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[1:57] all right let's begin with a roll call

[2:01] Mr Gary Libby here Mr Robert Ellis here

[2:05] Mr Gary

[2:07] kopos Mr Vernon weatherholt here miss

[2:10] Helen humph here Miss Amy pile here Mr

[2:14] William bidor here Mr Raymond M here

[2:19] excellent all right now that we have

[2:21] that done let's all stand and do our

[2:22] Pledge of

[2:28] Allegiance un States of

[2:31] America the for it stands one

[2:36] nation indivisible liy and justice for

[2:41] all

[2:43] amen

[2:47] yes all right now we're going to go to

[2:50] approval of our previous meetings

[2:52] minutes it appears that we have two here

[2:55] uh one for June 12th and one for August

[2:57] 14th I'll move approval of the June 12th

[3:01] do we have a second second all those in

[3:05] favor of approving our June 12th meeting

[3:07] minutes say I I I all those opposed

[3:10] seeing none that's approved uh now move

[3:14] on to our August 14th meeting approval

[3:17] do we have a motion I'll so move

[3:20] approval second all those in favor hi hi

[3:25] all those opposed seeing none we move

[3:28] forward and could I mention minutes were

[3:30] terrific that was a tough meeting to do

[3:32] minutes for and I salute you and you got

[3:36] the colonels of everything that was

[3:37] going on and very very well done thank

[3:40] you

[3:41] for she did a great job do we have a

[3:44] police report for let's go a can we go

[3:47] ahead and get that out of the way before

[3:48] we do staff and everything you guys good

[3:50] with that you come on

[3:52] up she's a good

[3:55] cop everyone hello hello hello you

[3:59] haven't met I'm Lieutenant Burns I cover

[4:01] the uh District 2 the East Side uh for

[4:03] Daytona Beach Police

[4:05] Department um for the last two weeks

[4:08] we've had

[4:10] 1,774 calls 315 reports 44 felony

[4:15] arrests 93 misdemeanor arrests 412

[4:20] traffic stops 323 citations from those

[4:24] traffic stops

[4:26] 355 um field interview cards

[4:30] and 42 courtesy cards 29 toad Vehicles

[4:34] 43 vehicle crashes three were DUI

[4:37] arrests 24 city ordinance violations and

[4:41] 19 arrests for trespassing or Park rule

[4:44] violations wow um 24 arrests were made

[4:47] for domestic related offenses in our

[4:50] district there were four aggravated

[4:52] assault incidents all of which were

[4:54] cleared by arrest there were five

[4:57] burglaries um three of which were

[4:59] cleared by arrest four car brakes and

[5:03] one of those was cleared by arrest three

[5:05] stolen vehicles one of those was

[5:08] recovered and um there were no robberies

[5:12] last two weeks so that's really good um

[5:15] we have officers that continue to check

[5:16] under the uh Bridges and through the

[5:18] city parks and they we we did 32 arrests

[5:23] for that um in Jackie Robinson we've

[5:26] been focusing there and there were 11

[5:28] arrests made there

[5:30] and every weekend we hire overtime for

[5:33] the seab breze corridor the bar area and

[5:36] during this time we had 37 calls five

[5:39] reports 94 traffic stops 77 citations 10

[5:44] parking violations um three felony

[5:47] arrests actually one of those uh

[5:49] resulted I think in two recovered guns

[5:53] uh 15 G of cocaine and 13 G of marijuana

[5:57] and that was one of our sergeants that

[5:59] was on over time over there so that was

[6:00] a really good one um we had that felony

[6:03] arrest we also picked up um one of our

[6:07] detectives also picked up a wanted

[6:09] person who uh is a violent criminal

[6:12] picked him up on seab breze as well uh I

[6:14] think that might have been two weekends

[6:16] ago um so they're really active out

[6:19] there on the weekends and uh hopefully

[6:21] we're making something kind of

[6:22] difference out there so um we're right

[6:25] now planning or at least preparing for a

[6:28] possible truck October uh event and then

[6:33] uh biketober

[6:34] Fest is that sanctioned the truck to

[6:38] test I don't believe so so it's just a

[6:41] potential one we're not sure because of

[6:43] Pas times um we're just kind of planning

[6:46] for it in case it pops up who covers

[6:48] that Val uh valusa County the sheriff's

[6:51] no on the beach oh on the beach is the

[6:54] sheriff yes MH up on land is up even if

[6:56] it's not sanctioned they will yeah just

[7:00] Patrol is normal than as soon as well as

[7:02] soon as the sheriff puts out that

[7:04] warning now the um how they can have

[7:07] their trucks like if it's an event a

[7:09] popup event where everything is enhanced

[7:12] it usually it usually stops it from

[7:15] happening absolutely that'll probably

[7:17] happen in this one hopefully thank you

[7:19] MH uh from what I've seen seab Bree has

[7:21] had a very positive impact since you

[7:24] know Kudos did the police department

[7:26] doing a great job I think that the

[7:28] cameras are helping a lot because it's

[7:31] really on the minds of the criminals

[7:33] they've actually complained about it I

[7:34] run a sober house in Pearson I run a

[7:37] sohouse and Pearson also and they're

[7:39] complaining about like I don't want to

[7:40] sell drugs in Daytona because they got

[7:41] cameras that's great go somewhere else I

[7:44] have to tell you those cameras from my

[7:47] perspective are fantastic whoever idea

[7:50] that was it was

[7:52] amazing our

[7:54] commissioner stck we had the a potential

[7:58] um

[8:00] situation over on the West Side still

[8:01] being investigated so I don't want to

[8:03] talk about too much but it started over

[8:05] on seab breze and we were able to track

[8:07] because of the cameras we can track the

[8:09] person's every movement and identify and

[8:12] then we have um other things that we can

[8:14] focus on to identify people so those

[8:16] cameras are amazing what what I'm trying

[8:19] to do on uh and Cuda is on South Grand

[8:21] View because there was like a major Pro

[8:23] everybody was parking in front of and that got taken care of and it um

[8:28] it's going to slow down a little bit I'm

[8:29] working along with the city I'm putting

[8:31] cameras up there on South gra View and

[8:33] across East ISB so so that way I don't

[8:37] know how I get those to the police

[8:38] department we'll have to figure that out

[8:40] it's great it's great those cameras are

[8:42] doing amazing it really does yes and I

[8:45] want to commend you we have cameras all

[8:47] over my business we had no problems but

[8:50] at night one night we did have a group

[8:53] that moved in and thought they could

[8:55] just live there yes ma'am and I called

[8:57] came immediately I love that thank you for that thank

[9:08] you does anybody else have any other

[9:10] questions comments no oh all right all

[9:13] right thank you thank you for having me

[9:15] thank you thank you thank you you're

[9:16] welcome thank you all right now we have

[9:18] a commercial property Improvement

[9:20] funding request for is this for 615 Main

[9:23] Street or 614 cuz I saw both 615 and 614

[9:28] both okay that's what I thought was I'm

[9:31] sure um Mr chairman for the record Mr um

[9:36] kopulos is present y he sure

[9:41] is um good evening I'm Angela amstrong

[9:44] project manager for the Main Street and

[9:46] South Atlantic CRA and tonight I'm going

[9:49] to present item number six which is the

[9:53] commercial property Improvement funding

[9:56] request for 615 Main Street

[10:01] Mr Tom guest applicant and owner

[10:04] representative is requesting the

[10:06] Redevelopment board to approve the

[10:09] request for funding through the 0%

[10:12] interest loan commercial Improvement

[10:14] incentive

[10:16] program the property is located at 615

[10:20] Main Street between white Olive and

[10:23] South o Leander

[10:26] Street review of and the decision on the

[10:30] commercial incentive application shall

[10:32] be based on the following

[10:34] preconditions is it a conforming use the

[10:37] subject property is in the rdv2

[10:40] Redevelopment bite specialty retail

[10:44] zoning District which allows retail

[10:47] sales and services as a principal use

[10:51] this property is a conforming use within

[10:53] the zoning District does the property

[10:55] have any delinquent adalan taxes or

[10:59] Municipal of County Lans a staff has not

[11:02] found any delinquent ad Balor taxes or

[11:06] County Lans on this

[11:08] property how the project will contribute

[11:11] to the elimination or prevention of a

[11:14] slum and bl this subject property is in

[11:18] one of our core areas the applicant is

[11:21] proposing the the replacement of all 34

[11:25] is 34 or 39 Windows to bring the bu

[11:29] building into

[11:32] compliance and this is a picture of the

[11:35] building as you can see um the windows

[11:39] have been never changed and um you know

[11:43] it's causing every time it rains it has

[11:47] um leaking through the window so they

[11:50] need to change

[11:52] it this is another side of the

[11:56] building those are the windows that

[11:58] needs to to be

[12:00] changed these will all be impact Windows

[12:03] correct yes

[12:07] okay if F staff recommends approval of

[12:10] the commercial Improvement grant for 615

[12:13] Main Street in the amount not to exceed

[12:17] $50,000 a majority vote by the Vite

[12:20] Redevelopment board members present and

[12:23] voting is required to recommend approval

[12:26] to the Comm City commission the

[12:28] applicant is here if you have any

[12:30] questions you can um I know that we have

[12:33] on the pipeline more Improvement to this

[12:36] building but this is the first um the

[12:39] first one because it's most needed on

[12:41] the building that was going to be my

[12:42] first question yeah I answered that then

[12:46] um do you know are is there going to be

[12:48] Central HVAC or after the windows go in

[12:50] are they going to be open with uh window

[12:55] shakers gu

[13:00] [Applause]

[13:05] Mr chairman members of the board City

[13:07] staff uh I'm Tom guest uh uh and I'm the

[13:11] manager of this building which is

[13:13] actually uh legally uh 614 Main Street

[13:17] okay the uh windows are going in all

[13:20] upstairs which is the address of 616

[13:23] Main Street

[13:26] I that's across the street in the city

[13:28] parking lot in the county parking lot

[13:31] okay okay now what was the question um

[13:33] are you guys going to put HVAC upstairs

[13:35] Central HVAC or is it going to be the

[13:37] window units in every window it's going

[13:39] to be window units window units are are

[13:41] you guys finding that when the rain

[13:42] comes through you're having a lot of

[13:43] leaks through where the window units are

[13:45] too no no these windows uh I've been an

[13:49] occupant of that building since 1985

[13:51] okay Windows not have not been changed

[13:54] before I came into the building in a

[13:56] while and uh you know they're they're in

[13:59] really really bad shape we have done a

[14:01] lot of repairs a lot of patching on

[14:03] these windows over the past years that

[14:05] I've managed the property and uh it's

[14:07] gotten to the point where uh theyve just

[14:10] got to be replaced M and it will you

[14:12] know it's going to be all white vinyl so

[14:15] it's going to uh improve the the uh

[14:18] Aesthetics Aesthetics of the uh

[14:20] building uh and the area because they're

[14:23] going to match the I've got sliding

[14:24] glass uh doors which are white vinyl

[14:27] down on the first floor so it's going to

[14:29] match very nicely and uh uh the pictures

[14:32] don't show it but if you if you get over

[14:33] close and you look at these windows

[14:35] they're uh they're almost as old as I

[14:38] am yes sirad yeah Tom what are what are

[14:41] the uses upstairs what spaces be used

[14:45] for there's 11 Apartments upstairs oh

[14:47] there are Apartments 11 and wow

[14:50] downstairs there businesses downstairs

[14:53] five five business locations five stores

[14:56] okay okay which five stores are

[14:58] downstairs

[15:00] uh well I just can't think off the top

[15:02] of my head I know I'm the corner but I'm

[15:04] St well starting at 608 you've got uh

[15:08] cigar guy uh uh six uh 610 you've got a

[15:14] uh leather

[15:15] Merchant 612 is silver

[15:18] jewelry uh 6 14 614 is uh some yeah I forget the name of the

[15:30] business but it's it's it's paintings

[15:32] that you that they I know the block

[15:33] you're talking that they play music out

[15:35] of t-shirts on the corner okay all right

[15:38] does anybody else have any other

[15:39] questions for Mr gust are there I mean

[15:42] are there people living in the apartment

[15:43] oh yes yes I have one vacant one right

[15:47] now but for the most part I keep them

[15:50] pretty much

[15:51] occupied they've stayed rented over the

[15:53] years they really have so sorry hi Tom

[15:59] uh so my question is about um you you

[16:01] mentioned there were other improvements

[16:03] going to be happening to this building

[16:06] um are there is there

[16:07] other uh grant money available say for

[16:11] the awning and some of the things going

[16:14] on down stairs I mean I know this is two

[16:17] different things but I'm just you're

[16:18] asking me or you asking well I can I can

[16:21] you know I'm I'm wondering because

[16:22] looking at it I mean I'm just to me it

[16:25] would be nice to have a new warning

[16:28] there as as far as the main street

[16:30] streetcape and then um also you know I

[16:33] would talk about show Windows what's

[16:35] going on in the show Windows which you

[16:37] might have some influence since these

[16:38] are your tenants um we could you know I

[16:42] just kind of wonder what you thought

[16:43] about that um the business owner are

[16:46] entitled to apply for the grant so we

[16:51] changed the owning and one of the

[16:53] tenants already has the application so

[16:55] we can oh great great so we can improve

[16:58] the excellent so that that's that'll be

[17:00] more improvements to the building that's good to hear um and then I just I

[17:04] mean because I have I have to ask

[17:06] because we've been discussing the view

[17:09] the storefront views of buildings that

[17:11] aren't used except during biker events

[17:15] you know we're we've been discussing

[17:18] options for you know some like it would

[17:21] be

[17:22] beautification to have Windows either

[17:24] have some sort of a you know I don't

[17:27] know if it's called a wrap or a you know

[17:29] they make these kind of decal things

[17:30] that look attractive like instead of

[17:32] just the white paper for example now

[17:34] this isn't really have anything to do

[17:36] with the Grant and I wouldn't like I'm

[17:38] not going to vote against the Grant in

[17:40] any way this but if you have influence

[17:42] with your tenants that are in those you

[17:45] know as far as your leases and so on is

[17:48] there any way to kind of Step Up the

[17:51] game as far as what we see from the

[17:53] street I believe there is and there was

[17:55] something I mean the said many years ago

[17:58] I remember the city did this the city

[18:00] had a plan and uh if you wanted to order

[18:03] them from the city would make uh some of

[18:05] these different screens whatever you

[18:07] want to call them appliques so that uh

[18:10] you could actually see out of them but

[18:12] you couldn't see in right you know and

[18:15] it could have something decorative on it

[18:16] yes they had they had all kinds of

[18:18] different scenes you know beach scenes

[18:21] Mountain scen so you kind of like that

[18:22] idea that yes yeah absolutely all right

[18:26] thanks it's something we we've been sort

[18:28] of think smart idea thanks all right

[18:32] anybody else oh I just was curious who

[18:35] owns the building then oh it's Nesco

[18:38] Associates LLC it's uh it's a couple people from Winter Park okay they

[18:44] bought it in 2010 MH I started manag I I

[18:48] was in there I had a retail business uh

[18:51] which I retired about that time I became

[18:54] manager of the building a couple years

[18:56] before that and uh when they bought the

[18:58] building they said they were interested

[19:00] in buying it but only if I came with

[19:03] it that was the exact statement at the

[19:05] time so here I am what a

[19:09] deal all right well we have to wait on

[19:12] Mr Libby to get back here thank you

[19:15] we'll move

[19:16] forward thank you thank you Tom

[19:28] [Music]

