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[0:22] Okay, welcome everyone to uh September 8th uh city council meeting. September

[0:26] 8th on a Tuesday because yesterday was Labor Day and so uh here we are today on

[0:31] a Tuesday and I appreciate that. I know we've got a special city council meeting

[0:35] tomorrow night as well and uh so a lot of things going on this week. I will

[0:40] start out with the roll call please Denise.

[0:51] » We have a quorum. Everyone's present. >> Okay. Very good. And with that, uh,

[0:55] Grant Atkinson, uh, thank you for being here. And if you want to come up and

[0:59] give us the invocation, appreciate that. We'll follow up with the pledge of

[1:02] allegiance.

[1:07] All right, let's bow together. Honor our creator. Heavenly Father, we u it's hard

[1:12] to bow our hearts and our heads without just thanking you. Thank you for a good

[1:16] day. Thank you for the rain and the regularity of it, how often we've gotten

[1:20] it. Thank you for that. Thank you for our city. I thank you for the heritage

[1:24] and the history. How excit how much joy that is to look through those for the

[1:29] years. And I thank you for our future. And I thank you for this council, their

[1:34] concern, their time, their efforts that they put in for our future. And I pray

[1:39] you'd guide them blessing this meeting and all the ones to come in Jesus name.

[1:43] Amen. >> Thank you, sir. Pledge of allegiance. I

[1:47] aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it

[1:53] stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

[2:01] » Not specifically on the agenda, but I had uh talked before and it just didn't

[2:04] make it on there about a proclamation and I'd like to go ahead and read that

[2:09] uh if I may. And uh this is regarding uh the 25th anniversary of uh September

[2:14] 11th, 2001. And um I'll go ahead and read it. So a proclamation, Patriot Day

[2:20] and National Day of Service and Remembrance. 25th anniversary of

[2:23] September 11th, 2001. Whereas on the morning of September 11th, 2001,

[2:28] coordinated terrorist attacks were carried out against the United States at

[2:31] the World Trade Center in New York at the Pentagon in Virginia and aboard

[2:35] United Flight 93, which came down in a field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania. And

[2:40] whereas 2,977 people were killed that day and many

[2:44] more have died since from illnesses connected to attacks and the recovery of

[2:49] work uh the recovery work that followed. And whereas 343 firefighters and more

[2:55] than 70 law enforcement officers were among those lost having gone toward the

[3:00] danger while others were coming out. And whereas the passengers of and crew of

[3:05] flight 93 knowing what had already happened this morning or that morning

[3:11] attack, excuse me, acted to prevent the aircraft from reaching its target and

[3:15] gave their lives in doing it. And whereas in the days that followed,

[3:18] Americans of every description stood with one another, and this country was

[3:22] reminded what it is capable of when it decided to be. And whereas 25 years have

[3:27] now passed, and a generation of Americans has come of age with no memory

[3:32] of that morning, which makes the telling of it a duty rather than a habit. And

[3:36] whereas the firefighters, police officers, dispatchers, and emergency

[3:40] medical personnel who serve Canyon City do the same work in our own community

[3:44] and are owed the same regard. And whereas the public law uh 107-89,

[3:51] the Congress of the United States designated September 11th as Patriot Day

[3:55] to be observed with the flag of the United States displayed at half staff

[3:59] and with a moment of silence. Now therefore, I Philon, mayor of city of

[4:03] Canyon City, Colorado, do hereby proclaim Friday, September 11th, 2026 as

[4:08] Patriot Day and National Day of Service and Remembrance in the City of Canyon

[4:12] City. And I call upon all citizens to display the flag of the United States at

[4:16] half staff to observe a moment of silence and to honor those who were lost

[4:22] and those who serve us still. We do not forget them.

[4:27] Thank you. the proclamation. Okay. Uh

[4:33] we are next going to deal with those who are uh interested in speaking to the

[4:37] council. And right now I only have one name and that's Jessica Hughes. And

[4:41] Jessica, you're welcome to come on forward and present to the council.

[4:46] Thank you for coming.

[4:50] » Hello. I'm just going to read you uh an

[4:54] introduction to it and then I'll pass this off to you guys to go through it

[4:57] later on. Um I've been looking into the possibility of bringing a Thomas Dambo

[5:01] troll into Canyon and if you don't know who that is, he he builds giant troll

[5:06] troll sculptures out of recycled. Um we have one in Breenidge and one in Victor.

[5:12] Uh I reached out to his team and received some feedback about what we

[5:16] needed to do to apply for a future project. And one of the requirements to

[5:19] have a troll, um, it must have an official host organization and it can't

[5:24] be sponsored by an individual. Um, which is why I'm bringing it to you guys. Uh,

[5:29] I've included the information they've provided along with the correspondence

[5:32] of a semi semi pre-filled application uh, in this pre presentation if anyone

[5:38] like to review it. The project cost for the troll project according to Dambo's

[5:42] team is currently between approximately 350,000 and $580,000

[5:47] depending on the scope of installation. And I know that sounds like a

[5:50] significant investment. Uh so I just wanted to share that I spoke with the

[5:54] Royal Gorge Bridge and they already have plans in their new contract for a troll

[5:58] and some additional figures that would be placed inside the park. um they have

[6:02] the materials and in 2029 it will be their 100th anniversary of the gorge and

[6:08] that's an achievable achievable time frame to have the troll completed for a

[6:12] celebration. Um I've looked at several possible locations and the one that

[6:16] stood out the most right now is right outside the gorge. Uh they'll be fixing

[6:20] the trolley train as well and my idea is to put the troll in the center of it

[6:24] with a crossing and trail to it. Um, people could walk or ride around it and

[6:29] I think it's best put there because the gorge has available in excess parking,

[6:32] it would remain free for the public to visit and would still be accessible to

[6:36] view for those with mobility limitations. Um, I do believe Canyon

[6:40] would be a strong candidate for this consideration. And while currently

[6:44] Colorado has two Thomas Dambo trolls, Denmark alone has over 50 of them,

[6:48] showing that these projects are beloved attractions and are not shy from being

[6:52] close to one another. And I am simply asking that we explore this opportunity.

[6:56] Uh submit a form to Dambo's team for consideration. A project like this one

[7:00] could create a new landmark for Canyon, encourage tourism, support local

[7:03] business, and give families and visitors another reason to visit.

[7:07] And I have some pictures and I'm not going to read the whole thing. Um I'll

[7:12] let you guys read it, but I kind of took their

[7:16] form and kind of filled it out. there's specific things that uh they were

[7:21] looking for for us to put in there. Um and Miss Olive, the one that I've been

[7:26] talking to, uh she's she's looking forward to seeing an application from us

[7:31] if we can find a host. >> Okay, very good. Thank you. Uh just a

[7:35] couple questions. Um one, when is the deadline that you need to uh submit

[7:38] that? >> Whenever. It it doesn't have a deadline.

[7:41] » Okay. There's no deadline. Yeah. And um would you be willing to come before the

[7:45] economic development committee and present this more and we can figure out

[7:48] where the city wants to go with it because you talked about tourism and a

[7:51] lot of other issues that uh would certainly be good for the economics of

[7:54] our city uh to pursue something like this.

[7:57] » Yeah. >> Okay. Uh unless somebody else has

[8:00] another uh offer as far as where she might go, but I'd like to see it go to

[8:03] economic development at least. >> I think it I'm more than happy to have

[8:06] it go there. I think it also falls under quality of life for the people who live

[8:09] here, but I'm very happy to have it go to economic development.

