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All right, meeting called to order. Time
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is now 7 o'clock. We'll start with the
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pledge of allegiance.
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I pledge algiance to the flag of the
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United States of America to the republic
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for which it stands. One nation under
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God, indivisible, with liberty and
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justice for all.
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The open meeting act is available on the
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public inspection on the table in the
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front of the room and a copy of the
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complete agenda and backup is available
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on the table in the center of the room.
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We'll go to roll call.
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Eight members are present. Mayor,
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>> thank you.
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Motion to adopt the current agenda for
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August 11th, 2026 regular city council
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meeting.
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» Councilman Vaughn.
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>> So moved.
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>> Councilman Jensen
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>> and seconded.
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» That motion carries 8 to zero.
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Okay,
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we got some appointments tonight. Item
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number two, motion to consent. Mayor's a
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reappointment to the creative council.
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Um, everybody's got a year
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term. Uh, it'll be Lindy Gen Genoix,
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Molly Payeyton, Laney Pquet, Katon
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Krakamire, Brenda Wilbering, Jennifer
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Dam, Lee Meyer, and Monica Ebie.
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There any questions or anything from
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council? If not, I'll take a motion.
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» Councilman her. Uh,
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>> yes. I'll make a motion to um um approve
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the um mayor's reappoints to the
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creative council.
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>> Councilman or Councilwoman Gana.
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>> I second.
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» That motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor
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Thank you. Item number three, motion to
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confirm appointment of Garrett Jensen to
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the police sergeants per mayor's
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recommendation.
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Uh the civil service commission provided
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a qualified candidates for us. There
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were three of them and came down to car
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to Garrett Jensen.
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Staff
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>> Jennifer, deputy chief of police. Thank
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you again for the opportunity to be here
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and speak to you tonight about the
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promotion or potential promotion of here
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at Jensen. The promotional process can
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be lengthy and stressful for every
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officer involved. Yet, it consistently
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highlights the strength and dedication
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with within our department. This most
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recent process produced an outstanding
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list of officers who are ready and
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willing to help lead the city of Fremont
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and our department into the future.
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Currently, at the top of that list is
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Officer Jensen. As you consider
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promoting him, we'd like to take a
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moment to help you get to know him a
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little better. Officer Jensen joined the
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Fremont Police Department in October of
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2019. As an officer in the patrol
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division, he worked night shift
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throughout his career. In 2022, Officer
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Jensen joined the emergency response
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unit and is now a team sniper for the
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unit. In 2024, he became a field
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training officer. He recently completed
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an instructor level course in police
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response to active shooter uh to assist
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the department in training officers in
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tactics and proper response to these
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situations. Officer Jensen graduated
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from Lions Dear Northeast High School in
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2007 and in 2012 he earned his
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bachelor's degree in business
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administration from UNL. During his
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service at the Fremont Police
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Department, Officer Jensen has earned
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multiple recognitions for outstanding
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performance. One such commendation
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stemmed from an attempted robbery in
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which employees had been locked inside a
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freezer. Demonstrating bravery, Officer
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Jensen and Sergeant and his sergeant
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entered the restaurant through the
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drive-through window. I'm sorry,
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conducted a search for suspects and
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safely freed the employees. Officer
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Jensen is most proud of his service on
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the ERU and being appointed as the team
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sniper. He is also proud of becoming a
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response active shooter instructor and
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field training officer. Joining Officer
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Jensen today for the pinning ceremony
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are his wife Taylor and his son Maddox.
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Questions from council.
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» Okay. Thank you.
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I'll take a motion.
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» Councilman Jensen.
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>> I'll make the motion to confirm him. And
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I will just state for the record that
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offer Jensen and myself are not related
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in any way.
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>> Councilman Horner,
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>> I'll second.
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» That motion carries eight to zero.
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Mayor.
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>> All right. Thank you.
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that you have voted. Uh joining officer
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Jensen today for the pinning ceremony
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are his wife Taylor and his son Maddox.
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His parents Stephen and Lori and his
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father and mother-in-law Richard and
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Denise are also present. Pinning his
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badge will be his wife Taylor.
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Okay, on to public hearings. Item number
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four, resolution 2026-199,
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making a recommendation for a class D
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liquor license application of Casey's
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Retail Company, DBA Casey's number 4670
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located at 730 Boulevard. Staff,
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>> thank you, Mayor. Michael Chhaterson,
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city clerk. Uh this is a new uh liquor
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license application for the Casey's that
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is going in uh there off Morningside
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Road off the uh 275 bypass. Um this will
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be for a class D liquor license. Uh
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council can
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effectively do one of three things. They
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can make a recommendation of approval,
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no recommendation, or make a
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recommendation to deny to the liquor
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control commission. Um at which point
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the control the liquor control
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commission will do whatever council kind
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of effectuates from that regard. Um, so
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I can take any questions, from council.
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Okay, seeing none, I'll go to uh open
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the public hearing.
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» Seeing none, I'll close the public
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hearing. Come down to council for a
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motion or any discussion.
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Councilman Vaughn,
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>> I've received assurances that they will
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have the pizza that I love. So, I will
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make that recommendation approved.
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Councilman her
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>> and I'll second that with the pizza
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especially.
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» That motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor.
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>> Okay. Thank you. On the consent agenda,
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all items on the consent agenda are
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considered to be routine by the city
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council and will be acted by enacted by
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one motion. There will be no separate
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discussion of these items less a C
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council member or staff so request in
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which the item will be removed from the
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consent agenda and considered
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separately.
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>> Anything on consent to be removed?
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Counciloman Le.
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>> I'd like to remove number 17, please
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» number seven.
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Can we remove item 11, please, mayor?
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» Anybody else?
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If not, I'll take a motion uh pass the
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consent agenda minus items 7, 11,
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and 17.
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>> Councilman her.
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>> I'll make the motion to approve the
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consent agenda minus 7, items 7, 11, and
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17.
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>> Councilman Jensen, and I'll second.
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That motion carries 8 to zero, mayor.
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>> Okay, thank you.
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Item seven, motion to receive the report of the treasury,
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» honorable council,
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honorable mayor, Jennifer Nab, finance
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director. Um, we have for you the report
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of the treasury. This is the report that
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shows the change in our balances for all
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of our different accounts and
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investments. And I am available for any
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questions you may have.
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>> Questions from councel.
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» It's such an important item that it's
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good to hear a summary if you would give
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a summary for that. And I know we've
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read the report. It's just good to have
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it public as well. Thank you. Any
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other questions from council?
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» I'll take comments from the public.
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Seeing none, I'll close the public
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comment and go back to council for a
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motion or any other discussion.
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Councilwoman
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Gan
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>> I move we [clears throat] excuse me I
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make a motion to receive the treasury
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report
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>> second
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that motion carries 8 to zero mayor
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Okay. Item number 11, resolution
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2026-197,
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authorizing the renewal of all existing
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class C liquor license through October
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31st, 2027.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Thank you, Mayor Michael Chatterson,
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city clerk. This is the resolution to
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approve all existing uh liquor license
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class C's. Um, the reason I wanted to
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discuss further was we I was uh I I was
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aware that we made a mistake on one of
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the addresses for Renita's. We still
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have them listed at 343 North Main.
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They've since moved in the last few
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weeks. Um, so we'll need to amend that.
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So, if I could get a motion to amend
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that um address on our resolution, we'll
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get that. We should be good to go
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otherwise.
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>> Okay.
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Question or council? Uh, Councilman
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Jensen,
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>> I'll I'll make the motion to amend as as
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needed.
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>> Councilman Hero,
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>> I'll second the motion to amend.
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» That motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor,
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» uh, any comments from
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the public.
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Seeing none, I'll close it. I'll take a
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motion as amended.
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» Councilman Vaughn,
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>> make motion to approve as amended.
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>> Councilman Marsh.
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>> Second.
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That motion carries 8 to zero.
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Okay, thank you.
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>> Item 17, resolution 2026-204,
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awarding the funding for downtown
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project for downtown revital
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revitalization community development
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block grant at 311 North Main Street in
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the amount of 22,938.75.
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Good evening, honorable mayor, city
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council, Angie Olsen, grant coordinator.
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We've received an application for the
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downtown facade improvements program
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from the address of 311 North Main
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Street that's owned by Todd Hoppy and
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Trisha Dorfmeer who are in attendance
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with us tonight. Uh their project
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estimate is just over $30,000. There is
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a 25% match requirement for this
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program. So that brings their request to
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right around um $23,000.
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Their project is um for the front of 311
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Maine. Originally, they wanted to have a
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recessed interior which would take it
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back to um the uh historical look of the
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building. However, that was very
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complicated process. And um their your
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packet includes a letter from an
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engineer stating um that will be a a a
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difficult task and they did reach out to
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multiple contracts contractors who were
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not willing to take that on. However, um
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they are going to restore the front um
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as is kind of flat uh to Main Street and
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I'm here to answer any questions you
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might have.
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Uh, Councilwoman Lethra,
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>> I don't have any questions, but I I just
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wanted to say that it's wonderful that
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they're taking advantage of this great
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opportunity. Um, restoring the downtown.
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They are doing a fabulous job on that
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building down there and I want to thank
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them for that. Um, I also would like to
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say that there are additional funds
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available in this program and maybe
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Angie could expand on that just a little
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bit.
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>> Yeah, sure. So, we um have about
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$200,000 left in this program. As uh you
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might remember, we did extend it um
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originally was set to expire in May of
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2026. So, we've extended it to May of
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2027. And um we are having some internal
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discussions of if um we don't have
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applicants come forward what we might
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use those funds for. Uh we would need to
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work with the state and make sure that
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um our projects are uh eligible and
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within um their standards. Uh but it
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might look like some street sidewalk
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improvements, ADA accessibility,
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something like that in the downtown
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area. But if there are any applicants
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interested, um it's a great time to
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apply. Um the applicants tonight
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actually also received funding for 307
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North Main Street and um they've been
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working hard on that one as well.
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>> Thank you.
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>> Any other questions from council?
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Okay.
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>> Uh comments from the public?
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Seeing none, I'll close that and come
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back for Oh, come on up.
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Todd, 1225 County Road Y. Um, no real
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comments. I handed out two packets of uh
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pictures. Uh, I wanted to let you see
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when I bought it is on the front and if
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you go through you see the stages on the
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front windows on the top story they're
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in and the bottom is boarded up and
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tomorrow they're measuring to put the
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first ones in at 309. Once we get that
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then we'll move our boards to the north
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and do the 311 you guys are doing
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tonight. I also included the backside
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which your grant didn't have, but you
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can see what ugly we had. We've removed
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all that. Uh it's coming along great.
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We'll have uh six apartments rented out
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by the end of the year. Um
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couldn't go any better. This grant
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helped us a lot. Otherwise, we're doing
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it out of our front pocket. It's a lot
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easier when we have funds allotted to us
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then uh we pay it off because the banks
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are a lot easier to look at a finished
[32:49]
product instead of
[32:51]
putting money behind us. Will the
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project get done? So, thank you for what
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you guys are doing. That's all I got.
[32:58]
>> Thank you.
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>> We need a motion to receive
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information. Councilman her
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>> I'll make a motion to receive.
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I want to lay through a second.
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That motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor
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Councilman
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Jensen, you have something?
[34:02]
>> Yes. If there's no further discussion,
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then make the motion to approve the
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resolution.
[34:07]
>> I still got to go to public.
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» All right. I'll take any comments from
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the public.
[34:16]
>> Seeing none, I'll come back to council
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for a motion.
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Councilman Jensen,
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>> I'll make the motion to approve
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resolution 2026-204.
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Councilman
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>> Vaughn, I will second.
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That motion carries 8 to zero, mayor.
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[clears throat] Okay, thank you. On to
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new business, item 18, ordinance 57 to
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53 for approval of utilities salary
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ordinance. First reading.
[34:55]
Good evening, mayor and city council.
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Jennifer McDuffy, director of human
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resources. Um we are getting looking at
[35:01]
starting the new fiscal year. So that
[35:03]
means when we have to take a look at
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wages um this is the proposed salary
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ordinance for the utility side of the
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organization. Um it would take effect
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the pay period that includes October 1st
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and has a 2 and a half% increase across
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the board which matches the IBW
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collective bargaining agreement was
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approved. That was last year.
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» Any questions from council?
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» Councilman Jensen. This is by contract.
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Is that not correct? I mean, we've got
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to match this up. This is this is funds
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that were already been been uh allocated
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and and this is our path forward.
[35:45]
Correct.
[35:46]
>> So, it's it's two and a half% for
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everyone. That includes those that are
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in the in the bargaining unit and those
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that are not the bargaining
[35:54]
Um the bargaining unit has been
[35:56]
contracted. The non-bargaining unit
[35:58]
funds were budgeted with the budget. So
[36:00]
we did include that
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budget.
[36:06]
Any other questions from council?
[36:12]
Okay. I'll take public comment.
[36:17]
Seeing none, I'll come back to council
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for a motion or any other discussion.
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Councilman Horner.
[36:23]
>> If there's no further discussion, I
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would make the motion that we approve
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the first reading for ordinance 5753.
[36:30]
>> Councilwoman Le and I'll second.
[36:38]
» That motion carries 8 to zero.
[36:41]
Ordinance number 5753, an ordinance of
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the city of Fremont, Nebraska,
[36:45]
pertaining to pay plan for officers and
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employees, repealing ordinance number
[36:47]
5740 and all other ordinances and parts
[36:49]
of ordinances in conflict with providing
[36:51]
for publication plan form providing for
[36:53]
an effect and providing for an effective
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date first reading.
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Councilman Horner.
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>> Um, if there's no reason for us not to
[37:07]
do this and since it's a contractual
[37:09]
matter and we've already decided that, I
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would like to make the motion that we
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suspend the rules and move this to third
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and final reading.
[37:19]
>> Councilman uh gentleman
[37:22]
>> and I second that.
[37:30]
» That motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor
[37:33]
Ordinance number 5753, an ordinance of
[37:35]
the city of Fremont, Nebraska pertaining
[37:37]
to pay plan for officers and employees
[37:38]
appealing ordinance number 5740 and all
[37:40]
other ordinances parts of ordinance is
[37:41]
in conflict here with providing for
[37:42]
publication plan performance providing
[37:44]
for an effect. Final reading
[37:48]
cast final vote.
[37:54]
[clears throat]
[37:54]
>> That motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor,
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ordinance number 5753 is approved.
[38:00]
>> Thank you.
[38:04]
Item 19, ordinance 5754 for approval of
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government salary ordinance. First
[38:08]
reading.
[38:15]
» Jennifer McDuffy, director of human
[38:17]
resources. Um, this is the salary for
[38:20]
the city side of the house. Um, again,
[38:23]
two and a half%. This covers the
[38:24]
non-bargaining unit and what was
[38:26]
contractually agreed upon in the FOPF.
[38:30]
asked me collective bargaining
[38:31]
agreements last year. Same effective
[38:33]
date.
[38:36]
» Any questions from council?
[38:42]
» Any comments from the public?
[38:45]
>> I'll come back to council for a motion.
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Councilman vaugh.
[38:52]
>> Motion to approve.
[38:55]
Councilman
[38:56]
>> her. I'll second.
[39:02]
That motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor,
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ordinance number 5754, an ordinance of
[39:07]
the city of Fremont, Nebraska,
[39:08]
pertaining to pay plan for officers and
[39:10]
employees repealing ordinance number
[39:11]
5725 and all of their ordinances or
[39:13]
parts of ordinances conflict here with
[39:15]
writing for publication and performed
[39:16]
writing for an effective date first
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reading.
[39:25]
Uh, Councilman Vaughn,
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>> any reason not to move this third and
[39:28]
final as well?
[39:29]
>> Not to my knowledge.
[39:30]
>> I'll make that motion.
[39:33]
>> Councilman Johnson,
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>> and I will second.
