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[0:01]
Good afternoon. Welcome to the Mesa City
Council meeting for August 17, 2026.
[0:07]
Mayor Freeman is out of town and is
excused as is council member Adams who
[0:12]
is not able to attend. Uh we'll start
our meeting uh with a moment of silence
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uh followed by the pledge of allegiance
which will be given by Jackson Jones
[0:24]
from Troop 54. Would you all stand for a
moment of silence, please?
[0:43]
Thank you, Jackson.
[0:50]
Please join me in the pledge of
allegiance.
[0:54]
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
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republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[1:06]
justice for all.
>> Well done. Thank you.
[1:14]
All right. Before we go on to the
consent agenda, Miss Mosley, could you
[1:18]
say the names of the three people that
will be speaking under the items from
[1:22]
citizens present?
>> Sure. After running the randomizer, I
[1:25]
have listed number one will be Jason
Smithson, number two will be Noah James
[1:30]
Markham, and number three will be be
Leanne McKelby.
[1:34]
» Leanne
>> McKelby
[1:43]
and Jason Smithson, right? I didn't see
him out there, but I'm sure he's here.
[1:49]
All right.
[1:53]
So, why don't we do this? We're going to
go on to awards and recognition because
[1:57]
I think we have one, Mr. Butler.
>> Okay, this one might be kind of exciting
[2:03]
for uh all of us uh especially me. So,
the next item in the agenda is to
[2:08]
recognize recent awards and
announcements.
[2:11]
And tonight I am very excited to sh to
share an extraordinary accomplishment by
[2:17]
our library department. The Mesa Gateway
Library, our newest branch library,
[2:23]
first in over 30 years, received a 2026
[2:29]
James Bennett Public Library of the Year
award. And this is a global recognition
[2:35]
and something for all of us to be proud
of. It's seems like just yesterday in
[2:39]
December that this library opened in
such an unique space. Uh one of the best
[2:44]
libraries in
>> in Mesa, don't you think?
[2:49]
» My colleague over here is a little
jealous.
[2:52]
» Uh you know, as council member
representing the district, obviously you
[2:56]
can tell uh there there's a little
rivalry going on, but it's it's
[3:01]
something truly uh unbelievable. For 20
years really, we've been asking in
[3:06]
Southeast Mesa for a library and
probably for you and your department and
[3:11]
everybody involved in this to knock it
on out of the ballpark the way you did
[3:16]
uh to to receive this kind of
recognition is is really something
[3:21]
special. Gateway was made possible u by
the support of voters. This was part of
[3:27]
a GI bond. We tell you all the time,
what city do you want to live in? Well,
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these are your opportunities to get
involved and for those folks who
[3:36]
supported the library and continue to do
so, uh we extend our grateful
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appreciation because this is the kind of
community asset that that we will be
[3:48]
able to appreciate for so many decades
to come. This honor also reflects the
[3:54]
leadership, collaboration, and
innovative thinking of our library
[3:58]
staff, our volunteers. Thank you so much
to all of our volunteers and the board
[4:03]
members of the library who donate their
time uh to make these these a reality.
[4:12]
Their work has made Mesa Libraries truly
a world-class resource for families
[4:15]
throughout our city. Paulie Bennett, our
library director over here in the front
[4:20]
row and members of her team were on hand
to accept the award on Mesa's behalf.
[4:25]
I'd like to invite Paulie to the podium
to tell us more about that experience.
[4:30]
After that, we'll join her down below
for a group photo. Paulie,
[4:36]
good evening, Vice Mayor and Council.
Um, it's an honor to be here tonight to
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uh receive this recognition for the
Gateway Library. It's still a little bit
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surreal having accepted this um on
behalf of Mesa with libraries around the
[4:53]
world recognizing the design. So, I'm
very proud proud for um being a part of
[4:58]
team Mesa and for what we've been able
to offer for our residents. Um the award
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recognizes innovative and thoughtful
community centered design and vice mayor
[5:10]
as you mentioned that's something that
our residents really u took to heart
[5:14]
when we started asking questions about
what what do you dream of when you think
[5:18]
of a new library in Mesa and from the
beginning our vision was we really
[5:22]
wanted to exceed the expectations for
our community of what a traditional
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library might offer. We wanted it to be
more of a transformational experience
[5:32]
and that was from um just the way that
we collaborated with our community
[5:39]
partners with all of our city
stakeholders. We really wanted to think
[5:43]
outside of the box and that was
recognized by LAA and the James Bennett
[5:47]
jury. One of the things that I kept
hearing from jury members and some of
[5:52]
the libraries that were recognized was
how um well beautiful and stunning the
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library facility is itself, but how it
encouraged those connections in the
[6:03]
community, connections with one another,
connections to learning and curiosity,
[6:08]
and how it integrated so nicely into the
setting and really became the heart of
[6:12]
the community. And we're already seeing
the impact for the city's investment.
[6:16]
We've seen over 170,000 people come
through Gateway's door since we opened
[6:22]
in December and that's about 31% more
in-house visitors across our library
[6:30]
system in this past year. So, we've
really had a fa fantastic turnout. We've
[6:36]
had such a warm reception from our
community and it has created this sense
[6:40]
of belonging and sense of place. Another
um thing I do want to mention as far as
[6:45]
how it's being used is we've seen over
48% of program attendance increase
[6:51]
across our library system. And that
really emphasizes how much of a
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community hub that the library is. And
lastly, beyond the numbers, we're
[7:00]
hearing how it's being used and how much
people enjoy using this new facility.
[7:04]
Whether it's daily, we have kids who are
asking their parents to come every day
[7:08]
after school, which is a feat in and of
itself. And also, we have people who
[7:14]
just make it part of their routine. Um,
we have new community partnerships that
[7:20]
are being formed because of this space.
It's allowed us that opportunity. And of
[7:24]
course, we're getting attention in Mesa
and now beyond Mesa. So, it's really a
[7:29]
proud moment for us. And even more so,
it's great to be able to shine a light
[7:33]
on the great things that are happening
in Mesa. Further shine a light. We're
[7:38]
proud of what we've been able to do
working with our residents and our
[7:42]
library staff and our city partners,
city council, but really it's a platform
[7:47]
to show what a great city Mesa is to
visit, live in, and work in. So, we
[7:52]
appreciate it. Thank you.
>> And it has such unique features as maker
[7:56]
spaces, not just books. 21st century
library has maker spaces. It has a
[8:02]
sensory room uh room for uh our folks
with autism. So, we're sensitive to
[8:09]
that. Uh the garden that's out there and
lessons in water use. So, it's really
[8:15]
taken a library from what what we
thought about you got to be quiet in a
[8:20]
library to yeah, let's go ahead and
create something that's really new and
[8:24]
unique. So, I really appreciate that
forward thinking.
