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[21:32] Good morning. We're going to get started

[21:33] this morning with an invocation led by

[21:36] Pastor Ren Schuffman of Freedom

[21:38] Fellowship Church. And that'll be

[21:40] followed by the Pledge of Allegiance led

[21:42] by Levi Maline Asher and Hannah Pek

[21:45] representing Scouting America Troops 177

[21:48] and 6177.

[21:50] Please stand as you are able. Uh it's an

[21:52] honor to be with you guys again.

[21:55] Let me pray.

[21:57] Heavenly Father, creator of the

[21:59] universe. Lord, we thank you and we

[22:01] beseech you this day. Father, would you

[22:04] help lead these men and women as they

[22:07] lead our great city? Father, the word

[22:10] says that what I bless is blessed and

[22:11] what I curse is cursed. And so today, I

[22:14] speak blessing over this council, over

[22:17] their leadership, over this city. Lord,

[22:20] as we step into a year where we

[22:21] celebrate 250 years as a nation,

[22:26] Lord, by men who put you first, by

[22:29] leaders who sought your voice, your

[22:32] counsel, and your wisdom, Lord, would

[22:34] that be the standard again? Would that

[22:39] be the call that your wisdom, your will,

[22:42] your plan for our city, would be

[22:46] adopted,

[22:47] would be uh uh carried. Father, Lord,

[22:51] would heaven reign on earth here through

[22:54] our leadership? Would you give them wise

[22:56] counsel? Would you give them uh great

[22:58] plans? Would you give them uh future

[23:00] vision, Lord, to see how great our city

[23:03] could be? That this city would be an

[23:05] example to the nation, Lord. that our

[23:07] values,

[23:09] that our systems,

[23:12] that our hearts are to be followed, that

[23:15] it would be a standard for our nation.

[23:17] Lord, would you bless every area of our

[23:19] government, Lord, as the kingdom of

[23:22] heaven rules and reigns in this place,

[23:24] Lord? Let it not be the kingdom of man,

[23:27] but Lord, let it be your kingdom that

[23:29] governs this great nation. Your favor

[23:32] that causes us to be blessed, that we

[23:34] would be a people set apart that people

[23:37] would know your love

[23:40] and your compassion in action by the way

[23:44] that you move through this city, Lord.

[23:46] that others would look and say somehow

[23:48] every storm that comes they weather and

[23:52] they come out more favored. Father I

[23:54] bless this meeting with wisdom Lord that

[23:58] your plans are done in the mighty name

[24:00] of Jesus. Amen.

[24:13] Please join us in the pledge of

[24:14] allegiance.

[24:17] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

[24:20] United States of America and to the

[24:22] republic for which it stands, one nation

[24:25] under God, indivisible, with liberty and

[24:29] justice for all.

[24:31] » You may be seated.

[24:35] » Thank you. Thank you, Pastor Chefman.

[24:37] Thank you, Levi, Matteline, Asher, and

[24:39] Hannah.

[24:42] All right, I call this meeting of the

[24:43] city council to order. And we have uh a

[24:47] presentation to make. Item 3A under

[24:49] office of the mayor. And I'll make my

[24:50] way to the front for that. And Brooklyn,

[24:53] please join me.

[25:10] Brooklyn, you are our employee of the

[25:13] month and so we would love to learn a

[25:15] little bit more about you and so I'd ask

[25:17] the clerk to read this resolution.

[25:20] » Whereas Brooklyn Rogers has been a city

[25:22] employee for 21 years and serves as

[25:25] administrative specialist for the

[25:27] general services department. And whereas

[25:30] Brooklyn consistently demonstrates

[25:32] outstanding teamwork and dedication in

[25:35] supporting the accounts payable team

[25:37] through timely followup, thorough

[25:39] research, and dependable assistance on a

[25:42] wide variety of matters.

[25:45] And whereas Brooklyn takes ownership of

[25:47] every concern brought to her, responding

[25:50] promptly, accurately, and with a

[25:53] commitment to finding effective

[25:55] solutions. And whereas Brooklyn recently

[25:58] went above and beyond while assisting

[26:00] with a vendor statement by carefully

[26:02] identifying each item in question and

[26:05] determining the appropriate department,

[26:07] providing clarity where documentation

[26:10] was incomplete. And whereas Brooklyn's

[26:13] attention to detail, reliability, and

[26:15] willingness to exceed expectations have

[26:18] strengthened the accounts payable team's

[26:21] ability to serve city departments and

[26:23] vendors efficiently.

[26:26] And whereas Brooklyn is widely

[26:27] recognized by her co-workers as a

[26:30] trusted, dependable, and valued team

[26:32] member whose professionalism and

[26:35] positive attitude contribute to the

[26:37] success of the department. Now,

[26:39] therefore, be it resolved by the mayor

[26:41] and council of the city of Oklahoma City

[26:44] that they do hereby thank and commend

[26:46] Brooklyn Rogers July 2026 South Oklahoma

[26:50] City Kanas Club employee of the month.

[26:54] Well, thank you. Well, uh, Brooklyn,

[26:56] we're so grateful for your service as

[26:58] one of the 5,000 greatest city employees

[27:00] in the country, and we'd love to, uh, I

[27:03] think as a council commemorate that with

[27:05] passage of this resolution. So, let's

[27:07] see if we can get a motion in a second.

[27:18] Is that coming along?

[27:21] I don't see anything. Is it Is we have a

[27:23] motion in a second?

[27:24] » Yes.

[27:25] » Okay. I wish to vote. I cast your votes.

[27:32] » You'll have to let me know.

[27:34] » Passed. All right. We're going to take

[27:35] the word for it, Brooklyn. We think it

[27:37] passed.

[27:38] » Um, well, now you said you maybe don't

[27:41] want to give like a whole speech, and I

[27:43] I said, "Can I just hold the microphone

[27:45] and you say thank you?" How does that

[27:46] sound? Deal.

[27:47] » Deal.

[27:48] » All right.

[27:49] » I would.

[27:50] » Oh. Oh, there's more coming out than

[27:52] just thinking. There you go. You've

[27:53] warmed up. All right. Here you go,

[27:54] Brooklyn.

[27:55] » Okay. Thank you. I'm so overwhelmed.

[28:00] Um, but thanks for my co-workers. Thanks

[28:03] for showing up for me. Thank you for

[28:05] making it easy to go to work. And I've

[28:08] been in four departments and stuff and

[28:10] but I think general services is long

[28:12] good. So, I I've been at So, thank you

[28:14] very much. Thanks to accounts payable

[28:16] for nominating me or something. And

[28:19] [laughter]

[28:20] thank you.

[28:21] » Awesome. I knew you could do it. Let's

[28:22] hear for Brooklyn. [applause]

[28:49] All right, we're still on office of the

[28:51] mayor. Um, I have a significant number

[28:53] of appointments today. Customarily, I

[28:57] might shout out the boards that are

[28:59] affected. That may be um impractical

[29:02] today, but it's items B through AJ. um

[29:08] dozens of uh boards affected by these

[29:11] appointments today. Now, there is one

[29:13] I'd like to pull out for a separate vote

[29:16] um just because of a uh family

[29:19] relationship that one of our council

[29:21] members have. And so, let's vote on item

[29:24] 3R, the appointments to the Metropolitan

[29:26] Library Commission first. If we could

[29:28] just get a motion on that one.

[29:35] Have a motion and a second. cast your

[29:37] votes.

[29:42] Passes unanimously. Now the rest, if uh

[29:45] there are no questions or comments,

[29:47] would be items B through Q and S through

[29:50] AJ as a group.

[29:57] Have a motion in a second. Cast your

[29:58] votes.

[30:06] passes unanimously and um thank you for

[30:09] your contributions to some of these with

[30:10] nominations and there'll probably be not

[30:13] maybe quite as many but quite a few

[30:15] coming up on August 18th as well. Um all

[30:19] right then we have um

[30:24] let's see okay this is for Al. All

[30:25] right. So, we have a travel. This is

[30:27] item AK. This is a resolution approving

[30:29] travel expenses for me to attend the

[30:32] LA28 summer local leaders roundt meeting

[30:34] in Long Beach on August 20th. We could

[30:37] take a motion on that.

[30:45] » We have a motion and a second. Cast your

[30:46] votes.

[30:49] Passes unanimously.

[30:51] Um, and then we have item A. This is a

[30:54] resolution approving travel expenses for

[30:56] me to attend the 2026 mayors and police

[30:58] chiefs meeting on September 24th as well

[31:00] as the uh US Conference of Mayors fall

[31:02] leadership meeting on September 24th

[31:04] through 26th in San Diego. Now, we do

[31:06] have someone who signed up to speak

[31:07] Namu.

[31:17] Um hello.

[31:20] So, I actually originally came here for

[31:23] the flock contract renewal, and I know

[31:24] that's been moved, but I also saw this

[31:27] on the agenda. I feel like people there

[31:30] at this conference, uh, there's going to

[31:32] be a lot of people there, a lot of

[31:33] vendors there that weren't our distrust,

[31:36] right? I don't understand why you really

[31:38] need to go to this, uh, especially right

[31:41] now where there's a lot of tension

[31:42] considering a flock vote renewal. It's

[31:44] already expired. I don't understand why

[31:46] you're like continuing to delay this

[31:48] Oh, sorry. excuse my language, but

[31:50] why are you continuing to delay this?

[31:52] Um, going to this is kind of a slap in

[31:55] the face to the uh Oklahoma public. I'm

[31:58] real concerned about what you're going

[31:59] to quotequote learn from this

[32:01] conference. I don't really respect that

[32:04] at all. We're very frustrated with this

[32:07] uh flock renewal and we're very

[32:08] frustrated with what this conference

[32:10] could potentially lead towards, what

[32:12] technologies

[32:14] um I keep seeing stuff pop up

[32:16] everywhere.

[32:18] surveillance devices. I don't know why

[32:20] you're smiling at me. Um, is it

[32:22] entertaining? Real entertaining, huh?

[32:25] » Okay.

[32:28] I'm very frustrated with this. A lot of

[32:30] people in my neighborhood are frustrated

[32:32] with the rise of surveillance devices.

[32:33] This conference, I feel, is a moment

[32:35] where you can learn how to use more of

[32:37] this stuff, more contracts, how to worm

[32:40] your way through this stuff. I am very

[32:43] upset about this.

[32:47] That's all I have to say.

[32:48] » All right. Thank you. We're on item AL

[32:50] and we can take a motion in a second.

[33:03] We have a motion to second. Cast your

[33:04] votes.

[33:07] Passes 8 to one and with the necessary

[33:10] six affirmative votes. Uh item four

[33:13] items from council. We have a couple of

[33:16] travel resolutions here as well. Item 4

[33:18] A is a resolution approving expenses for

[33:21] council members Carter and Stonecipher

[33:23] to attend the National League of Cities

[33:25] in Nashville in November. Take a motion

[33:27] on that.

[33:35] A motion in a second. Cast your votes.

[33:42] passes 8 to1 and with the necessary six

[33:44] affirmative votes. Item 4B is a

[33:46] resolution approving travel expenses for

[33:48] Councilman Carter to attend OML annual

[33:51] conference in Tulsa in September.

[33:58] A motion and a second. Cast your votes.

[34:07] Passes unanimously. Um item five, city

[34:11] manager reports. Mr. City Manager,

[34:14] » Thank you, mayor. Uh we do have the

[34:16] sales and use tax report on uh for this

[34:18] morning. This is our first uh sales tax

[34:20] check for the year for the fiscal year.

[34:23] Started off very strong. We had 4.8%

[34:26] growth in sales tax. Um we had 28%

[34:30] growth in use tax. Uh I want to

[34:34] acknowledge that there was a correction

[34:36] that was made last year for the first

[34:37] five months of the year. Uh there was a

[34:39] vendor that was being remitted to the

[34:41] wrong city that got corrected. Uh I

[34:43] think it was either November or

[34:44] December. So we'll see that offset

[34:47] through this first part of the year.

[34:48] However, even when you when you adjust

[34:51] for that, it's still 17% growth in use

[34:53] tax. You just remember that use tax, we

[34:56] see a lot of variation. There was one

[34:57] major vendor that was recatategorized to

[35:00] another category that's now remitting

[35:02] use tax that previously was categorized

[35:04] as a service uh sector. So there's that

[35:07] may continue on for a few months that we

[35:09] may see that still. Uh so we'll continue

[35:11] to monitor that. It's a really good

[35:13] start overall $1.7 billion above target

[35:16] in month number one. I will caveat just

[35:20] a little bit that in the next month

[35:21] we've got preliminary sales tax numbers

[35:23] and it looks like sales tax is down by

[35:25] about 5.7%

[35:27] next month. But you remember that the

[35:30] finals, the NBA finals in the

[35:31] championship last year really strongly

[35:34] affected our August of last year. I

[35:36] think it was somewhere around 12% growth

[35:38] last year. So that again is an anomaly

[35:41] that's in the data. It will look like

[35:42] it's down. We'll just watch this over

[35:44] the first two, three months and see what

[35:46] the trends tend to be, but it's a great

[35:48] start alto together. Anyway, um and then

[35:50] we have claims and payroll and that can

[35:52] be found on OKC.gov. And that's all that

[35:53] I have.

[35:56] » Thank you. [clears throat] Excuse me.

[35:57] Item six, journal of council

[35:58] proceedings. We have items A and B. We

[36:00] could take with one motion.

[36:06] The motion in a second. Cast your votes.

[36:08] [clears throat]

[36:09] Passes unanimously. Item seven, request

[36:12] for uncontested continuences. Mr. City

[36:14] Manager,

[36:15] » We have several items on today. The

[36:18] first item is on page seven. This is

[36:20] item seven. I'm sorry, this is item 9A.

[36:25] This is the flock contract. We're going

[36:27] to strike this item and we'll bring it

[36:29] back at the next meeting. We have to

[36:31] make an adjustment to We did not get the

[36:35] amended language that we had agreed to.

[36:38] We did not get that amended language

[36:39] onto the agenda. We got to make sure

[36:40] we've got that on there. So, we'll bring

[36:42] that item back at the next meeting. Um,

[36:45] and then on item 11 X,

[36:49] » I'm sorry, 9X

[36:51] on page nine, we're going to strike that

[36:53] item, bring that back at a later date.

[36:57] Item

[36:58] 11 C on page 19 is PUD 21105. That'll be

[37:03] deferred to the 18th of August.

[37:08] Continuing on page 20, item 11D,

[37:12] this is PUD 2124. That also will be

[37:14] deferred to the 18th of August. Then on

[37:18] page 23, item 11P1, unsecured

[37:21] structures. All of these items will be

[37:23] stricken from the agenda. Item B, 4545

[37:26] Kenyon Drive, the owner has secured.

[37:28] Item F, 737 Southwest 48th Street, the

[37:31] owner has secured. And item G, 8405

[37:34] Southwest 49th 49th Circle, the owner

[37:37] has secured. And that's all the items

[37:38] that I have.

[37:42] » All right,

[37:47] we'll now recess the council and convene

[37:48] as the Oklahoma City Municipal

[37:50] Facilities Authority. We do have someone

[37:52] who has signed up to speak on item B on

[37:55] this docket. Steve Hunt,

[38:02] [clears throat]

[38:06] Steve Hunt, 6300 Westbrook. Um, give me

[38:09] just a second here. I'm a little

[38:11] unprepared today.

[38:14] Okay. So,

[38:17] Una Solutions Incorporated uh for the

[38:20] Uni Budget Pro Enterprise Budgeting

[38:22] Platform, a cloud-based software SAS

[38:25] offering including software

[38:26] subscriptions, etc., etc., $890,000

[38:30] minimum. Um, a reporter friend about 10

[38:33] days ago messaged me and said, "Hey,

[38:36] there. Do you know of any private equity

[38:38] firms uh monitoring streets on school

[38:40] buses to find violations and then giving

[38:43] them splitting ticket revenues with

[38:45] municipalities 6040?" I'm like, "Is that

[38:48] bus patrol?" And they're like, "Yeah,

[38:49] that's bus patrol." And then we go on

[38:52] and we're like, "They're owned by GI

[38:53] Partners Private Equity." And um, let's

[38:57] see if there's anything else. Okay, fast

[39:00] forward to uh Friday. I pick up my

[39:03] agenda and then I see Uni Solutions um

[39:07] another SAS that we're given a huge

[39:09] contract to and I look them up and

[39:12] they're owned by uh GI Partners, the

[39:14] people that do bus patrol, the flock

[39:16] camera style [snorts] school bus

[39:19] monitoring um thing. And as I read into

[39:24] the uh the contract and the details of

[39:28] Uni Solutions budget pro enterprise

[39:31] budgeting platform which is basically a

[39:33] glorified excel spreadsheet that we give

[39:35] a million dollars to. They use the same

[39:39] AI systems that they use with bus patrol

[39:43] which as I said is school buses with

[39:47] flock style cameras on them. And as I

[39:50] dug in more and more to this contract,

[39:52] it was pretty awful. On their website,

[39:55] they brag about it uh reducing freedom

[39:58] of information requests 50%.

[40:01] I mean, like, okay, so he we're giving a

[40:05] million dollars to these ghouls, these

[40:07] these bus patrol guy, and bus patrol is

[40:10] the revived corpse of another company,

[40:13] uh, Force Multiplier, which was a part

[40:15] of the biggest scandal in Dallas

[40:17] municipal history. You can look it up.

[40:19] It was 2017. Um, and a lot of the same

[40:22] actors still work for them. Um, you

[40:25] know, I talk a lot about this stuff and

[40:26] there's so much to it. You know, it

[40:28] takes a sentence to tell a lie and 10

[40:30] minutes to debunk it. And the reality of

[40:32] these equity firms is that they are

[40:34] using recovery money to buy all these

[40:37] companies. Uh, Zer policy, quantitative

[40:42] easing, all that money supposed to be

[40:44] used

[40:45] » For us is actually used to buy up all

[40:47] these companies. and UNIA Solutions. I

[40:50] mean, I don't know if anyone looked at

[40:51] it. Uh, I got deep into the contract.

[40:53] Uh, item 29 in the contract talks about

[40:57] how they cut down on freedom of

[41:00] information requests. Their AI goes

[41:02] through everything and puts things into

[41:04] lockboxes and if a citizen requests it,

[41:07] there's a 7-day process with the courts.

[41:10] So, um, I normally speak just for the

[41:13] people out in channel 20 land on YouTube

[41:15] because I know you all kind of I mean,

[41:18] no offense, but I'd like for you to

[41:20] consider because the uh quest for

[41:23] proposals, there were nine others that

[41:25] actually looked.

[41:25] » So, we're on the MFA docket and we have

[41:27] items A through N. We could take with

[41:30] one motion.

[41:37] A motion and a second. Cast your votes.

[41:46] passes unanimously. Now we'll adjourn

[41:49] OCMFA and convene as the Oklahoma City

[41:51] Public Property Authority. Um we do have

[41:54] uh someone who signed up to speak on

[41:56] item E, Brittney Grant.

[42:07] » Good morning, council. My name is

[42:09] Britney Grant. I'm the president of the

[42:10] East End Historic District and

[42:12] underneath Councilman Kamal Pennington

[42:14] in Ward 7. I just want to continue to

[42:16] thank you for your commitment in

[42:18] investing in our corridor to make it

[42:20] more vibrant and welcoming. Um so, and

[42:22] thank you for continuing to be a great

[42:24] partner for with us in the Northeast

[42:26] Historic District.

[42:28] » Thank you.

[42:30] » Uh on item F, we have Rachel Crawford.

