[5:14] left.

[5:20] » Let me get let Chad sit down there.

[5:25] » Well, that wasn't the plan, but I miss y'all too much.

[5:29] » Welcome to the Town of Abington, Virginia Planning Commission regular

[5:32] meeting. We appreciate your interest and we encourage public participation in our

[5:37] meeting. Your comments are important to our decision-making process. Please note

[5:42] that there will be two opportunities during the meeting for you to address

[5:46] commission members. The first will come when I ask for public comment for items

[5:52] not on the agenda. The second will come if there is a public hearing once the

[5:56] chair declares the hearing open for comment. In each case, anyone addressing

[6:03] the commission shall approach the podium, give your first and last name,

[6:07] and your complete physical address. Comments must be limited to three

[6:11] minutes. Roll call. >> Mr. Austin,

[6:15] » present. >> Mr. Johnson,

[6:18] » present. >> Mr. Thompson,

[6:20] » present. >> Mr. Pennington,

[6:21] » I made it. >> Present. Sorry.

[6:25] » Mr. Sprouls, >> present.

[6:27] » Mr. Wilson, >> present.

[6:28] » Mr. Schuman, >> present. All right. Uh the next order

[6:32] business is approval of the minutes for the July 28th, 2025 regular meeting. Are

[6:38] there any additions or corrections to the minutes?

[6:42] If if not, is there a motion that they approved be approved as submitted?

[6:48] » Some moved. >> All right. Is there a second?

[6:50] » Second. >> All right. Any additional discussion? If

[6:53] not, if you would call the role. >> Mr. Austin.

[6:56] » I. >> Mr. Johnson?

[6:57] » I. >> Mr. Thompson. Hi,

[7:00] » Mr. Pennington. >> I

[7:01] » Mr. Sprouls. >> Hi,

[7:02] » Mr. Wilson. >> Hi.

[7:04] » And Mr. Schuman. >> Hi.

[7:06] » Next order of business is public comment for items not on the agenda. Is there

[7:10] anybody signed up to make public comment? Is there anybody in the

[7:14] audience who would want to make public comment?

[7:17] All right. If not, we'll move on to the first certificate of appropriateness. Um

[7:23] and uh Gabe, do you want to mention what we're the fact that Jerry SCs cannot be

[7:29] here tonight? >> Sure.

[7:30] » Um and >> yeah, so uh the applicants did plan on

[7:34] being here, but some medical issues came up and so talking with county, we felt

[7:38] that these were still pretty straightforward applications. So

[7:41] obviously at the board's discretion, the commission's discretion, but uh we felt

[7:45] that, you know, a motion could possibly be made unless you guys have some other

[7:49] additional questions. Uh but yeah, we'll kind of go from there and see what you

[7:52] guys what's the pleasure of the commission.

[7:54] » It appeared to that these >> potential certificates are pretty much

[7:59] cut and dried. If for some reason there is a disagreement, we can to table it,

[8:04] but otherwise it doesn't appear to me that it would be appropriate to delay

[8:08] for no particular reason. So anyway, the first certificate of appropriateness,

[8:12] Jerry Suns, applicant Jesse L. Owens and Charles O. bird owner certificate of

[8:19] appropriateness for non-illuminated projecting and window signage located at

[8:23] 252 West Main Street, Abington, Virginia 24210

[8:28] parentheses parcel 012-1-131

[8:33] in parenthesis staff report. >> Yes. All things custom applicant Jesse

[8:38] L. Owens and Charles O. Bird owners and Jerry Signs Incorporated representative

[8:43] have requested approval of a certificate appropus for non-elilluminated

[8:47] projecting and window signage located at 252 West Main Street. Uh this property

[8:52] is located in our central business district B3.

[8:56] Um background uh all things custom currently occupies 252 West Main Street,

[9:03] suite 1.

[9:07] Staff findings. The applicant proposes to install a three foot by three foot

[9:11] non-illuminated double-sided CNC carved HDU projecting sign attached to the

[9:17] primary north elevation using a painted black steel brackets as shown in the

[9:21] rendering provided. So here's the primary facade.

