[0:05] I'll turn it over to you, Ian. >> All right.

[0:08] Um well, we have open mic for the Urban

[0:10] Forest meeting number three of the Urban Forest Task Force.

[0:14] Um I don't know I don't I don't know that

[0:16] we need to do a necessary round of introductions, but I recognize Anne

[0:19] Penick's online and Eleanor Garrett, Karen

[0:24] Bolster, and Melissa. >> She's Melissa Buckingham with the D and

[0:30] Sorry, with Pierce Conservation District.

[0:32] » Okay, excellent. Right. Um introductions Melissa was here in person last time,

[0:36] right? >> Right. Right. She just couldn't make it

[0:38] today in person. >> Right. And then And then in the room we

[0:41] have Good

[0:42] morning, Sam and Charlotte Rogers.

[0:45] » I'm Martin.

[0:48] » Christina. >> Same on Christina, Department of Natural

[0:51] Resources. >> Same on Christina.

[0:54] » Same on Christina. >> Same. Same.

[0:56] » And Christina Falco. >> Uh-huh.

[0:59] » Well, >> Uh Janet Erving.

[1:01] » I'm Mark Erving. Yes, I'm Mark Erving with the Planning Commission.

[1:04] » Yeah. Okay. >> All right. And then we have Ian down

[1:07] here. >> Yeah. Yeah. I think I'm with the parks.

[1:09] » I'm with the parks department. >> Same on.

[1:10] » Same. >> I'm not here because of

[1:12] » I don't know if that's an Urban Forest >> Are you Urban Forest or your background?

[1:16] » I'm with the parks. >> Sweet. Okay, there you go.

[1:19] » Certainly do. >> I'm conditions to be here.

[1:21] » City Council Yeah, exactly. The City Council said you were welcome to join

[1:24] Task Force and you said, >> Yes.

[1:26] » Yes. Appreciate your engagement. It's okay.

[1:29] All right. So, um let's see if I take it one step at a

[1:33] time here. Um yeah, so, you know, just as a reminder a

[1:37] couple of reminder slides of where we're at here. We're way down in the bottom

[1:40] corner of this slide. Um

[1:46] Uh we're working on the Urban Forest

[1:48] Management Plan as part of the various

[1:52] Natural Environment Climate Change Task Force, the NAT Task Forces.

[1:57] Um we're going to be drafting this plan. We as the resource group are going to be

[2:01] drafting a plan that's going to be edited and and

[2:05] resolved through city to present to the planning commission who are then going

[2:09] to even suggest to advise city council and

[2:12] hopefully get city council approval on it.

[2:16] Uh our agenda for today is kind of similar

[2:19] to the last time. What we want to do is go through again take take another deep

[2:22] dive at the indicators for for a sustainable urban forest. Look at how

[2:27] the the the current state of the of the city and and

[2:32] and community is. See if we can uncover any new goals, objectives, objectives,

[2:37] or actions from this conversation and then preview into the next meeting.

[2:43] So it I put it in like a 30 30 20. I think you

[2:47] know, through the course of this conversation we get really I'm just

[2:50] looking for that goals and objectives feedback throughout the conversation.

[2:56] And certainly if you're online and and you want me to slow down or ask a

[3:00] question, please don't hesitate.

[3:03] Uh this slide is similar slide you've seen

[3:05] before. This is this is our strategy for navigating urban forest management plan

[3:09] development. We had focused conversation on trees and

[3:13] natural areas last time. This time we're going to take a look at the private

[3:16] properties and community stakeholders. So you can see you know,

[3:20] as in the handout, you know, we're going to look at all the

[3:24] different uh kind of categories of stakeholders from the neighborhoods to

[3:28] the large institutional land owners, real estate, yada yada, you know, down

[3:32] that list. And the only reason I'm not going to read

[3:35] them off here as bullet points is because this is exactly where we're

[3:37] headed. Um

[3:40] So in in preparation for this meeting, myself, my team, some early

[3:45] conversations with Karen and and EXP,

[3:49] we we

[3:51] we've drafted up we we can analyze

[3:55] the city and community community collaboration according to a bunch of

[4:00] indicators for sustainable urban forest. Uh so you can see our our initial

[4:05] assessment gave gave a a low performance level in all of these different

[4:09] categories. And that's not it's not necessarily a detrimental thing or

[4:15] you know, it's it's to me it's an opportunity, a space where

[4:19] the city can make improvements. And and some of these categories may not even

[4:23] these are kind of a standard approach. Some of these categories may not even

[4:26] readily well apply to the city. Um I'm thinking of like the large land

[4:30] large institutional land owners. We'll get into that. There may only be a few.

[4:35] Um you know, some cities we've worked with and you know, they have they have a

[4:40] very large land owners in their in in our very large

[4:44] um commercial property or industrial complexes and things like that.

[4:49] Um we'll we'll we'll we'll we'll go into that. Um but but suffice to say um

[4:53] I think we added in this little reminder here that

[4:56] the city does cuz we we graded as low, but the city does have a history of

[5:00] partnering with some volunteers and organizations

[5:03] um to address park beautification and invasive species removal and all of

[5:06] those other things. Um but they are they are they are siloed

[5:10] um and and not necessarily handled in a comprehensive way. And and this is this

[5:13] is what an urban forest management plan sets to do is to bring bring alignment

[5:17] of all these different little bits of effort that go on around

[5:21] the city and and and kind of unify it in a

[5:24] comprehensive way. Uh

[5:28] in in preparation for this, uh you know, the city the city has done done research

[5:33] that so so so last time we were we were leading

[5:36] into um the natural the resource assessment work

[5:40] that was done. This time we're we're going to like like a lot of the the

[5:43] notes that I've provided to you you got folks here are referenced from um this

[5:48] establishing the roots of urban forestry in the city of Washington.

[5:51] If you haven't read it, it's not necessarily going to be critical to this

[5:54] meeting. But what it does is it provides provides

[5:57] a foundation that we're working with as a

[6:01] consultant. Say the city city's already done a lot of research about what it

[6:05] what its limits are and what it needs to do to set up a an urban forestry program

[6:10] through through this document that was accepted by the city.

[6:14] And in it you'll see you know they've got

[6:18] you know really it's a

[6:20] kind of a similar perspective to that that previous slide that I shared that

[6:24] you know you need to know what you have. So you you see assess the resources. You

[6:28] look at your community to build some lasting support and you and you work in

[6:32] you know the city to provide a lot of the

[6:35] substantial leadership to sustain that sustainable growth plan.

[6:40] » Is that available online? >> Uh yeah yeah I think I I think it's even

[6:45] posted on the the neck urban forestry resource. Certainly if

[6:50] it's if it's not it's not readily available to you we'll we'll make sure

[6:53] to get it back to you this meeting.

[6:57] Uh so so taking a look at so so now we're going to take a deep dive into

[7:01] each one of these different indicators categories. And the first one I think is

[7:05] probably the most robust place to have a conversation around would be you know

[7:10] neighborhood action. So the standard the standard that we would

[7:14] like to to be trying to achieve is that all the residents in all of Lakewood

[7:18] neighborhoods cooperate and participate in urban forest management at the at the

[7:23] neighborhood level. And urban forestry is a neighborhood scale issue. Now we've

[7:28] we've said that there's little or no involvement right now as our current

[7:31] performance at a current performance level. But you know

[7:35] what what could it be for the to to become high performing where the

[7:41] majority of all neighborhoods are organized, connected, and working

[7:44] towards a unified set of goals and priorities.

[7:47] Uh now I'm I'm inclined to just let that

[7:49] hang out there, but I but maybe you want to see that is that a lot of communities

[7:54] uh um they'll they'll maybe launch

[7:56] neighborhood stewardship programs uh or other types of you know,

[7:59] leadership roles. Um and do any of you have experiences with your own

[8:04] neighborhood or with any of you guys have any

[8:05] » No, I'm a lake So, we have a lake uh

[8:09] American Lake Improvement Club. So, they're we're really focused on the

[8:12] water. >> Okay.

[8:14] And and and I'm looking at that list now, and American Lake is not

[8:18] necessarily on that list. Do you Do you sit in one of those categories?

[8:21] » Tillicum the Tillicum >> Um

[8:23] » Woodbrook? >> Wood Tillicum. Okay, Tillicum is um and

[8:28] you can see American Lake. So, Lake City. Let's go Let's say Lake City.

[8:31] That's my >> Oh, okay.

[8:32] » That's my neighborhood. And the shores of American Lake are there.

[8:35] » Yeah, okay. So, there's there's there's even a even an additional association

[8:39] that's >> Yeah, it's right.

[8:41] » working on issues around American Lake. >> It definitely um is dealing with

[8:44] invasive species, you know, um terrestrial and aquatic.

[8:48] » Right. >> And um it has a lot to do with park use.

[8:51] The neighborhood has split the neighborhood into

[8:54] um whether we wanted park, what kind of park, um where parking is going to be,

[8:59] you know, so we're very involved in that.

[9:01] » Okay. Okay. Um >> Also, the rotary. I'm on the rotary

[9:06] improvement. So, that's uh we're doing uh beautification

[9:10] in some cases. In one case, we're planting a roundabout.

[9:14] So, aware these people are at least I'm sure

[9:17] aware of each of these associations.

[9:23] » And and And anybody else have neighborhood experiences? Maybe

[9:28] you can speak up. >> I'm in Tillicum.

[9:29] » So, >> The the all of those associations, I've

[9:34] been to every single one of them. They're all very active throughout the

[9:37] throughout the city and engaged. Um you know, of course they're they're I

[9:41] wouldn't say hyper-focused focused on issues that are unique to those

[9:45] particular neighborhoods, but I think the overall feel in all of them is a a

[9:50] large sense of pride and and you know, uh for the area that they represent and

[9:56] and wanting to be involved in how the area is developed and moves forward.

