[4:47] and i had been watering the last two years started with the group

[4:52] last year it happened that i was the only volunteer that came back

[4:56] so i watered mondays and wednesdays and the city had a young

[5:02] summer helpers a boy and a girl water on fridays

[5:05] our flowers looked good but they weren't spectacular and then when i heard they

[5:10] weren't coming back i was very disappointed and i

[5:15] asked a couple people well do you think i could

[5:18] do something and so i put an ad in the paper helped me save the flowers for

[5:23] twenty twenty two and as of now

[5:28] i have raised nine thousand six hundred and

[5:31] twenty dollars i believe is the total so you know that people want our flowers to

[5:37] appear again um i don't think i would have collected

[5:41] that much money if i had if there wasn't a need or a liking having them make our

[5:45] city look good um

[5:49] this is great we're on track thompson's nursery was told that they

[5:54] weren't going to get the contract back and i called them right away when i

[5:59] started my

[6:02] advertising to catch donations or get donations and

[6:07] they said they would hold their flower order and they did and we

[6:11] have those flowers growing out at thompson's nursery they're little

[6:16] but they're gonna grow and they're gonna

[6:18] look great but when i worked when i started out i

[6:22] called um a gal that started the flower project in

[6:27] saint joe her name was carol tyson and carol said surely your flowers look

[6:32] good but i believe they're too tall you just don't get the dramatic beautiful

[6:36] effect because you have to look up they should really be kind of at an eye level

[6:44] so my concern then too was um maybe to lower those and get some new brackets i

[6:52] checked with a manufacturer in saint joe he was supposed to call me back with a

[6:58] dollar amount today but the city had kind of what i heard

[7:03] from bridget that the city doesn't want me to go ahead with any new brackets

[7:07] we'd just like to see them the way they are

[7:11] well that's i know we talked about it

[7:14] but we just we were just worried more

[7:18] when it's lower about vandalism i went to saint joe today to research

[7:23] that um i talked to joe bechtold he's one of

[7:26] the guys they have three gentlemen that have been

[7:30] watering their flowers and they start at five in the morning

[7:34] there are three dairy farmers that are retired and they had time so they would

[7:38] get up at five in the morning and water there they would each take a week in the

[7:43] month um joe said that yes he did see once

[7:47] some kids stinging around with them but he

[7:50] told them that if they were going to do that they were going to water those

[7:54] flowers for the rest of the summer obviously they didn't really want to

[7:57] work so they didn't mess with them and i did check with the city hall at saint

[8:02] joe today i talked to a ryan and he said that they have not had an incident with

[8:08] the police department on any vandalism although that doesn't mean our bars

[8:12] won't have individuals that might want to mess with them

[8:16] but they're they're um i would like ours are

[8:20] 12 feet high st joe's are 10. so they do the flower baskets then come

[8:26] down about a foot with their leggings onto the basket

[8:30] um i guess i would like you to think about it i did take some

[8:35] pictures i could show you their pole then one other concerned was that the

[8:41] poles would stick out to the city that it could catch on a truck or something

[8:45] no the poles go just like the rods go just like they are and they have a metal

[8:51] they're made of steel and they buckle around the circle and then

[8:56] bolts go through so they said that they would

[9:00] sustain at least a hundred pound basket on each side and our baskets

[9:06] approximately with x number of gallons of water are 80

[9:11] could be up to 80 pounds so i wouldn't want you to get anything that wasn't

[9:18] certified or you know provided a good guarantee that something wouldn't happen

[9:24] to the to the bracket

[9:27] um again i just want to then just tell you thank you for letting me go ahead

[9:31] with the program um john's been good about helping me

[9:34] keep that little toro running the last couple years

[9:39] and i do appreciate that and we are going to make those flowers look the

[9:43] best we can this summer and you know i thought even if i could

[9:48] ask if i could get the gentleman to build me

[9:52] four sets you know i have money in that kind of that budget that i

[9:57] grew even if we could hang some and then just

[10:00] see how they do and see if it is that more effective

[10:05] beautiful ie you know but again that's up to you and if we want to just leave

[10:10] it this summer that's fine maybe we can review it again next summer

[10:15] um the money that i have left over i will

[10:18] just leave in that fund just to let you know how much i wanted

[10:22] this program i have a thousand dollars that i put into that fund and we would

[10:26] only need a couple more hundred dollars so we would have enough money for the

[10:30] flowers for next year already so you guys would be

[10:35] kind of off the hook because i i st joe is such a beautiful

[10:40] community and those flowers just pop and i would like to see that happen for

[10:46] our community especially with the splash pad and the trails

[10:50] good businesses that people will come to town with price of gas and still covet

[10:56] hopefully they'll still spend or maybe more people will come to our community

[11:00] over summer so thank you for letting me tell me my

[11:04] story and um thank you thanks really very good thank

[11:08] you yeah thanks really appreciate your work

[11:11] very good somebody

[11:18] okay anybody else not on the agenda that wants to speak

[11:23] otherwise

[11:26] oh

[11:34] otherwise we'll move on to number three approval of

[11:37] the amended agenda i need a motion to approve the amended agenda i'll move

[11:43] mike makes a motion how about a second i'll do it all right

[11:48] any discussion on it otherwise all those in favor say aye

[11:52] against motion carries number four consent agenda

[11:56] recommendation to approve the consent agenda

[11:59] as presented i need a motion on that i'll make that motion friend makes a

[12:03] motion how about a second a second shannon seconds it any

[12:08] discussion on it otherwise all those in favor say aye aye

[12:12] against promotion carries number five revolving loan fund

[12:16] agreement for khk properties llc gary keys and greg keys

[12:27] [Music]

[12:32] you have to hold it down a little longer there you go

[12:37] hello hi hi uh

[12:40] should i talk do you wanna i could start okay um

[12:43] so at the eda meeting earlier this month

[12:48] eda recommended approving a revolving loan fund

[12:52] agreement with gary and greg for their khk properties

[12:57] for the demolition of the keys building there were some

[13:02] at that meeting on that monday which was the day before last city council meeting

[13:07] there were some adjustments to some of the language so it had been in your

[13:10] packet but pulled out so what you got this week was just the new agreement

[13:14] with uh you had seen the red line

[13:17] i think you saw the red line but it's now um it's accurate to what it's

[13:21] supposed to be and so it's here now um

[13:24] for council discussion okay you guys got anything else

[13:29] i guess i don't know exactly what you guys have all heard

[13:32] i mean if you're pretty informed i don't know if there's more for us to discuss

[13:35] if you guys have questions i mean if you want to give just a quick

[13:38] brief just for the people that might be watching or sure anyone here yeah so

[13:43] we're

[13:46] um through a partnership from our grandparents actually

[13:51] and most people probably realize there's

[13:53] been a lot of environmental issues concerns

[13:57] my grandparents have done quite a bit of the work already on that but there's

[14:01] still more to be done so what we came to you guys with was the

[14:04] requesting money under the revolving loan fund to

[14:08] tear it down um abate some potential environmental concerns and things like

[14:14] that um and then furthermore we're looking to develop the

[14:18] property into something you know down the road but at this point we're just