[9:26] Here's what the uh sign would look like and it would be placed approximately

[9:31] here between the second and first stories. It's similar to other kind of

[9:35] projecting sign styles that we have in the entrance corridor. Um,

[9:41] next, the applicant proposes to remove the existing pink vinyl graphics applied

[9:45] to the primary north elevation uh prefinished black aluminum frame

[9:49] commercial window and install a 36 square ft teal vinyl graphics with a 1

[9:55] and 1/2 in thick teal vinyl graphics border as shown in the ren provided. So

[9:59] again, it's the same size, just the border is the new piece, but they're

[10:03] just looking to remove the pink vinyl that's here, and replace it with a teal

[10:09] one that matches the color scheme of their proposed projecting sign and

[10:12] centering it more on this window here. So, kind of bringing everything a little

[10:17] bit more into uh cohesion in terms of the design.

[10:24] And that's all I have for you. So again, here's the primary elevation. The

[10:29] proposed projecting sign will go approximately here

[10:33] in this area. And then the next one is again that window signage, removing the

[10:38] pink one, putting the same size, and then just centering it and putting a

[10:42] border around it. If you have any questions for me, I can answer them. If

[10:46] not, >> anybody on the commission have any

[10:48] questions for Gabe?

[10:54] If >> I was like

[10:58] it's just going to be the letters, right? And the box.

[11:01] » Yeah. Oh, yeah. Let me Sorry. Let me >> It's not like they're putting a board up

[11:05] there like it looks like that. >> No. So, imagine the black is the window.

[11:08] So, it's just the blue and everything. So, this is just a negative. Yeah. Yeah.

[11:12] No, that's the same question I had when I first got the rendering. I said,

[11:15] "You're not putting a full black back uh background on, right?" They go, "No,

[11:19] that's just a negative." So, it'll just be the blue that you see here.

[11:23] » Okay. Thank you. >> Yep.

[11:25] » Additional questions.

[11:29] » What's the pleasure of the commission? Is there a motion?

[11:36] » Yeah, I'd make a motion we accept the application submitted.

[11:40] » Okay. Is there a second? >> Second.

[11:42] » All right. Additional discussion? If not, if you would call the role.

[11:48] » Mr. Austin, >> I.

[11:49] » Mr. Johnson, >> I.

[11:51] » Mr. Thompson. >> Hi,

[11:52] » Mr. Mr. Pennington. >> Hi,

[11:54] » Mr. Sprouls. >> Hi,

[11:55] » Mr. Wilson. >> Hi.

[11:56] » And Mr. Schuman. >> Hi.

[11:59] » Next order of business is certificate of appropriateness, Jerry Signs, Inc.

[12:04] applicant, Johnson Center, Inc. owner, certificate of appropriateness for

[12:10] internally illuminated freestanding signage located at 480 East Main Street,

[12:15] Abington, Virginia, 24210. parenthesis parcel014-6-1

[12:20] [Music] in parenthesis

[12:24] staff report >> Liberty Tax applicant Johnson Center

[12:28] Incorporated owner and Jerry Signs Incorporated representative have

[12:33] requested approval of a certificate of purpose for internally illuminated

[12:36] freestanding signage located at 480 East Main Street. The property is located

[12:41] within a general business district B2.

[12:46] Uh, some background. Parcel014-6-1 is known as the Johnson Center and

[12:52] contains multiple businesses. You've seen many signs in this past couple

[12:56] weeks come for different businesses that are located on that same parcel.

[13:03] Uh, staff findings. Dapkin proposes to install a uh two install two 6 ft x 5 ft

[13:09] 30 square ft internally illuminated acrylic with applied vinyl graphics

[13:14] panel set within the existing painted blue steel cabinet as shown in the

[13:18] rendering provided. The existing painted black iron post uh from which the

[13:22] painted blue steel cabinet is hung will remain unchanged. So again, here's the

[13:27] view of the primary elevation of the building and here's the existing um

[13:32] freestanding sign and cabinet. Uh it has the existing business's uh sign in

[13:37] there, but that will be removed obviously.

[13:40] Again, existing sign on its own. This is what it will look like. So really, it's

[13:44] just switching out the faces. Nothing else is changing.

[13:49] » Questions for Gabe?

[13:55] That's the only sign that's being presented, right? No other.

[13:57] » Yes, that's the only one. Yep. Yep. And then they're allowed to have this right

[14:01] here. They don't need a permit. Just they take it in and out as for business

[14:04] hours and everything. So that's the only one that they're changing.

[14:13] What's the pleasure of the commission? Is there a motion?

