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Good evening. Good evening.
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This special school board
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meeting of the School Board of
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Broward County, Florida to
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adopt the District Educational
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Facilities Plan is now called
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to order. Our primary focus is
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to create a safe and productive
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environment for all
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participants. Please be
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reminded of the exit doors that
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are clearly marked for
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emergency exiting while in the
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boardroom. Refrain from
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obstructing the exit doors. All
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attendees must occupy a seat
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with the exception of media.
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Once the boardroom has reached
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its seating capacity, attendees
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will be directed to a
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designated overflow space,
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which is located in the area
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adjacent to the vending
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machines. If the fire alarm
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sounds, exit the room calmly
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continue outside the building
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and remain there until
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authorities give clearance to
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return. Thank you for your
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cooperation. All please rise
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for the Pledge of Allegiance to
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the flag of the United States
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of America.
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>> I pledge allegiance to the
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flag of the United States of
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America. Republic stands one
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nation under GOD, indivisible,
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with liberty and justice for
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all.
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>> As we p prepa to gin n rr
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speciall s schooboard memeeting,
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wewe are reminded that our vision
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isis 100% proficiency for all
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students. As an a-rated school
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district, our vital task is to
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sustain this achievement. We
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will continue educating all
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students to reach their highest
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potential. Now let's write the
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next chapter together. Today's
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special School Board meeting
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will operate in accordance with
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School Board Policy 1020, and
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the board will review the items
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as advertised and presented by
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the superintendent. The purpose
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of this meeting is for the
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School Board of Broward County,
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Florida to conduct official
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business of the district and
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any other items the board deems
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necessary. Today, the board is
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considering the following
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business. One adopting the
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District Educational Facilities
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Plan for the five years running
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from JULY 1st, 2026 through
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JUNE 30th. JUNE 30th, 2031, the
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superintendent released a
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revised agenda with certain
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changes for this meeting and
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published it on the school
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district's website. The chair
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finds pursuant to section one,
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20.525 Florida statutes, that
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good cause exists for such
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changes and accepts the revised
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agenda. Doctor Hepburn, are
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there any changes? The agenda.
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>> No changes to the agenda.
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MADAM Chair.
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>> MAY I have a motion and a
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second to close the agenda?
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Again moved by DR. Zeman,
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seconded by MRS. Alhadeff. All
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in favor of closing the agenda?
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Let it be known by saying aye.
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Aye. Any opposed? Say no. The
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agenda is now closed. We will
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soon hear from our registered
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public speakers. We ask that
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decorum be maintained and
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civility and respect be shown
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during public comment. Our
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General counsel will assist the
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chair in maintaining decorum
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during this period. We also
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want to remind our public
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speakers of the rules and
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expectations regarding the
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agenda, public comment portion
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of this special school board
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meeting, as well as board
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policy attorney Dupree Bruno,
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please explain the rules of
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public comment.
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>> Thank you, MADAM Chair, and
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good evening. Public comment is
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governed by School Board Policy
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1020 and is intended to provide
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input on the board's duties,
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decisions and the overall
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operation of the school
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district. The school board is
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viewpoint neutral during public
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comment per school board policy,
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1020 public comment procedures
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are as follows. Speakers must
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state their name, city of
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residence and whether they are
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a lobbyist before beginning
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their remarks. All remarks must
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be directed to the board as a
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whole. The board will not
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respond to or engage with
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speakers during public comment,
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and no action will be taken
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unless the item is on the
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agenda. During the agenda
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speaking time, speakers will
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have up to three minutes per
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item and up to one minute on
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motions or amendments per
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meeting, with an additional one
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minute if another motion is
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introduced, a visible timer
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will be used and the microphone
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MAY be turned off when the time
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expires. Speakers must limit
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their comments to agenda. Items
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must remain relevant to the
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specific item. Comments MAY not
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address matters that are
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pending litigation, quasi
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judicial proceedings, active
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investigations or
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administrative hearings,
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solicitation and lobbying
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activities must comply with
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applicable school board
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policies. Abusive language
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defined as profanity
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threatening or name calling is
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prohibited. In addition,
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clapping, hissing, booing,
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shouting, yelling or other
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disruptions from the audience
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are not allowed. Speakers who
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fail to follow proper decorum
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in the chambers will be ruled
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out of order by the board chair.
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Failure to comply MAY result in
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the microphone being turned off
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or a recess being called after
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a warning. The chair MAY also
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direct removal from the meeting
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by law enforcement or the
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Sergeant at Arms. MADAM Chair.
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>> Thank you, Attorney Dupree.
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Now, the board wants to hear
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from the public, and we
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appreciate your cooperation in
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maintaining a respectful,
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orderly and productive meeting.
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Environment MAY have a motion
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and a second on item one Adopt
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District Educational Facilities
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Plan Fiscal Year 2026 2027. The
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motion is made by DR. Zeman.
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Seconded by MRS. Alhadeff. This
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evening is the second of two
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special school board meetings
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for this District Educational
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Facilities Plan. I now turn it
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over to the superintendent, who
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will now give a brief overview
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of the District Educational
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Facilities Plan.
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>> Thank you, MADAM Chair, and
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good evening. I'm pleased to
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submit this district
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Educational Facilities plan for
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the School Board's
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consideration and adoption. I
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want to start by thanking the
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board for its input and a
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special school board meeting on
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JULY 21st, when the tentative
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District Educational Facilities
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plan was approved. At that
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meeting, the board provided
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feedback on the recommendations.
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Today's presentation of the d.
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F p reflects the board's
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priorities and direction. The
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board is aware that the
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district will engage a master
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planner who will provide
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additional information to help
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shape our district as we
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redefine how our facilities
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serve our students. This plan
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addresses key needs in the
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interim until those
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recommendations are brought
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forward. At that time, the d, f,
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p can be amended to incorporate
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those recommendations. I would
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like everyone to know that the
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district and school leadership
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remain committed to providing
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our students with their world
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class education in a safe and
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secure learning environment. We
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are focused on keeping our
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schools safe and implementing
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upgrades previously approved by
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the board, including security
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cameras, public announcement
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systems and other ongoing
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safety enhancements. This
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District Educational Facilities
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Plan continues to deliver the
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commitments made through the
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Smart program as we move
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towards its completion. The
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plan incorporates updated year
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end financial information,
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refined maintenance and
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infrastructure, project
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schedules, and board and staff
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recommendations. Overall, the
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dfp strengthens the district's
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ability to preserve and enhance
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facilities, improve student
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learning environment, improve
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students learning environments,
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address long term capital needs,
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and maintain financial
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stability. Funding is being
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recommended for high priority
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needs, such as facilities
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projects that address critical
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capital needs, including a new
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auditorium at Coral Glades High
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School, the replacement of
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buildings at Mary Bethune
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Elementary Parkway Middle
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School and also Robert c
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Markham Elementary School,
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along with roofing, Hvac and
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other priority facility
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improvements across the
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district. Additional
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investments in physical plant
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operations to preserve district
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facilities through
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beautification initiatives,
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maintenance projects,
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infrastructure renewals and
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system replacements, enhanced
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safety, security and
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sustainability initiatives
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including security systems,
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building automation controls,
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draining improvements,
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stormwater infrastructure and
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and portable demolitions,
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strategic technology and
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student support investments
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including erp implementation,
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network infrastructure, music
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and academic program, equipment
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replacement, athletic
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improvements, and district wide
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capital improvement needs. We
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appreciate the board's support
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for these important capital
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funding needs. Now, I'll turn
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it over to the Chief Financial
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Officer and the finance staff,
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and they'll make a presentation,
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and we'll answer any questions
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you MAY have afterwards.
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>> Thank you, Doctor Hepburn.
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Omar Shim, task assigned Chief
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Financial Officer. And I'd like
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to introduce Rafiki Brown who
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will go through the slides.
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He's the task assigned director
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of capital budget. Thank you.
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>> Good evening. Thank you,
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MADAM Chair, board members and
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Doctor Hepburn. The purpose of
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this second special school
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board meeting is to discuss and
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adopt the District Education
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Facilities Plan. As a reminder,
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the district continues to
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advance its redefining process
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and will engage a master
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planner to help shape our long
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term facility strategy. Also,
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the dfp is a living document
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and has priorities and needs
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evolve. Budget amendments MAY
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be presented to the board for
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consideration throughout the
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fiscal year. Next slide please.
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>> Oh, we have it here.
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>> As the superintendent
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mentioned, I would also like to
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thank the board for its
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feedback and approval of the
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tentative dfp in JULY. The plan
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before you tonight incorporates
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that feedback. The feedback at
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that meeting. This presentation
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is intended to highlight the
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key elements of the detailed
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plan that you have presented to
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you tonight. Following the
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presentation, the board will
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have an opportunity to provide
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additional feedback, and staff
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is available to answer any
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questions. This slide shows the
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projected capital revenues for
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the next five years, totaling
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approximately $4 billion. The
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board has already reviewed
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these revenue projections,
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which remain unchanged since
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the tentative. Since that time,
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the fiscal year. Fiscal year
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end. Fiscal. Sorry. Excuse me.
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Fiscal year end activities and
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account reconciliations have
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been finalized based on those
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final balances. Unallocated
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carryover is 59 million and 416
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million is dedicated to ongoing
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capital projects. Next slide.
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All right. Appropriations. The
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appropriations also remain
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largely unchanged from the
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tentative. However, since then,
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staff has added greater detail
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to provide more transparency to
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the school by school projects
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and district wide maintenance
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programs. The additional
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information and maintenance
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infrastructure sustainability
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programs can be found in the
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appendices. This slide is a
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summary of the new funding
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recommendations. And again, the
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board has previously seen this
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at the tentative. The one item
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I would like to highlight is
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the additional $23 million
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included for ppo plan
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maintenance initiatives. This
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funding is above and beyond the
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maintenance funding funded.
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Included in last year's dfp and
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reflects the district's
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continued focus on improving
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the condition and parent and or
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the appearance of our schools.
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The plan also accelerated
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investments in maintenance
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initiatives to include painting,
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additional painting and
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beautification projects. The
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proposed Cops financing
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included in this plan made this
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acceleration possible. The last
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thing I'd like to go over is on
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this slide. The additional
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considerations the board has as
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we look ahead, we must continue
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to develop our long range
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facilities plan with both
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foresight and flexibility as we
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advance the redefining efforts
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and address to address the
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challenges of declining
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enrollment. As discussed, the
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district does have debt
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capacity to fund eligible
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capital projects, and with that,
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we'll go ahead and end the
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presentation, keep it kind of
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short tonight and answer any
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questions you MAY have.
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>> Thank you. Board member
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discussion, MISS Hixon.
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>> Thank you. I have a couple
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of motions to make. So, MR.
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Hill, can you pass out the. I
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typed them up so as he's
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passing them out, I'll just
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tell you that some of the items
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came from a discussion that the
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City of Coral Springs had about
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jp Taravella and some other
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projects that they were doing
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with the district, with the
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district so attached with.
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There's two. There's the letter
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from Tara from Coral Springs
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Commission stating what they're
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willing to to partner with us
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in the hopes of being able to
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pass some of the things that
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are on my motions. So I just
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wanted to put that into context
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as we go through. So on page
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144 of the actual dfp, it talks
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about bleachers. And on there
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we have bleacher repair and
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replacement replacing exterior
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bleachers, but bleachers, but
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there's nowhere on there for
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the four schools that have no
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bleachers at all. So my motion
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is to add bleachers for
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Taravella, West Broward,
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Monarch and Hollywood Hills
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High. That cost is
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approximately $500,000 per
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school, and those bleachers
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would come along with the
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artificial turf, which is my
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next motion. So I move to add
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bleachers to jp Taravella, West
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Broward Monarch and Hollywood
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Hills High for $500,000 per
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school to the defp for this
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this fiscal year.
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>> Second. Second motion made
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by MISS Hixon. Seconded by MISS
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Rupert. Public comment on the
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Motion Board member discussion.
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All in favor of the motion, say
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aye.
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>> Aye.
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>> All opposed? Say no. Motion
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passes unanimously.
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>> Thank you. With that also in
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mind, my second motion is we
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also and I can't find it in
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here in the d. Well, on page
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129 of the defp, it shows where
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we made motions about putting
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artificial turfs on to the high
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schools. But there were four
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schools, the same schools we
[14:44]
just added bleachers to that
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were left off the list for
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artificial turfs. So my motion
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is to add j p Taravella West
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Broward, Monarch and Hollywood
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Hills to the list of schools
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that will receive artificial
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turf fields.
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>> Second motion made by MISS
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Hixon, seconded by MISS Rupert.
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Public comment on the motion
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Board member discussion. DR.
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Zeman.
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>> Thanks, chair. I'm curious
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about the superintendent's
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priorities for artificial turf
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fields. This was not included.
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Doctor Hepburn, in your
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recommendation for the capital
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budget for this year. So let me
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just start with what would the
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total cost of those four
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artificial turf fields be?
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>> Staff. We don't. A total
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cost for the additional four.
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>> Good afternoon. Mark Dorsey,
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task assigned chief facilities
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officer there at right at. For
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the turf fields $2 million per
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field.
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>> Terrific. And that answers
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the cost question doctor
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Hepburn we have schools all
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over Broward County. These four
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are deserving of synthetic turf
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field like all of our schools
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are. Are these the four that
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would make the most sense in
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terms of overall prioritization
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of our need for athletic fields?
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>> Yeah. These four were not
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added on the list because there
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were no bleachers. And since
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the I think the first motion
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passed. So now there's
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bleachers. So that's the reason
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why these four were never on
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the list because there were no
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bleachers.
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>> Terrific. But would these
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four places be the highest
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priority for Broward County
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schools to put artificial turf
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bleachers?
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>> There's a kind of evaluation
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or criteria system that we used
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as far as who goes first, who
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goes second. So the
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prioritization would be based
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off of need. Athletic field use.
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Not purchase orders,
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maintenance and.
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>> Maintenance of the current
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field fields.
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>> Go ahead. If anything else,
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Doctor Wanza or MR. Dorsett.
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>> It's based on current
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conditions and the need for the
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fields. There are some of them
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that we can wait as far as
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getting installed, but they
[16:56]
need to be on the list because
[16:57]
they weren't accounted for at
[16:58]
all.
[16:59]
>> Let me just clarify, DR.
[17:02]
Zeman this isn't to say they're
[17:03]
next on the list. Every other
[17:05]
high school except these four
[17:07]
are already on the list. It's
[17:09]
just to add them. So wherever
[17:11]
they fit in the schedule,
[17:12]
they'll be added. But right now
[17:14]
they're not in consideration at
[17:16]
all because they didn't have
[17:17]
bleachers. So I just wanted to
[17:18]
clarify that.
[17:20]
>> For you. That makes it real
[17:21]
easy. The motion, though, isn't
[17:23]
year specific. It's really.
[17:24]
>> Just to add them.
[17:26]
>> When it makes sense.
[17:26]
>> Correct.
[17:28]
>> I would ask our general
[17:30]
counsel, is it okay in a budget
[17:32]
discussion to not allocate
[17:35]
funds to years? Can we say it's
[17:36]
$8 million over the five years
[17:40]
of the d e, f p plan as it fits,
[17:41]
or do we have to be more
[17:47]
specific?
[17:49]
>> The question is whether or
[17:51]
not you can bind another board,
[17:53]
because if you're doing it over
[17:54]
multiple years, then you're
[17:57]
binding another board. You can
[17:58]
say that with the understanding
[17:59]
that the other board MAY
[18:01]
reverse it at some point.
[18:03]
>> No, totally. So this whole
[18:05]
budget document takes money,
[18:06]
puts it in years and categories,
[18:08]
right? This is a motion saying,
[18:10]
hey, we want to do it, but it's
[18:12]
got to make sense, which I love.
[18:14]
Right? But how do we put $8
[18:16]
million in a budget document
[18:17]
without identifying the year
[18:19]
that we're encumbering the
[18:20]
funds?
[18:22]
>> I think that's more of an
[18:24]
operational question than a
[18:25]
legal question.
[18:25]
>> Well, it would be
[18:27]
operational, except I have to
[18:28]
vote on this budget, and I
[18:30]
don't know how to vote on a
[18:31]
budget when it doesn't have
[18:33]
these dollars allocated by year.
[18:35]
>> If I if I could jump in, we
[18:36]
kind of have already done that,
[18:38]
though, because we've said all
[18:42]
the other ten. What was it, 14
[18:44]
schools total, this, that, that
[18:46]
we were going to do turf fields
[18:47]
and that they would make a
[18:49]
schedule based on all of the
[18:51]
criteria they just told you. So
[18:52]
this isn't doing anything
[18:54]
different than we've already
[18:55]
done with all the other high
[18:56]
schools. It's just adding them
[18:57]
to the list.
[18:59]
>> So we're going from 14 to 18
[19:00]
high schools getting turf
[19:01]
fields. What year is the funds
[19:04]
spread around? Is that all next
[19:06]
year or what? How many years is
[19:07]
that spread out over the think
[19:09]
or I could look it up. I'm
[19:10]
sorry. I just don't know which
[19:11]
page.
[19:12]
>> We have three more years. So
[19:14]
we we've done we did last year,
[19:16]
the year. So we have installed
[19:20]
them at. What's nine schools
[19:21]
currently. Right. And so we
[19:23]
have like a five year plan to
[19:25]
get it to get all the schools
[19:27]
done. As MISS Hixon said, these
[19:30]
schools are not listed in the
[19:32]
schools that we were that were
[19:33]
the board had committed to
[19:35]
installing fields.
[19:38]
>> So it's fy 27, 2829. The
[19:40]
next three years, correct?
[19:41]
>> Yes, yes.
[19:43]
>> So it was a five year plan
[19:44]
and three years left.
[19:45]
>> So great. So that eliminates
[19:47]
the the, the board member issue,
[19:49]
which is we have to approve a
[19:50]
budget that puts money into
[19:51]
specific years. So thank you
[19:53]
for putting us all together now.
[19:54]
>> And I'll just add to you
[19:56]
have to approve a five year
[20:00]
plan anyhow, so that's fine.
[20:01]
>> MISS Thompson.
[20:03]
>> I just had a question
[20:04]
because I at least I know West
[20:06]
Broward doesn't have lights, so
[20:08]
they can't play games on their
[20:09]
field anyway so that.
[20:11]
>> They can't. When I spoke to
[20:12]
the principal, if they could
[20:13]
get bleachers in the field,
[20:15]
they could do like Hollywood
[20:17]
Hills does and do 4:00 games.
[20:19]
>> Well, that's what they've
[20:20]
been doing. Now. I'm just
[20:21]
saying, if we're I guess I'll
[20:23]
bring this up for your next
[20:24]
motion. But if we're investing
[20:26]
all this into fields and we
[20:28]
don't have lights so they can't
[20:29]
play games, then I don't see
[20:32]
the point of it. So I will hold
[20:33]
that.
[20:34]
>> But they can't they can't
[20:36]
have games. They're happy. I
[20:38]
mean, I spoke to the principal.
[20:38]
So she.
[20:39]
>> I've also been speaking with
[20:41]
this principal for the stadium
[20:43]
for the last two and a half
[20:45]
years now. So that's why I'm
[20:45]
bringing this up.
[20:48]
>> Yeah. And to that point,
[20:51]
like for Taravella, the the
[20:53]
city has agreed to do the
[20:55]
lights. So we were hoping to
[20:57]
use that to talk to other
[20:58]
people. And if I'm not mistaken,
[21:00]
West Broward has a partner who,
[21:03]
if they see we're putting the
[21:04]
investment in, could possibly
[21:07]
cover the cost of, of the
[21:08]
lights and other additional
[21:11]
things at the school. So I
[21:13]
think that would eliminate that
[21:14]
concern.
[21:17]
>> MISS Bulman.
[21:20]
>> What is the I mean, I know
[21:22]
that everything would vary from
[21:24]
place to place, but how does
[21:25]
anyone have an estimate of how
[21:27]
much it would cost to put
[21:28]
lights in on a football field?
[21:30]
>> Million dollars.
[21:31]
>> 2 million.
[21:33]
>> I can pull up the estimate I
[21:34]
got for West Broward. Give me a
[21:35]
second.
[21:37]
>> And does anyone know how
[21:39]
much money we lose? Like, I
[21:40]
know that there's a disparity
[21:43]
because the the schools that
[21:44]
can host football games and
[21:46]
things of that nature have the
[21:48]
opportunity to raise money. And
[21:50]
the ones that don't do not have
[21:52]
that. Does anyone have the
[21:55]
numbers on that or approximate.
