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Everyone at it being 7:30 on Tuesday,
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September 15, 2026, let's begin our town
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council meeting. Would ask everyone who
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can to please stand for the pledge of
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allegiance.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
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United States of America and to the
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republic for which it stands, one nation
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under God, indivisible, with liberty and
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justice for all. ask you to please
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remain standing for our moment of
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silence for all those serving in our
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military at home and abroad and for
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their families.
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» Thank you. I'd ask the clerk to call the
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role, please.
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» Councelor Berica
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>> here.
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>> Councelor Dudi
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>> here. Councelor Flareity
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>> here.
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>> Councelor Meglio
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>> here.
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>> Council Morren
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>> here.
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>> Councelor Quilty
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>> here.
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>> Council Reynolds
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>> here.
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>> Councilor Ringis
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>> here.
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>> Council Sterling
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>> here.
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>> Thank you.
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Um
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we have a lengthy uh agenda this
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evening. Prior to um beginning on that,
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I would ask if there are any
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announcements from council members.
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Chair will um recognize Council
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Reynolds.
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>> Thank you, Mr. President. Uh my
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announcement
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um is somewhat a form of a request as
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well, but it concerns uh a topic that
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will be covered uh in the next agenda
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item uh that is uh part of uh an issue
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in my district. Um and I feel that it's
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necessary that uh comment on the state
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of the current town of Brainreeowned
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drainage easement that runs from the
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White Road vicinity located on the
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northern end of Hawthon Road. Uh and
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then that runs southerntherly direction
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across Home Park Avenue continuing in a
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southerntherly direction behind the
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homes along Hawthon Road through the
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parcel of land formerly known as the St.
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Thomas Moore Church property and where
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it continued to cross. It crosses over
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Old Elm Street between two private
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residential homes and emptying into a
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culvert under the Elm Street extension
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and then into the Manatquit River as it
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was designed. Uh this culvert is
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probably
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70 years old. This drainage ement is
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about 70 years old. It was designed uh
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for much less volume that what has been
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added to it through the years due to
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residential development. Um, bottom line
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is is that I'd like to ask the uh the
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DPW committee to hold a meeting so that
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we can get an assessment from the town
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of Brainree uh as to how we can uh
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address this sement where it has caused
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uh damage to homes uh last summer and
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years prior and has caused decades of
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flooding uh in that area. And with that
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property being converted, uh my concern
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is is that the issue um would not uh be
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in the best interests of private
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homeowners and their properties.
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Thank you, Mr. President.
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>> Thank you, Councelor RS. Are there any
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other announcements? Councelor Qualty.
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>> Thank you, Mr. President. Um there will
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be a meeting to discuss uh resurrecting
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the friends of the senior center on
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Thursday, September 24th from 3:30 to
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4:30. That'll be at the Logan auditorium
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at the the public library and all are
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welcome. Thank you.
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>> Thank you councelor.
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There any other council or vice
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president mag.
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>> Thank you council president Morren. The
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East Branchry Community Action Coalition
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is starting up our meetings again is now
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that fall is here. We took uh August
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off. Um the meeting is to uh Thursday
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night, September 17th at 6:30 p.m. at
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the Brainree Yacht Club on Gordon Road.
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Mayor Joyce will be joining us and it's
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a great opportunity to hear what's
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happening in East Brainree, all of
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Brainree, and to ask questions. So
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hopefully everyone will join us on
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Thursday at 6:30. Thank you.
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» Okay. If there if no one else has any
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announcements, I have two. Um Friday, no
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uh September 18th at 10:00 in this
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auditorium, there'll be a ceremony
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um in recognition of National Prisoner
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of War Missing and Action Recognition
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Day
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uh in Cahill Auditorium. And also there
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is a planned ceremony prior to the
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Briner High School football game at 7
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p.m. at at the alumni field um to
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recognize and uh commemorate the our our
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prison prisoner of wars and missing in
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action. Also um the Brantry Mid-Autumn
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Festival also known as the August Moon
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Festival that was scheduled for this
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weekend was rained out. It is to be
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rescheduled to the um 27th of September
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um same location and I believe it's um
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in the afternoon I believe the hours are
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1 to 4. Um so that will be that has been
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rescheduled and will be held on the
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27th.
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Okay. We now uh will move to the
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approval of minutes uh for the meeting
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of uh June 16, 2026. Is there a motion
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to approve the minutes?
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>> Motion to approve the minutes.
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>> Second.
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>> Motion's been made and seconded. All
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those in favor?
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>> I.
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>> It's unanimous.
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We'll now move to the citizens concerns
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um uh portion of the meeting. Uh this is
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uh Mr. George Clemens or his attorney
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has uh asked for uh time to present. Uh
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he is here. Um this is treated uh under
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rule 35 of the council as as a public
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comment period. It is not um for the
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council to engage in questioning or or
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inquiry at this time since there is
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nothing before the council. I I do not I
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would caution the council from from uh
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any reaction or or interaction
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>> closer to your mic
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>> um because it could it could result in
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an uh open meeting violation. So we will
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uh listen to the presentation as public
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comment. Mr. Clemens.
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» Thank you President Warren. Um,
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[clears throat] thank you councilors for
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allowing me to uh attend the meeting
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this evening. Uh, as you all know,
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George Clemens, developer, Hawthorne
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Preserve. Um,
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I think you've all been copied in the
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emails. I think we all know what's going
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on at the Hawthorne Preserve project.
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Um, we've been working [clears throat]
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for the better part of a year with the
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uh with the current DPW director, the
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mayor's office, and Mike, if you could
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lay those out so that the council can
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see them. We've had an extreme
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challenge, and I'm not sure exactly why
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that is. Um, there is an easement that
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carries about 12 acres of surface runoff
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from a neighbor from neighboring
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properties through our property. Um,
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we
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relocated a portion of the underground
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easement. And so you're a little more
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familiar with it,
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there was a taking in uh 1940, which
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came off of Thorndikeke Street, picks up
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all of the rainwater off of uh this
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neighborhood, Park Street, giant area.
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Originally, that was that was the first
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easement. 1982, they the town took
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another easement. This is an underground
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pipe that feeds into my property.
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There's a narrow channel um
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that they dump rain water into. 96 they
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took a series of easements so that they
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could bring it out under the old Elm
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Street [snorts] and they did that.
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This was never really, you know, there's
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been historic flooding over in that
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area. So, when we first evaluated this
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property for development, we listened to
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neighbors concerns. We went ahead, we
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looked at this underground section of
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piping. It was fully clogged with
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debris. And when I say debris, we're
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talking large boulders. We're talking
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trees. Um,
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believe it or not, a shopping cart. So
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we found that if we can clean the sement
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that would become a better situation. We
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went ahead and we did that. We relocated
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the seizement as part of the vetted plan
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through the planning department. But
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what we found is in any substantial rain
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event,
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this this is uh this is a hardpiped
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easement and this is an open easement
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where this water comes through in a
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36-in pipe. This isn't a small pipe.
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This is a substantial pipe running 12
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acres of uh surface roadway through our
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property. So under heavy rain
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conditions, this this comes out with
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such velocity that it overtakes this
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entire pro this entire property. So we
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identified that we had a meeting with
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DPW. We asked for a meeting. We said,
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"Look, what we need to do is this leg of
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the easement, which is open to the year,
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has has not been cleaned in some time.
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We don't know. We requested records.
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Nobody has records of the last time this
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easement was cleaned. [snorts]
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We've had nothing uh no forwardthinking
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dialogue. As a matter of fact, we've had
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nothing but refusal to clean the
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seizement, and I'm baffled by it. Um,
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I've worked in the town of Brainree for
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20 years. We're making a $40 million
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capital investment in this community of
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which the town in the very near future
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will be the beneficiary of
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7 to $800,000 in annual tax revenue.
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We're not asking for a lot. It's not an ask for us. This is a legal
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obligation to maintain its easement.
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We've been unable to communicate
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effectively. We're curious as to why the
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town will not clean this easement. We've
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went so far to offer to do that work and
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we were told, "Nope, we'll handle it."
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We have no definitive timelines.
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Um and recently,
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maybe two weeks ago, the town went
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behind um behind what is a Exxon station
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where this ultimately goes out to the
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Manatqua River and they excavated and
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cleaned that channel of the easement,
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which makes zero sense to me. I'm not an
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engineer and you don't need to be an
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engineer, but the source of contamin
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contaminants that clog this line are
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directly through this congested area
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here. So, the sensible approach is if
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you're going to clean an easement, start
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where start here, dig this out, provide
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directional flow for water. The water
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does not make it through this open
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channel. It floods out the property.
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No surprise because, you know, and I'm
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gonna leave these here. If anybody wants
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to look at them, I'll get them in the
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morning. [snorts] But I'm frustrated. A
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$40 million capital investment in our
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community and I can't get a DPW director
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to clean an easement. That's
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unreasonable. It's beyond unreasonable.
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[snorts] Um, it's been a year. I have
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closings where the town would start
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receiving revenue, tax revenue, real
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revenue from this project within the
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next 30 days. And what do I get told by
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the by our by our DPW director? There
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will be no occupancy permits. That's
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unbelievable to me. You should all be
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shocked by that.
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>> I'm more you know
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>> you've got I just want to give you
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you've got about 30 seconds left of your
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time.
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>> We'll leave it at that.
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>> Okay.
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>> You know, I'm beyond frustrated. I met
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with Peter Machuk on Monday. I see this
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project going sideways. I'm not going to
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take the blame for it. This is
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outrageous. Thank you for your time.
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>> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Clemens.
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Turning to the council agenda. Council
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councelor Barerica's demolition delay
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order uh 26026.
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ordinate demolition delay ordinance
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amendment or take up any action relative
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there too. This is a public hearing. Uh
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we will be continuing it to October
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20th, but we need to open the hearing.
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Is there a motion to open the public
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hearing?
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>> Motion to open the public hearing.
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>> Motion's been made and seconded. All
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those in favor?
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>> I
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>> Okay. Um this was tabled in the
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committee of ordinance on ordinances
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rules as they work through the proposed
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amendments. At this time we will
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continue the hearing again till October
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20th. Is there a motion to continue the
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public hearing for order 26026
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to October 20th 2026 at 7:30 p.m.
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>> So moved.
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>> Second.
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>> Motion's been made and seconded. All
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those in favor? I
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>> It's unanimous. Thank you.
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Moving to order 26049
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DMAC Enterprises LLC. Reszone portion of
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17011721
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Washington Street or take up any action
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relative there too. This is also a
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public hearing. Is there a motion to p
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to or open the public hearing for order
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2649?
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>> So moved.
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>> Second.
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>> Motion's been made and seconded. All
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those in favor? I
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>> I will now refer to councelor Ringus,
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chair of the committee on ordinances and
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rules for a recommendation on order
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26049.
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>> Uh the committee ordinance and rules met
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on September 10th um regarding um this
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um request. We were taken on a
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historical narrative by attorney
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Johnson. Um but we did send this to the
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full council with a unanimous airable
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recommendation.
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>> Thank you, Council Ringus. Um Mr.
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Johnson uh is here to give us an
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overview on on this. Um prior to his
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overview, I wish to state for the
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record. Uh this property is is near my
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home, but I am not um an abuter to it on
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by the determination of the planning
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department and um by measurement by the
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planning director. So I am allowed to
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participate despite me being kind of
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close. I'm about a house away from being
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in a butter. So, um, Mr. Johnson, would
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you like to give an overview about, um,
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a area of the town, which is, you know,
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probably the best area of the of the
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town in my humble opinion. Uh, go ahead.
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The floor is yours.
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>> Take a vote on that. [clears throat]
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>> For the record, uh, my name is Carl
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Johnson. I represent Petitioner DMAC
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Enterprises, Inc., and Diane Pompio
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Malti, manager, uh, relating to this
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council order 2609.
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[snorts] Um, to reclassify to resident
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to reclassify a residence B portion of a
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split lot, which is lots in more than
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one district as defined in our bylaw.
