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We are live.
>> Okay.
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Hello everyone and welcome to the
Citizens Participation Committee meeting
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for September 9th, 2026.
Uh we're going to go ahead and start off
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by uh doing a quick roll call so that I
make sure that I have a record of
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everyone who's here.
Um so I'll go ahead and call your name
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and you can just let me know that uh you
are indeed here. So Steve Klevenger.
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» Present.
>> Stewart Frescas.
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» Present.
>> Gene Croshan.
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» Here.
>> And Lynn Nelson.
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» Here.
>> All right. Is there anybody else that I
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missed that I'm not seeing online?
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Okay, it doesn't appear that there's
anyone else that's joined us yet. So
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we'll go ahead and get started with the
program. So the first item is to approve
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minutes
from our previous meeting. Uh so I'd
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start by entertaining a motion
to approve those minutes unless there
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are any questions or corrections. Yeah,
okay, thank you Lynn.
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So we have a motion for approval from
Lynn and a second from Steve. Uh so
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we'll go ahead and do a roll call vote.
Uh Steve Klevenger.
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» Yes.
>> Stewart Frescas.
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» Yes.
>> Gene Croshan.
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» Yes.
>> And Lynn Nelson.
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» Yes.
>> All right. Uh the motion carries. The
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minutes are approved.
So now we're going to go ahead and get
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into some of the items that we have to
bring to you tonight.
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So the first one is um
regarding the Northern Corridor
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Connection Study
or the US 231 study. Um so this is
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something that we try to give you guys a
quarterly update on.
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So I always like to start with just
setting the background information for
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this and reminding everyone that
as of right now, INDOT has not yet
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committed to any kind of a project. So
it is still uncertain if one will happen
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or not. It is also possible that if a
project does happen, it will not be
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officially US 231. It could be a
connector road under local control. So
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that's why we do refer to that project
as the northern corridor connection.
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So sometimes that can be confusing for
people because I think most people do
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think of it as US 231, but just to kind
of keep everything straight, we do call
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it officially the northern corridor
connection.
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I will also mention that no official
routes have been determined. Anything
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that you see on a map is just a
conceptual placeholder. Before any final
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determination of
alignment would be made,
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you need to do extensive engineering
work and public outreach. So for
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example, what I have shown here is from
our Wabash Township plan. And
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what that shows again is just
conceptual. And before anything would be
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finalized,
there has to be a lot of work that has
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yet to be done. So just want to keep
that in mind as we
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continue on with our discussion. So the
process for this
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is phase one, which is a white paper,
which will determine all the work that
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must be completed before a project can
begin, before anything can start. And
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then after that, there needs to be a
full engineering study. The exact type
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and scope of that study is not yet
known. It will be determined by the
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white paper.
The reason for that is that there are
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several different potential
types of studies you can use for a
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transportation project and we want to
get the best match for our specific
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situation.
And in order to do that, we need to do
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some kind of background work, which will
happen in phase one.
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Uh so phase three, uh which I have
marked as a question mark, uh is project
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development construction. So there are
several challenges that would have to be
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overcome before this happens. Um
coordination with different
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jurisdictions, um finding funding for
that project, which would probably be
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the biggest hurdle, um as well as a lot
of other work that would have to be
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done. Um so if all those challenges can
be overcome, the project would likely be
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constructed in multiple phases and it
would take many, many years to complete.
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So this isn't something that's going to
be happening tomorrow
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uh or next month or next year. It'll
still be a few years down the road, at
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least.
So this is kind of where the update
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portion really comes in. So where are we
in the process?
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Um so we're kind of still just before
phase one. We have posted an RFP
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um and we are expecting to receive some
proposals for that from some engineering
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firms. Proposals are due on September
21st, so coming up here in just a couple
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weeks.
Um we have kind of in preparation for
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that assembled a scoring committee. Um
so this committee scoring committee will
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have representatives from APC, the
county, West Lafayette, and Lafayette.
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Um each member will receive a copy of
each proposal that we receive and they
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will give them a score from zero to 100
points based on some metrics that were
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published in our RFP. Um and then we
will aggregate those scores um and the
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consulting firm with the best total
score will be awarded the project.
