[0:18] Good evening one everyone. It's August

[0:20] 12th. Um I'm calling the uh on the

[0:24] August 12th. Sorry, Mario throw me off.

[0:27] I can't even get the first sentence out.

[0:29] August 12th, 2026. Um I'm calling the

[0:32] meeting to order at 6:34. Um we were

[0:35] intending to start at 6 and had to wait

[0:36] for quorum. So we are starting a bit

[0:39] late. Um, first item is roll call

[0:44] >> and trusty Bis is absent. Trusty

[0:47] Boosezie.

[0:49] >> Trusty Hall

[0:53] >> and Mayor Foley.

[0:55] >> Okay. And now I will make a motion to

[0:57] enter attorney client session to discuss

[1:00] collective bargaining negotiations and

[1:02] employment history of a particular

[1:04] individual. Second.

[1:06] >> All in favor? I. So, we should be back

[1:09] between 7 and 7:15.

[1:18] » Good evening everyone. It is 7:38.

[1:22] Um, we appreciate your patience as we

[1:25] were in um an a session with our

[1:27] attorney attorney client um guidance. At

[1:31] 7:36, I made a motion to exit exe

[1:35] attorney client session and the deputy

[1:38] mayor seconded. We all voted in favor to

[1:40] exit. That is for the record.

[1:44] Um we did open the public meeting

[1:47] um before we went into executive session

[1:50] and did roll call. So now we'll make a

[1:52] motion to return to executive up to

[1:54] public session at 7:38. Second.

[1:57] >> All in favor?

[2:01] fun, right? Aren't you so glad you came?

[2:05] Okay. Um, so we have a few items of

[2:08] business before our our usual business

[2:11] before we have conversation with you.

[2:14] We'll come back to you, but very

[2:15] quickly, um, there are a couple of

[2:18] things I'd like to draw out from the

[2:19] department reports, but otherwise, I'd

[2:22] like to, um, make a motion to accept

[2:24] them as submitted. the department and

[2:27] uh committee reports.

[2:30] So sh I'll draw out those things and

[2:32] then make that motion. Um on the highway

[2:36] side paving on Kembell is happening next

[2:38] Tuesday. Um we were able to use

[2:42] across the county. So the town of Kent

[2:45] and the county trucks are going to pave

[2:47] that section on Tuesday. Hoping it

[2:50] doesn't rain. been a challenge with that

[2:53] spot because every time we get it

[2:54] prepped to pave normal hopefully take us

[2:58] time. Um I wanted to Matt, are you

[3:01] comfortable with me officer in charge?

[3:03] Are you may I read your um statement

[3:06] from your

[3:08] >> You can read it or I can read it however

[3:09] you want to do it.

[3:11] You know, sometimes things are hard and

[3:13] sometimes things are really beautiful.

[3:15] And we had a really beautiful thing

[3:17] happen in the village over the last

[3:18] couple of weeks. And um Officer Jackson

[3:20] noted it in his monthly report. And I'd

[3:23] like it the public to hear it. Every now

[3:26] and then, we're reminded that the

[3:28] greatest strength of our community isn't

[3:29] found in a budget, a program, or a

[3:31] government agency. It's found in the

[3:32] people who call this village home. I

[3:35] want to thank our residents, our

[3:36] faithful communities, our police offic,

[3:39] excuse me, our police officers, our

[3:41] county and state partners who came

[3:43] together this month to help a woman

[3:45] facing homelessness. When resources were

[3:47] limited, you stepped up with compassion.

[3:49] You didn't ask whose responsibility it

[3:51] was. You simply asked, "How can I help?"

[3:54] You offered food, clothing,

[3:55] transportation, temporary shelter, and

[3:57] encouragement. What could have been a

[3:59] story of someone falling through the

[4:00] cracks became a story of hope. No one

[4:03] person solved this problem. No single

[4:04] organization had all the answers. It was

[4:06] a true community effort. Helping one

[4:09] person won't solve homelessness. But it

[4:10] changes a life and it shows our

[4:12] character. Simply put, it truly takes a

[4:14] village. To everyone who played a role,

[4:16] whether your contribution was large or

[4:18] small, thank you. Your generosity,

[4:20] kindness, and willingness to help a

[4:21] complete stranger, reminded us all of

[4:24] what makes this village such a special

[4:26] place.

[4:28] Little Jackson.

[4:30] Um I wanted to note that the fire

[4:33] company report um since we've been

[4:36] having more in that flood season um the fire co fire company does not

[4:41] provide routine water pumpout services.

[4:44] If your basement is flooded with water,

[4:46] don't call the fire company. The the

[4:48] vehicle the apparatus is not made to

[4:50] pump dirty water out of buildings. Um,

[4:53] pumpout responses are limited to

[4:55] situations involving an immediate threat

[4:56] to life, a significant threat to

[4:58] property, property, or other extreme

[5:00] emergencies. For non-emergency water

[5:02] removal, please contact a licensed water

[5:04] mitigation company or restoration

[5:06] company.

[5:10] And those are the things I wanted to

[5:12] pull out. Anyone else had anything they

[5:14] wanted to make comment on from boards or

[5:17] committees?

[5:18] >> Reservoir level is that%

[5:22] but um it's good.

[5:32] Okay. Um

[5:35] Smart Task Force I believe has some

[5:37] items. Yeah.

[5:38] >> Yeah. I um I'll give you all just kind

[5:41] of a brief update on things of where

[5:43] we're at. Um but we'll come to like the

[5:46] preview um that you'll be hearing more

[5:49] soon. So um we saw a number of grants

[5:52] from our um NAERTA climate um community

[5:56] program. One of them is about $16,000

[5:59] that was going to be for the high street

[6:01] EV chargers. Um we now have um EV

[6:05] chargers that have been installed but

[6:07] just not um connected to power that um

[6:10] are down by the boat club. Uh those were

[6:13] um free to us. Uh so we still had

[6:17] $16,000 that we'll use and we are aiming

[6:19] to put um EV chargers for the police

[6:23] department and and the water department

[6:24] to use um at the highway garage. So we

[6:26] just need to get quotes. Um, but that's

[6:28] our that's our aim for the $16,000 at

[6:31] least. Um, so that will come to you all

[6:34] the contract modification. And then we

[6:35] have this $175,000 grant. Um, that is

[6:39] still a challenge to kind of get the

[6:41] logistics going, but ultimately it's for

[6:43] solar and the EV um the police

[6:46] department. Um, so expect to see all

[6:48] those coming

[6:50] um over the next few months. Um,

[6:52] deadlines that were far away are now

[6:53] coming closer. really do.

[6:57] Um and then just the update, a little

[7:00] bit of my update, a little bit uh kind

[7:03] of smart task force, we're really moving

[7:05] ahead with the flood grant.

[7:06] >> Yeah. Um we have really great

[7:08] consultants that are doing both

[7:10] analytical piece of looking at what are

[7:12] flood risks and what does it look like

[7:14] in the future and what are the solutions

[7:15] that we can have. And then we have

[7:16] another um great organization that will

[7:19] be doing a resident um uh webinar um and

[7:26] kind of a training and we are thinking

[7:28] of doing a survey uh through the climate

[7:30] part task force to um collect um

[7:33] information from residents about their

[7:34] experiences uh and and issues that

[7:37] they're seeing.

[7:38] >> Thank you to you and Marjorie for all of

[7:40] the hard work and Michelle getting time.

[7:42] >> Yeah. Yeah, we have some reporting that

[7:44] we're working on. Uh so yeah, so that's

[7:48] I guess that's just like a little bit of

[7:50] a lay of the land and I'd love to have

[7:52] formal pieces to all stand.

[7:57] » Anyone else have anything

[8:00] one more update is that had a really

[8:03] great meeting last week with um members

[8:08] of the best from St. ies code

[8:10] enforcement officer judge Jackson and

[8:14] some members of the chamber um to

[8:17] discuss events at Lake Mary's. So we

[8:19] want

[8:22] and raise money to support its buildings

[8:24] but we also have to make sure that

[8:25] there's required public safety and that

[8:28] we're meeting building codes etc. So it

[8:30] was a super productive session. Um the

[8:32] best is drafting um an application

[8:36] contract and they're going to run them

[8:37] past OS Jackson and the code enforcement

[8:40] office to make sure it touches on all of

[8:43] the things that need to refer to the

[8:45] village you know for this item for tents

[8:48] permits etc etc. Um and I also like

[8:51] Julian to have a look at that too comes

[8:53] in to see what areas of overlap and I

[8:56] feel confident that we can um I feel

[8:59] confident that we can address some of

[9:00] the

[9:02] pedestrian and traffic issues that have

[9:03] been happening around those events.

[9:12] Okay. So, now we're moving into board

[9:14] business,

[9:16] our

[9:18] chamber of commerce. So, if we could

[9:20] start, I'm gonna I have some some

[9:23] comments, but first just with

[9:24] introductions because I I've met you

[9:25] briefly. Yeah.

[9:26] >> But go ahead. Hi, I'm Laura Bozie

[9:30] trustee

[9:32] mayor Tweeps Woods

[9:37] trustee

[9:38] >> one of our trusties

[9:40] earlier we know

[9:42] >> Gina Larson I'm the owner with my

[9:45] husband here of Brian Monkey home

[9:49] >> your windows are really happy it's nice

[9:53] to have them in the the center of Main

[9:55] Street

[9:56] >> I enjoy the colors a We love our new

[9:58] location.

[10:00] >> Um, so the chamber recently sent a

[10:03] letter asking questions and requesting

[10:05] an update on the paid parking program.

[10:08] Um, I first want to say thank you to all

[10:10] of you who've um been communicating with

[10:13] us for your collegiality and cooperative

[10:16] tone. And I believe sorry I Kate Borhees

[10:18] Ben Vorhees is also online um

[10:22] representing the main street committee.

[10:24] So, thank you all of you for being

[10:27] collegial and being cooperative. It's so

[10:29] much more productive for everyone when

[10:30] we just talk things through and find

[10:33] answers. So, we're grateful. Um, the

[10:35] timing of your inquiries inquiries is

[10:37] really great because we've got great

[10:39] momentum following up on previous

[10:42] inquiries and suggestions. Um, and I

[10:45] just want to recognize that we can't

[10:47] address all of your concerns at once,

[10:50] but we are committed to working with you

[10:52] through in a in a reasonable manner. Um,

[10:55] I am committing to meet with you once a

[10:57] month. Um, I think we proposed September

[11:00] 10th as the

[11:03] and then we'll bring into those monthly

[11:05] meetings trustees. Andrew has particular

[11:08] strengths and data that I don't have.

[11:09] Laura has particular strengths.

[11:11] Everybody. So if there are times that it

[11:12] makes sense to have another trustee with

[11:14] us um or staff and one of the most um

[11:18] well and then we bring we'll carry the

[11:20] recommendations that come out of those

[11:22] sessions to the full board for

[11:24] discussion. Um so the goals for tonight

[11:27] um this isn't a public hearing. This is

[11:29] a conversation with the main street

[11:31] committee. Um the board will decide if

[11:33] we take comments. Um and I'd like us to

[11:36] focus on the content of the letter. Um

[11:38] there were seven topic areas. Um, some

[11:41] of them are already working on and I'm

[11:43] going to update you on those areas. Some

[11:46] are going to need more consideration and

[11:48] discussion before implementations.

[11:50] Um, and just it's important to recognize

[11:52] that this program sort of goes handin

[11:54] glove with the residential parking

[11:55] program on our side street. So just

[11:58] being cognitive that when we tweak one

[12:00] area, it has impacts on that program

[12:02] too. So we we need to be thinking of how

[12:04] they all fit together.

[12:06] Um, and then I want to ask for some some

[12:09] explanation of some of your concerns and

[12:11] letter. There are things that we don't

[12:12] understand will be helpful to have

[12:13] feedback on so we know how to how to

[12:14] address the questions going forward. Um,

[12:17] so I hope that we'll we'll set action

[12:21] items for moving forward. Um, I also

[12:24] want to set the expectation that our

[12:26] primary constituency is our residents.

[12:28] Um, Main Street is one element of the

[12:31] village and one element that has needs.

[12:34] There are lots of elements that had have

[12:35] needs. It is a very important element.

