[0:00] Good. Okay. Um, court got out late today

[0:04] and so,

[0:05] uh, being the the time that it is, we

[0:08] don't want to waste anybody's time.

[0:09] Generally, we take a break in between

[0:11] and we won't today. We'll go right into

[0:13] our, um, commission meeting. So, um, the

[0:16] invocation will be given by myself after

[0:19] which uh, Corey Wild will give our uh,

[0:23] pledge of allegiance.

[0:27] Our heavenly fathers, we bow before thee

[0:29] this day. We are grateful for thy many

[0:30] blessings. Father, we are so thankful

[0:32] for the many blessings that thou bestows

[0:34] upon us each and every day. For the

[0:36] freedoms we enjoy in this country, the

[0:37] opportunity which you have to live here.

[0:39] Father in heaven, we are so grateful for

[0:41] our military and for our emergency

[0:44] services and for our police that protect

[0:46] us and keep us safe. Father in heaven,

[0:49] we're thankful, Father in heaven, for um

[0:52] all that thou provides. We ask that they

[0:54] might continue to bless us, Father, with moisture and help us to continue to live here and to enjoy being around

[1:03] one another. That we might be kind and understanding to those our neighbors

[1:07] and those who are around us. Father in

[1:09] heaven, we would ask at this time for a

[1:11] special blessing to be upon us here that

[1:13] as things are discussed this day that

[1:15] we'll be cordial and kind that we will

[1:18] uh sit back and and try to understand

[1:20] those things are being presented. Father

[1:22] in heaven, we love thee and appreciate

[1:24] thee. We ask that thee might please

[1:26] bless everybody in this room this day as

[1:28] uh they are here and also as they travel

[1:30] that they will be watched over and kept

[1:32] safe. We're thankful, Father in heaven,

[1:34] for thee and for thy son. And we say his

[1:36] name of thy son Jesus Christ. Amen.

[1:47] To the flag of the United States of

[1:49] America and to the republic for it

[1:53] stands one nation

[1:56] indivisible with liberty and justice for

[2:00] all.

[2:05] » All right. Thank you, Corey. We

[2:08] appreciate that. Um,

[2:12] >> so I have uh reviewed the minutes and

[2:15] make a motion to approve the minutes

[2:17] from April April 22nd, 2026.

[2:20] >> I'll second it.

[2:20] >> We have a motion to approve the minutes

[2:22] by Commissioner Bingham and a second by

[2:24] Commissioner Perry. There's no further

[2:27] discussion. All in favor say I.

[2:29] >> I. Motion passes.

[2:32] >> Okay. Administrative review, reports,

[2:35] and future agenda items. Commissioner

[2:36] Bingham,

[2:38] >> I have nothing to add today.

[2:39] >> Commissioner Perry,

[2:40] >> nothing.

[2:42] >> And I have nothing as well.

[2:45] Uh, former agenda items. Commissioner

[2:47] Bingham,

[2:48] >> nothing.

[2:49] >> Commissioner Perry,

[2:50] >> no.

[2:50] >> And I have nothing as well. Emergency

[2:53] management.

[2:55] >> Emergency manager is probably out

[2:56] dealing with the windstorm.

[2:57] >> Okay.

[2:59] Um

[3:00] Charlene ARPA or LT LT LTCF

[3:07] nothing. Okay.

[3:11] Commissioners agreement

[3:14] um number 2620

[3:16] uh for use of private property as

[3:18] firearm shooting range and Al Smart uh

[3:22] can you come up and just kind of visit

[3:24] with us a little bit about that. Al

[3:25] appreciate you being here.

[3:40] That's great, Al.

[3:43] Just perfect.

[3:45] Got to get closer to the mic.

[3:47] >> Hey, Al, can we get you a little closer

[3:48] to the mic there?

[3:56] Oh, Mike's working it here instead.

[4:23] Okay. We'd like to renew the lease on

[4:26] the Tmont and Bothwell range.

[4:31] » Okay.

[4:33] Did you I do you have any information as

[4:35] far as um I know in the past

[4:38] um you you provided and I've read the lease agreement right now you're

[4:41] basically saying if we allow the

[4:44] wildlife federation to use that range

[4:46] which is ours that you'll allow the the

[4:48] deputies and the officers in the county

[4:50] use the other range in Manowway which is

[4:51] yours. Is that correct?

[4:52] >> Yes, we will. Okay.

[4:54] >> All active duty law enforcement and

[4:56] military are granted a freebie to the

[4:59] range. Anybody in here

[5:03] Okay.

[5:04] >> Should have cards.

[5:06] >> Perfect.

[5:08] And from what I've been told, it's

[5:10] having you guys be at that range has

[5:11] helped uh keep some of the vandalism

[5:13] down. Is that

[5:14] >> Yes.

[5:15] >> Okay. We appreciate that.

[5:18] >> The county sheriff popped up last time

[5:19] when we came to one of these meetings

[5:22] when we got it established. He said

[5:24] vandalism have gone down 92% in the

[5:27] county with firearms since we opened

[5:30] that range.

[5:32] Fantastic.

[5:33] >> Commissioners,

[5:34] >> yes.

[5:34] >> Just to let you know, there is um in the

[5:37] contract, we changed it to a five-year

[5:39] contract from a four-year contract at

[5:41] Mr. Smart's request. Um we also left the

[5:45] liability requirement at 2 million on

[5:47] the insurance policy. Um the state does

[5:50] require the county to cover up to three

[5:52] million on liability. Um, and so what

[5:56] that would do is if um the federation

[5:58] covers their policy for the two million

[6:00] if there happened to be an incident,

[6:02] just so you're aware, that would put

[6:04] some liability onto the county for that

[6:06] extra million.

[6:08] >> But all law enforcement officers are

[6:10] insured for $5 million.

[6:12] >> Okay. Okay. Very good. If there's no

[6:15] further discussion, I'll entertain a

[6:17] motion.

[6:20] I would make a motion that we approve

[6:22] agreement 2620 for the use of property

[6:25] as firearm as firearm shooting range as

[6:28] explained and presented to us.

[6:30] >> Second.

[6:31] >> We have a motion by Commissioner Perry

[6:34] to approve 2620 for use of property as

[6:38] firearm shooting range by Al Smart and a

[6:41] second by Commissioner Bingham. If

[6:43] there's no further discussion, all in

[6:45] favor say I.

[6:46] >> I. I.

[6:47] >> Motion passes. Thanks Al. Appreciate it.

[6:53] » Okay. Uh review and decision on the U.

[6:57] State aid agreement 2619 for the

[7:00] historic orchard pathway. Um and Scott

[7:04] Lions is going to come and just present

[7:05] that to us.

[7:08] Appreciate being here, Scott.

[7:15] » All right.

