[0:00] This is the 24hour the same day or 24-hour comment I made to you.

[0:13] » I can't log in now.

[0:19] » Good Kate. >> All right, we're back. We're in public

[0:24] session. Uh,

[0:28] Steve, will you lead us in the pledge of allegiance?

[0:31] » Oh, that's awesome.

[0:34] I haven't done this in >> Oh, you didn't bring the

[0:37] » All right. Uh, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America

[0:44] and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with

[0:50] liberty and justice for all.

[0:55] Um, they sent me a whole flag and a pole.

[0:59] They didn't send they didn't send the pieces. I ordered I ordered the the or

[1:04] tried to order the spread of things to actually spread the flag out and have it

[1:07] look. >> Yeah.

[1:09] » Yeah. >> That is too funny.

[1:12] » Anyway, >> all right. Uh, is there a motion for the

[1:16] non-public and public meeting minutes of Yes.

[1:19] » Do not do August 13th. So, can I'll just explain really quick. Um, your August

[1:24] 13th meeting video did not have any sound. I made a mistake. So, I have to

[1:30] recreate it from scratch. I just haven't been able to finish it. So, I will have

[1:34] August 13th at the next meeting. >> So, we want to approve the

[1:38] » just the 20th. >> Just the 20th. All right.

[1:41] » Public the non-public and public meeting minutes for August 20th, 2026.

[1:46] » Sorry,

[1:49] » I'm having technical difficulties. There you go. Go ahead.

[1:52] » Okay. I make a motion to approve the non-public and public meeting minutes

[1:56] for August 20th, 2026. And do I want to do the ceiling of uh

[2:03] second? Um is there a second? >> Second.

[2:06] » Second by Scott. Uh any questions or comments on those minutes? Hearing none.

[2:12] All those in favor, please say I. >> I. Those opposed, abstensions, that's 4

[2:17] Z. >> Okay. I want to uh uh make a motion to

[2:22] seal the non-public meeting that it's August 20th, 2026

[2:27] uh because determined the developments of this information likely would affect

[2:32] adversely the reputation of any person other than a member of this board.

[2:36] » Is there a second? >> Second.

[2:38] » Second by Scott. >> All those in favor?

[2:42] » I those opposed extensions equals zero. Can I make a motion to uh approve the

[2:49] consent agenda for 9326? >> You have to read it.

[2:54] » I know. Yeah, I got it. So, uh uh for accounts payable special batch manifest

[3:00] 82526 accounts payable AC payment manifest 82726 accounts payable payment

[3:08] manifest 8.2726 2726 accounts payable payment manifest

[3:14] uh 9326 accounts payable AC payment manifest 9326

[3:19] accounts payable special payment manifest 9326

[3:24] payroll payment manifest dated 82726 removal of veterans credit from map lot

[3:30] 116-089 as it no longer qualifies removal of

[3:35] veterans credit from map lot 221-003 Three is no longer

[3:40] » second. Second by Scott. Uh any questions or comments or any single

[3:46] item? Anyone wants to take off the consent agenda?

[3:50] » All right. All those in favor please say I.

[3:53] » I. >> I. Those opposed. Extensions. Four zero.

[3:57] » Thank you.

[4:01] » Oops. >> I put it in front of you Sean too.

[4:11] All right.

[4:14] Close the window. >> Water and sewer update. Jeff,

[4:21] » I got you on camera a couple times. Jeff,

[4:23] » do you? >> Yeah. I had that camera set up for the

[4:27] conservation commission down that uh >> storm center.

[4:31] » Storm center by the culvert. >> Oh, yeah.

[4:33] » Yeah. >> Yeah. Open say water.

[4:36] I've got I've got you and your guy and I've got a a bear, a fox, and a bobcat.

[4:41] » Oh, nice. >> Yeah, I'd like to check that out.

[4:44] » That's funny. When I looked at the transfer station,

[4:47] » it's on the Conservation Commission um >> website Facebook page. I'm going to work

[4:52] with Kate on all that stuff on the >> There was an animal that crossed into a

[4:58] transfer station one night, too, but I can't tell what what it was. It was

[5:02] short, but >> it was there's even one of a there's a

[5:06] daddy long legs right on right on the camera while a raccoon two raccoons

[5:11] going up the tree. >> I had a bull moose down there. I was

[5:15] inside the storm center building and they came walking down. It was at night

[5:18] time. It was an emergency. We were down there and I was kind of pinned in the

[5:22] building for a while where I stood outside. I wasn't quite sure if I wanted

[5:25] to make the dash to my truck or not. >> Very good.

[5:28] » What do we All right. What do we got tonight? Um, we have a couple things,

[5:32] but the um I don't know if you want to start with your updates first.

[5:36] » If you want to get the >> Which one do you want me to do?

[5:40] » Um, probably the amendment to the Underwood contract. Do you have

[5:43] » Okay, that's in um Yep. I'll pull it up on the screen too. Um, so under number

[5:49] six is an engineering agreement amendment. There are two documents

[5:53] there. One is the document that um as I open one is I um bulleted out here. You

[6:01] want to look at it that way? Um I bullet bulleted is not the right language. Um I

[6:07] set some um requested action reasons for change on one of the documents, what the

[6:12] financial impact is, um where the money will come from and if you agree the

[6:18] motion is all on the first document. The second document is

[6:27] it is is a breakdown actually from Underwood um explaining where the money

[6:33] the adjustment is going to be need made um because the project do you want me to

[6:38] keep going Jeff? >> Um you can or I can explain. It's just

[6:42] the additional work that's required of them. uh just uh designing the new path

[6:48] that was taken for the uh because they couldn't do the directional drill, they

[6:52] had to do open cut. Um and then they also brought on additional um on-site

[6:58] engineer uh residential I call it resident engineer

[7:04] project manager. So that document up on the screen shows

[7:08] the breakdown um where they are asking for the adjustment because of the

[7:13] extended time to of the completion of the project and this is for Underwood

[7:17] Engineering. This is not for the contractor or their work. Underwood has

[7:21] done an extensive amount of extra work with this project because we have the

[7:25] USDA funding. We have the we will have the USDA funding but they but even

[7:31] though that funding hasn't kicked in they have to follow Baba and time worked

[7:35] and they have to supply all of these documents. Um then we have EPA funding

[7:40] and we also have >> CDBG

[7:42] » CDBG funding. So there is an extensive amount of extra work that they are that

[7:47] they have done but but because the project has been extended they're asking

[7:51] for an adjustment to construction administration and resident pro project

[7:56] representation. It totals $40,950. So

[8:04] » to come from the sewer capital reserve >> that's what we're but that's an is that

[8:09] an addition to what we did before? >> Yes it is. Yeah. So this so what we did

[8:13] before was the project that was sergeants cost for the project. So that

[8:17] amount of money would be coming from the contingency split. I think it was almost

[8:22] a split not fully but half of part of that money came from the contingency and

[8:27] the other part is coming from the sewer capital reserve. Um and then there is

[8:33] one more tonight that we I have um which we might as well talk about right now.

[8:38] » The asbestous removal. No, we um the so when going back I realized going back to

[8:45] the beginning of this project the project um and I don't have the document

[8:50] right in front of me and I'm sorry but the project was roughly 2.9 million but

[8:54] we knew $40,500 was not funded in any part of that

[8:59] project. We and we agreed to move forward back then but we never said

[9:03] where that money was coming from. So I have that tonight to talk to the Jeff

[9:08] and I have talked about it as well. So it's 40,500 plus this 40,000

[9:15] 950. We have to decide where that funding is if we approve the addition to

[9:21] the the amend the engineering amendment. If we approve that one and then two

[9:26] where is that funding coming from? The 40,500

[9:30] was approved previously. We just have to decide now where that money is coming

[9:36] from. So, and I didn't I didn't want to miss this.

[9:40] So, go ahead. I'm I can't tell you. Go

[9:44] ahead. >> All right. Yeah, let's deal with one

[9:47] thing at a time. >> Yes.

[9:49] » Well, he's giving me the look. >> So, for this

[9:53] » try to be good. >> So, for this one, it is an additional

[9:57] $40,950 for the engineering on this project.

[10:03] and for them the construction oversight all of that for the project.

[10:07] » So it's already done, right? >> No, this one this is this is the project

[10:11] that we did that meeting where we kind of went through with them around all the

[10:15] changes to go from the board to the overcome.

[10:18] » This is technically a second chain a second change order that will be over

[10:24] the contracted amount. So we have to agree whether whether we agree that this

[10:30] is justified 40 40,950 and whether we one if we agree it is we

[10:37] have to approve the change order and if we agree it is then we have to approve

[10:41] where the money's coming from >> right so

[10:44] » so I'm guessing if you want this project to keep going we have the choice we have

[10:47] to

[10:51] » the engineering firm is you know we do a lot of work for so we They're also the

[10:55] ones had our back >> right

[10:57] » on that and fought for us for, you know, a reasonable contract,

[11:03] » a reasonable result uh on the on the other projects. So,

[11:08] » what's the balance on the capital reserve?

[11:10] » It's over a million. >> Well, it'll I can't give you an exact

[11:15] number. We're waiting for a transfer to finalize um from the check from the

[11:20] checking, but I think it is over a million.

[11:22] » Is that your suggestion, Jeff? >> It is money. Yeah.

[11:26] Yeah. Just keep the project moving forward without having to go to

[11:30] taxpayers. We set the money aside for occasions like this. So,

[11:34] » are they on track to finish before winter?

[11:36] » November 30th. Yeah. Yeah. >> What does the contract look like?

[11:42] » The the engineering contract is it's that before you. So, the the

[11:48] » the T's there's no T's and C's with the engineering.

[11:53] So there and I did talk to the town's attorney. The town's attorney did say

[11:58] » so it's time and material basically job. >> Yeah.

[12:02] » Yes. Because they their contract is broken down by So there were six

[12:07] categories in their contract. >> Yeah.

[12:11] » Six or seven categories and I think they're the ones that are there. So when

[12:14] we get So each bill had a specific amount of money. So, construction

[12:19] administration, we agreed to $190,000

[12:24] » um on our contract. So, >> I just want to be clear just to be on

[12:28] the same page with everybody, okay? I'm not saying that we should not try to

[12:33] make sure we fund appropriately because they clearly have done extra stuff. What

[12:38] I'm trying to verify is the original agreement that we entered into with

[12:43] them. How are we with that? And then have they notified us in the time frames

[12:48] defined by the contract to make sure that everybody's behaving appropriately?

[12:53] That's that's when we when we get into like the back and forth with the with

[12:57] the last time when we were talking about the drilling and whatnot, it was all

[13:01] about well this one left and this one did this and this one did that and it

[13:05] was more just trying to like tie off, okay, what does the contract say they're

[13:11] responsible for for us? That's that's what's coming down. So, what the

[13:14] contract says they're responsible for are those tasks there at $445,000.

[13:20] So, that's what they're responsible for, but um there is no time limit on when

[13:25] they can put in a change order. >> More the time limits when we were

[13:29] talking last time was did they notify us before they stopped doing work

[13:33] » and did they notify us that Yeah, >> these guys are still working. They're

[13:37] still >> in construction administration. How did

[13:39] they I guess what I'm getting at is so they're adding $21,100 to construction

[13:44] administration for $190,000. So

[13:49] » we were >> It just seems like an interesting

[13:50] number. So how why is construction administration going up? Like what was

[13:55] the thing that >> we were supposed to be done in June.

[13:58] We're not getting done till November. >> Yeah. just having personnel on board

[14:02] overseeing what they thought they were going to be overseeing as directional

[14:05] drilling and now they're overseeing a whole

[14:08] » horizontal day. That's part of it. >> Okay.

[14:11] » And we're extended the whole project. We've extended the project twice. So

[14:15] we've extended it from September.

[14:18] » I'm not saying it's bad if not three. >> I'm trying to tie off between

[14:23] » we originally said the project was this and then and I mean bottom line they're

[14:26] not the ones running the shovel, >> right? like they're overseeing it. So I

[14:31] just want to make sure that it's >> so just um also just to give you the

[14:36] number the number for sewer capital reserve once the transfer is complete

[14:40] will be just over a million.

[14:48] » What is what's resident project representative for 20 grand?

[14:51] » We have to have somebody on site because of the horizontal cut now. Not not the

[14:56] horizontal drill the cut the open cut. Sorry.

[14:59] » Well, they're documenting all the work, making sure that the contractor is doing

[15:03] as okay specified. So,

[15:08] » they do a daily report, fill out all the information, pull ties and whatnot.

[15:12] » Oh, okay. >> Quite a bit that they're doing on site.

[15:15] » So, those are really the two things that are causing it. The extension from to

[15:19] November and we have to have somebody we don't they have to have somebody on site

[15:24] just making sure everything's done appropriately. Um, I'll make a motion

[15:27] that we approve $40,950. >> And,

[15:32] » uh, >> it's on the bottom.

[15:35] » Oh, the first the first sheet.

[15:40] » The, um, engineering agreement. I look at the amendments.

[15:46] » There's two that say amendment. I should have clarified that.

[15:52] » Actually,

[15:56] And then it says um amendment >> approve the amendment of the engineering

[15:59] agreement in the amount of 40,950 authorizing the use of the sewer capital

[16:04] reserve to fund and authorize the town administrator to execute any necessary

[16:08] documents related to the project update. >> I'll second that.

[16:13] » Okay. Motion by John, second by Scott. Any comments or further questions?

[16:20] » All those in favor please say I. >> I. I. Those opposed extensions 4 zero.

[16:26] » Do you just want to keep going in order, Sean?

[16:29] » Okay. >> We actually um we brought this to you um

[16:34] to approve the purchase order. It is within the my authority, but we thought

[16:38] it would be good to make sure the board understood it.

[16:42] Those are the two there. >> Did you need me to sign this as well?

[16:46] » No. No. You just have to tell them about it.

[16:49] » Yeah. This is uh asbestous removal. glass vessels was found on that property

[16:54] uh when we started uh looking started planning on tearing that building down.

[17:00] Um that was uh that would have been a change order to do the the

[17:07] asbestos removal. We got some local pricing to get an idea what that's going

[17:11] to cost us. That price came in just shy of 7 grand. Uh 6,500 actually. Um

[17:18] » um 7B and 7 C are the two quotes um that he's talking about. If you wanted to

[17:23] look at them, one is from always re and the other's from

[17:27] » Yeah, I think it's uh sergeants uh >> Sergeant recommended them which demo

[17:33] group. >> I think they were around 14 was it?

[17:36] » Yep. 14,000. So >> yeah.

[17:40] » And then there's a purchase order number in there. Um why didn't So why didn't it

[17:45] become part of the project? >> Um it was unknown if it was going to

[17:49] actually be in there until the project started taking place and then we did the

[17:53] we paid for the asbestous testing of the site asbestous and lead paint and

[17:58] whatnot. I think it was $1,500 back when it first started. And then uh

[18:05] they once they determined how much they were going to be uh for a quantity then

[18:10] uh we move forward with getting pricing.

[18:15] I think initially they could have included that in the U contingency fund,

[18:20] but now that that that's depleted, I think it's a way for us to we would

[18:26] have to pay for it one way or the other. If we went through, Sergeant, it would

[18:29] be probably around that 14,000. We just pay it out of pocket directly.

[18:35] » Okay. >> Save us some save us some money.

[18:38] So, we just want to make sure you um that you knew. Um I can prove this. It's

[18:43] within my the authority if you're okay with it, but we wanted to make sure um

[18:49] that you knew. Um I've also started a document that tracks any costs outside

[18:55] of the project that we're paying for. It has everything in it. Legal document

[19:00] fees for the ban. Um this would be trapped in it as well. So, I know

[19:05] exactly what we spent on the whole project when we're done,

[19:08] » including interest. >> Um, I did not. Thank you, John.

[19:14] » Just surprising. >> Jesus Christ.

[19:17] » Consensus on >> I'll fix that.

[19:19] » Signing that. >> Yeah. Yeah.

[19:22] » And and the other 40,000 we make sure we do that.

[19:26] » So, we have that's next. Okay. >> Um add interest.

[19:40] So the again, this one is kind of an after the fact. It just is something we

[19:46] realized that we never voted where that money was coming from. We just said,

[19:49] "Yeah, go ahead with the project." So it was $40,500.

[19:54] Um, and actually, um, here I might be able to share my screen.

[20:03] If you if you if you're connecting back to the Zoom, just don't connect the

[20:06] audio. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[20:13] » All right. So, this if it show gives you a rough idea where the funding was

[20:19] coming from. So, you can see that I'm not making up the number totally. Um but

[20:24] the original so this is the 40,000 that was approved. It's coming from um

[20:28] engineering. >> That was that's not included in the

[20:32] first one that you voted. So um but this is the what we were supposed to pay for

[20:39] but it's not budgeted anywhere. It's over and above. So

[20:46] » and the thought is that two could come from the capital reserve.

[20:51] » Capital reserve. So you could use the same motion that you just made but tweak

[20:55] it a little. um if you're okay with that. I didn't get to prepare your

[21:00] document for that. >> That's fine.

[21:03] » And then this is the we're keeping track of where the right now this is

[21:08] everything we've been spending on this side. And then um the funding that we're

[21:13] getting. So and also so that you know that we are pulling from the ban um as

[21:20] needed. Right now we've gotten funding that equals what we've spent on the

[21:25] project. Um, so it's good news. We are keeping back up on it, but we only have

[21:29] about 600,000 left of the ban. Um, so but we're winding down. So

[21:40] » Okay. All right. Uh, I'll make a motion that we uh approve the engineering fees

[21:46] uh the engineering agreement in the amount of $40,500

[21:50] authorizing the use of the sewer capital reserve to fund and authorize the town

[21:55] administrator to execute any necessary documents related to this up this

[21:59] project update. Second.

[22:07] » Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any further discussion?

[22:12] All those in favor, please say I. I. >> I. Those opposed. Abstensions 40 zero.

[22:18] » So you just um made me think of something too. Kristen and Sean

[22:22] something for us. >> You know when we have that we have this

[22:25] ban. >> Mhm.

[22:26] » We've got we've had various tans and whatnot. One of the things that we may

[22:30] want to make sure we know about when we do the budget like that budget day,

[22:33] » right? >> Overall debt to income. Well, the

[22:36] overall debt to income ratio too, like how

[22:39] » how we line up against all because we still have debt for public safety

[22:44] building. We still have debt for other things like

[22:46] » So, um, debt is regulated by the DRA. We we're only I'll get you that

[22:51] information, but we have a certain percent that we're not allowed to go

[22:54] over. >> I'm curious like where are we at? Yeah.

[22:58] In relation to that, >> we the good well right now it's a we

[23:02] have now that we're values are where they're at. Our debt is much higher that

[23:08] we're allowed to have. We aren't near there though. But I will because I think

[23:14] it was a year or so ago we said we were getting close. That's why

[23:17] » we were till we did the reval. But that changes things.

[23:21] » Not that I would to go into more debt. >> I was going to say yeah. So for

[23:26] everyone's knowledge, Christina wants us to

[23:28] » I do not want to. >> Everybody knows

[23:32] » I want to finish the projects we have. >> So Jeff is actually here for um also to

[23:38] give you water sewer update. Do you but before do you want to talk to them about

[23:42] the Pleasant Street tank? >> Um I have that on my list. just touch a

[23:47] little bit on >> um so I'll start off with the um little

[23:53] bit of an update on the project. Um couple weeks ago we did the bypass. They

[24:00] did the bypass pump and tie on tie in. And what that did is it uh tied in down

[24:05] on uh Central Street Marramac Street intersection and tied back in at the top

[24:09] of Marramac Street. And we're utilizing uh HDP pipe to get around all the

[24:15] construction that's taking place. As they do the open cut, they're ripping

[24:18] out the existing uh force mane and replacing it with the new. Um, they've

[24:24] encountered a pretty goodized boulder. Uh, I sent that picture along.

[24:27] » Oh, do you want me to It's in the Yeah, you might have seen it in the but is

[24:32] probably about a third the size of their excavator it looked like.

[24:37] » It's pretty. >> Yeah, they actually had to dig a hole

[24:39] beside it and push it in because it was too large. But

[24:42] » is that what they're scoop? >> What's that?

[24:44] » Is that the one you sent us? >> I think so. Yeah. Yeah.

[24:47] » Um, >> but uh yeah, they're up in front of the

[24:50] first house almost at Spring Street right now. Um, they uh we did close down

[24:56] the road uh Wednesday and uh they encountered ledge as soon as they got on

[25:02] Central Street. So now they're bringing in a a whole ram next week. So we had to

[25:07] reschedu that uh road closure. >> It's at the very end. Um, we'll fill in

[25:13] the details to the public >> of what day those that'll take place.