[12:38] Um it's critical to our thriving economy

[12:41] and our community. Um we're also village

[12:45] fiduciaries. The paid parking brings in

[12:48] about 5% of our general fund income,

[12:50] which seems small, but it has impacts

[12:53] broadly. Um that's our focus and that's

[12:56] what's expected of us from residents and

[12:57] taxpayers. And ultimately any code

[13:00] changes, anything we discuss that

[13:03] requires code changes and some things

[13:05] will require tweaking the vehicle and

[13:06] traffic um chapter that will all have to

[13:10] go to public hearing. Um so there'll be

[13:12] a chance for everyone to be engaged in

[13:14] that in those at that time. So again um

[13:18] we're not going to take any final

[13:19] decisions tonight or solve all the

[13:21] issues, but we're going to talk. Um so

[13:25] first um what's in progress? Um over the

[13:30] summer we had um an intern who did a a

[13:35] photographic um

[13:38] uh inventory catalog of all of the signs

[13:42] in the lower village, all the signs on

[13:44] Main Street. Um one of the things that

[13:46] we feel pretty strongly about is Main

[13:48] Street is cluttered and it's just visual

[13:50] cacophony and it's hard to see the

[13:52] things you need to.

[13:54] She made recommendations for removal

[13:56] needs. we need to come back as a board

[13:58] and and approve the removal of some of

[14:00] those signs. Some of the signs don't

[14:01] lead to anything anymore. So, getting a

[14:03] cleaner slate to work from. So, that is

[14:06] in process and we'll be talking about

[14:07] that probably in September. This is our

[14:10] only meeting this month. Um,

[14:13] we've been working on identifying and

[14:15] establishing

[14:16] specific residential parking area in the

[14:18] lower village. that residential parking

[14:20] area has existed since 2015, but there

[14:23] was never it was never identified which

[14:25] places are for residents only. So, we've

[14:28] been having conversations with residents

[14:29] and think we have narrowed down what

[14:31] those streets should be. The board needs

[14:33] to have that conversation. That's a code

[14:35] change. Um

[14:38] the way finding signs are in and do you

[14:40] want to we have an example to show you?

[14:44] Someone wants to

[14:45] >> maybe

[14:48] they're all wrapped up together,

[14:51] >> but

[14:55] keeper so as we go through the meeting,

[14:57] you can look at them.

[14:59] >> Alex said don't

[15:03] just maybe just show it. I'm I'm

[15:05] speaking on behalf of my designer did

[15:07] not make these. Um but um he has a full

[15:12] slack explained all

[15:17] » at home.

[15:19] >> They're primarily designed for

[15:23] >> um walkers and then there are some that

[15:25] are car direction.

[15:26] >> I think the best thing is

[15:29] that's going to be a long way off in the

[15:30] background.

[15:30] >> It's all right. I think you can get

[15:32] these. There are there are two that are

[15:34] already that you can see

[15:35] >> and the whole the whole the whole plan

[15:37] is is online so you can go back and get

[15:40] it but they're here. Um we have we've

[15:43] had hit a bit of a bump getting bids for

[15:45] we want we want these to be really high

[15:48] quality and for that that visual

[15:50] identity to carry through the village.

[15:52] Um, so we're we're stacking um sign

[15:56] posts that are high quality and heavy

[15:59] and it's taking us a little time to do

[16:00] it, but there there it is in process and

[16:02] they're coming and it will continue. We

[16:04] got permission from Metro North um start

[16:06] in the train station and proceed

[16:08] throughout the village and be at the

[16:10] village

[16:11] >> and yes

[16:17] » exactly

[16:19] >> um

[16:22] >> and then the last update to give you is

[16:24] um on Park Mobile. So when the signs

[16:29] that we have on Main Street are the

[16:30] signs that we got for free when we first

[16:32] had a contract with Parkable. They're

[16:34] not ideal. It's what we could afford at

[16:36] the time when when the parking

[16:40] best effort to get it off the ground. We

[16:43] knew it would need to be modified and

[16:44] tweaked and we're in a good place

[16:47] because Park Mobile Park mobile is

[16:49] rebranding. Um, I've had an initial

[16:52] conversation with Park Mobile about um

[16:56] making our signs

[16:58] uh reducing the number of them, making

[17:00] them larger, making them cleaner um and

[17:03] easier to read and easier to use. So, I

[17:05] was hoping that for today I'd have some

[17:08] of the mockups they've done, but I

[17:09] haven't yet. I expect them soon. So,

[17:11] we're working on lots of the things that

[17:14] um chamber and individual merchants and

[17:17] others have asked us to do. And it seems

[17:20] like it might seem from your perspective

[17:22] that we're not that we're not doing

[17:23] those things, but it's only because it's

[17:24] not visible on a on a daily basis for

[17:27] you all. Those things are moving

[17:28] forward.

[17:30] So, um

[17:34] that's where we are. Um, I I have some

[17:38] thoughts about

[17:40] what can be taken up in the short term

[17:42] and what what need to be longer term

[17:44] considerations, but given where we are

[17:46] right now, we'd love to hear from you.

[17:48] >> Yeah. Um, you know, we just want to say

[17:51] thank you and we appreciate the open

[17:53] dialogue here. We understand, you know,

[17:56] the program is only two plus years new

[17:59] or so and so there's absolutely going to

[18:03] be an evolution in everything. So, we

[18:05] just wanted to kind of uh restate the

[18:08] things that the chamber is asking for

[18:10] right now. Um, which is some of the

[18:13] things that you've already addressed,

[18:16] which is improving the parking signage.

[18:18] I think we know that there are kind of

[18:20] multiple signs going on. It gets

[18:22] confusing for visitors to see what days

[18:26] the parking is. And we hear that too as

[18:28] like store owners too, them coming into

[18:30] the shops like, "Did I have to pay? How

[18:32] do I pay? Oh, you don't have to pay

[18:34] today. You know,

[18:35] >> and we experienced that at Village Hall,

[18:36] too. We have the maps in the front door

[18:37] and we, you know, we'll often open the

[18:39] door and say, "You don't have to pay

[18:40] today." So,

[18:42] >> um, and then second is reducing the

[18:44] parking fine. Um, right now the $75, we

[18:48] took a survey and we have some paperwork

[18:51] if you'd like us to share that with you.

[18:53] I know we submitted it via email. Um,

[18:56] but it just seems very out of line for

[18:58] other municipalities in the area. So,

[19:02] they're typically around $30, $40. $75

[19:05] seems really excessive. Um, so we're

[19:09] asking for that to be reduced and maybe

[19:11] even consider having an incentive to

[19:14] reduce the ticket if it's paid within 24

[19:17] hours. We've seen um other towns like

[19:19] Greenwich, Connecticut do that. It

[19:21] reduces the paperwork for you having to

[19:23] follow up if they have a quick easy way

[19:25] to pay for that.

[19:27] Um, one of the third things is just

[19:29] enforcing the five-hour time spots. Um,

[19:33] we know that

[19:35] residents kind of taking up some of

[19:37] those spots. Um, or people just kind of

[19:40] like squatting there. Um, we're asking

[19:43] that we more actively ticket those

[19:47] areas. Um, and perhaps we can ask

[19:49] villagers to utilize like driveways and

[19:52] residential spots to leave those free

[19:54] for people visiting the town. Um, there

[19:58] are some 15minute spots on Main Street,

[20:01] but we're asking if more could be added

[20:04] um for quick pickups and just drop off.

[20:06] Um, that's for both merchant and

[20:10] villager um utilization.

[20:13] Um, right now we also have a 4hour time

[20:17] cap. We're asking for the to just remove

[20:20] the time limit, which just doesn't seem

[20:22] enough um for some of the visitors to

[20:24] like come in, wait for a table for a

[20:27] restaurant, to go shopping, to go enjoy

[20:29] the waterfront for a while, have like

[20:32] ice cream at mumoos and everything. So,

[20:35] um I think that the same per hour meter

[20:38] revenue is less hassle for people to

[20:40] have to like move their car to a

[20:42] different spot. Um I know you might have

[20:44] heard different things in the past.

[20:47] Yeah, that was one of the questions I

[20:48] think Andrew and I have talked about and

[20:50] perhaps you two have had to. So, this

[20:53] the process of of getting to paid

[20:56] parking is multi-year.

[20:57] >> Yeah.

[20:58] >> Um Emily [laughter] has seen all of it.

[21:02] the pre-COVID initiative that that

[21:04] finally got actually it's been talked

[21:06] about for decades and it's finally been

[21:08] [laughter] put put in place. Um

[21:11] we have had a range of feedback from

[21:14] different kinds of merchants, some being

[21:16] food merchants, some being, you know,

[21:18] places where folks want to go in and try

[21:20] clothes on. We we have really mixed

[21:23] feedback about about that. um and the

[21:26] idea that a spot is um

[21:31] it's it's it's a it's an item to be

[21:34] consumed, right? It's a it's a

[21:38] for some stores it makes sense to have

[21:40] turnover. For other stores, it's

[21:42] frustrating to have that turnover. And

[21:44] we I feel like we have talked about this

[21:46] back and forth. We're certainly open to

[21:48] conversation, but it would be really

[21:49] helpful to get a better sense of

[21:54] where people are on that and what when

[21:56] it is helpful and when it isn't. We It

[21:58] is not a three-hour limit, it's a 4hour

[22:00] limit. Um, and that was reached for a

[22:04] number of reasons. One was turnover at

[22:06] tables, but also uh discouraging people

[22:10] from parking for the day and then not

[22:13] having anybody else able to park on me.

[22:17] I think we'd like to understand better

[22:19] that fair.

[22:21] >> Yeah.

[22:22] And I mean

[22:24] the the signitories on the letter

[22:28] represent a variety of different

[22:29] businesses on Main Street from sit down

[22:31] restaurants to kind of quick shops to

[22:34] longer, you know, clothing stores. And

[22:36] so I mean I could understand if people

[22:39] signed it because they they agreed with

[22:41] you overall but maybe they had like you

[22:44] know but but if but if you know if this

[22:47] really does represent what everybody

[22:49] felt like then

[22:50] >> do you feel like it represents a good

[22:52] it's a good swath of

[22:53] >> if I may also say that evolution that

[22:56] we're all talking about um has changed

[22:59] for a lot of people um and that it's

[23:02] something that isn't working for maybe

[23:04] people who thought it was working Yeah.

[23:06] >> Before. So, I think there is a a deep

[23:08] consensus now that having the limit is

[23:11] not beneficial.

[23:12] >> I think Kate might want to chime in too.

[23:14] Um I don't know if you want to unmute

[23:16] her, but yeah, I think that's exactly it

[23:18] is that beyond that people might have

[23:21] thought four hours was enough, but it

[23:23] really isn't.

[23:24] >> Well, that was part of again it was part

[23:26] of the experimentation. This is our best

[23:27] guess. Let's see how it goes. And if the

[23:30] feedback from Main Street is it's not

[23:32] working,

[23:33] >> one thing I know is that

[23:36] >> Main Street is is always full on the

[23:39] weekends. I mean, obviously January,

[23:40] it's something different, but yeah,

[23:42] >> even now in the spring and summer, it

[23:44] has been full all day, all day long. Um,

[23:47] and so that's a good thing.

[23:50] >> Kate, did you have anything you wanted

[23:51] to add on that?

[23:52] >> I think you guys are nailing it. It's a

[23:54] work in progress. Uh, we're feeling like

[23:56] three hours isn't enough. People are

[23:58] scrambling to get back to their cars and

[24:00] they would have

[24:00] >> four hours.

[24:01] >> Never been three.

[24:02] It's four.

[24:03] >> Sorry. I Yeah, four. Um, it might say

[24:06] three on the website. We should check.

[24:08] >> Early iterations early iterations were

[24:12] three with the opportunity to add a

[24:14] four. And that that may be what you're

[24:16] thinking of, but the signage is here

[24:18] comes Kada too. The signage is all four

[24:21] or should be all four.

[24:22] >> Um, yeah. Yeah. So, it just seems like

[24:24] some folks are are getting stuck

[24:26] scrambling to get to their car and

[24:27] they're not done shopping and enjoying

[24:29] the village. And the consensus is that

[24:31] if if they're here and they're enjoying

[24:33] the village and they're shopping and

[24:35] participating, then maybe we should just

[24:36] let them stay. Um so looking further into that would be awesome.

[24:44] >> I mean, from our perspective, it's the

[24:46] >> someone's pay park. It's revenue

[24:48] regardless of of who it is parking in

[24:50] the spot.

[24:52] So yeah, that's

[24:53] >> carry on. Sorry to interrupt.