[19:32] yeah while while we're waiting I mean I

[19:33] think I feel like we've mentioned it I

[19:36] guess I've thought about it so much

[19:37] sometimes I forget whether we've talked

[19:39] about it but the you know the screens

[19:40] that he's talking about it's kind of

[19:41] like a pierced decal you know that

[19:44] perforated ones a perforated one that

[19:46] you know could have you know if if there

[19:50] was some oversight of what went on them

[19:53] and it wasn't just arbitrary you know I

[19:55] think it oh actually I think it's

[19:56] something I might have put in my suggest

[19:58] questions now that I think about it so

[20:01] we'll probably get to that anyway I'm

[20:03] done what item number is this joh this

[20:06] item number

[20:09] okay all right thank you we'll have

[20:11] public comment John

[20:15] Nicholson nichon 43 North Grand Avenue

[20:18] the picture that they showed you look at

[20:20] the awning on that corner building could

[20:23] it be repainted I mean given the fact

[20:25] that we're giving this loan and it's to

[20:27] enhance the building

[20:29] that takes away from everything on the

[20:32] building and secondly the

[20:35] um what do they call it there's a name

[20:38] for it now the painting on the side the

[20:40] mural the mural uh is there way is there

[20:43] a time frame because I know we allowed

[20:45] it years ago uh it's getting kind of

[20:49] faded and there's another one down the

[20:50] street also Getting Faded uh is there a

[20:53] time frame on refreshing the murals I

[20:57] think the one down the street got repain

[20:58] it already John yeah yeah it did for

[21:01] sure the one down the street did I don't

[21:03] believe did you hrey did you yours I

[21:05] believe Tom's going to answer I have a

[21:07] application because I'm having the whole

[21:09] thing redone there's one on the corner

[21:11] of the building I'm in as well that on

[21:13] the corner yes because I didn't know

[21:15] whether we had a

[21:17] um a rule in it when we okay it because

[21:21] we did that 40 years ago with the light

[21:23] bulb Gary you will remember light bulbs

[21:26] and the fluoresence and whatnot that we got rid of them because they weren't

[21:31] being changed and whatnot so I'm

[21:33] wondering if we did that thank you thank

[21:34] you John and as M Armstrong stated uh uh

[21:38] the tenant in the corner of the building

[21:40] in the corner shop has already put in an

[21:43] application to replace the awning not

[21:46] just repair it replace it because it's I put that awning up there back in the

[21:51] uh '90s uh it's been replaced several

[21:54] times but it's uh right now well we used

[21:57] to be able to make them with

[22:00] canvas City won't allow that anymore you

[22:02] got be made with vinyl vinyl does not

[22:04] last over there vinyl will not last on

[22:07] the beach side so that's only uh I mean

[22:10] looking at the awning it is deplorable

[22:13] it's only five or six years old yeah MH

[22:15] and we've cleaned it many many times

[22:18] know as far as the mural on the end of

[22:19] the building uh I've been speaking with

[22:22] the several different people to get it

[22:23] to repaint I also put that on the

[22:26] building back in the 990s and uh

[22:29] it has been

[22:30] redone I think four times since then you

[22:34] know the paint just the weather's har

[22:36] bee side they don't last long got to

[22:38] redo so anyways yeah those are things

[22:40] that we are we are taking care of okay

[22:43] thank you for answering that Tom last

[22:45] comment Tom are you aware that Main

[22:47] Street is a national register of

[22:50] historic District's location not local

[22:53] but National I've heard rumors about

[22:56] that I the rumors are I I don't know

[23:00] exactly and the only reason uh I'm very

[23:03] glad you're doing what you're doing and

[23:04] I think the program is excellent because

[23:07] we we're in a little bit of a conundrum

[23:09] there when it did not go forward for

[23:12] local designation because with local

[23:14] designation would come all kinds of

[23:16] requirements design standards and the

[23:19] kinds of Windows and things like that we had a commission that that uh we had

[23:25] like three or four historic local

[23:27] historic districts in a row and the city

[23:29] was getting you know right right up to

[23:31] here with history unfortunately right um

[23:34] so I salute uh your doing this and

[23:37] taking advantage of this program I'm

[23:39] very glad we have this program I think

[23:41] it's an excellent one it'll get these

[23:43] buildings up to a standard now that make

[23:46] them make the rents you know more

[23:48] rentable the physical spaces better the

[23:52] income uh better for these properties

[23:55] and therefore the street better as well

[23:57] so thanks very much

[23:59] we're doing whatever we can down there

[24:00] and the windows are a triple pain yeah

[24:04] okay with the outside hurricane and

[24:06] double pain in between with the gas in

[24:08] between it to uh maintain heat and heat

[24:12] and cooling those are the best ones

[24:14] absolutely the best ones thank you

[24:16] Tom all right I apologize for running

[24:19] out I got a silent alarm somebody was

[24:21] trying to get into my car so I went down

[24:24] and checked it and it's we're fine it's

[24:25] everything they didn't couldn't get in

[24:28] all right well I'd like to make a motion

[24:30] we approve this that's what I was just

[24:32] going for yeah I'll second the motion we

[24:34] have two seconds there all those in

[24:36] favor say I I I all those opposed seeing

[24:41] none or approved 615 Main Street

[24:44] pleasure sir thank

[24:46] you all right got that now one window in

[24:51] my house to Happ we're moving on to a

[24:56] board discussion on the Beachside

[24:57] neighborhood watch

[25:00] yeah Mr chairman there was um an update

[25:04] to the resolution and I provided you on on your packet MH and is open to

[25:10] board discussion if you have any

[25:13] suggestions so

[25:16] okay does anybody have any comments on

[25:18] this is it is it a

[25:20] presentation is it are the asking for

[25:23] anything is there any motion involved in

[25:25] it is this the the um um presentation

[25:29] before the commission to alter um

[25:33] Landscaping I mean what what is for the

[25:35] Beachside plans yes is it the the the

[25:38] resolution that you already had that you

[25:40] discussed it was an update on August um

[25:46] first so I provided you with the updated

[25:50] so you can have it and we have Miss en

[25:53] Ruby here that can um can talk about

[25:55] that could we have a brief presentation

[25:58] I think it's warranted who's the chair

[26:01] here you Tak over ask I'm sorry everyone

[26:04] can speak everyone can speak it's open

[26:06] it's a board discussion do do you guys

[26:08] feel like we need a

[26:11] presentation yeah I feel like a

[26:13] presentation to clarify would help as

[26:15] well just a little introduction yes yeah

[26:17] so an Ruby 136 Park Avenue I'm chairman

[26:20] of the Beachside neighborhood watch we

[26:21] have several Beachside neighborhood

[26:23] watch Board of director members here

[26:25] including Mr weather Holtz um we had a

[26:28] originally brought before you the one

[26:29] that we passed September 7th

[26:32] 2023 and there were a lot of questions

[26:34] raised about that well was there

[26:36] scientific evidence um do a study find

[26:39] out what else is happening we weren't

[26:41] actually ever proposing a direct change

[26:44] to the LDC we're not proposing that this

[26:47] be put on requirements put on

[26:49] Residential Properties what the so on

[26:52] August 1st of this

[26:54] year BMW passed a companion resol

[26:58] resolution so there's two resolutions

[27:01] the companion resolution reads in

[27:03] September 2023 bnw presented the city

[27:06] commission with the attached resolution

[27:09] on the use of non-functional turf grass

[27:11] the resolution was received with much

[27:13] head nodding on the commission but no

[27:16] action bnw has passed this second

[27:18] resolution asking the Beachside

[27:20] Redevelopment board and the planning

[27:22] board to urge the city commission to

[27:25] take action to instruct City staff to

[27:28] use the intentions of the original bnw

[27:31] resolution as a springboard to examine

[27:35] what changes could be made Citywide to

[27:37] our LDC and development standards to

[27:40] encourage increased use of native plants

[27:42] and a decreased use of non-functional

[27:44] turf grass on City properties and new

[27:47] commercial developments additionally bnw

[27:50] would like to see the city commission

[27:52] develop a resolution similar to ours

[27:54] that they would pass on to the state and

[27:56] the county NE nether resolution is a

[27:59] direct proposed change to the LDC

[28:02] neither resolution is intended

[28:05] to impose new standards on Residential

[28:08] Properties passage of this second

[28:10] resolution is intended to Spur the

[28:12] commission to take action the

[28:14] instruction to City staff for the

[28:17] examination of what changes could be

[28:19] made Citywide to our LDC and development

[28:21] standards to encourage increased use of

[28:24] native plants and a decreased use of

[28:26] non-functional turf grass on City

[28:28] properties and new commercial

[28:30] developments so that's so that's kind of

[28:33] what we put on top of the resolution we

[28:35] first passed because we wanted to make

[28:37] sure that it was clear what we were

[28:39] asking the city commission seemed like

[28:42] they really wanted to support what we

[28:43] were asking for you know if we can get

[28:46] different standards in place and get

[28:48] different ways of using plants we can

[28:51] save the city money we can save the

[28:52] environment we can help create a more

[28:55] appropriate looking beach side and we're

[28:58] just asking the com we want the we would

[29:01] like BMW board support planning board

[29:03] support to ask the commission to ask

[29:07] staff to examine these standards and can

[29:10] they be updated to

[29:12] include yes I'm was going to say I went

[29:15] down to Port Orange on the dun lton

[29:17] Bridge Road there is a very very low

[29:21] growing with tiny white flowers all

[29:24] along there it looks beautiful and when

[29:27] you look on International Speedway right

[29:30] at the

[29:31] 7-Eleven where they've dug up and dug up

[29:34] that same plant has come up by itself I

[29:37] want to find the name of it I have I've

[29:40] got it on my camera it is wonderful and

[29:43] it only grows this high so you don't

[29:45] have to spray it you don't have to water

[29:47] it in the terrible conditions it is

[29:50] spreading and looks wonderful so why put

[29:53] grass there exactly absolutely why put

[29:55] grass there I want to put it in my front

[29:57] yard

[29:58] so my my question to you is do you need

[30:01] us to vote and say we like this or do we

[30:04] need to send a representative to the

[30:06] city commission we're just asking that

[30:09] we like it we just we're just asking

[30:10] that you vote to say we the Beachside

[30:12] Redevelopment board would like to see

[30:15] you in you know look at these standards

[30:18] again well I'd make I'll make I'll

[30:21] make some more discussion if I can make

[30:24] a motion yeah and I second yeah let's

[30:27] see if everyone has any question

[30:28] questions about it and then we'll

[30:29] discuss and make a motion I agree do

[30:32] either of you have any questions I'm

[30:33] 150% for it it's it's a no-brainer it's

[30:36] going to save money when you're talking

[30:38] about you're cutting down expenses in a

[30:39] business I'm just a businessman if you

[30:41] can cut down my overhead and this is our

[30:44] city we want to cut I want to cut the

[30:45] city's overhead down and it does it and

[30:47] it does it efficiently yeah I'm for it

[30:50] no questions I got a question I

[30:52] personally want to know what those white

[30:54] flowers are cuz I want to put them on my

[30:56] La reverse

[31:00] picture reverse

[31:02] IM Jenny just said it Florida betney

[31:06] Laura betney okay Laura betney I'll come

[31:09] to

[31:10] your I've got a I've got a question an

[31:14] was the original proposal for the

[31:16] Beachside and now this is a Citywide

[31:18] proposal that might be why the

[31:21] commission sort of could be in favor of

[31:24] it but um it's it you just said City

[31:28] wide well the the original proposal came

[31:30] from Beachside neighborhood watch and we

[31:32] were originally just wanting to

[31:34] encourage it on the beach side correct

[31:35] but then as we you know and some of the

[31:38] objections you had raised decided to do

[31:40] the kind of a

[31:41] clarifying purpose of it that it really

[31:44] should be something that's addressed

[31:46] Citywide so you know it's it's kind of

[31:48] like the staff we're just asking them to

[31:51] ask the staff to look at this yeah um I

[31:54] think it makes sense Citywide where it may somewhat sense for the beach side

[31:59] but uh you either we either do it or we

[32:02] don't correct correct yeah yes it'd be

[32:06] nice to have some pictures idea what

[32:08] this looks like exactly because I tried

[32:11] a little experiment like that on my own

[32:14] property and in between those pretty

[32:16] flowers we get lots of weeds M yeah and

[32:19] weeds are a big problem and you're going

[32:22] to have to pay a team of people just to

[32:24] pick the weeds in between those pretty

[32:25] flowers we can't maintain what we have

[32:29] now well my entire yard I have zero

[32:32] grass my entire yard is native plants

[32:36] yeah and when it's dry it Browns out but

[32:39] then as soon as it rains it comes back

[32:40] and it's gorgeous but I yes I understand

[32:44] your from this the amend the amended or

[32:47] the additional language that this isn't

[32:49] superseding anything this is in addition

[32:52] to what we

[32:53] already allow for landscaping it's it's

[32:57] asking them to to examine how what they

[32:59] are allowing you know sometimes they'll

[33:01] say the list trees or a type of plant

[33:04] that should be planted and they're not

[33:08] necessarily including natives or not you

[33:10] know there's there's natives they could

[33:11] use instead of um so we're just asking

[33:15] them just want them to look at it we

[33:16] just want option put there it is is that

[33:21] the bety that's at that's it at all the

[33:25] construction work that's going on it's

[33:28] just doing beautifully all by itself M

[33:31] yeah you don't have to do anything to

[33:32] those and you was there a a any mention

[33:35] about the cost of doing a pro a project

[33:38] like this because if it is Citywide I

[33:41] could see where I mean I'm not saying

[33:43] that cost is any part of it but it is a

[33:47] factor

[33:49] um I could I could answer it's not it's not asking if there's turf

[33:54] grass out there already it's not saying

[33:56] rip up the turf grass do something else

[33:59] it's that if like when they're going to

[34:01] do the new me they're going to do new A1

[34:04] for allowable uses in future and they're

[34:06] going to do new A1A let's have the city

[34:09] at make sure that some of those

[34:11] plantings are not turf grass that there

[34:13] are other Alternatives that can be

[34:15] examined yeah okay I could add one thing

[34:18] just one thing climate appropriate

[34:19] things right just just one thing I think

[34:23] it it would cut expenses down

[34:24] tremendously on gram view I haven't had grass in front that's living you

[34:30] know anytime so the the natural habitat

[34:33] is really meant to be there it's grass

[34:35] is just not meant to live I can water it

[34:38] I can do all these things I just can't

[34:40] get it to live um and then you have uh

[34:44] on East ISB before they did the road

[34:47] construction most of that grass was

[34:48] dying and didn't look good so maybe this

[34:52] is a very good uh solution Solution

[34:55] that's going to be cheaper in the long

[34:57] run

[34:58] because after so many years how long

[35:00] does that Turf gas Last 5 Years out in

[35:02] the sun maybe before it Withers and then

[35:05] 5 years we're doing it

[35:07] again and you have to mow it and you

[35:10] have to spray it so no I'm talking I I

[35:13] was talking the uh artificial grass if

[35:14] they put it in you got to remember that

[35:16] Heat's coming down and you got to think

[35:18] of this sun you know doing it up north

[35:20] is one thing doing it here in Florida on

[35:22] the beach is another it's going to it's

[35:23] going to fade not

[35:26] sure good thought sorry so so one of the issues that they will have to

[35:32] Broach is that you have to have an

[35:35] educated um or

[35:38] re-educated Landscaping team because as

[35:42] Mr koplos said you know you have these

[35:44] beautiful little white flowers here and

[35:45] little yellow flowers here and weeds

[35:47] come up in the middle well if you don't

[35:49] know what that is that weed could turn

[35:51] into a beautiful little low growing

[35:54] flower but if you don't know what it is so you know one of the challenges not

[36:01] opposed to this at all but um you know

[36:03] they have to be willing to look at that

[36:05] as well because you can't just send your weed eat guys out to a lawn like

