[6:55] Good evening and welcome to our Tuesday,

[6:57] April 14th town council meeting. Uh

[6:59] we're going to go ahead and start with a

[7:01] work session though on the Midland

[7:03] design guidelines. Um and we've invited

[7:06] uh planning and zoning and we have Bill

[7:08] Marone here. So uh yeah. Yeah. And the

[7:12] rest of the council is in the room or

[7:14] online or coming in and uh Jessica

[7:16] Hubard's on. I see some folks. But uh I

[7:19] think this is going to be uh James and

[7:21] Carlton kind of running the show here um

[7:24] as far as the work session. So I will

[7:26] turn it over to you both.

[7:28] >> Carlton's going to run with it here.

[7:31] >> Good evening council. Uh

[7:33] >> actually before before you get started

[7:35] also this is a work session so like

[7:38] Elise you can come sit up here because

[7:40] this is you're going to be this is

[7:42] you're going to be part of this. So,

[7:44] everybody who's [clears throat] going to

[7:45] be part of it should be up here in the

[7:47] front as long as you guys are okay. I

[7:50] think it's Gloria and I talked about it.

[7:51] You you go with that,

[7:52] >> Jack? Just take Let's get up. Let's get close.

[7:56] >> This is a work session, not a council

[7:58] meeting. So, we want to, you know, the

[8:00] idea is we we've seen it. You've seen

[8:02] it. We have a new council that's going

[8:04] to come vote on this. Um so, we all want

[8:07] to level set on what we're going to do

[8:09] um together. So that way the next

[8:11] council when they vote on it, it's, you

[8:13] know, we've all kind of been there and

[8:15] spoken together. That's the idea. So

[8:18] Carlton, sorry.

[8:19] >> All good. Good evening, council. Carlton

[8:22] Henry, planner 2 with the town of Asalt.

[8:24] Uh, I'm here this evening to uh

[8:27] introduce a work session on the Midland

[8:30] Avenue District Design Guidelines. Um,

[8:33] we also have Jessica Hubard from uh GMJ

[8:36] Architects online uh who will be uh

[8:39] walking you guys through the work

[8:41] session and presenting the draft of the

[8:44] Midland Avenue District design

[8:46] guidelines. Just a little bit of

[8:48] background for the record. Uh this

[8:50] project began last summer when town

[8:52] council passed a resolution to approve a

[8:55] contract with GMA in order to pres

[8:57] perform consulting consulting services

[9:00] and establish architectural design

[9:02] guidelines in Basalt's historic

[9:05] commercial core. Uh 2025 was a milestone

[9:08] year in the history of Midland Avenue

[9:11] with the complete completion of the

[9:13] Midland Avenue streetscape project. The

[9:16] development of the Midland Avenue uh

[9:19] district design guidelines was a natural

[9:22] um

[9:24] uh successor to the completion of this

[9:26] project. Uh the completion or the

[9:29] creation of the architectural design

[9:30] guidelines seeks to implement the 2020

[9:33] basalt master plan goals regarding the

[9:36] historic character of Basalt as listed

[9:39] under related town statutes and/or town

[9:42] actions below. Over the last nine

[9:44] months, the consultant team has

[9:45] conducted research, engaged in extensive

[9:48] community outreach, and produced sever

[9:50] several drafts with consideration given

[9:52] to feedback from staff, [laughter]

[9:54] planning and zoning commission,

[9:56] architecture, and design industry

[9:58] professionals and members of the public.

[10:01] At the March 10th town council meeting,

[10:03] council considered a presentation of the

[10:05] design guidelines from GMA and requested

[10:08] that staff and the consultant team

[10:10] return for a work session at a future

[10:12] meeting. Council also requested that

[10:14] planning and zoning be invited to

[10:16] discuss the design guidelines with

[10:18] council in a work session. And as

[10:20] mentioned, we have Bill Marin here from

[10:22] planning and zoning um to provide input

[10:25] as well. GMJ architects have provided a

[10:28] draft of the district design guidelines

[10:30] for review by town council and that

[10:32] those design guidelines are linked in

[10:34] the agenda as well as in this memo

[10:36] below.

[10:37] Um,

[10:39] we ask that council hear a presentation

[10:41] from GMJ architects, ask questions of

[10:44] the consultant and of staff, provide

[10:47] feedback on the drafted design

[10:48] guidelines,

[10:50] um, and uh, I'll just add that a final

[10:53] draft of the design guidelines and a

[10:55] resolution will be presented at a future

[10:57] meeting for council approval. With that,

[11:00] if you guys have any questions, I'd be

[11:02] happy to answer any questions you may

[11:04] have. Otherwise, I will hand it over to

[11:06] Jessica.

[11:11] » Great.

[11:13] Go ahead, Jessica. You are muted, by the

[11:15] way.

[11:16] >> Okay, great. Yeah, I was wasn't sure if

[11:18] there were any questions. Uh, can

[11:21] everyone hear me? Okay. Slash see my

[11:23] screen.

[11:24] >> Yes.

[11:26] >> Okay, great. Well, yes. Uh, thank you,

[11:29] council, for having me this evening. I

[11:32] apologize. I'm not in person. Um, but

[11:35] I'm I'm very honored to be here and to

[11:37] present the design guidelines to you.

[11:40] Uh, tonight we are going to dig in a

[11:43] little bit deeper into what the

[11:45] guidelines specifically entail. And I

[11:49] know most of you have heard this

[11:50] presentation before, so I will try to

[11:52] give the background um just a few

[11:55] minutes. But for those that are new to

[11:57] the project, uh we're just going to talk

[11:59] about the history and what design

[12:01] guidelines are really quickly and then

[12:02] we'll dive into the draft itself. So, um

[12:06] for those of you that have not met me,

[12:08] my name is Jessica Huard. I'm an

[12:09] architect, planner, and uh principal of

[12:12] GMA.

[12:14] And uh we'll we'll dive in.

[12:21] Okay. So for those of you that are not

[12:23] familiar with what the project is, as

[12:26] Carlton gave a background, we were

[12:29] contracted by town planning to develop

[12:31] design guidelines for what we determined

[12:34] as the Midland Avenue district. So the

[12:37] district aligns with the C2 downtown

[12:39] business district in the zoning and then

[12:42] most properties that are fronting

[12:44] Midland Avenue. And we have a map that

[12:46] I'll get to in the next slide.

[12:50] So here you can see the district

[12:52] boundary. All of the buildings that are

[12:54] within the hatched blue region are

[12:59] buildings that will be um upheld to the

[13:02] design guidelines. Uh it's kind of hard

[13:05] to see on the screen, I'm sure, but the

[13:08] small orange circles represent what

[13:11] we're calling contributing buildings.

[13:13] And we'll get more into that when we

[13:15] talk about section two.

[13:18] So, what are design guidelines? As

[13:20] you've heard and as we've discussed many

[13:22] times with planning and zoning and with

[13:24] council on March 10, design guidelines

[13:27] are policies. We are thinking of them as

[13:30] an overlay to the existing zoning. They

[13:34] specifically describe architectural

[13:36] styles, features, and characteristics

[13:38] that essentially define what assault is.

[13:41] So for any new development or existing

[13:45] buildings that are purchased by an

[13:47] owner, a new owner, uh basically these

[13:50] guidelines are going to help them craft

[13:52] uh making more basalt and contributing

[13:55] to what basult sense of place is. And so

[13:59] they really are a planning tool. They're

[14:01] proactive planning tool and they'll be

[14:03] upheld by town planning staff or the

[14:05] commission through site plan and

[14:07] building permit review.

[14:11] And then just why design guidelines? As

[14:14] Carlton mentioned, 2025 was a large year

[14:17] for Basalt with the Midland Avenue

[14:19] streetscape project. And so the design

[14:22] guidelines will really support again

[14:25] creating more Basult celebrating the

[14:27] culture of Midland Avenue. It'll also

[14:30] provide a framework for the planning

[14:33] department so that as development comes

[14:35] down the valley as new owners are coming

[14:39] into town um new applicants they will

[14:42] have a framework to look to for when

[14:44] they are building new developments or

[14:48] altering existing buildings. And the

[14:50] guidelines help uh town planning and or

[14:54] the planning and zoning commission

[14:56] council property owners make informed

[14:58] decisions about these potential

[15:00] projects. And then also uh we in these

[15:05] guidelines are encouraging preservation

[15:08] of some of the salt's most unique and

[15:11] historic buildings. Uh and those are

[15:14] what we're referring to as the

[15:15] contributing buildings that we are

[15:18] encouraging preservation of.

[15:23] And then this we always like to

[15:24] highlight this in each presentation.

[15:27] This came from a resident of Basalt just

[15:30] asking what really makes Midland Avenue

[15:33] special. And if when you think about

[15:34] Midland Avenue, you think about the

[15:36] vibrant colors, the playful roof lines.

[15:40] Most of the buildings are either two or

[15:42] three stories, which means they're

[15:44] designed to human scale. They're not

[15:47] like a huge skyscraper making you feel

[15:49] like a small ant when you're walking on the street. Uh Midland Avenue really

[15:54] is designed to scale to human scale. It

[15:58] also has an inviting walkable street

[16:00] environment. And then there's a ton of

[16:03] connection to history and nature with

[16:05] Basalt being a railroad town. Uh there's

[16:09] a lot of history and connection to why

[16:12] Midland Avenue is the way that it is

[16:14] today. And then just to highlight that

[16:17] characteristics like this, playful roof

[16:19] lines, vibrant colors, the scale of

[16:22] buildings, um creating inviting walkable

[16:25] streets comes from storefront at the

[16:27] ground level. These are all

[16:29] characteristics that are driven by

[16:31] zoning, but they're reinforced by the

[16:33] design guidelines.

[16:37] So digging into the guidelines

[16:39] themselves, we have divided the

[16:42] guidelines into seven sections. So we'll

[16:46] start with the introduction section and

[16:48] then we'll dig into the meat of the

[16:49] guidelines which is the existing

[16:52] buildings and the new construction and

[16:54] then we'll conclude with sustainable

[16:56] design and the review processes in

[16:58] chapters six and seven.

[17:01] So section one, this is truly an

[17:04] introduction to how to use the

[17:06] guidelines, the history of basalt and uh

[17:11] what to expect in the design guidelines.

[17:14] So for example, just to put this project

[17:18] flow diagram to use, for example, I'd

[17:21] like you all to think about what if an

[17:23] owner, a new owner comes into the town

[17:26] of Basalt and they purchase the Alpine

[17:28] Bank. So they'd start at the top

[17:31] rectangle. So the project located in

[17:33] Midland Avenue District. Yes. Step one,

[17:36] does the project involve an existing

[17:38] building? Yes. Alpine Bank is existing.

[17:42] Two, is the building historic? Yes, we

[17:45] are considering that building a

[17:47] contributing building. So then we'd

[17:49] follow that line all the way down to um

[17:54] C-section 3.2 working on contributing

[17:56] buildings. And then we do have a

[17:58] subsection of is the building

[17:59] restorable, but I don't think we need to

[18:01] get into that during this work session

[18:04] unless council requires we dig into

[18:07] that. So anyway, just using that as an

[18:09] example of how to use the guidelines.

[18:11] Obviously, if a owner came in and

[18:14] purchased a parcel of land, I'm not sure

[18:16] where, that does not have an existing

[18:18] building, we would consider that new

[18:20] construction and then they would be

[18:21] directed to section five architecture

[18:23] and new construction.

[18:28] So then moving on to section two. This

[18:31] section we really dive into the history

[18:33] and character of Midland Avenue. So what

[18:37] architectural styles and periods of

[18:39] significance developed from the history

[18:41] of Basalt? And this section and chapter

[18:45] 3 really stem from whether or not to

[18:49] designate the Midland Avenue District as

[18:51] a national historic landmark district.

[18:53] And what that means is that it would be

[18:56] registered with the National Park

[18:58] Service and it would adhere to the

[19:02] Secretary of the Interior standards most

[19:04] of the buildings that are contributing.

[19:06] And so since that is not a that has not

[19:11] been formalized, this is the next best

[19:14] way to preserve some of these existing

[19:17] buildings that are so cherished by the entire town. And so in order to

[19:24] identify those contributing buildings,

[19:25] we also had to identify certain periods

[19:27] of significance. And if you're not

[19:29] familiar with that term, it's

[19:31] essentially a time frame in the context

[19:34] of historic preservation. So you're most

[19:37] likely familiar with the false front

[19:39] commercial period of significance or the

[19:42] queen revival is or there's those are

[19:45] probably the top two that you're most

[19:47] familiar with with buildings around the

[19:49] soul.

[19:52] And then diving in a little bit deeper

[19:54] of what is in section two, we then took

[19:56] these periods of significance and we

[19:59] broke down in alignment with uh history

[20:02] Colorado which is our state historic

[20:04] preservation office. We broke down the

[20:07] history of these periods of significance

[20:09] and then we also identified common

[20:11] features so that say an individual comes

[20:15] in and wants to create more of a 19th

[20:19] century commercial building or wants to

[20:22] restore or recreate false front

[20:24] commercial. They have some of those

[20:25] common features.

[20:29] And then finally we outlined the

[20:32] contributing buildings. So these are the

[20:35] cherished buildings. These are buildings

[20:37] that if we ever wanted to, we could

[20:41] apply for these buildings to be listed

[20:43] on the national register because right

[20:45] now there are not many protections for

[20:48] these buildings. [clears throat] Uh an

[20:50] individual or or company or or whoever

[20:53] could come in and purchase these

[20:55] buildings and there's no protection that

[20:59] it's beyond just town planning.

[21:05] So naturally, if we're going to

[21:07] designate contributing buildings, we

[21:09] need to talk about how to treat these

[21:11] existing buildings. So in section three,

[21:14] we begin to outline types of existing

[21:17] buildings. So this is where we define

[21:20] historic, contributing,

[21:21] non-contributing, and non-historic

[21:23] because there is a difference. We then

[21:26] go into the recommended treatments of

[21:28] historic features. And this all comes

[21:30] from the Secretary of the Interior

[21:33] standards. So preserve, repair, replace,

[21:35] reconstruct. That those are the four

[21:38] types of treatment. Um so a lot of this

[21:40] is is in direct alignment with the

[21:43] National Park Service. And then we also

[21:46] go into discourage treatments.

