[0:00] the 2:00 afternoon session.

[0:00] So again, thank you to all of

[0:04] you for your patience here.

[0:05] I know some of you are here for

[0:08] the very, very first time So

[0:09] all right, we're ready.

[0:10] Kevin All right.

[0:10] Good morning.

[0:13] I will now call the city

[0:14] Council meeting of Tuesday,

[0:14] JUNE 23rd, 2026 to order Deputy

[0:19] Clerk please call the roll.

[0:19] Councilmember Campbell here.

[0:23] Council member Whitburn here

[0:23] Council Member Foster here

[0:24] Council Member Von Weber

[0:28] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

[0:28] Council Member Campo here

[0:32] Council Member Moreno Present

[0:33] Council member Eli Rivera and

[0:33] Council Member Council

[0:37] PRESIDENT LaCava present.

[0:38] Also attending the meeting are

[0:39] Chief Deputy City Attorney

[0:42] Melissa Ables, Independent

[0:43] Budget Analyst Charles Mollica

[0:44] Council Affairs Advisor in

[0:48] the Mayor's office Kota Sizer

[0:49] and myself your Deputy City

[0:52] Clerk Kevin Smith All right,

[0:53] thank you for that.

[0:53] A quorum is now present.

[0:56] We will begin this morning with

[0:57] the land acknowledgment and

[0:57] the Pledge of Allegiance led by

[0:58] Council member Whitburn.

[1:04] So if you would please stand we

[1:10] respectfully acknowledge that

[1:11] the committee should are

[1:11] the original inhabitants of

[1:12] the Unceded land.

[1:14] I know to San Diego.

[1:14] Despite enduring the horrors of

[1:15] genocide and colonization,

[1:18] the Holy Spirit remains

[1:18] unbroken.

[1:19] We honor the resilience of

[1:20] their ancestors who fought to

[1:23] protect their culture and land

[1:24] Today they carry their legacy

[1:24] forward ensuring that their

[1:28] traditions continue to thrive

[1:28] and gratitude and strength We

[1:29] stand with the combination

[1:33] connected to our past and

[1:33] committed to a thriving future.

[1:38] Please face the flag Hand over

[1:38] your heart.

[1:38] Ready?

[1:39] Begin.

[1:42] I pledge allegiance to the flag

[1:42] of the United States of America

[1:47] and to the Republic for which

[1:47] it stands One nation under GOD

[1:51] indivisible with liberty and

[1:56] justice for all.

[1:56] All right.

[2:01] Deputy Clerk please go over how

[2:01] the public can offer their

[2:02] testimony.

[2:02] They will now highlight

[2:05] the slide on the screen that

[2:06] reviews how the public can

[2:10] offer their public testimony

[2:24] during today's meeting.

[2:25] I'll summarize the slide on

[2:25] the screen.

[2:29] Please note that the time

[2:30] allocations for proclamations

[2:31] and consent items for meeting

[2:34] management purpose purposes

[2:35] the order can be found on

[2:36] the agenda summary found on

[2:36] line or at the table in

[2:40] the back of the room.

[2:40] If you are in person please

[2:41] complete a speaker slip located

[2:44] at the entrance of chambers and

[2:44] bring it to the front of

[2:45] the room.

[2:45] Council ambassadors are

[2:49] available near the entrance of

[2:50] this room and can assist with

[2:54] questions and speaker slips.

[2:55] No further in-person testimony

[2:56] will be taken once the City

[2:57] Council begins virtual

[3:02] testimony.

[3:03] All right.

[3:03] Thank you.

[3:04] With that we will now dispense

[3:07] with the approval of

[3:07] the proclamation items.

[3:08] Deputy Clerk Please proceed

[3:12] with public comment.

[3:13] The public comment period for

[3:13] the proclamation items is now

[3:14] open.

[3:16] Each speaker will have one

[3:17] minute per item per person.

[3:18] If you would like to speak on

[3:18] three or more items you will

[3:21] have a maximum of three

[3:21] minutes.

[3:22] The proclamation items being

[3:26] approved are items 3031 sw 500

[3:30] and 504.

[3:31] >> >> We will begin with

[3:36] in-person public comment.

[3:40] Jason Cox Please come forward.

[3:41] You'll have one minute to speak

[3:49] on items five and four.

[3:49] Good morning everybody.

[3:50] I'm speaking today as a

[3:53] resident of Oak Park and a

[3:54] frequent patron of the Oak Park

[3:54] Library.

[3:57] I probably been down there five

[3:58] times for books, maybe 15 or 10

[3:58] for community events but

[4:02] the rest for Mark Davis.

[4:03] I want to say he's gone far

[4:04] beyond what it means to be a

[4:07] librarian.

[4:08] And I would want to call out

[4:09] was active role in supporting

[4:10] the community be it friends of

[4:13] the library or the Oak Park

[4:14] Youth Core and see that he's

[4:14] been exceptional.

[4:17] But what I really want to

[4:17] highlight today is the fact

[4:18] that for Mark it has never been

[4:19] exceptional.

[4:22] It's just a Tuesday.

[4:23] I've never seen someone so

[4:27] professional, so nonchalant and

[4:27] yet so compassionate and

[4:31] helpful at the same time.

[4:32] He has proven that pragmatism

[4:33] does not preclude activism and

[4:36] in doing so rather than

[4:36] exceeding the standards for

[4:41] librarians, he's lifted them up

[4:42] to his He's the quintessence of

[4:46] what it means to be a librarian

[4:47] in the 21st century and he's a

[4:47] true public servant.

[4:50] I hope he can serve as a model

[4:51] for all those who come after

[4:52] him and we're truly sad to see

[4:54] him go.

[4:58] Thank you for your comment.

[4:59] >> Our next speaker is Lisa

[5:04] Solis.

[5:05] >> This is Lisa Solis.

[5:09] You do have time ceded to you

[5:10] by one other individual.

[5:14] Eric Bana Tao, are you here?

[5:15] Could you raise your hand,

[5:15] please?

[5:16] Oh, thank you very much.

[5:18] You will have a total of two

[5:19] minutes.

[5:19] >> Good morning.

[5:23] Good morning, City Council.

[5:24] And on behalf of Bird Rock

[5:25] Elementary School, I'm Eric

[5:28] Bana, our school principal.

[5:29] On behalf of the whole entire

[5:33] staff, the community and our

[5:33] students we are excited and

[5:34] happy that you can acknowledge

[5:37] our 75th anniversary.

[5:38] And with that we have a little

[5:38] bit of a serenade for you.

[5:41] But first let me introduce our

[5:42] music teacher MS..

[5:45] Solis.

[5:46] Good morning.

[5:47] We're so excited to be here as

[5:50] Sioux City Council today.

[5:51] We have our students here.

[5:52] When I found out that we were

[5:55] having this celebration I

[5:56] thought it was really important

[5:57] for everybody to know that we

[6:01] are Pelican's River pelicans.

[6:05] Our our our how do you say our

[6:06] motto are we have what's that

[6:10] called The person The Pelican.

[6:11] Our slogan Our slogan is

[6:12] the Pelican And we are not

[6:16] pelican.

[6:16] We are pelicans and we love DR.

[6:17] Barnett.

[6:20] Well, we call him DR. At Bird

[6:21] Rock.

[6:21] So you'll hear him mentioned in

[6:22] this song And I have today with

[6:25] me a very Talia, Petra and

[6:26] Campbell and they're going to

[6:28] be singing our song.

[6:39] It's great to be a pelican and

[6:44] creatively again we find that

[6:50] again and again Got to be

[6:51] the way be jazz and get this

[6:55] every day we live we learn, we

[7:00] give and play We dance and sing

[7:05] The pelicans where we live we

[7:06] learn wages and we dance and

[7:11] sing and let them tell you why

[7:16] The pelicans we're not going

[7:34] anywhere And the Pelican Land

[7:35] Thank you.

[7:36] Our next speaker is James

[7:38] Savage.

[7:44] James speaking on item 34

[7:49] Pollinator Week James c of Yes

[7:54] 09090 sorry I couldn't read

[7:54] James apologize.

[7:55] No worries.

[7:55] Well I wanted to thank Council

[7:59] PRESIDENT LaCava and

[8:00] the members of the City Council

[8:01] Thank you today for recognizing

[8:04] Pollinator Week 2026 As someone

[8:05] who studies bees and

[8:09] representing the city of San

[8:09] Diego Obesity Initiative,

[8:10] pollinators are not just a

[8:14] symbol of nature they are part

[8:14] of our working infrastructure

[8:15] of healthy ecosystems In San

[8:19] Diego they support canyons,

[8:19] parks, gardens, native plants

[8:24] and even food and therefore

[8:25] they're really valuable part of

[8:25] our city.

[8:26] And I'm especially grateful

[8:29] that the city has taken

[8:30] the leadership role in

[8:31] the mayor's monarch pledge and

[8:31] particularly for supporting

[8:35] Edie 2254 the Monarch

[8:35] Protection Bill protecting

[8:40] Monarch Overwintering habitats

[8:41] in our California coast is

[8:45] exactly the kind of practical

[8:46] science based action that can

[8:46] make a real difference.

[8:47] So I think pollinator

[8:51] protection with the city's help

[8:52] is not just abstract We can

[8:53] dedicate ourselves to reducing

[8:56] chemicals, to planting

[8:57] biodiverse water, drought

[9:02] tolerant native plants and

[9:03] bringing our actions to make a

[9:03] real difference.

[9:04] >> Thank you for helping San

[9:05] Diego take the lead in this.

[9:11] Thank you.

[9:12] >> Our next speaker is Max

[9:12] Schmidt.

[9:27] Max Schmidt your final slip to

[9:30] speak to items 31 s 505 before

[9:31] so you will have a total of

[9:32] three minutes.

[9:32] >> Hi.

[9:36] I just wanted to say that I'm

[9:37] strongly opposed to all of

[9:42] these on new dates on we've got

[9:42] JUNE 22nd to 28th pollinator

[9:47] week JUNE 30th Shawna Anderson

[9:52] Day on JUNE AUGUST 26th Bird

[9:52] Rock Elementary Day JUNE 25th

[9:53] Mark Davis Day I'm opposed to

[9:58] all of those days strongly

[9:58] opposed to them very, very

[9:59] strongly, strongly opposed to

[10:03] them.

[10:03] And the reason why is because

[10:04] all they are are distractions

[10:08] and cover ups for

[10:09] the underground Catholic

[10:38] genocide to something or if I'm

[10:43] for something I'm about to say

[10:44] the reason I'm opposed to

[10:44] certain something I know my

[10:48] rights and the reason I'm

[10:49] opposed to these dates is

[10:53] because in my opinion with my

[10:53] First Amendment right I believe

[10:54] that they are cover up for a

[10:55] Catholic genocide happening in

[10:59] San Diego where people are

[11:00] being driven completely crazy

[11:04] and driven to suicide and and

[11:05] driven to drugs by being

[11:06] constantly surrounded by

[11:06] Freemasons who are telepathic,

[11:11] who've done hermetic chants in

[11:12] Masonic Lodge to become

[11:12] telepathic Freemasons surround

[11:17] Catholics and speak gibberish

[11:18] nonstop while saying their

[11:18] thoughts out loud to try to

[11:19] drive them crazy mentally ill

[11:24] suicidal into drugs And there's

[11:25] an underground genocide in that

[11:26] for city council to say like we

[11:30] support human rights and we

[11:30] support on all these human

[11:31] rights issues they're phonies

[11:36] if they support human rights

[11:37] then why are they covering up

[11:37] the Catholic genocide?

[11:38] And I know my first minute

[11:42] rights and I feel a little

[11:42] frustrated I was interrupted

[11:43] because if I come here and

[11:44] spend my time and say if I'm

[11:47] opposed to an issue I have

[11:48] the right to say why I'm

[11:48] opposed to it.

[11:49] And I believe that these on

[11:50] dates are cover ups for

[11:53] Catholic genocide that's

[11:54] happening in San Diego.

[11:55] It's a miracle I'm even alive

[12:00] right now because after being

[12:00] made homeless in the dead of

[12:01] winter by liberals in

[12:02] Cincinnati, I moved to San

[12:06] Diego to not freeze to death

[12:07] And I am for the past year when

[12:12] I go to job interviews they

[12:13] also speak gibberish to me and

[12:14] read my mind and mess with me.

[12:14] i can't get a job in San Diego

[12:18] and for the past year I've been

[12:19] followed around and had my head

[12:20] completely mentally destroyed

[12:24] by people speaking gibberish

[12:25] around me nonstop saying my

[12:26] thoughts And there's a truth of

[12:30] genocide and a city council are

[12:30] phonies.

[12:31] They don't care about human

[12:31] rights.

[12:32] They're covering up a Catholic

[12:33] genocide in San Diego And I

[12:34] don't want to be interrupted

[12:49] again.

[12:56] So what you might I mean this

[13:00] works but the jurors I mean it

[13:01] seems like the system is still

[13:06] glitching.

[13:12] No, you should do some

[13:20] housecleaning real quick.

[13:37] I brought my broom but we can

[13:48] hear you and they can hear So

[13:49] it's cool.

[13:55] I'm live so we're getting it

[13:55] out there.

[13:56] You know what I mean?

[13:56] This is not edited anyhow.

[14:01] It's good to see you guys on

[14:02] this level and like this is how

[14:02] it should be This close to

[14:03] the people know it terrifies

[14:06] you guys but you know to really

[14:07] feel like you're living and

[14:08] doing what the people need we

[14:12] should be on the same level and

[14:13] not you guys up on a diet that

[14:13] feels like you're trying to be

[14:18] above the people And so I'm

[14:22] going to connect 31 and 30 and

[14:23] 500 and that's 504 So with

[14:24] the Pollinator week I think you

[14:28] guys you know there's always

[14:29] underlying things when you have

[14:29] these proclamations And again I

[14:30] feel like you should spend more

[14:35] time on the rest of the agenda

[14:36] as you do on proclamations You

[14:36] spend a very long time on it

[14:40] and then it's like we just rush

[14:41] through the rest of

[14:41] the business.

[14:42] But with this pollinator stuff

[14:43] I mean there are things that

[14:46] are affecting pollinators like

[14:47] five g like the chem trails and

[14:52] even things like Roundup that

[14:53] are being sprayed to you know,

[14:54] kill certain weeds and stuff

[14:58] but like there's an effect that

[14:59] this has on the environment.

[15:00] And so you know, when we have

[15:00] people that are into

[15:04] environmental protection, I

[15:05] would think that they would be

[15:05] into geoengineering and making

[15:06] sure that you know, we don't

[15:10] have things like that that are

[15:11] not only detrimental to us as

[15:11] human beings but also

[15:12] the environment.

[15:16] And so you know, bees are

[15:17] heavily affected by five g and

[15:18] there aren't as many as there

[15:22] should be And this is why you

[15:23] know, the environment is

[15:24] affected And so it's like you

[15:27] guys want to talk about climate

[15:28] change and things like that but

[15:29] you don't talk about

[15:33] the manmade weather warfare

[15:34] that is happening and that is

[15:35] egregious because it's like

[15:39] that's affecting all of us And

[15:40] I just don't understand For

[15:41] people who do claim to care

[15:41] about the environment then that

[15:46] stuff should bother you And

[15:47] it's a disgrace to say this is

[15:47] pollinators week when there are

[15:48] things that are happening that

[15:52] are detrimental to them that

[15:52] could be stopped.

[15:53] It doesn't have to take place

[15:54] just like the storms didn't

[15:58] have to take place.

[15:59] But when there's you know,

[15:59] cloud seeding happening there's

[16:04] detriment that follows And so

[16:05] it's like if we don't, you

[16:06] know, acknowledge these things

[16:06] it's just I mean what's

[16:10] the point of doing this?

[16:11] And then for, you know,

[16:11] the librarian and for

[16:17] the elementary you know what

[16:18] bothers me is there's a lot of

[16:18] sexualization of children

[16:19] happening in schools And that

[16:19] is the truth.

[16:23] It's happening with books and

[16:23] you know, under the guise of

[16:24] pride.

[16:28] But this is very dangerous

[16:29] because I tell you guys all

[16:29] the time it leads to a grooming

[16:35] type of thing that leads kids

[16:35] to being victims of sexual

[16:36] assault because an adult can

[16:37] come up to them and talk to

[16:41] them about things that they

[16:42] shouldn't know about and

[16:42] shouldn't be learning in school

[16:43] even pronouns.

[16:43] That's not something that

[16:47] children should be learning.

[16:48] You know, they should be

[16:48] learning things that are going

[16:49] to help them in life And it

[16:50] feels like, you know, kids are

[16:54] failing because of curriculum

[16:55] and stuff like this.

[16:55] So I just feel like if you guys

[16:59] want to sit here and be so

[17:00] happy about things, we need to

[17:00] talk about the underlying

[17:01] things as well.

[17:01] >> Thank you.

[17:05] That does conclude your time.

[17:05] That concludes in-person public

[17:06] comment.

[17:06] I've started the five minute

[17:11] timer in council in committee

[17:11] room.

[17:12] We will now turn to the virtual

[17:13] queue in which there are

[17:17] currently three participants

[17:17] requesting to speak.

[17:18] Please state which proclamation

[17:23] item items you wish to speak

[17:23] to.

[17:24] We'll go first to caller with

[17:29] the last four digits 8700 if

[17:30] you can please unmute please

[17:35] proceed.

[17:35] Thank you.

[17:36] By the way I was applauding

[17:42] with everyone I'm going to do

[17:42] all of them.

[17:47] A deputy city clerk Hello?

[17:47] I'm sorry.

[17:54] What was your question And no

[17:54] question a deputy city Clerk I

[17:59] will be doing all items.

[18:00] >> All items.

[18:00] Okay.

[18:00] Thank you.

[18:01] You'll have three minutes.

[18:02] I'm sorry about that.

[18:02] I think I was kind of muffled.

[18:06] Okay, so let's start with Bird

[18:06] Rock.

[18:12] Oh, my GOD.

[18:13] >> I just Those four faces.

[18:13] Those faces of the children in

[18:18] the song I mean, this is

[18:19] the beauty.

[18:19] This is the beauty.

[18:24] This is just part of the whole

[18:24] circle And I just Thank you.

[18:25] >> Thank you, You guys and

[18:26] gals, you were just so great.

[18:30] You just touched my heart.

[18:31] I love you so much.

[18:35] And then on the stage I just

[18:36] want to say that the very first

[18:37] speaker who spoke on that and

[18:42] he just said it so eloquently

[18:43] and I wanted to thank him for

[18:43] that.

[18:44] And Mark Davis, thank you for

[18:48] making the world better And

[18:49] then Shawna Anderson, same for

[18:49] you.

[18:53] I celebrate you and I thank you

[18:54] for making the world better.

[18:58] Now here's the main one for me

[18:59] today and that is number three

[19:00] which is pollinator week.

[19:04] So here we go enabling

[19:05] the reproduction of flowering

[19:11] plants standing well into

[19:12] the city usa affiliate.

[19:17] Love, love, love The mayor's

[19:17] Bonner Pledge.

[19:18] Thank you for that, Mayor.

[19:23] One of the pollinator year

[19:23] heroes to me is director of

[19:28] the World Beat Cultural Center

[19:29] in San Diego's Balboa Park with

[19:30] Kate Cheatham.

[19:34] Thank you Makita.

[19:35] You do beautiful things for San

[19:36] Diego and you love our

[19:40] pollinators.

[19:41] Okay.

[19:41] And then lastly I want to

[19:42] suggest that you Google

[19:47] the image of bees

[19:47] affectionately called pollen

[19:48] pants where they carry

[19:54] the pollen in the nectar back

[19:54] to the hive.

[19:55] It's just an amazing thing.

[19:59] It's actually the little bags

[20:05] are woven with hair and in just

[20:06] it's just an amazing thing.

[20:07] So I celebrate with all of you

[20:12] a great job in moving in

[20:12] adapting this morning and

[20:13] looking forward to the rest of

[20:17] the day and live to evolve.

[20:18] Thank you.

[20:19] Our next speaker is Blair

[20:20] Beekman.

[20:27] Please on you.

[20:28] All right.

[20:28] We're Beekman.

[20:29] Happy Tuesday morning to

[20:32] everyone.

[20:33] I wanted to speak on item 30.

[20:34] Just one item today.

[20:34] Okay.

[20:35] You'll have one minute.

[20:38] Thank you.

[20:39] >> Yeah, I just wanted to thank

[20:40] yourselves for this item to be

[20:45] thankful to our butterflies and

[20:46] bees is a good thing and it's

[20:51] nice to have to have such a

[20:51] proclamation for our

[20:52] pollinators.

[20:57] Thank you.

[20:58] Thank you For words of the ira

[20:58] in stressing the importance of

[20:59] all the things we have to

[21:03] consider so we can continue to

[21:03] have our flowers and an overall

[21:08] good luck that as we are all

[21:09] trying to understand you know

[21:10] different levels and forces

[21:14] that kind of hinder us and

[21:15] conflict with us as we try to

[21:15] work on our issues, we try to

[21:21] find the constructive ness out

[21:21] of it.

[21:22] Identifying the weaknesses is

[21:23] important but then finding

[21:23] the positive constructive ness

[21:26] out of it.

[21:27] Good luck how we can do that in

[21:28] the same public dialog I think

[21:29] that can be a good thing.

[21:33] I try to practice how to do

[21:33] that.

[21:34] Good luck from the negative

[21:35] Speak of the positive it makes

[21:39] for good meeting.

[21:39] >> Thank you.

[21:40] Thank you.

[21:40] Next speakers Kathleen Lippert

[21:51] please begin.

[21:51] >> Thank you.

[21:52] Good morning Council And thank

[21:52] you for this proclamation of

[21:57] the colony for the pollinators

[21:57] .

[21:58] I wanted to speak about

[21:58] phenology.

[21:59] It's the timing of endemic

[21:59] plant species and it's

[22:03] essential to understanding

[22:04] their growth cycles and which

[22:05] have evolved to be compatible

[22:09] with flowering fruiting plants

[22:10] ,bird migrations and endemic

[22:10] insects.

[22:11] If you have a pollinator with

[22:15] nothing to pollinate

[22:16] the pollinator dies fruiting

[22:17] and flowering and native

[22:22] natural environments evolve to

[22:22] be compatible so they can all

[22:23] survive.

[22:24] That process is disrupted when

[22:28] endemic insect and species are

[22:28] replaced with things like

[22:34] marijuana and hemp growth that

[22:34] are not native.

[22:35] They consume massive amounts of

[22:35] water and are grown with

[22:36] pesticides.

[22:40] Insecticides and herbicides

[22:40] that will poison native plants,

[22:41] insects and wildlife.

[22:46] Those who care enough to

[22:47] proclaim the importance of

[22:47] pollinators for a proclamation

[22:52] should recognize these harms

[22:53] address reference to something

[22:57] that does conclude your time.

[22:58] Our next speaker is Tony.

[23:15] Please begin Just Tony we can't

[23:15] hear you very well.

[23:21] We can hear like a tiny little

[23:21] bit.

[23:22] Can you turn up the volume or

[23:28] something That's better.

[23:29] >> You got to go into morning's

[23:33] council.

[23:34] How are you doing today?

[23:35] I'm just calling to say that I.

[23:40] I support the people which and

[23:41] all the initiatives to bring

[23:45] attention and highlight all

[23:46] the actions in support of bees

[23:46] and pollination.

[23:51] Pollination plays an essential

[23:51] role Food production supporting

[23:52] local bees that are needed to

[23:57] the area is super important.

[23:58] Honey bees often get all

[23:58] the credit and they get all

[24:03] the glory But we have we have

[24:04] to be and a number of other

[24:05] native bees that actually grow

[24:09] inside the ground And the more

[24:10] that we expand the cities and

[24:15] the more that we are able for

[24:16] everything in the country of

[24:16] everything we're getting rid of

[24:21] the spaces where the growth is

[24:27] Not all bees burrow in hives in

[24:28] big colonies like that We want

[24:28] to be honey bees.

[24:33] You want to know on that side.

[24:34] >> Thank you for your time.

[24:34] Thank you.

[24:35] That does conclude your time.

[24:39] I will note for the record

[24:39] the five minute timer has

[24:40] concluded with one speaker left

[24:41] in the queue.

[24:41] No other speakers will be

[24:41] taken.

[24:50] Natalie Raskin Please begin.

[24:50] >> Hey good morning.

[24:51] Thank you for having me today.

[24:52] It's Natalie Rush.

[24:55] I just wanted to comment on

[24:56] the Bee the Pollinator week.

[24:57] It's contradictory that we have

[25:01] this week but yet we still

[25:01] spray our skies with chemicals.

[25:02] I live in a big apartment

[25:07] complex and I even have

[25:08] pictures where they come in

[25:08] every summer and spray all

[25:13] the plants and we have massive

[25:14] amount of dead bees in

[25:15] the parking lot.

[25:15] So we're going to have

[25:16] pollinator week where we also

[25:20] going to do to protect them in

[25:20] areas such as the apartment

[25:24] complex who's using what

[25:25] chemicals to kill these bees

[25:31] and why we spray our skies.

[25:32] They want to see contrails or

[25:32] contrails?

[25:33] Which one is it?

[25:37] Because when we spray the skies

[25:37] we're spraying our children to

[25:43] fix.

[25:43] >> Thank you.

[25:44] That concludes the public

[25:45] comment on proclamation items.

[25:48] All right.

[25:49] Thank you, Deputy Clerk I'll

[25:50] kick off council member comment

[25:55] and move the proclamation Item

[25:56] three Pollinator work As we've

[25:57] heard in partnership with Mayor

[26:01] Gloria, this proclamation

[26:02] sustains the buzz that San

[26:03] Diego values its environmental

[26:03] impact as a designated bee city

[26:08] pollinators are proof that

[26:09] sometimes even the smallest

[26:09] constituents have the biggest

[26:10] impact And without our

[26:11] pollinators and native plants

[26:14] that go hand in hand to support

[26:15] our biodiversity, our local

[26:15] food system and economy, San

[26:19] Diego would not have

[26:20] the vibrant ecosystem that we

[26:20] know and love without

[26:21] pollinators from bees to

[26:22] butterflies and everything in

[26:26] between we rely heavily on

[26:27] these pollinators to sustain

[26:27] our communities.

[26:28] It is important that we

[26:28] continue to do everything we

[26:33] can in San Diego to protect our

[26:33] diverse ecosystem from the many

[26:34] challenges that their

[26:35] pollinators face including

[26:38] climate change.

[26:39] And I know my staff is taking

[26:39] notes based on some of

[26:40] the comments the public made.

[26:44] Thank you to all the scientists

[26:45] ,biologists, local

[26:45] environmental organizations,

[26:46] the volunteers who make it

[26:47] their mission to protect our

[26:51] cities pollinators and keep say

[26:51] the thriving and special thank

[26:56] you to Professor DR. James Nye

[26:56] for your research and your

[26:57] passion in this area.

[27:01] Item 5a1 word Rock Elementary

[27:01] 75th Anniversary day.

[27:02] So congratulations to

[27:06] the school for 75 years of

[27:07] service to the Youth Alliance

[27:08] San Diego through education and

[27:12] innovation.

[27:13] As many of you know, Bird Rock

[27:14] Elementary holds a special

[27:14] place in my family's heart.

[27:17] My wife taught there for more

[27:18] than 25 years and my children

[27:19] attended their elementary

[27:23] school years there being able

[27:23] to witness firsthand

[27:24] the dedication of care for

[27:25] the school and staff put into

[27:25] our youth is worthy to take a

[27:29] moment to celebrate this

[27:30] anniversary recognizing

[27:30] the leadership and teachers of

[27:31] the past to those who are

[27:35] leading and will lead to

[27:36] the school forward and to

[27:36] the parents.

[27:37] This is the first place that I

[27:41] did Community volunteer work so

[27:41] who knows?

[27:42] You do some community volunteer

[27:42] work.

[27:43] You end up as an elected

[27:46] official.

[27:47] I don't that's bad or good but

[27:48] at least that was my path away

[27:52] from earning multiple awards

[27:52] and honors as a California

[27:53] Distinguished School and one of

[27:54] America's healthiest schools,

[27:57] Murdoch Elementary continues to

[27:57] foster a thriving, supportive

[27:58] and premier community where

[28:03] students feel encouraged to

[28:04] learn and succeed leading today

[28:04] and sustaining high standards

[28:05] for students and

[28:08] the communities is the school's

[28:13] principal DR. Eric How DR.

[28:14] Bennett remains committed to

[28:19] ensuring the same Scuse me

[28:19] The Byrd Rock Elementary

[28:20] continues to be a place where

[28:21] students and parents alike feel

[28:24] confident and connected and

[28:25] with administrators like

[28:25] Principal DR. Bennett, staff

[28:31] teachers and parents Byrd Rock

[28:31] Elementary It's upheld

[28:32] the standards over the past 75

[28:32] years.

[28:35] Today we celebrate tomorrow I

[28:36] know you continue to work on

[28:41] behalf of the students Event

[28:42] Item 31 Shawn Anderson Day in

[28:43] partnership with Councilmember

[28:45] Yvonne Wolpert.

[28:46] I congratulate and thank John

[28:47] Anderson for her work and

[28:50] commitment of 26 years to

[28:51] the San Diego River Park With

[28:51] the past six years as

[28:56] the executive Director of

[28:56] the Joint Powers Authority,

[28:57] Shauna has been consistently at

[29:01] the forefront for local

[29:01] environmental protections and

[29:02] open space advocacy in District

[29:06] one from securing over $6

[29:07] million in state and federal

[29:08] funding for regional trail

[29:08] projects to being a respected

[29:11] leader to her peers and staff,

[29:12] she provided critical oversight

[29:13] on major habitat restoration

[29:17] projects built by others.

[29:18] But now with management

[29:18] responsibility, she drove

[29:23] critical advances to the long

[29:23] term build out of the 71 mile

[29:27] Coast to Coast Crest Trail with

[29:28] now 50 miles already in place,

[29:29] she transformed long term plans

[29:33] into groundbreaking projects

[29:34] that expand environmental

[29:34] access and restore natural

[29:39] habitat because of her

[29:39] residents and visitors are able

[29:40] to experience more of what San

[29:44] Diego and the region has to

[29:44] offer.

[29:45] Thank you Shauna for your

[29:46] exceptional work with the San

[29:49] Diego jpa and everything that

[29:50] you've done for our city.

[29:50] Congratulations on your

[29:51] retirement.

[29:51] Would you like to offer a few

[30:01] words?

[30:02] Thank you.

[30:02] Council PRESIDENT Joe LaCava I

[30:07] really like the connection

[30:08] between Pollinator Week and

[30:08] the San Diego River Park

[30:12] because protecting our open

[30:13] spaces and our river valleys

[30:17] through the San Diego region is

[30:18] so critical to our pollinators.

[30:22] I'd like to thank the city of

[30:22] San Diego for your years of

[30:27] support for the jpa

[30:28] particularly two board members

[30:31] current board board members Joe

[30:32] LaCava and Marni von Wilpert

[30:33] who've been on the board of

[30:33] the jpa since I've been

[30:36] the director.

[30:37] And for all your passion and

[30:41] engagement as we navigate

[30:42] the challenges protecting our

[30:46] open spaces 35 miles of those

[30:47] 50 miles of the Coastal Crest

[30:51] Trail and other trails in

[30:52] the park are within the city of

[30:53] San Diego City limits.

[30:56] I'd like to add to the team

[30:57] effort and I'd like to

[30:58] acknowledge some of our jpa

[30:58] staff that are here.

[31:01] Please raise your hand.

[31:02] We have a wonderful team of

[31:02] only 12 people and we

[31:06] accomplished so much.

[31:07] I'd like to thank my family

[31:08] who's also here.

[31:08] Please raise your hand.

[31:12] I like to say that I've raised

[31:13] my kids at the San Diego River

[31:16] Park and it's true.

[31:17] Uh, finally I'd like to give a

[31:22] quick thank you to the first

[31:22] responders and the fire

[31:23] department of the city of San

[31:29] Diego Yesterday a brush fire

[31:30] appeared next to Lake Hodges

[31:34] and thanks to the firefighters

[31:35] and first responders it was

[31:35] only a brush fire was contained

[31:40] within, you know, just a short

[31:40] time And thankfully protecting

[31:44] the San the important San Diego

[31:44] River Valley.

[31:45] So thank you so much.

[31:49] I appreciate the recognition.

[31:49] >> All right.

[31:50] Thank you, John.

[31:51] Again, congratulations that

[31:58] your time and again I will move

[31:59] the proclamation and we'll go

[31:59] to Councilmember Foster.

[32:00] Yes.

[32:03] Thank you, council PRESIDENT.

[32:04] And just a quick

[32:08] congratulations to all of

[32:08] the folks and organizations

[32:13] that are being recognized for

[32:13] the proclamations.

[32:16] I would like to speak briefly

[32:17] on item 30 and as five of four

[32:18] first starting with pollinator

[32:22] week 2026, just what we'd like

[32:22] to thank you council PRESIDENT

[32:26] And the mayor's office for

[32:27] bringing this proclamation

[32:27] forward.

[32:31] Also just want to recognize a

[32:31] very special place in District

[32:32] four known as the Paradise

[32:36] Hills Native Garden It with

[32:37] the work of your office and

[32:41] the mayor's office it has been

[32:41] incorporated into the city of

[32:45] San Diego's Bee City program

[32:46] And so it is just such a

[32:49] beautiful place And I say you

[32:50] know we talk about

[32:51] the resiliency of District four

[32:54] that Native Garden is actually

[32:55] built on an old landfill And so

[32:56] you can only imagine

[32:59] the challenges that go along

[33:00] with that as you can only, you

[33:03] know, penetrate to certain

[33:04] levels and degrees.

[33:05] And I tell you they have really

[33:09] found a way to to make that

[33:09] into a view to beautiful space.

[33:13] Not only do they have to be

[33:14] part of the bee garden that

[33:14] they that they have out there

[33:17] but they also have

[33:18] the butterfly garden as well.

[33:19] So if you ever have a chance

[33:20] you like gardening please stop

[33:23] by The Paradise Hills Native

[33:23] Garden is just a beautiful

[33:24] space and I say it's kind of

[33:27] like the zoo.

[33:28] They have all these species out

[33:29] there with all names of this

[33:32] species and it's really a

[33:32] beautiful educational place.

[33:33] So thank you.

[33:36] Just a big shout out to Nancy

[33:37] and West Jansen for and all

[33:38] the volunteers for everything

[33:38] that takes place at Paradise

[33:42] Hills Garden Also as 504 Mark

[33:47] Davis Day Um yeah Give him a

[33:51] round of applause.

[33:52] >> I'm proud to bring proud

[33:52] Hello Proud to bring this

[33:56] proclamation forward with Mayor

[33:56] Todd Glory to recognize Mark

[33:57] Davis day and celebrate a

[34:00] career that has meant so much

[34:04] to all park in our city for

[34:04] nearly four decades, Marc

[34:05] dedicated himself to public

[34:06] service and to creating spaces

[34:09] where people could learn,

[34:10] connect and feel welcomed.

[34:11] And if you ever been out to

[34:15] the Oak Park Library and

[34:15] the and the friends of

[34:16] the library in the events, it

[34:19] is truly truly a place that

[34:20] brings committee community

[34:24] together for fellowship.

[34:25] As we know libraries are our

[34:29] anchor in our community and

[34:30] again special places where we

[34:34] open the doors and just create

[34:35] fellowship and opportunity for

[34:35] our residents.

