[0:39] To. Call this hearing to

[0:40] order walking the senate on how

[0:44] - we can to welcome a public and

[0:46] - tested as we as telephone

[0:47] tells for individuals wishing to

[0:50] public comment- remotely today

[0:52] that's number is eight seven

[0:56] seven two two six eight one six

[0:58] three- and the access code is

[1:00] six excuse me. Seven three six

[1:06] two eight three four- your whole

[1:07] there can of course the swing

[1:08] space- I will ask- us to tv are

[1:12] final for all my- to make their

[1:15] way. Down we do not currently

[1:17] have a quorum we need two more

[1:20] for a quorum so will begin as a

[1:21] subcommittee senate's topless

[1:23] quorum when a couple more

[1:25] members ocon we have six bills

[1:28] on today's agenda the first two

[1:30] goals are mine so our vice chair

[1:31] center until a bill will preside

[1:33] over those. Two bills as I

[1:38] present- and we want. We will

[1:41] once we have a car- will adopt a

[1:44] committee rules- but small pass

[1:47] over that for now- so- we will

[1:51] now. Move to our first item all

[1:54] passed gavel to our voice.

[2:09] the. Everything on. The on. Over

[2:20] welcome senator wiener you may

[2:22] press your bill. Okay and

[2:26] minimize your this is a senate

[2:28] bill works yes sorry yes we are

[2:31] - will be reviewing s. B. For.

[2:33] the senate wiener. Thank you

[2:36] very much my to my her-

[2:38] colleagues are senate bill- will

[2:41] our and non call. To you their

[2:44] and- to- 1100% of housing- it

[2:49] will address owning and also the

[2:52] - so that we can to- do new

[2:54] homes- we have- a lot of work

[2:58] and research years to try to

[3:00] address. Severe housing shortage

[3:02] where she million of home- and

[3:03] we know that probably so around

[3:04] house that short is our homes

[3:08] are hello market rate which is

[3:10] what this bill- addresses. We

[3:13] know that our churches

[3:15] synagogues mosques and other

[3:17] religious institutions as well

[3:19] as nonprofit colleges have a lot

[3:22] of lands and often they have way

[3:24] more land than they need whether

[3:26] it's a church or synagogue that

[3:28] has a parking lot that's three

[3:29] times as big as what their

[3:31] congregation needs warts are

[3:33] simply have land that they're

[3:34] not. Using and we know the date-

[3:37] often want to build housing to

[3:40] promote their mission to provide

[3:42] housing. For people however due

[3:44] to zoning restrictions and

[3:46] approval- limitations are there

[3:49] sometimes it's- difficult or

[3:52] often impossible. For them to do

[3:56] so we know that- from- analysis

[3:58] a few years ago from the turner

[4:00] center which is being updated as

[4:02] we speak. Looking at only the

[4:04] largest counties in california

[4:05] so not even all the counties a

[4:07] small subset of the counties

[4:08] said in a fight- I believe-

[4:12] thirty eight thousand acres are

[4:13] potentially a potential plans.

[4:16] for affordable housing if you

[4:18] take the whole state and god in

[4:19] the nonprofit colleges it's a

[4:21] lot more. This will be a game

[4:23] changer. For the construction of

[4:29] . 101% of portable housing- open

[4:35] up tens of acres of land. That

[4:37] will be affected prioritize-

[4:39] builders particular non does the

[4:41] bill that bill a hundred for

[4:43] housing they won't have to can.

[4:44] with the market rate developers

[4:45] which is often a barrier in

[4:47] terms of accessing. Land bill is

[4:52] - we hi first the in twenty

[4:55] twenty a it passed the senate

[4:57] thirty nine to nothing- I was

[5:00] very proud of that broad bi

[5:02] partisan support for this bill-

[5:04] among members because we know

[5:05] there are members in both

[5:07] parties who have. A lot of

[5:08] different pages on housing it

[5:10] really was a unifying. Bill we

[5:12] did a lot of work in this

[5:13] committee and also in the

[5:14] governance and finance committee

[5:16] that you're on the bill to try

[5:18] to really respect the local

[5:19] context in terms of neighborhood

[5:22] issues- and we've honored all of

[5:24] those agreements- from twenty

[5:26] twenty. We have a massive

[5:27] coalition- behind this bill of

[5:30] affordable housing advocates

[5:31] faith based. Organizations and

[5:34] advocates- are labor unions-

[5:36] business organizations I'm very

[5:39] proud of this broad coalition

[5:41] and I respectfully ask your aye

[5:43] vote. With me today to testify

[5:45] and I know will probably

[5:46] established. Moments but with me

[5:49] today to tell. Is tied from the

[5:52] - the direct policy of an-

[5:54] housing is. Of northern cal. And

[5:56] l. From congress but nay is. In

[6:00] soccer. Class so- matter chair-

[6:04] I assume of stop form. As of

[6:13] fact yes- we are we are. Able to

[6:17] senate you're might be off.

[6:19] donald don. And we do have a- we

[6:24] do have a members now to able to

[6:25] see a so we're gonna ahead move

[6:28] forward on that- senate leader.

[6:33] president wiener present a- for.

[6:36] a troubled present like spear

[6:38] president bush for president

[6:40] carrero. Several presence

[6:43] cortese mcguire. Videa seyarto.

[6:51] there to present skin. Number

[6:53] yeah number present bob. Harper

[6:58] .

[7:01] we'd like to first adopt the

[7:03] committee rules for twenty

[7:06] twenty three and twenty twenty

[7:06] fourth legislative session

[7:08] without objection I'm sorry. Gen

[7:12] is there any objection adopting

[7:13] the rules. C. Nine seven two-

[7:20] really just the result. Without

[7:22] objection they are currently

[7:23] atop thank you. Thank you madam

[7:25] vice chair no to our witnesses.

[7:29] thank you chair and committee

[7:31] member- test finds the of senate

[7:32] for on behalf and housing this

[7:34] or california unease abram d. As

[7:36] in on the policy director from

[7:37] ph. M. Ph represent around seven

[7:40] hundred and fifty affordable

[7:41] housing builders advocates and

[7:42] community leaders working to

[7:44] support the creation and

[7:45] preservation of affordable homes

[7:46] across california. As we all

[7:48] know the shortage of housing has

[7:51] created a desperate crisis first

[7:52] stay in california's families

[7:53] last year the california

[7:54] department of housing and

[7:55] community development released a

[7:56] report enumerated in our

[7:57] challenge we need to build at

[7:59] least one million affordable

[8:01] units over the next eight to ten

[8:03] years. Has large property

[8:03] holders faith based institutions

[8:05] and private colleges are an

[8:06] important position help us meet

[8:07] this need as previously stated

[8:09] there tens of thousands of acres

[8:11] that are possible for us to use

[8:13] to build affordable housing many

[8:15] in very higher particularly

[8:16] areas. These organizations as

[8:18] long standing community anchors

[8:19] which to lead in addressing our

[8:20] housing and homeless crisis our

[8:22] faith partner see this as an

[8:23] extension of not only their

[8:25] mission but also their moral

[8:27] calling. The problem we're

[8:27] trying to solve is that while

[8:29] many these institutions are

[8:30] ready to build and support

[8:32] affordable housing the current

[8:32] zoning prevents it our partners

[8:34] you can take a year at the

[8:36] minimum and we're typically

[8:37] several years to all these

[8:38] projects to move forward. That

[8:39] kind of delay can cost us

[8:40] hundreds of thousands of dollars

[8:42] on these units and discourages

[8:43] and prevents us from building

[8:45] homes for low income families

[8:45] and working families. This bill

[8:47] insure that we apply reasonable

[8:48] streamlining principles that are

[8:50] religious communities can't open

[8:51] their doors to californians in

[8:52] need. We ballots approach by

[8:54] including strong labor

[8:55] requirements and worker

[8:56] protections as well. As you can

[8:58] see the analysis the bill has

[8:59] support for about a hundred and

[9:01] eighty groups from across the

[9:02] state. Including labor equity

[9:03] housing groups faith groups.

[9:05] offer muslim jewish and

[9:07] christian communities as well.

[9:08] well collectively- just support

[9:09] and I'm happy to help. Answer

[9:15] questions as needed thank you.

[9:16] thank you madam chair and

[9:16] committee members and thank you

[9:18] senator wiener for authoring

[9:19] this important legislation. And

[9:21] thank you to jake pet cat pack

[9:23] and all of the co sponsors of

[9:25] this bill for championing this

[9:26] effort on behalf of california

[9:28] communities of faith. My name is

[9:29] rabbi mona alfi and the senior

[9:30] rabbi at congregation b'nai.

[9:32] israel you're in sacramento

[9:33] sacramento's largest synagogue.

[9:35] and the oldest synagogue in the

[9:37] state of california. The most

[9:38] repeated commandment in the

[9:40] torah is love your neighbor as

[9:41] yourself. For you were slaves in

[9:44] the land of egypt. Cities across

[9:46] california are facing a housing

[9:47] crisis housing and homelessness

[9:49] crisis and we're seeing our

[9:50] neighbors live in the streets.

[9:52] in astounding numbers. Driven by

[9:54] our jewish values in our own

[9:56] history of oppression countless

[9:58] synagogues are eager to address

[9:59] our homeless crisis homelessness

[10:01] crisis. And support our

[10:02] neighbors that are most in need.

[10:04] and we know that our friends in

[10:05] the muslim christian and other

[10:07] faith communities share the same

[10:08] important values. Faith

[10:10] communities are some of the

[10:11] state's leading organizers of

[10:13] volunteering charity efforts to

[10:14] help our neighbors experiencing

[10:17] homelessness. But food your

[10:18] donation drives temporary

[10:20] shelter options and similar

[10:21] campaigns are largely bandaid

[10:23] solutions. Just yesterday the

[10:25] sacramento bee reported a third

[10:27] death this winter due to the- to

[10:29] weather. Inclement weather for

[10:31] people who are homeless. The

[10:32] jewish sage maimonides has a

[10:34] famous teaching about the latter

[10:35] of giving charity. Where the

[10:37] highest rung the most impactful

[10:39] way you can give is to help

[10:41] someone succeed themselves. In

[10:43] fact this lesson is sometimes

[10:44] credited as inspiration for the

[10:46] proverb about teaching a man to

[10:48] fish. Our community is

[10:50] desperately want to create

[10:52] permanent solutions for those

[10:53] experiencing poverty hunger

[10:55] housing insecurity and

[10:56] homelessness. And we we're ready

[10:58] with a quip for it synagogues

[11:00] and other faith institutions own

[11:02] large properties all over the

[11:03] state's many in communities

[11:05] where portable housing is

[11:06] desperately needed. And many

[11:08] with lan to spare. But we need

[11:10] to pass this bill to remove the

[11:12] red tape and prohibitive.

[11:16] processes that make it hard to

[11:17] build a portable housing. For

[11:18] some pay institution this op.

[11:19] could be their lifeline

[11:21] providing revenue that can

[11:22] stabilize their organization's

[11:23] finances. This bill is a

[11:26] creative solution to address the

[11:28] critical issue of our time. And

[11:30] gives it if communities of faith

[11:32] important opportunity to form a

[11:33] real minutes for. A kind and

[11:35] loving deed for our neighbors

[11:37] thank you for your consideration

[11:41] . Thank you very much. Never

[11:45] will now move on to. Which lead

[11:47] witnesses. In support here in

[11:51] room twelve hundred. Do we have

[11:56] any witnesses in support of sb

[11:58] four here in room twelve hundred

[12:00] here they come. Sign up right

[12:03] here. You can. Madam chairman

[12:06] still the s. Shot here on behalf

[12:08] of the of santa monica and

[12:10] strong support thank you. Good

[12:13] afternoon man turn numbers

[12:13] caroling about the city and

[12:15] county of san francisco in

[12:16] support. Good afternoon my name

[12:19] is simply customer policy

[12:20] advocate for western center on

[12:22] law and poverty we have a

[12:23] support if amended position and

[12:25] look forward to conversations to

[12:26] ensure that the projects are

[12:28] located on toxic land thank you

[12:31] - brings up a map of lighthouse

[12:32] public affairs and our clients.

[12:33] spur and habitat for humanity

[12:36] and support. And you have

[12:39] renters city lawcenter skidrow

[12:40] nonprofit. Pro bono law firm we

[12:43] are excited to sponsor and

[12:45] support this bill. Scissor

[12:49] rodriguez proud member of

[12:50] carpenters local one fifty two I

[12:53] reside in stockton california

[12:54] selma king county I stand it

[12:56] support with my brothers and

[12:57] sisters today and for s. B. Four

[13:01] we need housing now thank you.

[13:04] good afternoon I'm the reverend

[13:06] dr mary craves a presbyterian

[13:08] pastor from redwood city and

[13:10] because I know of an increasing

[13:12] number of churches that have

[13:14] both the property and the

[13:15] passion. To provide affordable

[13:17] housing- here to support as

[13:20] before. Good afternoon my name's

[13:24] called swarms I'm a resident of

[13:26] sacramental a member of local

[13:28] forty six an inmate here here in

[13:30] favor of us sb four thank you.

[13:35] my name's robin dr penny nixon

[13:37] from the county of san matteo

[13:39] codirector the peninsula

[13:40] solidarity cohort and right now

[13:42] I'm working with five churches

[13:43] who desperately desire to build

[13:46] affordable housing on their land

[13:50] . My name is reverend dr marlon

[13:52] bessie I pastor in san mateo

[13:54] california and I'm the co

[13:55] director of the peninsula

[13:56] solidarity cohort my church is

[13:59] one of the ones. That is

[14:00] actively trying to build

[14:03] affordable housing in san mateo

[14:05] fired your support press before

[14:07] thank you. Hey my name is almost

[14:12] not- I am currently in east bay

[14:14] umb lead volunteer I'm

[14:16] originally based in oakland park

[14:18] is the- originally based in

[14:19] modesto california central

[14:20] valley currently in oakland

[14:21] right now I'm here. And support

[14:23] on behalf of espn bees and also

[14:25] myself for sb four- thank you

[14:29] and state- good afternoon my

[14:33] name is doctor tervis page

[14:35] aminopterin universalist

[14:36] minister in san mateo and also

[14:38] with the peninsula saudi energy

[14:39] cohort to. Be here to show my

[14:42] support. My name is krista

[14:46] hansen I am a member of

[14:48] peninsula solidarity cohort and

[14:50] of the congregational church is

[14:51] san matteo and we very very much

[14:54] want this bill to pass. I could

[14:59] afternoon lewis monday with bury

[15:01] council we represent about three

[15:02] hundred and thirty of the bay

[15:04] area's largest employers and I

[15:06] think housing is the number one

[15:08] issue for our region to solve-

[15:09] we're here in strong support of

[15:12] s. Before today thank you. My

[15:15] name is dick and lauren mccomb's

[15:17] I am a deacon in the episcopal

[15:19] church I'm a member of peninsula

[15:21] solidarity cohort and also faith

[15:23] in action bay area it's time. To

[15:26] support housing in our area I

[15:31] support s. Before thank you for

[15:32] your time. Madam chair scott

[15:35] governor behalf the construction

[15:38] employers association in support

[15:41] . Madam chairman is pastor

[15:44] curtis smith of the pastors

[15:45] destiny christian center

[15:47] stockton california. Also

[15:48] director for faith in the valley

[15:51] and I'm here in strong support

[15:54] of its before. Good afternoon

[15:58] madam chair and committee

[15:59] members my name's maria coronado

[16:01] with selfless mountain states

[16:01] carpenters proud member of local

[16:05] three two three and we support

[16:06] as before thank you. Good

[16:09] afternoon my name's alex are

[16:11] calling a policy manager at mid

[16:13] penn housing affordable housing

[16:14] developer and we stand in strong

[16:16] support of this before. Good

[16:21] afternoon mainly maintenance for

[16:22] the southwest regional mountain

[16:24] states mountain states regional

[16:26] council of carpenters and member

[16:28] of local etal five we're in

[16:30] strong support of. His before

[16:32] thank you. Good afternoon my

[16:36] name is at the ventura I'm a

[16:38] represented with the southwest

[16:40] mountain states regional council

[16:41] of carpenters representing

[16:42] ventura santa barbara san luis

[16:44] obispo county we strongly

[16:45] support this before thank you.

[16:50] madam chair members of the

[16:51] committee jordan plan a kind of

[16:53] a hard on behalf of californian

[16:55] be instructs report thank you.

[17:00] hello my name is sam the

[17:01] director of mission housing

[17:02] development corporation in san

[17:04] francisco on affordable housing

[17:05] provider I'm here today on

[17:06] behalf of mission mercy housing

[17:08] tenderloin housing clinic in the

[17:10] john store company as well as

[17:12] bridge housing and we are here

[17:14] in strong support of this before

[17:16] thank you. Hi glorified

[17:20] executive director of the in the

[17:21] action and on behalf of our

[17:23] three thousand members across

[17:24] california in strong support.

[17:28] I'm lisa moss and I'm a member

[17:30] of san francisco u. M. B. And I

[17:32] am very strong support events

[17:34] before. Good afternoon sure

[17:38] numbers jordan crimes on behalf

[17:40] of environmental nonprofit green

[17:42] built alliance here in strong

[17:43] support of this before thank you

[17:47] . Hello my name is a totally is

[17:49] carper's local twenty to thirty

[17:51] six out of oakland and I'm a

[17:53] strong supporter of this before

[17:55] thank you. Good afternoon

[17:58] everybody my name somebody. On

[18:00] behalf of nor cal carpenters

[18:02] union in strong support. Rauner

[18:06] let solano county resident

[18:08] carpenters local one eighty nor

[18:11] cal carpenters in strong support

[18:14] . Hi my name's ira kaplan I'm a

[18:17] member of san francisco again be

[18:19] I'm here in strong support of

[18:21] this before thank you. Hello

[18:25] everyone matthew miller norco

[18:26] carpenters I'm a member of

[18:27] carpenters are troubled others

[18:29] local ninety sixty eight in

[18:31] livermore in strong support. And

[18:33] we need housing in the peninsula

[18:34] badly. Afternoon everyone- zac

[18:40] bowling- volunteer lead with

[18:41] east bay m. B. I'm here in

[18:43] strong support for us before

[18:45] thank you. Good afternoon alleys

[18:49] a permit on behalf of the

[18:50] housing action coalition and

[18:51] enthusiastic support but I'm

[18:53] also here because I've been

[18:54] housing insecure my entire life

[18:57] and we need solutions now thank

[18:59] you. Good afternoon my name is

[19:02] ralph sonnenfeld I'm with you

[19:04] can be action and I'm here on

[19:05] behalf of chapters and partners

[19:08] espn be grow the richmond

[19:10] mountain view yimby napa solano

[19:12] for everyone northern neighbors

[19:13] peninsula for everyone progress

[19:15] no we valley san francisco emb

[19:18] santa cruz in b. Santa rosa can

[19:19] be slow cøng. B. South bay m. B.

[19:22] sell side ford urban

[19:23] environments manelis and people

[19:27] for housing orange county thank

[19:29] you. Right okay now red and here

[19:32] on behalf of how to eighty you

[19:34] in the twenty thousand

[19:34] homeowners in our community in

[19:35] strong support of us before. Hi

[19:39] susan setter homes san francisco

[19:41] emb member I live in support of

[19:44] housing and I'm grateful and I

[19:45] want more people. To have the

[19:48] same opportunities. Hello alex

[19:53] nylander as I work in the action

[19:54] I'm also a member of peninsula

[19:57] for everyone in strong support

[19:58] of s. Before. Hi I am just in

[20:02] markets with enterprise

[20:03] community partners for a

[20:05] national affordable housing

[20:06] nonprofit and on behalf of our

[20:07] san francisco la and stockton

[20:09] offices were here in strong

[20:11] support thank you. Good

[20:15] afternoon that the legacy of

[20:16] kings here on behalf of all home

[20:18] and sb silicon valley action fan

[20:22] . Afternoon pass today picture

[20:25] embrace church an organizer with

[20:28] faith in the valley in strong

[20:30] support of s. Before we need

[20:33] housing now. Good afternoon my

[20:38] name's courtney pal and with

[20:40] resources for community

[20:40] development or and nonprofit

[20:42] housing developer in support of

[20:44] us before. Good afternoon cassie

[20:48] manzini on behalf of the

[20:49] california school employees

[20:51] association and strong support.

[20:56] afternoon madam chair edward

[20:57] evans carpenters local two

[20:59] seventeen nor cal carpenters in

[21:01] strong support of as before.

[21:05] what estado minimalist ideas and

[21:06] diesel so to present them that

[21:08] on in the coming in oakland on

[21:10] it will invite him but yeah.

[21:12] this district a took up a spot

[21:14] low day civic what through but

[21:18] go out today and bass will he's

[21:20] up to go up you know start how

[21:22] it is good even extortion.

[21:25] because a little slim people

[21:27] okay I'm a the correct to put up

[21:28] with kettle as he critical

[21:31] complete to stop does he. Good

[21:41] madam chair to doug excel

[21:42] because states count carp rep

[21:44] locals one nine sandia impair

[21:46] county where strong support for

[21:47] us beef thank. Thank mister

[21:51] chair cliff here on behalf of

[21:53] shape the g. Public affairs.

[21:55] representing over major or- cal

[21:56] from c. Diego northern cal

[21:58] please vehicle sponsor of before

[22:03] . After d'amico carpenter locals

[22:06] fifty one says no we can in

[22:07] strong support sb. Muncher my

[22:12] name is cheryl mccurry I'm

[22:14] fitter center for kerr look

[22:16] twenty two surfaced. Nor caucus

[22:17] union and for thank you. Good

[22:22] afternoon my name is martinez

[22:24] but I was a proud member of the

[22:25] carpenters union is strong

[22:27] support for s. Before. They have

[22:31] to do my name isn't on when you

[22:33] also nor cal carpenters local

[22:35] seven thirteen out of hayward in

[22:36] strong support of this before.

[22:38] bring a white with the

[22:40] california housing consortium in

[22:41] support. Good afternoon rebekah

[22:45] markets on behalf of leading h.

[22:48] california in support. Good

[22:51] afternoon jason martinez from

[22:53] the carpenters local seven one

[22:55] out of fresno masalah proud

[22:56] military veterans- in support.

[23:02] good afternoon travis alexander

[23:03] nor cal carpenters union in

[23:05] fresno county resident here in

[23:06] strong support of this before.

[23:10] good afternoon this is my final

[23:12] comment is local eighty nine

[23:13] solano county in strong support

[23:16] of his before thanks. Hi melanie

[23:19] how wine truppe I'm here

[23:20] representing temple isaiah in

[23:22] contra costa county and hopes

[23:25] solutions which is a- home

[23:28] provider in contra costa. In

[23:33] support of us before. Hi can

[23:37] warn with the multi faith action

[23:39] coalition shelter and housing

[23:40] task force in contra costa

[23:42] county in strong support of this

[23:44] before. Hello scott little hill

[23:48] resident of richmond california

[23:49] proud member of nor cal

[23:51] carpenters local union one five

[23:53] two and contra costa counties

[23:55] strong support best before. Find

[23:59] douglas leach I would like to

[24:02] I'm a member of the multi faith

[24:03] action coalition and would like

[24:05] to also- on behalf of this

[24:09] social justice alliance of the

[24:11] interfaith council of contra

[24:13] costa county register. Of that

[24:15] both organizations strong

[24:17] supporter best before. Good

[24:21] afternoon my name is jesse

[24:22] problems proud member of the nor

[24:24] cal carpenters union and

[24:26] president seven thirteen

[24:26] representing alameda county and

[24:28] we're strong support of this

[24:29] before thank you. Good afternoon

[24:33] everyone I local seven thirteen

[24:36] I support as before thank you.

[24:37] thanks for. Good afternoon

[24:40] daniel greg member nor cal

[24:41] carpenters union local twenty

[24:43] thirty six in oakland strong

[24:45] support sb four thank you. Good

[24:48] afternoon dan cal mucci

[24:50] carpenters local twenty two in

[24:51] san francisco here in strong

[24:54] support of s. Before. Good

[24:57] afternoon my name is juan

[24:58] espinoza I'm a proud member of

[24:59] nor call carpenters union local

[25:02] two seventeen in some auto

[25:02] county. And I'm here in support

[25:06] of- is before thank you for. Hi

[25:11] david on behalf of the budget

[25:12] san francisco standing with our

[25:13] partners in the carpenters union

[25:15] in strong support. Good

[25:19] afternoon my name is doug

[25:20] chesshyre I'm a proud member of

[25:22] carpenters local six oh five

[25:24] monterey county here in strong

[25:26] support of this before. Good

[25:31] afternoon my name is laura

[25:32] drastic I'm a proud member of

[25:34] the nor cal carpenters local

[25:36] four oh five san jose california

[25:39] and I'm in strong support of s.

[25:40] before. My name is a cable I am

[25:46] a resident of pleasanton which

[25:48] is a little town in alameda

[25:49] county. Animal the union rep

[25:51] with the carpenters and I'm in

[25:54] support for this bill thank you

[25:58] . Hello my name is francisco

[25:59] martinez someone up county

[26:01] resident and on the field with

[26:03] with a local carpenter saw local

[26:05] twenty to twenty six and I'm in

[26:07] support of flies before. My

[26:11] number is move several places

[26:13] that keep it up we are let you

[26:15] civic what through. It the

[26:16] missouri booted off their queue

[26:17] the little because the window

[26:19] units on with the for. I use

[26:22] that as a us out as the- hosting

[26:28] is the person noted the rest.

[26:30] merrill lynch health so of local

[26:32] house finance agency in strong

[26:34] support of s. B. For. Good

[26:37] afternoon my name is luke

[26:39] brattan mot proud member the nor

[26:40] cal carpenters union in support

[26:41] of. This before thank you. Hi I

[26:47] am karen sandel yak co founder

[26:49] from foundation community

[26:51] housing and support thanks. Hi I

[26:53] am brian leahy I'm part of a a.

[26:56] r. P.'s response team and are

[26:58] three point two million members

[27:00] we're strong support of s. S.

[27:01] before. Mark stivers for the

[27:06] california housing partnership

[27:06] in strong support. Madam chair

[27:10] members good afternoon james

[27:11] director of the california state

[27:13] council labor's part being

[27:14] support. Twenty with the a

[27:18] california apartment

[27:19] association's from support

[27:20] thanks. April atkins proud

[27:24] member of local twenty two san

[27:26] francisco strong support thank

[27:27] you for allowing me to speak.

[27:31] good afternoon j. Bratcher

[27:33] executive officer nor cal

[27:34] carpenters union on behalf her

[27:35] thirties over thirty six

[27:37] thousand hard working men and

[27:38] women out in the field in twenty

[27:41] two local unions we strongly

[27:42] support as before thank you.

[27:45] good afternoon my name is one

[27:47] barbosa and I'm representing-

[27:49] local coverage local five zero

[27:51] five in santa cruz california-

[27:53] in strong support of as before.

[27:57] canister from ninety one forty

[28:00] four in san jose I strongly

[28:01] support as before. Once the

[28:07] containers travel a lot as

[28:08] livermore california sport is

[28:10] before. Foundries from local

[28:16] fifty nine nine redding

[28:17] california I strongly support as

[28:18] before. My name's chris martinez

[28:23] local fifty nine nine redding

[28:26] california and I strongly

[28:27] support. My name is jerry chan

[28:31] tapia from local forty six

[28:33] sacramento and I strongly

[28:34] support its before. My name's

[28:39] dave on adelina twenty five year

[28:41] member of laughter sixty eight

[28:43] out of oakland I support

[28:45] commonsense legislation like

[28:46] this before. Because out of san

[28:50] jose local four five carpenters

[28:52] and support the sb. Four regally

[28:57] out a little ninety one forty

[29:00] four out of san jose california

[29:02] I truly support as before. A

[29:05] little three local ninety one

[29:07] forty four exuberance before.

[29:11] gonzalez carpenters union local

[29:15] forty six a member- a member of

[29:16] the original sacramento sorry

[29:20] supporters before. But a reserve

[29:23] announces local twenty two

[29:25] carpenters I supporters before.

[29:31] capitalize a local twenty to

[29:34] thirty six in strong support of

[29:36] s. B. For. Hello- matt was

[29:39] embarrassed as here you

[29:40] californians support. Good

[29:44] afternoon precor chapter

[29:45] director of community organizing

[29:46] andy kerr a jewish faith

[29:48] community in los angeles also a

[29:50] member of la voice and we

[29:52] support with amendments thanks.

[29:55] the river zachary hoover

[29:56] executive director of la voice

[29:57] speaking on behalf of our sixty

[29:59] member congregations also part

[30:00] of peak of california we have a

[30:02] dozen congregations interested

[30:03] in doing this but face daunting

[30:04] challenges and we support with

[30:07] immense. Carmona director of

[30:11] campaigns for people california

[30:12] will support with the max. Ryan

[30:18] chilcote corporate reached

[30:20] support as before. Perfect thank

[30:28] you. To have any other witnesses

[30:31] in support. Thank you. For all

[30:45] take that is it in support yes.

[30:48] thank you very much sir will now

[30:50] move on to live lead witnesses

[30:51] in opposition here in twelve

[30:55] hundred room to offer under we

[30:56] have any. Witnesses in

[30:57] opposition.

[31:12] please proceed thank you thank

[31:13] you so much good afternoon madam

[31:15] vice chair members but really

[31:17] you on behalf the state building

[31:18] construction trades council

[31:20] california representing a

[31:21] million half a million members

[31:22] statewide with an oppose unless

[31:24] amended position on us before.

[31:26] specifically we urge the

[31:28] committee to include a skilled

[31:29] and trained workforce

[31:30] requirement for residential

[31:32] construction under the bill

[31:33] instead of the eighty mile of

[31:35] the standard from last year. The

[31:37] current language is legally

[31:38] problematic has not even going

[31:40] to affect yet allows developers

[31:42] you license unenforceable

[31:43] healthcare requirement that's

[31:44] likely preempted under the

[31:46] federal employee retirement

[31:47] income security act of nineteen

[31:49] seventy four. This fatal

[31:51] preemption problem is

[31:52] highlighted in the text of the

[31:53] bill and it's severability

[31:55] clause provisions the bill also

[31:57] includes a superficial

[31:58] apprenticeship requirement

[31:59] that's really nothing more than

[32:03] just a paperwork exercise. Any

[32:04] streamlining bill worker

[32:05] protections stand listing both

[32:06] prevailing wage coverage and

[32:08] skilled and trained workforce

[32:10] requirements. Goldentree

[32:11] provisions require percentage of

[32:12] workers on the project the

[32:14] graduates of a state approved

[32:15] apprenticeship programs without

[32:17] this requirement the bill

[32:18] creates two tiers of labor

[32:20] standards that result and

[32:21] residential workers having fewer

[32:23] protections than those other

[32:26] sectors of construction. Barring

[32:27] the use of skilled and trained

[32:28] workers on the job site is how

[32:30] the state can best capture the

[32:32] productivity benefits a

[32:32] prevailing wage. This ensures

[32:34] that workplace safety and

[32:35] ultimately the health and safety

[32:37] of people living in these homes.

