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meeting for Monday, January 12th
order.
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This time we'll have the pledge of
allegiance. I'll give the invocation.
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[movement]
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of
the United States of America.
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And to the Republic for which it
stands, one nation under God,
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indivisible, with liberty and justice
for all.
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[movement]
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Lord, we thank you so much for the
opportunity to come together this
evening in the name of the community.
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We thank you for the sunshine, for
the sunshine, for the positive
attitudes and also your blessings
upon the community.
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We know we pray, Amen.
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Amen.
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[movement]
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At this time, we have our recognition
of outgoing commissioner Mr. Egner.
Yes, sir.
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On behalf of the City of Shawnee and
the City of Shawnee and the City
Commission, I just want to present to
you with this plaque and
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give you our thanks for our
appreciation for the service you give
and everything you've done.
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Thank you very much. I look forward
to working with you.
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[applause]
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Thanks, Tim.
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Yeah. Guys, it's been a pleasure to
serve with you, Todd, Brian, Corey,
Dean, came in there.
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Uh, you guys have got this thing
running really well.
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Thank you. You really do. It's good.
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Tim, congratulations.
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Thank you.
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Thanks, Tim.
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Have a good one.
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[movement]
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At this time, we have a swearing-in
ceremony for re-elected and elected
commissioners.
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We'll do it by their by the podium.
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[movement]
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Will you raise your right hand.
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Do you solemnly swear to support the
Constitution of the United States and
the Constitution of the state of
Kansas
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and faithfully discharge the duties
of City Commissioner of Shawnee,
Kansas? So help you God.
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I do.
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Okay, you can have each sign your
oath.
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[paper shuffling]
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[typing]
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[phone ringing]
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Thank you.
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[movement]
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All righty.
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Next up, we have the approval of the
agenda.
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So wish to make any additions or
subtractions to the agenda?
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Request an executive session
discussed non-elected personnel
before Commission comments.
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I move we approve the agenda.
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Does it mend it?
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Yes.
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Perfect.
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Is there a second?
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Second.
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All those in favor say aye.
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Aye.
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Any opposed?
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Moving on to the consent agenda.
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The consent agenda is used by cities
to approve non-controversial or
routine matters by a single motion
vote of the City Commission.
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Examples of such items include
approval of minutes, payment of
claims, routine renewal of leases,
routine resolutions, and certain
staff reports.
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If any commissioner wants to discuss
any commissioner wants to discuss any
item on the consent agenda, then I
will separating and considering it at
a later time on the agenda.
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Specifically on the consent agenda
are the minutes from the City
Commission meeting dated December
8th, 2025.
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Warrant registered dated December
10th, 2025.
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Warrant registered dated December
17th, 2025.
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Warrant registered dated December
23rd, 2025.
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Warrant registered dated December
30th, 2025.
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Warrant registered dated January 7th,
2026 and review various board and
committee minutes and reports.
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Do want to have any items I wish to
pull and discuss?
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Seeing none, is there a motion to
approve the consent agenda?
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I'll make a motion.
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A motion. Is there a second?
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Second.
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We have a motion in second. All those
in favor say aye.
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Aye.
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Any opposed?
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Moving on to item eight.
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Commission reorganization.
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Select mayor and vice mayor.
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City ordinance requires the governing
body to reorganize annually.
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City code, section 2.04.0.
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30 and 2.04.040 are attached for
review.
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These sections outline the role of
chairman and vice chairman.
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At this time there's no financial
consideration,
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legal consideration.
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At this time we'll select a mayor and
vice mayor.
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The floor is open for nominations.
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And in the past, I've always advised
the commission that
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a commissioner can nominate a fellow
commissioner,
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a commissioner can nominate
themselves,
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and our past practice has been not to
require a second
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before going to a vote,
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uh, if there are more than one
nomination.
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So.
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I move Jacob be the mayor.
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I second that.
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It's okay, you can still second it.
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Good. Second that.
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Accept the nomination.
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Any additional nominations?
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Seeing none, all in favor say I.
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Aye. Aye. Aye.
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Any opposed?
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This time we'll select the vice
mayor.
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Any nominations?
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I nominate Tim Farell.
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You accept?
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Yeah, I guess.
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Yeah, I will.
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I mean motion for unless somebody
else wants to do it.
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Any additional nominations?
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Nobody else wants to.
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I'll do it if you don't want to do
it.
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If you want to do it.
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Well, Kevin's fine too.
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I think it's good to have somebody
different.
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I haven't done much. I mean, when
you're gone.
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If you want to do it, Kevin, that's
great with me.
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I think you do a heck of a job.
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Except the nomination.
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I withdraw for all my nominations.
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Thank you, Mayor.
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Nomination Commissioner Berthoud.
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Any additional nominations?
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Seeing none, all in favor of Mr.
Berthoud as vice mayor, say I.
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Aye.
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Any opposed?
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Moving on to public comments.
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Anyone who requests to address the
commission,
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request you approach the lecturn,
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state your name and address,
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and comments shall initially be
limited to six minutes.
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Public comments is now open.
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Hello, I'm Amy Jensen.
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I'm the director of the Chamber of
Commerce here in Cheney.
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And I just wanted to take a second to
invite everybody to our, um,
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Chamber of Commerce annual meeting
dinner and awards banquet.
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It will be held Thursday, January
29th
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at 6:00 PM, which is Kansas Day, so
our theme is going to be
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to celebrate all things Kansas.
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And it will be located at the FCK
Impact Center,
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and it is, um, like I said, 6:00 PM,
and we will have a, uh, live auction,
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dinner, and also a silent auction
going on
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and, um, should be lots of fun,
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and I have invitations for everybody
that
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will help you.
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Yes, ma'am.
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Are there any additional public
comments?
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Seeing none, public comments is now
closed.
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See manager report, Mr. Numan.
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Thank you, Mayor.
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Uh, got a few things. First,
congratulations Jacob,
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Kevin for re-election and Tim.
Congratulations re-election.
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Forward working with you.
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So, just congratulations, guys.
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Um, so you got a few documents in
front of you.
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Um, first I want to start off with,
that I'm not going to go over,
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it's just reading material.
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Um, but this is gives a lot of depth
into the general department,
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the general fund, all that.
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If you were do it every year, I
believe this is the fifth or six
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division plan, um, we've done,
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but just goes over the goals, um, and
objectives from 2025,
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uh, goals for 2026.
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Um, but just gives you a lot of
insight of the overall departments
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and what they do year in and year
out.
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Um, a couple of things I do want to
go over in the book is page 15
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and page 16, um, real quick.
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That just gives you a little bit of
insight into the Mill Levys,
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the overall, uh, City Levy.
[9:14]
Um, as you notice, the city had the
seven and a half mil levy
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that is a pass through to the
library,
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but then also goes with the other,
um, taxation profiles
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for the library, uh, county, schools,
college.
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There's just a lot of good
information in this book.
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Um, and on 16, you will see the top
five tax payers
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and the top five largest employers.
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Um, so just like to give a little bit
of insight to the
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businesses that they make up Cheney.
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On page 32,
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probably the one of the most hot
topics that we have year in
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and year out,
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community development.
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Um, I always like to go over this one
as well.
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Um, as you will see in the overview,
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there were 31 demolitions last year.
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11 of those were houses, nine
garages.
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Um, with that being said,
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We opened up the voluntary demo last
week.
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Uh, we opened it up Thursday and had
it filled by Friday.
