[0:22] Calling this media to order its 2 p. m. August

[0:27] 25th and welcome everyone. We're going to stand for the

[0:31] Pledge of Allegiance and then a moment of silence.

[0:59] See that. Okay, now we'll have roll call. Commissioner Schaefer.

[1:06] Commissioner Elfke Commissioner Patel. Present Commissioner Diggins, Chair Whitmore. Okay,

[1:14] now. Item number three, approval of minutes for the 3A

[1:18] and 3B budget work session in the regular meeting. Would

[1:22] anybody like to make a motion? Or does anybody have

[1:25] any corrections before we do? Any corrections, anybody? And here

[1:30] I would move approval submitted of both. My second, both,

[1:34] I don't see any need to change anything. Okay, so

[1:37] we have a motion of second, any other discussion. All

[1:40] in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries, thank you. Okay,

[1:44] now we'll do commission reports. Let's start at the end,

[1:47] Terry. Okay, thanks Carol. Something kind of unusual came across

[1:55] the screen, and I thought it was relevant to know,

[1:59] and it was an article originally that. Appeared in the

[2:03] Wall Street Journal and then covered by Apple News, and

[2:07] it had to do with a city surfside beach in

[2:10] South Carolina. And it kind of struck a nerve in

[2:13] that this city had engaged in a contract with a

[2:17] local contractor. The work had been done, and it was

[2:19] time for payment, and there had been communication. Between the

[2:24] public works director and the contractor. Well, that was all

[2:29] well and fine, and they were working out the details

[2:32] of final payment. So what occurred that caught my attention

[2:38] and brought it to my attention into Julie's was what

[2:43] kind of coverage do we have for cyber fraud. In

[2:48] that what occurred was through fishing. And it very crafty

[2:53] individual picked up on those emails between contractor and city

[3:00] and sent and made a very minor modification that the

[3:03] Most Highs would not have detected. Sending instructions to wire

[3:07] transfer the 545, 598 dollars in 30 cents. To an

[3:14] account that had nothing to do with the legitimate contract.

[3:18] So what resulted was just out of curiosity, I mean,

[3:24] normally this is covered in amendment A coverage in a

[3:29] general bond. Or through Arizona. So I sent the article

[3:35] to Julie. Julie did the research with our insurer. And

[3:39] to everyone's, I think, approval and appreciation. We do have

[3:44] that coverage. In fact, in place that would prevent it,

[3:48] could it have been detected perhaps there wasn't as much

[3:53] detail in the scrutiny of the request for payment, but

[3:57] nonetheless, the important part is for us. To insurance. It's

[4:04] called Fidelity Insurance. And I spent a couple years doing

[4:09] that before my banking career, and that's why the article

[4:13] caught my eye the first time. So the good news

[4:16] is we have coverage, should it ever occur to us,

[4:20] but it's in place. And we are protected. The other

[4:28] item I wanted to refer to is amendment three, and

[4:32] just disclose I've had some conversations with Randy and with

[4:38] Judy regarding the city, taking a position opposing amendment three.

[4:47] And I think after a lot of thought I have

[4:51] questioned the League of Cities to determine whether they're aware

[4:55] of any cities elsewhere in the state that have approved

[5:01] either by consensus or by resolution and opposition, that we've

[5:08] played phone tag back and forth with them. So I

[5:12] don't know that that's the case. But at this point

[5:14] in time, I don't think it's the time to take

[5:16] a position. And I think I will be writing an

[5:21] article. Personally. Which we're entitled to do because no dollars

[5:26] are expended on behalf of the city to state, at

[5:30] least my opinion, of the subject. And I would encourage

[5:33] other members to give that some thought and decide what

[5:37] they believe is the best position for them to take.

[5:41] Terry, that's a good idea. I know Joe McClash used

[5:45] to do that quite a bit, at the end he

[5:47] would sign his name and say me as a personal

[5:50] commissioner. Right. So yeah, that would be great. Though. Okay.

[5:55] Well, I encourage others to give that some thought as

[5:58] well, because I do think. The reason I thought it

[6:02] was important is. I think it would be helpful for

[6:06] our constituency to know where we stand. And we don't

[6:09] speak for the Commission. We'll be speaking for ourselves individually

[6:14] on the subject, and that it's going to be, I

[6:17] think, a pretty controversial issue. And I've tried to keep

[6:20] up with the commentary on primarily next door and others.

[6:26] And it's pretty evenly distributed between those who favor and

[6:30] those who oppose at this point in time, and we'll

[6:34] get into the facts in our own letters. Next subject

[6:38] is the police pension board. And I direct you two,

[6:45] it's in your packet in section four. The reports speak

[6:51] for themselves for both the past police pension board meeting,

[6:56] which was way back on July 15th. But in your

[7:00] packet, if you'd go to section four, I'm going to

[7:04] do something. This time that I haven't done before. I've

[7:09] offered the full report to any who want to see

[7:12] it, but there's two, I think, salient pages that are

[7:16] kind of summary. In nature. And that, again, this is

[7:23] a 16 million dollar line item that does not appear.

[7:26] On our financial statements. It's exclusively for the benefit of

[7:32] future retirement benefits for a police officer. So it's not

[7:36] on our financial statements as a city and municipality. So

[7:40] the first page, you see the pie charts. Is everybody

[7:43] there? It's in section four. I'll wait till you get

[7:48] there. So it went up a million and a half

[7:56] in value. In three months. I'll get to that. I

[8:02] need to know that investment guy. We're pretty well. The

[8:07] fund is very, very well advised by legal and administrative

[8:13] and certainly management. So the first page where the pie

[8:17] charts is simply a comparison over on the left of

[8:21] where the fund was in dollars and the pie chart

[8:24] gets down to which segments, those segments are delineated. On

[8:30] the bottom line items to tell you what those segments

[8:33] are of the entire portfolio. As Dana said, three months

[8:40] later, the latest report, June 30. So this represents three

[8:45] quarters of the physical year since September 30 is the

[8:50] physical year for us and certainly the fun. So yes,

[8:53] an increase from 14, 00789 to 16, 0122. More importantly,

[9:00] is a breakdown on the next page. Numbered at the

[9:03] bottom, page 22 of 119. And it'll give you kind

[9:07] of a reiteration in the first column. It gives you

[9:11] the line items or where the money is invested. In

[9:14] the totals. The net transfers, meaning interfund transfers, not new

[9:20] money, but buys and cells, where the money. What was

[9:25] sold and what was reinvested. Most importantly, contributions. The third

[9:30] column, you can see the 241, 000, 936 is the

[9:34] total dollars. From three sources primarily the city's contribution, but

[9:39] also police officers contribute six percent of their salary to

[9:45] this fund and the state. Offers some assistance. It had

[9:51] been averaging about Julie's not here, but Judy, you might

[9:55] remember about 46, under 50 for many, many years this

[10:00] year, I think. It bumped up to 62 or 63,

[10:04] 000 from the state. Part of which goes to the

[10:08] fund. So, um, the others are distributions, meaning through the

[10:15] first nine months of the year, 150, 000, 205 have

[10:19] been paid out to our former officers, management fees, in

[10:23] total, uh, that would include all sources. Including legal. So

[10:29] the cost of the very highly qualified, I believe, advisors

[10:35] of this fund. Is really pretty minimal when you're considering

[10:39] a 16 million dollar fund. Other expenses for 38, 000,

[10:45] that could be a myriad of expenses allowed by. And

[10:48] these are all paid out of the funds, not in

[10:50] addition to the city. Um, Advilum tax. And then return

[10:56] on investments, you can see obviously amounted for a million

[11:01] two hundred eighty three thousand of that pretty substantial increase.

[11:05] And we were just the beneficiary of a rising tide

[11:08] and market. And in my opinion, a very well -

[11:12] managed fund, again, ending with a total balance. Again, we're

[11:18] almost three months, at least two months. Uh, away from

[11:22] this. So at the time at June 30, again, the

[11:26] 16, 122, 000 dollar fund balance then. So I just

[11:31] thought it just fried a little extra time. I know

[11:35] not many want to take the entire report and read

[11:37] it. Uh, we do go over at every meeting. And

[11:40] I would encourage other members. Really get, again, it's not

[11:46] part of budgeting. It's not our responsibility. And we are

[11:50] told by the actuary what we have to. So it's

[11:53] not a discretionary issue when it comes to our budget.

[11:57] The actuary determines based on five year, uh, five year

[12:01] planning. And the good news is we have been on

[12:06] the higher side of our contributions. They have been raising

[12:09] and they did again for this current year, but it

[12:12] looks like, and we are hearing from the actuary that

[12:15] the trend line is going to be down. Uh, or

[12:17] the next five years because of, uh, operating results. So

[12:23] again, it's City funds, but earmark exclusively for our police

[12:32] officers'retirement, which has been, I think, a key. I think

[12:37] Chief, I've heard him say, I'm sure he'd repeat, one

[12:41] of the key elements in recruiting and retaining the best

[12:44] officers. Are available at the time when additions are replacements

[12:48] have to be made. Any questions on that. Yeah, Terry,

[12:56] does management fee item? Does that include both the legal

[13:00] and the investment part? Yes. That's pretty reasonable. Yeah. You

[13:06] know, I attended a couple of those meetings with you.

[13:09] Pretty impressive. I think it'd be good to continue attending

[13:12] this, Dan. Thank you, Tarek. You know. Okay. Um, Steve,

[13:19] do you have any? Well, I've got, I've got just

[13:21] a couple more things here. I'll definitely, May. And again,

[13:23] the Clean Water Committee, I don't want to, um, I

[13:27] don't really have any additional comments. But the Clean Water

[13:31] Committee from the last meeting, they meet again. Um, I

[13:35] think September, uh, 11. And then I hope everybody read

[13:43] it. Mark Church was interviewed. And I really appreciate and

[13:49] respect the honesty and his outing for, um, starm cleanup.

