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>> good evening. I'd like to call tonight's
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meeting of the san mateo planning commission to order.
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[pledge of allegiance].
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>> can we have rollcall, please.
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>> commissioner romaro.
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>> present.
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>> commissioner ellen mallory?
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>> present.
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>> chair, diane whitaker.
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>> here.
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>> thank you.
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on the consent calendar for this evening we
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have two sets of minutes. The first one is the march
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12th 2019 planning commission meeting, and then the
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second one is the march 26th 2019 planning commission
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meeting which that one we will be holding over to our
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next meeting on april 23rd but do I have any additions
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or corrections to the march 12th minutes? Nope? Okay.
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could I have a motion, please?
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>> I motion that we approve the minutes of
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the march planning commission meeting.
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>> a second?
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>> second.
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>> thank you. All those in favor say aye.
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>> aye.
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>> minutes are approved three zero.
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the next item is the public comment period,
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and this is the opportunity for anyone in the audience
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to address the commission on an item not on tonight's
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agenda. Do we have any speaker slips for the public
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comment period? The general? Nope. Okay.
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is there anyone in the audience who would
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like to address the commission on an item not on
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tonight's agenda? Seeing none we'll close the public
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comment period and move on to our study session tonight.
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this is a study session. There will be no
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vote, but we will be taking input and start with staff
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presentation.
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>> yes thank you, chair.
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so as you mentioned this meeting does serve
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dual purposes for this project tonight. This is the for
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the underground flow equalization system that is part of
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the clean water program that the council has adopted.
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so first of all tonight, the staff will be
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making a presentation regarding both the project and the
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draft eir that's now out for review. Following that
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presentation we will first take questions and comments
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on the project itself. And then following that we will
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take a look at the draft eir intake, and take comments
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from both the commission and the public on the draft
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eir.
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again, there is no decisionmaking tonight.
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this will come back to the planning commission and the
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council at a later time with a site plan review, special
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use permit and a site plan review application.
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the deadline for eir comments if you do not
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make comments on this tonight, you have until may 7th to
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provide written comments, and we'll take them by e-mail,
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and we also have in the lobby on the table at the entry
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there are some cards made up especially for taking
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comments on the draft eir. So we invite you to
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participate in that. And at this time I will turn this
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over to derrick for the presentation.
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>> thank you, richard.
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once again, my name is derrick and I'm the
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engineering manager with public works helping to assist
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with the clean water program. My presentation tonight, I
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will be presenting as well as tom williams our senior
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engineer, but this is our agenda. I'm going to be giving
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an overview of the clean water program, and tom will
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provide some updates specifically about the project,
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which is the underground flow equalization system and
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talk about the sequel process overview and discuss all
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the resource areas addressed in the draft environmental
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impact report and, as richard indicated, go through the
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planning commission to answer any questions related to
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the project of the presentation and lastly, receive
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formal comments on this document.
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so this is the why slide. Why are we here
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today, and why is the clean water program even here?
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whenever there is weather flows the sewer system gets
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inundated, and the capacity gets overwhelmed and the
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sewer overflows occur.
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on the image to the left there all those
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blue dots are either historical sso locations, active
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sso locations or model sso locations, and as a result of
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overflows they spew out of manholes. And this is
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essentially raw sewage, and it spills out on to the
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streets, into the gutters and into the creeks and
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affects our beaches.
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essentially, our san francisco bay and along
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every step of that sewer overflow all those components
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get contaminated. It's gotten to the point where we've
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had to close our beaches and also has gotten to the
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point where the regional quality control board has
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issued permits mandating the elimination and prevention
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of sanitary sewer overflows in our collection system and
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waste water treatment facility.
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because of both of those regulatory drivers
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the clean water program was established to replace the
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agent infrastructure and built a wet weather sewer
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system capacity to prevent these sewer overflows to meet
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current and future regulatory requirements and to align
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with the city of san mateo. And in 2016 the city council
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adopted and certified the environmental impact report,
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and at that same time the city council selected the in
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system storage approach which really culminates where we
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are today and the suggestion of the treatment system
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strategy and this component.
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the clean water program, it has multiple
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projects within it. This is a map of all the pipeline
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projects, and the dots indicate all the pump station
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improvements, and in the upper right where that yellow
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blotch is is the waste water treatment plant.
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multifaceted approach for this clean water
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program is to construct an underground equal flow
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project, and why is the underground project needed? It
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will minimize the cease and desist order to prevent
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sewer overflows and provide system capacity and
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performance and improve safety and reliability of the
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system and relieves discharge of sewage in the bay. And
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because of this selected program approach we don't have
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to build a treatment plant much larger than what it is
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currently being designed for. The fact that we are
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holding capacity upstream in the system with this
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project allows the size of the treatment plan to be much
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smaller.
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the imagery to the left here is at the
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intersection of saratoga and delaware and happens almost
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annually and has been mitigated through our field and
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maintenance crews helping to prevent that and through
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some flow management with our system right now and along
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with improvements in our sewage system that we're
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undertaking.
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now, the impact report also identified 55
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sites for this facility, for this underground flow
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equalization facility, and these next slides take you
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through the history of how it was selected to be where
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it is today. 55 sites were in the impact report and from
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there it got shortlisted from 55 down to 12 down to six
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down to two to one and the green boxes on the right were
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the areas where we started reaching out to the public
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after we did the environmental along with the technical
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criteria selection and shortlisted it down to six and
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from six all the way to one there were 31 meetings with
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various stakeholders including the city council, various
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commissions, various community meetings and neighborhood
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associations some of which are here today. And I
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recognize people from all these meetings that are
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actually here in the audience today.
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august of 2016 is when we revealed the first
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six or at that time five locations, and then in january
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of 2017 it got shortlisted to the corp yard and event
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center. And at that point we did another alternatives
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analysis that looked at the economic, technical
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consideration and did a matrix to help provide
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information to the city council to make their decision
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on selecting the event center.
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and tom williams here is now going to talk
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about the project.
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>> good evening. Tom williams senior
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engineer with the public works clean water program.
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>> excuse me, can we have the microphone
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turned on, please.
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>> okay. Thank you. Tom williams senior
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engineer with the public works clean water program.
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so, this structure it's in the corner of the
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event center and it's underground. It's about five
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million gallons, 150 to about 200 feet. The way it
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operates is mostly it sits dormant and in dry weather
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other than for maintenance purposes it would just sit
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dormant.
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in a rain event when the sewer has become
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overwhelmed the water begins to divert into the storage
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system, and that's part of a complex operation. It's not
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just the only thing that manages the overflows, but it's
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a key element. So the flow flows into the system, and it
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stays there about 24 hours, and then pumps pump it back
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into the system when the treatment can handle the flow,
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and it flows by gravity into the treatment plant. It has
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continuous odor control, and it also cleans itself
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automatically. When the flow subsides it has an
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automatic flush system that flushes it, and then it will
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get an inspection, and if it needs any additional
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cleaning then it will be done at that time.
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and then it goes back to normal, and it goes
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back to being dormant. It's mostly going to handle with
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wet weather flow that's combines storm water and sewage,
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but sometimes it may hold sewage when it's being used
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for maintenance purposes. We may need to hold some flow
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pump stations worked on or pumps diverted from a force
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main.
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when it's finished, all you'll really see on
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the surface is like the picture on the upper left.
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there will be an airtight hatch, an access hatch to the
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controls and pumps, and it will be flush with the
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surface of the ground, and there will be an electrical
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building, 600 square feet that will have a cnu block
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surface similar to the lower right picture and other
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than that, there will be a couple of events maybe and
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that's all you'll see.
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and then to go with that, there will be some
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pot construction. There will be two 36 diversion pumps
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built in saratoga and delaware, and they will be a part
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of diversion system that diverts flow to this.
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>> thank you, tom. I'd actually like to go
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back a few slides to the layout real quick just to
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provide some context for this. The underground structure
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is on the east corner just as tom indicated, and there
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is the underground structure, the diversion sewer pump
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lines and force mains and the continuous odor structure
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and the pipelines -- excuse me -- pipelines run along
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delaware as well as saratoga and feed into the
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underground structure.
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to the north across saratoga there is a
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sound wall and a channel that separates saratoga from
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the fiesta gardens neighborhood, and to the south
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there's the bay meadows mark and the bay meadows
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neighborhood and to the south there's the train tracks
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and to the southwest there's nova school as well.
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so the other component we are here for
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tonight is the draft environmental impact report, and
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the contents are summarized here. We have the executive
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summary, the summary of the impacts and mitigation
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measures and introduction which includes the background
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objectives for the project and the description
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components, such as the underground structure, the
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pipes, electrical building, etcetera, and of course,
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maintenance construction aspects of this project.
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there is a significant section on the
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environmental resource areas addressed and of course,
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alternatives as well. In terms of the environmental
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resource addressed in the environmental impact report
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this is all of them here. Out of all these, these can
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all be avoided through mitigation measures all with the
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exception of noise and vibration during construction.
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these next few slides are going to really
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highlight some of the comments and concerns that we've
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heard through the public since introducing this project
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in 2016, and also through the comments that we've
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received during the common period so far. One of the
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main concerns is odor control, as tom indicated. We will
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have air tight vaults, which is shown again there in the
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top left.
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the carbon odor scrubbers, which is the
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image to the top right and this is all underground and
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all going to be in the vault. Under the surface is what
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the two images on the bottom will really show.
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these will be covered after we construct the
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facility. You will essentially see what the current use
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is now, which is parking for the event center, and you
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will see the air tight vaults as well, but under the
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parking surface is the flushing curbs, the self-cleaning
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tipping buckets and part of the self cleaning mechanisms
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is to help mitigate odors. Once the facility is used the
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buckets tip, clean the facility, and reduce any odors
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that may linger there.
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in terms of the material being used it is
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highly efficient technology used throughout the
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industry, and these are carbon odor scrubbers, and they
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absorb large massive odors. And three grams of this
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stuff has a surface of a football field, and any odorous
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components stick to it and going back one slide, you can
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see that odor scrubber, that big tank there on the upper
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right, and instead of just three grams we're filling
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that whole thing up. It's going to be a lot of football
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fields that are going to be extracting that odor.
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in terms of construction, we understand that
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construction noise is an issue. These are images to help
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demonstrate what to expect during construction. In the
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bottom left there after excavating, walls will be up
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there and most of the excavation and construction for
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concrete pouring and rebar instillation, etcetera, will
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be drawn in that hole so the shoring walls and the fact
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that it's down in there will be a noise mitigation
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measure all in itself as opposed to constructing much
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taller sound walls. The elevation at which this
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construction will be occurring once it's excavated will
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help to mitigate some of that noise.
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the image to the top left shows almost a
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finished structure, and the image to the top right is
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sort of the finished product of this project. And this
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project is up in the seattle area and to the south here,
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hopefully I can show it here, where I'm highlighting now
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this is actually a daycare or preschool center and all
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these residential homes. So this has been built in
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similar types of scenarios to what we're trying to build
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here in san mateo.
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this image here is of a local bay area
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construction. This is in pacifica, and they are
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constructing a flow equalization system as well. And
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they have been in construction as you can see in the
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back there.
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there is a noise barrier along with a
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residential home, and so this is being built under their
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community center parking lot. After it's done they are
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going to re pave it, and it's going to be used all over
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again as a parking lot.
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another concern that has echoed through all
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the meetings that we've had is traffic impacts, and we
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are aware of them. We will be implementing a management
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plan and just to provide some background there are
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vehicle types that we're considering here, heavy trucks
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or other construction trucks, worker vehicles and in
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terms of construction it's going to be similar to
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construction in bay meadows and also at the hillsdale
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mall. And the management plan will be implemented, and
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some of the key components that have been listed out in
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the report to help mitigate to avoid peak traffic hours
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and coordinate with emergency responders.
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this image was also in the environmental
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impact report. The blue or light blue colored lines are
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the current city truck access routes, and these are the
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major arterials and major collectors within the city
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designated for construction traffic and truck routes.
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and the orange lines are the proposed access truck
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routes from the project site to those truck routes so
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primarily traveling to and from saratoga to either
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delaware or towards the freeway on the south.
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and in terms of geology the design team
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completed geotechnical investigations, and we're
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currently monitoring the area to establish base
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groundwater levels. And the intent is to mitigate
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measures to prevent settlement, and we have a plan to
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provide monitoring to make sure measures are taken and
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design criteria for the project itself.
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this slide is to illustrate the ceqa process
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and the permit process and also to identify the public
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input opportunities. In october of this past year we had
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a scoping period, which is shown there on the far left
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box. After that scoping period we received comments and
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prepared the draft environmental impact report and we
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released the report. And we are here tonight to receive
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more commentary, comments on the report, so that we can
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implement any measures into the report.