[21:57]
>> As far as revenue from gates
[21:59]
from football? Yeah. And I want
[22:01]
to say from the Wanza, even if
[22:02]
they play at another field for
[22:04]
their home game, they actually
[22:06]
keep the gate.
[22:07]
>> Yes, when they play it or
[22:10]
not. So if J.P. Taravella
[22:11]
played their home games at
[22:13]
Coral Springs, jp Taravella
[22:14]
gets the money for the gate.
[22:16]
The Coral Springs High doesn't
[22:19]
keep it, if that's the question.
[22:21]
Yeah.
[22:22]
>> But no, the question is how
[22:24]
much do they how much is how
[22:26]
much are we getting at the gate?
[22:27]
>> So that that depends on
[22:29]
crowd size. Right. You know,
[22:30]
the the tickets are the ticket
[22:32]
cost. And then there's a little
[22:33]
adadmistrative fee and it
[22:34]
depends on crowd s se. I've
[22:36]
be to schoooo w wh homee
[22:38]
fields in a v very smallrowdwd
[22:39]
size. It just depends on crowd
[22:41]
size and it varies, but we can
[22:42]
certainly provide a follow up,
[22:43]
Doctor Hepburn, that we can
[22:45]
take an analysis over. You know,
[22:47]
a couple a year or two of a
[22:49]
football season to give the
[22:52]
board a better idea of how much
[22:54]
it is. But I don't I do not
[22:55]
know right off the top of my
[22:56]
head.
[22:57]
>> Okay, thanks. So we'd be
[22:59]
looking at about $8 million to
[23:00]
put lights in on four fields,
[23:04]
plus the 2 million for the
[23:06]
bleachers and another. What did
[23:08]
we say? How much were the turf
[23:09]
fields?
[23:14]
>> 2 million per 8 million.
[23:14]
>> Okay.
[23:16]
>> All right, well.
[23:18]
>> Just keep it in mind.
[23:21]
>> MISS Thompson.
[23:22]
>> The estimate I got was 1.2
[23:25]
for for for poles and fixtures.
[23:28]
So probably with labor sharing
[23:30]
that.
[23:32]
>> MRS. Alhadeff.
[23:34]
>> My question is to Doctor
[23:36]
Hepburn. If the board approves
[23:40]
all of these motions, where
[23:42]
exactly is the money coming
[23:44]
from the budget.
[23:46]
>> Go ahead, MR. CHAIRMAN.
[23:48]
>> It would come from the
[23:50]
unallocated reserve and
[23:52]
currently in the plan, we're
[23:53]
starting off the year with
[23:58]
about $71.71 million.
[23:59]
>> In allocated.
[24:01]
>> And how does that affect our
[24:02]
fund balance?
[24:04]
>> It's capital dollars. So it
[24:06]
doesn't impact the general fund
[24:08]
balance at all. Okay.
[24:10]
>> We do have in our fund
[24:12]
balance policy, we do have a
[24:13]
goal in the capital plan as
[24:16]
well. And that's around 50
[24:19]
million is our rough goal. So
[24:20]
we are above that currently
[24:26]
with this unallocated reserve.
[24:31]
>> Anyone else on the motion?
[24:32]
All in favor of the motion. Say
[24:33]
aye.
[24:34]
>> Aye aye.
[24:37]
>> All opposed. Say no. Motion
[24:38]
passes unanimously.
[24:40]
>> Thank you. Along those lines
[24:44]
as well. On both page 129 and
[24:46]
150, it addresses video
[24:47]
scoreboards for schools that
[24:50]
are receiving artificial turfs.
[24:52]
So that's where this motion
[24:54]
comes from. So I moved to
[24:55]
include video scoreboards at
[24:57]
all schools receiving
[24:58]
artificial turf fields,
[25:00]
including the remaining 14
[25:02]
schools scheduled to receive
[25:04]
artificial turf fields and
[25:06]
additional cost of 500 000 per
[25:08]
school, with installation
[25:09]
occurring concurrently with the
[25:11]
turf project, which is what's
[25:14]
happening now to provide video
[25:15]
scoreboards as needed at
[25:17]
schools where artificial turf
[25:18]
fields already have been
[25:20]
installed. So some video boards
[25:22]
have already been installed so
[25:24]
we don't have to go backwards.
[25:26]
But some of those nine didn't
[25:28]
get video scoreboards and it's
[25:30]
not in the dfp. It's in there
[25:32]
for two of them. And then
[25:33]
moving forward, if you're doing
[25:36]
the turf fields, it just makes
[25:38]
sense because we're doing it
[25:41]
already with the ones that are
[25:43]
have been done for some of them
[25:44]
to put the video scoreboards in
[25:47]
at the same time. So that's one
[25:48]
motion.
[25:51]
>> Is there a second. Second
[25:52]
motion made by MISS Hixon,
[25:55]
seconded by MISS Rupert public
[25:58]
comment on the motion board
[25:59]
member discussion. I know MR.
[26:03]
Shim and staff want to speak.
[26:04]
You're flagging me?
[26:06]
>> Yes. Through the chair on
[26:09]
page 88. There are scoreboard
[26:10]
replacements scheduled
[26:11]
throughout the plan, and I
[26:13]
believe those are in place for
[26:15]
those fields scheduled to get
[26:17]
turf fields to go along with
[26:20]
that. Mark, is that correct?
[26:22]
>> Excuse me? No, the funding
[26:24]
for the scoreboard that's in
[26:28]
the current defp. Those are for
[26:31]
like the gym, the baseball
[26:33]
field we had, we there was a
[26:36]
specific item that that we
[26:39]
brought to the board to pay for
[26:42]
scoreboards for Deerfield High
[26:43]
School, South Broward High
[26:45]
School, and I believe it was it
[26:47]
was 2 or 3 high schools.
[26:48]
>> On page.
[26:50]
>> 129 yeah. But the overall,
[26:53]
the, the, the money that was
[26:54]
allocated that we mentioned for
[26:56]
school boards, those are for
[26:58]
like the baseball, the smaller
[27:01]
scoreboard replacement baseball,
[27:04]
softball, the gymnasium,
[27:06]
basketball, that's the
[27:10]
scoreboard that's allocated in
[27:15]
in the defp.
[27:17]
>> Board member discussion. DR.
[27:21]
Zeman.
[27:23]
>> How this is a half $1
[27:24]
million for how many total
[27:25]
schools.
[27:27]
>> Each school cost $500,000
[27:28]
for the video scoreboard.
[27:29]
>> I'm familiar with that. I
[27:31]
just need to know the number.
[27:32]
How many schools would this
[27:34]
motion cover? Because we need
[27:36]
to know a cost for this motion.
[27:38]
>> As far as I understand it,
[27:40]
it's 14 schools. Based on my
[27:43]
conversation with MR. Dorsett.
[27:45]
>> But the nine that already
[27:46]
have turf fields, not all of
[27:48]
them got the videos. Are there
[27:49]
seven left over there.
[27:50]
>> I believe.
[27:53]
>> Can you confirm MR. Dorsett
[27:55]
or Doctor Wanza the the nine
[27:58]
fields that received new turf
[28:00]
fields. How many did not
[28:02]
receive new video boards?
[28:05]
>> Right now the only two that
[28:08]
I know of. Well, three. That
[28:09]
was a repair. That was a
[28:10]
replacement for Blanche Ely.
[28:13]
That's going on now. But
[28:16]
Deerfield Beach did get a new
[28:18]
video board. I think it's being
[28:20]
installed now. South Broward is
[28:21]
getting a new video board. It's
[28:24]
being installed now. We wanted
[28:26]
to make sure that we know that
[28:28]
there was an issue with the
[28:30]
school board at Dillard High
[28:32]
School. We. When last year's
[28:35]
showcase, we had to use a. We
[28:38]
had to rent a temporary system
[28:40]
for that. We were able to get
[28:41]
that one up and running, but
[28:46]
it's one of the older analog
[28:48]
type boards. It's not the
[28:49]
digital scoreboard.
[28:51]
>> So we have. If I'm hearing
[28:53]
you right, seven schools that
[28:55]
don't have.
[28:56]
>> That's. That's correct.
[28:57]
>> MacArthur and Miramar are
[28:58]
already in the.
[28:59]
>> They're on.
[29:00]
>> Their page.
[29:02]
>> 150 okay. All right.
[29:03]
>> Some already in the works.
[29:04]
>> Okay. So y'all missing my
[29:06]
numbers up now. Yeah. So how
[29:09]
many out of the total number of
[29:10]
school passed that we've done
[29:12]
the fields in the future? How
[29:14]
many don't have scoreboards are
[29:15]
slated to have scoreboards.
[29:16]
What's that total number?
[29:17]
>> Video scoreboards.
[29:18]
>> Video scoreboards.
[29:20]
>> Video scoreboards. The only
[29:22]
one that has video scoreboards.
[29:25]
Now and again you have we're
[29:27]
made a request for MacArthur,
[29:29]
the new video school board.
[29:30]
They should be getting one. And
[29:32]
I think Cooper City should be
[29:36]
getting one in this this year's
[29:38]
budget. But the rest of them,
[29:41]
we wanted to put a video scored
[29:42]
at Dillard High School because
[29:44]
they didn't get one. We are
[29:46]
putting one at, like I said,
[29:48]
Dillard High, Deerfield Beach
[29:49]
and South Broward. Those are
[29:51]
the only ones that that's
[29:52]
already slated for for.
[29:55]
>> Video accounted for. So four
[29:57]
schools have a commitment from
[30:00]
d, f p for a video scope, a
[30:01]
video scoreboard to be
[30:03]
installed. Correct. So that
[30:08]
would leave five plus 14, 20
[30:09]
schools, correct?
[30:10]
>> Correct.
[30:12]
>> So 2020. Yeah. So the item
[30:15]
is to the motion is to be clear,
[30:17]
MISS Hixon 20 schools at half a
[30:19]
million to do video scoreboards.
[30:21]
>> So I'll fix that because
[30:22]
that wasn't the number I got
[30:24]
when I did this. So I'll fix it
[30:27]
based on that. So remaining 20
[30:29]
schools scheduled to receive
[30:30]
artificial turf.
[30:31]
>> Terrific. And what years
[30:33]
would those be laid into the
[30:34]
dfp budget?
[30:35]
>> Whenever they do the
[30:36]
artificial turf.
[30:39]
>> So we would have to carry it
[30:41]
out over the next three years
[30:44]
and also backtrack within the
[30:45]
next three years for the ones
[30:46]
that did not receive.
[30:49]
>> Terrific. I'm worried about
[30:52]
this, and I'm worried about it
[30:54]
because of the things that we
[30:56]
talked about this morning. You
[31:03]
know, there are. Critical. Adds
[31:06]
to a d, f p to a capital budget
[31:07]
that I could look my neighbor
[31:09]
in the eye and say, I need a
[31:11]
synthetic turf field. They last
[31:12]
longer. They're easier to play
[31:14]
off. It motivates people to do
[31:15]
athletics. It's so important
[31:16]
for them. Great athletics leads
[31:18]
to great academics. I get that
[31:19]
bleachers. I can talk to my
[31:20]
neighbors all day about
[31:25]
bleachers. I like having video
[31:27]
scoreboards. I mean, it's a
[31:29]
it's a nice to have. I worry
[31:30]
that we're going out for a
[31:32]
referendum on NOVEMBER 3rd, and
[31:33]
someone's going to find out.
[31:34]
We're spending their money on
[31:35]
video scoreboards at high
[31:37]
schools. And they said, if you
[31:38]
can do video scoreboard, you
[31:41]
don't need any more money. And
[31:42]
it's going to get too
[31:43]
complicated to explain the
[31:46]
capital versus operating budget
[31:48]
differences. But this doesn't
[31:51]
pass my test. If we do a few a
[31:52]
year, if we roll them out
[31:57]
slowly, I get that. But to, to,
[31:59]
to do this today and to do it
[32:03]
without staff kind of work on
[32:05]
this. I, I don't see how this
[32:06]
helps us get to our strategic
[32:09]
goals either, like a synthetic
[32:12]
turf field, bleachers, greater
[32:13]
athletics, greater engagement
[32:15]
with the students. I get that.
[32:17]
I think this is a nice to have,
[32:19]
but I don't think that this is
[32:20]
something that fits or competes
[32:23]
very well against some of the
[32:24]
other things that we could do
[32:28]
with capital dollars. So I just
[32:29]
think that right now this is
[32:31]
probably just a good idea and
[32:33]
not great timing. I like the
[32:35]
pace that we have right now
[32:37]
laying these things in.
[32:39]
>> Thank you. Additional board
[32:40]
member discussion on the
[32:42]
substitute motion to change the
[32:43]
number of schools and requisite
[32:45]
costs. MRS. Alhadeff.
[32:48]
>> Yes, so I think we should
[32:50]
stick with the the four schools,
[32:51]
the J.P. Taravella, West
[32:53]
Broward Monarch and Hollywood
[32:55]
Hills High School. I kind of
[32:58]
look at this as a complete
[32:59]
package. I know, MISS Hixon,
[33:00]
you're doing as individual
[33:02]
motions, but it's really you're
[33:04]
doing the artificial turf. You
[33:06]
need the bleachers, you need
[33:08]
the scoreboard, you need the
[33:10]
lighting. And what does that
[33:13]
whole entire package encompass
[33:16]
for these four schools? So I
[33:19]
would amend that motion to not
[33:21]
be the 20 schools, but these
[33:23]
four schools, because you're
[33:25]
already doing the turf field
[33:27]
and the bleachers. And then
[33:30]
obviously later in time you can
[33:34]
work on the other 16 schools
[33:37]
for the video scoreboards.
[33:40]
>> So are you making a
[33:42]
amendment to the substitute
[33:42]
motion?
[33:43]
>> Yes. My amendment to the
[33:46]
substitute motion is to have
[33:48]
this video scoreboards for J.P.
[33:49]
Taravella, West Broward Monarch
[33:51]
and Hollywood Hills High School.
[33:55]
>> Is there a second?
[33:56]
>> Second.
[33:58]
>> Seconded by. I'm sorry I
[34:00]
didn't catch you second. That
[34:02]
MISS Bulman public comment on
[34:05]
the amendment. MISS Hixon
[34:06]
motion.
[34:09]
>> So yeah, I will and I my
[34:11]
concerns with that is, I mean,
[34:13]
I want all of them to get it,
[34:16]
obviously. But those four
[34:19]
schools are not slated to be
[34:21]
next. They're not going to be
[34:23]
necessarily the four schools
[34:24]
that are going next year.
[34:26]
There's a there's a progression
[34:29]
there. And so you MAY not do
[34:30]
let's say, for example,
[34:33]
Hollywood Hills MAY be no
[34:35]
offense or anything. Fiscal
[34:37]
year 29. What about all of
[34:39]
those other schools that get
[34:42]
the turf field that don't get
[34:43]
the scoreboards? This motion is
[34:46]
saying, as you put in the turf
[34:47]
fields, those schools get the
[34:49]
scoreboards, as you just said,
[34:51]
as a total package. That's what
[34:53]
that motion is trying to do as
[34:55]
we move through and put turf
[34:56]
fields in all the schools, at
[34:58]
whatever pace that happens to
[35:00]
be, we're agreeing to put in
[35:02]
the video boards because, as
[35:04]
was mentioned, there are 4 or 5
[35:05]
schools that have them now.
[35:08]
Some schools have no scoreboard
[35:11]
at all. Why would we put in a
[35:13]
not state of the art scoreboard
[35:14]
if we know we're going to put a
[35:16]
scoreboard in later? Like that?
[35:18]
Was the purpose of this. There
[35:19]
are a lot of schools. The
[35:20]
scoreboard doesn't work. And
[35:22]
like MR. Dorsett said, they
[35:25]
bring in a temporary one. For
[35:26]
example, we're at Coconut Creek
[35:28]
on Friday and they had this
[35:31]
huge football showcase there,
[35:33]
and they had to borrow a
[35:34]
scoreboard because their
[35:35]
scoreboard doesn't work, and
[35:37]
they just got a brand new turf
[35:38]
field. To me. If you're going
[35:40]
to put in that money to do a
[35:42]
turf field, why would you do it?
[35:44]
I don't want right. I don't
[35:45]
want to say it in a way that's
[35:48]
coming to my mind. But you
[35:50]
halfway. Thank you. You know,
[35:53]
you want the whole package and
[35:54]
and it, you know, then people
[35:56]
will come and rent the field
[35:58]
and you'll get more out of it.
[35:59]
So that's, that's why they're
[36:01]
separate like this. They're
[36:03]
it's not just for those four.
[36:05]
And those 4th MAY not happen
[36:08]
for 4 or 5 years down the line.
[36:09]
So I think it makes more sense
[36:11]
to make a motion that you put
[36:13]
the scoreboards in as you put
[36:14]
the turf. I appreciate what
[36:15]
you're saying, but I think
[36:16]
we're saying the same thing
[36:22]
just in a different way.
[36:26]
>> So how many how many schools
[36:29]
have we already approved that
[36:31]
have this mish mash of? Yes,
[36:33]
they have a turf field, but no,
[36:34]
they don't have video
[36:35]
scoreboard lights or no, they
[36:37]
don't have lighting.
[36:39]
>> Yeah.
[36:40]
>> So I don't think we and
[36:42]
correct me if I'm wrong staff,
[36:43]
I don't think we've approved
[36:45]
any turf fields for any fields
[36:47]
that don't have lighting. Maybe
[36:48]
Hollywood Hills is the only one.
[36:50]
If there is on the list, go
[36:51]
ahead DR. Holness I'll let you
[36:53]
give the details.
[36:54]
>> So thank you, Doctor Hepburn.
[36:56]
So that is correct. The the,
[36:58]
the fields that are slated to
[37:02]
be replaced with the turf field
[37:04]
product that we put at the
[37:06]
current was that nine schools.
[37:07]
These are already existing high
[37:10]
schools with complete stadiums.
[37:11]
And when I say complete
[37:13]
stadiums, I mean they have a
[37:14]
concession stand, they have a
[37:16]
press box, they have restrooms,
[37:19]
they have the full outfit of a
[37:21]
high school stadium. Wt we
[37:25]
did in this past year was as we
[37:26]
worked on the schools that have
[37:28]
the complete stadium package,
[37:31]
we also work to mitigate issues
[37:32]
at Hallandale High School
[37:34]
because we know that they have
[37:35]
drainage issues when it comes
[37:37]
to installing a turf field
[37:39]
there, as well as work to look
[37:42]
at what are the concerns at
[37:43]
Hollywood Hills High School?
[37:44]
Because we know that lighting
[37:46]
has been the concern there,
[37:48]
because the city does not want
[37:50]
the football lights, they just
[37:51]
don't want the lighting. And
[37:53]
that's why they play their
[37:57]
games at 4:00. So the the
[37:58]
schools that are on the
[38:00]
schedule over the five years
[38:02]
that the board initially
[38:04]
outlined, our schools that have
[38:07]
current functioning, complete
[38:10]
stadiums right now.
[38:14]
>> So then the 20 schools, are
[38:18]
they on this list?
[38:20]
>> So all of the schools are on
[38:22]
the list, with the exception of
[38:25]
West Broward, Taravella monarch.
[38:27]
And we we have not put
[38:30]
Hollywood Hills on yet because
[38:32]
we have to work with the city
[38:33]
on, you know, the residents if
[38:35]
they're going to allow for the
[38:36]
lighting and all of that. But I
[38:38]
can tell you, West Broward,
[38:39]
Monarch and Taravella are not
[38:44]
on the list. They are not.
[38:48]
>> Okay. So in. Right there on
[38:51]
the list now.
[38:53]
>> You all just passed a motion
[38:54]
to put them on the list. So now
[38:56]
they're on the list. But but
[38:57]
prior to this meeting, they
[38:59]
were not on the list. But you
[39:01]
just took motion through a vote
[39:03]
to add those four schools.
[39:06]
>> Okay. So but so you're
[39:07]
saying the nine schools you
[39:09]
have have the complete package
[39:10]
already.
[39:12]
>> As well as the ones that are
[39:14]
slated for this year and the
[39:15]
following year? Yes. So when
[39:17]
they do so you're and I mean,
[39:18]
we can name the schools, but
[39:20]
these are the high schools that
[39:21]
already have complete football
[39:21]
stadiums.
[39:23]
>> Okay. So but now, so you're
[39:26]
saying there's still 20 schools
[39:27]
that do not have the complete
[39:27]
package?
[39:29]
>> No, no. There are those are
[39:31]
the 20 schools. I believe that
[39:32]
we're saying that we are
[39:34]
working to add the turf fields
[39:37]
to. But they have functioning
[39:39]
grass fields right now.
[39:41]
>> And they don't have video
[39:41]
boards.
