[0:00] Welcome everyone to our meeting tonight

[0:02] . If there are any additions or

[0:06] removals to the agenda. We are

[0:13] scheduled for an executive session

[0:17] tonight. It's right? And does that

[0:26] include hiring new employees for the

[0:30] garage?

[0:34] It's a discussion about those issues.

[0:35] Discussion. It's a personnel issue, a

[0:38] personnel issue.

[0:39] Staff. Very good.

[0:41] Then I would add just two

[0:43] discussions so that it is on record that we

[0:46] are having them.

[0:48] Are you saying there are two different ones?

[0:49] Yes, that's what I did. Yes. Any other

[0:53] additions or removals? Okay,

[0:58] approval of the...there are two minutes. One

[1:04] is on Monday, September 14 at 4:40

[1:08] p.m. And the other one is on September 14 at

[1:12] 6:30 p.m. Is there a motion?

[1:16] I accept the motion. I

[1:17] second. Is

[1:18] there any other discussion? Okay, since there isn't

[1:21] one, everyone who is in favor

[1:22] of the motion, please say yes.

[1:25] Anyone against it?

[1:28] Highway Commissioner's Report

[1:30] Just an update.

[1:33] We finally managed to cut the grass in the entire

[1:35] town one last time. I don't think there are any

[1:38] other places that need to be

[1:40] cut off that I know of at this time.

[1:43] Finally completed. The grader is

[1:48] waiting for some parts for

[1:49] that blade. And they're supposed to

[1:51] come and fix it on Friday. Once that's

[1:54] fixed, we can begin with the

[1:55] winter leveling.

[2:00] We also received two offers for salt. One from

[2:06] Cargill, one from Avalanchi. Do

[2:10] we even dare to ask?

[2:11] Yes. Yes. I

[2:13] 'm already seated, go ahead.

[2:14] Well, Cargill only gave us a

[2:18] price for plain, untreated salt. And that

[2:26] was $106.50 per ton. They only

[2:30] considered us for 400 tons. I don't

[2:32] know why, but usually

[2:34] we...

[2:35] If my memory serves me right, that's a

[2:36] difference of about 10 dollars. I think

[2:38] last year it was like 96 or 98 around

[2:40] there.

[2:41] dollars and that will also be reflected

[2:43] in the other one.

[2:44] Good. I

[2:46] would have thought that with

[2:47] fuel prices it would be much worse.

[2:48] Mhm. $106. And 50 cents is

[2:53] Cargill and then Avalanchi came in with

[2:57] $110.25. It's still

[2:59] an increase.

[3:00] For the untreated. So that's

[3:01] comparable to that. So, how much?

[3:03] $4 or $3.75 more for

[3:06] Avalanchi.

[3:07] And remind me, we've been working

[3:10] with Avalanchi because they're more

[3:12] reliable and it's been a better product,

[3:13] right?

[3:14] Yes, and everything is stored indoors

[3:15] .

[3:17] That's what I thought.

[3:17] And I mean, I make a call and if

[3:20] we run out, if I call

[3:22] early enough in the morning,

[3:24] Avalanchi will have it here that afternoon.

[3:28] Because the service is amazing.

[3:30] I usually try to give them that week

[3:32] or so to see what's in the

[3:34] warehouse and make sure it's enough for us. Um,

[3:38] then, $110.25 per Avalanchi for

[3:41] regular salt and $125.50 for

[3:44] treated salt, which is $15 per ton more

[3:48] . And that's all relevant, you know,

[3:54] that increase.

[3:57] Were we...using treated salt or

[3:59] treating it ourselves last year?

[4:00] We opted for the treated one because it was

[4:02] almost as cheap.

[4:04] Buy the spray product.

[4:07] And what we'll do now is buy;

[4:10] I want to buy the untreated one at

[4:12] first until it gets cold.

[4:18] OK. Yes I understand.

[4:19] Which will be cheaper.

[4:21] Furthermore, it does not affect...the property of

[4:24] others.

[4:27] Mhm. It does

[4:28] not affect other people's property

[4:30] when it is not treated.

[4:34] When the ground is frozen it's

[4:36] different, isn't it? That's when...

[4:37] Mhm. Well, no, the activation of the

[4:40] salt and all that is due to the treatment. Alright

[4:45] .

[4:46] So I don't know. Do you want to wait?

[4:49] Present a motion.

[4:50] I support that now or...

[4:54] I mean, everything is relevant with...