[25:17] » Oh, that's a goodie. >> That was a good size one. So,

[25:24] » all right. >> But I think they're averaging only about

[25:27] 80 ft a day, and they're hoping to speed that up a bit. They're they're working

[25:31] in some tight areas where between the existing gravity feed, ripping out the

[25:35] force main, uh, the highways, storm water,

[25:39] » um, is laid right there as well. and passing some of those old brick

[25:43] structures that are catch basins. They're just taking their time. So,

[25:49] we touched a little bit. >> So, that line that goes along Marramac

[25:53] that we're replacing, >> that's not that's the force main that's

[25:58] not connected to all the houses. >> Correct. It's just Yeah, just no

[26:03] laterals coming off it. But they have encountered some of the laterals as they

[26:07] passed. Well, >> the one that they passed they hit. So,

[26:10] they're making those repairs as they go along.

[26:13] » Okay. >> Uh trying to avoid them. Uh they did hit

[26:15] the gravity feed sewer >> and they didn't uh they plan on not

[26:20] hitting that again. We'll see how that goes.

[26:27] » Really is nothing worse than hitting the water stuff.

[26:29] » Yeah. >> Well, sewer is worse.

[26:38] Like I say, this uh of course this is pushing the whole project out to the end

[26:43] of November now. So, but that would the end of November that uh old pump station

[26:48] will be torn down by then. Um and the foundation will be uh buried what's left

[26:56] of that. So, um,

[27:01] sorry, I meant to print this out, but my printer wasn't working, so it's on my

[27:05] phone. Uh,

[27:13] all the guys, they've been working down the treatment plant. Our buildings

[27:17] needed painting, so they've been pressure washing, scraping, and getting

[27:19] ready to to paint those buildings. Couple of doors needed to replacing, so

[27:23] they're working on that. just just grounds maintenance or building

[27:26] maintenance. Um there's some paving that we're going to

[27:31] be working with the highway. They're doing forth Brookbrook Road. Um

[27:35] initially, um Victor felt that the manels didn't need to be addressed

[27:40] because they were just going to grind the pavement down. Sounds like he's

[27:43] going to have a talk with them on Tuesday because they're talking about

[27:46] taking the frames and covers right out and grinding the road and then going

[27:49] back and adjusting those. So he'll be talking to them on Tuesday to find out

[27:54] what we need to do or if they're going to take care of that themselves. So but

[27:59] along with paving we have a lot of patches that we need to do addressing

[28:02] some of the manholes like on Hillside Avenue is plow catches some manholes. So

[28:06] we're going to be uh working with them um kind of feathering them out so that

[28:11] doesn't happen. Uh we're currently uh scheduling out our

[28:16] backflow testing um throughout town with backflow devices. Our guys are trained

[28:20] to test those. Uh so that's what they're doing.

[28:25] Uh we're scheduled uh seasonals uh for the middle of October hydrant flushing.

[28:31] Uh so this is taking place over the next month and two month or two. So

[28:39] we had our last tour. We had a few of the residents come. It was pretty

[28:43] successful. We had a little guy, a little

[28:47] six-year-old came and he was pretty impressed. his dad. I saw his dad. His

[28:50] dad said he's home with a lab coat on and mixing stuff.

[28:55] So, he's filling out an application. So, >> yeah. Good. Tell me I'll have a spot in

[29:01] uh >> Yeah.

[29:02] » Yeah. in 12 years. >> Yeah. Um

[29:06] we uh had to expedite our valve service. Normally we

[29:11] have valve service done at our booster station um in November, but this year we

[29:16] started having some problems just like the past week or two. Uh so I'm having

[29:20] that guy come in sooner um and address that. So we got called out there on a

[29:26] Sunday to leak. So uh had to do a repair to the back piston

[29:31] for the thumb. Um we have a leak in hydraulic tank. We have to get that

[29:35] repaired. We looked into a replacement of that tank and it's $6,500 for a tank

[29:40] for that backo. So, I think we can make the repair a lot cheaper.

[29:48] » Not that I want to volunteer them, but do you ever talk to

[29:53] Victor about his you his um guy who does mechanic work for him?

[29:58] » Yeah, we've utilized him to the the welder guy. Yeah. No, no, no. They're in

[30:04] house person. >> Oh, Jonathan.

[30:06] » Yeah. >> Not that he could spare him right now

[30:09] with the short short crew, but it might be something to think about.

[30:13] » Yeah, our guys are pretty good, too. I got Jesse. That's what he came to. Yeah,

[30:18] he's a me was a mechanic. >> Um,

[30:23] let's see. Oh, the utility truck's been down for about two weeks now. vacuum

[30:28] pump, uh, booster pump for the brakes and power steering failed. Um, it's over

[30:34] at Auto Trends. The order of part, uh, they received a damaged one. Uh, they're

[30:38] expecting to get it tomorrow. Uh, this truck is a 2017.

[30:43] It's scheduled to be replaced in next year's budget. Uh, I just got a placeho

[30:49] holder right now of about 85,000. I know I can get a truck a lot cheaper than

[30:52] that, but I just to start out with on the budget because this is a utility

[30:56] body truck. So, four-wheel drive and a diesel at that. So,

[31:06] and the oil spill down there. We're waiting to hear back from the customer

[31:10] that's responsible for the cleanup. If we do not hear from him, I think in the

[31:14] next I think we got one more week that we gave him till we will do the clean up

[31:19] ourselves or or pay for it and then just put it on to his bill.

[31:26] » I'll check the Yeah, I think it's one more week though for the deadline. Y

[31:32] » and then uh there was the propane uh that Christina mentioned down to

[31:39] Pleasant Street pump station. That's we have a backup generator down there. It's

[31:42] only got about 20% left in the tank. Um, so that's causing an issue with the

[31:47] generator running. This tank was supposed to be topped off, but it it

[31:51] didn't pass uh a test. They have a anode bags uh that kind of it's a sacrificial

[31:58] bag that takes the corrosion away from the tank that has failed. They did a

[32:02] couple of tests. So, they feel as though that tank needs to be dug up and

[32:05] replaced. Dead River uh has taken ownership of the tank and will replace

[32:10] the tank. However, we're responsible for esavation. It's a thousandgalon tank

[32:14] that's in the ground. Um my concern when I spoke initially with them is there's a

[32:20] $500 450 annual fee for that tank. Um so my thought was that we would buy the

[32:26] tank. That's what we've done with the other uh projects that we have. We

[32:30] purchase the tanks and then we don't have a tank rental and reduce cost for

[32:34] the propane itself. But talking with Bill Carquette, he said they wave the

[32:39] the rental fee. So >> nice.

[32:41] » Um it would be worth probably just having them stick the tank back in.

[32:45] » But in the future when the town does go out to propane bid is that's one of the

[32:49] things that they should consider is, you know, are they willing to wave the

[32:52] rental fee to keep that cost down. >> Yeah.

[32:56] » We did think it might be a bigger conversation that we probably need to

[33:00] have too because we own some tanks. We don't own some tanks. Um

[33:05] » yeah, >> we're finding in um with Central Street,

[33:07] they contracted with Suburban. That's not part of our the company we have in

[33:12] our we have a we haven't gone out to RP yet, but it's not the one we've been

[33:17] contracted with. >> So, we're just we can get a bigger

[33:21] discussion. >> I think Sergeant may have been talking

[33:23] with Dead River 2 today because that's where Bill called from. Yep.

[33:26] » He was at Central Street. So, I think they're trying to work out something,

[33:30] but it it would be nice just to I'm trying to keep a handle on what we own

[33:34] and what we don't >> cuz we did ask them to we said that

[33:38] Suburban wasn't our normal provider and at the time they thought they were

[33:42] checking to see if they could potentially change their contract

[33:46] because we wanted to stay with our current provider. They're filling all of

[33:50] our tanks. >> Yeah, they did say if I was to purchase

[33:53] the tank, it was $5,000 for the tank, too. But uh it does have me thinking too

[33:59] the waist one at the wastewater plants uh that was installed in 1969 a thousand

[34:04] tank right now it's at 70% and they continue to fill it as needed but it's

[34:07] only running the generator so it was over a year ago when it was last filled

[34:12] so but that uh the one at Pleasant Street was installed in 1998 so I don't

[34:17] know you know there's no guarantees of how long these tanks last so

[34:22] » well generally it's what it's the anode bags that really Yeah, they're supposed

[34:26] to. >> Yeah.

[34:28] » And that Yeah, that's what's happening Pleasant Street obviously, but that has

[34:32] made it only 20 years. >> Yeah,

[34:35] » the bill of thought maybe is just the soil conditions, the water, you know, so

[34:40] it is close to the road there. Just something to keep in mind. Uh they

[34:46] they did agree that they would put 20% in it and hopefully get us back so we

[34:51] can at least operate that generator more than 20 minutes. That's what happens. It

[34:54] fails. 200 gallons. I think they said they would be delivering today. Yep.

[34:59] » Yeah. >> Okay.

[35:02] » And I think October 10th is when they plan on

[35:05] » doing the tank replacement and we'll we're trying to figure out which way

[35:08] that path goes because I think it may go underneath the existing pavement, but we

[35:13] dug up the last one when they did Central Street years ago. We can dig up

[35:16] this one again. So, >> okay.

[35:19] » I just checked the letter. His his time is up. So, we'll move forward now with

[35:23] the upper ditch and we will do what we It's

[35:27] » Oh, it has. Okay. Yeah. >> Yep.

[35:29] » What was going on at School Street yesterday?

[35:33] » Oh, uh that that was a customer's leak. 128 School Street leak. Uh it got worse.

[35:38] We actually had to shut it off which kind of uh forced the guy to have to get

[35:43] somebody out there. And the piece of equipment that they used was a VAT

[35:46] truck. It was a hydro >> excavation. Yeah. It's a pretty neat way

[35:52] to do it. >> Um, there was a sewer line right in the

[35:55] way and they were able to they take a basically a pressure washer, loosen the

[35:58] ground and vacuum vacuum out. >> It's nice cuz this guy's right down the

[36:04] road. He lives right next Oh, his business is right next to the Smith

[36:08] River. >> Yeah.

[36:09] » Um, and we could utilize him in the future on something. could

[36:14] » I actually thought of maybe the propane tank get a price from him to see what it

[36:19] would >> Yeah.

[36:21] » take just might be a cleaner way to do that. So,

[36:26] » all right.

[36:33] » I hit a button on the keyboard and it turned the volume on. Sorry.

[36:36] » All right. Any other questions for >> Thank you, Jeff.

[36:41] » Thank you guys. JR's

[36:46] like I'm out.

[36:52] » It's easy when you have a million dollars to

[36:55] » well >> to cover that.

[36:57] » It does make it a little bit >> makes it a little easier to

[37:01] » little straightforward. >> Yeah.

[37:04] » Come on up, Chief. in the

[37:09] » um >> and nothing

[37:13] in your folders. Um there is a memo from uh chief under number nine.

[37:25] If I can, I'd love to get to that last. >> Okay.

[37:29] » Okay. >> Just because I think it'll it'll be a

[37:32] little longer conversation maybe. Um,

[37:36] so I guess I just start with the update that um, you know, we're kind of due for

[37:41] after seeing you guys in May. Um, hit a couple of things. So, we're at full

[37:48] staff. You know, I mean, not to toot our horns, but, you know, it's always a nice

[37:52] thing to hear from the department where they're at, but we are at full staff.

[37:56] Um, pretty much all those new hires are are at the end or technically over the

[38:01] end of their probationary period. We just need to get reviews finalized and

[38:06] probably next meeting you'll have uh three of the four of those. The fourth

[38:10] one was hired late in December and is in his EM is AMT class now uh which would

[38:17] be the LA one of the last requirements on his probation. So, um, his may be

[38:23] extended just because that class kind of ends at the end of his probation and

[38:27] he'll need to test and all that stuff, but, um, that class is being held at the

[38:32] public safety building. We worked with Becker training, uh, last year to run an

[38:37] EMT class in the fall, which was super successful, put a lot of people in the

[38:41] area through. Um, and the same thing this year. I mean, there's people from

[38:46] all over the place coming to it. Um, but another good number from the area, from

[38:51] our department and surrounding department. So, that's exciting. Um,

[38:57] I say we're at full staff. We're at full staff career-wise. Our PDM cadre is is

[39:02] pretty good. Um, we still miss a Saturday or a Sunday coverage period

[39:06] here and there just based on availability. Um, a few more people may

[39:10] join into that uh pretty soon. call company numbers are are still kind

[39:17] of an issue. You know, we're even at the staffing level of three and basically

[39:22] five of us around during the daytime. Um, and some of the good stuff we've

[39:27] been able to do because of that, you still need a a good active call company.

[39:31] Um, and our our call company, what we have left is is good and solid and have

[39:35] been around for a while and and know what uh what is going on.

[39:40] What's kind of exciting is uh it's been a lot of travel and time away, but um

[39:46] I've been to a number of conferences really this year. Um kind of partly in

[39:51] that position as the president of the fire chief's association was at least

[39:55] helped pay for some of it. Um but the New England division of IFC has a

[39:59] recruitment and retention safer grant right now. It's just over $3.3 million.

[40:05] Um, a big chunk of that is the ability for basically almost every department in

[40:10] the New England area to take um and bring on up to five, provided the

[40:16] funding stays, up to five new caller volunteer responders. They reimburse

[40:22] $400 of a physical. They reimburse $4,100 worth of gear. Uh, they'll

[40:28] reimburse, I think it's like 2500 or something like that toward those initial

[40:33] trainings. fire one, fire two, EMT. Um, we're just going to have people to take

[40:38] advantage of it. So, yes, it would still, you know, if we could bring on,

[40:42] you know, two or three people and take advantage of that or just one person

[40:45] take advantage of that grant, it would still cost us, we'll call it 2500 or

[40:50] $3,000, but offset by, you know, 7 $8,000 worth of grant funds, which would

[40:57] be great. Um, the IAFF has a marketing campaign supposedly designed toward uh

[41:05] the generation Z crowd um called the hustle worth having. There's not a lot

[41:11] of money per se, but it's marketing material that you can have access to and

[41:14] get banners and postcards and some social media marketing out there. So,

[41:19] now that I've kind of gone through that conference cycle and we're starting to

[41:22] put some plans together, we'll at least start pushing it out there and if we can

[41:26] capture some people, that'd be fantastic.

[41:29] Um, so we're uh I think I said we're a

[41:34] little behind during the last update, just statistically a few percent behind.

[41:38] Um, we're probably still a few behind, but we just went over a thousand calls

[41:43] and did a couple more today. So, um, that keeps us back on track for our what

[41:48] we've seen the last couple years around 1500 calls for the year. Um,

[41:53] some of the recent incidents, uh, you know, I'm obviously as the fire chief,

[41:58] I'm super proud of how they've gone. We've had a number of fires in the area,

[42:02] both outside and structural fires. Um, obviously the the big one was the Manor

[42:08] Estates one. Um, and that was a crazy amount of fire uh

[42:15] in a five six five >> five unit

[42:18] » five unit, right? Townhouse style condo. Um, and while there was some fire damage

[42:24] to one of the adjoining units and some water damage to the other adjoining

[42:29] unit, we've basically kept it to the to the uh unit of origin, which is

[42:34] » really at the end of the day almost unheard of in the fire service. It's a

[42:39] nonprotected building. Uh, a number of of residents and past residents will

[42:45] claim that there are firewalls. there are not firewalls uh separating those uh

[42:49] occupancies. Um wow.

[42:52] » So, you know, certainly that crew that day and and Deputy Doll taking command

[42:57] initially cuz I was in vacation mode and out of town and then was back off of

[43:01] vacation mode and back here for it. But, um they did a fantastic job. Uh and it

[43:07] really just comes down to right having the staffing, having the training, and

[43:11] having that mindset of, you know, we're going to get there with a quick

[43:14] response. we're going to aggressively attack this fire. Um and and then just

[43:19] the ton of training that they do. So, uh very proud of them and the mutual aid

[43:24] partners. We had a great turnout for mutual aid. Um which we really rely on,

[43:29] right? Cuz not only for manpower and for other pieces of equipment. We've only

[43:33] got so many fire trucks at the end of the day. Um but we needed another

[43:36] ladder. Ashlin's ladder came down um and assisted with that.

[43:42] It's in the hydrant district, which is great. But if you want to get water on

[43:46] the fire fast, somebody coming in behind you, which is usually a mutual aid

[43:50] partner, needs to get that water supply established. And and uh it happened

[43:54] relatively quickly. Some stuff we reviewed, but for the most part it was

[43:58] fine. Um because those partners, New Hampton, New Hampton has some hydrants,

[44:02] but New Hampton, Alexandria, Bridgewwater, companies like that, they

[44:05] don't have hydrants, but they train with us all the time or they work with us all

[44:08] the time and and we can trust them to get that done. So, um, that was a big

[44:13] one. Uh, obviously very visible, but it was it was a big stop and a and a good

[44:18] job for the department. Um, I also want to point out with some of those uh

[44:24] events and and kind of thank the board for when we replaced car one last year,

[44:29] it allowed us to keep the old car one, make it car 3. We haven't labeled it

[44:33] yet, but um to make it car 3. So, it gives I apologize. I meant to start

[44:39] here. For those of you who don't know, this is Deputy Chief Aaron Heath.

[44:43] He's been around a while, but he I keep him in an office and don't let him out

[44:47] very often. So, um, but he's here one to kind of get a feel for this, but two, as

[44:53] we talk about engine two, we let headed up that truck committee. So, um, even

[44:57] though I don't think we'll get too in the weeds on that tonight, hopefully he

[45:01] can, you know, answer questions or tell me that I'm wrong. So

[45:07] up until that point, Aaron in his role as a deputy doing a lot of fire

[45:11] prevention work, attending a lot of meetings, um would use the utility

[45:14] truck. And one of the big things that I wanted to be able to do when we went to

[45:18] that staffing of three is to use the utility truck, which is a smaller

[45:22] vehicle, more normal for people to drive as, you know, to chase, right? Hey, we

[45:28] need an extra set of hands versus sending an engine like a lot of bigger

[45:31] cities do or other towns do cuz it's crazy to put a million dollar 40 50

[45:37] 60,000lb vehicle on the road just to go give a hand when we have a pickup truck

[45:42] that can do the same thing. Um, but when Aaron's using the pickup truck most

[45:47] every hour of every day, it doesn't afford to. So, you're chasing the

[45:51] ambulance or the rescue or whatever. So, it gives him a vehicle to use routinely

[45:55] during the day. gives his gears there, whatever. What else we've been able to

[45:59] do is like, you know, especially April vacation, not that Aaron doesn't have

[46:03] kids, he doesn't go on vacation. Uh myself, Deputy Dollar are usually

[46:08] somewhere out of state during April vacation. So, April vacation, he could

[46:12] take that car home, quickly respond back. We had like two brush fire

[46:16] incidents during that week, you know, in the weekend and overnight period. That

[46:20] was basically like having me still around or or Doof in town dealing with

[46:25] it. Uh we did the same thing um when I went to Alaska at the end of July and

[46:30] then this month most of the month on and off he's had it uh kind of going back

[46:35] and forth and deal with meetings and call backs. Same thing we had the the

[46:39] fire on Roundtop was in that time period. Aaron was able to quickly get

[46:43] back. Um, so we're super appreciative that we still have that and uh we'll

[46:48] continue to kind of work it that way and working toward ultimately kind of where

[46:53] everybody um where most other departments are at and that you know

[46:58] eventually that becomes a more normal take-home vehicle for those for those

[47:02] period times. But triing it has worked out exactly like we expected it to. Um

[47:08] so more to talk about that at some point. But

[47:12] that's car 3. Budget prep. Obviously, we're going to hit budget in another

[47:16] month, but that's kind of a big one right now with um

[47:21] everybody's kind of on the schedule. Aaron's got project areas or budget

[47:24] lines that he manages. Every officer pretty much has a budget line or project

[47:29] area and then some of the firefighters as well. So, those meetings are

[47:33] scheduled for like the next week or two. Um I think the early look we're in

[47:38] pretty good shape. Obviously, you know, we presented it last year, right? That

[47:42] our budget, it's 80 plus% personnel. Not a lot you can do about it. Out of that

[47:47] 20% uh that's left over, about half of it,

[47:51] there's really nothing we can do. It's EMS billing. It's uh the dispatch

[47:56] contract. There's some kind of required and statutory maintenance in there that

[48:01] got to have a contract. You got to have those expenses. So, while 10% of our

[48:05] budget is a fair amount of money, it really only leaves 10% to kind of from

[48:09] one year to the next get projects done. And um we've been pretty effective, I

[48:14] think, the last couple years doing that where that 10% doesn't see much of an

[48:18] increase. We can say things like, you know, last year, the year before, there

[48:22] was some money to upfit the new ambulance. That's a project. We've

[48:26] completed it. We don't need those funds anymore, but now it's time to repair

[48:29] pagers or we need to, you know, it's a big year where we do hydro testing, not

[48:34] hydro testing, but uh yeah, hydro testing on on all the air pack bottles

[48:39] um and move those funds around to use it. We did it with training last year um

[48:44] largely because of that training contract. My hope this year is not only

[48:47] to keep it funded there, but it maybe potentially even go a little bit higher.

