Regular Meeting of City Council -Tustin Legacy

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[0:50] CLOSED SESSION MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
[0:53] CALL TO ORDER – #3083
[0:59] ROLL CALL - City Clerk
[1:05] PUBLIC INPUT - Members of the public may provide comments in writing, in person or in real time via Zoom to address the City Council on items on the Closed Session Agenda.
[1:21] CLOSED SESSION UPDATE - City Attorney David E. Kendig
[2:40] REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE COUNCIL ACTING IN ITS CAPACITY AS THE LOCAL REUSE AUTHORITY
[2:42] CALL TO ORDER – #3083
[2:49] INVOCATION - Deacon John Reza, St. Cecilia Church
[4:16] PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE – Mayor Pro Tem Nielsen
[5:04] PUBLIC INPUT – At this time, any member of the public may address the Council on matters which are not on this evening’s agenda, provided the matter is within the subject matter jurisdiction of the City Council.
[5:42] CLOSED SESSION REPORT – City Attorney David E. Kendig
[5:52] REGULAR BUSINESS
[6:21] DEVELOPMENT UPDATES FROM FORMER MARINE CORPS AIR STATION TUSTIN PROPERTY RECIPIENTS Receive a historical base closure/Local Reuse Authority designation summary and status presentations from the public/non-profit entities responsible for development at former Marine Corps Air Station Tustin now known as Tustin Legacy.
[2:01:22] OTHER BUSINESS/CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY
[2:01:30] MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS AND REPORTS
[2:03:02] COUNCIL MEMBER FINK
[2:03:22] COUNCIL MEMBER SCHNELL
[2:03:29] COUNCIL MEMBER GALLAGHER
[2:03:32] MAYOR PRO TEM NIELSEN
[2:03:39] MAYOR LUMBARD
[2:04:18] ADJOURNMENT

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[0:55] >> it is 4:31 p.m. Madam city clerk, roll call, please.
[0:57] >> let the record reflect that all members are in attendance.
[1:01] >> thank you. Next we have public input. At this time any
[1:02] member of the public may address the council on matters
[1:04] which are on the closed session
[1:06] agenda. If any members of the public wish to participate on
[1:08] zoom and wish to address the council, please raise your
[1:10] hand. If you are calling in,
[1:12] please press star nine or raise your hand. Madam city clerk,
[1:13] any requests to speak?
[1:16] >> no, mr. Mayor. >> provide the closed session
[1:18] update, mr. City attorney.
[1:19] >> the council will be
[1:20] convening in closed session to
[1:21] discuss item 5 as it appears on the closed session agenda,
[1:25] which includes conference with
[1:27] the city's real property negotiators, aldo schindler,
[1:31] nicole bernard, brian moncrief,
[1:34] and ryan swiontek and â€"
[1:35] >> thank you. We will recess to
[1:37] closed session.
[2:40] >>> the local use authority it
[2:42] is 5:03 p.m. Meeting number 3083. Tonight's invocation is
[2:45] by deacon john reza from st. Cecilia church.
[3:01] >> heavenly father, we gather
[3:03] here this day with hearts full of gratitude for the many
[3:07] blessings you have bestowed upon us. As we begin this
[3:10] meeting we seek your presence
[3:12] among us asking for wisdom, understanding, and clarity in
[3:16] all of our discussions and
[3:18] decisions. Enlighten our minds and open our hearts to the
[3:21] needs of our community guiding us to serve with integrity and
[3:25] compassion. Grant us the discernment to seek the common
[3:28] good above personal interests
[3:31] and the courage to act justly and with humility. May our
[3:34] efforts today contribute to the
[3:37] flourishing of all of our residents reflecting the
[3:40] dignity and respect each person
[3:43] deserves. We ask your blessing
[3:46] upon the city, its leaders, and its people that we may work
[3:49] together in harmony to build a
[3:52] community rooted in love and solidarity. Inspire us to
[3:55] always strive for justice,
[3:58] peace, and the well-being of all. We entrust this meeting to
[4:01] your divine providence, confident in your ongoing
[4:05] guidance and support, and we
[4:06] ask this all through christ our lord, amen.
[4:11] >> thank you, deacon.
[4:12] the pledge of allegiance is by mayor pro tem nielsen.
[4:20] >> [ inaudible ]
[4:26] >> I pledge of allegiance to
[4:29] the flag of the united states
[4:30] of america, and to the republic which it stands, one nation,
[4:32] under god, indivisible, with
[4:35] liberty and justice for all.
[4:44] >> thank you, mr. Mayor pro
[4:46] tem. Before we move on to public input I would like to
[4:48] announce this meeting will be live streamed through this
[4:50] website and via zoom.
[4:53] anyone who is unable to join us
[4:55] in person tonight or needs to leave can watch it on the
[4:58] website can participate through zoom. Next we have public
[5:01] input. At this time any member of the public can address the
[5:03] council on matters which are not on this evening's agenda
[5:05] provided the matter is within
[5:07] the subject matter jurisdiction of the city council. For those
[5:10] of you here tonight and wish to address the council on the
[5:12] development updates of the tustin legacy, we will be
[5:14] taking open public input
[5:17] following the presentations
[5:19] from our partners. Right now it's for any other matters
[5:22] within the city council jurisdiction. If any members of
[5:26] the public are participating
[5:27] through zoom wish to address the council, please raise your
[5:29] hand and if you're calling in, please press star nine to raise
[5:32] your hand. Madam city clerk,
[5:35] any requests to speak? Anybody in person? Okay. We will move
[5:37] on to closed session report. Mr. City attorney.
[5:41] >> the city council took no
[5:44] reportable action.
[5:47] >> thank you, sir. We will next
[5:48] move to regular business. We have one item tonight which is
[5:52] the development updates from the former marine corps air
[5:56] station in tustin property
[5:57] recipients. All of the development partners out here
[6:01] on the base that you drive by and see on a daily basis. This
[6:05] is the third of these meetings
[6:06] we've had in the last five years or so. We're trying to do
[6:08] it on an annual basis, so
[6:10] tonight you will hear some updates of where we've been in
[6:13] last 12 months and what we have left to do. I will give it to
[6:15] the city manager, aldo schindler.
[6:20] >> thank you, mayor and
[6:21] council. It's a pleasure to be here to provide further
[6:23] background on the item and
[6:25] introduce all of our partners this evening. We are excited to
[6:28] host this meeting at flight. One of the success stories of
[6:31] our aformer marine corps air station tustin redevelopment.
[6:34] thank you to my city team and especially the city clerk's
[6:37] office for coordinating logistics tonight. The local
[6:40] reuse authority is one of the many hats the city wears. This
[6:43] federal designation gives the city responsibility for leading
[6:47] the reuse planning and implementation of the former
[6:50] marine corps air station at tustin. From 2002 until
[6:53] february 2021 the local reuse
[6:56] authority did not hold any
[6:58] formal meetings. That changed when the city council invited
[7:01] all of its development partners to share updates on their
[7:04] projects and progress. Following another local reuse
[7:06] authority meeting in 2024 the city council directed staff to
[7:11] hold annual local reuse
[7:12] authority meetings to provide the community with updates from
[7:15] the city and its partners on developing progress. These
[7:21] annual meetings are just one part of the larger dialogue the
[7:23] city and community have
[7:25] embarked on together to shape the future of tustin legacy.
[7:29] the ongoing conversations help ensure development reflects our
[7:32] shared vision and priorities
[7:34] for this important part of tustin's future. For anyone who
[7:35] is interested in hearing more
[7:38] about that process and upcoming
[7:40] outreach events, our outreach team has a booth in the open
[7:44] house after this meeting and
[7:45] can answer any of your questions. For tonight's
[7:47] meeting the city has invited
[7:49] all the agencies that participate in the 2021 and
[7:53] 2024 meetings to join us again.
[7:55] after the presentation portion of the meeting, there will be
[7:58] an open house where you can be the presenters and other
[8:00] stakeholders, ask questions, and get more information. The
[8:02] organizations you will hear
[8:07] from tonight and meet later at the open house are the public
[8:08] agencies or nonprofits that
[8:11] oversee specific types of
[8:12] development projects in line with the reuse plan and a
[8:17] specific plan for tustin legacy. We also have a special
[8:20] guest. George schlossberg, who
[8:23] has been involved since 1991.
[8:26] when the marine corps air station base closure
[8:28] discussions first began. His presentation will look back at
[8:29] how the city became a local
[8:32] reuse authority and highlight
[8:34] key milestones when the city strategically navigated
[8:38] challenges to create the opportunities that we see today
[8:41] at the tustin legacy. The city
[8:44] and our partners will share
[8:47] updates on current and planned development of the remaining
[8:50] property at the tustin legacy.
[8:52] following each presentation the council will have the
[8:53] opportunity to ask questions or
[8:56] seek clarification on any part
[8:59] of that presentation. The public will have an opportunity
[9:01] to comment once all the presentations have been made.
[9:04] the order of the presentations tonight will be george
[9:07] schlossberg, the city special counsel regarding land-use
[9:11] reuse authority at â€" attorneys
[9:13] at law, the orange county rescue mission, the south
[9:16] orange county community college district, rancho santiago
[9:19] community college district, tustin unified school district
[9:20] and the last presentation by
[9:23] the city of tustin. Once the
[9:26] city presentation is concluded, I will then turn it back to the
[9:29] mayor for general council
[9:31] comments and public comments. With that, I would like to
[9:32] invite george schlossberg to
[9:33] come up and give his presentation.
[9:38] >>while george is coming up,
[9:39] just to reiterate what the city manager said. There will be a
[9:43] lot of content thrown at you all and at the council for the
[9:44] next hour and a half to two
[9:46] hours and then you have an opportunity to address the
[9:49] council formally at the microphone. If you don't want
[9:52] to do that, there's an open house afterwards and you can
[9:56] talk to us more informally. I know it can be nerve-racking,
[9:57] especially with the spotlights.
[10:00] george.
[10:08] >> mayor, members of the council, and members of the
[10:12] public, aldo, thank you for the
[10:15] invitation. It has been a long
[10:17] run for me and the city since the department of defense
[10:21] decided to close marine corps
[10:24] air station tustin. As aldo
[10:26] indicated, I've been working with the city since the
[10:30] original closure decision has
[10:32] been made -- was made by the federal government in 1991. I
[10:41] come sort of this by way of penance. In the sense that I
[10:45] assisted the city and others. I
[10:48] was the first base closure
[10:51] counsel for the secretary's
[10:54] office and at that time we assured communities throughout
[10:57] the country that this base
[11:00] closure process would be short, would be simple, and in three
[11:03] years nobody would ever
[11:06] remember that the process had been undertaken, and that is
[11:14] where the word penance comes in, of course, because not one
[11:15] of the things that we testified
[11:18] to the congress about ever came
[11:21] about, which is why all these
[11:23] many years later we are back here. The base closure process
[11:27] is complex. It involves â€" and I
[11:29] will discuss this later â€" these are the largest
[11:33] contiguous parcels of land in
[11:36] the lower 48 that have been
[11:39] available for redevelopment in
[11:42] communities in the last
[11:45] century. And the federal
[11:48] government was not terribly
[11:51] prepared or geared -- they were
[11:52] prepared to close the base, relocate the military
[11:56] activities, but actually dispose and redevelop the land,
[12:00] that was something that was
[12:03] beyond our ken at the time.
[12:09] from a community viewpoint,
[12:12] although these opportunities
[12:15] for cities, states, counties,
[12:18] the local land-use entities to
[12:21] really reimagine the future of
[12:24] their communities because the
[12:27] marine corps air station tustin
[12:30] was 1600 acres in the heart of
[12:32] your city, portions of it in the city of irvine, and it
[12:36] represented a vibrant part of
[12:39] the community. It was an
[12:41] economic engine for the community. Everyone here has no
[12:48] doubt seen the giant hangars
[12:51] that the navy built during
[12:54] world war ii... The base housed
[13:00] the sailors and marines that
[13:03] marched off to world war ii,
[13:06] vietnam, korea, and many other
[13:09] conflicts. And so to actually
[13:12] have the base close, the
[13:18] communities relocated, is both
[13:21] an opportunity and a jolt. But
[13:24] the land itself located where
[13:27] it is, is a tremendous
[13:30] opportunity. It is a uniquely
[13:33] valuable asset, particularly
[13:36] here in tustin. Not all base closure property, some in the
[13:39] desert, some in the mountains,
[13:42] is equally valuable for
[13:45] redevelopment. But this
[13:48] property here, as you know, is
[13:49] uniquely valuable. How did we get to this process?
[13:56] for those of us who lived in the pentagon at that period of
[14:00] time, the world changed in
[14:03] 1990. We were gearing up to
[14:09] fight the cold war, the wall came down, the cold war is
[14:12] over, and the u.s. Government
[14:15] looked at the expenditures, the forestructure and the base
[14:18] structure and made a decision,
[14:21] an all-of-government decision
[14:24] to essentially change the way
[14:27] that the defense department had
[14:30] been structured. And there were
[14:33] political debates, there were discussions, and the base
[14:36] closure process, which was a
[14:39] selection process, probably is not really relevant here now,
[14:42] but it was a very public, open
[14:45] process where bases were racked
[14:48] and stacked against each other
[14:51] and selected for closure. But
[14:56] at the end of the day, when a base was closed, the federal
[15:00] government was then left with
[15:02] the decision what to do with the land because it was
[15:06] federally owned land. Some of it was exclusive federal
[15:09] jurisdiction, some of it was
[15:12] within the cities and from land-use control was controlled
[15:15] by the cities, but most, if not
[15:18] all -- not all, but most of it
[15:20] was utterly exclusive jurisdiction and could be done
[15:24] with as the federal government decided. In 1991 when the base
[15:30] closure commission first
[15:33] decided to close marine corps
[15:36] air station tustin, the city of
[15:39] tustin did not support it,
[15:42] didn't oppose it, was very
[15:45] concerned and very active in
[15:48] the role with the department of
[15:51] the navy, the department of the marine corps, the base closure
[15:54] commission, the defense
[15:56] department, your congressional delegations, as to what to do
[16:00] with it. But ultimately the
[16:03] commission adopted the recommendations of the
[16:06] department and said close the
[16:08] base. There have been five rounds of base closures. 1988,
[16:12] 1991, 1993, 1995, 2005. After 1991 it was a foregone
[16:15] conclusion that as a matter of
[16:18] law marine corps air station
[16:22] must close. However, in 1993,
[16:25] the navy did something
[16:27] unprecedented in the base closure world. They went back
[16:31] to the 1993 commission and
[16:34] said, do not close marine corps
[16:37] air station tustin. We made a
[16:39] mistake, the structure for a variety of reasons we need the
[16:45] runways at marine corps air station tustin. At that point
[16:49] the city of tustin was well
[16:52] into the planning process
[16:55] deciding what could be done,
[16:57] what could be benefited here in the city. What are the uses
[17:01] that the land could be put to.