[39:42]
>> They don't have video.
[39:44]
>> Boards, traditional
[39:45]
scoreboards, right.
[39:46]
>> With the with the light, the
[39:47]
analog or the light bulbs or
[39:48]
whatever, those words that.
[39:50]
>> Are used to seeing when we,
[39:52]
you know, grew up as kids.
[39:53]
>> So in my mind, what I'm
[39:55]
thinking is that if we do a
[39:58]
turf field at a school, then it
[40:00]
should come with the video
[40:02]
scoreboard and, and the
[40:04]
lighting and the bleachers.
[40:06]
That should be our standard.
[40:08]
>> So the bleachers are already
[40:10]
at these schools. I think the
[40:12]
the motion that is being made
[40:13]
or that is being considered
[40:16]
right now is we are replacing
[40:18]
the field. And with the field
[40:21]
should come the new scoreboard.
[40:22]
Because these schools already
[40:24]
have bleachers, they have
[40:25]
lighting, they have concession
[40:27]
stands, they are complete high
[40:28]
school stadiums.
[40:31]
>> And are these 20 schools for
[40:33]
the artificial turf in this
[40:36]
plan? Now.
[40:37]
>> By by virtue of the vote
[40:39]
that you just took, then the
[40:41]
remaining four that were not in
[40:43]
are in.
[40:47]
>> Okay. So then I go back to.
[40:54]
Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah.
[40:55]
>> And the four okay. So don't
[40:57]
have light are the only schools
[40:58]
that don't have lights, right?
[41:00]
>> So what I would say is this
[41:04]
based on the plan of, with the
[41:06]
years that whoever is up to get
[41:08]
their turf field, that they
[41:09]
would get the complete package
[41:12]
of the video scoreboard and the
[41:13]
bleachers and lights if
[41:14]
whatever they need, but they
[41:15]
don't have that should be
[41:18]
should be the standard.
[41:19]
>> That's kind of what this
[41:21]
motion does.
[41:26]
>> y'all saying the same thing.
[41:28]
>> Yeah, yeah, I know. So Miss
[41:29]
Bulman has a question. MISS
[41:32]
Thompson has a question.
[41:34]
>> So I have a question about
[41:37]
if to clarify because not 100%
[41:39]
clear if we're putting all this
[41:40]
together, every single high
[41:41]
school in Broward County public
[41:45]
schools will have a turf field,
[41:46]
and then eventually they would
[41:48]
get the scoreboard and they MAY
[41:49]
not have.
[41:50]
>> So they will have a turf
[41:53]
field. They will have bleachers
[41:54]
and a scoreboard.
[41:55]
>> Most of them.
[41:56]
>> Have video or video
[41:58]
scoreboards. Some will not have
[41:59]
lights.
[42:00]
>> And some will not have
[42:02]
lights. But we can work on that.
[42:03]
Correct. It's not really as
[42:04]
expensive as I thought. If
[42:05]
we're spending this much money
[42:07]
on a turf field and a correct
[42:08]
and a scoreboard, it's like
[42:10]
lights seem to be a important.
[42:12]
I have a specific question
[42:13]
about one of my high schools,
[42:16]
Hallandale High, because my
[42:17]
understanding is that they have
[42:20]
field conditions that makes it
[42:21]
difficult for them to get a
[42:23]
turf fields or are they on the
[42:24]
list or are they.
[42:26]
>> So what we did last year was
[42:29]
we started working on looking
[42:31]
at how do we mitigate the
[42:34]
conditions that would allow for
[42:36]
them to have a field, as we
[42:39]
know, the land that the school
[42:42]
is built on is what makes it a
[42:44]
challenge, right? To. And so
[42:45]
MR. Dorsett can talk about the
[42:47]
work that they're doing there.
[42:49]
But I just want to Doctor
[42:50]
Hepburn, if it's okay. I just
[42:52]
want to be perfectly clear on
[42:53]
the record when the question is,
[42:55]
will every high school now have
[42:58]
a stadium or turf fields and
[43:00]
bleachers when this is done,
[43:02]
the answer is no, because we
[43:04]
know that Fort Lauderdale High
[43:06]
School and Stranahan High
[43:09]
School. We. I don't even think
[43:10]
Fort Lauderdale High School
[43:12]
even has the land to even
[43:13]
entertain dng this on t their
[43:15]
campus if theheyanted to,
[43:17]
coupled wit theame ccecern
[43:19]
MAY be attrananahan. Sohahat is
[43:25]
why the board has. Every year
[43:27]
approved. And the agreement for
[43:29]
those two schools to play their
[43:31]
home games at the community
[43:34]
field. I'm going to say the old
[43:34]
Lockhart because I'm just old.
[43:36]
It's going to always be
[43:38]
Lockhart Stadium to me, but but
[43:39]
I just wanted to be have it
[43:41]
very clear on the record that
[43:43]
when we say, well, every high
[43:44]
school, the answer is no. Every
[43:46]
high school that has the
[43:49]
facility and the ability to do
[43:50]
it, then that that answer would
[43:53]
be yes. And, and we do have it
[43:55]
noted in our working documents
[43:58]
around Hallandale and Hollywood
[43:59]
Hills.
[44:02]
>> For the field conditions for
[44:04]
both of them.
[44:06]
>> Hallandale is for the field
[44:07]
conditions and Hollywood Hills
[44:09]
is for the lighting, because
[44:12]
the community has objected to
[44:14]
the lighting, but that, again,
[44:15]
they can play the games at 4:00.
[44:17]
If we do the field and make
[44:18]
sure they have the adequate
[44:20]
bleachers and things of that
[44:22]
nature.
[44:23]
>> So would there be an
[44:25]
opportunity to go back to the
[44:25]
community?
[44:27]
>> And yes, that's the hope.
[44:28]
>> Absolutely. That's what we
[44:29]
need to do.
[44:30]
>> No, that's the hope.
[44:31]
>> So I mean, when we're
[44:33]
looking at this is a ton of
[44:34]
money regardless of how we're
[44:37]
doing it. So if we is there a
[44:38]
feasibility for us to add
[44:41]
lights to these four schools?
[44:43]
>> This city allows us to do
[44:43]
that.
[44:45]
>> So if the city allows for
[44:47]
then the board would have to
[44:49]
either obviously, as you're
[44:52]
doing now, appropriate funds
[44:53]
somewhere in the in the
[44:55]
appropriate out years or, you
[44:57]
know, we can have to see if the
[44:59]
city of Hollywood is interested
[45:01]
in doing some kind of
[45:02]
commitment, like the letter
[45:04]
from the City of Coral Springs
[45:05]
says.
[45:08]
>> Right.
[45:08]
>> Now.
[45:10]
>> I just want to make sure
[45:11]
that it's clear, though, that
[45:13]
the city of Coral Springs has
[45:16]
some contingencies with that
[45:17]
donation of lights. So in order
[45:19]
to get that, we need related
[45:21]
improvements with regards to
[45:23]
the synthetic turf track
[45:25]
resurfacing, bleacher upgrades,
[45:28]
pressbox enhancement, and
[45:34]
perimeter fencing.
[45:35]
>> You know, they don't.
[45:37]
>> Are you done, MISS Bowman?
[45:39]
>> I guess for now. Yeah. But
[45:41]
the if we wanted to amend this,
[45:44]
we could just put this into the
[45:46]
plan now, or we can put it we
[45:48]
can amend it later after we go
[45:49]
back to the city.
[45:50]
>> Yep.
[45:52]
>> Okay. I just know that at
[45:53]
Hollywood Hills, they're
[45:54]
missing out on a lot of
[45:55]
opportunities. And quite
[45:58]
frankly, playing football in
[46:00]
the summer at 4:00 in the
[46:03]
afternoon is not ideal. It's
[46:05]
not ideal to play at at 8:00
[46:06]
here in the in the evening. And
[46:09]
it's definitely not at 4:00. So
[46:12]
I would like to look into
[46:13]
getting consent from the
[46:14]
neighbors, especially if we
[46:15]
could, you know, they could
[46:17]
have some kind of use or
[46:19]
something. Maybe we could deal
[46:20]
there.
[46:21]
>> MISS Thompson.
[46:24]
>> I just share MISS Bowman's
[46:25]
concerns. I also just think if
[46:28]
we're going. I mean, that's $10
[46:30]
million just on scoreboards. I
[46:33]
think there needs to be some
[46:35]
prioritization here. I also
[46:36]
feel like if we're going to be
[46:40]
investing $8 million on the
[46:42]
turf fields and then $2 million
[46:44]
on bleachers, then we should
[46:47]
include lights on it, because
[46:49]
that's still cheaper than the
[46:53]
$10 million for scoreboards.
[46:54]
>> Hixon.
[46:56]
>> Thank you, and I appreciate
[46:57]
that. I don't think it's an
[47:01]
either or. For example,
[47:02]
Taravella the City of Coral
[47:05]
Springs has agreed. And I think
[47:06]
that that was a conversation
[47:08]
they were having in the
[47:10]
workshop. The conversations
[47:12]
that we that I've had is that
[47:16]
if they see we are committed to
[47:17]
making some of those
[47:19]
improvements they asked for,
[47:20]
they're going to come through
[47:23]
with the the cost of the lights.
[47:24]
And then using that, maybe we
[47:26]
could go to the city of Coconut
[47:28]
Creek and say, Coral Springs
[47:29]
did this. What can you do to
[47:31]
partner with us? Like I said, I
[47:33]
know West Broward has a partner
[47:35]
right now who again said, if
[47:38]
you show commitment
[47:39]
>> To doing something with the
[47:41]
field. We are willing to have a
[47:43]
discussion about the lights, so
[47:45]
I think there's a good
[47:47]
possibility here to work with
[47:49]
partners to cover the cost of
[47:51]
the lights. And again, there
[47:53]
are many scoreboards maybe
[47:55]
there, but they're not working
[47:57]
or there's lights missing. And
[47:59]
if we're going to have video
[48:00]
scoreboards at some schools, it
[48:03]
should be consistent across all
[48:05]
of them. Does it have to happen
[48:07]
all next year? It does not. You
[48:10]
know, we can, as DR. Zeman said,
[48:12]
maybe spread it out a lot along
[48:14]
the way more. But I again, I
[48:16]
don't want to do things half
[48:18]
way. And it feels like if you
[48:19]
do the turf and you don't do
[48:20]
the video scoreboards, you're
[48:22]
not providing that state of the
[48:25]
art facility that the turf
[48:28]
fields indicate that you have.
[48:34]
>> DR. Zeman.
[48:37]
>> I'm, I'm just going to ask a
[48:41]
few questions, Doctor Hepburn.
[48:42]
You're the superintendent of
[48:43]
public schools in Broward
[48:45]
County. Your responsibility is
[48:47]
to come give us guidance about
[48:50]
priorities. Is this amount of
[48:53]
money, which is now over $20
[48:55]
million to support athletic
[48:57]
fields, the highest priority
[48:59]
for spending $20 million of our
[49:00]
capital resources in Broward
[49:01]
County?
[49:02]
>> I would say there's
[49:05]
definitely some competing
[49:08]
interests. If we spread this
[49:10]
out over multiple years. And
[49:12]
I'm not thinking three years
[49:13]
because it's three, my
[49:14]
calculation is about 10 million
[49:15]
per year right now. If we
[49:17]
spread it out, probably over
[49:20]
the next 4 to 5 years,
[49:21]
something feasible that we can
[49:22]
get done.
[49:24]
>> Terrific. I, I also have to
[49:26]
weigh in on priorities. That's
[49:29]
my job. And I don't feel like
[49:31]
this is the highest priority. I
[49:33]
go around schools and we have
[49:34]
cafeterias with seven sections
[49:36]
of people going to eat because
[49:37]
the cafeterias are too small.
[49:38]
We have media centers that
[49:40]
don't have full stacks of books
[49:42]
and resources for the kids.
[49:44]
Those are things we can spend
[49:46]
capital dollars on. I, I don't
[49:48]
understand this process either,
[49:50]
like we've been baking this dfp
[49:53]
for a year and the
[49:54]
superintendent did not come and
[49:55]
ask for athletic field
[49:56]
enhancements. He didn't ask for
[49:57]
video scoreboards. This is not
[49:59]
Florida State University's Doak
[50:01]
Campbell Stadium or the Swamp
[50:02]
at Florida. This is a high
[50:05]
school. They play ten games a
[50:07]
year in high school. Am I
[50:08]
correct?
[50:08]
>> Correct.
[50:10]
>> So, so ten times. And each
[50:11]
school plays each other. So
[50:13]
there's 15 games a week times
[50:14]
ten. That's 150 games. We're
[50:17]
going to pay $20 million. So we
[50:19]
can have videos of our high
[50:21]
school football players being
[50:23]
replayed like they do in major
[50:26]
college sports, at a time when
[50:27]
we're asking the community to
[50:29]
continue to give us that one
[50:31]
mil so that we can pay to keep
[50:33]
our lights on. Like, I just
[50:35]
don't see this, I don't
[50:38]
understand, I don't understand
[50:39]
the priorities that we're
[50:40]
communicating to, to our
[50:41]
community. If we're going to
[50:42]
give video scoreboards to high
[50:44]
school athletes, when we have
[50:46]
cafeterias and libraries and
[50:48]
classrooms and windows. I was
[50:49]
in an elementary school last
[50:53]
week with plastic windows.
[50:58]
Built in 1952. Like we're
[50:59]
supposed to prioritize these
[51:00]
things and make good decisions
[51:01]
for the community and earn
[51:03]
their trust so that they give
[51:04]
us their taxpayer dollars and
[51:05]
sometimes discretionary
[51:07]
taxpayer dollars. I don't I
[51:09]
just don't see this. I don't
[51:11]
know, I, I cannot tell my
[51:12]
neighbors that I'm going to
[51:14]
spend $20 million on video
[51:15]
scoreboards for 16, 17 and 18
[51:16]
year old athletes so their
[51:18]
parents can see the replay of a
[51:21]
game. I suspect they all have
[51:22]
phones and they can watch the
[51:26]
replay if they need to.
[51:28]
>> So DR. Zeman has the floor,
[51:29]
and then I have.
[51:30]
>> I go to these games. I know
[51:32]
what a video scoreboard is. I
[51:34]
mean, we're going to actually I
[51:36]
don't even know if we can do
[51:37]
replays. We can just see stuff
[51:39]
like as it happens up on the
[51:40]
scoreboard, that's an
[51:41]
extravagant expense in my mind
[51:43]
for a high school athlete. If
[51:45]
it was a weight room, if it was
[51:47]
a new basketball court, if it
[51:49]
was, you know, a baseball field,
[51:51]
if it was safe fencing, if it
[51:52]
was dugouts. Those things are
[51:54]
fundamental to an athletic
[51:55]
program. And I go around
[51:56]
Broward County and I see
[51:57]
deficiencies all over the place
[52:00]
in athletic fields, not video
[52:01]
scoreboards as a deficiency. I
[52:03]
don't do that. I view that as,
[52:05]
you know, if we did a couple of
[52:07]
years and it took us 15 years
[52:09]
to get there, I'd be fine. But
[52:10]
accelerating these funds, I
[52:11]
think, is going to put
[52:12]
something at risk that we
[52:14]
really cannot afford to put at
[52:16]
risk. And, and this
[52:18]
prioritization at one meeting
[52:20]
at the end of the year doesn't
[52:21]
look to the community like this
[52:23]
is thoughtful, analyzed,
[52:24]
intentional. We know what the
[52:25]
options. We don't even know
[52:27]
what the numbers of fields that
[52:28]
we want for some of these
[52:30]
things, or the years in which
[52:32]
we're going to lay it in. So I
[52:33]
just, I don't I don't think
[52:35]
that this is a good idea today.
[52:37]
It MAY be great to bring back
[52:39]
later and lay it in over ten
[52:41]
years, but I just cannot
[52:42]
justify this to the community
[52:44]
that this is our highest and
[52:46]
best use of their money. When
[52:47]
we don't have capital
[52:48]
facilities that we can be proud
[52:50]
of. In every school in Broward
[52:53]
County. So I'm sorry to come
[52:55]
unglued about this, but I just
[52:57]
don't I can't let us do this
[52:58]
without thinking about the
[52:59]
effect that it would have on
[53:01]
the referendum. I also think
[53:02]
there are a lot of boosters
[53:04]
that can go out and raise money.
[53:06]
Can they raise a half $1
[53:07]
million? No, but that doesn't
[53:08]
mean we should take taxpayer
[53:10]
dollars and pay for something
[53:12]
that I view as just an
[53:13]
extravagant thing. And if we
[53:15]
got a couple of years, it's
[53:17]
fine. But to do this all
[53:18]
quickly over three years is
[53:20]
just really, I think it's a
[53:22]
very high risk.
[53:25]
>> Thank you. And I had a
[53:28]
question to DR. Zeman point
[53:32]
about like priorities. And I'm
[53:36]
wondering, like will be closing
[53:37]
schools this year and some of
[53:39]
the receiving schools MAY need
[53:42]
to have some adjustments made.
[53:43]
So what would be the process?
[53:45]
Like if we, you know, we passed
[53:47]
the d e, f p today, we make the
[53:48]
vote to close schools in
[53:51]
DECEMBER. Ostensibly, we'll
[53:52]
know some of the changes that
[53:54]
will be needed to be made to
[53:57]
the receiving schools. What
[53:58]
does that process look like
[54:00]
with as it relates to the d e,
[54:01]
f p.
[54:04]
>> We will come back and ask
[54:06]
for specific funding for
[54:09]
specific projects and acts to
[54:10]
amend a, d, f, p to make sure
[54:12]
we can get those in there.
[54:14]
>> Okay. Yep.
[54:15]
>> MISS Bulman and then MISS
[54:18]
Hixon.
[54:19]
>> Thanks.
[54:21]
>> Kind of in the same vein. So
[54:23]
when we're looking at the big
[54:25]
picture, you know, we were
[54:28]
talking about this morning how
[54:29]
there's just things that we can
[54:31]
do that we're in, the budget
[54:32]
that we're proposed for next
[54:36]
year to make our facilities
[54:41]
look better. So our by making
[54:42]
changes today, are we
[54:46]
jeopardizing our ability to do
[54:48]
that? Because I don't want to
[54:49]
change the priorities. I think
[54:51]
that it's really important that
[54:54]
we're doing these, you know,
[54:55]
facilities improvements that
[54:56]
make the facilities more
[54:59]
inviting and more, you know,
[55:00]
like how we had talked about
[55:02]
painting and marquees and all
[55:05]
the things that can boost the
[55:09]
curb appeal and pretty easily
[55:10]
identifiable.
[55:13]
>> So it's all about funding.
[55:14]
And how much are we dipping
[55:16]
into the reserves? As MR. Shim
[55:18]
said, I think the goal was to
[55:19]
keep it at $50 million. Don't
[55:22]
go below $50 million as far as
[55:24]
similar to general fund fund
[55:26]
balance. So, MR. CHAIRMAN, if
[55:30]
you can kind of enlighten us
[55:33]
about the reserve, again, I
[55:34]
think most of the projects that
[55:36]
MISS Bulman just discussed as
[55:38]
far as painting and things like
[55:39]
that, are already funded in a d,
[55:41]
f, p and scheduled out. But as
[55:44]
far as some of the requests,
[55:45]
what impact that would have on
[55:49]
the on the reserves over the
[55:50]
next three years of this
[55:53]
specific defp my calculations
[55:55]
I'm up to, if you include the
[55:57]
video scoreboards, total of
[55:59]
field bleachers, lights, video
[56:01]
boards, I have about $28
[56:02]
million unless I'm off, but
[56:07]
that's what I have. How much do
[56:11]
you have, MISS Hixon? I have 8
[56:14]
million for fields, 2 million
[56:16]
for bleachers. Oh, I included
[56:18]
lights. I had 8 million for
[56:20]
lights. So take out the lights.
[56:27]
That would be two. 1.2. I had 2
[56:28]
million per school for lights,
[56:35]
so. It's about four. Call it
[56:40]
four and a half. So about 25.
[56:45]
Million. 25 million total.
[56:47]
>> That would come out of our
[56:48]
$50 million reserve. Oh well,
[56:51]
that's not gonna.
[56:52]
>> $71 million, but we're
[56:53]
supposed to be 5050.
[56:55]
>> In there. So we would be
[56:56]
taking draining our reserve,
[56:59]
but we're what we're tapping.
[57:01]
The curb. Appeal projects are
[57:03]
already budgeted for.