[14:16] » I'll make a motion to pro to approve as presented.

[14:19] » All right. Is there a second? >> I'll second.

[14:22] » Okay. Any additional discussion? If not, Gabe,

[14:26] if you would call the role. >> Mr. Austin,

[14:28] » I. >> Mr. Johnson,

[14:30] » I. >> Mr. Thompson.

[14:31] » I. >> Mr. Pennington.

[14:33] » Hi. >> Mr. Sprouls.

[14:34] » Hi. >> Mr. Wilson.

[14:36] » Hi. >> And Mr. Schuman.

[14:37] » Hi. >> Next order of business, certificate of

[14:41] appropriateness. Freda Deusk, applicant owner, certificate of appropriateness

[14:46] for exterior changes located at 270 West Main Street, Abington, Virginia 24210.

[14:53] parenthesis parcel011-8-3

[14:57] in parenthesis staff report debusk owner/applicant has requested

[15:04] approval of a certificate of purpose for exterior changes to the primary north

[15:08] elevation of the building located at 270 and 272 west main street. Excuse me.

[15:14] It's located in our central business district B3.

[15:20] Uh some background on the site itself. According to Places and Time volume 2,

[15:24] written by Nancy C. King. Charles Fert, a nephew of WW Hurt, acquired the

[15:29] property in 1906. A dwelling was located on the property upon Charles F. Charles

[15:35] Furd's acquisition, but was damaged in the 1914 fire and subsequently repaired.

[15:40] In 1935, the dwelling was removed and the lot was subdivided. Lincoln Theaters

[15:45] Corporation of Marian, Virginia, acquired three lots in 1939 and built

[15:48] the Zephr Theater. The Zephr Theater was Evan's first modern movie theater,

[15:53] although moving pictures have been shown for some years at the Opera House, now

[15:56] known as the Barter Theater, the Dixie Theater, and Sawyer's West End Moving

[16:00] Pictures Theater. In the 1940s, a fire damaged the interior and exterior of the

[16:05] building, but was repaired and opened to the public. Uh, soon after the Zephr

[16:10] Theater closed, the circa 1963, and the property was purchased by BF Dusk in

[16:14] 1967. The theater building was occupied by Debusk furniture store and now serves

[16:19] as an antique store and a uh barber shop.

[16:25] Uh staff findings. The applicant proposes to undertake the following

[16:28] items. So as you see here, this is the existing primary elevation of the

[16:33] building. Remove the existing painted wooden sheathing from the north uh

[16:38] northern elevation. So you can see that the paint is peeling off in various

[16:42] sections and the wood sheathing's seen here.

[16:45] Repair the damaged CMU block wall with a Portland based cement as needed. Uh

[16:50] paint a thicker border around 270 and 272 West Main Street using uh paint

[16:57] known by Black Bean as shown in the rendering provided. Paint the area

[17:02] Woodland Stone within the thick border painted black bean as shown in the

[17:06] rendering provided. Here's the rendering that I'm speaking of.

[17:10] uh paint existing uh paint existing painted green U-pel awning roof cladding

[17:17] uh black again as shown in the render provided. So right here

[17:21] and then reattach the existing red and white Zephr Antiques wall sign

[17:29] uh within this section right here.

[17:36] Uh the only staff recommendation uh because this will have to be an

[17:41] encroachment to actually get the wood sheathing off and repair the block and

[17:44] everything is that staff is recommending the encroachment period for the ECCOA

[17:49] request should not extend beyond 3 weeks in total.

[17:54] So and I think I've been told by the applicant that they might do this in

[17:58] phases. Phase one will be taking down the sheathing and looking at it,

[18:02] assessing it what needs to be repaired. the encroachment would be taken away and

[18:06] then put back once they're ready to mobilize again and repair and paint. So

[18:10] like week and a half here, week and a half there kind of thing. So again,

[18:15] here's the existing and this is what they like to do uh

[18:22] moving forward. Questions for Gabe?

[18:27] » They're just painting uh the sheathing, right? So, they're going to take off the

[18:32] sheathing totally and then paint the block. They're going to paint the block.

[18:35] Okay. >> Uh but they need to repair the block

[18:38] because from historical research, this building when it was a theater used to

[18:42] have uh steel panels on it that would be reflective. And then after the panels

[18:48] got removed, some wood cladding got put on. So, the block probably has some

[18:51] holes in it. Uh and so, uh before they paint it, they want to repair any holes

[18:57] or any damage to the block that occurred, uh from those previous

[19:01] claddings, and then they would just paint it.

