[8:42] .

[8:43] All right.

[8:43] Good morning.

[8:44] I will now call a city council

[8:47] meeting on Monday MARCH 16th,

[8:48] 2026 to order Deputy Clerk

[8:51] Please call the roll

[8:53] Councilmember Campbell Campbell

[9:02] I'm here.

[9:02] Thank you, Councilmember.

[9:03] What brought Councilmember

[9:03] Woodburn here?

[9:04] Councilmember Foster

[9:05] Councilmember Yvonne Wolpert

[9:10] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

[9:11] here Council Member to you hear

[9:14] Council Member Moreno present

[9:15] Council member Ella Rivera and

[9:18] Council PRESIDENT LaCava

[9:19] present.

[9:19] Also attending the meeting are

[9:20] City Attorney Heather Herbert,

[9:24] Independent budget analyst

[9:25] Charles Monica and myself your

[9:28] assistant city Clerk dg

[9:29] Pantaleo.

[9:29] >> All right, thank you.

[9:30] A quorum is now present.

[9:34] We will begin this morning with

[9:35] an invocation by Deputy clerk

[9:35] John followed with the land

[9:37] acknowledgment and the pledge

[9:38] of Allegiance by council member

[9:42] Campbell.

[9:43] We respectfully acknowledge

[9:47] that the I'm sorry Oh I'm sorry

[9:51] Grant Those who hold office in

[9:52] the city the spirit of wisdom,

[9:52] charity and justice that with

[9:56] steadfast purpose they MAY

[9:56] faithfully serve in their

[9:57] offices to promote

[10:01] the well-being of all people.

[10:01] We respectfully acknowledge

[10:06] that the Kumia are the original

[10:10] inhabitants of the Unceded land

[10:11] now known as San Diego.

[10:12] Despite enduring the horrors of

[10:16] genocide and colonization,

[10:16] the community spirit remains

[10:17] unbroken.

[10:20] We honor the resilience of

[10:21] their ancestors who fought to

[10:25] protect their culture and land

[10:25] .

[10:26] Today they carry their legacy

[10:30] forward ensuring that their

[10:31] traditions continue to thrive

[10:31] in gratitude and strength.

[10:35] We stand with the culmination

[10:36] connected to our past and

[10:40] committed to its thriving

[10:40] future.

[10:41] Please raise the flag Put your

[10:45] right hand over your heart and

[10:45] let's say the Pledge of

[10:46] Allegiance together Pledge

[10:50] allegiance to the flag of

[10:51] the United States of America

[10:55] and to the Republic for which

[10:56] it stands One nation under GOD

[11:09] indivisible with.

[11:10] >> All right.

[11:10] The deputy clerk will now go

[11:14] over how the public can offer

[11:14] their testimony.

[11:15] >> Please proceed.

[11:18] I will now highlight the slide

[11:18] on the screen that reviews how

[11:19] the public can offer the public

[11:20] testimony during today's

[11:23] meeting.

[11:24] If you are in person please

[11:25] complete a speaker select

[11:25] located at the entrance of

[11:28] chambers and bring it to

[11:29] the front of the room.

[11:30] No further in-person testimony

[11:30] will be taken once the council

[11:33] begins virtual testimony for

[11:33] better meeting management

[11:34] purposes.

[11:37] Each speaker will have one

[11:38] minute per item per person.

[11:42] >> All right.

[11:42] Thank you Deputy Clerk.

[11:43] With that please read

[11:44] the closed session items into

[11:46] the record and proceed with

[11:47] public comment.

[11:48] >> Conference with Legal

[11:51] Counsel Existing Litigation

[11:52] pursuant to California

[11:56] Government Code Section 5495

[11:59] 6.91 See as 1st JANUARY 2020

[12:00] JANUARY 22nd 2024 Floating

[12:00] Litigation California

[12:04] Government Code Section

[12:05] 54957862 Critical

[12:09] infrastructure information

[12:10] relating to cybersecurity

[12:10] conference with legal counsel

[12:14] significant exposure to

[12:15] litigation pursuant to

[12:18] California Government Code

[12:19] Section 54956. 9d263 Number of

[12:25] cases one and proceed with

[12:26] public offering.

[12:30] Okay I have Thank you Counsel

[12:30] PRESIDENT We do not have any

[12:34] in-person public comment so I

[12:35] will now start the five minute

[12:37] timer and go to our virtual

[12:42] comment will go to original

[12:47] draft.

[12:48] Please let me know what items

[12:51] you'd like to speak to that So

[12:52] if there's other callers are

[12:53] going to be aware of what's

[12:56] happening.

[12:57] Hello Could you could you

[13:01] repeat that again?

[13:06] I can't hear anything can we?

[13:09] We can't hear you.

[13:10] Can you repeat what you're

[13:14] saying?

[13:19] She can't hear us.

[13:20] Okay.

[13:21] Let me see if I could put up

[13:26] the volume.

[13:36] Can you hear us now?

[13:37] I think you need to fix it

[13:41] before moving forward because

[13:42] it's obvious there's something

[13:42] wrong.

[13:51] We could hear you in chambers.

[13:54] >> Can you hear us?

[14:05] Original draft talking to her

[14:23] But did you hear us now?

[14:24] So there's no we can We can go

[14:28] over to the next one where she

[14:34] can Yeah original which I will

[14:35] I we'll move to the next caller

[14:36] and we'll put you back on

[14:46] the queue.

[14:47] Okay We have the next caller

[14:48] Blaire Beekman have allowed you

[14:52] to speak Could you speak could

[14:52] you state which closed session

[14:57] items you'd like to speak to?

[15:00] Sarah Well I think one is also

[15:01] here Now if we could hear you

[15:05] or Blair and I can hear Drey

[15:06] Okay you guys here it's in

[15:07] the council chambers.

[15:07] It's it's pretty low.

[15:11] She was very in hear

[15:16] the council chambers But I can

[15:17] Can you hang on for one second,

[15:17] please?

[15:17] We're having technical

[15:18] difficulty.

[15:22] You seem like city unmuted and

[15:23] but that's a little bit of

[15:23] sound came in but then it

[15:27] needed that exactly I same

[15:35] doing Yeah yeah I can get my

[15:36] public comment if you like okay

[15:40] perfect it's okay okay we could

[15:41] start We can start now.

[15:41] Could you please substitute Can

[15:48] you harass Blair I got muted

[15:52] when Blair came.

[15:52] I'm still unmuted so maybe I

[15:57] will try to speak up.

[16:00] >> MR. Bateman?

[16:00] >> MR. Bateman, could you hear

[16:04] me okay.

[16:05] You be cool about this now.

[16:07] So calm head.

[16:12] MR. Bateman, can you hear us?

[16:18] Any other options?

[16:19] I think we're just going to

[16:26] have to call and I guess I

[16:31] tried.

[16:32] >> I wanted to speak to three

[16:34] items MR. Beekman, can you hear

[16:42] us now?

[16:43] >> Thank you.

[16:48] I wanted to speak to Yes, one's

[16:49] here.

[16:49] Students Here Three Okay.

[16:52] Please.

[16:53] Please proceed.

[16:53] Maybe I can just try to speak

[16:57] now and see how that impact can

[16:58] ,you know, go through your

[16:59] chambers.

[16:59] >> Okay, good.

[17:02] The timer started so I will

[17:03] speak to that item and

[17:04] hopefully that can be a

[17:04] starting point for ourselves

[17:05] and maybe we can work on it as

[17:08] a meeting goes on for this one

[17:12] I have a good luck to ourselves

[17:12] that we're working on on

[17:17] platitudes as a community

[17:18] process.

[17:18] Very nice to are mentioned at a

[17:21] previous meeting I was

[17:21] attending.

[17:22] >> It's a crazy scenario that

[17:25] they're both suing and

[17:26] countersuing going on over what

[17:27] issues in what was a natural

[17:31] disaster and in a certain

[17:32] responsibility this city of San

[17:35] Diego has in these sort of

[17:36] issues I hope both sides I

[17:40] think the reason why San Diego

[17:41] is countersuing is to kind of

[17:45] limit and mitigate the suing

[17:45] claims of people.

[17:49] I hope that people suing and

[17:50] the city of San Diego can both

[17:54] take a deep breath and mellow

[17:55] out as much as they can and

[17:56] come to reasonable agreements

[18:00] together and not go for all out

[18:01] craziness for a really bad

[18:04] situation.

[18:05] Good luck.

[18:05] We work on this together.

[18:06] I know you're trying.

[18:07] I thought I'd just remind

[18:07] everyone everybody of that

[18:12] right now.

[18:13] Item number Uh, there was

[18:14] another item I guess the closed

[18:18] session the item about Brown

[18:18] Act issues.

[18:22] It seems like you're being

[18:23] there's Brown Act violations

[18:27] going on again that you're

[18:27] having to address.

[18:31] I know that the Council and

[18:32] City government of California

[18:33] really love the rules of order

[18:36] and they follow that to

[18:37] the letter and that's forms of

[18:38] representational democracy

[18:41] representation in public it's

[18:42] more internalized, it's more of

[18:46] an egalitarian list of

[18:47] parliamentary procedures

[18:48] whereas the Brown Act is more

[18:51] you know, the open is a bit

[18:52] more democratic process created

[18:56] by legislature or you know, our

[19:00] public and we have a public

[19:01] that really wants to practice

[19:02] open participatory democracy

[19:05] where you guys in the city

[19:06] government always want to

[19:06] practice you know

[19:07] representational democracy and

[19:10] egalitarianism parliamentary

[19:10] procedures and that's more

[19:15] secretive and hidden and it

[19:16] makes things uncomfortable.

[19:16] I hope we really want to be,

[19:19] you know, making the effort to

[19:20] want to explore open

[19:20] participatory democracy is good

[19:24] procedure ideas and how to

[19:25] understand our issues more

[19:25] clearly.

[19:29] We don't have to think of it

[19:30] mob rule I can go on for a long

[19:34] time about this and

[19:35] the goodness of open

[19:35] participant participatory

[19:38] democracy When it is time we

[19:39] can practice it better.

[19:39] Let's hope we can.

[19:43] I also wanted to conclude that

[19:47] I do for item the second item i

[19:47] i'm not remembering its nature

[19:48] probably right now I'm going to

[19:52] have to pass Good luck that you

[19:53] can fix the council zoom issues

[19:54] at this time and snappers thank

[20:01] you for your time and patience

[20:01] .

[20:02] Your time is concluded and I

[20:05] can I go now or I just want to

[20:06] make sure I'm not being skipped

[20:06] on.

[20:10] Oh I that's okay Now it's a

[20:14] really echoey I'm just trying

[20:15] to keep you guys up to date but

[20:19] I could hear Blair very clear.

[20:20] I felt like I was on the phone

[20:20] with him and you sound like

[20:24] you're in a tunnel or

[20:24] something, But anyway, I'll

[20:25] just thank you for your

[20:25] patience.

[20:28] Please proceed.

[20:28] Okay.

[20:30] I'm going to speak on all of

[20:32] them.

[20:33] Yes.

[20:33] I appreciate you, Blair and

[20:34] what you had to say about all

[20:38] that with this season one with

[20:42] the JANUARY flooding that had

[20:43] taken place And you know, you

[20:44] guys are countersuing many of

[20:48] these people And that's what's

[20:48] so sad is that you're even

[20:49] asking and coming at the people

[20:52] for $5 Billion because this

[20:56] storm infrastructure is

[20:57] basically at its end of life

[20:57] and we shouldn't be in that

[20:58] place.

[21:01] So it's a little bit scary to

[21:01] think about what could take

[21:02] place knowing that

[21:05] the infrastructure is still not

[21:06] going to be at a place where

[21:07] it's going to be able to

[21:11] sustain anything especially

[21:12] when weather modification is

[21:12] happening Like I talked to you

[21:16] guys all the time and during

[21:16] that flood there was cloud

[21:17] seeding happening before,

[21:17] during and after the storm.

[21:21] So if that happens again or in

[21:21] some pretty big and that's

[21:25] just going to cause more money

[21:26] from the people because you

[21:27] guys in the city didn't do what

[21:30] has been necessary over decades

[21:31] of time to make sure that this

[21:34] infrastructure was up kept so

[21:35] it's just ridiculous.

[21:36] And then with this

[21:36] cybersecurity stuff there's

[21:40] nothing insecure.

[21:40] Phones aren't secure, Your

[21:41] computers are not secure No

[21:42] matter what you do, everything

[21:44] is able to be hacked.

[21:45] But outside of that data is

[21:50] being sold in subscription

[21:50] basis.

[21:51] We know that with like a open

[21:54] lock and all that but then it's

[21:55] like you don't put that into

[21:55] everything else where

[21:59] everything isn't secure But

[22:00] when data gets sold and shared

[22:01] and transferred from here to

[22:04] there and this and that.

[22:05] So it's like and what's

[22:05] worrisome is that you know, you

[22:06] guys want to bring in things

[22:09] like A.I. That's going to make

[22:10] things even less secure and

[22:14] less you know, have an ability

[22:15] because it elucidates and

[22:19] that's another thing is that it

[22:19] takes all our freshwater all

[22:20] these data centers.

[22:23] So it's like you just I just

[22:24] don't feel like it's sad that

[22:24] you don't think about things in

[22:28] a logical way that you would

[22:28] make sure that you're

[22:32] protecting people from

[22:33] the dangers of things you

[22:33] actually literally like per

[22:37] basis head on to it.

[22:38] And with the Brown Act I mean

[22:38] you don't even uphold

[22:42] the Constitution and you're

[22:43] constantly violating the Brown

[22:43] Act and Robert's Rules of

[22:44] Order.

[22:47] So it's like it doesn't matter

[22:48] how many rules get put in place

[22:51] or policy it's like you're

[22:52] always you're breaking the law

[22:55] with what you guys do and

[22:56] the Constitution should be

[22:57] the very first thing that you

[23:01] uphold.

[23:02] I mean you take an oath to it.

[23:02] The other things you don't take

[23:05] an oath to like all these other

[23:06] things which you can't even,

[23:06] you know, take an oath and make

[23:10] sure that you stand in that and

[23:11] go we're not going to violate

[23:12] this type of things like coming

[23:15] after people's guns that right

[23:15] shall not be infringed our

[23:16] First Amendment right freedom

[23:19] of the press like you just

[23:20] being able to live our lives

[23:25] There's it's just it's sad So

[23:25] it's like you know but here

[23:26] we're going to be spending

[23:27] money and hopefully this will

[23:29] make you guys course correct

[23:30] and start doing things

[23:31] differently so that we don't

[23:31] have to have this type of

[23:32] litigation come down the pike

[23:44] all the time that I've I've

[23:44] never been to China.

[23:45] I'll talk to them Basically I'm

[23:47] going to give my perspective

[24:19] and

[24:25] it's not So we'd like to

[24:25] speak briefly.

[24:29] John Stump speaking the audio

[24:29] is completely goofed up.

[24:33] You got a big echo and my

[24:38] comments are really for a

[24:39] closed session non agenda.

[24:43] So when you get to that I hope

[24:43] we can have the audio

[24:47] straightened out Call me back

[24:54] for non agenda comment.

[24:54] >> Okay.

[24:54] Thank you.

[24:55] Did you mean non agenda number

[25:10] one comment I under

[25:10] understanding you do you hear

[25:15] the echo you've got yes they're

[25:16] working on the technical

[25:19] difficulties okay you're going

[25:23] to call me back for non agenda

[25:29] the thing but you know your

[25:29] presentation is not working

[25:33] correctly thank you We will get

[25:39] in touch with you on and

[25:40] the last one because

[25:44] the meeting and then that 87

[25:44] 100 please when you close

[25:45] session I know you like to be

[25:52] careful Wow Thank you so much.

[25:52] I don't know the name of

[25:56] the person that is at

[26:01] the control there for working

[26:02] of the technology.

[26:02] But thank you.

[26:03] Thank you everybody who's

[26:06] helping.

[26:07] >> Love you all.

[26:07] Okay.

[26:08] All three items please.

[26:14] You'll have a choice.

[26:15] And yet the district three I

[26:19] can't really hear you Barely.

[26:20] But I hope I'm in there.

[26:24] Well, let me shut off my chair

[26:24] .

[26:24] That's better.

[26:25] Okay, so all three items

[26:28] floating a litigation and here

[26:29] is my direction.

[26:33] Most of us know why there are

[26:34] 57 people raising their hands

[26:37] out to us.

[26:38] The perfect storm What is our

[26:43] ally for?

[26:44] It makes us look at our city

[26:45] and what makes it work or not

[26:47] work.

[26:48] And this ally showed us what

[26:52] doesn't work This is not

[26:52] the city we want to be.

[26:57] This is not the city we need to

[26:57] be.

[26:58] We need to put one very simple

[27:02] thing into the plaintiff's

[27:02] hands.

[27:02] Show them that we care.

[27:07] Then we can follow the letter

[27:08] of the law and the spirit of

[27:08] the law.

[27:11] Love to all.

[27:12] Number two Cyber security Here

[27:16] is my direction.

[27:17] We are not alone in this

[27:17] matter.

[27:21] It is happening exponentially

[27:22] faster than we perhaps can keep

[27:27] up with it while back I spoke

[27:31] of the nation's $1.5 trillion

[27:35] debt of under an I t update

[27:36] modernization and so forth Here

[27:40] public This item is

[27:44] confidential yet it is up to us

[27:44] to be stewards of knowledge on

[27:49] this matter and also to support

[27:50] our city in its efforts to

[27:54] bring it under control as best

[27:55] they can.

[27:59] Love to all and less see as

[28:00] three Brown Act litigation.

[28:04] I wasn't sure what I wanted or

[28:05] needed to say on this matter so

[28:09] it's not direction per say it's

[28:13] just this litigation is for

[28:14] moments like this life has a

[28:18] way of creating them So we can

[28:19] work together more and foster

[28:19] growth.

[28:23] Love to all Well praise GOD.

[28:23] Hallelujah.

[28:24] Thank you.

[28:27] Have a beautiful day On behalf

[28:38] of Council PRESIDENT Like I'm

[28:38] crazy for sure.

[28:39] All right.

[28:39] Thank you, Deputy Clerk, for

[28:41] navigating that challenge.

[28:42] We will now recess in

[28:42] the closed session and

[28:45] reconvene council today at 2

[33:45] P.M. Or shortly thereafter

[36:02] and

[36:03] All right, good afternoon.

[36:03] >> I will convene the city

[36:04] council meeting on Monday,

[36:06] MARCH 16th, 2026.

[36:07] Clerk Please call the roll.

[36:07] Thank you.

[36:12] Council PRESIDENT Council

[36:12] Member Campbell here Council

[36:13] Member Whitburn here.

[36:17] Council Member Foster

[36:17] Councilmember Ron Wilber

[36:18] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

[36:21] here Councilmember Campos

[36:22] Council Member Moreno Present

[36:26] Council Member Ellen Rivera and

[36:27] Council PRESIDENT LaCava

[36:27] present.

[36:28] Also attending the meeting are

[36:31] Assistant City Attorney Leslie

[36:31] Fitzgerald, independent budget

[36:32] analyst Charles Monica and

[36:35] myself, our City Clerk Diana

[36:36] Fuentes.

[36:36] >> Thank you Council PRESIDENT

[36:37] All right.

[36:37] Thank you, City Clerk a quorum

[36:40] is now present.

[36:41] I see a lot of faces that I

[36:42] haven't seen in chambers

[36:42] before.

[36:45] Thank you for showing up.

[36:46] I'm sure we'll have a number of

[36:47] people calling in as well

[36:50] rather than read the whole

[36:50] disruption warning language

[36:51] The most effective way for you

[36:55] to communicate when you hear

[36:55] things you like or don't like

[36:56] is by using your thumbs.

[36:59] If you hear a speaker say

[37:00] something you like thumbs up it

[37:04] communicates to hear very

[37:04] effectively.

[37:05] If you hear something you don't

[37:09] like thumbs down it is again a

[37:09] very easy way doesn't disrupt

[37:10] doesn't interfere with

[37:14] the speaker's ability to talk

[37:15] to the council going forward.

[37:20] So I think an upset there with

[37:20] that.

[37:21] Do we have any comments from

[37:24] the mayor's office, city

[37:24] council members, city attorney,

[37:25] independent budget analysts or

[37:28] city clerk, council member

[37:29] Thank you.

[37:29] Council PRESIDENT Over

[37:30] the weekend we had a couple of

[37:33] anti lgbt incidents in

[37:34] Hillcrest.

[37:37] The first one involved

[37:38] harassment and slurs.

[37:42] That was bad enough.

[37:42] The second one was worse.

[37:43] A person was repeatedly punched

[37:47] in the face by somebody yelling

[37:47] transgender slurs.

[37:48] I can report that the suspect

[37:51] in that second attack was

[37:52] arrested thanks to the quick

[37:52] work of our police department.

[37:56] But since we had two incidents

[37:57] in one weekend, I want to state

[37:57] this publicly There are

[38:01] multiple streetlight cameras

[38:01] and automated license plate

[38:02] readers in Hillcrest.

[38:06] I requested them in response to

[38:07] hate crimes against the lgbt

[38:11] community since they were

[38:12] installed they have been used

[38:13] successfully to arrest suspects

[38:16] in lgbt hate crimes Do not come

[38:17] to Hillcrest to commit crimes.

[38:21] Hillcrest is a wonderful

[38:22] neighborhood where people feel

[38:22] free to be whoever they are If

[38:26] you don't like that don't come

[38:26] because be aware that if you

[38:31] come to Hillcrest to commit

[38:32] hate crimes we have streetlight

[38:32] cameras, we have automated

[38:36] license plate readers and we

[38:36] have a police department that

[38:37] will use those tools to

[38:40] identify you, catch you and

[38:41] bring you to justice.

[38:41] Thank you.

[38:42] Council PRESIDENT Thank you

[38:45] Council member and City Clerk.

[38:46] >> Thank you.

[38:50] Council PRESIDENT During this

[38:51] morning's public comment period

[38:52] on the closed session agenda we

[38:52] did experience some technical

[38:55] difficulties with those

[38:55] participating Virtually

[38:56] the issues have now been

[38:56] resolved.

[38:59] We want to reassure those who

[39:00] provided virtual comments that

[39:00] the City Council was able to

[39:01] hear comments provided

[39:05] virtually before convening into

[39:05] closed session.

[39:06] We think the public for their

[39:07] continued participation and

[39:10] cooperation.

[39:11] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT

[39:11] All right.

[39:12] Thank you.

[39:12] Not see anybody else in

[39:13] the lights.

[39:15] Clerk Please go over how

[39:16] the public can offer their

[39:16] testimony.

[39:16] >> Thank you.

[39:20] Council PRESIDENT Excuse me I

[39:21] will now offer how the how

[39:25] the off how the public can

[39:26] offer their public

[39:26] participation Today I'd like to

[39:27] highlight the slide on

[39:30] the screen that reviews this

[39:30] The order can be found on

[39:31] the agenda summary found online

[39:35] or at the table in the back of

[39:35] the room.

[39:36] It is the last page on that

[39:40] packet If you are in person

[39:41] please complete two speakers up

[39:41] located at the entrance of

[39:42] chambers and bring it to

[39:45] the front of the room in

[39:45] the clear box.

[39:46] If you are seating time please

[39:47] be sure to submit both speaker

[39:50] slips or the additional speaker

[39:50] slips all together at one time.

[39:51] Council Ambassadors Ambassadors

[39:55] are available near the entrance

[39:56] of chambers and can assist with

[39:57] questions and speakers Lips No

[40:00] further in-person testimony

[40:01] will be taken once the council

[40:01] begins Virtual Testimony Thank

[40:05] you Council PRESIDENT All

[40:06] right.

[40:06] Thank you for that.

[40:09] And with that please introduce

[40:09] item 200.

[40:10] >> Item 200 is a city of San

[40:14] Diego crime briefing JANUARY

[40:15] through DECEMBER 2025.

[40:20] This is an informational item

[40:21] If you'd like to speak to this

[40:22] item please be sure to submit

[40:22] your speakers up to the front

[40:25] of the room in the clear box or

[40:26] if you're participating

[40:26] virtually now's the time to

[40:27] raise your hand by pressing

[40:30] Star nine or the raise your

[40:30] hand icon.

[40:31] Thank you Council PRESIDENT And

[40:35] thank you for that introducing

[40:35] that item And as we see

[40:40] the chief and staff settle in

[40:41] please introduce yourselves for

[40:41] the record and let us know how

[40:45] much time you need for your

[40:45] presentation.

[40:46] >> Good afternoon.

[40:47] Council PRESIDENT LaCava Scott

[40:50] Walsh Chief of Police And we

[40:54] will need about 15 minutes for

[40:55] procedure when you're ready.

[40:55] Okay.

[40:55] Good afternoon.

[40:59] Good afternoon.

[41:00] PRESIDENT Of the Covenant

[41:01] Honorable members of City

[41:01] Council.

[41:02] I'm pleased to announce today

[41:05] that San Diego remains one of

[41:05] the safest big cities in

[41:06] the country.

[41:09] Last year crime dropped for

[41:10] the fourth year in a row.

[41:10] Some of our numbers haven't

[41:14] been this low since the 1960s

[41:14] and 70s when Santiago's

[41:19] population was far smaller than

[41:19] it is today.

[41:20] I want to highlight a few key

[41:21] statistics.

[41:24] Homicides fell by 25%.

[41:28] Our homicide unit solved 26 of

[41:29] the ten murders committed last

[41:29] year.

[41:34] And Alpers helped us solve a

[41:34] third of them.

[41:38] Vehicle thefts dropped by 22%.

[41:42] Alpers helped us arrest 199

[41:43] people for auto theft last year

[41:46] and hate crimes dropped by 32%.

[41:47] I know each of you have

[41:52] specific areas of interest and

[41:52] we will discuss those in more

[41:53] detail.

[41:53] But it's important to take a

[41:57] moment to recognize what this

[41:58] data means for our city.

[41:59] I often say the public safety

[41:59] is a shared responsibility.

[42:03] It takes partnerships of all

[42:04] kinds to prevent and solve

[42:08] crime including working with

[42:09] all of your officers.

[42:14] We are better We are stronger

[42:14] and we are safer when we work

[42:15] together from all of our police

[42:19] officers and professional staff

[42:20] doing outstanding police work.

[42:20] To our business groups, our

[42:21] community groups and

[42:24] the various city departments

[42:25] like our fire department, our

[42:26] lifeguards, our park rangers,

[42:30] environmental services folks we

[42:35] all are collaborating and have

[42:35] contributed to a decrease for

[42:36] the last four years.

[42:37] It happened because the city

[42:41] works together.

[42:42] It happened because we all care

[42:42] deeply about the safety of our

[42:46] neighborhoods.

[42:47] And it happened because we are

[42:48] working efficiently and

[42:48] effectively alongside our

[42:49] communities.

[42:53] And with that I'd like to turn

[42:53] it over to Jordan Fankhauser

[42:54] from our Crime Analysis Unit to

[42:57] share the 2025 Crime stats

[42:57] report.

[42:57] Thank you.

[43:04] Good afternoon.

[43:05] Council PRESIDENT LaCava and

[43:05] members of City Council as

[43:06] chief mentioned and Jordan

[43:07] Fankhauser from the Sanford

[43:07] Police Department.

[43:08] I will be presenting the 2025

[43:09] crime stats for the city of San

[43:09] Diego.

[43:13] The statistics will be continue

[43:14] to be based on the national

[43:14] incident based reporting system

[43:18] or neighbors format as that is

[43:19] our official reporting standard

[43:19] to the fbi.

[43:20] The neighbors format allows

[43:20] crime statistics to be more

[43:24] comprehensive with additional

[43:24] crime categories and increased

[43:25] accuracy as they are no longer

[43:29] based on static monthly totals

[43:29] but are updated as cases are

[43:30] reported investigated over

[43:30] time.

[43:31] All right.

[43:35] Compared to 2024, overall crime

[43:36] is decreased 6.3% and crime

[43:41] clearances to just slightly up

[43:42] 2.7%.

[43:42] As a reminder, an fbi crime

[43:47] clearance constitutes an

[43:47] offense that has been closed by

[43:48] an arrest or some other

[43:49] exceptional means.

[43:52] For example, the offender was

[43:53] already serving a prison

[43:53] sentence for another crime.

[43:54] Looking at the five year trends

[43:58] for each category we can see

[43:59] the crimes against society

[43:59] experienced an increase in

[44:00] which we will go into more

[44:03] detail later.

[44:04] Most notably crimes against

[44:04] property has continued to track

[44:09] well below our recent trends.

[44:09] Crimes and crimes by category.

[44:10] This slide shows the year over

[44:14] year comparison for all three

[44:15] numbers Categories by volume as

[44:16] is typical of crimes against

[44:20] property accounts for the bulk

[44:20] of offenses and overall totals.

[44:21] Since these categories are

[44:22] still fairly new in California

[44:25] with respect to discussing

[44:26] crime statistics I'll briefly

[44:27] define them for familiarization

[44:27] going forward.

[44:32] Per the fbi crimes against

[44:32] persons for example murder,

[44:33] intimidation and assault are

[44:37] those whose victims are always

[44:37] individuals.

[44:38] The burglary the object of

[44:38] crimes against property for

[44:43] example robbery, bribery or

[44:43] burglary is to obtain money or

[44:44] some other some other benefit.

[44:48] And lastly crimes against

[44:48] society for example alcohol

[44:49] offenses, prostitution, drug

[44:54] violations, etc. Represent

[44:55] society's prohibition against

[44:55] engaging in certain types of

[44:56] activity And these are

[44:59] typically reflective of police

[44:59] enforcement actions of a

[45:06] specific offense.

[45:06] Numbers Crimes Clearances.

[45:07] This slide highlights

[45:07] the clearance rates of all

[45:09] three categories for both 2024

[45:10] 2025.

[45:10] As you can see all three

[45:11] categories remained relatively

[45:15] similar year over year.

[45:20] It's important to highlight

[45:21] the crimes against society

[45:22] tends to remain at an almost

[45:22] 100% clearance rate as

[45:23] the majority of the offenses in

[45:27] that category comprise of

[45:28] events in which an officer

[45:28] arrests an individual during

[45:29] the commission of the act.

[45:32] The most recent fbi data

[45:33] available which was in 2024

[45:36] shows a national average of

[45:37] 41.9% clearance rate for crimes

[45:41] against persons a 16.6 rate for

[45:45] crimes against property and a

[45:46] 35.7% rate for all categories

[45:51] Combined crimes against persons

[45:52] Overall our first category of

[45:53] crimes against persons was down

[45:53] 3% compared to 2020 For

[45:58] homicides which were down 19%.

[45:59] Comprised of 2027 confirmed

[46:03] murder investigations and 12

[46:03] traffic related offenses such

[46:04] as dui related manslaughter or

[46:08] hit and run.

[46:09] San Diego has not seen murder

[46:09] cases this low since 1968.

[46:14] Both aggravated assaults and

[46:14] non-fatal shootings have

[46:15] continued to see decreases.

[46:19] Notably a 96 non-fatal

[46:19] shootings for 2025.

[46:24] That is a 63% decrease since a

[46:24] recent spike in 2021.

[46:25] The kidnaping abduction

[46:28] category saw a decrease of 19%

[46:28] and was comprised mostly of

[46:29] offenses related to false

[46:30] imprisonment associated with

[46:34] domestic violence or other

[46:34] assault related events within

[46:35] the sexual assault category

[46:39] which saw an overall decrease

[46:40] of 7%.

[46:40] Rape accounts for approximately

[46:41] half of the offenses other than

[46:45] rape.

[46:46] The sexual assault category

[46:47] includes offenses such as

[46:47] forcible fondling or sexual

[46:48] battery.

[46:52] The 2025 clearance rate for

[46:53] crimes against persons at 49%

[46:55] was very similar to 2024 and

[46:55] was nearly 10% above

[47:02] the national average.

[47:03] Nonfatal shootings by council

[47:03] district.

[47:04] This chart highlights non-fatal

[47:06] shootings by council district

[47:07] for both 2024 and 2025.

[47:07] In 2025 nonfatal shootings

[47:12] decreased by 25 cases compared

[47:13] to 2024 with notable decreases

[47:18] across most of our districts.

[47:19] Crimes against property Our

[47:19] second category here shows a

[47:25] decrease of 12% overall.

[47:25] As a reminder robbery even

[47:26] though potentially violent in

[47:31] nature is classified as a crime

[47:31] against property as the fbi

[47:32] considers the intent of

[47:33] the crime to obtain property

[47:33] despite the presence of force

[47:37] or fear being used.

[47:37] Robbery was down again in 2025

[47:38] with 35% of offenses occurring

[47:43] while armed and only 4%

[47:43] involving carjackings.

[47:47] Typically robberies make up

[47:47] approximately 8%.

[47:48] Typically carjackings make up

[47:49] approximately 80% of all

[47:49] robberies.

[47:53] Overall.

[47:54] Total robberies have not been

[47:54] this low in San Diego since

[47:55] 1970.

[48:00] Both robberies from a structure

[48:01] and vehicle saw notable

[48:05] decreases in 2025 as well at

[48:05] 23% and 25% respectively.

[48:06] Following a trend with

[48:06] the robbery category.

[48:10] Robberies have not seen similar

[48:11] numbers in the city since 1959.

[48:12] Most notably continuing a

[48:17] significant downward trend for

[48:17] 2024.

[48:18] Motor vehicle theft experienced

[48:22] a 22% decrease citywide

[48:22] clearance rates for this

[48:23] category remained similar to

[48:24] the year prior at 13%, which

[48:24] was slightly below the most

[48:28] recent national average.

[48:29] Vehicle thefts by Council

[48:29] district.

[48:30] The chart represented on

[48:34] the slide depicts vehicle

[48:34] thefts by council district both

[48:35] years 2024 and 2025.

[48:40] As you can see all districts

[48:40] experienced decreases in

[48:41] vehicle thefts.

[48:42] It's notable that our southern

[48:42] border region and downtown are

[48:46] often the areas with

[48:47] the highest concentration of

[48:48] stolen vehicles citywide.

[48:48] However, there were significant

[48:51] decreases in both District

[48:52] three and 8 in 2025 accounting

[48:55] for a large portion of

[48:56] the overall 22% decrease.

[48:57] Vehicle thefts across the city

[49:00] have not been this low since

[49:00] 1972.

[49:01] Crimes against society are a

[49:06] diverse category depicted here

[49:07] as crimes against society.

[49:07] To reiterate from a previous

[49:08] slide.

[49:08] Crimes against society are

[49:11] generally offenses in which an

[49:12] individual is arrested during

[49:13] the condition of the act and

[49:14] are often a representation of

[49:18] enforcement actions taken by

[49:18] the department.

[49:19] Increases in offenses of this

[49:20] category do not immediately

[49:23] indicate an increase in

[49:24] criminal activity but instead

[49:24] increases in proactive

[49:25] enforcement by police agencies.

[49:29] Overall this category has seen

[49:30] a 6% increase over 2020 for

[49:31] the most significant increases

[49:36] to note in this category.

[49:36] Represented by both drug and

[49:37] narcotics and loitering

[49:37] offenses.

[49:40] Increased enforcement related

[49:41] to the late 2024 passing of

[49:42] Proposition 36 which

[49:42] strengthens penalties for

[49:47] repeat theft and drug offenses

[49:47] resulted in increases in both

[49:48] the drug narcotics category as

[49:49] well as significantly in

[49:52] loitering.

[49:53] The Department of Justice

[49:54] classifies the offense of

[49:54] loitering in a public place for

[49:58] illegal drug activities under

[49:58] this category.

[49:59] So while illegal lodging or

[50:03] curfew offenses MAY be present

[50:04] ,approximately 60% of

[50:04] loitering offenses are related

[50:05] to narcotics.

[50:05] Other categories of note

[50:09] include trespassing offenses

[50:10] increasing by 10% and alcohol

[50:11] violations experiencing 9%

[50:15] uptick primarily due to

[50:15] increases in dui arrests.

[50:16] As highlighted earlier, rates

[50:22] remain at close to the 100%

[50:22] mark for this category as

[50:23] majority of the offenses

[50:23] encompassed are enforcement

[50:25] related and the offenders are

[50:31] generally arrested at the scene

[50:31] .

[50:32] Crime categories by Council

[50:32] District.

[50:33] This slide highlights

[50:34] the overall nine crime numbers

[50:37] crime distribution by council

[50:38] district broken down into each

[50:39] crimes against category.

[50:39] As you can see crimes against

[50:43] property depicted in blue

[50:44] account for the majority of

[50:45] offenses in to each district.

[50:45] All of the districts are

[50:49] decreasing overall crime

[50:50] depicted by the percent change

[50:51] at the top of each column as

[50:54] compared to 2020 For historical

[50:59] crime rate comparison since

[51:00] 2025 was only the fourth year

[51:01] in a row of decreased overall

[51:05] crime since 2021 but one of

[51:05] Hallmark numbers and key

[51:06] categories we find it important

[51:07] to display a slightly more

[51:10] macro view of crime in the city

[51:11] Since we began collecting

[51:11] uniform crime reporting

[51:12] statistics back in 1954.

[51:16] Historical comparison purposes

[51:17] We're using the older

[51:17] definitions of violent property

[51:18] crime.

[51:21] In this case we're looking at

[51:21] rates per 1000 individuals at

[51:22] five year intervals.

[51:26] As you can see following

[51:27] the severe uptick in

[51:27] the property crime rate in

[51:28] the 1970s primarily driven by

[51:32] increases in larceny and a

[51:33] smaller increases in violent

[51:34] crime that year that both crime

[51:34] rates peaked around 1990.

[51:39] Following the early 90s for

[51:40] property crime, the violent

[51:41] crime gradually returned a rate

[51:43] similar to what we were

[51:44] experiencing in the 1950s and

[51:44] 1970s respectively.

[51:45] It's important to note that

[51:46] the population of San Diego has

[51:50] tripled since those decades

[51:50] ago.

[51:51] Yet we remain at decreased

[51:55] overall crime rates highlighted

[51:56] highlighted in this letter gang

[51:57] specific stats for both 2024

[51:57] and 2025 depicting crime

[52:02] activity by Category and total

[52:03] documented gang members while

[52:03] overall crimes committed by

[52:07] known gang members have seen a

[52:07] 13% decrease.

[52:08] Specifically violent gang

[52:08] activity has increased arrests

[52:11] of documented gang members has

[52:17] also increased by 20%.

[52:18] Hate crimes There were 41

[52:18] confirmed hate crimes last year

[52:22] in the city of San Diego a 32%

[52:23] decrease from 2024.

[52:23] Hate crimes with an

[52:28] anti-transgender anti-racist

[52:29] and or sexual orientation have

[52:30] all all decreased.

[52:33] Most notably a 46% reduction in

[52:34] sexual orientation based hate

[52:34] crimes.

[52:39] Anti-Racist crimes are

[52:40] comprised of one incident per

[52:40] race group with the exception

[52:41] of anti-White.

[52:43] The remaining four incidents

[52:44] were mixed racial biases

[52:44] Anti-religious crimes

[52:45] experienced a significant

[52:50] increase throughout the early

[52:50] months of the year with a

[52:51] severe series of vandalism

[52:52] focused on religious

[52:55] institutions in the central

[52:56] Division of San Diego.

[52:56] These acts appear to be

[52:57] randomly targeting religious

[52:58] institutions in general and not

[53:01] any one particular denomination

[53:02] following the series earlier in

[53:03] the year anti-religious hate

[53:08] crimes continue to trend

[53:08] similar to what has been

[53:09] observed in previous years as

[53:13] youngest leads doing this

[53:13] presentation.

[53:14] Overall crime in 2025 decreased

[53:14] compared to 2024 with

[53:18] significant declines across

[53:19] major categories.

[53:20] These decreases are in line

[53:20] with the national trend amongst

[53:24] major many major cities in

[53:25] the United States during this

[53:25] past year.

[53:26] The city of San Diego not only

[53:26] continues to experience

[53:31] decreased crime overall but

[53:31] consistently demonstrates some

[53:32] of the lowest violent crime

[53:33] rates among major U.S. Cities.

[53:36] This concludes our presentation

[53:37] this time of year for any

[53:37] questions.

[53:37] Thank you.

[53:38] All right.

[53:38] Thank you very much for

[53:39] the presentation.

[53:43] Clerk Please proceed with

[53:43] public comment.

[53:44] >> Thank you.

[53:44] Council PRESIDENT.

[53:45] We have some speakers here in

[53:48] council chambers as well as

[53:49] participating online and we

[53:50] will be going to a minute and a

[53:56] half each starting with pastors

[53:57] and a if you can please come up

[53:57] to the microphone.

[53:58] Now the following individuals

[53:59] can please come up to the other

[54:02] reserved seats.

[54:02] Robert Antivirals.

[54:03] Dennis Friedlander.

[54:07] Denise Friedman Blair Beckerman

[54:08] ,Scott Chipman and Bob Casas

[54:08] Kim.

[54:12] Pastor you can have a minute

[54:13] and a half.

[54:14] Please proceed when ready.

[54:14] Thank you.

[54:15] It's a great honor and

[54:19] privilege to be here before

[54:19] the council.

[54:20] And our collaboration of crime

[54:26] stats going down We have

[54:26] the philosophy that it truly

[54:27] takes a village to raise a

[54:31] child And with our wraparound

[54:31] partners I represent

[54:32] the Commission on Gang

[54:32] Prevention and Intervention.

[54:36] And one of the things

[54:37] the feedback that I get from

[54:37] other pastors in other cities

[54:42] how do you guys keep crime down

[54:43] being that you're sandwiched

[54:47] between Tijuana which is a one

[54:48] of the cartel capitals and Los

[54:48] Angeles, the gang capital of

[54:49] the world?

[54:53] How do you guys keep it down?

[54:53] Number one is we have

[54:54] the philosophy that those that

[54:55] used to be part of the problem

[54:59] are now part of the solution.

[55:00] So we have what we called

[55:01] credible messengers or lived

[55:05] experience Former gang members

[55:05] that served time in prison and

[55:06] now they're back out in

[55:07] the community building rapport.

[55:11] They already have credibility

[55:12] in their communities, community

[55:13] leaders but being strength

[55:14] based using their what they

[55:17] used to use for negativity, not

[55:18] for positivity.

[55:18] We have guys like behind me

[55:19] Rudy who has a criminal history

[55:24] really long criminal history.

[55:25] Robert Different guys.

[55:25] It's their testimony.

[55:29] It's not saying that teaching

[55:30] them but we also have faith

[55:31] based leaders Cashbox Community

[55:35] Assistance support teams and

[55:36] faith based leaders, community

[55:36] based organizations.

[55:41] We do walk in with the No Shots

[55:42] fired and other community

[55:42] organizations like Community

[55:47] Wrap around Youth empowerment,

[55:48] open heart leaders.

[55:48] And so it takes a village and

[55:53] the chief has been a champion

[55:54] of this and every one of you as

[55:55] well have been a champion in

[55:55] this And thank you for having

[56:01] representation from your from

[56:02] your district active in

[56:03] the Commission on Gang

[56:03] Prevention origin Sorry for

[56:06] going over comments One of our

[56:07] website owners will be going

[56:07] over to get an additional

[56:08] speakers up for them Ceding

[56:12] time to you.

[56:13] Thank you Robert Motivate us to

[56:18] find a way for two seconds he

[56:19] takes a no no no Please

[56:19] proceed.

[56:24] I thank you for having us here.

[56:25] My name is Robert on with

[56:25] Community Wraparound and I'm

[56:26] here with my team and we're

[56:29] here in support of the crime

[56:29] stats to support you.

[56:30] I know when you first came on

[56:34] in the role he had had a vision

[56:35] that he shared and I could be a

[56:36] witness to that vision because

[56:36] it's coming to fruition.

[56:41] I've seen it where boots on

[56:41] the ground as little experience

[56:42] mentorship our organization

[56:47] it's getting prevention

[56:47] intervention.

[56:48] That's what we specialize in

[56:48] And so I just here to support

[56:49] you Wall and everything you're

[56:53] doing and just want to keep

[56:54] that going.

[56:54] We always say it's it's it's

[56:58] not enough but you know what

[56:59] It's a working in progress And

[57:00] so we just need to keep going

[57:01] and working together And just

[57:05] like our pastor said that it

[57:05] does take a village it takes

[57:06] all of us to come together to

[57:11] in order to get things done.