[57:05]
>> And it's over the next three
[57:06]
years. And if you can also
[57:09]
enlighten the the board also,
[57:11]
MR. Shim, about how our capital
[57:12]
budget is actually funded. Like
[57:15]
how much average funding do we
[57:18]
receive on an annual basis so
[57:20]
that we get a better picture of
[57:22]
the impact to the reserve on an
[57:23]
annual basis? If we were to
[57:25]
spread this out over three
[57:30]
years, which would be. About
[57:31]
eight, a little bit over 8
[57:34]
million per year.
[57:36]
>> Yes, annually we receive
[57:38]
about $500 million, and it goes
[57:41]
up as year by year on capital
[57:45]
millage. And we try to set
[57:49]
aside funding for reserves just
[57:51]
for stability. As you know, you
[57:52]
get change orders throughout
[57:54]
the year and other financial
[57:56]
impacts or unexpected things
[57:59]
that hit our capital project
[58:03]
reserves. And a lot of the
[58:05]
projects for the beautification,
[58:08]
as we mentioned in the
[58:10]
presentation, we accelerated a
[58:12]
good bit amount to focus on
[58:13]
that based upon the board's
[58:16]
feedback in workshops and the
[58:20]
tentative meeting.
[58:20]
>> Thank you.
[58:22]
>> Thank you, MISS Hixon.
[58:24]
>> Thank you. I just wanted to
[58:25]
point out on the fields that
[58:27]
it's not just football. There's
[58:29]
also soccer. There's flag
[58:30]
football, and there is lacrosse.
[58:32]
So it's not just being used
[58:35]
during the football season. So
[58:37]
and there is equity in male and
[58:39]
female sports happening there.
[58:41]
So I just wanted to point that
[58:44]
out. And I'd also say I
[58:46]
perfectly okay if this gets
[58:47]
adjusted in terms of because it
[58:49]
didn't say on here that it had
[58:51]
to be done in three years, it
[58:52]
was just saying that we would
[58:54]
commit to the video scoreboards
[58:57]
if it's the board's will to
[58:58]
spread that over a longer
[59:01]
period of time. This motion
[59:04]
doesn't tie it to any specific
[59:06]
fiscal year. So I don't have a
[59:08]
problem with that. I just have
[59:09]
a concern that some schools
[59:12]
have it and some don't, and
[59:13]
that seems inequitable to me.
[59:15]
So thank you.
[59:19]
>> Thank you, MISS Rupert.
[59:21]
>> Thank you, MADAM Chair.
[59:23]
Thank you, MISS Hixon, for your
[59:24]
for your motions. And actually,
[59:26]
I wanted to speak a little bit
[59:29]
on title nine and to ask the
[59:31]
superintendent. Every year we
[59:33]
get the title nine. I don't
[59:35]
know about, for a better word
[59:39]
for saying that it. It tells us
[59:41]
the equity from school to
[59:44]
school, female, male. And if
[59:45]
they have the same facilities,
[59:47]
if they have the same
[59:49]
opportunities, etc. Are any of
[59:53]
the schools listed in those
[59:57]
title nine of violations that
[59:59]
that we would have to, to work
[1:00:02]
on with this money?
[1:00:04]
>> Not not that I'm aware of,
[1:00:06]
MISS Rupert, most of the sports
[1:00:08]
are played on the same field
[1:00:10]
basketball for on the
[1:00:13]
basketball court or on the
[1:00:14]
football field. The only the
[1:00:15]
only two sports that are
[1:00:16]
different are softball and
[1:00:19]
baseball, that play on
[1:00:21]
different play surfaces.
[1:00:23]
>> Right. And you're saying
[1:00:24]
that that's pretty much all the
[1:00:26]
infractions that we get. I know
[1:00:28]
some of it has to do with
[1:00:30]
female bathrooms, outfits, etc.
[1:00:32]
But there were none that would
[1:00:35]
be that would follow this this
[1:00:37]
motion.
[1:00:40]
>> Correct. Not for athletics.
[1:00:43]
>> Okay. Thank you.
[1:00:45]
>> And then I, I had one more
[1:00:49]
question. Since the City of
[1:00:52]
Coral Springs was brought up
[1:00:54]
about some commitments, I'm
[1:00:59]
wondering if we've contemplated
[1:01:03]
if amendment three passes and
[1:01:05]
the city is being able to
[1:01:09]
invest. Those kinds of things
[1:01:13]
in our schools. I know at the
[1:01:15]
City Manager Roundtable, we
[1:01:17]
heard concerns from cities
[1:01:19]
about funding if amendment
[1:01:21]
three passes. So I'm wondering
[1:01:23]
if we've if we've looked at
[1:01:26]
that at all.
[1:01:28]
>> So not for this since it's a
[1:01:31]
motion on the floor, but for
[1:01:32]
other conversations that we've
[1:01:34]
had with cities about certain
[1:01:36]
levels of support or certain
[1:01:37]
partnerships they want to
[1:01:38]
extend, a lot of them are
[1:01:40]
talking about waiting until
[1:01:41]
after that NOVEMBER vote, just
[1:01:42]
to make sure they actually have
[1:01:44]
the funds to continue certain
[1:01:45]
partnerships.
[1:01:45]
>> Right.
[1:01:47]
>> Okay. Any other board
[1:01:50]
discussion? MRS. Alhadeff.
[1:01:52]
>> I have a question. If if a
[1:01:54]
school doesn't have a video
[1:01:56]
scoreboard, what do they use?
[1:01:57]
>> They use a traditional
[1:01:58]
scoreboard, just like we're
[1:02:00]
used to seeing at, you know,
[1:02:03]
any football game or any
[1:02:04]
municipal field. It's a
[1:02:05]
traditional scoreboard.
[1:02:07]
>> And what is the cost of a
[1:02:07]
traditional scoreboard?
[1:02:09]
>> I'm not sure, because most
[1:02:11]
of those schools have had them
[1:02:12]
up for quite some time. And I
[1:02:13]
think we've been spending money
[1:02:15]
on repairing them over time
[1:02:16]
just to keep them up and
[1:02:17]
running. But most of those
[1:02:18]
scoreboards have probably been
[1:02:20]
installed for over a couple of
[1:02:22]
decades now. You know, MR.
[1:02:24]
Dorsett, do you know the price
[1:02:25]
of a traditional scoreboard?
[1:02:27]
Just the traditional.
[1:02:29]
>> Did did the replace one of
[1:02:31]
those traditional scoreboards?
[1:02:32]
The that that was that's what
[1:02:35]
that money was allocated for to
[1:02:36]
replace some of the to make
[1:02:38]
some repairs. But they're
[1:02:40]
beyond economical repair. I
[1:02:42]
would have to get back to with
[1:02:46]
you on a total cost for a new
[1:02:48]
traditional scoreboard
[1:02:49]
replacement. I don't have that
[1:02:52]
number with me right now.
[1:02:54]
>> Thank you.
[1:02:55]
>> Anyone else.
[1:02:58]
>> Have one more question? Do
[1:02:59]
any of our schools, they don't
[1:03:02]
have a playground or our
[1:03:04]
playgrounds are all in here
[1:03:05]
because I know the playgrounds
[1:03:07]
are 250 000.
[1:03:08]
>> Correct. There is a
[1:03:09]
playgrounds are in here and
[1:03:10]
there's a project list for
[1:03:12]
playgrounds. As far as
[1:03:13]
installation and repair.
[1:03:14]
>> Are there any of our
[1:03:16]
elementary schools are not on
[1:03:17]
the list here that they don't
[1:03:18]
have a playground.
[1:03:20]
>> So there was an assessment
[1:03:21]
done for the majority of
[1:03:23]
playgrounds. I think all of the
[1:03:25]
ones that need a new or new one
[1:03:28]
or, or replacements of parts
[1:03:32]
are in the d, f p okay.
[1:03:33]
>> Anyone else on. So I think
[1:03:36]
we're voting on the amendment
[1:03:39]
to the substitute motion, the
[1:03:40]
second substitute motion,
[1:03:42]
because I think there were.
[1:03:43]
>> MRS. Alhadeff motion, which
[1:03:46]
is to substitute the 20 schools
[1:03:48]
with the four schools J.P.
[1:03:49]
Taravella, West Broward,
[1:03:50]
Monarch and Hollywood,
[1:03:52]
Hollywood Hills High.
[1:03:54]
>> All in favor of MRS.
[1:03:55]
Alhadeff amendment? Say aye.
[1:03:56]
>> Aye.
[1:03:58]
>> Allll oppppos? A All oosed?
[1:04:01]
Say n n No. W We do a rollall.L.
[1:04:05]
>>>> Roll call on the motion.
[1:04:06]
>> Substitute motion.
[1:04:06]
>> Amendment.
[1:04:08]
>> Alhadeff.
[1:04:09]
>> Yes.
[1:04:11]
>> Bulman.
[1:04:14]
>> Can I get a clarification?
[1:04:17]
>> So originally the motion was
[1:04:19]
to move. I move to include
[1:04:21]
video scoreboards at all
[1:04:23]
schools and it was for 14
[1:04:24]
schools. Then there was a
[1:04:25]
substitute motion that changed
[1:04:27]
the 14 schools to the 20
[1:04:28]
schools. Then there was an
[1:04:30]
amendment to that substitute
[1:04:32]
motion to remove the 20 schools
[1:04:34]
and make it those four schools.
[1:04:35]
So what you are voting on now
[1:04:37]
is the amendment to the
[1:04:39]
substitute motion, or did we
[1:04:41]
already did that failed. So now
[1:04:42]
we're only voting on.
[1:04:43]
>> We haven't voted on the
[1:04:44]
amendment.
[1:04:45]
>> On the amendment. Okay.
[1:04:47]
>> So I'm going to I'm going to
[1:04:48]
vote no on this and then see
[1:04:49]
how it goes.
[1:04:51]
>> Okay. Just to start over.
[1:04:52]
Alhadeff.
[1:04:52]
>> Yes.
[1:04:53]
>> Bulman.
[1:04:54]
>> No.
[1:04:57]
>> Cervera. Not on the line.
[1:05:00]
Hixon. No wholeness, no.
[1:05:01]
Leonardi.
[1:05:02]
>> No.
[1:05:03]
>> Rupert.
[1:05:04]
>> Yes.
[1:05:06]
>> Thompson no.
[1:05:11]
>> That was a no no and no
[1:05:14]
motion fails. 1234562.
[1:05:16]
>> All right, so now we're on
[1:05:17]
the substitute motion.
[1:05:18]
>> MADAM Chair.
[1:05:20]
>> DR. Holness thank you, MADAM
[1:05:21]
Chair. Could you repeat the
[1:05:23]
substitute motion.
[1:05:25]
>> So it was to change? And
[1:05:26]
correct me if I'm wrong,
[1:05:30]
general Council, the 14 to
[1:05:31]
school is to 20. Correct.
[1:05:33]
>> So let me restate the motion.
[1:05:35]
I move to include video
[1:05:36]
scoreboards at all schools
[1:05:38]
receiving artificial turf
[1:05:40]
fields, including the remaining
[1:05:42]
20 schools scheduled to receive
[1:05:44]
artificial turf fields at the
[1:05:46]
additional cost for the 20
[1:05:47]
schools, with installation
[1:05:48]
occurring concurrently with the
[1:05:50]
turf project and to provide
[1:05:52]
video scoreboard as needed. At
[1:05:54]
schools where artificial turf
[1:05:55]
fields have already been
[1:05:56]
installed.
[1:05:57]
>> Okay, so I have a few
[1:06:02]
questions. Doctor Hepburn, from
[1:06:04]
this motion, do you understand
[1:06:06]
this? To have a time limit of
[1:06:08]
three years, or what is your
[1:06:11]
understanding in terms of
[1:06:13]
completion time?
[1:06:15]
>> So my understanding, because
[1:06:17]
the current projects for fields
[1:06:20]
are for the next three years,
[1:06:22]
out of the total five, which we
[1:06:23]
started the year before in this
[1:06:26]
current in last year is three
[1:06:28]
years. So unless the board
[1:06:30]
gives a specific timeline to
[1:06:32]
extend that, my understanding.
[1:06:33]
>> So I, I just wanted to know
[1:06:34]
what your understanding is
[1:06:37]
currently. So what would be. Is
[1:06:40]
there a maximum time frame that
[1:06:43]
the board could determine or is
[1:06:44]
it up to us? Does it have to be
[1:06:46]
five years? Could it be eight
[1:06:48]
years, seven years or or is
[1:06:49]
five years within the fp that
[1:06:51]
we have to?
[1:06:56]
>> I would suggest probably.
[1:06:57]
The ones that we have slated
[1:07:00]
for the next three years. If if
[1:07:03]
this if all this whole package
[1:07:05]
is eventually passed, that we
[1:07:06]
work on those for the next
[1:07:08]
three years as we as we have
[1:07:09]
scheduled out for the next
[1:07:12]
three years, and then the
[1:07:14]
depending on capacity, if we
[1:07:15]
can go back and add the video
[1:07:18]
boards to the other schools
[1:07:19]
during the three years or after
[1:07:20]
those three years are over,
[1:07:22]
just depends on capacity. So I
[1:07:24]
would say five years. Okay, to,
[1:07:26]
to be safe.
[1:07:27]
>> But could the board go
[1:07:28]
beyond five years?
[1:07:29]
>> Yes, absolutely.
[1:07:30]
>> All right. So I have a
[1:07:32]
question. How many do we have
[1:07:33]
slated for the next three years?
[1:07:35]
>> Turf fields and all that,
[1:07:36]
doctor Watson, MR. Dorsett,
[1:07:37]
what's the number fields we
[1:07:39]
have left for the next three
[1:07:45]
years? Is it 14?
[1:07:55]
>> Let me count. We have 12.
[1:07:56]
And just for clarification
[1:07:58]
Doctor Hepburn. So we have done
[1:08:00]
year one and year two.
[1:08:00]
>> Correct.
[1:08:02]
>> So now we are on year three.
[1:08:04]
And then we have your four. And
[1:08:07]
then this would add a fifth
[1:08:09]
year because I don't know. We
[1:08:11]
have the however it's done. We
[1:08:13]
our cadence has been six a year.
[1:08:16]
So this would add a fifth year
[1:08:18]
because we actually for all of
[1:08:19]
the schools that, you know, had
[1:08:21]
stadiums that had. We had a
[1:08:23]
four year schedule to get them
[1:08:24]
done.
[1:08:28]
>> Okay. So in year one and two,
[1:08:29]
we've completed six schools per
[1:08:31]
year. So we've done 12 schools
[1:08:32]
and now we're on year three.
[1:08:35]
>> So year one, we did three
[1:08:35]
schools.
[1:08:36]
>> Okay.
[1:08:37]
>> Year two that we just
[1:08:39]
completed. We did six. And we
[1:08:41]
have we are now about to start
[1:08:43]
year three with another six
[1:08:44]
schools.
[1:08:45]
>> Okay. And those six schools
[1:08:47]
have already been identified
[1:08:49]
and scheduled to be completed.
[1:08:51]
>> So what we do is we look
[1:08:52]
annually. So we have a
[1:08:54]
tentative list of who those six
[1:08:55]
are because they're currently,
[1:08:57]
you know, complete stadiums now.
[1:08:58]
And we're going to review a
[1:09:02]
final before we actually
[1:09:03]
solidify the six. Because when
[1:09:05]
you look at maintenance records,
[1:09:09]
p o records, field utilization,
[1:09:11]
there's one school that MAY
[1:09:13]
have to come up from year four.
[1:09:16]
And then we decide on which
[1:09:17]
school from year three, based
[1:09:19]
on the entire criteria that we
[1:09:21]
look at, can go down to year
[1:09:23]
four to allow for us to keep
[1:09:25]
that cadence of six.
[1:09:27]
>> Okay, so Doctor Hepburn, I
[1:09:30]
have a few more questions in
[1:09:32]
terms of what was brought up
[1:09:36]
before as to how our action
[1:09:40]
today could impact the
[1:09:43]
redefining process in terms of
[1:09:47]
money that has to be spent for
[1:09:49]
the receiving schools and so on
[1:09:52]
and so forth. And the cost of
[1:09:54]
doing this would obviously go
[1:09:56]
below the 50 million. I think
[1:09:58]
you said 25 million, right?
[1:10:00]
Correct. And and we have 71
[1:10:02]
million. I know it's over three
[1:10:06]
years, but how do you see this?
[1:10:07]
And and I want to get a better
[1:10:08]
understanding how will this
[1:10:11]
impact other priorities as we
[1:10:13]
continue to redefine in process,
[1:10:16]
not just this year, but in
[1:10:19]
subsequent years, if we should
[1:10:22]
spend $25 million within a
[1:10:24]
three year span.
[1:10:25]
>> So it's all about what we
[1:10:27]
have available in the reserves.
[1:10:29]
If we have to come back to the
[1:10:30]
board and amended d, f, p,
[1:10:31]
because we have some projects
[1:10:33]
that are going to impact
[1:10:35]
students ability to go to the
[1:10:36]
receiving school, build outs
[1:10:38]
and things like that, we will
[1:10:40]
have to dip into the reserves
[1:10:41]
and bring that to the board. As
[1:10:43]
far as amending the d, f, p so
[1:10:45]
we can complete those projects
[1:10:46]
by the following school year.
[1:10:47]
>> So let me ask another
[1:10:49]
question. What action could we
[1:10:50]
take today in terms of
[1:10:51]
spreading this over a period of
[1:10:53]
time, to not run the risk of
[1:10:55]
having to dip into the reserves
[1:10:57]
and go below the 50 million.
[1:11:00]
>> You would need to define how
[1:11:02]
many years and how many
[1:11:03]
specific dollar amounts per
[1:11:04]
year. And, MR. CHAIRMAN, the
[1:11:06]
team can kind of help with
[1:11:07]
understanding what the reserves
[1:11:09]
would look like over a certain
[1:11:09]
time frame.
[1:11:11]
>> Okay, so with that comment
[1:11:12]
and I'll wait for MR. Shim. Can
[1:11:15]
you give us some guidance
[1:11:17]
through there, whatever they
[1:11:19]
need to work out to give us
[1:11:20]
guidance as to what time frame
[1:11:24]
would be safe to spread this
[1:11:26]
motion over so we don't have
[1:11:27]
the risk of going into the
[1:11:28]
reserves.
[1:11:30]
>> You know, so I asked the
[1:11:31]
team, since they've been doing
[1:11:32]
the work in facilitating the
[1:11:36]
work over the past two years
[1:11:38]
and that dollar amount. And,
[1:11:40]
MR. Shim, we do have money
[1:11:42]
already allocated in dfp for
[1:11:44]
so-called contingency for
[1:11:46]
redefining projects, I think.
[1:11:54]
How much is that?
[1:11:55]
>> Now, I stand corrected. We
[1:11:58]
don't have money for
[1:11:59]
contingencies. We only had
[1:12:00]
money for specific schools in
[1:12:03]
the redefining projects. But I
[1:12:07]
will point out that on page 19
[1:12:08]
in in the outer years, there
[1:12:12]
are additional dollars out
[1:12:16]
there in 2030 and 2031. So if I
[1:12:17]
understand what's currently
[1:12:18]
happening is that we have a
[1:12:21]
project scheduled in the next
[1:12:22]
couple of years, and that
[1:12:23]
you're asking if there's
[1:12:24]
available funding in the outer
[1:12:26]
years to be able to do these
[1:12:27]
projects. So there are funding
[1:12:29]
out there. But I also want to
[1:12:30]
remind you that we also have
[1:12:32]
other needs that we don't have
[1:12:32]
in this.
[1:12:34]
>> I understand. So, MR. Shim,
[1:12:35]
here's my question, and it's
[1:12:38]
very direct. The the
[1:12:40]
understanding of this motion by
[1:12:41]
Doctor Hepburn is that this is
[1:12:44]
a three year time span. I want
[1:12:46]
to know, as a board member, to
[1:12:48]
make this decision, what time
[1:12:49]
period would you recommend that
[1:12:51]
we spread this over so we don't
[1:12:53]
run the risk of going into the
[1:12:54]
reserves that can give us a
[1:12:57]
safe zone. I'm relying on your
[1:13:00]
expertise because I will not
[1:13:02]
vote on three years, because
[1:13:03]
I'm concerned about the three
[1:13:05]
years and how that will dip
[1:13:06]
into our reserves, or run the
[1:13:08]
risk of dipping into our
[1:13:11]
reserves. $25 million is also,
[1:13:13]
as DR. Zeman mentioned, it's
[1:13:14]
not a good look to spend this
[1:13:16]
money in a short period of time.
[1:13:17]
You know, when we're asking for
[1:13:18]
more money, and I understand
[1:13:19]
it's coming from different.