[34:36] And Mark understood that

[34:39] through his leadership in

[34:40] partnership with the Friends of

[34:40] the Oak Park Library,

[34:41] the branch became a trusted

[34:44] community space and brought

[34:44] people together and created

[34:45] opportunities for generations

[34:48] of residents And we see that

[34:49] impact directly in our office

[34:49] today.

[34:53] As you saw through the efforts

[34:53] there and my my engagement with

[34:58] the Oak Park community and

[34:58] the friends of the Oak Park

[34:59] Library Jackson that came up

[35:03] and gave comment is now an

[35:03] intern in my office and he made

[35:07] it very adamant that he wanted

[35:08] getting around that he wanted

[35:08] to be here today to recognize

[35:12] Mark So just really want to

[35:13] just really appreciate

[35:14] the partnership Mark built with

[35:17] the community libraries staff

[35:18] and his commitment to making

[35:18] sure the future of the Oak Park

[35:21] Library reflected the needs of

[35:22] the people who use it every

[35:22] day.

[35:26] So on behalf of District four

[35:27] and the Oak Park Community

[35:28] Friends of the Oak Park Library

[35:31] and the City of San Diego Marc

[35:32] just thank you for your

[35:32] service, your leadership and

[35:36] for everything you have given

[35:37] to Oak Park and the city of San

[35:37] Diego.

[35:41] And I just want you to really

[35:42] enjoy this next chapter and it

[35:45] is well deserved And of course

[35:46] you are invited and want to

[35:48] make sure we see you at the new

[35:54] Oak Park opening when we get

[35:54] that building completed.

[35:58] So looking forward to having

[35:58] you there.

[35:59] Mark would you like to say a

[36:02] few words If you want.

[36:03] Okay.

[36:17] Please.

[36:18] All right coworkers.

[36:18] It might have been nice if you

[36:19] let me know that I was going to

[36:26] be speaking today ahead of time

[36:27] .

[36:27] Know our libraries are

[36:31] definitely are hubs to our

[36:32] communities more than just

[36:33] places for educational

[36:37] materials but they are

[36:37] community centers and I'm very

[36:41] happy and proud to have been

[36:42] able to work in one and and

[36:46] serve a community in the city.

[36:47] And I want to remind you guys,

[36:50] a dollar for dollar investments

[36:51] in libraries is probably more

[36:52] effective than fighting crime

[36:55] than investment in police.

[36:56] >> So thank you for restoring

[36:59] as much of the library funding

[37:00] as you were able.

[37:04] >> I appreciate it.

[37:05] Thank you.

[37:06] Thank you so much tonight And

[37:09] I'm sure I'm sure Anita Chavez

[37:10] will be giving you a big giant

[37:15] hug as you retired But looking

[37:15] forward to having you at

[37:19] the opening of the New Oak Park

[37:19] Library.

[37:20] So with that I will second

[37:23] the motion and thank you for

[37:24] the opportunity Counsel

[37:24] present.

[37:25] All right.

[37:25] Thank you.

[37:28] So we have a motion by myself

[37:29] and a second by Councilmember

[37:30] Foster and with a proclamation

[37:31] so I don't see anybody else on

[37:33] the lights So please call

[37:34] the roll Deputy Clerk I have

[37:34] set up the voting system.

[37:47] Please cast your vote.

[37:47] Councilmember Weprin, could you

[37:50] state your vote for the record,

[37:51] please?

[38:00] >> Thank you.

[38:01] The item passes unanimously

[38:04] with the council District five

[38:04] absent.

[38:04] >> All right.

[38:08] Thank you for that for continue

[38:09] to ask the indulgence of those

[38:13] assembled here.

[38:14] We're going to pause briefly to

[38:15] go out in the chamber to take

[38:18] pictures with the four

[38:18] recipient of the proclamations

[38:19] anybody who wants to come into

[38:22] chambers and witness

[38:23] the photos, you're welcome to

[38:27] do that If you choose to leave

[38:27] two elevators are are working.

[38:32] I've been told the two

[38:33] elevators are in fact working

[38:36] so you won't have to walk all

[38:37] the way back down.

[38:38] So my colleagues would join me

[38:40] in chambers for that.

[38:40] We can take pictures with

[39:42] the four recipients that don't

[39:43] Oh I mean somebody just has

[40:32] this opportunity to up

[41:14] and

[41:15] you

[41:45] know Yeah, yeah.

[42:36] Check One, two, three, four

[44:36] And

[46:04] the events that started right

[48:04] here in say

[49:36] just Okay, we're back from a

[49:40] brief pause But Kevin why don't

[49:41] you take attendance?

[49:50] >> The council members security

[49:50] Council member Campbell here

[49:51] Council member Whitburn here

[49:57] Council member Foster Von

[49:58] Wilpert Council PRESIDENT Pro

[50:03] Tem Lee Council Member Campos

[50:03] Council Member Moreno Present

[50:07] Council Member Eli Rivera

[50:08] Resident for PRESIDENT LaCava

[50:12] present All right Thank you And

[50:12] again thank you for indulging

[50:15] us as we kind of navigate these

[50:16] 10:00 technical problems.

[50:17] So we're going to proceed with

[50:17] the approval of the consent

[50:21] items and there are two

[50:22] corrective statements for

[50:26] the record our City Attorney

[50:26] Thank you Council PRESIDENT On

[50:30] item as 501 our office will be

[50:31] submitting a corrected digest

[50:35] and ordinance to clarify that

[50:35] the ordinance if approved will

[50:36] remain in effect without any

[50:40] further action by council If

[50:44] Vehicle code section 21214.7 is

[50:44] extended by the state

[50:45] legislature.

[50:48] All right.

[50:49] >> Thank you for that.

[50:50] And I believe the office of

[50:50] the mayor has a correction as

[50:51] well.

[50:51] Thank you.

[50:54] Council PRESIDENT For item 100.

[50:54] The staff report on resolution

[50:55] indicate that appointee

[50:58] Stephanie Benvenuto resides in

[50:59] Council District one.

[51:00] However she actually resides in

[51:02] Council District two.

[51:03] >> a correct id resolution will

[51:04] be submitted following

[51:04] the meeting.

[51:07] There we go with that.

[51:08] Are there any requests to pull

[51:12] an item or any of the items by

[51:12] the council?

[51:13] I don't see any request So with

[51:14] that Deputy clerk please

[51:17] proceed with public testimony

[51:18] on the consent items.

[51:18] >> Thank you.

[51:22] Council PRESIDENT Please note

[51:23] each speaker will have one

[51:23] minute per item per person.

[51:27] If you would like to speak on

[51:28] three or more items you will

[51:28] have a maximum of three

[51:29] minutes.

[51:29] The consent agenda includes

[51:36] items 1050 through 52 100 1a1

[51:39] as a5a1 as 502 and as 503 Also

[51:40] let me note for the record

[51:41] the potential appointments that

[51:44] are on the agenda this morning

[51:45] Item 100 at the potential

[51:45] appointment of Stephanie

[51:49] Benvenuto, John Ford, Tyler

[51:50] Martin and Tiffany McDaniel to

[51:54] the homelessness revenue

[51:55] Account Citizens Oversight

[51:59] Committee Item 101 is

[51:59] the potential appointment of

[52:00] Tom Harmon to the Board of

[52:03] Building Appeals and Advisors.

[52:09] We did receive comments on item

[52:10] 5a1 on our e comment form which

[52:10] has been distributed to

[52:14] the Council that we will go to

[52:14] in-person comment.

[52:18] Max Schmitt please come

[52:18] forward.

[52:23] You have submitted speaker

[52:23] slips on all of the consent

[52:24] items so you will have a

[52:26] maximum of three minutes.

[52:31] Hi I just wanted to use my

[52:32] First Amendment right here

[52:36] today at City Hall and say that

[52:40] with my First Amendment right

[52:44] in my opinion I am opposed to

[52:49] all of the consent agenda items

[52:50] .

[52:50] I'm opposed to every single one

[52:51] with my First Amendment right

[52:55] and in my opinion and I want to

[53:00] say the reason why the reason

[53:01] why I'm opposed to all of these

[53:04] items is because I believe that

[53:09] every thing should be stopped

[53:14] and that the city government

[53:18] should actually be shut down

[53:19] until more awareness is drawn

[53:23] about the Catholic genocide and

[53:23] if I'm going to get in trouble

[53:27] for not staying on topic one of

[53:27] the item 100 is appointments to

[53:28] the Homeless Revenue account

[53:31] Citizens Oversight Committee.

[53:32] I think the Homeless Revenue

[53:36] Oversight Committee should be

[53:37] shut down until awareness is

[53:42] drawn on homeless Catholic

[53:42] people are.

[53:43] You can call it death by

[53:46] gibberish where Freemasons

[53:47] surround homeless Catholic

[53:51] people and speak gibberish

[53:52] nonstop to the point they go

[53:56] mentally ill commit suicide or

[53:56] turn to drugs and it's an

[54:00] underground hidden genocide and

[54:01] I want to say the reason why

[54:02] I'm opposed these items and why

[54:05] it's such a big deal is because

[54:10] homeless people are dying and

[54:11] they're being intentionally

[54:15] driven to suicide,

[54:19] intentionally driven to drugs

[54:20] by armed telepathic people

[54:24] surrounding them nonstop

[54:25] surrounding them at

[54:29] the homeless shelter

[54:29] surrounding them and public

[54:30] transit surrounding them every

[54:34] single where every single place

[54:35] they go and speaking gibberish

[54:39] so that their mind is so that

[54:39] they their mind is constantly

[54:40] going insane.

[54:44] It's imagine being forced to

[54:44] wear headphones that all you

[54:48] hear is gibberish all day long

[54:49] through these headphones and

[54:53] then half the time if you can

[54:53] make out any of the gibberish

[54:54] it's saying your thoughts out

[54:58] loud.

[54:58] Imagine how that could drive

[54:59] someone to suicide or drug

[55:02] addiction.

[55:03] There is an underground

[55:07] genocide on in San Diego that's

[55:08] being covered up and city

[55:12] council are phonies.

[55:12] They don't care about human

[55:17] rights because they know about

[55:18] this underground genocide.

[55:18] And the reason I know why is

[55:19] because when I come to city

[55:23] hall, city council members are

[55:23] actually intentionally speaking

[55:24] gibberish to try to drive me

[55:28] crazy And they know they're

[55:28] guilty and I'm not stupid.

[55:32] Stop targeting Catholics.

[55:33] >> Shame on all of you.

[55:33] Thank you.

[55:34] That does conclude your time

[55:34] Allegedly.

[55:37] Audra, please come forward and

[55:40] state the items you'd like to

[55:45] speak to.

[55:46] We'll cover as much as

[55:46] possible.

[55:46] Okay.

[55:51] The three minutes listed items

[55:53] 5050 to 100 as 501 as 502 and

[55:54] that's 503 on your speaker

[55:54] slip.

[55:55] That's right.

[55:55] Three minutes.

[55:57] Let's do this.

[55:57] All right.

[55:58] Fun fact flies also pollinate.

[56:02] So that's interesting.

[56:03] You MAY not want to kill them.

[56:04] You know what I mean?

[56:04] It's like they also you know

[56:07] there's a reason why they go

[56:08] after any who So yes, I'll

[56:09] continue to say this with your

[56:13] software agreements I feel like

[56:13] it is very negligent when we

[56:17] are engaging with these

[56:17] monopolies that have all of

[56:18] the government information

[56:22] Again because it seems

[56:22] convenient but it's very

[56:23] dangerous with the people who

[56:27] are have nefarious intentions

[56:31] like BlackRock and Vanguard who

[56:32] are you know, just being given

[56:32] our data it's crazy.

[56:36] >> Nobody cares.

[56:36] And then there's appointment

[56:37] for the homeless revenue

[56:41] account.

[56:41] I feel like you should rename

[56:42] that because it sounds like

[56:43] you're making money off

[56:46] the homeless.

[56:47] I mean you do but I feel like

[56:48] it needs to be more along

[56:51] the lines of the you know,

[56:51] homelessness o t revenue

[56:56] account because it really does

[56:56] it doesn't it doesn't look

[56:57] good.

[56:57] But I guess let's be

[57:01] transparent with the people so

[57:02] that they know you know what I

[57:02] mean that they're you know a

[57:05] hot commodity because they make

[57:05] you a lot of money And with

[57:10] this electric bike stuff I just

[57:10] feel like eventually these are

[57:11] going to be regulated like

[57:11] cars.

[57:15] So you're going to need a

[57:15] license and insurance and all

[57:16] of that stuff.

[57:19] So I mean people Sean, that

[57:20] bike you know what I mean?

[57:20] You're going to have to get a

[57:21] specific license for it and

[57:24] children will too.

[57:25] So it's interesting And then

[57:29] with this emergency ambulance

[57:29] transportation billing so I

[57:30] understand this is for billing

[57:34] but ambulances like full

[57:35] ambulance are ambulances that

[57:38] are picking people up And I

[57:39] would like to specify ambulance

[57:43] number 36 that is engaged in

[57:44] drugging people Falck also

[57:49] manufacturers some of these

[57:49] drugs that they use to kind of

[57:54] sedate people and it is

[57:54] something that is known that

[57:55] happens in ambulances not just

[57:58] in fog but across the nation

[57:59] and probably the world where

[58:00] people who get sedated also get

[58:04] sexually assaulted.

[58:05] And Andrea Epping had a rape

[58:06] kit done after she was in a

[58:09] fall ambulance after she was

[58:09] assaulted by Anthony Warner San

[58:14] Diego pd Officer and put into

[58:15] this ambulance and one of those

[58:15] like burritos or you know they

[58:18] just like wrap you up it's a

[58:19] wrap or whatever And she wound

[58:20] up in the hospital with no

[58:24] clothes and they're like Where

[58:24] are your clothes?

[58:25] I mean she had them at

[58:28] the skate park.

[58:29] Raul is in your district but

[58:30] evidently when she ended up in

[58:34] the hospital there were no

[58:35] clothes and she had a rape kit

[58:36] done And when that was done

[58:38] they said this is one of

[58:39] the worst cases I've seen And I

[58:40] saw a bunch of bruises on her

[58:44] legs that look like, you know,

[58:44] fingerprints on the inside of

[58:49] her thighs And so it's very

[58:49] concerning to know that this is

[58:50] happening in the city of San

[58:54] Diego And right now they have

[58:55] deemed her incompetent.

[58:56] So you know, all of this can

[58:57] get buried under the rock.

[59:01] >> Good job.

[59:12] But the risky police state

[59:13] the item you would like to

[59:16] speak to item ten the minutes.

[59:16] Okay.

[59:17] Thank you.

[59:18] I just like to say that I'd

[59:21] like to see more detail in

[59:22] the minutes rather than less.

[59:22] The minutes are supposed to

[59:26] reflect what happened at

[59:27] the meeting.

[59:27] They're searchable so people

[59:28] can look for what they're

[59:32] interested in and I've heard

[59:32] that push to actually reduce

[59:33] the amount of detail in

[59:37] the minutes when citizens speak

[59:37] rather than increase it And I

[59:38] think it should be increased so

[59:42] that what we say here is at

[59:42] least captured to some degree.

[59:46] I know it has to be summarized

[59:47] might be something for you to

[59:48] do at some point But I do think

[59:52] that you know, I spent six

[59:53] hours here yesterday waiting to

[59:57] give a two minute speech and i

[59:58] think the citizens deserve a

[59:58] little more than just their

[1:00:02] name And a couple of words Also

[1:00:03] I don't understand why we're

[1:00:06] now reducing all citizen

[1:00:07] comments to one minute.

[1:00:08] There's not that many speakers

[1:00:08] here.

[1:00:09] There's no justification to not

[1:00:12] have two minutes today And I've

[1:00:13] seen it again and again Now I

[1:00:14] can understand if you have a

[1:00:17] council full of you know, a

[1:00:18] chamber full of people as we

[1:00:19] did yesterday with the telecom

[1:00:23] but in general we should

[1:00:23] reserve two minutes for

[1:00:24] the Brown Act.

[1:00:24] Thank you concludes your time

[1:00:34] And Anthony Ralphs please state

[1:00:34] the items you'd like to speak

[1:00:39] to Like to speak to item ten

[1:00:39] I'd like to speak to item 100

[1:00:44] and I'd like to speak to item

[1:00:44] 501 please.

[1:00:45] So you'll have three minutes

[1:00:50] with regard to item ten.

[1:00:50] Well first of all good

[1:00:53] afternoon City Council With

[1:00:54] regard to item ten I would like

[1:00:55] to say that I strongly agree

[1:01:00] with what Bob just shared.

[1:01:01] I also share that position as

[1:01:01] well.

[1:01:02] I think that if we were making

[1:01:06] the time to park down here for

[1:01:06] making a time to sit here for

[1:01:07] hours if we're making the time

[1:01:08] to routinely show up, I think

[1:01:11] that we all deserve to have

[1:01:12] what we say recorded as

[1:01:12] accurately as possible and as

[1:01:17] thoroughly as possible.

[1:01:21] Moving on to item 100 I've good

[1:01:22] luck with these appointments.

[1:01:23] I know that empty seats can't

[1:01:23] make the important decisions

[1:01:27] that are needed with regard to

[1:01:28] all of these issues So I hope

[1:01:28] that these people are

[1:01:29] appointed.

[1:01:33] I'm not sure who they are but I

[1:01:33] hope that they are qualified

[1:01:38] and good luck to them and with

[1:01:39] regard to item s501

[1:01:44] the Municipal Code the new

[1:01:49] sections eight for 19 420 and

[1:01:49] 8421 relating to electric

[1:01:50] bicycle safety.

[1:01:50] I'm assuming that that's I

[1:01:55] actually have not seen those

[1:01:56] codes specifically so I can't

[1:01:57] speak to all the nuances within

[1:02:01] them but I just wanted to share

[1:02:01] my own personal testimony with

[1:02:02] regard to electrical bicycle

[1:02:07] safety and share that my

[1:02:08] brother's almost been hit by an

[1:02:08] electric bike actually grazed

[1:02:13] his bass almost and thankfully

[1:02:13] it didn't hurt him and it

[1:02:18] didn't hurt his bass But I'm

[1:02:19] sure that you hear stories like

[1:02:20] this all the time so I won't

[1:02:21] bore you with more details Just

[1:02:24] hoping that we can do something

[1:02:25] with regard to public safety

[1:02:26] with these electric bicycles.

[1:02:29] Thank you.

[1:02:30] Thank you.

[1:02:31] That concludes in-person public

[1:02:36] comment.

[1:02:36] I've started the five minute

[1:02:37] timer in the committee room.

[1:02:38] We will now turn to the virtual

[1:02:42] queue in which there are seven

[1:02:42] participants requesting to

[1:02:43] speak.

[1:02:52] We'll begin with John Elway.

[1:02:53] John, please begin.

[1:02:53] Thank you.

[1:02:53] Good morning.

[1:02:57] City COUNCILMAN John Brady with

[1:02:58] Experience Advisors.

[1:02:58] I'd like to speak on

[1:03:01] the consent agenda and item 100

[1:03:02] please.

[1:03:02] Thank you.

[1:03:09] So I want I'm sorry item 100.

[1:03:09] Yes.

[1:03:09] Okay.

[1:03:13] Well, I wanted to thank you and

[1:03:13] also the consent agenda item

[1:03:14] 100 is on the consent agenda.

[1:03:20] >> Oh, sorry about that.

[1:03:21] I don't want to speak on

[1:03:21] the item related to

[1:03:22] the Homeless revenue Committee

[1:03:22] as well.

[1:03:26] Okay.

[1:03:26] >> Thank you.

[1:03:27] It's two minutes please.

[1:03:32] So I am concerned about this

[1:03:33] homeless revenue committee.

[1:03:34] I we've spoken with our members

[1:03:35] the way the language of this

[1:03:38] committee is set up.

[1:03:38] It appears that no one from

[1:03:39] the homeless services base

[1:03:44] could actually serve on their

[1:03:45] committee if they are if they

[1:03:46] are recipients of any city

[1:03:50] funding which is almost

[1:03:51] everyone in this space

[1:03:52] including our own and what

[1:03:56] appears to be developing based

[1:03:57] on the first four appointments

[1:03:58] is that there is no homeless

[1:04:02] services or knowledge or

[1:04:03] experience happening And on top

[1:04:09] of it we are and I know no

[1:04:09] problem with the individuals or

[1:04:10] the resumes but what's

[1:04:11] happening is we are actually

[1:04:11] creating an exception for

[1:04:15] someone who does not live in

[1:04:15] the city who is a lobbyist.

[1:04:16] This committee, if it has

[1:04:21] impact over how this funding is

[1:04:22] spent looks like to me it will

[1:04:22] largely be made up by business

[1:04:26] people and no one with any

[1:04:27] lived experience or knowledge

[1:04:33] of the industry itself And that

[1:04:33] is problematic for us.

[1:04:34] As to the public comment area,

[1:04:39] I did want to say that when you

[1:04:44] call in right now you get an

[1:04:45] error.

[1:04:45] If you dial in and enter

[1:04:46] the code it says either it

[1:04:50] doesn't recognize it or ask for

[1:04:50] the code again and people hang

[1:04:51] up.

[1:04:51] Also when we pull an item like

[1:04:56] yesterday on path we had two

[1:04:57] people set up to speak but we

[1:04:58] could not give them time to get

[1:04:58] on the phone because there was

[1:05:01] not the presentation that was

[1:05:01] planned for.

[1:05:06] Thank you.

[1:05:07] Thank you.

[1:05:12] Our next speaker is Aurora

[1:05:12] Livingston.

[1:05:13] Please state the items that you

[1:05:14] would like to speak to and

[1:05:18] begin.

[1:05:19] >> Good morning Council

[1:05:19] PRESIDENT And Council members.

[1:05:24] My name is Aurora and I'm

[1:05:25] speaking today on behalf of

[1:05:26] California State Senator

[1:05:30] Catherine Blake Speer on item

[1:05:31] s5a1 The Senator supports this

[1:05:32] ordinance to improve e-bike

[1:05:37] safety and thanks Councilmember

[1:05:38] Campo for his leadership on

[1:05:38] this important issue.

[1:05:42] Senator Blake's Mayor I applaud

[1:05:42] the city of San Diego for

[1:05:43] taking such a thoughtful

[1:05:44] education First approach to

[1:05:48] improving e-bike safety e-bikes

[1:05:49] really are an important part of

[1:05:49] our transportation system.

[1:05:53] They provide a sustainable

[1:05:54] mobility option for many

[1:05:54] residents.

[1:05:55] Unfortunately there have been

[1:05:56] serious injuries involving

[1:06:00] young riders who MAY not have

[1:06:00] the training or understand

[1:06:01] the rules of the road to safely

[1:06:06] operate these e-bikes.

[1:06:06] This ordinance strikes

[1:06:07] the right balance by

[1:06:08] establishing a reasonable age

[1:06:12] restriction and prioritizing

[1:06:12] public education And these are

[1:06:13] commonsense guardrails that

[1:06:14] focus on prevention and will

[1:06:19] help keep all road users safe.

[1:06:19] Senator Alex Mayor looks

[1:06:20] forward to advancing

[1:06:21] complementary state legislation

[1:06:24] to strengthen e-bike safety

[1:06:25] standards and improve consumer

[1:06:25] protections.

[1:06:26] >> Thank you.

[1:06:30] Thank you.

[1:06:31] Our next speaker is Leif

[1:06:31] Ganzer.

[1:06:32] Please state the item you would

[1:06:37] like to speak to.

[1:06:38] >> I am a novice.

[1:06:39] My name is left and I want to

[1:06:45] speak on 5a1.

[1:06:46] I must have one bike right off

[1:06:47] I take it to the grocery store

[1:06:48] On the right is all the time I

[1:06:49] have a class one e-bike which

[1:06:49] is limited to 20mph.

[1:06:50] I want to point out that you

[1:06:55] picked up the worst statement

[1:06:55] to support when it comes to

[1:06:56] e-bikes.

[1:06:57] There is no bicycle at all that

[1:06:57] it supports This particular

[1:07:01] bill especially because it

[1:07:02] would limit children under 12

[1:07:02] to ride Class one and Class two

[1:07:03] e-bikes.

[1:07:03] These are not the e-bikes that

[1:07:07] people are always talking about

[1:07:07] these monthly models.

[1:07:08] These are typically not

[1:07:09] the e-bikes that kids are doing

[1:07:09] these on.

[1:07:13] I want you to understand this

[1:07:13] has nothing to do with kids

[1:07:14] riding on the highway.

[1:07:15] There's nothing to do with kids

[1:07:17] doing wheelies.

[1:07:18] Please don't use the excuse

[1:07:19] that you're doing something

[1:07:19] because what you're doing is

[1:07:24] you're doing the easy thing and

[1:07:25] you are creating bad things for

[1:07:25] people that cannot vote.

[1:07:30] So if you care about e-bike

[1:07:31] safety you would be

[1:07:31] consistently and fully about

[1:07:32] implementing safe bicycle

[1:07:36] infrastructure.

[1:07:37] Might ask if you can do all of

[1:07:37] the education first off and yes

[1:07:42] you can all the education all I

[1:07:43] don't even I'm opposed to

[1:07:44] better enforcement but please

[1:07:50] take out the restriction on

[1:07:51] class one and custom e-bikes.

[1:07:51] That's all I've got.

[1:07:52] Thank you.

[1:07:52] That concludes your time.

[1:07:54] Please note that the five

[1:07:54] minute timer has concluded with

[1:07:55] five speakers left in

[1:07:55] the queue.

[1:08:00] No other speakers will be taken

[1:08:01] .

[1:08:01] Next up is Ross Tritt.

[1:08:03] Please state the time you'd

[1:08:10] like to speak to me in.

[1:08:11] Thank you.

[1:08:11] Speaking on this final one.

[1:08:12] Good morning to all

[1:08:12] the PRESIDENT With all

[1:08:16] the members of the San Diego

[1:08:17] Zoo Counsel.

[1:08:18] My name is Ross Trade and I'm

[1:08:18] speaking on behalf of

[1:08:19] Assemblymember Brenner in

[1:08:22] support of item as 5a1 which

[1:08:23] would opposite of the need to

[1:08:27] go into the 20 to 34 pilot

[1:08:28] program that you can do

[1:08:29] COUNCILMAN Camp over target

[1:08:29] championing this ordinance in

[1:08:32] San Diego.

[1:08:33] Assembly member DR. Brenner

[1:08:34] authored 80.34 in response to

[1:08:39] the growing number of pigeons

[1:08:39] involving young riders across

[1:08:40] the district.

[1:08:40] As a mom of two children, she

[1:08:45] knows firsthand how important

[1:08:46] it is to keep our kids safe on

[1:08:46] the road.

[1:08:47] And this is really just a

[1:08:48] common sense change that gives

[1:08:51] cities the tools to protect

[1:08:52] families and prevent a tragic

[1:08:52] accident from happening.

[1:08:53] I respectfully ask for your

[1:08:56] vote and thank you.

[1:09:01] Our next speaker is Blair being

[1:09:02] pleased that the item or items

[1:09:10] he wished to speak to?

[1:09:10] >> Hi.

[1:09:11] Blair Bateman I wanted to speak

[1:09:12] to It's 5a1 that's 5a3 an item

[1:09:13] 51.

[1:09:13] >> You'll have three minutes.

[1:09:19] Please proceed.

[1:09:19] >> Okay.

[1:09:20] Thank you.

[1:09:24] I guess first to 5 or 1

[1:09:25] the electrical electric

[1:09:30] electrical electric bikes that

[1:09:31] I come up to to more from what

[1:09:35] the future of infrastructure is

[1:09:36] going to be like in terms of

[1:09:37] our smart cities and e-bike use

[1:09:41] And do we have good tech

[1:09:42] accountability practices and

[1:09:42] policies for the future of

[1:09:47] e-bikes?

[1:09:47] The argument you guys are

[1:09:53] having right now is interesting

[1:09:53] .

[1:09:54] Good luck how it can be

[1:09:54] debated.

[1:09:55] I think people should have

[1:09:55] freedom but I guess that can

[1:09:59] always be limitations with

[1:10:00] the need for safety.

[1:10:01] Good luck in finding that good

[1:10:05] balance and good luck on tech

[1:10:06] accountability Good check

[1:10:06] accountability with the future

[1:10:11] of e-bikes for item I need open

[1:10:17] policy and best practices for

[1:10:18] both emergency transport

[1:10:24] billing and collection services

[1:10:25] items.

[1:10:25] I wanted to reiterate the words

[1:10:26] of Dara We're doing our

[1:10:29] ambulance service stuff.

[1:10:30] Do we need a review of how our

[1:10:31] ambulance workers are taking

[1:10:35] care of our people?

[1:10:36] I think it should be front and

[1:10:37] center of how we address

[1:10:41] ourselves at this time and with

[1:10:41] the police issues as well.

[1:10:42] I've been mentioning that I'm

[1:10:43] really surprised at what's

[1:10:48] happening to Andrea.

[1:10:48] I mean she's a pretty innocent

[1:10:49] person and she's getting real

[1:10:53] railroad treatment right now.

[1:10:54] She's her rights are being

[1:10:54] taken away And I think we have

[1:10:55] to really work something right

[1:11:00] now and start better

[1:11:00] principles.

[1:11:01] Good luck how we can do that

[1:11:02] and addressing exactly what

[1:11:05] the Ari was talking about,

[1:11:06] what's going on with how

[1:11:06] ambulance workers take people

[1:11:11] to the hospital, what's going

[1:11:12] on in that time period, Those

[1:11:12] things have to be addressed.

[1:11:16] Is it larger than just Andrea's

[1:11:17] issue here in San Diego?

[1:11:17] We have to consider all these

[1:11:18] things.

[1:11:27] Um, and also for item 51

[1:11:28] improvements and modernization

[1:11:33] project for a an improvement

[1:11:33] I'm learning important lessons

[1:11:34] in the difference between storm

[1:11:40] water storm drain issues and

[1:11:41] these are sewer systems.

[1:11:41] These are all different

[1:11:42] classifications.

[1:11:45] I spoke much a week or so ago

[1:11:46] on my feelings of storm water

[1:11:47] issues when you were working on

[1:11:51] Storm drain issues the related

[1:11:52] but there can be a bit of

[1:11:53] differences and I didn't mark

[1:11:57] those differences I wish I did.

[1:11:58] I really tried to be heartfelt

[1:12:03] in my work last week and I was

[1:12:04] spoken to what is the more

[1:12:04] proper order of how to talk

[1:12:08] about the things But

[1:12:09] nonetheless my words have good

[1:12:10] intentions for everyone and I

[1:12:15] hope we continue to work on our

[1:12:15] stuff and work on clarifying

[1:12:16] language when we clarify each

[1:12:17] other that it can be done

[1:12:17] softly.

[1:12:21] It's I have to learn that too.

[1:12:22] >> Thank you.

[1:12:22] Thank you.

[1:12:23] Natalie Raskin Please state

[1:12:24] which item or items you wish to

[1:12:36] speak to.

[1:12:37] I Can you hear me?

[1:12:37] Yes I can hear you.

[1:12:38] Which item would you like to

[1:12:42] speak on Consent Item one 100

[1:12:43] 100.

[1:12:43] Okay.

[1:12:48] That's Natalie Roski.

[1:12:48] The title is kind of concerning

[1:12:49] to me.

[1:12:54] It does sound a bit boxy More

[1:12:59] on ish.

[1:13:00] It's concerning to me also that

[1:13:00] there's appointed for people to

[1:13:06] this board and I want to go

[1:13:06] fill out an application and

[1:13:07] it's saying it's not taken any

[1:13:09] applications and that there are

[1:13:16] seven seats available.

[1:13:17] I think with the transparency

[1:13:17] that is happening through

[1:13:22] the city and with its

[1:13:23] constituents I'm supposed to be

[1:13:28] a stakeholder but it doesn't

[1:13:29] seem that my stake holding

[1:13:34] seems to be noticed too much

[1:13:35] with this I got a letter from

[1:13:36] the housing Commission that my

[1:13:40] age We will end NOVEMBER 30th

[1:13:41] and then I will no longer be a

[1:13:45] part of any housing commission

[1:13:46] available.

[1:13:52] >> Thank you.

[1:13:52] That does conclude your time.

[1:13:53] The next speaker the caller

[1:13:58] with the last four digits 8700

[1:13:59] Please state the item or

[1:14:10] anybody wish to speak to Am I

[1:14:17] on You are on which item would

[1:14:17] you like to okay Sorry Deputy

[1:14:18] City Clerk Good.

[1:14:21] >> You're doing such a good

[1:14:22] job.

[1:14:28] 5051 Excuse me a hundred 5 or 1

[1:14:33] two, 213 and four and two.

[1:14:33] I'm sorry.

[1:14:34] Did you get that or you want me

[1:14:38] redo it?

[1:14:38] >> I got that.

[1:14:39] You'll have a total of three

[1:14:39] minutes.

[1:14:40] Okay.

[1:14:40] Thank you so much.

[1:14:45] Okay, so 15.

[1:14:45] Yes.

[1:14:46] This is a very important item.

[1:14:46] Yes.

[1:14:51] To be to know to collect for a

[1:14:52] comprehensive contract and

[1:14:56] labor compliance software

[1:14:56] solution support.

[1:14:57] This is the administration and

[1:15:04] enforcement functions of

[1:15:05] the llc the play and the you'll

[1:15:08] see programs Wonderful

[1:15:09] wonderful important item a

[1:15:15] question in today's I.T world

[1:15:15] is ten years too long 51 yes to

[1:15:21] Brown in Caldwell the eeoc

[1:15:22] report 59 employees 11

[1:15:27] subcontractors a question what

[1:15:28] about under-representation in

[1:15:34] the subcontractors do we follow

[1:15:34] that workforce No copy of

[1:15:35] the workforce report from Brown

[1:15:39] and Caldwell It's what

[1:15:40] the county This is one reason

[1:15:44] why item 50 is so crucial 100

[1:15:45] Yes to the appointments for

[1:15:46] the homeless Whether you

[1:15:50] accounted a sense oversight

[1:15:50] committee.

[1:15:51] Thank you.

[1:15:51] Thank you Volunteers for years

[1:15:56] seems appropriate length of

[1:15:57] service revenue from

[1:15:58] the measure security Please

[1:16:03] consider what John Brady said

[1:16:04] this morning.

[1:16:04] I think that's a good thing to

[1:16:09] look at and 5a1 yes and thank

[1:16:10] you to council member Ken Peel

[1:16:15] and all others involve on

[1:16:16] the e-bike prohibition for

[1:16:16] under 12 one people This makes

[1:16:21] sense.

[1:16:22] We need to guide our young

[1:16:23] people and this is very

[1:16:23] important for their safety.

[1:16:28] So a question on that Could

[1:16:28] the lack of resources affect

[1:16:29] enforcement of it?

[1:16:34] 5 or 3 yes.

[1:16:35] But will three on the fence

[1:16:39] with Whitman contract for

[1:16:39] ambulance building and

[1:16:40] collection services?

[1:16:41] Is there a program to help low

[1:16:45] income people with

[1:16:45] the payments?

[1:16:50] I'm sorry back to 502 Yes to

[1:16:51] the First Amendment to all

[1:16:52] involved cdb grant funds and

[1:16:56] thank you This hub system

[1:16:57] timeline has been bumped for

[1:16:57] meeting deadlines.

[1:17:03] Please be careful on that

[1:17:03] involves equity and underserved

[1:17:04] communities.

[1:17:08] It's a good thing.

[1:17:09] So thank you to the Economic

[1:17:14] Development Department.