[24:55] >> No. Um, our last point was something

[24:57] you've already brought up is just that

[24:58] open communication and being able to

[25:00] meet with you monthly. You mentioned we

[25:02] already have a date on the calendar and

[25:04] everything.

[25:06] We can really kind of iron out these

[25:08] issues and come to, you know, a better

[25:12] plan right now.

[25:14] >> And Kate, did we are we solid on

[25:16] September 10?

[25:18] >> Um, I'm checking with Kada, but that

[25:20] works for me. Um and I think having

[25:22] these monthly meetings will yeah will be

[25:24] super productive um a really good

[25:25] opportunity for us to share what we know

[25:27] and um try to improve things together.

[25:31] >> Well maybe then um shifting and I I do

[25:35] have want to give an opportunity for all

[25:36] of you to ask questions too but laying

[25:38] out parameters. Um it it seems like from

[25:41] your letter there are a couple of things

[25:42] that you can start we can start talking

[25:44] about right away in September. Um and one is getting a sense of of

[25:50] reporting and and data and what's

[25:52] helpful. Um

[25:55] we see us as the front, but we're not

[25:56] the people who really make the village

[25:57] work. Yeah. And I think sitting down

[26:00] with the court clerk and the accountant

[26:03] and the clerk to to figure out what it

[26:06] is exactly you're looking for and how

[26:07] closely we can get to providing it.

[26:09] There's been a lot of evolution from the

[26:11] court since this program began. we

[26:13] having two new justices and a new court

[26:16] clerk and she has been dragging the

[26:19] institution um into current time and

[26:21] sort of updating technology etc. So we

[26:24] may have capabilities for reporting now

[26:26] that we didn't have before. I don't know

[26:28] that's something we need to talk to

[26:29] Kelly about. Um so I would say that's one of the ones we can start

[26:33] addressing right away. Officer in charge

[26:35] Jackson um will be the the the most

[26:38] valuable person to you in terms of

[26:39] enforcement. Um, so he is here on

[26:43] Fridays, so maybe we can schedule a a

[26:46] Friday session or And then there's the

[26:49] longer term considerations that have code implications. You've asked

[26:53] about staff parking

[26:55] um the underlying state enabling

[26:58] legislation

[27:00] allows for the distribution of permit to

[27:02] people who live on the designated

[27:04] street. Um and we have not yet found a

[27:07] way that that is work can can be worked

[27:11] around. Um we have identified several

[27:13] areas where parking is usually an option

[27:17] for um workers. The

[27:21] sorry uh

[27:24] parking yeah winter parking yeah

[27:26] >> the boulevard um metro north and then of

[27:29] course everything above the lights is

[27:31] open parking. So, we don't have we don't

[27:34] have a lack of parking in Cold Spring.

[27:37] What we have a lack of is parking on

[27:39] Main Street. It's finite and we can't

[27:41] expand the number of spaces. If I could

[27:43] chime in to to that

[27:46] I because I if I could chime in. I think

[27:49] our the original draft of our letter um

[27:52] asked for staff parking and then we

[27:56] worked really hard and talked to a lot

[27:57] of merchants to truly understand why

[28:00] like what it's being used for. And it

[28:03] seems like what a lot of merchants

[28:06] really are struggling with is getting

[28:08] packages in and out of their shops. I

[28:11] wonder if that was the case.

[28:12] >> Yeah, it's I think that's the hardest

[28:14] thing. Like if you have a flower

[28:15] delivery or wine delivery or at times,

[28:18] you know, one of your best customers is

[28:19] coming in from Garrison, but they work

[28:21] in the city during the week and it's a

[28:22] Friday and shoot, they just can't get

[28:25] that present that they need to get from

[28:26] the general shop. And so a solution that

[28:28] we've found, well, TBD, but that we'd

[28:32] really like to look into is adding a

[28:34] second 15inut parking spot to every

[28:37] block. What's happening is a lot of

[28:39] those 15-minute spots are getting taken

[28:41] over by larger delivery trucks or just

[28:43] are being utilized. And so there's been

[28:46] so many times, me included, I was, you

[28:49] know, running to get pizza for soccer to

[28:51] bring back to Philipstown Park and

[28:53] realized I couldn't find any 15-inute

[28:54] spot and I need

[28:56] >> I needed to get back and I I luckily I

[28:59] live in the village. So I realized,

[29:00] okay, I can actually just go and park in

[29:02] my driveway on Fair Street. I am so

[29:05] blessed. and then I can sprint and get

[29:06] my pizza and then get out of here. But

[29:08] that's that's an anomaly, right? We

[29:10] can't assume that everyone has that

[29:11] luxury. And so we're really hopeful that

[29:14] these added 15 minute spots would help.

[29:17] I think right now our shop Cold Spring

[29:19] Ceramics is um towards St. Mary's right

[29:22] up towards 90. And there seem to be

[29:24] remaining spots most often available

[29:28] paid metered spots there. And so

[29:31] hopefully removing some of the spots

[29:33] further south would still allow for

[29:35] people to park a little bit fur further

[29:37] north and still pay um and it wouldn't

[29:39] be a detriment. I understand we'd have

[29:41] to restripe and we'd have to do new

[29:42] signage etc. Hopefully the signage can

[29:44] go hand in hand with the signage work

[29:45] you're doing and restriping maybe can

[29:48] fold into the next round of paving that

[29:50] would need to happen anyway. And so in

[29:52] an ideal world it all comes together.

[29:55] So, a couple of things. Um, it's also a

[29:58] code change. Um, and

[30:02] it's a reduction in the number of

[30:04] spaces. There's the there's the

[30:07] scenario, I agree with you, it's often

[30:09] that Upper Main Street is open, but

[30:11] there are the scenarios when we're at

[30:13] capacity, right? We're not at October

[30:14] right now. Um, in terms of deliveries,

[30:18] the officer in charge has had and his

[30:21] officers have had a number of

[30:22] conversations with um, merchants who say

[30:29] dropped off. They know they've got a

[30:31] delivery coming. They need to get stuff

[30:32] out of their own cars into shop. Let us

[30:34] know. Call Villa Hall. Call the police

[30:37] department and let us know and we'll

[30:39] help you. We'll put out cones for you or

[30:41] help traffic get around you as you're

[30:42] unloading. um that that is not ever a

[30:46] problem unless they're on obviously on a

[30:48] call. The officers are very willing to

[30:50] help with that. So that should be a

[30:51] problem that comes that's off the table

[30:53] and I don't know if it's that people

[30:55] don't realize that they can call or if

[30:57] they're nervous to call but that's

[30:59] something that we're open to doing to

[31:01] keep the traffic flowing. Is that

[31:02] correct?

[31:03] >> Yeah, we've done it before.

[31:05] >> I love that idea. But 10 times a day, I

[31:07] mean that would be such a distraction,

[31:09] right? if 10 different shops have to

[31:11] quickly run in, you know, a case of wine

[31:13] or grab some flowers or quickly drop off

[31:16] some ceramics or I don't I don't know

[31:19] that you

[31:19] >> want to solve all the problems and no

[31:21] answer is going to solve

[31:23] >> all the problems, but that's an option

[31:24] available to you. Did you have something

[31:25] you wanted to add there?

[31:26] >> I was just going to say half of what

[31:28] you're saying, Kate, is sort of dropping

[31:30] off

[31:31] >> and it says our internet is

[31:34] >> Yeah, it's it's quick. It's it's

[31:36] continuous and quick under 15 minute

[31:39] deliveries,

[31:41] um, pickups, customers coming in to

[31:44] purchase something that they've they've,

[31:46] you know, they know Main Street so well.

[31:47] They live in the town of Philipstown to to collect, right? They're not the tourist who's sort of window

[31:54] shopping and shopping, although they

[31:56] like to do that, too. So, it's just

[31:57] >> they can pay for parking coming in from

[31:59] Garrison,

[32:00] >> right? But when it's a quickif 15

[32:02] minutes, I think, and there's not

[32:04] parking close to their the shop, it's it

[32:06] gets a little bit more complicated. And

[32:08] so, it's providing for people who

[32:10] currently are in Phillipstown and feel

[32:12] like outsiders on their own main street

[32:14] um to to enable those transactions to

[32:17] happen, which definitely help merchants,

[32:19] and then to also just help merchants

[32:21] have access

[32:22] to their, you know, the their storefront

[32:25] when they need some deliveries. Bigger

[32:26] deliveries. I love Gina even mentioned

[32:28] when she was bringing in all her

[32:29] furniture, you all put cones out for her

[32:31] and she was able to easily access um her

[32:34] store to get set up and that's awesome

[32:36] and like we love love love that you can

[32:38] do that. I just don't want to burden the

[32:39] police department with 10 calls a day.

[32:43] May I um Jackson is it do we know which

[32:48] tickets

[32:50] happen for someone overstaying a

[32:52] 15minute I guess I'm wondering how much

[32:54] the 15minute parking spaces get um

[32:57] abused and it does feel like I mean I

[33:00] know that we have number of roving you

[33:03] know parking enforcement but like they

[33:04] have to be in a lot of places they're

[33:07] not they're I'm sure that they're not

[33:09] tracking all of the 15 minute all of the

[33:11] time because then

[33:12] So

[33:15] >> yeah, I guess I'm I'm curious.

[33:16] >> How do you check 15 minutes?

[33:18] >> Yeah, like like how well how how well

[33:20] people are following the

[33:24] >> for every 15 minutes. So if you see a

[33:26] car parked out there now, you're not

[33:28] you're going to notice it in 15 minutes

[33:29] whether it's there or not.

[33:30] >> Yeah. But you have to be back there.

[33:32] >> You don't know if it's already been

[33:33] there for 15 minutes.

[33:34] >> Well, I mean they could like

[33:35] >> or if it's been there for a half hour.

[33:37] >> No, you can't actually

[33:40] that is state law.

[33:43] another state.

[33:43] >> If you observe the car there right now,

[33:46] you have 15 minutes from when you

[33:47] observe that car to go back.

[33:49] >> No, I I understand. I guess

[33:51] >> have already been there for 15 minutes

[33:52] already.

[33:53] >> No, I guess that's what I'm saying is

[33:55] that it requires continual

[33:58] >> tracking and so I was curious how much

[34:02] >> how much we're taking there or how much

[34:04] we have to sense or maybe you all have

[34:06] the sense because you know your eyes are

[34:07] like looking out on main street all the

[34:08] time. do notice that people are just

[34:10] like, well, there's no

[34:11] >> 15 minutes on our side of the street.

[34:13] So, it's a different it's the it's the

[34:16] opposite side of the street. So, it

[34:17] makes it that problem compounds

[34:20] >> with small deliveries because there's

[34:22] nothing um I can't speak for everybody.

[34:25] I know for me it's police parking, two

[34:28] spots maybe, and then all yellow

[34:31] striping. So, I have several tickets

[34:35] >> unloading with things in my hands. I've

[34:38] just said put the ticket on top of the

[34:40] bot

[34:41] >> and that has definitely happened. So I

[34:43] mean it's a problem you know we'll

[34:45] there's lots of different ways I think

[34:47] that um we can get through this

[34:51] evolution because restriping and all of

[34:53] that work we know that that's sort of

[34:55] down the line. Um, one thing that I

[34:58] found, um, was that there are some of

[35:02] the metered systems that instead of, um,

[35:06] you know, if they don't have space for a

[35:09] merchant parking lot, which some

[35:10] municipalities do, um, they can load

[35:14] from the backends, and I know that we

[35:16] can do it through our system because I I

[35:18] checked, they can load credits for

[35:20] people. So, you could like put in a code

[35:23] and still just be in a normal parking

[35:25] spot. And you know, if each person is

[35:29] each business or something like that was

[35:31] allotted a certain amount for

[35:33] themselves, then they could park in an

[35:35] actual spot and then hopefully quickly

[35:39] unload rather than, you know,

[35:42] throw them in, right? And then the same

[35:44] problem would happen like if you wanted

[35:45] to put out poems and people were parked

[35:47] there and they like fill there. I mean,

[35:49] if all of these problems have more

[35:50] problems, right? So, I don't know. there

[35:53] might be some piecing together as this

[35:57] evolves that we can you know think of in

[36:00] certain ways especially during certain

[36:02] times of year right

[36:03] >> um and we know our busy season is May to

[36:06] October

[36:08] so

[36:10] >> definitely expanding

[36:11] >> yeah and it's definitely and it is

[36:12] expanding for sure like you know during the Christmas season um fe

[36:17] February March I it like I mean that's I

[36:21] see it fall off

[36:22] >> chaos season is September, October,

[36:25] November, but the the visitation is

[36:28] expanding through the year. Did you were

[36:30] you you sounded like you were hopping

[36:31] in?