[13:57] He was very, uh, honest in his assessment of their

[14:01] city. And, uh, and I think I hope those who

[14:06] are somewhat critical of our city two years ago read

[14:11] that. Although we took some hits because we weren't as

[14:16] quick to respond. And so we got, um, our feed

[14:20] under us and knew we were a hundred percent in

[14:23] compliance with FEMA. But it's going to result in, I

[14:26] believe. And again, I didn't get a chance to ask

[14:28] Julie. I think Judy, you may know, I think we're

[14:31] going to recover either 97 or 98 percent. Of our

[14:35] full cost of restoration costs by virtue of the path

[14:40] we took. To get the work done. And it wasn't

[14:46] just for the debris removal. You know, we kept our

[14:49] state of emergency open so we can continue even over

[14:53] time of staff. And we had to use subcontractor. What's

[15:01] his name? Joe Payne. Yeah, we had third party inspectors.

[15:05] We're getting reimbursed for everything that it cost us to

[15:08] recover. So yeah, and I commend staff, all the training,

[15:15] it helped. And they were there and they were committed

[15:17] and everything was documented. So it really helped home speech.

[15:21] It did. Again, I really appreciate Mark's approach to this

[15:25] of taking the bull by the horns and earning from

[15:28] it and going forward. I think it indication of his

[15:31] honesty and value to their community. Yeah, Mark's doing a

[15:34] great job. And Mayor, from what I read too, they

[15:38] weren't, well, we always heard that they were not going

[15:41] to be compliant because they didn't go through the vendors,

[15:45] like the approved vendors. And is that kind of what

[15:47] I was reading that there's still a shortfall and they're

[15:50] not sure how they're going to get it because of

[15:51] that. They did not have pre - awarded contracts. They

[15:55] use local guys to remove their debris. And they also

[16:00] did not have the monitoring company, which is the other

[16:03] thing you have to have pre - awarded. You have

[16:04] to document where the trash came from where the debris

[16:08] came from to make sure it actually came from your

[16:10] city. So they had to follow the trucks. That's why

[16:13] you had different people sitting everywhere throughout the city as

[16:17] they were monitoring every truck, every truck had to be

[16:19] pre - weighed. It had to have a number on

[16:21] it. Everything was tracked. So, I mean, the paperwork is

[16:26] incredible in order to get rid of this from FEMA.

[16:29] And they also did not have a DEP approved debris

[16:34] site. We always kept ours. We've always had the approaches.

[16:40] We've always kept it. Um, up to date. And they

[16:42] just used bayfront park and it was not. I mean,

[16:47] it was. We knew we did it right. I hoped

[16:51] they were going to get reimbursed because their sister City.

[16:54] But yeah, that was pretty hard. Can you explain why

[16:59] we had to dump it here and then move it

[17:02] a second time? Is that part? Because the landfill was

[17:07] an hour and a half away. And for the truck

[17:10] to fill up and then take an hour and a

[17:13] half trip and wait in line to dump, it would

[17:17] have taken forever to get it off the streets. So

[17:20] you do a debris field so they can take short

[17:23] trips, get it out of the people's neighborhoods, dump it

[17:25] here. And then they crush it and it's less trucks

[17:29] going to the landfill. So there was a logical reason.

[17:32] There's an all science behind it. If smaller storms and

[17:36] if it's mainly just branches and things will, you know,

[17:41] you can maybe take the time to, um, drive it.

[17:44] But the bigger storms you tend to open up a

[17:46] degree. Site. Thank you. Years ago when we dredged all

[17:51] the canals in the city, we did the same. With

[17:54] the ball field. We dewatered it. Cause then that then

[17:58] it went to the landfill. They didn't charge us for

[18:00] any dumping fees. But we let it sit for a

[18:03] while. I think you have to all the time, don't

[18:05] you know? No, they do it in bags. Oh, they

[18:07] do. Oh, okay. That's new. Okay. Yeah. I feel bad.

[18:12] Um, you know, Mayor's short inherited what the actions were

[18:18] in the past. But you know, everybody was trying to

[18:21] do what they could do. And we just hope that

[18:23] they can get some money back. I'm sure we all

[18:25] feel that way. Right. I think our patients paid off.

[18:28] Right. Yeah. That's all I have, Carol. Thank you. Steve.

[18:32] Yeah. Um, so next week waste pro is going to

[18:35] be kind of auditing around the city, um, cans that

[18:41] are supposed to be side door service, making sure that

[18:43] that's all still accurate. Um, if there are any concerns

[18:46] about side door service, um, JT asked for people to

[18:51] reach out to code compliance so they can get involved.

[18:54] Um, they're also code compliance JT's team is going to

[18:58] be focusing on, um, house numbers and addresses. They really

[19:03] need to get everybody, you know. Properly identified for safety.

[19:09] First responders and for even for making sure even with

[19:13] Waze Pro and making sure they have the right. House

[19:17] for the right services of Worth. Um. They also, um,

[19:23] came up with the new. Signs for, and I was

[19:28] just given this. Maybe you might be able to help.

[19:31] Make sure I'm correct with this. For the beach ends.

[19:35] They're going to be wrapping the trash can. So I

[19:37] think this may be on the trash. Is it a

[19:40] wrap or is it just a sticker? Might be just

[19:42] a sticker. I think the trash cans are going to

[19:44] be identified by a new color. They're going to be

[19:47] brown with a blue top. And those are going to

[19:49] be specific to the beach ends. So they know which

[19:52] ones are theirs. Um, and then those are going to

[19:54] be stickers that go on them. Unplastic your life.

[20:06] And then this is a cool Bigfoot one that says,

[20:09] leave no trace. Another good message. That resonates with the

[20:15] current popularity of Bigfoot these days, I guess. Um. I

[20:20] love Bigfoot. Yeah. And I did ask JT and I

[20:24] ended up communicate with Jason about the sea turtle disorientation.

[20:29] Originally, I thought it was Holmes Beach because I think

[20:31] they put it in the press of his home speech,

[20:32] but it was actually in Bradenton Beach. Um, so glad

[20:36] you brought that up. I was really surprised to see.

[20:40] Yeah. No. And basically they said of the hundred and

[20:44] so many, um, disoriented hatchlings found only five have been

[20:49] in home speech. Um, so, and because I thought about

[20:52] Jason when I heard that, I knew that that was

[20:54] really close to his, you know, heart and to put

[20:58] a lot of, and puts a lot of work into,

[21:00] um, staying in touch with Kristen with turtle watch and

[21:05] spending, you know, he and Alison go out and monitor

[21:08] the beach. And do what they can. Uh, he did

[21:11] indicate that they are working towards, um, working with FPL

[21:14] to try to get them to put more amber colored

[21:18] street lights for the LEDs that are up. It's just

[21:20] very costly. So they're kind of working through that and

[21:23] mentioned something about. I think they're tried to, maybe FBL

[21:26] was doing it. It's trying to get a grants. To

[21:28] help with the fun. They're cause difference. They can even

[21:32] more amber lights closer to the beach. Um, that's all

[21:36] I had. Thank. You. Yes. Um, I went to the

[21:42] Anna Maria Commission meeting last week. And they talked about

[21:46] side door service. Now they have waste probes well. And

[21:49] the service. They were working on an ordinance that said

[21:53] cans have to be placed at least 20 feet. Some

[21:57] number. On the road or in an enclosed area. Do

[22:02] we have anything like that? Yes. We do. And that's

[22:04] some of the auditing that they're going to be going

[22:06] out. Because if people and leaving hangers, they warn people

[22:10] if they believe, if you know, yes, you have to

[22:12] bring your cans in. And part of the service that

[22:16] they're supposed to break. That's side door service. You know,

[22:19] that's just, if you're paying extra for side door service,

[22:21] then that would be bad. Yeah. No, yes. Cydoor service,

[22:25] the ways pro. So if that's kind of the, I

[22:27] think the example that JT was giving is if you

[22:29] feel like your cans aren't being brought all the way

[22:31] back and should be, then get a hold of compliance

[22:34] because they'll go out and do it and make sure

[22:36] it stays compliant and work with waste pro to make

[22:38] sure they get it correct in their system. Had, uh,

[22:45] had a guy or duffey's. She lives on South Harbor

[22:49] by the church. And they've been trying for months and

[22:52] months and months to get the trash out of their

[22:56] front yard. I mean, the new cans, the people in

[22:59] the house next would just leave it out there. And

[23:02] finally, um, JT went and sure enough, I don't even

[23:05] think the people were paying for the side service, which

[23:09] they're supposed to if it's a short term rental. Right.

[23:11] I thought that's our law, our ordinance. You can't treat.

[23:16] Them different than anybody. Else. But most of them do.

[23:20] So I thought they had to. Okay. So anyway, I

[23:23] think it was taken care of. But he took care

[23:24] of it right away. And it's hard to make sometimes

[23:29] the guy's, you know, when they get mad, watch out.

[23:32] If you ever been to Duffy's, you know. Okay, Jessica.

[23:37] The only thing I have from the center is that

[23:39] the Greg Le Pensi Bowling tournament is coming up. Saturday,

[23:43] September 12th, 2026 at Bolero on Cortez Road. It starts

[23:48] at six. You can call up the center to buy

[23:50] your lanes or tickets for the event. Team Custom Contest,

[23:55] Silent Option, 50 - 50 raffle, all those good things.

[23:58] So reach out to the center if you're interested in

[24:00] going to the Le Pensi Bowling channel. And it's for

[24:05] the island, the Community Center, but I've been going for

[24:08] at least 10 years every year. And it's a major

[24:11] island citizens. They all get together. You don't have to

[24:15] bowl. They have all kinds of prizes you can buy

[24:18] tickets and stuff. I've never bowled. I've gotten there and

[24:20] said hi to all my friends. So. Yeah, it's really,

[24:24] you don't have to, and you can buy lottery tickets

[24:26] and everything just like everybody else for all the gift

[24:28] baskets. But it's a, it's a center fundraiser. You don't

[24:32] have to bowl. Yeah. I usually don't bowl. It's usually

[24:34] just like a fun event where you just come out

[24:36] everybody from the island and raise money and, you know,

[24:40] put your little raffle tickets in and do the auctions

[24:42] and that kind of stuff. That at the alley on

[24:44] Cortez. Yeah. Yep. Whatever. September. 12th. No. Recently.