[1:17:15] So this is chock full of good

[1:17:16] stuff and appreciate your work

[1:17:16] on this letter.

[1:17:19] Well thank you.

[1:17:20] Our next speaker is Katherine

[1:17:24] Douglas.

[1:17:25] >> Please state which item or

[1:17:26] items you would like to speak

[1:17:31] to Safety.

[1:17:31] Okay.

[1:17:32] You'll have one minute.

[1:17:32] Please proceed.

[1:17:36] I strongly support this common

[1:17:37] sense e-bike safety proposal

[1:17:37] unanimously approved by

[1:17:38] the Public Safety Committee.

[1:17:43] There's an urgent need for

[1:17:43] practical measures that will

[1:17:44] enhance public safety and help

[1:17:45] prevent avoidable injuries.

[1:17:49] Setting a minimum age of 12 for

[1:17:50] Class one and Class two e-bike

[1:17:51] riders prohibiting passengers

[1:17:55] unless a bike is specifically

[1:17:55] designed with a permanent

[1:17:56] second seat.

[1:18:01] These are simple common sense

[1:18:01] safety measures.

[1:18:02] These safeguards will protect

[1:18:02] young riders, reduce dangerous

[1:18:06] riding behaviors, make our

[1:18:07] streets safer for everyone.

[1:18:08] As as e-bike usage continues to

[1:18:13] grow, kids need these

[1:18:14] protections now more than ever

[1:18:14] to ensure they can ride safely

[1:18:19] and responsibly while

[1:18:19] protecting those around them.

[1:18:20] I urge you to support

[1:18:24] Councilmember Campos proposal

[1:18:25] and swiftly implement these

[1:18:25] much needed safety

[1:18:25] improvements.

[1:18:30] Thank you very much.

[1:18:31] >> Thank you.

[1:18:31] That does conclude public

[1:18:32] comment on the consent agenda.

[1:18:36] All right.

[1:18:37] Thank you.

[1:18:37] Deputy Clerk turned over to

[1:18:38] council members Questions,

[1:18:39] comments Entertain a motion and

[1:18:39] we will start with council

[1:18:42] member Campbell.

[1:18:43] Thank you Council PRESIDENT

[1:18:43] Thank you to members of

[1:18:44] the public for their

[1:18:44] participation today I will move

[1:18:47] approval of the consent agenda

[1:18:48] and speak briefly to item 5a1

[1:18:53] The regulations on e-bikes.

[1:18:54] This ordinance comes down to

[1:18:54] one simple question for me and

[1:18:55] my constituents If we know

[1:18:59] children are being seriously

[1:19:00] injured on e-bikes and we have

[1:19:00] the legal authority to act, why

[1:19:04] wouldn't we?

[1:19:04] As a parent of two young

[1:19:05] children, a former fifth grade

[1:19:06] teacher as well?

[1:19:06] Child safety is always at

[1:19:09] the top of my mind and I've

[1:19:09] seen the data.

[1:19:10] I've spoken with the families.

[1:19:11] I've spoken to the doctors.

[1:19:11] I've heard from health care

[1:19:15] professionals and educators In

[1:19:16] the message is clear They want

[1:19:16] to see us do more to protect

[1:19:17] our children.

[1:19:20] Today's e-bikes are not

[1:19:21] the bicycles many of us grew up

[1:19:21] writing.

[1:19:22] They travel farther and faster

[1:19:26] often in traffic alongside cars

[1:19:26] And yet many young writers

[1:19:27] haven't received the training

[1:19:28] on the rules of the road or

[1:19:32] safe riding practices.

[1:19:33] So this ordinance uses

[1:19:36] the authority provided by ab

[1:19:37] 2234 to establish common sense

[1:19:37] guardrails focused on education

[1:19:41] and accountability and safety.

[1:19:42] The goal is not to punish

[1:19:43] anyone particularly children.

[1:19:47] The goal is to prevent injuries

[1:19:48] before they happen.

[1:19:49] I want to particularly thank

[1:19:49] Assembly member Tasha Burner

[1:19:52] for authoring ab 2234 and

[1:19:53] Senator Catherine Blake Speer

[1:19:53] whose upcoming legislation will

[1:19:57] put more responsibility on

[1:19:57] manufacturers.

[1:19:58] And that has my full support as

[1:19:58] well.

[1:20:03] E-bikes are and can be a great

[1:20:04] transportation option.

[1:20:08] But safety cannot be optional.

[1:20:08] So when children are being

[1:20:09] seriously injured and other

[1:20:10] pedestrians walking around or

[1:20:13] being injured doing nothing

[1:20:13] can't be an option.

[1:20:14] Our state legislature allows us

[1:20:18] allows for this ordinance to be

[1:20:19] a tool to protect children and

[1:20:19] protect everyone really and

[1:20:23] collect evidence for several

[1:20:24] years to help shape policy into

[1:20:25] the future.

[1:20:25] This ordinance is reasonable.

[1:20:29] It's balanced and the necessary

[1:20:29] step to protect young riders,

[1:20:30] their families and everyone who

[1:20:31] shares our roads and sidewalks.

[1:20:35] So with that I respectfully ask

[1:20:36] support of the Council.

[1:20:36] And that concludes my motion.

[1:20:37] Council PRESIDENT All right.

[1:20:37] Thank you.

[1:20:40] Council Member Kennedy So we

[1:20:41] have a motion to move

[1:20:42] the consent items not seen in

[1:20:44] the light.

[1:20:45] I'll second it and I will thank

[1:20:45] you Council Member for bringing

[1:20:49] the item forward and I will

[1:20:50] join you in expressing

[1:20:56] the frustration for the good

[1:20:57] work that Senator Blake's mayor

[1:20:58] and Assembly member Barnard

[1:20:58] have been trying to have common

[1:21:00] sense legislation and having a

[1:21:01] tough time up in Sacramento but

[1:21:02] at least we have this.

[1:21:06] Thank you for taking that

[1:21:06] opportunity for the pilot

[1:21:07] program And I thank you to

[1:21:07] the city attorney for

[1:21:10] clarifying that this will have

[1:21:11] the same term of whatever of

[1:21:12] the state legislation is going

[1:21:17] forward.

[1:21:18] So we have a motion by Council

[1:21:18] member Campi and a second by

[1:21:20] myself to move the consent

[1:21:21] items will go next to council

[1:21:22] member Ella Rivera.

[1:21:25] >> Thank you Council PRESIDENT

[1:21:26] I will first be asking some

[1:21:31] questions about item 100

[1:21:32] the appointments to

[1:21:32] the homeless revenue account

[1:21:36] Citizen Oversight Committee.

[1:21:37] This has nothing to do with it

[1:21:42] Specific resumes or

[1:21:42] qualifications of the folks who

[1:21:47] are being nominated today.

[1:21:47] But I do think that it's

[1:21:48] incredibly important that there

[1:21:52] eventually be folks who have

[1:21:53] lived experience on that

[1:21:56] committee That's especially

[1:21:56] important since as was

[1:22:01] mentioned in public comment

[1:22:02] the service providers will

[1:22:02] almost certainly be excluded

[1:22:06] from participating.

[1:22:11] That experience of having been

[1:22:12] homeless tried to navigate

[1:22:17] the system seeing what works

[1:22:18] and what doesn't work from

[1:22:18] various perspectives is

[1:22:22] incredibly important.

[1:22:22] We know that when the city has

[1:22:23] done our best work on

[1:22:26] homelessness it has been very

[1:22:27] much guided by people with that

[1:22:31] experience at the table not as

[1:22:31] a as an afterthought, not as

[1:22:36] window dressing but as you know

[1:22:37] in a meaningful way that

[1:22:37] actually helps inform

[1:22:38] the direction that is being

[1:22:40] being headed.

[1:22:41] So I am happy to support

[1:22:42] the appointments of the folks

[1:22:45] who are nominated today.

[1:22:46] I will not be supporting any

[1:22:46] additional appointments to this

[1:22:50] committee until there are until

[1:22:51] at least someone with lived

[1:22:55] experience is appointed after

[1:22:55] this.

[1:22:56] I just want to be transparent

[1:22:57] about that because I do think

[1:23:00] it's it's critical to ensure

[1:23:00] that the intended effect of

[1:23:04] this committee lands in the way

[1:23:05] that it's supposed to land in

[1:23:09] terms of impact item as 5 or 1

[1:23:10] appreciate the work that's been

[1:23:14] done here.

[1:23:15] The one thing that I will flag

[1:23:19] is wanting to be sure that we

[1:23:22] are tracking what

[1:23:23] the enforcement of this

[1:23:24] ordinance looks like Once that

[1:23:28] does go into effect there are

[1:23:28] already gross

[1:23:33] disproportionality in terms of

[1:23:33] enforcement of the variety of

[1:23:34] laws in the city.

[1:23:40] Young people experience those

[1:23:44] disproportionate enforcements

[1:23:45] in a significant way.

[1:23:46] The school to prison pipeline

[1:23:49] is real.

[1:23:50] The youth to prison pipeline is

[1:23:55] real And I want to be sure that

[1:23:59] this ordinance is being

[1:24:00] enforced with the intended

[1:24:01] effect of protecting young

[1:24:04] people from harm not as a

[1:24:09] pretext to additional contacts

[1:24:10] with law from law enforcement

[1:24:10] to young people especially

[1:24:14] young people of color.

[1:24:15] I do I, I will be very closely

[1:24:18] looking to see that black and

[1:24:19] brown youth are not being

[1:24:20] disproportionately targeted for

[1:24:24] enforcement of this law.

[1:24:25] So understand the desired

[1:24:25] effect.

[1:24:29] I too have been very concerned

[1:24:33] at times when I've seen young

[1:24:33] folks bombing down hills on

[1:24:38] e-bikes and all of that All

[1:24:43] that can go wrong there and

[1:24:44] again just want to be sure that

[1:24:47] we're not opening the door to

[1:24:48] disproportionate and

[1:24:48] unnecessary interactions

[1:24:57] between young folks and the in

[1:24:57] law enforcement or the justice

[1:24:58] system.

[1:24:59] And I'll just play out one

[1:25:02] example where we could see this

[1:25:05] happening where a young person

[1:25:06] 13 or 14 years old, maybe 15,

[1:25:10] 16 or 17 depending on how

[1:25:11] creative folks want to be in

[1:25:16] terms of of enforcing this or

[1:25:16] attempting to enforce this law

[1:25:21] gets stopped with the pretext

[1:25:21] of checking to make sure that

[1:25:22] the person is of

[1:25:25] the appropriate age to be

[1:25:26] riding a class one or class two

[1:25:30] e-bike and that initiates an

[1:25:30] unnecessary contact between

[1:25:35] that young person and

[1:25:35] the system.

[1:25:36] If that person is not carrying

[1:25:39] id you can kind of see it going

[1:25:40] from there in terms of what

[1:25:44] that contact can look like And

[1:25:44] again thinking about my

[1:25:45] constituents, the young folks

[1:25:46] that I worked with over

[1:25:49] the years who have have had

[1:25:53] negative experiences that very

[1:25:54] rarely involve them actually

[1:25:57] causing harm but has

[1:26:02] permanently clouded their their

[1:26:03] perception of the city, their

[1:26:07] perception of public safety.

[1:26:08] I want to make sure that this

[1:26:12] doesn't open the door for that

[1:26:12] .

[1:26:13] And then lastly just want to

[1:26:13] make sure that we continue to

[1:26:17] to encourage folks to to ride

[1:26:18] when possible that we encourage

[1:26:18] folks to develop those habits

[1:26:21] rather than discourage that.

[1:26:22] That's important to me as well.

[1:26:23] So I appreciate the intended

[1:26:23] effect.

[1:26:27] I will support the motion in

[1:26:28] front of us but we'll be

[1:26:28] looking closely to make sure

[1:26:31] that it's not being enforced in

[1:26:32] a disproportionate way.

[1:26:32] Thank you.

[1:26:33] Council PRESIDENT All right.

[1:26:34] Thank you, Council Member de La

[1:26:34] Rivera.

[1:26:36] We'll go next to Council member

[1:26:37] Foster Yes, thank you.

[1:26:37] >> Council PRESIDENT.

[1:26:41] i just would like to register I

[1:26:42] will be supporting the consent

[1:26:45] agenda but I would like to

[1:26:46] register a no vote for item

[1:26:51] number 50.

[1:26:52] The new contract with Biji

[1:26:56] would be to g Now again we are

[1:27:00] ending a contract with a

[1:27:00] certified black women owned

[1:27:05] woman owned business and we are

[1:27:05] entering into a new agreement

[1:27:09] with a non certified firm at

[1:27:09] double the cost and that is

[1:27:13] very problematic for me.

[1:27:14] So I will be registering a no

[1:27:15] vote.

[1:27:15] All right.

[1:27:19] Thank you, Councilmember Foster

[1:27:19] .

[1:27:20] We'll go back to council member

[1:27:21] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.

[1:27:21] I appreciate it.

[1:27:23] Councilmember Eloy Rivera's

[1:27:24] points are completely spot on

[1:27:28] on the historical and societal

[1:27:29] effects that he's talking

[1:27:29] about.

[1:27:32] I just want to point out about

[1:27:32] 20 to 34 does account for

[1:27:33] collection of the data that

[1:27:34] he's pointing out that are

[1:27:36] important.

[1:27:37] Subsection d of that state law

[1:27:38] says that the when we submit

[1:27:41] the data to the state to

[1:27:42] the state legislature as a

[1:27:42] result of this pilot program,

[1:27:46] it does include how many times

[1:27:47] a person is stopped while under

[1:27:50] the age of 12 but then where

[1:27:51] they an officer thought they

[1:27:55] were under the age of 12 but

[1:27:55] was in fact over the age limit.

[1:27:56] The officer does have to take

[1:27:59] down information about

[1:28:00] perceived race, ethnicity,

[1:28:01] gender and approximate age of

[1:28:04] the person stopped and provided

[1:28:05] that the identification of

[1:28:06] these characteristics is solely

[1:28:06] based on the observation or

[1:28:07] perception of the police

[1:28:09] officer who initiated

[1:28:10] the traffic stop.

[1:28:10] So I appreciate his points on

[1:28:14] that And note that the state

[1:28:14] legislature does require us to

[1:28:15] collect and submit that

[1:28:19] information to protect against

[1:28:19] the issues he brought up.

[1:28:20] So thank you for those points.

[1:28:20] All right.

[1:28:24] Thank you, sir.

[1:28:25] Not seeing anyone else in

[1:28:25] the lights.

[1:28:26] We have a motion by

[1:28:27] Councilmember Campos second by

[1:28:27] myself.

[1:28:28] Deputy Clerk Please call

[1:28:28] the roll.

[1:28:29] I have set up the voting system

[1:28:30] .

[1:28:44] Please cast your vote Count

[1:28:45] Councilmember Woodburn, can we

[1:28:46] get a voice vote from you as

[1:28:46] well?

[1:28:47] Yes, thank you.

[1:28:49] The item passes unanimously

[1:28:50] with district for a casting a

[1:28:53] no vote on item number 50 and

[1:28:57] districts one and districts

[1:28:58] five and District two and

[1:28:58] District five absent.

[1:29:01] Thank you Council PRESIDENT.

[1:29:02] >> Stephanie's messed up my

[1:29:06] head with that we have any

[1:29:07] comments by mayors office

[1:29:10] council member City attorney

[1:29:11] Independent Budget analyst.

[1:29:15] City Clerk The only comment I

[1:29:16] have to follow up on

[1:29:17] Councilmember Eloy Rivera's

[1:29:19] comments regarding item 101 of

[1:29:20] the appointees does have lived

[1:29:21] experience but I completely

[1:29:24] understand your concern and

[1:29:25] your request that for

[1:29:25] the remaining three

[1:29:26] appointments to keep that top

[1:29:30] of mind so completely.

[1:29:30] All right.

[1:29:31] Thank you for that input Kota

[1:29:34] not seeing anybody else we will

[1:29:35] now take up non agenda public

[1:29:39] comment.

[1:29:40] Council members respect and

[1:29:40] appreciate the public's input

[1:29:41] and are fully committed to

[1:29:43] protecting every participant's

[1:29:44] free speech rights at council

[1:29:44] and committee meetings.

[1:29:48] Deputy Clerk Please proceed

[1:29:48] with public comment.

[1:29:49] Thank you.

[1:29:52] Council PRESIDENT Per Rule 2.7

[1:29:53] on Agenda Public comment is an

[1:29:53] opportunity for members of

[1:29:57] the public to comment on items

[1:29:58] that are not on the agenda but

[1:29:58] within the subject matter

[1:29:58] jurisdiction of the City

[1:30:01] Council.

[1:30:02] Each speaker will have two

[1:30:02] minutes.

[1:30:05] Please note if there are eight

[1:30:05] or more speakers on a single

[1:30:06] topic the maximum time for

[1:30:09] the topic will be 16 minutes.

[1:30:10] If you are in the committee

[1:30:10] room please submit your speaker

[1:30:14] slip.

[1:30:15] If you are joining us virtually

[1:30:15] please raise your hand to speak

[1:30:18] by tapping the Raise your hand

[1:30:20] icon or if you are a call in

[1:30:23] participant star nine.

[1:30:24] We will begin with in person

[1:30:28] comment Maximillian Schmitt

[1:30:29] Please come forward.

[1:30:29] You'll have two minutes to

[1:30:38] speak.

[1:30:38] Communist countries across

[1:30:42] the world are eliminating

[1:30:43] dissidents and killing off

[1:30:47] anyone who opposes them and how

[1:30:48] they do this Is there actually

[1:30:52] people What if I told you that

[1:30:53] if someone does a hermetic

[1:30:57] chant in a masonic lodge they

[1:30:57] have the ability to look

[1:30:58] through your eyes and read your

[1:30:59] mind and access your

[1:31:01] consciousness completely.

[1:31:02] And what's going on is

[1:31:03] communist countries.

[1:31:06] If someone's a dissident they

[1:31:07] will actually surround

[1:31:08] the dissident and they will

[1:31:12] speak gibberish half gibberish

[1:31:13] half on like patronizing their

[1:31:16] private thoughts to drive them

[1:31:17] mentally ill to on suicide or

[1:31:21] mental illness or drug

[1:31:21] addiction.

[1:31:22] And it's it's extremely cruel

[1:31:22] and unusual.

[1:31:23] What's the equivalent of

[1:31:25] wearing headphones speaking

[1:31:26] gibberish or patronizing your

[1:31:30] private thoughts nonstop and

[1:31:31] that those communist tactics to

[1:31:31] remove dissidents has sadly

[1:31:35] spilled over into San Diego

[1:31:36] where I'm someone who's done a

[1:31:41] lot of grassroots on my own on

[1:31:42] my own free time I took it upon

[1:31:46] myself to go to the store and

[1:31:47] get a Trump flag and wave a

[1:31:50] Trump flag on the corner.

[1:31:51] That's what I like to do for

[1:31:54] fun And after that happened I

[1:31:55] started to get surrounded by

[1:31:59] people telepathic Freemasons

[1:32:00] speaking gibberish nonstop,

[1:32:04] driving me insane, driving me

[1:32:05] crazy And I wanted to say

[1:32:06] the gop doesn't do that.

[1:32:09] We don't target people who

[1:32:10] don't like the gop and try to

[1:32:14] drive them crazy and kill them

[1:32:14] with driving them crazy

[1:32:15] gibberish.

[1:32:19] That's what communists do and

[1:32:19] that's what liberals do.

[1:32:20] And I want to make it clear

[1:32:23] that liberals do not care about

[1:32:23] human rights.

[1:32:24] They're supposed to be like

[1:32:25] the party that cares about

[1:32:28] human rights, cares about any

[1:32:32] hate against homosexuals, cares

[1:32:33] about illegal immigrants.

[1:32:33] However they're using communist

[1:32:38] tactics to kill people who

[1:32:38] don't like them.

[1:32:39] >> So liberals aren't the party

[1:32:39] of human rights.

[1:32:42] They're phonies.

[1:32:42] Thank you.

[1:32:43] That does conclude your time.

[1:32:51] Next up is allegedly Andre

[1:32:52] lived to experience should be a

[1:32:57] requirement not for that but

[1:32:57] whatever I mean because I feel

[1:32:58] like you're just saying that

[1:33:01] you're going to do that and

[1:33:02] role I would actually say that

[1:33:06] collecting that guilt data on

[1:33:07] children under 12 could be very

[1:33:07] concerning with the things that

[1:33:11] happen with children and data

[1:33:12] collection with your guys's

[1:33:16] cannabis item yesterday.

[1:33:17] I'm wondering if you know that

[1:33:17] in DECEMBER that it got

[1:33:21] reclassified as a schedule

[1:33:22] three like ketamine and so it's

[1:33:22] going to have to be

[1:33:26] pharmaceutical grade and have

[1:33:27] like fda approved manufacturing

[1:33:31] and all of these things.

[1:33:31] So as you're bringing in these

[1:33:32] requirements I mean the goal is

[1:33:33] to like get the cannabis

[1:33:35] industry out of here.

[1:33:36] I mean it's just going to go

[1:33:37] back to back to the black

[1:33:41] market but it's going to put

[1:33:41] dispensaries out of business.

[1:33:42] So as you're talking about

[1:33:43] deliveries here and there, you

[1:33:46] know, reclassifying this again,

[1:33:46] that's why it's like back and

[1:33:47] forth.

[1:33:47] I mean it's like a roller

[1:33:50] coaster ride.

[1:33:51] How do you keep up with that?

[1:33:52] But you should think about that

[1:33:53] as you're bringing in

[1:33:55] enforcement and going back to

[1:33:56] Andrea Ebbing it's very

[1:34:00] concerning to know that they

[1:34:00] have deemed her incompetent

[1:34:05] because she's not incompetent

[1:34:05] and a psychological evaluation

[1:34:10] The evaluator said she was

[1:34:10] competent and then somebody

[1:34:11] from the county like a social

[1:34:12] worker came in and started

[1:34:15] asking her political questions.

[1:34:15] And so if regardless of that,

[1:34:19] the judge has the deciding

[1:34:20] factor in a pc 1368 So

[1:34:24] the problem is is that this is

[1:34:25] going to stall the proceedings

[1:34:26] and she could potentially go

[1:34:29] into a mental facility and be

[1:34:30] drugged up And this is a way to

[1:34:31] silence people and it's just

[1:34:34] really sad to know that she has

[1:34:35] been fighting for her children

[1:34:38] fighting to report crimes that

[1:34:39] have happened against her and

[1:34:40] this is what takes place.

[1:34:40] And her attorney prior to

[1:34:44] saying that she was incompetent

[1:34:44] like a few weeks prior had

[1:34:49] filed a dismissal of charges

[1:34:49] because the arrest was

[1:34:50] unlawful.

[1:34:53] So there is a huge problem here

[1:34:54] that they have now deemed her

[1:34:54] incompetent when all

[1:34:55] the charges could be.

[1:34:58] >> That does conclude your time

[1:34:59] .

[1:35:00] Next up is Lay brother Stephen

[1:35:04] g.

[1:35:04] Said love.

[1:35:05] Please come forward to

[1:35:06] the microphone.

[1:35:11] You'll have two minutes.

[1:35:11] I understand you have some

[1:35:13] media you'd like to project if

[1:35:23] possible.

[1:35:28] Good afternoon San Diego City

[1:35:29] Council and Citizens I am Lee

[1:35:29] Brother Steven Gerrard should

[1:35:34] love ski I'd like to open up

[1:35:34] with holy Scripture because

[1:35:35] that's a good thing to do.

[1:35:38] I think And I'm going to open

[1:35:41] up to Proverbs ten in honor of

[1:35:46] we've just celebrated Father's

[1:35:47] Day Mother's Day, the Father's

[1:35:48] Day time frame, the proverbs of

[1:35:52] Solomon a wise son make of

[1:35:53] the glad father but a foolish

[1:35:53] son is the heaviness of his

[1:35:56] mother treasures of wickedness,

[1:36:01] profit nothing but

[1:36:02] righteousness delivers from

[1:36:02] death.

[1:36:07] The Lord will not suffer

[1:36:07] the soul of the righteous

[1:36:11] the famished But he cast away

[1:36:11] the substance of the wicked.

[1:36:15] He become a poor that delyth

[1:36:16] with a slack hand but the hand

[1:36:21] of the diligent make it through

[1:36:21] rich he that gather it And

[1:36:26] summer is a wise son but he

[1:36:27] that sleep in harvest is a son

[1:36:30] that cause of the shame and

[1:36:31] finally blessings are upon

[1:36:35] the head of the just but

[1:36:35] violence covers the mouth of

[1:36:40] the wicked to I delivered all

[1:36:40] of you a wonderful Bible

[1:36:45] bookmark I travel the country

[1:36:45] and I have spoken at Standing

[1:36:49] Eagle in the past amplifying

[1:36:49] new usa preborn personhood

[1:36:53] cities since I am a pro-life

[1:36:54] speaker What I wanted to

[1:36:58] display before you is that I

[1:36:59] attended the California MARCH

[1:37:00] for Life on MARCH 16th of this

[1:37:04] year in Sacramento and

[1:37:04] the document up there shows

[1:37:08] that about 4000 citizen sons

[1:37:09] attended the wonderful MARCH

[1:37:12] for For Life because we are

[1:37:13] marching for the sanctity of

[1:37:13] life.

[1:37:17] We all here in council chambers

[1:37:18] started off our journey of life

[1:37:18] in our mother's.

[1:37:22] Fatherhood starts in

[1:37:23] the mother's.

[1:37:23] Motherhood starts in

[1:37:24] the mother's.

[1:37:28] Childhood starts in the mother.

[1:37:29] Thank you.

[1:37:29] That does conclude your time.

[1:37:30] Thank you And I'll continue to

[1:37:32] update you on the new

[1:37:33] possibilities opportunities.

[1:37:33] Thank you.

[1:37:37] Next speaker is Bob Kozinski My

[1:37:38] video.

[1:37:51] Okay we'll bring the video up

[1:37:51] Bob Kozinski here.

[1:37:52] >> a week ago today I was hang

[1:37:53] gliding at Dockweiler State

[1:37:56] Beach in Los Angeles under

[1:37:57] the Dockweiler waiver that has

[1:38:00] been in place since 2017

[1:38:00] the public has been able to

[1:38:01] hang glider at Dockweiler Beach

[1:38:04] for nearly ten years under that

[1:38:05] waiver a decade ago however,

[1:38:09] hang gliding at Dockweiler was

[1:38:10] not allowed by the county of

[1:38:11] Los Angeles without use by

[1:38:11] membership.

[1:38:14] Fortunately that all changed

[1:38:15] due to a sequence of events

[1:38:16] that started right here in San

[1:38:19] Diego On JULY 24th, 2011.

[1:38:19] A female student named Shannon

[1:38:24] Hamby was taking lessons at

[1:38:24] Tori through the city's

[1:38:25] concessionaire.

[1:38:26] She was under radio supervision

[1:38:29] when she was flown directly

[1:38:29] into the path of another

[1:38:29] student.

[1:38:30] She crashed and was badly

[1:38:34] injured.

[1:38:34] I was contacted by Shannon's

[1:38:35] lawyer and asked to testify as

[1:38:38] an expert witness and I did.

[1:38:39] My testimony in SEPTEMBER of

[1:38:43] 2014 was solid and the case was

[1:38:43] quickly settled in Shannon's

[1:38:44] favor for an undisclosed

[1:38:44] amount.

[1:38:48] Uber ended up losing their

[1:38:48] insurance coverage by November

[1:38:49] of 2014.

[1:38:53] I was retaliated against by

[1:38:54] your concessionaire who

[1:38:54] conspired with you spend

[1:38:57] the spring of 2015 to have me

[1:38:58] expelled for my testimony which

[1:39:02] ended my ability to fly at all

[1:39:02] use for sites including Torrey

[1:39:03] Pines and Dockweiler.

[1:39:06] In early 2017 we met with newly

[1:39:07] elected Barbara Bree for help

[1:39:11] Barbara Bree suggested a flight

[1:39:12] waiver to solve the problem but

[1:39:15] she never followed through.

[1:39:16] Joel Foulston I also spoke to

[1:39:17] the Los Angeles County Board of

[1:39:20] Supervisors While Barbara Bree

[1:39:21] did nothing here in San Diego,

[1:39:25] Los Angeles Supervisor Janice

[1:39:25] Hahn stepped up and actually

[1:39:26] instituted a waiver.

[1:39:30] The first Dockweiler waivers

[1:39:30] were issued to Joe Foust, Frank

[1:39:34] Culver and myself on JULY 26th,

[1:39:34] 2017 and we have flown under

[1:39:39] those waivers without incident

[1:39:39] .

[1:39:40] Ever since Barbara Barrie

[1:39:41] dodged the issue for the rest

[1:39:44] of her term until her failed

[1:39:44] mayoral bid in 2020.

[1:39:45] Joe LaCava has followed her

[1:39:49] lead throughout his entire term

[1:39:50] reactivate the Torrey Pines

[1:39:50] City Park Advisory Board and

[1:39:54] institute a Torrey Pines flight

[1:39:55] waiver now.

[1:39:55] >> Thank you, Tom.

[1:39:57] Thank you.

[1:40:07] Next speaker is Anthony Ralphs

[1:40:12] Good.

[1:40:13] Good afternoon City Council.

[1:40:17] I'm sure you're probably

[1:40:18] wondering what the flowers are

[1:40:18] for.

[1:40:19] The flowers are from Dee Flock,

[1:40:22] San Diego and they are to all

[1:40:23] of our city council members who

[1:40:23] voted against Flock and who

[1:40:27] respect their constituencies

[1:40:28] privacy rights.

[1:40:28] And I actually got some.

[1:40:31] I tried to find some blue

[1:40:32] irises since they're

[1:40:32] the official flower of

[1:40:33] the city.

[1:40:36] I wasn't able to find any But I

[1:40:37] did get these irises that

[1:40:37] really resemble the blue irises

[1:40:41] And I think that they're really

[1:40:42] pretty.

[1:40:42] I wanted to give these two are

[1:40:46] independent budget analysts to

[1:40:46] Charles Modica because he

[1:40:51] advised the city council to cut

[1:40:51] flock from the mayor's budget.

[1:40:52] And because he's

[1:40:56] the independent budget analyst,

[1:40:56] we should be listening to him.

[1:40:57] We should be respecting

[1:41:00] the financial input that he

[1:41:01] gives our city and the fact

[1:41:01] that we are not and the fact

[1:41:02] that we are disrespecting our

[1:41:05] constituent his privacy and

[1:41:06] that we are giving an already

[1:41:09] overbloated police budget even

[1:41:10] more money and even more

[1:41:11] surveillance technology to use

[1:41:11] against us is extremely

[1:41:15] concerning.

[1:41:16] In this last week I saw a

[1:41:20] report that was detailing 17

[1:41:20] cases of police stalking their

[1:41:25] former ex-girlfriends using

[1:41:25] Floc a lpr technology.

[1:41:30] Just yesterday there was a

[1:41:31] shooting and it was not stopped

[1:41:35] due to Floc a lpr technology.

[1:41:36] That's the second time that

[1:41:36] Floc has failed in the last

[1:41:37] month.

[1:41:40] If I were to fail at my job

[1:41:40] like that in significant

[1:41:44] instances where I was expected

[1:41:45] to give a performance and I

[1:41:45] didn't deliver I would be

[1:41:49] immediately fired.

[1:41:50] I don't understand why as dpd

[1:41:54] continues to be shown

[1:41:55] the leniency that they've been

[1:41:55] shown and I'm not sure how

[1:41:56] we're going to hold them

[1:41:59] accountable when we have $42

[1:42:00] million in the public liability

[1:42:04] fund that they've blown through

[1:42:05] and all of the lawsuits that

[1:42:10] they've cost the city and we're

[1:42:10] not done paying those.

[1:42:11] I would like to see this

[1:42:11] council focus on police

[1:42:14] accountability.

[1:42:15] >> Thank you.

[1:42:16] That does conclude your time

[1:42:16] And our city clerk staff can

[1:42:19] help distribute the flowers.

[1:42:20] That does conclude in-person

[1:42:20] public comment.

[1:42:24] I've started the five minute

[1:42:25] timer.

[1:42:25] In the committee room we will

[1:42:29] now turn to the virtual queue

[1:42:30] in which there are currently

[1:42:30] ten participants requesting to

[1:42:35] speak.

[1:42:35] We will go first to Blair

[1:42:36] Beekman.

[1:42:39] Please begin your comments.

[1:42:39] All right.

[1:42:44] Thank you First for me to go

[1:42:45] first myself.

[1:42:47] But first as I am also really

[1:42:48] trying I think we can address

[1:42:53] our issues in new ways.

[1:42:53] I'm hoping that there is simply

[1:42:56] a can I feel there's

[1:42:57] the continuing growing

[1:42:58] political will in the past year

[1:42:58] in San Diego and across

[1:43:02] the country to no longer do

[1:43:03] business with Fox as block

[1:43:03] maybe developing its ideas its

[1:43:06] data within the context of

[1:43:07] supporting international

[1:43:07] policies.

[1:43:08] The work I have been describing

[1:43:12] for months now How about

[1:43:13] the city of Oakland County of

[1:43:13] Alameda are creating a process

[1:43:17] of full community input best

[1:43:17] practices to leapfrog for a new

[1:43:21] better principles approach

[1:43:22] under this is simply a good

[1:43:23] model San Diego can refer to at

[1:43:28] this time a good beginning one

[1:43:36] I simply should be continuing

[1:43:36] community dialog and

[1:43:37] conversations now formerly

[1:43:38] leader Carpenter Fox and to

[1:43:39] look for a better principal

[1:43:42] vendor or do we simply give up

[1:43:43] the vendor process altogether

[1:43:43] and work out new data

[1:43:48] collection arrangements

[1:43:49] securely So owners of new San

[1:43:49] Diego ale yards at the same

[1:43:55] time San Diego we can be

[1:43:56] working towards something of a

[1:43:56] yearly review process.

[1:44:00] I feel that can be important

[1:44:01] also at this time and how to

[1:44:02] create a small reduction of

[1:44:05] unnecessary or redundant

[1:44:06] surveillance technology used

[1:44:06] from local San Diego

[1:44:10] neighborhoods And at the same

[1:44:10] same time this will not take

[1:44:11] much away from the current use

[1:44:14] of surveillance technology

[1:44:14] within San Diego neighborhood

[1:44:19] Public safety concerns.

[1:44:19] I'm also hoping this can

[1:44:20] develop a consistent,

[1:44:21] responsible yearly reduction of

[1:44:24] unnecessary unnecessary

[1:44:24] surveillance tech while at

[1:44:29] the same time developing better

[1:44:30] principled, more responsible

[1:44:30] community tech use with clear

[1:44:34] oversight.

[1:44:35] I think it can work.

[1:44:35] Monica Montgomery Step two

[1:44:39] years ago Gail yours would be

[1:44:39] reduced.

[1:44:40] That was that was on her mind

[1:44:44] with new APIs and good luck we

[1:44:45] can talk more about your use of

[1:44:46] these accounts conclude your

[1:44:49] time Next speaker is Terry and

[1:44:49] Skelly.

[1:44:52] Please begin.

[1:44:58] Good afternoon San Diego City

[1:44:59] Council Chair McCarver My name

[1:45:00] is Terry and Skelly and I work

[1:45:03] with my planning group on good

[1:45:03] public health and safety

[1:45:04] policies in land use decisions.

