[0:07] Commission meeting starts now.

[0:08] >> Comm. Tiseo: Good morning,

[0:08] ladies and gentlemen. Welcome

[0:09] to the Charlotte County Board

[0:10] of County commissioners,

[0:12] regular and land use meeting

[0:13] for Tuesday, JULY 28th 2026.

[0:15] Let the record show. All

[0:16] commissioners are present. We

[0:18] also have the clerk court MR.

[0:19] Roger Eaton joining us on the

[0:23] Dias today. If you wish please

[0:23] rise for the indication given

[0:26] by Reverend Larry, of our

[0:27] Saverin Savior Lutheran Church

[0:33] followed by the pledge.

[0:37] >> What did last? Land with

[0:41] many things. But we also are a

[0:45] chaotic people. Thank you for

[0:46] bringing together people such

[0:51] as those before me who debate

[0:51] and think and work and make it

[0:52] safe advantageous for our

[0:55] lives. Where's they continue

[0:56] to bless the board and its

[0:57] work? For those who support

[1:01] them. For all those here today

[1:01] who are interested and

[1:02] concerned about what goes on

[1:05] here in our county. Our state,

[1:09] our country, and our world.

[1:10] We're in the middle of

[1:10] hurricane season. So far

[1:12] nothing has happened and we

[1:13] ask that you continue that

[1:14] blessing for us. You keep

[1:17] those were safe. Those were

[1:21] hurricane path. Help us to

[1:24] help those who need it. And

[1:25] help us to accept assistance.

[1:28] When we did ourselves. But as

[1:31] you blast these people. All

[1:33] those here at all, those in

[1:34] his county across the world to

[1:37] call upon you. Let them all

[1:40] feel your love and you're

[1:43] compassion and your closeness.

[1:43] Help us. Remember that we are

[1:48] never alone. And nothing, not

[1:49] dungeons, not powers on

[1:50] angels. A principality is

[1:52] nothing can separate us long

[1:54] gone and crisis whole to that

[1:55] here in the power of Christ.

[2:04] We stand.

[2:06] >> pledge allegiance to the

[2:07] United States of America and

[2:11] to public for it stands.

[2:12] Nation under indivisible, with

[2:16] liberty and justice for all.

[2:19] >> you're ever in your order.

[2:20] MR. Flores, you just to the

[2:25] agenda. Thank you, MR. Chair

[2:26] commissioners of head and read

[2:31] through the change memo. First

[2:31] we have edition number one.

[2:33] And that was item as head of

[2:34] the public here setting the

[2:34] public hearing regarding

[2:40] county right away. Change

[2:40] number 1, 2 s 2 added

[2:41] attachment to the metro

[2:43] forecasting item. Change

[2:48] number 2 to Essex added

[2:48] attachment and also updated

[2:49] the language to that item

[2:52] related to the animal Welfare

[2:56] League. And then. Change

[2:56] number 3 to 7. We tax

[3:01] resolution for that item. Same

[3:02] for change number 40 vb to

[3:05] attach the resolution and

[3:06] change. Number 5 was 2 d 2

[3:10] updated the language regarding

[3:13] the location for host holding

[3:14] the upcoming budget meetings

[3:15] SEPTEMBER at the event center

[3:16] and then adjusting the dates

[3:21] as well too. Change number 6,

[3:22] Hugh, to added the attachment.

[3:23] That's the Peace River Water

[3:24] Authority, the upcoming agenda

[3:27] for discussion. And then

[3:30] change number 7 is to items h

[3:30] one. And that is attached but

[3:32] also for the upcoming wca and

[3:36] agenda. Thank you, MR.

[3:37] CHAIRMAN changes so that when

[3:38] my second change is, is there

[3:42] any further discussion? Is

[3:42] there any opposition to the

[3:43] motion that passes unanimously

[3:45] changing, MR. Move

[3:46] Proclamation. So motion

[3:46] seconded proclamations. Is

[3:47] there any further discussion?

[3:51] There any opposition to the

[3:52] motion that passes unanimously

[3:52] and commission? And already

[3:54] you have the honor, sir, that

[3:55] will be followed by employee

[3:57] recognition.

[4:04] Thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN, good

[4:05] morning, everyone. Good

[4:09] morning, Morning.

[4:10] >> Comm. Doherty: 2

[4:11] proclamations this morning,

[4:11] the first of the 75th

[4:12] anniversary of the p#

[4:12] #

[4:12] Gorda

[4:16] Boat Club. On AUGUST 31st.

[4:17] 1951 the p#

[4:17] #

[4:18] Gorda Boak Love

[4:21] was officially organized and

[4:21] now celebrates 75 years of

[4:22] voting history for the

[4:25] community. In JULY of 1951.

[4:28] Chamber PRESIDENT John Rose

[4:29] actively pursued and promoted

[4:32] water oriented tourism in our

[4:35] predominantly fish. In Carroll

[4:35] County, in the p#

[4:35] #

[4:36] Gorda

[4:39] Boat Club held the first

[4:39] locally sanctioned American

[4:40] Power Boat Association Regatta

[4:46] in 1952, that included 9,000

[4:47] spectators probably close to

[4:47] entire population of the

[4:50] county that for that. The

[4:51] p#

[4:51] #

[4:51] Gorda Boat Club

[4:54] Foundation provides charitable

[4:55] contributions to Gulf Shores,

[4:57] sailing School Community

[4:57] Resource Network in Crossroads

[5:01] Academy. The Charlotte,

[5:02] Charlotte County wishes to

[5:03] recognize the former than

[5:06] lasting history of voting in

[5:06] our community created by the

[5:07] p#

[5:07] #

[5:07] Gorda Boat Club in

[5:10] expresses profound gratitude

[5:12] for 75 years of service that

[5:13] is enrich the lives of our

[5:14] residents and continually

[5:17] strengthens the foundation of

[5:18] our community now, therefore,

[5:19] be it proclaimed that AUGUST

[5:21] 31st. 2026 shall be designated

[5:23] and observed in Charlotte

[5:24] County as the 75th anniversary

[5:25] of p#

[5:25] #

[5:28] Gorda. Both club and

[5:30] accepting Commodore sue in

[5:47] Fambro. And Carol Bird.

[5:50] >> good.

[6:12] >> Comm. Doherty: ok, the

[6:14] second proclamation this

[6:14] morning, the Florida water

[6:18] Professionals Month. The

[6:18] Florida water and pollution

[6:22] control operators Association

[6:22] is a nonprofit trade

[6:25] organization that promotes

[6:25] sustainability of Florida's

[6:26] water utility industry.

[6:28] Through workforce development

[6:29] to protect the health of

[6:30] Florida citizens improve and

[6:33] to preserve the state's water

[6:35] resources. This organization

[6:36] offers water, distribution,

[6:37] water and wastewater treatment

[6:38] plant operator training

[6:40] courses required for that

[6:44] state of Florida's operator

[6:44] licenses, voluntary

[6:45] certification programs and

[6:48] continuing education programs

[6:49] for operator license Renewal

[6:50] and this organization and

[6:53] recognizing the importance of

[6:54] the Florida statutes and

[6:55] administrative code that

[6:57] regulate the water industry

[6:58] acts as a liaison between the

[7:00] Florida Department of

[7:02] Environmental Protection and

[7:04] Industry personnel. Water

[7:06] professionals are often

[7:07] emergency responders during

[7:08] storms and other catastrophic

[7:11] events working to ensure safe

[7:12] drinking water and safe

[7:15] disposal of wastewater for our

[7:16] communities. The Florida water

[7:17] pollution control Operators

[7:18] Association recognizes all

[7:20] those who have played a

[7:22] significant part in operating

[7:24] and maintaining drinking

[7:24] water, wastewater and storm

[7:27] water systems in Florida by

[7:29] celebrating Florida Water

[7:30] professionals Month applauds

[7:31] their constant efforts to

[7:33] protect our health and

[7:34] environment. Now, therefore,

[7:35] be it proclaimed that the

[7:37] month of AUGUST 2026. Shelby

[7:40] designated observed in

[7:41] Charlotte County as Florida

[7:43] Water Professionals Month and

[7:43] all citizens are encouraged to

[7:47] join us in thanking all water

[7:48] and waste water professionals

[7:49] for their hard work and

[7:50] dedication to preserving

[7:51] Florida's water resources.

[7:55] Excepting. There's bunch of

[7:58] ccu Jeremy Frost can stacker

[8:01] Kenny Hall. Ross Lynch, Tony

[8:04] Smith. Smith Bill Felder and

[8:19] Mike Clauser.

[8:36] All right.

[8:37] Commissioners, we have a full

[8:41] room which is always good to

[8:42] see.

[8:42] >> As far as because we I know

[8:43] we've got a lot of recognition

[8:44] Tee up the next 3 items and

[8:45] then get out of the way. So

[8:47] first, we're going to

[8:49] recognize all of our teammates

[8:50] said hit their miles of

[8:51] milestones of years of service

[8:54] in JUNE 2026. And then we

[8:56] recognize or investor program

[8:59] participants for the spring

[9:00] 2026 class and then also

[9:01] finish up with employee of the

[9:04] month for JUNE of 2026. So I

[9:06] think Abby from People ops,

[9:06] Melissa, from Pe the

[9:20] honors. So thank you.

[9:23] >> Today. We're proud to

[9:24] recognize and celebrate the

[9:25] dedicated employees who have

[9:25] reached important years of

[9:29] service milestones. Their

[9:31] commitment, professionalism

[9:32] and contributions have helped

[9:34] strengthen our organization

[9:35] and improve the services we

[9:36] provide to our community.

[9:40] Thank you for your hard work

[9:40] loyalty and the positive

[9:43] impact you make every day.

[9:44] Please join me in

[9:45] congratulating and honoring

[9:46] these outstanding employees

[9:49] for the years of service. To

[9:52] start with 5 years. Alex?

[10:02] Howard utilities. Carl Walker

[10:11] junior public safety. Colby,

[10:18] Ms oni, public safety. Shaun

[10:26] Hunt facilities, management.

[10:34] Joshua, Hough Public Safety.

[10:34] Michelle Fitzgerald, people

[10:42] operations. Tara Blacks and

[10:50] Human Services. Frank, pale of

[10:59] public safety. And with 20

[11:00] years, Jamie Scare a community

[11:08] services. And those not

[11:10] attending but reach their 5

[11:14] years are greedy Peterson from

[11:14] utilities. Stacey in McDonald

[11:17] from Budget and Administrative

[11:20] Services. Thomas Tucker,

[11:22] public safety, David Williams

[11:26] public works. Paige Community

[11:27] development with 10 years.

[11:30] Jacob Gibbs from Public works

[11:33] with 15 years. James Wood from

[11:34] utilities and with 35 years,

[11:34] sue McKean from utilities.

[11:48] Thank you.

[11:59] I suddenly the people

[11:59] operations.

[12:00] >> Today we're recognizing our

[12:02] 22nd employee ambassador

[12:03] program. Graduates, the

[12:04] employee ambassador program

[12:06] was started in 2011 because of

[12:06] employers sponsors, Truck,

[12:10] Strategic Area of Focus Survey

[12:10] feedback received from

[12:11] employees indicated their

[12:12] commitment to quality work and

[12:13] to being a good team player.

[12:15] This program was developed to

[12:18] improve communications across

[12:19] departments increase employee

[12:21] knowledge of the organization,

[12:24] Foster team spirit and enhance

[12:25] customer service. Ambassadors

[12:26] are better prepared to answer

[12:26] questions from Citizens,

[12:29] colleagues and neighbors.

[12:30] They're well informed of the

[12:31] county's programs and services

[12:33] and can respond to inquiries.

[12:34] They have a reinforced sense

[12:35] of team spirit and a

[12:36] commitment to providing

[12:37] quality services to all

[12:40] customers and colleagues with

[12:41] today's cost. Over 500

[12:42] employees have completed the

[12:43] program and have gained a

[12:45] better understanding of the

[12:46] county's department and

[12:47] overall organization which

[12:48] benefits customers, the

[12:51] organization and the public.

[12:52] Congratulations to the 20nd

[12:54] class of the employee

[12:54] Ambassador program. Brianna,

[13:01] Beaty from public safety. Lisa

[13:08] Blount from fiscal. Buchanan

[13:15] Ministration. Caitlin Quasi

[13:22] community Services.

[13:28] >> Trevor Cole facilities.

[13:28] Jessica Aaron Hart Public

[13:36] Works. Sarah, what it Human

[13:42] Services. Katie Jackson,

[13:48] public works. Jose. Laura

[13:55] Flores, is it. Thomas Mathias,

[14:02] Community Services. Ricardo,

[14:10] Canada, Emergency Management.

[14:17] John per community services.

[14:17] Brianna. Pfizer, Joseph

[14:22] Utilities. Jordan, right,

[14:27] economic development.

[14:33] Robinson, fiscal. Robinson

[14:39] Community Services. Grace

[14:44] Night or Public Works. I'm

[14:59] Alissa Walker Administration.

[15:41] >> Very good morning

[15:44] commissioners. Good morning,

[15:45] Kevin Magel senior it division

[15:50] manager and I'm here to one of

[15:51] our employees Donovan night as

[15:52] the employee of the month for

[15:56] JUNE of 2026. Generally are it

[15:57] employees tend to shun the

[15:58] limelight. They kind of like

[16:02] to do their things behind the

[16:03] scene. But sometimes folks put

[16:04] forth that effort that you

[16:08] just can't let them let them

[16:08] hide. Right. And this is one

[16:09] of those instances. Take great

[16:12] pleasure reading this for

[16:13] Donovan Donovan night has

[16:15] demonstrated Charlotte County

[16:16] is core values throughout the

[16:18] implementation of a complex

[16:21] computer aided dispatch system

[16:21] transition impacting public

[16:25] safety. And Charlotte County

[16:26] Sheriff's Office from the

[16:27] beginning of the project, he

[16:27] embraced the opportunity to

[16:28] become the primary support

[16:30] liaison between agencies

[16:33] quickly learning the system,

[16:34] understanding fire, ems

[16:36] operations and building strong

[16:36] relationships with frontline

[16:40] personnel in leadership.

[16:40] Donovan consistently

[16:41] exemplifies customer service

[16:42] in partnership by actively

[16:45] listening to fire ems staff,

[16:49] gathering feedback and

[16:50] operational requirements and

[16:51] ensuring their concerns and

[16:52] recommendations were

[16:52] communicated to the sheriff's

[16:55] office which manages the

[16:55] application he serves as a

[16:58] primary advocate for public

[16:58] safety. Bridging that gap

[17:00] between agencies to ensure

[17:01] technology solutions meet

[17:04] operational needs. Donovan's

[17:05] dedication to this project is

[17:06] going far beyond the

[17:09] expectations of his role. He's

[17:09] invested significant time

[17:10] outside normal business hours,

[17:13] including nights and weekends

[17:14] to provide support during

[17:16] critical phases of the

[17:18] implementation rather than

[17:19] asking first responders to

[17:20] work around his schedule. He

[17:23] has met them on theirs, often

[17:23] traveling to apparatus,

[17:24] locations throughout the

[17:27] county to troubleshoot issues,

[17:27] the ploy updates and ensure

[17:30] critical systems remain

[17:31] operational. His willingness

[17:32] to immerse himself in public

[17:35] safety operations. Learn

[17:37] unfamiliar technologies and

[17:38] advocate for his customers has

[17:39] been instrumental in

[17:40] maintaining momentum

[17:43] throughout the implementation.

[17:44] Donovan demonstrates a strong

[17:45] commitment to public service

[17:46] by consistently putting the

[17:48] needs of its customers. First,

[17:49] his technical expertise,

[17:52] responsiveness and unwavering

[17:53] commitment to supporting

[17:54] public safety have a direct

[17:56] impact on the county's ability

[17:58] to provide critical emergency

[18:00] services by collaborating

[18:02] across agencies addressing

[18:03] issues in the field and

[18:06] remaining engaged throughout

[18:06] the project. He has made a

[18:07] meaningful contribution to

[18:22] this implementation.

[18:32] >> And

[19:13] >> Comm. Tiseo: next, we have

[19:14] the Florida Economic

[19:14] Development Council,

[19:15] Innovation and Marketing

[19:19] Award.

[19:19] >> Good Morning. Commissioners

[19:21] k Tracy Pfister economic

[19:22] development director today. I

[19:27] am proud to share that the

[19:28] Charlotte County Economic

[19:28] Development Office has

[19:32] received a statewide award

[19:32] from the Florida Economic

[19:35] Development Council for our

[19:36] Permanent Change of Station

[19:40] Workforce Attraction, campaign

[19:41] part of a broader careers on

[19:44] the coast initiative. This

[19:45] campaign was designed to

[19:48] attract skilled workers,

[19:49] military families and

[19:50] transitioning service members

[19:52] to Charlotte County by

[19:54] connecting meaningful career

[19:55] opportunities with exceptional

[20:00] quality of life. Our community

[20:01] offers. We know that veterans

[20:03] and former service members

[20:04] bring leadership discipline,

[20:07] teamwork and dedication. 10

[20:09] employees value highly I'm

[20:13] sorry. Employers value highly

[20:15] and who wouldn't? Who wouldn't

[20:17] want to hire someone who has

[20:17] proudly worn a uniform of our

[20:22] country. And who wouldn't want

[20:23] to live in in play in a

[20:27] purple. Her community that

[20:28] honors in admirers are

[20:30] veterans and military

[20:33] families. Charlotte County

[20:34] proudly recognizes the

[20:36] sacrifices made by those who

[20:39] have served and we remain

[20:42] committed to creating a

[20:43] welcoming community where we

[20:44] can all thrive and continue to

[20:48] to live and work. Through

[20:49] targeted digital advertising.

[20:53] G offense scene around

[20:54] military installations,

[20:55] relocating relocation,

[20:58] messaging and workforce

[21:01] focused storytelling. The

[21:03] campaign generated more than a

[21:04] million targeted impressions

[21:08] nationwide. And more than 6

[21:10] 1000 visit visits to workforce

[21:11] attraction and relocation

[21:13] resources that we've provided.

[21:16] A major focus of this campaign

[21:18] is reaching military connected

[21:21] or dances and position in

[21:21] Charlotte County as a place

[21:23] where service members and

[21:26] their families can

[21:27] successfully transition into

[21:28] civilian careers, raise their

[21:32] families and build long term.

[21:34] Futures. This award,

[21:35] especially is meaningful

[21:38] because it recognizes economic

[21:39] development marketing that

[21:41] directly supports workforce

[21:42] growth, a long-term community

[21:45] competitiveness. Workforce

[21:46] availability remains one of

[21:50] the top factors that concern

[21:52] companies in our community to

[21:53] provide quality goods and

[21:55] services to our residents.

[21:58] Initiatives like careers of

[21:58] the coast continue to

[22:00] strengthen Charlotte County's

[22:01] reputation as a workforce

[22:03] ready and veteran friendly

[22:05] community. Additionally, I

[22:06] would like to recognize or

[22:07] talented marketing manager

[22:09] Maria Vessel Sorella who is

[22:13] not here today, but for her

[22:15] hard work, creativity and

[22:17] dedication in leading this

[22:18] campaign, her efforts to help

[22:19] position Charlotte County

[22:21] among our peers across the

[22:23] state of Florida and earned

[22:26] this distinguished statewide

[22:27] recognition. We are grateful

[22:28] for her and the rest of the

[22:32] economic development team. For

[22:34] their commitment to promoting

[22:35] our community and telling the

[22:36] story of why Charlotte County

[22:39] is special. So special to live

[22:40] and work. I'd also like to

[22:44] thank the board for your

[22:45] continued support for economic

[22:46] development and workforce

[22:49] initiatives along with our

[22:51] community partners, schools,

[22:53] employers and county staff who

[22:55] helped make this campaign

[22:57] possible. We are honored and

[22:59] blessed to receive this

[23:00] statewide recognition and

[23:00] proud to continue promoting

[23:02] Charlotte County as a place

[23:05] where careers opportunities,

[23:06] patriotism and quality of life

[23:12] come together. Thank you. Do

[23:13] you want to take a picture?

[23:21] Should be. We want to Ward,

[23:24] you serve.

[24:08] Okay. Next. We have excellence

[24:10] in Business award and

[24:13] commissioners today. I'd like

[24:16] to introduce Christie sisler.

[24:16] She is our business

[24:17] recruitment manager and she's

[24:22] going to be doing this next

[24:25] For the record Christie's

[24:27] sessler economic development

[24:32] morning Commissioners, ladies

[24:32] and gentleman.

[24:33] >> On behalf of the Charlotte

[24:34] County Economic Development

[24:34] Office. It is my honor to

[24:37] present the excellence in

[24:37] Business Award. This

[24:38] recognition is reserved for

[24:39] businesses that demonstrate

[24:41] leadership, strengthen our

[24:42] local economy and meaningful

[24:43] commitment to the community.

[24:45] They serve. Today we are proud

[24:49] to recognize Buffalo graphics.

[24:50] Founded in 1988 Buffalo

[24:51] graphics has been a part of

[24:52] Charlotte County's business

[24:55] community for more than 35

[24:56] years. What began as a

[24:56] family-owned company has grown

[24:59] into a second generation local

[25:00] business now led by Jordan, a

[25:01] quote, who serves as the owner

[25:05] and PRESIDENT. Under Jordan's

[25:06] leadership. Buffalo graphics

[25:07] has continued to grow,

[25:08] modernize and serve as a

[25:10] trusted, creative and

[25:11] production partner for

[25:14] businesses, nonprofits, public

[25:14] sector organizations, health

[25:17] care providers, financial

[25:17] institutions and community

[25:18] partners throughout Charlotte

[25:22] County in southwest Florida.

[25:24] Buffalo graphics is more than

[25:25] a pretty company. It is a full

[25:26] service operation offering

[25:29] printing graphic design,

[25:30] mailing signs and wraps and

[25:30] greater ease screen printing

[25:32] dye sublimation promotional

[25:35] products and branded online

[25:36] storefronts. That range of

[25:38] services allows local

[25:39] organizations to keep more of

[25:40] their marketing branding and

[25:41] communications work right here

[25:44] in Charlotte County. The

[25:45] company has also continue to

[25:49] invest in its future. From

[25:50] 2023 2025 Buffalo Graphics

[25:51] reported revenue growth of

[25:55] approximately 26.5% with 2025.

[25:56] Marking the strongest year in

[25:59] the company's history. During

[26:00] that same time, the company

[26:00] continue to reinvest in

[26:04] equipment, facility

[26:05] improvements, software,

[26:06] workflow systems and modern

[26:06] tools that help improve

[26:07] communication and customer

[26:11] service. But what really sets

[26:12] Buffalo graphics apart is the

[26:13] way the company pairs business

[26:13] success with community

[26:17] responsibility. Over the past

[26:19] 3 years, Buffalo Graphics has

[26:22] contributed more than $47,000

[26:22] in combine committee

[26:24] investment through direct

[26:27] donations, donated print

[26:28] services and just discounted

[26:28] services for local nonprofit

[26:32] organizations. In 2025 alone,

[26:34] the company provided more than

[26:35] $22,000 in combined giving.

[26:37] Including donated and

[26:39] discounted Prince Services to

[26:43] 28 local nonprofits. Those

[26:44] organizations include the

[26:45] Charlotte County Community

[26:45] Foundation. The Animal Welfare

[26:49] League. Archway Institute for

[26:50] Mental Health Kiwanis

[26:51] Foundation of Charlotte County

[26:55] and many others. Buffalo

[26:56] graphics has also supported

[26:57] major local events, including

[26:59] the Art Institute, Golf and

[27:00] Tennis fundraiser the Gulf

[27:01] Coast Partnership Art Show in

[27:04] Kiwanis Foundation Golf

[27:04] tournaments through support,

[27:05] Buffalo graphics helps local

[27:07] nonprofits promote events,

[27:09] race funds and share their

[27:10] missions and reach the people

[27:14] who need them. Most. Jordan's

[27:14] commitment to the community

[27:15] also extends beyond the

[27:19] business itself. He serves as

[27:19] the PRESIDENT Of the Charlotte

[27:22] County Jazz Society helping

[27:23] preserve and promote live jazz

[27:25] music in our community. While

[27:27] supporting music, scholarships

[27:28] for students across the last 2

[27:33] seasons concert proceeds

[27:34] helped fined $25,000 in

[27:36] scholarships for 9 local high

[27:36] school students pursuing

[27:39] advanced music education.

[27:40] Buffalo graphics also invest

[27:44] in people. The company has

[27:45] built a strong team culture,

[27:45] including long-serving

[27:47] employees and returning team

[27:49] members who've come back into

[27:49] key roles in sales and

[27:53] operations. The company is

[27:53] also an active partner in

[27:54] Charlotte, Technical Colleges.

[27:58] Design program. For multiple

[27:59] years. Both Buffalo Graphics

[27:59] has hosted students for

[28:01] production floor tours once or

[28:05] twice each school year. Giving

[28:05] them a firsthand look at

[28:08] creative careers in action.

[28:09] The company has also hired

[28:09] program graduates into

[28:11] full-time creative roles,

[28:14] including its current art

[28:14] director, helping build

[28:15] Charlotte County's local

[28:18] design talent pipeline. This

[28:19] is the kind of business

[28:20] excellence we are proud to

[28:24] recognize in Charlotte County.

[28:25] Buffalo graphics has grown

[28:26] responsibly invested in its

[28:28] team and supported local

[28:30] students helps nonprofits, 6

[28:31] seed and continues to

[28:32] modernize while remaining

[28:33] deeply connected to the

[28:35] community. It serves. For its

[28:37] leadership business growth.

[28:38] Innovation community

[28:39] investment and lasting

[28:41] commitment to Charlotte

[28:43] County. The Charlotte County

[28:44] Economic Development Office is

[28:45] proud to present the

[28:45] excellence in Business Award

[28:49] to Buffalo graphics. At this

[28:50] time, I'd like invite Jordan a

[28:50] call to come forward and

[28:54] accept the award.

[28:55] Congratulations to Jordan and

[28:56] the entire Buffalo graphics

[29:06] team on

[29:06] >> And after photo, you'd like

[29:11] to say a few words.

[29:13] >> And MR. Chair is going

[29:17] before Jordan comes I recently

[29:18] got to meet him and he is not

[29:20] going to be participating in

[29:23] comedy for cause this year.

[29:24] Got another recruit. You get

[29:25] to see over at the to support.

[29:27] It's gonna be great.

[29:46] >> Thank you. I'm very

[29:48] grateful for the economic

[29:49] development for this

[29:49] recognition. And I'll be

[29:51] honest. I don't love being up

[29:51] here because that's that's the

[29:52] word doesn't really belong to

[29:57] me. It belongs to my team and

[29:58] my family started this

[30:01] business and grow this

[30:02] business. And I'm very

[30:03] thankful for all the

[30:04] opportunities we've had this

[30:13] county. Thank Thank you, sir.

[30:14] >> Comm. Tiseo: Well, if

[30:15] you're a little nervous coming

[30:15] up to the mic, wait till

[30:16] comedy for cause, you'll have

[30:17] you have hundreds of people

[30:18] were going to cure that

[30:22] heckling. Hear case. All

[30:23] right, gentlemen, we're gonna

[30:24] move on to public input,

[30:25] agenda items, only anybody

[30:26] wishing to address the board

[30:26] during this portion of the

[30:29] meeting must fill out a card

[30:30] state. Their name for the

[30:31] record state, which agenda

[30:32] item or items will be

[30:33] addressed. Remarkable, limited

[30:36] to 3 minutes and Shelby

[30:37] address to the commission as a

[30:39] body and not individual

[30:40] members. I have my cards here.

[30:42] If you haven't filled out a

[30:42] card there to my right over

[30:44] there at the table. When

[30:49] Matthews. Regarding the tdc

[30:52] appointment.

[30:56] >> Good morning, CHAIRMAN To

[30:57] commissioners, it's a pleasure

[30:58] to be here this morning and I

[30:59] thank you for the opportunity

[31:00] to introduce myself to you,

[31:02] although you all know me. I

[31:03] have applied for the tdc

[31:06] appointment and I with like to

[31:09] just share a little bit about

[31:10] my background. I bring 3

[31:11] decades of experience in the

[31:15] hospitality and tour and

[31:15] travel business. And I was a

[31:16] small business owner in

[31:16] upstate New York with my

[31:18] husband. When we lived there,

[31:19] I believe that all of my

[31:21] credentials could greatly

[31:22] benefit the tdc. And I would

[31:23] really like to ask for your

[31:26] vote. Thank you. Thank you.

[31:30] Next they have Sean Wilson.

[31:31] >> Comm. Tiseo: On item

[31:31] regular agenda. S 3, the

[31:38] Award.

[31:38] >> Good morning. Members of

[31:39] the county commission and

[31:40] staff and citizens of

[31:42] Charlotte County. My name is

[31:42] Shawn Wilson. The PRESIDENT Of

[31:46] Blue Sky Communities.

[31:47] >> Comm. Tiseo: With offices

[31:49] at one 80 Fountain Parkway

[31:50] North in St. Petersburg. I am

[31:53] here today to ask for your

[31:54] support for the Blue Deep

[31:55] Creek face to affordable

[31:56] housing development, which is

[32:00] coming up, regular agenda item

[32:01] s 3. I want to thank the this

[32:03] commission and the county for

[32:04] working with Blue Sky in a

[32:07] spirit of partnership and

[32:08] cooperation forward 9 years.

[32:09] We first proposed are

[32:10] jacaranda place development

[32:14] all the way back in 2017. And

[32:15] I'm proud to say that that we

[32:16] did get that built

[32:16] successfully with help from

[32:20] the county and the state we

[32:24] also were able to successfully

[32:25] get funding for a blue Deep

[32:28] Creek phase one on Luther Road

[32:29] through the same process that

[32:30] we're requesting today. The

[32:34] funding and then we we came

[32:36] through and and and we won the

[32:36] funding at the state with that

[32:39] with that commitment from you

[32:40] all, I think we've been good

[32:41] partners. We've always done

[32:43] what we said. We're going to

[32:46] do. We try to keep drama to a

[32:47] minimum. And most importantly,

[32:48] we've have been providing

[32:49] housing for some of the

[32:51] hardest working people in

[32:53] Charlotte County, including a

[32:54] lot of folks with special

[32:55] needs over there at the

[32:57] Jacaranda Place. Property.

[33:00] Blue skies made a lot of

[33:02] commitments to this

[33:03] development over the past 12

[33:05] months. And not only do we own

[33:06] the land already a blue Deep

[33:09] Creek phase. 2. So there's no

[33:10] contract with the seller.

[33:11] There's no crazy extensions.

[33:14] We own the land. But we also

[33:15] came through your regular

[33:17] zoning process. We went from a

[33:21] 10 units per acre zoning to a

[33:24] 15 units per acre zoning. And

[33:24] you fact to approve this

[33:25] development in a manner of

[33:27] speaking when you approved the

[33:28] zoning back in MARCH and then

[33:31] finally and perhaps most

[33:32] importantly, we took a cue

[33:33] from the state of Florida who

[33:37] said that they want to see

[33:38] these affordable housing

[33:39] developments be more permit

[33:39] ready before they apply for

[33:43] funding. We're doing that. The

[33:44] architecture and engineering

[33:44] is done. We're about halfway

[33:46] through the permitting. So

[33:47] when we win this funding, we

[33:49] will be ready to go again. No

[33:53] drama, no bumping up against

[33:54] closing deadlines will be will

[33:55] be complete permitting in

[33:57] DECEMBER, which is right

[33:58] around the time that the state

[34:01] is going to make its final

[34:02] awards. So you can count on us

[34:03] to get this thing in the

[34:05] ground quickly.

[34:10] >> And I a

[34:10] >> all the hard work. I think

[34:11] that we've done over the past

[34:12] years in the past 12 months

[34:13] was really recognize in many

[34:15] ways. Also our commitment to

[34:16] conform to the consolidated

[34:18] plan I think was recognized by

[34:20] the Home Review Committee in

[34:22] their initial ranking. We

[34:23] actually were the

[34:24] highest-scoring applicant. We

[34:25] scored 86. The other

[34:28] applicants scored. 82 and

[34:28] hopefully that result will

[34:29] carry the day today as well.

[34:31] Thank you very much.

[34:32] Commissioners. Thank you, sir.

[34:34] Thank you for your comments,

[34:45] Samuel. Her pinning s 6 awl.

[34:58] >> Good morning commissioners

[34:59] good morning. My name is

[34:59] Samuel Chirping. And I'm here

[35:02] to bring some raw common sense

[35:02] and black letter law to the

[35:03] agenda regarding animal

[35:06] Welfare League contract. I

[35:07] wrote a speech, but I do in

[35:10] the just like you guys know,

[35:12] the Florida of Florida single

[35:15] Audit act requires that we

[35:15] demand an audit of every

[35:20] single 5, 0, 1, 3, c that

[35:21] choose to contract with

[35:24] outside of using our tax

[35:26] dollars. And so because of

[35:27] that, the Florida single audit

[35:29] act demand that we have a line

[35:32] by line item on that audit and

[35:33] so that we can see exactly

[35:35] what's going on. Furthermore,

[35:39] in your own contract from

[35:40] 2013, it also says that you

[35:43] have the ability to demand all

[35:45] of these things that the

[35:48] Florida single Audit act also

[35:49] requires. So 2 different

[35:50] levels, you're saying that you

[35:53] have the right to the law and

[35:54] to the state of Florida in

[35:58] order to require audit. That

[35:59] audit is not only a breakdown

[36:00] of the money of our tax

[36:02] dollars, the people's money.

[36:05] It also is about the animals.

[36:09] In Charlotte County. It says

[36:12] that were only responsible for

[36:13] strays. Those are homeless

[36:15] animals and but cases for 10

[36:17] days yet. They originally awl

[36:21] else for 1.3 million dollars.

[36:24] a jump from $384,000 and no

[36:24] one's going Where is the

[36:30] money?

[36:33] >> Can anybody do some math

[36:33] here? And as how much 1.3

[36:33] million dollars, how many

[36:34] animals that could take care

[36:41] of? So I just adopted animal

[36:43] last night because my beloved

[36:46] animal just passed away and it

[36:47] was $400. I made sure that it

[36:48] didn't have to go to a

[36:49] shelter. It was horribly

[36:50] abused and it got to come to

[36:53] my home last night. So this

[36:58] isn't about the animals are

[36:58] taking it.

[36:59] >> Or not taking care of our

[37:00] animals. This is about the

[37:02] rule of law and what is

[37:04] required not only for the

[37:07] animal welfare league, but for

[37:09] all 5, 0, 1, 3, c's that we

[37:12] require. If you want our tax

[37:12] dollars.

[37:13] >> We would like to know how

[37:15] that money is being spent and

[37:19] how it's being spent. And as

[37:21] business owners as Lynn

[37:23] Matthews pointed out, are

[37:26] alive. What is our return on

[37:28] investment? Are the animals

[37:29] truly being taken care of or

[37:33] where is this money going? We

[37:36] have the rule of law on our

[37:40] side in order to demand the

[37:40] answer to those questions

[37:43] before we move any further. I

[37:44] appreciate your time and GOD

[37:47] bless everyone today. Thank

[37:48] you. Thank you, sir. Thank you

[37:49] for your comments, MR. Tim

[37:52] Richey, our one. I'm sorry.

[37:55] That's one.

[38:24] >> good morning, everybody.

[38:27] >> Are seeded day. We have.

[38:32] Seen up. And it's for Glades

[38:40] County. There's going to be

[38:42] $200,000. Nats provided by the

[38:51] epa. And then we've got This

[38:55] little graph here for the

[38:56] Glades signed by Shannon seen

[39:01] out. Then we've got this inter

[39:02] local agreement with the

[39:07] Manatee County and Cena. Last

[39:08] time. Any of you been him on

[39:10] the Peace River? Yeah. Look

[39:17] closely. Commissioner to Axe.

[39:17] You know, we're in phase 3

[39:22] water shortage per swiftmud.

[39:23] You know what's going on up

[39:24] the Peace River and the Myakka

[39:31] River. I'll tell you why.

[39:32] Mosaic fertilizer phosphate

[39:38] mining slash Mikel company.

[39:39] >> All are harbored. I want

[39:40] you all to know this because I

[39:44] was on Radio Saint Pete

[39:45] Saturday and I let him know.

[39:46] Do you know much environmental

[39:46] damage? Mosaic has done to our

[39:52] harbor in our river? Take a

[39:53] wild guess. They got hit with

[39:55] a 1.8 billion dollar

[39:56] environmental find. And 26

[40:02] 2015. I asked him it from

[40:02] Tampa Bay to Charlotte Harbor

[40:06] in the ala fire.

[40:06] >> The little manatee, the

[40:10] manatee Miac in peace.

[40:11] >> I bet you Commissioner

[40:15] Dority. We're pushing 500 to

[40:15] 750.

[40:16] >> Billion dollars in

[40:20] environmental damage. And what

[40:27] have we gotten from Ciena?

[40:28] What have we gotten from any

[40:29] 501 c that we give money to?

[40:30] Tell you what a big fat 0,

[40:34] everybody. How much money will

[40:35] it cost to dredge the Peace

[40:42] River from Lake Hancock? Past

[40:42] party through DeSoto to

[40:43] Charlotte County to the end of

[40:47] our harbor. And what are we

[40:48] going to do with that? 12 to

[40:55] 15 feet of muck. Each one of

[40:56] the rivers I mentioned need

[41:02] that. Have any of you reading

[41:05] the letter to Governor Mosaic

[41:07] say we want to investigate

[41:09] these wastewater facilities in

[41:10] reverse osmosis that MISTER

[41:12] Tim Ritchie are citizen water

[41:12] czar.

[41:16] >> Hasn't told Senator

[41:16] Albritton has told the Peace

[41:17] River Water Authority in all

[41:20] of you. I want to see a letter

[41:21] written by the next meeting

[41:22] from one of you. Thank you,

[41:24] sir. Thank Men's.

[41:25] >> Just for the record that

[41:29] was item r-one. There are

[41:30] local agreement between

[41:30] Charlotte County on behalf of

[41:32] the coastal in Hartland

[41:33] National Estuary Partnership

[41:36] in Manatee County. Not s one.

[41:37] >> Thank you. Commissioner

[41:38] covers water, whole enchilada.

[41:39] >> No, that was for my board.

[41:40] For the record. Thank you,

[41:50] sir. Cole Kelley s one. Good

[41:53] morning commissioners. Good

[41:54] morning, sir. My name is Cole

[41:58] Kelley and I'm running for the

[41:59] tdc more. I strongly feel that

[42:00] I would be the best applicant

[42:00] and I would love to serve our

[42:04] county on this board. I am

[42:05] Sunseeker resorts, current

[42:06] water sports provider to my

[42:07] company, p#

[42:07] #

[42:08] #

[42:08] Gorda Ventures.

[42:09] I worked very closely with

[42:10] Fisherman's Village to my

[42:11] company and the Charlotte

[42:14] Harbor got map on the

[42:16] forefront of ai and technology

[42:17] and this business, but also

[42:18] being a captain and working on

[42:21] the water every single day. I

[42:22] also have a good mix of

[42:23] conservation and I know what

[42:24] makes our destination extra

[42:28] special out on the water we

[42:30] currently have over 75,000

[42:32] followers on all platforms

[42:33] actively work in promoting our

[42:35] destination with the Tourism

[42:38] bureau already on a very

[42:39] frequent basis. I think my

[42:42] young mix of ai for technology

[42:42] also still being able to

[42:47] balance things for.

[42:47] Conservation efforts would be

[42:49] best served to that. Our

[42:53] tourism development County

[42:54] actively involved in all types

[42:56] of conservation projects

[42:57] around Charlotte County,

[42:58] including captains for clean

[43:00] water. The Coastal

[43:01] Conservation Association, and

[43:02] we just planted a 10 metric

[43:05] ton oyster. That out in Turtle

[43:07] Bay. I am young and active in

[43:09] the community and as well as

[43:12] in business. I didn't have a

[43:13] hospitality business decades

[43:15] actively working with the

[43:16] current members on the board.

[43:17] And I think together we can

[43:20] make a really great change for

[43:21] the county. Some of the things

[43:21] that I think are really

[43:22] important is to have better

[43:25] signage at some of our out

[43:28] landing places as well as

[43:28] helping bring a larger

[43:29] corporate groups and that the

[43:30] county to promote better bet

[43:32] taxing. Thank you so much.

[43:33] Look forward to working hard

[43:34] for you in citizens of

[43:35] Charlotte County on the tours

[43:38] Thank your comments. Are Ariel

[43:45] Frein Ard s 3. Area less open

[43:58] areas coming around.

[43:58] >> Good afternoon.

[44:00] Commissioners Ariel Frein with

[44:02] House interest a senior vice

[44:03] PRESIDENT With House interest

[44:04] Group are based out of 3 to 5

[44:08] Aviation Avenue Coconut Grove,

[44:08] Florida. Very happy to be with

[44:10] you here. All regarding

[44:11] Murdoch Square. The other

[44:11] development that is requesting

[44:16] local government contribution.

[44:17] I've had a chance to meet with

[44:18] some of but not all. And I

[44:19] wanted to first and foremost

[44:20] into his House interest group.

[44:22] We have a develop over 10,000

[44:26] unit since 1997. Most of our

[44:29] developments are working with

[44:29] local nonprofits,

[44:30] municipalities, private

[44:32] entities all across the state

[44:34] and nationwide. Our team is

[44:35] vertically integrated. So we

[44:36] have development, finance,

[44:37] construction and management in

[44:42] House we are very excited

[44:45] about Murdoch's where because

[44:45] back in 2025 we were working

[44:47] with staff to identify the

[44:48] area of interests where we can

[44:51] bring a site forward to the

[44:52] state. And we believe right on

[44:53] Veterans Boulevard close to

[44:56] Port Charlotte Town Center is

[44:56] an excellent opportunity to

[44:57] bring affordable housing

[45:00] development of a quality to

[45:01] the county. One thing I want

[45:02] to address and some of the

[45:03] comments that were made as

[45:04] relates to, you know, the site

[45:05] in the scoring that were done

[45:08] at have. So we have a

[45:09] long-term site control with

[45:09] the seller, which is what the

[45:13] requirement is we wanted to

[45:13] identify infill site close to

[45:15] employment centers close to

[45:18] work close to walkability to

[45:19] give people that live there.

[45:20] The residents, the opportunity

[45:22] to not have to rely heavily on

[45:24] transit and to be close to

[45:25] their work and their job. That

[45:25] was the goal. And that's a

[45:28] scoring criteria at the state.

[45:28] The 3rd, the scoring as it

[45:33] relates to hot. The only

[45:33] reason that we scored lower is

[45:34] because we were offering a

[45:36] wider range of income levels.

[45:38] So we were offering some 70%

[45:39] and my unit and we are also

[45:40] offering lower band of 30%.

[45:44] >> Just to give you

[45:45] perspective, a family of a

[45:46] family of 3 household. That's

[45:48] earning about $60,000 would

[45:51] technically be priced out of

[45:51] the Blue Deep Creek site just

[45:52] based on earning too much

[45:55] money where we wanted to

[45:58] capture that if, you match it

[45:59] the same out if we were to

[46:00] match the same income levels,

[46:02] we would actually scored one

[46:03] point higher. And that's due

[46:06] to our superior location of

[46:07] the site. The other thing I

[46:08] just want to know, blue Deep

[46:09] Creek is not permit ready this

[46:11] year. So our goal is as well

[46:13] to start spending money on

[46:14] design and construction

[46:15] engineering drawings so that

[46:16] we are permit ready letter.

[46:17] Should we not be obtaining the

[46:19] funding next year? And lastly,

[46:22] I would say, you know, we have

[46:24] more units. We have 3 bedroom

[46:26] units to capture a larger

[46:27] families and higher chances of

[46:28] funding. So thank you very

[46:32] much. Thank you, sir.

[46:33] >> Comm. Tiseo: That was my

[46:34] last speaking cards. The last

[46:35] call anybody wishing to speak.

[46:35] Please come forward state your

[46:36] name. For the record. You'll

[46:37] have 3 minutes. And when

[46:38] you're done, we'll get you to

[46:40] fill out a card.

[46:46] >> Good morning. Commissioners

[46:47] Jennifer hacker with the coast

[46:48] on Heartland. National Estuary

[46:49] Partnership speaking on Pia

[46:53] Lebanon are one first. Want to

[46:54] clarify where with the U.S.

[46:58] Epa? Not 501, c 3. And we

[46:59] wanted to just quickly,

[47:02] correct for the record and for

[47:02] the public that we do and have

[47:03] done many, many things and

[47:06] continue to do for Charlotte

[47:07] County. We ourselves have

[47:09] funded over 20 years of water

[47:12] sampling in Charlotte Harbor.

[47:13] We put all of that data onto

[47:15] the chmp water Atlas where

[47:16] it's publicly accessible with

[47:18] data analysis, tools to give

[47:19] you real life readouts on the

[47:21] water conditions out there in

[47:21] the harbor and other waterways

[47:25] in Charlotte County. We also

[47:27] have fun recently finished

[47:30] funding the for 200,000. The

[47:30] Comprehensive vulnerability

[47:33] assessment in Charlotte

[47:34] County, which will make you

[47:35] eligible for more resiliency.

[47:38] Florida state grants and that

[47:39] kind of identify where you're

[47:41] vulnerable. Critical assets

[47:43] are and what we need to help

[47:43] adapt those to be more

[47:46] resilient for future storms.

[47:49] We also are embarking on a new

[47:51] project with your staff called

[47:51] the Charlotte County

[47:53] exceptional ponds. It is

[47:54] project that your staff

[47:55] brought to us that we are now

[47:56] funding and will begin this

[48:00] year. We also find keep

[48:01] Charlotte beautiful to do

[48:04] cleanups throughout the

[48:05] community. That's just a

[48:06] sampling of the many things

[48:07] that we are providing to you.