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both general
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and to uh general business.
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Excuse me. The property is lies in both
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general business and residents uh B at
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7701 through 1721 Washington Street. Uh
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[snorts] a split lot by the way is
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controlled by um 135306.
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It does have a provision where a split
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lot can be within 150 ft could be
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extended for the most for the least um
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for the business use into residents. But
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this site as we'll go over in a minute
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as you can see on here is probably 400
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ft from Washington Street to the rear
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portion and doesn't qualify. Therefore,
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we have to uh reszone the property.
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I've been asked tonight not to be
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repetitive. um from what I've done in
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the past uh two meetings, one before the
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planning board and one before the rules
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and ordinance committee which I very
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much enjoyed by the way in the
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questions. Um so I will go right into
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the petition plan which is before you
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and again
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this site is currently 2.1 uh acres.
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It's surrounded by Washington uh
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Washington Street here. And this is the
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narrowest part of of the property. It's
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a little over approximately 200 ft uh
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212. And it runs along Massachusetts
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Avenue. Massachusetts Avenue is a paper
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street
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or it's an unconstructed um private way.
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This is Old Colony Avenue in the back.
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That was um [snorts]
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again the same thing. It's a private
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unconstructed way or a paper street. And
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this is North Fork Avenue. North Fork
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Avenue as we have u found is all within
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the the property line of this Northfor
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Avenue. I'll show in a minute is 33 feet
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wide. It was a passageway on a plan that
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was shown in 1876
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um when they were doing loting plans for
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the Brainree Highlands. Rentry
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Highlands. Most of it were not completed
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until um the beginning of the 20th
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century. Uh my house was one of the one
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of the first is in a subdivision was
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1937.
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Um this property again is this is Washington Street. This is the
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line right now that is general business
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district.
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um
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general business district. So, it's only
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17,050
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square feet where the rest of the
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property is uh much larger at 74,446
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ft. What we are proposing to do by this
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is to extend this for the entire length
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of the property was has been recommended
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to us by um planning and and others.
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There are a lot of uh different uh
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restrictions upon the property as you'll
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see right here.
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Um this parking on the property is in
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the residential zone. One a piece of the
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building, this back portion of this
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building is in the residential zone and
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well as uh the site circulation and so
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forth.
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The other things that are incorrupted
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was a 20 foot wide sewer easement that
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goes across the property which you can't
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build upon although you can park upon.
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These lines are grade lines or contour
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lines show a steep drop off
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approximately from 136 at this point to
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120 and it goes to 120 and it comes out
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all the way to the back to roughly 100.
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This is a wetlands line that goes around
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the property. These are actual wetlands.
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The other portion of it on the site um
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is uh there are two buffer zones.
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There's a 50 foot and a 100 foot buffer
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zone. So that there are things you can
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build in a buffer zone uh uh but you
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can't in in the wetlands line, but
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that's all part of uh conservation. So
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it is restricted uh quite a bit.
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again uh Washington Street is um is a
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state highway which is a 60-oot layout
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and that actually has moved a little bit
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widened over the years. So where the
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zone line is shown has hasn't increased
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uh very much. the other private the
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other streets, Old Colony Avenue again
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and Northfor Avenue um are private ways.
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We'll show in a minute. One of the most
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important things that that we determined
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why Northfork Avenue uh was owned by the
[21:20]
uh the Pompio family and now um of DMAC
[21:25]
um Enterprises LLC is that in 1971 I'm
[21:30]
going to show you a plan is probably the
[21:32]
most important um other than the origin
[21:34]
of Northfor Avenue and that was because
[21:37]
the town took that was an existing
[21:40]
street uh Beiels Road but it was always
[21:43]
unconstructed. In 1971, there was a um
[21:47]
layout and taking for Beiel's road. And
[21:49]
when it was finished, they assessed um
[21:53]
Henry Pompio betterments because now he
[21:56]
bounded along a pro um a public way and
[22:01]
that also gives him access to the lower
[22:03]
part of his property. Um at that time
[22:14]
as I said be as I said that the the
[22:17]
property is restricted. What this uh
[22:19]
reszone would do would create a single
[22:21]
parcel which 89,600
[22:24]
square ft uh and will provide a unified
[22:27]
neighborhood business parcel and of 2.45
[22:31]
acres. by a business parcel. This is
[22:33]
again been in existence since 1950. It's
[22:37]
developed uh slowly over time. It has
[22:40]
had a number of businesses whether it be
[22:42]
pharmacies, hairdressers,
[22:45]
um dentists at one time. There's fast
[22:47]
food restaurant, there's a convenient m
[22:49]
on there now. It's had a whole host of
[22:51]
uses that served the Massachusetts
[22:54]
Avenue area in particular. Um but it has
[22:58]
generally the uh the highlands area and
[23:01]
the reason that
[23:05]
it came about.
[23:11]
This is this is the uh 1876 plan. And
[23:15]
this is the site and this was um a
[23:19]
railroad station called Brainree Depot
[23:22]
that was uh it was first built in 1866
[23:26]
and ran up until um
[23:29]
1958. This is railroad tracks are split
[23:32]
and there were different um accesses to
[23:35]
the um rail lines at that time and at
[23:38]
one time there were street cars that
[23:40]
went in the front of the property.
[23:43]
It went from South Brainree to Brockton.
[23:46]
This is a blow up of that same uh area
[23:49]
that's shown there. And what I pointed
[23:51]
out is this says passageway 33 feet or
[23:54]
two rods wide. And you can see that this
[23:57]
is within this property. This property
[24:00]
in 1911 became registered land in an
[24:03]
incorporated um
[24:07]
the same area. And there are plans that
[24:09]
show in 1911 that the engineer who was
[24:14]
putting out these loting plans or house
[24:16]
plans to be sold uh in in Boston mostly
[24:21]
uh they uh called it Northfor Avenue for
[24:26]
because it was in Northfor County
[24:27]
probably. But that became the word
[24:30]
Norfork Avenue. So we had to prove
[24:33]
essentially that the owner owned all of
[24:36]
the fee in Northfor Avenue and it's
[24:38]
reflected in their um some of the the
[24:41]
documents that I gave you. the um
[24:44]
certificate um and the deed into the um
[24:48]
Pompio family in 1950 uh referenced the
[24:51]
fact that uh the soil and the fee in
[24:56]
this the soil and the fee in Northfor
[24:58]
Avenue um in Old Colony Avenue stayed
[25:02]
with the um property and was not deemed
[25:06]
to be a road so they owned it. Mass
[25:08]
Avenue was different. That that was not
[25:10]
included.
[25:17]
This is a zoning map that you may have
[25:19]
had in the booklet if you looked at it.
[25:20]
And this is um shows Beiel's Road when
[25:25]
it was a paper street and that was
[25:27]
Norfork when it was a paper street. And
[25:29]
you can see that this only occupied a
[25:31]
small pieshaped portion of the premises.
[25:38]
Probably the most important uh document
[25:41]
approved that was shown in in the
[25:44]
booklet is five and this was a taking by
[25:47]
the town of Brainree
[25:49]
uh for the layout of that portion of
[25:51]
Beiel's road and it indicates on the
[25:55]
side of this and I want to read it. It
[25:57]
indicates lots 8 and through 13
[26:00]
assessor's plan and it references the
[26:03]
Henry A. Pompio's uh property and it
[26:06]
says 276 ft. So they assess 276 ft of
[26:12]
betterments out to here which indicates
[26:15]
that um his property bounded along by uh
[26:20]
Beiel's road which is um
[26:24]
what it indicates on the older plans. So
[26:27]
essentially without going in any further
[26:30]
um I think that we proved that it in
[26:33]
fact um does belong. The fee uh or the
[26:37]
ownership of all the land area is within
[26:40]
the Pompio family.
[26:48]
» Are you all set, Mr. Johnson? Or
[26:51]
>> are you all are you? I I just want to go
[26:53]
for the public benefits that one of the
[26:55]
things we're supposed to uh prove is in
[26:58]
the public benefits allow them to meet
[27:00]
dimensional density requirements on the
[27:02]
enlarged parcel. Improve traffic
[27:04]
circulation removes restrictions without
[27:07]
encroaching into the residential areas
[27:09]
of the buildings and accessory parking.
[27:12]
enhancing the tax base as a unified
[27:14]
business zone and eliminating a split
[27:16]
lot taxes which would be residential and
[27:19]
uh business at a commercial rate. It
[27:22]
increases site parking, reorganizes
[27:25]
uh for more safe traffic circulation and
[27:28]
a better utilization of the buildings
[27:30]
within the neighborhood center. Um
[27:32]
that's probably the briefest
[27:33]
presentation I've had to make and they
[27:35]
cut a lot of things out, but I'm sure
[27:37]
it's appreciated. I would uh really say
[27:40]
that this has been taken a long time, a
[27:43]
couple of years because of what we had
[27:44]
to prove without uh any uh evidence and
[27:48]
it's been um you know it's been a while
[27:51]
but I would thank everybody from the
[27:52]
planning board to the rules and
[27:54]
ordinance committee meeting and the full
[27:56]
council and ask for your support. Thank
[27:58]
you.
[27:58]
>> Thank you. Are there any questions from
[28:00]
the council for Mr. Johnson?
[28:03]
>> Okay, seeing none, is there anyone from
[28:04]
the mayor's office who wishes to speak
[28:06]
on this matter?
[28:15]
» [clears throat]
[28:15]
>> Good evening, council. Uh, Peter Matic,
[28:17]
planning director. I believe um the
[28:18]
council was supplied with the pling
[28:20]
board recommendations, but uh the
[28:22]
planning office and uh through obvious
[28:24]
the mayor's office, we have worked with
[28:26]
attorney Johnson um and we fully support
[28:29]
uh from a staff standpoint and from a
[28:31]
planning board standpoint support the
[28:32]
zoning change. Thank you.
[28:34]
>> Thank you, Mr. Magic. Is there anyone
[28:37]
from the general public who would wish
[28:39]
to speak on this matter?
[28:44]
Seeing none, is there a motion to close
[28:46]
the public hearing?
[28:48]
>> Motion to close the public hearing.
[28:49]
>> Second for discussion. I just had one
[28:51]
comment.
[28:52]
>> Sure. Council Bar.
[28:53]
>> Yeah. Thank you. Um I just wanted to to
[28:56]
say thank you, Mr. Johnson, and to the
[28:58]
planning department. In our master plan,
[29:01]
which was completed a few years ago, one
[29:03]
of the goals was to work to eliminate
[29:06]
split lots and do a better job unifying
[29:10]
our zoning. So, when we get the
[29:11]
opportunity to do that, I know this is
[29:13]
the second one that's come up in the
[29:15]
last couple of years. Um, I think that
[29:17]
is a good chance to start cleaning up
[29:19]
some of our um outdated zoning. So, I
[29:23]
will be fully supporting this tonight
[29:24]
and thank you to the ONR committee for
[29:27]
their their work on this as well.
[29:29]
>> Thank you.
[29:30]
Council Bara. Um,
[29:34]
I would just echo Councelor Barerica's
[29:37]
um comments and thank Attorney Johnson
[29:40]
for his extensive work on this. um as
[29:44]
someone representing the district and um
[29:47]
living in close proximity, makes no
[29:50]
sense for it to have been split in the
[29:53]
first place. And in his extensive
[29:56]
research, he could really not find a
[29:59]
reason why it was split. Um and uh it it is clearly I think in the best
[30:06]
interest of the town um to uh unite this
[30:10]
under a a commercial um designation.
[30:14]
So uh with the closing of the public
[30:16]
hearing, is there a motion?
[30:20]
» Motion to approve the reszone as
[30:22]
submitted as order 26049.
[30:25]
>> Second.
[30:26]
>> Motion's been made and seconded. All
[30:28]
those in favor?