[17:04] and the city -- just like the
[17:06] navy made an unprecedented decision â€" the city made an
[17:10] unprecedented decision in that
[17:13] the city appeared -- we all
[17:15] appeared before the base closure commission and said
[17:19] stay the course. We were not
[17:22] happy when you made the first decision, but we have decided
[17:24] to live with it. Close the base. And over the objections
[17:28] of the defense department and the navy the base closure
[17:31] commission kept the base
[17:34] closed, so that book was closed
[17:37] in 1993, and as a matter of law
[17:40] the closure was mandated. That
[17:49] gets to the question of what happens. It was a drawn out
[17:52] process of actually closing the
[17:55] base, draw down the
[17:57] forestructure, relocating the military assets, and the land
[18:04] was, you know, was vacant. At
[18:07] that time for the first three
[18:09] rounds of base closures, '88, '91, and '93, the federal
[18:13] government had no comprehensive
[18:16] disposal process for these large parcels of land. The
[18:19] federal disposal process, you
[18:22] know, borne out of the surplus equipment of world war ii was
[18:25] used selling jeeps and surplus
[18:28] military vehicles and didn't
[18:31] have the â€" really the ability
[18:34] or the planning capability to plan for the economic
[18:40] revitalization. And the congress insisted that the
[18:45] reuse of the land be used to replace lost jobs. The statute
[18:51] mandated job generation to replace the jobs that the
[18:55] community lost. I mean, many
[18:58] communities, they were economic
[19:01] engine was ripped out and it
[19:04] was very difficult to recover.
[19:07] in 1993 the city of tustin,
[19:10] together with several other
[19:13] cities, we banded together with the association of defense
[19:16] communities and proposed
[19:19] legislation to the congress to establish a comprehensive base
[19:25] closure disposal process that would put the communities in
[19:28] charge. Whoever was the
[19:31] land-use jurisdiction that
[19:32] would inherit the land when the military was gone, would guide
[19:37] and govern how the disposal process would take place. And
[19:43] there were two seminal parts of
[19:46] that. One is, we created a
[19:49] federal entity called a local
[19:52] redevelopment authority, that
[19:55] the local city or county or
[19:58] state, could petition to
[20:01] become. The city of tustin was
[20:04] the first lra to step forward
[20:07] volunteered to become an lra and they were recognized by the
[20:10] secretary of defense as a local
[20:13] redevelopment authority for
[20:16] marine corps air station tustin. There are
[20:19] responsibilities that come with
[20:22] an lra. The lra is obligated to put together a comprehensive
[20:25] plan for the entirety of the
[20:28] base that balances the needs of
[20:31] the community, economic
[20:34] development, homeless needs,
[20:40] schools, parks, recreation, and all of community must be there
[20:46] and it is a balancing activity that was reviewed by agencies
[20:52] of the federal government, the department of health and human
[20:55] services had to review the plan
[20:58] and approve it. The department of housing and urban
[21:01] development, hud, had to review and approve the plan. On the
[21:04] screen is the initial plan
[21:10] designed by the city of tustin
[21:13] for the reuse balancing and
[21:16] during that balancing process the city entertained
[21:19] applications from entities,
[21:24] public entities, local school districts. We would like to put
[21:28] an elementary school, high
[21:31] school, middle school, park
[21:34] recreation, the county applied
[21:38] for property, it could not all be enough by public uses
[21:40] because we had to provide a
[21:43] sufficient number of jobs to
[21:46] replace those that had been
[21:56] lost. Ultimately, the city put
[22:02] together a plan, but in order
[22:05] to implement that plan, it has
[22:08] to go through the nepa process
[22:11] the ceqa process that you are
[22:14] familiar with and the city
[22:17] agreed to undertake both the
[22:19] federal process, nepa, as opposed to having the federal
[22:23] government do it and the
[22:25] california process, ceqa, and it was a joint nepa/ceqa study
[22:32] to do that. And it was a
[22:35] one-of-a-kind, first of a kind,
[22:37] funded by the department of defense through oea grants.
[22:41] as I indicated, the new federal
[22:47] disposal law not only created
[22:50] local redevelopment authorities, it also gave the
[22:53] communities an opportunity to
[22:56] acquire the property and
[23:02] implement that vision. Because once the plan is done, it is
[23:05] still federal land. So all you
[23:07] have is a land-use plan owned by the federal government. How
[23:12] do you implement that? And, again, the federal government
[23:16] was used to auctioning the property. So the initial vision
[23:20] was you planned it, we now put it on the auction block -- 1100
[23:26] acres to the high bidder. And
[23:31] that was not a very - a good way to make a plan as complex
[23:37] as the tustin reuse plan into reality. So the second thing
[23:38] that the community
[23:41] redevelopment act that new
[23:42] statute that we helped to author, the city helped the
[23:47] author, allows for thing called
[23:52] an economic development conveyance. That is the
[23:53] government will convey the
[23:56] property to the lra and only
[23:59] the lra and on a sole-source
[24:02] basis, and the lra is obligated
[24:05] as a matter of law to implement its plan. You put together the
[24:08] plan, we will give you the
[24:11] opportunity to actually put
[24:14] that plan into effect. Now, the
[24:20] federal government is not in
[24:23] the business of giving away valuable assets. I think people
[24:29] here in this area are aware of
[24:32] the value of land, and there
[24:35] were very very long
[24:38] negotiations between the city
[24:41] and the navy and the department
[24:47] of defense as to how to achieve the plan, fulfill the vision
[24:50] that hud had approved, that hhs
[24:53] had approved, dod had approved, that the city had proffered,
[24:56] and still financed the
[24:58] infrastructure and everything else necessary to make that
[25:04] plan become a reality. And there are various different
[25:08] mechanisms. The city chose
[25:11] something that I think is
[25:14] probably most beneficial. And
[25:17] that is, the city essentially carved out a portion of the
[25:20] base and let the federal
[25:22] government with the city's plan zoning and entitlement sell
[25:30] that and the city acquired the rest of the property at no cost
[25:32] for development. Going to the
[25:41] future there are opportunities
[25:47] for a new planning as we
[25:53] understand. Not all of the
[25:55] property that is to come to the city by way of the economic
[25:58] development conveyance agreement has, in fact, been --
[26:04] the federal government is obligated to remediate property
[26:08] under various federal environment statutes before
[26:11] they can sign a deed. So that
[26:13] property, which was remediated, was conveyed to the city by
[26:17] deed. That property which was
[26:18] not then remediated and some of which is still not remediated,
[26:23] was conveyed by a long-term lease. Some of the
[26:26] property at the former base is
[26:29] owned by the city, some of it
[26:32] is leased to the city. Some of it, however, was not part of
[26:38] the edc agreement. The south
[26:41] hangar is â€" was part of the
[26:44] original edc conveyance. It has
[26:47] not been remediated. It has
[26:50] been leased to the city. The
[26:53] city has custody and control of
[26:56] the property. The north hangar,
[26:59] the one that burned down, was not part of the edc agreement.
[27:02] the city never took control of
[27:04] that property, never took custody of that property, had
[27:08] no legal rights to the property. But under the reuse
[27:11] plan that property was
[27:14] originally slated to become a
[27:17] county regional park. The county applied for the
[27:20] property, they were going to establish a regional county
[27:21] park, which the city approved
[27:23] their application in the reuse
[27:27] plan. But over the years the
[27:29] county had changed its plan and they withdrew that application,
[27:33] so that 87 acres where the
[27:36] north hangar burned down is not
[27:42] planned currently. Within the
[27:44] federal process for the reuse plan. It is planned as a county
[27:47] regional park but there is no one to implement that vision.
[27:52] so one of the things that the city is now able to do is, as
[27:57] the local redevelopment authority, is to recast the
[28:03] vision for that 87-acre parcel
[28:06] of property. The city still
[28:08] retains its role as the lra that was granted to the city
[28:12] over 20 years ago. You have the
[28:15] ability to revisit the plan,
[28:18] open the plan, and once that is
[28:21] done, then the property will be
[28:23] available for disposal by the navy because the reuse plan is
[28:27] a necessary precondition under
[28:36] the base closure act. I think
[28:39] that is it. That is all. For
[28:42] those that will be interested
[28:45] in actually the process of
[28:48] getting from there to here, I
[28:55] guess I am at one of the booths out there for later questions.
[28:57] where you have out there the actual contract between the
[29:00] city and the federal
[29:03] government, which is something
[29:06] that we needed several people
[29:09] to have clarity in. Thank you.
[29:12] >> I did want to make an
[29:13] observation. The way we've set up the room it seems that
[29:15] george was presenting to you
[29:18] but he was presenting to the
[29:20] local reuse authority, which is the city council, so when he
[29:24] says the nepa/ceqa process
[29:25] which you are familiar with, he was talking to us and not you.
[29:29] if you are not familiar with that, that's why it landed
[29:33] differently and I wanted to
[29:34] make a point that you at the end of your comments was
[29:36] talking about the county
[29:38] application for the regional park. To put a finer point, as
[29:42] we started our deliberations
[29:45] for the two lra meetings go
[29:47] which was 2021, we engaged with the county and in the process
[29:51] we revoked our approval of the
[29:53] county park plan because we knew they didn't have any money
[29:55] to build it. And they were not going to build it. So there is
[29:59] not going to be currently a county park there. If the
[30:00] county wants to come back and
[30:02] engage the lra and say they want to build a regional park,
[30:03] that's something we can talk
[30:05] about and that's the process george was talking about that
[30:08] we need a plan to the 85 acres around the north hangar.
[30:11] there's a misnomer out there. I think a lot of people think the
[30:12] county owns the land or the
[30:14] county is going to build regional park. That is no
[30:18] longer the plan approved by the lra. Do we have questions for
[30:21] george or comments?
[30:23] >> just a quick question. Does the association of the defense
[30:27] community still exist?
[30:29] >> yes, it does exist. I am the general counsel.
[30:33] >> perfect.
[30:42] >> you hinted at the beginning
[30:45] with your penance and given the
[30:48] answer from council member nelson I assume that everybody
[30:51] who had base closure in the
[30:54] 1980s â€" or the 1990s, I guess the 1980s and 1990s are most
[30:57] localities still dealing with
[31:03] it like we are? I don't think
[31:04] that we are an outlier, if I'm understanding what you've
[31:06] presented.
[31:07] >> you're absolutely not an
[31:12] outlier. There are still
[31:15] communities today that have not
[31:18] yet negotiated an edc agreement
[31:21] that are still negotiating to get their purchase and sales
[31:26] agreement, and with regard to the actual conveyance to
[31:30] property, I mean, it's no
[31:32] secret that former military installation property is
[31:39] heavily contaminated. So -- not much -- many â€" a large
[31:42] percentage of the land area has
[31:45] not been conveyed even if there is a purchase deal. It is under
[31:48] [ inaudible ]
[31:51] >> something to follow up
[31:54] related. There is a santa ana
[31:57] air force base, which is now the orange county fairgrounds.
[32:04] but they seem to have moved more quickly to take over that
[32:09] space. I think that closed years ahead of time. Was it
[32:12] just in a different day and age or different environmental
[32:15] concerns and regulations. I
[32:18] think probably a lot of postwar
[32:20] facilities throughout the country had a similar process.
[32:26] >> there is a lot of history, but the basic answer is that
[32:36] the department of defense closed many bases after world
[32:39] war ii. And congress stepped in
[32:42] and passed a law precluding
[32:45] closures unless they went to a
[32:48] very detailed process. So those
[32:51] that were slated for closure
[32:54] before that process were
[32:56] disposed of very quickly without community input unless
[33:00] they requested it. Afterwards
[33:03] there was a detailed plan and
[33:06] there is currently a statute
[33:09] that precludes any closures
[33:12] absent an act of congress or
[33:15] going through the process. There
[33:17] were two presidential vetoes, I think, president carter
[33:18] president ford vetoed the
[33:21] budget at two separate times over that very issue of closing
[33:24] bases.
[33:26] >> additional comments and questions?
[33:30] >> thank you very much for that walk down memory lane. I
[33:33] appreciate it. Very complex a
[33:35] lot of twists and turns. The south hangar I think all this
[33:37] on the city council get a lot of questions from our
[33:39] constituents about the south
[33:42] hangar. There's an emotional connection, but can you talk a
[33:45] little bit more about the
[33:48] process of remediation and what
[33:52] the process is around, is it
[33:55] every 2 to 3 years, the navy will take a look and see where
[33:57] we are with remediation and come back and say, yes, we can
[34:01] finally convey that property to
[34:02] the city to develop or you need to wait another 2 to 3 years.
[34:04] can you just give a little more
[34:07] background on that?
[34:09] >> the federal government is obligated to remediate.
[34:13] remediate is not necessarily
[34:16] cleanup. They have to render it
[34:18] safe for human health and the environment. And that could be
[34:20] done with land-use restrictions, or, in fact,
[34:25] physical work to render it â€" to
[34:28] remove the contaminants and at
[34:31] the time that they do the
[34:34] conveyance, they do an
[34:36] environmental analysis of the property and decide and
[34:40] determine what is necessary to
[34:43] clean it up -- to remediate it to the standards that you set
[34:48] in your reuse plan. Then, it's a matter of implementing that.
[34:52] sometimes if it's a groundwater
[34:55] issue, it may take 20 years to pump and treat and you cannot
[34:57] convey until the system is operating properly and
[34:58] successfully.
[35:04] it is a matter of money, as a
[35:06] candid issue. Each year the defense department asks for a
[35:10] certain amount of money for
[35:13] environmental remediation on
[35:23] bases it no longer operates. That is viewed by the
[35:24] defense department as money out of their hide that does not buy
[35:26] bullets and ships. It is not a very heavily-funded account.
[35:31] and that money is spread across
[35:34] all base closure properties and
[35:37] across the country in all the
[35:40] states in all the areas. It is
[35:43] a matter of triage. And I know
[35:46] in meetings with the navy and
[35:48] others meeting with the navy and army and air force, you
[35:52] know, you get a schedule that
[35:55] says you are on the 2037 budget.