[32:39] stay approved union

[32:40] apprenticeship programs for the

[32:42] state's critical pipeline to the

[32:43] substantial drops. In the

[32:45] building trades union members

[32:46] here stick with the construction

[32:48] long term increasing their

[32:49] lifetime earnings and feeling

[32:53] healthy economies. The fire

[32:55] moved for me tech- economy the

[32:58] world still needs to be

[32:59] physically built. We strongly

[33:00] support gay affordable housing

[33:02] bills but is short sighted to

[33:04] miss an opportunity to invest in

[33:06] and promote a strong pipeline

[33:08] for highly skilled and trained

[33:09] workforce that would be

[33:11] critical. To meeting the housing

[33:13] production needed today and in

[33:14] the future. Opponents of skilled

[33:16] entry provisions are completing

[33:17] the total number of housing

[33:19] units needed to be built. To the

[33:21] small number of housing projects

[33:23] shovel ready today to fabricate

[33:25] a worker shortage. I want to

[33:27] reiterate there is no worker

[33:31] shortage here in california.

[33:32] instead of focusing on labor

[33:33] standards for small segment.

[33:35] three we believe labor standards

[33:36] should be expanded to a much

[33:38] broader segment of the ford will

[33:40] housing industry. We urge you to

[33:42] vote no or commit to withholding

[33:44] your bill on the floor and

[33:45] working with us to ensure these

[33:47] important amendments are

[33:48] included before the bill passes

[33:51] off the floor. Thank you very

[33:52] much. Jennifer second half the

[33:58] california association of

[33:59] realtors we have an oppose

[34:00] unless amended position

[34:01] currently we're very optimistic

[34:03] that in the end will be able to

[34:05] resolve our concerns with the

[34:06] author. Primarily among a

[34:07] variety of technical moments

[34:09] that we are working on with the

[34:10] senator we're concerned about

[34:11] the term ancillary uses within a

[34:13] single family neighborhood. The

[34:16] broad. Use of ancillary could

[34:19] result in something like a dry

[34:20] cleaner or some kind of service

[34:22] shop located that could provide

[34:23] a beneficial use. To the

[34:25] community that the project is

[34:26] built in what we're looking to

[34:29] do is simply clarified that the

[34:30] commercial uses within that

[34:31] residential single family

[34:32] neighborhood would only include

[34:33] child care facilities. And

[34:35] community centers as defined by

[34:37] hud thank you. Madam chair

[34:43] members got which on behalf of

[34:45] the more than two hundred

[34:46] thousand members of the state

[34:47] association of electrical

[34:49] workers. The california state

[34:50] pipe trades council. The western

[34:52] sit western states council sheet

[34:54] metal workers. The california

[34:56] coalition of utility employees

[34:58] and the elevator constructors

[34:59] union. You can support housing

[35:02] without stripping worker

[35:03] protections that are in the law

[35:05] today in collective bargaining

[35:08] we call that a take back. This

[35:10] bill is a take back it should be

[35:14] voted down thank you. The other

[35:18] couple killed three other

[35:20] position. He to sit afternoon my

[35:23] name is mark I work for this

[35:25] building trades and an

[35:26] oppositional amended. Thank you

[35:30] . Okay let me just clarify that

[35:31] ray now remove on to. Opposition

[35:33] witnesses from top. Mitchell

[35:37] bechtel with the discounts of

[35:38] iron workers were oppose unless

[35:39] amended thank you. Hello my name

[35:45] is like a steel I'm with the

[35:46] ibew local eleven of los angeles

[35:48] representing almost twelve

[35:51] thousand members and we oppose

[35:52] as before. Hello my name is an

[35:56] estimate on all representing the

[35:57] los angeles and orange county's

[35:59] building and construction trades

[36:00] council represent all over a

[36:03] hundred forty thousand hard

[36:03] working men and women the

[36:04] construction sector. Forty eight

[36:05] affiliates and I urge a- no

[36:08] support for senate bill for less

[36:10] as troopers of standards and to

[36:12] labor standards thank you.

[36:15] raymond davis president of iron

[36:17] workers local one eighteen here

[36:18] in sacramento I- stand with the

[36:20] building trades and oppose this

[36:22] bill unless amended. Good

[36:27] afternoon ladies and gentlemen

[36:29] the council my name is ken

[36:30] miller business asian organizer

[36:31] for ironworkers local three

[36:33] seventy eight and I stand in

[36:34] solidarity with the state

[36:35] building trades to oppose unless

[36:37] amended thank you. Good

[36:42] afternoon choi aren't so with

[36:44] our workers local one eighteen

[36:45] out of sacramento and I also

[36:47] stand with the state building

[36:48] trades an oppose unless amended

[36:49] thank you. Good afternoon my

[36:57] name is maggie and I'm the

[36:58] business manager for a local

[37:00] union two to eight plumbers and

[37:00] pipefitters a merry still

[37:01] california and I stand with the

[37:03] california state pipe trades in

[37:05] the building trades an oppose

[37:07] unless amended. Perfect do we

[37:12] have any other witnesses in

[37:14] opposition test before here in

[37:16] room. Twelve hundred. Seeing

[37:20] none thank you well now because

[37:24] there is one more okay. I

[37:31] apologize for my tardiness I am-

[37:33] john hershey with bombs and

[37:35] pipefitters local four four

[37:36] seven in sacramento county- and

[37:38] I'm here oppose unless amended

[37:39] thank you. Any other witnesses

[37:43] in opposition to us before

[37:45] hearing room twelve hundred.

[37:48] correct we will now move on to

[37:52] witnesses wanting to testify p.

[37:53] of the teleconference service

[37:55] will be limiting the phone

[37:56] testimony to twenty minutes for

[37:58] the bill for all bills during

[38:00] this hearing. Moderator if you

[38:03] would please from the

[38:04] individuals waiting to testify

[38:06] in support or opposition and we

[38:09] will begin. Ladies and gentlemen

[38:11] if you are in support or

[38:13] opposition sb for please press

[38:15] one then zero on your phone. To

[38:17] oversee the line number in be

[38:19] placed back in queue. The

[38:21] speaker phone please pick up

[38:22] your handset before pressing the

[38:23] numbers and once again that's

[38:25] supporter opposition sb four one

[38:29] nine zero we will goal with it

[38:33] my number one twenty two. Your

[38:37] line is open one twenty two-

[38:41] gerald johnson road sprinkler

[38:42] fitters local six six nine. Can

[38:44] we stay on the state building

[38:45] trades in opposition with

[38:47] amended. Thank you my number one

[38:51] thirty two. One thirty two your

[38:59] line is open. Yes can you hear

[39:00] me. Go to say fifty five yes I

[39:05] can hear you go head. Twenty

[39:10] katie lou creating brand I'm

[39:12] here representing. It will

[39:15] action fine and how. It will

[39:18] advise committee. Strong support

[39:29] - before. Service provided for

[39:34] of supervisors thank you. Thank

[39:38] you not to local line one thirty

[39:41] for please go ahead. Okay one

[39:47] thirty five p. Push yourself our

[39:48] he go ahead. Can you hear me but

[39:53] I calling the regarding s. B.

[39:57] twenty three hello do I speak to

[40:00] for twenty three I know it a

[40:02] speech. The bill ma'am right now

[40:04] we're taking and into or in

[40:05] opposition for s. Before. Okay I

[40:10] go back to sleep twenty three

[40:14] okay thank you thank you may.

[40:20] and it next will go to live and

[40:24] - three here. I will go to line

[40:27] number one so two please ahead.

[40:29] hello this is kevin info the for

[40:31] committee legislation to help

[40:33] and for of a the for thank you.

[40:37] next we will two I never eighty.

[40:41] one to wonder what the tropical

[40:42] of bishops and I apologize our

[40:44] support better got misdirected

[40:46] within the portal but you don't

[40:48] have us listed on the analysis

[40:50] we are in very strong support of

[40:52] this before thank you. Thank you

[40:57] I number. One eighty seven. The

[41:03] new jersey members this is the

[41:03] extent of all the task

[41:04] california's largest the most

[41:05] impactful nonprofit homeless

[41:07] service providers in for support

[41:09] press before thank you. Thank

[41:11] you my number. One seventy four

[41:19] one seventy four. Instrument

[41:20] drove the port ask people thank

[41:22] you. Thank you bye number. One

[41:29] sixty seven. Good afternoon

[41:31] senators- this is clearly spoke

[41:32] with the california building

[41:33] industry association we are

[41:35] support if amended for s. Before

[41:38] we requested the labor

[41:39] provisions be removed from the

[41:41] bill other than that this is a

[41:42] wonderful bill when I think

[41:44] center where for his leadership.

[41:46] in addressing california's

[41:48] housing crisis. Thank you bye

[41:52] number so three go ahead. The

[41:57] binder. The city of campbell

[42:00] south bay and protect the you'd

[42:01] be proud support before thank

[42:03] you. Thank you my number. One

[42:09] nine four. This is to be more

[42:11] shiny one calling from angeles

[42:13] on behalf of westside for

[42:14] everyone strong support of sb.

[42:15] thank you. Thank you bye number

[42:20] . Thirty two. Hi open schaller

[42:23] from los angeles single family

[42:24] homeowners on I work with that

[42:27] church right now on fox. Taken a

[42:31] to the clinton fifteen but house

[42:33] on such. Thank you senator thank

[42:37] you for and before. Thank you my

[42:43] number. Two zero one two zero

[42:47] one. The reverend james chan of

[42:49] the fiscal dies of los angeles

[42:52] our vision has come twenty five.

[42:54] of all church. In the dot each.

[43:02] to afford housing only we could

[43:05] get sb four pass. Thank you

[43:08] structure. Thank you number

[43:11] eighty nine number. How good

[43:15] afternoon this st boston bill

[43:17] manager of plumbers pipefitters

[43:18] local eight four from turkey.

[43:21] mister to build state trades and

[43:24] - cooper. To this bill. Thank

[43:28] you number one seven six point

[43:31] seventy six. Afternoon care

[43:34] number proposed on behalf of the

[43:37] about the hills in the office

[43:39] thank you. Thank you my number

[43:43] one if. One fifteen. Good

[43:47] afternoon description is not

[43:48] behalf of a local five six nine

[43:50] occurred six hundred union a lot

[43:52] . San diego imperial county

[43:54] calling in opposition unless

[43:56] amended for both senate for an

[43:58] four to three you don't house by

[44:00] break the backs workers thank.

[44:05] thank you a line of one the you

[44:07] love one. Hello this is a

[44:10] committee president business age

[44:12] of iron look three said eight

[44:14] neistat with this building. And

[44:16] unless I. Thank you line of with

[44:24] . Forty seven forty seven. Wild

[44:27] well the- local ninety colleges

[44:32] considers them standing the

[44:34] state billingtree follow up of

[44:37] this whole this bill. Thank you

[44:42] alaina. One twenty five. Yes

[44:47] good afternoon this is james

[44:49] from the business agent our

[44:50] local three seventy and I stand

[44:51] opposed to s. B. For a man.

[45:05] twenty one twenty six. Thank you

[45:05] hearing. Schoology. Good

[45:11] afternoon kalra a press business

[45:13] thank you nine one because of

[45:15] forty three l. And we stand with

[45:17] stiff building trades in

[45:18] opposite of that before last

[45:20] summer thank you. Thank you

[45:26] number. Fifty three fifty three.

[45:30] hi my name is brian and I'm a

[45:33] age for you a local three nine

[45:33] three over thirty hundred

[45:35] pipefitters fitters and h. B.

[45:36] service tech in san clara in it

[45:37] okay- today I'm into oppose it

[45:39] before unless amended and I that

[45:42] you all do the same thing you

[45:43] for your time. Thank you my

[45:44] number eight nine. Point nine.

[45:47] hi my name is publicly- I live

[45:49] in oak and I phone california

[45:50] being used bay for everyone and

[45:52] I'm calling strong. This before

[45:53] thank. Thank you my number so

[45:59] seven once a seven. Robert new

[46:03] fields doesn't the power I don't

[46:06] judy or county. In strong

[46:09] support of the. Four thank you

[46:15] we will go to my number zero

[46:19] three zero. Madam chair todd to

[46:20] refer the sub california con is

[46:21] so. In support of s. B. Thank

[46:23] you. Thank you line fifty.

[46:27] vicegerent this is rob stoker on

[46:30] behalf of sheet metal workers

[46:32] local one of four and the

[46:33] building construction trades

[46:34] council of alameda county we

[46:36] stand with the state building

[46:37] trades in opposition of us

[46:39] before unless mended thank you.

[46:43] thank you thanks to recorded

[46:44] line number one forty seven.

[46:47] it's a matter speaking about

[46:49] pakistan give allowing support

[46:51] s. Before. Yeah thank you I get

[46:56] my number six six please call

[46:59] ahead. Good afternoon ab right

[47:02] manager do a to six and press

[47:05] couple representing members from

[47:06] fresno madera kings and

[47:07] flourished. We stand with the

[47:09] building trades in opposition

[47:11] unless amended. Thank you. Thank

[47:16] you mexico line one eighty

[47:18] please going. My name is tim

[47:20] clark which a community church

[47:22] in portola valley. In strong

[47:25] support of this before. Thank

[47:29] you next we'll go to line number

[47:31] seventy four please go ahead.

[47:35] this is jordan wind from united

[47:37] way of greater los angeles-

[47:39] calling in in strong support of

[47:42] sb four thanks very much. Thank

[47:45] you my number eighty three

[47:47] please go ahead. Hello this is

[47:50] david barboza on behalf of

[47:52] abundant housing la in strong

[47:54] support of its before thank you

[47:57] . Thank you next to a bottom

[47:58] line number sixty one sixty one

[48:01] please go ahead. Good afternoon

[48:03] this is john henry lopez with

[48:05] the ua plumbers and pipefitters

[48:07] local two four six representing

[48:09] fresno madera until tulare kings

[48:11] counties and I'm standing in

[48:13] strong opposition. Of this bill

[48:17] unless amended thank you. Thank

[48:20] you my number one goal one one a

[48:24] one. Hello the next more locally

[48:25] elevator union I'm staying

[48:27] involuntary with the state

[48:28] building trained in opposition.

[48:31] you cannot build housing that

[48:32] could be on state skilled and

[48:34] trained workforce is mandatory

[48:36] for the state yet the residents

[48:39] . Thank you. Thank you my number

[48:43] one of forty two one forty two.

[48:47] hello my name is different how

[48:48] they were they gamble I'm with

[48:50] the procedure at the pacific

[48:52] presbyterians. In los angeles

[48:54] area. Representing fifty four

[48:56] churches fong event be. We need

[48:59] to find an extract right back

[49:01] between barker protection and

[49:03] for les. Affordable housing.

[49:08] thank you we will go to number

[49:12] two oh six tools. Yes this

[49:14] martin rodriguez I work with

[49:15] local for thirty three. Dallas

[49:18] state building trades opposes

[49:19] bill let amended. Thank you.

[49:24] thank you weinberg two seventy

[49:26] two please go ahead. Hi my

[49:32] number seventy two your line is

[49:33] open. John johnson at the

[49:40] berkeley now crap we stand in

[49:42] line with the state building

[49:44] trades in opposition is- at

[49:45] before thank you. Thank you bye

[49:48] number. Two hundred. Good

[49:52] afternoon this is one hundred

[49:53] guests with ibew local forty we

[49:55] stand with the state building

[49:56] trades and oppose as before and

[49:59] as amended. Thank you my number

[50:03] fifty four fifty four. But gets

[50:06] with sprinkler fitter to a local

[50:08] seven oh nine we stand with

[50:10] state building trades in

[50:10] opposition unless amended thank

[50:12] you. My number. Sixty eight. Hi

[50:19] my name is frank martinez policy

[50:21] director for the southern

[50:22] california association of

[50:23] nonprofit housing groups camps

[50:25] we are co sponsoring this bill.

[50:27] represents nonprofit builders

[50:28] affordable housing in southern

[50:30] california region of nineteen

[50:32] million people are members

[50:33] strongly support this bill and

[50:34] they agree on affordable housing

[50:36] projects in the pipelines that

[50:38] would move forward faster as

[50:41] soon as this bill is passed

[50:42] thank you. Thank you my number.

[50:49] fifty seven fifty seven. The

[50:50] firm sacramento here building

[50:52] and construction trades council.

[50:53] and we stand with the cal state

[50:55] building trades in opposition

[50:57] unless amended thank you. Thank

[51:01] you my number one fifty one.

[51:05] carol can the san diego building

[51:06] trades council and in opposition

[51:09] again a lesson and it thank you

[51:12] . Thank you bye number. One

[51:16] thirty seven. Yeah this is larry

[51:17] mazzola you a local thirty eight

[51:20] plumbers and pipefitters

[51:20] business manager at san

[51:21] francisco strongly oppose this

[51:25] bill unless amended. I wanna

[51:26] make it clear that there is only

[51:28] one union in support of this

[51:29] bill and they are not part of

[51:33] the building trades thank you.

[51:34] thank you of line number seventy

[51:37] please go ahead. My number

[51:44] seventy six please go ahead. Hi

[51:47] disappearing of represent and-

[51:49] refer someone approvals local

[51:51] forty of san francisco county

[51:52] and san matteo and we stand in

[51:55] the with the state military to

[51:57] strong opposition of this bill

[52:00] unless amended. Thank you my

[52:02] number. Eighty five eighty five.

[52:12] my number eighty five your line

[52:13] is open. We will move on to the

[52:17] next line which would be fifty

[52:19] eight to please go ahead. Good

[52:22] afternoon my name's regina

[52:23] califia would the ibew local

[52:26] five nine five representing

[52:27] nearly twenty five hundred

[52:29] electrical workers in alameda

[52:30] san joaquin calaveras county-

[52:32] feeding in solidarity with the

[52:33] state building trades in

[52:34] opposition to senate bill four

[52:38] thank you. Thank you my number.

[52:45] one thirty eight. My number one

[52:46] thirty eight your open. Yeah

[52:48] good afternoon can you hear me

[52:49] now. Go ahead. Hi my name is

[52:52] patrick davidson local printer

[52:54] nine nine pairs knowledge

[52:54] trades- represents san diego and

[52:57] imperial county used I stand

[52:58] opposition was the billion tree

[53:01] jim was amended thank you. Thank

[53:05] you. Go to my number one eighty

[53:08] two. Hello this is rob nielsen

[53:12] from palo alto and peninsula for

[53:14] everyone and I am calling in for

[53:16] strong supporter of this before

[53:19] thank you. Thank you will go to

[53:22] line number eighty nine eighty

[53:24] nine please go ahead and. Number

[53:31] eighty nine your line is open.

[53:36] next we'll move on to line

[53:37] number one thirty thirty please

[53:40] go ahead. My number one thirty

[53:47] your line is open. Okay we will

[53:52] go to my number one thirty three

[53:55] my number one thirty three.

[53:59] afternoon rudy gonzalez cancers

[54:02] ability you can reach council

[54:03] representing over seventeen

[54:06] hundred apprentices in our area

[54:08] eight thousand skilled and

[54:10] trained union workers. And we

[54:10] oppose unless amended standard

[54:14] state bill trips. Thank you will

[54:18] go to my are five please go

[54:20] ahead. Yes reverend bert newton

[54:24] in pasadena with making housing

[54:26] and community happen and we are

[54:28] in strong support of this before

[54:30] to address disappear. For awhile

[54:33] housing crisis. Excludable to

[54:39] line number one forty one. My

[54:41] first behind his budget. My

[54:45] number one forty one your line

[54:46] is open. Thank you I don't think

[54:53] countered all of them french.

[54:54] great when it will go to line

[54:57] number forty is my number forty

[55:00] . Yeah hi todd berry road

[55:01] sprinkler fitters local six six

[55:04] nine and I stand in opposition.

[55:05] amended with the state building

[55:07] trades thank you. Thank you to a

[55:10] photo I. Number. Thirty four.

[55:15] your local six nine. I stand

[55:19] this building trades are not in

[55:22] amend. Thank you klein number

[55:25] seven but it was a local sixty

[55:30] nine I stand in with the state

[55:32] building choi the lesson. Thank

[55:36] you line. Two hard is robert.

[55:41] lead with volunteer san

[55:43] francisco emb and so thank. I

[55:47] thank you my number one of one

[55:51] oh five. His office bizarre with

[55:54] you a three nine three we

[55:56] represent thirty one hundred

[55:57] plumbers painters. And hvac

[55:59] service. Santa clarendon no

[56:03] county. We stand with the state

[56:04] building trades and stand

[56:06] opposition of sb four unless

[56:08] amended. Thank you my number.

[56:15] one eighty six. Afternoon among

[56:17] those particular here I'm also

[56:18] business representative with you

[56:20] a local three nine three plumber

[56:22] thinkers and perpetration

[56:23] patterson santa clara and san

[56:24] benito counties and we stand

[56:26] with the state building trades

[56:27] in opposition to this bill let's

[56:30] amended. Thank you. Thank you

[56:33] next to- go to line number

[56:35] ninety nine please go ahead. My

[56:41] number ninety nine your line is

[56:42] open. Doug benji any-

[56:46] international brotherhood of

[56:48] electrical workers four four one

[56:49] orange county we stand with the

[56:51] building trades in opposition to

[56:53] sb four unless amended. Thank

[56:57] you bye number. Two eleven to

[57:03] eleven. Hi this is david watkins

[57:05] who is known to you beacon

[57:07] support of sb. Thank you my

[57:12] number two twenty one to twenty

[57:14] one. Eight m. Subsidy q. We will

[57:18] go with to nineteen please go

[57:20] ahead. Two twenty three please

[57:26] go ahead. Dr michael on behalf

[57:30] of senators in the interim

[57:32] support of us before thank you.

[57:34] thank you we will now go to

[57:37] nineteen please go ahead.

[57:40] afternoon my name is erica

[57:41] ballantyne with you a local

[57:45] three nine three of the former

[57:45] quite fingers and hvacr

[57:47] technicians at fancards family

[57:48] don't county we represent thirty

[57:50] one hundred members today we

[57:52] stand with the building trades

[57:53] in opposition of sb four unless

[57:57] amended thank you. Thank you

[57:58] line number two twenty seven to

[58:02] twenty seven. Hi my name is sean

[58:03] mcfeely I'm a proud you be

[58:05] volunteer in strong support

[58:06] thank you. Thank you my number.

[58:13] one fifty two. Remembered you a

[58:15] local two forty six fresno

[58:16] plumbers and pipefitters. And we

[58:20] - ten and strong up of that

[58:21] before and that the minute.

[58:26] thank you my number. Forty nine

[58:32] forty two. Yeah that's right

[58:33] weber ironworkers force. Please

[58:36] stand with federal opposite.

[58:41] that's the for which the

[58:43] launchers. Thank you regard the

[58:48] line numbers nine. And will be

[58:49] our last. This. Global six nine.

[58:58] strong opposition. For our

[59:02] partners. Wall they don't hang

[59:05] by. Okay thank you very much of

[59:11] a book. Madam are able to live

[59:13] reached our twenty one I okay.

[59:20] for without. Matter moderate

[59:23] we've out m. We have taken to

[59:26] minutes on my to. Sir we're

[59:28] going to have. We're gonna stop

[59:30] are test to- but they want to

[59:33] thank our- all of our c. Numbers

[59:36] which- will now bring discussion

[59:37] back to remember. To any of our

[59:39] members have any or the would

[59:40] like to make. Senator seyarto.

[59:45] thank you center winner and- hi

[59:48] my appreciate your to in trying

[59:51] to address what is almost an

[59:52] impossible problem for

[59:53] california in- in our housing

[59:56] industries- when you take aways

[1:00:00] owning. Just save. You you

[1:00:04] changes owning the city doesn't

[1:00:06] have any say in it. What happens

[1:00:08] to the rest of their zoning what

[1:00:11] happens to their general plan.

[1:00:12] as as I understand it when I

[1:00:15] worked in local government a

[1:00:17] lot. Once you change zone for

[1:00:20] the zoning for one and made it

[1:00:22] more dancer last dancer added v.

[1:00:24] and all these other things it

[1:00:26] affects the ability of other

[1:00:29] property that is probably zone

[1:00:31] for the same thing. That's

[1:00:34] actually zone for it- to get

[1:00:36] through the process itself- so

[1:00:40] how do you address that if the

[1:00:42] city is not going to be involved

[1:00:45] . So that their general plan.

[1:00:49] all of their elements that are

[1:00:51] part of the general plan don't

[1:00:53] get thrown out of whack. And out

[1:00:55] of whack means in disfavor. With

[1:00:59] that housing commission here in

[1:01:02] california- I thank you for the

[1:01:05] question a couple a couple

[1:01:06] things this is not our

[1:01:08] government cause a quorum court

[1:01:09] throws out of local zoning the

[1:01:11] there is land that may not be

[1:01:13] zoned for residential- that's

[1:01:15] owned by religious institution

[1:01:16] that will now be zoned. For it-

[1:01:19] the bill which is a good and

[1:01:21] this was extensively negotiated

[1:01:23] in governance and finance

[1:01:24] committee with senator mcguire

[1:01:26] who is the chair at the time.

[1:01:28] three years ago- it it there are

[1:01:30] a local height limit- often

[1:01:32] applies or might be local have

[1:01:35] an a plus one if it's in our for

[1:01:38] commercial. Local zoning- it

[1:01:43] hasn't made make some changes to

[1:01:45] particularly for areas that you

[1:01:47] know. The church land might not

[1:01:48] be zoned for residential. But in

[1:01:50] terms of the general or the

[1:01:51] housing element I don't think it

[1:01:53] has any effect. On on the rest

[1:01:55] of it it's a city has owned for

[1:01:57] different things in different

[1:01:59] parts of the city- battle

[1:01:59] remains. This will help cities

[1:02:02] meet the arena. Because we know

[1:02:05] the city sometimes own parcels

[1:02:06] consumers are big fights about

[1:02:08] this about whether a parcel is

[1:02:09] actually realistic right and we

[1:02:12] have a history with which to

[1:02:13] which we tried to move away from

[1:02:15] cities zoning a cemetery for

[1:02:16] high density housing or a- brand

[1:02:18] new target that was as bill two

[1:02:19] years ago for high density

[1:02:21] housing. Sites that we know

[1:02:22] we're never going to get bills-

[1:02:24] we tried to move away from that

[1:02:25] but there's always disputes and

[1:02:27] we know that there are. Even now

[1:02:29] man that's identified that. They

[1:02:30] hope will become available to me

[1:02:32] that may not so this will be

[1:02:34] helpful to cities in meeting

[1:02:36] their the hardest part of arena.

[1:02:38] the their most cities don't even

[1:02:40] meet the market rate arena. But

[1:02:42] almost no city meets are below

[1:02:43] market rate units the hardest

[1:02:45] part to me. This will help

[1:02:46] cities meet. That obligation.

[1:02:49] right yeah and I've heard this a

[1:02:50] lot- in just a three years I've

[1:02:53] been people I've been dealing

[1:02:54] with this. In this legislature

[1:02:56] for more than three years it's

[1:02:58] been five six seven years I see

[1:02:59] old bills that come through. And

[1:03:01] not one of them has been

[1:03:03] successful in dealing with- to

[1:03:04] talking about otherwise we all.

[1:03:11] wouldn't be here- I think. You

[1:03:14] know my issue with bills. Blake

[1:03:16] this. Is that. Here we go. We

[1:03:19] kind of taking bites out local

[1:03:20] ca. I that's the- it's not the

[1:03:22] problem the problem is. Over the

[1:03:24] last. To forty years the state

[1:03:26] has imposed so many regulations

[1:03:28] and such a process to get

[1:03:31] through. That we have. Created a

[1:03:34] situation where our supply. Is

[1:03:36] severely behind the demand. And

[1:03:40] no matter how hard we try and

[1:03:42] what other fixes we do. We see

[1:03:45] we just can't seem to fix that-

[1:03:47] I know court current for

[1:03:50] affordable housing projects.

[1:03:51] that were started when I just

[1:03:53] first got back on the city

[1:03:55] council eight years ago. And

[1:03:57] they're just now getting the

[1:03:59] financing from each cd. To be

[1:04:01] able to start the project so

[1:04:04] that it didn't fix the process.

[1:04:07] whatever that law was that they

[1:04:09] were using to get this process

[1:04:11] going it didn't fix it. What

[1:04:13] needs fixed. Is the state's

[1:04:16] entire process for building

[1:04:19] everything. Because not only is

[1:04:22] the housing falling behind but

[1:04:23] once you build housing once

[1:04:25] you've cleared the path to build

[1:04:27] all the housing. We still have

[1:04:29] roads flood control we have to

[1:04:31] try to attract jobs we need

[1:04:33] water infrastructure commercial

[1:04:35] buildings to support that

[1:04:36] housing. Affordable and safe

[1:04:39] transit lines we need schools

[1:04:41] and all of that is being

[1:04:42] affected by the state's process.

[1:04:45] and none of what we have tried

[1:04:48] to do in the last five years or

[1:04:50] ten years even. Has fix that.

[1:04:53] and so we keep throwing sequel

[1:04:55] exemptions into this project and

[1:04:57] that project. But at the same

[1:05:00] and then nothing's working. And

[1:05:02] so at some point we're gonna

[1:05:04] have to face the fact. That we

[1:05:06] got to put everybody to work

[1:05:08] doing all of those things but

[1:05:09] all of those things are being

[1:05:11] obstructed. By our process if we

[1:05:14] don't address that is a state

[1:05:17] we're never going to solve this

[1:05:18] problem. I'm sure for I first of

[1:05:23] all I. I don't disagree that the

[1:05:25] state's men's puts roadblocks in

[1:05:27] the way right and some of the

[1:05:30] work I've done. Has addressed on

[1:05:31] some of the issues that you've

[1:05:32] that you've reyes I don't

[1:05:34] disagree with what I do disagree

[1:05:35] with is suggest that only the

[1:05:37] state because we know that when

[1:05:39] cities say. You're not allowed

[1:05:41] to build any housing in this

[1:05:42] area where you can build multi

[1:05:44] unit over nocturnal we're gonna

[1:05:46] reject all affordable housing

[1:05:47] there are extractions that

[1:05:49] happen. At the local level two

[1:05:51] unfortunately. We have passed

[1:05:53] streamlining bills no losses

[1:05:54] since I've been here which is a

[1:05:56] little over six years of. That

[1:05:58] have been very successful in-

[1:05:59] you know for example the next to

[1:06:01] we're gonna you're gonna hear

[1:06:03] that there are a for affordable

[1:06:04] housing. The approval time goes

[1:06:05] from several years to several

[1:06:06] months- so- I partially agree

[1:06:09] with you but I partially

[1:06:10] disagree. Right and I understand

[1:06:12] that. But mine be mindful that.