[24:54] Just. The other day. We have a new sign. Different

[24:58] name. It's called something strike or something. Like that. Lucky

[25:02] strike. Yeah. Oh, well actually that's better than the other

[25:05] name. I never could remember that. It was just earlier

[25:07] this week or so. Oh. Maybe it was earlier. Today's

[25:11] Tuesday, right? Yeah. It was last week. Well, there you

[25:13] go. Well then lucky strike then. Formally. Yeah. The bowling

[25:18] alley on Cortez. Yeah, that was not supposed to be

[25:20] funny. Applebee's hasn't changed his name right across from Applebee's.

[25:26] Is that it? That's it. Dan. Dog Parks doing wonderful.

[25:30] Thank you, Herb. And mother nature's helping with natural rainfall.

[25:35] Uh, it looks great. And it's fully open now, I

[25:37] think, right? The Big Dogs don't seem to be tearing

[25:42] it up. Too bad. So. I know give him time.

[25:46] It's the, um, wait till season. It's the winter season

[25:49] when it's dormant. That's when that tends to get. A

[25:56] Herb. I took a look at the 56th Street project

[25:58] the other day. You know, you see pictures and you

[26:02] get briefings and you don't really understand it to you.

[26:06] You actually put dry balls on it. I climb down

[26:08] in the hole and watch what they were doing down

[26:09] there. Are you covered under our comp? Holy, all I

[26:14] can say. They were rerouting a water main around. These

[26:18] guys were in the trenches with ratchets and wrenches. And

[26:22] screwing this thing together. It's pretty complex. And the pipe

[26:25] that's going in case you want to the size of

[26:27] the pipe. It's big at the end. What is it

[26:30] like a 12 or 24 inch? It's 48 inch. Oh

[26:33] 48. And that's for stormwater, right. The one you're putting

[26:36] is for stormwater. And tide valves and I always had

[26:39] my mind valve is about this big. Oh boy. Was

[26:42] I wrong. Um. I crawled down in a hole and

[26:46] a guy was in the outflow. You actually crawled and

[26:49] he was a pretty good sized guy. He actually crawled

[26:51] inside the outflow himself. And he's in there install the

[26:56] tide valve. And he's his whole body is in there.

[26:59] So the outflow is about this big. So if you

[27:04] really were wondering what we're paying all the stormwater fees

[27:08] for. Just take a look at that. I was really

[27:10] impressed. The herb does this all the time, but I

[27:13] was shocked at the size and the scale. So thank

[27:17] you for what you do. Yeah. And it's been rough

[27:19] on that neighborhood, but I'll be since Judy was born

[27:26] even. I mean, it's been those small pipes underneath. So

[27:30] finally, we're getting something done. And hopefully it'll help our

[27:32] chronic problems that we've had over there forever. So, and

[27:36] I did notice that first time 20 years, maybe longer.

[27:42] Major rain has come and I've driven by the, I

[27:45] call the gas station here. The auto repair. The shopping

[27:51] center, home street shopping center. And in front of here,

[27:54] first time I've ever been able to drive with no

[27:56] major flooding at all. This is before this closed down.

[27:59] So it's working. And I mean, I was, I mean,

[28:03] that's one thing I noticed. It was a major reign

[28:05] and I was able to drive like within 20 minutes.

[28:08] And it was. So good job. Okay. The only thing

[28:11] I have to report is I'm speaking on behalf. I

[28:16] guess myself at the Women's Republican Party about amendment three.

[28:20] I still got to do a lot of my research.

[28:22] I guess Marianne Barnaby is going to be, they want

[28:24] to talk about what the cities think about it. I

[28:26] really don't have any, um, opinion out of one way

[28:29] or the other. Whatever the citizens decides we're going to

[28:32] have to deal with. But I want to research on

[28:34] it. And not try to sway either way, you know,

[28:37] just try to speak of the facts. Um, pace. Pace

[28:41] called me yesterday somebody from Tallahassee. And I refer them

[28:45] to the mayor and to Chad. Um, it's that program.

[28:50] Have you ever heard it? And I forgot Glenn Javelina

[28:52] tried years to get the county to do it. And

[28:55] it's a program. And they're thinking of the aisle in

[28:58] the barrier islands after all these storms. It's a way

[29:00] you can fund to make your house more resilient. And

[29:05] actually what I understood the county didn't have anything. Just,

[29:08] they just said it was okay. And that's what they

[29:12] asked the cities to be able to allow these people

[29:14] funding to be able to do that if they wanted.

[29:16] I told them I think we have like six or

[29:18] seven houses that are elevating now. But I told them

[29:21] to talk to you to guys and he's going to

[29:22] call and see if you guys are, if we're interested

[29:25] and then you can bring it before the board because

[29:27] the board has to approve it. Yeah. Actually sent me

[29:31] an email. 10 minutes before the meeting. So I reached

[29:34] out. He sent a pamphlet. And as soon as I

[29:36] have a chance to digest it, I'll get with a

[29:39] mayor and we'll set something up. Good. Okay. I'd heard

[29:42] about it. And then I didn't realize that it had

[29:44] already been in the county so good. Um, I stopped

[29:48] by here leaving after getting my mail and I, the

[29:50] turtle talk was here the other day. And it was

[29:53] so cool some mothers brought their kids. And which I

[29:56] did know, and I love science, uh, the turtles with

[30:00] shells. They have all of these little critters that are

[30:02] on their shelves that travel all over. And the critters

[30:04] get off and they kind of just do our ecosystem.

[30:07] I thought it was really cool. Um, everybody seemed to

[30:10] really enjoy. And the two ladies speak and did a

[30:14] really good job. And I know you guys have been

[30:16] to them. So and I think it's every Monday. They

[30:19] failed the chamber every Monday. Yeah. Yeah. And I like

[30:22] that they were bringing kids. So. And the last thing

[30:25] I did the infamous e - bike tour on the

[30:29] island last Sunday didn't fall. But I wanted to show

[30:33] my friends, the city, and we all started. We started

[30:36] Anne Brandon worked our way down. We went to the

[30:37] public beach for lunch and everything. And just got to

[30:41] look around in all the back roads and stuff. I

[30:45] got a lowrider one, you know, and I went slow

[30:48] because I, you know, I'm nervous about them too, but

[30:51] it was a good experience. And it was fun. Of

[30:55] course. Yeah. I'm the one that found that kid on

[30:58] Manity Avenue that had the head injury. Um, speaking of

[31:01] that, um, when all this stuff is done on 56th

[31:05] Street where the home speech post office is a marina

[31:10] drive, well, that's four way stop, go away. They are

[31:14] two way, it was four way now. Okay, good. We're

[31:21] directing everyone down Holmes'boulevard and the people that are on

[31:24] Gulf Drive were not allowing people to come so we've

[31:27] made it a four - way stop. So it's just

[31:31] safer. It only broke the lie. I drove through it

[31:34] the other day and I realized it. Tickets in the

[31:37] mail. You didn't catch me. You didn't have your camera

[31:40] there. So, and that's all I have. Um, okay. Mayor,

[31:44] do you have a report. Okay. Well, I enjoyed my

[31:51] almost three weeks away at the Keys. The water was

[31:54] crystal clear and there was plenty of lobsters. We had

[31:57] a lot of fun with the family. Recently though, we

[32:01] did just have a meeting with the county folks. We

[32:03] do that every year. Charlie Bishop and their staff come

[32:07] and they go through anything they can do for us.

[32:12] Anything we can do for them. Um, these last two

[32:16] years. When was our last election that we got rid

[32:21] of some. Relationships have been amazing. Tao's awesome. Charlie's been

[32:30] really great. The staff is there. There's just been really

[32:34] great with home speech. Um, we had several topics we

[32:37] talked about. First was beach patrol. Uh, I told them,

[32:42] remember we still had an extra 25, 000 hopes for

[32:45] this year. Increasing our beach patrol money. Um, they, they

[32:51] were hoping that. Being that TDC can now fund lifeguards

[32:57] that might be able to get some of the lifeguard

[32:59] funding available for beach patrol, but that hasn't happened yet.

[33:04] They have not brought that up in front of TDC

[33:07] to do that funding. So they're still short money. So

[33:11] they cannot promise anything. They're still going to see what

[33:14] they can do. But it doesn't look promising for this

[33:18] year, nor does it look promising for any increase next

[33:22] year because they still want to implement consideration for implementing,

[33:31] um, paid beach parking. Which and also the boat ramps.

[33:37] And they want to use that funding source. For Beach

[33:41] Patrol. And I said, well, we can't wait. They don't

[33:43] want, they don't want to do, they didn't want to

[33:45] talk about it this year because election season and they

[33:49] know that's going to cause some anxiety. Um, as soon

[33:54] as you talk about paid Park, you get beaches. So.

[33:58] We don't know what we're going to do about getting

[33:59] any additional funding. I told them every year you don't

[34:02] increase it. You're actually defunding us because salaries continue to

[34:06] go up. Costs continue to go up gas continues to

[34:09] go up. They're aware of that. But right now everybody

[34:12] knows the county's a little tight on funding too. And

[34:15] especially with this, um, potential increase of homestead exemption. If

[34:23] it goes to referendum, they're going to be looking everywhere

[34:26] that we're going to be looking for funding to health

[34:29] offset that. Um, so beach patrol is still an unknown.