[35:58] >> thank you. Additional
[36:01] comments for george?
[36:04] >> I know the city of tustin
[36:05] will present at the end of the six partner presentations, and
[36:07] I think a lot of our questions
[36:10] will be around that property. Thank you for the overview. One
[36:13] of my biggest takeaways is that
[36:19] maybe further [ inaudible ]
[36:20] there is a lot of property left to be developed, but it's very
[36:22] complicated. The city doesn't
[36:25] have a title of it yet. We are
[36:27] waiting on, as the councilmember schnell was just
[36:30] asking about, federal government remediation actions
[36:33] to take place before they can hand over the property. And
[36:37] then that which has already
[36:39] passed in fee to the city that the city owns, the city is
[36:42] taking action on and that's what we'll discuss later. In
[36:46] addition to that there's
[36:49] property that may be vacant and
[36:50] folks think the city controls it but our partners actually
[36:52] control it and that's what we're doing tonight is getting
[36:54] updates from those agencies took property back in the
[36:57] 1990s. Thank you, george. Its good to see you in person.
[37:00] george is usually in d.c. And we look at him on the screen
[37:03] like the wizard of oz and I appreciate you being here in
[37:04] person.
[37:07] next is the orange county
[37:10] rescue mission. Mr. Brian crain.
[37:25] >> all right. Thank you, mayor,
[37:28] mayor pro tem, counsel, city
[37:29] staff, residents. It's my honor and privilege to be here
[37:33] tonight. I was asked -- my name is brian crain, I'm the
[37:35] president of the orange county rescue mission and I was asked
[37:37] to give an update on our
[37:40] development and the work that
[37:49] has been done on our property, and here's the update. It was
[37:50] completed in 2008, and we have been operating for 17 years
[37:52] now. That said, people often
[37:55] ask me what actually happens
[37:58] there? I'm going to attempt --
[38:01] there we go. I'm going to spend
[38:03] -- I'm going to be brief. We are going to blaze through
[38:07] this. So it's not 30 minutes for all six partners. People
[38:10] drop off clothing donations at
[38:13] the rescue mission and they say what actually happens there,
[38:16] what goes on there? So it's my privilege to share in a few
[38:19] minutes what happens at the village of hope. The village of
[38:22] hope is a five-acre campus at
[38:25] the corner of redhill and
[38:28] valencia. We have the capacity for 387 beds and that is for
[38:34] men, women, and children, who are coming out of a crisis
[38:37] situation. That could be the
[38:40] sudden loss of a job, it could be a drug or alcohol addiction,
[38:43] it could be domestic violence
[38:51] situation, even a human trafficking situation. We are
[38:52] there to help people in these
[38:54] situations. We are a christian ministry and it's our goal to
[38:55] provide restoration, healing,
[39:00] hope, to the people that we serve and to equip them with
[39:03] the tools that they need to get back on their feet and to
[39:07] become financially self-sufficient again. When
[39:10] people come to the program they
[39:12] are making a commitment this is not an emergency overnight
[39:15] shelter. Generally people are with us for 18 to 24 months,
[39:19] and during that time they want
[39:21] access to counseling, sobriety coaching, vocational training,
[39:25] education, all on the road to
[39:31] financial self-sufficiency. We
[39:33] are one of the only, if not the only, program of our kind in
[39:37] orange county that a whole
[39:40] family can do together, and we are the only program of our
[39:43] kind, of our type of long
[39:47] transitional program, that
[39:48] allows for a single dad and his kids to go through the program.
[39:51] in fact, right now we have four single dads and their kids
[39:56] going through the program. So
[39:58] when people come into the program, like I said, it's not
[40:01] just food and clothing and shelter. We provide all kinds
[40:04] of services. One of the wonderful things about being on
[40:07] five acres is we have many services under one roof. People
[40:13] have access to a medical clinic, they have access to counseling
[40:16] every week with a licensed clinical social worker. We have
[40:18] a partner with trinity law school that allows for
[40:22] residents to have access to legal help. We have life skills
[40:26] classes where people learn
[40:29] about time management, resume
[40:30] building, personal finance, personal budgeting. We do a lot
[40:34] of vocational training, which I will talk about in the second
[40:38] and education is a very
[40:40] critical component. We offer every single adult that comes
[40:42] through our program the opportunity to earn their high
[40:45] school diploma, and that's through a long-standing
[40:47] relationship with tustin
[40:50] unified adult school, which has
[40:52] been a tremendous partner and a blessing to probably hundreds
[40:56] of our students at this point.
[40:59] so a vocational training is a
[41:01] key component. We want to launch people into careers; not
[41:04] just jobs. Listed on the screen are some of the vocational
[41:09] certificates people have pursued in the last few years or
[41:11] industries they gone in to. We
[41:13] also have great relationships with many employers in the city
[41:17] of tustin. Patterson auto,
[41:20] which owns tustin mazda and
[41:23] hyundai employs six of our
[41:29] graduates in sales. Auto tech,
[41:30] administrative, and sales. And we are proud to be partnered
[41:32] with employers in the city of
[41:34] tustin. Volunteers. We cannot do this without volunteers,
[41:37] which is why love standing in front of a group like this. If
[41:41] you have a group, and I don't
[41:44] care if it's your book group,
[41:46] your family, your church, your school, your business, we want
[41:50] to hear from you. We will be
[41:53] out at a table at the end of
[41:57] this and we want to talk to you. In
[41:59] the last year we logged 17,000
[42:02] individual hours -- 18,000
[42:08] individual hours. 27,000 group
[42:11] volunteer hours for a total of --
[42:20] 45,000 hours. We think that we provide a very
[42:21] robust rewarding opportunity for your group and there are
[42:22] countless organizations in the city of tustin who come and
[42:23] participate, and we are glad to
[42:24] have them, and we want to talk to you. The future of the
[42:29] village of hope. We are fully developed but I get every
[42:32] opportunity I can to say to the
[42:34] council that we do see an opportunity for next step
[42:38] housing for our program graduates. We will welcome the
[42:41] opportunity to develop another
[42:44] five acres on our dime to be
[42:47] able to provide independent, safe, affordable housing to the
[42:50] graduates of our program. And
[42:52] we would operate the way we do at the village of hope, which
[42:55] is 100% drug and alcohol free and we incorporate the elements
[42:59] of community and accountability that has made that program so
[43:02] successful. In closing, I want to thank the
[43:05] city of tustin for being such
[43:08] an amazing partner over many
[43:11] many years. We estimate that
[43:17] from 2008 when we opened until now
[43:18] that 3200 men, women and
[43:19] children have transitioned into stable housing by going through
[43:22] the village of hope. The city of tustin has been a tremendous
[43:25] partner both for the village of hope and the tustin veterans
[43:29] outpost that has former military veterans and their
[43:32] families. I would like to say that while we are the orange
[43:35] county rescue mission and we
[43:38] service people from all of the county, we are very proud to
[43:41] live in tustin, to be
[43:43] headquartered in tustin and to be partnered with a city that
[43:47] truly cares for the people that
[43:49] we serve. I could not be more proud. I myself am a resident
[43:52] of tustin and I could not be more proud that our
[43:56] organization is headquartered here in tustin. I believe that
[43:59] my contact information -- there
[44:02] we go. That is my contact
[44:05] information and my phone
[44:08] number, my email. If you are
[44:11] interested in volunteering, we want to talk to you. If you
[44:19] know someone -- link them to resources. If you are in a
[44:23] position to donate five acres for nextstep housing, call me
[44:26] immediately. I'm kidding.
[44:31] grateful for the opportunity and I look forward to talking
[44:32] to on the patio. Thank you.
[44:35] >> thank you, brian. Do we have
[44:41] any questions or comments?
[44:50] >> I would like to make a quick comment. I don't know that you
[44:56] mentioned it brian, but thank
[44:57] you, because you guys actually operate a homeless shelter as
[44:59] well, which is been a very successful program and sought
[45:02] after by other cities. I want
[45:05] to encourage anyone. Orange
[45:07] county rescue mission is extremely special and I know it
[45:11] is used as a model for other organizations. And a leader in
[45:14] what you do and looking at the
[45:16] success rate you're actually solving the problem. You're
[45:20] making a difference. If anyone has the opportunity to go
[45:22] volunteer, I know brian mentioned it five times and I
[45:23] will mention it once more. It
[45:27] is just as much for the kids
[45:29] and families there as it is for yourself. To see what they're
[45:31] going through to see the transformation is very
[45:35] eye-opening and it is special what you are doing. If you
[45:38] cannot make it -- it's a short engagement. You can go for a
[45:42] half hour. There are a lot of
[45:45] different ways to help out and
[45:46] you can donate as well. It's a great program and thank you for
[45:48] being in our community and
[45:54] helping.
[45:56] >> obviously, you're talking about five acres. What would
[46:03] that look like and how many
[46:04] homes would be there and how many families would be housed
[46:06] and are they permanent homes for those families or is it
[46:09] transitional?
[46:10] >> [ inaudible ]
[46:39] >> a lot of times graduates come out of the program and go
[46:42] into a new career and they need
[46:45] a couple of years to develop
[46:46] their earning potential and to rise up to the point where
[46:49] they're able to support their family with market rate
[46:51] housing. There is a gap there
[46:53] between starting a new career and being able to support your
[46:57] family. So we would see it as
[46:59] not in perpetuity. A definite nextstep and we operate similar
[47:03] properties in the city of
[47:06] orange and so but why tustin?
[47:14] because our flagship campus is right there and we regularly --
[47:15] we have 240 people in the
[47:16] program and it would be -- a lot of times when people
[47:18] graduate they have their kids
[47:21] in tustin unified and they
[47:27] start looking outwards to where else they might move, and then
[47:28] they have to make a decision am I going to commute every day
[47:29] back to the school that my kids are in. So that is why adjacent
[47:30] to the village of hope would be
[47:33] a blessing.
[47:41] >> just to echo what councilmember gallagher said,
[47:45] I've had the honor to support
[47:48] the rescue mission and I've had
[47:51] the honor to do it with my
[47:53] daughters and my family. My oldest has graduated and is off
[47:58] to college, but my youngest is a sophomore through national
[48:00] charity league they do
[48:03] volunteer hours. I've had the
[48:05] pleasure of also attending one of the graduation ceremonies.
[48:08] absolutely very impactful and very powerful and it pulls on
[48:12] your heartstrings to see the
[48:14] journey and the life journey that these people make over 18
[48:18] months and the work that you do
[48:21] is tremendous. Excuse me. I
[48:24] would say, that came out of nowhere. As far as volunteering
[48:28] we have also volunteered during thanksgiving to serve meals,
[48:33] and I cannot say that there is a better way to appreciate the
[48:36] blessings that you have is to
[48:38] go there and actually serve meals to the residents, talk to
[48:41] them, get to know them. And to amplify what you said, if you
[48:43] have a chance to volunteer, especially on thanksgiving,
[48:45] it's a wonderful experience.
[48:48] thank you for what you do.
[48:51] >> we have a 5k turkey trot on
[48:55] thanksgiving and we have --last year we had over 1000
[48:56] people run is a great opportunity to bring your
[48:57] family.
[49:06] >> I just want to say
[49:09] congratulations on the success.
[49:12] I thought george has a longer track record than I do in the
[49:15] city with the base. I started
[49:18] in 2002, and I remember
[49:21] converting those marine barracks into the original
[49:24] campus in the plans for that
[49:26] and going through it and creating just an incredible
[49:30] campus. If you have not been there, you need to check it
[49:33] out. Once you check it out, you
[49:35] will want to volunteer. Make sure you keep his number and
[49:36] contact information.
[49:51] >> next on our list is the south
[49:56] orange county community college district.
[49:57] >> good afternoon, or
[50:06] evening, I guess. Thank you mayor lombard and city council
[50:09] members for allowing us to
[50:12] present you tonight. I am the
[50:15] vice chancellor business
[50:17] services with the south orange county community college
[50:18] district and I have my
[50:21] colleague here. He is our
[50:24] executive director of facilities planning, and in the
[50:26] audience we have one of our board members who actually
[50:33] serves the city
[50:35] of tustin... I'm sure you are familiar with him. We are very
[50:39] lucky to have him. We have a
[50:46] short presentation for you tonight.
[50:51] the south orange county community college district we
[50:54] have three campuses. The newest
[51:00] one is here at atep and some of
[51:06] the land from the reuse act. We
[51:09] have about 61 acres that we are trying to develop and our main
[51:12] campus is at saddleback college in mission viejo and we have
[51:15] irvine valley college in
[51:18] irvine, the district itself is
[51:21] the largest in area of the four
[51:23] community college districts within orange county. Covering
[51:27] about 382 square miles. We
[51:30] serve 15 different cities,
[51:33] which includes tustin as well as north tustin and about seven
[51:36] unincorporated areas. Annually
[51:39] we serve about 54,000 students.
[51:46] there we go. And we just opened
[51:52] two new buildings over at atep
[51:55] this week, yesterday actually.
[51:58] culinary arts facility as well
[51:59] as our automobile advanced technology building has been
[52:03] opened and we are happy to say we have about 200 students
[52:06] there. Brand-new students to the area and we hope that will
[52:10] help. I will let mr. Efraim go
[52:13] over everything that we do at
[52:23] the atep site.
[52:24] >> good evening, everyone. This is, I believe,
[52:25] our third presentation to the lra and it's fun to see the
[52:26] community and present to the community on the work that we
[52:30] have done. Previous slides we've had just to share with
[52:35] the community in our 61.4 acres that we have there were about
[52:39] 41 former navy buildings that we've demolished over the
[52:43] years. In 2015 about 36 and in
[52:47] 2023 the rest about six of them. All of the navy buildings
[52:51] have been demolished on our site. Work that we've done on
[52:55] site, infrastructure work is
[52:58] mostly on the fee land but some
[53:01] that we've built roads,
[53:02] roundabouts, electrical we worked with edison to have that
[53:07] set up. Storm, sewer,
[53:10] drainpipes. We did a lot of
[53:16] that work prior to our buildings coming online. Most
[53:17] of that work was in 2018. In 2020 as some of you may have
[53:19] seen it, we installed some of
[53:22] the wayfinding monument signage as well. That got installed as
[53:34] well. One of our new
[53:38] buildings known as the idea building was completed in
[53:39] 2018 and they've been having classes since then.
[53:41] approximately 1200 students this fall right now. That is
[53:43] good. Prior to that we did have
[53:46] classes across the street where
[53:51] we did used to teach classes there. But now we moved here
[53:55] and have been teaching here
[53:58] since then. The goddard school,
[53:59] last year at this time they had just barely opened. They are
[54:03] here at the booth with us as well. That is an exciting
[54:07] program that they've started. They've been here a year now.
