upper ro of vista park

[44:41] um another another sort of I think

[44:44] diamond in the rough you know yes it's

[44:46] along avenue I know but there's some

[44:49] really interesting history there and

[44:51] certainly lower road is has has some

[44:53] great great history um we'll have we'll

[44:55] have people all along al along the

[44:57] entire route um as we narrate and move

[45:00] along and we always need volunteers to

[45:01] make sure people are are safe. Um these

[45:04] are city streets that we're we're

[45:05] traversing. So anybody that would like

[45:08] to go with us over at the crosswalk

[45:10] locations that that those will be our

[45:12] primary areas where we'll meet some

[45:14] volunteers if you would uh be so

[45:16] inclined from around 11:00 a.m. to 3

[45:18] p.m. is kind of our sweet spot for for

[45:20] volunteer efforts. And as I said, we

[45:22] have a a website to register folks um

[45:25] who want to be volunteers and get

[45:27] t-shirts and be an official part of

[45:30] that. And I'm happy to answer any

[45:32] questions that you have.

[45:38] I partly invited Josh because of our

[45:41] discussions in the last few months of

[45:43] potentially looking at some historical

[45:45] tag tours within our park system, but

[45:48] thought this would be a great way to

[45:50] help out Josh and kind of see how he

[45:53] manages it and then we could look at it

[45:55] as as kind of a good guiding guiding

[45:59] document for us to be able to to do some

[46:02] um some walks within our park system.

[46:07] That' be great.

[46:08] >> Well, and it would be it would be great

[46:11] to have a a joint venture. It would be

[46:13] nice to support it over

[46:16] that would be a nice part for sure.

[46:20] >> Yeah.

[46:20] >> Josh, the website that I see on there,

[46:22] that's where we can sign up.

[46:23] >> Yep.

[46:25] I will send an email to Tim who can

[46:27] email it to you that has the volunteer

[46:30] specific volunteer sheet. Um I some

[46:32] suggestion that you know that it would

[46:34] be kind of cool to have parks commission

[46:36] you know the bridge is going to be

[46:38] really central the manette bridge will

[46:40] have four history stations so in in in

[46:45] the al coes so there's four al coes on

[46:47] the bridge and there will be a station

[46:48] at each one but like the crossing um uh

[46:51] on Washington Avenue at the bridge it's

[46:54] a busy crossing it'd be great to have a

[46:56] volunteer or two there and and then on

[46:58] the other side of the bridge between the

[47:01] roundabout. Those would be two locations

[47:03] that um that would be great to have

[47:06] volunteers from at the parks. Just a

[47:08] suggestion, but there are plenty of

[47:09] other spots, too.

[47:12] >> How was the screen for?

[47:14] >> Well, uh the flyer that you see there,

[47:16] we're hosting those around town. Um

[47:18] that's that's the main way. Um and then,

[47:21] uh social media. We are, we obviously

[47:23] have a website now, bridging

[47:24] verbton.com, and we're also on Facebook.

[47:27] Uh, trying to um, yeah, Richie Gmerson

[47:30] has a page on Facebook. I've done some

[47:33] videos promoting it. Um, and we have an

[47:35] Instagram that helps.

[47:37] >> Is this on the city website, too,

[47:41] >> probably isn't, but easily could be.

[47:44] It's a great suggestion.

[47:45] >> That would be great. I don't Yeah, I

[47:47] just don't see the city logos down

[47:48] there. I'm hoping we'll

[47:50] >> the city can get behind.

[47:51] >> We have not provided funding to support

[47:54] it.

[47:56] >> One one thing um about the city. So the

[47:58] mayor will will speak um typically has

[48:02] um through all of the events and

[48:04] carnations.

[48:04] >> He walks too.

[48:05] >> Yeah. And he does. Yeah. Yeah. I think

[48:06] he's joining us on

[48:08] >> almost fall if not all walks. Yeah.

[48:11] >> But been great to have him there. There

[48:13] was one other thing I was going to say

[48:15] about that but can't remember. Yeah. So

[48:18] yeah, we certainly have lot lots of

[48:20] support from the city which has been

[48:22] great.

[48:23] >> If I go to that website and I can share

[48:26] a link I mean I can copy and share it

[48:28] like Forest Ridge Park we have our

[48:30] monthly work party. I could share it on

[48:32] that page.

[48:33] >> You bet. Okay.

[48:34] >> Yeah, you bet. You can absolutely share

[48:35] it. Um we also everybody that goes to

[48:37] this event you can already get copies of

[48:39] this but there is a bridge to rich trail

[48:41] walking map that was made leadership kit

[48:44] class a few years ago made really nice

[48:46] one. I curated the different bits of

[48:48] history that's that are throughout.

[48:50] You'll see the the motif of that star

[48:52] the starfish there or the sea star

[48:56] >> um which you can still find on on street

[48:58] there.

[48:59] >> Um but also within that map and of

[49:01] course we'll we'll keep that um and

[49:03] it'll probably be a part of a t-shirt

[49:05] too um that's coming out. So yeah um so

[49:09] that is on the city's website I believe.

[49:11] I think so.

[49:13] >> I feel like there's multiple electrical

[49:15] boxes that have the rack with the

[49:17] >> with the route on it, too.

[49:19] >> That's right. Yeah. I I loved that. Um a

[49:21] few years ago when that I think it was

[49:22] the public works department that

[49:24] actually put the funding, but of course,

[49:25] thanks to the arts commission for for

[49:27] that beautifying our our electrical

[49:30] boxes. Yeah, there's one at the corner

[49:32] of 11th and Pacific and then there's one

[49:35] on this side by the heart wall or the

[49:37] intersection of state that

[49:40] >> and you said the main volunteer hours

[49:42] would be like 11 to three. Do you have

[49:44] to be there that whole time?

[49:45] >> No. Um frankly um if you wanted to split

[49:48] it um or I would say 11 to 1 is really

[49:52] our high traffic time. So if you if you

[49:54] had a little time during the day um that

[49:56] would be the best time for us to ask.

[49:59] And for on the bridge in the alope, are

[50:00] we going to have like canopies or

[50:02] something for shade?

[50:03] >> We are. That is still uh the history

[50:06] museum and the Turner Joy Museum.

[50:08] Turnjoy has one of them and the history

[50:10] museum has three of the stations on the

[50:12] bridge and they are planning some kind

[50:14] of a canopy. We don't know how big we

[50:16] can really make it though because

[50:19] it's a limited sidewalk but yeah the

[50:21] hope we will have some kind of shape for

[50:23] the for the volunteers that

[50:26] >> means you're anticipating good weather.

[50:29] >> It means we're the sun to block the sun.

[50:33] >> Block the sun. Exactly.

[50:36] >> I wish it was raining. Well,

[50:39] >> we need the right

[50:41] question.

[50:44] >> Questions.

[50:44] >> Did you want to touch on the six

[50:46] o'clock? Because I think it's it's a it

[50:48] sounds really cool.

[50:49] >> It does.

