[3:12] [laughter] >> Everybody stand face the flag for the

[3:14] pledge. Ready?

[3:16] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

[3:21] And to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with

[3:28] liberty and justice for all. >> Amen.

[3:31] » Let us bow our heads in the spirit of reflection.

[3:34] Gracious and loving God, we gather this evening with humble hearts, grateful for

[3:38] the opportunity to serve our community. We ask for your guidance as we seek to

[3:43] make decisions that will shape the future of our town and impact the lives

[3:46] of all who call it home. Grant us wisdom beyond our own understanding, patience

[3:50] in our discussions, and clarity in our thinking. Help us to listen with

[3:54] respect, speak with honesty, and act with integrity. May we always remember

[3:59] that leadership is a privilege and service is a calling.

[4:02] Bless our residents, our neighbors, and all those who contribute to the

[4:05] well-being of this town. Let unity prevail over division, and

[4:09] hope guide our choices. In your name we pray. Amen.

[4:12] » Amen. >> Amen.

[4:13] » Thank you, Deb. We have a quorum, Deb. What's on our agenda?

[4:19] » We have the minutes to be approved.

[4:22] » Okay. Is there any discussion from the board about the minutes from last month?

[4:27] If not, I'd entertain a motion for passage.

[4:29] » I move. >> Okay. Any discussion from the council on

[4:32] that? If not, I'd entertain a motion.

[4:36] » I'll make a motion. >> We have a motion. Do we have a second?

[4:38] » I'll second. >> We have a second. All in favor, signify

[4:41] by I. >> I.

[4:42] » Opposed? >> I forgot about you, Brady.

[4:45] You can go now. >> [laughter]

[4:49] » Good evening. Um the typical disbursement request tonight, uh

[4:54] we've got SRF disbursement request number 54,

[4:59] um to Commonwealth in the amount of $39,847.

[5:05] And then, disbursement request number 59 to Yarberry in the amount Sorry, 55 to

[5:13] Yarberry companies in the amount of $243,655.

[5:20] And then, finally, a contractor overtime,

[5:24] um in the amount of $648.03.

[5:28] » 3 cents? >> Yes.

[5:30] » How many cents? I didn't hear it. >> Three.

[5:31] » 3 cents. >> Yarberry gave me I talked to Ray today.

[5:34] He is that they're pretty much Yes, so

[5:36] » last >> Yep. Yep. An update on that. So,

[5:40] um after the construction meeting on Thursday,

[5:43] um the town officials, Yarberry and

[5:46] Commonwealth, will be doing a substantial completion walk-through

[5:50] basically to come up with the punch list. So, things are are moving along

[5:54] » Okay. >> pretty pretty well on that project.

[5:56] » Just want to go over the skin number 54 is $39,847.

[6:02] Number 55 is $243,655

[6:06] and the contractor overtime $648 $648.07 and 3 cents.

[6:11] » Correct. >> Do we have any contingency money left?

[6:14] » I'd have to check. >> Okay.

[6:16] » Yeah. >> You can let me know?

[6:17] » Yeah. Are all the water lines done now? >> Yes, I believe so.

[6:21] » Okay. >> I think they're still doing a few

[6:24] follow-ups on the yards. >> Yep.

[6:25] » Okay. >> Yep.

[6:27] And that'll be part of what they come up with on the punch list so.

[6:32] » Okay.

[6:35] » Okay. Any questions for Brady? If not, we got to pay our bills. I'd

[6:39] entertain a motion to pay all those. >> I'll make that motion.

[6:42] » a motion. Do we have a second? >> I'll second the motion.

[6:46] » a second. All in favor signify by I. >> I.

[6:49] » Opposed, same sign. Okay, that passes Brady.