[48:09] The return on investment is

[48:11] tenfold for what you provide

[48:13] to us and what we provide back

[48:14] and being able to leverage

[48:15] those funds to get federal

[48:17] funds back to our community. I

[48:21] just wanted to also say that

[48:22] the water quality problems. We

[48:24] experience in Charlotte Harbor

[48:25] are not isolated,

[48:25] unfortunately to the Peace

[48:26] River. We cover the myakka the

[48:28] peace and Caloosahatchee

[48:30] River. A lot of our study show

[48:32] that the loading coming out.

[48:34] The Caloosahatchee has one of

[48:35] the most serious impacts lower

[48:38] Charlotte Harbor. It's what's

[48:40] driving nutrients into this

[48:42] estuary and really, you know,

[48:43] not to say that the peace

[48:44] myakka part also an issue. And

[48:47] there are also nutrient loads,

[48:49] but we actually have done the

[48:51] science to see that the

[48:52] Caloosahatchee, unfortunately

[48:54] is the largest driver of the 3

[48:54] river systems. We are working

[48:57] on all 3 of them. But Clades

[49:00] County, of course, sits on the

[49:02] Caloosahatchee. So it really

[49:05] does behoove the people of

[49:06] Charlotte County to address

[49:07] issue and a regional scale.

[49:07] And we are happy to partner

[49:09] with you to do that. Thank

[49:09] you. Thank your comment.

[49:13] Ma'am.

[49:14] >> Comm. Tiseo: Last call

[49:14] anybody wishing speak. Please

[49:15] come forward. State. Your

[49:16] name. For the record. You'll

[49:18] have 3 minutes.

[49:19] >> I am tears, ages and

[49:19] executive director for the

[49:22] animal off early. And I just

[49:23] want to take one minute to

[49:23] publicly thank Hector Flores

[49:27] and Emily Lewis. For their

[49:27] time and dedication as well as

[49:31] all of appear for working very

[49:32] hard with all of us at the

[49:34] animal Welfare League. For not

[49:37] only coming to. Partially

[49:41] agreeing with our contract,

[49:42] but for working very hard over

[49:46] the last 4 weeks. To try very

[49:49] hard to come to an agreement

[49:50] for today. We didn't quite get

[49:51] but we're working very hard

[49:51] and we're hopeful to come to

[49:54] you on SEPTEMBER. 8th. But I

[49:54] just want to take the time to

[49:57] thank them publicly for their

[49:57] hard work and dedication. It's

[49:58] been a pleasure to work with

[50:02] the over the last couple

[50:02] weeks.

[50:03] >> Comm. Tiseo: Thank you very

[50:04] much. Thank you for your

[50:04] anyone else wishing speak.

[50:05] Please come forward state.

[50:06] Your name for the record.

[50:09] You'll have 3 minutes. Okay.

[50:10] Nobody's rising move on to

[50:10] consent. Commissioner

[50:11] Deutsche, anything the Bull.

[50:15] Commissioner Truex.

[50:16] Commissioner Constance.

[50:17] Nothing commissioned already

[50:19] nothing. I have nothing the

[50:19] Motion. Second move the

[50:21] consent. Is there any further

[50:22] discussion? Commissioner

[50:27] Constance

[50:28] >> Comm. Constance: 9 is the

[50:29] approve ranking designed for

[50:29] and your fishing pier

[50:35] community services. Up the

[50:36] last meeting that you know,

[50:37] having an issue with the fact

[50:38] that the 41 bridges have been

[50:41] closed to fishing and we're

[50:42] going address it at the mpo

[50:44] meeting on Monday. Like to

[50:48] request MR. Flores have.

[50:49] Somebody from staff, whether

[50:52] MR. Elias War. Tommy or

[50:54] somebody becoming just give us

[50:55] a brief update on what's

[51:00] happening with. All of the

[51:03] fishing piers in general. Just

[51:04] a synopsis because we're going

[51:05] to we're going to we're going

[51:05] to probably room full of fish

[51:06] there. And I just want to make

[51:07] sure that we have some of you

[51:08] to give an update because

[51:11] we're gonna he's speaking with

[51:11] MR. Gaither and the secretary.

[51:13] And I think we're going to to

[51:14] a resolution, but I think it's

[51:15] important. We have everything

[51:16] on the table for everyone. So

[51:17] folks know that currently

[51:18] what's available and what our

[51:21] plan to resolve the issue will

[51:21] be. I just don't want to go on

[51:22] that one. I think it's

[51:23] important. We have full

[51:25] disclosure where we're at and

[51:26] also what's happening just in

[51:30] general with permitting. Army

[51:32] Corps why it's taking so long

[51:36] it's a an understandable

[51:36] frustration. We just think an

[51:37] update would be would be well,

[51:38] advised that that meeting.

[51:39] Thank Thank you, Sir.

[51:44] Commissioner

[51:44] >> Comm. Deutsch: Thank you.

[51:45] We discussed this on on 1, 1,

[51:46] so they I think a lot of us I

[51:47] know I was concerned about the

[51:52] closing of of the bridge for

[51:54] fishing and and specifically

[51:55] and from what I understand the

[51:56] information that got passed

[52:00] down to me literally. The

[52:00] state reacted to one

[52:03] complaint. There was one

[52:07] complaint from one person

[52:08] about the fishing on the

[52:10] bridge. And I think they

[52:11] overreacted to that. I think

[52:13] they've acknowledged that. And

[52:17] I think we anticipate and the

[52:18] next few days, if not the next

[52:19] few weeks that the bridge be

[52:26] open again to fish. So, thank

[52:26] you, sir.

[52:27] >> Yeah, just quick comment. I

[52:29] believe Missus. Lewis has a a

[52:29] comprehensive list of the pier

[52:31] so we can make that available

[52:33] pretty easy them like a one

[52:33] pager with the update, the

[52:34] status and where we are with

[52:37] with each with each of those

[52:38] Piers, is there any further

[52:39] discussion on this item? Is

[52:40] there any opposition to the

[52:45] motion? Okay. Consent passes

[52:46] unanimously. We're gonna move

[52:47] on to regular agenda. 1.5

[52:50] ballot. Tourist Development

[52:52] Council.

[52:55] >> is it too early.

[53:36] Okay. Commissioners for this

[53:37] item for the Tourist

[53:40] Development Council ballot MR.

[53:40] Cole Kelley has the majority

[53:41] to have much

[53:45] >> We have a Do we have a

[53:45] motion? Mr, killing? Yeah,

[53:50] yes. We have a second. Motion

[53:52] is second to approve. MISTER

[53:54] Kelly has the new tourist

[53:55] Development Council any

[53:59] discussion. Is there any

[54:00] further discussion? Is there

[54:01] any opposition to the motion

[54:05] that passes unanimously okay.

[54:05] We'll move on to item s to

[54:07] Metro forecasting model

[54:07] update, MR. Your next

[54:12] PRESIDENT.

[54:13] >> Morning commissioners been

[54:14] Bailey community Development

[54:14] director. I'm just here to

[54:15] introduce David Farmer from

[54:16] Metro forecasting to give us

[54:17] the latest update on

[54:18] population projections. So

[54:25] they will hand it over to him.

[54:26] >> been warning for the

[54:26] record. My name is David Frum,

[54:27] representing Metro forecasting

[54:28] models think happened here

[54:33] today. It's to that. My

[54:34] partner, Dr Paul Buskirk

[54:35] invented the knack of growth

[54:36] models that we've been using

[54:36] for the last 3 years to model

[54:39] you. In fact, why do show it

[54:42] off in this presentation? You

[54:43] know, any extra money that

[54:44] ever left over for projects.

[54:47] We do all those back and are

[54:48] indeed we just developed the

[54:48] Five-point-one that was used

[54:52] for this update. Quick walk

[54:52] down memory lane. We

[54:53] originally started working for

[54:56] you in 2023. We didn't update

[54:57] and 2024 because that was part

[54:58] of the original contract to do

[55:02] an automatic update. Then we

[55:05] updated again twice in 2025

[55:06] FEBRUARY and then again,

[55:06] FEBRUARY, they did then and

[55:07] then with AUGUST 8 in

[55:09] DECEMBER. And now we're here

[55:11] today with the APRIL data. And

[55:12] this time we've actually

[55:14] backfield our data with

[55:17] certificate of occupancy data,

[55:18] which might sound like bunch

[55:18] of gobbledygook. But that

[55:20] means that dead-on accurate.

[55:21] We have every single not

[55:26] verified and uncommitted. Just

[55:27] a quick refresher on the igm.

[55:29] It's a very active, very

[55:33] complex growth management

[55:34] tool. It's it's really

[55:34] designed for long-range

[55:36] planning, planning for

[55:36] facilities and informing

[55:38] boards like yourselves of the

[55:40] needs that that meant to be

[55:42] readily obvious. But looking

[55:43] 5.10, years down the road, can

[55:44] see these things are needed to

[55:45] begin plan budget for them

[55:48] plan for the next senator. We

[55:50] also use ai is part of our a

[55:51] bill that analysis. It helps

[55:53] give us more accuracy because

[55:56] some zonings allowed multiple

[55:57] outcomes and yet the model can

[55:59] take just one for a partial.

[56:02] And so we we use that for that

[56:03] analysis and this and update

[56:04] also helped us identify some

[56:05] micro macro trends, which I'll

[56:08] be sharing with you today.

[56:09] What really makes us different

[56:10] than our competition?

[56:13] Actually, most forecasters in

[56:13] general is that we believe

[56:15] that growth happens in an

[56:18] organic fashion following

[56:20] logistic curve to get a little

[56:20] ahead of myself. We have 353

[56:23] zones in Charlotte County and

[56:25] each one have the very home,

[56:28] very complex curve that makes

[56:28] that up. In fact, our new

[56:29] model election now looks at

[56:30] all of the building data per

[56:32] zone and then does a ton of

[56:34] statistical now cycle 1100

[56:35] times to reach the growth

[56:41] factors for each one of these.

[56:42] As you probably aware when you

[56:44] have a whole bunch of zone, 1,

[56:45] 2, 3 zone, 4, 5, 6, they're

[56:48] just numbers only mean much.

[56:49] So we categorize them into

[56:49] clusters so that when we talk

[56:51] about things are a little more

[56:53] interesting right? The said

[56:55] zone 4, 5, 6 was Babcock are

[56:56] part of plot that sort thing.

[56:57] But I say Babcock now you can

[56:58] 0, one exactly what I'm

[56:59] talking about. And that's why

[57:01] we do those. All right. So

[57:04] jumping right to the desert to

[57:04] the findings. You've had some

[57:05] growth in case you weren't

[57:11] aware. A 2022. Is your peak.

[57:14] And and to no fault. I mean

[57:15] this through no fault of your

[57:16] planning department or your

[57:17] facilities, directors or what

[57:19] not the levels of service have

[57:22] declined. That brings a bullet

[57:23] point. Number 2, it's a climb

[57:24] because you've had 50,000

[57:28] people since the census.

[57:30] That's more than a 25% growth

[57:31] rate in 5 years. I know you're

[57:32] feeling and can see it when

[57:32] you drive around town and so

[57:36] forth. And I know you know

[57:37] this, but I to say on the

[57:38] record, that's a lot. That's

[57:39] why I moved here from

[57:42] Fairbanks, Alaska, the greater

[57:43] favorite areas, very slow

[57:45] 32,000. But there is a 50,000

[57:47] today. That was a 99. Today,

[57:49] 50,000. You guys have added

[57:50] that he all of the springs

[57:52] picked up and moved here since

[57:52] 2020 is the kind of people are

[57:59] talking about. Since JANUARY.

[58:01] 25 2025 you have added 7500

[58:03] units. And if you pay

[58:05] attention to building very

[58:05] wait a minute date. This

[58:06] crazy. Didn't we had an issue

[58:07] that many building permits

[58:12] that's what we call lag. Lax

[58:13] especially with higher in

[58:14] single-family homes and

[58:15] multifamily projects. That

[58:16] could be 18 to 24 months from

[58:18] when you issue a permit for

[58:20] that actually hits the books

[58:20] and shows up. But again, these

[58:22] are all verified the CEOs

[58:24] because I looked at number 4,

[58:25] 5 times to make sure that it

[58:26] was right because it was a it

[58:32] was a big one. So you've had

[58:34] an ongoing trend. Your

[58:35] commercial development back

[58:37] in. 23 was about 70 square

[58:38] feet per capita. And I've got

[58:38] a graph to show you a few

[58:42] minutes show that stacks up.

[58:44] But is your commercial, your

[58:45] daddy, that a few 100,000

[58:47] square feet over the last few

[58:48] years. But it's just not

[58:48] keeping up with your

[58:49] population growth and that's

[58:50] adding to congestion and in

[58:53] traffic woes and so forth

[58:54] today, you're at about 63

[58:56] square feet on a per capita

[58:58] basis. We think that pretty

[59:00] sure this is true, you're

[59:01] leaking to your retail demand

[59:04] is leaking both Charlotte

[59:05] County to that are to serve

[59:06] the county to the north of the

[59:07] Lee County to the South.

[59:08] Michigan doesn't Commissioner

[59:09] Constance you're recognized.

[59:11] Yeah. Go Your presentations or

[59:12] is amazing. I do want to ask

[59:18] though. You know, a lot of

[59:19] >> Comm. Constance: the sales

[59:19] that have gone on in the last

[59:20] 20 years, especially covid.

[59:21] He's been very disruptive and

[59:23] a lot of people just shopping

[59:28] by their mailbox. So. You

[59:29] know, I would assume we're

[59:30] going to be seeing a lot more

[59:35] delivery service. Type of

[59:36] businesses booming. As you

[59:36] know, if you go to the mall,

[59:37] it's very quiet. If you go to

[59:40] a lot of the yes, small

[59:42] businesses that you arrive on

[59:43] foot, they're not getting shot

[59:46] as they were 20 years ago. So

[59:51] is part of that lag in your

[59:52] estimation, underestimated or

[59:55] overestimated? In other words.

[59:57] If we're looking at by the old

[59:59] standards, you're way behind

[59:59] But the new standards, again,

[1:00:00] you're being organic and how

[1:00:02] you're looking these things.

[1:00:06] Maybe this is just the new

[1:00:07] normal.

[1:00:08] >> Right. And that's I would

[1:00:08] remiss in my job if I had

[1:00:09] heard that question 4 and had

[1:00:11] an answer ready for u n it's

[1:00:13] just a canned answer.

[1:00:18] >> We're well aware of the

[1:00:18] Amazon defecation, if you

[1:00:20] will. That's a real word or

[1:00:21] not. People shopping from from

[1:00:21] their from their laptops and

[1:00:22] from that them from their

[1:00:25] phones. That does happen. But

[1:00:25] there's also things like

[1:00:29] Instacart you've heard of that

[1:00:30] will those still of its money

[1:00:33] from real retail centers. And

[1:00:34] so yes, in the old days and

[1:00:34] I'll show you in our in my

[1:00:38] chart a few minutes here that

[1:00:39] actually 100 square feet was

[1:00:40] considered absolutely normal

[1:00:43] for an area to have some

[1:00:44] places that have tourism have

[1:00:47] a higher per capita. Some

[1:00:48] places have a lower one

[1:00:48] because of either

[1:00:50] socioeconomic issues or

[1:00:53] because there are shopping in

[1:00:54] nearby counties. But we think

[1:00:54] that you still should be in

[1:00:57] the 75 range easy without

[1:01:00] breaking this for sweat. Part

[1:01:02] of this could also be not just

[1:01:03] retail facilities, but also a

[1:01:04] lag in unemployment as well.

[1:01:10] So we'd like to encourage some

[1:01:10] redevelopment in in this area

[1:01:12] right here where I stand. I

[1:01:12] was just it was amazing. Drunk

[1:01:16] driving 41 this morning of all

[1:01:16] that the retail and shops and

[1:01:17] businesses to the side, which

[1:01:22] is great but I think about all

[1:01:22] of the new people that are

[1:01:23] really living on Babcock and

[1:01:26] that sort of area and off to

[1:01:26] the west and of course, north

[1:01:27] of here as well. You've had a

[1:01:30] huge influx of people and

[1:01:31] those areas. When you look at,

[1:01:32] they basically about a 7.11,

[1:01:35] are food deserts. I'm not

[1:01:36] calling that clock a few

[1:01:36] dozen. Of course, they have a

[1:01:37] Publix got another one on the

[1:01:40] way. But we still think that

[1:01:40] you're short, no matter which

[1:01:44] way we slice it. Yes, those

[1:01:45] those services are reducing

[1:01:46] the need for some of the big

[1:01:49] box stores. But not as much as

[1:01:54] one might think.

[1:01:54] >> So and I don't know how

[1:01:55] much we You could I don't know

[1:01:56] how much you've researched

[1:01:57] North port, but I'm sure you

[1:01:59] have to look at the

[1:02:03] surrounding areas and have a

[1:02:03] feed-in. You have any kind of

[1:02:04] an assessment about how they

[1:02:05] run because they have a pretty

[1:02:06] healthy commercial corridor

[1:02:08] from the from the Charlotte

[1:02:11] County Line North. You know,

[1:02:16] they didn't plan well. 4.

[1:02:16] >> Comm. Constance: Multiple

[1:02:17] malls and businesses that, you

[1:02:20] know, a lot of going frequent

[1:02:21] general when so close, we've

[1:02:21] kind of grown into Sarasota

[1:02:24] County in that respect.

[1:02:25] >> Comm. Constance: how has

[1:02:27] their planning work doubt they

[1:02:28] had to, you know, an ability

[1:02:31] to wait 30 years and plan

[1:02:32] after, you know, they saw what

[1:02:35] went on with, you know, a

[1:02:36] little stripped areas on 41,

[1:02:37] maybe not a successful word.

[1:02:39] We're having some. You know,

[1:02:43] again, resurgence regeneration

[1:02:44] reworking promenades at some

[1:02:45] point. Going to come on with

[1:02:45] that with a new iteration

[1:02:48] which we've approved. So and

[1:02:51] the mall here will get

[1:02:52] redevelopment. Some point you

[1:02:53] know, what is your opinion of

[1:02:55] what's going I so. Will you

[1:02:58] show a county's population has

[1:02:59] been greater than North

[1:03:00] port's? North port had more of

[1:03:01] a concentration of population.

[1:03:01] And I think that attracted

[1:03:05] some of the uses that you are.

[1:03:05] >> Comm. Constance: You are

[1:03:07] residents actually are

[1:03:08] enjoying right now. And in

[1:03:08] some cases it's much faster to

[1:03:12] drive just. A mile north to

[1:03:14] shop in North port. And it is

[1:03:14] down here because, again, of

[1:03:15] some of the congestion that we

[1:03:18] have.

[1:03:18] >> they

[1:03:19] >> certainly have some uses

[1:03:22] that you don't. But I think

[1:03:22] that largely Charlotte County

[1:03:26] undiscovered in terms of what

[1:03:28] it could be by some of our our

[1:03:29] major retailers are are

[1:03:30] realizing especially out west

[1:03:34] that that West Cluster is just

[1:03:34] breathtaking. Don't know which

[1:03:41] one the West, but West to to

[1:03:42] axe. It's just it. My jaw

[1:03:42] drops. Every time I look at

[1:03:45] the building permitting over

[1:03:45] there and the concentration

[1:03:46] now you've got power, all

[1:03:49] energize now to the South. We

[1:03:50] think that there is highly

[1:03:51] underserved not tried a trick

[1:03:52] question about northward, but

[1:03:53] it's convenient. Yes, tried to

[1:03:56] North port right? We don't

[1:03:57] want to say that there's a

[1:03:58] line. But for every tax dollar

[1:04:00] that's spent across the county

[1:04:01] line, that's another dollar. A

[1:04:02] portion of dollar doesn't

[1:04:05] repay tree itself. Back to the

[1:04:06] county. So and I know that I

[1:04:07] relate my customers. You guys

[1:04:08] are the government. Your job

[1:04:11] is not to build retailer that

[1:04:12] and you So you guys have a lot

[1:04:14] of vacant land and your

[1:04:14] economic develop. Team is

[1:04:16] doing an excellent job. We

[1:04:19] just need to make sure that

[1:04:20] we're encouraging some

[1:04:21] commercial centers, especially

[1:04:23] to the West. The Babcock has

[1:04:25] really been a poster child of

[1:04:26] the right thing to do their

[1:04:27] commercials coming online.

[1:04:28] Bricks, brisk pace faster than

[1:04:34] I would imagine with it with

[1:04:35] similar population growth in

[1:04:35] an organized fashion. But has

[1:04:36] been really great. Bringing on

[1:04:37] industrial and commercial to

[1:04:39] meet the needs that residents

[1:04:40] like to see some of that and

[1:04:43] more in in the West Cluster

[1:04:45] and in the north part of the

[1:04:45] Mid cluster to meet the

[1:04:46] existing demands and the

[1:04:47] growing demands that are

[1:04:53] coming. Think so. Yeah. Let's

[1:04:54] that credit update. The Inuit

[1:04:56] allows me to look at the data,

[1:04:57] our laws, our whole team, to

[1:04:58] look at the data and then

[1:04:58] report to you what we're

[1:05:02] seeing. This is a a graphic

[1:05:03] showing by 4, 5 times every

[1:05:07] time it's been updated, this

[1:05:09] is different than every graph

[1:05:10] that we've done for a

[1:05:11] population mostly because as a

[1:05:12] sharp acute angle that is very

[1:05:16] disjointed and unusual. The

[1:05:17] genesis of that, we believe is

[1:05:20] Westport Slash Murdoch and

[1:05:21] Babcock coming online at the

[1:05:23] same time, your bill that has

[1:05:23] always been us about the same

[1:05:25] it is today. Maybe a little

[1:05:27] bit less. But the rate of

[1:05:28] growth in the change of

[1:05:29] absorption has really changed

[1:05:29] those 2 projects. And let's

[1:05:32] not forget about covid. You

[1:05:32] can't overlook that. And not

[1:05:36] only that, it is, but you can

[1:05:37] see now the growth in the

[1:05:38] future is it looks cheaper

[1:05:39] because it's a little

[1:05:41] compressed from left to right.

[1:05:42] But you have a nice trajectory

[1:05:45] now going. And I think that it

[1:05:46] once even Westport builds out.

[1:05:48] You're going to see a lot more

[1:05:48] interest in the areas west for

[1:05:49] has has taken on more

[1:05:52] commercial. And it's more

[1:05:53] convenient place to live. If

[1:05:54] that makes sense, that's going

[1:05:54] accelerate growth in area much

[1:05:57] the way that that first or

[1:05:58] will want to finally see some

[1:06:00] commercial down that way.

[1:06:01] Commissioner Door recognized.

[1:06:03] Thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN Day,

[1:06:04] I'm just looking at your table

[1:06:05] you know, we see it before.

[1:06:07] You've updated the number of

[1:06:08] cases previously you indicated

[1:06:10] that we would probably hit 50%

[1:06:11] of our build a population of

[1:06:13] around 2030.

[1:06:18] >> Obviously now it's moved up

[1:06:20] to. We want 27 28 zoning. 2

[1:06:21] years to 3 years will only

[1:06:24] achieve. 50% of our total

[1:06:28] build out population. Just

[1:06:30] that settle. We will only be

[1:06:31] half way with our total

[1:06:37] population. So but that just

[1:06:38] absorb as to what it's going

[1:06:39] to be like here in 20 to 30

[1:06:39] years, if we don't keep up

[1:06:40] with infrastructure. Thank

[1:06:44] you, MISTER. Thank you, sir.

[1:06:45] We also to look at the same

[1:06:47] graph. You look at 2040,

[1:06:53] 310,000. You know, you are you

[1:06:53] one 87.

[1:06:53] >> Yet the census and now

[1:06:54] we're talking about 3.10, to

[1:06:55] 20 years later. And that is

[1:07:02] Your growth has been. I don't

[1:07:05] think it's going to slow down

[1:07:05] the. I think that you yes,

[1:07:05] it's going to slow down from

[1:07:05] its peak. You guys are well

[1:07:07] past peak. But but the growth

[1:07:07] Regency today, I think you're

[1:07:10] going to see that continue on

[1:07:16] for quite some time.

[1:07:17] Population people come from

[1:07:18] houses writer, they live in

[1:07:20] houses. East ideally. And so

[1:07:21] the more housing is we have

[1:07:23] the more population we today.

[1:07:24] We're sitting on just under

[1:07:27] 136,000 housing units actually

[1:07:31] that was as the end of MARCH.

[1:07:31] And and you can see your build

[1:07:34] out is is protective mask to

[1:07:35] be about Will tell you that

[1:07:39] numbers low. I'll tell you

[1:07:40] that because the methodology

[1:07:41] we use as we do go around,

[1:07:43] just knocking down shopping

[1:07:44] centers and putting in

[1:07:45] multi-family or residential

[1:07:48] that you have an approved. But

[1:07:50] I look at my crystal ball,

[1:07:50] especially drive up. 41 and I

[1:07:51] can say 100 use a look at

[1:07:53] their 100 is look at there.

[1:07:54] Your your bill that is

[1:07:57] probably going to be closer to

[1:08:00] 2.85, maybe 10290,000 units.

[1:08:01] But that's a whole lot of this

[1:08:03] Lot of boards from now. You'll

[1:08:09] be adding 13,000 more homes

[1:08:09] between now and 2030, bring

[1:08:14] more people with it I hope you

[1:08:17] like this. Next session. I'm

[1:08:18] trying to make a point here.

[1:08:20] So we develop this back in

[1:08:21] 2023 to show you how each area

[1:08:24] was growing. And I think it's

[1:08:26] not fast enough for years in,

[1:08:31] we started the left-hand Look

[1:08:32] at Babcock. One might

[1:08:33] incorrectly assume down. It's,

[1:08:35] you know, it's growth is not

[1:08:36] growing. Really? It's it's

[1:08:37] maxed out its rate of growth.

[1:08:38] And now it's in a linear phase

[1:08:41] of that. So that we see those

[1:08:43] bars will continue fly for 5

[1:08:44] more years and then a slight

[1:08:48] will go down in there velocity

[1:08:49] as as Babcock starts

[1:08:50] approaching it, it's it's

[1:08:51] build out. We look at first a

[1:08:55] road you can definitely see

[1:08:56] the projects that have been

[1:08:58] approved by you and are taking

[1:09:00] root and building down that

[1:09:03] way. We look at East member

[1:09:04] East does not include the

[1:09:06] Babcock area. We pulled that

[1:09:08] out separately. You can see

[1:09:10] there's a little burst. Think

[1:09:10] that's p#

[1:09:10] #

[1:09:11] #

[1:09:11] Gorda where that

[1:09:12] growth that took place and we

[1:09:15] look at the mid we told you a

[1:09:16] long time ago that this area

[1:09:19] right here is still your

[1:09:19] number one goal spot no matter

[1:09:20] what it's good. But terms of

[1:09:21] velocity, in terms out now

[1:09:23] growth, this is it right here.

[1:09:25] The this whole cluster around

[1:09:31] us. It has a a large appetite

[1:09:32] for services and a lot of

[1:09:33] vacant. Lots still this area

[1:09:34] is not even approaching in

[1:09:37] close to build up. I'm not

[1:09:38] even half fact, for some of

[1:09:41] the old math, this area alone

[1:09:41] is needs another 4

[1:09:43] neighborhood shopping centers

[1:09:44] blows your mind like for

[1:09:44] Publix type shopping centers.

[1:09:47] In addition to its here. I'm

[1:09:48] not saying in the downtown

[1:09:49] area but dispersed throughout

[1:09:51] the area to reduce those those

[1:09:52] trip Lakes, p#

[1:09:52] #

[1:09:53] #

[1:09:53] Gorda is

[1:09:55] fairly level and then we look

[1:09:57] at the West we see that that

[1:09:58] blast these really picked up

[1:09:59] in the past years. I think

[1:10:00] that's from your national home

[1:10:01] Not positive. I think it's

[1:10:02] your lung, ours and and others

[1:10:04] that picked up and spit sped

[1:10:08] up that velocity over there.

[1:10:09] That area 10's was will serve,

[1:10:10] especially the north end where

[1:10:11] it touches the Venice area. I

[1:10:13] believe you have Savannah's

[1:10:14] people coming down shopping.

[1:10:15] You're course we want that to

[1:10:16] continue as much as possible

[1:10:18] because it adds taxes. But to

[1:10:19] the South and the West

[1:10:23] Corridor. We need some more

[1:10:24] commercial of their. We are

[1:10:25] going to have a traffic

[1:10:26] nightmare if not already on

[1:10:29] our hands. In fact, to hand

[1:10:30] rose been doing your data last

[1:10:31] 3 years. He and I going to

[1:10:31] head West and going all the

[1:10:34] way to the south get current

[1:10:37] on what's going on over there.

[1:10:38] And we've got a new rv park.

[1:10:39] It's coming out of Maybe maybe

[1:10:43] that's open by now Hewitt. So

[1:10:44] the comparison one of the

[1:10:44] makes another we talk about

[1:10:45] every every cluster of talk

[1:10:46] about the right, the left

[1:10:49] Babcock and west. If your

[1:10:50] mind's eye keesey that 1500

[1:10:52] line and sort of dried, let's

[1:10:53] just pretend those those 2

[1:10:55] clusters are about equal in

[1:10:55] terms of their of their their

[1:10:59] home building right? Okay. So

[1:11:00] now just switch from housing

[1:11:02] used to population note note

[1:11:05] how those 2 areas were sort of

[1:11:06] same ish and note how Babcock

[1:11:09] is actually adding 3,000 more

[1:11:10] people year by the West is

[1:11:12] only adding about 2500. That

[1:11:13] is demographics. That's

[1:11:14] families versus non fat must

[1:11:17] say no family the west. But in

[1:11:17] general, when you when you

[1:11:18] average all out, we have more

[1:11:19] people per housing unit

[1:11:21] showing up in the Babcock

[1:11:23] area. I said that was

[1:11:24] interesting to show you where

[1:11:26] we have similar, how building

[1:11:27] patterns and yet different

[1:11:27] population showing up with

[1:11:34] slightly different needs. A

[1:11:35] images might look similar to

[1:11:36] They are all brand new. This

[1:11:36] is every door k#

[1:11:36] #

[1:11:36] that showed

[1:11:41] up in 2025. Call that teal.

[1:11:46] Than on orange color. Yours.

[1:11:46] Just single-family. And here

[1:11:48] you what purpose? Turquoise

[1:11:52] island, turquoise area and and

[1:11:56] the the orange are your multi

[1:11:57] families granted And I will

[1:12:00] tell you that Babcock is

[1:12:01] great. Distorted those housing

[1:12:02] units just the but the doctor

[1:12:04] so close together, they're on

[1:12:05] top of each other and you

[1:12:06] can't really fully appreciate

[1:12:06] all of the construction that's

[1:12:07] going out there. And that goes

[1:12:08] for some of the other areas

[1:12:11] around here, too. You can see

[1:12:13] especially down by where the

[1:12:14] legend where it says Charlie

[1:12:15] County residential. You can

[1:12:17] see the Birds Star Road really

[1:12:18] taking off and in the emerging

[1:12:22] as well as Tucker's point.

[1:12:25] Called the Willow, I believe.

[1:12:26] And then that West area that

[1:12:26] West areas really even the

[1:12:28] barrier island that

[1:12:30] interesting, you know, I was I

[1:12:31] the figure any year you have 2

[1:12:32] or 3 building permits out

[1:12:34] there. But what is that like

[1:12:35] 15 or 20 happening in the

[1:12:36] area? So I think these are

[1:12:39] very interesting to see in

[1:12:40] useful in terms of recognizing

[1:12:41] that it's not just one area

[1:12:42] that's going you guys are

[1:12:45] going fairly evenly as the

[1:12:45] land and utilities and such

[1:12:48] are are available. So we start

[1:12:50] with 1000 now wasn't over the

[1:12:52] population. So I said you're

[1:12:55] going to add 13,000 housing

[1:12:55] used by Twenty-thirty will in

[1:12:56] those housing units. We think

[1:12:58] you're going to be 25,000

[1:12:59] people based on the

[1:13:04] demographics and so the

[1:13:05] Westport Murdoch area is going

[1:13:07] to be that's going to

[1:13:09] represent about 21% of your of

[1:13:10] your population. We think that

[1:13:11] area will largely built out

[1:13:14] close to 2030, as it closes.

[1:13:18] Cluster of redevelopment there

[1:13:21] Babcock. 42 1% of all of your

[1:13:21] future residents between out

[1:13:22] 2030 are going to live in the

[1:13:24] Babcock area, which is why

[1:13:25] they're bringing on not only

[1:13:28] their second Publix and so in

[1:13:29] 2023, we said by 2035 for sure

[1:13:30] Babcock was going to need

[1:13:33] another one. In fact, we're a

[1:13:35] little too conservative in our

[1:13:36] in estimation, looks like it's

[1:13:38] going to get closer to 20 to

[1:13:40] 29 out there, which which is a

[1:13:40] very good thing, actually

[1:13:43] increase even more velocity.

[1:13:43] We think of demand for

[1:13:48] development. We then have a

[1:13:48] 14% people showing up in the

[1:13:51] West Coast, which is mind

[1:13:52] boggling to me. When I look at

[1:13:53] all those building permits

[1:13:55] showing up in also underscores

[1:13:55] what's happening over in been

[1:13:58] Babcock as well. And then 9%

[1:14:00] down in the first our

[1:14:02] corridor. That's not to say

[1:14:04] it's less desirable. It's just

[1:14:05] there's potential for growth

[1:14:06] down there. There is these

[1:14:10] other areas of the county.

[1:14:11] This, Matthew, this is some

[1:14:12] fuzzy math. But what I'm

[1:14:12] trying get across a general

[1:14:15] point to you, and that is that

[1:14:16] since you've grown by 50,000

[1:14:19] people in 5 years, more parks

[1:14:20] are needed more fire stations.

[1:14:21] I know you have a new fire

[1:14:24] station to be built. Kudos

[1:14:24] just looking at the raw

[1:14:28] numbers. I know more needed. I

[1:14:29] think a call for service

[1:14:31] analysis would greatly help

[1:14:31] understand where and when

[1:14:32] these new fire stations are

[1:14:36] needed. Love to do that for

[1:14:37] you. We also need 3 new

[1:14:37] shopping centers. We know

[1:14:40] Publix has purchased one site

[1:14:41] and and I think we're going to

[1:14:42] see others emerging. Hopefully

[1:14:43] one down a burnt store road in

[1:14:49] the near future. And then when

[1:14:50] population grows, as we know,

[1:14:52] specialist quickly levels of

[1:14:54] service declined. And with

[1:14:55] that comes capital spending in

[1:14:58] planning and so forth. We want

[1:14:59] to make sure we have these

[1:15:00] these shopping centers in

[1:15:01] right place, not just to keep

[1:15:03] sales taxes, but because we

[1:15:04] want to cut down trip. Planks

[1:15:06] of people are driving to

[1:15:06] further congestion. The roads

[1:15:07] we can only widen roads. Much

[1:15:08] going to go broke, trying to

[1:15:11] widen all the roads, just

[1:15:11] accommodate traffic words. We

[1:15:14] can have These facilities,

[1:15:17] shopping centers located

[1:15:17] inappropriate locations. It

[1:15:20] really will cut down on on

[1:15:21] trip traffic. We did that just

[1:15:22] broke what we did an analysis

[1:15:22] last year for Charlotte.

[1:15:25] You're for. Cape Coral. We

[1:15:27] found this one neighborhood of

[1:15:28] the added. It's a promoted to

[1:15:33] neighborhood shopping centers.

[1:15:34] That one there was demand for

[1:15:35] 3, Ted. It is 45,000. And that

[1:15:36] was that the diplomat

[1:15:37] quarters. 45,000 people in a

[1:15:39] court in sports, 3, if they

[1:15:39] just if they promote 2 of

[1:15:43] those being built today, not

[1:15:44] in the future today, they're

[1:15:46] going to save 1.4 million

[1:15:47] miles of driving in by build

[1:15:48] out 4 million miles a year

[1:15:50] every year. Every year. It

[1:15:51] that's 40 cars a year. If use

[1:15:54] the old 100,000 a car, 40 cars

[1:15:55] that won't have to be built to

[1:15:58] make those trips anymore.

[1:15:59] Similar without doing the

[1:16:01] math, I can tell your case is

[1:16:01] similar to we need to make

[1:16:03] sure that there's land set

[1:16:06] aside in outer areas the West.

[1:16:06] Are you pretty much do you

[1:16:07] have some some nice tracks of

[1:16:08] land of that can accommodate

[1:16:12] these larger commercial

[1:16:13] projects? We're concerned.

[1:16:15] It's the mid cluster in the

[1:16:15] northern areas. Not right up

[1:16:17] against necessarily a North

[1:16:20] port, but it probably need to

[1:16:22] a perfect world. We'd be able

[1:16:23] take some lots, an aggregate

[1:16:26] them in in preserve some 6, 7,

[1:16:26] 8, acre sites to have future

[1:16:27] grocery stores and such to

[1:16:30] again, reduce that trips. At a

[1:16:31] quality life, it'll it'll

[1:16:32] it'll make the tax base grow

[1:16:36] and so forth. Table. You've

[1:16:36] seen it before. All the

[1:16:37] numbers are different. I

[1:16:38] promise you. This is saying

[1:16:42] that by 2030, we actually

[1:16:42] absolutely need 3 more

[1:16:43] neighborhood shopping centers

[1:16:46] and much astounding is and

[1:16:47] this gets back to leakage is

[1:16:48] you also need 3 community

[1:16:51] shopping centers. Now those

[1:16:52] are nothing to seize that.

[1:16:54] We're talking about 3 to

[1:16:54] 400,000 Square feet of big box

[1:16:58] said 3 of those you're not

[1:16:59] likely to see those in the

[1:17:01] next 5 years. Even 10 years,

[1:17:02] mostly because the leakage

[1:17:03] it's going on, though there is

[1:17:05] opportunity, especially in the

[1:17:05] Western cluster and has

[1:17:10] Babcock starts building out to

[1:17:11] to have community shopping

[1:17:11] centre facilities in those in

[1:17:15] those areas. If you see

[1:17:16] negative numbers, what that

[1:17:18] means is that areas is

[1:17:19] technically oversupplied like

[1:17:19] p#

[1:17:19] #

[1:17:20] #

[1:17:20] I have 3 neighborhood

[1:17:23] shopping centers, but it can

[1:17:23] really want support 2 and a

[1:17:24] half and the rest of be met by

[1:17:25] this red. The people

[1:17:28] surrounding that area. Here's

[1:17:30] a map. This map is not meant

[1:17:32] beast partial specific. It's

[1:17:35] more to say that the burst our

[1:17:35] corridor. I need a community

[1:17:36] shopping center in a

[1:17:39] neighborhood shopping center.

[1:17:42] Also up in the Mid court made

[1:17:43] cluster. We can see that we

[1:17:44] have a new store called for in

[1:17:47] 30, 40 45 and then over the

[1:17:50] West Cluster no later than

[1:17:51] 2035, we need another

[1:17:52] neighborhood over there that's

[1:17:54] placed on commercial lands and

[1:17:55] actually love to see that

[1:17:55] could be over in the West

[1:17:57] closed that green shopping

[1:17:59] cart. They see that further

[1:18:00] south, actually, because

[1:18:01] that's where the population

[1:18:04] concentration really is. And

[1:18:06] the northern reaches

[1:18:07] Englewood. And you can see as

[1:18:11] at 41 win a road that is 41

[1:18:11] its, what, 7, 7, 6, 7, 7, 6,

[1:18:14] goes East West. We need to get

[1:18:15] for the far enough of that

[1:18:17] area as a Walmart to Publix

[1:18:19] and that airs on despite the

[1:18:19] area south of that, that they

[1:18:22] were concerned about. All

[1:18:23] right. Here's the charter told

[1:18:24] it was going to show you this

[1:18:25] is this is our data. We don't

[1:18:28] download from the Internet.

[1:18:29] And so that's why it's sort of

[1:18:30] limited. Doesn't county around

[1:18:34] you. But we have personally

[1:18:35] mind all of these numbers and

[1:18:36] you can see how they the

[1:18:40] average out around 100 and

[1:18:41] What I think is a useful

[1:18:44] comparison. As you look at

[1:18:47] Sarasota County and in Manatee

[1:18:47] County, those to join each

[1:18:48] other. If you're familiar with

[1:18:50] the Sarasota Mall, that's

[1:18:51] right. On the side the North

[1:18:53] line Sarasota County and

[1:18:54] surely that's why Manatee has

[1:18:55] a lower supply because they

[1:18:57] have 2 or 3 million square

[1:18:58] feet of commercial space. They

[1:19:01] can come enjoy or their spaces

[1:19:02] is to the north. It averages

[1:19:05] out to be 100. That's say

[1:19:08] that. I think you need 70 75

[1:19:11] square feet to be competitive

[1:19:14] and and to be more economic, a

[1:19:14] diverse to with the

[1:19:15] understanding that you can't

[1:19:15] just snap your fingers and

[1:19:17] create square feet of of more

[1:19:24] commercial space. This this

[1:19:26] slide in table are all new and

[1:19:28] it's not meant to be preachy.

[1:19:28] It's really intended for my

[1:19:29] heart to be informative. And

[1:19:31] maybe you already know this

[1:19:33] this cut. This is so this is

[1:19:34] not this year's tax taxable

[1:19:35] values. This is the 24 25 to

[1:19:38] school fiscal year and what

[1:19:39] I'm trying to show you is is

[1:19:41] how you compare against some

[1:19:41] other counties that I think of

[1:19:43] similar demographics to you.

[1:19:47] Similar not the same in terms

[1:19:50] of where they're so their

[1:19:50] taxes 81% of yours comes from

[1:19:53] comes from residential.

[1:19:57] Really? It's 83 Martin 78

[1:19:59] Sarasota. 84 vacant land.

[1:20:01] Mean, we liked vacant land

[1:20:03] that they come in Disney

[1:20:04] services and yet provides

[1:20:05] taxes. So that's that's that's

[1:20:06] a positive. Then we get to

[1:20:09] commercial and we see that

[1:20:10] that that were actually sort

[1:20:11] of falling behind We're a

[1:20:13] little behind when it comes to

[1:20:15] Lee Martin and in Sarasota

[1:20:16] counties. So we'd like to I'd

[1:20:18] like to see that pop up a

[1:20:19] little bit question.

[1:20:20] Commissioner Constance

[1:20:26] recognized? Thank you, sir.

[1:20:27] >> Comm. Constance: I

[1:20:28] understand what you're We go

[1:20:28] back and you're saying we one

[1:20:32] of the lowest. Commercial

[1:20:32] square-foot think of

[1:20:33] harassment. But when you go to

[1:20:36] the sliding, you're showing me

[1:20:43] these percentages. Show me the

[1:20:43] vacancy rates because I don't

[1:20:44] know that that that are

[1:20:45] commercial property is

[1:20:48] completely full. I there's lot

[1:20:49] them. Right. So you're pushing

[1:20:50] for one thing. But then you

[1:20:51] say we need a lot more

[1:20:54] commercial. Many more dust

[1:20:55] robot, maybe agree with you

[1:20:55] because I think whatever we

[1:20:57] have is getting gobbled up.

[1:20:58] But commercial wise, what is

[1:21:03] our vacancy rate for

[1:21:03] commercial?

[1:21:04] >> What's number? So I don't

[1:21:05] know what the vacancy is, but

[1:21:06] what that's telling me from my

[1:21:07] perspective, not arguing

[1:21:08] saying I'm right at my

[1:21:09] perspective is that means it's

[1:21:10] in the wrong location. There's

[1:21:11] too much clustered in this in

[1:21:14] this area here where we needed

[1:21:15] and they did pick up about a

[1:21:15] 3rd of it in any dispersant

[1:21:17] around the county because

[1:21:18] that's where the demands

[1:21:20] originally. This was the core

[1:21:21] population here that beaten

[1:21:22] snout current turned into a

[1:21:24] business center and and I

[1:21:25] couldn't help but notice

[1:21:28] there's a lot of places to eat

[1:21:29] in some businesses, but I

[1:21:29] couldn't get over how many

[1:21:30] places that were to eat along

[1:21:33] that the 41 corridor and I saw

[1:21:38] want to pick a businesses. I

[1:21:39] what used to be neighborhood

[1:21:41] shopping centers and now other

[1:21:42] things. Okay. Not to pick on

[1:21:45] something outside of Bingo

[1:21:45] hall, perhaps things like

[1:21:46] against being like that like

[1:21:50] it real for that. But those

[1:21:53] examples of that are ideal for

[1:21:54] adding multifamily know you're

[1:21:54] icon. Debuts. Got to tell me

[1:21:55] I'm growing like crazy night

[1:21:58] on grow. Some more. Well,

[1:22:00] reason I have vacancies, zone

[1:22:01] of customers in the area. And

[1:22:03] so by bringing in people, I

[1:22:04] have future employees. They

[1:22:05] can live close to where

[1:22:07] they're going to work and easy

[1:22:08] to shop close to transit and

[1:22:11] all those things. I think it's

[1:22:12] what I What you see is

[1:22:13] vacancies. Eye sees

[1:22:15] opportunity to hopefully bring

[1:22:16] in some developers that

[1:22:17] specialize in redevelopment

[1:22:18] with retail not knock down the

[1:22:21] retail, but but remove parts

[1:22:22] of it and add residential uses

[1:22:26] in those places. So you know

[1:22:28] that obviously you're looking

[1:22:28] at us.

[1:22:31] >> a moment in time and every

[1:22:32] time you come back into the

[1:22:35] moment can. But you don't, you

[1:22:35] know, and understand the

[1:22:36] history like some of the

[1:22:37] people to my right who were

[1:22:39] here to watch, you know, a

[1:22:44] shopping center. Be built and

[1:22:45] then a grocery store. Given

[1:22:51] you better. A grocery store.

[1:22:51] Close and the been the whole

[1:22:53] open because across the street

[1:22:58] a Walmart was demolished and a

[1:22:58] huge public says. But I mean,

[1:23:01] so many things have happened

[1:23:02] where you're right. It was

[1:23:03] very concentrated. And then

[1:23:04] things have been repurposed to

[1:23:09] reconstruct it in then those

[1:23:10] former business is very

[1:23:11] successful. Moved even saw

[1:23:12] exactly what you're saying.

