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Okay.
Right now, we'll call the meeting to
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order for the common council Monday,
July 7th. Can I have a roll call,
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please?
Council member Coffee,
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present.
Council member Olsen, here. Council
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member Shy
here.
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Council member Dao,
here.
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Council member McDerman,
here. Uh,
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request approval of the June 16th
minutes.
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Move to approve. Second.
Motion to second. Any discussion?
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You want everything a roll call or do
you want to just do it by voice?
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Yes. Roll call, please.
Okay, we're going to call for a roll
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call vote.
Member Coffee,
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yes.
Member Olsson,
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yes.
Member Sharky,
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I.
Member D.
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Yes.
Member Mcder.
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I.
Unfinished B is ordinance number 1780
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2025 and amending the Angola Municipal
Code Chapter 8.05 solid ways. Taking our
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collection service to 1835
per month.
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Move to approve.
Second.
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Motion to second. Discussion.
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Roll call vote, please.
Member Coffee.
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Hi.
Member Olson.
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Hi.
Member Starky.
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Hi.
Council member D.
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Yes.
McN.
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I.
Any other unfinished business?
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New business. Ordinance number 1781
2025. An ordinance fixing the
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compensation appointed officers,
deputies, and other employees of the
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police and firefighters of the city of
Angola, Indiana for the year 2026. This
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would be a first reading. We'll
entertain a motion, then I'll explain uh
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what my proposal is.
Move to approve.
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Second.
Have a motion, a second.
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This is my recommendation
for the following year, which means
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we're coming into budgeting season
because this is always a first order of
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business when we do budgeting. We have
lost our competitive advantage on our
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payroll, particularly with our first
responders, fire and police. So, I'm
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proposing
although the uh CPI for this year is
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2.6, down from 3.2 last year, 2.6 6.
This year I'm proposing a 4% across the
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board increase. Uh
mayor, are you behind? Are we behind? Is
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that what you're telling?
We we we are not where we should be. We
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we we always like to be a little bit
above surrounding areas uh as
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particularly in public safety. We are
not there. Uh that's why it's we started
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at a 4%. There are some exceptions to
that 4%. uh and most of those are in the
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fire department. I am proposing the
first class firefighter we increase that
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6% firefighter increase that 6%
part-time firefighters an increase of
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14%. And the other exception to that 4%
across the board is with our part-time
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employees. Uh they're currently at $21
an hour. I moved it up to $22
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an hour. This is my recommendation for
the year 20 26.
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So, I'm just kind of curious, does that
uh does that make you equitable or us
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equitable then across the area?
Yes.
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Or are we going to be the leader of
those?
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Um right now, particularly in the police
department, we're on par with our uh Stu
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Ben County. Uh we offer longevity pay.
They do not. We offer shift
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differential. They do not. Uh but other
than that, we're pretty well matched
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with Stu Ben County. Uh this will put us
above what Stuen County is is currently
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paying. Particularly if you look at the
longevity pay and the uh shift
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differential pay. Uh we'll be a little
bit better off. Uh
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there are some issues on sustainability
given the Senate enrolled act one that
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went through. Brian and I are both
concerned about that. We are somewhat
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taking a leap of faith that we will be
able to make this work uh going forward,
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but we do want to reward our employees.
We do want to pay them well. The
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firefighters were a little bit low. If
you look at the if you annualize their
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income, Brian did a very in-depth study
uh on wage and benefits for police and
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fire comparing first class to first
class. The fire department were we're a
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little bit low. Uh we do want to
increase that by going to 6%. It'll
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actually move them up a little bit over
the fire, but one of the problems we
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have with the fire department is the uh
pension. Uh there is an issue making the
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pension equal because of the way they we
pay our firemen
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in the mandatory overtime that they have
to work, but their pension is based on
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that first class firefighter pension. So
by giving the 6% to the first class, you
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also
will reward more on the pension for the
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higher pay. So he actually spreads it
across the entire
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So you're looking at comp on a bigger
picture.
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We're trying to Yeah, we're trying. It
does not totally fix the pension issue.
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It does not do that, but it it does move
in in the right direction. Uh and and it
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is a fair and equitable paid
adjustment. Do the city employees
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understand what you're trying to do?