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in late summer after all the comments have
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been implemented and the eir has been revised we plan on
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releasing it. We will come back to the planning
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commission to get a recommendation or to request a
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recommendation on the eir certification and permit, and
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after that in october we plan on going to city council
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for the same two actions.
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these blue asterisks are for public input,
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and it started back in the scoping input and we're here
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tonight and there will be planning and city council
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opportunities again.
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so to echo what richard said in the
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beginning we're going to first take any questions
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related specifically to the project or presentation
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through and from the planning commission, and then
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secondarily or mainly the main goal for tonight is to
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obtain comments on the draft environmental impact
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report. And those could be submitted through verbal
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comments tonight. We have comment cards in the lobby as
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well as up front here where you could rip off a portion
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of the comment card and insert it into the drop box out
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front or you could share it with ryan up here. There's
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also the opportunity to e-mail or mail the comments in.
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thank you.
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>> thank you.
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does the commission have any questions of
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the staff presentation? No? No. Okay.
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I'm just going to start, and if it doesn't
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flow I'm really sorry.
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I was reading in the packet about potential
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contamination in the soil that will be brought up during
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excavation, and I wondered what type of contamination we
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were talking about?
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>> so again, I would just emphasize tonight
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we're taking comments, we'll respond to those in the
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finals. If there's a quick answer we'll give it.
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otherwise, we'll respond to those comments in the final.
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>> so I can go through and ask them one
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right after the other?
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>> sure and the consultant of the eir is
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here tonight, and we'll be preparing the final documents
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and questions raised tonight.
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>> I wonder what the agricultural district
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meant, if that particular area of land was considered
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agricultural because of the event center or what used to
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be there?
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>> the event center partial is zoned as
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agricultural mainly due to its history of being a
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racetrack.
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>> I wanted clarification of when the
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project would be starting. There were several parts of
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the packet that said 2019, and there were several parts
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in the packet that said 2020. So I just wanted to know
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what the plan was on that, and I wanted to know a
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definition of dewatering. I assume that relates to when
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you start digging down below sea level that there's
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leeching of water and how that -- am I correct in that
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assumption and then it's how it's pumped out?
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>> yes. Essentially dewatering is when we
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get below the groundwater table during excavation. This
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facility will go down as deep as 50 feet, and we will be
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running into groundwater levels and part of it to secure
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the site as to dewater it so we can construct the
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facility.
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>> where does it go?
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>> it will get pumped and essentially taken
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for treatment elsewhere.
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>> okay. So pumped out through our regular
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sewer system now?
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>> no, it would be through dewatering pumps
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specifically.
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>> into tanker trucks and then driven away?
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>> yes.
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>> okay. Is there a potential that any
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residents will need to be relocated?
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>> not to my knowledge.
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>> if you could explain to me what a
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piezometer is?
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>> it measures ground pressures.
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>> ground pressure?
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>> yes.
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>> okay.
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so it said in the packet that the daytime
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hours that construction was allowed was between 7:00 and
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7:00. Are there multiple shifts that go on during that
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time period or is there an eight-hour shift that happens
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some time during that time period?
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>> we haven't gotten to that level of detail
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for the construction contract yet, but we'll take that
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comment into consideration.
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>> so my question is, will there be
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construction activity from 7:00 a.m. To 7:00 p.m.?
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that's my question, ongoing? Have we ever used a hotline
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in the past on any projects here in the city?
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>> the hotline has been established since
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2015.
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>> so I'd like to know just the history of
[29:45]
that, how many calls we get in a given month.
[29:49]
>> oh, it fluctuates depending on the
[29:52]
topics. For example, when we had to raise rates for
[30:00]
sewers we got a lot of calls.
[30:03]
>> okay.
[30:05]
>> but when there's not much activity we
[30:07]
don't get many calls.
[30:09]
>> is it posted on our website?
[30:12]
>> yes it's on the screen too. On the right.
[30:16]
>> so that's the hotline to the call the
[30:19]
clean water program?
[30:20]
>> yes.
[30:21]
>> okay. How do you notice when construction
[30:32]
is going to incur on the weekend or does it just happen?
[30:39]
>> any type of variance outside of monday
[30:43]
through friday workdays would have to get approved, and
[30:47]
then notifications would go out accordingly.
[30:50]
>> how does that happen?
[30:52]
>> through mailers, typically.
[30:56]
>> does it go through e-mail or is it a hard
[30:58]
copy?
[30:59]
>> typically, for some of the projects in
[31:02]
the collection system that we're doing right now we send
[31:04]
out mailers and then follow up with door hangers.
[31:09]
>> okay. Will the grade separation at 25th
[31:14]
avenue be done before this project starts?
[31:18]
>> I'm not familiar with the timeline of
[31:20]
that project.
[31:22]
>> my concern is, are we going to have a
[31:24]
traffic impact from the grade separation at that exact
[31:29]
point that we have traffic issues affecting delaware at
[31:33]
25th with this project?
[31:43]
there was a table under the traffic section
[31:47]
that detailed 2005 conditions and then potential
[31:54]
conditions from this project. I wondered if there were
[31:59]
any other data points for later than 2005 because
[32:03]
between 2005 and now things have really changed, and I
[32:09]
wasn't confident in that data. It was table 16-4.
[32:22]
on the native american requirements there
[32:29]
was only a letter in the packet from a state department
[32:36]
that just gave how things needed to work. It wasn't a
[32:41]
response from an ohlone representative, and I just
[32:45]
wondered if anyone from the ohlone people had responded
[32:51]
personally to what was going on along the construction
[32:55]
site? My concern with that would be that since it does
[33:01]
have a close proximity to a creek bed that there could
[33:06]
possibly be artifacts that we're going to dig up
[33:10]
underground.
[33:17]
those are my only comments or questions
[33:20]
right now.
[33:21]
>> alright. Thank you.
[33:23]
>> thank you.
[33:27]
>> I have a couple of questions. I
[33:29]
understand that your construction time is from 7:00
[33:32]
a.m. To 7:00 p.m.. How would that affect the flow of
[33:35]
traffic from the neighborhood -- the traffic plant from
[33:43]
the neighborhood residents and also for the school? Have
[33:47]
you had conversations with the school and residents
[33:50]
about when would be the best time to have construction
[33:53]
vehicles on that street? I understand that saratoga is
[33:56]
going to be the main point for the construction
[33:58]
vehicles, and saratoga is the main street to go into the
[34:02]
school and the residents.
[34:05]
and also, if the goal was to have mailers or
[34:10]
have door hangers on weekend construction, how would
[34:14]
that affect the use of the neighborhood park where some
[34:19]
of the events, sports events, are held on the weekend as
[34:23]
well? Those are my two questions.
[34:29]
>> thank you. Okay. I will open up the
[34:34]
public comment period on this project, and I see we have
[34:41]
speaker slips. How many?
[34:45]
>> 12.
[34:46]
>> 12, okay. We're going to be using the
[34:50]
timer tonight so each speaker will have three minutes,
[34:55]
and the secretary will call your name.
[35:03]
>> bay meadows neighborhood alliance, kelly
[35:07]
moran and jonathan shafferman.
[35:14]
>> before we begin, we put in a request for
[35:16]
a group presentation and the slip says that allows us
[35:19]
fifteen minutes and we have planned for more than three
[35:23]
minutes as our neighborhood presentation.
[35:25]
>> okay we'll set the timer for 15, and I
[35:28]
hope we won't take up all that time.
[35:31]
>> jonathan is actually going to start, but
[35:33]
I want to introduce the bay meadows neighborhood
[35:41]
alliance. We're 750 for homes, and we've got between
[35:47]
1,000 and 2,000 residents in the neighborhood alliance.
[35:52]
we did not have time to take a position
[35:55]
given the short notice, but we'll be submitting written
[36:00]
comments but we won't be indicating specific positions
[36:03]
on almost anything that we say tonight. We do request
[36:06]
additional time to review the design because the first
[36:09]
time we saw it was friday night. Jonathan is going to
[36:14]
start off with our main comments, and then I'll follow
[36:18]
up.
[36:19]
>> commissioners, I'm jonathan and I reside
[36:22]
at 490 east 28th avenue, and I am speaking on behalf of
[36:29]
the bay meadows neighborhood alliance and also as a
[36:32]
member of the landsdowne homeowners association.
[36:38]
our bay meadows neighborhood alliance has
[36:41]
been actively engaged for two years. Given the
[36:46]
extraordinary project cost many of us actually disagreed
[36:50]
with the city's conclusion that the five million gallon
[36:53]
sewer tank sized for flood overflows was a better
[36:58]
multigenerational solution than full conveyance which we
[37:02]
discussed in several community meetings, addressing the
[37:07]
antiquated storm sewer network from the top of the
[37:10]
watershed and not at the bottom down in the flatlands of
[37:14]
the city. We also expressed concern that placement in
[37:17]
either bay meadows park or fiesta gardens park would
[37:21]
affect park users in either area.
[37:24]
additionally, we remain unsettled with the
[37:27]
additional financial burden that our neighborhood will
[37:31]
shoulder from property assessments to service the bond
[37:35]
debt for the project. Many of our homes are within 50 to
[37:39]
several hundred feet from the project site visible from
[37:42]
some of the diagrams. Today my home is visible from
[37:47]
diagrams that were presented today.
[37:49]
and our concern is that the draft eir does
[37:53]
not adequately address impacts during the construction
[37:57]
and post construction project phases especially the
[38:00]
structural risk to our homes. Our primary concern is
[38:04]
soil stability in the areas surrounding both trunk line
[38:08]
and sewer tank excavations especially given the amount
[38:12]
of dewatering that will be necessary.
[38:15]
the draft eir indicates that groundwater
[38:19]
elevation is shallow here. It has yet to be determined
[38:22]
as was expressed earlier, but it has in the report
[38:29]
expected to be somewhere between six and no more than 15
[38:32]
feet below the surface along most of the site.
[38:37]
now this is a site where the sewer tank
[38:43]
structure will be 50 feet below the surface, and what
[38:48]
wasn't mentioned earlier is that in order to support
[38:52]
that heavy a structure an additional 25 feet of
[38:57]
excavation will need to go down to install the piles
[39:00]
that will hold up the sewer tank. That's 75 feet below
[39:05]
surface.
[39:06]
we in the neighborhood are aware of the
[39:09]
severe unexpected settling, and I believe it was in
[39:11]
excess of three foot unexpected settling that occurred
[39:16]
at the concar rite aid store during excavation and
[39:18]
dewatering for the adjacent projects at 40o and 450
[39:21]
concar. And want adequate assurance that our homes,
[39:25]
streets and the bay meadows park will not survey similar
[39:29]
fate.
[39:30]
we believe no open trench codes will be done
[39:35]
and that pipeline installation discussed in section 4.2
[39:40]
of the project geotechnical report should be mandatory.
[39:46]
furthermore, we ask that the project contract stipulate
[39:50]
that no settlement damage will be made to adjacent
[39:55]
structures especially pipeline trenching and sewer tank
[40:00]
excavation activities, and that the contractor take full
[40:05]
equivocal responsibility for any settlement damage that
[40:09]
occurs to private property or city facilities.
[40:13]
we're concerned with construction noise. In
[40:15]
fact, the eir concludes that significant and unavoidable
[40:20]
impact will occur during the twenty-five month
[40:23]
construction phase of the project.
[40:25]
table 5.5 indicates that pile driving will
[40:31]
result in a noise level at 50 feet, and this exceeds the
[40:37]
threshold outline in a section of san mateo manciple
[40:45]
code and furthermore, 7.2 of the geotechnical report
[40:50]
suggest that quote, drilled in place piles may be
[40:53]
considered if noise and vibration of pile driving is not
[41:00]
acceptable without defining acceptable to whom. We
[41:03]
assert herein equivocally that noise and vibration from
[41:09]
pile driving will be unacceptable from hour homes within
[41:14]
the construction area and pre drilling as opposed to
[41:18]
standard pile driving will be necessary to mitigate
[41:22]
noise impact to punch through the coarse, sandy layers
[41:26]
of soil that show up in your soil locks.
[41:31]
sandy soil is where piledrivers get stuck
[41:37]
trying to punch through stiff soil layers. Measure 12.3
[41:42]
inquired to incorporate project construction to help
[41:46]
reduce the effects of off-site vibration, and these are
[41:51]
vibration reducing methods that can quantifiably
[41:57]
demonstrate noise impacts, but we cannot find any
[42:03]
definition of vibration issues describing how they may
[42:08]
be mitigated. Mitigation 12.3.a. Only calls for site
[42:14]
specific mitigation measures for the project to be
[42:17]
implemented as necessary. We do not want to repeat the
[42:41]
experience.
[42:45]
>> thank you.
[42:47]
to follow up just in a bigger picture we're
[42:49]
used to construction. There's construction going on all
[42:53]
around bay meadows. This project is proposing different
[42:57]
techniques tremendously troubling to our neighborhood.