[14:21] looking to acquire it get it torn down and then from there develop it

[14:27] all right thank you i'm going to read a recommendation then

[14:32] to approve k properties llc for a

[14:37] loan from the revolving loan fund of up to 85 000

[14:42] i need a motion i'll make the motion brand makes the motion how about a

[14:45] second mic seconds at any discussion

[14:49] otherwise all those in favor say aye aye against motion carries there you go all

[14:54] right thank you again thanks guys

[14:58] number six resolution 2022-13 a resolution approving

[15:03] a special use permit for grafton integrated health systems

[15:08] hello hi i'm lori schmidt i'm the executive

[15:12] director at grafton um

[15:26] can you hear me now okay i'll start over yeah under our code

[15:31] fence heights are maxed out at um six feet

[15:36] in the city code for industrial and commercial it can be eight feet but

[15:40] under a special use permit it can go up higher than that

[15:43] and uh grafton has submitted a special use permit came to planning last week

[15:48] to talk a little bit about the need and i'll let laurie talk about that in a

[15:51] second and planning did make a

[15:55] recommendation to approve the special use but i'll let laurie explain why they

[15:59] need okay um

[16:01] so we currently had submitted our original plan with an eight foot fence

[16:06] for to develop a playground area for

[16:09] the children that will be serving if you're not familiar with grafton we're

[16:12] developing a

[16:15] up to 30 bed residential facility for children with mental health and

[16:21] also intellectual with disabilities or autism

[16:25] so these are kids that you know are our experi we'll be out at

[16:29] home and residing in our facility um

[16:33] anywhere between three and six months typically

[16:37] but some of them have behaviors

[16:41] and some of them are non-verbal but very capable of running and an eight-foot

[16:47] fence creates an obstacle course as i explained to the planning and

[16:52] zoning and as i've talked to the police

[16:55] department about and some of our staff might be able to

[16:59] follow but some of ours might not be able to jump the fences easily

[17:03] and so a 12-foot fence is what we have in our

[17:06] existing facility in berryville virginia and that has been found to be very

[17:11] successful in preventing

[17:14] children from scaling and leaving the facility

[17:18] so it's for our children's health and safety especially with county road 2 so

[17:22] close and with the semi-traffic going to

[17:26] the distribution air and brewing

[17:32] um so with all of that we felt that we really needed to make sure that the

[17:36] children couldn't get out as easily um there's no barbed wire we plan to do

[17:41] the landscaping around it we don't want it to look institutional we want it to

[17:45] look very inviting and

[17:47] and welcoming the last thing we want people to think is that you have some

[17:51] sort of you know

[17:54] prisoner they're caged in there exactly and we wouldn't want

[17:58] anyone to believe that we're caging children because that's not that's not

[18:01] good for anyone so

[18:03] we plan to put a nice playground in the in the area here within the fence and we

[18:08] plan to we're looking at putting tiles in the fence it's a small

[18:13] length fence not the big chain link because we don't want their thing the

[18:17] bigger chain links are easier to scale so we do look at that too

[18:21] um but there's little tiles we can get to make it more decorative we found out

[18:25] and then we plan to do some greenery around it and actually try and beautify

[18:29] it around it both inside and outside the fence line

[18:33] so with all of that considered i have

[18:36] talked to the chief of police chief bloom

[18:38] and he was supportive of it i think he will agree

[18:45] it will reduce the calls and and risk of children leaving

[18:50] there will be a gate the only vehicles that can access inside is with the gate

[18:55] opening and that would be our recycling but at that point children wouldn't be

[18:58] out there or if there was some reason to do any

[19:01] work in that area of the building all right

[19:06] i will read the recommendation then to approve resolution

[19:12] 2022-13 a resolution allowing for a 12-foot fence at

[19:18] at property located 224 craze mill road

[19:23] in the c3 highway commercial district i need a motion on that

[19:28] motion shannon makes motion mike second it yep

[19:31] mike seconds at any discussion on it otherwise all those in favor say aye aye

[19:36] against motion carries there you go thank you very much question for you how

[19:40] many do you have any children up there or anyone plan to be

[19:44] up there we we've currently acquired our first of our

[19:48] two licenses okay yeah i know that um so we have our slf

[19:52] supervised living facility license in place

[19:56] dhs is coming out on friday to do a site inspection for our variance

[20:01] license which will allow us to start taking children

[20:05] um and we have completed our hires but had to bump our orientation for our

[20:10] final nursing hires to may

[20:14] 9th i think that's a monday so getting much closer so we plan we're looking at

[20:19] mid-may for our first um

[20:22] admits yeah

[20:24] nice yeah so we're very excited it was exciting and that will bring families

[20:28] we'll we expect family therapy so we want our families to come visit the

[20:32] children so that will bring people to the community so

[20:36] we're putting a list of to-do's so if you have recommendations of

[20:40] activities for families let us know all right thank you thank you thank you um

[20:45] leave it on

[20:50] all right number seven ordinance 400 and ordinance allowing for

[20:55] community centers in the residential districts by special use

[21:00] yes this is being presented by city staff myself and

[21:04] some of our admin staff in the

[21:09] current zoning use table

[21:13] community centers are not allowed in residential districts

[21:17] um there is

[21:20] um coming before you the field house issue which would fall under the

[21:23] definition of community center and would not be allowed at the park because

[21:27] that's r1 but in addition and this is an ongoing issue i keep finding

[21:33] about three years ago

[21:36] the school district came to me about some

[21:40] construction and i realized that

[21:43] schools weren't allowed in the r1 but our schools are zoned in all r1

[21:48] and so we amended the the city council at that

[21:52] time did a text amendment to put schools as a special use permit well community

[21:57] centers i don't know if anyone watched or was at the school board meeting last

[22:01] night they've done their facility survey and one of the things that's

[22:06] a potential referendum question is about a community center on their campus

[22:11] for like indoor community rec et cetera which wouldn't be allowed for them to

[22:16] build on that campus because it's not allowed right now

[22:19] we don't want to permit some uses that really need some site you know oversight

[22:25] on traffic flow on size on all those items that can cause congestion noise et

[22:31] cetera and so

[22:35] we proposed planning last week they recommend approving this ordinance

[22:40] to allow community centers in the r1 by special

[22:43] use so that people have to submit plans they have to come to you talk to you

[22:48] and you can give them advice and guidance on what is and isn't allowed

[22:52] so all right recommendation then

[22:57] to approve ordinance 400 allowing community centers in residential

[23:02] districts by special use permits i need a motion on that

[23:07] we'll make a motion shannon makes a motion

[23:10] mike seconds at any discussion on it otherwise all those in favor say aye aye

[23:15] against motion carries all right number eight construction

[23:20] committee community survey and site inspection for

[23:25] granite landing discussion

[23:29] ken kramer and audrey nirenhausen hello hi

[23:41] so we're just kind of giving an overview of what we've done the last few meetings

