Community Protection and Economic Development Committee

Cobourg · 2024-02-07 · More Cobourg meetings

Agenda

[0:32] Traditional Land Acknowledgement
[1:08] Introduction of Addendum Items
[1:23] Confirmation of Agenda
[1:26] Confirmation of the February 7, 2024 Community Services, Protection, and Economic Development Standing Committee Agenda
[2:00] Disclosure of Pecuniary (Financial) Interest
[2:08] Community Announcements
[3:12] Delegations
[3:19] Outside Presentation / Information from Advisory Committees or Task Forces
[3:21] Memo from the Downtown Business Improvement Area regarding Addressing Downtown Parking Concerns for Economic Development
[7:31] Consent Agenda
[22:01] Report No. COMM-2024-003 from Director of Community Services regarding Canadian Fire Fighters Museum Negotiations Update
[54:54] Items Extracted from Consent Agenda
[54:56] Notice of Motion
[1:17:38] Departmental Updates/Discussion
[1:27:35] Adjournment

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[0:16] All right, it's 930. We're going to call the community
[0:19] service, protection and economical. Development standing committee to order. The
[0:29] traditional acknowledgment, the town of Coberg respectfully acknowledges that we
[0:34] are located in the traditional treaty territory of the Mississauga
[0:39] and Chippewa nations. Collectively known as Williams Treaty's first nation,
[0:43] including. Curve, Lake Hawatha, Alderville, Scoogog Island, Rama, Bozolay and
[0:50] Georgina Islands First Nation the town of Coberg respectfully acknowledges
[0:55] that the Williams trees First Nation have been Stewarts and
[0:58] caretakers of these lands and waters and that today remain
[1:03] vigilant. Over their. Health and integrity. For generations to come.
[1:10] We are all treaty people. At this time, the introduction
[1:14] of the denim items is 3.1. It is there on
[1:20] the agenda. It's the notice of motion from the mayor.
[1:25] At this time, we're going to. Confirm the agenda. Can
[1:30] I have a mover? Councilor Bureau. Your worship. Any questions?
[1:40] Or discussion on any items on that. Just so the
[1:45] committee is aware that the clerk's department did add that
[1:48] correspondence from Gail. Raymont. To the parking issue, so that's
[1:54] excellent. I appreciate. Stop doing that. So if there's. No
[1:57] discussion. All those in favor? Opposed of any it's carried.
[2:03] At this point, are there any disclosure interest from members
[2:07] of council. Okay seeing none. We are going to go
[2:14] on to community announcements. Are there any announcements? From the
[2:19] other members of the committee. No. I just have one
[2:25] at this point. And. It's just to, at this time,
[2:31] to thank the Highland games. Committee. Volunteers, organizers, everyone involved.
[2:41] Obviously, that came out. For their many years in Coberg.
[2:47] They've been a fixture in the community since 1963, and
[2:52] I just want to acknowledge them. And wish them the
[2:54] best luck in their move to port Hoke to a
[2:56] larger area and success for many years. And that this
[3:01] time. That. Staff sent along a note of thanks as
[3:07] well. From the department and all of us at the
[3:10] town of Cowork. Okay. Are there any other things? Okay,
[3:15] we'll move on. To. There's no delegations, so at this
[3:19] time we have an outside. Presentation. From the dbia. Can
[3:28] I have a mover on that? And then Mr. Larmer
[3:31] will read that. Your worship. Councilor Bureau. Mr. Larmer. I
[3:38] guess you're going to be reading that out. I understand.
[3:44] Yeah. Through your worship. So the dbi. Sorry? Through you,
[3:47] Mr. Chair. The DBI. Has actually added. Just a correspondence
[3:51] piece to this. So just to speak to there. They
[3:53] couldn't be here. Today. Just. It didn't work with conflict,
[3:57] so they just asked that I read it out, just.
[3:58] For the standing committee that's okay to proceed. Okay, so
[4:02] this is from Heath Herring, and he's the downtown business
[4:06] improvement area board chair. And this is just in relation
[4:10] to the letter they sent on recommendations on parking for
[4:13] downtown Colbert. So I'm running behalf of the downtown business
[4:16] approving area board of Management to express our appreciation for
[4:19] the town Cobra's ongoing efforts in implementing a new parking
[4:21] program while recognizing the strides made. Our members have raised
[4:24] many concerns regarding the persistent challenges of downtown parking, which
[4:27] we believe continue to act a significant. Barrier for both
[4:30] downtown merchants and patrons. During a regular meeting on January
[4:34] 11, 2024, the DBIA Board of Management passed a resolution
[4:38] to provide a recommendation to cover council driven by our
[4:41] mandate. To advocate for our members and promote the economic
[4:45] fatality of downtown Colbert. As you're aware the downtown corps
[4:48] plays a pivotal role as. A driver for community economic
[4:51] development, and addressing the challenges associated with parking is crucial
[4:54] to fostering a thriving business environment. Therefore. In an effort
[4:58] to alleviate these concerns and enhance the overall downtown experience,
[5:02] the DBA board of management wished to submit a written
[5:06] delegation to covert council's committee at the February 7, 09:30
[5:11] a.m. Standing committee we proposed the following recommendations. One, introduce
[5:16] a monthly or annual parking pass for downtown business. CIS
[5:18] and employees. This measure will provide a cost effective convenience
[5:22] solution for those who work and operate businesses in the
[5:25] downtown area. Two introduce a 30 minutes grace period for
[5:29] patrons running a quick errand or picking up. An order.
[5:34] The grace period aims to accommodate short visits to promoting
[5:36] a more flexible and customer friendly parking policy. Three implement
[5:40] free parking after 04:00 p.m. From Monday to Saturday. And
[5:43] free parking on Sundays. Free evening and weekend parking will
[5:47] encourage increased patriarch during these periods, contributing to a vibrant
[5:51] downtown atmosphere. We strongly recommend that council properly adopts these
[5:56] recommendations, effective immediately, to convey a positive message of support
[6:00] for the downtown corps by implementing these measures. We believe
[6:03] the downtown Colbert demonstrate its commitment to fostering a thriving
[6:06] business environment, enhancing the overall experience for both business and
[6:09] patrons alike. We appreciate your attention to this matter and
[6:12] ask that our recommendation. Be read aloud loud as a
[6:15] delegation February 7. Thank you for your continued dedication to
[6:18] economic fatality in the downtown culture. Sincerely, Keith Harring. Thank
[6:22] you, Mr. Larmer. Are there any questions? Discussion from members
[6:30] of the committee. Councilor. Darling, do you have anything? Okay.
[6:37] Just the comments. It's my understanding. That from Mr. Larmer
[6:43] that his department will be bringing back that overall. Parking.
[6:48] Information as council asked in the past. So I think
[6:51] this is going to be a part of it. And
[6:53] I agree that. With. The I think it's very critically
[6:59] important that. We make sure that we do things to
[7:03] encourage people to shop in the downtown and make sure
[7:05] that we have a vibrant downtown and business community. So
[7:10] if there's no other discussion at this time. I'll call
[7:14] the vote. All those in favor? You guys moved it
[7:18] initially, which is the receiver for information purposes, because it's
[7:22] going back. Okay. So, all those in favor? Opposed. If
[7:31] any, it's carried. So this time we're going to be
[7:35] moving on to the. Cassette agenda. Are there any items.
[7:40] That anyone would like to remove from the consent agenda
[7:45] or do we have any speakers to any of them,
[7:47] Mr. Lemmer, okay? 9.2. Any other items you'd like to
[7:56] remove? Just have further discussion. Okay. Sounds good. So at
[8:04] this time. Just before we vote on that, I just
[8:07] like to thank the staff for getting. Some of these
[8:11] items onto the agenda and work. Particularly. Ron Bolt park
[8:17] naming. I know the directors worked diligently to get that.
[8:22] Once a request came forward and I think that's very
[8:24] appropriate, so I just like to show them my appreciation
[8:29] of getting that. Onto the agenda. Do any of the
[8:32] directors want to speak to any of these items briefly?
[8:36] Director Taylor Scott. Thank you, chair. Just briefly, I'll touch
[8:44] on the economic Development Annual report that includes the venture
[8:48] 13 activity as well. So I'm pleased to bring forward.
[8:55] The second annual report from the. Economic Development Department. Mr.
[9:00] Van Campin sends his regress this morning, but I'm happy.
[9:03] Just to give a brief overview of this annual report.
[9:06] The report itself is included as attachment one to the
[9:10] staff report. There's no recommendation contained. In the report. It's
[9:14] very much a good news story, and we respectfully request
[9:17] that it be received. For information. I'll just make. A
[9:22] few brief highlights and some key takeaways. This annual report
[9:26] does build on the department. 's 2023. Economic development strategic
[9:33] plan that was specific to all of the development activities
[9:36] in that department, including venture 13. And the facility itself.
[9:41] The report does contain a link back to the 2023
[9:45] staff report and the strategic plan itself. For anyone that
[9:49] needs a refresher on what those five initiatives are. So
[9:52] just briefly, the five pillars include downtown development. Business retention
[9:58] and expansion. Investment readiness. Small business. Innovators and entrepreneurs. And
[10:07] workforce development and youth engagement. So everything contained in the
[10:11] annual report links back to those five strategic pillars and
[10:15] demonstrates all of the work within the department, within active
[10:19] and within venture. 13 how those offerings link back to
[10:23] these five pillars. So. Whether that's development at Lucas Point
[10:28] and facilitating investment readiness. Engaging the youth and workforce through
[10:33] the programming, through STEM camps, and whether it's through business.
[10:39] Retention and expansion. All the training offering the revenue growth
[10:43] series, bringing in speakers from local industries and sharing their
[10:47] good news stories with the development industry. So all of
[10:51] this and more is contained. In the annual report, you'll
[10:56] also see a number of key performance indicators that we
[10:59] are currently tracking, and we will be reporting. On growth
[11:05] and activity year over year based on those key performance
[11:08] indicators, like how many deaths are used at venture 13.