[7:16] Not very loud. Scott Lions, Community

[7:19] Development Department. Uh so this is

[7:21] the state aid agreement for the historic

[7:23] orchard pathway. This is a uh multi-use

[7:28] non-motorized pathway that would extend

[7:30] from, if you're familiar with the it's

[7:33] already constructed from 800 north to

[7:36] the north border of Willard City. They

[7:38] constructed that portion and then Perry

[7:41] City has taken it from there. They're

[7:44] not quite to Walmart, but almost. It's

[7:46] under construction the further north you

[7:48] go. Uh this is uh an agreement between

[7:53] UD do and Willard City and Boxelder

[7:56] County to complete from 800 South where

[7:59] it ends uh in Willard City um down to

[8:04] I forget the south 8700 South in the

[8:07] county. So that's down where the like

[8:10] Chevron is, Hot Springs, Mobile Home

[8:12] Park, that area. Um

[8:15] anyway, so this this basically clarifies

[8:19] the county's responsibility in that uh

[8:23] and the Willard City's responsibility in

[8:25] that and UD do's responsibility in that.

[8:28] Uh the county and Willard City are

[8:32] combining to contribute a 20% match. Uh

[8:35] UD do is coming up with the 80% match. U

[8:39] DOT is actual cash the county and

[8:41] Willard city is a soft match meaning

[8:44] Willard City is the the value of the

[8:47] ride ofway that they're contributing for

[8:49] the trail is going into that and then

[8:51] the value the county has an easement uh

[8:54] across UTA property and the value of

[8:57] that easement uh is going towards that.

[9:00] So that's our soft match. No cash from

[9:02] the county. Willard city soft match is

[9:05] again right ofway and then uh you UD do

[9:08] comes up with the actual cash to

[9:10] complete the project.

[9:12] >> So is this in progress Scott or is this

[9:16] projected going forward till when?

[9:18] >> No, this this would give us kind of

[9:21] green light the funding so that we could

[9:23] begin the final design and construction

[9:25] of the project.

[9:27] >> How long does it anticipate for it to

[9:28] actually come to fruition?

[9:31] >> Uh that's a great question. Well, that's

[9:34] uh Jones and Associates is our engineer.

[9:36] They'll be the ones they also are the

[9:38] engineering firm for Willard City and

[9:40] likely will be ultimately assigned as

[9:43] the project manager. So, we'll see when

[9:45] we sit down with them um and get into

[9:48] the design phase what the time timeline

[9:51] looks like.

[9:53] >> So, thank you.

[9:59] » Okay. I'd entertain a motion. I would

[10:01] make a motion that we approve

[10:04] um decision on the U dot state aid

[10:06] agreement 2619 for the historic orchard

[10:08] pathway as explained by Scott Lions.

[10:11] >> Second.

[10:12] >> We have a motion by Commissioner Perry

[10:14] to approve the U. State aid agreement

[10:16] number 2619 for the historic Orchard

[10:20] Pathway and a second by Commissioner

[10:22] Bingham. If there's no further

[10:24] discussion, all in favor say I. I.

[10:27] >> Motion passes. Thank you.

[10:32] Okay. Um

[10:36] under under uh num number

[10:40] under under the fire department number B

[10:42] uh cooperation

[10:44] uh wildlife systems participation comm

[10:47] uh commitment statement agreement 26-21.

[10:53] Kevin Lloyd's going to talk a little bit

[10:54] to us about that. Thanks for being c

[10:56] being here Kevin.

[10:57] >> Kevin Lloyd Box County Fire Marshal. Um

[11:00] just for simplicity we just call it the

[11:02] PC.

[11:04] There's so many acronyms but this is the

[11:06] participation amount participation

[11:08] commitment from with the state uh for

[11:11] our the CWPP the cooperative wildlife

[11:14] protection plan of this is what we're

[11:18] going to give for basically that

[11:20] insurance policy. Uh what you got in

[11:22] front of you is some of the uh fuel

[11:24] brakes that they're going to create. uh

[11:26] some other projects that are lined up,

[11:28] some new equipment, um new brush trucks

[11:31] that are coming out, water trucks, uh

[11:33] whole new fleet heading out that way

[11:36] with our participation out the state's

[11:37] allowing us to build those through that.

[11:45] » Commissioners, any discussion?

[11:47] >> Um I don't have questions.

[11:49] >> Mr. Perry,

[11:50] >> just with this agreement, are we going

[11:53] to be able to do some things to help?

[11:54] Like I said, you have HAL is kind of out

[11:56] there on their own right now with some

[11:57] of this. I know we've got some folks

[11:59] moving out there. Will I be able to help

[12:00] those folks in Hal?

[12:01] >> Yeah, actually two of my wardens are

[12:03] moving out there.

[12:03] >> Okay.

[12:04] >> And they both have warden fire trucks,

[12:06] fire engines. We've talked to Hal a

[12:08] couple times. They're excited that we're

[12:11] coming out that way, too.

[12:12] >> Good to know because yeah, they're a

[12:13] long ways from other fire departments.

[12:15] So, it's a good thing we've got

[12:16] >> Yeah. Northrup rumor mill, but they

[12:18] might be closing that north plant, too,

[12:21] which has been helping us out in how for

[12:22] a while.

[12:24] Okay.

[12:25] >> Well, thank you. That's great

[12:26] information. Um, I'd entertain a motion.

[12:29] >> I'd make a motion that we approve coop

[12:31] the cooperative for wild and fire system

[12:33] participation commitment statement

[12:35] agreement 26-21.

[12:37] >> Second.

[12:38] >> We have a motion by Commissioner Perry

[12:41] to approve the cooperation wildlife

[12:44] system participation commitment

[12:45] statement agreement number 26-21 and a

[12:49] second by Commissioner Bingham. If

[12:51] there's no further discussion, all in

[12:53] favor say I.

[12:54] >> I.

[12:55] >> Motion passes. Thank you. Appreciate it,

[12:57] Kevin.

[13:01] » Plan's not You didn't You've already

[13:03] done that.

[13:03] >> Yeah, we did the plan already.

[13:04] >> The plan got approved in February, but I

[13:06] think Kevin needs a signed copy of it to

[13:08] send into the state along with this one.

[13:14] » Okay. Under the treasur's office, a

[13:16] request for forgiveness of late fees due

[13:19] to incorrect name on the notice account

[13:22] number Bravo 00000157.

[13:27] Jessica Smith

[13:29] and Corey Wild is going to visit with us

[13:31] on that.