[1:06:15] local agencies especially newer

[1:06:17] cities. Were all made to go

[1:06:20] through an x. Currently

[1:06:21] expensive process doing a

[1:06:23] general plan is a- is a long

[1:06:26] process it takes probably three

[1:06:28] to four or five years sometimes.

[1:06:29] cost millions of dollars for the

[1:06:32] community and it's all based on

[1:06:33] what they're being told by the

[1:06:34] state there general plan has to

[1:06:37] include. And. So they include

[1:06:43] all those things. Then there

[1:06:45] give the bad of gray. That need

[1:06:47] to be in for people to be to

[1:06:48] come in and build. And then we

[1:06:50] tell cities. Hey you guys are

[1:06:52] doing your job. Searches do and

[1:06:54] what we are they were told to

[1:06:55] do. And now we're we're coming

[1:06:57] out- with this exemption in that

[1:06:58] exemption. To tell them that hey

[1:06:59] you know what you guys are doing

[1:07:02] your job you're not letting

[1:07:03] these things through. They

[1:07:04] can't. They can't by law because

[1:07:06] that's when the third element of

[1:07:07] this comes and that's the

[1:07:09] lawsuit that comes at the end of

[1:07:12] the parade. It just stop

[1:07:14] everything. And we if we don't

[1:07:16] fix that we're not going to fix

[1:07:18] this problem and that's I I'm

[1:07:20] I'm kind of tired of. Throwing

[1:07:23] throwing solutions at the

[1:07:27] problem there aren't working.

[1:07:28] because we're not looking at the

[1:07:29] underlying problem site. I

[1:07:31] always use fire service got.

[1:07:33] it's like alejo's above the fire

[1:07:35] and letting it go over it looks

[1:07:37] really cool. But it's not put

[1:07:40] the fire out. We need to aim the

[1:07:42] hose at the right place and

[1:07:44] that's the base of the fire and

[1:07:45] we simply aren't doing that. And

[1:07:47] I understand we keep doing it a

[1:07:48] little here and a little their-

[1:07:50] but we're not doing it otherwise

[1:07:53] everybody would be working.

[1:07:54] because we have so much stuff

[1:07:56] that needs to be done this is

[1:07:58] aiming right at the fire. Press

[1:08:01] well I was a firefighter I'd say

[1:08:03] this is being at the top of the

[1:08:05] flames like preach it you're a-

[1:08:08] assessment. Thank you. There is

[1:08:13] a- thank you centers they are to

[1:08:16] do we any other. Comments

[1:08:19] questions about center to cover

[1:08:20] year please. I don't any any-

[1:08:23] questions I just want to be able

[1:08:26] to frame what I think is an

[1:08:27] unfortunate. Duration and I know

[1:08:30] senator wiener has. Has you know

[1:08:34] grappled with this as well-

[1:08:35] there is no question that we

[1:08:37] have a housing crisis in.

[1:08:39] california I think we all agree

[1:08:41] and what we disagree at that you

[1:08:43] know what's that absolute

[1:08:44] perfect solution there isn't any

[1:08:47] we've got to try to chip away

[1:08:48] little by little. That the

[1:08:51] things that will actually make a

[1:08:53] difference and I really

[1:08:54] appreciate this year- let me

[1:08:56] just say that I've supported

[1:08:58] this bill in the past and I

[1:08:59] really appreciated this year

[1:09:00] the- the religious institutions

[1:09:03] being here because- this is

[1:09:06] going. To provide an

[1:09:08] opportunity. For outreach into

[1:09:11] the community to build housing

[1:09:13] that's desperately needed and in

[1:09:15] communities that may have been

[1:09:18] the most recalcitrant about

[1:09:20] building affordable housing my

[1:09:22] experience serving in local

[1:09:24] government- is that- I'm- being

[1:09:28] the mayor of a blue collar

[1:09:29] community. We built housing

[1:09:32] affordable housing in our

[1:09:33] communities but thirty miles

[1:09:35] away from us twenty miles away

[1:09:37] from us the wealthier

[1:09:38] communities. Abrogated the

[1:09:39] responsibility and did not build

[1:09:42] affordable housing at all. And

[1:09:43] so it really put a lot of

[1:09:46] pressure on those fund that

[1:09:47] represented- I'm from a rural

[1:09:50] agricultural community. You know

[1:09:52] put a lot of pressure on us so

[1:09:54] the more that we can change the

[1:09:57] entire community and to do it

[1:09:57] through- this bill I think it's-

[1:10:00] a really important thing. Let me

[1:10:02] just say that- I'm really sad.

[1:10:07] and- the- at the disagree b. The

[1:10:09] different- unions- I'm I'm I'm

[1:10:14] there with you. By I want. To

[1:10:17] have union protections want to

[1:10:19] make sure we have good paying

[1:10:21] jobs and that we're doing

[1:10:22] everything we can to lift up the

[1:10:24] work- and the workers both

[1:10:28] because- quite frankly a lot of

[1:10:30] these- housing units are are

[1:10:32] going to be starter homes for

[1:10:34] union members to be able to get

[1:10:37] into and build. Build wealth and

[1:10:38] leave something to their

[1:10:39] families and so this is really

[1:10:42] really important. But but the-

[1:10:43] but the battle over the language

[1:10:45] has me you know very concerned-

[1:10:48] I don't. I don't want to be the

[1:10:51] this is a housing bill. And it's

[1:10:53] got some. Huge impacts on the

[1:10:56] labor community but but I want

[1:10:58] to hope that there's a sweet

[1:10:59] spot where we can get to yes and

[1:11:01] so there I think are many of us

[1:11:03] here at the dyess- that want to

[1:11:05] see. The disagreements between

[1:11:08] the trades and the carpenters

[1:11:10] resolve so that we can have a

[1:11:12] happy peace and I'll be here

[1:11:14] together and- hold hands and-

[1:11:16] and move forward I don't want to

[1:11:18] be killing housing bills

[1:11:19] because- we can agree on things

[1:11:22] like I just don't this is such a

[1:11:24] critical issue that- we can't

[1:11:26] wait any longer. And so- I'm

[1:11:29] going to ask them senator wiener

[1:11:31] if he's willing to continue to

[1:11:33] sit at the table and to try to

[1:11:35] work this thing out this comes

[1:11:37] aye. Aye sure the next committee

[1:11:39] that disclosed to and- and like

[1:11:42] I said I don't want to be

[1:11:44] killing housing bills we

[1:11:45] desperately need to work and we

[1:11:46] need the units. So. Center

[1:11:52] wiener. Thank you very much

[1:11:53] center caballero. This one is

[1:11:55] that. First of all on the point

[1:11:58] you made which is a- is that

[1:12:00] this bill. Will significan

[1:12:02] percent of this land is and what

[1:12:03] call high. Community so we're

[1:12:05] not just only put. We're

[1:12:07] spreading and it's going be a

[1:12:08] lower can higher income. Because

[1:12:09] we need a housing- everywhere.

[1:12:11] in terms of the labor split I do

[1:12:14] want to cry there was one caller

[1:12:16] from my- uncertain or union

[1:12:17] leader in the mice. Our

[1:12:19] community who only one- union

[1:12:20] was support this bill numbers

[1:12:22] are that. Card the operating and

[1:12:26] laborers I see you and the

[1:12:28] school and- associates just

[1:12:30] correct the record on the. None

[1:12:37] of none of us like. Labor later

[1:12:39] fights happens. Sometimes in the

[1:12:42] - it's happening here hi mike I

[1:12:44] can aye all to. Trade sponsored

[1:12:46] bill. Last year I also to bill

[1:12:49] last year public work bills with

[1:12:51] skilled workforce. Hi and- it's

[1:12:53] not for me either to be a us but

[1:12:56] I do want to see. Because this

[1:12:58] issue pop up three years ago and

[1:13:00] especially with respect to a

[1:13:01] hundred affordable was the years

[1:13:02] ago. With the products of the sb

[1:13:06] nine nine. For three. Five to

[1:13:08] trades until until in the face

[1:13:10] that I want to resolve this. But

[1:13:12] I want people to the table- so

[1:13:14] we can resolve. And it takes to

[1:13:17] tango- and the trade. Respectful

[1:13:21] have not changed. One inch.

[1:13:28] since .com I withdraw hunter

[1:13:30] three ago and- of twenty- we did

[1:13:32] have slight in a six. With the

[1:13:35] agreement- to the better which

[1:13:37] is called work. I offered

[1:13:40] beginning I suggest to committee

[1:13:41] it ab twenty as six. Kind of

[1:13:43] wrestle like with year and I

[1:13:44] told no that's no low support

[1:13:46] that. Chris I'm just observing-

[1:13:50] we're I am my doors always open

[1:13:51] I met with mr meredith to weeks

[1:13:53] ago. I'm happy to continue

[1:13:54] meeting under the carpenters

[1:13:56] what we're willing to bring

[1:13:57] everyone to the table to try to

[1:13:58] resolve this. In a way that will

[1:14:00] actually get housing bills- but

[1:14:06] it does take two to tango. Thank

[1:14:09] you senator wiener. Us will help

[1:14:12] thank and if you center kabir- I

[1:14:15] wanted to ask senator wiener. Is

[1:14:17] about this bill just so the

[1:14:18] public is informed- can you

[1:14:21] explain the portability- to this

[1:14:23] particular bill. For this bill

[1:14:25] only a 100% below market rate-

[1:14:29] this only applies 2100% below

[1:14:32] below market rate highs so and-

[1:14:34] it can have- a small percentage

[1:14:37] of eighty to a hundred and

[1:14:38] twenty percent. Am I which is

[1:14:40] considered moderate income below

[1:14:41] market rate housing with the

[1:14:43] bulk of the day under eighty

[1:14:45] percent- low very very low

[1:14:47] extremely low the average. Am I

[1:14:49] always must be 80% or lower. We

[1:14:51] also know that because of the

[1:14:53] nature of- the state for the

[1:14:57] housing funding streams as an

[1:14:58] incentive to make sure that you

[1:14:59] have. Some of the very low and

[1:15:01] extremely low- income housing

[1:15:03] and these projects as a big

[1:15:05] financial incentive to do that-

[1:15:07] so we are actually making sure

[1:15:08] that were housing. Other people

[1:15:10] who were in the most desperate

[1:15:11] need. For a but this bill only

[1:15:13] applies to a 100% deed

[1:15:15] restricted below market rate

[1:15:16] housing okay my second question

[1:15:18] was the restricted- and then as

[1:15:20] as far as- it. The conversation

[1:15:24] regarding. The labor disputes- I

[1:15:27] think it's very challenging when

[1:15:29] you know the majority of us do

[1:15:31] you want to support working

[1:15:32] people getting paid fairly and

[1:15:33] much more I know that that is a

[1:15:35] deep deep concern of the larger

[1:15:37] body- this is the housing

[1:15:39] committee and I do just want to

[1:15:40] frankly state. That if there's a

[1:15:43] disagreement we have to

[1:15:44] prioritize affordability. Rate

[1:15:46] and so I do just want to state

[1:15:49] that- I do second- center to

[1:15:51] cover your was concerns and if

[1:15:53] there is a conversation and I do

[1:15:55] believe from both- sites or any

[1:15:57] to be good faith effort to come

[1:15:59] together. Otherwise we will be

[1:16:00] prioritizing affordability right

[1:16:02] and- that is one of the biggest

[1:16:04] concerns that. I have is that we

[1:16:10] are not developing and off low

[1:16:12] and extremely low. How across

[1:16:13] the board. So- I will supporting

[1:16:14] but I was still stressing very

[1:16:17] that- you know affordability is

[1:16:18] very. Important to me but also

[1:16:20] making sure that all all members

[1:16:22] of. Labor are on the same page-

[1:16:25] moving forward hopefully so.

[1:16:27] thank you and that's all my

[1:16:29] questions. Thank you several. We

[1:16:32] also have center cortese

[1:16:34] supposed several senator breaks

[1:16:35] here. Three parties in the

[1:16:39] senator please bear. With the

[1:16:41] manager- I'm just going to make

[1:16:43] a couple calls are. Of the

[1:16:45] author wants to. No although-

[1:16:51] full disclaimer intent to now a

[1:16:53] couple questions so

[1:16:54] particularly- of witnesses and

[1:16:56] those are here to answer

[1:16:58] questions. About work for

[1:17:00] standards- when we get to the

[1:17:01] next bill so I don't wanna be

[1:17:04] redundant. Of basically do this

[1:17:05] twice- but my concern- first of

[1:17:11] all let me put me. Back up to

[1:17:13] submit it and say the senator

[1:17:14] wiener as- the as the author you

[1:17:17] know thank you. For all of your

[1:17:19] work landmark legislation in the

[1:17:22] area of streamlining- and

[1:17:24] working through what just a few

[1:17:25] years ago was. Really

[1:17:27] untouchable topic which is-

[1:17:31] getting that seek work in in the

[1:17:34] use of seek work- in some places

[1:17:36] in some ways as as an obstacle

[1:17:39] to the housing production you

[1:17:40] nice served- at the regional

[1:17:43] level in in our own bay area

[1:17:45] community- working through the

[1:17:47] renewal process I saw you first

[1:17:49] hand how frustrated you were.

[1:17:51] and I know that you're- also a

[1:17:53] personal environmentally

[1:17:54] conscious that you're a

[1:17:55] concerned about the colocation

[1:17:57] or lack there of- of affordable

[1:18:00] housing and jobs which is. A

[1:18:02] tremendous concern in you know

[1:18:03] in our own area city so one

[1:18:05] eight knowledge all that as well

[1:18:07] as- the obviously the- the

[1:18:09] excellent work to your committee

[1:18:12] stuff. Does in- assisting you in

[1:18:15] in producing this work product.

[1:18:17] I've relied upon the myself at

[1:18:19] times over the last couple of

[1:18:21] years so thank you for all that-

[1:18:27] similar to- as- bureaus. Of

[1:18:30] course- know you will expect

[1:18:33] this is a maybe we've talked

[1:18:34] about it- I'm a co author on

[1:18:36] this bill I call through the

[1:18:38] bill in the whole. You know that

[1:18:39] we would be able to through the

[1:18:41] course of the session here get

[1:18:43] to the right place in terms of.

[1:18:45] of work for standards- I do. I

[1:18:51] believe that it takes. You know

[1:18:55] two to tango so to speak- but it

[1:18:58] would say the same time and it

[1:19:00] said the says as a labor chaired

[1:19:03] different committee different

[1:19:03] jurisdiction- that that's just

[1:19:05] not. That doesn't fall solely on

[1:19:08] from the building trades council

[1:19:11] it falls on. Both parties coming

[1:19:14] forward sitting down. In the in

[1:19:17] hashing through. What doesn't

[1:19:19] work or what won't work here or

[1:19:21] what hasn't worked in the past-

[1:19:23] in a note your concern is. A

[1:19:26] concern about what hasn't worked

[1:19:27] in the past got to try something

[1:19:29] different I think that's- very

[1:19:31] much a carpenter's concern as

[1:19:34] well- that said. For me

[1:19:37] fortunately during the course

[1:19:40] of. Of the run of this bill- the

[1:19:46] issues about. The lack of this

[1:19:48] language in in my humble opinion

[1:19:50] again that's for sure of labor

[1:19:53] committing somebody gets

[1:19:53] immersed in this stuff day in

[1:19:56] and day out- the current

[1:19:58] language doesn't drive

[1:20:00] apprenticeship- been and isn't

[1:20:02] going to lead to a trained

[1:20:04] workforce. It obviously won't

[1:20:05] lead to application of a trained

[1:20:07] workforce but won't even lead to

[1:20:09] the creation or the building of

[1:20:11] a trained workforce in the

[1:20:12] state. Which the last time I

[1:20:14] checked was lowest per capita of

[1:20:16] all fifty states- in

[1:20:18] apprenticeship programs in

[1:20:21] general not just in

[1:20:21] construction. So that has to be

[1:20:24] resolved so that were in

[1:20:25] integrity with the values that.

[1:20:28] it leaves my caucus holds your

[1:20:30] caucus or caucus holds a going

[1:20:33] forward- because that's not what

[1:20:35] we stand for not what we stand

[1:20:38] for in terms of workforce

[1:20:38] development- it taking a step

[1:20:40] back is. Is does not okay- so

[1:20:44] really. All sides needed come

[1:20:46] forward in a dress all sites are

[1:20:49] not putting that on the author

[1:20:50] se but I do think it's an

[1:20:53] unfortunate. Circumstance of the

[1:20:54] way. We operate as a legislature

[1:20:57] those rules have been here long

[1:20:59] before any of us. That we would

[1:21:01] have a bill whose primary

[1:21:03] contention is labor standards.

[1:21:06] coming because because it's

[1:21:09] also. A very significant housing

[1:21:11] bills but whose primary

[1:21:13] contention is not the housing

[1:21:14] piece in the production piece

[1:21:16] but the labor peace starting

[1:21:17] off. In the in the non labor

[1:21:21] committee and then with all due

[1:21:22] respect to center cut the owes

[1:21:24] report work in government

[1:21:25] finances going their- where. The

[1:21:29] committee staff in in a people

[1:21:31] who focus jurisdiction only on

[1:21:33] issues or are not. Spent not

[1:21:36] spent fifteen or twenty years

[1:21:38] twenty five years the working

[1:21:40] through these issues in a in a

[1:21:41] professional manner so. That

[1:21:44] also is not on the author or

[1:21:46] this committee of I think it's

[1:21:48] an unfortunate circumstance that

[1:21:49] we have to proceed based on our

[1:21:51] own rules and rules the way

[1:21:53] rules has has a sign bills. In a

[1:21:55] way that the deep seas issues

[1:21:57] hanging up before they're in.

[1:21:59] really the proper forum- in the

[1:22:03] proper technical- for a in the

[1:22:07] proper. To get a he know in a

[1:22:10] way that I think would be

[1:22:12] singular in consistent with all

[1:22:14] of our values- consistent with

[1:22:18] all of our values is not to have

[1:22:21] multiple. Multiple standards. On

[1:22:25] residential construction work

[1:22:26] for so frankly work construction

[1:22:28] work force in general. At times

[1:22:31] last year. Through no fault of

[1:22:33] anyone here. We had up to five

[1:22:38] different versions of. But

[1:22:40] workforce standards in different

[1:22:42] bills being proposed- in moving

[1:22:46] through the legislature. Again

[1:22:49] without any real attempt to

[1:22:51] consolidate those into a

[1:22:52] statement of what our values

[1:22:55] really are in that regard a

[1:22:56] singular universal standard that

[1:23:00] would apply to this kind of

[1:23:02] work- so as center caballero

[1:23:04] said anything center will have a

[1:23:06] - all. Alluded to at least a one

[1:23:09] per words into her mouth. But my

[1:23:11] vote. Would not be my vote on

[1:23:15] the floor. If we somehow arrived

[1:23:18] all the way to the floor-

[1:23:20] without still having addressed

[1:23:22] all these issues senate

[1:23:23] certainly willing to do my part-

[1:23:26] it's not somebody else's work

[1:23:27] it's all of our work but it has

[1:23:30] to be resolved as far as I'm

[1:23:32] concerned. Before we get to the

[1:23:33] final day of reckoning because

[1:23:35] otherwise I think it puts us in

[1:23:37] the spot. Where people like me

[1:23:38] of saying it's okay it's okay to

[1:23:41] have to not know what. What are

[1:23:43] standard really is. In you know

[1:23:47] to move forward bills that

[1:23:49] frankly are at odds with each

[1:23:50] other- maybe your bill my bill

[1:23:53] for example last year was two

[1:23:54] other bills that were at odds

[1:23:56] with each other. We approve them

[1:23:58] both as if. As if. Multiple

[1:24:01] standards- okay in something

[1:24:05] that's- so vital. To creating

[1:24:07] equity in a california for all.

[1:24:10] so since I said more than I

[1:24:12] thought it would on this bill I

[1:24:14] will save us next bill but I do-

[1:24:17] you know we- have a couple

[1:24:18] questions we get. To for twenty

[1:24:22] three to ask them- and some of

[1:24:24] the way. Thank you for your work

[1:24:27] . B. And I've today course as is

[1:24:30] - but we forward to resolution.

[1:24:33] thank you you want to stress

[1:24:35] when. First first committee is

[1:24:38] literally the first time this

[1:24:39] for ever been and committee.

[1:24:43] great resolve things but first.

[1:24:45] with a twenty who law year it I

[1:24:49] don't think that covers all

[1:24:50] until. August by if my memory.

[1:24:53] serves caballero deeply.

[1:24:56] involved in and I it took a

[1:24:59] right if we can get it resolved

[1:25:01] the flood script I'm I to wanna

[1:25:03] . Since that when this first

[1:25:05] came up three years ago through

[1:25:07] days. I was in the hundred

[1:25:08] office. This like let's to reach

[1:25:09] this and in not. Hasn't move

[1:25:14] since on and I. Mister ability I

[1:25:17] can tell some you have change

[1:25:19] your to try anti takes whatever

[1:25:21] to. They want where the market-

[1:25:23] but you know it it it makes hard

[1:25:25] to go. I'm me I want to this my

[1:25:27] this. Senator place for. Thank

[1:25:32] you. Thank you for the public

[1:25:34] comments from my call and also

[1:25:36] to the for come and speak today

[1:25:38] and express your opinion. And I

[1:25:39] also just to thank the- the

[1:25:40] author senate wiener for this

[1:25:42] bill I think. Five very much

[1:25:43] support this bill I a when I

[1:25:45] first saw it and heard the

[1:25:46] concept it seemed to make so

[1:25:49] much sense to me when I. Think

[1:25:50] about my community which I came

[1:25:51] from being the mayor of there

[1:25:52] are so many faith communities-

[1:25:54] that. Would be interested in

[1:25:55] this and they're providing a

[1:25:56] 100% affordable for their

[1:25:58] communities so it's a way to

[1:25:59] build community- from within a

[1:26:02] very local can control type of

[1:26:05] structure. And so I think when

[1:26:07] I. Think about why this is so

[1:26:09] needed it really comes back to

[1:26:10] the reality that the low housing

[1:26:12] supply in the state which is

[1:26:14] estimated to be two point five

[1:26:15] million units a million of them

[1:26:17] should be need to be affordable

[1:26:19] and the next. Eight to ten

[1:26:21] years- that that problem the low

[1:26:23] the lack of supply is really a

[1:26:25] major driver of our other

[1:26:26] problems in the state like

[1:26:29] homelessness. And a lack of

[1:26:31] upward mobility people's ability

[1:26:33] to access opportunity also- the

[1:26:36] mega commutes that then-

[1:26:38] contribute to climate change. A

[1:26:40] whole bunch of problems that

[1:26:42] really. In my mind swirl around

[1:26:45] this problem of a critically los

[1:26:47] housing supply. So when you-

[1:26:50] when this bill and you also-

[1:26:52] referred to it it could unlock

[1:26:55] thirty eight thousand acres of

[1:26:56] land. And I think that that

[1:26:58] seems like. A really tremendous

[1:27:00] potential to do a lot in our

[1:27:01] state and I'm- I go back to the-

[1:27:04] accountability and oversight

[1:27:05] hearings that we had just. Last

[1:27:07] week about it in this committee-

[1:27:10] and the reality is that housing

[1:27:13] creation remains stagnant. So

[1:27:15] even though in the state we've

[1:27:16] had some really great bills that

[1:27:18] have created streamlining. And

[1:27:19] some bright spots like the

[1:27:21] number eighty is have- gone up

[1:27:23] by a factor of ten but overall

[1:27:27] across the state the great ab

[1:27:28] show that were still. So we're

[1:27:30] real we're not making the

[1:27:31] progress we need to if we really

[1:27:33] want to- deal with homelessness

[1:27:34] in a substantive way and- and-

[1:27:37] the middle class- housing

[1:27:39] affordability crisis that we

[1:27:40] see. So I agrees my colleagues

[1:27:43] that I hope these disagreements

[1:27:44] get resolved with labor the

[1:27:46] labor factions and it's very

[1:27:48] painful- to be to be talking to

[1:27:51] your friends and- to see these

[1:27:53] disagreements and- to hope that

[1:27:55] there's a way to find that

[1:27:56] middle ground it is. Clearly

[1:27:58] true that you everybody needs to

[1:28:00] come to the table in good faith

[1:28:01] in order to find those places.

[1:28:03] but really focusing on the need

[1:28:05] for us to create the housing as

[1:28:06] a top priority and to find- fair

[1:28:10] standards that also create good

[1:28:12] jobs and allow people to access.

[1:28:14] a middle class lifestyle you

[1:28:15] know all of those things are

[1:28:16] really what we're going for I

[1:28:18] think we should all share those

[1:28:20] values. And so the question is

[1:28:21] how do we get there and hi- have

[1:28:23] every faith in all of the

[1:28:24] negotiating partners that will

[1:28:26] be able to but I also just want

[1:28:28] to say thank you and I'm excited

[1:28:30] to support this bill today.

[1:28:33] thank you- senators- breaks here

[1:28:35] I do have a couple of comments-

[1:28:38] actually more questions. I

[1:28:40] understand that we and

[1:28:41] california is one of the leading

[1:28:44] statements. California is one of

[1:28:46] the leading space when it comes

[1:28:47] to- many areas sleeper- berman

[1:28:53] to laws and you name it we have

[1:28:56] it- I had the privilege to sit

[1:28:57] on labor- committee. These past

[1:29:01] two years with center cortese.

[1:29:03] and I think popped into my head

[1:29:07] with regards to- some of the

[1:29:08] comments and concerns that we

[1:29:11] saw with bills are going to

[1:29:11] committee and- and I'm not sure

[1:29:14] if. Center to you would like to

[1:29:16] comment or not but- it was with

[1:29:18] regards to enforcement. And I

[1:29:22] know that this bill is trying to

[1:29:25] address some of these

[1:29:27] conservative from some of the

[1:29:28] safety concerns- but with

[1:29:30] regards to enforcement- how.

[1:29:35] what elements are components you

[1:29:36] have here. Yeah they've cards

[1:29:38] within that scope. Yes

[1:29:43] absolutely it we there is a in

[1:29:45] the can and with wait staff.

[1:29:47] clinical plenty of ca. That do

[1:29:50] follow the law and to the right

[1:29:51] thing for the workers they're

[1:29:53] all. We have we stuffed issues

[1:29:56] in this. And so this bill

[1:29:58] requires a payment of prevailing

[1:30:00] wage the same prevailing wage

[1:30:02] that you would get in a skilled

[1:30:04] workforce situation. Plus non

[1:30:05] health in and the other

[1:30:07] requirements- and then if there

[1:30:10] is a violation the labor

[1:30:11] commissioner tim force or the

[1:30:13] person whose. Wages of

[1:30:15] installing can enforce it- and

[1:30:18] but I also want to stress that

[1:30:19] for that enforcement sb there

[1:30:21] are this bill is voluntary.

[1:30:24] right now no one no builder a

[1:30:26] church anyone is going is

[1:30:28] required to utilize this bill if

[1:30:31] they choose to opt in and

[1:30:32] utilize a spell. And they all

[1:30:34] these provisions including

[1:30:36] enforcement- applied they. Could

[1:30:43] decide to do it. The l. Way and

[1:30:46] close to reserve infancy cal.

[1:30:46] and have a sequel los in and

[1:30:48] every else and by if they choose

[1:30:50] to do it- it'll committee or the

[1:30:53] underpaid- your- okay so the are

[1:30:56] . In there is will protect or

[1:30:57] they have recall. If something

[1:30:59] were to happen correct on that

[1:31:01] and it also allows to have

[1:31:03] options and choices for those

[1:31:05] builders for the- local. Okay so

[1:31:08] having said that. I believe we

[1:31:12] have. This will help you with

[1:31:14] like to yes sign I'd come of

[1:31:16] this. Bahrainis and secretary

[1:31:23] what to. Call the roll. Senate

[1:31:29] bill for about win the motion is

[1:31:31] to pass and river to come and

[1:31:32] governor and finance. Wiener

[1:31:34] right wiener hi the troubled by

[1:31:37] the troubled by blix. Hi click

[1:31:40] here hi caballero. Capital hi

[1:31:44] partisi partisi hi my- patea

[1:31:48] they are to. Zero two no skinner

[1:31:55] . Number bob. Bob hi. This is

[1:31:59] the world will open here we have

[1:32:02] a sixty one and we're going hold

[1:32:05] the role open for or at members.

[1:32:06] said wiener with july to with

[1:32:08] your sex bill as four three.

[1:32:10] thank you very much financial

[1:32:11] and call and thank for your- is

[1:32:13] a robust. Today I know presents

[1:32:15] in a bill for three which the

[1:32:17] sunset on well I want to tell.

[1:32:19] most successful health laws.

[1:32:20] which is senate bill thirty. And

[1:32:25] . Which is a with the for. Bill

[1:32:28] that I and to ponder sworn day I

[1:32:30] was in the- in twenty six- in

[1:32:32] this build not and way to local

[1:32:34] zoning at all. But it provides

[1:32:36] us approval. In cities are

[1:32:38] falling short of their reason

[1:32:40] housing of such goal and it

[1:32:41] doesn't by income. So you can a

[1:32:43] city becomes strained. Only in

[1:32:45] the categories where it's

[1:32:46] falling short of its goals the

[1:32:47] purpose of sb thirty five and

[1:32:49] that's also as before twenty

[1:32:51] three it's to help cities are

[1:32:53] falling short catch up and meet

[1:32:56] their- our- we've had extensive

[1:32:57] discussions today about the

[1:32:58] profound of shortage- sb thirty

[1:33:01] five- went into effect in twenty

[1:33:03] eighteen it was a slow. Start as

[1:33:05] is often the case of new housing

[1:33:07] bills- and then started

[1:33:08] accelerating almost nearly

[1:33:11] twenty thousand new homes. Have

[1:33:12] either been streamlined or I'm

[1:33:14] process to streamline under sb

[1:33:16] thirty five today hi my city of

[1:33:18] san francisco three thousand.

