[0:09] thank you know what I messed up

[0:25] no you don't know

[0:34] thank you

[0:38] good evening everyone welcome to the

[0:40] Eustis City Commission meeting this is

[0:43] our regular City commission meeting it

[0:44] is Thursday September the 22nd it is 6

[0:47] p.m if you would like to join us in a

[0:50] moment of silence and the pledge to our

[0:53] flag please stand

[1:07] amen commissioner Smith join me in the

[1:10] pledge I pledge allegiance

[1:13] of the United States of America and to

[1:16] the Republic for which it stands one

[1:19] nation under God indivisible with

[1:22] liberty and justice for all

[1:25] thank you all

[1:27] officially call our meeting to order

[1:29] Christine and Sarah corn president

[1:31] proper notice been given yes thank you

[1:34] so much Tom an agenda update yes sir

[1:37] [Music]

[1:37] um

[1:38] agenda item 5.1 and 5.2 we would like to

[1:43] remove those from consent and put those

[1:46] under ordinances public hearings and

[1:48] quasi-judicial hearings so in effect

[1:50] we're just moving them from one section

[1:52] to another and they're still in the same

[1:54] order on the agenda perfect thank you

[1:56] sir next we have approval of minutes and

[2:00] we have the minutes from July 5th 2022

[2:02] regular City commission meeting what's

[2:04] the will of the commission absolutely

[2:06] second thank you first to second any

[2:09] further discussion not hearing any roll

[2:11] call please commissioner hope Smith aye

[2:13] commissioner Cobb aye commissioner

[2:15] Hawkins aye vice mayor Lee aye mayor

[2:17] Holland aye next we have presentations

[2:20] first off we've got the Eustis High

[2:22] School future Business Leaders of

[2:23] America come on up

[2:26] it's good to have you all with us

[2:29] tonight

[2:31] thank you so much for the invitation

[2:33] good evening mayor vice mayor City

[2:35] commissioners and the city manager and

[2:38] the City attorney and

[2:41] the city of Houston staff my name is

[2:43] Sonja white I am the FBLA advisor for

[2:46] Eustis High School this is our second

[2:48] year and we want to say thank you so

[2:50] much we do have a small PowerPoint

[2:53] presentation

[2:58] and first of all I want to say a huge

[3:03] heartfelt thank you for the City of

[3:05] Eustis thank you so much for supporting

[3:07] our students last year we had the

[3:10] opportunity to travel to Chicago for the

[3:13] future Business Leaders of America

[3:15] national competition we had two students

[3:18] from Houston this was like the first

[3:20] time in about eight years I believe that

[3:23] we had two students to compete in the

[3:26] National even though they did not place

[3:28] in Nashville but the experience and the

[3:32] exposure that they got was just totally

[3:34] phenomenal and one of the students she

[3:36] was currently a freshman in Dallas Texas

[3:38] at Baylor University so she was in FBLA

[3:43] pretty much our whole time at Eustis

[3:46] High School so we are very excited for

[3:48] her but also we're excited to kick off

[3:51] this year and I just wanted to let the

[3:54] audience know exactly what your donation

[3:57] and your support for Eustis High School

[4:00] what we're doing we have a a few

[4:02] community events that we like to do this

[4:04] year and of course it's the continuation

[4:06] of the socks for seniors where we donate

[4:09] socks to we have adopted Lake Eustis

[4:12] nursing home and the Eustis Head Start

[4:15] program we are providing socks for their

[4:18] children and providing socks for their

[4:20] seniors it's no cost to them this is our

[4:23] community event for the FBLA and of

[4:27] course this year we're going to support

[4:28] and kick off the March of Dimes which is

[4:31] fbla's

[4:33] um baby that's their baby of fundraisers

[4:36] I mean community events and of course

[4:38] Eustis High School we are doing the

[4:40] panther Pantry because you know with the

[4:43] um pandemic a lot of people lost jobs a

[4:46] lot of families are in need but we are

[4:48] so thankful for you since high school

[4:50] where we can contribute non-perishable

[4:53] food items some of us give out our

[4:55] pockets and some of us have like

[4:57] relatives that have small businesses

[4:59] that donate to that and believe it or

[5:02] not this year

[5:04] the staff the administrative has told us

[5:07] that there is a huge need and what they

[5:11] have done was they put together a survey

[5:13] where the students can go in confidence

[5:16] they will go on a complete a survey

[5:18] letting us know who is in need and what

[5:21] they're in need of and it's on both

[5:22] campuses it's on the ninth grade Center

[5:24] and on the main campus as well so

[5:28] this is very dear um of course FBLA does

[5:31] a lot of Charity and yes we do solicit

[5:34] donations but we give back as well and

[5:37] I'm so excited to be the advice and I'm

[5:39] so excited tonight I have our district

[5:41] director and Miss Debbie sear here with

[5:44] me she's

[5:46] showed me the ropes and guided me

[5:48] through this so I'm very thankful for

[5:51] that our food box drive that we are

[5:53] doing is of course during the month of

[5:55] November it kicks off October 1st the

[5:58] time for the students to leave for the

[6:00] Thanksgiving holidays and you know a lot

[6:02] of students are dependent on the free

[6:05] breakfast and the free lunch so we are

[6:08] going to start early at any time you can

[6:10] do drop off there will be a box place on

[6:13] both campuses for the non-perishable

[6:15] food items of course items that they can

[6:18] use if they don't have any electricity

[6:20] we do have students that are homeless we

[6:22] have students that are in shelters

[6:24] and in foster care but we're trying to

[6:26] do our best uh we are blessed to have

[6:30] these things and we are giving back to

[6:31] our community as well so we will be

[6:34] doing that both November and December

[6:36] and also

[6:40] um these are just pictures from our

[6:41] previous just to let you know that we're

[6:43] just not up here talking we have

[6:45] evidence of what we're doing and the

[6:47] kids they enjoy giving back um this is

[6:50] uh miss here and I we were at the Lake

[6:52] Eustis nursing home and of course we

[6:55] have their permission

[6:56] um to post their pictures and we're so

[6:58] thankful for the City of Eustis that

[7:00] come out when we had our heritage

[7:02] festival at the Eustis campus and also

[7:05] we give back to the um uses Head Start

[7:08] program and this is our food drive that

[7:10] we're giving back now what we're asking

[7:13] for because I'm so excited that we had

[7:17] our first meeting and we had 15 new

[7:21] students to want to be a part of it so

[7:24] they were aware of what FBLA was doing

[7:27] at uses and also the opportunities that

[7:30] we're giving them we're very thankful

[7:31] that we're again the local community to

[7:33] partner with us they have businesses and

[7:36] I'm so proud that over the summer one of

[7:39] the local business here in Eustis hired

[7:41] one of our students for the summer

[7:43] program and another one that was in

[7:45] Leesburg even though they were in Lake

[7:47] County they hired our students so not

[7:49] only are we being involved we're

[7:51] competing nationally but we are training

[7:54] our students in our CTE program to be

[7:57] equipped and to be ready to

[7:59] be productive citizens in Corporate

[8:03] America as well we um we have combined

[8:06] with um the encourage it's an

[8:09] organization that is doing a survey to

[8:11] see where our students want to go to

[8:13] college offer them scholarships give

[8:15] them those resources that in a normal

[8:17] setting they would not get it so we are

[8:19] very thankful that the FBLA students and

[8:22] Entrepreneurship program at Eustis High

[8:25] School we can get that stuff that makes

[8:27] sure that this next generation will not

[8:29] be a forgotten generation would not be a

[8:32] Lost Generation because we are Village

[8:34] Keepers and we are here to help equip

[8:37] our students so I am asking if the City

[8:40] of Eustis along with the entire Lake

[8:43] County those that have small businesses

[8:45] or are aware of a business if they can

[8:48] give a donation

[8:50] if they can give her a donation

[8:52] um to Eustis High School to the FBLA

[8:55] program we are going to be competing at

[8:57] a local level a state level and

[9:01] hopefully again this year on the

[9:02] national level we're excited that this

[9:05] year come November our elective officers

[9:08] will be participating in the fall

[9:10] National Conference which will be held

[9:13] in Orlando so we're getting them early

[9:15] to get them ready so I'm super excited

[9:18] about that I'm super excited that

[9:20] they're here learning about government

[9:21] even though it is almost an election

[9:24] year but every little bit helps and we

[9:27] want them to be equipped we want them to

[9:29] be prepared we're educating them that at

[9:31] 16 you can pre-register to vote so we

[9:34] want them to know everything that there

[9:36] is to know and how to be successful

[9:39] productive positive citizens so as the

[9:43] FBLA advisor I am asking if you would

[9:46] just think back you can process or when

[9:49] you was in high school or when you was

[9:51] trying to find that job did you not have

[9:54] the tools that you needed to be

[9:55] successful did you not know how to type

[9:58] how to write a resume how to fill out an

[10:01] application so remember our students of

[10:03] Eustis High School

[10:05] all the information is up there and we

[10:08] do have flyers in different colors for

[10:11] you to have and just to read over and

[10:13] let you know what FBLA is all about and

[10:16] like I said we are Village Keepers and

[10:18] it takes a whole village as you can see

[10:20] in the last three years it's taken

[10:23] everybody it's taking the local grocery

[10:25] store manager is taking Miss Jones

[10:27] across the street it's taking the

[10:29] babysitter you know the Publix person

[10:32] the library and everybody to help shape

[10:35] and mold our citizens our students for

[10:38] the Next Generation they're going to be

[10:40] the ones when we retire being the

[10:42] decision making so we want to make sure

[10:44] that they are equipped and they have

[10:46] everything that they need to be

[10:49] successful and I thank you so much for

[10:51] your time Sonya thank you so much thank

[10:54] you for what you're doing with that

[10:55] program when I was in high school at

[10:58] Eustis it was a strong program and

[11:01] you're growing it back to what it used

[11:02] to be so thank you so much thank you

[11:04] would you like to introduce some of your

[11:06] students yes I'm asking all of my

[11:09] students so please stand up we're so

[11:12] glad some of them are trying out for the

[11:15] flag football

[11:16] [Applause]

[11:23] and I'm so glad that their parents came

[11:25] with them their parents didn't just

[11:27] dropped them off they're here as well so

[11:29] we are a family and then to take once

[11:31] again it takes a village and I thank you

[11:33] for your time Sonia thank you and we'll

[11:34] get that on our website also to help you

[11:36] out okay thank you so much thank you oh

[11:38] also yes ma'am the City of Eustis did

[11:41] help us

[11:42] financially last year I just want to let

[11:45] you know and I think the citizens for

[11:48] everything that you've done thank you

[11:51] next we've got recognition of our Miss

[11:53] Eustis Queens I'm going to ask Rachel

[11:56] Henderson to come up and help me Rachel

[11:58] is a former Miss Eustis and has been

[12:01] running the program since 2017 and I am

[12:05] very proud of Rachel and all she's done

[12:06] you can help me introduce our young

[12:08] ladies we just had this pageant when um

[12:11] August right yes August end of August

[12:14] and every one of these girls did a

[12:16] fantastic job

[12:18] absolutely and I'm going to tell you we

[12:21] don't have any better ambassadors than

[12:24] the ladies that serve through the Miss

[12:26] Eustis program this commission works

[12:29] hard on a daily basis trying to get out

[12:30] in the public but I'm going to tell you

[12:32] these people really these young ladies

[12:35] really touch a lot of folks when they're

[12:37] out in the community so I look forward

[12:39] to working with each one of you for the

[12:41] next year I mean I know the rest of the

[12:43] Commissioners are excited so I've got

[12:46] some pins behind us I'll let you grab a

[12:48] pen and what we're going to do we're

[12:50] going to give you your pins tonight and

[12:51] at the end of the year we'll give them

[12:53] their certificates okay let's go ahead

[12:56] and start with many Miss Eustis and

[12:59] that's Blake Bill Blake can you come up

[13:01] here

[13:03] come on Blake

[13:11] and I know we don't want to take this

[13:12] away from from Blake but Blake's mama is

[13:16] the coach of our uh

[13:18] state championship softball team at

[13:21] Eustis High School so she's here tonight

[13:23] too I think so

[13:27] next we have the tiny misuse and that's

[13:30] Delaney Poe van Durham is that correct

[13:33] Bender me okay come on up

[13:42] hi

[13:44] and next we have Little Miss Eustis and

[13:47] that's Caroline Flint Carolyn how are

[13:49] you

[13:51] beautiful

[13:54] and next we have Junior Miss Eustis and

[13:58] that's Sydney Savory Sydney how are you

[14:00] tonight good

[14:04] and then teen misused us we have Lauren

[14:07] simple is that correct Lauren how are

[14:09] you good

[14:12] and then our misuse this year is Taylor

[14:16] Davidson Taylor how are you good

[14:20] so

[14:24] [Applause]

[14:28] what we're going to do is I'm going to

[14:29] get the commission to stand we're going

[14:31] to kind of Center the girls there we'll

[14:33] take a picture we'll get this out on

[14:34] Facebook

[14:43] okay

[14:47] everybody okay

[14:53] it's me

[14:57] look right here

[15:01] perfect okay so we got some parrots we

[15:04] got some parents

[15:11] congratulations

[15:25] I'll be there

[15:27] Fall Festival I love it thank you all

[15:31] have a great night thank you you say

[15:33] thank you

[15:36] [Applause]

[15:55] give them just a second so they can

[15:57] leave

[16:05] and next we have comprehensive plan and

[16:07] Joint planning area review Tom yes

[16:10] um

[16:11] as you will remember uh we secured the

[16:15] services of gunster law firm uh to

[16:18] review some items related to our

[16:20] comprehensive plan and the joint

[16:22] planning area agreement with Lake County

[16:24] and so we have here tonight Derek Bruce

[16:27] and Jack Rice from gunster who are going

[16:30] to talk to you a little bit about their research you should have received

