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[1:59]
Mhm.
[2:13]
» Recording in progress.
>> Like the we're welcome everybody to the
[2:17]
rescheduled Public Works Committee
meeting for Tuesday, June 9th, 2026. Can
[2:23]
we have roll call, please?
[2:26]
» Alderwoman Tyus.
>> Here.
[2:28]
» Alderwoman Gould is absent. Alderman
Meyer.
[2:31]
» Here.
>> Alderman Lackmiller.
[2:33]
» Here.
>> Move on to approval of the agenda. Is it
[2:37]
any objection to approval by
acclamation?
[2:40]
Approved by acclamation. Moving on to
citizen comment.
[2:44]
Anybody in the audience wish to speak
for 3 minutes? Anyone online, Octavia?
[2:49]
» None online.
>> On to reports of committee chairs.
[2:54]
All I have is I'd just like to thank
committee members and staff for
[2:58]
uh allowing me to reschedule meeting
from Thursday to Tuesday.
[3:02]
Thank you very much.
Alderwoman Tyus?
[3:05]
» No report.
>> Alderwoman Meyer? Or Alderman Meyer?
[3:09]
» No report.
>> Move on to department and commission
[3:13]
reports. Uh let's start with Public
Works, Dan.
[3:27]
» Uh here's our miscellaneous projects
that we have that we typically bring to
[3:31]
you. So, midnight road, uh we did
replace that failed modem on the
[3:35]
Brentwood side. I've been checking it
and everything's been working. I don't
[3:39]
know if anybody's said anything to you
folks as far as
[3:43]
the way it works.
I know I can adjust the uh timing
[3:46]
between them. Right now, I believe it's
set at 25 seconds. Um Um, got the
[3:50]
passive buttons. Those work. It shows
that they work. So, if you break the
[3:53]
radar beam, it'll trigger the lights if
a person breaks that beam.
[3:58]
Um, the only thing I haven't checked,
but I had staff check, were the lights
[4:01]
on top. You know, if you cover it or it
senses that there's low lighting levels
[4:06]
and the button's pressed, it's supposed
to aim the beam across the crosswalk.
[4:09]
So, I haven't seen it for myself, but
I'm told it all works.
[4:13]
Uh, and then we'll just keep monitoring
that. So, so far everything is working
[4:17]
the way it should. Um, and I can
actually track like the peaks, like how
[4:21]
many crossings there are per hour. You
know, usually I see because it's good
[4:25]
weather or was good weather at times,
like over 100 crossings in an hour. It's
[4:30]
usually peaked at like 7:00 to 8:00 a.m.
I guess people are walking to the park.
[4:34]
That one's done. Uh, 2832 2828 Manderly,
that's the uh,
[4:39]
uh, retaining wall that's between those
two properties. I spoke with the
[4:42]
contractor, he's still looking at like
stone-like materials. The resident when
[4:47]
I spoke with her, they actually have
stone in the backyard. It's like
[4:51]
quarried stone with mortar, which is not
what I'm proposing. Just because that's
[4:56]
way more labor and I can't guarantee
it's not going to shift in time versus
[5:01]
what we'd propose is the Versa-Lok with
the straps that are keyed in
[5:04]
horizontally and compacted. So, it's got
something to pull, you know, if it tries
[5:08]
to pull its way over overturn, it's
creating friction and tension with those
[5:12]
straps and it should be fine.
So,
[5:16]
I don't think that's going to change. I
think it's going to be some sort of
[5:19]
machine block with straps. It's going to
have to be just because it's more
[5:23]
stable.
Um, so I should be able to figure that
[5:26]
one out here shortly.
Uh, Manchester Road, again, it's that
[5:30]
cabinet that's
causing the biggest delay. That's over
[5:33]
on the north side, just east of Dorothy.
It's a stainless steel cabinet that was
[5:37]
damaged. A new one's being rebuilt. It
should
[5:40]
show up any day now here in June.
And once we have that, then the
[5:43]
contractor will connect it and then
it'll restore, I believe it's like six
[5:47]
lights that they'll uh, restore service
to.
[5:51]
The four lights that weren't working
over by what used to be Circle K, those
[5:54]
are working. So, that's got new conduit
and wiring. Those are done. And there's
[5:58]
two more damaged lights. One was near
the former
[6:03]
Well, actually not former, it's the
self-storage building, and then the
[6:05]
other's near the Rock Church. Those are
here in St. Louis. It's just a matter of
[6:10]
the electrician going out and putting
them on the pedestal and getting those
[6:14]
working. So, at least we have the
material, and I'm hopeful that those
[6:17]
will be done in June as well.
Uh Hampton Creek, the MSD sewer relief
[6:22]
project, I did get an update from MSD.
They're actually pushing it back. Before
[6:27]
it was August-September of '26, now
they're saying that I should reach out
[6:32]
to them at the end of '26, it's looking
like early '27.
[6:35]
So, I guess that's good news. It's no
disruption for us for several more
[6:40]
months.