[30:29]
>> I. It's unanimous. Thank you again for
[30:32]
the work of the committee on ordinances
[30:34]
and rules. Thank you, Mr. Johnson. Thank
[30:37]
you, Mr. Matchic. We'll now move to 26
[30:42]
050.
[30:44]
Third hearing, Mayor Allen Allen Street
[30:48]
Reconstruction right ofway acquis
[30:50]
acquisition or take any action relative
[30:52]
there too. This is also a public
[30:54]
hearing. Is there a motion to open the
[30:56]
public hearing for order 26 050
[31:00]
third uh number three?
[31:02]
>> So moved.
[31:03]
>> Second.
[31:04]
>> Motion's been made and seconded. All
[31:05]
those in favor?
[31:06]
>> I will now refer to councelor Quilty,
[31:10]
chair of the committee on the department
[31:12]
of public works for recommendation on
[31:14]
order 2650-h.
[31:18]
The committee on the department of
[31:19]
public works met earlier this evening
[31:21]
and sends this to the full council with
[31:23]
a unanimous favorable recommendation.
[31:27]
Thank you councelor Quilty. Is there a
[31:28]
planning board recommendation?
[31:36]
» Mr. Matt, is he just he just stepped
[31:38]
out?
[31:39]
>> Okay.
[31:55]
Excuse me, council. I just had to go to
[31:57]
the men's room. Um the planning boards
[31:59]
did have a public hearing on this and
[32:00]
the planning board fully supports the um
[32:03]
roadway layout as proposed by um our
[32:07]
staff over at the engineering
[32:09]
department.
[32:10]
>> Thank you. Uh this is the third and
[32:13]
final vote on this project, the Allen
[32:15]
Street project. Would anyone else from
[32:16]
the mayor's staff wish to speak on the
[32:19]
order?
[32:21]
Recognize Mr. Thompson.
[32:30]
» Thank you, uh, President MREN and
[32:32]
members of the council. Uh, I'll be
[32:34]
brief. I'm sure everybody's uh had their
[32:36]
fill of Allen Allen Street uh
[32:39]
presentations, but um I'm here tonight
[32:42]
just seeking a favorable vote from the
[32:44]
council uh to alter the layout of Allen
[32:46]
Street. Um as with the other uh
[32:49]
presentations to the council over the
[32:50]
past several months. Uh this request is
[32:53]
uh related to the Allen Street
[32:54]
reconstruction project. Uh this is the
[32:57]
last action that will be required of the
[32:59]
council uh to satisfy state and federal
[33:02]
uh rightaway requirements to ensure that
[33:04]
the project moves forward to
[33:06]
construction. Uh at the last council
[33:08]
meeting, the council approved an order
[33:10]
for taking that secured 23 temporary
[33:12]
easements and 12 permanent easements
[33:15]
along the project corridor. Uh there
[33:17]
were three permanent easements that were
[33:19]
taken uh labeled as A2 um I'm sorry E2,
[33:23]
E3, and E4 on the right ofway plan set.
[33:27]
And the purpose for of these three um
[33:30]
permanent easements was for roadway and
[33:32]
sidewalk construction. Um, favorable
[33:35]
action by the council tonight would
[33:37]
amend the Allen Street layout to
[33:39]
incorporate these three easement areas
[33:42]
as after construction, uh, the general
[33:44]
public would have access to these areas.
[33:47]
Um, these layout alterations were
[33:49]
presented to the planning board at their
[33:51]
September 10th meeting uh, and they
[33:52]
voted to return a favorable
[33:54]
recommendation to the council. Uh, and
[33:56]
I'm happy to answer any questions. Thank
[33:58]
you.
[33:59]
Um, is there any questions from the
[34:02]
council on this matter?
[34:04]
>> Vice President Magglia,
[34:06]
>> thank you very much. Um, we talked a lot
[34:08]
about the details of this last time and
[34:11]
it's pretty it's a pretty major u piece
[34:15]
of work that's happening and it's also
[34:17]
quite exciting.
[34:20]
>> It's going to be very messy over the
[34:23]
next five years and I mean that in the
[34:25]
very literal sense of the word. Um
[34:28]
people's um access is going to be
[34:31]
impacted. There's a huge building that
[34:33]
just went up. Now the street is
[34:35]
impacted. Is there a 24-hour point
[34:39]
person or can there be a 24-hour point
[34:43]
person for when there is an issue
[34:45]
related to this all of this work that's
[34:48]
happening and would that be in the town
[34:51]
or would that be with the state?
[34:53]
>> Uh the the answer to your question is uh
[34:56]
is actually both. So there will be um a resident engineer uh
[35:01]
that's standard operating procedure for
[35:04]
mass DOT on any project that they
[35:06]
oversee. They have a a resident engineer
[35:08]
that's on the project at all times. Uh
[35:10]
and that I our department of public
[35:14]
works and the engineering department at
[35:16]
the town level will be in close contact
[35:18]
with that resident engineer. So um
[35:23]
we'll also make the contact inf uh the
[35:25]
contact information for that individual
[35:28]
uh available to residents but the
[35:29]
residents are also able to reach out to
[35:32]
the DPW and we were able to um deal with with things as they come in.
[35:38]
>> And is that just during working hours? I
[35:41]
noticed in all of the plans it talked
[35:43]
about uh the engineer on site and
[35:45]
various personnel on site. what happens
[35:47]
at 6 o'clock, 8:00, midnight if
[35:49]
something should happen.
[35:51]
>> Um, also typical with with with um with
[35:54]
large scale projects like this, the
[35:55]
contractor will have um emergency
[35:58]
personnel uh so we can make that, you
[36:01]
know, we can make that available as
[36:02]
well.
[36:02]
>> Great. Thank you very much. That's all I
[36:04]
had.
[36:05]
>> Thank you, Vice President Maglio. Um are
[36:08]
there any other questions from the
[36:09]
council? Okay.
[36:12]
Um is there anyone if you have nothing
[36:14]
further, Mr. Thompson, thank you for
[36:16]
your work on this. Um, you've, you know,
[36:19]
we've had a lot of documentation.
[36:22]
Uh, you've made it clear to us and we
[36:25]
appreciate your efforts on this.
[36:27]
>> Thank you.
[36:27]
>> Um, is there anyone from the general
[36:30]
public wishing to speak on this order?
[36:35]
Seeing none, is there a motion to close
[36:37]
the public hearing on 2603?
[36:41]
>> So moved.
[36:42]
>> Second.
[36:42]
>> Motion's been made and seconded. All
[36:44]
those in favor?
[36:45]
>> I.
[36:46]
>> It's unanimous. I'll now uh ask for a
[36:48]
motion on the order.
[36:51]
>> Motion. I move that the town council
[36:53]
vote to alter the layout of Allen Street
[36:55]
and specifically to include within the
[36:57]
layout of Allen Street certain parcels
[37:00]
being parcels E2, E3, and E4 as shown on
[37:04]
a plan entitled alteration and easement
[37:06]
plan Allen Street, Brainree,
[37:09]
Massachusetts, dated August 20th, 2026.
[37:12]
prepared by WSPUSA,
[37:14]
Inc.
[37:16]
>> second.
[37:17]
>> Motion's been made and seconded. All
[37:19]
those in favor?
[37:20]
>> I.
[37:20]
>> It's unanimous. Uh, thank you for your
[37:23]
for, uh, I'd like to thank all the town
[37:25]
departments for their work on this and,
[37:27]
uh, and hopefully as it gets messy, uh,
[37:31]
we keep on top of it so that, uh, the
[37:33]
residents of Allen Street are are kept
[37:35]
safe and, uh, their concerns are
[37:37]
addressed.
[37:38]
>> Thank you.
[37:39]
I would ask now um I'd like
[37:41]
to take um a matter out of order. Under
[37:45]
new business 26064,
[37:48]
council president discussion and vote on
[37:51]
statement of interest for supplementary
[37:53]
statement to the school building
[37:55]
authority or take up any action relative
[37:58]
there too. We have with us this evening
[38:00]
the superintendent of schools and and
[38:02]
the chair of the school committee. This
[38:05]
would require same night action request
[38:07]
is um uh or same night action. This is a
[38:11]
same night action request. Is there any
[38:13]
objection from any counselors to same
[38:15]
night action on this order?
[38:19]
Seeing none, uh I would ask um for
[38:24]
either the superintendent or or uh the
[38:27]
school committee chair to come up and uh
[38:30]
give us a status on where we are with
[38:31]
the SBA and and what's being requested
[38:34]
this evening.
[38:39]
I would note that um councelor uh
[38:43]
Sterling and I attended the uh school
[38:45]
committee uh meeting last last evening
[38:48]
and listen to the um the deliberations
[38:51]
and discussion and it was uh very
[38:53]
helpful. So superintendent floor is
[38:55]
yours.
[38:56]
>> Thank you very much. Uh, as many of you
[38:59]
know, the MSBA visited Brainree High
[39:01]
School for a visit on the first day of
[39:04]
school and we had a group of town
[39:06]
leaders there along with school leaders
[39:08]
and we listened gave some brief
[39:10]
presentations and listened to some
[39:11]
questions from the MSBA and from the
[39:14]
architects that were present
[39:16]
during that discussion. Uh, the MSBA uh
[39:19]
made it very clear that the decision
[39:21]
regarding grade configuration was left
[39:23]
up to the town of Brainery. But they did
[39:26]
infer that it would be better for us to
[39:27]
be more specific in which way we would
[39:30]
like to go forward. Um at that point um
[39:34]
the school committee decided last night
[39:36]
uh to on a vote of 6 to1 to go with a 9
[39:40]
through 12 grade configuration for the
[39:43]
new or renovated Brainree High School in
[39:46]
the hopes that the MSBA will choose to
[39:48]
partner with us for this important
[39:50]
building.
[39:52]
Thank you.
[39:53]
>> Thank you. Um, are there any questions
[39:55]
from any of the counselors?
[39:58]
>> Councelor Barerica.
[39:59]
>> Thank you, President Morren. Um, I'm
[40:02]
curious just from a procedural
[40:05]
standpoint because we don't have
[40:07]
anything in our in our uh documents for
[40:10]
the tonight.
[40:12]
Is there do we need to revote on the
[40:15]
statement of interest or is this just
[40:16]
more of anformational update? So what
[40:19]
this is is a is a supplemental or an
[40:23]
updated or clarification of of this
[40:25]
statement of interest. It does not
[40:27]
require a revote on the statement of
[40:29]
interest that was approved by the
[40:31]
council previously. This is just in
[40:33]
supplement to that to clarify um to the
[40:38]
um uh SBA what the preference of the of
[40:41]
the town is. and they were asking that
[40:44]
if the school committee and the uh
[40:47]
council could um you know state in
[40:51]
unison what their preferences are.
[40:54]
>> Okay. With a followup then so we would
[40:56]
be sending up in conjunction with the
[40:58]
school committee depending on the
[41:00]
outcome of this evening a like an
[41:03]
amendment that is signed by either
[41:05]
yourself or the entire council. a
[41:07]
letter. I believe a letter would be
[41:09]
signed by the superintendent, the chair
[41:11]
of the u the school committee and and
[41:13]
myself.
[41:14]
>> Okay. Thank you for clarifying and um I have a lot of faith and trust in our
[41:20]
school committee members and know that
[41:22]
they have done a ton of work on um the
[41:27]
SOI
[41:29]
la last school year earlier this
[41:32]
calendar year and um I will definitely
[41:35]
be fully supporting their decision this
[41:37]
evening. So thank you. Thank you for uh
[41:39]
answering my questions.
[41:40]
>> Thank you for the questions council
[41:41]
barer. Are there any other
[41:43]
>> not a question?
[41:44]
>> Councel Dudy.