[36:31] >> Uh no, I'm freezing. Oh, sorry. That was

[36:35] me just like my

[36:37] >> scattering. Thank you. Um what I was uh

[36:41] thinking about was the

[36:44] Have you identified spots 15 minute

[36:48] spots or proposed 15 minute spots? I

[36:51] don't think we've gotten to that level.

[36:54] Uh Kate, I don't know if you have

[36:56] anything.

[36:58] >> I I didn't. We're happy to. I think I

[37:00] provided you all with a diagram to help

[37:02] the high street conversation. So, if

[37:05] that format is useful, we can follow

[37:07] that format. I I was just curious in

[37:10] your since it's one of your

[37:13] asks if the if you had identified spots

[37:17] or if there were

[37:20] any I guess what I'm trying to get at is

[37:24] you know the one of the things about the

[37:26] parking for everyone is that you know

[37:29] when you want to park you want to park

[37:31] right in front of where you're going

[37:32] right and so that's often pretty

[37:35] difficult on Main Street or even on the

[37:38] side streets where I live where I want

[37:41] to park in front of my house and

[37:43] sometimes I'm not able and I have a

[37:45] permit, right? So

[37:48] I there has to be some sort of we have

[37:51] to be realistic about that. Um at the

[37:54] same time I do think that you know

[37:57] wanting to hop in and get your bottle of

[37:59] wine or your pizza, whatever, like it

[38:02] would be more convenient to be able to

[38:04] just park and be able to do that. I

[38:05] totally agree. I just wonder like we all

[38:08] we know we're working with a finite

[38:10] amount of spaces. So if there's

[38:13] something that's been identified that we

[38:14] don't see that would be helpful.

[38:16] Otherwise we're all looking as far as I

[38:18] know the same Main Street.

[38:21] >> Absolutely. Yeah, we can get you a

[38:23] diagram. I think we're asking for two. I

[38:25] know we're asking for two per block and

[38:27] we're assuming the second spot is

[38:29] opposite the first. So on either side of

[38:31] each block and the specifics of that

[38:33] location, I think we can be

[38:34] differential. If shop owners can get

[38:36] onto the side of their block on their

[38:38] block, it makes it much easier to load

[38:40] and unload our own packages and probably

[38:43] for our clients as well. But I can Yeah,

[38:45] I'm happy to do a draft diagram for your

[38:47] review

[38:48] >> because we also have to obviously

[38:50] consider

[38:52] revenue. Well, revenue, but also

[38:55] pedestrian movement.

[38:59] A lot of cutouts are weird because

[39:01] streets are weird. They're not the

[39:02] normal size. I mean, we just have a lot

[39:04] of kind of

[39:07] >> a lot of variables happening

[39:09] simultaneously. It's not just like, you

[39:11] know, nicely

[39:14] >> carb. It's not a suburb.

[39:16] >> And tell give you a history of how the

[39:18] 15minute spots landed where they did.

[39:20] This may help you and for how we were

[39:22] thinking about it. And and I want to

[39:24] make clear that all of this we had

[39:26] multiple public hearings. We had

[39:29] multiple, you know, public meetings and public hearings. Um some of these

[39:34] things you're not going to know until

[39:35] the program gets going, but there was

[39:37] extensive conversation about this at the

[39:39] time. The 15minute spots we purposely

[39:42] put

[39:44] near crosswalks to expand the

[39:47] sightelines for cars to see walkers and

[39:49] walkers to see cars. Um, we also

[39:54] in in putting it next to that there's so

[39:57] there's the crosswalk, then there's a

[39:59] state mandated 20 ft on either side of

[40:03] the sidewalk, then a 15-minute spot that

[40:06] also conveniently is about the size of a

[40:08] truck because truck deliveries are it's you're thinking about getting the

[40:15] stuff out of the truck. We're thinking

[40:17] about what happens when when the truck

[40:19] is parked and traffic needs to be

[40:20] moving. So there, you know, there there

[40:22] are multiple sides to this. And it did

[40:24] create long the 15-inute spots did

[40:27] create long locations where trucks can

[40:30] pull in and out more easily. Is it

[40:32] perfect? No. But it's provided more

[40:34] options. Um, trucks are always going to

[40:38] be a problem because we live in an age

[40:40] where everything is delivered. The

[40:41] Amazon is, you know, it's not just the Asendico trucks, it's the Amazon

[40:45] trucks, right? And that's all through

[40:47] the village. And we are a village that

[40:50] was not built in anticipation of the

[40:53] kind of commerce and lifestyle that we

[40:56] live now. So, it's we it's challenge to

[40:59] make

[41:01] the reality on the ground that

[41:03] everyone's wants and need. So, I'll say

[41:06] I'm I'm open to the conversation.

[41:09] I don't know that I don't know that we

[41:10] can do it, but I'm I'm open to you

[41:12] proposing things certainly.

[41:15] >> Can I ask a question on a different

[41:17] topic or do we want to keep

[41:20] >> I think we talked about that point.

[41:24] Okay,

[41:24] >> exactly. Um

[41:26] >> I'm curious on the improved signage

[41:28] since you hear a lot from visitors. Is

[41:31] it do you hear about both Main Street

[41:33] and side streets or particularly one or

[41:37] the other? We'll make a distinction.

[41:41] >> I would say it's it's everything. I

[41:42] mean, people don't know how to get where

[41:45] they're going.

[41:47] Um,

[41:49] >> the way Yeah. Yeah. And so I'll often

[41:52] like go out and walk out on the street

[41:55] and say bathrooms down there,

[41:58] mountains over there, boundaries over

[42:00] there. Like I'll say just follow this

[42:02] road around and take a

[42:04] >> like

[42:05] I I see but this seems weird. Or they'll

[42:08] start to walk down the residential road

[42:10] to go to Foundry and they're like, I

[42:12] came back because I thought that wasn't

[42:13] right.

[42:14] >> Yeah, it's right. Just keep going that

[42:16] way. Um yeah, parking.

[42:19] >> Sorry, I I should have made that.

[42:20] >> No, are you asking if people ask about

[42:22] parking?

[42:23] >> When people say that the parking signs

[42:25] are not clear about whether they should

[42:28] be paying for it on Main Street, are

[42:30] they also saying are you hearing the

[42:32] same thing about the residential

[42:35] restrictions on the weekends or is it

[42:37] more you're hearing about Main Street

[42:39] issues?

[42:41] >> I would say both. I don't know what it

[42:43] is on your block. It could be different.

[42:44] Yeah,

[42:46] >> I think my personal experience has been

[42:49] mostly the main street that they're

[42:51] asking about.

[42:52] >> That's one of the things we

[42:54] >> I'm on a corner.

[42:56] >> Yeah, I'm on a corner. It's a little

[42:57] different. Yeah.

[42:58] >> Yeah. True.

[42:59] >> That's one of the things that we think

[43:00] about is that, you know, we have

[43:02] parking, residential parking on the

[43:04] ends. Some folks have given feedback

[43:07] that it would be helpful to have more

[43:10] residential parking signs in the middle.

[43:12] Some people hate that idea. We're not

[43:14] going to make everybody happy. Um, but

[43:16] making it clear that the whole length of

[43:18] Church Street is residential parking.

[43:21] >> Yeah, I can I I have very strong

[43:25] feelings on this particular topic

[43:27] because it seems it is curious. Um,

[43:31] people

[43:35] I mean I I watch people look at a sign

[43:37] and park anyway.

[43:39] >> Yeah. Um and for that I say enjoy your

[43:42] ticket. Um

[43:46] I have also seen people kind of wonder

[43:48] well

[43:51] >> the arrows sort of facing like sort of

[43:53] awkwardly so does this count as like not

[43:56] kind of clear

[43:57] >> if that includes that. So I mean I think

[44:00] there is room definitely room for us to work on that. it it's just you know

[44:06] figuring out

[44:08] how to make it so that it's more clear

[44:11] but at the end of the day I do think

[44:13] that there are a fair amount of people

[44:15] who just decide

[44:18] well you know I'll take my chances which

[44:23] >> the other thing to realize is we can put

[44:25] up all sorts of signs we can't make

[44:28] people read them

[44:29] >> so the the block the block from Kemble

[44:34] down to fair. I can't remember how many

[44:36] signs we counted. 26

[44:40] parking signs.

[44:44] Park mobile and online apps are used

[44:46] everywhere now. Like think about where

[44:48] do you go that you don't pay for parking

[44:50] in dense areas.

[44:52] We can't we can put signs there. We

[44:55] can't make people read them, right? So

[44:57] people are going to get people are going

[44:58] to get tickets because they either don't

[45:01] see or they choose not.

[45:03] And that's just how it is. And it's

[45:04] going to upset people to get a ticket. I

[45:06] think we can have conversations about

[45:08] there there are several of us who are

[45:10] open to the conversation about reducing

[45:13] um the ticket price for sure. Um it for

[45:16] one I mean this the staff the court

[45:18] clerk would be delighted to not have to

[45:21] argue with people about have you know

[45:24] deal with people who are upset about a

[45:25] $75 ticket. Marjorie spends a good deal

[45:28] of her time arguing. Not arguing but

[45:30] listening to people. We listen. We just

[45:33] listen

[45:34] >> um to people who care very loudly about

[45:36] their ticket at the door.

[45:38] >> Um so

[45:40] we have to just the reality. We have to

[45:42] run some numbers and you know see can we do it? What's the right amount

[45:47] and when do we do it? And for us from a

[45:50] budgeting perspective it would be far

[45:52] better to do on the budget cycle. And I

[45:55] thank you for recognizing that in your

[45:57] letter. We go into budget season in

[45:58] February. But know that there is we are

[46:01] open to those conversations.

[46:04] >> Um, and I would like to work with you on

[46:07] >> we Kate and I had a discussion today on

[46:09] email about what comparables are. And I

[46:12] think maybe this is a good point for you

[46:13] to hop in and about what we were

[46:17] thinking as we saw the number saw the

[46:19] locations and numbers

[46:21] >> um in terms of the materials

[46:24] >> and comparability. Yeah.

[46:25] >> Yeah. Um, first off, I mean, I

[46:27] appreciate a hearty dialogue, too, and

[46:30] I'm open to the to the conversation. Um,

[46:33] I think a lot of things on this, I think

[46:36] they fall into I'm getting to your

[46:38] question, right? Right. Fall into sort

[46:41] of I don't want to be repeating myself,

[46:42] but different categories of things we

[46:45] can move with and create some momentum

[46:47] around immediately, other things that

[46:49] are more budget cycle dependent, and

[46:50] other things that I feel need um deeper

[46:54] exploration. I'm kind of wary um about

[47:01] taking too many making too many

[47:03] decisions without a further exploration.

[47:06] And so

[47:08] that that have been suggested like the

[47:09] parking fines for instance. Yes, I think

[47:12] generally there's there's a there's a

[47:17] an emerging consensus that that's

[47:18] something that can be addressed, but I

[47:20] don't think you can look at that in

[47:22] isolation. You can't break out the

[47:25] parking fines from all of the other

[47:27] jurisdictions that you could look at

[47:29] where there are so many other different

[47:31] variables that come into play in terms

[47:32] of some have free parking and that and

[47:35] the fines whilst you may say start are

[47:38] lower than the $75 say up in Beacon.

[47:41] They have free parking but the fines are

[47:43] for if you overstay the 4hour limit.

[47:46] not a five hour limit. So if

[47:48] you overstay that 4hour limit first

[47:50] offense is $50. The second is 100. The

[47:53] third is 200.

[47:54] >> Meaning you that license plate.

[47:56] >> Yeah. So

[47:58] >> if you look at it from that point of

[48:00] view, the fines in beacon are actually

[48:03] higher than here because if you

[48:06] overstayed three times here, it' be $75.

[48:08] 3 time 75 is less than $450, $350,

[48:13] right? So I think that and other

[48:17] questions need a lot more exploration

[48:19] amongst all of us before we sort of come

[48:23] to some

[48:24] conclusions or conclusory actions around

[48:27] what may need to shift or change. Um

[48:32] >> and I also think for me sort of

[48:35] contextualizing it within

[48:37] the operation of the village um the

[48:40] village's annual budget is $4 million.