[50:50] >> Yeah. I'm really I'm really excited

[50:51] about it. So, kind of handpicked um

[50:54] about seven different speakers. Um and

[50:58] uh I something that I think uh gets

[51:01] overlooked, maybe not overlooked in

[51:02] Bremerson, but that many of us are from

[51:05] here, but there are a lot of people who

[51:06] come to find Bremer. The Navy of course

[51:08] is a prominent presence always here and and we come here and we adapt to

[51:15] Breton and we fall in love with Breton

[51:17] and that's certainly my story and I know

[51:19] many people share that story. So I we're

[51:22] curating a kind of a a unique story

[51:25] event where people will share either

[51:28] stories from history where people came

[51:30] to Breton. Um there's a there's a great

[51:33] story of a of a woman who um her husband

[51:36] died on a fishing vessel. She was from

[51:38] Norway. She came and she was the first

[51:41] uh employee to retire from a US naval

[51:44] shipyard right here in Puget Sound. and

[51:46] she worked in the sail off which of

[51:47] course the sail off at the future sound

[51:50] naval shipyard began because we were in

[51:52] the age of sale with like literally navy

[51:55] ships had sales on them and of course

[51:57] that's later they handle textiles and

[52:00] things like that for nuclear navy

[52:01] submarines and and aircraft carriers but

[52:03] this woman's story is one of adaptation

[52:06] she came to Breton she lived downtown

[52:08] and she became part of the fabric of the

[52:10] community we'll have we'll we'll have

[52:11] some personal stories that people will

[52:13] tell as well as just kind

[52:15] general people like Quincy Jones and and

[52:18] how they came here and how Breton

[52:20] changed them. And my hope is we'll tell

[52:22] a few stories. There may or may not be

[52:24] some trivia. I do like doing some trivia

[52:26] for for people. And um it'll be kind of

[52:29] a little bit of a variety show. Um there

[52:32] will be Evergreen Pizza is going to sell

[52:33] pizza outside and of course you can get

[52:35] a drink um at uh at the at the Ross

[52:38] Theater. Um but the idea is it's

[52:41] entertaining. you'll learn some

[52:43] interesting facts but that we all leave

[52:45] kind of grounded in hey you know you

[52:47] learn something about history but you're

[52:49] the connection that we all share to this

[52:51] place

[52:52] >> and strengthening that connection

[52:53] because Virginia Breton is all about the

[52:55] connection geographically this will be

[52:57] more of like our our connection that we

[52:59] all experience by as you know lived here

[53:03] and and

[53:06] we and it's complete all of this by the

[53:08] way is completely free it's made

[53:09] possible by our very generous service

[53:12] clubs uh the East Breton Rotary,

[53:14] downtown Rotary, and the Breton Central

[53:16] Lines. That's that's who's uh uh funding

[53:19] this. I should also just briefly mention

[53:21] that we um do help with paint supplies

[53:25] for the uh Manette Art Wall, the the YA

[53:28] graffiti invitational will be going on.

[53:30] And so, and there will be cans of paint

[53:32] for people who walk the bridge loop to

[53:34] be able to go up and paint something

[53:36] themselves and hear from the artists.

[53:37] And the artists are doing a big

[53:39] collective mural as they've done every

[53:41] year for this event as well. So it's

[53:42] another kind of cool I I sort of

[53:44] envision that as many spaces as we can

[53:47] activate you know on the bridge loop as

[53:50] possible you know in future years I hope

[53:52] to grow it even further and this year um

[53:56] that we are have partnered with Sunny

[53:58] Saunders who puts on Blackberry Festival

[54:00] and the the Bremer Bridge Blast um she

[54:05] has really helped me to grow and she's

[54:07] handling the logistics and making sure

[54:09] this year we're going to have

[54:09] portaotties for the first time a lot a

[54:12] lot of People have said, you know, this

[54:13] is a long walk. You, you know, it's good

[54:15] to be be able to have a bathroom along

[54:18] the way. So, um, yeah, that's, um, it's

[54:21] helped me to be able to focus on content

[54:23] and, um, and putting on, uh, the event

[54:26] making a specialist.

[54:30] » Sounds like a great time,

[54:32] >> doesn't it, though?

[54:33] >> Yeah, I'm really jazzed. But yeah, thank

[54:36] you for just listening and and being

[54:38] willing to support in any way that you

[54:40] want to. So,

[54:42] Thanks, Josh. Great.

[54:43] >> Thank you.

[54:44] >> I appreciate you coming down. Yeah.

[54:47] Thanks everybody.

[54:55] » Right.

[54:56] >> The dog part. Okay.

[54:58] >> Yes.

[55:01] >> Now on to Tubby.

[55:03] >> Tubby's Trail. Has anybody been to

[55:05] Tubby's Trail?

[55:07] >> Out in the harbor, man.

[55:08] >> It's out in the Hobbit.

[55:10] >> I know it. right right off the highway

[55:12] right near the bridge.

[55:16] >> Um this was a another good this one

[55:19] definitely shows you uh the type of

[55:22] fencing they utilized here. Um probably

[55:25] some of the most expensive fencing but

[55:28] um

[55:29] it's it's well utilized. It's a really

[55:31] nice facility. Uh this is a 1.2 acre off

[55:35] leash area uh within an 8 and a half

[55:37] acre park.

[55:40] um outside of the um initial entry area.

[55:46] Uh it's a three-foot vinyl coated chain

[55:48] link fencing. Uh doublegated bolt pin

[55:51] entry. Again, uh natural ground surface

[55:54] like many of the others. Um there's no

[55:57] dedicated walking trail within this soft

[55:59] leash area. Uh so just really um

[56:02] conversation areas and um areas for dogs

[56:06] to roam. Uh there's water available from

[56:09] a higher fire hydrant which you can see

[56:12] in the center there

[56:14] um within the offish area and then there

[56:17] is a portable restroom on the exterior

[56:19] that is provided. It does have a shade

[56:22] structure which is in that bottom right

[56:24] hand corner and there is a separate

[56:27] small dog area. So as you enter in small

[56:30] dog area was to the right, large dog

[56:32] area to the left or to the left and then

[56:35] the large dog area to the right.

[56:38] Uh let's see. No agility or kind of play

[56:42] equipment there at all. Um area

[56:45] functions as a catchment for excess

[56:49] water. Um so you can kind of see in this

[56:51] bottom left corner.

[56:53] >> Yeah, that's where um it actually was

[56:55] dry. Uh but you can definitely tell when water comes in that's that's really

[57:01] that center area becomes full with

[57:03] water. Um and we can become very muddy.

[57:06] Yeah, it's between the whole it's within

[57:08] the whole structure.

[57:10] >> Yeah. And that's okay.

[57:11] >> Yeah.

[57:13] >> Let's see. Um things we noticed. Uh it's

[57:18] compact. Um functional dog park with

[57:21] basic amenities, separate areas for

[57:23] different dog sizes. Uh the history of

[57:26] this park since seems like nobody's

[57:28] been. Tubby was a black cocker spaniel

[57:31] and was the only fatality associated to

[57:34] the 1942's

[57:36] bridge collapse.

[57:37] >> Really?

[57:42] » Yeah.

[57:44] >> Um you can also see kind of in the upper

[57:46] right um we kind of briefly talked about

[57:50] accessibility. Um that's one of our

[57:52] overall concerns with all these other um

[57:56] even like this one. It did have a conc

[57:59] or an asphalt slab where there was

[58:01] accessible parking, but beyond that,

[58:04] nothing was accessible. The restroom

[58:06] facility adjacent to the accessible

[58:08] parking stall isn't even accessible.

[58:11] >> Um, just thought that that was really

[58:13] interesting throughout all of these. And

[58:15] again, with the natural surface in

[58:17] between, it would be very difficult to

[58:19] roll a wheelchair around. Um, so that's

[58:22] something that we definitely want to

[58:24] take advantage of with our park is is

[58:27] designing it so we can ensure that

[58:29] there's some accessibility not only on

[58:31] the exterior but on the interior of the dog park.

[58:35] >> And I think that checks a couple of the

[58:37] boxes that were within your slides as

[58:40] well.

[58:40] >> Yeah. So, if I might uh suggest that you

[58:45] look at perhaps a little higher of a of

[58:48] a fence, three feet

[58:52] I've had dogs that

[58:54] without Yeah. You know, without

[58:56] >> Well, they kind of preface this.

[58:57] >> So, four, you know, even four feet, you

[58:59] know, it was better than

[59:01] >> And that was all part of these swaps.

[59:04] It's like taking some of the good things

[59:06] that other parts have done and some of

[59:08] the things that we think that we can

[59:09] improve on before we start to plan out

[59:12] ours. And so

[59:13] >> it's just more of an acknowledgement of

[59:15] what we saw and what we can learn from

[59:18] it.

[59:19] >> Yeah. And even looking at, you know,

[59:21] cost.

[59:22] >> Um maybe three to four foot is okay for

[59:26] a small dog area, but definitely not for

[59:28] a big dog area. So maybe you look at two

[59:31] different heights of fencing. uh just to

[59:34] make your your dollar stretch a little

[59:35] bit further.

[59:37] >> That fence would be expensive.

[59:39] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[59:40] >> Yep. Absolutely.

[59:44] All right. Ready to move on to the next

[59:47] one?

[59:48] >> Okay. Now, we're moving to Bandex Dog

[59:50] Park, which is in Port Orchard.

[59:54] Uh Bandix is a 30 acre park uh in a

[59:58] natural setting. Uh so they have a 6

[1:00:01] foot high uh chain link fence which is

[1:00:05] only along the parking area. Um the off

[1:00:09] leash area is not fully enclosed. Um and

[1:00:12] it does have a double gate of bullpin

[1:00:14] entry and Brian can attest to this

[1:00:17] reason why the the fencing is only in

[1:00:20] this area is because they use the

[1:00:22] natural environment as the barrier

[1:00:24] throughout the rest of the park.

