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tonight. We appreciate you being here in
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attendance. Um we will start off by
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having our invocation given by
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Commissioner Perry.
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» Our dear Holy Father, we come before
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this time grateful for the blessings of
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bestowed upon us. We're grateful for the
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moisture we received in this past week
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and we're grateful for the opportunity
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we had to hold our county fair and have
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successful fair and a safe time that
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people could enjoy themselves. And at
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this time, Father, we ask thy spirit to
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guide and direct us as we conduct
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business here at Boxler County. That we
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can do so in a manner of pleasing in thy
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eyesight. We pray that thou will bless
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and watch over those who are protecting
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us and serving serving us in our
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community, especially those who are
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fighting fires and protecting us in
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overseas. And we pray that they'll
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please bless and watch over the families
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who lost loved ones recently. that
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they'll know that we
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are concerned for them and want them to
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know that we love them and appreciate
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their their family members and the
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contribution they've provided to Boxar
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County. We pray that th that will guide
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and direct us in all that we should do
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and say and we say this name Jesus
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Christ do it.
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>> Amen.
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>> And we'll have our pledge of allegiance
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by uh Treasurer Sean Thornley. Please
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stand for the pledge of
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>> allegiance
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to the flag of the United States of
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America.
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and to the for it stands one nation
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indivisible with liberty and justice for
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[snorts] all.
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>> Thank you, Commissioner Perry and Sean.
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Thank you so much. Um I need a motion to
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approve the minutes from the July 22nd
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26 meeting as well as the August 12th,
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2026 meeting. I would make a motion that
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we approve the minutes from July 22nd,
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2026 and August 12th of 2026.
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>> Second.
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>> We have a motion by Commissioner Perry
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and a second by Commissioner Bingham to
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approve the minutes from the July
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2022nd,
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2026 meeting and the August 12th, 2026
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meeting. All in favor say I.
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>> I.
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>> Okay. Administrative review reports and
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future agenda items. Do uh any of our
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departments do we have anything?
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>> Commissioner Perry,
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>> not right now. No.
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>> Commissioner Bingham?
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>> No,
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>> I don't have anything as well.
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>> Marla, do you have anything?
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>> Okay, very good. Uh, under former agenda
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items, Commissioner Bingham has uh uh
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some things he would like to bring
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forward.
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>> Um, yes. The planning commission has
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been discussing zoning in the county and
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they have set up um a couple of town
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hall meetings for the citizens of the
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county to be involved in a discussion.
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The dates for that are September 15th at
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the Utah State University building here
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in Brigham City at 700 p.m. and also
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September 26th at the fairgrounds at
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1000 a.m. for those that would like to
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participate.
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[clears throat]
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That is 10 a.m. Correct.
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>> 10 a.m.
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>> Okay. Thank you, Commissioner Bingham.
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We appreciate that. Uh, is Mark here? I
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don't see Mark. Emergency management
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issues. Uh, ARPA or LTCF.
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Charlene,
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I don't there.
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Okay. Um
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Annie, would you like to discuss
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um the
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>> number 16?
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the uh HR administrative
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services director assignment agreement
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26-50.
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» Okay, we'll have Jennica do it.
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>> All right,
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>> we've gone to number 16.
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>> Yeah,
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>> sorry.
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>> I'll just go ahead real quick.
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Okay. So, before you you have an
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agreement for an administrative services
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director assignment. It's agreement
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26-50.
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That specific agreement
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um would allow to have the commission
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appoint Annie Hansen as the
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administrative services director for a
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temporary period not exceeding 18
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months.
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Um that specific department would house
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GIS risk management and the PIO and
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communications for the county. So do you
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have any questions on the agreement that
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you have?
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>> Commissioner, do you have anything?
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>> I would appreciate a motion.
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>> Uh I would make a motion that we approve
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um administrative services director
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assignment agreement number 26-50.
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>> I'll second it. We have a motion by
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Commissioner Bingham to approve number
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2650,
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uh, administrative services director
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assignment and a second by Commissioner
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Perry. All in favor say I.
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>> I. Motion passes. Thank you.
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Okay.
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under public interest peach day's
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presentation
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and Monica Holdway is going to come and
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visit with us for a few minutes.
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» Hi Monica,
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good morning, good afternoon, evening,
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>> whatever it is.
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>> The time goes.
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>> We're having fun here. Thank you.
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for you.
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>> So, this is just my annual Hey, it's
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next week.
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>> We know that, right? [laughter]
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>> The fair and then peach. Fair and then
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peach days. Yep. So, we're really
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excited. Um everything is pretty well
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the same as in other years. So, the only
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thing on the county lawn um is going to
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be the fruit display, of course, and
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then the hospital's first aid booth. Um,
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we are not putting bleachers up on the
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lawn this year. Um, so there won't be
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bleachers there. So, um, the mayor and I
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So, um, we were on Good Things Utah this
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morning. Um, we were on channel 2 last
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week. Um, we will be on Fox 13 on
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Thursday and then they'll be in town on
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Friday morning.
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>> We're so grateful you're in the news.
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>> I'll call you if they need, you know,
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comments. No. Um, we're really excited.
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Um, like I said, our main entertainment
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is Maddie Wilson. She'll be performing
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Saturday night. Um, but yeah, everything
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else I've already given the employees,
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the Park County employee parking passes.
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Um, and like I said, everything else
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will be the same. So, as long as the
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sprinklers don't go off on the county
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lawn, that would be awesome. [laughter]
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>> We'll we'll see if we can't get that. We
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don't have that problem.
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>> Yep.
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>> We will send it out to Cody. So, unless
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you have any questions for me, we just
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really appreciate the support of the
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county staff and you as the
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commissioners. So,
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>> it's going to be a fun time, isn't it?
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>> It is. Yeah.
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>> Busy busy.
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>> Peaches.
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>> Huh.
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>> Even without even without peaches.
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>> Well, there will be still be peaches
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available. They just lobby from here.
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>> Yeah. That today on the news they
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brought that up a little bit and we just
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said and our peach queen handled it
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really great. She said, you know, peach,
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we can have peach days without peaches
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because it's all about community and
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celebrating the harvest and maybe
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celebrating the harvest of not peaches
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this year, but other harvests and
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celebrating the community. So, she
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answered it really well and
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>> good. Well, that's really what it's all
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about, right? The fair and then peach
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days. It's all about bringing
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communities together and
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>> Yep. celebrating relationships,
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celebrating our area. So,
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>> celebrating our heritage. So,
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>> yeah. Okay. Any questions?
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>> Nope.
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>> I think we're good. Thank you so much.
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appreciate it. We look forward to it.
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» Okay. Um number eight, uh proposed
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agricultural protection area and we need
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to do a public hearing and Mara's going
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to talk to us a little bit about that
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one.
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>> This particular a protection area is in
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the Lwood area. Um all of the proper um
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publications notices have been sent and
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mailed and put in the paper and have
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been sent to the A board and the
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planning commission for review. The
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total acres in this one is 1,384.76
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acres and um all the parcels that were
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needing to be reszoned went through that
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at the same time as the act protection
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was in process. So,
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>> okay. Very good. Thank you.