[43:02]
the city has never allowed a private developer to do
[43:07]
pile driver, the one that goes pound, pound, pound. We
[43:13]
hear that in san francisco. We have never let anyone
[43:17]
violate that ordinance.
[43:21]
second, the proposal to put in sheet piles
[43:24]
instead of the standard water system that is being used
[43:29]
by every other development. So every other development
[43:32]
is doing drilled in place piles and lagging and tie
[43:36]
backs. This is the only proposal that has tried to do
[43:40]
that is cal train.
[43:41]
there were residents running into the street
[43:46]
in the middle of the night when cal train did that and
[43:49]
that was 2,000 feet from homes, and this is less than
[43:53]
one hundred feet from the nearest home and third is the
[43:57]
depth and this is why we're concerned about the
[43:59]
dewatering and we understand there are other methods
[44:03]
that's would be drawing down a lot less water, a
[44:07]
pinpoint watering system and we suggest that the city
[44:13]
review these other techniques and we were shocked when
[44:17]
we opened the eir and found those disturbing precedents
[44:21]
in this project. Nothing had ever been said about that.
[44:26]
we know that having construction near our homes is going
[44:29]
to be a pain, but we don't want damage in our homes.
[44:35]
the other precedent here is about vibration.
[44:38]
the eir, you all get to set the significant standard and
[44:44]
that is no damage to buildings. So the right significant
[44:48]
standard should be ability to use ones' home and work in
[44:52]
ones' office nearby. So that's a lower vibration level.
[44:57]
the vibration that is being proposed almost
[45:00]
reaches but doesn't quite reach at the nearest house as
[45:04]
they predict the level that would cause damage to
[45:07]
buildings. It far exceeds the level that would prevent
[45:11]
normal use of ones' home. It would be like having a mini
[45:15]
earthquake going on. All the dishes would rattle in your
[45:19]
home.
[45:20]
for example, everything would rattle in your
[45:22]
office if you are working at home. That does not create
[45:25]
a condition that would be acceptable in my view for the
[45:28]
city and not a precedent we would want to set for
[45:31]
allowing private developers to do the same thing. I urge
[45:33]
you to define it as such. That sort of precedent could
[45:38]
not be accepted by the rest of the city.
[45:41]
we're also interested in preserving the use
[45:44]
of the parks. The eir admits that there's construction
[45:50]
next to both of the other city parks in the area so this
[45:52]
would be at the same time, construction next to the
[45:54]
city's largest park in this area. Here we'd be looking
[45:59]
for hours of construction to end to allow for that after
[46:02]
school soccer time and quiet time on weekends.
[46:05]
the staff informed you on the city
[46:08]
construction hours. Unless you establish requirements to
[46:11]
provide that kind of notification and self permitting
[46:15]
weekend system, that would not be by default a city
[46:19]
requirement.
[46:21]
there were e-mail notices sent and it kept
[46:23]
the construction to weekdays to allow us to use our
[46:28]
residences and gave us advanced notice so we could plan
[46:32]
our lives around that and not use the park space next to
[46:36]
them.
[46:37]
also, I think there's a very strong city
[46:39]
interest in preventing damage to homes and to prevent
[46:43]
unreasonable noise as precedents, and I think you all
[46:48]
really need to enforce that of staff. I don't think the
[46:51]
staff really want to do these things, but the
[46:54]
information in front of us and our experience which
[46:57]
should highlight the event center has been a really
[47:00]
great neighbor but they've been trying to handle how
[47:04]
they work out late night parties, and they've had a
[47:07]
private person running the sound system and the
[47:11]
vibration causes the exact same vibration I'm talking
[47:16]
about; dishes rattling during a concert, our whole homes
[47:21]
were rattling at night so every half an hour you'd wake
[47:24]
up, shake, shake, shake for five minutes. That's the
[47:28]
kind of stuff. It's just simply not acceptable for
[47:32]
members of our community and to have that go on for six
[47:36]
months, it's devastating to members of our community and
[47:41]
we do as a neighborhood -- it is our pattern to try to
[47:45]
work with people, and we are are interested in working
[47:48]
on this to find an acceptable solution.
[47:51]
I'm pretty confident if the city proposed
[47:54]
techniques and monitoring programs and did some work to
[47:58]
make sure that the park is useable on the weekends and
[48:01]
so forth, that our neighborhood would not oppose the
[48:05]
project, but I'm not 100% sure on that since we haven't
[48:09]
taken a position.
[48:10]
thank you for listening to our neighborhoods
[48:13]
concerns, and we're hoping by laying this more detailed
[48:17]
testimony in front of you that will make it easier for
[48:20]
both you and the other residents who have shared their
[48:23]
concerns to share their concerns with you. Thank you.
[48:28]
>> thank you. Now we're going to go to the
[48:30]
three minute clock and call the individual speakers,
[48:33]
please.
[48:35]
>> jean holbrook followed by joshua
[48:39]
wallstorm.
[48:46]
>> thank you, commissioners, for giving us
[48:50]
this opportunity. I am a member of the amelia members
[48:56]
association. I have sewage tank fatigue. I was at all of
[49:06]
those meetings, and I appreciate that the neighborhood
[49:08]
association and my neighbors are willing to persist on
[49:12]
this because we care very much about the quality of life
[49:15]
in our neighborhood.
[49:17]
both jonathan and kelly laid out the
[49:19]
details, but I just want to say as a member of the
[49:22]
community I'm concerned about continued use of the park
[49:25]
through the construction. It's not just used on weekends
[49:28]
by any means. We have soccer over there every day during
[49:32]
the soccer season and there are many families, children,
[49:36]
parents, dogs, that use that park on a regular basis
[49:40]
since that is our backyard.
[49:42]
I also am concerned about the noise and the
[49:45]
vibration. I thought I heard staff say we can mitigate
[49:48]
everything but noise and vibration which of course I
[49:52]
hope I misunderstood.
[49:54]
also I want to make sure that the
[49:55]
construction methods that are used do make it possible
[49:59]
for us to sleep and enjoy our homes. Bay meadows is a
[50:04]
wonderful community, and that's why we're all here
[50:07]
tonight. We want to preserve that. Thank you.
[50:09]
>> thank you.
[50:11]
>> hi. My name is joshua wallstorm, and I'm
[50:18]
a resident of bay meadows and also a member of the
[50:21]
landsdowne homeowners association, and I lived in bay
[50:26]
meadows, one of the first people to move in and of
[50:31]
course, I'm no stranger to construction and living with
[50:34]
construction noise but I just want to reiterate kelly
[50:37]
and johnathen's comments. I think they did a good job
[50:43]
expressing my concerns about the construction techniques
[50:45]
that are being used and whether they are appropriate and
[50:48]
safe and avoid damage to our homes and the surrounding
[50:52]
homes outside of bay meadows as well.
[50:56]
one comment that I'd like to state
[50:58]
specifically about about the noise mitigation, there was
[51:01]
a claim that due to the fact that most of the
[51:03]
construction is going to happen deep inside the tank
[51:06]
that's being constructed, that noise mitigation is not
[51:11]
as much of a concern, but there is that six month period
[51:14]
where they are going to be constructing and pile driving
[51:18]
and I would really urge the commission to require and
[51:21]
the city in fact to require that they erect a tall noise
[51:26]
barrier. Thank you.
[51:27]
>> thank you.
[51:29]
>> eranzi followed by ann mclaughlin.
[51:37]
>> good evening. Thank you for giving me the
[51:41]
opportunity to address my concern and rest for
[51:47]
assurance. I'm an owner of a house on 20th avenue and
[51:55]
I'm actually a member of the bright side hoa. The
[51:59]
environmental study that I saw has a lot of shortcoming
[52:07]
and I'm here to -- actually, I was here to try to get
[52:12]
some answers which I guess I'm not going to get this
[52:16]
evening.
[52:17]
my many concerns is actually about the noise
[52:21]
and the vibrations. So, we had the experience with the
[52:29]
cal train issues and we made the noise and well it
[52:36]
stopped but it was really, really bad. It was in the
[52:41]
middle of the night, two a.m. And I don't know how they
[52:45]
got to it and on the weekends it was really bad.
[52:50]
and my main concern is that the vibration
[53:00]
will weaken the foundations. In the event of an
[53:04]
earthquake and because of the foundations that got
[53:08]
weakened, if there's a damage to their houses, my house,
[53:13]
neighborhood houses, will we be compensated? Will the
[53:21]
city compensate us? Will the construction? That's a big
[53:30]
concern that I have. An earthquake can actually hit us
[53:36]
and I understand if it's a 10.0 it's not going to stand
[53:40]
usually, but maybe if it's weakened and it's a 4.0 it
[53:45]
may cause some issues.
[53:47]
and also since I work from home, most of the
[53:51]
days of the week I'd like to limit the noise and
[53:55]
definitely I'd like the noise just to be between nine
[53:58]
and five just like every other work and definitely not
[54:05]
on the weekends and nights.
[54:08]
and also, I wanted to ask if anybody thinks
[54:14]
about the contingency in case we have an overrun on the
[54:19]
budget for this construction because in my experience
[54:24]
everything runs over budget, actually.
[54:28]
well, thank you for listening to me. Thank
[54:30]
you.
[54:31]
>> thank you.
[54:33]
>> ann mclaughlin followed by vanessa
[54:39]
seawell.
[54:41]
>> hi. My name is ann mclaughlin and martin
[54:44]
and I are residents at bay meadows and members of the
[54:48]
bright side homeowners association. And we agree that
[54:51]
the environmental impact report has serious shortcomings
[54:55]
and also support the neighborhoods' requests that the
[54:58]
site change it's approach, and do not involve violation
[55:07]
of the city's noise ordinance. And we believe that
[55:11]
mitigation and several areas of the eir are both
[55:15]
imprecise and lacking include but are not limited to
[55:20]
noise abatement.
[55:21]
I was one of the residents who ran out in
[55:24]
the middle of the night in my pj's. The noise was
[55:27]
unacceptable and frightening.
[55:30]
the cal train project was more limited in
[55:32]
scope and duration than this proposed project. Only
[55:36]
after residents' complaints to cal train was it switched
[55:41]
to alternative methods and the impact of this projects
[55:45]
construction on local schools and parks and it is
[55:50]
unacceptable. A hotline is not mitigation, and the
[55:53]
proposed temporary barriers appear inadequate. I request
[56:06]
that any city official who has not experienced this type
[56:10]
of noise and vibration to sample it personally before
[56:13]
making a decision on this proposal. It is frightening.
[56:18]
second issue, dewatering impact 7-3, this
[56:21]
issue is also concerning without more information. The
[56:24]
risk of dewatering is called out in the report, and I
[56:29]
would also reference the millennial reflux. San mateo
[56:34]
says dewatering. This is from the san francisco
[56:37]
chronicle from an october 2016 article. This article
[56:41]
reports on the resulting litigation and potential
[56:44]
liability and the whole thing sounds like a mess.
[56:47]
as a homeowner I'm concerned about property
[56:50]
damage. As a san mateo taxpayer I'm concerned and
[56:55]
worried about the city leaving tax papers on the hook
[56:59]
for significant financial liability. We would like to
[57:04]
request a precise plan that fully addressed this risk
[57:09]
and adopts all reasonable measures to mitigate these
[57:13]
potential impacts.
[57:16]
traffic, this report estimates a significant
[57:20]
number of truck trips per day with estimates as high as
[57:25]
206 and the mitigation proposal of quote preparing a
[57:29]
traffic management plan is not mitigation. It proposes
[57:33]
no specific actions to address this significant
[57:36]
disruption. The proposed scheduling of this work
[57:40]
concurrently of the closure of the cal train station
[57:43]
promises to make a bad situation even worse. This eir
[57:48]
reinforces the poor site selection and planning for a
[57:53]
project in the middle of schools, parks and housing
[57:56]
areas, and I would urge this commission to reevaluate
[58:00]
this plan.
[58:01]
thank you very much.
[58:02]
>> thank you.
[58:04]
>> vanessa seawell.
[58:23]
>> hi, my name is vanessa seawell. I have
[58:24]
twin babies and a three year old. My biggest concern as
[58:28]
a mother is the noise vibration, the construction
[58:31]
process. My home is on saratoga drive, and I'm the
[58:35]
nearest home at bay meadows to this construction project
[58:40]
less than three hundred feet away.
[58:42]
the rite aid is about five hundred feet away
[58:46]
from recent construction that caused their structural
[58:49]
damage. So that is a large concern, and we've touched on
[58:53]
that. My biggest concern is the noise and pile driving.
[59:00]
I had my daughter, my first daughter and
[59:03]
next door the house was demolished and reconstructed
[59:08]
over the course of the next year. I was severely
[59:12]
affected by vibration, by sound that was constant over
[59:16]
that year, so much so that I was hospitalized for mental
[59:22]
health. This is not just something that can physically
[59:25]
affect hearing loss but mentally affect you.