Uh the Webster Groves trunk sanitary
[6:43]
relief phase two, I know Bates is the
contractor that's supposed to be doing
[6:47]
the work. I don't know a start date. I
had reached out to MSD on that. I did
[6:51]
not hear back when that start date is,
but I know that one they actually have a
[6:55]
contractor ready to do
the work. There's not that much in
[6:59]
Brentwood, but I know that it affects
the Arboretum area, like south of the
[7:03]
Metro garage.
Uh the temporary parking lot on the
[7:06]
north side of Manchester Road, we did
grade portions, you know, north and
[7:11]
south um
inlets on that property on the east
[7:16]
side. We do need to go back out there
hopefully tomorrow, you know, it's dried
[7:20]
out enough, but grade back another 8 to
10 ft, remove that gravel, then that'll
[7:25]
be green space, and then it'll be
sodded. Um you know, work the slope
[7:29]
there. And then we've got a trial area
picked out. We're going to apply the
[7:33]
spray for the dust control. I think
that's probably the better of the two
[7:38]
when I really looked at the safety data
sheets. The granular one, when you
[7:43]
spread it like fertilizer pellets, then
you wet it, but then you have to
[7:46]
mechanically work it back and forth with
a rake and it forms like a gel and then
[7:51]
you're not supposed to drive on it for
like 12 hours. versus the spray, you
[7:55]
dilute it, mix up your concentration,
spray it.
[7:59]
It dries out and if it's as hot as it is
now, I mean, 90° weather or so,
[8:04]
I would think it'd dry in an hour or so
and
[8:07]
it should hold it. You know, they've got
some YouTube videos I'll probably post
[8:10]
those next time, but um it shows them
driving on a gravel road after they put
[8:15]
the liquid glue down and it holds the
rock from creating dust clouds.
[8:21]
So, that we're going to try out. Um
8837 White, we're actually done with
[8:26]
that project. So, we removed the um
sidewalk that was low and that little
[8:30]
bit of driveway there, raised that up a
good 6 to 7 in
[8:35]
at the low point. And I've been out
there a couple times after it's rained
[8:38]
and I do not see water of any
significance. There's a little bit that
[8:42]
puddles, but nothing like it was, you
know, several inches. This under a heavy
[8:46]
rain event, there's very little like you
would expect and it goes away.
[8:51]
So, I know we've spoken with the
property owner, he's pleased with it and
[8:54]
he said if he saw anything, you know,
out of the ordinary, he would send us
[8:57]
information on it. So,
I would think no news is good news in
[9:01]
that instance. And then we just threw in
some pictures of it, you know,
[9:05]
uh before or actually a during and then
an after. We have a before, but I just
[9:09]
thought it was kind of neat seeing how
much it had changed.
[9:13]
And I don't know if you have any
questions on these or anything else
[9:17]
public works.
>> Hensley.
[9:23]
Thank you, sorry, but um thank you on
McKnight. I have not noticed it flashing
[9:26]
randomly uh at times and have not heard
complaints about it, which probably
[9:29]
means it's working. Uh and then on the
8837 White, I have not spoken to the
[9:34]
actual homeowner there, but to the home
just to the west where a lot of the
[9:37]
sidewalk in front of their home was
done. They are very pleased. It does
[9:40]
pool a little in the street but not on
the sidewalk.
[9:44]
Uh and so I it's a a great um project.
So, thanks to your team for doing that.
[9:48]
» Okay. Thanks.
And um last week we had a tree fall on
[9:53]
uh Salem
>> Mhm.
[9:55]
» and it took out the wiring that uh
you've been you worked over many months
[9:59]
to get Amarin there put up for the
street lighting.
[10:03]
Um do we need to report that or do you
think they already know?
[10:06]
» I'll go ahead and report it. I know they
were out there. They took care of the
[10:10]
wiring but took care of it meaning they
just cut it so that Davey could remove
[10:14]
or at least cut up a portion of the tree
that was blocking the road.
[10:17]
» Yeah.
Cuz it's a line that feeds those three
[10:19]
lights and so now they're
>> Yeah, cuz I believe they're in series
[10:22]
like connected at the north end and they
work their way south. So, if you break
[10:25]
that chain
>> A link.
[10:27]
» that one won't work.
[10:30]
» Thanks.
>> Okay. Yeah, I I know the light number
[10:33]
cuz I've reported it multiple times. So,
I'll just report it back to them and see
[10:36]
what they say.
>> Thank you.
[10:38]
» Okay. Thanks.
>> And
[10:41]
move on to reports from planning and
development
[10:45]
department. Whitney.
[10:55]
» Good evening. Um for the month of May,
there were 55 new code enforcement cases
[11:01]
and 136 inspections.
Building permits received were 210
[11:07]
new permits and there were 978
inspections.
[11:12]
Um the planning and zoning commission is
scheduled for tomorrow night, Wednesday,
[11:17]
um to review continue reviewing the town
home development at 8815 Match.
[11:23]
Um
if they make a recommendation that
[11:26]
night, which I am anticipating, then it
would be at the July 20th meeting
[11:32]
um at the Board of Aldermen.
Business license renewals today at the
[11:37]
end of
May, there were 589 active licenses and
[11:42]
two were issued that week and 24 waiting
payments
[11:46]
with 19
renewing and there has been
[11:50]
approximately 59 expired business
license that we are continuing to follow
[11:55]
up with.
