[0:07] >> Thank you. Good evening,

[0:08] everyone, and welcome

[0:09] to the first council meeting

[0:10] of the new council. Ms.

[0:13] Taylor.

[0:15] >>[CALLING ROLL]

[0:56] >> Mayor, you have a quorum.

[0:58] >> Thank you, Ms. Taylor.

[0:59] Okay, let's do the Pledge of

[1:01] Allegiance again today.

[1:02] >> I pledge allegiance to the

[1:04] Flag of the United States of

[1:07] America and to the Republic

[1:09] for which it stands, one

[1:11] Nation under God, indivisible,

[1:13] with liberty and justice

[1:15] for all.

[1:20] >> Can I have a motion

[1:21] to approve the agenda,

[1:22] please?

[1:23] >> So moved.

[1:25] >> Second.

[1:26] >> Been moved and seconded.

[1:27] All in favor?

[1:28] >> Aye.

[1:32] >> Any opposed? Any Abstentions?

[1:34] Seeing none,

[1:35] the ayes have it. Public

[1:37] comment.

[1:39] >> We will go to the attendees.

[1:41] If you'd like

[1:42] to make a public comment,

[1:43] please use the raised hand

[1:44] feature now. You will have two

[1:46] minutes to speak. Please state

[1:47] your name and the ward that you

[1:48] live in. We'll start with

[1:50] Melissa Schweisgoth. Melissa,

[1:52] you should be able

[1:53] to unmute yourself.

[1:56] >> Good evening,

[1:57] mayor and council. Can you hear

[1:59] me?

[2:00] >> Yes, we can.

[2:02] >> Great. So welcome

[2:03] to our new councilors. We're

[2:04] really excited

[2:05] for the new energy to come to

[2:06] the council and you all ran

[2:07] great campaigns. I appreciate

[2:08] that. Very positive. My name is

[2:10] Melissa Schweizekuth. I live

[2:11] in Ward 5. Wanted

[2:12] to speak very quickly in the

[2:13] West Hyattsville Corner

[2:15] Queens Chapel sector plan and

[2:16] sma. I understand you're

[2:17] getting a presentation this

[2:18] evening. And my understanding

[2:20] is that the county,

[2:21] the city will. Then the council

[2:22] will recommend some comments

[2:23] that the city will send. I did

[2:25] want to flag the upzoning that

[2:26] they're proposing to change

[2:27] every single RSF65 property

[2:29] to RSFA,

[2:30] which means that right now,

[2:32] properties that have only one

[2:33] home on them would be able

[2:34] to put up to three, you know,

[2:36] a townhouse, a three unit

[2:37] townhouse, or a triplex, or

[2:38] possibly two houses. I don't

[2:40] oppose that for my property,

[2:42] but it is a really big change.

[2:44] I think Hyattsville really

[2:46] needs to think

[2:48] about the impacts. And

[2:49] Hyattsville did ask the county

[2:50] to do a missing middle study

[2:52] and they did one,

[2:53] but it didn't look

[2:55] at the impacts. So you might

[2:56] want to go back, you know,

[2:57] if you really do want that

[2:58] study to look

[3:00] at how much this will impact

[3:01] Hyattsville and our

[3:03] infrastructure,

[3:04] really push them

[3:06] to do that study. Before they

[3:08] do make the final decision

[3:10] to implement, I would like to

[3:12] see it be optional. I am a

[3:13] little concerned that it's

[3:15] going

[3:16] to raise my property taxes,

[3:17] it'll increase the land value

[3:19] and I am concerned

[3:20] about that that impact

[3:21] on others getting priced out.

[3:23] There are recommendations for

[3:24] mitigating gentrification and

[3:25] pricing out of the market,

[3:26] but really none

[3:27] of those are realistic. So I

[3:29] hope that we can really push

[3:30] on the county to have more

[3:32] of an implementation plan

[3:34] around there so we don't see

[3:36] displacement as a result

[3:37] of this plan. And

[3:38] on the street lights,

[3:40] I certainly support conversion

[3:43] to LED. I would like to see the

[3:46] city do this as a competitive

[3:48] bid, not necessarily go with

[3:50] the contractor that did the

[3:52] study and is provides a

[3:53] service. And please make sure

[3:55] that these are dark

[3:57] sky compliant

[3:59] like the lights that we put

[4:01] on the trolley trail. Thank

[4:04] you. Have a great night.

[4:08] >> Back to the attendees. If

[4:09] you'd like to make a comment,

[4:10] please use the raised hand

[4:11] feature. Mr. Marshall, you

[4:14] should be able

[4:16] to unmute yourself.

[4:20] >> My name is

[4:22] Marshall. I live in Ward 4. I

[4:23] wanted to say welcome to the

[4:25] new council members. I hope

[4:27] that you have a very productive

[4:28] four years in your new

[4:30] positions. I am not going

[4:32] to talk

[4:34] about the sector plan because

[4:36] in my opinion it's useless.

[4:38] It's the county's going

[4:40] to go forward

[4:41] with it and we're going

[4:42] to be stuck

[4:45] with is how I see it. And you

[4:47] know, it is what it is. So I

[4:49] won't beat that dead horse.

[4:51] The dead horse I will beat

[4:53] happens to be the elections.

[4:54] The city elections.

[4:56] My family and I,

[4:59] if you go look

[5:00] at the records, did not vote

[5:01] in the last two elections

[5:03] in this city. One, we were

[5:05] moved from the ward we were in

[5:06] to Ward 4. This would be the

[5:08] second time our ward was

[5:10] changed which essentially our

[5:11] previous vote we voted for.

[5:13] Our votes essentially got

[5:17] thrown away because we got

[5:20] thrown out of our ward. Also,

[5:25] each ward has two council

[5:27] members. I can seem

[5:29] to only communicate with one

[5:31] of my council members. The

[5:32] other one won't have a

[5:34] conversation with me. So I

[5:35] don't feel

[5:37] like I'm represented. So why

[5:38] bother casting a vote? Thanks

[5:39] for your time.

[5:44] >> Back to the attendees,

[5:45] if you'd like

[5:46] to make a comment, please use

[5:47] the raised hand feature. Kurt

[5:52] Britzenhoff, you should be able

[5:54] to unmute yourself.

[5:58] >> Good afternoon, council

[6:00] members. This My name is Kurt

[6:01] Britzenhoff. I live in Ward 5.

[6:03] I agree with what Melissa

[6:05] Schweissgouth just said. So

[6:06] that basically takes care of my

[6:07] spiel right there. I do want

[6:09] to state though, I'm not sure

[6:10] if the prices are going

[6:12] to go up or if the prices for

[6:13] the lots or our houses are

[6:14] going to go down when they

[6:16] start implementing the sector

[6:17] plan. That is not clear. I have

[6:20] not seen it addressed in the

[6:21] 521 pages they provided. If it

[6:22] does go down, you know,

[6:24] being old and retired,

[6:27] I don't care. I'm going

[6:28] to die here. But for the young

[6:30] people that this is their main

[6:32] investment,

[6:33] that could be a real hit

[6:34] on their fund. So I hope

[6:36] somebody's looking

[6:37] at that and I hope that this,

[6:38] the county and the city

[6:40] understand that prices aren't

[6:41] going to go down.

[6:42] But I don't know that. So that

[6:44] is a good question

[6:46] to ask and also to relay

[6:47] to some of the younger folks

[6:48] around here. Thank you.

[6:57] >> Back to the attendees. If

[6:58] you'd like to make a comment,

[6:59] use the raised hand feature.

[7:02] Pat Padua, you should be able

[7:06] to unmute yourself.

[7:11] >> Thank you. Good evening,

[7:12] councilmembers. My name is

[7:14] Pat Padua. I'm in Ward 3, which

[7:16] I an unincorporated part

[7:17] of the area,

[7:19] which I believe is not

[7:20] under the jurisdiction

[7:22] of the city of Hyattsville.

[7:25] And my question and comment is

[7:26] about the rezoning proposal.

[7:27] It is my understanding that

[7:29] in the previous draft

[7:31] of the proposal, Avondale

[7:33] Grove, which is the

[7:34] neighborhood where I live

[7:36] in and of which I'm president

[7:38] of the citizens Association.

[7:39] Pardon the dogs. Avondale

[7:41] Grove was not part

[7:44] of the original plan. And

[7:45] in draft three,

[7:47] it has suddenly become part

[7:49] of the plan. Now, we don't know

[7:51] why the city of Hyattsville

[7:53] has added Avondale Grove

[7:55] without any

[7:56] of our residents input

[7:58] into this rezoning plan. And

[8:00] I've spoken to my neighbors and

[8:01] fellow members of the board and

[8:03] we're all roundly opposed

[8:06] to it for a variety

[8:07] of reasons. Safety, historical,

[8:09] infrastructure,

[8:11] environmental. I could go on,

[8:12] but I only have a few minutes.

[8:14] But I just want

[8:15] to express our opposition

[8:17] to being part of this plan.

[8:18] You can do what you want

[8:20] in other areas of

[8:22] Heightsville. Avondale Grove is

[8:23] a charming,

[8:25] unique community and we want to

[8:27] preserve its quality and its

[8:28] safety for residents who are

[8:31] aging and the young families

[8:33] coming into the neighborhood.

[8:35] Thank you for your time.

[8:43] >> Back to the attendees. Last

[8:46] call for anybody that would

[8:49] like

[8:50] to make a public comment,

[8:52] please use the raised hand

[8:53] feature. Sharon Stokes, you

[8:54] should be able

[8:56] to unmute yourself.

[8:58] >> Hey, my name is Rossell

[8:59] Durant. I'm under calling

[9:01] under Sharon Stokes,

[9:03] but I live in the area of

[9:05] Avondale Terrace. Mr. Padua

[9:06] mentioned Avondale Grove,

[9:08] but there's also Avondale

[9:10] Terrace and North Woodridge.

[9:11] That's also included

[9:13] in the change

[9:16] to the sector plan. And I ditto

[9:18] everything that he said

[9:20] regarding this. We were not

[9:23] included in the discussion as

[9:25] far as I know of. I happen

[9:27] to be president of the Avon

[9:28] Ridge CDC,

[9:30] which is a sister organization

[9:32] to Mr. Padua's organization.

[9:35] So everything he said, I

[9:38] ditto but I wanted to make.

[9:40] He mentioned Avondale Grove. I

[9:42] wanted to mention Avondale

[9:44] Terrace in addition to North

[9:46] Woodridge. Thank you.

[9:56] >> Back to the attendees. If

[9:57] you'd like to make a comment,

[9:58] please use the raised hand

[10:01] feature. Seeing none. That

[10:05] concludes public comment.

[10:06] >> Thank you. Mr. Groenendyk. I

[10:07] don't think that we added any

[10:08] additional territory to

[10:10] Hyattville, did we? Mr.

[10:11] Solomon, did you have a comment

[10:14] to me?

[10:16] >> We did not. But the planning

[10:17] board.

[10:18] For council members and staff,

[10:19] Avondale is the neighborhood

[10:21] that sits between us and the

[10:22] District of Columbia and I

[10:25] thank their members

[10:30] for attending tonight.

[10:32] But it's not the city of

[10:33] Hyattsville who has added

[10:35] additional portions

[10:36] of your community because

[10:38] Avondale was always included

[10:39] in the sector plan update. The

[10:41] planning board and the. This

[10:43] would be the planning board and

[10:46] the district council who has

[10:48] expanded what they. What they

[10:50] need to look at. So the person

[10:52] that you would need to speak

[10:54] to is Councilwoman Fisher

[10:56] in order to resolve the

[10:57] discrepancies that you have

[10:58] Hyattsville.

[11:00] But we're just responding

[11:01] to what they sent to us. We

[11:03] don't make the changes

[11:04] around what areas

[11:07] are included. We just talk

[11:09] about the areas that are

[11:10] specific to Hyattsville

[11:11] in the map. Thank you.

[11:14] >> Thank you

[11:16] for that clarification. Ms.

[11:17] Douglas, you're up.

[11:18] >> Okay, thank you. Mayor and

[11:19] council and residents,

[11:20] welcome. I'm going

[11:22] to share my screen.

[11:44] Are you seeing that?

[11:46] >> Yes, we got it.

[11:47] >> Okay, good. All right,

[11:49] I'm going to move

[11:50] through this fairly quickly, so

[11:52] this is the agenda that I will

[11:53] follow. Just pull this over. I

[12:01] do want to once again,

[12:03] and I know you've heard it a

[12:05] few times, but I want to

[12:07] welcome our new councilmembers.

[12:10] They were sworn

[12:12] in this afternoon. Tracy, can

[12:14] you fix your screen?

[12:16] >> Yeah. We're seeing resume

[12:18] slideshow.

[12:21] >> You're not seeing the

[12:22] slideshow?

[12:24] >> Nope.

[12:25] >> Now we are.

[12:26] >> Oh, okay. All right. So am I

[12:27] on? Let's see. All right, how

[12:28] about now? You seeing the new

[12:30] councilmembers?

[12:31] >> We got it.

[12:32] >> All right, so these are the

[12:34] new councilmembers that were

[12:35] sworn in today. Councilmember

[12:36] Barnes for Ward 1.

[12:38] Councilmember Dhokai, Ward 3.

[12:39] Councilmember Nisbett from

[12:41] Ward 5. Those are the new

[12:42] councilmembers. And we want

[12:44] to welcome back councilmember

[12:46] Strab and councilmember Haba.

[12:48] Councilmember Schaible, Ward 2

[12:51] and Haba, Ward 4. Ladies and

[12:53] gentlemen, this is your new

[12:55] city council. I want

[12:57] to just acknowledge Ms.

[13:02] Dorothy Mims, who

[13:04] lives in Independence court.

[13:07] She is 112 years old this

[13:09] month,

[13:11] and she's been a resident of

[13:13] Hyattsville since 2010, the

[13:14] oldest living resident

[13:16] in the state of Maryland.

[13:17] Her mother, in fact,

[13:20] lived to be 102. So I just want

[13:23] to acknowledge her and let her

[13:24] know that we're happy

[13:25] to have her here in

[13:27] Hyattsville. And mayor and

[13:29] council members, we may go

[13:30] by and visit Ms. Mims.

[13:32] But isn't she beautiful? Look

[13:33] at that. When she was younger.

[13:36] We're just happy to have her.

[13:39] She's still beautiful. All

[13:41] right. Leslie is stepping down.

[13:43] Leslie's been serving on mml.

[13:44] She's been the MML league and

[13:45] most recently president

[13:47] for the last seven years. She

[13:48] decided not to run

[13:49] for re election.

[13:50] But you'll see here some of the

[13:52] things that she actually helped

[13:53] lead as many

[13:54] of the other cities in

[13:56] Maryland through COVID,

[13:57] Snowstorms, political

[13:59] landscapes, heat waves. She's

[14:00] done a lot. It is time for her

[14:02] to step down. So they will be

[14:03] acknowledging her

[14:05] at this upcoming MML session.

[14:07] But she's been an asset

[14:08] to them. And so we thank

[14:10] Leslie

[14:11] for representing the city of

[14:13] Hyattsville and all of her.

[14:15] All of our municipal partners

[14:17] in the state of Maryland. We

[14:19] also want to acknowledge that

[14:21] they hosted a DPW open house.

[14:22] And so we thank them

[14:23] for doing that. You can see two

[14:24] of our council members riding

[14:26] in our trash trucks. I think

[14:27] that's one

[14:29] of our newest trash trucks.

[14:30] And you know,

[14:32] the guys just had it. Guys and

[14:33] ladies just had a great time

[14:35] out there that day.

[14:36] It was a rainy day. But we do

[14:38] appreciate council member,

[14:40] Dr. And Councilor Redmond

[14:42] participating and coming

[14:45] out the visit. Long

[14:47] awaited. We finally got that

[14:49] sign up. Ward wards 4 and 5.

[14:51] We now have a sign right

[14:53] over there by Kaiser

[14:54] Permanente. The residents

[14:55] in that area will now be able

[14:56] to find out what's going on

[14:58] in the city of Hyattsville. So

[14:59] stay tuned for any updates.

[15:00] Our K9 did some great work.