[11:13] There's currently 16 available and 15 currently occupied. So tracking
[11:18] those measurables and reporting on those year over year, tracking
[11:22] attendance and participation at events as well. And looking forward
[11:27] to 2024. We'll continue with this strong foundation that Mr.
[11:31] Van Campin and his team led last year and is
[11:34] scaling up all of those activities. For example, just this
[11:37] week. The 2024 March break stem camp. Registration opened, and
[11:46] instead of one week, which was held last year and
[11:48] which was a great success, we're looking to scale that
[11:51] up to three weeks in 2024. Just a small example.
[11:56] Of how we see the facility in the department growing.
[11:59] And the report wraps up by tying this all back
[12:02] to the town's broader strategic plan. So it really hits
[12:04] home on the thriving town pillar and also the service
[12:08] excellence. And I think. This report, in and of itself
[12:12] is an example of service, excellence and telling the story
[12:16] of all of our activity that happened in 2023. So
[12:20] happy to answer any questions. Thank you. Any questions from
[12:25] members of the committee? Just a comment. Okay, councilor bureau.
[12:29] Thank you. Because I think that's so informative. Come next
[12:33] budget time to understand the different statistics and to see
[12:36] that the future moving and economic development. I think that's
[12:40] great. So thank you for that. Yes. Thank you for
[12:45] putting together that quick synopsis. And appreciate the updates and
[12:54] the evolving reporting data back because obviously that's helpful for
[12:58] council. In future budgets and where we see where you're
[13:01] going. Does anyone want to speak to? The enforcement numbers
[13:09] at all. Mr. Larmer. Mr. Lemmer. Will highlight it. Yes.
[13:15] So thank you, Mr. Chair to members council. Just this
[13:17] is again similar to the director of plane development. Our
[13:20] manager, Miss Law enforcement, has created the second annual just
[13:24] admissible. Law enforcement licensing services report. It's pretty similar information
[13:30] from 2022. Just with the updated stats from 2023, you
[13:33] see an increase in activity and compliance and complaints. I
[13:37] think one of the ones I just really want to
[13:39] highlight because I think it speaks for itself. Is the
[13:43] administrative monetary penalty system stats. For 2023, which we started
[13:50] about March or April. So we had a little bit
[13:53] month delay last year. Just we were trying to onboard
[13:56] it, so. Now we're entering our first full year of
[13:59] that, so. This is just probably April, May, June, July.
[14:04] So, like, nine months of the year here, approximately. So
[14:09] just what we've diverted from the court systems and we
[14:11] push through our system. So out of the 1667 amps,
[14:16] tickets issued there is pre Poa part two. Tickets issued
[14:20] this just reflects the amps for that year. It tells
[14:24] you that there was 337 adjudications and screenings and hearings
[14:28] conduct itself. So those represent what would have been put
[14:31] through the court process through, adjust the piece. Through those
[14:34] provincial offenses processes which are a lot more complicated, I
[14:38] say, with administration proxies. And what our system is. I
[14:42] believe that individuals are wishing to adjudicate. Their tickets. It's
[14:47] happening within weeks and less than a month to actually
[14:50] get in front of a hearing officer. Sorry, screening officer,
[14:53] to review their tickets, and then not too long after
[14:56] that. A similar time frame if they were to peel
[15:00] it to the hearing officer itself. So just. Good numbers
[15:04] as part of that. And we'll just update in the
[15:09] previous, we'll just update the department updates. We'll kind of
[15:11] give the stats on some of the misspalies are actually
[15:13] looking towards. Us and our managers actually working with them
[15:15] to create a similar approach. What we've do doing here
[15:18] as well, too. And just lastly, I think it's just
[15:20] important to note that the great thing about this report,
[15:23] and I thank the manager for putting it forward for
[15:25] the public. But also counsel. It also describes these serverless
[15:29] agreements and kind of gives the public and council indication
[15:32] of how long. Each incident. Is taking and what we
[15:38] look to. Standards for customer service and individuals couldn't get
[15:42] ideas. Based on offense and the complications of eastern investigations.
[15:46] But I think our officers, this council has done. A
[15:48] good job to help us, assist us with putting more
[15:52] people power in the departments to help. To have that
[15:55] better customer service related. And you'll see those numbers and
[15:58] the timelines compress and decrease thanks to the leadership of
[16:02] our manager. Excellent. Thank you. Are there any questions or
[16:07] comments from members of council? Councilor darling. Thank you, Mr.
[16:13] Gormer. In reading this, and you're saying your adjudications and
[16:18] screening hearings that would have went to poa. Part of
[16:22] our. Services. To the communities to try and find efficiencies.
[16:28] So I would assume that by these not making it
[16:30] to the POa. This is saving a huge amount of
[16:33] staff time down the road. Could you comment on that?
[16:38] Mr. Lehrman. Yes. Definitely saving a lot of staff time.
[16:44] When the tig was issued for part two. Let's say
[16:46] those are majority of our tickets, which were previous parking
[16:50] offenses under the Provincial Offenses act. When somebody wanted to
[16:53] appeal that ticket. They were going probably between 18 to
[16:59] 20 months to actually get their ticket appealed, and they
[17:02] were. Constantly contact her office to see how that's working.
[17:04] How do I get resolved all those things now. We're
[17:07] doing it within weeks. Also in the POA process, there's
[17:11] a lot of work. That we have to work within
[17:14] the legislation on timelines, processes, all those things. They're greatly
[17:19] reduced now. It's the ticket. We have a screening officer
[17:22] with staff member. Takes ten to 20 minutes. Maybe at
[17:25] most. And then, depending on how it works out, the
[17:29] person usually leads satisfied. And if not, they have another
[17:33] step where they can appeal the process. So I would
[17:35] say this is saving huge amount of times. In our
[17:38] offices just outside of the provincial offense system itself, and
[17:42] customer service has been hugely increased. I think council may
[17:46] be getting less complaints in regard doing that, and I
[17:48] know our office is seeing less complaints related to. That
[17:52] process as well, and the courts have thanked us many
[17:56] times. You're taking this out of them because we were
[18:00] presenting a large amount of adjudications. Or court hearings to
[18:04] them, and it's greatly reduced their caseload. And now in
[18:07] Northland county they can focus on. The more complicated offenses,
[18:12] the more provincial offenses, like speeding of those things. And
[18:15] we're not. Jamming up the court systems for some things
[18:17] like this. Thank you very much. Virtual armor. Excellent. Any
[18:24] other comments or questions from the members. Okay, perfect. Yeah.
[18:28] And I'd just like to say. Yeah. Thank you, Mr.
[18:30] Larmer, and your department. I think this is a very
[18:34] positive, good news story. That. Shows something. That. We're making
[18:41] things a little bit more effective. In the town of
[18:45] Colbert. And I believe this gets our money to us
[18:49] a lot faster in this way as well, which is
[18:51] a positive thing, and. We're not losing money for time
[18:56] and staffing time. Your worship. Try that one. There we
[19:00] go. Through you chair. Thank you. To Mr. Larmer. Have
[19:05] we written to any other municipalities within north Orblin county
[19:08] and offering our amp services at this time. Is that
[19:11] a possibility? I know there's been talks about in the
[19:12] past. And are we. In a place now where we
[19:14] could actually. Provide. Court services for other municipalities. Mr.
[19:24] Larmer. We have in the discussions with the Thomas county
[19:28] municipalities in regards to the AmPS process. I won't speak
[19:34] for the manager of law enforcement, but we are in
[19:37] a unique position. Where our manager actually was one of
[19:41] the first municipalities on terror through Oshawa to bring ants
[19:43] to systems. So he's an expert and bring it forward.
[19:46] A lot of the other misspalities are coming to us
[19:47] and saying, want to get started? We want to do
[19:49] this. I don't think you know how much work it
[19:52] involves and how much dedication. At the start upload, so
[19:56] we're trying to navigate them. We have been. Probably almost
[19:59] all of them have asked us about it. We've always
[20:01] opened our door that we're ready to talk. We're happy
[20:03] to enter a degree with you. We have endorsements from
[20:05] this council to do that. They're trying out on their
[20:07] own. They have the ability to do that, but I
[20:10] would say. With council's extra assistance with the staffing, with
[20:15] the clerk, that we are more up. To be able
[20:17] to take on these agreements and to a system where
[20:19] we can to try to drive. Some of their offenses.
[20:25] The end goals of getting compliance faster for them as
[20:28] well, too, and helping the courts again. Deflate how much
[20:31] activity they're seeing as well. Perfect. Thank you through the
[20:37] chair to Mayor Cleveland as well. At the CAO meetings,
[20:41] we meet regularly. We continue to discuss. Shared services or
[20:49] the ability for those municipalities who have particular service areas
[20:53] that others do not, that there's an opportunity potentially for
[20:56] purchase service. Or agreements in place. So we always highlight
[21:01] where those opportunities exist for those municipalities. It would be
[21:05] a lot more cost. Effective. With some particular services, potentially
[21:08] to get into agreements with other municipalities rather than onboarding
[21:13] specific staff. So we continue to highlight those opportunities as
[21:16] well. So just wanted council to be aware of that.
[21:19] Excellent. Any follow up? Okay, perfect. At this time. We
[21:25] will receive. Or take action on the consent agenda items.
[21:34] I think I need to move her in a second.
[21:36] Councilor bureau. Did I get one? No, I didn't. So,
[21:43] Councilor Borough. And your worship, or are you good to
[21:47] say that? Okay. All those in favor? It's carried. Now
[21:54] we're on to the extracted items. Which we've got the
[22:01] one item extracted at this time. I'm looking for a
[22:05] mover. Oh, sorry. Yeah, no, I'd like to actually talk
[22:08] about it, if that's okay. With you chair. I think
[22:10] we got to put it on the floor for sorry.