[41:46]
>> Thank you, Mr. President. Uh having some
[41:47]
experience with the MSBA and their
[41:49]
processes and procedures. Uh I support
[41:51]
the shift to grades 9 through 12 in the
[41:53]
high school. Uh when we parted partnered
[41:55]
with the MSBA uh on South and East, we
[41:59]
addressed an enrollment issue that we
[42:01]
were then facing. Uh we worked with the
[42:02]
MSBA on those projects receiving
[42:05]
significant funding from the state. Um
[42:07]
at that point, we had a plan in place
[42:08]
for grades 5 through eight. uh and we're
[42:11]
going to go back to them to work on the
[42:12]
high schools 9th through 12 later on. So
[42:15]
now uh modifying the S so SOI stays uh
[42:18]
in line with the previous uh plans and
[42:20]
conversations we had with the MSBA uh
[42:23]
which up to that point, you know, has
[42:25]
been an effective partnership. Uh
[42:27]
keeping in line with that original plan
[42:28]
shows the state that we're serious uh in
[42:31]
our original plans and I believe it
[42:33]
gives uh the town the best chance we
[42:35]
have in addressing the current issues at
[42:36]
the high school.
[42:37]
>> Thank you, Council Derty. there. Council
[42:40]
>> Ringers,
[42:41]
>> just a comment. Um I I served on the
[42:43]
school committee when we initially voted
[42:45]
to transition to that sort of 5 through
[42:47]
eight um model and I think I piggyback
[42:50]
on what council dudy says. I think it
[42:52]
sort of sticks with that path that we
[42:54]
had um established at that time that we
[42:57]
were going to focus on the 5 through
[42:58]
eight to address at that time um was a
[43:00]
significant um overcrowding issue that
[43:03]
we were facing in all our entry schools
[43:04]
and by moving fifth to middle school it
[43:06]
sort of alleviated that concern. um and
[43:09]
created what we now have following that
[43:11]
path to our sort of our new south and
[43:12]
our new east. And I think this is now
[43:15]
sort of the next step in that process.
[43:16]
Um the kids have these bright, shiny,
[43:19]
wonderful new middle schools and we hope
[43:21]
that at some point it will follow suit
[43:23]
that that will continue into their high
[43:25]
school years. Um, I applaud and u thank
[43:30]
Superintendent uh McDonald and his staff
[43:32]
as well as Chairman Rolo and the school
[43:34]
committee for the work that they put on
[43:35]
this all through last spring through the
[43:38]
summer uh and now into the fall. Um, and
[43:40]
I am going to uh support this as well.
[43:42]
So, thank you.
[43:44]
>> There any other comments? Vice President
[43:46]
Mley?
[43:47]
>> Yes. Thank you. Thank you very much for
[43:48]
this update. I'm wondering what has
[43:50]
happened since we submitted this to now
[43:55]
that results in making this um firm
[43:59]
distinction I guess for 9 to 12.
[44:02]
>> I think the biggest piece was the the
[44:04]
visit that we had with the MSBA in early
[44:06]
September where they kind of gave us the
[44:07]
indication that it would be important
[44:08]
for us to choose one way or the other.
[44:11]
And so they said it was important to
[44:14]
choose, but was there any did we do any
[44:17]
further research or um like what is it
[44:20]
that made us choose 9 to 12 versus the
[44:24]
what was it 7 to 12?
[44:25]
>> Correct.
[44:26]
>> Like what what more did we learn that
[44:29]
makes that a good idea?
[44:32]
>> Well, I don't know if we learned more to
[44:34]
make it a good idea. I think it was more
[44:36]
about what's the best avenue for the
[44:38]
town of Brainy to to be invited into the
[44:41]
process. And I think and I don't want to
[44:43]
speak for the school committee members
[44:44]
that voted, but I think that was one of
[44:46]
the driving forces for going in this
[44:48]
direction was we felt that this would
[44:50]
make give us a better opportunity to get
[44:52]
into the partnership.
[44:54]
>> Okay. So, this is a this is a strategic
[44:56]
decision in order to get the funding.
[44:58]
Yes.
[44:59]
>> Basically to get a new high school. So,
[45:01]
I I
[45:02]
>> renovated renovated high school.
[45:03]
>> I'm sorry. or a renovated high school
[45:05]
>> or renovated. So I'm just wondering
[45:08]
did they offer reasons as to why that
[45:12]
would be more
[45:15]
investment worthy or attractive or we
[45:19]
would have um a uh better outcomes. We'd
[45:24]
have a better educational program. Like
[45:26]
I'm just I'm just looking for something
[45:28]
that makes 9 to 12 a really good
[45:31]
decision other than it's what we can get
[45:33]
the funding for.
[45:34]
>> Well, I think it was more about showing
[45:37]
the unity, show being more specific as a
[45:39]
group, as a town council and as a school
[45:41]
committee going in one direction as
[45:43]
opposed to having we put this originally
[45:45]
in the soi to try to be versatile, you
[45:47]
know, try to show our versatility to the
[45:49]
MSBA. And when we met with them, they pretty much said it would be better
[45:52]
if you could just pick one or the other,
[45:55]
which led us to this decision.
[45:58]
>> Okay. Thank you.
[45:59]
>> You're welcome.
[46:01]
>> Are there any other questions?
[46:04]
>> Council Flurry.
[46:05]
>> Thank you. Not a question, just a a
[46:08]
statement to be clear. Um, I attended
[46:10]
this meeting um with the MSBA
[46:13]
representatives and we toured the high
[46:15]
school and I I have a a son who just
[46:17]
graduated from the high school and a
[46:19]
daughter who's a senior there and I've
[46:20]
been visiting the high school, you know,
[46:22]
semi-regularly for the last I don't know
[46:26]
seven or eight years. And um what this
[46:29]
[clears throat] tour did was take me
[46:31]
beyond the area of the gym and the
[46:34]
cafeteria and the auditorium, the front
[46:37]
of the building so to speak that I have
[46:41]
regularly seen, which is not fancy. It
[46:43]
is not fancy in there, but it is clean
[46:45]
and it looks like things are at least
[46:48]
intact.
[46:51]
The tour that I was taken through took
[46:54]
us into the science classrooms, the art
[46:57]
classrooms, the orchestra room, and what
[47:01]
you can see when you get away from the
[47:03]
front of the building is a lot of things
[47:07]
that just look
[47:10]
out of order. So, peeling paint, water
[47:14]
damage, faulty sinks, cluttered
[47:17]
conditions because of lack of storage.
[47:19]
We were told about regular bathroom
[47:21]
closures and unattractive bathroom
[47:24]
smells because of plumbing problems,
[47:26]
water damage because of leaks.
[47:30]
There's damaged furniture.
[47:33]
It's shabby. It's unwelcoming.
[47:36]
And it really is something that needs to
[47:38]
be
[47:40]
renovated, replaced,
[47:42]
radically improved. And this community
[47:45]
has known that for a long, long time.
[47:47]
Like I sort of thought when my kids were
[47:49]
little and attending the integrated
[47:51]
preschool that we would have a maybe a
[47:53]
new high school by the time my kids were
[47:55]
ready to go and that just did not turn
[47:56]
out to be the case. But um
[48:01]
now we are confronted with this question
[48:04]
of whether to change the grade
[48:07]
configurations of the high school
[48:09]
because in the school master plan it
[48:12]
indicated that we were interested in
[48:14]
both options.
[48:16]
And um I think that a decision to
[48:19]
explore the pursuit of a 7 through 12
[48:21]
grade configuration may have some merit
[48:23]
in theory, but this decision has to be
[48:26]
taken in the context that we are in
[48:28]
right now. Um and there are two things
[48:32]
that are really relevant to consider in
[48:35]
my view. One is that we just partnered
[48:38]
with the MSBA on two middle school
[48:40]
projects where we asked them to support
[48:42]
us through building a 5 through8 school
[48:46]
once and then another 5 through8 school
[48:49]
again. So to change
[48:54]
uh to change course at this point
[48:58]
um is not in alignment with what we told
[49:00]
them we wanted to do in the past. And I
[49:03]
can well understand why that might make
[49:05]
them hesitate to partner with us because
[49:08]
you want to be a partner in good faith
[49:10]
and not give the impression that you're
[49:13]
going to change at any moment that you
[49:15]
don't really know what you're doing and
[49:16]
what you need. The other thing is that
[49:19]
this community is expecting a 9
[49:21]
through12 proposal to come forward and
[49:23]
we are absolutely going to need um to
[49:26]
pass a debt exclusion in order to fund
[49:28]
it. And so I I think that at this point
[49:32]
to try and convince a public that is
[49:36]
entirely unexpecting this sort of idea
[49:40]
to come forward that this is what we
[49:42]
should put big money towards is you know
[49:46]
perhaps a bigger lift than we want than
[49:48]
we should take on. Um so I will be
[49:51]
supporting this tonight for sure.
[49:55]
>> Well said. Thank you councel flarity.
[49:58]
One more time, Vice President.
[50:00]
>> Thank you. So, I think that I will also
[50:03]
be prepared to support this, but I do
[50:05]
want to say that I was hoping that there
[50:08]
would be a lot more information
[50:09]
available to us. Counselor Flareity just
[50:11]
mentioned a master plan, which I don't
[50:14]
feel like we actually do have a school
[50:15]
master plan. I don't there's hasn't been
[50:18]
any real new information since the last
[50:20]
time we met which was extremely tense
[50:23]
and fraught with um [snorts]
[50:26]
with uh urgency and um I would
[50:33]
>> I would ask that there be um a real
[50:37]
effort to actually create um the kind of
[50:41]
communication mechanisms that we can get
[50:44]
information the town can get information
[50:46]
and we can see that there's actually
[50:49]
work happening on the planning part of
[50:51]
this. I mean, we still don't know for
[50:53]
the rest of the schools what's going to
[50:55]
happen. And for me, it it's hard to
[50:58]
parcel this out without having a big
[51:01]
vision of what the future will bring for
[51:04]
our elementary schools, particularly the
[51:06]
schools that are in East Brainree. So, I
[51:09]
think that is something that I am hoping
[51:12]
to see some work on. Um, and um, I think
[51:17]
that would really be the spirit of
[51:19]
teamwork and collaboration and everyone
[51:22]
working together if we actually have a
[51:24]
plan that involves our entire public
[51:26]
school system and how we're going to
[51:28]
fund it and what it's going to look like
[51:30]
moving forward. But I do agree with um
[51:33]
the need. I just
[51:37]
would um I just would have thought it
[51:39]
would have played out a little
[51:40]
differently. But thank you. That's all I
[51:43]
want to say.
[51:44]
>> Thank you.
[51:45]
Um if if there are no other comments
[51:48]
from other councils, I I will take the
[51:50]
opportunity to comment. Um
[51:55]
I think that
[51:57]
in listening to this uh the school
[51:59]
committee's discussion last night and
[52:01]
particularly in the uh comments of Dr.
[52:03]
Horics, a member of the uh um committee
[52:06]
in her statement that you know she
[52:08]
discussed with other educators which uh configuration was preferential
[52:14]
and uh she came down on the side of of 9
[52:18]
through 12 and uh from from an
[52:20]
educational perspective
[52:23]
from my perspective I focus on on the
[52:28]
work of this council and the work of
[52:29]
this town's government on
[52:32]
um the art of the possible. What we are
[52:35]
trying to do is get a new high school
[52:37]
built and I think we need to um take the
[52:41]
steps that are going to enhance the
[52:43]
likelihood of success for that. Uh going
[52:48]
to a 7 through 12 model would would be
[52:51]
disruptive for the elementary schools
[52:53]
that we currently have. That would
[52:55]
generate opposition.
[52:57]
Um, reconfiguring the current middle
[53:01]
schools, as council uh, Flareity so
[53:03]
articulately stated,
[53:06]
would cause questions with the SBA and
[53:08]
questions with the public as to are well
[53:13]
intended, but are we committed to a
[53:15]
direction?