[4:56] We need the salt. It's

[4:57] not going to go down in price. I

[4:58] assure you of that. Um, I'll introduce the motion

[5:01] to approve Avalanchi as our

[5:03] salt supplier. I

[5:04] second the motion.

[5:05] For this year.

[5:06] Very good. And she is seconded by George.

[5:10] Any other conversations or comments?

[5:14] Okay, everyone who supports

[5:15] the motion, please say yes.

[5:16] Aye.

[5:17] Anyone against it? Cash, do you have anything

[5:19] else? That's

[5:19] all I have.

[5:20] Very well, approval of the

[5:22] payment orders from the select board. They are

[5:24] floating and adrift. They're right

[5:26] here. Up there. So, if

[5:27] anyone wants to see how we're

[5:29] spending their taxes. Um, do we have any

[5:33] guests tonight? Any

[5:41] comments from the audience? Very well,

[5:45] new topics. Appoint a person

[5:49] to complete and submit ballots on

[5:53] behalf of Clarendon Borough for

[5:56] the appointment of four

[6:00] PACIF board directors and one

[6:04] VERB board director. So we're

[6:09] looking for nominations for that.

[6:13] This is just the voting process.

[6:15] So, I say, I...I see here. I just

[6:28] want to see...And for each of them they

[6:38] only nominated one...so, for...

[6:42] PACIF they only nominated four and

[6:45] for VERB they only nominated one. So it's

[6:48] not a contested contest where you

[6:51] have to try to figure out who's

[6:53] who. So, um, I will proceed to

[6:57] introduce a motion to authorize the

[7:00] secretary to do so on behalf of

[7:03] the board. I

[7:05] second the motion. Any

[7:08] further comments?

[7:08] Willing.

[7:09] I agree.

[7:12] Very well, everyone who is in favor

[7:13] of the motion, please say yes.

[7:15] Anyone against it? George, I'm

[7:18] voting.

[7:18] Yes, let me see those instructions.

[7:20] All this for

[7:22] Yes, I have it.

[7:22] And I know we just authorized you to

[7:25] do that, George, but I mean,

[7:27] based on the fact that there are only

[7:28] four of them.

[7:29] The designated people, that is, me. It's

[7:32] not a big deal.

[7:33] Unless you have a

[7:34] major objection against someone you know

[7:35] there, I think what we're doing is very straightforward

[7:37] . So, I don't

[7:38] have any. It gives us a small

[7:43] clue. Uh, a short uh review of

[7:46] who each one is.

[7:48] Correct.

[7:49] Yes that's fine.

[7:50] And they are all, from what I could

[7:52] quickly see,

[7:54] municipal officials from other places. So

[7:56] , yes. Yes that's fine.

[8:00] Very good. Does

[8:02] the president have to sign that?

[8:04] No, we authorize the secretary.

[8:06] Yes, okay.

[8:06] Yes, it's just one person. The secretary

[8:08] . Yes. They

[8:10] should probably keep that

[8:12] signature under lock and key, because you never know

[8:14] . And while we're at it, Cash, I want to

[8:19] congratulate you on your report about salt

[8:22] , because you held back and didn't use

[8:25] overly salty language.

[8:29] Thank you, Wesley Pepper.

[8:32] Oh, how much wisdom. Very good.

[8:39] So, uh, it was proposed and seconded

[8:42] by... Did anyone second that? It was

[8:46] me.

[8:46] Okay, Donnie.

[8:47] did it.

[8:48] Very well, everyone who is in favor

[8:49] of the motion, please say yes.

[8:51] Anyone against it? Unfinished business,

[8:54] anything? Very good. Um Kim, is there anything you'd

[9:05] like to report? I have

[9:06] nothing planned for tonight.

[9:08] Okay. Are they ready

[9:10] ?

[9:12] Yes.

[9:13] Okay, on behalf of Bob and me, we've been

[9:16] touring the cemeteries, uh,

[9:19] as we always do. But we have

[9:21] identified some trees that

[9:23] need to be cut down. We've had a

[9:25] few offers. Some have arrived.

[9:29] I have an offer. I have a

[9:32] Clarence Chipman Hart section. They are

[9:35] applying for a Volga grant, which will

[9:37] probably cover everything, or at least should

[9:39] cover everything we want to do.

