[0:00] Yes, sir.

[0:00] Mm-hmm.

[0:01] All right.

[0:03] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the

[0:08] Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and

[0:14] justice for all.

[0:24] Hi Alex, I'm Rich Aimpola. This is the Board of Fire Commissioners.

[0:27] We interface between the village board and the firehouse, the chief, the captain,

[0:33] and the other officers.

[0:36] That is our job here. We accept you in, we

[0:42] take you off the rolls when you leave if you do stuff like that.

[0:47] Commissioner Hahn can speak a little on his own.

[0:50] Welcome. Thank you for joining the fire company.

[0:52] It's a solemn responsibility to be able to help others, especially our community

[0:57] during times of need. We're very fortunate we don't get many fires in our community

[1:01] but our community has a great need for what we're able to provide, and that's help

[1:06] during times of crisis whether it may be a flood or smoke investigation, carbon

[1:11] monoxide lift assists during medical calls.

[1:15] So it's a really important role that you're able to help fulfill, and it's great to

[1:18] have some youth involved because it helps ease the burden on the older members.

[1:22] So thanks for joining.

[1:25] Commissioner Armatash?

[1:26] I welcome you to us. First couple things you should remember,

[1:32] family comes first, school comes, religion, and then the fire

[1:37] department.

[1:40] You're joining a great group of men and women that serve the village, and we

[1:46] welcome you here.

[1:49] Thank you. Do you have any questions for us?

[1:54] No. There might be out of ignorance ones but besides, I think I am

[2:00] committed. I cannot leave. There are no stupid questions, only ones that you don't

[2:04] ask. Chief, would you like to... anything to say to Alex?

[2:08] No, we've spoken about the commitment to the department and the time and

[2:14] effort that has to be put in place. So as long as we continue with that, we'll be

[2:20] all right. Right.

[2:24] Okay. Copy that. Okay. Cap, anything?

[2:28] Nope.

[2:28] Thank you. So you're welcome to stick around.

[2:31] We have business to cover that concerns the fire department but you don't have to

[2:35] stay by all means.

[2:39] We do have to make a motion. Correct. Wonderful.

[2:42] I make a motion we accept.

[2:43] Second.

[2:44] All right, so we're making a motion to accept you as a member of the Village of

[2:48] Coram and Holtsville Fire Department.

[2:52] Let's go here. We'll go this and this.

[2:58] Any discussion?

[3:00] All right. All in favor?

[3:02] Aye.

[3:02] Any opposed? All right. We've accepted you as a probationary member of the Coram

[3:07] and Holtsville Fire Department. Thank you. Now you're free to go.

[3:17] Mm-hmm.

[3:22] All right. I sent the minutes out from the June meeting.

[3:26] Hopefully you had a chance to review them.

[3:29] I make a motion we accept.

[3:30] Second.

[3:31] Okay.

[3:34] Any discussion on the minutes? All in favor?

[3:37] Aye.

[3:38] Aye.

[3:38] Any opposed? Wonderful.

[3:42] Take care.

[3:44] So up first is membership

[3:50] report. We have a June membership report

[3:56] that the Captain sent to us.

[3:59] You guys will have one too. If not again, I made one but I

[4:05] don't have an August one handy on me.

[4:10] We emailed about two members coming off probation tentatively within the company

[4:15] next week at the company trustees meeting.

[4:20] Probationary firefighter Bain signed up for the VFO course

[4:25] while a couple other probies were

[4:30] moving through their probationary sheet and are working towards getting them signed

[4:34] up for Firefighter One. And then the active members, a couple of us are

[4:40] signed up for a basic vehicle passenger rescue course held at the Highland Company

[4:47] in September. Other than that there's nothing to add.

[4:53] Okay. Thank you.

[4:54] What about the members that resigned?

[4:58] They were accepted last night that they resigned.

[5:01] You should got an email or something from the secretary.