[53:17]
Um we I think we if by joining with the
[53:22]
school committee this evening I think we
[53:24]
demonstrate a unity of purpose and
[53:27]
support um for a new high school with a
[53:30]
configuration of grades 9 through 12. I
[53:34]
think we've also demonstrated in that
[53:36]
meeting that we have financial stability
[53:39]
that we have not had uh when we have
[53:42]
filed and tried to partner with the SBA
[53:44]
previously. We've got the money set
[53:46]
aside for the feasibility study. We've
[53:49]
got our our fiscal house in much greater
[53:52]
better order than we had previously.
[53:55]
We're ready to to partner uh in a way
[53:57]
that in a more meaningful way than we
[53:59]
have been in years. So I think that it
[54:01]
is important for us to to join uh with
[54:05]
the school committee in their action and
[54:08]
um and support uh their um communication
[54:12]
to the u school building authority. With
[54:16]
that I would entertain a motion.
[54:23]
I move that the town council join the
[54:25]
school committee in supporting its
[54:27]
supplemental submission to the school
[54:29]
building authority.
[54:30]
>> Second.
[54:31]
>> Motion's been made and seconded. All
[54:33]
those in favor?
[54:34]
>> I.
[54:35]
>> It is unanimous. Thank you very much.
[54:37]
Thank you, Superintendent. Thank you,
[54:39]
Chair Rola, for attending this evening.
[54:43]
Okay, I got to go find my place again.
[54:45]
Here we've done Allen Street. Don't want
[54:47]
to do Allen Street again.
[54:51]
Okay, we're moving to back to the uh
[54:54]
agenda. We'll be moving to 26059
[54:58]
council uh amendments to zoning
[55:00]
ordinance 135206 and 135604 or any
[55:04]
action relative there too. Um this is on
[55:07]
as a public hearing but it will be
[55:08]
continued to October 20th. Is there a
[55:11]
motion to um open the public hearing?
[55:13]
>> Motion to open the public hearing for
[55:15]
those three orders.
[55:17]
>> Second.
[55:18]
>> Motion's been made and seconded. All
[55:19]
those in favor?
[55:21]
>> I
[55:21]
>> Okay, we're open. Uh, this was tabled by
[55:23]
the committee on ordinances and rules
[55:25]
waiting for legal review and the
[55:26]
planning board recommendation. At this
[55:28]
time, we'll continue the public hearing
[55:30]
on uh till October 20th, 20 uh 26 at
[55:34]
7:30 p.m. Is there a motion to continue
[55:36]
the public hearing for order 26059?
[55:39]
>> Motion to continue.
[55:40]
>> Second.
[55:41]
>> Motion's been made and seconded. All
[55:42]
those in in favor?
[55:44]
>> I.
[55:45]
>> Okay. Thank you.
[55:48]
Okay. Um, next uh is 26061,
[55:54]
mayor's authorization to accept
[55:55]
donations, veterans programs, or take up
[55:58]
any action relative there too. I'd now
[56:01]
uh refer to Council Barerica, chair of
[56:02]
the Ways and Means Committee for
[56:04]
recommendation on the order.
[56:06]
>> Thank you, President Morren. The
[56:08]
Committee of Ways and Means met uh
[56:10]
yesterday on September 14th. We're
[56:12]
sending this to the full council with a
[56:14]
unanimous favorable recommendation and
[56:17]
our many thanks to the donors.
[56:20]
>> Thank you, Council Barer. Anyone wish to
[56:22]
speak on this matter from the mayor's
[56:24]
office?
[56:26]
>> Mr. Resmond.
[56:28]
>> Good evening. [clears throat] Uh,
[56:28]
President MREN and members of the
[56:30]
council. Just very quickly, um motion in
[56:32]
front of you um would allow uh the town
[56:35]
to accept $1,100 um from the two
[56:38]
indicated um community organizations
[56:40]
that help serve uh provide services to
[56:43]
our veterans um community. These were
[56:45]
greatly appreciated gifts. And um just
[56:48]
for um a little information, this will
[56:50]
help um our veteran services officer
[56:52]
defay costs for events and community
[56:55]
programming. he provides um in service
[56:58]
to the veterans in our community um
[57:00]
through the course of the year. I'm
[57:01]
happy to answer any questions.
[57:04]
>> Any questions?
[57:06]
Seeing none. Thank you, Mr. Esmond. Um
[57:09]
uh Council Reynolds, I apologize.
[57:11]
>> Not a question. Thank you, Mr.
[57:12]
President. Just a comment. I want to say
[57:13]
thank you to the American Legion Post 86
[57:16]
and Disabled American Veterans Post uh
[57:20]
for their generous donations to the
[57:22]
town's veteran services uh office. It is
[57:25]
a as we all know it's a growing um
[57:28]
interest in supporting the veterans of
[57:30]
not only Brainree but also supporting
[57:32]
the veterans uh and veteran related
[57:35]
issues for the towns of Avon and
[57:37]
Hullbrook as well. And I just wanted to
[57:40]
make sure that the that the the
[57:42]
community had the opportunity to say
[57:44]
thank you to those organizations and
[57:46]
supporting the town government's uh
[57:50]
ability to provide those important
[57:52]
benefits that Mr. Eman had enumerated.
[57:55]
Thank you, Mr. President.
[57:57]
>> Thank you, Councelor Reynolds. Well
[57:59]
said. Um
[58:02]
there's no further um discussion. I'll
[58:05]
take a motion.
[58:07]
>> Motion that the town of Brainree be and
[58:09]
hereby is authorized in accordance with
[58:11]
section 53A of chapter 44 of the
[58:15]
Massachusetts General Laws to accept the
[58:17]
following gift upon the conditions
[58:19]
attached and herein set forth. Donor
[58:22]
Brainree American Legion Post86 gift
[58:25]
$100 purpose support veteran programs
[58:29]
donor Brainree VFW Post1702
[58:33]
gift $1,000 purpose support veteran
[58:36]
programs
[58:38]
>> second.
[58:39]
>> Motion's been made and seconded. All
[58:40]
those in favor?
[58:42]
>> I.
[58:42]
>> It's unanimous. Thank you. Thank you,
[58:44]
Mr. Esmond. Next to uh 26062 mayor
[58:48]
intermunicipal agreement for emergency
[58:50]
motor vehicle technician services or any
[58:52]
action relative there too. I'll now once
[58:55]
again refer to council bareric chair of
[58:57]
the committee on ways and means for a
[58:59]
recommendation on order 26062.
[59:02]
>> Thank you very much president MREN. Um
[59:04]
again the committee met yesterday and we
[59:06]
are sending this to the full council
[59:08]
with a unanimous favorable
[59:10]
recommendation.
[59:11]
>> Thank you councelor Barerica. Is there
[59:12]
anyone from the mayor's staff that would
[59:14]
like to speak on this matter? Chief
[59:16]
Viola.
[59:21]
» Good evening and thank you, Freddy
[59:22]
Viola, Fire Chief. Um,
[59:26]
I wanted to be able to explain and
[59:28]
answer any questions related to this IMA
[59:30]
uh intermunicipal agreement with the
[59:32]
town of Foxboro. So, I I have to go
[59:34]
backwards to go forward. So, I'll just
[59:36]
tell you that when um when I first took
[59:39]
over, one of the first things that I was
[59:40]
doing or did was take an assessment of
[59:43]
the um the vehicles that we have in our
[59:45]
fleet, which consists of five engines,
[59:47]
two ladders, uh one squad, one forestry
[59:50]
truck, and a heavy rescue, which I'm
[59:51]
dying to hear from the TE on. Uh we also
[59:54]
have some administrative vehicles or or
[59:56]
light duty vehicles that um we we send
[59:58]
out for repairs. We have a number of
[1:00:00]
vendors u now and that list grows. Um, a
[1:00:05]
lot of the firetruck stuff when it goes
[1:00:07]
to be repaired, we have to send it to if
[1:00:10]
it's not a light duty repair, it has to
[1:00:12]
go to the dealership and the dealership
[1:00:13]
charges us if anyone has a vehicle,
[1:00:16]
newer vehicle, and they take it to the
[1:00:17]
dealership. You understand the
[1:00:19]
dealership rates are a lot higher than
[1:00:21]
that of [snorts] your typical repair
[1:00:23]
shops. So, um, in partnership with, um,
[1:00:27]
FCAM and some of the other chief
[1:00:29]
organizations, I found that the town of
[1:00:31]
Foxboro can do these repairs with
[1:00:33]
certified technicians at least rate and
[1:00:37]
with a little more expedience than that
[1:00:39]
of the dealership. So, I felt that um,
[1:00:42]
to relieve some of the stray that we
[1:00:44]
have with using the same old same old
[1:00:46]
all the time or taxing some of the
[1:00:48]
smaller vendors that we should enter
[1:00:50]
into this agreement to um, provide some
[1:00:52]
repairs. The oldest truck that we have
[1:00:55]
currently as a firstline piece of
[1:00:57]
apparatus is a 2012 and that uh needs
[1:01:00]
some some work to keep that running as a
[1:01:02]
frontline piece. Uh that's the engine
[1:01:05]
three east side the uh the engine the
[1:01:08]
engine 3 which covers the east side of
[1:01:10]
Brainree. Um so that needs some repairs
[1:01:12]
and they I wanted to be able to do that.
[1:01:14]
They they're all certified um Allison
[1:01:17]
transmissions, Cumins motors, hail
[1:01:19]
pumps, waterous pumps. These are all
[1:01:21]
factory standard but um they need
[1:01:24]
certified technicians to work on them
[1:01:26]
and also to and on an annual basis
[1:01:28]
certify them as safe to operate at a
[1:01:31]
fire. So um yeah just to eliminate the
[1:01:34]
stray and look for more ways to save
[1:01:36]
money and make our budget stretch a
[1:01:39]
little bit more. This is just one more
[1:01:40]
option. We wouldn't use them exclusive
[1:01:42]
exclusively for everything, but we would
[1:01:44]
use them um periodically especially they
[1:01:47]
can offer mobile service so they can
[1:01:48]
come out to Brainree and fix it here um
[1:01:52]
on that. So they're just we just want to
[1:01:54]
add them to as one of our vendor list
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and I would be happy to answer any
[1:01:58]
further questions.
[1:02:01]
>> Are there any questions?
[1:02:03]
>> Council Beric,
[1:02:04]
>> just a comment. Um, I think it's
[1:02:06]
important and to acknowledge and thank
[1:02:09]
you, Chief Fiola, for your work on this.
[1:02:11]
You know, this not only is a cost
[1:02:13]
savings for the town of Brainree, it
[1:02:17]
protects our firefighters, it protects
[1:02:21]
our residents by making sure our
[1:02:23]
equipment is in service as much as
[1:02:26]
possible. I believe in uh one of the
[1:02:29]
memos we received through Ways and
[1:02:31]
Means. You know, we at one point, I
[1:02:33]
think it was in the 90s, we had our own
[1:02:37]
firefighter fire truck.
[1:02:40]
>> We had a um we had an ASME employee that
[1:02:42]
worked as a mechanic. And he was one of
[1:02:44]
those people that in a blizzard could
[1:02:46]
get a tank running [snorts] on the side
[1:02:50]
of the road. He was just one of those
[1:02:51]
guys that was very, very handy, very
[1:02:53]
good. He could weld, he could do
[1:02:54]
everything. So with that there was a
[1:02:56]
member of the fire department that
[1:02:58]
helped him. Um as time passed those
[1:03:02]
positions were faded out and we have we
[1:03:04]
still have someone who does fluid breaks
[1:03:07]
um twice a month and we have a uh
[1:03:09]
Lieutenant Milwood who um oversees that
[1:03:12]
keeps that on a steady basis. I'm a I'm
[1:03:14]
a real uh preventive maintenance person.