[57:11] And so with the collaboration

[57:12] with cpd, with also the vision

[57:17] he shared with the youth

[57:17] Central services that he also

[57:18] brought on, we've been working

[57:19] in collaboration with them as

[57:23] well and just an example of

[57:23] the collaboration of working

[57:24] together is not arresting and

[57:29] taking youth into custody right

[57:29] away.

[57:30] They call us to be able to find

[57:31] out and figure out a way before

[57:31] taking that you can take

[57:32] custody.

[57:35] So that's just one of

[57:36] the examples of

[57:36] the collaboration the work that

[57:37] we're doing together.

[57:38] So thank you so much.

[57:39] Thank you very much.

[57:40] >> Thanks for your time.

[57:46] Let's go.

[57:51] >> Well, yes, I'm the honorary

[57:52] mayor apb.

[57:53] And I've gotten here because of

[57:53] this man.

[57:57] He got me involved with

[57:58] the community policing and

[58:03] working in my community and now

[58:04] spreading it out through all of

[58:05] San Diego.

[58:09] And I have worked with these

[58:09] groups too.

[58:10] I'm proud of everything that

[58:16] has been accomplished.

[58:17] I support you 100% And to all

[58:18] the members of our beach

[58:22] communities not just P.B. But

[58:22] Claremont.

[58:28] Ocean Beach Mission Beach.

[58:28] La Hoya.

[58:29] We all proudly support your

[58:29] work and we look forward to

[58:34] working with you this year.

[58:35] So the crime statistics are

[58:35] even lower next year.

[58:36] Thank you.

[58:37] Thank you.

[58:45] Claire Beekman.

[58:46] >> After Blair Mcmenemy Scott

[58:46] Chipman and then Bob because

[58:50] was All right.

[58:50] Thank you.

[58:55] Thanks a lot for this item.

[58:56] It's really timely and helpful

[58:56] and important.

[58:57] We have a lot of national

[59:01] security issues at this time.

[59:02] It's nice that this item is

[59:03] here and we can have a

[59:06] community conversation on

[59:07] the intersection between

[59:08] national security crime issues,

[59:08] how we're going to work on

[59:13] these issues at this kind of

[59:13] fragile time.

[59:14] Um good item.

[59:19] Uh, nice to hear It's now been

[59:19] four years of really reducing

[59:25] crime in San Diego in cities

[59:25] across the state if not

[59:26] the country.

[59:30] These are practices that we've

[59:31] started in the previous Biden

[59:32] administration basically And

[59:33] we've been trying to explain to

[59:37] Trump that we have a good thing

[59:37] going here.

[59:38] You don't have to like

[59:42] overwhelm an already good

[59:43] situation we're building.

[59:44] So thank you for this work and

[59:44] effort.

[59:48] It is with four years now of

[59:48] continual good practices I hope

[59:49] we can really look into

[59:53] the ideas of responsible

[59:54] technology.

[59:54] I know you guys have a

[59:54] philosophy.

[59:55] We all do.

[1:00:00] If it ain't broke don't fix it

[1:00:00] or Yeah I ain't broke.

[1:00:01] Don't fix it.

[1:00:02] And so I'm sure you want to

[1:00:05] keep moving on in the same

[1:00:06] momentum but I think it's

[1:00:06] really important as good

[1:00:07] progressive practices we have

[1:00:12] to be considering the concepts

[1:00:12] of responsible surveillance

[1:00:13] technology and not a bit more

[1:00:14] of tech And we have

[1:00:18] the capability to ask those

[1:00:18] questions.

[1:00:19] >> I hope in this coming year

[1:00:20] we can be talking about those

[1:00:20] good things.

[1:00:23] Thank you.

[1:00:24] >> Thank you, Scott Chipman And

[1:00:25] I believe somebody was eating

[1:00:30] your time for this but then we

[1:00:31] went back okay, I don't need it

[1:00:31] for this.

[1:00:32] I'm here also to congratulate

[1:00:36] the chief and his staff.

[1:00:36] Excellent work.

[1:00:37] It should be noted that they're

[1:00:42] running at about 10% down from

[1:00:47] the budgeted number of officers

[1:00:47] .

[1:00:48] And I also noted and had an

[1:00:49] opportunity to speak briefly

[1:00:53] with him about the increase in

[1:00:54] drug and alcohol crime.

[1:00:55] Should be noted that if you

[1:00:59] want to bring DUIs to near zero

[1:01:00] just stop enforcing.

[1:01:00] Don't look for them.

[1:01:04] Don't do any saturation patrols

[1:01:05] ,don't do any dui checkpoints.

[1:01:06] And he assured me that

[1:01:07] the reason things are going up

[1:01:11] is because we're getting more

[1:01:12] enforcement on those issues.

[1:01:16] So this is obviously an

[1:01:17] indication that the city and

[1:01:18] the citizens who've promoted

[1:01:23] Chief Wall made a great choice.

[1:01:24] We look forward to the future

[1:01:24] and doing even better in

[1:01:25] the future.

[1:01:29] There's no community that

[1:01:29] supports the police any more

[1:01:30] than Pacific Beach And so

[1:01:35] congratulations.

[1:01:36] >> Next is Bob because you if

[1:01:37] you can please come up to

[1:01:43] the podium.

[1:01:44] >> I'd like to add on to

[1:01:45] Scott's comment that one way to

[1:01:48] reduce crime is to simply not

[1:01:49] report it.

[1:01:50] I'm not going to address

[1:01:50] the statute while because this

[1:01:51] is something that happened

[1:01:55] before his term and I don't

[1:01:56] believe he's responsible for

[1:01:56] it.

[1:01:57] But I do want to share my own

[1:02:00] experience trying to report a

[1:02:01] crime that I encountered here

[1:02:02] in San Diego a number of years

[1:02:02] ago.

[1:02:07] I was assaulted repeatedly by

[1:02:08] the son of a former police

[1:02:08] officer.

[1:02:09] David Gelb was the police

[1:02:14] officer and son was Gabriel

[1:02:14] Gelb.

[1:02:15] I went directly to the Northern

[1:02:18] Division and stood there and

[1:02:19] tried to fill out a police

[1:02:20] report asked to do so And I was

[1:02:25] told please go out, wait in

[1:02:26] your car and we'll send an

[1:02:27] officer out to take your

[1:02:27] report.

[1:02:28] Now I thought that was a little

[1:02:31] strange but after about an hour

[1:02:31] of waiting at the end of

[1:02:35] the day I kind of figured no

[1:02:36] one was coming out and they did

[1:02:36] not take that police report.

[1:02:42] I went back again and again and

[1:02:42] until I brought my lawyer with

[1:02:43] me they refused to take a

[1:02:47] report on Gabriel Jeff the son

[1:02:47] of danger.

[1:02:48] Now I know that there's got to

[1:02:49] be camaraderie in the force and

[1:02:50] I know you guys do a dangerous

[1:02:54] job but please recognize that

[1:02:54] part of the problem is that

[1:02:55] your officers are sometimes not

[1:02:58] taking reports against other

[1:02:58] officers.

[1:03:05] Thank you.

[1:03:06] That does conclude public

[1:03:07] comment here in council

[1:03:07] chambers.

[1:03:08] I'm starting those that are

[1:03:08] participating remotely.

[1:03:11] We have seven speakers in

[1:03:11] the queue starting with

[1:03:12] Catherine Douglas.

[1:03:17] If you can please unmute.

[1:03:17] Good afternoon.

[1:03:18] This crime breaking report from

[1:03:18] 2025 is beyond impressive.

[1:03:23] Chief Paul along with his

[1:03:23] entire hardworking team

[1:03:24] delivered these results through

[1:03:28] precision based policing that

[1:03:28] focused efforts on quick

[1:03:29] apprehension and solving

[1:03:30] violent crimes.

[1:03:35] The use of game changing

[1:03:35] technology such as smart street

[1:03:36] lights and automated license

[1:03:40] plate readers helped officers

[1:03:40] apprehend suspects faster,

[1:03:46] preventing subsequent offenses

[1:03:46] and by fostering a

[1:03:47] collaborative partnership with

[1:03:48] the communities they serve.

[1:03:52] One great example of this is

[1:03:56] the Shots Fired initiative and

[1:03:56] the group that spoke first

[1:03:57] today in chambers.

[1:03:57] I met them at the press

[1:03:58] conference last week.

[1:04:03] They're an amazing group of

[1:04:03] people.

[1:04:04] Well done Chief and team

[1:04:04] policing is a demanding job at

[1:04:09] our pd team has clearly done a

[1:04:10] spectacular job and deserves

[1:04:14] both our praise and support.

[1:04:15] Public safety is the number one

[1:04:15] responsibility of government.

[1:04:16] Please support our police

[1:04:20] department and the f y 27

[1:04:21] budget to continue this trend

[1:04:25] for the safety of every single

[1:04:25] one of us.

[1:04:25] Thank you.

[1:04:26] Thank you.

[1:04:26] Next is 8700 if you can please.

[1:04:31] Um you After that the original

[1:04:31] 8700 star six.

[1:04:38] Thank you.

[1:04:38] Joy said you had a cd three.

[1:04:39] Thank you, Chief Wall and

[1:04:43] the rest of the cpd for

[1:04:48] building more trust in how safe

[1:04:49] we feel in San Diego.

[1:04:49] That's a big deal.

[1:04:50] Thank you.

[1:04:55] And the crime decreased again

[1:05:00] this time by 6.3%.

[1:05:01] Another big thank you.

[1:05:01] Now I'm going to tweet my

[1:05:05] comments to get I had a lot to

[1:05:06] say but it changed because of

[1:05:07] the public speakers just now in

[1:05:07] the chamber.

[1:05:12] But I'll start with this.

[1:05:17] My like from the offense table

[1:05:18] was clearance rate.

[1:05:18] Oh skip that, Skip that.

[1:05:22] Anyway, I had a question about

[1:05:23] the district attorney not

[1:05:29] issuing criminal charges.

[1:05:30] And I wonder what percentage

[1:05:30] that is And I wonder how she

[1:05:31] was helping those people that

[1:05:35] she was in charge.

[1:05:36] So what happened is the public

[1:05:36] speakers the first, second and

[1:05:41] third I believe I hope they're

[1:05:42] still there in the chamber

[1:05:42] because I love them so much.

[1:05:47] I honor their courage.

[1:05:47] It's just tremendous what

[1:05:48] they've done with their lives.

[1:05:49] Thank you for coming and

[1:05:53] sharing with us.

[1:05:54] And I just want you to know

[1:05:54] gang prevention and that

[1:05:59] violence is so critical And I

[1:06:00] was shocked to find out that it

[1:06:00] goes to family.

[1:06:00] It's a legacy.

[1:06:05] It's a generation thing that is

[1:06:06] passed on and expected.

[1:06:06] So what you did with your time

[1:06:11] was completed.

[1:06:12] >> My apologies the original if

[1:06:12] you can please unmute and then

[1:06:13] it's the gambler.

[1:06:17] I'd like to give a warm handoff

[1:06:17] to this of this propaganda

[1:06:18] update.

[1:06:18] Stephen Whitburn.

[1:06:22] I find it very egregious

[1:06:23] because there are many things

[1:06:24] that are not being reported

[1:06:25] especially in Tent City because

[1:06:28] dreams for Change is actually

[1:06:29] telling participants not to

[1:06:30] report the sexual assaults that

[1:06:35] are taking place.

[1:06:36] The police sit and watch people

[1:06:36] do that and all you guys get

[1:06:37] people pipes and needles and

[1:06:40] tests to test their drugs to

[1:06:41] make sure it's not.

[1:06:42] Then you also give them Narcan.

[1:06:42] You're penalizing and

[1:06:46] criminalizing homelessness

[1:06:47] because you guys have nowhere

[1:06:47] to put them.

[1:06:48] Fentanyl is being distributed

[1:06:52] throughout Tent City and being

[1:06:53] done again right in front of

[1:06:53] officers on the street.

[1:06:58] And you can find little pieces

[1:06:59] of foil all over the place

[1:07:00] something that's potentially

[1:07:00] dangerous even for the animals

[1:07:05] that are just walking there or

[1:07:06] potentially a child if they

[1:07:07] wanted to pick it up and then

[1:07:07] all of a sudden overdose.

[1:07:08] So and then when you have

[1:07:11] the police who MAY or MAY not

[1:07:12] take in a report, they actually

[1:07:13] have the discretion to do

[1:07:17] whatever they want.

[1:07:18] So we have children that are

[1:07:19] being kidnaped on a regular

[1:07:19] basis.

[1:07:22] There is a massive pedophilia

[1:07:23] problem within the gay

[1:07:24] community within just children

[1:07:29] in general being targeted in

[1:07:29] San Diego.

[1:07:30] It is very disturbing to see

[1:07:31] these kinds of things take

[1:07:36] place where you guys want to

[1:07:36] paint a pretty picture that San

[1:07:37] Diego is a safe place.

[1:07:41] That is not true especially

[1:07:42] when you guys are

[1:07:42] the gatekeepers of being able

[1:07:48] to do any kind of pushing of

[1:07:48] criminal activity or stopping

[1:07:49] it.

[1:07:49] >> Thank you.

[1:07:50] Your time is concluded

[1:07:50] The gambler if you can please.

[1:07:51] I'm you.

[1:07:51] And then after that is there

[1:07:57] any Casco you guys doing today?

[1:08:03] i mixed feelings on that but

[1:08:03] primarily how much of

[1:08:09] the reduction I did I like

[1:08:10] the fact that there's more

[1:08:11] police out of there and I

[1:08:11] notice that they're a little

[1:08:12] bit more active than they used

[1:08:14] to be.

[1:08:15] But what did that come to

[1:08:16] Because the guys refused to do

[1:08:17] things for years and years and

[1:08:20] years even on the streets that

[1:08:20] people really got killed.

[1:08:25] So many people died in the last

[1:08:26] four years because they chose

[1:08:27] to look away And matter of fact

[1:08:31] you have no backing by you by

[1:08:32] the people sitting in this

[1:08:37] court like anything from

[1:08:38] throwing you under the bus They

[1:08:38] would be That's a bad friggin

[1:08:44] reality that we're faced with

[1:08:44] today.

[1:08:49] It is that people have full

[1:08:50] control over our elections very

[1:08:50] easily.

[1:08:51] >> Anyone could go in and

[1:08:54] register anyone and vote for

[1:08:55] them.

[1:08:55] There is no real checks and

[1:08:56] balances and the Clinton

[1:09:00] initiative is not going to pass

[1:09:01] So we're going to be stuck in

[1:09:02] that situation.

[1:09:02] So what if it's just a

[1:09:07] temporary retreat And then if

[1:09:08] you actually do something, are

[1:09:08] you going to be prosecuted

[1:09:13] immediately after Because

[1:09:13] that's politically just I mean

[1:09:14] right now would you go against

[1:09:18] all of our money problem very

[1:09:19] easily by adopting Julian

[1:09:20] Brown's technology deal?

[1:09:23] Oh no, because you make more

[1:09:24] money personally if you go

[1:09:25] ahead and go along with

[1:09:25] the game because they're going

[1:09:30] to go ahead and suppress and

[1:09:31] control inventors.

[1:09:31] >> Right.

[1:09:32] Your time has concluded.

[1:09:38] Ernie Pascoe, if you can please

[1:09:39] a mute after that assuming

[1:09:39] the five minute timer has also

[1:09:40] concluded there were three

[1:09:41] speakers in the queue no

[1:09:42] additional speakers will be

[1:09:42] taken.

[1:09:42] Please proceed.

[1:09:47] Her name Casco Laurie resident

[1:09:48] Torrey Pines Bladder Port are

[1:09:49] reporting serious allegations

[1:09:53] to the real estate taxes

[1:09:54] department and directly to you

[1:09:55] Joe LaCava office at Torrey

[1:09:59] Pines Cloud Report Where are

[1:10:00] the police reports?

[1:10:00] I refused to surrender my

[1:10:01] freedom under threat of

[1:10:04] violence.

[1:10:05] This is a negligent homicide

[1:10:06] and attempted murder case

[1:10:06] workplace violence or wrongful

[1:10:11] termination Assault over

[1:10:11] the death of a pilot.

[1:10:12] It was attempted murder in

[1:10:16] retaliation by switching my

[1:10:17] wing that collapsed in

[1:10:18] mid-flight crashing on a

[1:10:18] rooftop.

[1:10:19] My home was invaded twice Then

[1:10:22] I was poisoned with a deadly

[1:10:23] biohazard.

[1:10:23] This is an ongoing hate crime

[1:10:28] that needs to stop No citizen

[1:10:29] should have their life under

[1:10:29] threat or die over

[1:10:30] the commercialization of a

[1:10:30] public park.

[1:10:35] It's time to stop the crime

[1:10:35] With the permanent

[1:10:36] reinstatement of Torrey Pines

[1:10:37] Blade Port Advisory Board and

[1:10:41] the immediate implementation of

[1:10:41] the proposed San Diego

[1:10:42] recreational waiver as a proven

[1:10:47] solution to end the dispute and

[1:10:47] addresses the victims and

[1:10:48] witnesses.

[1:10:48] The heavy damage by Torrey

[1:10:52] Pines Glider Port negligent

[1:10:52] operation It's a win for city

[1:10:53] council liabilities and

[1:10:58] restores recreational rights

[1:10:59] and freedoms for years to come

[1:11:00] to what it originally was.

[1:11:00] >> Thank you.

[1:11:06] Thank you.

[1:11:06] >> Next Zoom user if you

[1:11:07] complete a new or final speaker

[1:11:08] will be Joshua Williamson same

[1:11:10] user.

[1:11:11] Thanks for taking my call.

[1:11:12] The Sector a shout out to

[1:11:16] the good Lord Jesus for not

[1:11:17] turning his back on us and

[1:11:22] having those guys step forward

[1:11:23] and take care of business in

[1:11:23] our neighborhood.

[1:11:28] They're doing great.

[1:11:29] Well the last four years under

[1:11:29] Biden and under our own

[1:11:34] government it was legal to

[1:11:35] steal 950 bucks a day from

[1:11:35] anybody.

[1:11:40] Just walk in and take it.

[1:11:41] You know, that was just

[1:11:41] criminal bad.

[1:11:42] I think the reason everything

[1:11:45] down is because Trump took over

[1:11:46] and it's getting hard core now

[1:11:47] to break a crime You need some

[1:11:52] other stat statistics of ice

[1:11:52] deportations and say how many

[1:11:58] criminals were deported That

[1:11:58] wasn't on stats.

[1:11:59] That takes a lot of the bad

[1:12:03] guys out of here Now they know

[1:12:04] that it's going to be more guys

[1:12:05] they're looking for and stuff

[1:12:05] with ice to get them out of

[1:12:11] here and it's going to get real

[1:12:12] When you go to the drug dealers

[1:12:15] they kill people just like in

[1:12:15] Tijuana They had 50 car bombs

[1:12:16] just a while ago so it could

[1:12:17] become up to San Diego.

[1:12:20] But who knows?

[1:12:21] It's going to get it's going to

[1:12:22] get worse before it gets

[1:12:22] better.

[1:12:23] But the guys are making a

[1:12:27] difference with the good Lord

[1:12:28] on their side there It's got to

[1:12:32] be plus good luck in the next

[1:12:33] year.

[1:12:34] So when ice shows up again our

[1:12:34] court it really gets it's going

[1:12:38] to be pretty exciting to get

[1:12:39] everybody deported.

[1:12:39] It'll be great.

[1:12:42] Thank you.

[1:12:43] Our final speaker is Joshua

[1:12:43] Williamson.

[1:12:43] Please.

[1:12:49] I knew Josh I kind of knew for

[1:12:50] you a pop up should have come

[1:12:59] up.

[1:13:07] I will have to.

[1:13:07] She seems to have dropped.

[1:13:08] I would like to know for

[1:13:09] the record that the time I did

[1:13:11] receive three comments in favor

[1:13:12] and zero comment in opposition

[1:13:13] of your comment form which has

[1:13:17] been distributed to the Council

[1:13:17] .

[1:13:18] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

[1:13:18] right.

[1:13:18] Thank you.

[1:13:19] City Clerk As a reminder this

[1:13:23] is an informational item and no

[1:13:24] motions required.

[1:13:24] We'll turn it over to council

[1:13:25] member for questions and

[1:13:26] comments and we'll start with

[1:13:30] Council member by the Chair of

[1:13:31] our Public Safety Committee.

[1:13:32] Thank you Council PRESIDENT In

[1:13:35] the Thank you Chief and thank

[1:13:36] you to the entire department

[1:13:36] and for the presentation today

[1:13:41] Thank you to the community for

[1:13:42] coming out.

[1:13:43] It is good news that we are

[1:13:48] down once again in crime across

[1:13:48] our city making us feel

[1:13:49] the safest, largest city in

[1:13:50] America which is no easy feat

[1:13:54] And these results don't happen

[1:13:54] by accident.

[1:13:55] They are the result of

[1:13:56] the dedication of our officers

[1:13:56] the strong leadership,

[1:13:59] the politicians investments we

[1:14:00] made in the city and in

[1:14:00] the city council.

[1:14:01] But it's also the result of our

[1:14:05] community's public safety and

[1:14:06] community effort and our

[1:14:07] officers actually rely on

[1:14:07] building trust with

[1:14:12] the community to make us safer

[1:14:13] which is also why oversight,

[1:14:13] transparency and building

[1:14:14] community trust is just as

[1:14:18] important as making sure we

[1:14:19] have highly trained officers

[1:14:20] able to show up to nine month

[1:14:20] hold on time.

[1:14:24] I want to thank all of our

[1:14:25] partners from the Commission on

[1:14:26] Prevention.

[1:14:26] Thank you for being here,

[1:14:27] Pastor.

[1:14:30] Your words are very beautiful.

[1:14:31] I appreciate the work you're

[1:14:31] doing and I want to thank

[1:14:32] Senior You Services and other

[1:14:33] nonprofits who are helping out.

[1:14:36] I want to thank also new shots

[1:14:37] Fired who came into our public

[1:14:38] safety committee last week to

[1:14:42] tell us about the incredible

[1:14:43] gang interruption violence work

[1:14:43] they are doing including one of

[1:14:44] their members was actually shot

[1:14:48] this past year in the middle of

[1:14:49] trying to interrupt more gun

[1:14:50] prevention and gun violence

[1:14:54] prevention here I want to thank

[1:14:54] our gun ban prevention team or

[1:14:55] ghost gun task force as well as

[1:14:56] the folks getting gun violence

[1:15:00] restraining orders.

[1:15:01] We can prevent mass shootings

[1:15:01] in this country.

[1:15:05] We have seen it in our school

[1:15:06] district.

[1:15:06] If you report something our

[1:15:07] police will take it seriously

[1:15:08] and get guns out of dangerous

[1:15:12] situations.

[1:15:12] So please keep reporting

[1:15:13] things.

[1:15:13] I also want to thank our

[1:15:17] neighbors representative police

[1:15:18] such as our 9 million

[1:15:19] dispatchers who have incredibly

[1:15:19] hard jobs to hear victims

[1:15:23] calling for help and ensuring

[1:15:24] that our officers have

[1:15:24] the information they need to

[1:15:25] get there on time.

[1:15:28] If you ever want to go see how

[1:15:29] hard our 911 dispatchers work

[1:15:29] with information coming at them

[1:15:30] from four different screens or

[1:15:31] calling hearing the victim

[1:15:34] there talking to the police

[1:15:35] officers on the street as

[1:15:36] they're getting there.

[1:15:36] It is incredibly hard work that

[1:15:37] they do.

[1:15:40] I want to thank our ask Me 127

[1:15:41] workers who are the mechanics,

[1:15:42] for example, to keep our cars

[1:15:42] running and keep our equipment

[1:15:47] functioning and the civilian

[1:15:47] staff from our retired senior

[1:15:48] volunteer positions, our peace

[1:15:52] officers, the clerical staff

[1:15:53] who do the purchase orders to

[1:15:53] make sure that our equipment is

[1:15:54] actually purchased and funded

[1:15:55] for our police department.

[1:15:58] We have so many city employees

[1:15:59] who have their hands on public

[1:15:59] safety and I want to thank all

[1:16:03] of them.

[1:16:04] I also want to thank most

[1:16:05] importantly our cpd officers

[1:16:10] who every day put their lives

[1:16:10] on the line On Valentine's Day

[1:16:11] a Saturday night I actually

[1:16:16] went on a ride along and I saw

[1:16:17] one of the most tragic things

[1:16:17] I've seen in my lifetime And I

[1:16:21] served in the Peace Corps in

[1:16:22] the aids crisis in Africa.

[1:16:23] I have seen a lot of children

[1:16:28] buried but we saw an a horrible

[1:16:28] stabbing on the street downtown

[1:16:29] actually Councilor Oliver's

[1:16:32] district the victim did not

[1:16:33] survive.

[1:16:34] You know, by the time I got

[1:16:34] there the suspect had then fled

[1:16:39] inside the apartment building

[1:16:40] and hid with his unit on fire

[1:16:41] trying to burn the apartment

[1:16:41] down.

[1:16:42] So I was able to witness almost

[1:16:45] all of the apparatus the city

[1:16:46] funds from our police cars, our

[1:16:47] party response team, our

[1:16:47] ambulances.

[1:16:51] I now understand why automated

[1:16:52] cpr machines are so important.

[1:16:57] I saw the tower ladder come

[1:16:57] from the fire department.

[1:16:58] I could not believe that this

[1:17:02] is what one incident required

[1:17:03] And then I saw the resilience

[1:17:03] of the witnesses who witnessed

[1:17:04] the unfortunate stabbing and

[1:17:08] they waited in the cold late

[1:17:09] hours of the night just to for

[1:17:10] the homicide team to arrive and

[1:17:15] take their statements So there

[1:17:15] are brave civilians in the city

[1:17:16] who are willing to stand up and

[1:17:17] talk about what they saw every

[1:17:17] day.

[1:17:18] And I want to thank everybody

[1:17:20] who's brave enough to come

[1:17:20] forward.

[1:17:21] But I do have some questions as

[1:17:25] well.

[1:17:26] In addition to all the great

[1:17:27] work we are doing with our

[1:17:27] department, there's also time

[1:17:32] that we can improve And so we

[1:17:32] also need to continue training.

[1:17:33] And so I want to know Chief,

[1:17:34] can you tell us about how you

[1:17:38] actually increasing training to

[1:17:39] make sure that we don't use

[1:17:40] excessive force and incidents

[1:17:40] as we responded properly?

[1:17:43] I know you're rethinking our

[1:17:44] training program so I'd love

[1:17:45] you to tell everybody about it.

[1:17:46] So thank you for that question.

[1:17:49] Councilmember First let me

[1:17:50] start by saying police training

[1:17:53] across the country is one of

[1:17:53] the first things that gets cut

[1:17:54] during tough budget times.

[1:17:55] I'm very proud to say working

[1:17:58] with my staff we have not cut

[1:17:59] training since I started as

[1:18:04] police chief.

[1:18:05] But to be open to transparent

[1:18:06] our training is not enough.

[1:18:06] We need to increase and do more

[1:18:10] as this world becomes more and

[1:18:10] more complex As crime trends

[1:18:11] begin to change we need to be

[1:18:15] more adaptive.

[1:18:16] One of the first things I did

[1:18:17] was I changed over the entire

[1:18:17] chain of command in our

[1:18:21] training division with

[1:18:22] the intent to redesign our

[1:18:26] training program.

[1:18:27] We lacked a leader, a true

[1:18:28] leadership development unit and

[1:18:33] a true leadership development

[1:18:34] program.

[1:18:34] It's one of my top three

[1:18:35] priorities to develop inspiring

[1:18:36] leaders that people love to

[1:18:39] come to work for And I can lead

[1:18:40] this this city into the future.

[1:18:44] I'm proud to say that that we

[1:18:45] have that leadership

[1:18:46] development unit in place and

[1:18:46] the leadership programs are

[1:18:50] beginning not just for the top

[1:18:51] part of our organization but

[1:18:51] for our frontline police

[1:18:52] officers.

[1:18:52] Detectives are professional

[1:18:56] staff all the way up to the top

[1:18:57] of this organization.

[1:19:01] Additionally, we just last

[1:19:02] month started to build training

[1:19:06] teams.

[1:19:07] Our training cycles have for

[1:19:13] decades have extended for an 18

[1:19:13] month cycle back in the 90 and

[1:19:14] early 2000s when the world

[1:19:18] wasn't spinning as fast as it

[1:19:18] is today, that 18 month cycle

[1:19:19] was sufficient But in today's

[1:19:27] world we see trends or

[1:19:27] different types of situations

[1:19:28] that we're facing in

[1:19:33] the streets and we need to

[1:19:33] adapt our training.

[1:19:34] So we now have two field

[1:19:37] training teams that are working

[1:19:37] seven days a week.

[1:19:38] They're going out to lineups

[1:19:39] instead of having a longer

[1:19:39] duration of training.

[1:19:43] It's shorter, more frequent

[1:19:44] with high repetition and we're

[1:19:48] able to change the training

[1:19:49] scenarios overnight.

[1:19:52] So we went from an 18 month

[1:19:53] cycle to an overnight pivot

[1:19:58] which is taking an aircraft

[1:19:58] carrier.

[1:19:59] We're driving it more like a

[1:19:59] speedboat.

[1:20:00] So I'm very proud of our

[1:20:01] training division for what work

[1:20:04] that they've done and we've

[1:20:04] done that without expanding

[1:20:05] the budget in any way.

[1:20:09] So I'm very proud of what

[1:20:10] they've come up with.

[1:20:10] Fantastic.

[1:20:11] Thank you.

[1:20:13] And I do realize the training

[1:20:14] can be the first thing to cut

[1:20:14] in the hard budget season but

[1:20:15] that will result in harder

[1:20:18] calls later down the road.

[1:20:19] We don't want to set up our

[1:20:20] officers to fail in

[1:20:20] the community.

[1:20:21] We want to make sure that they

[1:20:24] are trained and they can adapt

[1:20:25] If something happens they

[1:20:26] should be able to address that

[1:20:26] right away rather than you said

[1:20:27] wait 18 months for a training

[1:20:30] cycle to come around when they

[1:20:31] address something that happened

[1:20:31] a year ago.

[1:20:32] So I think it's very smart

[1:20:32] the way you're doing this and

[1:20:35] let us know how we continue to

[1:20:35] fight for that in the budget

[1:20:36] because we crime unfortunately

[1:20:40] is not stopping People call no

[1:20:41] one all the time.

[1:20:42] I mean hundreds of thousands

[1:20:42] are now who one calls a year or

[1:20:43] so.

[1:20:43] I want to make sure we do fight

[1:20:45] to make sure there is enough in

[1:20:46] the budget to make sure

[1:20:47] officers are continually

[1:20:47] trained in continuous

[1:20:50] improvement.

[1:20:51] I also want to ask and say

[1:20:52] thank you as well for

[1:20:53] the incredible work you're

[1:20:56] doing cutting down the amount

[1:20:56] of overtime costs.

[1:20:57] It's been incredible to see.

[1:21:01] At the same time I want to make

[1:21:02] sure you have my extra three

[1:21:03] minutes please.

[1:21:03] I want to make sure that we're

[1:21:07] not doing that expensive

[1:21:07] response times.

[1:21:08] I know we're hitting our nine

[1:21:09] on one emergency calls but then

[1:21:12] there are non-emergency calls

[1:21:13] that people still need help

[1:21:13] with.

[1:21:14] So our response times flagging

[1:21:14] now or how are we doing there?

[1:21:17] So our response times are not

[1:21:18] where I'd like to see them

[1:21:18] quite frankly.

[1:21:23] We have different priority

[1:21:23] calls in our dispatch center

[1:21:24] for the highest emergency

[1:21:24] calls.

[1:21:28] We are underneath just slightly

[1:21:29] underneath the threshold of

[1:21:34] seven minutes response time and

[1:21:34] the reason we're hitting that

[1:21:35] is because when those calls

[1:21:36] come out everybody drops what

[1:21:36] they're doing no matter what

[1:21:37] they're doing and they go to

[1:21:39] that call.

[1:21:40] So we're hitting that response

[1:21:40] metric but every other response

[1:21:44] time is sometimes double and

[1:21:49] triple expected time frame.

[1:21:49] We went through a

[1:21:53] reorganization in my first 60

[1:21:54] days as chief We've been kind

[1:21:55] of retooling, refocusing our

[1:21:59] efforts and moving our overtime

[1:22:00] around to go to the amount of

[1:22:01] change that we've gone through

[1:22:04] this past year year and a half

[1:22:05] And to have response times

[1:22:06] remain the same is remarkable.

[1:22:10] We cut almost 7 million in

[1:22:11] overtime without causing

[1:22:15] response times to skyrocket and

[1:22:16] without having to reduce

[1:22:17] the services we provide to

[1:22:17] the city.

[1:22:20] So it's remarkable work that my

[1:22:21] staff and department members

[1:22:21] are doing.

[1:22:22] Very proud of them for that.

[1:22:26] I think it's incredible as well

[1:22:27] And we're still not fully

[1:22:27] staffed for the amount of

[1:22:28] officers that we could under

[1:22:32] the budget in the city of San

[1:22:33] Diego has grown exponentially

[1:22:35] and yet we're still making it

[1:22:36] to 911 calls.

[1:22:36] And so I do want to keep making

[1:22:37] sure we're funding recruitment

[1:22:40] academies because we're losing

[1:22:41] a lot of good officers to

[1:22:41] retirement.

[1:22:42] So I know the budget very hard

[1:22:46] but I and I know we just want

[1:22:46] to make sure we continue

[1:22:47] recruiting and getting a

[1:22:51] diverse group of officers and

[1:22:52] that who can fill the backfill

[1:22:55] as we get retirements I met my

[1:22:56] last question which is about

[1:22:56] the technology we've been

[1:23:00] implementing to help officers

[1:23:01] do their jobs quicker.

[1:23:02] I mean I've seen Taser ten out

[1:23:05] in action that's been very

[1:23:06] helpful for officers other than

[1:23:07] the old school Tasers which are

[1:23:08] not as useful and also

[1:23:11] the automated license plate

[1:23:11] readers.

[1:23:12] I mean we just heard about yet

[1:23:13] another hate crime happening in

[1:23:16] our city And I know

[1:23:17] the automated license plate

[1:23:18] reader technology was able to

[1:23:18] help prevent those in court.

[1:23:22] The suspects two years ago in

[1:23:23] Hillcrest So how is how I know

[1:23:27] we've been reducing vehicle

[1:23:27] thefts.

[1:23:28] We've been solving homicides

[1:23:29] with it but has it still

[1:23:29] continued to be productive for

[1:23:32] all of it for the city our

[1:23:37] staffing levels are about we

[1:23:38] have about a 10% vacancy rate

[1:23:38] based on our budget right now.

[1:23:39] But if you look at the call

[1:23:43] volume that we have in

[1:23:43] the amount of time that it

[1:23:44] takes to handle that call

[1:23:45] volume, we're about 1000

[1:23:47] officers short of what we need

[1:23:47] .

[1:23:48] If you look at similar size

[1:23:48] cities across the country,

[1:23:52] Phenix is 1000 or 3000 police

[1:23:52] officers.

[1:23:55] We're at about 815 somewhere

[1:23:59] around there right now Dallas

[1:24:00] 3300 police officers same size

[1:24:05] city.

[1:24:05] So we're definitely doing

[1:24:06] the job with fewer officers.

[1:24:10] We're finding creative ways to

[1:24:11] try to make sure that we're

[1:24:11] being as efficient and as

[1:24:12] effective as we possibly can

[1:24:15] with the limited resources we

[1:24:15] have.

[1:24:16] There's no question that

[1:24:16] technology helps us bridge that

[1:24:20] gap whether it's license plate

[1:24:21] or license plate readers that

[1:24:25] help us apprehend suspects

[1:24:25] after they commit the first

[1:24:26] crime or second crime versus

[1:24:27] allowing them to commit commit

[1:24:30] multiple crimes before we

[1:24:30] figure out who they are and

[1:24:31] catch them or whether it's

[1:24:35] using other technologies

[1:24:36] specifically when it comes to

[1:24:39] you know, like Taser ten, you

[1:24:40] know, tools like that help us

[1:24:44] save lives when we have violent

[1:24:45] combative individuals and we're

[1:24:48] able to have a greater standoff

[1:24:53] distance and that particular

[1:24:54] system helps us stay further

[1:24:58] back and have multiple attempts

[1:24:59] at trying to get that person

[1:24:59] safely into custody.

[1:25:00] There's no question that it's

[1:25:03] extremely helpful for us.

[1:25:04] Got it.

[1:25:09] And we've had robust hearings

[1:25:10] here at City Hall on privacy

[1:25:10] and transparency and civil

[1:25:11] rights which are all equally

[1:25:11] important.

[1:25:14] So if anybody has questions

[1:25:15] about how automated license

[1:25:15] plate readers are used, you can

[1:25:19] see the transparent use policy

[1:25:19] on the city's website.

[1:25:20] You can know where all these

[1:25:20] cameras are on the city's

[1:25:23] website We have weekly audits

[1:25:24] that the police in our I.T

[1:25:25] department does showing why

[1:25:28] the data has been pulled, what

[1:25:29] it's used for and we are unique

[1:25:30] among other cities.

[1:25:33] We do not share our automated

[1:25:34] license plate reader system

[1:25:35] with any other city.

[1:25:35] Others around us do and

[1:25:39] the city of Chula Vista has

[1:25:39] these Oceanside, Escondido, Los

[1:25:40] Angeles put of helpers and

[1:25:43] smart streetlights.

[1:25:43] The city of Berkeley uses APIs

[1:25:44] and smart city lights open.

[1:25:47] I mean these are used to

[1:25:48] prevent and treat crime or

[1:25:49] prevent and actually solve

[1:25:52] crime.

[1:25:52] However, there was a caller

[1:25:53] talking about whether or not

[1:25:54] the city cooperate in

[1:25:55] immigration enforcement.

[1:26:00] And let me be clear we do not

[1:26:01] it is very we actually let a

[1:26:02] vote at the city of San Diego

[1:26:02] to join the lawsuit with

[1:26:06] Minneapolis against the federal

[1:26:06] administration for what ice is

[1:26:07] currently doing in our

[1:26:08] communities because that is not

[1:26:10] law enforcement.

[1:26:11] But Chief, can you state on

[1:26:12] the record again we do not

[1:26:12] violate the California Values

[1:26:14] Act and we are not cooperating

[1:26:15] in immigration enforcement.

[1:26:15] Yes, ma'am.

[1:26:16] First of all, we don't share

[1:26:19] with anybody in the state.

[1:26:20] We don't share with our federal

[1:26:20] partners.

[1:26:21] We definitely don't use it for

[1:26:25] immigration purposes.

[1:26:25] We're in complete compliance

[1:26:28] with Senate Bill 54 as well as

[1:26:29] Senate Bill 34 In terms of

[1:26:33] sharing that that information

[1:26:37] we retain it and own that data

[1:26:38] And again we're trying to be as

[1:26:39] transparent as we possibly can

[1:26:39] and have the oversight and

[1:26:43] auditing in place so that

[1:26:43] people can be comfortable and

[1:26:44] confident that we're using it

[1:26:45] the right way to catch

[1:26:47] criminals.

[1:26:48] Thank you.

[1:26:48] It is critically important

[1:26:49] people feel safe calling our

[1:26:53] officers and calling 911.

[1:26:53] And so I just want to reiterate

[1:26:57] that again on the record.

[1:26:58] So thank you very much for

[1:26:58] the great news today.

[1:26:59] Thank you for the community

[1:27:02] effort and the work Everyone in

[1:27:03] our department is doing But I

[1:27:03] do want to close in recognizing

[1:27:06] this incredible progress in

[1:27:07] keeping us all safe.

[1:27:08] There's also something just as

[1:27:11] important.

[1:27:12] There were still horrible

[1:27:13] victims of crime last year.

[1:27:16] I mean victims of horrible

[1:27:16] crimes.

[1:27:17] And I still want to note that

[1:27:21] that even though our crime

[1:27:22] statistics are down, statistics

[1:27:22] are not just numbers.

[1:27:23] There are people who've lost

[1:27:23] family members.

[1:27:26] There are people who have had

[1:27:27] to leave their homes due to

[1:27:27] domestic violence.

[1:27:31] Their children who faced hate

[1:27:32] crimes in our schools.

[1:27:32] And so I want to acknowledge

[1:27:33] that there are still victims

[1:27:36] that we have to remember in

[1:27:36] this situation even as we're

[1:27:37] celebrating lower crime rates,

[1:27:38] I still want to remember them

[1:27:40] too.

[1:27:41] So thank you very much for

[1:27:42] the briefing.

[1:27:42] Thank you for the good news and

[1:27:45] I'll close my comments.

[1:27:45] All right.

[1:27:46] Thank you.

[1:27:47] Council member Von Wilpert.

[1:27:47] We'll go next to council member

[1:27:50] Marino.

[1:27:51] Thank you for the presentation.

[1:27:54] The city of San Diego's 2025

[1:27:54] crimes Briefing data shows

[1:27:59] meaningful declines in violent

[1:28:00] and violent crimes robberies,

[1:28:04] burglaries and vehicle theft.

[1:28:05] I do want to start off by

[1:28:08] commending the men and women of

[1:28:09] the San Diego Police Department

[1:28:09] and Chief Wall for their

[1:28:13] outstanding work in reducing

[1:28:14] crime across the city.

[1:28:18] However, as shown on the graph

[1:28:22] titled Vehicle Theft by Council

[1:28:26] District 2024 versus 2025,

[1:28:26] District eight is significant

[1:28:30] Lee Higher with 1622 vehicle

[1:28:34] thefts in 2024 and 1161 in

[1:28:35] 2025.

[1:28:35] It does appear that the high

[1:28:39] number of vehicle theft is due

[1:28:40] to the targeting operations by

[1:28:41] criminals around the cross

[1:28:44] border Express.

[1:28:45] In 2024 more than 4 million

[1:28:49] people used Cbdcs to cross over

[1:28:53] to take a flight through

[1:28:54] Rodriguez International Airport

[1:28:58] in Tijuana, Mexico.

[1:28:59] Criminals know the high volume

[1:29:03] of activity at CBCs and it

[1:29:04] shows that they're taking

[1:29:07] advantage of travelers that

[1:29:08] leave their cars unattended for

[1:29:12] days Maybe even weeks.

[1:29:13] Now CBCs is a vital part of my

[1:29:17] district and I would argue it's

[1:29:18] a vital part of the city of San

[1:29:18] Diego and the state of

[1:29:22] California.

[1:29:25] So having CBCs in District

[1:29:26] eight comes with its

[1:29:26] responsibilities.

[1:29:30] My question is what measures is

[1:29:31] the sd pd implementing to

[1:29:35] address the high rate of

[1:29:36] vehicle thefts in this area?

[1:29:37] Thank you for that question,

[1:29:37] Councilmember.

[1:29:41] First let me start by saying

[1:29:42] there has been a considerable

[1:29:45] drop from 2024 to 2025.

[1:29:46] I think we were fewer by 4 or

[1:29:46] 500.

[1:29:49] Vehicle thefts just in that in

[1:29:50] your district alone.

[1:29:54] So definitely celebrate

[1:29:55] the progress But there are

[1:29:58] still 1100 other cases from

[1:29:59] this last year that that we do

[1:30:03] need to address and continue

[1:30:03] driving that number down.

[1:30:04] >> I will say that with

[1:30:05] technology like license plate

[1:30:08] readers, we arrested 199 people

[1:30:09] last year for auto theft based

[1:30:12] on the license plate.

[1:30:13] >> Readers in other cities

[1:30:16] around the county are having

[1:30:17] similar progress.

[1:30:18] What we're doing when you look

[1:30:22] at the from a macro level we're

[1:30:23] taking the auto thieves off of

[1:30:26] the playing table and we're

[1:30:27] seeing that across and across

[1:30:27] the country.

[1:30:31] But specifically for that lot

[1:30:32] it is it is a target rich

[1:30:32] environment.

[1:30:36] There's thousands of cars there

[1:30:37] and they're there most of

[1:30:40] the time for an extended period

[1:30:41] .

[1:30:41] And so what it's going to take

[1:30:42] is is really a focused

[1:30:46] enforcement in those lots.