[22:15] Through your chair to my council members and to the
[22:17] director. I think this may have hit the end of
[22:23] the road at this point, and based off some of
[22:25] the information that's come forward regarding the firefighters museum, I
[22:29] think that there may be a better alternative coming down
[22:31] the pipeline in terms of places to go and arrangements
[22:35] to be had. And I'm just looking at all the
[22:37] issues at hand. In terms of the current allocation of
[22:41] that space. And my suggestion at this point is maybe
[22:45] that. We set up a meeting instead of continuing down
[22:48] this pathway, that we instead set up a meeting. With
[22:50] the Firefighters museum to share some information about a potential
[22:54] other site and or new allocations. This is 9.2 says
[22:59] that we just sort of receive and move forward with
[23:01] the current. Arrangement. My concern is that we're sending a
[23:04] group of individuals down a path that isn't. Going to
[23:06] lead to necessarily a good place. And at this time,
[23:09] maybe we should stop. That have an honest conversation with
[23:11] them about alternative options so that we can relook at
[23:15] the possible uses for the memorial Arena. It's just a
[23:19] conversation, a topic. And I'd love to hear from director
[23:21] Gertz. At this time and or the council. The reason
[23:24] I extracted it is to have this. Conversation on this
[23:26] floor so that we can start talking about it. As.
[23:30] There have been new. Potential developments recently, which may provide
[23:35] a better opportunity for a local fire hall museum. Okay,
[23:40] before we go to director goots, I'm just going to
[23:42] move the motion that's on the agenda for the time
[23:45] being, and then if the mayor has an amendment later.
[23:48] He can put that after we have discussion. So I'm
[23:51] going to move it. Do I? Have a seconder, your
[23:54] worship. So it's on the floor. Director dirt. If you
[23:59] could speak to it before we get into more discussion.
[24:03] Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate the opportunity. To explain
[24:08] the I won't repeat much of the information that's in
[24:10] the report. But. I did just want to kind of
[24:14] shape or highlight the point in time that we're at
[24:16] right now. So, as you know from working with me
[24:19] over the past couple of years, I'm a planner, like
[24:21] to look quite a ways ahead and. We've had very
[24:25] successful small peak planner. Not to your level.
[24:37] But we've had very effective discussions with the firefighters museum.
[24:43] It's been very interesting working with the group. Each member
[24:45] of the board brings a unique skill set to the
[24:47] table and they work effectively as a team to solve
[24:50] issues. We've come a long way. So I don't want
[24:55] my staff report kind of at the midpoint of our
[24:57] time. To insinuate. That. Anything is. Soured or is not
[25:03] working effectively, but. What I am signaling with my report
[25:07] is as far as the leeway or discretion that I
[25:10] have. As staff negotiator, I have run out of wiggle
[25:15] room and. I'm open to additional direction if council sees
[25:20] fit. So what I've been working with. To date, council
[25:24] hasn't given me a specific range of details to negotiate
[25:29] within, but. Since the curling club and the memorial arena
[25:32] are on the same site and both are similar buildings,
[25:35] sharing a facility I've been working with. The same constraints
[25:38] as the Jack Heenan. Arena lease since. That council has
[25:44] approved in the past that package of information. So that's
[25:48] the introduction and the context for my staff report. I
[25:52] look forward to. So if council passes the motion as
[25:56] presented, I look forward to further discussions. And negotiations with
[26:01] the firefighters museum. We may come. To. An agreement or
[26:07] a lease, and I'll come back to counsel. With that
[26:09] signed document for endorsement. If it's within the constraints that
[26:13] I currently have, I'd be happy to do so, but.
[26:16] I didn't want to let a whole year pass without
[26:19] an opportunity. For capsule. To make any suggestions or alterations.
[26:26] We are at the point where a lot of the
[26:29] practical things have been figured out, at least. At a
[26:32] basic level. Firefighters museum has been very diligent. Freebiting the
[26:36] building, bringing in specialists, getting advice. Asking lots of questions,
[26:41] really figuring out what the opportunities of that building are.
[26:46] An arena built from in 1950, has a lot more
[26:49] in common with a barn than any other building. It's
[26:53] an unheated roof and walls, and even the whole floor
[26:58] isn't. Even finished. Half of the floor is dirt. So
[27:01] when you try to convert that into any modern use.
[27:07] It's difficult and expensive. That being said, the zoning of
[27:11] the site. Is institutional, which precludes quite a few different
[27:16] commercial or other uses. So when we went through the
[27:18] RFP process looking for proposals from the community. We didn't
[27:22] get a long list of great uses for that building.
[27:27] So if it turns out. If the Firefighters museum is
[27:31] successful and they figure out a business plan that will
[27:34] work for them. In that facility. I'd be happy to
[27:37] recommend to council that we lease that to them. At
[27:39] the right time. But also. If they determine. You know
[27:43] what? This isn't the best facility for us. I'm also
[27:46] glad to support that because we certainly don't want to
[27:50] force fit anything and paint them into a corner that's
[27:53] not appropriate for them. I wouldn't want to do that
[27:55] for any charitable organization. So happy to support them along
[27:58] the way. But we are at a point where it's
[28:00] important to talk about money. So there's a bit of
[28:03] context. In the report, Jack Heenan. Lease includes about $20,000
[28:11] a year in revenue and based on the 2024 budget,
[28:16] The town pays about $50,000 a year for a maintenance
[28:21] of the facility. So if Memorial arena lease included another
[28:25] $20,000 in revenue, for example, then the town would continue
[28:29] to pay about $30,000 in costs for that site. So
[28:34] if you are interested, I have a table I could
[28:36] put up on the screen that has a few different
[28:38] scenarios. If you're interested in seeing that. For context. For
[28:43] those who are used to looking at commercial leases. Now,
[28:46] this is far from a commercially appropriate site. But just
[28:49] so you get a business. Sense. The buildings are both
[28:52] about have 25,000 usable space. Usable. As old arena buildings.
[28:59] So, as base rent, that's 28.8 cents per square foot.
[29:05] So that's what the current agreements have, so it's not
[29:08] a lot of money. But it is more than zero.
[29:12] So be happy to put that chart up on the
[29:14] screen or antsy. Any further questions at this time. Yes,
[29:19] we can get the chart up on the screen. I
[29:20] think that'd be helpful. For the members. I did. Yeah,
[29:26] I'm still on. Just sharing now. While he's doing that,
[29:34] are there any questions from the committee at this time?
[29:37] Or councilor? Bureau and then, your worship. I know that
[29:42] we did this last time and we started negotiating and
[29:45] stuff. How much time and. Effort and money has the
[29:48] Canadian Firefighter museum put into this so far. Through the
[29:54] chair. I haven't asked for that number, but the Firefed
[29:57] museum does have access to the building. For investigative purposes,
[30:04] and they've run one very successful fundraiser, so I would
[30:08] suspect it is. Hundreds of hours. Get a nod from
[30:12] will? Absolutely. So hundreds of hours would be the broad
[30:17] estimate. And before we go to this, your worship. Yeah,
[30:23] I think it's a good question, because. I think one
[30:24] of the things is the amount of work and effort
[30:27] that has been put forward. By the firefighters museum. Has
[30:33] not gone unnoticed. It's one of the reasons why I
[30:35] sort of, in my role, as mayor, as I've been
[30:37] sort of working through this and speaking with some provincial
[30:40] counterparts, And sort of looking at our fire master plan
[30:44] and looking at opportunities in the very near future. Because
[30:48] of the exemplary work, effort and forethought of this group,
[30:51] I've actually been working to find a solution that would
[30:54] be better for them than. The current building. Seeing that
[30:58] there are a lot of problems, seeing that we're looking
[31:00] at close to potentially a million dollars in retrofits to
[31:03] make this building appropriate. I just think. That there's better
[31:06] ways to spend a million dollars than in retrofitting an
[31:08] old building. And so one of the things that I'd
[31:11] like to talk about is maybe amending this motion to
[31:14] basically have a conversation with both staff and the firefighters
[31:19] museum. About some alternative options that may be coming apparent
[31:25] in the very near future. In covert. And so in
[31:29] no way, shape or form am I looking to shut
[31:31] this down in. No way, shape or form am I
[31:33] looking to get in the way of the incredible work
[31:36] these volunteers have been doing. It's actually as a way
[31:38] of maybe finding a better location and a better solution
[31:41] for them. So that's one of the reasons I wanted
[31:43] to have this. Conversation today is to take into account
[31:45] that we're looking at potentially a million dollars. In work
[31:48] that could be done. We're looking at it. Not necessarily
[31:51] the best use of this space. And I guess the
[31:54] question I'd have is to the director of planning what?
[31:56] Kind of effort would it take to rezone this area
[32:00] specifically to a residential zone, knowing that we currently have
[32:03] a residential and housing crisis. Director Taylor Scott. Sure
[32:13] happy to. Through the chair. So the property is a
[32:18] major institutional site currently reflective of the current use. It
[32:22] also has an institutional zoning on the property. It's not
[32:26] zoned for broad residential uses at this time. When we
[32:31] look at redevelopment or intensification. That is when, as planning
[32:37] staff, we look to all the policy documents that guide
[32:41] our recommendations and our work. That would include the provincial
[32:44] policy statement, the county official plan, the town's official. Plan,
[32:48] the growth plan and the zoning bylaw. So we work
[32:51] through all those documents to inform. What the best use
[32:54] based on the community structure should be. The policies in
[32:59] and around redevelopment of a major institutional use. Largely. Land
[33:09] in the realm of residential. There's a series of criteria
[33:13] in our official plan. That speak to when an institutional
[33:18] use ceases to operate. There's a set number of criteria
[33:23] that we look at. And it's set the path forward
[33:26] because we know institutional uses like schools cease over time.
[33:32] They consolidate. They move on. We've seen other instances, for
[33:36] example, on Durham street. So the official plan is forward
[33:39] thinking and that it sets out criteria for the next
[33:43] wave of land use. That comes along. So we look
[33:46] to those criteria. It's predominantly residential. It could be another
[33:50] institutional like use. And. There's criteria about servicing, about traffic.