[15:03] Hugo and Forest, we have two of

[15:06] them and they won first place

[15:08] awards. They were the best

[15:09] of the best. And you know,

[15:11] we continue

[15:12] to have our K9s place. So we're

[15:14] always really excited. It's

[15:16] Corporal Hodges and Acting

[15:18] Sergeant Quevedo who are their

[15:19] partners and trainers. So we're

[15:21] just really proud

[15:22] of our two K9s. And we just had

[15:27] a police unity tour. Scott

[15:30] Hurley rides

[15:32] in that every year. He's done

[15:33] that for the past 13 years

[15:34] over 250 mile ride with people

[15:35] from across the region. And so

[15:37] we just want to thank him

[15:39] for doing that. He does that

[15:40] in honor of fallen officers and

[15:42] specifically rides

[15:44] for our own fallen officers,

[15:45] Corporal Robert King, who

[15:47] passed away in. Who died in

[15:50] 1984 in the line of duty

[15:52] on a motorcycle. Chief, if you

[15:53] were on. I'll let you talk

[15:55] about this. I asked Chief

[15:57] to talk about this just a

[15:58] little bit because whenever we

[16:00] contract with an agency and

[16:02] they're doing great work

[16:04] for us, I just want you all to

[16:05] know how they're representing

[16:07] our community. JP there.

[16:20] >> Yes, ma' am. Sorry about

[16:21] that. I'm having a computer

[16:22] issue over here. So Kathy is an

[16:24] organization that council

[16:25] approved a contract with that

[16:27] provides victim services to

[16:28] police departments throughout

[16:30] the county. They are tied

[16:32] into our CAD and RMS system.

[16:33] So they receive automatic

[16:35] reports from our RMS once

[16:36] our officers file a report.

[16:39] And then they contact victims

[16:41] of crimes to make sure that

[16:42] they have the resources they

[16:44] need, ranging from housing,

[16:45] mental health resources,

[16:48] assistance

[16:50] with financial fraud, things

[16:51] of that nature. So so far,

[16:52] for the first quarter of

[16:54] 2025, they had 65 referrals.

[16:56] They break that down. The

[16:58] average age of a victim was 33

[16:59] years old. You can see there

[17:01] was a little bit more. That

[17:03] number's a little bit higher on

[17:05] the female versus male victims.

[17:07] And then the crimes that

[17:08] they contacted victims were

[17:10] for assault, financial fraud,

[17:12] domestic incidents, robbery,

[17:13] rape and sexual assault and

[17:14] carjacking, with domestic

[17:16] incidents and assaults being

[17:17] the highest and then also

[17:19] sexual assaults. They provide a

[17:21] report back to us

[17:22] for the quarter. This is the

[17:24] first time we're receiving a

[17:26] quarterly report that we can

[17:27] share with with the community

[17:28] that shows the types

[17:31] of crimes that the victims are.

[17:33] The types of crimes that

[17:34] victims are being receiving

[17:36] services from Cafey. I believe

[17:37] that's it.

[17:39] >> Yeah. Thank you. And I just

[17:41] thought it was important

[17:43] for you all

[17:44] to hear a little bit about that

[17:45] because we've always been

[17:46] concerned that if a person is a

[17:47] victim

[17:48] of crime that we follow up

[17:49] with them, make sure they're

[17:50] getting the resources and the

[17:52] help that they need. So this is

[17:53] one of the programs that you

[17:54] all allowed us to partner

[17:55] with and contract with

[17:57] to do that for our community.

[17:58] So I just wanted you to hear

[17:59] that they are doing

[18:00] great work here

[18:03] in the community. Okay. And

[18:05] then we had a community

[18:07] conversation last week,

[18:09] last Thursday, I believe it

[18:11] was. The title was Bridging

[18:12] Faith through Interfaith

[18:14] Engagement. And we had five,

[18:16] as you can see there, five

[18:17] different religious leaders

[18:19] that came together and spoke

[18:21] Hindu Buddha, Rabbi, our own

[18:22] pastor, Penn Islam. It

[18:26] was a really good conversation.

[18:29] They really, they focused

[18:32] on what things we have

[18:34] in common, regardless

[18:36] of the faith.

[18:37] How are we alike

[18:39] in more ways than not? And so

[18:41] we appreciate our partners.

[18:42] It's Kelly Barillo, Julia

[18:44] Gaspar Bates, and Ann Claire

[18:46] Stacy who are the ones that

[18:48] always put that together

[18:49] for us and host these. And they

[18:50] come up

[18:51] with the topics and work

[18:52] with our own Shakira Louimar

[18:54] to pull these

[18:55] off and make these happen.

[18:57] Okay. And then I want

[18:59] to thank members

[19:00] of the community and some

[19:01] of our council members. You can

[19:02] see councilmember Waszczak

[19:03] there who participated

[19:05] in interviewing some

[19:06] of our young adults. Young, our

[19:08] youth 16. Sandra, correct me,

[19:11] I think it's 15 through 18

[19:13] members that we would like

[19:15] to be part of our youth

[19:17] Advisory Council. They

[19:18] participated

[19:19] in our leadership program. And

[19:20] so then we just kind of sit

[19:21] down and talk to them and

[19:23] determine if they are the right

[19:24] group to actually lead us

[19:25] for the next year. So I

[19:27] appreciate everyone that

[19:28] participated and helped us make

[19:30] the selections and

[19:31] help the kids learn how to

[19:33] interview and answer questions

[19:34] and take on some leadership

[19:37] responsibility. Sandra,

[19:38] am I missing anything there?

[19:40] >> No, ma' am.

[19:42] >> Thank you

[19:45] to your team, for doing that.

[19:47] And then they also did the

[19:48] Aging and Wellness Lunch and

[19:49] Learn Workshop. And that was

[19:52] the, that was for seniors. So

[19:55] we call that Aging and

[19:56] Wellness Programs. But they did

[19:58] a Dawn Taft, our resident

[19:59] arborist, spoke to the seniors

[20:01] about environmental programs

[20:02] and some of the things that the

[20:04] city offers. And then tomorrow

[20:05] we'll have the Art Home is

[20:07] Art Class, and it'll be the

[20:09] last class for that. But that

[20:11] always gets a really great

[20:12] turnout. And our seniors love

[20:13] coming out and working

[20:15] on art projects. So we'll

[20:16] resume again after the

[20:17] summer. Back to

[20:19] School Supply Drive and

[20:21] Summer Jam. So Summer Jams,

[20:23] this is the schedule. So we'll

[20:25] have the Back to School

[20:26] Supply Drive on August 15th.

[20:28] So that's just a reminder that

[20:30] people can begin dropping

[20:31] off donations now

[20:33] until the end of, until August

[20:35] 15th. And then our Summer Jam

[20:39] series. The schedule is the

[20:41] Pride Month celebration.

[20:42] That's on June 20th. Then we

[20:44] have a backyard barbecue.

[20:46] That's going to be July 28th.

[20:47] Sorry, July 18th, right here

[20:49] at the city Building. And then

[20:50] International Heritage,

[20:51] Hispanic heritage. That'll be

[20:53] September 19th. August is

[20:55] missing there, as you can see.

[20:57] But that is usually National

[20:58] Night Out. So we,

[21:00] we focus there on National

[21:02] Night Out. And that's also

[21:04] going

[21:06] to be the time that we're going

[21:08] to be doing the back

[21:10] to school drive. And our teen

[21:12] center is really coming along.

[21:14] The interior is looking

[21:16] absolutely fabulous. They've

[21:18] done some painting in there.

[21:21] They put in the new floors and

[21:22] walls which look really,

[21:24] looking really good. And then

[21:25] the equipment's installed

[21:26] around the outside. They

[21:28] started working

[21:29] on the park outside. So it's

[21:30] looking good. If you have a

[21:31] chance to drive by, you'll see

[21:32] some, some really nice things

[21:34] happening out there. So we're

[21:35] getting excited. I am not going

[21:36] to read all of the offerings

[21:37] this time because as you know,

[21:39] we have a six week break

[21:40] after this. And so it is a lot

[21:41] of reading. So I will read the

[21:42] weekly offerings. Just remind

[21:43] everyone we have the seated

[21:44] exercise class

[21:45] for older adults. We have the

[21:46] Zumba class, that both

[21:47] of those are on Mondays. I'm

[21:49] sorry, Monday and Wednesday

[21:50] for the Zumba. And the exercise

[21:51] classes on Wednesdays only

[21:52] from 10 to 11. That's seated

[21:54] for older adults. And then the

[21:55] digital literacy instruction

[21:56] classes are on Wednesdays as

[21:58] well from 12

[21:59] to 1pm all.

[22:02] This is what I mean

[22:03] about reading. It's a lot. So

[22:05] these are all of the committees

[22:07] that are coming up

[22:08] for the residents. These will

[22:09] all be posted online. And if

[22:11] you have any questions and you

[22:12] have a problem finding these or

[22:13] looking online, feel free to

[22:15] call our number and we can talk

[22:17] to you about it then. And we

[22:18] always put out notices, so if

[22:20] you're not getting our text

[22:21] alerts, please sign up

[22:23] for those. And here's some more

[22:24] upcoming events. I'm just going

[22:25] to scan through these and see

[22:27] if there's any Community

[22:28] Shred Day. I do want

[22:30] to acknowledge that that's

[22:33] Saturday, September 7th. We

[22:34] have not had that in a while,

[22:37] Ward 1. I also will acknowledge

[22:40] that one. That's the

[22:41] Saturday, June 7th. That's the

[22:43] check in. We will likely have a

[22:44] walk and talk. The first one

[22:46] this month, that will be with

[22:47] Ward 2. But we'll get back

[22:49] to everyone with the date

[22:50] of that. And you'll see that

[22:52] seniors on the go are also

[22:53] having a cookout on June 10th.

[22:55] And so you see some other

[22:57] things. There's a traffic

[22:58] calming public hearing and

[23:00] let's see, that's on June 11th.

[23:03] Okay. And let me go

[23:05] to the next one.

[23:06] But there's a lot going on. So

[23:08] all of this again is listed on

[23:09] our website. I just don't want

[23:11] to go through it all.

[23:12] I will acknowledge the

[23:14] Trolley Trail Day that's on

[23:16] Saturday, June 14th. And then

[23:18] staycation registration opens

[23:20] today and it's going to go

[23:21] through June 17th. So if you're

[23:23] interested in signing up

[23:26] for that, there's some early

[23:27] dismissal camps Juneteenth.

[23:28] Our offices are closed

[23:30] on that day. That's June 19th.

[23:31] >> So, Ms. Douglas.

[23:32] >> Yes.

[23:35] >> When is Community Shred?

[23:36] >> Let me go right back to that

[23:38] because I'm sorry I moved.

[23:40] Let's see. Community Shred day

[23:45] is Saturday, June 7th.

[23:57] >> Okay.

[23:59] >> I thought you said

[24:01] September.

[24:03] >> I hope I didn't,

[24:05] but if I did, I do apologize

[24:06] for that. Saturday, June 7,

[24:08] from 10 to 1pm that's

[24:09] Community Shred Day.

[24:10] >> Thank you.

[24:12] >> Okay. You're welcome. Let's

[24:13] see. Business license renewal,

[24:14] Monday the 30th and parking,

[24:15] residential parking permits

[24:16] for Zone 4 is also

[24:18] on the 30th. Again, these will

[24:19] all be listed on the website so

[24:22] you can find them. And then my

[24:23] last slide. I do want

[24:25] to wish several members of the

[24:27] staff and council a very happy

[24:29] birthday. They will celebrate

[24:30] their birthdays while we're

[24:32] going. Director Riddle just had

[24:34] her birthday this past

[24:36] Saturday. Council member

[24:37] Redmond, June 18. Council

[24:38] member Barnes, June 26. Chief

[24:39] of police is on July 1. Our own

[24:41] deputy city clerk is July 7.

[24:42] And our deputy chief

[24:44] of police is July 16. All these

[24:45] before we meet again. So I do

[24:48] want

[24:51] to just acknowledge that. And

[24:53] mayor and council, that is it

[24:55] for me. I'm going

[24:56] to stop share in case you have

[24:58] any questions.

[24:59] >> Thank you. Colleagues, any

[25:02] questions? Mr. Schaible?

[25:06] >> Yeah, there was one event on

[25:07] the calendar that I wasn't

[25:09] familiar with. I think it said

[25:10] 43rd street meeting on 43rd

[25:12] in Jefferson. It was tomorrow.

[25:15] Do you have more details

[25:19] on what that event is?

[25:25] >> Leslie, do you have that

[25:26] one?

[25:28] >> It's a traffic calming

[25:29] meeting with the residents.

[25:30] There was a petition there,

[25:32] as far as I know.

[25:33] >> We've had a couple meetings

[25:35] with residents.

[25:36] >> We've had lots of meetings

[25:38] over the last three weeks,

[25:39] I would say.

[25:41] But this one is tomorrow from

[25:43] at 6pm and it's the

[25:45] intersection Jefferson and

[25:47] 43rd.

[25:49] >> Thank you. Mr. Redmond?

[25:52] >> Thank you. Happy belated

[25:56] birthday to our DPW director.

[25:58] And I will give you the gift

[26:00] of a question

[26:01] for all these traffic meetings.

[26:03] What is the plan? I know there

[26:05] is one. I just don't know it.

[26:08] As far as there's a bunch

[26:13] of intake right now. When will

[26:14] we start to see kind

[26:16] of whatever that next step is

[26:18] coming back around?

[26:19] >> Thank you, councilmember.

[26:24] And unfortunately, Taylor's

[26:26] been working hard at getting

[26:28] these separate petitions and

[26:29] requests together as

[26:31] collaboratively

[26:35] as possible. It's a good thing,

[26:37] but it's also a bad thing

[26:38] because it takes us away

[26:42] from a lot of the larger

[26:43] projects that were recommended

[26:44] in the traffic study. And so it

[26:46] compartmentalizes our capacity

[26:47] to really get things done,

[26:48] like we're trying to do in

[26:51] West Hyattsville. In the

[26:53] West Hyattsville project,

[26:54] which is now along Jamestown

[26:56] Road. A lot of different things

[26:57] we're working on

[26:59] with several different of our

[27:01] firms that we've contracted

[27:03] with. So, I mean, ultimately,

[27:05] it's to come to a decision.

[27:07] It's to start

[27:08] with a temporary mitigation,

[27:10] which is often more permanent.

[27:12] Like on Jefferson, we did

[27:14] temporary, but that will

[27:15] eventually become permanent,

[27:16] if indeed it is effective. So

[27:19] that's typically how we go

[27:20] about this, but she has seven

[27:22] or eight petitions already,

[27:24] and so it really drags us

[27:25] around to different.

[27:28] Like I said,

[27:30] it's good and yet it's

[27:31] difficult because it takes away

[27:32] a lot of our energy

[27:34] from larger projects. If that

[27:36] makes sense to you.

[27:39] >> That does. I guess my second

[27:40] question is, I just saw,

[27:43] or just saw

[27:46] through this presentation, the

[27:48] January or June 10th

[27:49] Belchrest Road meeting. Do you

[27:52] know if anyone from the city

[27:54] will be there?

[27:57] >> Yes, I know for sure.

[27:59] Taylor will be there, and I

[28:01] will probably be there as well.

[28:02] >> And if I cannot make it

[28:04] because there's another meeting

[28:05] happening,

[28:06] then will we elevate the

[28:07] concern

[28:09] of just the current state of

[28:11] Belchrest Road, specifically.

[28:12] >> Okay.

[28:14] >> I mean, I know the part

[28:15] with the 711 being built.

[28:17] I get that.

[28:19] But the intersection of

[28:20] East West, where it looks

[28:21] like craters,

[28:22] and then the fire station. So

[28:24] I'm just putting this

[28:25] out here. If I'm not there,

[28:27] someone's going to need

[28:30] to hear

[28:31] about it. I'm just asking.

[28:32] >> They've heard

[28:33] about it repeatedly from us.

[28:34] Yeah, but it's good. They'll

[28:35] hear it again.

[28:36] >> Okay, thank you.

[28:38] >> I think we invite all

[28:39] of the councilmembers

[28:40] to these meetings, but what

[28:42] we'll do is just send an email

[28:43] out with a list of the upcoming

[28:44] meetings so that the council

[28:46] members can put them

[28:48] on their calendars. Yeah.