[23:45] right okay

[23:48] do you want to start i'll start our first meeting we were separated the

[23:55] we had the two committees and then our last meeting we brought it

[23:58] together and we visited

[24:01] saint joe and sartell and then for the library that was for

[24:04] the pd and then we got to see the fire station

[24:07] as well in sartell and then the last one we went to

[24:11] kimball and we have panadal libraries

[24:15] and then with that we had some discussion

[24:19] that we've all kind of had different feedback from community members

[24:23] all of us you know different people talking to

[24:26] each one of us and then the architect recommended doing

[24:30] a outside survey or having an outside third party do a survey so the community

[24:35] could be involved so the community could give

[24:38] their take on things and the survey correct me if i'm wrong

[24:42] is real non-biased

[24:45] so it's there

[24:48] they get information from all of us and then they create the questions in a

[24:53] non-biased way to get community members feedback

[24:57] and then from there we'll decide how to move forward with

[25:00] the project and as as to that

[25:06] and i wanted some guidance on this from all of you so the school district is

[25:10] earlier in their discussions than you all have been in the city has been for

[25:14] the last year and a half so

[25:18] the window's going to be coming on may

[25:23] 10th for our next meeting oh yeah and they're going to give us all the

[25:27] different layouts that they you know the committee has said well

[25:31] what about these two together and what about these two together so the goal is

[25:34] to have the committee come to you with or tell wendell and then wendell will

[25:39] give a report to you that these are what the configurations they came up with and

[25:44] these are what the committee is recommending

[25:46] so the question is do we do the survey on whether to do

[25:49] anything at all or do we wait and have the survey be

[25:53] okay at may we're hoping to have that at a special council meeting on may 31st so

[25:57] on may 31st the council will say focus on this con these two together and

[26:03] these two together or this one you know once you've made a overall arching

[26:07] is it two departments together is it three locations whatever you come up

[26:11] with then survey on cost estimates etc so i have a question for you bridget i'm

[26:17] sorry to interrupt you can you are we making sure that all the costs

[26:21] that we're incurring since

[26:25] this has begun this new committee and everything um is

[26:30] separated from the

[26:33] actual project because i want to see like how

[26:38] much this is costing the city and then are we really going to be

[26:43] saving money in the end i'm just ultimately very curious about that

[26:48] um so that in future in future projects we

[26:52] can say hey no you know what you guys we actually tried that before and it didn't

[26:57] save us any money it just it just wasted six months or three months or

[27:03] two months so since september what so what we paid up

[27:07] through september and then when this when we stopped and started this new

[27:10] process yes yeah because it would be

[27:14] it would be just whatever is costing us on this new process that we're doing

[27:19] until we start the project back up again in my sense just to see like are we

[27:24] actually going to be saving money or is it going to just be a wash

[27:29] and we just lost three months worth of work time so

[27:35] i'm just out of curiosity yep so i'm going to

[27:39] show up at the next meeting just so i can vote

[27:45] i can't but

[27:50] [Laughter]

[27:55] um sure i can i can bring that to the

[27:57] council if they if the remaining council members want to hear that yeah yeah no

[28:02] no no i think that'd be something that we

[28:05] should look at yes

[28:09] mike i like the idea of a community survey and it would seem to me it would

[28:12] make some sense to have it after this next meeting so they'd have

[28:17] something tangible to look at and see i know it is really time sensitive do you

[28:22] remember what she said it was it really had to fall perfectly to get it out

[28:27] um i did call so because they had a marketing firm do

[28:31] theirs who's familiar with the cold spring

[28:34] record area i did call the the gentleman that performed the recory one to ask him

[28:39] about timing and everything and he said if if you wanted to do it before you

[28:44] even decide configuration or you wait to

[28:47] configuration of them then you do it and then you do it either way there's plenty

[28:51] of time there is okay yeah how is this getting out to the community what they

[28:55] did is a phone survey so they do a random selection we give them everyone's

[29:01] everyone in the city water like do we base it off of

[29:05] we would do it on the on the taxpayers of cold spring so they would get the

[29:09] whole and they would do a random they got all of the taxpayers of

[29:13] um mccoy school district and i think they

[29:17] did 24 were from residents of cold spring

[29:20] and i think it was 18 where wakefield and 11 11 where richmond and

[29:26] rockville 400 and then the rest were the other

[29:29] outlying um townships and they get 400 calls and

[29:33] they said that's a plus or minus of 5 so it's

[29:37] like any random telephone survey and those

[29:41] i didn't ask them but i i would assume those are quicker to do you know you get

[29:45] the responses back quick and those are people who answer the phone

[29:49] yeah and they only got and five percent hang up so out of the

[29:53] they got 400 responses so okay five percent

[29:57] or cell phones they were doing both they even they in that survey they said

[30:01] what was it what were the numbers they broke it down

[30:05] even like how many households that they surveyed are just cell phone households

[30:10] how many are just landline houses and how many are both

[30:13] so they explained how they cut they got people with cell phones they got people

[30:16] with landlines they got people who own both

[30:19] wasn't the average phone call approximately 15 minutes yeah some were

[30:23] 45 and others yeah there were

[30:27] it was it i would suggest if you didn't watch it watch his presentation it was

[30:31] very interesting it just seems that so many people are

[30:35] getting spam calls all the time no and

[30:39] you know are people going to pick up or they're going to come across a spam

[30:42] caller i i don't know but they ended up getting 400 so

[30:46] i don't know how many didn't pick up but they got 400 responses so i don't

[30:50] know what the number of total calls 800 people to get 400 right i don't know i

[30:55] have to find that out i don't think they only call them 400. probably or

[30:59] something could be they only called 400. they only called 400 and it was if i'm

[31:04] not mistaken four percent hung up on them the rest of them oh okay

[31:09] that's how that's how that works answer one way or the other forward against

[31:13] them whatever some were shorter but you're right up to 45 minutes was some

[31:18] discussions yeah so

[31:21] and i think that cost 16 000 yeah he gave me a proposal that if we're doing

[31:26] it as the after you know when you already say

[31:30] okay fire and police are going to be together city hall or on this location

[31:34] once a decision on what the makeup of each

[31:37] structure would be it would then be a survey based on that

[31:41] and that's 12 000. so you said so that would only be 16

[31:45] people who didn't partake in the survey out of 400.

[31:51] 16 people would i there has to be more people that didn't answer their phone i

[31:54] can't imagine it would be only 16 people out of 400.