[1:33:20] new homes hi it's been a very

[1:33:22] successful and has dramatically

[1:33:24] reduced the approval time it is

[1:33:26] primarily. Benefitted below

[1:33:29] market rate housing about 75% of

[1:33:31] the of the units- we have- made

[1:33:36] some changes to the bill to make

[1:33:38] sure that the- mixing com

[1:33:40] element is more- successful- and

[1:33:43] so I'm sure and we just talked

[1:33:45] about some of the labor

[1:33:47] standards and perhaps a little

[1:33:47] stunned. Again so colleagues- sb

[1:33:52] thirty five is a it really is I

[1:33:54] think one of our bedrock housing

[1:33:55] laws that expires in a couple

[1:33:57] years we want to remove the

[1:33:58] sunset. Now because people were.

[1:34:02] cities and builders planned

[1:34:03] years in advance- and we don't

[1:34:06] want to wait until the last

[1:34:08] minute. To decide if this bill

[1:34:10] is going to expire that would be

[1:34:11] harmful to the bility of cities

[1:34:12] and builders- to plan five as

[1:34:16] with the last bill- we've

[1:34:18] already had some conversations.

[1:34:26] with the building trades about

[1:34:27] with his bob dot two meetings so

[1:34:30] far. Continue to hope that we be

[1:34:31] able to get to a road. And I

[1:34:33] respect ask. For your I. Boats.

[1:34:36] with you today- tested and- his

[1:34:38] brown solving off of new cal

[1:34:40] carp union. And- you my open

[1:34:42] president of novan about.

[1:34:44] development thank you. Thank you

[1:34:46] senator wiener now move on to

[1:34:49] would and- or I get afternoon

[1:34:50] chair in committee member.

[1:34:51] honored to be here today-

[1:34:53] strongly should- senate bill

[1:34:55] twenty. You know we arts talk

[1:34:56] about a lot we are a serious.

[1:34:58] that housing production- instead

[1:35:01] . I know secret about that at

[1:35:02] every income level what's going

[1:35:04] on at the end house what's going

[1:35:06] a lack workforce housing

[1:35:07] affordable housing but a housing

[1:35:09] and all income levels. There's

[1:35:10] another crisis going on in

[1:35:14] residential. We look at the

[1:35:14] residential industry primarily

[1:35:16] what frame multi family type

[1:35:18] three if you like construction

[1:35:19] the type house we mostly need

[1:35:22] produced. There's over three

[1:35:23] hundred thousand nonunion

[1:35:24] workers in. That work force

[1:35:29] currently. And they are

[1:35:30] exploited talking a little bit.

[1:35:32] and that work force- is not been

[1:35:34] organized we intend to go out

[1:35:37] and with the tools- in this bill

[1:35:39] has the strongest labor

[1:35:40] enforcement language. Of any

[1:35:42] bill we can find or any law

[1:35:44] throughout the county country so

[1:35:45] subtly pervading wages health

[1:35:47] care requirements opportunity

[1:35:49] for friendship but also the

[1:35:50] strongest labor force language

[1:35:51] empowering labor management

[1:35:52] committees to bring justice to

[1:35:54] those jobs. The reality is-

[1:35:57] right now only one in seven

[1:35:59] traits workers in the state of

[1:36:01] california qualify under skilled

[1:36:02] and trained in the residential

[1:36:04] industry. Maybe one in ten and

[1:36:07] of your large residential

[1:36:08] projects so this is not from

[1:36:11] more the carpenters are coming

[1:36:12] from some by having a fight.

[1:36:14] with anyone in the labor

[1:36:15] movement it's about those

[1:36:17] workers out there and it's about

[1:36:18] production- sb thirty five

[1:36:20] itself very successful bill

[1:36:21] shows a clearly. The primary

[1:36:23] success sb thirty five required

[1:36:25] prevailing wages to be paid for

[1:36:27] affordable housing production

[1:36:29] below market rate production-

[1:36:31] currently there are. Maybe one

[1:36:33] or two projects will require

[1:36:34] skilled and trained but nothing

[1:36:35] is moved yet no housing is

[1:36:37] happen. So again when it comes

[1:36:40] down to it what we're looking at

[1:36:41] is we will not support any labor

[1:36:46] . Stance refill our scrushy

[1:36:47] neri. We have every into with

[1:36:49] the it's our prime purpose as a

[1:36:50] labor organization construction

[1:36:51] to reach out and help those

[1:36:52] workers pull up into the union

[1:36:55] flag family. We see that

[1:36:57] strongly as pro labor pro union

[1:37:00] standards that are also pro

[1:37:02] housing production again in an

[1:37:04] industry. Than unfortunately

[1:37:07] overall has been ignored. The

[1:37:09] carpenters union is actually the

[1:37:11] largest footprint many labor

[1:37:12] union in the residential

[1:37:14] industry- we have a third of the

[1:37:16] registered apprentices out

[1:37:17] there. And overall all crafts we

[1:37:20] have the most amount skilled and

[1:37:21] trained certified workers it's

[1:37:23] easy to track the numbers- you

[1:37:26] know through elam to send

[1:37:27] everything else but also can the

[1:37:29] d. A. S. Graduation rates so

[1:37:30] again we are absolutely all in.

[1:37:33] for apprenticeship an

[1:37:33] opportunity. But those workers

[1:37:36] that are out there now and we do

[1:37:37] need to increase the work force

[1:37:39] upwards eighty thousand workers

[1:37:40] per year so we not only need the

[1:37:42] current nine you workforce

[1:37:43] residential. We need to grow

[1:37:45] that and grow opportunity. But

[1:37:47] we cannot leave that work force

[1:37:49] out and we need to produce

[1:37:50] housing fast. So with the

[1:37:53] platforms to go out bring

[1:37:55] workers rights on those jobs.

[1:37:56] and grow its the organizing

[1:37:58] opportunity of a lifetime for

[1:38:00] any labor organization. Again

[1:38:02] whether be vying to ensure not

[1:38:04] skilled and trained will exclude

[1:38:06] those dire work for workers and

[1:38:08] will actually screwed about a

[1:38:10] hundred thousand. Union members

[1:38:11] currently in the state of

[1:38:12] california we can't afford that.

[1:38:14] so we appreciate your support on

[1:38:16] this. Remember those workers

[1:38:17] remember we need for you to

[1:38:18] housing to bring solutions to

[1:38:20] our state we strongly support

[1:38:23] this bill thank you. Thank you

[1:38:25] sir. Do you have any other. With

[1:38:26] assistance. Yes coming forward.

[1:38:37] good afternoon senate housing

[1:38:39] committee and senator wiener

[1:38:40] thank you for the opportunity

[1:38:41] speech today my name is the mon

[1:38:43] novin I am the president and

[1:38:45] founder of novan development. We

[1:38:47] are a mission driven affordable

[1:38:48] and workforce housing developer

[1:38:51] I'm in the state of california

[1:38:53] we've got approximately fourteen

[1:38:55] projects in over six hundred

[1:38:56] units in the pipeline- serving a

[1:38:58] broad range of incomes. I

[1:39:00] created a novin developments- to

[1:39:03] focus on missing middle housing

[1:39:04] workforce housing is we're very

[1:39:06] much interested in figuring out

[1:39:07] how to make mixed income work as

[1:39:09] you know mostly bills and-

[1:39:11] funding is focused on very low

[1:39:13] and low income housing however

[1:39:14] the majority of our population

[1:39:15] is in the missing middle and so-

[1:39:18] were very keenly aware of the

[1:39:19] of. Sb thirty five reviews it on

[1:39:21] two projects- and neither of

[1:39:24] them would have been approved

[1:39:25] without sb thirty five in fact

[1:39:27] we had a- council members- in a

[1:39:30] political environment- working

[1:39:33] to- use a small you know section

[1:39:36] of the bill that allows for a

[1:39:38] council oversight hearing. To

[1:39:40] basically over derail our

[1:39:41] project and stop it from getting

[1:39:43] approved- and so it wasn't it

[1:39:45] was with the help of the

[1:39:47] carpenters union. Him be law.

[1:39:49] act's housing accountability

[1:39:51] unit and sb thirty five that we

[1:39:53] eventually. Got housing approved

[1:39:56] on a site that was entitled for

[1:39:58] housing- so it's a very useful

[1:40:00] building wouldn't who are

[1:40:01] projects would have happened

[1:40:02] without it- it was through this

[1:40:04] implementation that it revealed

[1:40:05] some of the challenges and I

[1:40:07] think some of the improvements

[1:40:09] in sb thirty five- particularly

[1:40:11] around the use for mixed. Income

[1:40:13] housing the labor standards as

[1:40:14] written or more stringent for.

[1:40:17] mixed income projects were let's

[1:40:18] say only half of the project is

[1:40:20] receiving state subsidy. The

[1:40:22] other half is privately finance

[1:40:23] and- labor standards are way

[1:40:25] more difficult to meet so it it

[1:40:27] naturally moves people or

[1:40:29] developers into. Bill building a

[1:40:32] 100% affordable housing projects

[1:40:33] because- you're able to leverage

[1:40:38] . The funding for the entire.

[1:40:39] and the cost is lower and so-

[1:40:41] the whole heartedly agreed

[1:40:42] senator cortese there should be

[1:40:43] a single standard across- this

[1:40:45] bill for whether it's mixed

[1:40:47] income or- if it's a 100%

[1:40:50] affordable housing project I

[1:40:51] think that'll- help to

[1:40:52] streamlining create. Missing

[1:40:54] middle housing because it's not

[1:40:55] an either or it's an anti and we

[1:40:57] need. A deeply affordable

[1:40:59] housing but we also need missing

[1:41:01] middle housing- other challenges

[1:41:03] that the council oversight

[1:41:04] hearing I think this makes some

[1:41:06] great changes to that- so it's

[1:41:07] not misused- and then the fact

[1:41:10] that it streamlines the print

[1:41:11] versions permanently so that we

[1:41:13] have access to the streamlined

[1:41:14] process beyond twenty twenty

[1:41:17] five is a critical changes that

[1:41:19] we support- ultimately sb. Four

[1:41:21] twenty three also replaces

[1:41:23] restrictive hiring rules with

[1:41:24] high road labor standards for

[1:41:26] all construction workers- and-

[1:41:31] again you know I think- our

[1:41:33] example of our project- the

[1:41:35] skilled and trained workforce

[1:41:36] requirements. Really didn't work

[1:41:39] out and we had to take a project

[1:41:40] that started out as fifty fifty

[1:41:42] affordable housing and turn it

[1:41:44] into a 100% affordable housing

[1:41:46] project- total timidly make it.

[1:41:47] viable so with that- again

[1:41:51] strongly urge you to support-

[1:41:53] this bill today and- happy to

[1:41:56] take any questions thank you for

[1:41:57] your time. Thank you very much

[1:42:00] we're going to hear from

[1:42:03] witnesses in support here in

[1:42:05] room. Twelve hundred. Madam

[1:42:11] chair scott cover about half of

[1:42:12] the construction employers

[1:42:14] association in support thank you

[1:42:17] . Okay I'm terry members karen

[1:42:19] laying on behalf of san

[1:42:20] francisco mayor london breed in

[1:42:22] support thank you. Medicare's

[1:42:25] members michael gunning with

[1:42:26] light house publication airs. On

[1:42:28] behalf was for habitat for

[1:42:30] humanity sand hill property's

[1:42:32] build costs said united way

[1:42:34] greater la thank you. Says

[1:42:38] rodriguez- we need housing now a

[1:42:40] carpenters local one fifty two

[1:42:42] member- I live in stockton

[1:42:45] california selma king county. I

[1:42:47] am since support of sb four two

[1:42:51] three thank you. Good afternoon

[1:42:55] my name is laura drastic I'm a

[1:42:57] field representative I'm out of

[1:42:59] the nor cal carpenters union I

[1:43:01] am also proud member of local.

[1:43:04] union four oh five san jose

[1:43:05] california I am is in support of

[1:43:09] four to three. For dr

[1:43:12] sharecroppers local six oh five

[1:43:13] out of monterey county I'm here

[1:43:15] in support of- s. B. Thirty

[1:43:18] forty three thanks very much.

[1:43:21] number matthew miller marco

[1:43:23] carpenters- member. Local ninety

[1:43:26] sixty livermore I live in

[1:43:27] burlingame in minnesota and we

[1:43:29] need affordable housing on the

[1:43:31] peninsula I'm from. I'm fortune

[1:43:34] to live on the peninsula my

[1:43:36] brothers and sisters cannot

[1:43:37] afford to live up there thank

[1:43:39] you. Venture it happens

[1:43:43] carpenters local two seventeen

[1:43:45] nor cal carpenters union we

[1:43:46] represents san matteo county and

[1:43:48] we are in strong support of

[1:43:51] senate bill four twenty three

[1:43:52] thank you for. Good afternoon

[1:43:56] d'amico's carpenters local seven

[1:43:59] fifty one addison- my county

[1:44:00] base there and- representing

[1:44:03] their members and- we are in

[1:44:04] strong support of sb four twenty

[1:44:08] three thank you. Good afternoon

[1:44:12] show majority companies local

[1:44:14] twenty two business agents are

[1:44:16] francisco- northcutt carpenters

[1:44:17] union clout I stand in support

[1:44:20] of- for twenty three thank you.

[1:44:25] good afternoon my name's kyle

[1:44:26] swarms of a member of local

[1:44:28] forty six from a representative

[1:44:29] of carpenters local seven fifty

[1:44:32] one thirty five one eighty. And

[1:44:34] one fifty to cover members up in

[1:44:35] humboldt ollie north of san

[1:44:37] francisco and I'm here in favor

[1:44:39] of sp four twenty three thank

[1:44:41] you. Abram d. As a ten ph and

[1:44:45] speak on behalf of my colleagues

[1:44:47] at all home in the silicon

[1:44:48] valley home action fun in strong

[1:44:50] support of this before twenty

[1:44:51] three. Alex revell equipment and

[1:44:55] housing regional for the housing

[1:44:57] developer we're in support of sb

[1:44:59] four twenty three. Selecting

[1:45:04] with the silicon valley

[1:45:05] leadership group in support. By

[1:45:07] the merging with inner city law

[1:45:08] center where skid row's pro bono

[1:45:10] legal service fighter we serve

[1:45:12] folks for homeless and at risk

[1:45:14] of homelessness we are very

[1:45:14] proud to support and sponsor sb

[1:45:18] four twenty three. Brian shields

[1:45:21] power drivers local thirty four

[1:45:23] cover not northern forty six

[1:45:24] counties- probably support sb

[1:45:27] forty three. Madam chair members

[1:45:32] of the committee your then put

[1:45:33] in a kind of a hard a proc I'm

[1:45:36] happy california b. As a proud

[1:45:37] co sponsor in support of sb four

[1:45:40] twenty three thank you so much.

[1:45:45] hello again of two religious

[1:45:46] covers local twenty to thirty

[1:45:48] six out of oakland. Strong

[1:45:50] support of this bill thank you.

[1:45:55] good afternoon shawn he by proud

[1:45:56] member of no cal carpenters

[1:45:57] union five oh five in santa cruz

[1:45:59] santa cruz county in strong

[1:46:00] support of us before. Twenty

[1:46:06] three. Good afternoon chair hang

[1:46:07] committee members my name's john

[1:46:09] bill perry of member of

[1:46:10] carpenters local one eighty in

[1:46:12] solano county a resident of fact

[1:46:14] will strongly support this. Bill

[1:46:16] for twenty three thank. Susan

[1:46:21] setter home a member of san

[1:46:22] francisco you me and a resident

[1:46:25] of low income supportive housing

[1:46:27] . And a mother of millennial

[1:46:29] trying to find housing in san

[1:46:31] jose I strongly support this.

[1:46:35] wearing a white with the

[1:46:36] california housing consortium

[1:46:37] proud to be a co sponsor of this

[1:46:39] critical piece of legislation

[1:46:40] urge your support today. Hello

[1:46:43] sam awesome executive director

[1:46:45] of mission housing development

[1:46:45] corporation a nonprofit

[1:46:47] affordable housing developer I'm

[1:46:48] here representing bridge housing

[1:46:50] mercy housing the tenderloin

[1:46:52] housing clinic john stewart

[1:46:53] corporation we are in strong

[1:46:55] support among us we have

[1:46:56] delivered thousands upon

[1:46:57] thousands of affordable housing.

[1:46:59] units because of sb thirty five

[1:47:02] so please extent thank you. Hi

[1:47:05] laura foote executive director

[1:47:07] of the in the action and mom to

[1:47:09] freddie fog mas this is the

[1:47:11] first housing committee meeting-

[1:47:13] but probably not as last. And I

[1:47:15] ask you to build housing for

[1:47:17] this generation and the next

[1:47:19] one- in strong support. A

[1:47:22] little. Good afternoon sharon

[1:47:24] members jordan crimes on behalf

[1:47:25] of green built alliance for an

[1:47:27] environmental nonprofit serving

[1:47:28] the nine county bay area in

[1:47:31] strong support today thank you

[1:47:32] so much. Hello alex melendrez

[1:47:36] city of san bruno I work in the

[1:47:38] action I am also a member of

[1:47:40] peninsula for everyone I am in

[1:47:41] strong support of sb four twenty

[1:47:44] three thank you. Good afternoon

[1:47:48] alley say berman here on behalf

[1:47:50] of the housing action coalition

[1:47:52] up on it as I have and last but

[1:47:54] not least south bay m. B. Thank

[1:47:56] you so much and- in strong

[1:47:58] support of course. Good

[1:48:01] afternoon centers luis mante

[1:48:03] with bury council we represent

[1:48:04] about three hundred and thirty

[1:48:06] of the bay area's largest

[1:48:08] employers here in strong support

[1:48:10] of extending sb thirty five

[1:48:11] today thank you. Good afternoon

[1:48:14] turn members my name is rapha

[1:48:16] sonnenfeld with hot indiana and

[1:48:18] I'm here in strong support of

[1:48:20] this bill on behalf of grow the

[1:48:23] richmond. Mountain the mountain

[1:48:26] - also on forever no neighbor

[1:48:29] and insulet forever why progress

[1:48:31] in the valley san. Emb santokh

[1:48:32] in be santa rosa emb loco b. Has

[1:48:36] bay. Southside ford berman

[1:48:38] advice. And fremont for everyone

[1:48:42] thank you. Rauner let carbon

[1:48:45] local one eighty support thank

[1:48:47] you. Richard burns carpenters

[1:48:51] local two one three strong

[1:48:53] support thank you very much

[1:48:55] really appreciate your time

[1:48:56] thank you. Brian o'connell napa

[1:49:00] resident and how to radio strong

[1:49:03] support thank you. Good

[1:49:06] afternoon assembled from

[1:49:08] southwest mount states regional

[1:49:09] council carper's local seven

[1:49:11] twenty one. Look at we are

[1:49:12] california and we strongly

[1:49:13] support s. B. Four twenty three

[1:49:16] thank you. Good afternoon madam

[1:49:20] chair and committee members

[1:49:22] maria coronado live in burbank

[1:49:23] california proud member of local

[1:49:26] three two three and we're in

[1:49:27] strong support of this bill.

[1:49:30] april atkins business rep local

[1:49:32] twenty two san francisco in

[1:49:33] strong support of. Four twenty

[1:49:39] three. Anastas macfarlane coming

[1:49:40] as legal entities solano county

[1:49:41] in support of this bill thanks.

[1:49:45] good afternoon judge frawley's-

[1:49:47] president seven thirteen and

[1:49:49] we're support of s. B. Four two

[1:49:51] three thank you. Good afternoon

[1:49:55] my name said phil vice I'm a

[1:49:56] member of local twenty to thirty

[1:49:57] six out of oakland and I

[1:49:59] strongly support senate bill

[1:50:01] twenty four twenty three thank

[1:50:02] you. Good afternoon on't on when

[1:50:05] you also the corporate local

[1:50:07] seven thirteen represent alameda

[1:50:08] county and strong support the

[1:50:11] bill for twenty three. I think

[1:50:11] everyone. Good afternoon jason

[1:50:14] martinez I'm a member of local

[1:50:17] seven one for the carpenters

[1:50:18] union out of fresno and also-

[1:50:21] proud military veteran- in

[1:50:23] support of four twenty three

[1:50:25] thank you. Good afternoon my

[1:50:29] name's courtney powell and with

[1:50:31] resources for community

[1:50:32] development or a nonprofit

[1:50:33] affordable housing developer in

[1:50:36] support of sb four twenty three

[1:50:37] thanks. Good afternoon travis

[1:50:41] alexander laughter local ninety

[1:50:43] eighty three out of fresno we

[1:50:43] strongly support sb. Forty

[1:50:50] three. Good afternoon eddie luna

[1:50:51] no cup proud proud member of

[1:50:53] local carpenters local seven

[1:50:55] thirteen am pleased that the

[1:50:56] light the end of support of this

[1:51:01] bill. For twenty three. Good

[1:51:02] afternoon my name is juan

[1:51:04] espinoza I'm a proud member of

[1:51:04] nor cal carpenters local two

[1:51:07] seventeen in some until county

[1:51:08] and I'm here in strong support

[1:51:11] of s. B. Two four twenty three

[1:51:12] thank you. Five douglas leach a

[1:51:16] resident of danville in support

[1:51:20] of this bill. My name is a gable

[1:51:22] and a member of local one oh two

[1:51:24] and livermore and I we support

[1:51:27] this bill. Good afternoon my

[1:51:30] name is daniel craig a member at

[1:51:32] nor cal carpenters local twenty

[1:51:34] thirty six and oakland strongly

[1:51:36] support sb four twenty three

[1:51:37] thank you. Good evening

[1:51:41] francisco martinez- feel ripped

[1:51:43] up and local twenty to thirty

[1:51:45] six loka- carpenters covering

[1:51:47] forty six northern california

[1:51:48] counties and we in support of

[1:51:50] these bills. If made lopez

[1:51:55] resident that it gives that

[1:51:56] governmental. Level bus this

[1:51:59] bill. Marilyn shea california

[1:52:04] association of local housing

[1:52:06] finance agencies strong support

[1:52:09] . Hi katie herridge mac within

[1:52:12] ph nonprofit housing association

[1:52:14] of northern california in strong

[1:52:15] support. Rigoberto collado from

[1:52:20] us senate say california split

[1:52:22] support sb four twenty three

[1:52:25] thank. Good afternoon my name is

[1:52:30] one barbosa and I'm a field

[1:52:31] representative but local five oh

[1:52:33] five in santa cruz county coming

[1:52:35] strong support of sb four twenty

[1:52:37] three thank you. Good afternoon

[1:52:42] my name is erin had service

[1:52:43] currently at work local twenty

[1:52:45] two and services to an arms

[1:52:48] strong supporter of- for twenty

[1:52:53] four. Canister with the local

[1:52:56] nine one four four in san jose

[1:52:58] and I strongly support sb. Four

[1:53:03] twenty three. Chris martinez

[1:53:04] local fifty nine nine out of

[1:53:07] redding california and I

[1:53:08] strongly support this bill.

[1:53:11] jerry kantor be a member north

[1:53:13] cal california local forty six-

[1:53:15] and I means putting support a

[1:53:17] bath before twenty three. Some

[1:53:22] of us kids out of local four

[1:53:24] five in san jose california in

[1:53:26] strong support sb four twenty

[1:53:27] three. Giovanni are liam-

[1:53:31] resident of placerville I'm a

[1:53:33] member of sixty eight l. In

[1:53:35] oakland and I strongly support

[1:53:36] this long overdue read

[1:53:38] legislation as before twenty

[1:53:39] three. Chris palmer member local

[1:53:42] one idea below strong support of

[1:53:44] sb four twenty three. Albertans

[1:53:48] today ninety one forty four a

[1:53:51] strong supporter of for twenty

[1:53:52] three. Committee members good

[1:53:54] afternoon pedro mendes covers

[1:53:56] local twenty two I'm here in

[1:53:59] strong support this bill thanks

[1:54:01] . How does all this markle

[1:54:03] carpenters union local forty six

[1:54:05] sacramento who strong supporter

[1:54:07] of sb forty three. Tony will be

[1:54:12] california apartment association

[1:54:12] strong support thanks. Kyle

[1:54:16] patterson selfless mount states

[1:54:19] felt los angeles we're sort of

[1:54:22] strong supporter of this bill.

[1:54:24] sb. Four twenty three. Good

[1:54:29] evening committee ministry

[1:54:30] lawson from the beautiful city

[1:54:31] of long beach california local

[1:54:33] five six two wistrom please in

[1:54:35] support of his bill thank. Madam

[1:54:38] chair members to any curtain

[1:54:40] california conference of

[1:54:40] carpenters I really want you to

[1:54:42] understand that skilled and

[1:54:44] trained as it stands now with

[1:54:46] literally exclude the three

[1:54:48] hundred and thirty thousand or

[1:54:49] three over three hundred

[1:54:50] thousand nonunion construction

[1:54:52] workers and housing. And exclude

[1:54:54] significant portion of the union

[1:54:55] construction workers that are in

[1:54:57] housing it is a very complex

[1:54:58] difficult standard be happening

[1:55:01] is some questions afterwards.

[1:55:03] and we're in support of ab

[1:55:05] that's before twenty three thank

[1:55:06] you. Got little l. Richmond

[1:55:09] california residents member of

[1:55:11] carpenters local one fifty two

[1:55:13] and a researcher of housing

[1:55:15] construction labor standards for

[1:55:17] twenty years in strong support

[1:55:19] of four to three.

[1:55:30] I think you do we have any other

[1:55:33] witnesses in support of sb four

[1:55:36] twenty three hearing room twelve

[1:55:38] hundred. Seeing none will now

[1:55:40] move on to witnesses in

[1:55:42] opposition of s. B. A poor

[1:55:45] twenty three here in room twelve

[1:55:49] hundred.

[1:55:58] good afternoon madam chair

[1:56:00] committee members. My name is

[1:56:02] sabrina fernandes. I'm a native

[1:56:04] san franciscan graduates of the

[1:56:06] state approved apprenticeship

[1:56:08] training program and I'm a state

[1:56:10] certified electrician. I'm here

[1:56:12] today to speak on behalf of the

[1:56:13] california. I've been a member

[1:56:19] of my organization the

[1:56:20] international brotherhood of

[1:56:22] electrical workers for thirty

[1:56:23] five years. I served my

[1:56:24] apprenticeship and work with

[1:56:26] tools in the field for about

[1:56:28] half of my career. The other

[1:56:29] half I spent creating and

[1:56:31] directing our electrical

[1:56:32] industry cut- office of labor

[1:56:34] compliance. Well my job involves

[1:56:37] speaking with workers on public

[1:56:39] construction projects in san

[1:56:40] francisco. We're all

[1:56:45] construction workers union and

[1:56:46] nonunion. Should receive by law

[1:56:50] prevailing wages and more

[1:56:51] premises registered in state

[1:56:53] approved apprenticeship training

[1:56:54] programs are mandated the

[1:56:55] opportunity to work a percentage

[1:56:57] of hours on projects. So that

[1:56:58] they may learn their craft from

[1:57:00] experience and skilled journey

[1:57:01] persons all too often I meet

[1:57:04] workers who are unaware that

[1:57:05] they're entitled to prevailing

[1:57:06] wages workers who don't have the

[1:57:08] benefit of union representation

[1:57:10] for example. And many of whom

[1:57:12] are immigrants with limited

[1:57:13] english language skills or

[1:57:15] otherwise vulnerable. I've

[1:57:17] helped many of these folks who

[1:57:18] are too afraid to speak up about

[1:57:21] wage theft or other abuses

[1:57:22] fearful of losing their jobs.

[1:57:25] too afraid to say no. Even when

[1:57:27] asked to perform work they had

[1:57:29] no experience in. Putting their

[1:57:30] lives. And the lives of their

[1:57:34] coworkers at risk. No one can

[1:57:36] contest the wrong in subjecting

[1:57:38] workers to dangerous work

[1:57:40] they're not trained to perform.

[1:57:42] and what about the folks who

[1:57:43] occupy and use the building

[1:57:45] being built by the unskilled.

[1:57:47] whether it be a school a

[1:57:49] hospital or housing. For those

[1:57:51] building safe. I think it's an

[1:57:54] important question. I was glad

[1:57:57] when california legislators

[1:57:58] passed skilled and trained

[1:57:59] requirements for construction

[1:58:01] workers ensuring that baseline

[1:58:02] percentages of workers on public

[1:58:04] and fast track housing in

[1:58:05] california would be required to

[1:58:06] be graduates of state approved

[1:58:07] apprenticeship training

[1:58:08] programs. Or have equivalent

[1:58:11] measures of skill and experience

[1:58:13] . These programs make high skill

[1:58:15] high paying careers accessible

[1:58:16] to people of color women like me

[1:58:20] . And vulnerable folks. Like

[1:58:23] many of those I met on san

[1:58:24] francisco jobsites. People for

[1:58:26] whom skill training is the

[1:58:27] difference between fear and

[1:58:29] empowerment between being abuse

[1:58:31] worker. And being a valued

[1:58:33] worker stepping on to the path

[1:58:35] of the middle class. Sb four to

[1:58:38] three removes the requirements

[1:58:39] do you skilled and train workers

[1:58:42] and employ apprentices. Don't

[1:58:44] let exploitative profit driven

[1:58:45] developers get rich at the

[1:58:47] expense of the safety of

[1:58:48] california's construction

[1:58:49] workers. Please do not allow sb

[1:58:52] four to three to move forward

[1:58:53] unless it is amended to retain

[1:58:55] strong language mandating

[1:58:57] skilled and trained measures.

[1:58:59] california's construction work

[1:59:00] force. All of us. Deserve these

[1:59:03] protections. We urge the members

[1:59:06] of this committee to work with

[1:59:09] the same with the state building

[1:59:10] construction trades council.

[1:59:11] before the bill gets off the

[1:59:14] senate floor thank you very much

[1:59:15] for time. Madam chair members

[1:59:20] serra flocks of the california

[1:59:22] labor federation representing

[1:59:24] two million union members in the

[1:59:26] state of california. We also

[1:59:28] stand with the building trades

[1:59:29] and with my sister from the I.