[36:10] this because I have a lawn like this I

[36:11] let I let everything grow and if I see

[36:14] something that is too bushy or

[36:16] unattractive or has stickers on it I I

[36:19] pull them out yeah um and I let

[36:21] everything else grow and and I have lots

[36:23] of beautiful flowers butterflies bees

[36:25] and everything um so that's kind of

[36:27] right what we're hoping to go for so

[36:30] might be nice to get a landscape

[36:31] expert's opinion on yes and a and a like

[36:34] a landscape expert that is not just into

[36:38] you know making it look like carpet yeah

[36:40] I mean you want it to look appealing

[36:41] because that's yes right but I think but

[36:44] that would be that would be something

[36:45] that we would want to have stff feels

[36:47] they need to do that then you know but

[36:49] just let's get this kind of presented to

[36:52] them as something that we should cuz the commission when we presented our

[36:56] initial one was all like oh yeah yeah

[36:59] that sounds good that sounds good and

[37:00] then po next item of business yeah but

[37:03] we could do the leg work for them and

[37:05] have a well we have Jenny

[37:09] yeah presented first this also yeah well

[37:12] I was just GNA say the first picture

[37:13] that I sent down is what just came up by

[37:16] itself even though they have been

[37:18] digging up and digging up but this other

[37:20] long one is the Port Orange Bridge all

[37:24] along all the way up to the ocean and it

[37:27] is growing beautifully same I think you

[37:31] want it yeah I'd love to yeah yeah so

[37:34] anyhow I think if you

[37:36] know we're just asking that you pass

[37:38] this so we can get it before planning

[37:40] board we can get it before the

[37:42] commission so that we can ask the

[37:44] commission please ask staff to look into

[37:47] this that's what we're trying to do and

[37:49] I also agree that so this is a I think

[37:52] this is madees great sense okay good age

[37:54] I'm glad want to come back up on this

[37:57] got you for public com also from an

[38:00] environmental point of view I believe

[38:03] this is much better for the environment

[38:04] than grass cuz you have to spray all the

[38:06] poison that's right Amy so that's a big

[38:09] point right now that's right and this is

[38:11] not pass in between that is part

[38:14] PL yeah that's what I

[38:17] think we're g move on to public comment

[38:19] on this John Nicholson come on up that's

[38:21] what I

[38:24] want thank you Jenny

[38:31] johnon 413 North Grand View a um jny

[38:35] first proposed this I thought well it's

[38:38] a good idea because we are a Beach town

[38:41] and unfortunately uh we were founded by

[38:43] Yankees so all of our landscape looks

[38:47] like New England it looks like New

[38:49] Jersey and we're not New England we're

[38:51] not New Jersey we're we're Florida hey

[38:54] I'm still a Yankee I'm a Yankee but you

[38:58] still when you built your houses the

[39:00] landscape at the time Helen please let

[39:03] me finish don't interrupt not doing

[39:05] anything at the time when they came down

[39:07] we now continue that Landscaping we have

[39:10] a lot of the poporum and whatnot that

[39:12] are from up North they have to be

[39:14] trimmed etc etc uh it takes Staffing all

[39:18] right staffing has become extremely

[39:20] expensive I don't know if you've driven

[39:22] past McDonald's starting at $17 an hour

[39:25] California's I think up 20 25 an hour

[39:28] when you do that it's not only what

[39:30] you're paying now but when they retire

[39:33] it's what you pay for the rest of their

[39:35] lives all right so 40 Years of somebody

[39:37] sitting on their butt making $20 an hour

[39:40] is going to be expensive in the future

[39:42] so when you design this uh we had a

[39:45] problem with a18 all right and I've been

[39:48] to like oakd oakd now had to be redone

[39:52] because the plants they put in didn't

[39:53] last uh A1A the plants they put in

[39:56] didn't last s

[39:57] times um to the island they put

[40:00] landscaping around the walkway didn't

[40:03] last um a whena and ISB they put

[40:07] Landscaping on those two corners except

[40:09] for the big trees all the Landscaping is

[40:11] gone all right so when you replace all

[40:15] of these things if you could put in the

[40:17] grasses and the natives that don't need

[40:21] to be watered they don't need to be

[40:22] cared for like the grasses you cut them

[40:25] once a year that's it take away the

[40:28] foliage and it grows back and

[40:29] everybody's happy so generally there is

[40:32] no um Staffing cost or goes down

[40:37] drastically watering costs go down

[40:39] drastically because there is a problem

[40:41] with water in the future I know Staffing

[40:43] says oh no there's no problem we got

[40:45] plenty of water that's what Las Vegas

[40:48] thought there isn't plenty of water so

[40:50] I'm asking you to definitely push this

[40:53] not just for jetting not just for the

[40:55] beach I need watch but for the C area

[40:58] because we do want to be unique we want

[41:00] to be different than Miami we want to be

[41:03] different than Jacksonville we want to

[41:05] be a Beach town and we're overbuilding

[41:08] that's true and the more we build the

[41:10] less we look like a small Beach Town the

[41:14] only way we can hope to recoup that is

[41:16] through our landscaping and our design

[41:18] thank

[41:19] you yeah I agree with you totally and

[41:22] really what makes the city so great is

[41:25] the residents want to come here and

[41:27] speak like yourself and that's something

[41:29] I wanted to thank you for and I

[41:31] appreciate you thank you and girls as

[41:33] well just going to point that we have

[41:36] people that have already been saying

[41:38] just that same thing Y Man Jenny

[41:42] nzac come on

[41:46] up Jenny nasac 501 Harvey Avenue as a uh

[41:51] in the profession of permac culture

[41:53] which is a design system for creating St

[41:57] able human environments that's a

[42:00] mouthful but it's where we have the

[42:02] human environment and we're working with

[42:04] nature instead of against nature so now

[42:07] plants right they look pretty they can

[42:09] be nice they're also green

[42:11] infrastructure they are sucking up storm

[42:13] water big time they are um supporting

[42:16] the pollinators without whom we shall

[42:19] die yes like this is not some cute like

[42:22] some people think environmentalism is

[42:24] still a cute hobby it ain't cute like

[42:26] we're into survival here and and then

[42:30] and but things like the flood waters and

[42:32] things like that very very important and

[42:34] also to not be using too much water all

[42:38] that to be conserving the fresh pable

[42:41] water that we do have so it's it all

[42:44] kind of I like it when things all point

[42:46] in the same direction and I'm also

[42:47] hardcore fiscal conservative I can't

[42:50] stand I can't stand waste when I hear

[42:55] things being like trees being being cut

[42:57] unnecessarily there's like the the soft

[43:00] environmental part of me but there's

[43:02] also the the hardcore like fiscal

[43:05] conservative like just stop it

[43:09] man is going on like because but I don't

[43:12] cut costs to just save a pile of money

[43:15] and hoard a pile of money no I cut costs

[43:19] to because money needs to be deployed to

[43:22] other necessary situations all over our

[43:25] city like for example I I think every

[43:28] bus stop needs shade for example like

[43:31] needs needs some kind of shelter because

[43:32] people are going to be getting heat heat

[43:34] Str yeah yeah things like that so in

[43:37] many areas throughout our beautiful city

[43:39] where we have real human needs that are not being adequately addressed

[43:44] every single penny we can save on

[43:48] unnecessary maintenance of high

[43:50] maintenance Landscaping is is awesome

[43:53] and then plus as John and others have pointed out it gives us this this

[43:58] beautiful identity Mother Nature gives

[44:00] us free um unique local Beauty like

[44:03] she's like a free marketing agency and

[44:06] okay so that the plant Helen there's a

[44:09] couple of plants that have that carpet

[44:12] aspect that are whitish or light purple

[44:14] flowers that particular one is known as

[44:17] Mexican Clover corre the Latin name

[44:20] richardus scabra and I believe that

[44:23] would qualify as a Florida friendly

[44:25] there's this gets kind of technical but

[44:27] there's like native and there's Florida

[44:29] friendly they all get along nicely they

[44:32] are drought tolerant they are flood

[44:34] tolerant they don't need chemicals they get their own water so they're are

[44:40] friends and if you if a person chooses

[44:44] like a person can mow their yard on a

[44:47] schedule and on the beach side if a

[44:49] yard's not being chemically treated and

[44:52] has not been overlaid with the

[44:54] smothering carpet of sod grass you will

[44:57] get a default the default would be a

[44:59] multi-c carpet of it can be three or

[45:02] four or five or seven types of flowers

[45:06] and they they do a growth habit so if

[45:09] you're the type of person who likes to

[45:11] mow their yard you know a couple times a

[45:14] month in the dry season and you know

[45:17] once a week or so in the wet season then

[45:20] that carpet will be that height um

[45:22] actually Miss Sandy Murphy has a a

[45:25] classic yard that is called um the

[45:28] Florida native plant expert her name is

[45:30] Jenny styal and she's the definitive

[45:32] Source on Florida native plants good she

[45:35] talks about a thing called a freedom

[45:37] lawn that is a lawn that needs no

[45:39] chemicals and is just a carpet of all

[45:42] the Florida natives now there is one

[45:44] plant that is very reviled by the turf

[45:47] grass industry it is called dollarweed

[45:50] oh every we are trained to hate it it is

[45:53] in fact a Florida native and it is is it

[45:56] is a pollinator support it actually has

[45:59] a small flower and supports pollinators

[46:01] and it's actually edible I mean it's not

[46:04] the yummiest thing in the world but if

[46:05] you're you know you're desperate yeah e

[46:08] it yes what one question because I is

[46:12] there certain plants or things we can

[46:15] plant that will help us more with flood

[46:17] mitigation than more than other plants

[46:20] some plants are thirstier than others is

[46:22] there is there study done on that is it

[46:25] yeah the No but way but it but what

[46:28] where there is like for example on the

[46:30] Florida Native Plant Society website

[46:33] they have a very large catalog of the

[46:37] water characteristics like the how how

[46:39] much water does it use what does it like wet feet oh wow there are

[46:43] certain plants now in my yard I have a

[46:47] clumping non-invasive bamboo that sucks

[46:50] up storm water I have Elderberry which

[46:53] is a wonderful immune tonic and makes

[46:56] really tasty jelly and that sucks up

[46:59] storm water so there's lots of different

[47:02] what kind of bamboo is it again it's uh

[47:04] oh I don't remember the name of the

[47:05] species I've got to look it up it's a

[47:07] clumping non-invasive bamboo so it

[47:09] clumps and it doesn't just like spread

[47:11] out like this please let me know yeah

[47:13] there's lots of thirsty plants like

[47:15] Cypress plants are thirsty like around a

[47:17] pond on the mainland you might see some

[47:19] Cypress plants the trees that's a giant

[47:23] storm water pump and like oak trees it's

[47:25] a giant storm water yeah okay get the

[47:28] point um thank you well actually I

[47:31] wanted to speak on National Public Radio

[47:34] just recently I heard where indigenous

[47:37] people used to use a particular kind of

[47:39] grass to weave you could actually put

[47:42] water in their basket they are now in

[47:44] the process of planting along waterways

[47:47] that particular uh type of B it's bamboo

[47:50] a type of bamboo and grass uh and that

[47:54] it they now know does incredible job of

[47:57] holding soil protecting against floods

[48:00] and things uh so I wish I had listened

[48:03] more carefully interesting but they're

[48:05] actually planting and you can order

[48:08] pieces of it to plant in areas to help

[48:10] hold the soil that's very cool yeah good

[48:12] to know if you think of it yeah yeah let

[48:14] me know and then healthy soil in general

[48:17] absorbs storm water better yes so if

[48:19] we're not spraying chemicals in the soil

[48:22] then the soil food web of all the

[48:24] microbes that it holds more storm water

[48:26] yeah believe we have another question

[48:28] yes well Jenny's been at my backyard I'm

[48:31] a pass beekeeper Be

[48:34] Heaven and I have all native plants in

[48:37] the back

[48:39] there uh I do have an irrigation system

[48:42] but I don't use it often uh my favorite

[48:45] is Periwinkles yeah I'm a perrywinkle

[48:50] guy they'll come up they come up they

[48:52] keep coming up uh and it's something

[48:55] like that you don't have to water on

[48:57] they about as native as you can get here

[49:00] yeah buron is that a grass or a plant no

[49:03] it's a flower it's AOW it's a flower

[49:05] they grow about 18 in high white and all

[49:08] South Florida loaded with oh absolutely

[49:12] for there're they in the keys that was

[49:14] my whole yard but anyways I just put

[49:16] that in and uh I've added native

[49:20] trees and I think that one of the the

[49:23] areas

[49:24] it's can really be is

[49:27] uh the new buildings new hotels down

[49:30] along the beach everybody wants to put

[49:32] palm trees oh I know they you know palm

[49:34] trees is not a native

[49:36] plant but uh using the native trees and

[49:41] plants that grow they're salt tolerant

[49:43] you don't have to take care of them and

[49:46] I think that that's the area some of the

[49:47] bare areas along the beach we was just

[49:50] talking about that in the uh uh the

[49:53] commission meeting uh there's areas

[49:56] that's privately

[49:57] owned it's just bare they don't do

[50:00] anything they don't maintain it and

[50:02] everything and this would be a prime

[50:04] example for the city to have that in

[50:08] those areas uh they don't need a lot of

[50:11] uh care and everything have native

[50:13] plants in there and to make it look nice

[50:15] because the boardwalk one of the issues

[50:17] we're going to talk about tonight is one

[50:20] of the worst places in Daytona Beach

[50:24] right now it's it's past being so just

[50:28] putting that in comments thank you

[50:31] everybody good all right thank you all

[50:33] thanks

[50:35] shenny does anyone want to make a motion

[50:37] to approve here oh we had make a motion

[50:40] to approve had it second well it came

[50:43] out early before the I'd like to make a

[50:45] motion to approve this resolution and

[50:48] I all right all those in favor of the

[50:51] bnw resolution say I I all those opposed

[50:56] saying none

[50:57] passed all right yes thank you for

[51:02] persevering now we're moving on to our

[51:04] Beachside Redevelopment priority

[51:09] list everybody have that let me

[51:13] see I'm finally prind to see I think

[51:16] it's in our original yeah I got one of

[51:18] those as well Mr chair Ken Thomas

[51:20] Redevelopment

[51:22] director

[51:23] um Jenny needs her own radio show yes I would recommend that yes

[51:31] um I well I learned a lot already just

[51:34] listening tonight um excellent so Mr

[51:39] chair um um board members advisor board

[51:42] members um as you know you you were

[51:45] appointed by your your mayor and your

[51:48] city commission to to be part of this

[51:50] Advisory Board and to help implement or

[51:54] help City staff and help advise

[51:57] the mayor and the city commission help

[51:58] City staff to implement the

[52:00] Redevelopment plan um for Main Street in

[52:05] South Atlantic um as you know the plans

[52:08] were created back in 1982 and 2001 um

[52:12] respectively Main Street was um um 1982

[52:16] and um and the um South Atlantic was um

[52:20] 2001 um 2008 both plans were um amended

[52:26] and in 2011 the Main Street plan was

[52:29] amended um to incorporate um some of the

[52:33] goals and objectives of the um uh uh the

[52:36] ezone master plan so throughout the

[52:39] years this this is this plan has been in

[52:41] place for quite a long time but not

[52:44] recently updated what it's been um 14

[52:47] years since 13 years since um any of the

[52:50] plans have been um um re relooked at and

[52:54] so it is a good thing that we've been

[52:57] talking um throughout um our meetings

[53:00] every month about you know what our

[53:02] priorities are and so with you all you

[53:05] your your um recommendation to Let's

[53:09] establish a priority list and we'