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Commissioners, I need a motion to open a
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public hearing.
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>> I would make a motion we open a public
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hearing.
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>> Second.
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>> We have an a motion to open a public
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hearing by Commissioner uh Perry and a
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second by Commissioner Bingham. All in
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favor?
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>> I.
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>> Public hearing is open. Please keep your
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comments to this agenda item only.
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Diana Hardy Bigham. The Boxella
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Committee of Liberty again opposes
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agricultural protection areas because
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they are unconstitutional.
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Where in the constitution does it give
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the government authority to form
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agricultural protection areas? Also,
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when the government requires a fee from
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the property owner to be in the
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agricultural protection area, this is
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extortion. Paying for protection. It
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would be interesting to conduct a survey
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with all the property owners as well as
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the citizens to see how many have read
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the Utah Constitution. It probably
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wouldn't be many. They do not have the
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knowledge that they already are
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protected according to Article 1,
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Section 1, which states, "All men have
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the inherent and enable right to enjoy
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and defend their lives and liberties to
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acquire, possess, and protect property."
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Article 1 section two all political
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powers inherit in the people and all
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free governments are founded on their
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authority for equal protection and
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benefit and they have the right to all
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to reform their government as a public
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welfare may require. US Constitution
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Amendment 9 states the enumeration in
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the constitution of certain rights shall
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not be construed nor deny or disparage
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others retained by the people. God gave
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us our land and liberty and government's
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duty and responsibility is to preserve
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and protect those rights. Our
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representatives take an oath of office
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to support, obey, and defend both the US
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and state constitutions. Are each of you
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keeping your oath of office? Thomas
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Jefferson stated, "Bind government down
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from mischief by the chains of the
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Constitution. Both the US and state
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constitution should be followed, not
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ignored and subverted." When the Utah
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legislature is passing arbitrary laws
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that violate the constitutions and their
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oath of office, the cities and counties
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are to be the checks and balances to
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notify the Utah state legislature that
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they have usurp power and the cities and
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counties will not comply. Thomas
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Jefferson stated, "Anything contrary to
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the constitution
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are null and void and of no force. The
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agriculture protection areas are null
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and void and of no force because they
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are contrary to both constitutions. A
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well-informed people can always defend
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their property and liberty. A people who
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are not wellinformed sink to desperatism
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and slavery. John Adams stated property
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must be secured or liberty cannot exist.
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Thank you.
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>> Thank you.
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Is there anyone else would like to make
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comment? Okay, I make I would like a
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motion to close public hearing, please.
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>> I'll make a motion that we close the
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public hearing for the agriculture
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protection area.
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>> I'll second it.
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>> We have a motion to close the public
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hearing by Commissioner Perry and a
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second by Commissioner Bingham. All in
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favor say I.
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>> I. Public hearing is now closed.
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Resolution
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number 2626, approving the proposal to
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create an agricultural protection area.
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Um, I'd like to make a motion to approve
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resolution number resolution number
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2626, approving a proposal to create an
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agricultural protection area.
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>> I'll second it.
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>> We have a motion by Commissioner Bingham
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to approve resolution number 26-26,
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approving a proposal to create an
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agricultural
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protection area. A second by
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Commissioner Perry. All in favor say I.
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>> I.
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>> Motion passes. Thank you.
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>> Okay. Uh, predator control contract
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2647.
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Chrissy.
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This is a contract that we enter to
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enter into with the state every single
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year. I think it's pretty standard. Um,
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Glenn has I think has gone through it.
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So, I think it's good to go. It's with
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the wool growers for the state.
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>> Yep.
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>> I've read it.
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>> I need a motion.
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>> I'd make a motion that we approve the
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contract um 26-47 for predator control.
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>> Second.
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>> Have a motion by Commissioner Perry to
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approve predator control contract number
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26-47.
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A second by Commissioner Bingham. All in
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favor say I. I. Motion passes. Thanks,
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Chrissy.
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Ambulance and fire needs of Boxelder
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County in Willard City. Je Jeremy
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Kippton will come and visit with us a
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little bit about that.
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» How are you guys doing?
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>> Doing well. How are you guys
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>> doing? Good. Good to see you, man.
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>> Wow. Well, thanks.
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>> Hey, man.
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>> Thanks for letting us have just a few
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minutes of your time. The mayor uh asked
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me to get us on the agenda and he let me
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know about an hour ago he wasn't going
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to be here in time. [laughter] So,
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you're stuck with
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>> I kind of give you the assignment.
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>> Yeah, exactly.
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>> Isn't that great?
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>> So, you're stuck with Van and I. Um, but
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I think, you know, I think our message
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and I'm happy to
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>> yourself just so that
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>> Oh, I'm sorry. I'm I'm Jeremy Kempton.
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I'm the city manager for Willard. Van's
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our fire chief.
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>> I'm Van Mund and I'm fire chief.
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>> Thanks.
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So, um, like I said, um, our hope maybe
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tonight is maybe to get a little
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direction from you guys and a little bit
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of an idea what you need from us and
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what your hopes are if if there are any
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desire to have some relationships moving
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forward between um, Willard City and Box
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Elder, specifically South Willard. Um, I
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know we've had some discussions
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>> Sure.
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>> over the past year and um, I think we're
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at a point now we've we've purchased a
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couple of ambulances and we're ready to
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>> head down that path and I think we're
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just trying to decide what what you guys
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envision that relationship to look like
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for and not maybe just ambulance and
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fire but police as well. But
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>> um,
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>> well I guess what our next steps would
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be. Van
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>> I mean we are headed down that road for
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world city. I mean, we're we're not
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going to go to do anything else. We are
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going to provide our own ambulance
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service and everything for our city. And
[15:04]
our contract, our fire contract with
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Oxel County, I believe, expired in June
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or July. So,
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>> um I guess we're like Jeremy said, we're
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here to discuss or see where you wanted
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us to head down what we needed to do to
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see where we're going with that and and
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providing ambulance service to South
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Willard.
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>> Okay.
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>> I'm comfortable. I I think that's where
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we'd want to go. I think you having an
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ambulance that much closer to our
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citizens that are in South Willard makes
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sense. you're already providing a great
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service and have been providing us a
[15:39]
great service when it comes to fire um
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with with this fairly as rapid response
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as anybody could expect right now in
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South Willard with where we're at. So,
[15:47]
we would probably want to continue to
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have, you know, negotiations and make
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sure that we're getting working with
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Willard to continue to provide service
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to those folks in South Willard until
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the day comes if they choose to be part
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of Willard at some point. But until
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then, yeah, we I think as a county, as a
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county, we that you're the best option
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to provide that public.
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>> You guys are doing Yeah. And you guys
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are doing a phenomenal job.