[48:51] Um, I tell our crew and especially the officers all the time, we really have

[48:56] three jobs. We need to respond to emergencies. We need to make sure

[49:00] equipment's ready to respond to emergencies and people are ready to

[49:02] respond to emergencies. And we respond to emergencies. And

[49:07] certainly the work we've done and and what we'll talk about with engine 2 and

[49:10] the upcoming ambulance purchase, we've set ourselves up to have, you know, at

[49:14] least good equipment and then we maintain it on a day-to-day basis. That

[49:18] training number has never really been a good number for a long time, but

[49:22] especially now with 11 full-time guys on the floor, Aaron, myself, and the rest

[49:29] of the staff, it just needs to be a bigger number to ensure that they're

[49:32] getting what they need training wise. Um, so we'll talk about that during the

[49:37] budget stuff, but that's kind of a big goal for me this year.

[49:41] Uh, one of the projects, so I use budget prep time. It's a good time of year,

[49:47] right? You're in that last third. You're in the home stretch to say, "What

[49:50] haven't we got done? What do we still need to get done? And then maybe through

[49:53] budget constraints, what do we need to hold off on?" So, that'll be the focus

[49:57] over the next two weeks, getting everybody aligned for the rest of the

[50:01] season. Um, one of those projects that wasn't necessarily on the radar. It it

[50:06] is, you know, in the plan in the next year or two, we would replace the

[50:10] hydraulic tools, but um there's some really good uh trade in value stuff

[50:15] right now. We started that process. Captain Marsh started that process over

[50:19] like the last month. Uh has gotten vendor numbers, had all the vendors in

[50:24] for product demos. Um so probably in the next month I'll be bringing that forward

[50:29] to at least look at and and see if we want to move forward with it this year

[50:32] or not. Um I just I'll take a chance to or a moment to say thank you as usual to

[50:38] Steam Gilpatrick and Gilpatrick Metal Recycling.

[50:42] anytime we call and particularly during these demos, we've got a bunch of cars

[50:46] up, which certainly isn't a big deal to him, but we appreciate the space and the

[50:50] ability to just go up there. And there was even some confusion on the last one.

[50:54] He said, "I just go down there. Don't cut my torch truck. Cut whatever else

[50:58] you want effectively, you know." So, um, we certainly appreciate their help. Uh,

[51:04] whether it's that or safe prom exercises or other stuff we do at the station, uh,

[51:08] they're always awesome. So, the only other stuff to get into is

[51:14] kind of where we're at on on the ambulance and engine replacements. And I

[51:18] bring up the ambulance uh for kind of a reason. So, the ambulance um we had

[51:25] gotten a number last year when we took delivery of the truck. Hey, obviously

[51:29] we've we're paying the price on 3 years ago. Where are we at now? Uh that number

[51:35] has inflated a lot more than I anticipated.

[51:38] That said, I asked Lieutenant O'Neal when he started looking into the

[51:42] ambulance prices and and new specifications,

[51:45] where are we at when it comes to remounting, right? I've talked about it

[51:49] for years. I wanted to be there. The only issue is that we have to remount

[51:53] that ambulance onto a van chassis. We have two four-wheel drive trucks. If

[52:00] we buy a van and it's really cruddy weather, we can very easily switch over

[52:04] and run one of those first due during that period. we can easily run over and

[52:09] and switch it to first due for the four to eight however long winter is at this

[52:14] point. Three months some winters it seems like. But um so that price is

[52:21] about half of buying a new truck ambulance. So that's going to make a ton

[52:26] of sense. Uh it's obviously going to give us some wiggle room in that plan.

[52:32] um that down the road, like was talking to Scott earlier about the replacement

[52:37] numbers and projecting them. I feel pretty good about them, but we're, you

[52:42] know, a couple years out from potentially ordering the ladder. We're

[52:46] 14 years out from from engine 4. If there's a little bit more increase

[52:51] than we anticipate, now we know there's, you know, probably 100 to 150 grand

[52:56] total that we've we've kind of saved here and can be used down the road,

[53:01] which would be great. So, depending on how some of this other discussion goes

[53:05] tonight, we'll probably won't be back until about this time next year to

[53:11] approve the remount on the ambulance. Obviously, we're taking one of the three

[53:16] ambulances that we have. It goes out pretty frequently. we use it for detail

[53:20] coverage. Um, and so we kind of have to time when that goes out. So roughly that

[53:25] October, November time frame. If it goes out to, I think it's Missouri. Um,

[53:30] right now, we'll see where we end up, but if it goes out to Missouri, it's

[53:34] there for up to 6 months, probably at least 5 months. Now it's back in May. We

[53:39] get it back ahead of summer season, swim with a mission detail, and then football

[53:44] details in the fall. So, um, if the money's not quite right, we'll

[53:49] have to wait another year. At least waiting another year on the ambulance at

[53:54] a 5% increase is $10,000 more as opposed to waiting another year on the engine,

[54:00] which is $50 to $70,000 more. Um, so that's where the ambulance is at. Just

[54:08] kind of a it's coming, but not quite yet.

[54:11] » What do you do with that? Do you drive that out there or do you put it on a

[54:13] truck? Well, actually, now that I say that, the company they were talking

[54:18] about was Tennessee, and I was thinking about driving it out

[54:22] and maybe lining up a water val.

[54:28] » Yeah. >> Um, but yeah, we'll evaluate, you know,

[54:32] is it is it uh which is more cost effective, right? You know, depending on

[54:38] sometimes you look into shipping stuff like that and it's surprisingly cheaper

[54:41] than you think it would be. And then sometimes you're like, "Yeah, another

[54:44] $5,000 when >> an airline ticket or two, you know."

[54:49] » Yeah. >> And whatever. And some fuel. Um,

[54:53] so yeah, all that'll be ironed out. Then engine two. So, engine 2 really for the

[55:00] past two years now or better part of two years, deputy chief uh deputy Heath and

[55:06] and the group that he put together has been looking at um the replacement of

[55:11] engine 2. That's we've been talking about it for a while now. That's why we

[55:15] made a bunch of moves uh at town meeting this year and uh and it's it's time to

[55:20] move forward with it. So, we uh as a kind of reminder or or

[55:27] education, engine 2 is our first due truck. It's our primary attack piece. It

[55:32] has 50 some odd thousand miles on it now at this point. Um after about 20 21

[55:38] years or 21 years in service. Um >> believe.

[55:42] » Yeah. Yeah. Cuz remember when we bought it?

[55:45] » Cuz I had been here for a little while before we bought it.

[55:48] » Right. >> Yeah. Remember, we were gonna buy a

[55:51] ladder, right? >> And then we bought an engine,

[55:54] » right? >> And then we quickly bought a ladder,

[55:56] which of course is an issue for now, too. But,

[55:59] » um, so engine two is the first new truck. Engine two, it's come up a couple

[56:04] times. When this thing we sign off on it and it gets delivered, you're going to

[56:08] look and go, did we get anything different? Um, it'll look somewhat

[56:11] different, right? Side by side, but it's going to be largely the same. We did a

[56:15] re I think I wasn't heading it up, but I was on that committee. We did a really

[56:20] good job designing Engine 2 when we first got it. Now 20 years have gone by.

[56:25] The call company looks a little different. Our mutual aid partners look

[56:28] a little different. You know, part of that is, hey, if we could put some more

[56:32] water on it, we don't need another tanker, but another 250 gallons of water

[56:36] is another minute and a half worth of active firefighting for that mutual aid

[56:41] company to come and and get the hydrant connected. or when we're out of the

[56:46] hydrant district, another tanker to show up and somebody to start drafted out of

[56:50] the Remmit Pond or Mooney Clark or whatever. So, um we also do a lot on our

[56:56] rear hose loads. So, that for me, not a big deal that they're 7 ft in the air,

[57:01] but getting them down to 4 and 1 half, 5T or whatever makes a huge difference

[57:06] for for everybody else deploying those hose loads. Um,

[57:12] and then you know obviously between LED and low voltage stuff, we've come leaps

[57:17] and bounds in 20 years and the idea of having another hydraulic generator that

[57:21] we're replacing the stator on every 5 years goes out the window, put an

[57:25] inverter and all 12vt light system on. So um,

[57:31] that is kind of the high level where we're at with engine 2. Um, I put in

[57:37] this that I sent you just kind of what the financial picture looks like, you

[57:41] know, as I have it laid out, what we were working on and you saw bigger

[57:45] versions of this last year as we had the discussion on uh changing that revolving

[57:49] fund. Um, that gives you something of a snapshot

[57:55] at least, you know, kind of through when the ladder's potential payment will be

[57:58] done. We talked to I say we they I didn't deal with any of it. um a number

[58:05] of companies. Uh so they're all listed there. Four guys. Smeal, we have all

[58:09] SMEL right now. Um I'll say it now. You know, SME's kind of

[58:16] out of the running based on their price. We've been very satisfied with SMEL. Um

[58:22] and from a from a dealership standpoint, I think overall we've been more or less

[58:27] satisfied with doing the fire equipment apparatus. The issue is in 2005 and even

[58:33] still in 2009 when we got the ladder, they had a great mobile service

[58:37] department. So even though they're in Connecticut, they could come up pretty

[58:41] quickly. They were fairly fair on pricing. They knew what they were doing.

[58:45] They were quick to resolve issues. That just isn't the case anymore. If you take

[58:48] it down there, they still do a great job fixing it, but taking it to Connecticut

[58:52] is a real pain in the in the butt. So, um, when you have Lakes Region an hour

[58:59] away and and Dingy an hour that way and a couple of better options that you can

[59:03] go to in the state, but they're servicing other vehicles and and busy

[59:08] and not necessarily a spiel manufacturer. So, um, Alexis Fire is

[59:14] sold by Lakes Region Fire. Uh, Sutin Sutin we kind of knew was going to be a

[59:20] really high number and it it really was. um uh and then Toy and Fire apparatus.

[59:27] So, we are kind of right now um down to two of those manufacturers.

[59:34] They're super close pricing wise. Their specs are super close. One of them got

[59:38] back a little bit late, but they are kind of probably going to be the lower

[59:42] number. So, it's worth evaluating more. Um just making sure that that spec

[59:47] really matches up correctly. Um, and so probably at the next meeting, I would

[59:52] really like to be coming in here with uh a sales agreement so that we can get

[59:57] that truck on order again. Uh, oh, so Tuesday we will know we put

[1:00:06] in for one of the dees grants. So we did a highway truck, I think, through a dees

[1:00:10] grant or at least we had looked at it. >> Um, we that there's still money

[1:00:16] available. That grant was supposed to be completely wrapped up. I think in the

[1:00:20] spring they still had about a million and a half dollars.

[1:00:24] Pretty sure I know all the grants that they've given out since. So they're down

[1:00:27] to probably about $750,000 now. Um with the August 31st was the

[1:00:33] this last deadline period. That'll probably be the end of it would be my

[1:00:37] guess. They'll probably find three places to award grants to or or five for

[1:00:42] smaller vehicles. The max on it is $250,000.

[1:00:46] Um, you know, certainly the the one disadvantage, and I bring it up because

[1:00:51] a budget committee and a member and I have had a lot of conversations about

[1:00:55] it. It would kill any conversation over keeping engine two as a reserve piece,

[1:01:00] the old engine too, which I'm not 100% sold when the new one comes that that

[1:01:06] would even be a good option. If we get the DAS grant, it's not right. We've got

[1:01:09] to punch a hole in the block and cut the frame and send it off to Steen and get a

[1:01:13] few bucks for it. Um, but it's 250,000. The issue is it's a reimbursement grant.

[1:01:20] So, I think it'll be an interesting

[1:01:23] conversation on how what funds we apply to the purchase to make sure that we

[1:01:28] don't screw up the the financial plans that we kind of developed here over the

[1:01:32] last year. Um, because there's really no way to then put that money back into the

[1:01:37] revolving fund because it has to be EMS billing.

[1:01:40] And even if it comes from the CRF, then you've got to, you know, make that sales

[1:01:44] pitch on the floor to say, "Hey, we we didn't plan on using this. We got it as

[1:01:49] a grant, but let's let's return it or put it in the general fund, but then

[1:01:53] kind of everything gets screwed up." So, um, the warrant's an option, but then of

[1:01:59] course, if it doesn't pass, no means no. And we ordered a fire truck 6 months

[1:02:02] before that. So, that could be a big issue.

[1:02:07] Um, so that brings me to uh the revolving fund and I'd like to just hit

[1:02:12] it really quick. There's a lot here. I wasn't planning on talking about it and

[1:02:15] it was kind of last minute just throwing stuff on there. Um, because I think they

[1:02:19] go hand in hand. The revolving fund, the the big concern with the revolving fund

[1:02:23] right now is that we I knew going into this really the first five years was

[1:02:30] going to be the trickiest five years. We've got to get engine 2 ordered and

[1:02:33] paid for. We've got to get A1's replacement ordered and paid for and we

[1:02:37] at least got to get the ladder ordered in that time if not delivered but

[1:02:41] certainly ordered and so um that money needs to be there

[1:02:46] obviously. One of the issues that we're running into which is really good is

[1:02:51] that um we're well down out of that four and five years that it was taken to get

[1:02:57] fire trucks. So, one of the bids right now is uh like the max on it was 800

[1:03:05] days. So, it will put us roughly in November of 2028,

[1:03:09] you know, for like next month if we signed it this month. So, it' be

[1:03:12] November of 2028. Well, that's all fine except if we're

[1:03:17] not making those depos if we're continuing to make those deposits at the

[1:03:21] end of the year like we've done forever, we're probably not going to have enough

[1:03:26] money to pay that bill potentially, right? So the other issue is this. The

[1:03:32] other one is about 600 days which would be May of 2028. I definitely know we're

[1:03:36] going to be struggling at that point. My guess one of the questions knowing

[1:03:42] that that it would be asked and it's a it's an important question from a cash

[1:03:45] standpoint is how many uh sales in the last I asked three, they gave me two

[1:03:51] because that's kind of when the window shrunk. in the last two years have

[1:03:57] I didn't have to ask exceed because none of them have exceeded that timeline from

[1:04:01] that manufacturer in particular. How many have come early? Cuz if it shows up

[1:04:06] at 700 days and I'm we're $100,000 short in that fund. Now we're paying interest

[1:04:11] because we can't pay the bill. Right. So, and the answer was in the last two

[1:04:15] years about 70% they've delivered ahead of time. So my guess is in talking to

[1:04:21] Aaron and and it seems like the big issue really is the chassis and the

[1:04:27] chassis time frames been moving up, moving up, moving up, right, and getting

[1:04:30] shorter. And so now instead of, you know, 2 years to get a chassis, we're

[1:04:34] down that quotes 12 to 14 months to get a chassis. This 600 day one's more like

[1:04:40] 10 to 12 months to get a chassis. They're the same chassis, which means

[1:04:44] this guy will get it early and instead of 800 days, it's going to come in 600

[1:04:48] anyway, regardless of who we go with. So, um, my big ask on the revolving fund

[1:04:55] side is the way that is written up, and I I understand it says up to, and I

[1:05:01] don't I I believe the issue with the language is it's not intended to say,

[1:05:07] and you're the board, you can decide whatever you want, right? It's not

[1:05:10] intended to be, well, some years we could do 400 or some years we could do

[1:05:13] 300 and then some years we could do up to 500. It just sets the max. You could

[1:05:18] only put 500 in there. That's really the intended use of that language. The other

[1:05:23] side of it is it's the first monies that come in from billing revenue.

[1:05:28] I don't really care, right? But what I do care about is in two years time we

[1:05:33] may owe a million, you know, 1.1 maybe a little bit more for this fire truck and

[1:05:41] $3 to $400,000 for the ambulance remount all at the same time when we have if we

[1:05:48] continue to make the deposit $500,000 at a time in December, we're going to have

[1:05:53] about $1.1 million. So we can push the ambulance and that's fine. and it'll get

[1:05:59] more expensive, not as more, you know, much expensive. The other side of it is

[1:06:03] the more that that money is in that fund, the more if it's in the general

[1:06:05] fund, it's getting bank interest. It's in that fund. The trustees have it and

[1:06:09] they're doing a good job earning interest on it. So, I would I would

[1:06:14] really like to see us say, you know, whatever the procedure needs to be, but

[1:06:18] um Christina and I talked about it a lot. You do it quarterly. Quarterly

[1:06:23] still puts you kind of in a bind for the first few years. um maybe at some point

[1:06:28] you change it to quarterly so it's not cumbers as cumbersome on on finance and

[1:06:33] the treasurer but if you go to monthly um and you just oh we took this in last

[1:06:39] month and now by the second meeting of February we're depositing that money in

[1:06:43] June and you can't necessarily say like I wrote it up as $41,666

[1:06:49] right that's >> an arbitrary number

[1:06:52] » well it's 500 divided by 12 right but you you obviously can't do that cuz in

[1:06:57] January our receipts might be $23,000 and then we get to February and ski

[1:07:01] season picks up and we get a lot of ragged checks and it's $65,000.

[1:07:06] Just take it and then once we hit 500, which we're at now, it doesn't

[1:07:10] necessarily reflect in the books, but we're over $500,000 now. So everything

[1:07:15] we collect now for the rest of the year is good money that can go into the

[1:07:19] general fund and help offset the tax rate. Um, and then we just stop doing

[1:07:23] it. And that's great. >> Okay. You know, and it paints to me a

[1:07:26] little bit bigger picture because if you're just doing 416, you come really

[1:07:29] close. But I know most of that 500,000 is going to be in there by May when

[1:07:35] those bills are due, which means there's no real big issue. So that's that's the

[1:07:42] high level and we can get into it.

[1:07:47] » We don't have to keep the structure. >> Okay. Um,

[1:07:51] so I guess here's the most intriguing thing that you just said, which I think

[1:07:54] is awesome. So we've already hit the 500 for the year, right?

[1:07:59] » Um, so then that puts us in a positive position.

[1:08:03] » Yes, we have. But if you're motioning to move that tonight, you can't because

[1:08:07] » I'm not suggesting to do that. All I'm suggesting is is I think we have to do a

[1:08:11] better job of reporting. It's this many calls. It's produced this much. Like we

[1:08:16] just have to have a better way to be able to take a look at that because I

[1:08:20] agree with you monthly if you collected $24,682.79

[1:08:26] last month in in whatever my perspective it should just move and sit over there

[1:08:33] and then it's just there. Um the things that do come to mind though

[1:08:39] like just generically particularly about the ambulance.

[1:08:44] I'm not saying we shouldn't have ambulances, right? So it's this it's the

[1:08:48] same argument I've had before. At no point am I telling you you shouldn't

[1:08:50] have the equipment you need to do the job we need to do.

[1:08:53] » But I do think we have to be articulate in each vehicle we expected to do

[1:08:58] roughly x number of calls. It's it we're we have that load to maintain three

[1:09:04] vehicles. Mhm. >> Right. Um,

[1:09:07] we I don't think we should just talk about the aggregate of we've got a

[1:09:12] thousand calls or whatever whatever the number is. Right. I'm not trying to say

[1:09:16] that because I'm I'm devaluing the things that you guys do because that's

[1:09:20] not the case at all. It's more of we've got three ambulances. We we've set it up

[1:09:25] that way to go in three different directions. And you know, even your

[1:09:28] explanation of the pickup truck earlier is a great one, right? because I cited

[1:09:33] it the other day when we were talking about uh the backho for the highway

[1:09:36] department, right? Hey, it's not quite dead yet. You know, it's almost like the

[1:09:40] Monty Python thing. I'm not dead yet, right? Like that's the thing that I keep

[1:09:44] hearing, right? But like, all right, we still have use, but but to have use

[1:09:50] means there is a maintenance fee, there is fuel, there is there is just stuff

[1:09:54] that goes along with the thing. I think it behooves us to make sure that

[1:09:59] we're justifying that we keep the things,

[1:10:03] » right? So, I just want to make sure that as we kind of go through all this, we we

[1:10:07] evaluate. So, we look at ambulance one and we go, "Okay, now we have three

[1:10:11] vehicles. Here's the call rate. Here's how we look

[1:10:15] at it. They're going out this many times. They're responding this many

[1:10:19] miles." What whatever whatever the good >> criterion is. And I say good because

[1:10:25] sometimes what I would do is I would try to compare us to similar types of

[1:10:29] communities. Okay, they do these things, they have this many things, but but now

[1:10:34] we also provide contract services to these other towns, right? Like it

[1:10:39] doesn't have to be perfect comparisons, but but that way that's how we bring

[1:10:45] along people that aren't experts or professionals in the field.

[1:10:49] » So like that that's the things that I keep like ring in my head. So, like when

[1:10:54] you talk about the the pickup in particular, I'm like, "Okay, when you

[1:10:58] because when you came in last year and we talked about it, I think I asked this

[1:11:01] question last time because I think one of the explanations

[1:11:05] was, hey, we don't have to send the engine when there's an ambulatory call.

[1:11:09] We can send the pickup." >> Mhm.