[33:57] So all these factors then come into play. Once that
[34:01] institutional use ceases. It also would set the path forward
[34:07] for a rezoning. Because the lands are zoned institutional at
[34:13] present. Any major redevelopment into the realm of residential would
[34:18] require rezoning. But that rezoning would be weighed against all
[34:23] of those criteria in our official plan on the redevelopment
[34:27] of the property. So. It's complex, but at the same
[34:34] time it's fairly straightforward because of the forward thinking policies
[34:37] in our official plan. Thank you. Thank you, Director Taylor
[34:41] Scott, for that. Are there any questions? Or comments from
[34:49] members of the committee. Councilor, bureau. Yeah, I apologize. I
[34:55] missed Wednesday, last Wednesday's meeting, so I didn't hear the
[34:57] update from the firefighters museum. My apologies for that, but
[35:03] to me. If they're happy. With continuing negotiations. With community
[35:12] services. I don't see how now would be a good
[35:15] time to take all the work that's been done with
[35:18] staff time and their time. And the work that has
[35:21] been done to stop there and go to another location.
[35:26] If they're happy with the location that they're in now.
[35:30] And the negotiations still are in. If one of the
[35:33] parties said, you know what, it's not going to work,
[35:35] then. I can see that, but. I think, to be
[35:38] honest. After putting. How many years has this been going
[35:41] on too? Like two, maybe three. I think to stop
[35:46] that work now and to move it to another location.
[35:51] Is it wrong? Thank you for the comments, councilor bureau.
[35:55] Your worship. Yeah, just double checking with council bureau. Did
[35:58] you see the letter that was dated February 2 from
[36:01] the museum? I did not. Okay, so just. So we're
[36:04] clear in that letter? We're being made very clear that
[36:06] in order for this to proceed covert council has to
[36:09] be prepared for a million dollars in rent forgiveness. I
[36:13] just want to be very clear that what the expectation
[36:16] is moving forward is that they're very happy with the
[36:19] building. On the assumption that we are going to forgive
[36:22] a million dollars plus in rent. So I just. Want
[36:24] to be clear. That's the problem. I'm pointing out here.
[36:28] So there is a problem, and the problem is very
[36:30] clearly that. As of we are now knowledgeable through the
[36:34] report and. That this is not going to be a
[36:38] zero expense to covert. We're looking at approximately a million
[36:41] dollar expense. And so that's the problem I'm seeing, is
[36:45] that this isn't. A project that doesn't have massive cost
[36:48] to it. And again, I'm not saying that. We don't
[36:52] necessarily spend the money. What I'm saying is that there
[36:54] are other alternatives that have very recently become available, which
[36:58] I think are more suited, that would be more appropriate.
[37:02] And that could have more funding opportunities for a better,
[37:06] successful agreement. Again, not looking to stop this. Simply taking
[37:10] all of the great work that's been done. And putting
[37:12] it in a different lane or an opportunity of a
[37:15] different lane moving forward so it's not stopping. What it
[37:17] is is looking at alternative arrangements. Based on very recent
[37:21] information, we've received that this is not the ideal building
[37:25] without a million dollars plus in leasehold. Improvements. So that's
[37:28] where it's coming from. It's not a stopping we do
[37:30] know there's problems. They've been very clear with their problems
[37:33] from that letter. And that letter is stating, hey. Just
[37:36] so council is aware, in order for this to move
[37:38] forward, we're looking at potentially a million dollars. So that's
[37:41] where my concern is, saying that, hey, we can't. Be
[37:44] even. Let's not follow this down if we already know
[37:48] where it's going and it's a million dollars in forgiveness.
[37:51] Councilor bureau. I agree with you. A million dollars. When
[37:54] you say that is a big price. Tag, but if
[37:57] you look at all the other museums we support, Like,
[38:02] for instance, the firehouse. We take care of that building,
[38:04] the Murray Dressler house, the sift and Cook Museum. We
[38:08] do lots of different things. And to retrofit an arena.
[38:12] At the time, we knew that it was going to
[38:13] be such a big project to overhaul, but we also
[38:16] agreed that. It would be an ideal spot and location.
[38:22] For that use of the arena. So to me, I
[38:24] would still like to see that. The talks be gone
[38:29] through our director in the museum and see what they
[38:32] both come up with. To move forward in the recommendations
[38:35] from there instead of us. Which I'm sure that director
[38:39] Gertz, who come up with different locations or different. Ideas.
[38:42] And that would happen in all those meetings. But I
[38:46] just think we should continue. In the way it's going
[38:49] now. There's always going to be costs. Always going to
[38:52] be costs when you're supporting something as a museum. It's
[38:56] me. The cultural master plan, which. Was to me what
[39:02] a very well done plan. I think we need to
[39:04] start following that and. Get back to our roots on
[39:06] that culture, bringing back the tourism, bringing back all of
[39:10] that, and I think that area on Furnace Street. Having
[39:14] that memorial arena done as a firefighters museum is not
[39:18] only keeping. The heritage part alive, but it's also keeping.
[39:24] The building. To me. I know it's going to cost
[39:28] money. We knew that before. And I think just continue
[39:32] with ongoing negotiations. Thank you, councilor bureaus. So just a
[39:38] clarity to the clerk, this item here goes to. The
[39:41] regular council meeting, and then there will be a fulsome
[39:45] discussion at that regular meeting. Yes. Anything that's recommended here,
[39:51] this motion or an amendment motion would be referred to
[39:53] the council for final ratification discussion. It pulled from consent
[39:56] agenda. Okay, perfect. I'm going to go to councilor darling,
[40:01] and then your worship. Thank you, chair. Just from the
[40:09] reports, it looks like. There's the lease on the solar
[40:12] panels on the roof is till 2035. Just thinking. If
[40:17] we don't progress or proceed. With at this time. With
[40:22] the firefighters museum that we're looking at approximately a cost
[40:26] of $51,000. Per year times ten or eleven years. Just
[40:31] to maintain the building. I don't know whether there's exit
[40:35] clause in the solar panel agreement that would work, but
[40:40] I just want to make sure that those numbers were
[40:42] correct. Thank you. Yes. So it's my understanding from director
[40:47] Gert there is a potential clause to get out of
[40:50] the panels, but. We haven't necessarily explored. That is my
[40:56] understanding. Would you like to speak to that? Thank you,
[41:00] chair. Yes, the solar panel at least does have an
[41:03] exit clause, but the mechanism is that we would pay
[41:05] out the profits that the company would have received anyway.
[41:09] So it would involve estimating the future electricity revenue and
[41:13] compensating for their losses. So we haven't requested a specific
[41:18] quote or explore that idea to the penny, but we
[41:21] did consult with. Some solar industry experts, and they recommended
[41:28] it would probably be cheaper just to ride out the
[41:30] lease. With the building vacant and do nothing, then pay
[41:33] it out. And just while the conversation was going on,
[41:37] I did highlight. The year eleven on this chart and
[41:41] I'd be happy chair to walk through a few of
[41:43] these scenarios with your grace, and that may support some
[41:48] of the ongoing conversation. But year eleven is supported there,
[41:52] or as highlighted in this cell. So. If the town.
[41:57] Continued to operate the building. With its current expenses based
[42:01] on 2024 revenue, with the deduction of $20,000. Of additional
[42:07] rent, it would cost us $420,000 over the next eleven
[42:11] years. So, Mr. Chair, would you prefer me to
[42:21] go through a few of these and explain these scenarios?
[42:24] Yes, if you don't mind. And then we will go
[42:27] to the mayor for his question. Thank you. Thank you.
[42:31] So I'll work through the chart briefly, just working from
[42:34] the left. Hand side. To the right hand side. Not
[42:38] a financial planner. So this isn't necessarily a normal financial
[42:42] layout of how these concepts are done, but I think
[42:44] this is a simple way to compare. Some of the
[42:49] a few alternatives to us. So I'll highlight the columns
[42:53] that I'm speaking about as I go. So in column
[42:57] e, which is highlighted, that summarizes the revenue we would
[43:01] collect if we did a flat rate of $18,200 rent
[43:07] for 20 years. So that would be, we would collect
[43:09] a total of $364,000. And based on the comparable rent
[43:15] that we receive of the jack. Jackhenan arena that. Was.
[43:19] The floor of my negotiating threshold. I felt like I
[43:22] couldn't go any lower than that. Without any direction from
[43:26] council. But bear in mind, inflation and other costs continued
[43:32] to go up. So if we thought about if we
[43:36] assume that inflation is 2% on average over 20 years,
[43:39] or 3% on average over 20 years. If we increase
[43:43] that base amount of rent of 18,200 by those. Different
[43:49] percentage rates. We would either collect 442 or 489,000 in
[43:55] a two or 3% scenario. Director Gersh. Sorry. Your worship.
[44:01] Are you in the meeting? Okay. Sorry. Just wanted to
[44:04] make sure. Just because we want. To know that for
[44:05] the minutes if you're going to leave the meeting. Sorry,
[44:09] director Gers. Continue. Thank you for that clarification. So, on
[44:13] the bottom here. I've just compared so that you don't
[44:17] have to do the math mentally each one of these
[44:19] lines below compares this scenario against the starting point. So
[44:24] a 2% annual increase we would collect $78,000 more, a
[44:28] 3% annual increase. We would collect $125,000. More. So that's
[44:33] kind of three different versions of the existing Jack Heenan
[44:37] lease, I guess. In scenario four and five. Just as
[44:43] a comparison here, if we charged a dollar per square
[44:47] foot for the buildings, plus. TMI. Which is a normal
[44:51] way that you think about commercial leases. Of course we
[44:53] don't. Pay ourselves taxes. So maintenance and insurance and a
[44:57] 2% annual increase. Over 20 years, that would be a
[45:01] collection of $874,000, which is 510 more than scenario one.