Contractor registrations are also due at
[11:59]
» I have a question. Could you explain
what you mean by following up so that
[12:03]
the committee
>> Well, we're having the inspectors go out
[12:05]
to verify that businesses are still
open.
[12:08]
We have called, we had sent out
postcards, we've
[12:13]
emails. So, the next step is we're going
around to check if I there check make
[12:18]
sure they're still open and those that
are will follow up with zoning violation
[12:23]
letters.
Oh.
[12:25]
Contractor
registrations,
[12:28]
there were 100 1,684
contractor credentials issued by the end
[12:35]
of May
with two issued that last week 15 issued
[12:40]
that last week and two in the renewal
process and two waiting payments.
[12:45]
Staff attended the Ladue Quarry project
presentation at the Zoning and Planning
[12:52]
Commission.
They call it commission at the Ladue
[12:55]
City Hall
last Wednesday
[13:00]
or not last Wednesday
[13:04]
Okay, last Wednesday. Um
at 4:00 p.m. to discuss where they just
[13:10]
presented the topic and it's continuing.
We asked that staff be
[13:14]
invited to any further meetings. The
project includes 11 single-family homes
[13:20]
at the southwest corner of the property
as as from Old Warson Road
[13:26]
31 single-family homes on the north of
Deer Creek, and a mixed-use building
[13:31]
with up to 235 apartments and 9,000
square feet of commercial space.
[13:36]
Um
this is the property surrounding Rock
[13:39]
Hill Quarry's landfill at McKnight and
Old Warson Road.
[13:45]
The architectural review board is
scheduled for June 18th to review two
[13:49]
projects. We have the return of 2002
South Brentwood Boulevard
[13:54]
for the modification to the exterior
building materials.
[13:58]
And 70 York Drive, they're doing a 965
square foot room addition that is
[14:04]
visible from Middlesex Drive and York
Drive.
[14:08]
Um we did issue the RFP for the nuisance
abatement um in May 21st, and so the
[14:14]
responses are due on the 15th.
So we'll bring that back to you
[14:19]
as well.
We have received two applications for
[14:22]
the
July um
[14:25]
planning and zoning commission so far.
The June um Board of Adjustment was
[14:30]
canceled due to incomplete applications
and a lack of quorum. So they are one I
[14:36]
know is working towards revising their
application for the July
[14:41]
25th meeting.
Or 23rd, I think.
[14:46]
So
we will
[14:48]
let you know when that's completed and
notices will be sent out for those.
[14:54]
» It is
Any questions for Whitney?
[14:57]
All right, thank you, Whitney.
[15:01]
Move on to Parks and
Recreation, Eric.
[15:11]
» Uh good evening. Just a couple things uh
tonight. The first is uh
[15:15]
that staff that with the business
manager of the Movement Center uh in
[15:19]
Hanley Industrial Court.
Uh they had they have a need to have
[15:23]
maybe utilize some parking. They their
parking lot's not big enough for their
[15:27]
staff. So, they're wondering if they
could
[15:30]
have up to five parking spaces in the
Hanley Park parking lot. Uh it's
[15:36]
interesting time for this mainly because
we're going to be going into
[15:39]
construction of that parking lot and the
and the the pavilion here and hopefully
[15:45]
by the end of the year and then we can
maybe work out a parking arrangement
[15:49]
with them so that our users can use
their parking lot during construction.
[15:53]
And then once construction's over, we
can kind of revisit if we feel like it's
[15:56]
still needed.
Uh so, if the committee is open to it,
[16:01]
what I would do is I'd start working on
a MOU
[16:05]
and would bring it back to this
committee for review and discussion.
[16:11]
» Um
I guess a show of our
[16:14]
I guess voice. All in favor of letting
Eric explore the MOU, say I.
[16:20]
» I.
>> I.
[16:21]
» Great. Thank you.
Uh the other thing is
[16:26]
I don't know if you know our marketing
person Sophie. She came
[16:29]
bounding in my office one day all
excited cuz she saw something about Bird
[16:32]
City, Missouri and she really she's the
one who's taking all our photos for
[16:37]
social media. If you notice, she loves
birds.
[16:40]
And so, she really thinks this is a
wonderful opportunity for the city.
[16:45]
As we mentioned, it's part of the Bird
City network. It's really a program that
[16:49]
really wants cities to kind of improve
habitats
[16:53]
sustainable promote sustainability and
conservation things like that. In
[16:57]
looking at the application, we've
already done most of that
[17:01]
primarily the park and park and other
things we're doing throughout the city
[17:05]
even going back a couple years when we
changed the light levels reduced the
[17:10]
Kelvins on the light levels things like
that have already put us in position
[17:13]
where we're probably uh get this very
easily. It's a free program.
[17:18]
Uh it's something that we think would be
kind of a nice feather in the cap of the
[17:22]
city.
Uh pardon the pun. And uh right now
[17:26]
there's only one bird sanctuary in city
St. Louis. So, uh we'd like to
[17:31]
we're moving forward to try to do that.