I hope they do.
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I mean, it's it's a good thing.
It it it is a very generous pay raise.
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It is well above what the CPI was. Last
year was 3.2. We gave a three and a
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half. So, we were slightly above the
CPI.
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Even though the CPI has gone down, it
doesn't feel that way when you go to the
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grocery store, you go out to eat or you
you you go shopping with your family or
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you take them to the or whatever you do.
it doesn't feel like inflation's down.
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So, that's why I wanted to go over and
above the CPI and be as generous as we
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possibly could uh and still be able to
maintain sustainability of our budgets.
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I learned in business that money is a
short-term positive motivator, but if
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it's not if equity is not there, it's a
long-term bad demotivator.
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I agree.
So, it's it's probably a good step. The
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other the only other question I have and
then they'll let the other members get
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in was really for Ryan, you know, based
and and you touched on it. Based on
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today's situation, it sounds like we're
it's feasible to cover it without having
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to worry about sustainability
and you're you're wondering about the
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future. We are concerned
and I think I'm there too, but I look at
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it from today
and and I and I hear it's okay because
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the question that I don't want to do is
think today we're going to put something
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in, we automatically already know we're
going to have to put a burden on the
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taxpayers and that's not what you're
saying. Only if things kind of fall
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apart on other revenue streams.
We we we've got and and we'll get into
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the details of our future finance as we
go through the budget process. So, we
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don't need to dwell on that. This
evening, uh, the county has given their,
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uh, supervisors and their department has
guidance that there will be no pay
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adjustments this year at the county
level. Uh, the mayors that I have spoke
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to, and I've spoke to a lot of them,
they are looking at 0% increase for
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their employees to a maximum of what I
was projecting or what I was offering
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was 4%. But that was a pretty small
group of people that that thought that
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they would get% increase for their
employees this year. This is by far uh
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on the high side of what other
communities are doing. Most of them were
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in the two two and a half% range.
I know. Go ahead.
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I'm sorry. No, no. All I was going to
say was I was my biggest thing as a
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manager was equity was one of the most
important things uh to keep the morale
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up and PE people focused.
Yeah.
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And uh so I applaud it. I'm I like it.
I know that we have Go ahead, Jed.
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Oh, I was just curious on if there were
any additional positions included. Did
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we add any staff members to this?
Fire department. The fire department,
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the chief asked uh requested that we add
a training officer and that has been
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added into this ordinance. Uh and we we
will we can discuss that going forward.
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That's the only additional uh position
that's been added. We actually
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eliminated the classification of
lieutenant in the fire uh department
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because we didn't have anybody at that
level. We've been going right from first
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class fire to captain. We haven't been
using that lieutenant rank. So, we did
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eliminate that from the this this
ordinance, but it does add one position
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which is a training officer. He'll be
responsible for internal training within
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our department and he'll also be
responsible for our high school training
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program. Both of those uh operations
will fall underneath that new rule is
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what we are putting out there.
Mr.
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Thank you,
Mr. Council. Sharkies, I want one more
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step on yours. Would it potentially
preclude down the road adding more
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staff?
And am I agree with you on that, Mr.
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I'm concerned down the road we're going
to have to have more people because I
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think we're under staff.
We are under staff. I I think so too.
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And will that preclude our ability I I
support this. I'm not I'm not trying to
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judge that one. Down the road, we're
going to have to resolve the problem of
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increased staff.
What What's your comments on that?
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That's my opinion.
Well, the comment that I would give you
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right now, no, it doesn't preclude us
from adding more headcount down the
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road. It's just a matter of adding more
people in the in the to payroll and we
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can certainly have those conversations.
Right now, Ryan and I try to keep our
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growth to around 3 or 4% on
year-over-year budget. This will grow,
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this pay scheme will grow. And adding
that person between those two, we're
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estimating or I'm estimating uh I think
around eight or 9% to the uh maintenance
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and operation of the budget of the fire
department just with what we're
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proposing here. But no, it does not
preclude us from adding more headcount.
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That's good because I know there's um a
lot of folks that have left our service
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for better opportunities elsewhere and
and maybe in the process of doing so.
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So, um you know, the pension is
something that we really got to look at
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and I know you you got some good steps
here.