[42:44] Good morning, city council. I'm Rachel

[42:45] Crawford, executive director with the

[42:47] Plaza District, and I just wanted to

[42:49] take a moment to tell you thank you so

[42:51] much for the city's support through the

[42:53] commercial district revitalization

[42:55] program of the Plaza District. Wasn't

[42:58] too long ago that in maybe a decade ago,

[43:02] the Plaza District had, if we're

[43:04] counting everybody that's even on the

[43:06] outliers, about 20 businesses. Today, we

[43:08] have 65 businesses in counting within a

[43:11] threeb block stretch. Um, to my

[43:14] estimates, we've increased market value

[43:16] by about 300% over the last five or six

[43:20] years. We do an annual report that we

[43:23] survey our business owners and ask them,

[43:26] you know, how many people do you have

[43:27] employed? Um, how are things going? And

[43:30] we have two nonprofits that help make

[43:32] all of the work possible for what puts

[43:35] us on the map as a great destination in

[43:38] in Oklahoma City. Um, to my estimates,

[43:41] out of those 65 businesses, we generate

[43:44] around 1.7 to 2 million in sales tax

[43:47] revenue. So, I just wanted to come here

[43:50] today to personally say thank you so

[43:52] much. This funding has a tremendous

[43:54] impact, helps keep a lot of businesses

[43:57] open because it allows us to do what we

[43:59] do best, which is hosting events and

[44:02] supporting small business owners. Um, so

[44:05] I just wanted to say thank you so much.

[44:07] » Any big events coming soon?

[44:10] » Yes, actually, uh, next Friday, Skate

[44:12] the Plaza. It's from 5 to 10 p.m. We

[44:15] estimate about 8,000 people will be

[44:16] there. Um, just in case there are other

[44:19] event organizers wondering how do we do

[44:21] it financially, um, we've invested about

[44:24] $2,000 in the event to bring 8,000

[44:26] people to the district, which is a

[44:28] pretty great return. And then if you're

[44:30] free, um, September 26th, we have Plaza

[44:33] Wells Mural Expo and Plaza District

[44:35] Festival. It's the 27th year, so I

[44:37] invite you all to come and check it out.

[44:39] Thank you.

[44:40] » And Rachel, before you leave, um, I just

[44:42] want to thank you. you um have invited

[44:44] me the last few years to the state of

[44:46] the plaza event that you all host and

[44:48] this year I believe is talking about

[44:50] your annual report. You you shared what

[44:52] your annual operating budget is and I

[44:54] was kind of floored by by the amount

[44:57] because of how much how many events you

[44:59] put on, how much activity you all have

[45:01] generated. Can you share that with

[45:03] everyone here what your annual operating

[45:04] budget is?

[45:05] » Yeah, the annual operating budget I've

[45:07] got to add it between both nonprofits.

[45:09] Um, we're looking at about $220,000

[45:13] annual operating budget, and that covers

[45:16] one full-time employee, me, and two

[45:19] part-time, one for marketing assistance

[45:22] and event support, and the other for

[45:24] groundskeeping and maintenance. So, we

[45:26] do on average most of our block parties,

[45:28] we produce for about five or $600, which

[45:31] draws in,

[45:32] » I don't know, anywhere from four or

[45:34] 5,000 people for a small one or 14

[45:36] 15,000 for a large one.

[45:37] » Yeah. I just was like floored cuz I was

[45:39] like, "Oh, surely they have like a

[45:40] million dollar, you know, like they're

[45:42] doing so much." And that I think that

[45:44] just is a testament to how efficient you

[45:47] all are with and and how many volunteers

[45:49] you all engage through your board. Your

[45:50] board is very active from what I

[45:52] understand. And so the ability to really

[45:54] um you know, put on all these events and

[45:58] um I think just goes to show how um how

[46:02] much like love people are putting into

[46:04] the district. So,

[46:05] » Thank you. And we are always looking for

[46:07] board members and volunteers. So if

[46:10] you're interested

[46:10] » And maybe sponsorships

[46:11] » Director plaza district.org.

[46:14] » Um may I [clears throat] have two notes

[46:16] on that. First a note of gratitude. I

[46:20] believe it's the anniversary uh for you

[46:22] recently of uh several years serving in

[46:25] this role.

[46:25] » Yeah. July 29th is 5 years as executive

[46:28] director of the Plaza District.

[46:29] » Congratulations. I thought I saw

[46:30] something on Instagram like that. So I

[46:32] appreciate your service. On

[46:34] Councilwoman's note, and I believe I've

[46:36] mentioned this before, um, and so I'm

[46:39] gonna ask everyone up here to think a

[46:40] little bit outside the box. Um, you

[46:43] know, there was a time, I want to say

[46:45] 2008, when I was in grad school in Still

[46:49] Water and I would come down to visit

[46:51] friends here and I saw the improvements

[46:53] to the Western Avenue district, the

[46:55] infrastructure improvements that really

[46:58] slowed traffic down enough where people

[46:59] started saying, "Wait, I'm going to

[47:01] maybe go to this restaurant, go to this

[47:04] store."

[47:05] Right? It was like the main street

[47:07] revitalization

[47:09] beginning, right?

[47:12] We're now in a place where we have so

[47:14] many successful commercial districts

[47:16] that are tourist destinations that are

[47:19] destinations for our own people. And I

[47:21] think my outside the box ask here

[47:24] building on the numbers we just heard

[47:25] from Rachel and Councilwoman is I would

[47:28] ask the city to start thinking about

[47:30] what does

[47:32] better investing in the economic

[47:36] vitality when it comes to their budgets,

[47:39] their operating budgets. How many staff

[47:42] did you say like paid staff?

[47:44] » Uh three. Two part-time and one

[47:46] full-time. So

[47:48] these three paid folk, two part-time,

[47:52] right, are putting on events that are

[47:56] getting national recognition. The mural,

[47:58] I mean, good lord. And I I just would

[48:03] want us to start thinking less about the

[48:06] big businesses out there that we could

[48:07] be investing in to bring here, which we

[48:09] have, but what happens when we invest in

[48:12] our main streets all across Oklahoma

[48:16] City, whether it's Capitol Hill,

[48:17] Stockyard, FO Plaza, Uptown, 39th

[48:19] Street, Britain District, Windsor

[48:21] District, and really said that, hey, you

[48:24] all have I'm so sorry if I left out. of

[48:27] course know there are more uh but that's

[48:29] kind of my point. There are so many

[48:32] successful, thriving districts in our

[48:34] city um where we've invested in their

[48:37] infrastructure after decades of

[48:39] disinvestment. And I just would really

[48:42] encourage us to think about and I'm

[48:44] going to keep beating the drum. Um what

[48:46] would not not just throwing money at

[48:49] these districts but really sitting down

[48:51] with the district leaders and saying

[48:52] what do you need to ensure that of

[48:55] course we want volunteers but we want to

[48:57] make sure you are viable sustainable uh

[49:01] enduring because it's a sales tax

[49:04] revenue generator for this city when

[49:06] people are going to the different

[49:08] merchants um who took a chance on these

[49:12] districts and I just think that's very

[49:14] important especially especially because

[49:15] what we're doing then is also invest in

[49:17] investing in local people, local workers

[49:20] doing this work from adventure district

[49:22] out to the stockyard. So that's really a

[49:24] thing I want us to be thinking about um

[49:27] and council as well. I just I'm so

[49:29] impressed with the work, but I also know

[49:31] I've seen you all stressed and that's a

[49:35] very human response to the work you're

[49:37] doing and I just would like to see us

[49:38] think a little bit deeper about that. So

[49:40] thank you again for your five years and

[49:42] thank you for your service.

[49:43] » Thank you.

[49:48] Thank you. Now we can proceed to the

[49:50] vote on the PPA agenda items A through

[49:53] I.

[49:58] Have a motion and a second. Cast your

[50:00] votes.

[50:07] Passes unanimously.

[50:10] All right. Right. Now, we'll adjourn

[50:11] OCPA and reconvene as the council where

[50:13] we are on item nine, the consent docket.

[50:16] Um, there are no items currently

[50:18] scheduled for a presentation. Uh, two

[50:20] have been struck as previously

[50:22] indicated. Is there um any item that a

[50:25] council member wishes to pull out for a

[50:27] separate vote or separate comment or

[50:29] question?

[50:35] hearing. None. We'll take a motion on

[50:37] the consent docket. Items A through CP

[50:40] or actually B through CP. A was

[50:42] previously struck. We have a motion and

[50:44] a second. Cast your votes.

[50:48] Passes unanimously. Now we're on item

[50:50] 10, the concurrence docket. We have

[50:52] items A through P. We could take with

[50:55] one motion.

[51:01] A motion and a second. Cast your votes.

[51:07] passes unanimously. Item 11 A, we're on

[51:11] item 11, which is items for individual

[51:12] consideration. Item 11 A is an ordinance

[51:14] on final hearing recommended for

[51:16] approval resoning 1636 Southwest 35th

[51:19] from R1 to C3. Uh, Councilwoman Hammond,

[51:23] no one is signed to speak, and that

[51:24] statement is true for all of the zoning

[51:26] cases today.

[51:27] » Okay. Um I will this was um a recommend

[51:31] for approval by planning uh staff and uh

[51:35] unanimous support by the planning

[51:37] commission. So I will move for approval.

[51:46] We have a motion and a second. Cast your

[51:47] votes.

[51:53] Passes unanimously.

[51:58] Oh, I don't know what's going on there,

[51:59] but this is working. So, 11B uh is an

[52:03] ordinance on final hearing. It was

[52:04] recommended for approval reszoning 25

[52:06] southwest 50th from SPUD 1448 to R2.

[52:12] Councilman Stone, known as signed to

[52:13] speak, uh although someone has signed up

[52:15] to speak for a much later case and I

[52:17] will bring that up at that time, but

[52:18] yours is clear. Go ahead.

[52:20] » All right. Thank you, mayor. Um this is

[52:23] basically a single residential

[52:26] duplex uh development overrun 50th in

[52:29] Santa Fe. So uh

[52:32] city nodded for its approval as well as

[52:34] the planning commission. So I'll go

[52:35] ahead and move for its approval.

[52:45] All right, we have a motion and a

[52:46] second. Cast your votes.

[52:52] passes unanimously. Items C and D were

[52:55] previously struck, which brings us to

[52:56] item E. Um item E2 is an ordinance on

[53:00] final hearing that was recommended for

[53:01] approval resoning 4200 Southwest 29th

[53:03] from I2 and AE2 to PUD 2134 and AE2. Um

[53:08] item E1 is an amendment to the master

[53:11] design statement relative uh to this

[53:14] item. This item was deferred uh on three

[53:16] previous occasions and councilwoman

[53:19] avers no one assigned to speak.

[53:23] » Um Mark, if you want to present the

[53:25] amendments.

[53:26] » Sure. Uh good morning. Mark Zitzau with

[53:28] Johnson and Associates. Address is one

[53:30] Sheran Avenue. Uh this is a a multif

[53:32] family project uh at Meridian and 29th

[53:35] Street. Uh in addition to the amendments

[53:37] that were just uh noticed, we're going

[53:41] to add two additional TEES uh to the

[53:43] project. The first one is replacing the

[53:46] fencing language. And so just for

[53:48] simplicity, I'll just I'll read it in in

[53:50] its entirety. No less than an 8 foot

[53:53] high sight proof fence shall be required

[53:55] along the east, west, and south boundary

[53:58] PUB boundaries and shall not be required

[54:00] along Southwest 29th. said sight proof

[54:02] screen should be a horizontal aluminum

[54:04] fence and shall be reviewed at the

[54:06] specific plan stage. The second TE that

[54:09] our client agreed to would be

[54:11] notifications requiring nearby

[54:13] industrial operations will be included

[54:14] in leasing documents.

[54:18] » Happy to answer any questions.

[54:20] » Thank you. Um so this is a a development

[54:24] that is had required a comp plan

[54:26] amendment. So, we added added some tees

[54:28] to address potential compatibility

[54:30] issues both for the the new residents as

[54:33] well as the existing neighbors. And I do

[54:37] I need to make a motion to amend and

[54:40] then do a motion to approve. Okay. So,

[54:41] I'd like to make a motion to accept the

[54:43] amendments as read by Mark.

[54:47] » I'm sorry, what was the what was the

[54:49] statement? You

[54:50] » Motion to amend um the TEES as read by

[54:54] the applicant.

[54:55] » Okay. Okay. So, this is in addition to

[54:57] E1, right? This is a

[55:00] » All right. We've got that motion. Why

[55:02] don't we bring it up for a

[55:04] virtual motion?

[55:07] And I don't know. Is that what's showing

[55:08] on the other side as well? Okay.

[55:10] » So, if I can get a second.

[55:12] » Oh, we're not working either.

[55:14] » Okay. All right. So, we need a verbal

[55:17] second. We've got a verbal motion.

[55:20] » And then you said we can raise hands on

[55:21] the votes.

[55:23] » Yes.

[55:23] » Okay.

[55:24] » All right. So, uh, all in favor of the

[55:28] amendment just moved, please raise your

[55:31] hand.

[55:34] » Okay. Um, it's self-evident that all

[55:36] hands were raised, so I won't even call

[55:38] for a nay. Um, passes unanimously. And

[55:41] that leaves us with

[55:42] » A motion to approve.

[55:44] » You want to do E1, the amendment to the

[55:46] master design statement.

[55:47] » Or was that do I

[55:48] » Have to do them separately?

[55:50] » I don't know. I got I wasn't clear if

[55:51] that was I got the impression that was a

[55:53] different amendment. what you just

[55:54] proposed. So that you still want the

[55:56] amendment to the master design.

[55:57] » Yes, sir.

[55:58] » Okay.

[55:58] » Thank you.

[55:59] » All right. So this is uh so we have a

[56:01] motion. Is there a second for E1?

[56:03] » Second.

[56:03] » All right. We have a motion and a

[56:05] second. All in favor raise your hand.

[56:09] » All right. All unanimous. Passes

[56:12] unanimously. Now we're on E2. Do you

[56:15] wish to make a motion for that? Council

[56:17] eliminators.

[56:22] » Yes. Motion to approve, please.

[56:24] » All right. Second.

[56:25] » We have a motion and a second. All in

[56:27] favor of item E2, raise your hand.

[56:32] » All right. Passes unanimously.

[56:34] Okay. Working so far.

[56:38] Item uh F is an ordinance on final

[56:40] hearing. It was recommended for approval

[56:42] resoning 10324 Southwest 29th from R1 to

[56:46] PUD2143A.

[56:48] Councilwoman Avers. No one has signed up

[56:50] to speak.

[56:51] » Thank you. This was excellently

[56:53] coordinated in advance of application.

[56:54] So motion to approve.

[56:58] » I'm sorry. Did you say you move it?

[56:59] » Motion to approve.

[57:00] » All right. Is there a second?

[57:03] » Second.

[57:04] » Got a motion and a second. All in favor,

[57:06] raise your hand.

[57:09] » Passes unanimously.

[57:11] Item G is an ordinance on final hearing.

[57:13] It was recommended for approval.

[57:15] Reszoning 2844 Lancaster Lane from R1 to

[57:18] SPD 1816.

[57:21] Uh, Councilman Cooper, no assigned to

[57:23] speak.

[57:24] » Yes, but the applicant is here, right? I

[57:26] would like to have a bit of a public

[57:30] understanding of this reasonzoning,

[57:32] please.

[57:37] Morning. David Box, 525 Northwest 11th

[57:40] Street. Here on behalf of the applicant,

[57:42] this is one uh that we actually went to

[57:43] planning commission twice. Uh my client

[57:46] during the appendency of this

[57:47] application was able to acquire the

[57:49] balance of the land to square this off.

[57:51] So uh worked extensively with

[57:53] Commissioner Powers on this. It's really

[57:55] if you if you think of May Avenue north

[57:58] of 63rd Street, this is really the last

[58:00] piece of non-commercial property. Um so

[58:03] we've limited uses, we have limited uh

[58:06] impacts through speaker box separation,

[58:08] landscape buffers, and building

[58:10] setbacks. Uh there was no protest and

[58:12] was recommended for approval unanimously

[58:14] by planning commission.

[58:16] » Can we go back to that screen please?

[58:22] » Okay.

[58:28] Well, I'm glad to see the parking not so

[58:31] prioritized at the front of May like

[58:34] that. I think that's that's good. So,

[58:36] it's an improvement on what I often see

[58:38] over there. All right. Well, I'll move

[58:40] for approval. Do I need to do that

[58:41] verbally? Are we back to screens?

[58:46] » Okay.

[58:46] » Oh, we might be working again. Go ahead.

[58:49] » Something about W two.

[58:52] » We don't see anything on our side of

[58:54] things at that.

[58:54] » All right. Well, we have a motion in a

[58:56] second. Cast your votes. We'll let you

[58:58] know how it ends.

[59:05] » Okay.

[59:15] All right. Passes unanimously. Thank

[59:17] you.

[59:19] » Okay. Now we're on item uh H. This is an

[59:22] ordinance on final hearing. It was

[59:23] recommended for approval reszoning 3000

[59:25] Northwest 150th from SPD848

[59:29] and PUD 302 to SPUD1 1831.

[59:34] Councilman Stone Cipher known as sign of

[59:36] speech.

[59:37] Planning approved. I'm aware of no

[59:40] protesters. So, at this time, I'd move

[59:41] for approval. And by the way, your

[59:44] honor, on the next item, I'm going to

[59:45] have to recuse on behalf of my firm.

[59:47] » Okay.

[59:56] Have a motion, a second. Cast your

[59:57] votes.

[1:00:02] No,

[1:00:03] » We can vote here. This good enough for

[1:00:09] » Passes unanimously.

[1:00:12] All right. Now we're on item I. This is

[1:00:15] an ordinance on final hearing. It was

[1:00:16] recommended for approval reszoning 3131

[1:00:19] Northwest 192nd from 01 to SPD 1840.

[1:00:24] This was deferred on July 21st. And

[1:00:27] Councilman Carter, I understand uh you

[1:00:29] will handle this item. Um and no one

[1:00:32] assigned actually. Yes, sir.

[1:00:34] » Scratch that. Tom Bowling has signed up

[1:00:35] to speak. I don't know his status with

[1:00:38] this project.

[1:00:39] » Are you the applicant?

[1:00:41] » Excuse me.

[1:00:41] » Are you the applicant?

[1:00:42] » No.

[1:00:43] » Oh, okay.

[1:00:44] » He's the one that you just called.

[1:00:46] » Yeah.

[1:00:46] » But I mean, are you Tom Bowling? Are you

[1:00:48] the applicant or are you protesting?

[1:00:50] » I'm protesting.

[1:00:51] » Oh, okay. So, maybe we want to hear from

[1:00:52] the applicant first

[1:00:53] » Since he's here. Let's listen to him

[1:00:55] first. David will go with you next. All

[1:00:57] right. Am

[1:00:58] » I up here too early?

[1:00:59] » Go ahead. You have three minutes.

[1:01:05] trying to see a picture come up and you

[1:01:06] got a picture of the

[1:01:07] » Oh, uh, maybe.

[1:01:08] » Okay. what what I should have done since

[1:01:10] I don't know what I'm doing. I guess you

[1:01:12] could say [laughter] we've got a

[1:01:13] development going on the west side of

[1:01:14] the property and we're protesting this

[1:01:17] because when we started building these

[1:01:20] homes right across the fence to the

[1:01:22] west, they're nicer homes, high energy

[1:01:24] efficient

[1:01:26] and now all a sudden here they're coming

[1:01:29] in with these twotory duplexes that was

[1:01:32] going to be twotory office buildings.

[1:01:34] people that won't have no privacy at

[1:01:36] night for the swimming pool. Everybody

[1:01:39] with nicer homes are want swimming pools

[1:01:41] in their backyards. Well, if they build

[1:01:43] a swimming pool in the backyard, these

[1:01:45] people in their twotory duplexes and be

[1:01:48] overlooking the swimming pool.