[8:13] I agree with you. It uh serves both of those purposes. Uh we'll start out with

[8:17] economic development and uh you'll probably end up before quality of life

[8:20] as well. >> Okay,

[8:22] » Jessica, you got vision. Thank you. >> Oh, thank you. Do Do you want a copy or

[8:25] do you want me to just wait until >> Yeah, absolutely. Uh if you can get them

[8:27] over to the clerk and uh we'll take care of them from there.

[8:30] » Okay.

[8:34] » Okay. She'll take care of them. >> Okay. That's the only person that I've

[8:40] got for um dealing with uh those who wish to speak before the council. I'm

[8:45] going to turn to the council members and board updates. And uh why don't we start

[8:48] off with council member Schmisser as far as your committee.

[8:52] » Sure. Happy to. Um so just a couple of updates based on our meeting last week.

[8:58] Um, we do have a special city council meeting tomorrow at 6 PM or whenever the

[9:05] urban renewal authority meeting ends to deal specifically with Clock Tower

[9:09] Plaza. Just plugging that again. Um, one of our big first initiatives in the

[9:15] public safety quality of life committee has been the Mon Plaza natural play

[9:19] structure. Um, and Manny the mammoth on Mon um is being ordered and the

[9:24] estimated arrival is in the next 12 to 14 weeks. So, we're hopeful that by the

[9:28] end of the year, we'll have the the new place structure beginning to to take

[9:34] shape um there in Mon Plaza. For folks who are interested in the library

[9:38] foundation's campaign around that and supporting our library more generally on

[9:44] September 11th, which is this Friday, um at 4 p.m. there they will have a

[9:50] fundraiser and music on Mon and kind of getting folks excited about this new um

[9:56] natural place structure in Mon Plaza. Uh there will be a moment of silence for

[10:01] the 25th anniversary of September 11th, followed by uh local band and just a a

[10:06] good free time to be had by all. So encourage folks to come down to Mon

[10:10] Plaza Friday between 4 to 7:00 p.m. Um we also took a field trip over to the

[10:17] new restrooms at at Florence's Pioneer Park um to take a look at what they have

[10:22] done well there and what we may want to recommend for future public restrooms

[10:26] here in Canyon City. Um and we the committee most significantly probably

[10:32] voted um to send a draft um ebike and emoto ordinance um to city council upon

[10:42] incorporation of edits from the committee and review by our attorneys.

[10:47] So those edits that um committee members have sent over have been incorporated.

[10:51] It's going back to city staff for one more deep dive look um as well as over

[10:56] to our attorneys for their input and feedback. We've had a preliminary

[11:01] conversation with the school district um superintendent about partnering on uh

[11:07] public engagement and a public education campaign around um what is legal uh here

[11:13] in the state of Colorado and um they are looking forward to partnering with us on

[11:18] that. So, more to come on next steps. Um, and then lastly, we have um our next

[11:28] public safety quality of life committee meeting is scheduled for October 7th at

[11:33] 400 PM here at city hall. Thanks. >> You're welcome. And thank you. And uh

[11:38] let's just talk about the the e motorcycles just for a second, a little

[11:41] longer if we can as far as coming out of there. So, uh, the police chief was

[11:45] there and, uh, there are things that are illegal already under the laws of the

[11:50] state of Colorado and, uh, we're looking at some things, uh, specifically for,

[11:55] uh, Canyon City. Correct. >> Yes. So, currently in Canyon City, there

[11:59] are some things that are illegal, like riding class one and class 2 ebikes on

[12:04] the Riverwalk. Um, so, one of the things that this ordinance would do is take

[12:09] away that restriction. a lot of people are already riding ebikes and we want to

[12:13] make sure that we don't have regulations on the books that aren't being enforced.

[12:17] The other um aspect of this ordinance is it's looking at how do you ensure that

[12:23] once education is appropriately done around what the state of Colorado allows

[12:27] and doesn't allow that the police have the appropriate enforcement tools um to

[12:32] actually hold people accountable for those state laws um to ensure the public

[12:37] safety for the the kids in our community as well as pedestrians and um business

[12:42] owners that are facing a lot of challenges due to uh various types of e

[12:47] motos that are being written around town. So it does um it would give our

[12:52] law enforcement additional tools um things like making it uh eluding

[12:58] behavior, reckless driving, careless driving, and also parental

[13:02] responsibility for minors who are repeatedly found um using vehicles that

[13:08] they are not lawfully allowed to to operate.

[13:11] » Okay. So, if you're watching this at home or wherever, um this is something

[13:15] the council is taking up. Uh it's an important issue to a lot of people and

[13:19] uh I've certainly seen the wheelies down Main Street as well myself and uh so

[13:23] we're going to take that on. One other point that they might consider, Amy, is

[13:28] the fact that uh we're also looking at property uh that they might do this

[13:32] legally. If you want to expand on that. >> Sure. Absolutely. So, city staff have

[13:37] looked at a couple of different properties around town um that would

[13:41] that the city already owns and frankly where where some of this behavior is

[13:45] already taking place um to ensure that folks do have a place where they can

[13:50] recreate um with equipment that they own in a way that is safer and that is

[13:54] legal. One of the one of the pieces of the public education that we're looking

[13:58] forward to moving forward with is really engaging with some of the users of these

[14:03] vehicles so that we better understand would that meet their needs? Would it be

[14:07] used? Um and if not, what what is the gap? How do we ensure that folks have

[14:13] their needs met? Um and while also being safe and not causing quality of life and

[14:18] safety concerns for others. >> Yep. And I'm excited about that that

[14:21] we're not only looking at putting additional rules in that changes that

[14:26] behavior uh from a safety mechanism because we certainly don't want anyone

[14:29] hurt and certainly this the kids that are using this, but uh I'm excited that

[14:33] we're also looking at property that uh can uh be used in a safe way and uh I

[14:38] know we've got citizens who are out there looking at that and appreciate

[14:42] them doing so. >> Absolutely. Okay. I think just so folks

[14:45] know, the the property that the city staff um are looking at first is that uh

[14:51] that which is directly to the east of Canyon Exploratory School. Um it already

[14:56] has a natural ravine and already has features that a lot of folks enjoy um

[15:00] recreating on with these types of vehicles. One of the biggest challenges

[15:03] and a hurdle that will would have to be overcome is how do you uh lawfully and

[15:08] safely get the vehicles up to that space, right? So again, looking forward

[15:12] to the public education and public engagement to make sure that we

[15:15] understand um why those uh how how that space can best be used and where that

[15:21] space needs to be located to ensure that it meets those needs.

[15:23] » Okay. Thank you for taking extra time. Uh Council Member Tony, finance

[15:27] committee, finance, budget, and >> yeah, thank you. So our next meeting

[15:31] will be September uh 10th uh this Thursday, 3:45. Uh it'll

[15:38] be really all about the budget. uh if there's in any uh uh underspent budget

[15:44] this year, is there some critical infrastructure that could be used for?

[15:48] We'll be investigating that along with an update uh on the 2027 budget. Uh

[15:55] we'll also be uh exploring the possibility of uh retention and uh wages

[16:03] for our police department. So, invite everybody to come to that. Um and that

[16:09] that's about it for this this week. >> Okay. Thank you. Um next one, economic

[16:14] development committee met at 4:00 today and uh just a very quick update on that.