[1:30:47] Some of them are as you know,

[1:30:47] our joint use or federal

[1:30:50] property.

[1:30:51] And so working with our our

[1:30:55] federal partners as well to try

[1:30:56] to address this issue and

[1:30:57] trying to bring additional

[1:30:59] security measures, security

[1:31:03] patrols, whether it is federal

[1:31:04] agents or if it's security or

[1:31:08] San Diego police officers.

[1:31:09] But we are committed to working

[1:31:10] on this and of course your

[1:31:13] office to make sure that that

[1:31:14] we keep it at the forefront.

[1:31:14] Thank you.

[1:31:15] I appreciate your response.

[1:31:18] Recently CBCs did send a memo

[1:31:19] to the mayor.

[1:31:23] I know they sent one to me and

[1:31:24] requesting focused enforcement

[1:31:28] in this area and additional

[1:31:28] security.

[1:31:32] So I look forward to seeing

[1:31:33] that in the next year.

[1:31:37] And thank you for the response

[1:31:38] .

[1:31:39] I want to redirect our focus to

[1:31:42] Del Bird Shia Street in

[1:31:42] District eight.

[1:31:43] In a few minutes we're going to

[1:31:46] hear item 2a1 requesting Del

[1:31:49] Burgett to reduce its speed

[1:31:50] limits by five miles per hour.

[1:31:54] This change follows a citywide

[1:31:55] study which determined that Del

[1:31:55] Brucia has one of the greatest

[1:31:59] needs for speed reduction due

[1:32:00] to and I quote high levels of

[1:32:04] commercial activity and traffic

[1:32:04] volume.

[1:32:05] While there are several

[1:32:09] businesses in the area on Del

[1:32:13] Berjaya such as at Cofix Auto

[1:32:14] San Diego galvanized Inc just

[1:32:14] to name a few.

[1:32:18] The high levels of commercial

[1:32:19] activity and traffic volumes

[1:32:24] can be associated with ongoing

[1:32:24] issues related to prostitution

[1:32:29] activity along Del Bajo.

[1:32:30] Can the department provide an

[1:32:30] update regarding prostitution

[1:32:34] activity and what steps doing

[1:32:38] to combat the prostitution of

[1:32:39] Del Burgess and just in general

[1:32:40] enforcement efforts that

[1:32:42] the priest undertaking to

[1:32:47] address this issue?

[1:32:48] >> Well, first let me let me

[1:32:52] say that the additional large

[1:32:52] vehicles construction trucks in

[1:33:00] that area, the smaller streets

[1:33:00] having slower speeds on there I

[1:33:01] if you want my personal

[1:33:02] opinion, I think it's a is a

[1:33:04] good thing down there with

[1:33:04] those large vehicles in

[1:33:05] congested area.

[1:33:06] But to your point about

[1:33:12] prostitution.

[1:33:12] With the recent change in law,

[1:33:14] we're now able to focus on

[1:33:20] the demand side and address

[1:33:20] the Johns.

[1:33:21] I think we're going to start

[1:33:25] seeing large increases in

[1:33:26] the crimes against society

[1:33:30] decided that were that would be

[1:33:31] recorded, correct?

[1:33:31] Correct.

[1:33:32] Good.

[1:33:32] It's now giving us the tools

[1:33:35] that we need to have an impact.

[1:33:35] And we've had focused efforts

[1:33:39] down there since the day that

[1:33:40] that bill came online.

[1:33:44] And I think will will continue

[1:33:45] over time showing that we're

[1:33:45] going to be consistent and

[1:33:49] we're going to focus on on

[1:33:49] those areas.

[1:33:53] I think you'll continue to see

[1:33:54] that that issue start to

[1:33:54] dissipate.

[1:33:54] Okay.

[1:33:57] Thank you for the response.

[1:33:58] I do want to understand

[1:33:58] the limitations and

[1:34:03] complexities of prostitution

[1:34:04] And but I do want to point out

[1:34:05] if we had open air prostitution

[1:34:07] on prospect Street or Kettner

[1:34:08] Boulevard, I think the response

[1:34:12] from the city would be very

[1:34:13] different than what is being

[1:34:13] shown in Del Battista.

[1:34:14] And I just I continue to

[1:34:17] implore you, Chief and Mayor

[1:34:18] Gloria, to address this issue.

[1:34:22] I think the residents and

[1:34:22] businesses on Del Birria

[1:34:23] deserve better And I hate to

[1:34:27] end on a negative note because

[1:34:32] this is a very good uptick that

[1:34:32] we're seeing across the board

[1:34:33] from for the city of San Diego.

[1:34:36] But these are the realities

[1:34:37] that residents in my district

[1:34:42] are experience facing and it's

[1:34:42] my responsibility to advocate

[1:34:43] for my district.

[1:34:46] So all in all kudos for

[1:34:47] the improvement across the city

[1:34:47] Definitely reflects

[1:34:51] the dedication professional

[1:34:51] wisdom and commitment of our

[1:34:52] officers who work every day to

[1:34:56] keep San Diego safe.

[1:34:57] So just in general just really

[1:35:01] wonderful job that you guys are

[1:35:01] doing on those two items.

[1:35:06] I will elevate them just so we

[1:35:06] can get more attention.

[1:35:07] But thank you for your

[1:35:07] response.

[1:35:11] Councilmember if I if I MAY, I

[1:35:12] think our officers have engaged

[1:35:12] quite a few men over the past

[1:35:13] couple of years about

[1:35:16] prostitution on Dabaja.

[1:35:17] Through that advocacy the state

[1:35:17] law that she for reference

[1:35:20] allowed us to take enforcement

[1:35:21] be on special operations and

[1:35:21] really return it to patrol

[1:35:22] officers to have that sustained

[1:35:25] enforcement.

[1:35:25] The work is not done there.

[1:35:26] I think as we continue to look

[1:35:29] at this issue, continue to

[1:35:30] advocate at the state to have

[1:35:31] additional legislation that can

[1:35:31] allow us to go towards

[1:35:34] the victim services side as

[1:35:35] well and ensure folks that are

[1:35:36] being trafficked in that area

[1:35:38] have resources and that we're

[1:35:39] able to engage with them.

[1:35:40] So understood that the work is

[1:35:40] not yet done but looking

[1:35:44] forward to continued engagement

[1:35:45] with your office there.

[1:35:45] All right.

[1:35:46] Thank you, Councilmember

[1:35:46] Moreno.

[1:35:47] The next to council member

[1:35:52] Campbell Thank you Council

[1:35:52] PRESIDENT And thanks to you for

[1:35:57] the wonderful presentation and

[1:35:57] the good work that it shows and

[1:35:58] to all the police department

[1:36:01] for all the work to keep

[1:36:02] the city of San Diego one of

[1:36:06] the biggest and one of

[1:36:06] the safest and biggest cities

[1:36:07] in America.

[1:36:10] It's great news to see that

[1:36:11] the crime rates continue to

[1:36:14] decrease again and now by 6.3%.

[1:36:15] This is the fifth year in a row

[1:36:18] that crime has gone down.

[1:36:19] It's especially good to see

[1:36:20] that hate crimes in general

[1:36:24] have decreased by 32% in

[1:36:24] the city.

[1:36:27] The issue of hate crimes was

[1:36:28] one plaguing our communities

[1:36:29] for the last couple of years

[1:36:32] and I'm relieved to see that

[1:36:33] our efforts have helped

[1:36:34] decrease hate crimes especially

[1:36:37] against our lgbtq community and

[1:36:38] especially against people of

[1:36:43] color who for decades have been

[1:36:43] the main victims of such

[1:36:43] crimes.

[1:36:47] However, it is concerning to

[1:36:51] see that religious hate crimes

[1:36:56] have increased in the city by

[1:36:56] 150%.

[1:36:57] An increase in religious hate

[1:37:01] crimes harms the safety and

[1:37:02] unity of our communities.

[1:37:05] It undermines the fundamental

[1:37:06] American value of religious

[1:37:06] freedom.

[1:37:10] It is a central that we stand

[1:37:11] firmly against hatred and

[1:37:15] ensure that every person can

[1:37:16] practice their faith without

[1:37:16] fear.

[1:37:21] People ask What can I do to

[1:37:21] help?

[1:37:25] Well here's a suggestion.

[1:37:25] Anytime someone you're

[1:37:29] conversing with makes a comment

[1:37:29] that is against someone's

[1:37:30] religion tell them to stop.

[1:37:35] Tell them to stop saying things

[1:37:35] like that.

[1:37:39] i remind them that our

[1:37:40] Constitution guarantees

[1:37:44] the freedom of all religions.

[1:37:45] As a matter of fact, when we

[1:37:45] began as a country all those

[1:37:49] hundreds of years ago, many of

[1:37:49] the people who started our

[1:37:53] country came here because they

[1:37:54] needed religious freedom.

[1:37:58] Never forget that.

[1:37:59] And in other words and on other

[1:38:03] items in district to my

[1:38:04] district I want to thank you

[1:38:08] are crime is down by 6% this

[1:38:08] year And across the city

[1:38:12] the numbers are just incredible

[1:38:12] .

[1:38:13] Wonderful murders drop by 25%

[1:38:17] nonfatal shootings 21% down,

[1:38:21] vehicle theft down by 22%

[1:38:22] overall.

[1:38:26] And this is all great news And

[1:38:27] I think a lot of it is because

[1:38:27] of our smart technology that

[1:38:31] dramatically improves our

[1:38:31] officers ability to do their

[1:38:35] jobs And additionally these

[1:38:36] trends show that this mayor and

[1:38:41] this city council and this

[1:38:41] department are committed to

[1:38:46] ensuring that San Diego remains

[1:38:50] either at the top or MAY be

[1:38:51] this year even We might be

[1:38:52] number two.

[1:38:55] I'm not sure of America's

[1:38:56] safest cities overall.

[1:39:00] I'm once again committing my

[1:39:00] full support to our police

[1:39:01] officers because I want our

[1:39:05] communities to remain safe and

[1:39:06] so do more residents.

[1:39:07] I want to thank all our

[1:39:10] officers who are working long

[1:39:11] hours keeping us all safe and

[1:39:15] yet you've been able to

[1:39:15] decrease the amount of

[1:39:16] overtime.

[1:39:19] Thank you so much And MAY we

[1:39:20] please have good results in our

[1:39:24] recruitment for new officers?

[1:39:35] Thank you.

[1:39:51] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.

[1:39:51] Thank you, Council member

[1:39:53] Campbell.

[1:39:58] We'll go next to Council Member

[1:39:59] Campo Thank you.

[1:40:01] Council PRESIDENT Thank you

[1:40:01] Chief and thank you to the San

[1:40:03] Diego Police Department for

[1:40:06] your good work.

[1:40:11] I just want to start by

[1:40:12] recognizing the work of our

[1:40:16] officers and our community

[1:40:17] partners even while operating

[1:40:17] with fewer officers per capita

[1:40:18] than comparable major cities,

[1:40:18] they continue to deliver

[1:40:19] excellent results and help keep

[1:40:19] San Diego one of the safest

[1:40:20] large cities in the country.

[1:40:21] In years past I've pointed out

[1:40:22] those figures but today I'll

[1:40:23] just remind folks that for our

[1:40:23] population we should have

[1:40:25] closer to 2600 officers.

[1:40:25] I personally would like to see

[1:40:26] a plan to get us to 2000

[1:40:26] officers in the next three

[1:40:27] years.

[1:40:27] I think that's an ambitious but

[1:40:28] also realistic goal.

[1:40:28] Public safety also means

[1:40:29] prevention and that's why I've

[1:40:31] supported programs that work

[1:40:36] directly in communities that

[1:40:37] interrupt cycles of violence

[1:40:38] before they're started as well

[1:40:39] as supporting well vetted

[1:40:39] technologies.

[1:40:40] And of course while hate crimes

[1:40:42] are reportedly down, we know

[1:40:47] that many incidents still go

[1:40:49] unreported.

[1:40:50] At a time when hateful rhetoric

[1:40:50] is more normalized, it's

[1:40:51] critical that our community

[1:40:53] continues to speak out and have

[1:40:54] people report these incidents.

[1:40:54] Hopefully the San Diego Police

[1:40:55] Department or their law

[1:40:58] enforcement agencies but if not

[1:40:58] to trusted community partners

[1:40:59] so we can connect them with

[1:40:59] resources.

[1:41:00] Also I want to point out that

[1:41:01] we are a border city and we are

[1:41:02] also one of the largest safe

[1:41:03] cities in the country for many

[1:41:03] years running because we're

[1:41:04] focusing on protecting people

[1:41:05] and strengthening communities

[1:41:05] good crime prevention and good

[1:41:06] crime solving helped to

[1:41:09] reinforce that We as a city are

[1:41:14] upholding our top charter

[1:41:16] obligation.

[1:41:26] It's stated plain and clear

[1:41:26] which is keeping San Diego

[1:41:27] safe.

[1:41:27] Chief, I have a question for

[1:41:28] you and your staff about crime

[1:41:29] clearance.

[1:41:30] I'm sorry about the feedback.

[1:41:31] Crime clearance It's an odd

[1:41:32] phrase to members of the public

[1:41:33] but basically it means arrests

[1:41:33] and apprehensions when a crime

[1:41:34] is reported.

[1:41:35] I'm glad to see that those

[1:41:36] statistics have stayed

[1:41:40] basically stable or increased

[1:41:40] for property crimes because

[1:41:41] that's the first modicum of

[1:41:45] justice for many victims to

[1:41:45] know that the police department

[1:41:46] has actually apprehended

[1:41:46] someone who has allegedly

[1:41:46] created committed a crime.

[1:41:47] I'm wondering how difficult it

[1:41:47] would be for San Diego Police

[1:41:47] Department to see how many of

[1:41:48] those cleared cases actually

[1:41:48] have led to guilty convictions

[1:41:49] or dismissal for whatever

[1:41:49] reason.

[1:41:49] Is that data able to be

[1:41:50] collected from the da's office

[1:41:51] or the city attorney's office

[1:41:51] in handling those cases so that

[1:41:51] the public can understand and

[1:41:52] have a more complete picture of

[1:41:55] what accountability is truly

[1:41:55] being achieved?

[1:41:56] Can we get that data?

[1:42:06] Can we dig into that data So we

[1:42:48] actually see that a lot of

[1:43:09] these crimes where people are

[1:43:30] being apprehended actually lead

[1:43:51] to substantial justice through

[1:44:12] either a guilty plea or a

[1:44:33] dismissal when the person

[1:45:18] cannot be proven beyond a

[1:45:41] reasonable doubt guilty?

[1:46:02] I would say it's possible.

[1:46:23] Councilmember.

[1:46:46] Unfortunately we do not retain

[1:46:53] that information and don't

[1:46:53] necessarily have access to that

[1:46:54] information.

[1:46:54] We'd have to request that

[1:46:54] through the district attorney's

[1:46:54] office as well as the city

[1:46:54] attorney's office.

[1:46:54] I can imagine for both of them

[1:46:55] that would be a pretty

[1:46:55] laborious task to try to weed

[1:46:55] through which agencies each one

[1:46:55] applies to.

[1:46:55] As you know there are a number

[1:46:55] of other factors that that go

[1:46:56] into each of these cases.

[1:46:56] But at the end of the day I do

[1:46:56] think that they have some data

[1:46:56] we'd have to request from them.

[1:46:56] Okay.

[1:46:56] I'm hoping that next year this

[1:46:57] time maybe with a few

[1:46:57] conversations you can collect

[1:46:57] at least some high level high

[1:46:57] level data as to what that

[1:46:57] looks like.

[1:46:57] Because when you look at

[1:46:58] the when you look at the types

[1:46:58] of crimes crimes against

[1:46:58] persons, oftentimes there's

[1:46:58] human witnesses.

[1:46:58] It's a violent crime.

[1:46:58] There's some substantial

[1:46:59] property crime.

[1:46:59] Usually there's no one watching

[1:46:59] crimes against society.

[1:46:59] Typically the police officer is

[1:46:59] the is the witness to what is

[1:47:00] oftentimes a drug crime.

[1:47:00] Right.

[1:47:00] So I would hope you could have

[1:47:00] those conversations, see what

[1:47:00] we can get.

[1:47:00] The next year we have a more

[1:47:01] robust picture because I think

[1:47:01] the public can look at these

[1:47:01] these numbers but also say

[1:47:01] well, who's actually being held

[1:47:01] accountable?

[1:47:01] I think a lot of people think

[1:47:02] that nobody is being held

[1:47:02] accountable.

[1:47:02] But I know that's not

[1:47:02] the truth.

[1:47:02] I know the da's office and

[1:47:02] the city attorney's office

[1:47:03] successfully prosecute many,

[1:47:03] many crimes.

[1:47:03] So if you can have those

[1:47:03] conversations and by next year

[1:47:03] have some report back on that,

[1:47:03] I'll ask the question next

[1:47:04] year.

[1:47:04] So you have 365 days Heads up.

[1:47:04] Thank you for your good work.

[1:47:04] Thank you for the time.

[1:47:04] Council PRESIDENT Thank you

[1:47:04] Council member camp here.

[1:47:05] We'll go next to Council member

[1:47:05] Foster Yes thank you Council

[1:47:05] PRESIDENT And thank you chief

[1:47:05] to you and your team for

[1:47:05] the presentation.

[1:47:05] I guess I will start with

[1:47:06] congratulations and a good job

[1:47:06] Job well done.

[1:47:06] You know, typically I think

[1:47:06] there are folks out there that

[1:47:06] would say I tend to be more or

[1:47:06] to criticize San Diego police

[1:47:07] than to congrats to you.

[1:47:07] But I think on the efforts and

[1:47:07] the data is clear that we are

[1:47:07] the safest, largest city And so

[1:47:08] thank you for that.

[1:47:08] Thank you to your team also I

[1:47:08] just want to say thank you as

[1:47:08] we have are one of our credible

[1:47:08] messenger teams here today

[1:47:08] started working on bringing

[1:47:09] credible messengers to the city

[1:47:09] of San Diego as I was the chief

[1:47:09] of staff for District four and

[1:47:09] it was a task to bring that

[1:47:09] forward and we were able to

[1:47:09] start with the no shots fired

[1:47:10] team and bringing them on

[1:47:10] board.

[1:47:10] But I want to thank you

[1:47:10] personally for your efforts

[1:47:10] because we have expanded on

[1:47:11] things that we'd like to take

[1:47:11] my council colleagues on for

[1:47:11] their support in expanding on

[1:47:11] the alternative and continuing

[1:47:11] the investment in no shots

[1:47:12] fired continuing to pursue

[1:47:12] capital grants and also thank

[1:47:12] you to my colleagues for

[1:47:12] the efforts in creating

[1:47:12] the drop in centers.

[1:47:12] I think that work speaks for

[1:47:13] itself and I think it is

[1:47:13] necessary work and hopefully

[1:47:13] you and your team see

[1:47:13] the importance and

[1:47:13] the assistance that they

[1:47:13] provide in certain

[1:47:14] circumstances.

[1:47:14] So I just really want to thank

[1:47:14] you and also thank you to

[1:47:14] the mayor's office and his team

[1:47:14] for continuing those efforts.

[1:47:15] I know it's not easy but you

[1:47:15] have shown if you provide

[1:47:15] the opportunity there are

[1:47:15] avenues and good work that's

[1:47:15] being done.

[1:47:15] I myself work closely with a

[1:47:16] few of the organizations you

[1:47:16] know I always call no matter

[1:47:16] what the night is as I hear

[1:47:16] activity I live in one of

[1:47:16] the main corridors for

[1:47:16] Southeastern Division and so i

[1:47:17] hear a lot of the activities

[1:47:17] and things that go on and I am

[1:47:17] always first of all on

[1:47:17] the phone to make sure that we

[1:47:17] are interrupting violence and

[1:47:17] trying our best to keep our

[1:47:18] neighborhoods safe.

[1:47:18] So I just want to thank you for

[1:47:18] those efforts Also I do

[1:47:18] appreciate my colleague's line

[1:47:18] of question questioning on

[1:47:19] things don't for training as as

[1:47:19] you know we you know there's

[1:47:19] several sides to policing and

[1:47:19] as we as we are doing the good

[1:47:19] work and in keeping our

[1:47:19] community safe there's also

[1:47:20] some other things that we need

[1:47:20] to continue to work on.

[1:47:20] We're all human know ones above

[1:47:20] making a mistake myself

[1:47:20] included.

[1:47:20] And so I just want to thank you

[1:47:21] for the time and effort you're

[1:47:21] taking to to to work on those

[1:47:21] types of issues to look at

[1:47:21] internally what we can do

[1:47:21] better And I'm sure you'll have

[1:47:22] some more time to go into more

[1:47:22] detail about those efforts and

[1:47:23] the certain things that you are

[1:47:26] doing with training.

[1:47:27] So I truly do appreciate that

[1:47:30] as well.

[1:47:31] The one question I do have a

[1:47:35] couple of questions and I just

[1:47:36] want to ask this this of you

[1:47:36] because one thing that I will

[1:47:40] always say and I've said this

[1:47:41] before I truly do believe at

[1:47:41] certain times we do a

[1:47:45] disservice to our officers and

[1:47:46] I think we have put a lot on

[1:47:46] them.

[1:47:50] And so I just want to ask do

[1:47:51] you employ or does the city

[1:47:52] employ any social workers that

[1:47:57] you that you know of directly?

[1:47:57] >> Directly?

[1:47:58] No, we don't have any

[1:48:02] behavioral health per se.

[1:48:03] Folks on what I want to say

[1:48:06] city staff not to say we MAY

[1:48:07] not be contracting as we work

[1:48:08] with our experts in certain

[1:48:12] things but our core services

[1:48:13] that we provide we do not

[1:48:16] employ those types of

[1:48:17] individuals, correct?

[1:48:17] That's correct.

[1:48:18] Okay.

[1:48:18] I just want to make sure we're

[1:48:21] clear because we ask a lot of

[1:48:22] our officers as we deal with

[1:48:26] our homelessness and certain

[1:48:31] issues and often times I find

[1:48:32] that as we are dealing in

[1:48:36] certain circumstances or

[1:48:36] certain incidents arise

[1:48:37] oftentimes you can tie it back

[1:48:41] to certain behavioral health

[1:48:41] circumstances or certain things

[1:48:45] that things MAY not let's say

[1:48:46] finished the way we would want

[1:48:51] them to to to finish right We

[1:48:52] to be to be transparent We do

[1:48:52] partner and they do ride with

[1:48:56] us seven days a week county

[1:48:57] social workers so we don't hire

[1:49:00] social workers as a city

[1:49:01] employee we do partner with

[1:49:05] the county for mental health

[1:49:05] services.

[1:49:06] We partner with them with

[1:49:07] registered nurses and we

[1:49:10] partner with them for social

[1:49:10] workers So we do have them

[1:49:14] available As far as outreach

[1:49:15] into the community, I was

[1:49:16] thinking you were talking about

[1:49:21] more internally work with this

[1:49:22] one officers on a wellness side

[1:49:23] but well that and that as well

[1:49:24] because that is something that

[1:49:25] we also need to address because

[1:49:28] again we are putting a lot on

[1:49:29] our officers And so I do

[1:49:30] appreciate the efforts.

[1:49:34] I do appreciate the results

[1:49:35] from the crime stats that that

[1:49:35] we are seeing.

[1:49:39] So again, I just want to say

[1:49:40] thank you to our officers and

[1:49:41] thank you for the good work and

[1:49:42] thank you to your team in

[1:49:43] the mayor's office.

[1:49:44] But I do think we need to do

[1:49:48] more as we have you know, as we

[1:49:48] deal with with the behavioral

[1:49:49] health issues that I think

[1:49:53] there are other agencies

[1:49:54] organizations that need to take

[1:49:57] the lead into to have more

[1:49:58] responsibility and

[1:49:58] accountability so that we can

[1:50:03] address the core What I would

[1:50:03] want to say the core issues of

[1:50:04] some of the things that we are

[1:50:07] experiencing out in our

[1:50:07] community.

[1:50:08] So I just wanted to make sure

[1:50:09] that we talked about that

[1:50:17] briefly As I look at this also

[1:50:21] I just want to ask and I want

[1:50:22] to say this before I leave that

[1:50:23] because I just want everyone to

[1:50:23] also know that we have a severe

[1:50:27] shortage in our social workers,

[1:50:27] in our behavioral health

[1:50:31] experts and it is a very, very

[1:50:32] large problem and it's

[1:50:32] something that we've

[1:50:33] identified.

[1:50:36] I do sit on the San Diego

[1:50:36] Workforce Partnership where we

[1:50:37] are starting to expand our

[1:50:41] efforts in regards to

[1:50:41] apprenticeships and in certain

[1:50:42] trainings to bring more folks

[1:50:43] in to the behavioral health

[1:50:46] services so we can try and plug

[1:50:46] that gap.

[1:50:50] So we are trying to approach

[1:50:51] this comprehensively on all

[1:50:52] sides As I do recall you know

[1:50:55] me personally I do recognize

[1:50:56] the issues that are out there

[1:51:00] Also I do have a question on

[1:51:00] hate crimes and I guess

[1:51:05] originally and I'll use an

[1:51:05] example there was a moment in

[1:51:09] time where we were having some

[1:51:10] some individuals I guess I will

[1:51:15] say were going around and

[1:51:15] taking pellet guns in certain

[1:51:16] things that were doing

[1:51:19] inappropriate activities in in

[1:51:24] communities and originally I

[1:51:25] thought we were headed down a

[1:51:26] hate crime scenario but it

[1:51:29] looked like once it went

[1:51:30] through the investigative

[1:51:30] process the dea landed where

[1:51:34] they landed it looks like that

[1:51:35] was pulled back to where it was

[1:51:36] not a hate crime If I

[1:51:38] understood what was in

[1:51:39] the media reporting.

[1:51:40] So my question is based on

[1:51:44] the stats that are provided in

[1:51:44] the report, is that based on

[1:51:45] your data or is that a

[1:51:48] determined after the final

[1:51:49] determination of what the dea

[1:51:54] dea does?

[1:51:54] It's a fantastic question,

[1:51:55] Councilmember.

[1:51:55] And without knowing a little

[1:51:56] bit more information, I don't

[1:51:58] know that I can answer it

[1:51:59] correctly.

[1:51:59] >> But let me let me at least

[1:52:03] say this When there's a plea

[1:52:04] deal that's put on the table,

[1:52:04] they MAY take that hate crime

[1:52:08] charge off in terms of

[1:52:12] negotiating for future for a

[1:52:13] resolution of the case without

[1:52:17] having that attached to your to

[1:52:17] your file if you will.

[1:52:18] I can talk a little bit about

[1:52:22] that case because it's a

[1:52:22] fantastic example of how we

[1:52:27] work together as one community

[1:52:27] And we had some restorative

[1:52:30] justice there for those 319

[1:52:31] year old individuals who

[1:52:35] clearly were making some bad

[1:52:35] decisions.

[1:52:39] But I think working with the no

[1:52:40] shots fired program, working

[1:52:40] with the courts, working with

[1:52:45] the community, we were able to

[1:52:49] get these kids back on track

[1:52:50] and they're not going to be

[1:52:50] tarred and feathered for

[1:52:51] the rest of their lives because

[1:52:53] as bad decisions as 90 year

[1:52:54] olds So very proud of that

[1:52:58] case, very proud of the lgbt

[1:52:58] youth community for coming

[1:52:59] forward and sharing how it felt

[1:53:02] to be targeted.

[1:53:08] But having the strength to

[1:53:08] forgive.

[1:53:12] I just think it was it's a

[1:53:12] perfect example of why San

[1:53:13] Diego was a great, great city

[1:53:17] and I appreciate that because I

[1:53:18] don't think folks truly

[1:53:18] understand the details and how

[1:53:20] everything works together.

[1:53:25] So I do appreciate that.

[1:53:26] >> Let me check my notes really

[1:53:30] quick if you can.

[1:53:30] There's a slide in

[1:53:31] the presentation if you don't

[1:53:32] mind pulling that up.

[1:53:35] I do not see a page number on

[1:53:35] my end but it looks like it's

[1:53:40] an ip address and it says crime

[1:53:43] categories by Council District

[1:53:44] 2025 If you can pull that up

[1:53:45] really quick in the on

[1:53:51] the screen is that the green

[1:53:56] and blue and red?

[1:53:57] Yeah Yeah Can you control I

[1:53:59] think she's going to get it.

[1:54:04] Oh yeah and we'll try to make

[1:54:07] this quick going about 14 10s

[1:54:16] left to go Okay Thank you.

[1:54:17] There you go.

[1:54:18] And I understand you know as we

[1:54:21] drill back because we did see

[1:54:25] an uptick in certain categories

[1:54:26] as we look at gang some gang

[1:54:27] violence in certain things

[1:54:31] which I know folks are working

[1:54:32] very hard on.

[1:54:32] But I wanted to look at this

[1:54:33] Can you kind of help me to

[1:54:36] better understand what this

[1:54:41] slide represents Sense As I

[1:54:45] look at District four, you know

[1:54:45] it looks like we are in a good

[1:54:49] place as you compare it to

[1:54:50] the rest of this city and often

[1:54:54] times as I am out in

[1:54:55] the community or I hear certain

[1:54:59] references to my community is

[1:55:00] typically noted as unsafe.

[1:55:04] But as I look at this chart it

[1:55:08] kind of says the opposite that

[1:55:09] it appears District four is

[1:55:09] actually in a in a good place

[1:55:13] Not to say there's not room for

[1:55:14] improvement as well but it does

[1:55:17] appear that District four is

[1:55:17] not in the top three.

[1:55:21] I guess I'll say Let me let me

[1:55:22] start by saying Councilmember

[1:55:26] that that gang violence overall

[1:55:30] is down 13% While there are

[1:55:31] some categories within gang

[1:55:35] violence that have seen a what

[1:55:36] I would characterize at this

[1:55:40] point is a slight increase that

[1:55:41] we need to focus on But I

[1:55:42] wouldn't declared a problem

[1:55:44] we've seen over the last five

[1:55:45] years a steady decline in gang

[1:55:45] violence and all attributed

[1:55:49] that to community groups like

[1:55:50] the ones that we're here today

[1:55:54] the ones that that aren't

[1:55:54] necessarily here today but are

[1:55:55] out there doing the hard work.

[1:55:59] Our police officers or gang

[1:55:59] intervention unit that is

[1:56:03] starting to mentor kids at a

[1:56:04] young age we're starting to see

[1:56:08] the successes of things that

[1:56:09] have been planted from years in

[1:56:13] the past moving forward if we

[1:56:13] see increases again next year

[1:56:14] in a trend going up then I

[1:56:17] think I'd be a little bit more

[1:56:18] serious about it.

[1:56:18] But I think we have the right

[1:56:19] game plan.

[1:56:20] i think you'll see a normal ebb

[1:56:21] and flow that isn't anything to

[1:56:22] be concerned with.

[1:56:23] We're staying at a low level

[1:56:23] right now and that's a good

[1:56:24] thing.

[1:56:27] But to explain to the color

[1:56:28] chart there, let me ask my

[1:56:28] partner here to do that.

[1:56:29] Thanks to you.

[1:56:29] Yeah.

[1:56:32] Councilmember So to your point,

[1:56:33] I think what you're trying to

[1:56:33] get at is you know, with

[1:56:34] respect to the volume right

[1:56:37] your your district is

[1:56:38] relatively low And the way we

[1:56:38] typically look at this, you

[1:56:42] know, for from ourselves we're

[1:56:43] either looking at a command

[1:56:44] perspective or down all the way

[1:56:47] down to a beat level crime When

[1:56:48] you're looking at kind of macro

[1:56:49] for you know full year view of

[1:56:52] of you know, how did crime go

[1:56:52] and where was the crime it

[1:56:53] tends to follow pretty

[1:56:54] similarly with our call volume

[1:56:56] as well So you know downtown

[1:56:57] the beaches are our shopping

[1:57:01] centers places where you're

[1:57:02] going to have large collections

[1:57:02] of people, you're going to have

[1:57:05] more incidents And so most of

[1:57:06] your district is more suburban,

[1:57:07] right?

[1:57:10] The incidents that we see occur

[1:57:11] in that district are going to

[1:57:11] be a little more diffuse right

[1:57:12] there.

[1:57:12] They're spread out across a

[1:57:15] little bit more randomly than

[1:57:16] they might be in those those

[1:57:17] centralized locations like you

[1:57:20] imagine a shopping center or a

[1:57:21] place where you might have a

[1:57:22] lot of say alcohol related

[1:57:22] incidents.

[1:57:25] And so to your point I think

[1:57:26] with respect to the suburban

[1:57:26] areas we see in the city there

[1:57:30] generally going to be lower

[1:57:31] compared to our good large

[1:57:34] collections of people.

[1:57:35] Okay, very good And thank you

[1:57:39] for that And just again I'll

[1:57:40] say this simply put, District

[1:57:44] four is a safe community.

[1:57:45] So thank you.

[1:57:45] Thank you for all the work that

[1:57:50] you do and you know as we look

[1:57:54] at trends and I just want you

[1:57:55] to know that I am always here

[1:57:58] to to step up and to help out

[1:57:59] in any way I can.

[1:58:00] You know about that I work

[1:58:03] directly with my community and

[1:58:04] folks and I have absolutely no

[1:58:08] problem doing that and having

[1:58:08] those conversations.

[1:58:09] So with that again, Pastor

[1:58:10] Sandoval, thank you to you and

[1:58:13] your team for coming out today.

[1:58:19] I don't see anomalies Big Rudy

[1:58:19] But you know you know you kind

[1:58:20] of know a deal.

[1:58:21] You know you said you got a big

[1:58:25] sheet, bro, you know, But but

[1:58:26] you know, I just want to say

[1:58:30] hey, congratulations, Big Rudy

[1:58:31] and just thank you for

[1:58:31] everything that you do and

[1:58:32] you've come a long way.

[1:58:35] Deal.

[1:58:35] And you know, keep up the good

[1:58:36] work.

[1:58:40] So thank you.

[1:58:40] All right.

[1:58:41] Thank you, council PRESIDENT.

[1:58:44] That concludes my comments.

[1:58:45] >> You need more input from Big

[1:58:49] Ruby and their All right.

[1:58:50] Thank you.

[1:58:50] Councilmember Foster will go

[1:58:51] next to Councilmember Ella

[1:58:54] Rivera Thank you council

[1:58:55] PRESIDENT I don't know Ryan

[1:58:59] Heitman that video if you want

[1:59:03] to come through any time I just

[1:59:04] to thank you for the for

[1:59:04] the you know the presentation

[1:59:06] obviously But but more

[1:59:06] importantly for the work behind

[1:59:12] it to kind of piggyback on on

[1:59:14] COUNCILMAN Foster's comments,

[1:59:19] you know obviously it's

[1:59:20] important to to maintain

[1:59:21] accountability and and share

[1:59:24] when we feel like the mark

[1:59:25] isn't being met but also

[1:59:25] equally important to make sure

[1:59:29] we're acknowledging when a good

[1:59:29] work is done and the community

[1:59:30] is heading in the right

[1:59:34] direction in terms of safety

[1:59:34] And I think it's especially

[1:59:38] important that we we

[1:59:39] acknowledge that when

[1:59:43] the progress is being made to

[1:59:44] rein in the overtime hours that

[1:59:45] you've done I said it before

[1:59:48] and I'll say it again

[1:59:48] the progress that's that's been

[1:59:49] made we were told was

[1:59:53] impossible And not only have

[1:59:54] you proven that that's possible

[1:59:54] but we've done it without

[1:59:58] sacrificing the safety of San

[1:59:59] Diego residents And I think

[1:59:59] that's very, very important.

[2:00:03] Note and speaks to the work

[2:00:04] that you're doing in your

[2:00:07] position.

[2:00:08] So thank you for that.

[2:00:12] And to to that point that's a

[2:00:13] thank you to the community as

[2:00:13] well.

[2:00:17] Obviously the police department

[2:00:18] plays a very important role in

[2:00:19] preventing crime and stopping

[2:00:19] crime.

[2:00:22] But a community that isn't

[2:00:23] working well together is not a

[2:00:24] safe community And I know you

[2:00:27] believe that.

[2:00:28] I know we've had a lot of

[2:00:29] conversations about that And so

[2:00:32] you know, without diminishing

[2:00:33] in any way the role that

[2:00:33] the police department plays, i

[2:00:34] think it's incredibly important

[2:00:36] to acknowledge the community as

[2:00:37] well the neighbors who look out

[2:00:41] for one another, the folks who

[2:00:42] have have turned their lives

[2:00:46] into committing to creating

[2:00:47] safety and preventing folks

[2:00:48] from heading down the wrong

[2:00:51] track even though many times

[2:00:52] those roles are not glorious

[2:00:56] and certainly not well paid.

[2:00:56] So it's a community wide effort

[2:00:57] and I think all of San Diego

[2:01:00] deserves appreciation and

[2:01:01] applause for that.

[2:01:06] So thank you for believing that

[2:01:06] that is an important part of

[2:01:07] the equation to create a safe

[2:01:11] San Diego And I'm glad to see

[2:01:12] that this is the direction

[2:01:17] we're headed.

[2:01:17] My colleagues would ask great

[2:01:18] questions so I won't belabor

[2:01:18] those.

[2:01:19] I just want to say thank you

[2:01:19] again.

[2:01:21] Thank you Counsel PRESIDENT All

[2:01:22] right.

[2:01:22] Thank you Council member Ella

[2:01:23] Rivera We'll go next to council

[2:01:25] member Whitburn Thank you.

[2:01:26] Council PRESIDENT Thank you

[2:01:26] very much for this update.

[2:01:29] I'm pleased to see that one of

[2:01:30] the biggest decreases in crime

[2:01:31] is right here in District three

[2:01:34] with a double digit drop.

[2:01:35] There's always more police

[2:01:35] volume downtown than other

[2:01:39] areas of the city with so much

[2:01:39] going on and people coming and

[2:01:40] going.

[2:01:41] But it is good to see those

[2:01:43] numbers moving in the right

[2:01:43] direction.

[2:01:44] It's also be good to see more

[2:01:45] and more people moving into

[2:01:48] the area which is something

[2:01:48] that is really indicative of

[2:01:52] the degree to people like

[2:01:53] living downtown and in

[2:01:54] the District three area.

[2:01:58] I appreciate you including an

[2:01:59] update on hate crimes and I

[2:02:00] want to thank the department

[2:02:03] for how seriously you take

[2:02:03] them.

[2:02:07] Captain Dobbs, Western Division

[2:02:08] is very good about letting me

[2:02:08] know about such incidents

[2:02:12] increasing patrols when they

[2:02:13] occur so that the community

[2:02:14] sees that the department is

[2:02:17] there to protect them.

[2:02:18] And keeping me posted on

[2:02:18] the progress of

[2:02:22] the investigations which is why

[2:02:22] I know that our technology

[2:02:26] helps to solve these crimes.

[2:02:27] I also want to thank Central

[2:02:28] Division and Beach City

[2:02:28] Division which also serve

[2:02:31] District three,

[2:02:32] the Neighborhood Policing

[2:02:33] Division which is very active

[2:02:36] in my district.

[2:02:37] The officers who police

[2:02:37] the Gaslamp, the officers here

[2:02:42] at City Hall who keep all of us

[2:02:42] safe and everyone at

[2:02:43] the department who works to

[2:02:47] keep my constituents safe.

[2:02:47] So thank you and thank you

[2:02:48] Council PRESIDENT All right.

[2:02:48] Thank you.

[2:02:52] Council Woodburn I think not

[2:02:52] seeing anybody else in

[2:02:53] the lights I gave away a lot of

[2:02:57] my time so I'll just close by

[2:02:57] thanking my colleagues for

[2:03:02] questions and comments and echo

[2:03:02] them.

[2:03:03] Thank you for the very good

[2:03:06] work you know we rely a lot on

[2:03:07] numbers and metrics and

[2:03:10] statistics to provide evidence

[2:03:11] for the good work that we know

[2:03:12] you're doing every day.

[2:03:12] You and the officers in

[2:03:16] the rank and file and we try to

[2:03:16] provide the resources that you

[2:03:20] need to do that work And I'm

[2:03:21] very proud of that.

[2:03:22] Mayor and the council for

[2:03:25] supporting you in that regards

[2:03:25] .

[2:03:26] As new things come up of new

[2:03:29] challenges present themselves,

[2:03:30] we look forward to hearing from

[2:03:31] you about what you need and not

[2:03:35] giving it to you in this

[2:03:36] difficult budget conversation.

[2:03:39] So that's just a joke folks.

[2:03:44] So I also look forward to

[2:03:45] the state of California

[2:03:45] figuring out sb 580 and

[2:03:49] actually giving us guidelines

[2:03:53] that actually amplifies sb 54

[2:03:53] and look forward to your work

[2:03:54] in how you implement that going

[2:03:57] forward.

[2:03:58] So as that becomes an

[2:03:58] increasing part of

[2:03:59] the distraction that you all

[2:04:03] face is what the federal

[2:04:03] government is doing.

[2:04:04] It's the sandbox we live in.

[2:04:07] We just have to navigate that

[2:04:08] And I know that you are

[2:04:08] thinking about that and take

[2:04:09] that very seriously.

[2:04:12] So again thank.

[2:04:12] Thank you Chief.

[2:04:13] Thank you to the staff.

[2:04:17] Thank you to the rank and file

[2:04:18] and the good work they do every

[2:04:18] day on our behalf.

[2:04:21] All right.

[2:04:22] That was an information item.

[2:04:23] No motion was required so we

[2:04:26] will move along.

[2:04:27] Clerk please introduce item.

[2:04:27] Scuse me.

[2:04:31] 202 Item 2a2 is the appeal of

[2:04:31] the environmental determination

[2:04:34] for 710 Garnet Avenue

[2:04:35] straighter Your project number

[2:04:38] p rj Dash 1126 697.

[2:04:39] This item is not subject to

[2:04:43] the mayor's veto.

[2:04:44] If you'd like to speak to this

[2:04:45] item please be sure to submit

[2:04:46] your speaker slip to the front

[2:04:48] of the room in the clear box.

[2:04:48] And if you are participating

[2:04:49] remotely now's the time to

[2:04:53] raise your hand by pressing

[2:04:53] Star nine or the raise your

[2:04:54] hand icon.

[2:04:54] Thank you Council PRESIDENT.

[2:04:58] Thank you City Clerk I wanted

[2:04:58] to make mention of staff

[2:05:01] proceeds up here especially for

[2:05:02] those of you that are either in

[2:05:03] chambers for the very first

[2:05:07] time or watching remotely for

[2:05:07] the very first time.

[2:05:08] There's been a lot of talk in

[2:05:11] the media about public

[2:05:12] participation, about some

[2:05:16] amendments to the Brown Act

[2:05:16] that everybody is working very

[2:05:17] hard to update that will not

[2:05:20] take effect until JULY 1st.

[2:05:21] We call this a quasi judicial

[2:05:25] hearing and we have a protocol

[2:05:25] that we have done for many,

[2:05:29] many years about these hearings

[2:05:30] and how this will proceed is

[2:05:35] that operations will make their

[2:05:40] presentation will have a

[2:05:40] statement by the city attorney,

[2:05:44] the appellant will go next.

[2:05:45] They'll have up to ten minutes

[2:05:50] for their presentation and we

[2:05:50] will then invite the applicant

[2:05:51] to come up and they will have

[2:05:55] an opportunity to be up to ten

[2:05:56] minutes to make a presentation

[2:05:59] and then we will turn it over

[2:06:00] to the rest of the public

[2:06:04] comment going forward.

[2:06:05] So with that staff and I see

[2:06:06] your seat there, introduce

[2:06:09] yourselves for the record and

[2:06:10] let us know how much time you

[2:06:10] need.

[2:06:11] >> Thank you.

[2:06:13] I'll need about seven minutes.

[2:06:18] >> All right.

[2:06:18] Good afternoon.

[2:06:19] Council PRESIDENT, council

[2:06:19] members and members of

[2:06:20] the public.

[2:06:22] I am Travis Cleveland

[2:06:23] Development Project manager for

[2:06:23] the 710 Garnett Street Re

[2:06:27] Environmental Appeal.

[2:06:28] With me today is Courtney

[2:06:29] Hallock with the Environmental

[2:06:32] Analysis Section at Development

[2:06:33] Services.

[2:06:33] Before I proceed I'd like to

[2:06:35] read a memorandum into

[2:06:40] the record.