[1:01:52] So,

[1:01:54] how can we end up helping these people

[1:01:56] keep their privacy

[1:01:59] over this?

[1:02:01] I heard that uh everybody's tried to get

[1:02:03] them to build a little bit higher

[1:02:04] quality duplexes, which I appreciate

[1:02:07] that because we got restrictions on our

[1:02:08] property. Also,

[1:02:11] if there's any way we can keep the

[1:02:13] duplexes from having windows on the west

[1:02:16] side of the building or even ask them to

[1:02:18] put in a taller fence.

[1:02:21] You know, we can't stop people from

[1:02:23] building what the city allows them to

[1:02:24] build, but we've already got five homes

[1:02:28] being built. are already built in this

[1:02:30] area

[1:02:32] trying to sell them and now we end up

[1:02:34] having the twotory duplexes come in.

[1:02:36] Who's going to want to buy them?

[1:02:42] So in this restriction, the buildings

[1:02:45] could be set in accordance to this

[1:02:48] drawing. If they had moved building

[1:02:49] five, six, and seven further to the east

[1:02:52] and put the parking on the other side,

[1:02:54] that would actually give more privacy.

[1:02:59] you know, building eight and nine is not

[1:03:01] so much of a problem, but yet again, I

[1:03:04] don't know if the visual end up coming

[1:03:06] into the back yards of the building.

[1:03:10] So, I'm just asking the city to help us

[1:03:13] restrict what these other people end up

[1:03:16] being seeing in our backyards.

[1:03:22] » Okay. Are you are you done?

[1:03:24] » No. You know, if we can if id known what

[1:03:26] I know now, I should have bring in a

[1:03:28] plaque for y'all to see what's actually

[1:03:29] going on.

[1:03:32] I don't know if we can put this off for

[1:03:33] another month till the next meeting. I

[1:03:35] end up getting a better drawing for you

[1:03:37] so you can see what's going on or what

[1:03:39] can we do here?

[1:03:41] » Did you appear at planning commission?

[1:03:43] » Excuse me.

[1:03:43] » Did you appear at planning commission?

[1:03:46] » Do I appear at him?

[1:03:47] » Did you go to the meeting when this was

[1:03:48] considered and and

[1:03:49] » No, sir. I didn't.

[1:03:50] » Okay.

[1:03:50] » I didn't know about it.

[1:03:51] » Just curious. All right.

[1:03:53] » Thank you, Mr. Ren. Let's listen to the

[1:03:54] the applicant now.

[1:03:58] » Look at what

[1:03:59] » If you wouldn't mind having to see right

[1:04:00] there. We're going to listen to the

[1:04:01] applicant.

[1:04:03] » Good morning. David Box, 525 Northwest

[1:04:05] 11th Street here on behalf of the

[1:04:06] applicant. So, could you go to the

[1:04:08] zoning map, Jared, please? Th this is a

[1:04:11] an area of northwest Oklahoma City that

[1:04:13] has really a broad mix of different

[1:04:15] types of uses. So, uh immediately to the

[1:04:17] south is the Grove. It's a 640 acre

[1:04:20] development that has everything from a

[1:04:22] small lot single family to an elementary

[1:04:24] school and then significant commercial

[1:04:26] along Portland. Uh to the east you have

[1:04:28] R1ZL and then if you go to May Avenue on

[1:04:30] the northeast corner as well as the

[1:04:32] southeast corner you have largecale

[1:04:34] multifamily apartment projects that

[1:04:36] exist. Here we have this kind of random

[1:04:38] triangle of land that's zoned office. Um

[1:04:41] there's not a whole lot of viability for

[1:04:43] an odd-shaped office tract north of

[1:04:46] 192nd Street. So, what we're hoping to

[1:04:48] do on these approximately nine uh excuse

[1:04:50] me, two and a half acres is just put

[1:04:52] nine duplexes. Um we believe duplex to

[1:04:55] be compatible, frankly more compatible

[1:04:56] than what the current 01 use would be.

[1:04:59] In terms of twotory, that's an argument

[1:05:00] that is constantly made by uh

[1:05:03] protesters. Single family residential

[1:05:05] allows twotory uh twotory, single family

[1:05:08] residential next to residential

[1:05:10] compatible. We believe twotory duplex

[1:05:12] next to single family is also

[1:05:14] compatible. staff recommended uh

[1:05:16] approval of this. There was one

[1:05:17] technical evaluation that we agreed to.

[1:05:19] Uh so we would ask that you uh approve

[1:05:21] this in the same manner the planning

[1:05:23] commission did. Happy to answer any

[1:05:24] questions.

[1:05:26] » The duplexes are allowed in 01.

[1:05:28] » No, this is this would take away the 01

[1:05:31] and put in a spud with duplex allowance.

[1:05:34] » Thank you for clearing that up.

[1:05:38] Okay.

[1:05:43] And what is the TE the

[1:05:46] » I'm sorry I was just handed this this

[1:05:47] morning so I'm wanting to kind of double

[1:05:49] check.

[1:05:49] » Yeah. So the the TE uh dealt with um the

[1:05:53] dumpster location

[1:05:55] » If we had dumpsters and then TE2 was

[1:05:57] added by planning commission to um

[1:05:59] increase the architectural standards

[1:06:01] within the SPED which I think is

[1:06:03] significant. Um you know base zoning as

[1:06:06] it relates to residential has no

[1:06:07] architectural standards. Um so we

[1:06:10] through planning commission and the TE

[1:06:11] and now the SPUD have heightened

[1:06:13] architectural standards from what would

[1:06:14] be required under traditional R1 or R2.

[1:06:17] » Okay.

[1:06:20] » So with recommendation from staff as

[1:06:22] well as planning commission then we're

[1:06:24] going to go ahead and let this move us

[1:06:26] forward and move for approval.

[1:06:32] » Can I may I [clears throat] ask a

[1:06:33] question?

[1:06:35] Yeah.

[1:06:36] » Um, I'm looking at our two former

[1:06:38] planning commissioners right now. Uh, do

[1:06:41] you have do y'all have thoughts? I mean,

[1:06:43] I'm not trying to step of course on I

[1:06:45] know councilman asked you to carry it.

[1:06:47] I'm just curious

[1:06:47] » If it was zoned R1, they'd be able to

[1:06:50] build a two-story house by right and we

[1:06:52] wouldn't even be here right now. So, if

[1:06:54] it had the exact same zoning as this

[1:06:56] gentleman's property, they would have

[1:06:58] the ability to build two stories and we

[1:06:59] wouldn't question it. I think the only

[1:07:01] thing to I don't know how how how big is

[1:07:03] the setback between

[1:07:05] » 18 approximately 18 feet from the west.

[1:07:07] » Okay. So that's a pretty good distance.

[1:07:09] Um

[1:07:10] » And even with a twotory whether it be a

[1:07:12] house or a duplex if we added an

[1:07:13] extra-large fence that's not going to be

[1:07:16] tall enough to to block anything. So I

[1:07:18] don't want to put that restriction

[1:07:18] [music] on.

[1:07:20] » So I didn't see anything that we could

[1:07:22] actually do in this sense. Am I wrong?

[1:07:24] » It's difficult. I mean you could we

[1:07:25] could require them to uh what do they

[1:07:28] call it? Like frost the windows. Haven't

[1:07:30] we done that before?

[1:07:31] » Um, but again,

[1:07:34] I it doesn't really sound very

[1:07:37] compatible.

[1:07:37] » We have three story complex across the

[1:07:40] street.

[1:07:40] » Uh, so south and east at 192nd May, you

[1:07:43] have an existing apartment complex at

[1:07:45] the souththeast corner. You have zoning

[1:07:48] entitled to allow a three-story

[1:07:50] apartment complex on the northeast

[1:07:52] corner

[1:07:53] in the front. I mean, you know, I get

[1:07:55] your point. You know, that that is an

[1:07:56] avenue, but that really gets into is

[1:07:58] this incompatible? It's like, well, why

[1:07:59] should the duplex people be frosted?

[1:08:02] Like, we're afraid of the duplex people

[1:08:04] looking at us, but the single family

[1:08:05] people

[1:08:07] » Could look at us. Apartments sometimes

[1:08:09] that happens. Duplex to single family

[1:08:11] that those are compatible uses.

[1:08:14] » And any house north or south of it could

[1:08:16] be twotory staring down into the

[1:08:18] backyard of their next door neighbor as

[1:08:20] well.

[1:08:22] » So, it's not necessarily just what's to

[1:08:24] the east of it. It could be your next

[1:08:25] door neighbor builds a two-story house,

[1:08:27] » Right?

[1:08:29] I just wanted to hear people with

[1:08:31] planning commission background speak to

[1:08:33] the gentleman's concerns. Um I didn't

[1:08:36] want it to seem like we were just boot

[1:08:37] scooting right past that. So that's all.

[1:08:40] Thanks.

[1:08:43] » Okay. So we have a motion and a second

[1:08:45] for this item. Item I cast your votes.

[1:08:51] » I say one more thing.

[1:08:54] » We're voting now, sir. I'm sorry

[1:08:57] it's a little late.

[1:08:58] » Thank you. Passes unanimously.

[1:09:01] » I'll say it anyway. They have full

[1:09:03] parking [snorts] and street going around

[1:09:04] their perimeters of their apartments in

[1:09:06] between their apartments and adjoining

[1:09:08] facilities.

[1:09:10] » Okay.

[1:09:10] » So,

[1:09:11] » Thank you. Item J is an ordinance on

[1:09:13] final hearing. It was recommended for

[1:09:15] approval reszoning 2800 North Oklahoma

[1:09:17] Avenue from R4 to SPD 1842.

[1:09:21] Councilman Pennington, no one has signed

[1:09:22] to speak.

[1:09:25] Thank you, mayor. Um, this is just

[1:09:27] taking some R4 zoning and moving it into

[1:09:30] industrial that's more compatible with

[1:09:32] the immediate surrounding area. So, I'm

[1:09:34] going to move approval.

[1:09:41] We have a motion, a second. Cast your

[1:09:42] votes.

[1:09:49] Passes unanimously. Item K is an

[1:09:51] ordinance on final hearing. It was

[1:09:52] recommended for approval. Reszoning 5902

[1:09:54] Eperly Drive from R1 to SPD 1844.

[1:09:59] Councilman Stone, no one has signed up

[1:10:01] to speak.

[1:10:02] » Thank you, Mayor. Um, this is basically

[1:10:04] a storage unit off of, uh, Southeast

[1:10:07] 59th over close to Eperly, uh,

[1:10:09] recommended by the city and the planning

[1:10:11] commission. So, I'll move for its

[1:10:12] approval.

[1:10:17] All right, we have a motion and a

[1:10:18] second. Cast your votes.

[1:10:27] passes unanimously. Item L is an

[1:10:30] ordinance on final hearing. It was

[1:10:31] recommended for approval establishing a

[1:10:32] special permit to operate use unit

[1:10:34] 83000.33

[1:10:36] drinking establishment in the I2 and DP

[1:10:40] uh overlay districts at 500 Southwestern

[1:10:44] Council. Woman Hammond is not here.

[1:10:48] Okay. Well, maybe we'll um table that

[1:10:50] for a moment. see if she returns. Uh,

[1:10:52] item M is an ordinance on final hearing

[1:10:54] recommended for approval closing a

[1:10:56] portion of a north south uh, utility

[1:10:58] easement on lot one in block seven of

[1:11:00] the lakes at Anacey phase one. Um,

[1:11:04] Councilman Stone Cipher,

[1:11:12] » No.

[1:11:12] » Okay. Um, I'd move for approval.

[1:11:20] Have a motion and a second. Cast your

[1:11:21] votes.

[1:11:28] Passes unanimously.

[1:11:31] All right. Um item 11N is an ordinance

[1:11:35] to be introduced. It's set for a final

[1:11:37] hearing on September 1st. Uh this

[1:11:39] relates to our zoning and planning code.

[1:11:42] Specifically, I think solar energy. I do

[1:11:45] believe we have a presentation. Go

[1:11:47] ahead. Tio Bowman with the

[1:11:49] sustainability office. Uh this adds

[1:11:52] definitions and use regulations,

[1:11:53] accessory use regulations for solar

[1:11:55] energy systems. Presently we don't have

[1:11:57] a definition and it requires applicants

[1:11:59] to seek a variance in design districts.

[1:12:01] So um UDC um DDC and planning commission

[1:12:05] all recommended unanimous unanimous

[1:12:07] approval. Um and so I'll happy to answer

[1:12:09] any questions.

[1:12:14] » Seeing no questions. Thank you, Tio. I

[1:12:16] think we could probably proceed with

[1:12:18] introduction

[1:12:20] if there's a motion

[1:12:24] with a motion and a second. Cast your

[1:12:27] votes.

[1:12:43] Passes unanimously. Okay, we're going to

[1:12:45] back up now to item L. This was the uh

[1:12:48] previously described ordinance on final

[1:12:51] hearing in W six. And I understand

[1:12:53] Councilman Cooper will present this.

[1:12:55] » Yeah. Is the applicant present for that?

[1:12:57] [clears throat]

[1:12:58] » Getting those steps in. We don't do that

[1:13:00] enough.

[1:13:02] » That's what I hear from data.

[1:13:09] » Good morning. David Box, 525 Northwest

[1:13:11] 11th Street. uh here on behalf of the

[1:13:13] applicant. This is to allow for the use

[1:13:15] unit necessary for uh a bar as well as

[1:13:17] the u uh necessary provisions for the

[1:13:20] outdoor um food truck. No protest

[1:13:24] planning commission recommended

[1:13:25] approval.

[1:13:27] Let me go back to that previous

[1:13:30] Oh, cool. Okay. Well, I've been asked to

[1:13:33] move this forward and I shall

[1:13:52] Motion in a second. Cast your votes.

[1:13:58] » Pass unanimously.

[1:14:00] All right. Back into order, which brings

[1:14:03] us to item O. O1 is a public hearing

[1:14:05] regarding the dilapidated structure here

[1:14:07] listed. Amy, has anyone signed up to

[1:14:09] speak?

[1:14:09] » No, they haven't.

[1:14:10] » Not. So, we will advance to the

[1:14:12] resolution at O2 declaring that the

[1:14:14] structure is dilapidated.

[1:14:18] » I have a motion and a second. Cast your

[1:14:19] votes.

[1:14:30] Passes unanimously. Item 11 P1 is the

[1:14:33] public hearing regarding the unsecured

[1:14:34] structures here listed except for those

[1:14:36] previously struck. Jamie, has anyone

[1:14:37] signed up to speak?

[1:14:37] » No, they haven't.

[1:14:38] » They have not. So, we'll advance to the

[1:14:40] resolution found at P2 declaring

[1:14:41] structures are unsecured.

[1:14:45] » We have motion and a second. Cast your

[1:14:47] votes.

[1:14:53] » Passes unanimously. Q1 is the public

[1:14:55] hearing regarding the abandoned building

[1:14:56] here listed. Uh Amy, has anyone time to

[1:14:58] speak?

[1:14:59] » No, they haven't.

[1:14:59] » They have not. So, we'll advance to the

[1:15:00] resolution at Q2 declaring that the

[1:15:02] building is abandoned.

[1:15:10] A motion, a second. Cast your votes.

[1:15:22] Counciloman Avers, if you Thanks.

[1:15:29] Passes unanimously.

[1:15:32] All right. Uh 11R is a joint resolution

[1:15:36] with the Oklahoma City Economic

[1:15:37] Development Trust uh approving the

[1:15:39] allocation of geo limited tax bond

[1:15:41] proceeds in an amount not to exceed $3

[1:15:44] million for the Shane affordable housing

[1:15:48] project near Hefner and county line. And

[1:15:51] uh we have a presentation.

[1:15:52] » Yes. Joanna Mcbaden, our economic

[1:15:54] development manager, will introduce this

[1:15:56] item.

[1:15:56] » Yeah. Hi. Uh Joanna Mcpaden, finance

[1:15:58] department. Um, I just wanted to do a

[1:16:00] quick introduction on both of these next

[1:16:01] two items. This will be the first

[1:16:03] allocations of the new affordable

[1:16:06] housing bond money. Um, they're both

[1:16:09] structured as a payback loan rather than

[1:16:11] the forgivable loan that you guys have

[1:16:12] seen in the past. Um, they'll be paid

[1:16:15] back after their tax credit funding

[1:16:16] period. Kathy Okconor is going to

[1:16:18] present on both and give you a

[1:16:20] description of the projects. So, let us

[1:16:21] know if you have questions.

[1:16:28] Thank you. I'm Kathy O' Conor with the

[1:16:30] Coalign Group and I'm here on behalf of

[1:16:33] the Dominium Development Group today to

[1:16:35] talk to you about the Shane affordable

[1:16:37] housing project. Um this project is go

[1:16:40] on to the next slide. Um just a little

[1:16:43] bit about the developer. Dominium is um

[1:16:46] got a few projects going here in the

[1:16:48] state and in Oklahoma City. They have

[1:16:50] over 50 years of experience in

[1:16:52] developing, owning, and managing

[1:16:54] affordable housing projects nationwide.

[1:16:57] They have over 40,000 apartment homes in

[1:17:00] 20 plus community, 200 220 communities

[1:17:04] across the state. They are long-term

[1:17:06] owners. They hold most of their projects

[1:17:08] for 20 to 30 years. And they are a

[1:17:11] vertically integrated company. That

[1:17:13] means that they have the construction,

[1:17:15] the architecture, property management,

[1:17:18] compliance, and asset management all in

[1:17:20] house in their company.

[1:17:22] The project that we're talking about

[1:17:24] today is the Shane. It's located at um

[1:17:26] West Hefner Road and County Line Road um

[1:17:30] along Northwest Highway. It's about 412.

[1:17:34] It is 412 units that include 14

[1:17:38] apartment buildings and 88 town homes.

[1:17:41] they have applied and have qualified for

[1:17:44] the 4% low-income housing tax credit.

[1:17:46] So, we will be leveraging those tax

[1:17:48] credits with the city's um affordable

[1:17:51] housing loan fund.

[1:17:53] Go ahead. This is a site plan for the

[1:17:56] project. You can see the layout of the

[1:17:58] various units and the town homes.

[1:18:02] Again, the location. Um, one of the

[1:18:04] things that's important in a tax credit

[1:18:06] application is you point out what

[1:18:07] amenities are near your project. And

[1:18:09] this one is in the Piedmont school

[1:18:11] district. It's nearby to shopping parks,

[1:18:14] Lake Hefner, good highway access, and

[1:18:17] the and the patients ladding library.

[1:18:22] This is a breakdown of the units. Um you

[1:18:24] can see that it's a variety of two,

[1:18:26] three, and four bedrooms. Um and the

[1:18:29] average rents range from about $1,200 a

[1:18:32] month to four to little bit under $1,600

[1:18:36] a month for the fourbedroom units.

[1:18:38] Again,

[1:18:41] a breakdown of our budget. Um, the total

[1:18:43] budget for the project is is a little

[1:18:45] bit over $156 million.

[1:18:48] Um, that comes out to a per unit cost,

[1:18:52] which is kind of amazing, of $379,000

[1:18:55] a unit. But these projects um typically

[1:18:58] have some um soft costs and things that

[1:19:01] are not commonly found in regular um

[1:19:04] apartment projects.

[1:19:06] Our

[1:19:08] affordable housing request is a $2

[1:19:10] million uh loan in the first trunch that

[1:19:13] would have an 8% interest rate and then

[1:19:15] the second loan I mean a 0% interest

[1:19:18] rate and then the second trunch would be

[1:19:19] a $1 million loan with an 8% interest

[1:19:22] rate. Both of these would be uh

[1:19:25] co-terminus with the affordable housing

[1:19:29] compli tax credit compliance period

[1:19:31] which means that it'll be about 18 years

[1:19:34] and repaid at the time of sale or

[1:19:37] refinance of the project. So with a

[1:19:38] affordable housing um low-income housing

[1:19:41] tax credits, you have a 15-year

[1:19:43] compliance period, but that doesn't

[1:19:45] start until the units are constructed

[1:19:48] and leased up. So it usually is around

[1:19:51] 18 years. um that we're looking at to

[1:19:54] pay these loans back.