[8:26]
» Thank you. We were hoping that we
created the library of the future and
[8:30]
Romy the robot is actually doing more
now. So next time you come to visit
[8:34]
Romy, he has a few more things he can
do. Few more work or security or
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» not yet.
>> That thing creeps me out. All right, why
[8:44]
don't we take a picture, Mr. City
Manager?
[9:08]
Did you notice?
>> I did. [laughter]
[9:19]
Squish a little bit.
[9:34]
» Jody's excited.
[9:42]
» [applause]
[10:03]
» All right. Now, on to the consent
agenda. Mr. Christopher, let's see if
[10:07]
you can top that.
We do have a few items off of consent.
[10:14]
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that looks
like 4 E.
[10:17]
» Yep.
>> 4 H.
[10:19]
» Yep.
>> 4 M,
[10:23]
» 5B,
and 5 C. Is that what you have?
[10:26]
» That's what I've got.
>> Okay. And then there for a speaker,
[10:29]
there's also 7 A and 8A, but those are
not on consent.
[10:33]
» Mr. Christopher.
>> Good evening, Vice Mayor, council
[10:35]
members. These are the items on the
consent agenda. All items listed with an
[10:38]
asterisk will be considered as a group
by the city council and will be enacted
[10:42]
with one motion. There will be no
separate discussion unless a council
[10:44]
member or citizen request in which event
the item will be removed from the
[10:47]
consent agenda and considered as a
separate item. Item two, approval of
[10:52]
minutes of previous meetings is written.
Item 3 A, act on liquor license
[10:55]
application for the drink all 235 North
Country Club Drive. Item 3 B, act on
[11:00]
liquor license application for Church
Craft Coffee and Cocktails, 127 West
[11:04]
Pepper Place. Item 3 C, act on liquor
license for Lati Latiandida,
[11:10]
Colombana, 456 West Main Street. Item 3
D, act on a liquor license application
[11:15]
for Tempo by Hilton Galloway Park and
Homewood Suites, 5057 South Power Road.
[11:20]
Item 3 E, act on liquor license
application for Crazy Cajun Seafood in
[11:24]
Habachi, 655 East Southern Avenue. Item
3 F, act on liquor license application
[11:29]
for Lenny's Craft Burger, 4525 South
Power Road. Item 4 A, approving
[11:34]
three-year term contract with two-year
renewal options for electric substation
[11:37]
infrastructure work for the energy
resources department. Item 4 B,
[11:41]
approving three-year term contract with
two-year renewal options for ball valves
[11:44]
for the materials and supply warehouse
for the energy resources department.
[11:47]
Item 4 C, approving three-year term
contract with two-year renewal options
[11:51]
for gas meters for the materials and
supply warehouse for the energy
[11:54]
resources department. Item 4 D,
approving dollar limit increase to the
[11:58]
cooperative use term contract for
industrial plumbing supplies for the
[12:01]
water resources and facilities
management departments. Item 4 E has
[12:05]
been removed from the consent agenda.
Item 4F, approving three-year term
[12:09]
contract with two-year renewal options
for roofing, repair, and installation
[12:12]
services for the facilities management
department. Item 4G, approving contract
[12:16]
to purchase one liquid chromatograph
tandem mass spectrometry instrument for
[12:20]
the public safety support department.
This is funded by the governor's office
[12:23]
of highway safety. Item 4H has been
removed from the consent agenda. Item 4
[12:28]
I, approving three-year term contract
with two-year renewal options for
[12:31]
Striker Lewis 3 mechanical CPR devices
for the Mesa Fire and Medical
[12:36]
Department. This is partially funded by
a FEMA AFG grant. Item 4J, approving
[12:41]
10-month use of a cooperative term
contract with a one-year renewal option
[12:44]
for the purchase of fire station alert
equipment, software, and support for the
[12:48]
Department of Innovation and Technology
and the Mesa Fire Medical Department.
[12:51]
Item 4K, approving dollar limit increase
to the state of Arizona cooperative
[12:55]
contract for capital expenditure
agreement for Motorola Systems upgrade 2
[12:59]
for the Topaz Regional Wireless
Cooperative as requested by the
[13:02]
Department of Innovation and Technology.
Item 4L, approving three-year term
[13:06]
contract for Tungsten Total Agility
Document Scanning Platform for the
[13:10]
Department of Innovation and Technology.
Item 4 M's been removed from the consent
[13:15]
agenda. Item 5A, approving resolution to
enter into an agreement for management
[13:18]
and operations services with Legends
Global to manage, operate, and market
[13:23]
the Mesa Convention Center and Mesa
Amphitheater. Items 5B and 5C have been
[13:28]
removed from the consent agenda. Item
5D, approving a resolution enter into an
[13:32]
intergovernmental agreement with the
regional public transportation authority
[13:35]
for design and construction management
of improvements to existing bus stops at
[13:39]
various locations in Mesa. part of the
projects funded by a federal grant and
[13:43]
by transit advertising revenue. Item 6A,
introduction of ordinance amending
[13:47]
sections 10-4-2 and 10-4-3 of the Mesa
City Code to establish a continuous
[13:53]
speed limit of 45 miles per hour on
Ellsworth Road from the north city
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limits to the south city limits by
modifying the Ellsworth Road speed limit
[14:01]
between Elliot Road and the South City
limit. Vice Mayor and council members,
[14:05]
these are the items on the consent
agenda.
[14:09]
» Thank you, Mr. Christopher. You made it
competitive
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for Do we have any other items to be
removed?
[14:16]
» No other items.
>> Any council have any comments,
[14:20]
questions? All right. With that, I do
have a a statement from the mayor on
[14:25]
item 5A that he would like read into the
record. So, I'll do that. Uh the mayor's
[14:31]
statements. So item 5A, so everyone
knows, a resolution approving and
[14:36]
authorizing the city manager to enter
into an agreement for management and
[14:41]
operations with Legends Global for the
Convention Center uh to manage, operate,
[14:46]
market Mesa Convention Center and
Amphitheater. That is on the consent
[14:50]
agenda. And the mayor's statement is,
"I'm sorry I could not be at tonight's
[14:53]
council meeting, but I want to express
my appreciation to everyone who has
[14:57]
helped bring us to this important moment
for the Mesa Convention Center and
[15:02]
Amphitheater. Since taking office of
mayor, I have been passionate about
[15:07]
finding a path forward for these
important community assets. Early on, I
[15:12]
began conversations with the city
manager, Scott Butler, about how we
[15:17]
could reinvest in these facilities,
strengthen their future, and explore a
[15:22]
public private partnership that could
bring new opportunities to downtown Mesa
[15:26]
while protecting the interests of our
taxpayers. Tonight's action represents
[15:31]
an important step toward that vision.