And then and uh we'll uh be excited when
[17:35]
we can get that moving. So.
Next is the Brentwood Days theme. Uh we
[17:40]
could talk to last month or the month
before about possible themes for for
[17:44]
Brentwood Days and and also talking
about what we could do for uh America's
[17:48]
250th uh celebration. And we talked
about it in our Brentwood Days committee
[17:52]
and we really thought doing something
for America 250 in September uh would be
[17:57]
a little bit late spending most of this
stuff is happening in June and July. So,
[18:02]
uh it was our recommendation not to do
that. And in in talking with staff and
[18:06]
the committee uh that we talked about
the possibility of the fact that it is
[18:11]
the 100th the centennial of Route 66.
And Route 66 went through the city of
[18:15]
Brentwood uh in 1926 when it first
opened uh until it re-routed in 1932 and
[18:21]
and bypassed Brentwood. But, uh
interestingly enough, the only surviving
[18:26]
landmark from that period is Carl's
Drive-In. And so, we thought it'd be
[18:29]
kind of fun to kind of re-route the
parade this year, go right by Carl's
[18:32]
Drive-In, get them to kind of be a part
of the this parade aspect of it. And
[18:37]
we're getting kind of excited about
that. So, uh it'd be our recommendation
[18:40]
to move forward with this Route 66 uh
theme for this year's Brentwood Days.
[18:46]
» Yes or no from us?
>> Yeah, as long as you guys are okay with
[18:48]
it.
>> We're all in favor of Eric's
[18:52]
proposal.
>> Great.
[18:54]
» Sounds creative. Thank you.
>> Very good.
[18:56]
» Well, that came from uh Jesse, our he's
my historian in in my department. He's
[19:00]
like, you know, it's the centennial. And
And he's the one who actually did the
[19:03]
research on on Carl's. So,
uh last is Urban Chestnut. Uh this is
[19:07]
something again I'm very excited about.
Um
[19:11]
and something we've talked about in the
past of trying to see if there's a a
[19:14]
partnership we could have in the in this
in the park. One to activate the park,
[19:19]
two to maybe help bring in more people,
and three
[19:22]
uh something that might be mutually
beneficial for both uh the vendor and
[19:26]
the city. And so uh after the Wine
Whiskey Walk, Urban Chestnut actually
[19:31]
contacted us to say, "Hey, we're really
interested in doing something with the
[19:35]
city of Brentwood, and especially in
Brentwood Park." And we talked briefly
[19:38]
about the RFP and and how we put that
out, and they're not quite to that part,
[19:43]
but they want to kind of look at maybe a
proof of concept. And so they have kind
[19:47]
of a mobile they call a beer garden.
It's basically a mobile tap, uh four or
[19:51]
five taps on it. And and they thought
about the idea of maybe kind of doing
[19:55]
that proof of concept uh in the summer
this time uh this year. And so we're we
[20:00]
talked
Tuesday, Monday.
[20:02]
Today's Tuesday, Monday. Uh and they're
looking maybe to do Wednesdays in July.
[20:07]
It is we looked at Placer, it is one of
our lowest times for for people, and
[20:12]
they thought that'd be interesting case
study see, "Hey, we know what the what
[20:16]
the uh attendance is on a Wednesday.
Let's see if it builds up for you guys
[20:20]
based on this."
Uh and we talked about a lot of things
[20:23]
and and how this could lead to hopefully
maybe that larger partnership that we
[20:26]
talked about in the RFP. Uh but first
for this year, we talked about what what
[20:30]
would look like, and it would be they
they agreed to uh pay that $100 fee
[20:36]
that's outlined in our food truck
policy. So they basically rent a truck
[20:39]
food truck space for the night.
Uh and in addition, they they what
[20:43]
they'd have is a program where they kind
of introduce a beer draft or a tap
[20:49]
handle. So they actually take one of
their current beers, and they basically
[20:52]
call it the Brentwood Park beer.
And they're willing to donate 10% of the
[20:56]
proceeds of every beer poured in
Brentwood Park to the Brentwood Park um
[21:00]
parks maintenance and liquidity fund.
And so we see that as a benefit as well
[21:05]
that we can build up that fund that
we're already building, but it's a way
[21:08]
to build that up even more. So, uh
this is something we're real excited
[21:12]
about to see what this would be. Uh they
talked about that for that the month
[21:17]
they they want to go into August, too,
but we're going to start with July. We
[21:19]
need to talk about it tonight to make
sure it's on the board agenda for their
[21:22]
special use permit. Uh but they're
talking about maybe one night they just
[21:25]
come out and and see what happens.
Another night they might do bingo or
[21:29]
they might do trivia. And then we talked
about maybe one night we do something
[21:33]
that also gets the kids involved. So,
face painter, balloon artist, something
[21:36]
like that, something small that we can
add to it. And so,
[21:39]
a way again, it's another way to kind of
activate the park. It's a way to kind of
[21:43]
see if this partnership, uh this type of
arrangement would be something that
[21:47]
would be beneficial for the city.
And uh so, we'd like to move forward
[21:51]
with that. And with your guys's
approval, we'll then
[21:54]
bring the special use permit to the
board meeting on Monday.