[2:06:41] I sent this earlier today.

[2:06:41] The subject project initially

[2:06:45] requested approval of a 60 foot

[2:06:49] by 12 foot eight inch st3 for a

[2:06:50] total of 760ft.

[2:06:54] Environmental analysis was

[2:06:54] performed on this measurement

[2:06:55] which is also used in the staff

[2:06:56] report.

[2:06:59] However, the St3 area was

[2:07:00] actually reduced in the last

[2:07:03] submittal to 43ft by 12ft for a

[2:07:04] total of 516ft.

[2:07:08] This is accurately reflected in

[2:07:09] the latest copy of the project

[2:07:13] plans submitted to Development

[2:07:14] Services which I did attach to

[2:07:14] that memorandum.

[2:07:17] This does not alter

[2:07:17] the conclusion of staff's

[2:07:22] environmental determination.

[2:07:28] The item before you is an

[2:07:28] appeal of the environmental

[2:07:29] determination for an

[2:07:32] approximately 516 square foot

[2:07:37] street or outdoor seating area

[2:07:38] at an existing restaurant.

[2:07:38] The environmental determination

[2:07:42] was made OCTOBER 14th, 2025 and

[2:07:45] was appealed on OCTOBER 27th

[2:07:50] 2025.

[2:07:54] >> On JULY 29th 2020 the 710

[2:07:54] Beach Club was issued a

[2:07:58] temporary business operations

[2:07:58] permit under the city's

[2:08:03] emergency outdoor operations

[2:08:03] regulations allowing them to

[2:08:04] build and operate a street tree

[2:08:08] platform in the parking spaces

[2:08:08] in front of the business.

[2:08:12] In response to the coronavirus

[2:08:13] emergency of 2020, these

[2:08:17] regulations were refined as

[2:08:18] part of the Spaces as Places

[2:08:19] program approved by the City

[2:08:22] Council in NOVEMBER 2021

[2:08:23] effective at this location in

[2:08:27] the coastal zone.

[2:08:28] On AUGUST 10th 2023 once

[2:08:28] the new regulations were in

[2:08:32] effect building in land use

[2:08:33] enforcement or blue.

[2:08:34] Notified the business that they

[2:08:37] needed to remove the platform

[2:08:38] or either remove the platform

[2:08:42] or obtain the required permits

[2:08:43] under the Spaces Places program

[2:08:44] including a coastal development

[2:08:48] permit and a right of public

[2:08:48] right of way permit.

[2:08:52] Blue began actively enforcing

[2:08:55] the unpermitted St3 in OCTOBER

[2:08:56] 2024 due to delays in

[2:08:57] submitting the current Coastal

[2:09:00] Development Permit application

[2:09:00] which was deemed complete in

[2:09:05] DECEMBER of 2024 and SEPTEMBER

[2:09:05] 2025.

[2:09:06] The business agreed to shorten

[2:09:10] the platform pay exclusive use

[2:09:11] fees for the public right of

[2:09:11] way, open up the disabled

[2:09:15] parking spaces that they had

[2:09:15] previously blocked and keep

[2:09:19] the platform closed until

[2:09:20] proper permits could be issued.

[2:09:24] The platform remains existing

[2:09:25] but closed.

[2:09:25] This is allowed the platform to

[2:09:26] remain in the right of way

[2:09:27] while the permit applications

[2:09:32] were in the process.

[2:09:36] >> On OCTOBER 14th, 2025 city

[2:09:37] staff determined the project to

[2:09:37] be exempt from the California

[2:09:41] Environmental Quality Act or

[2:09:42] Sequa and any notice of Right

[2:09:46] to Appeal or Nora was prepared

[2:09:47] and posted in accordance with

[2:09:47] the municipal code.

[2:09:51] The Nora was also distributed

[2:09:52] to the Council district

[2:09:52] recognized community groups and

[2:09:56] any other applicable interested

[2:09:56] parties for a ten working day

[2:09:57] appeal period.

[2:10:01] As required by the Municipal

[2:10:01] Code.

[2:10:03] That period ended on OCTOBER

[2:10:07] 28th, 2025.

[2:10:13] The project The project was

[2:10:13] reviewed in accordance with

[2:10:14] the sica Statute and guidelines

[2:10:17] to determine if it would result

[2:10:18] in environmental impacts.

[2:10:19] Staff concluded that

[2:10:22] the project was categorically

[2:10:23] exempt from Sequa.

[2:10:24] Pursuant to section 1533 to

[2:10:27] infill development projects,

[2:10:27] Class 32 consists of projects

[2:10:32] characterized as infill

[2:10:32] development.

[2:10:33] Meeting the requirements of

[2:10:36] this section to qualify for

[2:10:37] the Infill Development project

[2:10:37] a categorical exemption

[2:10:41] the project must meet all five

[2:10:41] listed criteria.

[2:10:46] >> The St3 is an extension to a

[2:10:47] restaurant which is consistent

[2:10:48] with the Visitor Commercial

[2:10:53] Plan designation and zone.

[2:10:57] The project site is less than

[2:10:57] five five acres and is located

[2:11:01] in an urban and developed area

[2:11:01] .

[2:11:07] Because the site is entirely

[2:11:07] developed with urban uses it

[2:11:11] has no value for it.

[2:11:12] No value as habitat for

[2:11:12] endangered rare or threatened

[2:11:16] species.

[2:11:17] The project would not result in

[2:11:21] any significant effects related

[2:11:22] to traffic noise, air quality

[2:11:22] or water quality.

[2:11:26] The project meets the screening

[2:11:26] criteria for a small project

[2:11:27] per the city's transportation

[2:11:31] study manual and therefore

[2:11:31] would be presumed to be less

[2:11:32] than significant.

[2:11:35] The project with You're

[2:11:36] required to comply with all

[2:11:36] applicable local, state and

[2:11:41] federal regulations ensuring

[2:11:41] that impacts to noise air

[2:11:42] quality and water quality would

[2:11:44] be lessened Sniffing out

[2:11:50] the proposed project involves

[2:11:51] the development of a new 516

[2:11:55] square foot st3 as an extension

[2:11:55] of an existing commercial

[2:11:56] building.

[2:11:56] The st3 would result in no

[2:12:00] change in need for public

[2:12:01] services and the project site

[2:12:01] would continue to be adequately

[2:12:04] served.

[2:12:13] Pursuant to dmca section

[2:12:14] 112.0520 and Environmental

[2:12:17] Debris Determination Free

[2:12:17] process three project MAY be

[2:12:18] appealed to the City Council

[2:12:19] subject to the underlying

[2:12:22] requirements which match

[2:12:23] the boxes checked on the appeal

[2:12:23] form.

[2:12:27] Filed appeals typically attach

[2:12:27] supporting information and or

[2:12:28] supporting documents.

[2:12:31] However, as filed the appeal

[2:12:32] checked only the boxes on

[2:12:32] the form and the appellant

[2:12:33] provided no further support.

[2:12:36] The appeal provided no

[2:12:37] explanation documentation or

[2:12:41] substantial evidence to support

[2:12:41] the claim that a factual error

[2:12:42] has occurred.

[2:12:43] The appeal does not provide any

[2:12:46] new information or substantial

[2:12:47] evidence to support a

[2:12:47] reasonable possibility that

[2:12:51] the project will have

[2:12:51] significant effect on

[2:12:52] the environment.

[2:12:53] The appeal does not demonstrate

[2:12:56] a conflict with any other

[2:12:56] matters.

[2:12:57] The appeal does not provide any

[2:12:57] substantial evidence

[2:13:01] demonstrating that the findings

[2:13:02] for the application of

[2:13:02] the infill exemption have not

[2:13:05] been met.

[2:13:06] If the environmental appeal is

[2:13:10] resolved the project must

[2:13:11] obtain a coastal development

[2:13:12] permit Future Hearing officer

[2:13:15] decision appealable to

[2:13:16] the Planning Commission.

[2:13:16] The project is in the Coastal

[2:13:17] Commission's Appeal

[2:13:20] jurisdiction so the city's I'm

[2:13:21] almost done.

[2:13:21] So the city's final decision is

[2:13:25] also appealable to the Coastal

[2:13:25] Commission.

[2:13:26] It must obtain a public right

[2:13:27] of way permit if the coastal

[2:13:30] development permit is issued

[2:13:30] and it must remain in

[2:13:31] compliance with all permit

[2:13:34] conditions.

[2:13:34] The administrative record

[2:13:35] demonstrates that the project

[2:13:36] would not have a significant

[2:13:38] impact on the environment.

[2:13:39] No evidence or documentation

[2:13:40] was provided related to any of

[2:13:43] the appeal grounds asserted as

[2:13:44] to factual error new

[2:13:44] information conflict with other

[2:13:45] matters or findings not

[2:13:48] supported.

[2:13:49] Staff therefore recommend that

[2:13:50] the City Council deny

[2:13:50] the appeal and approve

[2:13:53] the environment determination.

[2:13:53] Thank you.

[2:13:54] All right.

[2:13:54] Thank you for the work and for

[2:13:58] your presentation.

[2:13:59] As I noted before we hear from

[2:13:59] the applicant and

[2:14:00] the appellant.

[2:14:03] I'll turn it over to the office

[2:14:03] of the City Attorney.

[2:14:04] >> Thank you.

[2:14:07] Council PRESIDENT.

[2:14:08] The legal standard of review

[2:14:08] for environmental environmental

[2:14:12] appeals is de novo.

[2:14:12] That means the council must

[2:14:16] exercise independent judgment

[2:14:17] based on the record for today's

[2:14:18] item As to whether that Council

[2:14:22] agrees with the environmental

[2:14:23] determination.

[2:14:26] The project is not before you

[2:14:27] today.

[2:14:27] A court will uphold

[2:14:28] the Council's decision if it is

[2:14:32] supported by substantial

[2:14:32] evidence in the record.

[2:14:33] That concludes my comments.

[2:14:36] Thank you.

[2:14:37] All right.

[2:14:40] Thank you Leslie, for that

[2:14:41] opening statement.

[2:14:42] So now we will hear from

[2:14:46] the appellant on the item.

[2:14:47] Please come up to the mic.

[2:14:47] Introduce yourself for

[2:14:51] the record and you will have up

[2:14:51] to ten minutes to make your

[2:14:52] presentation.

[2:14:55] Well, we are here to give you

[2:15:00] the evidence to 710.

[2:15:01] By the way, I'm Scott Chipman.

[2:15:05] You probably remember me.

[2:15:05] 50 plus year resident of

[2:15:09] Pacific Beach Been on

[2:15:10] the planning group about 20

[2:15:13] years off and on and the 710

[2:15:14] Club Street Re did come to

[2:15:15] the planning group and it was

[2:15:18] voted unanimously to deny

[2:15:19] the project.

[2:15:23] The 710 has not been a good

[2:15:23] neighbor.

[2:15:24] They've been a horrible

[2:15:25] neighbor to hundreds of

[2:15:25] residents across the street and

[2:15:28] see the sea condominiums as

[2:15:28] well as to people wanting to

[2:15:32] enjoy a walk on the boardwalk

[2:15:33] at night And the guests and

[2:15:37] employees of Crystal Pier

[2:15:37] Hotel.

[2:15:38] Thank you for putting up

[2:15:42] the PowerPoint.

[2:15:42] For decades the nearby

[2:15:43] businesses and residents have

[2:15:46] been subjected to amplified

[2:15:47] noise deejays amplified music

[2:15:51] amplified obscenities amplified

[2:15:51] vulgarities.

[2:15:52] They have filed complaints,

[2:15:53] made calls for service and have

[2:15:57] gone have even gone to court

[2:15:57] including mediation but have

[2:16:01] had no or only sporadic relief.

[2:16:02] Now the community is threatened

[2:16:06] by an expansion onto

[2:16:06] the sidewalk and into

[2:16:07] the street of the very problems

[2:16:10] that they have been plagued

[2:16:11] with for decades.

[2:16:15] But we are not here to just say

[2:16:16] again that this is a bad bar

[2:16:20] but that 710 does not qualify

[2:16:21] for a secret exemption.

[2:16:25] As a matter of law under secure

[2:16:25] exemptions are to be

[2:16:30] interpreted narrowly and

[2:16:31] the burden is on the city to

[2:16:31] show the exemption applies.

[2:16:35] Following my presentation you

[2:16:35] will hear from neighbors who

[2:16:40] are representative examples of

[2:16:40] those directly impacted.

[2:16:45] There are several reasons

[2:16:46] the exemption does not apply.

[2:16:49] One there are unusual

[2:16:49] circumstances.

[2:16:50] There is an unusual

[2:16:54] circumstance exception in

[2:16:55] sequel to the cumulative

[2:16:58] exception.

[2:16:59] Three Coastal access and

[2:17:03] Parking impacts And for

[2:17:04] the Fair Argument Standard Next

[2:17:08] slide the unusual circumstances

[2:17:08] exception.

[2:17:14] Even if the city relies on a

[2:17:15] categorical exemption cannot

[2:17:18] apply if there is a reasonable

[2:17:19] possibility of a significant

[2:17:22] environmental impact due to

[2:17:22] unusual circumstances.

[2:17:27] Next slide.

[2:17:33] Hundreds of noise complaints

[2:17:34] Thousands over thousands over

[2:17:34] the decades.

[2:17:37] >> a superior court mandated

[2:17:42] mediation agreement.

[2:17:43] >> a known history of violating

[2:17:47] sound content containment

[2:17:47] requirements.

[2:17:48] A lack of air conditioning

[2:17:48] which was required by

[2:17:52] the mediation leading to open

[2:17:52] doors windows during amplified

[2:17:55] entertainment.

[2:18:00] Next slide incident reports.

[2:18:03] This is just a few months.

[2:18:08] Next slide.

[2:18:09] Next slide.

[2:18:13] I'm sorry.

[2:18:13] One moment.

[2:18:14] We're having some technical

[2:18:18] difficulties.

[2:18:19] We will pass your time.

[2:18:19] Thank you.

[2:18:23] And are we good?

[2:18:24] Okay.

[2:18:24] We're good.

[2:18:24] Okay.

[2:18:25] Yeah.

[2:18:28] It looks the same because these

[2:18:33] continue page after page after

[2:18:33] page.

[2:18:34] Next slide, please.

[2:18:34] Okay.

[2:18:38] Residents indicate there's no

[2:18:39] point in calling for incident

[2:18:39] numbers.

[2:18:40] Most of the time no one comes.

[2:18:41] No one does anything.

[2:18:43] Wait.

[2:18:44] Time is too long to stay on

[2:18:45] the phone for hours and wait to

[2:18:48] file a report.

[2:18:49] The majority of time they give

[2:18:56] up they do not report the noise

[2:18:56] .

[2:18:57] Next slide.

[2:18:57] Okay.

[2:19:02] These are the usual

[2:19:02] circumstances.

[2:19:03] Next slide.

[2:19:06] Okay.

[2:19:07] You can see this is the venue

[2:19:12] from across the street in

[2:19:12] the condos.

[2:19:16] Open doors open skylights.

[2:19:22] Next slide.

[2:19:22] >> So this is not a small

[2:19:23] sidewalk cafe expansion.

[2:19:27] It's an expansion of a high

[2:19:27] conflict historically

[2:19:28] non-compliant entertainment

[2:19:32] venue with documented noise

[2:19:33] impacts.

[2:19:33] Courts have held that when

[2:19:37] there is evidence of a

[2:19:38] reasonable possibility of

[2:19:42] significant noise impacts an

[2:19:43] exemption cannot stand.

[2:19:47] We do not have to prove impacts

[2:19:48] will occur occur only that

[2:19:49] there is substantial evidence

[2:19:53] they MAY occur but that is

[2:19:54] obvious.

[2:19:54] Next slide.

[2:19:59] Cumulative impacts Exception An

[2:20:03] exemption cannot be used if

[2:20:04] cumulative impacts are

[2:20:08] significant and we have years

[2:20:09] of cumulative impacts as well

[2:20:13] As we all know that this area

[2:20:14] has nightlife concentration.

[2:20:19] Seriously high crime and there

[2:20:20] was a prior court involvement.

[2:20:24] Next slide.

[2:20:29] So here are the crime stats

[2:20:29] 7905 2200 times.

[2:20:34] Citywide average crime.

[2:20:35] And much of it occurs in

[2:20:39] the street right in front of

[2:20:40] this venue.

[2:20:44] Next slide Everyone knows

[2:20:45] the parking scarcity near

[2:20:45] the beach.

[2:20:50] Next slide.

[2:20:50] This is a letter from

[2:20:54] the Coastal Commission

[2:21:00] indicating that within

[2:21:05] the coastal zone they must

[2:21:10] replace the parking.

[2:21:11] So if there's 5 or 6 parking

[2:21:15] spaces they have to be replaced

[2:21:15] .

[2:21:22] The coastal access impact This

[2:21:23] street removes public parking.

[2:21:27] Converts public right of way to

[2:21:28] private commercial use and

[2:21:29] potentially affects beach

[2:21:33] access.

[2:21:39] Next slide Consider

[2:21:45] the historic Crystal Pier

[2:21:45] allows the public to go out

[2:21:50] sightsee, look at the ocean and

[2:21:50] fish.

[2:21:51] Parking elsewhere still reduces

[2:21:56] parking availability here and

[2:21:56] to the boardwalk nearby.

[2:22:01] The city has failed to analyze

[2:22:01] whether replacement parking

[2:22:06] fully mitigates access impacts

[2:22:06] .

[2:22:07] The exemption improperly

[2:22:07] avoided environmental review of

[2:22:09] coastal access impacts.

[2:22:13] Next slide.

[2:22:19] Next slide.

[2:22:20] >> There's also a change of

[2:22:20] the intensity of use expanding

[2:22:24] the seating capacity actually

[2:22:25] increases the demand for

[2:22:30] parking on that block.

[2:22:30] Increased outdoor congregation

[2:22:35] The sidewalks are already often

[2:22:36] crowded and impassable.

[2:22:36] Potential for increased noise

[2:22:40] spillover.

[2:22:41] Increased demand for parking as

[2:22:42] more patrons are accommodated

[2:22:42] in.

[2:22:45] If you have ever heard of

[2:22:46] the term beer mussels that's a

[2:22:47] very common thing that happens

[2:22:47] in pub.

[2:22:51] You're walking down

[2:22:52] the sidewalk, it gets crowded.

[2:22:52] You decide you'll just bump up

[2:22:57] against a guy and see how he'll

[2:22:58] react If you don't like his

[2:23:01] reaction in becomes a fake.

[2:23:07] Next slide.

[2:23:08] There's strong evidence that

[2:23:08] this operator will not be

[2:23:13] compliant with the idea that

[2:23:14] they're going to comply with

[2:23:18] the noise city's noise

[2:23:19] regulations.

[2:23:23] I'm sorry that's embarrassing

[2:23:24] The city has not.

[2:23:24] We already heard from

[2:23:25] the police chief.

[2:23:26] These are not high priority

[2:23:29] calls.

[2:23:30] So they just stack up and stack

[2:23:33] up and stack up and frustrate

[2:23:34] the residents and

[2:23:39] the businesses nearby.

[2:23:44] Next slide.

[2:23:45] This is the calendar of abuse.

[2:23:50] We understand they want to have

[2:23:51] entertainment but

[2:23:51] the entertainment can't come at

[2:23:56] the expense of your quiet

[2:23:57] enjoyment To be able to watch

[2:24:02] tv or sleep in your own abode.

[2:24:07] Next slide.

[2:24:08] This is amazing.

[2:24:13] A handicapped space was removed

[2:24:13] so that they could expand or

[2:24:14] create a street.

[2:24:19] Obviously it was put back when

[2:24:19] residents filed a complaint.

[2:24:24] So what's going on here?

[2:24:25] Surreptitiously moving a

[2:24:25] handicapped parking space for

[2:24:30] your own financial gain.

[2:24:31] I'd be curious what kind of

[2:24:36] enforcement or penalty that

[2:24:36] that caused.

[2:24:41] Next slide.

[2:24:42] The sidewalk has become a venue

[2:24:47] and that's can be okay but not

[2:24:48] to this extreme.

[2:24:48] Next slide.

[2:24:58] TVs and speakers mounted on

[2:24:59] the sidewalk basically saying

[2:24:59] this is our sidewalk.

[2:25:05] It's not public.

[2:25:06] >> It's not a public access.

[2:25:07] Scott, you're going to run out

[2:25:11] of time So I'll give you an

[2:25:12] opportunity for a conclusion.

[2:25:12] I'll wrap up.

[2:25:13] Thank you.

[2:25:14] A concluding statement You had

[2:25:15] your ten minutes.

[2:25:15] Thank you.

[2:25:16] The exemption cannot apply due

[2:25:20] to the unusual circumstances.

[2:25:21] The substantial evidence of

[2:25:21] potential significant noise

[2:25:26] impacts the cumulative impacts

[2:25:26] and the parking loss in

[2:25:27] the coastal zone.

[2:25:27] The city cannot rely on

[2:25:32] replacement parking without

[2:25:32] analysis.

[2:25:33] We're just asking for analysis,

[2:25:34] not an exemption.

[2:25:34] Thank you.

[2:25:38] All right.

[2:25:39] Thank you for the presentation.

[2:25:40] Now I'll invite the applicant.

[2:25:44] You will also have up to ten

[2:25:45] minutes to make your

[2:25:45] presentation.

[2:25:45] I don't know who

[2:25:46] the spokesperson for

[2:25:50] the applicant is.

[2:25:51] I thought there was a

[2:25:55] presentation by the applicant.

[2:26:02] I believe you have a slide deck

[2:26:03] as well.

[2:26:03] There you go.

[2:26:04] I have one slide.

[2:26:04] There you go.

[2:26:09] All right.

[2:26:09] English is off the record and

[2:26:10] let us know.

[2:26:10] You have up to ten minutes.

[2:26:13] So my name's Scott Slager,

[2:26:19] owner of 17 Beach Club for 36

[2:26:19] years, started as an engineer

[2:26:20] in L.A. And came down to San

[2:26:25] Diego to do some work and

[2:26:25] bought a bar by the bar And ppb

[2:26:31] spent a lot of time in ppb

[2:26:31] because I was 26 years old and

[2:26:32] I love music.

[2:26:36] Big fan of Live entertainment.

[2:26:37] I owned two music clubs in San

[2:26:38] Diego and I do a lot of music

[2:26:42] production in the city of San

[2:26:43] Diego.

[2:26:43] I believe that contrary to some

[2:26:49] of the statements that have

[2:26:49] been made today, I've done

[2:26:50] everything I can in

[2:26:55] the commercial zone with a

[2:26:55] license that I paid dearly for

[2:26:59] for live entertainment to be

[2:27:00] there at 710 Garnet And it was

[2:27:01] there prior to that for 30

[2:27:05] years prior to the condominium

[2:27:06] complex that got built across

[2:27:06] the street.

[2:27:11] So I believe that as long as I

[2:27:12] haven't had a violation in

[2:27:13] the last 35 years which is

[2:27:17] the case, I do have the right I

[2:27:18] believe to operate within my

[2:27:21] permits.

[2:27:28] So having said that,

[2:27:29] the handicapped parking issue

[2:27:29] is the only thing I want to

[2:27:30] address from what MR. Shipman

[2:27:30] talked about.

[2:27:34] I did that legally through dsd.

[2:27:34] Everything was done.

[2:27:40] It was not serendipitous.

[2:27:40] I've never done anything

[2:27:41] illegal.

[2:27:41] Okay.

[2:27:46] So with that being said, I'll

[2:27:46] give you a little bit of

[2:27:47] history About 710 Beach Club it

[2:27:52] used to be by Mellons I named

[2:27:53] it by Melinda in 1989.

[2:27:54] It was a blues club when I

[2:27:58] purchased it.

[2:27:59] The bar that existed was called

[2:27:59] Bangers.

[2:27:59] Bangers was basically a

[2:28:00] motorcycle club.

[2:28:05] I eradicate it that I try to

[2:28:05] eliminate the noise because I

[2:28:06] was getting calls for service

[2:28:10] from the motorcycles daily.

[2:28:16] Ultimately I got embroiled in

[2:28:22] what you would call politics

[2:28:23] and I became the PRESIDENT Of

[2:28:24] the largest business

[2:28:24] improvement association in

[2:28:29] the United States 20 2200

[2:28:29] businesses.

[2:28:33] I spoke right here in 1995 to

[2:28:34] create the largest bid as I was

[2:28:35] the PRESIDENT And that took

[2:28:35] four years of my life.

[2:28:39] During that time I actually

[2:28:40] created a nonprofit that

[2:28:45] created Census Patrol pieces of

[2:28:45] patrol.

[2:28:46] We were the ones that actually

[2:28:47] caught the pd rapist.

[2:28:51] I was instrumental in that part

[2:28:52] because the pd Rapist was a

[2:28:53] band member playing in my clubs

[2:28:57] at the time.

[2:28:58] We work with the fbi so I am a

[2:28:58] community guy from that

[2:28:59] perspective.

[2:29:03] I followed that with 15 years

[2:29:04] of being a director on the Food

[2:29:05] and Beverage Society of San

[2:29:09] Diego.

[2:29:10] So I do put my time into

[2:29:15] the community in Ocean Beach

[2:29:16] way on my other bar called

[2:29:16] Winstons.

[2:29:17] My partner and I are actively

[2:29:21] involved in all the community

[2:29:22] groups and we have raised

[2:29:22] hundreds of thousands of

[2:29:23] dollars through our bar and our

[2:29:28] events to add to that community

[2:29:28] success.

[2:29:33] I started working with

[2:29:34] the Wounded Warrior Freedom

[2:29:38] Station Wounded Warriors about

[2:29:38] ten years ago.

[2:29:39] You'll hear from the director

[2:29:40] sometime today.

[2:29:44] i've raised over $100,000 for

[2:29:45] that organization through my

[2:29:50] businesses so I'm just trying

[2:29:51] to say to you Council that I do

[2:29:55] have the right, I believe to do

[2:29:56] what I'm doing And a couple of

[2:29:57] really interesting things that

[2:30:02] occurred over the last 30

[2:30:02] years.

[2:30:03] I don't even own the building

[2:30:03] there yet.

[2:30:07] I had to put $150,000 into a

[2:30:07] complete remodel to try to

[2:30:13] reduce noise.

[2:30:13] I happened to be an engineer.

[2:30:14] I understand sound.

[2:30:17] We by doing that $150,000 out

[2:30:21] of my pocket we reduce

[2:30:22] the sound by three db which is

[2:30:22] double the power.

[2:30:28] Later I actually added air

[2:30:28] conditioning and large they

[2:30:33] call them big fans to reduce

[2:30:33] my.

[2:30:34] I guess conceptually if I have

[2:30:35] to open doors and windows when

[2:30:40] it's hot in the summer I don't

[2:30:40] have that problem anymore.

[2:30:41] Scott Shachtman did mention

[2:30:45] about I did have a speaker

[2:30:46] pointed outside to the street

[2:30:46] during covid.

[2:30:51] I was desperate.

[2:30:52] I wanted people to enjoy

[2:30:52] outdoors.

[2:30:56] I was losing $60,000 a month

[2:30:57] with no income through my four

[2:31:01] enterprises during covid.

[2:31:02] And to that end, if you look at

[2:31:03] the slide up here, all I'm

[2:31:08] trying to do is get a street

[2:31:12] reopened and I have already

[2:31:13] spent $125,000 and I have been

[2:31:18] closed since APRIL of last

[2:31:18] year.

[2:31:23] It's just sitting there And

[2:31:24] during this $125,000

[2:31:24] expenditure there were people

[2:31:29] from dsd specifically to Carrie

[2:31:30] Lindsay that literally told me

[2:31:35] i had to pay $57,000 at

[2:31:36] the time to not remove my

[2:31:40] street three 57,000 for back

[2:31:40] rent during covid.

[2:31:46] So I don't know how many of you

[2:31:53] own a business during covid but

[2:31:54] I almost lost everything and

[2:32:03] here I am for a simple theory

[2:32:09] that All right, thank you for

[2:32:10] your presentation.

[2:32:16] >> We're going to hear a lot

[2:32:16] more things you like and you

[2:32:17] dislike Thumbs up, thumbs down

[2:32:18] really helps us move right

[2:32:20] along.

[2:32:21] Thank you for the presentation

[2:32:22] And with that clerk please

[2:32:27] proceed with public comment.

[2:32:28] >> Council PRESIDENT Before I

[2:32:29] begin I will note that we will

[2:32:29] be a minute per person.

[2:32:33] We do have several speakers

[2:32:34] here to speak on this item But

[2:32:34] one housekeeping thing.

[2:32:35] I know there is confusion

[2:32:39] understanding if you're in

[2:32:39] favor or in opposition

[2:32:40] the speakership should be if

[2:32:41] you're in favor of the staff

[2:32:44] recommendation or in opposition

[2:32:45] of the staff recommendation.

[2:32:46] The staff recommendation is to

[2:32:46] deny the appeal.

[2:32:51] Everyone submitted a request to

[2:32:51] speak in favor.

[2:32:52] So we just want to make sure if

[2:32:53] when you come up to your to

[2:32:56] the lectern to please say if

[2:32:57] you're in favor or in

[2:32:58] opposition so that I can get

[2:32:58] that appropriately for

[2:32:59] the record.

[2:33:03] So if you're in favor or you're

[2:33:03] in favor of the denial of

[2:33:04] the appeal.

[2:33:04] If you're in opposition, you're

[2:33:08] in opposition of the staff

[2:33:09] recommendation which is denial

[2:33:09] of the appeal starting with

[2:33:15] rent garage.

[2:33:15] If you can please come up to

[2:33:16] the microphone after that is

[2:33:17] requested.

[2:33:17] If you can please come up to

[2:33:20] the other reserved seats at

[2:33:20] the front.

[2:33:21] Then we have Dale Gauthier,

[2:33:26] Candy Hogan, Willis Allen not

[2:33:33] seeing anybody get up is our

[2:33:38] usher our emg, a r a j?

[2:33:39] We had to leave.

[2:33:39] Okay.

[2:33:44] Ritesh, are you here?

[2:33:51] Okay, Dale, you have time to go

[2:33:51] To you by Gordon.

[2:33:52] MISS Gordon Still here?

[2:33:56] Gordon For for Lucca?

[2:33:56] Yes.

[2:33:57] I just need you to raise your

[2:34:00] hand so if you're here you'll

[2:34:01] have two minutes.

[2:34:01] >> Please proceed.

[2:34:02] All right.

[2:34:03] I am in opposition to the staff

[2:34:08] recommendation.

[2:34:08] Thank you.

[2:34:09] Whatever that was, that works

[2:34:09] out okay.

[2:34:14] Good afternoon, Council members

[2:34:14] Staff.

[2:34:15] My name is Dale Gauthier and

[2:34:19] I'm representing myself as an

[2:34:20] owner of property in the c

[2:34:25] Condominiums which are directly

[2:34:26] across Garnett from the 710

[2:34:32] kept hearing it called a

[2:34:32] restaurant.

[2:34:32] It's a bar.

[2:34:33] I have owned my property for

[2:34:37] more than a decade and

[2:34:38] the impact this bar has had on

[2:34:38] my property and quality of life

[2:34:39] in that neighborhood is

[2:34:43] indescribable.

[2:34:44] The loud raucous music at all

[2:34:44] hours they're open but

[2:34:49] particularly at night the music

[2:34:50] is blasting and even worse with

[2:34:50] live bands.

[2:34:51] There's vulgarity, sidewalk

[2:34:56] fights, public intoxication of

[2:34:57] the century 710 at night that

[2:35:02] we're all subject to.

[2:35:02] Not only does this 17 ownership

[2:35:07] and management allow this

[2:35:08] behavior, they actively act to

[2:35:09] amplify the behavior resulting

[2:35:13] in direct threats to public

[2:35:13] safety.

[2:35:14] This is not your neighborhood

[2:35:15] Cheers Bar As you've heard from

[2:35:19] others or from scouts

[2:35:20] presentations doors windows are

[2:35:25] often left open with plastic

[2:35:25] music coming out.

[2:35:26] The proposed street bar will

[2:35:31] only make noise levels to

[2:35:32] the neighborhood and that we

[2:35:33] experience worse because

[2:35:37] the food, the food and beverage

[2:35:38] servers will have to have

[2:35:38] egress ingress to the bar to

[2:35:44] deliver the services to

[2:35:49] the street bar as it is now

[2:35:49] the property values on

[2:35:50] the north side of the building

[2:35:51] are devalued over the rest of

[2:35:51] the units in the building.

[2:35:56] If you look at historical

[2:35:56] resale prices, they're

[2:35:57] typically 4 to $500,000 less.

[2:36:01] Not because of ocean view

[2:36:02] differences because of this 710

[2:36:08] bar when when our building was

[2:36:08] originally built cool ocean

[2:36:09] breezes we didn't need it.

[2:36:13] Now we have to have all

[2:36:13] the windows and sliders closed.

[2:36:14] >> Thank you for that

[2:36:14] concluding remark.

[2:36:15] Your time has come.

[2:36:20] Strongly urged the county Hogan

[2:36:21] County Hogan to the following

[2:36:21] Individuals can please raise

[2:36:25] their hands.

[2:36:25] Kathleen Lippert, thank you.

[2:36:26] You'll have two minutes if you

[2:36:31] can If you need anything over

[2:36:32] here.

[2:36:32] Yes.

[2:36:33] You'll give it to my staff.

[2:36:33] They'll get it.

[2:36:34] They'll get it distributed.

[2:36:35] You to polygraphs.

[2:36:42] I'd like better if it's ever

[2:36:42] here.

[2:36:42] You'll have two minutes.

[2:36:43] Please proceed.

[2:36:44] If you can go to the higher

[2:36:48] microphone will capture you a

[2:36:48] little bit better.

[2:36:48] Thank you.

[2:36:49] Well, first of all, I want to

[2:36:53] thank you all for your hard

[2:36:53] work.

[2:36:54] I know that's a thankless job

[2:36:59] sitting up there so I.

[2:37:00] I really appreciate it.

[2:37:00] If you look at the photos,

[2:37:01] you'll see that the building is

[2:37:05] across the street from 76

[2:37:05] condos.

[2:37:06] These homeowners have paid

[2:37:10] taxes and supported the city

[2:37:11] several years back.

[2:37:12] We went to mediation for a full

[2:37:12] year.

[2:37:17] We're told that if we did they

[2:37:17] would do something about

[2:37:18] the noise.

[2:37:18] We all gave up time and

[2:37:23] everything just to go to

[2:37:24] mediation 710 Club because

[2:37:24] the decibel readings in

[2:37:29] the condo that I owned at night

[2:37:33] were above inside my condo 65db

[2:37:34] at night my floor actually you

[2:37:39] could hear every single

[2:37:40] drumbeat They would leave

[2:37:41] the doors open, the skylight

[2:37:46] open and after a year of

[2:37:47] mediation the owner said he

[2:37:52] admitted that he wanted to play

[2:37:53] the music out to attract

[2:37:53] the patrons from the other

[2:37:54] bars.

[2:37:57] It was agreed upon that they

[2:37:58] would close the doors and shut

[2:37:58] everything during the time of

[2:37:59] amplified music.

[2:38:03] It wasn't a real solution

[2:38:04] because now they have all

[2:38:05] the opening and every time they

[2:38:09] open the doors all the time

[2:38:10] still comes out and they kept

[2:38:11] the skylight open no matter

[2:38:15] what we did And how many times

[2:38:16] they called it wouldn't it has

[2:38:17] not stopped over years.

[2:38:22] Please consider the 76

[2:38:22] homeowners of this of these

[2:38:27] condominiums across this small

[2:38:28] street and realize that a 17

[2:38:29] club is not an owner of

[2:38:34] the real estate But we we who

[2:38:34] paid hundreds of thousands of

[2:38:39] dollars in property tax are

[2:38:40] being affected very horribly

[2:38:46] negatively Please help us Also

[2:38:47] I don't know if you know

[2:38:47] additionally you'll see in

[2:38:48] the pictures they are now

[2:38:53] serving beer And thank you for

[2:38:54] the on the street comment on

[2:38:55] the site Your time has come.

[2:38:55] Thank you.

[2:39:00] Thank you.

[2:39:01] Well if Alan Well as you have

[2:39:02] time to go to my Claudia Alan

[2:39:04] can please raise your hand.

[2:39:05] >> Thank you.

[2:39:05] You'll have two minutes.

[2:39:06] Thank you very much.

[2:39:06] Council PRESIDENT Council

[2:39:10] members My name as well as

[2:39:11] Alan.

[2:39:11] I'm representing the ownership

[2:39:12] of Crystal Pier Hotel and

[2:39:16] Cottages and Pacific Beach.

[2:39:16] We're adjacent to the 17 Beach

[2:39:17] Club at 710 Garnet I'm here to

[2:39:22] respectfully request that you

[2:39:23] grant for our appeal and deny

[2:39:28] any continued legal exemption

[2:39:28] for the 710 Club St3 our hotel

[2:39:29] and the large condominium

[2:39:34] building directly across

[2:39:34] the street have endured endured

[2:39:35] significant adverse impact from

[2:39:39] this bar for over 35 years and

[2:39:39] those impacts have been

[2:39:44] intensified Not relieved by

[2:39:45] this retreat.

[2:39:45] First the noise during the day

[2:39:50] and late night disruption or

[2:39:51] constant noise from the parties

[2:39:51] patrons is so bad that our

[2:39:56] front staff has to close

[2:39:57] the doors of the office of

[2:39:58] the hotel, go into the back

[2:39:58] office to try to speak to

[2:40:02] customers.

[2:40:02] We've had to extend our

[2:40:03] security guard hours simply to

[2:40:09] deal with the noise and unruly

[2:40:09] patrons at the bar closing.

[2:40:10] This is not compatible with a

[2:40:14] visitor serving coastal hotel

[2:40:15] or with residents trying to

[2:40:15] live and sleep in a condominium

[2:40:20] across the street.

[2:40:21] Secondly, there is a direct

[2:40:21] economic and quality of life

[2:40:26] harm We have had to comp rooms

[2:40:27] and provide discounts to guests

[2:40:32] who were disrupted by noise and

[2:40:33] bad behavior associated with

[2:40:33] this bar.

[2:40:37] Guests were kept away awake,

[2:40:38] feel unsafe and they don't

[2:40:43] really return.

[2:40:44] They don't rebook and with all

[2:40:45] these negative experiences they

[2:40:45] share with other people.

[2:40:50] So it's kind of damaging to a

[2:40:50] longstanding business.

[2:40:54] The hotel's been in business

[2:40:54] consistently for 90 years This

[2:40:55] year the condominium residents

[2:41:00] likewise they live with these

[2:41:01] impacts night after night, day

[2:41:01] after day with no ability to

[2:41:02] check out when it becomes

[2:41:07] intolerable.

[2:41:07] Thirdly, this really worsens

[2:41:08] parking and circulation of our

[2:41:13] Annette That's that was two

[2:41:14] minutes Thank you for your

[2:41:14] concluding comment.

[2:41:15] Okay but also I have also had

[2:41:16] the opportunity so you get

[2:41:18] the point.

[2:41:18] Thank you.

[2:41:18] Holly Birch.

[2:41:19] Holly Cherry Thomas you did

[2:41:19] your time.

[2:41:23] Thank you very much.

[2:41:23] You'll have two minutes.

[2:41:30] Please let me know and present

[2:41:31] the hoa at cdc condos.

[2:41:31] I've lived there since 1982.

[2:41:35] The condominiums were built in

[2:41:35] 1972.

[2:41:40] We had a card room across

[2:41:40] the street from us.

[2:41:41] 25 years later Scott Legere put

[2:41:42] in the Blind Melon 710 bar.

[2:41:45] So as far as who was there

[2:41:46] first it was us.

[2:41:47] By 25 years we had a mediation

[2:41:47] agreement.

[2:41:52] Scott agreed during mediation

[2:41:53] agreement with the judge to

[2:41:53] keep all the doors windows

[2:41:54] closed and the vents and

[2:41:57] install an ac.

[2:41:58] There's no ac that's working.

[2:41:59] Doors and windows are always

[2:41:59] open.

[2:42:04] We are subjected to.

[2:42:05] He also promised that he would

[2:42:05] answer the phone when we would

[2:42:06] call.

[2:42:10] Not only does that not happen

[2:42:10] if you do manage to get through

[2:42:13] you're called every name in

[2:42:14] the book.

[2:42:15] One other thing I want you to

[2:42:16] know is that we have a theme

[2:42:19] song of the 710 bar and this is

[2:42:19] what we get to listen to And

[2:42:24] this is played during the day

[2:42:25] and it's by a guy called f Roll

[2:42:26] Man and it's called Because I

[2:42:31] Got high and this is what we

[2:42:31] hear.

[2:42:32] And so the children can hear

[2:42:32] this in our neighborhood.

[2:42:37] You guys should be able to hear

[2:42:37] it too.

[2:42:38] i could've cheated that I could

[2:42:39] have passed but I got high.

[2:42:39] I was going to go to court

[2:42:40] before I got high.

[2:42:42] I was going to pay my child

[2:42:43] support but when I got there I

[2:42:43] got high.

[2:42:44] I was going to run for the cops

[2:42:48] but I was high.

[2:42:49] I was going to make love to you

[2:42:49] And then I got high.

[2:42:50] I was going to eat your but

[2:42:53] then I got high.

[2:42:54] >> Now I'm jacking off and I

[2:42:55] know why This is what we hear

[2:42:59] every day.

[2:43:00] This theme song great for kids

[2:43:00] and tourists.

[2:43:06] I urge you not to read the sex

[2:43:06] exemption.

[2:43:07] We've been there 25 years

[2:43:11] before them had no problem.

[2:43:12] We're surrounded by bars.

[2:43:17] The hideaway pool house, you

[2:43:18] name it.

[2:43:18] There's only one bar we have a

[2:43:19] problem with and we're actually

[2:43:23] closer to the other bars.

[2:43:24] >> But this is the one That's

[2:43:24] the one that's causing us

[2:43:25] trouble.

[2:43:30] Thank you.

[2:43:30] >> Well, you caught me by

[2:43:31] surprise.

[2:43:31] There are children occasionally

[2:43:35] listening to these council

[2:43:36] meetings as well.

[2:43:36] Please keep that in mind.

[2:43:42] You can make your point.

[2:43:43] Know if I can have

[2:43:44] the following individuals

[2:43:47] please come up to the yellow

[2:43:48] reserved seats Denise Friedman

[2:43:49] and Scott Shepherd Patti

[2:43:54] Gullickson and Craig Ferguson.

[2:43:55] If you can all please come up

[2:43:56] to the yellow reserved seats

[2:44:00] And Denise you can come up to

[2:44:00] the microphone.

[2:44:01] And then I'd also ask as Denise

[2:44:01] makes her way up to

[2:44:05] the microphone if Todd person

[2:44:06] can please come up here to

[2:44:07] the side my staff will be

[2:44:11] speaking with you Todd Pursell

[2:44:11] you'll have one minute Please

[2:44:12] proceed.

[2:44:12] Thank you.

[2:44:13] I am speaking on behalf of

[2:44:18] myself not any organization or

[2:44:19] my title This year in JANUARY I

[2:44:24] chose to have a staycation in

[2:44:25] pb.

[2:44:29] I was awakened late in

[2:44:30] the evening by cheering and

[2:44:30] screaming.

[2:44:31] I dressed went outside to try

[2:44:36] to figure out where this was

[2:44:36] coming from and it was coming

[2:44:42] from 710 I noticed from across

[2:44:43] the street because the sidewalk

[2:44:43] was inaccessible that there

[2:44:44] were a group of people out

[2:44:48] there with buckets of beer As I

[2:44:49] watched the bartender refill

[2:44:54] that bucket of beer that's not

[2:44:55] allowed out on a public street

[2:44:55] having served for years now our

[2:45:01] community caught It's a big no

[2:45:01] no.

[2:45:02] People are ticketed all

[2:45:05] the time Walking out of seven

[2:45:06] the 7-Eleven and popping their

[2:45:11] beer and getting tickets.

[2:45:12] I politely went over and

[2:45:12] advised the young group that it

[2:45:17] was illegal and they should be

[2:45:18] bringing it inside.

[2:45:18] It didn't work.

[2:45:19] Thank you for that concluding

[2:45:19] comment.