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>> On the law enforcement side, we
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obviously have to deal with uh our
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sheriffs, the sheriff's department would
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be the issue with the law enforcement
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part, but I think from fire and EMS
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side, we would we would definitely
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support you guys moving forward with
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that.
[16:21]
>> So, what do we need to do is our next
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step? Do we need to draft up?
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>> Well, you pro probably need to draft up
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an
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>> agreement, but also um
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>> if you haven't started down the process,
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you need to get a license to the state
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for your EMS.
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>> We cannot that until February.
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>> Okay,
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>> that's what the state said because not
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no more than six months before we're to
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take over.
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>> Okay. Our area. So, that's when that
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process will be started and
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ultimately we haven't uh shouldn't have
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issues there.
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>> We we've been working with the state
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pretty close to make sure we're ready to
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go. So once that deadline gets here,
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we're ready to pull the trigger and get
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going.
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>> Yeah. We just want to make sure you're
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prepared that when that does happen that
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you guys are ready to go.
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>> I know Cody and Kevin want to work with
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you. So if you want to reach out to them
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as well, they may be able to do
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something to work with you because we we
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do have a contract in the county to
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provide ammo service.
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>> Right. Okay.
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>> We could probably provide for South
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Alert right now if we needed to. So
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>> Okay.
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>> And I actually chief, I think that's
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something we ought to be looking at.
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>> And what's that? I think that's
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something we ought to be looking at is
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moving forward as quickly as possible.
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So,
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>> I think we need to have a meeting and
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visit.
[17:29]
>> Uh we've been busy with other cities,
[17:31]
but I think we need to sit down and
[17:32]
visit and find out what direction we
[17:34]
want to go on
[17:35]
>> best request with the through the
[17:37]
through Kevin to to pay you for the fire
[17:39]
services you guys have provided this
[17:40]
last year. So, I don't know if you
[17:42]
received that yet or not, but
[17:43]
>> what's that?
[17:44]
>> I don't know if you received that
[17:45]
payment yet or not, but I know Kevin was
[17:46]
going to forward it through our
[17:48]
>> I'll find I I don't know if we have or
[17:49]
not. We may have. I can't. Usually
[17:51]
they'll ask where we want it allocated.
[17:53]
I I don't think I've seen it quite yet,
[17:54]
but
[17:55]
>> Yeah. Very good.
[17:57]
>> Who would you like us to reach out to to
[17:58]
set up a meeting?
[18:01]
>> I think if we can get with Corey Oaks
[18:02]
and Kevin Lloyd and and
[18:05]
>> set a meeting, have them reach out to us
[18:06]
and set up a meeting and we can all sit
[18:08]
down and talk.
[18:08]
>> Great.
[18:09]
>> So, find out what our next steps are and
[18:11]
what we do to go forward.
[18:12]
>> Okay. We'll do that. We'll we'll get
[18:14]
we'll reach out to them, get something
[18:15]
set up and get moving sooner than later.
[18:17]
>> Sounds awesome. Sooner the better.
[18:19]
really appreciate you guys.
[18:20]
>> If you can have if you want to have your
[18:21]
attorney start drafting some language
[18:23]
that we can have our attorney's office
[18:24]
kind of match for what you're proposing
[18:27]
moving forward ambulance service wise
[18:29]
along with maybe the look at the fire
[18:31]
contract to update it.
[18:32]
>> Okay.
[18:32]
>> Maybe kind of combine the two to say
[18:34]
this is what what would be so we could
[18:36]
get a contract in place moving forward.
[18:38]
>> Okay. We'll get started on that. I think
[18:39]
she's already started working on that.
[18:40]
So, but I'll I'll nudge it along.
[18:42]
>> Okay. Very good. Okay.
[18:44]
>> Thank you, gentlemen. Thanks for your
[18:45]
time.
[18:51]
Okay. Um,
[18:54]
number C, request of purchase of surplus
[18:57]
prop uh, parcel number 08-065-000012,
[19:03]
uh, compliant parcel that was not sold
[19:06]
at tax sale in 2026. Ryan Nelson, how
[19:09]
are you?
[19:09]
>> Good. How are you guys doing?
[19:10]
>> Good.
[19:13]
>> So, exactly that. I'm seeking the
[19:15]
commission's approval to buy that parcel
[19:17]
that was not sold in 2026 and it is
[19:20]
compliant which is very few and far
[19:23]
between out there.
[19:26]
» Okay, this where do you want to have
[19:28]
Scott come up and explain? Scott, can
[19:30]
you talk for a minute, please?
[19:32]
>> So, we're trying to figure out exactly
[19:33]
what what we can do and how what our
[19:34]
options are and that's why we're asking
[19:36]
Scott to come talk to us. So,
[19:40]
» how's it going, Scott?
[19:41]
>> Good.
[19:44]
you want to explain to us what what we
[19:46]
need to do as a commission on this or
[19:47]
what our options are?
[19:48]
>> So, [clears throat] as far as when when
[19:50]
there is county surplus property, uh the
[19:54]
county has a a disposal process that was
[19:58]
adopted um 25 years ago, amended 15
[20:02]
years ago. Um anyway, it basically
[20:07]
allows the county commission to one
[20:09]
decide if they want to surplus that
[20:11]
particular piece of property. um that uh
[20:15]
you know it may be something the county
[20:17]
wants to hold on to. They may find some
[20:19]
use for it, whether that be for fire or
[20:21]
sheriff or roads or who knows what. Uh
[20:24]
if it's not a piece that they want to
[20:26]
hold on to, um then it likely makes
[20:29]
sense to either get back, you know, on
[20:32]
the tax books, something like that. Uh
[20:35]
so this policy outlines how that is to
[20:39]
take place. So step one is to decide if
[20:42]
it, you know, if if it makes sense to
[20:44]
surplus it or not. And then uh if if
[20:48]
decided that surplusing makes sense,
[20:50]
then the county commission needs to
[20:52]
decide how uh h how to value that
[20:56]
property. Um so it sets forth five
[21:01]
different ways to do that. uh sealed
[21:03]
competitive bid, a public auction,
[21:06]
evaluation by a qualified and
[21:08]
disinterested appraiser, um the Boxler
[21:11]
County Assessor's Office, or other
[21:13]
professional publications or valuation
[21:15]
services. So, so those are the those are
[21:18]
the five different ways that um a value
[21:21]
could be applied to that property in
[21:23]
order to um determine this the sales
[21:26]
price for it. Once that is decided, then
[21:30]
you would direct um me to take it
[21:33]
through the process. We run it through
[21:34]
the planning commission. Planning
[21:36]
commission reviews it per this policy.
[21:38]
Couple things they look at as far as um
[21:41]
the general plan and things like that.
[21:43]
And then their recommendation comes back
[21:45]
to you and we're supposed to go through
[21:48]
a noticing period and then um you would
[21:51]
take action from there as far as the
[21:54]
final sale of the property. So step one
[21:57]
would be determining if you want to
[21:59]
surplus it and how to value it.
[22:03]
>> Okay.