[16:36] some information from City attorney

[16:38] Derek Shroff related to their findings

[16:40] but they're here to present those

[16:42] findings tonight thank you good to see

[16:44] you my friend mayor good to see you as

[16:46] well Commissioners a pleasure to be with

[16:48] you all this evening and uh Tom thank

[16:50] you very much for uh for that

[16:52] introduction uh so on on this particular

[16:56] assignment what uh what I thought would

[16:58] be really beneficial is to uh is to

[17:02] utilize when you have resources like our

[17:05] firm does and that we can make available

[17:07] to you we have people with with very

[17:10] specific expertise and and the person

[17:13] that that I thought would be best suited

[17:15] for the for the assignment and the

[17:17] research and giving you all the the

[17:18] advice for which you were looking on the

[17:20] map 19 issue is Jack Rice uh Jack has

[17:24] been uh either legal counsel or special

[17:27] counsel to five different uh uh cities

[17:30] and and counties as well as has a

[17:33] master's degree in in urban planning and

[17:36] so he is intimately familiar with uh

[17:39] with the issues that that you have asked

[17:42] about and and really dove in so I'm

[17:44] gonna turn it over to Jack who's got a

[17:46] little presentation uh that uh

[17:49] will hopefully give you all the

[17:51] information you need and we'll be here

[17:52] for questions as well thank you Gary

[17:54] welcome Chad thank you thank you mayor

[17:56] thank you Derek good morning good

[17:58] evening everybody thank you for having

[17:59] me

[18:00] um

[18:01] just as Derek said my name is Jack Rice

[18:03] I'm attorney at gunster and I prime

[18:05] practice primarily in the areas of land

[18:06] use and Zoning I will warn you that I am

[18:09] also a nerd when it comes to planning

[18:10] and learning which means that there are

[18:12] lots of details in my head so I'm going

[18:15] to try to go through this as quickly and

[18:16] succinctly as possible but feel free to

[18:19] follow up and ask me some you know

[18:21] general questions if you have any

[18:23] um the first thing I kind of wanted to

[18:25] look

[18:25] kind of look at everything from a

[18:27] sky-high view the questions that we were

[18:28] assigned and what the results were and

[18:30] then we'll kind of go into the details

[18:31] so the first question that we were

[18:33] opposed with was weather removal of map

[18:35] 19 would invalidate the city of eustis's

[18:37] jpa with the county the answer is no

[18:40] resolution 87 34 that establishes the

[18:44] jpa that is going to remain in effect

[18:46] even if map 19 is removed from your comp

[18:49] plan the reason is is because this

[18:51] resolution is an independent legal

[18:53] instrument it has a map attached to it

[18:56] and that map identifies the areas where

[18:59] the provisions related to

[19:00] intergovernmental coordination

[19:02] annexation and just general you know

[19:05] joint planning occur so even if map 19

[19:09] is removed the jpa's obligations and

[19:12] those boundaries will remain unchanged

[19:13] because of the map attached to your

[19:15] resolution that is still in effect with

[19:17] the county

[19:18] um the next question was whether removal

[19:20] of map 19 would create some

[19:21] inconsistencies or otherwise be

[19:23] incompatible with the comp plans of

[19:25] either the county or Eustis the answer

[19:28] there again is No removal of map19 will

[19:31] really create no inconsistencies with

[19:33] either comp plan there is some text

[19:35] within your own comprehensive plan that

[19:37] will need to be changed just to avoid

[19:39] internal inconsistencies which is as a

[19:42] general policy matter your comp plan

[19:44] will remain the same and will remain in

[19:46] effect and it'll be fine

[19:48] there will also be no issue if the

[19:50] County's comp plan as I'll point out

[19:52] during my presentation the County's comp

[19:53] plan actually does not make reference to

[19:55] the jpa with Eustis

[19:59] in fact it after our review it actually

[20:01] seems that if you removed map 19 it

[20:03] would really offer a lot of clarity and

[20:05] eliminate a lot of confusion and then

[20:07] finally we were asked to look at math 19

[20:09] and the effect of the interlocal

[20:11] agreement you all have with Mount Dora

[20:13] and once again the answers no there

[20:16] wouldn't be an issue there because your

[20:18] interlocal agreement with Mount Dora

[20:19] would continue to remain as a

[20:21] freestanding legal agreement it has a

[20:23] map attached and that agreement and map

[20:26] have their own obligations which would

[20:28] continue even if mat 19 is removed

[20:31] um so to quickly go through things in

[20:33] Greater detail

[20:34] um resolution 8734 as we've just talked

[20:37] about it today that's rather older

[20:39] documents from July of 87. it was

[20:42] executed by both the City of Eustis and

[20:43] the county it allowed usages to Annex

[20:46] properties into a jpa area that were

[20:48] identified on a map that's being shown

[20:50] on the screens in front of you it also

[20:52] said that eventually that a jpa plan

[20:54] would be mutually adopted by both the

[20:57] county and Eustis and that that plan

[20:59] once it was adopted would would

[21:02] basically guide the growth for this area

[21:04] and then one of the notable portions of

[21:06] the resolution that says quote until

[21:08] then the city and county and the interim

[21:11] period will regulate development in the

[21:13] jpa in accordance with their currently

[21:15] adopted comprehensive plans in any

[21:17] Amendment and when we started to go

[21:19] through the history of the Eustis plan

[21:21] it it we found basically in records that

[21:24] the county never actually no Mutual

[21:25] adoption occurred so the status

[21:28] currently is zero resolution is what

[21:30] governs until the two bodies come

[21:32] together and are able to adopt a plan

[21:34] and outline their future

[21:36] and the way we found that out was we we

[21:38] went back in history and we looked at

[21:39] your first plan and what I'm showing up

[21:42] on the map right now that is the one of

[21:44] the maps that was attached and

[21:45] identified in your first comprehensive

[21:46] plan as the the map of the Eustis area

[21:49] now I'm assuming everybody in this room

[21:52] knows even better than myself that when

[21:54] you look at that map that includes areas

[21:56] that are not in the City of Eustis and

[21:59] so what was interesting was when we

[22:01] contacted the Florida Department of

[22:02] Economic Opportunity which is the

[22:04] current successor to the Department of

[22:06] Community Affairs we were we had to go

[22:09] through the record records and we were

[22:11] told first a we found a memorandum that

[22:13] you know recited the fact that the

[22:15] county never adopted this plan but it

[22:17] also said that you know this map created

[22:19] confusion because it's got two different

[22:21] sets two different jurisdictions within

[22:23] it and it said only Eustis can basically

[22:27] you know Implement planning designations

[22:30] for properties in Eustis and by putting

[22:33] designations for both useless properties

[22:35] and the county in one you're creating

[22:37] some confusion

[22:39] and it appears that that that confusion

[22:42] kind of persisted

[22:44] um once again the original comp plans

[22:47] memos or from DCA basically said their

[22:49] recommendation was that you try to pull

[22:51] the two maps apart so that you had one

[22:53] that identified just properties and

[22:55] Eustis and one that identified

[22:56] properties in the other in the county

[22:58] and the rationale was because the County

[23:01] Properties could not be planned really

[23:04] by Eustis and so like I said that

[23:07] confusion appears to have persisted

[23:09] because in 2010 when the city was

[23:11] reviewing its comprehensive plan a

[23:13] consultant came in and basically

[23:15] suggested that you guys take the maps

[23:17] apart and have one showing just Eustis

[23:19] and one showing just County or just this

[23:22] jpa area

[23:23] but in effect what happened was you had

[23:26] another map that was adopted showing the

[23:29] both the planning designations for both

[23:31] cities

[23:33] um and so

[23:35] what I'm showing on the map is basically

[23:37] it's still map19 today it was adapted in

[23:40] 2010 and it's still presently in your

[23:42] comprehensive plan when we take a closer

[23:44] look at it you can see that there are

[23:46] some language and some policies in it or

[23:49] actually referenced on it that kind of

[23:50] show that this was probably never

[23:51] intended to really become a binding plan that would you know

[23:55] regulate this body so if we zoom in it's

[23:58] not really showing up on this screen I

[23:59] apologize but you'll see references to a

[24:03] non-transmitted map a draft map a

[24:06] working copy and so these basically tell

[24:09] us what probably got happened what may

[24:11] have happened was you know the wrong

[24:12] document got put in when things got sent

[24:14] off to the DCA to be adopted but in

[24:17] effect the current the current document

[24:19] just really creates confusion and it

[24:21] doesn't need to be there and there are

[24:24] other policies within your comp plan

[24:26] that do address

[24:28] um

[24:30] I'm sorry the the do address the or

[24:32] acknowledge the existence of the jpa so

[24:35] even if map 19 was pulled out there are

[24:37] freestanding policies within your

[24:39] comprehensive plan that reference the

[24:40] existence of that jpa and will continue

[24:42] to continue to bind you and also

[24:46] basically show the city's commitment to

[24:48] work with the county within the jpa area

[24:50] for purposes of annexation and

[24:52] intergovernmental coordination

[24:54] before we really you know opine on you

[24:57] know the effect it will have on the

[24:58] county plan we had to look at the county

[24:59] plan and what we found was the county

[25:01] plan really doesn't mention the jpa with

[25:03] Eustis we know that the county is aware

[25:06] of the resolution and that they

[25:08] currently consider it to still be in

[25:10] effect but the comprehensive plan itself

[25:12] it doesn't make any mention of the jpa

[25:14] what I'm showing on the screen right now

[25:16] is the future the County's future Lane

[25:17] use map exhibit number five which

[25:19] identifies the various joint planning

[25:22] areas within uh the County's

[25:25] jurisdictions and what you'll see is it

[25:28] shows jbas with Lady Lake Claremont and

[25:31] Mount Dora but not Eustis and that's

[25:33] likely because the county is aware just

[25:35] like I said before that the resolution

[25:36] itself continues to kind of stand on its

[25:39] own and bind the two entities

[25:41] um and so in regard to the first two

[25:43] questions it's pretty clear that removal

[25:45] of map 19 would not create any

[25:47] inconsistencies with Eustis or the

[25:49] county plans

[25:50] if anything it will create you know

[25:53] Clarity for individuals when they're

[25:55] looking at the Eustis plan and it will

[25:57] really kind of clear things up because

[25:58] the one thing you'll have which will

[26:00] continue to bind that you can point

[26:02] people to is the original resolution

[26:04] which is what set all of this up

[26:07] um in regard to Mount Dora

[26:09] which is which is what we're discussing

[26:11] you know question number three

[26:13] um mount doors basically you guys have

[26:15] an interlocal agreement with them you

[26:17] entered into that into local agreement

[26:19] in 2003 it expires in December of 2023

[26:23] unless it's terminated it is an

[26:26] automatically renewing agreement and

[26:28] what does it do it sets out purposes and

[26:30] terms for planning providing utilities

[26:32] as well as intergovernmental

[26:33] coordination and most notably it says

[26:36] that Eustis and Mount Dora will not

[26:38] Annex any property in each other's

[26:40] planning areas and identifies that

[26:42] planning area by resort to a map that

[26:44] I'm showing on the screen

[26:46] and

[26:48] it basically it says that you know this

[26:51] map will take effect once Eustis

[26:53] acknowledges it and once the county got

[26:55] I'm sorry once Mount Dora acknowledge it

[26:57] and their comprehensive plans you have a

[26:59] text provision and your comprehensive

[27:01] plan I believe it's intergovernmental

[27:03] coordination policy 1.3.5 which

[27:06] basically States or recognizes the

[27:07] existence of the interlocal agreement it

[27:09] says that you will continue to work with

[27:12] it and be bound by it and that you'll

[27:14] continue to work with Mount Dora to uh

[27:16] to honor it so Eustis is fulfilled it's

[27:19] part of the bargain in that regard what

[27:21] is the mount doors comprehensive plan

[27:23] say again it's got language

[27:27] I'm sorry this is the language in the

[27:29] Eustis comprehensive plan that

[27:30] acknowledges the existence of the jpa

[27:32] not the jpa with the interlocal

[27:33] agreement

[27:38] and next I have the language and the

[27:40] Mount Dora comprehensive plan that talks

[27:42] about and acknowledges the existence of

[27:44] the interlocal agreement with Eustis

[27:46] so if you remove map 19 you won't be

[27:49] touching this these languages in either

[27:51] comprehensive plan those will continue

[27:53] to be in existence and you'll continue

[27:55] to be bound by the interlocal agreement

[27:57] and it really won't have any effect on

[27:59] the interlocal agreement status with

[28:02] Mount Dora

[28:04] um so that's kind of how we got to our

[28:06] answers I've I know I've set them out in

[28:07] Greater detail but I hope I haven't

[28:08] bored you all to death if you guys have

[28:10] any questions I'm more than happy to

[28:12] answer to them and it's been a pleasure

[28:13] to look into both y'all's histories and

[28:16] futures

[28:17] any questions subject

[28:20] yeah good job he brought Clarity for me

[28:24] because I I read every bit of this and I

[28:28] just it was nice to have legal

[28:31] view overview of this whole entire thing

[28:34] you know sometimes we can interpret

[28:36] things differently and to have someone

[28:38] give us a legal you know a view of it is

[28:41] wonderful because I was getting

[28:43] yes no yes no yes no yes no and finally

[28:46] I said I'm not doing anything until we

[28:48] get some clarity so I it helps me

[28:51] tremendously thank you we're glad we

[28:53] could help

[28:53] thank you so much Derek thank you so

[28:56] much

[28:58] Tom I'd like to go ahead and ask that

[28:59] this be put on a future agenda so we can

[29:02] go ahead and clarify this

[29:03] okay

[29:05] thank you

[29:06] next we come down to audience to be

[29:09] heard

[29:10] um and this is about anybody I'd like to

[29:12] speak about something but it's not on

[29:13] our agenda this evening got anybody's

[29:16] home uh yes I have a card for niana

[29:18] Patel okay

[29:21] hi Mrs Patel hello

[29:23] good evening everybody pull it down

[29:25] that's fine yes ma'am

[29:27] um a couple of weeks ago we got I sent

[29:31] something to Mr schroth that um we're

[29:34] done with everything we needed to get

[29:36] done and we're ready to move on and I

[29:39] I'm sure Mr Schott sent something over

[29:42] to you guys and I was wondering if we

[29:45] could set some sort of a date or I don't

[29:47] know what our next steps are again this

[29:49] is so new for me

[29:50] so I don't know what I think Tom has

[29:53] some information for you okay so

[29:55] um the I believe at a previous meeting

[29:58] the city commission asked that the code enforcement board uh reviewed

[30:03] this and so right now uh staff is

[30:05] pulling together the information needed

[30:07] and it will go to the code enforcement

[30:10] board I think the plan is to go to the

[30:12] code board in October which will be the next code board uh meeting the code

[30:20] board meets the second Monday of the

[30:22] month and so I don't have a calendar in

[30:25] front of me

[30:27] so that it the plan would be for that to

[30:29] be to to for that to go to the code

[30:31] board on October 10th am I supposed to

[30:34] attend that meeting I if I was you I

[30:36] would be a definite meeting okay on

[30:38] October 10th once they're completed with

[30:40] it it will come back to the city

[30:41] commission so you're probably back in

[30:43] front of the Commission in November okay all righty sounds good thank you

[30:48] again

[30:50] anybody else Tom uh yes

[30:54] um we have a discussion related to

[31:00] um chickens on the agenda but it's under

[31:03] other business which generally does not

[31:05] allow for public input you can hear it

[31:07] now so I have Aaron Phillips all right

[31:13] how are you Aaron

[31:15] good thank you for being back tonight

[31:17] thank you for hearing

[31:20] can you hear me okay fantastic

[31:23] um

[31:25] good evening my name is Aaron Phillips

[31:26] and I represent a few families here in

[31:28] the Eustis area and surrounding

[31:30] communities and we would like to thank

[31:32] the City commissioners for taking time

[31:34] once again to hear the concerns of

[31:36] residents in regards to keeping backyard

[31:38] chickens within Cinemas city limits

[31:40] we've heard your concerns and Views

[31:42] about keeping chickens in the previous

[31:43] meeting and we are under the under we

[31:47] are of the understanding this has been a

[31:49] reoccurring issue it's it seems like it

[31:51] continues to come up over the years uh

[31:53] we'd like to help overcome this obstacle

[31:55] and move forward together I assure you

[31:57] although we might ruffle some feathers

[31:59] we won't pluck you I had to I had to I

[32:04] can't fall so first when we speak about

[32:07] chickens we're referring to keeping and

[32:09] not raising uh hens in the backyards no

[32:11] roosters this keeps our dialogue clear

[32:13] of potential agricultural concerns which

[32:16] were brought up in the past and

[32:18] regulations as residents of this city

[32:20] and members of the surrounding

[32:21] communities we are respectfully offering

[32:22] the city our recommended guidelines for

[32:24] keeping backyard chickens members of our

[32:27] safety and preparedness team our

[32:29] education team and our Civics team have

[32:31] researched and collaborated on these

[32:32] proposed guidelines an effort to assist

[32:34] and streamline the ordinance and code

[32:36] writing processes our group has analyzed

[32:39] almost 50 cities and counties here in

[32:40] Florida that allow for the keeping of

[32:42] chickens

[32:43] it turned out to be quite the Endeavor

[32:46] but a phenomenal exercise and experience

[32:48] for us nonetheless we compared we tried

[32:52] our best I promise we compared City

[32:55] areas populations population densities

[32:57] as well as traditions and culture

[32:59] we found little to no correlation

[33:02] between them we then compared the

[33:04] different city codes and ordinances

[33:06] guidelines and requirements in a gown

[33:07] again found no real solid consistencies

[33:11] there we did however find wordy verbiage

[33:14] gratuitous regulations and excessive

[33:16] educational requirements for something

[33:17] humans have been accomplishing for

[33:19] literally thousands of years I'm sure

[33:20] that's been brought to your attention

[33:21] here in the past as well therefore we

[33:24] decided to use the same search and

[33:25] comparison criteria for these guidelines

[33:27] for the city of use of space on our

[33:28] experiences conducting the research

[33:30] reviewing dialogues from blogs websites

[33:33] and various academic institutions

[33:35] we believe in the kiss rule keep it

[33:37] simple super simple so we have limited

[33:39] our list to 10 guidelines

[33:41] this is done with intent as it allows

[33:44] for the people to govern themselves

[33:45] accordingly

[33:46] and it allows for the city and the

[33:49] future to impose further governance

[33:50] where it may be needed in the community

[33:53] do you want me to read these 10 real

[33:55] quick that's entirely man's like nope

[33:59] I already read the 22-page dissertation

[34:02] oh you poor thing I'm glad I missed that

[34:04] if you'll give it to Christine she can

[34:06] get it out to it and thank you again so

[34:09] much for your time thank you no thank

[34:11] you for here letting us hear you tonight

[34:13] thank you thank you anyone else I have a

[34:16] couple cards that uh will be heard at

[34:18] the time of the item but that's it for

[34:20] audience to be heard anyone else like to

[34:22] speak to the commission about something

[34:24] that's not on the agenda this evening

[34:26] not seeing anybody will move right on

[34:28] down Madam attorney will turn it over to

[34:30] you thank you Mr Mayor we have

[34:33] resolution 22-68 a resolution of the

[34:35] city Commission of the City of Eustis

[34:37] Florida approving a code enforcement

[34:39] board action to authorize the City

[34:40] attorney to foreclose on an outstanding

[34:42] code enforcement lien recorded against

[34:44] 44 sharp Circle LLC

[34:47] believe Mr Martin so I I can start off

[34:50] maybe give you some general background

[34:53] um so this case has been going on uh for

[34:57] about a year you have in your packet the

[35:00] initial case history for this case

[35:03] September 14th of 2021.