[1:23:17] Guess I always look at this.

[1:23:19] Problem because that's what

[1:23:20] this is planning problem. Why

[1:23:23] wasn't this community plan

[1:23:24] better? I really have an issue

[1:23:24] with planners. You know, they

[1:23:26] have they have the title, but

[1:23:27] I just haven't seen them show

[1:23:32] up yet. You know, they they

[1:23:33] seem to, you know, map out an

[1:23:34] area and say, well, this is

[1:23:34] where things are going to go.

[1:23:35] But obviously they don't have

[1:23:36] a crystal ball. But at this

[1:23:41] stage of the game. And I will

[1:23:42] use back as an example. Guess

[1:23:43] what, they're planning that

[1:23:45] community really? Well. They

[1:23:46] know where the commercial

[1:23:47] should be. They know how much

[1:23:50] there should be and the the

[1:23:51] years of experience and

[1:23:53] knowledge are now being

[1:23:57] actually put to to work and it

[1:23:59] is working. But I guess the

[1:23:59] plans that we were working off

[1:24:03] from the 60's. Really not

[1:24:05] thinking about, you know, the

[1:24:06] amount of growth that was

[1:24:07] going to occur are the are the

[1:24:08] streets properly wide enough

[1:24:12] for future growth. And again,

[1:24:15] right where the nodes for

[1:24:15] Beaver communities, every

[1:24:16] single going to be one huge

[1:24:17] thing ever is going to drive

[1:24:19] there. No, it doesn't make any

[1:24:21] sense. You need to have a

[1:24:23] neighborhood facilities. So

[1:24:23] folks can, you know, pretty

[1:24:24] much just a local until they

[1:24:26] need something very special.

[1:24:27] They take special trip or

[1:24:30] they're going for the service

[1:24:32] activity or, you know, go to

[1:24:33] the beach, go someplace where

[1:24:34] they can't get it in their

[1:24:35] backyard. But I fascinating. I

[1:24:41] mean, it really did

[1:24:42] >> So clock has done a very

[1:24:47] good No, no, if ands or buts

[1:24:47] about that. It's one thing,

[1:24:48] though, to design a town that

[1:24:49] you create from scratch,

[1:24:52] right, for for 40,000 people

[1:24:53] for says something that you

[1:24:53] trying to manage for a future

[1:24:56] of 500,000 people and where

[1:24:57] they can make all the

[1:24:57] decisions in they own the

[1:24:58] land. They can do whatever

[1:25:00] they want. You don't. And so

[1:25:02] planners plan, but developers

[1:25:06] develop and and

[1:25:07] >> Comm. Constance: But

[1:25:07] they're planning and

[1:25:08] developing at the same time.

[1:25:08] So they have that opportunity

[1:25:10] and they don't want any

[1:25:10] leakage. They want everything

[1:25:11] to stay with him because

[1:25:13] chances are good that they own

[1:25:14] most of the commercial

[1:25:15] property. They they want to

[1:25:19] keep those. Those revenues

[1:25:20] coming in. So they're making

[1:25:21] sure that people don't ever

[1:25:21] leave Babcock to get

[1:25:25] everything they need right

[1:25:25] there. So I just find it. You

[1:25:26] know, that's kind of how

[1:25:27] things should have been set up

[1:25:29] because you don't want folks

[1:25:33] burning right foot.

[1:25:34] >> Well, and hopefully meant

[1:25:35] that I could just so bad.

[1:25:35] Hoping that actually serves

[1:25:37] community around it, right?

[1:25:38] Hopefully they'll get some

[1:25:38] medical facilities and people

[1:25:39] then we'll have to come all

[1:25:42] the way in. And I can't

[1:25:43] imagine someone staying alive

[1:25:45] on the track from from back

[1:25:46] out all the way here in some

[1:25:46] sort of major emergency. They

[1:25:48] need medical emergency out

[1:25:52] there. That's nothing against

[1:25:53] our public safety officials.

[1:25:54] And But it's just it's so far

[1:25:58] the roads get so congested and

[1:25:58] we just we don't the

[1:25:59] population. But I'm hoping

[1:26:00] that that clock is actually

[1:26:05] center for that whole area to

[1:26:06] serve the that the needs

[1:26:07] because it's an ideal note

[1:26:07] concentration of the

[1:26:11] commercial in population.

[1:26:12] Thank Commissioner Constance.

[1:26:13] Just say we all know the

[1:26:16] history of Charlotte County.

[1:26:17] >> General Development want to

[1:26:18] sell lots. We have hundreds of

[1:26:21] thousands of platted. Lots. It

[1:26:22] was $10 down $10 a month. And

[1:26:26] you buy a lot. And get your

[1:26:27] slice of the Florida sunshine

[1:26:28] in Charlotte County for Blue

[1:26:30] collar worker up north. It's

[1:26:31] not a master-planned community

[1:26:35] like Babcock, you know, which,

[1:26:35] you know, started what, 15

[1:26:37] years ago whenever was 20

[1:26:37] years ago. So, yeah, that's

[1:26:39] that's the reason that Port

[1:26:44] Charlotte was not planned out.

[1:26:45] >> Like Babcock was planned

[1:26:45] out all the new newer

[1:26:46] communities are planned out in

[1:26:47] a look at these things.

[1:26:49] >> Because planning has gotten

[1:26:52] much better since the 1950's

[1:26:52] and 60's and, you know, had to

[1:26:53] use some of those planning

[1:26:55] tools back then. Yeah, we

[1:26:58] probably wouldn't have some of

[1:26:58] these issues like we have with

[1:26:59] the access roads off of 41.

[1:27:01] It's a mess. It's just a

[1:27:05] complete mess. And you know,

[1:27:06] our board and future boards

[1:27:06] are going to have to deal with

[1:27:07] unpacking on winding and

[1:27:08] trying to fix it. And that's

[1:27:10] why we have a future land use

[1:27:11] map. You know that accounts

[1:27:13] for, you know, the changing

[1:27:14] environment, you know, so when

[1:27:16] applications come forward,

[1:27:17] look to the future land use

[1:27:21] map, you know. Because the

[1:27:22] growth is changing and we MAY

[1:27:22] have to change with it in

[1:27:25] terms of those zoning

[1:27:26] decisions. Just like we're

[1:27:26] hearing today, you know, you

[1:27:27] need more commercial here. You

[1:27:28] need more this over there.

[1:27:29] And, you know, we look that

[1:27:31] are comp plan. Commissioner,

[1:27:34] recognized, sir. Thank MR.

[1:27:35] CHAIRMAN. Yeah. So it was

[1:27:36] counties no different than the

[1:27:41] county and was that was over

[1:27:42] there.

[1:27:42] >> He got all of you. The

[1:27:43] state would you got all South

[1:27:44] Gulf Cove. But then you also

[1:27:45] had Capital Corporation came

[1:27:48] into the same thing for

[1:27:49] Rotunda all the outlying areas

[1:27:52] of Rotunda and Cape Haze. But

[1:27:53] that's why it was important

[1:27:56] that we we did the Lamar

[1:27:57] Replatting and the North and

[1:27:57] the South Gulf Cove because

[1:27:59] they made that area a little

[1:28:03] bit easy to get around in.

[1:28:04] It's more of a community so

[1:28:05] that North and South Gulf Cove

[1:28:06] that all got rezoned. So you

[1:28:10] got Harbor Western Harbour

[1:28:10] East right? And that I think

[1:28:11] was a good change. And those

[1:28:12] are things that we need to

[1:28:12] modify to at times when we

[1:28:16] look at people gobbling up

[1:28:17] land and being able to modify

[1:28:18] and maybe make it more

[1:28:19] efficient for us for the

[1:28:21] future. But you look at

[1:28:24] Westport mean Westport was a s

[1:28:26] and I didn't like it that the

[1:28:26] government battle the property

[1:28:27] back then, but we have a

[1:28:28] better outcome today. Hoping

[1:28:31] never do it again. It will

[1:28:32] that that's a great point. So

[1:28:34] we took over 1000 acres of

[1:28:35] land. Will the commission did

[1:28:39] back in 2004? And there was a

[1:28:40] couple of 1000 platted. Lots

[1:28:41] of what do you have now? You

[1:28:42] have commercial notes there.

[1:28:43] There's going to be a Publix.

[1:28:44] They're all those services to

[1:28:47] keep the trips internal.

[1:28:48] >> Comm. Tiseo: And then you

[1:28:49] have a plane community. You

[1:28:49] have, you know, all the

[1:28:50] services they're I think is a

[1:28:52] dog park. There's other things

[1:28:53] there and it's built around

[1:28:56] one of our regional parks. So

[1:28:57] that's an example of good

[1:28:58] planning taken into account

[1:29:00] commercial that's ongoing

[1:29:01] right now. I don't want to say

[1:29:02] it's a mini Babcock, but it's

[1:29:04] got certain elements, you

[1:29:05] know, the same type of

[1:29:08] planning. Thank you,

[1:29:09] Commissioner track stole my

[1:29:10] thunder cause. I was going to

[1:29:13] bring up Westport and that

[1:29:14] that.

[1:29:14] >> And I do that politics of

[1:29:15] buying those like I was

[1:29:16] actually here in 2002, 2003,

[1:29:20] when you lie to the study

[1:29:21] recommending this and that

[1:29:22] that to a lot of hard times,

[1:29:25] the Great Recession and 5

[1:29:26] other things. But it really

[1:29:26] has turned into a vibrant

[1:29:27] area. And I would encourage

[1:29:30] you that that's a very, pretty

[1:29:32] nice new area. But I would are

[1:29:35] you that? Well, it wouldn't be

[1:29:41] Westport. I hit by encouraging

[1:29:43] and someone having intestinal

[1:29:44] fortitude to gather some lots

[1:29:47] around the West area where

[1:29:49] future I'm sorry, the north,

[1:29:50] the military, especially end

[1:29:51] and actually the southern part

[1:29:54] of west to create these these

[1:29:55] commercial centers. I'm not

[1:29:55] bragging. I think it's a it's

[1:29:58] your job. Your the government,

[1:29:59] but we should be encouraging

[1:30:01] someone to do the aggregation.

[1:30:02] The if you do this, you're

[1:30:03] likely to get commercial uses

[1:30:03] the things these people need

[1:30:04] to hear to cut down on on

[1:30:07] trips and so forth so we can

[1:30:09] improve our planning, if you

[1:30:11] will. I know it's frustrating.

[1:30:11] Say why wasn't done right to

[1:30:15] begin with others? A lot of

[1:30:16] competing interests. We also

[1:30:17] don't know the land like but

[1:30:17] only developer doesn't have

[1:30:20] full control over things. It's

[1:30:21] a challenge and I'm just glad

[1:30:22] that, you know, we have a

[1:30:27] board that recognizes that and

[1:30:28] is open to ideas because it's

[1:30:29] exciting. Some of the things

[1:30:31] 15 happen here. I would like

[1:30:35] to see you at least consider

[1:30:37] the idea of the adding some

[1:30:37] multifamily to some of your

[1:30:38] larger commercial centers.

[1:30:39] That MAY be are doing so well

[1:30:41] in and it's not your fault

[1:30:42] that that the units haven't

[1:30:44] gone over at the mall. I'm

[1:30:45] dying for that to happen when

[1:30:48] those first 300 units going,

[1:30:50] it won't happen overnight. But

[1:30:51] when get in a couple of years,

[1:30:51] the area will just the whole

[1:30:52] feeling will start to change

[1:30:57] and you'll have this

[1:30:58] synergistic redevelopment I'm

[1:31:01] just itching waiting for that

[1:31:02] to happen. We have plans

[1:31:03] outside of that thing. We

[1:31:04] think you're going to see

[1:31:06] actually a grocery store show

[1:31:07] up in there. At some point it

[1:31:07] might only be in all. These

[1:31:09] are something we think that

[1:31:10] that could be a very important

[1:31:14] hub over there.

[1:31:14] >> Comm. Tiseo: Look, this

[1:31:15] this board approved compact

[1:31:16] growth mixed use. You know, we

[1:31:18] went out and we made the

[1:31:20] changes. We work with economic

[1:31:21] development. We work with

[1:31:22] staff to look at those things.

[1:31:23] It's up to the free market to

[1:31:27] take advantage of it. We don't

[1:31:27] have control. We can set the

[1:31:28] table which I think we did.

[1:31:30] But the free markets have to

[1:31:31] the applicant and do that. We

[1:31:32] can't. As you said earlier, we

[1:31:36] can't make the markets spend

[1:31:36] their money right. And I read

[1:31:41] and then Fortune article last

[1:31:41] night that multi-faith

[1:31:42] vacancies are hitting new high

[1:31:44] for this whole area in General

[1:31:49] Naples made up some sort of

[1:31:50] national.

[1:31:51] >> top 10 list of places that

[1:31:53] had higher vacancies. And in

[1:31:54] Fort Myers, City of Fort Myers

[1:31:55] did as well. So it's not gonna

[1:31:59] happen tomorrow, but I think

[1:32:00] in next 4 or 5 years, it's a

[1:32:01] real possibility. We could we

[1:32:02] could see renewed activity at

[1:32:05] that. But that location

[1:32:06] hopefully sooner hopefully

[1:32:07] we'll historically the markets

[1:32:07] are cyclical. We know that. So

[1:32:10] we're gonna have our ups and

[1:32:12] downs, right? But both now

[1:32:13] being title in someplace.

[1:32:13] Hopefully the title as sun set

[1:32:15] out on this because we want to

[1:32:16] see that item c for 500. You

[1:32:19] show up at that mall. Back to

[1:32:23] this. This chart here just for

[1:32:23] a second. So we'll the

[1:32:24] industrial with a lower tier

[1:32:25] of Lee and Martin have 3% of

[1:32:27] development or there taxes

[1:32:29] coming from industrial love to

[1:32:32] see more of that again. I know

[1:32:36] you Your kings can't control

[1:32:36] everything but it given the

[1:32:39] opportunity. Let's let's

[1:32:40] promote more industrial and

[1:32:41] commercial. Not just

[1:32:41] commercial commercial say, but

[1:32:44] in the right places and

[1:32:45] employment centers. Of course,

[1:32:49] you want to promote those. So

[1:32:51] again, a clean, we think going

[1:32:51] to see another million square

[1:32:52] feet of industrial show up,

[1:32:56] which is a real positive what

[1:32:58] rhymes with amendment 3 as

[1:33:01] amendment 3 South Amendment 3

[1:33:03] passes. Commercial industrial

[1:33:06] properties are going to even

[1:33:07] more valuable. That's where

[1:33:08] more of they'll tax base can

[1:33:13] come from. With all this said

[1:33:14] you could your ratio right

[1:33:15] now. And the beginning had of

[1:33:18] myself is 30 square feet per

[1:33:20] capita, again of the much

[1:33:21] lower you're only one square

[1:33:22] foot away from Collier. But

[1:33:23] Collier is not exactly known

[1:33:25] for wanting to do a lot of

[1:33:26] industrial space with us

[1:33:27] having this really nice

[1:33:29] airport right here. I think

[1:33:30] it's a it's a jewel. We can

[1:33:31] really, you know, it's our

[1:33:34] anchor sites let's build

[1:33:34] around it and build it up so

[1:33:37] that it can be a The close

[1:33:40] proximity to 75 in moving

[1:33:42] freight. They're all all

[1:33:43] wonderful things with that

[1:33:45] said the sea, you have even

[1:33:46] more land. That's it's light

[1:33:49] about 3 from think MR.

[1:33:50] Johnson, a quick yeah. This

[1:33:51] industry slide where it says

[1:33:51] what you think the man is

[1:33:56] going to be.

[1:33:56] >> Comm. Constance: You're

[1:33:57] giving me the numerator.

[1:33:58] What's the denominator? What's

[1:33:58] the current amount of acreage

[1:34:02] in each one of these zones?

[1:34:07] >> There's had that column. I

[1:34:09] I'll get that to you. Is a get

[1:34:10] them you have it. So you have

[1:34:11] about 7 million, I think,

[1:34:15] square feet. If you recall so

[1:34:16] 7.8 million or something, I

[1:34:17] think 7.8 million square feet,

[1:34:18] Just in other words, you just

[1:34:21] you giving us the acreage that

[1:34:22] would be demanded. You can

[1:34:24] just get us. What is the

[1:34:25] current I mean, some of them

[1:34:26] might be over. My some of

[1:34:26] them. Maybe wait well above

[1:34:29] the current level.

[1:34:30] >> But in future, it won't be

[1:34:32] in right per capita But the

[1:34:33] industry is completed. The

[1:34:34] airport has way more

[1:34:35] industrial on a per capita

[1:34:37] basis. But it's not about

[1:34:38] people that's more about

[1:34:40] employment and stars. You

[1:34:41] categorize inverted ports as

[1:34:44] commercial or industrial.

[1:34:49] >> we don't have those yet.

[1:34:49] So.

[1:34:50] >> I get that. But if there's

[1:34:51] a demand for with deputy

[1:34:52] categorizes can Tecnico 20 in

[1:34:53] that in the department these

[1:34:54] codes for airports of such as

[1:34:57] an industrial

[1:34:57] >> So that I could understand

[1:35:00] and those those will be

[1:35:00] popping up wherever it's

[1:35:01] logistically possible without

[1:35:05] power lines. But they can be

[1:35:06] almost anywhere. And this is

[1:35:07] not me say this. Reporting the

[1:35:08] facts don't shoot the

[1:35:09] messenger, but technically

[1:35:11] many stories also industrial,

[1:35:12] if you because it's a place

[1:35:17] where warehousing. Okay. Thank

[1:35:20] you

[1:35:25] >> okay. This this good graph

[1:35:25] is not mine

[1:35:26] >> Jordan over an economic

[1:35:26] development. Don't really help

[1:35:28] to develop this for me for

[1:35:29] this presentation. It is

[1:35:31] updated. The numbers are

[1:35:32] slightly different. We note

[1:35:34] that the top in the green

[1:35:35] industry be 2% of our of of

[1:35:40] our employment base it you've

[1:35:41] heard battle of some brand not

[1:35:41] not being paid and not wearing

[1:35:43] a t-shirt and hear that. All

[1:35:46] right. Get sponsorship or

[1:35:47] anything. But Cheney brothers,

[1:35:48] we but we want to see more of

[1:35:50] that type of of of

[1:35:51] development. You know, there's

[1:35:55] 550 jobs over there. And if I

[1:35:56] skip ahead, we get into

[1:35:56] multipliers and something with

[1:35:57] a site for the jobs they bring

[1:36:01] in almost another 1000 jobs in

[1:36:02] terms of and if all the way

[1:36:04] from your teller, 2 waitresses

[1:36:05] to your car, mechanics of that

[1:36:08] people do ac carpet stores and

[1:36:11] all those things. So we want

[1:36:12] to see more of that type of

[1:36:15] developing around the airport

[1:36:16] and what's great about she is

[1:36:17] it really doesn't depend on

[1:36:19] how your local economy's

[1:36:19] doing. They're selling ketchup

[1:36:20] and mustard napkins all over

[1:36:21] southwest Florida. And so

[1:36:24] you're benefiting and all

[1:36:25] those dollars foreign from

[1:36:28] wages come back here and then

[1:36:28] it spent looking the economy.

[1:36:30] Want more of that going on.

[1:36:35] Commissioner checks? 2

[1:36:35] appointed.

[1:36:36] >> Comm. Truex: The public's

[1:36:36] has a piece of property out

[1:36:40] there as well. Yes, and so,

[1:36:41] you know, the number of Publix

[1:36:42] stores that are going to be

[1:36:43] built both in Westport First

[1:36:44] or road. The regional one

[1:36:47] Inglewood right now making it

[1:36:48] much larger, much more, you

[1:36:52] know, updated facility. Might

[1:36:52] make sense for them to start

[1:36:55] looking at actually building a

[1:36:55] facility because it's in the

[1:36:56] middle of so many stores. Now,

[1:36:58] not just Charlotte County,

[1:36:59] obviously, but for their

[1:37:00] future. So I could see them

[1:37:04] doing that next 5

[1:37:05] >> But got one of the creek

[1:37:06] don't rise. I mean, they they

[1:37:07] want they buy 25 years ago. It

[1:37:10] was a long time was a major

[1:37:10] capital investment. They made

[1:37:11] very bright, though, to being

[1:37:14] at the airport in a good

[1:37:15] location. That company really

[1:37:16] thinks forward. I really

[1:37:17] respect him for that. But I

[1:37:19] also but okay, 3rd is nice,

[1:37:20] but let's get some building in

[1:37:21] some jobs going on here, too.

[1:37:22] And, you know, with all the

[1:37:24] new store is going in and

[1:37:25] Charlotte Lee and Collier

[1:37:26] counties, this of make an

[1:37:31] excellent location for to

[1:37:31] locate that. And since that

[1:37:32] work in all 3 jurisdictions

[1:37:34] for the Mpo is if you guys

[1:37:35] would like to store demands, I

[1:37:36] can provide those to you. If

[1:37:38] you want to market the Publix.

[1:37:43] Free of here's a breakdown

[1:37:46] actually from last year of

[1:37:48] what's what you it. So it does

[1:37:51] can be sort of a hard sell an

[1:37:54] average year about 28300,000

[1:37:55] acre, as you know, most houses

[1:37:56] are assessed and that you have

[1:37:59] more of those per acre. But

[1:37:59] the difference is that people

[1:38:02] need things in industrial

[1:38:02] commercial generally don't

[1:38:06] need a lot of services. And so

[1:38:07] we get back to this. Fiscal

[1:38:10] issues and fiscal neutrality,

[1:38:11] both commercial industry that

[1:38:12] really the keys to that. And

[1:38:13] there's a bullet point right

[1:38:16] above the table that the

[1:38:18] industrial and generate some

[1:38:19] 1000 times, the revenue of ag

[1:38:19] land. And so some of that, I'd

[1:38:20] like to see some of the ag

[1:38:23] land around the airport area

[1:38:27] converted to industrial uses.

[1:38:28] So here is not a bill similar

[1:38:29] to the commercial shows you at

[1:38:31] 30 square foot on a per capita

[1:38:32] basis. Then you compare to

[1:38:34] look at these others and that

[1:38:35] this doesn't happen overnight.

[1:38:37] You don't snap your fingers,

[1:38:38] but there is absolutely room

[1:38:40] for you. Do it for you to grow

[1:38:43] your intensity. If Michael,

[1:38:45] for you would be 55 and I'm

[1:38:47] one of those of those mindsets

[1:38:49] that we do have to reach 55 to

[1:38:51] be successful, I think reach

[1:38:52] for 55 if we hit 45, which is

[1:38:55] 50% more per cap. And you have

[1:38:56] now, I still think that's a

[1:38:58] home run in terms of tax base,

[1:38:58] jobs, all the things come with

[1:39:04] that. If you wanted to reach

[1:39:06] 55 to 45. So in 45 you need

[1:39:07] another about 450 acres. In

[1:39:08] addition to what you have now,

[1:39:11] that zone industrial to make

[1:39:12] that happen in minutes, all

[1:39:17] developed and such and again,

[1:39:18] I recognize you have probably

[1:39:20] a lot of petitions asking for

[1:39:21] different things. You are the

[1:39:22] ones that the balance, the

[1:39:23] competing interests. I'm just

[1:39:26] looking at the numbers and

[1:39:27] saying will made no political

[1:39:28] difference. I'd love to see

[1:39:30] more industrial lands.

[1:39:31] Commissioner Constance and

[1:39:37] this is have you. So in the

[1:39:38] northern part cap, but there's

[1:39:39] quite a bit of wetlands. And

[1:39:43] so that sort of degrades the

[1:39:45] the utility in the usability

[1:39:45] of the land makes it more

[1:39:46] difficult to to build around

[1:39:49] so forth. South south of the

[1:39:49] airport is some pretty

[1:39:53] gorgeous stuff. It's it's

[1:39:54] disturbed if you will. So it's

[1:39:57] easier to permit news.

[1:39:58] >> And I think it's it is

[1:40:05] >> You're my It is already

[1:40:05] leading self into the Jones

[1:40:06] Loop area which is part of the

[1:40:09] cap, but proximate to it that

[1:40:11] I think more will see some

[1:40:12] more conversion. Right? And I

[1:40:13] think you're already doing

[1:40:13] this, but I would be remiss if

[1:40:17] I didn't say so when we have

[1:40:18] more industry happens down

[1:40:19] there normally and get talked

[1:40:24] about planner, In the 60's.

[1:40:25] The rules were thou shalt not

[1:40:26] have commercial industrial

[1:40:26] anywhere near people that have

[1:40:27] those who said because those

[1:40:28] are those are incompatible

[1:40:29] uses. And I get with that.

[1:40:32] That theory came from. But

[1:40:32] then the problems that we

[1:40:36] have, driving in between that

[1:40:36] and so where where it's

[1:40:37] appropriate were can be

[1:40:39] designed, right? I'd love to

[1:40:40] see some multifamily Putin

[1:40:41] with some of that in the

[1:40:42] industrial so that we don't

[1:40:43] have the workers driving long

[1:40:44] distances that they don't have

[1:40:45] to, especially with Walmart in

[1:40:46] it.

[1:40:50] >> Tell you.

[1:40:50] >> Walmart, Publix, all these

[1:40:51] and a whole bunch of can name

[1:40:54] of the stores. Just saw him

[1:40:55] online to polio. That's

[1:40:59] wonderful place to live. Now

[1:41:00] and to be great that more

[1:41:01] people living there that can

[1:41:02] take advantage and patronize

[1:41:05] those businesses. Just more

[1:41:09] talking about it. As increase

[1:41:11] the industry allocation, we

[1:41:12] could be more competitive with

[1:41:13] each other. These other

[1:41:13] counties without naming

[1:41:17] counties. But it sounds like

[1:41:18] that think those 2 other ones,

[1:41:19] they have a lot of wetland

[1:41:20] issues on their lands, a very

[1:41:23] familiar with their with their

[1:41:23] entitlements are not entitled,

[1:41:25] let's but their allocations of

[1:41:26] industrial lands. You guys

[1:41:29] have some of the best. Land

[1:41:31] available for communities on

[1:41:35] industrial now, but for

[1:41:36] industrial uses, it's it's

[1:41:37] it's brittle, barely permit.

[1:41:41] W's will close to 75 northward

[1:41:42] is also close to 75. But it's

[1:41:43] it's it's intensely. What if

[1:41:46] you look at it not being well

[1:41:48] as scientists, but you can see

[1:41:50] from the aerial that did the

[1:41:53] trees. There are likely well

[1:41:54] into nature. The last slide

[1:41:56] here. But results I just that

[1:41:57] the p#

[1:41:57] #

[1:41:58] Gorda know, you know

[1:42:00] this, I will ask that you guys

[1:42:01] have. And let's let's build on

[1:42:03] that because it really is like

[1:42:04] Sears used to be don't. All

[1:42:07] right. The big the anchor and

[1:42:08] we can build around that and

[1:42:09] in amount of employment that

[1:42:09] we can be created is just

[1:42:16] enormous. Last last 2 slides

[1:42:17] here. So just to repeat. So

[1:42:19] you've had 26,000 housing

[1:42:20] units and 50,000 new residents

[1:42:24] show up since the census with

[1:42:25] that has come a declaration in

[1:42:30] and lows of service no, it

[1:42:31] doesn't hit a good time,

[1:42:32] especially looking at how

[1:42:34] attacks of us might change and

[1:42:37] such. It's important, though,

[1:42:37] to value, especially our

[1:42:38] public safety are our sheriff

[1:42:41] in our our our fire

[1:42:42] departments, ems, and making

[1:42:42] sure they have the right play

[1:42:45] the right facilities in right

[1:42:46] locations allow them to do

[1:42:47] their jobs and reach reach the

[1:42:48] people in a program out of

[1:42:52] time. We want to monitor so

[1:42:53] the aggregate amount of

[1:42:54] commercial. So the agger

[1:42:58] amount of commercial is is one

[1:42:59] thing. But especially want to

[1:43:00] make sure it's in the right

[1:43:01] place. That's when Santa than

[1:43:02] in the northern part humid

[1:43:03] cluster in the southern part

[1:43:05] of your West Cluster, that

[1:43:09] caucus taken care of itself.

[1:43:10] We'd like to see more

[1:43:11] commercial and only like one

[1:43:11] acre lots. 51 acre. Lots is

[1:43:14] not the same thing is even 20

[1:43:15] acres of developable land. We

[1:43:16] can locate some of these

[1:43:20] services. Planning shopping

[1:43:22] centers by locations. Please

[1:43:24] use that map in in your when

[1:43:27] you're looking at to

[1:43:28] deliberating whether approve a

[1:43:28] project. Not that map again,

[1:43:29] some parcels specific, but it

[1:43:30] shows you where those where

[1:43:30] those facilities are needed.

[1:43:34] And it's also critical to

[1:43:37] reserve land for our future.

[1:43:37] Sheriff sub stations, fire

[1:43:39] stations, parks, those sorts

[1:43:40] of things. I know we've heard

[1:43:41] from of libraries and parks

[1:43:44] and their master plans and and

[1:43:45] and more lands are needed for

[1:43:47] them, at least reservation, if

[1:43:51] not, if not plan, purchase.

[1:43:52] Hears just same for the 3rd

[1:43:56] time. Guy Committee consider

[1:43:57] policy change. That would add

[1:43:58] some density to some of these

[1:43:59] older commercial facilities

[1:44:00] that are tired, maybe have

[1:44:01] space is not needed in

[1:44:02] location where they were

[1:44:03] greatly needed in that

[1:44:04] whenever they were built.

[1:44:06] Today's a different day. Now

[1:44:07] we need when we have

[1:44:07] dilapidated commercial

[1:44:09] commercial, it's not

[1:44:10] economically viable. It's

[1:44:12] because number of people put

[1:44:14] more people in that area, it's

[1:44:14] helps balance that that whole

[1:44:17] equation now. Updating this

[1:44:18] model is is I believe helpful.

[1:44:19] Do you guys you guys in the in

[1:44:23] the in given session probably

[1:44:25] make between 10, 15 million

[1:44:26] dollars with the decisions in

[1:44:27] this I believe is it is

[1:44:28] helpful to make just one right

[1:44:32] decision from it. It pays for

[1:44:35] itself. With that, I'm going

[1:44:36] to go off the rails for just a

[1:44:38] second to last year we able to

[1:44:39] successfully challenge Beaver.

[1:44:41] One beaver came out your your

[1:44:43] population number. We were

[1:44:44] able to conclusively show the

[1:44:45] state revise their data to our

[1:44:47] number that we are able to

[1:44:50] prove. I believe that I can't

[1:44:51] prove that, but talking

[1:44:52] finance people. I think that

[1:44:53] that it's somewhere between 3

[1:44:55] 500,000 permit revenue per

[1:44:57] year. But by by winning that

[1:44:59] argument, having updated data,

[1:45:00] we are cocked and loaded ready

[1:45:00] for when the letter comes in

[1:45:03] next 10 days to see them and

[1:45:04] maybe nothing's needed. But we

[1:45:06] are ready to support you and

[1:45:07] make sure you get your fair

[1:45:10] share. Don't worry, sir, your

[1:45:14] contract still in place. See

[1:45:16] where you're going there.

[1:45:16] Well, the uk for ourselves,

[1:45:19] but our data is Craig. The

[1:45:20] date is credible. The state

[1:45:21] didn't roll over. That was a

[1:45:21] whole bunch of e-mails. Ben

[1:45:26] can tell I do want to say that

[1:45:27] I love what I do for a living

[1:45:28] I think appreciate you. I

[1:45:29] would not have a job without

[1:45:32] you and I'm sincerely grateful

[1:45:33] any other questions. I'm happy

[1:45:34] to answer any questions.

[1:45:38] Farmer.

[1:45:39] Constance. Yeah, I just want

[1:45:39] pick up things. So you're

[1:45:43] 2030, data point. We're

[1:45:46] getting closer. So how?

[1:45:47] Confident are you in that?

[1:45:51] Because that's still

[1:45:52] predictive. I mean, the slow

[1:45:53] could go go a little. Go back

[1:45:59] to the dots. The coupon.

[1:46:04] >> land right.

[1:46:04] >> So first blue dot is the

[1:46:09] current is that the current

[1:46:10] data?

[1:46:12] >> No, for get it was because

[1:46:14] that's before I guess it looks

[1:46:15] like get this So you're you're

[1:46:16] saying you think things are

[1:46:16] going to slow down by

[1:46:20] twenty-thirty? What if they

[1:46:21] don't?

[1:46:21] >> What if you have a of a

[1:46:22] similar s#

[1:46:22] #

[1:46:22] and you come

[1:46:25] back to us in 2 years ago,

[1:46:26] guys, we we tried to stay

[1:46:26] conservative and we goofed

[1:46:29] again. And actually it's it's

[1:46:32] still creep. So that's a

[1:46:33] possibility. Not only a

[1:46:34] possibility, please don't fire

[1:46:38] me.

[1:46:39] >> But I will tell you that we

[1:46:39] did not use. Are we do not

[1:46:40] take Dotson, rulers and

[1:46:44] pencils and draw a straight

[1:46:44] line. So Europe, he permitting

[1:46:45] it was around. 5500 units i

[1:46:48] think was something like that.

[1:46:49] You're down in the 30 to 3300

[1:46:53] units per year. When I went

[1:46:54] back, we don't use that to

[1:46:55] build the models but went

[1:46:56] back, went back and took the

[1:46:59] housing units and did the

[1:47:00] math. We are. We are right at

[1:47:01] the your current level of

[1:47:02] permitting. So if you're

[1:47:03] permitting, happens to go up

[1:47:03] from here, yeah, numbers are

[1:47:06] going to be low. What I wanted

[1:47:07] to was expected to go the

[1:47:10] direction you want. Most

[1:47:11] people are like, oh, you could

[1:47:12] that that there's nowhere near

[1:47:13] that number going to show up.

[1:47:14] And I'm like, I'm positive.

[1:47:15] That's not people. They're

[1:47:16] going to show short of some

[1:47:17] major major recession popping

[1:47:19] out of nowhere. This is like a

[1:47:20] minimum. And to your point,

[1:47:23] sir, yes. 20,000 more people

[1:47:26] could show up. Will they? I

[1:47:28] don't know. I think that when

[1:47:28] I look at all of your

[1:47:30] permitting over the last 30

[1:47:31] years, I look back at the

[1:47:34] Great Recession. My stomach

[1:47:35] gets upset and I look at, you

[1:47:36] know, permitting for 5 pounds

[1:47:37] a year compared to permit and

[1:47:42] 5,000 a year I still I still

[1:47:43] think you're I think you're in

[1:47:44] a linear phase of about 3,3500

[1:47:47] permits a year what will

[1:47:48] change is when Westport builds

[1:47:50] out and inland Babcock. I

[1:47:51] think by that time the fire

[1:47:54] will have caught and your your

[1:47:57] your your platted lots will

[1:47:59] then maintain that velocity

[1:48:01] for years to come. Move ahead

[1:48:01] to 2, 3, sides of the bar

[1:48:02] charts for the housing and

[1:48:03] then the population. The

[1:48:06] portraits. Yeah. Ahead.

[1:48:10] >> Forward forward forward

[1:48:11] yet. So what you know, you

[1:48:14] said Babcock You have

[1:48:15] increased that you have more

[1:48:18] people in the housing units.

[1:48:18] Same thing with Mid County,

[1:48:19] West County, not so much you

[1:48:24] mentioned, but all that Mid

[1:48:25] County, the West Ports and the

[1:48:26] backpack. There's a very

[1:48:26] there's a real similarity

[1:48:27] because both of them, when you

[1:48:29] see those housing units on the

[1:48:30] next slide, the population

[1:48:31] jumps up for both of those and

[1:48:34] everything else is down. So

[1:48:35] that was interesting that

[1:48:37] that, again, there's more

[1:48:38] people per unit. Is that what

[1:48:39] you're saying? So so this

[1:48:41] because the multifamily or I

[1:48:42] don't. I think I think it's

[1:48:45] more families, not not not

[1:48:45] single or multi family, but

[1:48:46] the but the character of who's

[1:48:47] choosing to live there. And I

[1:48:48] think that clock in mid

[1:48:49] >> Comm. Constance: are

[1:48:54] attracting more families West.

[1:48:55] You look at the areas, it

[1:48:56] looks like their families as

[1:48:57] we see plate. We deeper

[1:48:58] looking people's are looking

[1:48:59] at swing sets. We want to see

[1:49:03] living there right? And so I'm

[1:49:04] surprised by the sense

[1:49:05] demographics are actually

[1:49:09] lower than what it might look

[1:49:10] like. And we are relying on

[1:49:11] census data demographics

[1:49:12] Babcock. We actually get that

[1:49:14] directly from the developer

[1:49:17] from their internal surveys.

[1:49:18] Next slide, those barrier

[1:49:23] island that's could it be that

[1:49:24] those are cook? Those are new

[1:49:25] construction, but could be

[1:49:25] that those houses were

[1:49:26] completely wiped out. And now

[1:49:27] you're building a brand new

[1:49:31] house on a wiped out live.

[1:49:32] >> Absolutely. Not review the

[1:49:33] demo permits. Your apps are

[1:49:33] you absolutely correct. In

[1:49:40] this happening there

[1:49:40] >> Comm. Constance: and then,

[1:49:41] you know, with burnt store

[1:49:42] road, not having enough

[1:49:43] commercial. Remember know if

[1:49:43] we've mentioned this before,

[1:49:44] but a bunch of commercial was

[1:49:46] repurposed as storm water. For

[1:49:49] the road to go And we had a

[1:49:50] very heated conversation in

[1:49:53] these chambers with zoning and

[1:49:54] planning to try to figure out

[1:49:56] why was that done? I never

[1:49:57] think I thought that never

[1:49:57] should have been done. I think

[1:50:00] that never should have been

[1:50:01] allowed. Those areas were set

[1:50:02] up for commercial if they

[1:50:04] wanted to find storm water,

[1:50:05] they needed to find something

[1:50:06] else. But we so now what's

[1:50:07] happening is we're having to

[1:50:10] repurpose residential back to

[1:50:11] commercial. It's crazy, but

[1:50:14] that that that's the situation

[1:50:15] that we're you're, you know,

[1:50:15] that's what you're pointing to

[1:50:17] for the future. It would. Now

[1:50:18] you have a believe 2 parcels

[1:50:20] are 2 groups of parcels down

[1:50:21] there now that there's a newer

[1:50:22] one, I think that was just

[1:50:22] approved for think is that

[1:50:26] 180,000 or something like

[1:50:26] that?

[1:50:27] >> Comm. Constance: And so now

[1:50:27] you you. I think you have the

[1:50:28] lands available now. It's more

[1:50:29] about the developers in the

[1:50:31] money, the financing, getting

[1:50:32] that in and maybe some, but

[1:50:32] they're waiting for us see

[1:50:36] just how those 3 projects are

[1:50:36] progressing. But certainly

[1:50:37] we're going to see more

[1:50:38] commercial down that way. I

[1:50:41] can't speak to why commercial

[1:50:42] and was and maybe that was dot

[1:50:49] and you know, you owe that But

[1:50:49] so then just if you could get

[1:50:50] back to us with commercial

[1:50:51] vacancy rates and industrial

[1:50:55] vacancy rates just so we can

[1:50:56] understand.

[1:50:57] >> I don't really have the

[1:50:57] vacancy rates on that. I have

[1:50:58] that amount of commercial

[1:51:01] square footage and acres. I

[1:51:01] don't have the guts. Isn't

[1:51:02] Doesn't that come into your

[1:51:04] calculus? You say we're we're

[1:51:05] short. But then if the vacancy

[1:51:08] rates are high, then where are

[1:51:09] we?

[1:51:09] >> Well, they can me points

[1:51:12] about the use is not

[1:51:13] necessarily space. All right.

[1:51:14] You see few scenes left data

[1:51:15] places see a different region.

[1:51:17] A move in southern place comes

[1:51:18] to life. Trader Joe's located

[1:51:22] in one of the year blazes that

[1:51:23] was unsuccessful. I guarantee

[1:51:23] that we can on new magnet

[1:51:24] because people want my final

[1:51:27] question is how much?

[1:51:32] >> Are you seeing businesses?

[1:51:33] >> Comm. Constance: Trying to

[1:51:34] build workforce housing on

[1:51:34] their property because I've

[1:51:36] always felt that's the future.

[1:51:37] Are the embracing that?

[1:51:40] Because you brought it up a

[1:51:41] little bit. But for me, it

[1:51:41] makes the most sense that you

[1:51:44] buy 50% more land than you

[1:51:45] think you're going to need for

[1:51:46] your use. And you put in some

[1:51:49] multifamily units for your

[1:51:50] work force. And it's part of

[1:51:51] the package deal. And, you

[1:51:53] know, you can attract folks

[1:51:54] that you can pay them a decent

[1:51:57] wage and not worry about

[1:51:58] commute, not worried about

[1:51:59] them having affordability of

[1:52:00] love to work for you, but i

[1:52:03] can't find place to live.

[1:52:04] >> The 2 groups have seen do

[1:52:05] that for better or worse. Our

[1:52:08] hospitals, healthcare and

[1:52:08] school districts. I'd like see

[1:52:12] more of that. Don. I also

[1:52:13] learned when we see affordable

[1:52:14] housing is only for for 30

[1:52:15] years and like the magic. The

[1:52:16] problem goes away, which it

[1:52:16] doesn't. That's a definition

[1:52:21] for different day. As always.

[1:52:22] Thank you for your time.

[1:52:23] You're not a decision to

[1:52:23] Probably one of the most

[1:52:27] important updates we get is

[1:52:27] Welp you know, floodplain

[1:52:28] better. I think it's important

[1:52:29] to keep the regular updates

[1:52:30] coming so we can keep looking

[1:52:30] for the little things along

[1:52:31] the way. The for become big

[1:52:34] things. Thank you. Thank you,

[1:52:35] Director. Thank you. Do that

[1:52:35] as well. Thank you. Again,

[1:52:38] these are always they're

[1:52:39] enjoyable to go I know for

[1:52:43] some people it MAY be mundane.

[1:52:44] >> Comm. Truex: But like you,

[1:52:44] I love getting into data and I

[1:52:45] find fascinating. And then

[1:52:46] also really does help this

[1:52:47] board with the futures. How we

[1:52:48] continue to change and modify

[1:52:50] for what's coming. So thank

[1:52:55] you, c 2, thank you all very

[1:52:55] much. Yeah, thanks for the

[1:52:56] information. Commissioner

[1:52:57] Constance, I would say whoever

[1:52:57] was on the board during that

[1:53:01] burnt store.

[1:53:02] >> Comm. Tiseo: Land

[1:53:02] acquisition. The board approve

[1:53:03] those purchases. Weather was

[1:53:04] to eminent domain if the board

[1:53:06] didn't want to use that

[1:53:07] particular property for storm

[1:53:08] water, they should have just.

[1:53:11] Denied the purchase. Not

[1:53:13] really. I wasn't here back

[1:53:15] then. But you know, if the

[1:53:19] complaint is the county used

[1:53:19] commercial property for storm

[1:53:21] water. I mean, the board

[1:53:22] approved it doesn't happen in

[1:53:22] a vacuum. So again, I wasn't

[1:53:27] here back then and again,

[1:53:28] thank you the information as

[1:53:29] it is a great planning tool.

[1:53:29] And I would point to our most

[1:53:33] recent budget hearing. Where

[1:53:35] we have our budget divided up

[1:53:38] into 2 big parts operating

[1:53:41] capital. And you can see the

[1:53:42] Capitol part is increasing to

[1:53:44] reflect those infrastructure

[1:53:44] requirements that you're kind

[1:53:45] of talking about in this. I

[1:53:47] think the board recognizes

[1:53:49] that as well you know, going

[1:53:52] for, you know, 20 year sales

[1:53:52] tax period this time. And

[1:53:56] we've we've loaded it with

[1:53:58] items from our cna Capital

[1:53:59] needs assessment to make sure

[1:54:00] we're addressing those things

[1:54:03] for the long term so that that

[1:54:04] was one of the things that

[1:54:06] we're doing as a board

[1:54:07] commissioned or you're

[1:54:07] recognized, sir, they mature.

[1:54:11] And again, thank you very

[1:54:11] much, sir.

[1:54:12] >> keen eye on our building

[1:54:13] permits and CEOs they serve,

[1:54:17] you know, See if shift in

[1:54:18] prevent, you know, because

[1:54:18] that I think that's the data.

[1:54:19] I look at our report. We get

[1:54:21] from community development

[1:54:21] every month. It's hanging

[1:54:24] right in it over 200 CEOs per

[1:54:26] month. That's pretty

[1:54:28] astounding. Yeah, regionally

[1:54:33] speaking, I think pretty.

[1:54:33] >> you're headed to that

[1:54:34] point, like a good quick shed,

[1:54:37] a tear prince. She has been a

[1:54:39] huge asset to us and in

[1:54:40] providing data is very, very

[1:54:41] do our job. She just she, you

[1:54:44] know, has me on Saturday

[1:54:45] Sunday. She's she's a Prince.

[1:54:46] Thank you very much. Thank for

[1:54:50] the comment on the sites are

[1:54:51] MR. Khan Mr, CHAIRMAN On the

[1:54:52] But could we go? Yeah, public

[1:54:52] hearing and yes, I was going

[1:54:53] to say that next. Ok? Thank

[1:54:58] you, sir. Thank you.

[1:54:58] >> Comm. Tiseo: There's no

[1:54:59] objection from the board. I

[1:55:00] wanted to dispense with it too

[1:55:01] adventhealth bond issue. We

[1:55:02] have represent representative

[1:55:04] to the hospital that have been

[1:55:04] here. There's no objection.

