Planning & Zoning Commission November 14, 2023

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[0:00] 6:30 someone to call the meeting to order and Ro Hall Commission elire here
[0:06] commissioner mayor commissioner bar here commissioner Hughes commissioner Borman
[0:12] yes commissioner Hoffman here [Music]
[0:24] Bagley pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the for
[0:35] stands indivisible and justice for
[0:41] all the first item on the agenda is review and approval of PR meeting
[0:46] minutes this would be the minutes um attached to your packet from 6:13 does
[0:51] anyone have any um thing to discuss regarding the pr
[0:58] minutes we have
[1:06] a all those in favor all those
[1:11] opposed all right that brings us to the um action part of the agenda and this is
[1:19] the public hearing piece regarding the request for vbo uh property at 222
[1:24] Denton and I will open the public hearing piece of the
[1:30] meetings so at this time we have if anybody from the public would like to
[1:34] have anything to say if you would stand and state your address and your name
[1:38] before speaking um and then you'll have your opportunity to speak so that's open
[1:42] at this time can I talk about something other than the
[1:46] vbo or should I wait I think we should start with a vbo piece of it and let's
[1:52] get through that and we we'll see what where it
[1:55] goes hi yes ma'am I am Kelly Conor 222 Den street that is my
[2:02] resident and I just want to say that the reason for the vbo is that I do travel a
[2:08] lot and in traveling a lot I have family here which is I have two daughters and
[2:14] two son-in-laws Aubrey and Eli are from
[2:19] Calia root here children that go to school here I've been involved in things
[2:24] here um my other son and daughter they in Paulsville all of which are very
[2:30] close in the event that something does occur if I am out of town um the other
[2:35] thing is that I've had the privilege of staying at thr rollin's house the sne
[2:39] house seeing sisters for and I am familiar with Betty and some of the
[2:44] others that are in the community and um I love centrea I've um been coming here
[2:50] for the past seven years and um the the community itself it
[2:56] seems to be a very tight k tight-knit Community and a very caring Community
[3:02] the the owners of the different facilities or stores within
[3:07] the square and that I've come across everybody has always been very friendly
[3:10] and very welcoming and it's nice to see that the community is
[3:14] growing um and it does seem even with Hubble and the different Honeywell the
[3:20] things that are around much less all of the colleges that are
[3:24] here that um the need is there for the additional space to say um it is a four
[3:32] bedroom house and I'm doing my very best since I've been here I put a roof on the
[3:38] house we've done new Landscaping to the house um the inside is furnished very
[3:45] nicely and modestly so that it's comfortable but for us when we're here
[3:49] but also for anybody that may come in it's family friendly and it's child
[3:54] friendly um the fence the yard is gated um and I think it would be I think
[4:00] it would be a lovely addition it's not a matter of it's uh the intention is not
[4:04] for it to disrupt the community or disrupt the block there are a lot of
[4:08] children on the Block so whatever is you know whatever
[4:12] is required of the city I'd be glad to um you know if you need documents or
[4:16] present anything I'd be happy to do that all right thank you
[4:21] um did we have anyone else to speak regarding the
[4:27] vbo yes ma'am um I just got to meet Kelly I readed tashy at
[4:34] 217 so I'm just kind of this way from her my main concern when I got the
[4:42] letter that it was going in was now are are we going to have to give up our nice
[4:47] quiet neighborhood are our children going to
[4:50] be at risk that run up and down the streets and and
[4:58] um is there some kind of condition people have to have to go and stay in
[5:04] there and then on the other hand I think well I have friends that come to visit
[5:11] people at Sunnydale and they might like a place to
[5:16] stay and so I don't I'm not either yay or nay
[5:22] I just kind of wanted some answers inform to what to expect okay cuz I
[5:28] really never never by
[5:31] [Music] a whatever and actually I've never heard
[5:37] of one before and but I've never lived by that to see what kind
[5:44] of in and out traffic comes so uh since I've gotten more information
[5:53] I'm getting excited about it and happy for Kelly if she can find
[6:00] to stay in there and and give her a little extra money on the side
[6:07] there well thank you anyone else regarding the
[6:13] drbo so I did receive two phone calls um they were just concerned about the the
[6:21] In-N-Out traffic what it would do to the neighborhood basically what what Rita
[6:24] said and Kelly kind of addressed there um but that was that just concerns and
[6:30] asking questions on what a vbo is and that sort of thing okay well if there's
[6:37] and your your thing is not related to this at all okay so I'm going to keep it
[6:42] completely separate um so with nobody else regarding the vbo what I'm do is