[6:52] » Thank you. And then the only other thing I'll mention is that we are

[6:55] still working with USDA on the well water plant project. Um there's been

[7:01] some requests on engineering contract items. We're trying

[7:06] to sort those >> [snorts]

[7:07] » out those details with them. So, it looks like closing on that maybe next

[7:12] month. So, that's what we're targeting. So,

[7:14] » So, >> things are are up for review with them

[7:16] right now. >> Is it just because we have a new

[7:18] new person overseeing it and they're just wanting different things?

[7:21] » We're trying We're trying to figure things out, yes.

[7:27] So, anyway. >> Thank you.

[7:28] » Yep. Any questions on that? >> Thank you.

[7:30] » Thank you. >> Thanks, Brady.

[7:35] » Council, we had Tai Chi. I think I said it right. Tai Chi.

[7:40] We had their first class today and again um, with the rain this morning, we still

[7:44] had a lot of people out. So, the Board of Health has done a great job

[7:46] partnering with us. And that's all about we have going on.

[7:50] Except September September the 2nd, we'll have our next senior outreach

[7:54] program. And I need the council to approve $2,000

[7:58] for that. >> 2,000?

[8:00] » Uh-huh. >> That's a great program reaching out to

[8:03] all of our seniors and giving them some activities. So,

[8:06] I'd entertain a motion for passage on that.

[8:09] » I'll make a motion to pass. >> We have a motion. Do we have a second?

[8:12] » I'll second. >> We have a second. All in favor signify

[8:14] by I. I. Opposed? Okay, that passes.

[8:19] Anything else, Deb? >> Um

[8:23] No. >> Okay.

[8:24] » Steve.

[8:32] » Hey, everybody. >> Nope.

[8:34] » Uh, I've got a couple little things here. Uh, nothing nothing too crazy. Um

[8:40] we, uh, had a couple of, uh, catch basins that have collapsed on our storm,

[8:46] uh, water and we need to get those replaced, uh, rebuilt and uh, we have,

[8:52] uh, uh, a bid put for 12,500

[8:56] even. Um, and those are, uh, the catch basins

[9:01] located at Little Avalon and Eastman and the one right over in the parking lot by

[9:05] the food pantry, um, near the splash pad area. And I was hoping to get it

[9:10] » water drainage, so >> Yeah.

[9:12] » Any discussion from the council? >> No.

[9:15] » I'd make a I'd ask for a motion. >> I'll make a motion.

[9:18] » We have a motion. Do we have a second? >> I'll second. [clears throat]

[9:20] » We have a motion second. All in favor signify by I. I. Opposed? Okay, that's

[9:25] good. >> All right.

[9:26] And um, uh, I do have a schedule for, uh, the

[9:31] EMB on the, uh, paving and milling and I'm happy to discuss that right now or I

[9:35] can send an email to you. >> You can send an email to us.

[9:38] » Okay. fine. All right. >> We're looking at Anderson Road

[9:41] mid-August, right? >> Uh Anderson Road actually is going to be

[9:45] milled and patches are done on the Veterans and Anderson Road area Thursday

[9:51] of this week. >> Okay.

[9:52] » Um Yep. So [snorts]

[9:54] » That's good. >> Uh they're moving right they're moving

[9:57] right along. I'm going to keep poking them. So

[9:59] » Okay. >> Um

[10:00] » Just stick it on our weekly email. That'd be great.

[10:03] » Absolutely. >> Okay. Thank you.

[10:05] » Uh you might have any any questions or anything. We don't have much else to go

[10:09] over then. >> Nope. Thank you.

[10:11] » Thank you. >> Jackie, do you have anything?

[10:13] » Uh no. Uh the guys have been busy. I mean, they

[10:16] drained uh on Mill Creek. Uh look like it's going to work fine, I think, once

[10:21] we get everything else finished. And then on the other side of Mill Creek,

[10:24] they've got that all done. Uh other than the paving and the

[10:28] concrete and whatnot. >> Yep.

[10:31] » Everything else looks like it's moving ahead real well.