[1:55:05] We're gonna go ahead and do

[1:55:07] that. Who is going to present

[1:55:12] on that? Chair? I can. I can t

[1:55:14] up just a couple points on. So

[1:55:16] we have been coined record,

[1:55:19] sir. So I have to Florence

[1:55:20] County administrator, but I

[1:55:21] appreciate their team because

[1:55:22] we've been Corning with

[1:55:23] Adventhealth and their team on

[1:55:24] This pond issue item here is

[1:55:28] required before our

[1:55:29] jurisdiction in which the

[1:55:32] project is located. We the

[1:55:34] county has no liability or

[1:55:35] risk associated with the van

[1:55:35] were helping facilitate the

[1:55:38] hearing and the requested

[1:55:39] resolution and then attending

[1:55:43] in We've got Adam Johnson, ceo

[1:55:44] of Adventhealth and Kaylee,

[1:55:45] Tuck from get Great Robinson

[1:55:46] is a Fort Myers office. The

[1:55:46] thank you for waiting and

[1:55:49] being with us. And then on

[1:55:49] teams. We have Chris Wall

[1:55:52] Wrath and Kristen Wash Hilson

[1:55:55] their bond council with the

[1:55:56] firm of Chapman and Cutler.

[1:55:58] And then I'm going to turn it

[1:55:59] over to Chris. Believe he's

[1:56:01] there on teams and he'll speak

[1:56:03] to the the purpose of the

[1:56:04] hearing and the requested

[1:56:04] resolution approval. So,

[1:56:05] Chris, it's all yours. Thanks

[1:56:07] for weighing about.

[1:56:08] >> No Thank you very much.

[1:56:11] Good morning, everybody. 10%.

[1:56:15] I personally for the records

[1:56:15] up. Sure. Christopher from

[1:56:16] Chapman and Cutler, we are

[1:56:17] fine counsel to Adventhealth.

[1:56:24] Thank you. Okay. Welcome as

[1:56:24] Hector said, the reason for

[1:56:25] the hearing today at the

[1:56:29] request for resolution is

[1:56:30] authorize Adventhealth and

[1:56:31] they're issuing partners. Both

[1:56:32] the Colorado Health Facilities

[1:56:32] Authority and the Highlands

[1:56:35] County Health Facilities,

[1:56:36] Authority to issue tax exempt

[1:56:39] revenue bonds for the system.

[1:56:40] In this case, for the

[1:56:41] facilities that they now own

[1:56:44] in Port Charlotte, the way

[1:56:46] that the federal income tax

[1:56:48] law works in order to go ahead

[1:56:50] and finance something out of

[1:56:51] basis. You need to have public

[1:56:52] hearing and location for all

[1:56:54] the projects are located. And

[1:56:57] so that's the request for this

[1:56:58] hearing today. The materials

[1:57:01] that you have in front of you

[1:57:02] authorize bond in the amount

[1:57:05] up to 400 million dollars each

[1:57:06] program. So 400 million

[1:57:07] dollars for the facilities in

[1:57:10] Port Charlotte over the next 3

[1:57:11] years by the Colorado Health

[1:57:12] Facilities Authority and by

[1:57:15] the Highlands County Health

[1:57:16] Facility Authority. All of

[1:57:17] these issuers have

[1:57:18] cross-border powers and that's

[1:57:20] why we're able to go ahead and

[1:57:21] finance facilities outside of

[1:57:24] Colorado went outside and

[1:57:25] Highlands County with with

[1:57:28] Even though the that that is

[1:57:29] sure doesn't have a prime

[1:57:31] location. And Charlotte

[1:57:34] County, as Hector said,

[1:57:35] there's no liability.

[1:57:36] Charlotte County here this

[1:57:37] hearing is is just for federal

[1:57:40] income tax purposes. Only the

[1:57:41] county's name will be on any

[1:57:45] of the offering documents has

[1:57:47] no liability. You know, with

[1:57:49] respect to this is a very

[1:57:52] common plan that we do across

[1:57:54] the country to get approvals

[1:57:57] like this and greatly

[1:57:58] appreciates the county's

[1:58:00] ability assist us in this

[1:58:01] endeavor and will allow us to

[1:58:04] to finance facilities at Port

[1:58:05] Charlotte Hospital over the

[1:58:05] next several years that I had

[1:58:08] a more cost-effective pace.

[1:58:08] >> Thank you, sir. Any

[1:58:12] questions for open the public?

[1:58:13] Ok, we're hoping to sign up to

[1:58:13] the public. Anybody wishing

[1:58:14] speak on this item. You'll

[1:58:15] have 5 minutes state your name

[1:58:18] for the record. Anybody from

[1:58:19] the public wishing to speak on

[1:58:20] item t to please come forward

[1:58:20] state. Name for the record.

[1:58:22] You have 5 minutes. MR.

[1:58:26] CHAIRMAN, as you know, in

[1:58:26] rising moved close public

[1:58:27] input so that motion second

[1:58:28] close public input. Is there

[1:58:28] any further discussion? There

[1:58:33] any opposition to motion that

[1:58:34] passes unanimously, MR.

[1:58:35] CHAIRMAN with a resolution

[1:58:35] motion resolution. Is there

[1:58:36] any further discussion? There

[1:58:38] any opposition to the motion

[1:58:39] that passes unanimously ok?

[1:58:45] Thank you, sir.

[1:58:45] >> Excellent. Thank you,

[1:58:46] everybody. Thank you. We're

[1:58:47] gonna go back to our regular

[1:58:50] agenda. Item. S 3, 2026 local

[1:58:51] government area of

[1:58:55] opportunity. Missus, Turner,

[1:58:58] you're recognized to present.

[1:59:14] >> Good morning commissioners

[1:59:15] for the record calling Turner

[1:59:15] Charlotte County, Human

[1:59:18] Services. I'm here this

[1:59:19] morning behalf of the

[1:59:21] Affordable Housing Advisory

[1:59:23] Committee presenting to you

[1:59:24] their recommendation for 2026

[1:59:25] local government area of

[1:59:32] opportunity. What is it's a

[1:59:34] method where local government

[1:59:34] is given an opportunity to

[1:59:35] determine where affordable

[1:59:36] housing is located in our

[1:59:40] community. Designed by Florida

[1:59:41] Housing Finance Corporation so

[1:59:42] that we have some skin in the

[1:59:44] game. This is a permanent

[1:59:47] source of funding and each

[1:59:48] local government can come in

[1:59:53] one commitment. Funding. For

[1:59:56] any particular rfa. There are

[1:59:58] several priority goals. The

[2:00:02] Florida House and will fund in

[2:00:03] 2026. And permit ready

[2:00:04] projects are given a priority.

[2:00:08] Boost for each goal.

[2:00:11] Continuous support

[2:00:11] year-over-year of a project

[2:00:13] results in higher priority in

[2:00:19] Florida. Housing our face. So

[2:00:22] for 2026, Florida housing

[2:00:24] issued there are a Fe 2026 to

[2:00:25] a one, which is the 9% low

[2:00:27] income housing tax credit for

[2:00:30] small and medium counties.

[2:00:31] That was issued on JULY. 16th

[2:00:32] applications are due AUGUST

[2:00:37] 11. Applicants to that rfa

[2:00:40] must secure verification of

[2:00:41] local contribution of a

[2:00:43] minimum of $340,000. While

[2:00:44] that can be issued and a grant

[2:00:46] or loan. Our proposal is for

[2:00:51] alone. Charlotte home and the

[2:00:51] board of County Commissioners

[2:00:55] issued an rfa on. MAY 4th with

[2:00:58] a deadline of JUNE 5th and we

[2:01:01] received 2 applications.

[2:01:03] Provided for you is an

[2:01:08] overview of various nuances of

[2:01:10] each property each proposal

[2:01:11] and you can see in this

[2:01:14] side-by-side comparison. That

[2:01:18] they ranked fairly similarly

[2:01:18] both properties, both proposed

[2:01:21] properties are very desirable

[2:01:22] to your affordable Housing

[2:01:25] Advisory Committee and staff.

[2:01:29] They scored very nearly the

[2:01:30] same slightly lower. Am I on

[2:01:31] average for a blue Jeep Creek?

[2:01:38] 2. Slightly closer proximity,

[2:01:39] 2 shopping in employment and

[2:01:40] things of that nature for

[2:01:42] Murdoch Square. Back up a

[2:01:45] little bit. Deep Creek, 2 is

[2:01:48] phase 2 of a project that you

[2:01:51] awarded lga. 0, 2, in 2020.

[2:01:58] 22. That is 70 units of

[2:01:59] affordable housing. This

[2:02:01] phase. 2 proposal would bring

[2:02:04] an additional 84 units of

[2:02:06] affordable housing on the same

[2:02:07] site. You can see the unit

[2:02:09] next for those units that

[2:02:10] they're proposing and the rent

[2:02:13] range. Recognizing that these

[2:02:14] are one and 2 bedroom.

[2:02:18] Apartments. The loan terms for

[2:02:20] should blue Deep Creek be

[2:02:26] selected is a 30 year at. 3.6,

[2:02:27] 2%. Amortized for 30 years.

[2:02:30] The term 15. Their estimated

[2:02:33] Lisa would be MAY of 2028.

[2:02:34] Their experience, their

[2:02:38] ability to provide property

[2:02:38] management, things of that

[2:02:39] nature are are listed here

[2:02:41] included in their full

[2:02:44] application. That was provided

[2:02:45] to you and they are currently

[2:02:47] in partnership with us on a

[2:02:48] couple of affordable housing

[2:02:50] developments and they are in

[2:02:51] good standing and in

[2:02:52] compliance with rental

[2:02:54] monitoring. They're not permit

[2:02:58] ready. They do not have

[2:02:58] continuous local government

[2:03:03] support. They are in an op

[2:03:04] area of opportunity, but they

[2:03:06] do not meet the statistical

[2:03:07] area of difficult development

[2:03:10] area criteria. Those 3 things

[2:03:12] are priority goals for Florida

[2:03:16] housing. Blue Decree perceived

[2:03:19] as Charlotte home score of 86.

[2:03:23] Murdoch Square. Slightly

[2:03:24] larger 88 units of affordable

[2:03:26] housing on veterans. This is a

[2:03:27] live local act proposed

[2:03:33] property. For families. It's a

[2:03:36] mix of 1, 2, 3 bedroom

[2:03:39] apartments. Their rent range

[2:03:40] is shared. They're am I on

[2:03:41] average is slightly higher

[2:03:42] because as they noted in their

[2:03:43] comments, they intend to serve

[2:03:46] a few up to 70% area. Median

[2:03:49] income. So that changed. Their

[2:03:49] score slightly within

[2:03:54] Charlotte home. Same long

[2:03:57] terms for the 340,000. If it

[2:03:57] is awarded to them with the

[2:03:58] exception of a slightly higher

[2:04:01] interest rate of 4.9, their

[2:04:02] lease is anticipated for

[2:04:05] OCTOBER of 20. Their

[2:04:06] experience, their ability to

[2:04:09] provide property management is

[2:04:09] explained in the overview and

[2:04:10] their full application that

[2:04:14] was provided to We have no

[2:04:15] prior performance concerns or

[2:04:15] conditions to share because

[2:04:17] we've not partnered with them

[2:04:18] and affordable housing

[2:04:21] previously. They are not yet

[2:04:23] permit ready. They did receive

[2:04:27] 2025. Local government support

[2:04:28] this year would give them 2

[2:04:29] years of continuous support.

[2:04:31] They are in an area of

[2:04:32] opportunity and they do meet

[2:04:35] the side. Goal. They received

[2:04:42] a score of 82. So we had an

[2:04:43] open public review and scoring

[2:04:44] session for the Review

[2:04:47] Committee on JUNE. 15th. As I

[2:04:48] noted, Lou, Deep Creek had a

[2:04:53] slightly higher score. And the

[2:04:54] most competitive for the

[2:04:57] Florida housing rfa 2026. To a

[2:04:58] one it was deemed to be

[2:05:00] Murdoch Square. The Affordable

[2:05:02] Housing Advisory Committee. I

[2:05:05] see a typo. They met JUNE

[2:05:08] 24th, not the 23rd and they

[2:05:12] had much deliberation and saw

[2:05:13] that same overview receive

[2:05:14] some additional documentation

[2:05:15] from the housing trust group

[2:05:18] about there impression about

[2:05:19] there competitiveness in the

[2:05:23] rfa this year. They agree.

[2:05:24] Both projects are very highly

[2:05:27] desired, but we can only

[2:05:28] choose one and they opted to

[2:05:30] go for the one who would be

[2:05:31] most competitive. But the

[2:05:34] Florida housing rfa process in

[2:05:35] 2026. So that is their

[2:05:37] recommendation to you. Some

[2:05:40] key factors to consider as you

[2:05:41] deliberate to your local

[2:05:46] preferences one minute,

[2:05:46] please.

[2:05:46] >> Comm. Tiseo: Can you

[2:05:47] explain again? Just so it's

[2:05:48] clear why the Murdoch squares

[2:05:50] most likely to be funded.

[2:05:58] >> I can. There are. I believe

[2:05:58] 8.

[2:05:59] >> Separate goals that Florida

[2:05:59] House and will fund in their

[2:06:00] rfa process as they review

[2:06:01] applications.

[2:06:06] >> And one is current local

[2:06:07] government support. One is

[2:06:08] continuous local government

[2:06:08] support for 2 years. Once

[2:06:09] sunrail goal that doesn't

[2:06:13] apply to us one is for the and

[2:06:16] and saga goal.

[2:06:17] >> When from Ation, what aside

[2:06:20] stands for again.

[2:06:21] >> Statistical area of

[2:06:24] difficult development area.

[2:06:25] Kind of strange, but that is

[2:06:28] what it is. The bottom line

[2:06:32] is. Housing trust Group

[2:06:33] contends that they qualify for

[2:06:37] 5 of the 8 separate goals

[2:06:38] within Florida Housing's

[2:06:41] review process and that blue

[2:06:41] to creek would this year only

[2:06:45] qualify for 3 of those same

[2:06:45] goals. So the likelihood of

[2:06:47] housing trust group having

[2:06:50] more bites at the apple, so to

[2:06:54] speak is is their contention.

[2:06:55] They both agreed, however, in

[2:06:55] discussions that because

[2:06:56] neither of them right now at

[2:06:57] the time of application permit

[2:07:01] ready. Funding for either of

[2:07:08] them in the cycle Less likely

[2:07:09] because in each goal, Florida

[2:07:11] housing the permit ready.

[2:07:12] Project. That means first and

[2:07:15] then others, if possible.

[2:07:22] Thank you help. So for Blooded

[2:07:23] Creek, this is the completion

[2:07:23] of phase 2 of an existing

[2:07:27] development in Deep Creek. All

[2:07:29] tenants or below 60%. Am I?

[2:07:32] Area median income? That's a

[2:07:33] little less competitive in

[2:07:36] 2026. They stated earlier and

[2:07:37] continue to contend they will

[2:07:40] be permit ready in time for

[2:07:43] 2027 and their belief is with

[2:07:45] local government support in

[2:07:46] 2026. And local government

[2:07:48] continuous support in 2027.

[2:07:49] They would be most competitive

[2:07:54] 4. That cycle next year for

[2:07:57] the 9% tax credit for Blooded

[2:07:57] Creek, Square. On the other

[2:07:58] hand, it's a new development

[2:08:00] in Port Charlotte. It's a live

[2:08:04] local act location. I-44 1% of

[2:08:05] their tenants would be

[2:08:08] slightly higher than 60%. Am

[2:08:10] I? They are more competitive

[2:08:11] in this cycle and we do

[2:08:12] believe we do agree with that

[2:08:13] contention staff to agree that

[2:08:17] they are more competitive in

[2:08:18] 2026, they're eligible for 3

[2:08:22] goals. And they have proximity

[2:08:27] to medical work. In the past.

[2:08:28] You funded the brand is p#

[2:08:28] #

[2:08:30] Gorda. 3 by new star

[2:08:32] Development and you have

[2:08:34] funded Blue Deep Creek phase.

[2:08:35] One, I believe sky

[2:08:37] communities. They are about to

[2:08:39] lease up and we are very

[2:08:41] excited about that. Probably

[2:08:47] more likely AUGUST. Then JULY.

[2:08:48] I also want to note that both

[2:08:50] developers are in the room as

[2:08:53] are a have members. Who were

[2:08:57] present for the deliberation

[2:08:59] on JUNE 24th and open to have

[2:08:59] any discussion answer any

[2:09:02] questions you might have. We

[2:09:02] are asking that you consider

[2:09:04] the a hack reccomendation for

[2:09:04] local preference and select

[2:09:08] your preferred development

[2:09:10] that you authorize a $340,000

[2:09:12] Affordable Housing Trust Fund

[2:09:14] loan for the selected

[2:09:15] applicant based on their

[2:09:18] proposed terms. And that that

[2:09:20] loan would be contingent upon

[2:09:22] the award of the Florida

[2:09:23] Housing Finance Corporation

[2:09:26] for for like Tech, and that

[2:09:27] you would authorize the

[2:09:29] CHAIRMAN To sign the require

[2:09:30] verification of contribution

[2:09:31] forms on behalf of the

[2:09:33] selected development. Yeah, I

[2:09:39] would

[2:09:39] >> Comm. Tiseo: are you all up

[2:09:40] to date? Obviously I've been

[2:09:41] on a hack for a long time. I

[2:09:43] was at the last meeting. Both

[2:09:44] applicants came in had an

[2:09:47] opportunity present. Take una

[2:09:48] from all the members. It was

[2:09:49] very, very good, thorough

[2:09:54] discussion. As you all know,

[2:09:55] hack has some really, really

[2:10:00] good knowledgeable people.

[2:10:01] Very engaged group in

[2:10:01] everything affordable housing,

[2:10:07] which is our role. We made

[2:10:08] that recommendation again

[2:10:12] through those vigorous

[2:10:12] discussions. There was one

[2:10:15] person who did not support the

[2:10:15] recommendation at of the

[2:10:20] group. It was because of

[2:10:21] Murdoch Square property with

[2:10:22] some in gress egress. I think

[2:10:24] to the rear of the property, I

[2:10:25] believe the applicant

[2:10:26] subsequently submitted a site

[2:10:28] plan addressing that issue.

[2:10:31] But other than that. That was

[2:10:34] it. Everybody else was in full

[2:10:35] support and the man and it

[2:10:38] came down from me and I think

[2:10:39] to the members, which one was

[2:10:43] most likely to be funded. And

[2:10:45] I asked professional staff. I

[2:10:46] Missus Turner, what was your

[2:10:48] professional opinion? And she

[2:10:49] stated today that Murdoch

[2:10:49] Square is the most likely to

[2:10:53] be funded. Are bold goal is to

[2:10:55] get affordable housing. Into

[2:10:59] the marketplace and so we

[2:11:01] support the one most likely to

[2:11:02] succeed. So that was a little

[2:11:04] bit of background on the

[2:11:05] discussions that we had isn't

[2:11:08] a hack. Again, both applicants

[2:11:08] were there had had a chance to

[2:11:09] present and engage with our

[2:11:13] group. Answer questions. So

[2:11:13] any other comments on this

[2:11:17] item? We'll need We'll need a

[2:11:19] motion. There's 3 parts to

[2:11:21] this. I will note in in the

[2:11:26] packet provided for you.

[2:11:27] >> I was asked to prepare

[2:11:27] excerpt minutes from that

[2:11:28] dialogue at the apec meeting.

[2:11:30] Those are there and attached.

[2:11:31] That is the come head-to-head

[2:11:34] comparison provided by Housing

[2:11:35] Trust group. At that time on

[2:11:38] JUNE 24th to be a hack after

[2:11:40] that Florida housing amended

[2:11:43] their their rfa slightly and

[2:11:47] it shifted some things that

[2:11:50] increased their

[2:11:51] competitiveness and they

[2:11:53] provided a supplemental

[2:11:54] updated head-to-head

[2:11:54] comparison from their

[2:11:56] perspective about their

[2:11:58] competitiveness that was

[2:11:59] provided based on guidance

[2:11:59] from administration and the

[2:12:01] county Attorney and commission

[2:12:05] to you as well for your

[2:12:06] review. And so that the public

[2:12:07] would have access to that as

[2:12:09] well. So those 2 items are

[2:12:10] attached year agenda so that

[2:12:12] you can see from housing trust

[2:12:14] groups perspective about their

[2:12:19] competitiveness at state are

[2:12:20] >> Comm. Tiseo: I think you

[2:12:20] stated in the presentation,

[2:12:21] the biggest issue I think we

[2:12:22] had as we head to great

[2:12:22] projects. That's it. That's

[2:12:23] the problem. It's an

[2:12:27] embarrassment of riches. Kerry

[2:12:28] likes to say I had missed

[2:12:30] commissioner Doherty but MR.

[2:12:30] Davidson, the cute like you're

[2:12:33] from legal first. Absolutely.

[2:12:34] Okay. I'm down turnout. Just

[2:12:37] like to ask Linda come There

[2:12:38] was part of that motion to

[2:12:40] just described the issue with

[2:12:41] the loan terms and make sure

[2:12:41] the board's clear and what

[2:12:45] that issue is.

[2:12:46] >> I

[2:12:46] >> He's morning to Good

[2:12:47] morning. Commissioners,

[2:12:50] Clinton, Pruitt, for the

[2:12:51] record. My question is part of

[2:12:52] the request was for you guys

[2:12:56] to make a motion to approve

[2:12:57] the developer and to issue a

[2:12:57] loan, provided the received

[2:13:00] their award from the rfa

[2:13:02] contingent upon the developers

[2:13:03] long terms. And I want to make

[2:13:07] sure we flush out if we know

[2:13:09] what own terms are so that I

[2:13:09] will know what that these

[2:13:10] people when I get ready to

[2:13:12] draft these documents. That's

[2:13:13] important. So we don't have to

[2:13:17] come back to you for

[2:13:18] clarification. Do you want the

[2:13:18] applicant to come up and speak

[2:13:19] to the think it's important

[2:13:22] for the board to understand

[2:13:23] what those provision alone

[2:13:24] terms would so that they are

[2:13:25] drafted in the document,

[2:13:26] meaning the loan terms from

[2:13:27] the county to the developer,

[2:13:28] from the county to the

[2:13:29] developer. Correct? These are

[2:13:31] some basics.

[2:13:40] Commissioned already.

[2:13:41] >> Comm. Doherty: Thank you,

[2:13:43] MR. CHAIRMAN. Well, both. I've

[2:13:43] had had the opportunity

[2:13:44] discuss both projects, both

[2:13:45] applicants. They're both

[2:13:47] excellent.

[2:13:53] >> I agree with comment.

[2:13:53] >> Comm. Doherty: a struggle

[2:13:55] right now with Murdoch Square.

[2:13:56] And I understand why the

[2:13:59] committee made the

[2:14:00] recommendation for the highly

[2:14:01] probable that they would score

[2:14:04] better. But, you know, my

[2:14:05] concern is we just had a

[2:14:07] presentation on the need for

[2:14:09] industrial plant in Charlotte

[2:14:12] County. This is on 4 acres

[2:14:14] industrially zoned property.

[2:14:16] Small, small parcel the other

[2:14:20] issue of guy is. I think it's

[2:14:23] 88 units on 4 acres. 22 units

[2:14:25] break. I saw the conceptual

[2:14:26] site plan absolutely no area

[2:14:31] for storm water management.

[2:14:32] Probably I've I've vaulted put

[2:14:35] under par Raymond James

[2:14:35] Stadium for the Buccaneers,

[2:14:38] the target across the street,

[2:14:39] vaulted underneath the parking

[2:14:42] lots because they didn't have

[2:14:43] real estate to put open storm

[2:14:45] water so it can be done. But

[2:14:46] it seems fly in the face of

[2:14:48] affordable housing. That's not

[2:14:48] it's not inexpensive will be,

[2:14:54] but that one it's end. I saw

[2:14:55] access issues. I do not want

[2:14:55] to see a dry. We are Veterans

[2:14:59] Boulevard. You know, I think

[2:15:00] coming out on Kenilworth

[2:15:00] makes. And so I have more site

[2:15:04] plan issues with that project

[2:15:05] and its only conceptual at

[2:15:07] this point. I understand that.

[2:15:08] But I do have some concerns

[2:15:11] over that converting that

[2:15:12] industrial property when we

[2:15:14] just got a presentation that

[2:15:16] were grossly short on

[2:15:16] industrial. And that's all I

[2:15:20] just want to get that out. Any

[2:15:21] comments on the implications

[2:15:22] commission recognized. Thank

[2:15:26] you, MR. CHAIRMAN.

[2:15:27] >> I had I had some concerns

[2:15:27] on veterans. But when they

[2:15:29] added the rear entrance to it,

[2:15:30] you know that to me made a lot

[2:15:31] of sense. I think you need to

[2:15:32] have a full flow throughout

[2:15:36] front and back on it for

[2:15:37] access emergency access. You

[2:15:38] don't want to have to send.

[2:15:40] Fire trucks will wear in the

[2:15:41] back kennel, work come into a

[2:15:44] facility like that. So I think

[2:15:45] they have access in 2

[2:15:46] directions for public safety

[2:15:46] perspective. I think it's it's

[2:15:51] good. The storm water could be

[2:15:52] an issue. I looked at that

[2:15:55] too. And I was worried about

[2:15:56] buffers and they they're

[2:15:59] willing to address buffers

[2:15:59] within just industrial mixed

[2:16:00] or baby. Our Zara guess,

[2:16:06] right? So that was a concern

[2:16:08] we need the housing we know.

[2:16:09] We've been short for many,

[2:16:10] many years. And yes, I we

[2:16:12] could have both of them. I do.

[2:16:13] But I think we can have both

[2:16:16] of them. But I think we have

[2:16:18] to go with the one that has

[2:16:21] best possible chance of being

[2:16:23] funded first, just like x

[2:16:24] said. And so I've make the

[2:16:27] motion that we. Approve

[2:16:31] Murdoch Square as requested, I

[2:16:32] can switch with screens.

[2:16:35] Sorry. Parts a b and parts a b

[2:16:38] and c. And we need to add

[2:16:39] clarification balloon terms to

[2:16:46] this. That motion.

[2:16:52] >> I'll second that discussion

[2:16:53] Commissioner David. But I I

[2:16:54] know. I the peco all way to

[2:16:55] Gotta take not want that

[2:17:00] occur. Smart.

[2:17:00] >> Comm. Deutsch: I think the

[2:17:01] there are some low in terms in

[2:17:02] this overview here. I think

[2:17:03] those are the basic long-term.

[2:17:04] So I think what we could, but

[2:17:09] I would recommend MISTER

[2:17:10] Chairs that that the documents

[2:17:13] drafted pursuant to the county

[2:17:14] attorneys review sufficiency

[2:17:15] and will take the rest of that

[2:17:16] from there. I think that

[2:17:19] should work out and will

[2:17:20] follow what we have done in

[2:17:22] the past that. I think the

[2:17:25] basic terms are they're okay.

[2:17:26] But they're obviously it's

[2:17:27] it's an agreement. So they'll

[2:17:28] be a lot of other things in

[2:17:29] there. So will make a draft if

[2:17:32] we can't come to a conclusion

[2:17:33] or reasonable understanding

[2:17:33] with the applicant that we

[2:17:39] will come back to the board.

[2:17:40] >> Comm. Doherty: Who should

[2:17:41] order I have really no

[2:17:41] objection to the motion. I

[2:17:42] just again. Good, great

[2:17:43] project. I guess if it's a

[2:17:47] write-in, write out a

[2:17:48] veterans, no median openings,

[2:17:49] you know, that makes sense.

[2:17:51] Obviously needs the back for

[2:17:51] safety, but really have have

[2:17:55] the selling Yeah, all stuff

[2:17:56] can get work out. I think the

[2:17:59] applicant has heard the

[2:18:00] concerns and, you know, I

[2:18:02] wouldn't have any objection to

[2:18:03] actually, you know, that's a

[2:18:04] lot of units on that 4 acres,

[2:18:05] you know, and I you know,

[2:18:08] maybe maybe it's a other are

[2:18:09] architectural and engineering

[2:18:11] solutions that could think

[2:18:14] more affordable but anyways,

[2:18:15] that's lie can, sir. That's

[2:18:16] all I think. We approved 600

[2:18:18] units for the Murdoch for the

[2:18:20] track. What was on Bachmann

[2:18:21] track Mark, the other than we

[2:18:23] talk about hundreds of you've

[2:18:24] got some. You've got some real

[2:18:26] estate to work with there. And

[2:18:29] I get over to about access

[2:18:30] totally get it. You know, I

[2:18:31] have no objection. The motion

[2:18:31] okay. So is there any further

[2:18:33] discussion? Is there any

[2:18:36] opposition to the motion that

[2:18:37] passes unanimously? We move on

[2:18:40] to item number s.

[2:18:40] >> For Port Charlotte Beach,

[2:18:44] the schedule. MR. Scott,

[2:18:50] you're recognized to present

[2:18:50] And eye on that last night. I

[2:18:53] really do want to thank the

[2:18:56] applicants that tell you it

[2:19:00] was it wasn't contentious, but

[2:19:00] they were they were supporting

[2:19:01] their position at hack

[2:19:05] meeting. It was great in a way

[2:19:07] to hear that they want to be

[2:19:08] here in Charlotte County,

[2:19:09] partner with us in any way

[2:19:10] possible to provide affordable

[2:19:10] housing. I encourage you to

[2:19:15] keep coming back. We supported

[2:19:16] phase one. Unfortunate this

[2:19:17] time for face to it wasn't

[2:19:19] there. But but we're here to

[2:19:20] support affordable housing.

[2:19:22] Thank you for for thinking

[2:19:23] about Charlotte County thank

[2:19:25] you for that very can vary

[2:19:26] from very competitive prior to

[2:19:27] that. And the applicants know

[2:19:27] that. I think they both

[2:19:35] recognize very competitive.

[2:19:35] Has got recognize good morning

[2:19:40] times got to service director.

[2:19:41] >> I wanted to bring forward.

[2:19:41] The actual requested motion is

[2:19:43] going to be a resolution of up

[2:19:44] that our fee schedule updating

[2:19:46] it specifically in Port

[2:19:47] Charlotte Beach. But I wanted

[2:19:47] to take the opportunity to

[2:19:49] kind of go through a

[2:19:50] presentation. I'm just kind of

[2:19:51] walk you through kind of the

[2:19:54] research that we had done. The

[2:19:55] benchmarking comparisons

[2:19:56] because this is a slight

[2:19:56] change of how we have done our

[2:20:00] normal rental rights. So this

[2:20:01] will kind of just walk through

[2:20:04] or get a little bit of brief

[2:20:04] history curfew schedule, some

[2:20:05] of benchmarking be done and

[2:20:06] then we'll get weeded and then

[2:20:07] we'll get to the proposed fee

[2:20:11] schedule for consideration. So

[2:20:11] again, obviously, you know,

[2:20:12] some of this history, but the

[2:20:13] facility came on the ground

[2:20:16] and back in the 70's to make

[2:20:17] event space restrooms in a

[2:20:19] public pool. It's been

[2:20:19] renovated several times

[2:20:21] through the years, including

[2:20:25] some recovery efforts after

[2:20:25] Hurricane Charley most

[2:20:26] recently back in 18 19, we did

[2:20:28] the parking lot renovations

[2:20:29] for drainage and the sailing

[2:20:29] center was ad which was a one

[2:20:30] percent local sales tax

[2:20:36] project. Here we So some

[2:20:37] pictures of what the building

[2:20:39] used to look like. So this is

[2:20:41] how it was. And like kind of

[2:20:45] open state. An aerial of what

[2:20:46] it look like on. You can see

[2:20:47] the large outdoor deck, which

[2:20:49] was a great place for weddings

[2:20:53] and other events to happen. We

[2:20:54] did a multitude of different

[2:20:56] kinds of events where they

[2:20:57] were county directed or mostly

[2:21:01] user directed event, rental

[2:21:02] tight spaces, but heavily used

[2:21:02] by our community for many,

[2:21:07] many years. And we fast

[2:21:08] forward some of these pictures

[2:21:10] that, you know, happened

[2:21:11] through Hurricanes, Helene and

[2:21:13] Milton, but both facilities

[2:21:13] have sustained damage for the

[2:21:14] multitude of hurricanes that

[2:21:15] we've experienced over the

[2:21:18] last 5 years. So this kind of

[2:21:19] gives you this is the

[2:21:20] rendering of what the new

[2:21:24] port, Charlotte Recreation

[2:21:25] Center. We'll look like the

[2:21:26] right was a recent aerial that

[2:21:29] was provided to us by the

[2:21:30] contractor. But as you can

[2:21:31] see, it is coming out of the

[2:21:32] ground for those. You haven't

[2:21:34] been there in a while. The

[2:21:35] sighting is complete. They're

[2:21:38] working to finish up the

[2:21:40] roofing and the ndp is getting

[2:21:41] near completion as well. So

[2:21:43] they are moving along. There

[2:21:43] are substantial completion

[2:21:47] date is still Christmas Eve

[2:21:50] DECEMBER 24th of this year and

[2:21:50] then we'll move into the

[2:21:51] spring of next year. As we

[2:21:53] outfit the building for

[2:21:54] operation, which is really the

[2:21:55] main reason that we want to

[2:21:56] have this conversation is we

[2:21:57] need to be ready to start

[2:21:58] renting the facility. People

[2:22:01] are already been asking. So

[2:22:01] establishing these rental

[2:22:02] rates is why we're bringing

[2:22:05] this forward now, before we go

[2:22:05] into the AUGUST break so that

[2:22:06] we can have some rights ready

[2:22:10] to go. So our current fee

[2:22:13] schedule for indoor space is

[2:22:14] really geared towards square

[2:22:16] footage by our right. And it

[2:22:18] is pretty much universally

[2:22:19] applied throughout all of the

[2:22:19] facilities underneath

[2:22:23] community services, purview it

[2:22:25] really doesn't have any real

[2:22:26] guidance toward the structure

[2:22:28] that might be on the

[2:22:29] waterfront. That is more event

[2:22:29] space. It's just if you want

[2:22:30] to rent. It is based upon

[2:22:35] square footage in by hour. So

[2:22:36] we went through the exercise

[2:22:39] of doing original comparison

[2:22:41] of both share Sarasota and Lee

[2:22:43] and Charlotte County event

[2:22:44] facilities to really try and

[2:22:46] get a benchmark of what is in

[2:22:47] the market in our competitors

[2:22:50] and what they're doing.

[2:22:51] Because, again, this is an

[2:22:53] event and it will draw in.

[2:22:54] We've already had people who

[2:22:55] are inquiring about rentals

[2:22:58] for it. So we looked at a

[2:23:01] myriad and it runs the gamut

[2:23:05] right size price. How they

[2:23:07] break it down for additional

[2:23:09] costs because most of them not

[2:23:10] only are you paying rental

[2:23:10] cost, but then you're charged

[2:23:12] for every chair, every table.

[2:23:13] Every and you want to borrow

[2:23:18] everything as well. So we

[2:23:19] really look at all of those to

[2:23:20] really kind of get us to the

[2:23:21] nexus of where we're at in our

[2:23:23] proposed rental rates. But

[2:23:27] generally speaking, the

[2:23:29] there's 3 for rental spaces at

[2:23:30] new building that's coming out

[2:23:31] of the ground. There is a

[2:23:32] joint space that can be

[2:23:35] divided in half. There's a

[2:23:35] large base and then there's a

[2:23:38] smaller conference meeting

[2:23:39] room space. So we looked at

[2:23:41] this small and this small

[2:23:42] meeting room categories for

[2:23:43] the benchmarks for somewhere

[2:23:46] between 70 to to 50 an hour

[2:23:49] somewhere between 300 to 600 a

[2:23:50] day. Right? That event spaces,

[2:23:52] which are the bigger ones. And

[2:23:53] again, they vary in size even

[2:23:55] and I have another slide that

[2:23:56] we also looked at the event

[2:23:57] center here on down the

[2:24:01] harbor, specifically those

[2:24:03] those are varying as well. But

[2:24:06] anywhere between 5,002 1000

[2:24:07] per day, most other facilities

[2:24:08] are charging you again for all

[2:24:09] of those extra things, tables,

[2:24:10] chairs, all that kind of

[2:24:12] stuff. So we really tried to

[2:24:13] stay kind of in the middle and

[2:24:17] around most of those things.

[2:24:17] But with a new concept for our

[2:24:18] rentals that will talk about

[2:24:20] here in second. I thought I

[2:24:23] heard you say 5,000, 500 a

[2:24:27] tooth ok, The numbers just

[2:24:28] rolled together 500 to 1000 on

[2:24:29] that event. Space per day. Ok?

[2:24:30] Sorry about that. That's

[2:24:35] right. So the event center,

[2:24:37] this so this is kind of my

[2:24:39] soft launch into how dynamic

[2:24:40] pricing work. So the event

[2:24:40] center has part of their fee

[2:24:41] schedule that we bring to the

[2:24:45] board. They have a dynamic

[2:24:46] pricing all not

[2:24:47] not-for-profit, obviously a

[2:24:49] commercial which we have as

[2:24:52] well. But they also have a

[2:24:53] model for in season and out of

[2:24:54] season, right? So when they

[2:24:54] can meet demand, the price

[2:24:58] goes up for that as well. But

[2:24:58] here are their prices that

[2:25:01] they have. Again, the range on

[2:25:04] the hall's between I-95 and

[2:25:05] 1040. That really is where

[2:25:05] they start getting into the

[2:25:06] sum of their dynamic pricing

[2:25:07] of in season and out of

[2:25:12] season. So for our as we came

[2:25:12] in with the proposal of again,

[2:25:15] the large, which is the

[2:25:16] because you the square footage

[2:25:19] we're looking at basically the

[2:25:20] cat count. One is the

[2:25:21] nonprofit Cat who is the

[2:25:22] for-profit, right? That is

[2:25:23] just continuing how we have it

[2:25:26] for all of our other

[2:25:27] facilities. We're looking at

[2:25:28] doing it day weekday rate,

[2:25:29] which is Monday through

[2:25:29] Thursday and then a weekend

[2:25:31] rate, which is Friday,

[2:25:32] Saturday, Sunday. Those are

[2:25:33] peak times that the peak use

[2:25:35] when people want to rent the

[2:25:37] facilities. So we're proposing

[2:25:38] a shift differential in that

[2:25:41] for the dynamic pricing, the

[2:25:42] other change that I will point

[2:25:43] out is also in going from an

[2:25:45] hourly rate to a day rate

[2:25:47] right? It is difficult to be

[2:25:48] able to in a facility like

[2:25:51] this. We just don't see it?

[2:25:52] Multiple events going on in

[2:25:53] the same space that were

[2:25:55] turning in a day. People are

[2:25:56] reading it. It's for the day.

[2:25:58] And so we just went to that

[2:25:59] pricing instead of doing it by

[2:26:01] our it makes it Now, again, we

[2:26:03] can do multiple events and

[2:26:04] multiple spaces, but we're

[2:26:05] just not turning the room so

[2:26:06] we can have an event going on

[2:26:08] in the larger and we could

[2:26:10] have 2 different events going

[2:26:11] on in the split rooms. It's

[2:26:13] just not taking the large room

[2:26:14] and doing it 2 or 3 times a

[2:26:16] day just for set up and what

[2:26:17] events use. It just doesn't

[2:26:18] work like that. So we went to

[2:26:18] it a day rate.

[2:26:21] >> As I mentioned, all of our

[2:26:22] in-house equipment is all

[2:26:24] included in that pricing,

[2:26:26] which isn't a nice change. I

[2:26:30] think that we have as well.

[2:26:30] The other thing I'll point out

[2:26:32] as we did build in as you see

[2:26:33] the designs. And if you

[2:26:34] remember a port Charlotte

[2:26:35] Beach, a catering kitchen,

[2:26:36] which we think is an amazing

[2:26:36] amenity. We had a kitchen in

[2:26:39] the old building. It had a had

[2:26:41] a commercial hood on it. But

[2:26:44] it wasn't great. This is a

[2:26:45] full on cooking catering

[2:26:46] kitchen. What sets us apart

[2:26:48] from other people as we do not

[2:26:52] have catering even at the

[2:26:53] event center, they have

[2:26:54] in-house food and beverage

[2:26:55] services. So you have to

[2:26:56] utilize their service. Most

[2:26:57] other event spaces throughout

[2:27:00] the regions. If the same model

[2:27:00] you can rent the space. But

[2:27:03] then you also have to use our

[2:27:04] facilities. Most hotels at

[2:27:06] Purdue events is very same

[2:27:07] model. Ours is. We have a

[2:27:08] space. If you want to use it,

[2:27:09] you can cook and bring from

[2:27:12] home. You can hire your own.

[2:27:13] You can do whatever you want.

[2:27:14] There's a right to use the

[2:27:15] space, but we're not

[2:27:18] dictating. You have to use

[2:27:18] ours that reduces costs for

[2:27:21] event. Users introduced

[2:27:22] provides flexibility if they

[2:27:23] just want to cook it

[2:27:23] themselves or bring from home.

[2:27:26] We're not limiting that

[2:27:27] factor. But that significant

[2:27:27] difference between us and

[2:27:29] pretty much most other event,

[2:27:29] rental spaces that are out

[2:27:34] there. We have for a proposed

[2:27:35] these through the Parks,

[2:27:38] Recreation Advisory Board and

[2:27:39] they had provided their

[2:27:39] unanimous support as a

[2:27:41] recommendation to this board

[2:27:42] for this, the schedule that

[2:27:46] you see before you. This just

[2:27:48] kind of give you some

[2:27:50] comparisons of where we were.

[2:27:52] Again, it's not actual apples

[2:27:55] and apples, which just because

[2:27:56] of per square footage per

[2:27:57] hour. But this will kind of

[2:28:01] give you ranges. So we're in

[2:28:02] the range of where we were

[2:28:02] before, where a little bit

[2:28:04] higher than we were before,

[2:28:05] especially when we start

[2:28:06] adding on the dynamic pricing

[2:28:08] for the weekends. But again, I

[2:28:08] think you asked us to build a

[2:28:09] top notch event facility,

[2:28:11] which we have done. We have

[2:28:14] already have people that are

[2:28:15] waiting on a decision on the

[2:28:16] rental rate so they can start

[2:28:21] booking out their events so we

[2:28:25] these proposes proposed fees

[2:28:26] are within the range in the

[2:28:27] and provide a great

[2:28:29] opportunity for the community.

[2:28:29] So that all stand for any

[2:28:30] questions you all might have

[2:28:31] about our proposed fee

[2:28:34] schedule. So the fact that

[2:28:35] there's nobody the queue sell

[2:28:41] jump in real quick.

[2:28:42] Neighborhood. Watch.

[2:28:43] >> Out there. They have

[2:28:43] meetings out there. I think

[2:28:44] they used to meet in the old

[2:28:45] facility from time to time.

[2:28:47] And I think they used billions

[2:28:48] as well. They reserve the

[2:28:49] billions they have used both

[2:28:50] pavilions right now,

[2:28:50] obviously, but they MAY want

[2:28:52] to get back into the building.

[2:28:53] It's a small group. What they

[2:28:56] pay. Based on the schedule.

[2:28:59] What what would they have been

[2:28:59] charged before? It was

[2:29:00] demolished? The in the old

[2:29:04] facility for the space they

[2:29:04] used.

[2:29:05] >> I'm not sure what room size

[2:29:06] that would be. So I have the

[2:29:09] old room science and water,

[2:29:10] size with a fall into today.

[2:29:11] So the old rooms, the smaller,

[2:29:13] which is the one that was kind

[2:29:14] of a closest to where the

[2:29:22] outdoor dec was was about 975

[2:29:23] square feet. So they would

[2:29:24] have paid they nonprofit rate,

[2:29:25] which was $200 a day. If you

[2:29:26] do that by hours. So in

[2:29:28] looking at excuse me, it's

[2:29:30] about $25 an hour is what they

[2:29:32] were paying before. So that

[2:29:36] came out to about $200 a day.

[2:29:37] So so what are they pay before

[2:29:38] I don't have their exact

[2:29:40] rental What they paid before.

[2:29:41] That's just how it would have

[2:29:44] been applied I don't have a

[2:29:49] rental okay for them. So don't

[2:29:50] have that.

[2:29:50] >> Comm. Tiseo: I'm just

[2:29:51] trying to figure out could you

[2:29:52] know those small groups? It's

[2:29:52] important. You know

[2:29:53] historically they met there

[2:29:54] and I don't know for pricing

[2:29:55] them out with this schedule.

[2:29:58] That's what trying to compare

[2:29:59] for the size room that they

[2:29:59] would have used back in the

[2:30:00] day. And then what room with

[2:30:01] they use now if they asked you

[2:30:05] to reserve a room for a

[2:30:06] meeting? So honestly, if it

[2:30:06] was my my comparison for them

[2:30:10] would probably the conference

[2:30:10] room.

[2:30:11] >> Right, which on this is in

[2:30:13] the middle of 336 square feet,

[2:30:14] right? So there's the large

[2:30:16] event space, divide, a

[2:30:17] ballroom event space. And then

[2:30:17] we built in this conference

[2:30:22] room space to allow kind of

[2:30:22] those smaller groups. So

[2:30:24] probably that and or if they

[2:30:25] need to maybe move to one of

[2:30:27] the divide Abul spaces, which

[2:30:28] is the be slash sea space

[2:30:29] which get you up into that 800

[2:30:32] square foot space.

[2:30:33] >> Comm. Tiseo: So so room

[2:30:36] d-conn for $250 a day,

[2:30:37] correct? So if they needed

[2:30:38] just for like a two-hour

[2:30:38] meeting, they pay the one we

[2:30:43] one 50 day, ok, and before

[2:30:44] that they pay by the hour.

[2:30:45] Paid by the also would have

[2:30:45] been 5th. 25 bucks an hour.

[2:30:50] Correct? Okay. So.

[2:30:52] Theoretically, if they needed

[2:30:53] the roofer two-hour meeting,

[2:30:53] it would pay 50 before. Now

[2:30:57] it's about 150. I have a

[2:30:57] little issue with

[2:30:59] affordability. For that on on

[2:31:03] that. And being at that being

[2:31:05] at the facility watching it go

[2:31:06] up. We have usable space now

[2:31:09] because we've raised the

[2:31:10] facility thousands of square

[2:31:11] feet underneath. How is that

[2:31:11] going to be handled somebody

[2:31:15] wanted to use that and maybe

[2:31:16] meet there, how we going house

[2:31:16] the public and have access

[2:31:18] because they're finishing the

[2:31:19] ceiling there and they're

[2:31:19] putting in lighting. So what

[2:31:24] is that going to be used for?