[6:47] I'll close the public hearing piece of it I'll bring it back to um the
[6:53] commission the board we are sorry it's been a long day um to have any questions
[6:59] for you and and I'll actually I'll actually start that first to address
[7:04] some of the concerns that I know that you have um we do have a very detailed
[7:10] um um ordinance or code thank you code
[7:16] regarding VBS that we put in when Betty uh came to us a couple years ago and
[7:21] requested to put in the roll Street house and IT addresses most I think
[7:25] everything that you're concerned about as far as having to detail out what's
[7:29] expected of a of a renter or somebody that would be coming into that um they
[7:34] have to sign an agreement when they rent these properties they have to adhere to
[7:38] those agreements as part of that and I think that you addressed that um well
[7:44] with your son-in-laws and your family that are here close by is that the owner
[7:49] of the house has to have somebody to be able to respond within 25 minutes should
[7:53] something occur that become a nuisance I think the last thing that anybody wants
[7:59] to have have happened is to disrupt the family quiet neighborhood or or put
[8:03] Children at Risk and I don't think that we've had any incidents with the ones
[8:06] that we've had so far that I know of um so just on my behalf of of stating to
[8:12] Tri to address your concerns I think that we've well detailed that out in our
[8:16] our current code so um does anybody have any questions
[8:21] regarding the the request for the Dr from our go ahead well uh since
[8:28] we in the past I was pres for one of them I don't know the street it was an
[8:35] R2 it was okay um Rollins was R1 sne Street
[8:42] R2 Airbnb is a company Vero is a company that's not a defined type of housing
[8:51] they have a contract with you and then the proposed tenants have a contract
[8:57] with them also or with you the cont the contract is with me but
[9:04] part of having BRBO or Airbnb if you use it that way is it also vets people a lot
[9:10] of the people that come through there um at even as someone if they come into
[9:15] your home if they come in there to rent it they get rated as well as somebody
[9:20] that stays there they are rated as a as a bad person so everybody that's on vvo
[9:26] that has a property whether it's good or bad able to put a comment on there also
[9:31] so if they go somewhere else that it can be you know they they're there are
[9:36] things to protect the people in place whether it's you as the owner of the
[9:41] property with a lease with even like you said even with Betty when I rented my
[9:46] initial with Betty and continued with her for a little bit I had to sign a
[9:51] paper with her so primarily it's going to be with
[9:56] me right as the police department or to your knowledge either the property
[10:03] owners of the other properties had that they W able to deal with been any
[10:10] complaints from the citizens about these not that I'm aware of from the existing
[10:13] ones that we have yes I don't I don't think we've heard anything
[10:18] um in the in the aspect of anything happened or any problems have been
[10:24] brought to our attention I don't if anybody else is or
[10:27] anything I mean I know Betty was happy enough with it she's
[10:31] doing a second one right so I mean I myself I use VB quite
[10:37] extensively so I'm familiar with what you have to sign to be able to rent one
[10:41] of these properties [Music]
[10:45] and like 41 is that Chris yeah and I can I mean I
[10:51] personally can say that when you go in to rent one of these you're making an
[10:56] investment so most people here
[11:02] from joining Chris's party so most people that are going to rent one of
[11:08] these properties they have to put down us you know they're putting down quite a
[11:12] bit of money ahead of time and then they're investing into this so it's not
[11:18] it's not something that's not very well detailed out just from my experience so
[11:22] for what it's worth I mean I've never had a I've never been able to rent a
[11:27] property that didn't require quite a commitment you mention the current owner
[11:36] is looking at having a second operation that means there's a public demand for
[11:41] these facilities in town seems to be we got three we have three right now and I
[11:46] I would imagine that if Betty had put the first she put in Rollin Street and
[11:49] then she's putting in that second one and I can imagine if she didn't have the
[11:52] demand she would probably not make that investment no bet but that's my opinion
[11:57] me sorry I'm auy I live at 320 southman um I'm her daughter her middle daughter
[12:03] um when like she brought this idea to us especially with like my sister and us
[12:09] living pretty close by and local like we're just three blocks over I've talked
[12:15] to friends I'm friends with people here and they a lot of people have said even
[12:20] people in Columbia they're like that'd be great for like I know it's not close
[12:24] to like mou games and stuff but you run out of places to stay where it's close
[12:30] enough to get back and forth and then also with second Saturdays like blowing
[12:35] up and now Allen Street social is doing like brunches and they're open on