[31:58] there was a lot of publicity with that survey though so people may be expecting

[32:03] yeah and we would do that to anticipating it and the architect did

[32:06] say that too to put it in the paper we would put it everywhere

[32:10] if they're anticipating that and then that's different yeah and we would do

[32:13] that if that's what you want to do so i think it would be nice for the

[32:18] community to feel like they have a voice involved yeah that they're involved

[32:22] because whenever anyone has said things to me and i say go to a meeting tuesday

[32:26] night that's exactly that's what i get no i'm

[32:29] not going i'm not quite no i'm not going to that but this way

[32:32] they can voice their opinion be part of it and then they can't and they can be

[32:36] anonymous yeah and they can't complain if it you know they had their voice they

[32:40] had their chance perfect yep you got to take action on

[32:43] that no i don't think at this time i think at may 10th we'll

[32:47] we'll have more from we meet that morning or

[32:50] that late afternoon or something like that

[32:52] and i'll have some more information and then probably at that point discuss with

[32:56] you if you want to go on with the survey in it in which way you want to do it be

[33:00] pre-determination of who goes with who or post because the tenth is when we

[33:05] look at the plans for the latest when we make the recommendation to you

[33:09] but you won't get that report until may 31st so

[33:12] do we do the survey based on what the recommendation is

[33:16] going to be to you or wait till you make a decision

[33:19] on what you're probably going to get two or

[33:21] three different configurations so

[33:25] do you want it based on those two or do you want it based on what you decide and

[33:29] then we can put dollar numbers on that as well because if it's

[33:32] library and city hall and police are going here or fire's going here then we

[33:36] can do a better estimate on how much each thing is going to cost

[33:40] so i think we would want to do it after the 31st but definitely advertise that

[33:44] we're going to be doing it once you make that decision i think my thought is one

[33:48] of the questions the community would have is what's the cost

[33:52] right and we can't get that until the 31st out

[33:56] of the survey at school they didn't have dollars and

[34:00] he stressed very much that okay do you want a field house well a

[34:05] lot of i was a very high percentage like 70

[34:09] some percent said yes but what is it gonna cost us

[34:14] and they didn't have dollars so when they when they showed their surveys and

[34:18] all their slides you know was a lot in favor

[34:24] but and then it came down to the money money

[34:29] how much is this going to cost us you know and this this here project is the

[34:33] same thing i will say

[34:37] the tours did a lot for me

[34:42] um i definitely had some questions with our

[34:47] police space and i really think

[34:52] talking to other police officers and things uh

[34:56] i was really surprised in in what's needed

[35:01] and uh how things work today versus they did when i was on the force

[35:06] and um so my mind was changed in in a different

[35:11] direction on a lot of things with our police department

[35:17] i do have to say that i'm very proud of bridget

[35:21] [Music] she is the most conservative one in this

[35:24] whole process she by far

[35:28] is not expecting

[35:31] extra space in case and um so hands to you

[35:38] in in your help in this whole process and stuff

[35:42] um i think things are going very well i think things are coming together i get

[35:48] your frustration on this whole thing i i mean i really do

[35:55] but you got to look at it as the taxpayer side of the two that we didn't

[35:59] know anything about this i've been on these departments

[36:03] i still feel that it shouldn't be out of town it should be in our heart of town

[36:09] and that part did not change but location

[36:13] might change that whole thing where we might end up back out there if it does

[36:18] cost the same

[36:22] well so be it i mean

[36:25] at least the citizens and taxpayers of cold spring

[36:29] had their say-so and we get to put it and we definitely

[36:33] want to build something and we definitely need it

[36:39] we just feel that

[36:42] my my feel especially is that when you put up beautiful buildings and and

[36:47] things i just as soon see them in our heart of

[36:51] cold spring where we can show it off way better than in an industrial park on the

[36:56] very edge of cold spring that's our my main goal

[37:00] and um we'll see what happens it it still might

[37:03] all end up out there in a cheaper thing and we don't know that and so we

[37:08] apologize for taking the extra time

[37:13] and and um maybe stirring up a hornet's nest

[37:17] whatever you want to call it but i get it i mean that's fine yeah

[37:24] so you know it the group is really working good together don't you agree

[37:28] yeah and uh i'm glad we came together versus two

[37:32] separate because there was too many questions back and forth and everybody

[37:36] is listen to each other we respect each

[37:39] other uh we walk out we smile we talk and and

[37:43] that's the way it should be and so

[37:47] one thing one thing we did talk about was the

[37:50] concern on the one site you gave me approval to go negotiate on

[37:56] this the existing soil borings aren't really where

[38:00] any structure that they weren't doing soil borings when

[38:03] they did them for a building they were doing them for

[38:06] environmental and so one thing

[38:10] um we need to know is what's in the spot where the building

[38:14] may fit so um

[38:16] i'm i probably will get some budget some

[38:19] numbers for you and at the may 10th um

[38:24] have two bids to do some soil borings and have a better location because the

[38:29] architect wants the snowboardings where all the footings are and we're you know

[38:34] 12 15 feet along the walls to see what's there because they're that outcropping

[38:38] is a concern of granite we don't know where it is some of it was

[38:43] at four feet and some of their soil boring some was at 12. well

[38:48] the architect was telling us that if if it's at four feet with granite here and

[38:52] sand here you gotta take down the granite

[38:56] to to put it to make a building that's level and safe

[39:00] so that's going to be some issues that will also

[39:04] make that site either way more expensive or not but we will need to do the soil

[39:08] borne so at the next meeting are we going to find out the

[39:13] price of the property then too yet or i know that price oh you do yep

[39:19] okay it's 368

[39:24] something which is the price plus the assessments

[39:28] that are on the what was the number 368 and change 360 790 something like that

[39:34] that included the assessment that includes the assessment

[39:40] what's the size of that

[39:45] i think i can figure it out i'm gonna take out a lot take out about 32 000 and

[39:50] then divide it by the number the eight square feet and that'll tell you

[39:54] i want to say four and a quarter something like that per square foot

[39:59] somewhere around there so um were there other conforming

[40:04] conditions not that i know of seven

[40:08] does the granite company have any other conditions no

[40:11] not at this time but they do when they do purchase agreements so first that we

[40:15] weren't ready to talk about those because we were concerned about the soil

[40:18] boring so they gave us permission to access the property to do the soil

[40:21] boards

[40:24] and so i will have those numbers for you for the may 10th meeting

[40:28] to go do those so that we'll have them ready by

[40:31] the may 31st

[40:36] any other questions thank you

[40:39] appreciate it thank you thanks you guys

[40:47] all right number nine public works director report

[40:50] john stevie along with brian lynch

[41:01] my friend [Laughter]

[41:07] good evening mr mayor console hi um

[41:11] on my list for approvals tonight is the dog park fencing

[41:15] um

[41:18] as you can see it's it's going to be directly south of where the projected

[41:22] hockey rink is supposed to go in pioneer park um there's kind of a nice little

[41:26] spot where it's wasted space per se with some trees

[41:29] um 200 feet by 58 foot dog park fence it'd

[41:32] be a four foot high uh black decorative chain length fence

[41:38] the guy that i got the quote from uh came out and he said it's about the most

[41:42] common fence that's used for dog park so there's some different gates that go

[41:47] into it a standard four foot gate for people

[41:50] with the dogs and then they'll put two six foot gates that'll open to 12

[41:54] feet for the lawn mowers and stuff like that

[41:57] as you can see it came in at 2100 under budget

[42:00] might be the only one this year in 2022 we don't know yet but i was excited

[42:04] about that um what's the purpose of the dog park

[42:10] the dog park is for the purpose of it the purpose is for people to come there

[42:13] with their dogs and run around let them run around

[42:18] they're exercising roomed in is that what it is i guess so and for

[42:23] socialization for dogs well we were approached i mean the park board

[42:27] was approached many years ago already about this and we were

[42:30] we spent a few years trying to figure out where it would go and

[42:33] get everybody to agree on it and it was talked about in frog town and then

