[0:01] Hey, Greenville, welcome to

[0:02] another episode of

[0:02] Greenville Eats.

[0:04] My name is Ashley.

[0:05] I'm your host, and we are here

[0:05] with Jonathan Bryant from the

[0:08] Community Engagement Division.

[0:10] How are you, Jonathan?

[0:10] I'm doing great.

[0:11] Yay! I'm so excited

[0:11] to have you here.

[0:13] So welcome to the show.

[0:14] Tell us first and foremost a

[0:15] little bit about what you do

[0:17] for the city of Greenville.

[0:17] Okay. So for the city of

[0:18] Greenville, I'm the community

[0:21] engagement specialist.

[0:21] And I go out in the community

[0:22] and engage with citizens,

[0:23] business owners and community

[0:24] leaders to help figure out

[0:25] their point of view and to see

[0:28] different ways that those can

[0:31] be implemented within the city.

[0:32] Yes, you're out and

[0:33] about all the time.

[0:35] All the time.

[0:36] That's like matches your

[0:36] personality like perfectly.

[0:37] Because you I just never

[0:39] see you without a smile.

[0:40] And you never you don't

[0:41] ever ignore people.

[0:43] Like, if you see somebody,

[0:43] you're gonna stop

[0:44] and talk to them.

[0:45] You have to speak.

[0:46] No, I don't have to.

[0:47] No.

[0:48] That's true, that's true.

[0:49] No. But that's just so

[0:49] great for your personality.

[0:51] I love it so much.

[0:52] So, um, and how long

[0:52] have you been doing that?

[0:54] For now.

[0:55] So I've been doing

[0:55] that since JANUARY.

[0:57] Okay. Yep.

[0:57] And and I really love it.

[0:58] Yeah. That's so cool.

[0:59] So let's get into this

[1:00] because it smells amazing.

[1:00] So what have you

[1:02] made for us today.

[1:04] So this is a Korean beef bowl.

[1:05] Uh, it's made with ground beef

[1:06] and rice, spring onions and a

[1:11] couple spices.

[1:12] Okay, nice.

[1:13] That's awesome.

[1:13] So before we dig into this,

[1:14] we're gonna go sit down and

[1:14] have a chat with J.B.,

[1:16] and we'll be right back.

[1:37] All right.

[1:38] Welcome back.

[1:39] So we are still here with jb.

[1:39] We are getting ready to dig

[1:40] into this delicious meal.

[1:43] Um, before we do that.

[1:44] No. Jb so let's talk a little

[1:44] bit about your personal life.

[1:45] So let people relate to

[1:48] you on a personal level.

[1:49] So you recently just brought

[1:50] a little bundle of joy?

[1:54] I did.

[1:55] I did a little

[1:55] baby, Jordan Grace.

[1:58] She's wonderful.

[1:59] Yep. Yep.

[2:00] She decided to come

[2:00] a little early.

[2:01] Uh, her her original birthday

[2:02] was going to be FEBRUARY 14th.

[2:05] Mhm. Uh, she came DECEMBER 21st.

[2:07] What girl come down?

[2:08] Right.

[2:09] What are you doing?

[2:10] She traded one

[2:10] holiday for another.

[2:11] Um, yeah.

[2:14] She was.

[2:15] She was excited about Santa.

[2:16] She was.

[2:17] And she was here.

[2:18] Um, it's been a great

[2:18] time, a great journey.

[2:19] Yeah. Uh, the first, you know,

[2:21] real challenge was like, you

[2:24] know, having her go to daycare

[2:25] and be away from

[2:26] us initially, so.

[2:28] Yeah. Um, but it's been great.

[2:30] She's been loving it.

[2:30] Yeah. They sent her pictures

[2:31] of us, her smiling and all

[2:33] different types of stuff.

[2:34] So.

[2:35] She's so cute.

[2:35] Yeah. She's having

[2:36] a great time, so.

[2:37] That's so awesome.

[2:38] Well, congratulations.

[2:39] Thank you.

[2:40] Um, and just to, you know,

[2:41] I know this is a, you know,

[2:43] that's a great part of it, but

[2:44] I know you like

[2:44] this part to golf.

[2:46] Oh, golf.

[2:47] Yes.

[2:48] Brian always makes fun of me

[2:48] because sports go

[2:49] sports, and so.

[2:49] Okay. So tell us about

[2:50] your love of golf.

[2:54] Okay.

[2:55] Um, I got into golf for my dad.

[2:55] Uh, so there's a

[2:57] huge size difference.

[2:59] So he was like basketball.

[3:00] Football? None of that.

[3:02] So, uh, he decided on golf.

[3:03] Okay. You know, it takes a lot

[3:05] of technique, a lot of skill.

[3:06] And he figured because I was

[3:07] big and strong on that, I

[3:07] wouldn't be willing

[3:10] to put in the time.

[3:10] But Covid happened, and I had

[3:11] nothing but time all the time.

[3:15] So I practiced all the time.

[3:15] And now I'm a

[3:16] seven handicap, so.

[3:19] I know what that means.

[3:20] Yeah. So so it's just in

[3:20] relationship to, uh, par, which

[3:25] is 72.

[3:26] So on average, the lowest score

[3:26] I've ever shot is a 78 or 79.

[3:28] And so it's seven seven

[3:31] numbers between 72 and 79.

[3:33] And so that's how you your

[3:36] handicap over 20 rounds.

[3:36] Is that is that the

[3:38] same in putt putt.

[3:40] We can add putt putt.

[3:42] Uh, we can make a whole new

[3:43] handicap system for putt putt.

[3:43] And you should

[3:45] put that together.

[3:46] And then also we can do that.

[3:47] I mean, I think you'll see

[3:48] that, but um, but also putt

[3:48] putt and mini golf

[3:51] are typically dance.

[3:53] Really?

[3:54] Oh, okay.

[3:54] I know more.

[3:55] Oh, definitely.

[3:56] Um, okay.

[3:59] Well, I was going to ask you if

[4:00] you knew anything about that,

[4:01] but I had always heard that,

[4:01] like, putt putt mini golf were

[4:02] started separately and

[4:04] or slightly different.

[4:05] But obviously that is

[4:07] not real golf at all.

[4:10] So.

[4:11] Well, you know, the interesting

[4:11] part is, you know, they both,

[4:12] you know, if they are both

[4:13] different, they both share a

[4:14] common thing in putting.

[4:15] Yeah. So uh, that in itself

[4:16] is a really big skill in golf

[4:17] because that's where a lot

[4:19] of your score comes from.

[4:20] Yeah. So they say if you can

[4:21] get really good at putting,

[4:24] you'll be really good.

[4:24] You'll be at least

[4:25] decent at golf.

[4:27] Oh, okay.

[4:27] I don't know how true

[4:28] that's actually true.

[4:28] Me. Well, how good

[4:30] are you at one?

[4:30] But, I mean, I like to

[4:31] think I'm good, but.

[4:31] Well, I mean, if

[4:33] that's the case, then.

[4:36] But it's also like, you know,

[4:37] beach town putt putt places, so.

[4:38] Well, I mean, that's also the

[4:39] best place to play golf goes to

[4:41] the beach.

[4:42] Best weathered

[4:42] sailor's new hobby.

[4:45] Activated that part.

[4:46] You can do both.

[4:47] All right, let's jump into this

[4:48] because I'm excited to give

[4:50] this a try.

[4:51] All right, let's see.

[4:52] And I haven't even had

[4:52] lunch as I'm so excited.

[4:55] Okay.

[4:57] Mhm. Mhm.

[4:59] Mhm.

[5:03] Yep.

[5:03] I'd love to see you soon.

[5:05] And this is good.

[5:06] You can mix it with uh

[5:06] different vegetables.

[5:07] Or even if you want to use

[5:08] different ground meats you

[5:10] could as well.

[5:11] Oh okay.

[5:12] Yeah. Could you use ground beef.

[5:13] Right. Mhm.

[5:14] But you can use ground

[5:14] turkey or ground chicken.

[5:16] I like that.

[5:16] This is delicious.

[5:18] And luckily there's enough

[5:19] leftover for me to

[5:19] take back to them.

[5:21] Okay. Okay.

[5:23] Well thank you so much.

[5:24] I love having you on.

[5:26] This has been great.

[5:27] It's been great.

[5:27] Sorry. You can take a breath.

[5:28] You can.

[5:32] But. Yes.

[5:33] Thank you so much

[5:33] for joining us.

[5:34] So I'm very happy to have you.

[5:35] So thank you all for watching

[5:36] and we will see you on the next

[5:40] episode of everybody.

[15:02] Hey what's up Greenville?

[15:03] Welcome to another episode

[15:03] of Greenville Eats.

[15:04] My name is Ashley and today we

[15:05] have Dominique from our human

[15:09] resources department.

[15:10] Idomeneo. How are you doing?

[15:11] Good. How are you?

[15:12] I'm excited to have you on

[15:13] because you are one of my top

[15:13] three human resources people

[15:15] that I'm just obsessed with.

[15:18] Don't tell anybody.

[15:20] Well, yeah, well, I said top

[15:20] three for a reason, but I

[15:23] didn't want to like anyway, so.

[15:23] Okay, so first and foremost,

[15:25] welcome to the show.

[15:26] I'm so, so excited to have

[15:28] you before we jump into this,

[15:29] because I'm super excited about

[15:32] this, let's talk real quick

[15:32] about what you do in hr

[15:34] for the city of Greenville.

[15:37] Yeah.

[15:38] So I'm an hr specialist three

[15:39] I've been with the city for

[15:39] seven years now, which

[15:41] doesn't feel like it at all.

[15:41] Um, I do a lot of recruitment,

[15:44] especially supporting

[15:45] recreation and parks with

[15:47] their part time staff.

[15:47] I do a lot of employee

[15:49] programs, such as computer

[15:50] purchase, tuition assistance,

[15:51] as well as like gift cards and

[15:55] wellness incentives.

[15:56] Shout out!

[15:56] Use all of those.

[15:58] Yes, and.

[15:59] Now they do help employees

[15:59] with their fmla as well.

[16:00] So I kind of have a

[16:02] mix of everything.

[16:04] Okay. All right.

[16:04] Cool okay.

[16:05] So that's awesome.

[16:06] And when do you when

[16:07] did you hit seven years.

[16:09] I will be seven years in AUGUST.

[16:10] Oh is it right around

[16:11] the corner there.

[16:12] Okay, cool I love that.

[16:13] Congrats. Um, so let's jump

[16:14] into this because

[16:16] I'm so excited.

[16:17] I love a good empanada.

[16:19] So tell us what you're making.

[16:20] Why did you decide

[16:21] on this recipe?

[16:22] And then, like, I guess

[16:24] about your ingredients.

[16:26] Because I eat so good.

[16:26] Well, my family is

[16:27] Puerto Rican, so.

[16:29] But I'm also, I joke and say I

[16:30] don't speak Spanish, so I'm a

[16:33] no sabo child, unfortunately.

[16:35] Well, it's the same.

[16:35] So my little Domingo

[16:36] every once in a while.

[16:38] Um, but this is one of the

[16:39] things that my mom used to

[16:40] make, and my dad used to make

[16:42] every single time when it was,

[16:44] like, a quick meal.

[16:45] Um, so empanadas was kind of

[16:46] dear to my heart

[16:47] because of that.

[16:47] Um, so I do a lot of people

[16:48] can do the dough from scratch.

[16:49] I like to do quick and

[16:52] easy, so this is better.

[16:54] But I have the dough.

[16:55] I do adobo sauce on and then I

[16:56] made my own sofrito, which is

[16:56] more like onions, peppers, a

[16:59] little bit of salsa flavoring

[17:03] and vinegar.

[17:04] And then I can do ground beef.

[17:05] I usually do ground turkey

[17:06] because my boyfriend likes

[17:08] turkey more than beef.

[17:10] Um, fry it in some oil.

[17:11] And then I made a mayo

[17:12] ketchup dipping sauce.

[17:14] Cool. Awesome.

[17:15] I'm so excited.

[17:16] This place is about

[17:16] to smell amazing.

[17:17] So. Okay, so let's we're gonna

[17:18] jump into cooking, and we'll be

[17:19] back in just a

[17:22] little bit with more.

[17:24] Perfect.

[17:59] Okay, so as I predicted,

[18:02] it smells amazing in here.

[18:03] Dominique has made us some beef

[18:05] empanadas, and we've got you.

[18:06] So this is ketchup and

[18:09] mayonnaise and adobo.

[18:12] Yeah.

[18:13] Mayo, ketchup.

[18:13] I love it.

[18:14] So we are gonna go sit down and

[18:16] have a chat and enjoy empanadas.

[18:19] I'm so excited.

[18:20] Me too.

[18:21] Let's go.

[18:21] Hey.

[18:22] All right.

[18:25] It's the moment of truth.

[18:26] Let's dig in to these empanadas.

[18:29] I'm so excited.

[18:30] You first.

[18:30] Wait. Which ones

[18:30] were this was I.

[18:32] Doesn't matter.

[18:33] I don't care.

[18:33] Yeah. Yeah.

[18:34] Okay. And then we

[18:34] have your sauce.

[18:36] We got to get a little sauce.

[18:37] And so while we are

[18:38] digging into this that I know

[18:39] is going to be amazing because

[18:42] it smells amazing.

[18:43] Let's talk a little

[18:43] bit about you.

[18:45] So like, tell me

[18:46] something about yourself.

[18:47] Like what do you like to

[18:47] do in your spare time?

[18:48] It's funny, I'm actually I'm a

[18:49] people person at work, but I'm

[18:50] really reserved at home, so I

[18:52] usually like to chill with a

[18:55] nice little book.

[18:55] I'm a nerd for Nintendo Switch.

[18:57] Disney Dreamlight is my game,

[18:58] my little cozy game

[18:59] or Animal Crossing?

[19:02] Oh my GOD, really?

[19:03] That's amazing.

[19:04] Um, and then I do

[19:04] like planting also.

[19:07] And other things too.

[19:09] Like like just plants, like in.

[19:11] Or do you like garden?

[19:12] Like fruits, veggies or not?

[19:14] That's really good.

[19:15] But I have a few plants.

[19:16] Like I have a monster plant

[19:16] that's surprisingly growing

[19:19] really good.

[19:19] Okay, but I kill everything

[19:20] else, so that's crazy.

[19:21] I just do succulents because

[19:24] it's really hard to kill them.

[19:27] I've killed succulents.

[19:28] I have to I'm not

[19:29] saying I haven't.

[19:32] But I have.

[19:33] But yeah, so surprisingly, my

[19:33] my share is still doing good.

[19:34] I've had her for five years,

[19:36] so she's really big, growing

[19:37] really well, and I'm

[19:39] about to propagate her.

[19:40] So that way I can

[19:41] make another plant.

[19:42] Oh my GOD, that's so exciting.

[19:44] So I'm excited for that.

[19:46] That's awesome I love that.

[19:46] Um, what kind of books

[19:47] do you like to read?

[19:50] We are in book club together.

[19:52] I do, yeah.

[19:53] So we have we've read a lot

[19:53] of like really random stuff in

[19:56] book club, but like, what's

[19:56] your go to outside of book club?

[19:57] Well, it's funny, I'm since I'm

[19:58] an avid reader, I don't have

[20:01] really a genre that I like.

[20:02] So what I do is you guys

[20:03] always make fun of me.

[20:03] If the title and the book cover

[20:05] gets me, I'll pick it up and

[20:09] read it.

[20:10] The cover opens me up to other

[20:10] things that I like to read.

[20:11] The cover is yeah,

[20:12] that's the thing.

[20:13] Now I'm a big like

[20:15] rom com girly,

[20:16] but you know, the

[20:17] cover does get me.

[20:19] If the cover is cute, I'm

[20:21] gonna I'm gonna pick it up.

[20:24] So I do love a good mystery.

[20:26] Oh, really?

[20:27] Yeah, I like history.

[20:28] I like the ones that when you

[20:28] read it till the end, you don't

[20:29] realize that the end is

[20:30] going to be that way.

[20:31] Yeah, like those

[20:32] type of mysteries.

[20:33] Like the one Frieda McFadden

[20:34] book we read in book club.

[20:37] That got me.

[20:38] That twist at the end.

[20:39] That got me.

[20:40] That was crazy.

[20:41] I feel like the book Silent

[20:41] Patient is also one of those

[20:45] books by her.

[20:45] Was it by Frida McFadden?

[20:46] I can't remember the author,

[20:47] but it was also another one

[20:47] that at the end you're

[20:48] like, what in the world?

[20:50] Never would have thought of it.

[20:51] Thrown for a loop.

[20:52] That's so crazy.

[20:54] I love that.

[20:54] That's exciting though.

[20:55] Let's let's dig in.

[20:57] Let's see.

[20:58] Let's see about this.

[20:59] I'm. I'm so pumped.

[20:59] i also haven't eaten

[21:01] lunch yet, so that helps.

[21:03] Me neither.

[21:03] Okay.

[21:06] Mm

[21:08] mm mm mm.

[21:10] Happy dance.

[21:12] Yeah.

[21:13] Mm.

[21:17] That's amazing.

[21:18] Thank you.

[21:19] Very quick.

[21:22] Easy to make.

[21:23] So just.

[21:24] I'm gonna just take

[21:24] this for, uh, leftovers.

[21:27] Thank you.

[21:28] You're more than

[21:28] welcome to take it.

[21:30] I can make plenty more at home.

[21:31] There's a lot of beef

[21:32] leftover, too, so I might just.

[21:34] You know, take some extra.

[21:35] Oh, my GOD, that's so good.

[21:36] Thank you.

[21:37] So thank you so much for

[21:38] coming on and chatting.

[21:40] Of course, telling us a little

[21:40] bit about your job,

[21:41] extracurriculars.

[21:42] Sorry, I'm trying to not be

[21:43] gross, but also, um, okay.

[21:48] So thank you.

[21:49] I appreciate you so much.

[21:49] Also, again, top

[21:50] three, top three hr.

[21:54] Humans I love you.

[21:55] Thank you for having me.

[21:56] Yes.

[21:57] Okay.

[21:57] Um, thank you guys so much for

[21:58] joining us for another episode

[21:59] of Greenville Eats, and we

[22:00] will be back soon to bring you

[22:04] something sweet.

[22:05] Bye bye.

[22:21] No bloopers.

[22:22] Okay.

[22:23] Whatever you need to do to.

[22:26] Cause, you know, I'm gonna be a

[22:27] little intense because I'm not

[22:29] used to it.

[22:29] You're good.

[22:30] You will.

[22:32] Be like, okay, now.

[22:34] Be like Dom.

[22:35] Come on, lighten

[22:35] up a little bit.

[22:37] We'll give you a bonus.

[22:38] I'll give you my

[22:38] biometric screen.

[22:41] I'll give you my gift card.

[22:47] There you go.

[22:48] Okay. I'm trying.

[22:49] What is she used to do

[22:49] with high school music?

[34:19] Okay, now I

[34:20] m going to call the

[34:21] meeting to order, and we

[34:21] re

[34:24] going to do roll call. Andrew

[34:26] Morehead. Present.

[34:29] David Dennard present. Matthew

[34:32] Cox, Wiley. Handcock. Susan

[34:36] Daughtry. Sir Sidney McLeod.

[34:40] Rebecca smith. Kamari. Carter.

[34:45] Green. We have quorum.

[34:47] All right, so as I looked at

[34:49] the agenda, do we have an

[34:53] approval? Are you ready?

[34:55] Approval.

[34:55] I

[34:56] ll move. Approval.

[34:56] I

[34:57] ll.

[35:00] Okay. Thank you. Um.

[35:01] We have to vote on that.

[35:04] Uh, so everybody agreed.

[35:08] I.

[35:15] Um, thanks for that. Um, Scott.

[35:16] See?

[35:16] No.

[35:16] He

[35:17] s not here.

[35:18] He sent us. I

[35:19] ll step in for

[35:20] him.

[35:22] Okay.

[35:22] You don

[35:23] t have anything for ex

[35:24] parte. So.

[35:25] Okay.

[35:25] You

[35:27] re on. Okay. Move forward.

[35:27] We don

[35:28] t have to close.

[35:30] Okay. So, is there anybody have

[35:32] time to look at the minutes?

[35:34] And do we have approval for the

[35:36] minutes for APRIL 28th?

[35:36] I

[35:37] ll vote approval. I

[35:38] ll

[35:39] second.

[35:42] Uh, is there anybody in

[35:44] accordance?

[35:48] I.

[35:49] Okay. So we

[35:50] re gonna have a

[35:53] public comment, period. Uh, the

[35:54] public comment period is a

[35:56] period reserved for comments by

[35:58] the public. Items that are

[35:59] subject of a public hearing

[36:01] this week shall not be

[36:03] discussed. A total of 30

[36:05] minutes is allocated for each

[36:07] individual being allowed no

[36:08] more than three minutes.

[36:10] Individuals who register to

[36:12] speak will speak in the order

[36:15] Register until the allotted 30

[36:17] minutes expires. If time

[36:19] remains after all, persons who

[36:20] registered have spoken,

[36:21] individuals who did not

[36:23] register will have an

[36:24] opportunity to speak into the

[36:30] allocated 30 minutes. Expires.

[36:33] We have.

[36:34] Rushing forward.

[36:45] So new business.

[36:48] Good afternoon. Commission. Um.

[36:51] Today I am going to talk to you

[36:53] about the rules of procedure.

[36:56] We, um. In APRIL, we had our

[36:57] first reading of the Rules of

[36:59] procedure. And, um, spoke about

[37:00] the revisions. I

[37:01] ll go over

[37:02] those again today. Um, but your

[37:04] rules of procedure for hpc set

[37:07] your agenda item order. They

[37:08] set how you conduct business

[37:10] and how you approve CEOs. Um,

[37:12] these were last revised in

[37:14] 2023. Um, so not too long ago,

[37:17] but we had a couple updates.

[37:18] Um, those updates, I know we

[37:19] went over them last time, but

[37:19] I

[37:21] ll just refresh your memory.

[37:24] Um, the Planning and

[37:25] Development Services department

[37:26] has now changed their name to

[37:28] the Community and Development

[37:29] Services Department. So that

[37:30] will be a change that will need

[37:33] to be made. Um, with the

[37:35] advancement of our public

[37:36] information office and the way

[37:37] that they are able to get

[37:39] information out to the public.

[37:42] Um, we are dissolving the

[37:44] public Publicity Committee due

[37:46] to the changes in the city

[37:46] s

[37:47] expectations for our board and

[37:50] commission members. Um, and

[37:53] lastly, we want to move the

[37:54] public comment period to the

[37:56] top so that if people want to

[37:57] come and speak, um, that they

[37:58] don

[37:59] t have to necessarily sit

[38:00] through COAs and other items of

[38:03] business. Um, and, and they can

[38:05] speak at the beginning of the

[38:06] meeting, just like we just did.

[38:08] Um, so if there are any

[38:10] questions, please. Now is the

[38:13] time to ask. Um, since is this

[38:14] since this is the second

[38:16] reading, there will need to be

[38:20] a vote for adoption of the edit

[38:21] of the or the revision of these

[38:24] rules of procedure. Okay.

[38:27] Um, do have that. All in favor?

[38:28] I.

[38:28] Um. I

[38:29] ll move approval.

[38:34] I move approval. Do we have a

[38:34] vote?

[38:37] No, we need a second. Okay,

[38:38] okay.

[38:40] Then. Everybody.

[38:42] Yes. Hi.

[38:43] All right.

[38:45] Okay. Fantastic. Thank you very

[38:50] much.

[38:52] Okay.

[38:54] Are there any more?

[38:56] Um, yes. Our next item is

[38:58] committee reports. So I

[38:58] ll go

[39:00] ahead and share that with you.

[39:03] Um, so our design review

[39:05] committee has not met. The

[39:06] selection committee also has

[39:09] not met. Um, but we previously

[39:12] or we I wanted to go over our

[39:13] membership for those two

[39:15] committees. Um, as we have a

[39:18] new member. Um, city council

[39:19] recently appointed two new

[39:22] members to hpc and, um, and

[39:23] right now we currently have

[39:25] Susan Daughtry, Rebecca Smith,

[39:27] Sidney McLeod, um, David

[39:28] Dennard and David Dennard on

[39:29] the Design Review Committee.

[39:32] There is one vacant position on

[39:34] that committee. Um, the

[39:35] selection committee members

[39:37] have three slots open. Please

[39:40] excuse that. Um, that Mistype,

[39:42] um, and Matthew Cox and Kamari

[39:45] Carter are currently on those

[39:46] committees. So if we have any

[39:49] volunteers for a committee, uh,

[39:53] that would be fantastic.

[39:54] Okay.

[39:56] Is there any, um, like,

[39:58] timeline or for those

[40:01] committees? Um.

[40:02] Timeline. How so? Like a

[40:04] monthly meeting?

[40:06] Like, should we have me? Should

[40:07] we meet before the next

[40:10] meeting? I mean, you know, or..

[40:11] Design review committee meets

[40:13] as needed. So. So when there

[40:13] s

[40:17] a Coa application, um, that for

[40:19] a major work, for example, um,

[40:21] that will need the approval of

[40:22] the design review committee

[40:24] before coming to hpc. That

[40:24] s

[40:24] when they

[40:25] ll meet. So that

[40:26] s a

[40:28] case by case basis. Okay. Um,

[40:29] the selection committee has not

[40:31] met. Um, they don

[40:32] t necessarily

[40:34] have a monthly meeting time.

[40:34] And that

[40:34] s something that the

[40:36] selection committee would, um,

[40:39] do themselves. Okay.

[40:40] I thought we were limited to

[40:41] four.

[40:43] So we were limited to four

[40:46] people on each. Um, committee.

[40:49] With the change of the rule

[40:51] procedure. Rule of procedure?

[40:52] Um, we now no longer have the

[40:54] publicity committee. So

[40:55] initially there were four to

[40:56] each committee. Now there are

[40:59] five to each committee. Um, as

[41:02] our, uh, hpc typically has ten

[41:04] members, the amount is ten

[41:08] members. Um, so those spots

[41:11] will be filled once we are a

[41:12] full commission. Again.

[41:15] And.

[41:16] Oh, and yes, the fifth. The

[41:19] fifth person on the, um, on

[41:20] each committee is the

[41:22] alternate. Right. Um, of that

[41:23] committee. So that person will

[41:25] not necessarily attend every

[41:26] committee meeting. They will

[41:28] attend ones where there might

[41:29] be somebody who MAY not be able

[41:31] to attend. Um, because there

[41:32] needs to be at least two people

[41:34] at each committee meeting in

[41:35] order for it to be a committee

[41:36] meeting. But we cannot have

[41:39] five, as that is quorum.

[41:41] That is a quorum of the.

[41:41] Historic.

[41:44] Hpc. Commission for our new

[41:45] member. So we can

[41:46] t if we do

[41:46] that, we

[41:47] d have to advertise

[41:48] and do those things.

[41:49] Thank you.

[41:51] And that makes sense. Sure.

[41:52] Yes.

[41:53] Okay.

[41:55] So.

[41:55] What

[41:57] s our working definition

[42:00] of a full committee?

[42:03] A full committee would be full.

[42:05] Four people. Yes. Okay. And

[42:06] then? And then there would be

[42:07] one alternate.

[42:07] That

[42:08] s our working definition.

[42:09] Yes. And then there would be

[42:11] one alternate who would fill

[42:13] that? That fifth position as as

[42:15] somebody who would, um, come to

[42:19] either committee meeting when

[42:22] as needed.

[42:23] Would you say either committee?

[42:24] Do you mean the design review

[42:26] committee or the selection

[42:29] committee? Yes. Thank you.

[42:30] No, they would pick a

[42:31] committee.

[42:35] Sure.

[42:37] All right. Great. Thank you

[42:40] very much. Um, if we have any,

[42:43] um, volunteers for committees,

[42:45] um, please let me know whether

[42:46] it be at this meeting or after.

[42:47] Thank you very much.

[42:51] Uh, the selection committee.

[42:51] Okay.

[42:53] Fantastic.

[42:54] I will talk to you down for

[43:04] that. All right. Fantastic. Um,

[43:06] so, on to minor works updates.

[43:09] We have had one minor work

[43:12] since our last meeting. Um, at

[43:15] the, I believe the Proctor

[43:18] Young house. Um, for routine

[43:19] maintenance, for restoring

[43:23] peeling paint. Um, and I have

[43:26] one announcement for you. Uh,

[43:27] the historic window

[43:28] preservation and restoration

[43:31] workshop that is happening on

[43:32] Saturday, JULY 11th. You should

[43:34] have received an email from me

[43:38] or several, um, and we are

[43:40] advertising on all platforms.

[43:44] Um, website. Um, social media

[43:47] and, um, we have shared this

[43:49] with adjoining, um, communities

[43:52] as well with their hpc and, and

[43:54] their staff. Um, to let them

[43:55] know that this is an

[43:56] opportunity, a learning

[43:58] opportunity for window

[44:02] preservation. Um, if you are

[44:03] interested, please join us.

[44:05] This does, um, count towards

[44:07] your training opportunities as

[44:09] as commission members? Um, I

[44:11] sent I sent an email with

[44:13] detailed information on that.

[44:15] Um, so please let me know if

[44:16] you have any questions on this

[44:17] workshop. And this qr code here

[44:18] on the screen is is for

[44:20] registration.

[44:21] Is this capped at a certain

[44:24] number? No. So it

[44:26] s just.

[44:27] Yep, yep. We just have

[44:29] registrations that we are aware

[44:30] of how many we might.

[44:30] Have.

[44:31] And where.

[44:32] The time.

[44:35] Yeah. It is at 9 A.M. On

[44:35] Saturday.

[44:36] Right in front of me. No

[44:37] worries.

[44:37] It helps to read.

[44:38] Yeah.

[44:38] No worries at all. I

[44:39] ll let you

[44:39] know. It

[44:39] s, um. It

[44:40] s Saturday,

[44:42] JULY 11th, from 9 A.M. To 12

[44:45] P.M.. Okay. Um, we have

[44:46] Colliers Engineering and Design

[44:47] has partnered with us, and

[44:47] they

[44:50] ve hired, um, uh, David,

[44:53] who does, um, who is an expert

[44:55] in his field for for window

[44:56] preservation. He

[44:57] s with double

[44:59] hung window preservation. Um,

[45:02] and and it will be at the Eppes

[45:03] Recreation Center in the

[45:06] multi-purpose room. And, uh,

[45:07] there will be some hands on

[45:09] learning opportunities as well

[45:13] as educational presentations.

[45:15] So, um, please join us if you

[45:17] can.

[45:18] For any member, you might

[45:19] explain why the training

[45:20] matters.

[45:23] Oh, absolutely. Ah, we had we

[45:24] had an orientation yesterday.

[45:26] Never mind. So so all good on

[45:28] that on that end. Um, but yes,

[45:30] the window workshop, I believe

[45:32] MR. Hitchcock is looking

[45:37] forward to it. Um, and I just I

[45:39] did want to I did want to also

[45:40] mention the Design Standards

[45:44] task force. Um, we have had

[45:46] four meetings up until this

[45:48] point, and we have two left.

[45:48] Um, it

[45:50] s been going great. Um,

[45:52] Andrew can speak on it if you

[45:52] d

[45:54] like to, but, um, but yeah, our

[45:56] next two meetings are AUGUST

[45:59] 19th and SEPTEMBER 9th. The

[46:01] next one will be on our last

[46:02] section of the design

[46:05] standards. And our last one on

[46:07] SEPTEMBER 9th will be the

[46:09] review of the finished draft.

[46:12] Um, and once that is complete,

[46:13] that final draft should come to

[46:17] hpc in the OCTOBER NOVEMBER

[46:18] timeline. That

[46:18] s what we are

[46:20] looking at right now.

[46:21] I want to confirm you said our

[46:22] next meeting was AUGUST 19th

[46:23] with us.

[46:26] No, not with us. Our meeting

[46:27] will still be our routine

[46:28] monthly. Gotcha. This is, um.

[46:29] This is for the Design

[46:30] Standards Task Force.

[46:31] Gotcha. Thank you.

[46:33] Yeah, absolutely.

[46:35] Then the consultants are, I

[46:37] think, doing a very good job of

[46:38] making it more readable,

[46:41] clarifying. Mhm. Moving.

[46:43] Clarifying what our standards

[46:45] and what our best practices.

[46:47] But I encourage the commission

[46:49] when that comes to them to read

[46:52] those carefully because there

[46:52] s

[46:54] some interesting questions

[46:57] there. Well I mean about what

[46:57] s

[46:58] the standard. What

[46:58] s the best

[47:00] practice. What what

[47:00] s a hill

[47:01] will die on. What

[47:02] s something

[47:02] we don

[47:03] t.

[47:05] Yes. And that will be sent out

[47:06] before the meeting. So there

[47:08] will be um, there will be due

[47:10] time for you to to review the

[47:12] standards and come back with

[47:13] any questions, comments or

[47:15] concerns. That

[47:16] s good.

[47:16] That

[47:18] s good. Also, the the

[47:19] email that you mentioned that

[47:22] we can be a part of the review

[47:23] or. No.

[47:25] If you would like to join the,

[47:28] the, um, the task force. Yes,

[47:31] absolutely. Um, so feel free

[47:32] to. I know we had spoken about

[47:33] that. Um, so if you

[47:33] re

[47:35] interested in, in coming to the

[47:37] next two task force meetings.

[47:38] Absolutely.

[47:38] Sure.

[47:41] Thank you. Um.

[47:42] Thank you. Great. That

[47:42] s all I

[47:45] have.

[47:52] Anything else? Uh, well, do I

[47:55] have a ready for adjournment?

[47:56] Motion?

[48:01] Uh. Yes. Sorry for adjournment.

[48:01] I

[48:03] ll move to adjourn.

[48:03] Second.

[48:03] I

[48:05] ll second.

[48:06] Anybody in approval?

[48:09] Aye. All right.

[48:10] All right. Thank you for your

[1:08:12] time.

[1:08:13] All right. Good evening. I

[1:08:13] d

[1:08:15] like to call the AUGUST 10th,

[1:08:17] 2026 meeting of Greenville City

[1:08:18] Council to order. I

[1:08:18] m Mayor pj

[1:08:19] Conley. I

[1:08:19] ll be presiding over

[1:08:19] tonight

[1:08:20] s meeting. First, I

[1:08:20] d

[1:08:22] like to call on Council Member

[1:08:24] Jones for the invocation,

[1:08:25] followed by the Pledge of

[1:08:25] Allegiance.

[1:08:28] If you join me in prayer, dear

[1:08:29] Lord, we come before you with

[1:08:31] gratitude for the opportunity

[1:08:33] to serve our community. We ask

[1:08:34] you for your wisdom, guidance,

[1:08:36] and discernment as we consider

[1:08:38] the matters before us today.

[1:08:39] Help us to listen with open

[1:08:41] minds. Speak with respect and

[1:08:44] take this this discussion with

[1:08:45] fairness, integrity and

[1:08:47] compassion. Remind us that our

[1:08:48] responsibility is to serve all

[1:08:50] members of our community, and

[1:08:51] to work together for the common

[1:08:53] good. Give us patience,

[1:08:54] humility, and courage to do

[1:08:56] what is right. MAY our

[1:08:57] decisions promote peace,

[1:08:59] safety, opportunity, and the

[1:09:00] well-being of every person and

[1:09:02] family we represent. Bless our

[1:09:04] city, its residents, its

[1:09:06] leaders, and all those who work

[1:09:08] to make our community a better

[1:09:09] place. MAY we leave this

[1:09:10] meeting committed to serving

[1:09:13] others with wisdom, honesty and

[1:09:15] grace. In your name we pray.

[1:09:15] Amen.

[1:09:17] Amen. Amen. Please stand for

[1:09:20] the Pledge of Allegiance.

[1:09:23] Pledge allegiance to the flag

[1:09:24] of the United States of

[1:09:26] America. And to the Republic

[1:09:29] for which it stands. One nation

[1:09:32] under GOD, indivisible, with

[1:09:38] liberty and justice for all.

[1:09:39] MADAM Clerk, will you please

[1:09:40] call the roll?

[1:09:42] Yes, sir. Mayor Conley here.

[1:09:43] Mayor Pro tem Forman. Council

[1:09:45] member. Jones here. Council

[1:09:46] member. Hardy. Here. Council

[1:09:48] member Scalise, let us know. He

[1:09:49] will not be attending this

[1:09:50] evening. Council member

[1:09:51] Robinson here. Council member

[1:09:52] Wallace here. All right. Mayor

[1:09:53] Connolly, have a quorum.

[1:09:54] Thank you very much. We

[1:09:54] ll now

[1:09:55] move on to approval of

[1:09:56] tonight

[1:09:57] s agenda. MISTER

[1:09:58] Manager, any recommend changes?

[1:09:59] No changes. Do I have a motion

[1:10:00] to approve the agenda?

[1:10:01] Motion to approve. Second.

[1:10:02] All right. Motion to be made by

[1:10:04] Council. Jones. Second by

[1:10:05] Councilmember Robinson. All

[1:10:06] those in favor say aye.

[1:10:06] Aye, aye.

[1:10:07] Those opposed say nay.

[1:10:09] Motion passes five zero.

[1:10:11] Thank you.

[1:10:15] Move on to special recognitions.

[1:10:37] Good evening. Um, tonight we

[1:10:39] would like to recognize our

[1:10:40] newest junior fire marshal

[1:10:42] Academy graduates. So if you

[1:10:43] guys would come on up and join

[1:10:53] us on the stage. So while

[1:10:53] they

[1:10:53] re while they

[1:10:54] re coming

[1:10:56] up, um, this is our 12th year

[1:10:57] of the junior fire marshal

[1:10:58] Academy. Uh, we

[1:10:58] re really

[1:10:59] excited. It

[1:10:59] s an exciting week

[1:11:00] for us. And it

[1:11:01] s an exciting

[1:11:02] week for our staff because we

[1:11:04] get to bring in these bright,

[1:11:06] beautiful faces in from the

[1:11:07] outside and teach them some

[1:11:09] very important topics, such as

[1:11:11] fire prevention, water safety.

[1:11:12] We teach them how to use fire

[1:11:13] extinguishers, different first

[1:11:15] aid topics, and how to do cpr

[1:11:16] and which, uh, you don

[1:11:17] t think

[1:11:18] that that really makes a

[1:11:19] difference to the kids this

[1:11:20] age, but it does, because what

[1:11:21] they do is they go home and

[1:11:22] they teach other people and

[1:11:23] other friends how to do it, and

[1:11:24] it prepares them in the event

[1:11:25] of an emergency. So we

[1:11:26] re super

[1:11:27] excited. We had a really great

[1:11:28] week this year. Again, this is

[1:11:29] our 12th year and it just gets

[1:11:31] better and better every year.

[1:11:32] But we just want to recognize

[1:11:34] these cadets. Um, Chief Bedford

[1:11:35] and Grace, they do a great job

[1:11:36] through our life Safety

[1:11:37] division of putting this on

[1:11:38] every year. And there

[1:11:38] s a lot

[1:11:39] of city staff. It

[1:11:39] s no one

[1:11:40] department that does this.

[1:11:40] It

[1:11:42] s, um, you know, all the

[1:11:42] departments come together to

[1:11:44] help us out with the different

[1:11:45] things we need during that

[1:11:45] week. So, chief, better than

[1:11:46] anything you

[1:11:47] d like to add or.

[1:11:47] No, I.

[1:11:48] Just want to thank all the

[1:11:49] parents that got them there.

[1:11:51] Uh, every day during the week.

[1:11:52] I know there was a week to get

[1:11:53] them there, but we really had a

[1:11:54] great time with all.

[1:11:55] Of you.

[1:11:55] So thank you.

[1:11:57] All.

[1:11:57] Okay. I

[1:11:58] m going to let them

[1:12:01] tell you their names.

[1:12:03] So.

[1:12:04] Levi.

[1:12:05] DeAndre.

[1:12:11] Hey then Josh, Charlie, Gabe.

[1:12:14] Collier, Carson. Wyatt,

[1:12:16] Matthew. Nolan.

[1:12:18] All right, one more big round.

[1:12:20] Of applause to our newest

[1:12:23] graduates. And hopefully

[1:12:23] they

[1:12:23] ll they

[1:12:24] ll.

[1:12:25] Be looking for a job here soon.

[1:12:25] And we

[1:12:28] ll get them ready to go.

[1:12:31] Oh, in the payroll.

[1:12:32] Volunteer.

[1:12:33] Fire station.

[1:12:34] Eight.

[1:12:35] Staffing for fire station

[1:12:35] eight.

[1:12:36] That

[1:13:09] s right.

[1:13:10] All the phones.

[1:13:24] About two stars.

[1:13:26] I heard one of them say I

[1:13:27] thought the city manager was a

[1:13:29] lot cooler.

[1:13:30] Did you see him.

[1:13:33] Leave me hanging my hands.

[1:13:36] Hi, stranger. Danger. Smart

[1:13:37] kids.

[1:13:38] Huh?

[1:13:40] All right, we

[1:13:41] ll move on now to

[1:13:42] the public comment period. The

[1:13:43] public period is a period

[1:13:44] reserve for comments by the

[1:13:45] public. Items that were or

[1:13:46] scheduled to be subject to a

[1:13:47] public hearing conducted this

[1:13:48] meeting or other meeting during

[1:13:48] the same week shall not be

[1:13:49] discussed. A total of 30

[1:13:50] minutes is allocated, with each

[1:13:51] individual being allowed no

[1:13:52] more than three minutes.

[1:13:53] Individuals who are registered

[1:13:54] with City Clerk will speak in

[1:13:56] the order Register until the

[1:13:58] allotted 30 minutes expires. If

[1:13:59] time remains. After all persons

[1:14:00] have registered have spoken,

[1:14:01] individuals who do not register

[1:14:02] will have an opportunity to

[1:14:03] speak until the allotted 30

[1:14:04] minutes expires. MADAM Clerk,

[1:14:05] our first Speaker..

[1:14:07] Yes, sir. MR. Don Cavallini,

[1:14:08] you have three minutes to

[1:14:17] address the mayor and council.

[1:14:18] Good evening.

[1:14:20] Good evening, good evening.

[1:14:22] You know, while I was walking

[1:14:27] from the G.K. Butterfield bus

[1:14:29] station through downtown to

[1:14:33] come here tonight, uh, I kind

[1:14:34] of marveled how beautiful the

[1:14:37] city is and how fortunate I am

[1:14:38] to live in this city for the

[1:14:43] last 41 years. Um, truly

[1:14:48] blessed. Uh. Tonight, I

[1:14:48] m not

[1:14:51] talking for anybody but myself.

[1:14:54] Even though I am a member of

[1:14:56] the Cambridge Neighborhood

[1:14:59] Association of the road. And in

[1:15:01] fact, a past PRESIDENT Of that

[1:15:02] association. And I

[1:15:03] m presently

[1:15:07] the co-chair of the Pike County

[1:15:10] Coalition Against Racism. I

[1:15:12] attended the workshop, the

[1:15:14] working session prior to this,

[1:15:16] uh, city council meeting, and

[1:15:19] they talked about a critical a

[1:15:21] criteria point system for

[1:15:24] placing of traffic calming

[1:15:27] devices. You know, uh, speed

[1:15:30] bumps, uh, speed mitigation of

[1:15:35] some kind. And I noticed I, um,

[1:15:37] I kind of wondered what it

[1:15:39] includes incidents when people

[1:15:42] have died by vehicle. I didn

[1:15:42] t

[1:15:43] hear that mention, but I might

[1:15:46] have missed something in my

[1:15:48] neighborhood, which is

[1:15:50] overwhelmingly

[1:15:51] African-American. We

[1:15:52] ve noticed

[1:15:56] when someone loses their life,

[1:15:58] uh, in the university

[1:15:59] neighborhood, for example, on

[1:16:04] 10th Street, traffic stops for

[1:16:08] pedestrian signs are placed.

[1:16:10] Whereas when two people were

[1:16:11] run over in my hookah road

[1:16:13] neighborhood in the last five

[1:16:16] years, all we got was rumble

[1:16:20] stick signs and rumble strips.

[1:16:22] I think they call them. So I

[1:16:23] m

[1:16:26] wondering about this disparity.

[1:16:30] Um, and I also wonder sometimes

[1:16:34] when things like curfews are

[1:16:37] recommended downtown for people

[1:16:39] who are less than 18 years old,

[1:16:42] what are we trying to do? I can

[1:16:44] understand the threat that a

[1:16:47] teen takeover might pose, but

[1:16:49] to have a curfew from Thursday

[1:16:52] to Saturday from 11 to 6 on all

[1:16:53] 18 year olds, I mean, all of

[1:16:57] those under 18, I wonder how

[1:16:59] that will be enforced and

[1:17:02] whether that too will be a

[1:17:04] disparity. Thank you.

[1:17:07] Thank you.

[1:17:08] Okay. Thank you, MADAM Clerk.

[1:17:10] Our next speaker.

[1:17:16] Yes, sir. Next speaker is MR.

[1:17:18] Matthew Greenview. I

[1:17:19] m very

[1:17:20] sorry if I got that wrong, but

[1:17:21] you have three minutes to

[1:17:31] address the mayor and council.

[1:17:34] I just wanted to express my

[1:17:38] concern about flock safety. Um,

[1:17:39] you know, when I first heard

[1:17:41] about flock, uh, they said they

[1:17:42] were said to have located

[1:17:44] 10,000 missing children. And

[1:17:45] then I looked into it a little

[1:17:47] further, and the numbers are

[1:17:48] provided from an internal

[1:17:50] database provided by Flock

[1:17:52] Safety, which is the company

[1:17:54] that runs flock cameras. Um,

[1:17:56] flock cameras have already been

[1:17:58] proven to be abused by police

[1:18:00] officers in 50 proven

[1:18:01] instances. Uh, we don

[1:18:02] t know

[1:18:03] how many more have not been

[1:18:04] documented. Uh, it

[1:18:06] s an $8.4

[1:18:09] billion industry. And my main

[1:18:12] concern is that flock cameras

[1:18:14] are going to be used to survey

[1:18:16] and track ordinary citizens.