[35:06] there have been quite a few visits to

[35:10] the property by code enforcement

[35:13] um

[35:14] based on

[35:16] this particular issue is related to the

[35:20] conditions of a rental unit there over

[35:25] the past year there's been a lot of

[35:27] discussion with the property owner about

[35:29] whether the property would be renovated

[35:32] and rehabilitated or whether whether the

[35:35] property would be demolished it remains

[35:38] an outstanding issue

[35:40] and

[35:42] excuse me

[35:44] um it has as you can see from your

[35:48] information it's gone to the code board

[35:50] quite a few times

[35:52] the code board on August 8 2022

[35:57] considered moving forward with a

[36:01] foreclosure on the lien they approve

[36:05] that

[36:06] again just a little bit of background

[36:08] you we forwarded to you some

[36:11] correspondence with a representative of

[36:14] the property owner that representative

[36:16] was questioning uh due process I will

[36:21] tell you that both at the code board on

[36:24] August 8 2022 the question came up as to

[36:27] whether the code board was authorized

[36:29] based on due process to move forward

[36:32] with this and the code board attorney

[36:35] assured the code board that they were

[36:37] able to move forward with this if they

[36:40] so chose and they did move forward with

[36:43] that the question has been raised and I

[36:46] know uh Sasha has had some discussions

[36:49] with their representative I'm

[36:51] paraphrasing what Sasha and I discussed

[36:54] which is uh we feel that it is

[36:59] appropriate for the city commission to

[37:01] move forward with this if they so choose

[37:04] the prop the representative of the

[37:06] property owner has asked that it be

[37:08] continued until October 6th but that is

[37:12] completely at the discretion of the city

[37:15] commission we do have a couple people

[37:17] who have given cards who want to speak

[37:19] on this item

[37:21] code enforcement supervisor Eric Martin

[37:23] is here he has prepared

[37:27] um documentation of the notifications

[37:29] that we've done he's prepared photos of

[37:32] what we've been dealing with and so we

[37:35] are Eric is here and happy to give you

[37:37] more information and try to answer any

[37:39] questions you might have Chief Capri is

[37:42] also here and has been involved and then

[37:45] of course uh Mr Paskowski our code board

[37:48] chairs here as is Stephanie Carter who

[37:50] serves on our code board and so whether

[37:54] it's representatives of the code board

[37:55] or the City attorney or Mr Martin we are

[37:59] here to answer any questions you might

[38:01] have on what's going on in addition

[38:05] I want to make it clear we have other

[38:07] code issues out at Sharps Park but we

[38:10] are not dealing specifically with those

[38:12] tonight we are dealing with a specific

[38:14] case but we can also provide some

[38:17] background on other code enforcement

[38:18] issues unrelated to this specific case

[38:21] that we're also dealing with out there

[38:23] and so we'd be happy to try to answer

[38:25] any questions you may have

[38:27] I think we start with Derek okay Eric

[38:30] sorry okay all right Garrett yeah

[38:35] good evening Commissioners Eric Martin

[38:37] code enforcement supervisor

[38:40] so

[38:41] basically I'm just here to kind of do a

[38:44] ask an answer I do know we have some

[38:47] more residents in today's tonight's

[38:49] audience that did not fill out a card so

[38:52] you know I guess when they come in I

[38:54] guess I can just before they leave fill

[38:56] one out is that how it would work we um

[39:00] I think I think we we can just call them

[39:02] up as long as they State their name

[39:05] um that that's fine they don't have to

[39:06] fill out a card so the first thing I did

[39:09] this morning when in preparation for

[39:11] tonight I the park obtained ownership of

[39:15] the property in February 2019. since

[39:19] then there have been 18 total code

[39:21] violations at that location

[39:24] but for numerous violations and we can

[39:27] go into the details if you if you wish

[39:29] us to but the item today is a

[39:33] three-sharp circle

[39:51] let me pull that one out I've got a

[39:56] lunch

[40:07] so basically on September 14 2021 the

[40:11] city received a code enforcement or a

[40:14] lieutenant complaint about the

[40:15] conditions of this mobile home and

[40:18] dwelling unit when we went in and

[40:20] inspected it we saw some very severe

[40:23] electrical hazards

[40:25] here like in picture two they had an

[40:29] extension cord on a plug outlet and it

[40:31] ran all the way through it was run all

[40:33] the way through the front porch

[40:34] underneath the mobile home and into an

[40:37] outlet inside the mobile home and it was

[40:39] running power or running a light or of

[40:41] some sort on the on the patio there were

[40:44] issues with the stairs not being secure

[40:46] not being centered on the doorways

[40:49] um the main issue was there was a water

[40:51] leak in the toilet room and you'll see

[40:54] here in picture eight that is an actual

[40:57] electrical wire coming down

[40:59] and as you see here in picture nine it

[41:02] is hot

[41:03] so there was a water leak so the

[41:05] toilet's leaking water all over the

[41:06] floor there's no um

[41:09] impervious surface in that bathroom it

[41:12] was just pretty much hot-nosed pieces of

[41:14] plywood

[41:15] and anyone that has sitting on that

[41:18] toilet you know your water's leaking

[41:22] around you you've got live wires within

[41:24] Arms Reach of you so we were really

[41:27] concerned with the life safety of the

[41:30] tenant at that point

[41:31] so we here's showing just some water

[41:34] damage some some surface damages

[41:38] uh in this in this and you know looks

[41:40] like an old roof leak

[41:42] um so throughout the mobile home we we

[41:44] continue to find more electrical hazards

[41:47] throughout

[41:50] so this was inside a cabinet this one

[41:52] was in over the stove this was over the

[41:56] uh

[41:57] there was one over the coffee maker

[41:59] there were two exposed electrical wires

[42:02] on the uh in the living room

[42:07] there was a plug outlet they had

[42:10] completely come dislodged and was laying

[42:11] inside the wall

[42:13] and there were other electrical

[42:15] violations that don't meet the National

[42:17] Electric Code

[42:18] so when I notified the building official

[42:20] loved the conditions he authorized Duke

[42:23] Energy to terminate the power on that

[42:26] dwelling unit immediately that day

[42:28] so it's been off ever since

[42:31] um

[42:31] and this is owned by that's owned by

[42:34] sharks mobile home park okay that that

[42:37] was thank you

[42:40] Eric Were you invited in by the the yes

[42:43] the tenants signed a consent to allow us

[42:47] to to go in and inspect her dwelling

[42:50] um we don't the city has never taken

[42:52] lightly condemning and owner-occupied

[42:55] residential dwelling the last thing we

[42:57] want to do is put someone out on the

[42:59] street but in this case there was there

[43:01] was no avoidance

[43:03] so

[43:04] um these pictures here show where

[43:07] the property owner eventually did come

[43:09] in and get a repair permit

[43:11] and they started fixing the bathroom

[43:13] and then all works seized the building

[43:17] official had determined that the scope

[43:19] of work in the permit was not adequate

[43:21] to bring the mobile home up to code

[43:24] okay I'm sorry I thought I I am but go

[43:27] ahead and finish

[43:28] um

[43:29] so

[43:31] the property owner decided instead of

[43:34] bringing it up to code they decided they

[43:35] were going to demolish it well that's

[43:37] been ongoing for eight or more months uh

[43:42] so

[43:43] without digging into my dig deep into my

[43:47] notes I do know there's a pending

[43:48] demolition permit on file

[43:51] to take you know three and unit five out

[43:54] so there were concerns when the park

[43:56] manager came and testified in August

[43:59] they were concerned about the type

[44:01] proximity and working around the

[44:04] neighbor's fence asking them if they

[44:06] could take it down so they could get

[44:07] equipment in it it sounds to me like

[44:09] they've just decided to take unit five

[44:11] out so they can get to unit 3 and take

[44:13] it out which is definitely that's two

[44:16] for one

[44:17] so that's that is pending I believe the

[44:21] only thing they're waiting on is the

[44:22] utility disconnects but I don't know why

[44:24] that's taking so long question for you

[44:28] um you had correspondence with the owner

[44:31] correct

[44:32] I spoke to the property manager

[44:36] personally I don't believe I've spoken

[44:38] to the property owner about this

[44:40] particular case

[44:42] I haven't spoken to the property owner

[44:44] probably since 2020.

[44:46] um most of our most of our

[44:48] correspondence is directly with the

[44:50] property man so this shouldn't come as a

[44:52] surprise to them

[44:54] no at least headquarters or you know

[44:58] that this is a problem right okay so and

[45:02] you sent

[45:04] letter after letter getting into getting

[45:07] to it now okay good all right I will say

[45:11] this because looking at the email

[45:12] correspondence then I looked through all

[45:14] this all of this stuff

[45:17] um the actually owner

[45:19] I think it's been changed twice now said

[45:21] here's the new representative send

[45:22] everything to them send everything to

[45:24] them so he's aware yeah yeah right and

[45:28] now he's shoving it off on exactly

[45:30] somebody else two other people

[45:34] so on September 23rd we pretty much just

[45:38] basically sent out a correction notice

[45:40] that had a list of a full list of the

[45:42] diff all the deficiencies

[45:44] um requiring that they correct them by

[45:46] October 25th 2021.