[19:06] » Okay. Additional questions? Um the applicant, you're you're welcome

[19:12] to make a presentation if you want to, but you you're not certainly not

[19:15] required to. Um >> I think you did a great job.

[19:24] I just want just want to make sure you knew that you had the opportunity.

[19:27] » I appreciate that. I just want to thank

[19:40] questions or discussion.

[19:44] Is there is there a motion?

[20:07] I'd make a motion that we approve the change as presented.

[20:15] » Okay. >> Appropriateness.

[20:18] » Is there a second? >> I'll second.

[20:20] » Okay. Any additional discussion? If not, if you would call the role.

[20:27] » Mr. Austin. >> I.

[20:29] » Mr. Johnson? >> I.

[20:30] » Mr. Thompson. >> I.

[20:33] » Mr. Pennington. >> I. Mr. Sprouls.

[20:36] » Hi, >> Mr. Wilson.

[20:38] » Hi. >> Mr. Schuman.

[20:39] » Hi. >> And I think you wanted to have a

[20:43] discussion with um about the facade improvement with

[20:47] Isaiah. >> Yep. So, I have Isaiah Thomas here. So,

[20:50] this uh this ECCOA request is will also be part of a facade grant program. So,

[20:57] just to give a review to the applicant of what's required for that program, but

[21:01] also gives us the opportunity to hear more about the facade grant program.

[21:04] whoever else would be interested in updating their facade.

[21:08] » Absolutely. So, I think you guys have seen quite a few of these over the

[21:11] years. Um the facade grant program is something we do um to incentivize on our

[21:17] enterprise zone. That's a state zone that we set. It's we're a main street

[21:21] town. Pretty much all of our business is along Main Street. So, our entire main

[21:25] street corridor along with Common Street is in what we call an enterprise zone

[21:29] and allows you to um get some grant or they're actually reimbursements, but

[21:34] they call them a grant for either capital improvement within that zone or

[21:38] for um job creation in that zone. In order for us to offer that and get

[21:44] access to those funds, we have to have some of our own incentives. And one of

[21:47] those is the facade grant. Previously, we've changed it this year. previously

[21:51] was based upon square footage and they had three brackets which was 2500 um

[21:56] 5,000 and 10,000 and then based upon your square footage you could get up to

[22:01] those with certain amounts. We've changed it this year and we just have

[22:05] two $10,000 grants and two $5,000 grants um because that $2,500 really just

[22:11] doesn't go far in today's society. So um the way that it works is it's a

[22:17] reimbursement. So, they cover the total costs, keep the receipts, and then once

[22:22] the project's completed to the town's liking and everything's been signed off

[22:26] on and all the permits are pulled like they wanted them to, then we'll

[22:29] reimburse them for the amount. Um, and it's a 50 50/50 matching grant. So, if

[22:35] you apply for the the $10,000 grant, it's $20,000 in total improvement and

[22:40] they're covering 50%. Now, they can obviously pay more than go over that if

[22:44] they want, but they have to at least match their 50% match with us. Um the

[22:49] overall goal of this is to increase the street scrape of Abington to you know we

[22:53] kind of target properties. We ask everybody that probably would want to

[22:57] but there are some in that I go out and try to recruit that are a little bit um

[23:02] in disrepair. And this one was one that you know I reached out to Mr. us last

[23:06] year and just wasn't on the cards for it last year, but she seems motivated to do

[23:10] it this year. And um not going to throw off on on the building, but it could

[23:14] could use some some rubbing and some massaging. Um I think a piece of that

[23:19] has actually fallen on the street before some type of building. So um but yeah,

[23:22] the saw grant is uh I think it it does a lot for our streetscape, especially in

[23:28] buildings that um deserve to look uh like having looks. So, this is one of

[23:36] them. We're going to have a couple more probably come before you that, uh, I

[23:40] think will help, especially in this area. Um, the building right next to it,

[23:44] which is the optitians building that they both came before last time, I think

[23:48] 10 years ago, was part of a Main Street grant. Um, which was not a town thing.

[23:52] It was just a affiliate of the town. So, we go again. But, yeah, that's the

[23:57] facade grant. Pretty clean. And, um, we're happy to do it. And when they

[24:03] submit stuff to you, they have to keep track of all their receipts. Correct.