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Chief, are you pretty much on board with
this
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with the proposed salary ordinance? So
the conversations that the mayor and I
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have had quite a few this last week and
a half and my topic that I've brought to
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him is what can we do to close the gap?
I understand we may not get dollar for
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dollar and pension parody but what can
we do to close that gap to help with my
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retention because of what you had just
mentioned.
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Okay. Thank you.
It's a good step forward.
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question.
Uh,
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is everybody ready? Roll call vote,
please. And we do have a motion in the
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second.
Council member Coffee,
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yes.
Council member Olsson,
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yes.
Member Sharky,
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yes.
Member Dao,
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yes.
Member McDermott,
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yes.
Ordinance number 1782, 2025, an amending
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the city of Angola code of ordinances,
title 9, public peace, morale, and
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welfare, chapter 9.05, 05 general
offenses open burning. Uh Chief, you
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want to I think you kind of drafted
this.
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I will. I don't know what you have in
your packets. If you've got a copy, our
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original burn ordinance was established
1993 under Mayor Selman, Peg Bledsoe,
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and Chief Meek. um what had happened to
bring this up in conversation as we get
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into the spring of 2025. We noticed that
the burn permit section
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of which is part of our ordinance and
part of the requirement for city
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residents when people go on put in for a
burn permit the system wouldn't
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functioning as intended. So we started
digging into it. Mark was working on
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that started conversation with uh
attorney Kim and
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between the two of us I give him
information from IDM I give him
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information the municipalities our size
basically what this ordinance is doing
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it's taking the burn permit requirement
out of the burn ordinance and kind of
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putting it on the self-governance of our
residents best example I can give you to
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to make this short is the night of high
school graduation. I'm driving home. I
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see eight different households with
campfires in their backyard with no burn
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permits that have been submitted. So,
were they doing anything wrong? No. They
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were having fun, family, friends,
celebrating the achievements of their
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high school graduate, right? And so,
after conversation with the mayor and
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Ryan and Kim, it's like, I think we can
revise this and I think we'll be okay. I
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don't have people to go out and police
it. If we was to leave it as it is, and
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1993, it's time we take another look at
it. So,
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and to your point, just having a burn
permit doesn't mean they're going to
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follow this by the letter at all.
Oh, I copy that.
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Yeah. I I I got you. I like it. I like
it.
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I'm concerned, Bill. We've got a state
statute
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open burning of certain vegetation and
wood items. No permit required. and it
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doesn't allow an exception in that that
I can find. It says subject to
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subsection three of the chapter. And in
subsection 3, there's no condition that
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there's an alteration by a municipal
pallet. I don't I I don't disagree with
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what's here, but I don't know if we have
authority to do that. I guess I'm
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turning to Mr. Sha on that
by eliminating the section C. I'm not
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sure our section C was valid under this
uh state statute because it required a
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permit and and the the title 13 didn't
require permit for those types of open
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burning.
So 1993 I couldn't tell you what the
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statute was and what the requirement
was. I know authority having
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jurisdiction I looked at something new
at one point because it's at the end of
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the statute chief but I I don't remember
and I didn't copy it here in what I
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copied.
Kim, do you got anything to say or you
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want me to finish saying what I'm
saying? Um, so authority having
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jurisdiction as long as we meet or
exceed uh state statutes, we can enact
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for hometown jurisdiction, meaning the
city of Angola. That's the way I'm in my
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position now.
So you understand though, Chief, this
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statute specifically says
says one thing. subject to section three
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of this chapter a person may and the
only exception by the statute so that
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that is a preclusion statute I think
that says that even though we have home
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rule it's a preclusion statute subject
to section three and section 3 doesn't
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give us any power to do that
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that's what I'm concerned about I'd like
to see us table it till we can get a
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better
legal advice on this one because this is
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a little above me
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The proposed statute
prohibits burning of refu debris,
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construction materials, excuse me,
things of that nature with the exception
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of campfire
type burns.
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I I I don't believe the state statute
that you're referring to in any way is
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in conflict with that.
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Your recommendation is passed.
Yes.
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A motion
move to approve.
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Second motion to second. Any discussion?
Was that second? Is it me?
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Hearing none. Roll call vote, please.
Council member Coffee,
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no.