[2:45:25] Next is Ask Jay Scott Shopper I

[2:45:29] believe Sam named Kirkman Thank

[2:45:29] you.

[2:45:35] I'm speaking in favor of

[2:45:35] the denial.

[2:45:36] Thank you times Okay, so I'm a

[2:45:39] local attorney For two decades

[2:45:40] I've represented this business.

[2:45:41] It has its own valuable

[2:45:46] property rights that aren't

[2:45:46] being mentioned.

[2:45:47] What we're hearing today is a

[2:45:47] lot of complaints from other

[2:45:48] property owners seeking to

[2:45:51] advance their own property

[2:45:52] interests by shutting down a

[2:45:52] business that operates lawfully

[2:45:53] under an existing entertainment

[2:45:58] permit and pursuant to San

[2:45:59] Diego ordinance regarding noise

[2:45:59] levels, these appellants do not

[2:46:00] really understand

[2:46:04] the application of noise

[2:46:04] ordinance which is one hour

[2:46:05] weighted averaging.

[2:46:06] I was part of the mediation and

[2:46:10] it was found at that time that

[2:46:11] with sound engineers we hired

[2:46:11] that this noise from this

[2:46:15] location does not exceed those

[2:46:16] levels.

[2:46:17] The entertainment permit

[2:46:17] requires them to operate with

[2:46:18] their doors closed in hours

[2:46:21] When they're doing that during

[2:46:22] live entertainment the outdoor

[2:46:23] stuff is just a modest thing.

[2:46:27] This is about a secret review

[2:46:27] And when you look at those

[2:46:28] standards, these complaints do

[2:46:29] not reach what we're dealing

[2:46:34] with This thing has been

[2:46:35] reviewed by the staff through a

[2:46:35] rigorous vetting process

[2:46:36] carefully considered each

[2:46:39] required element It meets

[2:46:39] the criteria including a

[2:46:51] sentence Patty think had to go

[2:46:52] with something else.

[2:46:57] Hello my name's Harry.

[2:46:58] I'm a single mother at

[2:47:02] the Pacific Beach Community.

[2:47:03] I've known Patty and Scott for

[2:47:04] over ten years and they are a

[2:47:09] wonderful part of the community

[2:47:09] and wonderful people.

[2:47:14] They are actually my daughter's

[2:47:15] 3004 West and Pacific Beach

[2:47:19] soccer team and they offered me

[2:47:20] graciously offered to sponsor

[2:47:21] my daughter's soccer team and

[2:47:21] then her soccer team is going

[2:47:26] to Spain in JULY And so they

[2:47:27] offered to do some fundraisers

[2:47:31] to help us raise money to get

[2:47:32] her team there.

[2:47:33] And um, I love the patio.

[2:47:38] I go there a couple times a

[2:47:39] month and I really MISS

[2:47:39] The patio and I'm excited to

[2:47:40] get it back.

[2:47:44] Hopefully.

[2:47:50] >> Craig Craig Borges Honey.

[2:47:50] Wonderful job for dancing My

[2:47:51] last name.

[2:47:56] Thank you.

[2:47:57] Council members per McCarver.

[2:48:01] I MAY quote Star Trek.

[2:48:02] Spock once said the needs of

[2:48:03] the many outweigh the needs of

[2:48:08] the few.

[2:48:09] And I feel that's what we're

[2:48:09] experiencing here today.

[2:48:10] 25 years I've been in Pacific

[2:48:13] Beach and I've watched I

[2:48:14] believe what you guys have

[2:48:14] blessed for bringing lots of

[2:48:20] people to my beach via the tv

[2:48:20] spots I see they're working

[2:48:25] qualitatively I can say they're

[2:48:25] working.

[2:48:26] And it upsets me to see that

[2:48:27] the local beach businesses

[2:48:28] especially Salmon Beach Club

[2:48:31] cannot scale to meet this

[2:48:32] demand that you guys are

[2:48:37] bringing to our beautiful beach

[2:48:37] .

[2:48:38] They do a wonderful job.

[2:48:39] What they do is give back to

[2:48:39] the community.

[2:48:43] So I'm here to say I believe in

[2:48:44] the recommendation to deny

[2:48:49] the appeal.

[2:48:50] Todd Purcell After that will be

[2:48:56] Sandra Lim Color on color.

[2:49:01] I think I just lost my good

[2:49:01] pronunciation and missed a

[2:49:08] sweet f w e t George Sweet i

[2:49:08] believe.

[2:49:09] And I'm Blair Big Ben Bob

[2:49:10] because you ski If you can all

[2:49:10] please come forward to

[2:49:13] the other reserve seats please

[2:49:14] proceed.

[2:49:14] >> Good afternoon.

[2:49:15] Thank you for being here.

[2:49:18] My name is Todd Pearsall.

[2:49:19] I moved to our wonderful city

[2:49:20] in 1988 from Wisconsin.

[2:49:25] I came here to play rugby with

[2:49:26] on back and then I went to

[2:49:26] California Western School of

[2:49:27] Law.

[2:49:30] I'm a 64 year old attorney.

[2:49:31] I do like going around having a

[2:49:36] refreshment in the sun and I

[2:49:36] hope you will grant this a st

[2:49:37] re.

[2:49:38] But let me tell you how good

[2:49:42] Scott is.

[2:49:43] 32 years ago I had a small

[2:49:43] packer bar.

[2:49:47] We had a Toys for Tots drive

[2:49:48] and after we delivered our toys

[2:49:49] to the fire department in p b I

[2:49:53] stopped by on a little sunny

[2:49:59] tour of pb the 710 Club which

[2:49:59] was blind melons and told him

[2:50:00] what I did and he said We'd

[2:50:01] like to be part of it.

[2:50:04] For the last 31 years blind

[2:50:09] melons and or the 710 Club as

[2:50:10] it's called has been part of

[2:50:11] this Toys for Tots Drive that I

[2:50:15] have ran in in the city in pb

[2:50:16] at 12 bars.

[2:50:17] We need a 40 foot truck.

[2:50:21] The boys get eight grand a year

[2:50:22] Santa a great things come

[2:50:26] forward First of all PRESIDENT

[2:50:26] LaCava and council members

[2:50:27] thank you for what you do.

[2:50:31] I'm amazed by this whole

[2:50:32] process.

[2:50:32] Thank you.

[2:50:33] I really want to say I don't

[2:50:37] think you guys get paid enough

[2:50:38] so thank you.

[2:50:39] However this turns out, I'm

[2:50:39] amazed by this process.

[2:50:44] I wanted to introduce myself.

[2:50:44] My name is Sandy.

[2:50:45] One cooler.

[2:50:46] I was the founder of Warrior

[2:50:49] Foundation Freedom Station

[2:50:50] which is right here in

[2:50:50] COUNCILMAN Whitman's area.

[2:50:55] I have resigned last year to

[2:50:56] move on to a more focused

[2:50:57] nonprofit called Freedom Ranch

[2:51:02] Veterans Foundation.

[2:51:02] I know we're not here to talk

[2:51:03] about nonprofits.

[2:51:03] I want to tell you about a

[2:51:07] gentleman who is a businessman

[2:51:08] and he is a pillar of our

[2:51:09] community.

[2:51:09] His name is Scott Slager.

[2:51:14] Scott's from Chicago.

[2:51:15] I'm from Chicago.

[2:51:15] We're both various brands yada

[2:51:16] yada.

[2:51:16] Okay.

[2:51:19] I wanted to share with you that

[2:51:19] I met him in 2015.

[2:51:20] He called me up, did not know

[2:51:24] who I was and said I want to

[2:51:25] help the military in San Diego.

[2:51:26] >> I want to help the military

[2:51:31] in Camp Pendleton.

[2:51:31] >> That was quick.

[2:51:32] Thank you for your comments.

[2:51:37] Allow our warriors George

[2:51:38] Siegel to thank you for that

[2:51:38] concluding comment.

[2:51:41] George Sweet They fit in an

[2:51:41] outdoor area.

[2:51:47] Thank you.

[2:51:48] After George we will be able to

[2:51:49] be Kevin and Bob because you

[2:51:53] ski If you can please come

[2:51:54] forward to the front row to be

[2:52:23] ready if you damage association

[2:52:23] My job with the food and

[2:52:24] beverages and training.

[2:52:28] I've known Scott for about 15

[2:52:29] years.

[2:52:33] He asked me to come down

[2:52:34] introduce people every six

[2:52:40] months for security.

[2:52:40] We send people here to monitor

[2:52:45] the activities of the employees

[2:52:46] to make sure everybody is doing

[2:52:46] the job that they're supposed

[2:52:47] to do.

[2:52:51] The third item on the training

[2:52:52] list is Windows.

[2:52:58] When the ban is placed

[2:52:58] the windows are to be closed

[2:53:03] When there is no music that

[2:53:03] windows can be open.

[2:53:12] Scott is very strict with those

[2:53:12] .

[2:53:13] I think the people that are

[2:53:19] complaining that you guys don't

[2:53:20] know what they're talking about

[2:53:26] Thank you for that concluding

[2:53:26] comment.

[2:53:27] Blair Beekman.

[2:53:28] After Blair McManus started

[2:53:36] came.

[2:53:37] All right.

[2:53:37] Thank you Blair Beekman.

[2:53:38] I'm working neutral on this

[2:53:42] item.

[2:53:43] With the sport field issues in

[2:53:48] the Gilmore area a few months

[2:53:49] ago now I was hoping City

[2:53:49] Council could take a more

[2:53:54] active role in how

[2:53:55] the corporate entity and

[2:53:55] the community could work

[2:53:56] together on the item.

[2:54:01] I hope they can do that for

[2:54:01] this item.

[2:54:06] I want to try to be friendly to

[2:54:06] all sides And is it possible

[2:54:07] that if this project was to go

[2:54:12] through that there could be new

[2:54:12] adjustments, acoustic

[2:54:13] adjustments to really make sure

[2:54:18] and overall efforts to

[2:54:18] coordinate with the owners of

[2:54:19] the bar can be respectful to

[2:54:20] the community and there can be

[2:54:24] dialog continual dialog and you

[2:54:25] know what's working well and

[2:54:25] what can be improved changed

[2:54:30] upon.

[2:54:31] >> Can this turn into an active

[2:54:31] conversation of working towards

[2:54:32] things for everyone?

[2:54:35] Thank you.

[2:54:36] >> Thank you Bob Because this

[2:54:42] came item two or what's been

[2:54:43] called yet.

[2:54:48] I'll defer my comments to a

[2:54:48] while.

[2:54:48] Thank you.

[2:54:49] Thank you.

[2:54:51] I've started the five minute

[2:54:52] timer going to those

[2:54:52] participating remotely.

[2:54:53] We have four people in

[2:54:57] the queue as one minute each

[2:54:57] starting with the original

[2:54:58] after the original as Chris dug

[2:54:59] into the original.

[2:54:59] >> Please.

[2:54:59] I'm you.

[2:55:02] Oh ironic is it that this woman

[2:55:03] you know sharing the words

[2:55:09] lyrics of a song that is being

[2:55:10] played at that place is you

[2:55:10] know detrimental to children

[2:55:16] that you only hear about it in

[2:55:16] the chambers but you don't seem

[2:55:17] to be caring that I think it

[2:55:20] enough for are concerned about

[2:55:21] that It's interesting to see

[2:55:21] what you guys do with your

[2:55:26] exemptions and you know when

[2:55:27] some are used at once when

[2:55:28] you're planning that you want

[2:55:31] to do all this environmental

[2:55:32] stuff It's all of these three

[2:55:33] series of things that you guys

[2:55:33] brought forward during covid

[2:55:38] the regulations that policy

[2:55:38] regarding that the changed on a

[2:55:43] revolving door basis And so

[2:55:44] like when they were first

[2:55:44] implemented they had to be a

[2:55:45] certain way had to have certain

[2:55:48] awning and then all the so that

[2:55:49] was like all that changed And

[2:55:49] so the people had to go into

[2:55:50] pay to take that away.

[2:55:54] So it's just a bunch of

[2:55:55] nonsense that you guys do with

[2:55:56] this You kind to make people

[2:55:57] jump through hoops but I think

[2:55:57] you need to be listening to

[2:56:01] the people who have lived

[2:56:01] experience in that community of

[2:56:02] what they're experiencing right

[2:56:02] now.

[2:56:05] But obviously for the pass

[2:56:06] Thank you.

[2:56:07] Next is Chris Duggan if you can

[2:56:07] please on mute after that is

[2:56:12] done stop.

[2:56:13] Good afternoon.

[2:56:13] Chris Dugan representing

[2:56:14] California Restaurant

[2:56:17] Association To you come before

[2:56:18] you today to express your

[2:56:18] cynical support for

[2:56:19] the proposed greenery and to

[2:56:23] respectfully request

[2:56:24] the Council support staff

[2:56:25] recommendation ignited

[2:56:25] the appeal before you.

[2:56:26] First, it's hard to believe

[2:56:29] that nearly six years have

[2:56:30] passed since schools,

[2:56:30] businesses and governments

[2:56:31] closed their doors due to

[2:56:34] the global pandemic.

[2:56:35] However, immediately with

[2:56:36] the help of the City council we

[2:56:36] came together to figure out how

[2:56:41] we could stay open and that we

[2:56:41] spaces as places.

[2:56:42] So thank you and what

[2:56:42] the pandemic MAY be in

[2:56:43] the rearview.

[2:56:47] The road to restaurant recovery

[2:56:48] continues in the importance of

[2:56:48] expanded outdoor dining remains

[2:56:53] critical especially for a

[2:56:53] project like 17 Beach Club.

[2:56:54] So therefore I'm glad to see in

[2:56:59] San Diego we respectfully

[2:56:59] request the Council deny

[2:57:00] the appeal before you and allow

[2:57:04] this project to continue.

[2:57:05] Thank you.

[2:57:06] Next is John Stump if you can

[2:57:10] believe him you.

[2:57:11] >> Hello, John Stump.

[2:57:16] I wanted to observe this

[2:57:21] process in this process to novo

[2:57:22] because I'm considering filing

[2:57:27] an appeal myself on

[2:57:28] the environmental determination

[2:57:28] about using the parking lot in

[2:57:34] Los Pesquisas Reserve as a

[2:57:39] heliport.

[2:57:40] This is the staff has made it

[2:57:45] environmental determination

[2:57:46] that this project is exempt

[2:57:50] from cta under exemption 32.

[2:57:51] It's not whether you grant

[2:57:56] the appeal or not.

[2:58:03] It's not over because after

[2:58:03] this they still have to get

[2:58:04] permits and after this

[2:58:08] the community might decide to

[2:58:09] file an environmental suit.

[2:58:14] This has taken six months to

[2:58:14] get here.

[2:58:15] >> Think about that when you

[2:58:15] talk about you For that

[2:58:20] concluding comment.

[2:58:21] >> Next is 8700.

[2:58:21] If you complete them you after

[2:58:25] that will be Shiela 8700.

[2:58:28] Sorry I had to postpone 8700

[2:58:29] You you know.

[2:58:35] Thank you, Jason.

[2:58:36] You had a 53 letter.

[2:58:37] I agree with you.

[2:58:41] I beautiful words Yet I do want

[2:58:46] to say this from my perspective

[2:58:47] The exemption from sequel based

[2:58:51] on the staff finding stand it

[2:58:52] stands And I listened to you

[2:58:56] MR. Stump and while on and on

[2:58:57] it goes I want to speak out to

[2:59:03] demand that owns the bar

[2:59:04] because I want to tell him that

[2:59:08] I love him and I love the condo

[2:59:08] owners.

[2:59:09] I love both of you and this is

[2:59:13] a family And why the dialog

[2:59:14] didn't happen earlier and you

[2:59:15] somehow found a way to work

[2:59:15] this out.

[2:59:19] I do not know.

[2:59:20] I hope the bar did honor

[2:59:21] the mediation.

[2:59:21] It sounds like there was an

[2:59:25] attempt to do that and maybe it

[2:59:26] kind of got bumpy and they

[2:59:26] failed a little bit.

[2:59:30] I don't know.

[2:59:31] But the bar owner I want to

[2:59:32] tell you how sorry I am for

[2:59:36] your struggles during the covid

[2:59:37] crisis, concluded Shiela, if

[2:59:42] you can please and you.

[2:59:42] >> Hi.

[2:59:43] Good evening.

[2:59:43] My name is Shiela Hills and I'm

[2:59:44] the PRESIDENT At Discover

[2:59:48] Pacific Beach in favor of

[2:59:49] the staff's recommendation to

[2:59:49] deny the appeal.

[2:59:52] Discover pd represents

[2:59:52] the collective interests of

[2:59:53] the business community in our

[2:59:54] district.

[2:59:54] Our board is made up of local

[2:59:57] business owners who care deeply

[2:59:58] about the future of Pacific

[2:59:59] Beach and the success of

[2:59:59] the businesses that help make

[3:00:03] this neighborhood vibrant.

[3:00:04] Our board supports outdoor

[3:00:08] dining including 710 Beach Club

[3:00:09] Street three because it helps

[3:00:09] create the active welcoming

[3:00:14] environment that residents and

[3:00:14] visitors expect in a coastal

[3:00:15] destination like.

[3:00:18] Speaking personally I am and pb

[3:00:19] most evenings along with

[3:00:20] members of my staff and over

[3:00:20] the past four years we have

[3:00:21] never observed anything out of

[3:00:25] control or even remotely too

[3:00:25] loud associated with this

[3:00:26] location.

[3:00:26] I have served in community

[3:00:29] court for over a year now and

[3:00:30] I've never heard from anyone

[3:00:31] with a citation for open

[3:00:34] container from a 710 beach

[3:00:34] club.

[3:00:35] But do see this from other

[3:00:35] businesses.

[3:00:39] Parking has also been addressed

[3:00:40] .

[3:00:40] Additional parking has been

[3:00:41] added and 710 Beach Club has

[3:00:42] even worked to reserve parking

[3:00:47] for customers to move vehicles.

[3:00:47] History has concluded.

[3:00:48] I will also note that the fact

[3:00:49] that the timer has also

[3:00:51] concluded there eight speakers

[3:00:52] in the queue when that timer

[3:00:53] went off no additional speakers

[3:00:53] will be taken.

[3:00:57] Starting with Sonny or next

[3:00:58] because Sonny after that is go

[3:01:02] through hellos.

[3:01:03] >> Suddenly here executive

[3:01:04] director of Discover Pacific

[3:01:07] Beach where the Business

[3:01:07] Improvement District

[3:01:08] representing businesses in pb

[3:01:09] and our mission is to support

[3:01:13] our business community by

[3:01:13] helping create a vibrant

[3:01:14] welcoming environment for

[3:01:18] residents and visitors.

[3:01:18] Outdoor dining areas are an

[3:01:19] important part of that vision

[3:01:20] and they allow our small

[3:01:23] businesses to activate our

[3:01:24] public spaces and create

[3:01:25] the kind of lively experience

[3:01:30] that makes Pacific Beach

[3:01:30] special.

[3:01:31] Discover pd supports the Street

[3:01:34] strategy at 710 Beach Club and

[3:01:34] the broader concept of outdoor

[3:01:35] dining in our district.

[3:01:35] I will say it has been

[3:01:39] challenging for many of our

[3:01:40] businesses to go through this

[3:01:40] process and we appreciate them

[3:01:44] In turn for fighting the fight

[3:01:45] to get that street a report

[3:01:49] that in my experience as well

[3:01:50] frequently businesses here in

[3:01:53] Pacific Beach I never have been

[3:01:54] to 710 and seen it as loud as

[3:01:55] it has been described today.

[3:01:59] So that was definitely news to

[3:01:59] me.

[3:01:59] >> Thank you.

[3:02:04] Next is Guthrie Leonard, if you

[3:02:05] can please on mute.

[3:02:05] Hi.

[3:02:06] Can you hear me?

[3:02:06] Yes.

[3:02:06] Please proceed.

[3:02:09] Hi.

[3:02:10] I'm really here to speak on

[3:02:11] item 2a1 but I just wanted to

[3:02:12] come in here and say I totally

[3:02:15] understand.

[3:02:15] I hate noise interruptions.

[3:02:16] That's been a really big

[3:02:17] problem in places I've lived in

[3:02:20] the past But I really do think

[3:02:21] this is a textbook example of

[3:02:25] Scott being an antiquated law.

[3:02:26] It should not take $100,000 and

[3:02:31] a year to put up fences around

[3:02:32] some tables and a couple

[3:02:32] parking spots.

[3:02:36] It sounds like most of

[3:02:37] the people complaining about

[3:02:37] this project really just have a

[3:02:42] problem with the bar and not

[3:02:42] the street or in general.

[3:02:43] And so I really don't think

[3:02:46] there's any grounds to allow

[3:02:47] this appeal.

[3:02:47] >> Please tonight.

[3:02:48] Thank you.

[3:02:52] Next zoom if you complete a

[3:02:53] zoom user please on mute after

[3:02:54] that is live concert please

[3:02:57] proceed.

[3:02:58] Hi, this is Hector.

[3:02:58] I'm not commenting.

[3:03:01] I'm like a 72 year old guy with

[3:03:01] a big beach cruiser.

[3:03:06] I would consider myself an

[3:03:07] endangered species because when

[3:03:08] I go down there at night

[3:03:11] cruising on the boardwalk and

[3:03:12] there's drunk people it's kind

[3:03:16] of a little dangerous sometimes

[3:03:16] .

[3:03:17] But I would say the guys should

[3:03:18] put this area up on the roof

[3:03:21] and restore the parking spaces

[3:03:21] and the sidewalk is a normal

[3:03:26] sidewalk for the general

[3:03:26] public.

[3:03:32] Thank you, Leif.

[3:03:33] Oh, I have if you can please

[3:03:37] unmute.

[3:03:38] >> Hello, my name is Lofgren.

[3:03:39] I'm a resident of North Park

[3:03:44] and I got to frequently.

[3:03:45] All place I've been I've been

[3:03:45] in contact.

[3:03:46] It's a great venue.

[3:03:47] I'm speaking in support of

[3:03:47] the Appeal Keystone.

[3:03:51] Please let the owner have

[3:03:52] freedom under section.

[3:03:53] It's quite interesting to see a

[3:03:56] common pattern that we see all

[3:03:57] over the country and I've even

[3:03:57] seen in another in other

[3:03:58] countries where the residents

[3:04:02] are opposed to something that

[3:04:02] potentially created a noise

[3:04:03] therefore robbing the youth and

[3:04:04] people who want to go out of

[3:04:09] something like that be

[3:04:10] the lively neighborhood noise

[3:04:10] has to be respected.

[3:04:12] One of the things it's kind of

[3:04:12] funny that we're using

[3:04:12] squatters.

[3:04:13] For me this is a textbook

[3:04:16] example of Sitkowski was

[3:04:16] everybody wants to restore a

[3:04:17] parking lots therefore

[3:04:20] increasing the demand for cars

[3:04:21] which is a clear a clear

[3:04:22] environmental pollutant.

[3:04:26] So what do you think What to

[3:04:26] reduce noise is a clear

[3:04:27] violation of that We've seen

[3:04:27] that in in Berkeley.

[3:04:31] So what I want to say is yes

[3:04:32] please staff and follow

[3:04:33] the staff recommendation and

[3:04:36] appeal a rejected appeal.

[3:04:36] >> Thank you.

[3:04:37] Next is Tanya.

[3:04:40] If you can please unmute after

[3:04:44] that is 1335 Tanya.

[3:04:44] Hello.

[3:04:45] I'd like to specifically

[3:04:49] address the concern that

[3:04:50] the 710 Beach Club is impacting

[3:04:50] local parking.

[3:04:53] To suggest that five spaces

[3:04:54] significantly alters parking

[3:04:57] availability and p is

[3:04:58] respectfully a

[3:04:59] mischaracterization of the data

[3:05:02] when you consider the huge

[3:05:03] amount of visitors P.B.

[3:05:04] Welcomes daily five spots

[3:05:07] represents a nominal fraction

[3:05:08] of the total capacity between

[3:05:08] the ample parking within a

[3:05:09] short walk and the high volume

[3:05:13] of ride share usage in this

[3:05:14] corridor.

[3:05:14] These spaces are far more

[3:05:15] valuable to the city as a

[3:05:18] source of tax revenue and local

[3:05:18] business growth than as asphalt

[3:05:19] for five cars.

[3:05:22] That's all I have.

[3:05:23] Thank you.

[3:05:25] Next is 1335 if you can please

[3:05:31] unmute star six.

[3:05:32] After that will be Denise

[3:05:36] Bingham 1335 Academy for you.

[3:05:38] You do have to press star six

[3:05:43] in order to unmute we will have

[3:05:44] to move on to our next speaker

[3:05:48] If you can unmute going to

[3:05:48] Denise.

[3:05:52] After that our final speaker is

[3:05:53] Ted Dennis.

[3:05:54] >> Hello, my name is Denise Van

[3:05:57] and I have been a patron of 710

[3:05:58] Beach Club for over 15 years

[3:06:02] and I have seen what MR. Slager

[3:06:03] has done from the upgrades that

[3:06:07] he has made through

[3:06:08] the mediation to mitigate

[3:06:12] the sound noise that is coming

[3:06:13] from it as well as being at

[3:06:13] the bar when live music happens

[3:06:17] and all of the doors are shut

[3:06:22] per the mediation requirements

[3:06:22] .

[3:06:23] I also believe that having

[3:06:27] the street does give a more

[3:06:28] vibrant and lively situation

[3:06:32] for Pacific Beach which

[3:06:32] continues to allow for more

[3:06:36] revenue and tax taxing that can

[3:06:37] help the city rebuild whatever

[3:06:38] they need to do.

[3:06:41] So I am in support of

[3:06:46] the denial of the appeal.

[3:06:46] >> Thank you.

[3:06:47] Thank you.

[3:06:47] And our final speaker on Zoom

[3:06:51] is Ted Winkler, if you can

[3:06:52] please on mute.

[3:06:52] >> Good afternoon.

[3:06:53] Thanks for your time.

[3:06:56] Ford.

[3:06:57] I'd like to recommend a nice

[3:06:57] in.

[3:07:00] I believe that Scott and his

[3:07:01] business have covered

[3:07:05] everything that the simple

[3:07:05] application has stated and

[3:07:09] there should be no appeal with

[3:07:10] that.

[3:07:10] I do know that the people

[3:07:11] across the street.

[3:07:13] How about an issue with Scott

[3:07:14] for over 30 years?

[3:07:18] Scott tried to hypothetically

[3:07:18] appease every possible way for

[3:07:19] them that continue to be

[3:07:23] abandoned in existence.

[3:07:24] As you can see that long list

[3:07:28] of calls dated over 30 years

[3:07:29] that was presented I assume

[3:07:29] most of the coming from

[3:07:32] the same exact people as well

[3:07:33] in the presentation that was

[3:07:33] presented to the calendar.

[3:07:37] If you look at that closely,

[3:07:37] every one of those states had

[3:07:38] karaoke or trivia.

[3:07:42] Couldn't imagine That being

[3:07:43] said, the big problem for

[3:07:45] the neighborhood seven towns

[3:07:46] going to employ 40 people at a

[3:07:49] time during the time of

[3:07:50] the pandemic they almost closed

[3:07:54] down and I believe clinging on

[3:07:55] to this time a lot of your time

[3:07:56] has concluded.

[3:07:59] >> If you raise your hand

[3:08:00] the five minute timer had also

[3:08:01] concluded so no additional

[3:08:01] speakers will be taken through

[3:08:04] the virtual queue.

[3:08:05] We did had 14 speakers 14

[3:08:05] people registered there.

[3:08:10] Request to serve.

[3:08:10] Sorry let me say this a little

[3:08:11] bit.

[3:08:12] We had 14 people donating their

[3:08:14] time to Scott Sliwa that did

[3:08:14] not wish to speak.

[3:08:15] Noting that for the record and

[3:08:18] we have Rich Richards who was

[3:08:19] in that pile in error.

[3:08:20] So if Rich Richards can still

[3:08:23] please come up.

[3:08:24] Also note while you make your

[3:08:24] way up that we did receive

[3:08:25] three comments in favor and

[3:08:26] nine comments in opposition.

[3:08:29] We are a comment forum which

[3:08:29] have been distributed to

[3:08:30] the Council.

[3:08:30] Please proceed.

[3:08:30] Very good.

[3:08:33] Thank you to the Council for

[3:08:34] allowing me time to speak.

[3:08:35] I've been a homeowner and a

[3:08:38] resident of Pacific Beach since

[3:08:38] 1990.

[3:08:38] 36 years.

[3:08:41] I just want to give my support

[3:08:42] to 710.

[3:08:42] It is an important integral

[3:08:43] part of the Pacific Beach

[3:08:43] community.

[3:08:46] It's a restaurant social

[3:08:47] meeting spot sports venue And

[3:08:51] while the only night spots to

[3:08:51] provide live music which is now

[3:08:52] a dying art in San Diego.

[3:08:56] When I first moved there there

[3:08:56] was probably seven venues that

[3:09:01] had live music.

[3:09:02] It's got two places now or one.

[3:09:03] On a personal note, I was in

[3:09:05] Thailand when the war when I

[3:09:06] got hit by the tsunami.

[3:09:07] I was on one of the smallest

[3:09:07] islands.

[3:09:10] When I did come back Scott Flag

[3:09:11] without hesitation came up to

[3:09:14] me and asked how he could help

[3:09:14] .

[3:09:15] He decided to do a fundraiser

[3:09:16] and he donated his

[3:09:20] establishment as well as his

[3:09:20] staff and provided live music

[3:09:21] for that event.

[3:09:24] It was quite successful.

[3:09:25] Now he helps out with the beach

[3:09:26] cleanup and working with

[3:09:29] wounded veterans.

[3:09:29] Pb will always be a destination

[3:09:30] spot for San Diego residents

[3:09:34] for the U.S. And the world.

[3:09:35] >> It's good to have a multi

[3:09:35] venue event like this.

[3:09:36] Thank you for that concluding

[3:09:36] comment.

[3:09:39] That does conclude the public

[3:09:39] comment on this item.

[3:09:40] Council PRESIDENT Thank you.

[3:09:40] Thank you.

[3:09:44] Thank you City Clerk.

[3:09:44] Our apologies that we somehow

[3:09:48] missed your slip so I want to

[3:09:49] give you a chance.

[3:09:49] One of the things I like to do

[3:09:53] on these big items is give our

[3:09:53] city clerk a round of applause

[3:09:54] for managing all the speakers

[3:10:00] and the rollouts and and that

[3:10:05] goes to her team as well.

[3:10:06] So thank you for that.

[3:10:06] So I want to thank the staff,

[3:10:10] the appellant and the applicant

[3:10:10] .

[3:10:11] This is now in District one so

[3:10:14] I'll take the lead on this.

[3:10:15] Thank you to those who showed

[3:10:16] up in chambers and spoke or

[3:10:20] showed your support of things

[3:10:20] you liked in your position

[3:10:24] the things you didn't like and

[3:10:25] as well as those who

[3:10:29] participated virtually We heard

[3:10:30] a lot of things this afternoon

[3:10:30] so I wanted to make sure that

[3:10:33] we all understand what we're

[3:10:34] here to talk about and that is

[3:10:38] the action on the appeal of

[3:10:39] the environmental

[3:10:39] determination.

[3:10:43] It is not a consideration of

[3:10:44] the St3 application.

[3:10:44] It is not a conversation about

[3:10:48] the location of the off street

[3:10:49] parking replacement or

[3:10:52] the parking spots at the three

[3:10:52] we would take up.

[3:10:53] It is not about whether

[3:10:57] the property is operating in

[3:10:57] compliance with the mediation

[3:10:58] as some spoke to.

[3:11:02] It's not about the operation of

[3:11:02] the 710 Club itself.

[3:11:03] Nor is it about the character

[3:11:06] or the personalities of those

[3:11:07] involved.

[3:11:08] So a couple of questions before

[3:11:12] I jump in.

[3:11:12] This one's for staff and I

[3:11:13] think you've been given a heads

[3:11:17] up to start the mine and make

[3:11:18] sure for myself and for my

[3:11:21] colleagues here on Council

[3:11:21] the applicant did submit a

[3:11:22] pretty lengthy document

[3:11:26] detailing their appeal.

[3:11:27] The typically receives from

[3:11:28] staff an explanation or

[3:11:31] rebuttal to each issue raised

[3:11:32] by the appellant.

[3:11:32] And yet the staff report and

[3:11:33] the slide deck appear to be

[3:11:35] silent.

[3:11:40] How should we take that?

[3:11:41] >> So what what the staff

[3:11:45] report was written on was

[3:11:46] the appeal that was filed which

[3:11:49] checked all of the boxes on

[3:11:50] the appeal form but provided no

[3:11:51] additional information.

[3:11:51] The balance of the information

[3:11:54] was provided very close to

[3:11:55] the hearing and staff did not

[3:11:56] receive it in time to respond

[3:11:59] in kind.

[3:11:59] Okay.

[3:12:00] I say that for a couple of

[3:12:04] reasons One to make sure it

[3:12:04] wasn't a reflection of

[3:12:05] the material You simply did not

[3:12:06] occur to it.

[3:12:08] But also as a message to

[3:12:09] anybody else who chooses to

[3:12:10] appeal that you need to submit

[3:12:14] your documentation when you

[3:12:14] file the appeal or to make sure

[3:12:15] that staff gets it and plenty

[3:12:19] of time for you to respond to.

[3:12:19] So thank you for clarifying

[3:12:23] that And I can I can understand

[3:12:24] that because this is a notice

[3:12:24] hearing.

[3:12:25] You have a time limit and you

[3:12:28] have to do your work.

[3:12:28] So as to the environmental

[3:12:33] determination in addition to

[3:12:33] the testimony today, I did

[3:12:34] review the material that was

[3:12:37] attached to the docket as well

[3:12:38] as the comments that were

[3:12:39] submitted online that the city

[3:12:42] clerk relied on referred to

[3:12:46] staff relies on categorical

[3:12:47] exemptions related to

[3:12:48] the infill development.

[3:12:48] So that's where

[3:12:51] the conversation needs to focus

[3:12:51] on.

[3:12:52] As was mentioned, Section d of

[3:12:53] the categorical exemptions

[3:12:57] includes approval.

[3:12:57] The project would not result in

[3:12:58] any significant effects

[3:12:59] relating to traffic noise, air

[3:13:02] quality or water quality.

[3:13:03] And where of course we're not

[3:13:03] talking about the approval of

[3:13:06] the project but the evidence to

[3:13:07] support whether we have enough

[3:13:07] information in

[3:13:11] the environmental determination

[3:13:12] excuse me staff included

[3:13:12] information that compliance

[3:13:16] with San Diego Mississippi Code

[3:13:17] 59.50401 would ensure noise

[3:13:21] impacts would be less than

[3:13:22] significant And yet the city's

[3:13:22] own track record is at this

[3:13:25] property has not necessarily

[3:13:26] complied despite numerous

[3:13:30] enforcement efforts by blue of

[3:13:31] the appellant including

[3:13:31] information about dozens of

[3:13:35] noise complaints Complaints

[3:13:38] does not mean violation but it

[3:13:44] does show a pattern.

[3:13:45] So staff also relies on secret

[3:13:47] guidelines Section 15 300 point

[3:13:48] to be saying the projects

[3:13:49] inspected have no significant

[3:13:53] cumulative packet but that

[3:13:54] appears to treat the Street

[3:13:55] three in my opinion as a

[3:13:57] standalone project separate and

[3:13:58] distinct from the restaurant.

[3:13:58] The theory is an expansion of

[3:14:02] the restaurant bar and the two

[3:14:03] cannot be separated as

[3:14:07] suggested in the environmental

[3:14:07] determination.

[3:14:08] We must examine the cumulative

[3:14:09] impact of at least the street

[3:14:12] around the restaurant with

[3:14:12] regards to especially noise.

[3:14:13] I recognize that the only

[3:14:16] action before us is

[3:14:17] the environmental

[3:14:17] determination.

[3:14:18] However, the secret exemption

[3:14:21] relies on this council to find

[3:14:22] the project would not have

[3:14:23] significant impacts.

[3:14:26] There is significant impact

[3:14:26] evidence in the record and

[3:14:31] whether it's the owner or

[3:14:31] the customers of the operations

[3:14:32] about compliance with

[3:14:35] the municipal code.

[3:14:36] This evidence to me constitutes

[3:14:40] unusual circumstances.

[3:14:40] One of the criteria in

[3:14:45] considering the appeal as many

[3:14:46] people smoke bars and

[3:14:46] restaurants in the area open

[3:14:47] light, serve alcohol and play

[3:14:50] music with fewer complaints.

[3:14:51] And there is evidence that an

[3:14:52] outdoor cherry tree can

[3:14:52] exacerbate what is already

[3:14:55] happening with the adjoining

[3:14:56] restaurant and bar.

[3:14:56] Whether that's the operation or

[3:15:00] the customer's nightlife is a

[3:15:01] part of Pacific Beach, let's

[3:15:01] all recognize that.

[3:15:05] But the frequency of violations

[3:15:06] over a consistent period of

[3:15:06] time demonstrates the history

[3:15:09] that constitutes of unusual

[3:15:09] circumstances.

[3:15:10] The termination also used

[3:15:14] the small project exemption and

[3:15:15] ignore the cumulative effects

[3:15:16] of the street which combined

[3:15:19] with the restaurant bar which

[3:15:19] really kind of surprised me.

[3:15:20] This wasn't just a small

[3:15:24] project it's a definitive

[3:15:25] expansion of an existing one.

[3:15:29] Secret guideline Status

[3:15:29] Significant effect is a

[3:15:30] substantial potentially

[3:15:31] substantial and first change in

[3:15:34] any of the physical conditions

[3:15:34] within the area affected by

[3:15:35] the project including what

[3:15:38] ambient noise?

[3:15:39] While I am loath to require

[3:15:40] environmental analysis for

[3:15:43] converting converting a tobacco

[3:15:44] to a string theory, there is

[3:15:44] substantial evidence in

[3:15:45] the record that several

[3:15:48] exemptions listed in

[3:15:49] the determination in my opinion

[3:15:49] do not apply.

[3:15:53] I cannot make the findings in

[3:15:54] support of the environmental

[3:15:54] determination.

[3:15:55] So with that I will move to

[3:15:58] grant the appeal and set aside

[3:15:58] the environmental determination

[3:16:02] in accordance with section 112.

[3:16:03] 0520f and leave it to staff as

[3:16:06] to the appropriate level of

[3:16:07] sequence analysis to address

[3:16:08] the issues raised in this

[3:16:11] afternoon's hearing.

[3:16:12] And as a reminder to everyone

[3:16:13] here this is not a decision on

[3:16:16] the permit application and just

[3:16:17] a narrow one on

[3:16:17] the environmental

[3:16:18] determination.

[3:16:21] So I have made a motion and

[3:16:22] we'll go next to Councilmember

[3:16:23] Campbell who used to have

[3:16:26] Pacific Beach and her district.

[3:16:27] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.

[3:16:33] I'm happy to second your motion

[3:16:33] .

[3:16:34] >> Okay.

[3:16:38] So a motion by myself to grant

[3:16:39] the appeal and set aside

[3:16:39] the environmental terminations

[3:16:40] cited by Councilmember

[3:16:40] Campbell.

[3:16:44] I don't see anybody else on

[3:16:44] the lights.

[3:16:45] Councilmember Bong Wolpert.

[3:16:45] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT

[3:16:48] And thank you to everyone for

[3:16:48] coming in.

[3:16:49] So this is very loud today.

[3:16:52] I know this is your council

[3:16:53] district and so of course you

[3:16:54] have expertise And I just had a

[3:16:57] question about the last time

[3:16:58] you made this was what we're

[3:17:00] deciding today is only

[3:17:01] the second appeal not about

[3:17:05] the permit itself.

[3:17:06] That is correct.

[3:17:10] So if we were to deny

[3:17:11] the appeal today, would there

[3:17:11] still be a permitting process

[3:17:12] the business owner would have

[3:17:15] to go through to continue

[3:17:16] operating?

[3:17:16] Sorry, don't answer.

[3:17:16] Okay.

[3:17:20] I believe the project plus

[3:17:21] the new determination would

[3:17:21] come forward to city council

[3:17:23] City council would take

[3:17:28] jurisdiction.

[3:17:29] So we would hear this again.

[3:17:33] You would hear the project plus

[3:17:34] the new determination.

[3:17:35] What's the new determination?

[3:17:36] I mean I'm so I'm sorry the new

[3:17:38] seek with determination.

[3:17:39] >> MAY I clarify?

[3:17:42] You mean if the council were to

[3:17:43] deny the appeal today your

[3:17:43] original question?

[3:17:43] Okay.

[3:17:47] So the project

[3:17:48] the environmental determination

[3:17:52] would be final but the project

[3:17:53] would still be would go before

[3:17:56] the hearing officer for a

[3:17:57] process three decision that

[3:17:58] could be appealable to

[3:17:58] the Planning Commission if

[3:18:01] appealed and the city's final

[3:18:02] determination could also be

[3:18:06] appealable to the coastal

[3:18:06] Commission because this is in

[3:18:07] the Coastal Commission's

[3:18:08] appealable jurisdiction.

[3:18:13] Okay.

[3:18:14] So then I know the Coastal

[3:18:18] Commission had required any st3

[3:18:19] which took away parking spaces

[3:18:19] to have an offset of parking

[3:18:20] spaces.

[3:18:24] So are there new parking spaces

[3:18:24] being provided here?

[3:18:25] >> Yes.

[3:18:28] Applicant has located five off

[3:18:29] street parking spaces and an

[3:18:33] adjacent paid parking lot in

[3:18:34] the next block 8845 Garnet, i

[3:18:37] believe is the address.

[3:18:42] I can't I don't recall whether

[3:18:43] the Coastal Commission would

[3:18:44] allow for paid parking as an

[3:18:44] offset or these were paid

[3:18:47] parking But anyway weren't

[3:18:48] they?

[3:18:48] I'm sorry weren't these

[3:18:49] the street parking They were

[3:18:52] parking meters so I assume they

[3:18:52] were paid parking anyway you

[3:18:56] know I mean.

[3:18:57] Okay.

[3:18:57] Yeah I remember the Coastal

[3:19:01] Commission coming down on us

[3:19:01] for this issue.

[3:19:02] I just they come down on us a

[3:19:06] lot so I don't recall MR. MR.

[3:19:07] Slagle able to maybe able to

[3:19:08] speak to this further I believe

[3:19:11] he's paid for those spaces so

[3:19:11] they are paid People can park

[3:19:12] in them.

[3:19:12] Understood.

[3:19:15] Okay Thank you.

[3:19:16] I guess my my overall question

[3:19:17] I understand the very narrow

[3:19:20] grounds on which we have to

[3:19:25] evaluate a secure appeal at

[3:19:26] the same time, I do know that

[3:19:26] there's a lot of community

[3:19:30] concern about the conduct in

[3:19:31] the noise and everything going

[3:19:31] on.

[3:19:34] So can that be even if that

[3:19:35] cannot be addressed through a

[3:19:36] sequel appeal, could that be

[3:19:36] addressed through the permit

[3:19:39] process by which the community

[3:19:40] could be heard and the owner

[3:19:41] could make any kind of

[3:19:44] modifications about the noise

[3:19:44] and about the violations and

[3:19:48] all of that?

[3:19:49] >> It it depends on what you

[3:19:54] mean by address In order to be

[3:19:55] able to approve a street or re

[3:19:58] here we would need to make sure

[3:19:59] that the street area operated

[3:19:59] according to the regulations

[3:20:03] for street trees um they don't

[3:20:08] specifically address noise but

[3:20:08] they do specifically address a

[3:20:13] lot of other things like hours

[3:20:13] of operation etc. So it really

[3:20:14] depends on what you're

[3:20:20] concerned with.

[3:20:20] Okay.

[3:20:24] I just I want to make sure that

[3:20:25] folks who are facing challenges

[3:20:26] from an adjacent business are

[3:20:29] able to get their a concerns

[3:20:30] addressed even though we MAY

[3:20:31] not be able to do that in

[3:20:31] the narrow grounds of a sequel

[3:20:32] appeal.

[3:20:34] So I will just leave that

[3:20:35] there.

[3:20:35] I understand that we're very

[3:20:39] limited right now on what we

[3:20:40] can review but I'm hopeful that

[3:20:40] there would be a process by

[3:20:41] which this could be done.

