2025.07.07 Angola Common Council

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[0:00] Okay, we'll start recording. So, the stream's not working, but we're
[0:04] recording and we'll have to post it later.
[0:07] Okay. Right now, we'll call the meeting to
[0:09] order for the common council Monday, July 7th. Can I have a roll call,
[0:14] please? Council member Coffee,
[0:16] present. Council member Olsen, here. Council
[0:18] member Shy here.
[0:21] Council member Dao, here.
[0:23] Council member McDerman, here. Uh,
[0:25] request approval of the June 16th minutes.
[0:28] Move to approve. Second. Motion to second. Any discussion?
[0:33] You want everything a roll call or do you want to just do it by voice?
[0:37] Yes. Roll call, please. Okay, we're going to call for a roll
[0:40] call vote. Member Coffee,
[0:42] yes. Member Olsson,
[0:44] yes. Member Sharky,
[0:46] I. Member D.
[0:47] Yes. Member Mcder.
[0:49] I. Unfinished B is ordinance number 1780
[0:52] 2025 and amending the Angola Municipal Code Chapter 8.05 solid ways. Taking our
[0:59] collection service to 1835 per month.
[1:04] Move to approve. Second.
[1:07] Motion to second. Discussion.
[1:11] Roll call vote, please. Member Coffee.
[1:13] Hi. Member Olson.
[1:15] Hi. Member Starky.
[1:17] Hi. Council member D.
[1:19] Yes. McN.
[1:21] I. Any other unfinished business?
[1:25] New business. Ordinance number 1781 2025. An ordinance fixing the
[1:30] compensation appointed officers, deputies, and other employees of the
[1:35] police and firefighters of the city of Angola, Indiana for the year 2026. This
[1:40] would be a first reading. We'll entertain a motion, then I'll explain uh
[1:45] what my proposal is. Move to approve.
[1:50] Second. Have a motion, a second.
[1:53] This is my recommendation for the following year, which means
[1:56] we're coming into budgeting season because this is always a first order of
[1:59] business when we do budgeting. We have lost our competitive advantage on our
[2:07] payroll, particularly with our first responders, fire and police. So, I'm
[2:12] proposing although the uh CPI for this year is
[2:17] 2.6, down from 3.2 last year, 2.6 6. This year I'm proposing a 4% across the
[2:24] board increase. Uh mayor, are you behind? Are we behind? Is
[2:30] that what you're telling? We we we are not where we should be. We
[2:34] we we always like to be a little bit above surrounding areas uh as
[2:39] particularly in public safety. We are not there. Uh that's why it's we started
[2:44] at a 4%. There are some exceptions to that 4%. uh and most of those are in the
[2:53] fire department. I am proposing the first class firefighter we increase that
[2:59] 6% firefighter increase that 6% part-time firefighters an increase of
[3:06] 14%. And the other exception to that 4% across the board is with our part-time
[3:11] employees. Uh they're currently at $21 an hour. I moved it up to $22
[3:18] an hour. This is my recommendation for the year 20 26.
[3:24] So, I'm just kind of curious, does that uh does that make you equitable or us
[3:28] equitable then across the area? Yes.
[3:31] Or are we going to be the leader of those?