[54:10] they have about 100 students,
[54:15] which is exciting and they are growing. It is a great asset
[54:18] and program for the community ongoing basis. Next are at this
[54:19] time hopefully that will be
[54:25] about 300. Saddleback is an
[54:28] absolutely exciting program.
[54:31] this is saddleback college
[54:33] building the new culinary and automobile program. We are
[54:35] excited about that. We just had the event opening and
[54:39] ribbon-cutting last monday and classes just started yesterday.
[54:45] and casey is here if anybody wants to talk to her about our
[54:49] program and what we have going
[54:51] there. Classes were in full session yesterday morning at
[54:55] 7:30 a.m. This program will I'm
[54:58] sure quadruple in size in the
[55:00] years to come so we are very excited about it. We did
[55:02] prepare a quick slideshow. So if you don't mind we can show
[55:04] you.
[56:31] >>> I think just to add to that the
[56:34] college is starting to
[56:37] work with the community in local dealerships
[56:38] and
[56:40] restaurants to partner with everybody
[56:41] to engage them
[56:43] so this will be an exciting program. The
[56:47] next slide that we have
[56:50] here is advantech. They an
[56:51] information technology company. This
[56:53] will be their north
[56:54] american office they are building
[56:56] right south of
[56:58] victory. A ten acre parcel so we are very
[56:59] excited
[57:02] about that. They are full on in
[57:04] construction mode. The left side picture that
[57:05] you see would be
[57:06] the head quarter building and then
[57:08] next to it would be
[57:10] a warehouse building. We are excited
[57:11] about
[57:12] that. We are going to partner with them
[57:14] as soon as
[57:17] they open soon. So exciting
[57:18] to hear. Future developments. We are
[57:20] working with two
[57:23] groups now. I would say
[57:26] at its infancy. The
[57:28] two that we --one of them victory
[57:32] ai academy. It's a milledl
[57:35] aged students school. They
[57:37] are sandwhiched between red hill and
[57:38] armstrong right
[57:41] north of victory. Pretty large
[57:44] site that will have
[57:45] academic buildings and athletic fields so
[57:47] we are excited to
[57:48] partner with them. They are going
[57:50] to be
[57:52] a lot of domestic and international
[57:53] students
[57:55] they will go after but domestic, country
[57:57] wide. We are excited to work with
[57:59] them as well. More to come
[58:02] on that. This is at --I would
[58:04] say it's infancy. The next group we are
[58:07] working with is top tennis management. This
[58:08] is
[58:11] a tennis academy. We are
[58:14] excited working with they are right
[58:18] south of valencia. We are excited
[58:20] to work with them. There will
[58:22] be academic buildings. I failed to
[58:23] mention the
[58:26] prior group will have dorms for
[58:27] the students that will stay on site
[58:29] this group is also looking
[58:32] at having dorms
[58:34] on site. Again early stages of discussions
[58:35] with them
[58:38] but we are hoping to complete
[58:41] and negotiate that through. This slide
[58:43] we kind of wanted to kind of give
[58:45] you a picture of what the atep site
[58:47] looks like. It looks
[58:50] like if
[58:52] you will. If our last two slides we talked
[58:53] about
[58:55] were victory ai and top tennis. We will
[58:59] have built out all of the atep which
[59:01] is a huge milestone wore the district
[59:04] and our students, the community and
[59:05] for them to be able to
[59:07] use it. This is currently what it
[59:11] looks like. The advantech south of victory
[59:13] is under construction. The victory
[59:14] and negotiations is under
[59:15] negotiations and then the buildings
[59:17] in the middle
[59:19] are completed. You can start --that's
[59:20] currently what
[59:23] the
[59:25] site looks like. Questions?
[59:26] >> I appreciate
[59:27] the presentation. I don't
[59:29] have a question. I have
[59:31] an observation. Back in 2021 the council
[59:32] put you
[59:34] under the gun. What is going on? Why
[59:35] don't we have
[59:37] any development happening out there
[59:38] in the last four years we
[59:41] have seen both the car
[59:44] and culinary arts be planned and constructed
[59:45] and open
[59:47] which is
[59:48] fantastic. I appreciate the leaning
[59:50] forward into
[59:53] other potential uses
[59:56] and
[59:59] education uses. Thank
[1:00:03] you. Additional comments, questions?
[1:00:05] yeah. Congratulations
[1:00:08] on the success since
[1:00:09] 2021. It's amazing to see how far
[1:00:11] you have come. Just
[1:00:12] a couple of items I want to highlight
[1:00:14] since we have a lot of
[1:00:16] the public here. The work you are
[1:00:17] doing. The development and the
[1:00:19] access. There's a limitation. It has to
[1:00:20] be --there's a part
[1:00:22] that can be noneducation, a part that
[1:00:23] must
[1:00:26] be education focused which is what
[1:00:27] paints
[1:00:28] what the options they have there and
[1:00:29] you did a
[1:00:30] great job in identifying use that
[1:00:32] meet those. I wanted to
[1:00:35] point out advantech is a big win
[1:00:37] for the tustin community. I remember
[1:00:38] at the time
[1:00:41] the ground breaking the
[1:00:42] jeb manager for north america, not
[1:00:44] sure the title but 400
[1:00:46] high paying jobs will becoming to
[1:00:50] the city through this.
[1:01:05] let's take a couple minute recess real quick until
[1:01:07] we can handle this situation right there.
[1:01:08] >>> 400 high paying jobs. I think
[1:01:13] that's where
[1:01:14] we left. 400. Very exciting. I want
[1:01:16] to say congratulations
[1:01:18] to you on all the work you are doing. It's
[1:01:22] private academy and victory
[1:01:24] ai. I know those are private uses. If
[1:01:25] at all possible
[1:01:27] there's ways to partner with, you know we
[1:01:28] have
[1:01:31] schools nearby that have no --we
[1:01:33] have the legacy magnet academy that
[1:01:34] has no
[1:01:36] fields, right or limited fields. No
[1:01:37] sports. If there is
[1:01:39] any way to partner with the other
[1:01:40] stake holders we have
[1:01:42] at the base I'm sure you will be thinking
[1:01:43] about
[1:01:44] that. Be great to find those early
[1:01:49] you
[1:01:52] guys mentioned. Thank you.
[1:01:55] >> thank you. Thank
[1:01:58] you. My question. We were both
[1:02:01] agent
[1:02:02] the academies. So, sort of about both
[1:02:07] them. Are those sort of --who do
[1:02:08] those serve? Are they like boarding
[1:02:10] schools if you will for
[1:02:12] -- for students and are they regular
[1:02:13] schools like school
[1:02:16] year schools or specifically
[1:02:19] focused and then, secondly, are
[1:02:20] those long term --round lease was
[1:02:22] the district? Is
[1:02:24] that how the transaction will --is
[1:02:25] seen
[1:02:28] at this point?
[1:02:30] those would belong term ground leases
[1:02:32] with recurrently in negotiations with
[1:02:34] them on. As far as
[1:02:37] the students they would
[1:02:40] serve they
[1:02:41] are private institutions. There is
[1:02:42] an aspect of it that would be boarding schools
[1:02:46] and so you would have international
[1:02:49] and domestic students. I think it
[1:02:52] would serve family was in tustin
[1:02:55] as well. I will say that
[1:02:58] as a private institution
[1:03:01] they will be pricey if I
[1:03:04] can say that. So I
[1:03:07] think that it'll serve potentially
[1:03:10] a niche population of who they will
[1:03:13] be bringing forward but it is
[1:03:16] part
[1:03:18] of an international programming that
[1:03:19] they have
[1:03:22] where they do have schools
[1:03:23] throughout the pacific rim and they
[1:03:25] are trying to bring --this will
[1:03:28] be their first school with in
[1:03:29] california that they want to close the
[1:03:31] loop on the pacific
[1:03:34] rim classes that they do have. That's
[1:03:37] for victory
[1:03:39] ai, yes. As far as the tennis academy again
[1:03:40] that
[1:03:44] a private institution. They are more
[1:03:46] -- I
[1:03:49] would say liken
[1:03:52] to training athletes to excel in
[1:03:55] tennis and to
[1:03:57] compete internationally as well as
[1:03:58] professional. So, you know
[1:04:00] kind of when I talk to them what comes in
[1:04:04] to mind is
[1:04:07] --they go to houston to train for the
[1:04:08] olympics. That's how I see and wrap
[1:04:10] my head around
[1:04:12] what the tennis academy is going to
[1:04:13] be.
[1:04:16] the scope of that campus or facility. Looks
[1:04:19] like it would be a place for
[1:04:22] the t
[1:04:25] ustin open in the
[1:04:28] future.
[1:04:31] potentially.
[1:04:32] >> I have seen
[1:04:34] the proposals
[1:04:37] for victory ai. There's also
[1:04:40] a focus on trades when you take
[1:04:43] a look at the technical aspects. Vehicles
[1:04:46] today are computers. They are
[1:04:49] high tech. Again, very happy to see
[1:04:50] the
[1:04:51] culinary, tech patrols focusing on
[1:04:52] some of
[1:04:55] the 21st
[1:04:58] applications
[1:05:01] with ai. This next generation of learning
[1:05:02] and
[1:05:04] --business so thank you
[1:05:07] very much.
[1:05:10] >> I'm impressed
[1:05:12] with the speed subpoena development of the
[1:05:13] past couple
[1:05:19] of years. Between
[1:05:21] your board and -- you know the speed
[1:05:22] and development. I'm sure the
[1:05:25] board was pushing on that. You have
[1:05:27] good leadership that's going forward
[1:05:28] and
[1:05:30] I think just all excellent choices
[1:05:34] be there and they -- they
[1:05:37] really --effect other thing that
[1:05:40] are going on
[1:05:43] in the old base. Whatever else is
[1:05:44] going on. It's a
[1:05:46] nice kind of play with the other
[1:05:48] uses that are happening. It's nice.
[1:05:50] yeah. I
[1:05:52] will say that I started with
[1:05:54] the district in 2017 and one of the
[1:05:55] first things that the
[1:05:57] chancellor at the time said was a
[1:06:01] temperature baby and you are responsible for
[1:06:02] developing
[1:06:03] it. I have been working hard to try
[1:06:04] to develop
[1:06:07] it and I'm super
[1:06:10] excited with the --what
[1:06:13] we see. If we can bring the last two
[1:06:14] ground
[1:06:15] leases to pass then we will have completely
[1:06:16] built out
[1:06:19] the entire 61 acres which I will be
[1:06:21] extremely proud of.
[1:06:22] >> all right. Thank
[1:06:23] you. We are looking forward to seeing
[1:06:24] what comes next. Thank you very much
[1:06:29] for your
[1:06:32] presentation, sir. Next.
[1:06:35] next we
[1:06:38] rancho
[1:06:39] santiago community college district.
[1:06:46] good evening, mayor. The city council
[1:06:47] staff and
[1:06:50] our community partners. My name
[1:06:52] is ernie gomez. I'm the associate
[1:06:53] dean
[1:06:54] of the criminal justice department which
[1:06:56] is part of the
[1:06:57] community college district. What you have
[1:06:59] on the slides is
[1:07:01] the our location at armstrong avenue
[1:07:02] and it's
[1:07:05] known as the
[1:07:07] orange county regional training academy we
[1:07:08] have
[1:07:11] had a longstanding partnership
[1:07:14] with the orange county
[1:07:15] department. With me is the director
[1:07:17] of facilities
[1:07:20] from
[1:07:24] our college district. He will --discuss
[1:07:26] further of the development of
[1:07:29] the property. A little of
[1:07:30] the background. The partnership is
[1:07:32] over 50 plus years
[1:07:34] and the training academy started in the
[1:07:35] city of
[1:07:36] orange which is a cross from the honda
[1:07:38] center if you
[1:07:43] can picture that. It became kind of
[1:07:44] transient. They
[1:07:47] are visiting different locations
[1:07:49] throughout the county. We came --
[1:07:50] the land
[1:07:53] here in tustin became
[1:07:54] available to sleep and build our academy which
[1:07:56] is part
[1:07:59] of the college. Every recruit that comes
[1:08:02] through
[1:08:03] that academy is a student receiving
[1:08:05] 29 credits for
[1:08:08] that academy and a certificate
[1:08:10] of the academy. The city police department
[1:08:11] are part
[1:08:12] of the community, matter of fact of
[1:08:14] the three
[1:08:17] academy classes on site currently there
[1:08:18] are 135 recruits, two of them are
[1:08:20] your city of
[1:08:22] tustin police officer recruits. We
[1:08:23] are
[1:08:26] just been class 265. We are
[1:08:29] middle of 266, 267, 268. We have
[1:08:32] three academy classes on campus right
[1:08:33] now. It
[1:08:34] sevens throughout orange county and
[1:08:35] portions
[1:08:38] of la
[1:08:41] county agencies. We
[1:08:44] --the training is through
[1:08:47] post which is a peace officer training which dictates
[1:08:48] the training given to the recruits. We
[1:08:50] mirror
[1:08:52] that with the college. They receive
[1:08:56] the college credit. Quickly the
[1:08:59] construction started in to
[1:09:02] 2005. It was dedicated september
[1:09:04] 11th, as original training center. There's a
[1:09:05] little bit of
[1:09:07] background. I will turn it over to
[1:09:08] tae and he will discuss
[1:09:11] more of the
[1:09:14] property.