[1:13:21]
It's used for different buckets
[1:13:23]
and so on. But I want to know
[1:13:25]
in order to vote, what would be
[1:13:27]
your recommendation of a time
[1:13:29]
frame that we can spread this
[1:13:31]
over to not run the risk of
[1:13:33]
going into reserves where we
[1:13:35]
have a good buffer? Is it six
[1:13:36]
years? It's eight years. Is it
[1:13:38]
ten years? Is it five? What
[1:13:43]
would you recommend?
[1:13:45]
>> I mean, that's a really
[1:13:47]
difficult question from my
[1:13:48]
perspective because, you know,
[1:13:50]
these I can tell you the
[1:13:52]
numbers, but really it's the
[1:13:53]
challenge of the board. And I
[1:13:55]
can't in my position understand,
[1:13:57]
look, look down at the numbers
[1:13:58]
and make a recommendation. As
[1:14:00]
far as you know, I can tell you
[1:14:02]
what all the that there are
[1:14:03]
other needs and I can tell you
[1:14:05]
how much money there's. There
[1:14:06]
is. And.
[1:14:08]
>> Okay, so let me ask the
[1:14:09]
question another way. If we
[1:14:10]
spread this over six years,
[1:14:11]
Doctor Hepburn, how much will
[1:14:15]
we be spending per year?
[1:14:17]
>> 4 million. Yeah.
[1:14:18]
>> That is correct. About four.
[1:14:20]
A little bit over 4 million.
[1:14:21]
>> Okay. Doctor Hepburn, in
[1:14:23]
your best judgment, spending $4
[1:14:26]
million per year over six years,
[1:14:27]
would would that jeopardize
[1:14:29]
putting us in to the position
[1:14:31]
of having to go into reserves?
[1:14:33]
>> No, it it doesn't really
[1:14:34]
jeopardize that 4 million.
[1:14:34]
>> Okay.
[1:14:36]
>> Would you be comfortable
[1:14:37]
with that time period and 4
[1:14:39]
million per year?
[1:14:39]
>> Yeah.
[1:14:43]
>> Okay. So, MADAM Chair, my
[1:14:45]
concern is the time period and
[1:14:47]
how much we are going to spend.
[1:14:48]
So I don't know. I can't vote
[1:14:50]
for the motion as it is. Board
[1:14:52]
member. Hixon. But if the time
[1:14:53]
changes, I think it's more
[1:14:56]
digestible then I, I can I can
[1:14:58]
support it. So that would be my
[1:14:58]
comments.
[1:14:59]
>> MISS Hixon.
[1:15:01]
>> Thank you. And I just want
[1:15:05]
to say this motion, if it's 20
[1:15:08]
schools, is $10 million. So it
[1:15:10]
didn't make sense to say 4
[1:15:12]
million over six years is 24
[1:15:14]
million. So I think you're like
[1:15:16]
mixing everything together. We
[1:15:17]
pass those other two items
[1:15:20]
already. So this item right
[1:15:22]
here is a total of $10 million.
[1:15:24]
So if you divided that by three
[1:15:26]
years, it would be a little
[1:15:29]
over $3 million per year, not
[1:15:31]
for for three years. So if you
[1:15:32]
divided it out over six, it'd
[1:15:35]
be like one and a half. Okay.
[1:15:38]
So I the answer came out where
[1:15:40]
I think Doctor Hepburn, when he
[1:15:41]
was looking at it, included
[1:15:43]
everything together. But this
[1:15:47]
item, this motion is for 10,010.
[1:15:49]
I'm sorry, $10 million I don't
[1:15:51]
have like I said earlier, I
[1:15:52]
don't have a problem spreading
[1:15:54]
it out over over a number of
[1:15:56]
years, I it does not.
[1:15:57]
>> Okay.
[1:15:58]
>> I don't have a problem doing
[1:15:58]
that.
[1:16:01]
>> Okay. So MADAM Chair, MAY I.
[1:16:04]
Okay, so, Doctor Hepburn, I
[1:16:06]
believe that your understanding.
[1:16:10]
Board member Hixon motion to
[1:16:12]
include everything, including
[1:16:13]
the lighting and all of that.
[1:16:15]
That's where the 25 million
[1:16:18]
came from. But it only includes.
[1:16:20]
What does it include? Board
[1:16:21]
member Hixon.
[1:16:23]
>> So we already passed two
[1:16:26]
items. One was to do bleachers
[1:16:29]
this fiscal year. That's $2
[1:16:30]
million. That's a whole
[1:16:33]
separate motion. The other one
[1:16:34]
to add the four turf fields
[1:16:36]
didn't have a time frame on
[1:16:38]
them. So they'll possibly be in
[1:16:41]
year five. So those aren't
[1:16:43]
coming up like in the next year
[1:16:45]
or so. So that's like added on
[1:16:47]
to the fifth year of that. So
[1:16:49]
that was 8 million. So this
[1:16:52]
item is to do the scoreboard,
[1:16:53]
the video scoreboards at the
[1:16:56]
remaining 20 schools, which I
[1:16:57]
think we need to check on the
[1:16:59]
numbers, because I have a
[1:17:00]
feeling that it's actually less
[1:17:02]
than that, but we'll go with 20.
[1:17:05]
So at $500,000 a piece is $10
[1:17:05]
million.
[1:17:06]
>> So this doesn't this.
[1:17:09]
>> Item, this motion is for a
[1:17:11]
total of $10 million.
[1:17:12]
>> Okay. So it doesn't include
[1:17:13]
the lighting this motion.
[1:17:14]
>> No, we we. Understand
[1:17:15]
include lighting.
[1:17:16]
>> So board member Hixon, I'm
[1:17:20]
just going to ask, I believe I
[1:17:22]
would be more comfortable with
[1:17:24]
five years. I don't know if
[1:17:25]
you're willing to amend the
[1:17:26]
motion.
[1:17:26]
>> Yeah.
[1:17:27]
>> Can I can I interject though
[1:17:29]
because this doesn't have I
[1:17:30]
don't see a timeline in this
[1:17:30]
one.
[1:17:32]
>> It doesn't it just says
[1:17:34]
instill it with installation
[1:17:35]
occurring concurrently with the
[1:17:36]
turf.
[1:17:36]
>> Okay.
[1:17:38]
>> Okay. So it didn't have a
[1:17:39]
time frame. It was just saying,
[1:17:41]
if you're putting a turf field
[1:17:43]
in, you're going to include the
[1:17:45]
video scoreboard with the turf.
[1:17:47]
Okay? So it doesn't depends on
[1:17:49]
how they spread out the turf,
[1:17:51]
how this goes. I mean, they've
[1:17:52]
said they finished they'll
[1:17:54]
finish the turf in three years.
[1:17:56]
>> Okay. So I would be more
[1:17:57]
comfortable that a timeline is
[1:17:58]
put in there because Doctor
[1:18:00]
Hepburn understood it to be
[1:18:01]
three years. Yeah. So if if
[1:18:03]
it's if it's in the motion for
[1:18:05]
five years to be the time span,
[1:18:06]
then I could support a motion.
[1:18:10]
>> Can I amend it again?
[1:18:15]
Substitute motion. Okay, so I
[1:18:16]
like to make a substitute
[1:18:19]
motion I guess again. So I
[1:18:21]
moved to include video school
[1:18:22]
scoreboards at all schools
[1:18:23]
receiving turf fields,
[1:18:25]
including the remaining 20
[1:18:28]
schools scheduled to receive
[1:18:29]
artificial turf fields at
[1:18:31]
additional costs of $500,000
[1:18:34]
per school period. I or I guess,
[1:18:36]
comma. And to provide it. So
[1:18:38]
we'll take out that whole with
[1:18:39]
installation occurring
[1:18:41]
concurrently. So take out that
[1:18:43]
and to provide video
[1:18:44]
scoreboards as needed. Because
[1:18:49]
then there's no time frame. On
[1:18:52]
there. Does that make sense?
[1:18:52]
>> Okay.
[1:18:54]
>> Instead of saying you have
[1:18:55]
to put them in with the turf.
[1:18:57]
>> I'm confused. Okay. That's
[1:18:58]
what I was about to clarify
[1:18:59]
because you guys had me
[1:19:01]
confused, right? So I took.
[1:19:02]
>> That sentence out. I took
[1:19:04]
that part out. So then it's a
[1:19:06]
five year d f, so the f p. So
[1:19:08]
it could go at any time.
[1:19:10]
>> Yes. So because I know the
[1:19:11]
turf is going to be done over
[1:19:12]
three years.
[1:19:14]
>> Right. So this takes them
[1:19:17]
pairing together out. I'm fine
[1:19:17]
with that.
[1:19:19]
>> Okay. So Doctor Hepburn you
[1:19:19]
understand.
[1:19:21]
>> Yes I get it. Now.
[1:19:23]
>> Is there a second. Second
[1:19:25]
motion made by MISS Hixon or
[1:19:26]
substitute? Motion made by MISS
[1:19:28]
Hixon. Seconded by DR. Holness.
[1:19:29]
Public comment. Seeing none,
[1:19:33]
MISS Bowman.
[1:19:37]
>> I have a procedural question
[1:19:41]
to DR. Zeman point earlier. So
[1:19:43]
right now, if this isn't
[1:19:45]
actually being addressed this
[1:19:47]
year and we get this, this
[1:19:50]
comes back to us every year, is
[1:19:52]
there a pressing need for this
[1:20:01]
to be on the d, f p right now?
[1:20:02]
>> This is up to the board.
[1:20:04]
It's it's go ahead, MISS Hixon.
[1:20:06]
>> But we could do the same
[1:20:06]
thing next year.
[1:20:08]
>> Yes. We bring the dfp every.
[1:20:10]
>> Year to add any video
[1:20:11]
scoreboards though this year
[1:20:13]
this is to to be able to move
[1:20:15]
that along. So if you're going
[1:20:17]
to spread out the schools over
[1:20:20]
five years, you'd want to start.
[1:20:22]
This is the first year of five
[1:20:26]
years. So.
[1:20:27]
>> All right. All in favor of
[1:20:29]
the substitute motion, say aye.
[1:20:32]
Aye. All opposed? Say no. No.
[1:20:33]
Roll call please.
[1:20:36]
>> Roll call on the motion.
[1:20:40]
Bulman. No. Cervera on the line.
[1:20:41]
Hixon.
[1:20:42]
>> Yes.
[1:20:43]
>> Holiness.
[1:20:44]
>> Yes.
[1:20:45]
>> Leonardi.
[1:20:46]
>> No.
[1:20:47]
>> Rupert.
[1:20:48]
>> Yes.
[1:20:53]
>> Thompson. No. Zeeman and
[1:20:54]
Alhadeff.
[1:20:55]
>> Yes.
[1:21:01]
>> Motion. Four four fails.
[1:21:02]
>> So that was a substitute
[1:21:04]
motion. So where does that
[1:21:06]
leave us now, MR. Bruno?
[1:21:08]
>> That.
[1:21:10]
>> So that motion has failed.
[1:21:12]
Are there any other motions.
[1:21:13]
>> MISS Hixon?
[1:21:16]
>> Thank you. So my next motion
[1:21:18]
I move to direct the
[1:21:19]
superintendent to gather data
[1:21:20]
from the athletic directors at
[1:21:22]
the high schools with baseball
[1:21:24]
and softball fields, and to
[1:21:25]
return information on which
[1:21:27]
schools need lights for their
[1:21:29]
baseball softball fields and
[1:21:30]
the cost of those lights no
[1:21:33]
later than OCTOBER 30th, 2026.
[1:21:34]
And then, based on the
[1:21:36]
information collected, the
[1:21:37]
superintendent will bring the d,
[1:21:39]
f p back to the board so that
[1:21:42]
we can add, as necessary
[1:21:46]
baseball and softball lights.
[1:21:51]
>> Is there a second? All right.
[1:21:52]
Seeing none. Next motion.
[1:21:55]
>> Thank you. Last motion is
[1:21:57]
and I'm going to put this in.
[1:22:01]
We have on page 76 added a new
[1:22:03]
sound system and lighting for
[1:22:05]
South Plantation High School.
[1:22:07]
Seminole middle is the feeder
[1:22:09]
school into that. They have the
[1:22:12]
same dilapidated old system. So
[1:22:14]
with that information I moved
[1:22:15]
to add a new sound system and
[1:22:17]
lighting for Seminole Middle
[1:22:18]
School, with an approximate
[1:22:21]
cost of $250,000 so that it can
[1:22:24]
be identified and funded when
[1:22:25]
monies become available. So
[1:22:27]
there's no time frame in the.
[1:22:28]
>> Just to clarify for the
[1:22:29]
board, MISS Hixon is referring
[1:22:30]
to their theater lights.
[1:22:32]
>> Oh I'm sorry. Yes. Theater
[1:22:34]
lights for the for the
[1:22:36]
auditorium. I'm sorry. Yes.
[1:22:38]
Sound system and lights. So
[1:22:41]
this is not to put it in in any
[1:22:42]
particular year, but just to
[1:22:44]
say to include it in the d, f,
[1:22:46]
p. So when money becomes
[1:22:47]
available, they can repair it.
[1:22:51]
>> There a second. Second
[1:22:52]
motion made by MISS Hixon,
[1:22:54]
seconded by DR. Holness. Public
[1:22:55]
comment on the motion. Seeing
[1:22:56]
none.
[1:23:00]
>> DR. Zeman Doctor Hepburn,
[1:23:02]
have we? And you know, I wanted
[1:23:03]
to bring this up earlier too,
[1:23:05]
about our not only our long
[1:23:07]
term facility plan, but
[1:23:08]
bringing in our master planner
[1:23:09]
who is supposed to look at
[1:23:11]
everything we need in the in
[1:23:12]
the county and come back and
[1:23:14]
say, wow, you know, here's some
[1:23:15]
theater programs that don't
[1:23:16]
even, you know, have portable
[1:23:18]
microphones or a stage or basic
[1:23:20]
lights so that we can be
[1:23:21]
equitable in the way that we do
[1:23:23]
things. Do we know that
[1:23:24]
Seminole Middle School is the
[1:23:25]
highest priority for theater
[1:23:27]
light improvements?
[1:23:28]
>> No, I can't say with
[1:23:30]
confidence that I know that. I
[1:23:32]
know that the high school that
[1:23:34]
they feed in, that has a very
[1:23:35]
robust theater program is
[1:23:38]
getting updated installation of
[1:23:41]
a new system later this this
[1:23:43]
fall or winter. But I can't say
[1:23:45]
for with confidence about the
[1:23:48]
middle schools.
[1:23:50]
>> Thank you.
[1:23:55]
>> Any other board discussion?
[1:23:57]
I guess my my question would be
[1:24:01]
similar to that of DR. Zeman.
[1:24:03]
Like, are we aware of the other
[1:24:05]
like all of the middle school
[1:24:08]
theater programs, what they're
[1:24:11]
sound system lighting looks
[1:24:13]
like, like if they're more
[1:24:15]
needs?
[1:24:16]
>> No, I can't say that with
[1:24:18]
confidence. We do have facility
[1:24:20]
condition reports and with the
[1:24:21]
master planner comes on board,
[1:24:23]
as DR. Zeman alluded to, will
[1:24:25]
be reviewing all those reports
[1:24:26]
and coming to the board with a
[1:24:27]
more comprehensive plan based
[1:24:29]
on needs for programing and
[1:24:30]
other facilities.
[1:24:33]
>>>>kay. Andnd ithis relelatn
[1:24:34]
someme w?? We g a a lot of
[1:24:40]
ememls a about lighting, but I
[1:24:41]
believe that it was with
[1:24:43]
regards to South Plantation.
[1:24:44]
>> That's correct. South
[1:24:45]
Plantation High School is
[1:24:48]
getting a new system installed.
[1:24:49]
I think installation, the
[1:24:50]
completion of installation will
[1:24:53]
be later in the winter. And so
[1:24:56]
we were able to identify a
[1:24:57]
temporary solution for them in
[1:25:00]
the interim. And so that those
[1:25:01]
concerns are pretty much
[1:25:03]
rectified at this point. And
[1:25:04]
they'll have a new system later
[1:25:07]
on in the in the year. This
[1:25:09]
motion is more about ensuring
[1:25:11]
that their feet are programed.
[1:25:11]
Middle school.
[1:25:13]
>> Is okay. I'm not I mean, I'm
[1:25:16]
not like opposed to delivering
[1:25:18]
or funding a new sound system
[1:25:20]
and lighting for the theater
[1:25:21]
program at Seminole Middle. I
[1:25:23]
guess I would just like to have
[1:25:25]
a larger analysis of what the
[1:25:27]
needs are for all of these
[1:25:28]
programs throughout the
[1:25:30]
district. Anyone else?
[1:25:32]
>> MADAM Chair?
[1:25:33]
>> DR. Holness.
[1:25:38]
>> Thank you. So. If you don't
[1:25:39]
mind, MADAM Chair, board Member
[1:25:41]
Hixon is there. I know you're
[1:25:43]
the at large board member along
[1:25:44]
with DR. Zeman, and you've been
[1:25:46]
to all of your schools and and,
[1:25:48]
and you've done a very good job
[1:25:50]
of that. Is there a reason you
[1:25:53]
would prioritize Seminole and
[1:25:55]
have you from your visits to
[1:25:57]
schools, are they the highest
[1:25:59]
priority or are there not other
[1:26:00]
schools with the same issues?
[1:26:02]
>> So I actually had this
[1:26:04]
conversation with MR. Dorsett,
[1:26:07]
who is, you know, aware of all
[1:26:08]
of those things. So probably
[1:26:10]
he's better to answer that
[1:26:11]
question. But again, the
[1:26:13]
conversation came up because we
[1:26:15]
were discussing the lighting at
[1:26:18]
South Plantation and the same
[1:26:19]
issues that made South
[1:26:21]
Plantation a priority are the
[1:26:23]
issues they're having at
[1:26:24]
Seminole. And that's why the
[1:26:26]
thought was, if we're improving
[1:26:28]
South Plantation and this is
[1:26:30]
their huge feeder program into
[1:26:33]
this, you know, renowned
[1:26:34]
theater program that they're
[1:26:36]
having, that it made sense. And
[1:26:39]
again, it wasn't any particular
[1:26:40]
time in there. It was just to
[1:26:42]
say if money became available,
[1:26:44]
that we would be able to
[1:26:46]
address it. So there's not an
[1:26:48]
urgency in this particular
[1:26:50]
motion. But, MR. Dorsett, you
[1:26:53]
can add to that if you'd like.
[1:26:55]
>> Thank you. Yes. Basically,
[1:26:57]
we we did discuss the the
[1:26:59]
current condition of the
[1:27:01]
lighting at Seminole Middle
[1:27:04]
School. And as I mentioned, I
[1:27:05]
know that that's a feeder
[1:27:08]
school to Plantation High. We
[1:27:10]
do have other middle schools
[1:27:13]
with lighting issues, but the
[1:27:14]
reason why that one was
[1:27:15]
mentioned was because of the
[1:27:17]
feeder program.
[1:27:19]
>> Okay. So Doctor Hepburn, if
[1:27:21]
you don't mind, MR. Dorsett, it
[1:27:23]
mentions a new sound system and
[1:27:27]
lighting. And I am a, I do they
[1:27:28]
they feed into South Plantation
[1:27:31]
and Plantation high.
[1:27:33]
>> I believe the program is
[1:27:35]
with South Plantation High
[1:27:36]
School so that.
[1:27:38]
>> Okay, so South Plantation
[1:27:41]
High School has this sort of
[1:27:43]
theater type program, and
[1:27:44]
Seminole Middle School feeds
[1:27:47]
into it. So it's an essential
[1:27:49]
component as far as a feeder
[1:27:51]
into sub plantation high school
[1:27:51]
program.
[1:27:53]
>> Well, it's it's the fact
[1:27:55]
that the current condition of
[1:27:57]
that system. And if the the
[1:28:00]
students are migrating from
[1:28:02]
that particular program going
[1:28:04]
into the high school program,
[1:28:06]
we figured we thought that that
[1:28:09]
would be something that we
[1:28:12]
should look at again, to MISS
[1:28:14]
Hickson's point, we're not
[1:28:16]
saying that funded right now.
[1:28:18]
We're saying we need to make
[1:28:19]
preparations for it.
[1:28:21]
>> Now, I understand I am just
[1:28:25]
trying to get an idea as to the
[1:28:27]
the importance of having it
[1:28:29]
done at Seminole, at least at
[1:28:31]
some point, and why we are not
[1:28:34]
looking at the entire district.