[21:48] Naturally, demolition is a very large

[21:51] discourage treatment for historic

[21:53] buildings. But then we talk about

[21:55] exterior alterations, additions, and

[21:58] then treatments of some of these

[22:00] details. So, foundations, windows,

[22:02] historic doors, roofs, materials, things

[22:06] like that.

[22:08] And so, tonight, the format is a little

[22:10] different than our presentation on March

[22:13] 10th. I really wanted council to see how

[22:17] the guidelines align directly with the

[22:20] checklist for an applicant. And so the

[22:24] checklist is divided into two sections.

[22:27] It's essentially existing and new

[22:29] construction. And so I've included a

[22:32] snip here for you all to see. We have a

[22:36] different row, different line items. So

[22:38] site, foundation, window and window

[22:41] openings, doors, roofs, and then other.

[22:45] And then when you dig into the

[22:46] guidelines, you start to see that those

[22:50] line items are tied directly to the

[22:53] guidelines. So here we have where we

[22:55] talk about the work on contributing

[22:57] buildings, the different types of

[23:00] treatments and then we start to talk

[23:02] about historic sites. Again, this comes

[23:04] from directly from the secretary of the

[23:07] interior standards. So, for example, if

[23:10] someone wants to come and purchase

[23:12] Alpine Bank and they want to move it,

[23:14] that is not recommended or allowed per

[23:17] the Secretary of Interior standards. So,

[23:20] just trying to layer in some of those

[23:22] parameters for historic buildings.

[23:27] And then, you all saw this last time,

[23:29] but just some more diagrams of how to

[23:32] treat historic doors and entries. So you

[23:35] can see in this diagram on the left, the

[23:37] top left, we're showing the window

[23:40] proportions, original [clears throat]

[23:42] window openings have been reduced from

[23:46] two single hung windows to one, but

[23:49] we're still maintaining the same

[23:51] proportions. And then similarly on the

[23:54] bottom, you can see that there used to

[23:56] be a door here, but in the process of

[24:01] infilling it, now the proportions are

[24:03] the same. it's just been turned into a

[24:06] wall. So, and then on the right hand

[24:08] side here is an example of how to treat

[24:11] historic roofs. Uh at the top, the

[24:15] historic roof has not been altered.

[24:16] That's acceptable. In the middle,

[24:18] dormers have been added to the rear

[24:20] elevation. That's acceptable. But what's

[24:24] not recommended is a [clears throat]

[24:26] front gable dormer has been added to the

[24:28] primary elevation and dominates the

[24:30] facade. So again, just thinking about

[24:33] and showing design characteristics that

[24:37] tie back to the historic nature of the

[24:39] contributing or non-contributing

[24:41] building.

[24:43] And then I just wanted to show one more

[24:46] example of how we're thinking about

[24:49] what's acceptable, what's not permitted.

[24:51] So you can see here on the original

[24:54] building

[24:55] uh now the alteration there's an

[24:59] appropriate awning that's been added but

[25:02] if you see in the not permitted diagram

[25:03] that that awning is slightly too large

[25:06] and it's covering the brick recess or

[25:09] the brick sign uh panel and then

[25:12] similarly you can see that the original

[25:15] cornness was kept in the acceptable

[25:17] version but removing the cornness is not

[25:20] permitted. So again, small details that

[25:23] uh are acceptable and nonacceptable.

[25:29] So moving on in section four, this is

[25:33] now applying to new construction and in

[25:36] this section we are focusing on anything

[25:40] with the site. So, compatible infill,

[25:43] parking, landscaping,

[25:47] um signage, what's appropriate, what's

[25:49] not appropriate, overhangs and awnings,

[25:52] arcades and galleries, uh really

[25:54] focusing on [clears throat] those design

[25:57] elements that contribute to a site and

[25:59] not necessarily the design of the

[26:01] building.

[26:03] And then looking at the checklist again,

[26:06] you can see that the line items directly

[26:08] correlate with the section. So in this

[26:11] checklist we have a line item for site

[26:14] design, compatible infill, parking and

[26:17] curb cuts, landscaping, fencing and

[26:19] overhangs. And then moving on to show

[26:22] you some of the diagrams. So here we

[26:25] have compatible infill. This just shows

[26:29] uh we have more diagrams but you can see

[26:31] here in the diagram on the bottom where

[26:33] the building that is extremely recessed

[26:37] is not allowed. And a lot of this

[26:39] overlaps with zoning, but just to show a

[26:43] diagram of of what's expected and and

[26:46] what will contribute to a walkable and

[26:49] inviting streetscape. And then we're

[26:53] also identifying that we prefer when the

[26:56] facades align and also aligning with

[27:00] zoning that there is a zero lot line. So

[27:02] zero foot setback from the property

[27:05] line. And then here we're showing just

[27:09] appropriate and not appropriate awning

[27:12] treatments. So you can see up here in

[27:14] the top right where the awning is

[27:17] covering a part of the building and

[27:18] extending past the opening. That's not

[27:20] acceptable. Whereas we would prefer that

[27:24] the awning is broken up or if it's

[27:27] extending over a piece of the building

[27:29] that that piece of the building is a max

[27:31] of 2 feet. And so these are proportions

[27:33] and uh design elements that we've

[27:37] studied and we came up with some of

[27:39] these parameters for how to make more of

[27:43] a salt. And then keep in mind that again

[27:47] everything that we're talking about in

[27:48] section four, five, and six, well six

[27:52] could be for existing four and five are

[27:54] for new buildings. So, anything that's

[27:56] already existing on Midland Avenue is

[27:59] essentially grandfathered in unless they

[28:01] were to apply for any alterations moving

[28:03] forward.

[28:07] And then here's another example of one

[28:09] of our diagrams uh showing arcade

[28:13] treatment and dimensions. So, it's

[28:16] recommended that the arcade is 10 and

[28:18] 1/2 ft minimum.

[28:21] um that the arcade is minimum 60% of the

[28:24] overall length just so that it doesn't

[28:27] feel too short. Um the bulkhead is what

[28:32] this is called. The area under the

[28:34] storefront is 18 in minimum. So again,

[28:36] just small guard rails to help um

[28:40] contribute to making more of a soul.

[28:45] And then here is a snip from our sign

[28:48] matrix. we start to build on what's

[28:52] already in the zoning code. So we go

[28:54] into the different types of signs. Um

[28:57] and then so a wall or projecting that

[29:00] layers in with what's existing into the

[29:02] zoning code. But then we go and define a

[29:04] wall sign versus a sign band versus a

[29:07] blade sign. Um a vinyl decal, what

[29:11] percentage is allowed, things like that.

[29:13] And then I just want to point out that

[29:15] the town of Basalt sign application must

[29:18] be in must be completed in addition to

[29:21] the COA checklist. So uh we already have

[29:24] some processes in place, but this again

[29:28] builds and reinforces the zoning code

[29:31] and what processes are already in place.

[29:36] And then finally, we're at architecture,

[29:39] which is the bulk of the design

[29:42] guidelines.

[29:44] And so here we're really digging into

[29:46] the details. We are outlining guidelines

[29:50] for windows, detailing,

[29:53] um, massing and scaling, doors, building

[29:56] entrances, roofs, and exterior

[29:59] materiality.

[30:01] And this is uh continued in the new

[30:04] construction checklist. And so you can

[30:06] see those line items align with what I

[30:09] just showed. So transparency, windows

[30:12] and window openings, doors and door

[30:14] openings.

[30:16] And then here in this column, there are

[30:18] specific requirements. So transparency,

[30:21] there's a ground floor percentage, upper

[30:23] level percentage, and then do the

[30:25] windows meet the proportion and size

[30:27] requirements, yes or no. And if if no,

[30:30] the applicant would have to explain what

[30:32] their reasoning for that is.

[30:36] So here we break down some of the

[30:38] minimums and maximums of that

[30:40] transparency requirement. So how much

[30:43] glazing

[30:45] is allowed at the ground level versus on

[30:47] level two or level three. And here you

[30:50] can see the basically the hatch of of

[30:54] what that transparency should be, the

[30:56] minimum and the maximum. And then down

[30:59] here we [clears throat] just have some

[31:00] simple simple equations for proportions.

[31:03] Um, and it it looks a little scary, but

[31:06] if you do the math, you can you can

[31:07] actually see that there's a lot of

[31:09] flexibility in that, but the equation

[31:11] just allows for maintaining proportions.

[31:17] And then roof lines. It was really

[31:19] important for our team and we received

[31:22] this feedback from a lot of our survey

[31:25] results that the playful roof lines is very uh distinct in basalt. And so we

[31:34] created some guidelines around how to

[31:36] recreate that. So uh if a if there's a

[31:39] roof plane change it has to be 12 in

[31:42] minimum. You can see that in these

[31:44] existing buildings on Midland A. It's

[31:46] currently 4 and 1/2 ft. Similarly, on

[31:49] the other side, it's 40 in and there's a

[31:52] 12 in minimum. So, it's a guardrail.

[31:54] It's it's very small in comparison to

[31:58] what's actually on Midland, but it just

[32:00] ensures that we can maintain playful

[32:03] roof lines.

[32:07] And then this is pretty textheavy, but

[32:09] essentially we dig into encouraged

[32:12] materials. So peach glow brick is um is

[32:16] a vernacular material to the valley.

[32:19] Novelty sighting is a material that is

[32:23] uh

[32:25] it's part of the uh periods of

[32:28] significance. So wean Victorian and uh

[32:32] false commercial both have no novelty

[32:34] sighting traditionally or wood sighting.

[32:37] However, wood sighting is prohibited in

[32:39] accordance with an ordinance in the

[32:41] zoning code. So exterior cladding shall

[32:43] be composed of fire retardant and

[32:45] non-combustible materials such as etc. And then uh we also have some

[32:52] requirements around storefront windows.

[32:54] So the minimum exterior mullions must be

[32:57] 1 in exterior mins must must be 3/4 of

[33:01] an inch which essentially we're talking

[33:03] about what's dividing the panes of glass

[33:06] in the storefront. And then again I had

[33:09] put this in another diagram at the

[33:11] bulkhead there's a min and a max

[33:13] suggestion and then material materiality

[33:17] around doors. So wood aluminum

[33:20] storefront or proposition panelized

[33:22] design is encouraged.

[33:27] And then section six is is pretty small

[33:30] but it's very straightforward. Here we

[33:33] are talking about just recommendations

[33:35] for applicants and owners on how to make

[33:39] their building more sustainable. So we

[33:41] go into different types of green

[33:44] certifications that they could pursue.

[33:46] And then here in this diagram, we tried

[33:48] to do an all-in-one showing what

[33:51] sustainable strategies

[33:53] you could implement into your building

[33:55] and how you could treat that, especially

[33:57] if it's a contributing building. So,

[33:59] where your solar panel array could go,

[34:02] where your bike rack should should fall,

[34:06] uh where awnings could be, and then uh

[34:10] how you can control solar heat gain,

[34:12] things like that.

[34:15] And then finally, so review process.

[34:17] This is where we talk about the

[34:18] certificate of appropriateness

[34:20] checklist, which we've been talking

[34:22] about for the duration of this

[34:24] presentation. But then we also have a

[34:28] another flow diagram of when you need a

[34:31] [clears throat] COA. Um, essentially if

[34:33] your project's located in Midland

[34:35] Avenue, you will need to fill out the

[34:37] checklist and submit the application.

[34:40] And then once you have an approved COA,

[34:43] then you can proceed to site plan review

[34:45] and or building permit. And then in this

[34:49] section, we also talk about appeals to

[34:51] the design guidelines. So

[34:52] [clears throat] any building types that

[34:54] may not apply such as a monumental

[34:57] building uh as we've discussed before

[34:59] like the library would be an example of

[35:01] a monumental building that are typically

[35:04] civic or institutional in nature. And

[35:07] then there's also a few sentences about

[35:10] a form that applicants could fill out if

[35:14] they feel that their design should not

[35:17] or does not meet the design guidelines.

[35:23] And then this was asked about on March

[35:25] 10th. So we just threw this in here, the

[35:27] glossery of terms. So I'm sure I've said

[35:30] a few things tonight that some of you

[35:32] are not familiar with. Uh so if if any

[35:36] of those questions come up as an

[35:37] applicant is reviewing the guidelines,

[35:39] they can uh head to section 8. And there

[35:43] are a lot of definitions here and

[35:45] diagrams too.

[35:49] And then just wanted to

[35:52] uh remind council that this uh process

[35:55] was very extensive with the community.

[35:58] Um we hosted two open houses. We were

[36:02] consistently posting on Let's Talk the

[36:04] Salt for those that were unable to

[36:06] attend our in-person sessions. We met

[36:08] with planning and zoning and we also

[36:11] attended the farmers market to get the

[36:13] word out about the project at the

[36:15] beginning. So, we've gotten extensive

[36:18] feedback from the community and from

[36:20] town planning staff. Uh, and we feel

[36:24] very strong that this has been a

[36:27] community centered approach from the

[36:30] beginning.

[36:32] And then you all saw this on March 10th,

[36:34] but this just gives you a timeline of of

[36:37] how we got here. So, we were at the

[36:39] farmers market. We conducted a survey.

[36:42] Then we came up with the first draft

[36:44] which we presented at the open house

[36:46] number one. We had draft number one ords

[36:50] that were posted on let's talk basalt.

[36:52] Then we revised and came back with draft

[36:55] number two.

[36:57] We presented draft number two to

[36:59] planning and zoning commission as well

[37:02] as the second openhouse. And then we

[37:04] took all of that feedback and compiled

[37:08] the we had two versions of draft number

[37:11] three because we also got some feedback

[37:12] on let's talk the soul and some of the

[37:16] commissioners gave us feedback as well.

[37:18] And then uh that brings us to the PNZ

[37:23] commission recommendation to council on

[37:24] February 17th. We uh continue to work on

[37:29] the draft that was up on Let's Talk the

[37:31] Salt. And then we now have the final

[37:33] draft which all of the diagrams and all

[37:36] the information that you saw tonight is

[37:38] part of that final draft. And then uh

[37:41] you all saw me on March 10th and here we

[37:44] are on April 14th.