[3:33] Um right now, particularly in the police department, we're on par with our uh Stu
[3:38] Ben County. Uh we offer longevity pay. They do not. We offer shift
[3:44] differential. They do not. Uh but other than that, we're pretty well matched
[3:48] with Stu Ben County. Uh this will put us above what Stuen County is is currently
[3:54] paying. Particularly if you look at the longevity pay and the uh shift
[3:58] differential pay. Uh we'll be a little bit better off. Uh
[4:03] there are some issues on sustainability given the Senate enrolled act one that
[4:08] went through. Brian and I are both concerned about that. We are somewhat
[4:13] taking a leap of faith that we will be able to make this work uh going forward,
[4:18] but we do want to reward our employees. We do want to pay them well. The
[4:22] firefighters were a little bit low. If you look at the if you annualize their
[4:26] income, Brian did a very in-depth study uh on wage and benefits for police and
[4:33] fire comparing first class to first class. The fire department were we're a
[4:38] little bit low. Uh we do want to increase that by going to 6%. It'll
[4:43] actually move them up a little bit over the fire, but one of the problems we
[4:47] have with the fire department is the uh pension. Uh there is an issue making the
[4:52] pension equal because of the way they we pay our firemen
[4:57] in the mandatory overtime that they have to work, but their pension is based on
[5:00] that first class firefighter pension. So by giving the 6% to the first class, you
[5:06] also will reward more on the pension for the
[5:10] higher pay. So he actually spreads it across the entire
[5:13] So you're looking at comp on a bigger picture.
[5:15] We're trying to Yeah, we're trying. It does not totally fix the pension issue.
[5:19] It does not do that, but it it does move in in the right direction. Uh and and it
[5:26] is a fair and equitable paid adjustment. Do the city employees
[5:31] understand what you're trying to do? I hope they do.
[5:34] I mean, it's it's a good thing. It it it is a very generous pay raise.
[5:37] It is well above what the CPI was. Last year was 3.2. We gave a three and a
[5:42] half. So, we were slightly above the CPI.
[5:45] Even though the CPI has gone down, it doesn't feel that way when you go to the
[5:50] grocery store, you go out to eat or you you you go shopping with your family or
[5:55] you take them to the or whatever you do. it doesn't feel like inflation's down.
[5:59] So, that's why I wanted to go over and above the CPI and be as generous as we
[6:04] possibly could uh and still be able to maintain sustainability of our budgets.
[6:10] I learned in business that money is a short-term positive motivator, but if
[6:16] it's not if equity is not there, it's a long-term bad demotivator.
[6:22] I agree. So, it's it's probably a good step. The
[6:25] other the only other question I have and then they'll let the other members get
[6:28] in was really for Ryan, you know, based and and you touched on it. Based on
[6:33] today's situation, it sounds like we're it's feasible to cover it without having
[6:38] to worry about sustainability and you're you're wondering about the
[6:42] future. We are concerned and I think I'm there too, but I look at
[6:46] it from today and and I and I hear it's okay because
[6:51] the question that I don't want to do is think today we're going to put something
[6:55] in, we automatically already know we're going to have to put a burden on the
[6:59] taxpayers and that's not what you're saying. Only if things kind of fall
[7:04] apart on other revenue streams. We we we've got and and we'll get into
[7:08] the details of our future finance as we go through the budget process. So, we
[7:12] don't need to dwell on that. This evening, uh, the county has given their,
[7:17] uh, supervisors and their department has guidance that there will be no pay
[7:21] adjustments this year at the county level. Uh, the mayors that I have spoke
[7:25] to, and I've spoke to a lot of them, they are looking at 0% increase for
[7:29] their employees to a maximum of what I was projecting or what I was offering
[7:34] was 4%. But that was a pretty small group of people that that thought that
[7:38] they would get% increase for their employees this year. This is by far uh
[7:43] on the high side of what other communities are doing. Most of them were
[7:48] in the two two and a half% range. I know. Go ahead.
[7:52] I'm sorry. No, no. All I was going to say was I was my biggest thing as a
[7:56] manager was equity was one of the most important things uh to keep the morale
[8:01] up and PE people focused. Yeah.
[8:04] And uh so I applaud it. I'm I like it. I know that we have Go ahead, Jed.
[8:12] Oh, I was just curious on if there were any additional positions included. Did
[8:16] we add any staff members to this? Fire department. The fire department,
[8:21] the chief asked uh requested that we add a training officer and that has been
[8:26] added into this ordinance. Uh and we we will we can discuss that going forward.