[9:44] We have another tree, a large old linden tree

[9:46] , which is right on the northern line. I

[9:49] went to see Mike McLellan and Eric and they

[9:51] told me to do whatever was

[9:54] necessary. It was shedding branches

[9:57] last winter, two branches fell this

[9:59] spring. So, I got a

[10:03] quote and an offer from

[10:05] Ben Kersten. Is that Benjamin Kersten?

[10:08] And well, $1,500 for removing

[10:11] four trees. It comes out and has four

[10:14] logs that go up. So let's

[10:19] talk to Heidi. I have

[10:22] enough funds in our account, so

[10:25] let's cut down that tree. You ca

[10:27] n't drive a truck back there

[10:28] , right? So they have to

[10:30] scale all of that. I do

[10:32] n't think he owns a truck.

[10:33] Oh. Do

[10:34] n't know. He said he's going to lower it with

[10:35] ropes.

[10:36] Oh, okay. So, yes, he does

[10:37] .

[10:38] He doesn't have a crane truck. I was going

[10:39] to say that I don't think he has a

[10:40] crane.

[10:41] He climbs.

[10:42] I mean, yeah, you can get back there. You ca

[10:45] n't go into the back road with

[10:48] anything big because you can't

[10:50] turn around, but

[10:51] unless you

[10:52] had something you could back up and

[10:54] reach for, but he says he'll lower

[10:55] everything with ropes.

[10:57] Okay, well, that's a good deal

[10:59] then for that amount of money.

[11:01] Yes, I mean, and we have a couple of

[11:04] others, but we can wait with them,

[11:07] except I'm applying for a

[11:09] Voca grant and we should be able to

[11:12] cover the extra work with that,

[11:15] so. Alright

[11:16] . Thank you for the report.

[11:20] Anyone else?

[11:23] Mr. President, if I may, I would

[11:25] like to congratulate Kevin and Bob

[11:27] Underhill on the exceptional

[11:29] presentation they gave to the people.

[11:33] What was the date again, Kevin?

[11:35] September 20th.

[11:36] A very

[11:40] beautiful ceremony with some young people

[11:43] involved with music, which

[11:46] made it even more special. It was one of

[11:51] our city's efforts to

[11:52] celebrate the country's 250th anniversary.

[11:55] Well done.

[11:56] Yes. It was good. I've

[11:58] only heard positive things. So

[12:00] , excellent work. Excellent

[12:02] work.

[12:03] Gloria, do you have anything?

[12:05] No. The elections are coming up in

[12:06] November.

[12:07] Yes.

[12:08] They're sending all the ballots

[12:09] by mail this week. They have until

[12:10] October 1st. They haven't sent them to

[12:12] our town yet.

[12:13] Oh, they haven't sent them yet?

[12:15] I check every day. Let the

[12:17] post office know they're on their way

[12:18] .

[12:20] That will be fun.

[12:21] But if you can, bring them back.

[12:24] Yes, don't send them by mail.

[12:25] Do not return them by mail. If

[12:27] possible.

[12:31] Were you signaling to us, Ed?

[12:33] Oh, when you guys have a moment,

[12:34] I have some information if you

[12:36] want it.

[12:37] Okay, go ahead.

[12:38] Last time we were looking for tires for

[12:39] the tractor.

[12:40] Mhm.

[12:41] Oh, yes. They have them

[12:42] at Pete's. I don't know what

[12:44] the big problem is. They weren't 18 4 by

[12:48] 24. They were 12 4 by 24. They had one in

[12:52] stock. They didn't have one for tomorrow

[12:54] . They cost $635 each at the

[12:56] town's price. When you load and

[12:59] assemble them, it's $200 more.

[13:02] So, they told you that I gave them

[13:03] the wrong measurement.

[13:05] Oh, okay. So, do they have them

[13:07] now?

[13:07] Yes.

[13:08] Okay. I'll

[13:10] add that. I bought two

[13:11] used tires to get by.

[13:15] And they cost $100 each.

[13:17] Even Amazon had them. $520

[13:20] each. But you need to find

[13:21] someone to install them. Just one point of

[13:24] interest about salt. Remember, if

[13:28] you add water to that salt to reach

[13:31] 23%, it goes from 17° above zero, when

[13:33] the salt stops working, to 13 below

[13:36] zero. It lowers the melting point considerably.

[13:43] Mhm. You need to use less salt

[13:45] . If you use salt and sand, it would be much

[13:47] better for our water. We already have a

[13:50] problem here with the water in Clarendon

[13:52] . That's not it. Did I

[13:55] make you understand? That worked well, I

[13:56] thought.