[22:04]
>> Commissioners,
[22:07]
>> is there discussion?
[22:08]
>> Is there a best way to figure out how to
[22:09]
value it? I don't
[22:11]
>> how that
[22:12]
>> So So he may have done some research. Uh
[22:15]
I've spoken I believe it was your wife
[22:17]
that stopped by. I spoke with her for a
[22:19]
little bit and kind of gave her the
[22:20]
rundown as far as what the different
[22:22]
options are that you that that are have
[22:25]
been used historically. Um,
[22:30]
I think the two the two main ones that
[22:32]
I've seen often times when we surplus a
[22:35]
piece of property, it's it's kind of
[22:36]
these smaller slivers or triangles,
[22:39]
awkward pieces of property that that
[22:42]
nothing really can be done with them
[22:44]
except for uh, you know, usually it's an
[22:46]
adjoining neighbor that is
[22:49]
>> okay there's this 2,000 square foot
[22:52]
piece adjacent to my property and in
[22:55]
that case uh, the property may only be
[22:58]
worth a couple hundred dollars and so it
[23:00]
doesn't make sense to have an appraisal
[23:02]
done where the appraisal is going to
[23:03]
actually cost more than the property and
[23:05]
so you have used the assessor's office
[23:07]
to value that in in those scenarios.
[23:10]
There have been other scenarios where uh
[23:12]
you know an appraisal has been requested
[23:15]
and that appraisal has been the
[23:17]
responsibility of the interested party
[23:19]
uh and sometimes they go through with
[23:22]
it. Sometimes they say, uh, that's going
[23:24]
to in the end, you know, it might be
[23:27]
$6,000 for the parcel and, you know,
[23:29]
a,000 or two for the appraisal and that
[23:32]
the appraisal price just pushes it to
[23:34]
where it no longer makes sense for them
[23:36]
>> and they kind of abandon the, you know,
[23:38]
the quest to acquire that piece of land.
[23:40]
So, this particular case, it sounds like
[23:42]
you've done a little bit of homework.
[23:43]
I'll let you.
[23:45]
>> Um, yeah. So, when it went up for tax
[23:47]
sale, it was going up for, I believe,
[23:49]
like $475
[23:51]
and nobody bid on it, so it just went to
[23:53]
Fox County. Uh, one of the options is to
[23:56]
pay the price that the county assessor's
[23:58]
office has it at. They currently have it
[24:00]
assessed at $1,86.
[24:04]
We're willing to pay that price and it
[24:07]
fits under one of those ones. And that
[24:10]
was the evaluation in 25 which is the
[24:13]
latest that I could find on public
[24:15]
record. Um if there's a newer valuation
[24:17]
from the assessor's office, we'd also be
[24:19]
willing to pay that price.
[24:22]
>> And currently the property is just
[24:24]
there's nothing on the property. It's
[24:25]
just
[24:26]
>> there's nothing on the property. I have
[24:27]
a map of it. It's all the way out in
[24:29]
Park Valley and it's just empty right in
[24:33]
the middle off the road. To give you a
[24:36]
reference, it's uh going west of
[24:39]
Snowville on Highway 30 before you get
[24:42]
to the split where it would go north to
[24:44]
the Clear Creek area or south to the
[24:46]
Park Valley. So, it's just east of that
[24:48]
split. Okay. Um and it's an 8.8 acre
[24:52]
parcel that uh straddles the Highway 30
[24:56]
there.
[25:01]
» Um I don't know. Can we can we take it
[25:05]
um I would suggest that we take it under
[25:07]
adisement and maybe make a decision
[25:09]
between now and the next commission
[25:10]
meeting and then if we do that then we
[25:12]
would go through the abandonment process
[25:13]
and make sure that m Mr. Nelson is aware
[25:15]
of it and keep them informed and that
[25:18]
way at least because in fairness until I saw it on the agenda I wasn't
[25:23]
aware that we had this piece of property
[25:24]
out there. So I need to find out what it's doing out there and what uh if
[25:28]
any reason why we want it. It's would
[25:30]
have been ideal if somebody had just
[25:31]
bought it during the tax sale and I get
[25:33]
that but and that's why I'm not sure
[25:34]
closed bids going to help us out a lot.
[25:36]
I don't know if anybody buy during tax
[25:38]
sale that it's going to go for a whole
[25:39]
lot more than that anyway. So, but I
[25:42]
think we ought to explore the issue and
[25:43]
find out what this property looks like
[25:45]
and talk to a few of our the folks out
[25:47]
there to find out if there's a purpose
[25:48]
of any kind that we'd ever I I don't
[25:50]
know why we'd want to keep it as a
[25:51]
county personally right now um off the
[25:54]
top of my head, but I I would like to
[25:56]
have at least a couple weeks to figure
[25:58]
that out and next commission meeting
[25:59]
make the decision
[26:01]
what we want to do. So,
[26:04]
>> yeah, I think that's a good suggestion.
[26:07]
>> So, you want a motion to that? Yes, sir.
[26:09]
I would make a motion that we uh
[26:12]
that we table the item till next meeting
[26:15]
to make a before we make a decision on
[26:17]
it so we can find out more about the
[26:19]
property to determine if if and what we
[26:21]
need to do with it if we want to go down
[26:24]
that road of abandonment which can be
[26:26]
purchased.
[26:27]
>> Second. We have a motion by Commissioner
[26:30]
Perry to take the center adisement, give
[26:33]
us some opportunity to review and see um
[26:37]
this look at this property, make a
[26:38]
decision if the county needs it or not.
[26:41]
Uh this is parcel 08-065-0012
[26:45]
and a second by Commissioner Bingham.
[26:48]
Any other
[26:50]
comments? All in favor?
[26:52]
>> I.
[26:53]
>> Motion passes. Thank you. We'll do some
[26:55]
review and get back with you.
[26:56]
>> Thank you.
[27:00]
Okay. Appointment to the Metro Lease
[27:02]
Services District and Commissioners.
[27:05]
>> Uh yes. Um I it' be my motion that we
[27:08]
appoint Michael A. Allen from Brigham
[27:10]
City to uh serve on the Mineral East
[27:13]
Committee, the Mineral East board. It
[27:14]
would be a four-year assignment.
[27:17]
>> Is that correct, Glenn? This is a
[27:18]
four-year one, right? Okay. It'd be a
[27:20]
four-year assignment. And he would be
[27:21]
taking the Brigham Karen area would be
[27:23]
the area of the Mineral East board.
[27:24]
That's the area he represents.
[27:30]
Is that a motion?
[27:31]
>> That was a motion. Yes.
[27:32]
>> Second.
[27:33]
>> We have a motion by Commissioner Perry
[27:35]
to appoint Michael A. Allen. Is that
[27:38]
correct?
[27:38]
>> Yes.
[27:39]
>> To uh the Mineral Lease Special Service
[27:42]
District and a second by Commissioner
[27:44]
Bingham. All in favor say I.
[27:46]
>> I.