[22:01]
» Great. No, I think it's great. Really
fun. Now, if maybe we have our public
[22:04]
works meeting July on a Wednesday and
head over to the
[22:09]
head over to the park afterwards.
>> Yeah, short agenda, I'm sure.
[22:15]
Well, I think you
we're all in favor of it, Eric. So, uh I
[22:19]
just have one question. Who promotes it?
Do they or
[22:22]
» So, they they will will kind of will
co-promote. Uh they'll put some stuff on
[22:26]
their social media. We'll we'll share
it. Vice versa, we'll put some stuff on
[22:30]
our social media, they'll share it. They
have 147,000
[22:34]
members on their social media. So, they
they have a broad reach already. And so,
[22:39]
we have
I think we have close to 40 now. So,
[22:42]
we'll kind of hopefully piggyback on
each other and and be able to kind of
[22:46]
promote these things.
[22:52]
» We're moving to sustainability.
>> No report this month. Uh sustainability
[22:55]
meeting was canceled cuz of Memorial
Day. We'll be picking back up again in
[22:58]
June.
[23:01]
» Under consent agenda, once again, could
we approve the consent agenda by
[23:05]
acclamation?
Okay, it will be approved by
[23:08]
acclamation.
Moving on to old business, we have
[23:13]
sustainability dashboard.
This is you again, Eric?
[23:17]
» It is.
Uh we've talked about this a few months
[23:20]
now, and so I you know, I don't think I
have a whole lot more to add. Um I
[23:24]
apologize that we
how it kind of was late getting into the
[23:29]
packet last month. So,
uh nothing more to add than what we had
[23:32]
last month beyond the fact that it's
still something sustainability
[23:34]
commission is very interested in and
think it is uh
[23:39]
would be beneficial for the city and a
good use of the sustainability funds
[23:43]
that are budgeted each year for the
committee.
[23:47]
» Um I just have a quick question. I
So, how would this be launched? What
[23:52]
would it look like if somebody went to
our website?
[23:54]
» So, we would basically have a um
link on our sustainability page that
[23:59]
would take you to the dashboard page.
And with that, we can have everything in
[24:03]
there.
Uh in talking with them, there is a way
[24:06]
to kind of create look a lot like our
um
[24:10]
if you think about the Brentwood bound
page on the city's website, how you kind
[24:13]
of clicked on the Brentwood bound page
and it took you to something else that
[24:16]
looked
very much like our website. It'd be very
[24:19]
much like that. Almost like parks and
recreation have the same thing. So, it'd
[24:22]
be kind of a main link that takes you
there.
[24:26]
» They work specifically with someone
park staff to get
[24:29]
» They'd be uh primarily working with uh
Michelle and myself. Michelle because
[24:33]
she has all the uh
all the social media and and does all
[24:38]
the website work. And obviously, she and
I are the liaisons for sustainability,
[24:43]
so we partner on a lot of that stuff.
>> I went to Columbia's and
[24:47]
it was kind of confusing
because if you
[24:50]
went under government sustainability,
you got one page, and then you went
[24:53]
under uh I think residents and
sustainability, you got it something
[24:57]
completely different.
>> And And tell you exactly why Columbia
[25:02]
did that, but they basically
KLA has told us that it we can make it
[25:07]
mirror what our website looks like, and
so it almost be kind of the fact that
[25:11]
wherever where you go, it would take you
to that main page. They they talked
[25:15]
about if depending on how much we want
to put on to the dashboard is that you
[25:19]
can almost put all of your
sustainability items with on the website
[25:22]
that we currently have
on that dashboard page, so everything
[25:25]
for sustainability kind of lives right
there. So, you don't have to go to any
[25:29]
other places.
>> And I know the Sustainability Commission
[25:32]
has $20,000 to work with. So, in the
first year it looks like it comes out of
[25:36]
there, and then it becomes a uh
comes out of the budget of IT.
[25:41]
» It In something like that, we would
normally place it in the IT budget, yes.
[25:45]
Um and so, we'd obviously be working
with IT for that. Um if it's uh
[25:51]
So, yes, that's where it would come
>> Why would it not continue to come out of
[25:54]
the 20?
>> Yeah, we can.
[25:57]
» If it's being allocated, it should come
out of the 20.
[25:59]
» Sure. That's That's fine. I just with
the IT aspect of it, uh it's my mistake.
[26:04]
I apologize.
[26:07]
» Well,
with my ways and means hat on, I would
[26:10]
say let's leave it with sustainability
because that's why I every year we get
[26:14]
to the IT stuff, and I'm like, "There's
all this stuff that everyone says we
[26:17]
need, but what is it?" So,
>> I would I really support this, but I
[26:22]
think we ought to keep the the funds
tied to sustainability so that we know
[26:27]
where
>> That makes a lot of sense.
[26:28]
» comes from and where it's going. Um so,
that's my two cents. But, um I'll make a
[26:32]
motion to um approve uh
hiring KLA uh to create a sustainability
[26:39]
dashboard um
for the city of Brentwood.
[26:43]
» I second it.