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So, we already had five voluntary
demos.
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So, we'll start that bid process,
we'll go through the process.
[10:10]
Um, I expect by probably February,
we'll have that back
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in front of you again to open it back
up.
[10:15]
Last year we had around 12 to 13
houses through the voluntary demo.
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Um, so this I always like to give you
guys a heads up on that one.
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The commission in the past, every
time we built five, we opened it,
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um, and then once we started to get
to the end of the year,
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we shut it down accordingly to the
budget.
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Those all houses, majority of them.
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Yeah, some are garages, some are
mobile homes.
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The five that you had on? The five we
have right now
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are three homes and two garages.
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So.
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Um, and then I always like to touch
base that we see enough
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in the last couple years has been the
weed and nuisance letters.
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As you've seen in this, we wrote 633
weed and nuisance
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letters last year,
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which is quite a bit for a department
of five people.
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So.
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Just want to point those out that,
you know, we do eight
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resolutions every two weeks.
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Uh, this time you have five in front
of you,
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and a lot of that's because of the
voluntary demo has
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already, we already have five
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and so we're just going to keep an
eye on the budget
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as we move through it.
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So that's the gist of the strategic
plan.
[11:09]
The one I also wanted to share with
you, especially with Mr.
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Harding coming on, was the sales tax.
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Uh, so you have a red book and a blue
book in front of you.
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The 2000, the sales tax for 2019,
2024,
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that's actually got the projects that
were completed with the
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original sales tax.
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And then the blue book is the new
sales tax that we currently
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have in the works.
[11:29]
Um, unfortunately, that book is
sitting idle just because we did
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use those funds for the Hvac at the
library.
[11:34]
Um, so there's roughly about three
years left of that sales tax.
[11:38]
That money as it comes in will be
going back to the electric fund
[11:41]
because the electric fund is helping
subsidize that Hvac
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because that money is coming in over
five years and we needed
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that money instantly to pay for the
for the Hvac.
[11:49]
So that fund.
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But it does have a lot, it shows all
the projects that we had
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in the works that we were going to
try to get done with the
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missile building with that sales tax.
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Um, so we still have it on the radar,
we just going to have to
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wait a few years before we can
accomplish that project.
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But.
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I think Tim, you might have mentioned
that you were want a
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couple more copies,
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so that's why I went ahead and passed
them along to you
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guys coming on.
[12:09]
So.
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Um, it's just a lot of good reading
material for you guys.
[12:13]
Um, other than that, that's all I
have now for questions.
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Questions out there for Mr. Newman?
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I don't know if you had on the
heating and air, but what's
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the status of the tax credits?
[12:24]
Are are we still?
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So last I knew, we were in like phase
three, which is they were
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looking, they were looking through
all the material,
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um Gary's been handling a lot of
sharp, he had to take a ton
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of pictures, send them into the
state,
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and then they were reviewing the
pictures based on the work that
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was being performed.
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Um, but at this time I don't have
whether we had approval or not.
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Okay, thanks.
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So.
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And one thing I didn't mention in
that strategic plan on your.
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There's three handouts.
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I'm glad you brought that up for the
HVAc, but in your there's
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three handouts in there.
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Um, you got the CIP, which is the
first page.
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So 2026, you will see those projects
that are in the works
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as far as the fiber expansion, the
water plant and the filler
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project.
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And then the big one that we still
haven't heard from, um,
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is the wastewater plant,
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so we submitted that roughly 60 days
ago, they told us
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60 to 90 days,
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we, we hopefully have some word of
what our interest rate, we
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are still waiting on that.
[13:17]
Um, approval of our interest rate
from the state.
[13:20]
So not that we're going with the
state revolving loan, which
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is that's our ad,
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we're just trying to figure out what
our interest rates so we
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can do that's RF the USDA or a
private bond issuance,
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but we will submit that to the
governing body and then you guys
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will will pick the funding options
that we have for the
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wastewater plant.
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So that's the first page.
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Uh, the second one is just the
six-year benchmark, I always
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like to do a benchmark every year.
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So, I've been your city manager for
the last six years.
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Um, when I first came on, there was a
list of projects that the
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commission wanted to tackle
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and over the six years, I feel like
city staff has done a really
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good job of getting those projects
accomplished
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and without issuing a whole lot of
debt.
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So, hats off to city staff on that.
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And then the last one is just the
equipment replacement, uh,
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program,
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this one comes from vehicle services,
Jeff Kevasik.
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Um, it's one of the things we also
when I first came on is
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we really had no plan for equipment
replacement.
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Um, so we started this equipment
replacement program, we're on
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the final year,
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um, the ones that are in yellow are
the ones that are set to
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be replaced this year.
[14:16]
Unfortunately, with the budget, the
general fund budget being
[14:18]
set up how it was, we pretty much
pulled all projects,
[14:20]
all equipment out of the overall
budget.
[14:24]
Um, so these as these are needing to
be replaced, they
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will most likely come from equipment
reserve
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and we will do that to the
commission, I will just give an
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update of of that process as it
comes, but.
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Just want to give an update on those
three things.
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And then as we get into the budget
work session, obviously
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we'll update this and and give the
commission a little more info,
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especially on the equipment
replacement.
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So,
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Tim, about five years ago, we had to
issue some debt to replace
[14:48]
some of the equipment that we had
because it was in such bad
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shape.
[14:52]
We spend a lot of money, not a lot of
money, but we spent a lot
[14:55]
of time and resources buying stuff
off of Purple Wave.
[14:57]
Um, if you ever buy anything off
Purple Wave, it's pretty much.
[15:01]
It's on its last straw. So we've had
to we've replaced about 4 or 5
pieces.
[15:04]
and then we created this equipment
replacement plan.
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And as we go through the budget
cycles, our mechanic will put a new
list
[15:10]
in front of the commission and that's
how we replace equipment.
[15:13]
It's pretty much the 5 worst pieces
of equipment.
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that he puts in front of us is what
we're replaced.
[15:18]
Um, and it strictly just depends on
what the mechanic shop.
[15:21]
because that's how we feel like we
can save the most amount of money
[15:22]
through that budgeting process.
[15:25]
So, but just want to give a quick
update on that.
[15:27]
And now we're up for questions for
me.
[15:31]
How there Mr. Weaver. It's a little
work might come in.
[15:33]
Larp point's coming home really nice.
[15:35]
Uh, not the weather. We had a rough
summer
[15:36]
because of all the rain and all that.
[15:38]
Um, but I actually did a tour. I took
Tim around.
[15:40]
Last Tuesday, we did a tour of it
[15:42]
and was very pleased with how the
project's coming along.
[15:46]
Um, January. So if you remember, we
had a mobilization of $5 million.
[15:49]
to get rid of some of our bond money.
[15:52]
Um, all of last year. Due to weather,
[15:54]
we were still operating underneath
that $5 million mobilization fee.
[15:58]
But in January this month, we will
actually make our first payment um
towards that water plant and get now
they're being caught up.
[16:04]
It is set back about three to four
months. They're expecting spring of
2027 before that project is complete.
[16:10]
Um, but they do have two of the
clarifiers have been built.
[16:13]
Um, they're obviously on that north
or south track. Sorry, they're on the
south track.
[16:18]
And the project's starting to really
come along. You actually see some
progress going on now. So.
[16:23]
I gotta say I was thoroughly
impressed with.
[16:26]
Good. Yeah, quite a project. Yeah.