[59:28]
I have three children that sleep in that
[59:31]
home everyday, and they take two naps a day. We're at
[59:34]
home with our kids, we're into the neighborhood walking
[59:38]
to the park every single day, and that's a large issue
[59:41]
if we're looking at something like over one hundred
[59:44]
decibels. That is a hundred times louder than the
[59:48]
eighty-five decibel mark that can cause hearing loss.
[59:51]
it's ridiculous and that cannot be acceptable.
[59:55]
further information or concern that I have
[59:57]
is with the dewatering process and I know that there are
[1:00:01]
better best practices to mitigate those issues that
[1:00:05]
could cause foundation and structural damage to our
[1:00:09]
homes and those need to be addressed. There's also -- I
[1:00:12]
don't believe the water would be trucked out of the area
[1:00:14]
if we're looking in excess of millions of gallons of
[1:00:18]
water during this construction period. We need to look
[1:00:20]
at recycling or recharging that water in the best
[1:00:24]
possible way, again, to limit problems with our
[1:00:25]
foundation.
[1:00:27]
I'm also concerned about vehicle traffic.
[1:00:30]
that is a large amount of noise specially because we
[1:00:33]
live on saratoga and several of my neighbors do as well.
[1:00:36]
we couldn't have four a.m., five a.m., six a.m. Trucks,
[1:00:41]
diesel, huge vehicles driving down our street waking us
[1:00:47]
up every morning for over six months. I have one year
[1:00:52]
old twins, newborns, I understand losing sleep but the
[1:00:56]
facts of these large vehicles roaring up and down the
[1:01:00]
street every day is not acceptable. So I do think we
[1:01:03]
need to have parameters of times of day in place for
[1:01:07]
construction and traffic. Thank you.
[1:01:09]
>> thank you.
[1:01:43]
>> just a couple of things to add. One is
[1:01:51]
around the traffic mitigation that hasn't been mentioned
[1:01:52]
around the construction of the new sewer pipelines along
[1:01:53]
saratoga drive. Given the extra traffic that is flowing
[1:02:00]
on saratoga due to the parking of the facebook and
[1:02:11]
google employees. I think you are going to see extra
[1:02:14]
traffic impacts and as the event center continues to
[1:02:19]
have more and more events you are seeing more and more
[1:02:22]
cars in the morning between six and seven a.m. Going to
[1:02:25]
set up. I think any taking away of lanes is going to
[1:02:32]
cause major issues and you are going to have to mitigate
[1:02:36]
through the event center and that could lead to other
[1:02:39]
impacts.
[1:04:15]
>> those need to be thought of an
[1:04:18]
alternative method. There are many
[1:04:21]
considerations and I won't go over them
[1:04:25]
now. The vibrations of our homes
[1:04:30]
foundations and our values
[1:04:40]
again, I just ask that you hear us and
[1:04:44]
I want to reiterate there are more
[1:04:52]
appropriate and safer methods. That's
[1:04:54]
what's being proposed and I also want to
[1:04:56]
remind this is a brand new high density
[1:05:00]
neighborhood. This is not an industrial
[1:05:02]
commercial zone. Thank you.
[1:05:03]
>> thank you.
[1:05:06]
>> ray lynn.
[1:05:13]
public speaker: hi, I'm a resident of
[1:05:16]
bay meadows and also a member of the
[1:05:20]
homeowners association. I share the same
[1:05:24]
concerns with my neighbors. In addition
[1:05:26]
have two questions and I wonder if the
[1:05:28]
council can help with. My first question
[1:05:30]
is regarding the environmental impact on
[1:05:35]
the natural lives in the parks of the
[1:05:39]
birds. During spring there is a lot of
[1:05:42]
birds migrating into this area. I wonder
[1:05:44]
if the team has evaluated the potential
[1:05:47]
environmental impact on these natural
[1:05:49]
lives.
[1:05:50]
second question is regarding the
[1:05:51]
selection of the exact location. So
[1:05:56]
there are other spots in the san mateo
[1:05:59]
area. The proposed area is adjacent to
[1:06:00]
the park and also very close to the
[1:06:02]
residential area. So I just wonder if
[1:06:03]
the
[1:06:06]
team has evaluated other spots in the
[1:06:07]
san
[1:06:15]
mateo area. One wish that I wish for
[1:06:18]
council to help is that we didn't get
[1:06:24]
this environmental impact report until
[1:06:26]
very late lasts week. So that makes it
[1:06:30]
very challenging to have a thorough
[1:06:33]
review and provide comment during this
[1:06:35]
short period. We would appreciate more
[1:06:36]
time for review in order to have more
[1:06:39]
constructive and meaning full feedback
[1:06:40]
to
[1:06:41]
the council in the future. So that's why
[1:06:45]
I'm especially preview of today's
[1:06:47]
opportunity that we can be here to share
[1:06:49]
our thoughts with this council. I hope
[1:06:52]
the council can keep the spirit and
[1:06:53]
we'll
[1:06:54]
have a very open and transparent
[1:06:58]
democratic process throughout this
[1:06:59]
project. Thank you very much.
[1:07:02]
>> thank you.
[1:07:10]
>>clerk: jennifer mcadam.
[1:07:12]
public speaker: hi, there, I would like
[1:07:15]
to thank the commission for the
[1:07:17]
opportunity to speak. I'm a member of
[1:07:18]
the
[1:07:21]
homeowners associations and I live along
[1:07:25]
13th avenue. I share some of these
[1:07:27]
comments regarding the short
[1:07:28]
accommodations regarding the
[1:07:32]
environmental impact report, and agree
[1:07:37]
with my neighbors. I work from home and
[1:07:40]
I'm very sensitive to noise and I run a
[1:07:46]
lot of meetings. I'm mostly concerned
[1:07:47]
about the foundation and the vibration
[1:07:51]
issues that it could have on my home.
[1:07:53]
therefore I request that the city will
[1:07:57]
change the construction approach and may
[1:07:59]
not involve the violation of the cities
[1:08:03]
ordinance. In addition I would like the
[1:08:05]
commission to add a wall barrier during
[1:08:08]
the noise construction and consider
[1:08:10]
limiting the construction hours so we
[1:08:11]
may
[1:08:13]
have some peaceful days where we are
[1:08:14]
living. Thank you.
[1:08:17]
>> thank you.
[1:08:23]
>>clerk: wendy?
[1:08:25]
public speaker: I'm wendy, I have a home
[1:08:30]
in the meadows. I would like to support
[1:08:32]
all the concerns that bay meadows
[1:08:36]
alliance has brought up. I think our
[1:08:39]
homes is like, it's our sanctuary, it's
[1:08:41]
where we go home and relax and all of
[1:08:46]
that stuff. The parks in our
[1:08:47]
neighborhood
[1:08:48]
are really important to us. So the use
[1:08:49]
of
[1:08:53]
that should be somewhat of a priority.
[1:08:55]
the noise and vibration, I also work
[1:08:56]
from
[1:08:57]
home. I would like you all to empathize
[1:09:02]
with homeowners there. Living there has
[1:09:06]
been great. We love our neighborhood,
[1:09:07]
but
[1:09:08]
if this is going to go on for 6 months
[1:09:09]
at
[1:09:12]
a time, it's really going to impact
[1:09:15]
everyone there. My husband would like to
[1:09:23]
add.
[1:09:26]
>> I live with her. A couple things I
[1:09:30]
will add. I don't know if you read the
[1:09:34]
recent new york times. There was a
[1:09:39]
couple that bought a couple brown stones
[1:09:43]
and they have been driving into the
[1:09:45]
foundation for months and it's driving
[1:09:47]
every mad and the local didn't realize
[1:09:52]
that was happening. So there are a lot
[1:09:53]
of
[1:09:56]
unintended consequences to these kinds
[1:09:57]
of
[1:09:59]
decisions that people have to live with.
[1:10:01]
unfortunately those that made the
[1:10:03]
decisions don't have to live with it.
[1:10:05]
the people around it do. Many of us are
[1:10:09]
always involved in planning large
[1:10:10]
projects. The plan that we have in place
[1:10:12]
is the most optimistic view. There is
[1:10:16]
never a plan that actually happens the
[1:10:19]
way it is planned. Everything always,
[1:10:24]
something always goes wrong. The fact
[1:10:26]
that we are this most optimistic view is
[1:10:31]
already quite horrifying if you live in
[1:10:33]
the neighborhood should give everyone
[1:10:35]
pause. It can get worse and it likely
[1:10:38]
will get worse, but if we already feel
[1:10:41]
this way of what the optimal view looks
[1:10:45]
like, that scares me. So I echo
[1:10:49]
everything that everyone here has been
[1:10:50]
saying. I look forward to having a
[1:10:51]
better
[1:10:53]
dialogue of where this goes after this.
[1:10:55]
thanks.
[1:10:57]
>> thank you.
[1:11:02]
>>clerk: claire?
[1:11:05]
public speaker: good evening,
[1:11:07]
commissioners and staff. My name is
[1:11:09]
claire and president of the homeowners
[1:11:15]
association's and I thank you for your
[1:11:18]
time today and thank you for your hard
[1:11:22]
work to listen to us. I really
[1:11:23]
appreciate
[1:11:26]
it. I have a couple of concerns and
[1:11:30]
first is vibrating and it's impacting
[1:11:31]
the
[1:11:32]
homes in our neighborhood. We've all
[1:11:33]
seen
[1:11:36]
issues with structure integrity can
[1:11:38]
actually cause things like windows and
[1:11:43]
wall cracks and even foundation at
[1:11:45]
issues. These are expensive problems. My
[1:11:47]
questions are what is the staff as plan,
[1:11:50]
mitigation plan for these issues which
[1:12:03]
are expensive to repair, and do we have
[1:12:05]
fund set aside to pay for potential
[1:12:06]
damages for private property and homes.
[1:12:07]
we've all heard about the leaning power
[1:12:08]
of san francisco caused by transbay
[1:12:16]
construction. We don't want to be known
[1:12:18]
as the leaning homes in san mateo. That
[1:12:19]
is not ideal for all of us. So my
[1:12:20]
question is, have you considered
[1:12:21]
alternative construction methods? The
[1:12:22]
current proposed message is the
[1:12:28]
polydriven method. How did we reach this
[1:12:31]
conclusion? Is it the cheapest method,
[1:12:35]
have you thought about it damaging other
[1:12:37]
homes. Why is there no report in the
[1:12:38]
eir.
[1:12:40]
is there a way that we can actually do
[1:12:41]
an
[1:12:45]
analysis and an alternative construction
[1:12:47]
method. I also want to echo a point that
[1:12:49]
a neighbor brought up earlier which is
[1:12:53]
impact to wildlife. In san mateo, we
[1:13:00]
have wildlife birds that pass through
[1:13:01]
the
[1:13:02]
parks. Have we thought about the
[1:13:03]
wildlife that pass through the parks. I
[1:13:05]
thank you for your time and effort on
[1:13:07]
this project. I hope we can work
[1:13:08]
together
[1:13:10]
to get to a good conclusion for
[1:13:11]
everyone.
[1:13:13]
>> thank you.
[1:13:16]
>> sally chang followed by lauren lee.
[1:13:25]
public speaker: hi, I'm sally chang.
[1:13:28]
thank you for letting us speak tonight.
[1:13:34]
I'm a property owner and I live near the
[1:13:39]
proposed construction and also part of
[1:13:40]
the lands down association.
[1:13:43]
we just moved into this neighborhood
[1:13:44]
last
[1:13:46]
year and we specifically moved out of
[1:13:47]
san
[1:13:48]
francisco where there is a lot of
[1:13:50]
construction because we wanted to live
[1:13:51]
in
[1:13:52]
a place where we could raise children
[1:13:53]
and
[1:13:55]
we could have like a quiet neighborhood,
[1:13:59]
a beautiful park to live next to, and to
[1:14:06]
just have a peaceful home to go home to.
[1:14:13]
we are planning on starting our family
[1:14:16]
this coming year, and the fact that this
[1:14:19]
construction has really loud methods of
[1:14:21]
construction for 6 months really
[1:14:33]
terrifies me. As a mother going
[1:14:36]
through this, it's a really scare
[1:14:37]
process
[1:14:40]
at some point having construction
[1:14:41]
between
[1:14:42]
the hours of 7:00 a.m. And 7:00 p.m.
[1:14:43]
that
[1:14:46]
makes it even more terrifying. I agree
[1:14:50]
with a lot that has been said so far by
[1:14:53]
the members of the community, and I
[1:14:55]
strongly urge the city and commission to
[1:14:58]
really think of alternative methods of
[1:15:00]
construction because it just really
[1:15:05]
affects the livelihoods of many people
[1:15:06]
--
[1:15:08]
who are here to speak today and it
[1:15:11]
affects lives of people who are working,
[1:15:16]
people who have families, children,
[1:15:18]
animals, everyone in our community.