[13:35] So, this item is in regards to a mobile

[13:37] home which is assessed as personal

[13:39] property instead of real. My

[13:41] understanding was prior to right now it

[13:45] was in her husband's name which was

[13:48] Justin

[13:50] excuse me should have been Justin Morris

[13:53] spelled M O R S and it was being mailed

[13:56] to Justin Moore M O R E probably just a

[14:01] typo or something. Um apparently that's

[14:05] the reason for the two years of

[14:08] non-payment and late fees. And I have a number here. I can give you this paper

[14:14] that the interest is calculated through

[14:16] yesterday if you want that for

[14:18] reference. But that what this item's in

[14:21] relation to. It was a wrong spelling on

[14:24] the last name for the it's now recorded

[14:27] in Jessica Smith's name, but for the two

[14:29] years in question

[14:31] was under Justin's name,

[14:33] >> but she's willing to pay the the regular

[14:35] taxes on it. Will you if we just forgive

[14:37] the late fees?

[14:40] >> That's my understanding. I haven't

[14:42] spoken with her. Erica, our personal

[14:44] property clerk has, but I said I'd come

[14:46] here and handle this tonight. But

[14:48] >> I mean, it sounds like a legitimate

[14:49] issue that's happened. Um, I think I

[14:52] would I would support um I'd make a

[14:55] motion that we forgive the late fees due

[14:57] to the incorrect name on that notice

[14:58] account of B0000157.

[15:03] » Second. We have a motion uh by

[15:05] Commissioner Perry to forgive the late

[15:07] fees due to incorrect name on the notice

[15:09] account of number uh B0000157

[15:16] and a second by Commissioner Bingham. If

[15:18] there's no further discussion, all in

[15:19] favor say I.

[15:20] >> I.

[15:21] Motion passes.

[15:23] >> Thank you.

[15:24] >> Okay. requesting an extension payment

[15:27] plan for property tax parcel

[15:29] 03-137-000032.

[15:33] Dustin Norman, would you just come and

[15:36] visit with us for a minute? Dustin,

[15:42] gentlemen.

[15:43] >> Okay. Can you just visit with us? Why

[15:45] are you requesting this?

[15:47] >> Um, when I met last time with you guys,

[15:49] I was under the impression I'd be

[15:50] released back to full duty at work. The

[15:53] medical doctors did not do that.

[15:54] December 8th.

[15:56] >> And then also,

[15:57] >> can you get closer to your microphone?

[15:58] >> Yes, sir. Um, I was not released back to

[16:02] work till December 8th, even though I

[16:03] thought it'd be sooner to the last time

[16:05] we met. And then due to medical issues,

[16:08] um, they've taken most of that, uh,

[16:11] income that's come in, but now that's

[16:12] been taken care of. Um, I've met with a

[16:15] few individuals in the county behind

[16:17] closed doors without violating HIPPA and

[16:20] grammar for anybody else about medical

[16:22] conditions and just requested for

[16:24] another one. But even I was lost with

[16:28] the fact that in the wording of the last

[16:30] meeting I uh requested for a year, but

[16:33] it was put in writing that it was till

[16:35] the year um less than five months. And I

[16:39] was like, I was shocked by that. But I

[16:42] did everything I could since then and

[16:44] made payments since then. And I request

[16:45] that I could have another full year to

[16:49] continue making the payments and getting

[16:51] that taken care of if you guys would

[16:54] allow

[16:57] >> any I'd like to hear from Sean. Sean,

[17:05] do

[17:05] >> you have any questions? Commissioner.

[17:09] » Yeah. If you just kind of what he what

[17:11] um he's Mr. Dustin, explain to us, Mr.

[17:13] Norman, explain to us where are they at?

[17:16] Where is he at at this point? Where are

[17:17] we?

[17:19] The total amount owing right now is

[17:20] $9,235.89

[17:23] represents about six years in back

[17:25] taxes.

[17:27] Slightly more than he did last year. He

[17:29] has made payments since uh he's had

[17:32] employment. There have been five

[17:34] payments made in the last 12 months.

[17:45] » And then commissioners, on the legal

[17:47] side, we do have an existing agreement

[17:48] in place with Mr. Norman that if we were

[17:51] to move forward with some sort of

[17:53] amendment, we would need to do that

[17:54] officially through an updated agreement.

[17:58] But we could put that together if that's

[17:59] what you chose.

[18:03] So, Mr. Norman, is the plan to have it

[18:04] paid off by the end of the year

[18:07] >> within a year from today? I hope so.

[18:10] Yes, sir. But if not, if it pleases

[18:12] commission, I'll be back here in a year

[18:14] and I'll check in with you to let you

[18:16] know exactly how we have been doing.

[18:21] » Um, so how much do you owe on on the the

[18:25] residents at this point? Do you have any

[18:27] idea of how much that is?

[18:29] >> Yes, sir. I guess what I'm looking for

[18:31] is I noticed some things on here. I'm

[18:32] just trying to figure out is we had

[18:34] somebody come into us and asked for the

[18:35] same type of thing and they went and got

[18:37] a home equity loan and just took care of

[18:39] their their obligation rather than us

[18:41] having to carry this the county. I just

[18:43] wondered if that's if you explored that

[18:45] option or

[18:47] because we we'd rather have you work

[18:48] with the bank and just have it on the books of the county is what we're

[18:51] talking about.

[18:52] >> Yes, sir. And with a packed house like

[18:54] this and way too many video recordings,

[18:56] it's not fun going public with my

[18:58] information. But due to the fact of all

[18:59] the medical bills over the last year and

[19:01] a half from me being on long-term

[19:02] disability,

[19:03] >> um, a lot of those have come back with

[19:06] late payments and stuff like that, only

[19:07] making 50% on long-term disability

[19:09] because they don't explain that to

[19:10] people. And so, a lot of bills got

[19:12] behind and have been since caught up,

[19:15] but with late fees and stuff like that,

[19:18] they're saying no. And in answer to your

[19:19] first question, my land title and deed

[19:22] are at home in the safe. My property is

[19:24] paid off.

[19:37] There we go.

[19:44] Okay, commissioners, if there's no

[19:45] further discussion,

[19:49] » can we get a motion?

[19:55] Soul any saying that if uh we do

[19:58] anything we've got to update an

[19:59] agreement?

[20:01] >> Yes, we do. We have a current one in

[20:02] place that um

[20:05] that has not been complied with and so

[20:07] it basically has voided that agreement

[20:09] and so to move forward we would need to

[20:11] update that with whatever the new terms

[20:12] are that the commission feels most

[20:14] comfortable with.

[20:16] But we can do that.

[20:24] And this is your current residence, Mr.

[20:26] Norman?

[20:27] >> Yes, sir. Mine, my spouses, and my

[20:29] brother-in-laws.

[20:30] >> Okay.

[20:37] » So, are you employed now? You say you're

[20:39] back to work?

[20:40] >> Yes, sir. Full time. North Cleo.