[1:28:36]
And I. I guess my next question
[1:28:38]
would be for other middle
[1:28:41]
schools with these kind of a
[1:28:43]
program where you need sound
[1:28:46]
and lighting, they don't
[1:28:47]
necessarily feed into a high
[1:28:49]
school. Correct. That offers
[1:28:51]
theater and that kind of thing.
[1:28:54]
But Seminole seems to be
[1:28:56]
essential in in those students
[1:28:57]
transitioning over to South
[1:28:59]
Plantation High that their
[1:29:01]
theater program is working, the
[1:29:02]
equipment working so it can,
[1:29:05]
they can be able to transition
[1:29:06]
smoothly into South Plantation
[1:29:07]
high into that program. Right.
[1:29:09]
Is that is that correct?
[1:29:11]
>> That is correct. We, we, we
[1:29:14]
again, the we do have a list of,
[1:29:16]
of, of schools, middle schools
[1:29:19]
and high schools with lighting
[1:29:21]
issues. And we are working that
[1:29:24]
list. It is prioritized. But
[1:29:26]
the reason why we wanted to
[1:29:29]
look at Seminole at this time,
[1:29:31]
again, not to say you need to
[1:29:33]
fund it this year because of
[1:29:35]
the program. We wanted to, to
[1:29:39]
to look at moving it up, or at
[1:29:41]
least identifying the funds for
[1:29:41]
that.
[1:29:43]
>> Okay. So let me ask you one
[1:29:45]
last question. If in fact,
[1:29:46]
whether we do it this year or
[1:29:47]
next year or two years, three
[1:29:49]
years from now, if we don't
[1:29:50]
remedy this problem at Seminole
[1:29:53]
Middle, will it impact the
[1:29:54]
program? At the high school,
[1:29:56]
South Plantation High School?
[1:29:59]
>> Well, again, it has
[1:30:00]
something to do with it. We're
[1:30:02]
going to keep it running. And
[1:30:04]
until such time as funding is
[1:30:06]
available again, the system is
[1:30:07]
antiquated. It's it's it's
[1:30:09]
outdated and it's costing more
[1:30:11]
to maintain it than it than it
[1:30:12]
would be to replace it.
[1:30:14]
>> Got it. Thank you. Thank you,
[1:30:15]
MADAM Chair.
[1:30:17]
>> Any other board discussion?
[1:30:19]
MISS Bulman?
[1:30:22]
>> So it would take if we rip
[1:30:23]
the Band-Aid off and put a new
[1:30:25]
system in there, we'd actually
[1:30:28]
be saving money.
[1:30:29]
>> Basically, on that
[1:30:31]
particular system. Yes. Over.
[1:30:35]
Over time, I can provide
[1:30:37]
maintenance log of work that
[1:30:39]
was done at that school and it
[1:30:41]
would probably be more it'll be
[1:30:43]
cost effective to just go ahead
[1:30:44]
and replace it.
[1:30:45]
>> Thank you.
[1:30:46]
>> MRS. Alhadeff.
[1:30:49]
>> So I would vote yes on this,
[1:30:50]
but also Doctor Harp and I
[1:30:52]
would like to know what other
[1:30:54]
schools are we paying more on
[1:30:56]
maintenance to keep it up and
[1:30:57]
going instead of just replacing
[1:30:58]
it?
[1:31:01]
>> The information will be in a
[1:31:02]
comprehensive package for the
[1:31:03]
board after our master planner
[1:31:06]
comes on board. Right? So DR.
[1:31:08]
Zeman kind of alluded to this.
[1:31:10]
That's what that job of that
[1:31:11]
person or that that business
[1:31:13]
will be collecting all the
[1:31:14]
facilities condition assessment,
[1:31:17]
which has gone over every asset
[1:31:19]
of every school to really
[1:31:21]
understand the maintenance
[1:31:23]
that's needed, the amount of
[1:31:25]
money we're probably wasting on
[1:31:26]
maintaining old antiquated
[1:31:28]
systems and ripping them out
[1:31:30]
and putting in new things. Or I
[1:31:31]
for the same for school
[1:31:32]
buildings as well.
[1:31:34]
>> Thank you.
[1:31:36]
>> All right. All in favor of
[1:31:38]
the motion.
[1:31:39]
>> Can you.
[1:31:40]
>> Oh, I'm sorry, MADAM Chair.
[1:31:42]
Can you sorry, MADAM Chair, can
[1:31:45]
you restate the the question
[1:31:45]
here.
[1:31:47]
>> The move the motion is I
[1:31:49]
move to add a new sound system
[1:31:50]
and lighting for Seminole
[1:31:51]
Middle School, with an
[1:31:52]
approximate cost of $250,000,
[1:31:54]
so that it can be identified
[1:31:55]
and funded when money is become
[1:31:57]
available.
[1:31:58]
>> Thank you.
[1:32:00]
>> All in favor of the motion,
[1:32:00]
say aye.
[1:32:01]
>> Aye.
[1:32:03]
>> All opposed? Say no. Motion
[1:32:07]
passes unanimously. MISS Hixon
[1:32:08]
is done, MISS Bulman.
[1:32:10]
>> I'm done. Thank.
[1:32:12]
>> So it came to my attention
[1:32:14]
for motion number two that we
[1:32:19]
passed. These four schools that
[1:32:21]
we named that Harlandale High
[1:32:22]
School is not currently on the
[1:32:27]
list. Is that is it our.
[1:32:28]
>> And I think Plantation High
[1:32:30]
School too. Correct me if I'm
[1:32:31]
wrong, doctor, if you can speak
[1:32:33]
on that. Just came to my
[1:32:33]
attention to.
[1:32:37]
>> Sure. So with Harlandale, we
[1:32:40]
started working on the
[1:32:41]
environmental issues. Right.
[1:32:43]
That would have to be mitigated.
[1:32:45]
MR. Dorsett and his team went
[1:32:46]
out to do that analysis on that.
[1:32:48]
So when when you look at the
[1:32:50]
actual schedule, what we name
[1:32:52]
that we would do in year two is
[1:32:53]
work on the environmental
[1:32:55]
issues and start to look at the
[1:32:57]
whole conversation with the
[1:32:59]
city of Hollywood. But
[1:33:01]
Hallandale and Hollywood Hills
[1:33:04]
High School, along with monarch
[1:33:05]
West Broward and J.P. Taravella,
[1:33:08]
were not expressly named in a
[1:33:09]
particular year in the work
[1:33:12]
that we did. But what we also
[1:33:14]
know is at the end of last
[1:33:15]
school year, the recreational
[1:33:17]
lease with the City of
[1:33:19]
Plantation ended. For them to
[1:33:21]
have that joint use of the
[1:33:22]
field at Plantation High. So
[1:33:25]
now that it is our sole use, we
[1:33:28]
no longer share time using that
[1:33:30]
field with the city. It would
[1:33:34]
be advisable advisable to add
[1:33:37]
plantation. So really the list
[1:33:39]
would read. If the motion is
[1:33:40]
reconsidered, it would be to
[1:33:42]
add J.P. Taravella, West
[1:33:43]
Broward, monarch, Hollywood
[1:33:45]
Hills High Plantation High
[1:33:46]
School and Hallandale High
[1:33:50]
School so that. So adding those
[1:33:51]
schools, Doctor Hepburn would
[1:33:54]
really complete out a five year
[1:33:55]
project. And the reason why I
[1:33:57]
say that is we've done the
[1:34:00]
first two. We're working on the
[1:34:02]
next two. And then that would.
[1:34:03]
In whatever order we determine
[1:34:05]
based off of condition of feel
[1:34:07]
and stuff, that would be a true
[1:34:09]
five year project for all
[1:34:14]
schools with with turf fields.
[1:34:20]
>> So so can as a prevailing. A
[1:34:21]
person on the prevailing side
[1:34:24]
of the or that voted. Can we
[1:34:26]
bring that motion back? Can I
[1:34:28]
bring the motion back?
[1:34:29]
>> MADAM General Council.
[1:34:33]
>> Those two schools.
[1:34:34]
>> From the prevailing side.
[1:34:35]
Yes.
[1:34:36]
>> Thank you. So I move to
[1:34:38]
bring back motion number two
[1:34:40]
and add Plantation High School
[1:34:43]
and Hallandale Magnet High
[1:34:44]
School to the list.
[1:34:45]
>> Motion made by MISS Bulman,
[1:34:46]
seconded by MISS Hixon. Public
[1:34:48]
comment on the motion board
[1:34:51]
member comment DR. Zeman.
[1:34:52]
>> Doctor Hepburn. Doctor Wanza
[1:34:53]
just said that would be all
[1:34:55]
high schools in Broward County
[1:34:56]
would have a turf field. Is
[1:34:57]
that true?
[1:34:59]
>> Besides Stranahan and Fort
[1:35:00]
Lauderdale?
[1:35:01]
>> Can I read the list that
[1:35:03]
don't? Because I just want to
[1:35:04]
be on the record that's giving
[1:35:06]
the board the right information.
[1:35:07]
So the schools that would not.
[1:35:09]
So Coral Glades, we do a
[1:35:11]
partnership with the City of
[1:35:13]
Coral Springs for the
[1:35:14]
Sportsplex next to the school.
[1:35:17]
So, so and and they have turf.
[1:35:20]
Yeah. Okay. So plantation would
[1:35:22]
be added if the board considers
[1:35:23]
the motion as well as
[1:35:25]
Hallandale. I already spoke
[1:35:27]
about jp I'm sorry, Stranahan
[1:35:28]
High School and Fort Lauderdale
[1:35:30]
High School. So the remaining
[1:35:33]
schools would be plantation
[1:35:34]
Hallandale, J.P. Taravella,
[1:35:36]
West Broward, Monarch and
[1:35:37]
Hollywood Hills.
[1:35:38]
>> So let me just talk about
[1:35:41]
this then for a minute. The
[1:35:42]
exclusion of Fort Lauderdale
[1:35:43]
and Stranahan High School is
[1:35:44]
because they don't have room
[1:35:47]
for stadium bleacher seats and
[1:35:48]
lights. Is that correct?
[1:35:49]
>> Yes, sir.
[1:35:53]
>> So so it seems strange to me
[1:35:55]
that we would ask them to go
[1:35:56]
play games on synthetic turf
[1:35:57]
field, having never stepped
[1:36:00]
foot on them, which is what
[1:36:01]
we're saying. We're going to
[1:36:02]
leave grass at Fort Lauderdale
[1:36:03]
and Stranahan because they
[1:36:05]
don't have the ability to host
[1:36:06]
games there, but they're not
[1:36:07]
going to have the advantage of
[1:36:08]
having synthetic turf field for
[1:36:11]
all their workouts, like their
[1:36:13]
teams aren't going to be able
[1:36:14]
to use the advantages of
[1:36:15]
synthetic turf. I mean, is that
[1:36:17]
really what we're saying with
[1:36:18]
this rollout, that 28 of our
[1:36:20]
high schools will get it, but
[1:36:21]
not to? Those two would never
[1:36:23]
be able to practice or take
[1:36:24]
advantage of synthetic turf
[1:36:25]
field for the bulk of the time
[1:36:27]
that they're used for, which is
[1:36:28]
for practice, not for games.
[1:36:30]
>> So I don't know if and I'll
[1:36:32]
have to double check DR. Zeman.
[1:36:33]
I don't know if Coral Glades
[1:36:34]
actually practices on the field
[1:36:35]
that they.
[1:36:36]
>> Claim is covered.
[1:36:37]
>> I'm fine with that.
[1:36:38]
>> Okay. There's two left.
[1:36:40]
Right at their athletes would
[1:36:41]
not be able to train on
[1:36:42]
synthetic turf field. Out of
[1:36:44]
the 30 schools, Coral Glades
[1:36:45]
has direct access to the one
[1:36:47]
across the way. But Fort
[1:36:48]
Lauderdale athletes and
[1:36:49]
Stranahan athletes would not
[1:36:51]
have the opportunity to train
[1:36:52]
on synthetic turf field under
[1:36:53]
that program.
[1:36:54]
>> Not if it's on there. If
[1:36:56]
what if they are training on
[1:36:57]
their campus? To your point, as
[1:36:59]
the rest of the schools train
[1:37:00]
on their campus and what you
[1:37:02]
are saying is accurate, it's
[1:37:03]
100% accurate.
[1:37:03]
>> Okay, terrific. Well, then
[1:37:06]
I'd like to make a motion to
[1:37:08]
amend what MISS Bowman brought
[1:37:11]
up to complete the other two
[1:37:12]
high schools, Fort Lauderdale
[1:37:13]
High School and Stranahan to
[1:37:15]
have synthetic turf field when
[1:37:16]
the program fits in the
[1:37:18]
criteria as you MARCH through.
[1:37:20]
But I'll just stop there and
[1:37:23]
I'll talk about why later.
[1:37:25]
>> Second, public comment on
[1:37:30]
the amendment. I seconded it.
[1:37:31]
Motion made by DR. Zeman.
[1:37:34]
Seconded by me. No public
[1:37:36]
comment. Board member comment.
[1:37:37]
DR. Zeman.
[1:37:38]
>> Thank you. And again, you
[1:37:42]
know, I, I just wouldn't feel
[1:37:44]
good saying oh my, you built in
[1:37:45]
an urban environment so you
[1:37:47]
can't put up lights and
[1:37:48]
bleachers because you're in a
[1:37:49]
constrained environment.
[1:37:50]
Therefore your athletes aren't
[1:37:51]
allowed to train on the field
[1:37:53]
that they have to go play games
[1:37:54]
on. And it's wonderful that we
[1:37:55]
have synthetic turf fields for
[1:37:57]
them to go play games. But I
[1:37:59]
just would feel a lot better if
[1:38:00]
we could look at every high
[1:38:02]
school in Broward County and
[1:38:03]
say, you either have a turf
[1:38:05]
field in the plan or you're
[1:38:06]
going to use one, you know,
[1:38:08]
adjacent space, that we have a
[1:38:09]
reciprocal use agreement. To me,
[1:38:10]
this kind of passes the
[1:38:11]
Equitability test and allows us
[1:38:13]
to do things when we have time.
[1:38:15]
Again, not jamming it into any
[1:38:16]
specific year, but we're doing
[1:38:18]
six per year. It seems to be a
[1:38:20]
pace that we can do. I want to
[1:38:21]
make sure that everybody in
[1:38:23]
Broward County can train and
[1:38:25]
play their scrimmages and
[1:38:26]
practices on this amazing
[1:38:29]
synthetic turf field. Thank you.
[1:38:31]
>> Any other comment? All in
[1:38:33]
favor of the amendment, say aye.
[1:38:33]
>> Aye.
[1:38:35]
>> All opposed? Say no.
[1:38:37]
Amendment passes unanimously
[1:38:40]
back to the motion. The
[1:38:43]
amendment passes like.
[1:38:44]
>> The motion.
[1:38:47]
>> As amended. Thank you.
[1:38:48]
Anyone else on the motion?
[1:38:52]
>> Oh, no.
[1:38:53]
>> All right. All in favor of
[1:38:55]
the motion, as amended.
[1:38:55]
>> Excuse me.
[1:38:56]
>> Chair.
[1:38:56]
>> Go ahead.
[1:38:58]
>> DR. Zeman no, no, no one on
[1:39:00]
this mention. I just have some
[1:39:01]
comments on the defp on round
[1:39:03]
one. I haven't got to yet. I
[1:39:03]
apologize.
[1:39:05]
>> All in favor of the motion
[1:39:06]
as amended, say aye.
[1:39:07]
>> Aye.
[1:39:08]
>> All opposed? Say no. Motion
[1:39:10]
as amended passes unanimously,
[1:39:13]
MISS Bulman. DR. Zeman.
[1:39:15]
>> Thank you very much. I just
[1:39:17]
want to make sure that we're
[1:39:18]
all aware of one acceleration
[1:39:19]
that happened here, this $23
[1:39:21]
million of additional funds to
[1:39:22]
make sure that we're
[1:39:24]
beautifying and repairing,
[1:39:25]
replacing, doing the kinds of
[1:39:27]
things is core. Doctor Hepburn,
[1:39:29]
to your strategic goals. If we
[1:39:31]
want to win students back,
[1:39:32]
we've got to make sure that our
[1:39:34]
schools look as good as they
[1:39:36]
train and educate our kids. And
[1:39:37]
right now, way too many places
[1:39:39]
that we visit fail that. And
[1:39:41]
it's not just from the curb
[1:39:42]
appeal and the beautification,
[1:39:43]
but it's core things like
[1:39:46]
plastic windows from 1952,
[1:39:47]
still at one of our elementary
[1:39:49]
schools in Broward County. I
[1:39:51]
cannot wait to have this master
[1:39:52]
planner here so we can bring
[1:39:54]
some dang priorities to this
[1:39:56]
board and restore order and
[1:39:57]
discipline for the way we spend
[1:40:00]
these funds. It is critical
[1:40:02]
that we get this done. And I'm
[1:40:03]
tickled, Doctor Hepburn, that
[1:40:04]
we have the facilities
[1:40:06]
condition assessment data, but
[1:40:08]
we got to use that data to kind
[1:40:10]
of make the best decisions that
[1:40:11]
we possibly can. And there's
[1:40:13]
going to be a lot of flux going
[1:40:14]
on. There's going to be some
[1:40:16]
number of schools that close at
[1:40:17]
the end of this year. There's
[1:40:19]
no doubt there's going to be a
[1:40:20]
huge decline in enrollment
[1:40:21]
again next year if the
[1:40:22]
projections are correct. So
[1:40:23]
there's potential for more
[1:40:25]
schools that are going to close
[1:40:26]
in Broward County down the road.
[1:40:28]
We've got to kind of manage
[1:40:29]
this, you know, moving system
[1:40:31]
in a way that can make the
[1:40:32]
community and the board feel
[1:40:33]
good about what we're investing.
[1:40:34]
But that investment, ming
[1:40:36]
money forward from out years to
[1:40:37]
do it this year is great.
[1:40:40]
Doctor Hepburn, how can you
[1:40:41]
guarantee this board that we
[1:40:45]
are going to execute a total of
[1:40:47]
$92.04 million? That is going
[1:40:49]
to ppo to get these projects
[1:40:50]
done to win back students, how
[1:40:53]
are you going to guarantee that
[1:40:54]
$7.7 million will be spent per
[1:40:57]
month this year? How will we
[1:40:59]
execute with fidelity on this
[1:41:02]
critical program?
[1:41:05]
>> Beautification is you quoted
[1:41:06]
some numbers that are exceeds
[1:41:07]
the beautification budget.
[1:41:08]
>> Oh no. That doesn't exceed
[1:41:10]
the beautification budget at
[1:41:13]
all. My dear friend. There is
[1:41:14]
$68.74 million in the budget.
[1:41:16]
We added $23 million. We have.
[1:41:17]
And I only because I hate to
[1:41:19]
make mistakes with numbers this
[1:41:22]
time I don't think I did $92.04
[1:41:23]
million of money going to ppo.
[1:41:26]
But how do we get p o to ramp
[1:41:28]
up by 40% so that, you know, in
[1:41:29]
that p o doesn't always finish
[1:41:31]
what we asked them to do in a
[1:41:33]
given year, how do we make sure
[1:41:34]
we can burn $7.7 million of
[1:41:35]
these projects per month?
[1:41:37]
>> I think, Mark, Mark Dorsett
[1:41:38]
has demonstrated some things in
[1:41:40]
the past few months that people
[1:41:41]
can't get the work done and do
[1:41:43]
it on time and do it, do it
[1:41:46]
early as well too. So yeah, so
[1:41:48]
i think we have the right
[1:41:50]
leadership and, you know, if we
[1:41:50]
need additional.
[1:41:52]
>> But boy, we've got to get
[1:41:53]
those reports. Absolutely. Can
[1:41:55]
we get a monthly report on that?
[1:41:55]
>> Correct.
[1:41:56]
>> Yep. Thank you doctor.
[1:41:57]
Doctor Dorsett trying to
[1:42:00]
promote you again. You know I,
[1:42:02]
I just got to tell a quick
[1:42:03]
story. I got to do a graduation
[1:42:06]
with Mark Dorsett this year.
[1:42:10]
And I am so humbled to have
[1:42:11]
been there with you. Because
[1:42:13]
after 40 years you got to be on
[1:42:15]
the stage, my friend. And that
[1:42:16]
was such a moment. I'll never
[1:42:17]
forget that.
[1:42:18]
>> It was, and I appreciate
[1:42:19]
that.
[1:42:20]
>> That was that was something
[1:42:22]
else. Thank you. Second
[1:42:23]
question is, we've got a
[1:42:25]
carryover on transportation.