[1:00:27] Uh, wouldn't I say that he can attest to

[1:00:29] this because this is a county park and

[1:00:32] he happened to work for county.

[1:00:35] >> How many acres? 30 acres.

[1:00:37] >> 30 acres. Yeah. So, this is a pretty good size. Uh, wooded trails. Uh,

[1:00:42] again within this larger dog park area.

[1:00:45] Uh, natural ground surfacing.

[1:00:48] Uh, no permanent water source. Users

[1:00:50] bring their own water jugs. Uh there is

[1:00:53] portable west restroom that is

[1:00:55] available. Uh natural shade beneath um

[1:00:58] the existing trees as amenities and

[1:01:02] users bring their own portable

[1:01:03] furniture. Um and I don't Yeah. So like

[1:01:06] on the bottom right hand or lefthand

[1:01:08] corner uh that was common in one of the

[1:01:11] other county parks as well that you have

[1:01:13] just plastic chairs that people have

[1:01:14] brought to be able to share and so

[1:01:16] people can utilize.

[1:01:19] Uh there is a separate small dog p small dog area although it was a little

[1:01:23] bit overgrown. So as you pulled down

[1:01:26] into the bark the majority is the large

[1:01:29] dog and then on the right hand side was

[1:01:31] a was was a smaller dog uh entry area

[1:01:35] that was totally separate from the large

[1:01:37] dog area. Uh no no agility equipment

[1:01:41] smaller points there.

[1:01:44] >> Yeah yeah yeah. So observations it was

[1:01:46] very natural low impact setting uh that

[1:01:50] relies heavy heavily on existing

[1:01:52] vegetation and park features uh rather

[1:01:54] than having built-in amenities. So um

[1:01:58] remind me this

[1:02:00] bottom right hand corner was that for

[1:02:02] jugs?

[1:02:03] >> Yeah, this was just for water jugs.

[1:02:05] Yeah.

[1:02:05] >> So when they're empty if you get a

[1:02:06] chance grab a few

[1:02:09] >> fill them up bring back. So the pink

[1:02:12] that you see the the pink rectangle,

[1:02:14] those are the the dog doggy bags.

[1:02:17] >> So um they didn't necessarily have them

[1:02:20] in stations. Uh they were just kind of

[1:02:23] out hanging. So easy to access and hard

[1:02:26] to miss.

[1:02:27] >> Yeah,

[1:02:29] most definitely. You will see on the

[1:02:31] kiosk on the bottom leftand corner there

[1:02:33] is a scanner there.

[1:02:34] >> Oh yeah.

[1:02:35] >> So they do have the scanner there. Cool.

[1:02:38] I don't know that I've ever seen a red.

[1:02:45] » Yeah. So, we moved to like the red and

[1:02:47] the pink colored ones because they first

[1:02:50] off they started out in brown.

[1:02:52] >> Yeah.

[1:02:53] >> They became very difficult to find when

[1:02:56] people discarded them

[1:02:58] >> and then they went to green and green

[1:03:00] made it even more difficult to find them

[1:03:02] in the bushes and everything like so

[1:03:05] made it more obvious. uh by going to a

[1:03:08] brighter color.

[1:03:10] >> Yeah.

[1:03:10] >> A reminder to pick it up.

[1:03:13] >> Yeah. So, one thing that will be

[1:03:16] consistent among a lot of of these that

[1:03:18] I just made a note at the end, but is

[1:03:21] something to kind of keep your your mind

[1:03:23] on, most all of these dog parks are

[1:03:25] managed by volunteers.

[1:03:26] >> Yeah.

[1:03:27] >> Uh very little staff time go into them.

[1:03:30] The upper right hand corner you see a

[1:03:32] garbage can. Even at most of these

[1:03:35] sites, there's garbage cans there. and a

[1:03:37] volunteer will come and roll it out and

[1:03:40] leave it out for the for the garbage

[1:03:43] truck to come and pick up. So, a lot of um whether they're um

[1:03:49] stewardship groups or just volunteers

[1:03:52] that sign up, a lot of the dog parks are really managed by the users

[1:03:57] themselves.

[1:04:00] Anything

[1:04:02] else on

[1:04:04] panics?

[1:04:08] Okay, next one. How farm? Anybody been

[1:04:10] to How farm?

[1:04:11] >> Yeah.

[1:04:12] >> Yes. Yeah. Okay. I really like that. I

[1:04:14] really like the separation of this one

[1:04:16] between the the nice open kind of field

[1:04:18] areas and then the fenced in area.

[1:04:21] >> Yeah.

[1:04:21] >> So, how farm is a 13 acre dog park uh

[1:04:25] that's has forest and meadow settings.

[1:04:28] uh has five foot high fencing with chain

[1:04:31] link and double gated bolt pin entry. Uh

[1:04:34] so wire mesh fencing used in other areas

[1:04:37] which is something that I think we

[1:04:38] should look at as well. Uh so having

[1:04:41] that stronger, more durable where your

[1:04:43] bulkhead and entries are, but then

[1:04:45] having uh something that's just more of

[1:04:48] a a necessary barrier but less cost um

[1:04:52] in other parts of the uh dog park off

[1:04:56] leash trails throughout. wooded areas

[1:04:59] combined uh with that massive open

[1:05:02] meadow space. So, kind of two different

[1:05:04] levels of of meadow for this park. Uh

[1:05:08] there's no water source. Um but there's

[1:05:10] portable restrooms that are available.

[1:05:13] Uh no permanent shade structures, but

[1:05:15] shades provided by natural wood setting

[1:05:17] and there are some picnic tables

[1:05:19] throughout. Um no separate areas in this

[1:05:22] one as well uh between large and small

[1:05:24] dog areas. um no agility. Um it's

[1:05:29] natural surface. Uh things that we

[1:05:32] observed. Uh this kind of combines the

[1:05:34] benefits of wooded trails and open

[1:05:36] meadow space in a natural park setting.

[1:05:39] >> How big was this one?

[1:05:41] >> 30 acres.

[1:05:42] >> 13

[1:05:44] >> is what I've got. What do you think it

[1:05:46] is?

[1:05:46] >> 6.6.

[1:05:49] acres. And that is a a permanent

[1:05:53] rental car.

[1:05:53] >> Yeah.

[1:05:54] >> Okay. Oh. Oh, yeah. That's right. Burn

[1:05:57] restroom over there.

[1:05:58] >> Um, so maybe the whole area was 13.

[1:06:01] >> And this is what you're talking about in

[1:06:04] terms of the the kind of the the more

[1:06:07] mesht type sensing and then the natural

[1:06:10] growth that grows up around it to

[1:06:12] support that barrier.

[1:06:14] >> Yeah. So you'll see down here at the

[1:06:15] very bottom of the field, this is a big

[1:06:17] open field down here

[1:06:19] >> and and blackberries and natural

[1:06:22] vegetation from Strawberry Creek is kind

[1:06:24] of encroached on the field fence

[1:06:26] creating that barrier. But the thought

[1:06:29] process into this was exactly what Tim

[1:06:33] uh noted was, you know, the bullpen a

[1:06:37] little little more stout uh a little

[1:06:40] more rigid and then uh kind of keeping a

[1:06:43] more open visual or visually open

[1:06:48] setting and then vegetation's allowed to grow back. there.

[1:06:54] >> And the the other nice thing about this

[1:06:56] park from a user perspective is that the trails are just kind of winding, you

[1:07:02] know, meandering kind of through the,

[1:07:04] you know, it's it's it's a nice setting

[1:07:07] and the dog the dogs move along with

[1:07:09] you, you know, rather than back up and

[1:07:11] do some movement.

[1:07:14] >> It was it was well attended the day that

[1:07:17] we were there.

[1:07:17] >> Yeah, it was very busy. And I made a

[1:07:20] mistake. I said six dog park barks. We

[1:07:22] went to eight.

[1:07:23] >> Wow.

[1:07:24] >> I lost track.

[1:07:25] >> We did four one day, four another day.

[1:07:28] >> Yeah. And this was kids at property

[1:07:30] again at this particular

[1:07:33] >> Yeah.

[1:07:35] >> All right.

[1:07:37] Then on to Bainbridge Island. We had big

[1:07:38] expectations for the Banebridge folk.