[1:03:16]
I am with my own vehicle and I think
[1:03:18]
it's very important when it comes to
[1:03:19]
frontline apparatus. So, and uh I'm in
[1:03:22]
concert with Lieutenant Mil Milwood with
[1:03:24]
that. So, um he organizes the those
[1:03:28]
types of spot checks uh twice a month as
[1:03:30]
well as all these other repairs. He
[1:03:32]
interfaces with the vendors. He
[1:03:34]
interfaces with the parts companies and
[1:03:35]
those things. So, we still have someone
[1:03:37]
that does that but doesn't turn
[1:03:39]
wrenches. We don't have the capacity or
[1:03:43]
the facil or the proper facilities,
[1:03:44]
proper waste oil containment, things
[1:03:46]
like that that would come along with
[1:03:47]
that. So it is a lot easier to um you
[1:03:50]
know farm it out essentially.
[1:03:52]
>> Well, I I commend you on the your vision
[1:03:56]
and your leadership for not just this
[1:03:58]
program but for the department because
[1:04:00]
these are the little things that end up
[1:04:02]
being the big things. Um when there is
[1:04:05]
an emergency, our trucks will be ready.
[1:04:08]
Um and and that's thanks to your
[1:04:10]
leadership. So thank you, Chief.
[1:04:11]
>> Thank you,
[1:04:14]
Chief. Um, I want to commend you for
[1:04:17]
your creativity and your approach to
[1:04:18]
this this um this issue. I think it it
[1:04:22]
will lead to cost savings. It'll also
[1:04:24]
keep vehicles in service. Um, when you
[1:04:27]
have to go to the dealership, you not
[1:04:29]
only have to pay more, you have to wait
[1:04:31]
longer.
[1:04:32]
>> Yes.
[1:04:32]
>> And um and and that I think is a is a
[1:04:36]
public safety issue and for for some
[1:04:39]
departments uh you have really have to
[1:04:41]
manage uh your vehicles well. I think
[1:04:43]
your your vehicle maintenance program,
[1:04:46]
you know, I happen to hear a lot about
[1:04:48]
that.
[1:04:48]
>> Oh, I'm sure you do.
[1:04:49]
>> Yes. Um, so I'm I'm well familiar with
[1:04:52]
that. It it seems like it's it's active.
[1:04:55]
It's important, you know, we've seen we
[1:04:57]
know the tragedies in Boston when brakes
[1:04:59]
failed on on engines.
[1:05:01]
>> It's important to keep up on on those
[1:05:03]
things. Um, I share councelor Barerica's
[1:05:08]
uh um curiosity about and I remember
[1:05:12]
when we did have the de the uh ASME
[1:05:15]
employee that that did this work. I
[1:05:17]
think we ideally we would we would be
[1:05:21]
better off if we could one day get to
[1:05:23]
the point where we did have a a fire
[1:05:25]
mechanic on staff. in Norwell where I
[1:05:28]
was town minister, we were fortunate to
[1:05:30]
have two and and so those communities
[1:05:34]
that do have them share and and what
[1:05:38]
you're doing now is availing yourself of
[1:05:41]
a community that has that in a in a
[1:05:43]
shrewd way. Um, but I I would like to,
[1:05:47]
you know, see if we could get to a point
[1:05:49]
where we have a facility that can um,
[1:05:53]
you know, where we can properly service
[1:05:55]
our vehicles and we have the staff that
[1:05:57]
can work on it as well.
[1:05:59]
>> Yeah, that would be it's going to take a
[1:06:01]
while to get there, but I it's a worthy
[1:06:03]
goal.
[1:06:04]
>> Yes. I uh just two notes too that you
[1:06:06]
know we should I know that you folks
[1:06:08]
know but maybe for the public is that we
[1:06:10]
have capital uh we have we purchased a
[1:06:13]
fire engine this year through capital
[1:06:15]
and we have another one spaced out um
[1:06:17]
for purchase in you know between now and
[1:06:20]
2030 I believe it is. So um if we find
[1:06:24]
one like we did that like this new one
[1:06:27]
um we can certainly make that purchase
[1:06:28]
and just update our fleet with um with a
[1:06:31]
newer newer apparatus. But with all the
[1:06:33]
newer apparatus comes with all the
[1:06:36]
newer, you know, computers and all the
[1:06:39]
other stuff that come with it. And then
[1:06:40]
uh the uh ways and means asked me last
[1:06:43]
night and I wasn't sure. So I I did some
[1:06:45]
research in Cambridge also does this uh
[1:06:47]
jointly for the north of Boston. So just
[1:06:50]
in case you were wonder I know you were
[1:06:51]
wondering last night. So I did find that
[1:06:53]
out. So
[1:06:55]
>> thank you chief.
[1:06:56]
>> Uh if there's no further discussion I'll
[1:06:58]
entertain a motion on this order.
[1:07:02]
Motion authorizing Mayor Erin v. Joyce
[1:07:06]
to execute an intermunic municipal
[1:07:08]
agreement on behalf of the town of
[1:07:10]
Braintry for shared emergency motor
[1:07:12]
vehicle technician services between the
[1:07:15]
towns of Braintry and Foxboro.
[1:07:18]
>> Second.
[1:07:18]
>> Motion's been made and seconded. All
[1:07:20]
those in favor?
[1:07:21]
>> I.
[1:07:21]
>> It's unanimous. Thank you. Um we have on
[1:07:25]
the agenda this evening um 2726
[1:07:28]
uh which we've had but we have no one
[1:07:32]
from the mayor's office attending this
[1:07:34]
evening to discuss or give us an update
[1:07:36]
on trash and recycling. If there's no
[1:07:39]
objection uh I won't remove this from
[1:07:41]
the table at this at this point if
[1:07:43]
that's okay. Thank you. We'll probably
[1:07:45]
have someone at the next at the next
[1:07:48]
meeting.
[1:07:50]
Um, moving to new business and to the
[1:07:53]
very patient folks in the back of the
[1:07:56]
room that are going to tell us a lot of
[1:07:58]
interesting stuff. Um, we are going to
[1:08:01]
move to the F
[1:08:03]
order number 3226
[1:08:06]
FY25 audit review or any action relative
[1:08:09]
there too.
[1:08:11]
We've got Romina Mli and Renee Davis of
[1:08:15]
CBZ.
[1:08:17]
Which one of you wants to start? Good
[1:08:19]
evening and thank you for your patience.
[1:08:20]
>> Of course. Good evening and thank you
[1:08:22]
for having us. I'm Roina Mamelly. I am a
[1:08:25]
director with CBiz. Basically that means
[1:08:27]
I am the person who's on site conducting
[1:08:29]
the audit drafting the financial
[1:08:31]
statements and then they go to Renee
[1:08:33]
Davis who's a managing director with
[1:08:34]
CBIZ for her final review, approval,
[1:08:37]
sign off and issuance. So um I want to
[1:08:40]
talk a little bit about our process. So
[1:08:42]
we're here tonight to present our annual
[1:08:44]
presentation on the financial
[1:08:46]
statements. Tonight we're only going to
[1:08:48]
talk about the annual comprehensive
[1:08:49]
financial report for FY25.
[1:08:52]
And what we do is we're typically here
[1:08:54]
two times a year. So the first time we
[1:08:56]
come out is usually the springtime.
[1:08:58]
We're a little delayed this year. We're
[1:08:59]
actually doing it about now is our
[1:09:00]
planning. We go through and we do our planning. We do our risk
[1:09:04]
assessments. We document internal
[1:09:06]
controls. We look at the town's
[1:09:08]
processes and look to see did something
[1:09:10]
change. Where can things go wrong? where
[1:09:14]
is um where are there items where
[1:09:16]
something is lacking that something can
[1:09:18]
be strengthened and I will tell you that
[1:09:21]
this year there is for FY25 there is no
[1:09:23]
management letter there was no material
[1:09:25]
weaknesses or significant deficiencies
[1:09:27]
in these internal controls and anything
[1:09:29]
that we find that was not significant
[1:09:31]
would have been communicated with with
[1:09:34]
um Mike and his finance team.
[1:09:37]
So, as we're going through and we're
[1:09:39]
designing these um risks of what we're
[1:09:42]
going to test, that ba is our basic um
[1:09:47]
I'm going to say line of what we're
[1:09:49]
going to test. So, we design all of our
[1:09:52]
testing, real estate, user charges,
[1:09:55]
expenditure testing. We look at
[1:09:58]
compliance with laws and regulations and
[1:10:01]
that's how we build our audit. So, every
[1:10:02]
year there is a little bit of um an
[1:10:05]
unpredictability. We're selecting
[1:10:07]
different things for testing and I can
[1:10:10]
say that the testing that we performed
[1:10:11]
in FY25 we found nothing that didn't
[1:10:15]
foot didn't tie in was missing a
[1:10:17]
signature nothing. So all of our testing
[1:10:19]
came back perfect.
[1:10:22]
Then after the town has year-end numbers
[1:10:24]
so once they are ready to close their
[1:10:26]
books or close to we come out we do an
[1:10:28]
import of the of the trial balance into
[1:10:32]
our own software. We as a non-attest
[1:10:34]
service, we help prepare the financial
[1:10:36]
statements. All of that information
[1:10:39]
that's in these financial statements
[1:10:41]
does belong to the town. We just help in
[1:10:43]
putting that together. The town does
[1:10:46]
issue an annual comprehensive financial
[1:10:48]
report. So that gets submitted to the
[1:10:50]
GFOA for a certificate. So the town did
[1:10:54]
receive the FY24 certificate in May of
[1:10:57]
this year. and we have submitted the
[1:10:59]
FY25 report for that same certificate.
[1:11:03]
So, we're still waiting to hear back on
[1:11:04]
that. Probably be another couple of
[1:11:06]
months before those results come back to
[1:11:07]
us.
[1:11:09]
The financial statements themselves are
[1:11:11]
kind of set up as three different levels
[1:11:13]
of accounting. So, you have we're
[1:11:16]
actually going to start a little bit in
[1:11:17]
the back. I'm glad you guys got your
[1:11:19]
printed reports. So, thank you Sue for
[1:11:21]
putting those out. Um, so in the back of
[1:11:24]
the report, actually on if you wanted to
[1:11:27]
flip, you don't have to, but if you want
[1:11:28]
to flip, it's on page 110 to 112 is the
[1:11:31]
budget to actual. This is the closest to
[1:11:35]
cash basis that you can find. So when
[1:11:37]
you're talking about your budgets,
[1:11:38]
you're looking at where your
[1:11:39]
expenditures are, what you've
[1:11:41]
appropriated as part of your annual
[1:11:43]
budget, what your revenues, how they
[1:11:46]
came in, this is where you'd want to
[1:11:48]
look. So for FY25,
[1:11:52]
the actual general fund revenues came in
[1:11:54]
$10 million over what was budgeted. The
[1:11:57]
majority of that was in real estate in
[1:12:00]
departmental and other and in motor
[1:12:02]
vehicle. Um and remember when you're
[1:12:04]
putting together your revenue budgets,
[1:12:06]
they're conservative estimates. So we we
[1:12:08]
would expect that to come in higher.
[1:12:11]
Your actual expenditures um came in $2.5
[1:12:15]
million lower than what you budgeted.
[1:12:17]
And at the end of the day, you had a
[1:12:19]
$4.6 million increase in your budget to
[1:12:22]
actual. Your budget to actual only
[1:12:25]
includes your general fund.
[1:12:28]
And so when we move up to the next
[1:12:30]
level, your fund financial statements,
[1:12:32]
which start on page 33, those also
[1:12:35]
include a general fund. But the
[1:12:36]
difference is that general fund column
[1:12:38]
also includes your stabilization funds.
[1:12:41]
So, when we look at the balances that
[1:12:43]
are in your general fund on page 33 down
[1:12:46]
in your fund balance section, you're
[1:12:49]
going to see that there's a commitment
[1:12:51]
for continuing appropriations, those are
[1:12:52]
articles, for $1.8 million. There's a
[1:12:55]
signed fund balance for incumbrances for
[1:12:59]
$2.4 million. And then you have an
[1:13:01]
unassigned balance of $15.3 million. I
[1:13:05]
wanted to point this out because in your
[1:13:07]
FY24 report, that amount for your
[1:13:10]
unassigned was only $849,000
[1:13:14]
because of the legal settlement. So, in
[1:13:17]
FY25,
[1:13:18]
we saw that um insurance money come in.