[2:31:24] >> So we have a program that

[2:31:25] as event space. But to your

[2:31:29] point, it is usable space,

[2:31:30] right? So we haven't gotten

[2:31:30] that far down into it. And

[2:31:31] again, we rent pavilions,

[2:31:34] right? So people can use that.

[2:31:35] i'm sure as it comes out of

[2:31:35] the ground we see with that

[2:31:38] usage looks like whether it is

[2:31:40] events that won an outdoor

[2:31:41] space that there is the

[2:31:41] outdoor deck on the built the

[2:31:44] building, the current

[2:31:45] building, right? Could they

[2:31:49] want an overflow? That's

[2:31:49] downstairs? Absolutely. We

[2:31:50] haven't gotten to that and

[2:31:51] figuring out exactly what that

[2:31:52] looked like. We don't know

[2:31:53] what that demand will be for

[2:31:54] underneath. But to your point,

[2:31:55] they're absolutely a space

[2:31:55] underneath there that can be

[2:31:57] used for just general public

[2:31:58] to be able to be out of the

[2:32:02] sun will near the water. How

[2:32:03] it folds into event rentable

[2:32:04] space. I don't have an answer

[2:32:05] for that yet. We want really

[2:32:09] see how the demand looks.

[2:32:10] >> Comm. Tiseo: Yeah, I think

[2:32:10] that's going to be really

[2:32:11] important that we start

[2:32:12] game-planning because it's

[2:32:15] thousands of square feet of

[2:32:16] usable space. I think it's got

[2:32:17] at least a 10 foot ceiling or

[2:32:18] 9 foot ceiling with when they

[2:32:19] the effort they put the

[2:32:21] finishing swimming with a

[2:32:22] finishing on and you've got

[2:32:22] views of the water and you're

[2:32:25] fully protected from the

[2:32:26] elements underneath Weathersby

[2:32:27] picnic tables and are there

[2:32:29] for people to meet. I don't

[2:32:29] know if that's going to you're

[2:32:30] going to have some type of

[2:32:31] decorative aluminum fence to

[2:32:32] stop people from sleeping

[2:32:37] there overnight. Things like

[2:32:37] that. But we're going to have

[2:32:38] to address it because it is a

[2:32:40] lot of space. A lot of usable

[2:32:41] space and we need to somehow

[2:32:45] full that into this schedule

[2:32:48] of uses and who can use it.

[2:32:49] Because that's not really

[2:32:49] being addressed here because

[2:32:50] on day one, if we open, what's

[2:32:53] it going to be? Going People

[2:32:54] just wonder under their walk

[2:32:57] around and hang out like ride

[2:32:57] your bicycle when your bicycle

[2:32:59] up against the wall and, you

[2:33:00] know, take a gander at the

[2:33:02] harbor. So to that address,

[2:33:07] all it.

[2:33:08] >> As a rentable space, we

[2:33:09] want to really let demand

[2:33:09] right how we're going to

[2:33:10] navigate that, which is why

[2:33:12] it's not included here right?

[2:33:14] We update our annual fee

[2:33:17] schedule annually 21. The

[2:33:18] schedule and so we can address

[2:33:19] that. And every year we can

[2:33:20] bring back any potential

[2:33:22] changes. And we do that right.

[2:33:26] What we have till DECEMBER the

[2:33:27] you know, if everything goes

[2:33:30] on schedule to maybe up before

[2:33:31] DECEMBER, I'd like staff to go

[2:33:32] back and take a look at that

[2:33:34] usable space and come up with

[2:33:34] some game-planning. I don't

[2:33:35] want to wait till after we

[2:33:38] open. I think. If again, if

[2:33:39] you haven't seen it, it is a

[2:33:40] lot of space. We need to

[2:33:42] figure it out now, rather than

[2:33:46] later and we can do But but to

[2:33:47] your other question, if we are

[2:33:48] having an event going on the

[2:33:49] general public, as you know,

[2:33:50] the ability to go underneath

[2:33:53] or if it's not part of an

[2:33:53] event that is going on. Yes,

[2:33:54] that is one of the reasons we

[2:33:56] built it so people could get

[2:33:58] out of the sun underneath and

[2:33:59] be able to utilize that

[2:34:03] facility as well. So it's not

[2:34:03] being used as part of an event

[2:34:05] that's rented absolutely want

[2:34:06] the public to be able utilize

[2:34:06] that space as well.

[2:34:07] Commissioner Constance and

[2:34:08] already. Thank you, MISTER

[2:34:13] Chair.

[2:34:14] >> Comm. Constance: Tell me

[2:34:15] why do we have half day

[2:34:15] rentals when we have day

[2:34:19] broken up a little more?

[2:34:19] Because I mean, obviously, if

[2:34:20] I know that I'm going to have

[2:34:21] an event and I need the whole

[2:34:22] day or even 2 days because I

[2:34:23] want to set up today before,

[2:34:24] you know, that's fine. You

[2:34:28] can. Why not have fractions of

[2:34:31] the day? What's the problem?

[2:34:32] >> So for us when we went back

[2:34:36] and looked at our that average

[2:34:37] uses, if you will, of people

[2:34:38] that are renting out. The

[2:34:39] majority of them are pushing

[2:34:40] beyond just the 2 couple

[2:34:41] hours, we do have some

[2:34:41] meetings to commissioner to

[2:34:45] sales point. There are there

[2:34:46] were meetings that were just a

[2:34:47] couple hours here and there

[2:34:47] traditionally were renting out

[2:34:48] for longer than that. And we

[2:34:50] went to this as we can slice

[2:34:53] this cake. However, you'd like

[2:34:54] it. It just gets into the

[2:34:56] complexities of

[2:34:57] implementation. Absolutely if

[2:34:59] you would like us to provide

[2:35:02] that, it just it just gets

[2:35:03] into how many ways do you want

[2:35:04] to slice it and then we'll

[2:35:06] we'll build that for Well, and

[2:35:07] I mean, you know, I think for

[2:35:09] some of the smaller rooms, I

[2:35:10] think, you know, we want to

[2:35:11] slice it into a brownie trade.

[2:35:12] I mean, I think we need to

[2:35:14] have situation where,

[2:35:15] >> you know, and and we got to

[2:35:19] get technology. So I need I

[2:35:20] don't need people there. I

[2:35:22] don't want you using your

[2:35:23] staff. I want people to go

[2:35:24] online, be able to reserve a

[2:35:26] room for certain amount of

[2:35:26] time. They get a qr code that

[2:35:30] go over. They pop it on to the

[2:35:31] scanner at the door, the door

[2:35:33] on locks and they use their

[2:35:37] room. We need to have hands

[2:35:37] free. And this is this is the

[2:35:38] technology that should be

[2:35:39] built into this place. And I'm

[2:35:41] sure that's not what's

[2:35:41] happening, but we need to do

[2:35:42] that because you're not

[2:35:45] getting any more Ft. Ease you

[2:35:49] need to use ai and you need to

[2:35:50] use technology to do a lot of

[2:35:50] what the functions are. The

[2:35:51] traditional you need to get

[2:35:53] somebody down there open the

[2:35:54] doors and all that stuff that

[2:35:55] we don't need that anymore. We

[2:35:57] need to have technology

[2:35:59] infiltrating this facility so

[2:36:00] that people are not part of

[2:36:03] the equation until it's

[2:36:03] custodial or it's, you know,

[2:36:04] things that have to get done

[2:36:06] manually. The other part of

[2:36:10] this is that and I agree with

[2:36:13] the CHAIRMAN Of space

[2:36:14] underneath. You know, you do

[2:36:15] rent that pavilions, but you

[2:36:17] don't have to rent the

[2:36:19] pavilion. You can come and

[2:36:20] show up. And if nobody else

[2:36:22] has rented that facility at

[2:36:24] Harbour Heights or any of your

[2:36:26] other parks, they just start

[2:36:27] using And I think that's

[2:36:28] exactly what we have to allow

[2:36:30] for beach complex. The whole

[2:36:32] purpose of having it lifted up

[2:36:32] was and by the way, those

[2:36:33] benches and what are we going

[2:36:34] to put down there? They're

[2:36:37] going to be flooded away. Look

[2:36:38] forward to another flooding

[2:36:39] event. So don't spend a

[2:36:43] bazillion dollars on those

[2:36:44] benches because that's the

[2:36:44] stuff that unless you can get

[2:36:45] there 2 days before and pull

[2:36:48] it all out, hoping that you're

[2:36:50] going to say moving upstairs,

[2:36:50] I mean, you better have your

[2:36:53] contingency plans ready,

[2:36:54] because but that spaces for

[2:36:55] folks to get out of the sun,

[2:36:57] that that is a great purpose.

[2:36:58] The other question that I have

[2:37:01] for you is those elevators.

[2:37:03] Are they piston driven or is

[2:37:04] there an elevator box on motor

[2:37:06] on top? That's pulling another

[2:37:06] because you're p#

[2:37:07] #

[2:37:07] and

[2:37:09] driven. I believe. Okay. So

[2:37:09] what are we program then? We

[2:37:10] did a lot of resiliency for

[2:37:12] the swimming pool. What are we

[2:37:14] put? What are we got in place

[2:37:20] for locking down you know,

[2:37:22] panels over the openings of

[2:37:23] the elevators. So when the 6

[2:37:23] or 8 feet of water show up

[2:37:26] like they did at station 10,

[2:37:26] which we still haven't fixed

[2:37:29] at a Palm Island with all of

[2:37:30] these elevators need to have

[2:37:33] those panels ready install so

[2:37:34] we can brace for the water

[2:37:37] elevation. And then when it

[2:37:39] goes away, you pull the

[2:37:39] panel's, throw the power and

[2:37:41] bam, you have an elevator as

[2:37:43] opposed to you'll be offline

[2:37:45] for 3 or 4 months until all of

[2:37:46] that elevator stuff gets taken

[2:37:50] care of. So where are we with

[2:37:51] That's a good Find more

[2:37:52] information things you think

[2:37:54] your kitchen door. The t-Rex.

[2:37:55] >> Comm. Doherty: Thank you,

[2:37:56] MR. CHAIRMAN. Yeah. As far as

[2:37:58] the per day get get just that.

[2:38:00] But I would say the larger

[2:38:00] spaces, it might make sense to

[2:38:01] break that up and have these

[2:38:03] 2, you know, they have the

[2:38:07] right for the largest bases,

[2:38:07] the smaller ones them eating

[2:38:11] sweets in the conference room.

[2:38:12] Quite honestly, you gonna get

[2:38:12] hourly people there. So I

[2:38:14] think we do need that broken

[2:38:18] down per hour as well. But you

[2:38:19] have the to the full day

[2:38:19] numbers. Look, looks

[2:38:21] fantastic. I mean, I'm good

[2:38:22] with them. But I do think we

[2:38:23] do. And and of course, of the

[2:38:26] comments underneath the

[2:38:27] building bring that back

[2:38:27] eventually. But so you can

[2:38:28] comment to people while we're

[2:38:32] on break. You know, in AUGUST.

[2:38:32] I think this scheduled find

[2:38:36] except just. Break it up and

[2:38:37] half days for the large spaces

[2:38:41] and hourly on those 2, the c

[2:38:42] and d space agree with those

[2:38:43] comments. Commissioner Truex,

[2:38:43] you're recognized, sir. Thank

[2:38:47] you, MR. CHAIRMAN, I need you

[2:38:48] have tell you, I do your job

[2:38:49] that will point out a few

[2:38:52] things. Make sure everybody

[2:38:53] understands we go a half days.

[2:38:53] There's going to turn over

[2:38:54] time. They're going to clean

[2:38:55] the route. Prep it for

[2:38:58] whoever's coming in next.

[2:38:59] >> Comm. Truex: So you're

[2:39:00] going to have to design with

[2:39:00] that have to actually looks

[2:39:01] like now because he's going to

[2:39:03] start at 9 11, 30 and then

[2:39:05] that person can come into 1

[2:39:06] o'clock or, you know, how

[2:39:07] account flexibility can you

[2:39:10] have with that? The the other

[2:39:11] thing is with the bigger

[2:39:13] rooms. I think it depends on

[2:39:14] the the number of people and

[2:39:16] what the event is as to

[2:39:17] whether or not you're going to

[2:39:18] be able to do to events in the

[2:39:20] day on some of these bigger

[2:39:21] rooms. I were going to provide

[2:39:22] you some flexibility, but we

[2:39:25] can provide have to be rates

[2:39:26] to have to should be more than

[2:39:28] half of the full-day, right?

[2:39:28] Right. It's got to be more

[2:39:29] help cover for the turnover

[2:39:31] intellect and stuff. 2 point,

[2:39:34] which is why we went to the

[2:39:35] full day I understand that.

[2:39:38] But understand where the board

[2:39:39] sounds like to go. And I don't

[2:39:40] necessarily agree or disagree.

[2:39:40] I just know that logistically

[2:39:43] it's going to be an issue and

[2:39:44] that you MAY have to come back

[2:39:44] to us and say, look, this is

[2:39:47] working.

[2:39:47] >> Well, and again, if the

[2:39:51] direction of the board is to

[2:39:51] provide a half-day to full-day

[2:39:52] and we can only rent it for a

[2:39:54] half day and then have to sit

[2:39:55] vacant because we didn't have

[2:39:57] the ability to flip it and

[2:39:57] find another user. Then we'll

[2:39:59] just get the half-day rate. We

[2:40:02] will get a full day rate

[2:40:03] right? But what we can

[2:40:04] implement anything that will

[2:40:07] tell if you want us to do. But

[2:40:07] 20 that that was the

[2:40:08] rationale, specifically why we

[2:40:11] went to the larger full day

[2:40:12] but yeah, we we can do it. It

[2:40:14] just it will potentially

[2:40:17] create a position where we're

[2:40:18] only reading Half-days right

[2:40:19] instead of potentially getting

[2:40:21] a full. That's what needs to

[2:40:21] be. We need to have higher

[2:40:23] number than what we think for

[2:40:24] half a day because we're going

[2:40:25] to lose efficiencies and we're

[2:40:28] going to lose ability for

[2:40:28] full-day certain.

[2:40:29] >> Situations might have to be

[2:40:33] like a half a day premium some

[2:40:34] commissioner Constance into

[2:40:35] yet. I agree, you know, I

[2:40:36] think right, if you cut it in

[2:40:38] half its not have too many

[2:40:39] money, there's going to be an

[2:40:40] additional, you know, kicker

[2:40:40] that you've got to work in

[2:40:44] because of a low of turning

[2:40:44] over.

[2:40:45] >> And then there probably

[2:40:46] should be a minimum per hour.

[2:40:46] Don't just divide by 8 or

[2:40:50] whatever the number is for the

[2:40:51] smaller, you know, rooms, bc

[2:40:52] meeting, Sweet. And that's the

[2:40:54] smaller amount of the room.

[2:40:55] Conference, you know, you MAY

[2:40:56] have to it MAY have to still

[2:40:58] be $50 an hour. Something I

[2:40:59] don't know what your you've

[2:41:00] got to charge, what it's

[2:41:02] costing you. So you know, I

[2:41:03] get in somebody's looking go

[2:41:04] if it's 15, our guests already

[2:41:05] for the whole day, but give

[2:41:07] them the opportunity to to to

[2:41:10] apply for at least a fraction.

[2:41:10] >> And you know, everybody

[2:41:12] would be that. Thank Thank

[2:41:15] Commissioner recognized define

[2:41:20] a de force.

[2:41:21] >> are in our intention is is

[2:41:23] we will do a day so you can

[2:41:24] have it from the sun up to the

[2:41:25] sun down. If that's what you

[2:41:28] want, you can go into the

[2:41:29] evening. There's hours in a

[2:41:30] day where women don't have any

[2:41:33] guidelines on specifically

[2:41:34] what someone wants to have a

[2:41:35] breakfast they can get in

[2:41:39] there at 06:00am. No. And to

[2:41:39] that point, yes. So to that,

[2:41:41] yes, we have liked the sailing

[2:41:42] club, right? They do there.

[2:41:43] Got have done their regain

[2:41:46] their sailing regatta there in

[2:41:47] the past. They started early

[2:41:48] right and they get breakfast

[2:41:49] is part of their function. We

[2:41:50] have people that are doing

[2:41:50] weddings until the middle of

[2:41:52] the night right? So we want to

[2:41:56] be as flexible as we can. We

[2:41:57] were really the again, we can

[2:41:58] slice up the rates, however we

[2:42:00] want. But yeah, we're want to

[2:42:01] be as amenable is

[2:42:03] accommodating to event

[2:42:04] producers on whatever they

[2:42:05] need to be in. If they want

[2:42:05] early. Great. If they want

[2:42:08] late. Great. Then I think

[2:42:10] you're going to have to define

[2:42:12] your portions of a day by

[2:42:13] hours because you're going to

[2:42:15] have some groups. But you know

[2:42:20] what the breakfast coming this

[2:42:20] week?

[2:42:21] >> Comm. Deutsch: You know,

[2:42:22] they probably will want to

[2:42:22] have its the breakfast is

[2:42:23] going to be 7, 7.30. They're

[2:42:24] going to want to have access

[2:42:26] to 06:00am someone's having a

[2:42:27] New Year's Eve party, they're

[2:42:29] going to want to go to 1

[2:42:30] o'clock in the morning. So I

[2:42:33] think you're going to need

[2:42:34] some defying guidelines in

[2:42:35] terms of an hour and then

[2:42:37] break it up into segments

[2:42:38] because if someone wants to

[2:42:42] have a breakfast. There

[2:42:43] shouldn't be any is going to

[2:42:44] have an afternoon meeting

[2:42:45] because the breakfast people

[2:42:47] will be out of that 10, 11

[2:42:48] o'clock. You could have it

[2:42:52] ready for something at 12. 1

[2:42:53] o'clock. And is an afternoon

[2:42:55] meeting there and someone

[2:42:56] wanted to have a dinner That

[2:42:57] could also word. I think we

[2:43:01] might make sense. It's a take.

[2:43:03] An our peer group of span of

[2:43:06] hours and then break it into

[2:43:07] segments. And then, you know,

[2:43:10] you read by that now you have

[2:43:11] to decide because I don't know

[2:43:15] what to recommend. Is an

[2:43:17] evening event worth more per

[2:43:18] hour than a breakfast of I

[2:43:19] don't know the answer to that,

[2:43:20] but I think you're going to

[2:43:23] want some equity in terms of

[2:43:24] the available hours, but I'm

[2:43:25] sure they're going to have

[2:43:26] people that are going want to

[2:43:30] get in there 06:00am. And you

[2:43:31] know that we have some other

[2:43:32] things to deal with based on

[2:43:33] the type of an event later,

[2:43:36] you're going to let them go.

[2:43:37] Would you let them go to one

[2:43:39] or 2 o'clock in the morning?

[2:43:43] For a Let's say so. I think

[2:43:44] you've got a little bit more

[2:43:46] depth, the Jenin, because

[2:43:47] you're going to have some

[2:43:50] unique situations come up. So

[2:43:51] thank you for your comments. I

[2:43:52] appreciate that discharge for

[2:43:56] me. These are professional

[2:43:57] recommendations based upon the

[2:43:57] review of comparable Ys in a 3

[2:44:01] county area.

[2:44:02] >> If you don't think this is

[2:44:03] going to work out well for the

[2:44:04] community, we can just stick

[2:44:05] with an hourly rate that we're

[2:44:09] charging in just a square him

[2:44:10] We can make this work. I don't

[2:44:11] you think that this is like

[2:44:12] we're trying to shoehorn this.

[2:44:13] And when you ask about like

[2:44:15] morning or night, this is why

[2:44:16] there is a proposed one rate

[2:44:19] for the day to not make it as

[2:44:22] complicated as it can be. When

[2:44:23] you start adding different

[2:44:24] layers into it, it adds

[2:44:27] complexities to the users. How

[2:44:28] how much they are trying to

[2:44:31] you know, prepare their

[2:44:31] budgeting for high only to 4

[2:44:35] hours compared to. This is the

[2:44:37] simplistic most professional

[2:44:38] way of doing it. This is the

[2:44:40] way most of it facilities

[2:44:41] produce. Their rate schedule

[2:44:43] is on this. It's either on a

[2:44:44] day rate on an hourly basis.

[2:44:46] We are recommending a day for

[2:44:46] the east of everyone, but an

[2:44:48] hourly can be just as easy. I

[2:44:49] mean, if if you would like it

[2:44:51] to stick hourly, we have 100%

[2:44:53] can do that. That's that's not

[2:44:53] that difficult for us to do. I

[2:44:55] think you're going to have to

[2:44:56] have an open mind on that. The

[2:45:00] reason why is?

[2:45:01] >> Comm. Deutsch: There are

[2:45:01] certain groups that I'm aware

[2:45:02] of that least a half a dozen

[2:45:05] that have breakfast, they're

[2:45:06] not going want to be there in

[2:45:09] the And if you have someone to

[2:45:12] a breakfast and route of their

[2:45:13] 10 11 or 10, 30 11, you might

[2:45:15] be able to have a lunch and or

[2:45:17] isn't of the same day. And if

[2:45:19] this is going to be some type

[2:45:20] of profit center to some

[2:45:21] degree that it's going to help

[2:45:23] pay back the cost of the

[2:45:24] operation. It might be a

[2:45:27] little bit more staff time.

[2:45:28] What if you could rent it out

[2:45:28] for breakfast, lunch and

[2:45:31] supper to 3 different groups.

[2:45:35] It's going to financially be

[2:45:37] greater benefit to your

[2:45:38] operation, but obviously

[2:45:39] requires some staff cleanup

[2:45:42] time. But I think you're going

[2:45:43] to be flexible because of I

[2:45:45] was running an evening dinner

[2:45:47] or breakfast in the morning. I

[2:45:48] really wouldn't want to have

[2:45:49] to pay for the whole thing all

[2:45:50] day. If I know I'm going to be

[2:45:53] out of every 3 hours. So I

[2:45:54] think you might want to take a

[2:45:56] deeper dive and take a look

[2:45:57] those possibilities,

[2:46:00] particularly. If you could

[2:46:00] have 2 or 3 events of the day

[2:46:02] and make them work and have

[2:46:03] the staff or make them work

[2:46:06] that. You come out. If you

[2:46:07] come out a few bucks ahead,

[2:46:08] which I think is part of the

[2:46:10] goal. Thank you, Sir.

[2:46:15] Commissioner Constance, thank

[2:46:15] you.

[2:46:16] >> Comm. Constance: The time

[2:46:17] is your intention for this

[2:46:17] facility to be open. 24 hours

[2:46:19] a day, 7 days a week.

[2:46:20] >> That's what the renters

[2:46:21] need. We're willing to meet

[2:46:21] whatever the committee wants

[2:46:25] us to It.

[2:46:26] >> Comm. Constance: And I

[2:46:27] guess you just see the fine is

[2:46:30] is a day 06:00am to 06:00am.

[2:46:30] >> Or

[2:46:31] >> Comm. Constance: midnight

[2:46:32] to midnight. You know what?

[2:46:33] What is what is the day don't

[2:46:36] answer that. Now. Look back at

[2:46:37] the programming to make it

[2:46:38] fit. You know, I would assume

[2:46:39] that he's really going to be

[2:46:40] there before 06:00am. So maybe

[2:46:43] that's when the day starts and

[2:46:43] late events that go past

[2:46:44] midnight aren't going to

[2:46:48] finish much past one or 2. So

[2:46:49] but I think that's part of the

[2:46:49] calculus that we need to

[2:46:51] understand how are you? How is

[2:46:53] that being programmed to fit

[2:46:57] this? We're Just curious, but

[2:47:00] no, I don't have an issue. I

[2:47:01] think simplicity because then

[2:47:02] you've got to have somebody

[2:47:02] sitting there and figuring

[2:47:04] this all out unless you want

[2:47:05] to leave it to an ai bot. Will

[2:47:08] the to your point earlier of

[2:47:08] you want the customer to have

[2:47:09] the ability to kind of sell

[2:47:13] for do it themselves.

[2:47:14] >> Comm. Constance: More

[2:47:15] layers makes it more difficult

[2:47:15] and cumbersome for a user to

[2:47:16] do that navigate themselves as

[2:47:21] well. And so I'm trying to

[2:47:22] take as many fevers notice

[2:47:23] possible because I heard a lot

[2:47:27] of different feedback. Tried

[2:47:29] it. I don't have a consensus.

[2:47:30] Nasa, some working on likely

[2:47:32] is that you still have the

[2:47:32] floor. But was everybody ok

[2:47:35] with the dynamic pricing?

[2:47:40] >> Just to put that out there.

[2:47:40] Which was a Monday through

[2:47:41] Thursday, one rate Friday,

[2:47:42] Saturday, Sunday, a different

[2:47:43] rate. That's that's we. Yeah.

[2:47:45] I mean, If your constant use

[2:47:50] use No, I appreciate the

[2:47:50] research does. This is this is

[2:47:51] based on factual stuff. Not

[2:47:52] hey, we just pull this out of

[2:47:53] the air. So that's important

[2:47:54] with the bases.

[2:47:58] >> Comm. Constance: It all

[2:47:58] makes sense. And I just think

[2:47:59] you've heard you've heard the

[2:48:00] comments. I don't know that

[2:48:01] I'm ready to vote on this. I'd

[2:48:02] like you to bring we have

[2:48:02] time. You know, you bring it

[2:48:04] back. But, you know, take the

[2:48:07] comments that have been made

[2:48:08] and let's try to make. But I

[2:48:10] understand the more complex it

[2:48:13] is the war work. It is for one

[2:48:13] or 2 of your staff to kind of

[2:48:17] keep this all figured out. So.

[2:48:18] And come back, please with

[2:48:20] with some technology options

[2:48:20] because I think that's

[2:48:22] important. If there's a way to

[2:48:26] to free up rooms with, you

[2:48:27] know, digital locks as opposed

[2:48:28] to you got to have somebody

[2:48:29] there unless somebody is

[2:48:30] there. 24 7, but that's that's

[2:48:32] another story that's that's 3

[2:48:33] fte that have and the

[2:48:38] building.

[2:48:38] >> Well, it definitely will

[2:48:39] take more than 3 ft in the

[2:48:41] building, but we have not

[2:48:42] built what you're proposing

[2:48:44] into the model. So any of

[2:48:45] those upgrades or additions to

[2:48:46] the building are going to have

[2:48:48] to come as and additional

[2:48:49] technology package. So I don't

[2:48:50] know that will be able to

[2:48:54] bring that at the next time. I

[2:48:55] bring back rates anybody else?

[2:49:00] But that I guess find really

[2:49:01] per se in the event world.

[2:49:01] Again, let's just use the

[2:49:02] event center as an example,

[2:49:03] right when you're in a space

[2:49:03] that the event center, you go

[2:49:05] to an event event center. The

[2:49:06] staff there open the doors.

[2:49:10] They make sure that everything

[2:49:12] from custodial to security to

[2:49:14] they're doing fnb as food and

[2:49:15] beverage. So they're doing all

[2:49:15] of those pieces. And then when

[2:49:16] you leave, they locked the

[2:49:19] door behind you right? That is

[2:49:20] the service that's provided

[2:49:21] because these are event

[2:49:22] spaces, right? It's not a

[2:49:23] pavilion where you're just

[2:49:24] going to have a birthday

[2:49:27] party. You're going in to have

[2:49:28] a wedding for 500 people that

[2:49:28] is going to be catered and

[2:49:29] have a sit-down plated event,

[2:49:33] right? So it's a it's a little

[2:49:33] bit different of a model than

[2:49:34] some of the things that are

[2:49:37] doing. I mean, we have if

[2:49:38] somebody wants to rent a park

[2:49:40] space or pavilion, you 100%

[2:49:41] can go online. Rent that

[2:49:42] space. Get your permit and

[2:49:43] never have to interact with

[2:49:46] any of our staff right. But

[2:49:47] the difference between that

[2:49:49] and what we're providing at at

[2:49:50] this event facility. It's just

[2:49:53] light years apart. I have to

[2:49:53] do a whole lot of research to

[2:49:55] figure out any other event

[2:49:56] producing space is doing what

[2:49:57] you're proposing. I just don't

[2:49:59] know when you if you if you

[2:50:00] have this facility in essence,

[2:50:03] open 24 hours a day, 7 a week

[2:50:08] at minimum, you have to have 3

[2:50:08] people.

[2:50:09] >> Comm. Constance: 8 hour

[2:50:10] shifts for the entire week.

[2:50:10] Somebody if one person is

[2:50:12] there, that's 3 ft East just

[2:50:13] to keep the building open. So

[2:50:13] let me just right. Trent

[2:50:15] clarified a little bit.

[2:50:17] >> We are willing to do. I

[2:50:18] anticipate that we're going to

[2:50:19] run 24 hours a day, 7 days a

[2:50:23] week. Absolutely not. But to

[2:50:23] Commissioner Dortches point,

[2:50:24] we have somebody who wants to

[2:50:25] a breakfast and we have

[2:50:25] somebody who wants to have

[2:50:27] until 2 in the morning.

[2:50:29] There's a dynamic that goes

[2:50:30] there. We probably and I know

[2:50:31] this is a fact. We don't get a

[2:50:32] lot of 02:00am rentals that

[2:50:33] are Monday, Tuesday,

[2:50:36] Wednesday, right? But that

[2:50:37] doesn't mean if somebody came

[2:50:38] in and wanted to do with that,

[2:50:40] we would be willing to. So I

[2:50:40] don't want you to think that

[2:50:42] we are preparing and staffing

[2:50:43] to work. 24 hours a day, 7

[2:50:46] days a week 3.65. We are just

[2:50:47] willing to work with our

[2:50:48] customers to meet whatever

[2:50:50] their needs and desires are.

[2:50:52] So we're not geared up to do

[2:50:55] that. But if an event came in

[2:50:56] said we want load in it for to

[2:50:57] do a 06:00am breakfast to be

[2:51:00] out of that. We're willing to

[2:51:01] work with our customers,

[2:51:02] period. Thank thank you. I put

[2:51:06] myself into queue when you did

[2:51:06] your comparison to the other

[2:51:08] counties, define what a day

[2:51:12] was, wasn't limited to like 8

[2:51:13] hours, whether was started no

[2:51:14] matter what time it started, 8

[2:51:17] hours is considered a day. So

[2:51:20] I did as one of the

[2:51:21] attachments attach the

[2:51:22] comparable benchmarking that

[2:51:24] we put in there. So I'm just

[2:51:25] don't want go And a teenager

[2:51:25] comparable have half day

[2:51:30] rentals. I don't believe that.

[2:51:36] I remember half day rentals. I

[2:51:36] do believe it's day or days or

[2:51:40] some had hours, but it's a

[2:51:42] matter here's some of the head

[2:51:42] of a four-hour max so that

[2:51:43] when they could turn quicker,

[2:51:46] okay. Because I assume you do

[2:51:47] not reinventing the wheel

[2:51:48] here. All these other event

[2:51:49] spaces that were comparable.

[2:51:52] Must've come up against, you

[2:51:53] know, hourly half-day. What's

[2:51:57] today? And you had mentioned

[2:51:58] early, you have people waiting

[2:51:58] to lease up is correct. And I

[2:52:03] don't want to the labor this

[2:52:04] thing much longer when we're

[2:52:05] losing out on rentals getting

[2:52:06] booked up. But I also want to

[2:52:10] do it correctly. I appreciate

[2:52:11] the advisory board

[2:52:13] recommending the schedule. I

[2:52:14] don't I don't necessarily

[2:52:14] district this. I don't

[2:52:16] disagree with the schedule. My

[2:52:17] only issue, my one big issue

[2:52:19] is how do we handle the

[2:52:20] bottom, which you can come

[2:52:20] back later? That's fine on

[2:52:24] that. In the affordability to

[2:52:25] get to a half a day, if

[2:52:25] somebody is literally meeting

[2:52:27] for 2 hours, I think you can

[2:52:31] sell them on a half a day. If

[2:52:32] that's, you know, what do you

[2:52:33] consider half a 24 hours a

[2:52:35] day, do they get it for 12 day

[2:52:36] hours? Is that a half a day?

[2:52:38] They see that. That's the

[2:52:40] thing. Those are my only 2

[2:52:45] issues right now is getting

[2:52:45] too being able to lease for

[2:52:47] less than a day. And how we

[2:52:50] handle the bottom. But we do

[2:52:54] need to do. Get this back

[2:52:54] before the board as soon as

[2:52:55] possible. So you can start

[2:52:56] renting up because we're going

[2:52:57] to be losing out on on rentals

[2:52:58] because we don't have a

[2:53:01] schedule. So we need, you

[2:53:02] know, we don't have an

[2:53:03] approved schedule. Yes, that

[2:53:03] is correct. So it's hard to to

[2:53:06] lease up. Unless unless you

[2:53:09] take deposits the final

[2:53:12] schedule just to reserve. So

[2:53:13] the people that have been

[2:53:15] talking to us are unwilling to

[2:53:16] do that until they know what

[2:53:17] the rental rates are going to

[2:53:19] be because they don't want to

[2:53:20] put a deposit down and work

[2:53:23] towards a wedding location

[2:53:24] that we're going to come back

[2:53:25] in SEPTEMBER OCTOBER and tell

[2:53:26] them that the rate is

[2:53:28] different. Even if they know

[2:53:29] having watched this or

[2:53:30] whatever, that this is the

[2:53:32] range, that that might be a

[2:53:34] change, a nexus for them that

[2:53:34] they've last month's book of

[2:53:35] another venue when when is the

[2:53:37] soon as they try to get

[2:53:39] JANUARY, we are not looking to

[2:53:41] start booking in until

[2:53:43] probably MARCH APRIL as what

[2:53:44] we're looking at But we have

[2:53:45] been asked, we've had people

[2:53:48] start asking us as far out as

[2:53:49] a year in advance, which is

[2:53:50] what we typically will book

[2:53:51] out as a year out. So this

[2:53:53] past MARCH and APRIL, people

[2:53:54] seeing it come out of the

[2:53:55] ground, want to know when they

[2:53:56] could start renting and we

[2:53:58] said we won't rent until we

[2:54:00] have board approved for in all

[2:54:01] it. No one's looking to get in

[2:54:02] there in JANUARY, FEBRUARY.

[2:54:03] We're we're okay. Okay. That's

[2:54:06] good to know. That's good to

[2:54:07] know. But I'm ok generally

[2:54:09] with this proposed fee

[2:54:09] schedule other than those

[2:54:10] things that have already

[2:54:11] stated, Commissioner Truex

[2:54:14] recognized. MR. I'm gonna make

[2:54:15] a motion make a motion that we

[2:54:16] approve what's in front of us

[2:54:17] today and we add modifications

[2:54:18] to it. So anybody who wants to

[2:54:20] do a day rental now?

[2:54:21] >> Comm. Constance: They can

[2:54:24] schedule to tighten and then

[2:54:25] we'll figure out the half day

[2:54:27] in the downstairs future date.

[2:54:28] Beautiful idea. I second was

[2:54:32] to it. Yeah.

[2:54:33] >> Comm. Tiseo: So we have

[2:54:34] motion a second to accept. The

[2:54:34] proposed fee schedule has

[2:54:35] outlined to come back with

[2:54:36] modifications at a later date.

[2:54:38] Is there any further

[2:54:39] discussion? There any

[2:54:42] opposition to the motion

[2:54:42] passes 4 to one with

[2:54:46] Commissioner Deutsche, an

[2:54:46] opposition. Thank you, Tommy.

[2:54:48] Thank you. All right. We're

[2:54:49] we're going to move on to item

[2:54:50] 5 approved the resolution

[2:54:54] lifting the burn ban. Are

[2:54:57] burn. Bans are CHAIRMAN I

[2:54:59] think we need to bring Chief

[2:55:01] Cara. So he has an easy day

[2:55:03] and for the board asked what

[2:55:04] have It's going to be in of

[2:55:06] the burn bans are is here

[2:55:07] today. You're recognize chief

[2:55:08] to present a chart here yet.

[2:55:10] >> Let's see if we get it this

[2:55:10] time.

[2:55:17] >> I see if I can get good.

[2:55:18] >> Comm. Tiseo: chief wakes up

[2:55:18] every morning rolls the dice

[2:55:19] burn ban or no burn from

[2:55:24] Vancouver. Yeah. All right. So

[2:55:24] what's great about this is the

[2:55:26] upstart chief backward for the

[2:55:26] record. So the great part

[2:55:27] about this is the numbers of

[2:55:29] keep coming down with all the

[2:55:29] rain that we have. So make

[2:55:32] this quick for you. You can

[2:55:35] obviously stop me at any time

[2:55:36] currently the average was at

[2:55:39] right around 4.41. At this

[2:55:40] date today, the kbi values

[2:55:43] actually 3.41. This morning.

[2:55:44] So that's a good, good number

[2:55:45] for us as opposed to what it

[2:55:48] was back then what we heard

[2:55:50] last time or what Chief Kerr

[2:55:50] heard last time. And I did on

[2:55:54] the Facebook as I watched it

[2:55:55] was the you wanted more

[2:55:56] information. So this breaks

[2:55:57] down the information a little

[2:56:00] bit better for you guys for

[2:56:00] the board. So you can see how

[2:56:04] the numbers hold up.

[2:56:05] Currently, we only have one

[2:56:08] that that number is not 19.

[2:56:09] Currently. It's only 3% in

[2:56:11] that 500 range. And that's

[2:56:13] change from West County to

[2:56:17] more of an East County area.

[2:56:17] Then we talk about the people

[2:56:21] from a drought 146,000, almost

[2:56:22] 147,000. And then we talk

[2:56:28] about the 92%, 30, 30st drip,

[2:56:28] dry JUNE and record for us. So

[2:56:31] we know it's been dry in JUNE.

[2:56:33] We're getting our water back

[2:56:34] from now. The rain is

[2:56:35] currently and then as you see,

[2:56:36] we're down about 2 inches from

[2:56:39] that. So keep going. You have

[2:56:44] be fast. You go okay. All As

[2:56:46] you know, we had dry dry JUNE

[2:56:46] and moving into the JULY.

[2:56:49] We've got a lot of rain not

[2:56:50] near as much as out West are

[2:56:51] up north, but we are getting

[2:56:54] the rain that we need. It's

[2:56:55] going to be hot. Obviously

[2:56:56] we're looking at that and then

[2:57:00] burn bans all of that counties

[2:57:00] around us have lifted their

[2:57:01] burn bans. A DeSoto was last

[2:57:02] won a lift. There is back in

[2:57:07] edge 2 weeks ago in JULY 14th,

[2:57:08] the only county that's near

[2:57:10] U.S. Test would be hills where

[2:57:10] which typically stays on a

[2:57:14] burn ban the entire time. So

[2:57:17] we're looking for you to

[2:57:18] rescind the burn ban. 3rd,

[2:57:18] Time's a charm. As I think

[2:57:21] someone said week ago. Current

[2:57:25] value is 3.41. Today and that

[2:57:26] for 15. So we would like any

[2:57:32] information on that. Thanks or

[2:57:32] Commissioner Doherty.

[2:57:33] >> Although only had one

[2:57:34] injury to my house in the last

[2:57:34] 2 weeks, a move approval of

[2:57:35] the resolution to second

[2:57:36] motion. A second admissions

[2:57:39] director that okay, any

[2:57:39] further discussion any app

[2:57:42] says the motion that passes

[2:57:43] unanimously the burn ban is

[2:57:45] rescinded. Okay. We'll move on

[2:57:48] to item number 6. Thank you,

[2:57:49] chief. Yes, we move on to item

[2:57:53] number 6, the animal, but

[2:57:53] getting Hector, I was going

[2:57:54] speak on numbers the next.

[2:57:55] Okay. Animal Welfare League

[2:57:57] item number 6, MR. Flores,

[2:57:57] you're recognized. Okay. Thank

[2:58:03] you. MISTER Chair

[2:58:04] >> Comm. Constance: the art

[2:58:04] speak earlier, tariff from

[2:58:05] animal Welfare league kind of

[2:58:08] touched on So I appreciate her

[2:58:10] comments. The item we did

[2:58:11] revise it up. See for the

[2:58:12] change memo added the

[2:58:13] amendment. Number one of the

[2:58:14] agreement we felt it was best

[2:58:18] just to make sure we formalize

[2:58:20] the extension had offered up

[2:58:21] in our in negotiations and

[2:58:21] discussions with them. So

[2:58:24] that's what that item is. Just

[2:58:25] to add, though, we are

[2:58:27] shooting for bringing a final

[2:58:27] agreement to you at their

[2:58:31] SEPTEMBER 8th board meeting. I

[2:58:31] believe we'll get there. I

[2:58:34] know our team just got some of

[2:58:35] their responses. So they're

[2:58:37] they're reviewing that as we

[2:58:39] speak. And at times outright

[2:58:41] your other agenda item, you

[2:58:42] adjusted our fine or first

[2:58:43] budget public hearing will now

[2:58:44] be Monday, SEPTEMBER 14th that

[2:58:47] following Monday. So right now

[2:58:50] we've got just the current

[2:58:52] contract with with Animal

[2:58:54] Welfare league. So any

[2:58:54] adjustment why would want to

[2:58:55] make going into that final

[2:58:59] budget public hearing? So?

[2:58:59] >> Again, bring it to you is

[2:59:01] our goal for SEPTEMBER 8. So

[2:59:02] again, appreciate the team in

[2:59:03] animal Welfare Really the

[2:59:05] folks that have been doing,

[2:59:06] obviously the the heavy

[2:59:08] lifting on our end. I want to

[2:59:08] defer some of that. Thanks and

[2:59:13] appreciation to Chief McIlroy

[2:59:14] Division manager, Caitlin, so

[2:59:15] that they've got their work to

[2:59:16] finalize. But that sits up

[2:59:17] embracing what we're looking

[2:59:18] for. Thank you, sir. To have a

[2:59:20] motion to approve amendment

[2:59:20] one to the U.S. Really so move

[2:59:21] second. We have motion second

[2:59:22] to approve manager. Any

[2:59:23] further discussion.

[2:59:28] >> Any absence, the motion

[2:59:28] that passes unanimously move

[2:59:29] on to item number 7, Charlotte

[2:59:30] County Sheriff's Office

[2:59:32] funding opportunity. MR.

[2:59:33] Arthur, you're recognize that

[2:59:36] afternoon as of right now,

[2:59:41] Rick Arthur, fiscal services.

[2:59:42] The sheriff is identified in

[2:59:42] additional funding

[2:59:43] opportunities. So we're just

[2:59:44] bringing a resolution

[2:59:45] authorizing the county

[2:59:46] administrator to apply for

[2:59:47] this doj grant on behalf of

[2:59:48] the share. Any questions for

[2:59:51] staff? Commissioner, do

[2:59:52] recognize move the resolutions

[2:59:52] motion second move resolution?

[2:59:53] Is there any further

[2:59:55] discussion? Is there any

[2:59:59] opposition to the motion that

[3:00:00] passes? You know, Matt

[3:00:02] unanimously moving on to item

[3:00:02] number 8, set a public hearing

[3:00:04] to consider approving an

[3:00:04] ordinance to prohibit

[3:00:05] oversized vehicles parking on

[3:00:06] the county right of way, MR.

[3:00:10] Flores. Did you have any

[3:00:11] comments on that are going to

[3:00:16] present no? I think that it

[3:00:18] was just said that I can speak

[3:00:19] to it ok, we have we have

[3:00:20] major issues in areas where we

[3:00:24] have tractor trailers and

[3:00:25] >> and bigger. Huge parking in

[3:00:25] right away where you can't see

[3:00:26] it around corners. It's a

[3:00:29] growing problem. Charlotte

[3:00:30] County and public works in

[3:00:31] legal put together. Those were

[3:00:32] the opportunity to bring this

[3:00:33] to a close and I would move

[3:00:37] approval of scent. Okay. That

[3:00:38] we have motion is second to

[3:00:39] approve the item. Is there any

[3:00:43] further discussion?

[3:00:44] Commissioner Constance?

[3:00:44] >> Comm. Constance: I'm

[3:00:45] appreciative of this and agree

[3:00:46] with the moving forward. Also,

[3:00:46] there's a lot of trucks that

[3:00:51] are just parking on the street

[3:00:51] and unloading. And so I I look

[3:00:54] to the sheriff and

[3:00:55] >> and chief deputy to keep

[3:00:57] doing a good job of citing

[3:01:02] those trucks. They just.

[3:01:03] >> Comm. Constance: Youve got

[3:01:03] small roads and you can see

[3:01:04] past them in the year. All you

[3:01:05] have to go over a double

[3:01:08] yellow line. It's absolutely

[3:01:08] illegal to be parking, not

[3:01:12] just to the right away in the

[3:01:12] street and it's around a lot

[3:01:13] of our industrial facility.

[3:01:14] Lot of our health care

[3:01:15] facilities. So we've got to

[3:01:19] make sure that we've got

[3:01:19] better enforcement and they

[3:01:20] they got to show up sort of

[3:01:21] toward the afternoon. The

[3:01:22] trucks are there every single

[3:01:23] day. It's just got to stop.

[3:01:25] And we got him. Big fines. So

[3:01:30] thank Disagree with that. Any

[3:01:30] further discussion?

[3:01:31] >> Comm. Tiseo: Any opposition

[3:01:31] to the motion that passes

[3:01:32] unanimously. We're gonna move

[3:01:33] onto t one, which is our 3rd

[3:01:34] quarter budget adjustments.

[3:01:39] Mrrt recognized to present.

[3:01:40] Good afternoon. Commissioners

[3:01:41] regard their fiscal services.

[3:01:43] As you know, fiscal services

[3:01:45] monitors the budget on ongoing

[3:01:46] basis throughout the fiscal

[3:01:48] year and quarterly. We bring

[3:01:50] back any necessary adjustments

[3:01:53] to the board for approval and

[3:01:55] review. And so this is our 3rd

[3:01:56] quarter budget adjustments for

[3:01:57] fiscal year 26. Any questions

[3:02:01] for staff? I'm hoping to sign

[3:02:01] up to the public. Anybody

[3:02:02] wishing speak on this item.