[45:50] when they failed to do so we sent out a

[45:53] formal notice of violation slash hearing

[45:55] on November 4th requiring compliance

[46:00] with the housing code by December 6 2021

[46:04] or there be a code enforcement Board

[46:06] hearing on December 13th

[46:08] so went to the code enforcement board

[46:11] and here is I've got copies of the

[46:14] notices the so the thing is

[46:17] the the

[46:19] address listed in Lake County

[46:22] those those notices were being returned

[46:24] under undeliverable as addressed so we

[46:26] also started mailing them to registered

[46:28] agent which is Hansel Rodriguez so the

[46:31] one that we mailed to Hansel Rodriguez

[46:34] it was delivered on November 6. at his

[46:37] office

[46:37] we also posted a copy of that notice of

[46:40] violation on the manager's door on the

[46:43] same day

[46:44] is their own site yes it's uh it's

[46:48] addressed 44 sharp Circle actually it's

[46:50] right it's the building right next to

[46:52] where if you drive in you got your

[46:53] mailboxes and and so forth is right next

[46:56] to the two-story kind of Warehouse

[46:59] uh so on December 13th 2021 the code

[47:03] enforcement board issued an order of

[47:04] enforcement for acquiring compliance by

[47:10] January 12 2022 or a fine of 250 per day

[47:14] of occurrence would be imposed

[47:16] so that deadline expired

[47:19] on January 28th 2022 the city issued a

[47:24] notice of non-compliance and I noticed a

[47:26] hearing for assessment of fine

[47:29] so that was held on February 14 2022

[47:34] where the code enforcement board

[47:35] officially issued the order imposing

[47:38] fine and that was recorded in public

[47:40] record on April 13 2022. in every

[47:43] correspondent set that we send we tell

[47:46] them they have the opportunity to come

[47:47] before the code enforcement board

[47:49] correct

[47:50] yes that's what that's what the notice

[47:52] and hearing is for okay and have they

[47:54] ever

[47:55] the um

[47:57] yes they have and let me get to the

[47:59] staff report

[48:02] I believe

[48:16] okay on the first hearing that was held

[48:18] on December 13th there was no

[48:20] representative the tenant the tenant

[48:22] showed up but the no representative from

[48:24] 44 Sharps LLC

[48:26] and then on

[48:34] I think the property manager did attend

[48:36] this one I don't have it into my note

[48:38] hold on yeah I do

[48:44] can I oh that's a good question real

[48:47] quick actually yes ma'am are we we're

[48:49] closing number three sharp Circle or

[48:52] number 44. no it's it's the lien is

[48:56] against the entire property it's all one

[48:58] product it's all one property it's the

[49:00] name of the corporate the LLC is 44

[49:02] Sharps Circle LLC

[49:07] thank you Eric that's it

[49:11] you know I know you're looking for that

[49:13] but what I'm trying to get is

[49:16] they've known from the beginning that

[49:19] there were deficiencies yes you

[49:20] corresponded with them they've gone in

[49:23] and they attempted to make some repairs

[49:27] right they as you see they saved off the

[49:30] um if you I didn't point it out because

[49:32] I don't believe I don't think I

[49:35] So within two days of us being in there

[49:38] they did get an electrician and they

[49:40] saved off all the wiring put them in

[49:42] metal boxes as you see in these photos

[49:45] well

[49:46] some of these photos here but so all the

[49:48] exposed wires the that plug outlet was

[49:51] not fixed but any of the exposed wires

[49:53] are hanging down they did put in metal

[49:56] boxes and cap them off

[50:00] so the issues

[50:03] they should have known

[50:05] with continued correspondence and

[50:08] communication with you right that all of

[50:10] the issues hadn't been taken care of

[50:12] correct correct so it should come as no

[50:15] surprise to anyone

[50:18] that the City of Eustis code enforcement

[50:21] board meant business right okay all

[50:23] right

[50:24] is there more

[50:26] bold I didn't witness any

[50:29] some of it looks kind of dark like that

[50:31] might be how long and and you might not

[50:34] know this and I don't know if anybody

[50:35] who lived in this unit is anybody here

[50:37] that lived in this unit

[50:39] only Donna Manning she lived in it she

[50:41] was the complainant but before that I

[50:44] don't know who owned it or how long did

[50:46] you live like this man you can't do that

[50:48] oh no I can't all right I just wondered

[50:50] how long this has been do you know how

[50:51] long this has been going on

[50:53] all I know is the date that we receive

[50:55] the complaint okay

[50:57] I can tell you that Donna Manning has

[50:58] filled out a card to speak there you go

[51:00] that's what all I knew she did that's

[51:02] why and I'm sorry when she stands up you

[51:04] can do it okay

[51:13] and the concern that

[51:15] um

[51:17] well the issue that

[51:19] they're trying to raise is they didn't

[51:21] get noticed they didn't have enough

[51:23] notice yes they're raising the concern

[51:26] that they didn't get notice about the

[51:28] Foreclosure hearing

[51:30] but the Florida Statutes doesn't require

[51:33] any notification for the Foreclosure it

[51:36] just simply states that the code enforce

[51:38] the after an order is imposed the city

[51:42] can record that in public record as a

[51:44] lien against the property and after 90

[51:47] days the code enforcement board can

[51:49] authorize a City attorney to foreclose

[51:51] on the unpaid lien

[51:53] okay and so all the notification

[51:55] requirements start at the beginning we

[51:57] do notice of uh we do requires it's like

[52:01] if when a code enforcement officer

[52:02] identifies a violation we're required by

[52:04] a statute to notify the property owner

[52:07] of the violation and give them a

[52:08] reasonable time to correct it and if

[52:10] they don't then we schedule a hearing

[52:12] and that's when we're we're required to

[52:15] send out the certified notices return

[52:17] receipt postings hand delivery any way

[52:21] you can try to get get notice out to the

[52:24] property owner

[52:25] and then that's for the first hearing

[52:28] now this there's no there's no

[52:30] requirement for a second Hearing in

[52:32] chapter 162 but we do a second hearing

[52:36] for notice of non-compliance for due

[52:39] process reasons I think it's to comply

[52:40] with Florida Statutes 219 is that the

[52:43] due process section yes and it's also

[52:45] chapter 162. well yes

[52:48] um

[52:49] so

[52:52] then we have that hearing and that's

[52:54] pretty much the last hearing until we

[52:57] bring it back to the code enforcement

[52:58] board for consideration of foreclosure

[53:00] and traditionally we've never given

[53:02] notice for that

[53:04] and and

[53:07] our correspondence with them they know

[53:10] that foreclosure is going to be a

[53:13] possibility correct so in the notice of

[53:17] non-compliance

[53:19] that was issued

[53:24] on January 28th

[53:26] all our letters go out with a cover

[53:28] letter and here it says to stop accrual

[53:31] of the daily fine the property owner

[53:33] must the property must be brought into

[53:35] compliance if compliance is not met and

[53:37] the accrued fine is not paid within

[53:39] three months of the date of the

[53:40] recording the order of the recording of the order imposing fine the

[53:46] property may be subject to foreclosure

[53:48] proceedings and sold to enforce the lean

[53:50] January 28th of this year yes sir okay

[53:56] and the

[53:57] discovered by the statue everything's

[53:59] yes and I did speak to Mr Arbiter

[54:01] yesterday about this um and statutorily

[54:04] we've complied with everything that

[54:06] we're required to do we're not required

[54:07] to provide additional notice uh he's

[54:09] asking for something that is in excess

[54:11] of what we're required to provide the

[54:14] property owner so as far as due process

[54:16] is concerned we're covered now of course

[54:18] it's this is up to the commission it's

[54:20] completely discretionary if you wanted

[54:22] to push this off to the next meeting

[54:24] because this is what he's asked for

[54:25] however it's not an opportunity for him

[54:26] to challenge the findings of the code

[54:28] enforcement board that's already been

[54:29] determined and that was part of the

[54:31] order that was recorded and is the lien

[54:33] against the property simply it would I

[54:37] guess be an opportunity just to try to

[54:38] avoid the expense of the Foreclosure

[54:41] should they somehow comply in the future

[54:45] I am you know it's it surprises me that

[54:49] uh you know we give them all this time

[54:51] to to fix it and they don't do anything

[54:54] but they want us they want us to give

[54:56] them more time to do

[54:58] yeah yeah I'm not right and the attorney

[55:00] did attend the August 8th uh code

[55:03] enforcement Board hearing there were

[55:05] some other items on the agenda for Sharp

[55:08] Circle that day so their attorney was

[55:10] present he asked the board for

[55:13] um continuance before they considered

[55:16] doing a motion for foreclosure which the

[55:18] code enforcement board denied his

[55:20] request so you said there's 18 current

[55:23] there's eight no there have been 18

[55:24] violations

[55:26] since February

[55:28] 2019 when occurring okay so right now

[55:33] um I also put some

[55:36] other open and unresolved violations so

[55:40] there's a minimum housing code violation

[55:42] against unit number 26. there's a

[55:45] violation for an unsafe power pole and

[55:48] there's an active code violation for the

[55:50] condition of the roads is that powerful

[55:52] still leaning today I'm sorry is that

[55:54] power pole still leaning uh it's it's

[55:57] still propped up they had not they have

[55:59] not fixed and we walked that property

[56:01] July 1st and we know we told them so

[56:04] what happened on July 1st we had a storm

[56:07] come through the night after we walked

[56:09] through it and the power pole that was

[56:11] right next to the the unit that is at

[56:15] the main entrance that was blown over

[56:17] during the storm

[56:19] so they fixed that one immediately I

[56:22] drove through on July 5th

[56:24] and I'm actually there it is right thank

[56:28] you yeah

[56:29] so on July 8th when I'm driving by I see

[56:32] this 2x4 propping up this power pole and

[56:35] I'm thinking what's going on here so I

[56:36] get out and I touch it and just from

[56:39] touching it almost fell over so that's

[56:42] what I called the building inspector out

[56:43] I had him take a look at it and I have

[56:45] to resist a life safety issue and he

[56:47] says absolutely so

[56:50] this is steel like this yes yes

[56:54] been that way since July 8th so there's

[56:57] been a lien recorded on that one

[56:59] recently

[57:00] for

[57:05] so that's 528. here Eric this this is a

[57:09] public safety and a health hazard and

[57:12] the attorney has told us that we have

[57:15] that I can ask for this place to be

[57:17] totally shut down and I'm willing to

[57:19] sign in order to shut it down if they

[57:21] can't get it together right it's

[57:23] absolutely ridiculous

[57:26] that we're allowing this to go on that

[57:28] we're allowing our citizens to live like

[57:30] this

[57:31] so if this isn't done quickly I will

[57:35] sign an order to shut the place down now

[57:37] we're going to find places for people to

[57:39] live yes but this is absolutely

[57:40] ridiculous and for an attorney to stand

[57:43] in here

[57:44] or to even contact our attorneys and ask

[57:46] for a delay on this is absolutely

[57:49] asinine I apologize for that but it's

[57:52] crazy it's gone on too long

[57:54] so what I what I have to say is you know

[57:58] at this point at this point

[58:03] the city knows

[58:05] how bad this place is and if something

[58:08] doesn't happen right away the city uh

[58:10] Bears some of the liability so I think

[58:13] we need to socialize we're just with

[58:16] code enforcement with the chief with the

[58:18] city manager it smells of mold and

[58:20] mildew it smells of raw sewage and it's

[58:24] not the resident's fault it is an owner

[58:27] that is doesn't live here he doesn't

[58:30] care about these people all he cares

[58:32] about is collecting money at every month

[58:35] from them

[58:37] and and let one of them be late

[58:42] oh 10 days and they're looking to be

[58:44] evicted not only that we're just very

[58:46] blessed no one has been hurt or died

[58:48] yeah exactly and so we need to do

[58:50] something before it does happen uh

[58:52] cricket police chief real quick I'll

[58:54] keep it brief this is probably the

[58:55] number one problem right now in the City

[58:58] of Eustis it is it is disgusting it is

[59:01] horrible that residents have to live

[59:03] like that this guy's a bully I talked to

[59:05] a resident yesterday that he evicted a

[59:08] lot of issues and he's all about he's a

[59:10] typical slumlord greed Merchant and he

[59:13] has a sense of entitlement and he sits

[59:15] back down in Miami or South Florida

[59:16] laughing at us while he so we this is I

[59:19] got dep coming to work with us the State

[59:21] Department of Environmental Protection

[59:22] we're going to go after this the only

[59:24] thing this guy's gonna understand is

[59:25] when you hit him in a pocketbook and and

[59:27] that's what we have to do we're not

[59:28] going to let up this is our number one

[59:29] priority what we're doing so uh it's

[59:32] very it's very bad out there and I don't

[59:33] want to see these poor residents have to

[59:35] deal with that he jacked all their rents

[59:37] up almost doubled their rents because

[59:39] what's going on in the country people

[59:40] like talk he doubled their rents the

[59:42] park manager

[59:43] you can't even talk to her she's nasty

[59:46] she's rude she's abrasive

[59:48] and uh she didn't want to deal with me

[59:50] so but smart manager live on no she

[59:54] doesn't oh she doesn't oh I think she

[59:56] should have to she was at the cold board

[59:57] with her attorney and all this guy's

[59:59] trying to do is hire attorneys to muddy

[1:00:01] the waters and and do all that but the

[1:00:03] bottom line is it's not going to stop us

[1:00:06] what can we do we're coming after him so

[1:00:08] we're coming after him with the steak

[1:00:09] and everything together

[1:00:13] Mr chairman if you have anything to add

[1:00:15] from the code enforcement side

[1:00:18] so um hold on one second Alan do you

[1:00:22] have anything from your side you're fine

[1:00:23] then for the record Alan Paskowski chair

[1:00:26] of the code enforcement board I've been

[1:00:28] on the board for seven years where do

[1:00:30] you want me to start on 44 sharp Circle

[1:00:33] I've we've had numerous hearings for

[1:00:36] residents who are victims of this

[1:00:39] property in the abuseful management

[1:00:41] non-concern or care for their health

[1:00:44] welfare or safety

[1:00:45] we have done everything that we can

[1:00:48] within the law

[1:00:50] provided them ample opportunity to

[1:00:53] correct situations

[1:00:56] poll that posed an eminent danger we

[1:01:00] ordered it to be fixed within two days I

[1:01:03] believe there one or two days

[1:01:05] and the notice was hand delivered to the

[1:01:08] property right after the code

[1:01:09] enforcement board's ruling

[1:01:12] at the last code enforcement board they

[1:01:14] brought an attorney with a recorder that

[1:01:17] would challenge the code enforcement

[1:01:18] board with respect to not respecting due

[1:01:22] process

[1:01:24] we have never

[1:01:26] on any occasion not given anybody who

[1:01:29] appears in front of the code enforcement

[1:01:31] board due process we have obtained and

[1:01:34] listened to numerous complaints by

[1:01:38] residents of the property who are forced

[1:01:41] to live in property like this who are

[1:01:43] then punitively dealt with because

[1:01:47] they've complained to the city because

[1:01:49] our board has taken action against them

[1:01:51] and the manager has personally appeared

[1:01:54] the new property manager they've had

[1:01:55] several new property managers appeared

[1:01:58] at the last at least two that I'm aware

[1:02:00] of and uh

[1:02:02] mayor Holland I couldn't agree with you

[1:02:04] more

[1:02:05] this is not what the City of Eustis or

[1:02:08] its residents whether they're renters or

[1:02:10] property owners deserve or should be

[1:02:13] subjected to

[1:02:14] answer any questions if you have any do

[1:02:16] you have a question and I don't know if

[1:02:17] you know this off the top of your head

[1:02:19] how many if if we did

[1:02:22] the shutdown how many people will be

[1:02:25] displaced I really couldn't answer that

[1:02:28] Miss God

[1:02:32] I really don't know how many residents

[1:02:40] the mobile home park has we could go

[1:02:43] through and count the number of units

[1:02:46] but as far as how many would be

[1:02:48] displaced away for me to tell you well

[1:02:50] we um I I do know there's 119 pads out

[1:02:54] there I don't know if every pad has a

[1:02:56] unit on it but it's 119. that's about

[1:02:59] there's only maybe three pads

[1:03:02] okay one another thing if I may add okay

[1:03:05] I know the commission is aware of this

[1:03:07] but as I understand it the uh the reason

[1:03:12] that they're fighting us is because once

[1:03:15] a trailer is condemned the plane is

[1:03:18] placed against it and we order it to be

[1:03:21] demolished it cannot be replaced because

[1:03:23] they are over their density

[1:03:26] and so that's one of the big issues that

[1:03:29] their attorney and others have tried to

[1:03:31] confront the code enforcement board with

[1:03:33] is because once we order a unit that is

[1:03:37] as disgusting as those you've seen to be

[1:03:40] knocked down they cannot replace it so

[1:03:42] that's a loss of income obviously as she

[1:03:44] said it's

[1:03:47] when I spoke to the day that we were out

[1:03:50] there and I was speaking to miss Morales

[1:03:52] and I was just brought up the condition

[1:03:55] around some of the parks why the park

[1:03:57] management isn't making sure making sure

[1:03:59] it's residents are keeping the area

[1:04:00] around their mobile homes clean and

[1:04:02] sanitary and she told me that's a city's

[1:04:04] job

[1:04:06] um so how many how many um

[1:04:10] how many of these trailers have you been invited into oh

[1:04:15] just uh just number three and number six

[1:04:18] I mean it's number three and number 26.

[1:04:20] is it possible to do and I don't know if

[1:04:22] this is something we want to look at

[1:04:23] doing is it possible to do like a little

[1:04:26] town hall meeting

[1:04:27] with them with just Sharp's Park to talk

[1:04:31] to them and to possibly get into all of

[1:04:34] these units well that's something that I

[1:04:36] want that's one of the focuses that

[1:04:37] we're going to have I sent on July 5th I

[1:04:41] sent Miss Morales an email asking for a

[1:04:43] list of all of all the park owners so I

[1:04:47] could determine which which mobile homes

[1:04:49] are privately owned and which ones the

[1:04:51] park owns yes and I didn't receive

[1:04:54] anything when I when I'd hand delivered

[1:04:55] that life notice of Life Safety

[1:04:57] violation I asked her about it and she

[1:04:59] pretty much told me that I'm going to

[1:05:00] have to go to the vice president or you

[1:05:04] know the

[1:05:05] she it was not within her authority to

[1:05:07] provide that information I would have to

[1:05:09] go to the property owner Hansel

[1:05:11] Rodriguez or the the director of

[1:05:13] operations to to get it

[1:05:17] you can't because it's all in the land

[1:05:19] industry and you can't it's not like

[1:05:21] real property a mobile home is

[1:05:24] um defined under State Statute as a

[1:05:26] vehicle that's licensed through the

[1:05:28] Department of Motor Vehicles so my

[1:05:30] office

[1:05:31] no they don't on the land so my office

[1:05:34] can't go you know for real property we

[1:05:36] can go to the Lake County Property

[1:05:38] Appraisers website

[1:05:40] search it find who the owner of record

[1:05:42] is and send notice out to them well for

[1:05:45] mobile for mobile homes we don't have we

[1:05:47] don't have that capability we don't

[1:05:48] there's no way for us to find you know

[1:05:50] we could run the tag but I bet half the tags in that mobile home are

[1:05:54] expired yeah it seems like we have a

[1:05:56] good representative group tonight we

[1:05:58] should be able to give us some feedback

[1:05:59] yeah and be able to get the word out to

[1:06:01] everyone else yeah yeah

[1:06:03] I would I I do want to ask um so we have two types of units in here we

[1:06:08] have units that are owned by the

[1:06:10] occupants and then we have units that

[1:06:12] are owned by the park that they rent out

[1:06:14] if we were to take code enforcement

[1:06:16] action against a unit that is owner

[1:06:18] occupied is it the owner occupant that

[1:06:21] is being cited or is it the property

[1:06:24] owner that's under Florida statute the

[1:06:26] city cannot

[1:06:28] um impose fines against a park owner for

[1:06:30] a violation that's created by a mobile

[1:06:32] home owner

[1:06:34] so it would be against the mobile

[1:06:35] homeowner yes okay but we don't know how

[1:06:39] many

[1:06:40] well like I'm sorry we don't know how

[1:06:43] many 44.

[1:06:46] structure is crumbling and if the

[1:06:49] infrastructure is what's causing the

[1:06:51] problem of the of the mobile home

[1:06:53] planner we can't hold them so like the

[1:06:56] chief was talking about the odor I think

[1:06:58] everyone picked it up picked up on it um

[1:07:01] when they when they walk through so

[1:07:03] there is near 134 they had to do a

[1:07:07] massive uh sewer line repair and they

[1:07:09] had to bypass a bunch and they cut a big

[1:07:11] trench and ran a hundred and something

[1:07:13] feet of or relocated so right where the

[1:07:16] lift station is all of that those lines

[1:07:20] come into a manhole and if you stand

[1:07:22] right next to the

[1:07:24] in the carport right next to it you can

[1:07:27] smell the odor of sewage I mean it's

[1:07:28] very prominent I asked the

[1:07:31] um I asked the property manager could

[1:07:33] you please get a plumber out here and

[1:07:35] find out why there's such an odor coming

[1:07:38] out of this and she says oh we'll look

[1:07:40] into it but they never follow there's a

[1:07:42] lot of flooding in there too every time

[1:07:44] it rains that's that's a cricket police

[1:07:46] chief that's where dep is going to come

[1:07:47] in with the state for those those uh

[1:07:49] human waste feces there's feces coming

[1:07:51] up out of the ground out of pipes and

[1:07:53] when when the state comes in and shuts

[1:07:56] them down that's you know that's what's

[1:07:57] gonna it's gonna take that and the

[1:07:59] residents organizing yeah and and uh not

[1:08:02] tolerating this type of stuff

[1:08:04] thank you let's let's do this let's go

[1:08:07] ahead and hear from a few residents what

[1:08:08] I'm going to ask is if you try if you

[1:08:10] come up we want to hear you I think you

[1:08:13] know where we are as a commission at

[1:08:15] this point try not to repeat yourselves

[1:08:17] we do have a good deal of stuff to go we

[1:08:20] care believe me uh if if I could ask if I really wanted to push the issue I'd

[1:08:26] have the attorney do something tonight

[1:08:28] to where I'd close the place down but

[1:08:31] then it's going to displace every one of

[1:08:33] you and and I can't do that I I've got

[1:08:36] to know that you all are safe and you

[1:08:37] have a place to live

[1:08:39] um but

[1:08:40] um let's hear from a few of you Tom will

[1:08:43] call you up in just a minute

[1:08:46] um like I said please just try not to

[1:08:48] repeat too much of what you're what

[1:08:49] trivia is saying Tom go ahead all right

[1:08:52] I've got a card from Donna Manning

[1:08:55] Donna you knew you would be first

[1:08:57] [Laughter]

[1:09:06] hi I'm Donna Manning and I am the tenant

[1:09:09] from 3 and 26.

[1:09:11] so um

[1:09:13] I moved in there on May 1st of 2021.

[1:09:18] I was promised the bathroom would be

[1:09:20] renovated within two to three weeks

[1:09:23] I gave them until August 4th I contacted

[1:09:26] the owner at that time Hansel Rodriguez

[1:09:28] advising him that if something wasn't

[1:09:31] done I was going to be forced to file

[1:09:33] complaint with code enforcement I was

[1:09:35] completely ignored by him

[1:09:37] another gentleman named Dave cozy which

[1:09:39] is the

[1:09:41] vice president operations or something

[1:09:42] at that time

[1:09:44] so then I went ahead and filed the

[1:09:45] complaint I had no idea

[1:09:48] the amount of danger that I was in until

[1:09:49] Eric came out

[1:09:51] I was lied to

[1:09:53] about the wires from the property

[1:09:56] manager she says oh no those are dead

[1:09:57] wires don't worry about it

[1:09:59] I couldn't touch those wires my guests

[1:10:02] could have touched those wires and in

[1:10:03] fact one of the park employees at that

[1:10:06] time came down and went to cut the one

[1:10:09] down that you've seen in the bathroom

[1:10:10] hanging to the floor and it was like the

[1:10:12] Fourth of July

[1:10:13] because she

[1:10:15] the park manager told us that they

[1:10:17] weren't alive she lied she could have

[1:10:19] got somebody killed

[1:10:21] you how many how many uh

[1:10:24] kids are in the in the uh in the trailer

[1:10:28] park how many how many kids children

[1:10:30] there's really not many children in

[1:10:32] there it's supposed to be a 55 and older

[1:10:34] okay now how many visit

[1:10:36] and have you ever had any kids to visit

[1:10:38] yours I have um a good friend of mine

[1:10:41] that has brought his daughter there a

[1:10:42] couple of times she was five at the time

[1:10:45] okay yeah all right okay question you you you don't have dance if you want

[1:10:49] to how much is your rent now

[1:10:52] you would have track okay I started out

[1:10:54] at number three the rental agreement was

[1:10:57] 541 or 551 I'm sorry

[1:11:01] um when it got condemned they moved me

[1:11:03] into 20s they didn't move me into 26 I

[1:11:05] moved myself they did nothing for me

[1:11:09] um and then they told me it was 5 41.

[1:11:13] the property manager the current

[1:11:14] property manager filed an eviction

[1:11:16] against me on the 12th of September

[1:11:19] stating that my monthly rent is 524.