[1:09:16] thank you. I'm director of facilities
[1:09:17] and
[1:09:20] planning
[1:09:23] for the district. Very briefly
[1:09:26] I will talk about the property itself. Wa
[1:09:27] got
[1:09:29] it back in
[1:09:32] 2003. 15 acres of it and it was
[1:09:35] permitted for
[1:09:37] educational use and purposes. What
[1:09:38] you see here on
[1:09:40] the screen is the original concept
[1:09:41] that was
[1:09:44] developed back in 2003. You will see
[1:09:47] that we developed a majority of
[1:09:50] that site already. What's remaining
[1:09:53] is about three acres of
[1:09:56] undeveloped land that you see on the
[1:09:59] northern portion of
[1:10:02] the photograph there. And with all
[1:10:05] the new challenges facing
[1:10:06] law enforcement and first responders
[1:10:08] we have been looking at what
[1:10:11] type of facility should be placed on that
[1:10:12] undeveloped
[1:10:14] portion of the
[1:10:17] site. We currently have approval to develop
[1:10:20] a 20,000 square foot public safety
[1:10:21] institute
[1:10:26] that
[1:10:29] location. And we just recently completed
[1:10:31] feasibility study at what could go on
[1:10:32] that side including
[1:10:35] the public safety institute. We looked
[1:10:38] adding and
[1:10:41] incorporating a
[1:10:43] physical agility test preparedness
[1:10:44] structure along
[1:10:47] with a running track, fitness and
[1:10:50] skill as sessionsment area, wellness
[1:10:51] facilities
[1:10:53] and instructional classrooms and support
[1:10:57] the academy. Cybersecurity training,
[1:10:59] also
[1:11:02] disaster, critical incident, preparedness
[1:11:03] response
[1:11:05] courses and facilities to support
[1:11:06] that. The
[1:11:08] good news recently is that the
[1:11:11] state chancellor's office approved
[1:11:12] the
[1:11:15] location as a center which means
[1:11:18] that it opens up funding
[1:11:20] for the location on a yearly basis
[1:11:21] and opens
[1:11:25] the opportunity to apply for mass
[1:11:30] funding
[1:11:32] for development facilities. With that
[1:11:33] we kept
[1:11:35] it brief as much as possible and you
[1:11:37] have any questions we will take that
[1:11:39] now.
[1:11:40] >> thank you
[1:11:41] for the presentation. I was a graduate
[1:11:45] of reserve class 22 romeo
[1:11:48] there so aware
[1:11:51] of the facility.
[1:11:54] just in your thinking
[1:11:57] about the
[1:11:59] new structure that's going open. Have
[1:12:00] you
[1:12:01] thought about possibly along with
[1:12:03] the institute doing
[1:12:06] like a first responder history
[1:12:09] or resume portion
[1:12:12] in that?
[1:12:13] >> there is
[1:12:15] a portion of the
[1:12:17] --that has some item that are museum related at
[1:12:18] the
[1:12:21] front of the entrance way. The sheriff's
[1:12:23] --opened the bell center on the other side,
[1:12:24] the westside and
[1:12:26] they are making that --so -- we will
[1:12:27] have
[1:12:29] some historical things there. Matter
[1:12:33] of fact class one. Class one
[1:12:35] from 1965 has their photographs on
[1:12:36] the wall
[1:12:37] in the academy halls which I would love
[1:12:39] you to come look at. A lot of
[1:12:42] these thing that are there that
[1:12:45] will
[1:12:48] remain there.
[1:12:50] yeah. Lot of things there. Yeah.
[1:12:52] you can give us
[1:12:53] any concept of the timeline for that
[1:12:54] development
[1:12:56] for the remaining three acres? I know
[1:12:58] you are looking for funding. Is is
[1:13:00] there a target
[1:13:02] date?
[1:13:03] >> we are looking at a phased
[1:13:04] approach
[1:13:06] right now. That might be
[1:13:08] --that might involve covering up the third
[1:13:09] patch
[1:13:12] that's existing currently and then slowly bringing
[1:13:14] in some to the facilities in preparation
[1:13:15] for
[1:13:18] a permanent facility. Timeline wise
[1:13:20] have nothing concrete right now. We
[1:13:21] need
[1:13:24] to explore the budget and
[1:13:30] planning process itself.
[1:13:31] questions? All right. Thank you very much
[1:13:36] for your presentation.
[1:13:42] all right. Next we
[1:13:44] have tustin unified school district.
[1:14:04] good afternoon and good evening. I'm the
[1:14:06] chief financial officer
[1:14:09] for the tustin school district. With
[1:14:12] me I have our director of
[1:14:13] facilities and planning. So we are grateful
[1:14:14] for the opportunity to stand before
[1:14:15] you today
[1:14:17] to provide an undate from our district
[1:14:18] on the
[1:14:21] progress that we are making
[1:14:24] and have made on the land that was
[1:14:25] convoyed
[1:14:27] during the unwinding of
[1:14:29] the marine corp air station. So, today
[1:14:30] we are going
[1:14:33] to share momentum that
[1:14:35] is building in tustin to meet the needs
[1:14:36] of students and family
[1:14:39] in the years ahead. We are also
[1:14:42] going to review and detail some of
[1:14:43] the work that
[1:14:44] is already happened at the properties.
[1:14:52] we are super excited because we had the opportunity
[1:14:54] to welcome
[1:14:56] our kids back for the 25-26 school
[1:14:57] year and that's
[1:15:00] always a great energy builder to
[1:15:02] carry us through the heavy lifts that
[1:15:03] we have throughout
[1:15:05] the year. Seeing the smiling faces,
[1:15:06] welcoming the
[1:15:08] kids back. Heading into this year
[1:15:09] we reflected on
[1:15:10] the momentum that we built over the
[1:15:12] last several years and
[1:15:15] we carry that momentum in to
[1:15:17] the new school year but also in to
[1:15:18] the future. So
[1:15:21] you can see our logo there shows the
[1:15:24] momentum in terms of the energy, the
[1:15:27] movement of a wave and reminding our
[1:15:28] students
[1:15:30] and staff and community
[1:15:33] that in tustin we lead with
[1:15:35] optimism and team work. So in the
[1:15:39] next couple slides I will share a
[1:15:40] few examples
[1:15:44] momentum in tustin. Here over the
[1:15:45] past
[1:15:48] several years really our amazing students
[1:15:49] have
[1:15:51] continued to excel in
[1:15:54] many areas. You can see on the slide
[1:15:55] language
[1:15:56] arts and math scores have gone up over
[1:15:57] the past
[1:15:59] three years. The number of english
[1:16:00] learners who
[1:16:02] reclassified from english learners
[1:16:06] english proefficient have
[1:16:07] gone up. The a through g completion
[1:16:09] rate which
[1:16:11] is the completion needed for eligibility to
[1:16:12] enter
[1:16:14] the uc or cal state system. Those
[1:16:15] numbers have
[1:16:17] gone up with our students as well as
[1:16:18] the
[1:16:20] number of advanced placement tests
[1:16:21] that our students take
[1:16:24] and those tests
[1:16:27] provide college credits for students entering college
[1:16:30] after high school. We
[1:16:32] have an increasing number of senior
[1:16:33] who
[1:16:37] are graduating with their career
[1:16:38] technical, education court. Not only
[1:16:40] are they looking at
[1:16:41] college but they are also looking
[1:16:43] at the trades
[1:16:44] and other opportunities. Some of our
[1:16:46] partners have mentioned
[1:16:48] this evening. Then also in partnership
[1:16:49] with some
[1:16:51] of the partners that presented earlier
[1:16:52] this evening
[1:16:54] the number of students taking college
[1:16:56] level courses while they are attending
[1:16:58] high school have gone
[1:17:00] up as well. We are excited about that
[1:17:01] momentum
[1:17:04] and we are looking to
[1:17:07] how it looks into the
[1:17:08] future. Another piece is we are grateful
[1:17:11] the community. Our community and their
[1:17:13] support for measure j
[1:17:15] which is a general obligation bond for
[1:17:19] $261 million. That provides
[1:17:21] investment to improve the school facilities. Measure
[1:17:24] funds will slowly be used for the
[1:17:27] schools letting us upgrade classrooms,
[1:17:31] repair
[1:17:33] and upgrade aging infrastructure and
[1:17:35] provide safety and security at all
[1:17:37] campuses. We are
[1:17:39] excited that work is already started.
[1:17:40] we are
[1:17:43] in the planning phases for the first
[1:17:46] phase of school. Under measure
[1:17:48] j as well as we have started the installation
[1:17:52] of many safety at our
[1:17:55] school across tust. These resources
[1:17:58] let us modernize
[1:17:59] the facilities, expand our capacity
[1:18:01] and deliver
[1:18:04] on our commitment to create
[1:18:06] great learning environments for all
[1:18:07] students. With that I will let you
[1:18:08] know
[1:18:10] that a critical
[1:18:12] part of our progress has started,
[1:18:13] with the
[1:18:14] development of some of the land at
[1:18:16] the former marine
[1:18:19] corp. Air station.
[1:18:31] >>> thank you and going mayor,
[1:18:32] members of the council and members of
[1:18:34] the community. I'm the director of
[1:18:37] facilities and planning for the district. A
[1:18:40] lot of the momentum that
[1:18:43] harold has shared about what we
[1:18:46] are doing in tustin is
[1:18:47] definitely reflected in what's going on
[1:18:49] in the facilities.
[1:18:58] I wanted to
[1:19:00] share that. First of all we want --
[1:19:04] our story with
[1:19:06] the legacy development starts with
[1:19:07] our land
[1:19:10] to us for
[1:19:11] heritage elementary school. That land
[1:19:13] was convoyed
[1:19:16] to us in 2002
[1:19:18] after some planning, some false starts
[1:19:19] and
[1:19:22] a structure in 2011 which was
[1:19:25] eventually opened as heritage elementary in
[1:19:27] 2016. Just a little bit about some
[1:19:28] of the good work that's going
[1:19:31] on in
[1:19:33] heritage elementary. It's a steam
[1:19:34] magnet
[1:19:35] school. It has about -- about two
[1:19:37] thirds of the
[1:19:39] enrollment now is residents of legacy
[1:19:40] and also
[1:19:42] is a very attractive destination for
[1:19:43] students throughout
[1:19:46] the district to come and participate
[1:19:48] in their program such as progress based
[1:19:49] learning
[1:19:50] other things that are just exciting
[1:19:52] thing that are going on
[1:19:55] at that facility. Their
[1:19:58] current enrollment is at 590 and
[1:20:04] while the district continues to experience
[1:20:05] declining enrollment
[1:20:07] overall that school continues to have
[1:20:08] a robust
[1:20:10] enrollment that continues to
[1:20:12] grow. I also did just want to mention
[1:20:15] part of our 550 students to kind of
[1:20:19] tie in with
[1:20:22] the -- with the
[1:20:25] -- partners that we do have --we
[1:20:28] do service the --the
[1:20:31] -- the orange --we service the --
[1:20:32] the
[1:20:34] city of hope, excuse me. So,
[1:20:37] that's kind of a high into what
[1:20:40] we do. Moving onto legacy
[1:20:42] magnet academy. We --that is also another
[1:20:43] school that
[1:20:45] continues to gain momentum as well
[1:20:47] enrollment. It was completed for the
[1:20:49] start of the
[1:20:52] 2021 school year. It --
[1:20:55] of the students that
[1:20:58] are 964 students we have there,
[1:21:01] approximately
[1:21:04] --sorry. 675 of them
[1:21:19] the lma doesn't have any cif sports but
[1:21:20] with
[1:21:22] the completion of our gym
[1:21:24] building in 2023, we are able to host
[1:21:25] a lot
[1:21:28] of events there. Probably one of
[1:21:31] the biggest events we host
[1:21:33] is robotics tournaments. It's a huge
[1:21:34] part of tustin
[1:21:37] and the
[1:21:40] legacy magnet academy. We also on
[1:21:43] the theme of partnership legacy has
[1:21:46] a partnership
[1:21:48] with irvine valley and about 850 students
[1:21:52] legacy magnet academy from
[1:21:54] grade 7 to 12 are taking college classes and
[1:21:55] all
[1:21:58] of our legacy students graduate with
[1:22:01] dual aa and their high school
[1:22:03] diploma. That's a great fireman we
[1:22:04] continue
[1:22:07] to participate with ib c on that is exciting
[1:22:08] for
[1:22:10] our students and community. Then
[1:22:13] so looking at
[1:22:16] the slide the --we show
[1:22:19] our -- information about our current
[1:22:20] district office. While
[1:22:22] we were planning and building
[1:22:24] our legacy facilities we were looking
[1:22:25] at doing
[1:22:27] some maintenance work, improving our district
[1:22:28] office facility and as part
[1:22:31] of the routina ceasement that we were
[1:22:34] doing in preparation for work we discovered
[1:22:37] some fairly serious issues as far
[1:22:40] the structure of the building. As
[1:22:41] a result
[1:22:44] of that we have had --we spent
[1:22:47] the last three years
[1:22:48] talking very intimately as a district about
[1:22:50] how we
[1:22:53] want to dress that issue and
[1:22:54] in case you are asking yourself why
[1:22:56] that factors in to
[1:22:58] the legacy --the tustin legacy presentation
[1:23:02] will turn it back over to
[1:23:05] explain how tustin legacy fits
[1:23:08] into that assessment
[1:23:11] we have been
[1:23:14] doing.
[1:23:15] >> okay. Thank you
[1:23:16] tom. Just for the information tom
[1:23:17] has --
[1:23:19] heritage and is at the lake so he
[1:23:23] knows these programs
[1:23:25] very well. With that we are looking at
[1:23:28] the future. Now legacy magnet the
[1:23:30] admin building space has been constructed. We
[1:23:32] have added the
[1:23:35] gym
[1:23:38] and ct building.
[1:23:47] so the
[1:23:48] slide before you explains that we
[1:23:50] are currently in the planning
[1:23:53] efforts for a new district education
[1:23:56] center that is going to
[1:24:05] located at the seven
[1:24:07] acre parcel. Our community we have
[1:24:08] actively started
[1:24:11] the
[1:24:13] planning process for that property. So
[1:24:14] with
[1:24:17] that we have also --we
[1:24:20] have been in contact -- been in contact with the
[1:24:23] city in regards to their
[1:24:26] plans for the legacy
[1:24:28] --legacy area related to developments,
[1:24:29] development
[1:24:32] that would generate students
[1:24:33] for our education alpha silts. We
[1:24:35] are looking at
[1:24:37] what those impacts and studying what
[1:24:38] they -- to determine
[1:24:41] what will be the program and facility
[1:24:44] needs going forward. Lastly as
[1:24:47] was referenced earlier there
[1:24:50] is a small 1.1-acre property that
[1:24:53] is part of the
[1:24:56] plan for the district as all of
[1:24:58] the partners are affected by this we
[1:24:59] are waiting for
[1:25:02] the disposition by the navy so
[1:25:03] we can determine what --what the uses
[1:25:05] will be
[1:25:06] for that property. Unfortunately we
[1:25:08] don't have a clear
[1:25:11] timeline. It's the navy. God
[1:25:13] bless them. We want to make sure that
[1:25:14] we are
[1:25:16] continuing to monitor that and identity
[1:25:17] uses
[1:25:20] for those properties into
[1:25:23] the future. With that we --
[1:25:26] wanted to talk about
[1:25:28] ongoing challenges related to the
[1:25:29] developments that
[1:25:32] were discussed. As tom shared the enrollment at both
[1:25:35] schools is nearing
[1:25:37] capacity. It's really limiting options
[1:25:38] particularly as
[1:25:40] we are thinking about new sleepment and
[1:25:43] we are looking -- to determine what
[1:25:44] are some of
[1:25:47] the creative solutions to house
[1:25:50] new students. We have increased demand
[1:25:53] in education
[1:25:55] for support spaces, after school programs
[1:25:56] which all take
[1:25:59] --have demands, place demands
[1:26:01] on the facilities. Safe roots to schools. They
[1:26:02] are always a
[1:26:04] priority for our neighborhoods. Especially in
[1:26:05] this
[1:26:07] area. We are pleased to report that
[1:26:08] --the city
[1:26:11] has been a great
[1:26:14] partner this opening the
[1:26:19] admonition offet extension. Transgress
[1:26:20] onto the legacy property. We
[1:26:23] appreciate the partnership with the
[1:26:24] city
[1:26:25] and with that we thank you for your
[1:26:26] time and I will
[1:26:29] take any questions.