[37:48] So the next steps have not changed. Um I

[37:52] look forward to discussing. Um sorry I

[37:54] took a little bit longer but hopefully

[37:56] we have some good time to answer any

[37:59] questions or concerns that you may have.

[38:01] Um otherwise the next step remains the

[38:05] same. Team is requesting a resolution

[38:07] for adoption at a future meeting and

[38:09] I'll open it up to the floor for

[38:11] questions.

[38:12] >> Thanks Jessica. Every time we go through

[38:14] this I learn something uh new in this in

[38:16] this space. So appreciate it. What

[38:18] questions or comments do you all have?

[38:24] » Well I wanted to make a comment

[38:28] that goes way way back.

[38:31] I've been on turn that way.

[38:33] >> I've been on planning commission for a

[38:34] while now and I participated in three

[38:38] master plans chairing two of them and

[38:41] every single one the the subject of

[38:44] small town character or community

[38:46] character was the major subject to

[38:49] everyone in every public outreach from

[38:51] the very beginning and everything that

[38:54] people complain about for every large

[38:56] project we have ever seen downtown or

[38:59] not. And so, um, you know, with with the

[39:02] that being of such a high importance to

[39:05] the electorate at large and the citizen

[39:08] body at large, um, there has been in the

[39:11] past a lot of pressure for the town to

[39:14] institute design review boards,

[39:18] which having worked in development for

[39:20] in mountain towns for 30 years, those

[39:22] are just a nightmare to deal with. and

[39:25] they can and sometimes do get co-opted

[39:28] in in strange and funny ways. And um

[39:32] Aspen does it, Tellelurai does it,

[39:34] Mammoth Lakes does it, and I've dealt

[39:35] with all of those boards. And they

[39:38] aren't they don't really function as

[39:40] intended, but people feel like, oh,

[39:41] they're there doing their thing, but um

[39:44] they make development really really

[39:46] painful and you get results that the

[39:50] community doesn't necessarily like and

[39:53] it's more impedimented to the process.

[39:55] But the thing about this design review

[39:57] guidelines that I as an architect

[40:00] working in the community for a long time

[40:02] have felt would be is useful is it's

[40:04] very prescriptive. You can look at it

[40:07] and know what you can do, what you can't

[40:09] do. It's been through a rigorous public

[40:11] process, so it's very defensible.

[40:14] It is is it always the best design? No.

[40:18] Is it a pain in the ass? Yeah. But um

[40:21] for a lot of people coming here, they

[40:23] come here for downtown and we even have

[40:27] a similar process in Willlets. It's

[40:28] different because Willlets is different,

[40:30] but you know, it's it's I think it's

[40:32] really useful and it's very

[40:35] it's simpler than it seems for the staff

[40:37] to administer and it's simpler for

[40:42] uh the planning commission to deal with

[40:44] because you have prescriptive rules just

[40:46] like with the with our master plan. um

[40:49] is very clear what we wanted and it's

[40:53] very easy to judge a project before us

[40:55] based upon those criteria and those

[40:58] criteria are all vetted by the

[40:59] community. So it you have something to

[41:01] stand on. So that's why you know for us

[41:05] as a board this is a very useful tool.

[41:10] >> Thank you for your comments. Yeah, I

[41:12] tend to agree. It's you want something

[41:13] that's going to define and help people.

[41:15] But if it's too constrictive and not

[41:18] just prescriptive, but you know

[41:20] constricts people their ability to get

[41:22] things done and makes it painful, then

[41:24] >> yeah,

[41:24] >> why you know that's not that's not what

[41:26] we want to do. And I I agree. I don't

[41:28] think this does that.

[41:29] >> And design review boards can be fairly

[41:30] capriccious.

[41:32] >> You know, um HBC and Aspen can be a real

[41:36] pain in the ass. And this wouldn't be

[41:38] like that. that you know it's not like

[41:40] you're going in front of a board who you

[41:42] know may like dislike you for other

[41:43] reasons or you know Clark and

[41:46] [clears throat] Tellyide which has

[41:48] political concerns and you know or

[41:50] Mammoth Lakes kind of backed off of

[41:52] theirs and went more to a prescriptive

[41:55] planning uh department-based process as

[41:59] opposed to a board which you know I had

[42:02] been in front of that board a number of

[42:03] times and you couldn't figure out what

[42:04] they wanted. So that that's why this is useful.

[42:10] What else? What other thoughts and

[42:12] comments with this?

[42:15] >> Well, I you know, Bill's touched on a

[42:17] lot of things I was going to say. I

[42:18] think that small town character has

[42:20] always been a negotiation

[42:23] at every level, and people have

[42:25] different definitions of what that is.

[42:28] For me, it's uh

[42:30] in especially with Midland Avenue, it's

[42:33] the scale, it's the simpleness, it's the

[42:36] organic nature of it. it's well

[42:37] balanced. um you know and and it stayed

[42:41] that way for a long time and then in the

[42:43] last 10 years it you know the changes

[42:47] have accelerated significantly and some

[42:50] of them were

[42:53] you know took a long time to resolve you

[42:55] know and and I'm not talking about the

[42:57] replacement of the infrastructure and

[42:58] things like that but just other things

[43:00] that were [laughter] built on top of

[43:01] that that started to enhance or

[43:04] potentially detract from what was a

[43:07] quintessent ential description, you

[43:09] know, of a mountain town or described as

[43:11] quintessential. I think that

[43:14] um it's a multi-generational

[43:17] downtown and it's taken 125 years to get

[43:21] to where it is and the last 20 have

[43:23] probably been the most challenging I

[43:25] would say. But the success of

[43:29] recognizing the importance of downtown

[43:31] Midland and the confluence of the rivers

[43:33] and fighting hard to keep the post

[43:35] office a gathering place. You know,

[43:37] someone mentioned that

[43:40] you'd say, "Well, we'd meet at the post

[43:42] office." People are saying now, "Well,

[43:44] we'll meet at the statue of this." So,

[43:47] but I so I think there's a transition

[43:48] that we see that could commercialize it

[43:52] more than it needs to be and keep that

[43:54] same feeling that it's a place you

[43:56] return to and that you do it mult, you

[44:00] know, multiple times over your life. Um,

[44:03] we don't yet know what the full-time

[44:05] occupancy of the building across the

[44:07] street's going to bring. So, you know,

[44:10] what's next with that? I really think

[44:13] too that on the technical side, those

[44:15] are all tactical type conversations. I

[44:18] think the construction impacts um really

[44:22] have to be part of that checklist.

[44:25] You know, construction management plans,

[44:28] schedules, um planning, notifications,

[44:34] uh

[44:35] you know, oversight,

[44:38] management of those things to tear down

[44:40] and replace. You mentioned foundations,

[44:43] there's a groundwater issue here on the

[44:45] street. Um, things like that that you

[44:48] know below grade construction,

[44:51] all that stuff gets to be very

[44:53] complicated in a core like this. So, I

[44:56] think that's got to be taken into

[44:57] consideration and maybe P&Z can bring

[45:00] some expertise to the table with someone

[45:02] that could advise on that. Uh but other

[45:05] than that, if we can keep it low impact,

[45:07] organic,

[45:09] balanced in a way that doesn't overwhelm

[45:11] one thing or the other, the spaces that

[45:14] are open now, the alleys, all the little

[45:16] funky places need to be maintained,

[45:20] stuff like that.

[45:22] >> Thanks, Rick.

[45:28] This is a very minute thing, but I grew

[45:31] up in a historic district in a historic

[45:33] house, and the thing that my parents

[45:35] always complained about was the single

[45:37] pane windows and not being able to

[45:40] upgrade to a double pane window. And I

[45:42] saw in section six it says you should

[45:45] maintain the original window. And I'm

[45:47] all for original window shape, size,

[45:51] vibe. Um, but if someone wants to update

[45:56] the actual window in there, I I would

[45:58] feel fine about that.

[46:00] >> Can you comment on that? Is that

[46:02] >> My understanding is that would be the

[46:04] wood and the frame and not the actual

[46:06] glass. The glass could be it could be

[46:08] rebuilt, so to speak, but I don't

[46:10] [clears throat and cough] know

[46:11] >> exactly. So, because those historic

[46:15] buildings are technically not

[46:16] registered, you could very well replace

[46:20] all of the windows. um if a building if

[46:22] a contributing building is on the

[46:24] national register then it's it is very

[46:27] difficult to get away from the single

[46:29] pane window but um and maybe I should

[46:32] revisit the section 66 fix language

[46:35] because that is our sustainability

[46:36] section where upgrading to an energy

[46:39] efficient envelope would be encouraged

[46:42] and so uh yeah the the guidelines

[46:45] honestly this is the the perfect

[46:48] application of having a historic quote

[46:50] unquote building, but also being able to

[46:53] upgrade it to more quote unquote modern

[46:56] systems and energy efficiencies.

[47:01] » That's a good call.

[47:03] >> Yeah.

[47:03] >> Anything else like that that we need to

[47:06] kind of make sure we got baked into this

[47:08] before it comes back for resolution.

[47:14] » All right.

[47:15] >> Well, um it's 5:46 and now we have our

[47:17] regular meeting.

[47:19] >> Yes. This is I didn't know if you wanted

[47:20] to do this. I just did see some people

[47:22] in the audience. I don't know if you

[47:23] wanted to invite have any public comment

[47:25] or anything on this on the Yeah, if you

[47:28] wanted to.

[47:29] >> So, yeah, Laura, I know we've had others

[47:31] come in since, but Laura, if you have

[47:33] anything,

[47:34] >> you know,

[47:35] >> feel free to come up to the mic.

[47:41] » Thanks, Jeff. Yeah, sure.

[47:42] >> Thank you. I appreciate being able to

[47:43] sit in and listen to um this, I guess.

[47:49] My question remains

[47:51] whether we're dealing with historical or

[47:55] design wish list. And sometimes I think

[47:58] that they get

[48:01] um mixed in together.

[48:04] So I guess my concern is

[48:07] the purpose of this document, this

[48:10] overlay.

[48:11] Is it historical? Is it design wish

[48:13] list? Is it both? I don't know. Um

[48:21] I I will say I don't think there's been

[48:24] rigorous community input.

[48:27] Um I've had to

[48:30] proactively find out where meetings are

[48:35] to find the information. You know, it it

[48:37] I went to a meeting, the second meeting,

[48:39] there were four people there from the

[48:40] community. Um so that's my observation.

[48:46] Um,

[48:48] and then my final one again since you

[48:50] asked is, um,

[48:55] and I know it's been explained to me a

[48:56] few times, but how an overview overlay

[49:00] guideline, how what the relationship

[49:03] specifically is to the C2 zoning. So, if

[49:06] someone's asking,

[49:08] I want to do something that it's been

[49:10] zoned for,

[49:12] which comes first, I guess, or

[49:14] >> like the use or the uh or the I don't

[49:18] know that's like might be a planner

[49:21] question to answer but

[49:24] >> yeah so so the these guidelines were

[49:27] designed with the zoning in mind and are

[49:29] compatible with the the C2 zoning as

[49:32] well um so that includes uses any kind

[49:36] of standards like setbacks

[49:38] um

[49:39] >> so this doesn't

[49:41] infringe on the C2

[49:43] >> that's that's correct Okay.

[49:46] >> Um

[49:47] those are my comments. Thank you for

[49:48] your time.

[49:49] >> Can you comment on the uh the design

[49:51] wish list versus um

[49:54] >> yeah so so these guidelines similar to

[49:56] our housing uh guidelines uh are a town

[50:00] regulation. Um but it's not zoning code.

[50:04] Those two things are legally separate

[50:06] and Jeff could probably expound upon

[50:08] those at length um if you guys need. But

[50:12] uh so it it is a town regulation and

[50:16] applicants uh for development in the

[50:20] town who qualify

[50:22] by being in the Midland Avenue District

[50:26] will be required to provide um

[50:29] documentation through the COA form that

[50:32] Jessica prov uh you know touched on and

[50:35] is provided as a part of the packet

[50:36] materials um for redevelopment

[50:40] um within the Midland land avenue

[50:42] district.

[50:43] Uh, does that answer your question?

[50:46] >> That for me it does. Laura, I mean hard

[50:49] >> more or less. I I um

[50:51] >> Can you come back up? Sorry.

[50:57] » The COA is an interesting thing to me.

[51:00] Um, and I just ask that you look at that

[51:03] closely. Um,

[51:06] yeah, but I I I got what you're saying.

[51:09] But the the COA I read that and I was I

[51:11] don't know just take a look at it.

[51:14] >> I I have one real quick quick

[51:16] hypothetical then I think that's going

[51:17] to probably Laura's question and concern

[51:20] is that let's say someone bought

[51:22] Temperno wants to build a whole new

[51:24] building. It has to fit into these

[51:27] guidelines. Correct? Because it's late

[51:29] in the zone district. Yet the building

[51:32] next door is from 1980 and completely

[51:36] different. And so if if someone came and touched on a handful of these, maybe

[51:42] it's not everything,

[51:44] then does that supersede

[51:47] does this supersede the the general

[51:50] building guidelines that if it if it

[51:53] doesn't if it doesn't have the perfect

[51:54] brick front and a door in this way and

[51:57] the window in this way and a certain

[52:00] awning,

[52:02] does that mean that they have to go back

[52:04] and check everything in these

[52:07] guidelines.

[52:08] >> So, I I I see this as like a two-part

[52:12] question here. So, the the one answer

[52:15] would be that if it's a if it's new

[52:18] construction that it follows the new

[52:20] construction section of this. If it's

[52:23] redevelopment of an existing building

[52:25] such as Temperno, it would follow the redevelopment

[52:30] section of the design guidelines. In

[52:33] regard to the buildings that were

[52:37] constructed before these guidelines were

[52:40] uh established, which you know there are

[52:42] a lot of buildings um on Midland that

[52:46] are similar to what you're referring to

[52:48] that late 20th century architecture. Um

[52:53] those are not going to be required. you can't require folks to go back and

[52:59] institute architectural elements to a

[53:03] building that is non-contributing.

[53:05] And so Jessica touched on that a little

[53:07] bit, but the contributing buildings have

[53:10] a different standard uh for replacement.

[53:13] So you're not going to be required to go

[53:14] back and uh put in V Victorian elements

[53:18] to a building that was built in 1985.