[1:13:21]
We saw the um town issue the $6 million
[1:13:25]
in long-term bonds. So, that revenue is
[1:13:28]
now there supporting that number. So, in
[1:13:30]
FY23, it was 18.6 million. it went down
[1:13:34]
to the 849,000 and now it's back up to
[1:13:37]
15.3 million. That 15.3 million also
[1:13:41]
includes your stabilization funds. You
[1:13:43]
had two new stabilization funds in FY25
[1:13:47]
in override special purpose and a
[1:13:49]
special education stabilization fund.
[1:13:51]
Those totaled about 2.1 million in new
[1:13:54]
funds. And in total, your stabilization
[1:13:57]
funds totaled 6.5 million, which is all
[1:14:00]
encompassed inside of that $15.3
[1:14:03]
million number. You also had a major
[1:14:06]
fund for your town capital projects.
[1:14:08]
There are certain criteria that needs to
[1:14:10]
be met for a major fund to be shown on
[1:14:12]
your fund financial statements and that
[1:14:15]
fund clearly met that requirement. Um,
[1:14:18]
so that's shown there. And then you have
[1:14:19]
your non- major governmental funds. The
[1:14:23]
good thing about having an annual
[1:14:24]
comprehensive financial report is that
[1:14:27]
in the back of the of the financial
[1:14:29]
statements themselves way in the back
[1:14:31]
you have combining schedules. So that
[1:14:33]
breaks out each of the types of your
[1:14:35]
special revenue funds, any other capital
[1:14:37]
project funds and your permanent funds.
[1:14:39]
So you can have a little bit deeper
[1:14:42]
detail in um in what makes up those that
[1:14:45]
non- major governmental funds column.
[1:14:47]
Every year we reassess what those major
[1:14:50]
funds are and we move them between major
[1:14:52]
and non- major based on what those
[1:14:54]
assessments come back to. Then if we
[1:14:57]
move up another level
[1:15:00]
starting um just four pages before that
[1:15:03]
on page 29 these are your full acral
[1:15:05]
financial statements. So this is where
[1:15:07]
it encompasses your governmental
[1:15:08]
activities which is made up of all those
[1:15:10]
governmental funds. So, your general
[1:15:11]
funds, special revenue, capital
[1:15:12]
projects, permanent funds, um, and then
[1:15:15]
your business type activities are your
[1:15:16]
enterprise funds, all lumped together.
[1:15:19]
Your enterprise funds are shown there,
[1:15:21]
and they're also shown on your
[1:15:22]
proprietary fund statements. The
[1:15:24]
proprietary fund statements, just break
[1:15:25]
them out into the individual ones where
[1:15:28]
they're lumped together on your
[1:15:29]
statement of net position and statement
[1:15:30]
of activities.
[1:15:33]
Two big things we talk about every year.
[1:15:34]
The two big items on here are your OPED
[1:15:37]
and your pension. So, two liabilities
[1:15:40]
currently being funded. Um, your pension
[1:15:43]
is at as of I should say um the end of
[1:15:47]
FY25. The liability was $11.6
[1:15:54]
million.
[1:15:55]
Did I say that? Do I have that right?
[1:15:57]
Yep. Um, the pension plan is 75.2%
[1:16:01]
funded. The discount rate hasn't
[1:16:03]
changed. It has stayed at 7.125% since
[1:16:06]
the prior year. and your current year
[1:16:09]
investment return was 10.86%
[1:16:11]
which was a little bit down from the
[1:16:12]
year before of 13%. So funding is
[1:16:15]
scheduled out to um fiscal year 2033.
[1:16:20]
Massachusetts law says it has to be
[1:16:22]
fully funded by 2040. So you're in line
[1:16:24]
with having that funded in time. um
[1:16:28]
pension also there's Mass General law
[1:16:30]
requires that you're funding this unlike
[1:16:32]
OPED with your OPED liability that was
[1:16:36]
actually a liability at the end of uh
[1:16:39]
June 2025 of $176 million that was up
[1:16:44]
slightly um from the prior year by $6
[1:16:46]
million.
[1:16:48]
your OPED trust fund, which is reported
[1:16:51]
in your fiduciary statements. That's the
[1:16:53]
money that you vote to set aside to fund
[1:16:56]
this um OPED liability in the future.
[1:16:58]
That had a balance of $29 million at the
[1:17:01]
end of fiscal year 25. That was up from
[1:17:03]
25.8 million the year before. The
[1:17:06]
discount rate slightly changed, went
[1:17:07]
from 6.46%
[1:17:09]
um or that's the new one, down from
[1:17:11]
6.47%.
[1:17:14]
So, of that um of the amount that's in
[1:17:16]
your OPED trust fund, there's two
[1:17:19]
different amounts that you keep. You
[1:17:20]
maintain a separate one for town that
[1:17:22]
has 17.8 million of the 28 or 29 million
[1:17:27]
and the belt has 11.2 million of that
[1:17:29]
invested in there.
[1:17:32]
One of the things you're going to notice
[1:17:34]
in this year's financial statements is
[1:17:35]
there was a restatement. And the
[1:17:37]
restatement was because in FY25 there
[1:17:40]
was a new gazsby that was issued Gazsby
[1:17:42]
101 which related to compensated
[1:17:44]
absences. So as part of the
[1:17:46]
implementation of that gazsby we
[1:17:49]
reassessed what that liability would
[1:17:51]
have been had it come into play on 7124
[1:17:54]
at the beginning of the fiscal year. So
[1:17:57]
that change was over materiality for
[1:18:00]
both your governmental activities and
[1:18:02]
for your business type activities. So in
[1:18:04]
total there was a restatement of $4.5
[1:18:06]
million to recognize that implementation
[1:18:08]
of that Gazsby. There's an emphasis of
[1:18:11]
matter paragraph within the audit
[1:18:13]
opinion and there's also some um just
[1:18:16]
some documents or uh um verbiage within
[1:18:19]
the report about what that was for.
[1:18:22]
Other than that, your debt was about the
[1:18:23]
same. You had some new debt. You had
[1:18:24]
some new um bans that um were issued
[1:18:28]
school projects, roadway projects,
[1:18:31]
various other capital projects
[1:18:32]
throughout the town. Um there were some
[1:18:34]
golf mowers. Besides that, there wasn't
[1:18:37]
too much going on with debt payments
[1:18:39]
looked okay. Your um budget is actually
[1:18:43]
for your debt payments was about 6%. We
[1:18:46]
like to see that somewhere between 5 and
[1:18:47]
10%. So you're right in line with what
[1:18:49]
that percentage should be. Um that
[1:18:52]
basically means you're keeping up with
[1:18:53]
your capital. You're not letting your
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infrastructure fall apart. Um so so
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you're you're right where you have been.
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And then right at the beginning of the
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report is kind of our opinion. That's
[1:19:05]
the only the three or four pages that we
[1:19:07]
own in this whole report. The rest of it
[1:19:09]
all belongs to you. But beyond that,
[1:19:11]
there's the management discussion and
[1:19:12]
analysis. If you just want to get an
[1:19:15]
understanding of what happened with the
[1:19:17]
town's finances, read that section. It
[1:19:20]
talks about what the increases were,
[1:19:22]
what the decreases were, why they were
[1:19:24]
happening, any special items that
[1:19:26]
happened. It has a breakout of your
[1:19:27]
capital asset activity, additions,
[1:19:30]
disposals. It has the information of
[1:19:32]
what's happened to your debt, and it
[1:19:34]
talks about all the different basis of
[1:19:35]
accounting that we just went through.
[1:19:38]
Does anybody have any questions?
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>> Council Bara,
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>> thank you. Uh thank you so much and
[1:19:45]
appreciate the succinct explanation on a
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very long report. I have one quick
[1:19:50]
question. Um the statistical section
[1:19:53]
which is so helpful.
[1:19:56]
>> Um
[1:19:57]
on page 162 you have the operating
[1:20:00]
indicators by function and program. I'm
[1:20:03]
curious where you or how you gather that
[1:20:07]
information because I see that there's
[1:20:09]
some in 2024 there's some missing
[1:20:11]
figures for a couple of the departments.
[1:20:13]
So, I'm just curious like how do you how are you getting like the number of
[1:20:18]
false alarms and the number of
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you know like
[1:20:24]
fire hydrants that are in service or out
[1:20:26]
of service.
[1:20:27]
>> So, some of it may come from the town
[1:20:29]
directly. Some of it comes from maybe an
[1:20:31]
annual report or some other
[1:20:33]
documentation we receive during the
[1:20:35]
audit. If there's specific numbers, we
[1:20:37]
can get to, you know, you where they
[1:20:39]
came from, but they come from different
[1:20:42]
sources depending on what it is.
[1:20:46]
>> Okay. Um All right. I think that
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>> miles of public road looks like it
[1:20:50]
stayed the same,
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>> right? Well, that's good. But you never
[1:20:53]
we sometimes do get some new streets
[1:20:55]
once in a while. Um Okay. Uh I think
[1:20:57]
that answers my questions for now. I I
[1:20:59]
may follow up with Mike after. Thank
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you.
[1:21:03]
>> Thank you, President.
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>> Any councelor rounds?
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>> I I just want to There's a lot of great
[1:21:08]
information here and thank you for your
[1:21:10]
presentation this evening, the concise
[1:21:13]
um overview. I just want to make sure
[1:21:15]
that we will have opportunities to
[1:21:17]
address them for questions when we have
[1:21:20]
more time to be able to read through.
[1:21:22]
>> Absolutely. Yes. if if you wouldn't mind
[1:21:25]
um
[1:21:27]
uh if we had questions following this
[1:21:30]
meeting if we could follow up with you.
[1:21:32]
>> Absolutely. We are always available.
[1:21:33]
Yes.
[1:21:33]
>> I know you've always been helpful in the
[1:21:35]
various places I've interacted with you
[1:21:37]
guys before. So, um I appreciate that.
[1:21:41]
>> Thank you.
[1:21:41]
counselor.
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>> Um I just want to point to a couple of
[1:21:46]
things. You mentioned a $10 million
[1:21:48]
revenue surplus or in excess of forecast
[1:21:52]
revenues that represents about a 6%
[1:21:56]
um over predicted. Is that in line with
[1:22:00]
where you would want things to be? I
[1:22:03]
know that um we have to be conservative.
[1:22:07]
Uh but were we too conservative? Were we
[1:22:10]
just right conservative? Uh where are we
[1:22:12]
in comparison with other towns and as
[1:22:14]
far as a revenue surplus?
[1:22:16]
>> Sure. Um, well, for motor vehicle, you
[1:22:19]
want to be conservative, right? Because
[1:22:20]
we just don't know, right? There's no
[1:22:21]
sort of guarantee there. If you're
[1:22:23]
conservative in your revenue budgets and
[1:22:25]
you get you take in more than you
[1:22:27]
planned, it drops to free cash. You can
[1:22:29]
appropriate that and you can use it. If
[1:22:31]
you go the other way and you're not
[1:22:32]
conservative enough, you don't you have
[1:22:34]
a deficit, you're going to have to raise
[1:22:36]
that the next year. So, we like to see
[1:22:38]
conservative
[1:22:40]
Oh, yep. Sure. Um, I'll just repeat that
[1:22:42]
quickly. If you're conservative and you
[1:22:45]
have a revenue surplus, it drops to free
[1:22:47]
cash and you can appropriate that money.
[1:22:49]
If you are not conservative enough and
[1:22:51]
you have a revenue deficit, you are
[1:22:52]
required to raise that in the next
[1:22:54]
fiscal year. So, it would impact future
[1:22:56]
fiscal years. So, we do want to see
[1:22:58]
conservative um real estate really you
[1:23:01]
are budgeting for that that you're going
[1:23:03]
to collect 100%. That is just timing.