The Mesa Amphitheater is one of our
[15:36]
city's jewels and together with the
convention center. It has been a
[15:40]
tremendous potential. I believe this new
direction will help us build on that
[15:45]
legacy, bring renewed energy and
investment to these facilities and
[15:50]
contribute
to an even stronger and more vibrant
[15:54]
downtown Mesa. I also want to thank the
employees of the convention center and
[15:59]
amphitheater for their service and
dedication to our community. I'm excited
[16:03]
about what lies ahead and confident in
the future of these important Mesa
[16:08]
destinations. Thank you, Mayor Mark
Freeman. So, with that, is there a
[16:16]
motion on the consent agenda?
Have a motion from council member
[16:22]
Goforth, a second from council member
Heredia. Please vote.
[16:27]
Motion passes
five to nothing with the mayor and
[16:31]
council member uh Adams excused.
All right.
[16:40]
So, let's go on.
[16:46]
[sighs]
Let's go to the items that are uh not on
[16:49]
the consent agenda. I guess item 4E.
Noah, I think you pulled this one. Let
[16:56]
me read it.
Yeah. Is a 15-month use of a cooperative
[17:01]
term contract with one one-year renewal
option for facility maintenance, repair,
[17:07]
and operations uh for water resources
department. Noah, you have three.
[17:12]
» Um aloha, vice mayor, and to the rest of
the city council. Um, I really do like
[17:17]
this one and I haven't been here in a
while. So, um, because I've been
[17:20]
fighting people that have been not even
talking about water. They've been
[17:24]
talking about free Palestine instead.
But, um, yeah. So, let's just talk about
[17:29]
this. This is great. We need the water
here in um, Arizona and this is a very
[17:35]
big concern and so I'm so thankful for
the people that are taking care of our
[17:39]
water in Mesa and Arizona. So, thank
you. Please approve this. Thank you.
[17:44]
» All right. Thank you, Noah.
With that, any council members wish to
[17:48]
speak on this item? I'll take a motion
on item 4E, 15month use of a cooperative
[17:56]
term contract. I have a motion from
council member Taylor, a second from
[18:01]
council member Duff. Please vote.
[18:05]
Five eyes, no A's, with two absent. All
right. What was next? 4 H.
[18:12]
Mr. Davis 4
was the use of a cooperative contract
[18:17]
for the purchase of an E1 Cyclone custom
cab utility truck replacement for the
[18:22]
fire and medical department.
Good evening, honorable vice mayor and
[18:28]
city council members. I have a couple of
questions about this issue. Number one
[18:32]
is how often is this particular unit
used and what is the current annual
[18:39]
costs of maintenance of this equipment?
Okay,
[18:44]
» just those two.
>> Just those two questions.
[18:46]
» Okay, great. We have someone from the
fire department, Mr. Butler.
[18:50]
» We do. We have staff from M fire and
medical that can speak to this that are
[18:55]
making Jason's making his way up right
now. Yeah.
[18:58]
» And perhaps we'll start with a very
brief overview of what this utility
[19:01]
truck does on a fire ground.
[19:12]
Vice Mayor, council members, the utility
truck is used for a lot of the bigger
[19:17]
major scenes. It provides light and air
to be able to refill SCBAs for a
[19:23]
continuous scene. Um, that's
predominantly what that thing's used
[19:26]
for. In in terms of frequency, um, I I
don't really have any numbers um in
[19:34]
regards on how it is, but I do know in
the summertime they do tend to get used
[19:38]
a lot.
Yeah, as far as the uh annual
[19:42]
maintenance thing, um I can actually get
to that. Um I did not come prepared to
[19:47]
be able to answer that that question,
but that's something that's very easy
[19:51]
for me to to be able to pull.
>> Yeah, if you could pull those numbers,
[19:54]
we can get them to Mr. Davis for you. I
can tell you from a personal level, I've
[19:58]
spent 30 plus years in the fire service,
as did the mayor. Uh a utility vehicle
[20:04]
is basically a light air uh
refurbishment unit. It is used on every
[20:10]
major incident. Goes on every houseire,
every hazmat incident, every TRT
[20:15]
incident to provide support services. Uh
Phoenix operates, I believe, three of
[20:20]
them. And how many do we have? One.
>> One.
[20:22]
» I think we have one. So for one in a
city of a half million. So
[20:28]
» Chief Camelly is coming forward and she
looks eager to speak. So I might I might
[20:32]
get her the the mic. She might have some
more detail. But that's what the utility
[20:36]
vehicle does. support for all of the the
frontline firefighters and suppression
[20:41]
personnel uh who are doing the work.
>> Yes, Vice Mayor Council, I I do want to
[20:46]
add to what Jason has said and to what
you have said. This utility vehicle
[20:50]
really helps the firefighters be
sustainable on calls. So, in the
[20:53]
summertime, they are used way more often
because we have to rotate crews much
[20:57]
more often because of the heat. So,
every single fire scene where we have um
[21:02]
our firefighters using their SCBAs, this
rehab truck is brought to the scene.
[21:07]
Like Jason said, it provides lighting.
It provides refilling all the the
[21:11]
bottles. It also has cooling systems,
too. So, in the summertime, it has these
[21:14]
fans that blow cool air and also with
moisture to keep the firefighters cool
[21:19]
from, you know, you know, experiencing
heat exhaustion, things like that. So,
[21:24]
it does multiple things.
>> Yeah. So, it's very much useful.
[21:27]
comments,
>> council member Taylor. And then
[21:30]
» yeah, I just have a quick question. How
how old is the current unit and what is
[21:34]
the average lifespan?
>> It is a 2003, so it's almost what 24
[21:39]
years old. It's got 132,000 miles on it.
Typically with the manufacturers, they
[21:44]
only guarantee parts for like the 20
year mark. So we're kind of at that
[21:49]
point with the build times and stuff
like that that it's time to time to
[21:53]
replace it.
>> Okay, that's helpful. Thank you. That's
[21:57]
what I was going.
>> Okay. Anyone else? Any other questions?
[22:01]
No. All right. Thanks, Mary, Chief.
>> All right. So, item 4, use of a
[22:09]
cooperative contract to purchase of E1.
Yeah. One E1. Let's be clear about that.
[22:15]
One E1 Cyclone custom cab utility truck
replacement for the Mesa Fire and
[22:21]
Medical Department. It is funded by the
2024 public safety bonds. Do I have a
[22:26]
motion and a second?
I have a motion from council member
[22:30]
Duff, a second from council member
Goforth. Please vote.
[22:34]
Motion carries. Five with two absent.
All right. Item 4M,
[22:42]
Kimberly Dailyy. Let me find that.
[22:48]
Item 4M is a dollar limit increase to
the term contract for office furniture,
[22:53]
office supplies, and related products.
That's for citywide departments. Hi.
[22:58]
» Hi.
>> Three minutes.
[23:00]
» All right. Good evening, vice mayor and
council members. My name is Kimberly
[23:04]
Daly. I'm a resident of district 5 and a
precinct committeeman.