[1:45:08] I spoke yesterday and support

[1:45:09] for item 2 or 2 regarding

[1:45:09] creating more comprehensive

[1:45:12] policies regarding popular

[1:45:12] rates.

[1:45:13] I truly appreciate the city's

[1:45:17] efforts to know who is selling

[1:45:17] pot in our cities and where

[1:45:18] the pot is coming from since it

[1:45:22] doesn't seem to have a physical

[1:45:22] location within the city.

[1:45:26] I was concerned that there were

[1:45:27] those yesterday He wanted to

[1:45:27] have a permit from other

[1:45:31] another jurisdiction and then

[1:45:31] wanted to deliver in San Diego

[1:45:32] but did not want to register

[1:45:36] for a permit to deliver in San

[1:45:36] Diego.

[1:45:37] That was a scary declaration

[1:45:41] and made me wonder about all

[1:45:41] those pot entrepreneurs who

[1:45:42] continuously tell us that they

[1:45:46] are providing a necessary

[1:45:46] service.

[1:45:47] However, they don't want to

[1:45:50] abide by the rules and register

[1:45:51] in the city of San Diego to

[1:45:55] deliver pot That makes

[1:45:56] the public wonder if the real

[1:45:56] motive behind selling pot is

[1:46:00] just money which has always

[1:46:01] been the motive behind selling

[1:46:01] drugs.

[1:46:05] So I especially appreciate

[1:46:06] the work of City Councilperson

[1:46:07] Camille and staff for creating

[1:46:10] a system of fines associated

[1:46:11] with enforcement against pot

[1:46:11] deliveries.

[1:46:15] Doing so illegally.

[1:46:16] I also appreciate the larger

[1:46:20] dialog regarding enforcement

[1:46:21] commitments for the police

[1:46:21] department and code

[1:46:22] enforcement.

[1:46:25] >> Thank you for hearing my

[1:46:25] issues this morning or

[1:46:26] afternoon.

[1:46:29] Thank you.

[1:46:30] Our next speaker is Barbara

[1:46:30] Gordon.

[1:46:34] Please begin.

[1:46:34] >> Thank you.

[1:46:38] As a public health educator I

[1:46:39] wanted to share with you

[1:46:40] the American Medical

[1:46:43] Association's recently adopted

[1:46:44] new policy calling for

[1:46:45] the prohibition of flavored

[1:46:48] cannabis vaping products in

[1:46:49] cannabis dispensaries, hemp

[1:46:53] product retailers and other

[1:46:53] retail outlets while also

[1:46:58] advocating for legislate

[1:46:58] changes.

[1:46:59] Their position reflects

[1:46:59] the organization's growing

[1:47:03] concern about public health

[1:47:04] risks associated with flavored

[1:47:04] vaping products and their

[1:47:08] appeal to adolescents and young

[1:47:09] adults, according to the ama.

[1:47:13] Flavors such as fruit candy

[1:47:13] menthol can make vaping

[1:47:17] products more attractive to

[1:47:18] youth, increasing

[1:47:18] the likelihood of initiation

[1:47:22] and long term substance use.

[1:47:22] The new policy extends to

[1:47:23] the ama's longstanding position

[1:47:27] reflect in a broader effort to

[1:47:28] reduce youth exposure to an

[1:47:32] inhaled psychoactive

[1:47:33] substances.

[1:47:33] The report says there is no

[1:47:37] public health justification for

[1:47:38] flavors that enhance the appeal

[1:47:42] of cannabis based products

[1:47:43] particularly when youth vaping

[1:47:47] remains a significant concern.

[1:47:48] Ama leaders leaders have

[1:47:52] emphasized that protecting

[1:47:52] young people from addiction and

[1:47:53] potential health harms should

[1:47:57] take precedence over

[1:47:58] the commercialization and

[1:47:58] availability.

[1:47:58] >> Thank you.

[1:48:02] That does conclude your time.

[1:48:06] Our next speaker is caller with

[1:48:06] last four digits 8700.

[1:48:10] Please begin.

[1:48:16] Thank you, Joyce And yet

[1:48:20] the beautiful tapestry the lens

[1:48:21] through which we look at and

[1:48:26] see life here's my lens.

[1:48:30] What if we are all pollinators

[1:48:31] in city government?

[1:48:32] After 20 years in my work as an

[1:48:36] activist I see a common thread

[1:48:36] through it all.

[1:48:40] We are all working to see what

[1:48:41] works best.

[1:48:45] We now know that bees are

[1:48:45] connected to a bigger picture

[1:48:46] that includes a mysterious

[1:48:50] miracle.

[1:48:51] Yes, the mysterious miracle is

[1:48:55] a bumpy yet something is

[1:48:55] working.

[1:49:00] We're still here.

[1:49:01] Life is still here.

[1:49:05] I woke up feeling different

[1:49:10] this morning about cgt, about

[1:49:14] public power, about fees,

[1:49:15] parking fees, budget abuse

[1:49:21] parks, libraries, even floor

[1:49:21] and so forth.

[1:49:25] We are doing something that

[1:49:25] the whole world is doing.

[1:49:26] We are doing what we are meant

[1:49:31] to do.

[1:49:31] We are fulfilling our role as

[1:49:35] pollinators of the great circle

[1:49:36] of life.

[1:49:40] In my opinion we are so lucky

[1:49:41] We are just happened to be here

[1:49:46] in San Diego.

[1:49:47] We are just so lucky and we are

[1:49:47] connected.

[1:49:52] I believe in that.

[1:49:53] i really do And I just I'm

[1:49:57] getting stronger and stronger

[1:49:57] about it through all these

[1:49:58] difficult days.

[1:50:02] It's all connected.

[1:50:02] I believe in that.

[1:50:07] So I hope you'll consider that

[1:50:07] too.

[1:50:08] And I'm sure you're there

[1:50:09] already on many levels.

[1:50:09] Maybe you're even the best of

[1:50:10] the best.

[1:50:13] Help us with our new vision if

[1:50:13] you are.

[1:50:14] So I believe in all of that and

[1:50:18] I believe in the beautiful

[1:50:19] tapestry.

[1:50:19] Love to all beauty.

[1:50:23] Great day.

[1:50:23] Thank you.

[1:50:24] Please know that the five

[1:50:27] minute timer has concluded with

[1:50:27] five speakers left in

[1:50:28] the queue.

[1:50:29] No other speakers will be taken

[1:50:29] at this time.

[1:50:30] Next up is John Elliott.

[1:50:36] Please begin.

[1:50:36] Good afternoon.

[1:50:37] Thank you, Council members.

[1:50:41] Thank you Johnny Lowe for

[1:50:42] discussing lived experience.

[1:50:43] The lived experience that was

[1:50:47] mentioned is not what we would

[1:50:47] define as lived experience

[1:50:48] which is somebody who has

[1:50:51] experienced homelessness within

[1:50:52] the last 5 to 10 years and is

[1:50:52] intimately involved in

[1:50:56] the homeless space as an

[1:50:56] advocate.

[1:50:57] I don't think that anybody here

[1:51:02] should consider experiencing

[1:51:02] somebody who MAY have

[1:51:03] experienced homelessness ten,

[1:51:07] 15, 20 years ago not even in

[1:51:07] the region iPad or here because

[1:51:12] things are different now.

[1:51:13] I also want to talk about Neil

[1:51:13] Goode.

[1:51:17] So it was not clear to any of

[1:51:18] us that when you voted to cut

[1:51:19] the funding for Neil Good that

[1:51:23] there would not be an option to

[1:51:23] do fundraising and maintain

[1:51:24] the operations and that

[1:51:28] the permit was being pulled at

[1:51:28] the end of the year.

[1:51:29] If that is the case that is

[1:51:29] outrageous.

[1:51:33] That means we traded critically

[1:51:34] needed resources for our most

[1:51:39] suffering people to fund floc

[1:51:39] and that is completely

[1:51:40] unacceptable.

[1:51:44] It was never made clear in any

[1:51:45] of your deliberations that

[1:51:45] the funding you were committing

[1:51:50] or committing was tied to a

[1:51:50] permanent closure by revocation

[1:51:56] of permit and no one including

[1:51:57] everybody in the community

[1:51:58] community Body Alliance was

[1:51:58] aware of that either.

[1:52:00] We would have addressed it

[1:52:01] differently when it comes to

[1:52:06] that issue.

[1:52:07] We need to be revisiting why

[1:52:08] exactly we are terminating

[1:52:12] the permit when there is an

[1:52:12] option and people are

[1:52:13] interested to fundraise

[1:52:13] the necessary funds to keep

[1:52:18] the facility open as is.

[1:52:24] And then finally it has come to

[1:52:24] our attention that if you do

[1:52:29] not have a solution for your

[1:52:30] fee voucher by the end of

[1:52:30] the year that you are going to

[1:52:35] be dropped have no priority and

[1:52:36] and be on your own finding

[1:52:36] housing And that too is not

[1:52:37] acceptable especially when

[1:52:43] the county failed all theirs.

[1:52:44] >> That does conclude your

[1:52:44] time.

[1:52:45] Our next speaker is Natalie

[1:52:45] Maskey.

[1:52:50] Please begin.

[1:52:50] Hi.

[1:52:51] i just want to give you an

[1:52:52] update on the letter that I

[1:52:55] received.

[1:52:57] I was on a phone call and I got

[1:52:57] interrupted.

[1:53:02] It basically states for word

[1:53:02] for word that when the San

[1:53:03] Diego Housing Commission stops

[1:53:08] paying the rent subsidy you

[1:53:08] will no longer be an chc

[1:53:09] participant.

[1:53:09] You will not need to do

[1:53:13] anything and you will no longer

[1:53:14] be a part of this program.

[1:53:20] I was informed that I would be

[1:53:21] on a waiting list for a project

[1:53:21] based voucher so it's unclear

[1:53:25] to me if that would still be

[1:53:26] the case.

[1:53:26] I have tried contacting I am in

[1:53:32] contact with Legal Aid which it

[1:53:32] tells me to do.

[1:53:38] There's urgency it seems with

[1:53:38] any of these entities surging

[1:53:43] up It still has not seemed to

[1:53:44] get back to me.

[1:53:45] I have contacted every single

[1:53:50] entity that I can to put me in

[1:53:50] front of somebody that I can

[1:53:56] relate to How wrong this is.

[1:53:56] It's extremely overwhelming

[1:54:02] going to these websites When I

[1:54:03] spoke last week or the week

[1:54:03] before a willing and able

[1:54:08] bodied person that has

[1:54:09] the ability to do certain tasks

[1:54:09] that is having a really hard

[1:54:14] time completing tasks when

[1:54:14] the other parties are

[1:54:15] participating back or there

[1:54:20] doesn't seem to be an urgency

[1:54:21] in what's happening.

[1:54:21] I'll give you an estimation on

[1:54:25] what NOVEMBER 30th will look

[1:54:26] like if nobody else gets

[1:54:31] housing there will be over 1600

[1:54:31] people.

[1:54:32] A lot of them with children

[1:54:37] that will be unhoused on that

[1:54:37] day.

[1:54:42] That is overwhelming to me just

[1:54:43] to even think about and with

[1:54:44] the cuts, where are these

[1:54:45] people going to go?

[1:54:52] Thank you.

[1:54:53] Next up is Judy Strang.

[1:54:58] Please begin.

[1:54:58] >> Good afternoon.

[1:54:59] San Diego City Council.

[1:55:04] Thank you for the many comments

[1:55:05] we've heard so far.

[1:55:06] I wanted to share with you an

[1:55:07] article that came out from

[1:55:10] the Washington Post in

[1:55:11] association with the University

[1:55:11] of Colorado study regarding

[1:55:17] cannabis and brain surgery as

[1:55:23] Brain Awareness Month.

[1:55:24] I talked about that when we

[1:55:24] were talking about e-bikes

[1:55:25] because that's the injury you

[1:55:26] so often hear about.

[1:55:29] And traumatic brain injuries

[1:55:29] are horrific.

[1:55:30] Those of you who've had

[1:55:30] exposure to that with people

[1:55:31] can appreciate it.

[1:55:34] Anyway, the article from

[1:55:35] Washington Post is entitled

[1:55:35] Seven Unexpected Findings that

[1:55:40] Highlight Significant

[1:55:41] Vulnerabilities of Younger

[1:55:41] Individuals Related to

[1:55:42] Marijuana Use.

[1:55:46] I'm only going to share a

[1:55:47] couple that really struck me.

[1:55:48] First, I would like to share

[1:55:53] that because continues to

[1:55:53] surprise me that people don't

[1:55:54] realize that the cannabis

[1:55:58] people are using these days are

[1:55:58] not the plant with low

[1:55:59] concentrations.

[1:56:00] They are highly engineered and

[1:56:05] engineered to increase their

[1:56:05] potency.

[1:56:06] And this of course is what

[1:56:06] leads to addiction and

[1:56:10] dependance and adverse mental

[1:56:11] health episodes.

[1:56:12] Number two the structural

[1:56:16] change to the adolescent brain

[1:56:17] due to their exposure to

[1:56:17] marijuana use is significant.

[1:56:23] They call it in this article

[1:56:23] brain inflammation and it

[1:56:24] changes the structural wiring

[1:56:29] of the White matter in

[1:56:29] the brain.

[1:56:30] One can only think for about

[1:56:35] 10s and you know what that

[1:56:36] means for a population of

[1:56:36] children a whole demographic.

[1:56:37] And three the concern they have

[1:56:41] regarding working memory

[1:56:41] impairment and I've spoken to

[1:56:47] that concern as it applies to

[1:56:47] impaired driving.

[1:56:48] The fourth and the one that

[1:56:49] brings me here is the role of

[1:56:53] marijuana use in triggering

[1:56:53] the mental health problems of

[1:56:54] paranoia and panic.

[1:56:55] If you've ever dealt with

[1:56:59] someone having a bad experience

[1:56:59] with paranoia you know how

[1:57:00] painful it is.

[1:57:04] Thank you.

[1:57:05] Thank you, Becky Rapp.

[1:57:05] Please begin.

[1:57:11] Good afternoon.

[1:57:11] My name is Becky Robin.

[1:57:12] I'd like to thank the Public

[1:57:13] Safety Committee for bringing

[1:57:16] forward the transition Support

[1:57:17] Team pilot program helping to

[1:57:18] connect vulnerable individuals

[1:57:23] with behavioral health services

[1:57:23] ,housing resources and other

[1:57:24] supportive programs as it is

[1:57:24] crucial.

[1:57:30] However, I'm concerned that in

[1:57:30] the report marijuana and its

[1:57:31] potential behavioral health

[1:57:32] impacts were not included.

[1:57:35] If the goal of the transition

[1:57:36] support team is to improve

[1:57:37] behavioral health outcomes and

[1:57:41] prevent people from falling

[1:57:42] deeper into crisis then we must

[1:57:42] recognize the connection

[1:57:43] between high potency marijuana

[1:57:47] products and mental health

[1:57:48] consequences.

[1:57:48] The most recent publicly

[1:57:53] reported San Diego County

[1:57:54] toxicology report found that

[1:57:57] thc was present in 43% of

[1:57:58] completed suicides involving

[1:58:03] individuals age 25 and younger.

[1:58:04] Let that sink in for a minute.

[1:58:07] 43%.

[1:58:08] We have to start recognizing

[1:58:08] the role marijuana plays in

[1:58:13] mental health outcomes.

[1:58:14] I'm also encouraging

[1:58:15] the council to request updated

[1:58:19] information from the medical

[1:58:20] examiner, behavioral health

[1:58:20] services and other agencies

[1:58:21] regarding thc positive

[1:58:21] suicides.

[1:58:26] Marijuana related psychiatric

[1:58:26] admissions, emergency

[1:58:27] department visits and impaired

[1:58:32] driving incidents.

[1:58:33] As this pilot program

[1:58:38] progresses, council must ensure

[1:58:39] that marijuana prevention,

[1:58:39] education and behavioral health

[1:58:44] reporting are integrated into

[1:58:44] this program.

[1:58:45] If the mission of the trans

[1:58:46] transition support team is to

[1:58:50] help people avoid crisis and

[1:58:51] achieve stability then we

[1:58:51] should be willing to address

[1:58:52] all substances that MAY be

[1:58:56] contributing to those

[1:58:57] challenges.

[1:58:57] >> Thank you.

[1:58:57] Thank you.

[1:59:00] Our final speaker is Madison.

[1:59:07] Again.

[1:59:07] Hi.

[1:59:08] Thank you and good afternoon.

[1:59:08] My concern is about the growing

[1:59:13] normalization of marijuana use

[1:59:14] and what science tells us about

[1:59:14] its impact on young people.

[1:59:15] Lynn Silver is a San Diego

[1:59:19] based public health physician

[1:59:19] and advocate focused on

[1:59:20] protecting youth health through

[1:59:24] evidence based policy

[1:59:25] prevention and education.

[1:59:26] Her work centers on reducing

[1:59:30] the harms of substance use and

[1:59:31] supporting healthier

[1:59:31] communities and she shared

[1:59:36] the recent research that shows

[1:59:37] that when it comes to cannabis,

[1:59:38] three factors matter most how

[1:59:38] often it is used.

[1:59:43] How young someone is when they

[1:59:43] start and the potency of

[1:59:44] the thc.

[1:59:49] Unfortunately today's marijuana

[1:59:50] products are far more potent

[1:59:50] than those used in previous

[1:59:51] generations and young people

[1:59:55] are particularly vulnerable to

[1:59:55] the effects.

[1:59:56] Studies have found that heavy

[2:00:00] cannabis use is associated with

[2:00:01] changes in brain connectivity,

[2:00:01] reduced working memory and an

[2:00:06] increased risk of psychosis

[2:00:07] like symptoms perhaps most

[2:00:08] concerning adolescents who use

[2:00:08] cannabis within the previous

[2:00:13] year were found to have double

[2:00:13] the risk of developing a

[2:00:16] psychotic or bipolar disorder

[2:00:17] by age 26.

[2:00:18] We're also seeing other serious

[2:00:23] consequences like cases of

[2:00:24] cannabinoid hyperemesis

[2:00:24] syndrome, a condition that

[2:00:25] causes severe and repeated

[2:00:25] vomiting.

[2:00:30] Have quadrupled among young

[2:00:30] people in recent years.

[2:00:31] Researchers have concluded that

[2:00:35] cannabis does not support it as

[2:00:36] a treatment for many mental

[2:00:36] health conditions.

[2:00:37] Despite claims often made by

[2:00:42] the industry, the takeaway from

[2:00:42] all this research is clear

[2:00:43] there is no safe limit for

[2:00:47] youth cannabis use.

[2:00:47] The developing brain is

[2:00:48] uniquely susceptible to harm

[2:00:49] and early exposure carries

[2:00:53] measurable risks that can last

[2:00:54] well into adulthood.

[2:00:54] As policymakers you have

[2:00:55] the responsibility to put

[2:00:59] the health and well-being of

[2:00:59] young people first.

[2:01:00] I urge you to continue

[2:01:01] supporting policies that reduce

[2:01:06] youth exposure, limit

[2:01:07] normalization and prioritize

[2:01:07] prevention and education.

[2:01:08] >> Thank you.

[2:01:11] Thank you.

[2:01:12] >> This concludes knowledge and

[2:01:13] the public comment.

[2:01:13] All right.

[2:01:14] Thank you Deputy Clerk for

[2:01:14] that.

[2:01:18] I haven't gotten confirmation

[2:01:18] that the chambers will be

[2:01:19] suitable.

[2:01:19] I'm getting ahead Not that it

[2:01:23] probably won't be.

[2:01:24] So when you come back to

[2:01:24] the 12th floor, check if

[2:01:29] Chambers ready will go in there

[2:01:29] And if not we will resume

[2:01:30] the meeting here in

[2:01:31] the committee room.

[2:01:35] So we will now adjourn for

[2:01:35] the noon recess and reconvene

[2:01:36] in open session at 2 P.M. Or

[2:01:39] shortly thereafter.

[2:01:40] Thank you everyone for their

[2:29:15] All right.

[2:29:16] >> Good afternoon.

[2:29:16] We're going to get started.

[2:29:21] I will now reconvene the city

[2:29:21] council meeting of Tuesday,

[2:29:22] JUNE 23rd, 2026.

[2:29:23] Deputy Clerk Please call

[2:29:28] the Roll Council Member

[2:29:28] Campbell.

[2:29:29] Council Member Whitburn here

[2:29:29] Council Member Foster here

[2:29:33] Council Member Vaughn Wilbert.

[2:29:34] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee.

[2:29:40] Council Member Campo here.

[2:29:40] Council Member Moreno.

[2:29:41] Present Council Member Isla

[2:29:44] Rivera.

[2:29:45] And Council PRESIDENT LaCava.

[2:29:45] Present.

[2:29:46] Also attending the meeting are

[2:29:51] Assistant City Attorney Leslie

[2:29:52] Fitzgerald, Independent Budget

[2:29:52] Analyst Charles Monica.

[2:29:53] Council Affairs Advisor in

[2:29:56] the Mayor's office Gomez Iser

[2:29:57] and myself Definitely.

[2:29:58] Deputy City Clerk Kevin Smith.

[2:29:58] All right.

[2:30:03] Thank you for that Quorum is

[2:30:03] now present.

[2:30:04] While the technical issues in

[2:30:04] council chambers look like

[2:30:05] they're very, very close to

[2:30:10] being resolved, we decided to

[2:30:11] take this or I decided to take

[2:30:11] the safer course.

[2:30:12] >> We know this works.

[2:30:15] It went very well This morning.

[2:30:16] And again, thank you to

[2:30:17] the city clerk's work, I.T. And

[2:30:21] everybody my colleagues and

[2:30:22] the public.

[2:30:23] Flexibility to move us into

[2:30:27] the committee room and get on

[2:30:28] with this morning's business.

[2:30:34] With that we also have a change

[2:30:34] of order for this afternoon.

[2:30:38] We will start with item 333.

[2:30:38] We will hear the staff

[2:30:44] presentation and public comment

[2:30:45] for that item and we will trail

[2:30:46] item 333 after the public

[2:30:50] hearing is concluded.

[2:30:51] We will then hear item 330.

[2:30:52] After that is concluded we will

[2:30:57] come back for item 333 to hear

[2:30:57] the tabulation of any protests

[2:30:58] and proceed with council member

[2:31:02] comments.

[2:31:03] Questions and entertain a

[2:31:03] motion.

[2:31:08] With that Deputy Clerk please

[2:31:14] introduce item 333333 is

[2:31:14] collection of solid waste

[2:31:15] management fee on county tax

[2:31:15] rolls.

[2:31:16] Six votes are required pursuant

[2:31:19] to health and safety Code

[2:31:19] section 5473.

[2:31:19] >> All right.

[2:31:25] We will now open the notice to

[2:31:25] public hearing to consider

[2:31:26] whether to adopt the written

[2:31:27] report identifying the parcels

[2:31:30] receiving city provided solid

[2:31:31] waste management services and

[2:31:32] the solid waste management fees

[2:31:32] for each parcel for

[2:31:36] the upcoming tax year.

[2:31:37] If the report is adopted,

[2:31:38] the solid waste management fees

[2:31:38] listed in the report will be

[2:31:42] collected on the 2026 2027

[2:31:43] county tax roll in the same

[2:31:48] manner by the same persons at

[2:31:49] the same time as together with

[2:31:49] and not separate from

[2:31:54] the general taxes.

[2:31:55] If you are an affected property

[2:31:56] owners and have a written

[2:31:56] protest that you want to submit

[2:32:01] please bring it to the front

[2:32:02] where speaker slips are

[2:32:02] submitted And if you wish to

[2:32:03] register a protest as part of

[2:32:06] your comments please state your

[2:32:07] name and address for

[2:32:07] the record.

[2:32:08] Both oral and written protest

[2:32:12] will be accepted including

[2:32:12] protest received virtually.

[2:32:13] The public hearing will

[2:32:18] conclude at the end of all

[2:32:19] public testimony.

[2:32:19] And as stated earlier we will

[2:32:20] then trail this item and move

[2:32:24] on to item 330 to allow

[2:32:25] the clerk to tabulate

[2:32:25] the protests from affected

[2:32:30] property owners without staff.

[2:32:31] Please introduce yourselves for

[2:32:32] the record and let us know how

[2:32:33] much time you need for your

[2:32:36] presentation.

[2:32:37] Good afternoon Council members.

[2:32:38] My name is Jeremy Bauer and

[2:32:38] Assistant Director of

[2:32:39] Environmental Services

[2:32:43] Department and joined today

[2:32:43] with us with Deputy Director

[2:32:44] Sarah Sims.

[2:32:45] We request ten minutes please.

[2:32:51] When you're ready.

[2:32:52] So today's action we'll talk

[2:32:53] quickly about the background.

[2:32:53] Following the description of

[2:32:58] the proposed action, talk about

[2:32:59] today's meeting, the proposed

[2:32:59] hearing and how it was noticed.

[2:33:03] We'll discuss how the fees were

[2:33:04] calculated for those that are

[2:33:04] in the report that will be

[2:33:05] presented and considered by

[2:33:09] city council.

[2:33:10] Will remind the departments

[2:33:10] benefits of tax for billing

[2:33:14] that we had identified last

[2:33:15] year and continue to hold today

[2:33:21] And then timeline of next steps

[2:33:21] .

[2:33:22] So on the proposed action I

[2:33:22] just for the record I want to

[2:33:23] note that yesterday we did

[2:33:27] update the description of

[2:33:27] the proposed action in

[2:33:28] the staff report.

[2:33:28] It had referenced the fiscal

[2:33:32] year as fiscal year 27 dash

[2:33:33] 2006 2006 dash 2007 and just

[2:33:37] didn't conform with how

[2:33:38] the city typically refers to

[2:33:38] fiscal year.

[2:33:39] We corrected it to match what's

[2:33:43] on the screen fiscal year 2047.

[2:33:44] So the item today as council

[2:33:50] PRESIDENT Explained is for

[2:33:51] Council to consider a report of

[2:33:51] a list of the properties that

[2:33:52] receive solid waste management

[2:33:55] services from the city of San

[2:33:56] Diego and the amount of fee to

[2:33:57] be charged for the solid waste

[2:33:58] management fee for fiscal year

[2:34:04] 2027 as background.

[2:34:05] Last JUNE after the fee was

[2:34:06] adopted by City Council

[2:34:10] emergency Services Department

[2:34:11] returned to City Council to

[2:34:12] receive authorization to

[2:34:12] collect that fee on the county

[2:34:16] tax roll.

[2:34:17] The city then submitted a

[2:34:18] report to county of the list of

[2:34:22] properties and the amount of

[2:34:22] the fee.

[2:34:23] And then as the county collects

[2:34:23] the fee it remits revenue to

[2:34:28] the city each month as it

[2:34:28] revenues receive from

[2:34:29] the county from customers to

[2:34:34] the county typically comes into

[2:34:35] a bulk areas of revenue around

[2:34:35] NOVEMBER, DECEMBER and between

[2:34:36] FEBRUARY and APRIL

[2:34:41] corresponding when the majority

[2:34:41] of customers pay their property

[2:34:42] taxes.

[2:34:46] So today's action is to request

[2:34:47] Council to adopt the report for

[2:34:48] fiscal year 27 And as Council

[2:34:51] PRESIDENT Noted, this requires

[2:34:52] a two thirds majority to pass a

[2:34:52] public hearing.

[2:34:58] Notice was published on JUNE

[2:34:59] 8th and filed with the city

[2:34:59] clerk.

[2:35:00] The city Clerk website includes

[2:35:04] the report of the properties.

[2:35:04] We also turn on the daily

[2:35:05] transcript We advertised notice

[2:35:06] of today's meeting and

[2:35:11] availability of the report as

[2:35:12] well as how to protest and how

[2:35:12] to be present for this meeting

[2:35:16] and then the report if adopted

[2:35:16] by City Council today.

[2:35:17] Environmental Services

[2:35:17] Department by AUGUST 10th will

[2:35:21] submit that report to

[2:35:22] the county which will then

[2:35:22] allow us to collect the revenue

[2:35:28] in the coming year.

[2:35:28] This slide just shows a an

[2:35:29] image of notice that was

[2:35:33] published with the daily

[2:35:34] transcript including a

[2:35:34] description of today's hearing.

[2:35:35] The time and location

[2:35:38] the health and Safety code

[2:35:39] citation contact information

[2:35:40] and information on how the city

[2:35:44] considers protests.

[2:35:45] This slide shows the headings

[2:35:50] of the report.

[2:35:51] So the first column is

[2:35:52] the individual id for each

[2:35:56] property the assessor's parcel

[2:35:57] number.

[2:35:57] The second column is

[2:35:58] the baseline fee for each

[2:35:58] property.

[2:36:03] So corresponding to the service

[2:36:03] level that that property has.

[2:36:04] So for example if a property

[2:36:08] has the 35 gallon trash

[2:36:13] container package it would show

[2:36:14] $403.92 corresponding to

[2:36:14] the baseline rate for that

[2:36:15] service package.

[2:36:20] The next four columns show

[2:36:21] potential credits that that

[2:36:21] property might have earned in

[2:36:22] this current fiscal year.

[2:36:25] So for example, if a property

[2:36:26] ordered a 35 gallon package

[2:36:32] the smallest container this

[2:36:32] year in right now and they

[2:36:33] received that in JANUARY.

[2:36:37] The 35 gallon package is $10.78

[2:36:41] less than the 95 gallon.

[2:36:42] So the math would be six months

[2:36:42] times $10.78.

[2:36:47] So that would show-$64.68.

[2:36:53] So demonstrating a credit of

[2:36:53] $64.68 for the difference in

[2:36:54] the fee.

[2:36:54] Similarly, the next column

[2:36:59] shows financial assistance

[2:36:59] received.

[2:37:00] So if a property was eligible

[2:37:01] for financial assistance in

[2:37:04] this case it might show

[2:37:05] -$201.96 corresponding to that

[2:37:10] credit for assistance.

[2:37:11] The next item just says other

[2:37:11] adjustments That's a catch all.

[2:37:12] We don't have any other

[2:37:16] adjustments but we included

[2:37:17] that in case there were other

[2:37:17] adjustments to account for.

[2:37:18] And then the next column is

[2:37:19] total of all the credits.

[2:37:22] So in this case for example I

[2:37:27] just described it would be

[2:37:28] $64.68 plus 201 96.

[2:37:31] So a total credit of $266.64.

[2:37:32] The next several columns show

[2:37:37] debits or additional charges.

[2:37:38] So if for example a customer

[2:37:43] received a second trash

[2:37:43] container in JANUARY in this

[2:37:47] fiscal year a second trash

[2:37:48] container costs $17.78 per

[2:37:48] month.

[2:37:49] If they received that in

[2:37:53] JANUARY the math would be six

[2:37:53] times 1778.

[2:37:57] So this customer would show a

[2:37:58] debit of $106.68.

[2:37:58] Assume as well for example that

[2:38:04] this customer pledged to donate

[2:38:05] $100 toward the financial

[2:38:05] assistance program.

[2:38:06] In that case, the column for

[2:38:10] financial assistance donation

[2:38:10] would show $100.

[2:38:11] So in this example if you

[2:38:12] summarize to the total would

[2:38:16] show $206.68.

[2:38:17] The final column on the right

[2:38:17] is the net.

[2:38:22] So we would show whatever

[2:38:22] the baseline fee was for

[2:38:23] the customer minus any credits

[2:38:27] plus any additional charges or

[2:38:28] debits.

[2:38:29] And that would be the amount to

[2:38:34] be charged to the customer.

[2:38:34] Just want to note that although

[2:38:35] this MAY sound complicated,

[2:38:36] the portal was designed to

[2:38:40] track the delivery dates of

[2:38:40] containers and to export

[2:38:41] the report in an easy manner

[2:38:45] for stuff.

[2:38:46] This slide shows in text form

[2:38:51] what I just described on how

[2:38:52] the fees were calculated in

[2:38:53] the report.

[2:38:57] I'll also note that customers

[2:38:57] can view the fee breakdown on

[2:38:58] their portal account if they

[2:39:03] have a portal account at which

[2:39:04] portal that San diego.Gov.

[2:39:05] If they don't have a portal

[2:39:05] account they can call our call

[2:39:09] center.

[2:39:10] The number listed on the slide

[2:39:11] 858694 7000.

[2:39:15] And our call center staff have

[2:39:16] access to the background data

[2:39:17] and could describe the math

[2:39:17] that goes into the charts for

[2:39:20] each property.

[2:39:21] This slide just recaps

[2:39:27] the rationale why staff

[2:39:28] proposed checks were billing

[2:39:28] initially.

[2:39:29] We had estimated that standing

[2:39:33] up any billing department would

[2:39:34] cost a significant sum of money

[2:39:35] and the costs of that program

[2:39:35] would have been incorporated

[2:39:39] into the overall fee that went

[2:39:39] to customers.

[2:39:40] By taking another path that

[2:39:45] savings has been passed on to

[2:39:45] customers.

[2:39:46] Its actual billing is also

[2:39:51] convenient for customers.

[2:39:52] They're already paying

[2:39:52] the property tax bill anyway so

[2:39:53] this is one less bill to track.

[2:39:56] It's easier for the city We

[2:39:57] have no need to track tenants

[2:39:57] coming and going.

[2:39:58] The customer is the property

[2:39:58] owner.

[2:40:02] There is a strong payment

[2:40:03] compliance.

[2:40:07] As of last week 98.48% of

[2:40:08] customers have paid their

[2:40:08] property tax bill.

[2:40:09] We have a couple more weeks

[2:40:14] left in the fiscal year.

[2:40:14] Typically the city budget its

[2:40:18] budgets with an assumption of

[2:40:19] 98.89 8.9.

[2:40:20] So we'll be able to see in

[2:40:20] the coming weeks whether this

[2:40:21] year is on track with prior

[2:40:24] years or if there's any

[2:40:25] difference and the cost to

[2:40:26] the city for the county to send

[2:40:31] other bills, collect

[2:40:31] the revenue and do any follow

[2:40:35] up customers cost us around

[2:40:36] $22,500 per year for the county

[2:40:41] to take care of all of them.

[2:40:41] And this last slide just shows

[2:40:42] a summary of the timeline.

[2:40:48] So on JUNE 8th as I noted, we

[2:40:48] noticed the action today,

[2:40:49] the report today being

[2:40:53] available.

[2:40:54] The hearing is taking place as

[2:40:54] we speak.

[2:40:55] And then by AUGUST 10th if

[2:40:59] council adopts the fee we will

[2:40:59] provide the report to

[2:41:00] the county which will then

[2:41:01] allow us to collect this

[2:41:01] revenue in the coming fiscal

[2:41:02] year.

[2:41:05] And then in the fall customers

[2:41:06] can expect to see the fee on

[2:41:10] their property tax bills.

[2:41:11] And that's all I have.

[2:41:16] Thank you.

[2:41:16] All right.

[2:41:17] Thank you for the presentation.

[2:41:18] So with that we will go to

[2:41:22] public comment.

[2:41:23] And as a friendly reminder to

[2:41:24] issue a protest you must

[2:41:28] actually be a customer of

[2:41:28] the City of San Diego trash

[2:41:29] collection system.

[2:41:34] So please proceed with public

[2:41:34] comment.

[2:41:35] >> Thank you.

[2:41:36] Council PRESIDENT The public

[2:41:40] comment period for this item is

[2:41:40] now open.

[2:41:41] I would like to remind everyone

[2:41:42] that if you are an affected

[2:41:42] property owner and wish to

[2:41:46] submit a protest against

[2:41:46] adoption of the written report

[2:41:47] identifying solid waste

[2:41:48] management fees to be collected

[2:41:51] on the 2026 2027 tax rule You

[2:41:52] must do so prior to the close

[2:41:53] of the public hearing or

[2:41:57] protests started during

[2:41:57] the public comment period.