[10:34] » Very good. >> Um Steve

[10:37] » They've done a great job. So >> They've done a good job.

[10:39] » Thank you. >> Fantastic. Before

[10:43] Before we move to new business, uh do we have any old business from the police?

[10:48] » I just wanted to bring up the National Night Out that the department had along

[10:52] with the fire department and um Chief Cole and and uh Debbie had some

[11:00] vendors there from the Anderson Library and um

[11:05] What was the other one? Sorry. Anderson Library and who else?

[11:13] » The sheriff came.

[11:20] » And >> Library

[11:21] » Very thankful for Dairy Queen for housing that event and and uh look

[11:26] forward to it for next year. >> [snorts]

[11:29] » Okay. All right.

[11:31] No more old business, we'll move to new business. I have Mr. Cunningham under

[11:35] new business. Do you have something to say, sir?

[11:37] » Sure. >> Right over there, sir.

[11:40] » You're at 7:15, right? North Street?

[11:43] » 7:18 North. >> 7:18?

[11:45] » Yes. Uh my name is Josh Cunningham. I do live

[11:48] at 7:18 North Street. I want to address a couple concerns um

[11:52] due to the water main replace. I think we are the last house, I think.

[11:57] Is that correct? I know we were there like last minute. Um

[12:01] during the rain today, that line whole line collapsed the where they filled in

[12:05] uh up at the house in the first I don't know 8 9 ft, it collapsed.

[12:10] Um so they'll have to come back out and

[12:12] take a look at that. I don't know why. I was going to catch them today, but

[12:16] obviously it rained, I couldn't. Steve, for you, um

[12:20] I think you came out so one of you guys came out and vacuumed out the

[12:24] drain there at Hall and North and Bean Street.

[12:28] It seems to be okay. I didn't pay a whole lot of attention to it going

[12:30] through there, but I think it's okay today, so that took care of the issue

[12:33] this time. All right. Most of you um probably don't

[12:37] know me. I know Jackie and Debbie do. Uh my name is Josh Cunningham. I've been

[12:40] part of the community here since uh the mid-90s, '92, '93. I was a member

[12:45] of the fire department for 13 years. Um I've lived on and off through the

[12:49] community uh since then. Uh obviously, we know we have an issue

[12:54] with manpower at the police department. So, as I'm seeing police officers leave,

[12:59] I'm starting to hear word that we have uncovered shifts. Is that true, Chief

[13:03] Cole? >> There is no Chief.

[13:06] » Yes, okay. And I do know that Delville comes and helps out, uh the sheriff's

[13:11] department comes and helps out as well, state police. However,

[13:14] uh just like we experienced the other night in Delville, they had a shooter

[13:17] over there and there was no coverage for us, well, the

[13:21] sheriff's department, but they can be up to half hour away. My problem is why are

[13:25] we losing officers? You know, I know there's what couple

[13:30] being hired or in the process or going through training. Is that correct?

[13:34] Um we're down to three paid officers.

[13:38] Uh my understanding is one part-time and two reserves.

[13:43] Has [snorts] that number changed?

[13:47] A few? Two, three, four? Is that about right?

[13:51] Okay, three. So, I was on one number off.

[13:54] We know that's not enough to cover the town.

[13:57] And to me that's a huge safety concern because we don't know where that backup

[14:02] is coming from. And listen, I'm 100% supporter of the

[14:05] police department. They have helped me especially this year have helped out

[14:08] dramatically with our own personal issues we've had at home and me and

[14:12] Chief Cornett is talking about that. Also Paul Paul has been out there

[14:14] several times helping us.

[14:18] If there's a problem, we need to identify why our officers are leaving

[14:22] and some of them are leaving because of better opportunities, but I'm hearing

[14:25] those better opportunities is because it's a better environment.

[14:29] Okay. I'd like to have I think the town

[14:32] deserves some answers as to why we're losing so many officers. We've lost

[14:37] I know that when you around the time you started Chief that there was at least

[14:42] eight to 10 officers as reserves. They're almost all gone.