Council member Olsen,
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yes. Council member Shy,
yes.
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Council member Dao,
yes. Council member Mcder,
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yes.
Okay. Public hearing regarding the
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proposed award of a public private
agreement resolution number 2025891,
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a resolution of the city of Angola
approving the award of build operate
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transfer contract with Kakosing
Industries, Inc. Did I say that name
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right? Uh, okay. Uh we will open the
public hearing for this. If you'd like
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to address the council, please make your
way to the podium.
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Seeing no one moving to the podium, we
will close the public hearing and we
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will move on with the consideration of
resolution 2025891.
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Resolution City of Angola approving
award of the build operate transfer
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contract with Kakosi Industries
Incorporated.
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Move that we approve the resolution.
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Second motion, a second.
Any discussion?
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Can you explain
this resolution?
[17:51]
Yes, sir.
It just really allows us to do this type
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of work. It's probably the easiest way
to
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for
to enter into this type of the b style
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contract
as as opposed to doing a bid.
[18:04]
Okay. Again,
correct.
[18:05]
Okay.
So, it's so it's only for proagen.
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It's only for well this resolution
allows us to do that the city to do that
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period. We are doing it for this
pokeagen project
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and both be water and sewer.
Correct.
[18:20]
Okay. So yes I just got around
after pagan
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activity is done contract.
Okay it's preclusion.
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Thanks sir Amanda I I'm trying to find
where it was in here. It's in the
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project operating agreement as I read
through this. They talk about part of
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our guarantee is that we own the land
but we don't own the land and we don't
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own the easement. that's going out
there. Isn't that the Stacy's one? That
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was the only concerned me in what I read
in all of it.
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So, that's the next one. So, I can
either answer that now or wait till
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I thought that this one incorporated
that next one. I didn't.
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What we're on now is solely the rest of
the Okay.
[19:06]
The next one is the actual agreement
that that you
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Any further discussion?
Roll call vote, please.
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Council member Coffee?
Yes.
[19:17]
Council member Olsen?
Yes.
[19:18]
Council member Shy? Yes.
Council member Dao. Yes. Council member
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Mcderman.
Yes.
[19:24]
I request approval of the build,
operate, transfer agreement for Pokeagen
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Utility Project Division into
construction with Kakosing Industry
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Incorporated for a guaranteed maximum
amount of 17,274,800.
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I move that we approve.
Motion and second. Any discussion? So
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my question please.
Your question. So the city will own the
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easements. There will be an agreement
between the city and the DNR on the
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splitting of ownership post
construction.
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Okay. That's that's built in that we're
going to get the ownership at least own
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the easement.
That's what I was concerned with. We
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were making a promise maybe we couldn't
keep. And they're are they going to do
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that before they start building or is
that something? Okay. So that will be a
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separate agreement between the city and
DNR because we're the applicant. The
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city can only be the only entity to go
into an agreement with Kakosi. So that's
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why it's set up that way because of the
funding mechanism.
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We we will have our easement will be
granted part of the ement
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because the state owns they own that 100
feet or whatever it is, don't they? They
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own that. It isn't just an easement.
They own the property, don't they? that
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like in the park or
No, I mean going from from who's your
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hill out. They don't
along the road. Those are easements the
[20:47]
city wall that will be outside of the
writing.
[20:50]
Okay. But
yes,
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the DOJ
I'm sorry.
[20:54]
Are the DOJ or
extra
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ETJ?
Yes.
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ETJ.
Yeah. So, the easements along the road
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are all to the favor of the city of
Angola. And then once it gets to park
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property, that's where that agreement
between the city and the DNR will come
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into play.
Okay?
[21:15]
Because the DNR will own
Gotcha. infrastructure.
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Got it. Now that makes sense to me.
Thank you.
[21:22]
When do we think optimistically that
we're going to see dirt fly?
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I can speak a little bit. Yep. Uh I'm
Nathan Brun with Wesler Engineering. Um
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we received an update from Kakosian
today that they expect September 1st
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which I think is technically Labor Day.
So, let's say September 2nd for them to
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start actual construction operations.
So,
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start
September 7 is where they start.
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We have we've seen some preliminary
schedules from them. I know there's a
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lot of ground to cover there. I we'll
have to talk with them a bit more on
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specifics, but
that's a great question.