[28:51] Because it sounded

[28:52] like you and you and

[28:54] Councilman Shively weren't

[28:55] aware of meetings

[28:56] in your area, so. Yeah, so

[28:57] we'll make sure we get that

[28:59] out. Nate, would you just make

[29:01] a note on that, please? Good.

[29:03] Yeah. Taylor's been working

[29:05] hard, just trying to get

[29:07] out and about and meet with

[29:08] residents who have written us

[29:10] just to understand their

[29:11] concerns and walk the area

[29:13] with them. Some of these will

[29:14] also lend themselves to the

[29:16] walk and talks that we're

[29:17] scheduling where the DPW

[29:18] director, the Chief of Police

[29:19] and any other leadership will

[29:20] come out and walk

[29:21] with the councilmembers

[29:23] in the communities through

[29:25] their neighborhoods.

[29:28] >> Okay, thank you. Anyone else

[29:29] have any questions? Seeing

[29:32] none. Thank you, Ms. Douglas.

[29:33] >> You're welcome. Thank you.

[29:36] >> Okay, we are going to move

[29:37] on now. We have a presentation,

[29:38] the West Hyattsville-Queens

[29:42] Chapel Sector Plan. So who's

[29:47] going to take that

[29:48] from staff?

[29:50] >> Jeff will lead that.

[29:51] >> Okay, Jeff.

[29:53] >> Good evening and welcome to

[29:55] all the new councilmembers and

[29:56] the existing ones as well.

[29:57] This afternoon we have this

[29:59] presentation as mentioned,

[30:00] est Hyattsville-Queens Chapel

[30:01] Sector Plan update. This has

[30:03] been for been

[30:05] before the council a number

[30:06] of times. July 22, 2022. It was

[30:09] before you the first iteration

[30:10] of this plan. The second

[30:13] iteration was released May

[30:15] of last year. However, there's

[30:17] been some. Essentially there

[30:19] was a request

[30:21] by the planning department

[30:22] to remand the staff draft two

[30:24] for essentially

[30:25] to reconsider the Queen's

[30:27] Chapel Manor and other

[30:29] neighborhoods

[30:30] for the missing middle housing,

[30:32] as well as

[30:34] to analyze the impacts of the

[30:37] Housing Expansion

[30:39] Affordability act that was

[30:41] signed to law this past year.

[30:43] 2024, April of 2024, as well as

[30:46] I believe, a number

[30:48] of other concerns. So we have

[30:50] Parker planning staff that

[30:51] that's essentially here as well

[30:53] as. Looks like we have

[30:54] Director hall that will be

[30:56] on the call with us as well

[30:57] that will provide us

[30:59] with a briefing

[31:01] on their findings

[31:03] in this new iteration, which

[31:04] you, which you can find

[31:06] on the website,

[31:08] the city's website. There's a

[31:09] link for that if you'd like

[31:11] to review that. Feel free

[31:12] to do so. Last summer we did

[31:14] have a number of questions,

[31:15] concerns that were submitted

[31:16] to parking planning staff. Did

[31:18] it provide a response?

[31:20] But I think this, this period

[31:22] of research and additional

[31:24] analysis has offered some

[31:25] additional information that I

[31:26] think council and the community

[31:27] at large could benefit from.

[31:29] So tonight I'd like

[31:30] to introduce Tony Felt, Thomas

[31:31] Lester, Justin Thornton and

[31:32] of course Director Hall

[31:34] to provide the presentation

[31:35] for tonight.

[31:45] >> Okay, who's going

[31:46] to present?

[31:51] >> I can kick off the

[31:52] presentation. Looks

[31:54] like we're all set. Can

[32:02] everyone see the PowerPoint?

[32:05] >> Yes, we see it.

[32:07] >> Great. Thank you, Mayor,

[32:08] members of the council

[32:11] for the City of Hyattsville.

[32:12] I'm Thomas Lester, the

[32:14] Project Manager. Tonight,

[32:15] along with the Deputy Project

[32:16] Manager, Justin Thornton, we'll

[32:18] discuss the major changes

[32:20] to the third draft of the

[32:22] West Hyattsville-Queens

[32:24] Chapel Sector Plan and

[32:25] sectional map amendment. I'm

[32:27] also joined this evening by

[32:28] Tony Felt, Deputy Planning

[32:30] Director of Administration and

[32:31] I believe Lakeisha Hall, the

[32:34] Planning Directors.

[32:36] Also listening

[32:38] in the purpose

[32:39] of today's presentation is

[32:41] to introduce the third draft of

[32:43] the sector plan and the

[32:45] sectional map amendment and

[32:47] highlight the major changes

[32:48] between the second and the

[32:52] third drafts,

[32:55] specifically those that affect

[32:59] Hyattsville

[33:00] within the city limits. Next

[33:02] slide please. So tonight I'll

[33:03] first provide a quick

[33:05] background

[33:06] of the project and then Justin

[33:08] will dive into the major

[33:09] changes that have been applied

[33:10] since the second draft and then

[33:12] I'll conclude by going over the

[33:16] current schedule and what the

[33:18] next steps

[33:20] in the process are. Next slide

[33:22] please. In terms

[33:23] of the background,

[33:24] here's the timeline

[33:26] of key events

[33:27] for the plan and the SMA,

[33:28] highlighting the important

[33:29] milestones

[33:30] in the process leading up

[33:31] to today. On January 18,

[33:33] 2022, the County Council

[33:34] officiated officially initiate

[33:35] the sector plan in SMA. By

[33:37] July 28, 2022, the initial

[33:39] draft was released

[33:41] to the public

[33:42] for reviewing feedback and then

[33:44] Shortly after on October 11,

[33:45] 2022 we held the first joint

[33:46] public hearing. However, on

[33:47] December 15th of that year,

[33:49] the Planning Board remanded the

[33:50] draft and the proposals made

[33:51] back to staff

[33:52] for further revision. And then

[33:53] from January 2023 to May 2024

[33:54] the team worked on revising the

[33:55] second draft based on the

[33:57] feedback received and then

[33:58] October 1, 2024 we have an

[33:59] additional joint public hearing

[34:00] together input

[34:01] on the new draft and then

[34:02] finally on July, January 9,

[34:04] 2025 the Planning Board removed

[34:05] the draft once again for

[34:07] further revisions and then

[34:08] staff more recently requested

[34:10] and got approved the permission

[34:11] to release the third draft

[34:13] which was on April 24, 2025.

[34:16] Next slide please. So this

[34:19] slide just shows the sector

[34:22] plan and the SMA boundary which

[34:25] is primarily located within

[34:26] Planning Area 68. The area is

[34:28] entirely within Council manic

[34:29] District 2 and includes a

[34:30] portion of the City of

[34:32] Hyattsville, the Town of

[34:34] Brentwood and the City of

[34:36] Mount Rainier. The northern

[34:37] boundary

[34:39] of the area is defined by the

[34:40] Prince George's Plaza

[34:42] Regional Transit District and

[34:44] the southern boundary of but

[34:45] Washington. Additionally, the

[34:47] area surrounds the boundary

[34:48] of the 2006 West High School

[34:50] Transit District Development

[34:52] Plan. Next slide please. Based

[34:54] on community input from the

[34:56] last joint public hearing,

[34:58] staff were prompted

[35:00] to re review certain aspects

[35:01] of the plan. This included

[35:03] conducting a comprehensive

[35:04] review of the plan

[35:05] to ensure alignment with the

[35:06] recent legislative changes and

[35:08] evolving community needs.

[35:09] In response to HB 538 which

[35:11] took effect on January 1,

[35:13] 2025, the plan was reviewed and

[35:15] revised to support efforts in

[35:16] addressing affordable housing

[35:18] shortages. Similarly, updates

[35:21] were made

[35:22] to reflect the changes made

[35:23] to the zoning ordinance by

[35:24] Council Bill 1524, which

[35:26] revised sensitive standards

[35:28] across multiple zones.

[35:29] In addition

[35:31] to legislative review, staff

[35:33] assessed the potential loss of

[35:35] existing naturally occurring

[35:36] affordable units and develop

[35:37] strategies aimed at mitigating

[35:39] resident displacement. And then

[35:41] lastly, staff reviewed and

[35:43] revised the zoning for the

[35:45] single family detached

[35:46] residential neighborhoods

[35:47] throughout the entire sector

[35:48] plan area. I'm now going

[35:50] to turn it over to Justin

[35:51] to review the major changes.

[35:52] So next slide and Justin will

[35:54] take it away.

[35:57] >> All right, thank you,

[35:59] Thomas. So sorry. I just got to

[36:00] fix this sharing option really

[36:01] quickly. So I believe. Are you

[36:03] guys seeing my whole screen?

[36:10] >> No, there's nothing. There

[36:15] it is.

[36:20] >> It's nothing because I can't

[36:22] see it.

[36:23] >> We see it.

[36:24] >> I can't see on my end,

[36:27] so I just wanted

[36:28] to be sure.

[36:32] >> We can also see the,

[36:33] like the table of contents

[36:35] on the side.

[36:38] >> Oh, okay. All right. I see

[36:39] what's happening. Okay, how

[36:42] about now? Can you guys see?

[36:44] >> Yes.

[36:46] >> Let me try to. Okay. Is that

[36:49] better?

[36:53] >> Yep.

[36:56] >> Okay. Sorry about that,

[36:59] Thomas. Okay, so this slide

[37:06] outlines the major changes

[37:08] to the West Hyattsville-Queens

[37:10] Chapel Sector Plan.

[37:12] Generally, there were only

[37:14] major changes

[37:16] to the land use and zoning,

[37:18] transportation, housing and

[37:19] neighborhoods, community

[37:21] heritage corporation culture

[37:23] and design and public

[37:24] facilities plan elements.

[37:26] There were no major changes

[37:27] to the plan's vision or

[37:29] to the plan elements

[37:30] for economic prosperity,

[37:32] natural environment and healthy

[37:34] communities. Okay, now we'll

[37:35] take a look at the local

[37:37] transit center boundary. This

[37:39] slide highlights a major change

[37:42] to the language chapter and

[37:44] specifically a change in the

[37:45] West Hyattsville local transit

[37:47] center boundary

[37:50] from the previous draft. The

[37:52] boundary has been updated to

[37:53] reflect the addition and

[37:55] removal of certain right

[37:56] of ways. Additionally, several

[37:58] properties along Chillum Road

[37:59] have been returned

[38:01] to the center boundary,

[38:02] helping

[38:04] to ensure properties closest

[38:05] to the Metro station remain

[38:06] within the center. These

[38:08] changes aim

[38:09] to encourage growth near Metro

[38:10] while mitigating potential

[38:12] environmental impacts. Two new

[38:15] strategies have been added

[38:16] to the land use chapter

[38:17] under LU3 to address

[38:19] environmental risk and fair

[38:20] development. One strategy

[38:22] proposes a comprehensive

[38:23] floodplain study that explores

[38:25] creating a floodplain overlay

[38:26] zone in the zoning ordinance.

[38:27] The second strategy recommends

[38:29] exploring a transfer of right

[38:30] development program as a tool

[38:31] to redirect growth

[38:32] from sensitive areas

[38:34] to more appropriate areas.

[38:35] Okay, so another major change

[38:36] is the future land use map.

[38:38] Notably, all single family

[38:41] neighborhoods have been

[38:45] redesignated

[38:50] from residential medium

[38:55] to medium high,

[38:57] reflecting the push for more

[39:00] missing middle housing

[39:01] throughout the entire sector

[39:03] plan area and leveraging higher

[39:05] densities

[39:07] in an area that lies completely

[39:09] within the 10 minute bike shed

[39:11] to the Metro station.

[39:12] Additionally, the Washington

[39:14] Gas Light company property has

[39:16] been reclassified

[39:17] from institutional land use

[39:19] to mixed use,

[39:20] encouraging a diverse range

[39:22] of uses on the site. These

[39:24] updates are part of the Plan's

[39:26] broader vision to promote

[39:27] higher density development

[39:30] near the station. This slide is

[39:31] just for a reference

[39:35] but shows the existing zoning

[39:37] before we discuss the proposed

[39:39] zoning and to implement the

[39:41] Sector Plan's policies and land

[39:45] use recommendations. As we kind

[39:47] of just went over, the Sector

[39:49] Plan area proposes to

[39:50] reclassify properties

[39:51] throughout the plan boundary

[39:53] to bring zoning

[39:55] into conformance

[39:57] with the sector plan

[39:58] in the plan area. There are 38

[40:01] total proposed zoning changes

[40:03] on this slide we will be

[40:06] focusing

[40:10] on the three major changes

[40:12] for the City of Hyattsville.

[40:14] The zoning for all residential

[40:16] single family 65 or RSF 65

[40:18] areas have been replaced with

[40:19] residential single family

[40:21] attached or RSFA zone and is

[40:22] supported

[40:24] by the future land use map.

[40:25] This rezoning will allow

[40:28] for a more diverse range

[40:30] of housing types and allow

[40:31] for the construction

[40:33] of a house on a single 5,000

[40:34] square foot lot which is the

[40:36] predominant size

[40:38] in the community.

[40:39] Additionally, the Washington

[40:41] Gas Light Company property will

[40:43] be rezoned to Local Transit

[40:44] Oriented EDGE or LTOE

[40:45] to support Transit Oriented

[40:47] Development and transition away

[40:49] from industrial uses. As you

[40:50] will see late

[40:52] in the presentation,

[40:55] the change in Washington Gas

[40:58] Light property prompts a change

[41:00] regarding upgrades

[41:01] to bike pedestrian facilities,

[41:03] recommendations for Chillum

[41:05] Road and some intermediate

[41:07] design guidelines

[41:08] for the industrial uses. These

[41:10] zoning changes are reflected in

[41:12] the sectional map amendment as

[41:14] zoning changes 36, 37 and 38

[41:17] which we have in the table

[41:18] on the slide here. Okay, this

[41:22] slide highlights a major change

[41:25] in the transportation aspect

[41:26] of the West

[41:28] Hyattsville-Queens Chapel

[41:29] Sector Plan. The transportation

[41:31] plan has reconciled

[41:32] with the ongoing GO Prince

[41:33] George's Functional plan which

[41:35] involves updating street

[41:37] classification notations and

[41:39] making minor adjustments

[41:40] to the right of way whips. A

[41:42] key change resulting from the

[41:44] update is is the rezoning

[41:45] of the Washington Gaslight

[41:46] Company property which has led

[41:48] to the upgrade of Chillum Road

[41:50] from a neighborhood connector

[41:52] to a mixed use boulevard. This

[41:53] slide outlines a major change

[41:55] in the bicycle and pedestrian

[41:57] plan. The proposed T208 trail

[41:59] through WMATA's property has

[42:01] been deleted following a

[42:05] request from the Parks

[42:07] Department due to the extreme

[42:09] slopes and other fiscal

[42:11] challenges associated

[42:12] with that route.

[42:14] Additionally, the plan the

[42:16] planned bike lanes BL200 on

[42:18] Jamestown Road has been changed

[42:19] to a shared use path res 233.

[42:20] This adjustment was made to

[42:23] preserve the large mature trees

[42:25] along the road,

[42:26] ensuring they are not affected

[42:28] by any potential right of way

[42:29] widenings that would be needed

[42:31] to install bike lanes. The

[42:33] Housing and Neighborhood

[42:34] section of the Sector plan has

[42:39] been updated

[42:42] to place a stronger emphasis on

[42:43] anti displacement and

[42:45] affordable housing. It has been

[42:46] reorganized and expanded

[42:48] with new strategies, including

[42:49] recommending ongoing

[42:51] collaboration to continue

[42:53] developing anti displacement

[42:56] strategies

[42:57] beyond the plan's adoption,

[42:59] connecting residents at risk

[43:02] of displacement

[43:04] with free legal assistance,

[43:06] supporting local advocacy

[43:09] groups that help renters

[43:12] address rent increases,

[43:14] and encouraging the adoption

[43:16] of right to return policies

[43:18] for residents affected

[43:19] by redevelopment.

[43:21] Additionally, it calls

[43:22] for partnering

[43:23] with a nonprofit organization

[43:25] to establish a community land

[43:26] trust to create and maintain

[43:28] permanent affordable housing

[43:30] through collective ownership.