[14:48] We had well at one point six full-time officers

[14:52] and for some reason we dropped that down to five. I don't know

[14:55] when that happened. Um

[14:58] but with crime on the rise nationwide, why are we dropping manpower for one?

[15:03] Because we need that manpower. And you've been around here for a long time

[15:08] as well obviously. Didn't we have at least two officers

[15:13] throughout the day and the evening at one point?

[15:15] » Uh they overlapped.

[15:18] » They overlapped. Okay. >> Yeah, most of the time they overlapped.

[15:21] » And actually I mean like I said, I've been here

[15:24] involved in this town since '92, '93. I want to see this town succeed.

[15:28] And I know for a fact when people find out that our police department is so

[15:32] under-manned powered at this point, they're not going to want to come here.

[15:37] We've got for sale signs everywhere. No one's going to be interested in coming

[15:40] here when the police protection is at the level it's at. I'm not blaming

[15:45] anybody, but

[15:48] this needs to be addressed, and we need to figure out why this is happening, and

[15:51] find a way to improve it so that we're not running into this situation again.

[15:55] You know, I we had all recently we just had one of our probably the most

[15:59] respected officer, no offense to any of the rest, but probably the most

[16:02] respected officer retired. And I know he wasn't seeking better

[16:07] opportunities, he was just frustrated. I know that.

[16:11] So, we need to figure out a way to identify where the problem's at, and

[16:17] fix the problem. Or else we're going to keep losing

[16:20] officers, these new guys coming in are going to say, "Forget this." They're

[16:23] going to leave, and we'll be right back in the same situation.

[16:26] » All right. >> And and I do want to say

[16:28] in the post that was made on the town's Facebook page, it literally stated all

[16:33] of the things that I had brought up, and then said it it started off as

[16:38] misinformation. >> Well, I'm going to respond to your

[16:41] misinformation. >> Yes.

[16:43] » Because you emailed me. >> Yes, I did. Yes.

[16:46] » Okay. And I responded that you had some

[16:49] misinformation apparently. And also, you're always welcome to attend a board

[16:54] meeting. As far as Facebook, you'd said you've been kicked off of Facebook.

[16:57] » Yeah, and I'm not blaming anybody on here.

[16:59] » Okay, so we don't know anything about that.

[17:01] » I'm just I'm just letting you know. >> But I also I also said you could contact

[17:04] the chief ahead of time, you could talk to him. I don't think you did that.

[17:07] » have not. >> Now, here's here's the area I was

[17:09] talking about you had miscommunica- or misinformation. We are now without

[17:14] police coverage for more days than we are covered. That is totally inaccurate.

[17:19] » Do you know that it's on >> That's on That's on your email.

[17:21] » Okay. >> And that's totally inaccurate. When

[17:24] when you say we don't have coverage, we do have coverage. It's just not our

[17:30] officers of Chesterfield and Madison County is doing the coverage. And the

[17:34] chief can explain that in a few minutes.

[17:39] So, I just want to clarify that with you.

[17:40] » Okay. Well, let's clarify. Chief, it's my understanding there's probably

[17:44] approximately 20 days in this month alone, past and and going to be in the

[17:49] future because your guys are still in training,

[17:51] that there will be at least a shift that is uncovered by a Chesterfield officer.

[17:54] Is that close to being correct?

[17:57] » 20 days? >> Approximately.

[17:59] I I may be a little bit off on that number, but

[18:01] » I don't think I understand the question. That's I'm not pretty sure what that's

[18:04] going to be, so I can understand it because that is

[18:06] not not what's on my screen. >> Okay. Okay.

[18:12] The information that has come to me is that there's approximately

[18:15] » Can you please walk me through it? >> Yeah.

[18:17] » So, so I can understand this because where are you getting your information?