[16:29]
So I did take Tim, like I said, Ryan
took Tim on tour last Tuesday.
[16:32]
We went through, I told him 2 hours.
I think we spent 3.5 hours.
[16:35]
About 4 and a half, almost 4 hours.
[16:38]
So we went through everything and
just took him pretty much around.
[16:40]
Everything that we operated out of.
So, um.
[16:44]
I was thoroughly impressed with you
and your staff.
[16:46]
Everything looks great. I mean, good.
[16:49]
Power plant, I was extremely
impressed with.
[16:51]
Yeah. It's an impressive operation.
[16:55]
Can you want to tell them too about
the solar project?
[16:57]
It's, yeah, coming along.
[16:59]
It is. Yeah, it's pretty much all the
panels are up. They're running wire
now.
[17:02]
Um, as you saw in the PowerPoint. It
was last weekly bulletin.
[17:05]
or weekly bulletin on the floor, but
had the PowerPoint in there on that.
[17:09]
So it's come along very nice. June it
should be operational. So.
[17:20]
How many megs that?
[17:22]
Uh, 6 megawatts.
[17:24]
35, something like that.
[17:25]
That was about what the price point
was.
[17:29]
And the advantage of it is, the
better advantage we entered into it
[17:32]
several years ago is,
[17:35]
uh we get the capacity off it and
capacity sales to other utilities
[17:39]
which we've been making have way
increased in value because of the
[17:44]
demand of all the data centers, etc.
[17:48]
So, when we get that capacity, we'll
be able to resell that
[17:52]
um to other utilities and a lot more
money than we thought we would do
[17:55]
three years ago.
[17:59]
Yeah, Ken came in and we did roughly
five.
[18:01]
Yeah, from $2 to now $5 and they're
thinking maybe $8 to $10.
[18:07]
That's how much it's gone up.
[18:10]
Yeah, so purchasing additional 6
megawatts on top of the solar farm,
there was good timing.
[18:22]
Additional questions are there for
Mr. Veman?
[18:31]
Moving on to item 11.
[18:38]
Conduct public hearing for
reinvestment housing incentive
district, RHID,
[18:42]
Perch U Housing LLC.
[18:44]
At our December 8th, 2025 regular
meeting, we set today as the date to
hold the required public hearing for
the RHID.
[18:51]
And the purpose of the hearing is to
allow the public to speak about the
proposed budget and tax rate.
[18:56]
At this time there's no financial or
legal consideration.
[18:59]
And this time we'll conduct the
public hearing to allow formal action
under item 12A.
[19:07]
I hereby declare the public hearing
open for comments for the record
[19:10]
on establishing a reinvestment
housing incentive district
[19:14]
within the city of and adopting a
plan for the development of housing
[19:16]
and public facilities in such a
proposed district,
[19:19]
Hidden Hills reinvestment housing
incentive district.
[19:23]
All persons wishing to speak shall
approach the lectern and give their
name and address.
[19:27]
Comments shall be limited to the
issues pertaining to the public
hearing.
[19:31]
The public hearing is being recorded.
The public hearing is now open.
[19:44]
Okay. Seeing no comments.
[19:46]
I hereby declare the public hearing
closed.
[19:57]
Moving on to new business, item 12A.
[20:01]
reinvestment housing incentive
[20:02]
district for housing LLC.
[20:04]
This comes from
[20:05]
the city manager's office.
[20:07]
the City Commission on
[20:08]
December 8th, 2025
[20:10]
approved the initial resolution
[20:12]
for revised reinvestment housing
[20:13]
and incentive district for housing
LLC.
[20:15]
The new City Commission
[20:16]
set a public hearing
[20:17]
for today.
[20:20]
analysis, the Kansas
[20:21]
Department of Commerce has
[20:22]
granted the initial approval
[20:24]
for the reinvestment housing and
incentive district.
[20:27]
The next required
[20:28]
commission action to
[20:29]
establish the district is is past.
[20:31]
the new ordinance.
[20:32]
This time there's no final
[20:33]
financial consideration.
[20:35]
Legal consideration,
[20:36]
proposed ordinance provide
[20:37]
for commission review and
[20:38]
recommendations to adopt the
ordinance.
[20:40]
Mr. Newman.
[20:42]
Yeah, it's Darren here too,
[20:43]
but it's obviously is over 18 years.
[20:47]
was the initial tax abatement.
[20:50]
Um, but we're we're just excited
[20:51]
that 32 doors this, you know,
[20:53]
so I'm excited.
[20:54]
Um, we had a pre-construction
[20:56]
meeting last week.
[20:57]
Um, they gave Darren till November
[20:58]
to have the project complete.
[21:00]
[laughter]
[21:03]
So, no, we're just we're just excited
[21:04]
that hopefully have the project
[21:05]
finalized.
[21:07]
That way Darren can start work, so.
[21:10]
I was excited the first go around.
[21:11]
I'm more excited this go around.
[21:15]
How soon does construction start?
[21:18]
Well,
[21:20]
[laughter]
[21:24]
waiting period until the
[21:25]
finalization of the RHID
[21:27]
gets done, which this kicks off
[21:28]
30 days.
[21:35]
school districts to oppose it.
[21:36]
We've come in we've gotten
[21:39]
clarification from both of
[21:41]
those entities that they're
[21:43]
not oppose at this time. So,
[21:46]
I think put it on record and
[21:49]
Yeah. We're excited
[21:50]
I feel like it's it's
[21:52]
going to happen this time. So,
[21:54]
once that happens, we need to
[21:58]
I think we can go ahead and
[21:59]
do a a
[22:01]
developmental agreement anytime
[22:03]
between now and then.
[22:05]
As soon as that's done,
[22:07]
have pieces in place
[22:09]
utilities, what we're
[22:11]
going to do and
[22:15]
Our goal is, you know,
[22:18]
been treading water, so
[22:20]
get contractors lined up to do
[22:22]
the sewer water stuff.
[22:25]
to get right now, hoping to start
[22:28]
March-ish.
[22:31]
All those things
[22:33]
we're ready as soon as that
[22:34]
that stuff is out of the way
[22:36]
to get going, so.
[22:40]
I hope to have some structures
[22:42]
out there by June.
[22:45]
Cool.
[22:47]
A lot of local contractors to go
with.
[22:49]
Yeah, we're talking to Kane,
[22:51]
we're talking to Mission,
[22:53]
we're talking to uh, Tony's.
[22:56]
So, hoping to get credit bids
[22:58]
from all three of those.
[23:01]
All three of them
[23:04]
are within 30 miles here.
[23:06]
You're local, you're local, so.
[23:09]
All those entities have people
[23:11]
living in the community of, so.
[23:16]
So excited to work with any
[23:18]
one of those entities.
[23:24]
I think it's going to be a great
project.
[23:26]
excited to get started.
[23:29]
Set here like in the starting
[23:31]
block, gen up, ready to go.
[23:34]
Let's get in this.
[23:37]
It's gonna be your one and done
[23:38]
or you got to build more after.
[23:40]
Well, yeah.
[23:41]
hope to find other communities
[23:44]
or more of this.
[23:48]
to go front to figure it out.
[23:53]
I'm excited about.
[23:57]
appreciate everything that
[23:58]
the city's done and
[24:01]
gonna be found out.
[24:03]
I did have one quick one,
[24:04]
I don't want to put you on the spot.