[1:59:31] b. E. W. In opposing sb four

[1:59:35] twenty three unless amended. Sb

[1:59:38] thirty five was the product of

[1:59:40] extensive negotiations that

[1:59:41] resulted in allowing

[1:59:42] streamlining for projects if

[1:59:45] developers were able to meet

[1:59:47] labor standards that included

[1:59:48] the prevailing wage and a

[1:59:50] skilled and trained workforce.

[1:59:52] this ensured that workers were

[1:59:54] paid fairly but also that these

[1:59:57] projects were creating good

[1:59:59] middle class jobs. Sb four

[2:00:03] twenty three removes those labor

[2:00:04] standards for residential

[2:00:06] construction workers. We oppose

[2:00:09] this on policy but we oppose

[2:00:12] this as a matter of principle.

[2:00:14] it is unacceptable to strip

[2:00:16] labor protections and labor

[2:00:18] standards from any worker in the

[2:00:20] state of california whether

[2:00:22] they're a construction worker a

[2:00:24] nurse a teacher a firefighter a

[2:00:26] truck driver or any other.

[2:00:29] person in california who works

[2:00:32] in this state. For those reasons

[2:00:36] we must oppose this bill. As a

[2:00:38] federation of unions that

[2:00:40] represent members in every

[2:00:41] industry in the state we know

[2:00:44] that affordable housing is a

[2:00:47] priority for working

[2:00:48] californians it's a priority for

[2:00:50] our members we hear it every day

[2:00:54] . But we also know that it's not

[2:00:56] a standalone problem. The

[2:00:59] affordable housing crisis is

[2:01:01] inextricably linked to the lack

[2:01:04] of good middle class jobs we can

[2:01:07] not address one without

[2:01:08] addressing the other we cannot

[2:01:11] solve this crisis on the backs

[2:01:14] of workers it is only going to

[2:01:17] cause another crisis. It is for

[2:01:19] those reasons that we stand with

[2:01:21] our brothers and sisters and

[2:01:22] siblings in the building trades

[2:01:24] and ask that you vote no on this

[2:01:27] bill today we oppose unless

[2:01:29] amended thank you. Madam chair

[2:01:36] members jason riley california

[2:01:38] cities- we are also opposed to

[2:01:39] this measure. Madam chair and

[2:01:44] members mario you dirty of the

[2:01:45] western regional political

[2:01:47] director for unite here and the

[2:01:48] hospitality workers are here in

[2:01:50] solidarity with the building and

[2:01:51] construction trades council

[2:01:53] oppose unless amended thank you

[2:01:57] . Good afternoon my name is mark

[2:01:59] miller were for the california

[2:02:00] state building trees we

[2:02:01] represent half a million

[2:02:03] construction workers in

[2:02:04] california and we oppose this

[2:02:07] unless amended thank you. Good

[2:02:12] afternoon members because

[2:02:13] they're walking here on behalf

[2:02:13] of the two hundred thousand plus

[2:02:15] members of the california states

[2:02:16] by trade council the california

[2:02:18] state association of electrical

[2:02:19] workers the coalition of

[2:02:21] california utility employees as

[2:02:23] well as the western states

[2:02:25] council of sheet metal workers

[2:02:26] and opposition as the bill as

[2:02:28] currently constructed thank you

[2:02:31] . Hello my name is law like a

[2:02:34] steel with ibew local eleven of

[2:02:36] los angeles a representing

[2:02:37] almost twelve thousand members

[2:02:38] what we stand in solidarity with

[2:02:40] the building trades to oppose sb

[2:02:43] four twenty three unless amended

[2:02:44] thank you. Good afternoon forty

[2:02:49] senators thank you for all your

[2:02:50] work do you do for the state of

[2:02:53] california. I many payroll co

[2:02:55] monterey santa cruz county

[2:02:57] building construction trades

[2:02:58] council. We oppose four two

[2:03:02] three s. B. Forty three class

[2:03:04] fits amended we stand right with

[2:03:06] the state building trades thank

[2:03:08] you. Good afternoon sherrin guns

[2:03:12] all of it is on behalf of the

[2:03:14] cities of bakersfield corona

[2:03:16] rancho cucamonga and rancho

[2:03:18] palos verdes in opposition thank

[2:03:19] you. My name is scott reform a

[2:03:25] business agent local three nine

[2:03:27] three you way. Santa clara

[2:03:29] county san benito counties- we

[2:03:31] support the building trades an

[2:03:32] oppose unless amended. Matt

[2:03:37] brought here on behalf of the

[2:03:38] california teamsters in town in

[2:03:40] paradise in opposition thank you

[2:03:45] . Good afternoon madam chair

[2:03:46] chasing themselves representing

[2:03:48] the cities of oak grove in the

[2:03:49] walls sleek would and rancho

[2:03:52] cordova in opposition thank you

[2:03:55] . Good afternoon chair and

[2:03:56] committee members hi jonathan

[2:03:58] that representing the city of

[2:03:59] montebello- in opposition unless

[2:04:03] amended- well as amended to

[2:04:06] impose a sunset on january first

[2:04:09] twenty thirty and to x. And

[2:04:10] cd's- they are in compliance

[2:04:12] with housing element thank you.

[2:04:16] good afternoon carly shall be on

[2:04:17] behalf of the city's entries he

[2:04:19] mission viejo la habra laguna

[2:04:21] beach placentia and all marin

[2:04:22] opposition thank you. Mitchell

[2:04:26] bechtel with the discounts of

[2:04:27] ironworkers we stand state

[2:04:29] building trades in opposition

[2:04:31] unless amended thank you. An

[2:04:34] estimate on a los angeles and

[2:04:35] orange county building and

[2:04:36] construction trades council

[2:04:37] representing one hundred forty

[2:04:39] thousand hard working men and

[2:04:42] women and I stand with the state

[2:04:43] building trades in opposition to

[2:04:44] this bill. Hello my name is john

[2:04:49] hershey with united association

[2:04:50] of plumbers and pipefitters

[2:04:52] local four four seven in the

[2:04:53] sacramento region and we are

[2:04:54] oppose unless amended thank you

[2:04:58] . Good afternoon maggie with

[2:05:00] local union two to eight

[2:05:02] plumbers and pipefitters

[2:05:03] marischal california and we

[2:05:04] stand with the state building

[2:05:06] trades and oppose this bill was

[2:05:08] amended. My name's jake bash

[2:05:12] with local four four seven

[2:05:14] plumbers pipefitters and- just

[2:05:15] strongly disagree with- s. B.

[2:05:18] four twenty three thanks. My

[2:05:23] name is beau fairburn local

[2:05:25] plumbers and pipefitters four

[2:05:27] four seven apprentice we

[2:05:28] strongly oppose. I'm camera

[2:05:32] robertson- opposes will local

[2:05:36] four four seven plumbers

[2:05:37] pipefitters thank you. Good

[2:05:40] afternoon but really you want to

[2:05:42] have the state building

[2:05:42] construction trades council

[2:05:43] which is like to reiterate the

[2:05:44] comments made by my colleagues

[2:05:46] and primary testimony- we

[2:05:47] strongly oppose this bill unless

[2:05:49] amended- ask this bill seeks to

[2:05:52] provide carve outs for market

[2:05:53] rate for profit developers and

[2:05:55] rolls back labor protections we

[2:05:57] look forward to continuing

[2:05:57] discussions. With the author and

[2:06:00] the sponsors on this bill thank

[2:06:02] you very much. Good afternoon

[2:06:06] senators my name is alex lance

[2:06:07] burke research and advocacy

[2:06:09] director with the san francisco

[2:06:10] electrical construction industry

[2:06:12] in opposition for twenty three I

[2:06:15] am also a long time labor

[2:06:16] standards researcher and I've

[2:06:18] vehemently oppose the half

[2:06:19] truths and misrepresentations in

[2:06:22] testimony in support thank you.

[2:06:26] good afternoon chair members of

[2:06:28] the committee my name is josh

[2:06:30] from iran- I am the executive

[2:06:31] secretary treasure of the tri

[2:06:32] counties building and

[2:06:33] construction trades council san

[2:06:34] luis obispo santa barbara and

[2:06:36] ventura counties representing

[2:06:38] over fourteen thousand hard

[2:06:40] working skilled and trained.

[2:06:42] workers on behalf of the tri

[2:06:45] counties building construction

[2:06:46] trades council we stand with the

[2:06:48] state building and construction

[2:06:48] trades council california

[2:06:50] opposition unless amended.

[2:06:52] intended to be an extension of

[2:06:53] sb thirty five and twenty

[2:06:55] seventeen the bill eliminates

[2:06:56] the existing safety in

[2:06:57] construction training standards

[2:06:59] on housing specifically a

[2:07:00] requirement. That a small

[2:07:01] percentage of workers on the

[2:07:03] project be graduates of state

[2:07:04] approved apprenticeship

[2:07:05] programs. The labor protections

[2:07:06] in sb thirty five that were

[2:07:08] previously negotiated. Sir we

[2:07:10] don't have you has a lead

[2:07:11] witness we right now we're just

[2:07:13] taking name organization and

[2:07:15] support opposition I understood

[2:07:18] . Joshua medrano. In extreme

[2:07:21] opposition of this bill thank

[2:07:23] you thank you sir. For annika

[2:07:26] within this resident of tracy's

[2:07:28] summit mason proud member local

[2:07:31] four hundred out of san jose and

[2:07:33] I'm in a position of. S. B. Four

[2:07:36] twenty three- unless amended.

[2:07:39] thank you thank you ma'am. Do

[2:07:41] you have any other witnesses in

[2:07:43] opposition to s. B. For twenty

[2:07:47] three hearing room twelve

[2:07:49] hundred- be more thank. Kamala.

[2:07:59] all right now we will- you will

[2:08:02] now move on to witnesses we to

[2:08:03] testify be it be at the

[2:08:05] teleconference arvest. Will be

[2:08:07] limiting phone testimony to

[2:08:09] twenty minutes for all bills

[2:08:11] during this hearing. Moderator

[2:08:13] if you would please from the

[2:08:14] individuals waiting to testify

[2:08:15] in support of or opposition. Hey

[2:08:19] we will we begin. Or the vision

[2:08:23] once again if you are in port or

[2:08:25] opposition of the board the

[2:08:28] basic press one. Zero to hear a

[2:08:32] phone indicating the queue if

[2:08:33] you'll be giving. Bills notify

[2:08:38] because please ahead. Brough

[2:08:44] park we shouldn't representing

[2:08:46] teamsters local six five. Will

[2:08:48] this building tray. In op to the

[2:08:50] sp six more twenty three thank

[2:08:54] you. Next will be going to wind

[2:09:00] to nineteen please go ahead. Hi

[2:09:06] at this is there cannella kind

[2:09:07] of political director for you a

[2:09:09] local three nine green we

[2:09:10] represent thirty one hundred

[2:09:11] members are quite thirteen

[2:09:13] better hvacr technicians in

[2:09:14] santa cards have been you know

[2:09:15] county we stand with the

[2:09:17] building trades in opposition to

[2:09:20] the bill must be commended. Next

[2:09:25] we'll go to line two eighty four

[2:09:28] please go ahead. Hey. Yes it is

[2:09:39] your line is open. Dark hi I do

[2:09:41] not have a fighter the city

[2:09:43] chapel in the south finish out

[2:09:44] the in the probably fourteen at

[2:09:46] the twenty thank you. Thanks

[2:09:53] will going to one eighty six

[2:09:56] please click here. Gallagher

[2:09:57] table helping that in keeping

[2:09:59] our local. We will focus on

[2:10:04] responsible all. Have no for.

[2:10:05] that are being or approved in

[2:10:07] commitment to your skill trades

[2:10:10] . Well british product profits.

[2:10:22] what I next will go by him

[2:10:24] twenty please ahead. Thank you

[2:10:31] to. Yes to twenty year long is

[2:10:32] open. Yes name is eddie ray. Are

[2:10:34] workers local three seven seven

[2:10:35] president terms francisco

[2:10:37] resident I stand with the san

[2:10:39] francisco with the state

[2:10:40] building trades in strong

[2:10:43] opposition to sb four twenty

[2:10:45] three- the only ones that are in

[2:10:48] favor of this and are carpenters

[2:10:50] that wishes disassociated with

[2:10:53] the state building trades.

[2:10:54] please amanda thank you. Thanks

[2:11:00] for going to wind eighty nine

[2:11:02] please go ahead. Thank you.

[2:11:08] humboldt del nord building kind

[2:11:09] trades secretary treasurer we

[2:11:12] stand with the state building

[2:11:13] trades in opposition- sb four

[2:11:18] twenty three unless amended. Sh

[2:11:20] thank you. Next was going to

[2:11:27] line forty two please go ahead.

[2:11:30] good afternoon randy weber

[2:11:31] ironworkers local four sixty los

[2:11:34] angeles we stand strong in.

[2:11:37] opposition with state building

[2:11:39] trades on at four twenty three

[2:11:43] thank you for. Next will be

[2:11:48] going to line three nineteen

[2:11:50] please go ahead. All right- so

[2:11:55] we more shot at calling from los

[2:11:56] angeles what better for everyone

[2:11:58] in strong support thank you. It

[2:12:04] will be taking line three twenty

[2:12:07] one please go ahead. Good

[2:12:09] afternoon my name is nina lay

[2:12:11] bonta legislative affairs

[2:12:13] manager on behalf of the city of

[2:12:15] thousand oaks we stand and

[2:12:17] respectful opposition thank you

[2:12:21] . Thanks to go to line three

[2:12:25] eighteen please go ahead. Bob

[2:12:29] garrity from redlands and

[2:12:30] californian be calling in strong

[2:12:32] support of sb. Four two three.

[2:12:39] will be going to line to ninety

[2:12:41] one please go ahead. Assembly

[2:12:45] olympic city of beverly hills

[2:12:47] and we are opposed. Next will be

[2:12:53] going to line two nine to sixty

[2:12:56] five please go ahead. The first

[2:13:02] water bradley with building

[2:13:04] trades of the inland empire as a

[2:13:06] business manager and executive

[2:13:07] secretary we are strongly

[2:13:09] opposed to this bill and- your

[2:13:14] your rest your day. Thank you

[2:13:17] now we will go to line number

[2:13:19] two sixty seven please go ahead

[2:13:23] . Our carpenters local fifty

[2:13:27] eight ninety nine shasta county

[2:13:28] california. We are in strong

[2:13:29] support of s. B. To- thank you

[2:13:34] will go to the line to forty six

[2:13:36] please go ahead. Hello my name

[2:13:41] is brian pours out made business

[2:13:43] agent for you a local three nine

[2:13:45] three representing over thirty

[2:13:46] one hundred plumbers pipefitters

[2:13:47] steam fitters and hvac our

[2:13:49] service technicians in santa

[2:13:50] clarendon of counties- today I'm

[2:13:52] calling in standing in

[2:13:53] solidarity with the building

[2:13:55] trades council. And strongly

[2:13:57] oppose sb four twenty three

[2:14:00] thank you very top. Thank you my

[2:14:02] number. To eight eight nine two

[2:14:09] eighty eight. Barbara the field

[2:14:09] representative local carpenters

[2:14:10] union number at two seventeen

[2:14:12] foster city california. A strong

[2:14:14] supporter of sb four twenty

[2:14:16] three thank you all for time.

[2:14:18] thank you my number. Two ninety

[2:14:25] four. The representative. United

[2:14:29] seven thirty element county not

[2:14:31] showing support the bill. Thank

[2:14:34] you. Thank you my number two

[2:14:39] three two. I am. Many observers

[2:14:42] okot. I'm a resident of la okay

[2:14:46] . Immigrants at- covers local

[2:14:49] one eighty coverage solano

[2:14:50] county and I strongly support

[2:14:51] this bill sb four twenty three

[2:14:55] thank you. Thank you will go to

[2:14:58] the line number forty seven. In

[2:15:02] the blighted styles- the

[2:15:04] presiding over a thousand

[2:15:05] members of local three ninety

[2:15:07] plumbers painters welders. Joint

[2:15:10] the state building trades in

[2:15:11] opposition of. S. B. For twenty

[2:15:15] three thank you. Thank you next

[2:15:19] we'll go to line number three

[2:15:20] twenty five. Hello carol cannot

[2:15:24] find the business manager of the

[2:15:25] san diego county building and

[2:15:27] construction trades council and

[2:15:28] also the ceo of the s. U. V. G.

[2:15:30] the family housing corporation

[2:15:32] and we are in strong opposition.

[2:15:34] of sb. Four twenty three unless

[2:15:39] amended thank you. Thank you my

[2:15:41] number. One fifty seven. Hi my

[2:15:45] name is contacted what the pain

[2:15:48] is an allocate- mister. Opposed

[2:15:50] of sb four twenty three thank

[2:15:54] you. Thank you my number. One

[2:16:00] fifty six. Hi this is david the

[2:16:02] better with the painters and

[2:16:03] allied trades district council

[2:16:05] thirty six local thirteen ninety

[2:16:06] nine. And we're going to be

[2:16:07] supporting the state building

[2:16:09] trades in opposition s. B. Where

[2:16:11] opposing sorry opposition sb.

[2:16:17] four twenty three. Thank you we

[2:16:19] will go to line number. Three

[2:16:24] thirty. One eighteen I stand

[2:16:26] with the state building trades

[2:16:27] in opposition of this bill must

[2:16:30] imagine thank you. Thank you

[2:16:31] will now go to line number two

[2:16:34] twenty six. Good afternoon chen

[2:16:38] members eric turner on behalf of

[2:16:40] the town of apple valley

[2:16:41] respectfully in opposition.

[2:16:45] thank you my number. One forty

[2:16:50] one. Right after the automated

[2:16:53] allocate- opposed. The four

[2:16:57] twenty three you. Next to line

[2:17:00] number for five. Hi my name is

[2:17:04] rachel shoemaker by b. W. Three

[2:17:06] oh two representing over one

[2:17:08] thousand three hundred electoral

[2:17:09] workers in contra costa county

[2:17:11] we've been solidarity with the

[2:17:12] state building trades in

[2:17:13] opposition of sb four twenty

[2:17:14] three ellis amended. We need to

[2:17:16] invest in our friendship some

[2:17:17] promote skilled and trained

[2:17:18] language which helps protect all

[2:17:20] construction workers from

[2:17:22] exploitation thank you. Thank

[2:17:25] you next a bottle line number

[2:17:26] two- oh six. My number two oh

[2:17:35] six your line is open. Yeah

[2:17:38] martin rodriguez I will be for

[2:17:41] thirty three I stand in

[2:17:42] opposition of this bill. In

[2:17:45] solitary with state building

[2:17:47] trades unless amended. Thank you

[2:17:50] my number. Three forty four.

[2:17:56] follow maldonado. The mobile

[2:17:59] originally from about california

[2:18:01] center by area I. And- and off

[2:18:05] on behalf of the your email-

[2:18:08] according to reports twenty

[2:18:10] three. Thank you and idiot and a

[2:18:15] . Thank you to a court of number

[2:18:19] thirty two. Hi open shallow and

[2:18:20] mark panel in the home

[2:18:23] representing hundreds of people

[2:18:25] and. For twenty three twenty

[2:18:30] third housing and thanks for all

[2:18:31] your hard work kushida. Thank

[2:18:33] you by number. One twenty five.

[2:18:40] yes transaction. Three seventy

[2:18:42] eight stand with the building

[2:18:43] changed in opposition of. S. B.

[2:18:48] twenty three dollars. Thank you

[2:18:51] my number. Fifty four. My number

[2:18:59] fifty for your line is open.

[2:19:04] okay we'll move on to the next

[2:19:05] next nine three hundred please

[2:19:08] go ahead. My name is larry

[2:19:11] mazzola. Business manager you a

[2:19:13] local thirty eight plumbers and

[2:19:15] pipefitters and sam sisco mall

[2:19:16] for the president the same

[2:19:18] system building construction

[2:19:19] trades council. A deep entire

[2:19:22] building trade up and down

[2:19:23] california strongly opposes

[2:19:26] ripping strong labor standards

[2:19:28] out of this bill please close.

[2:19:32] thank you next to- to line

[2:19:33] numbers thirty four please go

[2:19:35] ahead. My number thirty for your

[2:19:43] line is open. Hello this is

[2:19:47] ricky owens logistics. Six nine.

[2:19:51] empire state building trains.

[2:19:53] and oppose. Or. Twenty three.

[2:19:58] thank you y. Number thirty seven

[2:20:00] please go ahead. My number

[2:20:08] thirty seven your line is open.

[2:20:11] yes this is joseph parker. Local

[2:20:14] six six nine organizer and we

[2:20:15] stand with the state building

[2:20:17] trades in oppose this bill.

[2:20:19] thank you next to a bottom line

[2:20:22] number one eighty nine. Hi my

[2:20:25] name is public war- volunteer

[2:20:27] with california yimby- calling

[2:20:30] in strong support. Thank you

[2:20:35] spline number. Ninety nine. My

[2:20:44] number ninety nine your line is

[2:20:45] open. Okay we will go to the

[2:20:51] next line of sixty one please go

[2:20:54] ahead. In your- go ahead. John

[2:21:04] henry lopez with you a local two

[2:21:07] four six palmer's implies that

[2:21:08] there's representing fresno

[2:21:09] madera tulare kings county and

[2:21:11] we stand in solidarity with the

[2:21:13] state building trades in

[2:21:14] opposition of sb. Four twenty

[2:21:17] three months amended thank you.

[2:21:19] thank you mexico line number.

[2:21:25] one thirty five. Hi can you hear

[2:21:26] me. We can hear you go head.

[2:21:29] right dillon at lee eng

[2:21:31] councilmember with blocks also

[2:21:34] and I'd like to register my

[2:21:35] opposition sb four twenty three

[2:21:39] it I don't think you realize

[2:21:41] the- legal liability system

[2:21:45] poses on cities thank you. Thank

[2:21:47] you next to a photo line number

[2:21:50] three thirty one. The to the ibm

[2:21:54] application global california

[2:21:56] inside los angeles in opposition

[2:21:58] to people three thank you. Thank

[2:22:02] you next to a photo line number

[2:22:04] three fourteen please go ahead.

[2:22:08] cool organizer you a large local

[2:22:12] citrix nine. Senate opposition.

[2:22:18] twenty three okay real feel in

[2:22:20] train. Thank you next week

[2:22:26] bottle numbers oh please go

[2:22:28] ahead. Good afternoon madam vice

[2:22:31] chair member run dickens on

[2:22:32] behalf of some well. The local

[2:22:34] guy commission in support thank

[2:22:37] you. Thank you next to a photo

[2:22:40] line number. Two seventy one. Hi

[2:22:44] this is rob nielsen from

[2:22:46] peninsula for everyone calling

[2:22:48] in support of our state four two

[2:22:51] three thank you. Next we'll go

[2:22:55] to line number eighty please go

[2:22:56] ahead. Good afternoon position

[2:23:00] in boston businessman group

[2:23:01] formed by bitter cold four eight

[2:23:04] four we stand with the state

[2:23:06] building trades in strong

[2:23:07] opposition to s. B. Four twenty

[2:23:10] three unless amended. Thank you

[2:23:14] . Thank you next to a line

[2:23:16] number. Two seventy six. Matt

[2:23:21] kelly covers local forty six

[2:23:22] calling in strong support of sb

[2:23:26] four twenty three skilled and

[2:23:26] trained building no units of

[2:23:28] housing thank you. Thank you

[2:23:31] next to a line number two

[2:23:34] seventy seven. Hello my name is

[2:23:37] patricia rumors another local

[2:23:39] fall fired in a much strong

[2:23:41] support sb four twenty three

[2:23:44] thank you. I next to record a

[2:23:49] line number. Two ninety five.

[2:23:51] good afternoon brandon the

[2:23:52] member a local force former

[2:23:54] spectators and- the service I

[2:23:57] join the state bill trades

[2:23:59] strong opposition of at four

[2:24:02] twenty three. Thank you. Thank

[2:24:05] you we will to one number three

[2:24:09] all. Four my number four. Yes

[2:24:15] good afternoon this is one the

[2:24:17] biggest. Carpenters local seven

[2:24:19] oh one and fresno I'm in strong

[2:24:22] support of fat beats for twenty

[2:24:23] three. Thank you next we will go

[2:24:27] to line number forty please go

[2:24:29] ahead. By number. Forty okay

[2:24:39] we'll move on to the next number

[2:24:41] of. Three thirty three. Three

[2:24:49] thirty within a- this is ryan

[2:24:49] medical center emb in strong

[2:24:51] support of sb four twenty fifty

[2:24:53] thank you. Next we will go to

[2:24:58] line number three twenty seven.

[2:25:00] good afternoon my name is jason

[2:25:02] pierce I'm a member in a field

[2:25:04] rep of carpenters local seven

[2:25:06] fifty one of the humble county.

[2:25:08] strong supporter of sb four

[2:25:10] twenty three thank you. Thank

[2:25:13] you next will. Three forty five.

[2:25:20] what carper's local seventeen

[2:25:22] eighty nine in strong support of

[2:25:24] sb four twenty three. Hi one. My

[2:25:29] number. Two seventy three. Good

[2:25:34] afternoon my name's steve ayers

[2:25:35] carpenters local seven fifty one

[2:25:37] strong supporter of it b. For

[2:25:41] twenty three. Thank you thanks

[2:25:43] to a vocal line number three

[2:25:45] twenty. My number three twenty.

[2:25:52] hello go ahead. My name is no

[2:25:58] the lander of part of the- two

[2:26:01] seventeen carper's union. County

[2:26:03] and I'm a strong supporter of sb

[2:26:08] four twenty three. Thank you

[2:26:08] next we'll go to line number.

[2:26:15] fifty eight. Hi this is regina

[2:26:16] alafia with ibew local five nine

[2:26:19] five representing nearly twenty

[2:26:23] five hundred electric workers in

[2:26:24] alameda county. Filmmaking

[2:26:24] county and calaveras county and

[2:26:26] week I'm calling in solitary

[2:26:29] solidarity with the state

[2:26:30] building trades in opposition-

[2:26:32] of commended to senate bill four

[2:26:36] twenty three thank you. I thank

[2:26:38] you we will go to line number

[2:26:41] three eleven. The new went into

[2:26:45] susan eggman carpenters union

[2:26:47] local five zero five in santa

[2:26:50] cruz county and I strongly

[2:26:51] support as before twenty three

[2:26:52] thank you. Thank you. Thanks we

[2:26:55] will go to my number. Two fifty

[2:27:00] six. Hi my name is ron finley

[2:27:01] I'm and local. Ninety one oh

[2:27:05] nine drywall laughter's fact

[2:27:06] only. Christian programs top

[2:27:07] notch training first aid cpr and

[2:27:10] when they're walking the job

[2:27:12] sector proficient in the job

[2:27:14] they're hired for I'm in support

[2:27:17] for sb four twenty three. Thank

[2:27:20] you next to a photo line number

[2:27:25] . Three sixteen. Hello my name

[2:27:26] is a victim of billion a

[2:27:28] carpenter with local seven fifty

[2:27:29] one and sonoma county all

[2:27:30] carpenters up and down all of

[2:27:32] california is very much in

[2:27:33] support of s. B. Four twenty

[2:27:36] three thank you. Thank you next

[2:27:39] to a photo line number. One

[2:27:48] sixty seven. My number one sixty

[2:27:50] seven. We will move on to line

[2:27:55] number one now- nine one oh nine

[2:27:59] . Hi my name is sean kyle with

[2:28:01] ibew five nine five in dublin

[2:28:05] california we represent twenty

[2:28:07] five hundred electric workers

[2:28:08] alameda san joaquin calaveras

[2:28:09] county as- we stand with state

[2:28:12] building trades. In opposition.

[2:28:15] sb four two three thank you.

[2:28:18] thank you next to a photo line

[2:28:20] number three fifty please go

[2:28:22] ahead. My name is lisa dance

[2:28:25] with fremont for everyone and we

[2:28:27] proudly support sb four twenty

[2:28:31] three. Thank you. We'll go to

[2:28:35] line number one eleven. His

[2:28:39] excellency with iron workers

[2:28:41] local three seventy eight we

[2:28:43] stand with the state building

[2:28:44] and construction trade an oppose

[2:28:47] unless amended thank you. Thank

[2:28:50] you next to line number three

[2:28:54] four. Hello I would martin

[2:28:55] lawrence summer to do no harm

[2:28:57] and long last report. Thank you

[2:29:06] next we record line them two now

[2:29:07] said the matter motor either

[2:29:10] this will our last- witness via

[2:29:12] the telecom- we have reached our

[2:29:17] . Twenty okay number. Two ninety

[2:29:22] six. Right field rep corporate

[2:29:22] local two skin pools of s. Forty

[2:29:26] three let's build housing. Thank

[2:29:29] you. Thank you. Thank you

[2:29:34] matamata. And think you to all

[2:29:36] our super and opposite witness

[2:29:38] will bring that is back to the

[2:29:39] main. No senator burke he had a

[2:29:42] question five thank you madam

[2:29:43] chair- certainly this is an

[2:29:43] illustration of conflicting

[2:29:44] values the value the many of us

[2:29:47] hold to ensure that the work

[2:29:49] force is skilled and trained

[2:29:50] versus the value of creating

[2:29:51] more affordable housing- I'm

[2:29:53] going to support the bill- it's

[2:29:56] going to make it. Long I hope

[2:29:57] not terribly torturous journey

[2:29:59] here to legislature but- I'm

[2:30:02] gonna ask you if you are also

[2:30:05] committed to trying to reconcile

[2:30:07] those two values as it moves

[2:30:08] forward. So if the question is

[2:30:11] am I committed to working with

[2:30:13] the opposition to try to come to

[2:30:15] a resolution on this 1100%

[2:30:17] absolutely as I said earlier it

[2:30:19] takes two to tango. But

[2:30:21] absolutely what what one can I

[2:30:23] do wanna say center but- I'd I

[2:30:25] don't think it's accurate to

[2:30:27] suggest that this fight is

[2:30:30] about- about skilled. Labor

[2:30:31] verses affordable housing the

[2:30:34] language that we have in this

[2:30:36] bill- it died it requires very

[2:30:39] significant labor protections

[2:30:41] and that these are not on

[2:30:41] skilled. Workers it requires.

[2:30:47] effort sort of team workers out

[2:30:48] of. Internship program I'm sure

[2:30:50] that- can talk about how does

[2:30:51] that this is it is a false

[2:30:54] narrative. To say that this is

[2:30:55] gonna be on qualified unskilled

[2:30:57] untrained construction workers

[2:30:59] versus skilled construction

[2:31:00] workers these are different

[2:31:02] labor standards this is.