[1:11:11] » Did we do that? How successful was it? We did it x number of times, which then

[1:11:15] saved us and puts us in a better position for the engine. You know what I

[1:11:18] mean? Like that kind of stuff. >> Yeah.

[1:11:20] » So, there you go. But I I like, by the way, thank you for the table, right?

[1:11:24] Because I think that demonstrates what we talked about last year because one

[1:11:29] way or another to hit that $2 million number that you've got in the bottom

[1:11:33] there at 2032, >> right?

[1:11:35] » We were either keeping it in the general fund and sort

[1:11:39] of squishing it around, not really seeing it, per se,

[1:11:42] » and then going, we still need $2 million or here's how we're going to cash flow

[1:11:49] effectively. Right? So anyway, that's that's my spiel.

[1:11:55] » Christina, how's the overall the general fund? What would the impact to you be if

[1:12:02] this was done monthly? >> I think monthly is better. Um well,

[1:12:07] monthly or >> we'll start with monthly, but

[1:12:11] » I think monthly is better. Um because you're you're spreading out the impact

[1:12:15] over the 12 months instead of we wait till May. We haven't got taxes in. No.

[1:12:20] So, we have to give 400,000 or whatever at that time. It hits us harder if we

[1:12:27] But monthly we're spreading it out and we can plan it.

[1:12:30] » But but the thing is it's it's coming in anyways, right? Like it's sitting there.

[1:12:34] It means we're not borrowing against it is really what it comes out. Correct.

[1:12:40] Cash for things is kind of what I'm getting at.

[1:12:43] » So, right now we're using his money. His money not. we're using the money to

[1:12:50] pay bills potentially, right? >> Um where we have we aren't we haven't

[1:12:54] taken a tan if we don't have to take tan.

[1:12:57] » But I get where he's coming from though because he's planning on that interest

[1:13:01] in those accounts to be able to continue to pay those buy those vehicles.

[1:13:06] » So I just want and I brought it up to you Scott earlier but and I I've said it

[1:13:12] to a few people. So the issue is I would never I I wouldn't sit here

[1:13:18] tonight and say hey starting now we should do this monthly and get you to do

[1:13:23] it. The big reason is right because everybody knows you set tax rate last

[1:13:27] November and last November you anticipated that $500,000 in re or

[1:13:32] $450,000 in revenue being there >> and that's what the tax rate was set on.

[1:13:38] So, not like it's a huge influx or or I mean it's going to I talked about it's

[1:13:42] roughly the 30 potentially 30. But now when you set the tax rate at the end of

[1:13:47] this year, you're not going to be calculating that 500,000 in revenue. So

[1:13:51] that tax rate should be set a little bit more appropriately.

[1:13:55] » Yeah. you know, and you combine that with, you know, like I said to Christina

[1:13:58] earlier next month or later this month, there's whatever the number is, $250,

[1:14:04] $300,000 coming in from the second half of the EMS contracts. And, you know,

[1:14:08] splitting that between April and September helps some cash flow. So, um I

[1:14:13] certainly again I would never have recommended to do it this year because

[1:14:18] » cash flow issues. we would had bigger cash flow issues. But moving forward and

[1:14:23] at least through that tricky period and then maybe you know we reevaluate in a

[1:14:27] few years and say we could go to quarterly because the the purchases are

[1:14:31] spread out more. But to get us through the next couple of years a system like

[1:14:35] that is going to make a ton of sense. >> So I think monthly is better though

[1:14:40] because it does spread >> eventually. I mean, but but I I agree,

[1:14:44] right? Cuz like the whole point isn't like, oh my god, it's a light switch. We

[1:14:48] got we're either on or off. It needs to be how do we get there effectively? And

[1:14:52] it does come back to cash flow. So, it's not going to

[1:14:58] » But we do have to decide what we're moving now.

[1:15:03] Um, if we're going to move something now and

[1:15:08] » I think it'd be a good thing to move something sooner than the end of the

[1:15:11] year because if nothing else, you got a few extra months that you're you're

[1:15:14] earning interest on it and and earning interest on

[1:15:18] 400,000 or whatever, whatever might get moved is a pretty significant number.

[1:15:23] Um, yeah. I guess to to John's point too is,

[1:15:29] you know, even if we said, "Well, let's start this in July of next year or a

[1:15:34] little bit later." The real big one is those that first five months of 2028,

[1:15:39] making sure that that all of that's there because the rest of it is the rest

[1:15:42] of it. I don't have it I haven't factored in earning on a an annual

[1:15:46] basis, right? So, >> anything I figured out interest on that

[1:15:51] fund is is annual anyway. It's just that last 5 to 6 months before those bills

[1:15:57] come due, we need that half, so to speak, um, of that year's deposit.

[1:16:05] So, you know, if it doesn't happen until another, you know, if it takes another

[1:16:08] month or two or we wait till we know there's 500 and then we're just doing it

[1:16:13] once for this year, >> I think I'm happy with it. still there's

[1:16:16] a good plan. >> Since we're in September and we've

[1:16:19] already got the 500, >> do we know roughly I mean projection

[1:16:24] wise what do we think is coming in between the rest of September, October

[1:16:29] and November and December? Like is it another 100,000?

[1:16:33] » You mean for just ambulance patient? I think

[1:16:37] » 100,000 is is would be a conservative number. I think it'll be a little bit

[1:16:41] more than that. Um, and we've got a pretty decent way of at least, you know,

[1:16:46] taking the previous year's numbers and projecting it out against what we've

[1:16:51] seen for increases. So, um, we're at like it's like 530 540, but again,

[1:16:56] that's the number that Ingret gave me for up to the end of August yesterday.

[1:17:00] So, not all of that's been booked, right?

[1:17:03] » The reason I asked the question is is okay, let's just for argument sake, it's

[1:17:07] conservative. It's $100,000, right? So that means it's $635,000

[1:17:12] for the year. >> So we know if there's another hundred

[1:17:14] coming depending on how we move. We we you know we can make a conservative

[1:17:19] estimate and use that in our cash flow calculation.

[1:17:22] » Yeah. my my guess and this is just my two cents like um we maybe do some math

[1:17:32] with what's where with either Deb or with with Ruby and we do the whatever we

[1:17:38] want to move on the 17th like actually do the calculations

[1:17:42] because between now and a couple of weeks I'm not sure it necessarily

[1:17:45] matters >> right

[1:17:47] » but at least you know that way we don't just sort of like pick a number out out

[1:17:51] of the air. >> Yeah.

[1:17:53] Yeah, because if I looked at the system right now, it's only 470,000 booked

[1:17:58] does, but I can see that there are some unooked deposits in the system. So,

[1:18:03] » and again, if we're planning on just using the number for now, 100,000 and

[1:18:07] you know, obviously that's conservative. are great. Then we can sort of back into

[1:18:12] it to figure out what's a good number to move between now and

[1:18:16] » probably by then too I will also come back to you to talk to you about

[1:18:21] um because we only have a million of the tan that we're allowed to take if we

[1:18:26] need to. And um my I'm thinking we should close this tan

[1:18:32] out and open a new one. It's going to cost us $500 in document fees and a

[1:18:37] little bit of legal, but I think it would be better to have the full 1.7

[1:18:41] potentially that we can have than to only have a million if we needed more

[1:18:46] than a million. I don't want to put us in a spot that we have no money. So,

[1:18:50] » yeah, >> but I should know more by the 17th. So,

[1:18:55] » all right. >> Anyways, that's just my two cents on you

[1:19:00] may want to pick a number, but I I'd rather do the math. No, I think we we

[1:19:03] have we'll have the information and we can we can make that decision.

[1:19:08] » I do think the monthly is the way to go. >> Yep.

[1:19:12] » Well, you could. So, >> yeah. one thing. How do you uh how how

[1:19:16] do you feel about making that motion to approve that for starting January 1st?

[1:19:20] We would um issue monthly payments to the cap to the ambulance fund so that

[1:19:28] it's all set for next year or do you feel that we have to make that vote

[1:19:31] every year? >> That'd be monthly until you hit

[1:19:36] basically everything until you hit >> right.

[1:19:40] And if we had to revisit it, you can always revisit it. But I don't know how

[1:19:44] you feel about I I if you're comfortable with the monthly, which I am

[1:19:48] comfortable. I think it's a good plan. Um

[1:19:52] then then we know starting June 1st we're all set. We don't have to talk

[1:19:55] about it again. We just have to figure out what we're doing this year. But next

[1:19:59] year we just start normal. So or do you want to wait and have that discussion

[1:20:04] next week too? Next meeting too. >> Personally, I think we just do them

[1:20:08] together. That way we that way we just have one discussion of the the process

[1:20:12] and the number and how we get between now and the end of the year.

[1:20:17] » Not avoiding it. Just I want to >> just kind of think think a little

[1:20:22] cleaner. >> Yeah. Yeah.

[1:20:26] » Chief, as always, thank you. It's a it's a a lot of information

[1:20:31] talking about uh drinking from a fire hose.

[1:20:35] All right. Uh but um it's it's well worth it and well needed. You know, I

[1:20:46] like you said, we you know, we bought the we were looking at buying a an

[1:20:50] engine u a ladder and we had a committee put together and they decided to

[1:20:56] » and I and I voted for it at the time, but but you're right. It's like, okay,

[1:20:59] well, all of a sudden you have to make a decision. Right. Right. And uh this is I

[1:21:05] think better for us to have long-term planning, long range planning and and

[1:21:10] all of you guys' work on that is is much appreciated.

[1:21:14] » Yeah. Thank you. >> Um

[1:21:18] so I I will just say the only other thing I have is is

[1:21:22] next week uh not next week, next meeting the plan is to come forward with that

[1:21:28] sales agreement once we've you know hashed through all those. They did a ton

[1:21:31] of it today. So, they're probably at that point, but I haven't heard any of

[1:21:34] it yet. So, the, you know, the next meeting, um, we'll have some stuff,

[1:21:40] right? If you're going to spend 1.1 million or whatever that number is, you

[1:21:43] should at least see a picture or drawing of it. So, we'll bring some of that

[1:21:47] stuff. >> Well, hold on. I I brought a picture for

[1:21:49] you today. >> Yeah, there you go.

[1:21:51] » That's it. >> Yeah, that might be our old truck.

[1:21:56] » That's from the guys in River. I was down at Uber today and they were serving

[1:22:00] lunch right out of the pizza. The pizza on right in the back. That's awesome.

[1:22:04] » So, >> literally big fire.

[1:22:06] » Yeah. >> I asked uh one of the manufacturers, you

[1:22:10] know, a bunch of specific questions that I that I think would be interesting. A

[1:22:13] lot of that stuff was around the delivery time stuff.

[1:22:16] » Um particularly around overrun stuff, which we had started hearing was a

[1:22:22] thing. They're claiming it's really not. They have no increases over contract

[1:22:28] price outside of change orders. Right. We really want to see a rolling tray in

[1:22:32] that compartment. It's going to be an extra $2,000. Um, so I have that and

[1:22:38] I'll have it ready in case it gets asked. I certainly whether it's sitting

[1:22:42] here tonight or between now and then, if there's something specific about the

[1:22:47] engine or whatever that you'd like to know, um, that we can have some prep

[1:22:52] time for, that'd be great. But, >> okay. Otherwise, we'll it'll mostly be

[1:22:57] him talking about the engine next in two weeks.

[1:23:00] » Awesome. >> Time to shine.

[1:23:03] » Yeah. >> Time to do something.

[1:23:05] Time to use all that sick time >> that I throw away every year.

[1:23:11] » Yeah. >> All right.

[1:23:13] » Good stuff. >> Cool. Y Thank you guys.

[1:23:15] » Before they leave, sorry. Um, I did want to um I did,

[1:23:21] this is a request that had come in for weeks ago, but I actually will tell

[1:23:26] everybody I dropped the ball, but I did talk to Chris and Chief today, Chief

[1:23:30] Bean and Chief Lurish um about um John Miller had requested going back to a

[1:23:36] quarterly uh quarterly session, a discussion about the public safety

[1:23:40] building and any of the outstanding issues on the building. So, I had

[1:23:44] reached out to Chris and Ben today um and um go we've got a list, but

[1:23:51] apparently there are some new things that we just found out today about

[1:23:55] during our tour, a new item. But I just wanted to touch base on some of the

[1:23:59] stuff that had come up in the quarterly session and then we can let

[1:24:05] Ben know the new item in case he didn't know. But um

[1:24:10] the bathroom um there had been brought up in the quarterly session that the

[1:24:16] pitch was not correct pitch so it was clogging. Um what I told you at the

[1:24:23] quarterly session was that they had changed out the toilet to a powerful

[1:24:26] flush. So I have found out today that that is there's as far as we know there

[1:24:32] have not been any additional issues since that one time shortly after they

[1:24:35] moved in. Oh, okay. >> Yep. So,

[1:24:40] » for the record, I use it frequently. >> Well, it's gonna be all right. Well,

[1:24:45] yeah. Go. >> Whatever it takes.

[1:24:50] » Listen, at the end of the day, it's like obviously, and you guys know this, we

[1:24:54] want you to have the right stuff >> and there's a lot of lot of stuff

[1:24:58] invested in there, right? You know, the sort of the the the biggest

[1:25:04] biggest thing that sends me sort of sideways is when we start the

[1:25:08] conversation with nobody's at fault. At the end of the day, the taxpayers over

[1:25:12] the building no matter what we do, right? So, I'm just trying to make sure

[1:25:16] like we've spent a lot of money on the building. It needs to be a certain way.

[1:25:20] We shouldn't be accepting of a Yeah, that's that's still

[1:25:25] a thing. Like, you know, we should make sure it's right. That's

[1:25:28] » Are you guys in for the tax? >> There's some There's some issues, right?

[1:25:32] There's a few things that kind of are on the list, aren't on the list or or

[1:25:35] things that we've talked about. There's there's phone issues that continue.

[1:25:39] That's outside of the building project. The, you know, maybe the granite curving

[1:25:44] was never the right way. I think it looks great, but um

[1:25:47] » that's a separate issue. >> Yeah. So, there's some granite. You

[1:25:50] might have noticed it today. That's that's out of place. That was

[1:25:54] » Victor had a lot of new people last year. They didn't really start out with

[1:25:57] the same plan as we had the year previous.

[1:26:01] » Couple of pieces got dislodged and we'll continue to to work with Victor and

[1:26:05] figure out getting those replaced. Not rep, but re,

[1:26:08] » you know, fixed up. Um, really the the the three big issues that we've had with

[1:26:14] that building were those ceiling units, the the heater units, um, which was a

[1:26:20] failure of the HVAC company that Grew and took care of.

[1:26:24] » All set. Um, so they're all all three of them are brand new and they've been

[1:26:29] converted for propane use. >> Were those through the whole building?

[1:26:33] » Yeah, cuz >> So there's

[1:26:35] » people didn't want to follow my plan as far as how we how we were going to heat

[1:26:40] the apparatus bay and they got fired up and so it smoked those ones too in in

[1:26:44] our side which very rarely run with that radiant heating. Um, so those got

[1:26:50] replaced, grew took care of it. um the floor pit the floor the drainage pitch

[1:26:56] issue there which it had to be somewhere along the lines because myself and Earl

[1:27:01] metal miss from the state did all the plumbing inspections and everything was

[1:27:05] was in the right spot at the time whatever during installation

[1:27:09] » um and to your point it's somebody's fault but who knows what fault it was we

[1:27:14] did we did you know that was the first and I will say right and Gwin may or may

[1:27:19] not be in business anymore but uh They that was the plan. Hey, let's try this,

[1:27:26] right? Cuz obviously if we, you know, buy a new $500 toilet, that's much

[1:27:31] better than ripping this whole thing up. >> But they were ready. If if it didn't

[1:27:35] work, they were going to rip that whole thing up and figure it out. And I think

[1:27:39] it worked fine. We haven't had any issues with it. Um, and then the one

[1:27:44] kind of outstanding one that that Tim has started to slash has a plan to

[1:27:50] address at the PD is the drainage out of the Sallyport. Um, I was never super in

[1:27:56] love with how we designed that, but the police chief at the time, who was my

[1:28:01] cohort and figuring this out with the building background and the whole nine

[1:28:04] yards, said, "Oh, this will be fine." >> It probably was never going to be fine,

[1:28:09] but that's how we moved forward. um it probably didn't get done even to

[1:28:13] the way he envisioned it, but at that point he wasn't here anymore. So I was

[1:28:17] like, there's a pitch to it. I guess it's fine. Um so I do think using you

[1:28:22] know those those I still can't think of the word that I'm thinking of. But um

[1:28:28] you know just better materials for a wet environment I guess is the best thing

[1:28:32] you know that the plan that Tim has. I think we'll satisfy it. And I said to

[1:28:36] Christine, I said, "At some point down the road,

[1:28:39] we should probably evaluate what it looks like to put a drain in that floor.

[1:28:44] It It's not as simple as it sounds, right? Like, you know, even certainly

[1:28:49] pulling up a bunch of concrete doesn't sound simple at all, but you've got to

[1:28:52] then get the water separator in and then you've got to get uh it out to where the

[1:28:57] sewer tie is, which is basically outside of that first apparatus bay on our side.

[1:29:01] So, um, but if we do ever move forward with top coating it, before that, we

[1:29:08] will at least get a price on it because that's the time to do it obviously, um,

[1:29:12] is before you throw another $200,000 in pavement on top of

[1:29:16] » when it comes to the Sally board in particular, right? So, like the things

[1:29:19] that come to mind for me >> when it comes to the PD, the

[1:29:22] justification when when I was voting for that building was like looking at the PD

[1:29:28] going, they're taking prisoners in through this area.

[1:29:31] » Mhm. >> Down into a bank, you know, all kinds of

[1:29:34] trouble. >> Yeah. Yeah.

[1:29:35] » Now we're in an area significantly better for sure. But like if there's

[1:29:40] water everywhere, there's a chance to to slip and fall. Like there's

[1:29:44] » Sure. >> We shouldn't allow that. And and from a

[1:29:47] taxpayer perspective, we should expect that, hey, we spent almost $5 million

[1:29:51] for a building, it should be >> yeah,

[1:29:56] » well, you know, well situated. >> Yeah. Like I some of that started with

[1:30:00] with the previous fella and you like Jim and he had a lot of great ideas and a

[1:30:05] lot of good input to it. I just I I think he was thinking more from a

[1:30:09] residential usage and that thing is not a residential garage. It's it's they're

[1:30:14] in and out and the winter's the winter and those vehicles they're running and

[1:30:19] the tires they're running, they come in with three yards of snow attached to the

[1:30:24] underside of them and it just all goes, you know.

[1:30:27] » So, I think at least short term the plan to to correct some of it will be good

[1:30:33] and then, you know, long term we'll we'll figure out if we have any options

[1:30:37] to fix it. But that's really the one outstanding thing. You know, there's

[1:30:41] sometimes you walk through there and I hate to say it, but at the end of the

[1:30:44] day, we only built a $5.3 million building, not the 10. You know,

[1:30:51] Northampton did theirs at the same time frame and they spent almost 10,000 on

[1:30:54] it. And sure, you walk through there and go, "Yeah, some of the fit and finish is

[1:30:57] a little bit nicer, but it's still a very functional

[1:31:01] building and and that's what we needed, right? was a functional building with

[1:31:05] the good meeting room space with good training space and and space to kind of

[1:31:10] maybe not expand but at least continue to do our job and train in the apparatus

[1:31:14] bay like we can now. So >> yeah,

[1:31:17] » um the only thing that came up today during the tour was that the CO

[1:31:21] detection unit in the Sally port isn't working right correctly either. So

[1:31:28] that wasn't one of the things that's even on the list I got back from chief

[1:31:32] theme that came up during a tour. So >> yeah, we just dealt with um yeah,

[1:31:39] » is there any company and it's got to be calibrated again and

[1:31:43] » we'll probably do I'll talk to null about that. Okay.

[1:31:47] » He had a plan and and went, you know, they did like a train the trainer deal

[1:31:50] with him on how to calibrate those. So it's probably just due for it. Yep.

[1:31:56] No, Captain Normandon kind of deals with all the building stuff. So,

[1:31:59] » listen, if the from my perspective anyways, if these guys saying they're

[1:32:03] fine and the thing we need to figure out is the sally port effectively like you

[1:32:07] know cuz like again a non-functioning toilet like was making my head want to

[1:32:11] explore because I'm like that is just silly to me. Um

[1:32:16] then we just need to look at building maintenance and go okay you know the

[1:32:21] only other thing I come back to is then also okay how did we tell the

[1:32:25] contractors now we're way outside of it but like from the contractor perspective

[1:32:29] that okay guys we you helped us put this thing in if if

[1:32:34] it's pitching all over like it's pitching based on what we found today

[1:32:39] it's pitching all over the place not incorrectly say in one direction Because

[1:32:44] if it's incorrectly in one direction, you go, "All right, well,

[1:32:47] it's just in the wrong direction." It was a communication. It's pitching all

[1:32:51] over the place. And that's a I think that's a different discussion.