[12:39] Sundays and things like that since like the community is picking up I've had
[12:44] multiple people tell me or even as sad as like people coming into town last
[12:49] minute for funerals and not having to drive from Colombia or Mexico or
[12:55] Mobberly and being local for the visitations and in the dinners and
[12:59] things like that a lot of people have broughten those uh things up to me
[13:04] they're like actually that's a really good idea sellia already has three they
[13:08] fill up so fast like Betty was telling me with deer season she's been booked up
[13:13] for you know a month in advance and stuff like that and weddings and
[13:17] graduations so I mean I've noticed and heard that there's like a demand for
[13:22] these things I mean I also I mean I personally know
[13:27] of from my own experience I know somebody in the community that's an
[13:32] older person and their family when they come to visit will will rent out and
[13:36] every they bring their family and their kids and they don't have enough space to
[13:40] stay with you know their mother so they rent things out to stay local and be
[13:45] able to do things around the holidays so and just on occasion so I do know those
[13:50] instances it also kind of creates the demand for these and the kind ofunity
[13:53] kind of like this where you have that um that situation probably quite frequently
[13:58] with no tells there's no place to say you received the application
[14:07] mhm we did all the advertising and signs and the yards and everything with no
[14:13] complications but all the correct time frame and I recommend that you keep a
[14:20] copy from the newspaper to put in the file on
[14:23] this so uh all the technical parts of this have been de boxed just checked
[14:32] right okay they still need to go through and actually get a business license for
[14:37] this if we prove it okay um yeah there's a short there's
[14:44] a onetime short-term rental application and then each year after that um that's
[14:51] just the business license and if they do it now they get
[14:55] to pay now and again in January
[15:06] yeah anybody else have anything I think it feels a a big need in
[15:12] town
[15:15] hotels I think it does too personally I'm I'm I'm always a fan of thebo but I
[15:20] use them so it feel um I'm somewhat concerned stayed
[15:27] one last night
[15:30] I have a need for one for or four days myself person just while stuff on the
[15:38] house yeah that's a good point too I don't if you heard what Chris was saying
[15:42] was that he himself could use it you know while he's gotten he's getting
[15:47] stuff worked on his house you could stay at a you
[15:50] know a rental here in town on a short-term basis in order to fill that
[15:54] need so my my biggest concern is R1 uh that
[16:00] single family residential now you turn it into a it's more than just a uh a
[16:07] lease where you're leasing out a house to somebody for a year or so it's short
[16:11] term you rapid turnover I have some concerns about that
[16:15] I don't really have any concerns at all in R2 and R3 but R1 people who buy in a
[16:21] residential neighborhood they buy because it's basically over occupied
[16:31] my my statement to that would be if you had an owner that occupied the house all
[16:35] the time these places AR all the time as much traffic or more traffic well I
[16:40] understand Ian so it's not going to create a whole lot more
[16:47] traffic and don't we already have one in R1 the Rollin street is R1 is R1 so we
[16:53] already have kind of a precedence there where we've already allowed it in
[16:57] R1 and is allowed as a conditional use in
[17:00] R1 yes that's decision made the standard is
[17:06] been set now I believe that the contract requires
[17:11] the maintenance on the facility to be hel to a higher standard
[17:16] than anything The Government Can require own Association probably but the city
[17:23] can't come up to the same standards of pay
[17:31] Contra is that your understanding yes there is I have the if I'm not here then
[17:39] my daughters and their husbands they do between the cleaning we have a what is
[17:45] the ozone like an ozone machine that you
[17:49] clear the air out and stuff after somebody leaves the ozone machine goes
[17:53] into each room for a certain period of time to clear the air out the and then
[17:58] they're cleaned thoroughly and I mean you could all leave here and go over
[18:03] there now and you would walk in and go oh okay because it it's clean thoroughly
[18:08] I've went through it and um made sure that everything is done in it um showers
[18:16] are reced that everything everything that's necessary is there and yes it is
[18:20] held to a little bit of a higher standard um because people will will rat
[18:26] you out if you are a a bad person as far as a a owner or
[18:33] VRBO um rep they will go on there and they will say this
[18:38] place they will let you know anything and everything about it I I can tell you
[18:44] I've had I did have one bad experience in renting the place and um we called
[18:49] the company we called the person we rented it from and they moved us that
[18:53] very next morning and found a different place for us to stay and the person that