[1:19:56] » And Kathy, does that for the 18 years,

[1:19:59] is that how long you have to the owners

[1:20:01] have to maintain that affordability? And

[1:20:03] so after that, they're no longer

[1:20:04] required to do it.

[1:20:06] » And and typically what they do is they

[1:20:08] refinance with another low-inccome

[1:20:10] housing tax credit

[1:20:12] allocation and extend the affordability.

[1:20:16] Most of these units will be affordable

[1:20:17] for 30 years. Gotcha.

[1:20:23] I think Kathy, so is the um is the term

[1:20:27] loan is that whenever it's paid back in

[1:20:29] full or is it a lump sum in 18 years?

[1:20:32] » There are interest payments that are

[1:20:34] made during the term of the loan on the

[1:20:37] 8% interest rate trunch of it. Um but

[1:20:41] the the principal and any remaining

[1:20:44] interest would be paid at the at the end

[1:20:46] of the term. Well, I like I like the

[1:20:48] approach that's being taken with this

[1:20:50] administration so that it can really

[1:20:51] reinvest and create essentially a

[1:20:53] cycling fund. Is that the intent?

[1:20:55] » Yeah. Yes. I think that's the city's

[1:20:56] intent.

[1:20:57] » Yes.

[1:21:00] » Um,

[1:21:01] » Any other questions?

[1:21:02] » I don't

[1:21:04] Well, I guess I could make it as a

[1:21:06] question. Can you help me understand

[1:21:09] this location? Like why the developer

[1:21:11] chose Heapner and County Line? Well,

[1:21:14] because it's in a it's a good location

[1:21:17] for schools. It's in a very good school

[1:21:19] district. Um the property was already

[1:21:21] zoned multif family um and on the market

[1:21:24] for purchase. So, I think that that had

[1:21:27] a lot to do with how they selected it.

[1:21:29] And um JT Martin is here with the

[1:21:33] developer. He may be able to help me

[1:21:34] with this, but I believe it's also in

[1:21:35] what's called a QCT. So, it's in a

[1:21:37] qualified census track for the program.

[1:21:40] Um, so it it scores better when you go

[1:21:43] through OFA for the tax credit process.

[1:21:47] » I'm happy to provide some additional

[1:21:48] context there and it's a a good

[1:21:49] question, something I appreciate when

[1:21:51] people ask. Um, my name is JT Marty. I

[1:21:53] work with Dominium. Um, we're multif

[1:21:55] family developer based out of Dallas and

[1:21:57] have a couple other projects going on in

[1:21:58] Oklahoma City. So, it's somewhere we're

[1:21:59] really invested in and really appreciate

[1:22:01] coming up too. Um, in regards to your

[1:22:03] question, I think that there's a couple

[1:22:05] pieces. You know, Kathy mentioned first

[1:22:06] how the project was zoned for multif

[1:22:08] family. Um, which is kind of the first

[1:22:10] thing, you know, it's a project that we

[1:22:12] can get done, but from a demographic

[1:22:13] standpoint, Dominium, um, we've been

[1:22:15] around for 50 years and we're really

[1:22:17] concerned about the longevity of our

[1:22:18] assets. And so, a lot of developers will

[1:22:21] typically develop, especially in the

[1:22:23] affordable housing space, develop

[1:22:24] somewhere where they can make a bunch of

[1:22:26] money of a developer fee and then kind

[1:22:27] of just walk off and not really like

[1:22:30] keep up with the the asset over time. um

[1:22:33] with a lot of deferred maintenance and

[1:22:34] just kind of some of the problems that

[1:22:36] come to your mind when you hear the word

[1:22:37] affordable housing. And something about

[1:22:39] Dominion that's a little unique is we

[1:22:41] like to develop in communities that

[1:22:42] otherwise our residents wouldn't be able

[1:22:44] to afford to live in. And so from our

[1:22:46] research um in this area, our rent would

[1:22:49] save the residents about $300 a month.

[1:22:51] Um and so there's not really other

[1:22:53] options to live in this side of town in

[1:22:55] the Pedmont school district in these

[1:22:57] larger town homes that we're building on

[1:22:58] part of the site um anywhere in town.

[1:23:00] And then also just the connectivity to

[1:23:02] the interstate, the ability to get

[1:23:04] through the whole metro pretty quickly

[1:23:06] is important to us. Like 400 units is a

[1:23:08] lot of apartments that we're all aware

[1:23:11] of. And so the ability to be able to,

[1:23:13] you know, get down to the southwest

[1:23:14] corner into the industrial pocket, but

[1:23:16] also, you know, traverse the metro

[1:23:18] pretty easily is another selling point.

[1:23:20] The the main summary is just that the

[1:23:21] demographics in this area really strong.

[1:23:23] There's a lot of single family homes

[1:23:24] being developed to our north. Um there's

[1:23:26] a new single family home community to

[1:23:28] our east that just developed. So it's

[1:23:29] just a a growing area. and there's not a

[1:23:31] lot of land that's undeveloped within

[1:23:33] the the loop and so it's just something

[1:23:35] we're excited about.

[1:23:38] » Um, thank you for the context from both

[1:23:42] of you. So,

[1:23:45] I think this is more for the council uh

[1:23:49] and maybe for the developer. I'm not

[1:23:51] sure.

[1:23:52] It's as you it sounds like you know what

[1:23:54] you're talking about. I know Kathy

[1:23:56] absolutely does. Uh my concern about

[1:23:59] this location is and I'll I'll play it

[1:24:03] out. I want to see how this goes. But my

[1:24:06] concern and it's what you just talked

[1:24:08] about with the highway and 400 of these

[1:24:11] units.

[1:24:14] My one of my best friends just bought a

[1:24:16] car. Hadn't had one in year. I mean had

[1:24:18] one but you know it was a very old one

[1:24:20] and spent

[1:24:22] over $25,000 to buy that car. That's the

[1:24:25] first thing. We also know annually it's

[1:24:28] about $12,000 maintenance and gas.

[1:24:32] When you're talking about the median

[1:24:34] income for Oklahoma City residents being

[1:24:37] $37,000 a year, that's why we need the

[1:24:41] affordable housing, right? And I

[1:24:43] appreciate the 60% of AMI. I think

[1:24:46] that's great, right? Because we're going

[1:24:48] to be able to get to that demographic.

[1:24:50] But when we build that affordable

[1:24:52] housing

[1:24:54] outside of a city's public

[1:24:57] transportation system, we are putting on

[1:25:02] to that individual or family

[1:25:05] transportation cost annually. I just

[1:25:09] last week oil change, coolant flush,

[1:25:12] cabin air filter, $350

[1:25:15] just poof gone. And that's just for

[1:25:17] that. That's not the Iran war gas

[1:25:20] prices. I'm guessing the war will end at

[1:25:22] some point, but even before the war,

[1:25:26] these transportation data costs are what

[1:25:29] they are. They are what they are. And

[1:25:32] that is my concern about this location.

[1:25:34] So again, I'm willing to hear like,

[1:25:37] okay, let's do this because the school

[1:25:40] district I I think you make a arguably

[1:25:42] persuasive case there. But there are in

[1:25:45] fact other parts of Oklahoma City,

[1:25:48] particularly in the urban core from 240

[1:25:52] to 35 to 44 to Memorial. And quite

[1:25:56] frankly, I'd come down to expressway um

[1:25:58] where we have a public transportation

[1:26:01] system, where we have the ability to do

[1:26:03] something called transit oriented

[1:26:04] development. That is not my phrase. That

[1:26:08] is something I have learned serving on

[1:26:10] the central Oklahoma Transportation and

[1:26:12] Parking Authority since 2015. And if we

[1:26:16] are really serious about infill,

[1:26:19] affordable housing, mixeduse

[1:26:21] developments, and transportationoriented

[1:26:23] development, we we've got to start

[1:26:25] thinking a little bit more cleverly

[1:26:27] about where we are. Um, not just

[1:26:29] cleverly, intentionally about these

[1:26:31] affordable housing projects. I I this is

[1:26:36] I'm going to say yes, but I'm not going

[1:26:38] to keep saying yes. if we keep doing

[1:26:40] this, if we keep sprawling ourselves out

[1:26:43] with affordable housing because it it

[1:26:46] and I'm seeing some people not

[1:26:48] understanding what I'm saying, so I

[1:26:49] don't know when the last time it was you

[1:26:50] made $37,000 a year. Um,

[1:26:55] we cannot keep building

[1:26:59] housing, especially quote affordable

[1:27:01] housing, away from public

[1:27:03] transportation. We can't do it. So, I'm

[1:27:07] just and and and let me go this far. If

[1:27:11] someone thinks I'm wrong from this

[1:27:13] horseshoe,

[1:27:15] bring the data in the research, bring

[1:27:17] it. Bring it. Show this council that

[1:27:20] what I am saying is incorrect. Show us

[1:27:23] because I promise you, I could bring

[1:27:25] Jason Fairbrush up here, uh Jesse Rush,

[1:27:29] I could bring the RTA board. Uh

[1:27:33] we're making some great investments in

[1:27:35] public transit and affordable housing

[1:27:36] and I would encourage you as a developer

[1:27:38] to help us in that regard. Um Kathy, you

[1:27:43] too. Um and council, like I said, if

[1:27:45] you're having a problem with what I am

[1:27:46] saying, then bring me the counter data.

[1:27:49] So, and I I need for Bradley to be able

[1:27:52] to have this stuff out there for the

[1:27:53] reasons you said that there are too many

[1:27:55] families who can't afford to move out

[1:27:57] there, but

[1:28:01] Okay.

[1:28:01] » On that, I'll take that as a segue. Um,

[1:28:03] I don't think that you're wrong in what

[1:28:05] you're saying, but I think that the

[1:28:06] definition for who qualifies for

[1:28:08] affordable housing has expanded a lot,

[1:28:10] especially in the last 12 to 18 months.

[1:28:13] So, I do think something like this is

[1:28:16] needed in our in our in my ward. Um, I

[1:28:19] have to agree with him wholeheartedly

[1:28:21] when it comes to the fact that we don't

[1:28:22] have public transportation in that area.

[1:28:24] Um I want to say public transportation

[1:28:26] stops about a mile and a half from this

[1:28:29] this corner uh council north as

[1:28:30] expressway. So that's something that

[1:28:33] we'll have to take up with our our

[1:28:35] transit on that. Um couple questions

[1:28:37] that I do have for you though is what is

[1:28:39] your um what's going to keep you from

[1:28:41] selling this and it becoming not

[1:28:43] affordable housing?

[1:28:44] » Yeah, it's a a good question um and

[1:28:45] something that was mentioned earlier. So

[1:28:47] the project will actually be restricted

[1:28:49] to to these rent levels for 30 years.

[1:28:51] Um, Dominium, you know, as we mentioned

[1:28:52] earlier, we've been in the business for

[1:28:53] 50 years. We've been developing new

[1:28:55] construction uh lit communities for

[1:28:58] since probably 2010, and we've never

[1:28:59] sold one of them before. Um, so just

[1:29:02] through our track record, we don't

[1:29:04] historically sell these. And Oklahoma

[1:29:06] stays, it's not just another project to

[1:29:09] us. Like this is, you know, what I think

[1:29:10] about all day and somewhere that I'm

[1:29:12] really excited to be invested in. Um, I

[1:29:14] guess the simplest way to answer your

[1:29:16] question is that we're restricted to do

[1:29:18] this for 30 years. But the I guess more

[1:29:20] nuanced answer is that Dominium does

[1:29:21] this across the country and has done

[1:29:23] this for the last 15 or 20 years not

[1:29:25] selling any of these projects.

[1:29:26] » So when you say you're restricted from

[1:29:28] doing this for 30 years if I read the

[1:29:30] slide correctly I mean I understand what

[1:29:33] the the loans the the agreements and

[1:29:36] what such but what I read I thought it

[1:29:38] said if you were to sell you would have

[1:29:40] to be you would have to pay everything

[1:29:42] back in one lump sum at that point. But

[1:29:43] it doesn't say anything about the fact

[1:29:45] that the person purchasing it would have

[1:29:47] to maintain affordable housing.

[1:29:49] » So, we signed a land use restriction

[1:29:51] agreement with the Oklahoma Housing

[1:29:52] Finance.

[1:29:53] » Are we about to explode?

[1:29:57] » Something's about to happen. Sorry to

[1:29:58] interrupt you.

[1:29:59] » No worries.

[1:30:01] » Okay.

[1:30:01] » Uh, we signed a land use restriction

[1:30:03] agreement with the Oklahoma Housing

[1:30:04] Finance Agency where it restricts the

[1:30:06] project to this rent level for 30 years

[1:30:08] when we close on our financing. And so

[1:30:10] that stays in place and is uh is has

[1:30:14] priority over our loan and has you know

[1:30:16] priority to stay in the on the land.

[1:30:19] It's like connected to the land for 30

[1:30:20] years.

[1:30:20] » So even if it's paid off that that

[1:30:22] restriction is tied to the land for 30

[1:30:24] years. Correct.

[1:30:25] » So whoever buys it understands that

[1:30:27] » And is going to be held to those

[1:30:29] standards. What Kathy was saying earlier

[1:30:31] is what will likely happen after 15

[1:30:33] years is Dominium will refinance or

[1:30:35] we'll have some sort of value event

[1:30:36] internally and then we will rehab the

[1:30:38] property and extend our our we'll extend

[1:30:40] the affordability again for another 30

[1:30:42] years at that point. So,

[1:30:44] » Okay, that that helps me on this one.

[1:30:46] Just I want to also make sure that we we

[1:30:47] have that kind of put out in layman's

[1:30:49] terms. Um the other question I have for

[1:30:52] you is what is your your time frame of

[1:30:54] development? And I'm I'm going to

[1:30:56] explain this to you. And the reason I'm

[1:30:57] asking this is I have a lot of pressure

[1:31:00] from the Piedmont School District to not

[1:31:03] develop. They haven't approved a bond in

[1:31:06] almost two years now. They haven't been

[1:31:07] able to build buildings. They can't even

[1:31:09] take care of their roads. They're having

[1:31:10] a lot of issues uh with different

[1:31:12] aspects. So the more we build and put

[1:31:15] kids in their school, the more problems

[1:31:17] they continue to have, which trickles

[1:31:19] down to problems with children learning

[1:31:21] development, yada yada yada. So I I just

[1:31:24] need to see what our kind of our time

[1:31:25] frame is for this.

[1:31:26] » Yes, we would plan to start construction

[1:31:28] um this year in probably the end of

[1:31:30] October and from there it would take us

[1:31:32] about 30 months to complete the entire

[1:31:34] project which would kind of be turned

[1:31:36] over in phases. And so we'd probably

[1:31:37] expect the first third of the project to

[1:31:39] be done about 20 months after that. So

[1:31:42] I'd say and and then another section

[1:31:44] probably 26 months after the start and

[1:31:47] then 30 months. pretty much we'll start

[1:31:49] construction here in the end of this

[1:31:50] year and then we will be completely

[1:31:52] delivered in the middle of 2029.

[1:31:56] » Okay. So three years you'll be you'll

[1:32:00] have 400 and some units completed.

[1:32:02] » Correct.

[1:32:05] » Okay. Thank you very much. Relatedly,

[1:32:07] you know, a school district that just

[1:32:09] passed the bond and is doing all kinds

[1:32:11] of improvement is Oklahoma City public

[1:32:13] schools that they're building flex

[1:32:15] spaces for career tech training on

[1:32:17] campus. So, I'd love to see you back

[1:32:19] here. I like it sounds like your mind

[1:32:21] and your heart are heading in some

[1:32:23] places where I think there's some good

[1:32:24] collaboration in the future. But,

[1:32:27] » I appreciate your questions and I as

[1:32:29] someone who thinks about affordable

[1:32:30] housing all day, I do not disagree with

[1:32:31] anything you said with the the trans.

[1:32:34] » I appreciate you bringing it up.

[1:32:36] encouragement. Thank you.

[1:32:37] » Sadly, in reality, W four, W five, most

[1:32:41] of W 8, a lot of W 7 are way underserved

[1:32:44] by public transit.

[1:32:46] » So, you're you're limiting where

[1:32:49] affordable housing can be built based on

[1:32:51] public transit. I mean, and I know

[1:32:53] you're licking your lips there.

[1:32:55] » Oh, I am.

[1:32:56] » But but it it's the real reality of it.

[1:32:59] Until public transit gets better, we

[1:33:01] can't styy affordable housing being

[1:33:04] built other places. Just forcing a

[1:33:06] public transit hand.

[1:33:12] » Okay.

[1:33:12] » No, hang on. No. No. No. No. [music]

[1:33:18] [laughter]

[1:33:19] » It's called regulating one's emotions

[1:33:21] and not just responding.

[1:33:26] » Well, you

[1:33:27] » Okay. Sorry. Go ahead. This is

[1:33:29] important. This This is something that

[1:33:30] voters just approved in October, this

[1:33:32] $50 million, for the first time in our

[1:33:35] history, investment in affordable

[1:33:36] housing. And the council member is not

[1:33:38] wrong.

[1:33:41] We have for all of these years, we did

[1:33:43] not even have Sunday bus service, as you

[1:33:45] all recall, until 2018. All of these

[1:33:48] decades, the buses did not run on days

[1:33:50] that people go to places of worship when

[1:33:51] they go to grocery stores to see their

[1:33:53] families, etc., etc., etc.

[1:33:56] We did not prioritize public uh

[1:33:59] transportation and that is why word four

[1:34:01] and word seven and word five and word

[1:34:03] eight are not served by public

[1:34:04] transportation is not by my hand. I

[1:34:06] would have and w one I would have done

[1:34:08] it a million times over and I have

[1:34:10] advocated for it a million times over.

[1:34:12] So this is not an us versus them thing.

[1:34:14] I would have done it. I would do it

[1:34:15] right now. I would encourage us to be

[1:34:18] expanding public transportation out

[1:34:19] there. That's why I'm so supportive of

[1:34:21] our one transit election which is

[1:34:23] actually going to allow us not just to

[1:34:25] do commuter rail from Norman to Edmund

[1:34:28] to OKC light rail and councilwoman's

[1:34:30] ward to the airport to county line not

[1:34:33] just BRT to the airport but actually to

[1:34:36] increase our public transportation

[1:34:38] budget in the city of Oklahoma City so

[1:34:40] that buses actually run by the industry

[1:34:42] standard of every 15 minutes instead of

[1:34:44] the 30 minutes that they do right now.

[1:34:46] If you miss the bus right now, that is

[1:34:48] your job.