[20:50] Well, I don't want to put anybody out of

[20:52] a house. Um, I am concerned about the

[20:54] fact that

[20:56] agreement was put in place and it didn't

[20:57] appear to be um complied with and I

[21:00] understand HIPPA and different things,

[21:01] but it's incumbent upon you that you

[21:04] make sure that you if we give you this

[21:05] other year, you if there's even the

[21:08] least bit of a question, you got to get

[21:10] back in and start talking to us. Don't

[21:12] wait the whole year. Don't wait till 12

[21:14] months is up and then you're like, "Oh,

[21:16] I didn't get it taken care of." That

[21:17] can't be the case. Um, it's got to be

[21:20] the second you think there's a problem,

[21:21] you need to get back, meet with our our

[21:24] treasur, let them know, talking with our

[21:27] folks and making sure that's aware of

[21:28] it. But with that, I will make a motion

[21:31] that we'll extend we have you do a

[21:33] follow-up agreement for one year, and we

[21:36] would ask that you work toward getting

[21:37] that paid off within that year.

[21:39] >> One full year.

[21:40] >> Within one year. Yes.

[21:42] >> Okay. I'm just double checking because

[21:43] when we did get over to make the

[21:44] agreement, that's when they tried

[21:46] saying, "Oh, it's like $2,400 a month

[21:48] and oh, by the wording in the court, it

[21:50] was only five months." And even other

[21:53] members that were in the courtroom were

[21:54] under or in the commission were under

[21:56] the impression it was a full year.

[21:57] >> But you need to get in to the county

[21:58] attorney's office this week. Get that

[22:00] taken care of so that it's it's one

[22:01] year. It's not one year from when you

[22:03] show up at the county attorney's office.

[22:04] It needs to be one year from we're going

[22:05] forward here. So, that would be my

[22:07] motion.

[22:09] Uh just one other thing. Um I understand

[22:11] that agreement, but you need to

[22:12] understand that the county works on a

[22:14] calendar year. So at the end of the

[22:16] year, then the treasur's office is going

[22:18] to be viewing it differently than you

[22:19] are. So that's one reason why need to

[22:22] come in probably before the end of the

[22:24] year. You know, make that figured out.

[22:26] But anyway, with that in mind, I'll

[22:28] second your motion.

[22:30] >> Okay. and Dustin. Yeah. Make sure you

[22:32] work with with Sean with these guys,

[22:34] Sean and these guys so they know. If if

[22:36] you're having an issue, please don't

[22:38] wait. Make sure you get in and talk to

[22:40] them.

[22:40] >> No, I will. You and Sean are the two

[22:42] that know.

[22:43] >> Okay, sounds good. So, we have a motion

[22:45] by Commissioner Perry to approve the

[22:48] extended payment for the uh planned

[22:52] property tax parcel 03-137-0032

[22:57] and a second by Commissioner Bingham.

[23:00] There's no further discussion. All in

[23:01] favor say I.

[23:02] >> I.

[23:03] >> Okay. Motion passes.

[23:11] » Thank you, gentlemen.

[23:12] >> Thank you.

[23:13] >> I do feel for you dealing with what

[23:14] you're dealing with.

[23:17] >> Okay. Resolution number 2613

[23:21] adopted revised and updated personal

[23:24] policies and procedures regarding fleet

[23:27] policies and occupational safety and

[23:31] health. And Jennica is going to do this.

[23:33] Who do we

[23:34] >> Annie's going to do this after? Sorry,

[23:36] Annie.

[23:36] >> Oh, no, that's fine. Um what we found

[23:39] over the last year is that um there were

[23:42] some discrepancies between two sections

[23:45] of our policy regarding the failure to

[23:47] report accidents um that outline two

[23:50] different disciplinary processes for the

[23:52] staff. And so the changes made to the

[23:55] policy through this resolution corrects

[23:58] those discrepancies and make sure that

[24:00] we're um following the same process.

[24:07] can entertain a motion.

[24:08] >> With that in mind, I would make a motion

[24:10] that we approve resolution number 26-13,

[24:14] adopting revised and updated personal

[24:16] policies and procedures regarding fleet

[24:18] policies and occupational safety and

[24:21] health as mentioned by Annie Hansen.

[24:24] >> Second it. We have a We have a motion by

[24:27] Commissioner Bingham to approve number

[24:29] 26-13

[24:31] adopting revised and update updated

[24:34] personal policies and procedures

[24:36] regarding fleet policies and

[24:38] occupational safety and health as

[24:40] presented by Annie Hansen, a second by

[24:43] Commissioner uh Perry. If there's no

[24:45] further discussion, all in favor say I.

[24:47] >> I. Motion passes.

[24:52] Okay, before we get into our public

[24:55] comment period, um our our commissioners

[24:58] would like to say a few things. Um and

[25:01] so I will we will start with

[25:03] Commissioner Bingham first and then

[25:06] we'll go to Commissioner Perry and then

[25:08] to myself.

[25:10] >> First off, I appreciate all those that

[25:12] are coming. I know this has been a

[25:13] challenge for everybody involved.

[25:16] Um,

[25:18] and I appreciate the opportunity to hear

[25:20] what you have to say. I know, um, a lot

[25:23] of, uh, stress and anxiety came from our

[25:27] meeting last week. Um, the fact of the

[25:30] matter was, uh, we couldn't conduct

[25:32] business because we couldn't hear each

[25:33] other talk.

[25:35] So, uh, we appreciate the fact that

[25:37] you're here. We appreciate the fact that

[25:39] you're here to learn. We put a lot of

[25:41] information out on the county's website.

[25:44] We've tried to respond to all we can,

[25:46] but um we have listened and read

[25:50] uh I don't know somewhere in the 2500 to

[25:53] 3500 public comment via email, via text.

[25:59] So we've heard comments

[26:02] um and we appreciate the opportunity

[26:04] you're here today to hear what you have

[26:05] to say today. Thank you.

[26:08] >> Thank you, Commissioner B and

[26:09] Commissioner Perry.

[26:10] >> Thank you, Commissioner. Um I just want

[26:12] to reiterate the fact that uh

[26:15] last Monday the meeting the intent was

[26:17] to to try and share information. We um

[26:19] just for timeline we we received this

[26:22] very late notice on what was happening

[26:24] and um we immediately began due

[26:28] diligence trying to find out what our

[26:30] ability as a county was to push back and to try and find out whether this was

[26:35] even a legitimate thing that was being

[26:36] brought to our county. Um, so we met

[26:39] with the land owners out there and they

[26:41] explained that they had signed

[26:42] agreements and they were on they were on

[26:44] in support of this process and we still

[26:47] felt like we needed to put some

[26:49] protections in place if if we were to

[26:50] support the their right to sell their

[26:52] property as private property owners and

[26:55] knowing that it's unzone land in our

[26:56] county. Um, we were fully aware of that

[26:59] and we then consulted with our

[27:01] attorney's office and we hired an

[27:03] outside legal counsel and asked for

[27:05] their guidance and direction in this

[27:06] matter. and which point he told us that

[27:10] based on the first time we knew about

[27:12] this officially was when Maida came and

[27:15] presented it to us just prior to a

[27:17] commission meeting in March. That was

[27:18] our first inkling that this was an

[27:20] official thing coming forward at which

[27:22] point we felt like Maida was going

[27:24] forward with or without us at that point

[27:26] to some level which is where we

[27:27] consulted with attorneys and they said

[27:29] the best thing you can do is to protect

[27:30] your county as best as possible and uh

[27:33] we again wanted to gather more

[27:35] information. We wanted to put

[27:36] protections in place if it if this was

[27:38] to go forward. And so we did just that.