[18:58] was the owner of that property was removed
[19:01] from being able to rent their property through them any longer so these
[19:06] companies do hold them to a pretty high standard because it's their business too
[19:10] I mean they're they're Gathering fees off of this as well and you know they
[19:14] get a bad rep then Susan what you said earlier though about with VRBO and the
[19:19] fees the fees are a little crazy but I believe that that also that also
[19:25] protects the owners of the property from people who come in you're not going to
[19:30] tear up the property with the amount of money that you're paying the rbo in
[19:35] these different fees forget the taxes but the other fees that you're paying
[19:40] you're not going to tear up their property it's not that type of a I don't
[19:43] know if you want to say clientele or people
[19:47] or yeah demographic it's it's not that type of type of um
[19:55] thing this I looked at the neighborhood there
[20:00] are I particulars but there are some houses that I don't know whether the
[20:06] rentals or owner occupied they aren't nearly as good
[20:10] they're looking at the property that's there don't look at my next door
[20:18] neighbor
[20:22] so there's no guarantees no matter how you treat property I understand H's
[20:29] concern but we the board at the time that this was adopted decid that it was
[20:36] potentially possible to have one of these in any Zone
[20:43] yeah I still I mean I mean the damage I mean to me I mean significant damage
[20:49] risk is actually more on the side of the owner I mean they're taking on that risk
[20:54] of somebody coming in and creating damage but I also kind of I mean I know
[20:59] it sounds like I'm advocating for this but I like I I feel like it's been
[21:03] successful for what we've done so my opinion is is that I don't think that
[21:08] we're the type of community that you're going to see a you know bunch
[21:12] of people that want to come here and have some wild and crazy party in the
[21:16] middle of Calia yeah like it's not like colia where you have missou and stens
[21:22] you risk that more in the Columbia area probably so but um How likely are how
[21:28] easy is it to change these rules if it
[21:32] doesn't for
[21:36] everybody think we have to have a meeting about
[21:39] it if you wanted to pass new rules you'd have to either have an ordinance to
[21:44] adopt those rules and or an ordinance to say
[21:48] that sta May develop from time to time rules that apply but You' have to have
[21:55] basically Amendment and some sort to there is there any ordinance and public
[21:59] hearing for that and then an ordinance passed by because I've read that
[22:04] Columbia has had some problems that they have Revisited their policies what
[22:07] they're going to allow so I and I suspect that we're not going to have
[22:12] some of the problems that clumpy does that's why I asked whether there have
[22:16] been any Police Department or neighborhood concerns
[22:23] reported I've heard nothing I think we'll have less trouble with this than
[22:27] just a general REM
[22:34] um my observation is that as long as you have
[22:41] isolated rentals like this or BNB airbnbs you're probably not dealing with
[22:47] the same concern as if you had a whole neighborhood nothing but
[22:56] rentals I I think there's a couple of points here first of all they don't keep
[23:01] their properties up they don't keep their high ratings it's a business they
[23:04] they won't be in business because people not right people discriminating plac I
[23:10] stayed last night I between that they were all five star and
[23:15] they all were super hose that's what I look for and so the cim and all that
[23:19] goes into effect and if we start to have any problems uh remotely like Columbia
[23:24] does we need to address those correctly a city in general period and we would
[23:30] just have to make an amendment to approach anything that uh gets out of PL
[23:35] but I I really think these things police themselves very well because of the
[23:39] clientele people that come to these places to stay plus you also have to
[23:43] have a credit card just like you have to have a hotel that's reable because if
[23:46] you tear the place up they got your credit card and you're going to fix
[23:50] everything that you tear up so I mean bottom line is I think there's a lot of
[23:53] safety precautions in place uh to protect the residential area or I
[23:58] wouldn't be afford all at all you know at all myself so I don't think that's a
[24:02] real big risk but likeu anything you have to keep an eye on it because it
[24:06] could at any time somebody could run it for for for the owner probably not not
[24:11] all of them but for the owner they have
[24:19] to I would like sorry firstr I would like to point out too one other thing
[24:25] that when you when you do go through and rent one of these you rent based off of
[24:29] capacity so it's a four-bedroom home I'm guessing you're probably at a a six
[24:35] maybe depending on the size of the rooms maybe 8 person capacity Max and any
[24:41] violation of that would be a violation of the agreement so it clearly states in
[24:45] there that there's a maximum number of allowed guests um so when you're going