[43:31] In response to the Maryland

[43:32] Housing Expansion

[43:33] Affordability act, or HB538,

[43:35] the plan includes a new policy,

[43:36] HN4, to support increased

[43:37] housing density

[43:39] around the metro station

[43:40] for qualifying projects.

[43:41] Specifically, it allows a 30%

[43:42] density bonus for developments

[43:43] with at least 15% affordable

[43:44] housing units

[43:46] within three quarters

[43:47] of a mile of the West

[43:48] Highsville Metro station

[43:50] in certain zones. It also

[43:52] supports the development

[43:53] of missing middle housing in

[43:54] single family zones that meet

[43:56] location and affordability

[43:57] criteria. And with that,

[43:59] I will hand it back to Thomas

[44:00] to go over the remaining

[44:02] schedule.

[44:04] >> Thank you, Justin. Now,

[44:07] let's take a look

[44:08] at the schedule. We recently

[44:10] were given permission

[44:11] to print the third draft

[44:12] of the plan on April 24th

[44:14] of this year. Next up will be

[44:16] the joint public hearing,

[44:17] which is scheduled for July 1st

[44:18] of this year. We hope that the

[44:20] planning board work session

[44:22] with adoption and endorsement

[44:24] occurs in September and then

[44:26] followed by the District

[44:27] Council's work session in

[44:29] October

[44:31] with the final approval date

[44:32] in November, just before the

[44:33] December recess. Next slide.

[44:35] And that concludes staff's

[44:37] presentation. Thank you.

[44:50] >> Okay, can you stop sharing

[44:51] your screen, please? Thank you.

[44:54] Colleagues, questions. Mr.

[44:55] Solomon?

[44:58] >> Thank you. The last time

[45:01] that we had a presentation,

[45:03] one of the first. Thank you

[45:04] for the work that you've done

[45:10] on this. I think that you guys

[45:14] have been extremely transparent

[45:18] and forthcoming with us and

[45:20] about the things that you

[45:24] wanted

[45:27] to change and collaborative.

[45:29] Working in a collaborative way

[45:31] with the city of Hyattsville,

[45:33] at least. Although I'm sure you

[45:34] guys heard

[45:36] from the beginning, it sounds

[45:38] like there's some outreach that

[45:41] needs to happen in Avondale.

[45:42] My question is

[45:44] around our conversation

[45:45] around ADUs. Is the word ADU or

[45:46] is the acronym ADU used

[45:47] in this third version?

[45:48] >> Yes, the term ADU is

[45:49] referred to in this version. I

[45:50] believe those were added

[45:51] in the second draft. So the

[45:53] plan does encourage the use

[45:54] of ADUs. However,

[45:55] in the county right now,

[45:56] ADUs are not permitted. So the

[45:57] plan just says if they are

[45:58] permitted in the future,

[45:59] they would be encouraged

[46:00] in this area.

[46:02] >> We were fine with that

[46:03] language when they weren't

[46:05] approved,

[46:06] because they weren't approved.

[46:08] They weren't

[46:09] on the schedule for the county

[46:11] to approve them. But are you

[46:13] guys aware that the state did

[46:15] require all jurisdictions to

[46:16] adopt a policy allowing ADUs

[46:18] this year?

[46:20] >> Yes, Tony felt with Prince

[46:21] George's planning. Yes, we have

[46:23] been monitoring that

[46:24] legislation. And, you know,

[46:26] we do have a schedule

[46:28] to comply with ADUs. The

[46:29] legislature did mandate ADUs

[46:31] to be allowed

[46:32] in all jurisdictions in

[46:34] Maryland. So that is

[46:36] legislation that we're still

[46:37] reviewing,

[46:39] and we'll be working

[46:41] on that sooner or later.

[46:43] But as of right now, Thomas is

[46:45] correct that currently the code

[46:46] in Prince George's county has

[46:48] not been changed

[46:50] to allow allow ADUs,

[46:53] but we have been mandated

[46:55] by the state to allow ADUs

[47:00] within the county based

[47:01] on that legislation. So that's

[47:03] something that we'll be

[47:05] reviewing with the county

[47:06] Council

[47:07] in the coming months.

[47:08] >> Yes, I think that in terms

[47:09] of this sector plan. I'm sorry,

[47:10] was that you, Mayor Croslin?

[47:12] >> Yes, it is. Just one second.

[47:13] I think maybe we need

[47:15] to explain what ADUs are

[47:17] for the community at large and

[47:18] for our new councilmembers.

[47:21] >> Sure.

[47:22] >> Professionals.

[47:24] >> Sure, I can explain that.

[47:25] ADU is an acronym that means

[47:28] accessory dwelling unit. So

[47:29] essentially it is a dwelling

[47:31] unit with a kitchen, bathroom,

[47:33] and a bedroom meets the

[47:35] definition

[47:38] of a dwelling according

[47:41] to the building code. And they

[47:43] are usually smaller,

[47:44] much smaller than the main

[47:48] house, but it is additional

[47:50] separate dwelling unit. They

[47:51] can either be attached or

[47:54] detached, you know, depending

[47:56] on the size of the lot or what

[47:58] the homeowner wants to do. As

[47:59] Thomas mentioned,

[48:01] currently they're not allowed

[48:02] by code in Prince George's

[48:04] county,

[48:05] but they have been mandated

[48:07] by the state to be allowed. So

[48:08] essentially, if you think

[48:09] about. I'll give you an

[48:11] example, kind

[48:12] of a classic example

[48:13] of an adu. If you think

[48:15] about somebody that may have a

[48:17] detached garage outside, you

[48:18] know, a separate building

[48:19] from their house that's

[48:20] detached from their house,

[48:22] that may have a second story

[48:23] with an apartment

[48:24] above the garage,

[48:26] that would be what we're

[48:27] talking about with an ADU or

[48:28] maybe someone has a basement

[48:30] that's fully separated

[48:33] from the rest of their house

[48:35] that they have a living unit

[48:36] in, or, you know, something

[48:38] like a mother in law suite,

[48:40] something like that would be

[48:41] considered an ADU.

[48:42] >> Okay, thank you. I'm sorry,

[48:43] I cut you off, Ms. Sultan. Go

[48:45] ahead.

[48:46] >> No problem. The state law

[48:51] mandates that we have

[48:54] to adopt something by. Or you

[48:58] guys have to adopt something

[49:00] by October of 2026. So you have

[49:02] a little over a year

[49:05] to do so, which would give

[49:07] people, based upon your

[49:10] timeline, roughly a year

[49:15] to start converting things

[49:17] into ADUs

[49:18] without any regulation. So it

[49:20] would be my and given that our

[49:21] residents. I think we made it

[49:23] abundantly clear that the

[49:24] majority of our residents do

[49:26] not want or support ADUs.

[49:27] There are some that do,

[49:28] but given that they. The sum

[49:30] that do will get,

[49:33] that will get them eventually,

[49:34] because the state is requiring

[49:35] getting, you guys will come up

[49:36] with rules and regulations. I

[49:38] think that in this version, we

[49:40] should not be encouraging them.

[49:42] We should just wait until you

[49:45] guys provide additional

[49:48] guidance

[49:50] on what the rules are going

[49:51] to be around ADUs, and then,

[49:53] I don't know,

[49:54] maybe the city will have

[49:55] to come up

[49:56] with its version as well. And

[49:57] then we can talk about. Have a

[49:58] conversation around,

[49:59] a more robust conversation

[50:01] around ADUs, rather than just

[50:02] recommending that they be

[50:03] allowed. Because the heart of

[50:04] the area that will be impacted

[50:06] by this already struggles

[50:07] with parking, with Airbnbs,

[50:08] with, I don't know, a ton

[50:10] of things, a ton of issues that

[50:11] I think allowing ADUs at this

[50:14] point would just not support.

[50:16] So thank you.

[50:19] >> If I could just respond. I

[50:21] just want to say what's in the

[50:23] plan is language that would

[50:25] support ADUs or encourage ADUs

[50:26] once they become allowed. The

[50:28] plan would not allow ADUs,

[50:30] as the does. The current county

[50:32] code does not allow ADUs. They

[50:34] would only be allowed once the

[50:36] county council makes the change

[50:37] to the zoning code. So I just

[50:39] want to make sure that that's

[50:40] clarified.

[50:43] >> Yeah, I guess what I'm

[50:46] trying to say, and I want to

[50:47] make sure I get that what I'm

[50:48] saying is there will be a year

[50:50] between when this. This passes

[50:52] and when the county council has

[50:55] to come up with their update

[50:57] their zoning costs. And I

[51:00] suppose that you guys are

[51:02] gonna. Because there's some

[51:03] technical pieces in there that

[51:04] I think would be outside

[51:05] of zoning that, that the law

[51:08] requires that you guys come up

[51:09] with also,

[51:11] like where they can be, how

[51:13] to count them toward density, a

[51:14] couple other things that are

[51:16] planning specific. And I think

[51:19] that because there are those

[51:21] additional questions that need

[51:23] to be answered,

[51:25] it's not just a recommend that,

[51:27] oh, I think you guys should do,

[51:30] or I think that they should be

[51:31] allowed. There's a lot

[51:33] of heavy lifting

[51:34] around actually allowing them.

[51:36] So I don't understand why we're

[51:38] saying that we recommend that

[51:39] they're going

[51:41] to be allowed when A,

[51:42] they will be allowed and B, we

[51:44] haven't done the heavy lifting

[51:45] which is coming on,

[51:46] on setting them up

[51:47] to be allowed.

[51:49] >> Okay. Mr. Haba? We can't

[51:50] hear you.

[51:54] >> There we go. I thought I had

[51:56] unmuted. Thank you for the

[51:57] presentation. I will start

[51:59] by saying that I do seek

[52:01] in what Council President

[52:03] Solomon was just going

[52:05] over removing that language

[52:07] around ADUs from the SMA as it

[52:09] stand because it's going to be

[52:11] a countywide policy that needs

[52:13] to be implemented. So why put

[52:15] it in this one when we know

[52:16] that there's something coming

[52:18] down the line? So let's just

[52:19] remove it from this. When and

[52:22] if you do come up

[52:23] with that policy,

[52:25] we know that it's going

[52:27] to apply to the county

[52:29] at large. So I wanted

[52:32] to second that suggestion.

[52:35] Also I know I saw on the map

[52:37] that there is no longer going

[52:44] to be dedicated,

[52:46] I think bike lane on

[52:47] Jamestown. We had some concern

[52:49] about that Jamestown and

[52:50] Nicholson, but I didn't see

[52:52] for the Nicholson part. Is that

[52:53] also the same. The same changes

[52:55] applying to Nicholson or

[52:56] Nicholson is saying the same as

[52:58] previously. So Jamestown was a

[53:00] shared.

[53:05] >> Yeah. Let me just check the

[53:13] map real quick.

[53:17] >> I'm sorry Councilmember,

[53:19] your question was about

[53:21] Jamestown?

[53:22] >> Specifically Jamestown,

[53:24] Nicholson. Previously it was a

[53:25] dedicated bike lanes that which

[53:27] was taking kind of like away

[53:31] from parking. But on the new

[53:32] presentation I saw that

[53:35] Jamestown is not shared

[53:37] for bike lanes.

[53:38] >> Yeah. It looks like

[53:39] Nicholson is designated as a

[53:40] shared lane. Is that right?

[53:41] Thomas Nicholson, you are 243

[53:43] on it.

[53:46] >> Depends on what portion of

[53:49] Nicholson you're referring to.

[53:52] There's I guess east of Ager

[53:54] Road it's bike lane. West of

[53:56] Edgar Road it's shared lane.

[53:58] >> Can you show the map?

[54:02] >> We're talking East. So the

[54:07] entire length of Nicholson if

[54:09] it can be shared because there

[54:11] was a fear for 3 canopy. The

[54:12] loss of 3 canopy on Nicholson

[54:14] as well Nicholson and

[54:18] Jamestown on both streets.

[54:22] Previously the plan that was

[54:24] presented would have meant that

[54:26] we'll lose some three canopy.

[54:29] >> So just so we're clear,

[54:31] councilmember,

[54:36] you were suggesting on

[54:38] Nicholson east of Agar Road

[54:39] instead of a bicycle lane,

[54:40] you would prefer

[54:42] to see a shared lane there,

[54:45] dealership lane, because there

[54:47] is a parking constraint

[54:50] in the area. And then we have

[54:52] the three canopy

[54:55] to preserve.

[54:58] >> Okay.

[54:59] >> If we have dedicated lane on

[55:01] those two street which it will

[55:02] mean that we're going

[55:03] to lose parking space. Unless

[55:05] you are able to do it

[55:08] without losing parking space,

[55:10] then we good. We shout out.

[55:12] >> Yeah. So I was just going

[55:13] to confirm that James Conrad

[55:17] was also bicycle.

[55:18] >> I apologize for all the

[55:21] clarifying questions. I'm

[55:27] taking notes. I just want to

[55:28] make sure that I get your

[55:29] comments exactly right,

[55:31] councilmember.

[55:34] >> The other thing I was

[55:38] interested in is the

[55:39] Washington Gas facility. Can

[55:41] you elaborate a little bit more

[55:42] on that? Because that has been.

[55:49] I think our friends from

[55:51] Avondale and Avonreach will be

[55:52] happy to also learn more

[55:54] on that one. What exactly the

[55:55] vision are we foreseeing

[55:59] Washington Gas eventually

[56:00] converting?

[56:06] >> So, Councilmember, we had a

[56:07] request from Washington.

[56:09] Well, first let me start off.

[56:10] Currently the property, the

[56:11] Washington Gas property is

[56:13] zoned agricultural. It is a

[56:14] privately owned public utility.

[56:18] Therefore it's subject to

[56:21] what's called the mandatory

[56:22] referral process,

[56:24] meaning that regardless

[56:25] of the zoning, the Wash Gas

[56:26] facility as a privately owned

[56:29] public utility can continue its

[56:33] operations and they only go

[56:35] through a separate process kind

[56:36] of outside of zoning. We had a

[56:37] request from Washington Gas

[56:39] to rezone the property from ag

[56:40] to an industrial zone. We felt

[56:43] like that was not appropriate

[56:48] one, because if Washington Gas

[56:50] were to divest the property,

[56:52] any type of industrial

[56:53] industrial use could be placed

[56:56] on that property. We know from

[56:58] our outreach that we had heard

[56:59] from residents in Avondale and

[57:02] there in Hyattsville as well

[57:04] that they did not want to see

[57:05] further industrial development

[57:08] of that property. So again,

[57:10] we did not feel

[57:12] like that was appropriate.

[57:21] However, in kind of looking

[57:22] at the future, you know, we

[57:24] recommend, because

[57:25] of its proximity to the West

[57:26] Hyattsville Metro station,

[57:27] we recommended kind

[57:29] of rezoning it to allow transit

[57:30] oriented development similar

[57:32] to what you see

[57:33] on the other side

[57:35] of the river. Now I'll go ahead

[57:37] and tell you that's kind

[57:39] of a visionary type thing that

[57:40] may not happen for a very,

[57:42] very long time. And part

[57:43] of the problem is, you know, we

[57:44] understand there's some

[57:45] environmental concerns and

[57:46] some, you know, a lot of soil

[57:48] remediation and environmental

[57:49] remediation that would have

[57:51] to happen on that property due

[57:52] to its industrial use. So you

[57:54] know, but maybe sometime

[57:56] in the future, you know,

[57:58] these are 5, 10 and 25 year

[57:59] horizon plans. So maybe

[58:01] sometime

[58:03] in the future someone will want

[58:04] to come in and if Washington

[58:06] Gas divests of that property

[58:08] and put some money into it and

[58:09] do the remediation and put a

[58:11] nice development there. And so

[58:13] that's what we're looking for

[58:14] with this plan. But again,

[58:16] the request that we had from

[58:17] the property owners was an

[58:18] industrial zoning district and

[58:19] we just didn't feel like that

[58:21] was appropriate given it its

[58:23] proximity to single family

[58:24] residential.

[58:27] >> Thank you for that

[58:30] clarification. So basically we

[58:32] classifying it as mixed use,

[58:34] but the current use would be

[58:36] grandfather as long as they're

[58:37] there.

[58:40] >> That's correct. As long as

[58:41] Washington Gas is there and

[58:42] they're privately owned public

[58:44] utility, they can continue

[58:45] to operate under the mandatory

[58:46] referral process.