[39:43]
» The motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor
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Ordinance number 5754 and ordinance of
[39:47]
the city of Fremont, Nebraska pertaining
[39:48]
to pay plan for officers and employees
[39:50]
appealing ordinance number 5725 and all
[39:52]
other ordinances and parts of ordinances
[39:53]
in conflict with providing for
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publication form providing for an effect
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to date final reading.
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Cash final vote.
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» That motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor
[40:10]
ordinance number 5754 is approved.
[40:14]
Thank you.
[40:16]
Uh item 20, ordinance 575, revising FMC
[40:21]
2-103 and eliminating an open public
[40:23]
comment period to comply with the
[40:24]
openness meeting act. First reading.
[40:28]
Yeah.
[40:29]
>> Thank you, mayor, members of city
[40:30]
council. Travis Jott, city attorney. Um
[40:33]
this was brought up following our last
[40:35]
meeting. There was a complaint filed by
[40:37]
a citizen alleging that our open
[40:39]
meetings act as it is currently set up
[40:43]
violates the open meetings act. Um
[40:47]
we took a look at it and we've been
[40:49]
advising now that having a comment
[40:52]
period where items are not noticed on
[40:54]
the agenda could be a violation of open.
[40:57]
So really when you look at the analysis
[41:00]
um there are three steps. We got to
[41:01]
determine whether a meeting has taken
[41:03]
place and when there's a more than a
[41:05]
quorum of the council present and we're
[41:08]
discussing city business being briefed
[41:11]
on anything taking city action that
[41:14]
would constitute a meeting. So I think
[41:16]
there's no doubt that having the council
[41:18]
here listening to comment would
[41:20]
constitute a meeting. The second thing
[41:23]
we want to look at is whether there was
[41:25]
advanced publicized notice of that
[41:27]
meeting. And we currently let the public
[41:29]
know that we are having a public comment
[41:32]
period at 6:30. Um but we don't let them
[41:35]
know what is going to be discussed. And
[41:37]
that's really the third element is we
[41:38]
have to have advanced publicized notice
[41:40]
of the topics for discussion. Um and
[41:43]
that would be a description on an
[41:44]
agenda. Um this issue has come up in the
[41:48]
past with Fremont. Um there's been some
[41:51]
previous attorney general disposition
[41:53]
letters that has discussed this issue
[41:56]
following complaints that were filed by
[41:58]
citizens on various issues. Um, there
[42:01]
was one disposition letter in particular
[42:04]
that dealt with our utility and
[42:06]
infrastructure board where the attorney
[42:09]
general, assistant attorney general that
[42:11]
worked on that complaint said that it
[42:13]
was not a violation to have the when the
[42:15]
public comments on items not on the
[42:17]
agenda.
[42:19]
That to me does not protect the city
[42:21]
completely from any potential liability
[42:23]
for a violation under the act.
[42:26]
A disposition letter handles a
[42:28]
complaint. There's still an attorney
[42:30]
general opinion that could also be
[42:32]
provided, which we haven't sought for
[42:34]
this issue. Typically, that would be
[42:36]
provided when there's multiple
[42:38]
municipalities and public bodies that
[42:40]
face the same issue. The attorney
[42:42]
general will come out with a with an
[42:43]
opinion on that. And none of the
[42:46]
previous dispositions have discussed the
[42:48]
particular issue of advanced publicized
[42:50]
notice of public comments from the
[42:53]
public. So this is really the start of
[42:56]
what I would like to do is discuss
[42:59]
different methods of permitting public
[43:01]
comment that would comply with the act
[43:04]
as it's written right now. We believe it
[43:05]
violates the open meetings act. I know
[43:07]
when you go down to talk to members of
[43:09]
the league municipal municipalities they
[43:11]
would agree. Um
[43:13]
so we've come up with this first step is
[43:16]
to eliminate it as it stands right now.
[43:19]
The second step would be to come up with
[43:22]
a new format. And what I've proposed in
[43:24]
the past is members of the public are
[43:27]
permitted to add items to the agenda for
[43:30]
anything that they would want to
[43:31]
discuss. And that would actually, I
[43:34]
think, benefit the council and members
[43:36]
of the public in multiple ways. One is
[43:38]
the council would be able to engage in a
[43:41]
discussion with that member of the
[43:42]
public on whatever that topic is because
[43:44]
it has been properly noticed. and number
[43:46]
two, the other members of the public
[43:49]
would know what is going to be briefed
[43:51]
or discussed in front of the council.
[43:53]
So, we think that would be a much better
[43:55]
approach. We think that would comply
[43:57]
with the open meetings act there. The
[43:59]
current public comment period that isn't
[44:02]
properly noticed where uh with the
[44:04]
description of what's going to be
[44:05]
discussed, there's no action taken right
[44:07]
now. So, it would be difficult for any
[44:10]
claimant to try to undo an action that
[44:13]
was done, but we still want to make sure
[44:15]
we're complying with the act. And I
[44:17]
think allowing members of the public to
[44:19]
submit items ahead of time would uh
[44:22]
still fulfill the spirit of allowing the
[44:24]
public to speak.
[44:27]
>> With that, I'm here to answer any
[44:28]
questions. I know there's a lot of
[44:29]
interested people here to speak on this.
[44:31]
>> Councilman Councilman her.
[44:34]
>> Uh, thank you, Mayor. Um, Travis, I know
[44:37]
you and I have talked about this a
[44:38]
little bit and I really appreciate you
[44:40]
bringing it forward. I honestly do. Um,
[44:42]
I think it's time we have had these
[44:44]
discussions and I think it's time we do
[44:46]
move this to the public arena so that we
[44:49]
can we can hash it out and and hopefully
[44:52]
get it right. Um, I I agree with you
[44:55]
that I from from what I've been able to
[44:58]
the short time I've had this and been
[45:00]
able to consider it, I agree with you
[45:01]
that we are under the present format. I
[45:04]
think we are probably in violation
[45:06]
because of the way we do it. Um, I have
[45:09]
found about five other communities that
[45:13]
seem to be doing
[45:15]
what we were doing with one caveat. I'll
[45:18]
get to that in a second, but Lincoln has
[45:21]
a um they call it something
[45:26]
different, but they have a basically a
[45:27]
public comment period. Um, so does L
[45:30]
Vista, so does Pilion.
[45:33]
um Arie, Norfolk,
[45:36]
and those were just the five that I
[45:38]
found real quick. Um you know, doing my keyboard warrior routine. Um
[45:45]
but anyways, you know, the one striking
[45:47]
difference in what they're doing versus
[45:49]
what we're not is that theirs are an
[45:53]
official part of the agenda
[45:55]
>> as public comments and theirs um um
[45:59]
comes after the meeting's been called to
[46:01]
order. um hours. That's the one striking
[46:04]
difference is that it's before we call
[46:08]
the meeting to order. And you know, as
[46:11]
if it's not part of the meeting,
[46:12]
although it it it it actually is part of
[46:14]
the meeting. It's just before we call
[46:17]
the meeting to order. Um and and I think
[46:19]
that's a bit of a technicality um that
[46:22]
we can fix. I would rather do that than
[46:25]
I would see to strike and kill this. I
[46:27]
think it's just too important um to the
[46:31]
citizens of Fremont to um have the Now, the one thing I do want to make
[46:37]
clear too is that this is not killing
[46:39]
access. If we were to do this, if for
[46:41]
some reason, guys, we were to do this.
[46:43]
doesn't kill access.
[46:45]
You can go out on our website and you
[46:47]
can find eight phone numbers to call
[46:48]
these people right here. You can find
[46:50]
the mayor's phone number. You can find
[46:52]
Jod's. You can find Travis yours. You
[46:54]
can find everybody's phone number.
[46:56]
There's access all over the place. Okay.
[46:59]
The difference though in this, and this
[47:01]
is where I think it's key, the
[47:03]
difference is it's face toface. You can
[47:05]
come and you can orally present your
[47:07]
case and sometimes people just feel they
[47:10]
need to do that. And I think we need to
[47:13]
continue to provide that outlet. We have
[47:16]
to comply. So, we've got to figure that
[47:18]
piece out. So, I'm gonna I do have some
[47:21]
thoughts on that, but I'm going to stop
[47:23]
because I know there's a lot of other
[47:25]
people talking.
[47:27]
Councilwoman,
[47:31]
» okay, I get to talk second. That's
[47:33]
great. Uh, we need to be finding ways
[47:37]
for our bosses, which are our taxpayers,
[47:39]
which are you, the opportunity to share
[47:42]
their thoughts with us. And so, it's
[47:45]
important that we find opportunities as
[47:48]
our councilman her projected and I had
[47:52]
found the same thing. I did go out and
[47:55]
check and yes, Lincoln is at the very
[47:58]
end public comment. Anyone wishing to
[48:01]
address the council on items that are on
[48:04]
the agenda or not on the agenda and may
[48:08]
not appear on future agendas can do an
[48:10]
open mic session is what they call it,
[48:13]
but at least they're allowed total of
[48:15]
five minutes. So there's a time frame
[48:17]
again. And so for the month of August,
[48:20]
they it was August 10th and August 31st
[48:23]
this year. I also found a couple others.
[48:25]
You probably found the same two. Nor
[48:30]
has it. And again, it was uh August 3rd
[48:34]
meeting of Norfork City Council. Item
[48:37]
number five says public comment period.
[48:41]
So on August 4th, Gretna City Council
[48:44]
meeting, item number three is public
[48:46]
comment.
[48:48]
And Councilman her pointed out the main
[48:50]
difference it's on their agenda. It's
[48:54]
not a it's not before our official
[48:58]
meeting. So when we have all of us
[49:00]
together that's constitutes a meeting
[49:04]
and we are not abiding by that. I think
[49:07]
we need to I do believe we need to abide
[49:09]
by it. But before we do, we need to find
[49:13]
ways and opportunities to have public
[49:16]
have their their thoughts and speech
[49:20]
heard by all of us. So, we need to
[49:23]
continue finding ways to have public comment.
[49:33]
» Okay.
[49:36]
Councilman Jensen,
[49:38]
>> um I agree with most of what's been
[49:40]
said. So far, I guess I'll say I'm the
[49:43]
only one sitting here on council was
[49:45]
actually on this council when this when
[49:47]
this ordinance was brought forward. And
[49:50]
uh I'll be honest, I've been a little
[49:52]
disappointed in what it's evolved into.
[49:55]
I I think we can do it better. I think
[49:57]
we need to do something, but we need to
[49:58]
do better than what we're doing right
[49:59]
now.
[50:02]
>> Councilman von Baron. Yeah, this is I
[50:05]
know we've all invested a lot of time in
[50:07]
this one because it's a this this one
[50:10]
has a long tail. It probably actually
[50:13]
goes back to somewhere around 2008.
[50:15]
That's [snorts] there's a lot of history
[50:17]
behind that. But I think what's
[50:20]
sensitive here is there have been
[50:21]
multiple attempts to eliminate public
[50:24]
comment. And I think what's even been
[50:28]
more frustrating, there have been
[50:31]
multiple requests, multiple suggestions
[50:34]
as to how to improve public comment. And
[50:37]
I think we as a city have to admit that
[50:40]
we have done nothing to improve the
[50:42]
process. We've done nothing to provide a
[50:44]
response. We've let people come and sit
[50:46]
and feel like they've been ignored and
[50:49]
then we've made attempts to get rid of
[50:51]
this process. I think we need to be
[50:53]
sensitive to the fact that that has
[50:55]
presented a very bad image of what we
[50:58]
are and what we're trying to accomplish.
[51:00]
Two years ago, Travis, I brought your
[51:03]
suggestion to the council that we let
[51:05]
the public put items on the agenda. I
[51:08]
think that was a 7 to1 vote. That didn't
[51:11]
see the light of day. I could not
[51:13]
understand why the public couldn't bring
[51:15]
forth an item, but we brought we brought
[51:16]
that almost that exact motion and it got
[51:19]
voted down soundly. So, I think one of
[51:22]
the lessons here, and I'm glad this is
[51:25]
coming up again, but this is not a new
[51:27]
issue, and at some point, if we're going
[51:30]
to look at abolishing this, we better
[51:33]
come up with something that's
[51:35]
acceptable, that's at least as good,
[51:37]
where the public is not restricted as
[51:39]
proposed right now. One of the
[51:41]
consequences, if we're not careful, all
[51:43]
they're going to comment on is what we
[51:45]
want to talk about, what's on the
[51:47]
agenda. And we need to be very cons care
[51:50]
careful of that. And I I don't I
[51:54]
understand our intent and this precedes
[51:56]
any of us here, but I also understand
[51:58]
the skepticism. So, thank you,
[52:02]
>> Councilman Marsh.
[52:04]
>> You pretty much stole the words right
[52:06]
out of my mouth for everything you said
[52:07]
there. And I guess I would like to
[52:08]
anytime you read something that says
[52:10]
taking away someone's voice, if they
[52:13]
have never been to one of those public
[52:14]
comments sections, it's it's very
[52:16]
awkward. Someone else mentioned that is
[52:19]
um maybe get here late or didn't realize
[52:21]
that that we cannot respond and they
[52:23]
come up and and plead their case and we
[52:24]
sit there and nod our head and make our
[52:26]
notes and they walk away and they have
[52:27]
no idea if we even agree or or we're
[52:30]
accepting what they're saying and
[52:32]
there's no worse feeling than not being
[52:33]
heard and uh so we certainly need to
[52:35]
look at this that's for sure.
[52:43]
Um, so I've spoken with all of the
[52:46]
members of the council and um,
[52:50]
generally we all agree that we don't
[52:53]
want to take anyone's voice away. It's
[52:56]
just a different format that we are
[52:59]
having to present it, give you the
[53:02]
opportunity to speak. So it's not taking
[53:05]
it away. Um there's been stuff all over
[53:09]
social media saying that we wanted to
[53:12]
quiet the constituents. That is so not
[53:15]
true. Um we want to hear from people. Um
[53:20]
we do however want it done in a way that
[53:25]
the staff, the council are not being
[53:28]
attacked. Um there's there's just really
[53:32]
no room for that. I think people can
[53:34]
make their point without attacking
[53:37]
anybody up here or anybody on the staff.
[53:40]
So I think we all need to be, you know,
[53:44]
conscious of that.
[53:51]
Marin, did you have Okay.
[53:56]
Anybody else?
[54:00]
I'll take public comment.
[54:06]
I got five for this.
[54:12]
» All right, Scott Preston, 1717 East 12th
[54:14]
Street. I'm going to go just a hair off
[54:15]
my script because I do have the five
[54:16]
minutes. First of all, um about the the
[54:19]
comment regarding uh city employees and attacking. I agree with you. City of
[54:23]
Lexington solves that by saying in the agenda that public comment is
[54:28]
allowed but uh you may not attack any
[54:31]
city employee. They cover that. They do
[54:33]
it in that way. So it can be done on the
[54:35]
regular agenda. Now so the staff report
[54:37]
was clear in its reasoning for ordinance
[54:40]
5755 to directly quote the council. Uh
[54:43]
we would need advanced publicized notice
[54:45]
of the topics to be discussed as
[54:47]
required by 84-1411E.
[54:50]
This does not happen under the format
[54:51]
described in FM FMC2-103
[54:54]
and the same should be eliminated to
[54:56]
comply with Nebraska law. Now, he
[54:58]
referenced and I have right here with me
[55:00]
and sent to your emails today a scan
[55:02]
copy of a letter that the attorney
[55:04]
general and assistant attorney general
[55:06]
wrote to Susan Jacobus on November 19th,
[55:08]
2018. At that time, M. Jacobus was
[55:11]
concerned that a member of the public
[55:12]
was permitted to comment during a
[55:14]
utility and infrastructure board meeting
[55:15]
on a topic without that item or public
[55:18]
comment being on the agenda. And the
[55:20]
response that uh that that he gave was was lengthy and there were several
[55:24]
other issues involved. But the key point
[55:26]
uh has very very clear language. It says
[55:29]
we understand that the board allows
[55:31]
public comment at each of its meetings.