[53:20] >> But then that so then this would

[53:22] supersede just a C2C zoning. This is

[53:24] like redirecting the zoning is kind of

[53:26] what she's asking like

[53:28] >> Ryan [clears throat] actually zoning

[53:30] applies. So zoning is really dimensional

[53:33] requirements and uses, right?

[53:35] >> Y

[53:35] >> so the dimensional requirements and uses

[53:38] are are limitations in zoning that that

[53:40] would apply to a new project that would

[53:43] apply to improvements to an existing

[53:47] project, an expansion to or other

[53:51] property that's existing. Um, you also

[53:55] have the guidelines which the guidelines

[53:58] have certain requirements in them and

[54:01] there's a waiver process that if if

[54:05] certain requirements

[54:06] don't fit the historic nature of the

[54:09] building which Tempo and some of the

[54:12] other properties on Midland Avenue are

[54:15] designated historic through our local

[54:18] historic designation program. um they

[54:21] have to be the improvements would have

[54:23] to be compatible with the existing

[54:26] >> character and nature of the structure

[54:29] >> but it's an it's an added layer

[54:31] >> sure

[54:32] >> of restriction to a building that's

[54:35] designated in this map

[54:36] >> correct

[54:38] >> that that's the answer Lauren's looking

[54:40] for

[54:40] >> it doesn't change the zoning zoning but

[54:44] that building is going to have to fit in

[54:47] if I'm going to redevelop temperno right

[54:49] now Yes,

[54:50] >> it has to fit in to everything on this

[54:52] checklist. E

[54:53] >> either that or get a waiver and and so

[54:56] >> so there is a waiver process.

[54:58] >> There is a waiver process and and

[55:00] >> you know for Temperno which is a

[55:02] historic building and and fits into one

[55:04] of the timelines that that was

[55:07] established in the guidelines. We

[55:10] wouldn't be looking to you know

[55:13] requiring brick on tempo which

[55:16] >> wouldn't fit with the time period. But

[55:18] let's say you're going to scrape

[55:19] temperno.

[55:20] >> Yeah.

[55:20] >> Right. And take advantage of the lot,

[55:22] >> right?

[55:23] >> Yeah, you can.

[55:23] >> Yeah, we can.

[55:24] >> Yeah, you could do whatever you want.

[55:25] It's the C2C. This doesn't protect the

[55:28] building.

[55:29] >> No, but we have historic protections

[55:31] through our historic designation and

[55:33] certain properties including Temperno

[55:36] are historically designated under the

[55:38] current code.

[55:39] >> That that's separate from these design

[55:41] guidelines.

[55:42] My only point and what I think you're

[55:44] saying is that you're adding more

[55:47] restriction on certain buildings

[55:51] um

[55:53] >> certain buildings get it and certain

[55:54] buildings don't in this overlay. We're shooting we're hoping for

[55:58] >> and so character.

[56:00] >> Yeah. So what

[56:03] >> honestly what do you what do you provide

[56:05] for the building owner

[56:06] >> to give that up? Well, and and actually

[56:09] just as clarification, all buildings get

[56:12] additional design guidelines. So, it's

[56:14] not just historic buildings. It's not

[56:16] just certain buildings. These design

[56:19] guidelines apply to all buildings in the

[56:21] district

[56:25] or would would apply if adopted.

[56:27] >> And thank you for the feedback on the uh

[56:29] on the communication process, Laura.

[56:31] We'll we'll talk about

[56:36] >> All right. Well, it's 5:55. We got a lot

[56:40] of people out there that you guys can

[56:41] hear for some of the agenda items coming

[56:43] up, which will be pretty exciting. Thank

[56:44] you, Carlton,

[56:46] and Jessica and James for uh leading us

[56:50] through this. This was helpful. And

[56:51] looking forward to and Bill for for

[56:53] being here. Appreciate it. And all of

[56:55] you, it's good to see you. And we'll

[56:58] take a quick break and be back uh just

[57:00] after 6. Thanks a lot.

[57:04] Oh my god.

[1:11:37] Good evening and welcome back to uh

[1:11:38] Basalt Town Council. It's Tuesday, April

[1:11:40] 14th. Uh we're going to go into our

[1:11:42] regular meeting now in a moment. Uh

[1:11:45] earlier tonight, we had a work session

[1:11:46] on the Midland design guidelines. That's

[1:11:49] completed now. And uh just really quick

[1:11:51] before we get going, I always give the

[1:11:53] announcement about how to join on Zoom.

[1:11:55] If you're interested in that, you can go

[1:11:57] to basalt.net, look at the agendas and

[1:11:59] minutes and uh find the April 14th and

[1:12:03] the link instructions are all in there.

[1:12:05] Um I'm going to go ahead and call the

[1:12:08] meeting to order and Pam, would you

[1:12:09] please call the role?

[1:12:10] >> Absolutely. Let's begin with Deer

[1:12:12] Schindler

[1:12:13] >> here.

[1:12:13] >> Angela Anderson,

[1:12:15] >> Rick Stevens

[1:12:16] >> here.

[1:12:17] >> Hannah Berman

[1:12:18] >> here.

[1:12:19] also her honel dupart

[1:12:22] >> here.

[1:12:23] >> Ryan Slack

[1:12:24] >> here

[1:12:24] >> and David Knight

[1:12:25] >> here.

[1:12:26] >> Thank you.

[1:12:26] >> Yeah, thank you. They both

[1:12:28] >> All right. Um, next up on the agenda is

[1:12:30] the consent agenda, but I'm going to

[1:12:31] propose we uh modify this slightly. We

[1:12:35] are going to do items uh if everyone's

[1:12:38] amendable to this item 6A and 6B next

[1:12:42] before the consent agenda. Um, we have a

[1:12:44] lot of folks here for that. Um, we're

[1:12:46] going to do 6A in the room here. Um, the

[1:12:50] proclamation recognizing Tim Goodwin of

[1:12:52] Timbos. And then 6B is the proclamation

[1:12:55] recognizing Basalt High School coach

[1:12:57] Carl Freric's. We're going to do that as

[1:12:58] well, but we're going to take that

[1:13:00] outside once we get done with, um, the

[1:13:02] proclamation for Tim. So, um, we're

[1:13:05] going to go ahead and do those. So, uh,

[1:13:07] item 6A, proclamation recognizing Tim

[1:13:10] Goodwood from Timbo's Pizza. And uh

[1:13:12] Robbie uh you can come up here and uh

[1:13:14] speak there or at the table.

[1:13:16] >> Uh Basalt is so fortunate to have Tim

[1:13:19] Goodwin and his family as a part of this

[1:13:21] community for the past 29 years. Tim

[1:13:24] needs no introduction, but here is Tim

[1:13:27] Goodwin.

[1:13:29] [applause]

[1:13:34] Um I guess I'm sort of flabbergasted. It

[1:13:36] was quite the surprise of an honor and

[1:13:39] I'm just glad to be one of the citizens

[1:13:42] of town and I grew up in Carbondale and

[1:13:45] started at Pipinos when it was a Papinos

[1:13:47] here. So I've been in that building for

[1:13:48] 40 years and watching kids and families

[1:13:50] grow up here has just been a real

[1:13:52] special honor and thanks for uh thanking

[1:13:55] me I guess.

[1:13:56] >> Yeah. Well, thanks for for doing what

[1:13:58] you do. I know um I have an 11-year-old.

[1:14:00] Our kids go over there and hang out. You

[1:14:02] know, it's a always a place to go if you

[1:14:05] want to get a slice. said, "I'm a

[1:14:06] progressive rock fan as well."

[1:14:08] [laughter]

[1:14:08] >> Nice.

[1:14:09] >> So, I mean, I go in there and it reminds

[1:14:10] me of uh my high school years with the

[1:14:13] Rush and you you got even the deeper

[1:14:14] cuts in there at times, the Dream

[1:14:16] Theater. What?

[1:14:17] >> Yep. Exactly.

[1:14:18] >> What? So, uh No, it's pretty cool what you've got going there. And you

[1:14:22] know, just thank you for being a part of

[1:14:24] this community for so long. We have a

[1:14:27] proclamation for you that um we'll go

[1:14:29] ahead and read it and pass it around.

[1:14:31] Everybody will read a different

[1:14:32] paragraph. So um a proclamation honoring

[1:14:35] community service in the town of Basalt.

[1:14:37] So whereas the town of Basalt

[1:14:39] acknowledges that the performance of

[1:14:40] government and other social institutions

[1:14:43] is powerfully influenced by citizen

[1:14:45] engagement in community affairs. And

[1:14:49] >> whereas individual citizens and citizen

[1:14:52] networks working for the common good of

[1:14:54] the community are part of special

[1:14:56] character of the town of Basalt. And

[1:14:59] keep going down.

[1:15:00] >> Yeah.

[1:15:02] This is a big paragraph, so

[1:15:04] >> you got the big one, Rick. [laughter]

[1:15:06] >> I planned it that way.

[1:15:07] >> Lot of responsibility.

[1:15:09] >> Tim Goodwin and family members Julian,

[1:15:11] Jason, and Jesse have long been more

[1:15:13] than just the owners of our beloved

[1:15:15] Timbos Pizza. Tim has served as a

[1:15:18] steadfast pillar of our community.

[1:15:21] You are right there. Timbos is more than

[1:15:24] a place to eat for those fortunate

[1:15:26] enough to enjoy his triedand-true

[1:15:28] recipes. It is a place for students to

[1:15:30] gather and adults to run into friends. A

[1:15:33] hot spot for delicious food, good music,

[1:15:35] positivity, friendships, and a place

[1:15:37] where the spirit of Basalt comes alive.

[1:15:40] >> You want me to just keep rocking?

[1:15:42] >> Sure.

[1:15:43] >> Take us home.

[1:15:44] >> With the [laughter] yearbooks lining the

[1:15:45] walls and photos of the sports teams he

[1:15:47] has sponsored tell quite a story better

[1:15:49] than words ever could. Each one a

[1:15:52] testament to the lives that have

[1:15:54] intersected with those doors and they

[1:15:56] support freely given and the support

[1:15:59] given freely to all who enter. It may

[1:16:01] take a village to raise a child but it

[1:16:03] takes a pizza joint to raise a

[1:16:04] community. [laughter]

[1:16:08] [applause]

[1:16:12] Therefore,

[1:16:14] >> what's that? Therefore,

[1:16:16] >> therefore, we the Bassalt Town Council

[1:16:18] proclaim that on this 14th day of April,

[1:16:21] 2026, the town of Basalt is a far far

[1:16:24] better place by the role model and good

[1:16:26] deeds of Tim Goodwin and family. So,

[1:16:29] well done. [applause]

[1:16:43] All right.

[1:16:47] outside.

[1:16:47] >> All right. Well, next up we have and

[1:16:49] we're going to after I read this, we're

[1:16:51] going to go outside, but item 6B is a

[1:16:53] proclamation recognizing Basalt High

[1:16:55] School coach Carl Freric. And uh we're

[1:16:58] going to go ahead and go outside out

[1:17:00] here because there's a crowd out there

[1:17:02] for that. So, you're all welcome to come

[1:17:04] on out.

[1:17:10] » Okay.

[1:17:20] I just need to stand up.

[1:17:23] >> Still still not in yet.

[1:30:22] All right, welcome back. We are back

[1:30:24] inside from our uh have done our two

[1:30:26] proclamations for the evening. Um but

[1:30:29] stay tuned. There's more. Uh next up is

[1:30:32] our consent agenda item two and I'm

[1:30:34] going to read a laundry list of things

[1:30:35] that are on that. If anybody wants to

[1:30:37] pull anything off, let me know at the

[1:30:38] end. Item 2A is resolution number 17

[1:30:41] series of 2026. Resolution of the town

[1:30:43] council of Basalt, Colorado approving

[1:30:45] the 2026 streets m streets maintenance

[1:30:48] chip seal project and authorizing staff

[1:30:50] to enter into contract with GMCO LLC.

[1:30:53] Item 2B is to continue to April 28th,

[1:30:56] 2026 public hearing and introduction

[1:30:58] meeting 555 Basalt Avenue development

[1:31:00] application for special review PUD

[1:31:03] amendments and associated development

[1:31:04] review actions for 54 commercial storage

[1:31:07] units and 47 residential units. Item 2 C

[1:31:10] is an Arbor Day proclamation. Item 2D is

[1:31:13] resolution number 18 series of 2026

[1:31:16] resolution to the town council of Basalt

[1:31:17] Colorado granting approval for the 2026

[1:31:20] Basalt Sunday market on Midland Spur in

[1:31:22] Lions Park in downtown Basalt 2E

[1:31:25] resolution 19 series of 2026 resolution

[1:31:28] the town council of Basalt Colorado

[1:31:30] ratifying and approving an

[1:31:31] intergovernmental agreement for the

[1:31:33] operation administration and financial

[1:31:34] support of the picking county regional

[1:31:36] emergency dispatch center 2F is a

[1:31:39] reappointment of basalt public arts

[1:31:41] commission member mber reappointment of

[1:31:43] Liz Bell to the BPAC for a three-year

[1:31:45] term to expire April 14th, 2029. And

[1:31:49] last, item 2G, special event activity

[1:31:51] permit, food truck at 72 Sunset Drive. I

[1:31:55] would entertain a motion to approve the

[1:31:57] consent agenda items as presented.

[1:32:01] >> Mayor, I move that the town council

[1:32:03] approve the consent agenda items as

[1:32:05] presented.

[1:32:06] >> Second.

[1:32:07] >> It's been moved and seconded. All those

[1:32:09] in favor, please signify by saying I.

[1:32:11] Hi.

