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[0:09]
Welcome to the special meeting
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of the municipal council of
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Monday, December the 16th. And
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now, the clerk will tell us the
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agenda.
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>> Could you say in your mic?
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>> Seconded.
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>> Okay. All in favour? All
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right. I think I'm going to
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reverse the question period
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because I think the presentation
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-- for the question period.
[1:21]
[Speaking French]
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>> I will try to answer your
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question in my capacities. Your
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questions are related to the
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three-year capital expenditure
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program. So the first question
[1:47]
is related to the anticipated
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amount that is expected to be
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borrowed or finance. For 2020,
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five we have a pretty good idea
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for the years and the amount
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that is expected to be borrowed
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depends on the approved contract
[2:02]
by Council the moment of their
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realization. Available grants to
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be confirmed and available
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financial sources such as
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reserves. Your second question,
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a little related, is taking into
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account principal repayment or
[2:18]
other debt retirement. What is
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the expected net increase and
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long term debt and this year? We
[2:25]
will need to carry by the end of
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year 2027. Similar to the first
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answer, to your first question,
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the increase of the debt always
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depends of the available grants
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and the moment we borrow to
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finance the projects. Like I
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said, it's in the presentation.
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We will pay around $2 million a
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year in capital interests in our
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budget. Question number three,
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what is the projected tax
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increase for the average
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Beaconsfield household? That
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would be required to -- find the
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additional debt. We will find
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out if we have additional data
[3:00]
after 2025. And also, it depends
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to some extent on the above
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answers as well. But operational
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cost of services and means to
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finance those costs other than
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taxation. And your fourth
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question is related to the why
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we do not put in the item in
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details in the capital
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expenditure programs. The reason
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is that we want to, we do this
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since 2018 where the decision
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does not provide more details.
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The City will provide more
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details after the approval of
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the CP in the -- in a way to
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maintain a healthy competition
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amongst bidders during the
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bidding process. We want to
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avoid giving those specific
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numbers during the adoption of
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the capital program. I believe
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that solves all the answers,
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Mister Mayor.
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>> Thank you, Mr. Boileau. And,
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now are there any questions on
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the budget from the floor,
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strictly on the budget?.
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>> Or capital programs.
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>> I knew so box.
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>> It's a special meeting, it's
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on the budget. We will have a
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regular meeting after.
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>> Totally on the budget. I was
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a good girl and watched my
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homework today. I watched the
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video and analyzed it and I went
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through all of the information
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because I always say everybody,
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democracy is very important. And
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it is. It starts here in the
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municipal area. If any of my
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questions -- I'm new to this. I
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usually do patient advocacy and
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other stuff. Just before we
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start --
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>> Could you give your name and
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your --
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>> Cheryl and Simon O on Sussex
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Drive. For the tax increases and
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the justification of the 3.28
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tax increase, I understand what
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was just said. And I understand
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that the inflation in the
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agglomeration costs are being
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cited as part of the
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justification. But I think he
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answered this in the time
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coming, we will see more
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detailed breakdown of what that
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-- what those increases mean to
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us. Oops, I lost my page. One
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second. Basically, it will be
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interesting to see the details
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for the breakdown for those
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increases. And I was also paying
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attention to mitigation plans
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for vulnerable populations and
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senior citizens on a fixed
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income. So I will be looking
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forward to hearing how we will
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help them out with taking into
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account the increases in the
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taxes. And of course, my big
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concern is the Public Security
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budget, the increase of public
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security spending. And you know
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this is an area of deep concern
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for me lately. I was wondering
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if you could elaborate what any
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new programs or equipment or
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initiatives are being talked
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about that would be related to
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the increase in the public
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security spending? And I do
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understand that that is probably
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related to the agglomeration as
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well. If you could expound on
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that a little bit. At the last
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meeting, I was talking about I
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would like to see a little more
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security.
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>> Some of your questions are
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related to the agglomeration
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budget. Not the local budgets.
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>> Yeah. If in the future we can
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have that. Be sickly, I think
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I'm at the end here. Oh, well, I
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just wanted to ask about the
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community programs. Okay, okay.
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Yeah, the community focused
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spending. How we can know if the
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budget supports programs for
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youth, seniors and vulnerable
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populations. And are there any
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reductions in the recreational
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or cultural activities that
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would impact community
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engagement at all? And I think I
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will do have to learn more about
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the agglomeration because I do
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think a lot of the questions go
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to that area. But I think for
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the future, if the public can
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understand even more about this,
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maybe it's because I am late
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coming to the party. If we can
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understand more services
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Beaconsfield gets from the city
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in return for all the money we
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are paying. I know there's a big
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-- I know this is a big effort
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on your part to look at that.
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But that's pretty much my
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question.
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>> Yeah. By the way, on the
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agglomeration budget, there was
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a permission that site for the
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last couple of weeks. I think it
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ended last week. Where you
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could've asked all the questions
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you had related to the
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agglomeration. Unfortunately,
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people from the municipalities
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don't seem to know or go to the
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agglomeration and ask questions
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about the agglomeration budget.