[27:41] We actually um had a meeting on the on

[27:44] the 22nd which we just approved the

[27:45] minutes for which we had I think 16 17

[27:49] people come and give public comment and

[27:50] actually speak about the project and

[27:52] about the land sale. A lot of them were

[27:54] land owners. Some of them were people

[27:56] who lived adjacent to that property that

[27:58] were concerned about things. And we

[27:59] heard from many of those people and

[28:00] appreciated the comments they made and

[28:02] wanted to get more information. So, we

[28:04] again scheduled another meeting to get

[28:06] protections in place. Um, that was going

[28:09] to be scheduled on the 24th of April and

[28:12] the protections weren't there. We didn't

[28:13] feel like we had enough to go forward to

[28:14] the commission meeting that night. It

[28:16] was canceled. I was rescheduled for the

[28:18] Monday following. That Monday, we came

[28:20] in, there was an agreement presented to

[28:22] us, but it wasn't we didn't have a lot

[28:23] of time to go over it. And people who

[28:25] were in attendance that day at that

[28:26] Monday meeting, we didn't get all the

[28:28] answers we needed as a commission that

[28:30] day. And so then we tabled the meeting

[28:32] for another week and I will tell you

[28:34] that there were a lot of people who were

[28:36] not just citizens. We wanted more

[28:38] information from our citizens. We wanted

[28:39] to hear more from them. Gave us a week

[28:41] to gather more information, more data

[28:42] that was as Commissioner Bingham alluded

[28:45] to, but we needed answers as well from

[28:47] the scient from different components to

[28:50] get answers to some of those questions

[28:51] about water, about what we could do as

[28:54] far as air quality, things like that. We

[28:55] needed to have those questions answered.

[28:57] That's what Monday's meeting led us to

[28:59] on the 4th was to hear from those

[29:01] experts um to answer the questions that

[29:04] have been asked. I applaud the um the

[29:07] efforts that have gone into getting

[29:09] correct information out and I appreciate

[29:11] the fact that our staff has worked

[29:13] diligently to answer I think roughly

[29:17] been roughly 86 prominent questions that

[29:19] were asked by our citizens and it's on

[29:22] our web page now and there are answers

[29:24] to those 86 questions as best as we can

[29:26] answer them at this point. Um some of

[29:28] the questions we still have questions

[29:31] about. We want to get those answers. Uh

[29:33] I'll just tell you that we were told

[29:36] indirectly or directly that uh if an

[29:40] action wasn't taken on the fourth um it

[29:43] was highly likely this project was going

[29:45] forward either way and we would have no

[29:47] protections. We would have no guarantees

[29:49] as a county.

[29:51] And so we obviously made the choice. We

[29:53] made in an effort in our belief or my

[29:56] belief was to protect our county's best

[29:58] interest to protect the taxpayers of

[30:00] this county so that they would not be um

[30:04] left without any protections and that

[30:06] this center could be forced down our

[30:08] throat without any protections in place

[30:10] without any guarantees as a county. Um

[30:13] so but I did want that information to

[30:15] come out at that meeting on the 4th.

[30:16] That was our our goal in intent. We

[30:19] tried to get that information out. there

[30:20] was um some of that information didn't

[30:22] come across. People didn't get to hear

[30:24] as many of the answers as we would have

[30:26] liked that night from some of the

[30:27] experts that were there. We've since

[30:29] published that. We published this

[30:31] timeline. It's all on our website at

[30:33] this point and we will continue to

[30:34] publish and be as transparent about

[30:36] everything that we're aware of and give

[30:38] it to the public as quickly and as

[30:39] efficiently as we possibly can. And

[30:42] we're providing that put that out there.

[30:43] I just want to make the public aware of

[30:45] that and we're looking forward to to

[30:47] hearing the public input to this

[30:48] commission meeting which we do at every

[30:50] regularly scheduled commission meeting

[30:52] where we do allow public comment. So

[30:54] that's all I have to say.

[30:56] >> Thank you commissioners. I appreciate

[30:57] that. One of the things that's being

[31:00] said um that I'd just like to clarify is

[31:02] that we are being bought off. That's

[31:04] absolutely untrue. Secondly um we our

[31:08] citizens need to know that we care. I

[31:11] mean, when they when we first met with

[31:13] them, they want us to make a decision

[31:15] right now. And we've tabled this several

[31:18] times so that we could gain information.

[31:21] Um, the three of us have spent an

[31:23] extensive amount of time studying and

[31:26] trying to understand this and put guard

[31:28] rails in, do those things that were will

[31:31] protect our county. We care about our

[31:33] county and uh we have things on our our

[31:37] web page now with the county. please get

[31:39] up and and get in there and and read

[31:41] into that and study about that. Um I've

[31:44] talked to several citizens that have

[31:47] actually emailed me. I've I've visited

[31:49] with them. Um we had Commissioner Prair

[31:52] I believe uh made the comment about the

[31:55] amount of emails that we've got. 3,500

[31:58] um about 268 or so of those are citizens

[32:02] of Boxelder County. um those people that

[32:05] come to disrupt our meeting last week,

[32:08] um those protesters got what they

[32:10] wanted. They came and they disrupted to

[32:13] where we were not able to be able to get

[32:16] the information out to our citizens. And

[32:20] so we want you to know that we do care

[32:22] about you. We care about Boxelder

[32:24] County. That's why we ran and that's why

[32:26] we're in office and we care about our

[32:29] county and going forward. So again, we

[32:32] appreciate you. Um, one of the things

[32:34] that was said in the meeting that I

[32:36] thought was interesting was that we

[32:38] broke the law because we didn't have

[32:40] public uh comment. Public comment is we

[32:43] don't that's we're not breaking the law

[32:45] by not allowing that. We allow that

[32:47] because we care about our citizens and

[32:49] we want to hear what you have to say.

[32:51] And so, uh, those of you that have sent

[32:53] emails and and, uh, we appreciate our

[32:56] staff and our attorney's office for

[32:59] helping to provide answers and helping

[33:01] with the amount of of emails that we've

[33:04] that have come in and filled those. Um,

[33:07] we appreciate them and and and uh, we

[33:10] appreciate the comments that have been

[33:11] given.

[33:14] So, at this time, um, we will have our

[33:17] public comment period. Those wishing to

[33:20] make making make public comment shall uh

[33:23] sign the comment role and be responsible

[33:26] of the following rules in the county

[33:28] commission rules and procedures.