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Um so we're kind of getting ready for
that. We have a pre-meeting scheduled
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next week to go over that with all our
members of the selection committee to
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make sure that everyone
understands
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what the scoring criteria are and all
those kinds of things.
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Um so that's where we are right now and
I wanted to kind of give a little
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preview for our next meeting. So by the
next meeting
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that we have in 3 months, we will know
which firm has been selected to perform
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this work and it's possible that there
will be a little bit of work completed
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or starting.
So we might have something to share. I'm
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not 100% sure where we'll be in the
process at that point. It kind of
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depends on
how fast of a start the
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selected firm is is able to get on the
project. Um but within the next couple
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meetings we should have some more
significant updates and and be reaching
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out to people with uh
opportunities for feedback.
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Um so kind of as usual, I also want to
make sure that everyone knows where they
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can get updates on this. Certainly by
coming to this committee meeting, that's
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one place to get updates.
We are also posting updates on the APC
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website, which I have listed on this
slide. Um additionally, the local media
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often picks up on some of this type of
stuff. Um
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so you should be able to see some of
that in your favorite local media
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source.
Um are there any questions about this?
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» Sounds like a good start.
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» Yes, thank you. We We think so too so
far, so
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hopefully we'll be able to get off the
ground and running and we'll be able to
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get some really good public feedback on
this and
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see what we need to do or or maybe not
do.
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» Okay. Uh so it sounds like there's no
other questions or comments. Um unless
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Arya, was there anything that we got
from our streams on Facebook or YouTube?
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» Let me see. No public comment on
Facebook or YouTube at this time.
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» Okay, thank you.
Um so we'll go ahead then and move on to
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our next item, which is the uh
pedestrian bicycle
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crash or the pedestrian crash analysis,
rather.
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Um so this is a report uh that we
recently completed and posted um
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on our website. We do have a link in the
packet to this. Uh if you're interested
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in going through the full report, um it
is long enough that I'm not going to
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necessarily be going through everything.
I'm just going to kind of hit some of
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the highlights, and then we'll take
questions at the end.
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So I'm going to go ahead and start right
here
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uh with some of the the key findings
from this report. Um and what I really
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want to highlight is that first of all,
less than 1% of all crashes in
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Tippecanoe County involve a pedestrian.
So this isn't necessarily a frequent
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occurrence among our crashes,
but unfortunately, it is a potentially
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very harmful one. Because when a
pedestrian crash does occur, um
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pedestrians do sustain an injury 85.9%
of the time when involved in a crash,
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which obviously is not great. That's a
very high percentage um of injury, so
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um and sometimes it's actually even
worse, of course. Um fortunately, there
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have been eight fatalities um in the
period that this report considers, which
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was 2018 to 2022.
Um so over that period, you know, eight
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fatalities is eight more than we would
like to see.
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Um but unfortunately, they do happen.
So kind of going on to some of the
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high-level summary data, I'm skipping
over a little bit here, but
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Uh so we have on page five of the report
kind of just some general overview of
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what we're seeing in crashes.
So table one and figure one kind of are
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displaying the same data in different
ways. We often like to do this in our
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reports where some
people are able to process the data a
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little bit better in tabular form,
whereas other people are a little more
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visual and might prefer a graphic.
So really what we're seeing is that
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things are fairly consistent across the
five years of this report in terms of
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number of crashes with the exception of
2020 and 2021
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where they take a significant dip and we
believe that the reason for that was
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likely just because of COVID. People
weren't traveling in the same way. It
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really impacted a lot of different data.
So with more people staying at home and
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fewer people
driving and perhaps not as many people
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walking in some of the same areas as
especially the Purdue campus as it would
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have been in other years. We believe
that explains kind of the
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decrease in those years. But other than
that, the number of pedestrian crashes
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has mostly been in the the 30s
from 2018 to 2022 there.
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So skipping ahead a little bit farther
to page 12 in our report. So this is
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where we kind of look at different times
of the day when pedestrian crashes might
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occur.