[53:13] received over the last couple weeks now

[53:16] since we last met a number of issues and

[53:20] concerns um that have been given to

[53:23] staff um regarding the main street in

[53:25] the South Atlantic um CRA in your

[53:28] packets and you should have 11 by 17 of

[53:32] all of the issues and concerns that were

[53:35] given to us and so tonight what we want

[53:37] to do is go over those issues and

[53:41] concerns and I don't want to you know

[53:42] belabor this but I think it's important

[53:46] um that we at least go through each and

[53:49] every one of them it's only 18 yeah it's

[53:51] 18 of them but I think it's important

[53:54] that we go through each one of them

[53:57] and make sure that everyone understands

[54:00] what that particular issue um represent

[54:02] and if you have any questions we'll

[54:04] staff will try to answer them the

[54:06] respective um advisor board members know

[54:09] who you are um they they they recognize

[54:12] their information that was given to us

[54:14] so if we don't correctly um establish

[54:18] what you intended please feel free to um

[54:22] correct us tonight in addition to it the

[54:25] ones who were not able to in anything

[54:27] you will have an opportunity to add to

[54:29] our list so what I want to do tonight is

[54:31] just start with what we've been

[54:35] given I also want to indicate that you

[54:37] have about six dots um on your on your your Dees there that I will after

[54:44] the after the presentation is made we

[54:46] want you to take those six dots and we

[54:49] want you to put those dots on the areas

[54:51] the issues and concerns that are most

[54:53] important to you now with the six

[54:57] if there's one issue out of the 18 that

[54:59] we have you can take all six dots and

[55:01] put it on that one issue you can't it's

[55:05] up to you yeah um but if you have

[55:08] multiple issues yeah we have more dots

[55:10] you well we we don't want to give you

[55:12] more dots but but you can take those six

[55:15] dots and and um you know subdivide them

[55:19] and and put two on one issue and maybe

[55:22] three on another issue and you got one

[55:23] left um so um it is up to you but I

[55:27] think six docs out of 18 issues that we

[55:30] have um established here tonight is

[55:32] enough and what staff would do

[55:34] afterwards is we're going to take all

[55:37] your um indication with the dots and

[55:40] we're going to come back to the next

[55:41] meeting and um give you the results of

[55:44] it matter of fact you'll probably have

[55:46] the results before the next meeting

[55:48] because we're going to um um categorize

[55:50] them into

[55:52] subgroups um and so you'll you'll have

[55:55] all this information so that when we

[55:57] come back our next meeting we can have a

[55:59] full discussion about what everyone has

[56:02] um indicated and if you could please put

[56:04] your names on um your sheets yeah Ken

[56:09] there are about four areas in which all

[56:12] of these fit too well yeah I mean sort

[56:16] of s some of them are sort of they

[56:19] correlate but we didn't want to we

[56:21] didn't want to join the ones that we

[56:23] knew correlated because again it's

[56:25] important

[56:27] um that the individual um staff

[56:30] individual um advisor board member um

[56:33] had their items listed and we want to do

[56:35] that oh no no absolutely after the after

[56:38] the listing thank you yeah I'm wondering

[56:40] if if after the dots are done you could

[56:43] stick those things on a board and we see

[56:46] where the distribution is because I know

[56:48] that exterior the the look of both of

[56:51] these areas are the big or we we we

[56:54] thought about that Mr Libby but uh um I don't have 2020 Vision so if you sat

[56:59] up there you would be hard for you to

[57:00] see them here yeah so we just thought

[57:02] hey give you the the large 11 by 17 put

[57:05] them on this sheet and we'll transfer

[57:08] them to um a one complete document that

[57:12] you'll know how many dots were on each

[57:14] particular

[57:16] issue now um if there is a lot I I can I

[57:19] can read every last one of them uh it is

[57:22] a pleasure of the board how you want me

[57:24] to do it sure I was intend on reading

[57:26] each every one okay so I'm going to

[57:29] start out with um the first one um is

[57:31] appearance standards are critical to

[57:33] include a more proactive stance on code

[57:36] violations and appearance improvements

[57:38] throughout the beach side area on both

[57:41] public and private areas a plan is

[57:44] needed to improve Lighting in the

[57:45] Beachside Redevelopment area to help in

[57:48] security concerns and improving General

[57:51] overall

[57:52] appearance both new directional signage

[57:55] and Pacific signage for available

[57:58] parking areas and new parking either

[58:01] purchased by the city and or shared with

[58:03] Lucia County's current parking lots a

[58:07] more complete and transparent method for

[58:10] funding current special events and new

[58:13] events utilizing Peabody and the Ocean

[58:17] Center to better balance the perception

[58:19] of the Main Street Corridor and

[58:21] entertainment Zone

[58:24] potential better communication with

[58:26] existing property owners and other

[58:29] partners concerning their responsibility

[58:31] as property owners and participants in

[58:34] the growth and future of the

[58:36] Redevelopment

[58:49] area you all have it on your sho I'm

[58:52] just going to turn it around for the

[58:53] public so they have

[59:01] okay yeah they're not would have been

[59:04] helped if they were numbered too I think

[59:06] probably

[59:07] yeah okay helped a lot we can figure

[59:11] that out all right number five better

[59:13] communication with existing property

[59:14] owners and other partners concerning

[59:17] their responsibility as property owners

[59:19] and participants in the growth and

[59:21] future of the Redevelopment area staff

[59:24] playing a more proactive role

[59:26] with other divisions within the city to

[59:28] remedy the obvious problems in the

[59:30] general appearance of the beach side the

[59:33] need for the boardwalk and Breakers Park

[59:35] to be

[59:36] renovated the challenges of housings for

[59:39] rent in the Surfside Village without

[59:42] inspections and

[59:45] permits vacate vacant lot along the

[59:48] boardwalk which is not maintained

[59:50] properly and it is an isore for tourists

[59:54] and residents with graffiti on the walls

[59:56] and we're read I'm I am we did not

[59:58] change any of your verbage your grammar

[1:00:00] we just put it out there

[1:00:04] um parking create a unified appearance

[1:00:08] of userfriendly parking options

[1:00:10] throughout the

[1:00:11] CRA survey all available public parking

[1:00:15] on city and county property well that's

[1:00:18] just like the second one up here the

[1:00:21] first one on parking so uh you know I

[1:00:25] think what

[1:00:26] I think this one's public and the other

[1:00:28] one is County lots and City Lots I think

[1:00:31] that's the difference there Gary no they

[1:00:34] both say all all

[1:00:37] parking then you're just going to choose

[1:00:41] one yeah this is all about parking what

[1:00:45] I'm about to read from yeah 11 I think

[1:00:48] this is number 11 this is all parking

[1:00:50] it's all parking and then bacon lot is

[1:00:53] another one Amy is that yours yeah

[1:00:56] mhm so the first it says survey all

[1:01:00] available Park public parking on city

[1:01:02] and county um properties number one

[1:01:05] allow free parking or enable modern

[1:01:08] paper Park systems number two unify

[1:01:12] appearance with clear attractive signage

[1:01:15] number three create a way for people to

[1:01:17] find parking via the app or Google

[1:01:21] Maps allow businesses to charge a fee to

[1:01:25] park in their lot

[1:01:26] requiring a business tax receipt BTR and

[1:01:30] clear uniform signage we're still on

[1:01:35] parking

[1:01:37] subsidize or pay churches to offer free

[1:01:41] parking public parking in their existing

[1:01:44] parking lots and of course you know

[1:01:46] churches typically have um service on

[1:01:49] Sundays or on Wednesdays and mass and so

[1:01:53] you they the parking lot is um available

[1:01:56] many times of the of the week requiring

[1:01:58] a yearly registration with the city and

[1:02:01] clear uniform signage with times

[1:02:03] available and registration

[1:02:06] information identify properties that are

[1:02:08] only used as parking lots during large

[1:02:13] events establish maintenance and

[1:02:15] appearance standards for these

[1:02:17] properties via the Land Development code

[1:02:20] text amendments including the following

[1:02:22] so this is basically saying that

[1:02:26] you we want to establish this in the

[1:02:29] Land Development code but we're also

[1:02:31] telling you that it would take a Tex

[1:02:34] amendments which will include the

[1:02:36] following eliminate broken down fencing

[1:02:39] replace with a simple attracted border

[1:02:42] I.E painting the post so property

[1:02:45] remains inaccessible to Vehicles when

[1:02:47] there is no active permit signage

[1:02:51] requirements with clear attractive

[1:02:53] appearance that includes display of

[1:02:56] permits visibly seen grass is okay

[1:03:00] native low maintenance landscaping

[1:03:02] borders are

[1:03:03] encourage repair any Paving or replace

[1:03:07] with previous surface material keep free of

[1:03:12] trash require owners register the

[1:03:16] properties property or property as a

[1:03:19] temporary event pay

[1:03:22] parking and agree to comply with

[1:03:25] standards for participation as pay

[1:03:27] parking lots registration will remain

[1:03:30] active for a period of 2 years

[1:03:33] participation in any event will be

[1:03:34] contingent on standards being maintained

[1:03:37] year round staff will perform and

[1:03:40] document at least four random

[1:03:42] inspections throughout the year and

[1:03:44] exite inspection when the temporary

[1:03:46] permit is granted so basically if you

[1:03:49] have this permit the recommendation is

[1:03:52] that at least four random inspections

[1:03:54] will take place Place throughout the

[1:03:57] year and a site inspection when the

[1:03:59] temporary permit is granted you have to

[1:04:02] have that permit granted to you if

[1:04:04] violations are not cured within a period

[1:04:06] of 30 days the property will be dropped

[1:04:09] from the registration for a period of

[1:04:11] one calendar year and not permitted to

[1:04:14] participate and I'm assuming that's the

[1:04:16] following

[1:04:17] year yeah in the events in any events y

[1:04:22] work with the county to open the Main

[1:04:23] Street and Harvey Avenue Beach access to

[1:04:26] allow low tide parking and driving on

[1:04:29] the

[1:04:29] beach vacant Lots now we starting vacant

[1:04:32] Lots survey vacant Parcels in the

[1:04:36] CRA establish clear enforceable

[1:04:38] maintenance and appearance standards via

[1:04:41] the Land Development code text

[1:04:45] amendments and this is about vacant Lots

[1:04:48] tackle the worst and most visible

[1:04:50] first properties at the base of the um

[1:04:55] International Speedway Boulevard bridge

[1:04:57] at the base of the bridge former

[1:04:59] locations of the amusement park on the

[1:05:01] boardwalk large group of assembled

[1:05:04] properties at A1A and East

[1:05:07] ISB require lots to be brought up to

[1:05:09] minimum standards or take action and

[1:05:12] place a lean on the property to recoup

[1:05:14] the

[1:05:15] cost REM removing broken down fencing

[1:05:19] and remains from pre-existing structures

[1:05:22] or fixed sea walls and retaining walls

[1:05:25] those are code violations mhm well

[1:05:28] you've got Co three two other places

[1:05:31] where someone asks to maintain to

[1:05:34] establish and maintain code and make

[1:05:37] sure that it's not just written on a

[1:05:39] piece of paper but we have active action

[1:05:42] right maintaining the code so yeah again

[1:05:45] I think you I I think I agree completely

[1:05:48] with reading through the whole thing but

[1:05:50] these if you cut them up and put them in

[1:05:52] piles I think you'd have probably five

[1:05:55] in one four in another three in one and

[1:05:59] maybe two in in another pile because

[1:06:02] they're all dealing with the piles are

[1:06:05] dealing with separate things yeah but

[1:06:08] yeah we not do it tonight but but I do

[1:06:10] want to point out that some of the

[1:06:13] things that are listed here is not a

[1:06:15] requirement today right these are things

[1:06:18] that we're going to have to implement

[1:06:20] you would have to implement the city

[1:06:21] would have to agree to implement code

[1:06:23] yes sir which is a lot of it is is

[1:06:27] excellent you know but you would you

[1:06:29] would have to go through

[1:06:30] the the the code Amendment the planning

[1:06:34] and zoning and Land Development code

[1:06:36] changes I mean I would trust the staff

[1:06:38] to to look at them and and realize that

[1:06:41] there are five nouns that are the same

[1:06:43] in in six of these and those should go

[1:06:46] together because I

[1:06:48] think as my first paragraph in the or

[1:06:52] last paragraph said I'm sure my

[1:06:54] colleagues will have you know many that

[1:06:56] are similar or or or can could be

[1:07:00] construed or solved in in the same way

[1:07:03] and so this is fine but I I I'd feel

[1:07:06] better if we whittel this down into big

[1:07:08] categories that each one had three or

[1:07:10] four of these in it because then it

[1:07:12] makes sense rather than just but we can

[1:07:15] do that we can do that maybe at our

[1:07:18] next okay okay so City responsibilities

[1:07:22] any property owned or controlled by lecee or whatever should

[1:07:27] be held to the high standards for

[1:07:28] appearance fix broken fences and repair

[1:07:31] missing retaining walls public amenities

[1:07:34] such as Breakers park splash pad um

[1:07:37] coina Arch and the pier should be

[1:07:41] Immaculate both sides of the pier should

[1:07:43] be activated with City approved public

[1:07:46] art whether permanent or temporary could

[1:07:49] be funded with sponsorships that could

[1:07:51] be noted within the artwork City own

[1:07:54] light poles with the old blue and white

[1:07:56] lights need to be fixed immediately

[1:08:00] front of Corin building needs to be

[1:08:01] cleaned up while we wait for a tenant to

[1:08:04] begin renovation windows are cloudy need

[1:08:07] a graphic or M over them stubby chopped

[1:08:11] up fence looks

[1:08:17] ridiculous um Florida pal light AT&T as

[1:08:21] a partner um FPL needs to be pulled in

[1:08:24] as a partner in the appearance of the

[1:08:26] Redevelopment area there is no excuse

[1:08:29] for Old Poles taking years to remove

[1:08:33] Hallelujah electrical boxes with

[1:08:35] graffiti and stickers need to be

[1:08:37] surveyed regularly and addressed

[1:08:40] immediately dangling obsolete wires AT&T

[1:08:44] cables of course um need to be cleaned

[1:08:47] up everywhere and they are everywhere

[1:08:51] yes um Main Street and A1A storefronts

[1:08:54] this is this is is majority of private

[1:08:57] property now right um establish

[1:08:59] enforceable standards for appearance of

[1:09:01] storefront windows The Land Development

[1:09:04] code section

[1:09:06] 6.14 section g I assume that's chapter

[1:09:09] four and five addresses show Windows

[1:09:14] suggested changes to that section open

[1:09:17] active business exhibit a the view of

[1:09:20] the merchandise and Retail show Windows

[1:09:23] of of shall give give an un unobstructed

[1:09:28] view into the interior of the store at

[1:09:30] all times we need to have a

[1:09:34] view and the last and final

[1:09:38] page B the merchandise displayed in any

[1:09:41] show window shall be maintained with an

[1:09:44] uncluttered appearance any item

[1:09:47] displayed words or images that are

[1:09:49] sexual in nature or deemed for a mature

[1:09:52] audience can only be displayed at a

[1:09:54] minimum height of 6 ft from the level of

[1:09:57] the sidewalk outside or place back at a

[1:10:02] minimum of 4T from the window glass

[1:10:04] facing the street so that's

[1:10:07] internal um recommendation that it is at least 4 feet in height but away

[1:10:14] from the front of the the um Windows the

[1:10:16] front windows that face the glass well

[1:10:19] the idea the street six foot high so

[1:10:21] that kids walking by won't see it mhm

[1:10:24] and they people still get their First

[1:10:25] Amendment they can put whatever kind of

[1:10:27] trash they want up that high or four

[1:10:29] foot back four foot back from the front window yeah what happens when they