[24:06] » Yep. So the the biggest thing on the facade grants are is we want compliance.

[24:10] So we're not trying to sidestep anything we would require otherwise. So um all

[24:15] building permits that might be required. Any COAs um that would be required that

[24:19] have to go for. All our signage has to be approved. Um one thing we did change

[24:25] recently is we used to uh continue to charge for the permits they may need to

[24:30] get. we kind of started doing the pro if you're part of a facade grant then you

[24:34] wave the permit fees and that's just because it doesn't make sense for us to

[24:37] give them money then take it right back in the permit fees we want as much as it

[24:40] to go to the improvement of the property um so we do wave the fees if you apply

[24:44] for it um yeah that you know be in compliance with all other rules and

[24:50] regulations the town has but we like it and oh I forgot to talk what

[24:56] qualifies so any uh exterior improvements qualify signage can also

[25:01] qualify. They can get their facade grant for signage. That's actually why we

[25:04] bumped it up and got rid of that square footage requirement because most um

[25:08] tenant spaces in town are 1,500 square feet and less. So, it was like $2,500

[25:12] max, 5,000 total. And signage today is what pretty much what signage goes for.

[25:17] It would max out the budget. We were just getting signs and signs don't they

[25:21] look better when they're fixed, but the overall facade of the building is what

[25:24] we were trying to aim it towards. So, exterior of the building, facades, um,

[25:29] anything that has to do with landscaping or streetscape. The only thing it won't

[25:33] really qualify for is we we're not going to improve parking lots and we won't

[25:36] improve mechanical equipment. Um, just not what it's intended for.

[25:41] » Yeah. You have any questions? I'd be happy to answer.

[25:43] » Now, this is through the opasses of the economic development authority. Is that

[25:47] correct? >> Yeah. Well, um, so the economic dem

[25:50] partners the town. So, this comes out of the town's budget. It's budgeted every

[25:53] year um in the general fund and goes to the economic development department. The

[25:58] EDA has covered some facade grants. So, in years past, there's been a couple

[26:02] years where we've had more applicants than there was enough in the funds to do

[26:05] so, and we've partnered with EDA to cover a couple of those. And then there

[26:09] have been some applicants that aren't in that enterprise zone. They're outside of

[26:13] it, but still, you know, in the relative scheme of things in town, you're you're

[26:17] pretty much still on Main Street. and the EDA has been able to cover those

[26:20] even though it didn't qualify for our footprint.

[26:25] » And again, just to >> questions

[26:27] » clarify just because I think there were some questions last time one came you

[26:30] the plan commission is the first step they would go through to make sure that

[26:34] that project that they're applying to Isaiah for is approved uh because like

[26:38] Isaiah mentioned they have to be in compliance with or signage if they need

[26:41] a COA all that building all that kind of stuff. So, just to kind of clarify that

[26:45] because I remember maybe two meetings ago there was some question about that.

[26:49] But yeah, >> any any questions for Isaiah?

[26:56] » Thank you. >> Thank you guys. Thanks.

[27:02] » All right. Uh, next order of business is old business matters not on the agenda.

[27:07] Excuse me. Discussion concerning planning commission member comprehensive

[27:11] plan chapter selection. So

[27:16] you guys have had some time to kind of go through what chapters or chapter that

[27:22] you would like to kind of spearhead. Um we can either kind of go down the line

[27:28] or whoever wants to kind of go first and say you know what you would be

[27:31] interested in spearheading. Uh the next step would probably be um once we've

[27:37] got, you know, at max two two board two commission members to a chapter would be

[27:43] to uh schedule a time when that board or whoever's kind of involved with that

[27:49] kind of section of that chapter. Uh to have you guys go to one of their

[27:53] meetings just as an introductory kind of start just to be like, hey, we're here

[27:57] just to listen to what you guys have heard, what's needed, what could we

[28:00] improve upon in the comp plan. it's better to probably start with the intro

[28:04] meeting than you guys just showing up to one of their meets and going, "Hey,

[28:06] we're here now, but you know, this is what we're going to do." So, just a way

[28:10] to form that bridge, form that partnership that we I've seen in the

[28:14] comp plan. Some chapter some chapters are welldeveloped, some are a little

[28:17] less. So it's again that might maybe just been how things were coordinated

[28:22] before but our overall goal is to have an updated comprehensive plan where

[28:26] every chapter's uh up to the standard that Abidan deserves and so that we make

[28:31] sure that we plan for the next five years adequately in all aspects.