And I think this is probably about what
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you would kind of expect to see from
this sort of data. Early in the morning,
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you know, 12:00 a.m. you will get a few
crashes that do happen. Those are you
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know, perhaps people
walking out around after a late night of
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activities, but not too many. And then
there is a significant peak in the
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morning between 7:00 and 8:00 a.m. as
well as kind of an afternoon/evening
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peak period there sort of between 3:00
p.m. and 8:00 p.m. with a little bit of
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fluctuation there. Um when you get
people going out around dinner time,
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after work, uh
taking a walk, that kind of thing.
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Um but even other than that, uh
throughout the daytime hours, there are
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still several crashes.
Um and some of those, of course, are on
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the Purdue University campus,
um which we will get into a little more
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later.
Uh but moving ahead to page 18 of the
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report.
So, this shows um the location of
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injury, incapacitating injury, and
fatality crashes.
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So, I mentioned earlier that there's a
very high chance that if someone is
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involved in a pedestrian crash,
that it will at least be an injury, if
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not worse.
So, the way to read this map, uh figure
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11 here that I'm showing, is the larger
the size of the dot on the map, uh the
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more severe the crash is.
So, if we look down at the legend here,
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the large orange dots are the
fatalities. Incapacitating injuries are
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kind of I think that's olive green, I'll
call that color.
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Uh and then injuries are blue. Um and
then the the smallest one are pedestrian
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crashes with no injury, which there
aren't very many of.
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Uh moving ahead to pages 29 to 35.
Uh so, we have here a series of
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different maps once I get down to them,
uh which kind of show some differences
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uh in where the crashes are actually
located.
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Um so, I think again, this is pretty
intuitive as to what you would expect.
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This first figure kind of shows that
most of them are within the city limits
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um of Lafayette or West Lafayette. Uh
there are certainly a few outside of the
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city limits, out in the county. Um and
some of those that are out in the county
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uh are often along state roads or uh
busier area busier uh county roads with
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higher traffic.
Um and unfortunately some of those that
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are out in the more rural areas are some
of our more severe ones,
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uh which is unfortunate.
Um so if we go to figure 17, which is on
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the next page, so this kind of shows
where they're occurring in Lafayette. Um
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so there are of course several that
occur in the downtown and near downtown
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area. And then other than that, you can
kind of look along some of the major
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corridors and you see uh perhaps like
9th Street, 18th Street for instance,
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that there are kind of some along those
north-south routes for example, um as
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well as several others.
Uh similarly, we also have
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a map for West Lafayette.
And again, as you would expect, most of
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these are
uh concentrated in the campus or near
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campus area.
Um there are a few up by Salisbury
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Street,
uh kind of a little farther north in
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West Lafayette as well. Uh some near US
52/Sagamore Parkway, special 52,
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whatever you want to call that road,
as well.
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Um and then we do also have a specific
map just for the Purdue University area
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as well. Um so I kind of highlight those
to say that, you know, if you want to go
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back and look at those later, um if
there is an area um you're particularly
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interested in, I would suggest doing
that. There's a lot of good information
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in this report. Uh and I think that
those particular maps uh that I just
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went through are probably
a pretty good starting point um to look
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at.
So moving on to kind of some of the next
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stuff, so on page 37, so what this is is
this is pedestrian crashes by specific
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location. So
with vehicle crashes, they're almost
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always on a road or in a parking lot, um
but unfortunately, pedestrians can be
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hit in other places such as driveways,
uh along the shoulder of the road, um
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sometimes even when they're along a
sidewalk, or in an alley,
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etc.
So, by far the most common one you'll
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see there is the the blue dots, which
are
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when there are pedestrians crossing in
an intersection. That's by far the most
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dangerous spot for a pedestrian and
where you'll see the largest number.
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But, there are several other
places where pedestrian crashes can
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occur. And some of that is shown in this
map. There's also, of course, some
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explanation and analysis in the text
about that as well that I think is good
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reading for those that are interested.
So, then I'd like to go ahead and
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» Quick question.