[13:58] Uh, and going on that point, you know,

[14:00] I mentioned that maybe we should move on

[14:02] to the next smaller sieve,

[14:04] a little finer sand like

[14:06] everyone else does and mix it in. I think

[14:11] ...

[14:11] Add water to the sand? Is that what

[14:12] you mean?

[14:13] What did you say?

[14:15] To get the When you add water,

[14:16] you said.

[14:17] Add water to our salt.

[14:19] Make brine.

[14:20] and put it together with the

[14:22] sand.

[14:22] Yes. Now, when we put tanks in

[14:25] the sprinklers or spreaders, when

[14:26] that comes out, it's fine. Two things happen

[14:29] . It grips the road better

[14:31] that way.

[14:33] Yes.

[14:33] And the grip comes from the sand.

[14:35] Yes.

[14:36] This money, every dollar we invest

[14:39] in that salt, I know we have to have it

[14:42] . But let's try to reduce it because,

[14:44] as I said, sooner or later we won't have

[14:46] drinking water.

[14:48] Well, I thought it worked pretty

[14:49] well last year with the

[14:50] salt and sand mixture. That worked well. We

[14:51] did it, it worked. We only used it

[14:54] once or twice.

[14:55] Mhm. You

[14:56] get it better alone because the

[14:59] darkness of the sand with the salt

[15:01] will help melt

[15:02] Mother Nature, the sun shines

[15:03] on that dark sand. It makes salt

[15:05] work. You know, it's science

[15:07] you learned in fifth grade.

[15:10] But I mean, just... And I guess

[15:12] your new truck will probably arrive

[15:15] around February, you know.

[15:18] You thought it was delayed, didn't

[15:19] you? That's what people believe. They were supposed to

[15:21] start on

[15:23] December 1st. Everything was delayed a couple of

[15:26] months, right? Okay, going back for a

[15:31] moment to the subject of roads.

[15:34] Most of those plates that we

[15:37] ...

[15:38] Yes...

[15:38] we had a brief conversation, you and

[15:40] I talked. So we chose the

[15:43] upgraded ones that we hope will last. They

[15:46] won't come here to fix that.

[15:49] Mjm. It

[15:50] took them...it's going to take them two weeks to

[15:52] come and repair a half-

[15:53] million-dollar machine.

[15:54] No, they're coming on Friday.

[15:56] That's what they said on Friday.

[15:58] Yes, and it broke last week.

[15:59] They said two weeks.

[16:00] I had to help them. There will

[16:02] be one. There is one

[16:04] , and I was finally able to contact

[16:08] Ryan this morning. He finally

[16:11] called me back. What happened is that they have

[16:14] these centers where women

[16:16] answer all the calls and stuff. And

[16:20] it was...he said he apologized and that there was

[16:22] a direct communication problem

[16:24] in the matter.

[16:26] But the parts have been ordered and

[16:28] will arrive then. Good. OK.

[16:30] And yes...it's assumed he already received the

[16:33] pieces in Richmond. They're

[16:37] scheduled to come on Friday and we're going to install them,

[16:40] and we also want our

[16:42] mechanic to show us the turnstile

[16:45] where the blade rotates.

[16:47] Yes.

[16:48] Because there are fittings there, about how to

[16:50] actually adjust those fittings. So you don't have to

[16:55] call a mechanic to

[16:57] come and do it every time. If we know

[17:00] how to do it.

[17:01] What are you doing with

[17:03] brine production again this year

[17:05] ? We haven't

[17:05] done it. I mean, we're not

[17:08] ready for that.

[17:11] I'd just say that someone owns

[17:13] that dealership up there. And if it's

[17:16] a call center problem,

[17:17] find out who owns the

[17:19] dealership and I bet they'll get it

[17:20] working for $500,000. Because they do

[17:24] n't want that to be known among the

[17:26] people when you talk about it.

[17:28] I had a good conversation with two

[17:29] different people.

[17:30] For the... Oh, you mean the

[17:31] grader?

[17:31] On the grader.

[17:32] Lastly, did we ever load those

[17:34] tires? I

[17:37] think so. There are two...the grader

[17:40] has...it has

[17:40] n't had its tires loaded.

[17:41] The front ones are loaded because

[17:43] the dealer recommended not loading

[17:45] the rear ones and we only loaded the

[17:46] front ones, right?