[23:10]
I'm speaking today about the proposed
increase uh for the contract with WHIS
[23:15]
business supplies and equipment. The
staff reports indicates that this is not
[23:20]
new funding, but rather existing project
money being redirected through this
[23:25]
contract for furniture purchases.
That distinction is important, but it
[23:31]
also raises a broader governance
concern. How much spending authority is
[23:35]
being concentrated in a single contract
without returning to council for
[23:40]
competitive review?
Even when funds are already budgeted,
[23:45]
the contract limit still matters. It
determines how much can be spent under a
[23:51]
single vendor arrangement without
further council oversight.
[23:56]
So the question is not just
administrative, it's about
[23:59]
accountability.
First, at what point does an increase of
[24:04]
this size require the city to return to
a competitive bidding process rather
[24:09]
than simply expanding an existing
contract.
[24:14]
The original procurement process is
particularly relevant here. Only two
[24:19]
companies submitted proposals, and after
both were evaluated and interviewed, the
[24:24]
city conducted a reverse auction to
allow the vendors to submit their best
[24:29]
and final offers.
The city reported that this process
[24:33]
reduced the overall bid amid amounts by
51%
[24:37]
saving approximately $279,000.
[24:42]
Given that we're now considering an
additional 6 million in contract
[24:46]
authority, could conducting a similar
competitive process again provide the
[24:52]
city with another opportunity to obtain
better pricing?
[24:56]
Second, this is a 5-year contract and
we're already seeing a significant
[25:01]
increase in year two just for projects
taking place in 2026.
[25:07]
That raises a serious question. Are we
establishing a pattern where this
[25:12]
contract will be repeatedly increased as
new projects come online over the life
[25:16]
of the agreement?
If so, council should understand that
[25:20]
now, not after multiple future
amendments. Finally, I think council
[25:24]
should consider whether consolidating
large project specific purchases into a
[25:30]
single contract reduces transparency
um around how individual capital
[25:36]
projects are being executed. To be
clear, I'm not questioning the need for
[25:40]
the projects themselves. My concern is
whether this structure preserves
[25:45]
meaningful council oversight and
competitive procurement discipline at
[25:50]
this scale, particularly when the
original competitive process um
[25:55]
demonstrated that competitive bidding
produced a 51% reduction in the overall
[26:01]
bid amounts.
>> Okay. Thank you so much. So, Mr. Butler,
[26:04]
why don't we give a little brief
description about when we go out to bid
[26:09]
versus when we expand a contract. And
>> this particular one is for furniture. Uh
[26:16]
it's not a budget increase. As she
noted, there was some cost savings,
[26:20]
which was great to hear.
>> Um and some of these stations, 205 is
[26:24]
new,
not a new station, but it's being
[26:27]
rebuilt,
>> completely rebuilt now.
[26:29]
» 20 224 is a new station. Uh police
headquarters is a new station. So that's
[26:35]
kind of the theme in here is that these
are new facilities are being rebuilt
[26:39]
facilities.
>> Absolutely. So, when do we make those
[26:41]
decisions about going out to bid versus
extending a contract like that in order
[26:47]
to save costs?
>> Good afternoon, Vice Mayor, council
[26:50]
members. Um, so, uh, just couple points
that you already covered. Um, this is
[26:56]
not a budget increase. These, uh,
prices, these costs rather, um, were
[27:00]
included in the projects that are
planned. Um secondly, um what we do is
[27:06]
when we ask for a the council for a
contract dollar limit when we're
[27:10]
awarding a contract, um we ask for our
baseline needs. So the $2 million that
[27:16]
was originally awarded was our baseline
needs for furniture as well as office
[27:20]
products and supplies. um when we have
projects, we come back to council and
[27:26]
ask for the money for those projects.
So, we don't overinflate the other years
[27:30]
that are part of that contract award. Um
in this case, um we did do uh
[27:36]
competitive procurement of re reverse
auction for the office supplies and
[27:41]
furniture, the baseline contract. Um,
but for these purchases, we also went
[27:45]
out to the state contracts and we
compared the price that we could get
[27:50]
using our contract with WIST to
contracts that the state has available
[27:55]
to us, um, including one from WIST and
our price that we were able to obtain on
[28:01]
this contract with WIS. with the
partnership we've built with this
[28:06]
cooperative contract that we were the
lead agency on, we were able to get a
[28:11]
slightly better price than uh we would
be able to get using the state
[28:15]
contracts. So, while we didn't go out
for a singular contract for these uh
[28:20]
additional purchases that we're looking
for in this year um for these projects,
[28:25]
we did go out, we compared our existing
WIS contract with several of the state
[28:31]
contracts that are available to us as an
agency of the state.
[28:36]
» I don't think it's very often that we
beat the state co-op contract,
[28:40]
» right? And I think that speaks volumes
to the creativity that um that Ed and
[28:45]
his team have used that has awarded
them, you know, national recognition as
[28:50]
far as how we go about procuring and uh
and doing our business services. So, um
[28:56]
we we see that creative themes like
reverse auctions have generated larger
[29:01]
cost savings than we can even get on the
competitive market. So, it's it's a
[29:05]
great testament to the fact that we are
trying to squeeze, you know, every penny
[29:09]
out of the tax taxpayer dollars that we
need to put into these facilities and
[29:13]
and the uh furniture and other equipment
that goes into it.
[29:16]
» As well too, this WIS contract that MESA
awarded is a is a what we call a save
[29:22]
cooperative contract. So, it is
available to um it's between 150
[29:28]
different agencies across the state.
We're an elite agency, but because we're
[29:33]
awarding that contract and it's
available to that large group, we see
[29:37]
very competitive pricing on that
contract.
[29:40]
» Very good. Any questions from uh
council?
[29:44]
» I just I just want to make sure I
clarify and understand. So, basically,
[29:48]
even though you did not go back out for
bid for the $6 million,
[29:52]
» correct?
[clears throat] What is the time frame
[29:55]
between the the original bid and the
request that we're getting today where
[29:59]
you did go out to bid?
>> We're in year two. So, I believe the
[30:02]
contract started in August of 2025.
>> Do you think that if you had gone out to
[30:08]
bid that we would have saved even more
money within that two-year time frame?
[30:12]
» Um, so
>> or am I missing something on that?
[30:16]
» I'm not exactly sure how to answer the
question. The the year one was a
[30:21]
baseline year. So that was a $2 million
award and and and dollar limit for that
[30:27]
period. It's just this second year um
where we have these uh uh projects that
[30:33]
are coming up and we did look at the uh
pricing available to us on the WHIS
[30:38]
contract as well as those state contract
cooperative contracts that are available
[30:43]
to us.