[1:18:17] Thank you.

[1:18:19] Thank you very much, MADAM

[1:18:20] Clerk. Our next speaker.

[1:18:21] We do not have any additional

[1:18:22] registered speakers.

[1:18:23] Anyone else like to speak to

[1:18:23] the public? Comment here.

[1:18:24] Please come forward. State your

[1:18:25] name. For the record, the first

[1:18:43] person has three minutes. None.

[1:18:44] We

[1:18:44] ll close public comment

[1:18:45] period. We

[1:18:45] ll move on to the

[1:18:47] consent agenda, MR. Manager.

[1:18:48] Thank you. Mayor.

[1:18:49] Consent agenda, item number

[1:18:51] two. Approval of minutes. Item

[1:18:52] number three, approval of the

[1:18:54] amended general record schedule

[1:18:56] for local government agencies.

[1:18:57] Item number four conveyance of

[1:18:59] right of way in easements for

[1:19:00] the North Carolina Department

[1:19:02] of Transportation project. Us

[1:19:06] 5917. State road 1704 East 14th

[1:19:08] Street. Widening from Red Banks

[1:19:12] Road to State Road 1708. East

[1:19:13] Fire Tower Road. Item number

[1:19:15] five. Resolution authorizing

[1:19:17] the conveyance of city owned

[1:19:19] real property located at 710

[1:19:21] Fleming Street. Parcel number

[1:19:24] 06335 and 817 Fleming Street.

[1:19:27] Parcel number ten 824 to

[1:19:28] habitat for Humanity of Pitt

[1:19:29] County, I. Number six

[1:19:30] resolution approving lease

[1:19:32] agreements for Hazard

[1:19:33] Mitigation grant program

[1:19:34] properties. Item number seven

[1:19:36] renewal of municipal agreements

[1:19:37] with the North Carolina

[1:19:38] Department of Transportation

[1:19:40] for traffic Signal Maintenance,

[1:19:41] item number eight.

[1:19:42] Authorization to apply for

[1:19:44] assistance to Firefighters.

[1:19:46] Grant to fund ems equipment and

[1:19:47] training. Item number nine

[1:19:49] authorization to apply for

[1:19:50] assistance to firefighters.

[1:19:52] Grant to purchase a firefighter

[1:19:54] fighting vehicle. Item number

[1:19:56] ten contract award to Allied

[1:19:58] Universal Security Services for

[1:20:00] security and risk mitigation

[1:20:02] services at gk Butterfield

[1:20:03] Transportation Center. Item

[1:20:05] number 11 construction contract

[1:20:06] award for Woodland Park

[1:20:08] improvements. Item number 12

[1:20:09] purchase of water feature

[1:20:11] equipment for a town common

[1:20:13] bulkhead. Project I, number 13

[1:20:15] construction contract award for

[1:20:16] the Wildwood Park West Side

[1:20:18] Parking and Pier project. Item

[1:20:20] number 14. Requests by police

[1:20:21] department to utilize asset

[1:20:22] forfeiture funds to purchase

[1:20:25] equipment and item number 15.

[1:20:26] Various tax refunds greater

[1:20:28] than $100.

[1:20:30] All right.

[1:20:30] I

[1:20:32] d like to pull item number

[1:20:33] 11.

[1:20:34] Motion to. Approve items two.

[1:20:36] Through 15 minus item 11,

[1:20:39] pursuant. COUNCILMAN, of

[1:20:40] course.

[1:20:41] Right.

[1:20:41] That

[1:20:43] s a motion been made by

[1:20:44] Councilmember Robinson. Second

[1:20:45] by Councilmember Willis. All

[1:20:46] those in favor say aye. Aye,

[1:20:48] aye. Those opposed say nay.

[1:20:50] Motion passes five zero.

[1:20:51] Move on to item number 11.

[1:20:52] Thank you. Mayor. Item number

[1:20:54] 11. Construction contract award

[1:20:56] for Woodland Park improvements.

[1:20:57] I now call forward executive

[1:20:59] director Don Octagon to answer

[1:21:03] any questions.

[1:21:07] Mayor Marion Hardy. Good

[1:21:09] evening, good evening, good

[1:21:11] evening. Yes, sir.

[1:21:12] Glad to answer any question you

[1:21:13] MAY have.

[1:21:14] Uh, know that when we first

[1:21:15] talked about this project,

[1:21:17] there was some different

[1:21:18] features that were up for

[1:21:22] consideration due to their are

[1:21:25] with funding, uh, rollover from

[1:21:26] the Town Common project. And I

[1:21:28] was just wondering if there was

[1:21:30] an exact, you know, detailed

[1:21:31] scope of work that is going to

[1:21:33] be completed over there at, uh,

[1:21:33] Woodland Park.

[1:21:34] Sure. Yeah. So, uh, this

[1:21:36] project is, uh, we received a

[1:21:38] $500,000 Ada grant from the

[1:21:39] state. Uh, so it

[1:21:40] ll be

[1:21:42] enhancing the Ada access, uh,

[1:21:43] in the park. Uh, we

[1:21:43] ll have

[1:21:45] improvements to the shelter,

[1:21:47] have a multi-use, uh, sports

[1:21:49] court on site. We have two Ada

[1:21:50] parking spots, uh, new

[1:21:51] playground equipment. Uh,

[1:21:52] that

[1:21:53] s for ages. Um, for

[1:21:54] teenagers. So that it

[1:21:54] s it

[1:21:55] s

[1:21:56] for the ages that live in the

[1:21:58] in the area. Um, also, we have

[1:22:01] other, um, elements such as a

[1:22:03] foosball table and also

[1:22:04] cornhole, uh, which was

[1:22:06] requested in the, in the, uh,

[1:22:07] input meeting that we had on

[1:22:08] site. Uh, so nothing was cut

[1:22:11] from the, from the project. Um,

[1:22:12] the city itself performing some

[1:22:13] of the items which help lower

[1:22:15] the cost. Um, but we were able

[1:22:16] to move forward with the full

[1:22:17] project design.

[1:22:17] Perfect.

[1:22:19] Thank you.

[1:22:20] Cool.

[1:22:21] Motion to approve.

[1:22:22] Second.

[1:22:23] All right. Motion.

[1:22:24] Councilmember. Already signed

[1:22:25] by Councilmember Robinson. All

[1:22:26] those in favor say aye.

[1:22:27] Aye, aye.

[1:22:27] Opposed.

[1:22:29] Motion passes five zero.

[1:22:31] Hey, before we move into, uh,

[1:22:32] new business. Do you want to

[1:22:33] highlight some of the great

[1:22:34] things that we

[1:22:34] re in that, I

[1:22:35] mean, even though we didn

[1:22:35] t

[1:22:36] talk about it, we didn

[1:22:36] t pull.

[1:22:37] Those.

[1:22:37] Yeah. So I tell you, I

[1:22:38] ll tell

[1:22:41] you what. Yeah. You know, uh,

[1:22:42] thank you, mayor, for that,

[1:22:45] because normally many of these

[1:22:46] items would have actually been

[1:22:48] presented as presentations, but

[1:22:50] we just have so many great

[1:22:52] projects on this council agenda

[1:22:53] tonight that we had to

[1:22:56] abbreviate the agenda. But not

[1:22:57] only do we have the

[1:22:58] improvements to Woodlawn Park,

[1:23:00] which have been years in the

[1:23:02] making, we also have a water

[1:23:03] feature that

[1:23:04] s been installed

[1:23:05] down at the town common

[1:23:06] bulkhead. It

[1:23:07] s a water feature

[1:23:08] centered around stormwater

[1:23:11] retention and clean energy that

[1:23:13] will be available for kids to

[1:23:14] enjoy. There

[1:23:15] s a contract award

[1:23:18] for Wildwood Park to, uh, to

[1:23:20] build a fishing pier and a and

[1:23:23] a parking lot on the west side.

[1:23:25] That is a project that is, uh,

[1:23:27] been put into place through a

[1:23:30] collaboration with with, um,

[1:23:34] golly bridge, Baton Rouge

[1:23:36] ballot is, uh, he is funding

[1:23:38] that project for us. And so

[1:23:39] just some, some great projects

[1:23:41] that we have that are over

[1:23:43] there in the on the town common

[1:23:44] side.

[1:23:45] Excellent. Yes. All right.

[1:23:45] Let

[1:23:47] s move on to new business.

[1:23:48] All right. Under new business,

[1:23:50] item number 16, presentation by

[1:23:51] boards of commissions. The

[1:23:52] first presentation will have is

[1:23:54] the Multimodal Transportation

[1:23:55] Commission. I will now call

[1:23:56] forward on multimodal

[1:23:58] transportation chair James Byrd

[1:24:00] for the presentation.

[1:24:03] MISTER Manager, it looks like,

[1:24:04] um, Doctor Byrd has maybe

[1:24:06] walked out. Is he on the way?

[1:24:08] I think he assumed it was

[1:24:10] longer than that.

[1:24:10] That

[1:24:11] s all right. We can go

[1:24:12] back to him. You want to. Do

[1:24:13] you want to skip? We

[1:24:13] ll go.

[1:24:13] Next to the plan.

[1:24:14] That

[1:24:15] s fine.

[1:24:15] We

[1:24:16] ll move on to the second

[1:24:17] presentation. The planning and

[1:24:17] zoning Commission. I

[1:24:18] ll call

[1:24:20] for the pnc CHAIRMAN, John

[1:24:25] Collins, for the presentation.

[1:24:27] All right. Well, I have the

[1:24:30] text. All right. So, uh, good

[1:24:32] evening, council members.

[1:24:32] I

[1:24:34] m John Collins, I

[1:24:34] m the.

[1:24:34] I

[1:24:35] m sorry. You just got to

[1:24:36] scroll through the PRESIDENT.

[1:24:37] Sure.

[1:24:37] I don

[1:24:38] t really. Let

[1:24:39] s see. All

[1:24:40] right.

[1:24:46] You got this, John.

[1:24:46] Mine

[1:24:51] s a little shorter. We

[1:24:51] ll

[1:24:56] get there. All right.

[1:24:56] So I

[1:24:57] m John Collins. I

[1:24:58] m the

[1:24:59] chair of the city of Greenville

[1:25:01] Planning and Zoning Commission,

[1:25:03] planning and zoning Commission

[1:25:05] is composed of seven regular

[1:25:07] members and two alternate

[1:25:08] members that reside inside the

[1:25:10] corporate limits of the city

[1:25:11] and are appointed by the city

[1:25:13] council and two of the regular

[1:25:14] members and one alternate

[1:25:16] member reside in the limits of

[1:25:18] the extraterritorial

[1:25:20] jurisdiction of the city, and

[1:25:21] are appointed by the Pitt

[1:25:22] County Commissioners.

[1:25:24] The purpose.

[1:25:25] Of the Commission is to review

[1:25:28] and make recommendations to

[1:25:30] City Council for rezoning its

[1:25:32] extensions. Text amendments.

[1:25:35] Comprehensive plan adoption or

[1:25:37] amendments. Street closings,

[1:25:39] street name changes, and to

[1:25:40] review and make final decisions

[1:25:42] on preliminary subdivision

[1:25:44] plats. All meetings are open to

[1:25:47] the public. Our activity over

[1:25:50] the past year be considered 32

[1:25:52] applications. 14 of them were

[1:25:54] rezoning requests, five were

[1:25:56] text amendments, ten

[1:25:58] preliminary plats, one future

[1:26:00] land use and Character Map

[1:26:01] amendment, and two street

[1:26:04] closings. Now, there are

[1:26:06] significant item of activity

[1:26:08] was the consideration of the

[1:26:10] Unified Development Ordinance,

[1:26:13] or Udo, in preparation, a

[1:26:15] special public meeting was held

[1:26:16] to give the commissioners a

[1:26:17] preliminary view of the major

[1:26:19] changes for the proposed Udo

[1:26:21] and to provide an opportunity

[1:26:22] to ask questions and give

[1:26:24] comments. At the SEPTEMBER

[1:26:28] 16th, 2025 Planning and Zoning

[1:26:29] Commission meeting, the

[1:26:30] Commission unanimously

[1:26:32] recommended approval of the

[1:26:32] Udo. I

[1:26:33] d like to thank city

[1:26:35] staff for the preparation of

[1:26:37] the report. Are there any

[1:26:38] questions?

[1:26:40] Any questions?

[1:26:41] Great work.

[1:26:42] Yeah.

[1:26:43] Thank you, thank you, thank you

[1:26:46] for what you do. Thanks. Okay.

[1:26:47] Thank you, mayor. And we

[1:26:47] ll

[1:26:49] move back up to the Multimodal

[1:26:51] Transportation Commission. And

[1:26:53] now call for a multimodal

[1:26:54] transportation chairperson,

[1:26:55] James Burke, for the

[1:26:58] presentation.

[1:27:00] Thank you folks.

[1:27:01] Thank you. So have everybody.

[1:27:03] Doing here tonight. I

[1:27:03] ve had a

[1:27:04] bit of a health issue, so I had

[1:27:06] to step out. So, uh, so I

[1:27:07] m

[1:27:09] happy. Are these my slides?

[1:27:10] Looks like it.

[1:27:13] Yes, sir. Okay.

[1:27:17] My slides next.

[1:27:17] Let

[1:27:34] s see.

[1:27:36] Thank you. Any of you know

[1:27:37] Mona? She

[1:27:39] s the co-chair of my

[1:27:41] committee. And she attends a

[1:27:43] lot of meetings, so thankfully,

[1:27:45] she can help me here. Uh, so

[1:27:46] this is the Greenville

[1:27:48] Multimodal Transportation

[1:27:50] Commission, our 2025 annual

[1:27:55] report. And we want people to

[1:27:57] join us. Several people do join

[1:27:59] us regularly. We meet every

[1:28:01] third Wednesday of every of the

[1:28:02] month. And the months are

[1:28:04] listed here. Uh, we meet at 530

[1:28:06] in the conference room. A great

[1:28:07] conference room at the

[1:28:08] Butterfield Transportation

[1:28:10] Center. So our purpose is to

[1:28:12] advance and encourage

[1:28:13] multimodal options for

[1:28:15] community members and visitors

[1:28:17] for Greenville. I think in some

[1:28:17] ways, we

[1:28:18] re looking at what are

[1:28:20] the ways to get around town,

[1:28:22] enjoy getting around town

[1:28:24] safely, not in automobiles. So

[1:28:26] whether it be by walking,

[1:28:29] biking, riding, taking a bus.

[1:28:30] Uh, we think there need to be

[1:28:32] other options. And then

[1:28:34] driving. Uh, we hope to provide

[1:28:36] advice and recommendations to

[1:28:38] the city council and issues

[1:28:40] about public transportation,

[1:28:42] micromobility bikes and

[1:28:46] pedestrians. Uh, part of this

[1:28:46] you

[1:28:47] re going to see is very

[1:28:49] similar to last year. Uh, I am

[1:28:52] now the chair. Mona is the

[1:28:54] co-chair. Uh, and the following

[1:28:56] people, uh, three people are

[1:28:58] the new members. Uh, last year

[1:29:01] we came to you and, uh, we had

[1:29:01] five members. We

[1:29:02] re two short

[1:29:03] of what the full commission

[1:29:05] would be. The only two people

[1:29:07] remaining from last year are

[1:29:09] MISS Epps and myself. So we

[1:29:09] ve

[1:29:11] had fairly dramatic turnover.

[1:29:12] Uh, we

[1:29:13] ve had at least two of

[1:29:14] our meetings where we didn

[1:29:14] t

[1:29:16] have a quorum, so we got a lot

[1:29:20] more done through 2025. And we

[1:29:22] just introduced MISTER Nichols,

[1:29:24] MISTER Ramsey and MR. Ruffin at

[1:29:28] our last meeting. So in

[1:29:30] activities, uh, I think one of

[1:29:31] the big ones that we will be

[1:29:34] involved with is the nct dot

[1:29:35] Pedestrian Safety Grant. I

[1:29:37] think that was headed up by

[1:29:40] the, uh, by Kat Dale, who

[1:29:41] previously was the co-chair of

[1:29:43] our committee. Uh, there she

[1:29:49] is. Um, and we, I think are

[1:29:49] excited. And we

[1:29:50] ll see in just

[1:29:51] a minute that we have been

[1:29:53] quite excited about the micro

[1:29:56] transit. Uh, uh, launch. I

[1:29:57] presume you folks have heard

[1:29:59] about that and and given

[1:30:02] updates on the, uh, the, uh,

[1:30:04] the rideshare and the

[1:30:06] opportunities to call in for

[1:30:08] rides and the, uh, area one

[1:30:10] about north of the river has

[1:30:11] been pretty exciting with the

[1:30:13] growth from that. And while

[1:30:13] they

[1:30:14] ve continued to maintain

[1:30:16] ridership on the fixed routes

[1:30:21] in that area. So and these are

[1:30:22] the things that have been

[1:30:24] addressed and I think are being

[1:30:26] worked on on a regular basis.

[1:30:29] Uh, funding for sidewalk infill,

[1:30:31] uh, working on Ada

[1:30:34] noncompliance, uh, looking at

[1:30:35] we just talked about the Ido,

[1:30:37] uh, but street tree and

[1:30:40] sidewalk ordinances. Um, I am

[1:30:42] going to get a I thought I had

[1:30:44] five minutes, but somebody told

[1:30:45] me I have ten. Uh, at the end

[1:30:47] of my talk, I just have some

[1:30:49] slides of some streets in the

[1:30:50] city. I was going to focus a

[1:30:52] little bit on my street. Why is

[1:30:53] it my street? Because I

[1:30:54] ve

[1:30:56] driven it for at least twice a

[1:30:58] day for the past 25 years,

[1:30:59] coming down Arlington

[1:31:00] Boulevard. It

[1:31:00] s not really my

[1:31:03] street. Um, but it is a street

[1:31:06] this 5.3 miles long, and it has

[1:31:10] a continuous sidewalk for

[1:31:14] 99.8%. If anybody up here can

[1:31:18] tell me the 200ft that there

[1:31:18] s

[1:31:20] not a sidewalk, you win a bag

[1:31:21] of candy that I brought with

[1:31:22] me. So does anybody know where

[1:31:26] it is? Okay, well, think about

[1:31:29] it. Uh, historically, my

[1:31:30] teaching partner and I at the

[1:31:31] School of Medicine, we take

[1:31:33] either cookies or candy with

[1:31:35] our group, and sometimes we

[1:31:36] give it out freely, and

[1:31:37] sometimes they have to answer

[1:31:39] questions properly to win a

[1:31:42] prize. Uh, I think that we

[1:31:42] ve

[1:31:44] been interested in curb

[1:31:46] extensions issue of using

[1:31:48] billed funds. Uh, and we

[1:31:48] ve had

[1:31:50] great help from agencies in the

[1:31:52] city, individuals, the city.

[1:31:54] And we wanted to highlight Lisa

[1:31:56] Kirby, who I spoke with at

[1:31:58] length today. Uh, Sergeant Erin

[1:32:00] Lemon, Major Montane, Jeff

[1:32:03] Rasco, and again, I think the

[1:32:05] micro transit pilot of some of

[1:32:08] the bus stop upgrades. Um, I

[1:32:09] will point on my road now,

[1:32:11] Arlington Boulevard, between

[1:32:15] the fire tower and, uh, and

[1:32:18] there are now six new, uh,

[1:32:19] benches that were not there

[1:32:20] before, which is pretty

[1:32:22] exciting that people waiting

[1:32:22] for buses don

[1:32:24] t have to stand,

[1:32:31] but they can sit. Um, since we

[1:32:33] have three new members I left

[1:32:34] up and read here that we have

[1:32:36] not changed our priorities from

[1:32:38] last year and our first

[1:32:39] meeting. We did not have the

[1:32:41] opportunity to get the input

[1:32:42] from the three new members

[1:32:43] about what they would like to

[1:32:45] do with our group over the next

[1:32:47] year, so we stayed with these

[1:32:50] priorities. So, and I think

[1:32:50] that we

[1:32:52] re clearly interested

[1:32:54] in adding bike and pedestrian

[1:32:57] facilities. Um, and I will talk

[1:32:59] a little bit if we look like we

[1:33:00] will get to my slides about how

[1:33:02] we stripe roadways, how we

[1:33:04] stripe the crosswalks that we

[1:33:06] have in the city. And I think,

[1:33:09] uh, looking for uniformity. So

[1:33:12] pedestrians and people who are

[1:33:13] driving understand when they

[1:33:15] come to a corner, uh, what

[1:33:20] these crosswalks mean. Um,

[1:33:22] center lines, um, bike lanes

[1:33:25] are a real challenge. Uh, I was

[1:33:28] originally, uh, approached to

[1:33:29] join this, uh, committee

[1:33:31] because I lived for 20 years in

[1:33:33] Milwaukee, in Minneapolis,

[1:33:35] which are two of the most bike

[1:33:36] friendly, walking friendly

[1:33:38] cities in the United States.

[1:33:38] And there

[1:33:40] s a tremendous number

[1:33:41] of bike lanes, and I

[1:33:42] d love to

[1:33:45] see them here. Uh, again, I

[1:33:47] visited crosswalks and unmarked

[1:33:48] intersections and high

[1:33:50] pedestrian areas. Right now,

[1:33:52] most of our crosswalks will be

[1:33:53] where we have a traffic light

[1:33:55] rather than an unmarked

[1:33:59] intersection. Um, slower

[1:34:01] speeds, safer roads. Uh, this

[1:34:03] past year, you guys lowered the

[1:34:04] speed limit on 10th Street,

[1:34:07] which was a great idea by ecu.

[1:34:08] And I think there

[1:34:09] s other

[1:34:10] opportunities to lower our

[1:34:14] speeds. And then another one is

[1:34:14] we

[1:34:15] d love to get new people

[1:34:18] here. I think that was a pretty

[1:34:19] audacious goal when we said

[1:34:22] that. But I think people like

[1:34:23] to come where they can

[1:34:24] recreate, where they can move

[1:34:27] around the city safely. Uh,

[1:34:29] when I was in Minneapolis going

[1:34:30] to medical school, I could bike

[1:34:32] about seven miles across the

[1:34:34] city safely to and from school.

[1:34:34] I

[1:34:36] d love to be able to have our

[1:34:37] medical students be able to do

[1:34:42] that here in green. So, um, and

[1:34:46] you can read that. So I think

[1:34:46] there

[1:34:48] s a lot going on. There

[1:34:48] s

[1:34:52] a lot left to be done. And then

[1:34:56] we have other opportunities

[1:34:58] that MAY come our way. So I

[1:34:58] ll

[1:34:59] stop there. That

[1:34:59] s what we did.

[1:35:01] And this is sort of extra

[1:35:03] credit to show you guys a few

[1:35:04] things that have caught my

[1:35:06] attention. Yes, I go along

[1:35:08] Arlington Boulevard over the

[1:35:11] past few days, a few weeks, 25

[1:35:16] years. Okay, let me move on.

[1:35:18] This is, uh, if you take a look

[1:35:19] across the road just below the

[1:35:22] American flag, there is a new

[1:35:23] crossing signal there. And this

[1:35:26] is at Arlington and Red banks.

[1:35:26] And that

[1:35:28] s pretty exciting. We

[1:35:28] haven

[1:35:29] t had one of those in a

[1:35:31] long time. I will point out

[1:35:34] that between, uh, uh, Fire

[1:35:37] Tower Road and, uh, and Red

[1:35:40] banks, there is no way to cross

[1:35:41] Arlington. And this is the

[1:35:43] first place where we can cross

[1:35:45] the cross Street. And that

[1:35:45] s

[1:35:47] 1.3 miles. So please take a

[1:35:48] look at the crosswalk there.

[1:35:51] This is at Arlington and Red

[1:35:55] Bank. Um, this is at, uh, the

[1:35:57] next place you can cross a

[1:35:59] street on Arlington is at

[1:36:00] Greenville Boulevard. This is

[1:36:02] you can see at the Greenville

[1:36:03] Mall. You can see we have a

[1:36:04] different type of crosswalk

[1:36:06] here. We have one where we have

[1:36:08] the horizontal lines across.

[1:36:11] Uh, I did, and speaking to MISS

[1:36:12] Kirby, uh, apparently this is

[1:36:14] going to be the preferred way

[1:36:16] that we will mark our

[1:36:19] crosswalks in the future. And

[1:36:20] even though they have the brand

[1:36:25] new, uh, hand up to, uh, allow

[1:36:26] you to come across the street

[1:36:27] at Red banks, we don

[1:36:28] t have the

[1:36:29] crosshatch at. And hopefully

[1:36:31] that could be coordinated by

[1:36:34] the time that is going. Now, I

[1:36:35] mixed up on putting a slide in

[1:36:36] here. This was supposed to be

[1:36:38] the next place you can cross

[1:36:41] the street, which was at Evans.

[1:36:43] Uh, this happens to be a

[1:36:46] crossing at, uh, I think at,

[1:36:49] um, Memorial in Arlington. But

[1:36:51] the picture is the same. And

[1:36:52] what you have here, can you see

[1:36:54] the crosswalk on this side of

[1:36:58] the street? The crosswalk is a

[1:36:59] couple of white dots. There.

[1:36:59] It

[1:37:01] s missing. It

[1:37:01] s been gone.

[1:37:02] It

[1:37:03] s been gone for a long time.

[1:37:05] Uh, that same thing exists when

[1:37:08] you walk across, uh. Uh, Evans,

[1:37:09] when you

[1:37:11] re on Arlington. And

[1:37:13] so we have three consecutive

[1:37:15] crosswalks, ones the brand new

[1:37:16] crosswalks is plain. We

[1:37:17] ve got

[1:37:18] the one, the next one, which is

[1:37:20] a crosswalk, fairly well

[1:37:20] painted. It

[1:37:22] s got the the

[1:37:23] horizontal lines. And then we

[1:37:24] have another one that is

[1:37:26] horizontal lines but basically

[1:37:28] not painted. And there

[1:37:28] s a

[1:37:31] question as to how do we get

[1:37:33] around to fixing these things.

[1:37:36] And you know, in this case,

[1:37:37] when I talked to Lisa Kirby,

[1:37:38] she was appreciative. The fact

[1:37:40] that I brought it up and she

[1:37:42] said it could then be by my

[1:37:43] call, be put on the list to be

[1:37:46] put hopefully higher up in the

[1:37:51] queue to be taken care of. So.

[1:37:53] Uh, so this is one of these

[1:37:56] great new benches that we have,

[1:37:58] uh, in Arlington that go from

[1:38:01] fire tower to, to Red banks.

[1:38:01] There

[1:38:03] s six of them over that

[1:38:05] 1.3 mile stretch. This is at

[1:38:07] Turtle Creek, and I want to

[1:38:10] step back a little bit. We have,

[1:38:13] um, just before that, we have

[1:38:15] a, uh, a charter school, the

[1:38:17] Walden School, which is

[1:38:20] adjacent to this daycare on

[1:38:25] Arlington. Oh, now, this slide,

[1:38:27] this. Oh, well, and what we

[1:38:28] have there is so we have a

[1:38:31] school. We have we have six

[1:38:32] benches. And then that whole

[1:38:34] stretch on either side of the

[1:38:34] road, if you

[1:38:35] re down there, you

[1:38:36] know, there are businesses. I

[1:38:39] will say that on the sidewalk

[1:38:40] that goes from.

[1:38:41] Uh.

[1:38:43] From Fire Flower to fifth

[1:38:46] Street, every street, every

[1:38:48] business, there is an

[1:38:49] appropriate cut out for

[1:38:51] wheelchairs and other wheeled

[1:38:52] ability to get down. That

[1:38:52] s

[1:38:53] pretty awesome. It

[1:38:54] s absolutely

[1:38:57] uniform. Uh, but we now have

[1:39:00] buses and we have six benches,

[1:39:02] and we have many people who

[1:39:04] reside on either side of

[1:39:06] Arlington. But the people who

[1:39:08] are on the west side of

[1:39:09] Arlington, the question is, how

[1:39:11] do they get across the street

[1:39:12] to be able to access the bus to

[1:39:14] go where? If they would like to

[1:39:17] go? And I think to me, as you

[1:39:18] know, somebody who

[1:39:18] s lived here

[1:39:19] for a long time, who

[1:39:20] s an older

[1:39:22] guy, MR. Cavallini, who

[1:39:22] s been

[1:39:23] here 41 years, I

[1:39:24] ve only been

[1:39:27] here 31 years. Uh, I think part

[1:39:29] of being on a, citizen

[1:39:31] commission is to say we

[1:39:31] re just

[1:39:33] use common sense. If we want

[1:39:36] people to ride the buses and

[1:39:36] we

[1:39:38] ve got a busy road that is

[1:39:39] extremely hard to cross. You

[1:39:41] know, we have three delineated

[1:39:43] cars that are on the roads

[1:39:45] between fire Tower and Red

[1:39:47] banks because there are so many

[1:39:49] challenges with people turning

[1:39:52] left either off Arlington, onto

[1:39:53] Arlington, and we

[1:39:54] ve had many

[1:39:57] accidents. Um, so yes, we move

[1:39:58] ahead. Those are some of the

[1:39:59] things that we would like to

[1:40:01] discuss. We would like to bring

[1:40:03] back to your attention at at

[1:40:06] future dates. So that was my

[1:40:06] extra credit.

[1:40:07] To them.

[1:40:09] All right. So anybody would

[1:40:11] know where the 200ft that we

[1:40:12] don

[1:40:13] t have a sidewalk. And MISS

[1:40:14] Kirby said they

[1:40:14] ll look into

[1:40:17] it. So one of the delineations

[1:40:19] that comes off Wimbledon, if

[1:40:20] you turn right on Wimbledon and

[1:40:22] start heading south on on

[1:40:24] Arlington at the end of the

[1:40:26] delineated, they created a

[1:40:28] u-turn area and they created

[1:40:30] the u-turn area. They cut out

[1:40:32] and took away the, uh, the

[1:40:34] sidewalk there. So that

[1:40:34] s the

[1:40:35] only spot where we don

[1:40:35] t have

[1:40:36] it. And it

[1:40:38] s and I will say in

[1:40:40] my time, the number of people

[1:40:41] who walk on the sidewalk along

[1:40:43] Arlington has increased quite

[1:40:46] dramatically over time. Uh,

[1:40:47] both for the people who live in

[1:40:47] the area. There

[1:40:48] s a lot of

[1:40:49] people pushing their kids out

[1:40:50] there. So it

[1:40:51] s become popular.

[1:40:51] And that

[1:40:52] s that

[1:40:55] s very good. So.

[1:40:57] And Mona Epps is with me today.

[1:40:57] We

[1:40:59] re the people who will carry

[1:41:00] on for the next year with some

[1:41:02] of our new members. If few

[1:41:05] people have folks who you could

[1:41:07] send our way. Uh, with cattail

[1:41:08] leaving, we really need

[1:41:09] somebody from the biking

[1:41:11] community. And we

[1:41:11] d like to

[1:41:13] have somebody who walks or runs.

[1:41:14] And, uh, I have approached

[1:41:16] three people without success so

[1:41:18] far.

[1:41:19] If I MAY, mayor.

[1:41:21] Uh, I just wanted to make a

[1:41:23] comment and ask a question as

[1:41:25] well. Um, first, my comment is

[1:41:27] that it sounds like this

[1:41:29] commission is doing exactly

[1:41:31] what it was designed to do, and

[1:41:33] that you have found areas of

[1:41:34] improvement and been able to

[1:41:36] communicate with city staff.

[1:41:38] And as you said, she

[1:41:38] s MISS

[1:41:40] Kirby is taking it. And we can

[1:41:42] now respond to the request. So

[1:41:43] I think that

[1:41:44] s a great thing.

[1:41:46] Um, I appreciate your

[1:41:48] willingness to serve. Number

[1:41:50] two, the question is, um, have

[1:41:52] you had an opportunity to talk

[1:41:55] with MISS Kirby about calming

[1:41:57] mechanisms, mechanisms within

[1:41:59] neighborhoods? Because we just

[1:42:00] had a conversation about that.

[1:42:00] And I

[1:42:01] m just curious if you MAY

[1:42:02] be able to help.

[1:42:03] Yeah, that has not been

[1:42:06] anything that we have

[1:42:08] discussed. No.

[1:42:09] Okay. I think there

[1:42:09] s

[1:42:11] opportunity there for their

[1:42:13] input. Michael, um, we talked

[1:42:15] about calming mechanisms within

[1:42:17] neighborhoods and how there are

[1:42:18] disparities in different

[1:42:19] districts that we

[1:42:20] ve seen. We

[1:42:21] just received that information

[1:42:24] in our workshop. And so as

[1:42:24] we

[1:42:25] re looking forward to just

[1:42:28] kind of see how the it wasn

[1:42:29] t a

[1:42:31] formula, it was a rubric. What

[1:42:33] was the proper term point

[1:42:36] system? There we go. Um, as we

[1:42:39] look at a point system as to

[1:42:40] how different neighborhoods in

[1:42:43] the city get calming

[1:42:44] mechanisms, we need a little

[1:42:45] help on trying to figure out

[1:42:49] how we can more evenly disperse

[1:42:51] those mechanisms. Based on the

[1:42:53] requests that we get from

[1:42:53] neighborhoods. So I think

[1:42:54] that

[1:42:55] s an opportunity where you

[1:42:56] might be able to help us.

[1:42:57] i agree with you some of the

[1:42:59] calming things that we use

[1:42:59] aren

[1:43:00] t very expensive. And

[1:43:02] sometimes you want you want a

[1:43:04] fairly inexpensive fix to a

[1:43:05] simple problem. It

[1:43:06] s common

[1:43:06] sense.

[1:43:08] While keeping people safe.

[1:43:10] So keeping people safe for

[1:43:10] sure.

[1:43:12] Awesome. If we can make sure

[1:43:13] that we make that happen.

[1:43:14] Michael, I think that would be

[1:43:18] beneficial to us.

[1:43:21] We can take care of it. So

[1:43:21] we

[1:43:22] ll ask Donna to put it on

[1:43:24] the agenda. We will, for our

[1:43:27] second, not the next meeting.

[1:43:27] Right?

[1:43:28] Yes.

[1:43:28] Ma

[1:43:29] am.

[1:43:30] She

[1:43:30] s taking care of me

[1:43:32] tonight. Thanks.

[1:43:34] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you

[1:43:34] for coming out.

[1:43:35] All right. We

[1:43:36] ll move on to

[1:43:38] item number 17.

[1:43:39] Thank you. Mayor. Item number

[1:43:42] 17. Construction contract award

[1:43:44] for a boardwalk to connect

[1:43:45] Wildwood Park to River Park

[1:43:46] North. I

[1:43:47] ll call it our

[1:43:49] projects manager, Mark

[1:43:50] Nottingham, with the

[1:43:56] presentation.

[1:43:57] Council.

[1:43:57] It

[1:43:59] s a good timing. Uh, since

[1:43:59] we

[1:43:59] ve.

[1:44:00] Just fallen off the multimodal

[1:44:02] commission and talk about a

[1:44:05] multimodal project here at our

[1:44:08] park. Um, just to remind

[1:44:09] everybody where this project is

[1:44:10] located, showing the Wildwood

[1:44:11] Park map that shows the network

[1:44:14] of trails there. Um, on your

[1:44:15] consent agenda was also the

[1:44:16] fishing pier that Michael

[1:44:18] mentioned. Um, you can see

[1:44:19] that, uh, location on the

[1:44:20] northern part of the lake

[1:44:21] there. So I

[1:44:22] ll provide that

[1:44:23] first, you know, uh, improved

[1:44:25] access to that side of Wildwood

[1:44:27] Park, and then you can see the

[1:44:28] location of the boardwalk

[1:44:30] project here, connecting to the

[1:44:31] easternmost portion of the

[1:44:33] existing trail at River Park,

[1:44:35] North. Uh, this is just a

[1:44:38] zoomed out, uh, map of our park

[1:44:39] and River Park. North York

[1:44:40] City

[1:44:41] s two largest parks. River

[1:44:44] Park North is over 400 acres,

[1:44:44] while it

[1:44:47] s about 365. Um, and

[1:44:49] they they touch each other. So

[1:44:50] this boardwalk will really

[1:44:51] connect those those two parks,

[1:44:53] uh, and their trail networks.

[1:44:54] River Park North has like five

[1:44:56] miles of existing trails.

[1:44:57] Wildwood has five miles of

[1:44:59] trails, in addition to six

[1:45:01] miles of mountain bike trails.

[1:45:03] Um, so this really connects,

[1:45:05] uh, quite a network of existing

[1:45:07] trails. And then, uh, you can

[1:45:09] see the proposed north south

[1:45:10] connector that, um, our

[1:45:11] engineering department

[1:45:11] s

[1:45:13] working on with ncdot that will

[1:45:14] connect Town Common in the

[1:45:16] South Tar River Greenway. Uh,

[1:45:17] two Rear Park North, which

[1:45:18] will, you know, with this

[1:45:19] project being completed,

[1:45:20] connect to Wildwood.

[1:45:23] Park.

[1:45:25] Um, so, just as a reminder, the

[1:45:28] city, uh, in FEBRUARY, uh, got

[1:45:29] notified that we did receive a

[1:45:31] great, great, great trail state

[1:45:34] grant. Um, or $500,000 to go

[1:45:36] towards this project. Uh, this

[1:45:37] project has been designed

[1:45:40] since, um, like 2022. I mean,

[1:45:40] it

[1:45:41] s been in the works for a

[1:45:42] while. We completed some of the

[1:45:44] other elements of the project,

[1:45:45] like the boardwalk on the east

[1:45:47] side of Wildwood Park. Uh, so

[1:45:51] this is, uh, 685ft, uh, to

[1:45:52] connect Wildwood to River Park,

[1:45:54] North. Um, this was, you know,

[1:45:55] recommended in the Walmart.

[1:45:57] Wildwood Park master plan. And

[1:45:57] the city

[1:45:59] s, uh, recreation park

[1:46:01] master plan as well. So, uh, we

[1:46:04] received three bids, um, for

[1:46:05] construction and td, your

[1:46:06] marine construction, uh, came

[1:46:08] in with the lowest bid. We did

[1:46:10] have to remove an overlooked

[1:46:11] portion of the project to get

[1:46:14] it closer to budget. Um, so our

[1:46:16] recommendation is to award the

[1:46:18] construction contract to tdo or

[1:46:19] marine construction in the

[1:46:24] amount of $1,505,000. We

[1:46:24] re

[1:46:25] glad to answer any questions

[1:46:25] you might have.

[1:46:29] Any questions? Anybody want to

[1:46:30] make a motion.

[1:46:32] To approve? Second.

[1:46:33] All right. Motion made by

[1:46:34] Councilmember Hardy. Second.

[1:46:35] Councilmember Robinson. Any

[1:46:37] other discussion? All those in

[1:46:39] favor say aye. Aye, aye. Those

[1:46:39] opposed say nay.

[1:46:42] Motion passes five zero.

[1:46:43] Thank you very much. Move on.

[1:46:44] Item 18.

[1:46:45] Thank you. Mayor. Item number

[1:46:47] 18. Construction contract award

[1:46:49] for the site work at the North

[1:46:51] Recreational Complex. You can

[1:46:52] call forward our executive

[1:46:55] director, Don Octagon, for the

[1:46:56] presentation.

[1:46:56] Hi.

[1:46:57] Good evening again.

[1:46:58] Good evening.

[1:47:00] All right, so, um, this, uh,

[1:47:01] this is actually a two, two

[1:47:03] part item. Item 18 is for the

[1:47:04] site work for this, uh,

[1:47:05] construction project. And item

[1:47:07] 19 is the synthetic turf

[1:47:08] purchase. Uh, but first we

[1:47:08] ll

[1:47:09] talk about the, uh,

[1:47:11] construction contract, which

[1:47:12] includes all site work. This is

[1:47:15] a quick reminder of the review

[1:47:16] of ecu and city lease. Uh,

[1:47:18] timeline. Uh, so back in

[1:47:20] SEPTEMBER, uh, City council

[1:47:21] approved the proposed lease

[1:47:24] terms. SEPTEMBER 2025, uh, City

[1:47:25] Council approved the proposed

[1:47:27] lease terms with ecu to operate

[1:47:29] on the Rec. Um, city staff will

[1:47:31] be, uh, operating that complex

[1:47:33] fully in JANUARY. Uh, the

[1:47:34] transition is still going

[1:47:35] smooth with ecu, so we

[1:47:35] re

[1:47:36] looking forward to that. Uh,

[1:47:38] back in NOVEMBER, um, City

[1:47:40] Council approved the design

[1:47:41] service agreement for nrc

[1:47:42] improvements, which got us here

[1:47:44] tonight for the, uh, consider

[1:47:44] approval of the construction

[1:47:45] contract.

[1:47:45] For site.

[1:47:46] Work.

[1:47:48] Uh, this is also a reminder

[1:47:50] that the sports complex task

[1:47:52] force recommendation, uh, in

[1:47:54] JANUARY 2025, included, uh, the

[1:47:55] successful, if successful

[1:47:57] negotiation with ecu, uh, that

[1:47:58] we move forward with the

[1:48:00] design. Uh, that design, of

[1:48:01] course, is complete. So tonight

[1:48:01] we

[1:48:02] re reviewing the

[1:48:04] construction contract. So the

[1:48:05] focus area work is seen here.

[1:48:08] So this is east, uh, east north

[1:48:09] recreational complex. Uh, it

[1:48:10] s

[1:48:12] 128 acre complex located on

[1:48:14] highway 264. Has currently has

[1:48:15] eight rectangle natural grass

[1:48:17] fields with lights. Uh, to host

[1:48:19] soccer, lacrosse, tackle, flag

[1:48:20] football and other rectangle

[1:48:23] sports. Uh, the scope of work

[1:48:24] for this contract will include

[1:48:26] grading and subgrade

[1:48:28] preparation, installation of

[1:48:30] new stormwater infrastructure,

[1:48:31] uh, and drainage improvements

[1:48:32] necessary to support the

[1:48:33] reconstructed athletic fields

[1:48:36] and improve on site stormwater.

[1:48:38] Again, the focus area here is

[1:48:40] in that red is outlined there.

[1:48:41] The four fields outlined will

[1:48:42] be the ones that will be part

[1:48:46] of the construction. Uh JULY

[1:48:49] 2028 JULY 28th, 2026. The city

[1:48:50] received four bids for the

[1:48:51] construction of the site

[1:48:53] working nrc, uh, Fred Smith

[1:48:54] Company has the lowest

[1:48:55] responsive and responsible bid.

[1:48:57] Uh, one site work is complete

[1:48:58] in 2027. Charlotte Sports Turf

[1:48:59] will install the synthetic

[1:49:01] turf, which is the next item.

[1:49:02] Uh, shown here is the

[1:49:04] construction site plan, uh,

[1:49:05] shows the four fields, uh, two

[1:49:07] of the fields. We focus on

[1:49:08] soccer. Uh, and then the two

[1:49:10] other fields will be focused on

[1:49:12] lacrosse. Um, grass fields. And

[1:49:14] these fields can usually be can

[1:49:15] be used for other sports. But

[1:49:16] the main sports that the lines

[1:49:18] will hold. Uh, the permanent

[1:49:20] lines will be soccer and

[1:49:22] lacrosse. Uh, so our

[1:49:23] recommendation is to award the

[1:49:25] construction contract to Fred

[1:49:27] Smith Company in the amount of

[1:49:30] $4,032,876 and authorize the

[1:49:32] city manager and mayor to

[1:49:33] execute the acquired contract

[1:49:34] documents. I

[1:49:34] ll be glad to

[1:49:35] answer any questions.

[1:49:37] Any questions?

[1:49:38] I have a question, mayor. Um,

[1:49:40] what other sports can be can be

[1:49:41] played on those fields. You

[1:49:43] mentioned about that primarily

[1:49:44] would be soccer and lacrosse,

[1:49:45] but what other sports?

[1:49:47] Uh, flag football. Uh, ultimate

[1:49:48] frisbee. Um, there

[1:49:49] s some other

[1:49:51] sports, uh, and events that are

[1:49:53] our cvb and, uh, uh, sports

[1:49:54] commissioner trying to recruit

[1:49:55] to Greenville. Uh, so really,

[1:49:56] the if he can fit on the

[1:49:58] rectangle field, we can make it

[1:49:58] happen.

[1:49:58] We can do it.

[1:50:00] I remember, uh, Andrew Schmitt

[1:50:01] at one time saying something

[1:50:03] about the Harry Potter.

[1:50:04] Yeah, exactly.

[1:50:05] Guess that

[1:50:05] s real.

[1:50:06] Big, too.

[1:50:07] Out there, he said, that

[1:50:07] s like

[1:50:09] a big traveling thing now, too.

[1:50:10] I had no idea.

[1:50:11] Quit it. Quidditch is what it

[1:50:11] s

[1:50:13] called. Twister on.

[1:50:13] What

[1:50:15] s it called?

[1:50:18] Quidditch. Ball. Quad ball. Oh,

[1:50:19] there you go. It

[1:50:22] s like.

[1:50:24] So the size of the fields.

[1:50:24] Will be.

[1:50:26] Conducive to football games.

[1:50:27] Yes, ma

[1:50:28] am.

[1:50:28] Yeah.

[1:50:31] And rugby and rugby. Also

[1:50:32] another sport. Pretty much any

[1:50:33] man.