[17:47] Correct. Why is that?

[17:49] the torque risk was going to be a

[17:52] bigger problem on the front table.

[17:56] When that grader was built, it

[17:58] was designed with the compactor at the

[18:00] rear. That compactor

[18:02] probably weighed half as much as the

[18:04] tandem dump truck. It was made

[18:06] to lower, release

[18:07] hydraulically, compacted road.

[18:10] You load the tires, where's

[18:12] the weight? Let's think about this. Where

[18:14] 's the weight? The weight is only in

[18:17] the tires. It's not in the

[18:19] machine. It has nothing to do with

[18:21] torque. I mean, I

[18:24] 've checked. I asked.

[18:26] The board is only basing its decision on what the

[18:28] distributor supposedly told us.

[18:30] Everyone around us has

[18:32] had the same problem with the same

[18:33] brand of graders. They are loading

[18:36] tires. If you want it to dig to

[18:39] remove the potholes, you have to put

[18:40] weight on it. It doesn't even do what the

[18:42] old, worn-out one used to do.

[18:45] The old one was a much

[18:46] heavier machine. In other words, it had steel.

[18:49] TRUE. Yes, much smaller

[18:52] too.

[18:54] Half the weight.

[18:56] A question.

[18:57] Carol Austin, speaking of potholes, I

[19:00] wonder if the board could tell me

[19:03] why we haven't leveled

[19:07] Quarterline Road all summer.

[19:11] Yes, it has leveled out. There has been

[19:15] spot leveling where the

[19:16] holes were.

[19:20] Could someone perhaps meet

[19:22] me? Maybe all of you for

[19:25] a walk along Quarterline Road?

[19:30] Is this, is this beyond your house

[19:32] towards the...?

[19:33] It's the entire Quarterline.

[19:36] From the ball field?

[19:37] Yes, the hill is wrong again. They

[19:40] have it on all their

[19:42] dirt roads because, number one, we don't

[19:44] level them enough. You know,

[19:47] I learned about grading from Carl

[19:48] Lamphere, who was probably the

[19:50] best man who ever operated a

[19:52] grader. And he told my brother

[19:55] and me, "You have to level your

[19:56] paths approximately every 6 weeks

[19:58] ." "Just something automatic." And sometimes

[20:02] you have to level them, wait two

[20:03] days, wait two weeks and level them

[20:05] again, because if you have too many

[20:07] bumps, you're not going to remove them, you're going to leave

[20:09] something there. If you can't get it to

[20:12] compact again, it will

[20:14] reappear. Just like when Cash came by

[20:16] today with a front-end loader and put down some

[20:18] free material, which had

[20:20] softball-sized rocks

[20:22] that are still in the way. And

[20:24] when we had just passed by, half of them had already

[20:26] been taken away by the cars that

[20:29] passed by because they are things that are

[20:30] too big. But neither here nor

[20:33] there. The problem is that the roads are

[20:37] not level enough. The

[20:39] grader needs to be on those

[20:41] roads. And you have the washings from which

[20:44] these deluges, rains, come, which

[20:46] none of us can avoid, and

[20:48] everything else. But if

[20:52] gullies form and you don't address them

[20:53] immediately to eliminate them, the water

[20:55] simply continues to flow down the path

[20:58] . The trenches never form; We have

[21:00] some large, beautiful ditches where

[21:03] a car can fit, but the water never reaches

[21:05] them because it doesn't flow down there.

[21:08] Mr. President.

[21:09] Mhm.

[21:11] I would like to thank Jim and Ed for their

[21:15] continued interest in our journeys.

[21:19] I think it's important for people to

[21:21] express themselves. I think that in the future we

[21:25] may have to include it on the agenda,

[21:27] following the protocol we have,

[21:29] given the amount of debate that has

[21:31] arisen.

[21:33] One thing leads to another, but we must

[21:35] decide whether to add ballast to those tires

[21:37] if we want that motor grader

[21:39] to reach its full potential. Just

[21:43] think about it. If that machine is

[21:45] designed to carry a compactor

[21:48] on the back, I bet it weighs about 10,000

[21:50] pounds. What are 3,000 or 4,000 pounds

[21:53] of ballast compared to what

[21:55] the tires will do to that machine?

[21:58] Think about it carefully. I mean, if

[22:01] they want that motor grader to work

[22:03] properly. It's a beautiful machine.

[22:10] What can be done? Can they take care

[22:13] of adding ballast to those tires?