>> Yeah. And and Ed, I think you could say
[30:45]
with some certainty with just one year
uh into this bidding prices have not
[30:49]
gone down. I think anyone who's
purchased anything um understands the
[30:55]
realities of of what some of the
economic impacts and tariffs and other
[30:59]
things have had on on these prices. And
so um the the pricing being only a year
[31:05]
into the contract should be very
competitive considering what's happening
[31:09]
in the market right now. So we are we
thinking that it would actually
[31:13]
potentially cost more had we gone to bid
>> now. Um
[31:18]
» because of the increased cost of
products.
[31:20]
» The the contract is a percent discount
or addition to a list price. So the the
[31:27]
prices are going to fluctuate. The
percent discount is what we base it on.
[31:31]
Um everybody's kind of bidding on the
same price list. So the question is
[31:36]
would we get a better percent discount
>> if we went out for bid and u because we
[31:42]
have the large volume of 100 agencies
>> um on the existing contract it's
[31:48]
unlikely.
>> Okay. Okay.
[31:51]
» It's a lot of furniture. I know that
because we have so many locations.
[31:55]
» It is.
>> We're in the industry so it's a tricky
[31:58]
question. Like I know the cost of
toilets has gone up, which is probably
[32:02]
not something people think about very
often, but yeah, thank you. I appreciate
[32:06]
you explaining it. And yeah, thank you,
>> Kim. Does that help?
[32:08]
» Sorry, I was That's what I was going to
ask.
[32:11]
» I want to make sure you're
>> That makes sense. Okay. Yeah.
[32:15]
» Any additional questions?
>> Okay. And Ed, if uh if Miss Daly has any
[32:20]
additional questions, are you available?
Okay.
[32:24]
» Very good. Thank you, sir.
>> All right. With that, on item 4M, I'll
[32:29]
take a motion. Dollar limit increase to
the term contract for office furniture,
[32:33]
office supplies, and related products
for citywide departments. I have a
[32:38]
motion from council member Duff, a
second from council member Heredia.
[32:44]
Please vote.
I have five yeses and two absent on
[32:51]
that.
So, we're going to go to item 5B.
[32:57]
which is adopting a notice of intent to
enter into a retail development and tax
[33:01]
incentive agreement pursuant to
ARS9-500.11
[33:06]
related to the development known as
Canon Beach Hotel.
[33:11]
Noah, I should have started with you so
you can get up here, but you're in the
[33:16]
front so we're good. Three minutes,
Noah.
[33:18]
» Um, aloha, Vice Mayor, and to the rest
of the city council. Um, yeah, I really
[33:24]
like this one. Um,
and if you've never been to the Canon
[33:28]
Beach, [laughter] it's a great place.
It's better than the California beach. I
[33:33]
I think so. Um, [laughter]
and um, yeah, this is great to have.
[33:38]
And, um, the Canon Beach Hotel will be a
great addition uh, to this Canon Beach.
[33:45]
So, thank you so much, M.
>> No, I got to tell you what you're the
[33:48]
lay that you're wearing fits into Canon
Beach very well. Right.
[33:51]
» You would be perfectly dressed for that.
[laughter]
[33:53]
» Yes. Thanks.
>> Thank you. No, I appreciate it. All
[33:57]
right. So 5B is notice intent to enter
into a retail development tax incentive
[34:03]
agreement Canon Beach generally located
at southeast corner of Power Road and
[34:07]
Warner Road. I'll take a motion.
I have a motion from council member Go
[34:13]
forth, a second from council member
Heredia. Please vote.
[34:17]
Motion passes five to zero with two
absent.
[34:23]
Margie Gomez,
you're going to be up next. Margie,
[34:28]
you're speaking on item 5C, approving
and authorizing the city manager to
[34:32]
enter into an intergovernmental
agreement with the city of Phoenix to
[34:35]
provide detention officer training uh to
city of Phoenix trainees.
[34:42]
Three minutes, ma'am.
>> Thank you. Thank you. I have looked into
[34:49]
this intergovernmental agreement and to
provide the detention officer training
[34:56]
and I have seen that in section 4.3 it
says that some of this money could be
[35:03]
used for uh things that would cause a
lot of harm like batons and uh tasers.
[35:11]
And so I recommend that we do not
approve this um this resolution and that
[35:21]
we
add extra oversight and auditing to the
[35:29]
way that this um training is being
proposed.
[35:34]
And um also
a partially related is that ICE per the
[35:43]
AP news has proposed having
>> Margie I I got to stop you there. So
[35:49]
this doesn't there's no immigration
training in this and I think we can
[35:53]
confirm that.
>> So because there's no immigration
[35:56]
training
>> we can't have a discussion on ICE or
[35:59]
immigration.
>> Oh yes. Yes.
[36:01]
» But everything else you're talking about
was fine.
[36:02]
» Oh yes. Yes. I I am sorry about that. I
don't mean to talk about that part. But
[36:08]
uh basically I think that this is a
governance question, an accountability
[36:13]
question to our budget and that we need
to invest in education and to not
[36:21]
approve this training based on um the
contradiction of the um office training
[36:31]
compared to the training of how to use
batons and tra and tasers.
[36:35]
» Okay.
Thank you. Thank you so much, Mr.
[36:38]
Butler. Do we want do we have anybody
can speak briefly on the training?
[36:42]
» Yeah, we do. We do have representatives
from Mesa Police Department that uh
[36:47]
Assistant Chief Nesbbit is making her
way up and
[36:51]
» yeah, [clears throat] sitting all the
way in the back. Chief [laughter]
[36:58]
» and Chief, if Miss Gomez has any
questions after, would you be available
[37:02]
to answer them for her?
>> Vice Mayor Summers, absolutely. Thank
[37:05]
you.
>> Okay. Thank you for having us up here to
[37:07]
um address this training concern. I have
manager Christina Van Gordon here who
[37:11]
oversees our holding facility evidence
and property and she is prepared to
[37:15]
speak more specifically on the training
requirements that we um have in place
[37:20]
for our detention personnel and the
needs and the necessary needs for uh
[37:25]
deescalation and specific types of less
than lethal uses of force.
[37:30]
» Okay. Thank you.
>> Hi, thank you. Um the training that we
[37:34]
have basically mirrors what peace
officers receive from the Arizona Post.
[37:38]
We're just not sworn officers to teach
it. So they do everything from the same
[37:42]
curriculum that's received at the Mesa
Training Academy.
[37:47]
» So it utilizes all levels of force. So
it includes everything. So we need to
[37:51]
train on the aspaton. We need to train
on the electronic uh connective device.
[37:56]
we need to train on um you know the way
we move folks in certain processes when
[38:03]
we have uh limited options, right? And
so these are just levels that we use to
[38:10]
address specific scenarios that are
based on all the same uh governance, you
[38:14]
know, statute as well as case law that
direct us to use those specific types of
[38:19]
force. And those are just tools that are
um in our tool belt, if you will. And I
[38:23]
would assume force is the last resort.
>> Correct. These are only used under our
[38:28]
policies and procedures that go along
with um when we would use force. That
[38:33]
was a reasonable.