[28:35] So >> now do you have a list of volunteers for

[28:40] the different sections? I mean could because I think can you share that with

[28:44] us or should we should you share it before the next meeting or how do you

[28:48] want to do that? >> So I was just going to go I've got a

[28:51] list here and I'm going to share the list once we've assigned them tonight

[28:53] and everything. Uh but I know Kenny you brought up introduction before. Um Mr.

[28:59] Wilson I know you gave me two last week. I can't remember what they were but I

[29:03] think one >> utilities and economic development.

[29:11] Mr. Thompson, you also I think said, did you say tourism was one?

[29:15] » Economic development and tourism. Yeah.

[29:24] » I'm I'm pretty flexible. So, if you've got a chapter that nobody volunteered

[29:29] for, I I'm happy to be assigned that. >> Okay. I'll get I'll put you down for

[29:34] introduction first and we'll see what else people want to do.

[29:39] Uh yes, Mr. Pennington, did you have any in mind that you

[29:42] » No, I I'll be completely flexible in terms of being able to fill in or

[29:48] again nothing that one way or the other. I don't

[29:53] happy to be whatever is needed. >> Okay. Mr. Scholes, you have anything

[29:57] » kind of the same sentiment. You can kind of plug me in where

[30:00] » where as needed. >> Okay.

[30:03] » Go over those again. Uh, so we've got introduction, people, neighborhoods, and

[30:09] land use, transportation, economic development has two people so

[30:13] far, so we're kind of at our max with that. Parks, recreation, and open space.

[30:17] Um, given your experience on the HBO B, there's arts, culture, and history.

[30:24] Uh, tourism, environmental, and quality of life,

[30:28] public util, public utilities, facilities, and services. And then

[30:32] depending on if we get more money or something, we're we're thinking about

[30:36] maybe or kind of kicking around the idea of like a downtown specific area,

[30:42] like a downtown specific chapter that we would develop. So

[30:45] » to be honest with you, wherever you want to plug me.

[30:48] » Okay. Mr. Austin, do you have preference?

[30:53] » I have no pre Well, I did write down parks.

[30:56] » Parks. Okay. >> Excuse me. Parks.

[31:00] on that. Uh >> you you said there's two. Is there

[31:02] enough? Like how many do we need to be on? Do we need to be on two? Do we need

[31:06] to be on three? What do how many >> you can be on? How many you want?

[31:09] » Because if you've got two to I mean how many how many do you have in that list?

[31:13] And how many? >> So I've got one, two,

[31:18] got 10. >> And so the max we can have because then

[31:22] we have to publicize it is two is two commission members. If it's three, then

[31:26] we have to publicize and we don't want to have to do that.

[31:30] um or have that always be like a thing where you're going to a meeting for EDA

[31:34] or the HBRV or whatever. You going to have to post it every time. Um

[31:40] Mr. Johnson, is it okay if I put you on the history arts and culture since

[31:43] you've been on the HBRV before? So, you kind of have a lay of the land with

[31:46] that. >> I'm I'm very cultural.

[31:48] » Okay.

[31:51] Let's

[31:54] see here. >> Lisa would crack up.

[32:00] » Transportation. Uh, >> that's fine. Absolutely. Yeah.

[32:15] » Mr. Sprouls, do you want to do environmental quality of life? And

[32:19] again, you just be going to these meetings more to the point of you going

[32:22] going to these meetings more just to listen and hear what those staff or that

[32:28] specific board has seen what they what we need and possibly and then relaying

[32:32] it back here and kind of being that bridge to the planning commission. So if

[32:36] you're >> and and each of these have regular

[32:39] schedule I mean we're talking >> Yeah. Yeah.