[1:32:56] » But so it sounds like that's the only real issue.

[1:32:59] » Yeah. >> Yeah. And at least to to keep the

[1:33:02] building functional and and whatnot and not damaging it and safe. That I think

[1:33:07] the short-term plan is good. potentially long term it's a bigger thing and we'll

[1:33:12] we'll cross that bridge and >> three and a half years.

[1:33:18] » Sean's gonna give um me a contact name too. Um there's a that does um

[1:33:25] » flooring. Thank you. Epoxy flooring that might be able they might be able to do

[1:33:29] some type of crown with the >> help with the drainage

[1:33:35] » the pitch if they can build it up and >> Yeah.

[1:33:38] » Yeah. that was the cheaper long-term you got to do this now to figure it out and

[1:33:45] then do we look at that or you know do we look at tearing the not the whole

[1:33:49] thing up but doing something with a with a better drain cuz I still think long

[1:33:54] term that's best because that initial plan of well let's have it drain out the

[1:33:58] front door really works at your house when you're backing into your garage and

[1:34:02] going through the main door into the house

[1:34:05] » the door still freezes shut though >> it well the door freezes shut and now

[1:34:08] you've got basically a swimming pool ice rink in

[1:34:11] February outside of the bay cuz if you know two cars were in there and you know

[1:34:16] six yards of of snow and dirt cut off of them. So

[1:34:20] » yeah. No, it's good. We were glad to have you

[1:34:24] guys back again. It doesn't feel like it's been that long, but um

[1:34:30] » Yeah. >> Great.

[1:34:32] » Thanks for putting that together, Christina.

[1:34:34] » All right. I I mean it. I mean it this time. Thank you. Have a good night.

[1:34:38] Thank you.

[1:34:42] » I won't I won't let Christina keep you here

[1:34:44] » any longer. >> Yeah.

[1:34:46] » I won't see you tomorrow. Have a good day. Have a good weekend.

[1:34:52] » Um All righty. Cleaning RFP. >> Um so

[1:34:59] we didn't get uh we got three and what I did was it's under number

[1:35:04] » How'd you put that together? >> What? How'd you put that together?

[1:35:08] » How do you think?

[1:35:13] I was like, "Do this." And they're like, "No, that's wrong. Do it. Fix this." And

[1:35:18] I end up talking back and forth with it. >> Yeah.

[1:35:20] » So, but it came out. So, I really like what I did, though.

[1:35:23] » Absolutely. >> Um, so 11 A is where you see the

[1:35:26] breakdown of the three you and the the ones under it. Um, B, C, and D are the

[1:35:31] quotes that we got in. Um, we were I've got to be very careful. Um,

[1:35:40] we were hoping to come back with um more

[1:35:47] options, but we can't um if you look at the

[1:35:52] annual base price, I mean granted this is going to change a little um too. Let

[1:35:57] me start over. So, water and sewer. Um, I had put into this quote cleaning twice

[1:36:02] a week their bathrooms and and when we realized they didn't they only wanted it

[1:36:07] done twice a month, I'm like, "Okay, great. I that will adjust this price a

[1:36:11] little bit." Um, and but they wanted now want to add the conference room, which

[1:36:16] makes sense because the guys are cleaning it. So, um, so we will adjust.

[1:36:20] So, there are going to be some adjustments, but this gives you a

[1:36:23] breakdown about annual costs. So number one is obviously the least the annual

[1:36:31] cost for all of the buildings that we've included. So the buildings that were

[1:36:35] included in this RFP is this building um this building um twice a week they'll

[1:36:41] clean it. We were also looking at um how much it would cost for carpet cleaning

[1:36:46] twice a year because we haven't been doing that um and the floors are

[1:36:49] starting to look rough. Um we uh the other building is the historic town

[1:36:55] hall. We added that in because um we are cleaning it after or before events in

[1:37:01] order to prep for them. Um bathrooms and mainly we usually hire a different

[1:37:06] company to do the flooring. We are overdue if we are supposed to be doing

[1:37:11] that flooring every 3 years and we haven't done it but it still looked

[1:37:14] good. So I was trying to style a little bit. Um,

[1:37:19] so that included the cleaning for events while the historic town hall is open.

[1:37:24] Um, it also included Kelly Park. Um, we have them clean the bathroom. We have

[1:37:28] them do a full cleaning of the concession building when we open it and

[1:37:31] we have them clean the bathrooms every Thursday during concerts July and

[1:37:36] August. Um, just because we have quite a few people go to concerts and we don't

[1:37:40] the bathrooms need to be clean. Um, especially when you have camp using the

[1:37:44] bathrooms um during the summer. So, and then um a full cleaning usually after

[1:37:50] old home day because it is quite a mess usually after hold home day and then

[1:37:54] we'll close the building down. And then um so water and sewer I told you about

[1:37:59] his highway is also um doing cleaning right now and it's mainly their two

[1:38:04] bathrooms. The one thing I talked them into doing was cleaning their break

[1:38:07] room. So that's been added. So um so the costs are there. So number one um is the

[1:38:16] least. Um it is the the current. Number two is the next highest and then

[1:38:23] number three is totally out of I'm not wouldn't they don't even have anybody

[1:38:28] hired in the area. So they would hire only if they got this contract. So um so

[1:38:33] I wouldn't recommend the third one at all. So um

[1:38:37] » the qu what's the what's the number of cleaning

[1:38:42] differences between the first and second one cuz the first one is basically per

[1:38:48] like I see like you know you get the chart of number two where you're saying

[1:38:53] okay it's 104 times. >> So

[1:38:57] » so if you look >> so it's like so it's twice a week at the

[1:39:00] town offices. >> Oh yeah I did say it's twice a week.

[1:39:02] Yeah. Yeah, that's because it says 104, but like but CB annual

[1:39:09] or Yeah. No. Or or virtuosity annual, right? Like how many times are they

[1:39:13] coming? Are they coming in for the same number of times?

[1:39:16] » Yes. They have to they were when they were bidding, it's the exact same thing

[1:39:20] that I just told you was for the number of cleanings. But Virtuosity, I can

[1:39:24] break it down, too. They gave a per a per everybody gave a price per

[1:39:30] cleaning, but I figured if I showed you the annual that was probably better.

[1:39:34] » Um, so they would have to do exactly the same

[1:39:39] num cleanings as the number one. So >> So

[1:39:45] I'll I'll read between the lines and and say something appropriately hopefully.

[1:39:52] Um

[1:39:57] what is um let me think about how to say this or ask this. Um

[1:40:07] there's there's a

[1:40:12] what would be accomplished or achieved that isn't being achieved by going with

[1:40:17] the second bid?

[1:40:23] » Um I don't know for sure I will because I

[1:40:28] don't know how this second bid person is going to be. I did check their I did

[1:40:33] Google them and check some of their comments. They have a different another

[1:40:36] they've only been in business three years. That's the only thing on the

[1:40:39] second one. Um but they had no bad comments about them anywhere that I

[1:40:44] could see. Um I believe you're

[1:40:52] I believe that um by taking a different a potentially a new

[1:40:58] company, you may see some different changes,

[1:41:01] » right? >> In versus and

[1:41:08] » you may see some different changes. Does sorry does the um

[1:41:13] » I'm sorry. Do these bids represent a different price than does that bid

[1:41:19] represent a different price? >> It is. Yes. So number one is higher than

[1:41:23] what we're paying now. So there would be an increase in the budget because we did

[1:41:26] add but some of that would be booked from we did so right now we're paying

[1:41:34] » no that don't. So, it is higher, but it's probably

[1:41:38] » $3 to $4,000 higher than what we're paying now. But some of that will come

[1:41:42] out of the water and sewer budget because

[1:41:43] » is there currently a contract or do we just have Okay, so this would have a

[1:41:48] contract saying >> this would be a contract.

[1:41:50] » This is what you need to meet >> and what we try we and it doesn't mean

[1:41:56] Yes, this would be there would be a contract that says this is what we need

[1:41:59] to meet. Um, and we have done, it doesn't mean we have to do this, but

[1:42:04] we've offered the possibility of a three-year contract. Um, because then we

[1:42:09] would hold the pricing for three years. Um, except for slight market adjustments

[1:42:14] is what we put into it. So, >> do we have a copy of what their typical

[1:42:20] contract is? >> We're going to create the contract.

[1:42:23] » Good. Oh, >> I would say that given

[1:42:28] given what we're trying to accomplish, I we might spend a few dollars more, but

[1:42:35] I'd rather do a year and see how that works.

[1:42:37] » See how it works. Yeah. >> There's because there's not there's no

[1:42:41] real So, generally when you get to a three-year contract, there's generally

[1:42:45] probably a 10 or 15% sort of benefit. Yeah.

[1:42:49] » Now, there are certain things like um cleaning supplies and certain things

[1:42:53] that are going up over time, right? >> We're paying for we are paying for some

[1:42:57] of that stuff. Part of So, the reason that I put it in for us to stock some of

[1:43:03] that stuff is because um we've had an issue with um smelly bags and people

[1:43:08] can't I will be honest, I bag I couldn't figure out why I kept smelling smoke.

[1:43:13] Yeah, >> I have a sensitive nose apparently. But

[1:43:15] so other people in their offices, it was the bags.

[1:43:19] » Yeah. I guess all I'm saying is >> So we refused, we told

[1:43:22] » I agree with Sean a one-year contract. Number one, to sort of test it out.

[1:43:26] Number two, to >> unless there's a good financial

[1:43:30] incentive. >> Yeah.

[1:43:32] » And this number is going to come down some because I I have to do I do have to

[1:43:37] change the water and sewer because that was in here incorrectly. It wasn't it.

[1:43:42] We put it in for twice a week. We're going to adjust it to twice a month and

[1:43:45] be cleaning the so the conference room. So that will change, but we might be

[1:43:50] able to fine-tune the numbers a little bit better, too, because we estimated

[1:43:54] how many cleanings at the historic town hall based on event usage. We may not

[1:43:59] need that many cleanings. >> Yeah.

[1:44:01] » Um same thing with um Kelly Park. So >> I think we should look at them for their

[1:44:10] background. Yeah, >> your website doesn't give you that comp.

[1:44:13] » It doesn't give you much. It's three years, but but he has three other

[1:44:17] businesses. >> That was my other concern.

[1:44:21] » Virtuosity. >> Yeah,

[1:44:22] » Virtuosity. >> The owner of Virtuosity has um

[1:44:26] » three other businesses from what I found. So, that was my own those are my

[1:44:32] concerns about that one. Um my concerns about number one is I think we just need

[1:44:37] to set some if we chose that really specific ground rules because

[1:44:41] » Yeah, absolutely. And I would I would even build it in that there would be

[1:44:45] like a threemon

[1:44:48] » probationary period. >> Yeah. Basically an opt out clause

[1:44:54] » performance. And I wonder if that value might change too because if that price

[1:44:58] is estimated on what's currently being done, it's not acceptable.

[1:45:02] » Right. >> So,

[1:45:04] » right, >> that's potential. The espe during the

[1:45:07] week, it's not acceptable. >> Yeah,

[1:45:08] » the weekend one is great, but >> So,

[1:45:12] » so that price might also change slightly. So, maybe my best bet is to

[1:45:17] talk with the parties and see how their price would change. Not the number

[1:45:21] three. I don't think I would do anything, but

[1:45:24] » um talk with one and two and give them the adjustments and see what their price

[1:45:29] changes to and bring it back to you on the 17th. Tell them it would be a

[1:45:32] one-year contract and how would that affect their

[1:45:36] » right? >> Yep. Does that sound good to you?

[1:45:41] » Yes. >> Okay.

[1:45:51] All right. Uh, welfare guidelines. >> I did send them out ahead.

[1:45:57] » Um,

[1:46:00] under number. So, we did have them reviewed by the

[1:46:04] town's attorney and we've incorporated the slight changes that he made, which

[1:46:08] were minor changes. Um, one of the things that we didn't take out that he

[1:46:14] recommended to take out was there was a definition of residence and there was a

[1:46:19] we were going to require proof of residence. So,

[1:46:22] » he recommended to take that out because they he that you there is a requirement

[1:46:28] on emergency services that you have to provide. However, there is a new statute

[1:46:34] and I read through the statute with tea um the other day and I feel that we

[1:46:40] based on the statute we can put that leave that language in there um if about

[1:46:46] residency. So that's why we've left it in again that was the only thing that we

[1:46:51] didn't take out that the attorney recommended to take out. So,

[1:46:56] but everything else very um it was just minor um correct of correction of an RSA

[1:47:02] um minor changes. So, I don't know how if you had a chance to go through it um

[1:47:09] when I sent you but um we've cleaned up the copy that's in there. There's two

[1:47:14] copies in there. There's a word copy with some comments on it. Um

[1:47:20] » and then number 12B is the clean copy.

[1:47:29] » The application is pretty straightforward.

[1:47:31] » Yeah, >> she that was definitely a major

[1:47:35] improvement because it went from a he like a 20 something page application. So

[1:47:40] » yeah, >> so if you are comfortable with moving

[1:47:43] forward with this, it has been reviewed by the attorney. It has been re it has

[1:47:48] been incorporated sorry has been it has incorporated the changes from NHMA and

[1:47:54] the new law changes and the attorney has reviewed it. So

[1:47:59] » I thought we could but I had a quick question for it.

[1:48:01] » Yep. >> Under um

[1:48:03] » that there >> I thought it was interesting. So uh

[1:48:07] under section four roles of local governing body it basically says it's

[1:48:11] the select board >> repeat that I was facing section four

[1:48:16] » section four roles of local governing body which is us.

[1:48:19] » Yep. >> So it basically says unless the select

[1:48:22] board uh pro you know uh appoints somebody.

[1:48:27] » So I'm assuming is that going to be t like how how

[1:48:30] » she's hired as a welfare officer by you. So yes she so um What was interesting

[1:48:36] was it also talks about how you know that last paragraph there must be access

[1:48:41] to the program 5 days a week in an emergency a person has to receive

[1:48:45] response within 72 hours. Yes. >> So I just I'm just

[1:48:49] curious. We've got so process-wise we're all good with meeting all of that

[1:48:53] requirements. >> Yes. Yeah. Um we've uh we've made we've

[1:48:57] always been responsive to emergencies within 72 hours, but we do have a

[1:49:01] welfare phone um cell phone that um we also have. One thing we're working on

[1:49:07] changing with the current phone company is that the calls right now the calls

[1:49:11] will not go straight through um to to Tila during the week because we say by

[1:49:17] appointment only. But she feels that she should be able to answer those calls

[1:49:21] Monday through Friday during the day. So we're changing that and she will be

[1:49:24] answering the calls Monday through Friday during the day. So

[1:49:27] » Okay, >> cool.

[1:49:29] » So yes, we are we are meeting them. >> All right, cool. That's it. Just the way

[1:49:33] it called up the RSA for the select board. I was like, okay, how are we

[1:49:36] making sure that we're >> doing that? Right.

[1:49:39] » All right. >> So good. I need a motion and you need to

[1:49:43] sign. So >> Okay. Uh what to just approve it?

[1:49:47] guidelines and the application. >> Yeah.

[1:49:49] » Okay. I'll make a motion that we approve the guidelines and the application for

[1:49:54] the welfare process for the town of personal

[1:49:56] » effective >> effective

[1:49:59] » today. >> Okay. Uh what's

[1:50:02] » September 3rd se effective September 3rd 2026.

[1:50:06] » All right. Second. >> Second. Okay. Thank you. Uh any further

[1:50:10] questions or comments? Hearing none. All those in favor please

[1:50:15] say I. >> I. I those opposed abstensions that's 4.

[1:50:22] » Um >> TA report

[1:50:25] » number 13 is the info only report which has just three things on there. Um

[1:50:32] I'll let you take a look at those and see if you have any questions.

[1:50:54] All right. Under the discussion items, um,

[1:50:59] number one is employee appreciation. And we do that. Oh, it's funny. She told me

[1:51:04] Sean's here on the document. >> We opened it. Why is it telling me Sean

[1:51:11] is here? Um, so under we do every the first of

[1:51:16] every month we do employee recognition for celebrating anniversaries. So

[1:51:21] congratulations on another year with the town of Bristol. Um, we are grateful for

[1:51:26] your continued dedication, positive attitude, and the quality of work you

[1:51:29] bring. Executive Department, we have Ruby Hill, one year. Um, I'm going to

[1:51:35] skip to the next one. Fire department, Ingred Heiden Reich, seven years. Um

[1:51:40] Nicholas Marsh six years and um police department Harold Bulmer

[1:51:47] has been with the crossing guards for 24 years. So yeah

[1:51:52] um TA number two there are pictures of I just it's really funny. Sorry, I just

[1:51:59] got notified. Everybody's here. Uh, number two, the Kelly Park sidewalk.

[1:52:05] Um, second phase of the Kelly Park sidewalk has been cut in and brought to

[1:52:09] subgrade for asphalt. Um, the p there are three pictures in there showing

[1:52:14] that. Victor is contacting GMI this week to confirm the paving when the paving

[1:52:19] will be scheduled. Um, we did find out um yesterday GMI was here marking down

[1:52:25] for Brook Road. >> Saw that. Yeah.

[1:52:27] » So, we anticipate um the start date for both of them to be within I we think

[1:52:31] next week, but I'm saying two to be safe.

[1:52:34] » Okay. >> Um but

[1:52:36] » number three, um there is a volunteer appreciation agenda in your folders.

[1:52:42] I've sent you your invites. I've invited um I've sent all the committees their

[1:52:47] invites. Um arrangements have been made for this year's recipient to attend and

[1:52:53] with some family members. Um, and then, um, I just need to confirm numbers from

[1:52:59] the board. And who's the chef going to be?

[1:53:02] » I I'll be there, right? What day is it? >> Um, I se Friday, September. And Dawn

[1:53:08] can't be there. I already know that. But Friday, September 18th. We have it. Um,

[1:53:13] I did say >> no. So, 6:00 to 8, but I said select

[1:53:17] board members who are available to cook should plan on starting to cook at

[1:53:21] around 5 or 5:30. >> Right. Yeah.

[1:53:23] » So, >> back by popular demand, Scott and I will

[1:53:26] be. >> Okay. So, music has been scheduled.

[1:53:29] They'll play from 5:30 to 8 because we have people arriving at between 5:30 and

[1:53:33] 6. Um, we are doing kind of mirroring mirror. We're kind of copying

[1:53:42] the um the mandatory training barbecue. We

[1:53:46] decided to we use the similar theme. >> Okay. Um, and we are going to play some

[1:53:52] games with this group. >> All righty.

[1:53:55] » So, >> that'll be fun.

[1:53:57] » Yeah. So, um, we're going to do the table challenge, the shout out wall. Um,

[1:54:01] the, uh, we're putting out some guessing games for them. Um, I thought we'd do a

[1:54:07] little bit something different in the building. And, um, I can't tell you

[1:54:12] about the bingo game during public because I can't ruin it, but I will let

[1:54:16] you know that we're doing that. We'll do the recognition. And I still need raffle

[1:54:20] prizes. I've gotten some more, but I only have like five or six. And I

[1:54:25] » I've got a couple. >> I reached out to some vendor. I reached

[1:54:30] out specifically to Stay Rooted. I reached out to the fire department and

[1:54:35] police department asking for them to donate because they have t-shirts and

[1:54:39] sweatshirts or coins. So, I asked them to donate. Um I can't remember who else.

[1:54:43] I've reached out to four or five other people I've emailed and asked if they

[1:54:48] would donate. So, um, we may have a potential to, which I I'll know by the

[1:54:56] 17th and I'll let you know, but we may have some funding to h to pay for some

[1:55:01] of the food. So, if that hopefully that will go through. If it does, I'll let

[1:55:06] you know that. Um, but that's pretty much it. And we don't have to clean up

[1:55:11] that night. We just have to put the food in in the fridge and we can clean it up

[1:55:15] on Monday. So, >> all right.

[1:55:18] » Other than that, are you all I think Scott responded he was coming, but are

[1:55:23] you coming? >> Uh, I got to see. Okay.

[1:55:26] » I'm traveling again. I think I'm traveling that day. We'll find out.

[1:55:30] » Okay. >> That's the day after court.

[1:55:33] » Yeah, it's the day after court. >> Yeah, it's also the end of our quarter.

[1:55:37] So, I got end of the month. So, >> um

[1:55:40] » maybe in Boston >> transfer station stickers is next. So,

[1:55:44] not saying that this is pretty or not, but um in the folder there are some

[1:55:50] samples from other towns that I found. Um it's hard, nobody puts their stickers

[1:55:55] publicly apparently, but very few do. So, and they are not nicel lookinging

[1:55:59] stickers, but you can look in the first folder which says samples found under

[1:56:05] » um >> under TA4. It's the ACT folder transfer

[1:56:09] station stickers. >> Yeah,

[1:56:13] » there's about So, those are the only ones I could find. Those are types of

[1:56:16] samples um that I found. So, you're welcome to look at those. And um I also

[1:56:23] can um found two things that I think were good ideas. Um so, if you look

[1:56:28] under that folder, that folder is sample flyers and signs. So, I'm going to I can

[1:56:34] post it up on the screen. Um,

[1:56:41] I think we should put this at the So, I absent of having a sticker that scans

[1:56:45] and says that you need to do that you need to have can't go through a gate.