[3:02:04] Please come forward. You'll

[3:02:04] have 5 minutes. Anybody from

[3:02:06] the public wishing to speak on

[3:02:08] item t one 3rd quarter budget

[3:02:08] adjustments. Please come

[3:02:13] forward. You have 5 minutes.

[3:02:14] MR. Rising move close, public

[3:02:15] input so motion seconded close

[3:02:15] public input. Is there any

[3:02:18] further discussion? Turning

[3:02:22] out motion? Public input is

[3:02:23] closed, MR. CHAIRMAN move the

[3:02:23] resolution that we have motion

[3:02:24] second to move resolution. Is

[3:02:27] there any further discussion?

[3:02:28] Is there any opposition to the

[3:02:30] motion that passes unanimously

[3:02:31] move on to item t 3

[3:02:32] conservation? Charlotte

[3:02:32] Renewal resolution and

[3:02:35] referendum.

[3:02:45] >> Good afternoon.

[3:02:46] Commissioners Tina Powel

[3:02:49] Park's natural resources

[3:02:50] manager few weeks back. I came

[3:02:51] and presented an update on

[3:02:52] conservation Charlotte as well

[3:02:53] as the proposed ballot

[3:02:56] language. As for the renewal.

[3:02:57] And this is our public hearing

[3:02:59] to approve the ballot language

[3:03:00] and the resolution that puts

[3:03:01] that on the ballot this

[3:03:06] NOVEMBER. Any questions for

[3:03:06] staff?

[3:03:07] >> Comm. Tiseo: An open this

[3:03:08] up to the public for public

[3:03:08] comment. Anybody from the

[3:03:09] public wishing to speak on

[3:03:10] this item? You'll have 5

[3:03:10] minutes. Please come forward

[3:03:11] state. Your name for the

[3:03:12] record. Anybody wishing to

[3:03:15] speak on item t 3. Please come

[3:03:16] forward. You'll have 5 minutes

[3:03:17] state your name for the

[3:03:17] record, MR. CHAIRMAN us, you

[3:03:20] know, when rising moved close,

[3:03:21] public input. So remotest

[3:03:22] motion in a second to close

[3:03:23] public input. Is there any

[3:03:24] further discussion? There any

[3:03:28] opposition to the motion? That

[3:03:29] passes unanimously public

[3:03:29] input is closed, MR. CHAIRMAN

[3:03:32] move the resolution. Have a

[3:03:32] motion seconded the

[3:03:33] resolution. Is there any

[3:03:34] further discussion? Is there

[3:03:36] any opposition to the motion

[3:03:40] that passes unanimously?

[3:03:41] Gentlemen, we've completed our

[3:03:43] morning agenda. We are in

[3:03:44] recess recess until 01:00pm

[3:04:22] >> Comm. Tiseo: Go

[3:04:23] afternn, ladies and

[3:04:23] gentleman. Welco back to the

[3:04:24] Charlotte Countyoard of

[3:04:25] unty commissioners rular

[3:04:25] inand use meeting for

[3:04:27] esday, 7/28/20. Let the

[3:04:31] record show all commsioners

[3:04:32] are present. We'veow arrived

[3:04:35] at our 01:00pm pubc input.

[3:04:35] Any subject, abody wishing

[3:04:36] to address the brd during

[3:04:37] this portion of the eting

[3:04:37] mu state their name fothe

[3:04:40] reco remarks on any county

[3:04:42] lated subject of limited

[3:04:42] to 3 minutes and sha be

[3:04:44] dressed to the commission as

[3:04:44] a body and n to individual

[3:04:45] members will n be any

[3:04:47] scussion. And to sak.

[3:04:48] Plea come forward state ur

[3:04:50] nameor the record.

[3:05:08] >> Good afternn, MR.

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[3:05:22] from Florida Deptment of

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[3:05:25] years ago toredge the

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[3:06:06] achieved and the 3r

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[3:07:19] regulations at Florida

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[3:07:44] adsory board chair. An

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[3:07:51] staff to coopera better with

[3:07:55] the advisory board to save th

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[3:07:57] gitimate right to coider

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[3:08:01] posion is in the county'

[3:08:02] best entnce and we should be

[3:08:04] fully inrmed about it. Thank

[3:08:07] you. Thank you. Andishing

[3:08:08] eak. Please come forrd

[3:08:09] stat Your name for the

[3:08:23] record. Yohave 3 minutes.

[3:08:33] >> Aftnoon commissioners.

[3:08:38] Name Roy Ekeleri live in

[3:08:38] Babcock Ranch. I with the

[3:08:39] American Legion Postbout

[3:08:42] Coran pose for 15. I'm here

[3:08:46] today to speak to u all

[3:08:48] out 31 for old Farm use.

[3:08:50] As Amerin Legion memr. We

[3:08:52] ha brand new. We have not

[3:08:57] unable to start I'm not money

[3:08:58] to get opposed. Buthat

[3:08:59] ilding sitting o there

[3:09:00] ve been staying therfor 2

[3:09:02] yes without being used. We

[3:09:03] thought we wld come and

[3:09:03] asked if we could ve it.

[3:09:07] Either with Alice ojust take

[3:09:08] it oveto build out as our

[3:09:15] American Legion Po. As state

[3:09:17] Senator Albritton a

[3:09:18] ough Oliver. If we c have

[3:09:21] so money to build. He got as

[3:09:23] far as the governor'office.

[3:09:24] The gornor shot it down du

[3:09:26] to the ct he Making his

[3:09:32] budget. So. I ha talked to.

[3:09:37] E mmissioner here and he

[3:09:38] did good job trying to hp

[3:09:44] us. No call the

[3:09:45] adminirator's office.

[3:09:47] Message is nev return. Call.

[3:09:47] The otr day. What I was

[3:09:52] eating. Like it staurant. I

[3:09:56] got a call real tate stating

[3:09:57] that we couldn't ve it, that

[3:09:58] they were going tose it or

[3:10:00] stors in further

[3:10:01] investigation. I fou out

[3:10:04] th. The couy is deciding

[3:10:06] to tear down, bud a brand

[3:10:09] nefirehouse in that ar. I

[3:10:12] don't understand why. Because

[3:10:13] bcock Ranch is. And I

[3:10:14] understand living near theye

[3:10:15] going build another who fa

[3:10:19] else. Arlotte County. So

[3:10:21] at being said, I woullike

[3:10:25] to pose itYou all please

[3:10:28] look intit and letters. Have

[3:10:30] ito build out. We takcare

[3:10:34] ofhe. Veterans are we ha

[3:10:38] suppord the veterans there

[3:10:38] The H.O. Kitson and partners

[3:10:42] has. Let e their facilities

[3:10:45] for nothin We can't make

[3:10:49] money without hang a.

[3:10:54] Opposed to do thati have.

[3:10:55] Some handouthere for you

[3:10:59] all. I had ai'megally blind

[3:11:02] low vision its. 4 pages lon

[3:11:03] So whei found that out,

[3:11:10] for type up for you. So tt

[3:11:14] is. What Iould like to

[3:11:19] propose to the cmissioners.

[3:11:20] >> Thankou, sir. Thank you

[3:11:20] for commen. Thank you for

[3:11:23] your service. Ank you. My

[3:11:24] formation. He's on t

[3:11:25] bottomf the. Thank you.

[3:11:28] Thank yo sir. And Bill

[3:11:29] wish sak. Please come

[3:11:31] forward.

[3:11:39] >> Good afteoon, MR.

[3:11:40] CHAIRMAN members of e board,

[3:11:42] my name is John hwend. I'm

[3:11:44] the CHAIRMAN Of thPirate

[3:11:48] Harbor Werway and must

[3:11:49] adviry board. I come to u

[3:11:50] with or 30 years of

[3:11:51] perience as an experin

[3:11:51] envinmental protection

[3:11:52] working bo for the

[3:11:55] government andor the private

[3:11:56] ctor. I'm also a pro

[3:11:57] memberf a bunch neighborho

[3:11:59] voluntrs who lovand are

[3:12:02] mmitted to taking ca of

[3:12:03] the environmt. Our nehbors

[3:12:05] inust the last 2 years have

[3:12:06] planted hundds mangroves

[3:12:07] to try to salvage small

[3:12:08] isnds damaged in the

[3:12:11] hurricane.We also hav

[3:12:13] carried ndreds of buckets, 5

[3:12:13] ns worth of oyster slls

[3:12:16] and our votes outo a spot

[3:12:17] working with the Crlotte

[3:12:19] rbor. Uatic Preserve to

[3:12:22] try to resto an oyst reef.

[3:12:23] Are a committed bun of

[3:12:24] peop to the environmt.

[3:12:28] Intestingly enough. Project,

[3:12:29] we also advocated for 7 or8

[3:12:30] yearago was the realignmt

[3:12:34] of ourInterests Channel

[3:12:34] agrass is being damad by

[3:12:35] bos going out.

[3:12:36] Realigng, cutting it deepe

[3:12:40] with minimizthat damage. The

[3:12:41] progress was process project

[3:12:44] was a mitigaon in and of

[3:12:45] itself. Nonethels, we

[3:12:46] reire to grow seagrasso

[3:12:46] replacwhat was damaged in

[3:12:49] the dread.Ntroversy has

[3:12:51] arisen regaing the Florida

[3:12:52] Departme, the Florida

[3:12:52] Department of Enronment

[3:12:55] otections for you that the

[3:12:56] can disregarthe results of

[3:12:57] our seagrass migation

[3:13:00] oject. Dp seeks to force

[3:13:02] the county topend more money

[3:13:04] on anotherroject. Our

[3:13:05] adviry board has taken

[3:13:09] well-rearched position. I

[3:13:10] had sent y once before by

[3:13:13] ma copies to get it toyou

[3:13:14] agaionhy we need not spend

[3:13:17] this money ain, Florida dps

[3:13:19] not even abidi by s own

[3:13:20] gulations. Wanted toearch

[3:13:23] mo must be done. I'mere

[3:13:25] toda Apologetically only

[3:13:27] because our attempts to hel

[3:13:27] the coun in this matter have

[3:13:32] been obfcated. It seems like

[3:13:33] coty staff are trying

[3:13:36] ignores into submiion.

[3:13:38] They want use must besed

[3:13:40] funds for a dierent project

[3:13:46] with fd eps Blesng. We've

[3:13:48] tried hard to support the

[3:13:49] county a we've asked for

[3:13:52] pport from sta and w

[3:13:54] don't get y lp ignored.

[3:13:55] Some examples we asked to be

[3:13:55] involved in e budget process

[3:13:58] for mis be use. Got no

[3:14:02] swer by t time llowed

[3:14:04] , id, Hey,here's where's

[3:14:04] that iitatiowears? How how

[3:14:05] can we discuss theudt?

[3:14:06] Theyaid, oh, you'rtoo

[3:14:06] lateu don't get to

[3:14:08] participate. Anheexample,

[3:14:09] the seagrass pject I

[3:14:15] ioned. Compted in 20,

[3:14:16] there are chargetour

[3:14:18] budg in 2025. 26 for

[3:14:19] seagrass mitation. That

[3:14:21] project 2 years ago. We ask

[3:14:22] for detailednfmation as to

[3:14:23] why we're ill being charged.

[3:14:28] No answer. Wwere promised we

[3:14:28] will be invited t next

[3:14:29] agency mting on the status

[3:14:33] of the seagrass Proje

[3:14:34] Departmenteadershi

[3:14:34] purposely excludeds fr the

[3:14:36] meinwe had been pris

[3:14:37] we wou at and never

[3:14:37] thered. Even tell ust s

[3:14:42] happeng. It is simy king

[3:14:42] toe volved. Thank you.

[3:14:43] Thank you. Thankou. Thk

[3:14:45] yofor yo comment. Yeah.

[3:14:46] Deputy pass those ank yo

[3:14:50] ryuch. Thank you.

[3:14:51] >> Com TiseoAnd best

[3:14:51] shes speak, pleaseome

[3:14:52] forward anhave minutes.

[3:14:53] Ate. Your name for t

[3:14:53] record.

[3:15:12] Go afternoon. Coissioner

[3:15:14] I'd like to thk the 2

[3:15:14] speakersi can image you

[3:15:20] not tting a retu call fm

[3:15:20] staff.

[3:15:21] >> Iginehis county becau

[3:15:21] I offereto bthe lobbyist

[3:15:22] for free to ChlottCounty

[3:15:28] for e year. F free. An

[3:15:30] earlier toy we hrd seeg

[3:15:32] me up heari speak aft

[3:15:38] me. Just wt to make me

[3:15:38] thingseal clear he to

[3:15:46] everybodtoday.Look at is.

[3:15:47] Now APRIL 14th 2ears ago.

[3:15:52] Erybody. Just lo at this

[3:15:56] otball fieldThey'rgonna

[3:16:01] lamentous ale. Now. Ts

[3:16:03] isn't fr septic tank ruff.

[3:16:11] We're ltural runof Thisis

[3:16:11] from the psphate ming

[3:16:15] indust. Tt's mosaic on

[3:16:18] everyby.

[3:16:26] Saic ForMeade. On the

[3:16:27] opposite se of thePea

[3:16:30] River isoning d Polluting

[3:16:35] Shoal Creek.N I'm not gog

[3:16:38] to sit uhere anyre in here

[3:16:39] en app oanybody comep

[3:16:45] here to ve us ala massage.

[3:16:45] Don't wt to hear it

[3:16:46] anymore. Ion't wanto see

[3:16:47] yoguys giving y money

[3:16:51] any more501, sees.

[3:16:52] >> Who

[3:16:52] >>ay they' protecting e

[3:16:55] water? Becausare not

[3:17:00] precting the wer. We had

[3:17:01] ctor RicharWhitman re 2

[3:17:05] yearago. And whatid Dr

[3:17:09] Richd Whitman ll the

[3:17:10] Chlotte Couy Legislativ

[3:17:11] legation, ommissioner

[3:17:14] Constance anTruex an

[3:17:15] sell. Rember, he saithe

[3:17:19] Pee River dying. Dyg.

[3:17:24] Attorn Tom. Younow, I kind

[3:17:30] of ms hello, MisJanet. S

[3:17:30] sure madit a lite easier

[3:17:35] look at theiocese. Bu

[3:17:41] you that personay, plea I

[3:17:45] got tell you gu. Y've

[3:17:46] been cplicit in leing the

[3:17:52] rir die. I don't care wt

[3:17:53] e guy's a Taahassee nt

[3:17:53] to telyou, chair. En you

[3:17:55] geup thereyou ll them

[3:17:59] th is ouharbor. Thiss my

[3:18:02] homemchildren, myuture

[3:18:05] gacies he. And we wa

[3:18:06] is harboand this riv, we

[3:18:09] wantt re stod. Thank.

[3:18:12] Ank you, genemen. Than

[3:18:12] you.

[3:18:13] >>omm. Tiseo: d wishinto

[3:18:14] speak any county lated

[3:18:14] matt. Pleaseome forward.

[3:18:15] You'll hav3 minutestate.

[3:18:18] Yo name for threcord. This

[3:18:18] n't landse. This is r

[3:18:20] any otherelated tter. But

[3:18:29] you can stilspeak. Fternoon

[3:18:30] mmissioners.Y name I

[3:18:31] chard Lile County

[3:18:35] sident. My iue todayis

[3:18:36] I'm bu doing mown

[3:18:38] investation of a fmer

[3:18:39] spector genel and inhe

[3:18:40] procesi arranged tmeet

[3:18:42] publ works. And I s

[3:18:44] afforded30 minutesor that

[3:18:48] meing f which e first 5

[3:18:49] waited for attorneto

[3:18:51] zoom ion that meetg. Once

[3:18:55] at attorney t there.That

[3:18:55] attoey interrupt no less

[3:18:59] an 3 tim. Ting up a

[3:19:03] jority omy 30 minute For

[3:19:05] whatever reon thattorney

[3:19:06] deded it was aropriateo

[3:19:08] me. Legacounsel. That leg

[3:19:09] counsel en sometng like

[3:19:12] th. I vise you to t your

[3:19:13] qutions in writing a

[3:19:15] submit tse 2. Communit

[3:19:21] velopmen Inord to

[3:19:23] obtain consistent swer

[3:19:25] fromhe count I'not

[3:19:26] inrested ia consistent

[3:19:28] answer frothe coun. What

[3:19:29] I'looking r is the tru

[3:19:31] from theounty. As an

[3:19:34] investigatorhow you about

[3:19:35] doing th. As yousked that

[3:19:35] me question om sever

[3:19:37] sources.You n compare the

[3:19:41] answers.And if ty're

[3:19:42] constent, then y probabl

[3:19:44] ve the tth when ey're

[3:19:45] incoistent. That the

[3:19:46] thre yofollow tfind the

[3:19:51] uth. Thank yousir. Tha

[3:19:52] your comnts. Anyone se

[3:19:53] wishinto speakPlease come

[3:19:54] forward. Sta your na. For

[3:19:54] the cord. You'llave 3

[3:19:55] minus on anyounty relate

[3:19:56] matter.

[3:20:15] Good aernoon. My ne is

[3:20:18] Samu runningor the reco.

[3:20:19] >> I'm snding he holding a

[3:20:22] campaign mair from Vanessa

[3:20:23] Oliver. She activel

[3:20:25] blting maing ou

[3:20:26] mmunity,laiming she

[3:20:27] fightinghe newesthreat to

[3:20:31] rental rights and taeting

[3:20:33] dophilesIt is incribly

[3:20:34] nveniento lecture th

[3:20:35] public about tificial

[3:20:39] chines a threats on

[3:20:39] ece of paperBut let'

[3:20:40] ing someaw unfiltere

[3:20:43] common sen to this dcese,

[3:20:44] the deepest Rht to our

[3:20:46] children ian adtional

[3:20:47] ost. It a total colpse

[3:20:51] ofpper a Chel

[3:20:51] accounbility insidour

[3:20:52] tual physicalnstitutions

[3:20:53] right here iCharlott

[3:20:57] unty. Thstate of Floda

[3:20:58] or brie officially ras 3rd

[3:21:02] in t nation r hun

[3:21:03] traffickg and ouown local

[3:21:05] soil is cssified as aime

[3:21:05] geograical transitorridor

[3:21:08] ant spot r exploition

[3:21:12] betwn Miami and Tampa. Ye.

[3:21:13] Whilpoliticia use off

[3:21:16] tional hdlines to hu for

[3:21:17] boats, our local stems are

[3:21:18] aling wi systematic rea

[3:21:22] world exploitaon, coverups

[3:21:23] Let's looright under is

[3:21:27] roof with Coissioner

[3:21:28] Cotance wi thousands of

[3:21:30] explicit ptos or uncored

[3:21:33] on a cnty issued governmen

[3:21:34] laptop outsidcounsel

[3:21:36] instigated andound a car

[3:21:37] licy violati. But wh did

[3:21:41] thismmission do?You che

[3:21:43] to overre those ndings?

[3:21:44] Declare thatolan voiand

[3:21:46] sweep entirely unr the

[3:21:47] rug. How can gular citize

[3:21:48] have fai in the les when

[3:21:50] gh ranking oicials g a

[3:21:54] pass f explicit marial on

[3:21:55] puic propey, you sd a

[3:21:57] messagto everyesident th

[3:21:58] you hold por, the ls do

[3:22:02] not ply to you. N, looat

[3:22:04] our school boa or the ates

[3:22:05] invoed our childn. We ha

[3:22:08] seen rest of educatorin this

[3:22:09] coty for sexuamiscondu

[3:22:13] and child ase. I amot

[3:22:13] standi here accusein

[3:22:16] schooloard memr on tree

[3:22:19] intentiolly otectinghem.

[3:22:22] But has a n-negotiable

[3:22:25] statuty responsibity to

[3:22:27] safeguard our student Wher

[3:22:29] was the ovsight? What

[3:22:30] systemat bettingaws allow

[3:22:32] ese individus near our

[3:22:32] kids?

[3:22:33] >>eing a blic offial

[3:22:36] isn't out ribb cutting

[3:22:37] syolic huntinresolutions

[3:22:40] are nding out flas mellors

[3:22:43] out a Ifyou ho the seat,

[3:22:44] you hold therespsibility

[3:22:47] are tired othe double

[3:22:48] stdards anbureaucracy and

[3:22:49] eir shrugs. Expect r

[3:22:52] leads to a as ship for

[3:22:53] the blic, not shift for

[3:22:54] each other. Do your joto

[3:22:59] protecthe most andhas sent

[3:23:00] e most angst our childn

[3:23:01] and GOD lp us dthat. Go

[3:23:06] bless you.

[3:23:07] >> Comm.Iseo: Thank ur

[3:23:07] commen or anyby else

[3:23:08] wiing to speakPlease ce

[3:23:09] forward.Tate your na. For

[3:23:09] the cord. Yoll have 3

[3:23:23] nutes.

[3:23:23] Ood afternoo Good

[3:23:27] afteoon.

[3:23:27] >> I'm goi to reado you an

[3:23:28] mail that wasent froGary

[3:23:29] BangJust name fothe reco

[3:23:32] man. I me for e record

[3:23:36] ning. Susie ank you.

[3:23:39] E-mail w in OCTOBER,th

[3:23:41] 2025. Laura RossiThen it

[3:23:46] was no subjt. I need

[3:23:46] update tthis is in rard to

[3:23:49] war said I sorry. Ye. So

[3:23:50] we'rgoing to havthat wil

[3:23:54] ss your me from it.

[3:23:55] >>omm. Tis: We can tak

[3:23:55] that underonsideraon. We

[3:23:56] oped that landse item.

[3:23:57] This is r public inp. Any

[3:23:58] coun relatematter.

[3:24:02] We're wee not supposeto

[3:24:03] consid any comnts on land

[3:24:03] use at this age of t part

[3:24:07] of t meeting. I kn that I

[3:24:08] usthat. You casay you n

[3:24:10] say whatou want if yont

[3:24:11] to rept it aga, you can

[3:24:14] me back landse. I dot I

[3:24:15] n't have I'moing to ad

[3:24:15] somethg else. OkayThat's

[3:24:16] fi. Okay. So they nt to

[3:24:17] makeure you undetood,

[3:24:17] righ Okay. Wre going to

[3:24:18] resume your me when u

[3:24:24] start taing. Okay.

[3:24:25] >>ary Bain sayto need

[3:24:27] update tt I so it nes to

[3:24:29] reflt the worscase

[3:24:33] condion, which ian

[3:24:34] excavaon and then ck

[3:24:35] feelinit with lch and

[3:24:36] compt. So thtruck count

[3:24:40] hachanged. Howeve we are

[3:24:43] on going 13eet deepnow re

[3:24:43] eling the wrt guess uld

[3:24:46] be theworst-ce scenario.

[3:24:47] The otr case iwe leave it

[3:24:53] as a lake. D do not bac

[3:24:54] feel But w backfield t

[3:24:57] berms arnd e perimer.

[3:24:59] The si more likelyTt

[3:25:01] this is ing toe what

[3:25:05] happens. Do you nd a qb

[3:25:06] yards?Both scerios, Gary

[3:25:11] Bank.

[3:25:12] >> Com Tiseo: Thanyou for

[3:25:12] yo and anydy else wishg

[3:25:13] to speakPlease ce forward.

[3:25:14] State your ne. For t

[3:25:27] record. U'll have 3 nutes.

[3:25:33] MR. Chaman and

[3:25:39] Coissioners. Gd afternn.

[3:25:39] Myame is Dght Dean. I ve

[3:25:40] in Praie Creekark and some

[3:25:43] 0 residentiapropty

[3:25:44] ownersn our Community.

[3:25:45] Praie Creek Parks less

[3:25:48] th 2 and aha miles from a

[3:25:49] oposed mine te knowns

[3:25:53] water si. Ortly you'lle

[3:25:54] presenteimrtant deiled

[3:25:56] infoation regaing the

[3:25:56] applicatiofor wateside,

[3:25:57] whicwe trust youcarefull

[3:26:01] amined. Myoint is

[3:26:02] suggest brder context

[3:26:06] considerhis applation. The

[3:26:07] residents che this mmunity

[3:26:08] toinvestur resources to

[3:26:11] build our homes.Amilies d

[3:26:12] enjoy ling on proper with

[3:26:15] a diinctive ruleCharacte

[3:26:18] Whe we welce a diverse

[3:26:19] variety ofctivities th fit

[3:26:22] natully with this

[3:26:22] defition, itould never

[3:26:26] include sandining. As you

[3:26:27] can infer fr the sizand

[3:26:29] the lume of the blic

[3:26:30] pressionhat willather

[3:26:31] heretoday.T simply doenot

[3:26:38] fit. DayWe e many rea

[3:26:38] anges tang place as

[3:26:43] Florida's population gws

[3:26:44] since says thajust under

[3:26:45] 2 million people med to

[3:26:48] Flida betwn 2020 25.

[3:26:49] Histor growth. Secd only

[3:26:53] toexas, Chlotte populaon

[3:26:57] grew 2 in the me period.

[3:26:58] Whilthese da alys lag

[3:27:00] bend the re,the realy,

[3:27:01] Charloe Countyesidents

[3:27:03] ready se impact. Som

[3:27:05] very good r ourconomy.

[3:27:09] Mo real estate cents, more

[3:27:11] shoprs, moreungry patron

[3:27:13] inestauran et some

[3:27:14] ressing are from year

[3:27:16] infrtructure. Mo cars in

[3:27:17] trafc. More tients

[3:27:19] viting heah re

[3:27:22] provids, great demandsor

[3:27:23] puic servis. And whe you

[3:27:24] won'see a big chge when

[3:27:27] yodrive homtonight, thi

[3:27:29] quie sule and irreversle

[3:27:33] trend builng stress on

[3:27:33] exisng infraructures su

[3:27:34] as our rds and

[3:27:37] trsportation gd. You

[3:27:38] tter th we unrstand t

[3:27:41] difficulecisionsecessary

[3:27:44] wh this populatiogrowth

[3:27:45] exceedexisng capacitieof

[3:27:48] our lal infraructure. You

[3:27:50] ow how me, how more

[3:27:51] affic inarticular the

[3:27:53] large trks hauli large,

[3:27:56] heavy loads conceiv by

[3:27:57] th applicaon. Infles and

[3:27:58] exgerates are esent

[3:28:02] pattn growth a will

[3:28:03] reque even more equent

[3:28:04] updates anupgres of

[3:28:06] crital ansportation

[3:28:08] corrors likeermont and

[3:28:08] Duan RoadsThis is just

[3:28:13] common sen. These e e

[3:28:14] critical porities 're

[3:28:15] focuseon as ou consider

[3:28:19] this water side applicaon.

[3:28:19] We areere to sport you as

[3:28:22] you seek thicrital balan

[3:28:23] and ask u avoid t

[3:28:25] intrusivand isruptiv

[3:28:27] ture. Thiapplication

[3:28:29] wishes to imse upon ou

[3:28:30] community all of deal

[3:28:33] wi many otr remarkable

[3:28:35] changes driven bour rece

[3:28:36] and antipated polation

[3:28:37] grth. Thanyou, sir. Thk

[3:28:41] you comment.

[3:28:42] Comm. TiseoAnd wishg to

[3:28:43] speaon any countsubject.

[3:28:43] Ease comforward. Sta.

[3:28:44] Your namfor the cord.

[3:28:48] You' have 3 minus. Again.

[3:28:50] If it's a la e commen we

[3:28:51] have aand use nextt

[3:28:54] 02:00pm.

[3:28:55] I'm Melanieor paired

[3:29:01] trage th. A bunc So I

[3:29:01] oke to m Khan, sincee

[3:29:02] was the e that aually

[3:29:03] call me back, whh I

[3:29:06] apprecte. Thanyou. We're

[3:29:09] stl haven'gotten anhere.

[3:29:10] So he did gi me advi on to

[3:29:10] te you guys wh we're

[3:29:11] ending. You guys algot

[3:29:12] our 9 's this morningr

[3:29:16] we'll geth today or 90's

[3:29:17] for e last 4ears. Anso

[3:29:17] you gu can seehe

[3:29:20] differce in what e spend.

[3:29:21] 're fromaired outrea

[3:29:21] society,he 501 c

[3:29:23] nonprofi Tt, you know,

[3:29:24] we've been here. Wee

[3:29:26] struggli keep our

[3:29:27] facity open.E're paying

[3:29:28] some of the 00 a mon in

[3:29:31] re. We're aski for you

[3:29:31] sistanceYou know, weere

[3:29:32] able tpull theurplus list

[3:29:34] of operties that arlotte

[3:29:35] Coun uses th are empty o

[3:29:36] not being ed beingsed for

[3:29:39] stage. It immense. So

[3:29:40] n't I'm havi a very rd

[3:29:41] time uerstanding w no one

[3:29:44] caeven looat it.An you

[3:29:45] knowsit downnd talk to I

[3:29:47] have lt at lea 20 mesges

[3:29:48] from m Flores to ge me a

[3:29:50] ca. I'd ner heard from

[3:29:51] him. I've spoken to Melissa

[3:29:52] and I thinare your

[3:29:54] sistance100 timeand they

[3:29:55] ll me, o call me, bui've

[3:29:57] neveheard fr you again,

[3:29:58] cotant, MR. Cotance wa

[3:30:00] e one th did give mea

[3:30:02] call. Ani loed into me

[3:30:03] of the thingthat, yoknow,

[3:30:05] we dcussed ke talkg to

[3:30:06] farmeeing wean move our

[3:30:07] birdomewherelse. The

[3:30:08] omise we havalmost 0

[3:30:10] birds. Wwould ha topace

[3:30:13] themut. We only ve 220

[3:30:14] lunteers. Hodo we ke

[3:30:14] them Howo we keep th

[3:30:15] clean? H do you ow they

[3:30:17] ha to be in one locaon.

[3:30:18] 're paying 3you know,

[3:30:21] ving them alover thelace

[3:30:22] doesn'work. We've never

[3:30:23] asked the coty for athing

[3:30:24] you guys ha to undetand.

[3:30:28] We'vbeen here 17ears. 17

[3:30:29] years.E've tak care of th

[3:30:30] birds ofhis county at for

[3:30:31] yoguys to lieve that tre

[3:30:34] isn't need, its crazy.

[3:30:35] Cay diseasthat we keep

[3:30:39] controlledor he county. W

[3:30:40] just took 21 birdsrom one

[3:30:41] resident iCharlottCounty 7

[3:30:45] ys ago. Is is wh we.

[3:30:46] And you ys don't knothat

[3:30:47] the's palm becse e've

[3:30:48] beenble to mntain fo17

[3:30:50] years thout any helpWe

[3:30:53] can't that anore. We're

[3:30:55] t askingu guys to gi us

[3:30:57] money.Sking tofor us for

[3:30:58] you guyselp us with e

[3:30:59] buildingnd let upay mean

[3:31:01] you'llent. We're lp us p

[3:31:02] our rentMaybe t all of it.

[3:31:03] But discussn of some so

[3:31:06] to how wme forwar We

[3:31:07] ha an,000 square-ot

[3:31:08] facili and we n barely

[3:31:11] ve inside oft. Ie

[3:31:12] invited l of you to me

[3:31:14] visit.Ome lookt what we

[3:31:15] do. This isn just like, y

[3:31:18] know, ti et shop. We a 5,

[3:31:19] a one 3. No one ge paid to

[3:31:21] be there. Are volteer

[3:31:23] based ly you know, wn I

[3:31:23] spoke to t fire chf, he

[3:31:24] tolde if we stard to u a

[3:31:25] nice bd's, we coulmove

[3:31:29] into smaller cility tt

[3:31:29] doesn't lp the probl.

[3:31:31] There arstill atleast

[3:31:31] 120,0 birds ving in home

[3:31:35] inside of arlotte unty.

[3:31:36] Whether yobelieve at or

[3:31:37] not,here are we' done this

[3:31:38] to We've looketalked

[3:31:40] abt an area inlinics a

[3:31:42] over Chaotte Couy. Peop

[3:31:42] don'House onbd. I

[3:31:43] persally hav50 birds at

[3:31:48] home in Lee unty. Ople

[3:31:48] don'House on They house

[3:31:50] lot more than tha And

[3:31:51] Chlotte Coty does not ve

[3:31:56] a breedg policy for yone.

[3:31:57] >> Tnk Thankour comments

[3:31:59] wishing topeak. Plse co

[3:32:00] forward.Eah. Youave 3

[3:32:00] minus. State. Yo name fo

[3:32:06] e recordAgai If it's on

[3:32:11] land u. First

[3:32:12] >> Tha you foraving me

[3:32:13] re. Name forhe recor My

[3:32:14] name iWalter Bellseasor

[3:32:20] is it me win live in s it

[3:32:22] all soutrn Illinois,f you

[3:32:26] knowhere thasaid? Ive

[3:32:26] north rbondale witthink

[3:32:31] the lle. D I was drted

[3:32:39] in 196 Inhe nba want all

[3:32:39] ite scho for the Murchs,

[3:32:41] the port we' replaced th

[3:32:42] 25 divisio They went mat

[3:32:47] all. I went tThailandhe

[3:32:50] desk. Rgeant numbered

[3:32:51] placement. Wre on mos him

[3:33:00] on ml. D b, 52. And myMy

[3:33:01] alificationsf Illino

[3:33:05] State trper full. And tor

[3:33:06] pushednvest seeant known

[3:33:08] as the deputu.S. Maral. I

[3:33:10] work aa court serity

[3:33:12] offirs. Few people herof

[3:33:18] the feral courofficer. If

[3:33:19] you ow nothi them board

[3:33:24] mean write aook. Deat

[3:33:28] anyway. Baup pointWeave

[3:33:31] a TampBay Rayso mean. In

[3:33:34] thspring te burning.

[3:33:38] Traffiis horrendou I was

[3:33:42] board meer. Was a hi

[3:33:42] scol board memr 7 year

[3:33:44] was present for. Ani

[3:33:47] believe safety. And know

[3:33:49] you' worried out money,

[3:33:53] maybe build erpass. You

[3:33:54] don't want g a life more

[3:34:00] impoant. You need t nothe

[3:34:03] ba be a board d the our

[3:34:06] perintendentwhen youo.

[3:34:09] Chk out grt. Lord Ranso

[3:34:12] They pai person.A lot

[3:34:14] gran. If you invest iue of

[3:34:17] the re presidentNo, I'

[3:34:19] t. The psident. Don't you

[3:34:26] wish you wer Anyway, In

[3:34:31] 20. We have 12roopers t.

[3:34:35] My semi ivers. Bronx12a

[3:34:44] trooper'die. Was home. N

[3:34:45] Pinckneylle. He'25 years

[3:34:49] d. E 3 yearon thjob. He

[3:34:53] haa kid fotrial for an

[3:34:58] won 2. Thiserson died tt

[3:35:01] kill mudoom. Ove And

[3:35:02] he's a guyThey really ve

[3:35:10] me. Lo 2 chilen for wif

[3:35:11] Anay, I waa deputy u.S

[3:35:11] marshal, aederal crthouse

[3:35:15] pling on it.

[3:35:16] Know right d how it

[3:35:17] it's 3 nute wityour

[3:35:19] present. I underand gym

[3:35:21] yet.'s 3 ministe that

[3:35:22] ank, you kno servicend

[3:35:23] thank u. Well, whai'm

[3:35:23] sayings we neeto

[3:35:24] protecon. Thank you, sir.

[3:35:27] Normal going stall?

[3:35:30] Ceainly nedo mn so we

[3:35:34] are we uer ovpass bil I

[3:35:37] got Weot youpoints. Are

[3:35:38] public safetover got a ni

[3:35:39] to meet u. Oh, Tnk you,

[3:35:42] si Thank you f your

[3:35:42] coents. Anybodwishing

[3:35:43] speak, pase come forrd.

[3:35:44] State ur name.Or the

[3:35:45] rerd. You'll he 3 minus.

[3:35:58] Yes,hank you, si

[3:35:58] >>ello, myame Charles

[3:35:59] Goodman. I le in the#

[3:35:59] #

[3:36:02] Gorda area a I'm herto

[3:36:05] speak behalf of t Parrot

[3:36:06] outrea society years ago.

[3:36:07] My wife and walked io the

[3:36:08] parrotutreach st out of

[3:36:11] riosity. My fe had. Once

[3:36:13] had pair forlmost years

[3:36:15] fomy babuntil hiassing

[3:36:16] so nationally.E were

[3:36:18] cuous abouwhat this ple

[3:36:20] real was were waly greeted

[3:36:21] byolunteer sta member wh

[3:36:22] gives it tthe cilitiesnd

[3:36:22] give ua short variant

[3:36:23] Haian regaing the

[3:36:24] dierent types of birds

[3:36:27] currently used the over

[3:36:29] the xt 3 ars. We ve

[3:36:30] adopted 3 pa from the

[3:36:31] outrea society, ea one and

[3:36:32] older birdWhat somow lost

[3:36:33] thr previousomes. Yoneed

[3:36:37] somee to care for them

[3:36:38] like mosdomestic pet

[3:36:39] Paris calive a le span.

[3:36:42] Ve similar to our Birds

[3:36:43] are w the 3rd mo popular

[3:36:44] t can nojust Floridabut

[3:36:45] in Ameca. Behind right

[3:36:49] behind dogand catsMany of

[3:36:50] e Burj at thoutreach

[3:36:51] ciety arsimp there

[3:36:52] becausthey've outved thei

[3:36:54] ners abity to care for

[3:36:56] them. T parent I wajust it

[3:36:58] noonly nd suitae hes

[3:36:59] in aretakeror the birds

[3:37:00] but providinvaable

[3:37:02] guidce. Th makeadoption

[3:37:03] st likely toucceed. Ey

[3:37:04] don't st hand the rds out

[3:37:06] tonyone th walks. The

[3:37:07] volueers areways

[3:37:07] avaible for nsultation o

[3:37:10] point, has ncerns regaing

[3:37:11] the heth nutrional

[3:37:13] behaor of your part. He

[3:37:14] doest matter if was

[3:37:14] adopd, theirrders was

[3:37:17] rchased as apetlsewhere.

[3:37:18] Thexpertisof the

[3:37:20] vonteers irreplaceab.

[3:37:21] All the birds a disease

[3:37:23] sted upon arrivain any

[3:37:25] affected, bis will reive

[3:37:26] medical treaents. Noere

[3:37:28] else ithe area canne. Go

[3:37:29] to g the adve and servic

[3:37:32] thatre now ailable at th

[3:37:33] Paot outreach.Hey prove

[3:37:34] ooming svices such anail

[3:37:35] trend, trd as welas

[3:37:38] diseastesting and dna te

[3:37:39] that wou normal incur a

[3:37:40] ry expenve vet bill r

[3:37:41] just theominal dation at

[3:37:45] e treach. Thislso ives

[3:37:46] owne a chancto speak to

[3:37:46] morexperiencBird oers

[3:37:47] regardg anhealth conces

[3:37:51] they mayave withtheir bis

[3:37:52] if nded. The outach has

[3:37:53] st of qualifiedxotic

[3:37:54] anim veterinians in the

[3:37:57] West Coast. Sadly, t nearest

[3:37:58] es are eithenow or nth

[3:38:01] or an ur south of

[3:38:01] #

[3:38:01] ##

[3:38:02] Gord the servic and

[3:38:03] assiance proded by the

[3:38:03] outreach is importa asset

[3:38:05] tour communitynd our

[3:38:07] residents.Thdoors are open

[3:38:08] to t public in thisffers

[3:38:10] manypeoplin e community,

[3:38:11] the abilitto intert with

[3:38:12] pants in a ay that'not

[3:38:14] availae elsewhere the

[3:38:15] area. Childr's faceslight

[3:38:16] when a bird sws a special

[3:38:18] interest ithe visiti

[3:38:21] child, their smes of crisis

[3:38:22] when a rd introced

[3:38:22] themsees by speaki hello,

[3:38:24] I'quite uhs or he girl.

[3:38:26] Suchteractions c shape a

[3:38:27] ild's peonnel. You bome

[3:38:27] more on to havg better

[3:38:30] derstanding of anils. This

[3:38:31] n then eent of the

[3:38:32] relationshipith othe

[3:38:34] people. Parentsre incredly

[3:38:36] intellent bird They're

[3:38:36] capable of ctical inking

[3:38:38] aroften are ab to vocaze

[3:38:40] eir feelgs ju on one

[3:38:41] rent meeting othe

[3:38:42] volunteers, a longti

[3:38:44] residentair interjecd into

[3:38:45] the conversaon regarng the

[3:38:47] ca of burgs. Quoteu

[3:38:48] think yore so smart d then

[3:38:52] leout a lah. Ye they ca

[3:38:53] eak, buthey need us

[3:38:54] speak fothem here so th

[3:38:54] they cahave a safe d

[3:38:58] secure fure in our

[3:38:59] counity. Rpectfully ask

[3:39:00] you supporparadigm

[3:39:00] ciety, tir valuable set

[3:39:01] to ourommunityThank you,

[3:39:04] sir. And ishes spk. Please

[3:39:05] me forward ste your me.

[3:39:05] For threcord. You' have 3

[3:39:12] mites.

[3:39:12] >> Good afrnoon. Tnk you

[3:39:13] fohaving of Chles Mccle

[3:39:17] speakingn behalf of ir

[3:39:17] outreachociety. You' heard

[3:39:18] a t about ganization's

[3:39:21] been arounfor a long te.

[3:39:21] I've bn since boarmember

[3:39:27] fopast 3 yrs. Things

[3:39:27] n tell y about the prot

[3:39:28] treach ithe way helput

[3:39:31] domest violenchome

[3:39:32] people ty have to gi the

[3:39:32] Ram man. Thas at that

[3:39:35] ppens. We ta him no

[3:39:36] arge. We wi charge ybody

[3:39:37] abouparticularlyedical

[3:39:37] carexpenses and e cuts

[3:39:40] dot. Sohat wedo is a lo

[3:39:44] It's 100% volteer as a 5, 1,

[3:39:45] , which r best to ke

[3:39:47] the burp public pee river

[3:39:49] beuse we te care and

[3:39:52] thermay come into wal. No

[3:39:53] questis asked. We'll ke

[3:39:54] care Ur's long as u need

[3:39:55] Ifou need know weined

[3:40:00] him r. Buwhat stu is as

[3:40:01] Mis every moh gets hder

[3:40:01] and haer because othe

[3:40:05] costs. L's this unty.

[3:40:06] It'snbelievable. Did a

[3:40:09] two-ar trying tofind us

[3:40:12] anher facity. We've tried

[3:40:12] evywhere wget polled b

[3:40:14] some of th ental proper.

[3:40:15] It's nothe sort thing we

[3:40:18] nt in mallIt's not the

[3:40:19] rt thing we nt our ltle

[3:40:20] part othe world he. A

[3:40:20] p#

[3:40:20] ##

[3:40:20] #

[3:40:22] orda. But 're he.

[3:40:23] We haven gone aw, but take

[3:40:27] care of everne. The county

[3:40:28] has looked dtressed

[3:40:29] propty. You' paying a lo

[3:40:30] of money ttake carof it

[3:40:33] and op being use We have a

[3:40:35] legitimate 10 Kohl's. Thas

[3:40:35] all volueer. We ke care of

[3:40:38] everyone. We also traing

[3:40:40] progragetting t to the

[3:40:41] scols, educating ople on

[3:40:41] thbirds, hp take care

[3:40:45] them., more tn you can bu

[3:40:48] it o becausehat's ad is

[3:40:49] yohave a lot oseniordown

[3:40:50] herehat takehese birds f

[3:40:52] their coanions. Thatthey

[3:40:55] mes with a ps on the

[3:40:56] buout leav. The birdie

[3:40:56] unload himThe famies don't

[3:40:59] lp them out.T's a huge

[3:41:00] cost. It's auge upti in.

[3:41:02] We'rglad do it. But every

[3:41:03] ar does get rder and

[3:41:07] rder to this. So. Help

[3:41:08] th the renhelp witsome

[3:41:10] landrchase, lp with any

[3:41:11] vaca buildings tt have n

[3:41:12] calls orse right now ihuge

[3:41:16] help us cause, you ow,

[3:41:17] everevery year is going

[3:41:18] every moh, it's going.

[3:41:19] It's getng hardeand

[3:41:20] harderYou thisalls. An

[3:41:21] again,e do prode a good

[3:41:23] rvice to e countyand, yo

[3:41:24] ow, educion. We're phing

[3:41:26] mored more evermonth an

[3:41:27] can getrom the peop to

[3:41:29] tell tm. We will of t day

[3:41:30] thatomes whe we're not

[3:41:32] business anyre. But man

[3:41:34] spiritnever let th happ

[3:41:36] because souch say,hey,my

[3:41:37] Pe for my ds. Bo ars on

[3:41:38] thbreed, t months to ce

[3:41:40] on the pulation.Andhen

[3:41:40] all of sudden at pet

[3:41:42] don't have a home. Soyou

[3:41:44] know, do pride thathat

[3:41:49] service and ain. Its s pre

[3:41:51] sa predateyou know,ith

[3:41:52] e torch has en passeus

[3:41:53] now weake care of rit

[3:41:55] now. Sa lot f good pple

[3:41:55] built ganization tt's been

[3:41:58] ound for long time.Th

[3:41:59] ngest 5,ne c threes the

[3:42:02] coun. Thank yovery much

[3:42:04] r yo Thank yo sir. Be

[3:42:05] wishes sak. Please ce

[3:42:05] forward ate. Youname. For

[3:42:06] e record. Yoll have

[3:42:10] nutes. Good aernoon

[3:42:14] coissioner My name is

[3:42:14] Pay Castro.

[3:42:15] I am not afliated aall

[3:42:15] with t Parrot outrch

[3:42:18] Societ But feelompelledo

[3:42:21] come up d speak to y out

[3:42:22] it seval yearsgo, a friend

[3:42:23] of mine's part passed awa

[3:42:27] I was noaware ofe

[3:42:27] organizaon. I we there. I

[3:42:28] de a donatioand I wod

[3:42:31] encouragyou too to seehe

[3:42:31] facili that th have. I

[3:42:33] ntinue to support em.