[1:11:23] it was dismissed by the judge because

[1:11:26] it included somebody else's paperwork so

[1:11:29] the judges missed it she went and

[1:11:31] refiled it

[1:11:32] the following week following Monday now

[1:11:34] it's 5 42 so she doesn't even know so

[1:11:36] how do I know what my rent is Hispanic

[1:11:39] what does that include

[1:11:41] what what does your rent include it's

[1:11:43] supposed they do pay the electric okay

[1:11:46] um and it's supposed to include Lawn

[1:11:48] Care my grass right now is

[1:11:50] I know what about water you pay your own

[1:11:54] water or what

[1:11:55] um no yeah we pay 67 a month water

[1:11:57] that's the base rents like 475 and then

[1:12:00] 67 water do you pay 67 to the city or to

[1:12:04] the yeah we pay it all to the park you

[1:12:07] pay it to the park it's it's a Master

[1:12:09] Meter so one meter

[1:12:11] um 67 what do you pay

[1:12:13] 60

[1:12:15] 67. 67 a month there's 119 units in

[1:12:20] there but

[1:12:21] probably I'm going to say at least 10 to

[1:12:23] 12 of them are

[1:12:25] dumps

[1:12:27] they're abandoned they're rat infested

[1:12:29] causing other tenants to have rats

[1:12:44] it's on the other side of the street

[1:12:55] yeah she's she's one of the previous

[1:12:57] managers there and when she was the

[1:12:59] manager there somebody came down from

[1:13:01] either Jacksonville or Gainesville or

[1:13:03] something some inspectors 26 sharp

[1:13:06] Circle and 209 sharp Circle have no VIN

[1:13:09] number on them they're not titled

[1:13:11] and they can never be sold

[1:13:15] but I I'm thinking that maybe because

[1:13:17] they're on their property they have the

[1:13:19] right to rent them I don't know that I

[1:13:20] don't know the laws

[1:13:23] um

[1:13:25] so I'm not sure how that works but those

[1:13:27] are the only two rentals and I did

[1:13:28] receive

[1:13:29] a letter from their attorney Mr Arbiter

[1:13:33] on um the well

[1:13:35] I about a prohibitive practice case

[1:13:37] against them they turned my electric off

[1:13:39] the week of Christmas last year

[1:13:41] the the previous management yeah no

[1:13:43] warning nothing 40 degrees at night no

[1:13:46] heat nothing

[1:13:48] so I found a prohibited practice case

[1:13:49] against them and I settled out of court

[1:13:51] with them

[1:13:53] three days later I got a letter in the

[1:13:55] mail saying we are no longer renting it

[1:13:57] after September 30th you need to be out

[1:13:59] on September 30th

[1:14:01] after all they've put me through and now

[1:14:02] they throw him out on the street because

[1:14:04] all of a sudden it's not September 30th

[1:14:07] of this month that you've yes ma'am

[1:14:09] you're going to be evicted I got it I

[1:14:10] was posted on my door today from the

[1:14:12] sheriffs

[1:14:13] I have a question

[1:14:16] um

[1:14:19] is an entity that does not have a water

[1:14:22] service let's just say like you know we

[1:14:24] have our own water and we pay when

[1:14:26] they're collecting are legally is the

[1:14:29] park allowed to make money

[1:14:31] off of their water

[1:14:33] I'd have to check um normally they

[1:14:35] charge what what the actual expense is

[1:14:38] um there might be a minor fee that they

[1:14:40] can charge for administration normally

[1:14:41] but I don't know about making money

[1:14:43] that's not something

[1:14:45] yeah every Public Services I can double

[1:14:47] check

[1:14:48] we have one meter how do you yeah yeah

[1:14:51] every time I pay 67 dollars

[1:14:54] let's just say they have one meter and

[1:14:57] the bill is you know 500 a month I'm just using it

[1:15:02] for for round numbers

[1:15:03] for whatever you you

[1:15:06] to my knowledge I I don't think they're

[1:15:08] allowed to make money it doesn't sound

[1:15:10] like they should no it's again I

[1:15:13] understand your administration fee but

[1:15:14] you know what exactly yes you know where

[1:15:16] I'm going with that yeah a lot of that

[1:15:17] does cover a common areas where if they

[1:15:19] have Landscaping I'm not sure what the

[1:15:21] circumstances are but obviously the

[1:15:24] charge could include common areas as

[1:15:26] well which may not be just for the unit

[1:15:27] but it's typically something that is

[1:15:29] Administrative do you all have

[1:15:31] irrigation

[1:15:43] if there is an administration fee I'd

[1:15:45] like to know exactly what that entails

[1:15:47] you know truthfully what I think we need

[1:15:49] to do and I'm not trying to cut any of

[1:15:52] you off we're dealing with just the

[1:15:54] foreclosure on this right now we we need

[1:15:57] to have a community meeting

[1:16:00] um and and let's do it that way I'm not

[1:16:02] trying to stop any of you from talking

[1:16:04] tonight but I think what we need to do

[1:16:07] is just go ahead and deal with what's in

[1:16:09] front of us

[1:16:11] um I think we can get ourselves into a

[1:16:12] lot of trouble if we don't just deal

[1:16:14] with this right now

[1:16:16] um and then get with we'll get with Eric

[1:16:18] and we'll come out we'll post a notice

[1:16:20] of when we can all get back together and

[1:16:23] to make it easier on you all we might

[1:16:25] just try to have it maybe at the Chamber

[1:16:27] of Commerce building in the back room

[1:16:30] um and have an open meeting where you

[1:16:32] all can come as um uh residents to talk

[1:16:36] to us I've got one question before I let

[1:16:38] anybody sit down is is the manager of

[1:16:41] the park here tonight is the attorney

[1:16:43] here tonight or is there a

[1:16:45] representative from the owner here

[1:16:46] tonight yeah

[1:16:48] answers a lot of my questions he did Mr

[1:16:51] Arbiter stated that he had a conflict

[1:16:52] because he was just alerted as far as

[1:16:55] today's tonight's meeting

[1:16:57] um and he is in Davie so he would have

[1:16:59] to travel about four hours to be here

[1:17:01] tonight so

[1:17:03] um

[1:17:04] he has he has a manager that represents

[1:17:07] them that could have been here as well

[1:17:08] so I just wanted to be clear I

[1:17:11] appreciate that the only problem with

[1:17:12] that is because these tenants have

[1:17:15] watched me be retaliated against for 18

[1:17:17] months now on that part they're afraid because if you speak up

[1:17:21] you get evicted

[1:17:25] I just want to let everyone know I put a

[1:17:28] stack of my business cards on the table

[1:17:29] by the front door so as you're going out

[1:17:31] if you would like one grab it

[1:17:36] you're gonna have to come up to do it

[1:17:38] and I did want to answer somebody's

[1:17:40] question and ask if there was mold in

[1:17:42] the unit yes there was my cat passed

[1:17:43] away from it and now now as you can see

[1:17:46] I'm having breathing problems so I'm

[1:17:47] like yes

[1:17:49] your name please guys I just want to uh

[1:17:53] Carlos

[1:17:56] um I've only been there for a few short

[1:17:58] months

[1:17:59] um I actually own and bought the trailer

[1:18:02] with everything I had

[1:18:05] uh because I was living in a hotel so I

[1:18:07] had no choice

[1:18:09] um I don't have a lease I don't know who

[1:18:12] else has the leash but I don't have a

[1:18:13] lease

[1:18:15] I don't I don't have a lease and they

[1:18:17] have changed my rent every single month

[1:18:19] since I've been there

[1:18:23] I just want to let everybody know that I

[1:18:25] don't have a lease

[1:18:27] all right

[1:18:30] I don't I don't know what my rights are

[1:18:32] without Elise

[1:18:34] um and one more thing Lake Shore Drive

[1:18:38] sir if you could please

[1:18:40] 30 miles an hour without the remote

[1:18:44] it's crazy it's crazy sure so I'm just

[1:18:48] going to smash right through my my place

[1:18:50] I just wanted to make that I don't have

[1:18:52] a lease thank you well as far as Elise

[1:18:54] is concerned you can't have a motion

[1:18:56] month please you're not you're not

[1:18:57] required to have a lease in writing per

[1:18:59] se I don't want to get into

[1:19:01] the the legal issues that their owner

[1:19:04] that you know shark might have it so

[1:19:06] that's concerned but there are

[1:19:07] month-to-month leases and that could be

[1:19:09] what's being applied now there are

[1:19:11] requirements and obviously that would

[1:19:13] have to be it's case specific so I would

[1:19:14] not feel comfortable you know saying

[1:19:16] anything uh on the record about that

[1:19:18] because it depends on on each unit but

[1:19:20] there is there's such a thing as month

[1:19:22] to month

[1:19:23] on the folks that uh if they try to

[1:19:26] retaliate is there anything we can do as

[1:19:29] a city

[1:19:31] um to stop them from kicking these folks

[1:19:33] out of their residence until we can come

[1:19:35] to an agreement

[1:19:37] we could um look into because of the

[1:19:41] safety issues possibly enjoining them

[1:19:43] from from taking action against the actual occupants okay we'll go ahead

[1:19:49] and start checking on that absolutely

[1:19:50] because we're going to have to do

[1:19:52] something yeah so it sounds like most of

[1:19:55] the mobile homes are home yes which is

[1:19:59] totally opposite from what my

[1:20:04] so if you foreclose on the property

[1:20:08] underneath

[1:20:10] the performance it's a it's a it's a

[1:20:13] mess SMS but right now

[1:20:18] people are going to die out there if we

[1:20:20] don't step in it's getting worse

[1:20:23] um do we know if they're owners that are

[1:20:25] actually selling

[1:20:27] their

[1:20:29] mobile homes 2 44 sharp now

[1:20:34] okay yeah another question I have is can

[1:20:37] they move to another place if they find

[1:20:39] if we can find another mobile home park

[1:20:42] where they can move their homes to is

[1:20:44] that is that most of those places are

[1:20:46] not movable they're on wheels off

[1:20:54] so looking at

[1:20:55] him

[1:20:59] all right

[1:21:01] let's go ahead and bring it back to you

[1:21:04] um if you want to close this part and

[1:21:06] we'll do what we need to do all right so

[1:21:07] we're going to go ahead and close public

[1:21:08] comment I I'm I'm sorry mayor I do have

[1:21:12] one more card

[1:21:13] who do we have uh it's just someone

[1:21:16] who's identified as Dawn

[1:21:18] John do you need to speak or do you are

[1:21:20] you going to let us okay come on up real

[1:21:23] quick

[1:21:26] thank you

[1:21:33] I just want to briefly say too because I

[1:21:36] am a tenant there I bought my mobile

[1:21:40] two years ago after Mr Rodriguez had

[1:21:42] bought the property

[1:21:44] um I moved from out of state to be close

[1:21:46] to my mother

[1:21:47] and supposedly reading in the paper the

[1:21:50] improvements and bringing things stuff

[1:21:52] up to code was kind of one of the

[1:21:53] reasons plus being low income

[1:21:56] that was something I could afford even

[1:21:58] though it was a fixer-upper and I'm

[1:22:00] pretty handy

[1:22:02] um nobody has seen Mr Rodriguez since he

[1:22:06] bought the property I know that there's

[1:22:08] been other tenants that have reached out

[1:22:10] to try to get a hold of him about

[1:22:11] certain things that needed fixing

[1:22:14] updated and nobody's got no responses

[1:22:18] um

[1:22:19] as far as that electric pole that tipped

[1:22:21] over I was the one that actually came up

[1:22:23] across that after I went and checked my

[1:22:24] mail and was coming through the park and

[1:22:27] I noticed it laying down so I kept my

[1:22:28] car parked there and I called Duke

[1:22:31] Energy and different things to try to

[1:22:33] get somebody come out because that area

[1:22:35] is always flooded when it rains then

[1:22:38] Poles get rotted after so many years and

[1:22:40] it just tipped right over

[1:22:42] you know

[1:22:43] just being you know access to that

[1:22:46] um

[1:22:47] because lot rent has been rising in the

[1:22:50] two years I've been there it started out

[1:22:51] at like 3 45 when I moved in two years

[1:22:54] ago as of last month with the base rent

[1:22:58] the water sewered lawn

[1:23:02] um two years back taxes were being

[1:23:04] charged for uh almost 18 a month for a

[1:23:08] year

[1:23:09] to pay property taxes of the past two

[1:23:12] years

[1:23:12] has been added onto our flat rate

[1:23:15] so mine right now is 570 dollars a month

[1:23:19] I make about a thousand three hundred

[1:23:21] months I'm being evicted next week

[1:23:23] because I cannot afford the lot rent

[1:23:27] and I'll be homeless because I have no

[1:23:29] place to go

[1:23:30] and there's like four other people in

[1:23:32] the park that are also being evicted

[1:23:34] because we can't afford and we're

[1:23:36] getting behind on a rent

[1:23:40] and I live next to the three empty ones

[1:23:43] by the railroad tracks for two years

[1:23:46] they don't keep the grass and weeds

[1:23:48] around the trailer kept up I tried doing

[1:23:50] it I get full of splinters and Spurs and

[1:23:53] everything from the weeds and the little

[1:23:55] Sanders

[1:23:56] the grass is now getting up to our hips

[1:23:59] and if we do it I asked the manager for

[1:24:03] um a discount on my rent because I'm

[1:24:06] doing my own lawn even if it's sweet

[1:24:07] with a weeder she said no you're doing

[1:24:09] that out of the kindness of your heart

[1:24:12] okay that I can't get a discount on my

[1:24:15] rent even though it was in the main

[1:24:16] paperwork we get

[1:24:18] I live next to those three empty

[1:24:20] trailers for two years

[1:24:22] I am the one that went and re-boarded up

[1:24:25] number three because of homelessness

[1:24:28] constantly going in there in the middle

[1:24:30] of the night to do whatever they do and

[1:24:33] how can we sleep restfully when we don't

[1:24:36] know what's going on next door to us

[1:24:38] whether someone's gonna break in or

[1:24:40] whatever or the place is going to burn

[1:24:42] down because who knows what they're

[1:24:44] doing

[1:24:44] it took me a half a day with a herniated

[1:24:47] disc to board that trailer up completely

[1:24:50] so they could not get in there

[1:24:55] and a lot of the owners most people own

[1:24:59] their trailers there and what he was

[1:25:01] saying about coming in to inspect

[1:25:03] everybody's place that the owners would

[1:25:06] be the ones to get and find if there's

[1:25:07] any no that's a problem we were just

[1:25:10] concentrating on trying to find the ones

[1:25:12] that were owned by the mobile home park

[1:25:13] okay because owners we were trying to

[1:25:16] find out who the ones were so we could

[1:25:18] separate those out and do a process of

[1:25:20] elimination and find out which ones the

[1:25:23] park actually are because I would say

[1:25:24] that the owners would probably be

[1:25:26] reluctant to let you know them come in

[1:25:27] and check because who knows how long

[1:25:29] they've been there and with our limited

[1:25:31] income it's hard to try to make

[1:25:33] improvements

[1:25:35] and I would be glad to see something

[1:25:37] being done all right thank you so much

[1:25:39] thank you well I'll close the public

[1:25:41] comment section all right Commissioners

[1:25:44] we have the force resolution number

[1:25:46] 22-68 what's the will of our commission

[1:25:49] so moved second all right first and

[1:25:51] second any further discussion

[1:25:54] roll call please

[1:25:56] commissioner Smith

[1:25:58] commissioner Cobb aye commissioner

[1:26:00] Hawkins aye vice mayor Lee aye mayor

[1:26:03] Holland aye

[1:26:05] folks we're going to work on this so

[1:26:07] bear with us Eric Martin we'll start

[1:26:10] we'll get you a date where we can all

[1:26:12] meet and sit and talk for a little bit

[1:26:13] okay and we will publicize that meeting

[1:26:16] so that all the commission can be there

[1:26:18] and we can interact with you a little

[1:26:20] bit better okay thank you and I'm very

[1:26:23] sorry

[1:26:24] it's heartbreaking Madam attorney

[1:26:27] next we have resolution 22-69 a

[1:26:30] resolution of the city Commission of the

[1:26:32] City of Eustis Florida approving a code

[1:26:34] enforcement board action to authorize

[1:26:35] the City attorney to foreclose on two

[1:26:37] outstanding code enforcement liens

[1:26:39] recorded against 15 hassles on the

[1:26:40] street

[1:26:42] so mayor we do not have a formal

[1:26:45] presentation uh this is a case where

[1:26:47] we've had some issues uh some issues

[1:26:50] with uh water customer service and the

[1:26:52] water meter I think at this point it is

[1:26:58] um occupied by

[1:27:00] squatters basically and we're

[1:27:03] recommending moving forward with the

[1:27:06] foreclosure on the lien if you do have

[1:27:09] any questions again Mr Martin is here

[1:27:11] Chief Capri has had some interaction

[1:27:13] with the people that are currently in

[1:27:14] the house and so we'd be happy to try to

[1:27:16] answer any questions you may have

[1:27:19] it's really bad is there anyone in the

[1:27:21] audience that would like to speak as to

[1:27:23] resolution 22-69

[1:27:25] seeing

[1:27:27] we just resolution 22-69

[1:27:30] .

[1:27:32] y'all it's not your part yes

[1:27:35] [Laughter]

[1:27:37] seeing none Mr Mayor commissioners

[1:27:40] before us we have resolution

[1:27:41] 22-69 what's the will of our commission

[1:27:44] so moved thank you second thank you

[1:27:46] ma'am any further discussion not hearing

[1:27:49] any roll call please commissioner hope

[1:27:51] Smith

[1:27:51] commissioner Cobb aye commissioner

[1:27:53] Hawkins aye vice mayor Lee aye mayor

[1:27:56] Holland aye

[1:27:58] next we have resolution 22-64 a

[1:28:01] resolution by the city Commission of the

[1:28:02] City of Eustis Lake County Florida

[1:28:04] adopting the final millage Levy of ad

[1:28:06] valorem taxes for the City of Eustis

[1:28:08] Lake County for the fiscal year

[1:28:10] 2022-2023 providing for an effective

[1:28:12] date

[1:28:14] mayor members of commission Mike Shepard

[1:28:16] Finance director uh tonight we're doing

[1:28:19] the final reading on the millage rate

[1:28:21] it's going to be 7581

[1:28:23] and um

[1:28:25] it is 8.2 percent higher than the

[1:28:28] rollback rate of seven

[1:28:30] 00464.