[1:56:50] Um, I saw this and I thought we should put this up before they go through

[1:56:56] » the entrance. Not the same wording, but similar. So, you would say transfer

[1:57:01] station permits are required. >> Does that say thank you? You're a smug

[1:57:05] selector. >> Yes.

[1:57:06] » Is that what it says? >> I can't see here. She's a pro.

[1:57:16] » Oh, John. H Oh, thank you for your cooperation.

[1:57:20] » Put my picture there, too. >> We should just just profile. Just a

[1:57:26] sketch profile. Yeah. But the my thoughts are the colors that are valid

[1:57:31] would instead of this it would there would be whatever colors are valid that

[1:57:35] if you don't have one of those stickers on your car don't come through or you're

[1:57:39] not going to be allowed to >> you know potentially. But

[1:57:42] » yeah, >> so that's I I wanted to show you that.

[1:57:45] But I also thought what's the other thing? Wrong mouse. Sorry. I also saw

[1:57:51] this which I thought was interesting. I haven't talked to Chuck yet. Um, but is

[1:57:56] it going to show? No. Stop. Share.

[1:58:04] I saw this in another town. Um, that shows where the sticker should be

[1:58:10] placed. So, and I think the side sticker going

[1:58:14] into the transfer station is probably a better place to put it than on the front

[1:58:18] windshield. But I don't know what truck or or the people at the transfer station

[1:58:22] think. But >> I don't want a sticker on my window.

[1:58:26] » You be quiet. >> If it's a window that goes up and down,

[1:58:30] » you may have a problem. >> Oh, it might pull off. So, we are

[1:58:33] telling them they have to fix it to their front windshield, though.

[1:58:36] » Yeah. >> So,

[1:58:38] » I don't mind where it's at. I think What has Chuck complained about where it's

[1:58:41] at? >> People are

[1:58:47] people that going out the whole window.

[1:58:52] We don't have a better place to suggest though

[1:58:56] stickers. >> But I thought if so if we stick to the

[1:58:59] front then we should do a picture like this too showing placement on the front.

[1:59:03] » I think it might be reasonable to let them put it up like a top corner also.

[1:59:08] » So we could give them alternatives. If we're going to stick to the front, we

[1:59:12] show them placement >> like the right side, bottom corner or

[1:59:15] top corner. The passenger side top or bottom corner.

[1:59:18] » Okay. >> Yep. Some have a fixed window like the

[1:59:21] little triangle fillet window something like that with LDS.

[1:59:26] » So I'm also here cuz we have to get ready to order them to ask you to look

[1:59:31] at >> Did any of them say they produce them

[1:59:34] themselves or are they purchasing them all

[1:59:38] » cuz we talked about printing them right to print them?

[1:59:40] » Yeah. Anything on that? >> Um

[1:59:42] » a lot of they have >> Was that the 13th video that I can't

[1:59:47] listen to? Yeah,

[1:59:49] » sorry. >> It looks like a lot of your samples have

[1:59:52] like license plate number space. >> Well, so

[1:59:54] » and how are they putting that there? I can't believe they're all peeling it off

[1:59:57] and writing on it and then giving it to you.

[2:00:00] » I was going to say that's what we're doing with ours. But um so I did

[2:00:06] Where's my share button?

[2:00:16] So, I didn't make it perfect, obviously, but um I added the town of Bristol

[2:00:24] emblem and this would be a hein. The 12 would be handwritten and the license

[2:00:29] plate would be handwritten, but I wanted to reach back out because I

[2:00:32] know you thought it should be more should be different, should be more

[2:00:36] professional, but I and then this would be the Bristol one. So you can clearly

[2:00:40] see the his Heburn and Bristol as they come in, which could if you're tallying

[2:00:43] them, you could tally them. Um, and you can clearly see the 12th month it

[2:00:49] expires. >> And Hebrew doesn't have a month that

[2:00:51] expires, right? It's all 12. >> Yeah. So they'd all be 12. We actually

[2:00:56] might be able to print all theirs age 12 then.

[2:00:58] » Yeah. >> So, and but ours we would have to handw

[2:01:01] write the month in. >> And the year

[2:01:06] you want the year to be it would be colored. It would be colored.

[2:01:09] » Okay. The whole thing would be colored. >> Mhm. I just couldn't

[2:01:12] » I'm not a I just did it in Word real quick to to show you what it would look

[2:01:17] like. >> Chad would be do color.

[2:01:20] » I could have done that. >> Imagine if I wonder about the crystal

[2:01:25] colors there. And then if the whole thing is like orange or green or pink or

[2:01:29] whatever color. >> I put the color seal in, but the thing

[2:01:32] could be I could just that we also have black and white.

[2:01:34] » Yeah, that might be better. Yeah, I can show you what the black and white looks

[2:01:38] like. >> If you're going to keep the color seal

[2:01:40] and color this sticker, you're probably going to have to block out like a square

[2:01:44] on the seal so it doesn't blend in with the color.

[2:01:46] » Yeah, something like that. >> I can show

[2:01:48] » or maybe just a color stripe across the bottom.

[2:01:51] » I don't know >> what. So, I know it was Scott Sever that

[2:01:56] was concerned about the other drawing that we had done. Is there something

[2:02:00] else you were thinking or just >> No, I think this was a I like this

[2:02:06] direction. >> Where? Sorry, I got lost. Where is it?

[2:02:11] Desktop. I was going to show you the other the We have different So, here's

[2:02:16] another thing. We have word mock markups, too, or mockups or whatever

[2:02:21] they call them that are part of our guidelines for design. Um, let's see. I

[2:02:25] can show you all of them

[2:02:32] here.

[2:02:36] I have to stop sharing. It's blocking my screen. Hang on a second.

[2:02:58] They're going somewhere.

[2:03:03] All right, we have

[2:03:08] see if it'll open.

[2:03:13] I may just leave it on the side because when I open them, it makes me stop

[2:03:17] share. But so there's these are called cabin and mill icons. They're part of

[2:03:21] our the design for the town, too. Um they have the black and white. They have

[2:03:26] the Well, that one's white on white, but um they have the green seal.

[2:03:34] We have the black seal.

[2:03:38] » I think the seal might be not look good in that small image. I think we lose all

[2:03:44] the detail in the wires and things. >> Well, so what's really funny, um he this

[2:03:50] is the prison catalog. So, we looked at their decal, their what

[2:03:57] they offer. >> So, Bristol's one of the ones they

[2:04:00] advertise in their their flyers, our seal. So, so they can do it. We do it on

[2:04:05] the letter head, too. The envelopes, too. Yep.

[2:04:09] » I just lost >> How large are those?

[2:04:11] » Um, this is popular custom sizes. 2 and 12

[2:04:15] in, three in, four, six, eight. So, they can do all of them. I just lost

[2:04:20] something though. It must have fell out. Yeah, the other one is not pulling up.

[2:04:27] Hang on a second. It's cuz I have my blackground. My background is black.

[2:04:37] » Um, here I can show you this one.

[2:04:42] I think I'm going to vote against the seal because I think it at the size it's

[2:04:47] not going to look good. But I think one of the icon iconic kind of images Yeah.

[2:04:53] » So that this is the black seal. Sorry, it took me it wouldn't show.

[2:04:58] » Will be great. >> Is it all?

[2:05:03] » Okay. So you do you think the markup words would be better?

[2:05:07] » I think no seal. I think one of the other images like the what the

[2:05:15] » because it does say Bristol down below. >> Yeah.

[2:05:18] » So maybe just the Oh, here's word markup. I didn't show you those yet.

[2:05:21] Hang on a second. >> I just put it in co-pilot.

[2:05:25] » Go away. >> Did it design something different?

[2:05:29] » Well, of course it did. Same concept. Same concept.

[2:05:32] » So, this one, this one I like actually. So, this might be what you're thinking.

[2:05:42] Come on. So there. Yeah, you don't even need

[2:05:46] » So you could take the Bristol out of the below and just say 2027 transfer station

[2:05:52] permit and put that Bristol markup. >> Yeah,

[2:05:55] » if you're good with that. >> I think so.

[2:05:57] » Okay. >> I think that's it. It just Yeah,

[2:06:02] it uses our brand >> and some of our vehicles have this on

[2:06:06] them >> on the side of them.

[2:06:07] » On the side of them instead of the seal. Yeah.

[2:06:10] » So Okay. Are you good with So if we design I'll design I will put that in

[2:06:16] and show you what it looks like and then um they'll send us a proof when and once

[2:06:22] I get the proof I'll just make sure that you see what it looks like

[2:06:25] » and then ask them about a printer. >> Oh yeah, I got to ask Tom about a

[2:06:30] printer. Let me write that down.

[2:06:35] Yeah, there's got to be a print,

[2:06:39] » you know. >> Worst case, do a label maker. At least

[2:06:44] that would be printed on there. Stick the label on it. It would be legible

[2:06:49] font like consistent white on white or clear. You get the

[2:06:56] clear black lettering with clear background. So, it just goes right over

[2:07:00] that white sticker. >> So,

[2:07:05] breathe. There's a fly in here. Um, all right. I'll ask Belly. Maybe

[2:07:11] what I'll do is bring try to get that information at your next meeting. We do

[2:07:14] have to try and order these right right by your next meeting if we

[2:07:19] are going to order them from the prison or not, but um and go from here.

[2:07:26] » Okay. >> Yeah. It might be too late to do the

[2:07:27] permit thing for this year, >> but if we get the numbers, we'll we can

[2:07:31] put it in the budget. >> Yeah.

[2:07:33] » Yeah. um

[2:07:43] inside scoop. Um she's doing some really re really

[2:07:49] she's doing some really good work with it. I'm going to pull it up on the

[2:07:52] screen. Um we there's some really interesting things

[2:07:57] in here. Um, we're doing some other extra things with it as well, but um,

[2:08:04] computer, we'll pull it up eventually.

[2:08:12] » So, I like the she's done a really nice job with the inside scoop, the colors on

[2:08:17] it, the the September theme. These are the our messages this month were much

[2:08:22] larger than they have been, so they're in there. I'll email these out to you

[2:08:27] too. But um highway department, the library, they've submitted stuff in

[2:08:33] here. We pictures have been in um town clerk, tax collector. One thing I will

[2:08:39] announce publicly too is next week um for mainly for it's for employees. Um

[2:08:46] which is a nice touch from the cemetery trustees, but the select board could go

[2:08:49] if they're available. September 10th um at 10 a.m. at Worthing Cemetery, the

[2:08:54] cemetery trustees are doing a walk and talk event for town employees. Um they

[2:09:01] will it's about an hour long introduction of the trustees, explain

[2:09:04] the responsibilities of the trustees and um take a tour of the cemetery and show

[2:09:09] how they clean the stones. So it's a nice touch from the trustees. Um beaches

[2:09:15] issued their thank you. We will be doing the beach closeout on September 17th. I

[2:09:21] have um Chief Bean, uh Cheryl Harper, and Deb Tivy coming to discuss with the

[2:09:27] board. Um they're concerned about another board member's conversation at

[2:09:32] Corly Postcheck about day passes. Um so we'll have all those conversations

[2:09:36] together. Um transfer station did hold their household hazardous waste tonight.

[2:09:42] Um it was 2 to 6 tonight. Um, so well we he comes in in October, so we'll hold

[2:09:48] and have give a report on how that went in October.

[2:09:52] » Sean and I did attend. >> Yeah,

[2:09:54] » it was >> busy. It usually is.

[2:09:57] » You said when you first opened the line was all the way out to 104.

[2:09:59] » Yeah. >> Yeah.

[2:10:01] » Listen, that's good, right? Because it's just it keeps you from keeping it at

[2:10:04] home and getting it done places it shouldn't be.

[2:10:07] » Um, the fire department, it does introduce the um I'll show you the

[2:10:11] picture. Um, these are our three interns. There's a little information

[2:10:15] about them. Um, Cole Emanuel, Kaden Doherty, and Cole Mobley. Um, the

[2:10:21] interesting thing is they are all from fire families. So, they're um, one is

[2:10:26] the his father is the chief of the Durham Fire Department. Another one um,

[2:10:31] his father is a firefighter paramedic at Windham Fire Department and another one

[2:10:36] is his father is serving as a Nasha firefighter. So, it's kind of

[2:10:41] » that's kind of cool that they're coming from communities pretty far away.

[2:10:44] » Yep. So, um we are going to be there's a wellness article in here. So, see if you

[2:10:51] guys are getting some meat in your days. Non exercise activity thermogenesis

[2:11:00] it's called. So, um water and sewer put um have put some

[2:11:05] information in. It was neat to see the boulder, but I also thought, let me skip

[2:11:10] down. This was actually neat. So, in theirs, they said, um, where is it? Fun

[2:11:19] fact, look at the rates that used to be under the Bristol Aqueduct Company in

[2:11:24] 1894. >> Wow.

[2:11:26] » So, this is what Jeff put in. They were kind of cool to see. So, um, we tried to

[2:11:31] make the page bigger, but so you could see the rates, but it's kind of hard.

[2:11:37] Um like $6 $5 for a water closet. They called them water closet.

[2:11:44] » So >> um private stables you $5.

[2:11:51] » That was a lot of money. >> Yeah. Apothecary was $10. So it's kind

[2:11:56] of neat to see that. Some of this I'm going to try to share out now, too. Um,

[2:11:59] we're going to change the town administrator's corner to the inside

[2:12:02] scoop, but we there's certain things we won't share out, but we'll put that on

[2:12:07] the website. >> That's right.

[2:12:09] » And then these are the next month's challenge. Can you figure out which baby

[2:12:14] I am? But you can't say it. Oh, actually, you can say it because it's

[2:12:19] not really competition. So, there were only six that got submitted. So, can you

[2:12:23] figure out which baby I am?

[2:12:28] No. Number two. Two. >> I'm going to say three.

[2:12:34] » Any other guesses? >> Nope. I'm number five.

[2:12:40] » I'm number five. >> Wow, you're old.

[2:12:42] » Hey, they No, my mother's pictures are

[2:12:47] fading. My They used to style my hair like my

[2:12:51] dad. >> Yeah.

[2:12:53] » With the cowlick. All those awful dresses, too.

[2:12:57] » Oh, I know. >> Yeah.

[2:12:59] » Um, but do you remember the last time the throwback challenge? So, now they

[2:13:03] tell you who's who. So, Vic, so Richard Press, row two, the fourth picture is

[2:13:10] Richard Pitress. Um, Victor is row four, the second

[2:13:15] picture. >> I thought Jeff was up in the top row.

[2:13:18] » Nope. Jeff is row six, third picture. Let me see if I can make it bigger.

[2:13:23] Oops. Sorry. >> I don't think you can see it any better.

[2:13:28] But so Jeff is row six. One, two, three, four, five, six. One, two, three,

[2:13:37] » three. So that's Jeff. And now if you look it up close, it is Jeff. You can

[2:13:43] see it now. You know, but so we thought that was cute. And then the last piece

[2:13:48] to remind you um so we did do some um added some executive um based it off of

[2:13:54] the theme. So Ruby's our chief corn counter. Um Tila is the keeper of the

[2:14:00] pumpkin patch. Um uh Deb is the hay bale coordinator extraordinaire

[2:14:07] and I am an honorary scarecrow and head scarecrow

[2:14:12] and chief crow chaser. So, but um and then just a reminder if

[2:14:19] you are participating in the flu clinic um check with us. If you haven't

[2:14:23] registered, register because if you we're if we don't get 20,

[2:14:29] » we they're going to cancel on us. So, we're only

[2:14:31] » register for that. >> There's I can there's a code here.

[2:14:34] » There's a QR code. It's it's on actually it's

[2:14:37] » scroll down here. Right there. >> Right there.

[2:14:39] » All right. >> So, September 9th, 10 to 1 at the public

[2:14:42] safety building. um if you can where that's where they'll be. You can get um

[2:14:48] flu shot, you can get pneumonia or and you can get um COVID if that if you want

[2:14:53] to. Those are the three you can get. >> Note though, if you've not gotten

[2:14:56] pneumonia before, no pneumonia requires two shots. Yeah, you have to get the

[2:15:00] second one six months later on your own. So,

[2:15:04] » it was in that email also, but it's a link down at the bottom.

[2:15:10] I can send the scoop up to you guys, too, so you can look at it better. All

[2:15:14] right, let me go on.

[2:15:19] Um, fireworks committee is having a closeout meeting on September 9th at

[2:15:23] 8:30 here. Um, I've got the small group coming in to close out the event. So, on

[2:15:29] September 17th, I'll bring in um info about financials

[2:15:34] um and anything that came out of that closeout meeting. Um, Pemath update. So,

[2:15:40] we received from Army Corps. They're beginning to do the final edit of the

[2:15:44] draft partnership agreement this month. They were been apologize that they've

[2:15:49] been very busy with the um summer duties. So, the archaeologist is working

[2:15:54] on the on the NEPA report and has informed us um that they are currently

[2:16:00] in the comment period. uh they've >> I got a comment for

[2:16:04] » the com the comment period goes through

[2:16:09] September 21st. Once that's done, they will be ready to finalize the NEPA cate

[2:16:14] categorical exclusion. And they've also told us um they've received concurrence

[2:16:19] with Shipo already and do not anticipate any any more issues, but we'll keep us

[2:16:26] posted. So, one's

[2:16:30] » great. And then elections.

[2:16:35] I need to make sure that I have three of you there. Next Tuesday.

[2:16:40] » Next Tuesday. >> Yeah,

[2:16:41] » next Tuesday. I said >> the eth.

[2:16:44] » The eth. >> Yep.

[2:16:46] » No, you can stagger it as long as there's three there.

[2:16:50] » Um, but you will have to be there at the the prefer everybody should be there at

[2:16:55] the end of the day for the counting and signing off. So,

[2:16:59] » I wish I had known that sooner. >> Yeah,

[2:17:02] » I can do after. >> I'm so sorry. I told I mentioned it at

[2:17:06] the last meeting. >> I'll be that.

[2:17:07] » But Don can't be there till until 10:00. So, he will be there from 10:00 on. I

[2:17:14] think this is going to be >> Oh, you know, I could probably go What

[2:17:17] time is the polls open? >> 8. They're 8.

[2:17:19] » So, I can probably do I can probably do 8 to 9:45 run from my 10 o'clock or I'll

[2:17:24] do my 10 o'clock in the parking lot >> or do it from here. Oh yeah. Is it here?

[2:17:29] No, >> the voting is here because we couldn't

[2:17:32] get the high school. So voting is here in the historic town hall for September.

[2:17:36] » Um this parking lot is no parking for us.

[2:17:39] » Yeah. So I'll work upstairs. >> So you can come work upstairs

[2:17:44] and I'll go back and forth with you. Okay.

[2:17:46] » I'll book the room for you. >> All right.

[2:17:50] » Okay. Cuz I have a 10 to 12. >> All right.

[2:17:55] » And then two. So, even if you can't be there the whole day, just if you So, we

[2:18:00] um Cheryl is gonna um take care of the coffee and breakfast. Um we're ordering

[2:18:06] sandwich platter. >> Oh, well then I'll be there then

[2:18:08] » for lunch. Um we just we're So, Deb's going to order it tomorrow and we'll

[2:18:12] pick it up Tuesday and then we're ordering

[2:18:16] » it's probably going to be a Hannerford sandwich platter.

[2:18:20] » So, >> and then we'll be ordering pizza.

[2:18:25] vouchers for the vouchers for the shot. >> No, you don't. You won't need it because

[2:18:31] the town is >> No, you need your insurance card.

[2:18:35] » Okay. >> You guys would need your insurance card

[2:18:37] usually, but

[2:18:41] » the town it's covered under our stuff. So, but I Well, that's a question in the

[2:18:47] future. Do we want to

[2:18:52] do we should find out how much they are and if that's something we want

[2:18:57] » covering. >> Um so I just need um any preference on

[2:19:02] where we order the pizza from. Um we are not none of our staff will be parked

[2:19:06] here. Do you feel there's a need for a driver to drive people anywhere? Okay. I

[2:19:13] just want to make sure. Um, the only thing that will be parked here will be

[2:19:17] the town car. We're going to leave that there, but we will all be parked either

[2:19:21] at the church or other places in town. Um, I've already sent that info out to

[2:19:26] the department and to our building. Um, and then

[2:19:32] I don't know what else. I think that covers it because we don't need to do

[2:19:35] anything else. Just

[2:19:39] » this will be the this will be the first election in

[2:19:44] 20 or 30 >> without years

[2:19:48] » with a new >> Yep. Rob

[2:19:51] » Rob was here today testing the ballot. >> So Rob was testing the ballot machine

[2:19:57] today because that's one of the requirements saying hazing event.