[24:06]
It's kind of kind of goes to this,
[24:08]
kind of doesn't, but OMR
[24:09]
obviously does.
[24:10]
So Thursday they approved a plat
[24:12]
for OMR and we discussed their
[24:14]
RHID last time on this.
[24:16]
Was that something that you would
[24:18]
still consider building out there
[24:19]
while this project is going on or
[24:21]
The only reason I asked that is
[24:22]
because probably at our next
[24:23]
meeting they're going to have
approval with a new plat.
[24:25]
Um, and I was just curious
[24:27]
kind of where you were at with
[24:28]
that RHID as we discussed
[24:29]
last time if you were
[24:32]
I think right now,
[24:33]
That's all you can hear.
[24:35]
you can handle it. So.
[24:37]
Okay.
[24:38]
the way I understood how that
[24:39]
RHID was written, that we were
[24:41]
going to have to kind of
[24:43]
it's just an agreement that the
[24:45]
city will put on RHID there,
[24:46]
so you have to start it over
[24:48]
from scratch.
[24:50]
So once this project's done,
[24:52]
I think we can kind of
[24:53]
look at that and see what that
[24:54]
looks like again.
[24:57]
I got some initial bids on
[24:58]
some some of the stuff.
[25:01]
out there, but uh
[27:01]
it's great.
[27:02]
pleased with what that was going to
look for. I said,
[27:07]
I think it can be done.
[28:08]
I was just curious as we went because
we went because we have no more lots
out of St. Martin.
[29:11]
So we sold Option B was our last
district. And you sold those lots to
just as we
[30:01]
and um get some additional funding
for them.
[30:06]
On the other page there is a
breakdown of
[30:11]
where riders are going,
[30:13]
where riders are coming from,
[30:15]
and um,
[30:17]
there's a public transportation
utilization metrics,
[30:20]
still amazing service.
[30:22]
Uh, the big number is,
[30:25]
um, number of riders.
[30:26]
We had 2100 in,
[30:30]
uh, 23, 24.
[30:32]
We dropped a little in 24, 25.
[30:35]
and we were projected for about that
same amount
[30:38]
for 25, 26.
[30:40]
So our ridership decreased a little
bit,
[30:43]
uh, between 24 and 25,
[30:46]
but it looks like we're holding
steady.
[30:49]
Uh, if we can get through to June
30th.
[30:55]
So I would invite you to ask any
questions and
[31:01]
you guys can jump in if you've got
any questions for them.
[31:06]
This is a service anybody within the
[31:08]
community can take advantage of,
correct?
[31:09]
It's not needs based or income based,
it's all-
[31:11]
It's not, it's not needs based, it's
not income based.
[31:13]
It's general public transportation
[31:15]
available to anybody who calls
[31:17]
and schedules a ride.
[31:19]
We schedule seven days in advance.
[31:21]
We are wheelchair accessible.
[31:24]
So, uh, we drive a bus in Chanute.
[31:26]
It has a, uh, electronic lift that,
uh,
[31:29]
we we wheelchair up, drop them in and
take them.
[31:35]
We do a lot of, uh, backup for
Diversicare.
[31:38]
If Diversicare has, they have a,
[31:40]
they have a van or a bus or some
sort.
[31:43]
And if they have to take a patient
out of town
[31:45]
and a current patient needs to, uh,
[31:48]
do dialysis or go to the hospital or
something.
[31:50]
They they call us and and we them
well
[31:53]
while their main van is is in service
somewhere else.
[31:59]
And kind of looking at your frequent
stops here.
[32:02]
I mean, these are necessary services
I think to individuals.
[32:06]
I mean, eating groceries, getting
medical care.
[32:08]
Those types of things.
[32:10]
I mean, I think everyone is a social
creature.
[32:12]
I mean, like I said, I mean,
residential as well too, so
[32:14]
going to a friend or family member's
house,
[32:17]
get that socialization, that that
human interaction.
[32:20]
I think, I mean, it's a
[32:22]
it's a service that
[32:24]
I think it's underutilized, but
[32:27]
It is, it is.
[32:29]
And, uh, we're we've kind of been on
the fence
[32:33]
because we didn't know whether the
service was going to continue
[32:35]
or or disk. So we didn't want to we
didn't want to push it,
[32:38]
we didn't want to advertise it, we
didn't want to advertise it, we
didn't want to get it out there if
we're going
[32:41]
to have to to run out of money and
cut services.
[32:44]
But yeah, for, uh, Diversicare, we're
we're we're used with them and Guest
Home States.
[32:49]
Uh, out of town, we go out there a
lot and and bring those folks into
town.
[32:53]
So that's uh, that's one of the only
ways they have, some of them have to
get around.
[32:58]
So, yeah.
[32:59]
So there's a guest told me there too,
which is fun.
[33:04]
What time do you guys look for rides?
[33:06]
What's up? Do you it's a five day?
[33:08]
Yeah, 7:30 to 3:00.
[33:10]
7:30 to 3:00. Uh, money through
pride.
[33:12]
Yeah. And you can schedule like I
said, seven days in advance.
[33:16]
You call our dispatcher and drawer.
[33:18]
And we've got the you know, the
software, everything worked out.
[33:22]
And we can tell you what times are
available and and how long it takes
[33:25]
to get to where you're going. And
[33:32]
And have you ever
[33:33]
have you ever talked to like Walmart,
[33:37]
Southeast Kansas Mental Health,
Ashley Clinic to make donations to
you?
[33:41]
We haven't talked to Ashley Clinic.
[33:43]
We have talked to Walmart.
[33:44]
How about Southeast Kansas Mental
Health?
[33:46]
You guys talked to them?
[33:51]
Oh, that's right. Yeah.
[33:55]
We've talked to them, but
[33:58]
we didn't get a good indication that
they were
[34:01]
willing to, uh, contribute to the
program.
[34:04]
Really? Huh, interesting.
[34:06]
That is interesting.
[34:08]
It's real interesting.
[34:09]
We didn't have detailed discussions,
[34:11]
but it wasn't it wasn't a
[34:14]
they didn't say what can we do to
help?
[34:16]
We just said, what what do we, how do
we utilize your service?
[34:22]
That's very interesting to me.
[34:24]
Mhm. Thank you for that information.
[34:32]
As far as Walmart goes,
[34:34]
I think there's a kind of a corporate
[34:36]
you know, it used to be kind of local
[34:38]
one-on-one, you'd you'd get, you
know,
[34:40]
get friendly with the manager and
that kind of stuff.
[34:41]
It's a little more, you know,
[34:44]
they send it to Arkansas and go
through the committee and that kind
of stuff to get
[34:48]
the so a lot of local Walmart
[34:52]
so references.
[34:55]
The very first thing and this is kind
of working backwards here
[34:58]
in my mind and I apologize.
[35:00]
But I think the very first thing I
would encourage you to do
[35:04]
is around May, Junish, we'll start
our our budget
[35:07]
cycle for 2027. And our,
[35:10]
you guys are almost six months behind
[35:12]
what our what our budget cycle would
be.
[35:13]
I would encourage you to get with the
CA manager's office
[35:16]
to try to get on there as an outside
agency,
[35:18]
so during our budget cycle, we can
discuss that and have that put on
there.
[35:21]
We have him on our list for when he
does letters to outside agencies,
[35:23]
they will receive one. And that's
going on that point. That was my only
concern
[35:28]
seeing this is that we're on
different calendar years for
budgeting purposes.