[16:18] Uh we looked at a policy issue that uh the council may consider uh dealing with

[16:23] sign ordinance that have been passed in the in the past and uh I won't get into

[16:27] too much detail on that. Just know that it's being looked at. I do want to

[16:31] remind everyone that uh we have a consultant that uh is looking at uh the

[16:36] functions of city government and uh I think all of us are behind that. I'm

[16:40] looking forward to that report coming out and um they've already met with a

[16:44] number of individuals when the consultant was in town including all the

[16:48] members of the the council and a lot of business people and I think that uh

[16:52] there's a survey that's been completed uh city administrator can add whatever

[16:56] he wants to but the survey has been completed as far as the draft of how

[17:00] it's going to be and I think that's going out uh shortly and as a result uh

[17:05] we should have that report back in a couple months and uh sooner the better

[17:09] but That's what we're looking at. And C or um city administrator, you're welcome

[17:13] to give any update on that you'd like, but uh that's an important economic

[17:17] development issue. >> Yeah, we received the link for the uh

[17:20] final survey today, so we'll be putting that out probably tomorrow.

[17:25] » Okay, very good. Thank you. Okay. Uh any other council members want to address

[17:30] any other topics?

[17:35] » Council member Reeves? >> Yeah, I want to address the committees.

[17:37] We never uh talked about that again. I would want to get that on the agenda for

[17:41] future to review the committees and the structure of those potentially change

[17:46] it. Do we need what what kind of

[17:49] conversation do we need to have about dates and stuff like that?

[17:53] » So, uh the city administrator and I have discussed uh that and uh there was uh a

[17:59] thought that uh >> recording in progress.

[18:02] » Great. So, everyone gets that. I don't know if you heard that at home, but it

[18:06] just said we're recording. So all good. Um we are talking about having some kind

[18:11] of uh retreatish kind of thing after the election and uh so we were thinking of

[18:17] putting it on that time frame of November uh at this point. One of the

[18:22] things that came out of it with uh when Amy was discussing this is having some

[18:26] kind of committee of the whole as well as the committees, but that is all

[18:30] subject to uh discussion. But uh having that on a a November time frame because

[18:35] there are committees that are active with budgets and everything else and

[18:39] that gets us uh it's only two months away and uh we could take it up at that

[18:43] time. Council member Reeves, >> aren't we going to just do the same

[18:47] thing in a couple months and be like, well, we have other stuff we have to do

[18:50] then and people are committed to it. I mean, I've been paying attention to the

[18:54] other committees. I'm sure other members have, too. We can consolidate this back

[18:58] into uh us dealing with a lot of these issues. Um, I'm finding that there's I'm

[19:04] having to do too much homework. I I most of what I'm finding out isn't even from

[19:08] the committee that I'm actually in. And uh spending hours doing not what this

[19:14] this committee structure promised to do. And I I clipped together some video if

[19:19] we need to pull it up of us talking about this at 6 months and reviewing

[19:23] this. And so I'd like to do it a lot sooner than November.

[19:27] » Okay. Right now, we're having a conversation about the timing as opposed

[19:30] to uh exactly what uh we're dealing with and your opinions are granted, but uh I

[19:36] think we need to talk about timing and when that can happen. And uh I'm not

[19:40] certain that uh with all the things we've got going, I've got a couple other

[19:43] issues that I want to bring up as well. Uh in fact, I'm going to bring them up

[19:46] right now. Um the uh based on that that I think there's uh an equal priority

[19:51] with that and I do see Sarah that you're online and we'll discuss that. Um, but

[19:56] we need to do an annual review on the city administrator and that's going to

[19:59] take some time. That goes into executive session of course and that is nothing to

[20:04] do with uh anything other than that is standard practice. I also believe that

[20:08] we should do a review of uh the attorneys. Uh that's something that uh

[20:13] would be practiced as well. And so those are two things on the agenda. We've got

[20:17] drain or um uh ditch issues that we have to deal with. There's just a lot before

[20:22] the council and it's a matter of when we can fit that all in. But I do believe

[20:25] that uh uh typically in August or September uh the city administrator is

[20:30] up for review. Uh and that's good for him and it's good for us. And so I want

[20:34] to get that on the agenda and again uh the attorneys as well. So just uh we do

[20:39] have a lot going on. That's why we are focused on November and uh specifically

[20:43] at a a meeting that would be a little longer. Council member Eaves, you're

[20:48] still up for speaking. Do you want to do that? Council member McCuller.

[20:51] » Uh thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um I also agree that we need to talk about the

[20:55] committees in a timely manner. Um I believe that it is important to how this

[21:02] body functions for us to have a good grasp on what the other committees are

[21:06] doing and be able to have conversations amongst ourselves as well. So I'm not

[21:11] going to commit myself to a time frame, but I do agree with council member

[21:15] Reeves that we need to make sure that this does not get lost in the shuffle.

[21:20] right now it's not going to get lost uh at this point. Um we are looking at

[21:24] November. If uh somebody wants to push forward uh before that, just know that

[21:29] uh there's a lot on our plate and I think we need to accomplish a few

[21:32] things. And so when the city administrator and I were talking, that's

[21:36] the time frame we were looking at. Uh again, I've got you still on there,

[21:41] Sarah. We um we're not taking them off correctly with Okay. Now, Council Member

[21:46] Schmer and then Council Member Denny. >> Thanks. Could I ask for a bit more

[21:50] clarity on the retreat agenda and focus? I agree with you that [snorts] it uh

[21:56] it's a conversation that we've had a couple of times. So, it's one that bears

[21:59] perhaps a lengthier discussion so that we can come to resolution and a way

[22:03] forward. So, I'd like to better understand what the intended structure

[22:07] of the retreat would be. um who would be coming, how long we would be discussing

[22:13] this, what other items would be on the agenda so that I can understand if it is

[22:18] likely to produce um a way forward on the committees out of that retreat.

[22:23] Thanks. >> Yep. I'm happy to discuss what I know

[22:26] and what I don't know which is right now it's preliminary discussion. We have

[22:29] simply talked about timing. city minister can add anything he wants to at

[22:33] this point but uh we he is uh aware of consultants specifically have dealt with

[22:38] uh cities and uh he is uh going to be uh bringing those forward um so those are

[22:45] the issues from a timing standpoint um we have an election year coming up uh

[22:49] five of us are up for election or at least five positions the mayor and four

[22:54] council members and we wanted to get this in prior to uh the burdens of an

[22:58] election and all those kind of things um because of just what's coming down the

[23:02] pike. And so November after an election uh made sense at least to me and I think

[23:07] uh I won't speak for the city administrator but uh from a timing

[23:10] standpoint we're past uh we'll know about the pool and we'll know about a

[23:14] lot of other stuff and that seemed like a good timing as far as uh content

[23:19] haven't got into it much other than it would be a good thing for the council to

[23:22] spend some time with one another. >> Thank you. Um I just because I saw some

[23:27] some looks of confusion. And I believe the mayor was referring to the 2027

[23:30] election is when city council seats would be up as opposed to to this.

[23:35] » Correct. >> Um so I want us to have enough time to

[23:39] discuss this. I'm a bit concerned just because the first retreat um I I didn't

[23:43] receive the notes or the action items or the doouts from it. So I'm I'm a little

[23:47] bit concerned that if that based on how the first one went that we may not um

[23:51] come to a conclusion on this topic that has been hanging out there for for quite

[23:56] a while now. um unless it really is the focus of say half of the day. Um so I

[24:02] wouldn't be opposed to having a a meeting of the whole specifically on

[24:06] this and no other agenda items to to just make sure that we do um move

[24:11] forward on it. >> Yeah. Uh there is um staff um I think

[24:16] position as far as the the particular uh committees as well and uh I've I've seen

[24:23] that I think the attorneys might have drafted something. I believe that um if

[24:29] you guys want to talk about it next week, we can have a special city council

[24:32] meeting, but uh you know my position, which is I'm in favor of citizens being

[24:35] involved just as much as possible. And uh that's um I think in November and

[24:42] letting them run out their course is a good thing. But if uh the council wants

[24:45] to meet next week or the following week or in October, uh we can do that.