[18:21] Can you can you bring this person in so they can

[18:23] » Uh no, I'm not going to reveal the people who come to me confidentially.

[18:26] I mean, shh. I'm not going to subject anybody in this

[18:30] town to harassment cuz what will happen, I know for a fact cuz it's happened to

[18:34] me in the past, there are uncovered shifts still to

[18:38] come. Am I wrong? By officers.

[18:40] Uncovered by Chesterfield officers. >> Until this training is completed.

[18:45] » Yeah, go ahead. Mr. Cunningham, would you mind Mr. Cunningham? We heard you.

[18:50] We understand what you're saying. If you want to have a seat, let him do some

[18:53] explaining. >> Well, I'm not quite done because I was

[18:55] still addressing you claiming that I have bad information.

[18:58] And this is clarification of that issue. >> F- F- First of all,

[19:02] it it there's never been a response that it's

[19:05] taken over 10 minutes, maybe not even 6 or 7 minutes to get to

[19:09] a call here that's that's an emergency.

[19:14] I have been in direct face-to-face contact with the

[19:18] sheriff and the sheriff has told me that he will

[19:22] have his area work car

[19:25] to be taking our calls if if they are needed.

[19:29] And he has done that. And he told me that they're they're glad to help.

[19:34] Um as far as any other response times, not only do we have the sheriff's

[19:40] department, Daleville definitely comes and they they've helped

[19:44] us, we help them. It Anderson Police Department, they're

[19:48] here to back us and so is the Indiana State Police.

[19:53] The um

[19:57] part of of people taking calls for us,

[20:01] sometimes the Chesterfield Police Department, we take calls for Daleville.

[20:06] » Yes. >> Sometimes we take calls

[20:11] for the Madison County Sheriff's Department.

[20:14] I have to personally taken calls for the Anderson Police Department.

[20:19] What it is, we all work together. We're united as a large group. We're different

[20:27] police agencies, but we work together.

[20:30] » Mhm. >> If we need back up, they help us. If

[20:34] they need back up, we help them. Um

[20:38] so I any time you or the people that

[20:44] um you say are they're giving you your

[20:46] information, I I even shared something with you

[20:49] earlier and I'm telling you again, please call me, we'll make an

[20:54] appointment. I'll meet with you and these other people and we can have a

[20:58] talk and I will show you what what what our schedules are.

[21:02] » And I would like to Listen, I'm not There's nothing

[21:05] You know, we're good. >> So that's the end of the problem.

[21:08] » Can I say something? >> Yeah, go ahead, Jack.

[21:10] » Uh for what I understand, I don't think no shifts has been unmanned.

[21:15] Just it wasn't a Chesterfield officer. >> No, and that's

[21:18] » We had the county covering that shift. >> And that's the point I'm I'm bringing up

[21:22] is we don't have enough Chesterfield officers to cover our night.

[21:25] » but they weren't unmanned. >> And I do agree, the sheriff's department

[21:27] has done a great job and they do a great job. Dilwyn does a great job, but they

[21:31] normally have what, one or two guys as well?

[21:33] » Sure. >> At any given time, usually two, I think.

[21:36] Um

[21:39] The sheriff's department can take up to a half an hour time, even though the

[21:41] sheriff's department, you know how long it takes sometimes. Now, normally it

[21:44] doesn't. But I have I personally because I

[21:48] not only was on the fire department, I worked as a tow truck driver, and I know

[21:51] that sometimes they're are just far too far away to get there in a timely

[21:54] manner. And I say that because how how quickly

[21:57] does crime happen? Does it happen over the course of 10, 15 minutes, or does it

[22:01] happen within a few minutes? >> Normally.

[22:03] » It depends. >> Normally a few minutes, the crime is

[22:05] over with. >> Okay. Well, that that, you know, that's

[22:08] a debate you can have with the chief one-on-one, okay?