[1:28:33] uh any questions

[1:28:36] nope okay for anyone in the audience I

[1:28:40] would like to speak on resolution 22-64

[1:28:44] seeing none public comment is closed Mr

[1:28:46] Mann commissioners before speaking of

[1:28:48] resolution 22-64 what's the will of our

[1:28:50] commission move for approval thank you

[1:28:53] ma'am

[1:28:54] a second thank you ma'am any further

[1:28:56] discussion not hearing any roll call

[1:28:58] please commissioner of the Hope Smith

[1:29:00] aye commissioner Cobb aye commissioner

[1:29:02] Hawkins aye vice mayor Lee aye mayor

[1:29:05] Holland aye

[1:29:06] and last we have resolution 22-65 a

[1:29:09] resolution by the city Commission of the

[1:29:11] City of Eustis Lee County Florida

[1:29:12] adopting the final budget for the fiscal

[1:29:14] year

[1:29:15] 2022-2023 providing for an effective

[1:29:17] date Mr Shepard yes this uh is the final

[1:29:21] reading for the this year's budget this

[1:29:24] is the document that

[1:29:26] culminates everything that we've talked

[1:29:28] about for the last three or four months

[1:29:31] so

[1:29:32] we've had to try to get as much input as

[1:29:35] we could

[1:29:36] directors uh you all

[1:29:39] and staff have really done a great job

[1:29:42] of putting this document together and

[1:29:45] getting the information necessary for it

[1:29:47] and the millage rate will support this for the general fund

[1:29:52] and

[1:29:53] I do want to give credit the photos

[1:29:57] we're

[1:29:58] from

[1:30:00] Salt Lake Nature Center

[1:30:03] they provided those that's so cute they

[1:30:06] were yes

[1:30:08] any questions from the commission

[1:30:10] is there anyone in the audience that

[1:30:11] would like to speak on resolution 22-65

[1:30:14] seeing none public comment is closed Mr

[1:30:16] Mayor Commissioners report staff

[1:30:17] resolution number 22-65 what's the will

[1:30:20] of our commission

[1:30:25] thank you all any further discussion not

[1:30:30] hearing any roll call please

[1:30:31] commissioner hope Smith

[1:30:33] aye commissioner Cobb aye commissioner

[1:30:35] Hawkins aye vice mayor Lee I'm mayor

[1:30:37] Holland aye Mike thank you and your

[1:30:39] staff for all you've done it was a

[1:30:41] pleasure to work with you all this year

[1:30:43] on this I hope you enjoy the process and

[1:30:46] I think it's well worthwhile thank you madam attorney thank you so

[1:30:49] much if you would start looking on some

[1:30:51] of those you've heard some of our

[1:30:53] concerns with Sharpsburg if you all

[1:30:54] could start working on absolutely

[1:30:56] fourths please thank you so much other

[1:30:58] business uh City commission compensation

[1:31:00] Mr Howe

[1:31:03] Bill Howe Director of Human Resources

[1:31:06] you've been provided a staff report

[1:31:08] regarding commission compensation this

[1:31:11] is based on the conversation of the last

[1:31:13] commission meeting where the commission

[1:31:14] asked staff to make a recommendation

[1:31:15] based on area municipality wages paid to

[1:31:19] Commissioners and the mayor

[1:31:21] brief summary is we've recommended

[1:31:25] the current amount for the commission is

[1:31:27] fifty four hundred dollars a month a

[1:31:29] year excuse me uh that was a year now to

[1:31:33] make a difference

[1:31:36] yeah you want to see 400 annually

[1:31:39] as we said that was last adjusted in

[1:31:42] 1989 33 years ago uh the com the wages

[1:31:46] for the mayor's 6400 annually we're

[1:31:49] recommending that when you look at the

[1:31:51] top eight population jurisdictions in

[1:31:53] the county and you average those other

[1:31:55] than Eustis the average is eight

[1:31:57] thousand dollars that's our

[1:31:59] recommendation for the commission the

[1:32:01] average of the mayor's positions in the

[1:32:03] other large cities uh is 9751 annually

[1:32:07] we're recommending a uh an amount of

[1:32:10] 97.50 annually

[1:32:13] we'd also recommend that the commission

[1:32:16] consider making future increases

[1:32:18] annually as given to other General

[1:32:20] employees that will prevent us from

[1:32:22] going 33 years without looking in a wage

[1:32:24] adjustment

[1:32:25] I provided information at the last

[1:32:28] meeting regarding medical insurance it's

[1:32:30] provided to two cities in Lake County

[1:32:33] and then we're asking what the will of

[1:32:35] the commission is regarding the medical

[1:32:36] insurance I've provided cost information

[1:32:38] for those and I'd be happy to answer any

[1:32:41] questions of Bill

[1:32:44] all right

[1:32:46] um so this will need to come back for a

[1:32:48] vote correct Tom

[1:32:50] yes

[1:32:51] um we're asking for consensus this

[1:32:53] evening and if if what we've recommended

[1:32:55] is acceptable then we'll actually have

[1:32:58] to bring back a budget amendment sure um

[1:33:00] but it's um the total cost is such that

[1:33:03] it's something that we can take out of

[1:33:05] contingency

[1:33:06] and so but we do have to bring back a

[1:33:09] budget amendment for you so wage

[1:33:11] increase if the wage increases were made

[1:33:13] total increases thirteen thousand seven

[1:33:15] hundred fifty dollars in wages okay so

[1:33:17] let's let's talk compensation first uh

[1:33:20] Karen are you okay with the change in

[1:33:22] compensation Emily Willy yeah all right

[1:33:26] so you've got unanimous on compensation

[1:33:28] let's go to health insurance

[1:33:30] um man what do you feel about health

[1:33:32] insurance well I know you're purchasing

[1:33:34] it I purchased the city insurance and

[1:33:36] make no mistake it is wonderful

[1:33:38] Insurance yes but and it's just a single

[1:33:41] policy on myself and it's about 900 a

[1:33:44] month

[1:33:45] so you're eating up everything you make

[1:33:47] just to pay for insurance pretty much I

[1:33:49] work for nothing so yeah but which is it

[1:33:52] is what it is so you know I can

[1:33:55] I'll take it either way you know what

[1:33:57] I'm saying you know I look at the 2600

[1:34:00] jump and and I'm good with that I'm good

[1:34:03] with that you know whatever the will of

[1:34:05] the commission is I mean I'm good either

[1:34:06] way do you want to add insurance or you

[1:34:08] want to leave it just the compensation

[1:34:10] change will you I don't need it but I

[1:34:12] think that

[1:34:14] the option should be there okay yes

[1:34:21] exactly are we considered part-time you

[1:34:24] are

[1:34:25] our part-timers offered Insurance not in

[1:34:29] the city no

[1:34:30] so I would say no okay

[1:34:33] and Emily

[1:34:37] um it should be nothing it should be an

[1:34:39] option okay and I think it should be an

[1:34:42] option also I I don't I'm like you

[1:34:44] really I don't need it but it's my work

[1:34:46] right more than wealth takes care of me

[1:34:48] but I think it should be an option and I

[1:34:50] think it will make it more appealing to

[1:34:53] people that may want to run for City

[1:34:54] commission and and I will say this I

[1:34:57] know we're considered part-time but I

[1:34:59] can promise you it's not

[1:35:02] I think you all know that I do more than

[1:35:04] 27 hours and Karen I do believe we had

[1:35:08] it at one time I did do away with it so

[1:35:11] um it was an option before I think it

[1:35:13] should be something optional that people

[1:35:15] want to opt for it all right I think the

[1:35:18] part of the reason we took it away

[1:35:21] because then more commissioners

[1:35:24] were paid

[1:35:25] additional

[1:35:27] seem like

[1:35:29] um

[1:35:31] for the insurance I mean as a as

[1:35:36] well I guess if you only take it on

[1:35:38] yourself the city pays all of the

[1:35:41] insurance depending on what plan you

[1:35:43] selected there are some two of the base

[1:35:45] plans there would be no charge for the

[1:35:48] commissioner City cost that's where the

[1:35:51] inequality came out about because the

[1:35:54] Commissioners that chose it was they were covered by the taxpayer

[1:36:00] so that was why it was deleted

[1:36:04] and they did the same time they did away

[1:36:06] with FRS as well yes yeah it was a lot

[1:36:09] of different reasons there was a lot of

[1:36:11] different things they did away with

[1:36:13] yeah just because there was some some

[1:36:15] Commissioners felt there was an

[1:36:16] inequality yeah and I just didn't

[1:36:18] remember the reasons and and you know it

[1:36:21] could be a situation where if you just

[1:36:23] um

[1:36:24] do the base whatever and if you want the

[1:36:27] next package then you pay for it

[1:36:30] so you know so it would be my belief

[1:36:32] that the benefit provided to full-time

[1:36:35] employees would be provided to

[1:36:37] commissioners

[1:36:38] if Commissioners as full-time employees

[1:36:41] do they select the base plan the city

[1:36:43] would pay and generally we're paying

[1:36:45] about eighty four hundred dollars a year

[1:36:47] for single coverage

[1:36:48] fifteen thousand dollars for family

[1:36:50] coverage

[1:36:52] if the commission or the full-time

[1:36:54] employee wants to upgrade to a higher

[1:36:56] level HMO or PPO then then the employee

[1:37:00] of the commissioner would pay that

[1:37:01] difference I didn't know because I just

[1:37:03] paid the whole thing yeah

[1:37:06] okay

[1:37:07] I think I think we can bring it back

[1:37:09] that way okay so we will

[1:37:12] um we'll how about we contact the

[1:37:15] Commissioners individually to see what

[1:37:16] their interest is in health insurance

[1:37:18] and then we'll bring some for that okay

[1:37:22] sounds good to everybody

[1:37:23] all right thank you thank you Bill

[1:37:26] uh next one uh where are we at

[1:37:29] discussion at downtown and East Town

[1:37:32] Redevelopment agency board CRA and the

[1:37:35] community representative positions

[1:37:43] I promise

[1:37:48] okay so this is a continuation of a

[1:37:51] discussion we had at the last Commission

[1:37:53] meeting and there were some additional

[1:37:56] questions that were brought up and so

[1:37:57] hopefully I'll be able to address those

[1:38:00] so

[1:38:01] we expanded the CRA board back in 2018

[1:38:05] according to the fra 97 percent of CRA

[1:38:08] board members are local elected

[1:38:10] officials and in our case uh the the CRA

[1:38:13] board is the five members uh back in

[1:38:17] 2018 we added the two Community reps and

[1:38:21] that was under Florida statute

[1:38:24] 163.357 governing body which consists of

[1:38:27] five members May appoint two additional

[1:38:30] members to act as members of the

[1:38:33] community redevelopment agency and this

[1:38:36] will address one of the questions that

[1:38:37] came up at the last meeting the statute

[1:38:40] actually says the term shall be for four

[1:38:43] years except that the first person

[1:38:45] appointed shell initially served for two

[1:38:47] years and that's to stagger the terms so

[1:38:50] our initial appointee was Dan Kelsey Dan

[1:38:53] Kelsey

[1:38:54] then left and so that that two-year term

[1:38:57] has been

[1:38:59] um

[1:39:00] we're on four-year terms at this point

[1:39:02] and the statute says they have to be

[1:39:04] four-year terms so we don't have the

[1:39:06] ability to to I know one of the

[1:39:08] questions was can we go to two-year

[1:39:09] terms or one-year terms uh we cannot do

[1:39:12] that based on the statute

[1:39:14] so

[1:39:16] the um the statute the statute does

[1:39:19] require that the new board members must

[1:39:21] reside or be engaged in business in the

[1:39:24] CRA and it also says that the board

[1:39:27] members are subject to Sunshine Law and

[1:39:30] to the code of ethics

[1:39:31] um that all elected officials are

[1:39:34] subject to

[1:39:36] so this is a little bit of an

[1:39:38] explanation there were some questions

[1:39:39] about the language we had in there

[1:39:42] so there were some questions as to why

[1:39:44] do we talk about requiring expertise in

[1:39:47] architecture Finance construction land

[1:39:49] use affordable housing sustainability

[1:39:52] and or community redevelopment and when

[1:39:55] I pulled up the research there were two

[1:39:57] bills in 2018 one house bill and one

[1:40:00] Senate Bill the Senate bill was actually

[1:40:03] going to require that we add two members

[1:40:06] the bill didn't pass but it was going to

[1:40:10] not only require that we add two members

[1:40:13] but the two new members couldn't be

[1:40:15] elected officials and they had to have

[1:40:17] expertise in architecture Finance

[1:40:19] construction so what we did was we

[1:40:21] borrowed that language the commission at

[1:40:23] the time said we kind of like that

[1:40:25] language and even though the Senate Bill

[1:40:27] didn't pass let's use that language

[1:40:30] and so that's why that language is in

[1:40:33] there

[1:40:35] so items for your consideration

[1:40:38] um one thing that was mentioned is what

[1:40:41] if we ask the community reps to give

[1:40:44] periodic reports

[1:40:45] to the commission and by that I think

[1:40:49] the intent was if you're out there

[1:40:51] talking to the community if you're

[1:40:52] attending events come back and report to

[1:40:55] us as to what kind of public input

[1:40:57] you're getting what events have you

[1:40:58] attended what upcoming events are you

[1:41:01] planning to attend uh that type of thing

[1:41:03] and then another item

[1:41:07] is

[1:41:08] um the the resolution that was passed

[1:41:10] actually encourage professional

[1:41:12] development and continuing education but

[1:41:15] I will be honest I have not encouraged

[1:41:18] that enough so we should be working with

[1:41:21] our two Community reps to talk to them

[1:41:24] about opportunities at Florida

[1:41:26] Redevelopment Association and everybody

[1:41:28] should have gotten in the packet of the

[1:41:31] fra annual meeting is upcoming in

[1:41:34] mid-october and so we should be

[1:41:36] encouraging our community reps to go to

[1:41:38] this and then fra also has a

[1:41:40] certification program where they do

[1:41:42] periodic trainings uh around the state

[1:41:46] and so

[1:41:48] um again we in this in the resolution we

[1:41:51] have said we encourage professional

[1:41:53] development

[1:41:55] um

[1:41:55] and continuing education but I will be

[1:41:58] more aggressive about that moving

[1:42:00] forward and so

[1:42:02] that's all I have at this point

[1:42:05] um so really items to if we can't we

[1:42:07] can't do anything about the terms uh so

[1:42:10] the question is do you want to continue

[1:42:11] having these two positions

[1:42:13] if so do you want the Reps to do

[1:42:17] periodic reporting and I will be more

[1:42:19] aggressive about professional

[1:42:21] development and so I'd be happy to

[1:42:23] listen to any feedback you might have

[1:42:25] vice mayor start us off

[1:42:30] I have some concerns about

[1:42:33] um can even continuing

[1:42:35] I like that the suggestions about uh I

[1:42:39] feel like there needs to be a better

[1:42:41] connection

[1:42:42] if they're going to be the community

[1:42:44] reps they come they sit and they just

[1:42:46] listen to us and we get nothing back so

[1:42:49] I I like that idea that they come back

[1:42:51] we know that they're interacting with

[1:42:53] the community we know that they're

[1:42:55] getting

[1:42:57] feedback from the community and they

[1:42:58] bring back to us I guess I'd like to see

[1:43:00] that happen I really really encourage

[1:43:04] um the

[1:43:06] education part of it I think that's very

[1:43:08] important

[1:43:10] my concern is

[1:43:12] the the qualifications when you go back

[1:43:15] to it the land use

[1:43:16] um

[1:43:17] knowing these things

[1:43:20] um that seems like it's limits

[1:43:24] the participation of people having these

[1:43:28] kinds of qualifications

[1:43:31] um I I think it would be wonderful if we

[1:43:33] could find someone to do that but I do

[1:43:35] think it's important that

[1:43:37] um they have a

[1:43:39] they were asking about voting that isn't

[1:43:42] as much of an issue to me as their

[1:43:45] being connected to the community and

[1:43:47] being able to feedback give us some

[1:43:49] information and interact with us on that note so that's more important to