[32:42] » Like Yeah. So the EDA is on a regular schedule and so we wouldn't have you go

[32:46] to every meeting in a sense, but it'd be like when we think it's appropriate, we

[32:49] would do kind of that schedule, that first initial introduction. Then once we

[32:52] really get going into the updating, I would be in contact with you or our firm

[32:57] that we hire and they would make sure that everything's coordinated. So you

[33:01] guys would know well in advance, hey, there's a meeting this day if you could

[33:05] attend just to be kind of that bridge in here. And then every planning commission

[33:09] uh we would kind of go over like what's been talked about at that meeting. So

[33:13] one month you know Mr. Thompson might have something to say about uh tourism

[33:18] and then maybe the next month uh Mr. Wilson might have something to say about

[33:23] u the public utilities and facilities. So it won't be like every month

[33:26] everybody's saying something might be a little bit different. So would you like

[33:30] me to put you down for environmental and quality of life or is there another one

[33:33] that you maybe are thinking more about?

[33:43] probably do the parks and recre >> Okay, so I've got Austin

[33:50] and SP for parks and wreck.

[33:58] I still need one for people, neighborhoods, and land use.

[34:02] » I don't mind doing that along with the introduction.

[34:14] Okay.

[34:19] And then I just need one for environmental and quality of life.

[34:22] That's the last one. Wilson's already done two. Schuman's

[34:28] already done two. So, is there anybody else that's really

[34:32] » I'll do I mean that's fine.

[34:44] Okay. And then if we have if we end up getting

[34:47] more money for a downtown specific version, I can reach out and then

[34:50] whoever's maybe interested in doing that part can help on that one. So, uh,

[34:58] for the remaining ones, just to have a backup to, I'll assign Mr. and I'll sign

[35:02] you another one if that's okay. >> Yes, sir.

[35:04] » Do you have a preference on like what kind of realm of

[35:07] » I had a complete list but the dog ate it before I got

[35:11] » the dog at your >> No, sir. It doesn't matter. Whatever's

[35:14] convenient. >> Okay. Uh Mr. Thompson, I think you've

[35:17] given me two. So, you're set. >> Uh Mr. Johnson, I'll look for one more

[35:22] unless >> land use.

[35:23] » Land land use. Okay.

[35:31] Okay. And then Mr. Scroll, same thing. I'll look for

[35:37] » uh Yeah. Uh let me see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Chad's on that one. So I can put

[35:41] you on that one.

[35:51] » Mr. Austin, how would you feel about um public utilities facilities and

[35:55] services? How would you feel?

[36:08] I >> think we're all set for right now.

[36:11] » You You want to when we do the agenda for the next meeting, you want to share

[36:15] all that? So, >> yes. Yeah. I'll also be sending out an

[36:18] email just like with the list and just saying who's with what. So, this way

[36:22] you've got a reference as well. >> Yeah, that'd be great.

[36:24] » Yep. So, I'll send an email out uh tomorrow and we'll just have this list

[36:27] and who's assigned to what and then um our next step is to well for me to draft

[36:34] the RFP to get our firm. Again, we're not looking to do a full rewrite because

[36:38] we have a good base. It's just more of an update because times change, projects

[36:42] change, our focus changes and then um drafting the RFP, get a firm to update

[36:48] it and run the public meetings and everything. And then uh but your guys's

[36:53] next step would be which I would which I will coordinate will be with just

[36:56] meeting with those boards or the staff and just as a more of an introductory

[36:59] piece just to say hey we're going to be in some meetings with you. Uh we're just

[37:03] really here to listen and be a bridge to the plan commission as we go ahead and

[37:07] update our our chapters because this way each chapter is up to the standard that

[37:12] it should be and that uh we're ready for the next five years.

[37:16] So, uh, that's all I've got, uh, for you.

[37:20] Aside from there is one COA waiver. Um, they've already gotten building permits.

[37:25] It's for a, uh, a building that had a cargo through it. Um,

[37:29] » that's a disgruntled client with Philip Pearl.

[37:33] » Yep. >> So, that's that's the reason why the

[37:37] plywood's up and everything. So, they're working on it. Uh, they've pulled

[37:41] » Was that just one car hit that? >> Yeah.

[37:46] man actually took it. Hit it hard. >> Yeah. So, but other than that, it was

[37:51] just that one waiver and then picking out these chapters. And so, uh that's

[37:55] all I have for you. If you have any questions for me, more than happy to

[37:58] answer. If not. >> Questions for Gabe?

[38:01] If not, is there a motion to adjurnn? >> So, moved.

[38:05] » Is there a second? >> Second.

[38:07] » All those in favor signify by saying I. I.

[38:10] » Any opposed? We're adjourned.

Planning Commission Meeting, August 25, 2025

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