[10:02] I think these are the same folks that are coming out to city council meetings

[10:05] and are just engaged in in various, you know, um method of methods.

[10:11] » Yeah. So so the the down the bottom corner

[10:15] there you see the 2022 Tree Advisory Committee uh did did did their homework

[10:20] and prioritized tree planting areas based on uh you know, equity uh

[10:25] and access to urban forest canopy. Um with uh you know, like like Lake City

[10:31] area, uh the downtown, Tillicum Woodbrook, Custer, uh Fort Steilacoom.

[10:36] So um uh

[10:39] you know, I I in absence of any further direction from

[10:42] you folks, I would be, you know, writing into the plan emphasis

[10:47] um emphasis to to cultivate, you tree planting opportunities or tree care

[10:52] opportunities in in somewhere like Lake City.

[10:56] Yeah. >> Um I just want to point out that um the

[10:59] area that has the lowest tree cover uh canopy cover is in the east and as

[11:05] you can see there's no neighborhood association there.

[11:08] So it might be a nice idea like to start something with the foundational idea

[11:13] being the trees. I'm so important to that. Maybe that would be like uh you

[11:17] know, motivating um

[11:20] impetus to them.

[11:24] » Once these hours actually you just we've just completed the renovation of

[11:28] Wright's Lake Park up in the northeast and there's a lot of volunteer action

[11:34] for like getting rid of the invasive ivy,

[11:37] blackberries, things like that.

[11:41] That could be a good access or a good starting point for getting more

[11:45] volunteers. Um I think it's an easy access point just

[11:48] having, you know, come and support your park to be, you know, Right.

[11:52] do flashy >> Right. That's That's where it's like

[11:55] park boards can find it. And it really did renovate the

[11:58] neighborhood. Made a huge big difference. And

[12:01] definitely the people are walking there more.

[12:04] Um and the volunteers turned out and want and want to do more work. So I

[12:08] don't know if you >> Oh, yeah, and the the mountain bikers as

[12:11] well. There's a volunteer group that keeps the mountain biking

[12:15] area about healthy. >> And the geocachers, I think, were

[12:18] similar group. So

[12:21] everybody who's in the woods has to geocache.

[12:24] » Yeah, I think if you can get people to, you know, from the neighborhood to

[12:27] start, you know, helping at works like park,

[12:30] » Right. >> spread through, you know, more of the

[12:33] neighborhood. >> Well, and what often happens is this is

[12:36] is so you know, the city wants to plant more

[12:39] trees, at least in the public areas, you know, actually on private property as

[12:43] well. There's two different types of, you know, what avenues to grow the grow

[12:46] the urban forest. And the the the

[12:52] you know, the the the neighborhood may be the source of volunteers to get those

[12:56] trees in the ground or to help identify, you know, what trees they want. And if

[13:01] they they, you know, but it but it does require some leadership from the city.

[13:04] So, um

[13:06] uh you know, I I it's

[13:10] Again, I think that that sounds like, you know, the the

[13:13] bigger actions and objectives out of this would be to to create some projects

[13:19] within these um within these communities. Maybe it's

[13:24] um um I mean, I I don't I don't I

[13:29] I don't know here to say how I should have prioritized which one of these

[13:32] communities, you know, to put put the effort into. Um but maybe that's why

[13:37] that's why we wrote it up as an as more of an objective rather than than an

[13:41] immediate action cuz it's not really a low-hanging fruit that I'm hearing,

[13:45] right? Like a like a an easy opportunity might be like you know, um

[13:50] we have an individual in this neighborhood who's really excited and

[13:54] wants to plant 50 trees that have already talked to me about it. And uh

[13:57] they're just looking for they're looking for funding and support. That would be

[14:00] an easy action and move forward. I'm not necessarily

[14:03] hearing that, but we want to cultivate to you know, those kinds of people,

[14:06] right? So So So

[14:10] or both in the wires.

[14:16] So maybe uh an objective might be um

[14:22] infiltrating

[14:26] urban forestry

[14:32] at neighborhood level.

[14:38] Does the The city can tell tell the neighborhood hey, we know

[14:42] you know, there's space for trees here. We want to get them in the ground, you

[14:46] know, what we can offer and and there's vehicles for private property tree

[14:49] giveaways. Um but you know, you don't plant a tree

[14:52] in someone's front yard and they don't want it. You you you you wind up

[14:56] battling right there right then and there, you know, the same plant a street

[14:59] tree and you have an an adjacent owner uh you know, has to

[15:03] assume some maintenance care responsibility. So you know, you also

[15:06] need some education outreach, right? And I think you know, that that that can

[15:11] be like the short-term actions making sure that you know, cities cities'

[15:14] websites um and

[15:17] informational resources lend itself to saying look, you need to plant a tree,

[15:21] we want you to help keep the tree. Anybody

[15:27] » I also think it'd be really helpful if there was

[15:30] a plan. Um I just think about what happened in

[15:35] or Silicon Forest. Uh just I think I mentioned this before,

[15:40] but when the when the Saxon burned, suddenly there were people with all

[15:44] kinds of plans. I want to plant a tree. I've planted a tree. I want you to have

[15:49] goats. And after after you know, there was no

[15:53] integrated plan. All these volunteers were coming out, but no

[15:56] like well, we can use them here and here. And so trees got planted and they

[16:01] died because nobody watered them. There wasn't any way

[16:04] management. And what I said is is there a city volunteer coordinator? I mean

[16:09] would it would it be a big ask to to say say and is there an existing volunteer

[16:13] coordinator at the city that we could start you know, leveraging in this plan

[16:17] or is that something that would need to be hired?

[16:20] » Uh no, there's a person on staff whose initial responsibility was with our

[16:23] neighborhood associations, but he's also taking on a new role where they are kind

[16:28] of refining how volunteers are brought in, trained, and then turned loose on

[16:34] whatever projects that he'll also be responsible for.

[16:37] » Okay. >> So it would be just Chris. You know,

[16:38] it'd be really good. >> Yeah.

[16:40] » Yeah, so so so it's it's strengthening What do you say like strengthening the

[16:44] capabilities of the >> Yeah.

[16:45] » Yeah. Yeah.

[16:50] » But I I really feel this community has a lot of volunteer spirit. I thought of

[16:55] people that are used to serving in the military for example and they're they're

[16:58] so active. They want to pitch in. They want to take charge.

[17:03] We've got great leaders out there, but we aren't able to really access that

[17:07] resource without a plan. >> And and do you think so so

[17:12] perhaps creating that you know, if every neighborhood association had someone at

[17:16] that meeting that represented us as a neighborhood steward and was routinely

[17:19] paying attention to the opportunities for trees.

[17:22] » Yeah.

[17:25] And it yeah, they were acknowledged as such and given

[17:28] uh some sort of

[17:31] job description. >> And I I don't think that's kind of out

[17:36] there and you kind of touched on this earlier. We do have

[17:39] a fair amount of community groups that are service-oriented like Rotary that

[17:44] are thriving and actually have money to spend on projects but they don't have

[17:49] pathways to engage with just yet. So, if we provided that pathway

[17:53] I I think there there are places and opportunities that exist currently where

[17:58] resources are available including financial and manpower that just they

[18:03] just need to be given a direction and and some guidance.

[18:07] Um and I think they're they're more than ready and willing to step up

[18:11] in in that capacity. >> Great pathways for

[18:15] under-engagement, local local funder engagement. I mean I think cuz we're

[18:19] going to talk about that under-engagement

[18:22] at at the regional level as well.

[18:27] Yeah, that's that's definitely something that we want to take advantage of there

[18:31] and then it could be as much as as simple as Home Depot saying there's a

[18:34] you know, they want they want to you know, help sponsor a program and maybe

[18:39] they're providing trees for planting project in the in the in Goodwill

[18:43] District. >> It would be nice to also have like a a

[18:46] showcase piece. Like we're going to restore this and we're going to direct

[18:51] everybody's attention to that. And I'm thinking about um Phil's uh

[18:56] Phil's Urban Farm. The

[18:58] used to be game farm. >> The old uh

[19:01] » Oh, South South Central, yeah. So, that

[19:05] that is a focal point and it's it draws attraction and it also it funding

[19:10] itself. Like people who want to apply for grants for that.

[19:13] Um it's it becomes come and see what we have done.

[19:20] Or maybe you want to pick a

[19:23] » You should pick a location for your examples

[19:27] of urban forest and UDF

[19:30] best practices. >> Yeah.

[19:32] » You don't want to live across the street from where they paved them.

[19:36] » Well, it's starting You got to start

[19:38] somewhere. >> Yeah, that that was

[19:40] » That's what That's where the city cut down about 12 years ago for a sidewalk.

[19:44] They're very large so >> Okay.

[19:46] » We have to learn to cut them. >> Yeah, yeah, right, right. Um

[19:51] I I mean I think you know our our very first meeting Dan and you were talking

[19:54] about like a like a lot of cities will establish some sort of arboretum an

[19:58] example of trees that will grow well in the city. So that could be that could be

[20:01] formed part of that showcase. >> Right.

[20:03] » Right? Um so you say what kind of trees do I want to plant in my yard? You can

[20:06] go to that showcase location and you you named one of

[20:10] » Spot? As in uh you know a

[20:11] » Important Was Lake Worth Park? >> Lake Worth Park is gone.

[20:15] » And it's Lake Worth State Yeah.