>> Yep, go ahead.
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» What What is I mean, I understand you've
got sidewalk and you've got um
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the shoulder. What does road mean?
>> Yes. So, road I'm going to go back here.
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it was this one. Yeah. I think Yes.
So, road is when someone was maybe like
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walking by the side of the road or they
weren't in like a marked crosswalk
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or um
>> Jaywalking?
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» in an intersection. Yeah, so it could be
like a mid-block jaywalking, yes. Um I
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think I'm actually on the wrong map. It
was this one I was looking at. Um
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yeah, so something along those lines.
Um
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yeah.
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So, the the green ones there. And then
sometimes there are
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just kind of some unusual circumstances
where maybe someone had
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just gotten out of a a parked car and
or something like that and someone
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didn't see him. It could be So, road is
a little bit of a the broadest category.
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When So, this information is taken from
officers' crash reports.
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Um and they do only have certain
categories they can select from. So,
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sometimes road is used as kind of a
catch-all category.
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» Got you. Thank you.
>> Yeah, good question, Steve.
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Okay. So, then the last thing I wanted
to highlight
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was this, which is the last page of the
report, the initial recommendations
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page. Um so, we're recommending to
continue to discuss these findings with
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local government engineers and law
enforcement. Uh
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which will hopefully ultimately lead to
identifying potential safety projects.
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Um and then similarly discuss some of
this information with the Indiana
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Department of Transportation.
Same idea working with them to develop
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potential improvement projects.
Uh we'd also like to take this to the
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West Lafayette and Lafayette Bicycle and
Pedestrian Citizen Committees that they
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have.
Um and as a staff, we often do a lot of
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additional analysis.
So, we're going to continue to to do
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some crash analysis work on this as
well. This isn't the only work we're
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doing on bicycle and pedestrian type of
crashes. Um
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So, we do have some more work in the the
pipeline to do to continue to analyze
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this and try to find ways to make our
roads safer for everyone who's trying to
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use them, not just for those that are
traveling in vehicles, but making it
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safer for everyone.
Are there any other questions about this
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report?
>> Any information
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» Go ahead.
>> Um yeah, Stewart Freestone here.
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My gut feeling is that the situ you
know, just as you stated, that the
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situation is not getting worse, you
know, uh and this is as a cyclist, you
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know,
frequent cyclist, that
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you know, things are pretty even and
maybe ever so slightly better than they
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once were. So, that that's just my
comment.
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» Okay, yep. Thank you, Stewart. I would
say that
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the numbers kind of being fairly
consistent other than the
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anomaly that we had because of COVID
does kind of verify that, but we'd
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certainly like to get that down,
especially the
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injury and fatality numbers are what
we'd really like to get down.
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» Is there a reason you stopped in 2022
with the data?
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» Well, when we started working on this
project, that was what was available to
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us.
We will continue to do these
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periodically. So, there will be
a specific deep dive on this.
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Part of the reason
why it's taken a few years for this to
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come out
is that our staff has had some other
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different kinds of crash analysis
they've been working on
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that are kind of more high-level and for
other projects. So, this one got pushed
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a little bit to the back burner just
because of some other priorities.
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» Any information on distracted walking?
People just staring at their cell phones
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and not paying attention.
>> Well, I'm sure that absolutely is
[20:26]
happening. Unfortunately, it's
a Yeah, it's a little hard to get that
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information. The only way we would have
that is if
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the officer would note that in the
narrative section of the crash report.
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And I would imagine that most people are
pretty unwilling to admit if they were,
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you know, texting and walking or
changing their music and walking or you
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know, whatever.
So, I would imagine that any information
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we get would be
kind of under accounting that issue, so
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to speak.
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Other questions?
[21:15]
All right. Well, hearing none, we're
going to go ahead and move on to our
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next item.
Uh so, that is the Wea and Sheffield
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Township plan.
Um so, this is something that our
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current planning staff has been working
on. They are um studying the future for
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the unincorporated areas of Wea and
Sheffield Townships
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uh in the hopes to create a land use
plan that will guide development as it
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occurs in those areas.