[35:32]
Um, so I guess my only question is,
[35:35]
if the commission was to fund this in
its entirety,
[35:39]
the 46,646.
[35:41]
You need 21,373 to get us to June
30th, 2026.
[35:45]
You need another 25,273 to July 1st,
26
[35:49]
to June 30th, 2027.
[35:51]
Unfortunately, both of those numbers
would fall in our 26 calendar year,
[35:55]
I'm assuming.
[35:57]
Or could we split those out and so we
can pay you one
[36:00]
in 26 and one in 27?
[36:02]
Because the issue we were going to
have is we won't be budgeting for
[36:06]
2027 until May and June,
[36:08]
and it won't be finalized until
August.
[36:10]
So the $46,000 hits a little bit
different than a...
[36:13]
We can we can work with that
[36:15]
because if we get, basically, in just
round numbers.
[36:19]
If we get six months from the county
to operate June through December,
[36:25]
and we get six months from the city
to operate January through July.
[36:29]
That that's not what we're doing
here.
[36:31]
Yeah, I was thinking, I was looking
at two different ones,
[36:33]
so maybe if the commission depended
on what they were thinking
[36:35]
could issue the 21,373 for 26 in its
entirety.
[36:39]
And then do the 25,273 in January of
2027.
[36:44]
And then that would also let you have
those discussions for
[36:47]
the budget session because we haven't
budget 2027 yet.
[36:51]
But that is totally up to you guys.
[36:54]
But we have, we do have the money if
we wanted to fund it.
[36:57]
Yeah, I mean, the 21,000 is I feel
comfortable with.
[37:02]
Um, the 46,000, why I asked that
question, we did the whole
[37:05]
46 this year. We'd probably be a
little tougher.
[37:08]
But if we could split it and do the
21,000, do the 25,000 in 27,
[37:12]
we'd be in two different calendar
years on the city's standpoint.
[37:16]
As long as we had a financial pledge
going by, we can make something.
[37:20]
We can do, we can do a six-month
[37:23]
half from the county for six months,
half from the city basically.
[37:26]
And yeah, I think that's for sure.
[37:35]
And this is not any money from the
county.
[37:38]
Oops. Say that again?
[37:40]
Is this what no money from the
county?
[37:41]
No, that's what their 14,000 for 26.
[37:45]
14,000 for 27.
[37:48]
Yeah, it looks like they have
budgeted,
[37:50]
I I don't, I can't answer that. Maybe
you can.
[37:52]
What's that? He was asked to, yeah,
this, your second sheet,
[37:55]
you got 14,727 for 26.
[37:58]
We're in the budget for 2000.
[38:01]
Is that pledge for 27 accurate as
well?
[38:03]
Well, yes. Okay, that's okay, I see
how that.
[38:10]
So the 11 routes
[38:14]
because it's those 11 routes in
Southeast Kansas. Right.
[38:21]
I guess this is a simple way of
dividing out and figuring
[38:23]
out the local contribution because
I'm sure there's other
[38:26]
routes that have more participation
than what ours does because
[38:31]
you guys will may operate than what
your show county does.
[38:37]
Well, that that's not really how we
we figure it.
[38:39]
I mean, we had we we have the the
40,000 amount for each
[38:42]
route that we ran and, um,
[38:46]
I think it's basically
[38:50]
So like Crawford County is a route.
[38:53]
Well, Crawford County had four
routes. Actually, they have five.
[38:56]
But they had, yeah, they we had two
pack buses in the city of Pittsburgh.
[39:00]
We had, uh, two vans in the city of
Pittsburgh.
[39:03]
And we had one in Crawford County.
[39:06]
So 160,000 is what their contribution
is or supposed to be.
[39:11]
If a countywide entity, it was 200.
[39:14]
200. Yeah.
[39:16]
What have they done? Just curious.
[39:18]
We're still in negotiations with them
on bits and pieces.
[39:22]
We're looking at adjustments to the
service
[39:24]
because we can do the three-day, we
can do a four-day.
[39:27]
So we're tailoring it to what the
community needs
[39:29]
and what people love with partnering
with us.
[39:34]
So is this what you're encountering
across all of your routes,
[39:38]
or are people hesitant to help fund?
[39:45]
The the, uh, those those Crawford
County has been with us for,
[39:49]
uh, a long time. And, uh,
[39:53]
the match took a significant jump
after COVID.
[39:57]
It went from
[40:00]
from uh what 24,000 to 40,000.
[40:04]
And that's kind of that made a
difference in what
[40:08]
you know, the the the funding
remained flat.
[40:12]
In other words, the funding didn't
didn't didn't increase with our cost
increase.
[40:17]
Therefore we we we fell short.
[40:21]
That gives me a better understanding
of the routes on their set up and
[40:25]
Yeah, initially I thought, well,
you're servicing the 12 counties of
Southeast Kansas.
[40:31]
You got 11 routes, so one of the
counties is not getting service.
[40:34]
Yeah, the division was going, but
this helps explain it good.
[40:38]
The city of Pittsburg is always has
always had uh the pack bus.
[40:43]
It's a city bus that basically once
runs from one end of Pittsburg to the
other,
[40:47]
takes about a little over an hour to
make the loop.
[40:50]
And they are they're very happy with
that service. They're more than
willing to fund that service.
[40:56]
But some of the on-demand routes um
have have kind of uh taken a hit
[41:01]
because we can't raise $40,000 for
each service.
[41:07]
So they've kind of cut the service
that they want to utilize the most.
[41:12]
And historically our counties were
our biggest supporters with Ccap
[41:17]
providing, and if it continued to
elevate, Ccap is able to cover
[41:20]
the changes that something we can't
do anymore.
[41:24]
And our timeline and timetables not
line up well
[41:27]
with a single county or city we
talked to.
[41:31]
Because we're always six months off
one direction and the other.
[41:34]
So we re-some of the new ones um to
the cities
[41:36]
and the counties we haven't talked to
about supporting
[41:42]
this project, and now we're trying to
get everybody
[41:45]
during the time everybody's working
on budgets.
[41:49]
pushing up and.
[41:52]
You mentioned during COVID, your
expenses almost doubled.
[41:56]
Have you seen since COVID, have you
seen the great opportunities?
[42:00]
Were there better funding options
during COVID versus now,
[42:03]
or is there more funding options
outside of city and counties now?
[42:07]
I guess is there more free money?
[42:09]
Is there more grants opportunities?
[42:11]
Now or during COVID? Has it changed
at all?
[42:14]
Yeah, not not for not for
transportation.
[42:16]
Less. Less funding opportunities.
[42:19]
Okay.
[42:23]
Do you have a lobbyist in Topeka?
[42:26]
We have a Kansas Public
Transportation Association,
[42:30]
which I'm a board member, and we are
going to be in Topeka
[42:33]
on February 18th for okay at the Dan
County.
[42:39]
But we yes, we do have um a lobbyist
[42:45]
is is what he goes by, but yeah, he's
he's he's the president of his
organization
[42:49]
and definitely is is welcome to this.
[42:52]
So this is predominantly District 2
then, which you guys operate in.
[42:56]
Correct. Majority of it would be in
that area, yes.
[43:04]
It'd be nice to see some more state
funding in this way.
[43:08]
Yeah.
[43:09]
Well, their calculation from this cuz
this is federal after all.
[43:14]
So they're very specific about
calculations of this.