[20:17] » Um yeah, but I mean an arboretum arboretum would be very

[20:21] interesting. >> Yeah.

[20:23] » Wold does could maybe be a partner in that cuz they have gardens and credit

[20:28] gardens. They have incredible but they might be interested or we can

[20:32] maybe interest them in showing developing

[20:38] native a native uh garden.

[20:40] » No, that was Lake Lake Wold. >> Yes, W O L D.

[20:44] » Yeah, I've seen that.

[20:48] » Yeah, yeah.

[20:53] » Okay. And I'm probably going to just fill this

[20:57] up with ideas. I mean I wanted to see if I could keep them

[21:00] categorized but I don't think it would be successful.

[21:02] » Case might be partnering with Dave Ousley or Derek House. Derek House but

[21:06] um His college environment

[21:10] He's got He's been having some great restoration of Flood Creek.

[21:16] Um but it's kind of small. Flood Creek goes

[21:20] all through like what it and it's covered with weed canary grass and

[21:24] blackberries. You can barely see it most of the time. But if that could be

[21:27] something that we could maybe work on opening up and you know oak

[21:31] swallowtail islands. >> I I I I I hear that and I think what

[21:35] what I was thinking about was more like like a a spot that is is com- like a

[21:39] common urban area for urban forest. Right? So not not necessarily going into

[21:45] into an an you know an ecologically

[21:49] » Just so you see that we we cross Flood Creek twice.

[21:52] » Okay. >> And so

[21:54] if we thought that there was a way to clear and see

[21:58] » Yeah. Okay. >> something

[22:00] » Okay. So so I I catch that. Is that Is that

[22:04] » And you can actually we could yeah, we could actually just

[22:07] showcase his project. You know.

[22:09] » I know. >> Yeah, talk about him and what he's

[22:11] doing. >> All right. And that might that that

[22:13] might even be a short-term action to just to say and make some modifications

[22:16] to the city's website next year. So I'll follow like that. Yeah.

[22:21] » So what do you think? I was going to say before I mean it's nice to bring some of

[22:24] the planting and the trees and stuff. But I think before that I think

[22:28] the care of the trees has to be sorted out

[22:32] like who's going to water all this stuff?

[22:34] » Right. Neighborhood stewards. You might have a set of a neighborhood

[22:38] steward program. >> And they don't have to go like driving

[22:41] around and water >> Perhaps or or like the city the city

[22:44] will get you know we can get to a point maybe where the city has has funds for a

[22:49] watering program to you know to to contribute to this project. So the

[22:54] neighborhood galvanizes for a day, plants 50 trees there, everybody takes

[22:58] home and takes home a little note about the tree that's in their front yard

[23:01] that's got plans what they should do, and if they're not capable of watering

[23:04] it, that's where the city might be able to step in and say, "You know, we'll

[23:07] organize them in in a different way to say, okay, you know, it's we planted a

[23:11] tree in your front yard, you're going to keep an eye on it, but we're going to

[23:14] come by, we've got water bags, and we're going to water and prune and and and set

[23:18] up a program to to make sure the trees stay."

[23:21] » So, it doesn't come out like what Linda was saying, like that, you know, like

[23:25] people randomly do something and then like they die or something.

[23:27] » Right, right. You get You get real excited to plant a memorial tree, you

[23:31] you do it you do it middle style, you throw it in the park, and you you you

[23:35] you wish it well, and then you recognize

[23:37] that the city doesn't have any schedule to take care of your trees.

[23:42] And cuz they need a lot of care, so. >> The second thing was an idea, I mean, it

[23:47] maybe it would be nice because it's right next to city hall,

[23:51] and easy to keep an eye on, and it would be would improve it really a lot, and

[23:57] it's new. So, it'd be like a new site. Is that

[24:00] apartment complex over there? They're going to need a lot of trees, so

[24:05] maybe like plant some of the trees there and have

[24:07] those people involved, and you know, it's like

[24:10] very close to city hall, and I think it's fair that city at least was looking

[24:14] forward to have um all those new apartments, so so it'd

[24:18] be a nice way to engage and get them involved.

[24:20] It'd be really a good site, too, right? Cuz they're making those new apartments

[24:23] there. >> That That was a good way to segue if we

[24:27] keep if we to go to the next slide, which is your large private

[24:31] institutional land owners. I mean, that's that's kind of they they they may

[24:34] not be qualified as the as the large as you're describing, but it's certainly a

[24:38] high-profile opportunity to make a showcase with the right partnership and

[24:42] the right alignment of effort. >> This is also the shopping center.

[24:45] Shopping center is the apartment complex, and

[24:49] I guess the street is a >> I think it I think they don't even have

[24:51] a parking lot. If you're going to put it in a parking lot,

[24:54] we could do this. >> We could

[24:57] » you know, just >> Well,

[24:59] » I don't think it can require that, but here you can probably a lot of parking

[25:02] spot. What are you going to do on the site? Are you going to be planning where

[25:06] are you going to push your your trees in the park? How are you going to pick

[25:09] that? Are you going to be, you know, just out of that in the natural plan?

[25:12] What are you going to be? >> Yeah, so part of

[25:15] any permit that comes in, and Mr. Good speak more eloquently on this, but

[25:20] there are significant planning considerations for anybody putting in

[25:25] a building permit or a business license application that includes traffic impact

[25:29] plan, parking plan, um,

[25:32] uh, removal or addition of trees, that's all

[25:36] considered when they put those initial planning requests in.

[25:40] But, as far as what can or can't be required, that'd be a great question for

[25:43] Mr. Good. >> Yeah, I mean, there's code requirements

[25:46] and then there's policy as well that talk about landscaping vegetation,

[25:50] um, requirements and then things that are encouraged or discouraged. And so,

[25:55] if you're going down the path of this should happen in parking lots or this

[25:59] should happen in, um, project review and approvals, that would

[26:03] be recommendations that could come through the urban forest management plan

[26:07] for the city to take a look at as potential code amendments.

[26:10] » Right. Right.

[26:14] I'll put that in over here as the bigger things, codes,

[26:17] amendments.

[26:22] » Or maybe better Last time and last time I think we were

[26:26] saying about the parking lots that we could see through the window, that would

[26:29] be increased costs, right?

[26:33] Really good point. >> But, maybe we could help these trees, so

[26:36] the trees, so ones that are dying in the parks.

[26:42] » Um, okay, so so the so the the the this the second second category here is, uh,

[26:47] that large and large and private institutional land owners brace CY goals

[26:51] and objectives through targeted resource management plans.

[26:55] Um and in some case like I was thinking there's the the the hospital

[26:59] the West the Western >> Western State

[27:01] » Western State >> Right. You know, that's the

[27:04] the largest hospital in in Washington or something like that.

[27:10] » There's only two state mental health ones up in Eastern and Western.

[27:13] » Yeah, exactly. So it's so and I don't I haven't looked up what how many acres

[27:16] they have, but if we kind of frame them as a maybe an example of an institution

[27:20] that you know, no you know, if you went to that institution and and they they

[27:23] know that you know, tree or if they don't, they can certainly be

[27:28] taught through research that trees benefit people's human mental health.

[27:32] And you know, and and you know, that can be a showcasing opportunity. Um it can

[27:36] also be a place you want to stay away from. If they have this if if they if

[27:40] the if the institution has a a 50-year vision of building out an extra building

[27:46] in the footprint of of a handful of Garry oaks that we would want I'm sure

[27:50] we could could we not have that conversation and you know, have have

[27:54] help have the city kind of engage with that, you know,

[27:58] » They did call a gigantic building project down there. I think they managed

[28:02] to not cut down too many trees. >> Right. Right. Like they're on board with

[28:07] the idea of building something that preserves some of the character of the

[28:11] city, you know, and some some companies some

[28:15] industries aren't necessarily into that, you know, they just want to

[28:20] get that space and and acquire the property, cut down the

[28:24] trees, build things build build >> Anecdotally, I I think

[28:28] I think uh since you're mentioning them specifically and they do have a rather

[28:32] large project going on over there right now, it is worth mentioning. I think

[28:35] they've been a a a responsible partner in this area and

[28:38] and and uh in the development of that

[28:41] project and the execution, certainly I think they've given precedence and and I

[28:46] have a desire to uh move forward in a way that makes

[28:49] sense to the ecology of of the area. >> Mhm.

[28:52] » See, and I I think I think it's like when I write down the we know in in the

[28:56] plan we want to recognize the recognize some of these entities as being

[29:02] important to the to the city, important partners to the city.

[29:05] I'm going to just say I'm going to just recognize them.

[29:18] I mean and that might be like like like I could

[29:22] see us in the in the in in the UFMP recognizing how much can be cuz we have

[29:26] that information. How much can be in that large parcel? So we've got the

[29:29] hospital, you know, and and so we could say the hospital has this much and and

[29:34] and are there I thought I saw that there are parks in

[29:37] the city that aren't necessarily city managed parks.

[29:40] » Um there's several privately Yeah. >> Um I mean is it I guess I could work

[29:45] with you Tiffany to to firm up a whole list.

[29:48] » Sure. >> Does it belong to the city?

[29:51] » Is that county or like the >> Yes, it's city.

[29:54] » Which one? >> Cedar Lake.

[29:56] » Oh, yeah. >> It's city.

[30:00] » What was that What was that one, Christina?

[30:02] » Cedar Lake belongs to Cedar Lake. >> S E

[30:06] F Y >> You got it.

[30:12] » Okay. Um Tiffany, do you do you recall if the

[30:16] if if the facet assessment looked at non-city properties? I thought I think

[30:21] it I thought it only looked >> It was the public right-of-way, but it

[30:24] was also large parcels that were owned by like the school district. Yeah. It

[30:29] did look at Western State Hospital, St. Clare Hospital, and the school district.