[8:33] That's the only additional uh position that's been added. We actually
[8:36] eliminated the classification of lieutenant in the fire uh department
[8:42] because we didn't have anybody at that level. We've been going right from first
[8:46] class fire to captain. We haven't been using that lieutenant rank. So, we did
[8:52] eliminate that from the this this ordinance, but it does add one position
[8:57] which is a training officer. He'll be responsible for internal training within
[9:02] our department and he'll also be responsible for our high school training
[9:05] program. Both of those uh operations will fall underneath that new rule is
[9:10] what we are putting out there. Mr.
[9:14] Thank you, Mr. Council. Sharkies, I want one more
[9:18] step on yours. Would it potentially preclude down the road adding more
[9:23] staff? And am I agree with you on that, Mr.
[9:28] I'm concerned down the road we're going to have to have more people because I
[9:31] think we're under staff. We are under staff. I I think so too.
[9:35] And will that preclude our ability I I support this. I'm not I'm not trying to
[9:39] judge that one. Down the road, we're going to have to resolve the problem of
[9:44] increased staff. What What's your comments on that?
[9:47] That's my opinion. Well, the comment that I would give you
[9:50] right now, no, it doesn't preclude us from adding more headcount down the
[9:52] road. It's just a matter of adding more people in the in the to payroll and we
[9:56] can certainly have those conversations. Right now, Ryan and I try to keep our
[10:02] growth to around 3 or 4% on year-over-year budget. This will grow,
[10:07] this pay scheme will grow. And adding that person between those two, we're
[10:12] estimating or I'm estimating uh I think around eight or 9% to the uh maintenance
[10:17] and operation of the budget of the fire department just with what we're
[10:21] proposing here. But no, it does not preclude us from adding more headcount.
[10:25] That's good because I know there's um a lot of folks that have left our service
[10:30] for better opportunities elsewhere and and maybe in the process of doing so.
[10:36] So, um you know, the pension is something that we really got to look at
[10:42] and I know you you got some good steps here.
[10:46] Chief, are you pretty much on board with this
[10:50] with the proposed salary ordinance? So the conversations that the mayor and I
[10:54] have had quite a few this last week and a half and my topic that I've brought to
[11:00] him is what can we do to close the gap? I understand we may not get dollar for
[11:05] dollar and pension parody but what can we do to close that gap to help with my
[11:10] retention because of what you had just mentioned.
[11:13] Okay. Thank you. It's a good step forward.
[11:23] question. Uh,
[11:25] is everybody ready? Roll call vote, please. And we do have a motion in the
[11:29] second. Council member Coffee,
[11:31] yes. Council member Olsson,
[11:32] yes. Member Sharky,
[11:35] yes. Member Dao,
[11:37] yes. Member McDermott,
[11:38] yes. Ordinance number 1782, 2025, an amending
[11:42] the city of Angola code of ordinances, title 9, public peace, morale, and
[11:46] welfare, chapter 9.05, 05 general offenses open burning. Uh Chief, you
[11:52] want to I think you kind of drafted this.
[11:55] I will. I don't know what you have in your packets. If you've got a copy, our
[11:58] original burn ordinance was established 1993 under Mayor Selman, Peg Bledsoe,
[12:04] and Chief Meek. um what had happened to bring this up in conversation as we get
[12:10] into the spring of 2025. We noticed that the burn permit section
[12:17] of which is part of our ordinance and part of the requirement for city
[12:20] residents when people go on put in for a burn permit the system wouldn't
[12:25] functioning as intended. So we started digging into it. Mark was working on
[12:30] that started conversation with uh attorney Kim and
[12:36] between the two of us I give him information from IDM I give him
[12:40] information the municipalities our size basically what this ordinance is doing
[12:45] it's taking the burn permit requirement out of the burn ordinance and kind of
[12:50] putting it on the self-governance of our residents best example I can give you to
[12:55] to make this short is the night of high school graduation. I'm driving home. I
[13:01] see eight different households with campfires in their backyard with no burn
[13:05] permits that have been submitted. So, were they doing anything wrong? No. They
[13:10] were having fun, family, friends, celebrating the achievements of their
[13:15] high school graduate, right? And so, after conversation with the mayor and
[13:21] Ryan and Kim, it's like, I think we can revise this and I think we'll be okay. I
[13:27] don't have people to go out and police it. If we was to leave it as it is, and
[13:31] 1993, it's time we take another look at it. So,
[13:35] and to your point, just having a burn permit doesn't mean they're going to
[13:38] follow this by the letter at all. Oh, I copy that.