[45:08] If we do that same scenario, but estimate that the
[45:12] average. Inflationary increase is 3%. The difference would be collecting
[45:17] 967,000, which is a difference of 603,000. I structured some
[45:23] of these scenarios kind of to give a bit of
[45:26] commercial context, even though it's very much not a commercial
[45:29] site. But there's not a lot of museums looking to
[45:33] move into arena examples. None of these happening in the
[45:37] marketplace. There are no comparables. Right. It's that unique. So.
[45:45] This is all. Given to you in context of some
[45:49] commercial context, but also. It's compatible with the letter that's
[45:53] received on the agenda as well from the firefighters museum
[45:57] about. Their ballpark. Million dollar renovation. So even in these
[46:03] five different scenarios, the town does have a way to
[46:07] collect a million dollars of rent with a fairly reasonable
[46:11] ask of $36,000. I think is a fairly reasonable number.
[46:17] It does get close to that million dollar rent, but
[46:20] if we were considering forgiving that rent anyway. It would
[46:24] be a wash. So if the town is considering being
[46:32] that generous, So if that ask of a million dollars
[46:36] of rent forgiveness is considered, none of these scenarios really.
[46:42] Matter, because we wouldn't collect any of this rent anyway.
[46:48] That being said, We move one more column to the
[46:54] right. The bills still come due. The building is still
[46:58] there. It'll need painting of hydro bills. Need to be
[47:01] paid. There's lights on the parking lot that the town
[47:04] needs to maintain. We need to plow and salt and
[47:07] repave at some point. If the museum moves in, the
[47:12] roof will need to be well maintained. We can't leak.
[47:16] On invaluable artifacts if the building were to remain vacant
[47:20] and there was a small roof leak that developed. Staff
[47:23] could look at it if it's just leaking on the
[47:25] dirt. Floor and the water soaks into the floor, it
[47:28] might not even need to be fixed right. There's different
[47:31] ways to ride it out. And if this interior use
[47:35] was a not very sensitive. Use, the maintenance cost could
[47:38] be lower, but if the interior of the building is
[47:41] used for a sensitive use. Our obligation is the landlord
[47:44] is higher, not astronomically higher, but the due diligence. Reasonableness
[47:50] standard is higher. So, based on the 2024 budget, now.
[47:57] This is pretty fairly broad forecast, but if we includ.
[48:02] Included $18,000 of additional revenue. That leaves $32,000 of an
[48:08] expense based on our budget this year. If we just
[48:10] assume that carries forward for 20 years. We're still incurring
[48:14] expense of $882,000. On top of a zero rent. That's
[48:21] the expenses. With the revenue. If the roof needs to
[48:27] be redone. Once 25,000 square foot building. I have not
[48:32] quoted what that is, but even on that you've seen
[48:34] the budget on even very small municipal buildings, like the
[48:38] concert band building, right? That's a million dollars in capital
[48:41] for that building over the next 20 years, I think.
[48:43] Is a small number. So we're looking at $2 million
[48:47] in expenses. Very broad estimates. These are not based on
[48:51] quotes or detailed engineering plans, but at least it gives
[48:54] you a sense of the scale of what we're looking
[48:57] at, and I think it's. Appropriate to have this. This
[48:59] is why I wanted to have this check in point
[49:01] midway through. Negotiations to. See how comfortable council is with
[49:05] the scale of this plan. Thank you. Chair. Thank you,
[49:10] Director Gertz. Your worship. Yeah. Motion to amend. I'm. Going
[49:14] to leave the motion as it sends. The only thing
[49:16] I'm going to put at the end is further, that
[49:18] council directs staff. To explore options regarding the solar panels
[49:24] on the roof at this time. I'm not moving. Forward.
[49:27] Let's not necessarily decide what we're going to do, but
[49:29] I would like to know options. Regarding either. Moving them
[49:34] because obviously we don't necessarily want to get out of
[49:36] the contract. We don't. Want to be paying that kind
[49:37] of lump sum, but is there an opportunity to move?
[49:39] To a new town building and maintain that contract. What
[49:42] are the opportunities? Here is basically all I'm asking for
[49:45] at this time to understand. If we were to sort
[49:48] of think in advance, if this council were to decide
[49:50] to go through an op adjustment and redesign that area
[49:54] for residential what are our options to just have a
[49:57] fulsome discussion, hopefully regarding this. That's the motion. So just
[50:00] simply to look for options. To get out of the
[50:02] contract for our solars. Okay. This is just in regards
[50:08] to the solar panel. This is the only thing. Yeah,
[50:11] we'll just add that at this point, do we have
[50:13] a seconder? Councilor bureau? Any discussion. On the item,
[50:23] councilor. Maybe also, if possible, if we can get an
[50:28] estimate for the roof cost. In that as well. This
[50:31] way we have a fulsome understanding of what the exact
[50:34] potential maintenance cost under everything, and that way we're more
[50:37] informed, happy to amend. We'll just let Mr. Lamber put
[50:43] that up there. We're going to make a big decision.
[50:48] Let's make sure we have all of the facts part
[50:50] of it. I think it's a great situation. Thank you,
[50:52] chair. Chairman. Darling, do you have any questions in regards
[51:01] to anything going on? Okay. Your worship. And I just
[51:03] like to say thank you again to both director Gertz.
[51:06] He is building quite a reputation in the community as
[51:09] being a deal maker and as being a planner small
[51:12] p and I think that that's really appropriate to mention
[51:15] and to talk about because I think a lot of
[51:17] these projects are moving along at a great rate because
[51:20] of the willingness of director Gertz to sort of be
[51:22] open minded and to not come with a bunch of
[51:26] sort of. Assumptions. So a special note to him and
[51:29] also, again, a special thanks. I haven't been out there
[51:32] working to find new locations for this museum because. The
[51:36] team behind. The museum is doing an incredible job and
[51:40] seeing the amount of work they're putting into. This and
[51:42] seeing the momentum is why I've sort of gotten behind
[51:45] it myself, and I just want to say thank you
[51:46] to all the vault.
[51:56] Is it? Councilor bureau? It's okay. He's got two hats.
[52:04] Apparently today. So the motion. Is there any further discussion
[52:12] questions? Director Gertz. You just have some comments. Thank you.
[52:19] I did highlight the roof as an example, but is
[52:22] not the only expense of feast. Of infrastructure on the
[52:24] site. So based on the lease definition that we've been
[52:27] negotiating with, the firefighters museum. The town would maintain the
[52:32] building envelope. So roof walls, foundations and the common areas.
[52:36] Which are the parking areas and land. Landscaping, so I'd
[52:41] be glad to include. Any other infrastructure costs if council
[52:44] is interested in that information. So noted and so moved.
[52:48] I think that'd be appropriate. If. The building envelope. As
[52:56] I would say, as. Per our other agreement.
[53:06] Once Mr. Farmers got that all up there.
[53:21] Is that good with the two? We just put the
[53:26] infrastructure repairs. Cao. Vaughn. Sorry. Just a note as well
[53:31] that these will be. Estimates. So broader estimates. Right. They
[53:34] won't be detailed design work. Excellent. So the emotion to
[53:42] amend is up on the board. If there's any questions,
[53:47] speak now. If not. Okay. All those in favor? Opposed.
[53:53] If any, it's carried. Now let's go back to. The
[53:58] main motion, as amended. Do we need to see the
[54:01] whole thing in its entirety, or are you guys. Good
[54:05] with. Okay, sounds good. Any questions? Further discussion. Councilor. Darling,
[54:13] are you good? Okay. At this time. I'll call the
[54:18] vote on the motion as amended. All those in favor?
[54:23] Opposed. If any, it's carried. All right. Your worship. Thank
[54:33] you. Just. I'd like to note to the municipal clerk
[54:36] that I would. Like that pulled from the consent agenda
[54:39] at the regular meeting already? I don't know if I
[54:41] have to provide notice or if I can do that
[54:42] in these meetings. Okay, perfect. Okay, at this time, we're
[54:50] going to move to the notice of motion, and we
[54:53] have a notice of motion from Mayor Cleveland. If you'd
[55:03] like to move that onto the floor. And if we
[55:05] can get a seconder. So the mayor's moved his notice
[55:09] motion on the floor. Do we have a second? Councilor
[55:16] bureau. So, discussion on the item. Your worship, I'd like
[55:23] to first start off by recognizing that this motion. Doesn't
[55:27] come by myself. While it says the notice of motion
[55:30] from Mayor Lucas Cleveland, the reality is, I may have
[55:32] stolen a little bit of thunder from my fellow counselors,
[55:35] and I. Want to acknowledge that this is an item
[55:38] that I've been at lengths in discussion with. Both councilor
[55:41] Darlingwith both councilor bureau, with even yourself, councilor Bercat and
[55:45] so while this motion may be coming forward, With me.
[55:48] I want to be very clear that I am not
[55:50] the one that has necessarily been pushing the envelope on
[55:53] the parking issue. My fellow counsel has been, and it's
[55:57] been my job as the mayor to simply listen and
[55:59] hear. It was a bit of a rush job in
[56:03] terms of getting this together with the report coming from
[56:05] the DbIA. And sort of the new working model. I
[56:10] knew that this had to get up in front of
[56:11] council. So these suggestions are sort of a combination of
[56:15] suggestions that I've heard from across the table from my
[56:17] other counselors. They're in no way, shape or form locked
[56:21] in stone. And it was a starting point. From which
[56:24] I hope today. Will continue that discussion, and then we
[56:28] can lead to a fulsome discussion as a whole. But
[56:30] I do want to acknowledge that these ideas are not
[56:33] mine. These are the ideas that I've been presented from
[56:35] people like councilor bureau and councilor darling who have actually
[56:38] spoken. At length with me about some of their concerns.
[56:41] And primarily all I'm looking to do here, and I
[56:44] think all council is looking to do is to listen
[56:46] to what the DBI is saying. And when we went
[56:48] through those points, today of what the DBI is looking
[56:51] for. These suggestions, not saying that they need to stay
[56:53] on would have basically addressed all of those concerns, and
[56:58] so I think we can do one better. Than what
[57:00] the DBI is asking, I think. We can look for
[57:03] our staff to come back with a more. Easy to
[57:07] use. And simplistic parking system. That doesn't necessitate a reduction.