[48:43] When I be before I was a board member, I

[48:45] love going to Rybeck because parking is

[48:47] free. I was, you know, fan of free

[48:49] parking. I like that concept. But

[48:51] looking at the reality of the village's

[48:52] finances, an annual budget of $4

[48:55] million, lots of needs that it has to

[48:58] meet and the parking fees from the the

[49:02] non- taxpaying portion of the budget,

[49:04] say 2 million, it's it's 10% of that

[49:06] budget. So that's that's meaningful

[49:08] numbers in terms of the way the village

[49:10] operates. So for me that's all

[49:13] >> that you're talking about the you're

[49:14] talking about the

[49:15] >> the paid parking revenue. Yeah. So

[49:18] that's um

[49:21] >> that's important to us. And so that

[49:24] needs to be balanced against the needs

[49:26] that you clearly have and what to

[49:28] represent. And I also feel that um

[49:34] well I hit one little note here. um you

[49:37] know there needs there's got to be a

[49:39] deeper dive into some of the dynamics

[49:41] that are being um talked about in terms

[49:45] of it's not

[49:48] understand what that looks like and I I

[49:50] know you hear it from people and that's

[49:52] aggravating and and challenging to deal

[49:54] with but how many people is that and how

[49:58] does it actually how's that reflective

[50:00] actually in

[50:02] revenues from month to month or how

[50:04] actually does

[50:06] impact your business. I think in the

[50:08] June 2024

[50:10] letter that you included you you you'd

[50:13] cited something about, you know,

[50:16] a a Zoom call that Jesse was on, right?

[50:19] And you said um

[50:21] >> easy and important metrics to gather

[50:23] would include monitoring monthly sales

[50:24] revenue growth or decline, average

[50:26] transaction total, and total number of

[50:27] transactions per month. So I I would in

[50:30] these conversations that we may be able

[50:32] to have amongst ourselves, I'd like that

[50:34] to be part of the conversation too. So

[50:36] that when when when

[50:39] the main street committee says that it's

[50:40] not beneficial to us, that it's actually

[50:42] borne out in terms of oh there was a dip

[50:44] here or the rise here. But again that may not necessarily always be

[50:49] attributable solely to the structure of

[50:52] parking, right? So we so we got to look

[50:54] at it.

[50:56] >> Yeah. Yeah. Having you recognize that is

[51:00] a giant step forward because in previous

[51:03] iterations and when when I mean when

[51:06] change happens nobody likes it it's

[51:08] difficult but there was a lot of initial

[51:11] sort of shock factor that parking is you

[51:14] know my sales are down 34% and it's your

[51:16] parking is it you know it's like we

[51:18] we're dealing with tariffs we're dealing

[51:20] with

[51:22] a different war then but there's so and

[51:26] consumer confidence is down. Yes. You

[51:29] can't pin

[51:31] also people's business plan. How how

[51:33] often are you open and are you open at

[51:36] times that people can get to you? Um for

[51:39] a lot of a lot of businesses don't open

[51:43] not a lot of several businesses don't

[51:44] open almost at all. Like they're only

[51:47] open on Saturday. So our parking is

[51:51] maybe not as much an issue as your

[51:53] business plan. So I think Andrew raises

[51:56] that and it's it's not an accusation.

[51:57] It's just saying you can't look at any

[52:00] of these things in isolation. It's a

[52:02] system that works together.

[52:03] >> I mean I think also as part of that

[52:05] conversation too is you could have to

[52:06] look at things like the enforcement

[52:08] window we have paid parking on three

[52:10] days of the week 24 hours total. other

[52:13] towns, Ryan Beck, uh, Pipsy, I think

[52:17] they have and and Beacon too, you might

[52:20] site lower fines,

[52:23] have um, parking regulations in force,

[52:26] if not throughout the week, if not

[52:29] throughout the whole seven days a week,

[52:31] certainly 5 days a week. So, that's a

[52:33] very different picture in terms of the

[52:35] collections they're making from that

[52:37] particular structure versus the village,

[52:39] which I think is, you know,

[52:42] Maybe it's it's it's it's

[52:45] um fines are an outlier, but the village

[52:48] is also an outlier in terms of its its

[52:51] size, the amount of available parking

[52:53] and its popularity, I think, too. So,

[52:56] >> yeah. And I think we probably could

[52:58] monitor, you know, some of the social

[53:01] chatter and, you know, I do think

[53:03] anecdotal like evidence is like, you

[53:06] know, valid here when we hear like I got

[53:10] a $75 ticket. I'm never coming back to

[53:12] Cold Spring, you know, or I'm never

[53:14] coming back on the weekend and

[53:16] everything. And I think that's what a

[53:19] lot of merchants here have heard from.

[53:22] >> Do you ever hear why they got the $75

[53:24] ticket?

[53:25] >> I mean, maybe it's I'm sure it's like

[53:28] overstaying, you know, and but sometimes

[53:31] you lose track of time when you're

[53:33] having a good time, too. So $75 just

[53:37] seems very punitive.

[53:39] >> I do. Yeah, there's so so many layers of

[53:42] this and I think all of the talking

[53:43] points we could dig into at length. Um,

[53:46] you know, overstaying is certainly one

[53:48] and members have talked about a grace

[53:51] period which other towns sometimes have.

[53:52] So, if you get to your car 5 minutes

[53:54] late, you don't have that ticket. Um,

[53:57] misreading signs is another that's being

[53:59] addressed. Um, and we do have data. I

[54:01] mean, Kada is an example, poor George,

[54:03] of a shop that's open seven days a week

[54:05] and she has data and she's been down the

[54:07] last year. There shops like mine on

[54:10] upper Maine. We're only open four days a

[54:12] week if I'm doing my

[54:13] >> your your um your connection is sort of

[54:17] dropping every

[54:21] >> hour internet connection.

[54:22] >> We just got a notice on the screen that

[54:24] our internet connection internet

[54:25] connection is unstable.

[54:26] >> I'll speak a bit more slowly because I

[54:28] do think some of these points that are

[54:30] coming up. I would I would hate for

[54:32] there to be a misconception that the the

[54:35] you know if a shop were only to have a

[54:37] better business model then that would

[54:38] change the revenue streams. I do know

[54:40] that a lot of shops that aren't open

[54:43] Tuesdays and Wednesdays are not open

[54:45] because they cannot afford to pay people

[54:47] to sit in the shop that is not shopped

[54:49] and so we make those decisions based on

[54:51] what's possible. I also know that people

[54:53] coming in from Garrison have stopped

[54:56] coming in as much because of the parking

[54:58] setup that they have sort of been felt

[55:01] and this is coming you know from a few

[55:03] people but one who I'm sure you all know

[55:05] quite well who's elderly and is a stable

[55:07] of this community. Um they feel

[55:09] unwelcome. They don't come to lunch like

[55:12] they used to because they feel

[55:13] unwelcome. And so

[55:15] >> they know that they have other places

[55:16] they can park.

[55:18] >> I I think it's it's the spirit. I think

[55:21] it's this sorry I just I think it's the

[55:23] spirit that's off. So if we assume that

[55:26] someone isn't just being you know

[55:29] willing themselves not to read a sign or

[55:32] thinking that they can just park for

[55:33] however long and not get a ticket. And

[55:35] we can honestly think these people are

[55:38] good people who are happy to shop

[55:40] whether they're part of the community or

[55:42] visiting and they've messed up. and

[55:44] that's the person getting a $75 punitive

[55:47] ticket and it feels so bad. And then

[55:50] they look at the comparisons in other

[55:52] towns and they see that it's anomalous

[55:54] and then we understand that part of it

[55:56] not driven by metrics that align us with

[55:59] other towns but rather than by financial

[56:01] need for the village. It becomes really

[56:02] complicated to explain it to them. It's

[56:05] as if I were to have a babysitter come

[56:08] to my house and the going rate around

[56:10] here is $16 to $20 an hour. It's harsh.

[56:14] And I were to say, you know what? I'm

[56:15] only going to pay you 10 because right

[56:17] now that's all I can afford. I'm so

[56:19] sorry. It just it doesn't it doesn't

[56:21] work. You know, it doesn't work. And so

[56:23] I think we need to find a way for the

[56:27] number to be something that people can

[56:29] anticipate is realistic and align to

[56:31] other villages.

[56:32] >> Can I clarify a point you've made?

[56:35] >> Sure.

[56:36] >> What where I thought you started is not

[56:38] where you ended.

[56:40] I thought you were describing anxiety

[56:42] about paying for parking, but it sounds

[56:45] like what you mean is anxiety about the

[56:47] ticket. Well, I think for some it's

[56:50] both, but certainly the $75 ticket is

[56:53] punitive and and no matter, you know,

[56:57] how Yeah. who you are and what your

[57:00] intention is, it's it's um something

[57:02] that I do think regardless of the income

[57:05] that it provides for the village needs

[57:07] to be separated out and that metric

[57:09] shouldn't be a variable in making that

[57:10] decision.

[57:11] >> Shouldn't be what? A variable in

[57:14] determining the rate of the parking fee

[57:16] should not be the village's bottom line.

[57:21] » Sorry, go ahead.

[57:23] >> Um

[57:25] I I'm glad that after a little while

[57:29] into the program, we changed the the

[57:31] parking rate. I think that that was the

[57:32] right thing to do and I think that that

[57:34] was the best that we could do

[57:36] recognizing that we had like financially

[57:38] we did have to do a paid parking

[57:40] program. I think that was like very

[57:41] explicit of a goal of the program, but

[57:44] it was the best that we could do to kind

[57:47] of meet the the visitors where they were

[57:49] at in terms of of paying. So, I think

[57:52] that that was right and and I I hope

[57:56] that we can do things to make people

[57:58] feel welcome, but I think we are, you

[57:59] know, there's still going to be like a

[58:01] paid still going to be paid parking on

[58:03] Main Street. I don't think anybody's

[58:05] suggesting that it's not

[58:09] >> the village is also a business.

[58:11] >> Yeah.

[58:11] >> Right.

[58:12] >> We are also businesses.

[58:14] >> We all have to think in those ways and

[58:15] we have considered all of those things

[58:17] that you've said. I don't and have never

[58:19] been under the illusion that

[58:22] >> this equals that. There are lots of

[58:25] components for anything to be successful

[58:28] and you just have to keep adapting as we

[58:31] are like as we're all trying to do. I do

[58:34] hope that you all will consider though

[58:36] that feeling because this is something

[58:38] that we hear over and over and over. It

[58:41] feels unwelcome. Yeah.

[58:42] >> And it does. $75 feels unwelcome.

[58:45] >> Certificate price feels like we don't

[58:47] want you here. And it sends that message

[58:50] and just consider it like it's not you.

[58:52] It's not not against anything like we're

[58:55] all trying to come up with a solution

[58:56] together to make what's best for

[58:58] everybody. We're considering all of

[58:59] these things. We don't think that you

[59:01] don't consider them. We know that you

[59:03] guys consider them. We know that you're

[59:05] working so hard to find so many

[59:07] solutions and you know there's not

[59:10] solutions, there's trade-offs, right?

[59:11] That's

[59:13] >> Yeah, you're right. There trade-offs.

[59:14] >> So, we have to keep considering those things together and $75. Um, one

[59:20] really comparative place is Camzen,

[59:22] Maine, and I actually spoke um with

[59:25] people from from there in in their um

[59:28] village hall today. And they experience

[59:31] sort of what we experience

[59:33] that they have, you know, their normal

[59:36] 5,000 residents, which is more than our

[59:38] village of 2,000, but it's very close.

[59:41] >> And they triple. They go to 16,000 or

[59:44] more. They're not even sure how many

[59:46] more during, you know, especially during

[59:47] the summer months. So they have their

[59:50] parking program. You know, you start in what would be like our little

[59:55] village. That's the most expensive to

[59:58] park and then it slowly gets a little

[1:00:00] bit lower. But their parking is the

[1:00:02] same. They have that, hey, your first

[1:00:05] ticket is $25. Pay it within this amount

[1:00:09] of time. If you don't, it's 50. It's 75.