[55:33]
Its agendas should so reflect. We would
[55:36]
instruct the board to add an agenda item
[55:38]
to its meetings for public comment to
[55:40]
properly alert members of the public
[55:42]
that they will be permitted to address
[55:43]
the board at its meetings. The board,
[55:45]
however, may allow members of the public
[55:47]
to address it on any topic and is not
[55:50]
required to limit public comment only to
[55:52]
items found on the agenda, provided that
[55:54]
the public comment period itself is on
[55:57]
the agenda. I want to repeat that last
[55:58]
line. It's very clear. The board,
[56:01]
however, may allow members of the public
[56:03]
to address it on any topic and is not
[56:06]
required to limit public comment only to
[56:09]
items found on the agenda, provided that
[56:11]
the public comment period itself is not
[56:14]
or is on the agenda. And when it comes
[56:16]
to the staff report, it seems to be
[56:18]
heavily leaning on this excerpt from
[56:20]
84-1411E.
[56:23]
quote, "Agenda items shall be
[56:25]
sufficiently descriptive to give the
[56:26]
public reasonable notice of the matters
[56:29]
to be considered at the meeting." And I
[56:31]
want you to know that that particular
[56:33]
passage was added to the Open Meetings
[56:35]
Act in 2006, 12 years prior to the
[56:39]
Attorney General's letter. The AG's
[56:41]
office would have been well aware of
[56:42]
that change and didn't view it as an
[56:45]
impediment to open public comment
[56:47]
properly put on the agenda. I'd like to
[56:50]
add that I'd like to thank you for
[56:51]
mentioning Lincoln uh in in this
[56:53]
discussion because I reached out to the
[56:56]
Lincoln City Attorney's Office and I did
[56:58]
hear from Chris Connelly, the assistant
[57:00]
city attorney. I asked if they had any
[57:02]
concerns about the legality of having
[57:05]
open public comment and and I did get
[57:07]
here was his quote. He said that he was
[57:09]
not aware of any complaints to our
[57:12]
office or concerns from anyone that our
[57:16]
open public comment sessions are
[57:18]
illegal. And also I'd note that the
[57:20]
views of Adams and Sullivan here are not
[57:21]
shared by all Nebraska attorneys. The
[57:24]
Nebraska law firm Rimol Luki wrote in
[57:26]
2024 that to comply with the open
[57:29]
meetings act as amended, public bodies
[57:31]
should include an open mic public
[57:33]
comment period at every public meeting.
[57:35]
Now, I don't necessarily agree with that
[57:37]
interpretation 100%. But you guys should
[57:40]
know that there are other
[57:41]
interpretations of this statute out
[57:43]
there. And now, usually I come before
[57:46]
you to complain. But tonight, I think
[57:49]
there's a relatively simple solution. We
[57:51]
need to bring public comment onto the
[57:53]
regular agenda in the way that Lincoln
[57:55]
does and and Scotsluff and all the other
[57:57]
cities that you mentioned. Set a three
[57:59]
minute per person rule. Cap the time at
[58:01]
30 minutes, and during most meetings,
[58:02]
you'll be able to move on in less than
[58:04]
10 minutes. I've been here for the
[58:05]
public comment period before. Sometimes
[58:07]
only two or three folks. And you know,
[58:10]
the law can be followed, the public can
[58:12]
be heard, and we're going to save you
[58:14]
some time in the process because if
[58:16]
nobody's here, nobody signs up, just
[58:17]
move on, and you don't have to look at
[58:19]
each other for a half an hour. Um, it's a win all around. So, I think you
[58:23]
need to vote no on this ordinance
[58:24]
tonight. Take it back to the drawing
[58:26]
board because we can and certainly
[58:27]
should do better. Thank you.
[58:30]
>> Thank you. [clears throat] Anybody
[58:34]
else?
[58:39]
Please state your name and address,
[58:40]
please.
[58:42]
>> Jonathan Shahan, 1205, County Roadex,
[58:45]
Fremont, Nebraska. Earlier today, my
[58:47]
signed written objection to ordinance
[58:49]
number 5755 was provided by email to
[58:52]
every member of the city council, the
[58:53]
mayor, and the city clerk. Before this
[58:55]
meeting began, I also delivered a paper
[58:57]
copy directly to the city clerk. I am
[58:59]
now presenting that written objection in
[59:01]
connection with this agenda item and ask
[59:03]
that it be retained as part of the
[59:05]
record and reflected in the minutes. The
[59:07]
central point of that objection is
[59:09]
simple. Eliminating Fremont's regular
[59:11]
public comment period is not required by
[59:13]
the Nebraska Open Meetings Act. At the
[59:16]
last city council meeting, a citizen
[59:17]
objected to the way Fremont was
[59:19]
conducting public comment. That
[59:21]
procedural problem can be fixed.
[59:23]
Instead, the city is using that
[59:25]
procedural issue as justification to
[59:27]
eliminate Fremont's regular public
[59:29]
comment period altogether. Those are two
[59:31]
completely different things. The city
[59:33]
can comply with the open meetings act
[59:35]
without taking away the public's regular
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opportunity to address the council. If
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this ordinance passes, it will not be
[59:42]
because state law required it. It will
[59:44]
be because the city council chose to
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silence the constituents who elected
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them. Make no mistake, this is a policy
[59:50]
decision. The question is simple. Should
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citizens continue to have a regular
[59:54]
opport to have a regular opportunity to
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come before their elected
[59:57]
representatives and be heard or will the
[59:59]
members of the city council based on
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legal advice that misstates what the
[1:00:04]
open meetings act requires decide that
[1:00:06]
access to your elected officials should
[1:00:08]
be taken away. Do not let the
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elimination of Fremont's regular public
[1:00:13]
comment period be sold to the public as
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something required by the Nebraska Open
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Meetings Act. It isn't. Thank you.
[1:00:20]
>> Thank you.
[1:00:22]
Anybody else?
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» Your name and address, please.
[1:00:32]
>> Don Atwell, 1650 North Broad Street,
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Fremont, Nebraska. Thank you for hearing
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my concern, council. Mr. Mayor, uh, I do
[1:00:42]
not pretend to know, I'm not a lawyer. I
[1:00:44]
don't pretend to know all the rules and
[1:00:46]
laws concerning public meetings.
[1:00:48]
understand that local laws uh must be in
[1:00:51]
compliance with state laws and higher
[1:00:52]
authorities. That's understandable.
[1:00:54]
However, I find it difficult to believe
[1:00:56]
that the Open Meetings Act would have
[1:00:58]
language that would discourage a
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community's voice on issues that concern
[1:01:03]
them. I understand that public comments
[1:01:06]
can be uncomfortable.
[1:01:08]
Common commentators can be at times
[1:01:11]
rude, untruthful,
[1:01:14]
ill-informed,
[1:01:16]
uh, self-serving, etc. He probably could
[1:01:18]
add to the list considerably. I commend
[1:01:21]
this council's patience in in hearing
[1:01:23]
those and listening those. A
[1:01:25]
representative form of government is
[1:01:27]
fundamental to a free society. A
[1:01:30]
government left to the hands of
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unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats is
[1:01:34]
another step away from a free society
[1:01:37]
and toward totalitarianism.
[1:01:40]
Public comment on matters that affect
[1:01:42]
community is not only necessary for
[1:01:44]
gaining perspective on how potential
[1:01:47]
decisions may affect the community, but
[1:01:49]
can also yield useful suggestions and
[1:01:51]
information to assist in the
[1:01:53]
decision-making process.
[1:01:56]
Therefore, I ask the council's continued
[1:01:58]
patience. I'm sure that the same lawyers
[1:02:00]
that are pushing for the elimination of
[1:02:03]
the public comment section of the
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meetings can find a way to legally
[1:02:07]
preserve the public's voice in local
[1:02:10]
affairs if they are directed to do so by
[1:02:13]
those to whom they are accountable. The
[1:02:16]
thing that makes me most suspicious of
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this is we're in a sounds like we're in
[1:02:20]
a big hurry to eliminate it with nothing
[1:02:22]
to take his place. And I understand you
[1:02:24]
Mr. Von Baron, this has been an issue
[1:02:26]
since 2008.
[1:02:28]
Two 18 years. 18 years we've had an
[1:02:31]
opportunity to come up with a solution.
[1:02:34]
It seems like we're in a big hurry to to
[1:02:36]
end it. That's what makes me suspicious.
[1:02:37]
I don't know about anybody else, but uh
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thank you very much for attention.
[1:02:43]
>> Thank you.
[1:02:46]
Anybody else on this?
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Please state your name and address,
[1:02:56]
please.
[1:02:59]
[clears throat]
[1:03:00]
My name is Teresa McGrander at 1825
[1:03:03]
North Keen Avenue, Fremont, Nebraska.
[1:03:06]
Um, good evening. This issue isn't about
[1:03:09]
one person or one organization.
[1:03:12]
It's about every resident here in
[1:03:14]
Fremont, Dodge County. Someday each of
[1:03:17]
us have a concern that isn't already on
[1:03:19]
the council's agenda. Plus, you guys can
[1:03:23]
remove what is on the agenda. I just saw
[1:03:26]
you do three of them tonight. So, if we
[1:03:30]
put something on your agenda, who's
[1:03:32]
going to say you're not going to vote to
[1:03:34]
remove it?
[1:03:37]
I don't know. So, do we ensure our local
[1:03:42]
um officials to hear us. The public
[1:03:45]
comment isn't always comfortable and
[1:03:47]
sometimes citizens praise the government
[1:03:49]
and sometimes they criticize them. Both
[1:03:52]
are a healthy democracy.
[1:03:55]
Please do not
[1:03:57]
reduce the opportunity for the public
[1:04:00]
participation.
[1:04:02]
For years, there's been repeated
[1:04:06]
attempts to eliminate the public
[1:04:08]
comments and addresses. I don't even
[1:04:11]
know who represents my ward.
[1:04:14]
I've never spoke to her anybody. Deb
[1:04:19]
represented my ward because I voted for
[1:04:21]
him. Now he's a mayor. Who represents
[1:04:24]
me? Who represents my ward? I don't know
[1:04:29]
why.
[1:04:31]
You all say that he's going to make it
[1:04:34]
public. How in the Fremont Tribune where
[1:04:37]
you have to pay to read it and it it's
[1:04:39]
all online.
[1:04:42]
I've got the Tribune forever, but I will
[1:04:44]
not read it on the computer.
[1:04:47]
So, where is the trust? You guys need to
[1:04:50]
get this community's trust. There was an
[1:04:53]
event last week. None of you knew about
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[clears throat] it.
[1:04:58]
Somebody did because they ordered to
[1:05:00]
have it done.
[1:05:02]
They going to be accountable for it.
[1:05:04]
Y'all know what I'm talking about. I
[1:05:07]
have a voice. It's the first amendment
[1:05:10]
and I'm going to exercise it. Either
[1:05:14]
please vote no because we have a lot to
[1:05:17]
say. Like I said, sometimes we're not
[1:05:20]
comfortable coming up here. Sometimes we
[1:05:24]
don't know if you guys even listen to us
[1:05:26]
because we walk away and you do just the
[1:05:28]
opposite of of what we argued about.
[1:05:31]
There's another defeat of the citizens.
[1:05:34]
You guys all said good speeches. You
[1:05:37]
represent the citizens of Fremont.
[1:05:40]
Please do and vote no. Thank you.
[1:05:55]
» Please state your name and address.
[1:06:00]
Good evening, mayor and members of the
[1:06:02]
council. My name is Dylan Martinez,
[1:06:04]
residing at 1435 East 12th Street here
[1:06:06]
in Fremont. I stand before you tonight
[1:06:08]
specifically regarding ordinance 5755.
[1:06:12]
Um, I prepared this before a lot of the
[1:06:14]
transparency that described here. So,
[1:06:16]
I'm just going to say this real quick
[1:06:17]
because it does still pertain and then
[1:06:19]
I'm going to make a couple comments
[1:06:20]
regarding everything that has also been
[1:06:22]
said. So, at the last meeting, Mr. coats
[1:06:25]
raised concerns about a potential
[1:06:26]
violation occurring during the public
[1:06:28]
comment period. I watched the video. I
[1:06:30]
rewatched the video. However, he was
[1:06:33]
never specific in with the public as to
[1:06:35]
what the alleged violation actually was.
[1:06:37]
That lack of clarity led left the
[1:06:39]
community in the dark and now we are
[1:06:41]
faced with this potential ordinance
[1:06:43]
removal. Um, which suffers from the same
[1:06:45]
lack of ambiguity. So, I do appreciate a
[1:06:48]
lot of, you know, being transparent of
[1:06:50]
what we're trying to do here, but that
[1:06:52]
essentially has left the language
[1:06:54]
surrounding this ordinance as vague and
[1:06:55]
citizens rightly asking what is the
[1:06:57]
ultimate goal here. So, we want to be
[1:06:59]
very clear and draw a line. Um, if the
[1:07:01]
goal of this is just a simple minor
[1:07:03]
technicality, which it seems like it's
[1:07:04]
starting to point towards to formally
[1:07:06]
establish a designated structured time
[1:07:08]
block on the official agenda for open
[1:07:10]
public comment to ensure full procedural
[1:07:13]
compliance. That is fine. In fact, that
[1:07:16]
is a standard administrative practice
[1:07:17]
that should have been established years
[1:07:18]
ago. Just as the first speaker had
[1:07:20]
mentioned, let's just put a thing on the
[1:07:22]
docket that says open public comment 30
[1:07:25]
period. Nobody rests a spot, we can make
[1:07:27]
a motion to move past it. um you know
[1:07:30]
assuming that everybody has a time to
[1:07:32]
speak
[1:07:34]
in in
[1:07:36]
however if the ultimate goal of this
[1:07:38]
ordinance is to eliminate the 30-inut
[1:07:40]
open public comment period in its
[1:07:42]
entirety or to create a process where
[1:07:44]
officials can pre-screen gatekeep and
[1:07:46]
cherrypick questions or citizens get um
[1:07:49]
cherrypick questions which that
[1:07:53]
cherrypick which questions or citizens
[1:07:56]
that get heard and that is a massive
[1:07:58]
problem. Open public comment is not a
[1:08:00]
courtesy granted at the council's
[1:08:01]
discretion. It is a community's primary
[1:08:03]
window for unscripted accountability.
[1:08:05]
When public officials face uncomfortable
[1:08:07]
questions, the solution is better
[1:08:08]
governance, not transparency, not
[1:08:10]
removing the microphone. If the concern
[1:08:12]
of the council members might
[1:08:13]
accidentally debate non-aggenda items
[1:08:15]
and trigger an open meetings act issue.
[1:08:17]
The fix is simple. Enforce a strict
[1:08:19]
listen only rule for the council members
[1:08:21]
during open comment. You do not need to
[1:08:23]
silence the public to keep the council
[1:08:24]
compliant with state law. I urge the
[1:08:26]
council to clarify the extent um the
[1:08:28]
exact intent of the ordinance 5755 on
[1:08:31]
record tonight. If this ordinance strips
[1:08:33]
away or restricts our 30-minut open
[1:08:34]
public comment period, I strongly urge
[1:08:36]
you to vote no. Thank you. Now, with
[1:08:38]
that in mind, um the last couple things
[1:08:40]
that I just want to comment on, you
[1:08:42]
know, the whole open meetings act is
[1:08:44]
supposed to be set up as a listenon
[1:08:46]
rule. It's something for people to come
[1:08:48]
here unscripted to present communities
[1:08:50]
and um you know, issues with you. just
[1:08:52]
as uh you know the gentleman last week
[1:08:55]
about um tree removal services that
[1:08:58]
potentially was still in effect you know
[1:09:01]
50 some years ago and that we've shifted
[1:09:02]
away from that as a society. There are
[1:09:04]
things that we need to bring to you for
[1:09:07]
you guys to talk about. But at the same
[1:09:08]
light, if there are um specific
[1:09:11]
articulated
[1:09:13]
public forums where we can talk to you
[1:09:15]
as representatives and get answers back,
[1:09:18]
that also is very nice too because it's
[1:09:20]
nice to know that you're heard. But at
[1:09:21]
the same time, we need to make sure that
[1:09:23]
we can be heard as citizens um of our
[1:09:26]
country. And also to the comment
[1:09:28]
definitely, you know, when we're in open
[1:09:29]
public comment, we need to speak about
[1:09:32]
people in an objective manner, not a
[1:09:34]
subjective manner. So definitely be
[1:09:36]
friendly to your citizens. We're all
[1:09:38]
humans here at the end of the day,
[1:09:39]
right? So, thank you so much and hope
[1:09:41]
you have a great day.