[1:07:41] >> Uh but we were very disappointed. I'll say that.

[1:07:45] >> Wow. Um, so hopefully none of them are

[1:07:49] listening tonight.

[1:07:51] >> Red doesn't have We're good.

[1:07:55] >> Okay. So, we were at Eagleale Park, uh,

[1:07:58] off leash area. Uh, this is a 1 acre off

[1:08:02] leash area within a larger park. Um, so

[1:08:06] access to it, it's located in the upper

[1:08:09] and back end of the park area. uh access

[1:08:14] is a walk-in from a parking lot at the

[1:08:16] bottom of the hill. Almost seems like

[1:08:18] there should have been a home site up

[1:08:20] above at one point and maybe they

[1:08:22] donated the property to the park

[1:08:23] district. Uh but there's definitely no

[1:08:25] home up there anymore. There's a lot of

[1:08:27] broken concrete. Um some pathways that

[1:08:29] don't make sense and even getting down

[1:08:31] to the dog park area in the very back is

[1:08:36] steps. Um and so it's completely

[1:08:38] unaccessible. Um, even the uh the slope

[1:08:42] up from the parking area isn't something

[1:08:45] that someone would be able to access.

[1:08:47] >> No, it says right here.

[1:08:49] >> Yeah. Um, it's steeper than what we're

[1:08:52] making it look. We're just Yeah.

[1:08:53] >> Raw athletes.

[1:08:55] >> What does that sign say that you're

[1:08:57] standing next to that you can't

[1:08:59] >> off leash area?

[1:09:00] >> Is that what it says?

[1:09:02] >> Uh, yes.

[1:09:03] >> Okay.

[1:09:04] >> A little faded.

[1:09:05] >> Which one are you looking at?

[1:09:06] >> One where you're standing next to that.

[1:09:08] >> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. is

[1:09:09] awfully shared.

[1:09:11] >> Yeah, I was pulling the limb back

[1:09:13] because it was like,

[1:09:14] >> oh man, that sign looks

[1:09:15] >> need some love.

[1:09:16] >> Yeah, it needs some love.

[1:09:18] >> And here's some maintenance.

[1:09:20] >> Yes.

[1:09:22] >> So, the fencing in the park varies

[1:09:23] between four to six foot high and fence

[1:09:27] along the fence area. Uh you can see on

[1:09:30] the upper right that there is a small

[1:09:32] trail that kind of meanders around, but

[1:09:34] it's a very small um very small dog

[1:09:36] park. Uh no water source or restrooms uh

[1:09:40] within the off leash area. There was a

[1:09:43] restroom down below uh where the main

[1:09:45] parking area was. Uh no, let's see. Uh

[1:09:50] limited uh amenities. Uh primarily a

[1:09:54] natural park setting. Uh no separate

[1:09:57] small dog, small or large dog area, just

[1:10:00] allin-one. Uh no type of agility. Um you

[1:10:04] can see on the bottom of the um

[1:10:11] » yeah bottom of the kiosk they have a

[1:10:13] bucket there so people would put uh

[1:10:15] tennis balls in there

[1:10:17] >> which was kind of a cool idea um that

[1:10:20] they had you know a spot that people

[1:10:22] could drop a tennis ball or if they

[1:10:24] forgot one lost one there's there's

[1:10:26] something there uh that people can could

[1:10:28] share.

[1:10:30] Um, we kind of figured, let's see,

[1:10:32] seasonal conditions could become very

[1:10:34] soggy and muddy during the wet season.

[1:10:36] Uh, not a whole lot of direct sunlight.

[1:10:39] Um, things that we noticed, it was very

[1:10:42] small natural offish area. Uh, suited to

[1:10:46] be more of a neighborhood use. Um, and,

[1:10:50] uh, it's integrated into a little bit

[1:10:53] larger. Um, she noted as a community

[1:10:55] park. I'd probably note it as just a

[1:10:57] neighborhood park. Uh the overall size

[1:10:59] or the space. Yeah.

[1:11:02] >> Just because of the size.

[1:11:04] >> Yeah.

[1:11:05] The usable space. Yeah.

[1:11:07] >> So it could use some less.

[1:11:09] >> It could. Yeah. We've never seen that

[1:11:11] much moss on top of anything before.

[1:11:13] That was impressive.

[1:11:17] » Yes. All right. So the second uh

[1:11:20] Bainbridge Island spot we hit,

[1:11:22] Strawberry Hill. Uh much improved. Uh

[1:11:25] this is a um

[1:11:29] shows it is a halfacre or sorry half or

[1:11:32] five acre five acre five acre wooded off

[1:11:34] leash area um with a small and large dog

[1:11:39] area fully enclosed 4 foot high chain

[1:11:43] link fence and a large double gated um

[1:11:46] if you're familiar with an airlock

[1:11:48] bullpin entry. So air lock essentially

[1:11:51] there's you're not um the post you're

[1:11:54] not pulling up and down the clip. Um

[1:11:57] it's kind of basically spring loed and

[1:11:59] rests up against it. So once you're in

[1:12:01] the bullpin a dog could once it's ready

[1:12:05] push its way into the area that they

[1:12:08] wanted to go. So the larger small area.

[1:12:11] Um so that was the only one that we'd

[1:12:12] seen that way. They did use this type of

[1:12:14] fencing throughout the entire park. Um,

[1:12:17] so it had to have been quite an expense

[1:12:20] uh to put that in, but it's it's a nice

[1:12:22] fence.

[1:12:24] >> Yeah. Uh, wooded natural area. Um,

[1:12:30] there's no trails within the fenced in

[1:12:32] area. Although on the large dog side, we

[1:12:35] did see people that utilize the

[1:12:37] exterior. Um,

[1:12:41] let's see. There's water hose available

[1:12:43] for filling dog bowls, restroom within

[1:12:45] the larger park. Uh there's benches and

[1:12:48] seating uh with mature trees uh

[1:12:51] providing natural shade. Uh waste bags

[1:12:54] and receptacles are provided. Um

[1:12:57] separate like I said separate small dog

[1:12:59] area. They also had a training bay at

[1:13:02] this one which is that middle left

[1:13:04] picture. Uh so the out on the separate

[1:13:08] on the opposite um side of the little

[1:13:11] pathway from the large and small dog

[1:13:13] area was a separate training area or I

[1:13:16] would assume if you have a dog that

[1:13:17] doesn't socialize well it might be a

[1:13:19] good spot to kind of run your dog. It

[1:13:21] wasn't a real big space uh but was kind

[1:13:24] of nice to hadn't seen that before. So

[1:13:26] it's nice kind of separate area that

[1:13:28] they provided there. uh natural ground

[1:13:31] surface, although a lot of it was all

[1:13:33] mulch um throughout the entire which I'm

[1:13:36] would take to the water probably a lot

[1:13:38] better than some of the others uh parks

[1:13:41] that we've seen. Um nearby amenities.

[1:13:44] It's in a in a park where there's

[1:13:46] playgrounds, sports fields, um various

[1:13:49] courts, skate park, uh picnic shelters,

[1:13:52] and just other multiuse spaces.

[1:14:00] Dad, ready to go on?

[1:14:02] >> Let's go.

[1:14:03] >> We're getting closer to home.

[1:14:05] >> And how and how many acres I see?

[1:14:07] >> That was five. Five acres still. Yeah.

[1:14:12] >> Okay. KSO,

[1:14:15] probably the least impressive dog park

[1:14:17] maybe that we saw. Uh Rob Park. Uh this

[1:14:20] is a.7 acre off leash area. um

[1:14:26] uh within a 21 acre community park. Uh

[1:14:30] so 4 foot high chain link fence uh

[1:14:32] doublegated bulkin entry natural ground

[1:14:35] surface which within a larger community

[1:14:38] park uh no fenced in trails within this

[1:14:41] area. Water hose was available for

[1:14:44] filling dog bowls and there's a restroom

[1:14:46] that was nearby. Uh benches and seating

[1:14:49] were available. Um

[1:14:52] there was a small dog area, separate

[1:14:54] fence area provided some separation

[1:14:56] between the large and small dog area.

[1:14:58] You can kind of see it off. Um well,

[1:15:02] we're on the upper right. We're inside

[1:15:03] the large dog and then you can see the

[1:15:05] fence on the left hand side for the

[1:15:07] small dog area.