[22:15] Yes, I already did it. But the distributor

[22:18] recommended against it. Although I understand about

[22:22] the warranty and things like that. I was going

[22:25] to say that the other question I would have

[22:27] regarding this is the issue of the

[22:29] warranty. Because it's still under

[22:32] warranty. So, figuring it out...

[22:36] Mhm.

[22:37] All of that. And yes, can you put in

[22:41] writing in an email whether

[22:44] we would still be covered? Would we be...

[22:46] ?

[22:47] The implications of that.

[22:47] Yes, because I know that... We

[22:50] will request it in writing. We'll

[22:51] follow up on that this week. Are

[22:53] you okay, Cash?

[22:54] Oh, yes, definitely.

[22:54] And we'll see if we can achieve something...

[22:57] That's the best thing, that's the best step to

[22:59] take.

[23:00] And then move forward.

[23:03] Yes, the compactor you're talking about, the one in the

[23:06] back. It's a roller, right?

[23:08] Yes, I'd say without counting...

[23:11] like a vibrating roller that

[23:12] attaches to the rear? Does it just roll

[23:15] as dead weight?

[23:16] Flat wheels only. Do you remember the

[23:17] old compactors they used on

[23:18] them?

[23:19] Yes. Yes.

[23:20] Basically the same idea. It's just

[23:22] deadlift. It's designed to go

[23:23] behind the machine when you do the

[23:25] final pass.

[23:25] Which, in my opinion, seems

[23:27] important. Instead of leaving it up there

[23:28] dancing.

[23:29] Absolutely. Because Berlin, or what the

[23:31] heck is the name of that other town

[23:33] near Montpelier? They have

[23:36] one.

[23:36] Sweep. Sweep.

[23:38] They have one on the back of

[23:39] theirs and that's where I saw them for the

[23:40] first time. So I made a couple of

[23:42] calls and found out why the machine was

[23:44] built to carry that.

[23:46] Mjm.

[23:47] You know, which makes perfect sense

[23:49] because...

[23:50] was that attached then? To the

[23:52] back? It

[23:53] goes in the back.

[23:54] Like a trailer?

[23:55] It's as fixed as a snowplow. And it goes up

[23:57] and down with hydraulic cylinders.

[24:00] You can control it directly from

[24:01] the cabin. So when you're

[24:02] leveling, it's up. It's like having

[24:04] a spare axle on a truck. You don't

[24:06] want it low because you'll lose

[24:07] traction. You

[24:08] lower it on the last pass.

[24:10] But when you look at that from the

[24:13] center point, for every inch from the

[24:15] center of the drive axles, that

[24:17] probably adds a ton per

[24:19] inch with the weight transfer,

[24:21] you know? So like I said, loading

[24:26] those tires isn't going to hurt

[24:28] anything. Use beet juice, not chloride,

[24:30] so nothing rots. It won't

[24:32] affect the torque at all. It will just give you

[24:35] more traction on that tire. The

[24:38] only place you'll see that weight is

[24:40] when you weigh the entire machine.

[24:42] And that's what I think the

[24:44] distributor was referring to, as I

[24:46] understand it, is that by putting that

[24:48] extra weight on the tire, you're pushing more

[24:50] towards the ground, so to speak, and

[24:53] they're worried that something between the

[24:55] tire and the

[24:57] drive gear might break in there. That's right

[25:00] , that's how I understood it. And

[25:02] you know, you put weight on that tire,

[25:04] press hard, it's not going to slip.

[25:07] I suppose you know what I mean.

[25:09] From that point of view, I suppose

[25:11] the blade is already broken because the

[25:13] solution is some permanent bushings

[25:14] that go there. Why on earth didn't

[25:17] they build a half-

[25:18] million-dollar machine with something that wouldn't

[25:20] break?

[25:20] Exact.

[25:21] Well, I think that's the question about it

[25:23] .

[25:25] things that I would be

[25:26] emphasizing a lot. Especially

[25:27] knowing who owns that

[25:28] dealership up there. Saying that

[25:30] a machine was stopped for two weeks,

[25:31] that's not right. It's not what we

[25:34] paid for.

[25:41] What are your thoughts, final comment?

[25:43] Looking

[25:44] again, I'll get it. I

[25:46] could deal with it. Get in

[25:47] writing what they suggest

[25:49] so we can have it and proceed

[25:51] from there. I mean, like I said, I'll have

[25:53] the vendor come and meet

[25:55] with a couple of members of the

[25:56] software team. And that they send an

[25:59] email or something like that.