[13:42] Yeah. I I I got you. I like it. I like it.
[13:46] I'm concerned, Bill. We've got a state statute
[13:51] open burning of certain vegetation and wood items. No permit required. and it
[13:55] doesn't allow an exception in that that I can find. It says subject to
[13:58] subsection three of the chapter. And in subsection 3, there's no condition that
[14:03] there's an alteration by a municipal pallet. I don't I I don't disagree with
[14:08] what's here, but I don't know if we have authority to do that. I guess I'm
[14:11] turning to Mr. Sha on that by eliminating the section C. I'm not
[14:17] sure our section C was valid under this uh state statute because it required a
[14:22] permit and and the the title 13 didn't require permit for those types of open
[14:28] burning. So 1993 I couldn't tell you what the
[14:33] statute was and what the requirement was. I know authority having
[14:36] jurisdiction I looked at something new at one point because it's at the end of
[14:40] the statute chief but I I don't remember and I didn't copy it here in what I
[14:44] copied. Kim, do you got anything to say or you
[14:48] want me to finish saying what I'm saying? Um, so authority having
[14:52] jurisdiction as long as we meet or exceed uh state statutes, we can enact
[14:59] for hometown jurisdiction, meaning the city of Angola. That's the way I'm in my
[15:05] position now. So you understand though, Chief, this
[15:08] statute specifically says says one thing. subject to section three
[15:13] of this chapter a person may and the only exception by the statute so that
[15:19] that is a preclusion statute I think that says that even though we have home
[15:24] rule it's a preclusion statute subject to section three and section 3 doesn't
[15:29] give us any power to do that
[15:33] that's what I'm concerned about I'd like to see us table it till we can get a
[15:37] better legal advice on this one because this is
[15:39] a little above me
[15:43] The proposed statute prohibits burning of refu debris,
[15:49] construction materials, excuse me, things of that nature with the exception
[15:55] of campfire type burns.
[16:00] I I I don't believe the state statute that you're referring to in any way is
[16:08] in conflict with that.
[16:14] Your recommendation is passed. Yes.
[16:19] A motion move to approve.
[16:22] Second motion to second. Any discussion? Was that second? Is it me?
[16:31] Hearing none. Roll call vote, please. Council member Coffee,
[16:35] no. Council member Olsen,
[16:37] yes. Council member Shy, yes.
[16:42] Council member Dao, yes. Council member Mcder,
[16:45] yes. Okay. Public hearing regarding the
[16:49] proposed award of a public private agreement resolution number 2025891,
[16:54] a resolution of the city of Angola approving the award of build operate
[16:59] transfer contract with Kakosing Industries, Inc. Did I say that name
[17:04] right? Uh, okay. Uh we will open the public hearing for this. If you'd like
[17:09] to address the council, please make your way to the podium.
[17:20] Seeing no one moving to the podium, we will close the public hearing and we
[17:24] will move on with the consideration of resolution 2025891.
[17:30] Resolution City of Angola approving award of the build operate transfer
[17:34] contract with Kakosi Industries Incorporated.
[17:39] Move that we approve the resolution.
[17:44] Second motion, a second. Any discussion?
[17:48] Can you explain this resolution?