[1:50:33] I

[1:50:33] m sorry.

[1:50:35] And the proximity of those

[1:50:41] fields. Are there. So where

[1:50:43] would spectators be?

[1:50:45] So spectators would be, uh, see

[1:50:46] if field one. There

[1:50:46] ll be

[1:50:47] bleachers in between field one,

[1:50:49] field two, and then field two

[1:50:51] and three. Uh, most of these

[1:50:52] tournaments, they will bring,

[1:50:54] uh, spectators will bring their

[1:50:54] chairs, but we will have some

[1:50:56] bleachers out there. Uh, the

[1:50:58] same thing between 3 and 4. And

[1:51:00] then the grass fields will also

[1:51:01] have bleachers.

[1:51:01] If you

[1:51:02] re on field 2 or 3 as a

[1:51:03] spectator, you better bring a

[1:51:06] helmet.

[1:51:08] And as we bring in tournaments,

[1:51:08] we

[1:51:09] ll be able to explain and

[1:51:14] add bleachers as as needed.

[1:51:16] Good question.

[1:51:18] Any other questions? I want to

[1:51:19] make a motion.

[1:51:21] Motion to approve.

[1:51:21] Second.

[1:51:22] All right. Motion made by

[1:51:23] COUNCILMAN Robinson. Second by

[1:51:24] Council member. Hardy. Any

[1:51:26] other discussion? All those in

[1:51:28] favor say aye. Aye. Opposed?

[1:51:28] Say nay.

[1:51:31] Motion passes five zero.

[1:51:33] Then. Item number 19. Purchase

[1:51:35] of Shore Sports Turf for the

[1:51:36] North Recreational Complex was

[1:51:38] the second part of this agenda.

[1:51:39] Again, I

[1:51:39] ll turn it over to Don

[1:51:40] Ogden.

[1:51:41] All right. So scene here is

[1:51:44] the, uh. Again, same outline,

[1:51:45] that we, uh, same layout we

[1:51:46] showed before. Uh, the city has

[1:51:48] selected Shaw Sports Turf to

[1:51:49] supply the synthetic turf, uh,

[1:51:51] and infield material. Uh, due

[1:51:52] to their product and

[1:51:53] performance achieved with their

[1:51:54] game on technology. And I

[1:51:54] ll

[1:51:56] talk a little bit about the the

[1:51:58] benefits, um, in this lap, but

[1:51:59] also other slides coming up.

[1:52:01] Uh, a couple of the benefits

[1:52:01] include warranty and

[1:52:02] maintenance. The fields we have

[1:52:03] will have an eight year

[1:52:05] warranty and maintenance, uh,

[1:52:07] reduces seam tape. So the the

[1:52:09] turf that we have, we have seen

[1:52:10] tape, um, installed at the

[1:52:12] factory. So they went out with

[1:52:13] a saw that when it comes in,

[1:52:14] that means the the seam table

[1:52:16] last longer, uh, which will

[1:52:17] help with long term maintenance

[1:52:18] and requirements. Uh, which

[1:52:19] reduces cost. Uh, game on

[1:52:20] minimum turf is cradle to

[1:52:22] cradle certified, which, uh,

[1:52:22] we

[1:52:23] ll talk about in the next

[1:52:24] slide. And then another

[1:52:25] important component is the turf

[1:52:27] includes Geo field topper

[1:52:28] infield product, uh, which will

[1:52:29] significantly reduce the

[1:52:30] temperature of plant service.

[1:52:32] So a lot of synthetic fields,

[1:52:32] uh, that don

[1:52:33] t include this,

[1:52:35] uh, could be hotter because of

[1:52:37] the sun. Uh, this infield that

[1:52:38] is included in this purchase,

[1:52:40] uh, will help reduce the

[1:52:40] temperature. And that way, it

[1:52:41] will be the same as a normal

[1:52:43] grass field. Uh, so no change

[1:52:45] there, which ensures we have a

[1:52:46] safe playing surface. Uh, so,

[1:52:49] overview of synthetic turf

[1:52:51] benefits. Um, several items are

[1:52:51] here. Uh, it

[1:52:52] s cheaper to

[1:52:53] maintain annually compared to

[1:52:55] grass fields. Uh, stable

[1:52:57] playing surface for athletes.

[1:52:59] Uh, play can resume quicker in

[1:53:00] the event of inclement weather.

[1:53:02] So in a downpour, uh, it takes

[1:53:04] less time for these, uh, for a

[1:53:05] turf synthetic turf field to

[1:53:07] drain, uh, which means we have

[1:53:08] unlimited playing hours, which

[1:53:09] is very important. We

[1:53:09] re trying

[1:53:10] to recruit the type of

[1:53:11] tournaments that we offer North

[1:53:13] Rec, but also the minimal

[1:53:14] preparation, uh, which helps

[1:53:15] tournament play and also

[1:53:17] decreases staffing needs. So

[1:53:18] play can continue quicker. But

[1:53:18] also, we don

[1:53:19] t have to have

[1:53:20] staff out there to prepare the

[1:53:22] field. The games can keep going

[1:53:25] on. Also want to talk about the

[1:53:28] Cradle cradle certified? Uh, so

[1:53:29] trusted third party

[1:53:30] verification that ensures

[1:53:31] products are safe for both

[1:53:33] people and the planet. Uh, a

[1:53:34] couple of those areas. Uh, the

[1:53:36] certification covers, uh,

[1:53:37] including material health,

[1:53:38] ensuring the materials are safe

[1:53:40] for humans and the environment,

[1:53:42] and also clean air and climate

[1:53:43] protection, generating clean

[1:53:45] energy and protecting the

[1:53:46] environment. Um, not every

[1:53:48] company offers this type of

[1:53:49] certification, and we feel it

[1:53:49] s

[1:53:51] very important, uh, for this

[1:53:52] project. And so our

[1:53:54] recommendation is to approve

[1:53:55] the purchase of gaming minimum

[1:53:56] 2.25 synthetic turf and geo

[1:53:58] fuel infield from Shell Sports

[1:53:59] Turf and authorize the city

[1:54:01] manager and or mayor to execute

[1:54:03] any required documents. And

[1:54:03] I

[1:54:04] ll be glad to answer any.

[1:54:05] Questions.

[1:54:07] Any questions?

[1:54:08] My question goes back to the

[1:54:09] previous vote.

[1:54:10] Yes, ma

[1:54:10] am.

[1:54:11] So we

[1:54:12] ve talked about the

[1:54:14] possibility of putting tracks

[1:54:16] around the rectangular fields,

[1:54:16] but they

[1:54:17] re in such close

[1:54:18] proximity, I don

[1:54:18] t see where

[1:54:20] that would ever be an option.

[1:54:24] So for nrc, um, they felt agree

[1:54:24] with me. I

[1:54:25] ll go back to one of

[1:54:26] the other maps. That

[1:54:27] s okay.

[1:54:28] Um, for nrc, we would have to

[1:54:31] look at the entire complex to,

[1:54:31] to, to kind of take us. If you

[1:54:33] look at the north west portion

[1:54:35] of that complex, there is

[1:54:36] opportunity for other

[1:54:37] development there. Uh, for

[1:54:39] either more rectangle fields.

[1:54:40] Uh, but also it could be a

[1:54:41] potential to have a track right

[1:54:43] there potentially, or some type

[1:54:45] of, of, uh, running amenity.

[1:54:46] Um, so we have to look at the

[1:54:47] whole entire complex. Not not

[1:54:49] really the, the certain, but

[1:54:49] that

[1:54:50] s we can certainly, uh,

[1:54:52] take a look at that. Yes, ma

[1:54:54] am.

[1:54:54] Let

[1:54:54] s do a.

[1:54:57] Question.

[1:55:00] Of course. My questions are

[1:55:02] related to diversifying the.

[1:55:03] Possibilities. Yes, ma

[1:55:03] am. Yes,

[1:55:04] ma

[1:55:04] am.

[1:55:09] All right. Any other questions?

[1:55:10] Anybody to entertain a motion.

[1:55:12] Motion to approve.

[1:55:13] Second.

[1:55:14] All right. All right. We

[1:55:14] re

[1:55:16] mixing it up. I like that. Must

[1:55:17] have been made by Councilor

[1:55:17] Robinson, second by

[1:55:19] Councilmember Willis. All those

[1:55:19] in favor say aye.

[1:55:20] Aye.

[1:55:20] Opposed?

[1:55:23] Say nay. Motion passes five

[1:55:23] zero.

[1:55:25] All right. Number 20.

[1:55:26] Thank you. Mayor. Item number

[1:55:28] 20, first amendment to enter

[1:55:29] local agreement with Pitt

[1:55:31] County for sale of property

[1:55:33] located at 2815 East 10th

[1:55:37] Street. Parcel number 29072.

[1:55:39] And zero East fifth Street.

[1:55:41] Parcel number 283 ten. I

[1:55:42] ll now

[1:55:43] call for the Assistant City

[1:55:45] attorney, Scott Dixon, for the

[1:55:46] presentation.

[1:55:47] MR. Mayor, members of the

[1:55:49] council. Um, this should be

[1:55:50] about your shortest item

[1:55:50] tonight, but it

[1:55:51] s important and

[1:55:52] related to the item that comes

[1:55:53] right after this. The Don will

[1:55:54] be presenting about the

[1:55:56] proposed exchange. So tonight

[1:55:57] before you, you guys previously

[1:55:58] entered into an intellectual

[1:55:59] agreement with Pitt County in

[1:56:02] SEPTEMBER 20th, 2024, for the

[1:56:03] sale of property located at

[1:56:05] 2815 East 10th Street and zero

[1:56:06] East fifth Street. The

[1:56:07] substantive components of the

[1:56:08] previous agreement, provided

[1:56:10] the city would facilitate the

[1:56:11] sale of the property,

[1:56:12] administer administration

[1:56:13] services, and, upon

[1:56:14] finalization of the sale of

[1:56:15] property, provide accounting

[1:56:16] and disburse the proceeds as

[1:56:17] determined by the ownership

[1:56:20] interest. Parties now desire to

[1:56:21] amend that previously under

[1:56:22] interlocal agreement, so that

[1:56:23] in lieu of a sale to a third

[1:56:25] party only, the city MAY also

[1:56:26] exchange the property together

[1:56:28] with monetary compensation.

[1:56:29] Upon completion of any

[1:56:30] exchange, the county shall be

[1:56:31] either reimbursed in an amount

[1:56:32] proportional to its percentage

[1:56:34] interest in the property or the

[1:56:35] county. Interest shall be

[1:56:36] treated as a contribution

[1:56:37] towards the development of a

[1:56:38] planned sports complex. City

[1:56:39] will continue to provide

[1:56:41] administration and oversight.

[1:56:43] Um. It should appear a mere

[1:56:44] agreement should appear on the

[1:56:46] commissioners meeting. And from

[1:56:47] conversations with Matt and

[1:56:48] Janice, all of them seem to

[1:56:48] think it

[1:56:48] s going to be a

[1:56:50] donation. So we should get that

[1:56:51] answer later. We can update you

[1:56:53] guys, but all indications have

[1:56:53] been they

[1:56:54] re going to donate it

[1:56:55] for the possibility of a sports

[1:56:56] complex. They

[1:56:57] ve both been

[1:56:57] great. Don

[1:56:58] s been working a lot

[1:57:00] on this. So basically in order

[1:57:01] for you guys to enter into the

[1:57:03] proposed exchange or provide

[1:57:05] authorization, we gotta amend

[1:57:06] this to just allow that

[1:57:08] opportunity. So in 2024, you

[1:57:10] guys, when you, um, entered

[1:57:11] into the initial agreement, it

[1:57:12] was going to be sale to a

[1:57:13] private party through an upset

[1:57:15] bid process. That deal didn

[1:57:15] t

[1:57:15] really work out. I don

[1:57:16] t think

[1:57:17] the parties found interest in

[1:57:18] how that was going to be worked

[1:57:20] out. So this just changes one

[1:57:22] thing, essentially allowing us

[1:57:24] to do an exchange. And it also

[1:57:25] allows us for the county to

[1:57:26] treat their interest as a

[1:57:27] contribution. So I

[1:57:27] m happy to

[1:57:28] answer any questions.

[1:57:30] All right. Any questions for

[1:57:34] MISTER Dixon? You weren

[1:57:34] t

[1:57:35] lying. This could be the

[1:57:36] shortest one.

[1:57:37] I tried my best. I know you all

[1:57:39] had a long one.

[1:57:40] All right. Anybody want to

[1:57:41] entertain a.

[1:57:44] Motion? Motion? Second.

[1:57:45] All right. Motion made by

[1:57:46] Councilmember Robinson. Second

[1:57:47] by Councilmember Willis. All

[1:57:48] those in favor say aye.

[1:57:49] Aye.

[1:57:49] Opposed?

[1:57:52] Any motion passes five zero.

[1:57:52] Let

[1:57:55] s move on to item number

[1:57:55] 21.

[1:57:57] So item number 21, resolution

[1:57:59] approving the exchange of

[1:58:01] property with j. B holding,

[1:58:02] llc. Call for Executive

[1:58:04] Director Don Octagon for the

[1:58:05] presentation.

[1:58:06] All right. Good evening again.

[1:58:07] Good evening.

[1:58:10] All right. So, um, to Scott

[1:58:10] s

[1:58:11] point, uh, this is part of his

[1:58:12] item two. As far.

[1:58:13] As the there

[1:58:13] s going to be. Are

[1:58:14] you gonna try to beat him.

[1:58:16] For sure. He wins here. Come

[1:58:18] on, try do it.

[1:58:21] Um, however, I

[1:58:21] ll try to get

[1:58:23] this as efficiently as I can.

[1:58:24] Um, so this is over. Overview

[1:58:25] of the proposed property

[1:58:29] exchange. Uh, property to be is

[1:58:31] 4055 us 64 Highway East, which

[1:58:33] is adjacent to ecu North

[1:58:36] complex. Uh, in exchange for

[1:58:37] two a one five 10th Street, the

[1:58:39] old highway patrol building and

[1:58:41] cash. So over the next couple

[1:58:42] slides, I

[1:58:42] ll go in detail about

[1:58:44] the properties, um, and the and

[1:58:46] the exchange. Uh, first of all,

[1:58:46] we

[1:58:47] ll cover the old State

[1:58:48] Highway Patrol building, which

[1:58:49] again is located on 10th Street

[1:58:50] there at the corner of fifth

[1:58:51] Street and 10th Street. It

[1:58:51] s

[1:58:56] approximately two acres. Uh, in

[1:58:58] SEPTEMBER of 2025, the city

[1:59:01] received a, uh, appraisal, uh,

[1:59:02] stating the market value,

[1:59:03] current market value for this

[1:59:05] property was 909,000, which is

[1:59:07] the value that we used as part

[1:59:08] of this presentation. In

[1:59:11] exchange, other property, uh,

[1:59:13] as the adjacent to is is

[1:59:14] adjacent to Rec North

[1:59:17] Recreational Complex. So parcel

[1:59:20] 23342, uh, approximately 160

[1:59:22] acres available for economic

[1:59:25] development. Uh, in JANUARY,

[1:59:27] when the sports complex uh Task

[1:59:29] force first um recommended this

[1:59:31] property, the asking price was

[1:59:32] about 5.5 million, which

[1:59:33] oversees our exceeded our

[1:59:35] budget at the time. Uh, since

[1:59:36] then, the current asset price

[1:59:38] has come down to 3.2 million

[1:59:39] for this property. A little bit

[1:59:41] more about this property. Um,

[1:59:45] and excuse me, an appraisal

[1:59:48] received, uh, in MARCH of 2026

[1:59:49] that stated the current market

[1:59:51] value for the property was

[1:59:53] 3,318,000, which is about

[1:59:57] 21,000 per acre. Um, important

[1:59:58] to note that a potentially

[2:00:00] acquiring acquiring this

[2:00:01] parcel, uh, would give the city

[2:00:02] ownership of all the property

[2:00:04] outlined in red. So of course,

[2:00:05] we take over management of

[2:00:06] Acres North Recreation Complex,

[2:00:10] which is, uh, parcel 58471. And

[2:00:11] then, of course, we have this

[2:00:11] parcel we

[2:00:12] re talking about now.

[2:00:14] And then in JANUARY, uh, the

[2:00:16] city acquired parcels two, two,

[2:00:19] five, zero five and 2123 south

[2:00:20] of 264. That

[2:00:21] s, uh, also

[2:00:22] outlined in red. And also the

[2:00:24] city already owns and operates

[2:00:25] uh, Bradford Creek Soccer

[2:00:27] Complex, which is uh, parcel

[2:00:31] 59120. So this would have in

[2:00:32] control of all these properties

[2:00:32] or ownership. All these

[2:00:34] properties would, um, give the

[2:00:35] city significant control of

[2:00:36] what is development around the

[2:00:38] sports complex, uh, sports,

[2:00:39] commercial, retail,

[2:00:42] hospitality, uh, and housing,

[2:00:44] uh, supporting the note that we

[2:00:46] started due diligence process,

[2:00:47] uh, on this property. Uh, the

[2:00:50] due diligence ends AUGUST 31st,

[2:00:52] 2026. Uh, so far, the report

[2:00:53] returned, uh, no issues with

[2:00:55] the property. Uh, and it

[2:00:55] s

[2:00:56] suitable for constructing

[2:00:58] constructing a future sports

[2:01:01] complex. So this is a little

[2:01:03] outline or overview of the

[2:01:04] property exchange in more

[2:01:05] detail. So the first step would

[2:01:07] be a private party purchase.

[2:01:10] The property located adjacent

[2:01:12] to Northgate. Uh jv Holdings

[2:01:13] llc has offered to purchase the

[2:01:15] property. Uh, second step would

[2:01:16] be the city entered into an

[2:01:18] agreement to exchange, uh, the

[2:01:20] 10th Street property, plus cash

[2:01:22] for the property, uh, now owned

[2:01:23] by ghb Holdings, uh, which will

[2:01:24] be, of course, the property

[2:01:26] adjacent to East North

[2:01:27] Recreation Complex. And third

[2:01:30] step will be ghb Holdings. Uh,

[2:01:31] receives old state highway

[2:01:36] patrol property and $2,341,000

[2:01:38] cash from the city. Then the

[2:01:39] city within acquire property

[2:01:40] adjacent to the North.

[2:01:41] Rock.

[2:01:41] Location.

[2:01:42] 264 East.

[2:01:44] Uh. Summary of total cash

[2:01:46] payout. Uh, the city acquires

[2:01:47] the parcel. Uh, so there is no

[2:01:48] exchange? Uh, it

[2:01:50] ll be $3.2

[2:01:51] million. This is the selling

[2:01:53] price. Um, if the exchange for

[2:01:55] East 10th Street property plus

[2:01:57] cash is approved, uh, the value

[2:02:03] will be 2,395,538. Uh, cash

[2:02:05] savings of five 854,000 for the

[2:02:07] city. Uh, funding details. Uh,

[2:02:09] total cash payout will be

[2:02:12] 2,395,000. Uh, funding source

[2:02:13] is hotel tax capital fund. And

[2:02:13] there

[2:02:15] s no sufficient capacity

[2:02:16] in the fund to acquire property

[2:02:18] through combination of private

[2:02:21] exchange, cash and financing.

[2:02:23] And recommendation city Council

[2:02:24] adopt the resolution

[2:02:25] authorizing the exchange of

[2:02:27] property with ghb Holdings, llc

[2:02:29] and the city Manager Mayor to

[2:02:30] execute any documentation

[2:02:32] needed to effectuate the

[2:02:33] transaction. And I

[2:02:34] ll be glad

[2:02:34] to answer any.

[2:02:36] Questions.

[2:02:43] Any questions. Anybody wanna

[2:02:44] make a motion?

[2:02:45] So.

[2:02:45] Second.

[2:02:46] All right. Motion made by

[2:02:47] Councilmember Hardy, saved by

[2:02:48] COUNCILMAN Robinson. Any other

[2:02:52] discussion? All those in favor

[2:02:53] say aye.

[2:02:53] Aye, aye.

[2:02:54] Those opposed say nay.

[2:02:56] Motion passes five zero.

[2:02:57] All right. We

[2:02:58] ll move on to

[2:02:59] item number 22.

[2:03:01] Item number 22. Contract award

[2:03:02] for the update and

[2:03:03] implementation of the

[2:03:05] comprehensive plan. I call for

[2:03:06] Assistant Director Shanti Guppy

[2:03:10] for the presentation.

[2:03:11] Are you going to compete for

[2:03:13] the shortest presentation?

[2:03:13] I

[2:03:16] m going to try. So this is

[2:03:18] fairly straightforward. Um,

[2:03:20] this is to update and implement

[2:03:22] a comprehensive plan. Last

[2:03:24] year, the city issued a request

[2:03:26] for proposals or an rfp for

[2:03:29] this project. Uh, Bolton Mink

[2:03:31] was selected out of ten firms.

[2:03:32] We do have a member of their

[2:03:36] staff here tonight. In 2016,

[2:03:37] the city adopted Horizon

[2:03:38] s

[2:03:40] 2026. You hear me say all that?

[2:03:42] As the name implies, there was

[2:03:44] a ten year gap, which means we

[2:03:45] are at that point where we need

[2:03:48] to update. Um, maybe almost

[2:03:49] completely rewrite and adopt a

[2:03:52] new comp plan. So the main

[2:03:54] goals and objectives for this

[2:03:56] project obviously is to do

[2:03:57] goals, objectives,

[2:03:59] implementation strategies. This

[2:04:01] is based on technical review as

[2:04:04] well as public input. Um, some

[2:04:05] of the main items would be

[2:04:08] housing, land use, economic

[2:04:11] development, mobility and city

[2:04:13] facilities. It would also have

[2:04:15] alignment with the goals and

[2:04:17] objectives in our Udo alignment

[2:04:20] with um, North Carolina General

[2:04:22] Statutes, as well as well as

[2:04:24] other applicable laws and then

[2:04:27] robust and intentional public

[2:04:29] participation. Uh, there would

[2:04:32] be a task force that would be

[2:04:33] established. This board would

[2:04:37] have a device, of a group of

[2:04:39] citizens, stakeholders and

[2:04:42] representatives from the boards

[2:04:43] and commissions of the city, as

[2:04:45] well as city council members

[2:04:46] and any others that MAY be

[2:04:47] needed. There will be a

[2:04:49] significant amount of public

[2:04:51] engagement with multiple

[2:04:54] in-person virtual meetings and

[2:04:56] task force meetings, and then

[2:04:57] there will be a centralized

[2:04:59] project website, much like we

[2:05:00] have with the Udo, which is if

[2:05:01] you don

[2:05:02] t go to any of the

[2:05:03] meetings, you can still go

[2:05:04] online to find out what

[2:05:05] s going

[2:05:08] on and also give input. There

[2:05:10] will be three open houses with

[2:05:13] three themes, and each of those

[2:05:14] open houses will be held at

[2:05:16] four different locations in the

[2:05:17] city. So essentially 12

[2:05:20] different open houses. Um, the

[2:05:21] first cluster will be

[2:05:23] Greenville today. The second

[2:05:25] will be where do we want to go?

[2:05:27] And the last one will be how

[2:05:28] will we get there? Um, they

[2:05:28] ll

[2:05:30] also be a virtual open house

[2:05:32] For each of these, and there

[2:05:32] ll

[2:05:35] be a presentation for those

[2:05:36] that if you haven

[2:05:37] t been to any

[2:05:38] of the meetings, you can watch

[2:05:40] the presentation and it will

[2:05:42] bring you up to the current

[2:05:45] information. Um, for the

[2:05:46] adoption, there

[2:05:46] ll be a

[2:05:48] presentation of the

[2:05:49] comprehensive plan at the

[2:05:51] Planning and Zoning Commission.

[2:05:51] They

[2:05:52] ll make a recommendation

[2:05:54] to council, and then it will

[2:05:56] come to council for final

[2:05:57] adoption. As always, these are

[2:06:00] public hearings. This project

[2:06:01] is expected to last

[2:06:03] approximately 18 to 24 months.

[2:06:06] And with that, staff is asking

[2:06:07] you to approve the contract.

[2:06:07] And I

[2:06:08] ll be happy to answer any

[2:06:09] questions.

[2:06:11] All right. Any questions from

[2:06:16] Scooby?

[2:06:18] Thank you.

[2:06:19] Anyone would like to entertain

[2:06:22] a motion.

[2:06:22] Second.

[2:06:24] All right. Motion been made by

[2:06:25] Councilmember Harris. Second by

[2:06:26] Councilmember Willis. All those

[2:06:27] in favor say aye.

[2:06:28] Aye, aye.

[2:06:30] Those opposed say nay.

[2:06:32] Motion passes five zero.

[2:06:34] Hey, you. Hey, you were quick.

[2:06:37] You were there. That was.

[2:06:37] All right, let

[2:06:39] s move on to

[2:06:41] item number 23.

[2:06:42] All right. Number 23, selection

[2:06:44] of developers and allocation of

[2:06:45] city owned lots for the 50 and

[2:06:47] ten affordable housing

[2:06:48] initiative. I call forward our

[2:06:49] program coordinator, Tony

[2:06:52] Parker, for the presentation.

[2:06:54] Good evening, MR. Mayor. And

[2:06:55] city council.

[2:06:56] Good evening Tony.

[2:06:57] This is a selection of

[2:06:59] developers and allocation of

[2:07:01] city owned plots for a 1510

[2:07:04] program. We the purpose is to

[2:07:07] continue the implementation of

[2:07:08] the 50 and ten affordable

[2:07:10] housing initiative to allocate

[2:07:11] nine city owned lots for

[2:07:13] affordable construction and to

[2:07:15] select qualified development

[2:07:17] partners. Excuse me. Um, this

[2:07:19] is kind of a timeline here. Rfp

[2:07:23] was issued in APRIL 2026. MAY

[2:07:25] 2026. Proposals were due. We

[2:07:26] received three proposals, uh,

[2:07:28] MAY through JUNE 2026. Staff

[2:07:30] evaluation. We evaluated the

[2:07:32] qualifications, experience,

[2:07:34] capacity, design, approach,

[2:07:35] schedule and affordability

[2:07:38] requirements. AUGUST 10th. Um,

[2:07:39] tonight we

[2:07:39] re asking for your

[2:07:40] consideration and staff

[2:07:42] recommendation. Um, this is

[2:07:42] what we

[2:07:45] re recommending for the

[2:07:46] three construction. The three

[2:07:49] developers. We at that, we

[2:07:51] chose all Joy studio, Bernie

[2:07:52] and Bernie construction.

[2:07:54] Strictly business. Uh,

[2:07:56] builders. Um, each will have

[2:07:58] three plots to build on our map

[2:07:59] right here shows where these

[2:08:02] locations are read. Is all joy

[2:08:03] studio, Bernie and Bernie.

[2:08:05] Construction is in the blue and

[2:08:07] strictly business is in the

[2:08:09] gold or yellow. Um, we really

[2:08:09] picked these to be

[2:08:11] strategically located through

[2:08:13] West Greenville. Um, the

[2:08:15] community benefits are working

[2:08:17] on nine new affordable

[2:08:19] homeownership opportunities.

[2:08:19] Um, we

[2:08:20] re going to return some

[2:08:22] of this vacant property to, uh,

[2:08:24] productive use. It supports our

[2:08:25] neighborhood revitalization of

[2:08:27] West Greenville and also

[2:08:27] supports our city

[2:08:28] s affordable

[2:08:30] housing goals and employ small

[2:08:32] businesses, local small

[2:08:34] businesses. So development

[2:08:35] process is the follows. Um,

[2:08:38] city conveys the approved lots

[2:08:39] to selected developers. The

[2:08:41] developers received no notice

[2:08:42] to proceed and they had 12

[2:08:44] months to complete the

[2:08:46] construction. The developers

[2:08:47] are responsible for the

[2:08:48] financing, constructing,

[2:08:49] marketing, and selling of the

[2:08:51] homes. Um, each developer

[2:08:52] market the homes through their

[2:08:54] own real estate, professional,

[2:08:55] and all homes will be subject

[2:08:55] to the city

[2:08:56] s long term

[2:08:58] affordable affordability

[2:09:00] requirement. Staff

[2:09:02] recommendation is to approve

[2:09:03] the selection of all Joy,

[2:09:05] Bernie and Bernie and strictly

[2:09:07] business builders and, um,

[2:09:08] authorized city manager

[2:09:09] negotiate and execute the

[2:09:11] necessary paperwork. I

[2:09:11] d be

[2:09:13] glad to answer any questions.

[2:09:14] All right. Any questions for

[2:09:18] MR. Parker? I

[2:09:19] m sorry if I

[2:09:20] missed this, but is there,

[2:09:22] like, a target square footage

[2:09:24] for the houses, or is that

[2:09:26] just. Is that coming later?

[2:09:26] That

[2:09:27] s coming later.

[2:09:31] Okay. All right. Any other

[2:09:33] questions? Anybody entertain a

[2:09:33] motion?

[2:09:34] Motion. To second.

[2:09:36] Hey, I was just getting ready

[2:09:37] to say I needed two people to

[2:09:39] get involved, make some motion.

[2:09:41] So I appreciate that motion

[2:09:43] made by Councilmember Jones,

[2:09:45] second by Mayor Pro Tem Forman.

[2:09:47] And the discussion.

[2:09:49] I just want to say that, um, I

[2:09:50] know this has been a little bit

[2:09:52] of a process, but I really

[2:09:53] appreciate it.

[2:09:53] It

[2:09:54] s been it

[2:09:54] s been a

[2:09:56] gratifying process.

[2:09:57] Thank you.

[2:09:58] All right. Any other

[2:10:00] discussion? All those in favor

[2:10:02] say aye. Aye. Those opposed say

[2:10:02] nay.

[2:10:04] Motion passes five zero.

[2:10:04] All right, let

[2:10:05] s move. Tony.

[2:10:07] Yes. Thank you. Tony. Um, we

[2:10:07] ll

[2:10:09] move on to 24.

[2:10:10] All right. Item number 24,

[2:10:11] memorandum of understanding

[2:10:13] with the North Carolina Housing

[2:10:14] Finance Agency and Pitt

[2:10:15] Community College for the

[2:10:16] Revive and restore a pilot

[2:10:18] program. Again, I have a

[2:10:19] project coordinator, Tony

[2:10:21] Parker, to, um, with

[2:10:22] presentation.

[2:10:22] So we

[2:10:24] re really excited about

[2:10:25] this partnership. This is going

[2:10:27] to be a great partnership, not

[2:10:28] only for the city, but probably

[2:10:29] for the state eventually. Um,

[2:10:31] this is a memorandum of

[2:10:32] understanding with the North

[2:10:33] Carolina Housing Finance Agency

[2:10:35] and Pitt Community College for

[2:10:36] the Revive and Restore pilot

[2:10:39] program. What is Revive and

[2:10:41] restore? This is a proposed

[2:10:42] partnership between the city,

[2:10:45] pcc and the Finance Agency.

[2:10:47] Will be revitalizing distressed

[2:10:48] areas with a two pronged

[2:10:50] approach. One is acquisition

[2:10:52] and rehabilitation. The other

[2:10:53] is external enhancement for

[2:10:55] owner occupied housing. Um,

[2:10:56] this is a scaled effort to

[2:10:58] enhance our workforce

[2:11:00] development. This really aligns

[2:11:01] with our 15 and ten affordable

[2:11:02] housing initiative. It

[2:11:03] s funded

[2:11:05] by the financing agency with a

[2:11:08] $200,000 grant. So Greenville

[2:11:08] is on the move. We

[2:11:09] ve done good

[2:11:11] things. 50 and ten. Affordable

[2:11:12] housing initiative has been

[2:11:15] very successful. As Council

[2:11:16] Member Forman says, it

[2:11:16] s been a

[2:11:17] process, but it

[2:11:17] s been a

[2:11:19] gratifying process. Um, Lincoln

[2:11:21] Park has been done. We

[2:11:21] ve built

[2:11:23] several houses over there. Um,

[2:11:25] pcc house Relocation

[2:11:26] Partnership. It took a lot of

[2:11:29] work to move this house. Um,

[2:11:30] existing city rehab programs,

[2:11:32] um, very much involved in that.

[2:11:34] And, um, the ongoing code

[2:11:35] enforcement efforts are

[2:11:37] happening. We have affordable

[2:11:38] housing investments across West

[2:11:40] Greenville. And the key point,

[2:11:42] the key reality is we have all

[2:11:44] the apparatus ready to go on

[2:11:48] this. And the next one is a

[2:11:49] little.

[2:12:05] Success story.

[2:12:06] We just want to show you that

[2:12:07] we

[2:12:07] re.

[2:12:08] Moving towards.

[2:12:09] Um, it seems like it

[2:12:10] s been a

[2:12:11] long time coming, but it really

[2:12:11] is. It

[2:12:13] s been a great process.

[2:12:14] So what is the collaborative

[2:12:14] structure? We

[2:12:15] re going to have

[2:12:16] city Greenville. We

[2:12:16] ll do the

[2:12:18] property identification and

[2:12:20] acquisition, project management

[2:12:22] assistance. Community College

[2:12:23] will do the city engagement and

[2:12:25] continuing continuing education

[2:12:27] programming. The finance agency

[2:12:29] will pilot funding, will pilot

[2:12:31] the fund, will fund the pilot

[2:12:33] for us and the strategic

[2:12:36] guidance. Um, this is our

[2:12:39] proposed timeline this year. In

[2:12:40] JUNE of JULY, we did the

[2:12:41] planning and funding approvals.

[2:12:43] Then in AUGUST, SEPTEMBER,

[2:12:43] we

[2:12:44] re going to do the launch of

[2:12:46] the pilot program. Pcc student

[2:12:47] engagement begins and

[2:12:49] rehabilitation work will be

[2:12:51] initiated this coming fall

[2:12:52] through spring. We

[2:12:52] re going to

[2:12:53] see ongoing rehabilitation

[2:12:55] activity, exterior neighborhood

[2:12:57] improvements, and the workforce

[2:12:59] training implementation. This

[2:13:00] spring, we should see initial

[2:13:02] pilot completion. There will be

[2:13:03] a before and after evaluation

[2:13:05] of this and scalability

[2:13:07] assessment and year two

[2:13:11] expansion of the model. Staff

[2:13:13] recommends that City Council

[2:13:14] approved the memorandum with

[2:13:15] the North Carolina Housing

[2:13:17] Finance Agency for reviving the

[2:13:18] restored pilot program and

[2:13:20] authorize the City Manager, or

[2:13:22] his designee to execute the Mou

[2:13:23] and any related agreements. Et

[2:13:25] cetera. One thing I do would

[2:13:26] like to say also, is that this

[2:13:27] is looked at as possibly a

[2:13:29] pilot for the state. Um, it

[2:13:30] s a

[2:13:32] good program, good partnership.

[2:13:32] And I

[2:13:35] ll take any questions..

[2:13:37] No questions. But I will say

[2:13:40] this the 15 and ten and the

[2:13:41] rehabilitation projects, it is

[2:13:43] truly transformative for our

[2:13:44] city. But I

[2:13:46] m absolutely, 100%

[2:13:46] sure it

[2:13:47] s going to be copied by

[2:13:49] others in our state and maybe

[2:13:51] probably even outside. So thank

[2:13:52] for all the partnership and

[2:13:54] particularly those at pcc and

[2:13:56] the person who started us off

[2:13:57] with a vision about doing this

[2:13:58] and everybody

[2:13:58] s coming

[2:13:59] together. This is an amazing

[2:14:01] project. And Tony, I appreciate

[2:14:02] your help and everybody that

[2:14:03] works with you to make all this

[2:14:03] happen.

[2:14:04] Well, we appreciate your

[2:14:05] support. Also. It

[2:14:06] s been

[2:14:09] partnership with us all.

[2:14:10] All right.

[2:14:12] Move to approve second.

[2:14:13] All right.

[2:14:15] Thank you. All right. Motion

[2:14:17] down there. I know.

[2:14:18] I like it. All right. Most of

[2:14:20] them are made by Mayor Pro Tem

[2:14:22] Forman. Second by Councilmember

[2:14:27] Jones. Any other discussion?

[2:14:28] All those in favor say aye.

[2:14:29] Aye.

[2:14:30] Those opposed say nay.

[2:14:32] Motion passes five zero.

[2:14:33] Thank you very much. We

[2:14:33] ll now

[2:14:35] move on to item number 25.

[2:14:37] Item number 25, budget

[2:14:38] ordinance number one, on many

[2:14:41] of the 20, 2627 General Fund

[2:14:44] Ordinance. Number 26035

[2:14:45] Inspections Fund ordinance

[2:14:48] number 26035, capital Project

[2:14:49] Management Fund. Ordinance

[2:14:52] Number 240410. Engineering

[2:14:54] Capital Project Fund. Ordinance

[2:14:56] Number 22019. Street

[2:14:57] Improvement Bond Fund.

[2:15:00] Ordinance Number 17024.

[2:15:01] Greenways Capital Project Fund,

[2:15:04] or number 122007. And Special

[2:15:06] Revenue Grants Fund Ordinance

[2:15:09] Number 11003. And now ask our

[2:15:11] Chief Financial Officer, Jacob

[2:15:12] Joyner, to provide the

[2:15:13] presentation.

[2:15:14] All right. Good evening.

[2:15:16] Council members. MR. Mayor,

[2:15:17] good evening. Uh, we got budget

[2:15:19] amendment number one for fiscal

[2:15:22] year 27. Uh, will be impacting

[2:15:23] the general fund inspection

[2:15:25] fund, capital project fund,

[2:15:27] greenways engineering capital

[2:15:27] project fund, street

[2:15:29] improvement bond fund, and

[2:15:30] special revenue grant fund. We

[2:15:32] have item a which is

[2:15:33] appropriate fund balance for

[2:15:35] the comprehensive land use plan

[2:15:36] that will increase the general

[2:15:39] fund $400,000. Item b

[2:15:41] recognizes expenditures and

[2:15:42] revenues for code enforcement

[2:15:43] arising from city

[2:15:45] revitalization, reorganization.

[2:15:46] Uh, that

[2:15:46] s going to increase

[2:15:47] the inspections fund by

[2:15:50] $800,000. Uh, item c will be

[2:15:51] closing the Greenways Project

[2:15:52] Fund. Uh, that

[2:15:52] s one that

[2:15:52] s

[2:15:55] been around since about 2015, i

[2:15:56] believe. Um, and using the

[2:15:58] remaining balances to, uh, fund

[2:16:01] the Wildwood Boardwalk project,

[2:16:02] uh, that will be increasing the

[2:16:05] capital project fund by

[2:16:07] $252,000 and decreasing the

[2:16:10] Greenways Fund 6.6 million,

[2:16:11] which is what the total budget

[2:16:13] for that fund was at the time.

[2:16:13] So there

[2:16:15] s about $400,000 left

[2:16:17] over. Uh, once all the projects

[2:16:19] were completed, item d would be

[2:16:20] appropriating fund balance and

[2:16:21] recognizing revenues for the

[2:16:23] ShotSpotter program that will

[2:16:24] increase special revenue. Grant

[2:16:28] fund $169,000. And be

[2:16:30] recognizing federal forfeiture

[2:16:31] funds that will be in the

[2:16:32] general fund and increasing

[2:16:36] that $139,000. Item f

[2:16:37] reallocating funds from the

[2:16:38] Stream Permanent Bond Fund to

[2:16:39] the North South Connector

[2:16:40] project. Uh, that

[2:16:41] ll be

[2:16:42] increasing the Engineering

[2:16:42] Capital Project fund by

[2:16:44] $250,000, and there

[2:16:45] ll be no

[2:16:46] overall change to the Street

[2:16:48] Improvement Bond fund. Um, and

[2:16:49] item g, recognizing donation

[2:16:51] for the Wildwood West Fishing

[2:16:52] Access project. And that

[2:16:52] ll be

[2:16:53] increasing the capital project

[2:16:58] fund by $125,000. Although that

[2:16:59] brings the operating fund

[2:17:01] budget, uh, to just over 200

[2:17:03] million. And we recommend the

[2:17:04] council approved budget

[2:17:06] ordinance amendment number one.

[2:17:10] Any questions?

[2:17:11] Motion to.

[2:17:12] Approve. Second.

[2:17:14] All right. Most of them have a

[2:17:15] Councillor Willis. Second by

[2:17:16] Councilmember Jones. Any other

[2:17:19] discussion? All those in favor

[2:17:19] say aye.

[2:17:19] Aye.

[2:17:20] Those opposed say nay.

[2:17:22] Motion passes five zero.

[2:17:25] Shall move on to review of the

[2:17:27] AUGUST 13th, 2026 City Council

[2:17:28] agenda.

[2:17:28] MR. Maddox.

[2:17:31] The for that agenda be put on

[2:17:32] the screen for the public

[2:17:32] s

[2:17:33] viewing. We

[2:17:34] ll give that a few

[2:17:52] seconds.

[2:17:54] All right, all right. Move on

[2:17:55] to the city manager report.

[2:17:56] Just a couple things I would

[2:17:59] like to welcome all of our ecu

[2:18:01] students back for the semester

[2:18:02] they have returned. You might

[2:18:03] have seen a little bit of

[2:18:05] change in the traffic that we

[2:18:07] are excited for them to be

[2:18:09] back. Sure, we will get to know

[2:18:11] some of them. Real person over

[2:18:13] the next. Over the next few

[2:18:15] weeks. And then finally, I

[2:18:15] ll

[2:18:16] tell you what, I just have to

[2:18:18] give a big shout out to the

[2:18:21] city and staff for another

[2:18:23] great little League softball

[2:18:26] World Series. You will never

[2:18:28] understand the amount of effort

[2:18:30] that goes into that behind the

[2:18:32] scenes from our fire Rescue

[2:18:34] police, the miraculous work

[2:18:37] that Recreation and Parks does

[2:18:39] are solid waste department. And

[2:18:40] then our special events

[2:18:42] department as well. They just

[2:18:44] absolutely no pun intended.

[2:18:46] Knock it out of the park. And

[2:18:48] you know, it has an opportunity

[2:18:49] to show all the great things

[2:18:51] that we have here in Greenville

[2:18:53] and the comments from people

[2:18:54] all around the country and the

[2:18:56] world about our, our community.

[2:18:58] It really feels good. You know,

[2:18:59] when you put that much effort

[2:19:01] into it to to know that people

[2:19:02] really appreciate what we have

[2:19:04] here, right here in Greenville.

[2:19:05] So again, I

[2:19:06] d like to say thank

[2:19:09] you. Uh, to the best staff in

[2:19:11] the whole wide world. The staff

[2:19:12] of this evening. Thank you. So

[2:19:12] I.

[2:19:19] Have a.

[2:19:20] All right. City attorney

[2:19:20] s

[2:19:21] report.

[2:19:22] Thank you, MR. Mayor. I

[2:19:23] ll just

[2:19:24] say quickly. Um, the council

[2:19:26] had two good meetings tonight.

[2:19:27] The workshop and this meeting.

[2:19:29] And, um, also a shout out to

[2:19:30] the city attorney

[2:19:31] s office. Get

[2:19:32] to find assistant city attorney

[2:19:34] sitting over there with a

[2:19:36] strong, silent type of a lot of

[2:19:38] the background work gets done.

[2:19:40] And, um, so, uh, kudos and

[2:19:42] thanks to to the staff, I have

[2:19:43] two assistants sitting right

[2:19:43] there, two that.

[2:19:46] Were absolutely awesome.

[2:19:48] I.. I gonna say, you

[2:19:48] re lucky

[2:19:50] you said that. I could see

[2:19:50] both.

[2:19:51] Of them a little. I don

[2:19:51] t.

[2:19:51] Know.

[2:19:51] What he

[2:19:52] s trying to do right

[2:19:52] here.

[2:19:53] Okay? I

[2:19:55] m trying to do. Yeah.

[2:19:57] Nope. Hey, no pressure during

[2:19:57] the city clerk

[2:19:58] s.

[2:19:59] Report.

[2:20:02] You guys already know my staff.

[2:20:05] A one, as always. Thank you.

[2:20:05] Back there.

[2:20:06] Hey, one of them laughed.

[2:20:07] I think.

[2:20:07] It

[2:20:08] s okay in spirit. She

[2:20:08] s.

[2:20:09] She knows.

[2:20:09] She

[2:20:10] s doing the dirty work

[2:20:11] behind the scenes.

[2:20:12] Okay. That

[2:20:13] s right, I gotcha.

[2:20:14] And last thing is, just welcome

[2:20:16] back, students. All right.

[2:20:18] All right. Thank you very much.

[2:20:18] Let

[2:20:22] s start with the okay.

[2:20:23] Councilmember Robinson.

[2:20:24] Thank you, MR. Mayor.

[2:20:25] Um.

[2:20:27] Glad to have the students back.