>> And you spoke of deescalation. What's
[38:35]
that training like?
>> Uh they receive emotional intelligence,
[38:39]
deescalation, how to communicate with
people and how to talk people down
[38:42]
instead of using the force.
>> And is is that the bulk of the training
[38:45]
that they
>> That's a large portion of our training.
[38:47]
Yes.
>> Yeah.
[38:49]
» You can laugh all you like. That's fine.
Okay. Vice Mayor Summers, just to
[38:53]
reinforce the policies and procedures
that are in set in place are under the
[38:57]
Mesa Police Department. So they follow
all the same rules that are governed
[39:01]
through a post and our trainingmies.
>> Okay. Any questions or from council?
[39:07]
» Vice Mayor, I would I would just add to
I I appreciate uh Chief Nesbet giving
[39:12]
that explanation. Training is essential
for how our public safety officials do
[39:17]
their jobs day in and day out. It is a
tough business but proper training
[39:22]
ensures we have less incidents that lead
to concern uh both for the IND the
[39:28]
detained individual the other officers
and the other people in the detention
[39:32]
center uh itself and so um training is a
good thing more training is a good thing
[39:37]
and I'm I'm glad as a department we take
a lot of pride for both uh our detention
[39:42]
officers our sworn officers uh anyone
who is in a capacity like that we want
[39:47]
to make sure that they have the best
training in the nation and that h has
[39:51]
allowed us um our department to have an
exemplary record um when it comes to
[39:56]
that um in very challenging situations
that comes into uh policing. So I I
[40:01]
think more training is a good thing. So
>> Vice Mayor uh Summers and Council and
[40:06]
Mr. Mr. Butler, one last thing. You can
go to our transparency page and there we
[40:11]
have explicit information on our
encounters and use of force that goes
[40:15]
along with those encounters and the
different types of force that we're
[40:19]
using. So, I would strongly recommend uh
checking out the transparency page.
[40:23]
» Okay, any additional questions?
All right, seeing none, item 5C,
[40:30]
approving and authorizing the city
manager to enter into an
[40:33]
intergovernmental agreement with the
city of Phoenix to provide detention
[40:36]
officer training to city of Phoenix
trainees as set forth uh the terms of
[40:41]
reimbursement to the city for such
training. Do I have a motion?
[40:46]
Motion from council member Heredia,
second from council member Duff. Please
[40:50]
vote.
Motion passes
[40:54]
50 with two absent.
All right, Miss Gomez, you had some uh
[41:01]
you're on the record to speak on 7A and
8A. So, you'll be up next, just so you
[41:05]
know. So, we'll move on to item 8A. Uh
sorry, my bad. 7A, which is a resolution
[41:13]
approving and authorizing the city
manager to enter into a development
[41:17]
agreement and other arrangements for the
OIO project. Do any council members want
[41:24]
to speak on this item?
[41:28]
» Council member Duff,
>> I think I prefer to hear from the public
[41:31]
and then I'm
>> You want to hear from the public and
[41:32]
then we can Okay, Miss Mosley, we had
the one speaker. So, Miss Gomez,
[41:42]
and then we'll go back to council. Three
minutes. Ma'am,
[41:45]
» thank you so much. So, um I noticed that
this the money taken for this project is
[41:54]
being taken from education, including
the community college. And so I think
[42:00]
that funding should not be uh taken from
education to subsidize this um this
[42:08]
venture. And so I would like for there
to be a lot more oversight into and
[42:16]
justification for the funding source and
that an alternative to taking money from
[42:23]
the community college fund be um
explored. and that this and that no
[42:29]
further action on this resolution is
taken until that happens
[42:36]
until we secure a funding source that
does not involve decreasing money from
[42:41]
education.
>> Okay. Thank you so much, Mr. Butler or
[42:45]
» Vice Mayor and Mayor or Vice Mayor and
Council. I think I'll I'll take this one
[42:49]
if they are it's all right. Uh so as
part of the uh any of our jeepletit
[42:53]
deals, government property lease excise
tax deals, we we require that the
[42:58]
developer make the other um school
districts and all the other governmental
[43:03]
agencies whole by continuing to to to
pay the tax um that they would have paid
[43:08]
to those entities. And so the school
districts are made whole. And then at
[43:10]
the end of the the eight the eight years
they'll actually the taxes will then
[43:16]
obviously ramp up significantly because
they invested in and they made the the
[43:19]
improvements to the um to the property.
So during the during the during the
[43:24]
lease term they're they're made whole
and then afterwards then the the actual
[43:28]
tax amount uh amount will jump up
significantly. So, they still pay their
[43:32]
tax to to the state and then after the
8-year termination, there's a property
[43:37]
re assessment and then because of the
added value to that assessment, they
[43:42]
they make more money in their taxes. So,
they the education is is taken into
[43:48]
account in a formula and they do receive
tax dollars. So, we're not cutting them
[43:52]
off at all. Would that be accurate?
>> That that would be accurate. And and as
[43:57]
Mr. Smith said, that's essential to all
of our GPLET deals. make sure that those
[44:00]
taxing indust in um entities are made
whole. Uh and then uh this lot for
[44:06]
example has sat vacant for an extended
period of time. I'm sure maybe Mr. McVey
[44:11]
could tell us how long that has been. uh
um generating nominal uh taxes on that
[44:17]
property. But after this uh 8-year
abatement period, uh they will then uh
[44:23]
generate substantially more u revenue
for our educational institutions and
[44:28]
those other taxing industries than
exists today or if it maintained a a
[44:32]
vacant lot for the years to come.
>> Yeah. And I I appreciate your concern
[44:36]
because ma education is important to
this council. We have Mesa Counts on
[44:40]
College and a number of other programs
that we fund to ensure that access to
[44:44]
higher education and a properly trained
workforce is critical to our economic
[44:50]
development activities. So, I do
appreciate your comment. Do is there any
[44:54]
other council member would like to make
a comment?
[44:56]
» No. Council member Heredia.
>> No, I think uh Mr. Smith mentioned uh I
[45:01]
think with the the deals like this uh we
we ensure that our school districts are
[45:06]
made whole with which is Mesa Public
Schools uh the community college and
[45:11]
EVIT which are the three um and then I
know we've talked about this project
[45:16]
quite a bit uh in over the years um as
far as uh creating more opportunities
[45:23]
for people to live in the the area of
the Asian district and uh and along the
[45:28]
light rail. So, this is a a much needed
project with housing and some commercial
[45:35]
uh that will be added uh once it's uh
fully done. So,
[45:40]
» very good. Council member Duff.
>> Yeah. Uh the figures on the payment that
[45:44]
will be made to the school districts um
on the attachments for the agenda item
[45:50]
on page seven of the presentation and
page four of the council report spells
[45:58]
out the figures and to the entities that
they will be made whole. Um,
[46:05]
one of the reasons that we have the
griplet is to assist the de developer
[46:10]
and we have this was a transit uh, what
do you call it? Is it a um,
[46:15]
» like a park and ride?