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Yeah, that's a great question. Where
started?
[22:01]
My best guess it would be that they
would start at the south end and work
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north. just just start where they can
tie on and progress north
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towards the park. Yeah. Give or take
September 1st.
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They're going to redo a lift start at
Woodh Hall like redo that and then head
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north.
Say on the sewer side. I know that I
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would if I were them I would start at
the Woodh Hall lift station just because
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that's what needs upsides first for
everything north to come south. So
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yeah.
Yeah.
[22:27]
And it may be different crews because
the crew that would work on the lift
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station is probably different than the
pipe crew. So they they may be in
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parallel.
Yeah, I can see that.
[22:37]
Yeah,
could be doing both.
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Are they likely to build the lift
station first before they start the uh
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bike aerial? Is that what you're saying?
Where they so they're going to do all at
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the same time?
Like Lori stated, I think based on the
[22:50]
different crews, they might be working
in parallel on those activities at the
[22:53]
same time. I mean, they're going to have
tons of people on site through the
[22:57]
course of almost two years. So
um a question that I have just what does
[23:02]
it mean when it says guaranteed maximum
amount does that mean that change orders
[23:08]
won't change that amount or do change
orders agreed upon change orders
[23:14]
will up it could be upped if it's a
change in scope but what has been
[23:20]
submitted in the scoping letter that's
the maximum so if scope doesn't change
[23:25]
price doesn't change
and that 17 million did have the half a
[23:28]
million contingency built in. Is that in
that number too? Can't remember.
[23:32]
Yes, that includes uh $550,000
of built-in contingency.
[23:38]
Yes.
And I saw somewhere in there there's a
[23:41]
um and maybe it was in the engineering
piece there was like a rate schedule. I
[23:46]
know there's a bunch of rate schedules,
but there was one of them that said it
[23:50]
was a rate schedule that's set up
between 24 2024 and 2025 adjusted in
[23:56]
April, which would mean that the rate
schedule is not correct.
[24:01]
So, I I'm just wondering if we're basing
what we're basing numbers off of that
[24:05]
rate schedule is not correct. That's in
our packet. It's towards the end and it
[24:09]
has like an F and B or an F and E at the
bottom.
[24:12]
So, those are
Yeah. later on. But that is for um
[24:18]
construction admin and construction
inspection. I guess you can speak on if
[24:22]
you those are accurate.
Yeah. So it's fleece and bandon break
[24:25]
the FNV and that's for the drinking and
water project and um our um
[24:32]
everything's hourly rate not to exceed
is is the basis. So, um, we'll we'll
[24:39]
build on an hourly rate through that,
but we we have a not to exceed without
[24:44]
scope change in our contract as well.
So, that rate that's that's in our
[24:49]
packet, that's this what it's being
worked off of.
[24:52]
Yes.
As far as rates,
[24:53]
yes,
that was all it caught me in that note
[24:56]
at the bottom.
Yeah.
[24:58]
Okay, I'm cool. Thank you. Any further
discussion?
[25:03]
Roll call bill, please. Council
member coffee.
[25:06]
Yes. Council member Olsson,
yes.
[25:07]
Council member Shy,
yes.
[25:09]
Council member Dao,
yes.
[25:11]
Council member McNervis,
yes.
[25:17]
request approval of agreement for
focusing utility project divisions one
[25:22]
and two resident project representation
services and and division 2 construction
[25:28]
administration services with west
engineering in the amount of 924,700
[25:35]
to approve second
[25:40]
discussion
[25:43]
hearing none Call vote, please.
Member Coffee,
[25:46]
yes.
Member Bolson,
[25:48]
yes.
Member Sari,
[25:49]
yes.
Da,
[25:51]
yes.
Member McDermott,
[25:52]
yes.
[25:55]
Okay. Request approval of the Pokeagan
uh utility project Division 1
[26:01]
construction administration services
agreement with Fleece and Vanderbrink in
[26:06]
the amount of $225,000.
[26:10]
Move to approve.
Second. Motion to second. Any
[26:13]
discussion?
Roll call vote, please.
[26:17]
Member Coffee,
yes.
[26:19]
Member Olsen,
yes.