[24:50] You're still on. Um Denise, I think you need to pull people off when they get

[24:54] done. I'm not certain how that works, but uh it just keeps people on. Council

[24:58] member Deni. >> Yeah, I just I think we need to meet

[25:02] within the next week or two and just have a discussion on this. I think

[25:05] you're hearing from four council members right now and I don't know if anybody

[25:09] else has views on this, but I think it'd be good just for us to have a discussion

[25:12] in within the next week or two. I think that'd be very good for all of us. Thank

[25:16] you. Uh is there anybody that uh has any

[25:21] other thoughts on that? Council member Tony.

[25:25] » Yeah, I think uh we we need to put some thought in this for sure, but there's a

[25:32] lot going on. You have the budget u among many other things and to do it

[25:38] next week. I don't think that's a timely. It's a knee-jerk reaction. I

[25:43] think let's plan it, do it right, and uh you know, that way we can set our goals

[25:49] for the for the upcoming year and all that at one time. Council

[25:55] member McCuller. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh, Council Member

[26:00] Tony, I hear what you're saying. Uh, I don't agree with the part about it being

[26:04] a knee-jerk situation because I don't think that Council Member Tony or

[26:08] Council Member Reeves, and correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think he's trying to

[26:12] start a discussion about shaking things up and doing everything different. I

[26:17] think we're just having a conceptual discussion about how we want the

[26:20] committees to look. So like the committees would continue their work

[26:23] ostensibly, but we need to have a conversation about how we want the

[26:26] committees to look going forward. And I don't know if next week is appropriate,

[26:30] but I don't see why the week after couldn't be. So

[26:34] » Council Member Worthington, >> um, speaking of the budget meeting this

[26:39] Thursday, that's an example of where that is set up for a committee. However,

[26:45] to me, every one of us here, this is something I'm going to try and have to

[26:49] come to because in the past, we have all been involved in the speaking and

[26:54] talking about the budget. And yet, as far as right now, unless we're a member

[27:00] of the committee or can find time again to out of our other lives, we are not

[27:06] going to be as involved or as informed as we should be regarding the proposed

[27:11] budget plus what's going on with this year's budget.

[27:19] » Uh, Council Member Reeves, >> I would say to a lot of these uh these

[27:23] issues are so important comments. if they're so important, then I think

[27:27] council needs to address them. And I think that that's been the issue that I

[27:32] have this whole time is that council's kind of been separated and not really

[27:36] dealing with the issues. We're we're finding out these things like way later

[27:42] or or you know, we're seeing a as far as I'm concerned, I'm seeing the committee

[27:46] slow dragging stuff. Your committee slow drugged the pool for six months. Could

[27:50] have pushed a lot stuff a lot quicker. your committees, the economic committee,

[27:54] we've what a 300 foot or 300 foot zoning thing and we're chasing some plan you

[28:02] have that you haven't been able to illustrate exactly what the problem is

[28:04] yet and I've asked you a bunch of times. You couldn't even illustrate the issue

[28:08] in the committee and I asked it and then I asked it again on council when I

[28:12] brought it up. You still have not been able to illustrate the exact issue but

[28:16] you love to bring up anecdotes all the time. So that's I think and this is

[28:20] exactly kind of my point. You're separating us on purpose. So I'll just

[28:24] call it out. You're separating us on purpose. I'm not going to be afraid to

[28:28] call out your BS anymore. I want to review this quicker because you're doing

[28:32] this on purpose. >> Council member Reeves, I'm not even

[28:35] going to acknowledge what you're stating.

[28:37] » I don't care if you do. >> I I do not even understand what you're

[28:40] giving >> all kinds of crap online. I'll say

[28:42] whatever I want. >> Okay, sir. You're almost out of order,

[28:45] so I'm going to call you on it. Phil, >> I will say whatever I want. Phil, you're

[28:49] not my boss. This is freedom of speech. I was elected. You were not.

[28:57] » Okay. Uh, Council Member Tony. >> Yeah. Um, I'm pretty sure we we post

[29:04] these and any council member that wants to attend one of these meetings are

[29:08] welcome to. Is that not correct? >> That is correct. Okay.

[29:12] » So, you can always attend the economic committee meeting, the quality of life,

[29:17] the budget. >> Weren't you the guy talking about

[29:19] wasting all kinds of hours doing all this and now you want to talk about me

[29:22] wasting all kinds of hours. You were the guy talking about we were going to waste

[29:26] all kinds of hours. You were also the guy I'm going to bring up. Council

[29:28] member Reeves, you were out of line. >> I just talk loud. I'm not out of line.

[29:30] She >> You were not advised. You were not

[29:33] advised that Council Member Tony had the phone.

[29:35] » I'm still up. I'm number one. He's number That's only

[29:38] » I'm number one. He's number two. I brought this up. I bring these issues

[29:44] up because you're not willing to listen to us. That's the problem here. You're

[29:48] you're trying to sidestep this. You brought you yourself cut down one of the

[29:52] committees yourself. You muted it and then shut off video. And hold on. And

[29:56] then you And then Ben Googans called you out on it. Called you out on No, no, no.

[30:01] Stop. And then called you out on showing up here.

[30:03] » Can you call him out of order? I >> was No, you're trying to cut me off. Ben

[30:07] Gugggins called you out for showing up here with information that your

[30:11] committee did not produce. >> That's what you got called out publicly

[30:14] for and then publicly you shut off the video. You shut off the the mic because

[30:20] you don't know how to handle people. Council member Reeves neither one of you

[30:23] do pushing back and neither one of you like it.

[30:26] » Council member Reeves, uh, you are out of line right now. You are you are

[30:30] attacking push back. >> You are attacking individual members and

[30:33] it needs to >> I'm calling out the mistakes you've made

[30:35] in your committees. Council member Tony, you have the floor.

[30:37] » You silence the citizens you want to listen to.

[30:40] » So, we had we had multiple meetings. We let the citizens speak for over 60% of

[30:46] the time. Our last meeting, you're talking about the ballot meeting. We had

[30:51] to get some work done. So, the team worked. We ran out of time

[30:57] and we finished. >> That's supposed to be on video. Let me

[31:00] finish. >> You're the one calling out video.

[31:02] » Can for the rec district. >> Can you council member him or something?

[31:05] You need to please let council member Tony finish his statements.

[31:09] » Go ahead, council member Tony. >> So, the same people were there at each

[31:13] meeting. We had our working meeting session that day and that's what we did.

[31:21] » And you shut off the video and the mic and continued on without other people.

[31:26] And then you No, no. And then you publicly called out the recck district.

[31:30] You called out the recck district for not putting their stuff out. And you

[31:34] silenced people. >> Okay.

[31:38] » Okay. Council member Tony, you still have the floor. Are you completed?

[31:42] » I'm I'm not answering. >> Okay. Council member Denah

[31:48] just so we can kind of go on. I think it would be a good idea like I said a

[31:52] minute ago to to to just have a discussion with this and with council

[31:57] because you know somebody mentioned here that you know you could go to all the

[32:02] meetings. you know, that's a that's a time thing for all of us and uh

[32:08] and you I'm not going to I have heard from some people on on one [snorts]

[32:13] other committee and I just think it's time that we have a discussion about

[32:17] this and I think it should be done within the next week or two.