[27:47]
>> Motion passes. Thank you.
[27:52]
Okay. under community development
[27:56]
ordinance um number 666 home occupations
[28:01]
and can we please change that number
[28:04]
and
[28:04]
>> we will have Scott Lions come and talk
[28:06]
to us about that. Can we change it to
[28:07]
like 667 or something like that?
[28:09]
[laughter]
[28:14]
» We were the uh the unlucky ones.
[28:18]
So, this proposed ordinance is a text
[28:22]
amendment to section 5-1-290
[28:27]
of the uh county's land use and
[28:30]
development code. This section of code
[28:33]
regulates home occupations. Um, so the
[28:37]
applicant here requested currently under
[28:41]
home occupations uh there is a list of
[28:45]
prohibited uses. Um, and this particular
[28:48]
one is body piercing, body art, or
[28:51]
tattoo parlor. And they are requesting
[28:53]
that that be removed from the list of
[28:55]
home of from the list of prohibited
[28:58]
uses. Um, so in the the definitions um
[29:05]
come from state code and state code uh
[29:08]
for a variety of reasons. uh that gets
[29:13]
pretty gets pretty technical as far as
[29:15]
health department regulations and
[29:17]
different things like that associated
[29:18]
with this, but it includes um like
[29:22]
permanent cosmetics. So, when you get
[29:24]
your eyebrows microbladed or have your
[29:27]
eyeliner tattooed, different things like
[29:30]
that, that falls under this same
[29:33]
section, uh same land use, if you will.
[29:37]
Uh so the request is to remove that
[29:40]
entirely. Um it's viewed by the
[29:44]
applicant and I should say as well by
[29:46]
the planning commission as no different
[29:48]
than if somebody wants to have a chair
[29:51]
in their basement and a home salon or
[29:52]
anything like that. So uh the planning
[29:56]
commission held their public hearing.
[29:57]
There was no opposition to it. There
[29:59]
were um two attendees that spoke in
[30:02]
favor of it and the planning commission
[30:05]
uh forwarded a recommendation of
[30:06]
approval and that recommendation um is
[30:11]
included in ordinance number 666.
[30:19]
» Okay.
[30:20]
Well, since we can't change the number,
[30:22]
I I will make a motion that we approve
[30:23]
ordinance 666.
[30:26]
>> Second. We have a motion to approve
[30:29]
ordinance 666 by Commissioner
[30:33]
Perry and a second by Commissioner
[30:34]
Bingham. There's no further discussion.
[30:36]
All in favor say I.
[30:38]
>> I.
[30:39]
>> Thanks.
[30:40]
>> Thank you.
[30:42]
>> Okay.
[30:45]
Number 12, fairgrounds ratification of
[30:47]
agreement 26-49
[30:51]
road to services. And Glenn's going to
[30:53]
visit with us that with that a little
[30:55]
bit.
[30:56]
>> Yes. So, we had the rodeo last week. Um,
[30:59]
there's some difficulties and
[31:01]
complications in getting the uh the
[31:05]
rodeo had been taken over by a new rodeo
[31:07]
company. We had a little bit of problems
[31:09]
getting them to sign it. Um, we did get
[31:11]
it signed before the rodeo. Um, and we
[31:15]
didn't have a county commission meeting
[31:16]
in between when we got it signed in the
[31:18]
rodeo. So, we're here to ratify that
[31:21]
decision.
[31:22]
>> Yep. I'd make a motion that we ratify
[31:24]
the agreement 2649 for rodeo services as
[31:27]
discussed.
[31:28]
>> Second. We
[31:29]
>> have a motion by Commissioner Perry to
[31:31]
approve ratification of agreement number
[31:34]
26-49 for the rodeo services as
[31:37]
presented by Glenn Thirsten. Second by
[31:39]
Commissioner Bingham. There's no further
[31:41]
discussion. All in favor say I.
[31:43]
>> I.
[31:44]
>> Hey, thank you Glenn. Appreciate it.
[31:48]
Quarter's office
[31:51]
public land survey system grant number
[31:54]
2648 for the monument replacement and
[31:57]
restoration
[31:59]
uh committee. Chad Montgomery is going
[32:01]
to visit with us.
[32:02]
>> Chad Montgomery, Boxelder County
[32:03]
Recorder. Um this is our standard uh
[32:07]
state contract grant for the section
[32:10]
corners that we have an opportunity to
[32:13]
apply for every year. we were
[32:15]
successful. Um, and the contract is for
[32:18]
$24,836.80
[32:22]
um that we can get from the the state
[32:23]
for this uh to use through uh to
[32:29]
uh upgrade and uh perpetuate the the
[32:33]
section corners in the county.
[32:37]
>> Very good. Need a motion.
[32:39]
I'll make a motion that we approve or we
[32:42]
ratify the agreement number 26. Nope,
[32:44]
sorry. We approve FY27 public land
[32:48]
survey system grant agreement 26-48 from
[32:51]
the Monument Replacement and Restoration
[32:53]
Committee.
[32:54]
>> I'll second it. We have a motion by
[32:56]
Commissioner Bingham to approve the
[32:59]
public land survey system grant
[33:00]
agreement number 26-48
[33:03]
for the monument replacement restoration
[33:06]
and second by Commissioner Perry.
[33:09]
There's no further discussion. All in
[33:10]
favor say I.
[33:11]
>> I.
[33:12]
>> Thanks Chad. Appreciate you.
[33:15]
>> Okay. Number 14, public hearing.
[33:19]
uh the winter 2026 seasonal road closure
[33:24]
public hearing and Darren's going to
[33:25]
come up and visit with us for a few
[33:27]
minutes and then we'll open a public
[33:28]
hearing.
[33:35]
» Good evening, gentlemen. Darren
[33:37]
McFarland with Boxiller County Roads. Um
[33:40]
this is our annual announcement of road
[33:43]
closures that the uh state government
[33:46]
asked us to start doing a few years
[33:47]
back.
[33:49]
Doesn't change anything the seasonal
[33:50]
road closures they stay the same dates
[33:53]
and all. So
[33:56]
>> okay how many are we talking about?
[34:00]
» I think there are depending on weather
[34:03]
there can be seven. There's two of them,
[34:05]
three of them that weather depending we
[34:08]
don't close sometimes,
[34:11]
>> but those are out west, way out west.
[34:14]
Cotton Thomas Pass, if it doesn't snow a
[34:16]
lot, we don't close it.
[34:18]
And a couple others, Lynn Pass. So
[34:22]
ones in town that I guess if you want to
[34:24]
call it in town are five short divide,
[34:27]
long divide, Rocky, Dougway, Willard
[34:29]
Peak Road, and Derry Road.
[34:35]
And those are November.
[34:36]
>> They're all They're all weather pending
[34:38]
except for Rocky Dougway. And that's
[34:41]
July
[34:43]
it's either July 15th to November 1 or
[34:45]
July 1, November 15th.
[34:47]
>> And everything else is weather pending.