[26:20]
Member Sharky,
yes.
[26:22]
Member Dao,
yes.
[26:23]
Member Mcderman,
yes.
[26:25]
Request approval of the McCagen Utility
Project Division 3 construction
[26:29]
administration service agreement with
West Engineering in the amount of 225.
[26:34]
Did I? Yeah. $225,000.
Move to approve.
[26:39]
Second.
I do have one question now. Go ahead,
[26:42]
please.
Um, division three. Is there a division
[26:46]
three and four? I couldn't remember.
Where's four at in all this?
[26:50]
Um, division four is the water tower
repainting and um we are handling that.
[26:58]
Okay.
Okay. Got it.
[27:01]
I'm good.
I don't Mayor I don't believe the
[27:04]
225,000 is correct.
That didn't sound right for some reason.
[27:07]
I was kind of hesitated
copied from the other one. Yeah, it
[27:11]
looks like a copy paste.
Uh,
[27:14]
that was kind of what I was thinking.
That's why I had
[27:17]
Yeah, it was more it was significantly
less than that amount. I don't know if
[27:20]
the exact number in my head, but um
more it may maybe more in the 40 or 50.
[27:27]
It was 40,000.
Yeah,
[27:29]
total
maybe 40 even just for CA.
[27:31]
You're complaining about the higher
number. Is that what you think?
[27:35]
Got to print out the whole thing.
Uh let's let's nail the number down
[27:38]
though. Let's make sure
it is
[27:40]
40,000. Okay. Request approval uh in the
amount of 40,000.
[27:46]
Yes.
[27:52]
So seconded.
All right. Uh any other discussion?
[27:58]
Roll call vote, please.
Yes.
[28:00]
Rollen.
Yes.
[28:01]
Member Shy.
Yes.
[28:04]
Member Dao. Yes.
Member Mcder.
[28:06]
Yes.
reports. Brian, what do you got?
[28:10]
Um,
we had pre-closing last week for all of
[28:14]
the bonds and and grants and uh bond
anticipation notes associated with all
[28:21]
these projects that we just approved
contracts for. The closing is set for
[28:25]
tomorrow. So, funds will be transferred
tomorrow
[28:30]
and we should be all set to go after
that. So,
[28:33]
that's all I've got.
Jim, no report, Mr. Mass. Mr. River.
[28:38]
Nothing, sir.
What's going on in the water department?
[28:40]
Nothing, mayor.
Not a thing, huh?
[28:43]
Not a thing.
Going well.
[28:46]
Everything's flowing well.
He He He's always smiling even though a
[28:50]
semitr dropped through the valves for
one of your water tower as a guy was
[28:55]
trying to get around the detour for the
parade. Uh, fortunately, he did not
[29:00]
break the pipes. It would have been a
interesting experience if he
[29:05]
It have been a wet one. It would have
been it was right next to the Jackson
[29:09]
Street water tower and it's the main
feed for the water tower and it would
[29:13]
have made one heck of a
water park.
[29:18]
Well, it would have been it would have
been a splash pad on steroid. It
[29:20]
probably would have lifted the truck
right out of the
[29:24]
uh chief. You got anything for us?
No report.
[29:27]
So,
no, sir.
[29:28]
No report. And uh
Chief Council, h happy to report that uh
[29:35]
the camera system that we have installed
in our police vehicles, they installed
[29:40]
20 of them uh have all been installed
and they are all currently working
[29:48]
and people are happy
and people are happy because it's
[29:51]
actually functioning the way it should.
So, so far it has been a good decision
[29:55]
and a good move on our part. The techn I
was over and watched the technology
[30:00]
is is absolutely amazing. You can see
where the cars are. You can actually see
[30:04]
a feed in the dispatch of what the car
is saying.
[30:08]
It's it's Yeah, it's a it's a neat neat
system and appears to be working 100%.
[30:13]
Correct.
Very pleased with that. Anything else,
[30:15]
Chief?
No, sir. Request approval of allowance
[30:17]
accounts payable voucher 74,932
through 74,243
[30:23]
totaling 1,8,455
[30:26]
and one lonely penny.
I move that the bills be paid.
[30:32]
Second.
Motion to second. Roll call, please.