[1:10:35] walk in the store then they walk in the

[1:10:37] store but it keep we're just talking

[1:10:40] about the from the street the

[1:10:42] familyfriendly atmosphere on the street

[1:10:44] yes on the street okay yeah from the

[1:10:47] sidewalk CU we we we already have some

[1:10:49] of that now in one or two

[1:10:53] areas MH yeah yeah um for Lent um or other

[1:11:00] painted um signage on the window itself

[1:11:03] must be limited to 20% of the total

[1:11:05] surface of any particular window owners

[1:11:08] of stores facing Main Street or North

[1:11:10] Atlantic Avenue within the CRA that have

[1:11:13] no active BTR license or stores that are

[1:11:17] going to be closed for a period of more

[1:11:19] than 30 days must apply a perforated

[1:11:22] window graphic with a decorated design

[1:11:25] to the inside of their storefront

[1:11:27] windows to block The View into the

[1:11:29] vacant store I I that tickles me because

[1:11:32] we have so many meetings about you know

[1:11:35] uh businesses that don't have a

[1:11:37] BTR um that are in the in the community

[1:11:40] yes sir you know they were talking about

[1:11:42] it's mostly the uh the stores down on uh

[1:11:45] Main Street where they block off the

[1:11:47] windows during the during the the year

[1:11:52] and then the three weeks right they they

[1:11:55] have them open and so they you know I

[1:11:57] think that it should be a a fast

[1:12:00] ordinance to make sure that none of the

[1:12:02] windows are blocked off

[1:12:05] anyway unless it's going to be

[1:12:07] merchandise yeah you mean blocked off

[1:12:11] what do you mean blocked I'm I was

[1:12:12] suggesting like a wallpapered up is what

[1:12:15] he oh yeah not wallpaper you have to

[1:12:17] well you know what I mean papered up no

[1:12:19] listen so you want them completely clear

[1:12:22] to where people the police have a policy

[1:12:25] oh yeah that you can't block off the

[1:12:28] window without them being able to see it

[1:12:32] visualize inside the city even if it's

[1:12:35] an unoccupied doesn't make any no if

[1:12:38] it's unoccupied or whatever it has to be

[1:12:41] viewed in right correct okay well in the

[1:12:44] LDC I think it says the view inside has

[1:12:46] to be broom swept

[1:12:48] uncluttered uh clean looking we don't

[1:12:50] have that so you know cross that off and

[1:12:53] put you know and I think just about

[1:12:56] almost two years ago we did a sweep on

[1:12:58] Main Street um we got a lot of

[1:13:01] complaints you know but because they

[1:13:03] were the the storefront windows were

[1:13:06] cluttered M um but they were not meeting

[1:13:08] the

[1:13:09] code um and so we we got some

[1:13:12] cooperation to as well just over on seab

[1:13:15] breze I just had a store 305 seab breze

[1:13:17] that was blacked out

[1:13:19] totally I just took all of the paint off

[1:13:22] of it and cleaned the store inside and

[1:13:25] they are totally vacant nothing in it so

[1:13:27] like for example Mr guest's building the

[1:13:30] guest it had three big windows up front

[1:13:32] that were all white can't have it it

[1:13:35] can't have it we do so not to have that

[1:13:37] not supposed to yeah absolutely and app

[1:13:40] plywood to as well we just passed the

[1:13:42] ordinance on no ply yeah it would be

[1:13:45] easier for them to have the perforated

[1:13:47] Graphics if they're going to keep

[1:13:49] whatever they're going to keep inside

[1:13:50] correct as long as they can see inside

[1:13:53] yeah yeah

[1:13:56] and the next column is on

[1:13:58] Transportation um a free trolley to

[1:14:00] transport visitors and locals Between

[1:14:03] the Ocean Center Main Street Ocean

[1:14:05] Avenue A1A over to B Street and back

[1:14:08] across the Main Street Bridge um enforce

[1:14:11] illegal parking on the beach side and

[1:14:14] beautification of Main Street and make

[1:14:16] them active businesses all year

[1:14:19] round so those

[1:14:21] are the

[1:14:23] issues um that was given to us prior to

[1:14:26] the meeting but I do Mr chairman want to

[1:14:29] take a few minutes and just ask everyone

[1:14:32] are there other items that we should

[1:14:34] list before you um do your your dot

[1:14:38] system we can add more now if you would

[1:14:40] like too if you if there is a a uh

[1:14:44] request by anyone that something we you

[1:14:46] didn't see that you think is a priority

[1:14:49] uh we can list it now you can write it

[1:14:51] down and um put it on your sheet

[1:14:53] everyone will put it on your sheet and

[1:14:56] um you can use one of your your dots to

[1:14:59] um as a priority issue for you what

[1:15:01] about the um native plants is that

[1:15:04] something that should be on there the

[1:15:06] use of native plants it doesn't have to

[1:15:08] be on there unless you want to make it a

[1:15:09] priority so no no okay it's a different

[1:15:13] I think that the Redevelopment grants

[1:15:14] that we're doing are great but I do

[1:15:16] think it needs to be a priority to make

[1:15:17] them more accessible to everyone in town

[1:15:20] because I have had people come to me

[1:15:22] having trouble finding how to access it

[1:15:23] people that don't know about it for

[1:15:26] instance in here we also have under

[1:15:27] parking working with the county to open

[1:15:29] the Main Street and Harvey beach access

[1:15:31] which I think is a great idea because

[1:15:32] right now we have people at the end of

[1:15:34] ISB no one can get to their business at

[1:15:36] the end of ISB okay and I know they're

[1:15:39] some of them are closing until they're

[1:15:40] done with all the road work I don't know

[1:15:42] that they know about the grants that we

[1:15:44] have or if there's a way that our grants

[1:15:45] could help them with their rent because

[1:15:47] right now I know we have one that's

[1:15:49] going to be closed until January

[1:15:51] February until construction is done and

[1:15:53] we're just going to lose all the

[1:15:54] business over there same thing that

[1:15:56] happened on Orange Avenue I mean what's

[1:15:58] the good in redoing our road and our

[1:15:59] ramp when it reopens there's nothing

[1:16:02] there yeah yeah yeah there there there

[1:16:06] have been some communities in the past

[1:16:08] where you had that that cor correlation

[1:16:12] between the county and the city and the

[1:16:14] CRA working together when they know they

[1:16:16] got a project working like this or if we

[1:16:18] can have something to offer them you

[1:16:21] create a a fund so that you can help

[1:16:23] some of these small businesses through

[1:16:25] that process right I know we have it's

[1:16:28] been done before yeah you know I think

[1:16:31] everything on this list is is

[1:16:33] significant it it I mean I don't think

[1:16:35] there's there are any stinkeroo on here

[1:16:38] the question is are you interested in

[1:16:41] doing a priority list and the priority

[1:16:43] list isn't just the most important ones

[1:16:46] it's that but it's the ones that are

[1:16:48] doable because many of these deal with C

[1:16:51] the county and coordination with the

[1:16:54] property owner and you know some of them

[1:16:57] are pure City ones it could be done

[1:16:59] could start tomorrow because it's all

[1:17:02] under your umbrella of authority right

[1:17:05] so maybe maybe the staff could look at

[1:17:09] um based on the dots uh the priorities

[1:17:13] and if there's a top priority for a

[1:17:15] majority of us that doesn't make it

[1:17:17] because of the dots then I think we

[1:17:19] might want to amend well well well well

[1:17:24] Garett that's why you have the dots

[1:17:26] because it's we we want this to be the Advisory board's priorities and not

[1:17:32] staff

[1:17:33] priorities yeah yeah put a priority on

[1:17:36] your dot yeah you you you you need to utilize your dots we gonna

[1:17:41] go to Garrett then we're gonna go over

[1:17:43] here gar gar was go

[1:17:45] ahead just out of curiosity the funding

[1:17:48] for the program comes from the CRA yes

[1:17:51] sir right how much money is in there

[1:17:55] right now we got a quarter of a million

[1:17:57] or is it half a million a half a million and once that's used up what

[1:18:03] happens after that yeah we we

[1:18:05] appropriate more

[1:18:08] next the c c yes sunshines soon is no no

[1:18:13] we sunshin in 36 3 yeah but we we had to start somewhere no no and we

[1:18:20] started at a half a million we hope we

[1:18:23] get to a million in in the year yeah but

[1:18:25] let me also say this if we spend a half

[1:18:28] a million before December we'll go back

[1:18:31] to commission yeah and ask for more and

[1:18:34] you'll get it and we'll get it the

[1:18:36] reason because we do have more to make

[1:18:37] sure that this is ongoing because yeah

[1:18:39] but we didn't want to stick a yeah yeah

[1:18:41] arbitrary number out there I think

[1:18:44] before you came on board the beach R

[1:18:46] development they did a study 10 12 years

[1:18:50] ago yes we did about the exact same

[1:18:52] thing and then they looked at you know

[1:18:55] sometimes I think we get a

[1:18:57] little too com too confused and too

[1:19:01] overworked up on stuff and we try to

[1:19:02] reinvent stuff okay you know um but all

[1:19:06] we have to do is really look at what

[1:19:07] other more successful cities are doing

[1:19:09] right in Hollywood Hollywood I think

[1:19:12] Hollywood was one of the more successful

[1:19:13] ones and they've got an ongoing program

[1:19:15] like this that has been going on for a

[1:19:17] very long time and they contribute quite

[1:19:19] a bit to businesses that are I better

[1:19:22] use of Redevelopment dollars than

[1:19:25] business yeah you guys are doing a great

[1:19:27] job well Helen and Veron okay I was at

[1:19:29] the city commission the other night when

[1:19:31] uh this was brought up by the the mayor

[1:19:33] and the the Commissioners you have to

[1:19:36] understand one thing with the CRA they

[1:19:38] have

[1:19:39] obligations that are ongoing all the

[1:19:42] time yeah uh we are a city with five

[1:19:47] C which is unheard of for a city of this

[1:19:50] size but that's neither here to there

[1:19:53] and some of them are getting ready

[1:19:56] to be out and once they're out you can't

[1:19:59] reestablish them very difficult so I

[1:20:03] think it uh what you've presented

[1:20:07] tonight are the main things that the

[1:20:09] commission asked you

[1:20:12] to to put in I think you've done an

[1:20:16] excellent excellent job myself I

[1:20:19] prioritize my dots okay and when I run

[1:20:23] out of dots I put double stars on them

[1:20:26] okay good good good but I I think it uh this is

[1:20:32] help think this would be something that

[1:20:34] you could put together and prevent you

[1:20:36] know and bring it before the commission

[1:20:39] and maybe get some attention to some of

[1:20:41] these items absolutely that's that's the

[1:20:44] intent although some of these items may

[1:20:46] be like I say redundant someone else may

[1:20:49] have have listed them um but we're going

[1:20:52] to show you where they

[1:20:55] correlate but I also want this to be an

[1:20:58] exercise where you can see where like

[1:21:00] Minds may have some of the same

[1:21:03] priorities um but there will be cases

[1:21:06] where your priorities may not be a goal

[1:21:10] of the CRA but it doesn't mean correct

[1:21:13] that somewhere in the city it should be

[1:21:16] taken care of correct so somewhere in

[1:21:19] the city everything that you basically

[1:21:21] listed some Department in the city is

[1:21:23] responsible yeah I can tell you that

[1:21:26] work somebody is going to take care of

[1:21:28] it yes thank you yeah so miss Helen and

[1:21:31] Amy well he said what I felt and I just

[1:21:34] want to say this is tremendously helpful

[1:21:40] and I'm I'm just very happy good thank

[1:21:44] you um I'd like to go back to what uh

[1:21:47] chairman Ellis was talking about um the businesses on ISB slight diversion

[1:21:55] but it it could it really this is this

[1:21:57] is tying in how many businesses are

[1:22:00] there that I'm aware of right now that

[1:22:03] are affected I think it's around five businesses if we had

[1:22:09] $50,000 to as you

[1:22:12] know $25,000 you know as a a grant to

[1:22:18] the businesses on ISB to help with rent

[1:22:21] or difficulty during this time is that

[1:22:24] something something that we can do right

[1:22:26] here like make a well you can you can

[1:22:28] recommend to recommend to the city to

[1:22:31] the cities that for those you know

[1:22:33] businesses that are affected by the ramp

[1:22:37] closures that can't get customers there

[1:22:40] anymore can apply for something or or

[1:22:43] any in the future too anything in theut

[1:22:46] we're talking about right

[1:22:49] now the businesses on ISB that are

[1:22:52] affected they are mster CRA yes and we

[1:22:56] already have a grant that is called

[1:22:58] lease subsidy that we pay up to

[1:23:01] 1,500,000 I mean

[1:23:03] $1,500 a month up to three months00 a

[1:23:06] month yeah okay so they can apply and

[1:23:08] one of the business owner there has

[1:23:11] already applied for our grant so they

[1:23:13] are aware that we have those programs

[1:23:16] already done okay all right well that's

[1:23:19] great that one of them already has maybe

[1:23:21] we just need to get the information to

[1:23:22] the other ones too right

[1:23:25] any other way they can get in on the

[1:23:27] other Grant I don't know how many are

[1:23:29] the responsibility of somebody else like

[1:23:31] fpnl I mean the polls are certainly not

[1:23:34] up to the city any Department of the

[1:23:36] city they have to be done by FP and

[1:23:38] other other you know I think those need

[1:23:41] to be identified because that's a little

[1:23:43] pressure in the telephone that that

[1:23:45] would be a uh that would be Public Works

[1:23:48] we would lean on Public Works to make

[1:23:50] that connection yeah just to yes put

[1:23:52] comments in go ahead G that's kind of a

[1:23:55] big issue right now that I was kind of

[1:23:57] dealing with on A1A because spoke to

[1:23:59] Dave in public works and he said well

[1:24:03] FPL has 12 months to actually Remedy

[1:24:06] some of these situations I said 12

[1:24:07] months if I call up as a a resident or a

[1:24:10] business owner which I do all the time

[1:24:12] even when it's not in my neighborhood

[1:24:14] and I'm like hey can you guys fix this

[1:24:15] light it's been out for six months right

[1:24:18] and they have to fix it I think within

[1:24:19] 45 days why is it a year when the city

[1:24:22] has to go to the FBI

[1:24:25] to have them remedy situations like that

[1:24:27] I counted 30 lights between seab breze

[1:24:31] and and the ored line that are out that

[1:24:33] have been out wow for over a year yeah

[1:24:36] and when you get toward Bell Plaza it's

[1:24:39] like really dark down that way it's

[1:24:41] almost someone from FPL actually told me

[1:24:43] he's like if you want to get the ball

[1:24:44] rolling there's a particular safety

[1:24:47] standard that they have to abide corre

[1:24:48] and they have to speed it up you know

[1:24:51] when it becomes a safety issue I'm like

[1:24:53] it's very dark I mean it's kind of a

[1:24:54] little inundating for a tourist to

[1:24:56] actually try to walk on the other side

[1:24:58] of the street there so that's definitely

[1:25:00] but that's how you get it done I mean we

[1:25:02] tell people take pictures of the pole

[1:25:05] that has the number on it oh okay you

[1:25:07] know that's that's how you do take a

[1:25:09] picture of that pole that has the number

[1:25:11] on it I I I have one thing on South

[1:25:14] Peninsula as you turn to go on the

[1:25:17] Orange Avenue Bridge M there is a pole

[1:25:21] in the middle of the sidewalk and there

[1:25:23] is no way there there's a man that walks

[1:25:25] with his seeing eye dog he has to step

[1:25:28] into South Peninsula to go across the

[1:25:32] street because he cannot walk in the

[1:25:35] sidewalk the pole is right in the middle

[1:25:38] there's no way is that the intersection

[1:25:39] so he has to walk yeah it's at it's at

[1:25:41] the intersection I believe yeah well I

[1:25:44] will take a picture of that I had I had

[1:25:46] a I was walking my dog under a pole that

[1:25:49] I've been watch you know it's already a

[1:25:50] poll I've complained about but a cable

[1:25:52] box literally fell

[1:25:54] off the pole and came down I thought it

[1:25:57] was a Transformer coming down I'm look

[1:25:59] up and this huge thing's coming down and

[1:26:01] it stopped about 5T above head because

[1:26:04] the cable kept the cable was still on

[1:26:06] there and it swinging away I got a video

[1:26:08] of it swinging and it like scared the

[1:26:11] hell out of me right so I called on

[1:26:12] emergency somebody came and tucked it up

[1:26:15] back in there but it's still there yeah so this is yeah okay we're like