[33:30] Speakers will have one threeinut

[33:32] opportunity to speak regardless of the

[33:34] number of items they wish to address.

[33:36] Speakers shall address their comments to

[33:38] the county commission only. This is a

[33:41] time to be heard. There will not be back

[33:43] and forth dial dialogue with the

[33:46] commissioners. Speakers may file copies

[33:48] of their remarks or supporting

[33:51] information to the county clerk. The

[33:53] county clerk will make the information

[33:55] available to the county commission. And we have got a few here to go over.

[34:01] So we will start with Diana Hardy first.

[34:08] Could you please state your name uh when

[34:11] you come up please?

[34:16] Diana Hardy. Um, the Boxeller Committee

[34:19] for Liberty is disappointed in your

[34:20] decision to support the AI data center

[34:22] in Boxella County, but not surprised,

[34:25] for this is the agenda to destroy our

[34:27] constitutions and the liberties of the

[34:29] people. Representatives past and present

[34:32] have helped to ignore and subvert our US

[34:34] and state constitutions by betraying

[34:36] their oath of office. We are also

[34:38] disappointed that you did not give the

[34:39] people the first amendment right to have

[34:41] a public comment hearing during your

[34:42] meeting at the Barceloa County

[34:44] Fairgrounds. It is the mark of a tyrant

[34:46] who subdued the freedom of speech.

[34:48] Governor Cox is fast-tracking this AI

[34:51] data center against the will of the

[34:52] people. Remember, he wants Utah to be

[34:55] the first smart city state. And these

[34:57] data centers are part of the

[34:58] infrastructure to surveillance, monitor,

[35:01] and control the people along with the

[35:03] implementation of broadband from border

[35:05] to border, smartphones, smart meters,

[35:08] block cameras, etc. His family owned

[35:10] Centriccom and sold it, but his father

[35:12] is still on the board of the new owners.

[35:15] He has a heavily invested interest in

[35:16] this monstrosity of a data center at the

[35:19] people's expense. The AI data center

[35:22] violates our Fourth Amendment by

[35:23] collecting our data, which is an

[35:25] invasion of privacy. These centers use a

[35:28] great amount of our resources. Utah is

[35:30] the second driest state in the country.

[35:32] Water is not abundant. This center will

[35:34] use twice as much power as the whole

[35:36] state of Utah and this will cause

[35:38] utilities to increase because of supply

[35:40] and demand thereby adding heavier

[35:42] burdens on the people. Billionaire Mr.

[35:45] Kevin Olirri from Canada is seeking tax

[35:47] exemptions for the people to subsidize

[35:50] this AI data center development. He is

[35:53] worried that China is so far ahead of

[35:54] the US and he is correct. China is ahead

[35:58] of the US in surveillance, monitoring

[36:00] and controlling the people. Our our

[36:03] representatives are betraying the free

[36:04] market by allowing interlocal agreements

[36:06] with certain businesses which creates an

[36:09] unfair playing field with businesses.

[36:12] The government is picking winners and

[36:13] losers in businesses. Government is not

[36:16] to enter into public private

[36:17] partnerships because it violates article

[36:19] 12 section 20 of the Utah Constitution.

[36:22] The free market provision. Our republic

[36:24] form of government is founded on the

[36:26] free market system that continually is

[36:28] being betrayed. Since our

[36:30] representatives are not listening to the

[36:32] voice of the people, it is up to the

[36:34] people to starve the beast, the AI data

[36:37] centers, by choosing not to use the data

[36:40] collecting devices. The question is,

[36:42] will the people help to choose to shut

[36:44] it down by turning away from the data

[36:46] collecting devices? In the book of

[36:49] Revelations, it speaks about the mark of

[36:50] the beast that we will not be able to

[36:52] buy or sell if we do not have the mark

[36:54] of the beast. Is this the device that we

[36:57] hold in the palm of our hand, our phone?

[37:00] Thank you.

[37:02] >> Okay, very good. Uh, Tanel Tagger Tag

[37:06] Tagger.

[37:15] » Hi, commissioners. I am here to um speak

[37:18] against the Stratos Stata Center,

[37:21] >> Talil Tagert.

[37:24] Um,

[37:25] I know you already know all of these

[37:27] things. I mean, it's it's going to cause

[37:30] immense problem to the whole state, not

[37:32] just to Boxelder County. And I hope

[37:35] you're taking that into consideration.

[37:36] We are in a severe drought in a desert.

[37:39] And I don't know why we're um going to

[37:41] bring something in that's going to use

[37:43] up all our water and heat the area around it. Like, we are going

[37:50] to burn up. We're not going to be able

[37:52] to live. Um, I really hope you will

[37:55] reconsider this. I know you mentioned

[37:57] earlier you don't want to put someone

[37:58] out of a house. That's what you're doing

[38:00] with all of this. So, it's a really big

[38:02] deal and we are mad. We are not going to

[38:05] forget about this.

[38:08] It will come back to haunt you if you

[38:09] just keep going forward with it. Please

[38:11] reconsider the decision. Thank you,

[38:17] » Walter Masterson.

[38:26] Hey, my name is Walter Masterson. I'm

[38:30] here to speak about the data center. I

[38:33] know people are very upset about Kevin

[38:36] Olir's new data center that will go

[38:38] right in the middle of Fox County, Utah.

[38:41] So, I have proposed an alternative

[38:44] location.

[38:46] Utah residents don't really like data

[38:48] centers. You know who loves data

[38:51] centers? Kevin Olirri.

[38:54] You know where Kevin Olir lives? Miami

[38:56] Beach. So, uh, I looked into it and the

[39:01] people of Miami Beach love data centers.

[39:04] Uh, let me, you don't believe me? Let me

[39:07] just list some of the local residents.

[39:09] Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Ken

[39:11] Griffin, Peter Teal, Larry Page, Sergey

[39:14] Brin, Ivanka Trump and her beard, Jared

[39:16] Kushner. These people love data centers.

[39:21] And that's just Miami Beach. I mean, if

[39:23] you go up further on Palm Beach, you got

[39:26] the CEO of Oracle, Larry Ellison, you

[39:28] got Mara Lago, huge fans of data

[39:31] centers. So, I can't, you know, all

[39:35] these people that I just listed keep

[39:38] saying how we need to build more data

[39:40] centers so we can compete with China.

[39:44] So, I cannot think of bigger fans for

[39:47] data centers than these true American

[39:49] patriots that I just listed.

[39:53] Washington DC, San Francisco, Miami,

[39:57] Atlanta, St. Louis, Pittsburgh,

[39:59] Minneapolis,

[40:01] all of those cities I just mentioned are

[40:04] smaller than Kevin Oolir's data center.

[40:09] Kevin Ol's data center project for

[40:11] Utah's called it's called project

[40:13] stratos it will be 64 square miles.