[34:35] Kingfish boat ramp, commercial rentals. We talked about the concerns

[34:39] we have. I don't know if you all have noticed,

[34:42] but the lot more vehicles, not vehicle trailer, but a

[34:45] lot of just vehicles. Taking up the parking at kingfish.

[34:50] And what that is, we've always had local captains fishermen

[34:56] picking up people there. But now we've got boat rental

[35:00] companies moving in. And they're the pontoon boats that can

[35:03] carry, you know, one, two families. So they've added to

[35:07] the parking, even though it's a commercial use. It's not

[35:12] allowed. We have to catch them. And we have to

[35:16] be there watching them, you know, citing them. So right

[35:20] now. One time I was leaving. I don't know how

[35:24] many cars there was parked on the other sea. And

[35:26] they were just pulled in like a diagonal, which is

[35:29] against the law. If you're going to park there, it

[35:31] has to be parallel with the blow traffic. So they

[35:34] all got tickets. Chief said he went out and took

[35:37] it them all. So now they're parking. It's parallel. But

[35:45] it's a state road. They're really not supposed to be

[35:48] there anyway. So we were watching, your chief was through,

[35:53] he had some videos where people with young kids were

[35:58] parking there to come to a rental boat. And they

[36:01] were racing across Manatee Avenue. Between cars, and we're going,

[36:06] if we continue to look the other way and someone

[36:09] gets hit because we're not enforcing state laws, if you're

[36:13] not allowed to park on right away zone state roads,

[36:17] are we going to be liable? Not just liable, but

[36:20] it's not saved. So we've been, we talked with Randy.

[36:25] We talked with the county folks about it. And they

[36:28] said, yeah, we really, the state really should put the

[36:31] signs up. They were putting them up during COVID and

[36:35] we said, don't do it. You know, that's just bad

[36:37] timing. People need to get out in their boats. You

[36:40] know, we have no objection if boats and your cars,

[36:45] you know, trucks and trailers are parked there because there

[36:47] was limited parking. At the boat ramp at that time.

[36:51] But now it looks because it's turned into be a

[36:56] more commercialized use. And the fact that now we're getting

[37:00] vehicles, not just trucks and trailers, we might have to

[37:04] go ahead and reach out to the state. So I

[37:06] think the county was going to do that for us.

[37:08] I already did it. You did? I sent them videos

[37:11] showing the people leapfrogging between cars with kids and coolers.

[37:17] And they were not happy. And they said that they

[37:19] would get back with me. But they're going to take

[37:21] action. I suspect that they'll put up the signs of

[37:24] no parking on the right way over there. Can I

[37:28] ask a question? Because I was, I was around when,

[37:31] when, um, the city didn't want, I mean, we all

[37:35] know what we got to concern that people were parking

[37:39] across the street. And it was just around after COVID.

[37:44] So Sherry had this told the state and all of

[37:46] a sudden they put the signs up. We didn't even

[37:47] know they were going to do that. And they said,

[37:49] no parking. Then our city here said, no, we don't

[37:52] want to do that because the charters, they use them

[37:55] for their guests to come and then they would walk

[37:57] across the street. So the county called the state back

[38:02] and they took them away. So Scott Moore called me

[38:05] when this was in the paper, I think, with the

[38:08] pontoons. We all saw it in the paper. He goes,

[38:11] and he goes, I'm telling people, they just better be

[38:12] careful what they're asking for because that includes charters too.

[38:16] And like Scott Morn, people like that make a business

[38:19] picking up people and leaving. And yeah, I don't like

[38:23] the tourists going up and running a pontoon and having

[38:27] 12 people on it. But it's still the same thing.

[38:29] It's a commercial business. And I think there was enough

[38:31] parking when it was just a charter. It's once upon.

[38:36] Then you noticed. And the jet ski guy. Well, then

[38:39] you noticed now we don't have enough vehicle parking. So

[38:45] they're ruin it for everybody. And so I told Charlie,

[38:47] I said, when you're laying in bed in the middle

[38:51] of the night with your eyes wide open like I

[38:53] do. And it's like, can you see if how we

[38:57] can solve this issue with charter fishermen? Because it's not

[39:03] right that they've been pushed out of living here on

[39:06] the island because the resort, everybody saw the Christmas tree

[39:09] maps of where resort housing is everywhere, even in northwest

[39:13] Brington. They're pushed out. That's their access to the water.

[39:20] And now we're looking at Sarasito's looking at, they have

[39:24] to bid for a medallion like a franchise. So it's,

[39:29] it's tough. We've got to take care of the people

[39:31] that are trying to live, you know, make a living.

[39:35] Their kids go to school here. And at the same

[39:38] time address what's happening with all the jet ski rentals

[39:41] and boat rentals that are trying to come in and

[39:43] take up the parking. So there have to be more

[39:46] discussion. And also at the county and on how we're

[39:49] going to address this. And I agree that how I

[39:51] want to really protect the Scott Moore, he wouldn't leave

[39:56] it alone. He says watch out because you guys are

[39:58] going to do this and this is going to affect

[39:59] us that actually live out here. But we pick our

[40:02] custards and ears up. So if we're, and how do

[40:05] you discriminate, unfortunately like the rental world, you're not allowed

[40:08] to limit them anymore, but just so we all know

[40:11] this may affect the islanders. Well, for our commercial business.

[40:16] Code, it could be written different than the counties and

[40:20] that's a county park. So we're having the county come

[40:24] up with, they know we want to support our locals.

[40:28] And our local charter fishermen have always been there. And

[40:32] they haven't been an issue. So I've reached out to

[40:35] them to try to see what they can do to

[40:37] solve the issue. Terry. I just wonder. Chief. Are the

[40:44] rules the same for the ramp. Sau. As their enforcing

[40:52] act. The rules pertaining to. Parking. Yeah. They have, uh,

[40:59] they have dedicated parking at Palmi sola for the boat

[41:03] and trailer. And they allow people to park all over

[41:07] there right away there. What are they allowing. The. Load

[41:12] their. Passengers there? Oh, they're doing that. Yeah. They're doing

[41:15] that. And so the jet skis, there was like 50

[41:18] jet skis out there, uh, over the weekend. And they've

[41:22] made their own ramps just by backing it down. They're

[41:26] not using the rams. They're just making the just going

[41:30] in there backing it up. And they're just, there's no

[41:33] enforcement at all. In fact, Tal said the county may

[41:36] need to go ahead and just sever the relationship with

[41:38] Bradenton being the one to enforce that because there is

[41:41] no enforcement. That's their jurisdiction, Brayton, not the county. That'll

[41:45] the county said they've, they have a. Only own the

[41:48] bathroom. They have an agreement with City of Bradenton to

[41:51] a boat ramp. Just for the boat ramp and the

[41:54] bathrooms of the state. That's the only thing the counties

[41:56] have. I wonder if part of the problem is they're

[41:59] not mowing and maintaining that. I realize. It's a construction

[42:02] site. It looks horrible. It was from Kingfish. They haven't

[42:08] mowed that. Four months. I think that that's because they're

[42:12] using it for staging. I know there's using all of

[42:16] it. It's an appearance thing. It'll be done next week.

[42:20] Hopefully that'll all be cleaned up after the project. But

[42:23] it may also be minimizing me. Exactly. Because it's more

[42:28] marshinette. That's not a bad thing. Okay. Dan and then

[42:32] we'll go and get onto the agenda. Chief, do these

[42:34] folks in these folks that use the ponto boats? Do

[42:37] they have a license and insurance to do this? We

[42:41] can regulate that. They're not supposed to be there. So

[42:44] we just have to, they asked us anytime we see

[42:47] them to make them leave. We're only allowed to be

[42:49] there for 15 minutes. No, they're only allowed to be

[42:51] attached to the doc for 15 minutes and we will

[42:53] give them a citation if we see them staging and

[42:57] waiting on their people to get there. Oh, good. I

[43:00] just don't want Kingfish to look like the causeway. Well,

[43:03] exactly. Well, that's what's happening. It's the only difference is

[43:06] they're not sitting up tents. You know, they're just, they're

[43:09] going and they're staging on the, uh, east side of

[43:12] the bridge. And then they sit there and they've got

[43:15] their trucks with the pontoons or their jet skis sitting

[43:19] there off to the side. And then when, you know,

[43:22] five minutes before their people are supposed to meet them

[43:24] there, they go and they drop the boat in the

[43:26] jet skis and people meet them there. And clever workarounds,

[43:30] aren't they? I've never seen a jet ski leave our

[43:32] kingfish. I always see them on the causeway. Oh no,

[43:35] we've got, uh, four trucks. Are they allowed to? Eight,

[43:38] uh, eight on each one, eight jet skis. We had

[43:41] that issue at 63rd Street as well. And then some

[43:44] discussion and I know a new signage went up. I've

[43:48] heard you've heard more. Complaints about just that. Some of

[43:52] the charter. And Untune captains were staging there. It's a

[43:58] very small dock. And we only allow 15 minutes as

[44:01] well there. And I think we have assigned no commercial

[44:05] use because you're not allowed to have commercial use on

[44:07] that deeded land. Using it. And there was a jet

[44:11] ski crash in Anna Maria this past weekend with a

[44:14] death. So for death. Like Beanpoint area, right? Yeah.

[44:25] Dangerous part. Yeah. Single vessel crash.

[44:37] That's good enough. So they were, were they renting the

[44:39] jet ski. Okay. The next topic was trolley shelter

[44:48] funding. They know that we've been sort of given the

[44:52] runaround. And it's because people leave who's at county. And

[44:56] then we got to go to the next person. And

[44:57] now that one we just were told is no longer

[45:00] there. So. Now Chad left. But then there was somebody

[45:03] else after Chad. So Charlie said, just send us the

[45:07] invoice. So. We're working on that. He said, yes, the

[45:12] amount that they normally fund for a trolley shelter should

[45:16] come to the city. And the addition from having the

[45:19] ones that look, you know, beachy and islander. And they're

[45:22] not just the metal ones. Then we can go for

[45:26] TDC funding for the difference. A thousand. No. We did

[45:30] bigger ones. Um, the, the public's shelter is at least

[45:35] two or three times bigger so that one would be

[45:37] a bigger dollar. But then not necessarily it was bid,

[45:42] it was expected to be 25, 000 dollars. And that's

[45:45] why that was in our budget. So this one's bigger.