[42:38] nobody really liked that idea with the amount of parties that are down there

[42:41] and kids and everything else so we landed a spot by in pioneer park that

[42:45] seemed to work good um

[42:49] did you say it was under 2100 under budget yep

[42:53] believe that that sells me

[42:58] shall you read the record yeah go ahead and read the recommendation

[43:01] all right to approve the installation of a of a

[43:05] dog park fence at pioneer park from advanced fence and deck llc at a price

[43:11] of 13 919 and 41 cents and furthermore to

[43:17] be paid out of parks department capital expenditures line item

[43:22] 6413. i need a motion on that

[43:26] make a motion shannon make some motion how about a second i'll say gonna make

[43:30] seconds at any discussion on it otherwise all those in favor say aye all

[43:35] right against motion carries there you go

[43:38] all right um the other thing i had just some updates

[43:42] um brian did call the

[43:45] great planes about a logo on our tower or our standpipe

[43:49] um they quoted roughly six thousand dollars

[43:51] to do that work so it's something for you guys to think

[43:54] about we have some time i mean i don't know we would need to decide

[43:59] fairly soon on it

[44:01] um because they will be putting up the

[44:04] steel in not that long

[44:07] you know month or so yeah i mean we can we can easily bring this back to the

[44:10] next council meeting or something if we wanted some time to think about it but

[44:14] he did say too if we if it's something we're interested in he would have this

[44:18] guy look at it and then come up with a better cost

[44:23] and i mean you'd have to figure out too what you want on it if it's just the

[44:26] city logo or if you want something different on it or whatever

[44:30] i think personally you want to take advantage of a

[44:34] 80-foot tower and put something on it yeah um does it

[44:38] cost us anything to have him look at it and give us an actual bid

[44:43] with the city logo yeah i mean i i i wouldn't guess it's going to be much

[44:47] more than 500 either way if he's telling us that because yeah it is a bolted

[44:51] steel tank so so that's pretty straightforward the way it comes it's a

[44:55] vinyl almost like a sticker yeah and so it costs him a thousand dollars a panel

[45:01] to cut it out to do everything on it and each panel depending on where the bolt

[45:05] the lines are in the panel in the steel panels then he needs to do a new

[45:10] sticker for each one of those he was seeing probably something more

[45:14] taking our logo and maybe trying to make it more vertical just because the lung

[45:18] it's it's a small diameter tank and you start

[45:21] wrapping it around your mouth people don't notice it they can't see it yeah

[45:24] what is a 12 foot diameter yeah

[45:27] so we could put a baseball on it well it's

[45:30] it's a harvester it's a cylinder yeah it's not a sphere

[45:35] right yeah no yeah it's just a straight cylinder up yeah

[45:38] it's only 12 feet or 12 feet diameter you can make it a big baseball bat yeah

[45:44] that's a skinny one 12 feet

[45:48] it's really not i mean like you see the north and south

[45:51] tower are there for the storage and everything else this is more to

[45:54] regulate pressure and give the brewery some capacity if there is power outages

[45:59] and things like that but

[46:02] it's not to feed the whole town so that's why it is quite a bit smaller

[46:09] so i mean whatever we can talk about it you guys we can i can put on my report

[46:13] next meeting and i'm just thinking yeah if you shrinked

[46:16] on our logo to actually fit it so you when you wrap it you can actually see it

[46:20] on that on one side or something it's going to be so small

[46:25] and i'm not even sure the tower's 80 feet tall

[46:29] the distribution center up there is got to be close to 40 feet though i

[46:33] think it's 45. 45. i'm not sure if you'll even be able to see it anyway

[46:37] from conroe too much that's kind of what i was thinking you know i would say more

[46:40] so would face towards north point or something

[46:45] or not at all so if yeah

[46:49] so for just yeah i don't know yeah it's up to you guys

[46:55] we'll talk about saving the money i'll probably reach out to this guy and or

[46:59] brian will and and get an accurate number

[47:02] and we can bring it in and bring it up to the next meeting and see what's what

[47:05] we sounds good

[47:07] so yeah um outside of that the fishing pier is

[47:10] installed and available looks good to use yeah it turned out really well the

[47:14] installation went a lot smoother than we had planned

[47:17] good so yeah that's all i have unless you have any

[47:21] questions for me you got anything i don't thanks john thank you thank you

[47:27] go on to number 10 in city engineer report brian lynch mr mayor council good

[47:32] evening um

[47:34] start going down the list here just some project updates the 2021

[47:38] brewery improvements they've started doing cleanup work there

[47:42] there's going to be more this week we made some pipe connections and then

[47:45] in a couple of weeks we'll be behind the brewery

[47:49] tying the last pieces of pipe in but we need the bituminous plants to be up and

[47:53] running first

[47:56] then it's just going to be waiting on components for the lift stations getting

[47:59] them wired etc

[48:03] the standpipe like we were talking about the the foundation is in the pipe is

[48:07] installed right now we're just waiting on steel

[48:11] so they have the foundation is kind of poured in two parts the next piece

[48:15] actually has some of the steel cast into it

[48:18] so we're waiting for that and we've heard some time in june right now okay

[48:23] so like everything else we're they're getting delays

[48:28] um the 2022 improvements us brewery improvements just working on that design

[48:34] the soil borings are done

[48:37] last meeting there was a question about the sidewalk

[48:42] and the curb as well would have to go with

[48:45] it for the block between red river and fifth avenue

[48:50] rough cost estimate about 75 000 for that work alone

[48:55] so it'd be new curb new sidewalk taking it out

[49:00] doing everything associated with that

[49:04] trying to take into account some of the smaller quantities because we don't have

[49:07] a ton of it going on so that's a

[49:11] don't quote me on 75 000 it's a ballpark estimate

[49:15] you know if we got into it we'd have to you know

[49:18] i could estimate it a little closer but it's

[49:21] it's not a insignificant piece of the project so

[49:27] so um i think if you know we had talked

[49:31] i don't know if it would be something that could be assessed or not but then

[49:33] if you'd start doing that then you have to start looking at

[49:37] um feasibility reports other things like that in order to comply with state

[49:42] law and that would all take time

[49:46] that takes time and then yeah and you

[49:50] you would almost have to look at it as a separate project i don't know if it

[49:53] could be tied with this project or not that's something we probably have to

[49:56] talk to the attorney about and if you're doing a separate project

[50:00] you just start introducing a whole lot of other risk factors in

[50:05] timing of work and other things you have two contract potentially two

[50:09] different contractors pointing fingers at one another

[50:14] so that's maybe not the ideal situation is to do it as a separate

[50:17] project but and to do it

[50:21] afterwards not really possible

[50:25] i wouldn't recommend it because you already got new

[50:28] you know you'd have new pavement down do you really want to go in and

[50:32] kind of tear that you know you'd have to try and protect the new pavement and