[2:41:58] Protests that are received by

[2:41:59] the court before the hearing is

[2:42:03] closed will be counted.

[2:42:04] If you're in chambers please

[2:42:04] submit your speaker slip on top

[2:42:08] of the box at the front of

[2:42:09] the room.

[2:42:10] If you're watching on city tv

[2:42:15] or the live stream online and

[2:42:16] would like to call into

[2:42:20] the meeting to speak please

[2:42:20] call 16692545252.

[2:42:24] When prompted input webinar id

[2:42:25] 1609430466 If you are joining

[2:42:26] us virtually please raise your

[2:42:31] hand to speak by tapping

[2:42:31] the raise your hand icon or if

[2:42:33] you are calling participant

[2:42:33] Star nine.

[2:42:40] We will we will begin with

[2:42:41] in-person comment.

[2:42:44] Max Schmitt to please come

[2:42:44] forward you'll have ten minutes

[2:43:01] to speak.

[2:43:02] Hi.

[2:43:07] I wanted to be a voice for all

[2:43:08] property owners in San Diego

[2:43:09] who could not come to this

[2:43:14] meeting to say that

[2:43:14] the property taxes are too high

[2:43:20] and that for there to be this

[2:43:20] additional fee on the property

[2:43:25] taxes.

[2:43:26] I think a lot of property

[2:43:31] owners obviously don't want

[2:43:32] this fee.

[2:43:37] I know many people I know that

[2:43:37] might be the minority of people

[2:43:43] because I do believe in fair

[2:43:43] elections and I believe that

[2:43:44] there's many liberals in San

[2:43:45] Diego who believe that city

[2:43:49] council knows how to spend

[2:43:50] their money better than they

[2:43:50] do.

[2:43:56] So maybe they support the fee.

[2:43:57] However, I do know that there

[2:43:58] is a voice of resistance in San

[2:44:02] Diego who thinks the property

[2:44:03] taxes are too high.

[2:44:04] I for 1 A.M. Homeless so I

[2:44:08] don't have the property so it

[2:44:08] doesn't really count for me.

[2:44:09] And I also want to be a voice

[2:44:14] for Catholics where I think

[2:44:15] many Catholics would be against

[2:44:20] an added property tax for to go

[2:44:21] to the city of San Diego

[2:44:21] because of the Catholic

[2:44:26] genocide going on.

[2:44:27] I think that until the city of

[2:44:27] San Diego addresses

[2:44:32] the underground hidden Catholic

[2:44:32] genocide I believe many

[2:44:33] Catholic property owners in San

[2:44:38] Diego would be against an extra

[2:44:43] an increase in property tax.

[2:44:44] And the reason I think that is

[2:44:45] because the genocides real on

[2:44:49] Catholics are being killed.

[2:44:50] They're being surrounded by

[2:44:55] people speaking gibberish until

[2:44:56] the point they're driven

[2:44:56] completely insane and it's

[2:45:01] become a serious problem And

[2:45:01] needs to be addressed.

[2:45:02] >> Thank you for your comments.

[2:45:12] Allegedly under I guess I

[2:45:12] wonder how many times we're

[2:45:17] going to go down this path.

[2:45:18] I mean what was Proposition 218

[2:45:22] put in place for And we just

[2:45:23] had a lawsuit for $1 million to

[2:45:24] get you guys to change what is

[2:45:28] happening.

[2:45:29] And here we are again saying

[2:45:29] that you want people property

[2:45:33] owners to come and protest.

[2:45:37] Are you going to honor Prop 218

[2:45:38] or are we going to go down

[2:45:39] the path again to potentially

[2:45:44] engage in litigation and cause

[2:45:44] the city really the people a

[2:45:45] million more dollars or

[2:45:49] potentially more than that

[2:45:49] because you are not engaging in

[2:45:54] this work properly the way that

[2:45:55] you talk about you know, you

[2:46:00] know, strong payment compliance

[2:46:00] .

[2:46:01] Well, I mean when you're set to

[2:46:02] lose your house if you do not

[2:46:06] pay this bill I mean of course

[2:46:06] you're going to force

[2:46:07] compliance.

[2:46:07] But when you talk about making

[2:46:11] it easier and cheaper and

[2:46:12] convenient to put it on a tax

[2:46:16] roll that is very negligent

[2:46:17] because that's not true, you're

[2:46:18] actually setting people up to

[2:46:21] lose their property And when

[2:46:22] nobody knows about you guys

[2:46:26] it's like this room is filled

[2:46:27] with your staff and a couple of

[2:46:31] people who you know, care about

[2:46:32] what's going on in

[2:46:32] the community around us.

[2:46:33] But when you have people who

[2:46:37] are working right now trying to

[2:46:37] make ends meet and you're

[2:46:38] expecting them to come and

[2:46:46] protest a new tax bill, just

[2:46:46] kind of wondering like why we

[2:46:47] continue to do these things

[2:46:51] that that is insanity when you

[2:46:51] continue to try and stick a

[2:46:52] square peg into a round hole

[2:46:57] and expect people to I mean,

[2:46:57] yeah, most people don't pay

[2:46:58] attention but you will have

[2:47:02] people that will come against

[2:47:02] you in litigation and it's not

[2:47:03] fair to the people to make us

[2:47:07] do that in order for you guys

[2:47:08] to follow the law you expect us

[2:47:08] to.

[2:47:09] And so I think that you should

[2:47:12] be held to the same standard.

[2:47:13] Thank you.

[2:47:13] That does conclude in-person

[2:47:18] public comment.

[2:47:19] I've started the five person

[2:47:22] excuse me I've started the five

[2:47:23] minute timer in the committee

[2:47:24] room and will now turn to

[2:47:27] the virtual queue which there

[2:47:28] are currently two participants

[2:47:32] requesting to speak.

[2:47:35] Hector please begin your

[2:47:40] comments.

[2:47:41] All right.

[2:47:41] Thanks for building trust in

[2:47:42] the community.

[2:47:46] This is not like the one two

[2:47:46] kick or this thing was not

[2:47:47] really documented Trust for

[2:47:50] the community but the way you

[2:47:51] collect the fees I disagree

[2:47:52] with this.

[2:47:55] I don't have a house.

[2:47:56] I got a condo.

[2:47:57] So we had trash pickup private

[2:48:02] and then the let it is where

[2:48:05] there's no one even there to

[2:48:05] protest.

[2:48:06] Yes, they probably don't even

[2:48:09] know about it If you send them

[2:48:10] a message I think you should

[2:48:14] just trust trust the people to

[2:48:15] send their money and every

[2:48:15] month just trust the public to

[2:48:19] send you a check every month

[2:48:20] instead of taking out of your

[2:48:20] property tax which is just

[2:48:25] that's like that's not right

[2:48:28] you know to do that And any way

[2:48:29] who gets the spread so your

[2:48:30] check clears your property tax

[2:48:34] like a week ago and then

[2:48:34] the property taxes do like in

[2:48:38] the next week and then who gets

[2:48:39] the spread from the actual

[2:48:43] money being in the bank So

[2:48:44] the money comes to the city It

[2:48:44] probably doesn't go directly to

[2:48:48] the city for a while.

[2:48:48] So does the city get

[2:48:49] the spread?

[2:48:52] That's the whole banking system

[2:48:53] is in the spread.

[2:48:53] Whoever makes that holding

[2:48:56] the money for seven days is

[2:48:57] worth something.

[2:48:58] That's a lot of money that's

[2:49:02] going to somewhere.

[2:49:02] I was just wondering who get do

[2:49:03] you guys know who gets

[2:49:07] the spread?

[2:49:08] Does the county get it while

[2:49:09] they're sitting on all the cash

[2:49:11] before they give it to you Or

[2:49:12] do you when they pay your taxes

[2:49:16] you don't get the money that

[2:49:16] same day.

[2:49:17] So I just wondered who's

[2:49:20] shading, who's getting

[2:49:21] the spread And you might want

[2:49:26] to tell us if you know that

[2:49:27] who's getting the spread.

[2:49:30] That's one of my questions And

[2:49:30] then good luck with the trash

[2:49:35] thing to That's my thing.

[2:49:39] Thank you for your comments.

[2:49:39] Our next speaker is a caller

[2:49:40] with the last four digits 8700

[2:49:46] Please begin.

[2:49:50] Thank you.

[2:49:51] So we have two minutes right?

[2:49:52] Deputy City Clerk That's

[2:49:55] correct.

[2:49:56] Thank you so much, Joy.

[2:49:59] Senator first of all yes to

[2:50:04] trash collection system I think

[2:50:04] I heard this correctly

[2:50:08] The county is going to keep

[2:50:13] $22,000 per year out of those

[2:50:14] fees in order to process them.

[2:50:18] Tax rules that surprise me.

[2:50:19] I wish it were zero.

[2:50:23] So thank you for

[2:50:24] the presentation dsd and thank

[2:50:25] you to esd for all your work on

[2:50:28] this matter especially thank

[2:50:29] you to Kirby Brady,

[2:50:33] the director.

[2:50:34] Now for me this process really

[2:50:34] was the lessons I've learned.

[2:50:38] I learned a lot.

[2:50:38] You know I was a board right

[2:50:42] from the beginning and I know

[2:50:43] how many years ago that was And

[2:50:44] I just have learned a lot And

[2:50:48] after that give and take on

[2:50:48] both sides that we came to this

[2:50:49] place.

[2:50:52] I support the adjusted lower

[2:50:57] fee schedule Now I want to say

[2:50:58] this Dear homeowners, I've

[2:50:58] never been a homeowner.

[2:50:59] I wish that would have happened

[2:51:02] to me.

[2:51:03] It wasn't in the cards.

[2:51:06] But anyway, dear homeowners,

[2:51:07] please don't protest this.

[2:51:12] I'm trying to get inside your

[2:51:12] pocketbook, inside the quality

[2:51:13] of your life And you know I

[2:51:16] can't in reality but I just ask

[2:51:17] that we need your help.

[2:51:22] We need you just to jump on

[2:51:23] board and to help us through

[2:51:25] this big crisis of deficits and

[2:51:26] so forth.

[2:51:26] Everybody makes mistakes.

[2:51:29] We're all doing our best So

[2:51:30] dear homeowners on all sides

[2:51:35] please do not protest.

[2:51:39] Please participate in our

[2:51:40] government and make it work for

[2:51:41] all of us together at the same

[2:51:44] family table.

[2:51:45] So thank you for listening And

[2:51:49] to all thank you.

[2:51:50] Our next speaker is Toni.

[2:52:03] Please begin your comments.

[2:52:08] Toni we can't quite hear you.

[2:52:09] Can you speak up or turn up

[2:52:12] the volume please?

[2:52:22] Toni, we cannot hear you.

[2:52:31] We will have to move on.

[2:52:32] Council PRESIDENT That

[2:52:33] concludes public comment on

[2:52:33] this item.

[2:52:36] All right.

[2:52:37] >> Thank you Deputy Kirk With

[2:52:41] that the public hearing is now

[2:52:41] closed.

[2:52:42] And as previously noted we will

[2:52:45] trail this item while protests

[2:52:46] are being tabulated and move on

[2:52:47] to item 330.

[2:52:51] The protest will be read into

[2:52:51] the record after item 330

[2:52:55] concludes and we will take

[2:52:56] councilmember comments

[2:52:56] questions and entertain a

[2:52:57] motion at that time.

[2:53:00] So with that Deputy Clerk

[2:53:04] please introduce item 330 Item

[2:53:04] 330 is city provided

[2:53:05] residential Solid waste

[2:53:07] management services

[2:53:18] Implementation Update.

[2:53:23] All right, Please introduce

[2:53:24] yourselves again for the record

[2:53:25] and let us know how much time

[2:53:25] you need for this item.

[2:53:27] >> Thank you.

[2:53:27] Council PRESIDENT.

[2:53:28] Good afternoon, Council

[2:53:28] members.

[2:53:29] My name is Jeremy Bauer,

[2:53:30] Assistant Director,

[2:53:32] Environmental Services

[2:53:33] Department.

[2:53:33] I'm joined with Sarah Sims, our

[2:53:34] Deputy director.

[2:53:36] MAY please have up to 15

[2:53:37] minutes for this item.

[2:53:37] >> All right.

[2:53:37] When you're ready.

[2:53:38] Great.

[2:53:41] So today's item is to provide

[2:53:41] an update on the implementation

[2:53:42] activities.

[2:53:42] Environmental Services

[2:53:46] Department has been up to since

[2:53:47] last JUNE when the solid waste

[2:53:50] management fee was adopted.

[2:53:51] We'll provide a quick update on

[2:53:52] the background.

[2:53:55] We'll discuss the container,

[2:53:56] roll out the customer portal.

[2:54:00] We'll talk about the financial

[2:54:00] assistance program.

[2:54:01] The outreach and engagement

[2:54:05] activities we've undertaken

[2:54:05] upcoming program developments.

[2:54:12] The fund outlook And next Steps

[2:54:13] .

[2:54:14] So as a background under

[2:54:17] the city ordinance city forces

[2:54:18] are obligated to provide trash

[2:54:19] and recycling services to

[2:54:23] eligible customers in the city

[2:54:24] of San Diego.

[2:54:24] The city ordinance specifies

[2:54:25] that this work be done by

[2:54:28] employees of the city of San

[2:54:28] Diego.

[2:54:29] And it clarifies who's eligible

[2:54:32] namely residential properties

[2:54:33] with one of up to four

[2:54:37] properties on a single lot that

[2:54:37] meet city requirements for city

[2:54:38] service.

[2:54:38] Measure b.

[2:54:42] When it was adopted by voters

[2:54:43] in 2022, it removed a long

[2:54:43] standing prohibition that had

[2:54:46] been in place that prevented

[2:54:47] the city from recovering

[2:54:48] the cost To provide this

[2:54:51] service.

[2:54:52] Following a year of outreach

[2:54:56] and engagement and a cost of

[2:54:57] service study, we presented

[2:54:57] four City Council

[2:55:01] considerations last JUNE a fee

[2:55:02] to recover those costs.

[2:55:02] City Council adopted that fee

[2:55:06] on JUNE nine, 2025 and then a

[2:55:07] couple of weeks after that

[2:55:10] authorized the city to collect

[2:55:11] the fee on the county textual.

[2:55:15] Before the adoption of that fee

[2:55:16] the services were primarily

[2:55:17] covered by the general fund.

[2:55:20] Now they're largely covered by

[2:55:20] the fee as well.

[2:55:21] I'll note in this presentation

[2:55:24] that on JUNE 8th the City

[2:55:25] Council authorized a settlement

[2:55:29] agreement which reduces

[2:55:30] the previously adopted fee for

[2:55:33] fiscal year 28 and 29.

[2:55:34] The action did not change

[2:55:35] the fee for the current year

[2:55:36] nor did it change the fee for

[2:55:41] next year.

[2:55:41] So on the container rollout

[2:55:46] I'll take the opportunity to

[2:55:46] remind the rationale for

[2:55:47] replacing the containers.

[2:55:51] The new fee is based on

[2:55:52] the size of the trash container

[2:55:52] and the total number of

[2:55:56] containers on the property.

[2:55:57] The new containers recognizing

[2:56:00] that the city did not have

[2:56:01] great data on the number of

[2:56:01] containers at each property.

[2:56:05] We didn't have sufficient

[2:56:06] accuracy or precision to be

[2:56:06] able to know how many

[2:56:10] containers were out there and

[2:56:11] to be able to ensure customer

[2:56:11] verification that we were only

[2:56:15] providing service to eligible

[2:56:16] customers and that we were

[2:56:19] providing service at the level

[2:56:20] selected by the customer.

[2:56:24] Also recognizing that so many

[2:56:25] of the containers out there

[2:56:26] were well beyond their useful

[2:56:26] life, we did make

[2:56:30] the determination that the most

[2:56:30] effective way to validate our

[2:56:31] customers and their service

[2:56:35] level was to do provide new

[2:56:35] containers, new trash and

[2:56:39] recycling containers.

[2:56:40] Importantly we involved in this

[2:56:40] process collecting

[2:56:44] the containers to recycle them

[2:56:45] to ensure that that material is

[2:56:48] available to make new plastic

[2:56:49] products including buckets,

[2:56:50] pallets or even new trash

[2:56:53] containers.

[2:56:54] I will also note that the we

[2:56:55] are not doing a comprehensive

[2:56:58] replacement of the green

[2:56:59] organics containers as those

[2:56:59] are quite new But those

[2:57:02] customers that are changing

[2:57:03] their organics service level or

[2:57:04] have the legacy yard waste

[2:57:06] containers they will receive a

[2:57:11] new green container.

[2:57:12] This slide shows a visual

[2:57:16] representation representation

[2:57:16] of the progress of the roll

[2:57:17] out.

[2:57:17] You'll see the bar graphs on

[2:57:20] the left.

[2:57:21] The progress on the gray

[2:57:22] container rollout.

[2:57:25] We started in OCTOBER and

[2:57:26] essentially completed that

[2:57:26] process in MAY.

[2:57:31] As of there's a less than half

[2:57:32] a percent or so of data

[2:57:35] verification for some of

[2:57:36] the gray containers But

[2:57:38] essentially it's complete at

[2:57:42] 259,000 containers to nearly

[2:57:43] 2020 5000 customers at this

[2:57:43] point.

[2:57:44] And as I mentioned, we're

[2:57:44] verifying data for

[2:57:48] the remaining of the blue

[2:57:48] containers.

[2:57:49] We're at nearly 60% roll out.

[2:57:52] Do you see the teal shows,

[2:57:53] the actual and the blue shows

[2:57:56] the anticipated progress and

[2:57:57] scheduled to be complete by

[2:57:58] the end of SEPTEMBER?

[2:58:02] The customer portal we launched

[2:58:07] in in JULY of last year.

[2:58:07] It's a way for customers to

[2:58:08] engage in self-service to

[2:58:11] select their containers, to

[2:58:12] track their service levels,

[2:58:15] track their billing history and

[2:58:16] also to sign up for text

[2:58:20] message alerts or email alerts

[2:58:21] .

[2:58:21] Over 123,000 customers have

[2:58:24] created portal accounts about

[2:58:25] 55%.

[2:58:26] We designed it to be optional.

[2:58:26] We know some customers prefer

[2:58:29] to speak on the phone and that

[2:58:30] remains an option.

[2:58:31] It also allows customers to

[2:58:35] pledge donations.

[2:58:39] And as of this week around

[2:58:40] $63,000 has been raised by

[2:58:43] customers who not only are

[2:58:44] paying the fee for the first

[2:58:44] time but pledged to donate

[2:58:45] money to the financial

[2:58:46] assistance program to help

[2:58:48] their neighbors.

[2:58:48] I'll also note that customers

[2:58:49] can create a portal account at

[2:58:53] any time.

[2:58:54] They have benefits to doing so.

[2:58:58] The website San Diego dot gov

[2:58:59] slash trash has a 1 to 3 step

[2:59:00] process for how they can create

[2:59:03] an account and by doing so

[2:59:04] again they have the benefits of

[2:59:08] the ability to self-service for

[2:59:08] container replacement repairs,

[2:59:10] checking service or to view

[2:59:15] their history.

[2:59:16] So the financial assistance

[2:59:19] program I really want to

[2:59:20] describe this as a success

[2:59:20] story.

[2:59:21] We were throughout the outreach

[2:59:22] and engagement we heard

[2:59:25] concerns from residents about

[2:59:25] paying a fee for the very first

[2:59:26] time and we have reassured them

[2:59:29] that we are working on

[2:59:30] developing a financial

[2:59:31] assistance program to help

[2:59:34] those who would be most in

[2:59:34] need.

[2:59:35] So it was very meaningful for

[2:59:36] us that city council included

[2:59:39] in the budget for esd funding

[2:59:39] to launch this program in

[2:59:43] JANUARY We partnered with

[2:59:44] the Metropolitan Area Advisory

[2:59:45] Committee on Anti-Poverty of

[2:59:48] San Diego County, also known as

[2:59:49] Mack, a local nonprofit And I'm

[2:59:50] pleased to share that a couple

[2:59:52] of representatives from Mack

[2:59:53] are here with us today in

[2:59:53] the chamber.

[2:59:57] >> The program was designed

[2:59:58] based on either household

[2:59:58] income if household if

[3:00:02] customers meet income

[3:00:06] requirements or as a proxy if a

[3:00:07] member of the household is

[3:00:07] enrolled in an existing

[3:00:11] assistance program including

[3:00:12] Medi-Cal Health, Fresh CalWORKs

[3:00:13] or the Low Income Home Energy

[3:00:13] Assistance Program.

[3:00:16] If they apply they could be

[3:00:17] deemed they could qualify for

[3:00:18] the assistance program.

[3:00:21] The assistance amount was set

[3:00:21] at 50% off of the solid waste

[3:00:25] management fee or recognizing

[3:00:26] the concerns around charging on

[3:00:27] the tax roll.

[3:00:30] We added an additional

[3:00:31] criterion If a household was

[3:00:35] enrolled in a payment plan for

[3:00:36] past due property taxes which

[3:00:36] is an indicator of past

[3:00:40] inability to pay their property

[3:00:41] taxes, they would qualify for a

[3:00:41] 400% subsidy.

[3:00:46] And as of this week two two

[3:00:46] customers have met both

[3:00:47] criteria And so we have made

[3:00:50] use of both both the 50% off

[3:00:53] assistance as well as the 100%

[3:00:53] subsidy.

[3:00:58] I'll note for fiscal year 26

[3:00:58] assistance we had set a

[3:00:59] deadline of APRIL 30th and Mac

[3:01:02] is currently going through

[3:01:02] the fourth thousand

[3:01:03] applications that were

[3:01:03] received.

[3:01:04] We're still accepting

[3:01:07] applications now through next

[3:01:08] APRIL 30th for assistance

[3:01:11] towards the fiscal year 27 fee.

[3:01:16] And I'll note that as of as of

[3:01:16] now of the approximately 4000

[3:01:19] applications received, around

[3:01:20] 2400 have been fully approved

[3:01:20] and Mac is busy working through

[3:01:24] the remainder.

[3:01:24] Some things to look forward to

[3:01:25] for next year with with

[3:01:28] the program.

[3:01:29] As I noted in addition to this

[3:01:30] this program remains in our

[3:01:30] budget.

[3:01:33] In addition to the budgeted

[3:01:34] amount from the general fund

[3:01:37] we're also counting on

[3:01:38] the $64,000 in donations from

[3:01:38] customers.

[3:01:39] We've also based on feedback

[3:01:43] from the community we've added

[3:01:43] an additional proxy criterion

[3:01:44] if a household member is

[3:01:48] enrolled in the Jenny Care

[3:01:48] program they would also qualify

[3:01:49] for our program.

[3:01:52] That will also be updating

[3:01:53] the income requirements to

[3:01:53] $2,027.

[3:01:54] We've also streamlined

[3:01:57] enrollment re enrollment based

[3:01:58] on feedback.

[3:01:58] If a customer is eligible one

[3:02:02] year they would qualify for a

[3:02:03] second year assuming it's a

[3:02:03] still the same property owner.

[3:02:07] Similarly if they apply for

[3:02:08] the first time in 2027 they

[3:02:09] would have a streamline and a

[3:02:11] qualification for the year

[3:02:12] after that.

[3:02:12] For applications that are

[3:02:17] approved to the for AUGUST 10th

[3:02:17] they will see their reduction

[3:02:21] applied proactively to the bill

[3:02:22] that they see on their property

[3:02:25] tax bill after AUGUST 10th

[3:02:25] assuming funding remains.

[3:02:26] We will continue to accept

[3:02:29] applications on a rolling basis

[3:02:30] and at that point the payments

[3:02:35] will be provided as a rebate.

[3:02:36] We'll continue to hold clinics,

[3:02:36] in-person clinics to assist

[3:02:39] customers on how to enroll, how

[3:02:40] to apply for the program And

[3:02:43] the program will continue to be

[3:02:44] first come first serve.

[3:02:44] I'll note that the funding for

[3:02:48] the program had capacity for

[3:02:48] 7000 customers.

[3:02:49] We had 4000 applications this

[3:02:52] year so we did have capacity to

[3:02:53] fully cover the number of

[3:02:53] applications.

[3:02:58] We continue to spread the word

[3:02:59] about the program and we

[3:02:59] believe with through word of

[3:03:03] mouth and social media and

[3:03:03] targeted outreach more people

[3:03:04] will become aware.

[3:03:05] We continue to believe that

[3:03:07] the existing capacity is enough

[3:03:08] to meet the need of people who

[3:03:09] will apply.

[3:03:12] With that said, we are

[3:03:13] receiving weekly updates for

[3:03:14] Mac and as we get the data if

[3:03:17] we need to revisit or pivot we

[3:03:22] will be able to do so.

[3:03:22] Outreach and engagement.

[3:03:27] Mac I mentioned has done at

[3:03:31] this point 1515 in-person

[3:03:31] clinics the last fiscal year or

[3:03:35] sorry before APRIL 30th and

[3:03:35] seven more since APRIL 30th.

[3:03:36] For our part it's been

[3:03:37] important to us to continue to

[3:03:40] be available and present in

[3:03:41] the community to give updates

[3:03:41] similar to what you're hearing

[3:03:44] in this presentation.

[3:03:45] Talk about financial assistance

[3:03:46] and answer questions face to

[3:03:46] face.

[3:03:49] I've seen many of your staff.

[3:03:50] I've seen some of you in person

[3:03:51] yourselves as well at these

[3:03:54] meetings and we continue to be

[3:03:55] available to do so.

[3:03:56] As of now we've done about 25

[3:04:01] of these meetings with

[3:04:02] community planning group

[3:04:02] meetings, town councils and

[3:04:03] others.

[3:04:03] We talk about the container

[3:04:04] rollout potential systems and

[3:04:09] we answer the questions.

[3:04:10] So what's coming up with

[3:04:14] the adoption of the reduced

[3:04:15] fees for fiscal year 28 and 29?

[3:04:16] As we get out in the community

[3:04:20] we'll continue to amplify that

[3:04:20] decision and what it means for

[3:04:21] the timing of the reduced fees

[3:04:25] and what it means with regard

[3:04:25] to weekly just like

[3:04:26] the previous plans for weekly

[3:04:27] recycling and previous plans

[3:04:30] for the bulky item program.

[3:04:30] We'll also continue to

[3:04:34] emphasize that the plan was

[3:04:35] always when we developed

[3:04:36] deliver the new containers to

[3:04:39] ultimately phase out collection

[3:04:40] from the old black containers

[3:04:41] and the old dark blue

[3:04:41] containers.

[3:04:42] So we'll continue to

[3:04:43] communicate on that as well as

[3:04:49] customers who need additional

[3:04:49] containers engaging with them

[3:04:50] so they know how to do so

[3:04:53] whether it's ordering more or

[3:04:54] for those who have determined

[3:04:55] they don't need as much

[3:04:58] capacity how to downsize which

[3:04:59] could result in reduced fee for

[3:05:03] them going forward as well as

[3:05:04] emphasizing the availability of

[3:05:04] the financial assistance

[3:05:05] program.

[3:05:08] Our code compliance officers

[3:05:09] when they observe overflowing

[3:05:09] containers they will be

[3:05:12] engaging with customers leaving

[3:05:13] behind literature so customers

[3:05:16] know how to order a second

[3:05:17] container as well as if they

[3:05:17] continue to see the lingering

[3:05:21] black containers to remove

[3:05:21] those and engage with

[3:05:22] the customers.

[3:05:25] So if they need to order

[3:05:26] another one another gray one

[3:05:27] they know how to do so.

[3:05:30] We mentioned last JUNE that all

[3:05:31] of the new containers become

[3:05:31] equipped with rfid readers.

[3:05:35] We are working on the next

[3:05:36] stages of a pilot to test

[3:05:37] the technology of the hardware

[3:05:40] that will be attached to

[3:05:41] the trucks and that hardware

[3:05:42] when when installed would allow

[3:05:45] us to collect operational data

[3:05:46] to improve services over time

[3:05:50] as well as identify containers

[3:05:50] that are not where they are

[3:05:51] supposed to be.

[3:05:51] That's not the purpose of

[3:05:55] today's item but we will you

[3:05:56] can look forward to an item in

[3:05:56] the coming weeks or so on on

[3:06:00] that item.

[3:06:00] The fee schedule I won't go

[3:06:04] into too much detail.

[3:06:05] We've presented this a couple

[3:06:06] of weeks ago but I'll just

[3:06:09] highlight for those present.

[3:06:10] The second column are the fees

[3:06:14] that go into effect JULY 1st,

[3:06:14] 2026 of this year.

[3:06:15] You can see they are about a

[3:06:18] dollar more for the three main

[3:06:22] bundles but then I'll emphasize

[3:06:22] the latter two columns Those

[3:06:23] are the newly adopted reduced

[3:06:26] fees for fiscal year 28 in

[3:06:27] fiscal year 29.

[3:06:28] And one thing in particular I

[3:06:31] want to emphasize is

[3:06:32] the because the reduced fees

[3:06:32] are heavily subsidized by

[3:06:35] the recycling fund.

[3:06:36] The fee for an additional

[3:06:37] recycling bin for fiscal year

[3:06:40] 28 goes down to $6.01 per month

[3:06:44] for that fiscal year and then

[3:06:44] $6.56 per month for

[3:06:45] the following fiscal year.

[3:06:48] And this is important to note

[3:06:49] as some customers MAY have

[3:06:49] ordered fewer recycling

[3:06:53] containers anticipating weekly

[3:06:53] recycling.

[3:06:54] So I wanted to be sure to

[3:06:56] amplify the subsidized rate for

[3:07:01] a second recycling container.

[3:07:02] This next slide as well we

[3:07:07] presented a couple of weeks ago

[3:07:07] at the adoption of the reduced

[3:07:08] fees.

[3:07:08] I'll just note a couple of

[3:07:11] things.

[3:07:11] One, the second row shows

[3:07:15] the rate revenue.

[3:07:16] So looking at the third column

[3:07:17] you see the rate revenue goes

[3:07:20] down significantly when

[3:07:21] the fees are reduced.

[3:07:21] The next two rows show

[3:07:22] the subsidies.

[3:07:26] So you see the estimated

[3:07:26] subsidies from the recycling

[3:07:27] fund.

[3:07:30] And then the next row

[3:07:31] the subsidies from the general

[3:07:31] fund.

[3:07:32] I'll note these are these are

[3:07:32] estimates They will ultimately

[3:07:35] be subject to the budgeting

[3:07:36] process and actual expenditures

[3:07:37] and revenues leading up to

[3:07:40] those years.

[3:07:40] And then lastly the fund

[3:07:41] balance, you can see that we

[3:07:44] are one of the anticipated

[3:07:45] changes we made to our

[3:07:45] operation based on the reduced

[3:07:53] fees is not funding our to

[3:07:54] build up our fund balance.

[3:07:55] So you see if we remain in a

[3:07:57] negative position through

[3:07:57] the four year period.

[3:08:01] So next steps is following up

[3:08:02] the latter part of the hearing

[3:08:03] on the adoption of the report

[3:08:06] for the property tax bill

[3:08:10] Following this item between now

[3:08:10] and AUGUST 10th Mac will

[3:08:11] continue to review applications

[3:08:14] for fiscal Year 27 assistance.

[3:08:15] For those who will see

[3:08:15] the assistance in the form of a

[3:08:19] credit on their tax bill and

[3:08:19] then after AUGUST 10th they'll

[3:08:20] continue to review applications

[3:08:24] for rebate style And then by

[3:08:24] AUGUST 10th if City Council

[3:08:25] adopts the fee today the report

[3:08:29] today rather by AUGUST 10th

[3:08:29] will submit the report to

[3:08:30] the county and then between MAY

[3:08:34] and the SEPTEMBER will continue

[3:08:34] the rollout of the new

[3:08:38] recycling containers.

[3:08:39] >> And thank you for your time

[3:08:39] this afternoon.

[3:08:40] All right.

[3:08:40] Thank you for the work and

[3:08:42] the presentation.

[3:08:43] Deputy Clerk Please proceed

[3:08:48] with public comment.

[3:08:48] Thank you.

[3:08:48] Council PRESIDENT.

[3:08:50] We will begin with in-person

[3:08:51] public comment.

[3:08:56] Max Schmitt please come

[3:08:57] forward.

[3:08:59] You'll have two minutes to

[3:09:08] speak.

[3:09:08] Hi.

[3:09:09] I just wanted to say that

[3:09:13] increasing the fees increase

[3:09:17] for the monthly fees that

[3:09:18] homeowners pay for their trash

[3:09:22] and recycling services to me

[3:09:23] seems unnecessary.

[3:09:27] I believe that homeowners

[3:09:27] should not have to pay such

[3:09:31] high fees for trash and

[3:09:31] recycling.

[3:09:36] I believe that if

[3:09:37] the government was cut out of

[3:09:37] the situation and the homeowner

[3:09:41] could pay the trash or

[3:09:46] recycling company directly, it

[3:09:46] could be cheaper.

[3:09:50] And I think that property taxes

[3:09:51] could go down and I think

[3:09:55] property taxes are too high for

[3:10:00] people And I do not support

[3:10:00] giving the city of San Diego

[3:10:05] any more money.

[3:10:06] And it has to do with many

[3:10:06] reasons.

[3:10:10] And one is because of

[3:10:15] the underground hidden Catholic

[3:10:15] genocide that needs that hasn't

[3:10:16] been addressed.

[3:10:20] And I just also wanted to say

[3:10:21] that there's a one of the sides

[3:10:24] and raised fees says that are

[3:10:28] recycled containers are going

[3:10:29] to be repurposed into other

[3:10:30] plastic products and they tried

[3:10:33] to make it an environmental

[3:10:34] issue.

[3:10:35] And I just wanted to say there

[3:10:35] seems to be a connection and

[3:10:38] random tax increases and trying

[3:10:39] to help the environment where

[3:10:39] it seems like an age old

[3:10:44] liberal strategy straight out

[3:10:44] of the liberal playbook to

[3:10:45] throw in some slides about

[3:10:48] the environment when they

[3:10:49] increase, when they try to

[3:10:50] increase taxes I'm going to say

[3:10:53] this tax increase on property

[3:10:54] is a big deal and that I don't

[3:10:55] want the I don't think

[3:10:59] the climate should be used as a

[3:10:59] scapegoat to tax people more.

[3:11:00] And I will honestly say that I

[3:11:04] believe that Satan MAY be

[3:11:09] telling liberals to exaggerate

[3:11:09] the climate to try to tax

[3:11:10] people more.

[3:11:10] >> Thank you.

[3:11:11] That does conclude your time.

[3:11:20] Allegedly Audra definitely will

[3:11:21] use the climate to tax people

[3:11:25] more.

[3:11:26] This is interesting Why does

[3:11:29] the negative balance get

[3:11:30] smaller to 2029?

[3:11:30] >> That's interesting.

[3:11:31] I don't know if I'm reading it

[3:11:34] right and then saying there

[3:11:39] will be reductions through that

[3:11:39] year.

[3:11:40] I mean really because I feel

[3:11:41] like you guys are going to come

[3:11:43] back to us for more money at

[3:11:44] some point because it's not

[3:11:45] going to be enough.

[3:11:45] And again, you talk about

[3:11:49] people receiving trash cans.

[3:11:49] No, they're paying for them.

[3:11:50] Let's be real.