[1:09:42]
>> Thank you.
[1:09:44]
>> Anybody else on this?
[1:10:01]
» State your name and address, please.
[1:10:04]
>> Street. Uh before I get on to this uh my
[1:10:08]
what I was going to talk about uh I'm
[1:10:10]
looking at item 20 here and uh you know
[1:10:13]
everybody talked about we need to revise
[1:10:15]
it and make it better for people allow
[1:10:18]
it but this definitely states that uh
[1:10:21]
the intent is to elim eliminate the open
[1:10:24]
public comment period is what it says
[1:10:26]
right here. So you have to be careful on
[1:10:28]
what you say and what this says.
[1:10:33]
That being said, uh, mayor and council
[1:10:35]
members, I want to thank you for letting
[1:10:37]
me speak tonight.
[1:10:39]
Um,
[1:10:44]
Nebraska law says the citizens have the
[1:10:46]
right to speak in public bodies and are
[1:10:49]
given the opportunity to speak at each
[1:10:51]
meeting.
[1:10:52]
If the city council eliminates a public
[1:10:56]
uh uh comment section, citizens are not
[1:10:59]
allowed to speak about subjects that are
[1:11:02]
already in the agenda.
[1:11:04]
I would like to ask the city council,
[1:11:06]
how is an ordinary um citizen supposed
[1:11:09]
to publicly bring new issues to the
[1:11:13]
council if that isn't or that isn't
[1:11:16]
already on the agenda.
[1:11:19]
You control the agenda and we don't.
[1:11:24]
What's uh and and that's why the open
[1:11:29]
public comment is important. It gives
[1:11:32]
citizens an opportunity to come before
[1:11:34]
their elected officials to say there's
[1:11:36]
something wrong here in Fremont that you
[1:11:38]
need to know about.
[1:11:40]
Maybe it's a problem with the street, a
[1:11:44]
safety concern,
[1:11:46]
how tax money is being spent,
[1:11:49]
or something the city doesn't even know
[1:11:50]
about.
[1:11:52]
If it's not on the agenda without a
[1:11:54]
public comment,
[1:11:56]
when do the when do the citizens get an
[1:12:00]
opportunity to stand here and bring
[1:12:01]
these issues to the entire council in
[1:12:05]
public? Now, you talked about doing uh emails and stuff like that.
[1:12:10]
That's that's good. But I I still think
[1:12:12]
people need to be do needs to be done in
[1:12:14]
public so everybody including the public
[1:12:17]
knows what's going on.
[1:12:20]
There is a difference between allowing
[1:12:21]
citizens to comment on what the city
[1:12:23]
council has decided to discuss and
[1:12:25]
allowing citizens tell the city
[1:12:30]
what they believe needs to be discussed.
[1:12:32]
The open
[1:12:35]
uh comment provides that opportunity and
[1:12:37]
it's important. The council shouldn't be
[1:12:40]
the one deciding which issues are
[1:12:43]
important enough to talk about at in
[1:12:46]
public. Taking away the open public
[1:12:48]
comment might make it make the meeting
[1:12:51]
shorter, might make it easier to manage,
[1:12:54]
but convenience should not become an
[1:12:56]
expense of
[1:12:58]
communicating between the citizens and
[1:13:00]
people elected to present represent
[1:13:03]
them. You may not like you may not agree
[1:13:07]
what is said on the microphone.
[1:13:09]
You may hear criticism. I'm sorry, but
[1:13:11]
that's public service.
[1:13:15]
It's about giving citizens a voice.
[1:13:18]
If this is a problem with an open public
[1:13:21]
comment currently works, then fix it
[1:13:24]
fairly. And we've talked about some
[1:13:26]
things tonight. But don't eliminate that
[1:13:29]
opportunity because once a citizen can
[1:13:32]
only because once citizens can only
[1:13:35]
publicly discuss what the government
[1:13:37]
puts on the agenda,
[1:13:39]
the government is controlling the
[1:13:40]
meeting. is controlling the
[1:13:43]
conversation. Please don't take away the
[1:13:45]
voice of the citizens of Fremont. Thank
[1:13:48]
you.
[1:13:53]
Anybody else on this?
[1:14:03]
Jerry Delaney, 2940 Lever Street, Mont.
[1:14:07]
Uh, I understand from the discussion
[1:14:09]
earlier tonight that this all came about
[1:14:11]
because one person complained and didn't
[1:14:13]
want public comment any longer. It
[1:14:16]
sounds to me like there's considerably
[1:14:17]
more people that would disagree with
[1:14:19]
that and do want it. Uh, no decisions
[1:14:22]
are ever made public comment. So, what I
[1:14:26]
have read in the Open Meetings Act, I
[1:14:29]
don't see how you're violating the Open
[1:14:31]
Meetings Act in any way. I I think we
[1:14:34]
need to see a definite solution to the
[1:14:37]
problem. And I agree with what
[1:14:38]
Councilman Van Beern and a couple others
[1:14:40]
of you said earlier. Yeah, what we're
[1:14:42]
doing now isn't working, but you don't
[1:14:45]
get rid of it without first having
[1:14:48]
something put in place to replace it. We
[1:14:52]
already have a very limited amount of
[1:14:54]
time and a very limited format in which
[1:14:57]
the public can address the council on
[1:14:59]
concerns.
[1:15:00]
Why take away this last little piece of
[1:15:03]
open discussion that exists between the
[1:15:04]
public and yourselves without first
[1:15:07]
enacting a definite and a better
[1:15:10]
solution?
[1:15:11]
I understand that I'm free to reach out
[1:15:14]
to my council person, to the mayor, or
[1:15:16]
whoever anytime I want, but if I want to
[1:15:19]
address an issue to not just my council
[1:15:22]
person, but to all of you, as well as to
[1:15:24]
the mayor and city administrators and
[1:15:28]
the city attorneys and the public in
[1:15:30]
general.
[1:15:31]
And I want to be sure that I've conveyed
[1:15:34]
the same messages accurately and equally
[1:15:36]
to all of you at the same time. I can't
[1:15:39]
do that with a bunch of different phone
[1:15:41]
calls or a bunch of different meetings.
[1:15:43]
That's just not possible.
[1:15:47]
There already exists a feeling of
[1:15:49]
mistrust between the public and all
[1:15:51]
those government. This lack of trust
[1:15:54]
that exists is more often than not
[1:15:57]
unfounded.
[1:15:58]
But nonetheless, it does exist. Why
[1:16:02]
would you want to increase this level of
[1:16:04]
animosity?
[1:16:06]
I urge you to vote this ordinance down
[1:16:08]
until you have something better to
[1:16:10]
replace it. I urge you to clearly show
[1:16:12]
the voters of Fremont that you want to
[1:16:15]
hear from them in some manner. And I beg
[1:16:19]
to not put up a wall between our
[1:16:22]
community and those of you that serve.
[1:16:24]
Thank you for your time.
[1:16:28]
Anybody
[1:16:30]
else on this?
[1:16:55]
» State your name and address, please.
[1:16:56]
Brad Jüger, 2318 East Fifth Street,
[1:16:59]
former city council member for Ward 4.
[1:17:04]
[clears throat]
[1:17:05]
I'd like to start my discussion tonight
[1:17:06]
with a little background in history. Uh
[1:17:09]
so that those of you that weren't here
[1:17:10]
when this all went about uh understand
[1:17:12]
where we're coming from. Back in
[1:17:14]
December 2018, the mayor gets appointed
[1:17:17]
to the mayor's committee to look into
[1:17:19]
open public comment. They they
[1:17:22]
commissioned uh assistance from McGrath
[1:17:24]
North Omaha based law firm who was the
[1:17:26]
county city attorney at the time. They
[1:17:29]
went about um drafting this ordinance
[1:17:32]
that you have in front of you today uh
[1:17:34]
with McGrath's North Oversight all the
[1:17:36]
way through. They had to decide what
[1:17:39]
type of forum would be considered. And
[1:17:40]
it was discussed that the act defines
[1:17:42]
meetings quote as regular, special, or
[1:17:45]
called meetings, formal or informal,
[1:17:47]
that require discussion of public
[1:17:49]
business, formation of policies, or the
[1:17:51]
taking of action by the public body as
[1:17:54]
discussion 841409.
[1:17:56]
An open mic session that we have today
[1:17:59]
doesn't require any of that.
[1:18:02]
It is a forum for presentation by the
[1:18:05]
public. There is no action, no public
[1:18:07]
business. The committee was advised by
[1:18:10]
legal that the open mic session would
[1:18:13]
not be a meeting of council, nor would
[1:18:15]
it invoke the meeting definitions and
[1:18:17]
standards defined by the open meetings
[1:18:19]
act if not any part of the meeting was
[1:18:22]
defined where only the so the the public
[1:18:25]
could speak and council members could
[1:18:28]
attend voluntarily. They weren't
[1:18:30]
required to. There was no roll call.
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They only listened so that the public
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could get their information out into the
[1:18:36]
hands of the public. Therefore, McGrath
[1:18:39]
Nor said, contrary to current advice,
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this was not a meeting. This was a forum
[1:18:44]
for the public to provide public
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comment.
[1:18:48]
They also recommended that the city not
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make it part of a open public comment
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part of a regular meeting. And why?
[1:18:56]
because that would make it u subject to
[1:18:59]
open meetings act rules because now you
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have a published agenda. Now you would
[1:19:03]
have to have all of this other um
[1:19:06]
activity with regards to what are you
[1:19:07]
going to speak to etc. It was not an
[1:19:09]
open mic. It was registration only. That
[1:19:13]
would be a bad idea. We want to have
[1:19:15]
more transparency and opportunity. So
[1:19:17]
they took the matter under advisement
[1:19:20]
and they developed the policy that we
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had. They had the first reading in
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January of 29, January 29th of 19,
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second reading on February 29th, final
[1:19:28]
reading on February 26, and it became
[1:19:30]
city ordinance after that. They had the
[1:19:32]
first meeting of open public comment on
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March 2019. It's been in effect ever
[1:19:37]
since. Now, the critical part of what I
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think is important here is you need to
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define really what is a meeting. Your
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city legal council says that that is a
[1:19:47]
meeting. I'm telling you, McGrath North
[1:19:50]
told us emphatically it was not a
[1:19:52]
meeting for the reasons I just gave you.
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Therefore, if it's not a meeting, you're
[1:19:56]
not bound by those kinds of uh arguments
[1:19:59]
that are being made currently. And and
[1:20:01]
more importantly, the trust and
[1:20:02]
transparency that have been mentioned
[1:20:04]
tonight are critical. That's why this
[1:20:06]
was started in the first place. Three
[1:20:07]
council members and and a fourth that
[1:20:10]
was appointed to this committee are
[1:20:11]
adamant we needed to do something about
[1:20:14]
transparency in Fremont. This was the
[1:20:16]
result.
[1:20:19]
Since this was passed, multiple
[1:20:22]
occasions have occurred when the present
[1:20:25]
law firm has attempted to get rid of
[1:20:27]
public comment
[1:20:28]
altogether.
[1:20:31]
The uh lead person, lead lawyer at the
[1:20:34]
firm even wrote city code to eliminate
[1:20:36]
all public comment. Fortunately, the
[1:20:39]
council rebuffed that. I ask that you
[1:20:41]
not rebuff the the public this time
[1:20:44]
round requiring us to put things on the
[1:20:47]
agenda. Just this is not appropriate.
[1:20:50]
Please discontinue this discussion alto
[1:20:53]
together. Thank you.
[1:20:54]
>> Thank you.
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>> That's it.
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Right. Tough 1537 Brewer Drive. Good
[1:21:13]
evening, Mayor and Council. The
[1:21:15]
ordinance is being presented as a
[1:21:17]
measure to comply with Nebraska Open
[1:21:18]
Meetings Act, but after reading the city
[1:21:20]
attorney's memo and reviewing the law
[1:21:22]
myself, I have serious questions about
[1:21:24]
whether eliminating open public comment
[1:21:26]
is actually required. The memo argues
[1:21:28]
that because citizens may not may speak
[1:21:30]
on topics that are not known in advance,
[1:21:32]
the city must eliminate the public
[1:21:34]
comment period altogether. Yet Nebraska
[1:21:36]
law also states that the public public
[1:21:39]
bodies shall allow members to speak
[1:21:43]
and have an opportunity to speak at each
[1:21:45]
meeting meeting. So my first question is
[1:21:47]
simple. Travis, can you tell us what
[1:21:50]
Nebraska Supreme Court case or attorney
[1:21:52]
general opinion specifically says that
[1:21:54]
allowing citizens to speak on matters
[1:21:56]
not listed on the agenda violates the
[1:21:57]
Open Meetings Act? If such authority
[1:22:00]
exists, please share it with the public.
[1:22:02]
If it does not, then this appears to be
[1:22:04]
legal in interpretation, not a legal
[1:22:07]
mandate. Across Nebraska, city councils,
[1:22:10]
boards, school boards, and other public
[1:22:12]
bodies continue to provide opportunities
[1:22:14]
for public comment. Many do so by
[1:22:16]
allowing citizens to speak while
[1:22:17]
limiting limiting discussion by elect
[1:22:20]
officials on matters that are not on the
[1:22:22]
agenda. So, basically,
[1:22:27]
hopefully all of you guys have
[1:22:28]
understood and read that you're supposed
[1:22:30]
to be following Robert's rules. Um, and
[1:22:34]
we've provided copies to the council
[1:22:36]
before, we'd be happy to do it again.
[1:22:38]
But, um, if you can't see that, it's the
[1:22:41]
lack in trust for our government. So, I
[1:22:44]
urge you not to vote for this tonight,
[1:22:46]
um, until you guys can put something
[1:22:48]
else in place, um, and try to get the,
[1:22:52]
you know, trust back into our, you know,
[1:22:58]
public officials because I tell you
[1:23:00]
what, just last week, I emailed each one
[1:23:02]
of you guys. There was one who emailed
[1:23:05]
me back.
[1:23:07]
One of you guys. And you guys can't
[1:23:10]
forget that. We put you guys in your
[1:23:12]
positions. You work for us. Those two
[1:23:15]
work for us, too. For you guys. You guys
[1:23:19]
are supposed to be in charge of them.
[1:23:22]
And they're the ones that keep trying to
[1:23:24]
pull this kind of stuff. And it's all
[1:23:26]
because they know that there's stuff
[1:23:28]
coming, you know, where people want to
[1:23:29]
use the open public comment period. So,
[1:23:32]
please continue to listen to your
[1:23:33]
constituents. Don't try to rely I hope
[1:23:36]
the citizens don't try to rely on just
[1:23:38]
using your email addresses because it
[1:23:41]
doesn't work. Only one of you replied
[1:23:43]
back to me and can't even get a meeting
[1:23:46]
with city attorney or city
[1:23:48]
administrator. So, thank you.
[1:24:04]
» Please state your name and address.
[1:24:06]
>> Name is George Nadomo. I live at 2332
[1:24:09]
East Third Street. Hello, council
[1:24:12]
members and mayor. Um, just listening to
[1:24:16]
everybody today here, uh, I just want to
[1:24:18]
encourage the council to vote against
[1:24:21]
this. It seems to me like all these
[1:24:24]
people over here that vote for everybody
[1:24:27]
up here, I haven't heard a single one
[1:24:29]
come up here and say, "Yeah, let's go
[1:24:31]
for it." They're all confi either
[1:24:34]
they're against it or maybe there's even
[1:24:37]
some confusion. And that tells me that
[1:24:39]
you guys need to go back and take
[1:24:41]
another look at this. And you got to
[1:24:44]
remember, you're representing these
[1:24:46]
people. You want to have the best for
[1:24:48]
them. And their comments are very
[1:24:51]
important. So I encourage you vote
[1:24:54]
against them.