[17:51] Yes, sir. It just really allows us to do this type
[17:53] of work. It's probably the easiest way to
[17:56] for to enter into this type of the b style
[18:01] contract as as opposed to doing a bid.
[18:04] Okay. Again, correct.
[18:05] Okay. So, it's so it's only for proagen.
[18:08] It's only for well this resolution allows us to do that the city to do that
[18:13] period. We are doing it for this pokeagen project
[18:18] and both be water and sewer. Correct.
[18:20] Okay. So yes I just got around after pagan
[18:28] activity is done contract. Okay it's preclusion.
[18:36] Thanks sir Amanda I I'm trying to find where it was in here. It's in the
[18:41] project operating agreement as I read through this. They talk about part of
[18:46] our guarantee is that we own the land but we don't own the land and we don't
[18:49] own the easement. that's going out there. Isn't that the Stacy's one? That
[18:53] was the only concerned me in what I read in all of it.
[18:56] So, that's the next one. So, I can either answer that now or wait till
[19:01] I thought that this one incorporated that next one. I didn't.
[19:04] What we're on now is solely the rest of the Okay.
[19:06] The next one is the actual agreement that that you
[19:11] Any further discussion? Roll call vote, please.
[19:15] Council member Coffee? Yes.
[19:17] Council member Olsen? Yes.
[19:18] Council member Shy? Yes. Council member Dao. Yes. Council member
[19:22] Mcderman. Yes.
[19:24] I request approval of the build, operate, transfer agreement for Pokeagen
[19:28] Utility Project Division into construction with Kakosing Industry
[19:33] Incorporated for a guaranteed maximum amount of 17,274,800.
[19:42] I move that we approve. Motion and second. Any discussion? So
[19:48] my question please. Your question. So the city will own the
[19:52] easements. There will be an agreement between the city and the DNR on the
[19:58] splitting of ownership post construction.
[20:00] Okay. That's that's built in that we're going to get the ownership at least own
[20:04] the easement. That's what I was concerned with. We
[20:07] were making a promise maybe we couldn't keep. And they're are they going to do
[20:10] that before they start building or is that something? Okay. So that will be a
[20:14] separate agreement between the city and DNR because we're the applicant. The
[20:19] city can only be the only entity to go into an agreement with Kakosi. So that's
[20:25] why it's set up that way because of the funding mechanism.
[20:28] We we will have our easement will be granted part of the ement
[20:32] because the state owns they own that 100 feet or whatever it is, don't they? They
[20:36] own that. It isn't just an easement. They own the property, don't they? that
[20:41] like in the park or No, I mean going from from who's your
[20:44] hill out. They don't along the road. Those are easements the
[20:47] city wall that will be outside of the writing.
[20:50] Okay. But yes,
[20:52] the DOJ I'm sorry.
[20:54] Are the DOJ or extra
[20:59] ETJ? Yes.
[21:01] ETJ. Yeah. So, the easements along the road
[21:05] are all to the favor of the city of Angola. And then once it gets to park
[21:10] property, that's where that agreement between the city and the DNR will come
[21:14] into play. Okay?
[21:15] Because the DNR will own Gotcha. infrastructure.
[21:18] Got it. Now that makes sense to me. Thank you.
[21:22] When do we think optimistically that we're going to see dirt fly?
[21:28] I can speak a little bit. Yep. Uh I'm Nathan Brun with Wesler Engineering. Um
[21:33] we received an update from Kakosian today that they expect September 1st
[21:38] which I think is technically Labor Day. So, let's say September 2nd for them to
[21:41] start actual construction operations. So,
[21:45] start September 7 is where they start.
[21:50] We have we've seen some preliminary schedules from them. I know there's a
[21:52] lot of ground to cover there. I we'll have to talk with them a bit more on
[21:56] specifics, but that's a great question.
[21:57] Yeah, that's a great question. Where started?