[45:49] It wasn't, it's not going to go from 65 to

[45:51] more. It's supposed to go out to rebuild and we're

[45:54] hoping to get lower than 65. No, I'm not talking

[45:56] about that. That's something different. Different, different trolley stop? No,

[45:59] what I'm talking about is the difference. Say if the

[46:03] county pays the 6, 000 dollars per shelter. And our

[46:07] shelters cost 15, 000. The difference of that cost we

[46:11] can go to TDC and try to recoup that kind

[46:15] of money from them. It's what is what they're. Which

[46:18] we've been advocating for years. We totally can justify because

[46:22] we only have 2, 500 residents here. And we have

[46:27] 50 or 60, 000. You can do it by the

[46:30] trolley numbers. How many they ride. So that's totally tourism.

[46:35] Okay. The last was paid parking. Um, I have been

[46:40] in conversations with Mark Short. We've seen that they are

[46:45] looking at what they have to do. They, they invested

[46:48] in a parking plan. I think beginning of the year.

[46:52] So it was just unveiled. Everybody knows that we've done

[46:55] our parking map. And we've identified what we would have

[47:00] if we went forward with paid parking. And we've just

[47:02] been sort of waiting until we were pushed into paid

[47:05] parking because the county does it. So they've been doing

[47:09] the same thing. They want to wait, be ready. Um,

[47:14] because we all have to do it at the same

[47:15] time. So we just had another meeting with Mark. And

[47:20] this one was on exactly what they're looking at for

[47:23] their paid parking. It's very similar to what we would

[47:26] probably suggest to the board if we had to be

[47:30] moved into the paid parking. Um, which. And so we

[47:35] both used the same chief names. Passport tickets. They're the

[47:43] same vendor that is working with Anna Maria. So, so

[47:47] what I, what I told Mark was, we're going to

[47:52] probably be very similar. Manatee County might be different with

[47:55] theirs. I don't know what vendor they would use if

[47:57] they would do passport. But. Manatee County would maybe approach

[48:05] it differently because it's their manatee county parks. They would

[48:09] probably look at minute county residents either free or very.

[48:13] A lot less money than out of towners. We would

[48:16] be looking at protecting home speech, property owners. Ana Maria

[48:20] would be looking at protecting theirs. So although we might

[48:23] have little difference with our paid parking, we're hoping they

[48:27] would be very similar as far as use for the

[48:30] people that are using it. So we're just doing exactly

[48:32] what Mark doing. We're doing the background work in case

[48:36] it looks like it's going to happen. Or in case

[48:38] these two cities decide, let's do it. Let's not wait

[48:41] for the county. The staff has been prepared to act

[48:46] if we need to. What about Brayton Beach? I mean,

[48:48] it would be nice if everybody was caught. There was

[48:51] continuity. Well, that's count. I'm calling Braden County because Brandon

[48:55] Beach has zero right away parking pretty much. And all

[48:59] of their beach parking is county. So that's where I

[49:04] say county. That's what I mean. But yes, Braden Abbeach

[49:07] would be a part of it as well. Do we

[49:08] have all the map that you just talked about for

[49:11] our city? Is that available somewhere? It's online. Yep. And

[49:15] if you need someone to print it for you, we

[49:17] can. Thanks. I'd like a copy. It's all the parking

[49:21] within a quarter mile distance from the beach that's available

[49:25] for all these residential neighborhoods. And, um, I'm thinking it's

[49:30] like 800 and something parking. 102. But it also includes

[49:34] the county beach parking. So I wouldn't recommend going any

[49:41] farther than that, you know, getting into other people's quality

[49:46] of life just for a money maker. But, um, you

[49:50] might have to turn everything else into permit parking. So

[49:53] it doesn't become parking where people try to avoid the

[49:56] paid. So it could be messy. So we're going to

[50:00] get you all the information. So if it does come

[50:02] forward staff will be able to give you everything for

[50:05] your consideration. And could you give us a copy of

[50:08] that? I know we have paid parking for residents, which

[50:12] I totally refused to pay for. I don't even know

[50:14] where they are. But can we on a map have

[50:17] where they are? Because if we're going to do both,

[50:19] we need to get rid of the one. We don't

[50:21] have to kill. I know it's 50 dollars. And no,

[50:27] it was never 50. One time ago. No, never 50.

[50:29] It was 10. Whatever it is, I'm not paying to

[50:31] park when I live here for two years. It's permit

[50:32] parking. And a lot of the permit parking that we

[50:35] used to have went away when we, uh, went to

[50:39] all four tires off the road because you couldn't get

[50:41] off where tires off the road. So. We don't actually

[50:44] have a map that a lot of people love parking

[50:51] in those places. So you're going to get pushback from

[50:53] residents that. And I got to tell you, I don't

[50:56] want to get into the paid parking discussion cause it's

[50:58] big. But you cannot get rid of permit parking if

[51:03] you go to paid parking. Because if you don't have

[51:06] permit parking, here, people are going to park there so

[51:11] they don't have to pay 458 an hour here. So

[51:14] what happens with paid parking, you actually add more permit

[51:18] parking. So every other street of the city doesn't become

[51:21] someone trying to avoid paying an hourly rate to park.

[51:25] So it is messy once you start going paid parkings.

[51:28] But we'll have all that information for you when you're

[51:30] ready to talk about it. Next. Okay. Just where would

[51:34] I find it on the city site? Sorry. I'm just,

[51:39] what do you want to know or something? The parking

[51:40] math. No, there's a, what do you want to know

[51:44] or something on the City website? You go to, I

[51:46] want to and you go down to find parking. Oh,

[51:51] I want to find parking. Thank you. It's an interactive

[51:54] map there. That's a parking map, but I don't know

[51:57] if there's the permit parking map is probably still there.

[52:02] Um, and that's it. Okay. Now can we get on

[52:06] to the agenda. Yes. Um. Paid parking is going to

[52:12] be a heated issue in the next couple of years,

[52:14] I think. But I'm not sure the county has the

[52:18] authority to issue free parking to man to your residents

[52:21] at the county beaches. Because those 1400 parking spaces are

[52:26] used for beetree nourishment. And I think it is for

[52:30] B tree nursing my understanding is everybody has to pay

[52:32] the same. Exactly. That's correct. And we will of course

[52:36] research and assure that we're clear on that guidance to

[52:40] the extent clarity can be found at all. Right. Um,

[52:42] we'll make sure that once we have a substantive discussion

[52:44] on the parking thing that we have that context. Yeah,

[52:47] I just didn't want to throw another wrinkle in it.

[52:49] Randy, explain that again. No, just explain again because I'm

[52:54] not into all this like, seems like you are. I'm

[52:59] being asked to explain a question. But what I would

[53:01] say is that there's, depending on where you're talking about,

[53:05] what divisions of government you're talking about. Attendant to Beatri

[53:09] Nourishment historically, the guidance from the federal government and as

[53:13] administered by the state that where Beach Renourishment dollars and

[53:16] resources are utilized that a certain amount of parking has

[53:19] to be available to the general public at no charge.

[53:22] Um, there's been, not sorry. And that's why I said

[53:25] like, and that was in another county. That was in

[53:27] another county. And why I was trying to be vague

[53:29] on purpose, um, because I don't know the exact parameters

[53:32] here, but there has to be some allotment for public

[53:34] parking. Um, and so there are certain parameters around that.

[53:38] It is constantly evolving landscape and guidance from the Army

[53:41] Corps of Engineers, federals and the state. And we would

[53:43] want to make sure that in addition to whatever agreements

[53:46] and commitments we have as between the City of Homes

[53:48] Beach and the county, we're also aware of any regulatory

[53:51] compliance. That is attendant to parking without making any, for

[53:55] my friends in the press commitments or, or affirmative statements

[53:58] on what the policy absolutely is in this moment where

[54:00] we have not been researching that actively. What the policy

[54:03] is. Whether you're from Ohio or Holmes Beach, that parking

[54:10] place is available for you for the same amount of

[54:13] money or free. So, and there's a certain amount of

[54:17] parking per block. Or length of beach. That you have

[54:22] to provide for Beach Renourishment Dollars. And so public beach

[54:28] on the beach renourishment, there's like 325 spots shows up

[54:33] that that is available to all at the same rate

[54:37] or no right. Home speech. On our secondary parking. That's

[54:43] primary parking. Secondary parking because I know the restrooms. There's

[54:47] no lifeguards. It's just secondary beach parking. There's a few

[54:51] spots all up and down our beach. That total 65.

[54:56] That's all we have to, and then you get credits

[54:59] for some bike racks and trolley stops. But those 65

[55:05] spots throughout Home Speech would be city getting funded if

[55:09] it became paid parking or not. You can keep it

[55:11] free for all. The 325 is right now. What. That

[55:18] was the last beach renourishment. Paperwork that we received. Correct

[55:25] me if I'm wrong, but. And I believe we have

[55:28] more than that. We have about 800. Yeah. Designated. Two.

[55:33] Yeah. 800. And those are all those are all labeled,

[55:37] right Chief. The county has. Yeah. We've improved them all

[55:42] and they're mapped. Yeah. They're my, okay. And they're on

[55:45] that map that you have on the website. Okay. I

[55:47] guess I got to look it. Up. Okay. We're done

[55:50] with the mayor's report. All right. Now we are on

[55:56] comments by the public. You'll have a chance now and

[55:59] you'll have a chance at the end of the meeting

[56:01] if you'd like to come up. Please state your name.