Um the draft plan, which is what uh
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I have on the screen there,
has been presented to the public for
[21:46]
comments at two open house events in
July and was also posted on our website
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uh through the end of August for
comment. Um so, the public comment
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period has wrapped up.
Um there is a steering committee that
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was formed as part of this plan. Um
they're reviewing the draft for any
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additional edits.
Uh the plan is for APC staff to present
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this uh whatever the the final version
of the plan is with those edits
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um to the Area Plan Commission at their
meeting on October 21st.
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Uh and then, assuming that that
goes through, then the County
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Commissioners will be voting to adopt it
at their November meeting.
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Um so, briefly, just kind of want to go
through some of what's in this plan at a
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very high level
um by looking at the table of contents.
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So, there is kind of an introduction.
Um there is so, profiles. What that
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means is that's kind of the current
situation.
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Um so, and then it gives some
information. So, I'm kind of scrolling
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through this pretty quickly, but it
gives some information
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um just about what the current situation
is
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uh in terms of zoning uh as well as
condition of existing structures,
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building occupancy, um information about
historic structures, uh uh, those types
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of things.
Um we have a a list there of historic
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properties that you see.
Uh, we have uh, information about trails
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and parks, those kinds of things.
Um, so there is a lot of good stuff in
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here. I know I'm going through this very
quickly. This isn't intended to be a
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full
explanation of this. Uh, then goals,
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objectives, and strategies kind of talks
about, uh,
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what we'd like to do. So, we gathered a
lot of these
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uh,
five goals here, uh, based on some of
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the public input sessions we had uh,
with input as well from our steering
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committee.
And then based on that, we have some
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recommendation for, uh, transportation
improvements in chapter four
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as well as,
uh, suggested land uses.
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Which I'm trying to scroll down to.
Yeah, chapter five, uh, future land
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uses, I guess is what we called it. Um,
so this kind of will help
[23:53]
guide us, uh, when there are properties
that come up for potential re-zones or
[23:57]
projects. One of the thing our staff
things our staff always looks at when
[24:02]
we're representing,
uh, things to the the plan commission,
[24:06]
um, and giving a recommendation,
is we look at the comprehensive plan.
[24:10]
And because it'd been a while since we,
uh, in Sheffield Townships have been
[24:13]
looked at, uh, we felt that that needed
to get updated. So, that's, uh, a lot of
[24:18]
the impetus for this plan. So, there's a
lot of good information in here as well
[24:22]
as some documentation of the public
comments we received in the appendices,
[24:27]
uh, here in chapter six.
Which again, I'm not going to go through
[24:30]
all this, um, but I just wanted to let
everyone know
[24:33]
that it is available. So, if you want to
go over this, uh, and look through it
[24:37]
for specific questions on your own time,
uh, that's great. And like I said,
[24:42]
October 21st, uh, is the date where it's
supposed to go to the plan commission.
[24:47]
So, I would encourage you, um, if that's
something you're interested in,
[24:51]
to be present at that, uh, meeting on on
21st and to, come prepared with any
[24:57]
comments you have.
I think that would would be great for
[25:01]
our staff. So, any questions about this?
[25:15]
Okay, I'm not hearing any, so I'm going
to go ahead and move on to our next
[25:19]
agenda item, which is the public
participation plan. And I'm actually
[25:23]
going to turn it over to Arya, who's
going to let us know where we're at with
[25:26]
that. So,
[25:30]
» Yeah.
Let me get my screen sharing figured
[25:34]
out. It's
[25:38]
might have to disable yours first.
[25:45]
Oh.
[25:52]
Okay, so hopefully you can see my screen
here.
[25:55]
So, the public participation plan
uh
[25:59]
was something we brought up at our
previous
[26:02]
CBC meeting.
And at that time we kind of gave you an
[26:05]
overview of what it was, what we were
doing with it.
[26:08]
And now we have a first draft.
And the public comment period for it is
[26:13]
open. So, on our website you can find
the draft.
[26:17]
We're taking public comment on it
through various means, including this
[26:20]
committee.