[30:33] Yeah. >> Okay. Okay. So we will definitely re-tap

[30:36] that. Um

[30:38] you know, other than that, I mean I I I I don't know if they like like to be to

[30:44] to have a high high function relationship with the large land owners

[30:47] land owners. You might have clear and concise goals that are established for

[30:51] large land owners through direct education and assistance

[30:55] programs and key land owners and institutions have management plans in

[30:59] place. So like they in the long run maybe West View Hospital has a 20-year

[31:04] urban forest management plan for their property, all right?

[31:08] So Well, I

[31:12] don't know if that's up here, but that's you know, that that would be the the

[31:15] aspiration in the long run. Um

[31:19] We go We go to the next slide. How are we doing on time? Okay.

[31:23] Um we might might have to might have to speed things along

[31:27] just a little bit just to just to hit on each one of these topics, but we'll

[31:30] we'll see. Uh green industry involvement. So So

[31:33] this category is where the green industry works with the city citywide

[31:38] urban forest goals and objectives. And the city and its partners capitalize on

[31:44] local green industry expertise and innovation. So

[31:46] » Can I stop you right there? Yeah. Coming from the housing background that

[31:50] I have, green industry means something different than I think the way you're

[31:53] using it. So can you define that, please?

[31:55] » Oh, sure. Okay. So So these could be like like like the chosen slide here.

[32:00] The green industry would be like the people that are doing tree work

[32:04] with landscapers, tree workers, you know,

[32:06] cuz cuz you could have you could have a really robust program that trees, but

[32:10] there might be a culture of poor pruning practices out there that that you would

[32:14] want to try to make effective change on.

[32:18] I I you know, I remember working with Renton and they had issues with you

[32:23] know, the the all the car auto lots want to be able to make sure everybody can

[32:28] see their cars. So they every year will pollard their trees down to down to the

[32:32] stubs, which is a very poor practice. Doesn't lead to can't be and it's and

[32:37] and it's arguably not very effective and expensive for them, but the landscapers

[32:41] that are doing the work are still saying, "Oh, well, if you're paying me,

[32:43] I'll cut it however you want me to cut it." So, there's education that the city

[32:47] can bring to the table on both fronts. And and then in terms of other green

[32:52] industry, you know, it could be the nurseries and

[32:54] the hardware stores that are selling the trees.

[32:57] You know, if the if they have a the city has a preferred list and you're

[33:01] communicating with that, they might you can start getting you know, positions in

[33:05] place to get the trees that you want to have in the city available. Cuz that's

[33:09] I've seen that happen, too, that you know,

[33:11] the desirable trees just aren't even being grown or they're they're you don't

[33:15] have to order them 2 years in advance or 3 years in advance.

[33:18] » Um >> Two ball ball trees.

[33:21] » I also when I saw green industry, I was thinking the same as you, spirit. Like

[33:26] » Well, >> The term green industry also was I I was

[33:29] confused what you meant by that originally.

[33:31] » Oh, okay. >> So, so I I would also think that it

[33:34] would be better just to call tree industry something.

[33:37] » Tree industry, yeah. Okay. Okay. >> Cuz it doesn't it has a different

[33:40] meaning. >> Yeah. Yeah.

[33:42] I just thought

[33:46] » Yeah, you have a lot of opportunities um

[33:50] for like cross disciplinary training

[33:54] amongst like city staff you know, and also with like any contractor tree

[33:58] workers and non-contracted nurseries. Um even like going all the way down to

[34:03] the homeowners and some of the companies like

[34:06] making sure that everyone's on the same page on like strategies cuz it's like no

[34:10] talking is put in the city code. So, like that's that's pretty clear off the

[34:14] bat like that's like a goal, but how you communicate that and how you like

[34:19] about that. And your your industry workers I think

[34:22] it's is an objective or a goal or even an

[34:25] action actually like, you know, provide like training opportunities for staff

[34:30] and contracted tree care workers. Make sure everyone's on the same page. Even

[34:36] something about uh going a little bit more into what the

[34:40] current tree policies and ordinances look like to make sure that they know

[34:45] what they need to abide by, what what boundaries are in place when they're

[34:49] working in Lakewood. Yeah, cuz a lot of these companies are

[34:51] working across King and Pierce County. And so, they don't really know who what

[34:56] city cares and which one doesn't. >> Right. Right.

[34:59] » Okay, so. >> Yeah.

[35:01] » What does the last one say? Local? >> Local the local policies.

[35:05] » Local policies. Yeah. I was going to say um I think

[35:08] uh the first thing that has to be done uh

[35:12] after the training is training the city with that.

[35:16] Because um I I don't think that they necessarily

[35:20] also can judge well with what problem pruning is. Like, I don't have that

[35:24] experience. Once there was a um

[35:27] a big very upset word about

[35:31] illegally and terribly, you know, everything was cut off except for

[35:35] basically the trunk of the tree by Black Angus. And when

[35:39] when I reported this to code enforcement, you know, they went and

[35:43] they checked everything, but the deputy city attorney, she told me that "Oh,

[35:49] that was just pruning, so that is not you know, it's not code enforcement."

[35:53] So, I mean we assume that people know what pruning

[35:56] is, but I think really there needs to be somebody expert to interpret what

[36:00] exactly means. >> And and and and we'll we'll we can come

[36:04] back to this slide, but you've done an excellent job of getting us to the next

[36:07] slide, which is about city departments and agencies cooperating. Yeah, yeah,

[36:11] yeah, it's like it's like you read my mind and

[36:13] we're going to do that. This is the direction we want to go in. And and

[36:16] we'll we we will spend a whole another task force session talking about the

[36:21] city what we know about the city's operations and the specific things the

[36:24] city could do to improve to improve. But I mean, I I do see it, it's it's it's

[36:28] like the like the city staff can can help the the the local tree workers by

[36:34] hosting hosting events and even demonstrating to leadership, you know,

[36:37] what what what the right thing is to do. Um

[36:42] You know, that I I I did want to float out there with the the the with the

[36:46] green industry is that uh like the city of Seattle established a a registry for

[36:52] um tree tree work in the city. And if you're not on that registry, you're not

[36:55] approved. Like, if you if a a homeowner sends in a permit application to remove

[36:59] to remove a tree, they can only choose from the approved city city vendors. And

[37:04] and it's it I don't know if there's appetite for

[37:07] that right away or if that's something that they, you know, you think it might

[37:11] be reasonable to explore here, but I always pitch that as it's similar to um

[37:16] how you need a license to be a hairstylist. You know, there's health

[37:19] concerns there, so you want to have that little like if you're not operating

[37:23] in a way that, you know, if contrary to public health, you know, you're going to

[37:27] you're going to have your business shut down. If you're not taking care of

[37:30] trees, following ISA best management practices, you're probably not going to

[37:34] be able to operate business in the city. And and that but that would be that

[37:38] would be a big step, you know, and but they like that wouldn't be that

[37:41] wouldn't be as quick as [clears throat] you necessarily

[37:44] » I don't know if that would be a big step or not.

[37:46] Because when you do an RFP for something like treating the lake, you've got to

[37:51] have certain certificates and you have to

[37:54] have it show >> If you want to register somewhere, you

[37:57] just, you know, >> Yeah, so

[37:59] » Yeah, I mean, I think like they like to get kicked off with the Seattle

[38:02] registry, you have to you have to be doing

[38:06] doing breaking city code like actively doing work tree work that is goes

[38:11] against city code, cutting down a tree without a permit.

[38:13] » But, it wouldn't be hard for a city to say, "We're going to hire you, but

[38:17] you've got to meet these standards." So, you are

[38:20] » It I think the issue is when it's the private property owners are also hiring

[38:24] folks. >> And how would that be tracked? Yeah.

[38:26] Yeah. >> I mean I'll I'll I maybe I won't put

[38:29] that one up here as a as an official idea, but I but I it's certainly

[38:33] something I think is is is a real Well, maybe it

[38:36] » So in Seattle, do the private property owners have to follow the same

[38:40] or they can just hire whoever they want? >> Well,

[38:43] they can they they can So if I I think it is the way way it

[38:47] works is if they want to if they want to do work on a on a tree in their front

[38:51] yard that's a city managed city city owned tree or right-of-way tree, they

[38:57] have to they have to use um um city approved registered contractors.

[39:03] I but I I I kind of think it's operates for private properties, too. You're

[39:07] You're nodding your head. Like I'm on that list and I know it's

[39:11] essential that it cuz you know, our company can't do but as far as I

[39:15] understand, we can't do any work in the city on the city work with them. Well,

[39:18] but I think even on private property, too.

[39:21] That's true. >> I think that the city doesn't can't

[39:25] can't control that if a private citizen hires one of the companies to cut things

[39:29] off of their place. But the way, you know, when they reach out and they're

[39:32] like, "Hey, we need someone to like bring this tree. Can you recommend you

[39:35] send them this list?" Which you have definitely a way to say yes. It could be

[39:39] that yes, but certain right.

[39:43] standards of of care so that the it retains a value

[39:48] their real estate value, you know. It's something that

[39:51] » HOAs are controversial. I don't know how many HOAs are more peaceful,

[39:55] but I think that would go over like what I believe in for a lot of neighborhoods,

[39:59] to be honest. Just from what we've seen.

[40:05] » Something like that on city business license.

[40:09] Would that be I mean, if you if you don't abide by city

[40:14] you know, guidelines about pruning or whatever, then then they not have the

[40:18] city business license. in. >> Remote.