[1:25:07]
Please state your name and address
[1:25:09]
>> at 2550 Deerfield Avenue. I do
[1:25:12]
appreciate this open discussion over
[1:25:14]
this and yes, public comment is
[1:25:17]
important for you guys to have the open
[1:25:20]
ears to listen and understand different
[1:25:22]
situations that are going around town.
[1:25:25]
Um, I did hear the mayor this morning
[1:25:28]
say
[1:25:30]
everything is open as far as make a
[1:25:32]
phone call or email your
[1:25:34]
representatives. I've done both. I heard
[1:25:37]
back from one on the situation this last
[1:25:40]
week and I've left voicemails and I've
[1:25:44]
never heard back. I've contacted
[1:25:47]
uh street department over a concern in
[1:25:50]
our neighborhood probably two three
[1:25:52]
weeks ago which in the
[1:25:56]
explanation of what the street
[1:25:59]
department does hesitate to you know
[1:26:02]
email them and tell them your concerns
[1:26:04]
and I have not heard back. So, it's kind
[1:26:07]
of hard to feel. I mean, and it's the
[1:26:09]
technology world that it is that nobody
[1:26:12]
picks up the phone to talk on the phone,
[1:26:14]
but when you offer to have either the
[1:26:18]
emails or leave a voicemail and don't
[1:26:22]
hear back, it just leaves everybody
[1:26:24]
hanging and wondering and concerned. So,
[1:26:27]
I'd appreciate I appreciate all the
[1:26:30]
discussion that has been going on
[1:26:31]
tonight. Hope you can get this all
[1:26:34]
figured out.
[1:26:35]
Thank you.
[1:26:37]
Anybody else on this?
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» Please state your name and address.
[1:26:51]
>> My name is Stan Hart. I live in 1535
[1:26:54]
North Logan. I've been in this town for
[1:26:57]
72 years. I've seen a lot of things
[1:27:01]
going on in this town since I've been
[1:27:03]
here. Can't say everything has been the
[1:27:06]
best, but sometimes it hasn't been the
[1:27:09]
worst. My wife Cindy and I came here
[1:27:12]
tonight to find out what was going on
[1:27:13]
with this discussion about our first
[1:27:15]
amendment rights of city council
[1:27:18]
meeting. And I know through the years,
[1:27:20]
having been to some previously in the
[1:27:22]
past, that through the years, it seems
[1:27:25]
like the open meeting supposedly for us
[1:27:28]
people of the town has been infringed
[1:27:31]
upon and changed and limited in
[1:27:34]
different ways.
[1:27:36]
Tonight, I'm listening to you talk about
[1:27:38]
that and the admission that yeah, the
[1:27:41]
system of the open meeting hasn't been
[1:27:44]
exactly right. Well, okay. And it's been
[1:27:47]
carried on that way for seemingly a very
[1:27:49]
long time.
[1:27:51]
But so far, all I've heard is smoke in
[1:27:54]
the wind. I hear, "Yeah, we need to
[1:27:57]
change it. Yeah, we need to change it."
[1:27:59]
Well, I can tell my wife that when she
[1:28:00]
has ideas about what to do around the
[1:28:02]
house, but that doesn't get the job
[1:28:05]
done. Commitment gets the job done.
[1:28:09]
Saying there's going to be action taken
[1:28:11]
and it's going to be done gets the job
[1:28:14]
done. That's a confirmation to us the
[1:28:16]
people you're going to do something
[1:28:18]
about it and not just talk about.
[1:28:21]
So if you want to get something done,
[1:28:24]
commit to it and get it done. Don't just
[1:28:26]
tell it. Okay. Thank you.
[1:28:28]
>> Thank you.
[1:28:32]
Anybody else on this?
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» State your name and address, please.
[1:28:49]
» Good evening. I'm Susan Jacobus. I live
[1:28:51]
at 1805 Northeast Street here in
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Fremont. I've lived here for 10 years.
[1:28:58]
I was one of three including Glenn Ellis
[1:29:01]
and Linda Mlan that pushed this forward
[1:29:05]
with the full support of our city
[1:29:06]
council at the time. It was vetted and
[1:29:10]
beat up again and again through our
[1:29:12]
attorneys draft and north.
[1:29:16]
Mark Enbach lent his expertise on it and
[1:29:20]
this started to come about because there
[1:29:22]
was restrictions. There was a lot of
[1:29:24]
foregoing of the three reading rule
[1:29:26]
which I see has ended. But my concern is
[1:29:30]
removing this is also going to continue
[1:29:34]
to remove the ability for the public to
[1:29:38]
comment or to reach out to you. I would
[1:29:40]
agree there's often been times that the
[1:29:44]
derogatory comments directed towards
[1:29:46]
councilmen,
[1:29:48]
council women, mayor as well as
[1:29:50]
administrative staff is unwarranted.
[1:29:54]
It gets petty and then having been in
[1:29:57]
the seat that you are, your ears start
[1:30:00]
to close and I understand that.
[1:30:05]
But it has not always been supported by
[1:30:07]
all of you to have open comment nor was
[1:30:10]
it all always allowed to have the
[1:30:13]
citizens right to speak and I speak from
[1:30:15]
personal issue. I was attempted to be
[1:30:19]
taken to task during executive session
[1:30:21]
because I spoke at a planning commission
[1:30:22]
meeting as a citizen and identified
[1:30:26]
myself as such because I was against
[1:30:29]
development of a commercial quick shop
[1:30:32]
style or 7-Eleven style gas station
[1:30:36]
at the area right across from the Lucen
[1:30:38]
church
[1:30:39]
off military there by the swimming pool.
[1:30:43]
And I I believe Mr. remembers the letter
[1:30:45]
that he wrote to his planning commission
[1:30:47]
to have me removed and to have the mayor
[1:30:50]
have me removed as councilman. I was
[1:30:52]
then taken into an executive session and
[1:30:55]
I there was an attempt to quash. I had
[1:30:58]
already reached out to an independent
[1:31:00]
attorney
[1:31:02]
and was advised to stand my ground. So I
[1:31:05]
refused to stay in an executive session
[1:31:09]
in order to be ostracized or to remove
[1:31:12]
which neither it did happen.
[1:31:16]
There was multiple complaints from me to
[1:31:18]
the attorney general for issues
[1:31:20]
concerning the open meeting act that
[1:31:22]
also helped push this forward.
[1:31:25]
It didn't necessarily cure all of them,
[1:31:27]
but it solved some of the issues we were
[1:31:29]
having. sidebar discussions between the
[1:31:32]
mayor and the city administrator at the
[1:31:34]
time and decisions being made,
[1:31:37]
comments and decisions being made out in
[1:31:40]
the open between um councilmen.
[1:31:43]
Those discussions are supposed to be
[1:31:45]
public and you guys do behave better
[1:31:48]
than our row did at first,
[1:31:51]
but it still happens. Those sidebar
[1:31:53]
discussions are not intended to make
[1:31:56]
decisions or to gather enough votes so
[1:31:59]
you have the guts to bring it to the
[1:32:00]
table or the platform.
[1:32:03]
And the reason why this was pushed
[1:32:05]
forward and by the way was approved 8 to
[1:32:09]
zero. We had the full support and we
[1:32:12]
also had full legal support at the time
[1:32:14]
and that hasn't changed. You're not
[1:32:16]
making policy DNA's meeting when there's
[1:32:20]
a open public comment period. you're not
[1:32:22]
making policy. You may be given
[1:32:24]
something to think about and perhaps
[1:32:27]
maybe down the line it would warrant one
[1:32:29]
of you, any of you to respond back to
[1:32:31]
the citizen who stated the complaint.
[1:32:33]
But that doesn't always happen. In fact,
[1:32:35]
it seldom happens.
[1:32:38]
It was the intent of the open
[1:32:42]
public comment to either have something
[1:32:44]
added to an agenda in a future date if
[1:32:46]
it warranted or to have city staff
[1:32:48]
whether it's street department, utility
[1:32:50]
department, parks department, whatever
[1:32:52]
it may be, address the issue if there
[1:32:54]
was any issue of concern, but to bring
[1:32:56]
it to the table for a full discussion at
[1:32:58]
city council level if needed.
[1:33:01]
And that doesn't typically happen, does
[1:33:03]
it?
[1:33:06]
I totally would not agree. I would be
[1:33:09]
totally against removing public comment.
[1:33:11]
Period. I think you need to have an open
[1:33:14]
conversation and if it has to be
[1:33:16]
included as part of your meeting agenda
[1:33:17]
and nobody shows up, then move on with
[1:33:19]
your meeting. Very simple solution. But
[1:33:23]
as far as the opens meeting act, you've
[1:33:26]
been in complian with it all along.
[1:33:28]
There's not been an issue.
[1:33:30]
You don't like it from the derogatory
[1:33:32]
comments. you have the outline of
[1:33:34]
behavior that's required at a meeting
[1:33:37]
and also during a public comment period
[1:33:39]
enforce it.
[1:33:42]
Ask people to shut it down or shut the
[1:33:44]
mic off. They start to get derogatory.
[1:33:47]
You have all been victim or have been
[1:33:50]
witnessed to some of the derogatory
[1:33:52]
comments that happened when I was on
[1:33:53]
council. It was way out of line. Was it
[1:33:56]
controlled? No. Should it have been?
[1:33:58]
Yes. Should it be with you at your level
[1:34:00]
at your seats? Yes, it [clears throat]
[1:34:02]
should. But please do not remove this.
[1:34:04]
Just enhance it if you Thank you.
[1:34:07]
>> Thank you.
[1:34:16]
» State your name and address.
[1:34:18]
[clears throat]
[1:34:20]
Steve Ray, 1445 North Irving.
[1:34:23]
Well, had different comments kind of
[1:34:25]
lined up, but
[1:34:28]
the agenda was kind of misleading. You
[1:34:30]
said eliminate. You got a lot of people
[1:34:33]
here thought you just going to vote get
[1:34:34]
rid of it all together and that should
[1:34:37]
have never sent that kind of signal out.
[1:34:39]
Really
[1:34:40]
should have had you want to say
[1:34:42]
eliminate. You should have said we're
[1:34:43]
going to have options or we're going to
[1:34:45]
try and do something.
[1:34:47]
I think that created a lot of problem
[1:34:51]
right there.
[1:34:53]
Uh, I've been reading the agenda, the
[1:34:58]
statutes for a m open meeting. I'm not
[1:35:01]
sure you guys are in violation of it
[1:35:04]
because you don't discuss. We don't
[1:35:08]
discuss. We just bring something forward
[1:35:10]
and talk. You don't take any action now.
[1:35:14]
Most of the time there's nothing brought
[1:35:15]
up in the meeting that you take action
[1:35:17]
on later. it. It's just a way for people
[1:35:21]
to come and bring something up. And I
[1:35:23]
wouldn't want to see it happen be put on
[1:35:25]
the agenda. If you go to where you have
[1:35:30]
it as part of your regular meeting, put
[1:35:33]
it right on the agenda because there
[1:35:35]
might be something come up today that oh
[1:35:37]
yeah, I should bring that up at the
[1:35:39]
meeting. What's going to be my
[1:35:41]
alternative? I mean, you got to have it
[1:35:44]
in the week before. Well, it comes up
[1:35:46]
today. how are you going to speak to it?
[1:35:48]
And it might be over with in a day or
[1:35:50]
so. So, you you really can't put that
[1:35:53]
down and have it on the agenda
[1:35:56]
beforehand like your agenda for all your
[1:35:58]
business. And u I know that I just don't
[1:36:05]
know if you've been in violation really.
[1:36:07]
And I do know the law firms that we have
[1:36:09]
now, they've publicly in the meetings
[1:36:11]
have said they would do away with public
[1:36:13]
comment altogether. So, it's kind of a,
[1:36:17]
you know, another way to say, they did
[1:36:20]
say that we need to do something
[1:36:22]
different. Well, if we do something
[1:36:24]
different, I don't think it needs to be
[1:36:26]
something where you have to put
[1:36:28]
something in the agenda to have it
[1:36:31]
spoken about so they everybody knows
[1:36:33]
ahead of time. It should be an open mic
[1:36:35]
type thing because that's what it was
[1:36:37]
for, just for people to come and speak
[1:36:40]
on something that's on their mind at the
[1:36:42]
time, not well, let's see, the meeting's
[1:36:45]
coming up, so I better get something on
[1:36:46]
the agenda so they can speak about it.
[1:36:49]
So, I'd encourage you to vote no to
[1:36:52]
eliminate it and go back to the drawing
[1:36:54]
board and try to come up with something.
[1:36:56]
It sounds like some of the other cities
[1:36:58]
have open mic and they haven't been a
[1:37:00]
problem. Now, I don't know if we've had
[1:37:02]
a problem with anybody challenging the
[1:37:04]
way you do it now.
[1:37:08]
Thank you. Anybody else on this?
[1:37:19]
State your name and address, please. My
[1:37:22]
name is Jean Schultz. I live at 2306
[1:37:24]
Jean Drive, Fremont.
[1:37:27]
Well, here we go again.
[1:37:30]
Adams and Sullivan attorneys are
[1:37:31]
attempting deni to deny Fremont citizens
[1:37:34]
of their ability to give public comments
[1:37:37]
during the last scheduled council
[1:37:39]
meeting of the month by making it more
[1:37:41]
difficult than it needs to be.
[1:37:45]
Maybe I missed it, but I saw nothing in
[1:37:47]
the Open Meetings Act requiring that
[1:37:50]
topics to be discussed be included in
[1:37:54]
reference to notices for public comment
[1:37:56]
periods, as was stated in the staff
[1:37:58]
report.
[1:38:01]
There is another solution than the one
[1:38:03]
proposed by Adams and Sullivan
[1:38:05]
attorneys. You don't have to look far.
[1:38:09]
Just follow the format of the Dodge
[1:38:11]
County Board of Supervisors. They have
[1:38:14]
public comments positioned before their
[1:38:17]
public hearings on all of their
[1:38:19]
published agendas.
[1:38:22]
Just add an agenda item that asks the
[1:38:25]
question.
[1:38:27]
Any business brought by the public or
[1:38:29]
discussion from the public. There you
[1:38:32]
go. No must, no fuss.
[1:38:35]
But you may want to use that agenda item
[1:38:38]
only on the last meeting of the month
[1:38:40]
like we do now.
[1:38:42]
if it's helpful. Dodge County also has
[1:38:45]
an agenda item that says any emergency
[1:38:47]
items to the agenda.
[1:38:51]
In closing,
[1:38:53]
citizens should not have to jump through
[1:38:55]
hoops like a trained circus seal to
[1:38:59]
speak at a public comment period. This
[1:39:01]
is America.
[1:39:03]
We recently celebrated Independence Day.
[1:39:07]
It commemorates the passage of the
[1:39:09]
Declaration of Independence by the
[1:39:12]
Continental Congress on July 4th, 1776.
[1:39:17]
We are still in the midst of celebrating
[1:39:20]
250 years as a nation.
[1:39:23]
Our Constitution defines the goals and
[1:39:26]
framework of the government. But they
[1:39:28]
weren't done there. Our founders added
[1:39:30]
the Bill of Rights ratified in 1791
[1:39:34]
that puts limits on government
[1:39:37]
overreach. 10 amendments, the first of
[1:39:40]
which includes freedom of speech.
[1:39:44]
I'm anxious to observe which of you will
[1:39:46]
be celebrating tonight on the side of
[1:39:49]
free speech for Fremont citizens when
[1:39:52]
you vote no on ordinance 5755.
[1:39:57]
And of course watching which of you will
[1:39:59]
be the party poopers voting yes. 5755
[1:40:04]
is not a good solution. Thank you.
[1:40:08]
>> Thank you.