[1:15:20]
thank you.
[1:15:21]
>>clerk: lauren lee, followed by simon
[1:15:27]
yun.
[1:15:28]
public speaker: good evening. Thank you
[1:15:32]
so much to the commission for the
[1:15:34]
opportunity for all the of us to speak
[1:15:38]
here.
[1:15:39]
I'm lauren lee, and I live at 2868
[1:15:45]
saratoga drive. From east 28th in
[1:15:49]
saratoga. Just close to my neighbor with
[1:15:51]
vanessa. She was here with three kids. I
[1:15:53]
have four kids and three of them being
[1:15:56]
boys. We moved from pleasanton. We were
[1:15:59]
the first building to go up and we were
[1:16:03]
there before anything came to bay
[1:16:06]
meadows. And bay meadows park is our
[1:16:11]
backyard. We left pleasanton and bay
[1:16:14]
meadows is our backyard and we need it
[1:16:20]
desperately especially with the boys. I
[1:16:21]
want to agree with all of my neighbors
[1:16:26]
and community members here that are
[1:16:27]
present that you take a closer look at
[1:16:30]
some of the plans and consider just the
[1:16:34]
impact that it has in our neighborhood.
[1:16:38]
thank you.
[1:16:39]
>> thank you.
[1:16:42]
>>clerk: simon yun followed by eric
[1:16:43]
park.
[1:16:45]
public speaker: good evening, I want to
[1:16:46]
say thank you to the commission for what
[1:16:48]
you are doing and the time you are
[1:16:49]
taking
[1:16:51]
to look into it. We really appreciate
[1:16:52]
it.
[1:16:53]
my name is simon yun, a homeowner in
[1:16:54]
the
[1:17:05]
land down hoa, also part of bay meadows.
[1:17:08]
I thank you for listening to our
[1:17:09]
concerns
[1:17:10]
and I want to speak to again the noise
[1:17:14]
and the vibration. When I think of the
[1:17:17]
substance of our concerns have been
[1:17:19]
addressed already. I just want to paint
[1:17:21]
picture of what this looks like.
[1:17:27]
my bedroom faces bay meadows park so
[1:17:31]
there is going to be nothing between us
[1:17:34]
and the construction going on. The issue
[1:17:37]
with noise and particularly concerning
[1:17:38]
are going to be imagine that maybe you
[1:17:40]
work at home and you are trying to work
[1:17:43]
during the day but there is power
[1:17:44]
driving
[1:17:48]
going on. It's not going to affect only
[1:17:53]
the conferences that you have going on
[1:17:56]
and you have to get work done and it may
[1:18:00]
not be easy to get work done because
[1:18:01]
it's
[1:18:04]
harder to focus and maybe you lose sleep
[1:18:09]
and you get woken up in the morning
[1:18:14]
because of this. I think this is
[1:18:16]
something we should avoid if we can. The
[1:18:19]
other thing is I have two young children
[1:18:21]
anther in school now fortunately and
[1:18:22]
they
[1:18:24]
are pretty good at sleeping, but I think
[1:18:26]
any parent knows the difference between
[1:18:29]
well rested child and a child on sleep
[1:18:33]
debt in terms of their ability to focus
[1:18:36]
and learn. I'm concerned about the
[1:18:37]
impact
[1:18:38]
that losing sleep is having on them
[1:18:43]
especially after the power driving
[1:18:44]
situation. The other thing is vibration,
[1:18:49]
and I think as residents of the bay area
[1:18:56]
we are cognizant of risks we have with
[1:18:59]
earthquakes, but I don't think when we
[1:19:02]
are buying property we as much think
[1:19:04]
about human caused risks to our
[1:19:07]
properties, structural risks to our
[1:19:09]
properties caused by construction
[1:19:10]
especially when there may be
[1:19:11]
alternatives
[1:19:12]
that are safer for our structures. I ask
[1:19:15]
that you please consider that. Thanks
[1:19:17]
for your time.
[1:19:19]
>> thank you. Eric park followed by tom
[1:19:26]
t.
[1:19:27]
public speaker: as everyone else has
[1:19:29]
said, thank you, commissioners, for
[1:19:30]
taking the time to listen to our
[1:19:33]
comments. I'm also with bay meadows
[1:19:37]
homeowners association. I agree with the
[1:19:39]
points made by the previous speakers. 2
[1:19:42]
points that I would like to reiterate, I
[1:19:44]
would like to say that bay meadows in
[1:19:47]
particular is a neighborhood of young
[1:19:49]
families. I have a six-year-old and
[1:19:51]
almost all houses near mine have houses
[1:19:54]
with families and near the schools. And
[1:20:00]
we have many people that work from home
[1:20:02]
and this is one of the demographics that
[1:20:06]
will be impacted by work. I have
[1:20:07]
concerns
[1:20:10]
about noise, pollution and noise on
[1:20:12]
families. I would like you to consider
[1:20:16]
the request made by all the speakers
[1:20:18]
today. Thank you.
[1:20:21]
>> tom t followed by dana stuart.
[1:20:26]
public speaker: hello, my name is tom
[1:20:30]
chi. I have been part of bay meadows
[1:20:33]
since 2015. Thank you, commission, for
[1:20:42]
allowing us to participate. I will keep
[1:20:47]
it short. I absolutely continue to echo
[1:20:51]
a lot of points that have been made and
[1:20:57]
can underscore what this allows us to do
[1:21:01]
except to engage in participation. A
[1:21:04]
couple of additional points. When we go
[1:21:07]
through all the construction, it's
[1:21:11]
absolutely understandable and expected,
[1:21:13]
right? People didn't move into a new
[1:21:16]
development expecting that you get peace
[1:21:20]
and quiet immediately. However, what I
[1:21:22]
do always noticed is that regardless of
[1:21:26]
the methods, while construction is
[1:21:28]
happening, the folks that are in it, the
[1:21:31]
workers, they have got gear protecting
[1:21:38]
eyes, ears, mouths, nose. When a mere
[1:21:44]
25-100 feet, however many feet away, we
[1:21:48]
are as residents experiencing much of
[1:21:49]
the
[1:21:51]
similar impacts without any of that
[1:21:54]
protection. So that is just another
[1:21:56]
perspective on what we talk about in
[1:22:00]
terms fof noise concerns and vibration
[1:22:09]
concerns. It matters a lot when we have
[1:22:13]
an expectation when we can have some
[1:22:16]
level of normalcy. But there is too much
[1:22:19]
x factor in the air, you know, perhaps
[1:22:20]
on
[1:22:23]
that day, not all the time and you want
[1:22:25]
to go back inside, but there is a lot of
[1:22:31]
impact there. Lastly, I would like to
[1:22:34]
just call in the question as we move
[1:22:39]
forward, let's, I would really love to
[1:22:40]
be
[1:22:43]
able to review information that helps us
[1:22:49]
validate decisions made progressively
[1:22:50]
with regard to the cost and what the
[1:22:53]
solution is such that as conditions
[1:22:55]
change, we allow ourselves the
[1:22:57]
flexibility. So what I would definitely
[1:22:59]
appreciate is that a ton of hard work
[1:23:00]
has
[1:23:04]
already gone into this over a long
[1:23:05]
period
[1:23:08]
of time. But every week, month that
[1:23:12]
passes and we have these large scale
[1:23:17]
projects, that it allows for flexibility
[1:23:21]
to approach solutions and what solutions
[1:23:23]
are best or matter most. Thanks.
[1:23:37]
>>clerk: dana stuart.
[1:23:38]
public speaker: thank you, commissioner
[1:23:40]
for allowing me to speak tonight. My
[1:23:42]
name is dana story. The ceo of the san
[1:23:46]
mateo county event center. I would like
[1:23:48]
to thank the city staff that I have
[1:23:52]
directly worked through with this
[1:23:53]
process. And I would like us to note the
[1:23:56]
designation of the agricultural
[1:23:58]
designation of the land. The san mateo
[1:24:09]
exposition and fair has dealt with san
[1:24:11]
mateo for the last 70 years. We are not
[1:24:16]
the oldest host facility, but the oldest
[1:24:18]
neighbors in the area. We also and I
[1:24:21]
think it's an important designation
[1:24:22]
under
[1:24:23]
the department of california food and
[1:24:24]
ag,
[1:24:25]
we are among the network of california
[1:24:29]
fairs and we are also the designated
[1:24:31]
office of emergency management resource
[1:24:33]
for the entire county and in the event
[1:24:34]
of
[1:24:36]
a natural disaster. We are self
[1:24:40]
supporting 501c3. All of the receive
[1:24:42]
that we operate on the land comes from
[1:24:47]
activities on the property. We are too
[1:24:50]
concerned about noise constraints. We
[1:24:52]
host everything from holiday parties
[1:24:53]
which you have heard from the neighbors
[1:24:56]
that can be somewhat disruptive
[1:25:00]
unfortunately to academic testings to
[1:25:04]
sony, high profile corporate events. We
[1:25:06]
also strive to be a really good
[1:25:07]
neighbor.
[1:25:09]
so specifically in relative to the event
[1:25:14]
that ms. Moran mentioned, one with the
[1:25:16]
issue of vibrations, that was a $200,000
[1:25:24]
per event of the event center. Because
[1:25:26]
they weren't able to comply with the
[1:25:30]
request for the reverberation made, this
[1:25:34]
is a san mateo corporation that put on
[1:25:39]
this event, they were asked not to come
[1:25:41]
back and that's because of our alliance
[1:25:43]
with the neighborhood. We are important
[1:25:46]
as a self supporting organization that
[1:25:49]
noise doesn't override our ability to
[1:25:53]
sustain that self sustainability and we
[1:25:55]
don't drive away our clients and we look
[1:25:59]
forward to working with city staff so
[1:26:01]
that doesn't happen. So such as
[1:26:04]
construction time, noise, process, our
[1:26:06]
buildings are old and not angered. We
[1:26:07]
are
[1:26:10]
working through an eir with county
[1:26:13]
council to achieve our best outcomes. We
[1:26:15]
look forward to continuing to work with
[1:26:16]
the community and the neighbors and the
[1:26:19]
city and hosting the project and looking
[1:26:22]
for developing as many positive outcomes
[1:26:24]
as we can along the way knowing that I'm
[1:26:28]
also a citizen of the city of san mateo
[1:26:30]
to work together to get to outcomes to
[1:26:46]
develop and minimize the noise in san
[1:26:56]
mateo.
[1:26:57]
public speaker: thank you, jonathan, I'm
[1:26:59]
speaking on behalf of myself and my
[1:27:01]
family on this add on comment. I want to
[1:27:06]
discuss pedestrian, public safety and
[1:27:08]
pedestrian and bicycle safety
[1:27:11]
specifically. Both on saratoga during
[1:27:20]
the construction period, but also the
[1:27:22]
city have a safer walking route for the
[1:27:27]
safe bus commuters and to the centers
[1:27:31]
from the parking lot during the
[1:27:35]
construction. Saratoga is going to be
[1:27:36]
less welcoming at best and quite
[1:27:41]
dangerous at worse. Both pedestrians and
[1:27:46]
bicyclist during the construction
[1:27:47]
period.
[1:27:48]
a suggestion that the city study and
[1:27:50]
potentially coordinate with the event
[1:27:52]
center and the county to provide a
[1:27:56]
pedestrian gate from bay meadows park to
[1:28:00]
the event center parking lot and that
[1:28:02]
suggestion would be at an appropriate
[1:28:08]
location where pedestrian safety and
[1:28:10]
bicycle safety can be taken into account
[1:28:12]
perhaps closer to nuevo school. Thank
[1:28:13]
you.
[1:28:28]
>>clerk: lily wu.
[1:28:29]
public speaker: hi, my name is lily wu.
[1:28:34]
>> please speak closer to the mic.
[1:28:38]
>> I would like to thank you for giving
[1:28:41]
us the opportunity to let you know how
[1:28:42]
we
[1:28:45]
feel. I live near with my children. I
[1:28:48]
represent my family and the community.