[2:20:27] I

[2:20:29] m asking everybody in

[2:20:31] Greenville have a little more

[2:20:32] patience. Take a little more

[2:20:34] careful look at intersections

[2:20:35] and whatnot, because we

[2:20:36] probably got a lot of kids

[2:20:37] coming to Greenville for the

[2:20:38] first time. They

[2:20:38] ve not been

[2:20:39] here. And their first time out

[2:20:40] of the house, they

[2:20:40] re probably

[2:20:41] going to be distracted. So take

[2:20:43] a little more caution, be a

[2:20:44] little more attentive to what

[2:20:45] you

[2:20:47] re doing, and be patient as

[2:20:49] they move in and get settled

[2:20:50] in, because there are benefit

[2:20:51] to our community. We look

[2:20:52] forward to seeing them. Uh,

[2:20:53] number two, I

[2:20:55] m so, so excited

[2:20:57] about the sports complex is

[2:20:57] coming to fruition. It

[2:20:58] s been a

[2:20:59] long time coming, but we

[2:20:59] re

[2:21:01] making that progress now and

[2:21:02] starting to turn over dirt and

[2:21:03] putting down the fields. And

[2:21:04] that

[2:21:06] s exciting. And I think if

[2:21:07] any of you watch what happened

[2:21:10] the last nine days, take that

[2:21:12] and put it, uh, somewhat on a

[2:21:14] every weekend basis for 45

[2:21:16] weekends a year and see what

[2:21:16] that

[2:21:17] s going to do for our

[2:21:17] community, because it

[2:21:18] s going

[2:21:19] to do great things. Uh, I

[2:21:20] m

[2:21:21] excited about the boardwalk,

[2:21:22] Wildwood Park connecting the

[2:21:24] two. I hope we

[2:21:25] ll look at maybe

[2:21:26] trying to figure out how to

[2:21:28] utilize the mobile home parks

[2:21:29] that, you know, to perhaps

[2:21:30] figure out a way to connect

[2:21:31] that, because that would give

[2:21:33] us some additional land to put

[2:21:34] more hiking trails in or nature

[2:21:36] viewing or whatnot. I mentioned

[2:21:37] that last time, but I

[2:21:37] m so

[2:21:41] excited about that. Um, really,

[2:21:42] really want to give some kudos

[2:21:44] out to Rich ballot. Uh, you

[2:21:44] know, it

[2:21:47] s just another example

[2:21:48] of one of our local business

[2:21:50] people stepping up and not just

[2:21:51] doing his business in

[2:21:53] Greenville, but giving back to

[2:21:55] Greenville. He helped negotiate

[2:21:57] the land deal for us. He put

[2:21:58] the pier in at Wildwood Park,

[2:21:59] and that

[2:22:00] s just touching on

[2:22:01] some of the things that that

[2:22:03] man is doing. So rich, I hope

[2:22:04] you see this, and I hope you

[2:22:05] understand how much we

[2:22:06] appreciate what you and your

[2:22:07] family are doing for

[2:22:08] Greenville, because I do know

[2:22:10] you give back to to those who

[2:22:11] help you. So I appreciate

[2:22:16] everything you do. Um. This

[2:22:19] past weekend, uh, Brandon Kraft

[2:22:20] at the very back. Brandon,

[2:22:21] thank you for doing what you

[2:22:21] re

[2:22:24] doing. There was a fly in at

[2:22:25] Greenville Airport, and I

[2:22:26] m

[2:22:30] told 1143 people attended that

[2:22:31] event, which was amazing. I

[2:22:32] think y

[2:22:32] all didn

[2:22:33] t quite expect

[2:22:35] that many, but I think that

[2:22:35] says what you

[2:22:36] re doing to to

[2:22:38] create a new, uh, atmosphere

[2:22:40] for the airport. And I look

[2:22:41] forward to seeing what more

[2:22:41] you

[2:22:42] re going to do, because I

[2:22:43] have great ideas that you

[2:22:43] re

[2:22:44] going to do a wonderful things

[2:22:45] at airport, and we

[2:22:45] re going to

[2:22:46] keep moving it in the right

[2:22:50] direction. Finally, um, I don

[2:22:50] t

[2:22:52] think we know how big the the

[2:22:54] World Series. Of Softball is. I

[2:22:56] mean, people from all over the

[2:22:57] world were watching Greenville,

[2:23:00] North Carolina for nine days.

[2:23:01] But more importantly, I don

[2:23:01] t

[2:23:04] think we really understand the

[2:23:05] manpower and the woman power

[2:23:07] that has to go in to make this

[2:23:08] thing go off as the way it did

[2:23:10] from our volunteers to our

[2:23:11] staff workers to our employees,

[2:23:14] to ems, fire, police. I mean,

[2:23:16] the field was absolutely

[2:23:19] gorgeous. Everything like it

[2:23:19] was. Well, and we

[2:23:20] re seeing

[2:23:20] it

[2:23:20] s like we do it every

[2:23:21] weekend. I

[2:23:23] m just amazed at

[2:23:24] that. And I think it

[2:23:25] s amazing

[2:23:27] to see what we do on the world

[2:23:28] stage, because we were on the

[2:23:30] world stage for nine days. And,

[2:23:31] uh, it

[2:23:32] s cool to see that and

[2:23:34] to hear people just listen when

[2:23:34] you

[2:23:35] re in the stands. And the

[2:23:36] council member Willis was up

[2:23:38] there with her family and just

[2:23:39] listening to people talk about

[2:23:41] rambling. Wow, this is such a

[2:23:42] big event and seeing the pro

[2:23:44] players coming here. Oh man,

[2:23:47] that is so special. Uh, and we

[2:23:48] need to keep doing that, that

[2:23:49] program, because it is very

[2:23:51] unique. And the cool thing

[2:23:52] about is when you look in the

[2:23:53] dugouts, whether they were from

[2:23:55] Japan or from Italy or Canada

[2:23:57] or Florida or Kentucky or North

[2:23:59] Carolina, all these kids have

[2:24:01] the same faces and motivation

[2:24:02] to try and play softball and

[2:24:03] win. And I

[2:24:04] m so happy that

[2:24:05] North Carolina or as they say,

[2:24:05] Jocko, that

[2:24:06] s what they call

[2:24:08] it. Jocko. Um, my wife has some

[2:24:10] relatives that know a lot of

[2:24:11] these players, and they came

[2:24:13] down. So, uh, congratulations

[2:24:14] to North Carolina. I hope that

[2:24:16] we can perhaps get them in

[2:24:18] here. Uh, and one of our future

[2:24:19] meetings to recognize them. And

[2:24:21] those young ladies who put hard

[2:24:22] work in. And I think something

[2:24:22] that

[2:24:24] s telling is that if you

[2:24:26] talk to these young ladies and

[2:24:27] my wife is talking to her

[2:24:29] relatives, a lot of these young

[2:24:30] girls and the mayor knows this,

[2:24:30] they

[2:24:31] ve been playing travel

[2:24:33] ball for 3 or 4 years before

[2:24:34] they even come up to a stage

[2:24:36] like this. And so, again, I

[2:24:37] think that illustrates the

[2:24:39] importance of a sports complex.

[2:24:39] I

[2:24:41] m so proud of our city for

[2:24:42] putting us on the world stage

[2:24:44] and as a diamond to be seen and

[2:24:46] be shown and brag about some

[2:24:47] super proud of our city. And

[2:24:48] everybody helped put that on.

[2:24:49] And, uh, I just can

[2:24:50] t say

[2:24:50] enough words. I

[2:24:51] m very happy

[2:24:52] about that. And I look forward

[2:24:54] to next year. Uh, and first, I

[2:24:56] want to thank Margo. Margo, I

[2:24:57] hope you

[2:24:57] re watching for

[2:24:59] getting me from my car to the

[2:25:01] stands and all that special

[2:25:02] attention you gave me and my

[2:25:04] wife. I appreciate all that.

[2:25:06] Um, with that mayor, thank you

[2:25:06] very much. Those are my

[2:25:07] comments.

[2:25:08] All right. Thank you,

[2:25:09] Councilmember Willis.

[2:25:11] Thank you. Mayor. Uh, so

[2:25:12] congratulations to the junior

[2:25:13] fire marshals who are

[2:25:15] recognized this evening. Um,

[2:25:17] they, um, seemed so excited.

[2:25:18] And I know they were able to

[2:25:19] learn a lot through the

[2:25:21] program. So congratulations to

[2:25:22] them. Um, and also the life

[2:25:23] skills that they were able to

[2:25:25] learn. I think that has to to

[2:25:27] be noted that you never know

[2:25:28] what could be the impact of

[2:25:31] that. Also, again, to the

[2:25:33] winners of the, uh, Softball

[2:25:34] World Series, a Little League

[2:25:35] Softball World Series, I

[2:25:37] believe the ladies were from

[2:25:38] Clayton. Um, and so just the

[2:25:40] immense sense of pride being in

[2:25:42] Greenville, hosting them, um,

[2:25:43] but also to cheer on the North

[2:25:45] Carolina team was great. Um,

[2:25:47] the games were wonderful and it

[2:25:48] was something for our families

[2:25:50] to enjoy. Uh, over this past

[2:25:52] week. So congratulations to

[2:25:53] them, to the partners and the

[2:25:55] staff who made it happen, like

[2:25:56] Council Member Robinson said,

[2:25:59] it was phenomenal. And just

[2:26:00] know the work that happened

[2:26:01] behind the scenes is

[2:26:03] incredible. So kudos to all

[2:26:04] those who had a part to play in

[2:26:06] it. I also had written down the

[2:26:08] Greenville um, airport or the

[2:26:09] Greenville airport, and they

[2:26:10] re

[2:26:11] flying in. Recently. I thought

[2:26:14] that was, um, really cool to

[2:26:14] see. Uh, we

[2:26:15] re already seeing

[2:26:17] innovative ways to think and to

[2:26:18] showcase our airport, and I

[2:26:18] think that

[2:26:19] s the direction that

[2:26:21] we should be going in. So I

[2:26:23] wanted to make mention of that.

[2:26:25] Also, thank you to the clerk

[2:26:25] s

[2:26:27] office and to Director Gooby

[2:26:29] for hosting Camp Playground

[2:26:31] this summer. They were able to

[2:26:33] come in and learn what their

[2:26:34] city government does for them.

[2:26:36] They are a rec and park summer

[2:26:37] camp, and they were able to

[2:26:39] come in there at the Barnes

[2:26:40] Building and were able to come

[2:26:43] in and learn, um, about how

[2:26:45] their city serves them. And so

[2:26:46] that was an awesome opportunity

[2:26:49] for them. This past summer. Um,

[2:26:52] also, I think. Um, nope, nope.

[2:26:52] That

[2:26:53] s it. That

[2:26:53] s all. Thank

[2:26:54] you mayor.

[2:26:56] Thank you, Councilmember Hardy.

[2:26:58] Uh, just to echo some of the

[2:27:00] comments on the flying day, uh,

[2:27:01] as a board member of the

[2:27:02] airport, we really appreciate

[2:27:03] everything that the staff does

[2:27:06] to, uh, boost our airport and

[2:27:07] put it in a better life for the

[2:27:08] community. And I thought that

[2:27:10] was a really cool, uh, day and

[2:27:12] initiative to let the community

[2:27:12] come in and see what the

[2:27:14] airport is all about. Then I

[2:27:15] just got some other things.

[2:27:16] Some good things happening in

[2:27:17] the district. Three. Uh, our

[2:27:19] students will be coming back

[2:27:20] and they start school on the

[2:27:22] 17th. Uh, this is kind of weird

[2:27:23] for me not to be getting ready

[2:27:25] to go out of school, but I

[2:27:25] m

[2:27:26] excited to have all my friends

[2:27:28] back in town. Uh, we are

[2:27:30] continuing to push students to

[2:27:31] get parking permits with our

[2:27:33] fine forgiveness and warning

[2:27:34] programs. Uh, we really just

[2:27:36] want to get them, uh, the

[2:27:37] parking passes. They

[2:27:37] re

[2:27:39] eligible for us so they can

[2:27:41] park illegally and correctly,

[2:27:44] uh, to, you know, give some

[2:27:45] relief to our permanent

[2:27:47] residents that, uh, can

[2:27:48] sometimes understandably be

[2:27:50] frustrated by the parking

[2:27:52] situation down in that Cerna

[2:27:54] grid neighborhood. Uh, the

[2:27:55] reword with code enforcement

[2:27:57] for efficiency is going to, uh,

[2:27:59] greatly help our efforts to

[2:28:01] tackle the minimal housing

[2:28:03] standards. Uh, in my district,

[2:28:05] as well as the education piece

[2:28:07] that we will be, uh, working

[2:28:10] with ecu landlord and property

[2:28:12] managers, as well as the hoa

[2:28:13] group. Uh, we

[2:28:14] ll be doing some

[2:28:16] sessions at ecu to educate

[2:28:17] students on their rights and

[2:28:19] responsibilities as renters.

[2:28:19] Uh, we

[2:28:20] ve got Woodlawn Street

[2:28:22] Construction that has started

[2:28:24] this past week as well as we

[2:28:25] just approved the contract for

[2:28:26] the Woodland Park. So it

[2:28:27] s good

[2:28:30] to see that, uh, the Cerna grid

[2:28:33] area is getting a nice

[2:28:35] facelift. Slowly but surely.

[2:28:37] Uh, a great more great things

[2:28:39] will continue to come. Uh, and

[2:28:41] then how can I forget about the

[2:28:41] Little League World Series

[2:28:43] happening on Elm Street? Uh,

[2:28:45] that is another great event for

[2:28:47] the district. That is my

[2:28:48] comment. Thank you. Mayor.

[2:28:49] All right. Thank you very much,

[2:28:50] Councilmember Jones.

[2:28:51] And thank you for starting out

[2:28:55] the way, um, mayor. So I do

[2:28:57] want to I also agree with the,

[2:28:59] um, congratulations to the

[2:29:01] junior fire marshals, the

[2:29:03] Little League, um, pit area,

[2:29:05] um, pit airport. And I also

[2:29:07] want to say in district one, we

[2:29:08] had the Jackie Robinson League.

[2:29:08] And I want to say

[2:29:10] congratulations to all the

[2:29:11] winners of the Jackie Robinson

[2:29:13] League. Of course, I had to

[2:29:16] shout out the Red Sox, I have

[2:29:18] to, um, and I also want to

[2:29:19] thank the city for helping with

[2:29:21] the pool party that they had on

[2:29:23] yesterday. Um, and also for

[2:29:25] cutting the trees back. So now

[2:29:27] we really do need those

[2:29:29] bleachers because it was hot

[2:29:31] and we need them covered. It

[2:29:32] was really hot. But we do thank

[2:29:33] you for the trees down, cutting

[2:29:35] the trees back. But if we could

[2:29:36] look into those bleachers, I

[2:29:37] appreciate it. Y

[2:29:37] all have a

[2:29:39] great day.

[2:29:41] Thank you. All right. Mayor Pro

[2:29:42] Tem Forman.

[2:29:45] Um, I mirror everyone else

[2:29:45] s

[2:29:50] comments. Um, also, I want to

[2:29:52] highlight again, uh, what was

[2:29:55] said by, uh, Seth as it relates

[2:29:56] to addressing substandard

[2:29:58] housing and really excited

[2:30:00] about the efforts that we are

[2:30:01] being made with code

[2:30:04] enforcement to, um, remedy the

[2:30:05] situations that we

[2:30:05] re

[2:30:08] experiencing in our community.

[2:30:11] Um, as well as what, uh, the

[2:30:13] Jackie Robinson Baseball League

[2:30:15] and, uh, Little League Softball

[2:30:18] World Series. Uh, seeing those

[2:30:20] athletes, uh, the level of

[2:30:22] commitment that they have, um,

[2:30:23] and I don

[2:30:24] t know that everyone

[2:30:25] realizes that they have to go

[2:30:27] through four levels to get

[2:30:30] here. Um, and so the commitment

[2:30:31] from them and their families is

[2:30:35] very impressive. Um, I also

[2:30:38] want to highlight again, um, I

[2:30:38] know we

[2:30:40] re talking a lot about

[2:30:43] curfew downtown. Um, but, uh,

[2:30:46] that is a symptom. Um, when we

[2:30:49] have teen takeovers of the fact

[2:30:51] that we do not have enough for

[2:30:52] our teens to do. And, uh,

[2:30:53] there

[2:30:54] s a lot of things going

[2:30:55] on in our community to help

[2:30:57] remedy that. Uh, there

[2:30:58] s some

[2:30:59] wave. There have been some

[2:31:01] other community, um, events

[2:31:03] that have been put together to

[2:31:05] remedy that. And, um, and would

[2:31:07] like to see us continue to

[2:31:08] support those efforts from

[2:31:10] within the community that are

[2:31:11] offered by people that

[2:31:13] understand the needs and

[2:31:15] interests at a different level

[2:31:16] to make things culturally

[2:31:19] relevant. Um, and then I also

[2:31:20] see Brandon in the back, back

[2:31:24] there. And, uh, I was at the

[2:31:28] airport event, um, with, uh, my

[2:31:31] grandson and, uh, and a cousin.

[2:31:34] Uh, um. That

[2:31:35] s awesome.

[2:31:38] And, um, and we had an

[2:31:41] absolutely awesome time. Um, it

[2:31:43] was nice to see something like

[2:31:45] that with our airport, and it

[2:31:46] was a reflection of the fact

[2:31:46] that we

[2:31:47] re moving in a better

[2:31:50] direction. So, uh, one of the

[2:31:52] highlight that they enjoyed the

[2:31:54] planes, and I think they voted

[2:31:56] on one of the, the yellow

[2:31:57] helicopters, if I remember

[2:31:59] correctly, was their, uh, their

[2:32:02] favorite. Um, that day. And,

[2:32:03] um, and so meeting Stewart and

[2:32:06] his wife and the their jet was

[2:32:07] his, their favorite jet that

[2:32:10] they got to sit in and act like

[2:32:13] they were driving. So, um, want

[2:32:14] to elevate that. That was a

[2:32:16] very good event and looking

[2:32:19] forward to more of that. And

[2:32:19] that

[2:32:19] ll.

[2:32:22] Be all. All right. I would like

[2:32:22] to I don

[2:32:23] t know if we

[2:32:23] ve done

[2:32:25] this yet or not, but, uh, I

[2:32:25] d

[2:32:29] like to publicly congratulate

[2:32:31] Rachel Whitten here, who is now

[2:32:33] the, uh, new PRESIDENT And ceo

[2:32:36] of the cvb. She takes over for

[2:32:37] Andrew Schmidt, who is with the

[2:32:38] cvb. For how many years?

[2:32:40] 32.

[2:32:42] 32 years. Wow. Big shoes to

[2:32:44] fill. But if anybody can do it,

[2:32:46] you can do it. I know it, and

[2:32:47] we want to say thank you to you

[2:32:48] for all that you did during the

[2:32:49] Little League Softball World

[2:32:50] Series. Also, I saw, uh, Rachel

[2:32:53] out there braving the heat. Um,

[2:32:54] and I can just tell by the end,

[2:32:56] when I was walking away after

[2:32:57] the last game, I could tell

[2:32:58] that Rachel, as well as all of

[2:33:00] our staff members and all the

[2:33:01] volunteers. We

[2:33:02] re glad that it

[2:33:03] happened, but I think we

[2:33:03] re

[2:33:04] glad to see it in two also,

[2:33:06] because we appreciate all that

[2:33:07] you do. Thank you to our city

[2:33:09] staff. Thank you to all the

[2:33:11] volunteers. Thank you to eku,

[2:33:11] uh, who

[2:33:12] s also an integral

[2:33:14] partner in being able to put on

[2:33:15] the Little League Softball

[2:33:16] World Series. They offer up

[2:33:18] their dorms. Um, I know that,

[2:33:19] uh, they clean all the jerseys

[2:33:21] and uniforms of the girls. Uh,

[2:33:23] throughout the week. Uh, and I

[2:33:24] know they provide a whole bunch

[2:33:25] of resources, too. I think as

[2:33:26] far as, like, probably

[2:33:28] transportation, I think. And

[2:33:30] and food, uh, throughout the

[2:33:31] entire week. So thank you to

[2:33:33] them for doing that. And, you

[2:33:34] know, most importantly, thank

[2:33:35] you to Little League

[2:33:37] International for giving us a

[2:33:38] chance. What was it six years

[2:33:40] ago? Six years ago, they made

[2:33:43] the decision to come and host

[2:33:43] the Little League Softball

[2:33:45] World Series in our community.

[2:33:46] They took a chance on us and I

[2:33:48] feel like we did pretty good.

[2:33:49] Um, I think over the last six

[2:33:50] years, we

[2:33:51] ve continued to see

[2:33:52] the Little League Softball

[2:33:54] World Series continue to grow.

[2:33:55] Um, it was pretty awesome to

[2:33:57] see over 3000 fans out there

[2:33:59] for the championship game. The

[2:34:01] city of Greenville was lucky to

[2:34:03] be able to be on, uh, national

[2:34:05] and international tv for over a

[2:34:07] week. We got a tremendous

[2:34:08] amount of publicity off of

[2:34:10] that. And even leading up to

[2:34:12] that, they play all the

[2:34:13] regional games throughout the

[2:34:14] entire country. And one of the

[2:34:16] taglines is The Road to

[2:34:17] Greenville. So we get a

[2:34:19] tremendous amount of publicity

[2:34:21] for hosting the Little League

[2:34:22] Softball World Series. So I

[2:34:23] just want to say thank you so

[2:34:24] much to the Little League

[2:34:26] International for entrusting us

[2:34:27] and giving us the opportunity

[2:34:28] to be able to show that we can

[2:34:30] host it. I feel like we are

[2:34:31] both dedicated partners. The

[2:34:32] city of Greenville, as well as

[2:34:34] Little League International, to

[2:34:36] continuing to grow the, uh, the

[2:34:37] softball World Series here in

[2:34:38] our community, making it better

[2:34:39] and ultimately making it a

[2:34:40] better experience for all the

[2:34:42] girls that participate in it. I

[2:34:43] was fortunate enough. I know

[2:34:45] one of the girls, uh, family

[2:34:47] members that, uh, uh, was on

[2:34:49] the Johnson County team, and I

[2:34:50] was able to talk to them

[2:34:51] before. And I said, you have no

[2:34:52] idea what you

[2:34:53] re getting into.

[2:34:54] Like I said, you have no idea

[2:34:55] the experience that your

[2:34:57] daughter is about to to have,

[2:34:58] uh, here in Greenville, North

[2:34:59] Carolina. And I got to see them

[2:35:00] after they won the

[2:35:01] championship. I said, I told

[2:35:02] you it was going to be good,

[2:35:03] and I knew it probably exceeded

[2:35:05] the expectations that they had.

[2:35:06] I mean, they were treated like

[2:35:09] absolute royalty all week long,

[2:35:10] which they they deserve because

[2:35:12] they have worked very, very

[2:35:13] hard. Like Council Member

[2:35:14] Robinson had said, a lot of

[2:35:15] those girls have been playing

[2:35:18] travel ball for 5 to 6 years,

[2:35:20] and they put in a tremendous

[2:35:21] amount of work. They

[2:35:21] re showing

[2:35:22] up on Saturday mornings at

[2:35:24] 10:00 in the morning. I don

[2:35:24] t

[2:35:26] know how many 13 year old kids

[2:35:28] are, uh, getting practicing at

[2:35:30] 10 A.M. On Saturday morning and

[2:35:31] trying to get the work in to be

[2:35:32] able to get to play at that

[2:35:35] level. So congratulations to

[2:35:36] all the girls, not just North

[2:35:36] Carolina. We

[2:35:37] re we

[2:35:37] re

[2:35:38] thankful that they won, but all

[2:35:40] the girls that came throughout

[2:35:41] the entire country, throughout

[2:35:43] the entire world to come to

[2:35:44] Greenville, North Carolina. And

[2:35:45] thank you to all the citizens

[2:35:46] of Greenville that were so

[2:35:48] welcoming to everybody that

[2:35:50] came and visited us. Every year

[2:35:51] I get to hear really cool and

[2:35:53] exciting comments from people

[2:35:54] that visit. I gotta say, I

[2:35:56] think the funniest one was this

[2:35:58] last, uh, this I think it was

[2:36:00] on Sunday or Friday. Uh, we

[2:36:03] were sitting there and one of

[2:36:04] the, uh, the people said, man,

[2:36:06] these concession stands are

[2:36:07] awesome. So I

[2:36:07] ve never heard

[2:36:09] that before. So we must have

[2:36:10] some really good food here in

[2:36:14] Eastern Paradise. So with that,

[2:36:16] I need a motion to adjourn.

[2:36:17] Motion to adjourn. Second.

[2:36:18] All right. Motion been made by

[2:36:19] Councilmember Robinson. Second

[2:36:20] by Councilmember Hardy. All

[2:36:21] those in favor say aye. Aye.

[2:36:22] Opposed. Say nay.

[2:36:25] Motion passes five zero.

[3:03:54] We are adjourned.

[3:03:56] All right. Good evening.

[3:03:56] I

[3:03:57] d like to welcome everyone to

[3:04:01] the AUGUST 13th, 2026 meeting

[3:04:02] of the Greenville City Council.

[3:04:02] I

[3:04:03] m mayor P.J. Connelly for

[3:04:03] presiding over tonight

[3:04:04] s

[3:04:04] meeting. First, I

[3:04:04] d like to

[3:04:06] call on Mayor Pro Tem Forman

[3:04:07] for the invocation, followed by

[3:04:08] the Pledge of Allegiance.

[3:04:10] Thank you. Mayor. Um, I was

[3:04:14] reminded this week of my wife.

[3:04:18] And oftentimes that, uh, we

[3:04:18] don

[3:04:21] t remember what the reason

[3:04:24] is that we do this work. And so

[3:04:26] I was led to share with us

[3:04:28] tonight, uh, first Corinthians

[3:04:31] 13. And it goes as if I speak

[3:04:35] in tongues of men or of angels,

[3:04:38] but do not have love. I

[3:04:39] m only

[3:04:42] a resounding gong or cymbal

[3:04:46] clanging. If I have the gifts

[3:04:49] of prophecy and can fathom all

[3:04:51] mysteries and all knowledge.

[3:04:53] And if I have faith and can

[3:04:55] move mountains, but do not have

[3:04:58] love, I am nothing. If I give

[3:05:01] all I possess to the poor, and

[3:05:04] give over my body to hardship,

[3:05:06] that I MAY boast only, but do

[3:05:07] not have love, I

[3:05:08] ve gained

[3:05:11] nothing. Love is patient. Love

[3:05:15] is kind. Love does not envy. It

[3:05:17] does not boast. It is not

[3:05:20] proud. It does not dishonor

[3:05:23] others. It is not self-seeking.

[3:05:26] It is not easily angered. It

[3:05:29] keeps no record of wrongs. Love

[3:05:31] does not delight in evil, but

[3:05:36] rejoices in truth. It always

[3:05:39] protects, always trust, always

[3:05:41] hopes. And it always

[3:05:43] perseveres. And my favorite

[3:05:45] part of this is verse eight

[3:05:48] that says, love never fails.

[3:05:49] Amen.

[3:05:51] Please stand for the Pledge of

[3:05:54] Allegiance.

[3:05:57] And allegiance to the flag of

[3:05:59] the United States of America,

[3:06:01] and to the Republic for which

[3:06:04] it stands. One nation under

[3:06:07] GOD, indivisible, with liberty

[3:06:12] and justice for all.

[3:06:13] MADAM Clerk, will you please

[3:06:14] call the roll?

[3:06:16] Yes, sir. Mayor Connolly here.

[3:06:18] Mayor Pro Tem Forman. Here.

[3:06:19] Council member Jones. Here.

[3:06:21] Council member. Hardy. Here.

[3:06:22] Um, Councilmember Sculley has

[3:06:23] let us know he will not be

[3:06:24] attending this evening. Council

[3:06:25] member Robinson here. Council

[3:06:27] member Willis here. All right.

[3:06:27] Mayor Connolly of.

[3:06:28] Thank you very much. We

[3:06:28] ll now

[3:06:29] move on to approval of

[3:06:29] tonight

[3:06:30] s agenda. MISTER

[3:06:31] Manager, any recommended

[3:06:31] changes?

[3:06:32] I have no changes.

[3:06:33] All right. Do I have a motion

[3:06:33] to approve?

[3:06:35] Motion to approve. Second.

[3:06:35] All right. Motion has been made

[3:06:37] by Councilmember Jones and by

[3:06:38] Councilmember Robinson. All

[3:06:38] those in favor say aye. Aye,

[3:06:40] aye. Opposed. Say nay.

[3:06:41] Motion passes five zero.

[3:06:45] Move on to special recognitions.

[3:06:52] I

[3:06:54] d like to ask Glen Wooten to

[3:07:02] come forward. Family.

[3:07:09] Sorry.

[3:07:13] So it is my honor to recognize

[3:07:16] Glen Wooten for his retirement

[3:07:18] from the city of Greenville.

[3:07:18] And I

[3:07:20] d just like to take a few

[3:07:23] minutes to read some comments

[3:07:24] that came directly from some of

[3:07:27] your coworkers. Just about you.

[3:07:30] All right, Glen, you, uh, you

[3:07:32] began your work with the city

[3:07:35] right out of high school, and,

[3:07:36] uh, started when the Public

[3:07:37] Works Department spent several

[3:07:39] years there and then

[3:07:40] transitioned over to the

[3:07:42] Recreation and Parks Department

[3:07:44] over the course of your career.

[3:07:46] Glen, you a valuable member of

[3:07:50] the team and built a reputation

[3:07:52] for doing things the right way.

[3:07:54] Now, they say, if you know

[3:07:56] Glen, you know that his truck

[3:07:58] and his tools retrieve like

[3:08:01] Fort Knox and everything was

[3:08:04] always locked up, organized,

[3:08:07] and exactly where it belonged.

[3:08:10] Glen is an incredibly skilled

[3:08:12] welder and craftsman, and

[3:08:13] someone who takes pride in his

[3:08:16] work as a building facilities

[3:08:18] technician and the department

[3:08:18] s

[3:08:21] chief playground inspector. He

[3:08:22] made sure the facilities were

[3:08:25] safe, clean and ready for the

[3:08:27] use by the public. Glen also

[3:08:28] spent his time mentoring

[3:08:30] younger employees throughout

[3:08:32] his career, passing on his eye

[3:08:34] for detail and workplace

[3:08:36] knowledge. The attention to

[3:08:38] detail and willingness to teach

[3:08:40] others are some of Glen

[3:08:40] s

[3:08:42] greatest qualities as an

[3:08:44] employee. And Glen, we, uh, we

[3:08:45] were fortunate enough to spend

[3:08:48] some time together a couple of

[3:08:50] weeks ago, and I told you at

[3:08:52] that point in time that that I

[3:08:54] felt that there was no greater,

[3:08:56] you know, gift in your life

[3:08:58] than to serve others. And

[3:09:00] clearly, that number of years

[3:09:02] you have gone above and beyond

[3:09:04] to serve this community and

[3:09:05] touched the lives of people

[3:09:06] that you

[3:09:08] ll never know. But

[3:09:09] now, after reading all the

[3:09:10] great things that your your

[3:09:12] department had to say about

[3:09:12] you, I

[3:09:13] d say also with that,

[3:09:14] there

[3:09:15] s no greater honor than

[3:09:17] to have individuals that you

[3:09:19] have worked around for years

[3:09:21] talk so great about what type

[3:09:22] of person you are, not just

[3:09:23] worker, but what kind of person

[3:09:25] you are. So on behalf of the

[3:09:26] City Council and the city

[3:09:27] manager

[3:09:28] s office and

[3:09:30] recreation, parks,

[3:09:32] congratulations and GOD bless

[3:09:33] you. Thank you for everything

[3:09:33] you

[3:09:34] ve done for the City of

[3:09:44] Greenville. Try to get this

[3:09:45] right without dropping it and

[3:09:46] breaking it, okay? Because it

[3:09:47] s

[3:09:48] got the mayor in my name and my

[3:09:51] name on it says in recognition

[3:09:54] of 29 years and eight months of

[3:09:56] outstanding service, we extend

[3:09:58] our sincere appreciation to

[3:10:00] Ronald Glen Wooten.

[3:10:01] Congratulations.

[3:10:14] Thank you.

[3:10:15] All right.

[3:10:17] Now, if I could ask the members

[3:10:19] of the impact generates

[3:10:20] influence basketball team, both

[3:10:21] the 12 you and the high school

[3:10:22] team to come forward. Any

[3:10:50] members that we MAY have.

[3:10:52] Congratulations, guys. Bring

[3:10:55] your.

[3:10:56] Oh.

[3:10:57] Hell yeah. There. You got it.

[3:11:00] I said earlier, I was I if I

[3:11:00] just had a little bit more

[3:11:01] time, I would have set that

[3:11:03] basketball gold up on the first

[3:11:04] floor. So we could have had the

[3:11:06] game before the meeting

[3:11:08] started. It is also, uh, my

[3:11:12] honor to recognize the igi. And

[3:11:12] that

[3:11:13] s what I will say. The the

[3:11:15] impact generates influence

[3:11:17] basketball team. Both the 12

[3:11:19] team and the high school team.

[3:11:22] They are local aew program with

[3:11:24] both a 12 year team again and a

[3:11:26] high school team all year long.

[3:11:28] Teams go head to head with

[3:11:30] tough competition and always

[3:11:32] bringing their best. They have

[3:11:34] some awesome wins lately. Let

[3:11:36] me tell you about those. The 12

[3:11:39] u team took home the 2025

[3:11:41] National Championship, and the

[3:11:43] high school team grabbed second

[3:11:45] place at nationals this year.

[3:11:48] But iga is about more than just

[3:11:50] basketball. They really focus

[3:11:51] on teaching their players to

[3:11:54] work hard, make good choices

[3:11:56] and stay true to themselves.

[3:11:57] The lessons learned on the

[3:11:59] court help shape what these

[3:12:01] athletes are and prepare them

[3:12:03] for whatever comes next in

[3:12:04] life. And now, what I

[3:12:05] d like to

[3:12:07] do is it might not be everyone

[3:12:08] here, but I would like to to

[3:12:11] recognize those with you where

[3:12:12] the certificates.

[3:12:15] Right here. So.

[3:12:16] I

[3:12:16] m going to.

[3:12:18] Let.

[3:12:18] So I

[3:12:19] m going to start with the

[3:12:22] 12 u team. And council member

[3:12:24] Tonya Foreman would like to

[3:12:26] present you with a certificate.

[3:12:28] Well, let me see if I can get

[3:12:29] this going right here. So we

[3:12:34] have, uh, Cruz Arrington.

[3:12:39] Domini Byram.

[3:12:42] Congratulations.

[3:12:46] Amari Smith.

[3:12:47] Congratulation.

[3:12:57] Jj Jones. Kamari. Farmer.

[3:13:03] Carter. Smith. Jordan. Smith.

[3:13:08] Zion. Cherry. Kaden. Taft.

[3:13:11] Troy. Harris and Jeremiah

[3:13:18] Williams. What a great honor.

[3:13:18] Guys, let

[3:13:29] s give them a. Now we

[3:13:36] have the high school kids.

[3:13:39] Okay.

[3:13:39] Let

[3:13:43] s try to double team this.

[3:13:52] We have Brenden Porter.

[3:13:56] Christian Eisler.

[3:14:01] Not here.

[3:14:10] Uh, Jackson Foster. Jalen Rasco.

[3:14:19] Keyon Beal. Keyshawn farmer.

[3:14:28] Landon. Ashley. Loyalty. Fuller.

[3:14:40] Enrique. Beal. Bonham. Ty.

[3:14:46] Daniels. And where

[3:14:46] s coach at?

[3:14:47] Where

[3:14:47] s Antoine.

[3:14:49] At?

[3:14:53] Come on up, dude. And, uh,

[3:15:08] Coach Smith. Tony.

[3:15:10] Amari.

[3:15:12] And Kamari. I

[3:15:12] d like to

[3:15:18] recognize Kamara as well. So

[3:15:19] now I

[3:15:20] ll turn it over to

[3:15:23] council members.

[3:15:25] I just want to make sure that

[3:15:27] these teams are acknowledged

[3:15:30] for their hard work, their

[3:15:32] commitment and excellence, as

[3:15:33] well as the coaches and the

[3:15:35] families that have supported

[3:15:37] them to accomplish these goals.

[3:15:39] These are great accomplishments

[3:15:40] that they work very hard for.

[3:15:40] I

[3:15:43] m proud of you guys.

[3:15:45] Also, I want to echo that too.

[3:15:46] Congratulations, guys. It

[3:15:46] s

[3:15:47] awesome to be able to see you

[3:15:49] guys competing at such a high

[3:15:50] level, representing our

[3:15:52] community, going out there and

[3:15:53] showing good sportsmanship.

[3:15:55] Thank you to the coaches. Uh,

[3:15:57] the coaches, uh, are they pour

[3:15:58] a lot of their time and effort

[3:16:00] into making sure that they

[3:16:01] teach you the game, but they

[3:16:01] re

[3:16:02] also teaching you other things,

[3:16:02] too, that you

[3:16:03] re going to take

[3:16:04] the rest of your life. So thank

[3:16:05] you for doing that and stepping

[3:16:06] up. It

[3:16:06] s not easy. It

[3:16:07] s a huge

[3:16:08] time commitment. I know that.

[3:16:08] It

[3:16:08] s, uh, it

[3:16:09] s tough sometimes

[3:16:11] you have to take off work. Uh,

[3:16:11] but it

[3:16:12] s good. And I think

[3:16:13] these guys will appreciate

[3:16:14] everything that you

[3:16:14] ve done

[3:16:16] over this season. And they

[3:16:16] re

[3:16:17] going to continue to look back

[3:16:19] at you as a good role model for

[3:16:21] making them better in life as

[3:16:33] they get older. So thank you.

[3:16:59] Okay. All right.

[3:17:07] For. All right.

[3:17:08] Now i

[3:17:10] d like to invite the 252

[3:17:11] ladies warms up here. Come on

[3:17:44] ladies. All right. These young

[3:18:00] ladies are swarming the stage.

[3:18:02] All right. Again, it is my

[3:18:04] honor to recognize the two,

[3:18:06] five, two ladies swarm. This is

[3:18:10] a local, uh, a local aew team

[3:18:11] that has achieved remarkable

[3:18:13] success in their inaugural

[3:18:16] inaugural year of competition.

[3:18:18] The team is made up of players

[3:18:19] from Pitt County, many of whom

[3:18:21] have previously played together

[3:18:22] in all star leagues and

[3:18:24] tournaments, with a regular

[3:18:26] season record of 16 and five,

[3:18:27] they earned the opportunity to

[3:18:29] compete at Nationals in

[3:18:31] Virginia Beach. They came

[3:18:33] second to a more seasonal and

[3:18:36] experienced team, just shy of

[3:18:38] the championship by one point,

[3:18:39] which is basically basically

[3:18:40] winning. Their outstanding

[3:18:42] performance is a tournament to

[3:18:44] their strong work ethic,

[3:18:46] determination and discipline.

[3:18:48] Now, I would also like to

[3:18:50] recognize each of you young

[3:18:52] ladies and present you with a

[3:18:54] certificate. We have scholar

[3:18:55] Zachary.

[3:18:57] All.

[3:19:08] London Pierce. Eva. Kate

[3:19:15] Stilton. Chelsea. Wilkes.

[3:19:28] Brielle. Little. Zoe. Watts.

[3:19:43] Jory. Morgan. Shayna. Heath. I

[3:19:48] love this name. Carmen. Cordon.

[3:19:51] Oh.

[3:19:53] I have to get. I have to get my

[3:19:55] spell checker. Get on my spell.

[3:19:59] Checker. Uh.

[3:20:15] Uh, Levy. Mia. Perry. And we.

[3:20:15] Let

[3:20:16] s all give them another

[3:20:17] round of.

[3:20:26] Applause.

[3:20:27] Anything else? What are you.

[3:20:29] Did?

[3:20:45] Yeah. Fumbling. So I want to

[3:20:47] reiterate the congratulations

[3:20:48] that I have for these young

[3:20:50] ladies. I have seen them play.

[3:20:52] And these are some real

[3:20:54] ballers. You all. Um, also, I

[3:20:56] want to elevate Mia Perry

[3:20:58] because I understand that she

[3:21:00] was the highest scorer as well

[3:21:03] as, um, had the most rebounds.

[3:21:06] Is that correct? Huh? She

[3:21:07] s

[3:21:10] acting shy. Alrighty. Okay, so

[3:21:11] we

[3:21:12] re gonna elevate her for

[3:21:13] that and, um, and congratulate

[3:21:15] the coaches also, thank you

[3:21:16] guys for everything you do in

[3:21:22] our community.

[3:21:24] Congratulations, ladies. Again.

[3:21:24] Um, I

[3:21:26] m not going to say that I

[3:21:27] who it was, but I talked to one

[3:21:28] of the ladies up here, and I

[3:21:29] asked them if they could take

[3:21:31] the guys, and they gave me a.

[3:21:33] Yeah. So, hey, I

[3:21:34] m just saying.

[3:21:36] So if something. Hey, if

[3:21:37] something takes place in the

[3:21:38] parking lot down there, I get

[3:21:40] it, okay. Hey. Congratulations,

[3:21:40] lady. We

[3:21:41] re really proud of

[3:21:42] you. I think it

[3:21:42] s awesome the

[3:21:44] accomplishment that you, uh,

[3:21:46] you were able to to accomplish

[3:21:47] with, uh, coming in second

[3:21:47] place. That

[3:21:49] s awesome. Hey, the

[3:21:50] one thing I always tell my

[3:21:50] girls. I

[3:21:51] m a coach. I coach

[3:21:52] softball. One thing I always

[3:21:55] tell them is, is when you lose,

[3:21:57] make sure you take that the

[3:21:58] next game that you play and

[3:21:59] make you work even harder. So

[3:22:00] that that next time you

[3:22:01] re the

[3:22:01] one celebrating, you

[3:22:02] re not the

[3:22:03] one with your heads down,

[3:22:04] crying and upset that you

[3:22:04] didn

[3:22:05] t win. Make sure that you

[3:22:07] always work as hard as you

[3:22:08] possibly can, because it will

[3:22:09] translate from what you do on

[3:22:11] the basketball court into life.

[3:22:13] And make sure that you work as

[3:22:13] hard as you possibly can,

[3:22:14] because anything that you want

[3:22:15] to do in life, you can

[3:22:16] accomplish and never forget

[3:22:26] that. Congratulations.

[3:22:46] I sounds great.

[3:22:47] You know, I

[3:22:48] m used to it.

[3:22:48] That

[3:22:50] s all that. Hey.

[3:22:51] It happens, man.

[3:22:52] You got.

[3:22:53] I try to give a hand.

[3:22:56] To shrug it off. I

[3:22:56] ll sit right

[3:22:59] here. All right?

[3:23:00] I won

[3:23:01] t be the last time.

[3:23:03] I hear the Lady Swarm team is

[3:23:04] they got a team. I

[3:23:04] ve heard

[3:23:04] there

[3:23:05] s some ballers. That

[3:23:05] s a

[3:23:07] really good place, I really do.

[3:23:09] I got the inside track.

[3:23:10] You would be surprised.

[3:23:12] I probably about 30, huh? So

[3:23:13] first, here

[3:23:15] s, you know. Can

[3:23:16] you imagine? So I

[3:23:16] d love to see

[3:23:17] it. I

[3:23:17] d love to see it.

[3:23:18] And they

[3:23:19] re at various schools

[3:23:22] around the city. So..

[3:23:23] Yeah.

[3:23:24] Can you play basketball?

[3:23:25] I was a point guard.

[3:23:25] Oh. Are you.

[3:23:27] Where are you? Good shooter.

[3:23:29] I was yeah, I was.

[3:23:31] I could imagine.

[3:23:31] You know.

[3:23:32] Did you break some ankles?

[3:23:34] I was a Dennis Rodman a

[3:23:35] rebound. Oh, I was pretty good.

[3:23:36] No good. Hi.

[3:23:36] I

[3:23:36] m. I

[3:23:37] m pretty good.

[3:23:37] I

[3:23:38] m gonna have to.

[3:23:38] I

[3:23:39] m gonna have to look up some

[3:23:39] of that.

[3:23:46] Footage. All right.

[3:23:48] Okay, good. All right, we

[3:23:48] ll

[3:23:49] move on to the public comment.

[3:23:50] Period of time periods. Period.

[3:23:51] Reserve for comments to public

[3:23:52] items that were scheduled to be

[3:23:52] a subject of a hearing.

[3:23:53] Conducted this meeting or

[3:23:54] another meeting in the same

[3:23:55] week shall not be discussed. A

[3:23:56] total of 30 minutes is

[3:23:57] allocated, with each individual

[3:23:58] being allowed no more than

[3:23:59] three minutes. Individuals who

[3:24:01] register will speak or register

[3:24:02] with the City Clerk will speak

[3:24:04] in the order registered until

[3:24:05] the allotted 30 minutes

[3:24:06] expires. If time remains after

[3:24:07] all persons have registered

[3:24:08] have spoken, individuals did

[3:24:09] not register will have an

[3:24:10] opportunity to until the lot of

[3:24:11] 30 minutes expires. MADAM

[3:24:12] Clerk, our first speaker.

[3:24:14] Yes, sir. First speaker is MISS

[3:24:15] Gwen Green. You have three

[3:24:16] minutes to address the mayor

[3:24:18] and council at that podium

[3:24:23] right there.

[3:24:23] Today

[3:24:32] s date.

[3:24:35] Mayor Conley, Mayor Pro Tem

[3:24:37] Forman, city council members,

[3:24:39] city staff and members of the

[3:24:42] community. Good evening.

[3:24:42] Good evening.