[3:11:54] They're forced to pay for those

[3:11:54] even if they don't need them.

[3:11:55] And the fact that you're saying

[3:11:59] you're going to recycle them I

[3:11:59] mean we'll see about that.

[3:12:00] I'm sure that's another racket

[3:12:04] that's going to be you know,

[3:12:04] engaged in because I mean

[3:12:05] anything you can make money off

[3:12:08] of people are like jumping on

[3:12:08] that.

[3:12:09] So I guess I was a little

[3:12:13] confused as well about Prop 218

[3:12:13] unfortunately.

[3:12:14] I guess it's like you guys can

[3:12:18] sit here and raise the fee as

[3:12:19] much as you want and as long as

[3:12:20] nobody's here to protest it

[3:12:23] doesn't matter Or so it's like

[3:12:24] oh so many loopholes that you

[3:12:28] know, get taken advantage of

[3:12:32] when people are you know,

[3:12:33] having to pay more money And

[3:12:33] these rfid chips I mean come

[3:12:37] on, You're like we're

[3:12:37] collecting debt.

[3:12:38] I mean the amount of data

[3:12:42] that's collected on people is

[3:12:43] just so insane, especially when

[3:12:44] these data centers like they're

[3:12:47] going to be taking all our

[3:12:48] fresh water.

[3:12:48] How cool is that?

[3:12:49] I mean are you guys excited for

[3:12:52] us to like figure out how ice

[3:12:53] is going to provide us with

[3:12:53] more water?

[3:12:56] Probably that'll be neat.

[3:12:57] But yeah, I just this is very

[3:13:01] sad because people should have

[3:13:02] the ability to say what they

[3:13:06] want as far as the tax goes and

[3:13:07] yet here we are again You're

[3:13:08] not going to have enough

[3:13:08] protests And so this is going

[3:13:12] to move forward And I'd like to

[3:13:13] know I mean what are you doing

[3:13:13] Because this was the million

[3:13:17] dollar lawsuit that made you

[3:13:17] reduce the fee.

[3:13:18] Are you going to give people a

[3:13:19] credit for what they paid in

[3:13:22] the interim of, you know, your

[3:13:22] mistake?

[3:13:23] >> Thank you.

[3:13:23] That does conclude your time.

[3:13:27] I have that That concludes

[3:13:28] in-person public comment.

[3:13:28] I have started the five minute

[3:13:32] timer in the committee room.

[3:13:33] We will now turn to the virtual

[3:13:35] queue in which there are

[3:13:36] currently three participants

[3:13:37] requesting to speak.

[3:13:39] We will begin with Hector.

[3:13:44] Please begin.

[3:13:44] Thanks guys.

[3:13:45] Yeah this is a different

[3:13:49] another example of a city not

[3:13:49] knowing what's going on where

[3:13:53] there was 2500 people getting

[3:13:54] their trash picked up that

[3:13:58] shouldn't have got it done.

[3:13:59] So they just found that out

[3:13:59] when they started doing

[3:14:03] the cans taken up some guy's

[3:14:04] apartment that should have had

[3:14:07] a commercial guy doing it.

[3:14:07] So this is probably not

[3:14:08] the only thing.

[3:14:09] There's other places in

[3:14:12] the city where they're giving

[3:14:13] out free services or they're

[3:14:17] giving out special deals to

[3:14:18] people that no one knows about

[3:14:18] yet.

[3:14:22] But this is another example.

[3:14:22] And then to set the record

[3:14:26] straight to build trust in

[3:14:27] the community, why don't you

[3:14:28] pull all the parking meters of

[3:14:32] Balboa Park now so we can have

[3:14:32] free parking over the summer to

[3:14:36] go visit Balboa Park and stuff

[3:14:37] That would be like show us a

[3:14:41] good sign of building trust in

[3:14:42] the community.

[3:14:46] Just just apologize to

[3:14:46] everybody for putting them

[3:14:50] through And you want to start

[3:14:51] you want to turn over a new

[3:14:55] leaf and go for it and then

[3:14:56] let's see there was one other

[3:14:57] thing I wanted to do.

[3:14:58] Yeah, you're going to charge

[3:15:01] them for the Oh yeah, the solid

[3:15:07] waste we got to get a solid

[3:15:07] waste factory down the t on a

[3:15:10] river and do some waste removal

[3:15:15] down there and I think that

[3:15:16] the city should focus on

[3:15:17] the t12 river sewer plant

[3:15:20] upgrades big time upgrade down

[3:15:21] there with solar use some of

[3:15:26] that recycle old stuff down

[3:15:27] there that that absorb all

[3:15:31] the sewer gas and everything

[3:15:32] Anyway it's going to be it's

[3:15:33] going to be a good summer.

[3:15:36] It's going to be hot and that

[3:15:37] stuff's going to smell terrible

[3:15:40] for the kids.

[3:15:41] So that's that's should be our

[3:15:42] number one focus.

[3:15:42] Okay.

[3:15:45] Thank you.

[3:15:46] Thank you.

[3:15:47] We'll go to our next speaker

[3:15:51] with a caller What the last

[3:16:01] four digits 8700 Please begin.

[3:16:01] Thank you, Joy.

[3:16:05] Senator, I just have a bachelor

[3:16:05] of Arts and ends.

[3:16:10] Thank you for the update esd

[3:16:10] Very very good update.

[3:16:11] Thank you.

[3:16:15] Also for our great financial

[3:16:16] assistance program that you're

[3:16:19] you've been rolling out.

[3:16:20] It sounds very successful still

[3:16:25] available and just thank you so

[3:16:26] much I appreciate the recycling

[3:16:31] of the container and I thank

[3:16:32] you for improved line Thank you

[3:16:36] everybody for improved

[3:16:36] alignment with Measure b in a

[3:16:41] question for you esd would you

[3:16:42] and Director Kirby Brady

[3:16:47] discuss adding qualitative data

[3:16:51] to the metrics that would be

[3:16:52] really super for you to explore

[3:16:53] that innovative idea?

[3:16:57] It's not really innovative.

[3:16:57] It's being used throughout a

[3:16:58] lot of other different areas in

[3:17:02] government, in business and so

[3:17:03] forth.

[3:17:03] So let's see what is this We

[3:17:08] can always improve customer

[3:17:09] relations right and community

[3:17:09] outreach and engagement.

[3:17:13] So any efforts that you can

[3:17:14] approve to make those better

[3:17:14] would be absolutely super duper

[3:17:19] love the customer donations.

[3:17:20] >> Thank you Customers Whoever

[3:17:23] you are you get five stars.

[3:17:24] I think it's up to $67,000.

[3:17:29] So thank you and thank you sd g

[3:17:34] and e, I mean I don't get it

[3:17:35] but if there's an opportunity

[3:17:36] to thank them for caring about

[3:17:40] the community, let's do it.

[3:17:40] So their care program I guess

[3:17:45] can be added to our quote They

[3:17:46] can qualify if they qualify for

[3:17:47] our programs that program can

[3:17:47] be added to it.

[3:17:51] So I feel really, really good

[3:17:52] and I want to be sure and thank

[3:17:53] them for any little steps big

[3:17:57] steps.

[3:17:58] We want some big steps if any.

[3:17:59] But thank you for that.

[3:18:03] And again this is a great item

[3:18:03] We've made great project

[3:18:08] progress lessons learned all

[3:18:08] thank you.

[3:18:09] Our next speaker is Toni.

[3:18:19] Please begin your comments.

[3:18:20] Toni please please unmute and

[3:18:25] begin your comments.

[3:18:26] >> Can you hear me?

[3:18:26] Yes we can hear you.

[3:18:27] Please begin.

[3:18:31] Thank you.

[3:18:32] Hey I am in support of this

[3:18:32] measure.

[3:18:37] I think that it's necessary.

[3:18:38] I think we need to have some

[3:18:38] type of crash service.

[3:18:42] I would love to see putting in

[3:18:43] more of an effort to create

[3:18:43] some some conversations.

[3:18:44] I know that we do have like

[3:18:49] green compost at some areas

[3:18:49] like the Mira mesa landfill for

[3:18:50] example.

[3:18:50] But I know that we don't have

[3:18:54] any actual compost landfills

[3:18:54] that are designed for like

[3:19:00] biodegradable plates and cups

[3:19:01] and utensils and things like

[3:19:01] that.

[3:19:02] Or please correct me if I'm

[3:19:06] wrong whenever y'all respond to

[3:19:06] these comments, please please

[3:19:07] let me know if there is a

[3:19:08] compostable site because as far

[3:19:11] as I know like when you pick up

[3:19:12] compostable plates or utensils

[3:19:12] or whatever even napkins they

[3:19:17] all say on the packaging itself

[3:19:18] they say only it's only

[3:19:18] disposable or only compostable

[3:19:23] within compostable landfill

[3:19:23] facilities.

[3:19:24] I have not I don't know of any

[3:19:29] that exist here in San Diego

[3:19:30] and that would be a huge

[3:19:31] incentive for people within

[3:19:31] the sustainable community and

[3:19:35] for waste at large.

[3:19:36] If we can if we can eliminate

[3:19:37] the mass amount of plastics

[3:19:42] that we're using, we would be

[3:19:42] so much better off if we could

[3:19:43] create some type of ordinances

[3:19:47] requiring packaging on foods

[3:19:52] and on goods to use alternative

[3:19:53] packaging because I mean we've

[3:19:54] been beholden to the DuPont

[3:19:59] monopoly on plastics for far

[3:19:59] too long and there's way too

[3:20:04] many alternatives that exist

[3:20:05] for packaging including like

[3:20:10] amp which has been declassified

[3:20:11] .

[3:20:11] It's now available for

[3:20:12] commercial use.

[3:20:17] It's now not scheduled as like

[3:20:18] a narcotic as it previously was

[3:20:22] as of 2019 the end of the first

[3:20:26] Trump administration was one of

[3:20:26] the things we did idly on his

[3:20:27] way out legalizing hemp which

[3:20:32] was super cool and really

[3:20:32] unexpected.

[3:20:33] >> Thank you Anyway, conclude

[3:20:33] your time.

[3:20:34] Thank you.

[3:20:38] That concludes the public

[3:20:39] testimony on item 330.

[3:20:39] All right.

[3:20:40] Thank you, Deputy Clerk.

[3:20:44] A reminder this is an

[3:20:44] information item No motions

[3:20:45] required but I'll turn it over

[3:20:46] to council member for questions

[3:20:49] and comments and we'll start

[3:20:50] with Councilmember Rivera.

[3:20:51] Thank you, Health PRESIDENT.

[3:20:51] Thanks for the presentation,

[3:20:55] Jeremy and for all the work

[3:21:00] that led up to this.

[3:21:01] A couple of questions.

[3:21:02] One and this is for you and or

[3:21:07] Jordan the fund balance that

[3:21:08] was was shown there.

[3:21:13] What are the effects of that?

[3:21:19] >> So when we think of

[3:21:20] the question council member

[3:21:20] when we crossed the threshold

[3:21:21] of a fiscal year with a

[3:21:22] negative balance we do have

[3:21:25] the ability to pay that

[3:21:26] enterprise fund a one day loan

[3:21:31] to cross the threshold at a non

[3:21:32] zero and then the first day of

[3:21:33] the next fiscal year to pay it

[3:21:33] back.

[3:21:38] So there's an ability to cross

[3:21:38] the fiscal year with negative

[3:21:43] ultimately as we adopted

[3:21:44] the fee last year the goal was

[3:21:45] to build up a reserve fund.

[3:21:50] We are postponing that at this

[3:21:51] time but long term that is

[3:21:51] something we can do.

[3:21:52] Does it Ultimately we would

[3:21:53] want to be in a position with

[3:21:56] with a positive balance.

[3:21:56] I turned over to Jordan to get

[3:21:57] more.

[3:22:01] Yeah, I mean it mostly did It

[3:22:02] mostly starts to be a big

[3:22:03] budgeting problem If you have a

[3:22:03] lot of on balances with a

[3:22:07] negative fund balance which is

[3:22:07] why we typically try to

[3:22:08] highlight these things if we're

[3:22:09] seeing many of them.

[3:22:13] Jeremy is correct as far as esd

[3:22:14] goes because he is he also runs

[3:22:14] two other large enterprise

[3:22:15] funds.

[3:22:18] They currently are projected to

[3:22:19] have positive cash balances So

[3:22:20] within esd you will be fine.

[3:22:24] But again it's not a good

[3:22:25] practice.

[3:22:25] The original cost of service

[3:22:26] did anticipate building up a

[3:22:32] reserve over a number of years

[3:22:32] in order to adjust to

[3:22:33] fluctuations that MAY or MAY

[3:22:34] not happen in between cost of

[3:22:34] service studies.

[3:22:37] But at this point right now

[3:22:38] given where we are with

[3:22:38] the fees, the settlements,

[3:22:39] etc., the best course of action

[3:22:43] at this point is just to manage

[3:22:43] the fund where it is because

[3:22:44] otherwise you would be

[3:22:49] requiring the general fund to

[3:22:49] be spending more money into

[3:22:50] the fund in order to try to get

[3:22:51] out of that negative fund

[3:22:54] balance quicker than what's

[3:22:55] currently projected.

[3:22:55] Right.

[3:23:00] Okay.

[3:23:01] And I'll note too.

[3:23:02] So originally the plan was for

[3:23:07] the fund to Jeremy correct me

[3:23:07] if I'm wrong it would have

[3:23:08] gotten out of negative balance

[3:23:12] around what your 2 or 3?

[3:23:13] Correct.

[3:23:13] Yeah.

[3:23:14] So there was a plan to get

[3:23:14] there for it.

[3:23:15] This might have just been

[3:23:17] changed.

[3:23:23] Okay.

[3:23:29] Will it be a problem?

[3:23:30] It would it would be a bigger

[3:23:31] problem if the fund balance was

[3:23:31] going the other way.

[3:23:34] So one of the reasons why

[3:23:35] you're actually seeing that

[3:23:36] going into a but it's going

[3:23:41] smaller is because a lot of

[3:23:41] that is the general fund paying

[3:23:42] back for costs that were

[3:23:45] incurred but not reimbursed in

[3:23:45] the first year If it was

[3:23:46] getting larger perpetually

[3:23:47] larger that would be a problem

[3:23:51] that you would see because then

[3:23:52] you don't have a plan at which

[3:23:53] you there would be no plan in

[3:23:56] order to to bring it back in at

[3:23:57] that point you would need to

[3:23:58] start taking financial actions

[3:23:59] to bring it back into positive

[3:24:03] balance which would either

[3:24:04] require more general fund

[3:24:04] subsidies or higher fees and a

[3:24:05] subsequent cost of service

[3:24:09] study.

[3:24:10] Thank you.

[3:24:10] We've talked about this a

[3:24:11] little bit but I want to make

[3:24:15] sure I drill down just a little

[3:24:15] bit more.

[3:24:21] Some of services that are

[3:24:22] provided or planned to be

[3:24:28] provided are now that the plan

[3:24:28] is scaled back.

[3:24:32] Are there and there's

[3:24:33] the services that residents can

[3:24:38] receive and experience as a

[3:24:39] result of those operations.

[3:24:40] And then there's the diversion

[3:24:44] from our landfill.

[3:24:45] There's climate action goals

[3:24:50] that we're pursuing.

[3:24:51] Are there plans in place or is

[3:24:56] there planning happening to

[3:25:02] pursue those goals to reduce

[3:25:03] what ends up in the landfill in

[3:25:04] a different way than what we

[3:25:08] we'd planned for?

[3:25:09] >> Yes.

[3:25:09] Councilmember one One example

[3:25:10] is investment of some of our

[3:25:15] recycling staff from our waste

[3:25:16] reduction division to be

[3:25:21] stopped at the landfill itself

[3:25:21] at the gate that help identify

[3:25:22] loads of waste that is heading

[3:25:27] towards the face of

[3:25:28] the landfill but to engage with

[3:25:28] them to divert what's

[3:25:33] recyclable from that load.

[3:25:34] >> Additionally, as I mentioned

[3:25:35] in my remarks, additional

[3:25:39] outreach to help customers

[3:25:40] understand that for a second

[3:25:45] recycling container is more

[3:25:45] affordable than it was last

[3:25:46] year and make sure they know

[3:25:46] that.

[3:25:50] So if they need to order a

[3:25:51] second recycling container they

[3:25:52] can do so at a subsidized rate.

[3:25:52] Okay.

[3:25:57] I appreciate that And

[3:25:58] the reason I keep asking what

[3:25:59] this part is and we're going to

[3:25:59] continue our conversations at

[3:26:02] this environment committee and

[3:26:03] hopefully at the full council

[3:26:08] is the closure of the landfill

[3:26:09] is it's not a small deal for

[3:26:09] the city.

[3:26:13] It's a really, really big one

[3:26:14] on a variety of fronts.

[3:26:14] And so I want to make sure that

[3:26:19] we're doing everything we can

[3:26:20] to push that out or at least

[3:26:22] not accelerate cliff that we're

[3:26:29] running toward.

[3:26:29] Okay.

[3:26:35] Is there anything that you are

[3:26:35] not planning to do but you

[3:26:40] would like to be able to do

[3:26:47] that doesn't involve the weekly

[3:26:48] recycling or something that was

[3:26:49] already planned for?

[3:26:49] I don't know if that makes

[3:26:50] sense Or are there other

[3:26:53] strategies or tactics that are

[3:26:54] being considered as a way of

[3:26:54] again either pushing out

[3:26:56] the cliff or at least not

[3:26:57] accelerating our approach to

[3:27:09] the cliff?

[3:27:10] The clean up division helps

[3:27:15] with some of the community

[3:27:15] cleanup events that is a

[3:27:16] general fund funded division.

[3:27:17] So to the extent that that

[3:27:21] division had more funding

[3:27:21] available they could be more

[3:27:22] available to do those community

[3:27:26] cleanups And when our staff are

[3:27:27] directly involved in cleanup

[3:27:28] events it's easier to divert to

[3:27:28] separate segregate recyclable

[3:27:33] materials versus materials that

[3:27:34] are intended for the landfill

[3:27:34] itself.

[3:27:34] Yeah.

[3:27:35] And just to kind of give it to

[3:27:39] you if you can to reiterate to

[3:27:44] all of us from a financial

[3:27:45] perspective the impacts of are

[3:27:50] closing sooner rather than

[3:27:50] later or being able to push

[3:27:51] that out.

[3:27:52] >> I mean it's hard to quantify

[3:27:57] at this point But I will tell

[3:27:58] you as is so Miramar as it

[3:27:58] stands right now is

[3:28:02] the cheapest place to deposit

[3:28:03] solid waste and go to recycling

[3:28:04] to do those things.

[3:28:04] And the reason why it's

[3:28:08] the cheapest is because it's

[3:28:09] managed by the city.

[3:28:09] Right.

[3:28:10] So this would be similar to you

[3:28:10] know, if the city was able to

[3:28:14] manage its water to a

[3:28:15] wholesaler as opposed to having

[3:28:16] a different entity charge you

[3:28:16] to do different things.

[3:28:21] So to that end, if Miramar goes

[3:28:21] away as being the place where

[3:28:22] waste could go to be deposited

[3:28:26] and the city does have to start

[3:28:27] going to other private

[3:28:28] landfills which I believe it's

[3:28:32] only private landfills that are

[3:28:32] remaining in the county At that

[3:28:33] point you now have to pay

[3:28:37] either their disposal fees

[3:28:38] which will make the cost for

[3:28:39] collection services go up which

[3:28:40] will then require either higher

[3:28:43] fees on homeowners or

[3:28:44] additional general fund

[3:28:44] dollars.

[3:28:45] There's also the options to do

[3:28:50] the transfer station But again

[3:28:51] the transfer station just

[3:28:51] because it's extra steps it

[3:28:52] could be cheaper than

[3:28:56] the landfills directly but it

[3:28:56] still would not be the same as

[3:28:57] just being able to utilize me

[3:28:58] or mine the way it's currently

[3:29:02] being utilized.

[3:29:03] >> And then there's the tipping

[3:29:04] fees that we want And

[3:29:08] the tipping fee is what you for

[3:29:09] collection services Even though

[3:29:10] it's city of San Diego dumping

[3:29:11] a city San Diego site pays to

[3:29:15] dump at the Miramar land

[3:29:15] tipping fees that we received

[3:29:16] from from other entities as

[3:29:16] well correct?

[3:29:20] >> So yeah so those will come

[3:29:20] up We'll have to figure out a

[3:29:21] way to run the landfill.

[3:29:22] One landfills run other

[3:29:26] operations without receiving

[3:29:27] tipping fees both from the city

[3:29:27] of San Diego and from outside

[3:29:28] entities as well because

[3:29:29] they'll no longer be a landfill

[3:29:32] to operate.

[3:29:33] I appreciate this and I know

[3:29:34] we've talked to this a bit.

[3:29:34] I just I keep hammering this

[3:29:38] part because I think there was

[3:29:39] a perception that we could

[3:29:39] recycling was a nice to have

[3:29:44] and I suppose it was from a

[3:29:45] perspective of it's not

[3:29:46] something that the city needed

[3:29:51] to do today necessarily and

[3:29:51] it's not necessarily something

[3:29:52] that residents all needed on a

[3:29:53] weekly basis but it served a

[3:29:56] greater purpose that has

[3:29:57] significant environmental and

[3:30:02] economic impacts for the city

[3:30:02] over the long term.

[3:30:03] And so as with everything that

[3:30:08] we deal with, there are no easy

[3:30:09] outs And you know, not doing

[3:30:14] weekly recycling solves for one

[3:30:15] problem and it creates others

[3:30:16] as well And we just need to be

[3:30:16] eyes wide open about that.

[3:30:21] And I appreciate the creativity

[3:30:21] of of esd on how we're going to

[3:30:26] approach that.

[3:30:27] I think it's going to require a

[3:30:27] group effort.

[3:30:28] I remember a few years ago I

[3:30:32] asked the ways in which in my

[3:30:33] mail services was kind of boxed

[3:30:38] in by not being able to recover

[3:30:39] cost And I actually got a

[3:30:39] really interesting response to

[3:30:40] that question which was in

[3:30:45] certain ways requires the city

[3:30:46] to be more creative because

[3:30:50] there the ability to recover

[3:30:51] costs just wasn't there.

[3:30:52] And so it looks like you're

[3:30:52] leaning back into that

[3:30:57] creativity that we needed to

[3:30:57] use in the past.

[3:30:58] But the General General Fund

[3:31:06] still has in a period

[3:31:07] significant costs I think as a

[3:31:08] result of this.

[3:31:08] Last thing I want to say is

[3:31:12] thank you again for

[3:31:12] the outreach and the really

[3:31:13] intentional effort there to to

[3:31:18] make sure that folks know about

[3:31:18] know about the rebate or

[3:31:19] the refund programs or

[3:31:24] the discount programs.

[3:31:25] That was very important to us.

[3:31:26] That was important to us before

[3:31:31] we ever got to the program up

[3:31:32] and running and will continue

[3:31:32] to be important to me as well.

[3:31:33] So thank you again for

[3:31:33] the work.

[3:31:37] Thank you for the time.

[3:31:37] Council PRESIDENT.

[3:31:38] All right.

[3:31:38] Thank you, Councilmember

[3:31:39] Talavera.

[3:31:39] We'll go next to Councilmember

[3:31:40] Moreno.

[3:31:42] Thank you And thank you for

[3:31:42] the presentation.

[3:31:43] I want to start off by thinking

[3:31:48] of the environmental Services

[3:31:48] Department for the incredible

[3:31:49] work you guys do day in, day

[3:31:54] out This past MARCH I had

[3:31:55] the pleasure of joining city

[3:31:56] staff for a ride along during a

[3:32:01] trash pickup day in District

[3:32:01] eight and the A.T.M. At

[3:32:05] the Miramar Landfill Operations

[3:32:06] station.

[3:32:07] Pretty impressive piece of work

[3:32:12] that we have there in the city

[3:32:12] of San Diego.

[3:32:13] I think the yard has

[3:32:17] the collection services,

[3:32:18] the division, the container

[3:32:19] management program and

[3:32:23] the trash pickup for truck

[3:32:24] maintenance crews.

[3:32:24] We exited the operation station

[3:32:30] and what really astounded me

[3:32:30] was the hundreds of trucks that

[3:32:36] are housed at the station just

[3:32:36] and just how everybody left in

[3:32:37] just it was almost like a

[3:32:38] beautiful symphony of trash

[3:32:43] trucks going out And I was able

[3:32:43] to ride one of the trucks

[3:32:48] driven by MR. Enrique Rojas,

[3:32:49] also known as Kiki.

[3:32:49] MR. Rojas has been a sanitation

[3:32:50] worker for the city of San

[3:32:54] Diego for almost 40 years and

[3:32:55] he was kind enough to share his

[3:33:00] experience with me as we drove

[3:33:01] south to the southern part of

[3:33:01] the district.

[3:33:05] And one of the things that I

[3:33:06] was just taken aback by is that

[3:33:11] these folks are really

[3:33:12] sometimes for a lot of

[3:33:13] residents their number one

[3:33:16] people rate the number one

[3:33:17] person that they first connect

[3:33:21] with in the city of San Diego.

[3:33:22] The love and admiration from

[3:33:23] the kids was also really quite

[3:33:29] impressive And MR. Rojas just

[3:33:29] really went out of his way to

[3:33:34] accommodate every question,

[3:33:35] every comment.

[3:33:35] So just kudos to him and I'm

[3:33:41] sure I was probably a thorn on

[3:33:42] his back for the morning But

[3:33:43] nonetheless it was it was quite

[3:33:47] the experience.

[3:33:48] We were in the community of

[3:33:53] Nestor and unbeknownst to me we

[3:33:54] were for a time we were being

[3:33:55] followed by another vehicle

[3:33:59] that was collecting the empty

[3:33:59] containers.

[3:34:00] So this allowed me to see

[3:34:04] firsthand just

[3:34:05] the complications of this

[3:34:06] rollout of such a just a

[3:34:11] massive scale But it was

[3:34:11] impressive to see how you know,

[3:34:12] obviously they work together

[3:34:13] and and how complicated this

[3:34:16] endeavor was Truly complicated.

[3:34:17] My ride along ended with with

[3:34:22] the Otay landfill in Chula

[3:34:23] Vista and just the impressive

[3:34:24] work that goes there I believe

[3:34:28] it's owned by Republic if I'm

[3:34:29] not mistaken.

[3:34:30] So I was able to see firsthand

[3:34:35] what the esd men and women do

[3:34:36] daily and it's just incredible

[3:34:36] to witness the magnitude of

[3:34:40] work that happens behind

[3:34:41] the scenes of a service that I

[3:34:42] think often goes unnoticed.

[3:34:42] So I'm just extremely grateful

[3:34:48] to all the sd everybody in sd

[3:34:48] because I know it's not just

[3:34:49] the folks speaking up.

[3:34:53] It's like I said, it's like a

[3:34:53] symphony.

[3:34:54] It was grueling and it was

[3:34:59] demanding just but the one

[3:34:59] thing that it was very clear to

[3:35:04] me is it's so it's such a it's

[3:35:11] such a it's something like I

[3:35:12] said that we don't think about

[3:35:12] And thanks to you guys we don't

[3:35:13] have to think about it.

[3:35:16] It's just so invaluable to

[3:35:16] the quality of life.

[3:35:17] I quickly understood if these

[3:35:22] men and women decide not to

[3:35:23] show up one day or even two it

[3:35:24] would just be super detrimental

[3:35:28] to the city workers.

[3:35:28] So just wanted to say recognize

[3:35:29] them and thank them for

[3:35:33] everything that they do.

[3:35:34] Moving on to the updates

[3:35:39] regarding the implementation, I

[3:35:40] want to note that this is

[3:35:41] obviously it's important to me

[3:35:45] that residents receive access

[3:35:45] to financial aid.

[3:35:47] How many financial aid clinics

[3:35:53] have we helped stop Checking my

[3:35:57] notes I believe it's 22 with

[3:35:58] six since the APRIL 30th

[3:36:01] deadline for fiscal year 26

[3:36:02] assistance and they've

[3:36:03] continued after that And we're

[3:36:03] currently coordinating with

[3:36:08] macc to identify dates for

[3:36:08] additional clinics for that And

[3:36:09] these are in-person right?

[3:36:12] The 22 they are in person

[3:36:13] Wonderful.

[3:36:13] >> And how many have been held

[3:36:17] in District eight I believe it

[3:36:18] was four would double check my

[3:36:19] notes but my recollection was

[3:36:21] it was it was four.

[3:36:22] Got you.

[3:36:22] And at what times have these

[3:36:23] clinics been held?

[3:36:27] They've been approximately

[3:36:31] again MR. Memory around 930 in

[3:36:32] the morning to 330 in

[3:36:32] the afternoon give or take.

[3:36:33] >> And I do appreciate

[3:36:37] the effort that esd has put to

[3:36:38] reaching out to the community.

[3:36:38] I am concerned regarding

[3:36:43] the times that we've chosen to

[3:36:43] hold these clinics and this

[3:36:48] would be a follow not a follow

[3:36:49] up but a critique if you will.

[3:36:49] I represent a working class

[3:36:54] community where folks often

[3:36:54] have just more than one job and

[3:36:55] I do find it problematic that

[3:36:56] these clinics are not being

[3:37:00] held past 530 or even on

[3:37:00] weekends when residents are

[3:37:05] more likely to attend.

[3:37:06] I'd also like to ask given that

[3:37:06] the program can support

[3:37:09] approximately 7000 customers

[3:37:14] and only 3897 applications have

[3:37:14] been received right Not

[3:37:18] accepted Receive That's correct

[3:37:19] .

[3:37:19] What target outreach tactics

[3:37:20] are being considered for fiscal

[3:37:23] year 27 to increase

[3:37:24] the participation And out of

[3:37:28] those?

[3:37:28] So that's one question.

[3:37:29] And the second question is out

[3:37:33] of those 3897, how much how

[3:37:34] many have been accepted?

[3:37:35] So I'll take the last one

[3:37:35] first.

[3:37:39] So far around 2300 have been

[3:37:43] fully approved of the of

[3:37:43] the nearly 4004.

[3:37:44] I thank you for the feedback on

[3:37:44] the timing.

[3:37:48] I'll note last year one of

[3:37:48] the constraints with

[3:37:49] involvement of our staff is

[3:37:53] that the financial assistance

[3:37:54] program is general fund funded

[3:37:59] and our program was funded by

[3:37:59] the rate payers.

[3:38:00] Now that will be entering a

[3:38:03] subsidized program with general

[3:38:03] fund we might have

[3:38:04] the opportunity to explore

[3:38:05] whether staff could become

[3:38:09] involved in either providing

[3:38:10] more assistance or even

[3:38:10] attending more clinics

[3:38:11] something we can look into now

[3:38:14] that we're not 1% but we have

[3:38:15] Sorry you've made me think of

[3:38:19] another question We have enough

[3:38:19] money for up to 7000 folks.

[3:38:20] That's correct.

[3:38:24] So that isn't a question.

[3:38:24] And on that note, on

[3:38:28] the targeted outreach we've one

[3:38:29] one item we've done is reached

[3:38:30] out to the county to see if

[3:38:31] there's any information they

[3:38:33] could share either of those

[3:38:34] folks who MAY have in the past

[3:38:35] had inability to pay their

[3:38:39] property taxes on time.

[3:38:40] Also if they'd be willing to

[3:38:41] pass along our information if

[3:38:44] they couldn't share

[3:38:44] the addresses directly.

[3:38:45] And then additionally we've

[3:38:45] been coordinating with

[3:38:49] community based organizations

[3:38:49] and to invite them to pass

[3:38:50] along information on

[3:38:50] the program to their

[3:38:51] communities they serve in their

[3:38:54] networks.

[3:38:54] Okay.

[3:38:55] And that is what that's

[3:39:00] the tactic to get more folks to

[3:39:00] apply or yeah I guess at this

[3:39:04] point to just apply right?

[3:39:04] Yes.

[3:39:05] And the other thing I would

[3:39:07] note is one of the feedback we

[3:39:08] received in the first year was

[3:39:13] rather than having people apply

[3:39:13] from scratch in the second

[3:39:14] year, can we streamline so that

[3:39:16] if they qualified from one year

[3:39:17] if they remain the property

[3:39:17] owner of that property have it

[3:39:21] be two year increments And what

[3:39:22] that means is for the second

[3:39:23] year we're not starting from

[3:39:23] zero.

[3:39:27] We're essentially starting from

[3:39:27] and then we can build from

[3:39:28] there 2300 correct.

[3:39:31] Which would be okay And there

[3:39:32] is an opening and a closing

[3:39:32] right?

[3:39:33] When is the opening and closing

[3:39:36] of these applications for

[3:39:39] the fiscal year 24 fiscal year

[3:39:40] 26.

[3:39:40] The program launched in JANUARY

[3:39:43] and it was through APRIL 30th

[3:39:44] are now starting MAY 1st

[3:39:48] through we projected next year

[3:39:48] APRIL 30th.

[3:39:49] And the reason for that it

[3:39:52] gives us an ability to go

[3:39:53] through all of the applications

[3:39:54] received and then get through

[3:39:57] that queue and get

[3:39:58] the assistance out before

[3:39:59] the end of the fiscal year.

[3:39:59] So it's currently open

[3:40:03] the application process is

[3:40:03] currently current.

[3:40:08] Okay And Mac is a provider or a

[3:40:08] partner I should say.

[3:40:09] What are we paying Mac to do

[3:40:12] This work The first fiscal year

[3:40:17] fiscal 26 it was approximate

[3:40:18] only on the order of 500,000

[3:40:18] for the year for next fiscal

[3:40:22] year Again based on approximate

[3:40:23] memory it's on the order of

[3:40:26] around 250,000.

[3:40:27] >> So part of the reason

[3:40:27] the first year was more was

[3:40:28] standing up the program and

[3:40:30] building infrastructure So it's

[3:40:31] 500,000 to put on 15 clinics

[3:40:35] and to accept or deny

[3:40:35] the applications correct and

[3:40:36] also to outreach for

[3:40:36] the applications.

[3:40:37] That's correct.

[3:40:40] Okay.

[3:40:40] What's the average wait time

[3:40:41] for a financial assistance

[3:40:45] application So I can answer

[3:40:45] that question indirectly They

[3:40:50] have been getting through a

[3:40:53] round lately around 100 to 200

[3:40:53] applications a week.

[3:40:54] It's hard to give an exact

[3:40:58] average because a lot of

[3:40:58] the applications if they're

[3:40:59] 100% complete they have all

[3:41:00] the information they can

[3:41:02] approve it very quickly.

[3:41:03] What they've been doing is if

[3:41:04] an application is missing

[3:41:08] information, they've been

[3:41:08] reaching out, calling

[3:41:09] the applicant or calling them

[3:41:11] waiting them to call back to

[3:41:12] get missing information or

[3:41:12] corrected information.

[3:41:13] So depending on how responsive

[3:41:17] an applicant is that could

[3:41:17] extend how long it how long it

[3:41:18] would take.

[3:41:21] >> We have 3997 applications.

[3:41:25] So can you tell me how long You

[3:41:26] probably can't tell me right

[3:41:27] now but can you tell me

[3:41:30] the median wait time for

[3:41:31] the financial assistance

[3:41:35] application for maybe even say

[3:41:36] the 2300?