[43:19]
And there's a on the community cost
investment page,
[43:23]
there is a breakdown of our total
program budget,
[43:27]
what is federal and what is state.
[43:30]
And uh, $35,000 is program revenue.
[43:34]
That's that basically comes from
donations from riders.
[43:37]
We don't charge for our services.
[43:39]
Some other uh transportation
providers do charge for their
services.
[43:44]
Most of the people that uh we try and
serve
[43:47]
uh may not have a dollar to give.
[43:49]
You know, we'd rather they spend
their money on resources to help
them.
[43:54]
And um so any donations we get
[43:57]
goes right back to the program
[43:59]
uh to the state, we we basically need
it on the back end.
[44:17]
Is this column the
[44:20]
What do you call it?
[44:23]
The writer stops, are those ranked?
[44:26]
Yes, this is ranked by.
[44:27]
by number of stops on them.
[44:29]
Yeah, Walmart's pretty much every
every every uh city and county that
we serve.
[44:34]
I think Walmart's top of every list.
[44:37]
And are there members listed here
that do not,
[44:40]
I'm going to make sure I understand
what you said.
[44:42]
that do not contribute to the
program?
[44:47]
So on your rider stops,
[44:48]
those are all of the most frequent
stops for your rider.
[44:52]
I understand that. No one on that
list
[44:54]
outside of the city and the county
have supported financially
[44:57]
the transportation.
[45:01]
What does that indicate?
[45:06]
Okay.
[45:08]
All right.
[45:09]
If if
[45:10]
[clears throat]
[45:11]
Well,
[45:17]
If they get it for free,
[45:20]
Yeah.
[45:22]
Yes. Yeah.
[45:24]
and I'm not likely to intervene to to
[45:28]
get any money.
[45:29]
Some of the other
[45:30]
documented information on some of the
[45:34]
writers stops and disturbing.
[45:39]
So.
[45:41]
Not what you guys are doing.
[45:42]
I think we ought to do it.
[45:45]
figure out a way to help you.
[45:47]
You need a motion then?
[45:49]
Yeah.
[45:50]
I have a few more questions, I truly
apologize.
[45:52]
Well, you have those after we make
the motion.
[45:54]
You can't make a motion. Yeah.
[45:58]
I move that we do it.
[46:01]
Make a motion that is.
[46:02]
To.
[46:03]
do 21,000.
[46:04]
21,000 this year and
[46:06]
and then plan for it in the budget
next year for whatever it is.
[46:10]
And they're saying we we're good for
the 21370.
[46:13]
Yeah, I'm I'm good with both of them
just as long as we can separate it.
[46:16]
I think that's the biggest thing that
I want to do.
[46:18]
is if we can issue the one check for
21,373 for 26
[46:22]
and then we could issue the 25,273 in
27.
[46:26]
And then yeah.
[46:28]
When we do the outside agencies,
we'll have you come and give an
update.
[46:31]
But we'll just already have that
25,000 into that actual budget for
outside agencies.
[46:38]
Now would there be a possibility that
that that 25,000 would be less if you
guys came up with
[46:44]
you know, that we have someone else
step up or the county makes you all
set.
[46:47]
The county makes make some. Makes a
payment.
[46:51]
that that'll be a promise to you.
[46:53]
That's one of the things we've been
on
[46:55]
trying to get one at the same time.
[46:58]
and it's really difficult to get to
20 places in a short period of time
to everything.
[47:03]
We we are feeling the same when you
are, it's a service to the community.
[47:06]
We're bringing passengers to your
business.
[47:09]
Um, we can track all that.
[47:10]
You should
[47:11]
least
[47:12]
Customers get to know.
[47:14]
and I think it's important that we
have the full bodies such as
yourselves.
[47:18]
we should be able to tell you, yes,
you've got some of your businesses in
town.
[47:23]
that it's not fair if they don't at
least the minimum considerate.
[47:27]
So, um, and we feel it needs to be
done.
[47:29]
before we
[47:30]
and that's what Scott was saying
earlier.
[47:32]
Um, I was here, you know, a little
over 20 years ago
[47:36]
and I remember we just wrote on the
premise that it was just a service to
the community
[47:40]
and we didn't go after businesses to
support that effort,
[47:44]
but it means more than it did before
back that.
[47:46]
Now it it's just a matter of survival
to the local communities
[47:49]
to have that done as well as it helps
to have that done as well as it helps
to take off the pressure off the
local governments.
[47:54]
So that's that's our premise for you.
[47:56]
So we will spend time over the next
year going to these places and at
least having conversations with them.
[48:02]
Of course we can't force them to do
anything.
[48:04]
But it's worth the effort. It
definitely is worth the effort.
[48:09]
So, do you guys get money from
Medicare, Medicaid?
[48:13]
No.
[48:14]
We have, we are in the process though
of going after medical, after medical
reimbursement.
[48:19]
So, um, as a matter of fact, that's
been quite a process to go through.
[48:22]
But uh, yeah, I'm not.
[48:24]
And frankly.
[48:25]
frankly, no.
[48:26]
We are actively investigating that
now.
[48:30]
we're just in the middle of the op
petition now.
[48:32]
And it's uh
[48:33]
I just wondered, I really wondered is
[48:35]
if those Medicare and Medicaid
supplement some of the people that
enjoy your benefits.
[48:43]
Yes.
[48:43]
Yeah.
[48:44]
There.
[48:46]
And if if if they actually have been
receiving funds for transportation, I
mean, I don't know.
[48:52]
So I just wondered how it worked.
[48:54]
Well, one of our partners in this
community health center out in out of
Pittsburgh.
[48:59]
And they do all that and they 30% of
their funding for their entire
operation comes from insurance and
and from medical reimbursement.
[49:06]
And we know that talking with them in
weeks, matter of fact, we just met
with them again talking about general
public transportation, that's one of
the the things that makes a big
difference, it would definitely take
the pressure off all of our providers
and all of our local governments.
[49:19]
So, so what you're saying, CHC then
funds that?
[49:22]
CHC CHC gives you reversion for it?
[49:26]
No, they do not give us money.
[49:27]
So there are they.
[49:28]
They're they're like Southeast Kansas
mental health.
[49:30]
They there are multiple providers
that do transportation.
[49:34]
Okay.
[49:35]
But we are primarily do medical.
[49:37]
Okay, yeah, I understand that.
[49:38]
Okay.
[49:39]
And there is, there is a difference
between non-reimbursable medical
transportation and general public
transportation.
[49:50]
General public transportation is
basically any ride for any reason to
any destination.
[49:57]
Medical transportation is if you're
covered.
[50:00]
for for insurance or
[50:02]
medicare Medicaid
[50:03]
then we that the that it gives you
the right
[50:05]
we get reimbursed for that.
[50:08]
We've we've never gone down that
road.
[50:12]
like like they said, we're in the
process of filling out the
application now
[50:17]
and um because it's it's you know,
something we're going to need to
survive really.
[50:23]
but that also squeezes out less spots
for
[50:29]
the common man who just trying to go
to go to Walmart. He's not he's not
sick, he just doesn't have a car.
[50:38]
Motion still stands? I'll second it.
[50:40]
And then just for clarification on
the motion, was that just for this
year for that that 21,000?
[50:45]
Yep, it's for this year and to look
at the budget process to make sure
they're here and look at it to talk
about it in the budgeting
[50:51]
to go next year.
[50:54]
Perfect. Okay.