[40:21] » Yeah. >> No violations, so yeah.

[40:24] » And that's good right there. So I mean there are there are there are mechanisms

[40:26] in place, but but then you you know, you're you're a chainsaw

[40:30] operator with a pickup truck, you open up your business license, that business

[40:33] license gets shuttered, you say, "Well, I'll change my name and open up a new

[40:37] business." But I think that's I think there's other ordinances like this.

[40:41] » If you had If you did I mean

[40:44] I've done business >> Once they get a violation.

[40:46] » Pretty useful. Um you get repeat customers.

[40:50] Where it's kind of like, you know, we've shut you down twice, we know who you

[40:53] are. >> Yeah, right.

[40:54] » We're not getting >> Okay, got it. Got it. Got it. Yeah,

[40:56] okay. Okay. >> This This sounds like to me this is an

[41:00] education thing that we're talking about primarily

[41:04] and >> Of course that's fine and there are

[41:07] rules already you can take away people's licenses if they're not operating within

[41:10] code. >> Right. Right. Well, and and but

[41:14] » But we want to take this to the education side, which is

[41:18] whether it's HOA or whatever it is, but getting in front of the people and

[41:22] spreading the word out about here's the proper ways to maintain trees.

[41:26] » Right. And all of that. So they This seems like two completely different ads.

[41:31] Yeah, I call I call them carrots and sticks.

[41:33] » Yeah, but it seems I mean I would assume that we have sticks already, right?

[41:36] » Yeah. >> Cut trees illegally and it's a business

[41:39] dealing with it. They can shut >> Right.

[41:41] » Right. >> Right. So so through this UFMP process

[41:44] we may identify some nuances for that that that that you know, might might

[41:49] might improve it or it might just like like a like a

[41:53] simple action for the city might be just to make sure that if they contract out,

[41:57] they have to abide by all these, you know, if they have ISA certified

[42:01] arborists or some staff that they're honoring city code and and

[42:06] I'm not sure on that. >> The other thing to always remember in in

[42:09] Lakewood is we don't own any of our utilities other than storm water. So,

[42:13] anytime you see people out cutting along the right-of-way for utility purposes,

[42:18] it's likely hired by Puget Sound Energy, Tacoma Power, or Lake Whatcom Light and

[42:22] Power. So, it's a matter of one more layer of trying to get the message out

[42:26] to the utilities as well. >> Well,

[42:29] that's not Well, that's not quite the next slide, but we are going to We're

[42:33] going to touch on that utility cooperation relationship. And that And

[42:36] then And then that's exactly like I think of I I think of

[42:40] experiences with Mercer Island where they they said that the utilities, if

[42:44] you guys want to remove any trees, you're going to have to plant three

[42:47] trees. Um I I will We'll We'll get We'll We'll get

[42:51] over to the utilities here in a probably the next 10 minutes. Um

[42:56] cuz the next category was a what cooperation and and partnerships, which

[43:00] kind of came in out of order, so Peter.

[43:04] This is Explain it. And so the the the bottom

[43:07] It's the second page is the bottom and then I think it was regional

[43:10] collaboration, Peter. Um

[43:13] Cuz they you know So, this is where like Zeman might have an opinion or or Anne.

[43:18] Um you know, like like I I'm recognizing

[43:21] Washington DNR has ready grants available. They're very encouraging of

[43:26] uh of urban forest activities and and they

[43:28] have open grants for the city um or we know they have a bunch of you

[43:33] know, 200 or so dead trees from the inventory. Uh could potentially put

[43:37] together a grant package to get funding to cut those trees down and plant them.

[43:43] » I saw you in the meeting yesterday. >> Okay. So, I was there. Okay.

[43:46] Okay. All right. So, like you know, things are already happening.

[43:49] » And and on that topic, I brought up uh training opportunities because we need

[43:53] also provide that for free. So, that's another opportunity.

[43:56] » What kind of training? >> Uh like tree pruning to planting to

[44:00] maintenance, basic urban forestry principles.

[44:02] » And it's free? >> It's free. Yeah. The only requirement is

[44:06] and that's why I mentioned like having city staff are willing to is that

[44:09] there are members of the of like publicly funded agencies being able to

[44:13] come. So, it could be like the tree care workers and city staff. Um

[44:18] It's for yeah, get points on. All right. You guys are seeing this

[44:22] partners. Yeah, that's helpful. Yeah.

[44:25] There's WSU extension program that's going to be helpful.

[44:30] Um yeah, Pierce County. >> How many cities take advantage of that?

[44:33] » Oh, I would say we do like a training a month.

[44:38] Across the state? A few more, but yeah. And we do what we do and we don't. Like

[44:43] we would host it in Lakewood, but it would be available to anyone that could

[44:46] get there. Wow, big news. Do you have a residence?

[44:49] » Yeah. Again, another way that cultivates regional partners

[44:53] » Right. >> to to help keep everybody doing things

[44:58] to the same standards. Yeah.

[45:01] » you. >> I I think there should be an action

[45:03] plan. Let's do this right away. Let's look into this.

[45:06] » Yeah. >> Definitely. It's already available.

[45:09] » Okay. Well, yeah. >> the city parks and open it up to anybody

[45:14] else is that by you? >> Right. Right.

[45:17] » Um Yeah. And and I know a lot of other like

[45:20] municipalities in King County. I'm sorry. Pierce County. Will like have

[45:24] like joint contracts together that have been really helpful. So, another

[45:29] opportunity like if you are looking for to

[45:32] get a contract out there that's you could have a contract in the city of

[45:36] Tacoma. So, we have a lot of opportunities for

[45:39] regional collaboration, but

[45:43] » Is it typically the parks in the in those municipalities that are

[45:48] under it for the maintenance and municipalities?

[45:51] » Actually, it's it's a pretty wide range. I would say like we always will have

[45:56] like planners, um parks folks, and like public works.

[46:02] Public works tends to be our largest, yeah.

[46:05] » Yeah. Um, and and in terms of like I often think about watersheds cuz they

[46:09] tend to extend beyond city borders. Is that Is there Do you guys have any

[46:12] histories of conversations with the So what watersheds?

[46:16] » Chambers Clover Creek. >> Chambers cuz that extends to with with

[46:21] other just jurisdictions. >> Yeah, it crosses borders.

[46:23] » Okay. So it's Chambers and >> It's Chambers Clover Creek is the name.

[46:26] » There you go. >> Which one?

[46:28] » Which Chambers Clover Creek Watershed Council used to be

[46:31] » Yeah. Yeah. Okay. >> And then just for my clarity that So it

[46:34] starts in like I'm visualizing the map. >> Burk and Peterson

[46:38] » Peterson, yeah. >> And it doesn't really have any It goes

[46:42] to Steilacoom on one side and it goes out to

[46:45] Steilacoom about that part to Tacoma.

[46:50] » So it's So it's a shared watershed with Tacoma, I guess is what I'm fishing.

[46:54] » Yes, it's kind of >> All right, so it's kind

[46:55] » Then it goes through University Place and out.

[46:57] » Yeah. Yeah.

[47:00] » Is that as well? >> You plan

[47:02] » Chambers >> Yes, straight leech feed.

[47:05] » I want to say there's one word that's like 1%

[47:09] » Yeah. Yeah, Chambers Clover Creek is the big one. Yeah.

[47:12] » Right. >> Yeah, so there there may be nothing

[47:13] obvious out of this to to to the but but if this that that's that's what we're

[47:18] we're looking in that category of regional collaboration. Hey, you guys

[47:21] got a a stream that runs through your town.

[47:24] Um, let's look up river and see see if we're cooperating well to maintain

[47:28] quality. >> We would definitely We do give small

[47:31] grants for projects. >> Yes.

[47:33] » So that's definitely a part of with this.

[47:37] » That the city funds. >> The city We would go 360 degrees.

[47:42] » [laughter] >> But I mean it goes for the projects

[47:45] Yeah. Yeah. One. >> Yeah, too.

[47:48] Um >> But I would definitely be interested in

[47:52] negotiating agreements. >> The treats.

[47:54] » Yeah. >> Yeah.

[47:55] » Pulling out water. >> So the the So the Chambers Creek

[47:58] Watershed Collaborative list >> Now, when is it also a Chambers

[48:04] Coalition that's a nonprofit? >> Right. Yeah, my

[48:07] » And I think Chambers Creek was well mentioned in the U Dub report, but as

[48:12] you know, kind of

[48:16] does not does not have it. Okay. Um So, let's just take a look at the

[48:22] city cooperation, I think was >> [snorts]

[48:24] » was another um uh

[48:27] city departments cooperating. So, we we put this slide together again. I think I

[48:31] think, you know, our next meeting's really going to have more focus on the

[48:34] on on on how the city works, but um um you know, the city departments and

[48:39] agencies to cooperate to advance citywide urban forestry goals and

[48:42] objectives. Um And you know, we we we answered this as

[48:47] low uh just because we we recognize, you know, there's the planning department's

[48:51] working on the urban forest plan. The parks department does their thing. The

[48:55] public works department does their thing. Um a lot of I think I think what

[48:59] you're going to see in the plan is probably just that recommendation of

[49:02] forming some sort of leadership team in the city. Usually like I've heard it

[49:06] referred to as a green team, you know, where it's like one person from each of

[49:09] these departments routinely meets to look at urban forestry plan objectives

[49:13] and and what they're doing, how that fits in with the plan. Um so, um so, I'm

[49:19] not I'm not unless anybody has some some immediate

[49:22] thoughts on this, I'm going to I'm going to

[49:24] move past that one. >> Uh just one note uh Ian that planning

[49:28] and public works are all one department now.