>> Paula?
[26:48]
» Paula, I have a question on this. Um
does this need to go to the board since
[26:53]
it's
money and a contract or
[26:57]
can we just direct Eric to do this like
>> I think we can There are two ways to do
[27:03]
it. Um
We could report it under city
[27:07]
administrator report or we could put it
as a consent item. Either one works.
[27:12]
» But it does need to go to the board.
>> I I would
[27:17]
Does there prefer I mean under
>> Consent.
[27:20]
» Under the consent agenda on the next
Board of Aldermen meeting and we put all
[27:23]
of our other contracts.
>> Okay. So go to the July meeting.
[27:26]
» Okay.
>> Probably won't be ready for the June
[27:28]
meeting.
>> Any other questions before we vote?
[27:32]
All in favor say I.
>> I.
[27:34]
» I.
>> Anyone opposed?
[27:36]
All right, Eric. Much.
>> So that I'm clear, that was seconded by
[27:40]
Meyer.
>> Yes.
[27:41]
» Okay.
>> Uh looks like we got Dan, we got Douglas
[27:47]
Court and Mary Court solar lighting.
[27:58]
» Yeah, this is a carryover from before I
was
[28:02]
researching the different types of
lights and stuff. Um the ones that we
[28:06]
have right now First Light Technologies
was the one that did like Lavern Court.
[28:10]
So that's more of a rectangular box
shape that's mounted to a squarish post.
[28:16]
Uh the ones in York Village were Fond
Roche lighting. Those are no longer
[28:19]
made. I did confirm that. So they have a
a collector on the post. So it collects
[28:26]
vertically instead of on the top. The
ones I had originally submitted with the
[28:29]
two saw uh last time and this time
around has a squarish collector on top.
[28:35]
It's more of a modern look.
I did actually find one. I'll have to
[28:40]
put together a table just so that I can
keep these all straight, but I do have a
[28:45]
post top. I didn't include it in here
since I just found it in the last day or
[28:49]
so.
Um
[28:51]
these I can either get them like a
smoked
[28:54]
um finish, so it kind of diffuses the
light, or you can do clear panels, or
[28:59]
you can do a combination of one side
with diffused and the other clear.
[29:03]
Uh if you're worried about light
scattering around, these do actually
[29:06]
meet the criteria that we require for
lights, so I can get them in 2700K for
[29:11]
the color temperature. You can do 3000,
you can do 4000, but definitely 2700.
[29:17]
What I don't know, which I couldn't
figure out from just doing the research,
[29:20]
was the post looks like it's only a 3-in
steel post, so it's fairly slender. Um
[29:26]
it doesn't require a whole lot of post
to support the weight of the post top.
[29:30]
The post top's only 9 kilos, which is
roughly 20 lb. Um
[29:35]
but they are painted. You can get them
in black, you can get them in bronze
[29:38]
finish. I just thought these look more
like what you were looking for. And if
[29:43]
the post is only a 3-in and it grabs on
there, then I can cut that in about the
[29:48]
length of what we would usually supply,
which is probably 10 or 12 ft. Um so
[29:53]
I'll reach out to the sales people to
see how much these are and I can put it
[29:56]
together and either bring it back or put
in a weekly report or both, but I did
[30:01]
find something that has hope that it
would kind of match what we were talking
[30:06]
about at the last meeting.
I don't know why they discontinued it,
[30:09]
but Finero said they don't do that
anymore. They do the modern one and I
[30:13]
said, "Well, that's not what I need. I
need something more like this." This is
[30:17]
a different company, so I mean we might
just buy one to try it out and if it
[30:22]
works, great. We could continue forward
and put the other one in or
[30:26]
you know, if they don't work out, we
could put them somewhere on city
[30:29]
property. I'm sure that they would do
just fine, you know, by a building. What
[30:34]
I don't know is like the lumens in that
is great, but what I don't know is what
[30:37]
you really see when you're looking at it
from the street. How well does it light?
[30:42]
It does have profiles like the other
lights, so it'll show if it's more
[30:45]
circular, if it's more oblong. So, I
know you can pick different lighting
[30:48]
patterns depending on what the street's
like.
[30:51]
So.
>> I would probably since all the women go
[30:54]
to see in here and it's her ward like to
continue this at our next meeting with
[31:00]
the information you just found. I think
I really appreciate the deep dive you've
[31:04]
taken in trying to find one of these
things.
[31:06]
» It's weird like everybody is a more
modern. One of them looked like a golf
[31:09]
putter, so it was like turned over and
the light was underneath. I'm like
[31:12]
that's I don't think that's going to
work. But it was black. It was like
[31:16]
similar to this, but the top's
completely different.
[31:19]
» Yeah, let's carry it over for the next
meeting and uh
[31:23]
put that information together and we'll
do it in July.
[31:25]
» Okay.
All right, we'll bring it back.
[31:27]
» Thanks, Dan.
>> Yep.
[31:28]
» Move on to new business.
Uh looks like we've got
[31:32]
an RFQ for professional design.
Is that you, Eric, or Dan?
[31:37]
» Uh we did it together, so I did most of
it, but it was a team effort, so we
[31:43]
received 11 proposals as it states here
in the memo.