[50:56]
Is that? Yeah. Yep. Yep.
[50:58]
Thank you. Then second thing.
[51:01]
And then a couple of additional
questions on my side as well too.
[51:03]
So I think that 5,000 donation or not
donation or not donation but the
purchase of the advertising that was
the first contribution that the issue
[51:08]
has done to the program. Correct.
[51:11]
Correct. Yeah, we appreciate that
very much.
[51:13]
Okay. I guess we haven't done this in
the past.
[51:17]
Well, between between the county
support and the the uh pledge
[51:22]
being where it was C-CAP was able to
cover the difference.
[51:27]
When that when that 40% 30% match
went to $40,000
[51:31]
and the county remained flat.
[51:35]
That's when the the gap became
unsustainable for C-CAP to
[51:38]
look that to level different rounds.
[51:45]
Additional questions, comments,
concerns are there?
[51:47]
I guess one more question I'll make
the motion, but uh
[51:51]
So does your routing include like
fair and
[51:54]
Absolutely, yeah. have you talked
about ship by town locations?
[51:57]
I have not met with Fair.
[51:59]
we've been to Erie. We have talked to
Erie.
[52:02]
Okay. Okay. That's all.
[52:04]
I just wanted to make sure you're
talking to it.
[52:08]
What additional questions, comments,
concerns are there?
[52:11]
Motion still stands?
[52:12]
I can still stand.
[52:15]
All those in favor, say aye.
[52:16]
Aye. Aye. Aye.
[52:18]
Any opposed? Thank you all.
[52:20]
Thank you very much, we appreciate.
[52:22]
Yeah. Good luck. You got it. Good
luck, guys. Good luck.
[52:26]
Thank you. Thank you.
[52:27]
information. Appreciate it.
[52:33]
Check it real quick. One question
though, will you submit me an
invoice?
[52:37]
I like it. Okay. Okay. Thank you.
[52:45]
Moving on to item 12C, appoint
commissioners to interface with
specified city boards.
[52:51]
Commissioners may wish to discuss
assigning and or reassigning
commissioners to interface with the
following city the following local
city boards.
[53:01]
I can read all those if you want me
to. We can leave them
[53:10]
It looks like for sure we'll have to
reassign the planning commission, the
parks advisory board,
[53:20]
The land bank didn't exist. Or it was
dissolved.
[53:26]
the CRDA.
[53:30]
I think they're working on something.
[53:33]
It's those big hills and climb. Okay.
[53:40]
I'm happy with what I'm on. I like
tourism.
[53:48]
I've been serving on the Main Street
board anyway, so I can stay there.
[53:57]
to take Tim Tim records please.
[54:02]
CRDA I can do I can take Tim records
place on all of them.
[54:07]
unless somebody else wants to jump in
there.
[54:11]
Works for me.
[54:16]
Do we have any other boards they wish
to vacate or trade?
[54:23]
I'm assuming these boards will reach
out to me or do I need to
[54:27]
I'll make sure they reach out to you.
[54:30]
So, I'll find out when they meet, um
exactly cuz some of them change based
on quorum. I'll find out.
[54:37]
Okay. Yeah, and I believe Land Bank
at the time is dissolved as far as
meeting wise.
[54:42]
Um and then as Tim said CRDA, I
believe is still, I know they're
[54:46]
actively hiring, trying to hire a
director, so I think they are trying
to still meet.
[54:52]
Um but Parks advisory and planning
Commission, we can get you those
dates for sure.
[54:56]
Thank you. Yep.
[54:58]
You're good.
[55:00]
one is needed. Yeah.
[55:02]
get your hands on the one that I
like.
[55:05]
David, I thought the land that land
bank's done.
[55:08]
It's all right. It's all. Okay.
[55:10]
[laughter]
[55:12]
And parts advisor, they do.
[55:13]
It has assets.
[55:15]
Yeah. So they
[55:16]
they do sell off.
[55:17]
Okay. Okay.
[55:19]
Park says me like March through
October.
[55:22]
They meet during spring and summer
and then they kind of take a hiatus
[55:35]
I think everyone's good with that.
We'll take a motion.
[55:41]
I make a move.
[55:42]
A motion that we approve the
committee's.
[55:44]
Sure. There a second?
[55:46]
Second.
[55:47]
All those in favor say I.
[55:49]
I.
[55:50]
Any opposed?
[55:55]
Does anyone here to discuss 1315
South Plumber?
[56:00]
or 722 South Grant?
[56:04]
or 1611 South Highland?
[56:08]
or 706 North Highland?
[56:12]
For 1005 South Plumber.
[56:16]
I think before we discuss talk about
those, I think Mr. Newman has one
update.
[56:19]
I just had one update just so you're
aware.
[56:21]
But the 12 E 722 South Grant.
[56:24]
That was the one, I believe her name
was the one, I believe her name was
Rose came, she was renting the
property.
[56:30]
She wasn't living in it, but she was
trying to rent it, she dumped her own
money into it, trying to fix up the
property.
[56:34]
Um, the homeowner told them that they
couldn't sell it to her. They ended
up selling it to a family member
instead.
[56:39]
Um, and this is now back in front of
the commission again.
[56:42]
So I just wanted to remind you that
request that we went through a few
months ago.
[56:48]
And I kind of felt sorry for the the
lady because she was dumping money
into it. They wouldn't sell it to
her.
[56:53]
And then they did end up selling it
after she had invested.
[56:59]
on her words of $2,000 into the
brother.
[57:01]
So, it's unfortunate.
[57:07]
Is everyone okay reading these all
together?
[57:11]
Have a resolution declaring property
at
[57:14]
1315 South Plumber in violation of
[57:16]
Sheetless code 8.20.010 L E G
[57:20]
10.30.030.
[57:24]
resolution declaring property at
[57:26]
722 South Grant in violation of code
[57:28]
8.20.010 L.
[57:32]
The resolution declaring property at
[57:34]
1611 South Highland in violation of
[57:36]
code 8.20.010 L G
[57:39]
and 10.30.030.
[57:43]
resolution declaring property at
[57:46]
706 North Highland in violation of
[57:48]
code 8.20.010 L and G.
[57:52]
And the resolution declaring property
at
[57:55]
1005 South Plumber in violation of
[57:57]
code 8.20.010 and G.
[58:01]
We have any discussion on any of
those items?
[58:05]
Do we get any more uh communication
on the first one?
[58:11]
On the first one, sorry. Uh, we did
not, just the emails.
[58:14]
So we've had quite a few emails going
back and forth with the property
owner.
[58:19]
Unfortunately nothing has come to
date of them actually cleaning the
property up.
[58:23]
Unfortunately, this one has been
pretty regular over the last few
years,
[58:28]
but it's went to the commission
[58:30]
a few different times, and
unfortunately it hasn't been cleaned
up today.
[58:33]
This is the one by uh, kind of by me.
[58:35]
Yeah, it's on it's right next to the
apartment complex. South Plumber.
[58:41]
They do have a city dumpster out
there.
[58:43]
It was full of stuff as I drove by
today.
[58:45]
Yeah.
[58:47]
Uh, you're I don't I think we're
talking about a different one.
[58:49]
Oh, okay.
[58:51]
It's there's only two properties to
the south. There's one on the corner,
but it's the one in between.
[58:55]
But it's right next to the apartment
complex, right next to the drainage
ditch.
[58:58]
Oh, right next to the
[58:59]
You said conversation we had on the
second page.