[49:30] » Okay. >> So, um just for accuracy's sake. And um

[49:35] I am in that department and Ted is in the parks department.

[49:40] And parks covers facilities and operations.

[49:42] » All right. >> [snorts]

[49:48] » All right. All right. Uh

[49:52] So, next slide was I we have different

[49:56] agency cooperation. So we have mentioned Washington DNR. We've got

[50:00] We've got some recognition already that there's

[50:03] recreation and conservation offices that that work good um

[50:08] uh that that Pierce Pierce County Pierce Pierce

[50:11] Conservation District um and and these were identified in that

[50:16] EUDAP report as well and Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife may

[50:20] provide some funding sources. Um and and all

[50:25] all of these outside groups and stakeholders have the

[50:28] potential to help the city if the city knows what it's trying to do.

[50:33] All right. They may >> Sorry. I'm

[50:36] » We got something good. >> No, no, no.

[50:37] » Okay. Oh, yeah. You probably do anyway.

[50:41] » [laughter]

[50:47] » I'm just not to see Department of Ecology on there.

[50:50] » Department of Ecology? Yeah. Yeah, okay. >> Definitely missing.

[50:59] » Any examples of experiences with how the Department of Ecology has worked with

[51:04] with other cities or >> Yeah, they have like a Well, right now

[51:08] they're managing that the storm water municipal permit. So Oh, yes. Yeah, so

[51:13] they have required urban forestry requirements so something like that. So

[51:17] they do have their finger on the pulse of urban forestry and they do have

[51:21] requirements across the state. >> And to what

[51:26] » Should also have the Pierce County um weed coordinator.

[51:31] We got kept Pierce County weed boards with five commissioners funded with

[51:36] taxpayer dollars. And they have a weed coordinator who can

[51:41] speak to all of the invasive species means.

[51:47] » All right.

[51:49] Okay. >> It

[51:52] was regional collaboration that is so so we

[51:56] briefly touched on Pierce Conservation District. There's Tacoma Tree

[52:00] Foundation. I believe that you guys have had some taken some assistance from

[52:04] Tacoma Tree Foundation before, right? >> And the Pierce Conservation District

[52:08] both. Yep. >> So

[52:11] so that you know these can be resources planning opportunities and again I think

[52:15] I think this all circles back to to to the city just prioritizing and

[52:18] identifying projects that they can reach out to with these organizations. Anybody

[52:26] here can comment on how the Nisqually Indian Tribe has has engaged with the

[52:31] city in the past? >> It's well, we have relationships with

[52:35] various people in the tribe leadership and

[52:38] on staff for a variety of things, but in terms of this specific effort we're

[52:43] waiting for their key climate person to come back from vacation at the end of

[52:47] this month and then we're going to start conversation.

[52:50] » Okay.

[52:55] It's two as well yes sir.

[52:58] » One last thing on that last slide, the the Tree Steward program wherever that

[53:04] may need to go. Yes, they have a

[53:06] steward role that Tacoma Tree Foundation has the Tree Steward

[53:11] program where they can training um neighborhood

[53:16] captains essentially to steward tree planting, education, and planting

[53:21] projects. So >> Yeah.

[53:23] » That's a great >> They have a model

[53:25] or >> They have a model in place. Yeah, and

[53:27] it's a model developed by the Arbor Day Foundation. So

[53:30] » Right. Right.

[53:34] Arbor Day Foundation.

[53:38] Okay, well I don't expect anyone to read this thing.

[53:40] » Yeah, that makes sense. >> Thank you.

[53:43] Um >> All right. So,

[53:46] yes. So, there's So, there's regional collaboration powers and utility

[53:51] companies. Certainly, yeah, some of those some of

[53:54] those actions that you might you might engage with like we like we said it, you

[53:57] know, establishing maybe some requirements

[54:00] you know, for them to to be able to prune trees in the city that they they

[54:03] have operate some best practices as provided by the city, but it can also be

[54:08] more than that to be looking at and they can be a source for for trees for

[54:12] planting opportunities. Um you know, whether it's you know, it might be it

[54:16] might be targeted outreach to like Lake View Light and Power to say, "Okay,

[54:21] where where you know, overlay their their utility infrastructure with

[54:25] existing tree canopy GIS that we have and see where see what kind of trees are

[54:30] in conflict and then look at you know, over 20 or 30 years optimizing

[54:35] so, you've got trees that are that are low growing in the in the in the right

[54:39] of way and then maybe they're removing

[54:42] you know, a a a as an example maybe there's a large

[54:45] bigleaf maple that's been growing underneath the power lines and has to be

[54:49] pruned every 2 years which is gas, it's like all the all the environmental

[54:55] impacts of the action of having to prune that tree routinely. Instead, take the

[54:59] tree out, put in put in five trees there plus maybe five

[55:03] trees in another area to to help offset offset the um

[55:08] the environmental impacts, you know, I mean there's ways to to pitch it, but a

[55:13] lot of utilities do get on board and partner with cities because they know in

[55:17] the long run it's good it's goodwill and it's

[55:21] reduces the amount of liabilities that they carry if they don't get to that

[55:25] tree in time and starts a fire, you know, and then

[55:29] you know, and then just the act of actions of having to routinely maintain

[55:32] the tree. Um

[55:34] See that happen? >> I think the one they have their own tree

[55:38] committee and they do finally discussion was whether the

[55:43] utility should talk to the fire department

[55:46] tree protection board. And they don't. So, would it be possible

[55:52] to also make it a goal to have some old changes to be put in place something

[55:58] uh advise by the same utility board.

[56:03] Of course, I understand that if there was an emergency,

[56:06] if it was a tree fall or something or something else, that is

[56:11] with us having to really grow things to carry out something like that.

[56:17] And I'm telling you if we don't we'll change the city utilities and um

[56:24] offer a

[56:28] operate with city BMPs. Right? So, the city says, "This is This

[56:33] is our This is our approved approach to taking care of trees and the tree trees

[56:37] along our along these utility corridors that you guys have an easement." It

[56:40] often is a it is a putting it out here as a goal because it's a it's a it it

[56:44] may be a multi-year negotiation to to work out, but you know,

[56:48] in absence of a plan, there's not any that conversation may never even happen.

[56:54] Um Yeah.

[56:57] Um think about there. Um

[57:00] uh funder engagement. I think we we touched on that a little bit. So, that's

[57:05] you know, um again, this this is the idea that um uh

[57:10] you know, that that if we have um what what you have I wanted to ask a little

[57:14] bit about the the tree fund that that you guys have. Is it Is that that one

[57:20] that is that money is put into that fund from developers, right?

[57:25] » Money is put in as uh from a couple different sources. One is a fee in lieu.

[57:31] Another is civil penalties when there's violations of code.

[57:34] » Mhm. Um illegal tree removal or main or taking,

[57:39] you know, topping, that sort of thing. And then, uh there's one other category

[57:44] that's escaping me, but in any event, it's not a predictable source of

[57:48] funding. And so, while right now it's got a a pretty healthy balance, there's

[57:52] no guarantee it's going to stay that way over time. So, we had a project where

[57:56] there was, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars put in because of

[57:59] violations. That's not going to happen every year that you can predict. Um but,

[58:04] that um is there and it is intended to be a long-term standing resource for um

[58:10] at this point the urban forest program, but perhaps other parks things as well.

[58:14] And so, it's a matter of um being really clear in our budgeting when the city

[58:18] council takes it up, you know, how is this fund going to be used?

[58:21] » Yeah, okay. Well, now and I was going to ask that like how is the fund allowed is

[58:25] there restrictions on it? I know some cities they it only leads to you can put

[58:29] trees in the ground, but you can't spend it on anything else.

[58:32] » There is a list within our code that says it can be used for these things,

[58:36] but we haven't gotten to the next step of saying in the 2027-28 budget, it will

[58:40] be used for X, Y, and Z. >> Okay, yeah. So, so maybe this may not

[58:44] wind up in the plan explicitly, but I'm going to I want to make sure

[58:48] » Yeah, we are including some um line items in this budget proposal that's

[58:52] going in front of council this fall, um that's very vague because it's

[58:57] stemming from what you guys are doing right now. It's the um NEC task force

[59:01] recommendations. So, going forward in future budget items,

[59:05] it'll have to be more specific to start with, but we're able to as a starting

[59:10] point say there's this much money for NEC recommendations. We'll see if it

[59:15] stands.

[59:18] » There's a fundamental problem with the money in the tree fund

[59:22] because you said some of it comes from the best

[59:25] goals. The funds you put in the bill. And

[59:28] for example, they called it a mitigation fee for 114 trees. They also have a

[59:33] spray program. So, they collected 400 something dollars

[59:36] as it was a mitigation fee. So, the expectation is that it would be used to

[59:41] mitigate. But as far as I know, it wasn't used to mitigate. And so, I think

[59:45] really if something's supposed to be mitigated, it should be mitigated.

[59:50] » Like you've directly implied that the funds that are collected should ideally

[59:56] be used on site. >> I've seen it broken down to say

[59:59] » Not necessarily on site because you know, it also needs to have an area

[1:00:02] that's >> Sorry, yes. I was

[1:00:04] just going to say it's it will be ranked. So, it'll be like first option,

[1:00:08] mitigate on site. Second option, if you can't mitigate on site,

[1:00:12] within like the community. And then you keep going down and then being like the

[1:00:16] fee. So, So, there's yeah, there's options to

[1:00:20] to break that into the options. >> Those priority habitats and you know,

[1:00:24] that was in that law. So,

[1:00:27] that's it's in that law because it's law.

[1:00:30] » Right. >> They were average 1.7 inches.