[32:21] » There is no objection to that. I think we've talked about uh that being the

[32:24] case. So, um let's uh figure out a time that would be there. Uh I would like to

[32:30] get on the docket though. uh time for the city administrator review and a time

[32:34] for the attorney review that needs to happen sometime in September, early

[32:38] October. I've already had um this is not a surprise to Ryan whatsoever. Uh he and

[32:42] I have discussed that and making sure that uh this uh the council has goals

[32:48] for him, etc. So, let's talk about uh that one first because I think it's a it

[32:53] needs to happen. So, I don't know what we want to do for uh finding that time.

[32:57] Um I know you're going to be gone in late September. Uh do you want to go for

[33:01] the 1 of October? Will that uh meet where you want to be?

[33:05] » Yeah. So the way it has worked in the past is uh city council will have an

[33:10] executive session without me >> and uh discuss and then um two weeks

[33:16] later a city council meeting there'd be an executive session with me to go over

[33:20] those discussions. >> That's very helpful. So we can go ahead

[33:22] and have something in late September when you're out of town and uh or at

[33:26] least not at work and uh go from there. So, um, we'll go ahead and work with the

[33:31] clerk and I'll get some times out when we can, uh, do that. And again, I think

[33:36] a separate one would be, uh, Deacon reviewing the attorneys and, uh, how

[33:40] that is working for us as well. Uh, with that, we'll plan on the 23rd or after.

[33:45] And, uh, Council Member Schmider, uh, I'm looking for the next thing I'm

[33:50] trying to get to is a time for us to make a discussion about the committee

[33:54] structure. >> Thank you. I just wanted I was on the

[33:57] contracts committee previously so I just uh had pressed the button to provide the

[34:01] input that Ryan had provided about how the structure was done in the past. The

[34:05] last time that we [clears throat] reviewed the city attorneys, um I think

[34:08] a very key piece of that was sending out a survey to the department heads because

[34:13] the city staff department heads obviously interact quite frequently with

[34:17] the attorneys as well and having their input um about how the attorneys are and

[34:23] um could be serving their departments even better. Um I I thought was a very

[34:27] valuable part of that process. So, just wanted to put that out there because I

[34:30] believe you and Council Member Denahhee are the new contracts committee um uh

[34:35] appointees. >> Yep. Sounds good. And uh again, I'm

[34:38] trying to uh set up the agenda as the mayor at least from a docket standpoint

[34:42] of this is the timing that uh we would deal with these things. Again, we've

[34:46] made a commitment uh to uh the um drain people that we would have uh something

[34:52] done in September and I want to keep that commitment with them as well. Okay.

[34:56] Um, we'll get uh uh the poll out as far as timing. When do you want to meet uh

[35:02] council members as far as the committee structure? Let's get a time on the the

[35:06] dates and done.

[35:12] Council member McCuller. >> Uh to clarify, you're asking us to

[35:15] suggest dates right now to figure out >> I am. I I think that one you guys are

[35:19] viewing this as a top priority, so let's get a date.

[35:21] » I do have a suggestion. Um I was thinking maybe Wednesday the 23rd. or do

[35:26] we want to go into October? >> I want to make sure we get these other

[35:30] things done at least with the uh administrator. Um if uh we're looking at

[35:35] the next council meeting is the 21st. Um we're looking at the city administrator

[35:40] likely review uh sometime between the 23rd and the 30th.

[35:44] » Okay. >> So

[35:45] » so it it would really need to be the maybe the first week of October.

[35:51] » Yeah. The committee uh structure is going to be an open session. The other

[35:54] one is not. If we want to do a special city council meeting on maybe the 23rd

[35:58] or 24th, uh we'll start out with an executive session at 5:00 and we can go

[36:03] into a special city council meeting uh dealing with the committee structure. If

[36:07] you want to do that, I suggest that uh we do so on the 23rd or the 29th.

[36:13] » I am open to the 23rd for that suggestion.

[36:18] » I have a conflict at five, but I could make six on the 23rd. Six on the 23rd.

[36:23] I'd like to see us do the executive session and the uh other one to pile

[36:26] those on together if we could do that. Um what about the 29th?

[36:33] » What's that? >> Yeah. Or the 30th.

[36:39] » The 30th would work better for me. >> Is there any opposition to the 30th?

[36:43] Executive session at 5:00 dealing with city administrative review. And at 30 on

[36:48] the 30th at 6, we'll have a special city council meeting focused on the uh

[36:52] committee structure. >> Sounds like a plan.

[36:56] » Anybody again posted >> on the 23rd? The 30th is great.

[37:02] » Okay. We're going to go ahead and set that up. That's exactly what we'll do.

[37:06] And again, uh the time on the 30th at 6 o'clock will be public. uh the time with

[37:11] the executive session assuming that's where we're going to go but uh we are

[37:14] going to do it because it's a personnel issue uh is going to be on the 23rd.

[37:18] Okay. Very good. Uh any other comments uh on the agenda from council members?

[37:26] City administrator uh if you could go through uh the agenda.

[37:31] » Yes sir. >> Agenda.

[37:32] » Thank you. Uh item 7A is to approve the minutes for the regular city council

[37:36] meeting on August 17th. the special meetings on August 17th and August 24th.

[37:42] Uh we did have a correction in the regular city council meeting minutes and

[37:46] those have been updated. Uh we had a marked mayor prom absent for one of the

[37:54] votes and she had actually voted nay. So that has been corrected. 7B declare

[37:59] surplus equipment and authorized disposal per the city purchasing policy.

[38:04] 7C is award bid one uh 114-26 anthraite coal purchase to anthro filter

[38:12] in an amount not to exceed $17,955. 7D is to receive and ratify cash

[38:18] dispersements. 7E is to receive and file cash dispersements.

[38:23] Okay. Is there any questions for uh the city administrator regarding uh the

[38:27] consent agenda? Okay. Okay, I'll look for a motion to

[38:31] approve uh the agenda and the consent agenda with the changes uh on that one

[38:35] set of minutes. Council member Maloney.

[38:40] » Thank you. I move to approve the agenda and consent agenda with the

[38:44] aformentioned corrections. >> Council member Deni

[38:47] » second. >> Any discussion on the motion?

[38:50] Let's go ahead and vote

[38:59] and the clerk will read that one. >> Passed by majority vote of members

[39:03] present. >> Okay. Very good. Thank you very much.

[39:05] Administrator's report, please. >> Yeah. So, you have the written report uh

[39:10] in the packet. Uh does mention the ballot language. Uh we received the

[39:15] proof today. We had a couple corrections that's gone back to the county. So, uh,

[39:19] we're expecting the second proof tomorrow. Uh, we've had some meetings

[39:23] with four mile ranch and four mile the representatives of four mile ranch would

[39:28] like to come and present to city council at some point. So, uh, we will have to

[39:32] find a date for that so we can send out a doodle poll for that um because we

[39:37] also need to coordinate with their schedules as well. So, we'll try and f

[39:40] find some dates that will uh work for everybody. Uh, we already discussed the

[39:45] city gate survey. Uh those will be go that will be going out tomorrow. I think

[39:49] we're going to have it open or they're planning on having it open for two to

[39:52] three weeks. Um and then title 19, so the storm water

[39:57] um and ditch issue. Uh we have some emails going back and forth between the

[40:04] uh city staff and attorneys um buttoning up some red lines. Uh we will need to

[40:10] set that for a meeting as well because I believe we told the uh ditch companies

[40:15] that we would have that as a as a meeting.

[40:18] » We did indeed. >> Is that the report?