Um but you know, email, call,
[26:24]
uh
I guess post on our social media.
[26:27]
Oh, it feels weird to say that. Anyway,
so I'll just kind of reintroduce this
[26:32]
really briefly. So, the public
participation plan kind of guides
[26:37]
how we interact with the public, and how
we
[26:40]
uh
gather pub- public information, uh
[26:43]
particularly how we do our outreach.
So, this document is a document we've
[26:49]
had since I think it's 2017.
We made significant updates to it in
[26:53]
2021.
And now here we are again, you know,
[26:57]
about 5 years later, 2026, updates
again. So,
[27:01]
uh we need to constantly
uh refine our processes and, you know,
[27:06]
pay attention to what we're hearing from
the public as well as
[27:08]
implementing things we've learned. So,
we'll keep updating this plan as we
[27:12]
continue to improve our processes.
So, significant changes from the last
[27:19]
one,
I would say not too many.
[27:23]
Our
2021 plan
[27:26]
uh came out just after COVID. So, it did
include some
[27:31]
changes for, you know, social distancing
and all the
[27:36]
uh challenges we faced during that era.
Um
[27:41]
but generally the methods of public
outreach that we designed in that plan
[27:47]
uh are still applicable today.
And, you know, we haven't
[27:52]
altered those too much.
Uh we have added a few things and I
[27:57]
think crucially for this plan
on the wake of very recent events, we've
[28:03]
um
removed I won't say removed. We've made
[28:07]
it clear what we won't do also. So,
in any case, this document is a little
[28:14]
bit shorter and briefer than previous
document. So, we know the public doesn't
[28:19]
want to read long complicated plans.
We've simplified the language a bit. We
[28:23]
shortened it up.
And we've also included a little bit
[28:26]
more explanatory information about who
uh we are and what we do at APC. And,
[28:35]
you know, you would on the committee
here know, but you know, the public
[28:38]
maybe doesn't know that we are the
metropolitan transportation
[28:41]
organization for our area.
And what we do is kind of
[28:46]
guide transportation funding and how
it's spent on projects. That's our role
[28:50]
here. So, the public feedback that we
can best use are those based on
[28:56]
transportation projects. So, this plan
kind of covers that and hopefully will
[29:01]
make it clear to everybody, you know,
what we can really implement
[29:06]
um
for our office in particular.
[29:10]
So, we introduced ourselves. We talked
about our goals. These specific goals we
[29:15]
worked on before, those haven't really
changed
[29:19]
uh since last plan. You know, these were
based on public comments before. We're
[29:23]
taking public comments again if anybody,
you know, suggests new goals or
[29:28]
improvements to these, but
um
[29:32]
those are the same as before.
And I've listed a number of ways public
[29:37]
can contact us.
Quite a few.
[29:41]
And I think the biggest
change here is I mentioned before. So,
[29:46]
the methods we're using to reach the
public are very similar to before. You
[29:49]
know, we have a variety of methods in
person, digital, print media, and I
[29:54]
pulled out audio this time as well.
Uh it was We did use these methods
[29:59]
before, but I made them more prominent
to note that we have both visual, audio,
[30:04]
and, you know, in-person methods.
Uh but personally,
[30:10]
uh some things direct text message
direct text messages
[30:14]
um we're stating that we won't be using
that outreach method.
[30:19]
And I think direct phone calls also,
yes.
[30:23]
Um you know, there's been some scams
going around recently
[30:28]
involving
uh you know, our office and other
[30:31]
offices, I guess.
So, we just want to make it clear how we
[30:35]
won't reach out to you. You know, if
you're being told things from those
[30:38]
methods, that's not our office.
Uh which isn't just as just as important
[30:43]
as saying how we will reach out, so.
We've changed that.
[30:47]
And
I think word of mouth is also a new
[30:51]
topic.
We didn't explicitly mention word of
[30:53]
mouth outreach before, but
you know, this can be a very good way of
[30:57]
reaching people
um
[31:01]
in the social circles and methods that
already exist that, you know, maybe
[31:06]
social media or
our traditional outreach outreach
[31:09]
methods wouldn't
uh connect with.