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That budget has a huge impact on
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your taxes. A huge impact on
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your taxes. And you will see
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this year that when we look at
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the real estate taxes overall, I
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think it is 70% of it that goes
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to the agglomeration. I think
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it's about 70%, right?
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>> About 70%.
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>> About 70% of the real estate
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taxes go to the agglomeration.
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So, it is a big chunk of your
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budget, your taxes. And I wish
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that our residents would get
[9:12]
much more interested in the
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agglomeration and the weight
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functions, and how it impacts
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your daily life and your taxes.
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And now, --
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>> I will try to answer some of
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your concerns that you mentioned
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a lot. Please feel free, you can
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write to me at another time if
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you have more questions. But
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speaking of Public Security,
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when it's our budget, it's
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really the police and the fire
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department, which is the
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agglomeration. The increases are
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quite hefty every year, I find.
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I think the mayor would agree
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with that as well. And about
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community services, we didn't
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take out any money from
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community services. In fact,
[10:00]
we've added some money for
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summer students to work in the
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connect project which would be
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an area that is very interesting
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for which we have gotten a price
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on October 12th. We've added a
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resource for the summer period.
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We can -- this program that we
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are working with Beaconsfield.
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We've added some manpower or
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women power, people power, I
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don't know anymore how we say
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this, but that is some people to
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do better cleanup and during the
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summer in our parks are, public
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spaces, the green spaces and
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parks. In a nutshell, that is
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what I would answer to your
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questions.
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>> Yeah. By the way, the police,
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the SPVM budget I think was
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exceeded by about $50 million in
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2024. And it is due to all the
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demonstrations, all the
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activities where the police had
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to get involved. In the 2025
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budget, it is coming back to the
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same amount as it was in the
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previous year. Again, we are
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looking at a huge deficit in
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2025, in the police budget in
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the agglomeration,
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unfortunately.
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Is this related to the budget?
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>> Yes it is. Hello. I am
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Nicole. I am going to say --
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piggybacking on what she was
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saying about the police budget.
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I believe that Beaconsfield is
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spending over 6 million on
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policing this year. Could you
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pull up the budget, specifically
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for police?
[12:01]
>> Well, 6 million for the
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police is what we pay as a share
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to the agglomeration. We don't
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manage that budget.
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>> I know that. But what are the
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things -- one way Beaconsfield
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could end up saving money is by
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partially defunding and
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certainly detail asking, it's
[12:20]
what he was talking about. You
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know, the Beaconsfield --
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Beaconsfield relies on your
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traditional first responders,
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police, fire, ambulance, public
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security. But Baie-D'Urfé and
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Pointe-Claire, they both have
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alternative deep tasking first
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responders, civilian first
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responders. For example, they
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have, in addition to the
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traditional ones, they will have
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-- who will help the police with
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search and rescue. If a person
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goes missing, there are
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volunteers to help find missing
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persons. So that's wonderful.
[13:03]
Certainly, we could bring that
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in. There is also -- Bader fee
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has volunteer seasons on patrol.
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>> Could you come to your
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question?
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>> Yeah. The question is why
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doesn't Beaconsfield do more
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indeed tasking? From a personal
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-- as a person on the autism
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spectrum, I have had negative
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encounters with police but I
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didn't need police.
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>> Are you talking about the
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police? Or the municipal patrol?
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>> I'm talking about the police
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and I am from Toronto. Toronto
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has -- she's a nurse.
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>> I think you should go to the
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agglomeration asked questions
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about the police. It is not
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under our control. It's under
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the jurisdiction of the
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agglomeration and you are
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welcome to ask your questions at
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the agglomeration.
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>> But one thing I was going to,
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say I know the police budget is
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under the agglomeration. But one
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thing that Beaconsfield could
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do, and I'm sure you could find
[14:04]
something somewhere in the
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budget to fund this, is to
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provide a community crisis
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service. Instead of having
[14:14]
police come when a person is
[14:16]
having a mental health crisis or
[14:20]
a neurological crisis, if the
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person is not armed, you could
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have a volunteer citizen who
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would be specially trained to
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become first responders. The
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city of Toronto does. That it's
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called the Toronto community
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crisis service. It works
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wonderful.
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>> Thank you very much for your
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suggestions. We will pass them
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on. Thank you.
[14:44]
>> Another thing I was going to
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say, and this does have to do
[14:47]
the budget, the budget is the
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one time that the dog pound is
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brought up. Okay? You can pull
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it up. It is in the tariffs.
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Because it says that a 50 dollar
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dog pound, feet if the dog is
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not licensed. This morning, just
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out of my own curiosity, what I
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did --
[15:11]
>> Could you get to your
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question? Because we cannot give
[15:13]
you half an hour of speeches.
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>> It's not. I talked to this
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architectural firm and got an
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estimate for redoing the dog
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pound. And they took one look at
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the pictures that I've taken of
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it through the window, not
[15:31]
inside. But they saw some
[15:32]
pictures, of a saw the tiny
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cages the dogs were in.
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>> What is your question?