[22:11] » And and >> We we We understand what you're saying,

[22:13] but you need to understand we hate to see officers leave for

[22:17] various reasons. I I I was in law enforcement for 45 years.

[22:21] » know. I believe you were. >> Okay. And and over the years, I've been

[22:25] I've been a patrol officer, I've been a police detective, a crime scene

[22:27] detective, assistant chief, chief, I've been an administrator.

[22:31] And people leave for all kinds of reasons. Better job opportunities. Some

[22:35] people leave because they don't like the way the administration is. Some people

[22:39] leave cuz they don't like the focus of the chief or their supervisor or their

[22:43] coworkers. Uh others just get tired of policing. There's a a lot of reasons.

[22:48] And in a small town like Chesterfield, it's a different type of policing. The

[22:52] demographics are different. It's a community oriented, and a lot of police

[22:57] officers aren't geared for community policing type activities.

[23:02] Uh they they want to be more traditional cops and sometimes

[23:06] uh, that offends them. They want to go be what they call so-called real cop cuz

[23:10] they sometimes don't look at community policing officers as real cops. So,

[23:14] there's a lot of reasons why I'm trying to tell you, but we have taken the

[23:17] appropriate steps. We have hired two new guys. We're at full complement. We just

[23:22] got to get them trained. We've got help. Uh,

[23:26] I feel very comfortable where we're at in the town right now moving forward.

[23:30] And I don't We haven't had any complaints about any police not showing

[23:34] up at any time. And we went over the schedule and we've

[23:38] got coverage for all of August. And yes, CPD, Chesterfield, is covering the

[23:45] majority of everything. There's only a handful that are not. So,

[23:51] » So, you're telling me that I don't what I'm talking about.

[23:54] » No, I'm not saying that, sir. I'm just I'm trying to assure you that we're

[23:57] moving forward. We need to >> I agree. We need to move forward.

[24:02] But the fact is, up until this point right now, without a reason I'm here, is

[24:06] because it had not moved forward. You got to find new training officers and

[24:10] you're working on that. It takes a while to train them. Am I wrong?

[24:13] I mean, listen, I'm a firefighter. It took a long time for me to get trained.

[24:16] And I didn't carry a gun. So, it's a bigger responsibility.

[24:21] Problem is, the town doesn't see it that way. The town sees empty spots and

[24:24] Chesterfield officers not being there. >> Okay. Okay. Okay.

[24:29] » But when you say >> Give me the answer.

[24:30] » say it's missing No, that's what I'm asking you. When you say that I'm giving

[24:34] you for misinformation, where it is just verified that we had

[24:39] our shifts aren't covered by Chesterfield officers, which is what I

[24:42] said. What is what I've been saying. I know county comes in. I know Dariel

[24:48] comes in. What about our own people? We don't have enough. The reason people are

[24:52] leaving is cuz they're not happy here. Why is it they're not happy here? Let's

[24:56] investigate that and solve that problem. Sitting up here telling the town that

[25:01] they're full of misinformation is not the answer because there is no

[25:04] misinformation. Other people they fly out on the town's website on the

[25:08] Facebook page misinformation. So that is either either directed only to me or the

[25:13] entire town. Cuz this is all over town. This isn't

[25:16] just a me issue. It's all over town.

[25:20] Many people have brought this concern up.

[25:23] It's not just me. >> Okay. Okay.

[25:25] » I know that the officers aren't here and I know that the officers that left, the

[25:29] majority of them are not happy with the way things have been going.

[25:31] » Okay. You've said your piece. We've heard you. We understand, sir.

[25:34] » to shut me up now. >> No, we will We understand, Mr.

[25:37] Cunningham. >> That's why you're shutting me up cuz I

[25:39] know what the town thinks.

[25:41] » Yeah. >> I'm part of the town.

[25:43] Jack, you know [clears throat] me. You know I speak the truth.