[1:40:10]
Anybody else on this?
[1:40:16]
» State your name and address please.
[1:40:19]
>> My name is Scott Thomas 2403 Estus Lane
[1:40:22]
Fremont Nebraska. I'm a candidate in the
[1:40:25]
first ward city council right now. Uh
[1:40:29]
man, I'm grateful. I just want to say
[1:40:31]
that first. I'm grateful for all the
[1:40:33]
people in this room and all the people
[1:40:35]
that got up and spoke. People that take
[1:40:38]
their country to heart, take their
[1:40:41]
duties and responsibilities as Americans
[1:40:43]
to heart. Don't take that
[1:40:46]
uh
[1:40:48]
that birthight for granted. I appreciate
[1:40:51]
that. I appreciate everybody in this
[1:40:52]
room. I appreciate you guys for your
[1:40:53]
service. Seriously. Uh,
[1:40:57]
but I am the director for the US
[1:41:02]
Institute of Diplomacy and Human Rights
[1:41:04]
for the region of Nebraska. And we don't
[1:41:06]
have an Iowa director. We don't have a
[1:41:07]
Kansas director. We don't have a
[1:41:09]
Missouri director. So, I handle those
[1:41:10]
regions, too. Um, our AG is publicly
[1:41:14]
picking fights with Trump's
[1:41:15]
administration right now. We want to
[1:41:17]
hang my hat on necessarily all the
[1:41:19]
advice that you get from killers.
[1:41:22]
Uh, and we've heard a lot of mentions of
[1:41:25]
the Constitution and the Bill of Rights,
[1:41:26]
particularly the First Amendment. So, I
[1:41:29]
want to give you guys an example of
[1:41:30]
something that would not be on the
[1:41:32]
agenda because everything that's not on
[1:41:35]
the agenda, you know, these are outlier
[1:41:37]
issues and how would you know to put
[1:41:38]
something on there if it's if it's not
[1:41:41]
on there if it's not your issue? So,
[1:41:44]
um, one of my jobs necessarily is making
[1:41:47]
sure that people have access to physical
[1:41:50]
documents
[1:41:52]
that represent your rights here in this
[1:41:55]
country. And so, the declaration, not
[1:41:58]
just not just the declaration, but the
[1:42:00]
rights of man, also very historical
[1:42:02]
documents that go all the way back to
[1:42:04]
Carta. Uh,
[1:42:07]
and
[1:42:09]
I tried to inquire into a booth at the
[1:42:12]
John C. Fremont days where we could pass
[1:42:15]
copies of the Constitution because I
[1:42:16]
think that people are right. One of the
[1:42:18]
reasons that we have some of the
[1:42:20]
problems that we have in this country is
[1:42:21]
because people don't make it their
[1:42:22]
business to know what it means to be an
[1:42:23]
American or what your duties and
[1:42:25]
responsibilities are to this country or
[1:42:27]
what those amendments mean or what these
[1:42:29]
men fought and died for that built the
[1:42:32]
country. And so I think that we should
[1:42:34]
pass it out. I think we should read it.
[1:42:36]
I think we should have it in our
[1:42:37]
schools. I think we should hang it on
[1:42:39]
the walls.
[1:42:41]
And I I called and I said, "What if I
[1:42:43]
just want to pass out copies of the
[1:42:45]
Constitution?" I didn't want to set a
[1:42:46]
high bar. What if we just want to pass
[1:42:47]
out free copies of the Constitution to
[1:42:49]
the public? And I was told, "You are not
[1:42:51]
allowed to bring the Constitution to our
[1:42:54]
event. We will have you arrested."
[1:42:57]
And so I'm an American. So I went to the
[1:43:00]
edge of their event, passed out the
[1:43:02]
Constitution to all my fellow Americans.
[1:43:05]
So they went to an officer. He looked
[1:43:07]
like that Jensen guy and they asked him
[1:43:09]
to arrest me and he told them no. Which
[1:43:12]
might be why he made sergeant if it's
[1:43:14]
the same guy. Hey, I'm telling you, man.
[1:43:17]
Everybody doesn't think about this
[1:43:19]
stuff, but I don't want these people in
[1:43:21]
this room right now who I just said took
[1:43:24]
the due diligence to come up here and make it their duty to defend their
[1:43:28]
country and their birthright as American
[1:43:30]
citizens. I don't want to make them put
[1:43:32]
my kids to trade school or give them
[1:43:35]
money to start businesses once they
[1:43:37]
graduate. But if you arrest me for
[1:43:40]
passing out the Constitution in the city
[1:43:42]
where I live in the United States of
[1:43:43]
America, I would sue everybody on this
[1:43:46]
council personally except my councilman
[1:43:49]
because I know he wouldn't have been
[1:43:50]
party in that. But whoever made that
[1:43:52]
contract with John Fremont days, you
[1:43:55]
guys should vet people a little bit more
[1:43:56]
thoroughly what kind of beliefs they
[1:44:00]
bring when they broker alliances and
[1:44:03]
contracts to do business with the people
[1:44:05]
of the city of Fremont.
[1:44:07]
Thank you all for your attention. Any
[1:44:09]
kind of questions you guys have, I'd be
[1:44:11]
happy to answer them. I see the clerk is
[1:44:13]
looking very confused right now. This is
[1:44:16]
the first you've heard of any of this.
[1:44:19]
Okay, fair enough. I appreciate you guys
[1:44:21]
time.
[1:44:26]
Anybody else on this?
[1:44:34]
State your name and address, please.
[1:44:36]
Roger Brimmerman, 921 North Clarson
[1:44:39]
Street, lifelong resident of Fremont.
[1:44:43]
And um you know, my dad was alive and we
[1:44:48]
used to get full tribune.
[1:44:51]
He used to complain about a lot of
[1:44:52]
things that the city council did. I have
[1:44:54]
said or I I I have to say that we've
[1:44:58]
come a long ways from the 60s and 70s on
[1:45:00]
how we handled meetings and and
[1:45:02]
businesses and even the 80s, but I don't
[1:45:05]
think we've gone far enough.
[1:45:08]
And you need to vote no on this. You
[1:45:11]
really need to look at your option, you
[1:45:14]
know, better options doing this during a
[1:45:17]
city council meeting and not a half hour
[1:45:19]
before on the fourth Tuesday that
[1:45:21]
everybody has to wrangle around and
[1:45:24]
everything. You also have another
[1:45:26]
audience that's at your deficit and that
[1:45:29]
is social media and that's what brought
[1:45:31]
me here tonight
[1:45:32]
because in the two posts that I read and
[1:45:36]
had responses they were commenting on
[1:45:38]
the eliminating the open public comment
[1:45:41]
period and that's where it ended not to comply with the open meetings act.
[1:45:48]
So your word smithing or how you do
[1:45:50]
things is very very important. Public
[1:45:54]
perception right now is not very good.
[1:45:57]
Especially with our younger citizens of
[1:46:01]
this city,
[1:46:03]
you should see all the comments on the
[1:46:04]
utilities rate hike.
[1:46:07]
It's not good. People are not happy with
[1:46:10]
that. And I understand as running
[1:46:12]
businesses in this town or or being a
[1:46:15]
part of managing organizations, you do
[1:46:18]
have to ask for a little bit more to do
[1:46:20]
a little bit more. But I really would
[1:46:24]
encourage you first of all to vote no on
[1:46:27]
this. Second of all to really really
[1:46:30]
think about your perception and you
[1:46:33]
can't rely on the Tribune. I used to
[1:46:35]
take it when it was a newspaper and it
[1:46:36]
went online and I did that and I thought
[1:46:40]
I' I've got better things to, you know,
[1:46:42]
and I and I rely on social media. But
[1:46:45]
now I found out that coming here based
[1:46:49]
on what I read was kind of a falsehood
[1:46:52]
in a way too. So you need to find other
[1:46:56]
ways to publicize things to the media.
[1:46:59]
We are in the 21st century. We are
[1:47:02]
digital. I know you can go on the city
[1:47:04]
website and get all the past agendas and
[1:47:08]
all the minutes and all that, but people
[1:47:11]
that's work and people don't want to do
[1:47:14]
that kind of research work. You know,
[1:47:16]
they just they want it put right in
[1:47:18]
front of them. So, I don't know as a
[1:47:20]
governing body what you can do, but you
[1:47:22]
really really I encourage you to really
[1:47:24]
start thinking about this because it's
[1:47:27]
issues like this and this isn't going to
[1:47:29]
be the first issue. There's
[1:47:32]
living here my whole life and a sixth
[1:47:34]
generation person of this county.
[1:47:38]
This isn't the first issue and it won't
[1:47:40]
be the last, but we improvement could
[1:47:43]
certainly certainly take place. Thank
[1:47:46]
you.
[1:47:46]
>> Thank you.
[1:47:49]
Anybody else on this?
[1:47:52]
I'll close the public comment period.
[1:47:55]
Coming back to council. Mayor, if I may
[1:47:58]
just give a brief uh followup to my
[1:48:00]
comments.
[1:48:01]
>> Go ahead.
[1:48:02]
>> The concern here is if a member of a
[1:48:05]
complaint about an action in district
[1:48:07]
court, then we'd be dealing with strict
[1:48:09]
statutory interpretation. There aren't
[1:48:11]
any cases on this because there hasn't
[1:48:12]
been an action brought before. I don't
[1:48:14]
want our city to be the test case. But
[1:48:16]
under the open meetings act, a meeting
[1:48:18]
is either or four things. A briefing,
[1:48:20]
which I think this constitutes a
[1:48:22]
briefing, any public comment, discussion
[1:48:23]
of public business. I think anyone who's
[1:48:26]
married has had a discussion where only
[1:48:27]
one site said something formation of
[1:48:30]
tenative policy or the taking of action
[1:48:32]
of body public body. So there's at least
[1:48:35]
two matters in there where public
[1:48:37]
comment would constitute would fit into
[1:48:39]
the definition of a meeting. And
[1:48:40]
therefore the matters at the meeting
[1:48:42]
that will be discussed need to be
[1:48:44]
publicized to the public. And I think
[1:48:46]
tonight is a great example when we put
[1:48:47]
items on the agenda that the public
[1:48:49]
cares about they'll come here and speak
[1:48:51]
about it. So, I just want the council to
[1:48:53]
know that if this is based strictly on
[1:48:54]
statutory interpretation, I'm not
[1:48:56]
comfortable relying solely on the
[1:48:58]
disposition of the attorney general from
[1:48:59]
a complaint that was filed in 2018. It
[1:49:01]
didn't address all the issues that we're
[1:49:03]
talking.
[1:49:12]
» Yeah, please.
[1:49:14]
Is that all you have left?
[1:49:18]
>> All right, Councilman her. Thank you,
[1:49:20]
mayor. Um I I want to clear up one um
[1:49:23]
misunderstanding in the meeting tonight.
[1:49:26]
Um someone said that we removed items
[1:49:30]
from the agenda and and that is not the
[1:49:34]
case. We did remove three items from the
[1:49:37]
consent agenda and the consent agenda
[1:49:39]
and I know this is probably review for
[1:49:41]
many of you, but I'm just going to say
[1:49:42]
it anyways. Consent agenda are routine
[1:49:46]
items considered routine. We don't need
[1:49:48]
to discuss every one of them. So we vote
[1:49:50]
on them as a block without discussion.
[1:49:52]
Some of those items you as citizens,
[1:49:55]
council members, the mayor, clerk, staff
[1:49:58]
can request they be removed so we can
[1:50:00]
discuss them and then we can vote on.
[1:50:03]
Three of those were done tonight. We
[1:50:06]
discussed them. We voted. Nothing was
[1:50:08]
removed from the agenda. It was
[1:50:10]
repositioned from the consent agenda to
[1:50:12]
the main pain main agenda. So we can
[1:50:14]
discuss them. So I just want to make
[1:50:15]
sure that everybody understands that.
[1:50:18]
The other one is um and maybe I'm a
[1:50:20]
little premature here because I see a
[1:50:22]
list of other council members that want
[1:50:24]
to speak. I do have a recommended
[1:50:26]
amendment for tonight. Um I I I have
[1:50:31]
been reading myself and I do believe
[1:50:33]
that I have read a couple of um um newer
[1:50:37]
um
[1:50:41]
articles and etc that have expressed
[1:50:43]
concern about similar formats to what
[1:50:46]
we've been doing and that they might be
[1:50:48]
violating the opens meeting act. my
[1:50:51]
amendment to this because I do believe
[1:50:53]
if we are in violation, we sure should
[1:50:56]
correct it. And my amendment hopefully
[1:50:59]
will do that and preserve the parts we
[1:51:02]
like and get it into the part that or
[1:51:05]
get it into compliance so that it would
[1:51:07]
be a little bit harder for someone to
[1:51:09]
come and beat us up legally, I guess.
[1:51:11]
So, I can do that now or I can wait
[1:51:14]
until everybody else had a chance to
[1:51:15]
talk.
[1:51:17]
>> What would you do? Um, what I would
[1:51:19]
propose for the amendment to 5755
[1:51:23]
is that we modify FMC2-103
[1:51:28]
to move the public comment period to
[1:51:30]
begin after the regular meeting is
[1:51:32]
called to order and its placement would
[1:51:34]
be after the consent agenda.
[1:51:38]
It would have all the features that
[1:51:39]
currently exist.
[1:51:42]
Public can come in and talk about what's
[1:51:44]
on their mind. they don't have to call
[1:51:46]
in ahead of time and then what they
[1:51:48]
would be able and we would not be able
[1:51:50]
to like we can't now we would not be
[1:51:52]
able to engage because then it becomes
[1:51:54]
business and if we're not able to engage
[1:51:57]
it's a listening session I don't even
[1:51:59]
care if you change it and call it a
[1:52:01]
listening session um you can call it
[1:52:03]
whatever you want some of the other
[1:52:05]
count cities are calling it different
[1:52:07]
things um I like to keep it simple
[1:52:10]
comments from the floor public comments
[1:52:12]
whatever
[1:52:14]
and and make it a regular agenda item
[1:52:17]
subject to all the same rules that now
[1:52:19]
apply to our current public comment
[1:52:21]
period. And then um we keep it on the
[1:52:24]
last Tuesday of each month.
[1:52:27]
And I think that would be a very simple
[1:52:29]
amendment to this. We would take care of
[1:52:33]
our city attorney's concern. I think at
[1:52:35]
least the main point of it and that is
[1:52:37]
that it's outside of the official
[1:52:40]
meeting and it is um it comes now after
[1:52:44]
we've called the official meeting to
[1:52:46]
order. It's going to fall after the the
[1:52:49]
um the um consent agenda items and then
[1:52:52]
we can sit and listen to folks talk
[1:52:55]
about what's on their mind. And I do
[1:52:58]
believe that it has and I think one of
[1:53:00]
the speakers brought this up. I I
[1:53:03]
thought about the fact that if we do
[1:53:05]
that, it does have kind of a benefit
[1:53:07]
that if there's nobody here to talk,
[1:53:10]
we're just going to move on. We're not
[1:53:11]
going to sit here for 30 minutes um
[1:53:14]
waiting on that to occur. And if there
[1:53:16]
are people, we would still cap it at 30
[1:53:18]
minutes so that we can get on with the
[1:53:20]
business of people and we wouldn't be
[1:53:21]
here um an exorbitant amount of time. So
[1:53:25]
that's my amendment. I would recommend
[1:53:27]
that. I would move that we make that
[1:53:28]
amendment and I would hope someone could
[1:53:30]
support that.
[1:53:37]
Councilwoman Ganon,
[1:53:40]
>> I was going to speak, but I also want to
[1:53:42]
sec I will second that because that's
[1:53:44]
what I found in our in my surveys as
[1:53:47]
well and it it is included in several
[1:53:51]
other cities. It's part of the agenda
[1:53:54]
and each one handles it differently a
[1:53:56]
little bit and we can probably work out
[1:53:58]
on the details as far as what to call
[1:54:01]
it.