[58:48] >> Thank you. Those are my

[58:51] questions.

[58:53] >> Thank you. Mr. Schaible?

[58:55] >> Thank you. This question

[58:57] came to me

[58:58] from a constituent,

[59:00] but I also am curious to learn

[59:03] the answer. I know there's

[59:06] county legislation that passed

[59:10] within the last one

[59:11] to two years that talked

[59:13] about hurrying up the timeline

[59:18] to convert arterial roads that

[59:21] are adjacent to transit hubs to

[59:23] the new urban street design

[59:26] standard, which is more

[59:30] multimodal and pedestrian

[59:33] friendly. We know that Ager had

[59:36] kind of a complete street

[59:37] revision maybe five years ago.

[59:39] However, we've done a fair

[59:41] amount of analysis on that road

[59:43] that shows that it's still got

[59:45] pretty high speeds

[59:46] of traffic. And just wanted

[59:49] to ask,

[59:52] are there any provisions

[59:54] in this, looking

[59:57] at this anchor, which is

[59:58] Ager, which is the hub that the

[1:00:00] Metro station is right

[1:00:03] off of. Any thoughts to further

[1:00:04] expand walkability and

[1:00:07] multimodal transit options

[1:00:08] adjacent to the Metro station?

[1:00:16] >> Yes, thank you

[1:00:17] for that question.

[1:00:18] Absolutely. Justin, if you

[1:00:20] could go to slide 12, please.

[1:00:22] Ager Road and as well as

[1:00:24] Queens Chapel Road

[1:00:26] in that area are proposed

[1:00:27] to be mixed use boulevards,

[1:00:29] which are part of those new

[1:00:31] street detail standards that we

[1:00:32] have in combination

[1:00:34] with DPW and T. A mixed use

[1:00:38] boulevard incorporates things

[1:00:40] like parking next to it,

[1:00:41] medians, bike lanes,

[1:00:43] integrated bike lanes. So those

[1:00:45] tend to reduce the amount of

[1:00:48] traffic lanes while also

[1:00:49] allowing multimodal and slowing

[1:00:52] down traffic. So that's

[1:00:55] proposed both for Acre Road as

[1:00:56] well as Queens Chapel Road.

[1:00:58] And particularly your question,

[1:00:59] Agar Road there at West

[1:01:01] Hyattsville. And so you'll see

[1:01:02] that right there. Where you see

[1:01:05] that 217 on the map,

[1:01:07] that's Edgar Road right there.

[1:01:09] >> Okay, that sounds good. I

[1:01:11] don't have them handy,

[1:01:13] but I would like

[1:01:15] to forward someone

[1:01:16] from your team. We did a

[1:01:18] traffic audit of. There was an

[1:01:19] intersection along Ager where a

[1:01:20] pedestrian was fatally struck

[1:01:22] by a vehicle about three,

[1:01:23] three years ago. And we did a

[1:01:25] bunch of research there. We had

[1:01:26] some leading people

[1:01:28] in the space of, you know, road

[1:01:30] safety come and provide

[1:01:31] comment. Actually, Juanika

[1:01:34] Fisher was a panelist

[1:01:36] on this,

[1:01:40] on this presentation. It was

[1:01:44] led by an organization called

[1:01:45] Strong Towns. They gave a

[1:01:46] series

[1:01:48] of recommendations. I want to

[1:01:50] make sure you have those and

[1:01:51] can consider those

[1:01:52] in your revisions to the road.

[1:01:53] >> Councilmember,

[1:02:01] I'm fairly certain we have a

[1:02:03] copy of that study. Thomas, do

[1:02:05] we have that and have

[1:02:06] incorporated that

[1:02:07] into the plan, right?

[1:02:11] >> Yeah, I believe so.

[1:02:12] >> Yes.

[1:02:13] But Councilmember, just to

[1:02:14] make sure I believe we have it

[1:02:16] and we've incorporated it

[1:02:20] in the plan. But just

[1:02:21] in case, if you want

[1:02:22] to send it to us. I don't know

[1:02:23] if you have our presentation

[1:02:24] in your packet, but all the

[1:02:26] team members contact

[1:02:27] information with their emails

[1:02:28] are there and so just shoot it

[1:02:30] over to us and we'll

[1:02:32] verify that we have it

[1:02:33] but I'm 99.9% certain that

[1:02:35] we've got it.

[1:02:36] >> Okay, we'll do. Thank you.

[1:02:39] >> Ms. Lee.

[1:02:45] >> Well, hello. Good evening.

[1:02:47] Thank you. Can you guys hear

[1:02:48] me?

[1:02:54] Thank you for your

[1:02:56] presentation. I do have a

[1:02:57] question. Slide 14, where major

[1:02:59] changes housing and

[1:03:00] neighborhoods, where it said

[1:03:02] that new strategies were added

[1:03:04] to the policy HN2 to develop

[1:03:05] long term anti deplacement

[1:03:06] measures. Can you speak on any

[1:03:08] initiatives or what initiatives

[1:03:09] does the planning board have

[1:03:12] in mind for this?

[1:03:16] >> The purpose

[1:03:17] of that strategy is just to

[1:03:18] emphasize that displacement

[1:03:20] doesn't end with displacement

[1:03:22] plan or displacement strategy

[1:03:24] shouldn't end with this plan.

[1:03:27] This plan is just the starting

[1:03:29] point for anti displacement and

[1:03:33] that work on that kind

[1:03:34] of effort should continue

[1:03:37] into the future. So there's

[1:03:38] nothing specific right now.

[1:03:40] It's just emphasizing that

[1:03:41] things should happen,

[1:03:42] should continue to develop as

[1:03:44] the area changes.

[1:03:47] >> Okay. And any other,

[1:03:48] do you have any other

[1:03:50] sector plans that have gone

[1:03:52] through that with any anti

[1:03:53] deplacement programs that you

[1:03:54] could speak on just to kind of

[1:03:56] get a better understanding.

[1:04:04] >> The anti displacement

[1:04:06] policy, it's one of those that

[1:04:08] we think should happen. We

[1:04:10] would have to work of course

[1:04:11] with the county council and

[1:04:13] county executive departments

[1:04:14] in Prince George's county

[1:04:16] for that to be put in place.

[1:04:18] What we're saying here is that

[1:04:21] we want to make sure that as

[1:04:23] new development comes in that

[1:04:24] we don't see existing

[1:04:26] communities displaced or

[1:04:28] existing communities disbanded

[1:04:29] because of new development.

[1:04:31] And so the goal is

[1:04:32] in putting this policy

[1:04:34] into the plan is

[1:04:35] to draw attention

[1:04:37] to the matter and kind

[1:04:38] of bring it up to a level

[1:04:40] for the county council

[1:04:42] to consider. And you know,

[1:04:45] if the county council is

[1:04:48] willing to look at that the

[1:04:49] planning department would stand

[1:04:51] ready to work for, to develop

[1:04:54] any anti displacement measures

[1:04:55] that they see fit. But right

[1:04:58] now there's no requirements

[1:04:59] in the county code. But that's

[1:05:01] something that we think should

[1:05:03] happen.

[1:05:04] >> So this is something that we

[1:05:06] need as a city have to take up

[1:05:07] with our county council members

[1:05:09] to make sure that it is enacted

[1:05:10] into the right.

[1:05:14] >> That's what we would like

[1:05:15] to see. This is one

[1:05:17] of those aspirational policies.

[1:05:18] But, you know,

[1:05:19] and we would love to work

[1:05:20] with the city of Hyattsville

[1:05:21] to bring that

[1:05:23] to the forefront.

[1:05:26] >> Thank you.

[1:05:34] >> Okay, Ms. Waszczak.

[1:05:38] >> Sorry, the mute button did

[1:05:39] not want to unmute itself.

[1:05:41] Okay, so I have three

[1:05:43] questions. First, I wondered

[1:05:44] how this plan has been updated,

[1:05:47] if at all,

[1:05:48] with the advent of. And really

[1:05:52] the explosion

[1:05:54] of motorized scooters,

[1:05:56] especially for food delivery.

[1:05:57] Because I know that there's a

[1:05:58] lot of attention to transit

[1:06:00] oriented development and

[1:06:01] bicycle and pedestrian. So just

[1:06:03] trying to figure out if there

[1:06:05] have been any changes

[1:06:06] to what you're planning based

[1:06:08] on the fact that there are

[1:06:10] scooters zipping everywhere and

[1:06:11] not paying attention

[1:06:15] to traffic laws. Is there any

[1:06:17] way to kind

[1:06:19] of use this planning document

[1:06:23] to help control that?

[1:06:26] >> I would say. Sorry, Tony,

[1:06:29] did you want to go?

[1:06:30] >> So go ahead, Thomas.

[1:06:32] >> Yeah, I was going to say,

[1:06:34] generally the plan does account

[1:06:36] for motorized vehicles

[1:06:37] with bicycle lanes. So if you

[1:06:39] look at the map,

[1:06:40] the transportation map, most

[1:06:41] of the new streets are, you

[1:06:43] know, the urban design streets

[1:06:44] that include some sort of

[1:06:46] shared use path or other path

[1:06:47] that would accommodate scooters

[1:06:48] as well, or bike lanes.

[1:06:53] >> I guess I'm concerned about

[1:06:54] that because these motorized

[1:06:56] scooters, or I don't know what

[1:06:57] you guys call them, like the.

[1:06:59] Going

[1:07:01] to show my age right now,

[1:07:02] like the Vespa type of scooter

[1:07:04] is what I'm talking about. I'm

[1:07:05] talking

[1:07:07] about the ones that are

[1:07:09] like basically a vehicle. They

[1:07:10] are riding in bike lanes,

[1:07:12] they are riding on sidewalks,

[1:07:13] they are riding

[1:07:15] in bike paths. And I think I'm

[1:07:18] just wondering if there is any

[1:07:19] way for us

[1:07:20] to use this sector plan

[1:07:22] to kind of create a vision

[1:07:24] for a safer way

[1:07:25] for these motorized vehicles

[1:07:27] to operate. Because it's

[1:07:29] like the wild west

[1:07:31] out there right now.

[1:07:32] >> Yeah. So usually I think

[1:07:33] what you're kind of talking

[1:07:35] about is something not quite a

[1:07:37] motorcycle, but not quite a

[1:07:39] scooter. I know exactly what

[1:07:40] you're talking about. Usually

[1:07:42] those are considered a motor

[1:07:43] vehicle in the same vein as a

[1:07:45] motorcycle. And the plans

[1:07:46] really typically focus on

[1:07:47] street design and land use. I

[1:07:49] think what you're. It sounds

[1:07:53] like, not the put words

[1:07:55] in your mouth, Councilmember,

[1:07:57] but it sounds

[1:07:59] like you're concerned

[1:08:01] about traffic laws and the

[1:08:02] fact that they're not following

[1:08:04] traffic laws. That's not

[1:08:05] something that we generally get

[1:08:07] into in a sector plan.

[1:08:08] However, you know,

[1:08:10] if your comments back to

[1:08:12] us was that that was something

[1:08:14] that you would like

[1:08:16] to see perhaps as a strategy,

[1:08:17] you know, we could look

[1:08:18] at incorporating some

[1:08:20] of that language.

[1:08:22] But usually that's, you know,

[1:08:24] rest

[1:08:26] with the police department

[1:08:27] to enforce those types

[1:08:28] of traffic laws. But I

[1:08:30] definitely understand where

[1:08:38] you're coming from because I'm

[1:08:40] just gonna. I feel your pain

[1:08:42] on that.

[1:08:44] >> If I can chime

[1:08:46] in here for a moment. Good

[1:08:47] evening, everyone. So I can

[1:08:49] just provide a little bit more

[1:08:50] clarification. We do have a

[1:08:51] comparable document that we are

[1:08:53] doing, Master Plan of

[1:08:54] Transportation update. And so

[1:08:55] to your point, Councilwoman, if

[1:08:57] we're not able

[1:08:58] to capture it as part

[1:08:59] of this master plan, we do have

[1:09:00] a separate document where we're

[1:09:01] updating with multiple

[1:09:02] transportation agencies. So

[1:09:04] Deputy Director felt we could

[1:09:05] probably line this up

[1:09:06] with the GOPrince George's

[1:09:07] process as needed. So that's

[1:09:08] going to come before the

[1:09:09] council next year.

[1:09:11] >> Okay, great, thanks. These

[1:09:12] other two might also be related

[1:09:14] to the PG process. So just

[1:09:16] bear with me. So I wondered if

[1:09:18] you could talk about how the

[1:09:20] transportation map that we saw,

[1:09:21] the one with all the, like,

[1:09:23] dotted lines

[1:09:24] on it that were colored,

[1:09:26] how has that been aligned

[1:09:28] with Metro's new Better Bus

[1:09:29] network map? And are we making

[1:09:31] sure that we kind

[1:09:33] of have aligned those two? As

[1:09:36] you update the sector plan,

[1:09:39] are you also working

[1:09:41] with WMATA on trying to figure

[1:09:43] out how their new bus routes

[1:09:46] are going

[1:09:47] to impact your plan?

[1:09:50] >> Yes. The short answer to

[1:09:51] your question is we have worked

[1:09:52] with WMATA very closely

[1:09:53] to put this plan together.

[1:09:56] Also have worked

[1:09:57] with WMATA as an agency

[1:09:58] with GOPrince George's. So we

[1:10:00] have taken that

[1:10:03] into account as we've looked

[1:10:05] at some of these street

[1:10:08] classification changes.

[1:10:09] >> Okay, great. And then my

[1:10:11] last question was,

[1:10:13] does the plan provide for

[1:10:14] bicycle oriented development

[1:10:15] and not just transit oriented

[1:10:17] development? And the reason I

[1:10:19] ask that is because we're

[1:10:20] obviously on one of the premier

[1:10:22] bike trail systems

[1:10:23] in the country. I mean, I feel

[1:10:26] like we are. And so I want to

[1:10:29] make sure that we are thinking

[1:10:30] not just about cars and about

[1:10:32] transit oriented development,

[1:10:36] but also about bike oriented

[1:10:38] development. As I understand

[1:10:40] there was a development

[1:10:41] possibly coming in right next

[1:10:43] to West Hyattville Station that

[1:10:45] envisioned itself

[1:10:47] to be bike oriented and not to

[1:10:50] really have parking spaces. I

[1:10:52] think that's kind

[1:10:54] of the future. And if we're

[1:10:55] looking

[1:10:57] at a visionary plan here,

[1:10:59] I just want to make sure that

[1:11:00] we have that vision

[1:11:02] in mind as well.

[1:11:03] >> Yes, absolutely. And you

[1:11:05] know, the nice thing about

[1:11:06] transit oriented development,

[1:11:07] it is also bike oriented

[1:11:08] development because we're

[1:11:09] looking

[1:11:10] at those multimodal forms

[1:11:12] of transportation not just

[1:11:13] in this plan, but also in

[1:11:14] GoPrince Georgia's,

[1:11:15] but if you take a look

[1:11:16] at slide 13, we've envisioned a

[1:11:17] wide array of bicycle lanes,

[1:11:18] both shared and dedicated

[1:11:19] throughout the plan. Not only

[1:11:20] that,

[1:11:22] in our trail networks

[1:11:23] associated with the plan, we've

[1:11:24] envisioned multi use paths that

[1:11:25] incorporate bikes. So we're

[1:11:26] definitely taking a vision of

[1:11:28] much more multimodal transit,

[1:11:30] including bicycles

[1:11:32] in the plan area.

[1:11:36] >> Great. Thank you very much.

[1:11:37] >> Okay. Mr. Solomon, did you

[1:11:41] have another question you want

[1:11:42] to ask?

[1:11:44] >> Yes, just two more things

[1:11:46] that I want to raise. The first

[1:11:48] was just revisiting the

[1:11:49] conversation around ADUs,

[1:11:51] but I wanted to mix it with the

[1:11:54] density changes that were the

[1:11:55] zoning change that's also

[1:11:57] included here.