[50:36] so basically there's not going to be no sidewalk

[50:39] there for 25 more years it all depends on on if

[50:45] we decide to get in and do it sooner you could um

[50:48] that's all entirely i guess the council's decision as to if we want to

[50:52] do the work i mean the work can be done under as a straight city cost

[50:59] that you open a whole new can of worms yeah and also

[51:04] for for assessment purposes as well there's two corner lots that were

[51:09] already assessed for sidewalk on the county road two project

[51:12] so those would be ineligible for assessments on this project

[51:18] so you've taken the potential number if you were to assess it the potential

[51:21] number from six down to four

[51:28] i guess if there are areas that you know if there's a couple of bad panels

[51:33] you know some bad joints those sort of things you know i think those could

[51:36] maybe be addressed as a city costa a lot cheaper

[51:42] but you you know so you have to start looking at the sidewalk all the gravel

[51:46] that goes with the sidewalk the curb gravel under the curb

[51:50] you're going to start redoing driveway approaches so it starts

[51:53] it starts adding up in a hurry especially when we have sidewalk on both

[51:57] sides one is currently a six footer the other is a seven

[52:00] which i'm sure done because there isn't a boulevard there to give it a little

[52:05] more space for snow plowing so

[52:09] it adds up in a hurry what if we just tore those sidewalks out

[52:13] and turn it into grass for the landowner you know you could do that would you it

[52:21] depends then do you want to put in new curb or you know

[52:23] you could probably pull them out and leave the curb

[52:30] what would the cost difference be brian if we directional board

[52:34] the pipe through that section of street

[52:38] instead of open cutting it and we didn't touch the top ground so that

[52:42] instead of waiting 25 years to complete a project like that it's

[52:46] maybe turned back into our closer radar of the other streets downtown

[52:52] fifth has got to be done one of these years anyway it's bad i mean it can't be

[52:56] left the way it is you're gonna d you're gonna dig the

[52:59] intersection because you have to make a 90 degree turn

[53:03] um we're already directional boring

[53:06] underneath red river yeah so you were you weren't going to have a

[53:09] lot of open cut in there in the first place because of that so that might be

[53:14] it might be an option and you just patch the locations that you need to or maybe

[53:18] another option if directional boring is quite a bit higher which we know it

[53:22] probably is going to be instead of

[53:26] replacing that whole whole street maybe we just put a patch in it

[53:30] you know maybe we just dig what's needed for that section of pipe through that

[53:33] block and we repave on top of the pipe only and

[53:37] not the entire street knowing that this could be part of our project

[53:42] in the near future here i don't know until we find a way to stop

[53:46] those trucks from coming down there it's just gonna it's not gonna last again i

[53:50] mean it's

[53:52] there's a lot of weight coming on that road

[53:58] i don't know yeah those are caught between a rock and

[54:00] a hard place here

[54:05] yeah that would be it'd be an option to look at boring the

[54:08] whole thing

[54:12] patching or patching what we need yeah even patching what we need is going

[54:16] to put that road in better shape than it is

[54:19] it can't get worse i mean that's an option it's not that

[54:23] much lineal feed it's

[54:28] probably only going to amount to it less than a three-quarter block

[54:32] because you got that you got fifth that's got to get done one of

[54:35] these years you got um and by the time you get back to drill under two you're

[54:40] you're probably halfway down the block

[54:44] do you get we got a few streets out in that

[54:47] second avenue third avenue everything around the country store general areas

[54:51] yeah first street south there's a lot of little little projects and

[54:56] as far as street projects but maybe when we did if we were to do

[55:00] third avenue maybe that would be the time to go back and do you know get a

[55:04] bigger sidewalk bent because you'd have those sidewalks there connected with

[55:08] those maybe that'd be a bigger right yeah if you if you were to

[55:13] it still would be tough to go back because you got it you're not going to

[55:16] really want to replace the curb if you put in new pavement on the whole street

[55:20] right because you'll you'll damage that edge

[55:24] but if you were to save it to go with the larger projects down the road you're

[55:28] going to get a better price on everything right just a higher quantity

[55:32] makes it more difficult too with that sidewalk being tight against the curb

[55:34] line too and no boulevard so they

[55:38] can't really replace the curb unless they hand pour it i don't know if

[55:42] they'll be able to get their machine through there with the sidewalk butted

[55:44] up to it but the sidewalk or the curb

[55:48] yeah you would they'd hand pour the curb in there yeah so the labor cost on that

[55:52] i'm sure is up um

[55:56] yeah it's a tough spot if you do it in the future there's

[56:00] options if you wanted to go to one sidewalk

[56:03] and you could push the road around a little maybe to get a boulevard it does

[56:07] open up some options if you were going to fully reconstruct it

[56:11] so we you thought we could patch it for the time being and then tie that

[56:17] complete project there in with say third avenue

[56:21] is that what you're suggesting yeah that would that would definitely be

[56:24] an option because the you know if that block is

[56:28] 400 feet i think is a standard city block and that one might be a little

[56:31] less 350 that one is yeah so

[56:35] with directional boring underneath red river that machine has to stay back so

[56:39] far anyway so not

[56:42] that entire 350 feet is not getting tore up that machine's going to sit back

[56:47] i don't know 100 feet no more yeah at least probably 200. so 200 feet so that

[56:52] technically there'd only be 150 feet of that stream being poured up

[56:55] fifth avenue where it's going to come so you'd have 150 foot patch in there

[57:00] for hopefully it's next year we approve

[57:02] those other projects but right you know i've talked about that at much

[57:06] that makes some sense to me you know then you're only tearing up 150 feet of

[57:11] new pavement um

[57:15] that might be the best or even directional boring you're not

[57:18] going that much farther anyway are you right probably not and then that's one

[57:22] of the things that now that we have the soil borings back we really have to

[57:25] start looking at those profile those boring profiles and how far back do they

[57:29] have to be and it's probably

[57:32] probably just as just as cheap directional boring it is as repaving

[57:37] that that whole top right well i mean you would if you

[57:41] repave just the over the pipe you don't need to be owned by the street yeah so

[57:46] just be a patch but originally they were going to repave

[57:50] that from kirby curb yeah so i mean you take that out

[57:55] and directional bore that it's probably not

[58:00] not much more is it and not a whole you're going to dig some

[58:04] up i think we're going to have an air release manhole in there because it'll

[58:06] probably be a high point yeah you'll dig up probably for sure the

[58:11] western hundred feet

[58:15] to put some stuff in

[58:21] but yeah you're right the the cost difference by the time you repave it may

[58:25] not be a whole lot different from just boring the entire thing

[58:31] and unless i'm missing something that sounds like a better plan

[58:35] yeah i think so i think patching that area that would be the cheapest i think

[58:39] just based off my construction knowledge yeah

[58:43] yeah and knowing that the piece that would be getting patched

[58:46] wouldn't be our expense anyway yeah and i think especially if if we really feel

[58:51] strongly that we want to do something with the sidewalks there i think it's

[58:55] probably the best option forward well then tying it in with a third street

[58:58] third avenue project would make some sense it would

[59:02] maybe make the class go down some yeah

[59:11] so now what so so now what i can uh we haven't want to

[59:15] get prices on that or [Music]

[59:20] we're in the design phase right now so all i have is a

[59:23] a line on paper that says here's where i want to put the pipe so it's it's not