[1:43:54] me than whether or not they can vote but

[1:43:56] if they couldn't vote and it's nothing

[1:43:58] other than the way we've been doing it I

[1:44:00] would say demolished get rid of it but

[1:44:02] if we add all these other things I think

[1:44:04] it's important and I think it'll create

[1:44:06] a better

[1:44:08] um kind of position if we did if we do

[1:44:11] those things okay so if we add the

[1:44:13] education ring and the other thing

[1:44:16] reporting back you're good with going

[1:44:18] ahead and keeping the two seats yes on

[1:44:21] the CRA yes my question is how do they

[1:44:24] apply and then they can show that they

[1:44:27] have expertise in these areas and then

[1:44:29] they come back to us and we choose them

[1:44:30] that's the process okay

[1:44:33] it's it's similar to every other board

[1:44:35] in commission we have so there's a

[1:44:38] standard application and they would fill

[1:44:40] that out

[1:44:42] really I

[1:44:46] you know I think we should keep them uh

[1:44:49] I think that they should stay on we well

[1:44:50] we should uh you know keep the two uh

[1:44:53] Community uh members okay I think to

[1:44:57] do a way way with them is a step back

[1:45:00] for us okay uh

[1:45:02] the one thing I'm not crazy about is

[1:45:07] you know this verbiage architecture

[1:45:09] Finance construction you know we want

[1:45:11] people that live here that that love

[1:45:14] this city and they all may not have

[1:45:17] and I'm sure the majority of the people

[1:45:19] that may apply you know won't have any

[1:45:21] of that stuff so I don't know what

[1:45:23] previous commissions

[1:45:24] uh thought when they wanted to include

[1:45:28] that

[1:45:29] um but I don't want to use that as a way

[1:45:31] to kind of weed people out I think love

[1:45:34] of community

[1:45:35] uh you know wanting to see Eustis grow

[1:45:38] is is probably a little bit more

[1:45:40] important than some of this and I agree

[1:45:43] we do need to have that feedback

[1:45:45] I think that would be great to him have

[1:45:48] them come in and

[1:45:50] you know and give us that feedback

[1:45:53] um you know what communities think and

[1:45:54] what the communities say all right

[1:45:56] sounds good I think they would feel good

[1:45:59] about being a part of it when they can

[1:46:01] give something back it helps them feel

[1:46:04] like they're a part of the sport yes

[1:46:06] ma'am

[1:46:07] Karen

[1:46:10] um I am a proponent of keeping the people

[1:46:15] okay I I do understand that the verbiage

[1:46:19] does

[1:46:20] put most of us out heck I think we all

[1:46:22] need to take the class I mean it

[1:46:25] wouldn't hurt any of us to be involved

[1:46:28] in that but um

[1:46:34] I'm still in favor of keeping the two Representatives

[1:46:39] Dan

[1:46:41] um Yes actually I did sign up for the

[1:46:43] class okay that week so I am signed up I

[1:46:46] would like to see the word expertise

[1:46:48] removed I don't think I think expertise

[1:46:50] kind of

[1:46:51] um you know and we could add some

[1:46:53] language in there as well but I think

[1:46:56] these things a lot of them will happen

[1:47:00] when they get educated and when they

[1:47:03] attend the classes okay so I think that

[1:47:06] problem will solve itself but I also do

[1:47:08] like you know love of community you know

[1:47:10] things of the like however and I totally

[1:47:13] agree with Emily that

[1:47:16] you've got to come with something you

[1:47:18] have to come and and I want I want to

[1:47:21] see engagement in east and west

[1:47:25] you just can't just because you're from

[1:47:28] Easter just because you're from West

[1:47:29] doesn't mean we separate I don't like

[1:47:31] that separation go to everything

[1:47:35] just go to everything because how can

[1:47:36] you be knowledgeable about something

[1:47:38] that we do maybe with George fast or

[1:47:40] something that we're doing maybe

[1:47:43] downtown if you're not involved in it or

[1:47:46] you're not get the education to get the

[1:47:48] background in it I I want to see them

[1:47:51] involved in in both sides okay because

[1:47:54] we are one Eustis and so I I want that

[1:47:58] um

[1:47:59] I want that inclusive like that we need

[1:48:01] more information you know we need to see

[1:48:04] you know what what do you see you know

[1:48:07] so you don't you're right and they don't

[1:48:09] have a vote and I I truly believe that

[1:48:10] needs to come from an elected official I

[1:48:12] do however it doesn't mean that what you

[1:48:15] say isn't important but you've got to

[1:48:16] come with us with something other than

[1:48:17] just coming and sitting up here we've

[1:48:19] got to have some more interaction

[1:48:21] so I'm a pronoun for keeping it but we

[1:48:23] just we've got to tweak it a little bit

[1:48:25] I I'm in favor of keeping it as well

[1:48:28] um I I believe that the education part

[1:48:31] is very important whether we're engaging

[1:48:33] Tom in the the format that you've got

[1:48:36] before you or for what the Florida

[1:48:37] League of cities offers as well yes

[1:48:40] um so um and you know we sit here we say

[1:48:43] we want Community involvement but yet we

[1:48:45] put these two seats on a chopping block

[1:48:47] it's not fair to the community so we

[1:48:50] need to keep it okay okay a couple of

[1:48:53] things

[1:48:54] um if we do want to modify the language

[1:48:57] It Is by we did approve it by resolution

[1:48:59] so I will have to bring you back a

[1:49:01] modified resolution if you'd like uh I

[1:49:04] can look at that what would you do you

[1:49:07] want to just remove the word expertise

[1:49:09] and then put something in there or do

[1:49:11] you want to remove that entire section

[1:49:14] well this says education or experience

[1:49:16] does this the advertisement it doesn't

[1:49:19] say expertise

[1:49:21] so it depends on what the resolution is

[1:49:24] that the word expertise may have been in

[1:49:26] the original Senate bill I think that's

[1:49:28] right and so yeah the resolution may

[1:49:31] have modified yeah

[1:49:34] just take a look at it okay I will bring

[1:49:37] it back that way and maybe Community

[1:49:39] involvement sure

[1:49:50] and then the final thing

[1:49:52] um commissioner Cobb mentioned um so

[1:49:55] there's

[1:49:56] um

[1:49:57] the Florida Redevelopment association

[1:49:59] annual conference is October 12th to the

[1:50:01] 14th it's in Daytona uh that first day

[1:50:04] the 12th there is

[1:50:06] um a session called CRA board training

[1:50:09] it's basically CRA basic CRA 101

[1:50:13] um and uh so Al and I are going for the

[1:50:16] entire conference but that CRA board

[1:50:19] training might be the most valuable

[1:50:21] session and so there is still an

[1:50:24] opportunity to sign up for that so if

[1:50:27] you would like to sign up for that we

[1:50:29] can get everybody signed up and we can

[1:50:32] take care of that for you

[1:50:34] we have Emo the same week are you going

[1:50:36] to emo no one in uh no Tampa okay

[1:50:40] because I'm just traveling from Daytona

[1:50:42] and then I'll do you know the one that

[1:50:44] the the meaning that he's talking about

[1:50:47] and then a couple of the classes and the

[1:50:49] next day then you leave then I'll go to

[1:50:51] Tampa

[1:50:55] so we'll reach out to each commissioner

[1:50:57] individually and you can let us know do

[1:50:59] you want to do just the the CRA board

[1:51:01] training or the entire event yeah and uh

[1:51:04] we'll get it squared away okay Christine

[1:51:06] would you please make sure that if more

[1:51:09] than one of them are going you notify it

[1:51:11] so that we don't get the Sunshine Law

[1:51:15] catch us okay

[1:51:17] just noticed it

[1:51:19] so all right

[1:51:21] um we're going to take a quick five

[1:51:24] minute break and then we'll come back

[1:51:25] and we will do the regulations on

[1:51:27] backyard chickens and finish our meeting

[1:51:30] up so five minute break this boat

[1:57:03] welcome back everyone we're going to

[1:57:05] move down down to regulations relating

[1:57:06] uh to Backyard chickens who wants to

[1:57:09] start Tom you want to start or we go

[1:57:11] turn it over to Mike sure I'll uh just

[1:57:13] kind of open with

[1:57:15] um this is um something that I was going

[1:57:17] to bring up under reports but it might

[1:57:19] be relevant to this conversation

[1:57:22] um I think we've had several

[1:57:24] Commissioners talk about having a

[1:57:27] workshop on density and future land use

[1:57:31] and kind of looking at some items in our

[1:57:35] comprehensive plan

[1:57:37] and

[1:57:38] um that's probably not a hour before a

[1:57:42] normal Commission meeting type of

[1:57:43] workshop and so I was looking at a

[1:57:48] Saturday Workshop

[1:57:51] and I I know that's painful but that's

[1:57:54] probably the kind of time we're gonna

[1:57:55] need to talk

[1:57:57] um I'd like to do it sooner rather than

[1:57:59] later I don't know

[1:58:02] um

[1:58:03] I've talked to a couple of Commissioners

[1:58:05] about Saturday October 8th

[1:58:08] uh does

[1:58:10] um do we mind looking at and the reason

[1:58:12] I'm bringing this up is part of this

[1:58:15] conversation might be that uh backyard

[1:58:18] foul are appropriate in certain land use

[1:58:21] categories and so maybe it's um part of

[1:58:25] the discussion is uh where is this

[1:58:28] appropriate and in what land use

[1:58:30] categories and so this might be

[1:58:33] I think it's reasonable to have some

[1:58:35] discussion this evening about about this

[1:58:38] but I also think that this might be a

[1:58:41] larger land use discussion and we can do

[1:58:43] that on October 8th if the commission

[1:58:47] is available I'm okay I'm not I'm

[1:58:49] available I'm not

[1:58:52] okay what about October 1st

[1:58:54] no I'm not I'm in Baltimore on the 8th

[1:58:59] I'm not available on the 15th but I am

[1:59:02] on the 22nd and I'm not

[1:59:04] wait a minute that's the Fall Festival

[1:59:07] on 22nd night the 22nd is Fall Festival

[1:59:12] could we do it on a Monday or Tuesday

[1:59:14] night do you think how much time do you

[1:59:16] think we need

[1:59:17] um we probably need two to three hours I

[1:59:20] would think

[1:59:22] we could I mean if we were to if we were

[1:59:25] to do it on a weeknight and start at say

[1:59:28] 4 P.M maybe we did that one of our

[1:59:31] recent meetings we did that was it a

[1:59:33] budget Workshop

[1:59:35] uh where we started early on a weekday

[1:59:37] I'd rather do it during the weekdays my

[1:59:40] weekends are

[1:59:41] slammed

[1:59:45] by October our regular Thursdays or six

[1:59:48] in the 20th what about the third of

[1:59:49] October on a Monday I'm good

[1:59:52] the third of October

[1:59:55] I'm good October 3rd October 3rd

[2:00:00] I'd rather do it sooner than later yeah

[2:00:02] I can do October 3rd

[2:00:05] is this a and I let me ask Mike and Jeff

[2:00:09] and Heather uh there's going to be some

[2:00:11] prep work that goes into this do we

[2:00:13] think we can pull together the

[2:00:15] information we need by October by Monday

[2:00:17] October 3rd

[2:00:19] it's a cake they can do it

[2:00:21] [Laughter]

[2:00:24] laughs

[2:00:26] okay

[2:00:27] um we want to start earlier

[2:00:31] I think

[2:00:32] if you woke that I was wondering more

[2:00:35] about you you don't really care

[2:00:37] I'm in short-termers mode at work so

[2:00:40] she's retired first of the year okay

[2:00:42] yeah you don't care are we gonna do a

[2:00:45] breakfast oh no

[2:00:47] [Laughter]

[2:00:50] you want to start at some 6 30 a.m

[2:00:52] breakfast all right why don't you start

[2:00:54] doing my first conference call at 5

[2:00:56] 30 every time

[2:00:59] okay uh why don't we do three o'clock on

[2:01:01] the third if that works for staff

[2:01:04] you guys good

[2:01:07] um I it it looks like that will work on

[2:01:10] the calendar

[2:01:12] you all right okay and if you'll remember when we

[2:01:17] brought this up the last time talking

[2:01:19] about the consideration of chickens I

[2:01:23] said there are places that I am not

[2:01:27] opposed to chickens and there are places

[2:01:30] that I am opposed to them I think having

[2:01:32] this conversation

[2:01:35] um during this Workshop is where this

[2:01:37] conversation needs to take place

[2:01:40] um I think that Mike's presentation I've

[2:01:42] read through parts of it and I think

[2:01:45] that um that that needs to be a part of

[2:01:48] what we looked at during this

[2:01:49] presentation to be honest with you I

[2:01:51] agree and I know you all made a special

[2:01:53] trip here tonight you've sat here all

[2:01:55] night with us but I I did not know that

[2:01:59] this is the way we were going to try to

[2:02:00] do this but I think it works out better

[2:02:02] and I think it's better for the citizens

[2:02:04] of Eustis

[2:02:06] um

[2:02:07] and there's a lot of reasons why we need

[2:02:09] to do this land use stuff as we grow we

[2:02:13] want to be fair to the citizens to the

[2:02:15] east of Eustis as we look at annexations

[2:02:18] and things like that that we're making

[2:02:21] the right decisions to be good neighbors

[2:02:23] and to make it to where people want to

[2:02:26] Annex into the City and I I just think

[2:02:29] this is the perfect time for this so

[2:02:32] um if it's okay I think we even delay

[2:02:35] this presentation to us part of this

[2:02:38] meeting but that's up to this commission

[2:02:41] I agree

[2:02:42] so y'all are okay you okay um Karen you

[2:02:45] okay

[2:02:46] um so I'm Mike I'm sorry I know you

[2:02:48] stayed here too all dressed up tonight

[2:02:50] with a time with a tie and everything

[2:02:53] but let's let's go ahead and make this

[2:02:56] part of our presentation on October

[2:02:59] uh for okay okay yes all right all right

[2:03:02] I want to say kudos to Mike and his crew

[2:03:06] that put this together this was so nice

[2:03:09] it was easy to read yes and it was

[2:03:13] um

[2:03:14] I thought it was an excellent

[2:03:15] presentation compiled in a few pages so

[2:03:19] okay

[2:03:23] pages

[2:03:28] so don't complain I took a nap so

[2:03:34] um if you won't get a copy of what we're

[2:03:37] looking at

[2:03:39] this so um that's the regular City

[2:03:42] commission talk about this dude can you

[2:03:45] share that with with these folks

[2:03:50] here

[2:03:52] so due to Ada accessibility yes this was

[2:03:55] not included online in the packet it was

[2:03:58] something that was emailed it is

[2:03:59] definitely available to the public

[2:04:02] um we just wasn't something that we put

[2:04:04] up online

[2:04:06] we'll get you a copy also

[2:04:13] if anybody wants any of the presentation

[2:04:16] like Tom said because of ADA regulations

[2:04:19] we're not able to put some things online

[2:04:21] but if you'll contact the city manager's

[2:04:25] office we can email that full 22 page

[2:04:29] presentation to you if you want it this

[2:04:32] is a great uh outline of really

[2:04:34] everything kind of condensed though okay

[2:04:37] that staff put together but we'll have a

[2:04:40] full conversation after next at that at

[2:04:43] that special meeting

[2:04:44] everybody good all right let's move on

[2:04:48] to Future agenda items um

[2:04:51] help me uh

[2:04:54] you're good okay okay Karen nothing

[2:04:57] thank you yeah I'm good really future

[2:04:59] agenda I'm good anything to report Karen

[2:05:06] somewhere but

[2:05:08] it's going yeah man anything to report

[2:05:11] for him yes sir um uh this past Sunday

[2:05:16] um

[2:05:17] Atwood Family Farms out in the blueberry

[2:05:20] farm out in Eustis had a another ribbon

[2:05:23] cutting if you will and a name change to

[2:05:24] Amber Brook Farms and so the mayor and I

[2:05:27] attended that and it was just they were

[2:05:30] really really we were just really excited that they

[2:05:33] invited us you know and they were glad

[2:05:36] to have us so it was a nice turnout

[2:05:39] they've done a lot out to that property

[2:05:41] I remember when it used to be the old

[2:05:43] Alger property and they filmed Jeepers

[2:05:46] Creepers Scary Movie out there so

[2:05:49] they've done a lot of work so if you get

[2:05:50] a chance go out there they're the nicest

[2:05:52] people you could ever want to meet the

[2:05:54] Atwoods in the hills are just really

[2:05:56] super folks so if you get a chance go on

[2:05:58] out

[2:05:59] um

[2:06:01] we had as the mayor had talked before we

[2:06:05] had had a meeting we all did with fdot

[2:06:08] regarding us getting a little bit of

[2:06:10] attention at the Clover out there at

[2:06:12] 441-19

[2:06:14] and kind of up and down

[2:06:17] in Eustis

[2:06:20] probably a week later

[2:06:22] they came in mode it came in mode it is

[2:06:25] it completely finished no because that's

[2:06:26] one heck of a project but at least it's

[2:06:28] mode you can actually see the sidewalk I didn't remember sidewalk being there

[2:06:32] so but they have done a good job so

[2:06:34] we're very very thankful

[2:06:36] um you know that commissioner trunow had

[2:06:38] set all that up for us took three months

[2:06:40] to get the meeting but it was just a

[2:06:42] really Pleasant meeting and we're very happy that giving us a little bit

[2:06:46] of attention now when we're on the radar

[2:06:47] so um things are getting cleaned up if

[2:06:51] you will in Eustis and I just had one

[2:06:53] question for Papa I mean Rick

[2:06:55] I'm sorry

[2:07:00] foreign

[2:07:03] [Music]