[2:20:02] » Yeah. >> Yeah.

[2:20:06] So yeah, um they've already set up the highway's already set up um the building

[2:20:10] because especially with the long weekend, so they've set it up already.

[2:20:14] » Um I've actually given some of the drinks from the be if I have to I'll

[2:20:22] I've given them all the chips and so you'll have all the chips and I've given

[2:20:25] them some of the drinks from the donations for that event. Whatever's

[2:20:29] left, they'll leave for the volunteer appreciation.

[2:20:31] » Fire department has some left. Ah, I have I actually have plenty left. I

[2:20:37] was surprised. So, all right. Um, on my other list real quick.

[2:20:44] » Oh, going back to transfer station stickers.

[2:20:48] Um, John, I'm throwing you under the bus a lot. So, sorry. But John had

[2:20:53] previously talked about not charging for stickers. I needed I need and I think

[2:20:58] that we need to have that quick discussion tonight um to decide if we're

[2:21:03] leaving everything status quo or not because um

[2:21:08] » otherwise we got to change policy, right?

[2:21:10] » We've got to change policy. >> So listen, I'm not saying right now all

[2:21:14] my only point was is why poke people in the eye twice mainly because it's like

[2:21:19] we're doing that. I'm totally fine we leave it be for for now and we kind of

[2:21:24] look at that next year. Good. Like that. >> I mean, how much do we spend on

[2:21:29] stickers? >> Um, Hein pays for their own. Um, and

[2:21:34] they actually, what Cheryl told me today is they have order 800 stickers. Hein,

[2:21:39] » what we pay for stickers? >> Um, I have to look, but last bill I

[2:21:44] thought it was $1,200. >> Well, we collect basically like my point

[2:21:47] was we collect basically like $12,000 or $15,000,

[2:21:52] but it's a $400,000 budget line item. We don't, it's not like we we do cost

[2:21:57] recovery and stickers. That's that was my point. Like I feel like because the

[2:22:02] entire bill is then distributed against all of Bristol,

[2:22:06] everybody should get a sticker. You want a second sticker, then I'm totally fine.

[2:22:10] Like have

[2:22:14] » So he runs a different story, right? Like like that's that's different

[2:22:18] because that allows us to to >> No, I I I get where you're going. That's

[2:22:21] all that other than that because we do charge for solid waste to get rid of

[2:22:25] that. >> But you'd be eliminating that from

[2:22:29] income. >> Yeah.

[2:22:31] » Correct. >> But

[2:22:33] » it would be another thing you'd take out of revenue

[2:22:36] » because if we did cost recovery for stickers, it would be like $160 a

[2:22:40] sticker. That's what you'd pay, >> right? So, so for that matter, let's

[2:22:46] just, you know, you just start doing the math. So, anyway, it's all good. I'm

[2:22:49] selecting the mill ones to charge 160, >> right? Let's

[2:22:54] » let's make it 175. >> Let's keep thinking about it for next

[2:22:57] year and because it might be a really fun message people a good message. Any

[2:23:02] there's no cost to get your sticker. It's easy. It's quick.

[2:23:07] » You're still paying for it. >> Yeah, you're going to make up that in

[2:23:13] the tax, right? Yeah. So, so anyway, so the bottom line is I'm totally good, but

[2:23:16] it's I'm just trying to like it's like everything else the budget discussion,

[2:23:20] right? Like it's it's what's the process? How do we decide? What's the

[2:23:24] budget? >> That's all.

[2:23:27] » I think we didn't tell Cheryl that the account numbers changed. So, I think

[2:23:30] we've been booking them wrong all this time. I'll fix that.

[2:23:38] Maybe we do it at the same time we'll put up a new song or we have a new

[2:23:43] what a reinvention of the >> We don't we don't need to complicate to

[2:23:47] complicate matters. >> Okay, I'm going to put that on hold

[2:23:50] then. Um I'm going to put it I just got an email

[2:23:55] from Lakes Region Planning Commission asking they're going to host a

[2:23:59] Brownsfield meeting on October 6. So Brownsfield grant they have money. Do we

[2:24:04] have any So my question would be do we have any properties that we

[2:24:09] I know that when we did the mil when we did the Eagle Scout Park that was a

[2:24:14] Brownsfield issue at the time. >> Steve, did you have something that you

[2:24:18] wanted? >> Sorry.

[2:24:20] » Oh no. Yeah. Go. >> I can stop and you can

[2:24:24] » Yeah. Yeah. Actually well Well, thank you. I appreciate that. Um, uh, I was

[2:24:30] going to ask the going way back to the beginning of the meeting about the, uh,

[2:24:35] Steve Moore. Thank you. >> I was going to go back to the beginning

[2:24:41] meeting about the the choice of the asbestous remediation. I was trying to

[2:24:46] follow that discussion. >> Did, but did you go with the $7,500 bid?

[2:24:50] Was that what I heard? >> 6500.

[2:24:53] » 6,500. Have you done due diligence on the people who are doing that when

[2:24:57] you're getting rid of them? >> Yeah, they they're a local they're a

[2:25:00] local contractor. They're out of Bristol. They do a ton of demolition

[2:25:03] work >> and asbestous.

[2:25:05] » Yes. That's not stuff you just want done.

[2:25:08] » No, that's that's part of their their >> That's great. That's

[2:25:11] » the name of the It's always wrecking. So, they do do this as

[2:25:16] » Okay. As long as you Yeah, because low bids and that sort of thing could be a

[2:25:20] huge mistake. Yeah. >> Um, second is the concern people may

[2:25:23] have about the thumb stickers. They're too large. You might want to consider

[2:25:27] going with something smaller that might get less push back. I don't know.

[2:25:30] » That's fair. >> Thanks.

[2:25:32] » That is a good comment. The reason we went with the larger was at the request

[2:25:36] of the employees because it was really >> it was really hard to read the

[2:25:41] expiration or and if they and they have to get right up on the

[2:25:47] » We might be able to go smaller though if font.

[2:25:50] » Yeah. >> Right. And if

[2:25:53] » if it's going to be a you can't get in without the sticker because there's some

[2:25:57] sort of >> gate situation. It doesn't matter

[2:26:01] anymore being able to see it. >> So, this is the size now.

[2:26:05] » I was going to say maybe we have some better eyes there, but we probably

[2:26:08] don't. >> You might just want to think about that.

[2:26:10] I mean, you guys are working. >> I think this size is probably We

[2:26:13] probably can't go much smaller than this.

[2:26:15] » Well, I wouldn't go larger, though. >> I wouldn't go larger either.

[2:26:19] » No, that looked larger in the picture, but I think it was just cuz I was

[2:26:22] drawing it in word. I think this size the transfer station really wanted to

[2:26:26] stay with this size. But but I wonder >> it is a good question.

[2:26:31] » We'll take we'll take it under. >> Yep.

[2:26:33] » Well, just that probably is the push back you're getting.

[2:26:36] » Yeah, >> they're too big. But um

[2:26:40] uh I wanted to tell you the town square is really spiffy this summer. You guys

[2:26:46] have done great work there. Taking down that place and opening it up is a huge

[2:26:52] benefit. It's a much better grade. Also, it's a nice little advantage. I just

[2:26:55] wanted to mention that. Um, and I can't think of anything else.

[2:27:01] I thank the chief for quick work on the roundtop fire, which was great.

[2:27:07] » Um, that's it.

[2:27:10] » Thank you. >> No, thank you very much for your

[2:27:12] flexibility. >> No, thank you.

[2:27:14] » Take care. Have a good night. >> We don't want to discourage

[2:27:16] participation. >> Okay.

[2:27:18] » Have a good night. >> You too.

[2:27:22] » Yeah, he took it. >> Maybe some of us

[2:27:24] » here. I know that we do nonpublic sometimes at the beginning of the night

[2:27:28] is because we want to make sure that employees can get home too, but do we

[2:27:33] want to reconsider that at some point or just keep and move it to the end of the

[2:27:38] night so that people can get them public?

[2:27:40] » Maybe we add a we add a general public comment

[2:27:44] » at the earlier. >> Yeah. Um probably I would think um

[2:27:50] maybe after the idea >> after any of the normal stuff like what

[2:27:56] would that be? Sent agenda >> or minutes after we take care of that

[2:28:01] stuff.

[2:28:04] » So after do the pledge the non-public the consent agenda the regular agenda

[2:28:10] items before the TA or before the regular agenda items? I think before the

[2:28:15] regular end because someone just >> wants to come and say their piece about

[2:28:19] something else and then we can have one at the end too with a you know someone

[2:28:24] sat through the meeting and they want to talk about something.

[2:28:28] » Yeah. >> Okay.

[2:28:31] Um, so this is a grant that we can apply for. Um, and they they are hosting a

[2:28:38] meeting to talk about virtually that I can go attend, but I didn't know if you

[2:28:43] still had any. So, it just said Bronzefields are vacant, abandoned,

[2:28:46] underutilized properties where presence or potential presence of hazardous

[2:28:50] substance pollution or contaminant makes redevelopment challenging and costly.

[2:28:55] » So, do they have to be town owned properties? I don't think so because I

[2:28:59] think we've talked about um let's see says that um the per this

[2:29:07] meeting will update everyone on the status of current grant. We still have

[2:29:11] money left to spend and what type of work is available. We will work on

[2:29:14] brainstorming and identify potential Brownsfield sites with your communities.

[2:29:20] LRPC is in the process of developing an application and then the

[2:29:26] manage distribute. So, I think they they would manage and distribute the funds,

[2:29:30] but it doesn't sound like it has to be a town. So, I can attend the meeting and

[2:29:34] then come back if if because it doesn't say when the grants would be due, but

[2:29:38] » I think it's really easy to go on to the dees website and do a uh onetop query.

[2:29:44] » Let me see. uh in the for the town and you know I I was actually just looking

[2:29:51] at some stuff yesterday um

[2:29:56] » cuz I know that the post office parking lot was a brownfield scale site but if

[2:30:00] we're not doing >> anything along the Yeah. Instead of the

[2:30:04] » um but maybe if we're going to do some redevelopment of um our

[2:30:11] » Oh yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah, that' be a good

[2:30:14] » or the or along the bike path by just north of the park.

[2:30:19] » Yep. >> Okay. And the bike path just north of

[2:30:25] Oh, that's right. Because we talked about there, too. Okay.

[2:30:27] » Yep. >> Okay.

[2:30:31] » You know, cuz I was just I just did a quick search. R&D paving has got some of

[2:30:36] this like in Franklin. >> Yeah.

[2:30:38] » It's kind of interesting. >> Yeah. There's quite a few places

[2:30:41] throughout the state still that haven't had anything done with them. I mean, our

[2:30:45] biggest one was the Micro building where the Micro building was the park was, but

[2:30:50] okay, that's that one. Um, >> basically any place that ever had dry

[2:30:55] cleaning >> or or an old

[2:30:59] » or a gas station like the library property was because we had that old gas

[2:31:04] station and then window place before it went away.

[2:31:08] where the library parking lot is used to be a gas station. Yeah.

[2:31:12] » And then a window. >> They got rid of the gas station and then

[2:31:16] it was a window something but and then that got torn down. But um I've gotten

[2:31:22] um feedback from the attorney on short-term rental finally. Um he

[2:31:26] apologized profusely. I will have that um not until your October 1 meeting

[2:31:32] because I have Jo Joann's scheduled for October 1st. Let me make sure I have

[2:31:38] that right. >> One of the things that actually uh I

[2:31:41] don't have that right on that subject and actually was brought up by a by a

[2:31:45] town resident that your next meeting. Sorry.

[2:31:47] » Okay. To redtown resident to me was okay. If you don't do licensing fees

[2:31:53] then you could do an inspection fee for the for the fire department.

[2:32:02] Um he he said that um he's got some comments and suggestions

[2:32:07] concerning the most recent draft which was the last thing that we talked about

[2:32:11] what we wanted to do. >> Okay.

[2:32:13] » But as discussed many times before, the town must be very careful to narrowly

[2:32:18] tailor this process to only addressing life safety issues rather than trying to

[2:32:22] incorporate. >> What I was told was Meredith has a whole

[2:32:24] process in place. >> Yeah, I'll look we'll look at that.

[2:32:28] Yeah, >> but we should be able to bring this back

[2:32:31] and we'll check Meredith before we come back.

[2:32:33] » Did Did you have a chance to speak with that other res or resident

[2:32:39] » that I mentioned to you >> about this that has a place in Florida

[2:32:44] that would be willing to talk to? >> No.

[2:32:47] » Tell you or tell us like what they do in Florida.

[2:32:50] » Did you give me a number to call? >> I give you a name. I'll tell you when.

[2:32:54] » I don't Okay, >> I'll tell you after. I'll

[2:32:56] » after. Yep. if it was August 13th. No kidding.

[2:32:59] » And now's probably a good time. Now that summer's ended, it's probably a good

[2:33:02] time. >> Okay, perfect.

[2:33:03] » The other thing that we got to try to talk to land use and ultimately probably

[2:33:09] the planning board for is uh ADU definitions

[2:33:15] and short-term rentals because I don't believe that our intention is to try to

[2:33:22] have ADUs that are short-term rentals. ADU is fine. All good. Like like we need

[2:33:30] housing for family members. Even if you intend to have an ADU and rent it out.

[2:33:35] » Do you remember Scott if anything was being addressed with ADUs and it wasn't

[2:33:40] this year, right? >> Cuz I think we got to get something on

[2:33:43] the >> Oh, no. Which Scott is on the planning

[2:33:46] board. >> I am.

[2:33:46] » Thank you. >> So, we're

[2:33:51] we decided not to do anything about that new yurt thing.

[2:33:54] » Yep. >> Right. just pronounced the town the

[2:33:56] state now allows us to >> yurts are allowed as residents I think.

[2:34:00] Yep. Okay. >> And so we're just punting on that. No

[2:34:04] one's we can you know we can decide something to make that change. We don't

[2:34:07] have to. >> And then we're look I believe we're

[2:34:11] proposing to reduce the minimum square footage required for an edu.

[2:34:17] » Yes. >> I I guess I guess I'm I'm thinking about

[2:34:20] the not about short-term rentals specifically.

[2:34:22] » No, but I mean think about the chart for a second. We basically say these are the

[2:34:25] zones that short-term rentals are allowed in when that was all concocted

[2:34:29] and worked out. ADUs weren't a thing, >> but ADUs are on the chart now.

[2:34:36] » Right. So, my point is is do ADUs have >> So, ADUs were a thing, but we didn't

[2:34:42] allow them and except for specific rules. What what I'm saying is is should

[2:34:47] the chart be uh amended to say ADU short-term rentals

[2:34:53] like like a category? So that way you don't have to get into the square

[2:34:57] footage and the this and the right because I think when we get into oh it's

[2:35:01] a year it's not a year it's a this. we're gonna drive ourselves nuts

[2:35:06] » versus going, you know what, you can have ADUs all day long, but ADUs have

[2:35:11] » just add a category because then you could say they can exist category

[2:35:16] because those are uses. So, you would have to have a zoning amendment and

[2:35:19] you'd have to pick what districts you're allowing it if you're changing it. So,

[2:35:23] anyways, that's that to me is the >> that's the thing because I I you know,

[2:35:28] in in the spirit of all the law changes, it's all about addressing long-term

[2:35:33] housing, >> but it isn't well, the spirit is

[2:35:37] addressing long-term housing, but it really doesn't address long-term

[2:35:41] housing. >> Sorry,

[2:35:43] » I'm not going to argue that point one way or the other. I'm saying the spirit

[2:35:46] of it is that if again sort of you go back to the all of the pieces from like

[2:35:53] all the budget discussions we end up short-term rentals have just become

[2:35:58] harder I think for us. It doesn't allow us to build our base and when you look

[2:36:03] at the population changes in town over the last 10 years that would just make

[2:36:07] it more complicated. Hang on. >> So, um,

[2:36:11] yeah, accessory dwelling unit isn't even on here, which is problem.

[2:36:16] » Isn't on where? >> It isn't on the chart.

[2:36:19] » Yeah, >> should be.

[2:36:21] » I think it's being added, isn't it? >> Is it Is it being added?

[2:36:25] » Okay. >> Um, we'll double check, but it should

[2:36:29] because it's not on the chart currently. >> I don't think,

[2:36:32] » but it was now the the code. We're We're definitely modifying the language. Yes.

[2:36:38] » To match what the state requires and you have to basically if you're allowed to

[2:36:41] have a house, you're allowed to have an EQ.

[2:36:43] » Yeah, that's correct. So, so there's no I mean from my perspective, I'm not

[2:36:46] trying to fight that. >> I'm trying to I'm trying I'm trying to

[2:36:50] enable what they're asking for which is housing so that we can have folks that

[2:36:56] want to move into town in a reasonable manner versus

[2:37:01] just about short-term rentals. Yep. >> Can I clarify that though? You say

[2:37:05] you're trying to get people who want to move into town for housing. You don't

[2:37:08] want them to be used for short-term rentals.

[2:37:11] » Correct. >> Okay. Can Can you legally restrict them

[2:37:14] though?

[2:37:18] » That's I guess that's a question we would have to check on.

[2:37:22] Um >> I guess I guess if we had a mechanism

[2:37:25] that we were saying ADUs are allowed here and here, whatever whatever we

[2:37:29] would have them before, >> I was thinking the same. They're not

[2:37:33] they're not listed as unall allowable uses cuz they're now with the new law.

[2:37:38] They're pretty much allowed everywhere. Um but we do have a section regulating

[2:37:43] what size they are. >> Okay. Anyways, that's it. That's what I

[2:37:46] was thinking about. >> Okay. Sorry.

[2:37:48] » I I was just hoping we could get them to add that to their list of things to

[2:37:53] consider, >> you know, and how does that work in the

[2:37:57] master plan? Anyways, >> um

[2:38:02] Joe Julian actually is coming next the next meeting September 17th. So I will

[2:38:06] do the bring the short-term stuff back then and hopefully we will

[2:38:11] also have an MS1 at that meeting.

[2:38:16] Um >> looks like we are allowed to regulate

[2:38:21] shortterm rentals via zoning and via permits.

[2:38:25] » Yes. >> And even

[2:38:28] caps it looks like. So yeah, there's all kinds of stuff we can do.

[2:38:32] » That's interesting. We can cap the number the number of nights an owner can

[2:38:37] rent a year. >> Interesting.

[2:38:45] » I mean, the point is is short-term rentals drive investment decisions. Like

[2:38:50] I'm I'm buying the investment property >> versus a family who's trying to move.

[2:38:54] That's all I'm saying. >> Yeah. No, it's there's a balancing act

[2:38:59] for us being the an economy that's driven by the lake and and the

[2:39:04] environment. That's all. >> Not trying to shut anybody out.

[2:39:09] » I also received um a notice to vacate documents from the attorney for the

[2:39:15] property. Um I'm having it served, but I haven't talked to the police chief yet.

[2:39:19] So, I'm having the police department serve it hopefully next week. Um we do

[2:39:24] have to first step is to do the notice to vacate and have it served which would

[2:39:28] show official record of service. Um so I will get the letter signed.

[2:39:34] » Does that does that have a time frame on the

[2:39:36] » Yeah, it says once the letter is fully complete with all the necessary

[2:39:40] information. Um it goes on. Sorry, fil by the letter. It would be

[2:39:46] if um if the occupants do not vacate, I have to notify the attorney after the

[2:39:52] deadline has passed in the notice. So, I think he is recommending

[2:39:59] I think last I checked this it was a 30-day

[2:40:03] Yeah, it's 30 days. So, so if we serve it next week, it won't be until

[2:40:09] » October. >> October. But at least that we're now

[2:40:12] we're moving forward. Um he did apologize profusely that this fell

[2:40:17] through the cracks for him. Um so but he got me three things that were overdue

[2:40:22] this week. So good news. Um his there was a question that came from

[2:40:29] our H&H

[2:40:33] were the people for the bridges, right? So, um, this says, "In our meeting, I

[2:40:38] believe Sean mentioned that the town has historical documentation. Could you

[2:40:41] please connect this? They've introduced me to a person named Carly. Um, to get

[2:40:46] access to this information." Was it the historical society or was it

[2:40:52] » Which bridge were we talking about? >> Um,

[2:40:56] it doesn't say. Well, it says Bristol 43429 project. That doesn't

[2:41:01] » It's the It's the South M. The South Main. It's the South Main version.

[2:41:05] » Yeah. Okay. I was just referring to what was in

[2:41:11] um Muskro's history. >> Okay.

[2:41:14] » The different generations of which is available on internet archive

[2:41:21] and surgery. >> I'll send that to her.

[2:41:29] » And then I think that just went out. I think that's it. Let me

[2:41:37] just double check one thing. I sorted them by select board here. Um

[2:41:43] I did think it was nice to share this comment. Um old home day was this

[2:41:47] weekend. It looked great. And let me that mural when you came down from the

[2:41:52] elementary. I went through the elementary school cuz the parking was so

[2:41:55] full. I parked over here and walked down. when you came across and saw the

[2:42:01] park and saw that mural, it was like, "Holy cow."