[1:26:30] >> thank you. Thank you both
[1:26:31] and
[1:26:32] I appreciate you --that last slide
[1:26:33] I think you addressed a lot of the
[1:26:34] comments we made last year about capacity
[1:26:35] and safe
[1:26:37] routes to school. I can share with
[1:26:38] you that the council
[1:26:41] two weeks ago approved
[1:26:44] authorizing staff to go out forbid
[1:26:45] for
[1:26:46] the armstrong bridge. We are moving
[1:26:47] forward in the
[1:26:49] armstrong bridge or -- the base bridge
[1:26:50] program
[1:26:53] and I know that bring will be a
[1:26:56] big help for legacy. Understanding
[1:26:59] the needs for the
[1:27:01] administrative space because of the
[1:27:02] aging and the root problems. I
[1:27:05] think it would be a
[1:27:07] shame to see that before may and the
[1:27:08] community feels the
[1:27:11] same way. We don't want to
[1:27:13] see the rest built. Exploring and how
[1:27:14] you
[1:27:16] will house additional students. We
[1:27:17] have a
[1:27:20] ton of housing and I know you are
[1:27:23] aware of that. They will need a
[1:27:25] place to go. Certainly the second
[1:27:26] half of
[1:27:29] the students is --a real
[1:27:32] near term. I just want
[1:27:33] to recognize. Superintendent johnson
[1:27:35] is somewhere. Weighstrying to
[1:27:37] get in the wrong door. Is he in the back
[1:27:38] over there
[1:27:40] now. He is here and if northbound
[1:27:41] wanted to pepper
[1:27:43] him with questions during open house
[1:27:44] I'm sure he
[1:27:48] will stick around. Any more
[1:27:51] comments or questions? >
[1:27:54] >> I appreciate his
[1:27:57] chants about
[1:27:59] classroom space. I'm glad to hear
[1:28:03] that. I was wondering
[1:28:05] about that. Timing for you call it
[1:28:06] is district
[1:28:07] education. I guess that's the fancy
[1:28:09] words for,
[1:28:11] you know district headquarters. What
[1:28:15] do you have an idea on
[1:28:17] the time frame and what --not quite
[1:28:18] legacy but what would
[1:28:21] happen to the
[1:28:24] existing headquarters?
[1:28:25] >> so great
[1:28:26] questions. Both --the --we don't have
[1:28:27] a timeline we are working
[1:28:29] through the process with the governing
[1:28:30] board and we
[1:28:32] will be sharing updates with the community
[1:28:33] in terms
[1:28:36] of what timelines
[1:28:38] would look like. As such because we
[1:28:41] are still occupying the current district
[1:28:42] office we
[1:28:44] do not have any plans for disposition
[1:28:45] at this
[1:28:47] point. I think that once we are further
[1:28:51] along
[1:28:53] in the process on --where we will eventually
[1:28:57] --we will start to
[1:29:00] formulate any ideas about this existing space
[1:29:02] and the other thing I would add to
[1:29:03] the
[1:29:05] mayor's comments is, you know, the
[1:29:06] other
[1:29:09] sort of peace --we are here for legacy
[1:29:12] is that measure j. We have in addition
[1:29:14] to what's happening at legacy. We
[1:29:15] have
[1:29:17] important work that's happening at school sites
[1:29:18] as part
[1:29:21] of the phase one to bring the older schools
[1:29:23] up to a certain standard and in alignment with
[1:29:24] some of
[1:29:27] the newer schools and --
[1:29:30] so, ourschools are our priority and
[1:29:33] recognize and appreciate that confidence.
[1:29:35] comments?
[1:29:36] >> thank you for the presentation. I
[1:29:37] am -- a
[1:29:38] proud father of two daughters who
[1:29:39] went
[1:29:41] to pioneer and peter's canyon. Had
[1:29:44] great academic experience. Thank you
[1:29:45] very much. Mark johnson and
[1:29:48] the rest of the teachers did a
[1:29:50] good job educating my daughters. You
[1:29:51] did mention
[1:29:54] measure j. I'm glad to see that money
[1:29:57] will be set aside
[1:29:58] for schools to bring the schools up to speed
[1:30:00] and code. I wanted to ask
[1:30:02] about school safety since something that's been important to
[1:30:03] me and I know that
[1:30:06] part
[1:30:08] of those measure j dollars are going
[1:30:11] toward school safety enhancements. I
[1:30:15] want to get a sense of how much will
[1:30:16] be dedicated to schools and other
[1:30:18] safety measures and are you able
[1:30:21] to talk about and what of the enhancements might
[1:30:24] be?
[1:30:25] >> great question. While I
[1:30:26] can't give you a specific dollar amount because
[1:30:27] those things
[1:30:29] sort of changing I can say that we
[1:30:30] are already started to
[1:30:32] make those investments in the school. We --
[1:30:36] as part of the --measure j we always want
[1:30:37] to commit to our community that we
[1:30:39] are going to put the dollars to work
[1:30:42] as soon as we can and
[1:30:43] we thought security enhancements was
[1:30:45] the first place
[1:30:48] to start. So, all
[1:30:51] of our schools received
[1:30:52] access controls, upgrades which essentially
[1:30:54] for those that
[1:30:56] have ring cameras at your homes it is
[1:30:57] a --
[1:31:00] a camera based system where we can
[1:31:03] see out and we
[1:31:06] can buzz people, visitors into
[1:31:07] it. No longer can anyone just walk
[1:31:09] up to a door and sort of access
[1:31:12] our facilities. They have to be
[1:31:15] let in. So that's --that's one
[1:31:18] phase. In addition when we think about
[1:31:21] making hard
[1:31:24] targets we are
[1:31:27] expanding cameras. Not
[1:31:30] all school sites have
[1:31:32] camera systems. Over the next several
[1:31:33] summers we will
[1:31:36] continue to expand installations on existing
[1:31:37] campuses
[1:31:39] and then adding two campus that don't
[1:31:40] currently
[1:31:42] have the systems in place. There is
[1:31:45] there's a long process involved in identifying
[1:31:48] the right system that will work for
[1:31:49] what we
[1:31:51] need to do and so I'm proud to
[1:31:54] say that our work has started and
[1:31:57] we have with these measure
[1:32:03] j dollarsprioritized
[1:32:06] safety.
[1:32:07] >> as you go
[1:32:09] through the evaluations are
[1:32:12] you working with tustinpd as well?
[1:32:15] great. Thank you.
[1:32:18] yeah. Just to piggy back on
[1:32:21] that the camera installations. A couple
[1:32:22] of goss
[1:32:24] a tour of the county location and they
[1:32:27] have camera system that integrate
[1:32:30] school low cases to they can get
[1:32:33] access to a situation -- realtime
[1:32:34] data
[1:32:36] and I would hope that --in your camera
[1:32:38] installation coordinating tustin that
[1:32:39] we have that
[1:32:42] integration.
[1:32:43] >> camera systems in
[1:32:45] this day and
[1:32:48] age are high quality and allow for
[1:32:51] lot of integration
[1:32:55] and so absolutely our assistant
[1:32:56] superintendent at admin services he
[1:32:58] is leading
[1:32:59] our safety improvements. Him and his
[1:33:01] team have been doing a
[1:33:04] great job ofvetting and actually
[1:33:05] working with stake holders to mechanic
[1:33:07] sure we put the right
[1:33:09] systems in place to secure campuses.
[1:33:12] additional comments, questions? All
[1:33:13] right. Thank you.
[1:33:19] appreciate it.
[1:33:21] >> all right I understand because
[1:33:22] the councilmembers
[1:33:24] are talking to much we are a little
[1:33:25] behind time I would like to
[1:33:28] invite the city of t ustin
[1:33:33] come up and present.
[1:33:34] >> good evening
[1:33:35] mayor, council,
[1:33:36] members of the community. I will try
[1:33:39] to be quick I --I get the pleasure of
[1:33:40] talking
[1:33:43] about
[1:33:45] the city's economic conveyance property. I
[1:33:46] will
[1:33:48] touch on a few topics briefly on what's
[1:33:49] been developed
[1:33:50] what's remaining. Talk about some
[1:33:52] of our recently
[1:33:53] completed projects with reexcited
[1:33:58] to share. Active
[1:34:01] projects we
[1:34:03] are excited to share. So just quickly you
[1:34:04] have
[1:34:06] heard from a lot of our partners. This
[1:34:07] is a
[1:34:09] map of tustin legacy. This is on the
[1:34:10] website as well
[1:34:13] showing everything that's been
[1:34:15] built to date. Jorge went through
[1:34:16] the background. You can see a
[1:34:19] lot of the red property. They
[1:34:21] have been discussed. What does the city
[1:34:22] have
[1:34:23] left? Everything you see in purple here
[1:34:25] is part
[1:34:26] of the city's economic development
[1:34:27] property and I will touch on a lot
[1:34:28] of projects with
[1:34:29] in these purple areas this are about
[1:34:31] to be completed or
[1:34:34] are coming up
[1:34:37] online here
[1:34:38] shortly. Recently completed projects. Just
[1:34:40] you can
[1:34:41] throw a rock hit it. We have the dog
[1:34:43] park that just opened
[1:34:45] up earlier this year. First dog park in
[1:34:46] the
[1:34:49] city. It's frequented by a lot
[1:34:52] of tustin residents. About a --
[1:34:54] just under a two million dollars project. Look
[1:34:55] forward
[1:34:58] to seeing more people out there
[1:35:00] in the future. One thing that george
[1:35:03] touched on and also our fines is the
[1:35:04] city council
[1:35:06] just recently approved a specific plan
[1:35:07] amendment
[1:35:09] in tustin legacy. Part of the broader
[1:35:10] city wide
[1:35:12] housing rezone. You hear on the news a
[1:35:13] lot of cities
[1:35:15] are having to deal with adding new
[1:35:16] residential
[1:35:19] units to accommodate all of
[1:35:21] the new requirements for the state. You
[1:35:22] can see in
[1:35:25] the various neighborhoods, 200 units were
[1:35:28] added to neighborhood
[1:35:31] g, 1900
[1:35:32] to neighborhood e. There's the it
[1:35:37] is total
[1:35:39] numbers. Active projects. One project
[1:35:40] you probably drove by on
[1:35:43] your way here. A lot of craters and dirt
[1:35:46] being moved around. The neighborhood
[1:35:49] infrastructure project. A big
[1:35:51] creating operation putting in new
[1:35:52] utilities. Cutting new street that
[1:35:54] will be setting up a number of projects. We
[1:35:55] will
[1:35:58] talk about a senior product
[1:36:01] and setting up that project. The next
[1:36:04] phase of
[1:36:05] tustin legacy park. Some power for
[1:36:07] the south
[1:36:09] hanger. This is estimated to we complete by
[1:36:10] the end
[1:36:13] of the current
[1:36:14] calendar year. I mentioned a senior
[1:36:16] project. We
[1:36:18] are working with a senior developer. This is
[1:36:19] a kind of two
[1:36:22] part project one is an active adult
[1:36:25] which is independent
[1:36:29] living for seniors. About 170. The
[1:36:31] other half of the project is
[1:36:34] for assisted living and memory
[1:36:36] care. More of commercial type use. They
[1:36:37] will be operated
[1:36:39] by clearwater with a couple of communities
[1:36:40] here. One in
[1:36:42] north tustin and one in newport beach. It's
[1:36:43] about a six
[1:36:46] acre site. We
[1:36:49] are working through the
[1:36:52] business deals for
[1:36:54] that. Mention the armstrong avenue
[1:36:55] pedestrian bring. Something
[1:36:58] you drove by was two big mounds
[1:37:00] over armstrong. That will be for a
[1:37:01] future pedestrian bridge that will
[1:37:03] connect the first part of the park
[1:37:04] in to the second
[1:37:07] part of the park which I touched on
[1:37:08] earlier. Mounds
[1:37:09] out there to settle for a little bit
[1:37:10] and then they will
[1:37:12] be cut back and the project is out
[1:37:16] bid looking to
[1:37:18] have construction going by 2026. The
[1:37:19] next part
[1:37:21] will be coinciding with that bridge and
[1:37:22] other improvements. It's
[1:37:24] a five acre park site. It'll have
[1:37:27] few different zones. Right now we are
[1:37:28] working through the
[1:37:29] final design drawings, looking to have
[1:37:31] it out to bid
[1:37:34] in early 2026 and construction
[1:37:36] following shortly after that. Really
[1:37:37] exciting project that
[1:37:39] the council approved early their year
[1:37:40] is going to be
[1:37:43] a project
[1:37:46] with the irvine company. 25% of those
[1:37:49] will be for lower income households. Part of one
[1:37:52] the state's requirements
[1:37:55] for public property. There will be
[1:37:58] a publicly accessible park, and
[1:38:01] will really help the city with
[1:38:03] this project specifically. We are working
[1:38:04] through final issues with
[1:38:07] the company looking to close early
[1:38:08] in 2026
[1:38:10] and
[1:38:13] starting construction shortly after that. Some things coming
[1:38:14] down the pike we
[1:38:16] are working on is a offering for corner
[1:38:17] stone
[1:38:19] two. Just across the park is a 52-acre site. We
[1:38:22] are working with ccp real estate
[1:38:25] and srs real state. This will be an
[1:38:28] offering for most likely a retail project
[1:38:29] with
[1:38:31] other mixed uses. The offering was
[1:38:32] released earlier this
[1:38:33] year with city council blessing looking
[1:38:34] to have them in
[1:38:37] the next week or two. More
[1:38:40] updates shortly after
[1:38:42] that. Some pending offerings we are
[1:38:43] working on. The projects --the
[1:38:46] properties noted in purple. We are
[1:38:48] looking at 21 acres in neighborhood
[1:38:50] e which is just across the
[1:38:52] site here from flight. Then 24 acres
[1:38:56] neighborhood d south which is
[1:38:58] just across next to the landing community. Both
[1:39:01] of them will more than likely be released
[1:39:05] later this
[1:39:08] year in fall. The
[1:39:11] hanger sites specifically. Gorge
[1:39:13] touched on this. South hanger is owned
[1:39:16] by the navy. A lot of the environmental
[1:39:19] issues we talked about. The city has
[1:39:20] used that
[1:39:21] building for a lot of temporary uses in
[1:39:23] the past. There's
[1:39:25] been a lot of filming and community
[1:39:26] event that have
[1:39:29] happened in there, nothing on a
[1:39:31] longer term basis. We did a structural
[1:39:32] assessment
[1:39:35] and reuse analysis
[1:39:37] in 2014 that looked add --temporary
[1:39:38] uses
[1:39:41] up to big full
[1:39:47] occupance sincerity
[1:39:48] occupancy. We are looking at a lot
[1:39:50] of different ways of
[1:39:51] doing that. What are things moving
[1:39:53] forward. We are looking at
[1:39:56] a lot of
[1:39:57] temporary upgrades, electrical, and
[1:39:59] other improvements we will
[1:40:00] talk about shortly. The biggest thing
[1:40:02] we are working on is
[1:40:04] in response to the north hanger fire
[1:40:05] what are ways
[1:40:07] we can harden or just better protect
[1:40:08] the south
[1:40:09] hanger moving forward? I put a list together
[1:40:11] on the slide here of all
[1:40:14] the things that the city and the
[1:40:15] city council approved since the north
[1:40:17] hanger
[1:40:19] fire. We have on side security. We
[1:40:20] have mobile
[1:40:23] camera trailers. We have lights
[1:40:25] co located. We have temporary power
[1:40:26] to provide power
[1:40:29] to the egress. We modified
[1:40:32] some of the
[1:40:33] egress. There's razor wire around
[1:40:35] the building. We have a fire panel
[1:40:38] and fire alarm system. We have water
[1:40:40] and hydrants for the building as well. What
[1:40:46] are the costs? We have the costs for each
[1:40:47] the
[1:40:49] past fiscal years or the last two
[1:40:50] and
[1:40:53] the current one. The
[1:40:56] cameras are on a rental basis. Lighting
[1:40:58] and you can see all the other costs. About
[1:40:59] just over a million dollars
[1:41:01] a year and just kind of ongoing rentals
[1:41:02] and basic security
[1:41:05] for
[1:41:06] the south hanger. We have also looked
[1:41:10] some bigger improvements to help harden
[1:41:11] the building,
[1:41:13] more of a property approach. We looked
[1:41:14] at permanent electric
[1:41:15] sincerity. We completed design. It's
[1:41:17] a million and a half
[1:41:19] construction site. We have permanent
[1:41:20] outside cameras. The
[1:41:23] designs part
[1:41:26] of the electricity package.