[1:28:59]
my concern mainly is the foundation or
[1:29:02]
the process and method of their trying
[1:29:03]
to
[1:29:06]
build the sewage tank. The reason for
[1:29:08]
that is already, I understand there is
[1:29:09]
already the way it is proposed right now
[1:29:12]
it could have some very possible
[1:29:13]
damages,
[1:29:17]
and I'm thinking, you know, in san
[1:29:19]
francisco, we have the problem with the
[1:29:23]
leaning building and then later on with
[1:29:26]
the bus terminal area. We are very
[1:29:29]
concerned about problems with
[1:29:30]
foundations
[1:29:31]
because the foundation is most important
[1:29:32]
to a building. And that is expensive in
[1:29:42]
the area and even to live in the area,
[1:29:44]
and if there is a problem affecting the
[1:29:47]
residents, I think is a lot of stress
[1:29:49]
because in our bay meadows neighborhood,
[1:29:51]
I think a lot of people are very
[1:29:53]
hardworking and a lot of money is going
[1:29:55]
into the residents but they work hard
[1:29:56]
for
[1:29:58]
that, and if something happens, how will
[1:30:00]
they be able to handle the damages and
[1:30:05]
the recuperate. Which could be coming
[1:30:13]
back to the city. So I would recommend
[1:30:17]
instead of going forward, with
[1:30:25]
the problems, take the preventative
[1:30:27]
method. If there is a problem, then
[1:30:30]
later it might be worse. If you are not
[1:30:41]
able to prevent the damages, maybe look
[1:30:44]
at it in a different way. And for the
[1:30:47]
people that are also of working class,
[1:30:52]
and to do well, if there is a lot of
[1:30:54]
noise, that is going to affect the
[1:30:57]
performance. I think my main concern is
[1:31:06]
that I don't think this is an ideal area
[1:31:11]
to have a sewage tank. I don't know if
[1:31:13]
it's too late to consider, or as was
[1:31:18]
suggested earlier, there is a location
[1:31:19]
in
[1:31:22]
the park that can serve the area better.
[1:31:25]
I really worry about it for everyone in
[1:31:27]
that area. Thank you.
[1:31:36]
public speaker: thank you for the
[1:31:38]
opportunity to speak as an individual.
[1:31:40]
I'm here representing myself and my
[1:31:42]
husband markle yot who was too sick to
[1:31:43]
be
[1:31:46]
here tonight. We are members of the land
[1:31:51]
homeowners associations association. I
[1:31:53]
want to mention there are numerous
[1:31:54]
errors
[1:31:59]
in the eir and I will send those
[1:32:00]
comments
[1:32:03]
to you. And I want to mention that
[1:32:05]
delaware is set to open when it would
[1:32:08]
start and 25th would close and traffic
[1:32:10]
would be very difficult and the same for
[1:32:13]
pedestrian and bicycle situation through
[1:32:15]
the construction area. Finally, I would
[1:32:16]
like to point you to design comments I
[1:32:20]
have sent via e-mail. I will not take
[1:32:24]
time to repeat those here but I'm
[1:32:25]
assuming
[1:32:31]
you will get that. And I would like to
[1:32:33]
thank you for being here. It's also an
[1:32:37]
opportunity to get things on course when
[1:32:39]
they seem off course in the community.
[1:32:41]
you have that opportunity tonight. Thank
[1:32:43]
you.
[1:32:50]
public speaker: hello, my name is mike
[1:32:53]
brat. I live on 10th street which is 150
[1:32:56]
feet from where this tank is proposed to
[1:32:58]
go in. What is I find amazing is that I
[1:33:03]
was up here when bay meadows phase 1
[1:33:04]
came
[1:33:09]
in and I said, look, one of the big
[1:33:11]
things is the sewage capacity. It barely
[1:33:13]
meets what we have. You need to increase
[1:33:17]
it. No no no. When phase two came in, we
[1:33:28]
said, it a big problem. And you said, no
[1:33:30]
no no, we are going to have more coming
[1:33:34]
in, are you goes to increase capacity?
[1:33:36]
no no, we are going to build a storage
[1:33:40]
tank. Well for 25 years with all of
[1:33:41]
these
[1:33:42]
developments we have been going over the
[1:33:44]
same stuff over and over again, sewer,
[1:33:52]
noise, vibration. Honestly, the
[1:33:53]
neighborhood is done. You have
[1:33:56]
surrounded us with development that is
[1:33:58]
just inundating our lives with nothing
[1:34:01]
that is redeeming. I take it back. I
[1:34:04]
like bay meadows, both phase 1 and phase
[1:34:07]
2, they beat the expectation that I had
[1:34:10]
for them. I enjoy walking through them
[1:34:13]
and I enjoy it every single day every
[1:34:16]
weekend. I apologize for my comment.
[1:34:19]
however, the noise and all of the
[1:34:21]
construction impacts of those two
[1:34:24]
developments, and everything that's gone
[1:34:26]
on around us has taken our quality of
[1:34:28]
life and made it very stressful. My wife
[1:34:33]
is a two time cancer survivor. Her
[1:34:34]
cancer
[1:34:36]
came on about a year after saratoga was
[1:34:41]
done. I sustained $5,000 worth of
[1:34:42]
personal damage to the outside of my
[1:34:45]
house because of the fungal infection
[1:34:49]
that came from the air born stuff that
[1:34:52]
they tore off from saratoga. I asked for
[1:34:56]
it to be paid for, no, no, no, I
[1:34:57]
couldn't
[1:35:03]
prove it. I had proof, but it didn't
[1:35:07]
matter. But I'm here watching this and
[1:35:09]
hearing all the concerns which I 100%
[1:35:12]
appreciate all of the research that they
[1:35:14]
have done. I hope it doesn't fall on
[1:35:18]
deaf ears having lived through all this,
[1:35:21]
having been told everything is going to
[1:35:22]
be fine and then you find out it's not
[1:35:26]
fine. But it's already in process and
[1:35:36]
the impacts are horrendous. Listen to
[1:35:38]
their comments because they are going to
[1:35:43]
be impacted like when theirs was
[1:35:54]
developed. Thank you.
[1:35:55]
>> I have no more speaker slips.
[1:35:58]
>> okay, is there anyone else in the
[1:36:03]
audience that would like to come forward
[1:36:04]
and make some comments to the planning
[1:36:07]
commission? You can fill out the yellow
[1:36:10]
slip afterwards if need be.
[1:36:17]
>> james yang.
[1:36:18]
public speaker: thank you for the
[1:36:20]
opportunity to speak. My name is james
[1:36:22]
yang. I'm a resident of bay meadows, my
[1:36:25]
wife and I are and a member of the
[1:36:26]
meadow
[1:36:29]
walks and the bay meadows alliance and
[1:36:34]
the meadow walk homeowners associations.
[1:36:38]
I don't want to reiterate too much of
[1:36:39]
what my neighbors have been saying. I
[1:36:41]
have absolutely agreed with most of the
[1:36:44]
comments here tonight, and most of the
[1:36:47]
bay meadows residents have come to
[1:36:51]
understand that the sewage tank is a
[1:36:53]
result or I guess it's a solution for
[1:37:00]
waters that's overflow that's coming
[1:37:01]
from
[1:37:02]
pipes that are damaged up and through
[1:37:03]
the
[1:37:05]
hills and it's a result of rain and not
[1:37:07]
really a result of increased population.
[1:37:11]
we've come to understand that this is
[1:37:16]
necessary. The residents are a group of
[1:37:31]
public minding and decent citizens. I
[1:37:34]
would add that if we allow for potential
[1:37:41]
property damage or additional noise,
[1:37:42]
it's
[1:37:44]
really adding injury to insult. It's
[1:37:47]
adding an additional layer of things for
[1:37:50]
residents who have already come to
[1:37:52]
understand the need for something like
[1:37:54]
this and come to accept it and actually
[1:37:56]
be open to it. So I just wanted to add
[1:38:00]
that. Thank you.
[1:38:02]
>> thank you.
[1:38:13]
>> anyone else? Okay, we'll close the
[1:38:16]
public comment period. So continue or
[1:38:18]
take a short break? Okay. Are you okay?
[1:38:26]
okay.
[1:38:27]
so were there any questions or issues
[1:38:28]
that the public brought up that we can
[1:38:31]
provide additional information tonight?
[1:38:49]
>> I would like to introduce heather,
[1:38:50]
she
[1:38:54]
prepared the environmental impact
[1:38:55]
report.
[1:38:56]
>> I would like to address the public
[1:38:59]
comments. The public comments will be
[1:39:02]
considered and considered against the
[1:39:04]
evaluation that was conducted for the
[1:39:05]
eir
[1:39:06]
and formal responses will be made in a
[1:39:10]
final document and again, as derek
[1:39:13]
indicated, we are expecting that to be
[1:39:17]
sometime in the fall. But I did want to
[1:39:19]
address a few things that the
[1:39:21]
commissioners brought up. I believe the
[1:39:22]
agricultural question that you had was
[1:39:25]
addressed, but if you have additional
[1:39:26]
questions, we can go over that. There
[1:39:27]
was
[1:39:29]
some concern about the contamination or
[1:39:32]
question about the contamination and
[1:39:33]
there is a phase 1 site assessment in
[1:39:34]
the
[1:39:37]
report. I don't want to quote from it
[1:39:39]
because I don't have it in front of me,
[1:39:41]
but I would start there and review that,
[1:39:46]
and we can of course come back with full
[1:39:50]
quick summary on the contamination that
[1:39:55]
was determined not necessarily, there
[1:39:57]
were not soil samples that I understand,
[1:40:00]
but again, I don't want to quote from
[1:40:01]
the
[1:40:04]
report.
[1:40:06]
>> excuse me, is it in this report?
[1:40:10]
>> yes, the first part of the report
[1:40:11]
that
[1:40:14]
summarizes the phase 1 assessment and
[1:40:18]
there were errors on the phase 1 on the
[1:40:21]
thumb drive.
[1:40:22]
>> I don't have a thumb drive.
[1:40:23]
>> I'm sorry, I thought a thumb drive of
[1:40:27]
the reports was provided to the
[1:40:31]
commissioners? Either way, we can get
[1:40:34]
the report. It's on the website also.
[1:40:39]
the full eir and the attachments are on
[1:40:43]
the website for this attachment.
[1:40:45]
>> you gave it a name where the
[1:40:47]
contamination was?
[1:40:48]
>> a phase 1 site assessment.
[1:40:52]
>> phase one, thank you. So derek
[1:41:07]
provided a quick explanation of the
[1:41:10]
dewatering. If you have any questions on
[1:41:12]
that, I'm happy to provide an
[1:41:15]
explanation. He also responded to your
[1:41:28]
question of what a pedo meter is.
[1:41:37]
and a question about dewatering and a
[1:41:40]
question about dewatering to our
[1:41:44]
waterways. That method has not been
[1:41:47]
determined. It can also be removed via
[1:41:50]
truck. The method by dewatering has not
[1:41:54]
been determined. Regardless of the
[1:41:57]
method, the contractor will be required
[1:41:59]
to follow state requirements from the
[1:42:03]
regional quality control board and the
[1:42:06]
city of san mateo. The city has
[1:42:10]
requirements on disposing water as well
[1:42:11]
through their municipal code.
[1:42:14]
I believe derek responded to the
[1:42:15]
hotline,
[1:42:17]
we have received comments about the eir
[1:42:20]
via the hotline, the prime use of the
[1:42:23]
hotline again was during the 2018 rates
[1:42:31]
which I was not involved with and I
[1:42:32]
don't
[1:42:34]
want to necessarily get into that
[1:42:36]
discussion.
[1:42:37]
the hours of construction were
[1:42:38]
addressed,
[1:42:41]
the municipal code does have
[1:42:42]
construction
[1:42:48]
limitations, construction hour
[1:42:49]
limitations and currently the
[1:42:51]
construction is planned to be within
[1:42:52]
those limited hours. I can't tell you
[1:42:55]
specifically if they are going to arrive
[1:42:57]
at 7:00 a.m. And leave at 7:00 p.m.. But
[1:43:01]
I'm currently, the construction is
[1:43:03]
planned to occur within those time
[1:43:04]
limits
[1:43:07]
established by the cities municipal
[1:43:08]
code.
[1:43:16]
and there was a question about
[1:43:22]
consultation with native-american
[1:43:23]
heritage commission. We did follow the
[1:43:26]
requirements established by assembly
[1:43:27]
bill
[1:43:33]
52 and there is a state consultation
[1:43:34]
with
[1:43:36]
tribes and letters and phone calls were
[1:43:38]
made and there were no tribes in the
[1:43:39]
area
[1:43:42]
that requested consultation. We did
[1:43:43]
receive one letter from the heritage
[1:43:46]
commission on the draft eir and that
[1:43:47]
will
[1:43:48]
be addressed through the mechanism of
[1:43:49]
the
[1:43:52]
final eir. That I think addresses the
[1:43:54]
bulk of the questions that you had.
[1:44:05]
>> I don't know if tonight is the night
[1:44:07]
to answer, but there is a question about
[1:44:09]
the table in the eir and talk about a
[1:44:12]
traffic study.
[1:44:13]
>> I'm sorry, you are right. That is a
[1:44:14]
question that I will have to research a
[1:44:17]
little bit further. I know that when the
[1:44:19]
eir was prepared, we did not have recent
[1:44:23]
date accounts on the roadways in the
[1:44:25]
area. So we used the materials that were
[1:44:27]
available. So I will have to go back and
[1:44:29]
take a look at that at that table to see
[1:44:33]
if we have updated counts and could
[1:44:37]
possibly update that analysis.