[3:24:43] I

[3:24:45] m Gwen Green. I

[3:24:45] m a

[3:24:48] Greenville resident. And I

[3:24:49] think of myself as being a

[3:24:51] vested and involved community

[3:24:53] member. I serve in

[3:24:55] organizations like Delta Sigma

[3:24:57] Theta sorority. I serve on many

[3:24:59] community committees. The

[3:25:00] National Council of Negro Women

[3:25:02] where I serve on the Budget and

[3:25:03] Finance Committee. I

[3:25:04] m a

[3:25:05] regular volunteer at my church,

[3:25:08] Koinonia Christian Center. I

[3:25:10] also volunteered with the West

[3:25:11] Greenville Health Council,

[3:25:13] where I co-wrote the proposal

[3:25:15] that brought face masks, hand

[3:25:17] sanitizer and other supplies to

[3:25:18] nonprofits, community

[3:25:20] organizations, and churches,

[3:25:22] along with now volunteering

[3:25:23] with Pastor Rodney Coles of the

[3:25:23] church

[3:25:25] s outreach network to

[3:25:25] establish children

[3:25:26] s book clubs

[3:25:28] and afterschool programs, we

[3:25:28] re

[3:25:30] hoping to disrupt the school to

[3:25:33] prison pipeline. And before I

[3:25:36] moved here some 12 years ago, I

[3:25:37] volunteered with a number of

[3:25:39] other volunteer organizations,

[3:25:40] including a community

[3:25:43] development board and a

[3:25:46] redevelopment board. In total

[3:25:49] transparency. I also serve as a

[3:25:50] commissioner on the Housing

[3:25:52] Authority of Greenville and in

[3:25:55] fact serve as its chair

[3:25:58] tonight. However, in the time I

[3:25:59] have left, I

[3:26:00] d like to allay

[3:26:02] the fears of some of the city

[3:26:08] councilors. The Housing

[3:26:11] Authority staff truly are

[3:26:13] working every day to provide

[3:26:16] safe, decent housing for our

[3:26:20] residents. I will concede to

[3:26:22] you that they

[3:26:23] re working under

[3:26:25] some very difficult

[3:26:28] circumstances. Most of our

[3:26:30] facilities are some 4050 years

[3:26:32] old. It gets real hard to fix

[3:26:37] those up and clean them up to

[3:26:39] the standard that we would all

[3:26:44] like to live in. However. I

[3:26:44] d

[3:26:45] like to address a couple of

[3:26:47] other issues that were raised

[3:26:50] in your work session, one of

[3:26:54] which was the inspire report.

[3:26:56] As it was presented. It truly

[3:27:01] was pretty alarming. However, I

[3:27:02] want you to know the Housing

[3:27:04] Authority staff was responsive

[3:27:06] to all the issues that were

[3:27:10] outlined in the inspire reports.

[3:27:12] Life threatening issues as

[3:27:15] defined by hud include smoke

[3:27:19] detectors, gfci replacements,

[3:27:21] rust on electrical panels, all

[3:27:24] of which have to be repaired or

[3:27:27] replaced within 24 hours. While

[3:27:29] non-threatening issues must be

[3:27:31] corrected within 30 days.

[3:27:31] That

[3:27:32] s time.

[3:27:34] You keep going.

[3:27:37] So the reports for 2024 were

[3:27:38] corrected within 24 hours for

[3:27:40] things like smoke detectors and

[3:27:43] gfci units, including a water

[3:27:44] heater flute that had a

[3:27:46] downward slope. They were they

[3:27:47] were corrected. I

[3:27:48] ve got the

[3:27:50] details here for you. And a box

[3:27:52] back there in case someone here

[3:27:54] would like to see the paperwork

[3:28:00] itself. As to the finances,

[3:28:02] financial reports are provided,

[3:28:05] presented and accepted at every

[3:28:07] meeting. Reports on rent

[3:28:09] collection and defaults are

[3:28:11] discussed because that too is a

[3:28:12] key responsibility of the

[3:28:14] Housing authority to collect

[3:28:16] the rents and by federal

[3:28:19] mandate and outside audit is

[3:28:21] conducted annually by a

[3:28:23] reputable financial

[3:28:24] organization that is actually

[3:28:26] switched out every three years

[3:28:28] to ensure that we are going to

[3:28:31] get fair representation of the

[3:28:31] work that we

[3:28:32] re doing. The

[3:28:34] latest audit was conducted by

[3:28:36] Rector, Lofton and Reeder for

[3:28:40] the fiscal year 2025, and I

[3:28:40] ll

[3:28:42] read very quickly their

[3:28:43] opinion. In our opinion, the

[3:28:45] accompanying financial

[3:28:46] statements referred to above

[3:28:48] present fairly in all material

[3:28:49] respects, the respective

[3:28:50] financial position of the

[3:28:52] business type activities of the

[3:28:53] Housing Authority of the City

[3:28:55] of Greenville. As of SEPTEMBER

[3:28:58] 30th, 2025, and the respective

[3:28:59] changes in financial position

[3:29:01] and where applicable, cash

[3:29:02] flows thereof for the year then

[3:29:04] ended in accordance with

[3:29:05] accounting principles generally

[3:29:07] accepted in the United States

[3:29:10] of America as to a work order

[3:29:11] process, none of us are

[3:29:12] satisfied with the existing

[3:29:14] process. The. The board

[3:29:16] receives a work order report

[3:29:18] every month it gets discussed.

[3:29:20] If not every meeting, then

[3:29:22] every other meeting. The need

[3:29:24] for a better system is, without

[3:29:27] question, needed. However, the

[3:29:28] Housing Authority is going

[3:29:31] through a total software

[3:29:34] transition. The transition is

[3:29:37] being phased in so that we want

[3:29:39] to make sure that things like

[3:29:41] grant funding is being

[3:29:43] accounted for properly, that

[3:29:46] our, um, accounts receivables

[3:29:47] and account payables, that it

[3:29:47] s

[3:29:51] working. And so if you will,

[3:29:52] the deadline for all of this

[3:29:55] phased phasing in will be

[3:29:58] completed by DECEMBER of 2026.

[3:29:59] But you got to give us time.

[3:30:00] We

[3:30:01] re not satisfied with the

[3:30:03] processes it currently is. We

[3:30:04] want tenants. We want our

[3:30:06] residents to be able to know

[3:30:08] that their work order has been

[3:30:10] accepted. Finally, as I know

[3:30:10] I

[3:30:13] m running out of time, I

[3:30:13] ve

[3:30:14] reached out to our Mayor Pro

[3:30:18] Tem at our last board meeting,

[3:30:19] I stated that we needed to get

[3:30:20] into a better relationship with

[3:30:23] the city, that it would not be

[3:30:25] possible to easily build brand

[3:30:27] new structures, brand new homes

[3:30:28] without support from the city.

[3:30:31] Members of City Council. I

[3:30:32] stand here this evening telling

[3:30:35] you I suffer with housing

[3:30:37] authority envy. I envy the

[3:30:40] Denver, the Durham Housing

[3:30:42] Authority because right now

[3:30:42] they

[3:30:43] ve got three developments

[3:30:45] in process various stages of

[3:30:47] development, one of which

[3:30:49] includes the Hey Ty village,

[3:30:50] which some of you MAY remember

[3:30:51] and recall. That

[3:30:52] s Durham

[3:30:52] s

[3:30:58] black market. Black Wall

[3:30:58] Street, i

[3:31:01] m sorry. There are

[3:31:03] many phrases that come to mind

[3:31:04] to describe the current

[3:31:08] situation. I think a failure to

[3:31:10] communicate at this point in

[3:31:12] time probably says it best. And

[3:31:14] so it is that I ask that a

[3:31:15] meeting be held with the

[3:31:17] Housing Authority to better

[3:31:18] understand not only what is

[3:31:20] being done, but what has been

[3:31:22] accomplished and what we

[3:31:22] d like

[3:31:24] to see going forward. Though

[3:31:25] there have been some quarterly

[3:31:27] managers meeting with city

[3:31:28] staff, clearly there needs to

[3:31:31] be more so that respectful and

[3:31:32] respected lines of

[3:31:33] communication can be

[3:31:35] established. I thank you all

[3:31:37] for listening. Thank you.

[3:31:37] Thank you.

[3:31:39] MR. Green.

[3:31:41] Thank you.

[3:31:44] MADAM Clerk, our next speaker.

[3:31:45] We do not have any additional

[3:31:46] registered speakers.

[3:31:46] Anyone else would like speak

[3:31:47] during the public period.

[3:31:48] Please come forward. State your

[3:31:50] name. For the record, you have

[3:32:02] three minutes. All right. See

[3:32:02] you now. We

[3:32:03] ll close the public

[3:32:03] hearing. We

[3:32:06] ll move on to our

[3:32:09] appointments. MADAM Clerk.

[3:32:09] Okay?

[3:32:11] Yes, sir. First appointment

[3:32:13] that we have is to the Invest

[3:32:14] Greenville Board. That

[3:32:15] s, um, a

[3:32:16] nomination made by you, Mayor

[3:32:18] Connolly.

[3:32:21] I would like to reappoint, uh,

[3:32:22] MR. Robert Cherry.

[3:32:23] Okay. They

[3:32:23] ll need some help.

[3:32:24] Make a motion.

[3:32:25] Motion to.

[3:32:26] Appoint Robert Cherry second.

[3:32:28] All right. Motion by MAY. By

[3:32:29] Councilmember Robinson. Second

[3:32:30] by Councilmember Jones. All

[3:32:31] those in favor say aye.

[3:32:32] Aye, aye.

[3:32:33] Those opposed? Nay.

[3:32:34] Motion passes five zero.

[3:32:36] Congratulations, MR. Cherry.

[3:32:42] Okay. And that concludes

[3:32:43] appointments from West

[3:32:43] Greenville.

[3:32:45] All right.

[3:32:46] Can you roll right on the.

[3:32:48] Number five. Okay.

[3:32:49] Um, boards and commissions,

[3:32:50] board of adjustment. Um,

[3:32:53] Councilmember Jones.

[3:32:56] I would like to, um, nominate

[3:33:00] the Lewis.

[3:33:02] All right. Is there a second?

[3:33:03] Second? All right. Motion

[3:33:03] s

[3:33:04] been made by Councilmember

[3:33:05] Jones. Thank you, Councilmember

[3:33:06] Hardy. All those in favor say

[3:33:06] aye.

[3:33:07] Aye, aye.

[3:33:08] Those opposed. Nay, nay.

[3:33:10] Motion passes five zero.

[3:33:11] Congratulations. And the Geo.

[3:33:12] Jones.

[3:33:12] Um.

[3:33:13] Hello.

[3:33:15] Lewis. Lewis.

[3:33:16] Yeah. That

[3:33:18] s Thursday.

[3:33:19] Uh, next we have the

[3:33:20] Environmental Advisory

[3:33:23] Commission. Um, that that, uh,

[3:33:25] appointment is assigned to

[3:33:26] Councilmember Skelly, so we

[3:33:28] will check with him next month.

[3:33:29] Um, next we have the Historic

[3:33:30] Preservation Commission.

[3:33:31] Council member Hardy.

[3:33:31] Uh, let

[3:33:32] s continue that,

[3:33:33] please.

[3:33:35] Okay. Um, we do have the

[3:33:37] Housing Authority appointment,

[3:33:38] however, that is for the

[3:33:39] resident Commissioner seat, and

[3:33:40] we are still waiting on a

[3:33:42] nomination from the residents

[3:33:43] Council, so I don

[3:33:43] t have one to

[3:33:45] give to you tonight. Um,

[3:33:46] multimodal Transportation

[3:33:47] Commission. Council member

[3:33:48] Jones.

[3:33:48] I

[3:33:50] ll let you continue that one.

[3:33:53] Okay. Um, also, multimodal

[3:33:55] Transportation Commission Mayor

[3:33:56] Pro Tem Forman.

[3:33:57] I would like to nominate

[3:33:59] Jonathan Metellus.

[3:34:00] Second.

[3:34:01] All right. Motion

[3:34:02] s been made

[3:34:04] by Mayor Pro Tem Forman. Second

[3:34:05] by Councilmember Robinson. All

[3:34:06] those in favor say aye. Aye,

[3:34:07] aye. Those opposed say nay.

[3:34:09] Motion passes five zero.

[3:34:11] Congratulations, MR. Metellus.

[3:34:12] Okay.

[3:34:14] Um. Next. Well, no. So

[3:34:16] multimodal. Transportation

[3:34:17] Commission Council member.

[3:34:17] Hardy.

[3:34:18] I like to continue that as

[3:34:19] well.

[3:34:21] Okay. Um, next we have the

[3:34:22] Greenville Convention and

[3:34:23] Visitors Authority.

[3:34:25] Councilmember Robinson.

[3:34:25] Um.

[3:34:26] Intend to meet with Rachel

[3:34:27] Whitten before I make that

[3:34:29] decision. And she just got in,

[3:34:30] so I want to do that. So I

[3:34:30] d

[3:34:31] ask that be tabled.

[3:34:33] Okay. Yes, sir. Um, next we

[3:34:34] have the planning and Zoning

[3:34:35] Commission. Mayor Pro Tem

[3:34:36] Forman.

[3:34:36] i

[3:34:40] ll continue that one. Okay.

[3:34:42] Um, police community relations

[3:34:43] committee, Councilmember

[3:34:44] Robinson.

[3:34:45] Uh, continue that, please.

[3:34:48] Okay. Yes, sir. Recreation and

[3:34:49] parks. Also, Councilmember

[3:34:50] Robinson.

[3:34:52] I would nominate Brian Fields.

[3:34:53] Okay.

[3:34:56] All right. Is there a second? I

[3:34:57] think I heard of this. I think

[3:34:59] I heard a split second there.

[3:35:01] Um, motion has been made by

[3:35:01] Councilmember Robinson, second

[3:35:03] by Councilmember Jones. All

[3:35:03] those in favor say aye.

[3:35:04] Aye, aye.

[3:35:05] Opposed? Say nay.

[3:35:07] Motion passes five zero.

[3:35:08] Congratulations, MR. Fields.

[3:35:09] All right, Mayor Conley, that

[3:35:10] concludes appointments.

[3:35:12] Thank you very much. We will

[3:35:13] now move on to new business,

[3:35:14] which are the public hearings.

[3:35:15] This is the policy of public

[3:35:16] hearings adopted by the City

[3:35:17] Council, petitioner or

[3:35:17] representative of the

[3:35:18] petitioner and a leader of

[3:35:19] those in opposition. We

[3:35:19] ll each

[3:35:20] have ten minutes Persis

[3:35:21] following. Then we

[3:35:21] ll have up

[3:35:22] to three minutes each with a

[3:35:23] total for each side, no more

[3:35:24] than 30 minutes. Additionally,

[3:35:24] we will remind those in

[3:35:25] attendance to extend the

[3:35:26] courtesy to person speaking

[3:35:28] during the public hearing and

[3:35:29] to the City Council during

[3:35:30] discussions. Comments made by

[3:35:31] members of the public are to

[3:35:32] occur only during the public

[3:35:33] hearing is allowed by the mayor

[3:35:34] in accordance with the adopted

[3:35:35] policy of the City Council.

[3:35:36] There should be no

[3:35:37] interruptions of speakers or

[3:35:38] council members, including

[3:35:39] expressions of support or

[3:35:40] disagreements or earlier by

[3:35:41] applause. As this is

[3:35:42] distracting and makes

[3:35:43] discussion difficult, we ask

[3:35:45] for your cooperation. Thank

[3:35:47] you, MR. Manager. Our first

[3:35:48] public hearing.

[3:35:49] Thank you. Mayor. Item number

[3:35:50] six ordinance to annex

[3:35:53] Cobblestone South involving

[3:35:56] 2.2168 acres located east of

[3:35:58] Allen Road and at the current

[3:35:59] terminus of Quail Drive. I

[3:35:59] ll

[3:36:01] now call forward our city

[3:36:02] planner, Deon Hodge, for the

[3:36:07] presentation.

[3:36:07] Yeah.

[3:36:09] Good evening, Mayor and

[3:36:10] Council.

[3:36:14] Good evening. I like it, I like

[3:36:15] it.

[3:36:17] This property is located in the

[3:36:19] southwestern quadrant of the

[3:36:22] city. More specifically, this

[3:36:24] property is located east of

[3:36:25] Allen Road and at the current

[3:36:28] terminus of Quail Drive. The

[3:36:29] current city limits are shown

[3:36:32] in green. The subject property

[3:36:34] is shown in red. This property

[3:36:36] is located in the Green Mill

[3:36:40] Run watershed. This property is

[3:36:41] located in the primary service

[3:36:43] area on the tiered growth map,

[3:36:45] and would be located in City

[3:36:47] Council voting district number

[3:36:49] two. This property is

[3:36:52] anticipated to yield 1010

[3:36:53] single family lots, with an

[3:36:57] estimated tax value of $3.25

[3:36:59] million. And that

[3:36:59] s. This

[3:37:01] property is located in the itj.

[3:37:02] It is important to note that

[3:37:04] under section six of Goose

[3:37:04] s

[3:37:06] charter, the development can

[3:37:07] still be provided. Sanitary

[3:37:09] sewer. If the annexation is

[3:37:10] denied, and I

[3:37:11] d be happy to

[3:37:12] answer any questions.

[3:37:13] Any questions?

[3:37:17] Uh, can you go back to the

[3:37:24] first. Uh, move forward? I

[3:37:24] m

[3:37:26] sorry. The map. The first map?

[3:37:27] No, it

[3:37:28] s the second map. Move

[3:37:31] forward with the red one. Yes.

[3:37:34] I just want to look at it again.

[3:37:43] Okay.

[3:37:44] All right.

[3:37:50] Any questions? Thank you very.

[3:37:52] Much.

[3:37:53] All right. The public hearing

[3:37:54] is now open. Those who speak on

[3:37:55] behalf, the applicant MAY come

[3:37:55] forth. Please state your name

[3:37:56] for the record. Your first

[3:37:57] person has ten minutes. All

[3:38:09] others have three minutes.

[3:38:10] Seeing none, those in

[3:38:11] opposition to the applicant

[3:38:12] come forward. Please state your

[3:38:13] name. For the record. The first

[3:38:14] person has ten minutes. All

[3:38:29] others have three minutes. I

[3:38:30] see none. Public hearing is now

[3:38:31] closed up for a board

[3:38:33] discussion or motion.

[3:38:34] Motion to approve. Second. All

[3:38:35] right.

[3:38:36] Motion for MAY by Councilmember

[3:38:37] Willis. Second by Councilmember

[3:38:39] Robinson. Any other discussion?

[3:38:41] All those in favor say aye.

[3:38:41] Aye, aye.

[3:38:42] Those opposed say nay.

[3:38:44] Motion passes five zero.

[3:38:45] Item number seven.

[3:38:46] All right. Thank you. Mayor.

[3:38:47] Item number seven. Ordinance to

[3:38:48] annex Lyndale East. Section

[3:38:50] five, phase two, involving

[3:38:53] 10.79 acres located at the

[3:38:54] current terminus of Remington

[3:38:56] Drive and Stonehenge Drive.

[3:38:58] Again, call for our city

[3:38:59] planner, Deon Hodge for the

[3:39:07] presentation.

[3:39:09] So this property is located in

[3:39:10] the southeastern quadrant of

[3:39:12] the city. More specifically,

[3:39:14] this property is located at the

[3:39:16] current termini of Remington

[3:39:19] Drive and Stonehenge Drive. The

[3:39:20] current city limits are shown

[3:39:22] in green. The subject property

[3:39:24] is shown in red. This property

[3:39:26] is located in the Fork Swamp

[3:39:29] watershed. This property is

[3:39:30] located in the primary service

[3:39:32] area on the tiered growth map,

[3:39:34] and will be located in City

[3:39:35] Council voting district number

[3:39:38] four. This property is

[3:39:40] anticipated to yield 21 single

[3:39:42] family lots, with an estimated

[3:39:48] tax value of $14.7 million. And

[3:39:50] as this property is located in

[3:39:51] the itj. It is important to

[3:39:53] note that under section six of

[3:39:55] gcs charter, the development

[3:39:56] can still be provided. Sanitary

[3:39:58] sewer. If the annexation is

[3:39:59] denied, and I

[3:40:00] d be happy to

[3:40:01] answer any questions.

[3:40:02] All right.

[3:40:03] Any questions for MR. Hodge?

[3:40:05] Just one. Do you anticipate

[3:40:05] that when they

[3:40:06] re built out,

[3:40:07] that they will connect to

[3:40:08] Stonehenge so they can exit out

[3:40:09] to Arlington?

[3:40:10] Exactly. Thank you. That seems

[3:40:11] to be the.

[3:40:11] Their goal.

[3:40:13] There. All right.

[3:40:17] Any other questions? Thank you

[3:40:19] very much. Public hearing is

[3:40:20] now open. Those to speak on

[3:40:21] behalf of the applicant MAY

[3:40:22] come forward. Please state your

[3:40:23] name for the record, the first

[3:40:24] person has ten minutes. All

[3:40:33] others have three minutes.

[3:40:35] Good evening. Good evening.

[3:40:35] I

[3:40:36] m Dwight.

[3:40:38] Nelson with Rivers and

[3:40:39] Associates. We

[3:40:39] re the agent for

[3:40:42] the owner. And, uh, be glad to

[3:40:43] answer any questions you MAY

[3:40:43] have. That

[3:40:44] s all.

[3:40:53] All right. Any questions? Thank

[3:40:54] you very much. Thank you. That

[3:40:56] was a great presentation.

[3:40:56] That

[3:40:57] s my.

[3:40:58] Favorites.

[3:41:00] All right. Anyone else is here

[3:41:00] to speak on behalf? The

[3:41:01] applicant MAY come forward.

[3:41:02] Please state your name for the

[3:41:16] record, you have three minutes.

[3:41:17] Seeing none, those in

[3:41:17] opposition to the applicant

[3:41:18] come forward. Please state your

[3:41:19] name for the record. The first

[3:41:20] person has ten minutes. All

[3:41:31] others have three minutes.

[3:41:32] Seeing none. Public hearing is

[3:41:33] now closed for a board

[3:41:35] discussion or motion.

[3:41:37] Motion to approve. Second.

[3:41:38] All right. Motion for MAY by

[3:41:39] Councilmember Hardy. Second by

[3:41:40] Councilmember Robinson. Any

[3:41:42] other discussion? All those in

[3:41:44] favor say aye. Aye. Those

[3:41:45] opposed say nay.

[3:41:47] Motion passes five zero.

[3:41:47] All right. Let

[3:41:48] s move on to

[3:41:49] item number eight.

[3:41:50] Thank you. Mayor. Item number

[3:41:51] eight. Ordinance requested by

[3:41:56] pobo llc to rezone a total of

[3:41:59] 56.3694 acres from ra 20

[3:42:01] residential agriculture to

[3:42:03] industry to industry for tract

[3:42:07] one, 47.5795 acres to o dash a

[3:42:09] office Conservation overlay for

[3:42:16] track 28.6062 acres and to o

[3:42:20] office for tract 3-0.1837 acres

[3:42:21] for the property, located at

[3:42:23] the northeast corner of the

[3:42:25] intersection of Old Creek Road

[3:42:26] and Tram Road. Costs for

[3:42:27] forward, our Assistant

[3:42:28] Director, Shanti Gubbi for the

[3:42:32] presentation.

[3:42:34] All right. Good evening.

[3:42:36] Good evening.

[3:42:38] Um, this property is located in

[3:42:40] the northeast quadrant of the

[3:42:41] city. Um, it

[3:42:41] s more

[3:42:43] specifically located along Old

[3:42:45] Creek Road. So just sort of to

[3:42:46] the top left. That would be

[3:42:49] Heister. Yale. This rezoning is

[3:42:50] divided into three different

[3:42:51] tracks. I

[3:42:52] ll go through them,

[3:42:53] but then I have a survey. I

[3:42:53] ll

[3:42:54] give you a little bit more

[3:42:56] detail. Um, but track one is

[3:42:58] the bulk of the property. You

[3:43:00] have tract two, which goes

[3:43:02] around the perimeter and then

[3:43:03] track three. I have a blow up

[3:43:04] of that. So it

[3:43:05] s just a teeny

[3:43:07] tiny little piece there. Um,

[3:43:07] and we

[3:43:08] ll talk about why that

[3:43:08] s

[3:43:12] been, um, uh, proposed for just

[3:43:16] office. So again, this is the

[3:43:18] breakdown of the different, uh,

[3:43:19] zoning that they

[3:43:20] re asking for.

[3:43:23] Track one is for industry.

[3:43:25] Track two is office with a

[3:43:27] conservation overlay, and track

[3:43:30] three is for plain office. This

[3:43:31] is a photograph of the

[3:43:34] property. So, um, Old Creek

[3:43:36] Road would be, uh, you know,

[3:43:41] sort of behind you. There is an

[3:43:43] activity center located along

[3:43:44] North Creek Road. Activity

[3:43:46] centers are where, um,

[3:43:49] commercial and even industrial

[3:43:53] is encouraged and expected

[3:43:54] under the current zoning, which

[3:43:56] is already 20 at full build

[3:43:58] out, the number of trips would

[3:44:01] be roughly 1600 and at full

[3:44:02] build out under the proposed

[3:44:04] zoning, the trips would be

[3:44:07] about 1548. So you have a net

[3:44:11] decrease of 48 or 43 trips. So

[3:44:13] because of that, um, when they

[3:44:15] did the initial analysis and it

[3:44:16] is a reduction in trips, then

[3:44:16] they don

[3:44:17] t go further with the

[3:44:19] staff report that you normally

[3:44:22] see. Um, the property is

[3:44:26] located in the second, the

[3:44:28] Johnson Mill Parkers Creek

[3:44:30] watershed. If stormwater is

[3:44:31] required, it will require ten

[3:44:33] year detention. The property is

[3:44:35] not located in a special flood

[3:44:38] hazard area, and there are no

[3:44:40] potential wetlands, buffers or

[3:44:42] streams. Again, the property is

[3:44:45] currently zoned are a 20. Um, I

[3:44:46] want to briefly talk about

[3:44:47] tract two because that

[3:44:47] s a

[3:44:49] conservation area overlay that

[3:44:53] is typically not, uh, a or a, a

[3:44:56] zoning that we have. Um, this

[3:44:57] is a zoning that we

[3:44:57] ve had for

[3:44:59] years. This is not something

[3:45:02] under the new Youdo. And the

[3:45:02] reason it

[3:45:04] s used, and this is

[3:45:06] straight out of our Udo, is

[3:45:07] when property is zoned with

[3:45:09] that ca overlay, then that

[3:45:11] means that, um, you

[3:45:12] re

[3:45:14] prohibited from having

[3:45:16] buildings, structures, parking

[3:45:18] and drives, etc. On that piece

[3:45:20] of property. So it essentially

[3:45:22] acts as a buffer. And then just

[3:45:24] a little bit further, it says

[3:45:26] it shall remain undeveloped,

[3:45:27] vacant. And again, you can

[3:45:28] t

[3:45:29] put building structures or

[3:45:31] parking on it. And then one

[3:45:33] other requirement is as it has

[3:45:36] to be at least 100ft wide. And

[3:45:36] so that

[3:45:37] s essentially why you

[3:45:40] have tract two at that, um,

[3:45:42] with that surrounding tract

[3:45:45] one. And the reason why is

[3:45:46] because the future land use

[3:45:49] plan recommends industrial or

[3:45:52] logistics in grey. And then you

[3:45:53] have the green. And that

[3:45:53] s

[3:45:55] potential conservation open

[3:45:56] space. And we talk about that.

[3:45:58] Green serves two purposes. It

[3:46:00] can either serve as a purpose

[3:46:02] for um, potential environmental

[3:46:03] constraints. But it can also

[3:46:05] show that there should be some

[3:46:07] sort of a buffer between the

[3:46:10] industrial and then the yellow

[3:46:12] is residential. So in this

[3:46:14] case, the request is to put the

[3:46:16] conservation, at the

[3:46:18] conservation area overlay

[3:46:20] around the perimeter of the

[3:46:22] property, track three is that

[3:46:24] little tiny piece. And they

[3:46:26] have left that as part of an

[3:46:28] access. So that

[3:46:29] s why the track

[3:46:32] three is just office by itself.

[3:46:35] So again the land, the Future

[3:46:38] land use plan recommends, uh,

[3:46:40] industrial. The request is for

[3:46:42] industrial with again some

[3:46:44] conservation area overlay

[3:46:45] around the periphery and

[3:46:46] staff

[3:46:47] s opinion. The request is

[3:46:48] in compliance with the comp

[3:46:50] plan with the future land use

[3:46:51] and character map. Therefore,

[3:46:54] staff recommends approval. And

[3:46:57] at the JULY 21st, 2026 Planning

[3:46:58] and Zoning meeting, the

[3:47:00] Commission voted unanimously to

[3:47:01] recommend approval of the

[3:47:03] request and I will be happy to

[3:47:05] answer any questions.

[3:47:06] All right. Thank you very much.

[3:47:08] Any questions for MISS Scooby?

[3:47:10] I just have one. Is it my

[3:47:10] understanding that there

[3:47:11] s an

[3:47:13] additional buffer or, um,

[3:47:15] between that and the properties

[3:47:16] surrounding.

[3:47:18] It?

[3:47:20] Do you mean for tract two or

[3:47:22] tract two? Is the buffer.

[3:47:23] Tract to is the buffer? But

[3:47:23] that

[3:47:25] s more than what is

[3:47:27] normally required.

[3:47:28] Yes.

[3:47:29] Does that make sense?

[3:47:30] Yes. It will stay in its

[3:47:32] natural state. So whatever

[3:47:34] trees are there, those have to

[3:47:35] stay there. Right. And again

[3:47:35] you can

[3:47:37] t put parking and you

[3:47:37] can

[3:47:38] t put buildings in it. But

[3:47:40] you will still have the normal

[3:47:42] buffers that would be required

[3:47:43] as well. Okay. So let

[3:47:43] s say

[3:47:47] extra 100ft of no buildings and

[3:47:49] no parking lot is essentially

[3:47:51] what that accomplishes.

[3:47:53] And that is near Dnipro where

[3:47:54] Dnipro is being.

[3:47:55] Yeah, that

[3:47:56] s just kind of to

[3:47:57] the south of it along North

[3:48:00] Creek Road. Mhm.

[3:48:01] Can you tell me a little bit

[3:48:02] more about why there

[3:48:02] s a cookie

[3:48:05] cutter track three.

[3:48:07] I let the applicant but again

[3:48:10] okay. The, the tiny piece is so

[3:48:12] there can be access ingress and

[3:48:15] ingress and egress because you

[3:48:16] cannot put that through the

[3:48:19] conservation area overlay. But

[3:48:21] again we have a representative

[3:48:22] here who can talk a little bit

[3:48:23] more about it. But it was

[3:48:27] purposeful.

[3:48:29] All right. Any other questions.

[3:48:31] Thank you very much. All right.

[3:48:33] The public hearing is now open.

[3:48:33] Those who speak on behalf of

[3:48:34] the applicant MAY come forward.

[3:48:35] Please state your name for the

[3:48:36] record, the first person has

[3:48:38] ten minutes. All others have

[3:48:40] three minutes.

[3:48:41] Uh. Good evening. Mayor.

[3:48:43] Council member. My name is Ken

[3:48:45] Malpass, representing Po Bow.

[3:48:46] Um, to address your question,

[3:48:48] MR. Robertson, what it is is

[3:48:48] there

[3:48:50] s an existing gravel

[3:48:53] drive that provides access to a

[3:48:55] couple, um, owners in the back.

[3:48:57] This, uh, old tram lane that

[3:48:57] s

[3:48:59] been there for probably 75 or

[3:49:01] 80 years. And because of the

[3:49:04] way the conservation, um, you

[3:49:05] cannot put a private drive

[3:49:06] through it. So we had to

[3:49:08] separate out that so they could

[3:49:10] still keep that access is what

[3:49:11] it is. And we met with the

[3:49:12] neighbors. And that

[3:49:12] s how this

[3:49:14] conservation overlay came

[3:49:17] about. Um, we had a 50 foot

[3:49:19] originally that would match the

[3:49:21] vegetation, and they asked for

[3:49:22] another 50ft. And I think

[3:49:23] everybody was in agreement

[3:49:25] that, um, with the compromise,

[3:49:26] that that would be okay. We had

[3:49:27] to leave that or that would

[3:49:30] have negated the. Access by

[3:49:31] doing the overlay.

[3:49:32] That was kind of my

[3:49:33] supposition.

[3:49:37] Right. Thank you.

[3:49:38] Any other questions?

[3:49:39] All right. Any other questions

[3:49:43] for MISS Malpass? Thank you

[3:49:44] very much. Thank you. Anyone

[3:49:46] else that is here to speak on

[3:49:47] behalf of the applicant MAY

[3:49:47] come forward. Please state your

[3:49:49] name for the record. You have

[3:50:01] three minutes. Seeing none.

[3:50:02] Those in opposition to the

[3:50:03] applicant MAY come forward.

[3:50:03] Please state your name. For the

[3:50:04] record. The first person has

[3:50:07] ten minutes. All others have

[3:50:17] three minutes. Seeing none. The

[3:50:18] public hearing is now closed.

[3:50:19] Open for board discussion or a

[3:50:20] motion.

[3:50:22] Motion to approve. Second.

[3:50:24] All right. Motion was made by

[3:50:26] Councilmember Willis. Second by

[3:50:29] Council Jones. All those in

[3:50:29] favor say aye.

[3:50:30] Aye.

[3:50:31] Those opposed say nay.

[3:50:33] Motion passes five zero.

[3:50:33] I

[3:50:34] ll move on to item number

[3:50:34] nine.

[3:50:35] Thank you. Mayor. Item number

[3:50:37] nine. Ordinance. Ordinance

[3:50:38] requested by the Community

[3:50:40] Development Services Department

[3:50:41] to amend the Unified

[3:50:43] Development Ordinance. Udo, to

[3:50:44] add definitions and standards

[3:50:46] for short term rentals,

[3:50:48] homestay and short term rental.

[3:50:51] Whole house lodging uses in

[3:50:53] adding these uses to section

[3:50:55] 313. Table of uses as permitted

[3:50:57] uses in the following zoning

[3:50:58] districts are a 20 residential

[3:51:01] agriculture r-1 five s

[3:51:03] residential single family r9s

[3:51:05] residential single family are

[3:51:07] six residential single family

[3:51:09] or non residential or six

[3:51:10] residential or six a

[3:51:12] residential or six mh

[3:51:16] residential mobile home th10

[3:51:18] tiny home community. MR..

[3:51:20] Medical. Residential. MRS..

[3:51:21] Medical. Residential. Single

[3:51:23] family or office. Residential

[3:51:26] cd downtown commercial and cdf

[3:51:28] downtown commercial fringe. Now

[3:51:30] call for an Assistant Director.

[3:51:31] Shanti Gooby for the

[3:51:32] presentation.

[3:51:32] I don

[3:51:33] t want to say anything,

[3:51:35] but after you read that, our

[3:51:36] whole crowd.

[3:51:36] Left.

[3:51:38] Almost our whole crowd. The the

[3:51:38] three in the back.

[3:51:39] Are here.

[3:51:39] We

[3:51:41] re here for the long run.

[3:51:43] Right?

[3:51:43] We

[3:51:44] ll try to make it as

[3:51:48] interesting as possible. Um, so

[3:51:50] again, um, short term rentals.

[3:51:52] Um, those can come on many

[3:51:54] different platforms. The most

[3:51:56] popular ones are Airbnb and

[3:51:59] Burbank, and generally you have

[3:52:01] two types of, um, short term

[3:52:03] rentals. You have what we

[3:52:03] re

[3:52:05] calling the home state, which

[3:52:07] is where you have a host on

[3:52:08] site with you, whether it be an

[3:52:11] apartment or a house of some

[3:52:13] sort. And then we have what

[3:52:13] s

[3:52:14] called, in the second

[3:52:16] definition, whole house

[3:52:16] lodging. And it

[3:52:17] s exactly what

[3:52:18] it sounds like. You get the

[3:52:21] whole dwelling to yourself. So

[3:52:21] we

[3:52:22] re just basically referring

[3:52:24] to it with the host and without

[3:52:28] a host. Uh, um, several months

[3:52:32] ago, city staff was, um, able

[3:52:34] to use some software that deals

[3:52:36] with short term rentals. Uh,

[3:52:39] this was done back in APRIL of

[3:52:41] this year, and we were able to

[3:52:43] identify some with certainty

[3:52:46] and some with not exact

[3:52:48] specificity of short term

[3:52:49] rentals that are in Greenville.

[3:52:50] So we

[3:52:51] ve shown those all with

[3:52:53] the blue dots. And then we

[3:52:55] broke those out into what

[3:52:56] zoning district they

[3:52:57] re in. And

[3:53:00] so at that time we had um,

[3:53:02] roughly 270 short term rentals

[3:53:06] in the city. So now to talk

[3:53:08] about the new standards that

[3:53:09] come with this, um, I

[3:53:10] m going

[3:53:11] to go through the homestay or

[3:53:15] with host first. Um, and one of

[3:53:16] one of the reasons why I

[3:53:16] m

[3:53:17] doing this is because a lot of

[3:53:19] these carryover to the second

[3:53:21] type of short term rental. Um,

[3:53:24] so again, with a host, um, the

[3:53:27] owner or operator does have to

[3:53:28] receive a zoning compliance

[3:53:29] permit. Um, it

[3:53:30] s a one time

[3:53:33] permit. Uh, there is no

[3:53:36] exterior advertising that

[3:53:36] s

[3:53:38] allowed. So no outdoor outside

[3:53:40] signage. The owner operator

[3:53:41] does have to supply a

[3:53:43] certificate of insurance. Uh,

[3:53:46] in the amount of $1 million in

[3:53:47] liability insurance for the

[3:53:49] property. And that has to be

[3:53:50] submitted with the permit

[3:53:54] application. Also, no special

[3:53:56] events or gatherings in excess

[3:53:58] of the registered guests and

[3:54:00] then any existing short term

[3:54:01] rentals as of tonight, if this

[3:54:04] is passed, has a year to get

[3:54:06] their permit with us. Right. So

[3:54:07] these are the existing ones.

[3:54:08] And then any new ones,

[3:54:09] obviously we

[3:54:10] ll go ahead and

[3:54:11] ideally

[3:54:12] Do their permit before they

[3:54:14] establish themselves as a short

[3:54:16] term rental. Um, we do

[3:54:17] recognize that we

[3:54:17] re going to

[3:54:19] have to do, um, a little bit of

[3:54:22] publicity to to bring awareness

[3:54:24] to them. Some people probably,

[3:54:26] um, MAY not even know that they

[3:54:27] have to do this. So that

[3:54:27] ll

[3:54:30] come if we, um, if you approve,

[3:54:32] uh, text amendment. Another

[3:54:35] thing that we added is that

[3:54:37] any, um, short term rental that

[3:54:39] receives either three citations

[3:54:42] or warnings for ordinance

[3:54:44] violations. Um, some examples

[3:54:46] would be noise, trash and

[3:54:48] debris or illegal parking. Um,

[3:54:50] within a 12 month period. MAY

[3:54:51] have their zoning compliance

[3:54:54] permit revoked. Um, again, the

[3:54:56] intent is to not be punitive,

[3:54:59] but the intent is to make sure

[3:55:02] that the Airbnb owner operator

[3:55:04] is a good neighbor. And so

[3:55:04] that

[3:55:04] s what we

[3:55:05] re really after.

[3:55:09] Um, it is subject to citations.

[3:55:09] And a little bit further, I

[3:55:10] ll

[3:55:12] tell you, um, the schedule of

[3:55:14] of the the amounts of the

[3:55:17] citations. This is for whole

[3:55:19] house. These are the same ones

[3:55:19] I

[3:55:21] ve went through. So i

[3:55:21] m going

[3:55:25] to jump ahead to whole house

[3:55:26] lodging. So whole house lodging

[3:55:29] means that the owner, the host

[3:55:30] is not on site. So we

[3:55:31] ve added

[3:55:34] two additional requirements.

[3:55:37] Um, if, uh, the person who owns

[3:55:41] or operates, um, the Airbnb

[3:55:42] does not live in Pitt County,

[3:55:43] then they

[3:55:44] re going to designate

[3:55:46] someone in Pitt County who will

[3:55:48] be a local contact. That could

[3:55:50] be a local contact or planning

[3:55:52] staff, local contact for even

[3:55:54] the police department. Um, so

[3:55:57] that that agent can accept any

[3:55:58] kind of issues or complaints

[3:56:00] and be able to respond to them.

[3:56:01] And again, this could be

[3:56:03] something as like an excessive

[3:56:05] amount of parking noise,

[3:56:07] perhaps trash and debris that

[3:56:07] s

[3:56:09] been left in the yard. But

[3:56:11] ideally that would be a local

[3:56:12] contact, easy for us to get in

[3:56:14] contact with than someone

[3:56:16] perhaps in Ohio that MAY not

[3:56:17] have an idea. Any of these

[3:56:21] things are going on again.

[3:56:22] Um.

[3:56:23] We already have the forms and

[3:56:25] everything set up to go so that

[3:56:27] if if this is approved, we

[3:56:27] ll

[3:56:29] be ready to go. So the form,

[3:56:31] um, for the agent is very

[3:56:33] short. It does lay out the

[3:56:35] responsibilities of that agent

[3:56:37] so they understand if they are

[3:56:38] going to be an agent for

[3:56:39] someone. What that means,

[3:56:40] again, that they

[3:56:40] re going to

[3:56:41] have to receive and respond to

[3:56:43] complaints.

[3:56:44] Um.

[3:56:46] This last section basically

[3:56:48] just again, not to be punitive.

[3:56:50] It does give a grace period

[3:56:53] that if you are, uh, you have

[3:56:54] an agent and that agent says,

[3:56:55] actually, I

[3:56:57] m moving to Texas.

[3:56:58] It gives you some time to

[3:57:00] appoint a new agent and get

[3:57:04] their information to us. As far

[3:57:06] as the citations, these are the

[3:57:09] same citations for any kind of

[3:57:11] zoning violation. And that is

[3:57:13] the first violation. Um, is

[3:57:17] $100 a second violation is a

[3:57:20] second violation within 365

[3:57:22] days of the first. That amount

[3:57:26] is 250, and the third, again is

[3:57:28] within 365 days of the first

[3:57:31] violation. And that amount is

[3:57:34] $500. This is the table of

[3:57:35] uses. And so what this is

[3:57:39] showing is that, um, all of the

[3:57:41] districts that allow

[3:57:43] residential, uh, we have added,

[3:57:43] you

[3:57:44] ll see the red piece. So

[3:57:45] that means it

[3:57:45] s a permitted

[3:57:47] use, does not require a special

[3:57:49] use permit. Um, this will be

[3:57:51] for both of those uses. So both

[3:57:53] uses will be allowed in the

[3:57:57] very same districts. In staff

[3:57:57] s

[3:57:59] opinion, the request is in

[3:58:00] compliance with the

[3:58:01] comprehensive plan,

[3:58:03] specifically. Chapter five

[3:58:04] Creating Complete Neighborhoods

[3:58:08] Goal 5.1 strong Existing

[3:58:09] neighborhoods Greenville will

[3:58:10] have strong established

[3:58:12] neighborhoods with the support

[3:58:13] for neighbors, with support for

[3:58:15] neighborhood organizations,

[3:58:17] high quality housing, unique

[3:58:18] character, and robust

[3:58:20] integration with the rest of

[3:58:21] the community. Um. Therefore,

[3:58:23] staff recommends approval. And

[3:58:27] at the JULY 21st, 2026 Planning

[3:58:28] and Zoning Commission, the

[3:58:30] Commission voted unanimously to

[3:58:31] recommend approval of the

[3:58:32] request, and I

[3:58:33] ll be happy to

[3:58:35] answer any questions.

[3:58:35] Right.

[3:58:36] Any questions?

[3:58:37] MISS.

[3:58:38] Uh.

[3:58:40] Shante, can you remind me of

[3:58:42] the period of time that an

[3:58:43] owner would have to replace an.

[3:58:45] Agent?

[3:58:47] We have said ten days.

[3:58:50] Ten days? Yes.

[3:58:51] And then you said it was a

[3:58:53] year. They have a year to get

[3:58:54] the permit. This is.

[3:58:56] Past for existing or

[3:58:58] preexisting ones. Yes. And

[3:58:59] again, that

[3:58:59] s probably going to

[3:59:00] take a little bit of word of

[3:59:02] mouth, um, to make people aware

[3:59:03] of that. But we

[3:59:04] ve given a

[3:59:05] grace period of a year.

[3:59:07] Okay. And then I can

[3:59:08] t remember

[3:59:10] if we, uh, finalize this, but

[3:59:12] what was the legality of this?

[3:59:13] I know we had discussed that in

[3:59:16] the workshop.

[3:59:17] The city attorney

[3:59:18] s office is

[3:59:19] of the view that this is a

[3:59:20] legally defensible, and it

[3:59:21] s,

[3:59:22] um, will be in compliance.

[3:59:23] Okay.

[3:59:24] Are there any other peer cities

[3:59:25] that are doing something

[3:59:27] similar to this?

[3:59:27] Yeah, there

[3:59:28] s several cities

[3:59:29] that have a short term

[3:59:30] ordinance, short term rental

[3:59:32] ordinances. Um, Raleigh.

[3:59:32] Asheville.

[3:59:34] So are they similar to what

[3:59:34] we

[3:59:35] re proposing?

[3:59:36] I think Raleigh was very

[3:59:37] similar.

[3:59:38] To. Okay.

[3:59:42] And there has been any case law.

[3:59:42] Nobody

[3:59:43] s tried to sue the city

[3:59:44] over it.

[3:59:45] Well, there hasn

[3:59:47] t been some

[3:59:48] legislation out of litigation

[3:59:50] out of Wilmington dealing with

[3:59:51] the rental registration

[3:59:53] challenge. But, um, we believe

[3:59:54] this is not a rental

[3:59:56] registration program. This is a

[3:59:57] regulation of short term

[3:59:58] rentals, but it

[3:59:58] s not a rental

[4:00:00] registration program. So we

[4:00:01] think this is legally

[4:00:04] defensible. And.

[4:00:06] Um. Can you go back to the

[4:00:07] citations again?

[4:00:12] Sure.