[57:15] In revenue, but also takes into account the seasonality of
[57:20] our community. And that is that in the summertime, everyone
[57:23] needs parking, and the rest of the year, we've got
[57:26] lots of parking available. And I think. When you I
[57:30] know a lot of people tell me that municipalities aren't
[57:33] business, but I think when we're looking at parking. Parking
[57:36] is a business. In our municipality. And as such, there
[57:40] is a time when you want. To provide quality services,
[57:45] and then there's a time where you want to maximize
[57:47] potential revenue. And I think the suggestions in this motion.
[57:52] Are sort of alluding to some of that, but again,
[57:54] I'm open to suggestions, amendments. And or any other alterations.
[57:58] Thank you. Councilor. Thank you for bringing this forward, your
[58:03] worship. You're right. Parking has been an ongoing conversation. I
[58:09] think since the car was invented, I think, to be
[58:12] honest, I like a lot of these points. There's some
[58:14] that I don't, but I do think we need a
[58:17] fulsome conversation after. The strategic parking plan comes out from
[58:24] staff, and I think there is definitely good points in
[58:27] here. And I think the DBI has some good points
[58:30] in there as well. Some again, I don't agree with.
[58:34] But I think that once the report comes back to
[58:37] council, I think that would be the perfect opportunity for
[58:41] all of us as council to debate that motion. So
[58:46] as much as I love these, and I know there's
[58:48] the three or four points, In your motion that I
[58:51] would like to vote on now in the past, but
[58:54] I think we need to refer this to that plan.
[58:57] Be very clear, Councilor Burrow, none of these suggestions would
[59:00] be necessitated in the voting. What this motion is, is
[59:08] simply requesting a report from staff using some of these
[59:11] as a suggested guideline. So I think waiting until the
[59:15] report. Is again, being a reactive type of government. I
[59:18] think we need to start being proactive. I think our
[59:22] community expects us to be taking a leadership role. And
[59:25] I think that what I've asked for. Is not a
[59:30] solution. What? I've asked for suggestions from staff based on
[59:33] these recommendations, so. I think it's actually to sort of
[59:37] push back. It's actually the perfect time. Because we know
[59:39] that report is eminent. The staff already have access to
[59:42] that report and will so within the next few weeks.
[59:46] And so suggesting that they start putting together a report
[59:49] about that. Report and what our new parking regime. That's
[59:51] one of the reasons why I pushed it forward, to
[59:53] get it on the agenda now is because of the
[59:55] timing issue. This will allow the staff to have that
[59:58] appropriate time. When that report comes that they don't have
[1:00:00] to, then wait for a motion from counsel. To go
[1:00:03] forward on that. So that's the reason for it. Council
[1:00:07] bureau. I agree. We need to be proactive rather than
[1:00:12] reactive, which I think when we first came back with
[1:00:17] these new parking regulations. It was a lot to take
[1:00:20] in because there were so many different aspects. To the
[1:00:24] whole parking plan. But I still think that if. We
[1:00:31] start going line by line over these and adding new
[1:00:35] bylaws in it's going to confuse people more. And I
[1:00:38] think that's one of the biggest issues that happened with
[1:00:41] our parking last year. Is, everybody didn't have the right
[1:00:46] information to understand where the waterfront parking was, where the
[1:00:50] downtown parking was and. When it would start, when it
[1:00:55] didn't because. People are busy and they live their lives.
[1:00:59] So I do believe that I would rather like to
[1:01:02] instead of piece by piece, I would rather have to
[1:01:04] look at the whole parking thing where council then goes
[1:01:07] over it. I agree with you. There needs to be
[1:01:09] changes, 100%, but I do believe that. We need to
[1:01:14] have that report back first, and then we can actually
[1:01:17] sit back, take our time. And do it right. Your
[1:01:22] worship. Yeah, I'm a little bit lost to councilor because
[1:01:25] this is doing it. Right. This is exactly what doing
[1:01:28] it right looks like. It's asking the staff to give
[1:01:32] us a report. On how we could make it better.
[1:01:39] This isn't going line by line. The suggestions that I
[1:01:41] put forward are just examples of what to do. That
[1:01:45] could further that this new program shall consider, not implement.
[1:01:49] Shall consider. It was very specific in the wording because
[1:01:52] I want to be very clear that it also says
[1:01:54] suggestions from residents business and council members in the report.
[1:01:58] So in this motion, it actually would allow the staff
[1:02:01] to speak. To each council member and get their input,
[1:02:04] it would actually allow. The staff to take the emails
[1:02:07] that we get all the time and come back with
[1:02:10] the report. And I want to be very clear. We
[1:02:12] can simply. If any of these points don't sit well,
[1:02:16] we can simply cross them. Out now in the direction
[1:02:19] to staff and allow them to come back with a
[1:02:21] Folsom. Report. But what you're asking is to put everything
[1:02:24] on hold until the report comes back. And I'm just
[1:02:27] a little confused as to why when we're not asking
[1:02:30] for a decision. We're not going to confuse resident. Residents
[1:02:33] because nothing is being done. All that is happening is
[1:02:37] we're giving the staff the opportunity to get a head
[1:02:39] start on the work. Council. Agree. 100% I agree with
[1:02:47] you, but these are just minuscule points to the whole
[1:02:51] parking plan. And. This is one of the reasons why
[1:02:55] I think that we should refer this to that report.
[1:02:58] I'm not saying that any of these are bad. I'm
[1:03:00] not saying that we shouldn't. Be debating them. I'm saying
[1:03:02] that there's a right time to debate. Them. And I
[1:03:06] think that we need that input from staff to come
[1:03:09] back as a report which will be happening and. I
[1:03:14] do get it. I just think that. We need to
[1:03:19] do this as a whole. Instead of just. Specific line
[1:03:24] by lines. Quick question through the chair to councilor bureau.
[1:03:29] What do you think? The report is coming back? With
[1:03:31] because it's simply going to be a report that says
[1:03:32] either we have a parking problem. We don't have a
[1:03:34] parking problem. We have a parking problem, and that's where
[1:03:38] you're going to be. Unfortunately, most likely incorrect. We don't
[1:03:41] have a parking problem. And that report, that's going to
[1:03:43] come back is going to clearly indicate that there is.
[1:03:45] Not necessarily. Again, I'm assuming so. Are you? But the
[1:03:48] reality is. This report isn't going to have anything to
[1:03:52] do with a parking strategy. This report is. Only going
[1:03:55] to tell us whether there is an issue with parking
[1:03:57] or there isn't an issue with parking. That has nothing
[1:04:00] to do with this motion that is on the table.
[1:04:02] The motion. That's on the table is about relooking at
[1:04:05] the entire parking strategy and having a report from staff
[1:04:08] so that we can have the debate. That we both
[1:04:11] agree we want to have. So we are. But it's
[1:04:14] about this report. We need to put this on the
[1:04:17] council. Table now so that it goes to regular council
[1:04:20] at the end of the month, so that in March.
[1:04:23] Our staff can start working on this report. The timing
[1:04:25] of this matters, and that's why this has been put
[1:04:27] forward. Now. Now is the right time because now we
[1:04:31] talk about it. Now it doesn't happen. It simply goes
[1:04:34] on the docket for the end of the month, meaning
[1:04:36] at the end of February, this council will then have
[1:04:39] a discussion around this. And if this council decides to
[1:04:42] then ask for a report again. No changes, no parking,
[1:04:47] no anything. Simply a report. We will get that report.
[1:04:50] Till at earliest march or April. So now. Is the
[1:04:54] actual right time if we want to fix our summer
[1:04:56] parking problems, now is when we have to start doing
[1:04:58] the foresight. So that's why I'm just being very. Clear.
[1:05:02] I'm pushing back because this is exactly the right time.
[1:05:04] It's why I rushed. To get this on the docket.
[1:05:07] Thank you, worship. Councilor bureau. And then I believe I
[1:05:11] saw Councilor Darling's hand. Up. I think we're saying the
[1:05:14] same thing, but different. This is going to go on
[1:05:19] the council agenda anyways with whatever motion we come up
[1:05:23] with. Or it stays the same. So it's all going
[1:05:26] to be debated then as well. The question is. Are
[1:05:31] we moving this exactly the way it is to the
[1:05:33] council agenda? I'm okay with that if we're going to
[1:05:36] be debating on each parking thing, then I'm not. Doing
[1:05:39] that, but I think we're saying the exact same thing,
[1:05:41] because regardless, it's either going to go for information purposes
[1:05:44] and into the report, or we're going to be debating
[1:05:46] it at February 20 eigth. So either way, again, I
[1:05:51] agree. Do we need to talk about parking? 100%. Do
[1:05:55] we need to figure out the best ways to move
[1:05:56] forward. Absolutely. So to save arguments and time, this is
[1:06:02] going to go on to the agenda, then I'm all
[1:06:05] for it. Yes. Before I go to councilor Darling there.
[1:06:10] Yeah. Basically, any of these items are going to be
[1:06:13] going to the regular council and then obviously from that
[1:06:16] we'll get taken into consideration. Of the overall report that
[1:06:20] Mr. Lermer and his team are already working on. Let's
[1:06:24] go to Councilor Darling. Thank you, chair. The mayor did
[1:06:31] answer some because I'm looking at the timelines here, which
[1:06:34] it says to the next committee. Which is in March,
[1:06:39] and then it'll go back to council for March, the
[1:06:41] end of March. I guess my concern comes in is
[1:06:46] it's getting late in the year. And. Will we have
[1:06:50] time to pass it? And the citizens get to buy
[1:06:53] their $40 passes if we stay with them or if
[1:06:55] we change the passing. Will it give bylaw and all
[1:07:00] the staff time, or are we rushing this for this
[1:07:03] year? I have concerns, but. Just the timelines. I just
[1:07:08] wanted to bring that up. Thank you. I'm going to
[1:07:11] go to Mr. Larmer because I know him and I
[1:07:13] have had discussions about this on when the report's coming,
[1:07:18] and these are just some notes to potentially add to
[1:07:22] that report. And potential information. I know there may be
[1:07:27] some issues with some of them in their implementation, but.