[3:41:37] I guess we should only include

[3:41:41] that because there are also So

[3:41:44] for the 3897 if I could know

[3:41:45] how many you know how long it

[3:41:49] takes just on average even not

[3:41:50] putting into consideration any

[3:41:50] variable just this is what it's

[3:41:55] taking I would say multiple

[3:41:59] months to give you an average

[3:42:00] it would include the date that

[3:42:00] application was received and

[3:42:01] then the date.

[3:42:04] So it would be looking at

[3:42:04] the individual factors for all

[3:42:05] 4000.

[3:42:10] I can check with a mac I'm not

[3:42:10] going to put them on the slide

[3:42:11] unless they I would say no I

[3:42:12] wouldn't want that.

[3:42:14] I can even just an email just

[3:42:15] so I could see it and I would

[3:42:18] our staff and Mac also to

[3:42:19] factor in working families

[3:42:23] schedules for I mentioned that

[3:42:24] for the clinics if they could

[3:42:28] start later in the day

[3:42:28] obviously robust outreach for

[3:42:29] residents consider senior

[3:42:33] citizens especially

[3:42:33] the inability to attend some of

[3:42:38] the meetings I think is going

[3:42:39] to be a factor and also

[3:42:42] the fact that a lot of well I

[3:42:43] shouldn't say a lot 10% of

[3:42:44] the population in my district

[3:42:47] are they exist within

[3:42:48] the digital divide.

[3:42:52] So they have they do not have

[3:42:52] access to any, you know, smart

[3:42:53] form phone wi fi.

[3:42:57] So really getting creative on

[3:43:01] how we outreach this program so

[3:43:02] our residents able to walk into

[3:43:06] Mac's installations and receive

[3:43:07] information for the financial

[3:43:07] assistance program.

[3:43:11] I understand that there their

[3:43:16] offices are in Chula Vista but

[3:43:17] is is a resident are we able to

[3:43:18] send a resident to the Mac

[3:43:21] facility to apply in Chula

[3:43:22] Vista?

[3:43:22] They aren't staffed and set up

[3:43:26] to accept walk in the clinics

[3:43:27] are the primary approach and so

[3:43:32] i thank you for the feedback on

[3:43:33] the timing of those events and

[3:43:34] that's something we can look at

[3:43:34] for the coming years and sketch

[3:43:36] with those to make sure they're

[3:43:36] accessible.

[3:43:36] >> Thank you.

[3:43:40] And so obviously just to put it

[3:43:41] on the record, future clinics

[3:43:45] are being considered in other

[3:43:45] communities in addition to San

[3:43:46] Ysidro and Logan Heights.

[3:43:46] Right.

[3:43:47] We're looking at Otay Mesa

[3:43:50] Nester Egger I just want to put

[3:43:51] that on the record and I just

[3:43:55] have a few more maybe a minute

[3:43:55] or two.

[3:43:56] Once again it's important to me

[3:43:59] that residents in District

[3:43:59] eight have the opportunity to

[3:44:00] easily participate in

[3:44:04] the financial assistance

[3:44:04] clinics provided by esd.

[3:44:05] It's good to hear that you guys

[3:44:09] might jump in and get some of

[3:44:09] that intellectual property

[3:44:14] right that we're handing over

[3:44:14] to Mac.

[3:44:15] Thank you Mac by the way.

[3:44:19] And so yeah, we should make it

[3:44:23] easier rather than harder for

[3:44:24] folks to apply And so that

[3:44:28] would be my concluding comments

[3:44:29] But once again just tremendous

[3:44:30] work that the men and women did

[3:44:34] out in in esd Just it was truly

[3:44:38] phenomenal and it was tough too

[3:44:39] And I actually got to lift up a

[3:44:39] trash can.

[3:44:43] So that was that was really

[3:44:43] cool.

[3:44:44] So please thank Kiki and all of

[3:44:45] his and I think we're working

[3:44:47] on a ride share That's what

[3:44:48] came out of this conversation

[3:44:49] is a ride share with sandag.

[3:44:52] So it was a really fun time And

[3:44:53] thank you you guys.

[3:44:53] I appreciate it.

[3:44:54] Thank you, Councilmember.

[3:44:54] All right.

[3:44:55] Thank you.

[3:44:57] COUNCILMAN Moreno.

[3:44:58] We'll go next to Councilmember

[3:44:59] Camp You you council PRESIDENT.

[3:44:59] Thank you to our staff

[3:45:01] obviously Environmental

[3:45:02] Services does an excellent and

[3:45:03] important job for making sure

[3:45:07] public is safe and healthy and

[3:45:08] million other things.

[3:45:09] We wanted to just get a sense

[3:45:11] of one of the issues in

[3:45:15] the staff report It looks like

[3:45:16] the first rfid readers aren't

[3:45:16] working out but we're going to

[3:45:17] a second one.

[3:45:18] Can you give us a little more

[3:45:18] information on that?

[3:45:20] Oh yes.

[3:45:21] So we discussed last JUNE that

[3:45:25] all the new containers come

[3:45:25] with the rfid Readers

[3:45:26] themselves are in

[3:45:26] the containers and that our

[3:45:30] plan was to test hardware

[3:45:31] through a pilot before we

[3:45:35] invested in installing on our

[3:45:38] on our fleet of trucks We did

[3:45:39] test one hardware the detection

[3:45:43] rate and the versatility of

[3:45:44] the equipment was not

[3:45:48] sufficient for our in our

[3:45:49] perspective to invest the money

[3:45:50] to buy 150 to 200 of those

[3:45:53] devices.

[3:45:54] In that sense we see it as a

[3:45:55] successful pilot and that we

[3:45:58] were able to conclude something

[3:45:59] before purchasing varig

[3:46:03] the same the same vendor that

[3:46:04] makes the containers we became

[3:46:04] aware also makes this hardware

[3:46:09] So our next step is to test

[3:46:09] that hardware and if and only

[3:46:13] if it also turns out to be

[3:46:13] successful scanning meeting our

[3:46:14] Detectability goals Then at

[3:46:17] that point we would plan to

[3:46:18] invest in the equipment to

[3:46:19] install on the trucks.

[3:46:22] Okay understood.

[3:46:22] In terms of the second pilot

[3:46:23] that we see we're at, where

[3:46:27] have we already started testing

[3:46:27] that as early this summer?

[3:46:28] So we have an item coming to

[3:46:31] council in the coming weeks or

[3:46:32] so to consider the contract

[3:46:36] vehicle that would allow us to

[3:46:37] buy the equipment.

[3:46:37] Very good.

[3:46:41] Okay.

[3:46:42] What's the long term plan?

[3:46:42] What what's plan c if this one

[3:46:44] doesn't work Because rfid chips

[3:46:45] are important for us to be able

[3:46:50] to certify that we're charging

[3:46:51] people for the right at

[3:46:51] the right location for

[3:46:55] the right amount of trash in

[3:46:56] general if for some reason it

[3:47:00] wasn't giving the detective

[3:47:01] rate we would look for we would

[3:47:01] look for if there's other

[3:47:04] equipment, other vendors and

[3:47:04] then we could also test.

[3:47:05] Okay.

[3:47:05] Well looking forward to

[3:47:09] bringing that seeing that item

[3:47:10] come to full council and making

[3:47:11] sure we get this to work.

[3:47:11] Thank you.

[3:47:13] Councilmember.

[3:47:14] All right.

[3:47:15] Thank you, Councilmember Campo.

[3:47:16] I don't see anybody else in

[3:47:18] the lights.

[3:47:19] I'll add my thanks.

[3:47:19] You know a good reminder that

[3:47:22] everything you're doing you

[3:47:28] started from scratch and and a

[3:47:32] fabulous job and you know, a

[3:47:33] lot of bumps along the way.

[3:47:34] But you navigated those and

[3:47:37] righted the ship and really

[3:47:38] delivered for us.

[3:47:38] A couple of questions kind of

[3:47:42] inspired by my colleagues that

[3:47:43] I wasn't really going to ask.

[3:47:46] So in the f y 26 budget we

[3:47:47] allocated money for this

[3:47:47] financial assistance.

[3:47:51] It sounds like we did not burn

[3:47:51] through that.

[3:47:52] Did we roll that over So we

[3:47:56] actually have more money in f y

[3:47:59] 27 or do we still have the 3

[3:47:59] million?

[3:48:00] Yes.

[3:48:00] So the for the contract

[3:48:03] administration we simply

[3:48:04] wouldn't spend that for

[3:48:05] the amount that was allocated

[3:48:09] for the assistance itself.

[3:48:09] We still have that and we're

[3:48:12] going through the nearly 4000

[3:48:13] applications and depending on

[3:48:13] whether there's how many of

[3:48:17] those are fully approved,

[3:48:18] the remaining funding would

[3:48:18] first go to those.

[3:48:22] It would then roll over and

[3:48:22] then when we review

[3:48:23] the applications for next year

[3:48:26] we'd have it available.

[3:48:27] If funding is not used then at

[3:48:28] that point it would be

[3:48:28] available to return to

[3:48:31] the general fund.

[3:48:31] Okay.

[3:48:35] In terms of expectations,

[3:48:35] the 2300 that were approved

[3:48:36] that would be a credit towards

[3:48:40] the f y 26 cost that would show

[3:48:43] up in their f y 27 bill.

[3:48:44] So no thank you.

[3:48:47] Thank you for the question

[3:48:48] Councilmember So for those that

[3:48:51] have applied for fiscal year 26

[3:48:52] because they've already

[3:48:53] received their bill and in most

[3:48:56] cases already paid it

[3:48:56] the assistance for this year is

[3:48:57] in the form of a rebate so they

[3:48:58] will receive or have already

[3:49:01] received in some cases either a

[3:49:02] check or direct deposit for

[3:49:02] next year.

[3:49:06] The plan is to primarily do

[3:49:06] the proactive credit on the tax

[3:49:07] bill.

[3:49:07] Okay.

[3:49:11] And then the remainder of

[3:49:11] the 4000 And once they get

[3:49:15] finally approved I get there in

[3:49:16] process.

[3:49:16] Will they also get a rebate

[3:49:17] That will be a rebate as well?

[3:49:17] Yes.

[3:49:18] Okay.

[3:49:20] All right.

[3:49:21] Again, standing up a first time

[3:49:25] effort So really doing a very,

[3:49:25] very good job.

[3:49:26] I appreciate Councilmember

[3:49:29] Moreno's perspective given her

[3:49:30] knowledge of her constituents

[3:49:31] about how to connect with them.

[3:49:34] I think that's the biggest

[3:49:34] challenge we have is how to

[3:49:35] connect with people who don't

[3:49:39] know our programs available And

[3:49:39] this is something that can be

[3:49:44] pretty available to them.

[3:49:45] There was a comment I want make

[3:49:46] sure people realize t genie

[3:49:49] does not run the care program

[3:49:50] or they run the care program.

[3:49:53] It is not Genie's money it is

[3:49:54] ratepayers money that Genie

[3:49:58] manages on behalf of a

[3:49:59] statewide public purpose

[3:50:03] program No shade on Genie but I

[3:50:03] didn't want anybody to get

[3:50:04] confused after yesterday's

[3:50:08] conversation And I appreciate

[3:50:08] the conversation too about

[3:50:12] the fund balance and keeping an

[3:50:13] eye and managing on that.

[3:50:14] But at the risk of

[3:50:17] relitigating, I think about 70

[3:50:18] or 80 million that was being

[3:50:19] taken out of the general fund

[3:50:23] to run esd that no longer is

[3:50:27] part of the conversation and

[3:50:28] and I know there are still some

[3:50:28] folks that believe that private

[3:50:31] haulers charge less than

[3:50:32] the city And I think I know

[3:50:33] personally that that is not

[3:50:33] true.

[3:50:36] We heard a lot of stories about

[3:50:37] how much people pay for private

[3:50:41] waste collection that goes

[3:50:41] above and beyond what the city

[3:50:42] is actually charging.

[3:50:45] Nevertheless, we should be

[3:50:46] sensitive to what constituents

[3:50:50] have to pay going forward.

[3:50:51] So with that again, thank you

[3:50:51] for the very good work.

[3:50:55] Thank you for these regular

[3:50:56] updates about the program and

[3:50:56] keeping us informed.

[3:51:00] It's I think very helpful to us

[3:51:01] and to the public.

[3:51:01] So again this was an

[3:51:04] information item and no motion

[3:51:05] is required.

[3:51:06] So with that Deputy clerk

[3:51:10] please reintroduce item 333 and

[3:51:11] proceed with the tabulated

[3:51:15] protests.

[3:51:15] Item three through three is a

[3:51:16] collection of solid waste

[3:51:19] management fees on the county

[3:51:20] tax roll.

[3:51:24] There's information provided by

[3:51:25] the Environmental Services

[3:51:28] Department 112,516 protest

[3:51:29] would represent 50% plus one of

[3:51:32] parcel subject to the proposed

[3:51:33] solid waste management fees.

[3:51:35] The city clerk's office

[3:51:36] received three protests against

[3:51:37] adoption of the written report

[3:51:41] identifying affected parcels

[3:51:41] and the solid waste management

[3:51:42] fees to be charged to each

[3:51:45] affected Parcel parcel on

[3:51:50] the 2026 2027 County Tax Bill

[3:51:51] without reviewing or

[3:51:51] authenticating any protests and

[3:51:55] assuming that they are all

[3:51:56] valid and from affected

[3:51:56] property owners.

[3:51:57] We can clearly say that

[3:52:00] the number of protests lodged

[3:52:01] with the city clerk's office is

[3:52:03] clearly below the threshold of

[3:52:04] 50% plus one.

[3:52:05] This concludes my report.

[3:52:05] All right.

[3:52:09] Thank you, Deputy Clerk.

[3:52:09] Again, the public hearing

[3:52:10] portion was closed.

[3:52:13] We will now take up council

[3:52:14] members questions and comments

[3:52:14] and entertain a motion and we

[3:52:19] will start with Councilmember

[3:52:19] Rivera.

[3:52:20] Thank you.

[3:52:20] Health resident I'll move

[3:52:23] the recommendation here.

[3:52:24] All right.

[3:52:25] And not see anybody else in

[3:52:28] lights.

[3:52:33] I'll go ahead and second that

[3:52:34] I'll leave it at that not see

[3:52:34] anybody else.

[3:52:35] So we have a motion by council

[3:52:38] member Eli Rivera and a second

[3:52:38] by myself to move the staff

[3:52:42] recommendation on item 333.

[3:52:47] Clerk Please call the roll.

[3:52:48] I have started the voting

[3:52:48] system.

[3:52:52] Please cast your vote and I

[3:52:52] will need a verbal votes from

[3:52:53] Councilmember Campbell and

[3:52:56] Council member Whitburn Please

[3:52:56] .

[3:52:57] Yes yes.

[3:53:06] Thank you.

[3:53:11] That item passes.

[3:53:19] Um 622 with District five

[3:53:19] absent.

[3:53:24] >> All right With that Deputy

[3:53:27] clerk please introduce item

[3:53:32] s505 items 505 is the fiscal

[3:53:34] year 2027 Appropriation

[3:53:53] ordinance.

[3:53:54] All right.

[3:53:58] As you settle yourself in,

[3:53:59] please introduce yourselves for

[3:53:59] the record and let us know how

[3:54:00] much time you need for your

[3:54:03] presentation.

[3:54:04] >> Good afternoon.

[3:54:04] Council PRESIDENT LaCava and

[3:54:08] council members.

[3:54:09] I'm Ben Battaglia, Director of

[3:54:09] Finance.

[3:54:10] With me today is Amber

[3:54:13] Gutierrez, financial operations

[3:54:13] manager.

[3:54:14] Today we'll be presenting

[3:54:17] the fiscal year 2027

[3:54:18] appropriation ordinance and

[3:54:19] we'll need about five minutes

[3:54:19] please.

[3:54:19] >> All right.

[3:54:22] When you're ready.

[3:54:25] The city council approved

[3:54:26] the fiscal year 2027 budget on

[3:54:26] JUNE 9th and the mayor signed

[3:54:30] the budget resolution on JUNE

[3:54:31] 11th.

[3:54:31] The adoption of

[3:54:32] the appropriation ordinance is

[3:54:36] the final step in the fiscal

[3:54:37] year 2027 budget process as

[3:54:41] outlined in Charter section 69.

[3:54:42] The aoa appropriates the budget

[3:54:42] based on the two controlling

[3:54:46] documents The salary ordinance

[3:54:47] which sets the compensation for

[3:54:51] city employees and the budget

[3:54:51] resolution And this

[3:54:52] incorporates the mayor's draft

[3:54:56] budget as modified by the MAY

[3:54:57] revision and the City Council's

[3:55:00] additional modifications.

[3:55:01] The purpose of the eo is to

[3:55:02] define the legal level at which

[3:55:05] the Mayor and the cfo are

[3:55:06] authorized to control

[3:55:06] operational and capital project

[3:55:10] expenditures.

[3:55:10] Additionally it facilitates

[3:55:13] administration of the city's

[3:55:17] $6.4 million for $6.4 billion

[3:55:18] budget by providing certain

[3:55:18] delegations of authority to

[3:55:22] the Chief financial officer.

[3:55:23] And this is mostly for routine

[3:55:24] non policy items.

[3:55:26] Charter Section 69 requires

[3:55:27] that the City Council adopt

[3:55:28] the aoe by JUNE 30th each each

[3:55:33] year.

[3:55:34] This year there are three

[3:55:34] requested modifications to

[3:55:35] the act.

[3:55:38] The first is modifying section

[3:55:41] 2g2 and adding a new section

[3:55:42] 2g4 and this authorizes the cfo

[3:55:47] to reallocate unobligated cdbg

[3:55:47] balances to previously council

[3:55:52] approved nonprofit facility

[3:55:52] improvement projects to support

[3:55:57] timely project completion.

[3:55:57] This authority is to reallocate

[3:55:58] funds for completed canceled or

[3:56:02] ineligible cdbg projects to

[3:56:03] eligible nonprofit facility

[3:56:07] projects in line with

[3:56:08] consolidated plan objectives

[3:56:08] and will assist the city in

[3:56:11] meeting federal timeliness

[3:56:12] requirements.

[3:56:12] Since this item was presented

[3:56:16] to the budget and government

[3:56:17] Efficiency Committee last week

[3:56:17] we worked closely with

[3:56:18] the Office of the aba to revise

[3:56:22] the language to clarify

[3:56:22] the intent of this section

[3:56:27] including that authority to

[3:56:28] appropriate balances on future

[3:56:28] activities not previously

[3:56:32] approved in the annual Action

[3:56:32] Plan or are subject to Council

[3:56:36] authorization and all uses of

[3:56:37] this added authority will be

[3:56:37] included in the consolidated

[3:56:41] annual performance and

[3:56:41] Evaluation Report each year.

[3:56:46] The second update authorizes

[3:56:46] the cfo to accept appropriate

[3:56:47] and expend grants that are

[3:56:51] awarded to the office of

[3:56:51] the City Clerk.

[3:56:52] The new section improves

[3:56:52] administrative efficiency for

[3:56:55] the city clerk's grant funded

[3:56:56] projects and it expands

[3:56:57] the city's ability to leverage

[3:57:03] external funding sources.

[3:57:03] And the third update removes

[3:57:07] section 2b8 and this removes

[3:57:07] the automated refuse container

[3:57:08] fund from the Special Revenue

[3:57:11] Fund section with

[3:57:12] the establishment of the Solid

[3:57:12] Waste Management Fund.

[3:57:15] This fund will be fully

[3:57:16] exhausted and closed in fiscal

[3:57:17] year 2026 and therefore this

[3:57:20] section is no longer required.

[3:57:21] And finally there are minor

[3:57:22] language updates throughout

[3:57:25] the document including updating

[3:57:26] the fiscal year and

[3:57:30] the recitals.

[3:57:31] >> Included with this item are

[3:57:32] the fiscal year 2027 operating

[3:57:35] and capital appropriations

[3:57:35] along with the annual change

[3:57:36] letter as well as a signed

[3:57:39] budget resolution.

[3:57:40] Staff's recommendation is to

[3:57:41] approve the fiscal year 27

[3:57:44] Appropriation ordinance which

[3:57:45] will codify the adopted budget

[3:57:45] into law.

[3:57:46] That concludes our presentation

[3:57:47] and we're available for any

[3:57:49] questions.

[3:57:50] >> All right.

[3:57:51] Thank you for the work and

[3:57:51] thank you for the presentation.

[3:57:54] Deputy Clerk Please proceed

[3:57:55] with public comment.

[3:57:55] >> Thank you.

[3:57:59] We will begin with in-person

[3:58:00] public comment.

[3:58:03] Max Schmitt please come forward

[3:58:16] if you will have two minutes on

[3:58:17] finalizing this ordinance and

[3:58:21] finalizing the fiscal year 27

[3:58:26] tax limit is a big deal and I

[3:58:27] just wanted to say that I'm

[3:58:31] opposed to all city tax.

[3:58:32] >> One of the things I saw in

[3:58:36] there was a recycling

[3:58:40] enterprise fund and I don't

[3:58:41] think that money should be

[3:58:46] taken from the people for

[3:58:46] the climate agenda hoax that's

[3:58:51] being pressed and I just wanted

[3:58:55] to say that San Diego in their

[3:58:56] general fund has about $2

[3:58:57] billion that they get from

[3:59:05] property sales on cannabis tax

[3:59:06] And if that $2 billion they

[3:59:10] provide fire and police safety

[3:59:10] ,they operate the parks.

[3:59:11] They operate the libraries.

[3:59:14] And I just want to give a first

[3:59:14] hand testimony of why I'm

[3:59:19] opposed to San Diego Getting

[3:59:20] taxes from a homeless person

[3:59:20] who uses the libraries, uses

[3:59:26] the parks.

[3:59:27] And I just wanted to say that

[3:59:27] I've been harassed by police

[3:59:31] officers who believe it or not

[3:59:32] this is going to sound crazy

[3:59:36] but have actually exposed me to

[3:59:41] squad cars teleporting on in

[3:59:42] conjunction my private thoughts

[3:59:45] and then literally said to me

[3:59:46] police officers tried to scare

[3:59:47] me saying you're getting

[3:59:51] teleport traffic which was

[3:59:51] the stupidest thing in

[3:59:52] the world where freemason

[3:59:56] luciferian is like I said

[3:59:56] the police exposed me to

[3:59:57] teleporting and then said

[4:00:01] You're going to teleport

[4:00:02] traffic is stupid And then at

[4:00:02] the library on which taxes go

[4:00:05] to support the library I get

[4:00:05] surrounded by librarians

[4:00:06] speaking gibberish trying to

[4:00:10] make me go insane and then at

[4:00:11] the parks the same thing

[4:00:15] happens Park employees will

[4:00:16] speak gibberish to make me go

[4:00:16] insane and then the transit of

[4:00:21] the transit police will also

[4:00:21] try to make me go insane.

[4:00:22] >> So I don't think San Diego

[4:00:23] should begin any.

[4:00:23] Thank you for your comments.

[4:00:24] That does conclude your time.

[4:00:25] Our next speaker is allegedly

[4:00:34] Andrea sent not funny to

[4:00:35] anybody else.

[4:00:39] The only three people protested

[4:00:39] .

[4:00:40] Does that sound like good

[4:00:40] numbers?

[4:00:40] Right.

[4:00:41] Good outreach.

[4:00:44] I mean, Anyway, uh, that's just

[4:00:45] so sad because these people are

[4:00:48] going to have a rude awakening

[4:00:49] .

[4:00:49] Who knows?

[4:00:50] Just the things change or that

[4:00:51] I mean, sure, it gets less

[4:00:53] whatever.

[4:00:54] Yes, This is interesting, Sean.

[4:00:58] Be creative with less Right?

[4:00:58] I mean, don't you guys think

[4:00:59] that you could do that?

[4:01:00] I think that should be an

[4:01:03] ordinance that you guys create.

[4:01:03] You know, I mean because

[4:01:04] the mayor it's like absolute

[4:01:07] power corrupts obviously.

[4:01:08] And then a couple of you guys

[4:01:12] want to be mayor so it'll be

[4:01:13] interesting to see how that

[4:01:13] plays out.

[4:01:14] But wouldn't it be good if

[4:01:16] there was an ordinance for real

[4:01:17] when we have to do with

[4:01:18] the budget that it's like let's

[4:01:21] see how much we can cut back

[4:01:22] your funds and see how much you

[4:01:27] can do with less and I mean I'm

[4:01:27] telling you you guys get

[4:01:28] creative, right?

[4:01:32] Sean Don't you guys feel like

[4:01:32] you could do a lot more with

[4:01:33] less money?

[4:01:33] I do.

[4:01:36] I feel like you guys would be

[4:01:37] very good and you could do like

[4:01:41] a competition where you see who

[4:01:42] you know comes up with the best

[4:01:42] ideas.

[4:01:46] I'm telling you I mean people

[4:01:46] have to do it out in

[4:01:47] the public.

[4:01:50] You could even have a citizen

[4:01:51] board of people that would come

[4:01:55] in and be like This is what we

[4:01:56] could do with less and we'll

[4:02:00] get more with it Telling you

[4:02:01] people like on their budget

[4:02:01] just to go to the grocery store

[4:02:02] it's like I mean you can't buy

[4:02:06] organic but you sure make sure

[4:02:07] I mean I remember being a kid

[4:02:09] and I was like I could live off

[4:02:10] of 20 bucks for a week and I

[4:02:10] did it.

[4:02:13] I mean it's possible So I feel

[4:02:14] like we should be really good

[4:02:14] stewards of the people's money

[4:02:19] and seeing what we can do

[4:02:19] again.

[4:02:20] You guys are going to have to

[4:02:20] take cuts.

[4:02:22] You're not going to be able to

[4:02:23] ,you know, wear those fancy

[4:02:24] suits and ride your electric

[4:02:24] bikes.

[4:02:28] But at least the people won't

[4:02:29] be suffering as much, right?

[4:02:29] Because you're not going to

[4:02:32] take as much from us.

[4:02:33] It'll be good.

[4:02:34] I think that that should be

[4:02:34] something you guys work on

[4:02:37] lickety Split and I know you

[4:02:37] well.

[4:02:38] Thank you That include your

[4:02:38] time.

[4:02:51] Next speaker is Anthony Ralphs

[4:02:51] .

[4:02:52] Good afternoon City council.

[4:02:53] Just want to let you know can

[4:02:53] Lee I didn't forget about you.

[4:02:56] I got you these flowers as

[4:02:56] well.

[4:02:57] This is a sign a gesture of

[4:03:01] appreciation for the change of

[4:03:01] position on flock.

[4:03:05] It means a lot to us residents

[4:03:06] in San Diego that you're taking

[4:03:06] our privacy concerns seriously.

[4:03:10] And I know that it was within

[4:03:11] the context of a budget crisis

[4:03:11] that we're still in.

[4:03:12] And I know that you explained

[4:03:15] that given the circumstances,

[4:03:16] if we could afford everything

[4:03:20] you would still prefer to have

[4:03:21] this type of technology in

[4:03:21] place.

[4:03:25] And while that position is

[4:03:25] hopefully one that you'll

[4:03:26] reconsider when you reevaluate

[4:03:29] when you look into all of

[4:03:30] the harm that Floc has been

[4:03:34] causing throughout the city,

[4:03:35] hopefully that can weigh in on

[4:03:36] your mindset moving forward.

[4:03:39] Hopefully it's not just

[4:03:39] something that's solely

[4:03:43] predicated upon the fiscal

[4:03:44] situation that we find

[4:03:44] ourselves in which is only

[4:03:45] going to get worse until we

[4:03:48] address the root systemic

[4:03:49] issues of this problem which is

[4:03:53] a totally unaccountable police

[4:03:54] force and a city council or

[4:03:55] only half of a city council

[4:03:58] that's willing to address that

[4:03:59] problem.

[4:03:59] The other half I'm concerned

[4:04:00] about because they're not

[4:04:04] making eye contact with me and

[4:04:04] I'm addressing them and it

[4:04:05] looks like they're on their

[4:04:07] phones right now as I'm

[4:04:08] speaking to them And it's

[4:04:09] disrespectful And there's a

[4:04:14] number of council members that

[4:04:14] aren't even here right now

[4:04:15] including Marni von Wilpert.

[4:04:18] And I know that this is

[4:04:19] something that's frustrated you

[4:04:19] LaCava as well.

[4:04:20] You've mentioned it multiple

[4:04:23] times It's it's disrespect for

[4:04:24] the people of San Diego to

[4:04:24] the constituents.

[4:04:28] You know y'all are being paid

[4:04:29] well and we spend a lot of our

[4:04:30] time and a lot of our money to

[4:04:33] come out here and to have these

[4:04:33] two minutes to be able to

[4:04:34] address you and the least that

[4:04:38] y'all can do is look at us and

[4:04:38] make eye contact with us.

[4:04:42] MISS Campbell MR. Whitburn, as

[4:04:43] we're addressing you directly

[4:04:47] thank you.

[4:04:48] Thank you.

[4:04:48] That does conclude in-person

[4:04:51] public comment.

[4:04:52] We will now turn to virtual

[4:04:52] public comment.

[4:04:55] I've started the five minute

[4:04:56] timer in the committee room and

[4:05:00] there are currently there is

[4:05:01] currently one participant

[4:05:01] requesting to speak.

[4:05:06] So we will go to caller with

[4:05:08] the last four digits 8700

[4:05:13] please begin.

[4:05:14] Thank you.

[4:05:15] First off point for just a few

[4:05:18] seconds.

[4:05:19] Thank you, PRESIDENT Lacob for

[4:05:23] giving me the clarity on

[4:05:28] the sdb sdg Any item that we

[4:05:29] really appreciated.

[4:05:32] And then Councilmember Marino.

[4:05:33] Five stars for that

[4:05:37] storytelling.

[4:05:38] Does everybody notice the power

[4:05:39] of storytelling?

[4:05:43] That was an example on me

[4:05:47] picking up the trash story That

[4:05:47] was five stars.

[4:05:48] Okay.

[4:05:52] So on the item itself please

[4:05:57] let's work on open

[4:05:58] communication and collaboration

[4:06:02] between all branches of

[4:06:02] government.

[4:06:03] Okay.

[4:06:03] I think this is a very, very

[4:06:08] important it's kind of a dicey

[4:06:09] I have an item to me for some

[4:06:13] reason but I want that kind of

[4:06:13] improvement.

[4:06:14] The public really deserves

[4:06:14] that.

[4:06:17] Now on the update with the item

[4:06:23] involving c, d, b, g a little

[4:06:23] concern on the project, this

[4:06:24] goes way back with me when I

[4:06:27] used to really put time in on

[4:06:31] that some of the projects fail

[4:06:32] and I can't remember if

[4:06:33] the training was inappropriate

[4:06:36] or the application was

[4:06:36] inappropriate.

[4:06:37] But let's make sure that we're

[4:06:42] handling all those projects for

[4:06:42] those wonderful people that

[4:06:43] want to do them And I think a

[4:06:44] lot of them are low income

[4:06:48] people having a dream come

[4:06:48] true.

[4:06:53] So I don't know exactly how I'm

[4:06:53] saying that in the right way

[4:06:54] but if I'm helping I hope so.

[4:06:55] And then one thing I hope you

[4:06:58] have time to read This is

[4:06:58] the Department of Finance.

[4:06:59] The whole thing is a quote As

[4:07:02] the city continues to address

[4:07:03] the structural budget deficit,

[4:07:03] the importance of maintaining

[4:07:08] cash reserves to strengthen

[4:07:08] the city's fiscal position and

[4:07:13] effectively manage potential

[4:07:18] future economic downturns has

[4:07:18] never been more critical.

[4:07:21] Thank you for your time.

[4:07:21] Thank you.

[4:07:27] Thank you.

[4:07:27] >> That concludes public

[4:07:28] testimony and item 5 or 5.

[4:07:28] All right.

[4:07:29] Thank you, Deputy Clerk.

[4:07:33] Will now turn over to council

[4:07:33] members for questions, Comments

[4:07:34] Entertain a motion and we'll

[4:07:35] start with the chair of

[4:07:38] the Budget Committee.

[4:07:38] Council member Foster.

[4:07:39] Yes, Thank you.

[4:07:43] Council PRESIDENT And Rolando

[4:07:44] I'm sorry Thank you for

[4:07:45] the presentation and thank you

[4:07:49] for addressing the cdbg item.

[4:07:49] You know our discussion in

[4:07:55] committee.

[4:07:55] So with that I will move

[4:07:56] staff's recommendation.

[4:07:56] All right.

[4:07:57] Thank you Council member.

[4:07:58] So we have a motion by

[4:08:00] Councilmember Foster to move

[4:08:01] the recommendation.

[4:08:02] We'll go next to Councilmember

[4:08:02] Campo.

[4:08:03] Thank you Council PRESIDENT

[4:08:03] Thank you to our Department of

[4:08:07] Finance and our city attorney's

[4:08:08] office for the good work on

[4:08:08] this.

[4:08:09] >> I'll second All right.

[4:08:09] We have a motion by

[4:08:10] Councilmember Foster or second

[4:08:11] by Councilmember Champion to

[4:08:11] move the staff recommendation

[4:08:14] And I'll just quickly add my

[4:08:15] thanks for the good work.

[4:08:16] I know there's a lot that goes

[4:08:16] into this And responding to

[4:08:20] Councilmember Foster's concern

[4:08:25] the cbd are a tricky thing and

[4:08:25] you all do a great job of

[4:08:26] navigating the challenges

[4:08:32] associated with that So with

[4:08:33] that again we have a motion by

[4:08:34] Councilmember Foster, a second

[4:08:34] by Councilmember Campo.

[4:08:36] Deputy Clerk Call the roll

[4:08:37] after the voting system please

[4:08:37] cast your vote and they'll need

[4:08:38] a verbal vote from

[4:08:42] Councilmember Campbell and

[4:08:43] Councilmember William Campbell.

[4:08:43] Yes.

[4:08:44] Yes.

[4:08:58] Thank you.

[4:08:59] That item passes unanimously

[4:09:03] with Council District five

[4:09:03] absent.

[4:09:04] Yeah.

[4:09:08] So that's 818 yeses and one

[4:09:08] absent, correct?

[4:09:14] Yes we'll get it today Anyway

[4:09:17] with that Deputy clerk please

[4:09:27] introduce item 332 item 332 is

[4:09:28] the fiscal year 2027 tax

[4:09:28] appropriations when it began

[4:09:33] when it And with that staff

[4:09:34] please introduce yourself again

[4:09:35] for this item and let us know

[4:09:39] what time you need.

[4:09:39] >> Good afternoon Council

[4:09:40] PRESIDENT Lacob and Council

[4:09:40] Members.

[4:09:41] I'm Ben Battaglia, director of

[4:09:44] Finance and with me is Amber

[4:09:45] Gutierrez, financial operations

[4:09:45] manager.

[4:09:46] We're here today to present

[4:09:49] the fiscal year 2027 tax

[4:09:50] appropriations limit also known

[4:09:51] as the gambling And we'll need

[4:09:51] about four minutes.

[4:09:51] All right.

[4:09:54] When you're ready.

[4:10:01] In NOVEMBER of 1979, California

[4:10:01] voters approved Proposition

[4:10:02] four, also known as the gan

[4:10:02] initiative.

[4:10:03] This legislation requires a

[4:10:07] governing body of each local

[4:10:07] jurisdiction in California to

[4:10:08] establish a tax appropriations

[4:10:13] limit and this is a restriction

[4:10:13] on the amount of tax revenue

[4:10:14] that can be appropriated in any

[4:10:18] fiscal year.

[4:10:19] Local jurisdictions can choose

[4:10:20] among four adjustment factors

[4:10:21] which includes measures of

[4:10:25] inflation and population growth

[4:10:26] to complete the final

[4:10:26] adjustment factor.