[31:15]
And also
that's I mean that's the whole the plan
[31:19]
really is the techniques and methods.
The rest of this is just uh
[31:23]
background information, which I think is
helpful to people who are maybe, you
[31:27]
know, don't know what we do or don't
know exactly what we're asking for or
[31:30]
why. So, I cover the plans that we
create, so like the MTP,
[31:35]
metropolitan met- metropolitan
transportation plan,
[31:38]
transportation improvement plan, and
thoroughfare plan,
[31:41]
this plan, public participation plan.
And we do have other plans as well, but
[31:46]
those are kind of the the primary ones
that you probably have all heard about
[31:49]
before and that we discuss the most in
public.
[31:52]
And I talk about the committees we have,
you know, this is just one of three.
[31:57]
Public is welcome to attend and comment
at all of them. You know, this is just
[32:00]
our kind of public-centric one.
And also some timelines just to give the
[32:05]
public kind of a general expectation.
These are not set in stone. Please don't
[32:10]
Don't quote these.
Um, but you know, generally our office
[32:14]
we know
you know, to an extent what the future
[32:18]
holds and when we need to update plans.
So, let you know when we expect those
[32:23]
uh dates to be ahead of time, I think is
also useful.
[32:28]
So, that's
basically this whole draft. Oh, no, no,
[32:31]
sorry. This is very important. Also,
evaluation. This is, you know, part of
[32:34]
why we're doing this update. We have to
evaluate what we're doing and
[32:38]
uh update it as we learn and and grow.
So, very crucial part of the process.
[32:44]
The rest of this document is just
appendices about, you know, who we
[32:47]
outreach to.
Um,
[32:50]
you know, people that are hard to reach,
very important, some background
[32:54]
demographic data on our community.
And some forms for people that, you
[32:59]
know, would like to kind of
give us feedback in a more formalized
[33:03]
way. Some people appreciate that.
Um,
[33:08]
and
legal requirements,
[33:13]
and just data about our boards and who's
on them currently. So, that's the whole
[33:17]
plan.
It
[33:20]
does look like it's 28 pages, but the
meat of it is just like under 10 pages.
[33:24]
So, you know, please, if you'd like to
comment, it's not hard to read. I made
[33:28]
it hopefully very easy to read. So,
please, you know,
[33:32]
we want to hear from you how you want to
hear from us.
[33:36]
That's all I have. Any questions,
comments?
[33:52]
» Looks good.
>> Wonderful, thank you. Even just that is
[33:57]
helpful to hear, too. You know, if you
don't have any changes to me, just
[34:00]
hearing that this is good, we appreciate
that. You know, it shows that we're
[34:04]
we're doing things right and we want to
keep doing them the correct way. So,
[34:07]
thank you.
[34:13]
And if the community doesn't have any
other comments,
[34:17]
I'm not seeing any on Facebook or
YouTube this time, either.
[34:23]
Okay.
>> Okay.
[34:26]
Uh, well, I guess I'll go ahead and take
it over and uh, kind of wrap this up
[34:30]
here.
Um, so, we have reached the point in our
[34:33]
agenda where we are ready for any
additional questions or comments that we
[34:38]
missed before.
So we'll certainly give the stream a
[34:44]
minute or so to catch up.
But during that time is there anything
[34:48]
else from the committee that you guys
would like to to ask about that we might
[34:52]
have missed earlier?
[34:56]
» Well, nothing about what you've missed
but I've been driving my
[35:00]
grandson over because he's working over
at Purdue and
[35:03]
the distracted distracted pedestrian is
really a thing where
[35:08]
they're you know looking at their phones
and not paying much attention
[35:12]
when they're crossing the streets and
stuff. It's kind of terrifying at times.
[35:19]
» Yeah, definitely is.
An issue especially with you know, we
[35:24]
have so many students now at Purdue is
as far as I know it's the second largest
[35:29]
Big Ten school in terms of enrollment
behind Ohio State. So definitely a lot
[35:33]
of
young people moving around on on campus.