[1:15:10] Uh let's see.

[1:15:13] Um

[1:15:15] so it's close to um picnic shelters,

[1:15:19] playgrounds, sports courts, skate park,

[1:15:21] community gardens. Um

[1:15:23] it's a very compact off leash area. Um

[1:15:28] benefits from its location within a

[1:15:30] larger amenity um community park. So

[1:15:33] just a a small off leash space um that

[1:15:38] it larger.

[1:15:40] >> What's that?

[1:15:41] >> I said after. Yes. Almost an

[1:15:43] afterthought, but it's right at the

[1:15:45] entry to the main main park. So, this is

[1:15:47] kind of this is the uh the front porch

[1:15:50] of the main park.

[1:15:51] >> Yeah. As you come in

[1:15:56] like the ground was all dirt there, too.

[1:15:58] >> Oh, yeah. It's pretty much either all

[1:16:01] worn up or

[1:16:02] >> I've been there. It's really all dirt.

[1:16:05] >> Yeah. Go back there.

[1:16:08] >> The one side's pretty slow. I feel like

[1:16:10] the entrance

[1:16:12] >> where you're talking about kind of

[1:16:12] slopes off.

[1:16:14] >> Yeah. As you move further back, it

[1:16:15] slopes slopes off.

[1:16:17] >> Pretty good.

[1:16:18] >> Yeah.

[1:16:20] And then just again like the

[1:16:21] bottom right hand or left hand corner

[1:16:23] just kind of an example of something

[1:16:25] that they provide there. They provide a

[1:16:26] shovel to talk through.

[1:16:30] >> Just have a shovel hanging out there.

[1:16:31] >> And nobody stole there.

[1:16:33] >> No. Sorry. No, they have it. No, it's there.

[1:16:39] All right.

[1:16:41] Okay. Silverdale Dog Park is a 1.3 acre

[1:16:44] off leash area uh within Silverdale

[1:16:47] Rotary Gateway Park. Uh it has 4 foot

[1:16:50] high chain link fencing and double gated

[1:16:52] bullpin entry. Um

[1:16:55] it's directly adjacent to the Cedar

[1:16:57] Creek Trail providing opportunities for

[1:17:00] leashed uh walks before and after dog

[1:17:03] park use. Um

[1:17:05] there's a water spigot and restroom that

[1:17:08] are available adjacent. Uh this one also

[1:17:11] had a storage shed that was in before

[1:17:15] you entered in for the volunteers to be

[1:17:17] able to access the various supplies

[1:17:20] which I thought was kind of interesting.

[1:17:23] Um there's benches and seating mature

[1:17:25] trees. Uh they used a carport structure

[1:17:29] for the the shade structure. uh waste

[1:17:32] bags and receptacles are provided there.

[1:17:35] Also, similar to uh one of the parks in

[1:17:39] Port Orchard there, and you can see them

[1:17:41] kind of in the middle on the right, um

[1:17:44] some chairs that people have donated uh

[1:17:46] for seating there as well.

[1:17:50] Uh let's see, they do have a separate

[1:17:52] fenced in area for small dogs, natural

[1:17:55] ground surface. Um there was quite a few

[1:17:58] people there that day, so uh definitely

[1:18:01] was getting dusty. Um and then you

[1:18:03] figured that it would be pretty muddy in

[1:18:05] the winter weather unless you have some

[1:18:07] ground growth that that kind of covers

[1:18:09] things back up. Observations uh is very

[1:18:13] popular and convenient location. Our

[1:18:15] parking could become busy because it

[1:18:17] also serves as a parking lot for the

[1:18:20] main recreational pathways and uses to

[1:18:23] the main part of the park.

[1:18:25] This is the one off Silverdale Way by

[1:18:27] the skate park.

[1:18:32] » Yeah.

[1:18:32] I've seen people that that little

[1:18:34] parking lot gets packed.

[1:18:36] >> It does. Yeah. And it was we were there

[1:18:39] >> was a Wednesday or a Thursday, but we

[1:18:41] were there at 11:00 10 11 o'clock in the

[1:18:44] morning and it was packed. So,

[1:18:46] >> but they weren't all pretty.

[1:18:49] >> No, a lot of people on the trail.

[1:18:50] >> Oh, yeah. On the trails. Yeah.

[1:18:52] Definitely not everybody. Oh, there's a

[1:18:54] black. Yes,

[1:18:55] >> it's rounded.

[1:18:57] >> This one also, the other ones I didn't

[1:18:59] see it at all. Um, individual donations

[1:19:03] or in memory of pets, they had little

[1:19:06] plaques that were along uh different

[1:19:09] parts of the fence lines. Uh, so I

[1:19:11] assume they use that as, you know,

[1:19:13] fundraiser to to put amenities back into

[1:19:17] uh the the uh the dog park areas.

[1:19:22] Uh, so just a couple general comments.

[1:19:25] Um, one I already touched on the

[1:19:27] accessibility. Um, this one I can't

[1:19:30] remember if the volunteer group is noted

[1:19:33] on here, but we've we kind of discovered

[1:19:36] that there's this do you remember the

[1:19:38] name of their group?

[1:19:39] >> Kids Park.

[1:19:41] >> Yeah, it's probably something simple.

[1:19:43] Kids app dog park, Inc. uh t I think

[1:19:46] managed at least three of the sites and

[1:19:49] so Colette's reached out to them to get

[1:19:51] more information

[1:19:53] um and just kind of see is that

[1:19:54] something is is Breton something they

[1:19:57] may even be interested in and if not can

[1:19:59] we steal resources ideas how do you

[1:20:01] manage the people that are um

[1:20:04] contributing and supporting each of the

[1:20:06] individual dog parks? So that was an

[1:20:09] organization none of us had heard of

[1:20:10] before. So, um, so that was that was

[1:20:13] cool to see see that partnership. I

[1:20:16] think maybe it was all the county ones

[1:20:18] that add it. Yeah.

[1:20:21] >> All of the county did you say?

[1:20:23] >> The three that we want to Yeah.

[1:20:24] >> Oh, yeah.

[1:20:26] >> partner with this organization.

[1:20:32] That's it.

[1:20:34] >> It's all eight of them.

[1:20:36] >> Cool.

[1:20:37] >> So, you're ready first week.

[1:20:39] >> So, we're ready.

[1:20:40] >> Can you? Yeah. Yeah. So, we're we're

[1:20:42] ready.

[1:20:43] >> So, how many acres is Stephenson?

[1:20:46] >> Oh, I meant I meant to write that down.

[1:20:49] Yeah. Kind of depends on the space that

[1:20:51] we utilize. Is that open space area a

[1:20:53] couple acres?

[1:20:54] >> I'd say probably close to

[1:20:58] two acres of open space down below. And

[1:21:01] then we have that upper area.

[1:21:03] >> Yeah. Not including where we're looking

[1:21:05] at for this small dog area. And it

[1:21:08] doesn't include incorporation of any of

[1:21:11] the trail systems

[1:21:12] >> right if you went over.

[1:21:13] >> So we could have anywhere between two

[1:21:16] and maybe three to four acres total to

[1:21:19] work with.

[1:21:22] >> Well, thanks for all that work.

[1:21:24] >> Yeah, I think that was great. Great idea

[1:21:26] checking it out.

[1:21:28] >> Yeah, our plan next month and we'll get

[1:21:30] information out to you is that we'll

[1:21:32] have an on-site meeting. So then we can

[1:21:34] get out

[1:21:35] >> and uh we'll just hold the whole meeting

[1:21:37] there, but we can get out um and really

[1:21:40] look at the site uh prior to getting our

[1:21:45] um our steering committee put together

[1:21:48] to help really push this project

[1:21:50] forward.

[1:21:54] » You have a projection of the approximate

[1:21:56] time frame of having it ready and to go?

[1:22:00] Uh, I mean, we'd love to be able to kind

[1:22:02] of get some, you know, the the public

[1:22:04] input process this fall, maybe do some

[1:22:07] design work in the winter and depending

[1:22:10] on what we would do in house versus

[1:22:13] contract.

[1:22:14] >> Um, to go through construction process

[1:22:17] next summer would be ideal.

[1:22:18] >> Okay.

[1:22:19] >> Next spring summer.

[1:22:22] >> Were you the chauffeur on that on those

[1:22:23] trips as well, Brandon?

[1:22:24] >> I sure was.