[3:20:44] So thank you.

[3:20:45] Thank you Councilmember

[3:20:46] Belmopan And to your point I

[3:20:48] just want emphasize a number of

[3:20:49] things that the appellant

[3:20:49] brought up are all descriptions

[3:20:53] of the project no longer in

[3:20:53] place they've made

[3:20:54] the application has been

[3:20:58] updated and I wanted to be very

[3:20:59] careful not to get distracted

[3:21:03] by how the application as you

[3:21:04] said we're constrained in a

[3:21:07] very narrow conversation about

[3:21:12] the environmental determination

[3:21:12] .

[3:21:13] And to your other point if I

[3:21:13] might.

[3:21:16] There was a decision by city

[3:21:17] council many years ago that

[3:21:18] projects were getting caught in

[3:21:21] a loop that the environmental

[3:21:21] was appealed to council.

[3:21:26] Council would send it back.

[3:21:26] The environmental would be

[3:21:27] updated.

[3:21:28] Only the environment would come

[3:21:28] up.

[3:21:30] They'd send it back again.

[3:21:31] So they made a decision that

[3:21:32] once the environmental thing

[3:21:35] gets appealed then council

[3:21:36] takes full responsibility for

[3:21:36] the project so you're not

[3:21:40] bouncing around.

[3:21:41] So to the degree that might be

[3:21:46] helpful and so so so there is a

[3:21:46] path for the applicant maybe

[3:21:50] not one they're going to like

[3:21:50] but there is a path.

[3:21:51] So I'll be candid about that.

[3:21:55] Councilmember Hemphill Thank

[3:21:55] you.

[3:21:56] >> Council PRESIDENT Thank you

[3:21:56] for the presentation staff I

[3:21:58] appreciate all the members of

[3:21:59] the public for their

[3:21:59] participation today.

[3:22:00] Obviously a small business

[3:22:03] trying to thrive and San Diego

[3:22:04] is going through a lot to do

[3:22:08] that and succeed and neighbors

[3:22:08] have concerns about impacts

[3:22:09] that happen in

[3:22:09] the neighborhood.

[3:22:13] I appreciate both of you for

[3:22:13] putting that forward.

[3:22:14] My question for staff So in

[3:22:17] essence the determination was

[3:22:22] to grant the application of

[3:22:26] restaurant and we have an

[3:22:31] appeal here.

[3:22:32] Did I not hear you correctly

[3:22:33] that the appellants who want to

[3:22:36] stop 710 from moving forward

[3:22:41] didn't submit what they needed

[3:22:42] to submit in a timely fashion?

[3:22:45] I thought I understood you

[3:22:46] saying that in response to

[3:22:47] the council PRESIDENT's

[3:22:47] question.

[3:22:49] That's correct.

[3:22:49] Okay.

[3:22:54] So is there not a municipal

[3:22:59] code or council policy that

[3:23:00] states that if you don't turn

[3:23:04] in as valid as some of their

[3:23:05] concerns and I hear them loud

[3:23:05] and clear are if they don't

[3:23:08] turn in their documentation

[3:23:09] appropriately, if they don't

[3:23:10] allow staff to have the ability

[3:23:13] to rebut it, is there not

[3:23:14] something in place in our code

[3:23:15] that says if you fail to turn

[3:23:18] this in it kind of moves

[3:23:18] forward?

[3:23:19] I know the council makes

[3:23:20] the ultimate final decision

[3:23:23] process five at this point but

[3:23:24] what is our policy or municipal

[3:23:28] code say about failing to

[3:23:33] protect your appeal rights?

[3:23:39] Our policy is if the appeal fee

[3:23:40] is paid and the form is filled

[3:23:43] out then the appeal is valid.

[3:23:44] The code requires an appeal to

[3:23:47] be valid but that that is

[3:23:48] the way that we currently

[3:23:48] interpret it.

[3:23:54] Okay.

[3:24:07] I feel like excuse me I see

[3:24:21] staff conversing occupied.

[3:24:22] I'm just wondering if

[3:24:27] the comments if there was

[3:24:27] something that needed to be

[3:24:28] said on the record I'm not

[3:24:29] we're not aware of anything in

[3:24:31] the code that says that they

[3:24:32] have to submit the paperwork at

[3:24:32] the time that they submit their

[3:24:33] application.

[3:24:33] Okay.

[3:24:38] All right.

[3:24:47] I I'm wondering if the well, as

[3:24:48] you heard what they were saying

[3:24:52] and you saw the evidence in

[3:24:53] front of you and the points

[3:24:54] that the appellant's were

[3:24:57] putting forward, is there

[3:24:58] anything you would like to add

[3:25:02] so that I can make my decision

[3:25:03] as to whether their points were

[3:25:04] valid or invalid Because it

[3:25:08] seems I mean I know that's hard

[3:25:08] work because you have to go

[3:25:09] through a lot of hoops with

[3:25:12] the city attorney's office with

[3:25:12] the departments to figure out

[3:25:13] what's going on it I feel like

[3:25:17] the place I've been put in is

[3:25:17] between a rock and a hard place

[3:25:21] where we have a valid appeal

[3:25:22] because they filed a piece of

[3:25:23] paper correctly but didn't give

[3:25:23] staff the ability to discern

[3:25:26] what was correct versus

[3:25:26] incorrect.

[3:25:27] And we have an applicant who

[3:25:28] has really worked hard to

[3:25:31] answer a million questions that

[3:25:32] undeniably the city puts him in

[3:25:35] place for small businesses.

[3:25:40] So do you have any response to

[3:25:44] the appellants that I can hear

[3:25:45] and making my determination

[3:25:49] What I can say is that

[3:25:50] the baseline conditions are

[3:25:54] the restaurant that is existing

[3:25:55] and including the noise that is

[3:25:55] already in the restaurant And

[3:25:59] we analyzed the what if whether

[3:26:00] the whether the secretary would

[3:26:04] cause an increase in noise and

[3:26:05] we determined that that would

[3:26:05] not be the case.

[3:26:08] Okay.

[3:26:09] So just last question for

[3:26:10] the city attorney.

[3:26:13] So there's nothing that's a

[3:26:14] waiver of your appeal rights in

[3:26:18] this process for failing to

[3:26:22] supply evidence or reasoning

[3:26:22] with a piece of paper where you

[3:26:27] check boxes.

[3:26:28] >> The code does not require

[3:26:28] submission of arguments at

[3:26:31] the time you submit your form.

[3:26:31] >> I understand.

[3:26:36] Okay.

[3:26:37] To add to that Councilmember

[3:26:37] Yes please.

[3:26:40] There is some case law that

[3:26:41] discusses this but generally

[3:26:46] the applicant can make

[3:26:46] additional arguments the day of

[3:26:47] the hearing so that is not

[3:26:50] legally prohibited or shortly

[3:26:51] before the hearing.

[3:26:51] However, there's always an

[3:26:55] option for the Council to

[3:26:56] continue the item to allow

[3:26:58] staff more time to evaluate

[3:27:08] what's been recently brought up

[3:27:08] .

[3:27:09] Thank you for that answer.

[3:27:14] I feel like well my my analysis

[3:27:15] of the situation is that it's

[3:27:19] it's I'm in a position where I

[3:27:20] can't make a decision without

[3:27:24] the staff's ability to respond

[3:27:24] to what in the presentation

[3:27:28] sounded like valid arguments.

[3:27:29] But on top of that to your

[3:27:33] point, MISS Fitzgerald,

[3:27:33] the without that information

[3:27:34] the applicant also can't defend

[3:27:37] themselves from those

[3:27:38] allegations as well.

[3:27:39] So we're in a place where it

[3:27:44] seems like the process has

[3:27:45] fallen apart a bit or at least

[3:27:46] or at least the rules we have

[3:27:46] in place don't allow us to

[3:27:49] discern very well.

[3:27:50] I won't belabor it any further.

[3:27:51] I think from a policy point of

[3:27:54] view my I think that to be able

[3:27:55] to give both sides the fairness

[3:27:58] of it there should be a

[3:27:59] continuance.

[3:27:59] But since that's not the motion

[3:28:00] on the floor I'll and my

[3:28:03] comments and I appreciate

[3:28:04] the council PRESIDENT For his

[3:28:07] questions and discernment thank

[3:28:13] you.

[3:28:13] All right.

[3:28:14] I don't see anybody else in

[3:28:14] lights but I will say member

[3:28:17] can't be if you want to work

[3:28:17] together to raise the bar.

[3:28:18] I am old enough to remember a

[3:28:22] time when appeals were actually

[3:28:22] judged whether they in fact

[3:28:23] were sufficient.

[3:28:26] Maybe it was the fact that we

[3:28:27] raised the fee to a thousand

[3:28:27] bucks That MAY have changed our

[3:28:31] thinking but I think there is

[3:28:31] some validity going forward to

[3:28:35] pursue that.

[3:28:36] So so I appreciate your line of

[3:28:40] questioning there.

[3:28:41] >> Council Member Foster it

[3:28:45] just a quick question and I

[3:28:46] guess I'm unclear on violations

[3:28:50] versus complaints I guess are

[3:28:54] there were there no were there

[3:28:59] no violations on record or.

[3:29:00] Well, I'm not understanding

[3:29:01] exactly where we stand with

[3:29:07] that.

[3:29:07] So you're referring to noise

[3:29:08] complaints versus other types

[3:29:11] of violations that perhaps So

[3:29:12] the what we are discussing in

[3:29:16] I'm assuming the issue is

[3:29:21] the noise is kind of as we're

[3:29:21] looking at the environmental

[3:29:22] part of this at least that's

[3:29:22] what I gathered from

[3:29:26] the conversation and I'm trying

[3:29:31] to understand And I think if

[3:29:31] the owner's here when he showed

[3:29:35] his presentation there was a

[3:29:36] note of a violation that said

[3:29:40] 1000 I think I said one k if I

[3:29:40] remember correctly.

[3:29:43] So I guess my question would be

[3:29:44] do we have a record of

[3:29:48] violations?

[3:29:49] >> So I'm sorry just just

[3:29:54] actual violations.

[3:29:55] Project is submitted in part in

[3:29:59] response to the st3 being out

[3:30:00] there in need of a permit.

[3:30:04] They were cited for having

[3:30:08] unpermitted st3 Okay And so

[3:30:09] that was that violation was

[3:30:09] cited by development services

[3:30:13] noise complaints go to

[3:30:14] the police department so I

[3:30:14] wouldn't have in-depth

[3:30:18] information on that at this

[3:30:18] time.

[3:30:18] >> Okay.

[3:30:19] So as it went through this

[3:30:23] process, at no point in time

[3:30:23] did you guys say Hey, Senegal

[3:30:27] pd Do we have any any valid

[3:30:27] findings regarding noise

[3:30:31] complaints?

[3:30:32] I don't believe we would

[3:30:36] consider that a secret issue.

[3:30:37] Okay.

[3:30:42] Courtney That wouldn't be an

[3:30:42] issue now Okay.

[3:30:43] >> We'll do at the end of

[3:30:44] the day as we look at

[3:30:46] the process, this is going to

[3:30:47] come back before council with I

[3:30:50] guess a if I understand this a

[3:30:51] revised sequel determination

[3:30:52] and then council makes a final

[3:30:55] decision Is regards to permit

[3:30:56] status I guess I'll say Is that

[3:31:01] correct If you if the council

[3:31:05] upholds the appeal, fine.

[3:31:05] Yes.

[3:31:06] Okay.

[3:31:06] All right.

[3:31:10] Thank you.

[3:31:11] >> Council member Campo again

[3:31:11] sorry.

[3:31:12] Just briefly So if the motion

[3:31:14] passes come back to us with a

[3:31:18] different resolution that would

[3:31:19] find that it does it does

[3:31:20] qualify under Secord that it is

[3:31:24] impacted or rather let me state

[3:31:28] it correctly saying that

[3:31:33] the project is not exempt from

[3:31:33] a sequel.

[3:31:34] Correct?

[3:31:34] That's what the new resolution

[3:31:38] would say because your

[3:31:38] determination from staff was

[3:31:43] that environmental

[3:31:43] determination is that

[3:31:44] the project is exempt from

[3:31:44] sequel.

[3:31:45] So you're going to come back to

[3:31:48] us with one saying it's not

[3:31:48] exempt from sequel, not

[3:31:52] necessarily.

[3:31:52] It just depends on

[3:31:53] the environmental analysis that

[3:31:53] is done.

[3:31:56] We could come back with another

[3:31:56] exemption.

[3:31:57] Understood.

[3:32:01] Okay.

[3:32:06] Understanding that this isn't

[3:32:11] the understanding that I I've

[3:32:11] total respect for what

[3:32:12] the council presidents put

[3:32:13] before us as a motion.

[3:32:16] I'm finding that the complete

[3:32:16] failure to provide evidence

[3:32:21] beforehand is what is really

[3:32:21] sticking in my mind as a

[3:32:22] procedural issue.

[3:32:26] I know that that's not a

[3:32:26] requirement we have but just as

[3:32:30] a pure matter of fairness, I

[3:32:30] sympathize with what

[3:32:31] the community is saying in

[3:32:32] terms of their concerns but I

[3:32:32] feel like we have to hold

[3:32:35] applicants and appellants to

[3:32:36] turning in the evidence

[3:32:40] appropriately for discernment.

[3:32:41] So I can't bring myself to vote

[3:32:42] in favor of the motion at this

[3:32:45] point just from a pure

[3:32:45] philosophical point of view.

[3:32:46] I don't disagree with where

[3:32:47] the council PRESIDENT Is coming

[3:32:50] from and I respect his motion

[3:32:50] but I'm going to have to vote

[3:32:51] no.

[3:32:51] All right.

[3:32:52] I can appreciate that and I

[3:32:55] appreciate your candor not

[3:32:55] seeing anybody else in

[3:32:56] the lights.

[3:33:01] We have a motion by myself and

[3:33:06] a second by council member

[3:33:07] Campbell up on the lights to

[3:33:07] grant the appeal and set aside

[3:33:07] the environmental

[3:33:07] determination.

[3:33:07] Clerk Please call the vote I'm

[3:33:07] sorry The voting system Please

[3:33:13] cast your vote.

[3:33:14] I'm sorry.

[3:33:16] Can you give me your vote for

[3:33:21] the record please?

[3:33:27] That passes 8 to 1 with Council

[3:33:27] member Campion voting no Thank

[3:33:31] you Council PRESIDENT All right

[3:33:31] .

[3:33:31] Thank you again.

[3:33:32] Thank you everybody that showed

[3:33:32] up.

[3:33:33] Thank you to staff for the good

[3:33:36] work that you did.

[3:33:40] So with that please introduce

[3:33:41] item 201 Item 2a1 is to

[3:33:41] determine and declare posted

[3:33:45] speed limits throughout

[3:33:46] the City of San Diego Vision

[3:33:46] zero Update and Findings of

[3:33:50] Speed a management Plan If

[3:33:50] you'd like to speak on this

[3:33:51] item now is the time to submit

[3:33:54] your speakers up to the front

[3:33:55] of the room in the clear box or

[3:33:56] if you are participating

[3:33:59] remotely please be sure to

[3:34:00] raise your hand by pressing

[3:34:00] Star nine or the raise your

[3:34:01] hand icon.

[3:34:04] Thank you Counsel PRESIDENT All

[3:34:04] right.

[3:34:10] Thank you So staff you don't

[3:34:10] need to rush up too fast.

[3:34:11] We're going to let the chambers

[3:34:34] kind of empty out.

[3:34:58] Yeah, yeah.

[3:35:17] So you're out that if you

[3:35:18] wouldn't mind taking your

[3:35:22] conversation into the foyer or

[3:35:22] down the elevator into

[3:35:26] the lobby.

[3:35:30] All right, Staff item 201

[3:35:30] please introduce yourselves for

[3:35:31] the record and let us know how

[3:35:34] much time you need.

[3:35:35] Good afternoon.

[3:35:40] Council PRESIDENT Like other

[3:35:40] council members, my name is

[3:35:41] Alex Waldo.

[3:35:44] I'm the interim deputy director

[3:35:45] with the Transportation

[3:35:45] Department.

[3:35:46] i am joined by my colleague Eva

[3:35:49] Hauser, program manager with

[3:35:50] the Transportation Department

[3:35:54] as well and Naomi Chavez,

[3:35:54] interim director tdi.

[3:35:57] And we will need 15 minutes.

[3:36:01] >> All right, when you're ready

[3:36:06] By way of establishing a

[3:36:07] background, the city adopted a

[3:36:11] Vision Zero policy back in 2015

[3:36:11] .

[3:36:12] The goal of Vision Zero is to

[3:36:12] eliminate severe injuries and

[3:36:16] fatalities from traffic related

[3:36:17] crashes within the city.

[3:36:21] Vision Zero is a citywide

[3:36:21] effort with contributions from

[3:36:22] many different departments as

[3:36:25] listed on the photo here

[3:36:26] including police planning,

[3:36:30] communications development

[3:36:30] services, engineering and

[3:36:31] capital projects and

[3:36:35] Transportation Department.

[3:36:36] >> The city has tracked a

[3:36:37] number of severe injuries and

[3:36:40] fatalities each year since

[3:36:41] the adoption of Vision Zero.

[3:36:45] There's clearly still a lot

[3:36:45] more work to do.

[3:36:46] But this data here shows if you

[3:36:49] add a trend line, the total

[3:36:50] fatal and severe injury crashes

[3:36:52] have decreased in San Diego

[3:36:53] since 2018.

[3:36:53] This progress stands in

[3:36:58] contrast to the national trends

[3:36:58] which have seen increases in

[3:36:59] fatalities and injuries

[3:36:59] especially in the years

[3:37:06] following the covid 19 pandemic

[3:37:06] .

[3:37:11] >> All crashes matter but this

[3:37:11] data here shows that people

[3:37:12] walking are overrepresented in

[3:37:16] serious crashes and that's

[3:37:17] because they're the most

[3:37:17] vulnerable when interacting

[3:37:20] with vehicle traffic.

[3:37:25] The city's Vision Zero

[3:37:26] Strategic Plan is based on

[3:37:27] the following strategies that's

[3:37:30] listed here and this is what

[3:37:31] guides our work Every day we'll

[3:37:35] be reviewing these elements in

[3:37:35] more detail in the next few

[3:37:39] slides.

[3:37:43] The city's Vision Zero

[3:37:43] engineering efforts are at work

[3:37:44] every single day.

[3:37:48] We are responding to citizen

[3:37:49] requests which total nearly

[3:37:53] 7000 requests annually along

[3:37:54] with evaluating crash history

[3:37:57] at high incident locations we

[3:37:58] review crashes that result in

[3:37:59] fatalities.

[3:38:03] We conduct proactive systemwide

[3:38:03] safety analysis.

[3:38:07] We implement over 2000 traffic

[3:38:07] safety improvements annually

[3:38:08] and we also develop additional

[3:38:11] plans including the upcoming

[3:38:16] speed management plan.

[3:38:17] >> This slide talks to

[3:38:21] the volume of work that happens

[3:38:21] daily in our department.

[3:38:22] Despite our best efforts,

[3:38:25] the Department does not have

[3:38:26] the resources necessary to

[3:38:30] respond to all of the needs in

[3:38:31] the city.

[3:38:34] There is currently a need of

[3:38:35] $212 million annually to build

[3:38:36] the Vision Zero cap projects.

[3:38:39] We currently have a backlog of

[3:38:40] over 2300 traffic service

[3:38:41] requests for engineering

[3:38:45] evaluations and a backlog of

[3:38:45] nearly 2000 traffic improvement

[3:38:48] installations.

[3:38:49] A lot of what I've discussed so

[3:38:54] far has been related to

[3:38:54] engineering but there are two

[3:38:55] other components that are

[3:38:59] critical to help us meet our

[3:39:00] vision zero goals and that is

[3:39:04] education and enforcement.

[3:39:04] This slide illustrates just

[3:39:05] briefly the role of enforcement

[3:39:09] in dealing with speeds on our

[3:39:09] roads.

[3:39:10] We partner with police

[3:39:13] department and communications

[3:39:14] department to perform traffic

[3:39:14] enforcement in targeted areas

[3:39:16] and educate the community on

[3:39:21] roadway safety, education,

[3:39:22] community and creating a

[3:39:26] culture of safety.

[3:39:27] Make up the remaining portions

[3:39:28] of the strategic plan focusing

[3:39:31] on how people experience

[3:39:32] the city's efforts, apply them

[3:39:33] into their daily lives and know

[3:39:33] where to go.

[3:39:36] For more information.

[3:39:37] And again, the city's

[3:39:38] communications department works

[3:39:38] collaboratively with

[3:39:42] transportation, engineering and

[3:39:42] police to provide these updates

[3:39:43] and services to residents and

[3:39:47] the community.

[3:39:51] The city's vision Zero

[3:39:52] Strategic Plan uses many

[3:39:52] elements to address street

[3:39:53] safety.

[3:39:56] What I'll be focusing on now is

[3:39:57] our ability to make our changes

[3:40:01] to speed limits using recent

[3:40:01] changes in state legislation

[3:40:02] and the findings of the speed

[3:40:06] management plan To give a bit

[3:40:10] of a background In 2022

[3:40:10] the city applied for the safe

[3:40:14] streets for all federal grant

[3:40:15] and was awarded a three part

[3:40:16] award to develop supplemental

[3:40:19] plans to support a vision Zero

[3:40:20] strategic plan.

[3:40:20] One of those elements was

[3:40:21] the preparation of a

[3:40:22] comprehensive speed management

[3:40:27] plan.

[3:40:28] >> To give additional

[3:40:28] background on how speed limits

[3:40:32] are set, Transportation

[3:40:33] Department is responsible for

[3:40:37] performing the speed surveys to

[3:40:37] establish the speed limits

[3:40:41] citywide The speed surveys are

[3:40:42] done on a 7 to 14 year cycle

[3:40:45] about 842 miles are surveyed.

[3:40:46] That's a quarter of the street

[3:40:49] network Speed limits are based

[3:40:50] on the 85th percentile That's

[3:40:54] the speed at or below which 85%

[3:40:55] of drivers are traveling under

[3:40:55] free flow conditions And not

[3:40:59] all of our street network are

[3:41:00] surveyed.

[3:41:03] Any on and surveyed street are

[3:41:03] set at 25mph by default and

[3:41:07] these are mostly our

[3:41:08] residential streets.

[3:41:08] California vehicle code does

[3:41:09] require that speed limits be

[3:41:13] established by resolution.

[3:41:13] So any reductions that we're

[3:41:17] proposing as part of this plan

[3:41:18] will have to be updated by city

[3:41:22] council.

[3:41:23] This slide is a reminder that

[3:41:27] effective speed management is

[3:41:28] more than just about the posted

[3:41:28] speed.

[3:41:33] It's also about the conditions

[3:41:33] that encourage safe speeds and

[3:41:37] provide those safe crossings.

[3:41:37] The city's objective with

[3:41:38] the speed management plan is to

[3:41:41] implement the speed reductions

[3:41:42] with changes to the built

[3:41:42] environment.

[3:41:46] The photos shown here are our

[3:41:47] most prominent vision Zero

[3:41:48] projects and their evolution

[3:41:51] from traditional capital

[3:41:52] programing to our quick build

[3:41:53] installation of safety

[3:41:57] improvements The Quick Build

[3:41:57] Roundabout something

[3:41:58] the Transportation Department

[3:42:01] can build quickly in-house and

[3:42:02] significantly cheaper than

[3:42:06] the traditional build projects

[3:42:06] .

[3:42:07] The urgency that we're all

[3:42:07] feeling with Vision Zero really

[3:42:11] pushes our department to move

[3:42:11] faster with less resources.

[3:42:15] Hence the department is

[3:42:16] actively working on more of

[3:42:16] these quick build facilities In

[3:42:20] addition to finishing up

[3:42:20] several of these traditional

[3:42:25] build projects, the speed

[3:42:25] management plan is very data

[3:42:29] driven.

[3:42:30] It's using the data and

[3:42:31] information from the city's

[3:42:34] systemic safety analysis.

[3:42:35] That evaluation essentially

[3:42:35] looked at ten years worth of

[3:42:39] injury crash data to find

[3:42:40] patterns and common

[3:42:41] characteristics where these

[3:42:44] crash sites are happening And

[3:42:45] by doing that it allows

[3:42:45] the city to be more proactive

[3:42:49] and program improvements rather

[3:42:50] than reactive and waiting for

[3:42:54] crashes to occur.

[3:42:54] I think it's important to

[3:42:55] emphasize the speed management

[3:42:59] plan relies in part on

[3:42:59] the systemic safety analysis to

[3:43:00] help narrow candidate locations

[3:43:03] for speed reductions within

[3:43:04] the select categories of

[3:43:11] Assembly Bill 43 State Assembly

[3:43:12] Bill 43 b 43 allowed for a

[3:43:12] number of changes in

[3:43:15] the vehicle code which allows

[3:43:16] the cities to be more flexible

[3:43:17] when setting the speed limits

[3:43:21] The table here shows the four

[3:43:21] major categories that we will

[3:43:22] review and what they mean for

[3:43:25] speed reduction.

[3:43:29] >> ab 43 allows for an

[3:43:30] additional five mile per hour

[3:43:31] speed limit reduction for

[3:43:34] safety corridors for ped bike

[3:43:35] generators and business

[3:43:35] Activity district.

[3:43:39] It also allows further

[3:43:40] reduction at school zones and

[3:43:40] we'll go over each of these

[3:43:46] categories a bit more in detail

[3:43:46] .

[3:43:47] >> Safety corridor is defined

[3:43:51] as the highest number of severe

[3:43:51] fatal injury crashes and only

[3:43:52] about one fifth of the network

[3:43:55] can be in this category.

[3:43:56] >> The plan focuses on reducing

[3:43:57] speed limits along systemic

[3:44:01] safety corridor where fatal or

[3:44:02] severe injury crashes have

[3:44:02] occurred and where these common

[3:44:06] patterns or roadway

[3:44:06] characteristics are present

[3:44:10] speed reduction is important

[3:44:11] but as mentioned we also want

[3:44:11] to pair them with improvements

[3:44:15] for maximum safety benefits We

[3:44:20] are proposing in fiscal year 27

[3:44:20] cip budget request for a

[3:44:24] handful of quick build projects

[3:44:25] to help support the speed limit

[3:44:25] reductions at the safety

[3:44:28] corridors with additional

[3:44:29] requests planned in future

[3:44:33] years.

[3:44:34] >> The second criteria is

[3:44:38] the ped bike generators.

[3:44:39] This is defined as land use to

[3:44:40] generate high pedestrian or

[3:44:43] bicycle use.

[3:44:44] This triggers a lot of

[3:44:45] locations throughout the city

[3:44:48] Features like crosswalk

[3:44:49] sidewalks, bikeways can trigger

[3:44:50] this criteria so a lot of

[3:44:54] streets segments can qualify.

[3:44:54] The plan's approach is to focus

[3:44:58] on these where these measures

[3:44:59] are going to be most effective

[3:44:59] which is within the systemic

[3:45:03] safety corridors particularly

[3:45:04] on transit routes that generate

[3:45:08] high pedestrian and bicycle

[3:45:08] activity.

[3:45:09] In summary, the safety

[3:45:09] corridors and the ped bike

[3:45:13] generators are essentially

[3:45:14] being combined and proposing to

[3:45:14] reduce speed limits that would

[3:45:18] include all 488 intersections

[3:45:19] that's been identified through

[3:45:25] the systemic safety analysis.

[3:45:26] >> Business Activity District

[3:45:30] is another category where speed

[3:45:31] reductions are allowed.

[3:45:31] Transportation Department

[3:45:35] previously brought a package to

[3:45:35] council in APRIL 2025 that

[3:45:40] reduced speed limits along 11

[3:45:40] business corridors.

[3:45:44] The city regulations sets a

[3:45:45] very specific criteria for what

[3:45:46] qualifies as a business

[3:45:49] activity district and through

[3:45:50] this plan we evaluated the rest

[3:45:54] of the city to identify

[3:45:55] additional corridors that meet

[3:45:55] this criteria and are eligible

[3:46:00] for speed reduction and as a

[3:46:01] result qualifying business

[3:46:01] activity district streets

[3:46:04] across the city will see speed

[3:46:07] limits reduced down to 20 or

[3:46:08] 25mph depending on the street

[3:46:09] design and how that street

[3:46:12] functions.

[3:46:17] >> Finally we have the criteria

[3:46:18] for school zones.

[3:46:19] The plan recommends speed limit

[3:46:23] reductions at schools city wide

[3:46:26] lowering speeds to 15mph within

[3:46:31] 500ft of a school and 25mph

[3:46:31] between 500 and 1000ft of

[3:46:31] schools.

[3:46:35] The 15 mile per hour sign would

[3:46:36] typically have the standard

[3:46:39] when children present condition

[3:46:40] included as part of that

[3:46:41] signage And this approach is

[3:46:45] being proposed and applied

[3:46:45] consistently across all schools

[3:46:46] throughout the city of San

[3:46:46] Diego.

[3:46:50] We do receive a significant

[3:46:50] amount of requests from

[3:46:51] stakeholders, constituents,

[3:46:53] advocates to lower speeds

[3:46:59] especially near schools.

[3:46:59] This slide brings everything

[3:47:04] together The milage is broken

[3:47:04] down by the criteria shown.

[3:47:05] The key takeaway here is that

[3:47:09] through this plan the city is

[3:47:09] proposing speed limit

[3:47:12] reductions on roughly one fifth

[3:47:13] 20% of the overall roadway

[3:47:13] network.

[3:47:17] That's nearly 680 miles total.

[3:47:21] We can't emphasize enough.

[3:47:22] The plan also recommends

[3:47:23] funding for future safety

[3:47:23] improvements along these

[3:47:26] corridors and pairing speed

[3:47:27] reductions with traffic calming

[3:47:29] measures to make them most

[3:47:34] effective.

[3:47:35] Implementation is expected to

[3:47:39] begin in fiscal year 27 and

[3:47:40] that's contingent on funding

[3:47:44] the same crews who would

[3:47:45] install these speed limit signs

[3:47:49] are fully dedicated to parking

[3:47:50] operations and expansions and

[3:47:51] there are normal routine

[3:47:51] traffic service requests that

[3:47:54] they perform throughout

[3:47:54] the city to support

[3:47:55] implementation.

[3:47:59] We are requesting $2.4 million

[3:48:03] in fiscal year 27 that funding

[3:48:04] would cover materials and

[3:48:07] installation for approximately

[3:48:07] 3000 new speed limit signs

[3:48:12] including 1200 new poles, 3000

[3:48:13] signs exceeding more than half

[3:48:17] of our Sign Shop's annual

[3:48:17] capacity.

[3:48:18] So an external fabrication

[3:48:19] vendor will be needed to avoid

[3:48:23] impacting day to day operations

[3:48:26] That causes about $180,000.

[3:48:27] The remaining funds primarily

[3:48:31] cover staff overtime that's

[3:48:32] needed to deliver this work

[3:48:33] efficiently within one fiscal

[3:48:36] year If overtime funding is not

[3:48:37] approved, we do expect impacts

[3:48:41] to our routine traffic service

[3:48:42] requests and other traffic

[3:48:42] safety improvements simply

[3:48:46] because this work would be

[3:48:47] competing for those same

[3:48:50] limited staff resources.

[3:48:51] With this funding in place,

[3:48:52] however, the Department will be

[3:48:55] well positioned to deliver

[3:48:56] the speed management plan in a

[3:48:56] timely manner.

[3:48:57] Minimize impact StoryCorps

[3:49:00] services and accelerate safety

[3:49:01] benefits for communities

[3:49:02] throughout the city of San

[3:49:02] Diego.

[3:49:07] Thank you.

[3:49:08] All right.

[3:49:08] Thank you for your

[3:49:09] presentation.

[3:49:09] I do want to note for

[3:49:13] the record that we also have

[3:49:14] Tammy Chavez, the interim

[3:49:14] director of transportation as

[3:49:18] well as Bethany Dusek.

[3:49:18] And I'm sorry I have to read

[3:49:19] this.

[3:49:19] Chief Performance Logistics

[3:49:22] Officer We appreciate both of

[3:49:23] you being here for this item.

[3:49:23] So with that Clark, please

[3:49:27] proceed with public comment.

[3:49:27] Thank you.

[3:49:28] If I can have Aria Grossman,

[3:49:32] please come forward.

[3:49:33] You'll have a minute and a half

[3:49:36] and then if I can have Ian

[3:49:37] Hembree, Blair Beckman and Bob

[3:49:41] Kozinski please come forward to

[3:49:41] the other reserved seats at

[3:49:42] the front.

[3:49:42] Please proceed when ready.

[3:49:43] Hello.

[3:49:46] My name is Aria Grossman.

[3:49:46] I'm the policy manager at

[3:49:47] Circulate San Diego and I'm

[3:49:51] speaking in strong support of

[3:49:52] advancing the speed management

[3:49:52] plan.

[3:49:53] I want to thank you all for

[3:49:56] taking this up And to everyone

[3:49:56] who worked hard on this effort

[3:50:00] we know for a fact that

[3:50:01] lowering speed limits saves

[3:50:01] lives 5 or 10mph.

[3:50:02] It can be the difference

[3:50:06] between walking away from a

[3:50:06] crash and perishing.

[3:50:07] I am excited that the city is

[3:50:10] moving forward with this.

[3:50:11] I think it's a fantastic

[3:50:12] example of good leadership.

[3:50:15] I would also like to thank

[3:50:16] the Transportation Department

[3:50:16] for stating that it plans to

[3:50:17] prioritize school zones and

[3:50:20] this is implemented when this

[3:50:20] was heard at 80.

[3:50:24] We are very supportive of this

[3:50:25] approach as prioritizing Making

[3:50:25] streets safer for children

[3:50:30] should be a shared goal for all

[3:50:30] of us.

[3:50:31] I encourage the full council

[3:50:33] and the mayor to make funding

[3:50:34] implementation of this plan a

[3:50:37] priority in the 2027 budget.

[3:50:38] This effort, if paired with

[3:50:38] targeted infrastructure

[3:50:42] improvements like fixing

[3:50:43] the fatal 15 and the traffic

[3:50:44] calming measures we saw in

[3:50:47] the presentation will together

[3:50:48] go a long way towards making

[3:50:49] streets safer for San Diego

[3:50:49] residents.

[3:50:52] This plan that we're hearing

[3:50:53] today is great progress and

[3:50:54] the city has the chance to make

[3:50:54] a real difference with this

[3:50:57] effort through the budget

[3:50:58] process and I urge you to do

[3:50:58] so.

[3:50:59] Thank you very much.

[3:51:05] Thank you, Ian.

[3:51:05] Evening.

[3:51:05] Good evening.

[3:51:09] City Council My name is Ian

[3:51:10] Henry and I am the advocacy and

[3:51:11] community manager for the San

[3:51:12] Diego County Bicycle Coalition.

[3:51:14] I'm here to speak in favor of

[3:51:15] the adoption of the city's

[3:51:15] speed management plan.

[3:51:16] I want to begin by thanking

[3:51:19] the Transportation Department

[3:51:19] for the presentation and their

[3:51:20] hard work on this plan.

[3:51:23] It is truly ambitious and

[3:51:24] the speed reductions identified

[3:51:25] in this plan will save lives.

[3:51:25] Speed is one of the largest

[3:51:28] factors determining the outcome

[3:51:29] of a crash a person hit by a

[3:51:33] car at 40mph eight times more

[3:51:33] likely to die than a person hit

[3:51:34] by a car at 20mph.

[3:51:37] And for those who survive a

[3:51:38] crash, the effects can be life

[3:51:39] changing brain damage, lost

[3:51:39] limbs and burdensome medical

[3:51:42] bills are among the costs

[3:51:43] incurred by those who survive

[3:51:43] traffic violence.

[3:51:46] Reducing speed limits is

[3:51:47] the first most obvious step for

[3:51:48] making our streets safer.

[3:51:48] The next steps including

[3:51:51] building safer infrastructure,

[3:51:52] reallocating roadway space to

[3:51:53] other modes and increasing

[3:51:57] dangerous driving enforcement

[3:51:57] should follow Make our streets

[3:51:58] safer by approving this plan

[3:52:02] allocating the requested budget

[3:52:02] item for next year and

[3:52:03] following through with

[3:52:04] the commitments to plans,

[3:52:07] policies and projects that save

[3:52:07] lives.

[3:52:07] >> Thank you.

[3:52:08] Blaire Beekman Please come

[3:52:11] forward.

[3:52:17] Hi.

[3:52:17] Thank you.

[3:52:18] We're a big band.

[3:52:19] I just like to first very much

[3:52:21] thank Councilperson Von Wilpert

[3:52:22] who I think really nice

[3:52:26] questions about the previous

[3:52:26] item with the police chief

[3:52:27] about our current public safety

[3:52:31] practice is I think he did a

[3:52:32] really good job in asking

[3:52:35] important questions that I

[3:52:36] think work towards the concepts

[3:52:40] of peace in this time of we're

[3:52:41] in a fragile state of war.

[3:52:44] Good luck how we can talk in

[3:52:45] terms of openness and important

[3:52:46] questions of best practices and

[3:52:50] what vision Zero tries to do.

[3:52:51] I think you've taken a really

[3:52:54] good approach with Vision Zero

[3:52:54] and with technology issues

[3:52:58] overall you don't beat us over

[3:52:59] the head with with tech

[3:52:59] provision zero You don't want

[3:53:02] to overly enforce vision zero

[3:53:03] things.

[3:53:03] You want us as individuals of

[3:53:07] the community to come to our

[3:53:07] own conclusions that

[3:53:08] the slowing down is important

[3:53:11] and thank you You're doing that

[3:53:12] and you're you're working

[3:53:16] towards that Good principles of

[3:53:17] vision zero The quick build

[3:53:21] ideas that is also going to

[3:53:22] fast track new technology I

[3:53:25] hope you wanting to have more

[3:53:26] open accountable practices for

[3:53:30] all our technology the more you

[3:53:31] practice that open technology

[3:53:31] practices it simply invites

[3:53:35] better ideas and creative

[3:53:36] thinking for your projects

[3:53:36] Overall I see that at sandag

[3:53:39] all the time.

[3:53:40] I hope you can remember that

[3:53:46] it's important how we build our

[3:53:47] vision, our future.

[3:53:48] >> Thank you Bob because I key

[3:53:54] PRESIDENT LaCava I've been

[3:53:55] watching this meeting all day

[3:53:58] today and I understand that

[3:53:59] you're not a fifth grade

[3:54:00] teacher but I urge you to

[3:54:04] properly chastise and or

[3:54:04] discipline your fellow council

[3:54:08] members who are routinely chit

[3:54:09] chatting and looking at their

[3:54:13] phones while the citizens are

[3:54:14] speaking.

[3:54:14] They could at least pretend to

[3:54:18] pay attention Also PRESIDENT

[3:54:19] LaCava where's the picture of

[3:54:23] the PRESIDENT?

[3:54:24] I think it's been over a year

[3:54:25] now and I still don't see it in

[3:54:25] our chambers.

[3:54:28] We have had it there for as

[3:54:29] long as I've been coming here

[3:54:29] probably as long as you have

[3:54:30] to.

[3:54:33] Seems highly partizan and

[3:54:34] disrespectful to intentionally

[3:54:38] omit that from our chambers.

[3:54:38] Finally with regard to this

[3:54:42] particular item the cited speed

[3:54:46] of 85% that means 15% above it

[3:54:50] and 85% below it That already

[3:54:51] makes 15% of our citizens

[3:54:51] criminals.

[3:54:54] I think that's enough.

[3:54:59] >> Thank you.

[3:55:00] So the five minute time we're

[3:55:01] here in council chambers going

[3:55:02] to those participating remotely

[3:55:05] we currently have 13 speakers

[3:55:06] with their hands raised.

[3:55:06] Jason be if you can please on

[3:55:09] mute after that will be Becky

[3:55:10] Rep Jason please proceed.

[3:55:11] >> Hi I'm a resident of

[3:55:13] downtown.

[3:55:14] I fully support the speed limit

[3:55:15] plan and thank you to the city

[3:55:19] staff for putting it together.

[3:55:19] One thing I would like to see

[3:55:20] is a reduction of speed limits

[3:55:21] in our parks.

[3:55:23] I believe this use case is

[3:55:24] covered under ab 43 because

[3:55:25] parks are pedestrian and bike

[3:55:28] generators.

[3:55:29] The big one is East Mission Bay

[3:55:30] Drive which is inside Mission

[3:55:34] Bay Park and is used for both

[3:55:35] recreation and is also a key

[3:55:38] bike route for commuters and

[3:55:38] students to ucsd.

[3:55:39] But it's very dangerous because

[3:55:42] there are no bike lanes and

[3:55:43] cars speed down it at over 45

[3:55:47] miles an hour to skip traffic

[3:55:47] on the five.

[3:55:48] Another one is Balboa Drive on

[3:55:52] the West Mesa of Balboa Park.

[3:55:52] When the council voted against

[3:55:57] a multi-use path in favor of

[3:55:57] diagonal parking, we were

[3:55:58] promised that joggers and bikes

[3:56:01] would be safe because of a 15

[3:56:02] mile an hour speed limit there.

[3:56:06] However, somehow in

[3:56:07] the intervening time the speed

[3:56:07] limit was raised to 25 on

[3:56:11] Balboa Drive.

[3:56:12] And since then a cyclist has

[3:56:13] already been hit by a car And

[3:56:15] there's also no no no longer

[3:56:16] nearly as many people jogging

[3:56:20] and walking towards dogs on

[3:56:20] Balboa Drive.

[3:56:21] So please, you know, return

[3:56:25] the speed limit on billboards

[3:56:26] five at least to 15 if not ten

[3:56:26] miles an hour.

[3:56:27] >> Thank you.

[3:56:31] Next is Becky Rapp If you can

[3:56:31] please unmute.

[3:56:35] After that is the original

[3:56:36] booking rep I cannot meet for

[3:56:44] you but good afternoon.

[3:56:45] My name is Becky Rapp.

[3:56:46] Thank you for bringing this

[3:56:48] item forward As Vision Zero is

[3:56:49] critical to public safety and I

[3:56:53] urge you to consider a critical

[3:56:54] piece of traffic safety that is

[3:56:54] often overlooked and that's

[3:56:58] the drug impaired driving

[3:56:59] particularly driving high on

[3:56:59] marijuana.

[3:57:04] Unlike alcohol, there's

[3:57:04] currently no universally

[3:57:07] reliable roadside test that can

[3:57:08] measure real time marijuana

[3:57:12] impairment.

[3:57:13] Thc can remain in a person's

[3:57:17] system long after use and

[3:57:18] impairment levels vary widely

[3:57:18] from person to person.

[3:57:19] This creates a serious

[3:57:23] challenge for enforcement and

[3:57:24] for public safety because there

[3:57:27] is no clear threshold that

[3:57:28] guarantees safe driving.

[3:57:32] The safest public message is

[3:57:33] simple If you have use

[3:57:33] marijuana you should not drive

[3:57:37] vision zero.

[3:57:38] Should include stronger

[3:57:38] education enforcement tools and

[3:57:42] policy guidance addressing drug

[3:57:43] impaired driving just as it

[3:57:46] does for speeding distracted

[3:57:47] driving and alcohol impairment.

[3:57:48] >> Thank you.

[3:57:48] Thank you.

[3:57:53] Next is the original if you can

[3:57:53] please unmute.

[3:57:57] After that is very $180,000 for

[3:58:03] you guys is to go change and

[3:58:03] you got to go to a different

[3:58:04] company because they won't be

[3:58:08] able to handle all the signage

[3:58:08] in the bank.

[3:58:09] So when I talking about

[3:58:10] overtime it's like this has

[3:58:12] nothing to do with safety you

[3:58:12] guys and everything to do with

[3:58:16] controlling people's movements

[3:58:17] .

[3:58:17] You're actually putting people

[3:58:18] in danger by doing things like

[3:58:18] roundabouts.

[3:58:20] We've already seen the data

[3:58:21] come forward of this happening

[3:58:22] in other locations yet you guys

[3:58:26] refuse to acknowledge it So

[3:58:27] you're literally putting people

[3:58:28] in danger by putting in that

[3:58:32] type of infrastructure and we

[3:58:32] shouldn't have to pay for it

[3:58:33] because you guys want to

[3:58:36] control our minutes but you

[3:58:37] need to quit telling people

[3:58:38] that this is for safety And you

[3:58:42] know all of this and that

[3:58:42] because in reality like doesn't

[3:58:43] matter.