[1:32:12] >> Hi. Thank you. Um, next up we have our

[1:32:15] item three, which is the call to the

[1:32:17] public. Uh, just a reminder on this, um,

[1:32:20] if you, uh, are going to speak, you have

[1:32:22] three minutes, and you can address your

[1:32:24] comments directly to me. Uh, make sure

[1:32:26] you identify yourself by name and

[1:32:28] address and sign in the back of the

[1:32:29] room. Comments should be courteous,

[1:32:31] civil, and constructive. Um, town

[1:32:33] council will make no decision or take

[1:32:35] action except to direct the town

[1:32:37] manager. And, uh, we're going to have

[1:32:40] our timer set up. up and this is the

[1:32:41] last timing maybe

[1:32:46] >> I ever have to do

[1:32:50] » there is so uh if anyone wants

[1:32:53] >> anyone wants to come up to the podium

[1:32:56] floor's open

[1:32:58] >> hi

[1:32:59] >> you can start

[1:33:00] >> okay hi I'm Stacy Stokes and hopefully I

[1:33:03] won't be here for the next couple of

[1:33:04] months because I'll be out of town but I

[1:33:07] am here because a few years ago we moved

[1:33:10] to a property that is on Few Lane. It's

[1:33:13] a very dangerous street. It's not even a

[1:33:15] street. It's an alley. And I'm starting

[1:33:18] to lose my mind because the accidents

[1:33:21] that I see waiting to happen are

[1:33:23] horrible. Um, regardless, I want to put

[1:33:26] a few requests out there to you. I can

[1:33:28] follow up with an email. I've spoken to

[1:33:30] a few neighbors. But we need a slow

[1:33:32] children plane sign. We can't have

[1:33:35] little green men that fall down in the

[1:33:37] wind. They don't do any good. We need an

[1:33:39] absolute sign saying we've got kids

[1:33:41] playing. We need a speed limit sign

[1:33:44] saying 15 miles an hour. We need a

[1:33:46] street sign that says we are East View

[1:33:49] Lane because people drive around in

[1:33:50] circles trying to find East View Lane

[1:33:52] because we look like Basalt Avenue. Uh

[1:33:56] we need a stop sign at the end of Few

[1:33:58] Lane in Alexander where people fly right

[1:34:00] through. And let's see, the other thing

[1:34:03] is we I would like to see the straight

[1:34:05] at some point be made one way with a

[1:34:07] nice big 5-ft bike and safe pedestrian

[1:34:10] path that then can be used as emergency

[1:34:14] access within minutes if need be. Um

[1:34:17] because on to I mean I just feel like we

[1:34:20] need to be have a progressive vision

[1:34:22] about what we need to do with this road

[1:34:24] because it's scary and it's horrible and

[1:34:26] I I tell people all the time to slow

[1:34:28] down. And I'm probably like known of the

[1:34:29] pitch of F Lane by now because I walk

[1:34:31] there. But I'm scared about Mayor

[1:34:33] Wolfer's kids. I'm scared. She's scared.

[1:34:35] You know she's scared. She's talked to

[1:34:36] you. And unfortunately, people have lost

[1:34:39] the decorum to take good care of each

[1:34:41] other. On to

[1:34:44] the road that was supposed to be by big

[1:34:46] O. I'm going to implore you yet again to

[1:34:50] get with Picking County. Get with the

[1:34:53] state. Get with your people here. We've

[1:34:56] got to get another access in and out of

[1:34:58] Southside and Stosmill. You have to

[1:35:00] You've You've approved all this dense

[1:35:03] development thinking that was going to

[1:35:05] be there. It's not fair to those

[1:35:07] residents. That's grass up there. They

[1:35:10] don't have time to get out. For where I

[1:35:12] live, I can run to the river. They

[1:35:14] can't. And I guarantee you, if they got

[1:35:17] some sort of information with some evac

[1:35:20] plan that only has one way in and one

[1:35:22] way out, they might be in this meeting,

[1:35:24] too. asking you to put the road in that

[1:35:26] you were supposed to put in and we have

[1:35:29] to find the money to keep the residents

[1:35:31] over there safe or everything needs to

[1:35:33] stop before somebody dies and it's going

[1:35:35] to be a lot of people if it happens. So

[1:35:38] that's um that's all that I have to say

[1:35:43] and I will stop talking at some point

[1:35:45] about this but I think my points are

[1:35:48] valid. I think they're very important

[1:35:50] and I don't think people pay enough

[1:35:51] attention because like I said last time,

[1:35:53] they just want a home to raise their

[1:35:55] family in Stats Mill, but they need to

[1:35:58] be safe at the same time. Thank you all.

[1:36:00] >> Thank you,

[1:36:01] >> Stacey, for your comments.

[1:36:03] >> Perfect timing, too.

[1:36:07] » Look at that.

[1:36:08] >> Yeah, use the whole three minutes. All

[1:36:10] right. Uh,

[1:36:10] >> speak.

[1:36:12] >> Anyone else? Anyone else like to come up

[1:36:14] and speak for public comment?

[1:36:18] All right. Anybody online?

[1:36:22] » I don't see anybody raising their hand.

[1:36:24] So, going to move on to uh mayor and

[1:36:27] council reports and comments.

[1:36:32] » Well, I'm going to start real quick

[1:36:34] because this is probably one of the last

[1:36:35] times I can do this, but I would like to

[1:36:38] thank the police force. Um, you guys

[1:36:41] have done an amazing job over this last

[1:36:45] year, two years. Um, I just can't thank

[1:36:48] you guys enough.

[1:36:51] >> So, and then also Jordan left, but

[1:36:54] public works. Um, they had a big water

[1:36:57] valve change last week, two weeks ago,

[1:37:00] and uh, I went over talked to one of the

[1:37:01] guys. Just can't thank our public works

[1:37:04] department. Can't thank the staff. Can't

[1:37:05] thank everyone enough for this town. Um,

[1:37:09] just awesome. We're lucky to have all

[1:37:11] this great stuff.

[1:37:14] >> You're here. Thanks, Ryan.

[1:37:17] Anyone else?

[1:37:22] » Um, well, I'm not I might be remote the

[1:37:24] next meeting. So, I'm going to take this

[1:37:26] opportunity to say it in person. Thank

[1:37:27] you to Ryan and to Deer for their

[1:37:31] service. Uh, and congratulations to

[1:37:33] Angela who gets to keep her seat as well

[1:37:35] as our two new counselors uh that'll be

[1:37:36] coming on board. But specifically for

[1:37:39] tonight, um Ryan has given eight years

[1:37:42] uh to the town of assault and is only

[1:37:45] leaving because he's termed out.

[1:37:46] [laughter]

[1:37:49] Um and deer, you know, thank you. I

[1:37:51] think that um our police department, our

[1:37:54] public works, our town staff,

[1:37:55] everything. Um, this town wouldn't be

[1:37:57] the same, of course, without any of

[1:37:58] them, but it also wouldn't be the same

[1:38:00] if not for people like you who give

[1:38:03] their time to do this um job, this

[1:38:07] service. And so, thank you for your

[1:38:08] service.

[1:38:11] We'll miss you guys.

[1:38:14] [applause]

[1:38:21] Anyone else

[1:38:23] real quick? Um,

[1:38:26] you know, it's evenings like tonight

[1:38:27] where you have Tim Goodwin and Carl in

[1:38:31] here. It makes you appreciate what this

[1:38:33] community is really about. And I, you

[1:38:36] know, most of us don't forget that, but

[1:38:39] sometimes you need a reminder. And

[1:38:41] tonight was a nice reminder. So, thank

[1:38:44] all you that showed up and the young men

[1:38:47] on that football team for doing what

[1:38:50] they do. And with any luck at all,

[1:38:52] they'll stick around and become our

[1:38:54] future leaders.

[1:38:56] And you know, football's not the only

[1:38:58] activity that young men and young women

[1:39:00] and young people can engage in. There's

[1:39:03] a lot of it going on around here. And uh

[1:39:06] we need to support it as much as we can

[1:39:09] uh everywhere we can all the time. And

[1:39:12] uh I appreciate it because that's I was

[1:39:16] raised by guys like that and it makes a

[1:39:18] difference.

[1:39:20] So when you see him on the street, say

[1:39:22] hi. Same with these two that are

[1:39:25] leaving, don't forget about him.

[1:39:30] >> He's a big person. You can't forget

[1:39:31] about him.

[1:39:33] >> Thanks you guys for coming out

[1:39:36] everybody. Thanks, Rick.

[1:39:39] >> Anyone else?

[1:39:42] This community is so great and just

[1:39:44] nights like tonight remind me that there

[1:39:46] for just so many people in this

[1:39:48] community that are just giving so much

[1:39:51] of themselves and of their time and

[1:39:53] talents and um I [clears throat] don't

[1:39:55] want to raise my kids anywhere else.

[1:39:57] Thank you to everybody that's here

[1:39:59] >> for just for being a part of Basalt.

[1:40:03] >> It's so encouraging to know that there

[1:40:05] are communities like this.

[1:40:08] >> Sure.

[1:40:10] >> All right. Anyone else have anything to

[1:40:13] add?

[1:40:14] >> Any comments you said? These are like

[1:40:16] the most memorable comments of the year.

[1:40:18] [laughter]

[1:40:19] You're

[1:40:19] >> already crying by me.

[1:40:21] >> I know.

[1:40:24] >> Um, we'll move on uh to our next agenda

[1:40:27] item, which is the manager's report. Um,

[1:40:30] item five, which also includes 5A,

[1:40:32] police lieutenant pinning.

[1:40:33] >> Yes. I would like to start off my

[1:40:35] manager's report with the pinning

[1:40:38] ceremony for our new lieutenant, Travis

[1:40:40] St.

[1:40:42] [applause]

[1:40:49] Thank you all. Yeah, you're good right

[1:40:51] there. Um, I own a little proclamation

[1:40:54] since we're on that kick tonight. So,

[1:40:56] uh, to all who shall see these present

[1:40:58] greetings, know ye that reposing special

[1:41:00] trust and confidence in the fidelity and

[1:41:03] abilities of Sergeant Travis Still, I do

[1:41:05] appoint this officer a lieutenant for

[1:41:07] the town of Baal Police Department to

[1:41:10] rank as such from the 14th day of April,

[1:41:12] 2026.

[1:41:14] Effective with his appointment, you are

[1:41:15] charged to carefully and diligently

[1:41:17] execute the duties and responsibilities

[1:41:19] of a lieutenant. and I do strictly

[1:41:21] direct and require all personnel of

[1:41:23] lesser grade to render obedience to

[1:41:25] appropriate order. As a lieutenant, you

[1:41:28] must set the example for others to

[1:41:29] emulate. Your conduct and

[1:41:31] professionalism, both on and off duty,

[1:41:33] shall be above reproach. You are

[1:41:35] responsible for the accomplishment of

[1:41:37] your assigned mission statement and for

[1:41:39] this safety, professional development,

[1:41:41] and well-being of the officers in your

[1:41:43] agency. You will be the embodiment of

[1:41:45] our institutional core values of

[1:41:47] integrity, compassion, and

[1:41:49] professionalism. You will lead your

[1:41:51] officers with firmness, fairness, and

[1:41:52] dignity while observing and following

[1:41:54] the Constitution of the United States,

[1:41:56] the laws of the state of Colorado, and

[1:41:58] the ordinances and policies and

[1:42:00] procedures of the Town of Assault. Given

[1:42:02] under my hand at Town of Assault

[1:42:04] Colorado, this 14th day of April, 2026.

[1:42:08] Congratulations.

[1:42:10] [applause]

[1:42:17] To do uh to do the pinning, I'm going to

[1:42:19] have uh Travis's wife Christy and his

[1:42:21] two kids come up. They're right behind

[1:42:23] me. All right.

[1:42:26] >> You want to start with the batch? There

[1:42:27] you go.

[1:42:32] Excellent. [laughter]

[1:42:50] [applause]

[1:42:54] Baby

[1:43:09] » [applause]

[1:43:16] » You don't have to say anything. All

[1:43:17] right. Well, the other day I failed, so

[1:43:18] I'll just um I just I appreciate the uh

[1:43:24] vote of confidence to fill this role to

[1:43:27] assist you in leading our team, which is

[1:43:30] a phenomenal team.

[1:43:32] uh which is also in part due to support

[1:43:34] we get from you guys as council. So I'm

[1:43:37] super excited for this opportunity and

[1:43:39] thanks.

[1:43:41] >> Thank you.

[1:43:42] >> Awesome. Thank you. I APPRECIATE

[1:43:44] [applause]

[1:43:54] like a perma smile on my face right now.

[1:43:56] [laughter]

[1:43:59] » Good feelings. Yeah. Okay. I have more

[1:44:03] on my manager's report. Um [laughter]

[1:44:06] just wanted to report out that the

[1:44:08] >> bad news. [laughter] It's actually a

[1:44:11] good news. Um ebike safety working group

[1:44:14] um with RAFTA. Uh we attended last last

[1:44:17] week. Um and Basalt is joining Aspen's

[1:44:20] campaign in Go Slow Say hello. Um so

[1:44:23] you'll see more um more stuff coming out

[1:44:27] on Go Slow Say Hello. We're also

[1:44:29] evaluating how we can effectively

[1:44:33] uh regulate emotos. Um so that's

[1:44:36] something that we're working on with the

[1:44:37] school resource officer. So um we're

[1:44:40] also partnering right now with Eagle

[1:44:41] County to do a curbside chipping program

[1:44:43] to encourage residents to clean up their

[1:44:45] yards and reduce fire danger. Uh so this

[1:44:48] is funded through Eagle County but will

[1:44:49] serve the entire town of Basalt. Uh and

[1:44:52] pickup will start at the end of May. Um

[1:44:56] and then we received 10 proposals for

[1:44:58] the design and entitlement services for

[1:45:00] public service building and we will or

[1:45:03] we're actually calling it public service

[1:45:04] facility and we have a we will have a

[1:45:08] recommendation to you all by um April

[1:45:10] 28th we're doing um and then I wanted to

[1:45:13] remind everyone that Earth Day is next

[1:45:15] week. Um so we are hosting an Earth Day

[1:45:17] celebration. Um so that is on Wednesday,

[1:45:21] April 22nd from 12 to 6 pm. And um we'll

[1:45:26] have activities including guest

[1:45:27] speakers, um solar power exhibits,

[1:45:30] electric car demos, um and uh free

[1:45:34] composting bins, kids crafts, tree

[1:45:37] giveaways, [cough and clears throat]

[1:45:38] and a food and music. So um stop by from

[1:45:42] Yeah. from 12 to 6 on Earth Day. And you

[1:45:46] know, do you know offh hand what which

[1:45:48] time is the elementary school kids

[1:45:50] coming over? I know that's

[1:45:51] >> So they are going to be doing their

[1:45:52] performance at 12:30 p.m.