[1:07:30] If I gave Mr. Lamber to speak to that. Yes.
[1:07:36] So through to the committee members. So we have council
[1:07:39] has the current provided. In 2023. Direction to staff that
[1:07:44] we're working on, and there's two reports. Just to clarify,
[1:07:46] the standing committee, there's one that public works is working
[1:07:48] on, which is? The guarding the parking feasibility study. So
[1:07:52] that's coming back to council. The separate one was directed
[1:07:55] by council. Believe it was through notice of the motion
[1:07:58] and what we're working on. Right now. And finalizing was
[1:08:01] the direction to report back an options to create a
[1:08:03] townwide annual resident parking permit, including the improved ease of
[1:08:07] parking for residents and also some additional downtown parking options.
[1:08:12] To make parking in the downtown waterfront area more consistent,
[1:08:14] understandable, and more accessible to all. So we're looking at
[1:08:17] all those options. In regards to that, we also had
[1:08:20] direction for council. Regarding accessible permit purchased a regular fee
[1:08:23] holder for designated accessible parking spaces. Increasing the fine for
[1:08:28] accessible spaces to 450 from the current 300. So we're
[1:08:31] looking at that as well too, on those options. And
[1:08:34] the second one we're looking at is in regards to
[1:08:37] a downtown business employee permit. Any suggestions with comments from
[1:08:41] the BIA, because the DBI back in summer or fall
[1:08:45] last year did provide some additional information on what they'd
[1:08:48] like to see in the downtown. So we're working with
[1:08:50] those well, too. So essentially, we're hoping for this report
[1:08:54] back in March for sure. I agree with councilor. Time
[1:08:58] creeps up on us as well, too, so that's. One
[1:09:01] of the concerns. We want to also get this in
[1:09:03] front of council as quick as we can, especially with
[1:09:05] the notice of motion that council doors to go through
[1:09:07] in this conversation and we know that parking is always.
[1:09:11] A very high level. Discussion here as well as the
[1:09:14] community. But I just want to also say that. We
[1:09:17] did really do in the last two years, two and
[1:09:19] a half years, really robust discussion and look at the
[1:09:21] waterfront area. We had meetings, we had areas. We developed
[1:09:25] a pass where I think our residents are really caught
[1:09:27] on now. With that real trial period then. We reviewed
[1:09:31] it last year too, as well. So I think that's
[1:09:33] important to know. And what some of those comments on
[1:09:36] there is like, I think that we currently have got
[1:09:38] it. Right. Based on what we really talked about, the
[1:09:40] waterfront area, and I believe that we can, in this
[1:09:43] report is going to come back that we can look
[1:09:45] at. A similar trial basis or options for the downtown
[1:09:50] area, too, for residents and have that combined as well,
[1:09:53] too, especially with the DBI and what they're experiencing as
[1:09:56] well, too, with parking. So that's what we are going
[1:09:58] to be bringing back. And I'm happy to take all
[1:10:01] of these options that the notice motion has provided back.
[1:10:05] We could also discuss those in the parking report as
[1:10:08] well. I think one of the ones I just want
[1:10:10] to bring the attention to this committee too, is that
[1:10:12] I would maybe have a bit. Of concern on that
[1:10:15] is just regarding that all paid parking the town be
[1:10:17] suspended until new parks trash implanted. I would raise issue
[1:10:21] with that one. Well, we should just continue the status
[1:10:23] quo until we start. To look at everything and review,
[1:10:27] and council has an opportunity to do that, and maybe
[1:10:30] council or. This committee wants to give some advice to
[1:10:33] council or recommendation to council that we put a hard
[1:10:35] timeline on a report back that maybe you say March
[1:10:37] has to come to march and council endorsed that it
[1:10:39] puts more of a time frame. On our staff to
[1:10:41] get back with it, but just be cognizant of council
[1:10:44] that. The last few meetings, especially in January, there has
[1:10:46] been a lot of work that has been given to
[1:10:48] staff from this council, especially when it comes to law
[1:10:52] enforcement. So we are trying our best. But if this
[1:10:55] is a priority of the standing committee to council endorse,
[1:10:58] we will make sure that we get that well before
[1:11:00] the. Summer, spring season. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Larmer. Your
[1:11:08] worship. Happy to amend the motion as Mr. Larmer has
[1:11:11] recommended. Happy to remove that. Last notice off the motion
[1:11:15] and happy to take that off and to put a
[1:11:16] date on if this council. If this committee said, as
[1:11:19] I said, there is nothing that I'm holding on. To
[1:11:21] personally here with these recommendations from Mr. Larmer. I'm open
[1:11:24] to those suggestions. To have that removed from the notice
[1:11:26] of motion, since I believe. You're the second or whoever
[1:11:30] seconded that. It's up to you whether you're okay with
[1:11:32] it as well. So, Mr. Armor, then I would ask
[1:11:34] that through you to Mr. Larmer, that your two recommendations,
[1:11:37] one, that all paid parking be removed. The suggestion and
[1:11:40] further that you add that date. That's sort of moving
[1:11:43] along. Everyone clear? With the amendments on it. Any questions
[1:11:52] or further discussion. Okay, one more comment. Sorry. I'll put
[1:11:58] the amendment up and I just want to. Is the
[1:12:00] committee going to. Recommend. A timeline for council consider to
[1:12:05] put on staff. Does the report come to council directly
[1:12:09] or does it come to the committee first and the
[1:12:11] next? Okay. Yeah. The way the standing structure is, it
[1:12:21] would come to the committee responsible for that, which is.
[1:12:23] Here. But again, this committee can recommend to go directly
[1:12:25] to council as that piece of it, but. I think
[1:12:28] what's going to happen with this? This will have to
[1:12:29] come to council anyways. The end of the month be
[1:12:31] endorsed too. So council can you endorse whether you decide
[1:12:33] to come back to the committee or to council, so
[1:12:35] I'm sure there might be. More of a discussion of
[1:12:37] all. Members of council, too, on this. So I think
[1:12:42] regardless. If somebody would have liked to put a timeline
[1:12:45] on it, it would either have to come to the
[1:12:48] beginning of the month. In march. Or.
[1:12:59] Towards the end of March. If it was towards the
[1:13:01] end of March, obviously. Income rate to council. Then obviously
[1:13:05] that would give staff more time, but if the committee
[1:13:09] would like it to come earlier. Just obviously to Mr.
[1:13:12] Lermer's comments on. The workload. So I'll leave that up
[1:13:18] to the members of the committee, if they would like
[1:13:20] to. Put amendment on that. Councilor Bureau. The regular council
[1:13:29] in March. I think that timeline from February 28 to
[1:13:32] the five days after six days after to get the
[1:13:36] report. And. Okay with.
[1:13:47] That date, okay? Sir. Mr. Larmer, you typing that up
[1:13:52] as an amendment or something? Right now, I figure that's.
[1:14:04] Well, Mr. Larry is just typing that up. Do you
[1:14:06] have any questions, councilor darling? Okay, perfect.
[1:14:55] Councilor bureau. You're good with that? As it's written. Okay,
[1:15:00] your worship.
[1:15:18] Your worship. Just to clarify, Mr. Larmer, that means that
[1:15:21] these recommendations will be part of. The report. Thank you
[1:15:24] very much. Thank you so much. That's right. That would
[1:15:30] be considered as part of the overall report. And obviously
[1:15:34] the staff. Would. Make sure they don't contradict other things,
[1:15:40] or so on and so forth. Okay, so there's been
[1:15:43] a lengthy discussion on this, so I'm going to call.
[1:15:46] The vote on this, I guess, is the amendment. So
[1:15:50] the amendment first. We got a mover. And seconder. I'm
[1:15:53] going to call the question. All those in favor? Opposed.
[1:15:57] If any, it's carried. Now back to the main motion,
[1:16:01] as amended. Any questions or concerns on it. Okay. All
[1:16:10] those in favor? And it's carried. At this time, we're
[1:16:15] moving on to department updates. I know director Taylor
[1:16:25] Scott has had to leave us, unfortunately, for some other
[1:16:28] matters, but I know. The CaO has a report. Update
[1:16:32] from her, and then we will go to director Gertz,
[1:16:35] fire chief and Mr. Alarm. If they have reports. Thank
[1:16:40] you to the chair. So under economic development, just wanted
[1:16:43] to highlight an exciting event that is. Coming soon. It's
[1:16:49] a partnered event between the town of Coburg and the
[1:16:51] Northumberland Central Chamber of. Commerce, and it is the celebration
[1:16:56] of the business awards, so very important events in our
[1:17:00] community. It takes place on Friday, March 22 at the
[1:17:03] best western. If you haven't had an opportunity to attend
[1:17:07] this event. We certainly want to highlight that for the
[1:17:10] community. This event recognizes business excellence in nine different sectors,
[1:17:15] as well as looks at the award of the James
[1:17:18] Crosson Award for lifetime achievement, the mayor's award and the
[1:17:21] Chambers. Chair award as well. So very exciting night. Nominations
[1:17:27] are open and can be completed on the chambers. Website.
[1:17:30] In addition from economic development staff will be attending the
[1:17:33] Economic Developers Council of Ontario's annual conference in Toronto. So
[1:17:38] this forum really brings together economic leaders from around the
[1:17:41] province and looks at the role of collaboration and innovation
[1:17:45] and how economic development staff and departments play a really
[1:17:49] key role. In shaping the future of Ontario's economy. So
[1:17:52] again, A very important event for Coberg to be participating
[1:17:57] in and to have our voice heard in terms of
[1:17:59] how we shape and explore the opportunities that are available
[1:18:02] to us. In the coming years. Moving on to venture
[1:18:07] 13. We have had. Some updates. So one of our
[1:18:12] venture zone members have departed, and I do want to
[1:18:15] again highlight that we recognize success where we know that
[1:18:19] venture 13 is an incubator. It provides an opportunity for
[1:18:23] folks to build their business footprint. And capacity and sustainability.