[1:26:21] entering third world situation here yeah

[1:26:27] oh and then there was one other thing

[1:26:28] one of you asked for other things this

[1:26:30] was an idea some of us were were talking

[1:26:32] about the other day what would how would

[1:26:34] it be if people wanted to paint a house

[1:26:37] or a building M even if they wanted to

[1:26:39] do it themselves with a you know without

[1:26:41] a contractor because painting is not

[1:26:43] something that necessarily requires

[1:26:45] skilled labor and they had they apply

[1:26:47] for a uh paint

[1:26:51] reimbursement and they paint their house

[1:26:53] and then they say say okay here come out

[1:26:55] code whoever look at the house how do

[1:26:57] you like it looks good I spent $500 on

[1:27:01] two giant five gallon buckets of paint

[1:27:04] and we can reimburse them is there

[1:27:05] something simple we can do like that we

[1:27:08] don't have a paint reimbursement program

[1:27:10] but we have a paint program where you

[1:27:11] have to get if you're in a Redevelopment

[1:27:13] area you have to get approval from us to

[1:27:16] paint the the paint colors color right

[1:27:19] um that's a little different and the the

[1:27:22] only gr requires the only thing is um

[1:27:25] about that you you have to create some

[1:27:27] criteria right um for you know a paint

[1:27:31] program code

[1:27:33] enforcement um one of the things that

[1:27:35] they want to do is if they found someone

[1:27:38] who you know has some code violations

[1:27:41] such as chip paint or something that's

[1:27:43] happened to the exterior of the building

[1:27:45] as opposed to taking them to code

[1:27:46] enforcement they want to have the

[1:27:48] ability where they can utilize some of

[1:27:50] our CRA funds to do something similar to

[1:27:52] what you're talking about Home Dep yeah

[1:27:54] but it's not for it's not for everybody

[1:27:57] it is if you have a violation a

[1:28:00] potential violation that has been

[1:28:02] identified by your code officer you will

[1:28:05] have some type of voucher that you can

[1:28:07] go to one of the hardware stores and buy

[1:28:10] paint but then it has to the painting

[1:28:12] has to get done the painting has to get

[1:28:15] done IDE I mean you know these are these

[1:28:18] are ideas that you know if if if there's

[1:28:21] a priority it could be implemented but

[1:28:24] of course you got to create the program

[1:28:26] right you know with code enforcement

[1:28:29] they have a it's a code if you have

[1:28:32] peeling paint your sad or the faes

[1:28:36] coming off that they will help you get

[1:28:40] that oh that's yeah that's what he's

[1:28:42] talking about but not repainting your

[1:28:44] house just because you want to change

[1:28:45] color yeah yeah it has to be a violation

[1:28:49] a potential a potential

[1:28:52] violation uh the next thing on the

[1:28:55] stores that are I've had somewhat

[1:28:58] experience uh I redid Orange Avenue

[1:29:02] through

[1:29:03] Orlando did the rest streets and

[1:29:06] everything you can require do to have a

[1:29:09] minimum of at least one entrance to any

[1:29:14] store you can require that you don't

[1:29:17] have to ask

[1:29:19] them are they because they can't shut

[1:29:21] down a business I notic the one business

[1:29:23] that's fired up yeah but I think that

[1:29:26] how do we do that well you just go to

[1:29:29] the city goes to do and says that that

[1:29:33] you have to no that wait a minute

[1:29:35] there's just not any other way and you

[1:29:38] can require them to do it regardless of

[1:29:42] what they

[1:29:43] say is that something we can look into

[1:29:46] entrance like a driving into the

[1:29:47] driveway they have the whole store wired

[1:29:50] off yes they have everything closed off

[1:29:52] but anyways regardless they can they can

[1:29:54] stop you from going in in the the

[1:29:57] parking I see you know because that you

[1:29:59] know you're repouring concrete and

[1:30:01] everything and you're you can do that

[1:30:03] but uh that's up to the city now now

[1:30:06] help me was that for access to the bu

[1:30:09] business doing roadway construction or

[1:30:12] absolutely is that what we're saying MH

[1:30:15] okay so one of those businesses I think

[1:30:18] there was in the newspaper you still

[1:30:20] have access customers still have access

[1:30:22] to the business mhm just that no parking right no parking and access

[1:30:29] one way is see the parking is a

[1:30:30] different issue they just have to have

[1:30:32] access to it yeah so it's not the access

[1:30:34] is been cut off it's just no parking

[1:30:37] park down there

[1:30:39] anyways we've had we've had constant

[1:30:43] problems dealing with code people in the

[1:30:46] historic districts who have design

[1:30:48] standards and colors that the houses can

[1:30:51] be painted to the point where the city

[1:30:54] told um our neighborhood watch Group

[1:30:57] which is seab breze University that they

[1:30:59] were just going to let people paint

[1:31:01] their houses any color they want because

[1:31:03] they didn't feel that the city should be

[1:31:06] asking them to repaint the house

[1:31:09] according to the standards standards as

[1:31:11] a matter of fact Miss hansy was at the

[1:31:13] historic preservation Advisory board

[1:31:16] meeting when they didn't even know they

[1:31:17] were standards the board was making

[1:31:20] decisions on items in the in this Z Zone

[1:31:24] without realizing the city had a a book

[1:31:28] a guide book to do it so I think maybe

[1:31:30] City coordination would be good too one

[1:31:33] of the things I said in here was that

[1:31:36] are that being proactive but also with

[1:31:38] other departments in the city to really

[1:31:41] make it work for everybody yeah yeah

[1:31:45] okay all right anyone else yeah mine's

[1:31:49] just really simple I'm very pleased with

[1:31:51] this it's well presented by the staff I

[1:31:53] greatly appreciate mhm the STA a lot of

[1:31:55] work and the the most important thing

[1:31:58] that I'm on there I'm on here now uh the

[1:32:02] most important thing that I really think

[1:32:05] on this thing is the staff playing a

[1:32:07] productive role proactive role right uh

[1:32:11] with divisions within the city to remedy

[1:32:14] obvious problems the thing is is that

[1:32:17] not because you all are in front of me

[1:32:18] right now I've lived here for a long

[1:32:21] time and and and you the staff deserves

[1:32:25] the credit I believe probably in the

[1:32:27] past 20 plus years this the best staff

[1:32:30] we've had in the city yeah so you know

[1:32:33] Kudos great job great job Angela great

[1:32:36] job Ken it's just all of you um to me

[1:32:40] that's the most important uh the illegal

[1:32:42] parking on Grand View I think

[1:32:45] immediately when I had said something um

[1:32:48] started giving tickets so at least

[1:32:50] people could get out of I could get out

[1:32:51] of my driveway um

[1:32:54] so I I I really feel happy I think this

[1:32:58] is the best of the city's been since

[1:32:59] I've lived here over over 25 years now

[1:33:03] uh that's about it I'm just happy okay

[1:33:06] thank

[1:33:08] you no good I'm happy with this okay so

[1:33:13] we we're going to come back as staff and

[1:33:16] um at our next meeting and we're going

[1:33:18] to uh articulate to you the uh results

[1:33:22] of the prioritized list

[1:33:24] um but we what we also will do um for

[1:33:28] those items that are not

[1:33:30] directly um involved in the

[1:33:34] Redevelopment plan itself because

[1:33:36] everything that we do has to be part of

[1:33:39] the Redevelopment plan and really

[1:33:41] there's like five goals um that you have

[1:33:44] to take all this information and and and

[1:33:49] um correlated to what the Redevelopment

[1:33:51] plan says now

[1:33:54] but what we're going to do is the ones

[1:33:56] that don't correlate to the goals of the

[1:33:59] Redevelopment plan we're going to create

[1:34:01] a strategy where we're going to connect

[1:34:04] them to a particular department or

[1:34:06] entity correct so that what you've given

[1:34:09] us is not just in vain corre it will go

[1:34:13] somewhere it will be attached to some

[1:34:16] entity some department and and

[1:34:19] throughout our course of um activities

[1:34:23] um

[1:34:24] we'll we'll have updates from from those

[1:34:26] particular departments because there's a

[1:34:28] priority of um the Beachside

[1:34:31] Redevelopment board maybe it's not in

[1:34:34] the Redevelopment plan maybe it's not a

[1:34:35] goal of the Redevelopment plan but it's

[1:34:37] a goal of the Redevelopment advisor

[1:34:39] board so that we have a better quality

[1:34:41] of life and so that's what we understand

[1:34:43] with this list the list is really about

[1:34:45] quality of life and it may not be in the

[1:34:48] Redevelopment plan but it may be

[1:34:50] somewhere that departments in the city

[1:34:52] need to be respons

[1:34:54] most of them are in actually in in one

[1:34:56] of the plans we've done yeah yeah they

[1:34:59] are okay all right well thank you thank

[1:35:02] you Ken thank you

[1:35:07] Angela

[1:35:10] right okay again please remember to put

[1:35:14] your names on the the

[1:35:18] sheets are we to turn them in tonight I believe that's what staff would like

[1:35:24] oh I wanted to study it oh gosh yeah why

[1:35:29] not it's it's Mr chair I mean if for the

[1:35:32] ones who ones who did it tonight we'll

[1:35:35] take them but if you want to hand them

[1:35:39] in maybe the next couple days that's

[1:35:41] fine too I I want to talk with the other

[1:35:44] people at in my store my son and his

[1:35:47] wife I like okay that that' be fine yeah

[1:35:49] good and I and the staff has I think at

[1:35:52] least for me and I'm sure my colleagues

[1:35:55] full authority to batch them the ones

[1:35:57] that look very similar you know that

[1:36:00] except for a word or two I think they can go together because um they're

[1:36:06] probably I was trying to follow you Ken

[1:36:08] there're probably five areas you know

[1:36:11] five areas that just about everything

[1:36:13] could five hats that you could toss

[1:36:16] things in and out of the five

[1:36:18] two are currently achievable by the city

[1:36:23] one by fpnl you know so three out the

[1:36:27] five yeah are not that hard to do if we

[1:36:31] all if it's a full City effort everybody

[1:36:34] pushes works together I think you could

[1:36:37] have some real serious

[1:36:41] progress all right

[1:36:55] [Applause]

[1:37:06] what else do we have yeah that's what

[1:37:08] I'm looking at what else do we have here

[1:37:09] do we have a PDF the last item is the um

[1:37:12] the recommendations from the Beachside

[1:37:15] Redevelopment committee that met back in

[1:37:18] whatever year that was that's it's the pamphlet that's at the end of the

[1:37:23] agenda

[1:37:24] yeah um that was produced by I think it

[1:37:27] was a meetings that went on for about a

[1:37:29] year wasn't it um

[1:37:33] and this is the one we you know we've

[1:37:35] talked about kind of it you know it's

[1:37:37] got a lot of information and it's not

[1:37:39] something we're going to go through line

[1:37:40] by line tonight I hope but um is this a

[1:37:43] private group different neighborhood no

[1:37:45] the Beachside Redevelopment committee

[1:37:47] does it show in here who was on it it

[1:37:49] does it does it was um Tony grippa RNE

[1:37:53] Cruz Derrik Henry Dave Lamont Kent

[1:37:55] Sharpes Paul Zimmerman Charles

[1:37:59] liman um Harry Jennings Aaron Delgado

[1:38:02] John Albright Chris bowler Miriam guabi

[1:38:05] Troy Kent and Frank

[1:38:07] molar and they met over at the uh I

[1:38:10] think it was at the Ocean Center in a

[1:38:12] meeting room um once a month for I feel

[1:38:16] like it was like a year year who

[1:38:18] authorized this committee the county the

[1:38:20] city and the county it was a county

[1:38:22] thing look at it

[1:38:24] it's in your agenda there on the agenda

[1:38:27] and they produced you know they had

[1:38:28] meetings they talked they had speakers

[1:38:30] they had you know it was very I went to

[1:38:33] almost every one of these meetings and

[1:38:35] then they produced this document and

[1:38:39] where is it it's in your it's in your

[1:38:41] packet Mr um on last meeting while we

[1:38:45] were talking about the priority list it

[1:38:47] was brought to our attention that this

[1:38:50] document was produced and that it was a

[1:38:53] very good idea that you all take a look

[1:38:56] at this document so we can know what the

[1:39:00] recommendation were um um that this

[1:39:03] committee was tasked to develop ideas

[1:39:08] for improv the beach side Redevelopment

[1:39:11] areas so that's why I includeed in your

[1:39:14] packet so we don't have to discuss it

[1:39:17] now it's just for your information in

[1:39:20] case you think that it's a good idea

[1:39:23] that we can Implement now in our

[1:39:25] priority list we can do so right A lot

[1:39:28] of them are similar exact a lot of it is

[1:39:30] very similar that's what there yes you

[1:39:33] know the is landscape crosswalk um Road

[1:39:38] improve

[1:39:39] Improvement how we look it's basically

[1:39:42] the same I just wanted to include it

[1:39:44] because you you said you know you show

[1:39:47] interest the meeting yeah thank you

[1:39:49] Angela okay

[1:39:53] have any comments on this or does

[1:39:55] everybody want to yeah I mean it's

[1:39:56] pretty much the same thing we've been

[1:39:57] discussing we'll move well but it's it's

[1:40:00] very important because this group is the um followup group for the board

[1:40:06] that was taken over by the county that

[1:40:09] ran the Redevelopment area for a number

[1:40:11] of years I don't know if any any of you

[1:40:13] were here Helen was no I um the county

[1:40:17] just you know decided we we in the city

[1:40:21] couldn't handle Redevelopment and had a

[1:40:23] board an independent board I'm trying to

[1:40:25] think of who was on it uh and they met

[1:40:28] for I believe two years and then um the

[1:40:32] city uh met with them and discussed

[1:40:36] having a city advisory move the city

[1:40:38] Advisory Board back but this is a very

[1:40:41] serious I think document they did um for

[1:40:44] the County Council and of course they

[1:40:46] authorize Redevelopment areas they they

[1:40:49] have a they have a big stake in our in

[1:40:52] our success our failure and so I I'm

[1:40:55] going to look at it very carefully I I

[1:40:57] didn't not realize why it was in there I

[1:41:00] apologize all right ready for public

[1:41:03] comments on that we have a few uh John

[1:41:05] Nicholson come on

[1:41:11] up most

[1:41:16] stuff joh Nicholson 413 North Grand

[1:41:19] Avenue yeah City commission meeting U

[1:41:21] Derek the kind of gave me a

[1:41:23] going over for jesting this because you

[1:41:26] know how to get this yeah I do but the

[1:41:28] public doesn't public doesn't know this

[1:41:31] how many of you have seen this list

[1:41:32] before today what list you're talking

[1:41:36] about the one that you just that list

[1:41:39] and discussed it all right I don't think

[1:41:41] you guys ever discussed it all right we we just know we just why no no no but

[1:41:46] he's had it he said oh you all knew it

[1:41:49] and I'm like no they don't and the

[1:41:52] public doesn't know it this was all wait wait wait stop from last stop stop