[31:46]
Um on May 14th
uh we had four people scoring them
[31:51]
including myself and Eric and two
others. Uh we reduced that group of 11
[31:56]
down to three and we brought those three
in, which would be H Design Group, Arch
[32:00]
Images, and KAI ADiNi for interviews. Uh
we did the interviews on May 27th, so
[32:05]
just recently, and of those three we
narrowed it down to two. Of the two, it
[32:11]
would uh H Design Group and KAI ADiNi.
And we did a comparison table uh between
[32:17]
the two of these to see how they fared.
So, that's in the memo. Um
[32:22]
what it boiled down to was H Design
provided more complete examples of what
[32:27]
they did recently and in um
the past as far as uh
[32:32]
public works facilities. They did have
complete references including the uh
[32:36]
costs. For some reason, the Kiadini, if
you look at it, um I know it was
[32:41]
attached, but the Kiadini one was
missing the construction cost for two
[32:45]
projects. They listed six, but of the
six, four of them there's no references.
[32:50]
I did track down Berkeley. Uh that was
provided, and they gave good
[32:55]
recommendation for Kiadini, so that was
good. Um I did talk to Kirkwood, even
[33:00]
though it was left blank. I knew the
person over there.
[33:03]
They said that the study they did with
Kiadini, they liked, but then when they
[33:07]
pushed forward into design and
construction, they actually switched
[33:12]
horses and went with Arch Images. So,
the Kirkwood facility will be completed
[33:17]
sometime here in 2026, but it's with a
different firm.
[33:20]
Um
Kiadini, you know, had really good
[33:22]
qualifications. They did the report for
us, if you recall, uh through Navigate.
[33:28]
They are based in Brentwood. They have
Horner & Shifrin as their new additional
[33:32]
partner on their design team.
But when we came down to the key
[33:37]
rationale that I listed here, you know,
H Design had more relevant and recent
[33:41]
public works experience, stronger more
complete references. Uh they do have
[33:46]
really good feedback from their
municipal clients. That I did check.
[33:50]
And just a more detailed explanation on
their program, their planning.
[33:55]
Uh they would do design charrettes for a
two or three-day process to really drill
[33:59]
down and figure out how equipment fits
in the building, future growth, things
[34:03]
of that nature. So,
you know, the recommendation that we had
[34:06]
as a group was that H Design would be
selected for professional design
[34:10]
services for the maintenance facility.
Um
[34:15]
I don't know if there's any questions.
[34:20]
» Need a recommendation to forward on to
the full board, uh selecting H Design
[34:24]
Group for the professional design
services
[34:30]
» I'll make that motion.
>> I'll second the motion.
[34:34]
» Uh
all in favor say I.
[34:38]
Anyone opposed?
Dan.
[34:41]
» Okay.
>> Move on to Let's Sing Her Paving and
[34:44]
Striping.
>> I think Alderwoman Tyson asked this this
[34:48]
in the past about you know, the the
striping is faded. I will agree with
[34:52]
that. Uh it was done probably in 2016
when the STP project was done on the
[34:58]
north side like the entire length. Um
we've done a few spot areas. Typically,
[35:03]
we just do the crosswalks and the stop
bars, but the longitudinal lines, you
[35:08]
know, the ones that run parallel, the
center line, and the outer shoulder
[35:11]
ones, we don't have equipment that can
do that great a distance. We did reach
[35:15]
out to McConnell since we use them and
they are part of a consortium. So, they
[35:20]
gave us a price broken down by the three
different jurisdictions. So, most of it
[35:26]
is under Brentwood.
As you go closer to Brentwood Boulevard,
[35:30]
it switches over to county ownership
like the turn arrows and stuff like
[35:33]
that. And then we've got Rock Hill where
you get to Bremerton and from Bremerton
[35:38]
to McKnight, the southern portion is
theirs and northern half is ours. So,
[35:42]
that's the convoluted part there.
Um our total would be $5,450
[35:49]
and that would take it from McKnight all
the way to Brentwood Boulevard, just our
[35:54]
portion. The county we reached out to
them, they said that they would just do
[35:57]
it themselves. So, in a few weeks
they'll paint there in by Brentwood
[36:01]
Boulevard, so that'll be brightened up.
Rock Hill, we reached out to them, we
[36:04]
have not heard back from them.
What I'd like if they agreed to was, you
[36:08]
know, we could do it and they would just
reimburse the $2,010.
[36:13]
If they don't agree, then I guess we
just do our portion. It'll look a little
[36:19]
I don't know what the proper terminology
would be, but it won't look fantastic as
[36:23]
you go Brentwood to McKnight because we
would only do one yellow bar the whole
[36:29]
distance. There's on the other half
would be the faded one and then their
[36:33]
white shoulder would be whatever it is.
So it'll, you know, there could be
[36:37]
complaints because well, why did you not
do the whole thing?
[36:41]
I would prefer that they just piggyback
on to our contract and just do it, but
[36:45]
if they don't, I don't think we want to
spend our money to do their piece.