[22:01] My best guess it would be that they would start at the south end and work
[22:05] north. just just start where they can tie on and progress north
[22:09] towards the park. Yeah. Give or take September 1st.
[22:12] They're going to redo a lift start at Woodh Hall like redo that and then head
[22:17] north. Say on the sewer side. I know that I
[22:20] would if I were them I would start at the Woodh Hall lift station just because
[22:23] that's what needs upsides first for everything north to come south. So
[22:26] yeah. Yeah.
[22:27] And it may be different crews because the crew that would work on the lift
[22:30] station is probably different than the pipe crew. So they they may be in
[22:34] parallel. Yeah, I can see that.
[22:37] Yeah, could be doing both.
[22:40] Are they likely to build the lift station first before they start the uh
[22:44] bike aerial? Is that what you're saying? Where they so they're going to do all at
[22:48] the same time? Like Lori stated, I think based on the
[22:50] different crews, they might be working in parallel on those activities at the
[22:53] same time. I mean, they're going to have tons of people on site through the
[22:57] course of almost two years. So um a question that I have just what does
[23:02] it mean when it says guaranteed maximum amount does that mean that change orders
[23:08] won't change that amount or do change orders agreed upon change orders
[23:14] will up it could be upped if it's a change in scope but what has been
[23:20] submitted in the scoping letter that's the maximum so if scope doesn't change
[23:25] price doesn't change and that 17 million did have the half a
[23:28] million contingency built in. Is that in that number too? Can't remember.
[23:32] Yes, that includes uh $550,000 of built-in contingency.
[23:38] Yes. And I saw somewhere in there there's a
[23:41] um and maybe it was in the engineering piece there was like a rate schedule. I
[23:46] know there's a bunch of rate schedules, but there was one of them that said it
[23:50] was a rate schedule that's set up between 24 2024 and 2025 adjusted in
[23:56] April, which would mean that the rate schedule is not correct.
[24:01] So, I I'm just wondering if we're basing what we're basing numbers off of that
[24:05] rate schedule is not correct. That's in our packet. It's towards the end and it
[24:09] has like an F and B or an F and E at the bottom.
[24:12] So, those are Yeah. later on. But that is for um
[24:18] construction admin and construction inspection. I guess you can speak on if
[24:22] you those are accurate. Yeah. So it's fleece and bandon break
[24:25] the FNV and that's for the drinking and water project and um our um
[24:32] everything's hourly rate not to exceed is is the basis. So, um, we'll we'll
[24:39] build on an hourly rate through that, but we we have a not to exceed without
[24:44] scope change in our contract as well. So, that rate that's that's in our
[24:49] packet, that's this what it's being worked off of.
[24:52] Yes. As far as rates,
[24:53] yes, that was all it caught me in that note
[24:56] at the bottom. Yeah.
[24:58] Okay, I'm cool. Thank you. Any further discussion?
[25:03] Roll call bill, please. Council member coffee.
[25:06] Yes. Council member Olsson, yes.
[25:07] Council member Shy, yes.
[25:09] Council member Dao, yes.
[25:11] Council member McNervis, yes.
[25:17] request approval of agreement for focusing utility project divisions one
[25:22] and two resident project representation services and and division 2 construction
[25:28] administration services with west engineering in the amount of 924,700
[25:35] to approve second
[25:40] discussion
[25:43] hearing none Call vote, please. Member Coffee,
[25:46] yes. Member Bolson,
[25:48] yes. Member Sari,
[25:49] yes. Da,
[25:51] yes. Member McDermott,
[25:52] yes.
[25:55] Okay. Request approval of the Pokeagan uh utility project Division 1
[26:01] construction administration services agreement with Fleece and Vanderbrink in
[26:06] the amount of $225,000.
[26:10] Move to approve. Second. Motion to second. Any
[26:13] discussion? Roll call vote, please.
[26:17] Member Coffee, yes.
[26:19] Member Olsen, yes.
[26:20] Member Sharky, yes.