[1:22:25] >> Yeah, you are.

[1:22:27] >> Good.

[1:22:27] >> Yeah. Was in my Ford Escape. Yeah.

[1:22:30] >> Oh, I was going to say he didn't have

[1:22:32] that.

[1:22:33] >> I don't let anybody drive me in the city

[1:22:35] for an escape.

[1:22:38] >> What the speak about here talk about is

[1:22:40] even when this park was built, you can

[1:22:42] see along the backside that they also

[1:22:44] use vinyl coated chain link fence.

[1:22:49] But when you look at it right here,

[1:22:50] >> Yeah.

[1:22:51] >> not really needed.

[1:22:53] >> No.

[1:22:57] So something

[1:23:00] a little more simple like a field fence

[1:23:02] or something like that that's a little

[1:23:04] more practical

[1:23:06] um and a little more cost efficient will

[1:23:09] you know surely

[1:23:16] » so the location of of Stephson dog park

[1:23:19] it'll have natural shade just from trees

[1:23:22] and foliage so we wouldn't necessar

[1:23:24] necessarily need a structure.

[1:23:26] >> Well, I think that would be something

[1:23:27] good to talk about because I think we've

[1:23:30] talked about a potential to put a

[1:23:32] structure down there because it could

[1:23:33] the center portion could get quite a bit

[1:23:35] of sun, get quite a bit of sun

[1:23:36] throughout the day,

[1:23:39] >> right?

[1:23:39] >> But again, it gives us the opportunity

[1:23:41] too to use some natural barrier, but

[1:23:44] also use some trails. So, it could be a

[1:23:46] good mix.

[1:23:49] >> All right, I guess we're ready to move

[1:23:51] on. I see the next screen. the 27 28

[1:23:54] bianial budget update.

[1:23:58] >> Okay. So, as I promised throughout the

[1:24:00] budget process, I'll just kind of give

[1:24:03] be giving you some tidbits and

[1:24:04] highlights throughout. Um, so the check

[1:24:08] marks uh are things that we've gotten

[1:24:11] through so far. So, the kickoff

[1:24:12] happened. Um, I went in front of council

[1:24:15] and just kind of talked about what our

[1:24:17] needs are within the department. uh

[1:24:19] shared with them uh what some standards

[1:24:22] are uh across the country um as far as

[1:24:26] staffing levels, park sizes,

[1:24:29] um types of facilities that we we have

[1:24:33] to comparable communities. Um we've uh

[1:24:38] submitted our operating uh expense

[1:24:41] expenses and revenues. Uh we've also

[1:24:44] submitted our rates and fee structures.

[1:24:47] So, the only thing that I'm looking to

[1:24:50] change this year, I I changed all all

[1:24:53] fees last year, which was over 200 fees.

[1:24:56] This year, uh we're looking at really

[1:24:59] focusing on golf course, which is where

[1:25:01] a majority of our revenue comes in

[1:25:02] anyway. um and less on um I'm I have

[1:25:06] concerns with pricing ourselves out of

[1:25:08] business and and recreation to me is a

[1:25:14] um benefit to the community and um just

[1:25:17] making sure that uh what we're charging

[1:25:20] obviously covers our costs um but we

[1:25:23] don't want to lose participants because

[1:25:25] of what we're charging for programs. Um,

[1:25:29] and so department rates and fees, as you

[1:25:32] know, not noticed below, we'll cover

[1:25:34] that with council on October 28th. Uh,

[1:25:37] but the highlighted one is is the one I

[1:25:40] wanted to kind of cover with you today

[1:25:41] mostly was showing you uh because this

[1:25:44] year we submitted a a six-year capital

[1:25:47] improvement plan. Um, so our parks

[1:25:50] capital budget uh which coincides

[1:25:53] directly with the pros plan. Um, and so

[1:25:56] that'll be on the next slide. I can I'll

[1:25:58] talk through that with you. Uh but

[1:26:00] upcoming budget meetings uh so the

[1:26:03] general council workshops where they'll

[1:26:04] hear from the various departments will

[1:26:06] be on October 22nd and 26. We don't know

[1:26:09] who will present when yet. Uh October

[1:26:12] 28th will be dedicated to just read some

[1:26:15] fees. Uh early November will be the

[1:26:19] opportunity for council to ask

[1:26:21] departments questions and hopefully we

[1:26:23] can answer them as much as we can on

[1:26:25] site. and then for uh council to talk

[1:26:28] about whether they want to have any sort

[1:26:29] of priorities. Uh we have been given a

[1:26:32] direction like I had mentioned

[1:26:33] previously that the council wants to see

[1:26:36] a zerobased budget. So uh nobody unless

[1:26:39] you cover it with increase in revenues

[1:26:41] or revenue to offset expenses. uh nobody

[1:26:44] should be presenting really any new

[1:26:47] budget other than stabilizing where we

[1:26:49] were this this current fiscal year uh

[1:26:52] for 2027 and for 2028 right now. Uh then

[1:26:57] following November 5th,

[1:26:59] >> I'm sorry. Is that

[1:27:01] >> all department?

[1:27:02] >> All departments. Yeah.

[1:27:03] >> Yeah. And because we're we already run

[1:27:06] on a pretty tight budget in parks, uh we

[1:27:10] haven't necessarily been asked to look

[1:27:12] at making cuts as much as other

[1:27:14] departments have. So there's some

[1:27:16] departments that are doing some some

[1:27:18] consolidation um with some with some

[1:27:22] positions but also looking at instead of

[1:27:24] contracting out some services um trying

[1:27:27] to provide that in-house and save some

[1:27:29] money uh that way. So uh there's

[1:27:32] definitely a lot of lot of work that's

[1:27:34] being done behind the scenes.

[1:27:37] A quick question on you mentioned Gold

[1:27:39] Mountain and potential fee items. Are we

[1:27:41] talking greens fees and um rental of the

[1:27:44] facility for like what?

[1:27:46] >> Yeah, primarily greens fees. Okay.

[1:27:48] >> And so what we have listed within our

[1:27:51] fees and structures is a not to exceed

[1:27:53] rate because we run uh Gold Mountain um

[1:27:58] we have a dynamic pricing system. And so

[1:28:01] if you want to go and play, let's say at

[1:28:02] prime time at 9:00 am, you're probably

[1:28:04] going to pay what's listed as the peak.

[1:28:07] Um, but if you want to go play at 3 pm,

[1:28:09] you're going to be paying much less.

[1:28:11] >> Um, so like I said, the dynamic pricing

[1:28:14] and the not to exceed is what the not to

[1:28:16] exceed is what we is what we put in as

[1:28:19] our budget request for increases each

[1:28:22] year.

[1:28:22] >> And the other thing I just want to say,

[1:28:24] I mean, it makes sense. We're cascade

[1:28:26] course is being improved

[1:28:28] >> and we have just a be those are just

[1:28:31] beautiful courses out there that are

[1:28:33] just highly soughta and draw people from

[1:28:36] all over our state to come.

[1:28:38] >> And even Cascade right now has a certain

[1:28:40] pricing structure and once it's

[1:28:41] completed that'll change.

[1:28:42] >> Yeah. The fees are competitive and I

[1:28:45] hear no complaint. I I personally don't

[1:28:48] golf but I have a lot of friends that do

[1:28:50] and they just rave about golf.

[1:28:52] >> Oh yeah.

[1:28:53] >> Yeah. I mean, and I've started playing a

[1:28:55] lot of different courses around the

[1:28:56] area, and there's some that, especially

[1:28:59] 12 months a year, I feel like ours are

[1:29:01] in way better shape, and I'm paying, you

[1:29:04] know, $30, $40 more to play somewhere

[1:29:06] else.

[1:29:07] >> Uh, when really we're probably the one

[1:29:10] of the best deals. And I know council

[1:29:12] looks at that and says, "Okay, well,

[1:29:13] let's charge more." But at the same

[1:29:15] time, we still want to function as a

[1:29:17] municipal course. Um when you want to

[1:29:19] grow you want to grow partly

[1:29:23] participation there hopefully you want

[1:29:25] to keep

[1:29:25] >> yeah and there's some some other things

[1:29:27] and maybe this next year uh because with

[1:29:30] Cascade uh that project starting to move

[1:29:32] forward I also had a meeting today where

[1:29:35] we're looking at redesigning the

[1:29:37] practice facility

[1:29:40] um uh modernizing things but then also

[1:29:43] making it more interactive and and

[1:29:46] entertaining entertainment type value to

[1:29:49] that space. Um, so bringing things in

[1:29:52] like fire pits, cornhole, uh, other

[1:29:55] things that will entice people to come

[1:29:57] out and hang out. U, maybe a small venue

[1:29:59] where someone could perform as well. So,

[1:30:03] incorporate some of these things in, but

[1:30:04] also with our driving range, um maybe

[1:30:07] not make it quite the top golf or a

[1:30:09] virtual golf, but bring in um the

[1:30:14] ability for someone to be able to use uh

[1:30:17] the track tracer and see how far they're

[1:30:20] actually hitting as opposed to looking.