[36:50]
Um, my recommendation be we definitely
do ours if they agree to do theirs with
[36:54]
ours, there could be cost savings.
Otherwise, they just going to have to do
[36:58]
it themselves.
[37:02]
» Um, this has been a repeated um
um
[37:06]
complaint, well, complaint is a strong
word from this particular resident, but
[37:09]
it's she's brought it up to me for
several years now, so
[37:12]
uh and and as soon as she said it, I
started looking. I'm like, oh, this
[37:15]
really looks terrible. You can barely
see the yellow line. It is so um I do
[37:19]
think we should move forward and
hopefully we can convince Rock Hill to
[37:22]
participate as well.
>> Um
[37:27]
I don't see I can you
uh road requirements, can you do just
[37:32]
one yellow line when it needs to be a
double? I mean
[37:35]
» I was going to say the paint folks can
do do one cuz that's what we did with
[37:39]
McKnight when it was resurfaced. They
were able to save the side that was
[37:42]
LaDue's of the double yellow
and they left that and they did a
[37:46]
perfect seam and then, you know, wait a
week or so for it to dry, then they did
[37:51]
the bright yellow. They I know LaDue
actually we partnered together. So
[37:55]
whenever that road gets striped, they
tell me typically what it costs
[38:00]
and we just reimburse them. It's just a
simple agreement.
[38:04]
Now, I'm hoping this is the same. It's
like if you wanted to, you know, you
[38:07]
could do just the yellow. Maybe that's
half that, maybe it's a thousand, but I
[38:10]
don't really want to spend a thousand
dollars of Brentwood money to do
[38:14]
somebody else's.
[38:19]
» Yeah.
>> All done at one time, right?
[38:23]
» Yeah, cuz your other option would be is
you could truncate it at Bremerton, just
[38:27]
do within our city limits, and then both
of them, and then going from Bremerton
[38:31]
west, nothing would be done for the
double yellow to make it consistent.
[38:38]
» Um is it a priority that it be done this
fiscal year?
[38:42]
Cuz we're we're dealing with the city
that probably
[38:47]
may not have the means to
all of a sudden this ranks as priority
[38:52]
unless there's public safety, a
compelling public safety
[38:57]
reason that that makes them rethink it
and make it a priority. So,
[39:03]
I think it's good to ask
City of Rock Hill to see if they could
[39:07]
participate on what the cost would be.
And that pop- possibly Dan would oversee
[39:12]
it so that all they need to do is
contribute. But if they could wait till
[39:17]
Give them more than one option for your
consideration.
[39:20]
» Well, and then I I guess
you um I think you sort of said like
[39:23]
maybe just ask if you could just see
from the contractor if it would be about
[39:29]
half that to just do the yellow line cuz
maybe the white line on the Rock Hill
[39:32]
side, that's less important to do, but
to have
[39:36]
uh half a yellow line from Bremerton to
McKnight just
[39:41]
doesn't seem to make sense, but maybe
they maybe if it is only a thousand
[39:44]
dollars, then that might be uh more
agreeable to Rock Hill either this
[39:48]
fiscal year or next.
>> Yeah, I'll ask him. I'll have him
[39:51]
subdivide that. It's like what's the
white, what's the yellow for just that
[39:54]
segment, and then maybe it is more
palatable to do just a thousand or
[39:57]
whatever it is.
>> And do we have time until the say the
[40:00]
July meeting to
>> Oh, we do. Yeah, there's no rush cuz he
[40:03]
said that, you know, the weather's
perfect for doing this. You know, we've
[40:06]
got still several more months to get
this done. And it won't take them long.
[40:10]
It'll just be like, you know, the state
and the county the way they paint it's
[40:13]
with a truck, and
it makes the paint perfectly, you know,
[40:17]
the the correct width and adds their
little reflectorized beads and
[40:21]
» Well, um
And the bid will still be good but
[40:25]
30 days?
>> We'll call and see if it needs to be
[40:27]
refreshed, but I can't see it varying a
huge amount, you know, it's through a
[40:31]
consortium. So, I mean, the price is
>> But I think like Nancy said, given Rock
[40:34]
Hill the option of
>> Mhm.
[40:36]
» this level or this level maybe they'll
go lower level and we can just get it
[40:41]
done.
Cuz you would just we would do the
[40:44]
county's portion too and they're pretty
open to just paying bills when they get
[40:47]
them.
>> The county's just going to do theirs at
[40:49]
their cost if the 660 goes away that was
in the breakdown.
[40:53]
Uh they have their own crews. They have
they just said we'll just take care of
[40:57]
it. Like just don't worry about ours,
just do yours. So, that made it easy.
[41:02]
So, really it's just coordination with
Rock Hill, you know, if they can do a
[41:06]
portion, great. If they say no, then we
need to figure out where to create a
[41:10]
» They'll do that and maybe take it up in
July.
[41:12]
» Okay.
>> then.
[41:14]
» Will do.
>> All right, that's it for new business.
[41:19]
We'll move into citizen comment.
There's nobody here. Anybody online?
[41:25]
All right,
without any other business, we'll
[41:28]
adjourn.
Thank you, guys.
[41:30]
» Thank you.