[1:41:57] this is what I spoke to Derek fer about

[1:42:00] yeah all right I'm not going to get my

[1:42:01] time you know so um there are other

[1:42:04] things here the Florida Power and Light

[1:42:06] poles cannot be taken down the problem

[1:42:08] with that is Flor power light owns the

[1:42:11] poles but they don't own the wires and

[1:42:14] unless AT&T moves their wires that pole

[1:42:17] will stay up there indefinitely

[1:42:19] Tallahassee ruled several years ago that

[1:42:22] we now know longer have control over the

[1:42:24] poles on our property although we give

[1:42:26] them permission to use our property we

[1:42:28] have no more control over it so we

[1:42:31] really Essence unless we gripe and

[1:42:33] complain nothing's going to be done so

[1:42:35] you have to gripe and complain it's

[1:42:37] nothing the city can do uh secondly you

[1:42:40] only have like less than 13 years left

[1:42:43] on the C for beat side all right so the

[1:42:47] last time we discussed using the funding

[1:42:50] which is called tip funding the screwed

[1:42:53] it up we were supposed to have two brand

[1:42:56] new hotels actually Four

[1:43:00] hotels on the vacant property on uh

[1:43:04] South Avenue all right George there was

[1:43:07] a uh two hotels came

[1:43:09] in they didn't want tip funds they were

[1:43:11] going to do it on their own well you saw

[1:43:14] the price of everything go up and then

[1:43:17] the city wanted 40t of their property

[1:43:19] for free and then they wanted the city

[1:43:22] wanted them to m match the boardwalk at

[1:43:25] their

[1:43:26] expense so this was too much for them so

[1:43:28] they wanted tip funds 3 million bucks

[1:43:31] the city said okay after a haggling then

[1:43:35] they said the price of everything went

[1:43:37] through the roof if you remember several

[1:43:38] years ago you just couldn't keep up with

[1:43:40] everything was going through the roof

[1:43:43] they went up to 8 million the city said

[1:43:45] yes they went to sign the documents and

[1:43:48] the city said

[1:43:49] no we said yes to the 8 million but

[1:43:51] we're taking it back we're only give you

[1:43:53] 3 million so the two hotels by the

[1:43:56] boardwalk were cancelled which then the

[1:43:59] guy at the end from uguay canceled his

[1:44:01] building so we are shooting ourselves in

[1:44:04] the foot all the time we've stopped nine

[1:44:08] buildings in RC we almost stopped the

[1:44:12] 10th one on Silver Beach it barely got

[1:44:15] passed but we are shooting ourselves in

[1:44:17] the foot um with regard to uh city

[1:44:21] property and County property we have

[1:44:23] control over it and almost all of our

[1:44:26] city and county property is not in the

[1:44:29] best standard it really isn't all right

[1:44:32] you go to um sebr Park SNB you go to the

[1:44:36] boardwalk you go to Breakers Park you go

[1:44:38] to or Street Park no matter where you go

[1:44:40] our properties are the pits Peabody is

[1:44:43] not well taken care of I just went to

[1:44:45] the property that the city owns in the

[1:44:47] middle of the marina they staffed all

[1:44:49] their garbage chairs tables broken down

[1:44:53] equipment on the backside where

[1:44:56] everybody walks to get to the boat it's

[1:44:58] all sitting there visible so we are not

[1:45:01] containing or own so I'm asking you to

[1:45:03] put in this as a high priority all city

[1:45:06] and county property in the CRA because

[1:45:09] we have control over it we have the

[1:45:10] money for it fix it up to the maximum if

[1:45:14] you want to see something really bad

[1:45:16] we're getting a new marit Renaissance

[1:45:18] you're doing the Landscaping now walk to

[1:45:20] the county bathroom next to it I know is

[1:45:23] the pits it's a mess and we're talking

[1:45:25] this is going to be a fourstar which is

[1:45:27] right next to another fourstar which is

[1:45:29] down the street from another fourstar

[1:45:31] and that bathroom it looks like

[1:45:34] 1950s it really is bad so I'm asking you

[1:45:38] to not just us but all of our property

[1:45:41] and all of the County Properties because

[1:45:43] they're renovating the properties on the

[1:45:45] beach as we speak they're tearing down

[1:45:47] three or four of the bathrooms to

[1:45:50] replace them I don't ask them to tear it

[1:45:52] down just gut it and make it modern it

[1:45:55] is really the pits and lastly um you

[1:45:59] have hidden money I know they don't call

[1:46:01] it that way and Paulo Reed Goes Bananas

[1:46:05] whatever I say it but there's been money

[1:46:07] in your facility for years that we don't

[1:46:10] know about M uh was it Midtown CRA when

[1:46:14] they wanted to redo Orange Avenue Chism

[1:46:17] says oh yeah we're going to take that

[1:46:18] million dollars that you have in your

[1:46:20] CRA towards redoing Orange Avenue and

[1:46:23] they go what million they had no idea

[1:46:27] for years you've had money that the

[1:46:29] city's put aside for future development

[1:46:31] but they never told you what it is so

[1:46:33] it's hard for you to balance things if

[1:46:35] you don't know what it is now from what

[1:46:37] I understand you got $6

[1:46:40] million in funding from TI uh from

[1:46:45] um the SI you owe 2.4 million if I

[1:46:51] understand it correctly with the loan

[1:46:53] that you took out for the buildings that

[1:46:54] we backed which gives you approximately

[1:46:57] $4

[1:46:58] million that's not Chum change you owe

[1:47:01] probably about a million

[1:47:04] dollars it's kind of a dishonest way to

[1:47:06] jib Chism change things around so that

[1:47:09] you paid for things you shouldn't have

[1:47:11] so you have $3

[1:47:13] million that you can encourage can't

[1:47:16] tell them you can encourage the city

[1:47:19] Commission because at a meeting two

[1:47:21] months ago they decided to put interest

[1:47:24] on beide finally after 20 years so if

[1:47:27] they're going to think about beide put

[1:47:30] your two cents worth in when you can

[1:47:33] thank you thank you

[1:47:37] John all right moving

[1:47:40] on Jenny did you want to speak on that

[1:47:42] or public comment Public public comment well we're moving on the

[1:47:47] public comment anyway because that's

[1:47:48] where we are okay that's

[1:47:50] um come on up Jenny s

[1:47:53] [Laughter]

[1:47:56] Denny naak 501 Harvey thank you for the list of the various uh priorities

[1:48:01] and things that's excellent I would like

[1:48:03] to add to the thing about lighting I

[1:48:06] want us to add in environmentally

[1:48:08] responsible lighting which helps direct

[1:48:12] the light downward so it does a better

[1:48:14] job of of what its job is of safety and

[1:48:17] Illuminating the road but then it also

[1:48:20] guards against light pollution and I

[1:48:22] have some sent these little short videos

[1:48:25] from the international Dark Skies

[1:48:27] Association about places cities that

[1:48:30] have really good lighting but it's

[1:48:32] directed in such a manner that um at

[1:48:36] like Star tourism is possible astronomy

[1:48:39] tourism like there's places there's HOAs

[1:48:41] where you could see the Milky Way and so

[1:48:44] I'll I'll send you I probably haven't

[1:48:45] sent you all that those little videos so

[1:48:47] I'll send you all some of those it's

[1:48:48] really interesting having to do with the

[1:48:50] color temperature of the light so like

[1:48:53] Amber going more toward the Amber is is

[1:48:56] better it's more gentle but still

[1:48:58] effective and then things like a cone

[1:49:01] shape that directs it down so that's be

[1:49:04] good for us to ponder wouldn't it be

[1:49:06] cool astronomy tourism maybe we'll see

[1:49:09] the Milky Way they actually changed all

[1:49:11] the lighting in Jackie Robinson Stadium

[1:49:14] recently because I complained not

[1:49:17] because of me but I was one of the

[1:49:19] complaints to the CEO CU I live right

[1:49:21] across the road right yeah and it it's

[1:49:25] if you don't put shades on your window

[1:49:26] it's right there and these new PS have

[1:49:29] wonderful Shades I mean directing right on good that's great we

[1:49:34] have an example right in the city thank

[1:49:38] you thank you Jenny um Randall

[1:49:48] Phillips evening everybody uh Rand

[1:49:51] Phillips 155 Crescent r Road uh I'm also

[1:49:55] the owner of 612 and 614 East

[1:49:57] International Speedway I come to you

[1:49:59] tonight because I was just maybe advised

[1:50:01] to come to you guys I was on this

[1:50:04] board five years ago I think two

[1:50:06] consecutive terms uh I've talked to Miss

[1:50:09] Armstrong before uh I'm one of those

[1:50:12] ignorant business owners that had no

[1:50:13] idea about these Grant programs uh I'm

[1:50:16] also being hurt very badly about the

[1:50:18] construction but what I'm actually

[1:50:19] talking to you about is the fact that

[1:50:21] I'm about to apply for these loans I've

[1:50:23] got a second in uh inspection coming

[1:50:26] through just for to see how much it was

[1:50:28] going to

[1:50:29] be uh I've got code enforcement issues

[1:50:32] that stemm from 2010 uh I've got the EPA

[1:50:35] from Florida from taking out gas tanks

[1:50:37] in my parking lot saying I cannot do

[1:50:38] anything I can't even pull permits on

[1:50:40] that property that's where a lot of the

[1:50:42] code enforcement issues came from so

[1:50:44] Lesly I was I guess found in violation I

[1:50:47] think this is a huge miscommunication

[1:50:49] between me and the uh the code

[1:50:51] enforcement board uh uh I guess

[1:50:53] violations were building up building out

[1:50:55] unbeknownst to me uh just recently they

[1:50:58] have tried to put a lean on the property

[1:50:59] I believe the lean is on both 612 and

[1:51:01] 614 we are currently in a court case

[1:51:04] right now I think March uh was our first

[1:51:07] date we're on back to our second one I

[1:51:09] had an investor that was going to come

[1:51:10] in last year uh we were in the news

[1:51:13] journal I don't know if you guys have

[1:51:14] seen that it was going to be a beautiful

[1:51:16] project my main investor had a heart

[1:51:18] attack in a stroke so so he is uh

[1:51:21] hospitalized and unfortunately had back

[1:51:22] out and on top of that my father has

[1:51:25] also had health issues for almost a year

[1:51:26] now he's finally gotten out of the

[1:51:27] hospital and uh that's been a mainstream

[1:51:29] for me but what I was trying to do is

[1:51:32] just to see uh like I said I've talked

[1:51:34] to Miss Armstrong about it and she also

[1:51:36] said she was going to approach uh the

[1:51:38] city uh Council I didn't know you were

[1:51:40] on board I I feel like I'm shooting

[1:51:43] myself on the foot coming and you were

[1:51:44] on this board uh I was just trying to

[1:51:46] see if maybe you guys can put an ear or

[1:51:48] maybe advise me to see how I can talk to

[1:51:50] the city council maybe seeing if they

[1:51:52] can leave that uh lean on both sides of

[1:51:54] my property which were $20,000 a piece

[1:51:57] uh and so I can go forward and actually

[1:51:59] doing work on my property like I said a

[1:52:02] lifelong Pro uh a lifelong resident here

[1:52:04] I've been here for 48 years of my life

[1:52:06] I've owned that business for 24 years I

[1:52:08] recently purchased the property the main

[1:52:11] property 612 I paid off in about 2010

[1:52:14] and uh during the middle of Co is when I

[1:52:17] uh paid off the property joining next

[1:52:18] door and that was a nightmare all the

[1:52:20] money I had Sav was just taking out the

[1:52:22] gas tanks buyer beware now like I said

[1:52:24] I'm my firsttime business owner and when

[1:52:27] I took over that property I had the the greatest as you know aspirations of

[1:52:31] making it a great community and and and

[1:52:33] a spot it already is right now you drive

[1:52:35] by you don't look it I I beseech

[1:52:37] everybody that's on this board please

[1:52:38] come by and look at my business come

[1:52:39] inside and and and if you can find

[1:52:42] parking uh come in and take a look

[1:52:44] you'll see it it's a very

[1:52:45] community-driven uh Music Arts uh you

[1:52:48] know ultimately I wanted to expand

[1:52:50] towards the east and open up a kitchen

[1:52:51] and have it available for every want to

[1:52:53] come in and actually have a restaurant

[1:52:54] sit down family friendly environment but

[1:52:57] like I said I'm coming up to you guys

[1:52:59] tonight to see if uh what the correct

[1:53:01] steps would be for me to contact city

[1:53:04] council go there myself but like I said

[1:53:06] I was on this board I know coming to you

[1:53:08] guys first would probably be a better

[1:53:09] thing and seeing how we can go forth

[1:53:11] with this okay so thank you yeah go

[1:53:14] ahead Ken ask you and I know um our

[1:53:17] assistant City attorney want to U

[1:53:19] elaborate as well but um it's the Irish

[1:53:22] Pope yes sir next to Subway there yes

[1:53:25] and um so right now um he wouldn't be

[1:53:29] eligible for any of our grants because

[1:53:31] of the code violations because of the

[1:53:32] code violations yeah so those things

[1:53:34] have to be uh remedied before we could

[1:53:37] entertain any application um like I said

[1:53:40] I'm not a I'm not I've been here for 42

[1:53:42] or 48 years and I've owned that property

[1:53:44] and well I haven't owned it I've

[1:53:45] operated it for 22 years and my dad

[1:53:48] owned it from 86 to 92 so we're not

[1:53:51] going anywhere I'm not going to like

[1:53:52] turn around and sell the place and and look you guys make the fool I'm I

[1:53:56] legitimately I'm trying my best you know

[1:53:58] I'm doing it all by myself now that my

[1:54:00] dad's got a lot of health issues but uh

[1:54:04] I I any help uh I could get just so

[1:54:07] pointing in the right direction seeing

[1:54:09] what I can like I said I was on this

[1:54:11] board and we used to have a portal that

[1:54:12] you can go to that was a part of the

[1:54:14] website where you can see the grants and

[1:54:15] loes that are available I had it

[1:54:17] bookmarked I went to it and it is gone

[1:54:19] so like I said the only reason why I

[1:54:21] knew about this is one of another Main

[1:54:23] Street Merchant showed me a pamphlet

[1:54:25] which my picture of my building was on

[1:54:27] out about dilapidated buildings and and applying for these grants and I'm

[1:54:31] like well my building is right there I

[1:54:32] didn't have no clue about it so if it

[1:54:34] wasn't for this other Merchant I would

[1:54:35] have I would have not have known about

[1:54:37] it at all whatsoever right so like I

[1:54:40] said is there any step that you guys can

[1:54:42] could advise me I like I said I did not

[1:54:44] realize Miss Armstrong was on this board

[1:54:46] uh it makes sense now that I see your

[1:54:48] here uh but uh like I said I'm I'm going

[1:54:53] to debacle and anything you guys can

[1:54:54] advise me please I I'm I'm I'm I'm

[1:54:59] stuck so I don't know I I don't know

[1:55:03] what we can do if there's nothing we can do I I don't

[1:55:07] think Randy or at least bringing it to

[1:55:09] the county or not the county the uh City

[1:55:12] bring it to their you brought to their

[1:55:17] attention fines are imposed at a

[1:55:20] magistrate meeting is that I was even at

[1:55:22] a meeting I already have a lawyer

[1:55:24] involved there was he's he's trying to

[1:55:26] say there was no due process there was

[1:55:27] no letter sent to me uh I guess the

[1:55:30] whole reason why I could not do a lot of

[1:55:32] these uh repairs is because of the

[1:55:34] property being under the EPA and and

[1:55:36] there was ground monitoring leveling I

[1:55:38] couldn't do anything they had the

[1:55:39] property locked let me ask you about

[1:55:40] that that's like a Brownfield thing

[1:55:42] right yeah yeah yeah isn't doesn't the

[1:55:45] state

[1:55:47] have

[1:55:49] am I I tried right now Curr locked they are

[1:55:57] still to clean they do they do you're

[1:56:00] going to elaborate on could if you want

[1:56:02] let me say again Mr chair um his

[1:56:04] attorney I'm glad you brought it up your Le counsil have been in touch with