>> Park and ride. And there's a lot of
[46:20]
changes that need to be made in order to
have this housing structure here and
[46:25]
protect accesses and pedestrian pathways
and reworking that land in order for it
[46:32]
to work. It's a huge expense for the
developer and the abatement does assist
[46:36]
them in taking care of those transit
adjustments as well as some other things
[46:41]
there during this time. So it we make it
a policy that there has to be a public
[46:47]
benefit when we offer the the giplets
the the um discounts, but we certainly
[46:53]
make sure um that our schools are always
taken care of.
[46:57]
» Thank you.
>> And Mr. Butler, it's safe to assume that
[47:00]
those agencies that are impacted by this
were part of our discussion. They're not
[47:04]
kept in the dark, right?
>> Uh Vice Mayor and Council. Yes. So we
[47:09]
actually we provide them notice um ahead
of time and so we've provided them um I
[47:13]
can't remember if it's 60 days or 30
days I can't remember the conversation
[47:17]
we actually give them notice.
>> Council member Taylor did you have
[47:20]
anything?
>> Marjorie I just wanted to say thank you.
[47:23]
I really appreciated listening to your
concern for our education institutions.
[47:28]
I worked in education for a while, so it
kind of hits near and dear to my heart.
[47:33]
And to encourage you to know that there
is funding that offsets the funding they
[47:37]
would otherwise lose. And then our hope,
of course, is that with the OVO, it will
[47:42]
generate so much more funding that we
will actually be able to give even more
[47:46]
money to our education institutions. So,
I just wanted to say thank you for your
[47:51]
time that you came up here to express
your concerns.
[47:54]
» Yeah. Thank you.
I also taught at ASU so I I know about
[48:00]
being in education. [clears throat]
>> Thank you, Dr. Summers. [laughter]
[48:05]
» All right, with that item 7A, approving
and authorizing the city manager to
[48:09]
enter into an intergovernmental
agreement for uh government property
[48:14]
lease excise tax agreement uh with Pride
Ventures LLC for the mixeduse project
[48:20]
known as OIO and the real property. I
have a motion. Council member Heredia,
[48:26]
second from Council Member Goforth.
Please vote.
[48:30]
Motion passes five to zero with two
absent.
[48:34]
All right, Miss Gomez,
you also wanted to speak on item 8A. So,
[48:40]
let me read some stuff here. Item 8 A is
to conduct a public hearing prior to the
[48:46]
release of the petition for signatures
for the proposed annexation case
[48:50]
25-00682
for the property located at the
[48:55]
southwest corner of East Williams Field
Road and State Route 24. I declare the
[49:01]
public hearing open. Miss Mosley, I
usually go to you, but I have the list
[49:06]
of speakers. So, with three minutes,
Miss Gomez. Uh thank you so much again.
[49:13]
So uh my concern here is that um the
owner Pacific Proving LLC
[49:21]
had also been noted as um
spending money on data centers. And
[49:29]
because of this concern of wanting to
have some transparency and
[49:36]
accountability for how all of the money
is being spent, I think that there
[49:42]
should be um some additional
requirements just to um make sure that
[49:48]
all of the money that is being spent is
going towards services and um that
[49:54]
improve things for the people in Mesa.
>> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Butler. So, this is
[50:02]
the first action of several. Is this a
data center?
[50:05]
» This is not a data center.
>> This is not a data center, I promise.
[50:09]
» And this is dealing with private
property that this property owner is
[50:12]
looking to annex into the city of Mesa.
Um, we we provide no test as what was
[50:19]
described uh by the speaker to allow
someone to exercise their right under
[50:24]
city code to u to annex into the city.
And Jim may want to add anything to
[50:30]
that, but
>> and also just uh vice mayor and counsel,
[50:33]
there's no money involved in this. This
is just a release of the petition. This
[50:37]
is a statutory, it's basically a notice
hearing that's from a statute that the
[50:42]
state passed uh decades ago to just make
sure that the public is aware of an
[50:47]
annexation of property. But there's no
money involved in this. It'll come, in
[50:51]
fact, you don't even vote after this. Um
you'll it'll come back to council in the
[50:55]
future for a vote. So this is just this
is a public notice um that was um that's
[51:00]
done in large part because of um
annexations in the um in other areas of
[51:05]
the of the state in which um they the
cities didn't provide notice because
[51:08]
they don't have an introduction type of
requirement that we have. So this is um
[51:13]
this is just a notice hearing
without saying too much. This is a
[51:18]
project we've been working on for quite
a while. So stay tuned. But your fears
[51:24]
will be set aside. I guarantee.
>> Okay. Thank you.
[51:27]
» All right. So, any any other persons
wanting to speak on this?
[51:31]
» No other requests.
>> No other requests. I declare the public
[51:34]
hearing closed. Uh the hearing was to
release a petition for signatures. No
[51:39]
other actions on this item. The item
will come back to council in the future
[51:42]
for consideration of the annexation. So,
you're there's the uh this second part
[51:47]
that Jim was referring to. Item 8B is to
conduct conduct a public hearing prior
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to the release of petition for
signatures for the proposed annexation
[51:57]
case 25-00893
[52:02]
for the property property located at the
northeast corner of South Ellsworth Road
[52:08]
and East Williams Field Road. I declare
the public hearing open. Miss Mosley, do
[52:13]
we have any requests to speak on this
item?
[52:15]
» We have received no requests for this
one.
[52:17]
» No requests on this item. Any council
members want to address this item?
[52:22]
Okay, seeing none, I declare the public
hearing closed. Again, this item will
[52:26]
come back to council in the future for
consideration on the annexation.
[52:33]
Item nine, items from citizens present.
We have uh three items. Ms. Mosley, I
[52:40]
believe Jason Smithson.
>> Yes, Jason is first, followed by
[52:44]
» the first, followed by Noah. Noah,
you're on deck.
[52:49]
Not again.
[52:53]
» Vice Mayor, council members, on June
20th, I spoke before this council
[52:58]
regarding the IGA between the city of
Mesa and Mesa public schools concerning
[53:03]
the school resource officer program.
During those remarks, I stated that an
[53:08]
officer assigned to Mesa High School was
on the Brady list. At that time, I
[53:12]
believed it to be accurate based on
information I had received from sources
[53:16]
considered credible. I have since
learned that that statement was
[53:20]
incorrect. The officer in question is
not on the Brady list. Regardless of
[53:25]
where the information came from or why I
believed it to be accurate, I was the
[53:30]
person who stated at this podium and
said it publicly. That responsibility
[53:34]
belongs to me. I would never knowingly
make a false or defamatory statement
[53:39]
about anyone, particularly a member of
law enforcement. That officer deserves
[53:44]
the same fairness, accuracy, and respect
that I would expect if someone were
[53:48]
speaking publicly about me. Since
learning of my mistake, I have been in
[53:52]
contact with Chief of Police Dan Butler
and Sergeant Gillet Gilllet, don't want
[53:58]
to butcher his name, and my words have
been shared with the officer involved.