[1:30:22] So, bring some of that technology in

[1:30:24] without going to the extent that that

[1:30:27] some of those entertainment venues go

[1:30:29] to. So cool stuff.

[1:30:32] >> I have to admit I'm ignorant on I didn't

[1:30:36] know I knew you could make reservation

[1:30:37] times, but I didn't know you paid for

[1:30:40] specific times and you paid you paid

[1:30:43] more at a better time.

[1:30:45] >> Y

[1:30:45] >> Oh, okay.

[1:30:46] >> Y

[1:30:47] >> and and people are willing to pay.

[1:30:50] >> Absolutely.

[1:30:51] >> Convenience

[1:30:54] for convenience. I knew that you could

[1:30:56] make a reservation, but I know my

[1:30:59] neighbor who is leaving at six o'clock

[1:31:01] in the morning to go golfing on the

[1:31:03] weekends is probably going

[1:31:07] dark.

[1:31:07] >> Yeah.

[1:31:08] >> Okay. All right. Thanks.

[1:31:10] >> Yeah. Usually the first tea times,

[1:31:11] especially if you're fall, winter,

[1:31:13] spring, they hold it off a little bit

[1:31:15] because they do uh but usually your

[1:31:18] first tea times are between 6:30 and

[1:31:20] 6:45 in the morning.

[1:31:23] >> The early birds.

[1:31:24] >> Yes. Yes.

[1:31:26] >> So, um the the main public hearings uh

[1:31:29] in front of council. So, that'll give

[1:31:31] the opportunity for the the public after

[1:31:33] it's published uh after the budget's

[1:31:36] published um for comments. Uh but

[1:31:39] November 11th and 18th will be those

[1:31:41] public hearings. Um these are just kind

[1:31:43] of estimates for now. council could act

[1:31:45] could end up delaying this if they want

[1:31:47] to deliberate more, but um prior to but

[1:31:50] the plan is is to be able to get it uh

[1:31:53] forwarded on um public hearings be the

[1:31:56] 11th and 18th with the adoption on

[1:31:58] November 18th

[1:32:01] um is what's planned for for right now.

[1:32:04] So, as far as um what can the commission

[1:32:07] do to help support um I'll kind of keep

[1:32:10] you in the loop on that. Um, I'll let

[1:32:13] you know when I plan to present. Um,

[1:32:16] there's not necessarily any public

[1:32:18] feedback during that time frame. Um, I

[1:32:20] will be bringing the golf course for the

[1:32:22] rates and fees just because that's where

[1:32:24] we're really focusing. So then Columbia

[1:32:26] Hospitality as the professionals uh can

[1:32:29] explain their reasoning and and looking

[1:32:32] at why they chose the price structure uh

[1:32:35] to present uh for this next year. Um

[1:32:38] probably more of the public hearings if

[1:32:40] it does seem like we need some support

[1:32:42] or want some support or if you'd like to

[1:32:45] provide support that's probably the best

[1:32:46] time frame uh would be uh for the public

[1:32:49] hearings if you wanted to get up and

[1:32:51] you'll share that with us.

[1:32:52] >> I'll definitely share that. Yeah.

[1:32:54] >> Yeah.

[1:32:56] So between now and early October,

[1:32:59] this is really kind of the time frame

[1:33:00] that that finance department is kind of

[1:33:03] compiling everything, starting to meet

[1:33:05] with the mayor this next week, I

[1:33:07] believe, and walking through uh the

[1:33:10] anticipated budget before it goes to

[1:33:12] council for council to have a good look

[1:33:14] at it for a a good month or so before um

[1:33:18] our presentation start in mid to late

[1:33:20] October.

[1:33:26] That's all I got.

[1:33:27] >> Money. That's all.

[1:33:28] >> Oh, I forgot to share this.

[1:33:31] >> Yeah, she kind of wanted to talk more.

[1:33:32] >> Oh, yeah.

[1:33:33] >> So, this is Was this in your packet?

[1:33:36] >> I can't remember.

[1:33:37] >> You know, I don't

[1:33:38] >> I'm not I can send it out to you. I may

[1:33:41] have not put it in there.

[1:33:43] >> It may have just been this slide.

[1:33:46] >> Yes.

[1:33:46] >> Or maybe you didn't get it. You might

[1:33:48] not have gotten anything in in the

[1:33:50] packet. Um but I'll get this to you. So,

[1:33:53] this is our five six-year capital plan.

[1:33:56] Obviously, 2026 is what we're

[1:33:58] anticipating spending this year. And

[1:34:00] then 2027,

[1:34:03] um these are the pro those are all the

[1:34:06] projects. We about 2 almost $3 million

[1:34:10] worth of projects is what we're looking

[1:34:11] at. A lot of those are grant funded. Um

[1:34:14] so, the first one, the 160,000, we I

[1:34:17] think we've talked about that. Those are

[1:34:20] that's the community development block

[1:34:22] grant funds. And so we'll be using that

[1:34:25] for um just some general improvements

[1:34:27] within the park system.

[1:34:30] >> And that excuse me if I can that is

[1:34:33] Breton.

[1:34:36] >> It's community development block grants

[1:34:37] that Breton partners with the county on.

[1:34:41] Uh but it's Breton. It's Breton.

[1:34:44] >> Well, it's Breton has its own fund.

[1:34:46] >> It's Breton. Breton has a 10 and then there's

[1:34:50] >> Breton.

[1:34:52] Yes. Okay.

[1:34:53] >> Yeah. Yeah. So, Breton

[1:34:55] >> and then we have 30,000 in there for um

[1:34:58] kind of getting that master plan started

[1:35:00] for Forest Ridge Park.

[1:35:03] Um some of these like the the 30,000

[1:35:06] there, we don't necessarily have a

[1:35:07] matching grant right now or a grant for

[1:35:10] that. So that's coming out of our

[1:35:13] proposals for that to come out of I

[1:35:15] think parks capital for that one.

[1:35:19] Uh Lions Park accessibility retrofit was

[1:35:22] kind of talked about that and and uh

[1:35:25] that's become quite a a large larger

[1:35:28] project than we thought it would be and

[1:35:29] that's improving accessibility at those

[1:35:32] ports um and uh removing those slopes.

[1:35:35] but it's also going to cause us to put

[1:35:37] new fencing up and and basically level

[1:35:40] everything out there. Uh park security

[1:35:42] cameras. So between 27 and 28, we're

[1:35:45] looking at making improvements within

[1:35:46] our parks and adding security cameras.

[1:35:49] This isn't to monitor people, but this

[1:35:52] is in case something happens. So in the

[1:35:55] areas that we tend to have more

[1:35:56] vandalism, theft, uh we'll be putting

[1:35:59] some cameras in uh is the plan there. Um

[1:36:03] the tree assessment and imple

[1:36:05] implementation. You can see that's a

[1:36:07] budget every year. That's kind of a if

[1:36:09] we need to have a master plan or a a

[1:36:12] forestry a forest um urban forestry type

[1:36:16] plan created for certain areas, uh we

[1:36:18] want to all lot money within our general

[1:36:20] fund account to to take care of those

[1:36:24] types of projects.

[1:36:26] uh the Pender

[1:36:27] Regional Park uh turf fields, the 150

[1:36:31] for this year, that's for the 90%

[1:36:34] drawings to be completed. The 2 million

[1:36:37] and the 2.3 million between 27 and 28

[1:36:40] would be the development of those two uh

[1:36:43] turf field projects. And so the 2

[1:36:46] million and 27 would be 500,000 from

[1:36:48] city funds and then 1.5 million from a

[1:36:52] recreation conservation

[1:36:54] um grant that we've applied for and then

[1:36:57] the 2.3 actually the two 200 2 million

[1:37:01] of the 2.3 would um be coming from a

[1:37:05] private source as a partner for that

[1:37:07] project uh that we've been working with.