[40:18] Kevin Olirri says oh don't worry we

[40:20] won't be taking power from the grid and

[40:22] he's right because the data center is

[40:25] going to plug into the ruby gas

[40:27] pipeline. It's going to burn methane to

[40:31] meet its projected 9 gawatts of

[40:33] electricity

[40:35] every year. which means it's going to

[40:38] release over 50 metric tons of nitric

[40:40] oxide into Box County every year. The

[40:43] smog from Project Stratos will rival Los

[40:47] Angeles County

[40:49] except Los Angeles is a city of 9

[40:52] million people and Fox County uh 60,000

[40:55] people.

[40:57] So that being said, I am making a

[41:00] proposal to relocate this data center to

[41:04] Miami Beach. Kevin Oly loves data

[41:06] centers. Put it in his backyard.

[41:10] >> Thank you.

[41:15] » Sam Prren,

[41:24] I'm gonna be speaking about uh Stratos.

[41:26] Uh

[41:28] just something real quick. Uh, I feel

[41:31] disappointed in our local government's

[41:32] representation regarding the Stratos

[41:34] project. Um, it's disappointing to see

[41:36] how little consideration was put into

[41:38] something that will have impact for

[41:40] generations. Um, this issue has serious

[41:43] implications on all levels, locally,

[41:45] statewide, nationally, and globally.

[41:47] Environmental and pollution are concerns

[41:49] at the local level. Statewide water is a

[41:52] major concern and it's to accommodate AI

[41:55] that will will surveil the American

[41:57] public and support a war that is

[41:58] currently 58% American disapprove. Um

[42:03] lastly, I'm disappointed that the

[42:04] corporate billionaires were chosen over

[42:06] our county and uh people that live here.

[42:10] So, um I know I just

[42:14] wish we can do what we can.

[42:16] >> Thank you.

[42:24] Julie uh Quim Qualand

[42:28] >> Quinnland. There you go.

[42:56] Mr. Vincent,

[42:58] at the meeting in Tremont,

[43:01] you did not give an accounting of how

[43:02] many messages that you received that

[43:05] were for and how many messages were

[43:07] against the data center. You simply read

[43:10] one letter and said there are people who

[43:13] want this and read a letter that not

[43:16] only uh was

[43:20] compassionate towards you as

[43:22] commissioners like oh you poor people

[43:24] will have to make this decision which is

[43:26] true but to only read one letter and not

[43:29] even give an accounting was really rude.

[43:32] And then to have um Commissioner Bingham

[43:36] yell at the protesters and tell them to

[43:39] grow up. You know how women got the

[43:41] vote? We protested.

[43:45] It was our right and our constitutional

[43:48] right to protest and to treat us like we

[43:51] were less than was your immaturity. I

[43:56] believe that. Anyway, I think it would

[43:59] have been better for you to treat us a

[44:01] little better yourself. You should have

[44:02] backed up and had more meetings with the

[44:06] people were upset because they couldn't

[44:08] share. We found out the Sunday before

[44:12] your second meeting. You kind of snuck

[44:14] your your meeting in with uh comments,

[44:18] you know, before anybody even knew what

[44:19] was going on, unless they lived out

[44:21] there with the land that was being

[44:23] impacted. Now, there's one thing that

[44:25] people aren't talking about,

[44:29] and that is a whole bunch of people,

[44:32] including Sam Alman, Mark Zuckerberg,

[44:35] Jeff Bezos, Michael Bur. Now, if you

[44:37] don't know who Michael Bur is, watch the

[44:40] movie um the big um

[44:45] what's the name of that movie?

[44:46] >> The big short. Thank you. because this

[44:51] and a lot of people are saying this

[44:53] could be a bubble and that we are

[44:56] investing in AI way faster than it may

[45:00] be um used and we've had several in fact

[45:05] this Michael Bur he's the one that saw

[45:08] the home bubble coming on there was the

[45:10] subprime mortgage problem and nobody

[45:12] believed him he said this is a bubble

[45:14] it's going to it's going to burst and he

[45:17] was absolutely right and hurt a lot of

[45:19] people. Now, my husband and I, we lived

[45:21] in Silicon Valley and we lived through

[45:23] the dotcom bust. We were there. Uh he

[45:27] lost his job. He was unemployed for a

[45:29] year and a half. So, if we think we're

[45:31] going to have great jobs come, if this

[45:33] bural this bubble burst, the data

[45:36] centers in Virginia are going to keep

[45:38] running. Ours isn't going to run. We're

[45:40] too far away from everybody. Nobody's

[45:42] going to want to be out in the middle of

[45:43] nowhere. And besides

[45:46] this is generational.

[45:49] This doesn't just affect Boxelder

[45:50] County.

[45:52] This dust from the Great Salt Lake that

[45:56] should be on life support. We should be taking out grass. We should

[46:01] be saving water the way the city of

[46:03] Sandy is doing. And we should be saving

[46:07] that big lake because we get fresh water

[46:09] from it in the lake effect. And we also

[46:13] um that dust that

[46:14] >> Okay, your time is up.

[46:18] >> Thank you.

[46:20] >> Warren McGregor.

[46:31] » Hi, commissioners. My name is Warren and

[46:32] I can't believe I have to say this, but

[46:34] I am a Utah taxpaying citizen. Uh

[46:37] contrary to what Mr. Olirri is trying to

[46:39] spread. Uh, and I don't even know where

[46:42] to begin. For starters, why are we

[46:44] starting a public meeting with a prayer,

[46:46] with a Mormon prayer? Are you or you

[46:50] pray that we could be kind and cordial?

[46:52] There's nothing kind or cordial about

[46:54] what you're doing to us today. I I came

[46:56] straight here from work in Cash Valley

[46:58] and it was 22 degrees above the average

[47:01] for this time of year. And you want to

[47:03] drop 23 Hiroshima bombs worth of heat

[47:06] daily into the state? That will that's a

[47:10] crisis, right? We are already in a

[47:13] drought. You tell us to shorten our

[47:14] showers and not water our lawns, but

[47:17] you're approving one of the largest data centers in the country.

[47:22] Like people are going to die and you

[47:24] need to listen to the people. We do not

[47:27] want this. Nobody here wants this in our

[47:30] state. And if it goes through, you say

[47:33] that you want to add guard rails. You

[47:36] say that uh it was going to go through

[47:37] anyway, but the fact of the matter is if

[47:41] it was going to go through anyway, you

[47:43] should have just voted no. Show the

[47:45] people that we have a voice in local

[47:47] government. Instead, you just rolled

[47:49] over and let it go through. And

[47:53] people of Utah are upset. And I hope you

[47:55] update your resumes because I see your

[47:57] campaign posters every day. None of you

[48:00] are going to be in office ever again.

[48:02] Thank you.

[48:06] Tiffany Larson.