[25:48] I don't play games. I don't play political games. In fact, when I got

[25:51] hired the mayor opened the mayor's straight face and said, "I will not play

[25:54] your political games. So you either fire me now

[25:57] or let me go." That was my third day on the job.

[25:59] » Okay. Mr. Cunningham. >> play games.

[26:01] » You You made your point and and really

[26:03] appreciate you coming in and giving your your view on it, okay? And the chief has

[26:07] heard it. And if you got any concerns about coverage or anything, address it

[26:13] with the chief, if you would. >> He's got to listen to the people. He's

[26:16] got to remember so much. >> There's only so much we can do as well.

[26:20] We're doing >> No, you can investigate why everybody is

[26:21] leaving and solve the problem. But you guys have not done it. In fact, and I

[26:25] don't know who cut the six person six-man department.

[26:28] » Okay, I'll I'll Can I Can I Can I Can I explain it to you real

[26:32] If you'll give me the Okay. All the officers voted, agreed to

[26:37] go from six to five so we could get their pay up to be comparable with other

[26:42] towns so we didn't lose people, okay? >> why I just signed up for the reason for

[26:46] that. >> Yeah.

[26:49] » I didn't know that was the reason they answered. Why are we cutting jobs for

[26:52] five? When time is on an up city period where

[26:55] » Well, that's why you That's why you should attend meetings to

[26:58] learn this information instead of second-hand information. And the person

[27:03] that you're talking to, or they a part of the current administration?

[27:08] Are they part of the current administration? Yes or no?

[27:10] » I don't know. Once you made that decision

[27:12] » No, the ones that you're talking to, are they part of the current administration?

[27:16] So, they don't have any of the correct information.

[27:18] » And people have talked to >> That's That's the past.

[27:21] » I know. >> No, I have not. I've never been a police

[27:23] officer. No. >> Okay. So, I know you know what we're

[27:27] aware of the shortage of manpower that this park

[27:30] And what? The bad environment and whatever area

[27:34] would damage it and cause to be an organization. [clears throat]

[27:36] » Yeah. Sir, you've made your point. I understand exactly what you're saying. I

[27:41] I I I I respect what you're saying. I understand. We understand what you're

[27:45] saying. But, you're wanting us to do something

[27:48] that we can't do right now. We're trying to move forward, get the officers back

[27:52] up to par uh at the compliment. So, I understand what you're saying.

[27:56] » I've never claimed we could fix the problem right now.

[27:59] What I'm saying is let's investigate. Let's find out what the problem is. Why

[28:04] so many officers are leaving and are not happy. Most of them wanted to stay here.

[28:08] But, for various reasons that were not pleasant, have left.

[28:12] Why is that? >> Okay.

[28:13] » There's a reason for that. >> That's That's the That's the 10th time

[28:16] you said it. We heard it. We understand it, sir.

[28:18] » Okay, you're taking it away from me. I want this board

[28:21] » No, it's your opinion. We're listening to your opinion.

[28:24] » It's more of my opinion. And that tells me everything I need to know that this

[28:28] board refuses to investigate why we are losing officers.

[28:32] » Okay. Well, we're we're done. We're done. Thank you. We're done. We've heard

[28:35] you. We've heard you, Mr. Cuttingham. Appreciate you living here in town.

[28:39] Appreciate your opinion, sir. Does the board have anything else?

[28:44] » No. >> No.

[28:46] » Okay. Anything else from the audience? Mr.

[28:48] Cutting Hand had his time. Does anybody else have anything?

[28:52] Uh Yeah, you run all the crime statistics

[28:56] throughout the whole state. You know crime's down now.

[28:59] Okay. Yes.

[29:03] » Countrywide.

[29:07] » All right, I'll do entertain a motion for dismissal.

[29:10] » I'll make that. >> I'll second. We have a second. All in

[29:13] favor? >> I.

[29:14] » All right, thank you.

Town Council Meeting, August 11, 2026

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