[59:26] too late to be doing this no it's still this is this is the perfect time to

[59:31] look at okay and so i think the first thing i'll do is i'll look at

[59:35] how far back do we think we would end up sitting with the directional drill and

[59:39] does it yeah does it make sense okay all right

[59:43] thank you yeah let's do that all right

[59:47] absolutely um

[59:51] otherwise uh water plant just moving ahead on interior piping moving

[59:56] ahead on the roof and then shortly we'll be doing some uh digging

[1:00:00] in the in the yard there for a bunch of piping

[1:00:05] and then the industrial pre-treatment um we pushed the bid so originally we were

[1:00:10] going to bid this thursday we pushed it to next wednesday

[1:00:16] to give them bitters a little bit more time there

[1:00:18] were a couple of big wastewater projects a 30 and a 50

[1:00:22] million dollar plant that were going within 10 days of ours and both of those

[1:00:27] were ahead of ours so by giving it a little extra time it

[1:00:31] gives them a couple more days to look at it sharpen their pencils

[1:00:36] we don't rush the contractors and that didn't change any of our

[1:00:40] approval dates we're still looking to bring it to the may 10th

[1:00:43] meeting okay

[1:00:45] so we've gotten a lot of questions so

[1:00:48] there's good interest thank you

[1:00:53] so that's all that's it anybody got anything for brian thank you

[1:00:58] thank you guys thank you number 11

[1:01:02] police department report chief bloom

[1:01:08] smear council

[1:01:12] not a whole lot for me tonight um one thing is uh we budgeted for a new

[1:01:17] squad camera for the new squad that showed up um which actually just came in

[1:01:21] last week so um it's here it's getting decals on it

[1:01:26] put on it right now so i'm just looking uh the one that's the squad that's

[1:01:30] getting taken out has it corrupted that's the sro kind of the the

[1:01:33] least used squad um during the school year so

[1:01:37] the camera in that one is currently corrupted so we need to replace that to

[1:01:40] go into the new squad okay

[1:01:43] recommendation to approve the purchase of a motorola

[1:01:47] standard for re dvr squad camera at a price of

[1:01:54] five thousand seven hundred and forty dollars and furthermore to be paid

[1:01:58] for out of the police department capital expenditures line item 6413. i need a

[1:02:05] motion i'll move on mike makes a motion how about a second

[1:02:09] second france seconds at any discussion otherwise all those in favor say aye aye

[1:02:14] against motion carries there you go thank you um and then one of the other

[1:02:19] things i included the cold spring community policing agreement uh that's

[1:02:22] kind of what we've been talking about over the last several months finally

[1:02:25] have a finished document um for you guys that

[1:02:29] was included in the packet for you guys to review

[1:02:31] um and then there will be a signing celebration on may 4th at 6 30 p.m at st

[1:02:37] boniface church so um

[1:02:40] what was the time 6 30 6 30. so anybody from the community is welcome

[1:02:45] um and hopefully uh there'll be i think

[1:02:49] some refreshments and then uh cake provided at that go on here

[1:02:56] uh last thing for me is um

[1:03:00] the speed truck or did anybody have any questions about the community agreement

[1:03:04] what time was it again sorry may 4th at 6 30 pm 6 30 yes

[1:03:13] all right and that yeah st boniface church so yeah anybody from the

[1:03:16] community is welcome um hopefully we have a good group there and i don't know

[1:03:19] if they've reached out to you yet dave but i know they're gonna have ask you to

[1:03:22] make a statement at that [Laughter]

[1:03:27] so we'll work on figuring something out for you wow

[1:03:31] [Laughter] i don't speak

[1:03:36] [Laughter] um outside of that speed truck is out

[1:03:41] and about it's over in richmond right now but if anybody has any uh problem

[1:03:45] areas or any anybody watching has any place that they would like it for a

[1:03:49] period of time please let us know and um we will get that out into the

[1:03:53] community all right first street

[1:03:56] south it'll be on the list i'm sure it'll be up there

[1:04:00] how is that uh speed that um

[1:04:04] signed sign up there it's actually it's good information to have and i've heard

[1:04:10] other reports of you know you kind of that 92

[1:04:14] compliance rate is kind of what you're shooting for and actually we stay

[1:04:17] usually the a lot of months are kind of averaging a little above that 93 94

[1:04:21] compliance rate so we're right in that ballpark of where

[1:04:24] the expectation is okay i think that's pretty good yeah that's all no it it's

[1:04:28] it's cool information have we had any complaints from any residents on that

[1:04:33] street or like since it's been installed that we know of

[1:04:37] nothing drastic um like originally when the road was done

[1:04:41] um when it went from construction to nice

[1:04:45] new tar again there was a little bit but i think it was

[1:04:48] cars are going again it took a little bit to get used to and i haven't heard

[1:04:51] anything since then the lines the lines slowed people down

[1:04:55] it seems that way it just seems that everything got tighter in there

[1:05:02] so and i noticed that too is with baseball going on now even the cars on

[1:05:06] there make you slow down quite a bit

[1:05:09] [Music] all right

[1:05:12] other than that that's all i have unless you guys have questions for me they got

[1:05:15] anything mike you're gonna give us a report and you're in snow

[1:05:19] reports because winter's not over yet is it

[1:05:23] so it kind of went to a priority list and since we're probably

[1:05:28] not going to get snow anytime soon we've been really swamped on our end with in

[1:05:30] custody and different stuff so i we are working on that we will get that to you

[1:05:34] but um it kind of got dropped down to the bottom of the list for right now

[1:05:39] it's not urgent right so but no yes we are working before we get to the

[1:05:42] ordinance issue i think yeah thank you

[1:05:47] any other questions yeah i got questions

[1:05:51] i'm down here to address this i always miss what day it is i don't care if i'm

[1:05:54] interrupting but when it comes down to me being

[1:05:57] harassed for two years and eric boucher knew that that uh abby

[1:06:42] yes the first thing i have thank you mr mayor and council the first thing i have

[1:06:46] on is the um

[1:06:49] arpa reporting so as you know last fall when we first got

[1:06:53] our american rescue

[1:06:57] i don't remember what the p stands for act

[1:07:00] um

[1:07:03] the federal government gave us a total in two payments of 484 000 we

[1:07:09] got the first one already and the council at that time approved using all

[1:07:13] of arpa to pay for the difference between what the bonding money was for

[1:07:16] the treatment plant versus the inner fund loan that we have so it'll reduce

[1:07:19] the inner fund loan the arpa reporting at that time was

[1:07:23] going to be i have to fill out and say we're using

[1:07:26] it on a water project and then there was going to be very extensive reporting

[1:07:31] well they gave out to about 7 000 different jurisdictions a lot of money

[1:07:37] and a lot of them are small jurisdictions like ours and so they at

[1:07:40] the final rule they decided anyone who has less than 10 million can

[1:07:44] report that they're taking a one-time allowance the standard deduction similar

[1:07:49] to standard deduction for tax returns you don't have to itemize or anything

[1:07:53] and so i'm requesting through this resolution the authority to take that