[4:10:30] The measures for inflation or

[4:10:31] price factors include growth in

[4:10:32] California per capita income or

[4:10:37] growth in the city's gross

[4:10:38] assessed valuation due to new

[4:10:39] nonresidential construction

[4:10:42] which measure which measures

[4:10:43] While measures for population

[4:10:44] growth include population

[4:10:48] growth within the county or

[4:10:49] the city, revenue subject to

[4:10:50] the limit consist of tax

[4:10:54] proceeds and state subventions

[4:10:54] .

[4:10:55] Tax proceeds include property

[4:10:56] tax, sales tax, transient

[4:11:01] occupancy tax and other local

[4:11:01] taxes.

[4:11:02] As a result, not all city

[4:11:03] revenues are included in this

[4:11:07] calculation The tax

[4:11:07] appropriations limit must be

[4:11:11] established on or before JUNE

[4:11:12] 30th each fiscal year for

[4:11:12] the following fiscal year.

[4:11:16] The fiscal year 27 can limit

[4:11:17] calculation verifies that

[4:11:17] appropriations are below

[4:11:21] the limit in accordance with

[4:11:22] Proposition 111 guidelines.

[4:11:28] The fiscal year 2027 tax

[4:11:28] appropriations limit was

[4:11:29] calculated by adjusting

[4:11:29] the prior year's tax

[4:11:34] appropriations limit using one

[4:11:34] of four annual adjustment

[4:11:39] factors the recommended fiscal

[4:11:40] year 27 adjustment factor uses

[4:11:40] the percentage change in

[4:11:41] assessed valuation in new

[4:11:45] nonresidential construction and

[4:11:46] the population factor based on

[4:11:46] the percent growth in

[4:11:51] the city's population.

[4:11:51] And this results in an

[4:11:56] adjustment factor of 1.1168 or

[4:11:56] 11.68%.

[4:11:57] The adjustment factor is then

[4:12:01] applied to the previous year's

[4:12:02] appropriations limit of 6.29

[4:12:06] billion resulting in a fiscal

[4:12:06] year 27 tax appropriations

[4:12:07] limit of 7.03 billion.

[4:12:12] And again this is an 11.68%

[4:12:16] increase over the fiscal year

[4:12:17] 26 tax appropriations limit.

[4:12:18] I will note the fiscal year 26

[4:12:22] tax appropriations limit was

[4:12:27] revised from 6.24 billion to

[4:12:28] 6.29 billion following receipt

[4:12:28] of a revised report from

[4:12:29] the county which made a

[4:12:30] correction to the city's

[4:12:33] assessed valuation of

[4:12:34] nonresidential construction

[4:12:34] from the prior year.

[4:12:35] And this revision has no impact

[4:12:39] on the city's compliance with

[4:12:40] the tax appropriations limit.

[4:12:44] The fiscal year 27 tax

[4:12:45] appropriations limit is

[4:12:45] calculated to be 7.03 billion a

[4:12:50] total adjusted appropriations

[4:12:51] subject to this limit for

[4:12:55] fiscal year 27 is 1.71 billion.

[4:12:56] As a result, the fiscal year 27

[4:12:56] tax appropriations are

[4:13:01] projected to be below the limit

[4:13:01] by 5.32 billion.

[4:13:02] Staff's recommendation is to

[4:13:02] approve the resolution to

[4:13:07] establish a tax appropriations

[4:13:07] limit of 7.03 billion for

[4:13:08] fiscal year 27.

[4:13:13] That concludes our presentation

[4:13:14] and we're happy to answer any

[4:13:15] questions you MAY have.

[4:13:15] >> All right.

[4:13:16] Thank you for the presentation

[4:13:16] and the work.

[4:13:17] I'll now turn it over to

[4:13:20] the office of the ipa for

[4:13:20] comments.

[4:13:20] Great.

[4:13:21] Thank you Council PRESIDENT,

[4:13:22] council members and thank you

[4:13:22] again for the presentation.

[4:13:25] So this is really a routine

[4:13:26] item that we take up every year

[4:13:26] but it is worth taking a moment

[4:13:27] to talk about what the gambling

[4:13:31] bit tells us about the city's

[4:13:31] overall level of resources.

[4:13:32] As you heard, the gang limit

[4:13:35] was established by 1979 a

[4:13:36] statewide measure that was

[4:13:36] implemented in 1980 and it set

[4:13:37] a cap on the total amount of

[4:13:41] tax revenue that the state as

[4:13:42] well as any local government in

[4:13:42] the state can appropriate.

[4:13:43] And it tied that cap to actual

[4:13:47] tax appropriations in 1979.

[4:13:48] Again, as you heard, the limit

[4:13:48] can be adjusted each year by

[4:13:53] using several factors growth

[4:13:53] and income growth

[4:13:54] nonresidential assessed value

[4:13:55] growth from the population of

[4:13:55] the city of the county.

[4:13:59] And this was done to recognize

[4:13:59] that inflation exists in

[4:14:00] the city's growth but still

[4:14:01] with the underlying intention

[4:14:06] of holding tax revenue near or

[4:14:06] below those 1979 levels.

[4:14:07] The adjustment to the gan limit

[4:14:11] that you just heard would bring

[4:14:12] the city's limit to just over

[4:14:12] $7 billion.

[4:14:13] Our actual tax revenue that is

[4:14:17] subject to the gambling it for

[4:14:18] the upcoming fiscal year is

[4:14:19] estimated at $1.7 billion.

[4:14:23] This tells us something about

[4:14:24] our resources and this will be

[4:14:24] inexact because the city's

[4:14:29] economy does not precisely

[4:14:30] track the four adjustment

[4:14:30] factors in the city generally

[4:14:31] uses the largest possible

[4:14:32] factor One of three calculates

[4:14:32] the limit.

[4:14:35] But it's a very rough

[4:14:36] shorthand.

[4:14:36] The $5.3 billion difference

[4:14:41] between our actual tax revenues

[4:14:41] and the updated gambling It

[4:14:42] illustrate that if the city's

[4:14:46] tax revenues simply kept pace

[4:14:47] since 1980 with growth in

[4:14:47] income, property values and

[4:14:50] population, the city would be

[4:14:51] collecting roughly four times

[4:14:51] the tax revenue that it does

[4:14:52] today.

[4:14:55] And this gap is one of the real

[4:14:56] reasons that the investments

[4:14:57] the city made in its operations

[4:15:00] and the infrastructure 45 years

[4:15:00] ago were in many cases

[4:15:01] significantly larger than

[4:15:02] the investments that it can

[4:15:02] make now.

[4:15:06] Now the constraints on

[4:15:06] the city's resources are not

[4:15:07] caused by the gambling.

[4:15:08] They're instead the result of

[4:15:08] how the city raises money and

[4:15:11] what voters are willing to

[4:15:12] approve.

[4:15:12] But this annual item is a

[4:15:13] useful reminder of the gap

[4:15:14] between what the city once

[4:15:19] invested in itself and what it

[4:15:19] can afford to invest it today.

[4:15:20] And this should also complicate

[4:15:23] any notion that the city's

[4:15:24] current budget issues are

[4:15:24] simply the result of

[4:15:25] overspending instead of

[4:15:30] the larger part of that story

[4:15:30] is that tax revenues have not

[4:15:31] kept pace with growth of

[4:15:32] the city or with the cost of

[4:15:36] demands for programs and

[4:15:36] infrastructure in the city.

[4:15:37] We've just moved past

[4:15:38] the adoption of a difficult

[4:15:42] budget but it is worth keeping

[4:15:43] this gap in mind as we go

[4:15:43] through the rest of the year

[4:15:44] and continue to have

[4:15:45] discussions about the programs

[4:15:48] and policies that this Council

[4:15:49] would like to pursue.

[4:15:49] Thank you.

[4:15:50] Council PRESIDENT.

[4:15:50] All right.

[4:15:51] Thank you, Charles.

[4:15:51] Always appreciate your

[4:15:53] perspective.

[4:15:54] And with that Deputy clerk,

[4:15:55] please proceed with public

[4:15:55] comment.

[4:15:55] Thank you.

[4:16:00] Council PRESIDENT We will begin

[4:16:01] with in-person public comment.

[4:16:02] Next minute please come

[4:16:02] forward.

[4:16:03] You'll have two minutes to

[4:16:09] speak on.

[4:16:15] I just want to say I was at

[4:16:16] City Hall when they had

[4:16:20] the fiscal year 2027 budget

[4:16:20] finalized and it was a big

[4:16:21] crowded day at city hall And

[4:16:26] then now we have these final

[4:16:26] two ordinances finalizing it

[4:16:26] again.

[4:16:31] And then I just want to say

[4:16:32] that it's very interesting to

[4:16:33] me that after the it's

[4:16:38] finalized and we have the tax

[4:16:38] revenue is stated at $1.7

[4:16:39] billion.

[4:16:44] It's very item three three to

[4:16:45] the limit is very interesting

[4:16:45] to me.

[4:16:49] And the reason why is because

[4:16:50] it's on just this kind of

[4:17:00] random number of $7 billion and

[4:17:01] on there $5 billion underneath

[4:17:01] underneath that.

[4:17:02] And I just want to say it's

[4:17:07] just kind of interesting to

[4:17:07] have this information item

[4:17:08] right after everything is

[4:17:09] finalized to say oh by the way,

[4:17:13] there's a limit to how much

[4:17:13] revenue we can make and it's 7

[4:17:17] billion when when the revenue

[4:17:17] is only 1.7 billion.

[4:17:18] And the reason it's interesting

[4:17:22] to me is the Chinese communist

[4:17:23] Party has something called ten

[4:17:24] year and 20 year plans laid out

[4:17:29] And to me it almost reminds me

[4:17:29] of something that the Chinese

[4:17:30] Chinese Communist Party would

[4:17:34] do as a ten year plan and

[4:17:35] the gang limit presentation

[4:17:39] even said that on revenues that

[4:17:40] the revenues are not keeping up

[4:17:40] with city growth and they want

[4:17:45] revenues to be higher.

[4:17:45] And I just can't imagine

[4:17:46] the financial hardship

[4:17:47] the people of San Diego would

[4:17:51] have if if the gang limit was

[4:17:52] reached this year and we

[4:17:56] actually had $7 billion in

[4:18:03] revenue all taxed on it just it

[4:18:03] just almost seems like a very

[4:18:04] interesting thing to have this

[4:18:08] random gang limit after

[4:18:09] the budget finalized Almost

[4:18:15] seems like a a plan of sorts to

[4:18:15] try to increase thinking that

[4:18:16] does conclude your time

[4:18:26] allegedly order the surely is

[4:18:27] interesting never really

[4:18:31] understood it before you get

[4:18:32] really good education come into

[4:18:33] meetings like this That's why

[4:18:37] people should pay attention.

[4:18:38] But it's interesting that you

[4:18:38] set the limit of like how much

[4:18:44] you guys can spend.

[4:18:45] Like what if your children were

[4:18:45] like I'm going to tell you how

[4:18:46] much you can spend on me and

[4:18:47] it's like a billion bucks and

[4:18:50] you better spend it And if you

[4:18:50] don't you better give me that

[4:18:51] money back, you know, because

[4:18:52] you guys it's like obviously

[4:18:56] you're going to come in below

[4:18:56] that but it makes it look good

[4:18:57] that like we're coming in below

[4:19:01] our limit And it's just

[4:19:02] interesting to see the way

[4:19:02] the government works how it's

[4:19:03] like you know, you set your

[4:19:08] policies and like you want to

[4:19:09] keep people in compliance with

[4:19:13] your policies but doesn't

[4:19:14] really matter if they break

[4:19:14] the law.

[4:19:15] It's like you can break the law

[4:19:16] but just follow the policy and

[4:19:19] like we'll do all this nonsense

[4:19:20] to pretend like we're holding

[4:19:20] people accountable.

[4:19:24] It's just you know But when

[4:19:25] you're setting your own limits

[4:19:26] I mean like you're going to set

[4:19:26] it to a place where you're

[4:19:27] going to exceed it.

[4:19:30] I mean obviously you would not

[4:19:30] be stupid.

[4:19:31] I mean but it's also sad to

[4:19:36] see, you know, people come in

[4:19:37] and give you guys, you know,

[4:19:43] accolades and appreciation for

[4:19:44] votes and you know, I'm used to

[4:19:44] you guys not looking.

[4:19:45] It's like it's fine.

[4:19:49] I mean enjoy do appreciate even

[4:19:50] though half the time your faces

[4:19:51] are kind of funny because but

[4:19:52] you're you're you're you're not

[4:19:55] on your phone you know you're

[4:19:56] you're sometimes I feel like

[4:19:57] you're in la la land It's okay

[4:19:57] but you're you're you know

[4:20:01] listening which you can get

[4:20:02] into that mode But it's like I

[4:20:03] mean if you guys treated your

[4:20:07] or if your staff treated you

[4:20:07] this way if your staff while

[4:20:08] you were talking to them was

[4:20:09] looking down on their phone you

[4:20:12] would fire them immediately.

[4:20:13] You wouldn't put up with it.

[4:20:14] But yet people we pay your

[4:20:19] paycheck and you guys can't

[4:20:19] even give people the courtesy

[4:20:20] of even saying thank you for

[4:20:24] something like that.

[4:20:25] I mean he didn't have to do

[4:20:26] that.

[4:20:26] He spent his own money doing it

[4:20:27] And just the fact that you guys

[4:20:30] don't even acknowledge it just

[4:20:31] shows you that doesn't work

[4:20:36] with your time.

[4:20:37] I have started the five minute

[4:20:38] timer in the committee room.

[4:20:38] We'll now turn to virtual

[4:20:42] the virtual queue which there

[4:20:43] are currently just one

[4:20:43] participant requesting to

[4:20:44] speak.

[4:20:48] So we will begin with caller

[4:20:49] with the last four digits 8700

[4:20:54] please begin.

[4:20:59] Thank you.

[4:21:00] Excuse me a deputy city Clerk

[4:21:00] Two minutes.

[4:21:01] Yes, two minutes.

[4:21:06] Thank you Joy.

[4:21:11] Assuming I've never spoken on

[4:21:12] this item and I wasn't going to

[4:21:17] speak So this is off the top of

[4:21:18] my head and in what MAY be

[4:21:22] pressed or nine is our idea or

[4:21:28] great idea.

[4:21:28] Monica Monica speaking And you

[4:21:34] spoke beautifully.

[4:21:35] I want to add to it because we

[4:21:40] have a structural budget

[4:21:41] deficit and it does involve

[4:21:46] overspending and it's out of

[4:21:47] balance and it's replicating

[4:21:48] itself for 20 or more years And

[4:21:53] we're like a journal stuck on a

[4:21:54] wheel going round and round and

[4:21:54] round and round again And I'm

[4:21:58] looking forward to speaking

[4:21:59] with all of you maybe tomorrow

[4:22:04] if I get energy about the time

[4:22:05] of reckoning which has to do

[4:22:06] with the people who didn't vote

[4:22:10] on the sales tax measures,

[4:22:11] the recent one and we need to

[4:22:15] listen to them because they're

[4:22:16] telling us we're not spending

[4:22:21] our money correctly.

[4:22:22] We are overspending.

[4:22:22] I know what's more complicated

[4:22:28] than that And I just thank you

[4:22:29] ,Monica.

[4:22:29] That was beautifully said But I

[4:22:34] think we need to tweak it a

[4:22:35] little bit And I'm really

[4:22:36] there's a great article from

[4:22:36] the u-t on It's got the word

[4:22:40] reckoning in it for our city

[4:22:40] and the people are saying no to

[4:22:46] our things So I'm going to

[4:22:46] really try to work on that for

[4:22:47] tomorrow.

[4:22:48] Anyway, thank you for listening

[4:22:52] Always a great day.

[4:22:53] We have one more love to all.

[4:22:54] Thank you.

[4:22:58] That concludes public testimony

[4:22:59] on item 332.

[4:22:59] >> All right.

[4:23:00] Thank you, Deputy Clerk.

[4:23:00] With that we'll turn over to

[4:23:05] the council members for

[4:23:05] questions.

[4:23:06] Comments Entertain a motion and

[4:23:07] we'll start with council member

[4:23:07] You Thank you.

[4:23:11] Council PRESIDENT I think you

[4:23:12] members of the public for their

[4:23:13] participation this item of

[4:23:13] approval of such

[4:23:14] recommendation.

[4:23:16] >> All right.

[4:23:17] We have a motion by Council

[4:23:17] member Campo.

[4:23:18] We'll go next to Council Member

[4:23:21] Foster a second by Council

[4:23:21] member foster So we do have a

[4:23:26] motion by Council kennedy a

[4:23:27] second by Council member Foster

[4:23:27] I don't think I throw in that

[4:23:28] the element please correct me

[4:23:29] if I'm wrong was actually a

[4:23:32] voter approved So we're just

[4:23:33] following the voter approved

[4:23:33] measure.

[4:23:33] That's correct.

[4:23:37] It's probably like 218 There's

[4:23:38] a lot of reasons to be a little

[4:23:38] frustrated by it But until

[4:23:39] there's a new vote and

[4:23:43] repositioning that legislation

[4:23:44] with that we just have to

[4:23:45] follow that.

[4:23:45] >> So all right.

[4:23:50] We have a motion by Council

[4:23:50] member Kennedy on a second by

[4:23:51] Council member Foster.

[4:23:52] I think as you've seen we have

[4:23:52] a little glitch in the voting

[4:23:55] system of the tally system.

[4:23:56] So all in favor say aye.

[4:23:56] All right.

[4:24:05] And he opposed and was that of

[4:24:06] no council member.

[4:24:10] You know what I pay attention

[4:24:10] to the audience So that passes

[4:24:16] 8 to 0 with District five

[4:24:16] absent Deputy Clerk please

[4:24:21] introduce item 331 Thank you

[4:24:21] Council PRESIDENT Item 331 is

[4:24:26] the fiscal year 2027 tax rate

[4:24:27] ordinance for the maintenance

[4:24:27] of zoological exhibits.

[4:24:32] This item is not subject to

[4:24:32] the mayor's.

[4:24:32] Yeah.

[4:24:33] All right.

[4:24:33] Thank you for that.

[4:24:34] So we have the same staff but

[4:24:35] please introduce yourself for

[4:24:38] this item and let us know how

[4:24:39] much time you need.

[4:24:39] >> Good afternoon.

[4:24:40] Council PRESIDENT Joe Lacob and

[4:24:44] council members.

[4:24:45] I'm a financial operations

[4:24:46] manager with the Department of

[4:24:46] Finance and with me is that

[4:24:50] battalion director of Finance.

[4:24:51] We are here to present

[4:24:52] the fiscal year 2027 tax rate

[4:24:52] ordinance.

[4:24:56] We about three minutes.

[4:24:56] All right when you're ready.

[4:24:57] The tax rate ordinance

[4:25:01] establishes a tax levy for

[4:25:02] the maintenance of the logical

[4:25:03] exhibits in accordance with

[4:25:03] section 75 of the city charter

[4:25:08] which requires the adoption of

[4:25:08] an annual tax levy by

[4:25:09] ordinance.

[4:25:09] Approval of this ordinance also

[4:25:13] ensures compliance with

[4:25:14] the filing requirements and

[4:25:15] deadline established by

[4:25:15] the County Auditor and

[4:25:16] Comptroller which mandates

[4:25:21] submission no later than

[4:25:21] the last day of AUGUST of each

[4:25:22] year.

[4:25:22] This levy was originally

[4:25:25] approved in 1934 when San Diego

[4:25:26] voters approved Section 77 of

[4:25:31] the city charter to levy an

[4:25:31] annual property tax of $0.02

[4:25:32] per $100 of assessed value to

[4:25:37] be used exclusively for

[4:25:37] the maintenance of zoological

[4:25:38] exhibits in Double Park in

[4:25:43] 1981, the California Revenue

[4:25:44] and Taxation Code's definition

[4:25:44] of the assessed valuation on

[4:25:45] which property taxes are levied

[4:25:49] was changed from 25% of

[4:25:49] the property's value to 100% of

[4:25:50] the property's value In order

[4:25:55] to translate Charter Section 77

[4:25:56] a's tax rates to the new

[4:26:00] definition a conversion factor

[4:26:01] of one fourth was applied to

[4:26:01] logical exhibits tax rate

[4:26:05] changing the levy from $0.02

[4:26:06] per $100 of assessed value to

[4:26:09] half a cent per $100 of

[4:26:09] assessed value.

[4:26:10] Since then the tax rate has

[4:26:15] remained unchanged for fiscal

[4:26:15] year 2027 with the Logical

[4:26:16] Exhibits Maintenance Fund is

[4:26:20] budgeted at approximately 22.8

[4:26:20] million for revenues and

[4:26:21] expenditures and it's based on

[4:26:26] the calculation of a half a

[4:26:27] cent per every $100 of assessed

[4:26:27] value.

[4:26:28] This amount is an estimate

[4:26:31] based on the city's fiscal year

[4:26:32] 2027 property tax budget.

[4:26:33] Each year the city transfers

[4:26:37] transfers the actual property

[4:26:37] tax revenues collected by

[4:26:42] the county for this purpose be

[4:26:43] 22.8 million represents only a

[4:26:43] portion of the total costs of

[4:26:44] maintenance The logical

[4:26:45] exhibits the remaining costs

[4:26:48] are funded through new

[4:26:49] operations and support from

[4:26:50] members, donors and guests.

[4:26:50] Staff's recommendation is to

[4:26:54] approve the fiscal year 2027

[4:26:55] tax rate ordinance levying a

[4:26:58] property tax of half a cent per

[4:26:58] $100 of assessed value to be

[4:26:59] used exclusively for

[4:26:59] the maintenance of zoological

[4:27:03] exhibits in double Park in

[4:27:03] compliance with Charter Section

[4:27:04] 75 and the County Auditor and

[4:27:09] Comptroller's requirements.

[4:27:10] That concludes our presentation

[4:27:11] that we're available for Any

[4:27:11] questions.

[4:27:11] All right.

[4:27:12] Thank you for the work and

[4:27:15] thank you for the presentation

[4:27:15] .

[4:27:16] Deputy Clerk Please proceed

[4:27:16] with public comment.

[4:27:21] Thank you Counsel PRESIDENT Max

[4:27:21] Schmidt We'll begin with

[4:27:22] in-person comment.

[4:27:22] Max Schmidt please come

[4:27:23] forward.

[4:27:24] You'll have two minutes to

[4:27:35] speak on increasing the tax to

[4:27:40] $0.05 for every $100 of the $22

[4:27:41] million in maintenance revenue

[4:27:45] on seems unnecessary.

[4:27:51] And I just wanted to say that

[4:27:51] earning taxes off of San

[4:27:57] Diego's amazing zoo also seems

[4:28:02] unnecessary I think with on

[4:28:07] the $2 billion in taxes that

[4:28:08] San Diego San Diego has to

[4:28:09] spend on maybe they could try

[4:28:13] to make the zoo more affordable

[4:28:14] or even free.

[4:28:19] I know St Louis, Missouri has a

[4:28:19] free zoo and it's very popular

[4:28:24] and I just wanted to also say

[4:28:25] that I've mentioned this a lot

[4:28:29] already but I'm against

[4:28:30] the city of San Diego getting

[4:28:34] any tax dollars from the people

[4:28:35] whether it's through the zoo's

[4:28:40] maintenance fee or whether it's

[4:28:40] through property or sales tax.

[4:28:44] And the reason why is because

[4:28:49] there is serious criminal and

[4:28:49] illegal activity that falls

[4:28:54] under city sponsored and state

[4:28:55] sponsored.

[4:28:59] And what that is is people

[4:29:00] being paid tax dollars like

[4:29:01] staff at homeless shelter

[4:29:04] police officer transit

[4:29:05] authority on the trolley on

[4:29:09] whoever is running the trolley

[4:29:13] intercom are actually harassing

[4:29:14] Catholics And what they do is

[4:29:19] this They speak constant,

[4:29:20] bizarre, strange half

[4:29:24] gibberish, half I'm reading

[4:29:25] your mind I know it sounds

[4:29:26] crazy where they're telepathic

[4:29:26] from doing hermetic chants

[4:29:29] The Masonic Lodge and people

[4:29:30] who are getting paid tax

[4:29:34] dollars are actually trying to

[4:29:34] drive Catholics either to

[4:29:35] suicide or drug addiction And

[4:29:39] there's a genocide happening.

[4:29:39] Thank you.

[4:29:40] That does conclude your time

[4:29:49] Allegedly order Poor Vivienne

[4:29:50] got thrown under the bus.

[4:29:50] Why?

[4:29:51] Why not call out Jennifer?

[4:29:54] You didn't think it was her?

[4:29:54] >> Yeah, this is interesting.

[4:29:59] That's I mean a half a cent and

[4:30:00] you get $22 million almost 23 I

[4:30:04] feel like that should give us a

[4:30:05] free pass to go to the zoo when

[4:30:09] they're getting that much money

[4:30:10] from the people in is this

[4:30:11] county leaders is just in

[4:30:14] the city is this just city

[4:30:14] property Yeah that's

[4:30:15] interesting That's a lot of

[4:30:18] money and those people still

[4:30:19] have to pay to go to the zoo.

[4:30:20] And I'm wondering because it's

[4:30:23] like nobody really keeps up

[4:30:24] with their maintenance.

[4:30:24] How do we know that this is

[4:30:27] going towards their maintenance

[4:30:28] really?

[4:30:28] I mean do we know that Is there

[4:30:29] any kind of checks and balances

[4:30:33] to be sure we just give it to

[4:30:34] them and say it's out of our

[4:30:36] hands?

[4:30:36] Right.

[4:30:41] So how it works I guess so.

[4:30:42] I mean that's that's the way it

[4:30:42] seems.

[4:30:46] That's the way the government

[4:30:46] works.

[4:30:46] We contract with you.

[4:30:47] We did our part.

[4:30:50] We followed the policy.

[4:30:51] We created a bike lane.

[4:30:51] Yeah.

[4:30:55] It cost like $13 million and it

[4:30:55] goes to no or but we did what

[4:30:56] we were supposed to do.

[4:30:59] So again it's like until people

[4:31:00] are going to like go to the zoo

[4:31:03] for free I mean $22 million and

[4:31:04] plus we're like holding animals

[4:31:04] in captivity.

[4:31:08] I always hated that as a kid

[4:31:09] like go in and watching these

[4:31:12] animals I mean they say they

[4:31:13] save them but it's like is it

[4:31:14] really I mean because like out

[4:31:18] in their own habitat they don't

[4:31:18] really do those things But it's

[4:31:22] like, you know, wild horses,

[4:31:22] mustangs.

[4:31:23] I had a couple of those ones So

[4:31:27] sad They're like 50 bucks You

[4:31:27] can't even like sell them for

[4:31:28] that much because they're wild

[4:31:31] horses anyway.

[4:31:32] Yeah.

[4:31:32] So I just like to see kind of

[4:31:36] some kind of uh you know, uh

[4:31:36] audit to make sure that this

[4:31:37] money is going towards

[4:31:40] maintenance and how much more

[4:31:41] they're like requiring from

[4:31:41] the people.

[4:31:45] I'd also like to request an

[4:31:46] audit on flock so if we could

[4:31:50] do that as well that would be

[4:31:50] good.

[4:31:51] Thank you.

[4:31:51] That does conclude your time.

[4:31:52] Our next speaker is Anthony

[4:32:04] Ralphs.

[4:32:05] I think I'm in favor of this

[4:32:09] tax but I'm not entirely sure.

[4:32:13] Um, I.

[4:32:14] I don't know if the zoo is a

[4:32:18] private corporation and if

[4:32:19] they're getting public subsidy.

[4:32:24] If so, then it probably I don't

[4:32:25] know if this tax is justified.

[4:32:26] They do bring in a lot of

[4:32:29] people.

[4:32:30] They are like a world famous

[4:32:30] and the world famous San Diego

[4:32:31] Zoo.

[4:32:31] Right.

[4:32:33] So I guess there's a there

[4:32:37] could be a justification for it

[4:32:38] But the not knowing that

[4:32:39] distinction makes it difficult

[4:32:43] to formulate a fully educated

[4:32:43] opinion.

[4:32:46] So I think I'm in favor of it

[4:32:52] Anyway, thanks.

[4:32:52] Thank you.

[4:32:53] That does conclude in-person

[4:32:56] public comment.

[4:32:57] I I've started the five minute

[4:32:58] timer and the committee room

[4:33:01] and we will now turn to

[4:33:02] the virtual queue where there

[4:33:04] is one speaker requesting to

[4:33:05] speak.

[4:33:05] Hector please begin your

[4:33:09] comments.

[4:33:14] Having grown up here I've been

[4:33:15] to the zoo a lot of times as a

[4:33:15] kid.

[4:33:18] I think we should sunset this

[4:33:19] thing and not pay him anything

[4:33:24] because originally did that to

[4:33:25] get the zoo running up and

[4:33:28] running so the Sand City could

[4:33:29] with the zoo when it first

[4:33:29] started to get everything going

[4:33:33] But now the zoo is in great

[4:33:33] hands.

[4:33:34] There's a lot of entrepreneurs

[4:33:38] there, a lot of people donate.

[4:33:39] It's top of the line and we

[4:33:42] should almost charge them $20

[4:33:43] million like rent or something

[4:33:47] because they're the you know,

[4:33:48] they have all sorts of things

[4:33:52] going on and we don't need to

[4:33:52] subsidize them.

[4:33:53] Not that we got to be mad him

[4:33:57] or nothing but just we got 20

[4:33:57] million we can spend on so many

[4:34:01] other things and they should we

[4:34:02] could charge him maybe a

[4:34:06] million bucks rent because I

[4:34:06] think we own the property but

[4:34:07] it's probably it's it's own

[4:34:11] corporation or how it works and

[4:34:12] the zoo works but all the big

[4:34:16] time guys in the zoo, they know

[4:34:16] what's going on And this is

[4:34:20] just an extra this is almost

[4:34:20] mayonnaise on the sandwich.

[4:34:21] You know if you take out

[4:34:25] the mayonnaise it would still

[4:34:25] be a good sandwich.

[4:34:26] You know they're not hurting

[4:34:30] for money but they're getting

[4:34:31] the parking revenue now So who

[4:34:34] knows what's going to happen.

[4:34:35] But anyway, we should move to

[4:34:39] sunset this politically it

[4:34:40] might be a no no for you guys

[4:34:41] but we'll spend the money down

[4:34:44] in Barrio Logan man setting up

[4:34:45] a lot of stuff down there.

[4:34:49] Parks Dumber and you give

[4:34:50] the money to you know, all

[4:34:54] sorts of different things we

[4:34:55] could do and it would make a

[4:34:58] positive impact in a lot of

[4:34:58] different places.

[4:35:03] Thanks for your time.

[4:35:03] Thank you.

[4:35:04] We have the next speaker is a

[4:35:08] caller with the last four

[4:35:08] digits 8700.

[4:35:12] Please begin your comments.

[4:35:19] Thank you Joyce and your to

[4:35:21] Councilmember Foster the third

[4:35:22] Would you listen up on this

[4:35:29] item please?

[4:35:30] We have a world class zoo.

[4:35:30] There's no doubt about it.

[4:35:35] And in on another item this

[4:35:35] year last year we realized in

[4:35:39] real life that we just had we

[4:35:40] were told and we knew how great

[4:35:43] they are and how they improved

[4:35:44] and the executives and

[4:35:48] everything and then great And

[4:35:49] you know so out of the five

[4:35:54] stars which I think is the best

[4:35:54] sometimes I give a plus more

[4:35:55] But out of the five stars they

[4:35:59] only get four from me And

[4:35:59] the reason for that is there's

[4:36:03] a question mark on the Fifth

[4:36:04] Star and that is how they treat

[4:36:08] their employees And I don't

[4:36:13] know excuse me if I stumble on

[4:36:14] this with the eeoc and

[4:36:17] the workforce reports I Googled

[4:36:18] back away a year or two ago I

[4:36:22] Googled how they treat their

[4:36:22] employees and I got awful

[4:36:26] negativity stuff and I just

[4:36:31] it's it frightened me.

[4:36:36] It just shocked me.

[4:36:37] So I just would like to shine a

[4:36:37] light there.

[4:36:41] Councilmember Foster the third

[4:36:45] and make sure that I can that

[4:36:46] I'm wrong that it's just fake

[4:36:50] fake news on Google And so I

[4:36:51] just had to get that off my

[4:36:55] chest.

[4:36:56] I wasn't going to speak on this

[4:36:56] item.

[4:36:57] I was sort of waiting for MR.

[4:37:00] Stump to speak.

[4:37:01] So I feel better that I put

[4:37:05] that out there.

[4:37:06] I hope it's wrong But if there

[4:37:06] me if these people these

[4:37:09] employees are doing

[4:37:10] the maintenance, we've got to

[4:37:14] treat them five stars So please

[4:37:15] check on that and it's been a

[4:37:20] great day and thank you so much

[4:37:21] for listening up to all Thank

[4:37:24] you.

[4:37:25] That concludes public testimony

[4:37:25] on item 331.

[4:37:25] All right.

[4:37:29] Thank you, Deputy Clerk.

[4:37:30] With that will turn over to

[4:37:30] council members for questions,

[4:37:31] Comments Entertain a motion and

[4:37:34] we'll start with Council member

[4:37:34] Whitburn.

[4:37:35] Thank you.

[4:37:35] Council PRESIDENT 92 years ago

[4:37:39] Sandiego residents voted to

[4:37:40] enact this property tax to help

[4:37:40] maintain the exhibits at

[4:37:40] the zoo.

[4:37:44] Whatever voters pass a property

[4:37:45] tax for a specific purpose

[4:37:46] the funds have to be used for

[4:37:49] that purpose and only that

[4:37:49] purpose.

[4:37:50] In this case the funds must be

[4:37:54] used for the exhibits at

[4:37:54] the zoo.

[4:37:58] San Diego Zoo is a point of

[4:37:58] pride for our city.

[4:37:59] It's the reason many tourists

[4:38:03] visit our city.

[4:38:03] A lot of the people who work at

[4:38:07] the zoo have worked there for

[4:38:08] decades and speak very highly

[4:38:08] of their experience.

[4:38:11] Many of them are represented by

[4:38:12] the Teamsters Union.

[4:38:13] I very much appreciate

[4:38:17] the zoo's long standing

[4:38:17] partnership with the city and

[4:38:18] I'm happy to move the staff

[4:38:18] recommendation.

[4:38:19] All right.

[4:38:23] We have a motion by council

[4:38:23] member Whitburn.

[4:38:24] Well let's go to Councilmember

[4:38:24] Camp.

[4:38:26] You happy to Second Council

[4:38:26] PRESIDENT Oh right.

[4:38:30] >> Well quick on the on that I

[4:38:31] don't see anybody else on

[4:38:36] the lights And so we're going

[4:38:37] to do a voice vote again We

[4:38:37] have a motion by COUNCILMAN

[4:38:38] Whitburn, the second by Council

[4:38:41] member Campo to move the staff

[4:38:42] recommendation In favor say aye

[4:38:45] Aye Any nays that passes eight

[4:38:49] zero with District five absent.

[4:38:49] That brings us to the end of

[4:38:53] our agenda.

[4:38:54] We will now adjourn Council to

[4:38:54] the next regularly scheduled

[4:38:58] council meeting on Monday JUNE

[4:38:59] 29th, 2026 at 10 A.M. And I am

[4:39:00] confident we will be back in

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