[1:42:26]
I've talked to your staff about
[1:42:27]
it, Doctor Hepburn. I
[1:42:30]
understand that it's a
[1:42:32]
carryover of a lease. It's a
[1:42:34]
carryover of dollars that are
[1:42:37]
shown as this will be MISS
[1:42:38]
Hickson's favorite moment of
[1:42:42]
the night. A budget
[1:42:45]
authorization as opposed to a
[1:42:47]
budget. And we've just got to
[1:42:48]
be very, very careful because
[1:42:50]
if we have a dollar in a column
[1:42:52]
under a year with a column next
[1:42:54]
to it, we think that as a board
[1:42:55]
that that's money being spent
[1:42:56]
that year in that category,
[1:42:57]
rather than authorizing money
[1:42:59]
to spend over a considerable
[1:43:01]
amount of time. So as we move
[1:43:02]
forward with d, f, p, if we can
[1:43:04]
just be very thoughtful about
[1:43:05]
making sure that budgets come
[1:43:07]
through in a very common sense
[1:43:08]
approach and format, I would
[1:43:09]
really appreciate it. I don't
[1:43:10]
want the board, and I don't
[1:43:12]
want the community to be
[1:43:13]
confused about the difference
[1:43:15]
between spending a dollar and
[1:43:16]
authorizing a dollar, because
[1:43:17]
those are fundamentally
[1:43:18]
different things. Obligating is
[1:43:19]
a whole nother one. Awarding is
[1:43:21]
another. Verbs all over the
[1:43:23]
finance world. When we see a
[1:43:24]
budget, it's got to mean a
[1:43:25]
dollars being spent that year
[1:43:28]
in that category. Clean, plain
[1:43:30]
and simple. But I appreciate
[1:43:32]
the clarity on this. I love the
[1:43:33]
pictures done by district that
[1:43:36]
really made this have a lot of
[1:43:38]
eye wash that it didn't have in
[1:43:39]
previous years. Thank you,
[1:43:41]
Doctor Hepburn.
[1:43:43]
>> Thank you, MISS Thompson.
[1:43:45]
>> Thank you chair. I would
[1:43:47]
like to make a motion to add a
[1:43:49]
light system to Westborough.
[1:43:51]
J.P. Taravella Monarch and
[1:43:53]
Hollywood High Hills at the
[1:43:54]
same time that they are going
[1:43:57]
to be receiving the turf fields.
[1:43:59]
>> Second motion made by MR.
[1:44:00]
Thompson, seconded by MISS
[1:44:02]
Rupert public comment on the
[1:44:08]
motion. MISS Thompson. You
[1:44:09]
don't have anything to add?
[1:44:09]
Okay.
[1:44:11]
>> Well, I just think if we're
[1:44:12]
spending all this money on
[1:44:13]
fields, we should probably give
[1:44:15]
them the whole package. I think
[1:44:17]
waiting on cities to maybe
[1:44:19]
fulfill promises is not safe.
[1:44:22]
And I would like to fulfill a
[1:44:23]
promise to West Broward to give
[1:44:24]
them lights.
[1:44:26]
>> MISS Hixon.
[1:44:29]
>> Thank you. I don't mind the
[1:44:30]
suggestion, but we do have a
[1:44:33]
city who's already said that
[1:44:35]
they would be willing to do
[1:44:38]
that. So I wouldn't want to put
[1:44:39]
take money out of the dfp if
[1:44:41]
the city is willing to partner.
[1:44:43]
So I don't know that we should
[1:44:46]
add. We could always add J.P.
[1:44:47]
Taravella later if it falls
[1:44:48]
through, but I wouldn't want to
[1:44:51]
add them now because we do have
[1:44:52]
a commitment from the city
[1:44:55]
based on some of the motions we
[1:44:57]
just passed.
[1:44:59]
>> DR. Holness thank you, MADAM
[1:45:01]
Chair. So, Doctor Hepburn, I
[1:45:04]
like the idea of having
[1:45:06]
partnershihips w with her
[1:45:08]
municicililities and s s on.
[1:45:10]
A And I kww board member
[1:45:12]
Hixon mentioned one particular
[1:45:16]
city that would be willing. Do
[1:45:20]
you. What is your take on
[1:45:23]
engaging remaining cities to
[1:45:25]
see if they would match. Is it
[1:45:26]
Coral Springs board member
[1:45:30]
Hixon to see if they would join
[1:45:32]
Coral Springs and be
[1:45:33]
collaborative with Broward
[1:45:35]
County Schools and assist us in
[1:45:37]
the betterment of our students
[1:45:39]
in helping us with with some
[1:45:39]
lighting?
[1:45:40]
>> Yeah. We have no problem
[1:45:42]
engaging with cities. It's all
[1:45:43]
about commitment and follow
[1:45:44]
through.
[1:45:45]
>> Okay, so let me ask another
[1:45:47]
question. If this motion
[1:45:52]
doesn't pass and do we still
[1:45:54]
have time for you to engage
[1:45:56]
with the city to come back to
[1:45:58]
us? And we can put this back on
[1:45:59]
at a later date?
[1:46:00]
>> Yeah, we have plenty of time
[1:46:02]
to engage with the cities. Yeah,
[1:46:02]
absolutely.
[1:46:03]
>> And depending on that
[1:46:05]
feedback, we could bring this
[1:46:06]
item back, correct? Correct. If
[1:46:07]
we're not getting traction and
[1:46:10]
and add add it to the dfp.
[1:46:11]
>> Correct. Yeah.
[1:46:13]
>> Okay. All right. Thank you,
[1:46:14]
MADAM Chair.
[1:46:15]
>> Anyone else, MISS Thompson?
[1:46:17]
>> I would just like to say
[1:46:18]
I've already engaged with the
[1:46:19]
city of Pembroke Pines. This is
[1:46:21]
not going to be something on
[1:46:23]
their priorities. I would also
[1:46:26]
like to say, if amendment three
[1:46:27]
passes, this will probably not
[1:46:29]
be on their priorities. Also, I
[1:46:31]
feel like we have and I'm not
[1:46:33]
trying to be disparaging, but
[1:46:35]
we have had cities come and
[1:46:37]
promise us stuff and then it
[1:46:38]
didn't come through. So I would
[1:46:42]
just we could move Taravella to
[1:46:44]
a later date in case Coral
[1:46:46]
Springs does. But my
[1:46:47]
understanding from the letter
[1:46:49]
is that there is a lot of other
[1:46:52]
things that we had to commit to,
[1:46:53]
so this way we can at least
[1:46:56]
ensure that the money that
[1:47:00]
we're putting into sports
[1:47:03]
places, they can have the games
[1:47:05]
and they can have the lights.
[1:47:06]
Also, West Broward is second in
[1:47:08]
the state for football and is
[1:47:11]
really good at cheerleading.
[1:47:14]
Maybe some other things. So I
[1:47:20]
just what? Oh, yeah, but you
[1:47:21]
don't I don't think you compete
[1:47:24]
on football fields anyway. We
[1:47:26]
might. And we are national
[1:47:28]
ranking for West Broward. So I
[1:47:30]
just if we want to wait and
[1:47:32]
talk to Coconut Creek, that's
[1:47:34]
fine. Or Hollywood. That's fine.
[1:47:37]
I just. Pembroke Pines this
[1:47:39]
would probably not be one of
[1:47:42]
their priorities right now.
[1:47:44]
>> MISS Dixon.
[1:47:47]
>> I would. We've already heard
[1:47:48]
that the city of Hollywood and
[1:47:50]
the community doesn't want the
[1:47:52]
lights at Hollywood Hills High
[1:47:54]
School, so I wouldn't also want
[1:47:56]
to put that one on there. So, I
[1:47:58]
mean, a friendly suggestion
[1:48:00]
would be to put Monarch in West
[1:48:01]
Broward because again, I don't
[1:48:02]
have a problem adding the
[1:48:04]
lights. I again, MISS Alhadeff
[1:48:05]
said it. We believe there
[1:48:07]
should be a whole package. When
[1:48:09]
you do it, don't do it halfway.
[1:48:10]
But I also don't want to commit
[1:48:13]
dollars that we know we're not
[1:48:16]
going to be able to use at this
[1:48:18]
point because there is a
[1:48:19]
commitment. And then there is
[1:48:22]
also a non commitment and not
[1:48:24]
wanting it. So I would suggest
[1:48:26]
a friendly amendment to add
[1:48:28]
just the two of them for right
[1:48:29]
now, with the idea that could
[1:48:31]
come back if necessary, to add
[1:48:36]
the other two.
[1:48:38]
>> MISS Bulman and then DR.
[1:48:40]
Zeman.
[1:48:43]
>> Okay, so again, because I'm
[1:48:44]
having a hard time
[1:48:48]
comprehending this. If we're
[1:48:51]
adding them, if we're adding
[1:48:53]
lights for when they receive
[1:48:55]
turf fields, then this is kind
[1:48:57]
of an indeterminate time, right?
[1:49:00]
We're just kind of saying we're
[1:49:01]
going to do it at some point in
[1:49:07]
the future. It's not scheduled.
[1:49:09]
Is there a harm to that then,
[1:49:12]
of putting it on for the later,
[1:49:14]
for a later date, when we don't
[1:49:16]
have a schedule for any of this
[1:49:18]
yet, we're just naming a
[1:49:19]
priority.
[1:49:20]
>> That's what it sounds like
[1:49:21]
to me.
[1:49:23]
>> Okay, so then I think, and
[1:49:28]
we can maybe work on that. Not
[1:49:32]
together on on Hollywood Hills
[1:49:34]
and Hollywood, right? And then
[1:49:35]
everyone can work on their
[1:49:37]
things. But if we put it on the
[1:49:38]
list, then at least we know
[1:49:40]
that it's going to happen one
[1:49:42]
way or the other, and it's not
[1:49:43]
happening right now. It could
[1:49:47]
happen in. I guess I don't
[1:49:48]
understand, like we're agreeing
[1:49:49]
that we're putting this on the
[1:49:51]
list, but when is it coming on
[1:49:52]
the list? Like how does that
[1:49:54]
look for us moving forward?
[1:49:55]
>> This motion probably needs a
[1:49:57]
specific timeline of that. It
[1:50:03]
will come later in a.
[1:50:05]
>> Well as they receive the
[1:50:05]
artificial turf field. So that
[1:50:07]
would just correspond with the.
[1:50:09]
So you MAY have.
[1:50:10]
>> Received artificial turf
[1:50:13]
during this this school year.
[1:50:15]
>> But these guys won't. None
[1:50:16]
of these on the list will
[1:50:18]
because they weren't even on
[1:50:22]
the list. Right. Is that true?
[1:50:24]
>> Just go ahead.
[1:50:26]
>> So the way the schedule was
[1:50:27]
initially constructed. No, they
[1:50:29]
were not. They would they would
[1:50:33]
be theoretically in year five.
[1:50:34]
>> Okay.
[1:50:36]
>> So we can put this on there
[1:50:39]
for year five and revisit it in
[1:50:41]
the future. But it listed
[1:50:43]
basically we're making it a
[1:50:45]
priority or you can move this.
[1:50:46]
Okay. Thank you.
[1:50:48]
>> MADAM Chair. I have a point
[1:50:48]
of clarification.
[1:50:50]
>> Yeah, I was just.
[1:50:50]
>> About okay.
[1:50:52]
>> Go ahead. MISS Hixon had an
[1:50:54]
amendment. It was. Is there a
[1:50:55]
second to MISS Hickson's
[1:50:56]
amendment?
[1:50:57]
>> Second.
[1:50:59]
>> Seconded by DR. Holness
[1:51:01]
comment on the amendment.
[1:51:03]
>> DR. Zeman it. If I
[1:51:04]
understand it correctly, MISS
[1:51:06]
Hickson's amendment was to only
[1:51:08]
do two high schools. Is that
[1:51:12]
correct? Yes. Thank you. And
[1:51:14]
just a point of order. You know,
[1:51:16]
budgets look like spreadsheets,
[1:51:17]
right? They have numbers,
[1:51:19]
columns and rows, but they have
[1:51:20]
to have a number in them. You
[1:51:22]
can't just say, I want to add
[1:51:24]
to a budget without saying a
[1:51:25]
price. So I'm just curious,
[1:51:27]
chair, do we need to come up
[1:51:30]
with an approximate cost of
[1:51:31]
these lighting systems in order
[1:51:32]
to make this motion pass?
[1:51:33]
Procedurally.
[1:51:35]
>> Doctor Hepburn or General
[1:51:39]
council.
[1:51:41]
>> No, I was going to say it
[1:51:42]
needs the price so we can
[1:51:44]
actually budget for it. And I
[1:51:45]
would go to the higher end of
[1:51:47]
that price because if it's
[1:51:48]
years out, the cost escalation
[1:51:50]
for materials and labor is
[1:51:51]
certainly going to be higher
[1:51:53]
than it is right now.
[1:51:55]
>> All right. So I think we
[1:51:56]
would deal with that through an
[1:51:58]
amendment, a separate amendment,
[1:52:00]
since we are on one amendment
[1:52:01]
right now and now we're doing
[1:52:02]
amendments.
[1:52:03]
>> Terrific. And so I can do
[1:52:06]
that next, if you'd like, chair,
[1:52:08]
and add a decent estimate for
[1:52:09]
what it would look like out
[1:52:13]
there, these two schools,
[1:52:15]
Doctor Hepburn, would they be
[1:52:18]
the highest priority schools to
[1:52:19]
get lighting for an athletic
[1:52:21]
field in Broward County.
[1:52:23]
>> And the two schools are West
[1:52:24]
Broward. And what was the other
[1:52:27]
one in monarch? Yes. As far as
[1:52:29]
the schools that have no lights.
[1:52:30]
Yes. Because from my
[1:52:32]
understanding, the Hollywood
[1:52:33]
Hills community does not want
[1:52:34]
lights.
[1:52:35]
>> Terrific. And obviously this
[1:52:37]
is subject to the city's
[1:52:38]
correct. And to give us the
[1:52:40]
permits to do it correct,
[1:52:41]
correct permissions from the
[1:52:42]
neighbors and things like that.
[1:52:43]
We think we have that. But a
[1:52:45]
lot of things can happen in
[1:52:46]
five years as well. So i
[1:52:48]
totally understand, but I, I
[1:52:50]
understand the motion, but I'm
[1:52:52]
ready to make an amendment
[1:52:53]
later when it's ready. Chair.
[1:52:54]
>> MISS Alhadeff right.
[1:52:56]
>> Yes. My comment is to Doctor
[1:52:59]
Hepburn. I would recommend that
[1:53:01]
we reach out to companies to be
[1:53:04]
sponsors of this lighting and
[1:53:05]
scoreboards and, and you put
[1:53:07]
their logo on there and and
[1:53:09]
maybe they'll help fund some of
[1:53:12]
these lights and scoreboards
[1:53:14]
and bleachers.
[1:53:15]
>> MISS Hixon.
[1:53:17]
>> Thank you. I just have a
[1:53:19]
question to, I guess doctor
[1:53:22]
Wanza. So we we added some
[1:53:24]
schools today, six of them, but
[1:53:27]
there's a process. So I don't
[1:53:28]
I'm a little concerned to say
[1:53:30]
they'll be in year five. If you
[1:53:32]
go through the process and you
[1:53:34]
find that they should be maybe
[1:53:37]
in your three or year four, I
[1:53:38]
don't want to limit us to
[1:53:40]
saying because they came on the
[1:53:41]
list late, they're going to be
[1:53:43]
in year five. So can you just
[1:53:45]
clarify. Or we would still go
[1:53:47]
in the.
[1:53:49]
>> So we would still go and
[1:53:50]
look in the priority, look in
[1:53:51]
the criteria, all the things
[1:53:55]
that we use. But you know,
[1:53:57]
we'll we'll give an example.
[1:53:59]
Western Western was initially
[1:54:02]
slated for year four. We are
[1:54:03]
now looking at Western probably
[1:54:06]
needs to come up to this year
[1:54:08]
because when the. When the
[1:54:10]
showcase occurred and the
[1:54:12]
schools came down to Scout, we
[1:54:16]
had to move Western's game to
[1:54:21]
MacArthur. B I'm sorry to. West
[1:54:23]
Broward played at. Okay. Well,
[1:54:25]
we had to we had to move
[1:54:26]
Western's game to either
[1:54:28]
Miramar. MacArthur because the
[1:54:30]
schools that were playing did
[1:54:32]
not want to put their athletes
[1:54:34]
on the field because of the
[1:54:36]
conditions of the field. Right.
[1:54:38]
So that's the first thing. The
[1:54:40]
second thing is, is, is if we
[1:54:42]
are talking about, you know,
[1:54:43]
adding lighting and adding all
[1:54:46]
of those, those things come
[1:54:48]
with, we now got to upgrade
[1:54:49]
electricity. It's more than
[1:54:51]
just go out there, as you all
[1:54:52]
know, and just add some lights.
[1:54:54]
So what we don't want to do is
[1:54:57]
hold up a school that's ready
[1:55:00]
to go, because we are waiting
[1:55:02]
for other things that have to
[1:55:04]
happen to make that that
[1:55:05]
complex complete.
[1:55:07]
>> Right? No, I understand that.
[1:55:09]
I just also don't want to limit
[1:55:11]
us though. If you find in the
[1:55:12]
process that it makes sense,
[1:55:15]
let's say to to because
[1:55:16]
Hollywood Hills won't need the
[1:55:18]
lights and they go earlier. I
[1:55:19]
just want to make sure we're
[1:55:21]
not saying because you got on
[1:55:23]
the list late, you're last.
[1:55:25]
That's all I'm trying to say to
[1:55:27]
that. So if you could just
[1:55:28]
verify that that's.
[1:55:30]
>> We, we, we evaluate year by
[1:55:32]
year. And I can guarantee you
[1:55:33]
every high school principal is
[1:55:35]
listening to this conversation,
[1:55:36]
trying to figure out where am I
[1:55:37]
going to be on the.
[1:55:39]
>> List, right. And I know
[1:55:40]
every year it MAY be adjusted
[1:55:42]
based on things that are
[1:55:43]
happening, like you just said
[1:55:44]
about Western. So I just want
[1:55:46]
everyone to be clear, because
[1:55:47]
they were last on the list,
[1:55:48]
doesn't mean they'll
[1:55:50]
necessarily be last.
[1:55:51]
>> Well, so the reason why I
[1:55:53]
said it would complete your
[1:55:54]
five is that would then give us
[1:55:56]
the complete number of schools
[1:55:57]
done, and then it would truly
[1:56:00]
be a five year project, a five
[1:56:02]
year project that the board
[1:56:06]
invested in for this purpose.
[1:56:07]
>> DR. Holness thank you, MADAM
[1:56:10]
Chair. So I know board member
[1:56:12]
Thompson, you were concerned
[1:56:14]
about Pembroke Pines and West
[1:56:18]
Broward for monarch. That's
[1:56:20]
Coconut Creek, right? Is there
[1:56:21]
is there any concern with the
[1:56:22]
city of Coconut Creek that they
[1:56:24]
would not engage in a
[1:56:27]
partnership with us to to fund
[1:56:29]
the lighting for monarch?
[1:56:30]
>> I can't speak for the city.
[1:56:32]
We would have to have
[1:56:34]
conversations with them to get
[1:56:37]
their potential support or
[1:56:38]
understanding of what they
[1:56:40]
can't support at this time.
[1:56:42]
>> Okay. But is there any, any
[1:56:44]
because I know for West Broward,
[1:56:46]
there's concern that they they
[1:56:48]
will not. Is that the same for
[1:56:49]
monarch or why are we why we
[1:56:54]
did not exclude.
[1:56:56]
>> Reached out or reached out?
[1:56:56]
Yeah.
[1:56:59]
>> Okay. So if. I think board
[1:57:01]
member Rupert wanted MADAM
[1:57:03]
Chair, I. Okay.
[1:57:05]
>> MISS Rupert.
[1:57:06]
>> Thank you. I'm so sorry to
[1:57:08]
speak over you.
[1:57:09]
>> DR. Holness no, you're fine.
[1:57:12]
>> The answer is Coconut Creek
[1:57:14]
would be more than happy to
[1:57:16]
partner with us. I don't know
[1:57:18]
as to what or how much, but
[1:57:20]
this is something that they've
[1:57:22]
they've worked on for years and
[1:57:24]
years and years. So I would
[1:57:25]
certainly say that they'd be
[1:57:26]
willing to sit down at the
[1:57:28]
table. However, I would not
[1:57:31]
want to remove them from the
[1:57:35]
list because that would just be
[1:57:37]
crazy. I would rather they
[1:57:39]
stayed in the list. And if if
[1:57:41]
the city of Coconut Creek
[1:57:42]
decides that they would have
[1:57:44]
the money, etc. They have the
[1:57:45]
ability, they have a sponsor,
[1:57:47]
whatever it MAY be, maybe the
[1:57:52]
casino, I don't know. So those
[1:57:54]
opportunities could be there,
[1:57:56]
but okay, I would rather we
[1:57:58]
wait. We actually do not wait
[1:58:00]
for that, that we actually keep
[1:58:02]
them on the list and vote for
[1:58:02]
that tonight.