[26:01] It's a shame we've lost

[26:02] ground. We thought we had a

[26:03] new one, but we lost ground. Think about it,

[26:07] I guess we should have gotten that

[26:08] old contraption working again.

[26:14] Well, maybe we should have some

[26:16] kind of workshop where we invite Ed and

[26:18] Jim to share all their ideas with us

[26:20] . That, you know, might be more

[26:25] beneficial if it were done at the end or in the

[26:28] middle of a board meeting. It's

[26:32] , you know, if you want to bring a

[26:34] motion for that, George, it's up to you

[26:37] , but I think so,

[26:39] in the short term. It's just

[26:40] a suggestion.

[26:41] If you meet with Kim and get some

[26:44] information, I'd like to see it in

[26:46] writing.

[26:49] OK. That's how we have it.

[26:51] No, I mean, that's why I think they

[26:53] should be able to put it in writing if

[26:55] there is one, you know, the

[26:56] main question is, does it affect the warranty? And

[26:59] the second one should be a

[27:02] fairly direct, quick, and simple answer.

[27:04] That's what you'd think.

[27:05] That shouldn't be difficult. We're

[27:07] talking about something simple, it should be. It's

[27:09] interesting because it's

[27:10] brief and direct.

[27:11] I spoke with two different towns and

[27:12] got almost the same grader. Very

[27:15] similar. I mean,

[27:17] different sizes or whatever, and they say to

[27:20] load the front, that's all. Did

[27:22] they carry the front line?

[27:23] That's how it is.

[27:25] Good. Well. I mean, simply.

[27:29] But don't forget you have a

[27:31] 14-foot blade there, which was dragging

[27:33] material. Correct. Push that out of the

[27:37] way and you'll lift something, maybe it will

[27:38] require a couple more passes

[27:40] to achieve it.

[27:42] Well, as I said, we can get it

[27:44] in writing and start from there.

[27:47] Oh, definitely.

[27:48] That's the starting point.

[27:52] Very good. Anything else, anyone? Um.

[28:02] I think that. Let's move on to the topics of the

[28:06] select board and then we'll get into

[28:09] some executive sessions. Do you have

[28:13] any other concerns, Cash?

[28:15] No, I'm ready.

[28:16] George?

[28:17] I'm ready for now.

[28:20] Well.

[28:21] Cash, the only thing I was going to

[28:23] follow up on is that I know that at the

[28:24] last meeting you mentioned a couple of

[28:26] roads that don't receive state aid and

[28:28] asked someone about line marking

[28:30] . I was wondering if we had

[28:31] any updates. They've been

[28:32] busy paving.

[28:34] Yes, so nothing yet.

[28:35] Yes.

[28:37] Donny?

[28:39] Nothing that comes to mind, Mr.

[28:41] President. I had something in mind but I

[28:43] forgot it, so it wasn't that

[28:44] important. It could

[28:45] n't have been that important. It

[28:46] wasn't that important. Are you going to

[28:47] write it down? I know I should have written it

[28:48] down.

[28:50] Things that come with age.

[28:51] So, how old are you turning, Don? I'm turning

[28:54] 60 this year.

[28:56] My God, you're still a young man.

[28:58] Yes.

[29:00] No, I have no comment, George. I just

[29:04] turned 79.

[29:06] Um, so, Mr. President,

[29:07] I propose we go into

[29:09] executive session tonight, with no

[29:11] time limit, because we have quite a lot

[29:13] to discuss. Um, and two

[29:17] different staff discussions. And I think

[29:23] we'll start, um, just so the public

[29:25] knows what we're doing. Uh,

[29:26] we're having a discussion with the

[29:27] city clerk, I think, to

[29:28] begin with. And then we have, uh, more

[29:31] deliberations. Um, people have been

[29:34] looking at the posts. We have been

[29:36] interviewing a member of the

[29:38] road maintenance team. Um, so

[29:40] we'll continue those discussions

[29:42] tonight after we've conducted two

[29:44] rounds of interviews.

[29:45] Yes. Then.

[29:47] Is that a motion?

[29:48] That is a motion to enter into

[29:49] executive session.

[29:51] Any comments? All those who

[29:54] support the motion, please say

[29:55] yes.

[29:56] Anyone against it?

Clarendon Select Board - September 28, 2026

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