[1:00:11] And then it becomes, hey, maybe you

[1:00:13] didn't know, you didn't read that sign,

[1:00:15] right? You weren't paying attention. you

[1:00:17] any of those things. Um, but you have

[1:00:20] the chance to make it right and here it

[1:00:24] is like do it, get it done, and let's,

[1:00:27] you know, let's let's move on. Um, and I

[1:00:30] think it's a really wonderful model. I

[1:00:32] do, and I think it's worth exploring and

[1:00:34] taking on those numbers and really

[1:00:37] seeing what we can do with that because

[1:00:40] the result is people saying that they're

[1:00:42] never coming back. And a lot of these

[1:00:44] people are local people and they just

[1:00:47] don't come in. I hear it all day long. I

[1:00:49] don't come in on the weekend at all. I'm

[1:00:50] not even, you know, they totally bypass

[1:00:52] us. And it's important for us to be

[1:00:56] strong.

[1:00:57] >> I am super open to the idea. Uh we I

[1:01:01] want to make clear that our code

[1:01:04] an increased amount. It's it's by right

[1:01:08] >> 30 days, 60 days, 90 days. So the ticket

[1:01:10] is first 75 and then I and I may not

[1:01:13] have this exactly right, but then Oh,

[1:01:14] you have it in

[1:01:16] >> uh 75 100 125,

[1:01:19] >> but it's over a longer period. I'm

[1:01:20] intrigued by what you're putting forward

[1:01:22] the idea of pay it faster

[1:01:26] >> for less. um

[1:01:27] >> don't come to court, don't but also

[1:01:31] street, right?

[1:01:32] >> But also, let's also recognize that it

[1:01:36] it's not a system that anyone likes. But

[1:01:38] we do currently have a system that says

[1:01:40] if you feel that you are unjustly fined,

[1:01:43] you come to the come to the the justice

[1:01:46] and you make your argument and they have

[1:01:48] discretion. We set the limits, then they

[1:01:52] decide. And if you're convincing, you

[1:01:55] might get your ticket reduced by the

[1:01:57] justice. So, there is a system in place.

[1:02:00] I don't I don't want to make it sound

[1:02:01] like it's I just want to make sure we're

[1:02:02] clear that it's not all or nothing.

[1:02:04] There is a system in place and some of

[1:02:07] the things that you're suggesting may

[1:02:09] really help.

[1:02:10] >> Yeah, I absolutely understand all those

[1:02:12] things. We're just saying that starting

[1:02:13] point of 75. And I also want to just

[1:02:16] note all of those things that you said

[1:02:18] before that, you know, tariffs, you

[1:02:20] know, this long list. Yeah. has

[1:02:22] compounded. We we are feeling that and

[1:02:25] then we're feeling this on top of it.

[1:02:26] Plus, we just came out of CO like and

[1:02:28] we're still just came out of CO for some

[1:02:31] of us. Some of us are newer and you know

[1:02:33] other other circumstances, but

[1:02:35] >> some of us will never come out of that

[1:02:36] trauma.

[1:02:37] >> Never some of us are just feeling it

[1:02:39] now. I mean, there's there's so many

[1:02:41] things to consider, but I also want to

[1:02:43] um I economics just in general, a lot of

[1:02:46] people can't afford almost anything now.

[1:02:49] And what if you made that mistake? you

[1:02:51] came and you brought your your, you

[1:02:53] know, your family to Main Street and you

[1:02:55] got that ticket that you really can't

[1:02:57] afford and maybe you just wanted to

[1:03:01] stroll for the day, you know, whatever

[1:03:03] it is with your family and then you get

[1:03:04] that $75 ticket. Is that person able to,

[1:03:07] you know, even come back to fight it?

[1:03:09] You still have to have the means to do

[1:03:11] all of these things. And we want to be a

[1:03:14] place that is for everyone, right? We

[1:03:16] don't want it to just be investors that

[1:03:17] are coming in and taking over our

[1:03:19] village. We want it to be the families,

[1:03:22] the people that are, you know,

[1:03:24] supporting little league and all the

[1:03:26] other things. And a $75 ticket, period,

[1:03:29] as your first ticket does tell anybody

[1:03:32] that we don't want you here. And I just

[1:03:34] hope it's considered.

[1:03:36] >> Can I can I ask a question

[1:03:40] example?

[1:03:41] >> Um,

[1:03:43] how do they how do people know that

[1:03:47] that's the system? Because as the mayor

[1:03:50] noted here, if you get a ticket,

[1:03:55] >> I assume this is the case for most

[1:03:57] places where you would get a ticket, but

[1:03:58] there is a a means to address it and,

[1:04:03] you know, quote unquote fight it.

[1:04:06] >> Appeal.

[1:04:06] Thank you. I want to say fight

[1:04:08] appeal.

[1:04:09] >> Um,

[1:04:09] >> no fighting or try not to fight.

[1:04:12] [laughter] Talk about it in a productive

[1:04:13] way.

[1:04:14] >> Problem solved.

[1:04:16] >> Problems. [laughter]

[1:04:17] Um, and so I guess what I wonder is I'm

[1:04:21] sure there's people who make mistakes.

[1:04:22] I'm not, you know, earlier when I was

[1:04:24] asking, you know, this person who says

[1:04:26] that they get a $75 ticket and they're

[1:04:28] like I I'm sure there's people who make

[1:04:31] mistakes. I'm not arguing that I I'm not

[1:04:34] questioning the goodness of people's

[1:04:36] hearts or minds when they come here. I I

[1:04:38] don't have time for that. But

[1:04:41] what I wonder is

[1:04:43] um

[1:04:45] how does Maine tell not Maine but that

[1:04:49] >> how do people there know that they can

[1:04:53] >> print on the ticket probably

[1:04:54] >> okay so I mean I well that would be kind

[1:04:57] of an interesting thing right so you get

[1:04:58] a ticket if it's not printed on our

[1:05:01] tickets then maybe that's something

[1:05:03] regardless of what the end price is

[1:05:05] going to be

[1:05:06] >> that they know that there is a means to

[1:05:08] address it if they feel that it was, you

[1:05:11] know, they messed up and they don't, you

[1:05:13] know, they're very reasonable here. You

[1:05:16] just go online and you do it. You don't

[1:05:18] have to physically come back to

[1:05:21] >> But people are paying those tickets is

[1:05:23] what I'm saying. So the numbers that

[1:05:25] they're seeing and they have it all. I

[1:05:26] mean, they're really really comparable

[1:05:29] to us. Um, the numbers that they're

[1:05:30] seeing is that those people are just

[1:05:32] paying for it whether they want they

[1:05:34] think it was wrong or not. They're just

[1:05:35] paying it because they would rather not

[1:05:37] pay the gas that they're paying to get

[1:05:39] back to to do whatever it is.

[1:05:40] >> And you think it's because it's

[1:05:42] >> a lower and you're incentivized because

[1:05:45] it because you know that the next day it

[1:05:47] will go up.

[1:05:48] >> So you're like, "Oh, I'm just going to

[1:05:49] do this.

[1:05:50] >> I'm not going to fight it another day to

[1:05:53] go fight this."

[1:05:54] >> No. I mean, I think that's very

[1:05:55] interesting. I just wondered how that

[1:05:56] was articulated. how people know that

[1:05:58] and they don't know that there's an

[1:06:00] opportunity here when they get a ticket

[1:06:02] to

[1:06:03] >> I think people do know I I

[1:06:05] >> they do it does it says right on the

[1:06:07] ticket I mean I don't have I don't have

[1:06:08] one in front of us right now but it does

[1:06:10] say on the ticket to dis how how to

[1:06:12] dispute there's a QR code

[1:06:14] >> the I think we've al we've got a giant

[1:06:17] agenda after this and I very much

[1:06:19] appreciated the conversation we could go

[1:06:20] on all night so I think we found a lot

[1:06:23] of common ground you feel like we've

[1:06:25] found a lot of common ground or some

[1:06:26] common ground anyway I think we found a

[1:06:28] lot of common ground,

[1:06:31] right?

[1:06:31] >> Okay. So, Kate and Kada,

[1:06:35] um, let me know about the 10th. Um, and

[1:06:38] we'll take it from there.

[1:06:41] >> Okay, that sounds great.

[1:06:43] >> Um, okay. Yep. Yep. That's another

[1:06:46] point. Never mind. All good. All good. I

[1:06:50] appreciate you coming in person. I

[1:06:51] appreciate you coming in person and

[1:06:53] hanging out for the whole conversation

[1:06:55] to have a conversation.

[1:06:57] >> [laughter]

[1:06:58] >> have a really good night.

[1:06:59] >> Thank you.

[1:06:59] guys.

[1:07:00] >> Thank you.

[1:07:03] >> Okay.

[1:07:05] >> Um

[1:07:07] so Parsonage Street um we know that

[1:07:09] there is there is failed storm storm

[1:07:12] infrastructure. Good night. Good night.

[1:07:15] on uh Parsonage Street. The property

[1:07:18] lines on Personage Street are a little

[1:07:20] wacky and we have a lot of uh private

[1:07:23] homes

[1:07:25] uh roof roof drainage drainage draining

[1:07:28] into our storm drain. So, we need to

[1:07:30] figure out where the property lines are.

[1:07:32] Um

[1:07:34] there it has been bid out by Han. Good

[1:07:36] night, Matt. Thank you. Thank you for

[1:07:38] staying.

[1:07:39] >> Thank you.

[1:07:39] >> It's bid out by Han. Um

[1:07:42] the although it is the longest. Are you

[1:07:46] trying to say something to me?

[1:07:47] >> No.

[1:07:47] >> Okay.

[1:07:49] I'm trying to find out where we are

[1:07:50] though.

[1:07:52] >> The cheapest the cheapest is the

[1:07:54] cheapest by a lot. By 8,000 bucks. Is

[1:07:57] that right? Yeah. Not 7,000 bucks. Um

[1:08:01] the longer time frame, but much less. Um

[1:08:05] Matt did ask to be on Rowan's schedule

[1:08:09] for surveying um pending the board

[1:08:13] approving the acceptance of that

[1:08:16] discussion.

[1:08:19] This is uh sorry I should say that it is

[1:08:21] for the benefit of the public. It is um

[1:08:25] the first step toward repairs on

[1:08:28] necessary repairs on Parson Street. You

[1:08:31] got it. Yes.

[1:08:34] discussion.

[1:08:38] Like to make a motion.

[1:08:41] >> I make a motion to accept the

[1:08:42] engineers's recommendation

[1:08:45] to accept the bid of row and landing

[1:08:47] PLLC for surveying services for the past

[1:08:51] improvement project for $4,000 with an

[1:08:55] anticipated time frame of six weeks.

[1:08:58] Second. All in favor? I thought I

[1:09:03] holding our spot quickly. It's going to

[1:09:05] be

[1:09:11] um next we are closing out the

[1:09:15] transition of the

[1:09:17] court clerk from the former clerk to the

[1:09:19] current clerk. Um, and Justice

[1:09:25] Hilbert, I wrote Costello, Justice

[1:09:27] Hilbert has let us know that he will not

[1:09:29] belabor all the issues that have had

[1:09:30] getting to the court where it needs to

[1:09:32] be, but frankly

[1:09:34] don't know how, this is what I was

[1:09:36] speaking to earlier. I don't know how

[1:09:37] the court is operating with such

[1:09:38] antiquated systems. The transition has

[1:09:40] been a complete overhaul. So, our ask is

[1:09:43] that um consultant Kathy Costello be

[1:09:46] paid for 23.5 hours that she worked in

[1:09:49] June and she be allocated an additional

[1:09:50] eight hours to finalize training. Court

[1:09:53] is prepared to have that taken from our

[1:09:55] budget. Um Cathy's guidance is more

[1:09:57] important than anything else the court

[1:09:59] need at this time. So, the June, which

[1:10:01] is $50 an hour, the June amount is

[1:10:03] roughly 1,175

[1:10:05] and the eight remaining hours is 400.

[1:10:09] Discussion

[1:10:11] Hearing

[1:10:13] none. Would someone like to make the

[1:10:14] motion? I make

[1:10:17] >> I make a motion to authorize the mayor

[1:10:19] to approve payment consulting Cath

[1:10:21] Gastello for 23 and a half hours worked

[1:10:24] in June and budget for an additional

[1:10:26] eight hours finalized just court clerk

[1:10:30] training at a rate of $50 per hour.

[1:10:34] >> All in favor?