[3:58:46] People are always going to die.

[3:58:47] It's a part of life and nothing

[3:58:48] you guys do is actually going

[3:58:51] to slow that down especially

[3:58:51] when you guys are engaged in it

[3:58:52] yourself.

[3:58:56] It's just disgusting because

[3:58:56] it's like you want to sit here

[3:59:00] and you know literally make it

[3:59:01] so that people drive around

[3:59:01] more by taking away parking

[3:59:06] spots and lanes and then making

[3:59:06] things slower and you act like

[3:59:07] not only is that going to bring

[3:59:10] public safety but that it's

[3:59:11] going to save the planet And

[3:59:12] it's just it's ridiculous how

[3:59:16] much money we have to spend in

[3:59:16] order for you guys to change

[3:59:17] something like that.

[3:59:20] We shouldn't have to spend

[3:59:20] $180,000 on parking signs

[3:59:24] because you guys want to go in

[3:59:24] and lower the speed limit when

[3:59:25] there's people on the street

[3:59:26] suffering and dying because of

[3:59:29] your guys is negligent.

[3:59:30] >> Your time has concluded.

[3:59:30] Harry if you can please unmute.

[3:59:34] After that is gathering.

[3:59:35] >> Good afternoon Everybody is

[3:59:39] here with respect Bird rock.

[3:59:39] I'm speaking in support of this

[3:59:40] item.

[3:59:44] Thank you to the 80 I committee

[3:59:45] for their unanimous vote and

[3:59:45] shared with friends office and

[3:59:47] city staff for

[3:59:48] the Transportation Department

[3:59:49] for their enormous work and

[3:59:52] the mayor's direction.

[3:59:53] Speed determines whether

[3:59:53] someone walks away or is

[3:59:54] carried away.

[3:59:58] This plan will make San Diego a

[3:59:59] statewide leader in

[4:00:03] implementing 8043 lower speed,

[4:00:03] save lives and protect

[4:00:04] children, seniors and everyone

[4:00:08] who drives walks or bikes

[4:00:08] reduces emergency response or

[4:00:13] litigation costs, creates quiet

[4:00:14] or more peaceful neighborhoods

[4:00:15] and safe streets are good for

[4:00:18] business in Bird with street

[4:00:18] parking revenues went up and

[4:00:19] jobs increased.

[4:00:19] We're grateful that La Hoya

[4:00:23] Boulevard is included.

[4:00:23] We appreciate Councilmember

[4:00:24] Lacob and his staff responding

[4:00:28] to many community concerns.

[4:00:29] I continue to work with

[4:00:29] residents.

[4:00:30] The city could sell street

[4:00:30] signs that the revenue

[4:00:33] generator like other cities do

[4:00:34] to offset costs.

[4:00:34] That's just a quick idea.

[4:00:39] But the cost of implementation

[4:00:39] is modest.

[4:00:40] The cost of doing nothing is

[4:00:44] measured in lives lost.

[4:00:45] We support this plan and

[4:00:45] prioritize implementation

[4:00:50] especially in smaller roads and

[4:00:50] high traffic recreation

[4:00:51] corridors, parks and beach

[4:00:54] access areas from Moline to

[4:00:55] Mission Bay Drive.

[4:00:55] >> Thank you.

[4:01:00] Next is Guthrie.

[4:01:01] >> After that is Leif if you

[4:01:01] can please.

[4:01:02] I'm you.

[4:01:02] Hi.

[4:01:05] Thank you so much guys, This is

[4:01:05] this is great news.

[4:01:06] I'm so excited for this.

[4:01:10] This is the type of bold and

[4:01:10] important action we need.

[4:01:11] It's a vision.

[4:01:15] Zero is a thing that breaks my

[4:01:16] heart every day.

[4:01:16] I've heard way too many stories

[4:01:20] of children dying of parents

[4:01:21] dying of pregnant mothers

[4:01:21] dying.

[4:01:22] Just this year in L.A. We get

[4:01:26] to do something special.

[4:01:26] We get to show the state that

[4:01:27] this is an important issue and

[4:01:29] that we're going to take

[4:01:30] the initiative and actually

[4:01:31] address it.

[4:01:31] So I encourage you to follow

[4:01:32] through with what your staff is

[4:01:36] recommending.

[4:01:37] Follow through with lowering

[4:01:37] the speed limits.

[4:01:38] Follow through with

[4:01:38] implementing the actual

[4:01:41] physical safely safety

[4:01:42] structures to make this happen

[4:01:46] Because I do want to say I'm as

[4:01:47] excited as I am about this.

[4:01:51] Signs are signs right?

[4:01:52] And as a YouTuber I watch once

[4:01:56] said physics is more powerful

[4:01:57] than science So I would

[4:01:58] encourage you to implement

[4:01:58] stuff like Limits as new quick

[4:02:02] build speed bumps implement

[4:02:03] the other quick build measures

[4:02:03] that your staff are talking

[4:02:07] about.

[4:02:08] We have opportunities to save

[4:02:12] lives and I love what Harry

[4:02:13] said The cost of inaction is

[4:02:13] measured in lives.

[4:02:17] The cost of action is really

[4:02:18] pennies on the dollar for what

[4:02:19] our transportation budget is.

[4:02:22] So I encourage you to pass this

[4:02:23] measure and just show people

[4:02:24] that you care about their

[4:02:24] lives.

[4:02:29] Thank you.

[4:02:30] The five minute timer has

[4:02:31] completed three speakers in

[4:02:31] the queue and additional

[4:02:32] speakers will be taken leave if

[4:02:38] you can please unmute somebody

[4:02:39] .

[4:02:39] Hello my name is Left Campbell

[4:02:40] and I'm the vice PRESIDENT Of

[4:02:44] Writers The and there's not a

[4:02:45] strong support of this measure.

[4:02:45] Please approve It has not been

[4:02:48] said from free to speak.

[4:02:49] I can't really say much more to

[4:02:50] it but I want to point out a

[4:02:51] couple of things Where is great

[4:02:53] that we're going to reduce

[4:02:53] the speed limit?

[4:02:54] I strongly agree that we have

[4:02:55] to put in physical barriers to

[4:02:58] actually ensure that people

[4:02:59] keep to the speed limit.

[4:03:00] That should also come with

[4:03:00] enforcement For people going

[4:03:03] over the speed limit.

[4:03:04] Ultimately also what we want to

[4:03:05] see is we want to see

[4:03:05] structures that encourage

[4:03:10] pedestrians to walk safely What

[4:03:11] they want to go have bike lanes

[4:03:12] that are physically separated

[4:03:14] that gives cyclists more safety

[4:03:15] when they ride the bike.

[4:03:16] And then long term what we also

[4:03:17] want to see is we want to see

[4:03:19] dedicated bus lanes and trying

[4:03:20] to signal priority so people

[4:03:21] can go to the places where they

[4:03:26] want to go fast And then also

[4:03:26] if people do want to have a

[4:03:27] drink we highly encourage them

[4:03:31] to take public transport so

[4:03:32] that they don't try to drive.

[4:03:33] Thank you for for the attention

[4:03:37] to this to this item and please

[4:03:38] put it Thank you.

[4:03:38] >> Thank you.

[4:03:39] Next is Zach If you come please

[4:03:44] unmute Zach please I'm here.

[4:03:49] >> Thank you.

[4:03:50] I'm calling in from district

[4:03:51] five to support this measure.

[4:03:55] As everybody here is aware,

[4:03:55] multiple children died last

[4:03:56] year either near a school or on

[4:03:57] their way to school And that is

[4:04:01] something that I am unwilling

[4:04:01] to accept.

[4:04:02] And again this measure passed

[4:04:02] through committee and through

[4:04:06] council as I hope it is would

[4:04:06] show us that the City Council

[4:04:07] is unable to accept that as a

[4:04:12] cost of doing business too.

[4:04:12] And as multiple commenters have

[4:04:16] pointed out, speed of vehicles

[4:04:17] makes a huge difference in

[4:04:18] pedestrian safety.

[4:04:21] 5 or 10mph doesn't mean a lot

[4:04:22] when you're behind the wheel of

[4:04:22] a car.

[4:04:23] But if you're hit by a car that

[4:04:26] is the difference between as

[4:04:27] another commentary about input

[4:04:28] being carried away and walking

[4:04:32] away.

[4:04:33] I do want to second the calls

[4:04:33] to increase enforcement in

[4:04:37] these zones and add

[4:04:38] infrastructure to for both

[4:04:39] traffic calming as well as

[4:04:43] pedestrian friendly and safe

[4:04:44] bike infrastructure since a

[4:04:49] sign will only go so far, it

[4:04:49] must be paired with other

[4:04:50] measures to ensure that drivers

[4:04:51] are actually following those

[4:04:55] signs.

[4:04:56] I particularly think of a road

[4:04:56] near me Castello Seal which

[4:04:57] runs in fronof middle hool

[4:04:59] and frequently parents are

[4:05:00] parked in the bike lanes and

[4:05:01] kids riding to and from school

[4:05:06] or forced to merge with 35 mile

[4:05:07] per hour traffic just to get to

[4:05:07] their classes which is

[4:05:12] completely unsafe And they

[4:05:13] protected bike infrastructure

[4:05:13] would go a long way bearing

[4:05:14] with this to keeping them safe.

[4:05:18] Thank you.

[4:05:19] Thank you.

[4:05:19] Next is John Stump if you can

[4:05:20] please unmute after that is an.

[4:05:23] Johnstone.

[4:05:24] >> Speed kills there's no

[4:05:29] question about it You know in

[4:05:29] the time since we've been

[4:05:34] tracking automobile deaths and

[4:05:35] injuries the number of deaths

[4:05:40] and injuries has kept at about

[4:05:45] just under 50,000 a year.

[4:05:45] Now the decrease at first was

[4:05:50] because we put in padded dashes

[4:05:51] and collapsible steering wheels

[4:05:51] and all those sort of things.

[4:05:56] But the real problem is speed.

[4:05:57] I support this item.

[4:06:01] I hope that enforcement will

[4:06:02] enforce speed limits on Home

[4:06:02] Avenue.

[4:06:08] I live a half mile from it and

[4:06:08] every night it's a track.

[4:06:13] Home avenue please include

[4:06:14] speed containment on Home

[4:06:14] Avenue in District four.

[4:06:19] Thank you.

[4:06:20] Thank you.

[4:06:21] And if you can please unmute.

[4:06:24] After that is Kathryn Douglas.

[4:06:25] >> Hey good afternoon.

[4:06:32] My name is an r so I have and

[4:06:32] I'm the executive director of

[4:06:33] Bike City.

[4:06:33] I want to thank city staff and

[4:06:36] this council for making

[4:06:37] the right choice here and

[4:06:38] advancing the speed management

[4:06:42] plan And I look forward to it

[4:06:43] passing and eventually being

[4:06:43] implemented.

[4:06:44] About two years ago City

[4:06:48] launched our legislation that

[4:06:49] saves lives campaigns.

[4:06:49] The push for the implementation

[4:06:53] of two critical state laws ab

[4:06:54] 43 and ab 413.

[4:06:55] These laws together give cities

[4:06:58] the tools to reduce speeds and

[4:06:59] improve visibility at

[4:06:59] intersections.

[4:07:00] Proven ways to save lives on

[4:07:00] our streets.

[4:07:04] We're grateful for

[4:07:05] the willingness of many council

[4:07:06] members and staff to have met

[4:07:09] with us over the past two years

[4:07:10] and work collaboratively to

[4:07:10] move this forward.

[4:07:11] Lowering speed limits is a

[4:07:14] meaningful step in the right

[4:07:15] direction.

[4:07:16] But if we want to truly achieve

[4:07:16] Vision Zero we know that signs

[4:07:20] alone are not enough.

[4:07:20] The next step must be street

[4:07:21] reconfiguration and

[4:07:22] infrastructure that actually

[4:07:26] slows vehicles down By design

[4:07:27] that means safer intersections,

[4:07:32] daylighting traffic calming and

[4:07:33] protected spaces for people

[4:07:33] walking and biking as well as

[4:07:34] enforcement.

[4:07:38] We appreciate the progress

[4:07:39] today and look forward to

[4:07:40] continuing to work with

[4:07:40] the city to build streets that

[4:07:45] are truly safe for all San

[4:07:46] Diegans.

[4:07:46] >> Thank you.

[4:07:47] Thank you, Kathryn Douglas and

[4:07:47] then Nicole.

[4:07:51] Your final speaker, Speaker

[4:07:51] Nicole Burgess.

[4:07:52] Long meeting today.

[4:07:57] It's not that I'm opposed to

[4:07:58] lowering speed limits but that

[4:07:59] alone is not going to solve

[4:08:03] the issue You hope to mitigate

[4:08:04] .

[4:08:04] Lowering the speed limit will

[4:08:05] have zero effect unless coupled

[4:08:09] with consistent widespread

[4:08:10] enforcement which we do not

[4:08:10] have.

[4:08:11] Lowering the speed limit does

[4:08:16] not change bad behavior.

[4:08:16] Enforcement changes bad

[4:08:16] behavior.

[4:08:22] But the $2.4 million into cpd

[4:08:23] so they can do the need for

[4:08:24] enforcement.

[4:08:27] I'm going to reiterate.

[4:08:28] Lowering the speed limit will

[4:08:32] have zero in fact unless

[4:08:33] coupled with consistent

[4:08:34] widespread enforcement which we

[4:08:34] do not have.

[4:08:39] Lowering the speed limit does

[4:08:39] not change bad behavior.

[4:08:40] Enforcement changes bad

[4:08:45] behavior.

[4:08:46] Thank you.

[4:08:46] Thank you, Nicole.

[4:08:47] If you can please unmute.

[4:08:51] If you raise your hand after

[4:08:52] that there are no more speakers

[4:08:53] to be taken.

[4:08:53] The five minute timer had

[4:08:54] concluded.

[4:08:57] Nicole please proceed.

[4:08:57] Good afternoon.

[4:08:58] My name's Nicole Burgess and

[4:08:59] I'm here to show support for

[4:09:03] the speed management plan and

[4:09:04] all quick build projects that

[4:09:05] can come up with a good budget

[4:09:09] management.

[4:09:10] I appreciate all of you staff

[4:09:10] and all the awards that have

[4:09:15] brought this forward to try to

[4:09:16] get this to this point and I

[4:09:17] appreciate all of you for your

[4:09:17] support.

[4:09:21] Moving this forward for all

[4:09:22] the reasons that so many

[4:09:23] speakers have said speed saves

[4:09:27] lives So speed kills and slower

[4:09:27] speeds always lives.

[4:09:33] So imagine you on a 30 mile an

[4:09:34] hour street riding your bike.

[4:09:39] The thing that's going to make

[4:09:40] you feel more comfortable is

[4:09:41] when those cars are going 20mph

[4:09:41] or less.

[4:09:45] Our kids going to school is

[4:09:46] the biggest thing.

[4:09:46] So I appreciate that being our

[4:09:47] focus.

[4:09:47] Safe routes to schools and

[4:09:50] getting these kids active and

[4:09:51] moving to school is going to be

[4:09:52] the best thing we can do for

[4:09:52] our kids.

[4:09:53] So all around this is better

[4:09:56] for our communities, our

[4:09:57] people, the people on

[4:09:57] the streets every day whether

[4:10:02] you're in a car bike fight

[4:10:03] we're all going to be safer.

[4:10:04] So thank you staff and board

[4:10:09] for pushing this forward and I

[4:10:10] appreciate you all on this.

[4:10:10] Thank you.

[4:10:11] That does conclude public

[4:10:15] comment and item two to

[4:10:16] present.

[4:10:16] Thank you City Clerk with that

[4:10:20] So I'll turn it over to my

[4:10:21] colleagues on the council for

[4:10:22] questions, comments and

[4:10:22] entertain a motion and we'll

[4:10:27] start out with the chair of

[4:10:28] Active Transportation

[4:10:28] Infrastructure.

[4:10:29] Council Member Clyburn Thank

[4:10:29] you Council PRESIDENT And

[4:10:33] thanks to everybody who came

[4:10:34] out or called in to offer

[4:10:34] public comment on this

[4:10:35] The active transportation

[4:10:38] infrastructure Committee voted

[4:10:39] unanimously last month to

[4:10:40] recommend the council pass this

[4:10:45] And I think my committee

[4:10:45] colleagues for that and I want

[4:10:46] to thank the Transportation

[4:10:47] Department for all the work

[4:10:50] that has got into this and this

[4:10:51] has been a lot of work.

[4:10:51] I appreciate all of

[4:10:52] the neighborhood residents and

[4:10:56] traffic safety advocates who've

[4:10:57] been calling for speed limit

[4:10:57] reductions for a long time.

[4:10:58] They have inspired much of this

[4:11:02] work.

[4:11:03] This will make our neighborhood

[4:11:03] safer by reducing speed limits

[4:11:04] at school zones, business

[4:11:08] districts and areas with lots

[4:11:09] of pedestrians and bicyclists

[4:11:10] and in places where there have

[4:11:10] been a lot of crashes.

[4:11:15] Speed limits in school zones

[4:11:16] will be reduced to 15 miles an

[4:11:17] hour where children are

[4:11:17] present.

[4:11:18] This will be much safer

[4:11:21] especially for young children

[4:11:22] who MAY not be paying attention

[4:11:22] to traffic.

[4:11:25] Most other areas that get lower

[4:11:26] speed limits will see a five

[4:11:26] mile an hour reduction Just

[4:11:27] slowing down speeds a little

[4:11:31] bit could make a big difference

[4:11:31] in safety.

[4:11:32] People across the city have

[4:11:33] been asking for this.

[4:11:33] Our neighborhoods want safer

[4:11:38] streets with slower speeds.

[4:11:39] Many people are asking us to

[4:11:39] prioritize the school zones

[4:11:44] where we begin implementing

[4:11:45] the reduced speed limits.

[4:11:46] MR. Grossman from circulating

[4:11:46] the Eagle Report started her

[4:11:50] comments this afternoon.

[4:11:50] So for the record I'll ask

[4:11:51] the same question that I asked

[4:11:52] a committee which is can we

[4:11:56] start by reducing speed limits

[4:11:57] in school zones?

[4:11:57] That's great Council Member

[4:12:02] It'll be prioritized at school

[4:12:03] zones.

[4:12:03] Thank you very much and thank

[4:12:04] you again for all of your work

[4:12:09] on this.

[4:12:10] And I will make the motion to

[4:12:11] adopt the staff recommendation.

[4:12:12] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.

[4:12:12] All right.

[4:12:12] Thank you.

[4:12:15] Council Member Towns So we do

[4:12:15] have a motion to move the staff

[4:12:16] recommendation by council

[4:12:17] member and we'll go next to

[4:12:26] council member camp You so

[4:12:27] maybe we want to thank

[4:12:27] the council member committee

[4:12:38] for want to give him a second

[4:12:39] when the time comes back and

[4:12:40] we'll go next to council member

[4:12:40] elevator.

[4:12:43] All right.

[4:12:46] I think I'll withhold

[4:12:47] the second First I think it's

[4:12:54] important to correct.

[4:12:54] I will go next to council

[4:12:55] member Campbell.

[4:12:55] My apologies.

[4:12:56] Thank you.

[4:12:56] Sorry.

[4:12:59] Council member deliverer Thank

[4:12:59] you.

[4:13:00] Staff Thank you very much for

[4:13:01] your presentation, your good

[4:13:01] work.

[4:13:05] I'm happy to second the item

[4:13:05] and I think council member

[4:13:06] Whitburn for his good work and

[4:13:07] his partnership and quite

[4:13:10] frankly the entire Council's

[4:13:11] partnership on this type of

[4:13:11] issue We hear from constituents

[4:13:16] so often about how they just

[4:13:16] want safety in their community

[4:13:22] and I can point to police, we

[4:13:23] can point to fire and very,

[4:13:24] very often I point to

[4:13:24] the Transportation Department

[4:13:28] for their work as colleagues of

[4:13:29] shared Eliminating preventable

[4:13:34] traffic deaths is so important.

[4:13:35] The heartbreak we see in

[4:13:35] communities lasts a lifetime

[4:13:39] and it's a fundamental

[4:13:40] responsibility to make sure

[4:13:40] residents can move around

[4:13:41] safely.

[4:13:45] And we know that unsafe driving

[4:13:46] is the primary cause of

[4:13:46] the severe crashes we see And

[4:13:47] what I've heard for so many

[4:13:51] times in so many town halls is

[4:13:52] that lowering speeds is what

[4:13:53] people want to see.

[4:13:53] And I've always had to point

[4:13:57] back to state law or antiquated

[4:13:58] regulations that say we really

[4:13:58] can't do that for all these

[4:14:03] different reasons But today we

[4:14:04] can fix that and we have an

[4:14:04] action before us That's a major

[4:14:05] step forward And I want to

[4:14:09] recognize the significant

[4:14:10] effort of staff and state

[4:14:10] partners and advocates,

[4:14:11] community members, council

[4:14:16] colleagues battling this act.

[4:14:16] Thank you so much.

[4:14:17] People should know that you've

[4:14:18] saved so many lives in this

[4:14:22] city And of course as the staff

[4:14:22] report notes, this isn't this

[4:14:23] isn't the only thing we're

[4:14:27] doing Lowering speeds alone is

[4:14:28] not the whole picture.

[4:14:28] Safety comes with pairing new

[4:14:29] limits with design improvements

[4:14:33] and education and enforcement

[4:14:33] to truly change that behavior.

[4:14:34] And so while today's action

[4:14:38] sets a new speed limits $2.4

[4:14:39] million are needed to install

[4:14:40] those 3000 new signs needed to

[4:14:44] operationalize it.

[4:14:45] As we discussed last week,

[4:14:46] the ip outlook shows the gap we

[4:14:49] have in mobility safety funding

[4:14:50] which is the same pot that

[4:14:51] supports these safety projects

[4:14:55] that communities ask for For

[4:14:56] District seven.

[4:14:56] Many of the corridors in

[4:14:57] the speed management plan

[4:14:58] include Jackson Drive and

[4:15:01] Waring Road, Zion Avenue,

[4:15:02] Claremont Mesa Boulevard so

[4:15:02] many school area streets where

[4:15:07] families are walking and biking

[4:15:08] every day and where these

[4:15:09] paired safety upgrades will

[4:15:09] matter the most.

[4:15:13] So with all of that in mind

[4:15:13] staff, my question for you is

[4:15:14] what is the plan to prioritize

[4:15:19] and coordinate the work so that

[4:15:19] we can see the reductions and

[4:15:20] those improvements roll out

[4:15:25] along this course?

[4:15:26] So we will prioritize areas as

[4:15:30] we mentioned where the safety

[4:15:31] benefit is going to be

[4:15:32] the highest and that's starting

[4:15:37] with the schools located along

[4:15:38] safety corridors or near safety

[4:15:38] corridors followed by other

[4:15:43] school areas and then we can

[4:15:44] work on the rest of the safety

[4:15:45] corridors themselves followed

[4:15:45] by the business activity

[4:15:46] district.

[4:15:49] But that's how it's being

[4:15:50] prioritized currently based on

[4:15:50] feedback that we received.

[4:15:55] >> Understood.

[4:15:55] Well, I appreciate the good

[4:15:56] work of the Transportation

[4:15:57] Department working with my

[4:15:57] office, with my staff and and

[4:16:01] working with your team whether

[4:16:01] it's 730 in the morning paving

[4:16:02] roads or we're talking in

[4:16:06] briefings about how we're going

[4:16:07] to make places safer for people

[4:16:07] to walk.

[4:16:08] My constituents deeply

[4:16:14] appreciate this item And so I

[4:16:15] that will conclude my second.

[4:16:15] >> All right.

[4:16:15] Thank you.

[4:16:16] Council member committee Also

[4:16:17] we have a motion by

[4:16:19] Councilmember Whitburn,

[4:16:20] the second by Councilmember

[4:16:20] Kemp.

[4:16:21] He told me the staff

[4:16:21] recommendation will go back to

[4:16:24] council member Eli Romero.

[4:16:25] PRESIDENT Thanks for all

[4:16:25] the work that is here.

[4:16:26] I do want to just quickly

[4:16:30] correct record because Council

[4:16:31] PRESIDENT You were unfairly

[4:16:36] blamed for something so came

[4:16:37] down a few years ago came down

[4:16:42] before this PRESIDENT For my

[4:16:43] direction because I thought it

[4:16:44] was weird to the PRESIDENT's

[4:16:48] head floating in our chambers.

[4:16:48] This is not a monarchy.

[4:16:49] This is a city council chambers

[4:16:55] And thank GOD that that fascist

[4:16:55] base is in in here.

[4:17:00] So on the other hand I'm sorry

[4:17:01] you take enough in that seat

[4:17:04] you don't need to take residual

[4:17:05] for my decisions of a couple

[4:17:12] years ago is a super important

[4:17:13] and I'm really really grateful

[4:17:13] that this is here in this way

[4:17:18] This has been said time and

[4:17:18] time again Speed kills and

[4:17:19] slower speeds save lives.

[4:17:22] We know that.

[4:17:23] We've known that And far too

[4:17:28] many times we've heard families

[4:17:29] of victims of traffic violence

[4:17:35] beg with us to make streets

[4:17:36] safer in the city not because

[4:17:36] it will bring back their loved

[4:17:41] ones because they with all of

[4:17:42] their hearts do not want to see

[4:17:43] anybody else feel the pain that

[4:17:47] they feel on a daily basis And

[4:17:48] they can see throughout

[4:17:53] the city the many, many places

[4:17:53] where people's lives are in

[4:17:54] danger.

[4:17:58] And we saw a couple of just

[4:18:05] unspeakable tragedies last fall

[4:18:06] one in Catholic appeals

[4:18:06] district, another in District

[4:18:11] nine where a five year old died

[4:18:12] crossing the street.

[4:18:17] And I remember vividly learning

[4:18:18] about that and it was right

[4:18:24] around Halloween and I remember

[4:18:24] holding my son's hand so tight

[4:18:25] that weekend when we were going

[4:18:29] out to look at the monsters

[4:18:30] that he enjoyed looking at in

[4:18:36] different neighborhoods And we

[4:18:40] just have to do better by and I

[4:18:41] know we are and this is a great

[4:18:47] step in that direction.

[4:18:48] I want to kind of Yes And some

[4:18:49] of the comments that we heard

[4:18:53] about this not being enough we

[4:18:53] know it's not enough.

[4:18:54] We know that this requires

[4:18:59] investment and I think one of

[4:19:00] the one of the issues that this

[4:19:04] council has been super, super

[4:19:05] collaborative about and an

[4:19:06] agreement about is the need to

[4:19:06] make our streets safer and to

[4:19:16] invest in the changes.

[4:19:16] So it is true that simply

[4:19:17] posting a street sign won't

[4:19:22] necessarily improve safety but

[4:19:23] it is a step in the right

[4:19:24] direction and we know that it

[4:19:28] will help reduce speed and we

[4:19:29] can make changes by way of

[4:19:29] traffic calming and street

[4:19:34] redesign and enforcement

[4:19:34] strategies.

[4:19:35] Ultimately this is about

[4:19:35] accountability and not just

[4:19:41] accountability for dangerous

[4:19:41] drivers but accountability for

[4:19:42] us as a city and demonstrating

[4:19:43] that if we're serious about

[4:19:46] eliminating traffic fatalities

[4:19:46] that we're going to invest in

[4:19:47] every tool available from

[4:19:52] street management to safety

[4:19:53] redesign to data driven

[4:19:53] investments.

[4:19:54] I will just be besides why I

[4:19:58] think given where we're at in

[4:19:58] terms of our structural budget

[4:19:59] deficit, the backlog in street

[4:20:00] repairs, why it's going to be

[4:20:01] so important for us to continue

[4:20:08] to lean into and know I've said

[4:20:09] this time and time again but

[4:20:10] quick build projects and

[4:20:13] working with community to to

[4:20:14] make changes quickly so that

[4:20:15] communities aren't told that

[4:20:20] the changes that they need are

[4:20:21] going to come in a decade or

[4:20:26] decade and a half but instead

[4:20:26] in the amount of time that

[4:20:27] feels appropriate for

[4:20:28] the danger that they feel and

[4:20:28] the protection that they feel

[4:20:32] for their families and their

[4:20:32] neighbors.

[4:20:33] So I also thank you again.

[4:20:38] I also want to give now I want

[4:20:39] to give you credit in your new

[4:20:39] role about being super

[4:20:40] communicative, about the ways

[4:20:44] that our parking revenue is

[4:20:45] being used to make improvements

[4:20:45] And I will give you an

[4:20:49] opportunity at the kind of

[4:20:50] seeing the way that this is

[4:20:50] rolled out if there are any

[4:20:51] ideas you have about the ways

[4:20:56] that we can use that revenue to

[4:20:57] improve street safety and speed

[4:20:57] up the way that we're making

[4:21:02] streets safer.

[4:21:07] Thank you, Councilmember Rivera

[4:21:07] Yes.

[4:21:08] That it's something that we

[4:21:13] could look into utilizing.

[4:21:14] So yes, we can definitely look

[4:21:19] into utilizing speed revenues

[4:21:20] for making some of these safety

[4:21:21] improvements in those areas.

[4:21:21] >> I appreciate that.

[4:21:26] Again, thank you for being

[4:21:26] communicative.

[4:21:27] The work that's been done has

[4:21:28] been pretty remarkable.

[4:21:28] Denver Streetlights fix,

[4:21:29] potholes build.

[4:21:33] I see you are following in that

[4:21:34] these big filling that the big

[4:21:37] shoes that you left behind to

[4:21:38] get work done at a fast rate

[4:21:39] and and make sure that

[4:21:44] the community feels the benefit

[4:21:45] from those investments.

[4:21:45] Thank you again for all work to

[4:21:46] bring this forward.

[4:21:51] I'm glad we're taking this

[4:21:51] step.

[4:21:52] That concludes our comments.

[4:21:53] Council PRESIDENT All right.

[4:21:53] Thank you, Councilmember

[4:21:54] Rivera.

[4:21:54] We'll go next to Councilmember

[4:21:56] Bob Wolpert.

[4:21:57] Thank you and thank you for

[4:21:58] the work on this item.

[4:22:01] It's incredibly important that

[4:22:02] we at least strive towards our

[4:22:03] vision Zero goals making sure

[4:22:08] pedestrians, cyclists, children

[4:22:09] walking to school, children

[4:22:09] walking to parks are safe e from

[4:22:10] collisions.

[4:22:10] So thank you to Councilor

[4:22:14] Whitburn for your leadership

[4:22:15] here I ask most of my questions

[4:22:15] at our committee level and

[4:22:16] active transportation.

[4:22:20] I just want to reiterate that

[4:22:20] we did ask our committee that

[4:22:21] since we are going to

[4:22:26] prioritize school zones when

[4:22:26] lowering speed limits first we

[4:22:27] are working with the school

[4:22:28] districts to coordinate with

[4:22:28] them.

[4:22:32] So I'm glad that we were doing

[4:22:33] that.

[4:22:33] I also want to thank the folks

[4:22:34] who come in you know, circulate

[4:22:35] freely with the bike Coalition.

[4:22:38] We are continual advocacy for

[4:22:38] making our streets safer.

[4:22:39] I'm proud to support this item

[4:22:43] and I know that this is only

[4:22:44] one of many tools we can do to

[4:22:48] make our streets safer On

[4:22:54] DECEMBER 21st, 2025 and I will

[4:22:54] one call set things in motion

[4:22:55] after a pedestrian was hit in

[4:22:59] the crosswalk in the corridor

[4:23:00] neighborhood in the suv who

[4:23:04] struck the pedestrian pulled

[4:23:05] over for a second and then took

[4:23:05] off leaving the victim

[4:23:06] seriously injured in the middle

[4:23:10] of the roadway And it was only

[4:23:11] notified to cpd by one of our

[4:23:11] automated license plate readers

[4:23:16] and the smart streetlight They

[4:23:17] caught the collision on camera

[4:23:17] and notified our pd real time

[4:23:22] They were able to dispatch an

[4:23:22] ambulance to the seriously

[4:23:23] injured pedestrian and because

[4:23:24] of a license plate reader they

[4:23:27] were able to catch the hit and

[4:23:28] run driver who stopped notice

[4:23:28] they had seriously injured

[4:23:33] someone and drove away And

[4:23:34] we've seen this as well with

[4:23:34] fatal collision with bicyclist

[4:23:39] as well catching people who

[4:23:40] have who are murdering people

[4:23:41] on the street and leaving And

[4:23:41] so I just want to take

[4:23:45] circulate and others for

[4:23:46] advocating for the responsible

[4:23:47] use of automated license plate

[4:23:48] reader technology because it is

[4:23:52] saving lives even in this way.

[4:23:53] But I do have a question though

[4:23:53] that I get asked often about

[4:23:54] enforcement of speed limits.

[4:24:01] So I see our sergeant is here.

[4:24:02] I get asked by my my my

[4:24:03] neighbors and folks in my

[4:24:03] district all the time about you

[4:24:07] know, people are speeding down

[4:24:08] residential zones and everybody

[4:24:08] want the speed limit or speed

[4:24:09] bump or a stop sign And it

[4:24:10] breaks my heart because often

[4:24:13] these are our neighbors who are

[4:24:14] speeding through our streets.

[4:24:14] But what can we do about our

[4:24:15] enforcement of these new speed

[4:24:18] limits given the police

[4:24:19] department's serious

[4:24:19] constraints and staffing While

[4:24:25] we continue to accept

[4:24:25] suggestions on where to conduct

[4:24:30] enforcement, we have motorcycle

[4:24:31] officers and traffic officers

[4:24:32] who dedicate a lot of time to

[4:24:32] speed enforcement.

[4:24:36] But as you said we don't have

[4:24:37] the resources for every street

[4:24:37] in the city and every school

[4:24:38] zone.

[4:24:42] We're working on getting

[4:24:43] traffic in place and to get it

[4:24:43] done.

[4:24:44] I think that's something that

[4:24:44] we really need to prioritize

[4:24:49] that will allow you citizens

[4:24:49] anybody to submit

[4:24:50] the complaints just like with

[4:24:55] parking complaints and those

[4:24:55] will go to traffic division and

[4:24:56] our more cycle officers our

[4:24:57] traffic officers will be able

[4:24:58] to pull it up on their on their

[4:25:01] phone If they're in

[4:25:02] Northeastern division they

[4:25:02] could see where the complaints

[4:25:03] are and they could update that

[4:25:07] information to go right back to

[4:25:08] the citizen via email or

[4:25:08] however.

[4:25:13] So we have to prioritize based

[4:25:14] on a crash site that we have

[4:25:15] but really citizen complaints

[4:25:19] of people that know their

[4:25:20] neighborhood where the speeding

[4:25:20] is.

[4:25:21] Okay, Thank you very much.

[4:25:22] I will let our constituents

[4:25:26] know what if I get a dozen

[4:25:26] requests and that we are also

[4:25:27] always working with our school

[4:25:28] district saying hey, do you

[4:25:31] have personnel come out and

[4:25:31] help with crosswalks and

[4:25:32] everything?

[4:25:32] But thank you for being here.

[4:25:33] I appreciate all the work you

[4:25:37] do and I'm proud to support

[4:25:37] this motion.

[4:25:38] All right.

[4:25:38] Thank you.

[4:25:38] Council member.

[4:25:39] We'll go next to Council

[4:25:43] PRESIDENT Pro Tem We thank us

[4:25:43] PRESIDENT And thank you to

[4:25:44] the team for your presentation.

[4:25:47] We of course heard this at 80

[4:25:48] So I think I just want to add

[4:25:49] sort of a pragmatic lens to all

[4:25:49] of this.

[4:25:53] You had mentioned that if this

[4:25:54] were to be implemented in the f

[4:25:59] y 27 period that

[4:25:59] the anticipated need in

[4:26:00] the budget would be about $2.4

[4:26:01] million.

[4:26:01] Correct.

[4:26:04] And I think we're one of

[4:26:05] the states and probably even

[4:26:05] the public recognizes that

[4:26:06] given the budgetary constraints

[4:26:10] that we're facing, I'm going to

[4:26:10] even assume that that is going

[4:26:11] to be a tall order And at

[4:26:16] the end of the day we need to

[4:26:16] actually think about a couple

[4:26:17] of factors.

[4:26:17] And so I want to emphasize

[4:26:21] asking that the department as

[4:26:22] you're looking at the potential

[4:26:22] for implementing work with

[4:26:27] the data that we do have

[4:26:27] recognizing that from a

[4:26:28] capacity standpoint you noted

[4:26:29] that we're not being able to

[4:26:30] make all decisions in-house as

[4:26:34] well and some of that would

[4:26:34] have to be set outside.

[4:26:35] I think depending on what we

[4:26:36] are able to allocate in

[4:26:39] the budget we have a bit of

[4:26:40] data throughout the city that I

[4:26:40] think is actually quite helpful

[4:26:41] as we determine what

[4:26:45] the priorities are.

[4:26:46] Some of that might be from

[4:26:47] traffic reports, some of it

[4:26:47] might be from citizen

[4:26:52] complaints but we also have a

[4:26:52] pretty good sense of the most

[4:26:53] dangerous intersections around

[4:26:54] the city And when you tie that

[4:26:58] to nearby school zones I think

[4:26:59] it gives you a sense of

[4:27:03] corridors where traffic and

[4:27:04] speed can be an issue because I

[4:27:05] think like many of my

[4:27:06] colleagues would echo that We

[4:27:10] all recognize that simply

[4:27:11] changing the number on that

[4:27:11] street won't necessarily slow

[4:27:12] the traffic down.

[4:27:16] It's one step but it's going to

[4:27:17] require additional follow up

[4:27:18] Whether that's other traffic

[4:27:22] calming enforcement etc..

[4:27:22] I had a chance to tour Gov

[4:27:28] Drive with a number of

[4:27:29] residents from the University

[4:27:30] Committee planning group

[4:27:30] recently looking at a quarter

[4:27:34] with a number of schools that

[4:27:34] are on it.

[4:27:35] It's the governor drive itself

[4:27:40] is not necessarily considered a

[4:27:41] school zone but what we see is

[4:27:42] that it is adjacent to multiple

[4:27:43] school zones and that's where

[4:27:46] some of the heaviest speeding

[4:27:46] takes place.

[4:27:47] And I still remember a stretch

[4:27:52] between Regents and Genesee

[4:27:53] where there is a flashing sign

[4:27:59] already that notifies you when

[4:27:59] you're speeding on that street.

[4:28:00] And so it's a very good example

[4:28:01] from residents who say well you

[4:28:05] could change that limit down

[4:28:05] doesn't stop people from

[4:28:06] actually speeding on

[4:28:06] the street.

[4:28:10] So I think having a targeted

[4:28:11] sense of what the priorities

[4:28:11] will be in terms of available

[4:28:12] funding and capacity tying that

[4:28:16] to some of our most dangerous

[4:28:17] intersections corridors and

[4:28:17] again prioritizing for schools

[4:28:23] or adjacency to schools I would

[4:28:23] hope gives us at least some

[4:28:24] sense of where we can start

[4:28:24] given whatever funding

[4:28:29] ultimately gets allocated and

[4:28:29] then hopefully we can go from

[4:28:30] there.

[4:28:30] So thank you.

[4:28:35] Otherwise I'll be supporting

[4:28:36] them.

[4:28:36] All right.

[4:28:36] Thank you.

[4:28:37] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

[4:28:38] We'll go next to council member

[4:28:40] Foster Oh yes.

[4:28:41] Thank you Council PRESIDENT And

[4:28:46] thank you for the presentation

[4:28:47] .

[4:28:47] I just really wanted to you

[4:28:48] know, when we heard this I

[4:28:52] didn't previously brought up

[4:28:53] safe routes to school And i

[4:28:54] just want to thank the mayor's

[4:28:59] office, Randi and the staff.

[4:29:00] We had a very what I thought

[4:29:00] was a very productive meeting

[4:29:04] was in a unified school

[4:29:05] district immediately following

[4:29:06] them I want to say it felt like

[4:29:06] it was within days within a

[4:29:10] week and being able to pull

[4:29:11] everyone together to start

[4:29:11] those conversations.

[4:29:12] I just really want to thank you

[4:29:16] for that means a lot to me as

[4:29:17] we are really trying to

[4:29:21] increase safety.

[4:29:22] So thank you for that and that

[4:29:23] concludes my comments.

[4:29:23] All right.

[4:29:23] Thank you.

[4:29:28] Council member Foster Not see

[4:29:29] anybody else on the lights.

[4:29:29] I'll have a few closing

[4:29:34] comments myself to my

[4:29:34] colleagues and thanking all

[4:29:35] the staff at Transportation for

[4:29:35] the work on this.

[4:29:40] This was a pretty significant

[4:29:41] lift in bringing this forward

[4:29:41] and I appreciate the time and

[4:29:42] effort that went into it.

[4:29:45] I appreciate you in

[4:29:46] the commercial districts first

[4:29:47] kind of get the ball rolling

[4:29:48] and then came in to do this

[4:29:48] heavier lift on the remaining

[4:29:52] streets.

[4:29:52] As my colleagues have said, our

[4:29:53] communities are hurting in

[4:29:54] the wake of traffic fatalities.

[4:29:57] We've had three and just in

[4:29:58] 2026 alone, you know, how do

[4:30:03] you explain that to the family

[4:30:03] and to the community?

[4:30:04] One of them the first one we

[4:30:05] actually seem to understand how

[4:30:09] it happened as horrific as it

[4:30:09] was.

[4:30:10] The other two I think are still

[4:30:10] being investigated and we'll

[4:30:15] learn more about that.

[4:30:15] And over the years we've made

[4:30:16] progress towards our vision

[4:30:17] zero goal goals but we know

[4:30:20] there's still a lot more work

[4:30:20] to be done to ensure our

[4:30:21] streets are truly safe for

[4:30:21] everyone.

[4:30:25] Any effort that supports our

[4:30:25] vision zero goals moves us in

[4:30:26] the right direction especially

[4:30:27] given that speed remains a

[4:30:31] leading factor in both fatal

[4:30:32] and serious injury crashes.

[4:30:32] That said, as I think you

[4:30:33] pointed out as my colleagues

[4:30:37] are pointing out, lowering

[4:30:37] speed limits alone is not

[4:30:38] enough to create truly safe

[4:30:43] streets or corridors.

[4:30:44] But these speeds must be paired

[4:30:44] with safety improvements such

[4:30:45] as roundabouts, pedestrian

[4:30:49] refuge islands leading

[4:30:49] pedestrian intervals,

[4:30:50] rectangular rapid flashing

[4:30:51] beacons, hawk systems and more.

[4:30:55] And that's why I appreciate

[4:30:55] the speed management plan takes

[4:30:56] a more comprehensive approach

[4:30:57] by recommending street safety

[4:31:02] improvements along side lower

[4:31:02] speed segments, particularly at

[4:31:03] key safety intersections.

[4:31:06] I also want to recognize your

[4:31:07] willingness to embrace quick

[4:31:08] build projects which allow us

[4:31:09] to make safety improvements

[4:31:13] more efficiently, respond to

[4:31:14] community needs quicker.

[4:31:15] So I look forward to seeing

[4:31:19] this plan come to life.

[4:31:20] Just a couple of comments, a

[4:31:20] couple of which I mentioned at

[4:31:21] the briefing.

[4:31:25] You know there was a lot of

[4:31:26] agony in the public when we

[4:31:27] instituted the day lighting but

[4:31:30] we didn't actually paint

[4:31:31] the curbs around But

[4:31:32] enforcement started when

[4:31:32] the curve was painted red

[4:31:33] because that's what the state

[4:31:36] law said.

[4:31:37] What about reduced speed

[4:31:37] limits?

[4:31:38] Will they be enforced if we

[4:31:42] take action today or with

[4:31:43] the enforcement start only when

[4:31:44] the new signs went up?

[4:31:49] Council PRESIDENT

[4:31:50] The enforcement will start when

[4:31:50] these signs go up.

[4:31:50] Okay great.

[4:31:51] Thank you for stating that on

[4:31:52] the record.