[4:00:16] And this would be, um, a notice

[4:00:19] of violation. So, uh, a parking

[4:00:20] through the police department

[4:00:22] MAY be a little different than

[4:00:24] if it makes its way to us.

[4:00:24] Let

[4:00:26] s say it is a parking

[4:00:29] issue. Um, and we would be

[4:00:32] notified as part of having the

[4:00:37] permits. 123 Main Street had a,

[4:00:40] you know, a kegger, and they

[4:00:43] had 25 cars. And we had to send

[4:00:44] the police out there and have

[4:00:46] them dispersed.

[4:00:46] Sure.

[4:00:48] And then as far as, like the

[4:00:50] complaints are concerned, um,

[4:00:52] are those complaints that are

[4:00:53] sent to directly to the city

[4:00:55] and then the city investigates

[4:00:57] to see if it

[4:00:58] s a legitimate

[4:01:00] complaint. And I guess where

[4:01:00] I

[4:01:01] m going with this is, is that

[4:01:02] each person

[4:01:05] s idea of quiet and

[4:01:07] peaceful is different in their

[4:01:09] and their type of nuisance is

[4:01:11] all always different. So people

[4:01:11] don

[4:01:12] t want to see any of it.

[4:01:13] Some of them could just be

[4:01:15] calling in, complaining just

[4:01:16] because they know what

[4:01:16] s going

[4:01:19] on inside the dwelling and know

[4:01:19] that it

[4:01:20] s something they don

[4:01:20] t

[4:01:21] want to see, but they just

[4:01:23] might be complaining. And so I

[4:01:26] guess my idea is, is I want to

[4:01:27] make sure that whoever

[4:01:28] s making

[4:01:29] the complaint is being vetted

[4:01:30] by the city, and the city can

[4:01:31] go ahead and say, well, this is

[4:01:32] a legitimate complaint. This

[4:01:32] isn

[4:01:33] t just somebody that

[4:01:33] s

[4:01:34] angry and just doesn

[4:01:34] t like

[4:01:36] that particular neighbor and

[4:01:37] their property.

[4:01:39] We deal with that a lot. Again,

[4:01:40] one person

[4:01:42] s tolerance is much

[4:01:44] higher or lower than their

[4:01:46] neighbors. Um, so along with

[4:01:48] the permit, we we have an index

[4:01:49] where we would keep track of

[4:01:52] the properties. Um, that would

[4:01:55] allow, uh, pd or even code

[4:01:56] enforcement to be able to

[4:01:58] cross-reference that. We would

[4:02:00] essentially be the the keeper

[4:02:03] of the information. Someone

[4:02:04] could still go on the city. Uh,

[4:02:06] compass. We would probably need

[4:02:08] to add that as a new issue from

[4:02:11] the dropdown box. And I would

[4:02:12] think that that would probably

[4:02:14] come through planning first.

[4:02:17] Um, if it is more of a of.

[4:02:17] A.

[4:02:19] A lot of parking, let

[4:02:20] s say.

[4:02:21] Um.

[4:02:25] The best solution would be to

[4:02:26] go through pd. Obviously it

[4:02:27] s

[4:02:30] not an emergency, but pd is 24

[4:02:31] hours. We

[4:02:34] re 8 to 5. Um, but it

[4:02:38] will basically the the

[4:02:39] different tentacles will still

[4:02:41] rest within the planning

[4:02:42] department is how it would

[4:02:43] work.

[4:02:45] So and I guess I think of the

[4:02:47] situation where you could have

[4:02:47] a neighbor that

[4:02:48] s just not

[4:02:49] happy. Right. And they find out

[4:02:51] that within a certain amount of

[4:02:53] complaints they could, you

[4:02:57] know, get the, the, the

[4:02:58] neighboring property that

[4:02:58] they

[4:03:00] re not happy with multiple

[4:03:01] citations and potentially get

[4:03:03] them into some legal issues. So

[4:03:05] I guess like my thought is, is

[4:03:06] if the police departments

[4:03:08] called out to, let

[4:03:09] s say, one

[4:03:12] of the short term rentals and

[4:03:13] they just say it was because of

[4:03:14] loud noise, they go out there

[4:03:15] and say it

[4:03:15] s it

[4:03:16] s nothing.

[4:03:18] Well, they call them again. It

[4:03:18] happens again. Let

[4:03:19] s say they

[4:03:20] come out there 4 or 5 times,

[4:03:22] and then the neighbor says, I

[4:03:23] m

[4:03:24] doing all these hypothetical

[4:03:26] things. Um, but this is

[4:03:29] probably a realistic situation.

[4:03:30] Um, they go out there and they

[4:03:31] say, well, they call the

[4:03:33] planning department. Say, well,

[4:03:34] the police have been out there

[4:03:35] five times. You know, I don

[4:03:35] t

[4:03:36] understand why we

[4:03:36] re not doing

[4:03:38] anything with it. How is that

[4:03:40] going to be handled? I guess as

[4:03:43] far as the complaint, because

[4:03:44] it

[4:03:45] s going to be law that the

[4:03:46] police were out there five

[4:03:49] times, but how legitimate were

[4:03:50] those five phone calls as far

[4:03:52] as an actual nuisance, right?

[4:03:53] Well, we would get the

[4:03:55] disposition right. So we would

[4:03:58] know if it was founded, if they

[4:04:00] showed up and it was quiet and

[4:04:01] everyone were being good

[4:04:03] listeners. So we as the

[4:04:04] planning department would have

[4:04:07] some idea. Yes. You have five

[4:04:09] calls for service, but actually

[4:04:10] only one time was there

[4:04:13] actually in an issue. So it

[4:04:18] will put on staff. Um, as

[4:04:21] sometimes there are of

[4:04:24] threading the needle of taking

[4:04:26] those different complaints,

[4:04:28] figuring out which really do

[4:04:30] hit a mark and which of those

[4:04:32] or maybe someone losing

[4:04:33] patience and they

[4:04:33] re calling

[4:04:38] every 15 minutes. Um, so that

[4:04:40] happens in other things as well

[4:04:41] when we get complaints. And

[4:04:42] what do you know, it

[4:04:42] s already

[4:04:44] disappeared by the time that we

[4:04:47] get there. But what will happen

[4:04:49] or what will at least give us

[4:04:53] some way of communicating

[4:04:55] directly is that either we

[4:04:55] ll

[4:04:57] have the person on the permit,

[4:04:58] or we will have a local

[4:05:00] contact, and if that local

[4:05:01] contact says, listen, this is

[4:05:02] my sister

[4:05:04] s place, great. Can

[4:05:06] you tell us who your sister is?

[4:05:08] And that is a way that staff

[4:05:09] can directly communicate with

[4:05:11] someone that we MAY not be able

[4:05:13] to reach. Um, they MAY have a

[4:05:16] run of bad guests, you know,

[4:05:18] and that happens as well. Um,

[4:05:20] but the other thing is that at

[4:05:23] least Verbo and Airbnb have a

[4:05:25] system themselves for if you

[4:05:27] live beside the property and

[4:05:29] you have issues, you can log

[4:05:31] those complaints with Airbnb

[4:05:33] and Verbo as well. Okay, so

[4:05:33] there

[4:05:35] s a couple of things. Is

[4:05:39] is a completely fail safe note.

[4:05:41] And there is going to take, um,

[4:05:45] some, some discretion of how we

[4:05:47] deal with issues that come up.

[4:05:47] Okay.

[4:05:49] Um, and then the other question

[4:05:52] I have to is as far as somebody

[4:05:55] that is in deciding about doing

[4:05:56] like a short term rental, let

[4:05:58] it be one of the two scenarios.

[4:06:01] What is there a penalty if they

[4:06:03] do not file? And I guess my

[4:06:04] thought process is you

[4:06:04] re going

[4:06:06] to have a lot of people that

[4:06:07] have been have not been used to

[4:06:08] it. There

[4:06:10] s never been a filing

[4:06:12] period. What type of penalty

[4:06:14] would be if somebody operating

[4:06:17] one and then staff is notified

[4:06:18] that so-and-so and my

[4:06:20] neighborhood is has an Airbnb

[4:06:21] and you say, well, it

[4:06:21] s not

[4:06:21] logged, we don

[4:06:22] t have them

[4:06:23] there. You send them a letter.

[4:06:24] Is there a penalty or is it

[4:06:26] just a requirement that within

[4:06:27] a certain period of time, they

[4:06:28] need to go ahead and file?

[4:06:29] Yeah. The first letter is

[4:06:31] always this has been brought to

[4:06:33] our attention. Again, we could

[4:06:35] be wrong. You MAY not be an

[4:06:38] Airbnb, but it starts with a

[4:06:39] letter. If you have any

[4:06:41] questions, please contact us.

[4:06:44] Um, and the other. And in these

[4:06:45] cases, we can direct them back

[4:06:47] to the planning site because

[4:06:48] the fillable forms will be

[4:06:49] there and they can go, oh, I

[4:06:50] didn

[4:06:51] t know I was supposed to

[4:06:52] do that. Click, click, click.

[4:06:53] And they send us what they

[4:06:56] need. Um, generally we give

[4:06:59] folks about ten days to respond.

[4:07:00] If we don

[4:07:00] t hear anything,

[4:07:00] we

[4:07:06] ll do a second. And of. We

[4:07:08] can do citations, which is what

[4:07:10] is in front of you. We can do

[4:07:12] that. Schedule of citations.

[4:07:13] Um, but obviously we want to

[4:07:14] make very sure that we are

[4:07:15] actually trying to track a

[4:07:17] short term rental. And it

[4:07:17] s not

[4:07:19] something else. But the very

[4:07:22] first thing would be a nice,

[4:07:24] firm letter. We believe you

[4:07:26] might be operating short term

[4:07:27] rental, and we would need you

[4:07:30] to apply for the permit.

[4:07:32] Final question. I see we got

[4:07:33] first, second and third. What

[4:07:33] s

[4:07:36] the fourth?

[4:07:38] There is, of course, that

[4:07:39] s

[4:07:39] where I

[4:07:40] m going to call MR.

[4:07:41] McGirt and say, MISTER McGirt,

[4:07:43] we do not have a good listener.

[4:07:44] What would we like?

[4:07:44] That

[4:07:45] s that

[4:07:45] s what I

[4:07:45] m going to

[4:07:47] say. And so then I then that

[4:07:48] turns my attention to is, I

[4:07:51] guess, probably revocation

[4:07:55] maybe of a permit. And I guess

[4:07:56] from a legal standpoint, how

[4:07:59] does the city defend removing

[4:07:59] somebody

[4:08:00] s legal permit to be

[4:08:02] able to operate a short term

[4:08:06] rental.? Right. As a property

[4:08:06] owner?

[4:08:08] We could bring a civil action

[4:08:09] to to collect the penalties and

[4:08:11] also bring an injunction action

[4:08:15] to revoke the permit. And, um,

[4:08:15] they will have to cease

[4:08:16] operating if we had a court

[4:08:17] order.

[4:08:20] So but I guess from a legal

[4:08:22] standpoint, how do we where do

[4:08:24] we stand if somebody says,

[4:08:24] well, you

[4:08:25] re taking away my

[4:08:27] property rights by allowing me

[4:08:27] to be able to operate a

[4:08:29] business out of the property

[4:08:32] that I own. Do do we have any

[4:08:34] case law that says that we have

[4:08:35] the right to be able to do

[4:08:37] something like that, where we

[4:08:38] can prevent somebody from

[4:08:40] actually having a rental?

[4:08:41] Well, the case law says that

[4:08:43] cities that have the authority

[4:08:45] to zone to zone buildings and

[4:08:47] land, um, the short term rental

[4:08:48] case that I was talking about

[4:08:49] out of Wilmington, it said that

[4:08:50] they had a Wilmington

[4:08:51] s program

[4:08:52] was illegal because it was a

[4:08:53] rental registration program.

[4:08:54] But the court said that the

[4:08:57] cities could still zone use

[4:08:58] zoning to regulate short term

[4:09:00] rentals. And we drafted this

[4:09:02] ordinance in light of that case

[4:09:04] so we could bring a civil

[4:09:06] action to to revoke the permit

[4:09:07] and cease them from operating.

[4:09:08] So so essentially, there

[4:09:09] s

[4:09:10] nothing I guess it would just

[4:09:12] be if somebody decided to just

[4:09:13] kind of like they could sue for

[4:09:15] any other reason that they

[4:09:16] would establish a case law.

[4:09:16] For it.

[4:09:18] They could try to sue and say,

[4:09:18] we

[4:09:18] re.

[4:09:19] Taking away their.

[4:09:20] Property rights.

[4:09:21] The case law is clear. Cities

[4:09:23] have the authority to his own

[4:09:25] property and to, um, enact

[4:09:27] short term rental zoning

[4:09:28] ordinances as well. You have to

[4:09:29] make sure that it doesn

[4:09:29] t. It

[4:09:29] s

[4:09:31] not a rental registration

[4:09:31] program or it

[4:09:32] s not a down

[4:09:33] zone, but the city has

[4:09:36] authority to to zone. So.

[4:09:39] We can zone. We also can put

[4:09:40] reasonable time, place and

[4:09:42] circumstances restrictions.

[4:09:43] We

[4:09:44] re not taking away their

[4:09:45] property, right. We

[4:09:45] re

[4:09:46] regulating it. And if they

[4:09:46] don

[4:09:47] t comply that

[4:09:48] s on them.

[4:09:48] Right. So we

[4:09:50] re not taking away

[4:09:51] if they comply. Nothing

[4:09:51] s

[4:09:53] taken. I mean they gotta do is

[4:09:54] comply with the and this is

[4:09:56] very reasonable. Probably it

[4:09:56] s

[4:09:57] a lot less than what I would

[4:09:58] like to say, but it

[4:09:58] s a

[4:09:59] starting point.

[4:09:59] Yeah.

[4:10:00] And I

[4:10:00] m not arguing that.

[4:10:01] I just don

[4:10:01] t understand. I

[4:10:01] m

[4:10:02] just saying I.

[4:10:03] Just want to see from the

[4:10:05] situation. If we get into that,

[4:10:05] because you

[4:10:06] ve got a lot of

[4:10:07] people that are operating right

[4:10:07] now, and I

[4:10:07] m sure they

[4:10:08] re not

[4:10:08] going to be real happy about

[4:10:11] the changes and having to to

[4:10:13] register and go through the

[4:10:15] process. And having this. My

[4:10:16] thought is you probably have

[4:10:17] some angry people, and I want

[4:10:18] to make sure it

[4:10:18] s defensible

[4:10:20] from a city standpoint.

[4:10:20] And again, it

[4:10:20] s not a

[4:10:21] registration. It

[4:10:21] s requiring

[4:10:22] them to get a zoning permit.

[4:10:23] And we

[4:10:24] re giving them one year.

[4:10:26] Those existing short term

[4:10:28] rentals are giving, given one

[4:10:30] year to obtain the permit.

[4:10:30] Okay.

[4:10:32] It would be the same thing as a

[4:10:33] homeowner who

[4:10:33] s subject to

[4:10:34] nuisance. We have a nuisance

[4:10:35] ordinance in the city of

[4:10:37] Greenville that has homeowners

[4:10:38] or people who live in a home.

[4:10:38] We

[4:10:39] re all subject to, and so

[4:10:40] it

[4:10:40] s no different. We

[4:10:41] re just

[4:10:41] putting in here like you

[4:10:41] re

[4:10:43] subject to these types of

[4:10:45] violations. If you don

[4:10:45] t run

[4:10:48] your business appropriately. I

[4:10:48] don

[4:10:50] t see any problem with it

[4:10:50] from a standpoint, because I

[4:10:52] look into this pretty heavily.

[4:10:53] I mean, I think it

[4:10:53] s a good

[4:10:54] starting point, and maybe we

[4:10:55] can even look further down the

[4:10:56] road, but I don

[4:10:56] t see any legal

[4:10:58] problems with it in terms of

[4:10:58] what we

[4:10:58] ve done, because it

[4:10:59] s

[4:11:00] so minor and it puts the onus

[4:11:01] on them that you

[4:11:02] re only paying

[4:11:03] any fees or anything if you

[4:11:06] violate what are typically

[4:11:07] reasonable standards. It

[4:11:07] s a

[4:11:09] nuisance and and use of drugs

[4:11:11] or controlled substances or

[4:11:13] noise ordinances and parking

[4:11:15] violations that we regulated

[4:11:17] for centuries in this city are

[4:11:21] not centuries, but a long time.

[4:11:21] Thank you, MR. Attorney.

[4:11:22] Thank you, MR. Attorney. You

[4:11:23] re

[4:11:23] welcome.

[4:11:25] I had the same questions, but

[4:11:26] it was from the other end of

[4:11:29] the spectrum that if somebody

[4:11:31] consistently violates, you

[4:11:32] know, what would happen

[4:11:33] because, you know, it affects

[4:11:35] citizens quality of life. So

[4:11:38] that was where my concern was,

[4:11:39] is what would happen at that

[4:11:40] point. So I appreciate you

[4:11:42] answering that question.

[4:11:43] All right.

[4:11:45] And then, uh, did you say that

[4:11:45] we don

[4:11:46] t know the exact

[4:11:48] location of all short term

[4:11:49] rentals?

[4:11:52] Yeah. The website that we used

[4:11:54] is more of a more of a website

[4:11:57] for an investor, but we were

[4:11:59] able to download that

[4:12:00] information. Some of the

[4:12:01] things, some of the properties

[4:12:02] we were able to identify,

[4:12:04] because people actually put the

[4:12:05] picture of the house on it. So

[4:12:06] we

[4:12:06] re like, oh, that

[4:12:07] s the one.

[4:12:09] Some, for whatever reason,

[4:12:09] don

[4:12:10] t put the picture out of

[4:12:12] the house. So the pen just sort

[4:12:14] of sits in the middle of the

[4:12:17] street. So we have a pen, we

[4:12:18] know about where it is so we

[4:12:20] can put it together. But but

[4:12:22] some of them are a little

[4:12:23] fuzzier. Um, so we had to do

[4:12:25] some sleuthing of our own to

[4:12:27] try to, uh, take out some of

[4:12:29] the static.

[4:12:29] So let

[4:12:31] s say potentially for

[4:12:32] one of the properties that we

[4:12:32] don

[4:12:33] t know the exact location

[4:12:36] of when the 365 day mark, uh,

[4:12:38] comes across, how are we going

[4:12:40] to ensure that all short term

[4:12:41] rentals are in compliance if we

[4:12:42] don

[4:12:43] t know the exact locations?

[4:12:44] Or is it going to be like an

[4:12:47] honor system for the operators?

[4:12:48] Somewhat of an honor system,

[4:12:51] but also we as a staff will

[4:12:52] still have to keep track

[4:12:54] because you come you you could

[4:12:56] have some people who fall out

[4:12:58] of the market who decide they

[4:12:58] don

[4:12:59] t want to do it anymore,

[4:13:02] but, you know, we did this

[4:13:04] about a year or so ago. I think

[4:13:07] we added maybe 80 more units

[4:13:10] since that time. So it will

[4:13:11] constantly be where staff will

[4:13:14] have to go in harvest as do as

[4:13:16] best as we can. And some of

[4:13:18] them MAY be, um, from phone

[4:13:21] calls and someone reporting.

[4:13:21] It

[4:13:25] s an Airbnb. Okay, so it is

[4:13:27] not a perfect science. Uh,

[4:13:29] Airbnb again, doesn

[4:13:29] t require

[4:13:31] you to put the picture of the

[4:13:32] property because that is a

[4:13:34] security issue. So it will be a

[4:13:37] little sleuthing on our side as

[4:13:37] well.

[4:13:39] So some properties could

[4:13:40] potentially slip through the

[4:13:40] cracks, which is.

[4:13:41] That.

[4:13:48] Well, yes. However, um, if they

[4:13:49] are good listeners, we MAY not

[4:13:50] know that they

[4:13:51] re there. And

[4:13:51] that

[4:13:54] s the intention is to be a

[4:13:55] good neighbor.

[4:13:58] And then one more question. Do

[4:14:00] they how often does the permit

[4:14:01] need to be renewed? Is it every

[4:14:03] year. One time, just one time?

[4:14:05] Did we say that I can

[4:14:05] t

[4:14:06] remember. Did we say the the

[4:14:08] amount for the permit? Is there

[4:14:09] amount?

[4:14:10] Uh.

[4:14:10] We have not. It

[4:14:11] s not in the

[4:14:13] manual of fees. So.

[4:14:18] That was about. Okay.

[4:14:20] I mean is it something that we

[4:14:22] should have, you know, you have

[4:14:23] to renew every year so we can

[4:14:24] keep better track of which ones

[4:14:26] are still operating and which

[4:14:28] ones are new.

[4:14:30] That would be something for the

[4:14:32] whole council to to think

[4:14:34] about. We have just put it as

[4:14:36] a, as a one time permit.

[4:14:37] I think, I think one of our

[4:14:37] attorneys over here has

[4:14:38] something to say. MISTER,

[4:14:40] MISTER Birch.

[4:14:41] What up, MISTER Birch?

[4:14:42] The answer to.

[4:14:44] That would be no. Um, because

[4:14:45] that would be. Tantamount to

[4:14:46] the registration.

[4:14:47] Yeah.

[4:14:49] And in order to be compliant

[4:14:50] with state law, we would need

[4:14:52] to avoid that. And the way to

[4:14:55] do that is, at one time, um,

[4:14:58] uh, registration or one.

[4:14:58] But using that.

[4:14:59] Word, don

[4:15:01] t say that. Yeah.

[4:15:01] Perfect.

[4:15:02] Thank you.

[4:15:04] Yeah. I appreciate how tactful

[4:15:07] MISS Gooby is. The reality of

[4:15:08] it is, is our our code of

[4:15:09] ordinances is about six inches

[4:15:11] thick. And we have individuals

[4:15:12] that are violating those

[4:15:13] ordinances every single day.

[4:15:15] And if you have bad neighbors

[4:15:17] out there, uh, our experience

[4:15:18] has been we

[4:15:18] re going to know

[4:15:20] about it.

[4:15:21] You find out sooner or later.

[4:15:24] Yes. All right. If no other

[4:15:26] questions, public hearing is

[4:15:28] now open. Those who speak on

[4:15:29] behalf of applicant MAY come

[4:15:30] forward. Please state your name

[4:15:31] for the record, first person

[4:15:32] has ten minutes. All others

[4:15:44] have three minutes.

[4:15:45] Hello?

[4:15:46] Hello.

[4:15:48] Uh. Good evening Council. I am

[4:15:50] Venus Diamond. I have been a

[4:15:52] resident of Greenville for two

[4:15:53] and a half years. Resident of

[4:15:55] North Carolina for eight years.

[4:15:57] Um, I would like to show my

[4:15:58] appreciation for this

[4:16:00] ordinance. I think this is a

[4:16:01] very good step, and I would

[4:16:04] like to see. I loved your

[4:16:05] comment about wanting to see

[4:16:07] more pushes. Um, I would love

[4:16:08] to see more pushes, uh, and

[4:16:10] more restrictions on Airbnbs

[4:16:12] and other short term leases. I

[4:16:14] think as a whole, this is going

[4:16:15] to be very good for the

[4:16:17] community, especially given a

[4:16:18] time where the housing market

[4:16:20] is inflating way more than it

[4:16:22] should be. And at the same

[4:16:24] time, uh, I think this would

[4:16:26] potentially bring down a lot

[4:16:28] of, you know, the threshold for

[4:16:29] people to be able to rent or,

[4:16:31] you know, mortgage in the city.

[4:16:32] Um, I

[4:16:35] m sorry. Um, this would

[4:16:37] also bring more business to our

[4:16:39] local hotel industry, which

[4:16:40] would be very nice for us to

[4:16:42] have. Um, though I would like

[4:16:44] to see more pushes, uh, notably

[4:16:46] in a lot of the zoning, such as

[4:16:49] r6, which does include a lot of

[4:16:51] apartments. And I feel like if

[4:16:53] that is included, it does run

[4:16:55] the risk of somebody

[4:16:57] potentially using an Airbnb to

[4:16:59] try to undercut our hotels. And

[4:17:00] I know there are a lot of

[4:17:03] people, particularly people in

[4:17:05] Greenville Power, who can

[4:17:07] utilize this if they. So please

[4:17:07] not. I

[4:17:09] m saying anybody will,

[4:17:11] but it is a possibility that

[4:17:14] could be worrying. But as a

[4:17:16] whole, I like this ordinance.

[4:17:18] This, uh, feels like it will be

[4:17:20] good, uh, for the community.

[4:17:24] Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[4:17:27] Anyone else would like to speak

[4:17:28] on behalf of the applicant MAY

[4:17:29] come forward. Please state your

[4:17:31] name for the record. You have

[4:17:42] three minutes. See none. Those

[4:17:43] in opposition to the applicant

[4:17:43] MAY come forward. Please state

[4:17:44] your name for the record. First

[4:17:45] person has ten minutes. All

[4:17:58] others have three minutes. See,

[4:17:59] now the public hearing is now

[4:18:00] closed. And for board

[4:18:02] discussion or motion. Motion to

[4:18:05] approve. Second motion was made

[4:18:07] by Council member Hardy. Second

[4:18:10] by Mayor Pro Tem Forman. Any

[4:18:13] other discussion? All those in

[4:18:15] favor say aye. Aye. Those

[4:18:16] opposed say nay.

[4:18:18] Motion passes five zero.

[4:18:20] Move on to item number ten. Our

[4:18:21] final public hearing.

[4:18:22] Thank you. Mayor. Item number

[4:18:23] ten. Ordinance requested by the

[4:18:25] Community and Development

[4:18:27] Services Department to clarify

[4:18:27] the required number of

[4:18:29] professional security personnel

[4:18:31] and alcohol establishments.

[4:18:35] Bah. Bar 2022. Microbrewery and

[4:18:36] micro distillery that provide

[4:18:39] amplified entertainment. After

[4:18:41] 11 P.M. Again, call forward or

[4:18:42] Assistant Director Shanti Gubbi

[4:18:47] for the presentation.

[4:18:49] Hopefully this is very short.

[4:18:52] Uh, this is just an item to

[4:18:52] clarify, we

[4:18:53] ve kind of talked

[4:18:56] about this a little bit. Um,

[4:18:57] this first deals with what

[4:18:59] staff considers alcohol

[4:19:02] establishments. Um, we have or

[4:19:03] excuse me, we have four

[4:19:04] different uses in the city that

[4:19:06] we, um, sort of categorize

[4:19:09] under that umbrella. Um, a bar

[4:19:12] bar, 2022 microbrewery, micro

[4:19:14] distillery, um, primary

[4:19:15] activity, obviously cell

[4:19:18] consumption of alcohol on site.

[4:19:19] All of these establishments

[4:19:21] have the ability to have a

[4:19:22] mixed beverage permit a little

[4:19:23] different than just wine and

[4:19:26] beer. Um, in MAY of this year,

[4:19:28] city staff brought a text

[4:19:30] amendment to clarify the number

[4:19:33] of, um, professional security

[4:19:35] personnel that are required at

[4:19:37] alcohol establishments with,

[4:19:39] uh, amplified entertainment

[4:19:41] after 11 P.M., so it only

[4:19:44] counts after 11 P.M.. Um, at

[4:19:45] that meeting, there was some

[4:19:47] discussion that requiring

[4:19:49] security personnel MAY be

[4:19:51] burdensome, um, to small

[4:19:53] businesses. After there was

[4:19:54] some discussion staffs bringing

[4:19:56] this back, um, with the text

[4:19:59] amendment and it same version

[4:20:01] as far as amplified

[4:20:03] entertainment or udo says

[4:20:05] amplified entertainment shall

[4:20:07] shall mean any type of music or

[4:20:09] other entertainment delivered

[4:20:11] through and by an electronic

[4:20:12] system. So that could be music.

[4:20:15] It could be bingo. So the

[4:20:18] proposed language again, is

[4:20:19] based on the occupancy of the

[4:20:20] building. So it

[4:20:21] s not based on

[4:20:22] the number of people that are

[4:20:24] there at that night. And so

[4:20:25] what this says is if you have

[4:20:29] an occupancy between 1 and 200,

[4:20:31] you will have two security

[4:20:32] personnel required to be on

[4:20:35] site. And then for every 100

[4:20:37] people, essentially you add one

[4:20:39] more person. So 2 to 300 would

[4:20:42] be three. Um, and then it goes

[4:20:46] a bit further to say, um, again

[4:20:48] after 11 P.M., um shall employ

[4:20:50] no less than two security

[4:20:51] guards in order for one

[4:20:53] security guard to be inside,

[4:20:54] and then one security guard to

[4:20:57] be able to patrol private

[4:20:58] parking lot. So if they

[4:20:58] re

[4:20:59] downtown and they don

[4:20:59] t

[4:21:01] actually have a parking lot,

[4:21:02] then both of the security

[4:21:05] personnel can be inside. Um,

[4:21:06] and then staff

[4:21:07] s opinion this

[4:21:09] request is in compliance with

[4:21:11] the comprehensive plan. Uh,

[4:21:13] chapter four, Growing the

[4:21:15] Economic hub, which is goal

[4:21:18] 4.3, modernize and Diversify

[4:21:20] the local economy. Support the

[4:21:21] growth of a variety of

[4:21:22] employment opportunities and

[4:21:24] businesses that diversify

[4:21:24] Greenville

[4:21:26] s economy. Provide

[4:21:27] workers with a range of skill

[4:21:29] sets and training, and

[4:21:30] encourage business growth

[4:21:32] within the incorporated areas

[4:21:33] and diversify Greenville

[4:21:34] s tax

[4:21:35] base. And then further, we also

[4:21:37] have a second one in here. This

[4:21:39] is from chapter one. And this

[4:21:40] is growing the economic hub.

[4:21:44] 1.4 a vibrant uptown support

[4:21:46] and control uptown nightlife.

[4:21:46] Uptown is Greenville

[4:21:47] s vibrant

[4:21:49] and walkable nightlife district

[4:21:51] that supports a variety of high

[4:21:52] quality, responsible drinking

[4:21:54] and restaurant establishments.

[4:21:55] A thriving nightlife that can

[4:21:57] attract and retain young

[4:21:58] professionals that, in turn,

[4:22:00] attract high quality employers.

[4:22:02] This does not mean nightlife

[4:22:03] activities need to be allowed

[4:22:04] to run out of control.

[4:22:06] Appropriate standards for these

[4:22:07] businesses should be enforced

[4:22:10] so that uptown can be enjoyed

[4:22:12] safely and responsible.

[4:22:13] Therefore, staff recommends

[4:22:15] approval of the proposed

[4:22:16] amendment. This one

[4:22:17] s a little

[4:22:19] different. Uh, at the JULY

[4:22:21] 21st, 2026 Planning and Zoning

[4:22:23] Commission, um, they voted

[4:22:26] unanimously with a motion. Um,

[4:22:27] but the motion had a little

[4:22:30] tweak to it. So they, uh, did

[4:22:32] recommend approval, but they

[4:22:33] went further and said while the

[4:22:35] commission, um, did recommend

[4:22:37] approval of the amendment,

[4:22:38] there was language included in

[4:22:40] the motion that there should be

[4:22:42] consideration given to the

[4:22:43] economic impact on small

[4:22:45] businesses to consider the use

[4:22:47] of bouncers as a substitute for

[4:22:49] professional security personnel.

[4:22:51] And with that, I

[4:22:52] ll be glad to

[4:22:53] answer any questions.

[4:22:54] Any questions?

[4:22:56] One question on your proposed

[4:23:01] language. If you go back to it.

[4:23:03] There is says 1200. You really

[4:23:05] mean 1 to 200, don

[4:23:05] t you

[4:23:06] establish.

[4:23:06] Oh, I

[4:23:06] m sorry, there

[4:23:07] s a

[4:23:07] hyphen.

[4:23:07] I

[4:23:08] m sorry. Yeah.

[4:23:09] Okay. Just that and that

[4:23:12] s it.

[4:23:16] And what? Why? Or, staff

[4:23:18] bringing back the same version

[4:23:19] of the text.

[4:23:22] That.

[4:23:24] When I brought it to you in

[4:23:27] MAY, um, there was some

[4:23:28] discussion. I don

[4:23:28] t want to

[4:23:30] call names, but there was some

[4:23:33] discussion that perhaps, um,

[4:23:35] this was expensive and that it

[4:23:37] could be overly burdensome, uh,

[4:23:39] to some of the establishments.

[4:23:41] We had a council work session.

[4:23:42] I don

[4:23:43] t know if you were at

[4:23:45] that one. And so the decision

[4:23:47] was to go with the professional

[4:23:49] security as opposed to the

[4:23:51] bouncers, because security,

[4:23:52] professional security personnel

[4:23:54] would include off duty cops or

[4:23:57] actual professional, um,

[4:23:59] security personnel, as opposed

[4:24:02] to bouncers have less training

[4:24:07] and bouncers. Purview. If you

[4:24:09] will stop at the door of the

[4:24:10] establishment so they can

[4:24:11] t go

[4:24:12] any further. So you

[4:24:12] re going to

[4:24:18] get, um, a person with more

[4:24:24] training and the ability to.

[4:24:26] Provide service outside of the

[4:24:28] establishment.

[4:24:31] And then are the just to make

[4:24:31] sure that I

[4:24:32] m clear, are the

[4:24:35] current, um, bars whatever you

[4:24:36] want to call grandfathered into

[4:24:37] this is.

[4:24:39] Yes. This does not affect any

[4:24:41] pre-existing.

[4:24:43] So it would include any

[4:24:44] business that opens up with a

[4:24:46] special use permit under for

[4:24:48] 2022. Correct.

[4:24:51] Microbrewery. Micro distillery

[4:24:56] bar 2022. Yes. Any of the four?

[4:24:58] Me personally, I still have the

[4:24:59] same opinion as, uh,

[4:25:01] Councilmember Scully when this

[4:25:02] was last brought up. I do think

[4:25:04] that this will be burdensome to

[4:25:05] some small businesses. And I

[4:25:08] also think that it will, uh,

[4:25:09] keep some college students out

[4:25:11] of, uh, some jobs because those

[4:25:12] are who mainly staff and

[4:25:14] balance, uh, the, the clubs and

[4:25:16] the nightlife down here. Um, so

[4:25:18] I just want to make that be

[4:25:20] done. For the record.

[4:25:22] All right. Any other comments?

[4:25:23] Questions?

[4:25:26] Uh, I have one in, uh, I don

[4:25:26] t

[4:25:27] even drink. And I

[4:25:28] m swimming in

[4:25:30] alcohol after all this

[4:25:34] conversation. Um, about this,

[4:25:37] but, um, has there been any

[4:25:41] conversation, uh, with, uh,

[4:25:43] businesses or bar owners

[4:25:47] outside of downtown?

[4:25:50] No, because the ones that we

[4:25:52] have now are under the old the

[4:25:54] old rules. So, uh, so the

[4:25:58] answer is, is no. But we also

[4:25:58] don

[4:26:00] t have very many of them

[4:26:03] either. The microbreweries and

[4:26:04] the micro distilleries. We have

[4:26:07] are really downtown. Um, and,

[4:26:07] and they

[4:26:08] re not going to be

[4:26:11] affected because they already

[4:26:13] have a special use permit. So

[4:26:15] they were ahead of this. So my

[4:26:18] point is, is it is, um, it

[4:26:18] s

[4:26:20] only going to affect those that

[4:26:22] would walk in the door and we

[4:26:23] would say, oh, by the way, this

[4:26:29] is a new requirement. Mm.

[4:26:31] Can I ask our deputy chief a

[4:26:33] question about this. Does the

[4:26:34] police department feel that

[4:26:36] this is something that is

[4:26:36] necessary? Y

[4:26:40] all want to see?

[4:26:41] I

[4:26:42] m sorry to put you on.

[4:26:44] No pressure.

[4:26:46] Well, um.

[4:26:48] Have you had have you all had

[4:26:49] problems.

[4:26:50] With the officers about that?

[4:26:52] They actually work the area.

[4:26:54] Um, I haven

[4:26:55] t got a lot of

[4:26:57] feedback from that. Yes, I, I,

[4:26:58] i would have to believe that.

[4:27:00] Get some feedback from the

[4:27:01] officers that are actually on

[4:27:03] the street working.

[4:27:05] Thank you.

[4:27:05] That

[4:27:07] s a good politician answer

[4:27:11] right there. I like that. All

[4:27:13] right. Any other questions

[4:27:17] comments. Thank you very much.

[4:27:18] Public hearing is now open.

[4:27:19] Those speak on behalf of the

[4:27:20] outcome MAY come forward.

[4:27:20] Please state your name. For the

[4:27:22] record. The first person has

[4:27:23] ten minutes. All others have

[4:27:37] three minutes. None of those in

[4:27:38] opposition to the applicant MAY

[4:27:39] come forward. Please state your

[4:27:40] name. For the record. The first

[4:27:41] person has ten minutes. All

[4:27:56] others have three minutes. The

[4:27:57] public hearing is now closed.

[4:27:59] Open for a board discussion or

[4:28:01] a motion.

[4:28:03] So if one makes a motion and I

[4:28:03] don

[4:28:05] t have a motion, but if one

[4:28:08] makes a motion, would that be

[4:28:11] with the suggestion of.

[4:28:13] You could make whatever motion

[4:28:13] you want.

[4:28:14] To make. I don

[4:28:14] t want.

[4:28:15] To make.

[4:28:15] A motion.

[4:28:17] You can take their motion. You

[4:28:18] can take the staff

[4:28:18] s motion.

[4:28:26] You can make up a motion.

[4:28:28] Okay.

[4:28:28] I don

[4:28:28] t have.

[4:28:29] A motion.

[4:28:30] Did I answer your question?

[4:28:32] Did.

[4:28:34] Mayor, if I MAY. This to me is

[4:28:37] really interesting. Um, because

[4:28:38] I feel like at the core of it,

[4:28:40] um, our conversations have been

[4:28:42] centered around safety. Um, and

[4:28:44] so looking at the request of

[4:28:47] planning and zoning to opt to

[4:28:50] use bouncers, but if they have

[4:28:51] to stop at the door, then I

[4:28:52] don

[4:28:53] t know that that achieves

[4:28:54] the safety that we were looking

[4:28:56] for, for inside the

[4:28:57] establishment and then out, but

[4:29:03] then also, um, for the

[4:29:04] establishments that are already

[4:29:05] in business, this doesn

[4:29:05] t

[4:29:06] affect them. It

[4:29:08] s not

[4:29:10] retroactive. So this is going

[4:29:11] forward. So you don

[4:29:12] t want to

[4:29:13] implement something that

[4:29:14] s cost

[4:29:15] prohibitive to a new business.

[4:29:15] That

[4:29:18] s, um, that

[4:29:18] s starting

[4:29:20] their business. Uh, it

[4:29:20] s it

[4:29:20] s

[4:29:23] an interesting proposition. I

[4:29:26] think, um.

[4:29:31] Do you have a motion?

[4:29:33] Oh.

[4:29:33] You know, I don

[4:29:34] t mind making a

[4:29:39] motion. Um, gosh.

[4:29:40] And, I mean, I don

[4:29:41] t think this

[4:29:43] is at least from my point of

[4:29:43] view. I

[4:29:45] m not, you know,

[4:29:47] against safety. Um, around

[4:29:48] these establishments, but I

[4:29:49] just I just really think it

[4:29:51] would be cost prohibitive and

[4:29:52] kind of restrict what these

[4:29:54] businesses could do on a night

[4:29:56] to night basis. Um, they really

[4:29:58] have to be mindful of, you

[4:29:58] know, what day is they decide

[4:30:02] to provide amplified music past

[4:30:07] 11:00. Um, yeah. That

[4:30:07] s my only

[4:30:08] concern.

[4:30:08] I

[4:30:10] ll make a motion to approve

[4:30:12] the text as tendered. And the

[4:30:13] reason why is because I

[4:30:13] ve

[4:30:15] dealt with downtown for 40

[4:30:17] years as a criminal lawyer, and

[4:30:17] I

[4:30:20] ve seen the carnage caused by

[4:30:21] people in the bars who

[4:30:22] ve

[4:30:23] consumed way too much. They

[4:30:24] weren

[4:30:25] t just drinking, they

[4:30:27] were intoxicated and served by

[4:30:28] bars. And I think if you talk

[4:30:29] to the officers on the streets,

[4:30:31] they will tell you that

[4:30:32] oftentimes the people come out

[4:30:33] of the bars are not just

[4:30:34] drinking, they are completely

[4:30:36] intoxicated and just drunk. And

[4:30:40] today, uh, had to read, uh,

[4:30:42] because of a case of a very

[4:30:44] serious injury that occurred in

[4:30:46] a bar. And no bouncers were

[4:30:49] around, and they MAY have

[4:30:50] probably prevented it had they

[4:30:52] been. And when you use the word

[4:30:53] bouncer, what does that really

[4:30:55] mean? It means you go hire a

[4:30:56] college kid to come in and

[4:30:57] provide security, who

[4:31:00] oftentimes is a workout

[4:31:01] fanatic, who wants to go bully

[4:31:03] people and use that power.

[4:31:03] That

[4:31:04] s what my experience has

[4:31:06] been. All those watching on tv.

[4:31:07] You MAY have harsh words, but

[4:31:08] you can have all the harsh

[4:31:09] words you want. It

[4:31:10] s the truth,

[4:31:10] and I

[4:31:12] ve seen it for 40 years.

[4:31:13] Mm. So I don

[4:31:14] t want some 20

[4:31:15] year old kid. I

[4:31:16] m not trying to

[4:31:17] crack on a 20 year old

[4:31:18] providing security when

[4:31:20] something goes south, because

[4:31:20] people have had too much

[4:31:21] alcohol to drink, because

[4:31:22] they

[4:31:22] ve been in the bar for a

[4:31:24] while. And so if you

[4:31:24] ve got

[4:31:26] some professional security

[4:31:27] level of it, then you

[4:31:28] ve got

[4:31:29] better training about how to

[4:31:30] de-escalate, because what I

[4:31:31] find in the past is what

[4:31:33] bouncers do. The first thing

[4:31:34] they want to do is to strike.

[4:31:36] And I represented bars who

[4:31:36] ve

[4:31:37] been sued because their

[4:31:39] bouncers have struck an even

[4:31:39] though they

[4:31:40] ve been trained.

[4:31:40] Don

[4:31:42] t strike. People grapple

[4:31:44] and escort. But that doesn

[4:31:44] t

[4:31:46] say so for for for that

[4:31:47] experience. That

[4:31:47] s why I do

[4:31:48] this. And it

[4:31:48] s not going to

[4:31:50] affect any of our bars that are

[4:31:50] currently in because they

[4:31:51] re

[4:31:51] grandfathered in. So you

[4:31:52] re

[4:31:54] lucky. But going forward, I

[4:31:54] think if you

[4:31:54] re going to be in

[4:31:56] the business of serving alcohol

[4:31:58] late at night and people tend

[4:31:59] to imbibe because how do you

[4:32:00] get drunk if you

[4:32:01] re in the bar,

[4:32:01] if they

[4:32:02] re not serving you when

[4:32:03] they probably shouldn

[4:32:03] t be

[4:32:04] serving you? Uh, they

[4:32:04] re

[4:32:06] serving you too much alcohol.

[4:32:07] And then when you get too much

[4:32:09] alcohol, people bounce into

[4:32:10] each other or see somebody,

[4:32:10] girl. And there

[4:32:11] s comments back

[4:32:13] and forth and you and you got

[4:32:13] to fight. And then when

[4:32:14] somebody gets hit, it

[4:32:15] s not the

[4:32:16] strike that hurts them. It

[4:32:16] s

[4:32:17] when they fall on the concrete

[4:32:19] and hit their head and get a

[4:32:20] brain bleed and get brain

[4:32:21] damage. And I

[4:32:22] ve seen hundreds

[4:32:24] of cases like that in 40 years.

[4:32:24] So I

[4:32:25] m a little tough on this.

[4:32:29] I know. Um, but again, a

[4:32:29] balance. There

[4:32:30] s nothing more

[4:32:31] that I see as a college kid

[4:32:31] that

[4:32:32] s just working on their

[4:32:35] part time for 13, $14 an hour.

[4:32:36] So what level of

[4:32:38] professionalism do you get? You

[4:32:39] get what you pay for. So that

[4:32:40] s

[4:32:41] why I make the motion that we

[4:32:43] should adopt it as tendered and

[4:32:46] without the, uh, the bouncers

[4:32:47] as a substitute. Because I just

[4:32:48] think what you

[4:32:48] re really saying

[4:32:50] is let us hire somebody cheap

[4:32:50] who

[4:32:51] s a college kid. And

[4:32:52] usually professional security

[4:32:54] has liability in place on

[4:32:56] insurance. So if something does

[4:32:57] go south, you

[4:32:57] ve got a

[4:32:59] liability insurance policy that

[4:33:00] can that somebody can go after.

[4:33:02] If this, uh, security personnel

[4:33:04] went too far. And again, you

[4:33:04] see it, I

[4:33:05] ve seen it time and

[4:33:07] time again. Multiple bars have

[4:33:09] been sued down, down over.

[4:33:09] So you

[4:33:10] re making a motion for

[4:33:11] the staff sergeant?

[4:33:11] Yeah. The staff

[4:33:12] s

[4:33:13] recommendation that tracking

[4:33:14] that language.

[4:33:16] Does anybody got a second?

[4:33:16] I

[4:33:17] ll second the motion.

[4:33:18] All right.

[4:33:22] Any other discussion? Speak

[4:33:26] now. Forever. Hold your peace.

[4:33:28] All right. Motion been made by

[4:33:29] Councilmember Robinson and

[4:33:29] second by Councilmember Willis.

[4:33:30] All those in favor say aye.

[4:33:32] Aye, aye. Those opposed say

[4:33:33] nay.