[1:54:10]
» Council member Horner, would you just
[1:54:11]
want to propose these general terms and
[1:54:13]
then I'll incorporate them into an
[1:54:16]
amended ordinance for the second
[1:54:17]
reading?
[1:54:20]
No, we just vote on the amendment then
[1:54:22]
rather than typing it up now.
[1:54:23]
>> Me, too. Yes, absolutely.
[1:54:28]
» All right. So, I have a motion and a
[1:54:29]
second for amendment.
[1:54:31]
>> We have quick discussion
[1:54:33]
>> and Paul, I was just going to come to
[1:54:35]
you.
[1:54:35]
>> No, just traditionally there's
[1:54:38]
discussion following a second. Just like
[1:54:40]
to be clear. What does that do to
[1:54:42]
tonight's action?
[1:54:44]
Does that replace tonight's action?
[1:54:46]
Because what we're doing is tacking an
[1:54:48]
amendment on a proposal to modify. It
[1:54:52]
seems like that has the potential to get
[1:54:54]
muddy.
[1:54:56]
>> Well, we're not going to eliminate it.
[1:54:59]
That's the modification is instead of
[1:55:00]
eliminate it, we're going to modify it.
[1:55:02]
We're going to continue it, but we're
[1:55:04]
going to do it in the meeting instead of
[1:55:07]
out of the meeting.
[1:55:09]
basically
[1:55:12]
» and so the basic format public is still
[1:55:14]
free to speak. Come and speak.
[1:55:18]
>> It stays the same.
[1:55:19]
>> Thank you.
[1:55:20]
>> And I will be happy to work with anybody
[1:55:23]
else on the council to make sure we get
[1:55:24]
the leg language right. And we have two
[1:55:26]
more readings that it's got to come
[1:55:28]
before these guys to make sure we're
[1:55:31]
getting it right. Two more readings and
[1:55:34]
we will not fasttrack this one.
[1:55:36]
>> I'd love to help.
[1:55:40]
I have a motion.
[1:55:42]
>> Go ahead.
[1:55:46]
» No, go ahead. It's been moved and
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seconded.
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>> Then you will be coming back as a
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modified with that amendment. So then we
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would need to just for clarifications, I
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know we've all been encouraged to say
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no, we would in fact vote for this first
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time and then at the second reading it
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will be modified.
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So what happens clarification? [snorts]
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Correct.
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>> What what would happen then to August
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public comment?
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» Okay. So we're we're going to continue
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the end of August. We'll do normal
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public comment. Third reading. We'll
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roll it back into the council agenda.
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» Right.
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Would it make any more sense to just
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continue this item as opposed to holding
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the first reading tonight?
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You want to Well, we have a motion on a
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second.
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I have a motion and a second. Now you
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have to cast your vote.
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The motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor
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All right. Thank you.
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Yep.
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» Well, we have to vote it as amended
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first, don't we?
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Yes, we need a we need a motion for the
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first reading as amended.
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» Do I have that?
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Councilman Jensen,
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>> I will make the motion to hold first
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reading war 5755 as amended.
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>> Councilman Marsh,
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>> I'll second that.
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» That motion carries 8 to zero.
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Ordinance number 5755, an ordinance of
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the city of Fremont, Nebraska, repealing
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and replacing chapter 2, article 1
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section of the Fremont Municipal Code
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regarding open public comment periods
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and formal council study sessions and
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all other ordinances or parts of
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ordinances in conflict with this
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ordinance, providing for severability
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and providing when this ordinance shall
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be in full force in effect first
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reading.
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» Thank you.
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Okay. On item number 21, resolution
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2026-205
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amending master fee schedule to support
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changes to the ordinance 5749 approved
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at the July 28 26th meeting
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council members von Baron and Gano item.
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>> Now this is just a followup to what we
[1:59:02]
approved at the last meeting as we were
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working through the animal control
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ordinances. Uh we've obviously times
[1:59:09]
change. Uh we've one of the things that
[1:59:12]
we found is Fremont has proportionally
[1:59:16]
per population probably a larger animal
[1:59:20]
control challenge than most cities of
[1:59:22]
comparable size. And so we visited with
[1:59:25]
officer Steamer. She had a heavy hand in
[1:59:29]
the advice, a very good constructive
[1:59:32]
heavy hand in the advice, advising us
[1:59:34]
what she felt would be required to
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change some behaviors to discourage, to
[1:59:39]
enable enforcement, that kind of thing.
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So that's what you see in front of you.
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It's you can see what the uh fees have
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been in the past. We added a couple of
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new categories and tried to no modify
[1:59:52]
the system references so those were more
[1:59:54]
clear. So, it's fairly straightforward
[1:59:57]
matter. It's just an updated version of
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fees and assessments for offenses.
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» Okay, Councilman her.
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>> Um, thanks, Mayor. I have no questions
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really. Um, and I just want to thank
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Paul and Sally for the hard work and all
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the other folks that who were part of
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this. And um I I'm not good at the
[2:00:20]
Golden Globe stuff because I never
[2:00:21]
remember who all to thank. But um um you
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guys did a lot of work. We appreciate
[2:00:26]
it. My only comment is one word of
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caution and I shared this with you guys
[2:00:30]
earlier. What's a colony? Um you know,
[2:00:33]
where does that definition begin? Um you
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know, is it five, is it eight, you know,
[2:00:38]
etc. Um just a word of caution, that
[2:00:41]
could be an issue at some point in the
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future I could see arising is what is a
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colony? And I don't know how you get at
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that, but we just have to be mindful of
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that.
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Well noted.
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» Any other questions?
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» Just a general answer to your question.
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Fremont does have specific limits on
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numbers of dogs and cats that can be
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housed. And so if somebody's maybe
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[clears throat] has a couple cats that
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they're feeding on the back porch and
[2:01:14]
they're over the limit, that may not be
[2:01:16]
a colony. Uh if they've got 15 or 20,
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which is not uncommon, that becomes a
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colony. So there's some officer
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discretion involved.
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I'll take uh comments from the public.
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state your name and address.
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>> Right, 1537 Brewer Drive. Um, I just
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wanted to make sure that you guys
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understand what you're doing here with
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this increase to the master fee
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schedule. Um, so the colonies that are
[2:02:03]
in question, the cat colony that are in
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question here, let's not forget that
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most of the people that feed the stray
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cats are ones that are lower income.
[2:02:18]
They have no no, you know, like
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interaction really with the outside
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world much except for those cats. And so
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they're already low income. And now
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we're going to raise not only are we
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going to make them get a permit so that
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you know where all the cats are when we
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don't even have a program in place right
[2:02:34]
now to control the cats that we already
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have and you guys are only seeing the
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public only sees 20% of what is actually
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out there. So the rest lives in you know
[2:02:46]
underground and all that stuff. So I
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mean I really don't think that this is
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the right option to go. The colony kept
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caretaker permits should have never been
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in place to begin with, but just keep in
[2:02:58]
mind that those guys, they're usually
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the lower income people and now we're
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going to find them for trying to feed an
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animal. It's not very nice.
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If
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>> I could just comment on that briefly.
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>> Yes.
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>> Respond to that.
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>> We got another
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>> Oh, I'm I'm sorry. Excuse me.
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Having been here for a couple years,
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might as well make it good. I'm Susan
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Shikovas, 1805 North D Street here in
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Fremont. Um, somebody please correct me
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after I'm finished or whoever wants to
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speak after, but there's no fee attached
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to that. Um, some of us have then been
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part of the spay and neuter release
[2:03:40]
program and have ear tipped cats and I I
[2:03:45]
can't control the raccoon that comes and
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sleeps underneath the porch or the
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possums that kind of hibernate
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underneath the other porch in somewhat
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of a heated box. But um, a colony is
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permitted and all the person has to do
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is go get the permit. according to what
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was printed in the agenda tonight. I'm
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not aware that this any charge, but
[2:04:05]
again, please correct me if I'm wrong.
[2:04:08]
Thank you.
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>> Thank you.
[2:04:12]
Anybody else on this?
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>> Close the public comment.
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>> Um, I would like to comment.
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>> Please,
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>> just uh because Susan Jacobus uh pointed
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it out, the colony caretaker caretaker
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permit fee was $150. That's the current
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and we're recommending zero for the very
[2:04:32]
same reasons that you brought up because
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they care for those cats. They love
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them. They provide food for them. So,
[2:04:40]
it's gone down to zero.
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» Paul, did you have a comment?
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>> And that's I think that's the point
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because we didn't want to discourage
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people from it. The only penalty now
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will be if that becomes a nuisance. the
[2:04:57]
first time it becomes a nuisance then
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they do issue a permit and then it goes
[2:05:01]
from there. So that's
[2:05:04]
councilwoman is exactly right. The other
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thing is we noticed uh last year we
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brought a discussion item regarding
[2:05:11]
feral cat control and it is a problem in
[2:05:14]
some areas of Fremont. uh we realized
[2:05:18]
that we approved the concept but there
[2:05:20]
was no formal vote on the control
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project or the formal control parameters
[2:05:26]
the things that would have to be done so
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we will be bringing that to the next
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meeting to formalize that asking your
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support I will tell you it's changed
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going into it I thought what in the
[2:05:38]
world we're staying and neutering cats
[2:05:40]
and then turning them back out makes no
[2:05:42]
sense once you think through it it's
[2:05:45]
worth doing So, we'll be bringing that
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to the next meeting.
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>> Thank you.
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>> Any other discussion from councel?
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» If not, I'll take a motion.
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» Councilman Vaughn,
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>> I'll make a motion to approve.
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Councilman
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>> Her, I'll second.
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That motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor.
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» All right. Thank you. Item number 22,
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ordinance 5756, amending the food and
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beverage occupation tax. First reading.
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Staff.
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>> Good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of
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council. Jody Sanders, city
[2:06:40]
administrator. Um what you have before
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you is the first reading of an ordinance
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that would amend the uh food and
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beverage occupation tax rate. Um
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previously um it had been it when this
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was first passed in 2015 the rate was
[2:06:57]
1.75 and that was established so that we
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would not go over the $700,000 limit
[2:07:05]
that had been placed by uh the
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legislature.
[2:07:10]
Um since that time we've had to bring
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back to council requests to reduce it to
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stay with underneath the 700,000 limit.
[2:07:20]
Um in 2025 uh the as part of uh kind of
[2:07:27]
an omnimous bill there was a section
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that took out the um the lid on of
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$700,000 on new occupation taxes. And so
[2:07:37]
without that lid in place,
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um the the city could choose to raise
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the rate back closer to where it was
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originally. Um most communities that
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have this are at least at a 1.5 if
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Omaha's is actually at a 2.5
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um tax rate. Um, one of the reasons why
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we wanted to bring this uh to the
[2:08:04]
council for consideration is um we've
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been visiting with uh council members
[2:08:10]
talking with them about the 2027 budget
[2:08:13]
and the deficit that we're in right
[2:08:16]
heading into 2027.
[2:08:19]
And we recognize that it's u not fair to
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put the complete burden of of of
[2:08:27]
the cost of running the city on uh
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property taxpayers
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where a food and beverage tax is not
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only paid by citizens, but it's paid by
[2:08:38]
anyone that is eating in our community.
[2:08:42]
Meaning the folks that come for um the
[2:08:45]
tournaments on the weekends and those
[2:08:47]
kinds of things. they're purchasing food
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and um likely paying either they're
[2:08:52]
paying the tax or the restaurant is
[2:08:53]
paying the tax on their behalf. Um so it
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kind of spreads the the burden a little
[2:08:59]
bit. Um as well as uh you know just
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looking for ways so that we don't have
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to have such reliance on property taxes
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because in visiting with all of you
[2:09:12]
you've all expressed uh concern that we
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don't
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tax people out of their homes. you know,
[2:09:20]
the the city receives um a small portion
[2:09:24]
of the overall property tax levy of only
[2:09:26]
we only receive 16% of what's levied,
[2:09:29]
but still you were all clear you wanted
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to do your part. This is one way that we
[2:09:34]
can get to the point where um perhaps we
[2:09:37]
won't have to go um quite so high on uh
[2:09:41]
our property tax request um because we'd
[2:09:44]
be receiving uh the the revenue from
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this. We're currently at 1% and we are
[2:09:50]
collecting
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slightly over $700,000. Now,
[2:09:56]
we have not been strictly enforcing it
[2:10:00]
uh the the tax because we really
[2:10:02]
shouldn't be collecting more than is uh
[2:10:06]
more than that $700,000 cap. That was
[2:10:08]
why we had not been um res, you know,
[2:10:12]
being very strict about our enforcement.
[2:10:15]
We have started the enforcement process.
[2:10:18]
Um the city staff has started the
[2:10:20]
enforcement process which will yes bring
[2:10:23]
in additional revenue but not to the
[2:10:26]
extent that if you change the uh tax
[2:10:29]
rate it would uh bring in at a bare
[2:10:32]
minimum we know $700,000. And that's
[2:10:36]
essentially $700,000 in property tax
[2:10:38]
relief. And that's why we felt being
[2:10:41]
good stewards of the public finances,
[2:10:43]
this was something that that we should
[2:10:44]
bring to your attention and um offer as your for your consideration tonight.
[2:10:52]
>> Questions from council. Councilman
[2:10:53]
Jensen.
[2:10:55]
>> Yeah, thank you. I just wanted to want
[2:10:57]
to touch on a couple things and yes, we
[2:10:59]
have all had these private meetings. We
[2:11:01]
all know what we're facing in 27 and as
[2:11:04]
you said this is part of
[2:11:06]
kind of spreading out the pain so
[2:11:08]
everybody gets gets a little taste of it
[2:11:10]
I guess. Uh my question was and you kind
[2:11:13]
of brought touched on that how uh how
[2:11:16]
compliant food trucks and been with this
[2:11:19]
tax and that and I was going to ask also
[2:11:22]
about the uh uh hotel rooms. I know
[2:11:24]
municipalities like to tax hotel rooms
[2:11:26]
because there ain't anybody that lives
[2:11:27]
here that's in them.
[2:11:30]
So we currently do tax hotel rooms. I
[2:11:33]
believe the rate is 4% isn't it Jen for
[2:11:37]
hotel tax. So we are receiving uh the benefit from those uh lodging taxes
[2:11:43]
as well. Um and the one of the one of
[2:11:47]
the ways that we're bringing um
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enforcement action is simply by having a
[2:11:54]
kind of a
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cross matching
[2:11:59]
what we have for mobile food vendors
[2:12:02]
versus who's paying the tax because the
[2:12:05]
food the mobile food vendors are subject
[2:12:07]
to the tax as well. So, that's that's
[2:12:10]
one of the ways that we're reaching out
[2:12:12]
to folks and saying maybe you're not
[2:12:14]
aware, but you need to be collecting and uh remitting this pro this uh
[2:12:19]
occupation tax.
[2:12:23]
» Councilman Marsh,
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>> so what you're saying is there's
[2:12:26]
restaurants out there probably that are
[2:12:28]
collecting it but not paying in, right?
[2:12:31]
>> Unfortunately, that's a possibility. Um,
[2:12:33]
we would, you know, if if anybody has
[2:12:36]
that suspicion, certainly please do let
[2:12:38]
us know. Um, I think that that, um, as
[2:12:43]
staff, I'm certainly paying much more
[2:12:46]
attention to the receipt that I get. Um,
[2:12:49]
one thing to note, you know, the the
[2:12:51]
sales tax currently is at uh, should
[2:12:54]
show up on your receipt as 7%. That's uh
[2:12:58]
five and a half to the state and one and
[2:13:01]
a half percent to the city. And then the
[2:13:04]
occupation tax of 1% or um you know if
[2:13:07]
this is passed then it would be 2%. But
[2:13:09]
there's also the enhanced employment uh
[2:13:13]
tax that's on at the mall um for and but
[2:13:17]
that only applies to prepared food,
[2:13:21]
right? Yes. As well. So that's where um
[2:13:27]
Are you sure?
[2:13:29]
>> Come on up, Jen.
[2:13:31]
>> Hey, Jen, why don't you come on up?