[4:31:55] One of the public haulers

[4:31:55] called in something that we

[4:31:56] didn't really check into

[4:31:57] because it's not entirely

[4:32:00] within our district and that is

[4:32:01] East Mission Bay Drive which I

[4:32:04] believe is currently signed for

[4:32:05] 30 miles an hour and perhaps

[4:32:06] Mission Bay Drive as well.

[4:32:11] That's a very active street.

[4:32:12] It has SROs bicycle use.

[4:32:17] It's also a pretty narrow

[4:32:18] street especially when you have

[4:32:18] roads parked on both sides.

[4:32:19] Given what the plan is in front

[4:32:23] of us today, how do we get a

[4:32:24] consideration of reducing

[4:32:26] the speed limit on East Mason

[4:32:27] and Bay Drive or just even

[4:32:33] Mission Bay Drive?

[4:32:34] >> Council PRESIDENT We can

[4:32:39] still take we can still do

[4:32:40] evaluations as long as

[4:32:40] constituents submit those

[4:32:46] requests for traffic calming we

[4:32:47] could certainly look into to

[4:32:48] see whether hb 43 will also

[4:32:51] apply for that street or that

[4:32:51] corridor.

[4:32:52] So those are still being

[4:32:53] submitted and we do evaluate

[4:32:57] every 7 to 14 years for all

[4:32:58] these streets and that could be

[4:32:59] considered as part of that

[4:33:03] analysis as well.

[4:33:04] Okay.

[4:33:05] That is what might be me but

[4:33:05] I'll go ahead.

[4:33:10] Also occurs to me that a lot of

[4:33:10] that street also has reverse

[4:33:11] parking stalls which you know,

[4:33:15] has its own factor.

[4:33:16] The last thing I'll ask about

[4:33:17] is when I get most recent town

[4:33:21] hall some folks alerted me that

[4:33:22] there is a pilot program in

[4:33:23] the state about speed

[4:33:23] enforcement.

[4:33:26] Maybe this was the governor's

[4:33:27] idea that they measure speed

[4:33:32] enforcement And if you go back

[4:33:33] eight miles per hour over

[4:33:33] the speed limit you just get a

[4:33:34] ticket flat out.

[4:33:39] You know it's not a ticket.

[4:33:39] It's a right to go that fast on

[4:33:40] that street.

[4:33:41] Very clever use of terms as a

[4:33:46] city Looking back on I maybe

[4:33:47] that's a better question.

[4:33:47] We are aware of the state law.

[4:33:50] We have explored it with cpd

[4:33:51] Education Department utilizing

[4:33:52] some of our existing

[4:33:52] technologies like Alpers.

[4:33:56] However, our use policy around

[4:33:57] Alpers prohibits it for only

[4:33:57] for traffic enforcement And so

[4:33:58] you would essentially have to

[4:34:03] explore a different type of

[4:34:03] technology And right now we're

[4:34:04] just not in a position fiscally

[4:34:05] to be able to do that.

[4:34:05] Okay.

[4:34:09] The state didn't bring any

[4:34:10] money in with that new law

[4:34:10] Unfortunately not as I

[4:34:11] suspected.

[4:34:14] But I'm glad.

[4:34:15] Thank you.

[4:34:15] At least we know that you

[4:34:16] looked into it.

[4:34:20] We'll see how future budgets go

[4:34:20] .

[4:34:21] I'll be supporting the motion

[4:34:21] as well.

[4:34:22] Again, thank you all for your

[4:34:27] very, very good work on this.

[4:34:28] So we have a motion by

[4:34:28] Councilmember Whipper in

[4:34:29] the second by council member

[4:34:29] come to you Please call

[4:34:37] the roll Please cast your vote

[4:34:38] And that passes unanimously 8

[4:34:39] to 0 with Councilmember Moreno

[4:34:39] absent.

[4:34:40] Thank you.

[4:34:44] Council PRESIDENT.

[4:34:45] All right.

[4:34:45] Thank you.

[4:34:46] Thanks for coming out.

[4:34:46] Thank you everybody in

[4:34:47] transportation for bringing

[4:34:49] this item forward and to

[4:34:50] the mayor's office as well.

[4:34:51] With that we're not quite done.

[4:34:52] We'll take up non agenda public

[4:34:56] comment.

[4:34:57] Council members respect and

[4:34:57] appreciate the public's input

[4:34:58] and are fully committed to

[4:34:59] protecting every participant's

[4:35:02] free speech rights at council

[4:35:03] and committee meetings.

[4:35:04] Clerk Please proceed with

[4:35:04] public comment.

[4:35:04] Thank you.

[4:35:08] Council PRESIDENT Proposal 2.7

[4:35:08] on public comment is an

[4:35:09] opportunity for members of

[4:35:10] the public to comment on items

[4:35:13] that are not on the agenda but

[4:35:14] within the subject matter

[4:35:15] jurisdiction of the City

[4:35:15] Council.

[4:35:16] Each speaker will have two

[4:35:16] minutes.

[4:35:19] Please note if there are eight

[4:35:19] or more speakers on a single

[4:35:20] topic the maximum time for

[4:35:21] the topic will be 60 Minutes.

[4:35:26] If you're in chambers please

[4:35:27] email your speakers up now and

[4:35:28] if you're joining us virtually

[4:35:28] please is your hand to speak by

[4:35:29] tapping the raise your hand

[4:35:31] icon or if you're calling

[4:35:31] participant Star nine.

[4:35:32] Scott Chipman, are you there?

[4:35:33] I don't see Scott Chipman

[4:35:37] Kathleen Lippert I don't see

[4:35:38] you're here in chambers where

[4:35:38] we come in.

[4:35:43] If you can please come forward

[4:35:44] And I'm sorry we do have a new

[4:35:44] speaker So Anthony rooms for

[4:35:49] the roles of councils If you

[4:35:50] have not spoken before you're

[4:35:50] supposed to be going first.

[4:35:51] So we're going to take a seat

[4:35:52] and Anthony Ross, please come

[4:35:58] forward.

[4:35:58] You'll have two minutes.

[4:35:59] Please proceed.

[4:35:59] Thank you.

[4:35:59] How you doing?

[4:36:00] The council.

[4:36:04] I wanted to start by asking

[4:36:05] Council member Rebel you to

[4:36:05] please show us your

[4:36:09] constituents and the people of

[4:36:10] San Diego more respect by being

[4:36:11] more present when you're here

[4:36:11] in the council chambers.

[4:36:16] I've noticed at least three

[4:36:16] times that I've come on

[4:36:17] occasion this year that you

[4:36:18] haven't been present And one

[4:36:21] time you were on a Zoom meeting

[4:36:22] and there's nothing wrong with

[4:36:22] being on a Zoom meeting but

[4:36:23] when you are here I would ask

[4:36:24] that you please be present in

[4:36:27] the council chambers especially

[4:36:28] considering that I've read that

[4:36:29] you are interested in running

[4:36:29] for mayor.

[4:36:33] So if that is the case that

[4:36:34] will require even more

[4:36:34] responsibility And therefore I

[4:36:39] would ask that you again do

[4:36:39] what your constituent Bob has

[4:36:40] asked and show us in the city

[4:36:40] more respect.

[4:36:45] With that said, I want to move

[4:36:46] on to why I was here today

[4:36:51] which is to talk about security

[4:36:51] cameras, lpr license plate

[4:36:52] readers.

[4:36:52] I particularly wanted to

[4:36:57] address when I was here to

[4:36:58] mention last week I'm not sure

[4:36:59] if you all have had a chance to

[4:37:00] follow up on Operation Road

[4:37:03] Clear which is the report which

[4:37:04] was unveiled at the court

[4:37:09] hearing of my friend Jean Wong

[4:37:09] last week And during that trial

[4:37:14] it was revealed that the dea

[4:37:15] the Department of Homeland

[4:37:15] Investigations and

[4:37:16] the Department of Homeland

[4:37:17] Security as well as ice have

[4:37:20] all colluded to utilize flex

[4:37:21] surveillance technology which I

[4:37:22] was in this council three

[4:37:26] months ago And I heard that

[4:37:26] the police chief I heard him

[4:37:27] make the promise to this

[4:37:28] council that Floc would not be

[4:37:32] utilized to collaborate with

[4:37:32] any of those departments

[4:37:33] outside of cpd and within four

[4:37:34] months time they've already

[4:37:37] broken that promise.

[4:37:38] So I'm asking you all to please

[4:37:39] reconsider Floc technology if

[4:37:43] it was a different company that

[4:37:44] wasn't funded by billionaire

[4:37:51] founder or Deal then I probably

[4:37:51] wouldn't be here having this

[4:37:52] discussion.

[4:37:52] But the fact that it came from

[4:37:56] him means that it is not

[4:37:56] created by somebody with good

[4:37:57] intentions.

[4:37:57] There are other alternative

[4:38:02] aopa all hail hail pr providers

[4:38:02] Please explore them.

[4:38:03] Thank you for that.

[4:38:07] Concluding comment.

[4:38:08] >> Next is Blair Beekman.

[4:38:08] After that will be Bob because

[4:38:12] this came.

[4:38:13] Right.

[4:38:13] Thank you.

[4:38:19] Let me thank you for allowing

[4:38:20] the previous public speaker to

[4:38:20] go first.

[4:38:21] He's a better speaker than

[4:38:25] myself And it's it's a good

[4:38:25] tone to talk about things I can

[4:38:26] better add to this way.

[4:38:27] Thank you.

[4:38:30] Thanks for the meeting today.

[4:38:30] Yeah.

[4:38:34] From his words there are two

[4:38:35] state Democrat Democratic Party

[4:38:40] leaders who have they will not

[4:38:40] be taking money from Clark for

[4:38:45] their campaign endorsements

[4:38:45] this year.

[4:38:46] It was it was offered at a time

[4:38:51] when we are talking about how

[4:38:51] do we deal with our lives in

[4:38:57] this new situation of war and

[4:38:57] these two California state

[4:38:58] representatives.

[4:39:02] I can't you know, very possibly

[4:39:03] Democratic Party leaders at

[4:39:03] the state level.

[4:39:08] They've made the public

[4:39:08] decision.

[4:39:09] They don't have the need

[4:39:10] the money from block to go on

[4:39:10] with their campaigns was I

[4:39:14] think very much signals.

[4:39:14] What I've been trying to

[4:39:15] suggest here is how do we talk

[4:39:19] to each other about our best

[4:39:20] practices?

[4:39:20] We don't have to involve

[4:39:21] ourselves in war to do that.

[4:39:26] Councilperson Brian Wolpert

[4:39:27] offered great questions to

[4:39:27] the police chief today.

[4:39:31] I felt I just really needed

[4:39:32] decent, well reasoned questions

[4:39:37] and if those are the terms we

[4:39:38] work here at the public comment

[4:39:39] are in our city council

[4:39:42] meetings that's that's our good

[4:39:43] stuff That's that's building

[4:39:44] you know, better visioning

[4:39:48] sustainability and peace and

[4:39:48] not war.

[4:39:49] When you see those war things

[4:39:54] come up we have to be wary of

[4:39:55] this time and good steps we're

[4:39:55] taking here to do what I can

[4:39:56] see we can be doing.

[4:40:00] Thank you immensely.

[4:40:05] Yeah I just have so much more

[4:40:06] to say that I have not seen And

[4:40:07] I've got nine seconds left.

[4:40:12] Good luck.

[4:40:13] Vision Zero is a community

[4:40:14] effort are good ideas can be a

[4:40:18] for community up better Thank

[4:40:19] you thank you Bob please keep

[4:40:32] please play my video for Bob

[4:40:33] because this here you're

[4:40:34] watching one of the most

[4:40:36] important videos from my two

[4:40:37] and a half decades of city

[4:40:37] council speeches.

[4:40:38] This video is a mostly

[4:40:42] accelerated clip from the city

[4:40:42] Council meeting of DECEMBER

[4:40:43] 7th, 2010.

[4:40:43] During that speech I was

[4:40:44] describing it beautiful hang

[4:40:47] gliding flight from

[4:40:48] the previous weekend.

[4:40:49] I went on to describe

[4:40:49] the special nature of

[4:40:50] the glider port and

[4:40:53] the mismanagement of that site.

[4:40:54] I pointed out the many problems

[4:40:55] with the commercialization of

[4:40:55] our parks and the settlement

[4:40:58] agreement that had established

[4:40:59] the Torrey Pines City Park

[4:40:59] Advisory Board.

[4:41:00] But this video isn't so

[4:41:04] important for anything I had

[4:41:04] said.

[4:41:05] It's pretty much the same

[4:41:05] things I've been saying for

[4:41:06] nearly two decades.

[4:41:09] What makes this video so

[4:41:10] important is what the newly

[4:41:10] elected COUNCILWOMAN Morris

[4:41:15] said and how her senior

[4:41:16] colleague Sherrie Lightner

[4:41:17] tried to shut her down.

[4:41:17] Lori Zeff had been elected to

[4:41:20] the San Diego City Council

[4:41:20] during the NOVEMBER 2010

[4:41:21] election.

[4:41:23] This video was from DECEMBER

[4:41:24] 7th, just about a month after

[4:41:25] she was elected.

[4:41:28] This would likely have been one

[4:41:29] of the first times that Lori

[4:41:30] Zeff had ever heard one of my

[4:41:30] glider port speeches.

[4:41:34] Let's listen to how innocently

[4:41:34] and enthusiastically Morris

[4:41:35] reacted to my speech and how

[4:41:40] quickly Sherrie Lightner shut

[4:41:40] her down.

[4:41:41] And those are beautiful

[4:41:41] pictures for that two hour

[4:41:42] mayor's office.

[4:41:45] And we'll find out more about

[4:41:50] that David Ross and then Marc

[4:41:51] Lynch shield so she won't MISS

[4:41:55] Out.

[4:41:56] >> I just wanted to make a

[4:41:56] quick comment on the Torrey

[4:42:01] Pines glider report.

[4:42:01] I really have an interest in

[4:42:02] that.

[4:42:02] My husband has similar

[4:42:03] pictures.

[4:42:06] He was a hang glider pilot

[4:42:06] there for many years, took

[4:42:10] tours up and in 1995 I was his

[4:42:11] very last passenger or as he

[4:42:12] called him victims had a

[4:42:15] wonderful flight up there.

[4:42:16] So really this is something

[4:42:17] that is an issue that I be

[4:42:22] interested in.

[4:42:22] >> All right.

[4:42:23] Well, I think that that's great

[4:42:24] because Well and also the issue

[4:42:27] is well in hand and our office

[4:42:27] would be delighted to talk with

[4:42:31] your office about this issue.

[4:42:31] >> But go.

[4:42:36] All right.

[4:42:36] Thank you.

[4:42:37] That does not agenda public

[4:42:41] comment here in council

[4:42:42] chambers.

[4:42:42] I've started the five minute

[4:42:43] timer going to those

[4:42:43] participating remotely.

[4:42:47] We do have speakers that have

[4:42:51] not spoken as of last week

[4:42:51] starting with Harry.

[4:42:56] If you can please unmute.

[4:42:56] Good afternoon.

[4:42:57] Good evening.

[4:42:57] Since we're here already I

[4:43:01] would join to say that we could

[4:43:02] manage San Diego budget.

[4:43:06] We do not have unsolvable

[4:43:07] budget problems.

[4:43:07] The problem is that

[4:43:08] the government is sending

[4:43:13] billions of dollars every day

[4:43:13] to bomb holes, not build them.

[4:43:16] We're sending billions of

[4:43:17] dollars to bomb schools, not

[4:43:18] build them.

[4:43:18] So if our federal partners

[4:43:23] would work more closely with

[4:43:23] the city, we can invest our tax

[4:43:28] money here to fix our roads and

[4:43:28] build homes.

[4:43:29] So until then it's better not

[4:43:33] to have that orange here.

[4:43:34] Pedro Epstein, leader on

[4:43:34] the wall there in the chamber.

[4:43:38] Thank you.

[4:43:39] Next we have Francine Maxwell.

[4:43:46] If you can please unmute

[4:43:47] Francine Maxwell, Southeastern

[4:43:47] San Diego resident I want to

[4:43:51] thank you for the presentation

[4:43:52] as it pertained to sd pd.

[4:43:56] Wonderful press event this past

[4:43:57] week that was shown.

[4:44:02] But I'm concerned that this

[4:44:02] council chooses not to dig

[4:44:03] deeper.

[4:44:06] You don't ask him why There's

[4:44:07] only three Caucasian women that

[4:44:08] are at the rank of captain.

[4:44:11] You don't ask him why

[4:44:11] the highest ranking

[4:44:12] African-American female is a

[4:44:12] detective.

[4:44:16] You're not asking the question

[4:44:17] to make sure that as one of

[4:44:22] the safest biggest cities we're

[4:44:22] diverse.

[4:44:23] Although dni is not a nice word

[4:44:26] to use anymore under this

[4:44:27] administration, it still needs

[4:44:31] to be asked what is going on

[4:44:32] with the bipoc to make our

[4:44:37] community to reflect the police

[4:44:37] department.

[4:44:38] There is not an intentionality.

[4:44:42] There is no females on

[4:44:42] the seventh floor.

[4:44:45] If you don't get another view

[4:44:46] on the seventh floor then it

[4:44:47] lends to skewing.

[4:44:51] Yes people again our officers

[4:44:51] need more.

[4:44:55] They need more wellness built

[4:44:56] in So appreciative of

[4:45:00] the wellness moving from a

[4:45:01] floor that it was on that was

[4:45:01] higher to one of the lowest

[4:45:05] floors so you could slip in.

[4:45:06] If you feel that you don't want

[4:45:06] to be seen again.

[4:45:11] Ask harder questions Bolder

[4:45:11] questions.

[4:45:15] We appreciate every man and

[4:45:16] woman that runs to danger.

[4:45:16] We appreciate the dispatchers

[4:45:20] that answer the calls in

[4:45:20] the midnight hour and on

[4:45:21] the phone.

[4:45:21] But this council you're paid

[4:45:25] like judges so you can throw

[4:45:25] some strikes.

[4:45:26] You don't have to constantly

[4:45:30] softball.

[4:45:30] And those that continue to have

[4:45:31] private meetings with Chief

[4:45:35] Wall why is it that some of

[4:45:35] that information can't be

[4:45:36] shared?

[4:45:36] We have local papers.

[4:45:39] The voice and viewpoint,

[4:45:40] the press, the Indian voices

[4:45:44] use our media mandate records

[4:45:45] dod one radio.

[4:45:45] All of you guys got

[4:45:46] newsletters.

[4:45:50] More information.

[4:45:50] >> More transparency.

[4:45:51] Your time has concluded and

[4:45:52] access Christine Wilburn if you

[4:45:55] can please unmute.

[4:45:55] >> Hi, this is Christine

[4:45:59] Wellborn.

[4:46:00] You know I watch these meetings

[4:46:01] all the time and I can't think

[4:46:04] of the last one where council

[4:46:09] member Shawn Rivera didn't bash

[4:46:09] Trump and say something nasty

[4:46:10] and doesn't the city of San

[4:46:14] Diego have an established code

[4:46:19] of conduct or civility policies

[4:46:19] ,decorum rules, professional

[4:46:20] ethics?

[4:46:20] It's really sad.

[4:46:24] It would be nice to have a

[4:46:24] nonpartisan focus rather than,

[4:46:28] you know, have all this

[4:46:29] divisive rhetoric and hateful

[4:46:29] hateful words.

[4:46:33] I don't like it when our

[4:46:33] PRESIDENT Does it.

[4:46:34] It makes me sick and I don't

[4:46:35] like seeing it at the local

[4:46:35] level.

[4:46:38] And I would just really

[4:46:39] appreciate it if it would be

[4:46:39] tone down, you know, calling

[4:46:42] people fascist pigs and

[4:46:43] everything else.

[4:46:43] It's just not okay.

[4:46:47] So I would appreciate it if you

[4:46:48] would please pay attention to

[4:46:49] that and try to tone it down.

[4:46:52] Thank you.

[4:46:53] >> Have a nice night.

[4:46:57] Our next speaker is a Zoom user

[4:47:02] If you can please unmute extra

[4:47:02] .

[4:47:03] Thanks for taking my call.

[4:47:03] Hey it's cool.

[4:47:04] Haters got to hate man.

[4:47:07] That's what it is.

[4:47:08] We need some diversity on city

[4:47:09] council like a couple of maga

[4:47:12] hats.

[4:47:13] That's what we really need.

[4:47:14] You guys you talking diversity,

[4:47:16] diversity, diversity.

[4:47:17] Where's the maga?

[4:47:17] Come on, man.

[4:47:18] Couple of straight white boys

[4:47:22] up there telling you the truth

[4:47:22] anyway.

[4:47:23] Hey, we know what I'm talking

[4:47:26] about.

[4:47:26] Ice raids.

[4:47:27] When I shows up when Trump is

[4:47:31] done with taking over Cuba,

[4:47:32] he's doing that to the Orange

[4:47:32] fans going after Cuba.

[4:47:37] They're ready to surrender.

[4:47:38] If you turn our attention here,

[4:47:39] he's going to come out as have

[4:47:42] you all investigations and

[4:47:43] the ice raids And we've got to

[4:47:47] have the police department

[4:47:47] protect the protesters.

[4:47:51] I don't want the protesters to

[4:47:52] get hurt.

[4:47:53] You know, that's why with ice.

[4:47:56] So establish a speed limit If

[4:47:57] you're responding to an ice

[4:48:00] raid, you can't go over 50

[4:48:01] miles an hour to get there.

[4:48:05] Just for their safety And don't

[4:48:05] point your car.

[4:48:06] You have some training.

[4:48:10] They don't point your car at an

[4:48:11] ice agent and hit the gas

[4:48:11] because you're going to get

[4:48:14] shot.

[4:48:15] And then try not to kick

[4:48:15] the car.

[4:48:16] Don't throw any pipe bombs like

[4:48:20] those to Muslim guys did.

[4:48:24] Don't make your own pipe bomb

[4:48:25] and throw them around.

[4:48:26] That'd be a good thing not to

[4:48:26] do.

[4:48:29] And then we have the Marine

[4:48:30] Corps protect the ice agents

[4:48:33] and then the police department

[4:48:34] can respond just to protect

[4:48:39] the protesters from themselves

[4:48:39] .

[4:48:40] And you might want to tell that

[4:48:40] one girl that took over

[4:48:44] the mayor's office with

[4:48:45] the blue hair man, she's pretty

[4:48:45] angry.

[4:48:49] She even broke the law when she

[4:48:49] was on probation.

[4:48:50] You might want to put a check

[4:48:51] on her somewhere.

[4:48:53] I know you guys probably know

[4:48:54] her, but she's she's getting

[4:48:54] pushing the envelope there.

[4:48:58] Have a good day, guys.

[4:48:59] Thank you.

[4:48:59] Next is Peggy Walker.

[4:49:03] If you can please unmute.

[4:49:08] Good evening Council.

[4:49:12] Sorry In item 200 it was

[4:49:13] mentioned that drugs are a

[4:49:13] number one crime against

[4:49:16] society in our city and in that

[4:49:17] context So it's important that

[4:49:18] last week it was reported that

[4:49:21] more than 100 pounds of

[4:49:26] suspected illegal intoxicating

[4:49:27] products were seized during a

[4:49:28] crackdown on unlawful drug

[4:49:31] sales at four vape and smoke

[4:49:32] shops in the single city of

[4:49:33] Oceanside.

[4:49:36] I bring this here because

[4:49:37] the Oceanside operation

[4:49:41] highlights the fact that

[4:49:41] underscored by local

[4:49:42] assessments these illegal and

[4:49:46] toxic eating products are

[4:49:47] increasingly sold in smoke vape

[4:49:51] and convenience stores in San

[4:49:51] Diego and across our region.

[4:49:55] The seized items included

[4:49:56] vaping devices and products

[4:50:00] containing unregulated

[4:50:00] substances such as Kratom,

[4:50:06] psilocybin and thc.

[4:50:07] According to law enforcement

[4:50:07] involved in this seizure in

[4:50:11] the seizure, those locations

[4:50:12] police, the Sheriff's office,

[4:50:12] dea and Naval Criminal

[4:50:16] Investigative Service.

[4:50:17] These intoxicating products are

[4:50:21] often mislabeled.

[4:50:21] A dea spokesman warned that

[4:50:24] vaping devices popular among

[4:50:25] young people pose a growing

[4:50:26] public safety concern, noting

[4:50:30] consumer shows often have no

[4:50:31] idea what these substances MAY

[4:50:31] contain.

[4:50:36] These products that are

[4:50:36] mislabeled.

[4:50:37] Law enforcement has been

[4:50:40] warning about the risk of these

[4:50:41] uncontrolled mislabeled

[4:50:41] products many marketed and

[4:50:46] packages to pop to you And I

[4:50:46] urge you to encourage similar

[4:50:50] vigilance and work with law

[4:50:54] enforcement to ensure that

[4:50:55] unauthorized drug products are

[4:50:56] not sold in our city.

[4:50:56] Thank you.

[4:51:00] Thank you.

[4:51:01] The five minute timer has

[4:51:01] concluded and no additional

[4:51:02] speakers will be taken that do

[4:51:03] not have their hand raised.

[4:51:05] We have eight speakers and

[4:51:06] again like I said, no

[4:51:06] additional speakers will be

[4:51:07] taken.

[4:51:07] Judy Strang if you can please

[4:51:11] unmute.

[4:51:12] >> Good evening City Council

[4:51:17] Thank you for this opportunity

[4:51:17] to share my thoughts.

[4:51:18] I appreciated the information

[4:51:21] about the lowering of speed

[4:51:25] limits and the respect for

[4:51:26] human life that that seems to

[4:51:26] indicate.

[4:51:30] I also wanted to share with you

[4:51:31] that one of our most important

[4:51:35] nation wide groups regarding

[4:51:36] tobacco use prevention for

[4:51:40] young people called the truth

[4:51:41] Initiative indicated that eight

[4:51:45] of the ten films nominated for

[4:51:46] Best Picture did quite a

[4:51:46] depiction of cigaret and

[4:51:49] nicotine products in their

[4:51:50] movies indicating that it was

[4:51:54] cool somehow or another.

[4:51:55] This gets to be important to us

[4:51:59] who work in prevention and with

[4:52:00] young people because we know

[4:52:04] that nicotine products used for

[4:52:08] 12th graders increased from 17%

[4:52:08] to 22% just in the last year

[4:52:09] 2024, 2025.

[4:52:13] The trouble with that type of

[4:52:14] imagery that happened within

[4:52:17] these movies is that it makes

[4:52:18] it difficult for those who are

[4:52:19] trying to quit to quit

[4:52:22] successfully as one would

[4:52:22] guess.

[4:52:23] But it also suggests to our

[4:52:27] young people that the adult

[4:52:28] world is okay with it.

[4:52:31] I just like to point out how

[4:52:32] important it is what our adult

[4:52:33] population signals to young

[4:52:37] people has value and to look

[4:52:38] carefully at decisions we make

[4:52:42] regarding tobacco, marijuana

[4:52:42] and alcohol use that indicates

[4:52:46] to young adults that this use

[4:52:47] does not have consequences when

[4:52:51] we so clearly know as adults

[4:52:52] that it does.

[4:52:52] >> Thank you.

[4:52:56] Thank you.

[4:52:57] Next is the original if you can

[4:52:57] please.

[4:53:01] And you.

[4:53:02] Yeah of course This is going to

[4:53:02] come down the pike to be used

[4:53:05] for enforcement.

[4:53:06] It's already being used in

[4:53:06] other countries and you guys

[4:53:10] are in lockstep with the United

[4:53:11] Nations so you're going to

[4:53:11] change your policies or

[4:53:15] whatever in order to be able to

[4:53:16] do that.

[4:53:16] It's going to even keep people

[4:53:19] out of say low emission zones

[4:53:20] or whatever.

[4:53:20] And it's interesting to hear

[4:53:21] you guys talk about public

[4:53:24] safety and really wanting to

[4:53:25] make sure that people don't die

[4:53:25] or get hurt.

[4:53:29] But then I wonder why you

[4:53:30] didn't act when there were

[4:53:31] times that you could have like

[4:53:34] Steven Weber Why were you

[4:53:35] laughing at me when I'm telling

[4:53:35] you about a woman that died and

[4:53:38] all the other people who have

[4:53:43] died at Tent City or been raped

[4:53:43] ?

[4:53:48] Champa Why did you not care

[4:53:48] about the little five year old

[4:53:49] who was raped in her own

[4:53:53] bedroom by an illegal alien?

[4:53:53] I know it's because it's an

[4:53:54] illegal that did it but I'm

[4:53:57] just wondering would it matter

[4:53:58] to you if it was your child who

[4:54:02] whose bedroom had been entered

[4:54:03] into and your child was raped?

[4:54:04] Would it matter then?

[4:54:04] Probably.

[4:54:07] And then Arabella McCormick

[4:54:07] it's like you guys think

[4:54:08] spending $30 million makes it

[4:54:12] better that she died and was 48

[4:54:12] pounds and everybody neglected

[4:54:17] to act on her behalf?

[4:54:18] You know there's so many things

[4:54:22] Then you guys support pedophile

[4:54:22] like you guys are supporting

[4:54:23] Scott Wiener all the time.

[4:54:26] He has sex with children.

[4:54:27] Then we sit here and we talk

[4:54:27] about anti-Semitic stuff and

[4:54:28] it's like you guys support

[4:54:31] people whose Talmud or their

[4:54:32] Bible talks about children

[4:54:35] having sex with children and

[4:54:36] then also the penises of

[4:54:37] children who have been

[4:54:40] circumcised.

[4:54:41] Many children have died from

[4:54:42] that in fact from getting

[4:54:42] herpes.

[4:54:43] And then you guys encourage

[4:54:46] children to mutilate their

[4:54:47] bodies and actually toxic by

[4:54:51] their bodies with hormones that

[4:54:51] should not don't belong in

[4:54:52] their bodies because you

[4:54:56] encourage that And then also

[4:54:56] like sexualization of children

[4:54:57] in school and like reading

[4:55:01] books that are like

[4:55:01] pornographic.

[4:55:02] So I'm just wondering if you're

[4:55:03] going to care about those

[4:55:05] things too.

[4:55:06] >> Our next speaker is Barbara

[4:55:06] Gordon.

[4:55:10] Good evening.

[4:55:11] I am a public health advocate

[4:55:12] with so many needs in this city

[4:55:15] and with budget shortages I

[4:55:16] respectfully request the city

[4:55:20] not implement the seed program.

[4:55:21] The seed program is not

[4:55:24] sustainable long term without

[4:55:25] impacting the already strained

[4:55:25] city resources.

[4:55:30] San Diego already has 38

[4:55:31] marijuana businesses.

[4:55:34] Why are we looking to expand

[4:55:35] the number of these businesses

[4:55:36] in the name of social equity as

[4:55:39] the city struggles with

[4:55:40] homelessness?

[4:55:41] Many peer review studies show

[4:55:44] that marijuana use contributes

[4:55:45] to drug abuse and addiction

[4:55:48] which are the leading cause of

[4:55:49] homelessness.

[4:55:49] The latest 2024 national survey

[4:55:54] on drug use and help estimates

[4:55:58] 32% of the 64 million passed

[4:56:01] year marijuana users 12 years

[4:56:02] and older in America have

[4:56:02] cannabis use disorder.

[4:56:06] That number of Americans

[4:56:10] addicted to marijuana comes to

[4:56:10] over 20 million people.

[4:56:11] The profit driven marijuana

[4:56:15] industry continues to produce

[4:56:16] and promote stronger products

[4:56:20] that are addicting Millions and

[4:56:20] distract, distracting and

[4:56:21] disturbing their lives.

[4:56:25] Marijuana use linked to

[4:56:26] doubling the risk of psychosis

[4:56:26] bipolar disorder.

[4:56:30] This is all published in

[4:56:31] the Journal of American Medical

[4:56:31] Health Forum.

[4:56:34] I urge the Council to not

[4:56:35] prioritize this industry over

[4:56:39] the many needs of the city.

[4:56:40] Your focus and responsibility

[4:56:43] is public health and safety.

[4:56:44] Not advocating for more

[4:56:45] marijuana businesses in our

[4:56:49] city.

[4:56:50] >> Thank you for letting me

[4:56:50] speak.

[4:56:50] Thank you.

[4:56:51] Next is Ernie Castro.

[4:56:56] If you can please unmute.

[4:56:56] >> Hello.

[4:56:57] Ernie Castro, La Hoya resident

[4:57:01] Torrey Pines Glider Park.

[4:57:02] It is illegal for anyone

[4:57:06] including your leaseholder to

[4:57:07] turn our freedom into an access

[4:57:07] pass and a waiver for a license

[4:57:08] and a fee.

[4:57:11] What city liabilities are

[4:57:12] already covered by California

[4:57:15] recreational laws?

[4:57:16] This is insurance fraud and

[4:57:17] misappropriation of public

[4:57:17] funding.

[4:57:20] Going into private accounts

[4:57:20] which demands a full

[4:57:21] transparent city audit that

[4:57:26] would end corruption within

[4:57:26] Torrey Pines Sky Report.

[4:57:27] We have a unanimous letter of

[4:57:30] support from La Hoya Town

[4:57:31] Council and La Hoya Shore's

[4:57:35] Association to permanently

[4:57:35] reconvene the Torrey Pines

[4:57:36] Advisory Board But the Torrey

[4:57:40] Pines Advisory Board

[4:57:40] historically allowed this to

[4:57:41] continue.

[4:57:41] It is irresponsible for City

[4:57:45] council to put Torrey Pines

[4:57:46] glider part in the hands of

[4:57:50] the advisory board That doesn't

[4:57:51] even exist anymore.

[4:57:54] It is City Council's job first

[4:57:54] to stop the crime and then

[4:57:55] reconvene the advisory board.

[4:57:59] You have a proving working

[4:57:59] solution known as the San Diego

[4:58:03] Recreational waiver that

[4:58:04] legally curiosity liability is

[4:58:08] isolated safety concerns and

[4:58:09] restores recreational freedoms

[4:58:10] back to normal.

[4:58:13] The San Diego Recreation waiver

[4:58:14] stops the illegal collection of

[4:58:15] funds going into private

[4:58:19] accounts by separating the city

[4:58:19] business from normal public

[4:58:23] free access yet allow

[4:58:24] the business to start paying

[4:58:25] their own bills operating like

[4:58:28] every other business in parks

[4:58:29] and lands.

[4:58:29] It breaks the ongoing

[4:58:34] corruption at the glory of port

[4:58:34] management.

[4:58:35] Police reports provide justice

[4:58:38] for victims and witnesses.

[4:58:39] There are common business laws

[4:58:43] to protect the public on how

[4:58:44] businesses should be run in

[4:58:44] public parks and lands.

[4:58:48] It's a win for city council

[4:58:48] liabilities.

[4:58:52] It is in common contract laws

[4:58:52] that legally restores our

[4:58:53] recreational rights and years

[4:58:57] for for years to come.

[4:58:58] >> Thank you.

[4:58:59] Madison If you can please

[4:59:02] unmute after that will be done.

[4:59:06] Madison please email.

[4:59:06] >> Hi.

[4:59:07] Good evening City Council

[4:59:07] members.

[4:59:10] I have three young children.

[4:59:11] I often think about how much

[4:59:12] care goes into protecting a

[4:59:15] baby before that child is even

[4:59:15] born.

[4:59:16] Pregnant women are told to

[4:59:19] watch what they eat, what

[4:59:20] medications they take and what

[4:59:21] substances they avoid because

[4:59:25] those early months matter So

[4:59:26] much for a child's development.

[4:59:26] This is why I think it's

[4:59:30] important to pay attention to

[4:59:31] what the medical community is

[4:59:31] saying about cannabis use

[4:59:32] during pregnancy.

[4:59:35] In OCTOBER 2025 the American

[4:59:36] College of Obstetricians and

[4:59:40] Gynecologists updated its

[4:59:41] clinical guidance and stated

[4:59:41] that cannabis use during

[4:59:44] pregnancy has been associated

[4:59:45] with serious risks including

[4:59:49] spontaneous preterm birth, low

[4:59:50] birth weight and developmental

[4:59:50] delay.

[4:59:54] As marijuana becomes more

[4:59:54] socially accepted and

[4:59:58] normalized and easier to access

[4:59:59] ,many women MAY assume it is

[5:00:00] harmless because it is often

[5:00:04] described as a natural or even

[5:00:04] promoted as a way to help with

[5:00:05] stress or nausea.

[5:00:09] But doctors are very clear that

[5:00:09] there are no medical

[5:00:10] indications for cannabis use

[5:00:13] during pregnancy or during

[5:00:14] the postpartum period.

[5:00:17] Thc crosses the placenta

[5:00:18] meaning a developing baby is

[5:00:19] exposed during critical stages

[5:00:22] of growth when the brain and

[5:00:23] body are especially vulnerable.

[5:00:27] Mothers deserve honest

[5:00:27] information.

[5:00:28] If we are serious about

[5:00:29] protecting maternal and child

[5:00:32] health then public policy

[5:00:33] should reflect the medical

[5:00:33] evidence showing prenatal

[5:00:37] cannabis use is dangerous.

[5:00:37] Not the marketing narrative.

[5:00:41] Thank you.

[5:00:42] >> Thank you.

[5:00:42] Thank you.

[5:00:47] On the stump and then at 8700

[5:00:48] and our last speaker is Becky

[5:00:48] Rupp.

[5:00:50] >> Thank you very much.

[5:00:56] And I watched and participated

[5:01:01] in the appeal and I am too old

[5:01:05] to that appeal occurred because

[5:01:06] someone file one sheet of paper

[5:01:09] and paid $2,000 and they

[5:01:14] delayed the decision by some

[5:01:14] five months.

[5:01:18] And it's not over yet.

[5:01:22] Now the city staff has issued a

[5:01:23] notice of determination that

[5:01:28] exam aims dangerous activities

[5:01:33] within Los Dose Preserve.

[5:01:34] They're going to allow

[5:01:37] the conversion of the parking

[5:01:38] lot into a new use as a

[5:01:42] heliport.

[5:01:43] They don't tell us they keeping

[5:01:47] secret how many flights in and

[5:01:48] out they're going to be or what

[5:01:48] routes they're going to take.

[5:01:52] I can assure you that the noise

[5:01:53] and downdraft of helicopter

[5:01:57] flights affects birds and other

[5:01:58] animals particularly during

[5:02:02] the planned nesting season.

[5:02:03] Please council have them

[5:02:07] withdraw that notice of

[5:02:12] determination and begin to work

[5:02:13] on it because otherwise we're

[5:02:16] delaying a project which is

[5:02:17] important and I support because

[5:02:21] they didn't do the right

[5:02:22] environmental analysis.

[5:02:22] They didn't look at

[5:02:26] the literature and they don't

[5:02:27] know are keeping secret how

[5:02:31] many flights and what

[5:02:31] the flight path is going to be

[5:02:36] for sd g And these helicopters

[5:02:37] through the logs and

[5:02:40] the skeeters preserve that is

[5:02:41] an environmentally sensitive

[5:02:45] area and they have taken an

[5:02:46] exemption for a parking lot not

[5:02:46] a sensitive area.

[5:02:49] Please help them withdraw it.

[5:02:54] >> Thank you.

[5:02:55] >> It is 700 if you can please

[5:02:55] unmute.

[5:03:03] After that we pick you up.

[5:03:07] Thank you Joyce And the other

[5:03:07] three three different topics.

[5:03:11] First of all I want to speak to

[5:03:15] a shout out for a park staff

[5:03:16] member today that I happened to

[5:03:17] chat with on my way to get

[5:03:20] coffee.

[5:03:20] He was so wonderful.

[5:03:25] He was just getting out of his

[5:03:25] truck over by Children's Park

[5:03:30] and I just want to compliment

[5:03:31] and thank our all of our park

[5:03:35] employees and the director for

[5:03:35] what they do for our parks.

[5:03:39] They're just so appreciated and

[5:03:39] valued.

[5:03:44] I also want to chat about I

[5:03:44] want to recommend that

[5:03:49] the public read the article.

[5:03:53] I think it was I don't remember

[5:03:54] what day it was very recently

[5:03:58] yesterday or the day before or

[5:03:59] Friday on the pension payment

[5:04:03] that's now been decided and

[5:04:04] it's higher than last year much

[5:04:08] higher and I just can't you

[5:04:09] know the pension crisis has

[5:04:09] challenged me.

[5:04:13] I started in oh four when we

[5:04:14] were in run by the c because of

[5:04:18] the pension debacle And I have

[5:04:18] not been able to understand

[5:04:19] the system all these years.

[5:04:22] But this article helped me to

[5:04:23] begin to really make some big

[5:04:28] cracks in it And so Budget

[5:04:28] Committee But you've got to

[5:04:32] help the people understand

[5:04:33] what's going on with

[5:04:33] the pension pension system and

[5:04:37] how it impacts our budget.

[5:04:38] And then one other thing I may

[5:04:41] go over to a city clerk.

[5:04:46] I Googled about India and how

[5:04:47] India was able to be so

[5:04:51] effective to get their digital

[5:04:56] divide stopped or not helped

[5:04:56] and I just can't recommend

[5:05:02] enough that I.T and any but

[5:05:02] there's an item coming up I

[5:05:06] believe very soon on it and

[5:05:07] your time just concluded sorry

[5:05:13] Becky wrap your final speaker.

[5:05:14] >> Good evening my name is

[5:05:14] Becky Rapp and first I want to

[5:05:17] thank the council for today's

[5:05:18] discussion on the recent crime

[5:05:19] briefing And I'd also like to

[5:05:23] express my appreciation to

[5:05:24] the San Diego Police Department

[5:05:24] for the hard work they do every

[5:05:27] day to keep our communities

[5:05:28] safe.

[5:05:28] Our officers are often asked to

[5:05:32] respond to incredibly complex

[5:05:33] situations and many of those

[5:05:37] situations involve behavioral

[5:05:38] health challenges.

[5:05:38] As mentioned earlier,

[5:05:39] behavioral health is a very

[5:05:42] real and growing issue in our

[5:05:43] city and San Diego continues to

[5:05:43] face a severe shortage of

[5:05:47] behavioral health services.

[5:05:47] Too often our police officers

[5:05:51] are placed on the front lines

[5:05:52] of crises and would be at a

[5:05:53] crisis that would be better

[5:05:56] handle with trained

[5:05:57] professionals And we ask a

[5:05:58] great deal of our officers and

[5:06:02] they deserve to have the proper

[5:06:02] resources and experts available

[5:06:06] to support them as the Council

[5:06:07] considers proposals to expand

[5:06:07] the social equity cannabis

[5:06:11] program by adding 36 additional

[5:06:12] retail marijuana permits

[5:06:12] potentially doubling the number

[5:06:16] of pot shops in our city.

[5:06:17] I believe it would be helpful

[5:06:17] for the public and for

[5:06:21] policymakers to see a clear

[5:06:22] cost analysis Specifically how

[5:06:25] much city funding staff time

[5:06:26] and administrative resources

[5:06:26] would be required to support

[5:06:30] and expansion of the marijuana

[5:06:34] industry compared to investing

[5:06:35] those same resources into

[5:06:35] behavioral health services and

[5:06:39] professionals who could work

[5:06:40] alongside our first responders

[5:06:44] At a time when San Diego is

[5:06:45] already facing difficult budget

[5:06:45] decisions, it's critical that

[5:06:48] we carefully evaluate where our

[5:06:49] limited resources will make

[5:06:50] the greatest impact

[5:06:53] strengthening behavioral health

[5:06:54] infrastructure would directly

[5:06:55] support public safety.

[5:06:59] Our officers and the long term

[5:06:59] well-being of our entire city.

[5:07:04] Thank them.

[5:07:04] Thank you.

[5:07:05] This does conclude knowledge

[5:07:05] and a public comment for

[5:07:06] today's meeting.

[5:07:09] All right.

[5:07:10] Thank you, City Clerk.

[5:07:10] Does the city attorney have

[5:07:11] anything to report out from

[5:07:11] closed session?

[5:07:14] There's no report out from

[5:07:14] closed session.

[5:07:15] >> All right.

[5:07:15] Thank you for that.

[5:07:18] Lastly, we will now adjourn

[5:07:19] council to the regularly

[5:07:19] scheduled council meeting on

[5:07:21] Tuesday MARCH 17th, 2026 at 10

[5:07:21] A.M..

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