[2:31:03] replacing one set of labor

[2:31:04] standards with a different set

[2:31:06] of labor standards- and the

[2:31:08] carpenters can explain why it

[2:31:09] will cover many many more.

[2:31:11] construction workers but yes we

[2:31:13] absolutely I'm on my door is

[2:31:15] perpetually open- and my hope is

[2:31:18] to resolve this it's not a fight

[2:31:20] the fight is. As unpleasant for

[2:31:22] me as it is for anyone else but

[2:31:24] I do want to make that one

[2:31:25] clarification thank you center

[2:31:26] where I'm gonna focus on last

[2:31:28] thirty seconds of your answer.

[2:31:31] thank you. Thank you senator

[2:31:32] number I know kelly said keep a

[2:31:35] r. To that's fine you. So do you

[2:31:38] notice several cities in n. And

[2:31:39] their- and their opposition I

[2:31:42] think revolves around. Of the

[2:31:44] fact that- dave really been

[2:31:46] struggling with a cd and getting

[2:31:49] their housing elements approved

[2:31:51] and then we- piled on apr- as a

[2:31:55] method of. Disallowing them to

[2:31:58] that have been approved. Housing

[2:32:01] element or have it in compliance

[2:32:04] they could say. And so what this

[2:32:06] does is it gives a cd that with

[2:32:08] the power over them to.

[2:32:09] basically stripped the rights

[2:32:11] away- by not processing in time

[2:32:15] in a timely fashion which is

[2:32:16] been there their big complaint-

[2:32:18] we've heard a little bit from h.

[2:32:20] c. D. That no no it's the

[2:32:22] cities. Well you know there's

[2:32:24] two hundred cities out there

[2:32:25] were more there's actually three

[2:32:27] hundred and eighty three- trying

[2:32:29] to get. In compliance with their

[2:32:32] housing elements so that they

[2:32:33] can deal with the new members

[2:32:36] the rain and numbers that have

[2:32:37] come out. And until that

[2:32:39] disconnect is fixed so that

[2:32:41] there's actually a better

[2:32:42] process for them to get their

[2:32:44] housing element approved hard

[2:32:46] for me to give. An extension in

[2:32:49] time to process it's kind of

[2:32:51] broken right now I'd like to see

[2:32:53] that process addressed- before

[2:32:56] we go on and give an extension

[2:32:58] to an already broken process.

[2:32:59] it's easy for cities that got

[2:33:02] sixty five units. Of affordable

[2:33:04] housing. Put in as their arena

[2:33:07] number but the ones who got

[2:33:10] three thousand to four thousand

[2:33:11] units. Going to be impossible

[2:33:12] for them to do that and housing

[2:33:14] elements don't just get produced

[2:33:15] overnight. You can do in a week

[2:33:18] you can do you can barely do in

[2:33:20] two years. And so that's what

[2:33:22] they're struggling with and

[2:33:22] that's why you heard from some

[2:33:24] of the cities. If we can fix

[2:33:26] that process I'd be more

[2:33:27] inclined. To you to some of

[2:33:29] these other streamlining methods

[2:33:31] because I'm all about

[2:33:32] streamlining but it has to be

[2:33:34] done on our end to end our our

[2:33:37] agencies need to be responsive

[2:33:38] to the cities. They can't just

[2:33:39] say hey you guys didn't do it

[2:33:41] right. Try again. And that's

[2:33:43] what a lot of them have gotten

[2:33:45] really frustrated out there and

[2:33:46] I think- in and I think that's-

[2:33:48] the issue that. You're cities

[2:33:50] are having. So that's my comment

[2:33:53] I don't know if you've talked a

[2:33:55] cd about this. But hard for me

[2:33:56] to support until they fix their

[2:33:58] problems. I mean. I've bob is

[2:34:04] been. Involved with and for

[2:34:06] close monitor. How element. Or

[2:34:08] six. In my said of sanford.

[2:34:09] which would drum. Process knows

[2:34:12] . Is perfect there are also

[2:34:13] cities- that have- there are

[2:34:18] some cities that have have flown

[2:34:19] off of their obligation and

[2:34:21] have. A dog not all there are

[2:34:23] plenty of cities are trying

[2:34:24] really hard but there are

[2:34:26] cities. That have decided they

[2:34:27] were going to continue to do

[2:34:28] what we've allowed them to do

[2:34:31] for decades. Which is to submit

[2:34:32] a- housing element that is never

[2:34:34] going to happen- and then there

[2:34:36] are also in surprise when it

[2:34:37] gets rejected I think it should

[2:34:41] is working very hard. To try to

[2:34:42] certified or not certified

[2:34:43] compliant with the law there

[2:34:45] cities that are frustrated.

[2:34:46] they're also advocates whose

[2:34:48] there are plenty of advocates

[2:34:49] you think you city has been too

[2:34:51] soft in some cities so it should

[2:34:53] is getting pulled in a lot of

[2:34:54] different directions right now

[2:34:55] and I think they're acting.

[2:34:57] working in good faith to try to.

[2:35:01] to resolve it. Thank you centers

[2:35:05] it there to we have senator will

[2:35:07] hop with the question center

[2:35:10] skinner and sutter cortese.

[2:35:12] thank you. Thank you to

[2:35:14] everybody who spoke- I'll

[2:35:16] actually move this item- and

[2:35:18] hoping that the author of the

[2:35:19] carpenters in the building

[2:35:20] trades all work together- on

[2:35:23] both sides- to kind of come to

[2:35:26] some type of agreement moving

[2:35:27] forward- this is a housing

[2:35:29] committee and we do need

[2:35:30] affordable housing we also need.

[2:35:31] a good paying jobs and I'd like

[2:35:34] for all of us to come together

[2:35:35] rather than- see what we're

[2:35:36] seeing right now- so- for this

[2:35:40] committee I will be moving this

[2:35:41] forward thank you. Thank you

[2:35:43] senator boxer skinner. Thank

[2:35:47] you- I want to ask a little more

[2:35:50] specific question in terms of-

[2:35:52] the. The work to try to get

[2:36:00] agreements- and this is by

[2:36:03] completely understand the

[2:36:04] opposition's. Ab for rather I've

[2:36:08] heard it loud and clear so I am

[2:36:09] not trying to assume that the

[2:36:12] opposition is- not sincere in

[2:36:16] their opposition or- is ready to

[2:36:19] speak full. But what I wanted to

[2:36:21] race is that what the farm

[2:36:23] beyond the sunset. What's being

[2:36:26] changed from what we approved in

[2:36:29] thirty five sb thirty five. Or

[2:36:31] so- as the number of units in

[2:36:34] particular projects that's one

[2:36:36] of the main changes in terms of

[2:36:38] these are the labor standards

[2:36:39] correct hello so it has to be

[2:36:42] clear on what the change was

[2:36:44] under under the original sb

[2:36:45] thirty five for anything for

[2:36:46] anything that was at least 50%

[2:36:48] to fifty to a 100% below market

[2:36:50] rate the restricted. It was

[2:36:51] straight up prevailing wage for

[2:36:54] anything that was mixed income

[2:36:56] below above I think twenty five

[2:36:59] units I believe that's the

[2:37:01] number it's gone up to- was-

[2:37:03] skilled. Skilled workforce-

[2:37:05] this- replaces dive- structure

[2:37:11] with prevailing wage for

[2:37:12] anything eleven and above and

[2:37:14] what once it hits fifty that and

[2:37:17] the health care requirements

[2:37:18] kicked and as well as the- the

[2:37:20] apprenticeship- requirements in

[2:37:23] the bill and the wage theft is

[2:37:25] ubiquitous throughout that sort

[2:37:27] of a how the structure change

[2:37:28] okay. So I guess. And again I

[2:37:35] don't want to for the off but-

[2:37:37] what I want to you is your will.

[2:37:39] to modify some of those either

[2:37:42] the numbers if that's the issue

[2:37:44] . Or or is it the range is it

[2:37:46] the mix of units in terms of

[2:37:49] mix- ford or portable. Again

[2:37:52] trying not yet presuming that

[2:37:54] what would address opposition

[2:37:59] concerns right before your- yes

[2:38:01] so I don't hi- to on the go

[2:38:04] share against myself I'm happy

[2:38:05] to sit down I'm sure with the

[2:38:07] carpenters the trades and to try

[2:38:09] to- have been negotiation.

[2:38:12] absolutely my door is always

[2:38:13] open- you know in in terms of

[2:38:18] what will be included in that

[2:38:19] negotiation and there were there

[2:38:21] are some items in the trades

[2:38:22] opposition letters. Which are

[2:38:24] items that are in about the

[2:38:26] skilled workforce versus prime

[2:38:27] wage which we think our trust in

[2:38:29] the bill but- you know sometimes

[2:38:31] people say you you think you're

[2:38:32] addressing it but it's drafted

[2:38:34] wrong and my- responses well

[2:38:35] tell me how it struck the wrongs

[2:38:37] I want to drop things correctly.

[2:38:39] to some of the items in the in

[2:38:40] the trades opposition letter.

[2:38:42] are you know I think I've been

[2:38:44] dressed but if not then I just

[2:38:45] want to know exactly how not and

[2:38:48] to my interest to know if they-

[2:38:50] if they think it hasn't been-

[2:38:52] address but I. My sense- having

[2:38:53] spoken the traits a lot about

[2:38:55] this is that the skilled

[2:38:57] workforce versus prime which is

[2:38:59] at the heart of it- and- you

[2:39:02] know weeds- like I said we were

[2:39:05] by aye I am very much would like

[2:39:07] to. Resolve it hi. I think

[2:39:09] you're- I think it would be a

[2:39:11] good thing- unfortunately you

[2:39:14] know like I said- I won said in

[2:39:16] a letter to us you know not

[2:39:17] reply won't talk about tangling

[2:39:20] weren't willingness to. Have

[2:39:21] those open discuss yes because

[2:39:22] I'm usually the quiet. One of

[2:39:31] the movement on your part to.

[2:39:33] yes I. We never. Means everyone

[2:39:38] is going to- to open my- you

[2:39:41] know I think I want to be here

[2:39:44] one and what I love love about.

[2:39:45] I know it's been long. As both

[2:39:47] were like were our house we are

[2:39:49] with streamlining right the are

[2:39:50] not saying category oppose or

[2:39:52] pose unless some. Because we

[2:39:54] have. To major labor organ. That

[2:39:56] have disagreement about which is

[2:39:59] the best- labor protections

[2:40:01] right we have the trades have.

[2:40:06] your advocating from. Side of

[2:40:07] the carpenters are advocating

[2:40:09] different of protections they

[2:40:11] both I think authentically

[2:40:13] believe it their protections are

[2:40:15] better- and you know. We had to

[2:40:18] go shuzhen twenty seventeen

[2:40:20] actually with the carpenters

[2:40:21] work involved we came to a

[2:40:23] resolution the traits of told me

[2:40:25] for the last few years that they

[2:40:27] don't support. Anymore the deal

[2:40:30] they agreed to in twenty

[2:40:30] seventeen which I respect no one

[2:40:31] is permanently bound to anything

[2:40:33] near deal that they agree to

[2:40:35] people can change our minds-

[2:40:37] but- you know I think initiation

[2:40:40] you know and that kind of

[2:40:42] dialogue. Would be helpful as

[2:40:43] you can tell them temperatures a

[2:40:45] little bit high- not right now

[2:40:47] but we've all seen that with

[2:40:49] bills that I think. Everyone had

[2:40:50] bills that temperature gets

[2:40:52] really high. And then as things

[2:40:54] progress. Over the course of

[2:40:59] legislative year. People start

[2:41:00] talking come to table. The

[2:41:01] temperature really on ab twenty

[2:41:03] eleven last year and there was a

[2:41:05] deal cut in in august so- I

[2:41:08] would love for that to happen.

[2:41:10] not everyone has to be open

[2:41:11] minded. Myself included and all

[2:41:13] the stakeholders to do that.

[2:41:17] thank you senator skinner- we

[2:41:20] have center cortese. Thank you

[2:41:23] thank you mister. I have a

[2:41:25] question for the author which is

[2:41:27] not a work for standards. You

[2:41:29] know and then I have- actually

[2:41:31] the question. Each for- the

[2:41:36] carpenters and in the building

[2:41:38] trades. Just so- one each six of

[2:41:41] the tornadoes. The question I

[2:41:45] have- for the author. And you

[2:41:49] may recollect this- engine in

[2:41:52] this in the past and some other.

[2:41:54] in some other. Form of saddam

[2:41:56] committee hearing. We have. In

[2:42:00] in san jose- ten council

[2:42:04] districts the- comprises about a

[2:42:08] hundred thousand population

[2:42:09] each. Each one having a single

[2:42:11] calls member representing the-

[2:42:13] m. As sb thirty five has. Been

[2:42:18] successfully applied and utilize

[2:42:20] their- what we're experiencing

[2:42:23] is- cancel members world and I

[2:42:28] don't mean the entire council.

[2:42:30] but only in in fairness to

[2:42:33] people not being here will

[2:42:34] mention specific names. But

[2:42:37] essentially- in in very clearly

[2:42:41] telling constituencies- court

[2:42:43] residential constituencies

[2:42:45] surrounding developed- I'm sorry

[2:42:49] sites that are to be developed.

[2:42:51] the because of sb thirty five-

[2:42:54] are precluded from from holding

[2:42:57] any meaningful hearings or

[2:43:01] discussions with the community.

[2:43:02] on those projects. I know. That

[2:43:05] that's not in the bill I know

[2:43:08] that serving in the bill

[2:43:09] understand the bill would- in

[2:43:12] effect do away with the

[2:43:14] necessity of a secret here read-

[2:43:16] but it also knows that there's a

[2:43:19] whole set of hearings leading up

[2:43:21] to that moment including general

[2:43:22] plan hearings- zoning hearings

[2:43:24] in in a lot of other things.

[2:43:26] where the city council puts

[2:43:28] imprint on what they want to see

[2:43:30] an area. Including objectives

[2:43:32] only standards that said- is

[2:43:37] what can be done. With the

[2:43:39] extension. Of the sb thirty five

[2:43:42] through this bill for twenty

[2:43:44] three this time around- to give

[2:43:47] us a fair shot is legislators in

[2:43:49] in terms of reporting- those.

[2:43:54] misleading statements are women

[2:43:55] call the misunderstandings

[2:43:56] because it's hard for me to

[2:43:57] believe that any. City is- let

[2:44:01] alone one as sophisticated as

[2:44:03] the third largest city the city

[2:44:04] california is in getting the

[2:44:06] proper legal advice in the

[2:44:08] proper understanding of the bill

[2:44:10] like this before they go out and

[2:44:12] talk to their constituents.

[2:44:14] regis it seems to me that we

[2:44:15] need to do some of that work if

[2:44:17] we want not to have blame

[2:44:18] shifting going on for a lack of

[2:44:21] community process in the

[2:44:22] neighborhoods could you speak to

[2:44:24] that agent one of there's a

[2:44:26] willingness to try to. Come up

[2:44:27] with something- in terms of

[2:44:28] state assistance maybe through a

[2:44:30] cd or somehow to get the word

[2:44:33] out constituents that they do

[2:44:35] have the right to continue

[2:44:35] asking for. Community meetings

[2:44:38] and discussion yeah. One thing

[2:44:41] that- figured about does not

[2:44:42] hello. The ability to facilitate

[2:44:44] wants to hold a hearing or or

[2:44:46] neighborhood meeting. They can

[2:44:48] do that- in my experience having

[2:44:50] watched the implementation of

[2:44:52] this bill for carefully for the

[2:44:54] last five years. If you are try

[2:44:56] if you're a developer with your

[2:44:58] nonprofit for will developer

[2:44:59] mark redevelopment if you were.

[2:45:01] in this and this for this whole

[2:45:02] affordable developers because

[2:45:04] there has been very very little

[2:45:05] on the market rate side- but- it

[2:45:09] is in your interest. To engage

[2:45:11] with the local community even

[2:45:13] though you have the ability to

[2:45:14] trigger a three thirty five and

[2:45:16] your- annual alternately trigger

[2:45:18] it. Which will protect the bill

[2:45:19] from sickle education for

[2:45:21] example. Five your life is gonna

[2:45:23] be a heck of a lot easier. If

[2:45:25] you have engage with the

[2:45:27] community and with the city

[2:45:28] council pine department- because

[2:45:30] sometimes it may be that they

[2:45:32] just want a few changes here and

[2:45:34] there consider this. And then it

[2:45:35] de escalates the situation and

[2:45:37] because you do have cities to

[2:45:39] try to nit pick every every

[2:45:40] little possible loophole it's a

[2:45:42] lot easier if the city is like.

[2:45:43] okay we're okay with this

[2:45:45] projects were not going to do

[2:45:47] that. And so and I think a lot

[2:45:49] of the not not every developer

[2:45:50] there's a range of developers.

[2:45:52] but there are plenty of

[2:45:53] developers who I think do. Not

[2:45:54] engage ahead of time and sb

[2:45:56] thirty five. Allows them to

[2:45:58] protect that. Of the project

[2:46:00] from from from the lawsuit so

[2:46:03] it. Any idea maybe you and I

[2:46:04] should talk any ideas you have

[2:46:07] I'm. I'm open to it- I mean into

[2:46:14] times so. Part to it might take

[2:46:16] some of. Very modest you know

[2:46:19] budgetary. Appropriation or some

[2:46:20] it's just the back. This of

[2:46:22] works upper apart for the bill.

[2:46:24] but would love to work with you

[2:46:25] on. In make sure of. In we're

[2:46:29] defending the good that.

[2:46:31] contained herein the in the disk

[2:46:33] - going- can you do to. Those

[2:46:35] per. For the to call. I have

[2:46:38] first. For the car. Of that so

[2:46:41] internal the any kerr is still

[2:46:42] here some who can. A question.

[2:46:44] on their behalf. Is this is this

[2:46:50] is a it's a pretty

[2:46:51] straightforward question here so

[2:46:53] I know it's not overly technical

[2:46:56] in nature- let me preface this

[2:46:59] by saying. I've so not recently

[2:47:02] visited the- the new carpenter's

[2:47:05] apprenticeship center of the on

[2:47:07] the south county santa clara

[2:47:10] county- it's just as recently.

[2:47:12] of visited. Huh the sheet metal

[2:47:15] workers- beautiful training

[2:47:18] center- in the city of san jose.

[2:47:22] both of these facilities as- was

[2:47:24] explained to me at the time

[2:47:25] we're not only state of the art

[2:47:28] but have capacity. Capacity to-

[2:47:31] you know to add a premises. Into

[2:47:34] attached them to jobs. When I

[2:47:36] read the language in the

[2:47:38] standards. In this bill asking

[2:47:40] the but this of the carpenters

[2:47:42] because- of your support for the

[2:47:45] bill sponsorship of the bill- it

[2:47:48] appears to me. If I'm if I'm

[2:47:53] reading this right in the marina

[2:47:56] verbatim all of- the on page six

[2:47:59] of sixteen of my documents here

[2:48:03] - culture to the construction

[2:48:05] cowboys must either participate

[2:48:07] in an apprenticeship program

[2:48:08] pruebas de california division

[2:48:10] of apprenticeship standards. As

[2:48:12] specified for request. The

[2:48:15] dispatch of the princes from the

[2:48:17] state approved apprenticeship

[2:48:19] program as specified. So if the

[2:48:21] contractor chooses. For the

[2:48:24] second part of that work request

[2:48:27] the dispatch of apprenticeships

[2:48:29] rather than participate. In

[2:48:31] apprenticeship program what

[2:48:33] guarantee do we have. Of adding

[2:48:37] or filling. Up the carpenters

[2:48:41] apprenticeship program for the

[2:48:43] sheet metal workers or anybody

[2:48:45] else is it seems to me that. If

[2:48:47] they request the dispatch of

[2:48:48] apprenticeships apprenticeships

[2:48:51] of a- for that job- in the

[2:48:54] responses we don't have. A put

[2:48:57] up enough to send out but we

[2:48:59] don't we need to send out. That

[2:49:01] the contractors off the hook you

[2:49:03] know in terms of driving

[2:49:04] apprenticeship and training and

[2:49:06] enrollment in the trades could

[2:49:08] you respond to the certainly-

[2:49:12] and thank you for the question

[2:49:13] senator. The language that

[2:49:14] you've quoted is a substantially

[2:49:16] the same language that is

[2:49:17] applied for decades to the

[2:49:20] public works sector of

[2:49:21] california which is accounting

[2:49:23] for about 20% of all

[2:49:24] construction in the state of

[2:49:27] california. Where it is either

[2:49:29] shall employer shall request.

[2:49:31] it's also language and we have

[2:49:33] successfully put thousands of

[2:49:35] apprentices we have nineteen

[2:49:38] thousand carpenter and drywall

[2:49:39] and power driver premises

[2:49:40] throughout the state that are

[2:49:43] actively registered as is-

[2:49:45] brother brad shaw said earlier

[2:49:45] turned out. And had graduated

[2:49:48] more than any other single union

[2:49:51] in the state. It public works

[2:49:52] has been in an important part

[2:49:54] along with private work for a

[2:49:56] check a cheating that level of

[2:49:57] success. I would also note that

[2:49:59] the language of having that

[2:50:01] request a good faith effort

[2:50:03] which is has to be documented-

[2:50:05] is parallel to th at the federal

[2:50:08] level language in the inflation

[2:50:10] reduction act. Enacted in twenty

[2:50:13] twenty to the state building and

[2:50:14] construction trades council

[2:50:15] lauded as a massive win for

[2:50:18] californian californians. It's

[2:50:20] language that in with that puts

[2:50:22] forward pairs prevailing wages

[2:50:24] with the partnership that's been

[2:50:25] a winning combination for

[2:50:26] decades already. For the ira it

[2:50:30] is the inflation reduction

[2:50:32] activities to expand into a new

[2:50:35] market place for energy

[2:50:37] efficiency work supported by tax

[2:50:40] credits. Similarly given the non

[2:50:42] union status of the private

[2:50:44] residential world and I should

[2:50:46] note half of publicly subsidized

[2:50:49] a 100% affordable housing which

[2:50:52] is not. We will be expanding.

[2:50:58] massively in fact we already

[2:51:00] have over the past five years of

[2:51:02] sb thirty five being in effect

[2:51:05] have seen dozens of projects.

[2:51:07] that have employed union journey

[2:51:09] level workers and union

[2:51:11] registered apprentices on the

[2:51:13] other hand we have not seen.

[2:51:16] union journey level. Workers

[2:51:18] party or union apprentices

[2:51:20] employed on projects that are

[2:51:23] held to a skilled and trained

[2:51:24] workforce pro. Stand

[2:51:25] requirements retinoid. I didn't

[2:51:28] say I want. To impose somebody

[2:51:31] else's language I'm just asking

[2:51:32] you why have permissive

[2:51:34] language. Win win. And I know

[2:51:38] appreciate everything the

[2:51:39] carbons are done to- to grow and

[2:51:43] develop their own apprenticeship

[2:51:44] program. Larger than the any any

[2:51:47] other union within the overall

[2:51:49] scope of the building trades but

[2:51:51] I also know from first talking

[2:51:53] to your leadership that the

[2:51:54] objective is to grow that much

[2:51:56] more to keep growing as- an and

[2:51:57] I don't know how you get there.

[2:52:00] that's why I asked the question

[2:52:02] how do you assure us for

[2:52:02] guaranteed us that this language

[2:52:04] gets you there if it's

[2:52:06] permissible would make more

[2:52:06] sense to say. That. Good have

[2:52:14] these first two. In language.

[2:52:17] that you could part to in this

[2:52:18] program for re this premises-

[2:52:26] for- or in role. Your work force

[2:52:28] in the apprenticeship program

[2:52:28] that current exists. What what

[2:52:31] would it say that. There's no.

[2:52:33] that there's put of non union

[2:52:34] workers and every one of these

[2:52:36] jobs at the builders are saying

[2:52:37] we want more housing production

[2:52:39] that's what we're doing this

[2:52:40] bill we want. Teams to

[2:52:42] streamline things we need to

[2:52:43] move quicker we've got people

[2:52:45] that want to go to work. Where

[2:52:47] we then seen wonderful will

[2:52:49] streamline. The objective so you

[2:52:52] can get your developments done

[2:52:54] much more quickly. But in

[2:52:56] exchange you need to do not just

[2:53:00] two of these things

[2:53:01] permissibility if they work and

[2:53:03] if they don't proceed nonunion-

[2:53:06] but you need to do one or the

[2:53:09] other. Or in effect- signatory

[2:53:12] what by would we say that with

[2:53:13] language that that. Simply says

[2:53:18] you you've got to have. What

[2:53:19] would have other been your non

[2:53:20] union force in the list before

[2:53:22] that sb thirty five project

[2:53:23] overly thomas b. Thirty five

[2:53:25] projects in this bill before

[2:53:27] that. Project commences. I

[2:53:29] certainly as a builder myself

[2:53:31] consisted. That a contractors

[2:53:34] who do not a new workers

[2:53:36] signatory if they want to come

[2:53:37] in my gate and I'm just asking

[2:53:41] why not have that language. The

[2:53:42] language which again you know

[2:53:44] has been part of california law

[2:53:45] for public works for decades his

[2:53:47] excellency works is I under I

[2:53:48] and I under I understand if I

[2:53:50] just ask you to speak to this

[2:53:52] bill. This for this bill what it

[2:53:54] what this offers and I would be

[2:53:56] happy to share with any member

[2:53:58] of the committee a map of where

[2:53:59] registered apprentices live

[2:54:00] currently. There are parts of

[2:54:02] california where frankly not

[2:54:04] every single trade has an

[2:54:06] adequate number of registered

[2:54:08] apprentices today tomorrow and

[2:54:10] for quite frankly walt the

[2:54:13] carpenters. Apprenticeships are

[2:54:15] open to anyone who's seventeen

[2:54:17] or over and with the g. D. Or an

[2:54:19] equivalent. That's not the case

[2:54:21] necessarily for all of the other

[2:54:23] pressure programs. We believe

[2:54:25] that we are in a housing crisis.

[2:54:28] and it is critical to ensure

[2:54:30] that we get as much as possible

[2:54:32] organized within the streamlined

[2:54:35] housing world. And that's- down

[2:54:39] to corner for is it takes two to

[2:54:40] tango it requires unions and

[2:54:42] pressure programs that are in

[2:54:43] growth mode- to participate that

[2:54:46] are- perhaps at times even

[2:54:48] willing. To send an apprentice

[2:54:51] to a non union job that's that

[2:54:53] that's an opportunity to spread

[2:54:56] the union gospel quite frankly.

[2:54:58] a member go there but- your- you

[2:55:01] know your your responses to my

[2:55:03] questions that I don't want to

[2:55:05] I'm not here to. You know to go

[2:55:07] any further with this- but I

[2:55:10] think you told from my comments.

[2:55:11] I think if we're going to get to

[2:55:14] a place of resolving. The

[2:55:16] current. Dispute if you will

[2:55:18] over. Workforce standards one

[2:55:21] thing that's going to have to be

[2:55:22] resolved this. Is how. We as a

[2:55:26] legislature effectuate a true.

[2:55:30] bargain here. Expedited

[2:55:33] expedited. Rules in sequel

[2:55:37] waivers in exchange for-

[2:55:40] workforce that's that's and

[2:55:42] rolled in the kind of screen

[2:55:43] that creates a california for

[2:55:45] all that's my position I

[2:55:47] appreciate your comments. L. Is

[2:55:48] also my position that I

[2:55:49] appreciate the bold work by all

[2:55:52] of you bill sponsors in the

[2:55:54] author I said that earlier just

[2:55:55] call just incorporate those

[2:55:56] comments by referencing in

[2:55:58] getting us to a place. Of for

[2:56:00] the first time in history the

[2:56:01] state where we're starting to

[2:56:03] actually streamlined- in and get

[2:56:06] production out of some of this

[2:56:07] legislation so thank you very

[2:56:09] much appreciate your your

[2:56:10] comments or just want to go over

[2:56:12] that peace with you and if I

[2:56:15] could. Just of the notebook a

[2:56:15] minute or two. With somebody

[2:56:17] representing the building

[2:56:18] trades- ever a question there

[2:56:21] and. It will be a single

[2:56:26] question. I apologize making a

[2:56:27] lasting question. Three- person

[2:56:31] who responded was so good he

[2:56:33] prompted two more questions. And

[2:56:35] think they can thank you right I

[2:56:37] don't know if you want to re

[2:56:39] identify yourself sure my name

[2:56:40] is alex lance burdett market

[2:56:41] with the building trades in the

[2:56:43] research and advocacy director

[2:56:44] for the san francisco.

[2:56:45] electrical construction industry

[2:56:46] so. If it's your position. That

[2:56:51] skilled and trained language as

[2:56:53] a as it currently exists in s.

[2:56:56] b. Sb thirty five. Which is not

[2:56:58] in as before twenty three. If

[2:57:01] you're saying. That old language

[2:57:04] if you will or their current

[2:57:05] language is not the problem

[2:57:07] that's that's holding up-

[2:57:09] production. Then the what is

[2:57:11] your explanation. Well I think

[2:57:13] the problem holding up

[2:57:14] production in california is the

[2:57:16] same per day is the same problem

[2:57:18] that's holding up production.

[2:57:20] throughout the country it's the

[2:57:20] same problem that's holding up

[2:57:21] production of tens of thousands.

[2:57:23] of entitled units that have no

[2:57:25] labor standards and it's the

[2:57:27] same problem that was holding up

[2:57:28] production of. Affordable

[2:57:29] housing they got bill dad's bill

[2:57:31] with prevailing wage standards.

[2:57:35] after the state gave it money.