[2:42:06] But so this person was a vendor and um said um they just wanted to take a

[2:42:11] moment to say a huge thank you to it's to Les and everyone who helped at the

[2:42:15] first Old Home Day. Um everyone involved in putting together such a wonderful

[2:42:20] event. We had an absolutely fantastic time being part of Bristol Home Day. The

[2:42:24] event was so well organized. The community was amazing and we truly

[2:42:28] appreciated being welcomed as a vendor. It was such a great day for for them and

[2:42:33] we incredibly grateful for all the hard work that went into making it such

[2:42:37] success. So >> nice.

[2:42:39] » So it was really nice. Um they would love to come back. Um and we may

[2:42:43] consider them for the fireworks. So but >> pictures looked awesome.

[2:42:48] » Yeah, they it was nice. So >> looked like there was a low turnout for

[2:42:53] uh the car >> cars. I thought so too. the car, but I

[2:42:56] met three cars headed to Plymouth. So, I was wondering if there was something

[2:42:59] going on that direction >> because on my way down, I met them all

[2:43:04] headed that way. So, but um I that's it.

[2:43:08] » How do the golf carts work out? >> I reserved I don't know.

[2:43:14] » I reserved um to call it Columbbo, but I don't have the golf cart. Um they only

[2:43:18] had one. We only sent one down um because Dan had a different golf cart

[2:43:23] that he was using, too. So, as far as I know, they worked well. So,

[2:43:27] » I did see it buzzing around. >> Yeah.

[2:43:31] » What >> was that? You're on your list.

[2:43:34] » No. No. >> You sound

[2:43:39] I just know they've been a sore spot for a couple for a couple of folks. I didn't

[2:43:44] I didn't know if you were poking the bear.

[2:43:46] » No, I did not. I was not aware of the sore spot.

[2:43:48] » Yeah. >> Wow.

[2:43:50] » You're going to have to tell me that after.

[2:43:53] No, it's no secret. >> Sorry.

[2:43:55] » Oh, for for the story. Oh, >> no. Just that we bought them.

[2:44:00] » Oh, we do need to talk about Right now it's booked to contingency.

[2:44:04] » Um but I looked at I um >> there might be some money in the

[2:44:10] fireworks fund after, but no money left out of the Warren article. So, um so we

[2:44:17] can decide if we're going to leave it under contingency fund or not. Um, even

[2:44:22] if we did leave it, we still have um, we don't have to make that decision

[2:44:29] tonight, but we still have contingency.

[2:44:35] I have one thing to finish paying, which is the downtown plaque. He's It's

[2:44:40] supposed to be um, installed short soon. Once it is, I'll let you know. But based

[2:44:45] on that payment, I still have to pay um, we still have $13,250.

[2:44:51] Okay. >> Um I had to book all of the golf cart

[2:44:53] maintenance to it. >> Yep.

[2:44:55] » Um and the downtown plaque and then we approved the Z monitor and then the

[2:45:00] purchase of the golf carts. So, but Okay.

[2:45:04] » All right, Scott.

[2:45:07] Uh the other thing I have is what's going on at Kelly Park behind the

[2:45:11] softball field. There's no fence up the project.

[2:45:17] » No, they were redoing the the hill. >> Oh, receding the hill. Yeah, the hill

[2:45:20] took a beating during the soft fall season. So,

[2:45:23] » okay. >> Yeah,

[2:45:27] » now's a good time of year. >> Yeah,

[2:45:28] » some grass. >> Okay, I think that's it.

[2:45:33] All right. Um, >> I think we're going to also go out to

[2:45:38] RFP on the lawn care provider. >> Thank you. I was going to bring that up.

[2:45:44] » Um, we did have a conversation. I did tell him that I didn't believe he was

[2:45:48] doing the work. and that he needed to put signs out

[2:45:52] because he hasn't been putting signs out and he's been sick. So,

[2:45:56] » well, and some other Yeah. >> So, yeah. Um, that was on my list. So,

[2:46:00] thank you. >> Yeah.

[2:46:01] » Yep. >> It was brought someone else in town

[2:46:04] mentioned >> that did look so great.

[2:46:07] » Um, it does it looks better than last year, but um last year everything was

[2:46:12] burnt brown, but >> No, not Yeah. Like are they also doing

[2:46:16] the square >> like with the treatments and stuff?

[2:46:19] » Yes. >> Yeah, that needs

[2:46:21] » and this build so they do this building the Eagle Scout Park

[2:46:25] » the square historic town hall supposed to be being done.

[2:46:28] » Yeah. So I I agree that should go up.

[2:46:34] » Excuse me. >> Did we discuss Are we going to do we

[2:46:38] have any projects for more? Is there anything that we're going to propose?

[2:46:41] Um, I think there's a there's a couple that I have in mind, but we haven't

[2:46:46] discussed anything. >> Not yet. We we usually do that right

[2:46:49] after budget. >> Yeah. Okay.

[2:46:52] » But, um, I am I don't have anything specific coming from department heads

[2:46:57] yet, except for the normal capital reserve stuff. Um,

[2:47:01] » but this building, depending on what you want to do, is one of them. So,

[2:47:05] » um, >> and then if we do go out to if we get

[2:47:09] the RFPs done, um, we're also >> kind of cross my feet at the

[2:47:15] » I did. >> Um, if I do, we are talking about RFPs

[2:47:20] on the phone system because we continue to have some issues.

[2:47:23] » Um, and that will require an upfront cost. So, um, to do phones, last time it

[2:47:30] cost us, if I remember correctly, $10,000 upfront and we only paid $280 a

[2:47:35] month. But, >> okay.

[2:47:37] » But it's time because we did this. It we talk about doing some of these things

[2:47:42] five to six. It's been longer than that. We did that phone system in 200.

[2:47:48] » Yes, we moved in here in 19. So, we did it in 2018.

[2:47:53] » All right. So we can >> 2018 we bought these phones.

[2:47:57] » We talked about that a bunch but like there's a hundred ways to to skin that

[2:48:03] right. >> Yeah,

[2:48:05] » especially when we talk about all the issues that the police have fire like

[2:48:09] still have a phone issue like that makes zero sense.

[2:48:11] » They um they've resolved most of it except for two things. So, the delay and

[2:48:16] the

[2:48:20] the delay and the captain's phone isn't working again for some reason. So,

[2:48:24] » huh, >> those are the two things that we've got

[2:48:26] it resolved to down there. Um, but they seem they're the only ones not the only

[2:48:32] Let me rephrase that. They're the ones that seem to be having the biggest

[2:48:35] issues. So, but >> Okay.

[2:48:40] » Okay. Um, I got I got three things, but I'll try to make it fast. One of them is

[2:48:45] um when Victor comes in, I would like us to

[2:48:49] if we can maybe think about the what questions because we said that

[2:48:56] during the vote of the over the backho we said we re you know it would be

[2:49:01] revisited in a year. How do we what are the things that we want to make sure

[2:49:07] what what are the questions that we're going to revisit is I guess the question

[2:49:10] right. So, I'd like to make sure that we sort of at least give them a heads up

[2:49:13] and say, "Hey, let's have that discussion." What is what does success

[2:49:17] look like if you if it then stays? So, that's one. Um to Christina, I don't

[2:49:21] know if you can quickly share it or >> Oh, yeah.

[2:49:24] » that there's a >> I did drop it in the file. So, I think

[2:49:27] it's Let me look. So, there's I I sent Christina

[2:49:32] um >> it was in it was in last week's meeting,

[2:49:35] but we never got to because not last week's meeting, the last meeting because

[2:49:39] it was a long night. >> So, so um basically it's about the lake

[2:49:43] level, >> right? So, in talking to Greg and

[2:49:46] talking to some other folks, they're definitely seeing some of the uh tourist

[2:49:51] stuff sort of tail, you know, fall off a little bit, right? It's anecdotal at

[2:49:55] best right now. There's not like there's hard data, but

[2:49:59] I mean, all you have to do is look at community and you you see a whole bunch

[2:50:02] of people complaining about a hole in their boats.

[2:50:04] » Well, when the boats come out of the water, they're not buying gas. They're

[2:50:07] not going to the stores. There's a bunch of stuff that they're not doing. So,

[2:50:11] basically what that report shows is Dees has said that they use what's called the

[2:50:16] 1982 curve to manage the lake level. >> Okay? And we've been below the curve all

[2:50:21] summer and it and it started really in June. What I'd like to do is this is not

[2:50:26] about telling dees that they did something wrong because I do believe

[2:50:29] honestly that when you look at all the information that's there. They're

[2:50:33] definitely trying to maintain a level. But basically early in the season a lot

[2:50:38] of water was let out and then we we didn't haven't gotten any rain to make

[2:50:42] up the difference. >> Okay. Right.

[2:50:45] » So if we're managing to that curve, how do you recognize it sooner on the front

[2:50:51] end? Because as the as the season goes on, you have more headroom to manage it.

[2:50:55] You you have more ability to let stuff up. You have no ability to to bring more

[2:50:59] in. >> It's in your folders now under number 13

[2:51:03] select board item. >> So, um

[2:51:06] » anyways, all it is is a report that shows you uh rainfall. I tried to do

[2:51:11] rainfall um the curve compared to the height by

[2:51:16] middle of the month. Um, so anyways, I I would like us if it's at all possible to

[2:51:21] figure out how do we communicate with with dees. I'm not sure I'm not sure the

[2:51:26] best mechanism to do that to be honest. >> Um, Greg Wagner did say to me today he

[2:51:32] said you guys should also reach out to NLA. So I'm happy to do that because um

[2:51:38] he said between NLR fishing game and everybody there was they have had a lot

[2:51:42] of discussions around the lake levels too. So they may have some good input.

[2:51:47] Again, this is not about putting the state on their heels or telling them

[2:51:51] that they need to pick a new methodology.

[2:51:54] However, it is evidence of two years in a row that the methodology that you said

[2:52:01] you're using, we're not really tracking to,

[2:52:03] » right? They haven't met. >> So, so, so how do we how do we find

[2:52:07] middle ground? Because one of the primary questions, you'll see it on the

[2:52:10] front page, is if you take a look at the current lake level, we're basically

[2:52:14] almost 5 weeks ahead of schedule. That's taking an entire month out of a

[2:52:19] boating season that isn't very long to begin with.

[2:52:22] » Right. >> So anyway,

[2:52:26] how long ago did they have that discussion? They I remember they had a

[2:52:29] form I think wasn't it in Bridgewater? >> Yeah, it was the town.

[2:52:35] They actually they took they did that me they wrote a report they sent it in the

[2:52:40] US reviewed it sent them back a denial about changing it

[2:52:44] » it got appealed and then I think they got a second denial

[2:52:50] » which I shared those documents with John when he was doing this

[2:52:54] » I'm not suggesting >> but the state change it

[2:52:57] » the state itself had a had like a two-year period where they said we're

[2:53:02] you know we're changing the way we manage it to see if it works. And then

[2:53:09] at the end of that, they went back to the

[2:53:11] » to the 1980s way, >> right? Yeah. Yeah. So again, I'm not

[2:53:15] looking for something different. I'm looking for that to

[2:53:18] » I also think as probably as good as it, you know, it used to be the guy came to

[2:53:23] the dam. >> Yeah.

[2:53:24] » And made an adjustment >> and and left and then he came back a

[2:53:28] couple days later and now everything is automatic. So no one is there,

[2:53:32] » right? They don't see the lake. Y they >> they just see

[2:53:36] » I just I given >> dial on a on a screen.

[2:53:40] » Given our dependence locally, >> we need to figure out how to be engaged

[2:53:47] in a different way. That's all that's really all I'm saying.

[2:53:51] Um yeah,

[2:53:55] » number one. >> No, that was two cuz the first one was

[2:53:58] highway. The second one was >> Yeah, those two.

[2:54:01] » Uh on the highway. Can I um would the

[2:54:05] requirements document be something that you would potentially have?

[2:54:08] » I mean, we could we could use that to flush out. Look at the end of the day.

[2:54:11] All I'm saying is is like >> what are our metrics that we're trying

[2:54:14] to >> That's it. Is it number of hours? Is it

[2:54:16] number of job? I I'm looking for us if we're saying we're going to evaluate

[2:54:21] something at a at a future date, we're going to try this out and see what it

[2:54:24] is, then we should >> How much more did we get done versus

[2:54:28] what we spent? >> Right.

[2:54:30] » Right. Or did and or did the budget go up because of gas or fuel or whatever?

[2:54:36] Yeah. >> Whatever the appropriate criteria.

[2:54:38] » If the budget goes up >> if you overspend

[2:54:42] » 20% not the whole budget but the budget for that machine.

[2:54:45] » Right. >> But we got twice as much done

[2:54:48] » then. Yeah. Exactly.

[2:54:51] » Yeah. >> Right. But if it's 60% and 10% right

[2:54:56] » that it doesn't work >> right. Because if you take today's hours

[2:54:59] and then okay, we think we're going to use it this much.

[2:55:02] » Yeah. >> And then tomorrow's hours is really only

[2:55:04] 10 more, >> right?

[2:55:05] » What was the operating cost, >> right?

[2:55:08] » By hour. >> Yeah.

[2:55:10] » Something to that effect. Um >> Oh, EDC was the last one. So Christine

[2:55:17] and I went back and forth >> um last week about a potential grant and

[2:55:22] we ultimately decided to not >> I thought it was that note. I couldn't

[2:55:26] figure out what that note was. Sorry. >> Okay. So, we ultimately decided to not

[2:55:31] push it. And it was really because it was like, okay, how sort of back to the

[2:55:35] budget discussion, how does how does this help us downtown do development?

[2:55:40] How does it fit into the master plan? Because there's already the um what was

[2:55:44] it the 73? What? >> So, we are downtown. We already have the

[2:55:48] 79E revitalization district. So what this was is an opportunity zone which

[2:55:54] would bring investors in. >> But when we started looking at it, we're

[2:55:57] like, well, where where do we have that we could bring in

[2:56:01] » where the investors, right? >> Which of the properties

[2:56:04] » like there was a lot of stuff and it was like

[2:56:09] it the juice didn't seem worth the squeeze, right? So So ultimately we we

[2:56:12] we passed. But um I just wanted to bring it up so you guys a knew the EDC is

[2:56:18] trying to like figure out way to do some of those things but then you know we're

[2:56:22] also trying to apply pressure to go okay just because we can doesn't mean we

[2:56:26] should. So like whether it's a piece of equipment or a a grant like same rules

[2:56:34] apply like how does it fit? So anyways there you go there's my three things. Go

[2:56:38] ahead. >> Did Bruce Dunner was asking about the

[2:56:43] d the second draft discussion that he made changes to.

[2:56:47] » Were we supposed to bring that here or wait until

[2:56:51] » uh he didn't tell me. I haven't >> heard it on the email.

[2:56:53] » Okay. I he he sent me a text. He wants to get a a drink and talk, but I'll I'll

[2:56:59] talk. >> Okay.

[2:57:01] » And because we can bring it to the next meeting.

[2:57:03] » Y sounds good. >> Got nothing.

[2:57:06] » No. Okay. Just a couple quick things. Um, out of the blue, a couple of kudos.

[2:57:11] Out of the blue, got a text from a non resident taxpayer.

[2:57:17] Hey, just some positive info. Just went to the Bristol. I'm going to say dump,

[2:57:22] but it's the transfer station. Every one of those guys were helping everybody.

[2:57:26] Incredibly clean. Best I've ever seen. The dump work and cleanliness. You

[2:57:32] should be pleased. So, please pass that along. Um, also, uh, I heard from a

[2:57:40] couple of different folks. Just kudos to land use office. Um, and I'll single

[2:57:46] I'll single her I'll single her out. Uh, uh, special kudos to Ashley who is just,

[2:57:53] uh, doing a great job being being the face of the town uh, for folks that are

[2:58:00] that are coming there trying to do things. So again, just, you know,

[2:58:07] they always hear the negative, but they don't always hear the positive. So,

[2:58:10] » I want to pass that along. >> Um,

[2:58:14] I don't know if anything's going to come of it. Um,

[2:58:18] I won't go into the whole story, but I found out I did find out that the dam

[2:58:22] bureau is looking at which properties they should continue to

[2:58:27] own and which properties they shouldn't. So, I did send them a email as a member

[2:58:34] of the select board and the conservation commission about properties along the

[2:58:37] river. I have not received a reply yet, but I'm going to follow up a phone call.

[2:58:43] Um, who asked was it? Somebody asked Oh, no.

[2:58:48] It's Donna about the, you know, the dam. It's um Fenberg that owns that. So, I'll

[2:58:54] I'll talk to her. Yeah. >> Right.

[2:58:59] I'll keep everyone updated on that. Hopefully, something does, but

[2:59:04] » I think they should just give it to us. >> Yeah.

[2:59:09] I did speaking of the comments um I did speak with someone who didn't have a

[2:59:14] good comment but one of my comments back to them was assessing and land use is a

[2:59:19] thankful thankless position. I said they're not often that the you're ever

[2:59:24] going to hear anything good come from that. I said I'm not trying to make

[2:59:27] excuses for them but you have to and this person agreed. though. But

[2:59:31] » yeah, but >> yeah, it's a it's a tough position to be

[2:59:34] in, but >> um I think given everything

[2:59:39] » that we expect of them, I I think the office does a does a great job. Donna,

[2:59:45] Joanne, everyone in that office, Mike, everyone

[2:59:49] does a great job. >> So, just wanted to pass that along.

[2:59:56] » I think that's what I have. Can I have two se uh two seconds at the end for a

[3:00:00] non-public comment? You just remind me. >> Sure.

[3:00:03] » Okay. >> Sure.

[3:00:04] » Other than that, >> public comment.

[3:00:08] » Okay. >> Okay. But is this I I actually speaking

[3:00:12] of the setup, I don't think this is good either because my screen is if I'm

[3:00:17] looking at something >> everyone can see, then I'm like, okay,

[3:00:22] that's not going to work. So, I will have to set something different. But

[3:00:26] » yeah, I mean, oh, whatever. Yeah, thanks.

[3:00:29] » We we we still the reason we keep and so everybody knows who might be watching.

[3:00:33] Um, we're trying to set this up for the potential improvements that we've got to

[3:00:37] do this run before the end of the year. So, we've got the sound improvements

[3:00:41] that we approved to encumber the money from last year.

[3:00:45] So, in order to we have to find what works safetywise, which um and what

[3:00:50] works for people to be able to talk and watch the screen because we're not

[3:00:54] putting another TV in and for us to be able to be heard for CAD stuff to also

[3:01:01] be heard on Zoom because that's been our biggest complaint has been people can't

[3:01:05] hear. >> Yeah. Um, so that's why I keep shifting

[3:01:09] a little, trying to test other spots. But, um, today I was like, hm, he's

[3:01:14] sitting right behind me. I'm not looking at anything non-public, but

[3:01:20] » camera's right behind you, too. >> Yeah. So, that's my con. I was like,

[3:01:23] that was too far away. I couldn't run the screen that far away with this

[3:01:27] setup. With the new setup, I was going to switch that, but they're still behind

[3:01:31] me. >> Unless, but then I'm backwards to the

[3:01:34] TV. Oh man. >> Until we get the new

[3:01:40] » mirror. Yeah. I'll have it sticking out from here.

[3:01:44] » You guys were arguing with the two TVs in here, but that's a different thing.

[3:01:48] » Yeah. >> So

[3:01:49] » So if you're presenting from your laptop, you shouldn't need to see the

[3:01:52] screen that well. >> Well, if so, I have to check and make

[3:01:56] sure it shares. That's the pro. Sometimes it doesn't.

[3:01:58] » You need to be really close to it to see that it shares.

[3:02:01] » Yeah. So, I could turn I could keep my back to the TV and just look at my

[3:02:05] computer >> over here facing that way.

[3:02:07] » Oh, I can't run the m when I need to run up here. I can't run the mouse for

[3:02:13] anything on that computer up front if I need to. So, sometime I have to

[3:02:18] hopefully I don't have to use it hardly at all during the meeting, but

[3:02:24] » we'll deal with that later. >> I have to allow myself to be able to

[3:02:27] share >> um start the meeting. But if I do that

[3:02:31] all before the meeting and then allow myself to share, we could go back here.

[3:02:36] » But >> my whole side panel I was like, "God,

[3:02:40] I'm going to have to sit like this the whole time.

[3:02:44] » We can put you in the hall. I'm sure we can get you a long range wireless

[3:02:48] mouse." >> PC.

[3:02:52] All right. >> Okay. Motion motion to adjourn.

[3:02:55] » No motion nonpublic >> uh pursuant to 91A, A, B, and C.

[3:03:01] » Second. >> Uh just for clarification, it's 91 A3 2

[3:03:08] A B and C. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Yes.

[3:03:10] » Uh >> at 9:10 p.m.

[3:03:12] » Call I. Okay. See you.

Bristol Select Board Meeting 9/3/2026

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