[56:04] And I guess you have to write it on a

[56:06] paper. And you got five minutes for the chair's prerogative.

[56:28] She's just soft spoken. Yeah. Proving your successful, my husband

[56:33] says that. I'm proving your successful management of storm mitigation

[56:39] and debris removal. Congratulations. I was at the recent TDC

[56:44] meeting and Herb and Ben Dan and Mark. Who found,

[56:52] identified the part of the, their bylaws or their charter

[56:58] that says the TDC can indeed use funding to pay

[57:02] for infrastructure. So herb and Dan did a great job

[57:08] explaining, uh, the funding at request for funding for the

[57:13] title valves. It was well done. I would like to

[57:17] add a couple things to that. Yes, it's an inconvenience

[57:21] to have water on the road, but I think we

[57:24] all know also that it's a safety issue. Because pedestrians

[57:29] and bikers have to go out into the street and

[57:32] compete for space with vehicles. Mayor Brown had a question

[57:38] about justification of spending TDC funds on residential streets. And

[57:46] I think Commissioner Whitmore may have been, well, no, you

[57:50] kind of addressed it today. We're mostly tourists. So every

[57:55] street has tourists. If you, if we are using some

[58:00] kind of TD's TDC funds on a residential street, it's

[58:06] mostly tourists. It's going to benefit tourists. And also there

[58:14] was questions about opening up a can of worms. They've

[58:19] never done this before. They've never spent funding on infrastructure.

[58:25] Well, so what? If they open a can of worms.

[58:29] Our city has been, have been spending money for years

[58:33] on infrastructure that protects the tourism. So we have, we've,

[58:41] we've protected more and more tourists and fewer and fewer

[58:46] residents. So thanks to the Commissioner Commissioner Dan and Herb

[58:54] and Mark for finding out that those funds could be

[58:58] used for that. And now for lifeguards. So great. Let's

[59:02] open that can of worms. We've given them enough worms

[59:06] anyway. Thank you. That was good. Thank you, Nancy. Anybody

[59:09] else in the public like to make a public comment

[59:12] now or would you rather wait. Okay. We closed public

[59:15] comment. Um, Mayor Brown was probably flipping out because river

[59:19] view boulevard. And I'm sure you all hear complaints. Have

[59:22] her really have heard about all of its short -

[59:26] term rentals now. Those big mansions. And now they're all

[59:29] raising heck. But, uh, 2, 500 block about augmentation. If

[59:35] you go down and you'll see the road dips a

[59:37] little, all those homes, if the high tide are flooded,

[59:41] mayor post and lived on one of them. He hasn't

[59:43] been back there since the hurricane. They've all gotten destroyed

[59:46] because the water's gone over the seawalls now. And you

[59:50] know, that's probably what he's talking about. The can of

[59:52] worms because that could help them. But they're going to

[59:54] have to elevate their seawalls or something. That's how bad

[59:57] it's getting. May I give a little clarity. If you.

[1:00:03] Don't, yeah. Okay. Uh, I do it on your report.

[1:00:08] No, just now TDC. It did not pass by the

[1:00:11] way we deferred it to the next meeting, which is

[1:00:14] in October. And the reason it was deferred is because

[1:00:17] there's one little thing that Elliot missed. It says an

[1:00:22] independent professional analysis performed at the expense of the county

[1:00:26] tourism development council demonstrates the positive impact of the infrastructure

[1:00:31] project on tourists related businesses in the county. Or blah,

[1:00:36] blah, blah, blah, blah. So basically it's an independent analysis.

[1:00:40] It's not really a study. It's just an analysis. But

[1:00:42] what this means is in Herb and I have talked

[1:00:45] about this. If you take a picture of the trolley

[1:00:47] stop down here in front of the public works building

[1:00:50] when high tide, the trolley stop is flooded. The sidewalk

[1:00:54] is flooded and the bike path is flooded. If you

[1:00:57] take a picture with a tide valve in there at

[1:01:00] high tide, they're not flooded. There's your analysis. So it

[1:01:05] has to be something probably that simple. I'm not sure

[1:01:08] what TDC is going to do between now and our

[1:01:11] next meeting in October. But we requested 344, 500 for

[1:01:15] this. The total, uh, project over five years is 689,

[1:01:21] 000. Install 77 tide valves, something like that. Well, it

[1:01:26] used to be good in math. And that's all great.

[1:01:29] I'm glad again, um, I didn't think we'd be taught,

[1:01:33] I wasn't planning on talking about this. But as a

[1:01:35] board member, I didn't know we were going to go

[1:01:37] before them to request it. Or I would have done

[1:01:40] my homework or tried to be there. To support it.

[1:01:43] Again, TDC monies can also be used for other things.

[1:01:47] You know, now we're doing, we're back, she got money.

[1:01:50] You guys raised a stormwater fee. So we are doing

[1:01:53] more tidal valves. And now where are we historically flooded

[1:01:56] for 20 something years? It's kind of resolved in itself.

[1:02:00] So we have to look at other things. But I

[1:02:02] think something like that. We as a board probably should

[1:02:05] stand united when we go to the TDC and said

[1:02:08] that our commission's requesting this. And maybe then our attorney

[1:02:12] could have known that we needed to do research. I

[1:02:14] don't know. Um, the lifeguards is wonderful to hear because

[1:02:18] Panama did it years ago. Some legislator that was in

[1:02:22] charge up there was higher up like a president of

[1:02:24] the Senate or whatever. He actually had an exemption for

[1:02:28] Panama City that they could have the TDC funds would

[1:02:32] pay for lifeguards. And they, they did it on a

[1:02:35] formula with their population, et cetera. And that's how they

[1:02:38] got it. We as the counties and the city supported

[1:02:42] at Went to Tallahassee. He said, we want to do

[1:02:44] a Panama Cities doing. They said, nope, you don't meet

[1:02:46] that population - like Panama and you don't do this.

[1:02:49] So that's why we never got it. But I mean,

[1:02:52] if we're going to do something like this, maybe before

[1:02:55] the next meeting, if we get serious, we need to

[1:02:57] make sure if that's really what we want to spend

[1:03:00] our money for for the valves, since we already got

[1:03:02] a stormwater fee, and I don't know how many more

[1:03:04] we have in the hopper, it sounds like 300, 000

[1:03:06] more. Or is there another infrastructure thing that's related to

[1:03:10] Taurus that could also help. But I think it poses

[1:03:13] also budget related. And policy. So, and I'm glad you

[1:03:18] brought it up because now all the other cities are

[1:03:20] going to look at it. Now they're all going to

[1:03:21] be wanting it to. Yeah. And that's not just us.

[1:03:25] All the cities along the, all the cities along the

[1:03:28] shoreline of Florida, because if you're going to do a

[1:03:31] fresh, you have to do it for all. So whatever.

[1:03:34] Okay. And now with amendment three, we may have to

[1:03:37] be more creative with that money because of whatever happens

[1:03:40] with what funding we don't get if it does pass.

[1:03:43] So anyway, so, um, so yes. I heard about it

[1:03:48] during the meeting. That we were talking about. And that's

[1:03:52] why I thought I didn't want you to not be

[1:03:55] successful. If you're bringing for it, say our board wants

[1:03:58] us to look at this. But maybe in the future,

[1:04:00] if that's what we want to use it for, we

[1:04:02] as a board should say that. Or if we have

[1:04:03] another project. But that's up to you guys. We're pretty

[1:04:06] used in a being successful at TDC. Even when you

[1:04:10] were on the board, we got turned out. I know

[1:04:12] because a lot of stuff you asked for didn't meet

[1:04:14] the crime. No, it did. State law. Well, you didn't

[1:04:16] get it. I know because you didn't vote for it.

[1:04:19] Oh, because it didn't meet the criteria. It did. The

[1:04:22] attorney said it did years. It was unanimous at TDC.

[1:04:26] The city attorney attorney said it did. You said you

[1:04:29] didn't like seawalls. You wanted bike lanes or sidewalks. So

[1:04:32] then we went for bike lanes and sidewalks and it

[1:04:35] still got turned down. So yes, I understand. But it's

[1:04:40] not going to make us stop trying. We're going to

[1:04:42] continue to try. And I really commend her and Dan

[1:04:48] for bringing it up in time for that next because

[1:04:51] that was one of our budget items, even though we

[1:04:54] did get, um, stormwater fee. We got a partial of

[1:04:59] the stormwater fee increased. And I don't think you even

[1:05:03] voted for stormwater fee. Oh, I didn't. Those only reach

[1:05:08] our match. So, so we still have to get additional

[1:05:13] funding for stormwater because we are really, we don't have

[1:05:17] enough to do everything we want to do. You are

[1:05:19] correct. I voted against it because Bill Claig, who actually

[1:05:23] came from Orange County that when the TDC first star

[1:05:26] or the Taurus tax first started, he recommended to us

[1:05:30] that we could use it for your bike paths. If

[1:05:33] we could connect it to a park, so Taurus could

[1:05:35] say they went to the beach and then we're at

[1:05:37] a park. And there was a problem with golf drive

[1:05:39] that they couldn't quite make the park. And that's why

[1:05:41] it got denied. And then another time we looked on

[1:05:44] the seawall along here. But there was another connection we

[1:05:46] couldn't make. So yeah, you are right on some of

[1:05:48] that. Okay. Now can we go on to the next

[1:05:51] thing? Are we on Unfinished Business? None. Uh, new business

[1:05:56] authorized the mayor to execute an agreement between the City

[1:05:59] of Homes Beach and accurate power and technology ink for

[1:06:03] the purpose and delay purchased installation of the City Hall

[1:06:07] Generator. I know we've talked about this before Herb. Do

[1:06:10] you want to just give something very basics of the

[1:06:12] public knows what's going on.

[1:06:24] Health A. There you go. We'll do that. Way. Hopefully

[1:06:28] this works. Awesome. So just real, real briefly, uh, follow

[1:06:36] up to our previous conversations related to this. This is

[1:06:40] for the replacement of the generator here at City Hall.