[48:19] » First, I would like to say that I can

[48:21] only imagine the immense pressure you

[48:23] guys have been under. Not only from the

[48:25] community that trusted you to have their

[48:27] best interests at heart and voted you

[48:28] in, but from those in higher positions

[48:30] of power. I have grown up in Utah from

[48:32] the BYU football fields when my dad was

[48:34] a graduate assistant under Lavell

[48:36] Edwards to graduating from Muggen High

[48:38] in 2006 and I now raised my 5-year-old

[48:40] daughter in Eagle Mountain, Utah. When I

[48:42] heard about the passing of the data

[48:44] center, I was immediately enraged. While

[48:46] I'm not a Boxelder County resident, I am

[48:48] a resident of Utah and this reckless

[48:49] decision will not only affect the county

[48:51] you were trusted to steward and protect,

[48:53] it will affect the rest of this great

[48:54] state and eventually the country. Many

[48:56] counties across the nation are listening

[48:58] to their constituents regardless of the

[48:59] immense pressure coming from above them.

[49:02] Harry S. Truman said, "America was not

[49:03] built on fear. America was built on

[49:05] courage and on imagination and an

[49:08] unbeatable determination to do the job

[49:10] at hand." Mark Twain said, "In the

[49:11] beginning of a change, the patriot is a

[49:13] scarce man and brave and hated and

[49:15] scorned. When his cause succeeds, the

[49:17] timid join him for then it costs nothing

[49:19] to be a patriot." And finally, Thomas

[49:21] Jefferson said, "What country can

[49:22] preserve its liberties if its rulers are

[49:24] not warned from time to time that their

[49:26] people preserve the spirit of

[49:27] resistance? Let them take arms." You

[49:30] guys have the opportunity to stand as

[49:31] our forefathers did for the rights and

[49:33] liberties of not only your constituents,

[49:34] but the rest of us that love this

[49:36] beautiful state God bless us with. True

[49:38] courage isn't found in times of ease.

[49:40] True courage shines in the face of great

[49:41] adversity. And like a mirror, it will

[49:43] show you your true character, integrity,

[49:45] leadership, and patriotism.

[49:48] Doing the right thing is never easy,

[49:50] especially on something of this

[49:52] magnitude of this magnitude. But if our

[49:54] forefathers just laid down and took the

[49:56] tax increase because it was the law and

[49:58] the pressure was too much or too scary,

[50:00] we wouldn't be Americans. We wouldn't be

[50:02] Utons and you wouldn't have the

[50:04] opportunity to be the commissioners of

[50:05] the area you claim to love. If you truly

[50:08] love this city and state, prove it and

[50:09] don't roll over so easy. Fight because

[50:12] this is the moment, your moment, because

[50:14] this is what you will remember for. This

[50:16] will be your legacy. Coward or patriot?

[50:23] » Julia Hubard.

[50:33] » Say good evening, but it's not one. Um,

[50:37] I'm confused because I think you guys

[50:38] all think that this is going to be fine.

[50:41] Um, and it's not. We can read project

[50:44] 2025 and we know what this data center

[50:46] is for. It's for them to test out

[50:48] surveillance on us. And it's also for

[50:52] them to ruin the state and then sell it

[50:54] for parts. That's unacceptable.

[50:57] And we're not okay. We're not going to

[50:59] be okay.

[51:01] >> So, if you think that this is going to

[51:03] go through and you're all just going to

[51:04] be just fine, not only are the people of

[51:07] Utah not going to be fine, but you're

[51:09] not either.

[51:16] Fred Hayes.

[51:28] » Hi. Uh Fred Hayes, Bear River Precinct.

[51:32] Um I'm um

[51:35] appreciate the the work that the

[51:38] commission has done and um I would like to say that I don't

[51:44] think that this

[51:46] uh project or others to come. This is

[51:49] just one in a a line of projects

[51:52] starting with the uh the inland port

[51:57] that has been in place been put in place

[52:00] by the Utah legislature. Now, if the

[52:03] eyeire of the people should be directed

[52:05] in the right direction,

[52:08] it would be to investigate the election

[52:10] system. Uh, I happen to have been there

[52:14] at the moment that the Lord

[52:18] handed

[52:21] the data on the Utah voter registration

[52:25] system

[52:26] and it we discovered that there are 373

[52:33] illegitimate phantoms in the Vista

[52:36] system

[52:38] and it's mathematically provable. So,

[52:41] our Utah registration system is hacked.

[52:45] Now, if this if that was a bank,

[52:49] that that registration system would be

[52:51] quarantined and shut down and

[52:52] investigated.

[52:55] And so, the the eye of the people should

[52:58] be directed toward 20 years of elections that have not been

[53:06] witnessed by hand counts and and

[53:09] eyeballs.

[53:11] And

[53:15] as an engineer, I worked up almost 30

[53:18] years as a chemical engineer

[53:20] daily using data interpreting it for

[53:24] conditions of normaly and and and

[53:29] using it to guide control systems and

[53:31] everything. I can see it's simple that

[53:34] the electronic election system is

[53:37] vulnerable

[53:39] and it's vulnerable in software. It's v

[53:41] vulnerable in hardware. It's vulnerable

[53:43] in communications. So now in Utah we

[53:47] have it proven and this is this is from

[53:49] a PhD mathematician in New York who

[53:52] reviewed this data. The Tilla County

[53:54] voter registration database was

[53:56] deliberately falsified falsified by

[53:59] purpose-written software. That is not an

[54:02] inference. It is a mathematical proof.

[54:07] This commission should be taking a stand

[54:11] for handcounted paper ballots and the

[54:13] people of Utah should wake up. You

[54:15] cannot vote with electronics and expect

[54:18] to have legislators

[54:21] preparing legislation that doesn't put

[54:26] vested interests in power. So, how's my

[54:30] time?

[54:32] >> You're three minute or three seconds

[54:33] left.

[54:34] >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

[54:40] Okay.

[54:42] We appreciate your comments. Um,

[54:47] let me do the warrant register.

[55:04] Commissioners, while you do that, I will

[55:05] just put on the record that we no longer

[55:07] needed the close session for the

[55:09] character and professional competence of

[55:11] an individual. So we can remove that

[55:13] from the agenda.

[55:15] >> Thank you.

[56:13] That's the ingredient

[56:19] for the trail.

[56:43] We need

[57:37] So

[57:43] Come on.

[58:04] This is awesome.

[58:42] Ready

[58:50] for a final motion?

[58:54] >> I am.

[58:54] >> I would make a motion to adjurnn.

[58:57] >> Second.

[58:57] >> We have a motion tojourn by Commissioner

[58:59] Perry and a second by Commissioner

[59:01] Bingham. All in favor say I. I.

[59:05] We're

[59:05] >> adjourned.

[59:09] Awesome.

[59:35] Right.

[59:52] Bye.

05-13-2026 Box Elder County Commission meeting

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