[59:02]
Yeah. Okay.
[59:03]
Yeah, I drove by there today and I
know what you're talking about. It's
a different house.
[59:07]
Different house.
[59:11]
tarps that are blowing down.
[59:15]
and junk blowing into the street.
[59:17]
Additional questions, comments,
concerns?
[59:20]
Seeing those, a motion to approve the
resolutions as presented.
[59:24]
I make the motion.
[59:25]
Motion.
[59:26]
There a second?
[59:27]
Second.
[59:28]
All those in favor say I.
[59:29]
I.
[59:30]
Any opposed?
[59:32]
This is not a notice to this time.
[59:34]
For which prepared child will make a
motion?
[59:36]
I'll say.
[59:38]
Hey.
[59:39]
7:45 to reconvene.
[59:42]
7:45.
[59:46]
Okay.
[59:47]
I move the city commission recess
[59:50]
in executive session to discuss
matters
[59:52]
of non-elected personnel pursuing to
[59:55]
KSA 75-4319 B1.
[1:15:20]
All right, the time is now 7:45. I'd
like to call the meeting back to
order.
[1:15:26]
You make a motion?
[1:15:29]
I actually bring the meeting back to
order.
[1:15:33]
There we go.
[1:15:34]
There's second.
[1:15:35]
All those in favor say I. I. I.
[1:15:37]
Any oppose?
[1:15:39]
No action take, so commission
comments.
[1:15:42]
Mr. Fairchild.
[1:15:43]
Uh, I want to thank Tim Agner for
serving and I want to thank Tim
Harding for stepping up.
[1:15:52]
You know, I think it's a a challenge
[1:15:55]
to get people to serve, especially in
something capacity like this.
[1:16:02]
So, I'm looking forward to next year
and getting stuff done and better
communication.
[1:16:10]
You know, I I'm convinced that the
solution of most problems are
[1:16:16]
through productive conversations,
even when you disagree.
[1:16:21]
And so I'm willing to talk to anybody
about almost anything.
[1:16:27]
There's a few boundaries, you know,
what goes on inside my house.
[1:16:32]
But that's probably about it.
[1:16:34]
And looking forward to next year.
[1:16:37]
And thank you Todd and our whole
staff. I'm proud of our staff.
[1:16:42]
I really mean that.
[1:16:44]
I think they do a heck of a job in
sometimes uncomfortable conditions.
[1:16:51]
And so thank you.
[1:16:52]
And I pray for our staff and our
governing body every night.
[1:16:58]
So he hears me on both things.
[1:17:02]
[laughter]
[1:17:03]
That's it. Thank you.
[1:17:05]
Mr. Taylor.
[1:17:07]
Oh, I echo Tim's comments.
[1:17:08]
Welcome. One commissioner Tim and I
enjoyed being with Mr. Agner too.
[1:17:14]
Uh, the only thing I have, uh, 1502
West 9th, the house, my house will
[1:17:19]
have a fiber hooked up tomorrow.
[1:17:23]
So it's been a long time coming, but
it is finally going to be there.
[1:17:26]
So, uh,
[1:17:28]
I still got to get it through the
house and I don't think it's on yet.
[1:17:31]
But I appreciate it.
[1:17:32]
And it looks like that's going good
out there.
[1:17:34]
Going very well.
[1:17:35]
Haven't heard any, haven't heard any
complaints from anybody out there
about that.
[1:17:39]
No, there we have 30, 35 drops left,
but still on track to be done by end
[1:17:43]
of this month and all hookups
hopefully done by end of February.
[1:17:46]
And the project that Darren's doing
is going to be a blessing to the city
[1:17:50]
too and I'm just glad it's moving
forward finally.
[1:17:52]
That's all I have.
[1:17:54]
Thank you.
[1:17:55]
Mr. Harding.
[1:17:56]
I just, uh, want to thank you guys
for welcoming me.
[1:17:58]
I really look forward to working with
you guys for uh, the next
[1:18:02]
four years. I think we can get a lot
of stuff done.
[1:18:04]
And my phone's always open, my
email's open, give me a call anytime.
[1:18:10]
Thank you very much for having.
[1:18:12]
[inaudible]
[1:18:13]
Mr. Birdy.
[1:18:14]
I'd like to echo what the other
gentlemen have to say.
[1:18:17]
And Tim, welcome aboard.
[1:18:18]
Thank you.
[1:18:19]
I really appreciate the community
giving me another two years
[1:18:21]
to serve on the commission.
[1:18:23]
And I pledge to do what I think is
best for the community as a whole.
[1:18:28]
Looking forward to the next year and
two years and what's in store.
[1:18:33]
And I pray that uh, our community be
blessed.
[1:18:37]
We'll have a lot of positive things
happening in 26.
[1:18:42]
Thank everybody. Appreciate the
staff.
[1:18:44]
Mr. Drake, you're part of that staff.
I know a lot of times you don't get
mentioned.
[1:18:47]
Yeah, I'm okay being there.
[1:18:48]
[laughter]
[1:18:49]
And I'd like to get it to you, I'm
sure. It's a good thing.
[1:18:52]
Let me stay low.
[1:18:54]
[laughter]
[1:18:55]
Thank you.
[1:18:57]
And likewise, I'd like to thank Mr.
Agner and welcome Mr. Harding.
[1:19:01]
I think community has a support and I
think community has a support and I
think there's another another nice
line they have to inquire and have a
voice.
[1:19:08]
Thank you as well too and glad to
have you join.
[1:19:11]
And kind of like Mr., Mr. Newman
brought this up earlier,
[1:19:13]
but I was going to bring it up as
well too.
[1:19:15]
Thank you to Mr. Ryan Bulmer for uh,
[1:19:17]
leading such a great Planning
Commission the other evening.
[1:19:20]
I think a lot of a lot of great
discussion regarding the
[1:19:22]
the plotting out in the in the Osa
Martin.
[1:19:24]
I I think there's going to be a lot
of concerns that we that we face
[1:19:27]
that were very vocal during that.
[1:19:29]
I mean, the the root of the the
discussion was approving
[1:19:32]
or disapproving the plotting that's
out there at the
[1:19:35]
at the Osa Martin.
[1:19:37]
Kind of with with turn ins off 14th
to get a few more items or
[1:19:40]
or plots open back up for our for our
citizens.
[1:19:44]
I I think vocal concerns of drainage
or traffic issues or
[1:19:47]
those types of things.
[1:19:49]
Absolutely. I think those will be
necessary conversations in the
future.
[1:19:52]
But right now focusing just on
getting the plotting completed,
[1:19:55]
giving an option available for us to
use in the future, should we need it.
[1:20:00]
I don't think with the the
improvements we're doing now,
[1:20:03]
it's going to be a a top priority at
least on on my end.
[1:20:05]
both in terms of of lots we have
available
[1:20:08]
and also infrastructure costs and all
that as well too.
[1:20:10]
but it's nice to have that on our on
our playbooks.
[1:20:13]
Okay.
[1:20:14]
I thank everyone for all the
conversation that we're involved with
that
[1:20:16]
and get moved on.
[1:20:19]
So with that, I'll entertain a motion
to adjourn.
[1:20:21]
We re-adjourn. I'll second.
[1:20:22]
All those in favor say I.
[1:20:23]
[multiple voices] Aye.
[1:20:24]
Opposed?
[1:20:26]
Thank you all.
[1:20:28]
Thanks.