[26:22] Member Dao, yes.
[26:23] Member Mcderman, yes.
[26:25] Request approval of the McCagen Utility Project Division 3 construction
[26:29] administration service agreement with West Engineering in the amount of 225.
[26:34] Did I? Yeah. $225,000. Move to approve.
[26:39] Second. I do have one question now. Go ahead,
[26:42] please. Um, division three. Is there a division
[26:46] three and four? I couldn't remember. Where's four at in all this?
[26:50] Um, division four is the water tower repainting and um we are handling that.
[26:58] Okay. Okay. Got it.
[27:01] I'm good. I don't Mayor I don't believe the
[27:04] 225,000 is correct. That didn't sound right for some reason.
[27:07] I was kind of hesitated copied from the other one. Yeah, it
[27:11] looks like a copy paste. Uh,
[27:14] that was kind of what I was thinking. That's why I had
[27:17] Yeah, it was more it was significantly less than that amount. I don't know if
[27:20] the exact number in my head, but um more it may maybe more in the 40 or 50.
[27:27] It was 40,000. Yeah,
[27:29] total maybe 40 even just for CA.
[27:31] You're complaining about the higher number. Is that what you think?
[27:35] Got to print out the whole thing. Uh let's let's nail the number down
[27:38] though. Let's make sure it is
[27:40] 40,000. Okay. Request approval uh in the amount of 40,000.
[27:46] Yes.
[27:52] So seconded. All right. Uh any other discussion?
[27:58] Roll call vote, please. Yes.
[28:00] Rollen. Yes.
[28:01] Member Shy. Yes.
[28:04] Member Dao. Yes. Member Mcder.
[28:06] Yes. reports. Brian, what do you got?
[28:10] Um, we had pre-closing last week for all of
[28:14] the bonds and and grants and uh bond anticipation notes associated with all
[28:21] these projects that we just approved contracts for. The closing is set for
[28:25] tomorrow. So, funds will be transferred tomorrow
[28:30] and we should be all set to go after that. So,
[28:33] that's all I've got. Jim, no report, Mr. Mass. Mr. River.
[28:38] Nothing, sir. What's going on in the water department?
[28:40] Nothing, mayor. Not a thing, huh?
[28:43] Not a thing. Going well.
[28:46] Everything's flowing well. He He He's always smiling even though a
[28:50] semitr dropped through the valves for one of your water tower as a guy was
[28:55] trying to get around the detour for the parade. Uh, fortunately, he did not
[29:00] break the pipes. It would have been a interesting experience if he
[29:05] It have been a wet one. It would have been it was right next to the Jackson
[29:09] Street water tower and it's the main feed for the water tower and it would
[29:13] have made one heck of a water park.
[29:18] Well, it would have been it would have been a splash pad on steroid. It
[29:20] probably would have lifted the truck right out of the
[29:24] uh chief. You got anything for us? No report.
[29:27] So, no, sir.
[29:28] No report. And uh Chief Council, h happy to report that uh
[29:35] the camera system that we have installed in our police vehicles, they installed
[29:40] 20 of them uh have all been installed and they are all currently working
[29:48] and people are happy and people are happy because it's
[29:51] actually functioning the way it should. So, so far it has been a good decision
[29:55] and a good move on our part. The techn I was over and watched the technology
[30:00] is is absolutely amazing. You can see where the cars are. You can actually see
[30:04] a feed in the dispatch of what the car is saying.
[30:08] It's it's Yeah, it's a it's a neat neat system and appears to be working 100%.
[30:13] Correct. Very pleased with that. Anything else,
[30:15] Chief? No, sir. Request approval of allowance
[30:17] accounts payable voucher 74,932 through 74,243
[30:23] totaling 1,8,455
[30:26] and one lonely penny. I move that the bills be paid.
[30:32] Second. Motion to second. Roll call, please.
[30:35] Member Coffee, yes.