[1:00:34] Which is then multiplied by 90 and you're trying to get to 100 and 50

[1:00:37] inches. So, that that just doesn't it cannot exist like that because that

[1:00:40] doesn't make any sense. >> Right. Right. And then and then and and

[1:00:44] there are there are those instances, right? Where they're they're paying into

[1:00:46] a mitigation fund, but if it's not getting used, then it's

[1:00:51] like it's not actually mitigating. Like trees aren't trees aren't getting

[1:00:55] planted or >> But but somebody the city council

[1:00:59] meeting one of the council members said, "Oh, there's this

[1:01:02] chunk of money you can use it to set up the

[1:01:05] urban tree urban forestry program."

[1:01:07] Which is not mitigation for the 1400s, right? I mean, if you're buying

[1:01:12] a body or urban urban is not mitigation. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[1:01:17] Yeah. No, I I I think that's a fair point and uh

[1:01:21] I know it it the old is it Emma? Yeah. >> Sorry. I have to say

[1:01:24] » now. >> I just want to add in terms of other

[1:01:28] funders there was a part of saying for at least yesterday from the

[1:01:33] national urban and community forestry program. So there are there is some

[1:01:37] funding opportunities on the national level. Now we literally just got them

[1:01:40] yesterday so >> So it was the

[1:01:42] the urban department or

[1:01:44] » Yeah with the with the foresters youth foresters.

[1:01:47] » Yeah they have a national urban and community forestry

[1:01:49] program. >> So is this committee eventually going to

[1:01:53] decide do we need to recommend an urban forester to take on a

[1:01:58] lot of this work or are we going to say this we're going to

[1:02:01] be existing staff or >> I think you are. Yeah I think you're

[1:02:04] going to be recommending an urban forester and we're going to have the CRG

[1:02:08] we're going to help articulate the value and the rationale behind it.

[1:02:12] Uh but but right now right now that you know if you pass this plan and you don't

[1:02:16] have any any person taking the lead role in

[1:02:22] shepherding the plan or the the then it will it goes nowhere.

[1:02:26] Unless you want to take on even more work to right? You know that's that's

[1:02:30] often what happens is you get the plan drafted and then then an existing

[1:02:34] employee has to has to shepherd it and it it just becomes something on the pile

[1:02:38] with the other responsibilities. So it's definitely something to watch

[1:02:42] out for. Um yeah I'm I'm going to put this on here

[1:02:46] identifying shovel ready projects. I think I mean I think that's going to be

[1:02:50] a key for the for the city and you know a lot like like River City has already

[1:02:57] done a lot of the work they they know you know what's going on with the with

[1:03:00] the the natural areas where they where there's like they prioritize the issues

[1:03:04] in natural areas. They prioritize the the street tree inventory. It's time to

[1:03:09] start doing something. They know where these planting spaces so building the

[1:03:12] projects so that when the grant funds like the same as presented you know come

[1:03:16] available it's very quick to say, "Okay, we've got one here." Maybe there should

[1:03:20] be, you know, uh and then some sort of a some sort of like a short-term action

[1:03:24] for the city in in the plan that we identify and the the

[1:03:28] five or 10 eligible projects that that all they need is the is the funding that

[1:03:32] we might Wow.

[1:03:35] » I'm going to be timekeeper here. You got 15 minutes.

[1:03:37] » 15 minutes, okay. And I think I mean, I think we're we're kind of going through

[1:03:40] the the the um the slides pretty well here. Public

[1:03:45] awareness. So, this category was was identified as that, you know, the

[1:03:49] general public understands the benefits trees and advocates the role and

[1:03:53] importance of the urban forest. Um we graded it as low just because of uh

[1:03:59] um the you know, the the the current public perception surveys, um you know,

[1:04:04] was that was people were, you know, concerned about urban forestry because

[1:04:08] of smoke from wildfires and excessive heat. So, you know, urban heat island.

[1:04:12] Um and you know, but hopefully, you know, I I believe

[1:04:16] that there's more. There's more There's more value to trees

[1:04:19] than to it and and and if we want to get into a high-performing relationship with

[1:04:23] the community, uh you want to have trees seen as as valuable infrastructure and

[1:04:28] vital to community's well-being. The urban forest should be recognized

[1:04:32] for the unique environmental, economic, and social services it provides the

[1:04:35] city. So, this I mean, this comes back to again just the value of the city

[1:04:38] providing some educational resources, building up the neighborhood stewards,

[1:04:43] you know, creating creating that chorus of voices um that that, you know,

[1:04:48] puts trees puts trees as as a as a as a priority. So, you you know, say put the

[1:04:53] right trees in the right place. If that that if that person who wants to plant a

[1:04:57] memorial tree comes to the city, they should say, "Yeah, absolutely. We know

[1:05:01] exactly where to go. This person you talk to. Here's the pro- you know, let

[1:05:05] us know what property. Sure that fits in with our management plan by adding 50

[1:05:08] trees there." I keep looking at you cuz you're not you're We've got eye contact

[1:05:11] and you're nodding. I apologize. It's all right. Okay.

[1:05:14] They're all >> [laughter]

[1:05:16] » So I just had a question for realtor. Um

[1:05:21] I want to buy a lot see a home that's been, you know, flipped or going to flip

[1:05:24] it. And it's it's those the house looks beautiful. They haven't really put any

[1:05:29] trees in the trees grow pretty [clears throat] easily here. And is that

[1:05:33] something that a realtor could could

[1:05:37] » Yeah, we're talking with actually Pierce County Conservation District

[1:05:41] Dana over there that runs that and hopefully going to launch a program on

[1:05:46] you think about this fall but maybe by this spring to get ahead of their nest.

[1:05:50] So you what's that every year that you will plant a tree and

[1:05:53] not to get away with >> Get away, yeah.

[1:05:55] » Yeah, um we want to do a year-round program with

[1:05:58] them. So uh I think they started a pilot which is

[1:06:02] like because you're aging and go and buy you hey, here's a closing

[1:06:06] gift. >> Right.

[1:06:08] » Buy you some trees and plant them something like that. That's what we're

[1:06:10] trying to work with the local with them to forestry foundation also

[1:06:14] on creating some stuff like that. >> Yeah, cuz yeah, exactly like as an

[1:06:18] investor maybe I buy a home and do all that remodel and flip it and it's just a

[1:06:22] matter of a right phone call to the right person and that will also deliver

[1:06:25] a tree to the yard that will enhance the landscape.

[1:06:27] » Yeah, that's also I mean you can construct too. There's always

[1:06:30] opportunities to plant more of the plants like but yeah, that's so that's

[1:06:33] the thing we're discussing right now. >> Good.

[1:06:35] » Yeah. >> Right.

[1:06:36] » Um we have a question online Ian. Look at here.

[1:06:41] And >> Hi, it's Melissa with Pierce

[1:06:42] Conservation District and I was just wondering who was talking because I

[1:06:47] I manage all of our urban tree programs and I'm not aware of the that program

[1:06:51] that you were describing. So I just want to

[1:06:52] » No, I we're we're talking this is Shawn Martin at the Realtor Association coming

[1:06:56] for scan of those are something that we had Dana come in

[1:06:59] a few months ago through our yeah, through our government affairs

[1:07:03] committee and so this is something that we're

[1:07:07] ongoing discussion with her about, but yeah, it's not officially done yet. Uh

[1:07:11] we're This is I think October is what she said. They'd come back in October

[1:07:15] and let's see if we can figure it out then.

[1:07:19] » Okay. I might end up being in that meeting

[1:07:21] with you. >> Yeah, no, it sounds like you should be.

[1:07:25] » Yeah, okay. [clears throat] Thank you. Thanks, Alyssa.

[1:07:29] » Okay, so yeah, we're we're we're coming down to the end of the meeting here and

[1:07:32] you know, I don't I don't have a hard stop, but I know we

[1:07:35] you know, to be respectful of others' time kind of kind of need to come to

[1:07:38] some sort of wrap. Um

[1:07:41] Uh so the the goals, objectives, and actions

[1:07:44] that you're seeing here on the screen, um these these again this sort of come

[1:07:48] from me as kind of seeding seeding ideas with you guys in absence of any other

[1:07:53] ideas. But you guys are giving me a lot up here on the board. Um but

[1:07:58] um I was saying just based on our research so far um that maybe we could

[1:08:02] um provide an annual or or that the that

[1:08:05] the city as an action would provide annual urban forestry program updates.

[1:08:09] Park to planning, park sports, and youth councils in you know, as part of

[1:08:13] community meetings. Um that

[1:08:16] that they include urban forestry questions in

[1:08:19] routine public surveys. Um you know, that's you know, again like

[1:08:23] like any kind of standard, you know, gauging the gauging the opinions of the

[1:08:27] community, there should be some questions in there. Um

[1:08:30] uh constructing a volunteer system. I think we've we've started leaning

[1:08:33] towards that. Um and and any idea of uh of steward uh

[1:08:38] stewardship. Um neighborhood stewards. Uh you know, a a

[1:08:43] volunteer coordinator. I think we've already we already have that existing.

[1:08:47] Um maybe they'll need some support, you know, something like that. But but these

[1:08:50] are all short-term actions. Um and and an approved tree company

[1:08:54] registry. That may or may not last and all as a as a as a short-term action.