[40:20] » That is the report. So we we yeah I think from me title 19 setting a date

[40:25] for that discussion. >> Okay. I'll get that on I do uh just want

[40:28] to bring a question uh before you and you've already prepped you that uh

[40:32] that's the case. So data centers uh the county just took uh and did a moratorum

[40:36] on data centers. Can you give us uh any update that you're aware of as far as

[40:41] data centers and uh here in Canyon City? >> Yeah, we we have not received any

[40:45] applications or interest that I'm aware of for data centers here. Um the the big

[40:50] data centers that are all in the news right now that are very controversial,

[40:54] uh we don't have the infrastructure to serve a data center of those that size.

[40:58] Um as a matter of fact, talking to Black Hills Energy, uh it'd be very hard for

[41:04] PBLO to serve a data center of that size.

[41:07] » Okay. So, you don't anticipate that any action is needed. It's just simply our

[41:10] infrastructure is not going to get there and uh we've got nothing uh out there

[41:15] whatsoever. So, any rumors that are out there that we're dealing with data

[41:18] centers, that's not the case. >> That's correct.

[41:20] » Okay. Very good. Uh council members, >> thank you. I have a couple of follow-up

[41:25] questions. When you say the uh county clerk sent back corrections to the

[41:30] ballot language, um are there actual verbiage changes?

[41:34] » No. No, these are typographical uh what's actually going on the ballot.

[41:39] So, we found some typos, some duplicate language, things like that that we sent

[41:43] back to them. Um so, they they'll be sending the corrected proof back to us.

[41:47] This is the actual proof that will be on the ballot.

[41:51] » Okay. Thank you. Um with regard to the four mile presentation, obviously defer

[41:56] to them as to whether or not it would be feasible, but I would love to have that

[42:00] presentation up there um to kind of have a guided tour from them. Um I I think it

[42:05] would be really helpful to understand from a a spatial context as to what

[42:09] they're planning. Okay. >> For where um but defer to them if they

[42:13] had a different vision in mind. >> Does coun the rest of council okay with

[42:17] that. >> Yeah.

[42:21] » Yeah. We'll see what we can arrange. >> Thank you. And then the Oh, sorry. I had

[42:25] one. Sorry. Sorry, Deputy Clerk Warren. I had one more. Um, with regard to this

[42:31] survey and having it open for the next two to three weeks, are they uh limiting

[42:35] it so that uh one ISP address can only reply once? How are we planning to push

[42:41] it out and promote it? Who's the target audience? Are we all um supposed to be

[42:46] pushing it out to all of our networks? Is the city doing that? Is it everyone?

[42:50] Could you walk us through a little bit more kind of what does success look like

[42:53] for this survey? Thanks. I >> I will have to double check on the ISP

[42:57] address question. And I don't know the answer to that question right now. Uh as

[43:01] it relates to the survey we are going to be sending out to uh contractors those

[43:06] who have been through the development process that we have emails for. Uh we

[43:09] will be putting it on social media with the caveat that um it's very specific to

[43:14] this development process. So we're looking for people who have been through

[43:17] the development process to answer the questions and there's there's a couple

[43:21] of offramps within the questionnaire as well that ask those questions to

[43:25] confirm. Um, so, uh, we'll be pushing it a couple times, uh, well, more than a

[43:30] couple times through the city, uh, resources.

[43:33] » Wonderful. It's great to hear that you're sending it directly to those who

[43:36] have already been through our development process as well. If you are

[43:38] able to confirm kind of how they're planning to do the data control around

[43:43] it to ensure that the results are as um, as useful as possible. That would be

[43:49] much appreciated. >> Absolutely.

[43:51] » Okay. Okay. And just for clarification on that survey, it is for the

[43:54] consultants that uh are dealing with the processes within city government. Okay.

[44:00] Uh all set for the administrator's report. We're good.

[44:03] » Yes, sir. >> Moving on to number nine, discussion

[44:05] about the community recycling update. City administrator on that one.

[44:09] » Yeah. We have uh representatives from Apex here to talk about their new

[44:13] community recycling program and ask them to come up at this point.

[44:17] Welcome gentlemen or sir. >> Good evening. Um evening

[44:24] » really appreciate the opportunity to address.

[44:26] » Make sure you're nice and close to that mic. Appreciate it.

[44:28] » Can you hear me? Okay. Yep. >> Um appreciate the opportunity to address

[44:31] council. Um my name is Scott Lucash, founder of uh Apex and President and I'm

[44:36] joined here with our general manager Chris Broshu. Um the goal today is is

[44:41] really to bring some just information and awareness to what's going on in the

[44:45] state and how it's going to impact Canyon residents. Um you may have

[44:49] noticed a lot of uh carts getting delivered. There are recycling carts

[44:52] with blue lids to residents in this community. And a little background, let

[44:57] me just make sure that this works. A little background on this program. Um

[45:03] EPR is what it's called. It was it was passed um in 22. It's taken about four

[45:09] years to kind of get to the stage today uh where we're we're in the process of

[45:13] implementing it. And essentially what it's going to do Colorado as a whole has

[45:17] really struggled with diversion and recycling. Um EPR is coming in and what

[45:22] they are doing is the the producers are funding am I moving the pro? Sorry about

[45:27] that. Um the producers are funding the program um

[45:32] paying into it to get you know really ac uh accessibility to recycling to all

[45:38] residents whether you're in a rural community in Denver in in Colorado

[45:43] Springs, PBLO or Canyon City. And it's going to make recycling um affordable in

[45:49] that there is no cost to the resident. Um and it it's going to you know we're

[45:54] going to provide a rollout cart uh Apex submitted for a reimburse a

[45:59] reimbursement rate. So once the program goes live which we are really close to

[46:03] we think it could start September October um that we will get reimbursed

[46:08] for curbside recycling at the curb. So it's going to be accessible to all

[46:13] residents here at no charge. Um the cool thing is we did we started doing

[46:18] communication on this about two months ago just letting you know informing our

[46:21] customers hey this is coming our you know let us know if you don't want to

[46:25] participate. We anticipated you know a pretty high opt out ratio. Um,

[46:31] surprisingly in the last, you know, 2 months, we we we've only gotten less

[46:35] than 5% almost 2 or 3%. That said, hey, I don't want to participate. I don't

[46:40] have room. Um, you know, other reasons and what that was for. But, uh, what

[46:46] it's telling me is that the residents do want to recycle here. Um, and we're

[46:49] seeing it in the other communities where we provide service. So, it's it's a new

[46:53] program. This is the biggest thing that probably has happened on recycling and

[46:57] waste collection in 20 25 years in the state. And you know the the real motive

[47:02] of the program is to just give access to every community and um you know rural

[47:08] communities have been a real challenge with recycling because the reality is

[47:11] it's you know from a cost perspective it's really difficult to make sense

[47:15] economically for it. This takes that off the table and gives access to even the

[47:19] most remote communities in the state. So, we just wanted an opportunity to

[47:24] really come down and talk to you a little bit about what the program is in

[47:27] case that you get questions. And it is, you know, a statewide and and Apex is

[47:32] participating member of the program, the EPR program that is administered by a

[47:38] company called Circular Action Alliance. So, um we're dropping carts at residents

[47:44] and and you know, the response has been great. Uh a lot of people call in and

[47:48] say, "Hey, when am I going to get our cart?" So, the one thing we

[47:51] underestimated is we we didn't know what percentage of the community would

[47:55] participate and um and we're getting a surprise, you know, surprising reaction,

[48:00] a lot more than we anticipated originally, which is great um because we

[48:04] didn't know, you know, there there's no Colorado EPR program is really the first

[48:08] of its kind where it's addressing processing and collection at the same

[48:13] time. Um it did go into Oregon u a little earlier, but that was just on the

[48:18] processing side. So the model of what Colorado is doing probably will be the

[48:22] model for the rest of the country. So I think there everybody's watching this

[48:25] very closely but a lot of people didn't know about it. So, you know, we asked if

[48:29] we could join here tonight and just at a high level just, you know, tell you what

[48:33] what it's all about. Um, kind of our initial response from the residents,

[48:38] which has been very over, you know, overwhelmingly positive and and and and

[48:43] what we're trying to accomplish and and you know, the the best thing is we have

[48:47] a landfill here in town, but we want to maximize the life of that landfill. And

[48:50] hopefully, you know, it's the only landfill that, you know, is ever in the

[48:53] county. um but you know by diverting more and and it's usually estimated that

[48:59] 35% of your waist stream is recyclable. So, I would say the one comment we're

[49:04] getting back is maybe I don't know if I generate enough recycling to make sense

[49:09] of the program. And so, our customer service people are trying to educate,

[49:13] hey, here's what's recyclable, you know, and and think about the Amazon effect.