[1:45:54] >> 12:30. That's a that's a good one.

[1:45:57] >> It's all good. But that's a really

[1:45:59] >> Yes.

[1:46:01] >> All right. That is my manager's report.

[1:46:04] >> All right. Great.

[1:46:06] >> Thank you, Gloria. So, we are going to

[1:46:08] move back into presentations uh and to

[1:46:11] 6C, which is a presentation on Cavern

[1:46:14] Springs Mobile Home Park and John Fox

[1:46:17] Rubin.

[1:46:18] >> Sir, if I might, um we do have our

[1:46:20] translator available this evening.

[1:46:22] >> Okay. [clears throat]

[1:46:27] » And yeah, if anybody else wants to come

[1:46:29] up and and be up here at the front uh

[1:46:31] with the mics, they're

[1:46:33] >> more than welcome to.

[1:46:38] » [clears throat]

[1:46:39] >> Thank you everyone. We're just getting

[1:46:40] prepared.

[1:46:49] » Well, I haven't seen some of you in a

[1:46:51] while. I've sat in your chairs a long

[1:46:53] time ago when Rick Stevens was the

[1:46:56] mayor. And

[1:46:59] I'm here for one of the issues that we

[1:47:00] worked on back then, which is preserving

[1:47:03] community through mobile home parks.

[1:47:06] And tonight we just want to share with

[1:47:08] you what we're doing around Cavern

[1:47:09] Springs Mobile Home Park.

[1:47:14] » We've got

[1:47:16] um couple folks here that live in Cavern

[1:47:19] Springs. Monica Mun is the vice

[1:47:22] president of the Soress Mountain

[1:47:25] Collective, which is the organization

[1:47:27] they've formed to try to become a

[1:47:30] residentowned community. and

[1:47:32] [clears throat] her colleague here,

[1:47:35] Anadina Garcia, is going to speak and

[1:47:38] share her story. And then Enid Richie,

[1:47:42] who is another member of Mountain Voices

[1:47:44] Project, Mountain Voices Project, she's

[1:47:47] going to tell you a little bit about

[1:47:48] what it is for those of you that don't

[1:47:49] know, has been involved throughout the

[1:47:52] community with other mobile home

[1:47:54] communities that are at threat of being

[1:47:57] um displaced, etc. So, those are the

[1:48:01] people that are going to speak tonight.

[1:48:03] Monica's going to go first

[1:48:05] there.

[1:48:12] » Just pull it. Yeah. Speak into it.

[1:48:14] >> Okay. Thank you.

[1:48:16] >> Hello. My name is Monica Monise.

[1:48:20] I am the vice president of the Sus

[1:48:22] Mountain Collective, which represents

[1:48:24] the residents of Cavern Springs

[1:48:26] community. just next to Habitat Restore

[1:48:30] on this side of Glennwood Springs. There

[1:48:32] are 98 families. Several have lived here

[1:48:35] for over 30 years. There are uh 260

[1:48:40] uh residents, children, disabled

[1:48:43] children, and adult senior citizens and

[1:48:45] veterans.

[1:48:47] Um 22 of our residents work in Basalt

[1:48:50] and 14 of them al work in Elabel.

[1:48:54] [clears throat]

[1:48:55] My husband and I moved to the Royin Fork

[1:48:56] Valley in 1998 and then moved to uh the

[1:49:00] Cavern Springs um which at that time was

[1:49:02] called HL Lazf in 1991 raising our

[1:49:06] daughter and caregiving our my special

[1:49:09] needs brother.

[1:49:11] We enjoy our view of Mount Srris

[1:49:14] from our home and our garden and the

[1:49:16] longtime connections and the new ones we

[1:49:19] have developed in our community.

[1:49:21] I own a small business in Carbondale and

[1:49:24] I have served on the Royan Fork Resource

[1:49:26] Center board. I enjoy uh volunteering in

[1:49:29] community events in the Royan Fork

[1:49:30] Valley.

[1:49:32] Thank you for your time.

[1:49:34] >> Thank you.

[1:49:34] And I'm going to This is

[1:49:37] Inadina Garcia and she'll speak.

[1:49:45] » [clears throat]

[1:49:46] >> is Garcia

[1:49:57] Spring.

[1:50:43] Yes.

[1:50:59] They

[1:51:19] spring.

[1:51:29] Kilo

[1:51:48] fresco.

[1:51:54] AJesa.

[1:52:20] Colleen

[1:52:42] [clears throat]

[1:52:50] Audencia

[1:52:53] Pimar.

[1:52:56] Um

[1:53:12] seasoning device.

[1:53:28] The interpreter would just request one

[1:53:29] moment because that was a little

[1:53:31] >> good. You're good introduction.

[1:53:54] Good evening. My name is Anedita Garcia.

[1:53:58] I've

[1:54:01] lived in the valley for 26 years and

[1:54:04] I've lived in Cavern Springs for five

[1:54:06] and a half years. I have three children.

[1:54:10] I have one uh who serves in the US Army.

[1:54:14] He's been there for five years

[1:54:16] and he comes to the area about three

[1:54:21] times a year. Comes uh about three or

[1:54:26] twice a year. And whenever he comes

[1:54:28] back, he comes back to Cavern Springs.

[1:54:30] And we always celebrate when he comes

[1:54:33] back and visits.

[1:54:36] His desire is to be able to have his own

[1:54:39] family back in Cavern Springs at some

[1:54:42] point in the future.

[1:54:44] And

[1:54:46] we're fighting to be able to retain our

[1:54:49] home and our community.

[1:54:52] I also have another son who is a plumber

[1:54:55] in the Basalt area for a company and

[1:54:58] based out of Basalt.

[1:55:01] Um and I myself have worked uh for six

[1:55:06] years also in the basalt area.

[1:55:11] Um, we have um

[1:55:14] our home is uh very calm and

[1:55:19] our family enjoys living in the area

[1:55:23] um in Cavern Springs because um well, I

[1:55:27] really enjoy it because it's close to

[1:55:28] work and and it's very calm and and safe

[1:55:34] and tranquil.

[1:55:36] [clears throat]

[1:55:37] >> I have an tree in my patio. It's very

[1:55:40] fresh. It's very fresh in my patio. Um

[1:55:45] uh that I uh upkeep during the

[1:55:47] summertime

[1:55:49] and

[1:55:50] I've had the opportunity to be able to

[1:55:52] get to know my neighbors better because

[1:55:55] of work. And we're currently uh pursuing

[1:56:02] the uh the ability to be able to

[1:56:05] establish a residence in our community.

[1:56:09] Uh just this past weekend we had our

[1:56:13] fifth

[1:56:14] uh community collective just last

[1:56:16] weekend and we were uh

[1:56:21] between all of us there's um we were

[1:56:25] able to make about 5,000 tamales and we

[1:56:30] were able to raise about $6,000

[1:56:33] and that's money that we planned uh on

[1:56:37] using those funds to be able to pay for

[1:56:39] the upcoming expenses that we have with

[1:56:42] the preliminary preliminary hearing.

[1:56:45] Um there are other residents in the area

[1:56:48] uh some of which are uh elder

[1:56:52] and encompasses also uh young

[1:56:55] individuals and children.

[1:56:58] Um thank you for your time and for

[1:57:01] listening to part of my story.

[1:57:06] » Thank you.

[1:57:16] Good evening. I am Enid Richie, a Basalt

[1:57:19] resident for the past 9.5 years. I

[1:57:23] joined my daughter and her family in the

[1:57:25] Roaring Fork Valley. She has been a

[1:57:28] teacher at Basalt Elementary. Her

[1:57:30] husband works for Sko. Both my

[1:57:33] grandchildren are currently attending

[1:57:36] BHS.

[1:57:37] Not knowing anyone in the valley except

[1:57:40] my family, I reached out as a volunteer

[1:57:43] in the following organizations.

[1:57:46] A tutor in English in action, a library

[1:57:49] board member for six years and currently

[1:57:52] a library trust member. As a

[1:57:55] representative of English in action, I

[1:57:58] became a leader in Mountain Voices

[1:58:00] project early in it in its inception. I

[1:58:05] continue to volunteer in each

[1:58:07] organization.

[1:58:08] Tonight, I'm here on behalf of Mountain

[1:58:12] Voices Project. MVP is a regional

[1:58:16] organization from Aspen to parachute

[1:58:19] consisting of 20 organizational members

[1:58:23] from faith, nonprofit and community

[1:58:26] sectors to address civic issues. Early

[1:58:30] on we had structured small groups group

[1:58:34] community conversations

[1:58:36] where deep concerns bubbled up. We took

[1:58:39] action.

[1:58:41] Examples are MVP was instrumental in the

[1:58:45] early childhood tax initiative on both

[1:58:48] the ballot and its successful passing

[1:58:52] during COVID. A housing crisis occurred.

[1:58:56] Tenants were unable to pay rent due to

[1:59:00] the clo the US closing down during the

[1:59:03] pandemic. Property owners were unable to

[1:59:07] pay their property bills. Uh um and we

[1:59:12] helped them both the um renters and the

[1:59:16] property owners to find the money they

[1:59:19] needed to survive through the pandemic.

[1:59:22] Currently we are dealing with a

[1:59:24] different community issue regarding

[1:59:26] housing. The next speaker

[1:59:30] uh John will clarify the issue and the

[1:59:33] needs.

[1:59:36] >> Thank you.

[1:59:37] >> Thanks Enid.

[1:59:39] >> [clears throat]

[1:59:40] >> I also want to recognize Ellen Dubet in

[1:59:42] the audience here. She's a member of

[1:59:45] Mountain Voices Project as a leader from

[1:59:47] the Snow Mass Chapel. We have leaders

[1:59:49] [clears throat] throughout the community

[1:59:50] from our member organizations. My member

[1:59:53] organization is the Aspen Jewish

[1:59:55] Congregation. So, I act as a leader and

[1:59:58] bring their perspective to our community

[2:00:00] conversations.

[2:00:02] The

[2:00:03] thing that you may not know about me, a

[2:00:06] lot of you probably don't. Rick, my I I

[2:00:08] lived in Aspen Village when I was seven

[2:00:11] years old for a few years and it was a

[2:00:13] wonderful experience and that's probably

[2:00:15] what where my passion for preserving

[2:00:18] mobile home communities came from.

[2:00:21] Historically, they've been a very

[2:00:22] affordable a market-based affordable

[2:00:24] solution for housing in this community.

[2:00:27] There are over 50 mobile home parks

[2:00:30] between Parachute and Aspen. And about

[2:00:32] 25% of the people you see, or maybe you

[2:00:35] don't see, but that do the work for us

[2:00:39] with us live in mobile homes in this

[2:00:42] community.

[2:00:44] We are concerned that the privatization,

[2:00:49] the hedge funds, the private equity

[2:00:50] funds that have been pretty active are

[2:00:53] getting even more active. There's an

[2:00:55] article in the paper recently about

[2:00:56] seven parks from Rifle to Grand Junction

[2:00:59] that all got purchased by one entity.

[2:01:02] That's really challenging because if you

[2:01:05] live in one of those parks and the rents

[2:01:06] go up, you don't really have another

[2:01:09] place to go. Even with the legislation

[2:01:12] that's been advancing in the state, the

[2:01:14] state has been very proactive in trying

[2:01:16] to make a difference here. But the

[2:01:18] legislation is not quite there. So,

[2:01:20] Mountain Voices Project has also been

[2:01:22] involved in some policy papers to help

[2:01:25] strengthen the legislation and there's

[2:01:27] two bills that are that are being pushed

[2:01:29] right now that would continue to help

[2:01:31] strengthen it, but it's still not there.

[2:01:33] And meanwhile, Cavern Springs has this

[2:01:36] is the second time they've been sold

[2:01:38] under the new opportunity to purchase

[2:01:40] law. I worked with them the first time

[2:01:43] they got the notice in 2019

[2:01:46] and they were being sold for $18 million

[2:01:49] and we couldn't come up with the

[2:01:51] financing to keep the rents at all from

[2:01:53] doubling and so the residents turned

[2:01:55] that opportunity down. There was not

[2:01:58] wide community support for that. Today

[2:02:00] there's a lot more community support.

[2:02:02] We've already received some community

[2:02:04] support from some municipalities. Pigan

[2:02:07] County is weighing in on it tomorrow. We

[2:02:09] presented in front of Garfield County

[2:02:11] and to be determined if we can get

[2:02:14] anything from them. However, their

[2:02:16] housing authority is potentially

[2:02:19] participating as a special limited

[2:02:21] partner which would allow for property

[2:02:23] tax abatement. So, we're really trying

[2:02:24] to weave together the right equity that

[2:02:29] would come in as a subsidy and the right

[2:02:31] lending from what's called a CDFI

[2:02:33] lender, community development financial

[2:02:35] institution lender. There's a company

[2:02:37] called Rock USA which is the primary

[2:02:39] lender that helped the two parks already

[2:02:41] in this comm actually three in this

[2:02:42] community. Basalt Carbondale and one in

[2:02:44] Glenwood already. And so we're hoping to

[2:02:47] follow that with with them and another

[2:02:49] one called IDF Impact Development Fund

[2:02:51] out of the Front Range that has been

[2:02:53] active in a couple of the the capital

[2:02:55] stacks in our community. So the reason

[2:02:58] we're here tonight is just to educate

[2:02:59] you, let you know what we're up to.

[2:03:01] Mountain Voices Project has also created

[2:03:04] a fund at the Aspen Community Foundation

[2:03:06] that funds uh legal support for

[2:03:09] residents like Cavern Springs, but also

[2:03:11] for other communities. We our goal at

[2:03:13] Mountain Voices Project is not to be

[2:03:15] solving this one at a time, but it's to

[2:03:17] really to get things like a tax

[2:03:20] initiative that can cover preservation

[2:03:23] of communities. There's a there's a fund

[2:03:25] called the Prop 123 fund at the state

[2:03:27] level that is designed for preservation

[2:03:31] and construction of new affordable

[2:03:32] housing. But in the Colorado Sun

[2:03:35] recently, there was an article that only

[2:03:36] point two or was it actually 0.02% of

[2:03:40] the funds in Prop 123 have gone towards

[2:03:43] preserving existing units. And when you

[2:03:46] look at the bang for your buck, your ROI

[2:03:48] on preserving units, in this case, we're

[2:03:51] looking for about a $8 million total

[2:03:54] community investment for approximately

[2:03:57] 100 mobile homes. So that's $80,000 per

[2:04:00] mobile home saved from

[2:04:04] uncertain future and most likely

[2:04:07] doubling rents if the Cavern Springs

[2:04:10] residents do not prevail in purchasing

[2:04:11] and becoming a residentowned community.