[1:06:46] Just for everyone's recollection, the generator was installed in 1991.

[1:06:53] For the last few years maintenance and generator has been

[1:06:57] costly. And. We were able to secure a HMGP rant.

[1:07:08] For the replacement. And it's approximately a 2575. Percent match.

[1:07:17] Breakdown. So the city would pay 25 percent approximately. Federal

[1:07:23] government A. And we have, we had five bidders, which

[1:07:29] was fantastic. Unfortunately, one of the bidders had to be

[1:07:32] deemed non - responsive. Because they did not submit a

[1:07:36] bid bond. It still left us with four bidders. And

[1:07:42] accurate power and technology is in accordance with our procurement.

[1:07:48] Code. Is the. Most responsive and responsible bidder. At

[1:07:58] the best value. And so what that amount is, this

[1:08:03] 97, 951 dollars in 17 cents. We're using our standard

[1:08:11] contract. Nothing really different from any other types of contracts

[1:08:16] that we execute with various contractors. Obviously the biggest schedule

[1:08:23] for this is just going to be waiting for a

[1:08:26] generator to be fabricated. So once this fabricated installation should

[1:08:30] go fairly quickly. And I asked her, but if I

[1:08:34] recall, it's just, is it just for the City Hall

[1:08:36] here? Does it? Correct. Yeah. So it's going to be

[1:08:42] elevated. Yeah. It's, it's going to be in the exact

[1:08:44] same location where. The existing one is, which is elevated.

[1:08:48] And it'll power the entire building, which includes police department.

[1:08:53] And, you know, the call center of the 911 center,

[1:08:55] which needs to stay open all the time for emergency

[1:08:58] purposes. That's really good. No valuable. Any other questions, Terry.

[1:09:05] Thanks for all the detail. We had time to really

[1:09:08] dig into the weeds on this one. I wanted kind

[1:09:11] of unusual that there was such a disparity. 1299 to

[1:09:16] a locate of 68, 2006.

[1:09:26] With this qualified contractor. Carol's already asked, can you address

[1:09:31] the elevation issue. Reading through the material, I see that.

[1:09:38] COLAR only offers a one - year warranty. And we

[1:09:41] went through this post - storm. We had a whole

[1:09:45] house, Kohler. I'd survive the storm, but about a year

[1:09:49] for it. Kick the ball today. Seven years. Right. So.

[1:09:55] Essentially I challenged Kohler. And they came back and said,

[1:09:59] well, yes, it should have lasted longer. Our last lasted

[1:10:03] 35 years here. So I don't think we have a

[1:10:05] complaint. But they offered at no additional cost. What would

[1:10:09] be an additional cost for a 10 - year warranty.

[1:10:11] And I wondered if you explored the possibility of having

[1:10:15] an extended war. Do you know what that cost would

[1:10:17] be. We not spoken with Kohler over that. Something that

[1:10:25] we would like to call to do. Uh, since they

[1:10:29] would be the ones making the purchase for us. So

[1:10:31] we're not going to owner, purchase the equipment. Well, I

[1:10:36] think, um, I know you want to get this done.

[1:10:39] But while we're doing it before we sign the final

[1:10:42] line, I would suggest at least determine what the cost

[1:10:46] is. And, um, let Executive Prince and you decide whether

[1:10:54] it's a worthy additional cost. In our case. Always on

[1:10:58] mechanics offer the additional 10 year. If I may, mayor.

[1:11:05] Judy. So my recommendation would be right now it would

[1:11:13] be presumptuous of us to ask the contractor without having

[1:11:16] them under contract. To make that ask. So I would

[1:11:22] say that, you know, my recommendation is that we would

[1:11:25] enter the contract with a contractor. One of the first

[1:11:29] tacits that we would ask them to do after we

[1:11:30] kick the project off. Is to do that research and

[1:11:34] let us know what that cost is. And then we

[1:11:37] could do an amendment to the contract for the difference.

[1:11:40] That makes perfect. I have no problem with your choice.

[1:11:43] You made the right choice, in my opinion. It's simply.

[1:11:47] We can avoid a cost. That would be covered by

[1:11:50] a reasonable. Correct. Maintenance extended maintenance. Correct. And, and, and

[1:11:56] frankly, all four of the responsive bidders are, they're all

[1:12:01] deemed responsible and responsive. You know, we could go with

[1:12:03] any of them. However, where code is written, it's my

[1:12:09] duty to recommend the most valuable. And I support most

[1:12:15] affordable. My question wasn't relative to choice and recommendation. It's

[1:12:22] simply correct. Another element. And I think you're right. Get

[1:12:25] them under contract and then find out what the additional

[1:12:27] cost. And you can recommend back to us for that

[1:12:30] additional. Choosing. Perfect. And Jessica and then. Just so

[1:12:40] out of this 97, right? So HMGP is going to

[1:12:44] pay 75 percent of that approximately. I, I believe this

[1:12:50] particular grant is, it's kind of an odd one where

[1:12:52] it's like 27 point something. So at the end of

[1:12:58] the day we'll be like paying 25, 000, like around

[1:13:00] 25, 000 probably, okay. Again, with all just like all

[1:13:04] the other grants that we've been awarded so far, it's

[1:13:09] a reimbursement. Yep. Okay. That's fine. I just wanted to

[1:13:11] make sure that that was end of the day. It's

[1:13:13] going to, it should be costing us around 24. Thank

[1:13:16] you. Yeah, just quick, Herb. I read the technical specs

[1:13:20] and I'm a little confused. Does it include an onomatic

[1:13:23] transfer switch built into it. Actually, we're going to use

[1:13:28] the one that we have. Okay. Like, cause when we

[1:13:30] have is actually relatively new. It's I think it was

[1:13:33] installed two years ago. Like right after the storms. Okay.

[1:13:38] Um, and that's a large ticket item. And so because

[1:13:43] I couldn't discern whether it was included in this bid

[1:13:46] or not. Is this got an automatic reset feature in

[1:13:48] the inner? Right. Yes. And, uh, that was one of

[1:13:51] the questions that bitters asked and our response after coordinating

[1:13:56] with the building department and having our current building official

[1:14:00] taught. I don't know if you all know, but he's

[1:14:02] a certified master electrician. So we had him look at

[1:14:04] everything and he was like, Oh my goodness gracious. Why

[1:14:06] would we get rid of this thing? They're expensive. Uh,

[1:14:10] and so, and then talking with some other folks that

[1:14:14] also agreed with that assessment. I was right the right

[1:14:17] way to go. And so we responded to all the

[1:14:21] bidders, let them know that, uh, it wasn't required. And

[1:14:26] that could be one of the reasons why there's such

[1:14:28] a disparity in some of these costs. Some of the

[1:14:31] higher bidders may have. Not, you know, not caught that.

[1:14:36] Um, but they all were made aware. You know, all

[1:14:40] through public comment, um, you know, public distribution of the

[1:14:45] information. So because of the way the procurement goes, we

[1:14:49] can't pick up the phone and call them and say,

[1:14:50] Hey, don't forget that blah, blah, blah. It was all

[1:14:54] the same way. This is not a criticism. Just a

[1:14:57] question. In a hundred KW is satisfactory for the whole

[1:15:00] building. Yes. Okay. No problem at all. We don't have

[1:15:04] to keep things off. Well, I'm a civil engineer. So

[1:15:07] I'd hate to be the person to say yes or

[1:15:09] no for sure, but from what I've been told from

[1:15:11] the electricals is that yes, it will power the entire

[1:15:17] building. And all of the existing equipment with capacity for

[1:15:22] additional things. And I believe, uh, during the hurricanes, we

[1:15:27] were even allowing residents to charge their equipment here, uh,

[1:15:33] and at the same time, all the other existing equipment

[1:15:35] was being powered. Okay. Thank you. Um, are we ready

[1:15:39] to take action on this. Any other discussion. A move

[1:15:43] we prove. A second. Motion by Terry's second by Dan.

[1:15:48] Any other discussion. Seeing none, um, all in favor say

[1:15:52] aye. I think we have to make us a roster

[1:15:55] volume. Oh yeah, I forgot. That's right. Sorry. Thank you.

[1:15:59] Commissioner Schaefer. Aye. Commissioner Olfke. Aye. Commissioner Patel. Aye. Commissioner

[1:16:04] Diggins. Aye. Chair Whitmore. Thank you. Okay. Now we have

[1:16:09] an interlocal agreement for fuel services between the city of

[1:16:12] Holmes Beach and the City of Anna Maria. Okay. This

[1:16:16] is the one that I authorized herb. Yeah. And to

[1:16:19] work with Randy on. We're trying to. Work with our

[1:16:22] other cities and do what we can to for each

[1:16:24] other. And, um, they've been sending all of their vehicles

[1:16:28] off island for fuel. And they understood that we have

[1:16:34] our tanks right here. And so he asked if he

[1:16:36] could join in and he could pay for the fuel

[1:16:39] they use. And. Good. So we have enough capacity. So

[1:16:43] we said yes, it's a no brainer. So this is

[1:16:45] the Interloco Agreement for that. This is a way we

[1:16:47] can prove to everybody that we're working with our other

[1:16:50] cities. That's another thing we'll put on our checklist. Okay.

[1:16:54] Any discussion on that? Any questions. Okay. Do I have

[1:16:57] an action. Of approval. Of a second. Second. I'm emotioned

[1:17:03] by Terry's second by Steve. Any other discussion. All in

[1:17:07] favor say aye. Aye. Oh no. Yeah. Let's just do

[1:17:12] it. I just said that. That's somewhere this way. Commissioner

[1:17:14] Schaefer. Aye. Commissioner Ulfke. Aye. Commissioner Patel. Aye. Commissioner Diggins.