[1:44:38]
>> could I just ask of staff when the
[1:44:44]
station park green development went in,
[1:44:48]
assumed there was traffic data for that
[1:44:53]
area, right?
[1:44:54]
>> yes, but as you recall when station
[1:44:56]
park green went through the development
[1:44:58]
review process, it was during the
[1:45:02]
recession. So the traffic counts were
[1:45:05]
low.
[1:45:06]
>> what year was it?
[1:45:07]
>> it was probably around (2) 011-2012.
[1:45:13]
those were more current. It just jumped
[1:45:16]
out to me that it was 14 years old. And
[1:45:20]
in response to comments, we can update
[1:45:22]
the traffic counts in terms of what is
[1:45:25]
actually occurring on the ground. So
[1:45:26]
most
[1:45:45]
of the conversation tonight has been
[1:45:49]
about the draft environmental impact
[1:45:52]
report. The eir document, but we as a
[1:45:54]
planning commission can talk about the
[1:45:56]
design. I'm wondering if you have given
[1:46:01]
any thought to that or have comments or
[1:46:04]
questions?
[1:46:05]
>> I have a question for staff. In your
[1:46:07]
report you indicated there is a project
[1:46:10]
being done at the pacifica community
[1:46:13]
center. What methods are they using to
[1:46:16]
construct their project. Also on the
[1:46:17]
page
[1:46:18]
that you showed us, there was also a
[1:46:24]
sound barrier constructed as well. What
[1:46:28]
sound levels were shared with those
[1:46:35]
residents?
[1:46:36]
>> I don't have the construction. I only
[1:46:38]
have the photos that I shared and that's
[1:46:42]
the detail that I know.
[1:46:44]
>> any other comment?
[1:46:45]
>> I can make a comment on the design. I
[1:46:48]
guess I should go back. It's very
[1:46:55]
difficult, we got the information on
[1:46:57]
thursday. I know some of the residents
[1:47:00]
commented that they got it on friday.
[1:47:03]
it's not a long time to look at large
[1:47:07]
amounts of data. I feel very fortunate
[1:47:09]
that I was around on the public works
[1:47:11]
commission when this whole project was
[1:47:14]
being discussed and being developed and
[1:47:15]
we saw a lot of stuff from the seattle
[1:47:19]
trip that you all went on and got
[1:47:25]
information, real life information from
[1:47:26]
cities that were going through it. So,
[1:47:30]
this is an awful lot to take in over 4-5
[1:47:37]
days. So, I think it would have been
[1:47:40]
helpful to have a presentation on this,
[1:47:43]
just presentation only to the planning
[1:47:45]
commission to sort of give some
[1:47:48]
background that would make it a lot
[1:47:53]
easier for us to analyze what's in the
[1:47:56]
eir based on the thought process that
[1:47:57]
was
[1:47:58]
gone through to develop the program
[1:48:00]
because it was a very detailed process,
[1:48:05]
and it's very beneficial to have that
[1:48:18]
process. I looked through the plans of
[1:48:22]
the building and the bay meadows is a
[1:48:28]
very appealing community, and it would
[1:48:29]
be
[1:48:32]
great if the building can look like the
[1:48:34]
houses in the area rather than the brick
[1:48:38]
so it blends more with the surrounding.
[1:48:40]
but that would be my only comment on the
[1:48:45]
structures because I admit, I wasn't
[1:48:50]
aware we were discussing the actual
[1:48:53]
aesthetic of the building. So I did take
[1:48:56]
a quick look, but it's only a quick
[1:48:57]
look.
[1:49:08]
>> so I have a few questions that relate
[1:49:11]
to other aspects of the project beside
[1:49:15]
the environmental document. There is
[1:49:17]
fencing proposed along saratoga and the
[1:49:21]
adjoining property line with the bay
[1:49:24]
meadows park. The documents we have say
[1:49:31]
-- is it an 8 or 6-foot. An 8-foot fence
[1:49:41]
and concrete wall. I think we can
[1:49:44]
provide direction as to which we would
[1:49:47]
prefer. Whether we prefer a metal, or
[1:49:56]
even wood.
[1:49:57]
>> through the chair if I can make a
[1:49:59]
comment. Right now the city and the
[1:50:03]
county and also the events that are in
[1:50:07]
negotiations on the screening material
[1:50:08]
whether it's going to be a cme wall or a
[1:50:12]
fence. That will most likely be part of
[1:50:15]
the easement negotiation that's being
[1:50:20]
taken now.
[1:50:21]
>> so, the planning commission can still
[1:50:32]
provide their preference and I don't
[1:50:33]
know
[1:50:34]
what will come of that at the moment.
[1:50:36]
>> okay, any preference?
[1:50:50]
>> not metal.
[1:50:52]
>> my comments is that what we have on
[1:50:54]
the other side of saratoga, and that
[1:51:00]
until the landscaping has reached a
[1:51:03]
certain maturity, it's going to feel
[1:51:04]
like
[1:51:05]
you are driving down the freeway with
[1:51:06]
two
[1:51:07]
sound walls. That was my comment there.
[1:51:11]
also this site plan had a location of
[1:51:12]
the
[1:51:17]
air exhaust. It was labeled as 16 inches
[1:51:20]
diameter and 10 feet tall and it's
[1:51:27]
located fairly adjacent to the sidewalk,
[1:51:31]
the public sidewalk. Is there any
[1:51:35]
latitude as to where that air exhaust
[1:51:38]
people can be located? Perhaps further
[1:51:41]
away from the public right-of-way?
[1:51:43]
>> we'll have to work with the engineer
[1:51:45]
of design and determine if that is
[1:51:50]
feasible.
[1:51:51]
>> and is there only one of those air
[1:51:57]
exhaust?
[1:51:58]
>> from my recollection of the plans and
[1:52:00]
I don't have it in front of me right
[1:52:01]
now,
[1:52:02]
I believe there should only be one.
[1:52:03]
>> okay. And then it was indicated that
[1:52:16]
there would be many at grade hatches. Do
[1:52:19]
we have how many of those. I know you
[1:52:22]
showed them in your presentation.
[1:52:24]
>> not at the moment. We are currently
[1:52:34]
passed 60% design and optimizing the
[1:52:37]
location of those vaults.
[1:52:41]
>> one of the public comment letters
[1:52:52]
posed the question about if there was a
[1:52:55]
spare the air, would construction
[1:52:56]
proceed
[1:52:59]
as normal or would construction recede
[1:53:00]
at
[1:53:13]
that time?
[1:53:14]
>> I don't have a response for that, but
[1:53:16]
we can take that into consideration.
[1:53:19]
>> okay, and the staff report talked
[1:53:22]
about as many as 200 vehicle trips per
[1:53:27]
day during the construction period. How
[1:53:31]
do we get a number that high and what
[1:53:33]
would the majority of them be the reason
[1:53:38]
for?
[1:53:39]
>> I would have to call in heather for
[1:53:42]
this. She has the number. There is a
[1:53:45]
separation of truck trips associated
[1:53:46]
with
[1:53:48]
the underground structure and truck
[1:53:49]
trips
[1:53:51]
associated with the pipeline
[1:53:52]
construction
[1:53:53]
that total the numbers that you stated.
[1:53:56]
>> right, the estimators for the
[1:54:04]
project and designers, we did our best
[1:54:06]
assessment of the type of construction,
[1:54:09]
the duration of construction, and the
[1:54:10]
types of equipment that would be
[1:54:11]
required
[1:54:16]
to not only build the holding structure
[1:54:19]
and the associated facilities but also
[1:54:21]
the pipeline. So the peak daily, we
[1:54:24]
don't have an average for each of the
[1:54:27]
different elements, but rather we
[1:54:28]
analyzed what is going to be the worse
[1:54:35]
case scenario on any given day but this
[1:54:38]
is maximum that would occur on any given
[1:54:41]
day. We estimated a total of 100 truck
[1:54:44]
trips and that would mean haul trucks,
[1:54:50]
bringing or removing, bringing equipment
[1:54:53]
and supplies or removing excavated soil.
[1:54:57]
for the holding structure and we are
[1:54:59]
expecting approximately 30 workers on
[1:55:01]
site. So we estimated a total of 60
[1:55:04]
truck trips for those 30 workers. A
[1:55:05]
truck
[1:55:08]
trip is one trip in and one trip out. 30
[1:55:13]
workers would generate 30 work trips,
[1:55:14]
one
[1:55:16]
in and one out.
[1:55:18]
the pipeline construction we are
[1:55:19]
expecting a peak of 30 heavy truck trips
[1:55:22]
per day, and 8 workers on a daily basis
[1:55:26]
for a total of 16 truck trips per day
[1:55:27]
for
[1:55:32]
a combined total of 206 truck trips or
[1:55:36]
206 trips on a peak day.
[1:55:39]
so, just to point out, a point of
[1:55:45]
clarification, howe, the environmental
[1:55:46]
document assessed a truck trip as a 1.5
[1:55:50]
passenger car equivalent. So for folks
[1:55:52]
who are reviewing the eir, they are
[1:55:53]
going
[1:55:54]
to see a peak number of combined trips
[1:55:55]
at
[1:56:00]
271, but that is because the truck trips
[1:56:02]
that are holding the structure are
[1:56:05]
estimated at 150 passenger car
[1:56:09]
equivalence and a 45 passenger care
[1:56:18]
equivalence.
[1:56:19]
>> okay, based on what you told us, the
[1:56:21]
pipe line project is it going to run
[1:56:28]
concurrent with the the construction of
[1:56:30]
the tank?
[1:56:32]
>> that is going to be a shorter line.
[1:56:33]
we
[1:56:36]
are estimating about 13 months for the
[1:56:39]
construction of the pipeline, but there
[1:56:43]
will be concurrent construction.
[1:56:44]
>> okay.
[1:56:45]
>> for a total construction duration of
[1:56:50]
25 months, expected construction
[1:56:51]
duration
[1:56:52]
of 25 months for the entire project,
[1:56:54]
pipeline and holding structure.
[1:57:02]
>> and then there was a comment tonight
[1:57:05]
by the public and I don't think it's
[1:57:07]
going to involve you, heather, you can
[1:57:12]
sit down. I remember reading it in the
[1:57:17]
online comments about looking at
[1:57:23]
installing a new pedestrian gate
[1:57:26]
between the bay meadows park and the
[1:57:27]
parking lot at the center that take the
[1:57:33]
shuttles to their jobs in the area. If
[1:57:42]
we do nothing, a possible safety issue.
[1:57:47]
>> that component for having an access
[1:57:49]
gate between the gate center and bay
[1:57:52]
meadows is not considered as part of
[1:57:53]
this
[1:57:56]
project, but dana is here to talk about
[1:58:01]
discussions with the recreation and
[1:58:02]
parks
[1:58:07]
department.
[1:58:10]
>> sheila and I have discussed and with
[1:58:13]
the issues with the center and the city.
[1:58:15]
one would be to create an access gate
[1:58:16]
for
[1:58:18]
those folks that are currently using the
[1:58:20]
soccer feeds as a relief measure for the
[1:58:29]
congestion on 28 and we are developing a
[1:58:32]
process to do that so that's in
[1:58:36]
conversation.
[1:58:37]
relative to the commuters, the google
[1:58:38]
and
[1:58:39]
facebook commuters that we host, that
[1:58:43]
traffic is automobile traffic coming
[1:58:48]
through the saratoga entrance. City
[1:58:49]
staff and I have worked through the
[1:58:51]
processes in which that won't be
[1:58:54]
interrupted based on times when buses
[1:58:59]
arrive and leave. It has to do with
[1:59:01]
commuter traffic making sure that if
[1:59:02]
there is a way that we can alleviate and
[1:59:08]
enhance safety for not only kids playing
[1:59:21]
in the park. The access is open to
[1:59:24]
delaware. It would be open for the park.
[1:59:26]
the access would be twofold and one
[1:59:27]
fore
[1:59:30]
soccer and for bay meadows residents or
[1:59:34]
any san mateo residents that are going
[1:59:36]
through the parking lot. Does that help
[1:59:39]
clarify that?
[1:59:40]
>> it's under negotiation?
[1:59:41]
>> right, we are working on that
[1:59:45]
separately. And then not a part of this
[1:59:49]
project. Thank you.
[2:00:14]
>> derek, in the work that you did with
[2:00:20]
seattle, did they ever address the
[2:00:23]
vibration and the noise issues? Were you
[2:00:27]
there to see it?
[2:00:32]
>> not to my recollection. The noise
[2:00:39]
issues in seattle, they were completed
[2:00:40]
or
[2:00:42]
not active construction sites.