[2:57:36] there's no money for this. The

[2:57:38] entire housing market if you

[2:57:39] take a look at. That a national

[2:57:42] data it's a it's gone in. You

[2:57:46] know it's kind of falling off

[2:57:48] falling down if you take a look

[2:57:50] at california production we but

[2:57:51] pretty much flatlined. Back to

[2:57:53] pre great recession levels maybe

[2:57:55] a little bit higher since about

[2:57:58] twenty seventeen since and

[2:57:59] despite two hundred seventy

[2:58:01] five. Streamlining building code

[2:58:04] changes as- hcd has told us we

[2:58:06] haven't really seen we haven't

[2:58:08] really moved the needle the

[2:58:09] fundamental problem is materials

[2:58:11] and prices are just ask about

[2:58:13] escalating it wildly and quite

[2:58:16] volatile- rents. Have gone down

[2:58:18] in the land the highest demand

[2:58:19] areas and frankly I think this

[2:58:21] is something that a lot of

[2:58:22] people to hold their of been

[2:58:24] multiple lawsuits and sb thirty

[2:58:26] five projects if you actually

[2:58:26] take a look at the dashboard. In

[2:58:29] a cd there are sixty there are

[2:58:30] over sixty five hundred units

[2:58:33] in. The I thirty five projects

[2:58:36] that would have had skilled and

[2:58:38] trained standards a number of

[2:58:39] them including one of the ones

[2:58:41] that- the club put forward by

[2:58:44] the by the gentleman who spoke

[2:58:47] in support. Were held up through

[2:58:48] a variety of different

[2:58:49] procedural delays so in short

[2:58:52] it's- your explanation is. As

[2:58:57] economics economic concerns and

[2:59:02] - in litigation to some it yes.

[2:59:04] I think so I don't want to over-

[2:59:07] we don't have time to. Dominate

[2:59:09] the meeting here but- if there's

[2:59:12] anything else say it and I just

[2:59:14] want to say hey- thank you for.

[2:59:18] your answer which is slated to

[2:59:20] the prayer witness and also a c.

[2:59:22] just like said per witness I

[2:59:23] think this needs to be it is an

[2:59:25] issue that needs to be resolved.

[2:59:27] the these the real answer to

[2:59:29] this question if we're going to

[2:59:31] be able to go forward to get

[2:59:33] this bill on the working

[2:59:34] standards side of it. In shape

[2:59:38] for general consensus among the

[2:59:39] legislature I appreciated center

[2:59:41] I think you and I think

[2:59:42] everyone's who's- rightfully

[2:59:44] worried about the housing crisis

[2:59:46] is looking for all sorts of

[2:59:47] things. To try to make things go

[2:59:49] but I think as we've been saying

[2:59:51] that continuing sort of private

[2:59:53] sector streamlining in light of

[2:59:54] this broad in the broad

[2:59:55] conditions that we have in the

[2:59:57] market right now is pushing on a

[2:59:59] string. And to do so by

[3:00:01] eliminating weakening labor

[3:00:02] standards not not going from

[3:00:05] zero to a prevailing wage

[3:00:06] standard but going from the gold

[3:00:07] standard that actually trains

[3:00:09] that are highers apprentices.

[3:00:11] creates a pathway for these

[3:00:12] workers to lower it. Is a loss

[3:00:15] for california thank you. Thank

[3:00:19] you ma'am sure. Thank you do we

[3:00:22] have. Any other members who like

[3:00:24] to speak. Okay so just a couple

[3:00:29] of comments on my on my end.

[3:00:35] it's my understanding that this

[3:00:36] bill. Does not exclude skilled.

[3:00:40] and trained labor force right

[3:00:42] workforce. I mean it it it

[3:00:44] doesn't exclude and they could

[3:00:45] still bid for these jobs if

[3:00:47] they're available after jobs-

[3:00:50] it's still it's still there for

[3:00:51] them as an opportunity. To be

[3:00:55] able to bid on the strongest.

[3:00:56] three will to yes this is this

[3:00:58] debate in some ways about which

[3:01:00] contractors are allowed to bid.

[3:01:03] on jobs skilled workforce you

[3:01:05] have to have a certain

[3:01:07] percentage of your workers- come

[3:01:09] out of. Particular meet certain

[3:01:11] qualifications service terms of

[3:01:13] apprenticeship program- at and

[3:01:15] so forth and they qualifies

[3:01:18] under the skilled workforce

[3:01:18] standard- and the contractors

[3:01:21] have to employee tax percentage

[3:01:22] depending on the craft. To

[3:01:24] qualify to bid on other

[3:01:26] contractors are not those

[3:01:29] contractors who will qualify. In

[3:01:33] the school workforce can still

[3:01:34] bid. The be more contract who

[3:01:36] were. To bid this work spanned

[3:01:38] the pool contractors who can bid

[3:01:40] and we know that in. Parts of

[3:01:42] the state there might. Very few

[3:01:44] contractors who can meet the

[3:01:46] skilled workforce standards. So

[3:01:48] it doesn't exclude them they're

[3:01:50] still included in the ability to

[3:01:53] bid for these jobs. Also in

[3:01:58] regards to the apprenticeship

[3:01:58] programs. When you limited to

[3:02:01] justice to this skilled

[3:02:04] workforce training still

[3:02:05] workforce. You're limiting the

[3:02:07] amount the- the number of

[3:02:09] apprenticeship programs that

[3:02:10] actually qualify to be able to

[3:02:13] bid on these jobs to this would

[3:02:15] open it up to an array of

[3:02:16] apprenticeship. Programs that

[3:02:18] aren't- that are actually

[3:02:21] approved by the state. Is that

[3:02:25] correct. Yes yes okay. So it it

[3:02:30] opens up more apprenticeship

[3:02:32] programs- in the state to be

[3:02:35] able to. To work for this in it

[3:02:38] also- opens the ability to have

[3:02:41] more opportunity for work for

[3:02:44] approximately four hundred

[3:02:46] thousand workers that don't

[3:02:48] necessarily- belong to a

[3:02:51] specific apprenticeship program

[3:02:53] but belong to any apprenticeship

[3:02:55] program. In the state the mayor

[3:02:57] may not. And also when we talk

[3:03:01] about workforce standards I was

[3:03:03] just asking for clarification on

[3:03:05] that whether or not. Fusing it

[3:03:08] meant labor code or construction

[3:03:10] code- the versus- and I believe

[3:03:14] it's labor code labor code is

[3:03:17] labor code in california right.

[3:03:20] any construction house to meet

[3:03:23] those standards- in california

[3:03:27] is that is that not correct

[3:03:28] labor code is they were cut it

[3:03:31] doesn't very. Her apprenticeship

[3:03:33] program or no apprenticeship

[3:03:34] program or any apprenticeship

[3:03:36] program. Is that correct- I see

[3:03:40] people nodding their head may

[3:03:41] day kerr with the carpenters the

[3:03:43] labor code is essentially

[3:03:44] designed for public works there

[3:03:46] are there are workers there are

[3:03:48] other codes for the workforce in

[3:03:52] general. But on public works you

[3:03:53] have to meet the labor codes

[3:03:55] that have to do with prevailing

[3:03:57] wages and prices. And if you are

[3:03:59] non union contractor you still

[3:04:00] have to meet those codes if you

[3:04:02] don't have a premises because of

[3:04:04] their labor management programs

[3:04:05] generally. Use than request

[3:04:07] practices from the programs that

[3:04:10] have them. If they fulfill that

[3:04:13] request then you met your up the

[3:04:16] standard for apprentices if they

[3:04:18] don't. Meet their request of

[3:04:20] third don't send to they don't

[3:04:21] have them or in some unions

[3:04:23] don't send them to non union

[3:04:25] contractors. Then you've gone

[3:04:26] through the process of asking

[3:04:27] and not receive them so you have

[3:04:29] for fill that requirement you

[3:04:31] cannot pay anybody

[3:04:32] apprenticeship wages after that

[3:04:35] because that's also did- the

[3:04:37] governed by the labor code

[3:04:39] sections. But the wages are

[3:04:41] outside of labor code sections.

[3:04:43] I think the minimum wage that

[3:04:45] applies to all workers on

[3:04:46] construction or anywhere

[3:04:48] actually. You do not have to

[3:04:50] meet any other labor any other

[3:04:52] way each and in that for

[3:04:54] construction. And that this bill

[3:04:57] will specify prevailing wage

[3:04:59] that's correct on the floor. And

[3:05:00] it's not like it's not a public

[3:05:02] works as senator criticizing

[3:05:04] this. Asking but it does require

[3:05:06] you meet a prevailing wage which

[3:05:08] you have to pay. And it does

[3:05:10] require if you don't have a

[3:05:11] prince's over fifty units you

[3:05:13] then have to request apprentices

[3:05:15] through the normal process that

[3:05:17] you would request princes to

[3:05:18] print ship. Part of friendship

[3:05:20] standards if you get them you

[3:05:22] have to use them and some crafts

[3:05:24] will send them some won't. As

[3:05:26] you heard and if you don't get

[3:05:28] them but you've applied then

[3:05:29] you've met. Your requirement but

[3:05:35] you cannot pay hey those.

[3:05:36] prevailing mean those approach

[3:05:38] wages which are lower. So I

[3:05:40] don't have to helps and then-

[3:05:41] just for the concert code to

[3:05:42] everyone whether your in in an

[3:05:44] apprenticeship program or not.

[3:05:47] the special. Shook his art union

[3:05:49] or not construction code is the

[3:05:51] same. And inspectors are. On

[3:05:54] site. That reviewed the work yes

[3:05:58] already and the construction is

[3:05:59] quality will be overseeing. That

[3:06:03] in making sure that construction

[3:06:05] code is being mad at those sites

[3:06:07] as correct okay. All right I

[3:06:11] think- and I have one last

[3:06:12] question for the doctor and

[3:06:14] that's with regards to sunset.

[3:06:16] date would you be- flexible open

[3:06:20] to discussions on perhaps

[3:06:22] extending that. That sunset if

[3:06:26] necessary. To the reason why we

[3:06:28] chose to remove the suns- is we

[3:06:30] not five years of experience

[3:06:32] with sb thirty five five so

[3:06:34] we've- sort of seen the

[3:06:35] mechanics of it and I think it

[3:06:37] makes sense. Perfect as I

[3:06:39] mentioned to you this morning I

[3:06:40] would be shocked if the sunset

[3:06:42] issue didn't come up. Over the

[3:06:45] next. Six months- of our

[3:06:48] legislative process were in

[3:06:50] negotiations around the bill- so

[3:06:53] I'm- I'm sure that'll be an

[3:06:55] issue- that will be part of. A

[3:07:00] dialogue. And I am. I do one

[3:07:02] more I'm one I'm supposed to ask

[3:07:05] . And page thirty eight of a-

[3:07:09] the bill that the bill yes ma'am

[3:07:11] is a supplement about her. Okay

[3:07:16] beginning online twenty of the

[3:07:17] bill the lang read. Thirty six.

[3:07:25] nine twenty one. Hello yeah k.

[3:07:26] the language. Not any law for

[3:07:29] purposes of this section and for

[3:07:32] the development of on property

[3:07:34] owned by or at least to the

[3:07:36] state. The department of general

[3:07:38] services may act in the place of

[3:07:40] a locality or local government

[3:07:42] at the discretion of the

[3:07:44] department. Question is it your

[3:07:48] intent with this provision to

[3:07:49] grant the state with authority

[3:07:52] to enter into a long term lease

[3:07:55] with the developer. And then act

[3:07:58] in place of the locality or

[3:08:00] local government for purposes of

[3:08:03] developments. The sisters find

[3:08:06] them the reason why that's in

[3:08:08] there we- because we've had

[3:08:10] enough five years of experience

[3:08:12] we've seen some. Of any

[3:08:14] complicated bill you're going to

[3:08:15] see technical issues out to be

[3:08:17] fixed as it's implemented hi and

[3:08:19] there was one particular project

[3:08:21] if he was in the lake tahoe area

[3:08:23] work it was in a city that

[3:08:25] qualified for sb thirty five

[3:08:26] project. Fully qualified except

[3:08:28] because there was a state sign

[3:08:30] off that had to happen because

[3:08:32] it was in the lake tahoe area.

[3:08:34] it became ineligible rescue

[3:08:36] thirty five because sb thirty

[3:08:38] five currently has no mechanism

[3:08:40] and it is a project otherwise

[3:08:42] fully qualifies. But the state

[3:08:45] has to make some sort of

[3:08:46] decision no matter how minor

[3:08:48] that decision it simply gets

[3:08:50] kicked out of sb thirty five.

[3:08:51] and the purpose of this

[3:08:52] provision is to say that if

[3:08:54] there is not senate state owned

[3:08:56] property I know that yeah I

[3:08:58] think you have a bill to

[3:08:59] streamline on state. Owned

[3:09:03] property. The state having to

[3:09:05] make it this. Does not x. The

[3:09:07] project rescue three five and it

[3:09:10] would be the of euro service.

[3:09:12] that would be the that would. Be

[3:09:14] able to consent so I hope that

[3:09:15] makes sense- but that was our

[3:09:16] purpose is not in any way to

[3:09:18] aggrandize the state it's

[3:09:19] expensive cities this is for

[3:09:20] situations where- where the

[3:09:23] state has some sort of sign up

[3:09:25] either because of state owned

[3:09:26] land to the something the state

[3:09:27] has to do- that. Would currently

[3:09:30] kick it out of sb thirty five

[3:09:31] entirely. Thank you. Senator

[3:09:37] later- any other are common.

[3:09:39] okay we have a motion with it by

[3:09:43] saturday bob. Senator will hop.

[3:09:45] that makes motion to compel. I'm

[3:09:50] sorry. Which is to close. You

[3:09:54] for enough for me I risk ask and

[3:09:56] I don't. Thank you. L. Seven

[3:10:00] motion and secretary. The senate

[3:10:03] for senate bill for three by sen

[3:10:04] wiener the motion to pass and

[3:10:06] river the can. Under and finance

[3:10:08] senator wiener. Wiener hi the

[3:10:09] troubled by what chau book hi

[3:10:12] click here five clicks here hi.

[3:10:18] or does he- courtesy hi mcguire

[3:10:20] . Padilla they are to. See no

[3:10:23] skinner hi skinner hi I'm- bob I

[3:10:28] bob five. One of the role from

[3:10:34] the case. We have. House. Thank

[3:10:52] you.

[3:11:06] sure okay it's good to be

[3:11:10] sitting again. We will now and I

[3:11:13] want to the can for its as we

[3:11:15] want to two. Linkedin's we now

[3:11:18] move to item three s. Three for

[3:11:19] one vice. Tucker who is says you

[3:11:23] make. You may present your bill

[3:11:27] thank you for your patience. I

[3:11:29] think you could after that chair

[3:11:30] and thank you up to prison as

[3:11:34] three for one. Housing element

[3:11:35] comply for and housing

[3:11:36] incentives are important to for

[3:11:37] k. To the housing- the housing

[3:11:39] it needs. Over these tools

[3:11:40] should be at a pro actors assisi

[3:11:42] and counties of course are there

[3:11:45] sometimes important programs are

[3:11:45] private before the housing

[3:11:47] developers who have no control

[3:11:49] over local government actions

[3:11:51] are the applicants. The results

[3:11:53] are is that developers to do the

[3:11:55] right thing and bring for a

[3:11:57] house in a less than friendly

[3:11:59] jurisdictions are penalized by

[3:12:00] the state. In some cases like

[3:12:02] affordable housing sustainable

[3:12:03] communities program in eligible

[3:12:06] to apply if the cedar county

[3:12:08] does not have an approved

[3:12:10] housing element. In other cases

[3:12:12] a qualifying infill program- the

[3:12:18] - but portion of infill

[3:12:18] infrastructure program they lose

[3:12:20] pro housing points and therefore

[3:12:21] not competitive. With sb three

[3:12:24] forty one strikes the right

[3:12:26] balance of incentivizing local

[3:12:26] governments to adopt pro housing

[3:12:29] policies while not penalizing

[3:12:31] developers who bring a former

[3:12:32] housing to low income families

[3:12:34] who need for but housing in

[3:12:36] these less housing friendly

[3:12:38] jurisdiction. The bill plus pro

[3:12:40] housing incentives in housing

[3:12:42] element compliance rituals only

[3:12:43] to state programs which cities

[3:12:45] and counties as opposed to

[3:12:47] private a former housing

[3:12:47] developers. Part the primary

[3:12:49] applicants with that I've to

[3:12:51] witnesses here today. Marks

[3:12:55] stivers and courtney how. Good

[3:12:55] afternoon march diverse with

[3:12:57] california housing partnership-

[3:12:59] as a center said we are very

[3:13:00] much in favor of pro housing

[3:13:02] incentives and housing I'm a

[3:13:03] compliance. But if we want to

[3:13:05] change local government behavior

[3:13:06] we have to incentivize with them

[3:13:08] with things that they want

[3:13:10] transportation funds park funds

[3:13:11] general fund. The nine them

[3:13:13] housing funds when they're

[3:13:14] resistant to housing justin able

[3:13:15] enables that resistance and so

[3:13:17] this bill actually strikes the

[3:13:19] right balance and make sure

[3:13:20] that- developers who are trying

[3:13:22] to build housing in communities

[3:13:23] that may be less than friendly.

[3:13:25] are able to bring that housing

[3:13:28] are able to get state funding to

[3:13:29] do so- think about an example

[3:13:31] where a community is resistant

[3:13:33] of housing they're able to use

[3:13:34] something like sb thirty five to

[3:13:36] get approval we wouldn't want to

[3:13:38] penalize that developer having

[3:13:39] done exactly we wanted them to

[3:13:41] do which was to bring affordable

[3:13:43] housing. To community of to all

[3:13:44] communities in the state. So we

[3:13:47] are dr- today thank you. Great

[3:13:53] good afternoon jerry narron

[3:13:54] members of the committee my name

[3:13:56] is courtney powell and I'm with

[3:13:57] resources for community

[3:13:58] development or rcd as were known

[3:14:00] in the field. I'm here in

[3:14:02] support of sb three forty one a

[3:14:04] bill that would more

[3:14:06] appropriately align incentives

[3:14:06] for housing element compliance

[3:14:08] and housing policies. Our city

[3:14:10] is a nonprofit affordable

[3:14:12] housing developer providing over

[3:14:14] twenty five hundred rental homes

[3:14:15] throughout the bay area. With an

[3:14:16] additional one thousand units in

[3:14:19] pre development and

[3:14:20] construction. Unfortunately our

[3:14:20] ability to access funding for

[3:14:23] these people and projects is

[3:14:24] currently jeopardized by

[3:14:25] regulations that penalize

[3:14:26] affordable housing developers.

[3:14:28] for the shortcomings of local

[3:14:29] jurisdictions. Nonprofit

[3:14:31] developers like our cd cannot

[3:14:33] apply for funding receiving

[3:14:34] award or have funds disbursed by

[3:14:37] the state unless the local

[3:14:38] government. Where are four wheel

[3:14:39] housing developments are located

[3:14:41] has met certain housing element

[3:14:42] compliance milestones. This

[3:14:44] spring three of our developments

[3:14:46] will compete for state funding

[3:14:47] under the affordable housing and

[3:14:48] sustainable communities program

[3:14:50] and all three of those

[3:14:51] developments are in

[3:14:52] jurisdictions without a

[3:14:53] complaint housing element. As a

[3:14:56] result we will take on it the

[3:14:57] significant an undue risk of

[3:14:59] preparing extensive applications

[3:15:01] and potentially even executing

[3:15:03] award agreements. Pending the

[3:15:04] result of a local government

[3:15:06] process that we have absolutely

[3:15:08] no control over. This will have

[3:15:10] replication throughout the

[3:15:11] capital stack of these

[3:15:12] developments as tax credit

[3:15:13] investors and private lenders

[3:15:17] react to the additional

[3:15:18] uncertainty. The threshold

[3:15:19] requirement has the unintended

[3:15:20] and unfortunate consequence of

[3:15:22] adding additional complication

[3:15:23] and cost affordable housing

[3:15:25] development process. This issue

[3:15:28] is not isolated to the three

[3:15:29] developments at this moment in

[3:15:30] time. Over 75% of our city's pre

[3:15:33] development portfolio is located

[3:15:35] in one of the many bay area

[3:15:37] jurisdictions that do not

[3:15:38] currently have a compliant

[3:15:39] housing element. And

[3:15:41] additionally some jurisdictions

[3:15:42] that we work in one have a

[3:15:43] complaint housing element for

[3:15:45] another year or more. Sb three

[3:15:48] forty one would remove the

[3:15:49] threshold requirements the state

[3:15:50] enforcement of housing element

[3:15:51] law does not delay affordable

[3:15:54] housing construction. Realigning

[3:15:56] this incentive will ensure that

[3:15:57] developers like rcd can continue

[3:15:59] to build affordable housing for

[3:16:00] the low income californians who

[3:16:03] desperately need it. Thank you.

[3:16:05] thank you very much we will now

[3:16:07] go to additional support for

[3:16:10] this bill the state your name

[3:16:12] organization and the fact of

[3:16:15] your support. Marino white with

[3:16:17] the california housing

[3:16:18] consortium in support. Amberley

[3:16:21] leslie legislative advocate with

[3:16:23] housing california in support.

[3:16:25] anyone else in support. Okay is

[3:16:29] there any opposition to this

[3:16:30] bill or we have no registered

[3:16:32] opposition anyone in opposition

[3:16:36] . Okay say none will go to the

[3:16:37] phone lines with a moderator

[3:16:38] please- call any support or

[3:16:41] opposition from public comment.

[3:16:44] tell me if you are into border

[3:16:46] opposition sb three forty one is

[3:16:49] one nine zero. Support or

[3:16:52] opposition of s. Eighty three

[3:16:57] forty one. One seven zero. We do

[3:17:02] have a couple fueling up here to

[3:17:04] be just a moment.

[3:17:15] we will go to the line thirty

[3:17:18] two please go ahead. Aye allen

[3:17:20] and schallert and monsanto in

[3:17:23] support thank you. Thank you to

[3:17:28] be just one moment here we have

[3:17:30] two other ones that have queued

[3:17:32] up. We will go now to line.

[3:17:46] three ninety nine. I number

[3:17:47] three ninety nine your line is

[3:17:48] open. Good afternoon turn

[3:17:49] members thanks for having this

[3:17:51] hearing this is dealing dobbins

[3:17:52] that's part of the california

[3:17:54] coalition for rural happening in

[3:17:56] strong support of sb three forty

[3:17:58] one. Thank you. Thank you there

[3:18:01] are no other thank you at this

[3:18:03] time okay thank you very much

[3:18:04] we're back to the committee

[3:18:05] colleagues any questions or

[3:18:07] comments for the author yes

[3:18:08] under voice here this seems like

[3:18:10] a great bill and I'm happy to

[3:18:13] support thank you for thinking

[3:18:14] of it. Great any other questions

[3:18:16] or comments okay we have a

[3:18:18] motion by cineplex marc amending

[3:18:21] an aye vote on this bill- would

[3:18:23] you like to close respectfully

[3:18:25] ask for a vote thank you- will

[3:18:27] call the roll. Senate bill three

[3:18:30] forty one by senator booker the

[3:18:31] motion is to pass and referred

[3:18:32] to committee on appropriations

[3:18:34] senator wiener wiener hi which-

[3:18:36] book. To book hi blix here by

[3:18:39] like zero zero. Courtesy mcguire

[3:18:43] videa. There are two right there

[3:18:47] too hi. Umberg burke I bob. Okay

[3:18:54] the good karma as far two zero

[3:18:55] will put it call for us and-

[3:18:58] thank you senator. Okay we're

[3:18:59] now going to skip four for them-

[3:19:02] moments we'll go back to that-

[3:19:04] later we're gonna go to item

[3:19:06] number. Of five. I see center

[3:19:10] career- okay we will- three.

[3:19:25] okay I am going to present seven

[3:19:27] remains of ours still males- and

[3:19:32] saw him a couple back over to a

[3:19:34] very spiritual book. I'm gonna

[3:19:37] I'm gonna present from my-

[3:19:39] jessica concerning enough today

[3:19:42] . Thank you senator wiener and-

[3:19:44] please. When you're ready please

[3:19:49] present- file item number four

[3:19:52] sp four fifty six on behalf of

[3:19:54] senator mitchell park please

[3:19:56] okay thank you madam vice chair

[3:19:58] I want so I'm extra happy to

[3:20:00] present in the store for center

[3:20:01] mintmark because I have-

[3:20:02] authored another version of this

[3:20:04] bill. In the past and I'm

[3:20:06] thrilled with senator menjivar

[3:20:08] introduced said I'm. Proud to be

[3:20:12] a joint authors are still. At

[3:20:14] four fifty remove barriers to

[3:20:15] housing for our most vulnerable-

[3:20:17] young people- young people

[3:20:21] exiting the foster care system

[3:20:22] exiting the criminal justice

[3:20:25] system are experiencing

[3:20:25] homelessness- current law

[3:20:27] directs the california

[3:20:28] interagency council on

[3:20:30] homelessness to establish goals

[3:20:32] to prevent youth homelessness

[3:20:33] and support increasing the

[3:20:34] capacity of new and existing

[3:20:36] service providers. For example

[3:20:37] home to two point no but only

[3:20:40] public agencies can be the lead

[3:20:42] applicant for these projects sb

[3:20:44] four fifty six law expand

[3:20:45] program eligibility. For this

[3:20:48] funding by allowing community

[3:20:49] based organizations that

[3:20:51] currently provide transitional

[3:20:53] housing or emergency shelter to

[3:20:55] be eligible for use only home

[3:20:57] key projects we have some

[3:20:58] amazing. Nonprofits around

[3:21:00] states that are very experienced

[3:21:02] and helping you to get off the

[3:21:05] streets and helping them

[3:21:05] transition. To a better life one

[3:21:07] of the most california. Counties

[3:21:09] do not have to specific homes

[3:21:11] programs- and we need to make

[3:21:14] sure that are non profits that

[3:21:16] help these young people- are

[3:21:18] able to help them exit and

[3:21:19] access is funding directly and

[3:21:21] not have to rely on. The

[3:21:23] possibility that the local

[3:21:26] government will try to access.

[3:21:28] the funding. If we can help

[3:21:30] these young people stabilize

[3:21:32] their lives and become pals at a

[3:21:34] younger age- we will avoid- them

[3:21:38] spiraling into chronic

[3:21:39] homelessness and help them get

[3:21:41] on a better track can help save

[3:21:44] their lives. So. Respectfully

[3:21:48] ask for and I don't. Thank you

[3:21:53] very much so- wiener. Now let's

[3:21:55] hear per from any witnesses in

[3:21:56] support in to assist lead

[3:21:58] opposite let need support.

[3:22:00] perfect thank you at center

[3:22:01] wiener and committee members

[3:22:03] thank for the opportunity speak

[3:22:04] about the importance of sb four

[3:22:06] fifty six which both on senator

[3:22:07] wiener's leadership to secure

[3:22:08] funding for. Housing and

[3:22:10] homelessness to address there.

[3:22:12] are states most vulnerable youth

[3:22:14] and kristen power with the

[3:22:15] alliance for children's rights.

[3:22:16] the critically important to

[3:22:17] invest increase housing

[3:22:18] availability to ensure that all

[3:22:20] who want to participate in our

[3:22:21] extend foster care program can

[3:22:23] take full advantage of the

[3:22:24] program and unaccompanied

[3:22:25] homeless youth. Are safely and

[3:22:27] stably housed to prevent the

[3:22:29] heightened risk of their

[3:22:29] entering homelessness we deeply

[3:22:31] appreciate center image of ours

[3:22:32] leadership on this issue area

[3:22:34] and senator wiener's continuing

[3:22:36] support to prioritize developing

[3:22:38] safe and stable housing for

[3:22:39] youth. Respectfully ask your aye

[3:22:43] vote. Good evening himmler's

[3:22:45] representing the california

[3:22:46] coalition for youth when the co

[3:22:48] sponsors of the spell and just

[3:22:49] in light of the hour I'll just

[3:22:52] keep my remarks start I wanted

[3:22:53] to share a story about a young

[3:22:55] person but- also for that for

[3:22:56] another day and the power of

[3:22:58] these housing interventions are

[3:22:59] really what's going to change

[3:23:00] the trajectories of our young

[3:23:01] people's lives. And support them

[3:23:02] to be successful in the future

[3:23:04] and that's what we want for all

[3:23:06] of our young people. And it's a

[3:23:08] way for us to really check out

[3:23:10] the what away at the unsheltered

[3:23:11] numbers of our young people who

[3:23:12] are sleeping at the street

[3:23:13] california has seventy point 5%

[3:23:15] of our young people counted that

[3:23:17] are unsheltered. And so this is

[3:23:18] a bill to really solve that.

[3:23:19] challenge and we really want you

[3:23:20] to say yes today and know that

[3:23:22] when we invest in our young

[3:23:24] people were investing in them

[3:23:25] and we believe in them we

[3:23:27] believe in our future so

[3:23:28] appreciate us. Thank you. Thank

[3:23:30] you very much now we're going to

[3:23:32] move forward and- openers for

[3:23:34] sorry. Stars given or the space-

[3:23:36] is this on their behalf of the

[3:23:38] california academy of child and

[3:23:39] adolescent psychiatry in support

[3:23:41] as well as california state

[3:23:42] association of psychiatrists in

[3:23:44] support. Thanks thank you. And

[3:23:47] c. N. N. F. And what children

[3:23:50] now in support. Thank you do we

[3:23:53] have any other witnesses in

[3:23:55] support. Sb four fifty six

[3:23:59] hearing room top hundred. C.

[3:24:02] nine will now move on to the

[3:24:04] witnesses in opposition. Let's

[3:24:07] hear from opposition witnesses

[3:24:10] in room. Twelve hundred. Scene

[3:24:14] nine. That's great thank. You

[3:24:17] will now move on to witnesses

[3:24:19] waiting to testify idea to

[3:24:20] teleconference service. Will be

[3:24:22] limiting phone testimony to

[3:24:25] twenty minutes for all bills

[3:24:26] during this hearing. If you are

[3:24:29] in support or opposition. S. B.

[3:24:31] u. Four fifty six it is one

[3:24:36] seven zero. Let's start with my

[3:24:38] number forty five. Your number

[3:24:41] three and on behalf of

[3:24:42] california court appointed

[3:24:43] special advocates association or

[3:24:45] cal costs in support of sb four

[3:24:48] fifty six thank you. Thank you

[3:24:51] next we will go to line number.

[3:25:00] three fifty one. He won. Hello

[3:25:05] where. Hi my name is brad

[3:25:10] richards mobile cooperative

[3:25:11] local one eighty I miss support

[3:25:13] a fifty twenty one. Thank you

[3:25:17] next we'll go to line numbers

[3:25:19] thirty two please go ahead. I am

[3:25:23] not found open front support

[3:25:24] thank you so much. Thank for the

[3:25:30] next to a bottom line number for

[3:25:31] all. Five okay the only park on

[3:25:36] behalf of replace the youth and

[3:25:38] the part. Thank you an actual to

[3:25:42] line number. Three ninety eight.