[30:35]
Member Coffee,
yes.
[30:36]
Member Olson,
yes.
[30:38]
Member Shy,
yes.
[30:40]
Member Dao, yes.
Member McDner,
[30:43]
yes. Anybody have any other
visits for this evening?
[30:48]
Yes, I do. I was on here when you were
able to paint the crosswalks over at Car
[30:54]
Park and so forth and I I think my
doctor imposed walk every morning and I
[31:02]
I was I was walking here the other day
and there was a girl on a bike wanted to
[31:07]
cross there
and cars are just sitting right past
[31:11]
because there's no crossing car. And
then I go home and over by our house
[31:15]
subdivision there's we got the lights
and night and I'm thinking I'm hearing
[31:20]
how dangerous it is for the crossing
guards.
[31:23]
Is there any way we can look into
putting lights right there and down on
[31:31]
Wayne Street to make it even safer?
We have looked at those and I will let
[31:36]
uh Chief Whitm
actually that was something that uh Chad
[31:40]
and I just spoke of and we're actually
going to be making contact with our
[31:45]
electrical provider that has the big big
lights, not just the street light that
[31:50]
everyone has, but maybe flood lights or
something that will actually illuminate
[31:55]
the entire area a lot better than what
it currently is doing. The nice part
[31:59]
about Carlin, it looks like there is a
location that we could mount two over
[32:04]
that area. Uh, South Wayne, it looks
like there may be only one option, but
[32:10]
uh, we are definitely looking into those
with the additional painting and
[32:14]
everything else. South Wayne is by far
one of our most dangerous intersections
[32:18]
that we have, especially for crossing
guards. So, uh, that is something we are
[32:22]
looking at.
Exactly. I I was watching this poor
[32:24]
girl. She was waiting, cars are just
zipping past. They're like nothing. than
[32:27]
I might.
Well, mind you, I've been at the bicycle
[32:30]
crossing at Menard's and and Meyer and
it's flashing like crazy and they and
[32:35]
the top of the hill or there's a red
light and they still pay no attention.
[32:39]
That's that's just human nature.
But then but you're but you're at
[32:42]
hospital you pop the thing and and you
go come through. There's nothing for
[32:47]
those kids to do that. They're just
they're hoping I guess hope that the
[32:51]
cross does seem to work down west with
the knowledge by
[32:56]
the old church.
We haven't looked into those yet. This
[32:59]
is this is just additional.
I would like I I I guess I'd like to
[33:04]
have that looked into because if we're
putting one there for the crossing for
[33:07]
the the water park area, which I surely
the kids would go to school
[33:13]
or playground, do we know what that
cost? you talked about for the lights
[33:20]
there at the
Yeah, we had looked into doing that um
[33:23]
at the library maybe one to two years
ago and it was around the 15 to $20,000
[33:29]
range.
Now, is that should be similar to the
[33:32]
one that is near the new location of the
water park?
[33:35]
Yes.
Okay.
[33:36]
Yes.
Similar similar.
[33:38]
That's not the one by mine. That's the
one you try to go across hardcourt.
[33:41]
We're talking one by me.
One by you.
[33:44]
Okay. That's I'm thinking we're looking
at because it's got to be something.
[33:47]
Pricing is not that anymore.
Well, at our church, we
[33:50]
I'm just concerned about the safety
issue.
[33:52]
We've been looking at that at our church
and having the signal so it can be read
[33:55]
depending on either way the traffic is
coming. It's a 35 to $40,000 bill.
[34:01]
Just to give you an idea,
I'm also concerned about some little
[34:04]
kids. What's the value that that child?
Yep.
[34:07]
Just as we're talking about, we have an
idea what
[34:10]
might cost in a budget to do it. Well,
look at
[34:13]
schools aren't going to have money to
contribute. I can tell you that.
[34:17]
It's not something they've contributed
to in the past.
[34:19]
They definitely won't now with with the
budget. It affects them the most.
[34:24]
They're in worse shape than we're
working.
[34:27]
Uh any other new business?
Hearing none. The next council meeting
[34:31]
will be Monday, July 21st, 2025. We are
ajourned. Thank you.
[34:42]
See you in September. You know it.
Thanks for nonetheless. So they're not
[34:46]
me.