[3:42:34] They'ramazing ganization.

[3:42:35] And I wod request th you

[3:42:38] do sething to helth

[3:42:39] wonderfuorganizationr

[3:42:42] communit Thank Tnk you.

[3:42:42] Ybody el wishing to eak,

[3:42:43] plea come foard to left

[3:42:47] minutes. Ood afteoon. My

[3:42:50] na is Richard v Acker.

[3:42:51] >>nd I've en involved th

[3:42:52] the Ms Street d drainage

[3:42:54] Gulf Cove. Foabout 18 yea,

[3:42:56] either othe boaror a

[3:42:59] reside recently. 2 yes

[3:43:04] ago, theommitteerought up.

[3:43:05] King outThere's a lile

[3:43:05] small dium wheyou come in

[3:43:06] on off sympts. 6 on dge

[3:43:09] lot takinghat mian out

[3:43:10] wining and makg an ext

[3:43:13] lane in here. Mentia ithe

[3:43:14] of tee layout thas alread

[3:43:16] the intsection. They'

[3:43:19] been turnedown at ery

[3:43:21] meetin This past mting.

[3:43:24] They werturned down ain

[3:43:25] for it. But ey said theyl

[3:43:26] do a 1.6illion dlar

[3:43:29] beautication. Pin curbe

[3:43:31] rinking e lane. But we

[3:43:33] nt wide beuse of amoun

[3:43:36] of traffichat's in there.

[3:43:37] Now th the park's tered

[3:43:40] the ilding tt's going on

[3:43:41] We're cked up all e way

[3:43:41] throh that iand, waiting

[3:43:47] for que onhat ligh The ad

[3:43:48] nickelntersection r the

[3:43:51] NortSide is Atwater.

[3:43:53] Matter of ct, Julys

[3:43:56] biggerwider. Then at war

[3:43:56] is so the would ill be

[3:43:59] ilgal median and evething.

[3:43:59] I ow you a have heard

[3:44:03] from. Public wks becaus

[3:44:04] ey neverell you whathe

[3:44:08] msp yoreally wt. Leing

[3:44:11] town f a couple therwill

[3:44:12] be oer people he in your

[3:44:13] xt couplmeani got th

[3:44:14] tes wrong. A I told

[3:44:16] dates th they come ud

[3:44:17] speak. Sit'll be comg to

[3:44:21] talko you abt it, too. Bu

[3:44:21] the commtee, residen all

[3:44:23] wanthat medi widened. So

[3:44:27] trafc can fl. Ank you.

[3:44:27] U all have. Od afteron.

[3:44:29] Thank y, sir. Anybo else

[3:44:32] wishg to spe? Oany

[3:44:34] countyelated sject. Please

[3:44:35] ate yourame. For the

[3:44:36] record. Yohave 3 mutes.

[3:44:39] >> I havthe handts.

[3:44:43] There's a pies.

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[3:45:16] ly th 202680 days afte

[3:45:19] transmitta As of this

[3:45:22] moing, JULY 28 2026. W

[3:45:24] have receid no comnication

[3:45:27] feedbacfrom you or yo

[3:45:27] staff onur letter. Tt's

[3:45:32] anothecopy of it.Rarding

[3:45:32] statutory exration a

[3:45:33] automatiwithdrawalf

[3:45:35] proposedomp plan Amement

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[3:45:42] Amendment.5 Dash ' r the

[3:45:45] od revisns which I al sent

[3:45:46] throh yo assistant a

[3:45:49] Charlotte unty, Flida dot

[3:45:49] v on Sunday cause itid

[3:45:50] in 2 wks and we hanot

[3:45:54] heard word bacfrom you.

[3:45:55] Th after monthof vario

[3:45:56] discussis with dividual

[3:45:57] aff and boarmembers

[3:46:01] well. At thApril 28th 202

[3:46:05] Board ofCommissiers meeting

[3:46:05] during commiioner's

[3:46:08] coents. Thfallen commes,

[3:46:09] alquotes from commissners

[3:46:10] and n be vefied on your

[3:46:10] video re made regaing

[3:46:14] extensns. Do weave a

[3:46:15] spresheet of wheand why

[3:46:15] exnsions he been grant

[3:46:17] in the pt? No onknew are

[3:46:21] sponding. How manyoposals

[3:46:21] ha been grted xtension

[3:46:24] How longith those exnsions

[3:46:24] do we ev know ich ones

[3:46:28] me back aftehow longWe

[3:46:29] ould revi extensions r

[3:46:32] approvalnot staf maybe. We

[3:46:33] shouldave a woshop about

[3:46:36] putting exteions whe We

[3:46:37] dot see thesthings for

[3:46:38] months and fget whatt was

[3:46:42] abou ey asked thr

[3:46:43] attorneyus to attoey his

[3:46:46] opion on extenons and

[3:46:47] stf approval oboard of

[3:46:49] mmissions. His response

[3:46:52] We will lo in it. That wa

[3:46:53] 3 nths agoWe haven't

[3:46:57] heard. We pected some pe

[3:47:01] ofesponse ng befortoday

[3:47:02] by l, the adtion hearing

[3:47:02] had to be ld no lar than

[3:47:05] Dember. Xcuse meJuly 9th

[3:47:07] 202600 days aftetrance

[3:47:11] mile returfrom state.

[3:47:11] Remier, the plicant firs

[3:47:13] applied f Kcp24, 4, on

[3:47:17] Seember. Th 2024, hich is

[3:47:19] proximity tooint for 2 ars

[3:47:21] to havtheisewer anwar

[3:47:22] plans apoved, whh is why

[3:47:25] ey ask for exnsion MARCH

[3:47:27] th 2026. Misr De Lisi o

[3:47:28] behalf of e applict. Send

[3:47:32] anmail to stafter hours

[3:47:33] requesng an additial 180

[3:47:34] da extensi out to

[3:47:38] Feuary. 28. Sta sent to

[3:47:39] o see wiin a very sht

[3:47:40] time. Al after hrs to

[3:47:43] reco a nedate with sll

[3:47:43] 111 da before the iginal

[3:47:47] deline. As elected ofcials

[3:47:50] fromour taxpayg

[3:47:51] constituts, don't weeserve

[3:47:54] a sponse tour inquy? Not

[3:47:55] justrickets. Tha u for

[3:47:56] yourime. We ok forward t

[3:48:00] your respoe. Thank you.

[3:48:01] >> Comm. Tis: best whes

[3:48:01] speak.Lease come fward.

[3:48:02] You' have 3 nutes on any

[3:48:05] county reled matte Okay.

[3:48:06] Seng no on right,

[3:48:07] gelemen, do yowant to try

[3:48:08] attempt commts are le to

[3:48:10] go io recess unt 2. With

[3:48:11] the pleasu of theoard

[3:48:16] withok? Soe want to ta a

[3:48:18] ab comments wl just stop

[3:48:20] erever we stoppedstart to

[3:48:21] my lt and ommissioner

[3:48:23] it. You' recognid for calm

[3:48:27] We, actual, we have r.

[3:48:28] Floresthank Just he a

[3:48:28] quick e. It's tually

[3:48:30] piybacking f. We haset

[3:48:31] the puic hearing cing up

[3:48:32] for on Sepmber 8thegarding

[3:48:36] righaway and discussion

[3:48:37] enforcemenjust to e board

[3:48:38] kns, you know,t's not ly

[3:48:38] right ay that we'rwe're

[3:48:39] maki sure weake a look a

[3:48:42] but it's ao there'other

[3:48:43] instce, county orcels

[3:48:44] were folks andtaging o

[3:48:47] rking along. We're tryin

[3:48:48] to take a look at a that

[3:48:49] wherthere might some

[3:48:50] non-mpliancessues and se

[3:48:53] how we gabout enrcing

[3:48:54] whetr it's pting signs

[3:48:55] ortrespaing. So re to

[3:48:56] comen that. T that's it.

[3:48:57] Thank yo MISTER Air, MR.

[3:49:00] Vid, any comnts? Ay,

[3:49:00] Commisoner, do it.Ou're

[3:49:04] recoized foromment, r.

[3:49:04] Just cck your commt on a

[3:49:08] whe bunch things with The

[3:49:08] clothing, thbirds th will

[3:49:09] justome in. And you so

[3:49:14] can all ve a chance I'm th

[3:49:14] st Speak. Mary Andre

[3:49:17] talked abo the expiraon

[3:49:18] date. Sort recall ming

[3:49:24] befo this ard gum to g

[3:49:25] chance tlook into rify the

[3:49:28] ta see if Kcks cent was

[3:49:29] doner

[3:49:29] >> Comm.Eutsch: at the

[3:49:34] stus is on the

[3:49:35] Commissner. We do ia

[3:49:35] time, Dad Countyttorney.

[3:49:36] Do administtive

[3:49:37] exteions, whh is a commo

[3:49:39] practice aund stat Okay

[3:49:42] So theand th's under an

[3:49:47] extension rit now. E

[3:49:48] project at she's don

[3:49:53] referenc at the at urrent

[3:49:54] rerences. The th project

[3:49:54] s extended. Rsuant tthe

[3:49:59] e-mailhat you talk about.

[3:50:01] Okay, itas tended due

[3:50:02] time. And yoknow, thdate

[3:50:04] thatt's extended.

[3:50:05] >> Comm.Eutsch: don't have

[3:50:08] the shoes. Dnot havehe

[3:50:08] das are, b maybe that

[3:50:10] because ey have them. Yo

[3:50:14] n't respd. No, I'morry.

[3:50:15] Maybcould gehat

[3:50:16] informion if whave it and

[3:50:20] sort shar So the ladyould

[3:50:22] be ableo see th we will

[3:50:23] llow les thatere

[3:50:27] establhed and that just asa

[3:50:28] procedure, wl, sometes

[3:50:32] will eend some of ose

[3:50:33] ems if wcould get th

[3:50:35] 4th, it uld be helpf. I

[3:50:35] belie community velopmen

[3:50:36] s that iormation wil

[3:50:39] allow all lked abo it. Ok,

[3:50:40] ank you. Thether thi

[3:50:42] that oncerns and you kno

[3:50:45] prior the souls and

[3:50:46] responding to emails. Wt are

[3:50:52] you doing re? 30 retir the

[3:50:53] emai and pho calls and a

[3:51:03] that stu I'm concerne jt

[3:51:04] they said lot ofools. A

[3:51:05] rell. That0 a 300 or

[3:51:06] whatever. Buit was aawful

[3:51:08] lot of cas.

[3:51:08] >> Com Deutsch: We to the

[3:51:12] adnistrati office andnd

[3:51:12] no onealled th back. Maybe

[3:51:13] you could eck on tt

[3:51:14] internallyCause. Ihink

[3:51:18] mostf us. Try toeturn all

[3:51:22] one calls ve some vel of

[3:51:24] mmunication th the

[3:51:25] citize, whatev whever

[3:51:29] possib. So youay nt to

[3:51:30] Hect, if you cou touch

[3:51:32] ba with th person's wh

[3:51:33] ppened ell, tho phone

[3:51:37] cas turn that at.

[3:51:38] Does ju doesn't see

[3:51:39] consistentor me.

[3:51:46] >> Forhe birds.

[3:51:47] >>omm. Deuch: I had a

[3:51:48] bunch of pow to set e time

[3:51:49] puppies onll kindsof stuff

[3:51:50] flying arounaffordab

[3:51:50] housing ey grew up aa

[3:51:53] youngste And I tnk most of

[3:51:57] us a pet lovs. Now I have 3

[3:51:58] iny budget, question

[3:52:03] ying or not,and the sue

[3:52:10] with t parentsi n't

[3:52:10] ink and maybthe

[3:52:13] adminirator coent on tt.

[3:52:18] I don'think we hava way.

[3:52:20] That we uld pride fundg

[3:52:21] to a 50 c 3.Ot that the

[3:52:27] need. Isn't ere? We d this

[3:52:31] reest come at e end ofhe

[3:52:31] cultal centebefore it

[3:52:32] esn't strikeby hurrines.

[3:52:33] I'm t sure thate have a

[3:52:35] thodology orway. At we

[3:52:39] can ovide fundin2

[3:52:40] ornizationr group like

[3:52:47] that. You MAY want tcomment

[3:52:48] on tt one, t, but I don'

[3:52:49] think thers we don have a

[3:52:53] router oplanned to bable

[3:52:53] provide taxyer dolls to

[3:52:54] someing like Nothat it

[3:52:58] wodn't be.Heful and t

[3:52:59] that the's not a nee but I

[3:52:59] dot think ere's a way

[3:53:01] can do tt. Its the time

[3:53:06] that I'm notaware o

[3:53:07] >> Tom, d the coty

[3:53:07] attorn that I thin

[3:53:08] commission, the wato do

[3:53:09] thatould be to a eu for

[3:53:09] thboard toct and then

[3:53:11] included in the budget

[3:53:11] process. We n look a

[3:53:16] ything y wish wtever,

[3:53:16] whever, whever is legay

[3:53:17] allowed. Don't kw what

[3:53:18] wh this organition's

[3:53:21] stus isr, you know,ut we

[3:53:22] do gnt fundi. We do

[3:53:22] dierent types, you kn,

[3:53:27] the cnty does. Sohat we d

[3:53:27] at packa to the Unit

[3:53:29] Way, whi isbeen tablished

[3:53:30] different. 16 yearsgo.

[3:53:33] We setthat up.

[3:53:34] >> Comm. Deuch: Thers

[3:53:35] differentypes of procts

[3:53:35] that t county nds for

[3:53:39] vaous. County svices. W

[3:53:39] e vendorand all kindof

[3:53:40] thingsSo there ways to do

[3:53:43] it just in tdirect staffo

[3:53:44] vestigat. Have to go

[3:53:48] through thudget. Yeah,

[3:53:49] picked cple of youngen to

[3:53:51] everne else a chanceo

[3:53:52] comment cause I've got some

[3:53:53] more commenton some the

[3:53:55] othethings that me to 2.

[3:53:55] Comm. Dtsch: Want tlet

[3:54:00] someonelse goi.

[3:54:01] >> Well,ou have e floor

[3:54:01] focomments do u do wit

[3:54:07] ur ah, I mean, u've bee

[3:54:08] cognizedor comment.,

[3:54:09] yeah, gohead andgo dow

[3:54:11] ur st and will cment

[3:54:12] after u what we kn. I

[3:54:13] don't nt to co erything

[3:54:14] want to ve everyone se

[3:54:15] enougho do so.Torm. Find

[3:54:18] t. Okay.O your commes

[3:54:19] for no Okay. Commiioner

[3:54:23] Trueyou havea comment

[3:54:23] I'm jusgonna bring you

[3:54:27] annu conferee of fther

[3:54:27] Nacoas succeful

[3:54:28] conferce. I was nothere

[3:54:28] for e generasession on

[3:54:31] Monday. I fl back eay to

[3:54:31] get ck. But meetgs went

[3:54:34] ve, very well. Do have

[3:54:40] new secondites. Whaver it

[3:54:41] is, ichever we'rgonna ce

[3:54:43] presidt vice psident

[3:54:44] airs anyway.Nd that But

[3:54:50] it's our and I I dot have a

[3:54:52] ole lot el to report. St

[3:54:53] publicafety meings wit

[3:54:54] ry well a good

[3:54:55] partipation om fema whil

[3:54:56] we werehere. And sohat

[3:54:59] that s good. E deputy

[3:55:00] director thai got toeet

[3:55:01] with wn I was in Dwas also

[3:55:03] ere. So 's good to e see

[3:55:07] her d there do a

[3:55:08] esentation. E acting

[3:55:08] administtor who s been I

[3:55:09] tive mintry before y get

[3:55:11] 30 yrs of exrience, was

[3:55:13] the in hoping see thnew

[3:55:16] appoine confird by he

[3:55:17] Senatei haven't hed how

[3:55:18] that going athis point.

[3:55:18] But they werhoping thave

[3:55:20] it de this week. We also

[3:55:24] l should be tching tt

[3:55:25] the the rson thas in

[3:55:27] char now the pern is

[3:55:30] comingn and a revious

[3:55:30] adnistrator, fa, we'rell

[3:55:34] in ourdisaster rovery

[3:55:35] meetg and th meeting wen

[3:55:35] very, verywell gten some

[3:55:38] ry good deta. It sous

[3:55:38] likehere on boarto make

[3:55:40] so good mifications a

[3:55:43] not just g the I think

[3:55:45] there's imovementsn at

[3:55:46] area anit's good toee

[3:55:48] thingsoving in positive

[3:55:49] direction. Wall kn that we

[3:55:51] ed to sereform and fema

[3:55:54] but we neefema iplace

[3:55:55] wherwe are concned abou

[3:55:56] they goo a grant press

[3:55:59] proces what looks likeBut

[3:56:00] ey have al been inform

[3:56:01] that we uld likeo see it

[3:56:02] passed the states order

[3:56:03] toet to thlocal

[3:56:06] commities is to op getti

[3:56:07] held up bween theederal

[3:56:08] gornment stateovernmen

[3:56:08] d then t state decid,

[3:56:10] well, I'gonna gi hears to

[3:56:13] there directow. So is

[3:56:13] beer. But overl, I thi

[3:56:14] we're gog to see som

[3:56:16] improvemen ju keep pying

[3:56:18] for 's a long watoo and

[3:56:23] that'sives. Thank you,ir.

[3:56:24] Commisoner, doant to

[3:56:24] coent on commiioner

[3:56:25] direor's comnts are

[3:56:26] coinued. I juslike to

[3:56:27] brg one upbecause I ink

[3:56:28] the geleman looked but Iad

[3:56:30] some informatn be levant

[3:56:35] toule so gtlemen suggesd

[3:56:36] a.

[3:56:36] >>etting a a wk over fm

[3:56:37] the fairounds and whe the

[3:56:42] parkg lot isver and spos

[3:56:42] park.

[3:56:43] Comm. Deuts: particarly

[3:56:44] whenhe stone so cribs

[3:56:44] we here a mber years a

[3:56:45] when I fst came the

[3:56:46] bod, we acally looked to

[3:56:50] that. D the problewith

[3:56:53] gettg theim number onwas

[3:56:53] then I wou ha to guess

[3:56:58] at it is nowBut thcost

[3:56:59] thenas wellver a millio

[3:57:00] dollars.Nd that was out 15

[3:57:01] yes ago. Si had to gue

[3:57:02] what it uld be. T the

[3:57:04] otheproblem with it an

[3:57:06] Putin, the overpassyou woul

[3:57:13] ve to me. All fedel

[3:57:14] guidelin ming it

[3:57:16] acssible to anyone,

[3:57:19] handicappedisablednd to do

[3:57:20] thatyou need oneoot for

[3:57:26] evy inch. Passov would

[3:57:27] ha to be hh enough that

[3:57:29] and I don't ally rember to

[3:57:31] th day, theheht of a

[3:57:32] vecle, butt was somewhe

[3:57:36] around 1to 20 fe. To get

[3:57:36] make se the trks that go

[3:57:37] on on that roadw would b

[3:57:42] le to geunder it. Ll, to

[3:57:43] do that,ou havto remember

[3:57:45] for every in you neea

[3:57:49] ot. And the problewas just

[3:57:51] lookg at we didn have

[3:57:53] enou room to be le to

[3:57:54] builit and stillet people

[3:57:55] paed, but probably wld

[3:57:57] have goneack 102 yardto be

[3:57:59] ableto gethe height wend

[3:58:00] to cro over pss the price

[3:58:02] But did loonto it one

[3:58:03] time. You know,obvioly when

[3:58:04] wead the sne crabs and

[3:58:05] other thin are goi on, it

[3:58:08] waa bo, even sy of that.

[3:58:10] But I waed to shari thin

[3:58:11] Chris, pbably ov everyone

[3:58:16] se that.

[3:58:16] >> y want to finh a list

[3:58:17] common n good. It'soing

[3:58:18] to bmy la call. Wouldou

[3:58:20] like tfinish your list? The

[3:58:22] coents, ok, MR. Flores

[3:58:23] you're recnized. Thank yo

[3:58:24] all be qui. Commissione

[3:58:25] tracks know u're busy of

[3:58:26] naked, buthank youor

[3:58:26] pickinup the Digit County

[3:58:31] Suey Awardfor ommissioner

[3:58:32] Constance, y bring iup

[3:58:33] challengg, push to take

[3:58:33] vantage of thnology.

[3:58:37] So, you know, kudos Ben

[3:58:37] Bailey and h becausehey've

[3:58:39] goen that the ndful of

[3:58:40] yearin a rowSo we'll wll

[3:58:41] keep pssing foard. Thank

[3:58:42] you, chr. Yeah, thathat

[3:58:43] prestation igoing to ben

[3:58:44] the Septber meeting.Irst,

[3:58:47] beesn Septemr.

[3:58:52] >> MR. An says s. Real

[3:58:52] quic apprecie the people

[3:58:57] coming in om the pents. It

[3:58:58] d and ife discussed on

[3:58:58] the phe call, t maybe one

[3:58:59] thought is tsee abou

[3:59:05] rtneringp with oer

[3:59:05] ssibly f-profit or

[3:59:06] not-for-prof groups onto

[3:59:07] landre some of t other

[3:59:07] on around en mention tt

[3:59:08] before., yoknow, Shaker

[3:59:13] mn. But I yoknow, I

[3:59:14] think thers an opptunity

[3:59:15] nojust talkingabouyour

[3:59:16] situion, but alsthe

[3:59:17] gentlen talkinabout the

[3:59:20] rehouse Babck. You know

[3:59:22] king surthat we're fly

[3:59:23] ilizing county facities.

[3:59:24] So think tt's maybe

[3:59:24] mething thate have t

[3:59:26] nversatis about. At's

[3:59:31] it. Ank Shoulalready.

[3:59:32] Comm. Derty: Thank u,

[3:59:32] MR. Chrman. Ye, I was

[3:59:33] gog to bring uMr. Ekel

[3:59:34] from thaclock ranch the

[3:59:34] fireuse 31. Yes, I'the

[3:59:38] commisoner. He been in

[3:59:38] communicatn with a I've

[3:59:39] beenorking with ores on

[3:59:41] th as wel I wouljust ask

[3:59:46] ctor if you uld take

[3:59:47] brief alboard member a new

[3:59:48] onon ones to the status

[3:59:49] ofhat buildingnd what e

[3:59:51] plans arso that we a know

[3:59:54] and thenprobab sent an

[3:59:57] mail, so kind of written

[3:59:57] Mrna cse to Ali.Onathan

[3:59:58] kns what t real plans e

[3:59:59] for the unty. I preciate

[4:00:03] at. He aed that we ok

[4:00:08] into I the reason r my

[4:00:08] >> for mcomments, I d

[4:00:13] speak to sta when that v

[4:00:14] post reque came inmy

[4:00:15] undersnding is we ren't

[4:00:15] readto surpl at

[4:00:19] proper. That's right.O,

[4:00:19] you kn, I gueswe can

[4:00:20] foalize a lett and

[4:00:22] corrpond withe gentleman

[4:00:23] It's just wre not rdy to

[4:00:24] do tt. We have dermined

[4:00:29] it ready for rplus. Yeah,

[4:00:30] you're recnized, Tnk you,

[4:00:30] MrBut yeah, I ink thatut

[4:00:31] that'sxactly the dlogue, I

[4:00:32] ink MR. Flor, these ey

[4:00:36] have wh each one ous

[4:00:36] invidually.

[4:00:37] So he gets e sense,

[4:00:37] you knowwhere he's hding

[4:00:38] withake suree's got

[4:00:39] coensus from t oard

[4:00:44] contue down that ph.

[4:00:45] >> Com Tiseo: d in regards

[4:00:46] to the Part outrea

[4:00:47] program, did spe to staff

[4:00:50] out. Ou kw, what the

[4:00:53] county couldo, ou

[4:00:54] facilitiesi don't ink we

[4:00:55] havecilitiescoucive

[4:00:56] bett readily avaable to

[4:00:59] lee out. To nonprofit o

[4:01:00] for-profitor any

[4:01:03] organition. I ink. We

[4:01:06] don'have thakind of spac

[4:01:07] availae. So I ess what the

[4:01:07] speaker sa is she'

[4:01:10] entifiedProperes that

[4:01:14] have thahave facities th

[4:01:14] can house bis. I'm I

[4:01:17] unaware at at this int. So

[4:01:18] have to get th staffnd

[4:01:22] maybe Hector n. We'llust

[4:01:22] go oveone more timat our

[4:01:24] ne staff mting to

[4:01:25] derstandhat th invento

[4:01:26] is that at has a building

[4:01:30] that's thousds of sqre

[4:01:31] feet. Ferber, u know tt we

[4:01:31] can e for birds. Don't

[4:01:35] kn if one

[4:01:36] >> Cm. Doherty: y just

[4:01:37] reted commt it's pass.

[4:01:41] Think itight be se secto

[4:01:41] look atn workshop anda

[4:01:42] in theelativelnear future.

[4:01:44] Look at alofur spacethat

[4:01:46] are ey can right no I have

[4:01:48] nolue whate've got fo

[4:01:49] ace. Justo confirm wh

[4:01:52] the chaian's lking abt.

[4:01:53] And soe we undstand that I

[4:01:53] dot I don't kn what we

[4:01:57] ve, whate don't hifor

[4:02:00] primily that'sn cupied

[4:02:01] anthat we're hding on

[4:02:01] for futu needs leasthat we

[4:02:05] beeve it.

[4:02:06] >> Syeah, cae yet becaus

[4:02:07] it to the tent if do have

[4:02:08] y spe d staff idenfied

[4:02:09] as apoteial future nd,

[4:02:13] we're t going give that

[4:02:14] up a then trto get it ba

[4:02:15] because get I n't know wha

[4:02:16] it is yet.E'll havto.

[4:02:17] We'll ve to take aook at

[4:02:18] that ientory. I'm st

[4:02:21] unawarof it atthis me.

[4:02:22] There s a gentman spoke

[4:02:24] out the Pira arbor Msbu

[4:02:25] and that thenot bein

[4:02:25] volved itheir budget

[4:02:26] process. Tt doesn'sound

[4:02:30] righto me. A be used

[4:02:30] typically apoved the work

[4:02:31] plano go over thbudget.

[4:02:34] So. You knowSo I just

[4:02:36] ked staff to addhat to m

[4:02:37] thoscommentsr neck sff

[4:02:38] meetin I just likeo

[4:02:39] understa what th gentleman

[4:02:39] was talking out. I d't I

[4:02:44] don'derstandhat.

[4:02:44] >> Cm. Constanceyour

[4:02:45] consous as pice. They to

[4:02:46] interrupt servant.F that's

[4:02:46] tually the t of my lt.

[4:02:49] And neglected a ttle bit

[4:02:50] ncerned out what ey

[4:02:51] talkedbout. Yoknow, they

[4:02:52] hathe seagrassmitation

[4:02:53] planid everythinthey wer

[4:02:53] pposed tdo to get prty

[4:02:57] close to mpletion. Th the

[4:02:57] stor watch wed everythin

[4:03:02] out and th it's onhem to

[4:03:02] replant everhing.

[4:03:03] >> Cm. TiseoWhat staff I

[4:03:04] spoke to sff a sta meeting

[4:03:04] out that. If remembe

[4:03:05] ght, sta had said th

[4:03:08] tried plting it didn't te

[4:03:09] and theyound that th were

[4:03:09] lookg for anlternate

[4:03:12] ogram. I thi they ried

[4:03:12] twicand it didn't ta. So I

[4:03:13] unrstood tt part of wh

[4:03:15] he was talkinabout. So th

[4:03:17] came up th an alrnate

[4:03:18] progm to satisfyat

[4:03:19] mitigaon. I believ

[4:03:20] something th effect.

[4:03:23] Ssus. Les is coming up.

[4:03:24] But I rememb having at

[4:03:24] convertion with th

[4:03:25] seagrass. Itust they goi

[4:03:30] to spendmore money plan an

[4:03:31] unsuccessfuled of serass

[4:03:31] and didn't makeense. I

[4:03:33] beeve it w on those nes.

[4:03:37] Plse correct mon that

[4:03:37] MISS Lewis.

[4:03:38] >>ood afteoon. For theee

[4:03:38] Lewis,eputy Coty

[4:03:39] adminirator commisoner.

[4:03:40] That correcthem looking

[4:03:44] for John becse he shld be

[4:03:45] comingut yes, th is

[4:03:46] actuly an agreemt with

[4:03:47] mu be on th on this tha

[4:03:49] be adcating wh the

[4:03:52] agen for relief om. What

[4:03:55] weonsider be

[4:03:56] overrdened. Simo

[4:03:57] potentiay that not following

[4:03:59] eir own There was a meeti

[4:04:00] scheduleth the p belve

[4:04:03] last Mday this Mond it was

[4:04:04] caeled dueo weather. B

[4:04:04] I'll letohn speaa little

[4:04:09] t further.

[4:04:10] >> Thankou, commsioner,

[4:04:10] fothe record, hn. Unle

[4:04:11] public wks director.O to

[4:04:12] Emils Point,e do concur

[4:04:13] with a lot osentimt from

[4:04:14] thfks there. Wee share

[4:04:16] the frusation. What?

[4:04:18] >>he at the enof the day

[4:04:24] wegot toddge permit. E

[4:04:24] grants pmit had rtain

[4:04:25] requements that have to

[4:04:26] et to inude some eagrass

[4:04:27] migation. E seagrass

[4:04:30] mitigation dn't go awell.

[4:04:32] But we'reringing oth folks

[4:04:33] anto include Brann people

[4:04:34] our teaand others t

[4:04:37] basically like can is be

[4:04:38] can is count as e

[4:04:39] mitigati over here? Because

[4:04:42] the area thathey're at

[4:04:42] ey're isolatg didn't

[4:04:45] mily's pnt didn't dowell.

[4:04:47] We agree wi a lot of wh

[4:04:48] they're ying ande're doing

[4:04:50] evything wcan. So when y

[4:04:50] heard abt the chges,

[4:04:52] thers ongoinworkhat

[4:04:54] we're still ing with that

[4:04:54] and work. Ani think met

[4:04:55] with tm this wk. I don't

[4:04:56] know wh the utcome was.

[4:04:57] Were slad to meelast

[4:04:58] Mond and then weould mee

[4:05:02] th them thgentleman that

[4:05:03] spoke at he second the. He

[4:05:05] giveus a list of estions

[4:05:06] th he wantus answers a

[4:05:08] we're gog to go throh

[4:05:08] tensive st. Agai we kind

[4:05:09] concur th a lot of e

[4:05:13] sentimenthat thehave.

[4:05:13] Yeah, and I ink the ggest

[4:05:14] thinwas he said ey weren

[4:05:15] involvedn the budgetrocess

[4:05:16] fotheir own msbu. Don't

[4:05:18] knowow th could be. I

[4:05:20] dot eitherbut through it

[4:05:21] and make se they wl be

[4:05:21] hone, transparenas we ca

[4:05:24] . MR. Kh yes. Thank u,

[4:05:24] sir.O, you kw, I guess t

[4:05:29] problem if thenvironme

[4:05:30] >> Comm.Onstance: isot

[4:05:30] appropate for agrass

[4:05:31] beuse the eastall is

[4:05:32] long seagrs. And that'

[4:05:33] exactly whe this mt.

[4:05:34] Replanti. They're rely

[4:05:35] throwi good moy after bad.

[4:05:35] It's just t going work.

[4:05:39] Soon't penaze them. So m

[4:05:41] glad to ar staff is on their

[4:05:42] side and agrs. And Ion't

[4:05:44] thinany of us digree with

[4:05:45] that. Let'keep thimoving

[4:05:45] foard. And cane pleaseet

[4:05:49] an upde in about aonth and

[4:05:50] ves you ow, at MAY b

[4:05:52] under admistrationomet or

[4:05:53] something, b we justot to

[4:05:53] stayon top of th. And I

[4:05:54] wa them tonow they there

[4:05:58] being ard and at 're

[4:05:59] followg.

[4:06:00] >> Anoer anoth challenge

[4:06:00] we've had anwe've det with

[4:06:01] th with a lot differe

[4:06:03] things. St at a highvel

[4:06:04] here wget technicaexpert

[4:06:06] in thcommunity and the are

[4:06:06] techcal expes like peopl

[4:06:09] This is at they've do and

[4:06:10] theyant to providenput and

[4:06:11] nt to bes part of th

[4:06:11] gotiatio. But we can

[4:06:15] really l that ppen. So

[4:06:16] 're tryi to let theme

[4:06:18] part of. But 're so the

[4:06:19] inealing with e agency

[4:06:19] ey're li where the

[4:06:20] applicant th have toalk

[4:06:21] with u So that's o of th

[4:06:22] challengeshey wererying to

[4:06:23] rike a balan and wor

[4:06:28] rough.

[4:06:28] >> It was al commentn the

[4:06:33] popethe project d quot

[4:06:34] unquote reement that

[4:06:34] requiredith the ate to

[4:06:35] grt an xtension. I d a

[4:06:37] publicdiscussi here from

[4:06:38] th deiah scifically asng

[4:06:42] the coty attory. Ife're

[4:06:44] violing any kd of stute

[4:06:45] and at I remembe right,

[4:06:47] MrDavid, u can correcme.

[4:06:51] My undstandi is 's not

[4:06:51] dened onhat agreement

[4:06:54] in at rticular stion on

[4:06:56] anting agreent. Some

[4:06:56] countieshroughouthe state

[4:06:57] have a formal ocess.Here

[4:07:00] comeback to the bod? Me

[4:07:02] don't.Nd thegencies except

[4:07:04] e extensions from stto

[4:07:04] theistaff. That s my

[4:07:06] undetanding.That correct.

[4:07:10] That's a goodummary. Ank

[4:07:11] you. Sas far adog

[4:07:12] sothg illegal on the

[4:07:13] extension. Wod you sagree

[4:07:19] with that? Causwe're bein

[4:07:20] accused ofng gs

[4:07:22] illey on extensis on

[4:07:23] vid County attorney.E

[4:07:23] the coes in compliance

[4:07:27] withtatute. I understanif

[4:07:28] peop disree with that t

[4:07:29] of timesouut couple

[4:07:29] wyers in the room ge

[4:07:32] dierent wers. But as far

[4:07:34] as t county's awer,s

[4:07:34] that word companceYeah. I

[4:07:36] think the stents were we

[4:07:38] ki of dropped the lln

[4:07:38] llowing on that. T like

[4:07:39] I said, it was discsed

[4:07:40] publly. Asked that sam

[4:07:43] questionAnd then actually

[4:07:44] threw out tohe boa

[4:07:46] meers. Do we wantohang

[4:07:47] our poli and make so it

[4:07:49] esome to the boa f

[4:07:53] approv for extsions w

[4:07:54] wanted iat thapoint ere.

[4:07:55] There were 3 had nSoe

[4:07:57] kept iast

[4:08:00] mistrative thing othe

[4:08:01] exnsions. Just to leyou

[4:08:02] l know tt you ne

[4:08:03] commissi program ikickg

[4:08:04] off. I'll btaki the

[4:08:07] le thitime arounon that.

[4:08:08] 're seing updas were

[4:08:09] gettint e-mails th know

[4:08:11] of anyothercommsiers for

[4:08:12] thxt time around. W

[4:08:13] going this on rotatio

[4:08:14] I know did.He first one

[4:08:17] commission direcd e last

[4:08:19] d it'sack to magain. B

[4:08:21] do needn answer w. I

[4:08:22] just thrinit out there.

[4:08:23] Someing to tnk aboutSo

[4:08:25] get readfor at. At's

[4:08:26] minground commsionern

[4:08:27] th. Misterhaman, I thi

[4:08:27] il down where yound

[4:08:28] were gngo bounce back d

[4:08:31] forth because nobo ee

[4:08:32] ally hava big intestn

[4:08:33] runninprogm. So okayif

[4:08:34] th'she way erybodstl

[4:08:35] feels d at's wt welan

[4:08:36] to t nt 10 yearswe're

[4:08:43] likely tget OKthis was

[4:08:46] brout a the la year

[4:08:46] abt e leworking progra

[4:08:48] and bringingeoe ba to

[4:08:49] rk. Went rough an aud

[4:08:53] with the crknd heou he

[4:08:54] madeomrecommdations to

[4:08:56] our admistration telewoing

[4:08:58] licy. And speakinrently

[4:09:00] aty st sta meeting wit

[4:09:03] MrFlores, he'imemente

[4:09:04] thosrecommdations an

[4:09:05] erybody's cko work.

[4:09:06] Cepthose w do n. We

[4:09:10] don't ve aspacfor. And

[4:09:11] now e tcu hathe w

[4:09:11] facity tre that we

[4:09:14] nting. Mt of tse peoe

[4:09:15] are ba. So thenly pele

[4:09:17] who arworkinfrohome some

[4:09:18] oplerom financ We dot

[4:09:19] yehave tt spe availabl

[4:09:23] We're workg on itand pele

[4:09:23] whha a medicaexse to

[4:09:28] beorng frohome. And I

[4:09:28] lieve was Cosioner

[4:09:29] Doy who sa he wanted t

[4:09:30] ke sure tht least the

[4:09:34] boardspocy was conent

[4:09:35] wi ainistration inerms

[4:09:37] of ourdepame bringing

[4:09:38] evybody backo work. I

[4:09:39] eve now wee ready to

[4:09:41] ing everybback to wo.

[4:09:43] Soust wantedo put that

[4:09:44] outhere as fs working

[4:09:50] home. I brght up at

[4:09:52] la meet copy of se our

[4:09:53] travel bget over he last 4,

[4:09:53] years. Derstand ebody

[4:09:55] has but I'm noure staff

[4:10:00] had ear he nod. I propos

[4:10:02] roll thosback to atleast

[4:10:05] 2022 levelThent from

[4:10:08] hly 500,000 90000. A lot

[4:10:09] it with c, but a li

[4:10:11] bit fromeach dartment. I

[4:10:12] justt to ke sure it

[4:10:14] clear we're dirting

[4:10:15] stafto brg somethinck

[4:10:16] to therd during is

[4:10:18] budget cycto help cu

[4:10:19] those cost Is that cct?

[4:10:21] Gentle are Did Iet that

[4:10:21] wrg? Commissr director

[4:10:26] ank you,ir.

[4:10:26] >> Comm.Ruex: I'm sure

[4:10:27] we had odds onhat. But

[4:10:28] wh I will sa I think w

[4:10:28] ed to take look at

[4:10:32] woshop at decide, y know,

[4:10:32] withdministrats

[4:10:36] guidanceich which ofse

[4:10:37] becausme of thesprograms

[4:10:37] arvery impor for the

[4:10:38] s to get tse

[4:10:39] aceditations to contin

[4:10:42] the profesonalism of

[4:10:43] departmes. So I re like

[4:10:44] to hunderstandg of what

[4:10:45] they arso that we this

[4:10:49] withcalpel. Noa

[4:10:49] chai.

[4:10:50] >> That' excellentdea. I

[4:10:54] don'object to actually

[4:10:55] asd Hector ae point wa

[4:10:55] while ago.Ou know, y

[4:10:56] bring me sothing withr

[4:10:57] recommenons after u get

[4:10:58] with yr directord see

[4:11:01] whatld beut. So we

[4:11:02] had not ring that that

[4:11:03] u know, sowork with

[4:11:03] alpel. Neea workshop

[4:11:07] ing back. Wre go. Oka

[4:11:11] We've got 5 had We've got

[4:11:15] alpels ay. I knowwe'

[4:11:16] got a long with landuse.

[4:11:19] So Ihink whategood

[4:11:20] Commission Deutsch,

[4:11:22] going to cile back yoth

[4:11:27] and lastall. OkAll

[4:11:29] right.Re Okay that

[4:11:30] endsy omments. S are

[4:11:35] now 0pm and use ag.

[4:11:36] Anybody ng testimo today

[4:11:38] on a of the la use ems

[4:11:39] if you'rgoing to s on

[4:11:41] consent or gular landse

[4:11:42] agenda, ease standand be

[4:11:42] swin. Take yr oath wit

[4:11:45] e clerk. Body givin

[4:11:45] stimony poced and tahe

[4:11:47] oath.

[4:11:51] Please rayour righ

[4:11:52] nd. Do youemnly swea

[4:11:53] e testimonthat you'r

[4:11:55] out to get do right?Nd

[4:11:56] thank you.O you sole

[4:11:57] swear? Testimony tt

[4:11:57] you're abo to give ie

[4:11:58] truth, thole truthnd

[4:11:59] nothing t the trutlease

[4:12:05] say ay. Thank u.

[4:12:06] >> Comm.Iseo: Okay I'm

[4:12:06] goin open up t public

[4:12:07] inpu This s for land

[4:12:08] consent agentems. Only

[4:12:11] at's va on

[4:12:13] >> Thrgh 8, t are

[4:12:15] consitems. If're here

[4:12:20] regular agenitems

[4:12:21] for use will t to those

[4:12:25] xt. OkayIs there anyby

[4:12:26] wishing topeak on cot?

[4:12:29] Only? Pase come frd

[4:12:29] state name. Youill

[4:12:36] have. 3inutes. Ani have

[4:12:40] Doct Mary Elless on too.

[4:12:46] Mmends Ba DR. Mary l

[4:12:47] kissepresentin bring

[4:12:50] Storridor coition. E

[4:12:51] Brewst Corridor ition

[4:12:53] respully reques. That

[4:12:55] e board ofounty

[4:12:57] commisoners de approval

[4:13:04] he prosed modifion.

[4:13:05] >> To dg pg finadetailed

[4:13:07] si Plan or c onfor 2,

[4:13:07] whicwould incr the

[4:13:11] deveent by 100 tional

[4:13:12] dwng units. D this is

[4:13:14] see that Ce, they. 2 of

[4:13:18] ese propos Euce 96 woul

[4:13:18] ted withinhe coastal

[4:13:22] gh hard areas rng

[4:13:25] siificant cons about

[4:13:25] potential pacts on t

[4:13:26] watershed mwater

[4:13:29] mament and dinage

[4:13:29] capaci of the sunding

[4:13:33] areaWere paicularly

[4:13:34] coerned about the ting

[4:13:37] homeong troute, hich

[4:13:39] joinhe exion area a

[4:13:42] they be espeally vulnee

[4:13:45] to existand future

[4:13:45] flooding cditions. Ae

[4:13:46] board isre, the fil

[4:13:49] brief surgin eport preped

[4:13:51] by Kimhorn has rently

[4:13:53] beeneleased. Our oalition

[4:13:54] urrently riewing the

[4:13:56] repo's finding

[4:13:57] recommendas to identy

[4:13:59] the highes Priority

[4:14:03] ainage impvement pros

[4:14:03] and to evaate a corrve

[4:14:06] actiond lunchroo

[4:14:07] safeards neede address

[4:14:08] istent drainageershed

[4:14:11] and floodissues throhout

[4:14:12] tharter. Until th review

[4:14:14] revi has been cometed and

[4:14:16] thcounty has deterd how

[4:14:19] willbe impnted 3 por

[4:14:22] recommendaons. We believe

[4:14:26] uld be premattopprove

[4:14:26] addional residal density

[4:14:32] this areaAccogly. We

[4:14:33] spectfullyrge the board t

[4:14:35] nsideratioof this rst

[4:14:38] and torain from proving

[4:14:40] y increaseand willi units

[4:14:43] in existievelopment

[4:14:45] ether throh transferf

[4:14:47] density rections

[4:14:51] designatitigation s or

[4:14:52] mechanisinto t critical

[4:14:55] n. A foot, gei

[4:14:56] concerave been aquately

[4:14:59] addrs. We dnot think

[4:15:03] on should taken. To

[4:15:04] prove any hese expanon

[4:15:05] projectsThank you.Hank

[4:15:08] your commentsman.

[4:15:08] >> Anydy else wig to

[4:15:10] spea consent itonly

[4:15:10] pleaome forwarstate.

[4:15:11] Yourame for the recor You

[4:15:17] will he 3 minutecan see

[4:15:18] nody rise. Ionna we're

[4:15:19] nna go thrgh the con

[4:15:19] Commissiminute youre

[4:15:20] sorry, Mter Richieu're

[4:15:24] recoed. Ststate your

[4:15:31] me and whi item. Richie.

[4:15:32] And I'ing to be lking

[4:15:38] about.Thact same im. Dr

[4:15:39] ss was jusspeing about.

[4:15:45] At's va to

[4:15:45] >> Yeah, t 2 do va oa

[4:15:47] too.

[4:15:48] We're a l lull in

[4:15:54] e. U know, it really

[4:15:55] insting if y all are

[4:15:55] liening to tetro

[4:16:00] fore earlier. Yoknow. We

[4:16:01] never hearwe need a

[4:16:09] hoital. Nowe word.

[4:16:09] >> And ssee in va e, you

[4:16:13] wanto do 204 units the

[4:16:14] va to youant to 100

[4:16:18] ngle-familots. And some

[4:16:19] 96ots within coastal

[4:16:21] hazard ar.

[4:16:28] We are rinow. The Pce

[4:16:29] ver and thyakka Ri

[4:16:30] with all the rawhi

[4:16:32] wasn't vermuch rain.

[4:16:37] Evody.

[4:16:38] >> Is stl at the lt

[4:16:39] watermarhey've beein

[4:16:41] story. Comioner Dority

[4:16:42] commsioner nstance

[4:16:42] cosioner to mmissioner

[4:16:44] uax commisoner Deuts

[4:16:47] Did you hear thThe lowest

[4:16:50] water lels ever?

[4:16:55] >> I just hed all.

[4:16:56] >> Bon Moody'soing to

[4:16:56] get volved. Wegoing to

[4:16:57] this one. 're going

[4:16:59] get that on But what'e

[4:17:03] one commenominator

[4:17:04] Commissier Dohertyn't

[4:17:10] the oys take?

[4:17:11] >> I wt everybod this

[4:17:12] chamin the couy to hear

[4:17:14] answer. Ty not ke

[4:17:15] becaustheris toxic

[4:17:16] polled water ie Peace

[4:17:20] Ri

[4:17:21] >> n have a frnd of mine

[4:17:22] o made a cnt the other

[4:17:23] downne of my post o

[4:17:25] cebook ande's be in the

[4:17:27] Peace Rivelongern any of

[4:17:28] ever have. He's his

[4:17:32] chil in the Pee River

[4:17:33] th.