[35:38]
» I know at one time they had crossing
guards for the Purdue students.
[35:42]
For at least a short period of time. I
don't think they still do that but
[35:51]
» Well, during boiler rush they have their
guides you know with their
[35:54]
» Yeah.
>> Yeah, but other than that and and boiler
[35:58]
rush was another whole thing but
he works over in Windsor. So it's been
[36:03]
interesting and I'm
very thankful for the bypass you know
[36:07]
with
going around on Harrison Street and that
[36:11]
because it's rather than having to go
through State Street.
[36:32]
» One thing that'll be interesting
when you get crash reports is the number
[36:37]
of crashes at um
uh State Michigan
[36:41]
um Boulevard and um 231. There seem to
be a lot of crashes there.
[36:50]
» Yes, we do uh
work on
[36:54]
more uh
full crash reports with with all the
[36:58]
crashes, not just deep dives on
pedestrians.
[37:02]
Um so, I don't know Ari if you had
anything you wanted to add about that
[37:05]
specific intersection. I know you look
at the data a lot more than I do um in
[37:09]
more depth, so.
>> Yeah, I mean
[37:14]
uh I
don't want to talk off the top of my
[37:18]
head here without firm numbers, but I
will say that yeah, our most recent
[37:22]
crash report uh we pull out a lot of big
corridors uh directly in intersections,
[37:27]
so you can look exactly at, you know,
State Street or Michigan Avenues or
[37:31]
any of the big intersections there and
see exactly how many
[37:34]
crashes there were in the past 5 years.
Um
[37:39]
and our other reports that are not just
the pedestrian one are more up-to-date,
[37:43]
so.
You can look at the whole history of all
[37:46]
of our crash reports too on our website
if you want to see even older stuff,
[37:49]
too.
>> Oh, and I'd be interested with the the
[37:53]
scooters and that cuz and they're just
flying down the road, you know, in in um
[37:59]
basically as fast as cars. Um and it's
that's kind of scary, too, but um and
[38:06]
you know, all the e-bikes and you know,
things have just changed over the past
[38:09]
few years with
the availability of all all of that
[38:12]
stuff.
>> Certainly. Yeah, we do have data on that
[38:16]
in those crash reports. Um we break out
the users by uh mode to the extent that
[38:22]
we're able. Uh as to mention before, you
know, the officers have certain
[38:27]
categories they can report uh crashes
as.
[38:30]
So, some things get aggregated like, you
know, mopeds and scooters are kind of,
[38:35]
you know,
similar, so they get aggregated in the
[38:37]
data, but
yeah, I think these days it's mostly
[38:42]
those e-scooters, not as many mopeds.
But, who knows? Maybe in the future
[38:47]
everyone will be on scooters and we
won't have crashes anymore. You know,
[38:49]
really supposed to have lower speed
crashes than other vehicles. So.
[39:10]
» Hey, did we get any comments from either
of our streams on Facebook or YouTube?
[39:20]
» You're not seeing any.
>> Okay. Well, I think we've given a a fair
[39:24]
opportunity for everyone on the streams
to come in as well.
[39:28]
So, with that we can go ahead and move
on to adjournment. Um just to be formal,
[39:34]
go ahead and take a motion for
adjournment.
[39:39]
» So, moved.
>> I'll second you.
[39:41]
» This is Deanna.
>> Okay, so
[39:44]
I think between all
>> three moves here.
[39:46]
» Yeah,
between Steve, Deanna, and Lynn, we I
[39:49]
think we have at least a motion and a
second there.
[39:51]
» A second, yeah.
>> Um so
[39:55]
uh with unless there are any objections,
I think we can go ahead and adjourn. So,
[39:59]
any objections to adjournment?
>> None.
[40:04]
Have a good evening.
Thank you guys for all your hard work.
[40:07]
» objections, so we'll go ahead and
adjourn, and we will see you uh at our
[40:12]
next meeting in December on the 9th.
Everybody have a great evening.
[40:17]
» Thank you so much.
>> Thank you.