[54:02]
But because I made that statement
publicly, I believe the correction and
[54:06]
apology should also be made publicly. So
to the officer, to the Mesa Police
[54:11]
Department, the council, and the Mesa
community, I am sincerely sorry.
[54:16]
Accountability and transparency means
more than just demanding it from other
[54:19]
people. It means accepting it yourself
when you get something wrong. I got this
[54:24]
wrong. I take responsibility for it and
I will be more diligent in verifying
[54:29]
information before making statements of
fact publicly. I can't undo what I said
[54:33]
on June 20th, but I can correct the
record, apologize without qualification,
[54:38]
learn from it, and do better moving
forward. Thank you.
[54:43]
» All right.
Thank you, uh, Noah. And then the final
[54:48]
speaker is Leanne. So, Leanne, you're on
deck.
[54:52]
Um, aloha vice mayor and to the rest of
the city council. My name is Noah James
[54:57]
Markham and I'm from the great city of
uh Tempe. So I I want to give a huge
[55:04]
congratulations to Nick Willis. Um, wow.
A Mormon. Yes. That believes in good
[55:11]
values finally.
Also, I would like to talk about the
[55:15]
Superstition Springs Mall. Um, Vice
Mayor, uh, Scott, I I need more
[55:23]
renovation with this, more businesses
there.
[55:27]
Try to do something over there, more
apartments down there. We need to
[55:31]
remodel around there because there's so
many people that are coming that way
[55:35]
now. There's more building going to
Apache Junction. There's more building
[55:39]
going to other cities around there. Um,
so that would be a great hot spot for
[55:43]
people to go to instead of going to the
Chandler Mall all the time. Um also um
[55:50]
this is a big concern for me and as
people are trying to put down this data
[55:56]
center um the Tokyo data center
especially um we need to recognize the
[56:03]
people um the Japanese Americans that
suffered a lot in America and the
[56:10]
Japanese concentration camps are not
very far away um from Mesa. Um but um I
[56:16]
I really think this would be a great
gift for the Japanese Americans and
[56:21]
people from Tokyo could come into this
business and um you can see what the
[56:25]
Japanese are smart of. They are very
smart. Um and I think we should build
[56:30]
this um in uh Mesa. Also, I would like
to talk about um Mayor Freeman. Mayor
[56:38]
Freeman, um I'm sorry, but um I'm just
happy that the last mayor before you,
[56:43]
John Giles from Mesa, is an independent
will be on the ticket with Katie Hos for
[56:48]
reelection, and we need him as the first
lieutenant governor. Also, I would like
[56:53]
to talk about Flock. Another thing I
really like flock, but there are people
[56:59]
that are making mistakes with this and
that is the police officers, whoever is
[57:03]
in charge of this, it is it's
embarrassing. Um, but I want to be safe,
[57:08]
too. Um, and I know Flack will do its
job. Um, but right now, I guess people
[57:13]
are not um they're against it right now.
So, [laughter] um, let's see. But,
[57:19]
mahalo, thank you so much.
>> All right. Thank you, Noah and Leanne.
[57:26]
Hi Leanne, you have three minutes.
>> Thank you.
[57:30]
U Mesa currently has around 15 data
centers. They use or could use lithium
[57:35]
batteries which in the case they catch
on fire will need tons of water more
[57:40]
than just a regular house or warehouse
fire to put it out or even special
[57:44]
chemicals I believe. I don't know. Uh
after that it gets put out, someone
[57:49]
needs to keep an eye on the battery for
at least a few weeks to make sure it
[57:52]
doesn't catch on fire again. Instead of
using so instead of using water to put
[57:58]
out the fires, they could use it to cool
the systems, right? But that can take
[58:02]
around millions of gallons of water in
cooler states, might I add. So how much
[58:06]
do you think they will use here during a
115 degree day? We're already facing a
[58:11]
water shortage due to uh do we want to
lose more to these centers? If not
[58:17]
water, they could use diesel powered
generators to assist in cooling their
[58:21]
systems down, ignoring the air pollution
on that aspect alone. They could tap
[58:26]
into the electric grid to not only
power, but to cool their systems down.
[58:30]
The sounds from both of these choices
are awful and can be heard for miles.
[58:35]
This sound will scare away not only
wildlife but the monarch butterflies
[58:38]
that Mayor Freeman signed a national
wildlife pledge to help increase their
[58:42]
population. If he can break this pledge,
this promise by introducing things that
[58:47]
will disrupt their migration patterns
and dwindle their numbers even more,
[58:51]
then what other promises will he break?
The sound inside of these centers will
[58:57]
drive down property value or if built
near businesses could drive away
[59:01]
potential customers or new businesses
due to the sound pollution. Just like we
[59:06]
heard during the Falcon Field landing
fee meeting where a business owner
[59:09]
complained that their numbers dropped
due to planes flying close enough to
[59:13]
hear. And what about the people who
wanted to have a quiet morning on their
[59:17]
porch? Plane noises disappear at least,
but these centers will always be there
[59:21]
humming away more loud and more annoying
than the planes.
[59:25]
These centers will cause strains on the
electric grid. And while increasing our
[59:29]
electric bills will cause rolling
blackouts to prevent a full shutdown. If
[59:34]
it does get overwhelmed or one small
thing, one small mistake happens, a
[59:38]
total blackout can occur. Just like in
New York, July 13th and the 14th, 1977,
[59:45]
which resulted in four deaths and 550
injuries, or the Northeast blackout on
[59:50]
August 4th, which in 2003, which lasted
in some areas 2 hours and others up to 4
[59:56]
days, and that resulted in around 100
deaths. Now, imagine that happening here
[1:00:01]
when those days are recorded uh 115°.
>> You have about 20 seconds.
[1:00:07]
» Thank you. Uh, we don't need any more
data centers, AI centers, or the
[1:00:11]
extension on the NT center. I would
sooner trust nuclear power plants than
[1:00:16]
these centers.
If anyone if anyone votes yes on these
[1:00:21]
centers, we will vote no on your next
election or have you recalled like those
[1:00:25]
before. Thank you.
Made it. All right. [applause]
[1:00:34]
I assume the applause is because this
was such a great meeting, but
[1:00:38]
So with that, that was our last speaker.
That's all the items we have for this
[1:00:42]
meeting. There is a motion to adjurnn. I
have a motion from council member Go
[1:00:46]
forth, a second from council member
Taylor. All in favor, please say I. I.
[1:00:51]
» Any opposed? We are adjourned.
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» [music]