[3:25:45] mandarin be on behalf of the

[3:25:48] california alliance family

[3:25:49] services in shock report. Thank

[3:25:52] you and we do not have any more

[3:25:54] in the queue manager. Thank you

[3:25:57] madam moderator. Thank you to

[3:25:59] all our support in opposition

[3:26:01] witnesses will now bring the

[3:26:03] discussion back to our members.

[3:26:05] seeing no discussion or

[3:26:08] questions from our members-

[3:26:11] senator when would you like to

[3:26:12] close. On behalf of senator

[3:26:14] mandatory surplus from the vote

[3:26:18] . We have motion. Follow the

[3:26:21] plan thank you senator umberg we

[3:26:22] have a motion that I'm secretary

[3:26:25] please call the roll. The senate

[3:26:26] bill for thirty six for senator

[3:26:28] menjivar the motion is to pass

[3:26:29] and refer the committee on human

[3:26:31] services center wiener. Wiener

[3:26:33] hi but chau book I the troubled

[3:26:35] by blix verify like spare us

[3:26:37] camaro cortese mcguire padilla.

[3:26:41] there are two. Zero two five

[3:26:44] skinner number. Number five the

[3:26:48] house. Five the vote is five

[3:26:53] zero will the role open our and

[3:26:55] caps members thank you in work.

[3:26:57] check okay were I think centers

[3:27:01] . Will be presenting on behalf

[3:27:03] of center caballero just on our

[3:27:05] way- back so we'll first pause

[3:27:11] to eight. The centers for about

[3:27:12] three level other bill in the.

[3:27:21] nineteen this please call me or

[3:27:23] come back. This year's. This is

[3:27:34] a rural voters skinner number of

[3:27:37] with. Twenty three. She was a

[3:27:42] yeah. Okay so- have two bills

[3:27:46] vice cover that will present by

[3:27:48] centers will start with item

[3:27:51] five as b. Thirty so. He. Thank

[3:27:59] you of chair and members please

[3:28:01] to present sb three seven behalf

[3:28:02] of kerr. Sb thirty seven create

[3:28:04] a program to per house subsidy

[3:28:06] to all adults. It and adults

[3:28:07] with disabilities who are x. Or

[3:28:08] are at risk of experiencing

[3:28:10] homelessness. We know that folks

[3:28:13] with who are older car rather

[3:28:15] californians who are older or

[3:28:18] with disabilities are finding it

[3:28:20] in. Creasing lee difficult to

[3:28:22] afford the high cost of housing

[3:28:26] . And with their fixed incomes

[3:28:28] that they live on our in

[3:28:30] adequate to cover rising rents.

[3:28:33] for extremely low income renters

[3:28:34] roughly eight out of ten spend

[3:28:36] more than 50% of their monthly

[3:28:39] income on rent. People with

[3:28:40] disabilities comprise about 46%

[3:28:44] of those who experience

[3:28:45] homelessness an african american

[3:28:47] households are more than five

[3:28:48] times as likely to experience

[3:28:50] homelessness as compared to.

[3:28:53] general population californians

[3:28:55] . So while there are programs

[3:28:56] such as the home safe program in

[3:28:58] the homeless disability program.

[3:29:00] there is no comprehensive state

[3:29:02] program to provide housing

[3:29:04] subsidies for older and disabled

[3:29:06] adults who are on fixed incomes.

[3:29:08] and housing vouchers such as

[3:29:10] section eight and other things

[3:29:12] like that often can take years

[3:29:14] for applicants to access there's

[3:29:16] most of us know they have long

[3:29:19] waiting lists. And the only

[3:29:20] accommodate fraction of eligible

[3:29:22] applicants so what sb thirty

[3:29:25] seven does is provide a rent

[3:29:26] subsidy targeted to those older

[3:29:28] adults and the adults with

[3:29:31] disabilities. Who are homeless

[3:29:31] or at high risk of falling into

[3:29:33] homelessness it establishes the

[3:29:36] older adults and adults with

[3:29:37] disability housing stability act

[3:29:40] within the department of housing

[3:29:43] and community development. To

[3:29:43] administer an offer competitive

[3:29:44] grants to nonprofit

[3:29:46] organizations continuum's of

[3:29:48] care and other organizations

[3:29:50] that can provide the service. In

[3:29:52] the grantees will provide

[3:29:54] subsidies to help older adults

[3:29:56] and adults with disabilities

[3:29:57] remain housed with the subsidies

[3:30:00] covering the difference between

[3:30:02] 30% of households. Income in the

[3:30:06] units reasonable rent. By

[3:30:07] investing in subsea such as this

[3:30:08] we can help. These californians

[3:30:12] who deserve to be house and with

[3:30:14] that I would like to have dr

[3:30:16] markel margo shell- who is a

[3:30:20] researcher on homelessness and

[3:30:22] sharon rappaport from the-

[3:30:25] california state policy for the

[3:30:26] corporation for supportive

[3:30:29] housing be the witnesses. Thank

[3:30:30] you senator skinner nice to see

[3:30:32] you again and mark because shall

[3:30:33] from ucsf. Do we know that

[3:30:35] california's homeless population

[3:30:37] is aging. In our recent

[3:30:39] statewide study of homelessness

[3:30:41] almost half of all adults

[3:30:43] experiencing homelessness in the

[3:30:44] state are now fifty and older.

[3:30:47] we know from our research as

[3:30:48] adults were fifteen older and

[3:30:50] homeless have health problems

[3:30:51] much more similar to those of

[3:30:53] adults in their seventies and

[3:30:55] eighties and approx me half of

[3:30:56] them first become homeless after

[3:30:59] fifty. These are not folks with

[3:31:01] a lot of significant substance

[3:31:03] use and mental health problems

[3:31:04] but their house is terrible.

[3:31:07] very how you to emergency

[3:31:08] departments very high use of

[3:31:11] hospitalizations prolonged and

[3:31:12] avoidable stays in nursing homes

[3:31:14] and they die at three and a half

[3:31:16] times the rate that they would

[3:31:18] be expected had they been house.

[3:31:20] california's housing

[3:31:21] affordability crisis

[3:31:22] disproportionately impacts older

[3:31:24] adults they're more likely to be

[3:31:26] severely cost burdened and this

[3:31:27] disproportionately affects older

[3:31:29] black californians as well.

[3:31:32] let's say in our longitudinal.

[3:31:35] study of older homeless adults.

[3:31:37] the good is 80% became re housed

[3:31:39] over the course of the study the

[3:31:41] bad news is 50% of those who

[3:31:43] regained housing became homeless

[3:31:44] again. Within about a year of

[3:31:46] becoming every getting their

[3:31:48] housing the only thing that

[3:31:50] prevented that. With subsidies

[3:31:52] the folks a subsidy state house

[3:31:53] to everyone else just returned

[3:31:56] nearly announced returned to the

[3:31:57] streets. Homelessness among

[3:31:58] older adults is reaching crisis

[3:32:00] proportions in their states

[3:32:01] subsidies for these individuals

[3:32:03] at high risk of homelessness and

[3:32:05] those who recently exited

[3:32:06] homelessness. Are in evidence

[3:32:08] bay based way to prevent this

[3:32:10] catastrophe would be happy to

[3:32:13] take any questions if you have

[3:32:15] them. Good afternoon sharon

[3:32:19] members I'm sure in report with

[3:32:21] the corporation for supportive

[3:32:22] housing a national nonprofit

[3:32:24] working to solve homelessness.

[3:32:25] we are one of five sponsors of-

[3:32:28] sb thirty seven. Sb thirty seven

[3:32:31] offerings offers proven

[3:32:32] interventions to achieving the

[3:32:34] master of the california master

[3:32:36] planned for aging goal of

[3:32:37] preventing and ending

[3:32:39] homelessness among older adults

[3:32:41] . As the analysis suggested and

[3:32:42] doctor crystal mentioned housing

[3:32:45] subsidies are one of the most

[3:32:46] successful interventions in

[3:32:48] preventing and solving

[3:32:49] homelessness. Unlike other state

[3:32:52] programs as b. Thirty seven uses

[3:32:54] a flexible approach to providing

[3:32:56] housing subsidies. They can find

[3:32:58] shallow subsidies to allow

[3:32:59] people on fixed incomes to

[3:33:01] remain house. And a few local

[3:33:03] programs follow this model of

[3:33:04] funding subsidies- and have

[3:33:07] found that as little as two

[3:33:09] hundred dollars a month. Can

[3:33:10] keep somebody and housing-

[3:33:12] safely for the rest of their

[3:33:15] lives. It also allows local

[3:33:16] grantees are for deep subsidies

[3:33:18] for those who are experiencing

[3:33:20] homelessness. The most

[3:33:22] challenging task of crafting a

[3:33:23] prevention program is

[3:33:25] identifying people who would

[3:33:27] become homeless without the

[3:33:28] assistance so as to be thirty

[3:33:31] seven uses data from the

[3:33:32] california policy lab. To

[3:33:33] identify risk factors and

[3:33:35] predictors and added in a five

[3:33:37] people most likely to fall into

[3:33:39] homelessness. In this way as b.

[3:33:42] thirty seven is unique as it

[3:33:44] dedicates resources to those

[3:33:45] truly at risk of homelessness.

[3:33:47] three one time funding the

[3:33:48] program would serve tens of

[3:33:50] thousands of older adults and

[3:33:51] people with disability at the

[3:33:53] greatest risk of becoming

[3:33:54] homeless. The similar to other

[3:33:56] state programs finally this

[3:33:59] program calls on the state to

[3:34:00] connect participants to federal

[3:34:02] vouchers. For their making this

[3:34:07] program unique. We senator cover

[3:34:08] yet as leadership senator

[3:34:09] scanners on this bill and we ask

[3:34:12] for your aye vote thank you.

[3:34:15] digital support. Benji with

[3:34:19] inner city law center where skid

[3:34:21] row's pro bono legal services

[3:34:22] visor and we serve homeless

[3:34:23] folks throughout la county- very

[3:34:27] third support this bill. Because

[3:34:31] the on behalf of western center

[3:34:33] on law and poverty in support.

[3:34:36] is this on their behalf of

[3:34:37] madera county board of

[3:34:39] supervisors and support thanks.

[3:34:43] rebecca markets on behalf of two

[3:34:45] of the bill's co sponsors

[3:34:46] leading h. California and

[3:34:47] justice in aging thank you.

[3:34:52] amberley leslie with housing

[3:34:53] california in support of a ski.

[3:35:00] thirty seven. March the average

[3:35:01] for the california housing

[3:35:02] partnership in support thank you

[3:35:05] . A brian leahy- aarp volunteer-

[3:35:08] on behalf of a three point two

[3:35:11] million members in support.

[3:35:13] thank you any additional

[3:35:14] support- in the room. Thirty

[3:35:19] nine is there any opposition to

[3:35:20] this bill we have no registered

[3:35:21] opposition but anyone here

[3:35:23] opposition. Focusing on will

[3:35:25] open the phone lines for the

[3:35:27] moderator please see if there's

[3:35:29] anyone on the line for this bill

[3:35:31] . You are in support or

[3:35:33] opposition sb thirty seven it's

[3:35:36] one then zero. And we will start

[3:35:39] with my number one thirty q. My

[3:35:46] number one thirty two your line

[3:35:47] is open. Sorry we will move on

[3:35:53] to the next here and it is my

[3:35:55] number four oh six please go

[3:35:58] ahead. Mister chairman burke

[3:36:01] anderson up top of the arc in

[3:36:03] united terrible of the

[3:36:04] california coalition a

[3:36:06] collaboration excuse me and we

[3:36:08] have a support system thank you

[3:36:11] . Thank you and we do not have

[3:36:13] anymore in the queue. Okay will

[3:36:17] report to the committee any

[3:36:18] questions or comments colleagues

[3:36:20] senator boxer. She added the

[3:36:22] information that you shared

[3:36:23] senator skinner and also the

[3:36:25] testimony today it was all very

[3:36:26] persuasive and I'm really

[3:36:27] excited about supporting this

[3:36:28] bill thank you for the motion is

[3:36:30] a motion. For an emotional

[3:36:31] center place for any other

[3:36:33] questions or comments thirty

[3:36:35] nine- you may close on behalf of

[3:36:37] senator copyright ask for your

[3:36:38] I. Boats terrific we will call

[3:36:42] the roll. But I'm recommending

[3:36:44] an aye vote. The senate thirty

[3:36:45] seven messana where most to pass

[3:36:48] referred committee on human

[3:36:49] services senator wiener. Wiener

[3:36:51] I trouble I the troubled by

[3:36:54] clicks here five six hereby

[3:36:55] cover. Partisi. Courtesy hi

[3:37:00] require for the a fair to. Their

[3:37:04] to five skinner five skinner I-

[3:37:06] burke number five will. Okay

[3:37:11] voters seven zero will put bill

[3:37:13] on call for apps members. We're

[3:37:14] now going roads were final bill

[3:37:16] and speak two two five center

[3:37:19] caballero I will also be

[3:37:20] presented by centers skinner.

[3:37:22] percent thank you mister chair

[3:37:23] members pleased to present s. B.

[3:37:26] two two five on behalf of

[3:37:27] senator cafiero. The bill

[3:37:29] creates the community anti

[3:37:31] displacement preservation

[3:37:33] program for cap within the

[3:37:36] department of housing and

[3:37:36] community development. In that

[3:37:38] program will provide financial

[3:37:39] resources and technical capacity

[3:37:41] building to community

[3:37:43] organizations and local

[3:37:44] jurisdictions that which to

[3:37:46] acquire funds subsidized housing

[3:37:49] from the speculative market

[3:37:51] where the residents in that

[3:37:53] housing are at risk for

[3:37:56] displacement. And then the after

[3:37:58] the purchase would preserve it

[3:37:59] as affordable rental housing for

[3:38:01] homeownership opportunity. A

[3:38:04] large majority of low income

[3:38:05] californians live in

[3:38:07] unsubsidized affordable housing

[3:38:10] housing which is privately owned

[3:38:12] and currently somewhat

[3:38:14] affordable to low income

[3:38:15] households but of course over

[3:38:17] time may not be or could be sold

[3:38:19] in might not be. So due to a

[3:38:21] variety of reasons this unserved

[3:38:23] diced affordable housing is

[3:38:25] rapidly disappearing in response

[3:38:27] local communities have begun to

[3:38:30] acquire it. And preserve it the

[3:38:33] strategy is known as acquisition

[3:38:35] rehabilitation. Or act recap.

[3:38:40] yeah under. This new pro cap hcd

[3:38:43] would admit. A program to

[3:38:45] provide grants and loans for

[3:38:47] applicants an eligible borrowers

[3:38:49] such as nonprofits are local

[3:38:50] public entities such as housing

[3:38:52] trusts. Can help offset the cost

[3:38:55] to acquire and rehabilitate fund

[3:38:58] subsidized market rate housing.

[3:39:00] s. B. Two two five also creates

[3:39:02] a technical assistance program

[3:39:04] to support cap borrowers by

[3:39:06] providing peer to peer learning

[3:39:08] and consultation to assist with

[3:39:10] resident engagement in education

[3:39:12] property assessment affordable

[3:39:14] housing operations and a

[3:39:16] spectrum of ownership and

[3:39:17] stewardship models. So that the

[3:39:20] any- are borrowers under the cap

[3:39:22] program can be sus successful-

[3:39:26] so this is an innovative

[3:39:27] partnership that will help

[3:39:28] preserve housing that is

[3:39:30] currently affordable but is not

[3:39:32] in any kind of program to

[3:39:34] preserve its long term put

[3:39:36] affordability. And to testify in

[3:39:38] support we have just seen

[3:39:39] markets from the enterprise

[3:39:40] community partners and amber lee

[3:39:42] leslie with housing california.

[3:39:47] welcome thank you senator

[3:39:50] skinner and thank you mister

[3:39:51] chair and committee members my

[3:39:53] name is justin markets and I'm

[3:39:55] the policy director with

[3:39:56] enterprise community partners in

[3:39:58] our northern california office.

[3:40:00] enterprise is a national

[3:40:01] nonprofit that develops

[3:40:03] technical and capacity building

[3:40:05] programs advocates for policies

[3:40:07] and delivers the capital to

[3:40:08] create and preserve affordable

[3:40:10] housing for low income families.

[3:40:12] we're proud to co sponsor s. B.

[3:40:15] two two five authored by senator

[3:40:16] cafiero to create the cap

[3:40:19] program. Through enterprises

[3:40:20] work both in california and

[3:40:22] across the country we've seen

[3:40:24] first hand that there's no

[3:40:25] silver bullet to addressing our

[3:40:27] housing and homelessness crisis

[3:40:29] we need a comprehensive approach

[3:40:31] and preservation specifically

[3:40:33] acquisition we have which is the

[3:40:35] focus of this bill. Is an

[3:40:37] important tool in the state's

[3:40:38] toolbox to promote affordability

[3:40:41] prevent displacement and prevent

[3:40:42] homelessness. For a communities

[3:40:45] across the state local nonprofit

[3:40:47] organizations community land

[3:40:49] trust cities housing authorities

[3:40:51] have been doing this type of

[3:40:52] innovative acquisition work over

[3:40:55] for over a decade. As a senator

[3:40:58] described these organizations

[3:40:59] are purchasing rental housing

[3:41:01] from the private market were low

[3:41:02] income households live today and

[3:41:04] preserving it as deed restricted

[3:41:07] affordable housing for the long

[3:41:08] term. Cap was envisioned and

[3:41:10] designed based on the lessons

[3:41:12] learned and best practices from

[3:41:13] these local efforts the design

[3:41:15] of this program is grounded in

[3:41:17] this engagement with local

[3:41:18] practitioners. As well as

[3:41:20] lessons learned from other state

[3:41:22] programs at the housing

[3:41:23] community development

[3:41:24] department. We modeled at this

[3:41:26] program off of the success of

[3:41:28] each city's golden state

[3:41:28] acquisition fund which for over

[3:41:30] a decade has provided

[3:41:32] acquisition capital for land to

[3:41:34] build new housing. Cap is

[3:41:36] designed in this model as a

[3:41:38] partnership between each city

[3:41:40] and nonprofit lenders who can

[3:41:42] distribute program funds quickly

[3:41:43] and efficiently to the

[3:41:45] nonprofits and public sector

[3:41:47] partners they need to purchase

[3:41:48] these residential buildings at

[3:41:50] the speed of the private market

[3:41:52] . These nonprofit developers

[3:41:54] community based organizations

[3:41:56] housing authorities will then

[3:41:57] manage these buildings as deed

[3:41:59] restricted affordable housing

[3:42:02] either rental or homeownership.

[3:42:04] we like to say acquisition

[3:42:06] preservation is a to bird one

[3:42:09] seat approach the program both

[3:42:09] prevents displacement and

[3:42:11] homelessness for residents

[3:42:12] living in these buildings today

[3:42:13] while also growing our supply of

[3:42:15] deed restricted affordable homes

[3:42:17] for decades to come. It is a

[3:42:19] fast and efficient strategy

[3:42:21] would deals closing in months

[3:42:22] rather than years and also often

[3:42:25] has cost efficiency is relative

[3:42:27] to new construction. We hear

[3:42:29] from our local partners

[3:42:30] regularly about the impact of

[3:42:32] their acquisition rehab efforts

[3:42:34] the families were able to stay

[3:42:35] in their communities close to

[3:42:36] jobs and schools. But we also

[3:42:38] hear about the missed

[3:42:40] opportunities the community

[3:42:41] minded landlord for example

[3:42:43] who's approaching retirement and

[3:42:44] wants to ensure the stability of

[3:42:46] their tenants. And sell to a non

[3:42:48] profit organization rather than

[3:42:50] institutional investor. But

[3:42:52] there's not currently a state

[3:42:53] program for these organizations

[3:42:56] to utilize in these instances.

[3:42:57] sb two to five in cap were

[3:42:59] designed to fill this gap and we

[3:43:01] respectfully urge your aye vote

[3:43:02] to support continuing to move

[3:43:04] this bill forward and this

[3:43:05] conversation forward this year

[3:43:07] happy to answer any questions

[3:43:08] thank you. Correct thank you

[3:43:14] chair wiener members of the

[3:43:15] committee my name is amber lee

[3:43:17] leslie I'm a legislative

[3:43:19] advocate with housing

[3:43:19] california. One of the proud co

[3:43:22] sponsors of this bill. Housing

[3:43:24] california we're statewide

[3:43:26] advocacy organization that

[3:43:27] brings together a diverse multi

[3:43:29] sector network to prevent and

[3:43:32] end homelessness increase the

[3:43:33] supply of safe. Stable

[3:43:35] affordable housing options and

[3:43:37] reverse the legacy of racial and

[3:43:40] economic injustice. Published

[3:43:41] our work by building power among

[3:43:43] the people most impacted by the

[3:43:44] housing and justice- and

[3:43:46] advocating for statewide policy

[3:43:48] solutions. So the idea before

[3:43:50] you today the cap program I was

[3:43:52] born from the work of the stable

[3:43:54] homes california coalition of

[3:43:56] which are organizations are part

[3:43:58] in a press community partners

[3:43:59] and housing california. To

[3:44:01] create housing policy solutions

[3:44:02] that responded to the economic

[3:44:05] strains placed upon vulnerable

[3:44:07] communities at the height of the

[3:44:08] pandemic. Since twenty twenty

[3:44:10] our coalition of cap supporters

[3:44:11] has grown to include community

[3:44:13] development corporations.

[3:44:15] community land trusts nonprofit

[3:44:17] housing developers intent

[3:44:19] advocacy groups and so far

[3:44:22] ninety five organizations have

[3:44:23] endorsed the cap program.

[3:44:25] capitalizes a strategy for

[3:44:27] growing california's housing

[3:44:28] stock that was will rise by

[3:44:30] project home key. But cap is

[3:44:32] unique because it provides

[3:44:33] critical resources to protect

[3:44:35] existing housing units without

[3:44:37] long term affordability

[3:44:38] covenants from being lost to the

[3:44:40] speculative housing market- I

[3:44:43] just wanna share a bit of data

[3:44:45] that. Is going to be cut

[3:44:46] forthcoming in a report from-

[3:44:48] one of the state homes coalition

[3:44:50] members a california housing

[3:44:51] partnership. The estimate that

[3:44:53] over a hundred and twenty

[3:44:55] thousand multi family know what

[3:44:56] properties lost affordability in

[3:44:58] just the last two years since we

[3:45:00] as a coalition have been working

[3:45:01] on this policy. And most of

[3:45:03] those have been in southern

[3:45:05] california in the bay area and

[3:45:06] fresno and san diego and also

[3:45:07] here in sacramento. So the

[3:45:09] legislature must continue to

[3:45:11] invest in programs that keep for

[3:45:13] housing- and create more

[3:45:15] housing. A couple keep low

[3:45:17] income californians in their

[3:45:18] homes and increase the supply of

[3:45:21] affordable housing more swiftly

[3:45:22] than the- a is your swiftly and

[3:45:24] effectively than the car. The

[3:45:25] new production therefore we

[3:45:27] respectfully urge I thought

[3:45:28] thank you for indulging at. Five

[3:45:35] march there's the california

[3:45:36] housing partnership in support

[3:45:37] of this innovative approach to

[3:45:39] keep affordable what we already

[3:45:40] have thank you. But the merging

[3:45:44] with an early intercity

[3:45:46] lawcenter stocks for investors

[3:45:47] to do five. So you just. Simply

[3:45:50] because the on behalf of western

[3:45:52] center on law and poverty in

[3:45:54] support. Eddie carmona camping's

[3:45:57] rectorate people california in

[3:46:00] strong support of s. B. Two two

[3:46:02] five. Building report with the

[3:46:03] corporation for supportive

[3:46:05] housing in strong support. Good

[3:46:09] evening turn members on this for

[3:46:10] almost on the of a public

[3:46:11] advocates as co sponsors of sb

[3:46:14] two to five in strong support.

[3:46:15] thank you. Good afternoon. Mr

[3:46:20] chairman members of the

[3:46:21] philadelphia cranks here on

[3:46:22] behalf of silicon valley at home

[3:46:24] action fund in strong support.

[3:46:27] abram deals of the nonprofit

[3:46:28] housing association or the

[3:46:30] californians support. Your

[3:46:34] members michael getting here on

[3:46:35] behalf of us for habitat for

[3:46:38] california and also united way

[3:46:41] of los angeles in support thank

[3:46:43] you. Thank you. Any other-

[3:46:45] support. Okay three nine will

[3:46:48] get opposition we've never

[3:46:49] registered opposition but if

[3:46:51] there is opposition please come

[3:46:52] forward. Okay see now will go to

[3:46:55] the phone lines for the-

[3:46:57] moderator please queue up any

[3:47:00] public comment on the phones.

[3:47:03] your in support or opposition of

[3:47:05] s. P. Two twenty five london

[3:47:08] zero. And we will start with my

[3:47:12] number four oh nine. Service.

[3:47:18] six four nine your line is open

[3:47:22] . Hey we will move to the next

[3:47:25] line of for ten please go ahead

[3:47:28] sir. Senate bill five. The

[3:47:33] simpsons for had. It was

[3:47:37] reverend ray fong number have

[3:47:38] now the grass been just a fully

[3:47:41] yeah behind and fifty or ninety

[3:47:42] chandler. The state of. And

[3:47:45] trump- also I am reading from

[3:47:47] fort frances fox from orange

[3:47:50] county. Yes. Thank you will go

[3:47:55] to law up all for call. My

[3:48:03] number four oh for your line is

[3:48:05] open. Okay we will move to line

[3:48:11] number for all h. Please go

[3:48:14] ahead. Thank you karen members

[3:48:16] dealing dobbins with the

[3:48:17] california coalition for rural

[3:48:19] housing strong support. And we

[3:48:25] have. Four oh nine- committee

[3:48:30] members building with the san

[3:48:31] diego confederations when strong

[3:48:33] supporter that's b. Two two five

[3:48:35] thank you. Thank you and we do

[3:48:37] not have any more in q. Mister

[3:48:40] chair converted back to the

[3:48:41] committee- colleagues any

[3:48:42] questions or comments about this

[3:48:44] bill. Senate race here yes all

[3:48:48] move motion by center books for-

[3:48:50] any else- greased- yes and

[3:48:53] although I just have a question

[3:48:55] so. With this bill- known as

[3:49:01] vehicles here we have a to pass

[3:49:03] on the cost of effective way to

[3:49:04] increase supply of affordable

[3:49:06] homes in california so we're

[3:49:07] doing is we're taking. What

[3:49:10] would be in regular housing.

[3:49:13] homes and placing them in this

[3:49:14] category the becomes affordable

[3:49:16] sustain christmas supply right

[3:49:18] it's just. This is shifting from

[3:49:23] one. One area to another area or

[3:49:25] I can answer- hi it would take

[3:49:29] it out of the speculative

[3:49:31] markets so in other words it is

[3:49:33] housing now and I'm sure all of

[3:49:35] us know of some properties in

[3:49:37] our areas where. For whatever

[3:49:39] reason the owners have kept them

[3:49:41] affordable either there's

[3:49:44] sometimes its absentee owner

[3:49:46] sometimes it's an owner with

[3:49:47] lots of properties and they just

[3:49:49] you know they- have- are. But

[3:49:52] when they sell. Ab it- then is-

[3:49:56] brought up to a market level and

[3:49:57] the people who are living there

[3:49:59] can no longer afford so what

[3:50:01] this would do is create a

[3:50:02] program to help support those

[3:50:04] entities that want to purchase

[3:50:06] these type of properties and

[3:50:07] already in my district we have a

[3:50:09] number of community land trusts

[3:50:11] that have been doing this for

[3:50:13] some time. And so we have a

[3:50:14] number of properties that were

[3:50:16] that are now permanently

[3:50:18] affordable or thirty five year

[3:50:20] you know deed restricted in

[3:50:21] such. That weird then the

[3:50:23] tenants are- you know are able

[3:50:25] to afford it no have confidence

[3:50:27] that they're going to be able to

[3:50:29] afford it for long term. So it's

[3:50:31] yes it is it is not increase

[3:50:34] supply however it keeps certain

[3:50:36] housing that otherwise wouldn't

[3:50:39] be affordable. But their

[3:50:41] portable because we're

[3:50:42] subsidizing not necessarily no.

[3:50:46] it's it- it it's more that we

[3:50:49] are supporting the- those

[3:50:52] entities that want to try to

[3:50:54] purchase this type of program.

[3:50:56] this type of a building there

[3:50:58] might be a- armed. I'm trying to

[3:51:01] understand the concepts it would

[3:51:02] initially help. The so if I'm

[3:51:05] that land trust for example the

[3:51:08] way they can programs

[3:51:09] constructed. That if it succeeds

[3:51:12] in is approved and signed into

[3:51:13] law. That there might be grants

[3:51:16] or loans to that land trusts for

[3:51:18] example or another entity that

[3:51:20] is trying to buy that it's not

[3:51:22] an ongoing subsidy it's not

[3:51:23] something that. Continues to be

[3:51:25] subsidized overtime it's more de

[3:51:28] initial helps and do the initial

[3:51:30] acquisition were the initial

[3:51:32] rehab. So the grants to make it

[3:51:34] so that it becomes affordable it

[3:51:36] may not it it makes it in in

[3:51:38] naples the entities trying to

[3:51:40] purchase it to purchase it or re

[3:51:43] habit. Then the entity itself

[3:51:44] does. The deed restriction it

[3:51:49] keeps affordable. Okay thank you

[3:51:52] . But if. Any other questions or

[3:51:55] comments. Okay see now we have a

[3:51:58] motion by simply experience

[3:52:00] center center you may close- I

[3:52:01] will take the answer in two of

[3:52:03] my description of my own

[3:52:04] experience with such a thing is

[3:52:05] as my clothes on behalf of a

[3:52:08] cinder copyright nasri right

[3:52:09] vote. We will call the roll.

[3:52:14] this is an adult two five or can

[3:52:16] . The motion to pass for the

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[3:55:47] hi mcguire. Air tests. Eight

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[3:55:57] considered. Okay- voters's in on

[3:56:02] bill is house. Wonderful four

[3:56:07] hours and fifteen minutes not

[3:56:09] too bad- I want to. Thank all

[3:56:12] the members for persevering

[3:56:14] through a lengthy hearing a very

[3:56:15] good discussion if you want to

[3:56:18] thank our staffs- for is always

[3:56:19] doing amazing job in all of the

[3:56:20] supporters and opponents of all

[3:56:22] the bills who came out today

[3:56:23] thank you everyone I'm without-

[3:56:28] this hearing is adjourned.

Senate Housing Committee

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