[34:49]
>> Everything else is weather. Yep.
[34:51]
>> Okay.
[34:52]
>> Open and closing depends depends on
[34:55]
weather.
[34:57]
>> Very good. Okay.
[35:00]
>> Okay. Motion to open the public hearing.
[35:04]
I'll make a motion we open the public
[35:06]
hearing to discuss 2026 seasonal road
[35:09]
closure.
[35:09]
>> I'll second it.
[35:10]
>> We have a motion to open the public
[35:11]
hearing for the 2026 seasonal road
[35:14]
closure by Commissioner Bingham and a
[35:17]
second by Commissioner Perry. All in
[35:18]
favor?
[35:20]
>> Public hearing is now open. Please keep
[35:21]
your comments to this
[35:24]
uh
[35:26]
issue only. We'll go from there.
[35:45]
Vernon Warner. Um, I'm a proper property
[35:49]
owner up in the Devil Gate Valley. um
[35:52]
recipient of um property that was
[35:55]
inherited
[35:57]
um that I received from my
[35:59]
great-grandfather, grandfather, and it's
[36:02]
just been in the family for years and years. Um the family had over
[36:06]
six square miles of land up there in the
[36:08]
Devil's Gate Valley. We were the ones
[36:10]
that put the roads in originally for
[36:13]
sheep and cattle grazing. So, um it's
[36:18]
been a problem ever since. We used to
[36:20]
have an old cable up there with the
[36:22]
white rocks that said no trespassing,
[36:24]
but then it was declared a public road
[36:27]
sometime I don't know in the early
[36:30]
2000s. Um there [clears throat] was a
[36:33]
originally a gate and a cable up there
[36:35]
established. Uh there was a new one put
[36:38]
up there in the year 2007 to close the
[36:41]
Devil Gate from [clears throat] the
[36:43]
public because they were doing such so
[36:46]
much property damage running all over
[36:48]
the place going through the meadows. Uh
[36:51]
so [clears throat] it is our intent that
[36:54]
this is a road closure. There should be
[36:56]
a road closure. Otherwise, it's
[36:58]
restricted access by the 52-inch
[37:00]
vehicles, and that's not [clears throat]
[37:02]
not fair to us as property owners that
[37:04]
don't have a 52-in vehicle to go through
[37:08]
there. But we should have access to our
[37:09]
road to kind of see what's damaged. So,
[37:11]
if you're closing the road, then call it
[37:13]
a closure, not a limited access. Close
[37:15]
it completely. So, it's my testimony and
[37:20]
my my request that we look at that
[37:23]
seriously that uh one, you're
[37:25]
restricting me as a land owner to be
[37:27]
able to go up there and check on my
[37:28]
property after the 15th of November.
[37:32]
That's generally speaking when they
[37:34]
close it. Uh but it's not a road
[37:36]
closure. It's a restricted access. So,
[37:38]
anybody with a a small vehicle can go up
[37:41]
there and do whatever they want. and we
[37:43]
the land owners don't have keys and
[37:44]
can't go up there and check on things,
[37:46]
make sure that our property is not being
[37:48]
destroyed. Uh and then it's open back in
[37:50]
the spring, [clears throat]
[37:52]
but we don't have a chance to go up
[37:54]
there and really notify the uh county
[37:57]
roads that, hey, the road's still not
[37:59]
accessible. really better hold off and
[38:01]
keep it from, you know, the church has
[38:04]
gone up there and done a lot of work
[38:06]
this year and I'm sure they don't want
[38:08]
that road destroyed at their expense
[38:10]
that they did uh to make it so it's
[38:13]
easier to get in the church camp. So, um
[38:16]
there's a couple of things. If if you're
[38:18]
going to allow the uh restricted access
[38:20]
instead of a road closure, then I think
[38:22]
that that you as a commissioner uh
[38:26]
should agree that the property owners
[38:27]
that have property up there be able to
[38:30]
be given a key that we don't have to go
[38:32]
and fight for a key. We can have the
[38:34]
access to a key so that we can go and
[38:36]
make sure that people aren't destroying
[38:38]
that are going in there on a restricted
[38:40]
access. So, that's one of the requests
[38:43]
that we as land owners up there have
[38:45]
agreed that we're asking for.
[38:48]
[clears throat]
[38:49]
Uh, and then, uh, the the gate there at
[38:53]
Devil's Gate. Originally, there was a
[38:55]
sign there that says it was a road
[38:57]
closure, uh, but that was taken down.
[39:00]
Uh, and so we'd like this to be
[39:03]
considered that we either go with what
[39:06]
was established for years up there, go
[39:09]
back to that or the land owners have
[39:12]
keys so we can go in and check on our
[39:14]
properties, make sure that people aren't
[39:16]
vandalizing, tearing things up. So, uh,
[39:19]
that's one of the things that I request
[39:21]
in this public hearing and, uh, let it
[39:23]
be known. Thank you. Okay.
[39:25]
>> Thank you so much. Appreciate it.
[39:40]
Todd Thompson, Manowway Valley
[39:41]
Recreation Camps. I was going to ask the
[39:44]
commission for clarification on the
[39:45]
closure at the Manowway Road. Is that a
[39:48]
seasonal closure or is that closure
[39:50]
subject to discretion of the road
[39:53]
department?
[39:56]
It
[39:56]
>> says seasonal on the agenda.
[39:58]
>> Well, I understood it that we were just
[40:00]
talking about it would be seasonal based
[40:01]
on the weather. Is that So, Steve, I was
[40:02]
going to ask you a couple questions.
[40:03]
Correct me
[40:04]
>> if I'm wrong. Um, it's a seasonal
[40:06]
closure, but depending on the season,
[40:08]
the uh roads department decides when
[40:10]
that's going to be closed. Is that
[40:11]
right?
[40:13]
>> Because we may not have snow one year,
[40:15]
we may have.
[40:15]
>> So, it could be it could it could stay
[40:17]
open if we didn't get any snow. though
[40:19]
and it' be a seasonal based on
[40:22]
precipitation and what it's going to do
[40:24]
to the road and create what what I think
[40:26]
it's going to create for the roads
[40:27]
department to maintain
[40:28]
>> the ability to to
[40:31]
safely pass passage is is your
[40:34]
>> that that's my understanding. Yes,
[40:35]
>> correct.
[40:37]
I'd also like to um maybe suggest the
[40:40]
commission would entertain the idea of
[40:42]
an intermediate gate placed between the
[40:44]
Manowway current Manowway gate now and
[40:47]
the Willard Basin area. I understand and
[40:51]
fully understand that you're protecting
[40:53]
that road until the moisture or snow
[40:56]
pack melts and the road is safely
[40:58]
passable. However, the upper three miles
[41:00]
of that road takes much much longer to
[41:03]
melt off, become passable than the lower
[41:05]
three miles.