[2:04:14] So, that's pretty much why we're here

[2:04:16] today is to let you know what we're up

[2:04:18] to. And we'd love support in raising

[2:04:22] this capital. We're talking to

[2:04:23] businesses. We're talking to

[2:04:25] philanthropists. We're also looking at

[2:04:27] creating a loan fund where people who

[2:04:30] may not be able to donate but could put

[2:04:32] some of their capital into a a loan fund

[2:04:35] that would probably be managed by

[2:04:37] another CDFI or a local institution

[2:04:40] where your money would only earn 3% per

[2:04:43] year, but that's a possibility as well.

[2:04:45] So, we're trying to be very creative to

[2:04:47] finance this this community. Any

[2:04:50] questions?

[2:04:52] >> And I don't know what was in your

[2:04:53] packet. Did you end up putting in the

[2:04:55] slide deck in the pack? Okay.

[2:04:57] Yeah.

[2:04:58] >> Yeah.

[2:04:58] So, you can review that and if you

[2:05:00] have questions, we're more than happy to answer.

[2:05:02] >> This is this is good kind of getting the

[2:05:04] um the talk track over because you

[2:05:05] already read the slides, but kind of

[2:05:07] getting the commentary I think is

[2:05:08] important. I mean, like I I read that

[2:05:11] Colorado Sun article as well. And that's

[2:05:13] what just struck me is, you know, it

[2:05:16] with limited resources for affordable

[2:05:18] housing, what can we do? And this is I'm

[2:05:21] not asking you to see you have a great

[2:05:24] idea, but like we need to change the the

[2:05:27] focus to be a little more balanced

[2:05:29] between existing housing and

[2:05:31] construction. It seems like there's a

[2:05:33] lot of a push a lot of a push like let's

[2:05:35] do have nonprofits be able to develop

[2:05:37] inexpensively. Let's you know density

[2:05:40] your transit that's great. We also have

[2:05:43] a lot of housing that's um kind of

[2:05:46] affordable by design that we need to

[2:05:49] preserve. Yeah,

[2:05:50] >> it's going to be a lot more um

[2:05:53] expeditious and efficient with money to

[2:05:56] make that uh stay affordable. And that's

[2:05:58] what just kind of

[2:06:00] >> confounds me is why we're not focusing

[2:06:03] on that more. Um so I don't know. I mean

[2:06:06] that's kind of a rhetorical question of

[2:06:08] sorts, but

[2:06:09] >> that's that's what strikes me with this

[2:06:11] because I mean Cavern Springs is one of many like you said was it 50

[2:06:16] >> 40 50 to parachute. I would say about 8

[2:06:19] to 10 have been preserved. So when I say

[2:06:21] 50, it includes Smuggler Mobile Home

[2:06:23] Park in Aspen.

[2:06:24] >> And so as you get closer down here,

[2:06:27] almost all of them have been preserved

[2:06:28] one way or another. Either it's RORO or,

[2:06:31] you know, Woody Creek is actually a

[2:06:32] metro district that that manages it in

[2:06:35] manages it instead of an HOA. Um, you

[2:06:38] know, over here we're lucky there's a

[2:06:39] land use restriction on the Roaring Fork

[2:06:41] mobile home park, but that's been slated

[2:06:44] for development a couple times when a

[2:06:46] developer bought the parcel. And I don't

[2:06:48] know the the current status of it. I

[2:06:50] know that's something of long-term

[2:06:52] interest for you all as well is how do

[2:06:55] we balance the needs there?

[2:06:58] >> Thanks.

[2:07:01] Other questions or comments for the

[2:07:05] team here? Thank you for taking the time

[2:07:08] to come out and share about your

[2:07:10] community to let us know what you're

[2:07:12] doing to preserve it.

[2:07:16] >> Are there specific things like there,

[2:07:18] you know, web pages, social media, like

[2:07:21] you know, the things that we can do to,

[2:07:23] you know, help?

[2:07:24] >> Yeah, the the

[2:07:27] what is it called? The housing justice

[2:07:30] fund. It's a special interest fund at

[2:07:33] the Aspen Community Foundation. We have

[2:07:37] readily raised over $100,000 with small

[2:07:40] donations already to that. And so that's a great thing where anyone in the

[2:07:45] community can play a role not just for

[2:07:48] Cavern Springs, but for the ongoing work

[2:07:50] that's that's going to need to occur.

[2:07:53] We are going to be talking to

[2:07:54] businesses. We're just starting the kind

[2:07:56] of the the philanthropic side. We've

[2:07:58] been working pretty heavily on the

[2:08:00] municipal side with commitments from

[2:08:02] Carbondale, Snow Mass Village,

[2:08:06] town of or city of Glennwood Springs,

[2:08:09] city of Aspen has said yes to some

[2:08:11] amount there. They haven't determined

[2:08:12] the amount yet. And then picking county

[2:08:14] and Eagle County will be approaching as

[2:08:17] well. So we're now that those are those

[2:08:19] conversations are in flight with

[2:08:20] different communities.

[2:08:22] We our target there is about $6 million

[2:08:25] and and April Long of the West Mountain

[2:08:27] Regional Housing Coalition is going to

[2:08:31] manage the municipal and county piece of

[2:08:33] the work as she's done before and has

[2:08:35] done, you know, an incredible job with

[2:08:37] that. And then we're going to tap our

[2:08:39] networks for the business community. And

[2:08:41] the business community rose to the

[2:08:43] challenge last time and it's very hard

[2:08:46] on the heels of that for for all of us

[2:08:48] to, you know, to just keep keep doing

[2:08:49] it. Um, so we're gonna we're trying to

[2:08:51] expand that business community network.

[2:08:56] >> Good.

[2:08:56] >> So any anything you can do and touch

[2:08:58] base with me if you have ideas and we're

[2:09:00] trying to be creative and keep it moving

[2:09:02] forward. You know, we've we've talked

[2:09:03] with RAFTA, we've talked with all sorts

[2:09:05] of interested organizations that that

[2:09:07] have already invested in affordable

[2:09:08] housing. And, you know, we're we're

[2:09:10] looking at flexible ways for things like

[2:09:13] buying the opportunity if a if a mobile

[2:09:16] home needs to be sold for a business to

[2:09:18] be able to purchase it for their staff.

[2:09:21] Uh, which which actually worked with

[2:09:23] Garfield County and Habitat for

[2:09:25] Humanity. That approach helped Garfield

[2:09:27] County get their first affordable

[2:09:29] housing units that were paid for by the

[2:09:31] government, which was a big

[2:09:33] [clears throat] big step for them.

[2:09:36] >> Yeah.

[2:09:37] I actually watched the RAFTA

[2:09:39] presentation and I was really interested

[2:09:41] by coming up with creative ways to try

[2:09:43] and figure out more pieces to that

[2:09:47] capital stack. And I just want to say

[2:09:49] thank you for being here, Monica and

[2:09:50] Elena. Gracias.

[2:09:54] Your stories are important to hear. And

[2:10:03] in partic

[2:10:10] and I know we're we're in a tight place

[2:10:13] for funding, but I think thinking

[2:10:15] creatively and trying to see where we

[2:10:17] can help um elevate your stories is

[2:10:20] really important.

[2:10:23] Every bit helps. Thank you so much.

[2:10:25] >> Thank you.

[2:10:26] so much for your time tonight.

[2:10:29] >> Thanks for coming out. Good luck.

[2:10:36] All right,

[2:10:38] we have uh council actions next and the

[2:10:42] first one and the only one is item 7A

[2:10:44] which is a resolution number 20 series

[2:10:46] of 2026 resolution of the town council

[2:10:48] of the town of Basalt, Colorado

[2:10:50] allocating funds from the town's

[2:10:51] short-term rental regulatory fee and

[2:10:53] lodging tax fund toward acquisition of a

[2:10:56] deed restriction on a free market unit

[2:10:58] at 720 Lakeside Drive in partnership

[2:11:01] with Eagle County and James you're up

[2:11:04] for this one.

[2:11:04] >> Yeah, thank you. Uh, as the mayor

[2:11:06] indicated, this item is a resolution to

[2:11:09] allocate funds to participate in a buy

[2:11:11] down of a deed restriction uh, in

[2:11:14] partnership with Eagle County on the

[2:11:16] free market unit at 720 Lakeside Drive.

[2:11:19] Uh the council previously approved the

[2:11:22] framework for a prior buy down potential

[2:11:25] uh that didn't go through at that time

[2:11:26] and now uh we have this new opportunity

[2:11:30] at 720 uh Lakeside Drive. Uh the town's

[2:11:34] contribution would be 97,500

[2:11:38] uh which equates to 15% of the purchase

[2:11:42] price. Uh and Eagle County would be

[2:11:44] putting in 15% of the purchase price as

[2:11:47] well. Uh the resolution would allocate

[2:11:51] approximately 80,000 from the town's

[2:11:53] short-term regulatory fee uh which is

[2:11:56] what we have uh gained this year from

[2:11:59] the regulatory fee. And then the

[2:12:01] remainder would be made up uh from the

[2:12:04] additional lodging tax funds uh that

[2:12:07] were uh granted by the voters uh this

[2:12:09] past uh election. Um and so staff

[2:12:14] believes that this is a good opportunity

[2:12:16] to increase uh the number of uh buy

[2:12:20] downs that we have uh in the uh town of

[2:12:23] Basalt. Uh it is within the town's

[2:12:26] boundaries. Uh so staff would suggest uh approving the resolution uh to

[2:12:33] allocate the funds towards the buy down

[2:12:36] uh so that we can participate with Eagle

[2:12:39] County in this buy down scenario. Jeff,

[2:12:43] do you have anything to add? We've been

[2:12:45] working uh with Eagle County staff um on

[2:12:49] kind of the framework of the buy down a

[2:12:51] bit and so we're we're still kind of

[2:12:54] talking to them about that, but staff

[2:12:56] would suggest uh allocating the funds.

[2:13:00] >> Yeah, I think you covered it.

[2:13:05] » How does that work on the

[2:13:09] p the purchase of the unit? I assume

[2:13:11] this unit is for sale.

[2:13:14] Person who wants to buy it has applied

[2:13:16] for the benefit is getting the benefit

[2:13:18] and then what is their role and

[2:13:21] responsibility beyond that other than to

[2:13:23] just sign it off as a restricted unit.

[2:13:26] Do they still have to come up with 20%

[2:13:28] of the down that's left or how does that

[2:13:31] all

[2:13:31] >> uh you know in terms of you know what

[2:13:34] would the buyer have to come up with in

[2:13:37] for down payment and so forth? I think

[2:13:40] it might vary. I don't know that it's

[2:13:42] prescribed.

[2:13:44] Harper might be the best one to answer

[2:13:45] this having gone through this but or all

[2:13:48] the way to the you have a near finish

[2:13:51] line. I don't know. Do you want to can

[2:13:53] you help with that a little bit?

[2:14:01] » Yeah. So

[2:14:03] trying to re recollect my um memory but

[2:14:06] I think the um the buy down is it's 30%.

[2:14:12] So the buyers

[2:14:14] has to put in at least 3% of their own

[2:14:18] funds

[2:14:20] and however they come up with that is up

[2:14:22] to them. But um typically the good deeds

[2:14:26] program requires that the the buyer put

[2:14:29] in some of their own equity so that they

[2:14:32] have some teeth in it. Um and then and

[2:14:35] then between Eagle and the Town of

[2:14:37] Assault, then they provide the rest of

[2:14:38] the

[2:14:40] um of the funds for the initial down

[2:14:43] payment.

[2:14:44] >> And and I think it's a 3 to 5% uh range

[2:14:48] for the actual purchaser to put down and

[2:14:51] it's on a case-byase basis. It's my my

[2:14:54] understanding. And then Eagle County and

[2:14:57] the town in exchange for the down

[2:14:59] payment get the deed restriction to

[2:15:01] prefer preserve the affordability of the

[2:15:03] unit.

[2:15:06] » And it comes with a 3% appreciation cap

[2:15:10] on an annual basis and a requirement

[2:15:12] that they be a full-time employee the

[2:15:15] next purchaser as well.

[2:15:18] I had a question on on on the funding

[2:15:20] source to see if a a different scenario

[2:15:24] we could perhaps explore. I know in the

[2:15:26] past um we had had a hundred,000

[2:15:30] um from the Balt forward 2030 money

[2:15:33] budgeted for I think even last year um

[2:15:36] budgeted for uh deed buyowns. Um, and

[2:15:41] that that was a a sticking point with

[2:15:44] West Mountain as far as a contribution

[2:15:46] because it could only be used within um,

[2:15:49] you know, because of the ballot language

[2:15:50] only could be used within the town

[2:15:51] limits. Um, so what I would I would like

[2:15:56] to explore is looking at taking

[2:15:59] if we didn't use that 100,000 last year.

[2:16:02] [clears throat]

[2:16:02] Um, and we I think we were considering

[2:16:04] that for the last deed buy down, even

[2:16:06] that 100,000

[2:16:07] using that for this purchase and the and

[2:16:11] the funds that we have from the

[2:16:12] short-term rental fees and lodging tax

[2:16:14] because they have greater flexibility,

[2:16:16] could we use that instead for um West

[2:16:20] Mountain Regional Housing Coalition and

[2:16:22] like a regional um effort because that's

[2:16:26] going to be recurring. Um we're a member

[2:16:28] and you know I know Angel and now you

[2:16:31] Gloria sit on on that board representing

[2:16:32] BAL but I'm also there for RAFTA. So, I

[2:16:34] know that um you know, we don't kind of

[2:16:38] have a free and completely free and

[2:16:40] clear um funding source for them at this

[2:16:43] up until this point, but we could use

[2:16:45] this money for that and we could use um

[2:16:49] basalt for 2030 money potentially for uh

[2:16:53] for this deed bite down because that's

[2:16:55] important too, but it's in the town

[2:16:56] limits, so it would fit better. Um I

[2:16:59] wanted to see if that was feasible and what what others thought. Well, and

[2:17:04] so for a while we've been telling West

[2:17:07] Mountain, oh, we can't give more. Our

[2:17:08] hands are tied because this money sits

[2:17:11] in a pot that is tied to this ballot

[2:17:13] language. And so it has to be used

[2:17:14] within the boundary of basalt.