[1:12:00] The zoning change came

[1:12:03] about because when we,

[1:12:04] when we came up

[1:12:06] with draft one, there was no

[1:12:08] zoning change initially

[1:12:09] indicated,

[1:12:13] but there was a conversation

[1:12:16] around ADUs. I think that

[1:12:19] in general,

[1:12:22] planning board plus the

[1:12:24] majority of residents agrees

[1:12:26] that ADUs were not the way

[1:12:28] to go. So we came up with the

[1:12:29] zoning change that would

[1:12:31] achieve the same objectives

[1:12:32] around allowing additional

[1:12:35] housing should people choose to

[1:12:37] convert their homes or lots or

[1:12:39] you know,

[1:12:40] build additional units.

[1:12:44] But it wouldn't come with

[1:12:46] some of the negatives

[1:12:48] that we associated with ADUs.

[1:12:50] But now, since we're going

[1:12:52] to get ADUs anyway, I'm

[1:12:54] wondering, have we seen a place

[1:12:56] where you do the zoning change

[1:12:57] and you allow ADUs

[1:12:59] at the same time? Are

[1:13:01] there examples that you guys

[1:13:03] can pull from around what that

[1:13:04] looks like?

[1:13:06] >> Sure. So ADUs are allowed

[1:13:08] in multiple jurisdictions

[1:13:09] across the country. And I can

[1:13:10] kind of pull on my experience

[1:13:12] at my previous life in San

[1:13:14] Antonio, Texas, where,

[1:13:15] and I'm sure Director Hall can

[1:13:19] pull

[1:13:20] from her previous experiences

[1:13:22] in Miami and Charlotte and

[1:13:23] Los Angeles. But you know,

[1:13:25] what we've been able to see is

[1:13:26] that ADUs can provide

[1:13:28] additional housing options and

[1:13:29] allow people both to age

[1:13:31] in place,

[1:13:33] can allow some independence

[1:13:35] for students that may be aging

[1:13:36] out of their parents home

[1:13:38] but still want to stay close

[1:13:42] to the nest, or may allow

[1:13:44] homeowners

[1:13:46] to supplement their income

[1:13:49] by renting out a unit.

[1:13:52] And that unit can provide some

[1:13:54] affordable housing

[1:13:56] for someone who is trying

[1:13:58] to get on their feet. You know,

[1:13:59] around the country,

[1:14:00] ADUs have been really

[1:14:02] successful in allowing these

[1:14:03] additional housing options

[1:14:05] to occur. And you don't really

[1:14:08] see those types

[1:14:09] of negative effects. Usually

[1:14:10] ADUs work best where you have a

[1:14:12] really robust infrastructure,

[1:14:14] multimodal and transit

[1:14:16] oriented, and you have good

[1:14:17] transit,

[1:14:19] which is what you're seeing

[1:14:20] in these neighborhoods. So, you

[1:14:21] know,

[1:14:22] it's been our experience that

[1:14:24] around the country that these,

[1:14:27] the ADUs have worked along

[1:14:29] with additional densities.

[1:14:30] Director Hall, I didn't know if

[1:14:31] you had anything that you

[1:14:32] wanted to add.

[1:14:35] >> Yes, just really quickly.

[1:14:36] So in addition to go Prince

[1:14:37] George's, we're going to start

[1:14:38] a missing middle housing study.

[1:14:39] And so as part

[1:14:41] of that effort, we're going

[1:14:42] to include the City of

[1:14:43] Hyattsville. And we're hoping

[1:14:45] that

[1:14:46] before that effective date

[1:14:47] of the state requirements

[1:14:49] on ADUs,

[1:14:50] we can have some engagement

[1:14:51] of what that looks like. So

[1:14:53] keep in mind the master and

[1:14:54] sector plan will be adopted

[1:14:56] for the city. However, there

[1:14:57] are still code regulations that

[1:14:59] can be adopted that may also

[1:15:00] overlap the master and sector

[1:15:01] plan process. So we want to

[1:15:02] make sure that the council is

[1:15:03] aware that with this master and

[1:15:05] sector plan, there might be

[1:15:06] additional amendments made

[1:15:07] through the regulation process.

[1:15:09] But we are definitely going to

[1:15:10] be transparent and come back as

[1:15:13] part of the missing middle

[1:15:15] housing study to talk

[1:15:17] about this further.

[1:15:19] >> Okay. For me, I think that I

[1:15:20] appreciate hearing that. I

[1:15:22] don't know if you were

[1:15:24] on earlier to hear my comment

[1:15:26] that I don't think that we

[1:15:27] should include ADUs, but this

[1:15:29] reinforces my comment that I

[1:15:30] think we should keep ADUs out

[1:15:31] of this and just leave it

[1:15:33] in that additional piece

[1:15:37] that you're talking

[1:15:38] about when we get

[1:15:40] to that point, because, you

[1:15:43] know, ADUs aren't going

[1:15:44] to account toward density,

[1:15:46] but we're going

[1:15:48] to grow density, but

[1:15:49] with the zoning change. And I'm

[1:15:51] wondering in our

[1:15:54] goodwill to try and

[1:15:56] create additional affordable

[1:15:57] options if we're also going

[1:15:59] to create a greater burden

[1:16:00] on the resources of the city

[1:16:01] by rushing toward that goal

[1:16:04] rather than slowly getting

[1:16:05] there

[1:16:07] through a planned process,

[1:16:11] which you guys are,

[1:16:12] which is the whole focus

[1:16:14] of this exercise,

[1:16:15] by doing both

[1:16:16] at the same time quickly. So

[1:16:17] that's my thoughts there. The

[1:16:19] only other thing I was going

[1:16:20] to say about transportation,

[1:16:21] I don't know if we included it,

[1:16:23] but I know one

[1:16:25] of my concerns, I live

[1:16:26] near the Metro station where we

[1:16:29] do have the,

[1:16:31] the scooters and the E-bikes

[1:16:32] and every other

[1:16:34] thing that you can think

[1:16:36] of that you will want people

[1:16:38] to just get on when they get

[1:16:39] off a Metro and not get

[1:16:43] in the car. But in every other

[1:16:45] place that I've visited, there

[1:16:50] are speed regulations that

[1:16:51] those things have to follow and

[1:16:53] also locations where they can

[1:16:54] and can't be used. But it, I

[1:16:56] don't, it doesn't seem

[1:16:58] like those exist in Prince

[1:16:59] George's County. And I think

[1:17:00] one of the recommendations that

[1:17:02] we should make to the

[1:17:05] District Council is that they

[1:17:07] should put those things in

[1:17:09] place because otherwise they're

[1:17:10] ending up in

[1:17:11] neighborhoods. They're

[1:17:12] ending up

[1:17:14] in this pond that we've created

[1:17:16] over here. They're ending up

[1:17:17] in all types of places that

[1:17:19] they shouldn't be because we

[1:17:20] allow people to bring them

[1:17:22] there and just throw them

[1:17:23] anywhere. So I think if we

[1:17:24] could make one

[1:17:26] of the recommendations back to

[1:17:27] the district council could be

[1:17:28] working

[1:17:30] with whoever their partners are

[1:17:31] in establishing these

[1:17:32] multimodal transportation

[1:17:33] system

[1:17:34] around both metro stations,

[1:17:35] both West High School,

[1:17:36] but also there needs to be. I

[1:17:38] would assume that they're

[1:17:40] having the same problem

[1:17:42] around French George's Plaza

[1:17:44] Metro station, is that some

[1:17:45] of them aren't making it back

[1:17:46] to where they came from. Thank

[1:17:47] you.

[1:17:51] >> Okay, thank you. We have

[1:17:52] another presentation coming up.

[1:17:53] So, colleagues, is that all the

[1:17:54] comments or questions that we

[1:17:55] have? Okay, thank you. Thank

[1:17:56] you, folks for coming and

[1:17:57] making this presentation

[1:17:58] to us.

[1:17:59] >> Thank you for having us.

[1:18:01] >> Okay, so we're going to go

[1:18:02] on to the next presentation,

[1:18:04] Ms. Riddle.

[1:18:06] >> Thank you, Mayor Croslin.

[1:18:08] >> Hal Metzler is also

[1:18:11] with me this evening.

[1:18:15] Deputy Director Metzler. We

[1:18:17] are here with representatives

[1:18:19] from Tanko. Council approved us

[1:18:20] moving forward with a contract

[1:18:22] with Tanko to maneuver us

[1:18:26] through the changes with PEPCO

[1:18:31] and our lighting system. I'm

[1:18:33] going to turn it over to Tanko

[1:18:36] and to Hal. And we are

[1:18:38] after the presentation here

[1:18:40] to answer your questions.

[1:18:48] >> Good evening, Mayor,

[1:18:49] Council. Just to add on

[1:18:51] to what Leslie said,

[1:18:52] the city is responding to the

[1:18:53] Maryland General assembly

[1:18:56] passing a. Excuse me. The

[1:18:59] Municipal Streetlight

[1:19:01] Investment act in fiscal year

[1:19:05] 23 that allows local

[1:19:06] governments

[1:19:08] to acquire streetlights from

[1:19:10] their local utility. PEPCO had

[1:19:11] a number of meetings

[1:19:13] with all the municipalities

[1:19:14] in Prince George's County. The

[1:19:16] city, after attending a few

[1:19:21] of those, brought Tanko

[1:19:22] on board to kind

[1:19:23] of review this and advise us.

[1:19:25] They gave a presentation to

[1:19:26] council last year where they

[1:19:27] had one recommendation.

[1:19:29] Since then, PEPCO has changed

[1:19:31] their proposed rates and that

[1:19:34] has caused us to have Tanko

[1:19:36] kind of re. Evaluate the

[1:19:38] options for the city. Jason

[1:19:40] Tanko is here

[1:19:41] to present those options

[1:19:44] to you all. Thank you, Jason.

[1:19:47] >> I'm

[1:19:53] loading up the presentation. I

[1:19:55] just want to confirm. Can

[1:19:57] everyone see this?

[1:19:58] >> Yes.

[1:20:00] >> We're here to talk

[1:20:03] about streetlights. My name is

[1:20:04] Jason Tanko. I'm an absolute

[1:20:06] advocate and lover

[1:20:07] of streetlights. Definitely a

[1:20:10] unique person

[1:20:11] from this standpoint. I get

[1:20:13] to work and play

[1:20:14] with something I care

[1:20:15] about very deeply. So we're

[1:20:17] talking

[1:20:18] about the lights right here.

[1:20:19] This is actually a shot of

[1:20:20] Hyattsville. I think you can

[1:20:22] all see my cursor. Is that

[1:20:24] right?

[1:20:25] >> Yes.

[1:20:26] >> Okay, so just a little bit

[1:20:27] about us because the remaining

[1:20:28] slides really focus

[1:20:29] on the city. So our company,

[1:20:30] we've helped 130 cities and

[1:20:32] towns around the country

[1:20:35] acquire their street Lights.

[1:20:37] In some cases, we've

[1:20:40] recommended that they not

[1:20:42] acquire the lights. So we're

[1:20:43] not coming in,

[1:20:44] just beating a single drum.

[1:20:46] Some points

[1:20:47] around why you would want

[1:20:49] to own number one. Street

[1:20:51] lights are here

[1:20:52] for public safety. They prevent

[1:20:54] accidents. They allow slip and

[1:20:55] fall hazards to be mitigated.

[1:20:56] They really reduce crime.

[1:20:57] There's a lot of social

[1:20:59] benefits that streetlights

[1:21:00] have, so owning the street

[1:21:01] lights, there's a lot

[1:21:02] of benefits to that in terms of

[1:21:03] the city's public safety goals.

[1:21:05] Another benefit that we'll get

[1:21:06] into here is cost savings.

[1:21:08] There is going to be faster

[1:21:09] response times because the city

[1:21:11] will now be more directly

[1:21:12] responsible

[1:21:13] for the maintenance, better

[1:21:15] maintenance,

[1:21:16] control and design

[1:21:17] of the lighting. And in this,

[1:21:18] right away, here, this picture,

[1:21:19] the city already takes care

[1:21:20] of everything else. The street,

[1:21:22] the stormwater. You clean it,

[1:21:23] you plow it. Everything else in

[1:21:24] this street is already

[1:21:26] currently done by the city,

[1:21:27] just lighting it. Currently

[1:21:28] still covered under PEPCO.

[1:21:30] But again, we're recommending

[1:21:32] that be potentially changed.

[1:21:34] The last point I'll leave you

[1:21:35] with is people already think

[1:21:37] you own the street lights.

[1:21:38] People are calling the city

[1:21:40] today with lights that are

[1:21:42] out issues. And the problem is

[1:21:44] you have to go to PEPCO, where

[1:21:46] there's just no accountability

[1:21:48] to make sure that they get

[1:21:49] repaired on time. All right,

[1:21:50] can everyone see the next

[1:21:51] slide?

[1:21:52] >> Yes, we can.

[1:21:53] >> Okay, great. So this kind

[1:21:54] of catches us up. We did a

[1:21:55] streetlight feasibility study

[1:21:56] that was completed on October

[1:21:58] 2023. We reported

[1:21:59] to council and to staff on

[1:22:00] February 2024. The results

[1:22:02] of those. We essentially looked

[1:22:04] at four options,

[1:22:05] and basically it was either

[1:22:06] stay with PEPCO or go out

[1:22:08] on your own. And those were put

[1:22:11] against basically just status

[1:22:17] quo. We had to have some sort

[1:22:18] of baseline. So since then,

[1:22:20] we've also now completed the

[1:22:21] lighting audit and the GIS

[1:22:24] overlay. So we had staff from

[1:22:27] Tanko going pole

[1:22:31] by pole throughout the city,

[1:22:35] counting all

[1:22:37] of the street lights,

[1:22:38] getting critical data about,

[1:22:40] you know, what the street

[1:22:42] light, where it was located,

[1:22:45] any, any information

[1:22:47] off the pole, things

[1:22:48] like that. We reconcile that

[1:22:49] against the bills that

[1:22:51] currently came in from PEPCO.

[1:22:52] We believe that there's a

[1:22:54] potential credit in

[1:22:56] overbuilding because basically

[1:22:57] the records were just not

[1:22:58] matching what we found

[1:23:00] in the field. Another note is

[1:23:02] that since April 1st

[1:23:03] of this year,

[1:23:05] the bill has actually increased

[1:23:06] by another 10%. And it's our

[1:23:07] position

[1:23:08] with the city staff as well,

[1:23:10] that pepco's rates are really

[1:23:11] reflective of a policy that

[1:23:12] they just don't want to be

[1:23:14] in street lighting anymore.

[1:23:15] Their rates are quite

[1:23:16] ridiculous. Even

[1:23:18] to convert the Lights, their

[1:23:19] maintenance is very poor.

[1:23:21] You're really in the worst case

[1:23:24] scenario right now with

[1:23:26] PEPCO. You're paying the

[1:23:28] highest cost and getting the

[1:23:30] least level of service. We

[1:23:31] actually want

[1:23:32] to reverse that completely.

[1:23:34] Pay less and get a lot more.

[1:23:36] That's essentially what we're

[1:23:38] proposing. So we reduced it

[1:23:39] down to three options. Option

[1:23:40] three is really again,

[1:23:41] just do nothing. So this is

[1:23:42] your baseline. You're currently

[1:23:44] spending $268,000 a year

[1:23:45] in street lights. Over 20 years

[1:23:48] that will be just under $6

[1:23:50] million at 5.904. What we

[1:23:52] looked at is if you stayed

[1:23:54] with PEPCO and converted to LED

[1:23:55] or if you bought the lights

[1:23:57] from PEPCO and you converted

[1:23:59] to led. So you can see the,

[1:24:01] the costs are slightly better.

[1:24:04] By buying out from PEPCO and

[1:24:06] having us oversee an LED

[1:24:07] conversion, your operating

[1:24:09] costs are actually quite

[1:24:10] similar over the 20 year

[1:24:11] period. But it's the project

[1:24:13] cost where things really get

[1:24:14] separated. It is more than

[1:24:15] double to convert to LED

[1:24:17] with PEPCO. And there is no

[1:24:18] timeline upon which they will

[1:24:20] be able

[1:24:21] to do this conversion. As Hal

[1:24:23] can attest to,

[1:24:25] it has taken them years to even

[1:24:27] do the few hundred lights that

[1:24:28] have been done. So

[1:24:30] by spending just

[1:24:32] under this million dollars,

[1:24:33] you get a great return

[1:24:34] on investment. This is one of

[1:24:35] the best we see and this entire

[1:24:37] project would be done in

[1:24:38] about a year. So our

[1:24:40] recommendation currently this

[1:24:41] is the way staff feels as well

[1:24:43] as we believe it's

[1:24:44] in your best interest

[1:24:45] to purchase the lights

[1:24:47] from pepco. This would put you

[1:24:49] in alignment

[1:24:50] with multiple agencies around

[1:24:52] the country and just know D.C.