[1:34:50] You have to wait 30 more minutes before

[1:34:52] you get there. So, no, you're not wrong,

[1:34:54] Councilman. But we're

[1:34:56] what I guess I am advocating

[1:34:59] is that as we move toward one transit,

[1:35:03] as we move toward those investments, we

[1:35:06] cannot put the cart before the horse and

[1:35:08] start building the affordable housing

[1:35:10] out in the parts of the city where that

[1:35:14] public transportation option doesn't

[1:35:16] exist for our people. If a person lives

[1:35:20] and I have friends in all of your words,

[1:35:22] all of your words I know people and I

[1:35:24] also know people who either have just

[1:35:26] one car and they are a family or they

[1:35:28] have no car and they cannot if we are

[1:35:31] landlocking them is what I am saying. We

[1:35:33] are landlocking them when we build this

[1:35:35] housing in the part of town that you

[1:35:37] have just described when we don't have

[1:35:39] that public transportation system for

[1:35:41] them. Meanwhile, all across parts of

[1:35:44] each of our respective ws, part of your

[1:35:47] word, part of that councilman's word,

[1:35:49] part of this council part, every one of

[1:35:50] the words you just named, um there is

[1:35:53] public transportation options and info

[1:35:55] option development all around each one

[1:35:57] of those words. We should be

[1:35:58] prioritizing this $50 million affordable

[1:36:01] housing funding where the transit exists

[1:36:03] in each one of our respective WS. This

[1:36:05] is not a word two prioritizing thing

[1:36:07] that I'm doing. I'm telling you, each

[1:36:09] one of our words, Councilwoman and I

[1:36:11] share Northwest 23rd Street together, we

[1:36:13] share it. We could be doing this sort of

[1:36:15] investment around there, MacArthur,

[1:36:18] Northeast 10th Street, you name it. And

[1:36:20] I love Bradley's question, excuse me,

[1:36:23] Councilman Councilman's question about

[1:36:26] the longevity of the affordable housing

[1:36:27] because when I think about Northeast

[1:36:29] 10th Street, sorry, Northwest 10th

[1:36:31] Street, and I think about parts of the

[1:36:33] city, 122nd and Penn, which used to be

[1:36:35] part of WI, there were apartments, there

[1:36:38] were developers who are standing right

[1:36:39] where you're standing right now who pro

[1:36:43] made a similar pitch to that council 30

[1:36:45] years ago when they built those houses

[1:36:47] or excuse me, those

[1:36:50] There is no maintenance in those

[1:36:52] apartments today. There is no

[1:36:54] maintaining of affordability. There is

[1:36:57] no maintaining of the conditions of

[1:36:59] those apartments. So, councilman asked

[1:37:00] the exact right question to be asking.

[1:37:03] And that is actually something I would

[1:37:04] turn to city manager Freeman in this

[1:37:06] moment and to planning and start asking

[1:37:07] us to think about what happens at the

[1:37:09] end of that 30 years. Now all of us will

[1:37:12] be heading into retirement of course but

[1:37:15] our people will linger and we really do

[1:37:17] need to think about what are some

[1:37:19] parameters we can be I mean thinking

[1:37:20] outside the box what have other cities

[1:37:22] done. We cannot allow this development

[1:37:25] 30 years from now to become what Dime

[1:37:27] Block has become.

[1:37:30] We cannot do that. We have got to be

[1:37:32] more intentional about this. So I think

[1:37:34] you're asking and saying the exact right

[1:37:36] things. Please do not misunderstand me

[1:37:37] of saying I want all of this in W two

[1:37:39] because I could point to each one of our

[1:37:41] words and see where the public

[1:37:43] transportation

[1:37:45] uh development opportunities are. I just

[1:37:48] want to be very clear about that. This

[1:37:49] is not a word to versus everybody else.

[1:37:51] I see it. I'm asking us to prioritize

[1:37:54] where the transportation is to do the

[1:37:56] affordable housing there as we improve

[1:37:59] our public transportation system. I hope

[1:38:01] that makes sense. If it does not, let me

[1:38:03] know. By the way, I have to calm down in

[1:38:06] these moments because I get so

[1:38:07] passionate, so excited, and I don't ever

[1:38:09] want to come across as um combative. So,

[1:38:12] please, council members, do not ever

[1:38:14] think that's what's happening. I love

[1:38:15] this sort of engagement. I love back and

[1:38:18] forth. I live for it. So, don't don't

[1:38:22] take this don't take this as like trying

[1:38:24] to prove a point. This is truly like a

[1:38:25] iron sharpens iron moment. So, and if I

[1:38:28] ever come across differently, you know,

[1:38:32] let me know. But just know that that's

[1:38:34] it's just a spirited thing. And again,

[1:38:36] both of you have brought something

[1:38:37] meaningful here for the reasons that you

[1:38:39] have said and the council person has

[1:38:41] said. I'm just trying to like push us a

[1:38:43] little bit further here toward that

[1:38:46] affordability.

[1:38:50] » Thank you.

[1:38:50] » I think what you're saying is um

[1:38:52] strategic prioritization

[1:38:54] » Of economic incentives tied to

[1:38:56] affordable housing. And so are is there

[1:38:58] a framework within the alliance or

[1:39:01] within this uh economic development

[1:39:03] trust that is prioritizing or

[1:39:06] incentivizing or rankordering uh

[1:39:08] applications based on what makes the

[1:39:10] most sense for our city or is it really

[1:39:12] just a on an application by application

[1:39:14] basis?

[1:39:15] » A good point question. I mean we we we

[1:39:18] do have that in as a priority but it's

[1:39:21] not a limiting factor you know and

[1:39:24] having an opportunity with this to get f

[1:39:26] it's that are this type of quality it's

[1:39:29] so it's a balance it's something we

[1:39:30] consider but it's not the final decision

[1:39:34] but I do think it's one that we got to

[1:39:35] be sensitive to of like how much of the

[1:39:38] affordable since we're limited on how

[1:39:40] much we have would be outside of that

[1:39:43] public transportation corridor I think

[1:39:44] we got to keep that in mind Joan and

[1:39:46] have just been communicating on this and

[1:39:48] so it's it's definitely something that's

[1:39:50] front of mind for us that we know we

[1:39:51] need to encourage that direction.

[1:39:54] » I'll have more to say about the I don't

[1:39:56] want to keep the developer and Kathy. So

[1:40:01] » Appreciate it.

[1:40:03] » We have a resident who signed up to

[1:40:04] speak on this item. Steve Hunt.

[1:40:12] » I'm gonna be real brief because I

[1:40:14] misread what I saw on here. I think I

[1:40:16] saw the uh e Oklahoma City Economic

[1:40:19] Development Trust on there and

[1:40:21] remembering the words of Oscar Wild

[1:40:23] about the people who caused the need for

[1:40:25] things and then give us the solutions.

[1:40:28] So, it kind of triggered me a little bit

[1:40:29] and then I saw Carella was here so it

[1:40:31] kind of All right.

[1:40:37] » All right. That concludes citizens who

[1:40:39] signed up to speak for this item. Uh we

[1:40:41] could take a motion in a second on item

[1:40:43] R, this joint resolution with the

[1:40:45] Economic Development Trust.

[1:41:02] » All right. Well, we have a motion in a

[1:41:04] second. Cast your votes if you have the

[1:41:06] ability. I would like to vote I.

[1:41:13] Passes unanimously. All right. Item S is

[1:41:16] a joint resolution with the Oklahoma

[1:41:18] City Economic Development Trust

[1:41:19] approving the allocation of bond

[1:41:21] proceeds in an amount not to exceed $2

[1:41:23] million for the Villas at Stone Lake

[1:41:27] affordable housing project. It's 7404

[1:41:29] Larwood Lane. And we have a

[1:41:32] presentation.

[1:41:32] » Yes. Kathy Okconor is going to present

[1:41:34] this project as well.

[1:41:36] Thank you. Um, this project is called

[1:41:38] the Villas at Stone Lake and it is

[1:41:40] located at 7404 Larwood Lane. Um, this

[1:41:43] project is a little bit different than

[1:41:44] the last one we just talked about. This

[1:41:46] is an existing um, apartment complex

[1:41:48] that is um, only about 40% occupied I

[1:41:53] believe at the time. Right now, um, it's

[1:41:55] 160 units um,

[1:41:59] » In 14 uh, residential buildings. Again,

[1:42:01] this project has uh qualified and has

[1:42:04] been allocated low-income housing tax

[1:42:06] credits through OFA. Um it is a a

[1:42:09] complete remodel of the facility. You

[1:42:12] can go ahead to the next one. Um

[1:42:15] this is the location of the project at

[1:42:17] about 63rd in MacArthur again in that

[1:42:20] Lerwood Lane area where there are quite

[1:42:22] a few apartment complexes and some of

[1:42:24] them are in need of rehabilitation like

[1:42:27] this one.

[1:42:29] Um again as I mentioned this is a

[1:42:30] complete renovation of the project.

[1:42:33] Everything from site improvements to the

[1:42:35] exterior the complete interior overhaul

[1:42:38] of every unit all the electrical

[1:42:40] plumbing um f you know fixtures

[1:42:43] everything in it. Um they you know all

[1:42:46] of LITC projects have to have ADA

[1:42:49] accessibility uh requirements. So those

[1:42:51] will also be added to the project.

[1:42:55] This is a breakdown of the units. Again,

[1:42:57] this this this is an existing apartment

[1:42:59] complex, so the unit sizes are a little

[1:43:01] bit different. These are one and

[1:43:03] twobedroom units um that the rents will

[1:43:06] range from about $833 a month up to

[1:43:10] around $1,200 a month for the two

[1:43:12] bedrooms.

[1:43:14] Uh project budget is about $28 million.

[1:43:18] Um again on the construction time period

[1:43:20] for this one, I think they plan to start

[1:43:22] later this year uh early next year on

[1:43:25] the rehab of this um project.

[1:43:30] Uh our request for this project is a $2

[1:43:33] million uh loan. Again, uh structured as

[1:43:37] uh repayment is deferred until year 18.

[1:43:41] Um and it helps to fill the remaining

[1:43:43] financing gap that uh the project has

[1:43:46] that is not filled by the permanent loan

[1:43:48] that the LITC equity and um like in the

[1:43:51] other project a deferred developer fee.

[1:43:56] And this is just a little bit about

[1:43:57] where the project is right now. As I

[1:43:59] mentioned, it is shovel ready. We've

[1:44:01] been awarded our tax credits. This

[1:44:03] affordable housing loan allocation will

[1:44:06] help us uh finalize our financing and

[1:44:08] get get to closing here in a couple

[1:44:10] months.

[1:44:13] That's about it. Be glad to take any

[1:44:15] questions on this one.

[1:44:17] » Is this going to have the same deed

[1:44:20] restriction on the land?

[1:44:21] » Yes, I believe it does. Yeah, I'm pretty

[1:44:23] sure all of OFA's projects have that

[1:44:25] deed restriction, that 30-year.

[1:44:28] » Okay.

[1:44:28] » So, you're really tied to that 30-year

[1:44:30] compliance. And what are we doing with

[1:44:32] the current residents?

[1:44:34] » Pardon me.

[1:44:34] » What are we going to do with the current

[1:44:35] current residents that are there?

[1:44:37] » They will be moved within the project.

[1:44:41] As units are rehabbed, they'll be moved

[1:44:43] into new units and then their unit will

[1:44:45] be rehabed.

[1:44:45] » So, we're not going to displace

[1:44:47] » Our plan is to not displace anybody.

[1:44:49] » Okay. Thank you.

[1:44:53] » And thank you. because I just did a uh

[1:44:57] transit.

[1:44:58] » You did a check

[1:44:59] » Look to what what it would be like to go

[1:45:01] from city hall to these apartments and

[1:45:02] there's, you know, right there within a

[1:45:05] couple like not even walking distance

[1:45:07] isn't even the right word for it. But so

[1:45:10] this is the sort of stuff because you

[1:45:12] would take the eight to the rapid. So

[1:45:13] no, I really like that. So thank you for

[1:45:15] thinking here.

[1:45:20] » All right, we can take a motion on item

[1:45:23] S.

[1:45:27] Motion and a second. Cast your votes.

[1:45:39] Passes unanimously.

[1:45:41] Thanks, Kathy. All right. Right. Item T

[1:45:43] is a joint resolution with the Oklahoma

[1:45:44] City Economic Development Trust

[1:45:45] certifying that project slate, a

[1:45:47] proposed slate of three app distributed

[1:45:49] digital productions, is an eligible

[1:45:50] project under the uh strategic

[1:45:53] investment programs film incentive

[1:45:54] program. This allocation would not

[1:45:56] exceed $57,138

[1:46:00] and we have a presentation.

[1:46:02] » Yes, Jill Simpson with the Oklahoma City

[1:46:04] Film Office.

[1:46:05] » Good morning, council members. Uh for

[1:46:07] the first time I'm bringing you a slate

[1:46:09] of projects and as a reminder for slates

[1:46:14] the requirements are different. So for

[1:46:16] an episodic single episode for a TV show

[1:46:19] is $100,000

[1:46:21] but when you have an aggregate of

[1:46:23] multiple episodes that meet 500,000 they

[1:46:25] qualify at the 10% level which this one

[1:46:28] does. Um, this is what I've called

[1:46:31] Project Slate, and it is three episodes

[1:46:34] of a faith-based

[1:46:36] uh vertical project, which is content

[1:46:39] created to go directly to your cell

[1:46:41] phone. And I've listed basically the

[1:46:45] descriptions, which you can read

[1:46:46] through. They're all centered around

[1:46:48] small communities. This one in at

[1:46:50] Christmas time, and they tell family

[1:46:53] oriented stories. Um, the people behind

[1:46:56] this are the company is Angel Verticals

[1:46:59] LLC, but the Oklahoma City partners are

[1:47:02] BRG Entertainment, which is Brent Ryan

[1:47:04] Green of the Green family here in

[1:47:06] Oklahoma City, and LD Entertainment,

[1:47:09] which is the Liddell Entertainment

[1:47:11] Group. 100% will be filmed in Oklahoma

[1:47:13] City. Uh, they're utilizing Oklahoma

[1:47:15] City facilities. 98% of the crew is

[1:47:18] Oklahoma City based and anticipated

[1:47:21] Oklahoma City expenditures total 571,

[1:47:25] 386, which is 65.4%

[1:47:29] of their budget.

[1:47:31] Again, this would qualify since it's

[1:47:32] above a half million dollars in

[1:47:34] expenditures, it will be the 10% level.

[1:47:37] Um, they're meeting the requirements of

[1:47:40] hiring 50% crew, which they'll have 98%.

[1:47:44] They're uh filming more than 50% in

[1:47:46] Oklahoma City. They're actually filming

[1:47:48] 100%.

[1:47:50] They will be hiring 71% of local vendors

[1:47:54] meeting the 50% requirement. They've

[1:47:56] been pre-qualified by the state of

[1:47:58] Oklahoma and they're using Filmmakers

[1:48:00] Ranch and possibly one set studio in

[1:48:02] downtown Oklahoma City. So, I'm

[1:48:04] recommending the full 10% which is

[1:48:06] 57,38.

[1:48:10] I want to add that they could be

[1:48:11] potentially bringing a lot more of these

[1:48:13] to Oklahoma City, which is great

[1:48:15] training for our crew. They're hiring 53

[1:48:18] people and over 21 days that equals

[1:48:22] 1,113

[1:48:23] work days, 98% resident crew. Qualifying

[1:48:28] labor income, 277,155.

[1:48:34] And just a snapshot, 100% filming days,

[1:48:37] 98% local crew, 71% of vendors.

[1:48:42] Total economic impact is 1.3 million for

[1:48:45] this project. Uh job supported direct

[1:48:48] and indirect are 70. Local labor income

[1:48:51] 533,468.

[1:48:54] So their qualifying expend expenditures

[1:48:57] of 571 386 break down to taxable

[1:49:00] expenditures goods and services of

[1:49:02] 113,522

[1:49:05] below the line crew salaries and pdium

[1:49:08] 23,721

[1:49:11] and above the above the line salary and

[1:49:13] pdium at 73,554

[1:49:16] which comes under the 25% cap. Any

[1:49:20] questions?

[1:49:24] » Can I just add a note to you guys? Sure.

[1:49:26] » Copperhead is here on the ground. They

[1:49:28] love it here. They are so happy. So,

[1:49:30] thank you guys for making it happen.

[1:49:33] » Thanks, Joe. All right, we can take a

[1:49:35] motion on item T.

[1:49:42] We have a motion and a second. Cast your

[1:49:44] votes.

[1:49:51] passes unanimously.

[1:49:54] All right. Item 11 U are claims

[1:49:57] recommended for denial. Uh we have items

[1:50:01] A and B and executive session is not

[1:50:03] requested.

[1:50:10] We have motion and a second.

[1:50:15] passes unanimously.

[1:50:17] Item V1 uh is a claim recommended for

[1:50:20] approval. Executive session is not

[1:50:22] requested.

[1:50:30] We have a motion in a second. Cast your

[1:50:33] votes.

[1:50:37] Passes unanimously. That concludes votes

[1:50:40] for the day. Uh we're now at item 12.

[1:50:42] Comments from council. Ward one. board

[1:50:44] two.

[1:50:45] » Yes. [clears throat] A few things. Uh

[1:50:48] first, city manager, or maybe it's for

[1:50:50] Amy, and it it doesn't have to be this

[1:50:53] meeting. Maybe it could be the next one,

[1:50:55] but something that's been on my mind for

[1:50:57] a long time, but then over the weekend

[1:50:58] really accelerated.

[1:51:00] It could be brief, but I would like for

[1:51:03] the public to hear a walkth through of

[1:51:08] not the agenda items, but the agenda

[1:51:10] categories like what is concurrence?

[1:51:13] What is consent? What is uh items for

[1:51:17] individual consideration? Like how what

[1:51:19] like I just don't think I know for a

[1:51:21] fact as someone who until I served on

[1:51:24] this body, I had no idea what each of

[1:51:26] those terms were. So for instance, not

[1:51:28] even just those items, but uh the

[1:51:31] municipal facilities authority uh or you

[1:51:35] know PPA, I just think it just a brief

[1:51:38] like this is what this is, this is why

[1:51:40] items go here, this is what this is,

[1:51:41] this is why items go here. And then

[1:51:43] that's something I can clip and I can

[1:51:45] put on social media and it can serve as

[1:51:47] a public education moment. And I've been

[1:51:50] thinking about that for a really long

[1:51:51] time. But I whoever needs to do that, um

[1:51:54] I think it would sound better coming

[1:51:56] from two figures of authority in the way

[1:51:59] that you all are than it would even from

[1:52:00] a council member.

[1:52:02] Um maybe next meeting would be a good

[1:52:04] time to do that. But um so thank you for

[1:52:07] that. And then a question before I have

[1:52:09] some comments. Uh, we had some council

[1:52:10] members who went on a trip recently to

[1:52:13] Salt Lake City and I was just curious

[1:52:14] how your trip went. Your trip went for

[1:52:16] the one tranted. How'd it go?

[1:52:18] » It was all right.

[1:52:19] » All right. [laughter]

[1:52:22] Um well on that note uh I with the

[1:52:27] affordable housing conversation earlier

[1:52:29] uh I had already planned to ask for this

[1:52:33] presentation but I think we would all

[1:52:35] benefit the council and the public for

[1:52:38] maybe a bit of a presentation on transit

[1:52:41] oriented development. I think that would

[1:52:43] go a long way to helping people

[1:52:45] understand

[1:52:48] why we need to be strategic about I

[1:52:51] loved your language earlier councilwoman

[1:52:53] just like being strategic about our

[1:52:54] investments where are opportunities in

[1:52:56] this city uh to do that sort of uh

[1:53:00] transit oriented investment whether it's

[1:53:02] the maps for southside bus rapid

[1:53:05] transits that are coming the northeast

[1:53:06] side bus rapid transits that are coming

[1:53:09] the current BRT on class and expressway

[1:53:12] All right. Uh, and then if voters, God

[1:53:14] help us, actually approve the one

[1:53:16] transit election next year, what the

[1:53:18] commuter rail line from Edund to Norman

[1:53:20] to OKC, what development could look like

[1:53:22] along that, what development could look

[1:53:24] like heading out to West OKC, what

[1:53:26] development could look like on Meridian

[1:53:29] Avenue where a light rail is proposed,

[1:53:30] what development could look like heading

[1:53:32] to the southeast part of our city out to

[1:53:34] Tinker could look like. Like I just

[1:53:36] really want us, this is such an

[1:53:37] incredible moment for not just Oklahoma

[1:53:40] City, but for Edmund and Norman. And I

[1:53:42] just really want us to be able to

[1:53:44] demonstrate to ourselves and our

[1:53:45] residents a sense of intentionality and

[1:53:47] vision and vision. Um, so I'd really

[1:53:51] like for uh a presentation and examples

[1:53:54] like I want people to see what multi- uh

[1:53:57] use developments do and could look like.