[2:07:08] no I just wondered where we were with

[2:07:10] the islands an island update

[2:07:12] it's already stuck

[2:07:14] puppy so we're

[2:07:18] we need to get the plant the revised

[2:07:20] plans I kinda have not pushed Oh I

[2:07:23] thought you had gone with your mom I

[2:07:25] thought you got hold around

[2:07:26] um we need to pick out the material

[2:07:28] which we've got the list to be able to

[2:07:30] pick okay but yeah I need to get him

[2:07:33] kind of trued up but I'll do that I'll

[2:07:36] talk to him and see where it is yep

[2:07:39] thank you all righty got it while Rick

[2:07:41] is at the podium everyone we will be

[2:07:44] having a update back on the cemetery

[2:07:47] we've talked about it

[2:07:49] um there was just a little bit of a

[2:07:51] challenge the way that things have been

[2:07:53] written uh whether we go resolution

[2:07:57] for okay

[2:07:58] the other way ordinance

[2:08:01] that's what we're working on once that's

[2:08:04] done that'll be back in front of the

[2:08:05] commission okay

[2:08:07] all right thank you Rick is that it man

[2:08:09] that's it really okay

[2:08:11] um

[2:08:12] The Gauntlet has been oh boy now again

[2:08:20] um I got the phone call no you got it

[2:08:22] good yeah good I gave her your number

[2:08:24] okay

[2:08:26] um Lake cares they have their the annual

[2:08:30] uh Christmas Gala and

[2:08:35] um Tavares and Mount Dora have have

[2:08:38] challenged

[2:08:40] this Commission

[2:08:42] uh to do the Christmas tree yes now the

[2:08:47] thing this year commissioner Carr

[2:08:50] is that they will provide the tree

[2:08:54] and I hear it's a Charlie Brown tree so

[2:08:57] I can make Walmart look good okay well

[2:08:59] good because you got to do it

[2:09:02] um

[2:09:03] I got you and I've talked to them about

[2:09:05] uh just judging the cities as opposed to

[2:09:08] okay us against so do we get a big tree

[2:09:11] that we got psyched out the last time we

[2:09:13] were told four foot tree and I get there

[2:09:15] and everyone's got these eight foot

[2:09:16] trees yeah they're trying to get at

[2:09:18] least for us the smaller ones okay I'll

[2:09:21] we'll do the big I'll do the big one as

[2:09:22] well but I just want to level playing

[2:09:26] and uh

[2:09:28] grant writers

[2:09:30] uh I spent some time with some friends

[2:09:33] over the last week and a half and

[2:09:35] they're out in uh

[2:09:38] Louisiana

[2:09:40] and they were talking about the

[2:09:43] importance of Grant riders for them and

[2:09:46] I'd like to know how things are going

[2:09:48] with us and if it's a compensation thing

[2:09:50] because grant writers are so important

[2:09:53] too what we want to do and how we want

[2:09:56] to grow

[2:09:57] do we need to

[2:10:00] look at maybe raising that

[2:10:05] sure so we have the position advertised

[2:10:08] one thing that has changed is we brought

[2:10:10] Al on board and Al has some experience

[2:10:14] and actually

[2:10:16] um working with representative trunow's

[2:10:19] office we submitted uh two

[2:10:22] Appropriations grants and although

[2:10:25] nothing is official I think one of those

[2:10:27] projects is likely to get some funding

[2:10:30] so that's and the the Al wrote those

[2:10:33] requests we also have a grant into

[2:10:38] dceo related to some utility relocations

[2:10:42] related to the Waterman site

[2:10:44] and so I

[2:10:47] we've had discussions with with Al

[2:10:50] related to the grant writing position is

[2:10:53] that a position at one point that

[2:10:55] position might have reported directly to

[2:10:57] me but it might be appropriate for that

[2:11:00] person to report to Al uh we can take a

[2:11:02] look it's probably we need to take a

[2:11:04] look at the job description I know we

[2:11:07] submitted it to our HR consultant for

[2:11:10] scoring so that the HR consultant could

[2:11:13] give us a range where maybe the pay was

[2:11:16] appropriate we could take a look at that

[2:11:19] again

[2:11:20] um I think the the short answer to your

[2:11:23] question is I think we have more grant

[2:11:26] writing expertise on staff than we did

[2:11:27] before uh but we need to ramp that up

[2:11:30] and we know that and so we'll we'll take

[2:11:32] another look at it yeah and I and I this

[2:11:35] is just me I don't want Al to get yeah no I I understand if we get any

[2:11:41] application at all when have you

[2:11:43] received any applications

[2:11:46] okay any qualified

[2:11:57] we'll take another look at it okay we

[2:11:59] don't want to revisit looking at a

[2:12:01] company that does

[2:12:04] I mean you look at the cost of

[2:12:07] individual versus if you could pay a

[2:12:10] company for specific projects I don't

[2:12:13] know yeah the the

[2:12:15] um there are we for example Palmetto

[2:12:18] Plaza uh we had a grant consultant of

[2:12:22] write that Grant and then manage that

[2:12:24] grant for us and they secured us 750 000

[2:12:27] in cdbg small cities

[2:12:31] but they are not experts in every type

[2:12:33] of grant you know there are uh Public

[2:12:35] Safety grants police grants fire grants

[2:12:38] and so

[2:12:39] um we can get external consultant help

[2:12:43] but we would have to get help from many

[2:12:46] sectors right

[2:12:48] um and so there are not a lot of firms

[2:12:50] out there that just write all kinds of

[2:12:53] Grants and so we'd have to we've looked

[2:12:55] at that

[2:12:56] um but again they're usually specific to

[2:12:58] certain types of Grants or sectors so

[2:13:01] yeah I look at that as being with us

[2:13:04] trying to grow the way that we want to

[2:13:06] grow that's being one of the most

[2:13:08] important things that we leave to yep we

[2:13:10] need to do yeah we will um definitely

[2:13:13] take another look at that see what we

[2:13:15] can do to get more interest

[2:13:17] anything else

[2:13:19] nope that's it

[2:13:22] oh I'm sorry now here's one thing uh the

[2:13:25] 15th which is one of the reasons why one

[2:13:28] of my societies is booked

[2:13:31] um

[2:13:32] October I've scheduled

[2:13:36] uh

[2:13:38] a group to to come and help me paint the

[2:13:42] concession stands so high school into

[2:13:44] high school so if anyone else wants to

[2:13:46] come out and take pictures

[2:13:48] you're more than welcome to was that

[2:13:51] directed at all I think no it was right

[2:13:54] here it wasn't us

[2:13:55] that's why that's one reason to have

[2:13:59] some help okay all right a check write a

[2:14:03] check and he's writing the check

[2:14:05] that's the one reason

[2:14:08] I know that's it okay Somebody's gotta

[2:14:11] take pictures

[2:14:13] you have anything miss them oh I just um

[2:14:16] really enjoyed the presentation at the

[2:14:19] Mary McLeod Bethune statue

[2:14:22] um that was done and it's at The Tavares

[2:14:24] Museum and I hope that you'll go and and and to see it and see all of the

[2:14:30] history and the things that's presented

[2:14:32] with it

[2:14:33] um it's a beautiful presentation and the lady who sculpted it was there and

[2:14:39] we're fortunate because

[2:14:41] um we have there's only two tiny ones

[2:14:43] made smaller ones made and and

[2:14:45] fortunately Lake County has one and I'm

[2:14:47] sure the other was probably at the

[2:14:49] school but needless to say we have it

[2:14:52] and it's a wonderful wonderful

[2:14:53] presentation so I hope that you will

[2:14:55] Avail yourselves of it

[2:14:58] anything else that's it thank you Mr

[2:15:01] city manager uh yes couple of items

[2:15:05] um organizational grants we are ramping

[2:15:07] up to release our organizational Grant

[2:15:09] application

[2:15:10] we know that there are some changes this

[2:15:13] year one it's going to be a

[2:15:15] reimbursement this year so you have to

[2:15:17] perform as an organization before you

[2:15:19] get the reimbursement we also want

[2:15:22] presentations

[2:15:26] um at after the event or the effort is

[2:15:30] done we want presentations

[2:15:32] as to the impact of the grant

[2:15:36] we will provide all of the applications

[2:15:40] to the city commission for review I

[2:15:42] don't think in the past we've provided

[2:15:45] all of those applications so the one

[2:15:47] question I want to ask does the

[2:15:50] commission want presentations

[2:15:52] as part of the application process in

[2:15:55] other words all of the applicants come

[2:15:58] before the city commission to present

[2:16:01] their Grant applications

[2:16:02] that in the past we've had 15 19 20

[2:16:06] applicants so that would be a

[2:16:09] significant amount of time it might be a

[2:16:12] standalone Workshop because of the

[2:16:14] number of presentations but if that's

[2:16:16] the will of the city commission we're

[2:16:18] happy to set that up so we know we're

[2:16:21] going to get a presentation after the

[2:16:24] organization performs but do we want

[2:16:26] presentations

[2:16:28] upon application before they perform

[2:16:31] how about if we all read the

[2:16:33] applications and then we select the ones

[2:16:36] that we think would be most appropriate

[2:16:37] and then to view them

[2:16:40] so the commission would get all of the

[2:16:43] applications they would narrow down the

[2:16:45] pool and then bring in just those that

[2:16:47] they feel should be funded is that is

[2:16:50] that what you're saying that's a

[2:16:51] suggestion I'm not saying that's what we

[2:16:52] should we should have to do I also would

[2:16:54] want to know how many people are they

[2:16:57] serving how many in the community that

[2:16:59] they serve and reach you know you could

[2:17:01] do a grant and do five people I want to

[2:17:03] know that it was a significant amount of

[2:17:06] people that was impacted by whatever

[2:17:08] they did I'd like to know what they're

[2:17:09] going to do with the money and how are

[2:17:11] we represented as a sponsor as well sure

[2:17:13] and I so those that information is

[2:17:16] required as part so they have to tell us

[2:17:19] how many people they're impacting they

[2:17:21] have to tell us how they're going to

[2:17:22] spend the money they have to submit

[2:17:24] financials and you'll see all that as

[2:17:26] part of the applications yeah I think

[2:17:29] what I'd like is because we have a panel

[2:17:32] that that

[2:17:34] goes through and looks at him now we

[2:17:36] have traditionally had a staff review

[2:17:38] group who then makes a recommendation in

[2:17:40] the city commission that's how it's

[2:17:41] worked and I think what what I'd like to

[2:17:44] see is

[2:17:46] because I'm going to be honest with you

[2:17:48] I don't want to listen to 19 of anything

[2:17:51] now we're down yeah I'd like for the

[2:17:55] staff to to kind of narrow it down and

[2:17:58] they maybe have them come in yes yeah

[2:18:00] and I wouldn't be opposed to that yeah

[2:18:02] the candidates yeah yeah but I still

[2:18:05] like to see the applications right yes

[2:18:07] exactly so then if we had any questions

[2:18:09] for staff how did you derive

[2:18:11] okay we make us doing 19 you know

[2:18:16] 19 organizations coming before us and

[2:18:19] then we only pick the prime then yeah

[2:18:22] the other 14 think we stink so well if

[2:18:26] they said anyway yeah so okay so we'll

[2:18:28] get you all of the applications uh we'll

[2:18:31] narrow it down and then bring to you uh

[2:18:34] who we think are the finalists

[2:18:36] okay okay

[2:18:37] um the other uh item

[2:18:40] um I've I know I've committed to you to

[2:18:42] having a CRA review committee meeting I

[2:18:46] think the largest outstanding item is

[2:18:47] what are we going to do with the mode

[2:18:48] owned program uh and I've I've been

[2:18:51] looking at the calendar to try to get

[2:18:53] that scheduled

[2:18:55] um between uh police accreditation the

[2:18:58] mayor the police chief and I will be out

[2:18:59] of town that first week for a couple

[2:19:02] days that first week of October fra is

[2:19:05] the week after that so I actually

[2:19:09] um at one point I was going to suggest

[2:19:11] uh Tuesday October 4th but we just

[2:19:15] scheduled a workshop for the for October

[2:19:18] 3rd

[2:19:20] um and so I don't want to leave this

[2:19:21] hanging and I it's taken I need to get

[2:19:25] on top of this

[2:19:27] um

[2:19:28] because I know we have a couple of

[2:19:29] outstanding items uh what about Tuesday

[2:19:33] October went out that's not gonna

[2:19:35] Tuesday October 11th nope we have to start heading to Daytona yeah so I know we have two that would I

[2:19:45] mean what about the fifth an attempt

[2:19:49] I'm out of town we're out of town Tom

[2:19:52] and I are out of town yeah what about

[2:19:53] the fifth I mean we have the chamber

[2:19:55] breakfast

[2:19:56] I got it oh I didn't know how long you

[2:19:58] were okay yeah the fifth and the sixth

[2:20:00] back the evening of the sixth

[2:20:09] degree Development Association no we're

[2:20:12] gone that whole week

[2:20:14] yep and then the week after that are

[2:20:18] um the we're before the special

[2:20:20] magistrate for fire Union and then I

[2:20:24] have a deposition related to

[2:20:26] um a court case when do you when do you

[2:20:29] leave for the police accreditation the

[2:20:32] fifth

[2:20:33] yeah about that last week

[2:20:42] and I find them on the third

[2:20:44] is that too much time too much too much

[2:20:47] okay how much time are we gonna leave

[2:20:50] I probably about an hour I would think

[2:20:53] but I do also need to check availability

[2:20:55] for the appointees yeah uh who are

[2:20:58] obviously not here tonight

[2:21:01] October 24th

[2:21:04] 25th

[2:21:09] I'm okay with those two dates

[2:21:12] yeah I'm sorry when Monday October 24th

[2:21:16] or Tuesday October 25th yeah either one

[2:21:20] okay um if it's okay with you I will

[2:21:24] um we'll start with the 25th because I

[2:21:26] think we've done Tuesday nights in the

[2:21:27] past with this group I'll start with the

[2:21:29] 25th and uh try to confirm so okay

[2:21:35] uh I would expect this would be a 5 30.

[2:21:38] I think we have tried to do 5 30 with

[2:21:40] this group we have some people that work

[2:21:42] and

[2:21:43] um can be here by 5 30. Moda owns that

[2:21:46] we're just going

[2:21:47] yeah well it's it's a cre Review

[2:21:50] Committee update but the main

[2:21:51] outstanding item is mode to own

[2:21:54] so your 25th right Tuesday the 25th

[2:21:59] CRA review committee meeting

[2:22:01] together

[2:22:06] anything else Tom I'm sorry the only

[2:22:08] other item is We are continuing to work

[2:22:11] uh with fish and wildlife and waste

[2:22:13] management on the bearproof cans and we

[2:22:16] just need to make sure that Waste

[2:22:18] Management can work with what fish and

[2:22:20] wildlife has to offer so yeah it's

[2:22:22] speaking of that I think it would

[2:22:26] I don't know who was was it Mike

[2:22:28] yeah it still has the straps as well

[2:22:31] correct so we would still have to go out

[2:22:34] and talk to the residents they remembered it

[2:22:39] yeah the residents when they wheel the

[2:22:41] toter out they need to unbuckle or

[2:22:43] unstrap and it's recommended they do

[2:22:45] that the morning of trash pickup as

[2:22:47] opposed to the night before

[2:22:49] yeah as as Jose giving you a date when

[2:22:52] he wants to go out and not not yet not

[2:22:55] yet and I I need to get with uh Fisher

[2:22:58] Julie at Fish and Wildlife because she

[2:23:01] wasn't Julie

[2:23:03] okay I need to get with the

[2:23:05] representative from fish and one because

[2:23:06] they have the addresses of where these

[2:23:08] things okay yeah I know where they are

[2:23:10] okay there's only three

[2:23:12] all right that's all I have Madame

[2:23:15] attorney nothing for me all right

[2:23:18] yes ma'am sorry um no that's fine I just

[2:23:22] wanted to you know me and Leash we're

[2:23:25] doing a free microchip Clinic October

[2:23:28] 1st from 10 to noon at the Humane

[2:23:31] Society

[2:23:33] Umatilla address

[2:23:34] and the Humane Society is giving away

[2:23:37] free spay and neuter certificates for

[2:23:39] dogs for Lake County residents

[2:23:43] all right

[2:23:45] anything else that was it all right

[2:23:49] um quick things uh 911 service that uh

[2:23:53] City of Tavares and Lake County put on

[2:23:56] was outstanding several of us got to

[2:23:58] attend that I got to speak at that event

[2:24:00] very nice uh the Barry McLeod Bethune

[2:24:03] statue was just a great Gathering of

[2:24:06] folks from all over Lake County just an

[2:24:09] outstanding job was done that statue is

[2:24:13] carved out of the the same marble that

[2:24:17] is was used for the one that's in

[2:24:18] Washington DC it's statutorial hall now

[2:24:21] it also came out of the same Quarry that

[2:24:24] the statue of David came out of the

[2:24:27] statue is absolutely beautiful so if you

[2:24:29] can go over to the Old Lake County

[2:24:33] Courthouse the Historical Museum and see

[2:24:35] that statue

[2:24:37] as the start of September Comes Along we

[2:24:39] are slammed with things to do watch the

[2:24:42] Civic City website come out and enjoy uh

[2:24:46] our fall festivals and everything else

[2:24:48] we have to offer our staff does a great

[2:24:50] job putting those things on I want to

[2:24:53] thank you all for staying with us it's

[2:24:54] about 8 25 and we're going to be

[2:24:56] adjourned

[2:24:57] [Music]

Regular City Commission - 22 Sep 2022

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