[1:17:19] Aye. Chair Whitmore. Okay. Thank you everyone. Um, now we're

[1:17:23] on the announcements, summer turtle talks again, Monday at 10

[1:17:28] a. m. Wednesday the second. Parks of beautification at 10.

[1:17:33] Also Planning Commission is at 330. September 7th, the City

[1:17:37] Hall is closed for Labor Day. On September 9th Clean

[1:17:41] Water Ad Hot Committees is at 9 and September 9th

[1:17:45] is the City Commission's first budget meeting with a regular

[1:17:49] hearing with a regular meaning to follow. And that starts

[1:17:52] at 5. 01 p. m. by law. So there won't

[1:17:55] be a meeting on September 9th about the budget until

[1:17:59] 5 p. m. That's by law. Um, okay. Do we

[1:18:02] have any questions and comments from the mayor. Nope. Any

[1:18:06] from the City Commission, Terry? Just one awareness. I've been

[1:18:12] talking to Andrew Kallel. Of setting up a meeting with

[1:18:18] Senator Boyd. And the issue is really an opportunity to

[1:18:24] discuss with him what he feels or achievable legislative priorities.

[1:18:32] Every year we go before the Manatee County delegation. And

[1:18:37] I've been doing this for seven years now, or six

[1:18:41] in the past. This will be the seventh. And we

[1:18:46] approve by Commission our legislative priorities with input from consul

[1:18:51] with input from certainly since we've had good consultation

[1:19:02] from Andrew to put together a slate of, number one,

[1:19:06] and it'll continue. It'll be home rule. And that's something

[1:19:09] I'd like you to think about. Carol, when you're before,

[1:19:13] the legal women voters. And I'm glad you're there. Finds

[1:19:16] the women's Republican club, but they feel the same way,

[1:19:19] I think. Yeah. Just remember the impact this has on

[1:19:24] the negative impact it has on home rule. It's an

[1:19:27] egregious. It's an egregious stand against home rule in cities

[1:19:33] and municipalities being able to govern their own financing. So

[1:19:37] that triggered the thought. Let's sit down with the senator.

[1:19:43] He's going to be the president of the Senate. Let's

[1:19:47] try to find before we assemble our list and present

[1:19:52] it, what he feels is truly. And it'll be his

[1:19:55] opinion, regardless. But an opportunity to have a discussion with

[1:19:59] him, with some of the frustrations we and many other

[1:20:02] cities have with regard to this process. And really ever

[1:20:06] finding any traction by any of our delegation of taking

[1:20:10] a lead in supporting some of these, in my opinion,

[1:20:15] uh, legitimate requests. So that, um, that will take place

[1:20:22] probably in the next month. It'll depend on his, his

[1:20:24] schedule. Terry, um, you're right. After Jim Boyd, uh, manatee

[1:20:31] county and none of the cities here have any pull

[1:20:35] in Tallahassee for quite a few years because the legislators

[1:20:39] in the hopper to go for leadership positions. So this

[1:20:42] is our, this is our only opportunity. And could we

[1:20:46] at the next meeting possibly look at what our legislative

[1:20:50] platform is and retweeted. And what we really, you know,

[1:20:54] they only want usually, you can have 10 or 12,

[1:20:56] but they only want to hear three. I've learned that

[1:20:59] through all my years going up for 16 years up

[1:21:01] there. They'll take your top three. So is there any

[1:21:04] way that we could like have a, I know we

[1:21:06] don't do work sessions. We do at our next meeting,

[1:21:09] we can look at our, our platform and look at

[1:21:13] and see if the change in it. And since this

[1:21:16] is the only year he's here, I encourage everybody. And

[1:21:20] I remember, I don't know if you had guys remember

[1:21:22] Mike Bennett. When he was a senator. And we would

[1:21:26] go up there and one year, only a couple of

[1:21:30] us went up there in the county. And he goes,

[1:21:33] why would I even give you guys millions of dollars

[1:21:35] when you won't spend the money to come up and

[1:21:37] ask me for it. So when he told us that,

[1:21:40] that's why you see such a big constituent in town

[1:21:43] doing it. Because they're always surprised that they have that

[1:21:47] much support. And I would recommend strongly, I don't know

[1:21:51] when the next session, I know they have like a

[1:21:53] day where you meet your legislators. I'm not sure. We've

[1:21:57] got a couple of days before it. But maybe we

[1:21:59] should go up as a, and you have to vote

[1:22:02] on it ahead of time. So the sunshine issues. And

[1:22:05] you can go up and push them on things we

[1:22:08] really want. This is a process that we've always followed

[1:22:12] in response to your question. I think it's a little

[1:22:14] premature now because these presentations don't occur until. March. After

[1:22:20] the first of the year. Usually January. But it's, I

[1:22:23] mean, to get our homework done or studies, the money's

[1:22:25] attached. What suggestions we bring back this year's priorities. My

[1:22:32] next step was to ask each of you to give

[1:22:34] that some individual thought make suggestions because the end product

[1:22:38] is a result of consensus on behalf of the commission

[1:22:41] of what not only our legislative priorities are, but the

[1:22:45] priorities and how we list them. That's exactly what I

[1:22:48] meant. Our platform have now look at it and see

[1:22:51] what we want. And maybe put stuff with it. Yeah.

[1:22:56] So we can plead our case because again, Jim's next

[1:22:59] year. And then we don't get any benefit. Marina, could

[1:23:03] you remember to just include this year's as a reminder

[1:23:06] to everyone and we can have a discussion item on

[1:23:09] that. Do we want to put it on an agenda

[1:23:12] then just to go over it at the next meeting?

[1:23:14] I don't want to go for early. It's far too

[1:23:16] early to really decide, but if you want to look

[1:23:21] at it, just to look at it. And then if

[1:23:23] anybody has ideas and they can bring it to another

[1:23:25] meeting. Yes. And that's fine to have that discussion in

[1:23:29] my opinion before I have the discussion with senate. Right.

[1:23:32] Right. Okay. Right. Everybody okay. If you have any projects

[1:23:36] that you think once you look at our gender when

[1:23:38] they send it out with our platform is I've also

[1:23:41] talked to ask Chad for his opinion on whatever he

[1:23:47] sees, um, with regard to development and the curls that

[1:23:53] are on state control that we've lost authority on to

[1:23:56] determine whether he is any suggestions for our consideration. Years

[1:24:01] ago I was put on that organization that reviewed us

[1:24:04] about our consolidating when the legislators were threatened us, what's

[1:24:11] it called? Opega. I was put on years ago. And,

[1:24:16] um, we came up with a recommendation, Opega did all

[1:24:19] the research. But cities have to do two readings for

[1:24:23] ordinances. But all the 57 counties don't. They only have

[1:24:26] to do one reading. And they were trying to look

[1:24:29] at ways to for government to be more efficient and

[1:24:32] we brought that to the legislators like, why do cities

[1:24:35] have to do too when counties only have to do

[1:24:38] one. But it never went anywhere if the legislator. But

[1:24:41] that's the kind of stuff that we could, you know,

[1:24:43] with this stuff and moment three and all this stuff.

[1:24:46] You may want to look at it. Yeah. Okay. Um,

[1:24:49] thank you. That's all I have. Thank you. Steve. No?

[1:24:57] Yes. No, thank you. Yeah. No, nothing for me, mayor.

[1:25:04] I know. Okay. The city attorney. And we have questions

[1:25:10] or comments from the staff. Chief. Updates for y'all. My

[1:25:16] usual stats here. Since Helene, we're almost up to 5,

[1:25:21] 000 permits issued. 1, 500 and 41 this year alone.

[1:25:27] Plan reviews. We're over 14, 000 total inspections wherever 19,

[1:25:31] 000. We have 104 demo permits now. Um, I think

[1:25:35] last time we reported, we were at night. I heard

[1:25:37] four what? Demo permits. We have 39 of those have

[1:25:40] applied for new single family homes. So we've got a

[1:25:43] backlog of, we have 39 that have applied for new

[1:25:46] homes. And we received 104 demo permits. How many of

[1:25:52] those are in R1 and how many are in R2.

[1:25:54] I don't know that. Breakdown. I'm not sure the breakdown.

[1:26:02] If you could work that out sometime, I think that'd

[1:26:05] be helpful for us to know. It kind of gives

[1:26:06] us an idea. What kind of rentals we're going to

[1:26:08] get. Out. Of. Uh, we now have six homes that

[1:26:15] are utilizing the elevate Florida program. The last time we

[1:26:18] reported there were three. The additional, uh, HPMG funding. Is

[1:26:24] additional units. And we have 151 active turtlenes. It's impressive.

[1:26:32] And 1611 vacation on the certificates. Chief? I'll just give

[1:26:40] you one first two weeks of school. We've had 55

[1:26:43] people that have exceeded the speed. And I believe nine

[1:26:47] of them are island residents. Questomount now. We did have.

[1:26:55] I don't know if y'all saw it on Facebook, but

[1:26:56] we did have them publicly. Was my name Jessica. Jessica,

[1:27:01] did you get one? No. No. Oh, no. But we

[1:27:03] did have one person last Wednesday that came out in

[1:27:06] the morning and was doing 31 miles an hour. And

[1:27:10] then as he left the island in the afternoon, he

[1:27:12] was doing 28. So he was given two tickets in

[1:27:15] one day, uh, speeding in the school zone. Crazy. And

[1:27:19] he received the citation in January of this year. So

[1:27:23] he should have known. Okay. You won't get a Christmas

[1:27:27] card for him. I've been, I'll open it up for

[1:27:31] public comment one more time. Everybody wants to come up.

[1:27:35] You got five minutes to talk about anything. And I

[1:27:39] apologize for my voice. I've known of two people are

[1:27:42] actually in the hospital with COVID. So I tested myself

[1:27:44] before I came here. I just got a cold. Okay.

[1:27:47] With that, this meeting's adjourned at 3. 30. Thank you.

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