[49:16] Every cardboard box is recyclable. Um, you know, your plastics are highly

[49:21] recyclable. Um, you're going to see the producers, um, and the producers backing

[49:25] this program are the Walmart, Walmarts, Coke, Pepsi, the all the names we know.

[49:31] They're going to make their packaging um more recyclable. Um get away from some

[49:37] of the the the the commodities that are less, you know, make less econ economic

[49:42] sense to do their packaging in. And they're going to try to get it in ones

[49:46] and twos, which are highly recyclable, highly reusable. So, it's a it's a new

[49:50] program. Um and we just wanted to get in front, like I said, because I I know you

[49:55] might be getting calls, hey, what is this all about? Um and we want you to be

[49:59] prepared for the the answer. But uh it's at no cost to the resident and actually

[50:03] the the customers that are seeing the recycling uh that are participating in

[50:08] the program before this went into effect will see their bill go down because that

[50:12] the recycling portion of it will come off and it'll get reimbursed through the

[50:16] the PRO which is administering the program. So yeah, this is just a little

[50:21] overview of what we've done. Um kind of how we're uh you know, our early

[50:26] communication informing the our residents. Cart delivery started last

[50:30] week. Um we hope to to start our collection the 21st. Uh- which would be

[50:37] the first collection day for these new customers that have just received carts.

[50:40] So, um, we're we're moving right along and, um, really excited about the

[50:46] program, but a lot of people are, you know, just not aware of, hey, what is

[50:49] this all about? Where did this come from? And that that was a little of the

[50:52] history. So, um, we have a lot of good resources on our website. Um, if you go

[50:58] to uh our the Apex website locally, we have a whole page dedicated to what the

[51:02] program is all about, how it works, who to contact if you have questions um as

[51:08] as the program rolls out in full. So, that was really the extent of it, but uh

[51:13] you certainly could open it any questions if that's appropriate.

[51:16] » Just uh define Apex as far as who you are and then I've got a whole list of

[51:21] people who want to ask you some questions.

[51:22] » Yeah. So, so Apex Twin Envirro, we we are the local uh waste and recycling

[51:26] provider here in Canyon City. Um been operating for many many years. Um I ca I

[51:33] purchased the company um with some investors uh about three year four year

[51:38] two years ago um from from the the the prior owner who was just nearing

[51:43] retirement age. So yeah, we've been in this community for a long long time and

[51:46] yeah, we provide all the waste and recycling services um you know uh

[51:50] throughout Canyon and and Fremont County.

[51:53] » Very good. Thank you. Okay, I've got five up uh actually number six now. So

[51:58] here we go. >> Council members Misher.

[52:00] » Thank you. Um you mentioned a couple of times based on eligibility, is everyone

[52:05] who lives in Canyon City eligible? >> Good question. Um in theory, yes. Uh

[52:10] there might be some re really remote locations that we just don't have the

[52:15] equipment yet to do it. But our plan over time is to get it access to

[52:20] everybody within our service footprint. But we're starting really with the the

[52:24] the city and periphery city limits and and and we will expand as as we grow

[52:28] into the program. >> And are the things that can be recycled

[52:32] the same as what you currently accept? >> Yes, for the most part. Um, CAA does

[52:38] require a a minimum recyclables list which is on our it's on our container.

[52:43] It's on our website site. So, definitely encourage residents to go and see what

[52:46] those things are and they may change from time to time.

[52:51] » Okay. Um, and you had mentioned a couple of times carts, but based on the photo,

[52:56] it looks like they are the normal dumpsters that y'all currently provide

[53:00] and people can ratchet strap them shut if they have bears. Is that So, it's

[53:04] just the typical. It's not a change. No, it's it will just have a blue lid. It

[53:08] will have the same color body, but a blue lid, which disting distinguishes uh

[53:12] recycling. >> Perfect. Correct.

[53:13] » And then this may actually be a question for the city administrator or city

[53:17] staff. I believe we do have other recycling companies in town. Do you know

[53:20] if they are also participating or eligible for EPR?

[53:25] » That's a good question. I don't know off the top of my head. IO

[53:34] » I also don't know but I believe they have to opt in if they want to

[53:37] participate. So if you contact the other haulers and providers this is a program

[53:41] that the haulers has to have to kind of choose to be a part of if they want to.

[53:46] » Thank you. That's really helpful and thanks so much for coming and sharing

[53:48] this information with us tonight. It's really helpful.

[53:51] » Yeah. >> And yeah I can just add to to to that

[53:54] comment. Anybody can participate, but you do have to submit agreements and

[53:59] things like that to get the reimbursement. So, it there's nobody

[54:02] excluded from the program. You just have to register for it.

[54:06] » Understood. Thank you. >> Yep. Council member Tony.

[54:09] » Yeah. Thanks for coming uh and thanks for being here for decades.

[54:14] » Yes. >> But, uh can you quickly go through the

[54:17] recycle cycle drill? if uh we put something in the recycle, is it

[54:23] completed here or does it go to another facility? And number two, is there

[54:28] future charges to residents? >> Yeah, great great question. So, uh the

[54:34] cool thing is we have a transfer station here where we move recyclables through

[54:38] that transfer station. So, we're going to aggregate it on the floor um maximize

[54:42] it in an over over the road trailer to go get recycle. We're not actually doing

[54:46] the physical processing here. We're doing the transfer of the processing to

[54:51] a plastics, you know, recycler likely go to Colorado Springs. They have big

[54:55] automated MURFs, they're called material recovery uh facilities. So, we will be

[55:00] the transfer point um for here in Canyon for that. So, we can aggregate it, you

[55:05] know, if there's another participating member, they can they can drop it on

[55:08] that floor so they can participate and we bring it and then then we move the

[55:11] materials to the final processing facility where it goes. Um, you know,

[55:16] the program is built as a nocost program by the producers. Um, so, you know, the

[55:22] that's what we know about it and there is no cost to that. Um, you know, could

[55:26] things change down the road, we don't control that. It would be the the the

[55:31] program itself, but to my knowledge, the the plan is no cost recycling in the

[55:35] state. >> City administrator, are you still up?

[55:40] Uh, you went away. You're good. Okay. Council member McCuller.