[1:58:03]
>> I understand. Thank you.
[1:58:05]
Board member Rupert. So, MADAM
[1:58:09]
Chair, if we're going to keep
[1:58:10]
monarch on the list and we have
[1:58:12]
not yet spoken to Coconut Creek,
[1:58:15]
can we have if we vote to do it,
[1:58:19]
can we not proceed with
[1:58:21]
spending money for monarch
[1:58:24]
until we have a conversation?
[1:58:24]
Doctor Hepburn, until you have
[1:58:26]
a conversation with Coconut
[1:58:28]
Creek to see if they would be
[1:58:31]
willing to fund part or all of
[1:58:32]
the lighting for that high
[1:58:34]
school.
[1:58:36]
>> Yes. Even if you put on a
[1:58:38]
list and they say, yes, we can
[1:58:39]
fund, you can come back and
[1:58:41]
amend the d, e, f, p and and
[1:58:42]
move.
[1:58:43]
>> I understand so so I'm going
[1:58:45]
to vote to keep it on the list,
[1:58:47]
but I, I don't want us to start
[1:58:49]
spending money. And when we
[1:58:50]
could get a the city to, you
[1:58:52]
know, be in a partnership with
[1:58:54]
us and, and, and fund it. So
[1:58:56]
would, would that be the
[1:58:56]
understanding?
[1:58:57]
>> That's my understanding.
[1:59:01]
>> Okay, MADAM Chair, I'm done.
[1:59:02]
>> MISS Bulman.
[1:59:04]
>> I would like to keep
[1:59:05]
Hollywood Hills on the list too.
[1:59:07]
I don't, but I guess I'm. We
[1:59:09]
could bring it back or how
[1:59:11]
what's the the mechanism for
[1:59:11]
this.
[1:59:13]
>> No. Then it.
[1:59:14]
>> Reverts back to the original.
[1:59:15]
>> Yeah. We're voting on.
[1:59:17]
>> Oh I gotcha. Okay. Yeah.
[1:59:18]
Thank you.
[1:59:19]
>> All right. All in favor of
[1:59:20]
the amendment say aye.
[1:59:21]
>> Aye.
[1:59:24]
>> All opposed? Say no. Roll
[1:59:25]
call please.
[1:59:26]
>> Amendment chair before we
[1:59:26]
vote.
[1:59:29]
>> It was to remove Hollywood
[1:59:32]
Hills and Taravella from the
[1:59:33]
list.
[1:59:35]
>> And what schools would be
[1:59:39]
remaining. Thank you.
[1:59:41]
>> Roll call on the amendments.
[1:59:43]
Board member Cervera not on the
[1:59:44]
line. Hixon.
[1:59:45]
>> Yes.
[1:59:46]
>> Holness.
[1:59:48]
>> Yes.
[1:59:48]
>> Leonardi.
[1:59:49]
>> No.
[1:59:51]
>> Rupert.
[1:59:52]
>> Yes.
[1:59:54]
>> Thompson. No. Zeman.
[1:59:55]
>> No.
[1:59:56]
>> Alhadeff.
[1:59:57]
>> No.
[1:59:58]
>> Bulman.
[2:00:00]
>> No.
[2:00:04]
>> Motion passed 5453. Sorry.
[2:00:06]
Oh, sorry. Motion failed. Five
[2:00:07]
three. Sorry.
[2:00:08]
>> Thank you.
[2:00:10]
>> All right, we are back to
[2:00:14]
the motion. DR. Zeman.
[2:00:16]
>> I was just going to offer a
[2:00:18]
quick amendment that would
[2:00:20]
identify each of these light
[2:00:23]
systems to be $2 million, and I
[2:00:24]
would place them in the year's
[2:00:27]
fy 28 and 29. So that that's
[2:00:29]
year four and five of it. But
[2:00:31]
we have room to amend the d, f,
[2:00:32]
p later. So the motion, the
[2:00:36]
amendment would be to monetize
[2:00:38]
the light systems at 2 million
[2:00:40]
each and place them in fy 28
[2:00:41]
and fy 29.
[2:00:43]
>> Second motion made by DR.
[2:00:44]
Zeman. Seconded by MRS.
[2:00:45]
Alhadeff. Public comment on the
[2:00:47]
motion board member comment.
[2:00:49]
MISS Thompson.
[2:00:51]
>> Does that correspond to when
[2:00:52]
they're probably getting turf
[2:00:57]
fields?
[2:01:00]
>> So we look annually at the
[2:01:01]
list to determine which schools
[2:01:04]
are going to receive a field in
[2:01:05]
which year. So I can't say it
[2:01:07]
with all definitive, you know,
[2:01:11]
that it's going to be the year
[2:01:12]
that they actually get the
[2:01:15]
field. So that is why initially
[2:01:17]
I made the comment around when
[2:01:19]
you talk about the field and
[2:01:20]
the other things that have to
[2:01:24]
be added, it, there's more of a
[2:01:26]
compelling argument to make
[2:01:27]
sure that everything that is
[2:01:30]
done is done so that when the
[2:01:31]
field is laid, then they're
[2:01:32]
ready to play.
[2:01:33]
>> That would be my next
[2:01:35]
question, because I'm assuming
[2:01:38]
the polls we have to rip up
[2:01:38]
grass.
[2:01:39]
>> So yeah.
[2:01:40]
>> I'm pretty sure that's how
[2:01:42]
you put a poll in is you have
[2:01:44]
to make. It's not a. It's it
[2:01:46]
has because of hurricane
[2:01:47]
requirements. It has to be in
[2:01:50]
the ground like ten feet, I
[2:01:53]
believe. So I think it needs I
[2:01:57]
know stuff. So I think it I'm
[2:01:58]
I'm in agreement with the 2
[2:02:00]
million. I just think it needs
[2:02:01]
to correspond with the turf
[2:02:04]
field just so we don't have to
[2:02:07]
redo anything.
[2:02:09]
>> Next year and year out.
[2:02:11]
Right now when we cut synthetic
[2:02:11]
turf.
[2:02:12]
>> DR. Zeman. Yeah.
[2:02:13]
>> Thank you. If we started
[2:02:14]
synthetic turf field at either
[2:02:16]
of these two sites, that means
[2:02:17]
next year we'd have 2 million
[2:02:19]
to put in the lights and then
[2:02:21]
the year after. So it just it
[2:02:22]
avoids the 10% fund balance
[2:02:24]
that we have for this year. We
[2:02:26]
got to keep it at 50 million
[2:02:27]
and put it in the next two
[2:02:29]
years. It was available at the
[2:02:30]
price. That's approximately
[2:02:31]
what the market price is for
[2:02:33]
lights. So it gives us the
[2:02:35]
greatest amount of flexibility.
[2:02:38]
>> Hixon DR. Zeman would you
[2:02:41]
consider to to MISS Thompson's
[2:02:42]
point, instead of putting a
[2:02:44]
fiscal year, say, to be
[2:02:45]
installed concurrently with the
[2:02:48]
turf fields?
[2:02:49]
>> I would love to accept a
[2:02:51]
budget as a spreadsheet. It's
[2:02:53]
got to have a category and a
[2:02:55]
year. You can't, you can't, you
[2:02:58]
cannot and you cannot pass a
[2:02:59]
motion about a budget that
[2:03:01]
doesn't have a monetization and
[2:03:04]
a year and a category, because
[2:03:05]
our budget staff cannot put it
[2:03:07]
into the spreadsheet that way.
[2:03:08]
>> But we did that for the
[2:03:10]
second motion to add the turf
[2:03:12]
fields. There was no year for
[2:03:12]
that.
[2:03:13]
>> That has to have a year and
[2:03:15]
a dollar amount, or it cannot
[2:03:16]
get in the budget. So if we
[2:03:19]
pass something that said, we
[2:03:21]
want a thing and we don't have
[2:03:23]
a price and a year, that's a I
[2:03:25]
forget the Robert's rules, but
[2:03:27]
it's an unspecified motion
[2:03:28]
because it you're you're asking
[2:03:30]
to fit a round object into a
[2:03:31]
square hole, and it's got to
[2:03:33]
fit in a square hole.
[2:03:34]
>> MISS Dupree, because we, we
[2:03:36]
literally just passed a motion
[2:03:36]
like that.
[2:03:41]
>> I have to look that up.
[2:03:42]
>> That would be my suggestion
[2:03:44]
to make sure that they go in
[2:03:47]
together at the same time.
[2:03:48]
>> Again, this this is the
[2:03:50]
fastest we could ever possibly
[2:03:51]
feasibly put lights into a high
[2:03:53]
school field. And so we parked
[2:03:55]
it in the year of 28 and 29, so
[2:03:57]
that it won't influence any
[2:03:59]
delay in doing it. So that's
[2:04:01]
why I made the motion the way
[2:04:02]
it is. I we always can come
[2:04:04]
back and amendment. I offered
[2:04:05]
it as a quick amendment because
[2:04:07]
I thought it might be. But it's
[2:04:09]
just a way to park the money in
[2:04:09]
a spreadsheet.
[2:04:10]
>> Doctor Hepburn.
[2:04:12]
>> I was going to say, I think
[2:04:14]
there's more that the staff has
[2:04:15]
to complete as well. We need to
[2:04:17]
talk to potential vendors and
[2:04:18]
find out what are the steps
[2:04:20]
that need to be taken to
[2:04:21]
install the lights. Do they
[2:04:23]
need to bring a crane on the
[2:04:24]
football field, which initially
[2:04:27]
rips up the entire field to
[2:04:28]
position the lights? So I think
[2:04:30]
there's a lot of things that we
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need to understand. So I like
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the time frame of of, you know,
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making sure the money is parked
[2:04:36]
at a certain time out. So it
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gives staff enough time because
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this is my recollection as, as
[2:04:41]
a past high school principal, I,
[2:04:44]
we had to replace a light pole
[2:04:46]
for some issues. And the crane
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literally, you know, it's large
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and it rips up the whole entire
[2:04:51]
field. You have to redo the
[2:04:52]
whole entire football field. So
[2:04:56]
it MAY be lights first and then
[2:04:58]
football field after they've
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done putting in the lights. So
[2:05:01]
we just need to gain more
[2:05:04]
understanding from a vendor to,
[2:05:06]
to really know all the action
[2:05:08]
steps that need to take place.
[2:05:09]
>> Doctor Hepburn, do you feel
[2:05:11]
like based on DR. Zeman
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amendment, that it makes it
[2:05:14]
feasible and gives us the
[2:05:14]
flexibility.
[2:05:15]
>> That yes, I think it gives
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us the time to do our
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assessment.
[2:05:18]
>> Anyone else on the the
[2:05:20]
amendment all in favor of the
[2:05:21]
amendment say aye. Aye. All
[2:05:22]
opposed? Say no. Amendment
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passes unanimously. All right.
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Anyone else on the defp.
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>> We have to pass.
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>> a motion. Oh, sorry. Going
[2:05:33]
back to the main motion. Thank
[2:05:35]
you. All in favor of the motion
[2:05:36]
as amended, say I all opposed.
[2:05:38]
Say no. Motion passes as
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amended unanimously. Anyone
[2:05:46]
se on the defp. All r right.
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All in favor, let me make sure
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I don't have to. All right. So
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all in favor of item one, as
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amended, say aye. All opposed?
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Say no. The ayes have it to
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approve item one this. Oh,
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before I adjourn the meeting,
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DR. Holness requested to speak
[2:06:06]
so he could make a motion
[2:06:06]
potentially.
[2:06:09]
>> Okay. Thank you, MADAM Chair.
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I just have a question for
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general counsel. General
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counsel. Are you MISS Bruno?
[2:06:18]
Are you aware of any recent
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emergent concerns regarding
[2:06:22]
construction program
[2:06:27]
solicitations?
[2:06:29]
>> I'm aware of of some
[2:06:31]
questions that have been raised.
[2:06:32]
And we are looking at legal
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compliance.
[2:06:36]
>> Okay. So, MADAM Chair, I'd
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like to make a motion to direct
[2:06:43]
general counsel to do a an
[2:06:45]
in-depth review of all
[2:06:46]
solicitations related to
[2:06:49]
construction program and make
[2:06:51]
recommendation to amend, if
[2:06:54]
necessary, to ensure we are in
[2:06:55]
full compliance with any state
[2:06:59]
or federal laws.
[2:07:00]
>> Motion made by DR. Holness.
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Seconded by MISS Hixon. Public
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comment on the Motion Board
[2:07:07]
member discussion.
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>> DR. Zeman Doctor Hepburn, if
[2:07:13]
you were made aware of these
[2:07:18]
things. If somebody had some
[2:07:20]
issues with our construction
[2:07:21]
solicitations and their
[2:07:22]
compliance with state or
[2:07:28]
federal law, would you. Would
[2:07:30]
you normally sit down with the
[2:07:32]
general counsel and decide
[2:07:33]
between your staff and her
[2:07:34]
staff, because you have
[2:07:35]
procurement?
[2:07:35]
>> Yep.
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>> That's correct. Has the law.
[2:07:38]
But would you normally
[2:07:39]
construct an investigative team
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that would match the
[2:07:42]
insinuations that were made.
[2:07:43]
>> Correct, and the general
[2:07:45]
counsel and her team and the
[2:07:46]
procurement team are already
[2:07:47]
working in tandem. So if
[2:07:49]
there's issues or things that
[2:07:50]
are identified, they correct
[2:07:53]
them and make an amendment,
[2:07:56]
amend the actual solicitation.
[2:07:57]
So all a lot of that stuff is
[2:08:00]
already already has happened
[2:08:01]
and continues to happen.
[2:08:05]
>> Terrific. I guess I just
[2:08:06]
have to ask this, is this
[2:08:08]
motion necessary or is this
[2:08:09]
something that you and the
[2:08:11]
general counsel and potentially
[2:08:13]
even the chief Auditor would
[2:08:14]
collaborate on and figure out
[2:08:15]
the right steps in order to
[2:08:17]
make sure that we are
[2:08:19]
responding to any written
[2:08:20]
complaints that are made, not
[2:08:21]
verbal, you know, correct
[2:08:23]
social media post, but like a
[2:08:24]
written letter that said, you
[2:08:27]
know, we think solicitations
[2:08:29]
MAY not be compliant. Does this
[2:08:31]
motion change anything or.
[2:08:32]
Would you already take action?
[2:08:33]
>> It doesn't change anything.
[2:08:34]
We're already taking those
[2:08:36]
action, be it on our own
[2:08:37]
reviews and identifying any
[2:08:39]
gaps based on our own reviews
[2:08:40]
or any concerns that come our
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way.
[2:08:42]
>> Terrific. And I know we're
[2:08:44]
in assessment season for for
[2:08:46]
you, as it turns out, and I
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would expect exactly what you
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said, which is if someone
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brings you confirmed enough
[2:08:52]
suspicions about a solicitation
[2:08:53]
that you would convene the
[2:08:55]
right group and you would take
[2:08:56]
immediate action and you'd
[2:08:57]
report back to the board as
[2:08:59]
soon as you can about what you.
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Correct. Thank you. Chair.
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>> Thank you, MISS Bulman.
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>> This is just to the to the
[2:09:10]
motion. Is that a motion?
[2:09:11]
Solicitation we're talking
[2:09:13]
about currently current
[2:09:14]
outstanding solicitation, I
[2:09:18]
think just yeah. Recent pile of
[2:09:20]
of research for MR. Bruno.
[2:09:22]
Smaller than all solicitations.
[2:09:25]
>> Okay. So this motion is
[2:09:27]
about recent solicitations
[2:09:29]
related to the construction
[2:09:31]
program for the general counsel
[2:09:33]
to do an in-depth review and
[2:09:35]
make recommendation to amend
[2:09:38]
language, if necessary, to the
[2:09:39]
superintendent to ensure that
[2:09:41]
we, as a board and as a
[2:09:43]
district, are in full
[2:09:45]
compliance with any state or
[2:09:48]
federal laws. And I understand
[2:09:49]
that there MAY be some
[2:09:51]
redundancy as expressed by
[2:09:52]
Doctor Hepburn, but I think
[2:09:55]
this is an added measure that
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this board is ensuring that we
[2:10:00]
are we are compliance with the
[2:10:00]
law.
[2:10:01]
>> Yeah.
[2:10:04]
>> I was thinking if we had a
[2:10:07]
time frame. Is there.
[2:10:08]
>> a.
[2:10:10]
>> Is there a time for to add
[2:10:12]
the time frame, right. Like
[2:10:12]
from.
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>> What does.
[2:10:13]
>> Recent mean?
[2:10:14]
>> Yeah.
[2:10:16]
>> Those that are currently
[2:10:18]
pending are in process, correct?
[2:10:20]
>> Yeah. Okay. So if we just
[2:10:21]
add that then okay.
[2:10:25]
>> Yeah.
[2:10:27]
>> Anyone else? So did you
[2:10:29]
amend your motion doctor? Yes.
[2:10:30]
Did you make an amendment to
[2:10:32]
his motion.
[2:10:34]
>> The out the pending
[2:10:36]
solicitations.
[2:10:37]
>> Yes. It's accepted.
[2:10:38]
>> MADAM General Counsel.
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>> Is that.
[2:10:40]
>> Does she need to make a
[2:10:41]
formal amendment?
[2:10:42]
>> Let's just make it simple
[2:10:44]
and do a substitute motion. So
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if you can restate your motion
[2:10:47]
with the language that's been
[2:10:48]
suggested.
[2:10:49]
>> Okay. Motion to direct
[2:10:50]
general counsel to do an
[2:10:54]
in-depth review of recent and
[2:10:56]
pending solicitations related
[2:10:58]
to the construction program,
[2:10:59]
and make recommendations to
[2:11:00]
amend language, if necessary,
[2:11:02]
to the superintendent to ensure
[2:11:04]
that we are in full compliance
[2:11:07]
with any state or federal laws.
[2:11:07]
>> Second.
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>> So substitute motion was
[2:11:12]
seconded by MISS Rupert. I have
[2:11:14]
a question for, I guess, MADAM
[2:11:16]
General Counsel and Doctor
[2:11:19]
Hepburn, if we pass this motion,
[2:11:26]
will this delay. The. Process
[2:11:28]
we have going forward right now?
[2:11:30]
>> No, it doesn't delay. We're
[2:11:32]
already doing pretty much
[2:11:34]
everything that's in the motion.
[2:11:36]
>> MADAM General Counsel.
[2:11:37]
>> I would agree. If there's
[2:11:40]
any agendas that need to be had,
[2:11:42]
we will do that and take any
[2:11:43]
appropriate steps. As Doctor
[2:11:45]
Hepburn indicated, we are
[2:11:47]
already working closely with
[2:11:47]
procurement.
[2:11:49]
>> Okay. Anyone else on the
[2:11:51]
substitute motion? All in favor
[2:11:52]
of the substitute motion, say
[2:11:53]
aye.
[2:11:53]
>> Aye.
[2:11:57]
>> All opposed? Say no. No
[2:11:58]
substitute motion passes with
[2:12:00]
one dissenting vote from DR.
[2:12:01]
Zeman.
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>> MADAM Chair, I have one more
[2:12:04]
thing. Go ahead. It's not a
[2:12:08]
motion. It's just. Missus. MISS
[2:12:12]
Bruno, are you able to to bring.
[2:12:13]
I know you're bringing policies
[2:12:15]
to us for review. Are you able
[2:12:18]
to bring procurement policies
[2:12:19]
for review with your next batch
[2:12:20]
of policies?
[2:12:22]
>> Yes, that is the plan. We'll
[2:12:24]
be bringing all of the
[2:12:25]
procurement purchasing policies
[2:12:27]
for our next batch. It will go
[2:12:29]
through the regular rule
[2:12:30]
development, rule making
[2:12:31]
process and hopefully adopted
[2:12:32]
in OCTOBER.
[2:12:33]
>> Okay, great. Thank you,
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MADAM Chair.
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>> Anyone else? The scheduled
[2:12:39]
order of business for the
[2:12:40]
Special School Board meeting of
[2:12:41]
the School Board of Broward
[2:12:42]
County, Florida, has been
[2:12:43]
completed. Seeing no objections,
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I will now adjourn the special
[2:13:01]
school board meeting.