[1:08:59] It's kind of like it It cost any money to uh sort of create it, but it might be

[1:09:03] it might be something that programmatically

[1:09:06] doesn't doesn't doesn't move very fast politically. Um

[1:09:11] Uh and the operational objectives, so things that that may need a budget

[1:09:15] eventually. Um you know, so the align UFMP objectives

[1:09:19] with regional goals. Um and and and I I think you you I know um

[1:09:26] you can hear me on the call. You're

[1:09:29] » Can you hear me again? >> Yeah, you're working as a county to

[1:09:32] develop an urban forest management plan, right? Um

[1:09:35] you know, >> Yes, that's absolutely correct. And

[1:09:41] as part of that we're going to be looking at our tree code and trying to

[1:09:46] bring forward a package of codes that municipalities in our county

[1:09:52] can have to take a look at to see if they may want to adopt them or not.

[1:09:57] » Okay. Yeah, so so the county the county has

[1:10:01] some sport services in in in development.

[1:10:05] Um Uh

[1:10:07] engaging the green industry, we talked about that. Um

[1:10:11] building a volunteer stewardship program,

[1:10:13] hosting workshops in private tree care from owners. So I

[1:10:17] I mean I I don't know if it fell but we we're kind of arriving at the similar

[1:10:20] conclusions through this conversation as well.

[1:10:23] Um and then in a long-term goals um you

[1:10:26] know, like like by 2050, you know, definitely I think

[1:10:30] the the top item would be strong engagement with

[1:10:34] neighborhood associations and community associations.

[1:10:37] Um so you know, so or like that neighborhood associations are conducting

[1:10:43] tree planting projects annually. Every neighborhood association in the county

[1:10:46] every year, they're going to get a handful of trees and then we're going to

[1:10:49] put them in the ground and we have a system in place to do it. You know, that

[1:10:53] would that would be a nice like stretch goal for this urban forest management

[1:10:56] plan. It doesn't happen right away, but over time would be

[1:11:00] creative a high-performing urban forest program in the city.

[1:11:03] Um I don't know if anything anything on

[1:11:06] here catches you as objectionable, anything that I've set up here and you

[1:11:10] know the the the immediately problematic. Okay. Um

[1:11:14] » I just question on goals. I think just uh

[1:11:17] how is this being What are we doing with this? Like how

[1:11:20] official are these things? Is this like you're going to work together with staff

[1:11:23] and we're going to bring in shop and that here? Like what is that? Like

[1:11:26] » Yeah, yeah. So I was thinking about it cuz he Tiffany proposed that one more

[1:11:29] urban forest task force meeting in October, right?

[1:11:33] Yeah, I I I got I got >> Okay, yes. Yes.

[1:11:35] » I sent you calendar invites. You got one, right? And you know, and and and

[1:11:38] and that's I was I exactly wasn't sure I know we're going to draft up the goals

[1:11:43] and share them with the city and I think she's going to be able to distribute

[1:11:46] them to you guys, but I think I've I've you know,

[1:11:49] adapting to this project as we go. I'm thinking probably would make sense that

[1:11:53] we have that we utilize that meeting as a way to bring all of these three

[1:11:57] conversations together. So so at that point I'd make more of a presentation um

[1:12:02] that that says well, these are the goal These are the These are the goals and

[1:12:04] objectives objectives and actions for the plan that that that we've we've kind

[1:12:09] of come to as a group and at that point you guys can you know, chime in with you

[1:12:13] know, make some but that way that way they they they're coming not just not

[1:12:17] just from me as the as the hired consultant and they're not just coming

[1:12:20] from the city, they're coming from a cooperative collaborative group so to

[1:12:24] speak with the task input. But that that made sense to you. I think we're going

[1:12:27] to keep going with that meeting in the city.

[1:12:30] Good good question. >> It's like

[1:12:32] » And then I did kind of struggle with that, you know, I I want I want to get

[1:12:34] everybody um you know, like it like again as as we're coming to a wrap on

[1:12:39] this meeting, if there if there are ideas that come to you after this

[1:12:43] meeting, don't hesitate to email them through through Tiffany and she'll

[1:12:47] forward them on to us. We'll try to find a way to to consolidate all of that, but

[1:12:50] you know, like, I I'm coming at you with a lot of

[1:12:54] different ideas and information. So, I know, you might have a 2:00 a.m.

[1:12:59] flash of inspiration. >> Write it down, send it over. What we

[1:13:01] were talking about was students in schools.

[1:13:04] » Students in schools. >> So, the city reaching into

[1:13:07] » Right, right. >> students in schools.

[1:13:09] » Students in schools. >> That's a good point.

[1:13:11] » I'm going to I'm just going to put it down here as

[1:13:13] » K-12 outreach.

[1:13:16] » Well, and because there are students in schools, they are, you know, a lot of

[1:13:19] the school properties are not necessarily city properties, but they

[1:13:23] are tree planting opportunities and that they're great places, you know, and then

[1:13:26] that's the that's the the the scout troop,

[1:13:30] you know, planting trees or the or as a learning project at a school can can

[1:13:34] work on trees. >> They take a tree home and then they

[1:13:37] plant it in the ground. >> Take a tree home to your parents and

[1:13:39] then the parents go, "What the heck do I do with this?" And they go online to the

[1:13:42] city's website and they see, "Oh, okay, I see I can plant the tree. This is the

[1:13:46] best I don't plant this tree under my power lines. Plant it in the backyard, 5

[1:13:50] ft away from my house so I don't react to the insurance company's fire

[1:13:54] wise directives. I mean, like it's it is kind of, you know,

[1:13:58] forestries complicated. >> But even just teaching basic

[1:14:01] » Yeah. >> tree care.

[1:14:03] » Yeah. >> Take a tree to grow and

[1:14:05] » Yeah, yeah. Students in schools, so I think I mean, that absolutely we'll want

[1:14:08] to make sure they're getting some recognition

[1:14:12] as an opportunity. Um so yeah, so our next session preview,

[1:14:16] um so this is this is where we'll we'll

[1:14:17] we'll we'll we'll we'll go into what I think might

[1:14:20] be sort of the the the

[1:14:23] Well, I I think it's going to be a fun conversation for sure, um because we're

[1:14:27] going to look at, you know, we're

[1:14:30] putting Tiffany and Ted on the hot seat to represent the city and we're going to

[1:14:34] we're going to talk about all the things the city can do and what they may be

[1:14:37] able to do and what they Oh my gosh, series will come.

[1:14:41] » [laughter] >> Um okay.

[1:14:45] Uh so yeah, so we'll we'll talk about we'll

[1:14:47] we'll we'll talk about like future, you know, so they've already had a canopy

[1:14:50] assessment but there's, you know, routine canopy assessments.

[1:14:54] Um, management plans should be updated routinely but there but, you know, like

[1:14:59] um, developing, you know, local like specific park specific management plans.

[1:15:04] These are going to be, you know, like a five-year basis species management

[1:15:06] plans. Those are the kind of things that would be a priority for a city.

[1:15:10] Um, definitely setting up programs to

[1:15:12] maintain the public trees. Um, and and informally, like

[1:15:16] I think there, you know, there's there might be informal tree care going on in

[1:15:19] the city because they identify an issue, they grab the crew that they have to to

[1:15:23] solve it and but it's it's reactive. And when when and and this program should

[1:15:27] move towards something proactive proactive that's well funded.

[1:15:32] So we'll talk about tree protecting policies,

[1:15:35] um, city staffing and equipment, um, But it it it would be funding kind of

[1:15:41] comes in again, you know, they they they believe they the conversations believe

[1:15:44] through this and faith for this and so some of it might come from, uh,

[1:15:48] you know, a long-term city initiatives that that that's

[1:15:52] got to be improved. Things like that. Um, disaster preparedness that that

[1:15:56] that's the topic of the week, you know, the city should be taking a good look at

[1:16:01] but I I'm often on conversations, you know, about wildland fire wildland urban

[1:16:06] interface fires or emergency corridors. So making sure that

[1:16:12] you're you know, where you where the ambulance is expected to run

[1:16:15] in the event of emergency don't have existing hazardous trees. So maybe

[1:16:19] you're taking you're doing an extra extra level of care on certain priority

[1:16:22] streets, make sure that they aren't blocked in the event of an emergency

[1:16:26] when like a major wind event. Um, other than that, uh, yeah, so

[1:16:32] resilience communication, these are all topics we're going to

[1:16:34] do a deeper dive in on the next session and we have four minutes for questions

[1:16:39] and then we'll talk. But I again, I thank you. Thank you for attending and

[1:16:45] giving your thoughts and all this. It's Hopefully you'll look back 50 years from

[1:16:50] now and say, I hope this city will become something.

[1:16:54] » A couple of things if I could. First of all, again, apologies for lunch. It

[1:16:58] should have happened and didn't. Okay, yeah, please take stuff with you.

[1:17:03] But also there is actually a fall tree sale that the city is working with

[1:17:08] Pierce Conservation District about. So I'll send you all information. Hopefully

[1:17:12] you can spread the word. That's going on right now and then

[1:17:15] people will be able to pick up trees. Uh I want to say truck and tractor day,

[1:17:20] which is in October sometime. So anyway, I'll get you that information online. I

[1:17:25] sent you over the last 24 36 hours a couple of invitations for upcoming

[1:17:29] meetings. So hopefully that came to you okay. Please let me know if you have

[1:17:32] questions. And I'll just ask also online anything Karen or Eleanor you guys want

[1:17:39] to add?

[1:17:44] » No, this was wonderful. Thank you guys so much.

[1:17:46] » Okay, great. >> Great conversation.

[1:17:50] » Thanks Karen. All right, turning it back to you again.

[1:17:52] » Okay, well, I think that's the end and

[1:17:55] without any further objection we'll adjourn the meeting and

[1:17:59] look forward to the next one and all of you guys too.

8/13/26 NECC Urban Forestry Task Force Meeting

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