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All right,
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call this meeting to order. It's
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planning commission hearing and meeting
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March 11th, 2026. It's currently 6 p.m.
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and we'll start with the pledge of
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>> allegiance.
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I aliance to the flag of the United
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States of America and to the republic
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for which it stands, one nation under
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God, indivisible, with liberty and
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justice for all.
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Roll callish
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here harsh here. Bradley F here
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running here.
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>> Any conflicts of interest disclose?
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>> No. All right.
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>> Then I will open up the hanging item
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number one ordinance 0202608
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amend title 10.02.050
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building permit required 10.10.02
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agricultural zone and 10.10.050 050 RV
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rule state zone uh to allow water meters
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and service without a building permit
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and allow animal enclosures in the front
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and side yard of people's property.
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Rich, would you like to make any
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comments?
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>> Matter of fact,
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>> I figured
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>> a little comment here. I wrote this out
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in a little bit of a hurry, but it may
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not kind of fit in some partic.
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Okay. Richard Osaski 1024 West Little
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Pennyway, Apple Valley, Utah.
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This is about the animal enclosure
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amendment resing only that allows the
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placement of animal enclosures from the
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rear of the yard to the side and front.
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I met with a prominent local realtor,
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Porter team. Ron was his name. They he
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says this was this will affect your
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property values and not in a good way.
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But who cares about property values when
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the PC chair and the mayor live on a
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gated complex with 5 acre plus lots on
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280 acres? They don't have to worry
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about what is next door to them. Now all
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we have in our area is smelly air and
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dust. Gone is the fresh air. It wasn't
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that way when I moved here in 2009. No
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wonder it is hard to sell property here.
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There isn't any incentive to improve
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one's property.
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Why waste good money on something that
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will not bring back a return? Our mayor
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put into a resolution of a code of 300
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ft for a nuisance complaint. That
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doesn't help me when I have to roll up
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my windows as I drive by a front yard
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animal enclosure that is overloaded with
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horses, cows, and chickens
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or close my windows when the wind is
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blowing 25 miles in my direction. So why
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is the 300 ft resolution enforced but
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not the code violations? In my
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neighborhood, there have been a
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violation of front animal
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enclosures with chickens and goats since
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August 525.
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The first of three nuisance complaints,
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the last one dated February 2nd, 2026
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without any response until now with this
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code change. There were other complaints
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but they were over the 300 foot allowed
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allowance according to the code
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enforcer. As a matter of fact in our
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area the animal point system of cleaning
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and of horses and cow pins are not being
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enforced. So, one So, when a complaint
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comes in about a smell or not cleaning
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up after the animal in the front side
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yard, are you going to amend the section
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of the code to eliminate my violation?
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I don't come here without a solution.
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I have one. It is so simple,
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something myself and the majority would
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agree to. Let's have the mayor do one of
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his official Facebook surveys. And the
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question will be, should the town of
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Apple Valley do away with all nuisance
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complaints? No one likes nuisance
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complaints. Residents would rather
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ignore the violation or think it will
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never be next to them or even sell their
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house. To prove my point, let's show a
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show of hands of anyone in the room.
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Nope. anyone in the room or online that
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has ever turned in a nuisance complaint
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or have you verbally complain and was
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told to turn one in. They are not
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enforcing the why bother.
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I looked up several small towns around
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the area, couldn't find one that allowed
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animal enclosures in the front yard.
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There isn't any incentive to prove one's
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property. Why waste good money on
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something that will not bring back a
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return? This amendment is contradicting
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other code and I think it should be
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tabled. For instance, section F states
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30 ft from the property line. Then the
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amendment G says 10 ft from the property
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line and then 10-02-051
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of the billing permit says 50 ft from
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the property line. You can't have it
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both ways. Let's be honest, Apple Valley
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code enforcer is not going to enforce
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setbacks anyway. Final thoughts of the
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town.
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Let's go back to the beginning and be
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the laughing stock of Washington County
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or just plain go backwards.
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Thanks.
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>> Thank you, Re. Any other comments?
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Anyone online?
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>> Want to make a comment?
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>> Yeah, sure.
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I've uh filed a complaint, a verbal
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complaint that was immediately addressed
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twice.
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>> But you're you and I'm I me it's
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different.
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>> You ask if anybody filed complaint and
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had it helped.
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>> Yes.
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>> Nobody in our neighborhood has.
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>> All right. There's no online then I will
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close the hearing. Item number one,
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ordinance 0202608, amend title
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10.02.050,
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building permit required 10.10 10.02A
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agricultural zone and 10.10.050
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RE state zone and we'll move into
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discussion possible action. Item number
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two, ordinance 0202608 amend title
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10.02.050
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building permit required 10.10.02
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agricultural zone and 10.10.050
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rule state zone. You want to say
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anything about it, mayor?
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>> Yes, sir.