[2:13:35]
>> Thank you, Jen.
[2:13:37]
Nab, finance director.
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» Honorable mayor, city council, Jennifer
[2:13:47]
Nab, finance director. So, the mall
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occupation tax uh is for businesses out
[2:13:55]
at the mall and it it's it's on the
[2:13:56]
Dunham receipts. It's on shoe sensation,
[2:14:00]
it's on um also prepared foods, but
[2:14:02]
there are some items excluded. So, it's
[2:14:05]
not at the gas station, it's not on
[2:14:07]
groceries, it's not on foods um anything
[2:14:10]
coming out of a vending machine or like
[2:14:13]
a candy bar or whatever. So there are
[2:14:15]
it's not liquor um but the majority of
[2:14:18]
what's being sold out the mall is
[2:14:20]
subject to the mall occupation tax
[2:14:24]
according to the ordinance that was
[2:14:25]
passed.
[2:14:29]
» Do you have a number of what you think
[2:14:32]
that we're not getting? I mean with the
[2:14:34]
percentage going up obviously that's
[2:14:35]
pretty easy but as far as like how many
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are not
[2:14:38]
>> number of as far as dollars but we did
[2:14:41]
compare um restaurant licenses with
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who's paying food and beverage and I've
[2:14:47]
got um 17 businesses that are behind or
[2:14:52]
not paying and then we've also got a
[2:14:53]
number of mobile food vendors as well
[2:14:56]
that will be um you know we still need
[2:14:58]
to reach out and
[2:15:03]
But it's there's some
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>> revenue. Yeah. Thank you.
[2:15:10]
» Uh Councilman her.
[2:15:12]
>> Uh thanks, Mayor. Um
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you know, we talked already a little bit
[2:15:16]
about this and and um the one thing that
[2:15:19]
I would say is that if there are folks
[2:15:22]
collect tax and not turning it in, we
[2:15:25]
have to address that obviously pretty um
[2:15:28]
pretty swiftly and pretty decisively is
[2:15:30]
what I would hope. Thank you.
[2:15:35]
» Anybody else?
[2:15:41]
» Okay. Comment from public.
[2:15:51]
Please state your name and address.
[2:15:56]
» Good evening, mayor and members of the
[2:15:58]
council. My member, my name is Dylan
[2:16:00]
Martinez, residing at 1435 East 12th
[2:16:03]
Street here in Fremont. I am standing
[2:16:05]
before you or sitting tonight. I'm used
[2:16:08]
to standing from previous formats that
[2:16:10]
we've had. Um really do like how
[2:16:13]
everything has changed. Uh timer right
[2:16:15]
there in front of us.
[2:16:17]
But uh I'm sitting here tonight before
[2:16:19]
you to address the proposed 1% food and
[2:16:22]
beverage tax increase. And I urge you to
[2:16:24]
vote no. We need to look closely at the
[2:16:26]
economic environment our residents are
[2:16:28]
navigating right now. Inflation has
[2:16:30]
squeezed household dollars to record
[2:16:32]
levels and working families in Fremont
[2:16:34]
are watching every single dollar. Fast
[2:16:36]
food prices have already risen to what
[2:16:38]
sitdown restaurants used to cost. When
[2:16:41]
basic dining out has become a luxury for
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the average family, adding another tax
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on top of their check is not going to
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spur economic growth. In fact, it'll
[2:16:50]
likely have the opposite effect. It'll
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dissuade actual residents from eating
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out directly,
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hurting our local restaurant owners,
[2:16:58]
server staff, and small business
[2:16:59]
community. It may have an unended side
[2:17:02]
effect of spurring extra business when
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we have people coming into town, but the
[2:17:07]
people that actually know about this
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will likely just try to buy at the
[2:17:11]
grocery store and make the $200 that
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they have, you know, last a week for a
[2:17:16]
family of four. Um, you know, that used
[2:17:18]
to be a thing. But, um, now to be fair,
[2:17:22]
I do want to acknowledge that Fremont
[2:17:24]
has seen some serious positive
[2:17:26]
development over the last few years.
[2:17:28]
That progress is welcome. But, recent
[2:17:30]
development does not erase or make up
[2:17:32]
for the nearly two decades of wasteful
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spending, questionable deals, and
[2:17:35]
administrative mismanagement by past
[2:17:37]
position holders. Taxpayers are tied.
[2:17:40]
Taxpayers are tired of being treated as
[2:17:42]
a bottomless piggy bank every time the
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city needs to cover a budget gap after
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years of fiscal red flags. Fremont needs
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to demonstrate that it can manage its
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existing revenue responsibly before
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reaching deeper into the pockets of its
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citizens.
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If this council is unwilling to vote no
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outright tonight, then I ask you to at
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least lessen listen to the community and
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amend this proposal down to a quarter
[2:18:05]
percent or half percent or some
[2:18:06]
incremental raise up to the 2%. Cut it
[2:18:10]
back and make that smaller figure work.
[2:18:12]
Show the taxpayers that you are willing
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to compromise and exercise real fiscal
[2:18:16]
discipline. Fix internal spending
[2:18:18]
priorities, protect our local small
[2:18:19]
businesses, and do not place another
[2:18:21]
financial burden on the dining tables of
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Fremont families. Alternatively,
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if as I'm hearing on the comments
[2:18:28]
tonight that uh there seems to be issues
[2:18:31]
with enforcement and making sure that
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these taxes are collected on a lot of
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these business um food business owners,
[2:18:37]
which are a lot easier to get a food
[2:18:39]
business license, to get a truck, to do
[2:18:41]
a pop-up vendor on a corner and collect
[2:18:43]
every one of these taxes. Maybe
[2:18:45]
alternatively to this, we should look
[2:18:47]
into a tax on specifically alcoholic
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beverages. We were talking tonight on
[2:18:52]
passing um you know renewing a lot of
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these licenses. You know what's 1% onto
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a bar for people going out and having a
[2:19:00]
pint? That's already $10. If they have
[2:19:02]
the money to go out to the bar, that's
[2:19:04]
way different than having the money to
[2:19:07]
go out to lunch on a break when you're
[2:19:09]
at work and you need a quick bite to eat
[2:19:12]
just to continue functioning from
[2:19:13]
day-to-day society. You know, obviously
[2:19:16]
fast food is a convenience. Um, but
[2:19:19]
there are ways that we can find
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money without just putting on a tax
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every single time or finding um, you
[2:19:29]
know, finding everyone. So, thank you so
[2:19:31]
much and hope you have a great day.
[2:19:36]
» Uh, anybody else in this?
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Gary Delaney, 2940 Lever Street. Uh I
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did not come here to speak on this item
[2:19:51]
tonight. So my knowledge of it is based
[2:19:53]
on what we've heard in the last few
[2:19:54]
minutes, but what I've heard is that we
[2:19:57]
have 17 businesses, which I consider a
[2:20:00]
large number, not properly paying this
[2:20:03]
tax. So our solution
[2:20:06]
is to increase the tax on those that are
[2:20:10]
doing their part in paying it rather
[2:20:11]
than figuring out a way to enforce it
[2:20:14]
and collect what is already due. Uh it
[2:20:17]
just seems like a more logical solution.
[2:20:19]
Let's come up with a way to make the
[2:20:21]
levy that's already there work. maybe
[2:20:23]
put some fines, stiff fines in place for
[2:20:26]
those that are not paying it properly as
[2:20:29]
opposed to raising another tax on the
[2:20:32]
law abiding taxpayer to the city. Thank
[2:20:35]
you. Thank you.
[2:20:38]
>> Bond.
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Anybody else in
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that I'll close public comment.
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>> Um so just a couple of clarifications.
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Uh first of all, as a reminder, we were
[2:20:54]
unable to enforce
[2:20:56]
um compliance because what we were
[2:20:59]
collecting was already up against the
[2:21:01]
cap. So now that that has been removed,
[2:21:04]
we are moving swiftly to enforce um the
[2:21:09]
uh budget deficit is uh very clearly in
[2:21:14]
my mind as finance director not because
[2:21:16]
of overspending or missspending. It is
[2:21:21]
very very simply we are required to do
[2:21:24]
comparables
[2:21:26]
um for our public safety as an example.
[2:21:29]
We also looked at market rates as far as
[2:21:31]
what it costs to pay our police and fire
[2:21:35]
as we're competing with Omaha and
[2:21:37]
Lincoln. Those salary increases were
[2:21:40]
millions of dollars. In addition,
[2:21:42]
unfunded
[2:21:44]
retirement mandates from the state. Uh
[2:21:47]
our police has a match on the retirement
[2:21:52]
of 9%.
[2:21:53]
Um on fire that uh this last year was uh
[2:21:58]
14%
[2:21:59]
that is going to 15%
[2:22:02]
match October 1st. Now remember FIRE
[2:22:06]
doesn't get social security. So you've
[2:22:08]
got six and a half there that others get
[2:22:11]
but that's still an additional 9%.
[2:22:15]
And uh in addition, our insurance costs
[2:22:18]
went up about 30% last year. It's and
[2:22:23]
from um IT costs, cyber and other
[2:22:26]
things. Uh it it's these costs that have
[2:22:30]
gone up. And that's really not decisions
[2:22:32]
you have made. It's not um it's it's
[2:22:37]
comparables. It's state unfunded items.
[2:22:42]
it is market rates on insurance and and
[2:22:45]
that's you know having costs go up
[2:22:48]
millions of dollars where our property
[2:22:50]
tax goes up by 600k it creates a gap and
[2:22:54]
this is a good way um to fill it people
[2:22:56]
do have a choice whether they eat out or
[2:22:58]
not um this is a way for us to collect
[2:23:01]
from folks coming into our community uh
[2:23:04]
because if we don't do it here our other
[2:23:07]
option is property
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Councilman her.
[2:23:14]
>> Thank you, Mayor. Um, you know, we're
[2:23:17]
going to have a lot of opportunities to
[2:23:19]
talk about all this stuff coming up
[2:23:21]
because of the U budget um discussions
[2:23:25]
that we will be having in the future.
[2:23:26]
So, um I don't want to go into that. I
[2:23:29]
do want to um support some of what you
[2:23:31]
have said just from my discussions and
[2:23:33]
what I've been able to um kind of just
[2:23:37]
read between the lines here. Um, first
[2:23:40]
off, there was a lid. We were not
[2:23:42]
allowed to collect more than $700,000.
[2:23:45]
That's been removed and so we are now
[2:23:47]
going to see how much of that we can go
[2:23:50]
and get and we're going to try to get it
[2:23:52]
all obviously. Um, but there's also a
[2:23:55]
shortfall that's coming and we need to
[2:23:57]
make up for that. This is an elective
[2:23:59]
tax um, which I like rather than a tax
[2:24:03]
that we have no choice in which is our
[2:24:05]
property tax. And if I have to make a
[2:24:08]
decision one or the other. I'm going to
[2:24:10]
probably choose the elective tax every
[2:24:11]
day. Obviously, we're not going to have
[2:24:13]
the luxury of making the choice between
[2:24:15]
one or the other, but we can certainly
[2:24:17]
lessen the impact on one by choosing the
[2:24:20]
other. And I do think that that seems to
[2:24:23]
be a more prudent choice that is going
[2:24:26]
to lessen the overall impact that's
[2:24:29]
coming at us. Um the um inflation
[2:24:33]
affects everyone. It doesn't just affect
[2:24:35]
the private citizen. um it affects
[2:24:38]
everything and that's what we're still
[2:24:41]
facing. So, thank you
[2:24:44]
Councilwoman Ganon.
[2:24:46]
>> Well spoken and I I will just ask a
[2:24:50]
question because this is one of the
[2:24:51]
first times publicly we've been
[2:24:53]
addressing actually the upcoming budget
[2:24:56]
and saying we are going to experience a
[2:24:59]
shortfall. Can you give me a time frame
[2:25:02]
when we'll start being able to present
[2:25:04]
some of the same information to public?
[2:25:08]
Uh yeah. So, uh August 20th, we get the
[2:25:13]
valuation from the county assessor and
[2:25:16]
we also find out what the growth is. And
[2:25:19]
as a reminder, if we've got 10 houses in
[2:25:21]
town and we built two new houses, it's
[2:25:24]
those two new houses that are the
[2:25:26]
growth, not any valuation increases on
[2:25:29]
the existing houses. So, we'll we'll get
[2:25:32]
that information. We have gotten from
[2:25:35]
the state already that the inflation
[2:25:38]
factor that when they change the laws on
[2:25:41]
property tax, as an example, because I'm assuming that's really what you're
[2:25:44]
asking about, uh, is 5.26%. 26%. So we
[2:25:49]
then need the uh growth percentage so
[2:25:53]
that we can calculate um in the new
[2:25:55]
rules in the past for example if the
[2:25:58]
overall valuation of the city went up
[2:26:00]
20%
[2:26:02]
council could choose as long as we
[2:26:04]
didn't go above 45 cents you could take
[2:26:06]
it. Um the new rules say it is last
[2:26:09]
year's property tax and you can only
[2:26:12]
increase it by the growth and then
[2:26:14]
inflation. can't take um the extra
[2:26:17]
valuation increases on people's homes
[2:26:19]
that are existing. Um and so we'll be
[2:26:22]
calculating that uh this year once we
[2:26:25]
get that valuation and then we'll
[2:26:27]
hopefully be able to present it just as
[2:26:30]
soon as possible. Um after that the next
[2:26:33]
>> I like the old better but thank you for
[2:26:36]
explaining that.
[2:26:38]
>> Councilman Vaughn,
[2:26:39]
>> just a point of clarification if I
[2:26:41]
could. This does include not only food
[2:26:43]
services but drinking places.
[2:26:47]
All inclusive, correct?
[2:26:48]
>> Food and beverage.
[2:26:50]
>> Thank you.
[2:26:53]
Any other questions from council?
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If not, I'll make a motion.
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Councilman her. I'll make the motion to
[2:27:05]
approve the first reading ordinance 5756
[2:27:08]
a meeting amending the food and beverage
[2:27:10]
tax food and beverage occupation tax.
[2:27:15]
>> Councilman Jensen
[2:27:16]
>> and I will second.
[2:27:25]
» That motion carries 8 to zero.
[2:27:27]
Ordinance number 5756, an ordinance to
[2:27:30]
amend chapter 14 of the Fremont Nebraska
[2:27:32]
Municipal Code. Ordinance number 5604,
[2:27:34]
increasing the rate of city's food and
[2:27:35]
beverage occupation tax by amending
[2:27:36]
section 143- 14-302A
[2:27:39]
collection and repealing any parts of
[2:27:41]
ordinance to be conflicted with and to
[2:27:42]
provide for publication at the effective
[2:27:43]
date of this ordinance first reading.
[2:27:49]
» Thank you. I'll take a motion to
[2:27:50]
adjourn. Councilman Jensen. Well, I was
[2:27:53]
going to make a motion to suspend the
[2:27:54]
rules, move to third reading, but
[2:27:59]
there any discussion on that.
[2:28:02]
That's my motion.
[2:28:06]
>> I'll second her. Second,
[2:28:30]
that motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor,
[2:28:33]
Ordinance number 5756, an ordinance to
[2:28:35]
amend chapter 14 of the Fremont,
[2:28:36]
Nebraska Municipal Code, Ordinance
[2:28:38]
number 5604, increasing the rate of the
[2:28:39]
city's food and beverage occupation tax
[2:28:40]
by amending section 14-302A collection
[2:28:43]
and repealing any parts of ordinances in
[2:28:45]
conflict or within provided for
[2:28:46]
publication in the effective date of
[2:28:47]
this ordinance final rating.
[2:28:52]
Cast your final vote.
[2:29:01]
That motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor,
[2:29:03]
ordinance number 5756 is approved.
[2:29:08]
» I'll take a motion to adjurnn.
[2:29:09]
>> I'll make that motion.
[2:29:10]
>> Corner.
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>> Council Jensen.
[2:29:13]
>> Second.
[2:29:18]
» That motion carries 8 to zero. Mayor,
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>> we are
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That's it.