[4:33:35] Motion passes, five zero.

[4:33:36] Oh.

[4:33:37] All right. That was it for the

[4:33:37] public hearings. We

[4:33:38] ll move on

[4:33:39] to other items of business

[4:33:40] number 11.

[4:33:41] All right. Thank you, mayor.

[4:33:43] Item number 11, resolution

[4:33:44] approving an interlocal

[4:33:45] agreement with Pitt County.

[4:33:47] Pitt Area Transit System

[4:33:48] relating to providing

[4:33:49] paratransit transportation

[4:33:51] services within the territorial

[4:33:52] jurisdiction of the City of

[4:33:53] Greenville. I

[4:33:53] ll call forward

[4:33:54] our transit manager with

[4:33:57] Davidson for short presentation.

[4:33:59] Thank you. Good evening. Good

[4:34:01] evening, good evening. Evening.

[4:34:03] I look forward to your short

[4:34:03] presentation.

[4:34:04] A yes, sir, i

[4:34:05] m going to give

[4:34:07] you a brief update on where we

[4:34:09] are with our Ada paratransit

[4:34:11] service. So just a reminder,

[4:34:12] Ada paratransit is the

[4:34:13] mandatory point to point

[4:34:15] transportation that we have to

[4:34:16] provide for qualifying

[4:34:19] customers with disabilities in

[4:34:20] which a disability affects

[4:34:21] their access to fixed route

[4:34:24] bus. Um, this is curb. Curb.

[4:34:25] And it

[4:34:27] s, uh, reimbursed at 80%

[4:34:29] of operating costs, 85% of

[4:34:32] capital cost. Um, pleased to

[4:34:34] announce, since we were here

[4:34:36] talking about paratransit last,

[4:34:37] that, uh, the city of

[4:34:39] Greenville and Pitt County were

[4:34:42] selected to receive $200,000

[4:34:44] each as part of a coordinated

[4:34:45] public transportation grant to

[4:34:48] continue our partnership effort

[4:34:49] to provide the transportation

[4:34:52] service. Um, great will use the

[4:34:54] funds to pay for trips that the

[4:34:56] county will provide, and pets

[4:34:58] will purchase vehicles. I

[4:35:01] believe with their funds. So we

[4:35:03] have been able to negotiate a

[4:35:06] renewed partnership for fy

[4:35:10] 2627. Uh, pets went through a

[4:35:12] fully allocated cost model, uh,

[4:35:14] exercise with ncdot staff to

[4:35:16] set their trip rate so their

[4:35:18] new trip rate at a break even

[4:35:22] point is $27 per trip. Um, the

[4:35:24] city is still on track. We

[4:35:24] re

[4:35:26] scheduled to begin, uh,

[4:35:28] partial, uh, Ada paratransit

[4:35:31] service that we will provide,

[4:35:33] uh, in OCTOBER. Uh, the service

[4:35:34] is is going to be provided with

[4:35:36] four, four vans. Three, uh,

[4:35:38] which will be Ada accessible.

[4:35:40] One is a minivan. Uh, we

[4:35:41] re in

[4:35:42] the process of creating the new

[4:35:44] positions, working with hr, uh,

[4:35:47] to get that finalized. Uh, we

[4:35:49] have trip booking software

[4:35:49] that

[4:35:50] s going to manage all of

[4:35:52] the, uh, clients bookings, um,

[4:35:54] customers can book via mobile

[4:35:58] app or by calling our office a

[4:36:00] picture of what, what the

[4:36:01] vehicles will look like that

[4:36:02] will provide the service that

[4:36:04] we have. Minivan. And then the

[4:36:05] high roof, uh, vans with a

[4:36:07] transit style door. It has an

[4:36:11] Ada lift in the back. So great.

[4:36:13] Will be the primary provider

[4:36:16] once we began service, uh, in

[4:36:18] in OCTOBER. Uh, like I said,

[4:36:18] great. We

[4:36:19] ll run four vans.

[4:36:19] Pat

[4:36:22] s will provide, uh, 2 to 3,

[4:36:23] uh, and we

[4:36:24] re still talking

[4:36:27] about about 2250 rides per

[4:36:29] month, right. For this program,

[4:36:31] the hours of operation. I know

[4:36:34] this was a point, uh, we spoke

[4:36:36] about back in FEBRUARY. We were

[4:36:37] able to go back and negotiate

[4:36:39] with, with pets that they will

[4:36:41] continue to provide the trips

[4:36:43] from 4 A.M. To 6 A.M., mainly

[4:36:45] dialysis patients. Uh, great.

[4:36:47] And pets will provide service

[4:36:49] from 6 to 6 and then great will

[4:36:51] provide the service from six

[4:36:53] until 830. Uh, on weekdays.

[4:36:55] Saturdays, same thing. Pets

[4:36:57] will provide the early morning,

[4:37:00] 4 to 9. Uh, we have different

[4:37:02] hours on Saturday, so the hours

[4:37:03] will match the service that

[4:37:06] great provides. 9 to 430 great.

[4:37:08] And pets? Pets if needed. And

[4:37:10] then pets will do 430 to 6 on

[4:37:13] Saturday. All right. We will

[4:37:16] notify customers, uh, of the

[4:37:18] change. That rate will be the

[4:37:19] primary provider. Pets will be

[4:37:21] the secondary provider, uh,

[4:37:23] through electronic mail, usps,

[4:37:25] uh, starting in SEPTEMBER, uh,

[4:37:26] all existing customers data

[4:37:28] will be exported into our new

[4:37:29] system. Uh, eligible

[4:37:31] eligibility requirements will

[4:37:35] not change. All right. Um,

[4:37:37] request that council would

[4:37:40] approve the fy 2627 interlocal

[4:37:42] agreement with Pitt County.

[4:37:44] All right, any questions?

[4:37:46] I did have a question. Did I

[4:37:48] understand you correctly to say

[4:37:52] that the new assessed cost is

[4:37:55] $27 per ride? Previously, it

[4:37:58] was $9. It was 18. It was 18.

[4:38:00] So $9 both ways. It was or was

[4:38:01] it $18? One way.

[4:38:02] , each way, one way.

[4:38:07] And so the increase to $27. Now

[4:38:07] one way.

[4:38:08] Correct.

[4:38:10] Um, and there

[4:38:11] s nothing that is

[4:38:13] there anything that we can do

[4:38:18] to, um, affect that cost for

[4:38:20] citizens.

[4:38:22] So the 27 the citizen won

[4:38:22] t pay

[4:38:23] that. So that

[4:38:24] s the cost that

[4:38:26] the city will pay the county

[4:38:27] per trip.

[4:38:28] City pays the county patrol.

[4:38:30] Okay. And so then for the

[4:38:32] actual rider, what does that

[4:38:32] look like with the actual.

[4:38:35] Rider today? That is still

[4:38:38] free? When when the city begins

[4:38:39] charging a fair and that

[4:38:39] s

[4:38:41] slated for at some point in

[4:38:43] OCTOBER. Okay. Then what the

[4:38:44] federal government allows is

[4:38:47] twice the normal fare. So if we

[4:38:49] were charging $1 for a bus

[4:38:51] fare, then the fare for a pet

[4:38:52] ride would be $2.

[4:38:54] It would be $2. Okay, so i

[4:38:54] m

[4:38:56] not thinking about the cost for

[4:38:56] a citizen. That

[4:38:59] s an outside of

[4:39:01] a particular program or

[4:39:03] whatnot. I was told that it was

[4:39:06] $9 per trip. I think that.

[4:39:08] Cost that a citizen of county

[4:39:11] pays to ride pets. Versus the

[4:39:12] city. They were riding it as a

[4:39:14] county. As a county citizen,

[4:39:17] riding the county system, not a

[4:39:19] Greenville resident using the

[4:39:21] Ada paratransit system. Because

[4:39:23] we work with the county to

[4:39:24] provide our Ada paratransit

[4:39:26] system within the city limits.

[4:39:29] Right. Okay, okay. So within

[4:39:30] the city limits, it

[4:39:32] s free.

[4:39:32] It

[4:39:35] s it is what you did.

[4:39:37] It went from $27 to free. Just

[4:39:38] like.

[4:39:38] Just like that.

[4:39:40] Yeah. In the does not pay. A

[4:39:42] customer does not pay today

[4:39:42] okay.

[4:39:44] That is what we are paying.

[4:39:45] We pay the county.

[4:39:45] The county.

[4:39:48] We will pay the county 27 per

[4:39:49] trip that they provide.

[4:39:50] Which previously was 18.

[4:39:52] Correct? Okay, I got it now.

[4:39:52] Okay.

[4:39:54] All right.

[4:39:55] Just like that. You got.

[4:39:56] It free.

[4:39:57] All you gotta do is ask.

[4:39:58] I think I got an understanding.

[4:39:59] Thank you.

[4:40:01] All right. Any other questions?

[4:40:01] Comments?

[4:40:02] No. I do.

[4:40:03] Want to say, um, I

[4:40:03] m so

[4:40:04] grateful and thankful that

[4:40:05] y

[4:40:06] all did make it. Um, the time

[4:40:08] change so that we can make sure

[4:40:09] that all of our citizens, um,

[4:40:11] can get to any appointments

[4:40:13] they MAY need to be. And with

[4:40:15] that, I move that we approve.

[4:40:16] Um, and I second that you

[4:40:16] re

[4:40:19] going with, um, being specific

[4:40:22] about those citizens that are

[4:40:24] impacted by, um, dialysis and

[4:40:26] need to get to their

[4:40:27] appointments. Yes. So we

[4:40:27] re

[4:40:28] greatly appreciative.

[4:40:28] Of that.

[4:40:29] Thank you. So we second in the

[4:40:30] motion or second in the

[4:40:31] comment..

[4:40:31] Second and.

[4:40:32] Both awesome.

[4:40:34] I like that. All right. Motion

[4:40:36] been made by Councilmember

[4:40:37] Jones. Second by uh, Mayor Pro

[4:40:38] Tem Forman any other

[4:40:39] discussion?

[4:40:41] I did want to ask mayor if we

[4:40:43] could get an update at our

[4:40:45] next, um, workshop about the

[4:40:48] rollout of the shelters. Um, I

[4:40:49] would love to be able, for all

[4:40:51] of us to know together where we

[4:40:53] are with that rollout and how

[4:40:55] many more we have to go. Um,

[4:40:56] just to get some clarity.

[4:40:56] On that.

[4:40:56] We

[4:40:58] ll do. Thank you.

[4:40:59] All right. Any other

[4:41:00] discussion.

[4:41:01] When you say shelter, don

[4:41:01] t

[4:41:03] offer the benches.

[4:41:04] That for.

[4:41:05] Sure.

[4:41:08] And the bars that need to be

[4:41:09] removed.

[4:41:10] We have we

[4:41:11] ve already started

[4:41:12] removing those bars. Right.

[4:41:13] Yes, yes, yes.

[4:41:13] Okay.

[4:41:14] Thank you.

[4:41:15] I want.

[4:41:16] Welcome those. And I

[4:41:16] ve only

[4:41:18] seen a couple that are left.

[4:41:19] We put we put a few in the

[4:41:21] middle of our chairs.

[4:41:22] At one. This time we were

[4:41:25] walking. All right. Any other

[4:41:27] discussion? All those in favor

[4:41:29] say aye. Aye. Those opposed say

[4:41:29] nay.

[4:41:31] Motion passes five zero.

[4:41:31] Let

[4:41:34] s move on to item number

[4:41:36] 12. Number 12. Final real item.

[4:41:38] Approval to purchase 188

[4:41:39] vehicle for the City of

[4:41:40] Greenville and the Transit

[4:41:41] Division. Turn it back over to

[4:41:43] MR. Davidson.

[4:41:45] Thank you. All right. Request

[4:41:48] to purchase 188 paratransit

[4:41:49] van. So this would be a van

[4:41:51] matching the hot top van that

[4:41:52] we saw. Council previously

[4:41:54] approved the purchase of three

[4:41:55] back in FEBRUARY. So this would

[4:41:57] be adding, uh, another Ada van.

[4:42:02] So cost of that van,

[4:42:07] $123,371.76. Funding will come

[4:42:10] from 85% from our fta funding,

[4:42:13] 15% from general fund. That

[4:42:14] s

[4:42:15] what the van will look like.

[4:42:17] Um, we request that council

[4:42:18] approve the purchase of one Ada

[4:42:20] accessible paratransit van

[4:42:22] using fta and general funds.

[4:42:25] All right. Any questions?

[4:42:26] Motions.

[4:42:26] I

[4:42:27] ll move.

[4:42:28] All right. Most of you MAY, but

[4:42:30] Council Jones, second by

[4:42:31] Councilmember Robison. Any

[4:42:33] other discussion? All those in

[4:42:34] favor say aye. Aye, aye. Those

[4:42:35] opposed say nay.

[4:42:36] Motion passes five zero.

[4:42:37] Now what? Everybody

[4:42:37] s been

[4:42:39] waiting for. Everybody in the

[4:42:40] audience has been waiting for

[4:42:41] the city manager

[4:42:42] s report.

[4:42:43] Uh, you know, it was going to

[4:42:44] be a long one tonight, but I

[4:42:46] will make it quick. I just want

[4:42:49] to wish my wife a happy

[4:42:49] anniversary. We

[4:42:50] ll be

[4:42:52] celebrating our 34th wedding

[4:42:54] anniversary on Sunday, and I

[4:42:54] can

[4:42:55] t wait to have a nice,

[4:42:57] quiet meal together at Taco

[4:42:59] Bell. Yes.

[4:43:01] Hey, has anybody nominated her

[4:43:04] as a saint yet? Saint Pam.

[4:43:05] Saint.

[4:43:05] Pam.

[4:43:07] 34 years. Yeah. Make some else.

[4:43:08] Yeah.

[4:43:10] Oh, man.

[4:43:11] Holy cow.

[4:43:12] She likes punishment, doesn

[4:43:12] t

[4:43:13] she?

[4:43:14] Yes. We

[4:43:15] ll be enjoying our

[4:43:18] nacho Bell Grande. Uh, Sunday

[4:43:18] evening.

[4:43:19] What

[4:43:19] s up? What

[4:43:20] s the drink

[4:43:20] that they have? Like they

[4:43:20] ve

[4:43:21] had like an orange drink or

[4:43:23] something. Baja blast or

[4:43:25] something. Get her a hey, get

[4:43:26] her a bar blast to go with

[4:43:26] that..

[4:43:30] Free refills. That

[4:43:32] s all I got,

[4:43:32] man.

[4:43:32] We

[4:43:33] re going south quick. All

[4:43:35] right, our city city attorney

[4:43:35] s

[4:43:36] report quickly.

[4:43:37] Mayor and council, shout out to

[4:43:39] MR. Scott Dixon. Uh, he was

[4:43:41] reappointed to serve on the

[4:43:43] North Carolina League of

[4:43:45] Municipalities. Uh, Legislative

[4:43:46] Policy Committee. So shout out

[4:43:48] to Scott for that.

[4:43:49] Congratulations.

[4:43:52] Congratulations, Scott.

[4:43:54] All right. Maybe this might be

[4:43:57] the most anticipated, uh,

[4:43:59] comment of the night. Our city

[4:43:59] clerk

[4:44:01] s report.

[4:44:01] I

[4:44:02] m gonna keep this really

[4:44:03] short. Happy birthday to my

[4:44:04] baby sister, Frannie. She

[4:44:05] s 38,

[4:44:06] but still a baby to me.

[4:44:08] My baby sister. Oh, okay.

[4:44:10] Happy birthday. Thank you.

[4:44:10] That

[4:44:12] s awesome. Where are we

[4:44:13] going? Are we. Are we gonna

[4:44:15] start tonight? Okay.

[4:44:16] Um, MAY I rehearse this

[4:44:21] earlier? I have no comment.

[4:44:22] Uh, just, uh, congratulations

[4:44:23] to our three teams that we

[4:44:25] recognized earlier, and

[4:44:26] everybody have a great rest of

[4:44:27] your week.

[4:44:29] Awesome. Councilmember wills.

[4:44:31] Thank you. Mayor. Um, I

[4:44:33] attended the Chamber of

[4:44:33] Commerce

[4:44:35] s, um, leadership

[4:44:37] conference earlier today. That

[4:44:38] was wonderful to see all the

[4:44:39] ladies come together. It was

[4:44:42] very empowering. Uh, so kudos

[4:44:43] to them. They do such good

[4:44:44] work. And so it was a wonderful

[4:44:46] event to attend. And, uh,

[4:44:49] praying for a safe, um, school

[4:44:51] year for all of the teachers

[4:44:53] and administrators and students

[4:44:54] going back to school with pay

[4:44:56] county schools. Um, and I think

[4:44:56] that

[4:44:57] s all I have. Mayor.

[4:44:58] Thank you. All right. Thank you

[4:44:59] very much, Councilmember

[4:45:00] Robinson.

[4:45:01] Uh, I just want to echo the

[4:45:02] comments earlier. First,

[4:45:04] congratulations to Glen Wooten

[4:45:05] for serving us for three

[4:45:05] decades. That

[4:45:06] s amazing.

[4:45:08] Congratulations to those three

[4:45:10] teams. I mean, I really hear

[4:45:11] the Lady Swarm are just

[4:45:13] incredible players and coaches.

[4:45:14] I appreciate you volunteering

[4:45:15] your time and being a role

[4:45:17] model for these kids. It means

[4:45:18] more than you probably ever

[4:45:20] know in your lifetime, but

[4:45:20] they

[4:45:21] ll carry those lessons

[4:45:22] forward with them. And if

[4:45:22] you

[4:45:23] re watching and you have a

[4:45:23] team that

[4:45:24] s doing well, please

[4:45:25] let us know so we can have them

[4:45:29] down here at City Hall. Um, uh,

[4:45:29] let

[4:45:31] s see. Also, thank you to

[4:45:33] everybody and staff and Valerie

[4:45:36] for a smiley mug of flowers

[4:45:39] and, uh, a gift certificate out

[4:45:40] to Boa. I mean, because that

[4:45:41] first two weeks, I was not

[4:45:43] smiling after knee replacement,

[4:45:45] and I looked up and my wife put

[4:45:45] it right in front of me. She

[4:45:47] said. She said, do what the cup

[4:45:49] says and smile. And so thank

[4:45:49] y

[4:45:50] all for doing that because I

[4:45:51] was not smiling the first two

[4:45:52] weeks. But thank you all for

[4:45:53] thinking of me during that

[4:45:56] time.

[4:45:58] Good. All right. Mayor Pro tem

[4:45:59] for me.

[4:46:00] Uh.

[4:46:02] I will mirror the comments that

[4:46:04] were made and elevate again.

[4:46:06] The teams that were here and

[4:46:07] the many teams that we have in

[4:46:10] this city on all sides that are

[4:46:11] functioning in excellence and

[4:46:13] putting in hard work to make

[4:46:15] these accomplishments. So

[4:46:15] that

[4:46:15] s all.

[4:46:18] All right. I echo what everyone

[4:46:20] else said. Now I need a motion

[4:46:20] to adjourn.

[4:46:21] Motion to adjourn.

[4:46:22] Second.

[4:46:24] I need a motion been made by

[4:46:25] Councilmember Robinson. Second

[4:46:26] by Mayor Pro Tem Forman. All

[4:46:27] those in favor say aye. Aye.

[4:46:28] Those opposed. Nay, nay.

[4:46:30] Passes five zero.

[4:59:49] We are adjourned.

[4:59:50] More ways to save.

[5:02:44] Good. All right.

[5:02:45] All right.

[5:02:46] Good afternoon.

[5:02:47] I'd like to welcome everyone to

[5:02:48] the AUGUST 10th, 2026 workshop.

[5:02:52] I'm mayor pj Connolly for

[5:02:54] presiding over today's workshop.

[5:02:54] First I call on our city

[5:02:55] clerk for the roll call.

[5:02:58] Yes, sir.

[5:02:58] Mayor Connolly here.

[5:02:59] Mayor Pro Tem Forman here.

[5:03:01] Councilmember Jones here.

[5:03:02] Councilmember Murray here.

[5:03:03] All right.

[5:03:04] Councilmember Sculley has let

[5:03:05] us know and you will not be

[5:03:06] attending this evening.

[5:03:06] Councilmember Robinson here.

[5:03:08] Councilmember Willis here.

[5:03:09] All right.

[5:03:10] Here.

[5:03:10] Come on.

[5:03:11] Thank you very much.

[5:03:11] We'll now move on to

[5:03:12] approval of the agenda.

[5:03:13] Any recommendations?

[5:03:15] No changes.

[5:03:15] All right.

[5:03:16] Do I have a motion to

[5:03:16] approve the agenda?

[5:03:17] So moved.

[5:03:18] Thank you.

[5:03:19] All right.

[5:03:20] Motion's been made by

[5:03:20] Councilmember Erickson.

[5:03:21] Mayor Pro Tem Forman, seconded

[5:03:21] by Councilmember Jones.

[5:03:23] All those in favor say aye.

[5:03:25] Aye. Opposed.

[5:03:26] Any motion passes five zero.

[5:03:26] All right, we move

[5:03:27] on to new business.

[5:03:28] Item number one.

[5:03:29] Thank you.

[5:03:30] Mayor. Item number

[5:03:30] one is an overview of.

[5:03:31] The relationship between the

[5:03:31] city of Greenville and the

[5:03:32] housing authority for

[5:03:34] the city of Greenville.

[5:03:35] And the assistant city manager,

[5:03:36] Danny Alexander, will come

[5:03:37] forward to give

[5:03:39] the presentation.

[5:03:51] Good afternoon, mayor

[5:03:54] and city council.

[5:03:54] As the city manager said, I am

[5:03:56] standing before you today to

[5:03:58] provide an overview of our

[5:04:00] relationship with the Housing

[5:04:01] Housing Authority of

[5:04:03] the City of Greenville.

[5:04:05] And so we just want to kind of

[5:04:05] set the stage in terms of why

[5:04:12] we're here.

[5:04:12] Um, the city has seen a large

[5:04:13] influx in complaints that have

[5:04:14] required a lot of involvement

[5:04:17] from city staff to ultimately

[5:04:20] get to resolution.

[5:04:21] Um, and in JUNE of 2026,

[5:04:22] we actually received

[5:04:23] correspondence from the

[5:04:26] Department of Housing and Urban

[5:04:27] Development regarding some

[5:04:30] noncompliance with inspections

[5:04:33] dating back to 2024.

[5:04:34] Um, these were life

[5:04:35] threatening, um, deficiencies

[5:04:39] that could lead to a high risk

[5:04:40] of death if they

[5:04:41] weren't resolved.

[5:04:42] And we were able to get

[5:04:42] confirmation from hud in JULY

[5:04:43] of this year that the Housing

[5:04:46] Authority is now in compliance

[5:04:47] with all of those

[5:04:49] outstanding violations.

[5:04:50] Um, based on that background,

[5:04:52] in JUNE, City Council requested

[5:04:54] that we provide some

[5:04:57] information about our

[5:04:58] relationship with the housing

[5:04:59] authority and how, um, there

[5:05:00] might be some overlap

[5:05:03] or how we collide.

[5:05:03] Uh, they wanted to learn about

[5:05:05] elevated concerns regarding

[5:05:06] substandard housing conditions,

[5:05:09] and also wanted to talk about

[5:05:10] tools where we could mitigate

[5:05:12] maybe some of the issues we

[5:05:13] were seeing and how we might

[5:05:15] be able to get more involved to

[5:05:17] get our arms around that.

[5:05:18] Um, so just want to kind of set

[5:05:19] some, um, foundation in terms

[5:05:20] of the purpose of the

[5:05:23] housing Authority.

[5:05:24] It is to promote safe and

[5:05:25] sanitary public housing here in

[5:05:27] the city.

[5:05:28] The housing authority is a

[5:05:29] creature of statute

[5:05:30] and local resolution.

[5:05:30] So chapter 157 of the North

[5:05:32] Carolina General Statutes, um,

[5:05:36] really lays the authority in

[5:05:36] terms of this particular,

[5:05:37] um, allowance.

[5:05:38] And so within that law, either

[5:05:41] the city can run the housing

[5:05:42] authority, the redevelopment

[5:05:45] Commission can run the housing

[5:05:45] authority, or we can have

[5:05:48] an actual housing authority.

[5:05:49] Um, and so in MAY of 1961, the

[5:05:50] then city Council adopted a

[5:05:52] resolution creating

[5:05:55] the housing authority.

[5:05:58] It was a three two vote amongst

[5:05:58] the council members

[5:05:59] at that time.

[5:06:00] Um, and they there have been

[5:06:01] some subsequent resolutions

[5:06:02] that have come out from

[5:06:05] council, um, solely increasing

[5:06:09] the membership on the board of

[5:06:09] up to now we're up

[5:06:11] to seven members.

[5:06:11] Um, another layer in terms of

[5:06:13] the housing Authority is the

[5:06:16] oversight from the us

[5:06:17] Department of Housing

[5:06:18] and Urban Development.

[5:06:18] They provide the majority of

[5:06:19] the Housing Authority funding

[5:06:23] to be able to function.

[5:06:24] They do have some regulation

[5:06:24] over the housing authority.

[5:06:25] I mentioned the, um, inspire

[5:06:27] inspections at the beginning,

[5:06:27] and then they've got some

[5:06:30] regulation over their

[5:06:30] programming that they're

[5:06:32] implementing for the residents,

[5:06:33] some additional information

[5:06:34] about the structure.

[5:06:37] They do have a

[5:06:39] seven member board.

[5:06:39] As I mentioned, that board was

[5:06:41] created by the city council.

[5:06:42] City Council is selecting or

[5:06:45] appointing membership based on

[5:06:49] a rotation.

[5:06:50] Um, their board members are

[5:06:51] eligible for a single

[5:06:53] five year term.

[5:06:53] This was a recent update in

[5:06:55] our rules of procedure, the

[5:06:56] council's Rules of procedure,

[5:06:58] in FEBRUARY of 2024.

[5:06:58] Up until that point, they were

[5:07:01] allowed an unlimited number of

[5:07:01] terms, and we were seeing

[5:07:04] people sit on the board, um,

[5:07:04] for multiple stints, um, many

[5:07:07] decades in some instances.

[5:07:09] Um, so like I said, that rule

[5:07:11] did change in FEBRUARY of 2024.

[5:07:13] There is one exception to the

[5:07:15] rule in terms of the authority

[5:07:16] for the city council to

[5:07:19] appoint, and that is the

[5:07:20] resident commissioner.

[5:07:21] They are first elected by the

[5:07:22] Resident Council, which is

[5:07:23] solely run by the

[5:07:26] Housing Authority.

[5:07:26] And once they are selected,

[5:07:28] then the City Council moves

[5:07:28] forward with the appointment

[5:07:31] of that particular individual.

[5:07:32] Um Commissioner cannot be a

[5:07:34] city official and that is by

[5:07:39] state statute.

[5:07:40] They are.

[5:07:41] Once they are seated, they are

[5:07:41] then responsible for hiring a

[5:07:42] qualified executive director to

[5:07:44] really be able to handle those

[5:07:47] day to day operations.

[5:07:48] And as of right now, their

[5:07:49] Board of commissioners

[5:07:50] meets monthly.

[5:07:51] It's the last Tuesday

[5:07:52] of each month at 6:00.

[5:07:54] So a little bit of background

[5:07:55] about the residents council.

[5:07:58] As I mentioned, this is

[5:08:01] facilitated completely by the

[5:08:04] housing authority.

[5:08:04] Um, the city does not have

[5:08:05] anything to do with this

[5:08:07] particular body.

[5:08:08] Um, at this point in time,

[5:08:09] it is not operational.

[5:08:10] Um, each, um, like I said,

[5:08:12] resident Commissioner is

[5:08:16] elected by this particular body.

[5:08:17] The term for our current

[5:08:19] resident commissioner expired

[5:08:22] in 2025.

[5:08:23] Um, and we requested for a

[5:08:23] nomination for an additional,

[5:08:28] um, resident commissioner.

[5:08:30] And as of today, we have not

[5:08:31] received that, um,

[5:08:31] that that nomination.

[5:08:32] And the current commissioner

[5:08:34] is holding over there in a

[5:08:35] holdover pattern unless

[5:08:37] and until somebody else is

[5:08:40] appointed in sworn in.

[5:08:41] Their membership includes

[5:08:43] people throughout

[5:08:44] their communities.

[5:08:45] Everybody who is named on a

[5:08:46] lease as a head of household is

[5:08:46] a member of this particular

[5:08:49] body, and they're able to vote.

[5:08:51] And then outside of that

[5:08:54] head of household, those are

[5:08:54] non-voting members, but they

[5:08:56] still have a voice in terms of

[5:08:58] that particular council.

[5:08:59] These are just an overview of

[5:09:00] the initial goals of why the

[5:09:03] residents Council was created

[5:09:06] to be able to create employment

[5:09:07] opportunities, promote job

[5:09:10] training, education, healthy

[5:09:11] lifestyles, provide an

[5:09:14] opportunity for public housing

[5:09:14] residents to learn skills and

[5:09:17] the operation of businesses,

[5:09:18] foster pride in public

[5:09:20] neighborhoods, and then combat

[5:09:21] community deterioration

[5:09:24] and juvenile delinquency.

[5:09:24] Like I said, these were just

[5:09:26] the foundational goals in which

[5:09:27] that particular

[5:09:29] council was created.

[5:09:31] There's one other major

[5:09:32] component in terms of how the

[5:09:34] housing authority operates,

[5:09:37] and that is through their

[5:09:38] Greenville Housing

[5:09:39] Development Corporation.

[5:09:40] It is exactly what

[5:09:41] it says it is.

[5:09:42] It's an opportunity for them

[5:09:43] to hold a nonprofit that is

[5:09:45] intended to assist homeowners,

[5:09:48] homebuyers and renters to be

[5:09:48] able to acquire and retain

[5:09:51] a home of their own.

[5:09:52] But I think one of the core

[5:09:54] principles of this is it allows

[5:09:55] the housing authority, the

[5:09:57] development corporation, to

[5:09:58] borrow money without it working

[5:10:00] against the actual housing

[5:10:01] authority such that it's

[5:10:03] a liability in debt.

[5:10:04] It gives them coverage

[5:10:06] essentially, for them to be

[5:10:07] able to go out and get money,

[5:10:08] loan money, what have you.

[5:10:09] So in terms of their portfolio,

[5:10:10] this information is provided to

[5:10:14] their commissioners at each of

[5:10:17] their monthly meetings, based

[5:10:20] on their most recent report

[5:10:21] that they submitted to the city.

[5:10:22] They've got 714 units in the

[5:10:23] public housing portfolio, about

[5:10:24] 156 units in their non-public

[5:10:27] housing portfolio, 920 units

[5:10:32] with private landlords.

[5:10:33] Those are their their contracts

[5:10:33] where they allow for, um,

[5:10:34] private landlords to be in the

[5:10:37] business and provide housing

[5:10:38] under the section eight program

[5:10:40] and then 110 units for project

[5:10:44] based rental assistance.

[5:10:44] So typically you see those

[5:10:45] when you've got these large

[5:10:46] development projects and they

[5:10:47] attach vouchers to units, um,

[5:10:48] allowing low moderate income

[5:10:51] individuals to, to stay in

[5:10:54] those particular units.

[5:10:55] Um, they, they as you can see,

[5:10:55] they've got a large portfolio.

[5:10:57] A lot of their properties are

[5:10:59] in need of significant repairs.

[5:11:00] They're dating back to being

[5:11:02] built in the 60s when the

[5:11:03] housing authority

[5:11:06] started in 1961.

[5:11:06] Um, and so a lot of them,

[5:11:07] unfortunately, are, um, dealing

[5:11:10] with substandard conditions and

[5:11:13] they do not meet the minimum

[5:11:13] housing standards that the city

[5:11:15] applies through its ordinances.

[5:11:17] Um, as of right now,

[5:11:20] we've got 43 active cases.

[5:11:24] Um, they're initiated

[5:11:25] throughout many of

[5:11:25] the neighborhoods.

[5:11:26] Uh, a lot of them are tied to

[5:11:27] ac issues, electrical issues,

[5:11:29] smoke detectors, leaks, uh,

[5:11:31] pest infestations, mold really,

[5:11:32] really issues that you see

[5:11:35] across the board in terms of

[5:11:39] what they have going on.

[5:11:40] So kind of shifting gears,

[5:11:41] wanted to give, like I said,

[5:11:44] that foundational background

[5:11:47] piece, uh, to talk really

[5:11:48] through the regulation

[5:11:50] and the authority.

[5:11:51] And as I mentioned at the

[5:11:53] beginning of the presentation,

[5:11:53] the core authority for the

[5:11:55] housing authority comes from

[5:11:56] chapter 5157 of the North

[5:11:58] Carolina General Statutes.

[5:11:59] Um, and they've got about 30

[5:12:02] or so powers that are laid out

[5:12:06] within that statute.

[5:12:07] And I've gone through and

[5:12:08] you'll see them in

[5:12:09] the next few threads.

[5:12:09] I'm not going to go through

[5:12:10] each of them in detail.

[5:12:10] Um, but I will

[5:12:12] highlight some of them.

[5:12:13] And so first and foremost,

[5:12:14] investigate into living

[5:12:15] dwelling housing conditions and

[5:12:16] into the means and methods of

[5:12:19] improving such conditions.

[5:12:20] That's their core.

[5:12:21] Um, one of their core

[5:12:21] principles determining unsafe,

[5:12:22] insanitary dwelling or housing

[5:12:25] conditions, um, exercising

[5:12:29] functions for housing projects.

[5:12:30] so they should be in the

[5:12:30] business of development to be

[5:12:33] able to provide affordable

[5:12:34] housing, low income

[5:12:34] opportunities.

[5:12:35] They've got the ability to

[5:12:37] construct and prove alter all

[5:12:38] those things that come

[5:12:40] along with with development.

[5:12:42] Um, arrange cooperation

[5:12:42] with local governments.

[5:12:45] I've highlighted this because,

[5:12:47] um, a little bit later in the

[5:12:48] presentation, I will make

[5:12:50] mention of a cooperation

[5:12:51] agreement that we signed with

[5:12:52] the Housing Authority in 1961

[5:12:55] when it was initiated.

[5:12:56] Um, that really deals with

[5:12:57] us cooperating for public

[5:12:57] infrastructure, public

[5:13:00] services, land use, um, what

[5:13:02] have you.

[5:13:03] Um, and then the other bullet

[5:13:04] I'll highlight, um, that's

[5:13:04] really tied to them making

[5:13:06] information available to us,

[5:13:07] um, in terms of conditions, um,

[5:13:10] existing, which are dangerous

[5:13:12] to public health, safety,

[5:13:15] welfare, morals, what have you.

[5:13:16] And so, like I said, they're

[5:13:18] they are required to provide us

[5:13:19] with information regarding

[5:13:22] those types of conditions, um,

[5:13:25] when we request it.

[5:13:26] Um, in terms of, um, I

[5:13:27] mentioned development, they're

[5:13:29] able to conduct property

[5:13:32] transactions, and then they are

[5:13:33] able to exercise a slew of

[5:13:35] administrative functions along

[5:13:37] the lines of making

[5:13:40] bylaws, borrowing money.

[5:13:43] They've got subpoena powers.

[5:13:45] They can sue and be sued.

[5:13:45] Um, so all those really

[5:13:47] administrative functions that

[5:13:47] come along with you running,

[5:13:49] uh, an entity or, or

[5:13:50] organization that's really

[5:13:53] quasi judicial in nature.

[5:13:56] So in terms of where the

[5:13:57] city fits in with the housing

[5:14:02] authority, first and foremost,

[5:14:05] the city council liaison is

[5:14:06] appointed after each

[5:14:09] municipal election.

[5:14:09] Um, this appointment

[5:14:10] is made by the mayor.

[5:14:11] Uh, the current liaison

[5:14:13] is Mayor Pro Tem Forman.

[5:14:15] We engage with residents who

[5:14:18] are experiencing experiencing

[5:14:19] challenges with their

[5:14:22] housing conditions.

[5:14:22] Um, as I mentioned, the, uh,

[5:14:23] many issues with ac heat.

[5:14:25] We've gotten a lot of

[5:14:28] complaints recently about bills

[5:14:29] and rent statements, mold

[5:14:31] issues, pest infestations, and

[5:14:33] we really are in the business

[5:14:36] of trying to work through

[5:14:37] solutions for those particular

[5:14:39] clientele because first and

[5:14:39] foremost, they are members of

[5:14:42] our community, and they deserve

[5:14:42] the same access to resources

[5:14:44] and assistance that anybody

[5:14:45] else in the community would

[5:14:48] be eligible to receive.

[5:14:48] So when we get calls, we really

[5:14:50] do try to pass that information

[5:14:51] along to their boards so that

[5:14:53] we can raise some awareness and

[5:14:54] ultimately get to a place where

[5:14:57] we can get it resolved in the

[5:15:01] best interest of the citizen.

[5:15:01] Um, I mentioned the

[5:15:03] cooperation agreement earlier.

[5:15:04] Um, like I said, the

[5:15:06] original was signed in 1961.

[5:15:09] Really dealing with public

[5:15:10] infrastructure, public services.

[5:15:11] We have since had 3 or 4

[5:15:12] amendments solely tied to

[5:15:16] increasing the number of units.

[5:15:19] So I think we started with

[5:15:19] about 225 units in

[5:15:20] the 1961 agreement.

[5:15:21] Um, and they steadily increased

[5:15:23] over the years as they continue

[5:15:24] to build public

[5:15:27] housing neighborhoods.

[5:15:28] And so that is, like I said,

[5:15:29] that is the one thing that was

[5:15:30] changing amongst

[5:15:32] all the amendments.

[5:15:33] Um, and ultimately, like I

[5:15:35] said, the last amendment was in

[5:15:40] 1981, I believe.

[5:15:41] Um, so we have not evaluated

[5:15:42] that agreement since that time.

[5:15:44] Um, we, we meet as

[5:15:46] managers, um, as necessary.

[5:15:47] So with their leadership team

[5:15:50] and the city's leadership team

[5:15:53] as things come up.

[5:15:53] Um, we, like I said, we'll

[5:15:54] schedule meetings, talk through

[5:15:55] it, see if we can't find

[5:15:57] a workable solution.

[5:15:58] Um, I typically attend

[5:15:59] the monthly board meetings

[5:16:01] alongside Mayor Pro Tem Forman

[5:16:03] just so we can stay in the

[5:16:04] loop, provide information both

[5:16:06] ways, and really be able to

[5:16:07] keep our finger on the pulse in

[5:16:10] terms of what's what's going on

[5:16:13] at the Housing authority.

[5:16:13] Um, I've mentioned

[5:16:14] code enforcement.

[5:16:15] There's been a lot of

[5:16:17] engagement in that, that

[5:16:20] particular arena recently.

[5:16:20] Um, especially with that notice

[5:16:22] we received from hud and Judon

[5:16:23] that that really, um,

[5:16:24] increased awareness for us.

[5:16:26] Um, when the feds reached out

[5:16:29] to us to let them let us know

[5:16:31] what was going on.

[5:16:31] Um, affordable housing

[5:16:32] development, our most recent

[5:16:33] development would have been the

[5:16:35] Arlington Trace, where council

[5:16:35] actually had to approve bonds

[5:16:37] for that particular project.

[5:16:38] There are project vouchers

[5:16:39] connected to that, um,

[5:16:43] development as well.

[5:16:43] Um, and so we are having

[5:16:44] additional conversations now in

[5:16:46] terms of some additional

[5:16:49] affordable housing development

[5:16:49] that we're trying to

[5:16:51] to move down the pike.

[5:16:52] Um, we approve their

[5:16:53] consistency statements.

[5:16:54] Um, they're required to be in

[5:16:57] line with the city's annual

[5:16:58] action plan and five

[5:17:01] year consolidated plan.

[5:17:01] Um, and so their plan has to

[5:17:03] come through us in terms of us

[5:17:04] signing off on it, to say that

[5:17:07] it is consistent with what we

[5:17:07] have laid out in

[5:17:09] terms of, um, housing.

[5:17:12] Um, and then the the last piece

[5:17:13] up there is actually

[5:17:14] it's bond issuance.

[5:17:15] Um, and like I said, the most

[5:17:17] recent one would have been for

[5:17:19] Arlington Trace.

[5:17:19] And that all comes

[5:17:20] through City Council.

[5:17:21] Some additional

[5:17:22] involvement in 2024.

[5:17:26] I did an extensive evaluation

[5:17:28] of the support that we were

[5:17:31] providing to the

[5:17:34] Housing Authority.

[5:17:34] Um, just to understand what

[5:17:36] types of in-kind services we

[5:17:40] were providing them and be able

[5:17:41] to attach monetary

[5:17:42] amounts to it.

[5:17:42] Um, the largest piece that

[5:17:44] came out of this is within the

[5:17:45] cooperation agreement

[5:17:47] that was signed in 1961.

[5:17:48] There is some language in there

[5:17:49] that has been interpreted to be

[5:17:52] able to provide rescue services

[5:17:55] at no charge to all of the

[5:18:00] housing authorities units.

[5:18:01] Um, that has since

[5:18:02] been in re-interpreted.

[5:18:02] Um, and we're evaluating that,

[5:18:04] but that's costing us annually

[5:18:08] around $163,000.

[5:18:09] There are.

[5:18:11] Things.

[5:18:12] Costing us around $163,000

[5:18:12] annually in terms of us

[5:18:13] providing that, that

[5:18:16] particular service to them.

[5:18:17] Um, information

[5:18:19] technology services.

[5:18:20] They use our fiber systems,

[5:18:21] our telephone lines.

[5:18:25] Um, and.

[5:18:26] They're paying for it in some

[5:18:26] instances, but it

[5:18:28] is not at a cost.

[5:18:29] That would be, um, more

[5:18:30] expensive because they're

[5:18:30] tacked into our particular

[5:18:33] services that we're providing.

[5:18:34] When you break down like the

[5:18:36] rescue services, is that like,

[5:18:39] is that individual, individual

[5:18:41] services for each of the units,

[5:18:43] or is this like a larger

[5:18:46] complex where we're offering

[5:18:47] like dumpster dumpster services

[5:18:50] and typically and and typically

[5:18:52] those tenants do they still

[5:18:54] get individual bills for

[5:18:59] electricity for those units.

[5:19:01] They do so.

[5:19:02] So essentially it's just

[5:19:03] saving the tenants money.

[5:19:04] It's not really being a benefit

[5:19:05] to the I mean, I guess the

[5:19:05] tenants I mean the housing

[5:19:08] authority will benefit because

[5:19:09] they can, I guess, advertise

[5:19:11] that they have unless the

[5:19:14] housing authority.

[5:19:15] Works to choose to pick it up

[5:19:16] on behalf of their tenants.

[5:19:16] But typically it's not like

[5:19:19] they would be charged directly

[5:19:22] for that fee.

[5:19:23] That's being passed along to

[5:19:24] the people that are living in

[5:19:26] the actual units.

[5:19:27] Um, in terms of public safety,

[5:19:28] there are two officers that

[5:19:32] cover the housing

[5:19:35] authorities neighborhoods.

[5:19:36] The city covers the cost of

[5:19:38] one, and the housing authority

[5:19:41] covers the cost of the other.

[5:19:42] There are roughly about

[5:19:42] $80,000 per officer.

[5:19:44] Um, one of the other

[5:19:46] angles is the ShotSpotter.

[5:19:47] We recently renewed that

[5:19:49] contract, and the Housing

[5:19:50] Authority is paying about 25%

[5:19:52] of the total overall cost, and

[5:19:57] that's roughly about 65, $66,000

[5:19:58] that they're paying for that

[5:20:00] cost amongst, um, the city ecu

[5:20:03] Housing Authority and then

[5:20:06] Pitt County Public Schools.

[5:20:06] So it's for individuals or for

[5:20:08] entities that are helping to

[5:20:08] cover the cost of that

[5:20:10] particular contract.

[5:20:11] Um, they've got access to our

[5:20:13] fuel station at our public

[5:20:16] services complex.

[5:20:17] They pay the same cost that

[5:20:17] the city pays in terms of being

[5:20:21] able to fuel their vehicles.

[5:20:22] And up until JANUARY of this

[5:20:22] year, they were, um, using our

[5:20:29] health insurance.

[5:20:30] And so they have now gone out

[5:20:30] and secured their own plan, um,

[5:20:31] in terms of that

[5:20:33] particular component.

[5:20:34] So with all of that

[5:20:35] information, one of the big

[5:20:38] things that council requested

[5:20:41] was for us to be able to

[5:20:42] evaluate any additional places

[5:20:44] where we could provide some,

[5:20:48] some oversight, um, and be able

[5:20:49] to keep our fingers

[5:20:50] on the pulse.

[5:20:51] Um, and so statutorily out of

[5:20:52] chapter 157, there are a couple

[5:20:56] of angles that I want to

[5:20:57] provide you all

[5:20:57] for consideration.

[5:20:58] Discussion. Um, for us to be

[5:20:59] able to determine what next

[5:21:02] steps look like.

[5:21:03] Um, so first and foremost,

[5:21:03] the statute requires that they

[5:21:07] provide an annual report.

[5:21:08] And I will say that the annual

[5:21:09] reports have been

[5:21:11] fairly consistent.

[5:21:12] Um, they're filing those

[5:21:13] with the city regularly.

[5:21:14] There was a time in 2008 when

[5:21:16] there board at the time voted

[5:21:18] to in the practice of coming

[5:21:21] before council and just simply

[5:21:25] submitting a written report.

[5:21:25] Um, and so, like I said,

[5:21:26] they've been consistent in

[5:21:28] submitting those reports.