[1:54:01] uh what uh mixeduse developments, what

[1:54:05] mixed income developments could look

[1:54:06] like as opposed to what we did 30 and 60

[1:54:09] years ago where we just said here all

[1:54:11] you poor people, you go live in these

[1:54:12] apartments over here and the stigma that

[1:54:14] lingers with us because of those

[1:54:16] decisions, right? What happens when you

[1:54:18] have um subsidized units alongside

[1:54:21] market rate units? So, I just I I would

[1:54:23] really like to see that. I think that

[1:54:24] would help all of us think more

[1:54:26] strategically about where we need to be

[1:54:28] advocating in each of our respective

[1:54:30] wards for that sort of development.

[1:54:33] Um, relatedly, just a few other items. I

[1:54:37] would also appreciate an update on the

[1:54:39] maps for trees project. Uh, this is on

[1:54:43] my mind because if you have dared to

[1:54:45] walk even to your car in the last few

[1:54:48] weeks, you notice how hot it is. and we

[1:54:52] live on a prairie and this also gives us

[1:54:55] an intention uh an intentional moment to

[1:54:58] uh think about the maps for funding for

[1:55:01] trees. I promise you whether it's OKC

[1:55:04] beautiful or other entities OG& there

[1:55:07] are public private partnerships out

[1:55:09] there waiting for us to create an um

[1:55:14] urban canopy when it comes to trees. Um,

[1:55:17] we have heat map data where people

[1:55:20] volunteered to see where it's the

[1:55:22] hottest all across our city where, you

[1:55:25] know, just have giant stretches of

[1:55:27] asphalt parking lot and then you have

[1:55:28] that hot Oklahoma sun just pouring down

[1:55:30] at 107°. What if there were trees there

[1:55:34] for your children, for seniors, for you?

[1:55:36] And we have funded those, but I have yet

[1:55:38] to hear a plan on where they're going.

[1:55:40] And again, we can be data driven and

[1:55:42] intentional. So, I really would like an

[1:55:44] update on that.

[1:55:45] um relatedly on that same um maps for

[1:55:49] docket was uh street lights and you know

[1:55:53] when I've knocked doors uh and I've

[1:55:56] knocked till it gets dark and it gets

[1:55:58] dark in neighborhoods and again from

[1:56:00] seniors to children I think we need to

[1:56:02] be uh I'd like an update we've already

[1:56:04] funded it voters approved it so I just

[1:56:06] wanted to hear like what data are we

[1:56:08] using to determine where these street

[1:56:10] lights are going and in my mind street

[1:56:12] lights and trees are like priority right

[1:56:14] And anytime it's July and August, you

[1:56:16] have that reminder of the priority. So

[1:56:19] I'd like to hear an update on that,

[1:56:20] please. And then finally, again, keeping

[1:56:23] with the maps for it all. I'm so

[1:56:25] excited. I remember when Mayor came to

[1:56:27] me back in 2019 and said

[1:56:29] beautifification. I don't know what it's

[1:56:31] going to mean yet, but we're going to do

[1:56:32] it and we're going to have an endowment

[1:56:33] along with it. I mean, I just thought it

[1:56:34] was a very inventive moment um from you.

[1:56:38] And so, uh, I hear from residents

[1:56:41] regularly about the cleanliness of OKC

[1:56:44] or sometimes the lack thereof. And I

[1:56:47] would like an update on where we're

[1:56:49] heading with some of these projects. So,

[1:56:50] let me give you an example. I was

[1:56:52] driving over I44 and 63rd Street and we

[1:56:57] have new sidewalks that are there over

[1:56:59] the bridge and there's just grass just

[1:57:02] growing over the sidewalk. So, if you

[1:57:05] have a wheelchair or you have a

[1:57:07] stroller,

[1:57:09] what does your connectivity look like uh

[1:57:12] to Sprouts up the road, right? Or to

[1:57:14] Mayflower Church on the other side like

[1:57:16] or to your home. And so, I just really

[1:57:18] want want us to hear where we're heading

[1:57:21] with the beautifification. And I want us

[1:57:23] again to conclude there to think about,

[1:57:26] you know, we have a street cleaner

[1:57:27] downtown. That street cleaner does not

[1:57:30] exist really anywhere else in the city.

[1:57:31] I do love, by the way, city manager, we

[1:57:33] have the cleaning uh capabilities for

[1:57:35] some of the bike lanes now. I think that

[1:57:37] is a wonderful step in the right

[1:57:38] direction. But I just hear from

[1:57:39] residents too often about, you know, the

[1:57:43] collection of of litter and trash on our

[1:57:47] trails, on our sidewalks, on our

[1:57:49] neighborhood streets, our arterial

[1:57:50] roads. And I would like to see us uh

[1:57:53] move with some intention in those ways.

[1:57:55] Um

[1:57:57] it's it's it what we see determines our

[1:57:59] perception of reality and the perception

[1:58:02] of the city and so again

[1:58:04] beautifification cleaning street lights

[1:58:05] trees to then that agenda um walkth

[1:58:10] through would be very very useful. So I

[1:58:13] appreciate you all. Thank you.

[1:58:17] » Thank you. W three.

[1:58:19] » W four.

[1:58:20] » Thank you Mary. Mayor.

[1:58:23] » Sorry, mayor.

[1:58:24] » I know I'm well aware that mayor is also

[1:58:26] what you call your wife,

[1:58:28] » Right?

[1:58:28] » Maryanne.

[1:58:29] » Yeah. [laughter]

[1:58:30] » So, I know that this I know that this

[1:58:32] has always been for as long as you've

[1:58:33] been on the council an issue for you.

[1:58:34] Yeah.

[1:58:35] » Right.

[1:58:36] Um, you know, last Friday I was able to

[1:58:39] attend the uh MT Barry funeral, uh,

[1:58:42] which is very sad, but it was really

[1:58:44] just a a fantastic celebration

[1:58:48] uh, of his life and, you know, not just

[1:58:53] his life, but all the different things

[1:58:55] that he brought to this city, that he

[1:58:58] brought to his community, to his family,

[1:59:01] and to different friends. And I would

[1:59:03] just like to uh thank everyone that was

[1:59:06] able to speak at that. Um

[1:59:10] they did a fantastic job and it just it

[1:59:12] turned out to be a really nice event. I

[1:59:15] served with him on some committees and I

[1:59:18] always appreciated him very drastically

[1:59:20] and how he worked. So thank you.

[1:59:22] » Thank you. W five. W seven.

[1:59:27] » Thank you, Mayor. Just one thing in

[1:59:29] response to Councilman Cooper. I do

[1:59:31] think it'd be a good idea for us to take

[1:59:33] the time to get educated on multif

[1:59:35] family housing, all of that. And I think

[1:59:38] that that fits very well with the zoning

[1:59:40] code update that is ongoing and the

[1:59:42] conversations that are happening in the

[1:59:43] public. So perhaps a study session with

[1:59:45] the planning commission would be a good

[1:59:47] idea for us to um continue to inform

[1:59:50] ourselves about best practice and

[1:59:51] strategies to ensure that we are acting

[1:59:53] consistently with one another. Um, but I

[1:59:56] would I would support that because I

[1:59:58] think the the other challenge that

[1:59:59] wasn't mentioned when we talked about

[2:00:01] the affordable housing going on, moving

[2:00:03] into that far part of of Oklahoma City

[2:00:06] that we voted on today is that it's very

[2:00:08] hard to get the land and the

[2:00:09] entitlements in the urban core. Um,

[2:00:12] especially when you're talking about

[2:00:13] building at scale like this development

[2:00:15] is. And that's ultimately what led me to

[2:00:17] my yes vote. But but I do completely

[2:00:19] agree with you, Councilman Cooper, that

[2:00:21] we need to be trying to build more

[2:00:22] affordable housing near transit and

[2:00:24] continue to expand our trans public

[2:00:26] transit options. So, um so that's one.

[2:00:29] Two, um I had the the pleasure of

[2:00:32] joining, uh Councilman's Hinkle and

[2:00:35] Stone in Salt Lake City, as well as

[2:00:37] assistant city manager Fairbrush and the

[2:00:39] great one transit team. It was great to

[2:00:41] to see um Salt Lake City's um public

[2:00:45] transit system. The light rail was very

[2:00:47] impressive. It was very clean. I've

[2:00:50] always felt safe. It was certainly a

[2:00:52] very good model for us to con u to look

[2:00:54] at for Oklahoma City in the future. And

[2:00:56] so just excited to see the the one

[2:00:58] transit conversation continue to go

[2:01:00] forward because this is a really

[2:01:02] exciting opportunity for us to really

[2:01:03] make our city um just continue to build

[2:01:06] it up. So I'm just very excited about

[2:01:08] the work and and appreciate all the

[2:01:09] effort that went into the trip.

[2:01:11] » Word.

[2:01:13] » Yes. I want to thank Maryanne Carter.

[2:01:15] For those of you that don't know her,

[2:01:16] she's chair of the National Endowment

[2:01:18] for the Arts, and she has determined

[2:01:20] that Oklahoma City is a wonderful arts

[2:01:23] haven. She was on a two two-day tour

[2:01:25] here with representative Tom Cole and

[2:01:27] others where they toured FAM National

[2:01:30] Cowboy and Western Heritage Museum,

[2:01:32] Oklahoma City National Memorial and

[2:01:34] Museum, the State Capital Art

[2:01:36] Collection, the Oklahoma Contemporary

[2:01:38] Arts Center, the Oklahoma City Ballet,

[2:01:41] uh, and other other art communities uh,

[2:01:44] within Oklahoma City. The one thing that

[2:01:46] stood out to me of what she said was, "I

[2:01:48] feel like Oklahoma City has so much to

[2:01:50] offer." And a lot of people don't think

[2:01:52] about Oklahoma City as an art haven, but

[2:01:54] this is a chance for me now to go spread

[2:01:56] that word to the world. We have a great

[2:01:59] city. We have a great city for art, and

[2:02:01] I encourage people to come and see us.

[2:02:03] Thank you.

[2:02:04] » Thank you. We're now on item 13,

[2:02:06] citizens to be heard. We have We'll

[2:02:08] start if everyone would state their name

[2:02:10] and address and keep your remarks to

[2:02:12] three minutes or less. The clerk will

[2:02:14] remind you when you have 30 seconds

[2:02:16] left. Uh we'll start with Kevin

[2:02:18] McDaniel.

[2:02:32] Good morning. Still morning actually. Um

[2:02:36] TE McDaniel Ward 7. Um, I always come up

[2:02:40] here like thinking that I know what I'm

[2:02:42] gonna talk about and then the meeting

[2:02:43] has so many other things that have just

[2:02:45] been um, interesting to me that I feel

[2:02:47] like I have to speak on it. So, first,

[2:02:50] thank you uh, Councilman Cooper for your

[2:02:52] questions um, and your sort of

[2:02:54] understanding and grasp of what we

[2:02:56] actually need to sort of grow as a city

[2:02:59] in order to actually care for the people

[2:03:02] um, that we're trying to care for when

[2:03:03] we're talking about affordable housing,

[2:03:05] when we're talking about transportation.

[2:03:07] Um I think those are much needed

[2:03:09] questions to be answered. Um and I think

[2:03:12] that sort of brings me to um as you all

[2:03:15] know I'm always here talking about

[2:03:17] participatory budgeting right and like

[2:03:18] how are we getting the people more

[2:03:20] involved in these processes. Um I think

[2:03:23] this is also between this between flock

[2:03:26] um the contracts. I feel like this is

[2:03:28] all coming to we need more participation

[2:03:31] throughout all of these processes

[2:03:33] throughout all of these meetings. Um

[2:03:35] because again, not everybody can show up

[2:03:38] in these places. Um we've been trying to

[2:03:40] figure out for the last few weeks,

[2:03:41] really over the last month, what is

[2:03:43] going to happen on flock? What are we

[2:03:44] going to do with the surveillance here

[2:03:45] in Oklahoma City? Um as flock cameras

[2:03:48] are still being put up, as people are

[2:03:50] still being surveiled. Um we still

[2:03:52] haven't gotten an answer on why um

[2:03:55] whether we're going to sign the contract

[2:03:56] and continue this thing or whether we're

[2:03:58] not. Right. And as Homebase has said, as

[2:04:00] Oklahomaans for Privacy has said, um we

[2:04:02] don't need surveillance um in Oklahoma

[2:04:05] City, right? It has been nothing but

[2:04:07] data proven dangerous and been used in

[2:04:10] ways that are not um safe for our

[2:04:13] community members. And so, how are we

[2:04:15] actually making these spaces and these

[2:04:17] places accessible for people who have

[2:04:20] jobs, for people who have to take care

[2:04:21] of their families, who can't show up

[2:04:23] here at 8:30, right? I look at Tulsa,

[2:04:26] they get to have city council meetings

[2:04:28] after work from 6:00 to 8. They get to

[2:04:30] have much more people um who can

[2:04:33] actually come and have conversations

[2:04:34] with you. I think back to 2020 when we

[2:04:37] had to move these conversations online

[2:04:39] and you had much more of an influx of

[2:04:41] people who could actually give you the

[2:04:44] advice and their life experiences needed

[2:04:46] to make a lot of the decisions you all

[2:04:48] make behind closed doors without the the

[2:04:50] the um without the credible resources

[2:04:55] and experience givers that are the

[2:04:57] community members who are actually

[2:04:59] living through these decisions that you

[2:05:01] all make that have been harmful, right?

[2:05:03] to say the least for a long period of

[2:05:06] time. Um, and now we're getting to a

[2:05:08] place where at least we're getting some

[2:05:10] conversations. Um, and not everybody has

[2:05:12] the blessing of me to be able to work

[2:05:14] for an organization that I got to

[2:05:15] co-ound, where my job is to come and

[2:05:18] organize and tell people the decisions

[2:05:20] you make to the people who are actually

[2:05:22] affected by them and saying, "Well, if

[2:05:24] we can provide you with some of the

[2:05:26] resources that our city council is not

[2:05:27] providing us with, maybe that will give

[2:05:29] you more space to engage in these

[2:05:31] processes. Maybe that will give you more

[2:05:33] space to engage with your neighbors. But

[2:05:35] in fact, this body has not been

[2:05:37] providing those resources. So people

[2:05:39] can't show up because people have to

[2:05:40] take care of themselves first and that

[2:05:43] mean coming into this space. And so I

[2:05:45] want to continue to make this possible

[2:05:48] for people and y'all have to do that

[2:05:50] from that horse.

[2:05:50] » Isn't here?

[2:06:01] Good morning.

[2:06:03] I am here representing Ward 7. Um I

[2:06:08] basing my information off of the maps

[2:06:10] that are available on our um

[2:06:13] governmental website. Um, but I

[2:06:15] represent um I'm present as a resident

[2:06:18] of W 7 here to respectfully submit an

[2:06:21] enclosed petition requesting the

[2:06:22] planning and construction of two new

[2:06:24] Oklahoma City Fire Department stations

[2:06:26] east of Interstate 35 within Ward 7. Um,

[2:06:30] this proposal is based on on the growing

[2:06:32] public safety concern that has existed

[2:06:34] for years and deserves careful

[2:06:35] consideration of our community

[2:06:38] as our community continues to develop.

[2:06:40] Currently, there are no Oklahoma City

[2:06:42] fire stations located east of I35 within

[2:06:45] Ward 7, despite the present of

[2:06:47] established residential neighborhoods,

[2:06:49] expanding commercial development,

[2:06:52] industrial businesses, and undeveloped

[2:06:54] land that can contribute to rapidly

[2:06:56] spreading grass and brush fires.

[2:06:58] Residents and businesses in the area

[2:07:00] primarily rely on fire department 18 and

[2:07:03] 12 for emergency response. And while

[2:07:05] these stations serve have served our

[2:07:07] community with professionalism and

[2:07:09] dedication, they're located west of I35

[2:07:12] and must often navigate heavily travel

[2:07:14] corridors such as Northeast 23rd,

[2:07:17] Northeast 36th, and congested Interstate

[2:07:19] 35 overpasses um before actually

[2:07:22] reaching the emergency east of the

[2:07:25] interstate. And so every minute matters

[2:07:27] during a fire emergency. Um delays

[2:07:29] caused by traffic congestion, railroad

[2:07:32] crossings, roadway bottlenecks, and

[2:07:34] interstate crossings can significantly

[2:07:36] impact the outcome of fire, increasing

[2:07:38] the potential for property loss,

[2:07:40] environmental damage, and threats to

[2:07:42] public safety. Um the eastern portion of

[2:07:45] W 7 um consists of a number of

[2:07:47] industrial and commercial operations

[2:07:50] that because of the nature of the

[2:07:52] businesses present elevated fire risks

[2:07:55] if an incident were to occur. And just a

[2:07:58] few of these businesses, I rode with my

[2:08:00] mom up I35 just to verify, but just a

[2:08:03] few of these is um Insurance, Auto

[2:08:05] Auctions, um Across Chemicals, Hecro

[2:08:09] Rentals, Fireworks Warehouse, Oklahoma

[2:08:11] City, um Craft Tank Corporation, and

[2:08:14] Action Gypsum Supply. These facilities

[2:08:17] store and or utilize vehic uh vehicles,

[2:08:20] industrial equipment, chemicals,

[2:08:22] combustible building materials, fuel

[2:08:24] systems, fireworks, and other products

[2:08:26] that may require specialized uh

[2:08:29] firefighting resources. And while these

[2:08:31] businesses undoubtedly comply with

[2:08:33] applicable building codes and maintain

[2:08:36] insurance coverage, those safeguards do

[2:08:38] not eliminate the potential for impact

[2:08:40] of a fire if they were to arise. And so

[2:08:43] I'm petitioning for the city council to

[2:08:47] consider to initiate a comprehensive

[2:08:49] fire service service coverage study of W

[2:08:52] 7 east of I35. Evaluate the current

[2:08:55] emergency response times and projected

[2:08:57] future service demands. Identify

[2:08:59] potential sites for two strategically

[2:09:01] placed fire stations east of I35 and

[2:09:04] include these stations as a primary uh

[2:09:06] priority in future capital improvement

[2:09:08] planning and budget discussions. Um, I

[2:09:10] did also email this petition to um, Ward

[2:09:13] 7. Pennington, you should have this.

[2:09:15] It's not all that I have to say. Um, but

[2:09:17] this is just the start of if we actually

[2:09:20] want to enrich Oklahoma City,

[2:09:22] specifically W 7, because that is where

[2:09:23] I reside. Um, so that is where my

[2:09:26] concern is.

[2:09:28] » I may have misunderstood. Did you say

[2:09:29] you believe there are no Oklahoma City

[2:09:31] fire stations east of I35?

[2:09:32] » Uh, based on the the map at on the our

[2:09:36] website, I actually printed off our ward

[2:09:38] map. Um, and then I printed off the fire

[2:09:40] stations on that same exact map. I don't

[2:09:43] know if Oklahoma needs to update their

[2:09:45] maps, but

[2:09:46] » So, we have a we do have a map of fire

[2:09:48] stations on our OKC.gov website, and

[2:09:50] there are two east of I35 in Ward 7, uh,

[2:09:53] station 27 and station 4.

[2:09:55] » I'll you can you can actually have this.

[2:09:57] I have a copy of this.

[2:09:58] » Okay. Well, we'll certainly whatever

[2:09:59] that came from, we'll need to update it,

[2:10:01] but we have a fire station map and and

[2:10:03] we have two fire stations east of I35.