[24:50] through so huh the ordinance has a limit too two for bedroom yeah so that's what
[24:56] I'm saying 6 to8 probably for this property with the four B and that's what
[24:59] it's set up for yeah so um I just wanted to point that out as a as an additional
[25:06] I think you know safety measure in not having you know risking having a 20 part
[25:13] person party show up for a four bedroomroom house in our town and as the
[25:17] owner you also have to I mean I do I brought it but my homeowners insurance
[25:23] which has been increased to cover you know to cover this type of thing um as
[25:30] well as the other part of it is that the people coming in town and staying
[25:35] locally it is going to bring some Revenue additional Revenue to the to
[25:40] Calia and you know some people come in who may never have been here before and
[25:44] there may be others who come back and go wow the town is really starting to grow
[25:48] and it's becoming you know it's really up it's starting to be an upcoming place
[25:52] to be and just a visit and it it truly is like a little Hallmark Town track
[25:57] parade with all the stuff that goes on through the it is it is it's a great
[26:02] place to have a family and be it is and and honestly we don't really have places
[26:06] for people to stay so this is with in light of having a hotel this is what we'
[26:10] got so it's my
[26:14] opinion anything else all right so I can open this to
[26:19] vote whether we're all those in favor of the sorry what i' like it I recommend
[26:27] that you have a little longer than just a y or vote okay because this becomes
[26:33] the basis if anybody has a a valid objection of the
[26:39] ordinance U so I move that the Planning and Zoning commission finds that the
[26:45] applicant has submitted a valid application and the staff has fulfilled
[26:52] all of the requirements for advertising in public notice based on Tony here and
[26:59] that based on that plus the questions and answers of tonight's public hearing
[27:06] that the commission votes to approve a conditional use permit as a short-term
[27:12] rental for that property I needed the motion anyway I did Rush that they can
[27:18] play it back are we
[27:23] abely told you it's been a while so do we have so that's your
[27:28] motion that's my motion good luck with that I didn't write it all
[27:32] down you wanted to you got can you repeat
[27:38] that she missed most so all those in favor of the
[27:44] motion as it was stated by
[27:49] Len yes I I oppose to the motion I I'll vote in favor I still have
[27:58] some concerns I do think it's something that we'll need to keep an eye on but
[28:03] I'll vote in favor okay
[28:07] so at this point in time the motion passes motion passes
[28:13] now before midnight or whenever anybody present still objects to the granting of
[28:21] this condition of use permit there's a very brief petition that can be signed
[28:28] as a formal written objection and in that
[28:33] case our motion is null and void and if the owner wants to pursue the matter
[28:41] needs to go to board of adjustment which is
[28:46] a similar but more complicated and detailed
[28:55] process it's never happened but I was say not just for this any I'm saying
[29:04] I've this while remember that ever happened to so I think there was one
[29:08] where somebody objected and they went and they kind the person objecting went
[29:13] and uh basically
[29:17] did an agreement on principles and was willing to withdraw their objection so
[29:24] that the motion would stand
[29:31] that's what happens in small times so so we have a pass motion so
[29:38] this concludes the public hearing and the item five on
[29:44] the agenda for the VB vbo property at 222 and how do we want to handle like so
[29:52] we have as may rise coming up we can um allow I allow that during that okay so
[29:57] the next item on the agenda is as May or I so you can bring forward
[30:01] your your item Lind Bor at 800 Jason Court
[30:08] yes um I would like to see this board do an ordinance or regulation I don't know
[30:16] how what it would need for when somebody builds a new house in any part of town
[30:22] that they put a sidewalk in there's a whole section in the
[30:27] Northwest part of this town north of the railroad tracks there's been I counted
[30:34] them up today five new either duplexes or houses built and not a single
[30:41] sidewalk is on any of it and about four of them were all built at the same time
[30:47] and should have had sidewalks built so I would like it to make some sort of a
[30:53] rule whatever it needs to be that anytime a house is built built sidewalks
[30:58] have to be built if it's in an area that we've never had sidewalks right across
[31:04] the street from her there's a sidewalk but in her whole side there north of the
[31:09] electric building there is not a single sidewalk with old older dwellings there
[31:16] also though no there's no well Doug Brown owns two of them but then Darren
[31:23] bought a bunch of property or somebody did and built four houses
[31:27] and then there's the two duplexes and then the two little houses that Crockers
[31:32] built sorry I'm nameing names and then somebody else owns a duplex to the south