[1:37:10] and 300,000 uh would be coming from our

[1:37:14] uh our general fund account to round off

[1:37:16] that 2.3. Uh the 150,000 for softball

[1:37:22] field improvements. Uh that's to um

[1:37:26] remove and replace some of the infield

[1:37:28] material on our three ball fields up

[1:37:31] there. uh get a u a much better user

[1:37:35] friendly um um type of material in there

[1:37:39] that can also um hold in um not hold in

[1:37:44] but let drain through uh rain when it

[1:37:47] comes in but it's just much better

[1:37:49] playing facility and and nonrock

[1:37:52] generating

[1:37:53] um surface as well. uh Stephenson Canyon

[1:37:56] as you know the the 285 there uh from

[1:38:00] Department of Commerce grant and then we

[1:38:02] just kind of have a standing item here

[1:38:04] for other parks facilities capital

[1:38:06] improvements that's in case during the

[1:38:08] year we have something that needs to be

[1:38:11] addressed we have uh a budget that's

[1:38:14] sitting out there within the general

[1:38:16] fund to fund those types of projects.

[1:38:22] » Yeah, I'll be happy to get get this to

[1:38:24] you. So then you've got it. I actually

[1:38:26] have a Excel spreadsheet that if you

[1:38:28] click on each of the number, it'll tell

[1:38:30] you what the for funding sources are too

[1:38:33] that we've identified for that. And so

[1:38:35] that that form has the expense, but then

[1:38:39] also has a revenue uh area as well. So

[1:38:42] it's easier to read that way.

[1:38:45] >> Thanks, Tim.

[1:38:46] >> Yeah, great.

[1:38:49] >> I talked a lot.

[1:38:52] Anyone have any questions or comments?

[1:38:55] No. All right. Now, we're going to move

[1:38:57] on to commissioner's comments. Dave,

[1:39:00] we'll start with you. You're right here.

[1:39:02] No. Nothing.

[1:39:03] >> Nothing.

[1:39:04] >> Director, I had a quick question. I

[1:39:06] don't I'm not sure if it's been talked

[1:39:07] about this commissioner or not. Could

[1:39:09] you tell us what's going on down at on

[1:39:12] street where our mini park is because

[1:39:14] it's destroyed

[1:39:18] » at the mini park or just Ninth Street

[1:39:20] and

[1:39:20] >> at the mini park? Yeah. So, so this is

[1:39:23] all a public works project.

[1:39:25] >> Okay.

[1:39:26] >> I feel like we did talk about this

[1:39:27] maybe.

[1:39:28] >> Yeah, we we looked at it last year.

[1:39:31] >> Yeah.

[1:39:31] >> At one point. Um I think even someone

[1:39:33] from public works came in and presented

[1:39:36] um and showed talked about it. It's

[1:39:38] essentially um

[1:39:41] making storm water improvements within

[1:39:43] that area of Manette. And then I can't

[1:39:46] remember if it's an outflow is what they

[1:39:48] call it, but essentially it's going

[1:39:49] through a system before it enters into

[1:39:52] the sound.

[1:39:53] >> Okay.

[1:39:53] >> And so with that um it's tearing up that

[1:39:57] park and so there'll be improvements

[1:39:59] that are going to be made. So we've got

[1:40:00] some trees that are going to be removed

[1:40:02] because of issues we're having with Rick

[1:40:04] systems.

[1:40:05] >> So there'll be Yeah, they'll be re

[1:40:08] replanting.

[1:40:10] >> Um if you're interested, I've got I got

[1:40:12] full plans in my office. Um, but

[1:40:15] essentially what's going back is we'll

[1:40:16] have a accessible parking stall, four

[1:40:20] regular stalls adjacent to it, um, a

[1:40:24] doggy pot bag, a garbage can, and two

[1:40:27] picnic tables. Uh, the other thing

[1:40:29] that's going to be a part of this

[1:40:31] improvement is,

[1:40:33] um, going from the grass area down to

[1:40:36] the beach area is going to be more

[1:40:38] gradual and easier to access. Yeah, cuz

[1:40:41] it

[1:40:41] >> won't be fully accessible, but it'll be

[1:40:44] much easier than it was

[1:40:45] >> to access.

[1:40:46] >> Have you seen it? Cuz we haven't been

[1:40:47] able to get down.

[1:40:48] >> I just drove by it before this meeting

[1:40:50] and it is

[1:40:52] >> you got to swim from downtown.

[1:40:53] >> Okay. I was going to say

[1:40:54] >> it is. Yeah. That big tree.

[1:40:57] >> I don't know what kind of tree it was,

[1:40:59] but there forever. I know the root

[1:41:00] system is crazy.

[1:41:02] >> Yeah. And if you have seen anything

[1:41:04] posted lately on social media, um the

[1:41:09] work that's being done right now on the

[1:41:11] beach area in Smith Cove is tied to

[1:41:14] that. This is the environmental

[1:41:15] remediation side of it. Okay.

[1:41:17] >> Um so there's a removal of rock debris.

[1:41:21] Um

[1:41:22] >> Brian can speak to a little bit further

[1:41:24] if he wants, but over the next couple

[1:41:26] weeks, we put a post out today to let

[1:41:29] people be aware of what's going on over

[1:41:31] there. So, it's a public works

[1:41:33] operation. It's a Department of Ecology

[1:41:36] grant and it's for storm water

[1:41:38] improvement. And so,

[1:41:40] >> uh off of Nin Street there, it's a water

[1:41:44] quality. It's being able to treat the

[1:41:45] water before it gets sent out into the

[1:41:47] south.

[1:41:48] >> Okay.

[1:41:48] >> With that, uh there's some mitigation

[1:41:51] that needs to happen. uh down in Smith

[1:41:54] Cove at uh Evergreen Park, there's a lot

[1:41:57] of angular rock that was put there

[1:42:00] decades and decades ago that has kind of

[1:42:02] migrated down into the cove. As part of

[1:42:06] that, uh there that same contractor

[1:42:08] that's on Ninth Street is also doing the

[1:42:10] work removing those rocks and pull them

[1:42:13] out. So, there's a disturbance to both

[1:42:16] parks at the time.

[1:42:17] >> Yeah. Uh we're hoping to wrap up the

[1:42:20] evergreen word uh within about the next

[1:42:24] week, week and a half,

[1:42:27] >> but then when it's all done, our park

[1:42:28] will be restored. And

[1:42:30] >> yes, it is.

[1:42:32] >> All right.

[1:42:33] >> Conviction.

[1:42:34] >> It's a public It's a public project. Got

[1:42:37] it. To be clear on that. One other one

[1:42:40] that uh once we get the design plans and

[1:42:44] work further is we're working with the

[1:42:45] East Breton Rotary to make some

[1:42:47] improvements to Bachmann Park as well.

[1:42:50] >> Um so they have already come out and

[1:42:51] done some some cleanup work button.

[1:42:55] >> Yeah, East Breton Rotary and we powered

[1:42:59] >> there's no expense to us for that and so

[1:43:02] it's not listed as a capital

[1:43:03] improvement. Thank you.

[1:43:04] >> Um but but there are items within the

[1:43:07] pros plan for Bachmann that we hope to

[1:43:09] address at some point.

[1:43:11] >> Perfect. Thank you.

[1:43:13] >> All right, Alex. Nothing for me.

[1:43:17] >> You had a wonderful presentation.

[1:43:20] >> Thank you so much.

[1:43:21] >> All right, Joan. I've got

[1:43:23] >> Last but not least,

[1:43:24] >> I've got nothing. All right. I don't

[1:43:26] have anything either.

[1:43:28] So, meeting ajourned.

[1:43:31] Brett Kylie usually leaves us with some

[1:43:34] words of wisdom or a poem or

[1:43:40] » something.

[1:43:41] >> Nobody told me that was part of the

[1:43:42] deal. So, you're just gonna have to go

[1:43:44] without this this month.

[1:43:48] » We'll make something up.

[1:43:51] >> Thank you for joining us tonight. I

[1:43:53] appreciate it.

[1:43:54] >> Yeah. You all have a nice evening.

[1:43:56] >> All right. Thank you.

[1:43:57] >> Bye.

[1:43:58] >> All right. You guys are getting

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