[1:10:37] Okay, next I I will probably rely on

[1:10:40] Marjorie and Andrew a bit. I want to

[1:10:43] thank Andrew for taking the time to to

[1:10:45] dig in. It was

[1:10:48] you were we were close to the edge

[1:10:50] there, but you took the time to dig in

[1:10:51] and ask good questions. Um so the cost

[1:10:56] of all of our liabilities,

[1:11:00] our liability insurance is included

[1:11:03] um in this bid. We have a new layer of

[1:11:07] insurance which is cyber security. Um

[1:11:11] >> it's renewal.

[1:11:13] >> I'm sorry. Renewal I was thinking it was

[1:11:15] new. Thank you. Renewal that is through

[1:11:17] travelers. Um so that number is included

[1:11:21] in the final here. The total amount of

[1:11:23] $132,553.14

[1:11:27] which is due in two component two parts

[1:11:29] two payments. Um, I just want to point

[1:11:33] out that we have nearly $19 million in

[1:11:35] assets that we need to protect between

[1:11:37] our buildings and our equipment,

[1:11:41] our people. Um, so we are this is not a

[1:11:45] small operation.

[1:11:47] >> Um, discussion. Andrew, do you have any

[1:11:49] comments to make from you?

[1:11:52] There there are a few questions that I

[1:11:53] went over with with the um the

[1:11:55] underwriters and um or the brokers and

[1:11:58] um they answered them all

[1:12:00] satisfactorily. Um the one

[1:12:04] the yearto-year difference is an

[1:12:05] increase in premium of about $6,000.

[1:12:07] That's primarily

[1:12:10] and that's um

[1:12:12] as Margie the clerk pointed out is

[1:12:14] partly due to um a rerate an increase um

[1:12:19] rerating the value of the buildings. um

[1:12:21] the 60 cent increase I believe

[1:12:23] >> also you know this is a liability

[1:12:25] general liability insurance and the cost

[1:12:28] of replacing anything as any homeowner

[1:12:30] knows right now the cost of construction

[1:12:33] has gone up astronomically so it's cost

[1:12:36] of materials

[1:12:37] >> and just uh increased value of home so

[1:12:41] it's inflation plus increased cost of of

[1:12:45] material 6%

[1:12:47] >> and that being said the overall price

[1:12:49] has gone up $6,000 So I think that's a

[1:12:51] pretty pretty fair um price to pay

[1:12:55] >> from year to year for the year policy.

[1:12:58] That's right. And you know cyber

[1:12:59] security too that you know overall

[1:13:02] that's included in the big chunk and

[1:13:04] cyber security went up pretty

[1:13:07] significantly you know you know $800 you

[1:13:10] know but

[1:13:12] >> um that's our risks are higher for

[1:13:15] everyone and so cost of insurance is

[1:13:18] >> and that's what I was thinking about

[1:13:19] when I said new I was focusing on

[1:13:22] the recent issues that that we are

[1:13:25] focusing on it's a it's a part of it's a reality on our everyday day life to

[1:13:29] protect our everyday operations to

[1:13:32] protect records and protect functions

[1:13:34] and

[1:13:35] >> frankly it's costs time also

[1:13:38] >> and lots of time

[1:13:39] >> it's lots of time so yeah so

[1:13:42] >> we paid in two pieces pay 50% and

[1:13:44] another 50%

[1:13:47] >> do we have a starting resolution number

[1:13:52] » didn't write it down and I promised I

[1:13:54] would I'm sorry I think it's 34 but

[1:13:57] please let me back. So, sorry I'm

[1:14:00] getting glared at.

[1:14:02] [laughter]

[1:14:07] » You [clears throat] don't know what my

[1:14:08] day was like.

[1:14:11] >> Today, don't worry about it. Should

[1:14:12] Would you like us to work with 34? How

[1:14:15] would you like us to handle it?

[1:14:16] >> I I think you should put it in

[1:14:18] >> as 34.

[1:14:19] >> No, I think you should say tentatively

[1:14:21] 34.

[1:14:23] >> I will renumber them.

[1:14:25] >> I'm sorry. Don't look at Mar.

[1:14:30] » Okay. So, would someone like to move

[1:14:32] tentative resolution tentative

[1:14:35] resolution 34?

[1:14:36] >> 34. Is that what you said?

[1:14:38] >> I think 34.

[1:14:40] >> I could be wrong. We have to read it for

[1:14:41] the record.

[1:14:42] >> Yes, we do.

[1:14:42] >> Okay.

[1:14:44] Resolution number tentatively 34-2026

[1:14:48] village of Cold Spring Board of Trustees

[1:14:50] approving the renewal of general

[1:14:53] ability insurance. The following

[1:14:55] resolution was offered by myself for

[1:14:58] adoption in second 5B

[1:15:00] by the mayor to whereas the village of

[1:15:03] Cold Springs general liability insurance

[1:15:05] policies are due to renew on August 1st,

[1:15:07] 2026. And whereas the village has

[1:15:09] received a renewal proposal from the New

[1:15:11] York Municipal Insurance Reciprocal

[1:15:14] in the amount of $128,200

[1:15:18] and 200 128,21.14

[1:15:23] has received a cyber security liability

[1:15:27] renewal proposal from travelers in the

[1:15:29] amount of $4,352.

[1:15:32] And whereas the total premium of the

[1:15:34] package of insurance renewals is

[1:15:36] $132,553.14

[1:15:40] the period of August 1st 2026 through

[1:15:42] August 1st 2027.

[1:15:44] Now therefore, it is hereby resolved that

[1:15:48] the village of Cold Spring renews the

[1:15:50] general liability insurance policy

[1:15:51] through the New York Municipal Insurance

[1:15:53] Reciprocal and be further resolved that

[1:15:55] the village clerk treasurer is

[1:15:57] authorized and instructed to execute the

[1:15:59] plans documents on behalf of the village

[1:16:00] of Cold Spring. On a roll call. Can I

[1:16:04] make a slight amendment to the

[1:16:05] resolution that the village of Cold

[1:16:08] Spring renews the general liability

[1:16:09] insurance policy through New York

[1:16:11] municipal insurance reciprocal and

[1:16:15] travelers.

[1:16:17] We're purchasing our cyber insurance. So

[1:16:21] >> there is a paragraph that the second

[1:16:23] paragraph and has received

[1:16:25] >> renewal proposal

[1:16:26] >> a renewal proposal for travelers in the

[1:16:28] amount of 4,000. Is that not

[1:16:30] >> I think it's just in the resolved

[1:16:31] section.

[1:16:32] >> Oh, in the resolve part section.

[1:16:34] >> Okay. And I got it. Got it.

[1:16:38] >> Is that amendable to the mover?

[1:16:43] » I I am the second and I am amendable.

[1:16:46] That so um it's a roll call vote.

[1:16:49] >> May I ask a question for understand this

[1:16:51] is do we pay twice a year?

[1:16:53] >> Yes.

[1:16:53] >> Okay.

[1:16:55] And we pay there's another invoice that

[1:16:58] just came in today that wasn't in the

[1:16:59] packet or travel. We pay travelers

[1:17:02] directly. So that's $4,300.

[1:17:06] >> That's paid off$52 and that's separate.

[1:17:08] So that's

[1:17:09] >> two times that.

[1:17:12] >> Thank you.

[1:17:15] >> Okay. So it's a roll call.

[1:17:17] >> Trusty Bis is absent.

[1:17:20] Trusty Boosezie.

[1:17:22] Trusty Hall.

[1:17:23] >> Yes. Trusty Woods.

[1:17:25] >> Hi.

[1:17:26] >> And Mayor Foley.

[1:17:27] >> Hi.

[1:17:30] >> Resolution is adopted. 4001.

[1:17:34] » And the next item, I am delighted that

[1:17:39] the tree advisory board. There were four

[1:17:41] um resignations starting with Tony and

[1:17:44] then three others. Um people who have

[1:17:47] served a really long time and deserve

[1:17:49] some some time off from that volunteer

[1:17:51] position. and we've had really excellent

[1:17:53] candidates. So, um the acting the

[1:17:56] interim chair Taro Ayataka has

[1:17:59] recommended Jane Demick um and Kathy

[1:18:02] Carnival to sit on the tree advisory

[1:18:04] board discussion

[1:18:07] and then this new this newly excuse me

[1:18:09] this newly constituted group will make a

[1:18:12] recommendation for chair and we appoint

[1:18:14] the chair.

[1:18:18] Can we collapse this into a single?

[1:18:21] >> Do we know the term end date?

[1:18:23] >> Oh, yes. There's two different

[1:18:24] >> Oh, you're right. There two different

[1:18:25] terms. That's why. Okay. So, I make a

[1:18:28] motion to accept the recommendation of

[1:18:29] interim tree advisory board chair

[1:18:32] Ayataka to appoint village resident Jane

[1:18:34] Demick to a seat on the board for a term

[1:18:36] ending 12 2026.

[1:18:38] >> Second.

[1:18:40] >> Okay. And I make a motion to accept the

[1:18:42] recommendation of interim tree advisory

[1:18:43] board chair Tero Ayataka. He's really

[1:18:46] insistent on the interim part is interim there

[1:18:50] >> to appoint village resident Katherryn

[1:18:52] Carnival to sit on the board for a term

[1:18:54] ending 12 2027.

[1:18:57] >> All in favor?

[1:18:58] >> I

[1:19:00] just for the record it's 121 20.

[1:19:06] >> It's the day it's the day that the

[1:19:07] village legal year starts the day of our

[1:19:11] reorg.

[1:19:12] Okay. Um,

[1:19:15] sad lady,

[1:19:17] we have four proposed to accept the

[1:19:19] resignation of Abigail McKini. Um,

[1:19:23] Abigail did a fantastic job while she

[1:19:26] was here. We knew that we wouldn't have

[1:19:27] her forever, that she would go off and

[1:19:29] do other fantastic things. She was

[1:19:32] headed back to grad school. Um, so just

[1:19:35] give you a bit of this. We're concerned

[1:19:39] that this is we're going into a time

[1:19:42] there are a number of large applications

[1:19:44] coming in. It's been quiet for a while

[1:19:45] now. We have a few large applications

[1:19:47] coming in. So, while we um search for a

[1:19:53] permanent replacement, the former board

[1:19:55] secretary Karen Herbert is amendable to

[1:19:57] coming in and helping us through that

[1:19:59] busy time. So between the coverage of

[1:20:02] Marjorie and

[1:20:04] Delana and Karen, we'll we'll get we'll

[1:20:08] get through somehow, but we need this to

[1:20:10] turn around quickly because it is a

[1:20:12] that's a big chunk of the daily work.

[1:20:15] >> So

[1:20:17] >> and and a lot of night work. Marjorie,

[1:20:19] you know, now doing us. She did zoning

[1:20:21] board last night. Next week she's got

[1:20:25] planning. Yeah.

[1:20:26] >> Too much for one person if you want.

[1:20:29] creativity. [laughter]

[1:20:36] » Abigail,

[1:20:38] >> uh, I make a motion to, uh, accept the

[1:20:40] resignation of village of Cold Spring,

[1:20:43] Abigail Henny from her position as

[1:20:44] secretary to the signing board effective

[1:20:46] Friday, August the 7th, 2026, and

[1:20:49] authorize the advertise advertisement advertisement of the open

[1:20:54] position.

[1:20:56] Second, all in favor? Hi.

[1:21:03] » Um, and just the secretary to the zoning

[1:21:05] board that is her that is the title

[1:21:07] under civil service.

[1:21:09] >> Um, okay. The moment that you have been

[1:21:14] waiting for.

[1:21:15] >> Yeah.

[1:21:16] >> Event coordinator.

[1:21:18] We have before us the

[1:21:22] proposal from the chamber to host the

[1:21:25] Halloween parade between the hours of 4

[1:21:27] and 7:30 on October 24th.

[1:21:30] Um,

[1:21:32] a bit of conversation about this post

[1:21:34] meeting the other day.

[1:21:36] Um, the the chamber has traditionally

[1:21:39] gathered on St. Mary's lawn but not

[1:21:42] asked. Um, and I

[1:21:45] >> pretty sure I told them they had.

[1:21:47] >> So that's what I was making sure that

[1:21:50] they did. And I don't know when St.

[1:21:53] Mary's will be ready with their

[1:21:54] applications, but I know that this is on

[1:21:56] the St. Mary's radar.

[1:21:58] This may evolve as St. Mary's evolves

[1:22:00] its practices. So we what we are being

[1:22:02] asked to approve tonight is not what is

[1:22:04] on the lawn, but the actual parade,

[1:22:06] which we have budgeted for in terms of

[1:22:08] public safety discussion.