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>> My question is, why does the
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city keep covering up the fact
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that there is a space where dogs
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are held? Why is the City
[15:47]
covering up the fact that there
[15:49]
is not a separate space for
[15:52]
eating, sleeping, and
[15:54]
elimination? There is no outdoor
[15:56]
outs -- access to the cage. Is
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there really tiny. Why does the
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city not bring up the fact that
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the storage room, which is twice
[16:04]
the size of the candle room, has
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--
[16:08]
>> Thank you for your question.
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I will ask Mr. Boileau to
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answer. No, this is it. That's
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it.
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>> My question is, what is the
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city of Beaconsfield going to do
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to expand it? It's only $5
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million and we could get a
[16:27]
fundraising campaign to try to
[16:29]
raise money to get the 5
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million.
[16:32]
>> Thank you very much. I will
[16:34]
ask Mr. Boileau to answer your
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question.
[16:37]
>> The city of Beaconsfield does
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not have a dog pound, there is a
[16:41]
little shelter that is available
[16:44]
for the occasionally found dog.
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That is straight. Normally,
[16:53]
within a few hours, it is back
[16:55]
to the --. There is nothing in
[16:57]
the budget for any improvement
[16:59]
of the dog. Down there is
[17:01]
nothing in the program for $5
[17:04]
million for a dog pound in
[17:06]
Beaconsfield. We do have --
[17:08]
normally, the dogs are returned
[17:09]
to their owners. Thank you.
[17:12]
>> And there was a husky who was
[17:13]
there for three days. A Husky
[17:14]
needs a lot of exercise. I've
[17:16]
been gathering data on the
[17:18]
animals myself. And I'm going to
[17:21]
set up an organization. To take
[17:24]
over that pound.
[17:25]
>> If you do not stop now --
[17:36]
any other questions?
[17:53]
This is on the budget, right?
[17:54]
>> Yes.
[17:55]
>> Okay.
[17:56]
>> Can you hear me? Or needs to
[17:59]
be plugged? You can hear me?
[18:01]
>> Identify yourself. Could you
[18:05]
identify yourself, please.
[18:06]
>> I am about to. I just wanted
[18:08]
to make sure you can hear me.
[18:09]
You can hear me? Great. My name
[18:11]
is Alison smiley. I'm on the
[18:14]
north side, over 25 years. I'm
[18:18]
inquiring about the expenditures
[18:20]
outlined in bylaw 163 and 164
[18:24]
that pertain to structural
[18:27]
rehabilitation work of water
[18:28]
mains and sewer pipes. Will the
[18:30]
City be directing funds to basin
[18:33]
21, which is located on the
[18:35]
north side and has the largest
[18:37]
number of pipes?
[18:38]
>> This is not on the agenda. It
[18:41]
was a special counsel. If you
[18:43]
want to come back after to the
[18:45]
regular Council, you can ask
[18:47]
your questions. In the meantime,
[18:48]
we are looking at the adoption
[18:49]
of the budget.
[18:50]
>> I know. I read the first
[18:52]
agenda.
[18:53]
>> No, you can come back at a
[18:55]
regular meeting and ask your
[18:57]
question.
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- Non, c'est l'adoption du
[19:05]
budget. C'est pas une
[19:06]
question...
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- Oui.
[19:09]
In your first agenda. So I
[19:11]
specifically split to make sure
[19:12]
that I read it that way. On the
[19:19]
agenda, you had one agenda and
[19:20]
then you have the other agenda.
[19:21]
The first meeting had an agenda.
[19:23]
In there, you have the
[19:24]
expenditures. Under the
[19:25]
expenditures, it talks about
[19:26]
bylaw 163 and 160. For if I got
[19:29]
it mixed up --
[19:34]
>> Come back to the regular
[19:37]
council which will start at
[19:38]
8:00. And you can come back with
[19:39]
your question. Thank you. No
[19:44]
more questions. We thank you
[19:46]
very much. Thank you very much.
[19:51]
>> It is not safe.
[19:53]
>> Thank you very much. I will
[19:57]
ask Mr. house to take care of
[20:00]
it. - Appelle la police. Appelle
[20:07]
la police. Appelle la police.
[20:23]
- Donc...
[20:24]
>> An option of the three-year
[20:25]
capital expenditure program for
[20:27]
2025 2026, and 2027.
[20:30]
>> Proposed.
[20:31]
>> Seconded.
[20:33]
>> All in favour? - Adoption du
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budget 2025 de la Ville de
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Beaconsfield.
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>> Proposed.
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>> Second.
[20:47]
>> All in favour? - À
[20:50]
l'unanimité. Closing of the
[20:54]
meeting.
[20:55]
>> We are now closing this
[20:58]
meeting. La levée de la séance,
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de la réunion. Et la prochaine
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réunion qui va être la séance
[21:06]
ordinaire du conseil municipal
[21:08]
va débuter à 8 heures.
[21:11]
- Est-ce qu'on peut voter?
[21:14]
- Est-ce qu'il y a un vote?
[21:18]
- J'appuie.
[21:19]
- Tout le monde en faveur? Oui?
[21:21]
- À l'unanimité. C'est bien.
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- On termine ça.