[1:41:36] the additional hydrants and -- that
[1:41:38] will be one and a half
[1:41:41] and then we are working on a
[1:41:44] complete fire technical analysis
[1:41:45] report. All those improvement also
[1:41:47] be five and a half to six molasses that
[1:41:49] are just going into better protecting the
[1:41:50] building on
[1:41:52] a one time basis. That doesn't increase
[1:41:53] the use of the
[1:41:56] building if that makes sense. We are
[1:41:59] looking protecting it under these improvements. Not
[1:42:00] making
[1:42:02] easier to
[1:42:04] use.
[1:42:05] >> so, an option that --options
[1:42:06] we have been wrestling with
[1:42:07] here is do we want to keep renting the
[1:42:08] things,
[1:42:10] the cameras, lights or should we move
[1:42:11] in those directions
[1:42:12] of the permanent installations of the projects
[1:42:14] I just listed. The
[1:42:16] graph on the list show itself you
[1:42:17] just
[1:42:19] keep going the rental route --that million
[1:42:20] and a half on a
[1:42:22] yearly basis. You spent about $10
[1:42:26] million over the next
[1:42:27] several million years. You want mortgage
[1:42:29] of the
[1:42:32] permanent installation routes. You
[1:42:33] are
[1:42:35] looking at a 14, $15 million
[1:42:38] in the next several years. This is
[1:42:41] just focused on property protection
[1:42:42] that wouldn't
[1:42:44] make the building more usable than
[1:42:46] it currently is.
[1:42:47] >> quick on the south hanger ly
[1:42:48] move to
[1:42:49] the north hanger site. George talked
[1:42:50] about this. This
[1:42:53] is about an 85-acre site. The city
[1:42:54] doesn't have
[1:42:55] a lease on this. We have a license that
[1:42:56] lets you go out and
[1:42:59] trim some of
[1:43:02] the weeds. Get better line of sight. The
[1:43:03] regional park
[1:43:05] use was removed as george mentioned. We
[1:43:08] are going through a
[1:43:11] reuse planning process. Options for
[1:43:12] the
[1:43:13] community to consider here shortly in
[1:43:14] the near
[1:43:17] future. In conjunction with the communication
[1:43:18] process where they
[1:43:19] are collecting a lot of your input
[1:43:20] for what you want to see on
[1:43:22] the north and south hanger sites and how
[1:43:23] to communicate that bet
[1:43:26] we are the community. Just to know
[1:43:28] as george said we --the city will
[1:43:29] plan it but we may
[1:43:31] end up taking the properties. We are
[1:43:32] going to come up
[1:43:35] with a plan and develop -- whether
[1:43:36] that's
[1:43:37] the city, partially to the city or not
[1:43:41] the city at all.
[1:43:43] my last two slides were focused on
[1:43:44] the
[1:43:45] north hanger fire. Wanted to address
[1:43:47] this for the community. Take the
[1:43:49] opportunity. We know that the fire
[1:43:50] started on
[1:43:52] november 7th. Burned for 24 days. Lot
[1:43:53] of debris went
[1:43:56] into around the property
[1:43:58] and the community. Investigation is
[1:43:59] closed. November
[1:44:02] 10th the city council called a specialmeeting
[1:44:05] and the navy's request the
[1:44:07] city council signed up to take on
[1:44:08] the responsibility for cleaning up
[1:44:11] the responsibility into all of
[1:44:14] the nearby neighborhoods. They have
[1:44:16] cooperative agreement for contractors bringing
[1:44:17] all
[1:44:19] the debris removal the air monitoring and
[1:44:20] the legal
[1:44:22] and project management all that as
[1:44:23] part of the cooperative management
[1:44:26] and all the clean unoverseen by all
[1:44:29] the regulatory agencies I
[1:44:31] won't list the soup. There's a lot.
[1:44:38] there was multiple rounds
[1:44:40] of clean up. City and contractors
[1:44:42] would take requests
[1:44:43] for the community. Assess, clean up
[1:44:45] and then assess to make
[1:44:46] sure it was cleaned up correctly. There
[1:44:48] was a final east
[1:44:49] with the above ground route where
[1:44:51] the regulator said if you go
[1:44:52] out and make sure there's nothing else on
[1:44:54] roofs and gutter
[1:44:56] that would be sufficient to get everything done. What we
[1:44:57] found is
[1:44:59] that we would clean a house and then you
[1:45:00] winds would
[1:45:03] happen and more debris
[1:45:04] would fall down. The above ground
[1:45:06] effort was a one time
[1:45:07] last effort to finish. That work was
[1:45:09] completed
[1:45:11] earlier this year. Also the navy's
[1:45:12] contract,
[1:45:13] the navy issued a contract to clean
[1:45:15] up the debris in the hanger
[1:45:18] foot print. That was an $18
[1:45:20] million contract. Their work was done
[1:45:21] earlier and
[1:45:22] back in july just a month ago. All
[1:45:24] work by the city
[1:45:26] and the navy is done for on site and
[1:45:27] community
[1:45:29] clean up. In the report writing phase
[1:45:30] with
[1:45:31] all of the regulatory issues that
[1:45:33] all the
[1:45:34] efforts done were sufficiently protective
[1:45:39] health and
[1:45:45] the iron environment. To date the
[1:45:48] navy paid us
[1:45:50] just shy of $80 million. This is kind of
[1:45:53] the tuned to thank the council for all
[1:45:55] the work. The staff, everybody who
[1:45:57] is on site the day of,
[1:46:00] the days following. The
[1:46:02] weeks knowledging. Congresswoman kim
[1:46:03] was important in our
[1:46:05] conversation was the navy and other
[1:46:06] regulatory agencies,
[1:46:09] the navy staff who I spent
[1:46:12] a number of countless hours on
[1:46:15] the phone with. Tusd
[1:46:17] on school closures, school openings,
[1:46:18] their investigation and then all
[1:46:20] of the partners I forgot to list, list
[1:46:23] and all of the community members with our
[1:46:24] patients and understanding
[1:46:27] this is kind of
[1:46:28] a very unique situation. That's my
[1:46:30] presentation. I would be happy
[1:46:33] to take any questions.
[1:46:36] thank you. You jumped through a
[1:46:39] lot in a very quick and concise timeline. If
[1:46:40] you have additional questions from
[1:46:42] the public that's what the open
[1:46:44] house is for. Really we will have
[1:46:46] public comment opportunity here but
[1:46:48] staff, and the council I think
[1:46:50] most of us if not all of us will be
[1:46:51] available to talk
[1:46:53] to you about more in details and what the
[1:46:54] city is doing
[1:46:56] in our efforts so thank you. Do we
[1:46:57] have
[1:47:00] questions or
[1:47:03] comments for ken?
[1:47:04] >> yeah. Kent, thank
[1:47:05] you for this. Thank you to everybody
[1:47:06] who is worked on
[1:47:07] this from the city. You were talking
[1:47:09] about the
[1:47:12] costs for a full
[1:47:15] --they are somewhat out dated numbers
[1:47:18] but it's a baseline to rehab
[1:47:19] this hanger. There's also -- there
[1:47:21] was also an estimate for
[1:47:23] cost of taking it down which is what
[1:47:24] was
[1:47:27] it? Somewhere in the $40 million neighborhood?
[1:47:30] yeah.
[1:47:31] >> not confirmed. >>
[1:47:32] not confirmed. 20 to $40 million or
[1:47:36] similar hanger
[1:47:39] up in sunnyvale. The moffet, nasa. There's
[1:47:42] two hangers
[1:47:45] up there.
[1:47:47] there's just cost. It's important
[1:47:48] to know and we don't where
[1:47:53] --we have have a lot of activity at
[1:47:54] the
[1:47:56] south hanger. Do we have an active marketing
[1:47:57] plan for the
[1:47:59] south hanger uses this time?
[1:48:00] >> right
[1:48:01] now on
[1:48:03] the city's website is listed as we aren't
[1:48:05] accepting rentals. With very some
[1:48:06] legacy
[1:48:09] tenants who
[1:48:10] know the operation. Understand the
[1:48:12] operation and
[1:48:15] the sensitivities. One of those groups
[1:48:17] that we take everything on a case
[1:48:21] case basis.
[1:48:22] >> okay. Just expand on
[1:48:23] that more. With the north hanger fire the
[1:48:24] city has
[1:48:27] taken all the measures. We didn't
[1:48:28] want a
[1:48:29] lot of people walking in and out of the
[1:48:30] south hanger until it was safe
[1:48:33] and secure. More questions and comments?
[1:48:36] I wanted to kind of --you went through
[1:48:37] that really
[1:48:38] quickly I appreciate the presentation. On the
[1:48:39] city's front you
[1:48:41] can get prepare to ask us questions
[1:48:42] and tell us we are doing a bad
[1:48:45] job if you want to. We have
[1:48:48] got --about a hundred acres on
[1:48:51] the market now between corner
[1:48:54] stone and 52 acres and flight
[1:48:57] 2.0 by is 24 acres. That
[1:49:00] is a result of staff and the council
[1:49:01] getting on the same
[1:49:02] page and saying we can't sit around
[1:49:03] and let the
[1:49:06] property we do control just sit empty we
[1:49:07] need
[1:49:09] to develop it and get to
[1:49:12] it. In the vein I was talking about
[1:49:15] earlier. We were holding our partners
[1:49:16] accountable for construction
[1:49:18] and he we wanted to
[1:49:20] be account build to the city to the
[1:49:21] residents and to
[1:49:23] the community. Thank you staff forgetting
[1:49:24] on board with
[1:49:26] that and really pushing the ball. We
[1:49:27] take a lot of momentum that
[1:49:29] you have seen in the slides and it'll
[1:49:30] be exciting over
[1:49:32] the next two to five years as the
[1:49:33] projects start to go
[1:49:36] vert val and have a lot
[1:49:39] of the amenities. Have a lot
[1:49:40] of the addition --the company project.
[1:49:51] it was up to
[1:49:53] 25, 30 years. Now we are talking a
[1:49:54] shorter
[1:49:55] timeline. We want to make sure all
[1:49:57] of the partners are engaged and we
[1:49:58] are
[1:50:00] in lock step in how we
[1:50:02] develop the base. Everybody asks about
[1:50:06] the hangers. We ask about
[1:50:09] the hangers. We had the
[1:50:12] fire which put a
[1:50:14] big -- main reality what we have feared and
[1:50:15] --we
[1:50:18] have the costs that councilmember
[1:50:19] fink
[1:50:21] was talking about just to keep the
[1:50:22] south
[1:50:24] hanger safe. The city has a financial
[1:50:26] obligation that we can't pay for in
[1:50:27] short term leases. We do
[1:50:30] car commercials. We have $30,000. The
[1:50:32] defense costs over a million dollars
[1:50:33] to install. We are taking a hard local
[1:50:35] and we committed as a council and
[1:50:37] city organization to talk
[1:50:39] with our public about real financial numbers
[1:50:40] that
[1:50:41] you saw on the slides. What it means
[1:50:43] to keep the hanger
[1:50:44] standing which we would all like. Most of
[1:50:46] us would like. What
[1:50:47] it means to potentially have to take
[1:50:49] it down and also
[1:50:51] what the risk is that we just bore
[1:50:54] --the navy just bore with having the
[1:50:55] north hanger
[1:50:57] burnt. A lot of stuff coming up in
[1:50:58] the
[1:50:59] near future and hopefully you are
[1:51:01] seeing this. Are the slides
[1:51:04] going to be available online on the website? We
[1:51:05] had -- you know six presentations
[1:51:07] today and I sat through
[1:51:08] two hours of fire hose of content
[1:51:10] f you want to
[1:51:11] revisit some of that you can go on
[1:51:13] the website and check out
[1:51:15] the slides. I will turn it over to
[1:51:16] city manager
[1:51:19] for some closing comments and
[1:51:22] we will take
[1:51:23] public comments. If there aren't any
[1:51:24] we will move into the open house to
[1:51:28] have a more casual dialogue.