[1:22:13] Okay, I'd like to make a motion. I make

[1:22:16] a motion to approve Cole Spring Chamber

[1:22:18] of Commerce application to host the

[1:22:21] annual Halloween parade between the

[1:22:23] hours of 4 and 7:30,

[1:22:25] October 24th, 2026.

[1:22:30] » You want to read the rest or is that

[1:22:32] part? Well, I guess

[1:22:35] yeah from St. Mary's bond route 9D and

[1:22:38] Main Street to stand second. All in

[1:22:42] favor?

[1:22:44] >> I saw Halloween items in the store this

[1:22:48] weekend.

[1:22:49] >> Please let us have the rest of our

[1:22:51] summer.

[1:22:53] >> Okay. Um,

[1:22:55] next is an approval. So, this this is

[1:22:57] the annual Church Street block party,

[1:22:59] which is super fun.

[1:23:04] They always do it on the Sunday of Labor

[1:23:07] Day weekend. Block the whole block. I

[1:23:09] did have Lilian and I both had

[1:23:11] conversations with the officer in charge

[1:23:13] about some of his concerns about the

[1:23:15] event. Um the the challenge in the last

[1:23:18] couple of years has not been people

[1:23:21] coming onto the street. It's people

[1:23:23] driving their cars on residents on

[1:23:26] Church Street driving their cars on the

[1:23:28] street. So what he has asked for two

[1:23:31] things. He's put used cones in the past.

[1:23:33] This year he's going to use barriers.

[1:23:36] Um and he asks

[1:23:38] Lillian through you that the um the

[1:23:42] organizers on Church Street

[1:23:46] create a documentation. You mean a P

[1:23:49] door to door something so that everybody

[1:23:51] knows when the street is closed that's

[1:23:52] closed for you park ahead of time out.

[1:23:54] >> Email was sent to Joe Jody. You've

[1:23:58] already done it. um asking her to do

[1:24:00] that and also asking her to reach out to

[1:24:03] the residents of Main Street who parked

[1:24:06] in that back parking lot behind the old

[1:24:08] CE.

[1:24:09] >> Yeah.

[1:24:09] >> Um because I know through experience

[1:24:12] with the fire company

[1:24:13] >> that they sometimes get forgotten about.

[1:24:16] >> Okay, great.

[1:24:16] >> So Jody has not responded back to me,

[1:24:19] but you know.

[1:24:20] >> Well, so so permission granted pending

[1:24:23] confirmation of communication would be

[1:24:25] my proposal.

[1:24:29] Um,

[1:24:30] so, uh, I make a motion to approve the

[1:24:33] request submitted by Jody Curly Egan on

[1:24:35] behalf of the residents of Church Street

[1:24:36] to close Church Street on Sunday,

[1:24:38] September 6th, 2026, 12:00 noon through

[1:24:41] the evening hours for the neighborhood's

[1:24:42] annual block party pending confirmation

[1:24:45] of communication regarding

[1:24:49] parking for Church Street residents

[1:24:50] themselves and Main Street residents who

[1:24:53] park at Church.

[1:24:54] >> Second. All in favor?

[1:24:58] And another thing. Okay,

[1:25:01] next. Um,

[1:25:04] Mary Malakus painted our tunnel the

[1:25:07] first time in June 2023. Actually, it

[1:25:11] was July 2023 during the storm that she

[1:25:14] was finishing. She painted it once as a

[1:25:17] donation. She repaired it after the um

[1:25:21] after the floods as a donation. She has

[1:25:24] now repainted it a third time post the

[1:25:28] construction to repair the tunnel and

[1:25:30] she's a working artist. We need to pay

[1:25:33] her. Um so she she has build us for her

[1:25:35] time. The project is complete. It looks

[1:25:37] fantastic. $3,600.

[1:25:40] Um and this will come as out of the

[1:25:42] general village improvement fund.

[1:25:44] Welcome.

[1:25:48] Good. Someone like to make a motion?

[1:25:53] I make a motion. No, go ahead. Uh, we

[1:25:55] approve the payment to artist Mary

[1:25:57] Molakis for the pedestrian tunnel mural

[1:26:01] repairs of $3,600.

[1:26:04] >> Second. All in favor?

[1:26:06] >> I I

[1:26:08] Okay,

[1:26:10] now on to the schedule. So, I tried to

[1:26:13] make this simple. There are a couple of

[1:26:15] typos that we caught after it went out

[1:26:17] to you, but from our discussion in our

[1:26:20] last meeting,

[1:26:22] um Michelle was on vacation that week,

[1:26:23] so there were a couple of there were

[1:26:24] some things that she caught. So, um Oh,

[1:26:28] you know what I didn't bring? I printed

[1:26:29] out the resolution from John and I

[1:26:32] didn't bring it. Do you have it? You

[1:26:33] have it? Put it in.

[1:26:36] >> You can make a motion. Okay.

[1:26:38] >> It is 35. I didck the number. So the

[1:26:41] last one was definitely 34 and list 35.

[1:26:45] >> So just to talk you through what's

[1:26:46] changed since the last time. Um

[1:26:48] everything that's highlighted in bright

[1:26:49] yellow are changes. Um Ann pulled up

[1:26:53] genealogy research. Um we did do some

[1:26:57] research on the motor vehicle incident

[1:26:58] and accident report with the DMV. So $25

[1:27:01] is um for that. We made the correction

[1:27:05] on the off streetet parking waiver. It

[1:27:07] now says 1,000 per space.

[1:27:10] Somehow I missed the transcription of

[1:27:13] pools, hot tubs, and spas. I don't know

[1:27:14] how that happened, but now it's in

[1:27:17] buildings, standing board reviews. Um

[1:27:22] Michelle, and I agree with her, thought

[1:27:23] we should clarify that HDRB is escro fee

[1:27:26] for public hearings only.

[1:27:28] Um,

[1:27:30] and her recommendation in looking at

[1:27:32] these escros was that

[1:27:36] as costs have increased per hour of

[1:27:38] attorney time, $1,000 isn't enough for

[1:27:41] most applications. Um, so she

[1:27:45] recommended that we bump to 2500.

[1:27:47] Um, where we have left it low,

[1:27:51] where I am proposing that it is left low

[1:27:53] is under tree advisory board. Um, it's

[1:27:56] very rare that babies give a little

[1:27:58] turning. There have been um there have

[1:28:02] been one

[1:28:03] >> What page are you?

[1:28:04] >> I'm on page four. I'm sorry that I'm not

[1:28:06] I'm just blathering on. I've looked at

[1:28:07] this things.

[1:28:09] >> Yeah.

[1:28:09] >> Um the tree advisory board used the

[1:28:12] village attorney once last year for a

[1:28:15] take down application where there was uh

[1:28:17] friction between neighbors. So, it's not

[1:28:20] as often and it was a a quick

[1:28:22] consultation. So my proposal is 500 for

[1:28:25] their escrow when needed on a case- by

[1:28:28] case basis.

[1:28:30] Um

[1:28:33] they'll also helped clean up some

[1:28:35] language related to water and waste.

[1:28:37] Remember we were talking about

[1:28:40] there being people who refuse meters

[1:28:42] versus people who have meters that can't

[1:28:45] be accessed to read and need a manual

[1:28:47] read.

[1:28:49] Um so her recommended language was

[1:28:52] quarterly manual read accessible meter

[1:28:56] and it shouldn't should just say just one rate not in village out the

[1:28:59] village

[1:29:02] that needs to be modified and then

[1:29:04] quarterly penalty for inaccessible

[1:29:06] slashoutdated

[1:29:08] and on those like some of them are

[1:29:11] literally built behind walls

[1:29:13] etc. there w there is an opportunity for

[1:29:16] people to expose them again. Um though

[1:29:19] her recommendation was that as an

[1:29:20] incentive we note that

[1:29:24] um there will be a prorated correction

[1:29:27] once they corre once they fix the the

[1:29:31] accessibility.

[1:29:32] >> How far back does the go?

[1:29:38] It would be that year.

[1:29:46] » It's not like it's one year.

[1:29:50] >> Oh, no. Just like when you when you buy

[1:29:51] a house and you close out.

[1:29:54] >> Oh, this is But okay, go ahead. Maybe.

[1:29:59] So, so this charge we have to go and do

[1:30:02] a manual read at this house because

[1:30:06] either they have intentionally or they

[1:30:08] bought a house that somebody blocked

[1:30:10] access to the yeah

[1:30:12] >> to the meter. So, uh we this is a this

[1:30:16] to incentivize people to move forward

[1:30:19] and get them accessible to us. We charge

[1:30:21] a fee for our guys to to go to those

[1:30:23] houses and do a manual read. Her

[1:30:26] suggestion is that is that in that year

[1:30:28] just like as you when you buy a house

[1:30:31] you prorrate your quarter what you owe

[1:30:35] the buyer and the seller make an

[1:30:36] exchange of of money. Her suggestion was

[1:30:39] that happened for that year

[1:30:43] in a in a prorating transaction. Sounds

[1:30:45] like it needs to say for that year

[1:30:48] fiscal year.

[1:30:50] I think I read it as as for however many

[1:30:54] years they've been paying the quarterly

[1:30:56] penalty. That is not what's intended.

[1:30:59] So, let's fix that language.

[1:31:03] » Um, usage per rated for that for current

[1:31:07] fiscal year.

[1:31:13] » Okay, that's that's Yep. Thank you. Good

[1:31:15] catch. That makes more sense.

[1:31:27] modifications in water, waste water.

[1:31:29] That's it. We do I have started an

[1:31:33] inquiry with um John first and and will

[1:31:37] Angelo about how what changes we need to

[1:31:39] make in the code to set appropriately

[1:31:44] set um

[1:31:46] font performance fonts and

[1:31:49] calculation that's not determined by the

[1:31:51] crew chief all by himself.

[1:31:53] >> So that is that will be we'll return to

[1:31:55] that.

[1:31:57] >> So

[1:32:00] the resolution then would be as amended

[1:32:02] in session.

[1:32:03] >> Yeah.

[1:32:03] >> Okay.

[1:32:05] >> Uh resolution number had anything right?

[1:32:10] >> Um resolution number 35 2026 updating

[1:32:13] and amending the fee schedule. The

[1:32:15] following resolution was offered by

[1:32:17] Trusty Bozy for adoption and seconded by

[1:32:20] second

[1:32:20] >> trusty Woods. Uh whereas the village of

[1:32:22] Cold Spring previously adopted a fee

[1:32:25] schedule for the village whereas the

[1:32:26] village of Cold Spring fee schedule does

[1:32:28] support the fees associated with various

[1:32:29] village services and fines and

[1:32:31] connection with enforcement actions. And

[1:32:34] whereas the board of trustees announced

[1:32:36] a meeting on July 22nd, 2026 to present

[1:32:39] a draft of the updated P village P

[1:32:41] schedule. Whereas the updated and

[1:32:44] amended village of Colbury PE schedule

[1:32:46] um here directly A as amended in

[1:32:51] session.

[1:32:52] Um and is hereby resolved that the

[1:32:55] village of culturing fee schedule uh

[1:32:58] attached as exhibit A is adopted and the

[1:33:00] fees and fines listed therein are

[1:33:02] effective the date of this resolution.

[1:33:05] >> Second all in favor

[1:33:14] » trusty Bis is absent and trusty Boozie

[1:33:18] >> hi Paul.

[1:33:20] >> Hi

[1:33:21] >> Trusty Woods. Hi.

[1:33:29] » Thank you.

[1:33:30] >> The fee schedule is officially adopted

[1:33:33] by vote of course

[1:33:36] final version tomorrow.

[1:33:38] >> Uh no Monday. Okay. Um bills. Who's got

[1:33:42] the bills?

[1:33:48] I can go grab the

[1:33:50] >> number

[1:33:52] on the agenda with the correct amount.

[1:33:55] >> Who's saying it?

[1:33:56] >> I don't mean go get

[1:33:57] >> I make a motion to approve bill badge

[1:34:00] number 8576

[1:34:02] now to 221,26.36.

[1:34:07] Second favor.

[1:34:09] >> I anything notable on that batch?

[1:34:12] >> Insurance

[1:34:18] motion to adjurnn.

[1:34:20] >> All in favor?

[1:34:21] >> I

[1:34:25] thank you everybody.

Board of Trustees, Regular Monthly Meeting, August 12, 2026, 6:00 PM

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