[4:17:33] >> came ba from the ital

[4:17:34] and an still wer ski,

[4:17:40] bareot. And, yoow, he

[4:17:41] sa the wateror of the

[4:17:41] r has chand drastica

[4:17:47] Why? Every r is a

[4:17:47] difft color fr Tampa Bay

[4:17:50] CharloHarbor. You kw

[4:17:52] why Ms becse of osphate

[4:17:56] mini dischargiNo, you

[4:18:01] guant to contito re

[4:18:01] housess, why? The's

[4:18:02] 11,000ouses for right

[4:18:06] no Charlotteounty. How

[4:18:06] can yowith colle

[4:18:12] educationsHon you or

[4:18:17] stafre staff? U know

[4:18:17] th'm not telng

[4:18:18] commissiontaff's rubr

[4:18:20] stamp and this stand

[4:18:21] they'rt followinthe

[4:18:26] rules. Because ware

[4:18:27] investing that bck and

[4:18:28] whit And you kwhat we're

[4:18:30] eing, doesadd up. Thank

[4:18:35] yo sir.

[4:18:35] >> Any b wishing tspeak

[4:18:36] on connt items, ent land

[4:18:41] Cg. Nobody se.

[4:18:42] Commissier anythin pull?

[4:18:43] Ye. Let's fua to and

[4:18:46] about So t va to

[4:18:50] commsioner to accounts

[4:18:51] the thingsmissioned

[4:18:52] ady nothin I have

[4:18:53] nothg else movthe

[4:18:54] balling. Have tion a

[4:18:55] cond to mo the balanIs

[4:18:56] there further dision?

[4:18:59] Thery oppositi to the

[4:18:59] moti, ok? The nce has

[4:19:02] bepproved of csent.

[4:19:03] Commisoner do itu pulled

[4:19:05] o You're rognized

[4:19:11] present. Wisclosures

[4:19:12] mmissionerYh. I met my

[4:19:14] commissi or 2 most

[4:19:19] Commoner Constce,

[4:19:19] dilosure.

[4:19:20] >> Cmissioner onthly

[4:19:21] stbriefing wh the

[4:19:21] communy DevelopmCounty

[4:19:22] Atey's Officenvironmen

[4:19:25] paperwork this morng.

[4:19:27] >> I hady monthly f

[4:19:28] meetinand also rved

[4:19:28] e-mailm Doctor Ks. And I

[4:19:31] fid my discles.

[4:19:55] You'ecognized en you're

[4:20:16] rey. Whenevyou're ady.

[4:20:18] And think rry. Okay.D

[4:20:23] afternoor record. Shl.

[4:20:27] Can heo nt Penn t

[4:20:28] >>etition dr6 Dash 0, 2,

[4:20:31] c 7.S a fine a final

[4:20:36] deta site planSoe's

[4:20:39] requesti what patientl

[4:20:40] pt l detaiay, Plan o

[4:20:45] 25 dash 1, 4, 2, apoval,

[4:20:49] sey Abe fus across w

[4:20:50] and previo. It's cal

[4:20:53] si life. Andhe prosed

[4:20:57] projecconsistf you call

[4:20:58] priestn 1996, knweaving

[4:21:00] thastal s area and for

[4:21:03] lo with him on. Coast

[4:21:06] ea f a total 100

[4:21:07] singleily. Lots.So the

[4:21:12] enti project c10, 6

[4:21:13] 68.4, 3 acs and is led

[4:21:15] to thet side of rnt

[4:21:16] storad and we n come

[4:21:19] distct 2. This is geral

[4:21:20] locati of the sut.

[4:21:24] ProperAnd the is the

[4:21:27] ea image othe subject.

[4:21:28] Operty at ll ange. You

[4:21:28] see that a located t

[4:21:29] e east sid burnt sto

[4:21:34] road. And tha 2026gle

[4:21:35] Butte e of the sject.

[4:21:39] Proper. D the prop

[4:21:41] zoned Pb I just wd to

[4:21:43] be a ese projecese

[4:21:45] e agent pd dying 20

[4:21:50] and they 5 jor

[4:21:51] modifions r these

[4:21:52] prt have sine-family

[4:21:55] hos muchf the homeey

[4:21:56] have. The last te s

[4:22:00] down, whicwas year. So

[4:22:01] the d approvedd rezoning

[4:22:05] r he site. Shas te

[4:22:10] right up to230 units.I

[4:22:14] last t transferthe

[4:22:16] densit'm sorr actuall

[4:22:18] dca in Februa MARCH, the

[4:22:19] ju95oastal higzard.

[4:22:23] And eve, becauortion of

[4:22:24] thproject located, t

[4:22:28] wheezing, coastal ar

[4:22:31] 3 yearago and they did t

[4:22:33] transf 2024. Non astal

[4:22:34] high hard densit the

[4:22:35] subjprop, the base

[4:22:39] d stuff ase, 6 units.

[4:22:41] Last yeaey didn't m,

[4:22:43] modifition. So the chanc

[4:22:44] y t of the Pept

[4:22:48] plan. Pull she oe

[4:22:50] density located ithe

[4:22:54] coastal gh hazard. So

[4:22:55] that's w already tyear

[4:22:58] ey filed thTdu and Csthe

[4:23:01] ceified. The 9 non

[4:23:01] coashigh hazardensity

[4:23:04] off the site ahe ple. 95

[4:23:08] coastahigh has a un to

[4:23:09] site. Sot was downnd

[4:23:13] approvedy the boardthe

[4:23:16] lution. So basic aof

[4:23:18] to the si has 6 base

[4:23:18] nsity unitwhh could be

[4:23:20] cated in toastal has

[4:23:23] . An95 transferThe

[4:23:25] coastal s a densit

[4:23:28] site. So tse is actu the

[4:23:30] fa 2 of thpd. So

[4:23:34] come ful100 un 96ts

[4:23:35] would ocating thcoastal

[4:23:36] highhazardas and loced

[4:23:39] outside ast rea. So you n

[4:23:42] see these the zon You ca

[4:23:44] e as zone ng a x Sunday.

[4:23:49] Very spreazone. An

[4:23:50] these e U.S. A pwhich

[4:23:51] you e to the lthe

[4:23:57] city face oor 120 uts

[4:23:58] and then tse isn't nt

[4:24:00] one. They'reuesting

[4:24:02] these me tvacationor the

[4:24:06] approval face to ha 96

[4:24:07] resides. Units wbe

[4:24:08] locate the coast high

[4:24:10] hazarea nd for un

[4:24:11] would be led outsidef

[4:24:12] coastal hathe arnd his

[4:24:15] fidetails say frt,

[4:24:16] comprisi least allpd

[4:24:16] coions. Commsioner, do

[4:24:18] ve a quen?

[4:24:20] >> Yea just wanto

[4:24:25] clarify right nowe

[4:24:26] site is it's a tol of

[4:24:26] 68 acr. Is that ect?

[4:24:30] Yes.Whatapproved right

[4:24:35] noon thate.

[4:24:36] >> Therezoning aroved

[4:24:36] the si full up t20 30

[4:24:37] unit

[4:24:43] >> Total. Hony? 230? So

[4:24:44] they cou go build units

[4:24:50] on ight now. So thel

[4:24:50] final des. A plan at's

[4:24:51] approv by the PDoning.

[4:24:52] Sos already en approve

[4:24:57] r those yoy, ok? Does

[4:24:57] this a another 1f we

[4:25:02] apprthis now because w

[4:25:02] prove, thawhere that

[4:25:03] ndreds that it w little

[4:25:07] coing. Ad this bee

[4:25:08] it lookse we're adding 100

[4:25:12] ngle-familits to tha

[4:25:13] >> Yes, he proven to030.

[4:25:19] They d face one appral,

[4:25:20] units. So e sinful

[4:25:23] unit the to me try

[4:25:27] it we approvthis today

[4:25:28] >> Comeutsch: Th'll only

[4:25:29] beble to bui00, not 20

[4:25:30] Is tcorrect?

[4:25:33] Or these fes 0 face

[4:25:37] 122, whicis greenSo

[4:25:38] whole site u feel prod

[4:25:40] today thatould build222

[4:25:42] unitby the pd rezg

[4:25:44] approvedident. Youright

[4:25:47] o 230 unit

[4:25:48] But that'already be

[4:25:54] approved syes. D this.

[4:25:54] Sos doesn't d a new

[4:26:01] unit Now. What doethis do

[4:26:06] thatIt's a fina

[4:26:07] >> pt finatail say pn.

[4:26:10] Okay. Acrding to d9.45 p

[4:26:12] so you hav concept plan

[4:26:13] to rezing approvome back

[4:26:17] the bod.

[4:26:18] >> To apove the fiWhat

[4:26:19] we dday has noffect on

[4:26:19] thnumber unihat's

[4:26:21] consnt. Correct. L

[4:26:26] right. Tha you. Ou do. The

[4:26:28] esentationas a show.

[4:26:29] So Yeah. Younow, if yo

[4:26:31] ve any mo, ok, any

[4:26:34] qutions for f? Ok

[4:26:35] We're gonnen up thistem.

[4:26:40] 4. Ll, we alr have

[4:26:45] publ. Evsince we nt t

[4:26:49] nsent on Ld does thaan

[4:26:49] for thi write a?

[4:26:50] Anybody wiing to spen

[4:26:52] this lease comeward

[4:26:53] statour name f the

[4:27:01] record

[4:27:01] omm. Truexi'm name I

[4:27:05] muel Charl County

[4:27:06] rent. Talkinabout the

[4:27:07] and show nes in

[4:27:07] Chartte Countyne of

[4:27:12] thisd this is r thi

[4:27:12] em.

[4:27:13] >> If a to for taseya ok,

[4:27:14] I'm rry. That'ay. No

[4:27:17] prm. No probm. Any bills

[4:27:20] veus pecan Vo.

[4:27:21] And good ternoon.

[4:27:25] Coissioners.Well,l you

[4:27:26] , everybodtake a goo

[4:27:33] ok at thisPul.

[4:27:34] >> Iyou go onlright now

[4:27:34] you put anyou pull t

[4:27:37] build qualhomes. On't be

[4:27:41] shd at what u In,

[4:27:48] it. Do you homany milli

[4:27:49] of gallonswater are ed

[4:27:55] from Pol arty DeSo

[4:27:56] Manatee Cy of Northt

[4:27:57] cif p#

[4:27:57] #

[4:27:57] Gorn

[4:28:04] Charlottunty. Aou guys

[4:28:05] actual think we that

[4:28:09] extrter. Give to tse

[4:28:13] develope. Rporate

[4:28:17] caed. Corpo cronyism.

[4:28:18] At's what'going on h

[4:28:22] EverybodBecausuly at

[4:28:25] thoint n time,

[4:28:27] unfounately, o the most

[4:28:28] lligent th evsed to

[4:28:29] stbefore this chber is

[4:28:33] not re. And thatister

[4:28:38] RichRussell. Mist

[4:28:40] Richard Russelis a fw f

[4:28:45] informatn. And what woulhe

[4:28:47] be telli all of you right

[4:28:48] noou guys dn't listo

[4:28:52] me. Whatas it 3 4ears ago?

[4:28:53] Heasn't heren he

[4:28:55] suggd the morarium on n

[4:28:56] more issng a build

[4:29:01] permits. And yoknow wh?

[4:29:05] We've got time.

[4:29:11] I cdb. I a

[4:29:12] >> we got of pay tolay

[4:29:15] in this unty. And wee

[4:29:17] 11,000 hs for sal And

[4:29:21] then y all want ome

[4:29:22] here. 95ouses are he

[4:29:23] high f coastal ze or the

[4:29:27] fldplain areWhy d you

[4:29:29] guyst to approve

[4:29:31] someing? Why w you want

[4:29:32] to uprany mhousing

[4:29:36] depment in t county? U

[4:29:37] know, d a lovelyalk with

[4:29:40] door pits. I'sure you a

[4:29:42] know RichaHe not a

[4:29:48] dumm You knowt he I

[4:29:49] talk aboow, weo talk

[4:29:53] abouwater qual We talk

[4:29:56] t water qutity. And

[4:29:57] what'sng to bevailable

[4:30:02] toll of us. I want ebody

[4:30:03] in tchamber inn the

[4:30:05] countynd the citto

[4:30:06] derstand.

[4:30:06] >>o you wantknow where

[4:30:09] rld headed

[4:30:21] >> We're hded to to

[4:30:22] represtion. We'lnot yet

[4:30:28] fronof this. Yoe. If to

[4:30:28] me save e peace in

[4:30:30] myakka iChare Harbor.

[4:30:37] Are a few f you're

[4:30:38] ous about, you woul

[4:30:39] teennifer, is seen at

[4:30:40] yore going tet

[4:30:41] You're g to be witmay to

[4:30:43] comep with a p Not abo

[4:30:45] money. When we co back to

[4:30:53] th. Theind in wate

[4:30:55] ters will gorned here.

[4:30:56] D you knowt? We've r

[4:31:01] out guys, ter. Aft th

[4:31:01] meeting. Iave to heat to

[4:31:05] DeSoounty. Becausof t

[4:31:07] moratoriume the ai da

[4:31:08] centi wish I cod be in

[4:31:09] natee Countyid it beca

[4:31:12] having a ratorium v I I

[4:31:13] data cented you knowhat

[4:31:18] they wanto do.

[4:31:19] >> Bui nuclear actor to

[4:31:22] gerate powerfor tdata

[4:31:22] centThey want build in

[4:31:27] Noh Port. Not ju about

[4:31:31] have had wh tack change

[4:31:32] want to hearut.

[4:31:36] >> Cha We wan

[4:31:42] provementsn't have t

[4:31:46] water guys

[4:31:49] Every timy one of uin

[4:31:50] this cer do 10 t50

[4:31:59] props. That's water, 550

[4:32:00] militers Dr tance. And

[4:32:01] u know whait costs to se

[4:32:06] e-mail attorney TIt cost a

[4:32:07] battle of 850 mliters

[4:32:12] ofer. And u guys, yo

[4:32:18] got to htodaow all of

[4:32:20] voted for yoys that

[4:32:22] yoth us. Thaour

[4:32:26] commenk you.

[4:32:26] >>m. Tiseo: ank you.

[4:32:27] Anne else wig speak on

[4:32:28] is item. Pase come

[4:32:28] foard. You'lve 5 minut

[4:32:29] state. Youname. Thison

[4:32:32] va to y Abe.

[4:32:37] Gofternoon, chard.

[4:32:39] Litt. CharloCounty

[4:32:44] sidents. I belie that's

[4:32:45] wh they callinal detai

[4:32:48] site pup until weeks,

[4:32:49] mayb2 months ai had no

[4:32:50] what thats. I'm

[4:32:56] learniast. Tis more

[4:32:57] foe audiencet home wat

[4:32:59] us on tv. Is the time

[4:33:00] to involved cause of

[4:33:00] l detail. Te plan co

[4:33:01] with somet called

[4:33:04] coions. Nd unless can

[4:33:06] him anpeach one the

[4:33:09] conditionsthis is gog

[4:33:10] through nojust this

[4:33:11] delopment. E developme

[4:33:13] afterwardsIf it getsthis

[4:33:14] fafolks,f you wantn

[4:33:16] in develnt, this coun

[4:33:19] you've gotget invo at

[4:33:20] the mtings far re it

[4:33:21] ever to the fil details

[4:33:25] si plan. Unfornately, I

[4:33:27] thk if there'so faulting

[4:33:28] the nditions h this is

[4:33:29] g to be apoved

[4:33:29] regardss of how vacant

[4:33:32] lohere are. Because 's

[4:33:36] gotten tthe final ils

[4:33:36] silan. So fos at home

[4:33:39] geinvolved feyond.

[4:33:40] Lettthis t to a fin

[4:33:44] detail sitplan. Thanor

[4:33:44] your t Thank yousir.

[4:33:45] Anybodelse wishio speak

[4:33:46] onto please me forward

[4:33:46] ate your n For the

[4:33:54] rd. You'llave 5 minu

[4:33:54] >> MR. Cman, I seeo one

[4:33:55] else ring and waose

[4:33:55] publicut so thathe

[4:33:56] motion s to close ic

[4:33:57] input.There any rther

[4:33:59] discuson? There y

[4:33:59] oppositiono the moti

[4:34:05] public inps closed?

[4:34:06] Commissionoherty, Mr

[4:34:09] airman movapproval oto

[4:34:10] second, mo second to

[4:34:14] prove to. There any

[4:34:15] further diussion? Yei

[4:34:15] just wouike to yea we

[4:34:16] are at fal site Planeview,

[4:34:17] whicmeans it'sgot thugh a

[4:34:20] progion of pubc hearings

[4:34:21] and meet. I think ou

[4:34:24] look ae staff rert, this

[4:34:26] was in 2000. What

[4:34:27] that ain? When it first

[4:34:31] ? But comeck was 200

[4:34:32] >> firezoning Person 7

[4:34:36] yet 2005 t.

[4:34:37] >> Comm.Eo: Yes, o yeah.

[4:34:38] Thissn't new. Come

[4:34:38] backis differe

[4:34:39] iterationsnd some chs

[4:34:41] over the y. But I thk

[4:34:42] one of thepeakers that

[4:34:46] prom this to bpulled, we

[4:34:47] weren't ng units iexcess

[4:34:47] of wt it was ady

[4:34:49] approvor. I thinthat was

[4:34:50] point thathe boa

[4:34:51] wanted to ke. This ithin

[4:34:54] the ting 2 units, no

[4:34:56] extra. It'what was ready

[4:34:57] titled to. Property nt

[4:34:58] to make re we got on

[4:34:58] the recordIs there a

[4:35:00] further discussio Is there

[4:35:05] oppositionHeg? Ne

[4:35:06] that ps unanimsly 5 to

[4:35:07] 0.E areow going tmoven

[4:35:11] to regularand-use thb on

[4:35:14] And that iwas I cial

[4:35:18] star my left. Commisoner

[4:35:18] Deutsc

[4:35:23] >> And I tnk microone,

[4:35:24] them. At was Stepnie Visit

[4:35:25] thsite. Knhere was se

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[4:35:37] docunts. Commined

[4:35:37] alread

[4:35:42] >> a lot, Of my mohly

[4:35:42] staff brfing with unity

[4:35:43] deveent. The cnty

[4:35:45] attorney office in it

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[4:35:50] . I also h a meeting

[4:35:53] th Richard says the

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[4:36:08] of the nversation

[4:36:09] yeah, nume emails which I

[4:36:10] fileall of thahis

[4:36:14] morning.Than

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[4:36:18] of thawas filed led my

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[4:36:30] cord, Jay l me, he

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[4:36:36] alificatio a nning

[4:36:37] expeId a bachel's of

[4:36:41] act. Iyour degand a

[4:36:44] er of commity plaing

[4:36:44] degree. Have beingde by

[4:36:47] Chare County aa

[4:36:48] pressional per for mor

[4:36:53] an 22 year uthwest

[4:36:57] enering and sign. Is

[4:36:59] requesting peak Haitdrc.

[4:37:05] Dash 0, 75, ich is apd

[4:37:06] finatail site an

[4:37:07] approvalor the water sid

[4:37:14] storation oject. These

[4:37:14] projectsite contai

[4:37:17] approximat293 acres

[4:37:20] an located inorth of

[4:37:22] Burm Road in east, the

[4:37:23] co and subject prerty's

[4:37:24] alsoocated in ission

[4:37:30] dict. One. Se is a

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[4:37:37] Erty. This se 26 ego

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[4:37:44] age of thisubj

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[4:38:11] consideratby the board

[4:38:12] 26 2026.A consent ag

[4:38:17] item as board t, it was

[4:38:20] esented du the pup

[4:38:21] hearing and subsuent,

[4:38:22] contind to todaypublic

[4:38:23] aring. Thas why we'r

[4:38:31] re. Some MAY23rd 2023,he

[4:38:33] board ofCountyommissione

[4:38:34] oved ordince number

[4:38:39] 2023Dash, 0, 2, pd

[4:38:41] rezoniapprimately 740

[4:38:44] res and thubject

[4:38:44] propty. Well, final

[4:38:48] deta site plan.It

[4:38:51] eastportion ofroperty?

[4:38:55] Y's hearinis reed

[4:38:56] Charlotte ty code

[4:38:58] sens. Re Dash 9.45.

[4:38:59] Plned develot toure

[4:39:02] that the prosed pt fi

[4:39:06] detail saplans. It's

[4:39:09] constent with ted pd

[4:39:11] ndition come beingadopt

[4:39:12] dinance. Nber 2023, Da

[4:39:17] 0, 2, 0, Specificly on e

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[4:39:25] apd We juse that e

[4:39:28] deparment nsist 2 ph has

[4:39:29] showe propose neral pd.

[4:39:33] Cont plan. So I woullike

[4:39:35] to crify e u of phase

[4:39:39] onand phase 2 inse

[4:39:42] rezoning ilely for

[4:39:43] locaon purposed it's not

[4:39:45] tended to present th

[4:39:46] ission. ULasing of t

[4:39:49] project.

[4:39:56] To appved and add pd

[4:39:58] condition.E listed,

[4:39:59] rmitted actities and u

[4:40:03] in phase oSo thut

[4:40:05] total 7 permit

[4:40:05] actities and uyou can

[4:40:08] se tcreen. The firs

[4:40:10] e storation ect and

[4:40:13] spic us tastet fal

[4:40:16] teaches ping approis

[4:40:16] reired prior tohe

[4:40:18] commencent of the

[4:40:20] Restorion Projecand shall

[4:40:23] beimited to rm of 1

[4:40:26] ars calculat from dateof

[4:40:26] the l Pete fin details

[4:40:29] si plaapproval. Nr

[4:40:34] 2 and abendrange Grovto

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[4:40:40] anderstory vetation. And

[4:40:43] item 3. A tive plantnursery

[4:40:44] ted in the identify

[4:40:45] ursery andree farms.

[4:40:48] Can see on tprove pd

[4:40:50] ncept plannd nr full

[4:40:54] remo the old centst

[4:40:55] ees d excavati the area

[4:40:59] tomove removSo youm

[4:41:01] decades quaculturese.

[4:41:08] And er 5. Wesavingws

[4:41:09] mulch vegetion to create

[4:41:12] mpost for replanng native

[4:41:16] trs. And numb, stop

[4:41:18] hiding of ecuting man

[4:41:20] maturewant you tCade in

[4:41:24] area idened as

[4:41:26] stocile and the mamum

[4:41:27] heightthe. Shall be

[4:41:31] more than0 feet. Andalso

[4:41:34] e Ways Assess uses,

[4:41:35] cluding bunot lited to

[4:41:36] scarhouse and ing and

[4:41:41] eqent. So RJrea. And

[4:41:43] alsopproved d adopt ap

[4:41:48] nditions. Li t

[4:41:49] existingpermittetivity

[4:41:52] anes in phe 2. She

[4:41:54] see e why exisng

[4:41:54] mulchingration is rt of

[4:41:57] an appved. Isting

[4:42:01] commcial excavn permit.

[4:42:02] And nt to poinout there

[4:42:07] ispproved and add pt

[4:42:09] conditn e specificay with

[4:42:11] plie that pd rezoni is

[4:42:13] requed in orde implement

[4:42:14] the oved rule ming to

[4:42:17] d use mastean to hav

[4:42:21] mixture of resential and

[4:42:23] commer uses the tal the

[4:42:25] 0 acres. So r these fi

[4:42:27] detail pd fal dl say

[4:42:28] poin only for e astern

[4:42:30] portn of the ect

[4:42:31] properor the resration

[4:42:34] Projt. So you can on the

[4:42:38] sc. It sws approve

[4:42:40] Jenna pd ccept whichthe

[4:42:43] left also the propopt

[4:42:47] final ils. A plano you

[4:42:48] camparison. Ah.

[4:42:49] Substaially consnt th

[4:42:50] approvedenna pd concept

[4:42:53] t. The prosed. Pt fal

[4:42:59] detail s plan. So the

[4:43:03] res of the testing as

[4:43:04] ired by a pd condit

[4:43:09] j. I uded in e file

[4:43:13] mber 3 also apoved pd

[4:43:14] commisoner l welbeing

[4:43:17] ed only if thapplt

[4:43:18] removes excavated terial

[4:43:24] fromhe properti shou I

[4:43:27] kind of to talk about

[4:43:30] condion, ut is coupl

[4:43:31] slides yan see at's used

[4:43:32] a storation. You can

[4:43:36] e site for entirse

[4:43:37] and they wl have the

[4:43:38] storation ect sed,

[4:43:41] the center a you can

[4:43:44] see plan to ve Suse

[4:43:49] else fulof these restoratn

[4:43:50] project. Sthis is cene

[4:43:50] and thuth to andells 3.

[4:43:54] And e says aftnieces

[4:43:55] wn.

[4:43:56] >> Thesethe sitas will be

[4:43:57] prep for the fure.

[4:43:59] Who'llome to make sh But

[4:44:00] thate they muscome to

[4:44:05] board full pd rezoni

[4:44:07] So the ashown the te.

[4:44:13] And migation plo

[4:44:16] reduce tound der, fast

[4:44:20] equired by food. The

[4:44:20] condion it's ided in the

[4:44:26] le named fter Afric

[4:44:27] Mition plan. Sthat

[4:44:29] Africahas 7 app rovided

[4:44:31] no mition measurend

[4:44:32] older prenting andrespon

[4:44:37] measures a asked.

[4:44:38] Suression anair qua

[4:44:40] protectid also the

[4:44:41] ided surfa and

[4:44:47] groundter morninan. So

[4:44:52] the updat I traffiit

[4:44:54] study iso part of the

[4:44:55] package for the ocation

[4:44:58] ane file namis 9 under

[4:44:58] sc. Watersidexcavation

[4:45:04] I s. And en hisry. All the

[4:45:06] hurrice traffic the

[4:45:07] subjt propertiAlso p

[4:45:09] of the BCckage and e

[4:45:10] file me is 1her school

[4:45:13] rican hurrane traffiThe

[4:45:17] rican has asubmitted

[4:45:19] terside so and water

[4:45:22] quy memorand, which is

[4:45:23] cluded as 5.11,the bcc

[4:45:28] pae for thesitem. The

[4:45:32] transcpt for MAY23r23

[4:45:33] bcc adon hearingor the

[4:45:34] PDezoning foe suect.

[4:45:36] Proper is attached s

[4:45:39] filed numb 12. So I

[4:45:42] stamps professi pending

[4:45:44] prop pt final tail si

[4:45:48] plan compli wheeze thp

[4:45:49] pd ctions available

[4:45:55] answer any tions you y

[4:45:55] have.

[4:45:56] >> t you. Thanyou. I had

[4:45:57] ster Davidthe Thank.

[4:45:57] Thanyou. Yes, re

[4:45:58] recogn. Thank yo MR.

[4:46:02] Cherryounty timethe

[4:46:03] unty attory.

[4:46:04] >> This a little of an

[4:46:04] unuscircumstan or so

[4:46:05] ago. Little co of

[4:46:06] keepinems that Iant to

[4:46:06] makeure we geto the

[4:46:10] recoGenerallwhen we

[4:46:11] hearg, we do no back

[4:46:12] throh through the

[4:46:16] presenons ain, but t

[4:46:18] board dire staff

[4:46:19] essentiastart ov since

[4:46:21] is me like a rring. Then

[4:46:22] a contuance. Buty of

[4:46:24] thatat that mes is that

[4:46:27] applicant ll get ano

[4:46:28] opporty to puto the

[4:46:29] re the factsIt feels

[4:46:32] imrtant to iase. Hey'll

[4:46:34] be oortunity fhe puic

[4:46:35] to mcommentshin the

[4:46:36] saules that generally

[4:46:40] ply for thtypes oof

[4:46:41] hearingsi also wan have

[4:46:41] Dagoes come are my

[4:46:45] assiant county attney and

[4:46:46] to rd into theord the

[4:46:49] strd of revi for fo

[4:46:50] pd site approvIt's

[4:46:51] difft from zong. We

[4:46:55] don't back and the

[4:46:56] zoningnalysis. Tis just

[4:46:56] tolement theite. Plans

[4:46:57] uld like tve that ple

[4:46:59] in the recd. MISTER R

[4:47:00] wiour cordance s can

[4:47:01] haveclean hereAnd thank

[4:47:02] yo There's njection from

[4:47:04] the bod. You're recognized

[4:47:05] r.

[4:47:05] >> ButDavid was ose,

[4:47:09] Assistt Countyorney. He

[4:47:10] before theoard is

[4:47:11] approvr denial. E final

[4:47:14] detas site Thi not a

[4:47:14] rehearing the pri ring

[4:47:18] or gen pd ccept plant

[4:47:18] the apicant. The the

[4:47:20] initburden of owing that

[4:47:20] e plan complies wthe

[4:47:21] compreive plan Acal Burt

[4:47:24] plicable rulations athe

[4:47:25] requirents and tpproved

[4:47:27] PDditions anconcep

[4:47:28] ant. The boarmay consid

[4:47:31] the idence relt to thos

[4:47:31] criteria aay resoe

[4:47:35] factual colex in theord.

[4:47:37] If thplicant sasfies the

[4:47:39] applicablecreria, the board

[4:47:39] many the pla only upon

[4:47:42] mpetent ansubstaial

[4:47:43] evidencedentifyingcific

[4:47:46] unmeiteria. The b MAY

[4:47:47] deny the pla based

[4:47:49] sole on gelized

[4:47:50] oppoon or ren

[4:47:51] disagreeme with the

[4:47:53] priously appd pd

[4:47:55] enement and MAY no

[4:47:56] materily amendin. Then

[4:47:56] tiwent throu the final

[4:47:59] tails sitepl review. An

[4:47:59] oposed modication mu

[4:48:02] proceed r the code r

[4:48:02] or minodificatioprocess

[4:48:03] is aestablishmof the

[4:48:09] co code. Tha you.

[4:48:12] >> Wstand readister

[4:48:12] chaiswers. Manquestions.

[4:48:13] Got a lotsff over th

[4:48:14] transo the last nth or

[4:48:14] so we're avaable to

[4:48:15] answ those quens. And

[4:48:16] thposing to. We'll ha

[4:48:18] some answer you. Andf

[4:48:19] we don't, 'll try tofigure

[4:48:20] best way toaddress

[4:48:22] thquestions.Hank Thank

[4:48:23] u, sir. Anquestions

[4:48:25] staff befoove on to e

[4:48:26] applicankay. The a

[4:48:31] applicant n please. U're

[4:48:37] cognized, I just took

[4:48:37] MR. Vid,

[4:48:38] >> Com Deutsch: ad some

[4:48:38] dision on th maybe Tom

[4:48:41] n help me on this. This

[4:48:44] is restorn. The proct is

[4:48:49] part oBut twe were to,

[4:48:51] as I recalthe lasti

[4:48:53] talked abo that there

[4:48:53] thing thatded to be

[4:48:57] ored. Use there sn't

[4:49:01] a probm. Thsoil being

[4:49:06] ntaminated that corrt?

[4:49:07] MR. Chairew minutes

[4:49:08] me. Countyttorney wh

[4:49:09] would recoend sirs twe

[4:49:11] give the applicant rtunity

[4:49:13] toaddress yourstions. If

[4:49:14] u have queions for,

[4:49:14] they wil the best es to

[4:49:17] answerthosestions. A if

[4:49:20] not, wn have staff to

[4:49:20] justt to was tre a

[4:49:27] traffistudy? Youd?

[4:49:27] >> Ywe do havene of the

[4:49:28] trfic study. Many

[4:49:30] vehi per day dithey

[4:49:32] identi around a mber that

[4:49:36] great thinbecause rt

[4:49:37] of theson I'm is nt

[4:49:40] out thte. And I e

[4:49:45] Burma, r less you ry

[4:49:45] have to.Ou don't wto

[4:49:49] drive a, Road we dropped

[4:49:50] e speed lit there bee

[4:49:53] who are erned th safety?

[4:49:53] Think the eed limit

[4:49:59] 45. I s doing 50o 55 and

[4:49:59] 's used tr really bl

[4:50:03] me off theoad. If he's gog

[4:50:08] to be a ng operati. It's

[4:50:09] a ght. We dohave the

[4:50:09] fic study ere. Just

[4:50:11] look at. Bthe tropi,

[4:50:14] those in record, wh's

[4:50:14] that? The trc studies d

[4:50:15] they're OKthat's why

[4:50:17] rning, howy trucks per

[4:50:18] hour, because there's a

[4:50:22] ning opera. The es for

[4:50:26] me y could have 8, or 10

[4:50:28] ks an houroing love

[4:50:28] the, pullingand out of

[4:50:34] at site. Nto the 9,,

[4:50:34] we can tonht because

[4:50:35] traffic just conceed

[4:50:36] about puic safety use

[4:50:38] that'sou know, r busy

[4:50:42] all time. A to add

[4:50:45] anotr 100 truin and

[4:50:46] might be aety issue.

[4:50:47] Don't ow if thatnvolved

[4:50:52] heor

[4:50:53] >>r. Sheriffthink the

[4:50:54] thing y would llow

[4:50:56] the icant to aress it

[4:50:57] u raise thestions. I

[4:50:58] think l they havsome

[4:50:58] ents to th effect. Y

[4:50:59] can also ataff to trfic

[4:51:01] engineerin back. You

[4:51:02] any specific qions on

[4:51:07] trc that he'here dress

[4:51:07] that.

[4:51:08] Ut I wouldecommend t

[4:51:09] we let it rom as we n

[4:51:10] check ave to go.Isten to

[4:51:10] th. Thank yout maybe w

[4:51:15] n check onhe number how

[4:51:15] marucks per ur would b

[4:51:18] and out oat prty.

[4:51:19] And how many hrs a y

[4:51:21] because usuly that I

[4:51:21] mining otion, thers a

[4:51:23] lot of tffic. All righ

[4:51:27] Thank Thanu, sir.

[4:51:27] >>kay. The tpplicant I

[4:51:34] w recogniz to presen

[4:51:35] There's a out will srt

[4:51:37] when youtart talkii'll

[4:51:42] stt. Well, hdone have

[4:51:43] problem. Rtson, big law.

[4:51:43] I haveeen sworn irst and

[4:51:45] most. We aept shower

[4:51:49] xpert for this heari

[4:51:50] I'd like tart by ma

[4:51:51] sure at we all call why

[4:51:57] wee here. E's a MAY 9th

[4:51:58] 2026 mandum fr Marion

[4:51:59] Fran oning supeisor to

[4:52:02] the norable Boof County

[4:52:05] mmissionerregarding drc

[4:52:05] 25. 0, 7, final det

[4:52:09] site platerside phe on

[4:52:10] storation where inust a

[4:52:11] final details silan

[4:52:14] approvor water se pse

[4:52:15] one. The site isignated a

[4:52:18] le communiMixed use.

[4:52:19] Fil details consists of

[4:52:22] clring approxately 293

[4:52:23] or minus res of Cit

[4:52:25] Grove in rtoring

[4:52:27] proximatel63.3 7 acres to

[4:52:27] depth of 1feet. E

[4:52:31] excavatiill be backld

[4:52:33] and mpacted back to existg

[4:52:34] grade plusr-2eet. T

[4:52:35] area will gre open spac

[4:52:38] d restoredith severa

[4:52:40] erent natural getative

[4:52:41] communs and is csistent

[4:52:42] withhe county'

[4:52:44] compreheive plan a

[4:52:45] existingPDditions. T

[4:52:47] memo es on thathe final

[4:52:48] Sipeinal detaiite plan

[4:52:50] lies with alconditions

[4:52:51] well as b in complice

[4:52:54] with the final oved

[4:52:56] concplan. D the fina

[4:52:56] deils site phas been

[4:52:57] oved throu the site

[4:52:59] review pss. Psal will

[4:53:01] create anyncurrency

[4:53:02] ises. And baon

[4:53:04] analysis cusion set forth

[4:53:05] hein in aff's profsional

[4:53:08] opinn, the applicion is

[4:53:08] gerally sistent wi

[4:53:10] Charlotte unty's

[4:53:11] compreive plan. Charlotte

[4:53:12] unty's code ows and

[4:53:15] dinances a other

[4:53:17] applic guideline This is

[4:53:22] mply a proct ect where

[4:53:23] waste was ought in dg

[4:53:25] the aftethe Hurcanes.

[4:53:26] Land wasas tu into

[4:53:32] mulcThat was turned

[4:53:33] into cpost. The will be

[4:53:34] excavated remove th

[4:53:37] isting soid some shell

[4:53:38] and replacith the coost

[4:53:38] mixed wi sand that

[4:53:42] removed. I thyou,

[4:53:42] Commissi Constanceor

[4:53:43] requesti traipt of th

[4:53:44] iginal hearbecause I s

[4:53:46] not the atrney at th

[4:53:47] original hring, t there

[4:53:49] walot of talk duri our

[4:53:53] previo hearing inay, how

[4:53:54] board wasled being told

[4:53:56] at the sits contamined

[4:53:59] and need to be exced.

[4:54:00] Founately, ae en the

[4:54:02] tranpt is aglossy of

[4:54:04] all thter and eve time a

[4:54:05] terms sed, its givethe

[4:54:07] page numr and the line

[4:54:08] er, word continate

[4:54:15] is used oncehen our expert

[4:54:16] r soil tesed that th

[4:54:17] will will ar gloves when

[4:54:17] dointhe soil sampli. So as

[4:54:20] not contamina soil

[4:54:22] amination s never

[4:54:22] mentioned herwise. We have

[4:54:27] mel of he contentns. 4,

[4:54:29] approvalf the fidetail

[4:54:30] plan appro We haet all

[4:54:31] thnditions othe approved

[4:54:33] PDnd we ask your

[4:54:34] approv, MR. Bainl

[4:54:36] continue

[4:54:42] For the rd, Gary Ba,

[4:54:42] Southwest gine earrind I

[4:54:47] havebeen swo MR. Dunca

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[4:54:48] mem sorry. Yh. I just

[4:54:49] wa to make sthis

[4:54:53] hand This is f official

[4:54:55] rd. Yes. So th

[4:54:56] corrt. How we

[4:54:56] Commissiononstance, u're

[4:54:58] in the. Thank yoo I

[4:54:59] don't have a lem with t

[4:55:03] applicant d their rits. I

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[4:55:06] to t's absoluty no way

[4:55:10] th I caat I can lk

[4:55:10] ugh this, ng on and

[4:55:14] coume it. And so there's

[4:55:15] way that public had

[4:55:16] cess to th prior to

[4:55:17] meeting foem to be ae to

[4:55:20] reew it, to comments on

[4:55:21] it. Sohis puts us in a v

[4:55:24] difficult poon cause all

[4:55:25] handou, all all s that

[4:55:29] wee supposedo be.

[4:55:29] >> Com Constanceat are

[4:55:30] sued to dispyed in

[4:55:31] look at are sued to part

[4:55:31] the electnic recordor

[4:55:36] to the meeti. So I havck

[4:55:37] to t I don't kw if I

[4:55:38] wanto have throut or

[4:55:38] fro suggest at we have

[4:55:40] re here bse the pubc

[4:55:48] isitled to riew this.

[4:55:52] It's jusa summer bally

[4:55:52] fore.

[4:55:53] >> o I'm just st to sum

[4:55:54] itThat's all is pd

[4:55:58] coions.

[4:55:58] Comm. Tru: Commissi

[4:55:59] Truex. Y I was jusgoing

[4:56:01] say ifou look at I the

[4:56:01] Cayou'll note. It talk

[4:56:05] about all pd conditithat

[4:56:05] we ady have th

[4:56:06] informatioon. You hao

[4:56:08] more discuson. Just

[4:56:09] organized, just orge

[4:56:10] and laid. So it's

[4:56:11] differenformation.Nd

[4:56:11] what's aually avaie just

[4:56:15] lat more rea correct?

[4:56:16] Food riew Foremaeah.

[4:56:17] Wentthroh the firsuple

[4:56:18] of tabs and itust appear

[4:56:22] w they forded what w

[4:56:23] alrey have jusr easy

[4:56:23] tation, I gus to get t

[4:56:27] . If you wto look up

[4:56:28] eah, it's 's basical

[4:56:29] freeze in in this

[4:56:31] ing. If thcondition

[4:56:32] ought up, u have thect

[4:56:33] languaf that contion and

[4:56:35] thresponse iit's to ake

[4:56:36] the heing easier you

[4:56:42] guys you haveestions.

[4:56:43] >>an just yoill have t

[4:56:44] floor? So that's thcase,

[4:56:47] agaith wasnrepared

[4:56:48] today. Whyn't y includ

[4:56:50] is and hanthis over

[4:56:51] aff and hathemut a

[4:56:52] digita online? Use

[4:56:56] it, yoow, understand

[4:56:57] just doe't really ted

[4:56:58] when I going put part y

[4:56:59] prestation andn

[4:57:01] presenta became wao

[4:57:02] long onltitled to to

[4:57:07] through erything. The pd

[4:57:08] condions. I juon't h

[4:57:09] the time Iet that. Yhat.

[4:57:11] So It wanted to organ

[4:57:12] whate submitd for. Dr

[4:57:13] stl hasn't stted to

[4:57:14] Could theyot have suted

[4:57:15] this tbe added aan

[4:57:18] attachme to this im? I

[4:57:19] mean, just camewith

[4:57:23] lasteek like, oh,

[4:57:23] coissioners ng up.

[4:57:24] Nu one pointwell, taken

[4:57:25] on tnsparency.Hink

[4:57:29] anytwere handomething

[4:57:29] public's eitled to s

[4:57:33] what we'ven handed in

[4:57:34] nce. So ye, to in th

[4:57:35] ture will loaded upn

[4:57:36] our websito a digital

[4:57:37] at just toe another

[4:57:40] exbit. So we're cered.

[4:57:41] >> Com Tiseo: Andon't

[4:57:42] thin a have toave the

[4:57:42] attoey way intur other

[4:57:44] t. Mmissionerstance,

[4:57:45] I k of an applicant,ts

[4:57:46] to subsomething for t

[4:57:48] public recd. If we cdeny

[4:57:49] at, I thinthey're ened

[4:57:53] to subfor public recd.

[4:57:54] >> You'rtalking to

[4:57:55] county aney. We th

[4:57:56] arings thawe had gelly

[4:57:59] peopleowed to submi

[4:58:00] domentation.Ve taken

[4:58:01] sel documentas we've

[4:58:02] be here today. Sit's that

[4:58:03] is gener the that'MISTER

[4:58:08] Air. So I I think at the

[4:58:09] apant, if it part of h

[4:58:10] case ichf, he's ty

[4:58:11] he's aed to prest this

[4:58:15] as pt of his ence.

[4:58:16] >>m. Tiseo: d to your

[4:58:17] pot, I thinkay we've h

[4:58:19] at least 2r 3 outs that

[4:58:20] trying to through I

[4:58:21] e middle oe meeting at

[4:58:24] the publ doesn't h But

[4:58:25] do. Thist happens be

[4:58:26] able Mr.Hairman yopoint

[4:58:27] don't lookListenand

[4:58:28] need to back ame point.

[4:58:32] Ll look athem. But

[4:58:33] >> it ke every o thing.

[4:58:33] I the day ofts pretty

[4:58:35] ha to go thr it yet. But

[4:58:35] didn't undstand how as

[4:58:37] organi just wanto bring

[4:58:38] it up. Okahe applica's

[4:58:42] recogniz continualrt

[4:58:43] ur time.

[4:58:43] >>omm. Const: Good

[4:58:44] afoon. Commiioners jus

[4:58:45] nt clarifyouple thin.

[4:58:46] The slpresentati I had

[4:58:46] to f a couple lides that

[4:58:49] ey out of r same

[4:58:50] hts littleit differe

[4:58:54] Just like 3 ports ls.

[4:58:54] Thank for givings this

[4:58:55] oppounity to cback and

[4:58:57] ent the prect e

[4:58:59] detail th this it

[4:58:59] orinally wascheduled.

[4:59:00] Appeared oyour conse

[4:59:02] agenda, quite frkly. I

[4:59:03] wasn prepared give a full

[4:59:04] presention cause I di't

[4:59:07] think onwas cessary.

[4:59:08] Loing back. Tually gla

[4:59:09] 're here bse it gavee

[4:59:11] the opportity to go ba.

[4:59:14] Watch the cc hearingm 3

[4:59:14] yeago reviewestimony a

[4:59:17] really ink about at was

[4:59:17] the ggest misustanding

[4:59:20] ounding thproject.

[4:59:20] Before Iin, I'd li to

[4:59:23] clear upone pointe never

[4:59:24] reesented thhe soles o

[4:59:26] is propertwere

[4:59:27] ntaminateddurihe

[4:59:28] plannind zoning aring a

[4:59:30] concned citizen asere

[4:59:30] property mht contain

[4:59:34] ntaminatedls. Rather

[4:59:35] debate thissue. We

[4:59:38] aged to have sole

[4:59:39] teed. So we ly tain

[4:59:41] DaviBrown, hrologists

[4:59:41] torite specitions for

[4:59:42] ing the sos from for

[4:59:45] andoned Cius pros. A

[4:59:46] that is acly help pd

[4:59:48] ndition. Jame about.

[4:59:49] Today. We done exacy

[4:59:50] what we prom. The testg

[4:59:54] has een comple Th

[4:59:54] ports haven submitte

[4:59:56] d incln is exact at

[4:59:56] we expd. The soi are not

[5:00:00] coaminated. But we he

[5:00:02] consistent said ng the

[5:00:04] hearg waat the prorty

[5:00:04] has opered as commal

[5:00:07] Citrusve for deces. And

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[5:00:14] southwt Florida.Rus

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[5:00:41] aftethe concplanas

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[5:00:49] futured use desiation or

[5:00:51] CMtoemain permtly open

[5:00:52] space, wideied as an

[5:00:55] anned Citrus. Why

[5:00:56] t restore it to soin

[5:00:59] that pdea long-term

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Board of County Commissioners Regular And Land Use Meeting

Agenda

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