[1:07:57] one-time standard standard i still have to tell

[1:08:00] them what we're doing with it but i don't have to do the extensive

[1:08:03] reporting that a water treatment project

[1:08:08] would and i'm sure some of those communities that are doing that got

[1:08:11] 40 and 50 million dollars in our upgrading plants they're gonna go

[1:08:14] through much more extensive reporting than our small

[1:08:17] little city and so um the league of minnesota cities

[1:08:21] did recommend that to take that election that the council

[1:08:26] direct staff to take the election and so that's why i wrote that resolution

[1:08:30] use that resolution for that request right recommendation

[1:08:34] to approve resolution 2022-12 resolution

[1:08:38] electing the standard allowance available under the revenue loss

[1:08:43] provision of american rescue plan act that's what

[1:08:48] it stands for i need a motion i'll make a motion shannon makes motion

[1:08:52] how about a second we'll say gonna mike seconds at any

[1:08:56] discussion otherwise all those in favor say aye aye

[1:09:00] against motion carries i just wanted to give you a little

[1:09:04] update you know when jess green was here at the last one and you um approved the

[1:09:08] resolution with the um

[1:09:11] setting that interest rate the things have gone

[1:09:15] kind of kablooey with interest rates um

[1:09:20] now a 19-year structure like we did the true interest cross would be at 4.247 so

[1:09:25] it's right below that 4.25 that you approved

[1:09:29] um their desk thinks that part of that

[1:09:34] number is because about a week ago in 80 million dollar taxable issuance from a

[1:09:38] texas community the the bor the um

[1:09:43] pricing desk thinks that that kind of skewed government obligation bonds for

[1:09:47] the most part they're hoping that will come down

[1:09:50] obviously the fed will be next year next week so that too may have it

[1:09:54] um and so if we get the mpca sign off which

[1:09:59] we're still waiting for the npca permit we anticipate they will give it before

[1:10:04] the bids are awarded on may 10th yeah the

[1:10:07] 29th is the end of the 60 days and we've been trying to have correspondence

[1:10:13] with them that do they anticipate any issues and so far

[1:10:17] it's been very little response they don't

[1:10:19] anticipate hopefully they can turn it around and

[1:10:23] then stage this time frame so

[1:10:26] um at this point there's some options so if mpca gets us that

[1:10:31] permit and the pricing comes back and it may be beyond the parameters you can

[1:10:35] still award the bonds just like you would award the bid

[1:10:39] or we can wait to see um and have a special meeting between

[1:10:45] the may 10th and may 24th or wait till the 24th but there's options still but i

[1:10:49] wanted to let you know that that that true interest is

[1:10:53] butting up to that level but that doesn't limit you to still

[1:10:57] award the bonds even though you made the um

[1:11:00] the 4.25 true interest rate

[1:11:03] we can still go over as long as we price an award on the same

[1:11:07] day so so it's just a little um skewed i did

[1:11:13] talk to the brewery about that and

[1:11:17] uh at this point everything's fine there is a possibility

[1:11:22] to add a year to it to get it down for you know they'd like to

[1:11:26] pay us a certain number of dollars each year and that's what we were hoping

[1:11:30] with a 19 year but with the adjustment to rates it could bump up a little

[1:11:35] higher so then we're going to see if pfa would let us add a year to the bond so

[1:11:39] that it brings it down to the the number they

[1:11:42] budget for if it doesn't happen it'll be fine but

[1:11:45] um so i've let them know too but i just wanted to bring you both all of you up

[1:11:50] to date on that all right

[1:11:53] and with that all i want to say is thank you shannon for all your

[1:11:57] support as one of my five bosses in the last

[1:12:00] four and a half years so thank you and good luck thank you

[1:12:05] does anybody have anything for bridgette i'd ask you were going to contact the

[1:12:09] landowner or something known by speedway to see if they were going to be taking

[1:12:12] care of those yep and we've been playing phone tags so i don't have an answer

[1:12:15] okay thank you

[1:12:19] all right go on to number 14 no

[1:12:24] no 13. commission updates planning commission

[1:12:27] um i guess we approved everything tonight

[1:12:30] that we were talk you talked about so

[1:12:35] did everyone give a little synopsis of ceta

[1:12:39] and we're gonna wait for the comp plan we've got the draft comp plan

[1:12:43] they promised us that on monday and we got it on monday

[1:12:46] and i've been going through the comp plan and

[1:12:49] noticing a few things that need to probably be drawn attention to but

[1:12:54] it's it's a slog 58 pages on the first

[1:13:02] and they apologize for being late they were supposed to be done

[1:13:07] in march you did promise it for monday and we got it on monday yeah but no the

[1:13:10] the whole the whole comp plan was supposed to be done yeah

[1:13:15] yeah and

[1:13:16] yeah they apologize and but they have something they said they were going to

[1:13:20] make it right issues

[1:13:22] so they are going to make that right so

[1:13:26] um eda

[1:13:28] brian ada was uh the keys saying the jesus uh

[1:13:33] we'll tell you that was covered i mean that took up the whole

[1:13:37] meeting or at last so that was that park board

[1:13:43] meets on may 9th okay and record trail uh record trail is uh we're

[1:13:51] getting ready i think they're out for bid on the project so the county does uh

[1:13:56] as the fiscal agent puts out the bid and i believe they're planning to award

[1:14:01] they're due back may 12th and then the

[1:14:05] uh

[1:14:08] county commissioners will award but the record trail board we'll need to do some

[1:14:14] um approval as well and so that's probably gonna be in

[1:14:19] mid-may or the first june meeting we might have to have a special recording

[1:14:23] meeting depending how everything falls but then construction hopefully will

[1:14:26] start june good day in june

[1:14:31] yep good i hope so

[1:14:35] that's it for that then number 14

[1:14:39] list of bills and additions recommendation to review and accept

[1:14:42] payment of the accounts payable according to the list and supplemental

[1:14:46] list presented by city staff i need a motion on that

[1:14:50] i'll make a motion to pay the bills shannon makes a motion how about a

[1:14:54] second second any discussion on the bills otherwise

[1:14:59] and all those in favor say aye aye against motion carries

[1:15:05] number 15 general questions and comments from city council

[1:15:09] i have none i have none shannon

[1:15:12] um i just want to thank and everybody um that i've worked with

[1:15:18] on the council and administrative and everybody

[1:15:22] that is a part of the city staff i appreciate all of you and the hard

[1:15:27] work you do um i

[1:15:30] am very honored to have been on the city council

[1:15:36] for so long

[1:15:40] long enough or whatever we want to call it

[1:15:44] um but i just want everyone to remember um

[1:15:48] to be a nice human and um to think of a

[1:15:54] just think of it as a small town and a big family so

[1:15:59] just go from there and everything should be good

[1:16:05] thank you yeah thanks yeah now i want to thank you too

[1:16:09] and i have nothing other than that okay number 16 motion to adjourn i'll

[1:16:14] make that brand makes makes emotions i'll second it my last time

[1:16:19] shannon seconds it all those in favor say aye all right

[1:16:23] again motion carries thank you guys very much

[1:17:50] you

04/26/22 Cold Spring City Council Meeting

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