[1:24:53] baltimore, they own and

[1:24:55] maintain all their street

[1:24:58] lights as well. You have much

[1:24:59] lower costs. A great return

[1:25:01] on investment. The LED

[1:25:04] conversion is really paramount

[1:25:06] because it does play public

[1:25:07] safety. Everyone knows LED

[1:25:09] lighting at night is easier

[1:25:11] to see. You have better depth

[1:25:12] vision. It's going

[1:25:13] to be easier

[1:25:14] to avoid pedestrians, icicles

[1:25:15] and other collisions just

[1:25:17] because the lighting is much

[1:25:18] easier to use at nighttime. By

[1:25:19] owning and maintaining lights,

[1:25:21] you have better control of the

[1:25:24] lighting design and maintenance

[1:25:25] response times. I see outages

[1:25:26] repaired within five days,

[1:25:27] typically dark sky compliant

[1:25:29] fixtures. We're not going

[1:25:30] to throw a bunch of light up

[1:25:31] into the skies. We're going

[1:25:33] to put the right amount

[1:25:34] of light and have it focused

[1:25:35] at the ground. And of course

[1:25:37] this will reduce or increase

[1:25:38] and improve the nighttime

[1:25:40] public safety because of cars

[1:25:41] and pedestrians and people

[1:25:43] interacting at night. So this

[1:25:44] is just like a snapshot here,

[1:25:47] just an example

[1:25:48] of how this is happening

[1:25:50] within the rates. These rates

[1:25:53] are published, you could look

[1:25:56] them up yourself. These are

[1:25:57] both public Rates from PEPCO.

[1:25:58] So currently you are spending

[1:26:00] $9.31 for a 70 watt high

[1:26:01] pressure sodium fixture. This

[1:26:03] would be maybe

[1:26:05] in a residential neighborhood.

[1:26:06] Typically, this is about 43%

[1:26:07] of your system. What we're

[1:26:09] recommending is you buy

[1:26:10] out the lights. The new monthly

[1:26:11] cost, and this is everything

[1:26:12] all cost in. This includes the

[1:26:14] energy bill from PEPCO and the

[1:26:15] maintenance. So energy and

[1:26:18] maintenance, it would only be

[1:26:20] $2.82. Essentially wrapping

[1:26:21] this up into the 1200 lights,

[1:26:23] roughly that the city will be

[1:26:24] buying. That's how this

[1:26:25] translates into what will be a

[1:26:26] couple hundred thousand dollars

[1:26:28] savings. Which kind

[1:26:29] of leads me to my next slide.

[1:26:31] So excuse me. So you can see

[1:26:33] right here the $268,000. This

[1:26:34] is your current bill. This is

[1:26:36] your existing cost. What we're

[1:26:37] recommending is by buying

[1:26:39] out the lights,

[1:26:40] your bill will now drop down

[1:26:42] to 41,000. And then even when

[1:26:44] we added maintenance,

[1:26:46] which we estimate at $27,000,

[1:26:49] you're going

[1:26:50] to only be spending roughly

[1:26:51] 68,000. So that yields about

[1:26:53] $200,000 savings. And then you

[1:26:55] can see up here,

[1:26:56] under a million dollars

[1:26:57] of investment gives you a

[1:26:59] return of $4 million back.

[1:27:00] That is incredible. That is

[1:27:02] just really good return

[1:27:03] on your investment. And you get

[1:27:05] higher quality lighting and

[1:27:06] service of the system. Excuse

[1:27:12] me, Sorry, I think I jumped

[1:27:13] one. Okay, so the current

[1:27:14] timeline and I'll get

[1:27:16] into a couple details here. So

[1:27:17] again,

[1:27:18] the audit's been completed.

[1:27:19] We're recommending that buying

[1:27:20] out of the system take place as

[1:27:22] the next step. There's roughly

[1:27:24] 1203 fixtures. Once the city,

[1:27:25] the city of Hyattsville will

[1:27:27] own the lights, will then plan

[1:27:28] to do an upgrade to led. That

[1:27:30] upgrade, the installation and

[1:27:32] the lighting itself, the

[1:27:33] fixtures will all be bid out.

[1:27:35] We're just going

[1:27:38] to project management. So those

[1:27:39] are rather large expenses that

[1:27:41] will be publicly bid. And then

[1:27:42] the city maintenance. The

[1:27:45] current plan is that Tanko

[1:27:46] might do the administrative

[1:27:48] side of the maintenance. And we

[1:27:49] will also bid out for a

[1:27:51] contractor who will be

[1:27:53] responsible

[1:27:55] for doing the infield work.

[1:28:01] That's currently just the plan.

[1:28:02] Again, this whole estimated

[1:28:05] timeline is about a year. So

[1:28:08] breakdown of the project costs.

[1:28:14] A good chunk

[1:28:15] of it is just buying

[1:28:17] out the lights. Let's just get

[1:28:18] rid of pepco. We estimate

[1:28:20] currently,

[1:28:21] based upon the numbers they

[1:28:22] publish, roughly a $200,000

[1:28:23] investment. Some

[1:28:24] of these fees, this is

[1:28:26] currently what our contract is.

[1:28:27] This 182,000. That's already

[1:28:28] what we're currently operating

[1:28:30] under. And then you can see the

[1:28:31] conversion will be under

[1:28:32] $600,000 again. Most of this

[1:28:33] would represent just material

[1:28:35] and the installation

[1:28:36] from a contractor. So that is

[1:28:37] it. I can bounce back

[1:28:39] to slides. I'll let you

[1:28:40] guys kind of fire away

[1:28:42] with questions

[1:28:43] from there.

[1:28:44] >> Okay. Can you stop sharing

[1:28:46] screen for a while?

[1:28:47] >> Yes, sir.

[1:28:48] >> Thank you. Colleagues,

[1:28:49] questions? Mr. Haba?

[1:28:51] >> Yes, thank you. Operating

[1:28:56] costs. I think that's where I

[1:28:57] have my question. We saw that

[1:28:59] operating cost between PEPCO

[1:29:01] and the city will comes out

[1:29:03] to be roughly the same.

[1:29:04] But what is included

[1:29:07] in that operating cost

[1:29:10] at the city level? What's the

[1:29:12] breakdown

[1:29:13] for that operating cost?

[1:29:17] >> So the current operating

[1:29:19] cost would be $68,000 compared

[1:29:20] to the. I think it was 82,000.

[1:29:23] That would cover the bill

[1:29:28] of just electricity only to

[1:29:29] Petco and then the maintenance

[1:29:30] costs for any given year.

[1:29:32] >> Okay, but we don't have any

[1:29:34] estimate or any idea of what

[1:29:35] that maintenance cost will be.

[1:29:38] >> The maintenance cost was

[1:29:39] in slide 7. It was

[1:29:44] $26,938. I believe it comes

[1:29:45] out to $2 per pole per month.

[1:29:48] >> That's your estimate?

[1:29:51] Because I heard you saying he's

[1:29:53] gonna have

[1:29:54] to be bidded out.

[1:29:58] >> Yeah. We will be bidding

[1:29:59] out the field work for the

[1:30:00] contractor and then we would be

[1:30:03] the one

[1:30:04] to deploy that contractor.

[1:30:05] Make sure that, you know,

[1:30:07] they're not just fixing one

[1:30:08] life,

[1:30:09] they can fix several things.

[1:30:10] So we get more bang

[1:30:11] for the buck. That is an

[1:30:12] estimate. I currently maintain

[1:30:14] about 20 street light systems

[1:30:15] around the country. So

[1:30:16] fortunate for you,

[1:30:17] I'm not making that number up.

[1:30:18] That's actually high. Most

[1:30:19] of my clients experience costs

[1:30:22] like around $1.60

[1:30:25] to A$70 per pole per month

[1:30:26] for the year. So I'm estimating

[1:30:27] under $27,000. I believe that

[1:30:28] will be high.

[1:30:29] >> You good, Mr. Haba?

[1:30:34] >> Yes, I'm good for now.

[1:30:36] >> Okay, thank you. Mr.

[1:30:38] Schaible?

[1:30:40] >> Thank you, Mayor. I think

[1:30:41] to me, I love these. I like

[1:30:43] statistics and math and

[1:30:45] environmentally friendly

[1:30:47] interventions and all that. So

[1:30:48] this kind of hits a sweet spot

[1:30:50] for me. A few questions

[1:30:52] about it. You said 1200 lights

[1:30:58] and did those include. Let's

[1:31:02] say, you know, there's a lot of

[1:31:04] state or county owned roads

[1:31:05] that bisect our community. Are

[1:31:07] we including purchase of light

[1:31:09] off of roads that we don't own

[1:31:11] or would those be exempted

[1:31:13] for some reason?

[1:31:17] >> I'm going to let Hal speak

[1:31:20] to the state highway.

[1:31:22] Currently, what's not included

[1:31:23] in this analysis was 121 lights

[1:31:24] already owned and maintenance

[1:31:26] maintained by the city. So they

[1:31:28] weren't considered because it

[1:31:30] was already

[1:31:31] in your possession. So how can

[1:31:34] give some more direction

[1:31:35] around lights that the state is

[1:31:37] putting in and turning over

[1:31:39] to the city. And again,

[1:31:41] I think there's. There's just

[1:31:43] more details how it's got. So

[1:31:45] go ahead.

[1:31:47] >> Yes. So to help answer that,

[1:31:48] the city does have several MOUs

[1:31:50] with the state Highway

[1:31:51] Administration, and that

[1:31:53] primarily covers the pedestrian

[1:31:55] lights on Queen's Chapel

[1:31:56] Road, a few on East west

[1:32:00] highway, and the Trolley Trail

[1:32:03] extension that was just

[1:32:05] completed. So those are lights

[1:32:08] that the city will maintain

[1:32:11] once State highway finishes

[1:32:12] their project, closes

[1:32:14] out their project and turns

[1:32:16] them over to the city. But

[1:32:19] they're not lights that we

[1:32:20] would be purchasing from PEPCO

[1:32:23] because they're already owned

[1:32:25] by State highway and the

[1:32:27] city. So the city helped

[1:32:28] to fund those. That

[1:32:30] construction. It was kind

[1:32:31] of a joint agreement with

[1:32:34] State Highway. So we already

[1:32:36] own those lights. We will take

[1:32:38] over maintenance once the,

[1:32:39] Once those projects are

[1:32:41] completed. Now, as far as the

[1:32:43] overhead lights on the state

[1:32:45] roads and the county roads, the

[1:32:46] city would not be taking those

[1:32:48] over. The county and the

[1:32:49] state are responsible

[1:32:51] for those, though I believe the

[1:32:52] state highway might be trying

[1:32:54] to get some

[1:32:55] of the municipalities to take

[1:32:57] on some of those, but we don't

[1:32:58] currently have any agreement

[1:32:59] to do so, and.

[1:33:02] >> We don't pay for that

[1:33:03] electricity right now either.

[1:33:04] >> We should not be.

[1:33:06] >> No.

[1:33:09] >> Though the audit is still.

[1:33:10] We're still trying to hammer

[1:33:12] out the audit that

[1:33:13] Tanko completed with

[1:33:16] PEPCO to make sure we were

[1:33:18] being charged for all the

[1:33:19] correct lights and charged the

[1:33:21] correct dollar amount. So

[1:33:22] we should not be paying

[1:33:24] for them. If we have been

[1:33:26] paying for them, we will be

[1:33:28] requesting a credit back

[1:33:29] from pepco,

[1:33:30] but that's still kind

[1:33:32] of being worked out.

[1:33:35] >> Okay. And it sounds

[1:33:37] like our concept, and I think

[1:33:39] this is probably the way

[1:33:42] to go. Although I wonder,

[1:33:43] you probably have experience

[1:33:45] with this, Mr. Tanko, have you

[1:33:48] worked with jurisdictions that

[1:33:49] have decided to assume this

[1:33:51] responsibility themselves for

[1:33:52] maintenance? I'm not

[1:33:54] necessarily saying I prefer it,

[1:33:56] but I do hear about the issue

[1:33:58] from time to time, and I just

[1:33:59] wonder, is there any

[1:34:01] maintenance that city staff

[1:34:02] does,

[1:34:04] like replace bulbs or anything

[1:34:06] like that? Or would this be a

[1:34:07] system that would be entirely

[1:34:09] dependent on a contractor

[1:34:11] to do maintenance?

[1:34:18] >> Oh, sorry.

[1:34:22] >> No, please go ahead.

[1:34:24] >> I would say that when you

[1:34:26] convert the lights to LED,

[1:34:27] it is a rather robust system.

[1:34:29] We expect that the outage rate

[1:34:31] will be less than 1% related to

[1:34:32] the fixture themselves. I think

[1:34:34] the majority of the outages

[1:34:35] will probably be lined up

[1:34:36] with PEPCO because

[1:34:38] of the amount of lights that

[1:34:39] you're buying and how little

[1:34:40] maintenance will be done going

[1:34:41] forward. It doesn't make sense

[1:34:42] for the city to, let's say,

[1:34:44] buy trucks, hire a crew. It

[1:34:46] could be potentially assumed

[1:34:47] under something else.

[1:34:49] But the other problem with that

[1:34:50] is there's so much change just

[1:34:51] bringing the street light

[1:34:53] under the purview

[1:34:54] of public works. It could be

[1:34:56] good, even if it's just

[1:34:57] temporary, that we're

[1:34:58] at least there to walk you

[1:35:00] through the maintenance

[1:35:01] process. And then maybe

[1:35:02] at some point in the future,

[1:35:04] the city could take it over.

[1:35:05] It could just be a lot to do,

[1:35:06] but it has been done. We could

[1:35:08] consult with you guys

[1:35:09] to set you up

[1:35:11] to make sure that that's ready,

[1:35:13] but it just could be a lot

[1:35:15] to take on. Some

[1:35:18] of our clients,

[1:35:19] the reason why we actually got

[1:35:21] into maintenance is they really

[1:35:22] wanted to hold our feet

[1:35:24] to the fire,

[1:35:25] to all the promises in terms

[1:35:27] of the energy conservation,

[1:35:29] the cost savings,

[1:35:30] as well as they wanted

[1:35:32] to see us at least carry them

[1:35:33] through maintenance

[1:35:34] until they felt like, you know

[1:35:36] what, I'm ready

[1:35:38] to pick this up,

[1:35:39] or what options do I have? So

[1:35:40] we're not a required aspect.

[1:35:42] You don't have to sign up

[1:35:44] with us.

[1:35:46] But it could be good just to at

[1:35:48] least transition because the

[1:35:50] public perception is really the

[1:35:51] priority here. People already

[1:35:52] think you own the lights or

[1:35:54] already seeing the poor

[1:35:55] maintenance. By having at least

[1:35:56] somebody who's adept and ready

[1:35:57] to take over the system

[1:35:58] with a lot of experience,

[1:36:00] they're going

[1:36:01] to see quicker results. Light

[1:36:02] was reported on a Monday, it's

[1:36:03] fixed by Friday. Those are good

[1:36:04] things that we want to see

[1:36:05] in terms

[1:36:06] of public perception, that

[1:36:07] City hall did something right.

[1:36:08] So by all means,

[1:36:09] you could certainly do that

[1:36:10] on your own. But we're trying

[1:36:11] to at least help push that

[1:36:12] through. And it's definitely a

[1:36:13] minimal cost because you just

[1:36:14] don't have that many lights.

[1:36:15] >> So I'll say, I mean,

[1:36:16] generically, we're not the

[1:36:17] subject matter experts

[1:36:18] at this juncture. And that

[1:36:20] cost, you know, as Jason said,

[1:36:21] maybe down the line, but

[1:36:22] at this point we're relying

[1:36:23] on Tanko's expertise and

[1:36:24] appreciate their assistance

[1:36:27] till now and will continue to

[1:36:28] if council sees that fit.