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I do agree with Rich on something and I
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would like to request that you guys when
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you consider your recommendation or your
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proposal on this on page number four in
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green you have letter oh my gosh it
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looks like G my glasses on item one and
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two I would like those eliminated from
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the recommendation if if you guys agree
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with that um I will approach that to
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council al also as I agree with Rich it
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is contradictive um I think having 50 ft
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away from the house and 30 ft from the
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property line is already in the
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ordinance up there and um I didn't catch
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it when I proof read it. Me and Bradley
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had talked about it earlier today and we
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were already planning that. So um that
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would be up to you guys. It's in the
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proposal, but I think when we get to
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council, that's going to be my
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recommendation to council is we just
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eliminate number one or number two and
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number G. That's it. Um I did do a poll
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on Facebook.
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>> Good.
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>> And uh I think there was only two people
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that didn't want animals in front yards.
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Um, and so that would put the everybody
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majority of people that voted on
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Facebook didn't care. If you drive
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around town, they're already doing it.
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Um, there's many other problems. Um,
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what people don't understand about
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property values is, sure, if you want to
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sell your property, um, property values,
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of course, you're worried about property
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values, but most people are here to stay
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longterm. If you're leaving, how much do
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I have to worry about you? You're not a
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registered voter. You're not going to
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live here anymore. But if you're
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staying, I worry about you. And if
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property values go up, you know what
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else goes up with that? Your taxes. So
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remember that. Every time property
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values go up around here, you long-term
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people, your taxes are assessed every
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year. And your property taxes go up. So
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yeah, you may make when you go to sell
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it 20 years from now, you may make
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another 10 20,000. I have a friend that
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bought a house uh 20 years ago and 30
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years ago in Compton and paid a little
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less than 100,000 for it and now it's
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valued at almost a million dollars.
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920,000. Never no improvements, nothing.
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just kept it up. So, don't talk about
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property values and animals and some
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junk piles over here. It doesn't really
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affect property values like people think
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it does. So, but if it does, you don't
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want your taxes to go up anyways.
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» All right. Yeah. So, this the amendment
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does two things. Allows for allows for
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water meters before a building permit to
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um and then it allows for animals in the
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front and backyards. But I agree with
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the mayor. If you look at item number G,
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it does say setbacks are 10 and 15 ft.
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And then right above in in item F, it
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says uh 30 ft and 50 ft. So if we do
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recommend approval, we'd want to
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>> get rid of that.
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>> Can you motion it since you understand
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it better?
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>> If you guys have any other comments,
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now's the time.
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>> Um, no. I'm just hoping it doesn't turn
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into a nuisance complaint factory. But
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>> yeah,
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>> maybe there aren't that many people that
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want to do this. Well, and the the
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nuisance will be the view of it, I
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think, because they're going to smell
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the same whether they're in the front or
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back,
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>> and they have to be, you know, 50 feet
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away from the house, whether it's in the
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front or the back, that doesn't, you
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know, it doesn't change. Still have to
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be x amount of feet with away from the
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house.
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>> Yeah. Now, I mean, if somebody builds
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some ratty pens in their front yard, I I
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get it then. And it's possible, but you
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know, you can't
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make rules for every last little thing,
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I don't think.
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>> Yeah. And I think there's a lot of
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people that have already have things set
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up, so they'd be grandfathered in
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anyway. And I know there's people around
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my neighborhood that have it in their
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front yard and it's great. I don't have
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any any issues with how they've got it
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or anything else. It's it's maintained.
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It looks good. It's taken care of.
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>> Yeah. If you maintain it properly,
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location doesn't really matter, right?
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>> Yeah.
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>> There's some properties that they can't
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locate it in the backyard. the way the
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property is.
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>> Mhm.
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>> Up against the hill. That's the issue.
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>> Go ahead. Sorry again.
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>> Okay. The one thing that I I would like
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to address is I think we all got an
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email
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uh concerning this whole topic here. And
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every time we get an email like that,
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it's constantly negative.
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Always. you didn't do this, you didn't
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do this, you changed this because you
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don't want to do this, you know,
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whatever the case may be.
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I mean, look at the whole situation and
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not just this. Look at the improvements
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that have happened in this town and not
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one person is saying, "Hey, good job."
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Not one person
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that is in this email that that we got.
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They don't recognize that. They just
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want to sit there and complain about
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things that like this. But if you're
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going to complain, fantastic. Go ahead
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and complain. But in the same respect,
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if you do something or you see something
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positive and ne positive for the town,
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applaud that. Don't just complain
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because it's
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it takes the morale out of everything
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when it's a constant complaint.
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So that's all I have to say. If
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everyone's good, then I'll I'll make a
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motion.
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I make a motion that we recommend
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approval on ordinance 0202608
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amend title 10.02.050
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building permit required, 10.10.02
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a agricultural zone and 10.10.050
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RE rule states and on 10.10.050
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RE rule states under item G, we remove
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the two setbacks of 10 and 15 ft. I
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second that.
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>> Motion second. Let's take a vote.
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>> I I
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>> I
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>> All right.
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>> Motion carries. All right. On to the
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minutes. I looked at them. They look
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good. You guys see any issues?
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>> No.
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>> All right. Anyone want a motion?
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>> I'll move that we approve the minutes of
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the planning commission meeting uh
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2.1126.
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>> I'll second.
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>> Motion second. Let's take a vote.
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>> I I
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>> I motion carries.
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>> Make the motion we adjourn. Second.
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>> All in favor?