[41:07]
So, I'm asking the commission to
[41:08]
entertain the idea of putting an
[41:09]
intermediate gate at the White Rock
[41:11]
Willard Peak Road Split where landowners
[41:15]
could once it becomes passable in the
[41:17]
lower three miles access their property
[41:19]
safely start winter renovations,
[41:22]
closures, and spring openings earlier
[41:25]
than allowing and waiting for the upper
[41:28]
portion of that road to be melted off.
[41:30]
It's a very distinct time difference
[41:33]
there for accessibility to the private
[41:34]
properties.
[41:36]
So, I'm asking the commission if they
[41:37]
would entertain that idea and accept
[41:39]
that as a possibility to place that
[41:43]
intermediate gate at that strategic
[41:45]
place.
[41:46]
>> And you're saying put the intermediate
[41:47]
gate rather than going down into Devil's
[41:50]
uh Devil's Gate area would be going
[41:52]
continuing up into Willard Peak.
[41:53]
Correct.
[41:54]
>> I'm proposing that the gate be put on
[41:56]
the Willard Peak Road to inhibit passage
[41:58]
to the upper portion of the Willard Peak
[42:00]
Road, but yet allow passage to the the
[42:02]
Devil's Gate land owners. Yeah.
[42:05]
If you travel that road and you look at
[42:07]
it, it it's an it's an logical spot in
[42:11]
that it's landlocked on each side. It
[42:13]
would the the terrain creates a natural
[42:16]
barrier for passage around the gate. So,
[42:19]
I think it would be easily monitored and
[42:21]
I think it would be able to be uh
[42:24]
enforced the closure rather than having
[42:26]
vehicles go around. It's really a
[42:30]
natural spot for the for the train to
[42:31]
put the gate there, allowing then once
[42:34]
again restricting that upper passage for
[42:36]
safety purposes, which I understand, but
[42:38]
yet allowing private owners to access
[42:40]
the lower portions that are melded off
[42:42]
and safely passable.
[42:44]
>> Okay. So, when you say there is a
[42:46]
natural place to put it, I haven't seen
[42:48]
a place anywhere where somebody can't go
[42:49]
over with a motorbike or side by side.
[42:52]
Everywhere I go anyway, people just said
[42:55]
a white rock, didn't you, Todd? That's
[42:57]
correct.
[42:57]
>> Yeah.
[42:58]
There is there's there's I mean if
[42:59]
you up there where he's talking about if
[43:01]
we go just past where the white rock is
[43:03]
and you put a gate and I don't know what
[43:04]
we'd have I that's Darren but
[43:07]
>> depending what Forest Service where our roadway can do this is but if you
[43:11]
put one there they have two choices. One
[43:13]
they can go off the cliff and down the
[43:14]
side of the mountain.
[43:15]
>> Yeah. Straight down.
[43:16]
>> They have to go up into they they would
[43:17]
have to go into scrub oak.
[43:19]
>> Yeah. And it's and that road up the
[43:21]
[clears throat] hillsides. So if you put
[43:22]
the gate in a certain spot it would be
[43:24]
very difficult. But I'm just curious if
[43:26]
we put a gate in, could we put it in
[43:28]
where it would be far enough off the
[43:30]
road so that when the season is open, it
[43:32]
would be accessible to go back and forth
[43:34]
>> so you don't have to move the road every
[43:35]
year or remove the gate. Is it going to
[43:38]
be able to go back far enough that we're
[43:39]
not going to have
[43:40]
>> people hitting it
[43:42]
>> going up as when they go by it? That's
[43:44]
that would be my concern
[43:46]
>> and I'd want to consult with with our
[43:48]
roads department to find out. And I
[43:50]
don't know is I'm assuming we're now in
[43:52]
National Forest Service area at that
[43:54]
point on that roadway and and I think
[43:56]
we'd have to get the National Forest
[43:57]
Service to give us permission. Is that
[43:59]
correct? And Darren's nodding his head
[44:00]
correctly. So
[44:02]
>> I'm I'm happy to exp I would be happy to
[44:03]
explore that. I think we have that issue
[44:05]
come up every year,
[44:06]
>> but I think we can ask we'll ask our
[44:08]
roads department to go back to the
[44:10]
Forest Service and ask them if they
[44:12]
would be amanable.
[44:13]
>> Again, it's going to be their call
[44:14]
because it's their land whether they're
[44:16]
going to let us do this or not. But I
[44:18]
something something worth asking.
[44:19]
>> And I agree, Commissioner Prey. I
[44:20]
believe it is National Forest because
[44:22]
they if it's my understanding that they
[44:24]
have control of the gate on the on the
[44:27]
um Devil's Gate road.
[44:29]
>> Yeah. Right.
[44:29]
>> So they would as well have to have buy
[44:31]
in and have some um authorization to
[44:35]
control that road.
[44:36]
>> That's we can explore.
[44:37]
>> I'm I'm willing to ask our our roads
[44:39]
department to go and meet with them and ask and get see if we can we get
[44:43]
permission. And I mean I
[44:43]
>> and I'm I'm certainly willing to make
[44:45]
myself accessible to the excuse me if
[44:48]
you'd like to ride up there and visit
[44:49]
evaluate the site together. I welcome
[44:52]
you and I extend that invitation to the
[44:54]
commissioners. Let's let's get organized
[44:55]
and visit the site.
[44:56]
>> I can I can see where I put a I could
[44:57]
put a gate there. I put a gate but yeah
[45:00]
>> but it is landlocked. Yeah.
[45:02]
>> Or the natural barriers on each side
[45:04]
obviously commission.
[45:05]
>> You might get somebody creating you can
[45:07]
get anywhere you want if you're
[45:08]
determined to get there.
[45:09]
>> Yes. But those
[45:10]
>> they're not going to do it without
[45:11]
damaging person or vehicle. I guarantee
[45:13]
you.
[45:14]
>> I I think deterrence is is the issue
[45:16]
here.
[45:17]
>> Just don't plant a Russian olive tree on
[45:18]
this side so that they can
[45:19]
>> and and um I echo the I echo the request
[45:24]
of Mr. Warner that if in fact we're
[45:26]
going to go ahead and lock the gate at
[45:28]
Manowway that we as land owners have
[45:30]
access to a key as well to continue to
[45:32]
when the road is safely passable to
[45:34]
continue works at our property there. So
[45:36]
thank you for your time. Okay.
[45:37]
>> Thank you.
[45:43]
Do we need to make a decision tonight on
[45:44]
this?
[45:45]
>> Okay.
[45:47]
>> Can we There's no further discussion. I
[45:51]
need a motion to close public hearing.
[45:53]
>> I'll make a motion to close public
[45:54]
hearing on road season road closures.
[45:56]
>> Second.
[45:57]
>> Have a motion by Commissioner Perry to
[45:59]
close the public hearing and a second by
[46:01]
Commissioner Breen. All in favor say I.
[46:03]
>> I.
[46:04]
>> Public hearing is closed.