[1:36:30] >> And I would like

[1:36:32] to add one other option to,

[1:36:33] or one other fact to this,

[1:36:35] is that the majority of the

[1:36:37] overhead streetlights are

[1:36:38] directly tied

[1:36:40] into the power grid. There's no

[1:36:41] meter, there's no disconnect

[1:36:43] between them. Therefore, you

[1:36:46] know, the people that work

[1:36:48] on it have to be trained and

[1:36:49] licensed linesmen and those

[1:36:50] folks get paid a lot of money

[1:36:52] that we wouldn't have a enough

[1:36:54] work for somebody that was

[1:36:56] getting paid that much to do

[1:36:58] in the city alone. So it's most

[1:37:04] likely that the city would.

[1:37:06] Would have a contractor do that

[1:37:12] because of those high labor and

[1:37:15] insurance costs.

[1:37:17] >> That's good. I did have

[1:37:18] one. I think

[1:37:20] that's probably does make

[1:37:22] sense that would be the

[1:37:23] way we want to go. Just wanted

[1:37:26] to interrogate it a little bit.

[1:37:28] There's one portion

[1:37:29] that I don't think I heard. It

[1:37:31] kind of, you know, jumped out

[1:37:33] at me when I read it and that's

[1:37:35] that this. As I understand it,

[1:37:37] PEPCO is trying

[1:37:40] to charge a higher rate for

[1:37:41] their streetlights than they

[1:37:42] charge for other electricity

[1:37:44] use. I guess that's what you're

[1:37:46] assuming is their intention.

[1:37:47] They want to get out

[1:37:49] of the streetlight business.

[1:37:51] But that hasn't been approved

[1:37:52] by the Maryland Public

[1:37:54] Service Commission yet.

[1:37:56] Right. So if that does not get

[1:37:58] approved, when will we have a

[1:38:01] decision there? And if it does

[1:38:03] not get approved, would you

[1:38:05] recommend we change course

[1:38:06] again?

[1:38:08] >> I would definitely say once

[1:38:10] it gets approved, we should

[1:38:12] review it and make sure were

[1:38:13] there any additional changes,

[1:38:15] Danny, if you could predict

[1:38:17] when that's going

[1:38:18] to get through. You got my

[1:38:19] money? So we have been waiting

[1:38:21] for this thing. We've been told

[1:38:23] dates. None

[1:38:25] of them have come true. This is

[1:38:27] just the difficulty of dealing

[1:38:28] with PEPCO. I feel it's another

[1:38:30] reason to get as far away

[1:38:31] from him as you can.

[1:38:34] But I am concerned,

[1:38:35] like how much will it change?

[1:38:37] But our communication

[1:38:38] from them is they do seem

[1:38:40] to be establishing that this is

[1:38:41] like what's going to stick.

[1:38:43] It's kind of just getting it

[1:38:44] through the timelines right

[1:38:46] now.

[1:38:47] But it does appear that

[1:38:49] this is what it will be.

[1:38:52] >> Thank you. Mr. Redmond?

[1:38:53] >> Just if you covered it,

[1:38:55] please remind me. But the two

[1:38:56] hundred and plus thousand

[1:38:58] dollars of purchase, is that in

[1:38:59] the DPW budget or is it

[1:39:00] somewhere accounted for

[1:39:01] already?

[1:39:04] >> I can answer that there.

[1:39:06] The city has had money for

[1:39:07] streetlight replacement and LED

[1:39:09] upgrades

[1:39:10] in our capital budget every

[1:39:12] year

[1:39:13] for the past several years. So

[1:39:14] we have included money based

[1:39:16] on this current recommendation

[1:39:18] in our fiscal 26 CIP budget.

[1:39:22] >> Okay.Well, it'll have

[1:39:28] to come back, but...

[1:39:30] >> Always has

[1:39:32] to come back to you.

[1:39:34] >> Lucky you. All right.

[1:39:41] >> Sorry, I couldn't unmute

[1:39:47] there. So as far as the

[1:39:49] estimate to do the actual

[1:39:51] fixture replacement. So that's

[1:39:54] all done in house by Tanko.

[1:40:02] Are you the contractor or is

[1:40:04] that something that you have

[1:40:05] subcontractors for?

[1:40:08] >> Great question. So there'll

[1:40:09] be three pieces to the pie

[1:40:10] for the actual LED conversion.

[1:40:12] We're already one

[1:40:13] of your established ones.

[1:40:14] We're going

[1:40:15] to be the project manager.

[1:40:17] We're going to just make sure

[1:40:18] that the data is coming back

[1:40:19] from the field,

[1:40:20] lights are being converted,

[1:40:21] the right counts are ordered.

[1:40:23] Actually going

[1:40:24] to help you procure

[1:40:25] for the material and

[1:40:26] for the install separately. So

[1:40:28] we're already under contract

[1:40:29] for that, and we're going

[1:40:31] to be bidding out those items

[1:40:33] to make sure we get the best

[1:40:38] bang for the buck. Okay, so

[1:40:39] material and install,

[1:40:42] and it's actually the bulk

[1:40:43] of the cost, I want to say. It

[1:40:44] was. It was 577,000 of the

[1:40:46] 969. So that's.

[1:40:48] >> So that's an estimate,

[1:40:50] then?

[1:40:51] >> Yes, that's correct. We've

[1:40:52] done this enough. We've got

[1:40:53] what we think will be

[1:40:54] reasonable numbers,

[1:40:56] probably a little high

[1:40:57] to what we would expect

[1:40:58] to see back

[1:40:59] from the bid results.

[1:41:00] >> Okay, got it. Thank you.

[1:41:02] >> Thank you. Thank you for the

[1:41:03] presentation and colleagues,

[1:41:05] if there are no other

[1:41:07] questions, we are going

[1:41:08] to move on in our agenda.

[1:41:09] Thank you, folks.

[1:41:14] Proclamations. Vice President

[1:41:16] Waszczak?

[1:41:19] >> 7.a. HCC-361-FY25

[1:41:20] Proclamation in Celebration

[1:41:21] of June 2025 as LGBTQIA+

[1:41:24] Pride Month. I move that the

[1:41:27] Mayor and Council adopt a

[1:41:28] proclamation recognizing and

[1:41:31] honoring June, 2025 as LGBTQIA+

[1:41:33] Pride Month.

[1:41:37] 7.b. HCC-363-FY25 Proclamation

[1:41:39] in Celebration of June 2025 as

[1:41:42] Caribbean-American Heritage

[1:41:43] Month. I move the Mayor and

[1:41:45] Council adopt a proclamation

[1:41:46] recognizing and honoring June

[1:41:47] as Caribbean-American

[1:41:49] Heritage Month.

[1:41:51] 7.c. HCC-364-FY25 Proclamation

[1:41:53] in Celebration of June 2025 as

[1:41:54] Immigrant Heritage Month. I

[1:41:56] move the Mayor and Council

[1:41:57] adopt a proclamation

[1:41:58] recognizing and celebrating

[1:42:00] June as Immigrant Heritage

[1:42:01] Month in the City of

[1:42:03] Hyattsville.

[1:42:05] 7.d. HCC-365-FY25

[1:42:07] Proclamation Declaring June

[1:42:08] 6, 2025, as National Gun

[1:42:12] Violence Awareness Day. I move

[1:42:13] that the Mayor and Council

[1:42:15] declare June 6, 2025, as

[1:42:17] National Gun Violence

[1:42:18] Awareness Day in the City of

[1:42:19] Hyattsville.

[1:42:20] 7.e. HCC-366-FY25 Proclamation

[1:42:22] in Celebration of Juneteenth. I

[1:42:23] move the Mayor and Council

[1:42:25] adopt a Proclamation Observing

[1:42:26] and Celebrating June 19,

[1:42:31] 2025, as Juneteenth in the

[1:42:33] City of Hyattsville.

[1:42:34] 7.f. HCC-369-FY25

[1:42:36] Proclamation Honoring

[1:42:37] Riverdale Park Mayor Alan K.

[1:42:38] Thompson. I move that the

[1:42:39] Mayor and Council adopt a

[1:42:41] proclamation honoring Mayor

[1:42:42] Alan K. Thompson for his 16

[1:42:43] years of service and dedication

[1:42:45] as an elected official to the

[1:42:47] Town of Riverdale Park.

[1:42:48] >> Is there a second?

[1:42:51] >> Second.

[1:42:56] >> Moved and second. All

[1:42:57] in favor?

[1:42:58] >> Aye.

[1:42:59] >> Any opposed? Any abstensions?

[1:43:01] Okay, the ayes have it. Mr.

[1:43:05] Solomon, action items.

[1:43:11] >> Action agenda. 8.a.

[1:43:13] HCC-359-FY25 Streetlight

[1:43:15] Purchase Authorization. I move

[1:43:16] that the Mayor and Council

[1:43:17] authorize the City

[1:43:19] Administrator

[1:43:20] to negotiate and enter

[1:43:23] into an agreement with PEPCO

[1:43:26] for the purchase

[1:43:27] of streetlights

[1:43:28] within the incorporated City

[1:43:29] boundary,

[1:43:30] pending legal review.

[1:43:32] >> Okay, so we've already

[1:43:33] pretty much had a discussion

[1:43:34] about this, but Ms. Riddle,

[1:43:36] would you like to. Well, first

[1:43:37] of all,

[1:43:38] is there a second?

[1:43:39] >> Second.

[1:43:40] >> Would you like to add more

[1:43:41] to this, Ms. Riddle?

[1:43:42] >> Mr. Metzl.

[1:43:43] >> Thank you, Mayor Croslin. I

[1:43:44] think we have fully discussed

[1:43:45] this certainly. If the council

[1:43:47] have any additional questions,

[1:43:49] we'd be happy

[1:43:51] to answer them.

[1:43:57] >> Colleagues, any other

[1:44:00] questions? Seeing none. It's

[1:44:01] been moved. Well, there is one.

[1:44:02] Mr. Nisbett?

[1:44:03] >> Sorry if I missed this

[1:44:05] during the presentation,

[1:44:06] but just one question. For the

[1:44:08] street light conversion, how

[1:44:09] many companies were considered

[1:44:11] and taking on that portion or

[1:44:12] were there any companies that

[1:44:14] were considered?

[1:44:15] >> So we did attempt an RFP

[1:44:17] process. We received one

[1:44:20] solicitation from Tanko.

[1:44:22] Apparently there's very few

[1:44:24] companies that actually do the

[1:44:26] kind of work that Jason and his

[1:44:27] associates are doing

[1:44:29] at this juncture.

[1:44:32] >> Okay, thank you so much.

[1:44:36] >> You got it.

[1:44:38] >> Okay. As I was about

[1:44:41] to say,

[1:44:46] it's been moved and second.

[1:44:47] All in favor?

[1:44:50] >> Aye.

[1:44:52] >> Anybody opposed? Any

[1:44:53] abstensions? The ayes have it.

[1:44:54] So thank you very much,

[1:44:56] folks. We are down

[1:44:57] to council dialogue. So this is

[1:44:59] an opportunity

[1:45:01] for anyone who would like

[1:45:03] to say anything that they would

[1:45:05] like to say to the community or

[1:45:08] anyone else,

[1:45:10] you can raise your hand. Mr.

[1:45:11] Redmond, we'll start

[1:45:12] with you very quickly.

[1:45:13] >> Welcome to our newest

[1:45:15] colleagues. I've said it

[1:45:16] about 18 times, this will be

[1:45:17] the last time I congratulate

[1:45:18] any of the new folks. So just

[1:45:19] soak it in for today. I do

[1:45:20] truly look forward to working

[1:45:22] with the new folks and of

[1:45:25] course my returning and

[1:45:26] existing colleagues.

[1:45:30] >> Thank you. Mr. Solomon?

[1:45:32] >> I can continue

[1:45:35] to congratulate all of you.

[1:45:41] You're doing a great, great job

[1:45:42] and welcome. I also wanted

[1:45:44] to say we have Ward 5 community

[1:45:46] meeting scheduled for. Nate,

[1:45:47] when do we skip?

[1:45:51] >> We have it scheduled for.

[1:45:54] Oh, I just sent an email

[1:45:56] about it. Tuesday, June 17th

[1:45:58] at 6:30 at the Sovereign.

[1:46:01] >> As you noticed

[1:46:04] from last meeting, we approved

[1:46:06] $250 for food and drinks. So

[1:46:07] we'll have a great time and be

[1:46:09] well informed. And I look

[1:46:11] forward to sharing the stage

[1:46:12] with our new council colleague.

[1:46:15] Thank you.

[1:46:17] >> I'm glad you've learned that

[1:46:18] what date it was going

[1:46:19] to be on. Mr. Schaible?

[1:46:23] >> Yeah, I wanted to kind

[1:46:26] of stay on this theme of

[1:46:27] welcoming our new council

[1:46:28] members. Great

[1:46:30] to see you up here

[1:46:34] on the virtual dais with us.

[1:46:35] Look forward to working

[1:46:37] with you more and hearing about

[1:46:38] your initiatives as council

[1:46:40] members. I did

[1:46:44] without being too much of an

[1:46:48] old crank. I did want

[1:46:51] to just put this out there

[1:46:52] for some general thought. You

[1:46:54] know, we had three meetings

[1:46:55] today as council members,

[1:46:57] and one of them is

[1:46:59] during when most

[1:47:01] of us work at, you know,

[1:47:05] noon. I can't speak

[1:47:12] for everyone, but I think most

[1:47:14] of us have Monday through

[1:47:16] Friday day jobs. And I just

[1:47:17] wonder if we would want to

[1:47:19] reconsider how we structure

[1:47:21] these on this transition when

[1:47:22] we are bringing the new council

[1:47:26] on. I found today to be pretty

[1:47:27] harried and distracted from

[1:47:29] work and other familial

[1:47:30] responsibilities. So I wonder

[1:47:32] if we just had consecutive

[1:47:33] night meetings and kind

[1:47:35] of tried to stay out

[1:47:37] of daytime stuff for council.

[1:47:39] That would be a preference

[1:47:41] of mine. Thank you.

[1:47:43] >> Thank you. Mr. Haba.

[1:47:46] >> Thank you, Mayor. Same note

[1:47:51] here. I didn't get a chance

[1:47:53] to say this earlier,

[1:47:55] but I wanted to thank Council

[1:47:57] member Dennis and

[1:47:58] Councilmember Sandino

[1:48:00] for their years of service. It

[1:48:03] was always nice to kind

[1:48:06] of like, do the number games

[1:48:08] with Sam, so I really. It's

[1:48:10] that part and welcome

[1:48:11] to our new Councilmember. I

[1:48:14] look forward to working

[1:48:18] with you. Thank you.

[1:48:25] >> Ms. Lee?

[1:48:28] >> Good evening. I wanted

[1:48:30] to say welcome to all our new

[1:48:31] councilmembers. I look forward

[1:48:32] to working with all of you

[1:48:34] during your term. Also, I

[1:48:36] wanted to remind the residents

[1:48:37] in 9 zone 9B that parking

[1:48:39] permit renewal is taking place

[1:48:40] now, January 1st, June 1st

[1:48:42] through June 30th. So just be

[1:48:44] mindful of that if you need

[1:48:48] to renew your parking pass. If

[1:48:52] you have any questions,

[1:48:54] please feel free to reach out

[1:48:56] to me and Councilman Haba.

[1:49:00] Thank you.

[1:49:02] >> Thank you. Any other

[1:49:03] comments? Okay. Seeing none.

[1:49:05] Can I get a motion

[1:49:06] to adjourn, please?

[1:49:09] >> Move.

[1:49:12] >> Okay. Can we get a second?

[1:49:16] >> Second.

[1:49:18] >> Well,

[1:49:20] at least we got a second.

[1:49:22] Okay, so it's

[1:49:23] been moved. It's been second,

[1:49:25] third, and everything else.

[1:49:26] All in favor?

[1:49:28] >> Aye.

[1:49:29] >> Any opposed? Abstentions?

[1:49:31] No?

[1:49:33] >> Mr. Groenendyk, you're going

[1:49:35] to stay here with Mr. Redmond

[1:49:40] and continue the meeting while

[1:49:43] we leave. That's what council

[1:49:46] desires. You stay with Mr.

[1:49:50] Redmond. Everybody else is

[1:49:52] leaving. Good night, everybody.

City Council on 2025-06-02 7:00 PM

Agenda

Transcript