[30:36] Member Olson, yes.
[30:38] Member Shy, yes.
[30:40] Member Dao, yes. Member McDner,
[30:43] yes. Anybody have any other visits for this evening?
[30:48] Yes, I do. I was on here when you were able to paint the crosswalks over at Car
[30:54] Park and so forth and I I think my doctor imposed walk every morning and I
[31:02] I was I was walking here the other day and there was a girl on a bike wanted to
[31:07] cross there and cars are just sitting right past
[31:11] because there's no crossing car. And then I go home and over by our house
[31:15] subdivision there's we got the lights and night and I'm thinking I'm hearing
[31:20] how dangerous it is for the crossing guards.
[31:23] Is there any way we can look into putting lights right there and down on
[31:31] Wayne Street to make it even safer? We have looked at those and I will let
[31:36] uh Chief Whitm actually that was something that uh Chad
[31:40] and I just spoke of and we're actually going to be making contact with our
[31:45] electrical provider that has the big big lights, not just the street light that
[31:50] everyone has, but maybe flood lights or something that will actually illuminate
[31:55] the entire area a lot better than what it currently is doing. The nice part
[31:59] about Carlin, it looks like there is a location that we could mount two over
[32:04] that area. Uh, South Wayne, it looks like there may be only one option, but
[32:10] uh, we are definitely looking into those with the additional painting and
[32:14] everything else. South Wayne is by far one of our most dangerous intersections
[32:18] that we have, especially for crossing guards. So, uh, that is something we are
[32:22] looking at. Exactly. I I was watching this poor
[32:24] girl. She was waiting, cars are just zipping past. They're like nothing. than
[32:27] I might. Well, mind you, I've been at the bicycle
[32:30] crossing at Menard's and and Meyer and it's flashing like crazy and they and
[32:35] the top of the hill or there's a red light and they still pay no attention.
[32:39] That's that's just human nature. But then but you're but you're at
[32:42] hospital you pop the thing and and you go come through. There's nothing for
[32:47] those kids to do that. They're just they're hoping I guess hope that the
[32:51] cross does seem to work down west with the knowledge by
[32:56] the old church. We haven't looked into those yet. This
[32:59] is this is just additional. I would like I I I guess I'd like to
[33:04] have that looked into because if we're putting one there for the crossing for
[33:07] the the water park area, which I surely the kids would go to school
[33:13] or playground, do we know what that cost? you talked about for the lights
[33:20] there at the Yeah, we had looked into doing that um
[33:23] at the library maybe one to two years ago and it was around the 15 to $20,000
[33:29] range. Now, is that should be similar to the
[33:32] one that is near the new location of the water park?
[33:35] Yes. Okay.
[33:36] Yes. Similar similar.
[33:38] That's not the one by mine. That's the one you try to go across hardcourt.
[33:41] We're talking one by me. One by you.
[33:44] Okay. That's I'm thinking we're looking at because it's got to be something.
[33:47] Pricing is not that anymore. Well, at our church, we
[33:50] I'm just concerned about the safety issue.
[33:52] We've been looking at that at our church and having the signal so it can be read
[33:55] depending on either way the traffic is coming. It's a 35 to $40,000 bill.
[34:01] Just to give you an idea, I'm also concerned about some little
[34:04] kids. What's the value that that child? Yep.
[34:07] Just as we're talking about, we have an idea what
[34:10] might cost in a budget to do it. Well, look at
[34:13] schools aren't going to have money to contribute. I can tell you that.
[34:17] It's not something they've contributed to in the past.
[34:19] They definitely won't now with with the budget. It affects them the most.
[34:24] They're in worse shape than we're working.
[34:27] Uh any other new business? Hearing none. The next council meeting
[34:31] will be Monday, July 21st, 2025. We are ajourned. Thank you.
[34:42] See you in September. You know it. Thanks for nonetheless. So they're not
[34:46] me.