[46:06]
>> Okay. And so we'll be able to come back
[46:08]
at a future commission and make a
[46:10]
decision on this. We won't need to make
[46:11]
a decision today. We can maybe I'll give
[46:13]
Darren direction to go back and let's
[46:15]
meet with the Forest Service and see if
[46:16]
we can get some of these questions
[46:17]
answered before we make that final
[46:18]
determination.
[46:21]
>> So, is that
[46:27]
>> is there an ordinance?
[46:28]
>> Yeah, there yeah, there's an ordinance.
[46:29]
>> So, yeah, I' I'd make a motion that we
[46:31]
table the ordinance to a future meeting
[46:33]
so that we can find out from the
[46:35]
forester. Before we do that, I'd like to
[46:37]
find out from the Forest Service if this
[46:39]
is an option. So,
[46:41]
>> I'm not sure you need to table it. You
[46:42]
should pass the ordinance. You can come
[46:43]
back in later a minute if you need to.
[46:45]
I'd hate to have the ordinance not go
[46:46]
into place.
[46:47]
>> Okay.
[46:47]
>> When we need it.
[46:48]
>> You got to come back.
[46:49]
>> I don't know if you have any thoughts on
[46:50]
that, Glenn, but
[46:52]
>> I think you could do either way, but I I
[46:54]
think it would be ill advised to build
[46:59]
up the entire ordinance based on one of
[47:01]
the roads having an issue. There are
[47:03]
seven that need to be roller you could
[47:05]
pass it.
[47:06]
>> So if we pass it with the with the
[47:07]
knowledge that we're going to come back
[47:09]
to look at possibly amending it in the
[47:10]
next Okay.
[47:13]
>> I I can accept that. Yeah. So okay, I
[47:16]
would I would make a motion then that we
[47:18]
pass seasonal road closure ordinance 658
[47:20]
with the knowledge that we plan on
[47:22]
coming back to possibly make an
[47:23]
amendment for that one road.
[47:25]
>> Second. We have a motion by Commissioner
[47:27]
Perry to approve road closure ordinance
[47:29]
number 658
[47:32]
uh for winter uh with the agreement that
[47:35]
we will come back possibly to discuss um
[47:39]
to some changes to the ordinance and a
[47:41]
second by Commissioner Bingham. All in
[47:43]
favor?
[47:44]
>> I.
[47:44]
>> Motion passes. Thank you.
[47:49]
Okay,
[47:51]
we're out our public comment period of
[47:53]
uh our meeting. Those who wishing to
[47:56]
make public comment shall sign the
[47:58]
comment role and will be responsible for
[48:00]
the following rules outlined in the
[48:02]
county commission rules and procedures.
[48:04]
Speakers will have one threeminut
[48:06]
opportunity to speak regardless of
[48:08]
number of items they wish to address.
[48:10]
Speakers shall address or rem address their comments to the county
[48:14]
commission only. This is a time to be
[48:16]
heard. There will not be a back and
[48:17]
forth dialogue with the commissioners.
[48:19]
Speakers may file copies of their
[48:21]
remarks or supporting information with
[48:24]
the county clerk. The county clerk will
[48:26]
make the information available to the
[48:28]
county commission. And we have one
[48:31]
tonight and it's Deanna Hardy.
[48:44]
Diana Hardy Bigham. The Boxella
[48:47]
Committee of Liberty opposes the zoning
[48:49]
of all Boxeller County because it's not
[48:52]
constitutionally principled. The only
[48:54]
time zoning is required is when a land
[48:56]
owner is doing something immoral or
[48:58]
dangerous or both that will harm another
[49:00]
property owner. When Melanie Melanie
[49:03]
Wilding of the Planning Commission came
[49:05]
before you stating that the planning
[49:06]
commission's hands are tied because all
[49:09]
the land in Boxeller County is not
[49:11]
zoned. Why should the planning
[49:13]
commission have arbitrary power over
[49:15]
property owners in telling them what
[49:16]
they can and cannot do with their
[49:18]
property? The planning commission is
[49:20]
just another quasi government program
[49:22]
operated by appointed board members
[49:25]
which goes against our republic form of
[49:26]
government. Elected representatives have
[49:29]
jurisdiction over zoning and not an
[49:31]
appointed quasi government board.
[49:34]
Central planning is a Marxist ideology
[49:36]
and not constitutionally principled. The
[49:39]
US Constitution article 4 section 4
[49:41]
states the United States shall guarantee
[49:43]
to every state in the this union a
[49:45]
republic republican form of government
[49:48]
and shall protect each of them against
[49:50]
invasion. Are you protecting our
[49:52]
government from the invasion of Marxism?
[49:55]
How about socialism, communism? It is an
[49:58]
invasion to adopt central planning and
[50:00]
zoning all landowners property. The only
[50:03]
exceptions are listed above. James
[50:05]
Madison comments on property. This term
[50:08]
in particular application means that
[50:10]
dominion which one man claims and
[50:12]
exercises over the external things of
[50:14]
the world in exclusion of every other
[50:17]
individual. Central planning is based on
[50:20]
community planning and destroying
[50:22]
individuals planning. Government is
[50:25]
instituted to protect property of every
[50:27]
sort as well that which lies in the
[50:29]
various rights of individuals as the as
[50:32]
that which the term particularly
[50:33]
expresses. This being the end of
[50:35]
government that alone is opinions, their
[50:38]
religion, their persons and their
[50:40]
faculties, name more which indirectly
[50:42]
violates their property in their actual
[50:45]
possessions. In the labor that acquires
[50:47]
their dailies assistance, and in the
[50:49]
hallowed remnant of time which ought to
[50:51]
relieve their fatigues and soo their
[50:52]
cares, the influence or inference will
[50:55]
have been anticipated that such
[50:57]
government is not a pattern for the
[50:59]
United States. If the United States
[51:01]
means to obtain or deserve full praise
[51:04]
due to wise and just governments, they
[51:06]
will equally respect the rights of
[51:08]
property and the property in rights.
[51:11]
They will rival the government that most
[51:13]
sacredly guards the former and repealing
[51:16]
its example in violating the latter will
[51:18]
make themselves a pattern to that and
[51:20]
all other governments. And it's really
[51:22]
sad you just violate other people's
[51:23]
property rights just today with your
[51:25]
decision. Thank you.
[51:30]
» Okay.
[51:33]
A warrant register is done.
[51:36]
Personal actions volunteer action forms.
[51:40]
Jennica, how are you?
[51:47]
» We don't have a close session, do we,
[51:48]
Steve? Okay.
[52:25]
>> Okay. Very good. We don't have a closed
[52:27]
session, so I need a motion to close the
[52:28]
meeting.
[52:29]
>> I'll make a motion we adjourn.
[52:31]
>> Second. Have a motion adjourned by
[52:33]
Commissioner Perry or Commissioner
[52:34]
Bingham and a second by Commissioner
[52:36]
Perry. All in favor say I.
[52:38]
>> I.
[52:38]
>> Very good. We're journ till the next
[52:40]
session. Thank you so much for being
[52:41]
here with us.
[52:45]
Okay.