[31:36] of and those have all been built probably in five six years maybe 10 on a
[31:42] couple of them at the most but not a single sidewalk was put in on on North
[31:50] Columbia and okay they were there so we didn't
[31:55] there may not have been but there is an adopted City policy by
[32:00] resolution govering sidewalks for new subdivisions your concern is address
[32:05] because yes they have to they have to Wi those and they need to have them in
[32:11] place by a certain time by the time they get their certificate of occum right
[32:15] correct but I mean I'm just talking you know we've got houses popping up all
[32:21] over town where people I mean I don't know if the one cost from uses and if
[32:25] they they put in a new sidewalk did they but there are others that have not and
[32:29] when we did ours I think we just Lo out the sidewalk was getting replaced at
[32:32] well you had an existing sidewalk so yeah I think I think that's the issue is
[32:37] that some of the newer homes are bued up to older homes who didn't have those
[32:42] same type of regulations so you can make somebody put in a sidewalk at new
[32:46] construction and then they're going to stop and walk across the grass where the
[32:50] older home is I think that's part of the issue that that may well be but at some
[32:56] time hopefully y those houses and I know I'm talking 20 30 years down the road
[33:01] you know that houses those older houses will be replaced but those five four
[33:07] that they put on F and Wilder and on north of that those were all put in at
[33:13] the same time and there's no reason why they weren't sidewalked price but that's
[33:19] beside the point price is included in all the other subdivisions when it comes
[33:24] to sidewalks and another one is the houses over here on brutin they built
[33:29] two brand new houses the one there was an old sidewalk there and one was not
[33:34] put back in the other they put a sidewalk on the one side but not on the
[33:39] other and in a subdivision you put in both sidewalks if you're on a corner
[33:45] irregardless that's something I recommend I mean it's just something I
[33:49] want you to look at I mean there's never going to be sidewalks put in over there
[33:54] yeah say I if I have to walk door to door knock on somebody's door and say
[33:58] Hey you have to put a sidewalk in I want you to stand next to me so that way
[34:03] there's two of us not one I'm saying in the future man I'm talking about in the
[34:13] future we need to have something place when you're building house
[34:17] putw yeah yeah I mean that's that's all I'm ask cuz our daughter lives over
[34:23] there and she doesn't have a sidewalk
[34:31] right if there's no sidewalk on that entire Street there's no reason to put
[34:35] it on one house because it will never go anywhere there's absolutely no reason
[34:41] make a house put a sidewalk one one house there's y we'll take a look at it
[34:48] I mean it's just something to look at yep all right so we'll take that up with
[34:52] Council you guys remind them I guess there are several documents that say
[34:58] it's the aspiration of the city to get all sidewalks to place we have an 8 plan
[35:05] I don't know where is at that says we have that as a goal uh it was
[35:12] included basically in U resolutions to clearing the major
[35:19] streets that we were going to start building at cing Gutter and
[35:23] sidewalk uh don't think we got very far down that before we ran into schools and
[35:29] a couple other things that need the sidewalks
[35:32] more I mean if you don't you know it won't happen right I
[35:39] have a question who pays for that does does a homeowner or the city right right
[35:45] now the homeowner has to two State Standards even if it crosses driveway
[35:52] then it's going to be even sicker um or the develop
[35:57] in a new subdivision which then still is a property owner when they buy the house
[36:03] it's in the price so ultimately it's p the house
[36:08] you're going to pay for it I mean like over there where you guys live that's
[36:11] never going to get C and gutter for so we're all long
[36:15] gone still and it might not be still and she does I check there's four parking
[36:22] places there so even if she has eight people there and however many ours so
[36:28] she's I checked that today all right then so um
[36:35] you're I your issue has been noted and I'm sure that they will fall up on it so
[36:41] is there anything else for the asme section of this anybody else have
[36:44] anything they like to bring bring something up what that we discussed
[36:47] several things with the uh subdivision regulations the last uh that were in our
[36:52] minutes from last time where are we with those we're in discussions with one of
[36:58] our on call engineers and they're assisting us with it and I'll be
[37:02] bringing it back to the planning Zing commission to look at when I car
[37:06] from it does anybody have anything
[37:11] else this brings us to item seven which is the adjournment of this meeting do we
[37:15] have a motion to adjourn I make a motion we adjourn we have a second second all
[37:20] those in favor of a journey I all anybody not in favor of a journey
[37:27] all right thank you all