[5:21:29] Last report we

[5:21:29] received was in 2025,

[5:21:30] and we anticipate receiving

[5:21:31] another one in SEPTEMBER,

[5:21:33] OCTOBER of this year in terms

[5:21:35] of their annual activities.

[5:21:39] I've talked a lot about

[5:21:39] the cooperation agreement.

[5:21:43] This is another opportunity

[5:21:44] that we have, and that is to

[5:21:45] look at the language and

[5:21:48] the cooperation agreement.

[5:21:48] Like I said, it was

[5:21:50] first signed in 1961.

[5:21:50] So being able to look at

[5:21:52] that agreement and adjust

[5:21:53] accordingly for where we

[5:21:56] are, make sure we have the

[5:21:57] appropriate interpretations

[5:21:58] for how we're implementing, um,

[5:22:02] activities between us.

[5:22:02] Um, some of the other um,

[5:22:04] examples in terms of those

[5:22:05] amendments, I mentioned that it

[5:22:07] of course included increasing

[5:22:10] the number of units.

[5:22:11] Um, but it allowed for the

[5:22:12] making of loans and the

[5:22:13] facilitation of the

[5:22:14] rehabilitation program, and

[5:22:15] that facilitation of the

[5:22:16] rehabilitation program came up

[5:22:18] in 1981.

[5:22:19] That was that was one of the

[5:22:20] reasons for that particular,

[5:22:22] um, amendment.

[5:22:23] Um, one of the other um,

[5:22:24] statutory allowances deals with

[5:22:27] the budgeting and

[5:22:30] accounting piece.

[5:22:31] And essentially the state

[5:22:32] law provides that the housing

[5:22:34] authorities, um, budget,

[5:22:36] finances, all of those

[5:22:37] activities can function as a

[5:22:40] public enterprise of the city.

[5:22:41] Um, and so what that would look

[5:22:44] like is all of their finances

[5:22:45] would essentially be running

[5:22:48] through the city and managed by

[5:22:48] our financial

[5:22:50] services department.

[5:22:51] Um, in terms of budget

[5:22:52] spending, what have you.

[5:22:53] And so we have evaluated

[5:22:56] this provision.

[5:22:56] Um, I think there's absolutely

[5:22:59] additional room to evaluate

[5:23:03] further, um, to see what that

[5:23:03] would really look

[5:23:04] like logistically.

[5:23:05] But that is, like I said,

[5:23:06] one of the allowances that's

[5:23:08] written out in the state law.

[5:23:13] Removal of commissioners.

[5:23:13] This this particular authority

[5:23:14] belongs solely to the mayor.

[5:23:18] Um.

[5:23:20] And, uh, the mayor would

[5:23:20] be permitted to remove a

[5:23:23] commissioner for inefficiency

[5:23:25] or neglect of duty or

[5:23:28] misconduct in office.

[5:23:29] Those particular terms are

[5:23:29] not defined in state statute.

[5:23:30] Um, so we would apply an

[5:23:33] ordinary, reasonable person

[5:23:34] definition to what

[5:23:37] might qualify.

[5:23:37] i see y'all given eyeballs, uh,

[5:23:39] for what might qualify, um, in

[5:23:40] terms of those

[5:23:43] particular definitions.

[5:23:44] Um, the only key here is that

[5:23:45] we would follow the statutory

[5:23:49] process that is laid out.

[5:23:50] And essentially it's a

[5:23:50] due process procedure.

[5:23:51] Um, that you would have

[5:23:53] to follow in terms of the

[5:23:54] commissioner being made aware

[5:23:56] of what the charges are based

[5:23:56] on a set timeline and then

[5:23:59] giving them an opportunity to

[5:23:59] respond in the event

[5:24:02] they do not respond.

[5:24:03] It's considered acquiescing to

[5:24:04] whatever the the allegation or

[5:24:05] charge might be and

[5:24:08] ultimately subject to removal.

[5:24:08] Um, I know of one instance, um,

[5:24:11] decades ago where this actually

[5:24:14] came up, but the individual

[5:24:17] ultimately was not removed, and

[5:24:20] that charge was actually coming

[5:24:21] from the Housing

[5:24:22] Authority board.

[5:24:23] They were requesting for

[5:24:24] somebody to be removed.

[5:24:24] Um, like I said, I don't I

[5:24:26] don't I was not aware of or

[5:24:27] could not find any other

[5:24:29] instances where this statutory

[5:24:30] authority has actually

[5:24:32] had to be utilized.

[5:24:32] And last but certainly not

[5:24:34] least, this is really the

[5:24:39] nuclear option.

[5:24:40] And that's, that's, that's to

[5:24:40] be able to abolish

[5:24:42] the housing authority.

[5:24:44] We created them.

[5:24:45] We've got the authority

[5:24:46] to abolish them.

[5:24:46] Um, and it's a matter of simply

[5:24:47] following the procedures that

[5:24:51] are laid out in the rules.

[5:24:52] Um, and so if that became the

[5:24:53] case, either the city would

[5:24:55] have to take on their

[5:24:58] responsibilities or a

[5:25:00] redevelopment commission would

[5:25:01] have to take on the

[5:25:02] responsibilities.

[5:25:02] And another option is a council

[5:25:03] of governments to be able to

[5:25:04] take on the responsibilities,

[5:25:06] um, of the housing authority.

[5:25:06] And I think for this one,

[5:25:09] you're in a place where it's

[5:25:12] just absolutely egregious.

[5:25:13] Um, this is probably

[5:25:14] not the first step.

[5:25:16] Um, but it's an option.

[5:25:17] It's a tool in the

[5:25:18] toolbox that is out there.

[5:25:18] So with that being said, I want

[5:25:20] to give council an opportunity

[5:25:22] to discuss, provide any

[5:25:25] feedback for any tools, um,

[5:25:26] that you all might be

[5:25:29] interested in or any questions

[5:25:30] that you might have regarding

[5:25:32] our relationship with the

[5:25:34] Housing Authority.

[5:25:34] So the 714 units, the

[5:25:35] money is paid to rent.

[5:25:38] Those are paid to the

[5:25:40] housing authority.

[5:25:42] Correct.

[5:25:43] That's correct.

[5:25:43] And that's their

[5:25:44] operational budget.

[5:25:44] In addition to any grants they

[5:25:46] MAY get from the federal or

[5:25:48] state government.

[5:25:49] That's correct.

[5:25:50] They're running a business.

[5:25:51] And when we say they give us a

[5:25:51] report, what's in that report?

[5:25:55] When they give it to us.

[5:25:55] It typically consists of their

[5:25:56] activities over the course of

[5:25:59] the year.

[5:26:00] So a lot of times they're

[5:26:00] talking about, um, capital

[5:26:02] improvement plans.

[5:26:03] They're talking about their

[5:26:04] portfolio in terms of how much.

[5:26:08] Um, Charlie was processed.

[5:26:09] Right?

[5:26:10] Yep.

[5:26:11] Oh, did.

[5:26:11] They're 20.

[5:26:12] You MAY not know the answer to

[5:26:12] this, but the 2025 report they

[5:26:13] gave to the City council

[5:26:15] disclosed all these bad housing

[5:26:19] issues they had.

[5:26:21] No.

[5:26:22] So is that an innocent mistake?

[5:26:25] Is it neglect or is intentional?

[5:26:27] Do we know that answer?

[5:26:28] Um, I would say, Council Member

[5:26:29] Robinson, that that is those

[5:26:32] deficiencies when they came

[5:26:35] to to the city staff is what

[5:26:36] really raised this

[5:26:39] to a higher level.

[5:26:41] That's what my concern.

[5:26:42] Is because, you know, clearly

[5:26:43] over the last two years, the

[5:26:44] the city manager's office has

[5:26:47] spent a lot of time addressing

[5:26:47] some of the deficiencies that

[5:26:50] are happening within the units.

[5:26:51] I know Council Member Forman

[5:26:53] has also spent a lot of time

[5:26:56] with with with with contacts.

[5:26:57] We got it's got to the point

[5:26:58] where when we have those

[5:26:59] efficiencies we are, we are

[5:27:01] alerting the full entire board

[5:27:02] to make sure that not just the

[5:27:05] the administrator knows that

[5:27:08] the full board does.

[5:27:08] But when we receive the

[5:27:09] deficiencies that date back to

[5:27:10] 2024, that's where we asked for

[5:27:12] the information to to so that

[5:27:14] we could dive into it to the

[5:27:17] point that we have opened up

[5:27:18] Covid cases amongst all the

[5:27:21] different neighborhoods and

[5:27:23] where the rubber hit the road

[5:27:25] was in the last report from hud

[5:27:26] that basically gave the housing

[5:27:29] authority like three days, or

[5:27:30] they were going to suspend,

[5:27:32] uh, several million dollars in

[5:27:35] capital funding.

[5:27:36] But I guess what, I'm

[5:27:36] really not in the city.

[5:27:37] What I'm getting at is, number

[5:27:38] one is there should be a

[5:27:40] mechanism for the tenant

[5:27:43] to complain to the housing

[5:27:43] authority for conditions

[5:27:45] that are not up to par.

[5:27:46] And there should be a protocol

[5:27:48] for the Housing Commission to

[5:27:50] deal with that problem, just

[5:27:53] like a landlord would deal with

[5:27:56] the problem.

[5:27:57] And then there should be, okay,

[5:27:57] we dealt with it so it doesn't

[5:27:58] backlog to the point where

[5:28:01] it catches so much attention.

[5:28:01] The federal government comes

[5:28:03] in and all of a sudden we're

[5:28:04] having to go do some of the

[5:28:06] work that the Housing Authority

[5:28:09] should be doing.

[5:28:10] So I'm kind of, you know,

[5:28:11] from my standpoint from here.

[5:28:12] Councilmember Forman said the

[5:28:15] other things about all these

[5:28:16] horrendous complaints it got

[5:28:17] to the boiling point is that I

[5:28:18] think we really need to take a

[5:28:21] hard, close look at the housing

[5:28:26] authority and look at the

[5:28:26] financial side of

[5:28:28] what they're doing.

[5:28:29] Um, and look at the protocols

[5:28:30] that have in place, because

[5:28:31] none of these problems should

[5:28:33] get to the level they got to.

[5:28:36] And because,

[5:28:36] again, we're dealing with

[5:28:37] people in these conditions

[5:28:39] that, you know, all those kinds

[5:28:41] of problems, it's unacceptable.

[5:28:42] And and quite frankly, the

[5:28:45] picture that's being painted

[5:28:48] for me to look at is like the

[5:28:48] Housing authority

[5:28:49] is doing nothing.

[5:28:50] I think that when I say doing

[5:28:51] nothing that didn't do anything

[5:28:52] for two years because

[5:28:55] it got that bad.

[5:28:55] And I know this is not anywhere

[5:28:56] on the city because we're

[5:28:57] having to clean some

[5:28:59] of this mess up.

[5:29:00] But I think it's so much like

[5:29:01] we need to go in and have a

[5:29:04] house clean.

[5:29:04] Like what's going

[5:29:05] on financially?

[5:29:06] Are your books in order?

[5:29:07] Are you spending

[5:29:08] your money wisely?

[5:29:09] I mean, when the money gets

[5:29:09] doled out, we have to have some

[5:29:12] accounting back.

[5:29:13] And this report that doesn't

[5:29:14] even talk about that.

[5:29:14] And then, number two, I'd like

[5:29:15] to know about the protocols for

[5:29:16] how complaints get received,

[5:29:19] how a tenant can complain, uh,

[5:29:20] what's the time frame from

[5:29:23] trying to fix that problem?

[5:29:23] And the financial

[5:29:25] side is not there.

[5:29:25] What do they do to

[5:29:27] try and mitigate that?

[5:29:28] Because if somebody's getting

[5:29:30] too much money in the federal

[5:29:31] government, because as many

[5:29:32] problems it seems

[5:29:34] like they've had.

[5:29:34] I mean, if this were an

[5:29:36] ordinary business and people

[5:29:37] had already been fired and

[5:29:40] gotten rid of a long time ago,

[5:29:40] I think and I think

[5:29:42] one of the tools.

[5:29:43] In the toolbox that

[5:29:44] Alexander went through.

[5:29:48] Is the ability.

[5:29:49] If council would like for us to

[5:29:49] pursue more information about

[5:29:50] this is what it would take

[5:29:52] to actually, um, Transition

[5:29:54] Housing Authority to be such as

[5:29:56] an enterprise fund of the city

[5:29:58] or basically the city would

[5:30:01] maintain that fund budget, that

[5:30:02] fund control the revenues, the

[5:30:05] expenses coming in and out of

[5:30:10] the door.

[5:30:10] That would give more oversight

[5:30:11] and give us more input into

[5:30:13] those day to day internal

[5:30:16] controls with concerns to not

[5:30:16] only the work orders with what

[5:30:19] you speak of is the processing

[5:30:20] workforce, how they are

[5:30:23] handled, but also a major

[5:30:23] component of their financial

[5:30:26] operations is the rent piece.

[5:30:27] And in we we have many examples

[5:30:29] of how there's a significant

[5:30:33] amount of confusion and how

[5:30:36] rents are applied and and how

[5:30:39] payments are applied to

[5:30:42] individual accounts that make

[5:30:43] it very difficult for not only

[5:30:46] the tenants to understand what

[5:30:47] their balances are, but even

[5:30:50] from the outside looking in the

[5:30:51] city of Greenville, being

[5:30:53] able to understand those.

[5:30:53] That's why that's that's

[5:30:55] ability is in the state law is

[5:30:57] to allow the city to have more

[5:31:00] oversight into the financial

[5:31:00] operations, and if it would

[5:31:03] be the will of the council, we

[5:31:05] would we would look further

[5:31:08] into that and see what that

[5:31:10] would look like.

[5:31:11] I'd like to go in and just look

[5:31:11] and see what the problems are.

[5:31:12] I mean, we know what the

[5:31:15] symptoms are, but what causes

[5:31:19] those symptoms?

[5:31:20] I mean, you know, get in there.

[5:31:21] And I'm like, did you have a

[5:31:21] protocol for addressing, uh,

[5:31:22] complaints that the

[5:31:25] tenants knew about?

[5:31:27] And then once it would receive,

[5:31:28] what happened to that complaint?

[5:31:29] Who was it delivered

[5:31:30] to to get remedied?

[5:31:33] And third, if there was a money

[5:31:33] issue, how do you

[5:31:35] deal with that?

[5:31:35] I mean, because from what I,

[5:31:36] I MAY be wrong about this.

[5:31:37] It doesn't sound

[5:31:39] like any report.

[5:31:40] We don't have enough money

[5:31:41] to fix all these issues.

[5:31:43] That's why we hadn't fixed them.

[5:31:44] And that's where it's

[5:31:45] unsettling to have hud come in

[5:31:46] and say, we were one step away

[5:31:49] from from freezing and taking

[5:31:50] away all your capital funds,

[5:31:53] which I don't want to believe

[5:31:53] was up to the tune

[5:31:55] of like 5.5 million.

[5:31:55] Yeah, it was, and

[5:31:57] that's embarrassing.

[5:31:58] You know, we're not the

[5:32:00] one that's doing it, but.

[5:32:02] We.

[5:32:02] Have oversight.

[5:32:03] This is not a big.

[5:32:04] Spreadsheet full of new.

[5:32:08] Nickels and Penny.

[5:32:09] Not just for.

[5:32:10] A practical standpoint.

[5:32:10] You know, if I were in the

[5:32:11] private business and had 714

[5:32:12] units as a landlord, I

[5:32:15] mean, that's a lot of units.

[5:32:19] And you got to be organized.

[5:32:20] You would have a mechanism to

[5:32:21] collect the rents and have a

[5:32:23] way to deal with the complaints.

[5:32:24] Otherwise, your tenants, you

[5:32:24] lose business because you're

[5:32:25] tenants that were in the

[5:32:28] real world could leave and go

[5:32:31] somewhere else.

[5:32:31] But these tenants don't

[5:32:32] have that financial ability.

[5:32:32] Now to interject real quick,

[5:32:34] um, because, uh, unless I

[5:32:34] appreciate everything you

[5:32:37] just said, because you have

[5:32:38] described everything that I've

[5:32:40] been dealing with for the last

[5:32:41] two and a half years, and, um,

[5:32:43] and that that is more than 714

[5:32:46] units, that's 714 families that

[5:32:48] have been, most of them living

[5:32:55] in substandard conditions.

[5:32:56] And we do not have

[5:32:57] answers about financials.

[5:32:59] There has not been a lot of

[5:33:02] transparency as it relates to

[5:33:03] your question about

[5:33:06] the work order process.

[5:33:06] I've been questioning

[5:33:09] that for over two years.

[5:33:12] It is a paper process.

[5:33:13] Um, the citizens fill out a

[5:33:14] paper form that goes into some

[5:33:20] kind of abyss and, um.

[5:33:23] A black box.

[5:33:25] That's why.

[5:33:26] That's right.

[5:33:27] They do not get a, uh, any type

[5:33:27] of written confirmation that

[5:33:31] the form was received.

[5:33:32] That gives any timeline of how

[5:33:33] things might be remedied, and

[5:33:35] then any follow up to

[5:33:38] see if it was done.

[5:33:39] You know, to, uh, any

[5:33:42] satisfaction or if it was

[5:33:43] brought back up to

[5:33:46] standard or code.

[5:33:49] Um, in addition to that, there

[5:33:50] is a great deal of

[5:33:52] fear factor there.

[5:33:53] Uh, we're dealing with, uh,

[5:33:55] some of the and I would say

[5:33:56] the, uh, people on the lowest

[5:33:59] socioeconomic rung of the

[5:34:00] ladder in our community, um,

[5:34:03] that has been aiding in the

[5:34:04] process of us dealing with

[5:34:07] homelessness in our community,

[5:34:08] because when when these

[5:34:11] families lose housing, they

[5:34:16] don't have anywhere else to go.

[5:34:17] That's why I've been

[5:34:19] so passionate about it.

[5:34:21] Um, and so we have got to

[5:34:23] take the reins in some type

[5:34:25] of fashion because people are

[5:34:26] struggling and suffering

[5:34:29] families and children, when we

[5:34:31] talk about the crime rate and

[5:34:34] things that we're experiencing

[5:34:35] in our community, that

[5:34:38] is a byproduct of that.

[5:34:41] That's a byproduct of that.

[5:34:42] When they're when they're

[5:34:43] housing and food insecure and

[5:34:46] living in these conditions.

[5:34:47] I've taken Michael out.

[5:34:48] Um, the in 2024, I realized

[5:34:49] that I was putting so many

[5:34:52] hours every week into answering

[5:34:55] housing authority calls that me

[5:34:58] just sharing information

[5:35:01] was not going to work, so I

[5:35:01] personally started pointing

[5:35:04] them to the city so that city

[5:35:06] management would feel

[5:35:09] what I was feeling.

[5:35:10] And this is where how we got to

[5:35:11] this place, because all of us

[5:35:13] have been putting in work

[5:35:16] monthly that other people are

[5:35:19] getting paid for.

[5:35:20] And I would complain about that.

[5:35:21] Yes, because it has

[5:35:23] taken a lot of my time.

[5:35:24] But what hurts me the most is

[5:35:26] that I know from what I have

[5:35:28] seen and felt, and so have

[5:35:31] council, um, Council Member

[5:35:33] Jones, that these people are

[5:35:36] struggling and suffering and

[5:35:40] oftentimes inhumane conditions.

[5:35:41] And yes, there's a limited

[5:35:42] amount of capital improvement

[5:35:44] funds that are

[5:35:47] allocated each year.

[5:35:48] However, if you're very

[5:35:49] intentional in how you use

[5:35:53] capital improvement funds.

[5:35:54] Then you can fix

[5:35:55] things in a rotation,

[5:35:56] fix a certain number of units,

[5:35:58] move in, or move people into

[5:36:04] those units.

[5:36:05] Fix the next section of units.

[5:36:06] If things have been managed in

[5:36:07] some type of, uh, fashion with

[5:36:12] some level of intent.

[5:36:12] I think we would at least

[5:36:13] be in a better place.

[5:36:14] We might not be in an ideal

[5:36:17] position, but we would be in a

[5:36:18] lot better position

[5:36:21] than what we're in now.

[5:36:23] And this is not right.

[5:36:25] What goes on in the Housing

[5:36:25] Authority impacts

[5:36:26] the entire community.

[5:36:29] And so we have a responsibility.

[5:36:32] And I'm saying this to everyone.

[5:36:33] I ask them to do this overview,

[5:36:33] because I want all of us to be

[5:36:35] abreast on what's going on

[5:36:38] and what our citizens are

[5:36:39] struggling and suffering

[5:36:42] through, but you hear every

[5:36:45] single point in your questions.

[5:36:47] So with that being said,

[5:36:49] Councilmember Forman's Comments.

[5:36:51] I would ask council if didn't

[5:36:52] the thumbs up for half of our

[5:36:53] Financial services department

[5:36:56] research further what it would

[5:36:58] what it would look like with it

[5:37:01] into for the AlphaTauri to be

[5:37:02] an enterprise fund and as a

[5:37:05] part of that would probably be

[5:37:06] a very strong financial review,

[5:37:08] not only of their finances, but

[5:37:10] also of their procedures, their

[5:37:13] internal controls, are they not

[5:37:14] only to work orders, but also

[5:37:16] to the application of rent

[5:37:20] payments as well?

[5:37:21] I would like to see the

[5:37:21] financial audit and also a

[5:37:22] critical analysis of their

[5:37:24] operating procedures.

[5:37:27] That and that MAY require.

[5:37:28] We'll we'll direct our our

[5:37:29] chief financial officer Jacob

[5:37:30] Joiner to to start putting the

[5:37:32] thoughts together what that

[5:37:35] would look like.

[5:37:36] It MAY require an outside

[5:37:36] review of the of the financial

[5:37:38] statements and the

[5:37:41] internal controls.

[5:37:42] But I think this is the you

[5:37:43] know, I will echo

[5:37:44] those of the council.

[5:37:45] I think we've got an obligation

[5:37:46] to the citizens of those

[5:37:47] communities because first and

[5:37:50] foremost, they're they're not.

[5:37:51] They're not citizens of

[5:37:53] the Housing Authority.

[5:37:54] They're they're

[5:37:55] sent by the city.

[5:37:56] Absolutely. That's

[5:37:57] where we're here.

[5:37:58] So we owe the same amount of

[5:37:59] due diligence for for those

[5:38:02] individuals as we

[5:38:05] do anyone else.

[5:38:05] And that would be the first

[5:38:07] step to bring back an overview

[5:38:10] of what that would look like.

[5:38:11] The council.

[5:38:12] Thank you.

[5:38:12] If you give a thumbs up.

[5:38:13] Yeah.

[5:38:14] Had a good one.

[5:38:16] Oh, absolutely.

[5:38:17] Okay.

[5:38:18] All right.

[5:38:20] We will move on

[5:38:20] to the next item.

[5:38:21] We have a second item is a

[5:38:23] code enforcement update of the

[5:38:24] internet over to

[5:38:27] City manager domain.

[5:38:30] Okay.

[5:38:31] I thought that was posted.

[5:38:34] Nope.

[5:38:35] Switch it out.

[5:38:36] Oh, it's going down right.

[5:38:37] All right, so as the manager,

[5:38:38] Callahan said, this will be an

[5:38:41] update on our code enforcement.

[5:38:43] And so just some background

[5:38:44] staff last came to you all in

[5:38:47] MAY to talk about a new

[5:38:50] direction for our Code

[5:38:51] Enforcement division, and laid

[5:38:54] out a plan of action in terms

[5:38:59] of what that would look like.

[5:38:59] Simply based on Council's

[5:39:00] goals and priorities that are

[5:39:04] enumerated here.

[5:39:04] Proactively enhancing

[5:39:05] our community engagement.

[5:39:06] Most importantly, building

[5:39:08] a thriving and attractive

[5:39:08] community by creating

[5:39:10] meaningful access to

[5:39:11] affordable, habitable, and

[5:39:12] quality housing for all

[5:39:13] citizens, and then make

[5:39:15] Greenville a destination

[5:39:16] community in place for

[5:39:18] all people to call home.

[5:39:18] So, like I said, moving forward

[5:39:20] with those those goals and

[5:39:23] priorities in mind.

[5:39:24] Um, we presented a, an action

[5:39:24] plan to you all that was

[5:39:26] essentially based upon

[5:39:29] three, three prongs proactive

[5:39:30] compliance and enforcement,

[5:39:33] outreach and education, and

[5:39:36] then case management.

[5:39:37] So really working towards

[5:39:38] getting to a place where we are

[5:39:38] consistently addressing our

[5:39:40] minimum housing issues, um,

[5:39:44] throughout the city.

[5:39:45] So this is just

[5:39:45] the three prongs.

[5:39:49] Um, within that proposed action

[5:39:52] plan came some short term goals.

[5:39:52] Um, focus on evaluating our

[5:39:54] city ordinances, building out

[5:39:55] and implementation of updated

[5:39:57] technology solutions, training

[5:39:59] and development, some

[5:40:01] outreach and engagement.

[5:40:04] And then we saw some

[5:40:04] opportunity for

[5:40:05] council direction.

[5:40:06] Um, additionally, we had some

[5:40:08] long term goals that came along

[5:40:09] with the plan of action, uh, to

[5:40:12] really get us to a place where

[5:40:12] we were evaluating our

[5:40:15] resources and being able to

[5:40:16] make informed decisions and

[5:40:17] getting in a consistent cycle

[5:40:19] of us, um, evaluating

[5:40:21] our processes.

[5:40:24] So we are back today to talk

[5:40:25] about how we have moved our

[5:40:31] action plan forward.

[5:40:32] Um, in terms of the case

[5:40:33] management piece with our

[5:40:34] technology, we have completed

[5:40:35] our evaluation of our city code

[5:40:39] of ordinances.

[5:40:40] We are looking at moving

[5:40:40] forward with our

[5:40:41] outreach and engagement.

[5:40:42] Um, and we have also

[5:40:43] implemented a, um, an

[5:40:44] additional initiative really

[5:40:47] focused on vacant and abandoned

[5:40:47] structures and being able

[5:40:49] to overlay those with public

[5:40:50] safety issues to be able to

[5:40:53] start cases and move those

[5:40:54] along to clean up some of

[5:40:56] the blight in the community.

[5:40:56] So first and foremost, with our

[5:40:58] case management piece, one of

[5:41:01] the biggest pieces of this

[5:41:04] is the the technology piece.

[5:41:05] Um, and so we have, like

[5:41:07] I said, move forward with

[5:41:11] evaluating that.

[5:41:12] I do have, um, William

[5:41:12] Mills who is in the room.

[5:41:15] He is our assistant director.

[5:41:17] Uh, with our community and

[5:41:18] development services department.

[5:41:18] And he has worked very closely

[5:41:19] with our teams in the use of

[5:41:24] Inner Grove.

[5:41:25] We've got a system internally

[5:41:26] that we use called Inner Grove.

[5:41:26] Um, to really get that to

[5:41:28] a place where it is, um,

[5:41:30] enhanced, our

[5:41:33] workflows are updated.

[5:41:35] Um, what have you.

[5:41:36] I'm going to switch

[5:41:36] to the next slide.

[5:41:37] Yeah, to the back.

[5:41:37] Sure. Okay.

[5:41:38] All right.

[5:41:39] So make sure our

[5:41:39] workflows are updated.

[5:41:40] And then really being able to

[5:41:40] implement some Automation for

[5:41:42] those system functions to

[5:41:45] create more effectiveness

[5:41:45] amongst our teams

[5:41:47] and more efficiency.

[5:41:48] Along with this came the

[5:41:49] deployment of tablets that our

[5:41:51] officers are now able to use

[5:41:54] in the field to initiate cases

[5:41:54] versus them having to come back

[5:41:57] to the office and really do

[5:42:00] that administrative piece.

[5:42:01] They're not able to do all of

[5:42:01] that in the field, start the

[5:42:02] case, take the pictures, log

[5:42:03] any necessary information in

[5:42:07] terms of contact, what have you.

[5:42:08] Like I said, on site

[5:42:09] with with the violation.

[5:42:10] Um, another important piece

[5:42:12] that comes with case management

[5:42:13] management is the

[5:42:15] reporting piece.

[5:42:16] And so I do want to acknowledge

[5:42:17] that the request that council

[5:42:17] made in MAY, um, for you all

[5:42:19] to be able to receive monthly

[5:42:21] reports as it relates to all

[5:42:24] of our cases in the system.

[5:42:25] Um, and so we have moved

[5:42:28] forward with some significant

[5:42:28] data cleanup in terms of

[5:42:31] our inner Grove system.

[5:42:31] Um, and then recognizing that

[5:42:33] that is the reporting is really

[5:42:35] tied to us getting up

[5:42:38] and running efficiently.

[5:42:38] Um, and so I do know that the

[5:42:41] team has had meetings today and

[5:42:42] within the last week with Inner

[5:42:45] Growth to really get those

[5:42:46] workflows written, how they

[5:42:47] should be written, and be able

[5:42:48] to get to a place where we are

[5:42:50] implementing those so we can

[5:42:51] get to consistent case

[5:42:54] management and reporting.

[5:42:54] Um, this is just a snapshot

[5:42:56] in time of reporting.

[5:42:57] Like I said, we last

[5:42:59] came to you all in MAY.

[5:43:00] Um, and so I want to point

[5:43:01] out the JUNE and JULY piece in

[5:43:04] terms of the minimum housing,

[5:43:06] and that there has been a

[5:43:07] significant increase in terms

[5:43:10] of the caseloads as it relates

[5:43:14] to that particular case type.

[5:43:15] And that is really attributable

[5:43:16] to, um, three instances, one

[5:43:18] being what I mentioned earlier

[5:43:21] with the Housing Authority, and

[5:43:22] that notice we got from hud,

[5:43:24] where we did a full court press

[5:43:25] to start cases, um, on

[5:43:27] all units within certain

[5:43:31] neighborhoods that were

[5:43:32] identified within

[5:43:32] that hud report.

[5:43:33] Um, and so that has

[5:43:34] led to a large influx.

[5:43:35] Um, one of the other points in

[5:43:38] time is the vacant abandoned

[5:43:39] structure piece that

[5:43:42] I mentioned earlier.

[5:43:43] And so we have taken, um, about

[5:43:44] 70 or 80 properties, and we

[5:43:46] have overlaid those with public

[5:43:49] safety calls for service to be

[5:43:50] able to prioritize, um, those

[5:43:53] particular units throughout the

[5:43:54] community, um, that we can run

[5:43:57] through the, the processes.

[5:43:58] And like I said, it's

[5:44:01] tied to public safety.

[5:44:02] So it's beyond just being

[5:44:03] a minimum housing issue.

[5:44:03] We're now talking about,

[5:44:05] um, breaking and entering.

[5:44:08] We're talking about, um, drug

[5:44:08] issues, just just

[5:44:10] criminal activity.

[5:44:11] Um, that unfortunately, is

[5:44:12] continuing to perpetuate the

[5:44:16] blight in the community.

[5:44:17] Um, one of the other things is

[5:44:17] we had a lot of activity around

[5:44:21] Club Way.

[5:44:21] Um, a lot of those cases

[5:44:22] have now been closed out.

[5:44:23] Um, the three major cases that

[5:44:25] are outstanding with that are

[5:44:26] the units in which required

[5:44:29] some additional, um, activity

[5:44:29] in terms of bracing those

[5:44:32] particular properties.

[5:44:33] And they're currently going

[5:44:35] through construction, um, to be

[5:44:36] able to repair those particular

[5:44:39] units so we can get people back

[5:44:42] in them.

[5:44:43] Um, so one of the other

[5:44:44] components for our plan of

[5:44:48] action was proactive and

[5:44:51] consistent enforcement.

[5:44:51] Um, and so with that came the

[5:44:53] need to evaluate all of our

[5:44:57] code related ordinances.

[5:44:59] So we looked at minimum housing.

[5:44:59] We looked at

[5:45:00] nonresidential structures.

[5:45:01] We looked at, um, everything

[5:45:02] across the board to determine

[5:45:05] where we could gain time.

[5:45:06] Um, and so that has now been

[5:45:07] completed, and we are planning

[5:45:09] to come back to you all in

[5:45:12] SEPTEMBER proposing adoption

[5:45:16] for that.

[5:45:16] Um, so I want to talk through

[5:45:17] some of those, um, components

[5:45:18] related to that

[5:45:21] particular, um, initiative.

[5:45:21] And so overall, this these are

[5:45:24] really going to highlight the

[5:45:25] major, um, things we evaluated

[5:45:27] and what we're proposing to

[5:45:31] change in front of you all.

[5:45:32] You do have a notebook that

[5:45:33] contains all of the proposed

[5:45:34] changes, um, that you can can

[5:45:36] review at your leisure, um, and

[5:45:38] be able to provide any

[5:45:41] feedback that you might have.

[5:45:42] Like I said, with us proposing

[5:45:43] adoption, um, at you all

[5:45:47] SEPTEMBER meeting.

[5:45:49] Um, so we did general cleanup.

[5:45:50] We had to verify we were

[5:45:50] in alignment with our North

[5:45:54] Carolina General Statutes.

[5:45:55] You'll see an update to the

[5:45:56] structure for civil penalties

[5:46:00] related to code enforcement

[5:46:00] cases, updates to

[5:46:01] some timelines.

[5:46:02] In some places, we were able

[5:46:03] to reduce the some timelines.

[5:46:04] Some places we had to extend

[5:46:06] the timeline just based on

[5:46:09] statutory law.

[5:46:09] Um, we are proposing an

[5:46:10] implementation of a 48 hour

[5:46:11] life safety repair policy, and

[5:46:13] we evaluated the determination

[5:46:15] of unfit for human habitation

[5:46:19] and what that that would look

[5:46:21] like moving forward.

[5:46:23] And then last but not least,

[5:46:23] the implementation

[5:46:24] of a mold protocol.

[5:46:25] And that would be specific

[5:46:27] to an internal practice.

[5:46:31] That's not something that would

[5:46:33] be written out in the ordinance.

[5:46:34] So that would be something

[5:46:35] staff would would

[5:46:36] be implementing.

[5:46:38] Um, like I said, just based off

[5:46:38] an internal standard

[5:46:39] operating procedure.

[5:46:41] Um, these are all the, the

[5:46:42] codes and the sections

[5:46:43] that we evaluated.

[5:46:44] And like I said, in their

[5:46:45] totality, anything related to

[5:46:48] code enforcement issues.

[5:46:49] Um, and so first component,

[5:46:50] when we looked at the alignment

[5:46:53] with the North Carolina General

[5:46:55] Statutes, first and foremost,

[5:46:59] chronic violators.

[5:46:59] So what chronic violators

[5:47:00] provides for is that if we're

[5:47:00] giving notice to the same

[5:47:02] property owner, same property,

[5:47:03] at least three times within the

[5:47:06] same 12 month period, we can

[5:47:07] designate that individual

[5:47:10] or that property owner as a

[5:47:12] chronic violator.

[5:47:13] We're moving forward.

[5:47:14] We're only required to

[5:47:15] give notice, and then we're

[5:47:15] permitted to abate the property

[5:47:17] and bring it into compliance.

[5:47:18] Um, previously it was written

[5:47:20] out that we had to actually

[5:47:21] abate the the nuisance that was

[5:47:24] identified at least three times

[5:47:25] within a 12 month period

[5:47:28] prior to us deeming somebody a

[5:47:31] chronic violator.

[5:47:32] So this is a this was an

[5:47:32] opportunity for us to, to gain

[5:47:36] some time in terms of how we

[5:47:37] implement that

[5:47:38] particular process.

[5:47:40] Um, I did.

[5:47:41] Everyone's.

[5:47:41] On the same page.

[5:47:42] Can you define and

[5:47:42] describe what that is?

[5:47:43] Yes. And so typically when

[5:47:45] we're talking about a chronic

[5:47:47] violator, we are dealing

[5:47:48] with public nuisances only.

[5:47:49] So not tied to minimum housing

[5:47:51] is simply public nuisances.

[5:47:52] So issues with tall grass

[5:47:54] weeds, issues with um trash and

[5:47:58] debris or issues with junked

[5:48:01] abandoned nuisance cars

[5:48:01] typically are the types of

[5:48:04] public nuisances, um, that that

[5:48:08] we're dealing with.

[5:48:09] And so if we're talking about

[5:48:09] actually moving forward with

[5:48:10] abatement, it might mean we go

[5:48:11] out and we cut the grass, um,

[5:48:12] to bring the property

[5:48:14] back into compliance.

[5:48:15] We might go out and clean up

[5:48:16] the trash and debris that's

[5:48:19] scattered, um, over property.

[5:48:20] And so that's what we mean when

[5:48:21] we're talking about abatement

[5:48:22] under the chronic

[5:48:24] violators rules.

[5:48:25] Um, the next one on the list

[5:48:26] is dealing with the vacate

[5:48:30] enclosed dwellings.

[5:48:31] I mentioned at the beginning

[5:48:32] there were some unfortunate

[5:48:32] instances where we had to

[5:48:34] increase our timelines.

[5:48:35] Even though we were trying to

[5:48:37] gain efficiencies, but we had

[5:48:38] to be in compliance

[5:48:39] with the state law.

[5:48:40] The ordinance historically was

[5:48:41] written out that we could move

[5:48:44] forward with the process

[5:48:47] after six months of a property

[5:48:50] sitting vacant and abandoned.

[5:48:50] Statutorily, you've

[5:48:51] got to sit for a year.

[5:48:53] So that is one of the places,

[5:48:54] like I said, where we had to

[5:48:58] increase the timeline

[5:48:59] everywhere else we

[5:48:59] were able to decrease.

[5:49:00] Previously it said, um, not

[5:49:02] less than 30 days and not more

[5:49:03] than 90 for everywhere

[5:49:06] that was written out.

[5:49:06] We have now decreased the 90 to

[5:49:08] 60 days, and there still might

[5:49:09] be some flexibility just based

[5:49:12] on what the, um, on a case by

[5:49:16] case basis.

[5:49:17] But the rule, like I said, will

[5:49:18] be written out not less than 30.

[5:49:19] Um, and no more than 60 days

[5:49:19] before we would be able to move

[5:49:23] forward with, with our process.

[5:49:24] Um, methods of service was

[5:49:25] another place in which we came

[5:49:28] into alignment.

[5:49:29] A lot of places we were doing

[5:49:29] more than what we needed to do.

[5:49:30] Meaning we were requiring

[5:49:32] certified or registered mail

[5:49:33] where the statute only required

[5:49:36] personal delivery, first class

[5:49:40] mail, or posting before we

[5:49:41] could move forward

[5:49:42] with any activity.

[5:49:42] So anywhere where we were

[5:49:43] able to remove certified or

[5:49:47] registered mail.

[5:49:48] Um, we have done that.

[5:49:49] Um, and so the two I've

[5:49:50] identified here are dealing

[5:49:51] with the weeds and vegetation

[5:49:54] and then abandoned junk

[5:49:55] nuisance vehicles is where we

[5:49:56] were able to dial that back.

[5:49:59] Um, and last but not least, in

[5:50:00] terms of the appeals

[5:50:02] method and periods.

[5:50:02] Um, so we evaluated

[5:50:04] that in its entirety.

[5:50:05] And in a lot of places, we had

[5:50:07] a lot of layers and levels to

[5:50:08] the appeals process, um, that

[5:50:11] weren't necessarily reasonable.

[5:50:12] Um, and so we have dialed

[5:50:15] those back to where, um, it's a

[5:50:21] shorter period of time.

[5:50:21] I mean, because some stuff is,

[5:50:22] is is it's very clear if you've

[5:50:23] got grass that's ten inches

[5:50:25] or higher, that's very clear.

[5:50:25] There's not really room for

[5:50:27] negotiation necessarily.

[5:50:28] And so now we've got it set to

[5:50:31] where you might have 15 days to

[5:50:35] file a written appeal.

[5:50:36] And that appeal goes to

[5:50:36] the Board of Adjustment.

[5:50:37] Previously it went through the

[5:50:38] the assistant director, the

[5:50:39] director to the assistant city

[5:50:42] manager to the city manager to

[5:50:43] everybody had to had

[5:50:46] to check the box.

[5:50:47] And so we have removed that

[5:50:49] that drawn out process to, to

[5:50:50] make it easier, I think

[5:50:53] for everybody involved.

[5:50:55] Um, so I mentioned the

[5:50:55] determination of being unfit

[5:51:01] for human habitation.

[5:51:01] Historically, we have relied

[5:51:02] on property value and cost of

[5:51:03] repairs to make this

[5:51:06] particular determination.

[5:51:07] And so what we are proposing

[5:51:08] is a tiered, um, methodology

[5:51:11] wherein if you're meeting

[5:51:13] these, these certain

[5:51:15] thresholds, and the first

[5:51:17] one up there in terms of a

[5:51:18] dilapidated structure would

[5:51:20] require, um, you to meet at

[5:51:22] least one of the

[5:51:25] enumerated conditions.

[5:51:26] And those conditions listed are

[5:51:27] those that are really dealing

[5:51:29] with life safety issues.

[5:51:30] Um, so anything like

[5:51:31] threatening life safety, you

[5:51:32] only have to have one of those

[5:51:34] identified for your property to

[5:51:35] be deemed unfit for

[5:51:37] human habitation.

[5:51:37] The next layer is would be

[5:51:39] classified as a deteriorated

[5:51:40] property, wherein you would

[5:51:43] have to have seven or more of

[5:51:44] the conditions that are

[5:51:47] identified before you could

[5:51:48] designate a dwelling as

[5:51:50] being unfit for habitation.

[5:51:51] And then the last tier

[5:51:54] is, um, less than seven.

[5:51:55] So a very low, low level, um,

[5:51:58] all you've got to have is, is

[5:52:03] violations identified.

[5:52:04] And so it's not going to

[5:52:04] result in it being unfit for

[5:52:05] habitation, but it would be a

[5:52:06] violation in which you would be

[5:52:07] required to repair or be

[5:52:09] subject to civil penalties in

[5:52:11] the event you did not.

[5:52:13] Um, one of the other components

[5:52:17] is looking at our structure for

[5:52:19] civil penalties.

[5:52:21] Um, to really be able to, um,

[5:52:24] ease the implementation of this.

[5:52:25] We are proposing to go from

[5:52:26] what's currently a tiered

[5:52:30] process to a flat fee.

[5:52:30] Um, and but every day's

[5:52:32] violation would still be a

[5:52:33] separate and

[5:52:35] continuing violation.

[5:52:36] So civil penalties

[5:52:36] would still accrue.

[5:52:37] They would just be accruing at

[5:52:39] a flat fee versus you having to

[5:52:42] deal with with tiers.

[5:52:43] So better for accounting

[5:52:44] purposes, better for city staff

[5:52:44] to be able to, to keep up

[5:52:47] and be able to implement.

[5:52:48] Um, and so you see the, the

[5:52:50] tiers where we currently are.

[5:52:51] And we would go to $100

[5:52:54] per each violation.

[5:52:56] Um, and one note I will

[5:52:57] make here is this is solely

[5:53:02] applicable to code enforcement.

[5:53:03] So there will be some other

[5:53:04] places still in the code where

[5:53:06] it'll be the tiered process.

[5:53:07] Not to say we might not

[5:53:08] evaluate that in the future to

[5:53:08] to level set and make

[5:53:11] everything consistent.

[5:53:12] Um, but right now it'll just be

[5:53:13] focused on the code, um, code

[5:53:16] enforcement sections.

[5:53:18] Um, one other component we

[5:53:18] are proposing is that we would

[5:53:22] implement a 48 hour life safety

[5:53:25] repair um ordinance and it

[5:53:28] would require landlords,

[5:53:31] property managers, what have

[5:53:34] you to fix any of the

[5:53:35] identified violations

[5:53:37] within 48 hours?

[5:53:37] Um, in the event they were not

[5:53:39] resolved, they would be subject

[5:53:43] to civil penalties.

[5:53:43] Um, we have evaluated the

[5:53:44] opportunity of what it would

[5:53:48] look like for staff to abate.

[5:53:49] Um, and we are trying

[5:53:50] to stay away from that.

[5:53:51] We don't want to be in the

[5:53:54] business of being an hvac

[5:53:56] contractor or trying to to, um,

[5:53:57] be an electrician

[5:54:00] or what have you.

[5:54:00] And so the the route to go at

[5:54:01] this point in time would be us

[5:54:03] applying, like I said, civil

[5:54:06] penalties and then evaluating

[5:54:09] on a a a case by case basis.

[5:54:10] If we had to take

[5:54:10] it, take it further.

[5:54:12] Um, up to and including

[5:54:13] requiring the dwelling

[5:54:14] to be vacated.

[5:54:18] Um, so I mentioned the mold

[5:54:21] protocol at the beginning.

[5:54:22] Like I said, this will not

[5:54:23] be based in the ordnance.

[5:54:24] This will solely be something

[5:54:25] tied to standard operating

[5:54:27] procedures that our staff

[5:54:30] would implement within our code

[5:54:32] Enforcement division.

[5:54:33] We've seen an increase in

[5:54:33] complaints tied specifically to

[5:54:34] mold, and we did evaluate a

[5:54:37] lot of options in terms of what

[5:54:38] this could look like for city

[5:54:40] staff to be able to to run the

[5:54:41] ball on this, but it's it's

[5:54:44] extremely cost prohibitive for

[5:54:46] us to be able to consistently

[5:54:49] implement any type of testing

[5:54:53] and or remediation.

[5:54:53] And so what we have decided to

[5:54:54] do, or we're proposing to do,

[5:54:55] is be able to document the mold

[5:54:58] like substances that that has

[5:54:59] been identified, taking the

City Council - Aug 24th, 2026

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