[2:00:46]
>> I would be really interested to know
[2:00:49]
from them what their experience was on
[2:00:51]
this because theirs is a similar
[2:00:55]
situation with structures right there on
[2:00:56]
top of what it is they were building. So
[2:00:58]
I would be interested to know if the
[2:01:02]
structures were there when it was built
[2:01:05]
or if the structures came after it was
[2:01:07]
built. What the impact on those
[2:01:10]
structures was during their construction
[2:01:13]
because that's great information to get
[2:01:16]
from them, also from pacifica as well
[2:01:18]
since they have a neighborhood right
[2:01:20]
behind theirs. What sort of things were
[2:01:25]
they encountering during their
[2:01:30]
construction. I also would like to know
[2:01:34]
who is responsible, and who holds the
[2:01:51]
bill at the end. People commented that
[2:01:54]
the contractors shouldn't do the decibel
[2:01:56]
level, but if it is the contractors
[2:01:57]
doing
[2:02:00]
the work, who is responsible for it and
[2:02:02]
the damage and how would the city handle
[2:02:05]
it. I would like to know what the
[2:02:06]
thought
[2:02:09]
process is behind it. People mentioned
[2:02:13]
other construction methods. Are there
[2:02:18]
other construction methods, I don't know
[2:02:20]
about building something like that and I
[2:02:22]
know you probably looked at all the
[2:02:25]
different options.
[2:02:26]
>> I'm not too sure what other
[2:02:28]
construction methods the public comment
[2:02:32]
shared tonight other than methods of the
[2:02:36]
pipe. I'm not too sure about what other
[2:02:40]
alternatives.
[2:02:41]
>> have you investigated all of that in
[2:02:45]
your planning?
[2:02:46]
>> the design team has evaluated several
[2:02:50]
options for construction.
[2:02:51]
>> so they chose this method that's been
[2:02:54]
considered in the eir?
[2:03:01]
>> I would have to rely on heather for
[2:03:12]
that.
[2:03:13]
>> I'm sorry, can you repeat the
[2:03:14]
question?
[2:03:15]
>> my question is are there other
[2:03:16]
options
[2:03:18]
for putting supports down into the
[2:03:19]
ground
[2:03:21]
to support the tank. I'm not a
[2:03:24]
construction person so I'm not going to
[2:03:26]
say it right, but are there other
[2:03:27]
methods
[2:03:30]
other than driving piles or is that the
[2:03:32]
only method that's available to us? I
[2:03:35]
just want to understand how far along we
[2:03:37]
are in the process if it's already been
[2:03:39]
decided because that's the best option,
[2:03:42]
would like to know that. And if there
[2:03:43]
are
[2:03:46]
other options why weren't they selected?
[2:03:49]
>> so, I'm not the best person to answer
[2:03:53]
that either. I'm not a geotechnical
[2:03:56]
expert, I'm not a structural engineer,
[2:03:59]
I'm not an engineer. That would be a
[2:04:02]
better question for our structural folks
[2:04:04]
who are not here tonight.
[2:04:08]
>> I would be interested the know.
[2:04:13]
>> the eir did not evaluate other
[2:04:19]
construction methods. So we don't have a
[2:04:21]
construction evaluation. Based on the
[2:04:25]
geotechnical analysis and I'm venturing
[2:04:28]
into an area that I'm not an expert on,
[2:04:30]
this was the method to build a
[2:04:33]
structurally sound structure. So I would
[2:04:35]
say we can take that back to our team to
[2:04:38]
see what other terms fof method of
[2:04:44]
foundation have been explored and
[2:04:45]
provide
[2:04:46]
and answer for you.
[2:04:48]
>> I was just curious. I know a lot of
[2:04:53]
work has been done. It doesn't involve a
[2:04:57]
long answer. I'm just curious as to
[2:04:58]
other
[2:05:03]
options. Thank you.
[2:05:13]
>> I have a question for heather. You
[2:05:17]
were discussing other site location
[2:05:20]
options? What are they?
[2:05:23]
>> that was covered in the earlier
[2:05:29]
sites. There were 55 sites.
[2:05:31]
>> other sites. Okay, I interpreted
[2:05:33]
there were other site locations on the
[2:05:38]
event center parking area.
[2:05:39]
>> not within the center parking area.
[2:05:42]
this location through discussions with
[2:05:43]
the event center was the only feasible
[2:05:45]
location that they were willing to work
[2:05:47]
with the city on.
[2:05:50]
>> okay.
[2:05:56]
>> anything more? So let me ask a
[2:05:58]
question of city staff. I will start
[2:06:01]
there. So trying to understand what the
[2:06:04]
public talked about with respect to the
[2:06:08]
caltrain construction at 25th, that's
[2:06:18]
under the jurisdiction of caltrain which
[2:06:22]
is a regional entity, and what we are
[2:06:25]
talking about tonight, the underground
[2:06:30]
flow equalization storage is entirely a
[2:06:36]
city, a municipal project with the
[2:06:38]
exception of the easement that we are
[2:06:39]
asking for from the county for its
[2:06:43]
location. So we have what I'm getting
[2:06:50]
at is the midnight 2:00 a.m.
[2:06:51]
construction
[2:06:52]
that went on with caltrain, and that we
[2:06:57]
have more control with this project
[2:06:58]
because it's a city project in terms of
[2:07:01]
the hours of construction.
[2:07:02]
>> this project would be coming to the
[2:07:05]
city for a special use permit and a site
[2:07:08]
plan and architectural review and there
[2:07:10]
will be conditions of approval
[2:07:11]
associated
[2:07:12]
with those. So the construction hours
[2:07:14]
will be addressed in the conditions of
[2:07:19]
approval.
[2:07:20]
>> okay. Then one other question, by
[2:07:34]
calculations, the electrical building is
[2:07:36]
37 feet long by 16 feet wide and a
[2:07:37]
little
[2:07:41]
over 13 feet tall. Does that sound about
[2:07:46]
right? Okay. And then the underground
[2:07:50]
storage area is a little over 200 feet
[2:07:51]
by
[2:07:54]
a little less than 150 feet in planned
[2:08:04]
mention and it was mentioned earlier
[2:08:05]
that
[2:08:09]
the depth of the storage was probably 50
[2:08:12]
feet but that we would have to excavate
[2:08:16]
25 feet below that in order to install
[2:08:21]
the structure?
[2:08:22]
>> the depth of the structure is
[2:08:23]
anywhere
[2:08:26]
from 32-50 feet. The bottom of it slopes
[2:08:29]
to facilitate the cleaning mechanism. In
[2:08:33]
terms of over excavation, I don't have
[2:08:34]
that information with me right now.
[2:08:42]
>> okay.
[2:08:43]
so we are onto comments? You are
[2:08:48]
finished. Comments? You are good. Well
[2:08:53]
my input would be that based on the
[2:09:05]
quantity of input we got from the public
[2:09:07]
and pretty much a consistent message
[2:09:08]
that
[2:09:15]
the project needs to go back and look at
[2:09:22]
an alternate method of construction and
[2:09:27]
avoid the pile of driving and the sheet
[2:09:31]
pile construction that were delineated
[2:09:32]
in
[2:09:34]
the environmental document. I think, I
[2:09:36]
agree with the residents. That's
[2:09:45]
unacceptable impacts to those homes, and
[2:09:48]
especially given the duration of this
[2:09:51]
project. That's it. Just to remind
[2:10:03]
everyone, you have until may 7 to submit
[2:10:07]
further comments and questions. We had
[2:10:11]
an e-mail address I think on the screen
[2:10:12]
at the end of the presentation. And
[2:10:20]
those concerns are to my understanding
[2:10:22]
will be addressed in the final
[2:10:25]
environmental impact report document
[2:10:27]
before it comes back to planning
[2:10:29]
commission and then onto city council.
[2:10:32]
so, thank you, everyone. If you could
[2:11:07]
take your conversation to the lobby. We
[2:11:09]
have to wrap up our meeting tonight.
[2:11:13]
thank you. So, a couple things. Romero
[2:11:23]
never got this document. It was passed
[2:11:26]
out at our last planning commission
[2:11:28]
meeting and he was absent. And then also
[2:11:30]
there was mention of a thumb drive with
[2:11:34]
some additional studies, we didn't get
[2:11:38]
that and I wasn't aware that that was
[2:11:44]
available.
[2:11:45]
>> I wasn't aware that a thumb drive was
[2:11:47]
available.
[2:11:48]
>> sometimes in the past we have gotten
[2:11:50]
cd at the back of the draft
[2:11:51]
environmental
[2:11:54]
impact report that we can look at.
[2:11:58]
>> I think another reason that we
[2:12:01]
included the link in the staff report is
[2:12:03]
that those technical studies are
[2:12:05]
available on the website. I realize that
[2:12:07]
is not a substitute for having a hard
[2:12:11]
copy. It's a little late now.
[2:12:19]
[ laughter ]
[2:12:26]
we apologize. You are correct, they were
[2:12:30]
handed out at the last planning
[2:12:33]
commission meeting. We can follow up on
[2:12:36]
the thumb drive, but again, that's the
[2:12:38]
reason we also included the link on the
[2:12:40]
staff report to the web page which has
[2:12:46]
the document.
[2:12:52]
>> okay.
[2:12:53]
>> from a planning point, we could have
[2:12:56]
handled it better.
[2:12:57]
>> I'm looking at page 3 of the staff
[2:13:01]
report where it lists attachment 8, the
[2:13:07]
geotechnical report. I had heard
[2:13:09]
references to that but I didn't know how
[2:13:11]
to get it.
[2:13:12]
>> if you go to the website listed in
[2:13:13]
the
[2:13:15]
staff report. It's got all of those
[2:13:19]
technical opinions.
[2:13:20]
>> can I add a statement of
[2:13:27]
clarification. The report is in the
[2:13:30]
attachments to the copies you received.
[2:13:33]
the phase 1 site assessment in
[2:13:34]
attachment
[2:13:37]
e is a 400 plus page document. So we
[2:13:38]
just
[2:13:42]
took the summary section of that
[2:13:47]
report and the remainder of that report
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is available in full on the website. If
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there is a request for that report to be
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sent to you directly, please let me
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know.
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>> I think at this point since we closed
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the public hearing, if there are
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procedural questions about how can we
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get
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the documents, we can answer them if
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there are questions about the documents
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themselves, I think that would be better
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handled in a public setting since we
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closed the public hearing.
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>> yeah. Okay.
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>> okay. There are no off the record
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questions at a public hearing.
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but really, we have closed the public
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hearing on this item. If there is more
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information, we can forward it to the
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planning commission. If there is
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anything more, we have a may 6 deadline.
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for making comments. I think since we
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closed the public hearing, we should
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move
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onto other business.
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>> reports and announcements.
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>> okay, let's see, on april 15th, the
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city council will be holding a public
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hearing on the modifications to the
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water
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quality control plant that the
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commission
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heard earlier in march.
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if you happen to be at the extravaganza
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on saturday april 20th, we'll have a
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book
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on the efforts that the city has entered
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into with the county to provide
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affordable housing issues. It's mainly
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informational as well as a general plan
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information booth. We'll be there that
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day.
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at your next meeting april 23rd, there
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will be a study session on the
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mid-peninsula proposal and the new
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downtown parking garage and the former
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redevelopment sites downtown.
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additionally we will have the return of
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the kerry school modification. I can't
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recall which commissioners were on the
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commission when we heard it in study
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session.
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saturday, april 27th, again the city has
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entered into an agreement with home for
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all through the county of san mateo to
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provide a forum for a housing
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discussions
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outside of a specific general plan
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discussion, outside of the discussion on
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a specific development project. Home for
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all will be facilitating discussions at
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this meeting which will be from 930-1130
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at san mateo high school in the
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cafeteria. The hope is that not only in
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attendance will be people that are
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normally involved in housing issues, but
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people that are not normally involved in
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civic affairs. That is the reason we are
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going to the eggs extravaganza and city
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staff will be setting up and phil's
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coffee shop downtown. The commission is
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welcome for all to come saturday but in
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the guise of being observers rather than
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participants. In the may 14 and 28, we
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do have planned planning commission
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meetings. We have items on those
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agendas.
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so, those would include a review of the
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bay meadows annual development
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agreement,
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as well as a return of the windy hill
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project on the program and construction.
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that's what we have in may for the
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planning commission. That concludes
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staff announcements.
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>> did you want to give an update on the
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432 virginia avenue?
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>> yes, we have responded. Now, if you
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can recollect, did you get cc'ed on the
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staff response, there is a building
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permit, the results of the building
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permit indicate and we've had an
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inspection on the property and the work
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is within the scope. We have sent a
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letter to the property owner and
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indicated that it is a permit issue for
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the single family dwelling and in the
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code that include the single family
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dwelling and the definition of dwelling
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and I will provide a copy of that letter
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to you shortly after adjournment.
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>> okay. Any announcements?
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we are adjourned.
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>> okay. Any announcements?