[2:17:17] And so and and David and I, you know,

[2:17:20] are in agreement on this that

[2:17:22] why not use that money that is so

[2:17:25] restricted for this specific purpose for

[2:17:28] which it was intended and free up the

[2:17:30] other funds, the STR and the lodging

[2:17:32] funds that aren't as restricted for

[2:17:36] other use to, you know, it can be what

[2:17:38] we give to West Mountain as our annual

[2:17:41] commitment because then it can be used

[2:17:43] outside of the boundaries of assault. I

[2:17:45] think that makes a lot I think that

[2:17:47] makes a lot of sense.

[2:17:48] >> Doug has some opinions on the [laughter]

[2:17:51] >> or Jeff about like the specific uses of

[2:17:53] funds and the where they are in the

[2:17:55] ballot language and

[2:17:58] >> I'll let you speak to where this money

[2:18:01] lives in the budget. I can speak to the

[2:18:02] restrictions, but go ahead.

[2:18:04] >> Yeah, I mean I think um it's not really

[2:18:06] in my opinion. I think it's like the

[2:18:08] it's true that the ordinance for the

[2:18:09] short-term regulatory fees can be used

[2:18:12] for at the sole discretion of council.

[2:18:14] So it's quite a wide aperture on how the

[2:18:17] funds can be used. I believe that's

[2:18:19] similar to the lodging tax as well. And

[2:18:22] it is true that we have about right now

[2:18:25] 83,000 or so collected in short-term

[2:18:28] regulatory fees. We have that in the

[2:18:30] books and I'm anticipating that we would

[2:18:33] likely get somewhere between two to

[2:18:35] $250,000 of additional lodging taxes for

[2:18:38] the 2% lift that we received in the

[2:18:41] fall. So those those

[2:18:42] >> I [clears throat] feel pretty good about

[2:18:43] those numbers. I would caution the uh

[2:18:47] using the the basalt forward money is

[2:18:49] really the bond money. Uh we had taxable

[2:18:51] and a tax exempt offering. The tax

[2:18:54] exempt money for the bonds went for

[2:18:56] Midland. The taxable bond offering went

[2:18:58] for affordable housing in green. And

[2:19:01] this council um had and this was before

[2:19:05] me um I think had some sort of

[2:19:08] allocation that 25% of that should go to

[2:19:10] green and 75% should go to affordable

[2:19:13] housing. So we really been dividing up

[2:19:14] the money in my mind 75% affordable 25%

[2:19:19] green. So right now I would say to you

[2:19:22] that we we do have money uh in the bond

[2:19:24] taxable bond money to use for this

[2:19:26] purpose. Uh my caution would be is that

[2:19:29] we're looking at funding parcel nine.

[2:19:32] Parcel 9 rugby field has 16 units has a

[2:19:35] funding gap of potentially $8 million

[2:19:40] and um and that's you know

[2:19:44] [clears throat] could be more could be

[2:19:45] less but it's looking look looking at

[2:19:47] now there's two different people looked

[2:19:49] at the same time and both came up with

[2:19:51] $8 million. So I'm thinking you know

[2:19:53] it's probably going to be $8 million. So

[2:19:56] it would be good to use in my view of

[2:19:58] closing that gap the bond money and that

[2:20:01] bond money would be parcel 9. Now if you

[2:20:02] use the bond money this as we're

[2:20:04] referring to as bought forward money for

[2:20:07] this deed buy down that's just another

[2:20:10] $100,000 or so you won't have. So that

[2:20:13] would be just laying it out. That's how

[2:20:15] I would view it. It's up it's up to it's

[2:20:17] council's decision about how it's used.

[2:20:19] Just kind those are all the facts as I

[2:20:22] see the field. Well, it's not

[2:20:23] necessarily money we wouldn't have

[2:20:25] because we could then apply STR and

[2:20:27] lodging tax money to parcel 9 as well.

[2:20:30] >> That's true. And money money is

[2:20:31] fungeible. That's true.

[2:20:32] >> I guess that's our point is that the

[2:20:34] bond money is highly restrictive.

[2:20:36] >> It is.

[2:20:37] >> Whereas the other revenue sources are

[2:20:39] less so. So if we have a kind of rare

[2:20:43] opportunity to apply the bond money I I

[2:20:47] don't know

[2:20:48] >> within the town limits which obviously

[2:20:50] pal 9 is too parcel 9 is as well but

[2:20:54] I guess you know I've been sitting in

[2:20:56] West Mountain meetings for in these

[2:20:58] meetings for two years and we've been

[2:21:00] saying we wish we could do more but we

[2:21:02] can't because this bond money can't be

[2:21:05] used outside you know and then here we

[2:21:08] are using other funds

[2:21:10] >> to fund exactly what we have been

[2:21:13] waiting for the opportunity to use the

[2:21:15] bond money to fund.

[2:21:16] >> So it's also just a little bit

[2:21:18] contradictory, you know, to what we've

[2:21:20] been saying.

[2:21:22] >> I I would agree. I mean, and that was

[2:21:24] one of the big re I mean reasons I

[2:21:26] wanted to support and I supported the

[2:21:28] short-term rental fee is I wanted to

[2:21:30] have another lever, another source to

[2:21:33] use at the uh the regional level. I

[2:21:36] mean, that was that was a big driver for

[2:21:38] that. I I don't think I'm the only one.

[2:21:40] Um, in that case, I I know we're going

[2:21:43] to we we have a gap. We're going to have

[2:21:45] to find a partner. I mean, and we're

[2:21:47] probably going to talk about that at

[2:21:48] some point, but I this is again it comes

[2:21:51] to that balance too of, you know,

[2:21:52] building versus um preserving existing

[2:21:56] >> as well. And I think to relate it just

[2:21:59] Jeff opinion this was again my view is

[2:22:03] that you know I don't believe it's been

[2:22:05] written anywhere that that arbit it was

[2:22:07] somewhat arbitrary how the the money was

[2:22:09] divvied up between green and affordable

[2:22:10] balancing I don't think that's really

[2:22:11] ordained anywhere and I think the bond

[2:22:13] offering uh contemplated the construct

[2:22:16] of both of them and did not specifically

[2:22:18] call out that money. We have had we have

[2:22:21] had one green project and that was the

[2:22:24] installation of the solar roofs at the

[2:22:26] basically the high school and the middle

[2:22:28] school

[2:22:28] >> and we're not we don't have anything on

[2:22:30] deck to to use that money for the

[2:22:33] question% of the bond money.

[2:22:35] >> Exactly. So could we use the green money

[2:22:37] >> and I and again that's not a decision

[2:22:39] for me to make but that would that would

[2:22:41] open up the

[2:22:42] >> that would open up the available

[2:22:45] >> that's over my hands too. It's all good.

[2:22:46] >> Can't steal the green money.

[2:22:48] So that's that's my plan.

[2:22:50] >> The green money.

[2:22:51] >> Why?

[2:22:53] >> No, but

[2:22:54] >> I get um

[2:22:55] >> but just removing the money. Like it's

[2:22:57] like this is such semantics.

[2:22:59] >> Like I get it. I'm sure we can figure it

[2:23:02] out on the back end. I think we all

[2:23:04] agree on it. We're going to talk

[2:23:07] ourselves in a circle.

[2:23:09] I I I would say whatever you want. We'll

[2:23:12] tell Doug he'll get it done and we'll

[2:23:14] vote on it. Let's go there

[2:23:17] >> on the on the bond money. I'd have to go

[2:23:20] back and [clears throat] look at this,

[2:23:21] but I mean there was it's not in the

[2:23:25] ballot question, but it was specifically

[2:23:27] I know contemplated

[2:23:29] >> how that money would be allocated

[2:23:31] between the three purposes at the time

[2:23:34] it was put forward because there was,

[2:23:36] you know, rough estimates for

[2:23:38] calculations of the work on Midland and

[2:23:40] so on and so forth. And so, and I I

[2:23:42] don't recall if that was in like recital

[2:23:44] to the ordinance that submitted the

[2:23:46] ballot question or or not, but just

[2:23:49] before we rush into reallocating money

[2:23:52] related for for green purposes, I just

[2:23:55] would

[2:23:56] >> want to take and we're not doing that

[2:23:58] today.

[2:23:59] >> Yeah. Yeah.

[2:24:00] >> We we have either

[2:24:01] >> an example, but I don't think we're

[2:24:02] looking to do that.

[2:24:04] >> We're going to have either an 8 million

[2:24:05] or uh an $ 8.1 million gap. a different kettle of fish than uh trying

[2:24:14] Yeah, that's another conversation. We're

[2:24:16] I think for tonight the 100,000 is or so

[2:24:20] is what we got to figure out if we want

[2:24:22] to source that from uh but the salt the

[2:24:25] bond money and I I would support doing

[2:24:27] that.

[2:24:28] >> Yeah.

[2:24:30] is my support.

[2:24:34] » Mayor, I move the town council adopt

[2:24:35] resolution number 20 series of 2026 with

[2:24:39] the change of the money coming from the

[2:24:40] bond fund instead of

[2:24:42] >> STR and lodging

[2:24:43] >> the S str and lodging tax.

[2:24:45] >> Second.

[2:24:46] >> All right, it's been moved and seconded.

[2:24:48] Uh Pam, will you please call the role?

[2:24:51] [clears throat]

[2:24:52] >> Okay, let's begin with Angela Anderson.

[2:24:54] >> Yes.

[2:24:55] >> Rick Stevens.

[2:24:58] Um,

[2:24:59] yes.

[2:25:01] >> Angel Dup Prebuchart.

[2:25:03] >> Yes.

[2:25:04] >> Ryan Slack.

[2:25:04] >> Yes.

[2:25:05] >> David Knight.

[2:25:06] >> Yes.

[2:25:06] >> Deer Schindler.

[2:25:07] >> Yes.

[2:25:08] >> Hannah Berman.

[2:25:09] >> Yes.

[2:25:09] >> Motion carries unanimously. Thank you.

[2:25:12] >> As a caveat though, I think that, you

[2:25:14] know, just running numbers in my head

[2:25:16] here. If someone was to come in with a

[2:25:19] million half dollar

[2:25:22] purchase and apply for 30%

[2:25:25] from the fund, they would get $450,000

[2:25:30] if Eagle County and Basalt still agreed

[2:25:32] to the same policy. Where's where's the

[2:25:35] cap, you know, and how fast can this six

[2:25:37] million be exhausted if people that are

[2:25:41] willing in this, you know, a different

[2:25:43] market um to come in and you offer their

[2:25:46] home up for sale with a deed restriction

[2:25:49] attached with the current benefit

[2:25:52] attached and then not have to and then

[2:25:54] the purchaser doesn't have to come up.

[2:25:56] The purchaser just has to qualify for

[2:25:59] the 70% of the original purchase price

[2:26:01] with no down payment. It's it's kind of

[2:26:03] a slippery slope, I think, at the end of

[2:26:05] the day. And the bond proceeds are are

[2:26:08] six million bucks. That's it.

[2:26:11] >> Well, we Well, we don't have six million

[2:26:14] more.

[2:26:14] >> It's a it's a fair point. I mean, I But

[2:26:17] in my mind, we have a we had a h 100,000

[2:26:19] that we've been budgeting for at least

[2:26:21] one if not two years, right?

[2:26:23] >> And now we've allocated that. So if if

[2:26:26] there are more requests for deed

[2:26:27] restrictions, we're going to have to

[2:26:28] have a different conversation because

[2:26:31] there is no more money budget if this

[2:26:33] was our

[2:26:34] >> in town potentially. I think there is

[2:26:37] >> if people but we could that would be a

[2:26:39] different

[2:26:40] >> you know we'd have to basically be

[2:26:42] reappropriating or appropriating

[2:26:43] additional funds. So

[2:26:45] >> but back to the original like intent

[2:26:47] though is that what this decision in my

[2:26:49] mind allows us to do is to if the

[2:26:52] council wanted to give more to West M up

[2:26:56] their contribution to West Mountain

[2:26:58] Regional Housing Coalition

[2:27:00] >> comes from another

[2:27:01] >> because it can come from STR and lodging

[2:27:03] fees which has a broader use

[2:27:06] >> uh allowance and that can still help buy

[2:27:10] you know buy down houses outside of the

[2:27:12] town boundaries. So it doesn't h that's

[2:27:14] the whole point is that like doesn't h

[2:27:16] we don't have to use bond money. It's

[2:27:18] very unusual, I think. I mean, to find

[2:27:20] someone that can afford a mortgage on a

[2:27:22] million dollars, which is what the

[2:27:24] homeowner still has to do, I think it's

[2:27:26] the limiting factor.

[2:27:30] >> Um, yes,

[2:27:32] >> that's [laughter]

[2:27:33] narrow.

[2:27:35] >> Yeah. Market for that.

[2:27:38] >> Anyways,

[2:27:39] >> all right. Um, well, thank you all. And,

[2:27:42] uh, next up we have, um, our, uh, an

[2:27:46] executive session. So, I'd entertain a

[2:27:47] motion. May there

[2:27:48] >> mayor move the town council enter

[2:27:49] executive session to discuss personnel

[2:27:51] matters in accordance to CRS24-6-424F,

[2:27:55] more specifically town manager review.

[2:27:59] >> Second.

[2:28:00] >> It's been moved and seconded. All those

[2:28:02] in favor, please signify by saying I.

[2:28:04] >> I.

[2:28:06] >> So, thank you very much. We're going to

[2:28:08] move into executive session in a moment.

[2:28:09] Um, when that is and so we're going to

[2:28:11] cut the uh TV feed. When that is over,

[2:28:14] the meeting will be adjourned. So, uh,

[2:28:17] those watching online, good night. And

[2:28:19] uh take a few moments here to set

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