[2:10:05] Well, that's what's on the government

[2:10:06] website and that's the information that

[2:10:08] I'm basing my my words on.

[2:10:11] » All right. Well, we've got two. So,

[2:10:13] » Well, we need two more.

[2:10:16] I don't I don't think I don't think

[2:10:18] that's uh I mean

[2:10:20] » I mean if you look at if you look at

[2:10:21] that map and you see how congested fire

[2:10:23] stations west of I35 in certain

[2:10:26] particular areas there's they're there

[2:10:29] residents are more accessible to those

[2:10:31] fire stations and emergency resources if

[2:10:34] something were to happen where I

[2:10:35] actually live in Ward 7 if something

[2:10:37] were to occur because Oklahoma is not

[2:10:40] consistent or in a in a rush to fix

[2:10:44] roads. Um, you guys like to keep trains

[2:10:48] stopped on the on railroads.

[2:10:49] » We don't have any control.

[2:10:50] » So, yeah.

[2:10:51] » Um,

[2:10:52] » Okay. Amber Ramsey,

[2:10:54] » Happy to visit with you. I'll reach out.

[2:11:06] » Good morning, honorable mayor and

[2:11:08] council members. I'm going to kind of

[2:11:09] talk to the side because they apply

[2:11:11] mostly to me. My name is Amber Ramsey. I

[2:11:14] live at 2838 Cheyenne Way, Piedmont,

[2:11:16] Oklahoma. I actually work at a place

[2:11:19] that will be impacted by the decision

[2:11:21] you just made. Um, I'm a wife, a mother,

[2:11:24] a Republican, and I hope you guys can

[2:11:25] look at me and listen to me when I talk.

[2:11:27] It's important.

[2:11:30] I work in a profession where I serve the

[2:11:32] people of this great state every single

[2:11:34] day, much like you. And I still believe

[2:11:38] in our government, a government by and

[2:11:41] for the people. I would like to share

[2:11:43] some numbers with you today. In

[2:11:45] Piedmont, Kingfisher County, and

[2:11:48] Canadian County, there are third um

[2:11:51] 1,332

[2:11:52] acres. In Okie and King Fischer, 292

[2:11:56] acres, Cashion and Logan County, 509

[2:11:59] acres. Yukon and Oklahoma City, 546

[2:12:03] acres. Luther, 320 acres. all in

[2:12:07] disclosed land options or announced

[2:12:11] projects for data centers. Those are the

[2:12:13] land options that we know about. And

[2:12:15] please don't stop listening because I

[2:12:17] said that word data center. I know it's

[2:12:18] a hot topic.

[2:12:20] This is all immediately in our region.

[2:12:23] 300 acres. It's not one data center or

[2:12:27] just one city. It's an entire grid

[2:12:29] impacting the whole region.

[2:12:33] It's 3,000 total acres near homes in its

[2:12:37] co-located energy facilities.

[2:12:42] The question is is where does it end?

[2:12:44] Per the CEO of Cloverleaf at our last

[2:12:46] city council meeting, and I quote him

[2:12:48] exactly, it ends at the capacity of the

[2:12:52] electric grid.

[2:12:54] That's terrifying, but I disagree.

[2:12:58] It ends with you.

[2:13:01] Just as stated in that prayer, you set

[2:13:04] the standard for this state.

[2:13:08] You set the standard for Oklahoma and

[2:13:09] this nation.

[2:13:11] You speak for the people.

[2:13:14] You have to lead with compassion for

[2:13:17] your constituents. You have to have

[2:13:19] empathy for the fears they're having

[2:13:21] right now. You have to at least try and

[2:13:23] listen and look at me when I talk.

[2:13:30] Mr. Cooper, I can tell your empathy. I

[2:13:33] can feel it. You can tell you're a real

[2:13:34] person. Miss Avers, I've watched you.

[2:13:36] You're listening.

[2:13:38] » 30 seconds remaining.

[2:13:39] » Mr. Carter, it's easy to make decisions

[2:13:42] on your boundaries that you don't think

[2:13:44] impact you, but they do. We do not have

[2:13:48] the water for this for all of these data

[2:13:50] centers. But it's not fair to make

[2:13:52] decisions on your borders that impact

[2:13:54] the cities around you and it's not fair.

[2:13:57] You are in a position of leadership.

[2:14:00] There's a lot of weight to that and you

[2:14:02] do set that standard. I hope and I pray

[2:14:05] for each and every single one of you

[2:14:06] that you can handle that weight and that

[2:14:08] you can look at what's happening in our

[2:14:10] region. Please take a bigger look. Look

[2:14:12] around you, not in the small picture,

[2:14:14] the big picture. Thank you.

[2:14:18] Adam Slatterie.

[2:14:32] » Adam Slattery, 2330 Shell Creek Road,

[2:14:36] Oklahoma City, Yukon, wherever. Mr.

[2:14:38] Mayor, I think she was talking to you.

[2:14:41] You didn't look up one time when she was

[2:14:44] addressing you. It's disrespectful.

[2:14:46] Still don't choose to look up at me.

[2:14:49] Okay.

[2:14:50] So, I'll start now. Once again, for the

[2:14:52] ninth time, I've planned my week around

[2:14:55] being here on a Tuesday expecting to

[2:14:57] hear PUD 20 21105 2124.

[2:15:02] Why? because I'll be damned if I sit and

[2:15:05] listen to another meeting like February

[2:15:07] 10th where Councilman Stone Cipher,

[2:15:09] Councilman Carter,

[2:15:12] criticized, belittled a council woman I

[2:15:15] voted for.

[2:15:18] Um because as stated, there wasn't

[2:15:21] anybody present to speak in opposition

[2:15:23] to a pud that many neighbors believed

[2:15:26] was not in the best interest of our

[2:15:28] community.

[2:15:30] the despite those concerns being

[2:15:33] expressed in writing, the PUD was

[2:15:35] ultimately pushed forward and approved

[2:15:37] because why the threat that the

[2:15:39] landowner would lose the deal.

[2:15:43] Is that the same treatment we can expect

[2:15:46] when PUD 21105

[2:15:48] 2124 is finally heard

[2:15:52] after nine deferrals? Are we going to

[2:15:54] rubber stamp this because the deal may

[2:15:56] fall through for the owner? [snorts]

[2:15:59] And what are we doing here? Every one of

[2:16:01] you is elected to serve the people and

[2:16:05] represent

[2:16:07] the will of the constituents,

[2:16:10] not to make decisions based the

[2:16:11] possibility of land deal falling through

[2:16:14] being sued by a multi-billion dollar

[2:16:16] corporation

[2:16:19] over a zoning request that isn't

[2:16:21] compatible with the surrounding area or

[2:16:23] in the city's own comprehensive plan.

[2:16:28] Why are we continuing to spend so many

[2:16:30] resources, city manager, time

[2:16:34] negotiating, revising the applications

[2:16:36] while there's a moratorium in place?

[2:16:38] Across the city, across Oklahoma, across

[2:16:41] the country, communities are raising

[2:16:45] legitimate concerns about locating these

[2:16:48] types of developments in their

[2:16:49] communities.

[2:16:51] Shouldn't the voices of your residents

[2:16:54] carry more weight than the wishes of a

[2:16:56] corporation?

[2:16:59] These these two puds will set a

[2:17:01] significant precedent not only for the

[2:17:03] western edge of Oklahoma City.

[2:17:05] » 30 seconds.

[2:17:06] » But for communities throughout

[2:17:08] Canadian County,

[2:17:10] every concession made through the next

[2:17:12] amendments and every revision tailored

[2:17:14] to these applicants become the standard

[2:17:16] of the future. Mr. Pennington

[2:17:19] Luther's Luther borders you Canadian

[2:17:22] County may seem far right now, but this

[2:17:25] same developer is in Luther.

[2:17:28] You vote for this, you the city sets a

[2:17:30] precedent. They're coming to Oklahoma

[2:17:32] City. They're getting out of Luther.

[2:17:35] » I've got a little bit more to say, but

[2:17:36] Mr. Cooper, I appreciate your

[2:17:37] intentionality. Uh,

[2:17:39] » Mr. We are at time, but thank you.

[2:17:41] » Thank you.

[2:17:41] » Next up is Shauna Nelson.

[2:17:56] Hello, my name is Shauna Nelson. I live

[2:17:58] out in Pedmont. Um, I'm here because of

[2:18:00] the data centers. I am retired from the

[2:18:03] United States Navy. We when we got our

[2:18:06] orders to come to Oklahoma City, we were

[2:18:08] kind of shocked being in the Navy. Um,

[2:18:10] my husband retired out of Tinker Air

[2:18:12] Force Base. A lot of Navy out there.

[2:18:15] So when we chose the area, we thought we

[2:18:17] made the right decision after having to

[2:18:19] to move every few years. You go where

[2:18:21] the where the military tells you to go.

[2:18:23] So we chose our area. We just found out

[2:18:27] um about the data center in Pedmont, but

[2:18:29] that's not the only one. They have in in

[2:18:31] Yukon. They're trying to go in Oklahoma

[2:18:33] City, Luther, Cashion. It's not one area

[2:18:36] that's going to be affected. So it's not

[2:18:38] just Pemont I'm speaking of. Um, I

[2:18:41] didn't know anything about it because

[2:18:43] even though the Cloverleaf um,

[2:18:47] representative claims they're

[2:18:48] transparent, they're not. They go under

[2:18:50] multiple LLC's. They do um, Beltline,

[2:18:53] which is the one one of the the two

[2:18:55] trying to go to Pemont is in Luther.

[2:18:58] It's in He's in Yukon and he's in

[2:19:00] Oklahoma City. Um, they are trying they

[2:19:02] do NDAs. There's a reason why they are

[2:19:05] being so sneaky and you're not hearing

[2:19:07] about it in the news because it's not

[2:19:08] necessarily good for the environment. Um

[2:19:11] I think before any projects go forward,

[2:19:14] there needs to be more studies done for

[2:19:16] um electricity. As as Amber said, they

[2:19:19] even said they'll keep building until

[2:19:20] electricity grid is at capacity. Right

[2:19:23] now there's already um a high power

[2:19:25] transmission line proposed from Luther

[2:19:27] to north of Pedmont for the development.

[2:19:30] They were told it's not going to be for

[2:19:32] the data centers, but amazingly enough,

[2:19:34] that's what the representative from

[2:19:35] Clover Leaf said. They're cheating that

[2:19:37] area for the Mat Mat substation. Um so I

[2:19:41] think um taking a step back, if one area

[2:19:45] goes, the whole area goes. This isn't

[2:19:48] this doesn't seem to be good for

[2:19:49] Oklahoma City um or even for the state

[2:19:51] of Oklahoma. There's already some up in

[2:19:53] the Tulsa area and we're already getting

[2:19:55] push back. So I think I would request

[2:19:58] that um

[2:20:00] you take the time talk to the citizens

[2:20:03] because I don't think um not listening

[2:20:06] to your citizens is the appropriate

[2:20:07] thing because you are elected officials

[2:20:09] and they're trusting your judgment and

[2:20:12] um asking for studies um considering the

[2:20:14] historical significance of where some of

[2:20:17] these projects are going something to to

[2:20:19] take into consideration because once

[2:20:21] it's gone it's gone for good. Thank you.

[2:20:25] Thank you, Jana Dunaway.

[2:20:31] Okay, Jarrett Freeman.

[2:20:41] Good morning, council. Jarrett Freeman,

[2:20:43] 675 Parkwood Lane. I'm a W1 resident and

[2:20:47] I've spent the majority of this year

[2:20:48] reviewing our contract with the Flock

[2:20:50] Safety and the company behind it.

[2:20:52] Yesterday, a media outlet published a

[2:20:54] leaked internal document titled How to

[2:20:56] Speak to City Councils about public

[2:20:58] safety technology. This is a playbook

[2:21:01] that's given to uh police departments

[2:21:05] and it gives them scripts on how to

[2:21:07] defend flock at council meetings just

[2:21:09] like this one. It scripts opening lines

[2:21:12] for officers. It teaches them to reframe

[2:21:14] finances around quote the cost of

[2:21:16] unsolved crime. But here on page four,

[2:21:20] Flock itself writes, "Don't avoid the

[2:21:22] concept of mass surveillance because

[2:21:24] you're not going to convince opponents

[2:21:26] that it's not." This is Flock's own

[2:21:28] words in their own playbook.

[2:21:32] And Flock conceds what this platform is.

[2:21:34] It's mass surveillance. Under section

[2:21:36] 2.4 of the current contract with them,

[2:21:39] Flock retains the unilateral control

[2:21:42] over what these cameras do. Every

[2:21:44] capability that they've developed since

[2:21:46] 2023 was pushed to already installed

[2:21:48] devices. And even today, while this

[2:21:50] contract is under review, a new Flock

[2:21:53] camera went up one block away from my

[2:21:55] home with their uh Raven audio detector

[2:21:58] attached. No vote, no expanded

[2:22:01] authorization. Yet, Flock is already

[2:22:03] installing new devices and upgrading

[2:22:05] their capacity while we delay. On July

[2:22:08] 10th, the OCPD stated to me in writing

[2:22:11] that no records exist connecting flock

[2:22:13] to case outcomes. And then 3 days later,

[2:22:16] I'm sorry, 4 days later, the police

[2:22:18] union president went on television and

[2:22:20] called these same camera systems

[2:22:22] instrumental to their policy or to their

[2:22:24] success. But you can't call a system

[2:22:27] instrumental if you don't track its

[2:22:28] effectiveness. You can't. It can't be

[2:22:31] both. Last week, the OCBD confirmed to

[2:22:34] me in writing that an officer has

[2:22:36] already used the system for

[2:22:37] inappropriate purposes for the course of

[2:22:40] five months. That officer was caught and

[2:22:42] reprimanded because a private citizen

[2:22:44] filed a complaint. Let me say that

[2:22:46] again. OCPD officers have been confirmed

[2:22:50] using this system inappropriate already.

[2:22:54] When I asked for the platform's own

[2:22:56] audit log, they denied that to me. Today

[2:22:59] in OKC, the public is the only system to

[2:23:02] audit this platform. Every time this

[2:23:05] contract is defended, the defense is a

[2:23:07] single anecdote. A recovered car, maybe

[2:23:09] a silver alert cleared, but it's never

[2:23:11] data. It's never a platform.

[2:23:13] » 30 seconds.

[2:23:14] » Thank you. The statistics don't support

[2:23:17] the anecdote. LAPD's own inspector

[2:23:19] general audit found the system is wrong

[2:23:21] one in three times. Every wrong hit is a

[2:23:24] potential armed stop of an innocent

[2:23:26] person. In February, a Flock camera in

[2:23:29] Arkansas misread a plate and officers

[2:23:31] held the couple in that vehicle at

[2:23:32] gunpoint with their six-month-old child

[2:23:35] in the car seat. This is not a safety

[2:23:37] tool. This is a safety risk. Do not

[2:23:40] renew this contract. Get these cameras

[2:23:42] off of our streets and don't sign with

[2:23:44] another vendor. Thank you.

[2:23:45] » Excuse me. May I see that? And can I I

[2:23:49] just want to go make a copy for myself

[2:23:50] and my colleagues. I've just heard about

[2:23:52] that last night. Thank you.

[2:23:53] » Yes, sir.

[2:23:55] Carly Heightland.

[2:24:12] Hi, my name is Kari Highland. I'm a

[2:24:14] resident of Ward 2 and I'm here to

[2:24:16] present strong and widespread public

[2:24:19] opposition to renewing the flock

[2:24:21] contracts. Here you see 1,816

[2:24:26] signatures by your constituents. and

[2:24:29] they have agreed to demand that the

[2:24:31] Oklahoma City Council permanently

[2:24:33] terminates its contract with Flock at

[2:24:35] the earliest possible opportunity to do

[2:24:38] so. The earliest possible opportunity to

[2:24:40] do so has already passed and yet we are

[2:24:43] still urging you to terminate OKC's

[2:24:46] contract with Flock. Our community is

[2:24:48] engaged. Every time you delay this vote,

[2:24:51] our numbers for this petition and for

[2:24:53] support against Flock grows. Continually

[2:24:57] delaying this vote allows Flock to

[2:24:59] continue installing new cameras,

[2:25:01] surveilling us, and collecting our data

[2:25:04] without proper storage. In effect, each

[2:25:07] time this vote is delayed, the council

[2:25:09] is casting their vote to continue the

[2:25:12] contract for two weeks or more without

[2:25:14] hearing public comment and listening to

[2:25:17] citizen concerns. I am sure you have all

[2:25:20] received direct outreach from your

[2:25:22] constituents. And the over 1,800 people

[2:25:25] who have signed this petition, plus many

[2:25:27] others I have spoken with, have three

[2:25:29] key demands. Number one, have the OKC

[2:25:32] city council not renew the flock

[2:25:34] contract. Number two, remove our current

[2:25:37] flock cameras. And number three, do not

[2:25:39] partner with another AP alpr vendor. I

[2:25:43] hope you will take the time to read

[2:25:45] these petitions, to read the names of

[2:25:47] your constituents, the people who these

[2:25:49] cameras are affecting. I have personally

[2:25:52] spoken with hundreds of Oklahomaans

[2:25:54] about flock surveillance surveillance,

[2:25:56] and I tell you that it is rare to find

[2:25:58] an issue that Oklahomaans are so united

[2:26:01] on. Your constituents have spoken loud

[2:26:04] and clear. We want flock out of our

[2:26:06] city. And as residents of Oklahoma City

[2:26:09] and the people being surveiled by flock

[2:26:11] cameras, we urge you to stand with us,

[2:26:13] your constituents, put this issue to a

[2:26:16] vote, and vote not to renew the contract

[2:26:18] with Flock Safety. You will continue

[2:26:20] hearing from us until this happens.

[2:26:22] Thank you.

[2:26:25] » Thank you, CJ Carpenter.

[2:26:40] Good morning. Thank the council for

[2:26:41] their time. I am your neighbor in

[2:26:44] Canadian County and the item you're

[2:26:46] considering 9C. Thank you for postponing

[2:26:49] it. My wife and I are both school

[2:26:51] teachers, so we will be unavailable

[2:26:52] August 18th. So, I must make our wishes

[2:26:55] known today. What is a city? A city is a

[2:26:58] collection of neighbors who live

[2:27:00] together for mutual benefit, protection,

[2:27:03] and support.

[2:27:05] And so, uh, we are your neighbors. Thank

[2:27:07] you. We buy your water. Thank you so

[2:27:09] much for being neighbors to us in

[2:27:11] Canadian County. I live in one of the

[2:27:14] three neighborhoods that would be

[2:27:16] considered ground zero for the noise,

[2:27:19] the pollution, and the other things

[2:27:20] we're considering with Cloverleaf.

[2:27:23] Um, you're well aware, you're well

[2:27:25] verssed in the issues. I can only speak

[2:27:27] from a father's heart. My wife and I are

[2:27:29] raising five children. Um I have a

[2:27:32] condition uh known as tenitus. It's very

[2:27:34] common in tenitis, right, with the

[2:27:36] ringing in the ears. Mine comes with

[2:27:38] what's called recruitment

[2:27:40] and it can be crippling. Please do not

[2:27:43] fill our home and neighborhood with the

[2:27:47] the decibel level of a vacuum cleaner

[2:27:50] constantly running. We will have to sell

[2:27:52] our house.

[2:27:55] My youngest son is nine and a half and

[2:27:57] he's already asking for Christmas

[2:27:59] presents. You know how they do. He wants

[2:28:01] a telescope. With our current level of

[2:28:03] of light pollution, we can see about 15

[2:28:06] stars and planets.