[1:56:09] our legal counsel correct correct and so

[1:56:11] there's there's conversation yeah so at

[1:56:13] this point I I I think that's what we

[1:56:16] have to leave like I said I just comeing

[1:56:18] across cuz one of my one of my friends

[1:56:19] said why don't you approach the board

[1:56:21] and that's why I kind of here like kind

[1:56:22] of a good idea to see if I can get some

[1:56:24] good direction and and like I said I've

[1:56:27] uh I've already talked to the City

[1:56:28] lawyer uh and they said that if I can

[1:56:30] get the the stuff that's on the uh the

[1:56:34] violations fixed then they'd be able to

[1:56:37] you know come to the city council and

[1:56:39] get the get the leans taken away of I've

[1:56:41] already tried to apply for loans

[1:56:43] construction loans anything and I've

[1:56:44] been denied every time because of the

[1:56:46] leans so that's where I'm at right now

[1:56:48] like I said I had an investor he was

[1:56:50] willing to put all the work into it as

[1:56:51] family friend I've known him since I was

[1:56:53] before I was born it was one of my my

[1:56:55] dad's fs and him having a heart attack

[1:56:57] in a stroke that's he had to back out we

[1:56:59] we'll follow up with code enforcement

[1:57:01] this where if if if the if the violation

[1:57:05] has been remed right no I don't know no

[1:57:07] the violations well I mean the stuff

[1:57:09] that I could do like the weeds trash

[1:57:10] graffiti painting I mean I'm pretty much

[1:57:13] out there you can ask Will he's he's

[1:57:14] walks by and sees me there's something

[1:57:16] wrong that I can physically do with my

[1:57:18] own two hands painting broken windows

[1:57:20] weeds uh with his construction uh

[1:57:22] they've torn up a heck a lot more of my

[1:57:24] parking lot uh which was always an issue

[1:57:26] but like I said uh with the F uh the EPA

[1:57:30] down there in the state they they have

[1:57:31] ground Wells of like every 5T on that

[1:57:34] property and I cannot touch it I can't

[1:57:36] put I can't put concrete

[1:57:38] over what are the construction cost what

[1:57:41] do you uh so far the one estimate I got

[1:57:43] is about 42,000 and that was just on the violations that's not even that is

[1:57:49] not even the concrete right now the

[1:57:50] concrete is something that I'm were

[1:57:52] going across the state uh what little

[1:57:55] two holes that were drawn out uh from

[1:57:58] the gas tanks had a little bit of T

[1:58:01] asphalt millings and dirt on top and now

[1:58:03] that the construction Crews come through

[1:58:05] they have parked gigantic excavators and

[1:58:07] it destroyed what was a little over that

[1:58:09] parking lot so that's another project

[1:58:11] that my lawyer is talking to about the

[1:58:13] uh the contractors to see if they can

[1:58:14] remedy the the destruction they've done

[1:58:16] in my parking

[1:58:18] lot yeah it's time yeah I think we'll keep an eye on this we'll come

[1:58:24] back to it if there's anything we can do

[1:58:26] to urge them to look at this I would

[1:58:27] hate for us to lose another business on

[1:58:29] our beach

[1:58:32] side yeah thank you guys I appreciate

[1:58:35] thank

[1:58:37] you see right else do we have here an

[1:58:40] Ruby come on

[1:58:44] up Ann Ruby 137 Park Avenue so what you

[1:58:48] guys did here tonight setting priorities

[1:58:50] uh is great and the city Commission in

[1:58:54] their last CRA meeting decided that they

[1:58:58] would have a have maybe I don't know if

[1:59:00] they decided quarterly or semiannually

[1:59:03] that they were going to have regular CRA

[1:59:05] meetings where they discussed things

[1:59:08] that weren't because usually they just rubber stamp something

[1:59:12] move on and there's really no discussion

[1:59:15] and that's not how a CRA is going to

[1:59:18] board is should be functioning that's my

[1:59:20] opinion so they did agree to start

[1:59:22] having I think quarterly meetings that

[1:59:25] we're going to start way at 4:30 or

[1:59:26] something um where they're going to

[1:59:28] actually discuss what's going on in the

[1:59:31] C so I would think that if Midtown and

[1:59:36] downtown could do list similar to this

[1:59:39] and then you guys can compile it and

[1:59:41] bring that forward for discussion that

[1:59:44] might be a great idea you know you know

[1:59:46] how I like to make work for other

[1:59:49] people but I think I I just think that

[1:59:52] would be a helpful way for you guys to

[1:59:53] have some input and I would hope at Le

[1:59:55] if those other two boards don't want to

[1:59:57] or don't have the opportunity to at

[1:59:59] least hopefully this could be on the

[2:00:01] agenda you're reading our minds we're

[2:00:04] going there we're gonna do it thank you

[2:00:05] yeah thank you man John

[2:00:09] Nicholson real quickly so if you don't

[2:00:12] understand it ask me uh one uh what do

[2:00:16] you want Main Street to look like what

[2:00:18] do you want Beachside to look like what

[2:00:20] do you want the boardwalk to look like

[2:00:22] what do you want A1A to look like all of

[2:00:24] these speak volumes not only for those

[2:00:27] of us that live here those of us that

[2:00:28] have our businesses here but also the

[2:00:31] tourist they want an attractive location

[2:00:34] they don't want to come to a dump all

[2:00:36] right and there are a lot of people if

[2:00:38] they come they don't like it they don't

[2:00:39] come back for years we had people coming

[2:00:42] back year after year after year staying

[2:00:44] at the same Hotel year at everybody knew

[2:00:47] everybody that's not the case anymore so

[2:00:50] we have to change to meet the standard

[2:00:52] so I'm asking you to find out what you

[2:00:54] wanted these things to look like what

[2:00:57] you wanted it to be uh secondly grants I

[2:01:00] would ask you to mail out grants we have

[2:01:02] addresses to all of our businesses in

[2:01:04] the CRA so they can't say I never got it

[2:01:07] I don't know about it because they don't

[2:01:10] nobody ever watches these meetings if

[2:01:13] you're a businessman how many of you

[2:01:14] would watch these meetings well because

[2:01:17] you're interested but most don't all

[2:01:19] right uh secondly I'm asking that uh uh

[2:01:23] A1A that Landscaping it almost finished

[2:01:26] with uh ISB you're supposed to go to a18

[2:01:31] next what they've D what they've

[2:01:34] envisioned is not what you guys want I'm

[2:01:36] telling you um those ballards at all the

[2:01:40] intersections 120 ballards having people

[2:01:43] walk into the street because they have

[2:01:44] to get around them these are going to be

[2:01:47] bad things taking away all the plants in

[2:01:49] the middle of the road because they want

[2:01:51] to curve the road they want to raise the

[2:01:53] intersection so they rise up and down

[2:01:56] there a lot of things that they want to

[2:01:57] do that as a tourist town we may not

[2:01:59] want to do um third camera positioning

[2:02:03] on cabb they had a bunch of pictures of

[2:02:06] what they were showing for six months I

[2:02:08] walked every Friday and Saturday for

[2:02:11] five hours to see what the problem was

[2:02:13] before we roll back to

[2:02:15] 3:00 the three worst locations where the

[2:02:19] shootings were are not covered by the

[2:02:21] cameras

[2:02:22] that to me doesn't make sense if that's

[2:02:24] where your problems are you really

[2:02:26] should have a camera where the problem

[2:02:28] is but we don't so we may want to look

[2:02:30] at that

[2:02:32] um Apartments I was just at the downtown

[2:02:36] Ser they were talking about a new

[2:02:38] apartment going on on on Ridgewood all

[2:02:40] right so they have the one on Beach

[2:02:42] Street they have the one on Ridgewood

[2:02:44] we're getting Apartments way up the

[2:02:46] street uh what is it Derbyshire or

[2:02:49] whatever it's called um but but 300

[2:02:53] Apartments we need much more than that

[2:02:55] but on Main Street there are used to be

[2:02:58] Apartments upstairs is there some way we

[2:03:01] could help renovate those locations so

[2:03:05] we can get bodies on the street because

[2:03:07] if they're living there they will come

[2:03:10] downstairs they will hit the shops below

[2:03:13] them and hopefully the beach and A1A and

[2:03:15] Boardwalk etc etc but we need bodies in

[2:03:18] the CRA area Delta which was Delta West

[2:03:22] which was on the meeting has

[2:03:24] property off of Main Street can we have

[2:03:28] a little asking of what you plan to do

[2:03:31] with the Delta Property between Main

[2:03:34] Street and Ocean Avenue thank you thank

[2:03:39] Youk all right we're on the board

[2:03:41] comments does anybody have any comments

[2:03:42] they'd like to

[2:03:44] add um I have one thing um so one thing

[2:03:48] that I didn't see in all of this that

[2:03:50] has a little bit of a I don't I wouldn't

[2:03:53] say it's a concern just a comment of

[2:03:54] mine I would like to find a way if we

[2:03:56] have any way to eliminate some of the

[2:03:58] red tape for businesses in the area

[2:04:01] because I think some of our issue as a

[2:04:04] city has always been we make things a

[2:04:06] little bit too prohibitive for

[2:04:08] businesses to open and sometimes even to

[2:04:10] stay open like with the gentleman we

[2:04:12] just had in front of us I mean I think

[2:04:14] if a business is making a concerted

[2:04:16] effort to make those changes why should

[2:04:17] we lose that business in our town

[2:04:20] especially if it's a wellestablished

[2:04:21] one that's been here that does well' be

[2:04:24] a shame to lose that and the same thing

[2:04:26] with our

[2:04:27] zoning I don't know if there's a way for

[2:04:29] us to look at it but some of our zoning

[2:04:32] seems like it was made up to stop

[2:04:34] businesses from opening so we have rdb

[2:04:37] one Rd B2 across from rb3 across from

[2:04:39] rdb 4 and they all have different spot

[2:04:41] zonings that require people to come in

[2:04:43] for a plan development and spend

[2:04:46] exorbitant amounts that they can spend

[2:04:47] on opening their

[2:04:48] business on that so I I wonder if

[2:04:51] there's a for us to take a look at that

[2:04:53] plan maybe relax some of it so we can

[2:04:56] see what the market actually decides

[2:04:58] instead of telling people not to open

[2:05:00] before they ever open and Mr chair I

[2:05:02] like to take small bites also we are we

[2:05:04] speaking of Main Street right now only

[2:05:07] uh Main Street and ISB Main Street and

[2:05:09] ISB our main two corridors right there

[2:05:11] on the beach side I think and we're

[2:05:13] talking about talking about buildings

[2:05:15] frontting ISB and running Main Street

[2:05:18] correct having having and I mean A1A as

[2:05:21] well probably

[2:05:23] and having the ability to be able to

[2:05:25] open up with not a lot of not as much

[2:05:27] red tape because I think historically I

[2:05:30] know from a lot of business owners I've

[2:05:31] talked to about coming yeah legitimate

[2:05:33] concern I've tried to give people to

[2:05:35] come down to that area and people say oh

[2:05:37] well I tried 15 years ago for 10 months

[2:05:41] and I just couldn't get through the city

[2:05:42] process and I think as a city we're at a

[2:05:45] different point now where we're trying

[2:05:47] to encourage people a lot more than we

[2:05:49] were say 10 years ago 15 years ago

[2:05:52] in Redevelopment are and we're they're

[2:05:54] in Redevelopment areas and we have the

[2:05:55] fun so I mean if there's a way for us to

[2:05:58] make the language less prohibitive yeah

[2:06:01] I I I have I have a good thing to add

[2:06:03] young lady over there should be first go

[2:06:05] ahead first okay I just wanted to ask

[2:06:07] what is the progress on the um sign so

[2:06:10] people would know I have so many people

[2:06:13] that come in they just wander from the

[2:06:15] Hilton and they go I can't believe

[2:06:18] you're here I had no idea I started

[2:06:20] walking and there were so many empty

[2:06:22] stores I had no idea you were here but

[2:06:26] they got there kiosk yeah we that's one of the things I mean it's not

[2:06:31] the the be all but I think the kiosk

[2:06:34] would help with that identifying what

[2:06:37] businesses are on Main on A1A on ISB in

[2:06:41] close proximity yeah I just wondered

[2:06:43] what the progress was on the one signage

[2:06:48] thing this whatever right signage was

[2:06:51] there were about five of us who had

[2:06:52] signage things well can I but I can miss

[2:06:56] hrey I I can say that um uh about four

[2:07:00] of the uh department heads have been um

[2:07:03] uh we've been doing our research on

[2:07:05] who's got kios throughout the State of

[2:07:06] Florida the cities um so the last couple

[2:07:09] weeks I probably had four teams meeting

[2:07:12] where we're we've um had meetings with

[2:07:15] other cities and trying to determine how

[2:07:17] did they go about um getting their kiosk

[2:07:20] because these are cities that already have them um and what was the

[2:07:23] cost um of it and and and you know how

[2:07:26] they're using it so we're in that

[2:07:29] process then we're going to dump it off

[2:07:31] to um purchase and to put it out to B do

[2:07:34] we have any rfps out there oh yeah

[2:07:36] plenty of them we got we got several of

[2:07:38] them okay yeah and that was part of our

[2:07:41] due diligence with talking to these

[2:07:43] other um cities that already have them

[2:07:46] well and I the one thing I wanted to add

[2:07:49] is that the current staff is why I have

[2:07:53] so much respect for you is this staff

[2:07:56] right now finds a reason to tell us yes

[2:07:59] years before they found reasons to tell

[2:08:01] us no so the old Daytona is no longer

[2:08:05] the old Daytona this is the new Daytona

[2:08:08] so if we can make it easier that's great

[2:08:10] but here's the problem with that now

[2:08:13] I've been I'm a business person I've

[2:08:14] tried to put I got so much I have

[2:08:17] acreage on East ISB on either side I've

[2:08:20] tried to come up with a lot of things

[2:08:22] cities disagreed with one of those

[2:08:23] things but you know what hindsight

[2:08:25] looking

[2:08:26] back there was a there's a reason for

[2:08:29] that because it's not just about what I

[2:08:32] want it's really what the city needs and

[2:08:34] what I want and the biggest thing with

[2:08:38] myself personally taken out of this

[2:08:40] equation is that what I've learned is to

[2:08:46] try to do something that will benefit

[2:08:48] the city so that's why I look to the

[2:08:50] staff and the the zoning restrictions to

[2:08:53] try to guide me in that now maybe we can

[2:08:55] tweak them different ways I mean I agree

[2:08:57] but we're looking at zoning standards

[2:08:59] that were set in the early 90s and if

[2:09:01] they were going to work they would have

[2:09:02] worked by now in my own opinion well they're they're going just my

[2:09:05] opinion well I I'm going to tell you

[2:09:07] this and this is previous to this staff

[2:09:10] getting here the past city manager my my

[2:09:13] property on 326 South Grand View excuse

[2:09:17] me sorry my property on 326 South Grand

[2:09:20] View the middle of my property was

[2:09:22] accidentally changed to residential I

[2:09:25] couldn't occupy my building for over

[2:09:27] three years I had to go to the new city

[2:09:30] manager and the the gentleman the young

[2:09:33] lady across street they straightened it

[2:09:34] up for me right

[2:09:36] so and I'm not just doing this because I like you guys you're doing your

[2:09:42] job you know what I mean so uh to say

[2:09:45] that I can't say it's difficult I feel

[2:09:47] so comfortable almost in tears all the

[2:09:50] stuff you done you know what I'm saying

[2:09:52] very polite very and I agree with you

[2:09:54] though that we can make things easier

[2:09:57] but we also got to be careful because if

[2:09:59] you get years ago I wasn't the nicest

[2:10:02] guy I ran strip clubs I I did own got to

[2:10:05] be careful yeah but what I'm saying is not everything is

[2:10:10] good for business on beach side and we

[2:10:13] have to kind of within reason yeah and I

[2:10:17] trust them to guide me that way thank

[2:10:20] you thank you thank you will thank you

[2:10:23] Ken thank you Angela anybody else NOP

[2:10:26] all right meeting a

[2:10:27] Jour did you find

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Beachside Redevelopment Board - Sep 11 2024

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