[1:23:06]
So, if real estate if you saw a deficit
[1:23:09]
there, you're going to get your money
[1:23:10]
for real estate. you're gonna, you know,
[1:23:12]
you have means to be able to collect
[1:23:13]
that. So, we really want to see
[1:23:15]
conservativeness in um investment
[1:23:18]
earnings because that can go up or down
[1:23:20]
depending on how much cash you have,
[1:23:21]
depending on the markets and and so
[1:23:23]
forth. U motor vehicle, I mentioned you
[1:23:26]
want to be conservative, permits, things
[1:23:27]
like that. So, there's nothing there
[1:23:30]
that looked out of line. I think
[1:23:31]
investment earnings have been very very
[1:23:33]
strong. Motor vehicle collections have
[1:23:35]
continued to be very, very strong. So,
[1:23:37]
we are seeing surpluses in most
[1:23:38]
communities.
[1:23:40]
>> Thank you. Thank you. The other thing I
[1:23:41]
wanted to point out, you mentioned $2.5
[1:23:43]
million in operational surplus, which
[1:23:46]
represents about a 1.4%
[1:23:49]
operational surplus over what was
[1:23:50]
budgeted. Um, I always, you know, when I
[1:23:54]
was a town administrator, I would always
[1:23:56]
try to look for free cash to be
[1:23:59]
generated from revenue surplus as well
[1:24:02]
as operational surplus. And I'd try to
[1:24:04]
get to a a 5050 situation. Here, we're
[1:24:08]
not getting that. And I think it's
[1:24:10]
because we budget we're budgeting tight.
[1:24:12]
But um is this 1.4 operational
[1:24:16]
percent operational surplus in line with
[1:24:19]
what you're seeing with other
[1:24:20]
communities?
[1:24:22]
>> I'll answer that. There's differences.
[1:24:24]
Some communities are very very tight
[1:24:26]
budgets and you have almost nothing
[1:24:27]
turned back. Those departments needed
[1:24:29]
that much money to run the operations.
[1:24:33]
You'll they use it sort of as a means to
[1:24:35]
generate free cash. they expect to turn
[1:24:38]
back money
[1:24:40]
education you don't really see much turn
[1:24:41]
back in education um but it's this money
[1:24:46]
generally comes from the town side
[1:24:49]
because the schools need to keep it or
[1:24:53]
we'll find something to do within that
[1:24:55]
fiscal year so that they don't
[1:24:57]
generational circle that's fine but but
[1:25:01]
um you know I I I think that this shows
[1:25:05]
that there's good management here of on
[1:25:07]
the operational side.
[1:25:09]
>> We want to make sure that you're that
[1:25:10]
you have controls in place that you're
[1:25:12]
not overspending. That what you voted
[1:25:14]
for the budget is what's in your general
[1:25:16]
ledger and that there is a way to
[1:25:17]
prevent people from overspending at the
[1:25:19]
end of the year. You know what happens
[1:25:20]
at the end of the fiscal year. It can
[1:25:22]
get very very tight. You may have to
[1:25:24]
make some adjustments and transfers. We check to make sure that you're voting
[1:25:28]
everything. What was voted is in the
[1:25:30]
reports and you're not overspending. But
[1:25:32]
as far as the right amount of money to
[1:25:34]
turn back, it's varies from community to
[1:25:36]
community.
[1:25:38]
>> My last thing is a a little bit of an
[1:25:41]
opportunity for you guys to basically describe all the work you
[1:25:47]
do a little bit more than you do. We
[1:25:49]
come in, you know, we we see you for
[1:25:52]
this half an hour. Um what's behind this
[1:25:56]
half an hour? How how often are you here
[1:25:59]
when you're doing the audit? How many
[1:26:00]
personnel are here? How many how many
[1:26:02]
weeks are involved in that?
[1:26:03]
>> I will say that's all her that's all
[1:26:05]
her.
[1:26:06]
>> Yeah, [laughter]
[1:26:06]
>> my job is to review and to sign. So,
[1:26:08]
Roina is going to give you the details
[1:26:09]
on that.
[1:26:09]
>> So, usually when we're here for our
[1:26:12]
planning, it's a week that we have
[1:26:13]
scheduled. Um that's just to be like
[1:26:16]
working here whether we're here for
[1:26:19]
three or four days or just a couple of
[1:26:20]
days. Um before we even come out, we
[1:26:24]
have planning that we need to do. We
[1:26:27]
complete on our end. Um we start to work
[1:26:30]
on our risk assessment. Um we start to
[1:26:33]
look at what what single audits need to
[1:26:35]
be audited and uh have there have been
[1:26:38]
any changes in personnel. Are there any
[1:26:40]
changes in the processes? Then we come
[1:26:42]
in and we start planning. So we start
[1:26:45]
doing our testing. We start saying what
[1:26:47]
can we look at now? Like Renee had said,
[1:26:48]
we look at your budget. That's one thing
[1:26:50]
we can do prior to the year end because
[1:26:53]
you voted it a year before. So we can
[1:26:56]
look at it. We can see where it's at. We
[1:26:58]
can look to see are there any lines that
[1:27:00]
right now look, you know, like they're
[1:27:02]
going to be overexpended. You have a
[1:27:04]
wonderful finance team. They take care
[1:27:06]
of it all. It's that's not, you know, a
[1:27:08]
question. But when we're going through,
[1:27:11]
we just need to do our due diligence,
[1:27:12]
right? We are opining on this. We have
[1:27:14]
to have a sense of comfort. We're not
[1:27:16]
testing 100% of transactions. We're
[1:27:18]
looking at the risks. So when we're here
[1:27:20]
in the spring, it's usually starting our
[1:27:22]
transaction testing, looking at journal
[1:27:24]
entries, looking at the detailed general
[1:27:26]
ledger, asking questions. Are you
[1:27:28]
reconciled with cash? Did you reconcile
[1:27:30]
it yesterday because you knew we were
[1:27:32]
coming out or have you been reconciling
[1:27:34]
it on a monthly basis? So these are the
[1:27:36]
things that help us plan our plan the
[1:27:38]
audit.
[1:27:40]
Then after when the town's close to
[1:27:42]
closing, which is typically October, we
[1:27:44]
come back out and that's when we take
[1:27:46]
the deep dive, roll up our sleeves,
[1:27:47]
start looking at the support, start
[1:27:49]
looking at the trial balance. What what
[1:27:51]
are these numbers? Are we getting the
[1:27:54]
proper support? We're looking at the
[1:27:55]
detailed general ledger. Are there any
[1:27:57]
journal entries that were recorded to
[1:27:59]
balance, to reconcile, to fix, to
[1:28:02]
correct? Um, we have a separate data
[1:28:05]
service center that runs reports,
[1:28:07]
analytical reports for us that helps us
[1:28:09]
to identify those. We're, like I said,
[1:28:12]
we're we're making selections that are
[1:28:15]
unpredictability
[1:28:16]
so that way there's surprises in what
[1:28:18]
we're selecting. But when we're out
[1:28:20]
here, we spend quite a bit of time.
[1:28:22]
We're we're sifting through bank
[1:28:23]
statements. We're sifting through
[1:28:25]
transactions. Um, we're we're looking at
[1:28:28]
the census data testing that came from
[1:28:30]
the actuary and testing those files to
[1:28:32]
make sure that that information has been
[1:28:35]
accurately reported. Uh, we're visiting
[1:28:37]
the retirement system to to put together
[1:28:40]
that report. So, we're testing the
[1:28:41]
census data there. We're testing against
[1:28:43]
the fair value of investments. We're
[1:28:45]
sending confirmations. So, there is a
[1:28:48]
lot that goes into these numbers. Can
[1:28:50]
tell you we know them inside out and
[1:28:52]
backwards by the time we're done. And we
[1:28:54]
have a very very good comfort level when
[1:28:57]
we put together this report. Any
[1:28:59]
questions that we have, Mike, Mark,
[1:29:02]
Christina, they've been great. We ask
[1:29:04]
for something, they get it to us right
[1:29:06]
away. I mean, you do have a very strong,
[1:29:08]
wonderful finance team here. Um, and
[1:29:11]
then after we leave the field, we're
[1:29:12]
just compiling. So, sometimes we're
[1:29:14]
waiting for some information, whether it
[1:29:16]
be an OPED valuation or just some odds
[1:29:18]
and ends. And that's when we're while
[1:29:21]
we're here, we're putting together this
[1:29:22]
report. But then at the end we're
[1:29:25]
looking at analytics. What were the
[1:29:27]
expectations? What did we think was
[1:29:30]
going to happen during our planning and
[1:29:32]
did that happen? Were there any
[1:29:34]
surprises? Um we send legal confirms.
[1:29:37]
Last year we learned about the legal se
[1:29:39]
settlement from Mike which had to go
[1:29:40]
into the FY24 financial statements
[1:29:42]
because it happened in September. Um so
[1:29:45]
that's kind of what we do in the in on
[1:29:48]
the side. We're testing single audit and
[1:29:50]
we're, you know, so there's a lot that
[1:29:51]
goes into it. Even if you only see us
[1:29:53]
here a few weeks out of the year,
[1:29:55]
there's always someone working, someone
[1:29:58]
getting this closer to being issued.
[1:30:00]
>> Thank you for for taking the time to
[1:30:02]
explain that. I think it's important for
[1:30:04]
the public to know
[1:30:06]
um that this is not prefuncter what you
[1:30:10]
do that this is a deep dive and a very
[1:30:14]
analytical
[1:30:16]
um review of of the town's financial
[1:30:20]
systems and its performance.
[1:30:23]
And that should be reassuring to the
[1:30:25]
public because you are independent. You
[1:30:28]
uh you know you are not employees of the
[1:30:31]
town of Bantry. you're looking
[1:30:33]
independently and your professional
[1:30:35]
reputation and uh is tied to what you
[1:30:40]
report. So you would jeopardize your
[1:30:42]
career if you've sugarcoated anything in
[1:30:45]
here. Um and this is just one part. Then
[1:30:50]
there's a department of revenue who
[1:30:51]
looks at what we do as well. And then
[1:30:54]
there are the internal controls that we
[1:30:56]
put on ourselves.
[1:30:58]
So it's important. I I think I really
[1:31:01]
appreciate you taking the time to just give everyone an idea of of the
[1:31:07]
thoroughess of of your review. I
[1:31:09]
appreciate it. Are there any other
[1:31:11]
questions from the council? Well, thank
[1:31:14]
you very much for your report. I'm sure
[1:31:16]
that there will be followup. Um and
[1:31:18]
thank you for for the concise way in
[1:31:21]
which you explained it.
[1:31:22]
>> Of course. Thank you very much.
[1:31:24]
Appreciate it.
[1:31:24]
>> Thank you.
[1:31:29]
Okay,
[1:31:31]
I believe we are now moving to new
[1:31:34]
business.
[1:31:35]
Um,
[1:31:38]
there's a call, there's a placeholder
[1:31:41]
for October 6, 2026. No action required
[1:31:44]
this evening. [snorts] Um, are we
[1:31:47]
referring these to committees or we're
[1:31:49]
just
[1:31:50]
>> reading them in?
[1:31:50]
>> Just to let you just to let you know,
[1:31:52]
it'll be voted next meeting.
[1:31:54]
>> So, we'll have a call to the election at our next meeting. Uh, our next
[1:31:59]
meeting is scheduled um for Tuesday,
[1:32:02]
October 6, 2026 at 7:30 p.m. Thank you
[1:32:07]
to Bcam for televising tonight. Bill
[1:32:09]
Nem, Jerry Kak, and Dave Maybrook. Uh,
[1:32:12]
at this point, I will entertain a motion
[1:32:14]
to adjurnn.
[1:32:15]
>> Motion to adjurnn.
[1:32:16]
>> Second.
[1:32:17]
>> Motion's been made and seconded. All
[1:32:18]
those in favor? I,
[1:32:20]
>> it's a unanimous good night.