[1:18:28] So where we see that members have an opportunity to
[1:18:31] then become independently operating, this is a wonderful story and
[1:18:36] links right back to that economic development piece. Around healthy
[1:18:41] businesses in our community. We have also got four new
[1:18:45] members starting February 1, so. There's a really great cycle
[1:18:49] happening here. Our desk capacity and other great news story
[1:18:53] is close to 100% occupancy. We only have one desk
[1:18:56] vacant, so this is really. Good news with our venture
[1:19:00] zone members and offices are available for rent, so please,
[1:19:04] if any member of the public is interested. Reach out
[1:19:06] to our staff. They're happy to help. We have some
[1:19:09] new winter programming that will be happening. So. Our really
[1:19:13] popular strike up women's digital conference. The viewing party is
[1:19:17] happening on end of day panel discussion among local women
[1:19:21] in local business. So again, very important event February 23.
[1:19:26] Our Ontario center of Innovation program session is May 5,
[1:19:31] our March break. Stem camp so backed by popular demand.
[1:19:34] The stem camp is incredibly popular. So March 11 to
[1:19:39] 15th, that will be happening. Our chamber of Commerce meet
[1:19:42] and greet March 12. And AI in the workplace session
[1:19:47] is March 19. So really great suite of programming that
[1:19:51] is coming. Down the pipe. And with that, that is
[1:19:54] the economic development and venture 13 update. Excellent. We're going
[1:20:00] to move on. Any questions or comments from members of
[1:20:03] the committee? Okay? Perfect. Just a brief announcement, in case
[1:20:07] I haven't said it enough. We have the civic awards
[1:20:11] open. We are in the civic award reception. We do.
[1:20:17] Have a few categories where we have yet to receive
[1:20:20] a nomination, so I want to make sure that. Everyone
[1:20:22] knows that. If you've got those great volunteers, if you've
[1:20:25] got those great community members out there who haven't been
[1:20:28] recognized for their exceptional contributions as community. Please. Not buy.
[1:20:33] My office is always open or you can always speak
[1:20:34] to one of the Coberg. Staff here about the process
[1:20:37] to get. Someone nominated for a civic ward. Thank you,
[1:20:39] chair. Excellent. On to director goods. Thank you, chair. I
[1:20:47] do have a few exciting things going on. Winter is
[1:20:51] we're about midway through, and spring is upon us. Community
[1:20:54] services has a lot of change and exciting things planned
[1:20:56] for 2024. And we're well into implementation plans and working
[1:21:00] with staff on implementing all the important decisions and projects
[1:21:04] from the 2024 budget. The campground has an exciting new
[1:21:09] web sales. So web. Online booking that is working well
[1:21:13] and effective and. Almost all the sites that have now
[1:21:17] opened up are booked and sold, and we're excited. To
[1:21:20] see. Some that new tool to drive tourism to the
[1:21:24] waterfront and the downtown and allow staff to focus on
[1:21:29] some other maintenance activities and customer support. In the off
[1:21:33] season. The marina registrations have also opened. All the seasonal
[1:21:36] bookings have been taken, but there's lots of transient space
[1:21:40] available, but it is filling up very quickly. So I
[1:21:42] do encourage the public and visitors to book those times
[1:21:46] and spots quickly. On our free and public events. We
[1:21:50] have lots of trails and outdoor spaces. Obviously open to
[1:21:55] the public throughout the winter as well. But the rink
[1:21:58] with the outdoor rink with our fairly reasonable winter weather
[1:22:01] we've had lately. The ice is good quality and it's
[1:22:04] busy, but I do encourage people to make use of
[1:22:06] those before the spring weather comes. As far as other
[1:22:10] rooms and facilities we do have as part of the
[1:22:13] 2024 budget, some of the user fees have been updated
[1:22:16] and will increase in stages throughout the years. So I
[1:22:18] did want to encourage the public. To make use of
[1:22:22] this opportunity to take as many bookings as they can
[1:22:25] before the rates rise. There's a unique window of opportunity
[1:22:28] here to make use of those facilities at last. Year's
[1:22:31] prices. And one I did want to highlight one special
[1:22:36] project in the downtown, the Albert street washrooms. Project that
[1:22:39] was approved in previous year. Budget is moving along. It's
[1:22:42] been a little slower. Than we had hoped. But the
[1:22:45] doors are installed, so the building now looks ready. But
[1:22:48] there are still some mechanical works underway, and we will
[1:22:52] come back to council. With an opening date as soon
[1:22:55] as we know it, but thankfully, we're now measuring in
[1:22:58] weeks instead of months. There's some hardware, like the accessibility
[1:23:02] door opening hardware that we don't yet have in our
[1:23:04] hands, so we need to get that installed before it's
[1:23:07] fully open to the public, but we're exciting to see
[1:23:09] progress there, and we'd be able to reactivate that building
[1:23:12] in a new way. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Excellent. Any
[1:23:16] questions? Comments from members of council? Perfect. No. Appreciate the
[1:23:22] update on the washrooms, because I know. That's a hot
[1:23:26] topic in the community. And that's excited that that's getting
[1:23:31] done. Chief. Thank you, chair. We've completed the hiring process
[1:23:37] for volunteer firefighters. We'll be hiring four in the next
[1:23:40] week or so, and that'll bring our compliment up to
[1:23:43] 20, so. We'll have our full compliment again. The posting
[1:23:47] will be going out in two weeks for two career
[1:23:50] firefighters. We also conducted ice water rescue training last weekend
[1:23:54] with half the fire department. We did have a lot
[1:23:57] of bystanders, including the mayor and his son. The weather
[1:24:01] was favorable for our training. And we'll be doing it
[1:24:04] again for the other half department in two weeks. The
[1:24:07] delivery date for the new fire truck will be August.
[1:24:11] I'll put that in pencil, because I'm not sure if
[1:24:13] that's going. To be the actual date. We've also secured
[1:24:18] the OFM live fire training trailer for this county. So
[1:24:22] last year. It was in Hamilton. This year we've secured
[1:24:26] it, so it will be at our fire. Station for
[1:24:28] a week in July, and we'll be conducting live fire
[1:24:31] training with all seven. Departments. And for the year to
[1:24:34] date, we responded to 199 calls for service. That's my
[1:24:40] report. Excellent. Thank you for the update. Any questions or
[1:24:46] comments from members of council? No seeing that. Mr. Larmer,
[1:24:51] do you have anything to update us on? Yeah, I'll
[1:24:55] just briefly give stats from the municipal law enforcement department
[1:24:59] for just the month. Of January. So we're at 92
[1:25:01] calls for service January. So these are calls received from
[1:25:05] the public and acted upon by our officers. And just
[1:25:08] to let everyone know, the officers right now. Are scheduled
[1:25:11] almost a full 24 hours a day on separate shifts.
[1:25:15] So the public can call the bylaw line or the
[1:25:18] main number and get bylaw. And they can proceed with
[1:25:21] their complaint. It will be lodged and will be dispatched
[1:25:23] to officers. So just for everyone knows that they can
[1:25:27] call any time of the day, report any municipal law.
[1:25:29] Enforcement. Issue. We have issued 157 administrative monitor penalties today.
[1:25:36] So 150. Sorry. As of today's date, 150. Parking, and
[1:25:40] then seven other bylaw and fractions. We've issued 237 licensing
[1:25:44] events, so. We've been quite busy in that department, and
[1:25:46] through amps we've conducted already. 17 screenings in the month
[1:25:49] of January. So our numbers will be up from amps
[1:25:50] that we reported for 2020. Three. And just one last
[1:25:54] highlight I would like to just say is that the
[1:25:57] bylaw department for Koberg is an active participant in the
[1:26:00] Eastern Regional Regulatory hub, which is a group of individuals
[1:26:03] from different ministries, agencies and authorities. They come together every
[1:26:06] six weeks, and our manager sits on that. Discuss top
[1:26:08] of mind issues and commonalities and how regulatory enforcement services
[1:26:13] delivered. And I think this is a good step the
[1:26:15] province has done in order to get a lot of
[1:26:17] like minded municipal law enforcement agencies together to discuss issues.
[1:26:22] So the issues right now is a date that we've
[1:26:24] been part of is building public trust in response to
[1:26:27] protests. Misinformation antigovernment, and sediment addressing sector challenges so involving
[1:26:33] move. Movement of access contained soil and rideshare services, so
[1:26:37] delivering bait products to miners is a big one as
[1:26:40] well, too, which we're working the province to assist for
[1:26:43] that unlicensed. Businesses, so involving illegal online sales of food
[1:26:47] and tobacco, as well as home based businesses and then
[1:26:50] the sharing information portion, receiving referrals, tips related to labor
[1:26:54] trafficking. And then heads up alerts for officer safety and
[1:26:56] best practices. And then in regards to program delivery through
[1:26:59] discussions with the ministries. It's involving creation of new compliance
[1:27:02] programs, policies improving compliance outcomes using behavioral insights. So this
[1:27:07] whole program, or whole participation has the ability to share
[1:27:10] knowledge, resources access training and build capacity for collab. Collaboration.
[1:27:15] And we feel, and as discussed with the manager, this
[1:27:18] is a real valuable asset to the town. To be
[1:27:19] part of this group provincial wide. So that is all
[1:27:22] I have to report. Excellent. Are there any questions from
[1:27:26] members of council? Great seeing none. I believe that is
[1:27:32] all the updates from staff. Perfect. So at this time,
[1:27:36] I'm going to call for adjournment. That's at two minutes
[1:27:40] to eleven. Pretty good.