[1:51:30] I want to thank all our partners for
[1:51:31] the presentations
[1:51:32] tonight. With that I will turn it
[1:51:34] back to you to open
[1:51:35] public comment.
[1:51:36] >> thank you. So we
[1:51:37] are going to take
[1:51:38] public comment. If you want to make
[1:51:39] a formal comment on the record you can come
[1:51:42] to the microphone here and address the
[1:51:46] lra
[1:51:48] on anything that we just discussed. I
[1:51:49] don't know if we
[1:51:52] have any requests to speak.
[1:51:54] we have one request to speak in person
[1:51:55] and
[1:51:57] then it's william johnson.
[1:51:58] >> okay. If
[1:51:59] you
[1:52:00] want to speak and you haven't filled
[1:52:01] --do we have cards?
[1:52:02] >> we do. >>
[1:52:03] if you want to speak and you haven't
[1:52:04] filled out a card you can
[1:52:06] come up here and speak and then fill out
[1:52:07] a card or fill out
[1:52:10] a card and then
[1:52:13] come speak. Mr.
[1:52:16] johnson, go head.
[1:52:17] >> just because
[1:52:18] of restrictions please try to keep your
[1:52:19] comments to three minutes or less
[1:52:22] you can. Thank you.
[1:52:23] >> thank you
[1:52:24] very much. We're in a rush so I will try
[1:52:25] to slow
[1:52:28] everything down for a second. Momentum,
[1:52:30] team work, those are great themes
[1:52:31] by the school
[1:52:34] district thank you
[1:52:36] very much. I will start on refugee
[1:52:37] and in
[1:52:40] fo rt ress, in spirit we
[1:52:43] can trust. In ardo r and thanksgiving
[1:52:44] come have
[1:52:46] a beer
[1:52:49] with us. An
[1:52:52] athlete graduate from t ustin
[1:52:55] in 02. I
[1:52:57] competed internationally. I moved
[1:52:58] my city
[1:53:00] here with an outbarred the future, very
[1:53:01] excited to hear this
[1:53:03] deep discussion this evening. Thank you
[1:53:06] all the public servants and to those who
[1:53:07] spoke I'm here on
[1:53:09] a topic of history. I wanted to put
[1:53:13] in the public mind that this
[1:53:16] week important historical event
[1:53:18] is happening. Tustin high school will
[1:53:19] open
[1:53:22] it's home football game against
[1:53:24] the tritons. They the 11th ranked
[1:53:25] team
[1:53:26] in california. We can beat them we
[1:53:28] have the horses to do
[1:53:29] it. I would like to invite everybody
[1:53:31] in the spirit of community
[1:53:34] to come to that game. At half
[1:53:37] time of that game melissa
[1:53:40] trout has worked to build
[1:53:43] a hall of fame for tustin and
[1:53:45] it's athletes. We will honor the third inducte
[1:53:47] into that organization. The first
[1:53:49] was coach miller
[1:53:52] who
[1:53:55] made the team. The third
[1:53:57] is chris chester, a dear personal friend of
[1:53:58] minute and I carry
[1:54:01] the duty of organizing the community
[1:54:04] supporters around him. A lot of important
[1:54:05] topics
[1:54:07] on the topic of the future and these
[1:54:08] new technologies
[1:54:10] which we are
[1:54:13] going
[1:54:16] to find education. I was taught that
[1:54:17] really
[1:54:18] great businesses and great futures formed
[1:54:19] not
[1:54:22] on new technologies but on ancient
[1:54:25] technology that don't. As we all talk
[1:54:27] here about forming community and the lots
[1:54:28] of land we are
[1:54:30] parceling up I invite everybody to
[1:54:31] think about
[1:54:33] tribes and which tribe you support and
[1:54:34] I invite you to support my
[1:54:37] tribe, the tailors. Join us please
[1:54:40] at an ancient
[1:54:41] gathering, newly formed called game
[1:54:43] craft. Have you been talking about. I
[1:54:46] support that. They are working with
[1:54:47] simple technologies
[1:54:49] like parkbenches
[1:54:52] and beers. Locally brewed beers. You
[1:54:53] can
[1:54:54] join us at 5:00 for that or 7:00 for
[1:54:55] the kickoff and
[1:54:58] half time celebration. I believe
[1:55:01] that these technologies transforming
[1:55:02] in ways
[1:55:03] we don't truly understand. I believe
[1:55:04] the redevelopment
[1:55:06] of tustin is one of the most important
[1:55:07] topics we have so thank you
[1:55:10] for the
[1:55:11] leadership. I believe that there are topic
[1:55:13] that are far bigger being discussed
[1:55:15] in the national state and local level
[1:55:16] that all
[1:55:19] politics is local so I'm happy to
[1:55:20] be here. I
[1:55:22] would be happy to talk to anyone that
[1:55:23] wants
[1:55:24] to come talk football or anything
[1:55:25] else this friday, thank
[1:55:28] you very much.
[1:55:29] >> okay. Thank you
[1:55:32] for your comments. Any time you
[1:55:35] mention beer, councilmember gallagher gets
[1:55:37] excited. Do we have --yeah. I don't know. We need
[1:55:41] maybe the city clerk or staff can
[1:55:43] help coordinate I can't call on hands. If
[1:55:44] we can
[1:55:46] get cards passed out or if --how many want
[1:55:50] to speak? Just two? Three. All
[1:55:51] right. We will go in order that you
[1:55:53] are in. From
[1:55:56] me to back. Sir? You will be
[1:55:57] next and I can't see because of the lights. Third in
[1:55:59] the back.
[1:56:00] >> if
[1:56:01] you can just state your name for the
[1:56:04] record.
[1:56:05] >> my name is si ellis. I'm
[1:56:08] the commander
[1:56:10] of the american legion. We represent
[1:56:13] all the military veterans in the city and
[1:56:14] the reason that
[1:56:17] I came up to speak is
[1:56:20] that I want to
[1:56:21] thank bryan and the orange county
[1:56:23] rescue mission for what they
[1:56:26] do for our veterans,
[1:56:29] for the veteran's
[1:56:31] out post that they support. You do
[1:56:32] a great
[1:56:35] job for our veterans. Thank you.
[1:56:50] >> I
[1:56:51] normally represent the history of
[1:56:53] this town but I also
[1:56:56] represent the people that died --
[1:56:58] that left here. We have been trying
[1:57:00] save something at the hanger for ten
[1:57:02] years and we had an
[1:57:03] event about ten years and I started
[1:57:05] save
[1:57:06] the hanger's.com. We tried to see
[1:57:08] what was going on
[1:57:10] and now I understand more all the things
[1:57:11] you
[1:57:13] are going through. I had no idea how
[1:57:17] complex I knew nobody would
[1:57:19] get together. I --we had a meeting a
[1:57:20] couple of men on
[1:57:23] the board here that basically met
[1:57:24] with
[1:57:26] the general over
[1:57:29] in irvine that are
[1:57:32] --40 to $60 million
[1:57:33] museum. I hope that people don't just
[1:57:35] go to the
[1:57:37] flying leathernecks and then to hollywood
[1:57:41] go to some other
[1:57:44] area. That
[1:57:46] stop here and go to a building that
[1:57:49] would love to save that used to bring
[1:57:53] in helicopters safely and also
[1:57:55] the blimps. I want that building and
[1:57:58] the towers saved someplace even if
[1:57:59] it's next to
[1:58:02] the hanger that maybe torn down at
[1:58:05] least we can tell people your
[1:58:07] son or grandfather didn't die in vain. We
[1:58:08] have
[1:58:10] the memory of him and also all the other people that
[1:58:11] were there. The
[1:58:14] people that fed them. The people
[1:58:17] that had all the fun
[1:58:18] and enjoy going to the church and
[1:58:20] being married there which
[1:58:22] was torn down. So what I'm saying a
[1:58:26] lot
[1:58:28] of memories. This is a military town. I
[1:58:29] grew up as a military kid traving
[1:58:31] every two years. Is there pollution
[1:58:34] this area? Absolutely. I remember
[1:58:35] being up in
[1:58:37] marin count which where the planes
[1:58:38] with coming in to land
[1:58:41] and watching my dad and having sometimes
[1:58:42] the
[1:58:44] guys have to dump the fuel in
[1:58:47] the bay. So, wherever there is military
[1:58:48] you will
[1:58:50] find this pollution and we were
[1:58:52] informed by the gentleman that took over
[1:58:55] san diego that was watching the clean up
[1:58:56] from --we
[1:58:59] are dealing the navy here. They said
[1:59:02] to me actually --emailed to us
[1:59:04] that they were going to condemn the
[1:59:05] area
[1:59:07] for a decade where the building is. They
[1:59:08] said we
[1:59:11] love your idea for a museum. We always
[1:59:13] have but you can't keep it here. Have
[1:59:14] you to move it and I gave that
[1:59:17] information to the mayor and the mayor
[1:59:18] said
[1:59:20] I didn't
[1:59:22] know that. We still have a lack of
[1:59:23] communication
[1:59:25] with the navy and this gentleman stood
[1:59:26] up and talked about
[1:59:29] it. I was in the military, yeah, I
[1:59:30] know. It
[1:59:32] takes a long time to get
[1:59:34] an answer. Please think beyond all
[1:59:35] the wonderful
[1:59:37] things that you guys are doing and I
[1:59:38] think it's
[1:59:39] fabulous what you are doing. Please
[1:59:41] save something for the memory of
[1:59:43] the people that made it possible for
[1:59:44] you to do what
[1:59:47] ru doing today. Thank you.
[1:59:50] thank you.
[1:59:56] and now -- sir, go head. Go
[1:59:58] head. Just let everybody know. It's 7:01 the
[1:59:59] open house is open
[2:00:01] I think. Once we are done we will
[2:00:02] all move up
[2:00:05] there.
[2:00:06] >> hello. I'm just
[2:00:08] a resident here. I really appreciated
[2:00:11] one of the -- theme of this nights
[2:00:12] which
[2:00:14] was safety. For the schools
[2:00:17] --especially with
[2:00:19] the armstrong bridge because car death
[2:00:20] deaths
[2:00:23] one of the biggest dangers for children
[2:00:24] and for
[2:00:25] just us adults too. We deserve to
[2:00:26] live too. I
[2:00:28] really appreciate some of that safety
[2:00:29] and I hope that you
[2:00:32] keep in mind with these
[2:00:35] development plans about how
[2:00:38] to minimize traffic
[2:00:40] violence, especially for a lot of
[2:00:41] these facilities which
[2:00:45] are public
[2:00:47] goods and schools, so, finding ways
[2:00:51] that we can get
[2:00:53] people around in these new communities
[2:00:54] safely. Thank you.
[2:00:57] all right. Thank you for your
[2:00:58] comments. Do we have any other questions
[2:01:00] to speak in
[2:01:03] the room? Anyone online?
[2:01:06] no.
[2:01:07] >> okay. See what
[2:01:12] agenda says. All right. No
[2:01:15] vote is required. Because
[2:01:17] it's a receive and file item. So the recommendation
[2:01:20] that the city council -- receive and
[2:01:24] file the presentation and we
[2:01:25] will. Mr. City manager do you have
[2:01:27] a report?
[2:01:28] >> no report
[2:01:29] tonight.
[2:01:30] >> mr. City attorney. >>
[2:01:31] no further report.
[2:01:32] >> thank
[2:01:33] you. Bring it back to council and
[2:01:35] will encourage us to be brief.
[2:01:36] >> mr.
[2:01:37] mayor. We have one request to speak
[2:01:39] out in the atrium.
[2:01:41] okay. We will bring it back to the public comment.
[2:01:49] >> if you are automatic in the atrium
[2:01:51] and
[2:01:53] you wanted to formerly address the
[2:01:54] council
[2:01:57] please come in this room.
[2:02:09] hello. I'm
[2:02:11] a father, community member and just
[2:02:15] wanted to speak on if
[2:02:18] the level of remediation that is going on
[2:02:19] with in
[2:02:21] the area of the base
[2:02:24] is that based on the uses
[2:02:26] of the lra identities in the area
[2:02:30] like --is the -- are they going to
[2:02:33] go more extensively
[2:02:34] on the --mitigation of any of the
[2:02:36] pollution on the area based on
[2:02:39] what the
[2:02:40] lra chooses to implement in certain
[2:02:41] areas of the base?
[2:02:42] >> and I know
[2:02:43] the
[2:02:44] staff will be available to address your
[2:02:45] question out there. We aren't supposed
[2:02:47] to engage in dialogue. Ly use my public
[2:02:48] comments in
[2:02:50] a second to kind of generally answer
[2:02:51] your question. Thank
[2:02:53] you for your question.
[2:02:54] >> thank you. >>
[2:02:55] anyone else
[2:02:57] want to address the council
[2:03:00] or the lra? Council acting as the
[2:03:03] lra. We will move back into the council
[2:03:05] comments and reports.
[2:03:06] >> thank you. Thank
[2:03:08] you mayor. I appreciate that question. Now
[2:03:09] I'm curious about it
[2:03:12] too. I will hold the rest
[2:03:15] for the
[2:03:17] next meeting. For more join us at
[2:03:20] the sunset market. Hope to see you
[2:03:24] in two days.
[2:03:26] thank you.
[2:03:27] >> the purposes of -- I
[2:03:28] have no
[2:03:29] comments, we will table them for the
[2:03:30] next meeting.
[2:03:32] thank you. Councilmember gallagher.
[2:03:36] thank you.
[2:03:37] >> we will
[2:03:39] follow the
[2:03:42] pattern.
[2:03:43] >> thank you. I
[2:03:45] know staff will get a more detailed
[2:03:48] and technical answer. There
[2:03:51] requirements to remediate. It's based
[2:03:53] federal law and state law. There are
[2:03:54] environmental hazards that
[2:03:56] are identified by the state that go
[2:03:57] onto register. We are kind