[55:43] » Thank you, Mr. mayor and thank you for being here and educating us and helping

[55:47] our community understand the value of this. Um I don't have any questions per

[55:52] se, but I do remember growing up in a canyon city without recycling. Well, it

[55:56] wasn't that we didn't have recycling facilities, but they were the ones that

[55:59] you had to bring your stuff to in the parking lot. And I think this is such a

[56:03] great thing for our community. And as folks who live in a rural area, we know

[56:07] that we have to be really good stewards of our our waste so that we can keep our

[56:12] rural areas looking good. So, I'm really excited to see the impact this can have

[56:15] for our town. >> Wonderful. Yeah. I mean, if there's one

[56:19] area that that really helps recycling is just that education piece, and we're

[56:22] going to really try to promote that education. You know, right now, you

[56:26] know, typical recycling streams probably have 15 to 20% that is contaminated. You

[56:30] know, uh pizza boxes is the people get confused by it. If it's wax coated, it's

[56:36] not recyclable. People think cardboard, oh, it's recyclable. So, we're going to

[56:39] try to really uh push the the the education of the program, too. But,

[56:44] yeah, there might be things that we can do collectively or collaboratively to

[56:48] just get that message out there now that this program is really going to change.

[56:52] » Can you educate the bears? >> I wish I could. I wish I could.

[56:55] » I wish you could as well. >> Yes. Good thing is recycling, no odor.

[57:00] Um, typically not a bear issue. Um, you know, garbage is where they go for

[57:04] » the trash. >> Yep.

[57:06] » Pizza boxes. >> Yep. Council member Maloney, thank you.

[57:10] Is this residential only? >> Yes, the the program is focused on

[57:14] residential only. There is a component of the program that would come in 2028

[57:19] 29 that would focus on commercial recycling. Um but that is like a second

[57:24] phase of the program is my understanding. So I I think commercial

[57:29] and commercial would be your business. You have a trash container out there and

[57:33] then you would have an equivalent recycling container there in the steel

[57:36] box. So, that eventually is part of this program, but that is not part of this

[57:40] first phase. >> Um, I was curious because a week or two

[57:44] ago, a couple of those totes showed up in the alley behind my business and I

[57:49] wasn't sure >> did So, did was it possible some of the

[57:52] other commercial people signed up for a recycling program and those things

[57:55] showed up? >> It it shouldn't be. it was delivered and

[57:58] that not to say our data was perfect but uh if there was a residential person

[58:03] anywhere on premise it could have gotten placed at the wrong side but we have

[58:06] fielded about probably about 50 calls saying hey you know this came here I

[58:11] don't you know this is a a commercial business so we're we're recovering those

[58:15] as we learn about them >> okay and really quick I could probably

[58:19] go to the website but can I sign up for recycling for my commercial business now

[58:23] even if I had to pay for it? Yes, absolutely.

[58:26] » Okay. >> Just it's just no cost at this point. At

[58:29] some point it will be at, you know, potentially at no cost with EPR.

[58:33] » Okay. Thank you. >> Yep.

[58:35] » Council member Reeves. >> Uh I haven't worked for Twin at one

[58:41] point. I know that recycling wasn't something that we did and um seeing the

[58:46] amount of waste. I think that people underestimate the amount of waste that

[58:50] we really make. And um when I was managing the ice company, I I tried to

[58:54] find places that would recycle in mass quantities. And so it's it's a long

[59:00] needed thing for our community is to have this. And I know that Chris, you

[59:03] know, has been working Chris, by the way, is my brother. He's been working at

[59:07] Twin for a lot of years. We've came a long ways from when we started there.

[59:12] Um, but he's built that recycling facility and you guys are adding to it

[59:17] and it's awesome to see for our community.

[59:21] » And we should do a podcast about this. We should go out there to their facility

[59:25] and show the whole thing. >> I mean, really with you, too, by the

[59:29] way. Leo.

[59:33] » Okay. Um, um, Ryan, you're back on.

[59:37] » I am. I you know, we got our recycling tote last week and I have a second

[59:43] grader who's very excited cuz he had just learned about uh recycling in

[59:47] school. >> Uh are you partnering with any of the

[59:50] schools on probably not this presentation, but recycling in general

[59:53] to try and push or drive some of that recycling effort? Yeah. Yeah. I I mean,

[59:59] certainly with this program coming on and and I think it would be a great, you

[1:00:03] know, we we do it in a lot of communities we're in and and I think

[1:00:06] that's a great way to be honest with you. The best recyclers are usually the

[1:00:09] kids telling their parents what is and isn't recyclable. So, you know, that

[1:00:13] that is something that we definitely should do more of now that this program

[1:00:16] is really coming. Before it was a very very low percentage of of people

[1:00:20] participating and there was a cost to it cuz it was it was cost to get out. Now,

[1:00:24] you know, this program really kind of levels the playing field there for

[1:00:27] residents to participate. So, um, great great advice, uh, to get more involved

[1:00:32] with the schools. I think that'd be great for this session.

[1:00:37] » Okay, we thank you for coming tonight. Thank you so much.

[1:00:40] » Wait, excuse me. Okay. Council member Denny,

[1:00:43] » one one question real quick because I've had a few people the the totes that you

[1:00:47] dropped off >> and collected last week. Are those

[1:00:50] recycling ones that you dropped off or I saw some being picked up, some being

[1:00:55] dropped off? >> Mhm.

[1:00:56] » That's what I was just kind of just so we can kind of maybe clear the air

[1:01:00] there. the the ones that are getting dropped off will have a blue lid, which

[1:01:04] which and and and an instructional packet on it on what the program is all

[1:01:08] about, how to reach out to us. >> Uh but yeah, the blue lids will be known

[1:01:13] as the recycling container. Same color bodies are going to be black and black,

[1:01:16] but and then the black lids are your trash, but there's markings on the top

[1:01:20] of the lid. Um little examples of what is and isn't recyclable on that. Um but

[1:01:25] yeah, they are the blue ones. So, you are actually but even changing out the

[1:01:29] others as well at the same time right now.

[1:01:32] » Yeah, I don't I don't think we're we're really changing out the trash. We

[1:01:35] shouldn't be unless Yeah, I I don't think so, Chris. Correct.

[1:01:38] » Okay, that's just good to know. All right, thank you.

[1:01:41] » Yep. >> Thank you again for coming. Appreciate

[1:01:43] it. >> Appreciate it.

[1:01:45] » Okay, >> city administrator, there's no staff

[1:01:47] report on this, right? >> On what?

[1:01:51] » On Apex? No. >> Yeah. Okay. So number

[1:01:56] 9B uh we're dealing with a second reading and adoption by title only of

[1:02:00] ordinance 12 series 2026 entitle an ordinance appointing Larry Dean Allen as

[1:02:04] municipal judge and approving the contract for services. Uh any staff

[1:02:09] report on this? You've had nothing else from first reading.

[1:02:11] » Second reading. We don't have any additional information and staff would

[1:02:15] recommend passing on second reading. >> Okay. Any discussion? I'm open to a

[1:02:19] motion. Council member Tony. If there's no discussion, I'd like to

[1:02:24] make the motion to uh pass on the second reading of adoption by title only of

[1:02:28] ordinance 12 series 2026 entitled an ordinance appointing Larry Dean Allen as

[1:02:34] municipal judge and approving the contract for services.

[1:02:37] » Uh council member Reeves, >> I second.

[1:02:40] » Any discussion on the motion? Hearing none, let's go ahead and vote.

[1:02:53] and the clerk >> passed by majority.

[1:02:56] » Okay, very good. So, the next uh regular city council meeting is going to be on

[1:03:00] September the 26th. Uh we do have a special city council meeting tomorrow

[1:03:04] night uh dealing with the clock tower plaza and uh we now have a uh meeting

[1:03:09] set up for September 30th uh dealing with uh the committee structure. And I

[1:03:14] know that we've got more on deck as far as uh dealing with uh the um drain issue

[1:03:21] and uh the we're going to have on the 30th also your review, but we'll have

[1:03:26] one in the future on the attorneys as well. So that's the docket and with that

[1:03:30] we are adjourned for this evening.

Regular City Council Meeting 09-08-2026

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