[2:28:08] He wants to tell us, he's very serious

[2:28:10] about that. Please do not fill us with

[2:28:13] additional light pollution. We we would

[2:28:15] be less than a mile, scarcely a mile

[2:28:17] from the proposed site for your for your

[2:28:19] PUD.

[2:28:22] Lastly, my middle son um was our asthma

[2:28:26] patient and we spent many nights in

[2:28:28] hospitals and uh paying very high doctor

[2:28:31] bills getting him through that that

[2:28:33] rough period. Well, by the grace of God,

[2:28:35] he is now 15 and he's beaten a lot of

[2:28:38] his childhood asthma and he's actually

[2:28:40] come out for cross country. He's now

[2:28:42] running two and a half miles, three

[2:28:43] miles every morning. Very proud of that

[2:28:45] young man.

[2:28:47] Please do not fill our backyard air with

[2:28:51] diesel exhaust and phthalates that are

[2:28:53] going to his breathing and set

[2:28:55] us back.

[2:28:57] You're our neighbors, Oklahoma City.

[2:28:59] We've tried to be good neighbors. We're

[2:29:01] we're nice people in Canadian County. We

[2:29:04] appreciate you guys so much, but you're

[2:29:06] the biggest city in the state. You're

[2:29:08] the leaders of this state and people are

[2:29:11] looking to you for president.

[2:29:12] » 30 seconds, please.

[2:29:14] » That's all I have for you. Thank you for

[2:29:15] your time.

[2:29:17] Thank you. Steve Hunt.

[2:29:20] » Sorry, what?

[2:29:22] » Oh, next name. Steve Hunt.

[2:29:31] » Steve Hunt 6300. Um, like to request the

[2:29:34] U person doing the production to get a

[2:29:37] shot of Dave staring down at his ADL

[2:29:40] Defender of Democracy Award while I

[2:29:42] speak. That would be pretty good.

[2:29:45] Um, we have a couple different things

[2:29:47] that I want to talk about. Um, about how

[2:29:51] nobody wants to be surveiled. Nobody

[2:29:53] wants to be surveiled. And here's a

[2:29:56] little story about that. Um, couple

[2:29:59] months ago, I had some some people know

[2:30:02] that I'm a big cigar afficionado. And uh

[2:30:05] some friends of mine at the uh burn

[2:30:07] lounge contacted me saying that Dave and

[2:30:12] some of his friends went in there and

[2:30:14] that there was someone

[2:30:16] someone with them that asked asked them

[2:30:19] to turn the uh security cameras off and

[2:30:24] I'm like what it's like yep

[2:30:28] and I don't know who who was with him.

[2:30:30] Do you know who was it, Dave?

[2:30:34] I think maybe it was Silver Lake Capital

[2:30:35] or someone because they were all in

[2:30:37] suits and there was someone that may

[2:30:38] have been a security guy or something,

[2:30:39] but they they went up there and say,

[2:30:41] "Can you please turn the security

[2:30:42] cameras off?" And of course, they're

[2:30:44] like, "Our insurance won't let us do

[2:30:45] that." But that's just a little story

[2:30:47] about how people don't like to be

[2:30:49] surveiled.

[2:30:53] » [sighs]

[2:30:56] » So, a little update on uh Thunder Radio

[2:31:00] and Television. Um I've been speaking

[2:31:03] about how the uh equity private equity

[2:31:06] adjacent company Main Street Sports who

[2:31:09] did the uh Thunder TV is insolvent, no

[2:31:12] longer exists. and Cumulus, who does the

[2:31:16] radio, just filed their second uh

[2:31:18] chapter 11, and they're waiting the uh

[2:31:23] administration,

[2:31:24] the FCC to give their licenses over to

[2:31:26] their creditors. And that's probably not

[2:31:28] going to happen until the season starts.

[2:31:31] And it's just crazy that there's like no

[2:31:34] discussion whatsoever about this because

[2:31:36] the people have given billions of

[2:31:38] dollars and they've been having to pay

[2:31:41] to watch the Thunder. And that's because

[2:31:43] they were trying to get the citizens to

[2:31:46] help Main Street Sports

[2:31:49] service their debt. And that's that's

[2:31:51] the problem. That's why I always talk

[2:31:52] about private equity because when we

[2:31:54] hand contracts to them,

[2:31:56] » It's all like super highly leveraged

[2:31:58] debt and they rarely pay off anything

[2:32:02] other than the interest. That's why shut

[2:32:04] down because their IBIDA was 13 million

[2:32:07] less than

[2:32:09] » Uh their debt interest. And um there's a

[2:32:13] lot to talk about on that stuff and I

[2:32:15] can't do it in 17 seconds. So I want to

[2:32:17] recommend a book to the people out in

[2:32:19] channel 20 land watching on YouTube.

[2:32:22] Lords of Easy Money. This is one of the

[2:32:25] best books I've ever read and it

[2:32:26] explains how our recovery money and our

[2:32:31] Zer money from the housing collapse all

[2:32:33] went to these equity firms to buy these

[2:32:35] businesses that are now taking over the

[2:32:38] functionality of our municipality. So,

[2:32:41] thank you

[2:32:41] » Gregory Brown.

[2:32:46] » Okay, Joseph Ross.

[2:32:58] » I want to thank I want to thank the

[2:32:59] committee who's been uh paying attention

[2:33:01] and kind of keeping their heads up and

[2:33:03] seeing what's going on with the people

[2:33:05] that's talking. You know, uh I think we

[2:33:07] got some really important concerns. Uh,

[2:33:09] I came to talk to y'all about the flock

[2:33:10] situation. Um, just recently I was

[2:33:13] pulled over by a police officer for uh

[2:33:17] something illegal. I'm a first amendment

[2:33:19] auditor and I go around recording police

[2:33:21] officers uh making sure to not violate

[2:33:23] any of our rights. And um as I'm leaving

[2:33:27] uh a police officer stopped uh a police

[2:33:30] officer actually stopped me and he told

[2:33:32] me uh you know hey you know I'm going to

[2:33:35] write you a ticket and you know why were

[2:33:37] you recording and all this other crap

[2:33:41] and as I was leaving he he tells me he

[2:33:44] says hey are you affiliated with any

[2:33:47] motorcycle gang members because I'm on a

[2:33:49] motorcycle now. I didn't have on any

[2:33:51] motorcycle uh insignia. I didn't have on

[2:33:54] any patches or cuts or vests, but at the

[2:33:57] end of the conversation when I asked him

[2:33:59] I free to go, he told me he was going to

[2:34:00] put me in the flock system as a outlaw

[2:34:03] motorcycle gang member. Now, um you

[2:34:07] know, in no shape, form or fashion am I

[2:34:09] a gang member. I'm not an outlaw. I'm

[2:34:12] not a oneenter. But for him to use the

[2:34:16] flock system to put me in the system as

[2:34:19] a criminal as affiliated with criminals

[2:34:22] or known outlaws.

[2:34:25] That's that's not that's not cool. I I

[2:34:28] don't I don't think that this system was

[2:34:31] used to uh do things like this. Uh,

[2:34:35] another thing that I heard, uh, when I

[2:34:37] got pulled over for the same illegal tag

[2:34:40] display a month before, uh, but that

[2:34:43] officer, he was joking, you know, he

[2:34:45] made a joke about it. He was like, "Hey,

[2:34:46] I'm going to put you in the system. So,

[2:34:49] uh, you know, in case you commit any

[2:34:50] crimes, you know, we know where you work

[2:34:52] at. We're just going to come pick you up

[2:34:53] from work." It's [snorts] it's it's sad

[2:34:57] that you guys can use these cameras and

[2:34:59] stuff to target citizens in the

[2:35:01] community. But one thing that these

[2:35:03] flock cameras don't do, I want y'all to

[2:35:05] think about, they're not targeting you

[2:35:07] guys. They're not targeting government

[2:35:08] officials or police officers who's

[2:35:10] running red lights, who's speeding, uh

[2:35:13] who's committing crimes. Y'all flock

[2:35:15] cameras aren't aren't aren't aren't used

[2:35:18] for

[2:35:20] anyone but a targeted community that

[2:35:23] y'all feel like it's should be targeted

[2:35:25] towards. And I know in 2 seconds I have

[2:35:28] 30 seconds.

[2:35:29] » Seconds.

[2:35:30] » Thank you so much. If you notice also as

[2:35:33] we're up here on this stand talking,

[2:35:35] there's a couple of people, well,

[2:35:37] there's a few people that are engaged

[2:35:39] and paying attention to our

[2:35:40] conversation, but there's so many people

[2:35:42] that's not. And I want to bring

[2:35:45] something else to your attention, too.

[2:35:46] That's why terms there shouldn't be any

[2:35:49] uh any rest there should be restrictions

[2:35:52] on how long you can be in office because

[2:35:55] I think some people get comfortable in

[2:35:56] their position and they just don't care

[2:35:58] anymore. Thank you,

[2:36:00] » Stephanie Bertine.

[2:36:23] Good morning. Stephanie Berdine, 515

[2:36:26] Maple, Yukon, Oklahoma. For the people

[2:36:29] who weren't here at the last meeting,

[2:36:31] I'll play the audio again of uh from the

[2:36:35] University of Texas School of

[2:36:36] Engineering recorded in Roundrock, Texas

[2:36:39] of Hypers Scale Data Centers, uh 1500 ft

[2:36:44] away.

[2:36:51] If you pass 21105 and 21104,

[2:36:56] uh, you're going to set a precedence for

[2:36:59] the most unpopular thing in the United

[2:37:01] States of America right now, hypers

[2:37:03] scale data centers. Um, the one that

[2:37:07] this put applies to is 300 ft, a mere

[2:37:12] 300 ft away from houses in Yukon.

[2:37:18] Now, this is not just going to affect

[2:37:20] Yukon. It's going to affect the whole

[2:37:22] metro if you pass this because

[2:37:26] not just the noise, but the Southwest

[2:37:29] Power Grid um is currently operating

[2:37:33] under emergency order 202-26-31

[2:37:37] section 202

[2:37:40] C of the federal power um

[2:37:44] of the Fowler Pedro Act. Um the next

[2:37:48] step is level three. That's an emergency

[2:37:50] pre to prevent rolling blackouts. Um if

[2:37:54] we don't have any power, if we're in

[2:37:57] that kind of shape, how are we going to

[2:37:59] support uh data centers in the metro

[2:38:02] area? Who's going to be first in line

[2:38:04] for power when we get to level three? Is

[2:38:07] it going to be the hospitals? Is it

[2:38:09] going to be homes? Is it going to be the

[2:38:11] three largest three largest industries

[2:38:14] in Oklahoma City that uh help our

[2:38:17] country and security FAA,

[2:38:20] the National Weather Service, Tinker, or

[2:38:23] do the data centers win? And why in the

[2:38:27] world are we going to let speculators

[2:38:30] trying to trade a packaged idea of

[2:38:33] economic relief to municipalities

[2:38:36] uh to really come before the citizens of

[2:38:39] the metro and their right to peaceful

[2:38:42] existence?

[2:38:43] And then I'd like to know what's the

[2:38:45] legacy you all want to leave. Mayor

[2:38:48] Holt, you're uh doing some fantastic

[2:38:51] things.

[2:38:52] » 30 seconds remaining. But what what do

[2:38:55] you want your legacy to be? Do you want

[2:38:57] it to be the Olympics? Do you want it to

[2:38:59] be the thunder, the arts? That Oklahoma

[2:39:02] City is a destination? Because if PUD

[2:39:05] 21105 and 21 pass, your legacy is going

[2:39:08] to be data centers. And I really wonder

[2:39:11] what a lady we have in common would be

[2:39:13] thinking right now of that boy on the

[2:39:15] culdeac. I really wonder what Judy

[2:39:17] Lindsay would think of these data

[2:39:20] centers because I have a feeling she

[2:39:22] wouldn't be for them. Thank you for your

[2:39:24] time.

[2:39:25] » Kristen Schubel,

[2:39:29] » Kristen Schubel.

[2:39:43] Hello. Uh Kristen Shouil from War 2.

[2:39:46] Again, I spoke here recently on Flock. I

[2:39:49] uh ran out of time, so I'm back to

[2:39:50] running a bit more.

[2:39:52] Um there's a tendency in some circles to

[2:39:56] dis to dismiss worries over data

[2:39:58] centers, AI, and flock as a bunch of

[2:40:01] baloo from ignorant leites. And I'd like

[2:40:04] to push back on that perception. It used

[2:40:07] to be that when big tech sold the public

[2:40:10] on new tech, it led with obvious

[2:40:12] benefits. Google gave us super fast,

[2:40:15] far-reaching search engine that could

[2:40:17] organize the web for our perusal. And it

[2:40:20] kept one uping itself with Gmail, Google

[2:40:23] Earth, Google Fiber, and more. Facebook

[2:40:26] promised to keep us connected to our

[2:40:27] social circles and connect us to new

[2:40:29] people. Apple gave us these tiny little

[2:40:32] pocket computers with smooth home

[2:40:34] buttons that felt great to the touch.

[2:40:37] Originally, these were products where

[2:40:38] the customer experience was top of mind.

[2:40:41] These once great features have almost

[2:40:44] universally declined in quality and

[2:40:46] functionality. Now, you're lucky if you

[2:40:48] can find via search what you were able

[2:40:50] to find 10 or even 20 years ago. Those

[2:40:54] lovely home buttons were removed many

[2:40:56] years ago in favor of more efficient

[2:40:57] production. While Apple's prices

[2:40:59] continued to rise, and Facebook I won't

[2:41:02] even comment on. [laughter]

[2:41:03] Now big tech doesn't even bother making

[2:41:05] helpful tools for the people. They have

[2:41:07] taken the trust they earned and spent it

[2:41:09] on contracts with big businesses and

[2:41:11] governments. There is a trend of

[2:41:13] technologies being pushed is benefiting

[2:41:15] our safety and wellness while actually

[2:41:17] limiting our privacy and decreasing

[2:41:19] feelings of safety. For many of us, this

[2:41:22] entire information age has felt like a

[2:41:24] bait and switch as we enter the age of,

[2:41:26] pardon my French, inshitification.

[2:41:29] This is not baseless paranoia you're

[2:41:31] seeing. This is people who are fed up

[2:41:33] with real abuses by big tech and their

[2:41:35] expanding tentacles which seem to make

[2:41:38] everything they touch worse. It has to

[2:41:40] do with lacks and sometimes undemocratic

[2:41:42] municipalities.

[2:41:44] I'd like to suggest that supporters of

[2:41:46] these technologies sleep comfortably

[2:41:49] because they believe they'll never be

[2:41:50] the target of these systems. They don't

[2:41:52] have any weird beliefs. They don't have

[2:41:55] any punk rock magazines from high

[2:41:56] school. They perceive themselves as

[2:41:58] upright members of our community who can

[2:42:00] only benefit from the protections

[2:42:02] brought by these omnipresent cameras. I

[2:42:05] don't have that trust. And not because

[2:42:06] I'm a bad guy or a criminal, but because

[2:42:09] the law can go wrong even in the hands

[2:42:11] of good actors. And in the last year,

[2:42:14] not necessarily here, citizens have been

[2:42:16] detained, deported, arrested, and jailed

[2:42:19] for their beliefs. 30 seconds remaining.

[2:42:22] » Shoot. Our Secretary of State, Marco

[2:42:24] Rubio, last month released a list of

[2:42:26] dangerous leftist terrorists, including

[2:42:29] the co-owner of Ben & Jerry's.

[2:42:32] Why on earth would I trust the state or

[2:42:34] a connected third party like Flock with

[2:42:36] more power, to surveil me and everyone

[2:42:38] else? We seem to be entering another Red

[2:42:41] Scare. And I do worry this tech will be

[2:42:43] used by actors beyond this city to to

[2:42:46] take advantage of our data and for the

[2:42:48] purpose of ideological suppression.

[2:42:51] Uh oh boy. Uh since I'm running out of

[2:42:53] time, um I hope for better from this

[2:42:56] council when it comes to scrutinizing

[2:42:58] flock and other big tech vendors that

[2:43:00] come through these parts. Um I want to

[2:43:03] give a shout out to Jared Freeman

[2:43:05] because I think we're

[2:43:06] » We're at time. Good work. Okay. Thank

[2:43:08] you. Nella Truman,

[2:43:11] if I'm saying that right.

[2:43:24] » Good morning, council mayor.

[2:43:27] How are you? Um, I have a whole bunch

[2:43:30] written to say today. Um, my name is

[2:43:34] Pencia Truhan. I live at 2401 Lost Lake

[2:43:37] Lane, your ward three um Yukon address,

[2:43:41] Oklahoma City limits and onethird of a

[2:43:44] mile from where the data centers would

[2:43:46] be. I am retired. I have my dreamhouse

[2:43:51] of almost six acres. I have horses. I

[2:43:54] have retired raceh horses from the

[2:43:55] track. Um one is 32 years old. Um I

[2:44:01] can't imagine what his life would be

[2:44:02] like listening to that hum. He's outside

[2:44:05] 24/7. I have other horses. Um, I had a

[2:44:10] lot to say. Um, I'm nervous. I'm scared.

[2:44:14] I haven't slept much since all this has

[2:44:16] been going on. Um, it's affecting my

[2:44:20] life. Should I put money in my house?

[2:44:23] Should I stop? What's my home value

[2:44:25] going to be? This is the biggest thing I

[2:44:27] have is my home, my horses, and my life

[2:44:30] where I live. And this could all be

[2:44:32] taken from me.

[2:44:34] Um

[2:44:36] it's very personal.

[2:44:39] I uh I had a whole bunch written to say

[2:44:43] um but basically these data centers do

[2:44:46] not belong in our communities. This is

[2:44:48] our community. We are basically a few

[2:44:51] houses on Ridgeland and two

[2:44:54] subdivisions, mine and one across the

[2:44:56] street of 17 homes. There's not a lot of

[2:44:58] us. We all have 5 to 10 acres. Um, but I

[2:45:04] have my dream place and my dreams are at

[2:45:07] stake here. And um, I hope you realize

[2:45:12] this is dire for us out there. Dire.

[2:45:17] Thank you for hearing me and you'll be

[2:45:19] reading my emails more. Appreciate your

[2:45:21] time. Thank you,

[2:45:23] » Ronnie Kirk.

[2:45:34] My name is Ronnie Kirk.

[2:45:36] My address is 2328

[2:45:39] North Missouri.

[2:45:41] Today I'm here to vent about our

[2:45:45] government

[2:45:47] about all the data centers

[2:45:51] 258

[2:45:56] you know 50 years ago

[2:46:01] I worked at a data center

[2:46:04] had 8,000 people work there

[2:46:08] in 20 years I retired from there

[2:46:12] there was only 20 people that I know

[2:46:17] after the government does so much in

[2:46:19] secrecy

[2:46:21] all these data centers

[2:46:24] you know

[2:46:26] President Lincoln he freed the slaves

[2:46:30] President

[2:46:33] Harry Truman

[2:46:35] president dropped the atomic bomb

[2:46:41] Kennedy

[2:46:43] put the man on the moon.

[2:46:48] All the I mean our government

[2:46:53] in seven years they plan on

[2:46:58] going back to the moon and put habitat

[2:47:01] up there. That's when I think all these

[2:47:04] they need all these plants so when they

[2:47:07] start making stuff at different ones

[2:47:10] they can have a plant a missile launched

[2:47:14] in a month's time.

[2:47:17] So that's why I think

[2:47:20] that they're doing it. I'm getting old

[2:47:22] in my life. I've seen a lot of stuff and

[2:47:26] I believe this is going to happen in

[2:47:29] 2030

[2:47:33] they plan on being on the moon. Thank

[2:47:37] you.

[2:47:39] » Thank you. That concludes citizens to be

[2:47:41] heard which brings us item 14

[2:47:42] adjournment and we are adjourned.

City Council - 8/4/2026 1:30:00 PM

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