[5:05] Who is the secretary? Gloria Marino. Ms. Harris.

[5:10] Anyway, so last night Kyle Patterson and Tyler Delovo sent in their formal

[5:16] resignations within the company.

[5:20] Now obviously you can't be a member of the department without being a member of the

[5:25] company just so

[5:29] you guys are aware. They were supposed to send a memo. It might be coming later on.

[5:34] There was a quick turnaround from last night to today.

[5:35] So

[5:38] I don't really know if you guys need to take a vote on it.

[5:41] Any outstanding stuff out on him? Tyler has

[5:47] some equipment for the company and I think a department pager but we've been in

[5:52] touch with his family and we're going to get that.

[5:54] They both moved out of state.

[5:56] Make a motion we accept and let the chief and the captain follow through with the

[6:02] return of equipment.

[6:05] Second, with thanks for your service.

[6:07] So the motion's gonna be to rescind membership for Kyle Patterson and Tyler

[6:12] DeLillo. Would that be correct? Mm-hmm. Okay amended.

[6:19] I had Charles Noller on the list too.

[6:22] Has he already been addressed by the company? Yeah.

[6:28] He resigned a while back.

[6:34] I don't know exactly-- I don't think we took action on it, so I gotta amend.

[6:39] Didn't we give him a leave of absence?

[6:41] No, that was Wade. Charles resigned in June.

[6:46] That's the father though, right? Okay. I make a motion we accept it.

[6:50] We'll just yeah we amend it to add Charles.

[6:55] Luke Kapsak.

[6:58] Old news right? That's over a year ago.

[7:00] Well, I couldn't find anything in the minutes so we're going to add him anyway.

[7:03] Over a year? Yeah, haven't seen- okay well I didn't find anything in the

[7:09] minutes. I don't think we ever addressed it.

[7:12] He did give a formal resignation from within the company and - Company acted on it?

[7:17] Yeah. Mm-hmm. And you're waiting on Danes?

[7:21] Yeah. I got notification out to him.

[7:23] Obviously he's got a duty station in Korea so responding to alarms and drills will

[7:28] be a little bit difficult for him.

[7:30] We'll have to move forward with that.

[7:32] Will we wait until after the company makes a decision? Yeah.

[7:34] Well, we'll be back and forth talking to him.

[7:37] And he's made it known that he does not intend on coming back to live in the area.

[7:42] Okay.

[7:45] We brought up Wade. Did he return? Just out of curiosity. He did.

[7:49] Okay thank you. Alright. The motion rescinding

[7:56] membership for Charles Noler, Kyle Patterson, Lou Capsack who we missed, and Tyler

[8:02] DeLillo. And that went to a second. We've had discussion. All in favor?

[8:07] Aye.

[8:07] Wonderful. Thank you.

[8:10] Make a note.

[8:22] Monthly department reports: we have June and

[8:28] July.

[8:32] Let me get back to June.

[8:34] I have copies if you want to refer to them. No, I have them right here.

[8:42] Just to get back to June, we did apply for the

[8:47] FEMA Assistance to Firefighters Grant for new air packs.

[8:52] We applied for approximately $224,000.

[8:58] This is the third time that we've applied for this grant I believe in the last four

[9:04] to five years.

[9:07] We've been turned down the other two times.

[9:12] This will be successful. One of the hiccups with the application is the

[9:17] village's sam.gov account has to be updated.

[9:24] Before I retired, I spoke with the village clerk and the mayor, they're aware of

[9:27] it,

[9:29] and they were going to be working on it.

[9:31] But it has to be updated before we can be awarded any funding.

[9:36] Now, Chief, how many air packs is this for?

[9:40] I will defer to the captain on that. He did the count.

[9:43] So we started off with 33. That was taking into account the

[9:49] upcoming pumper tanker. We redid the numbers, reran, I think we're down to 28 or

[9:55] 27. That includes three air packs for training.

[10:00] So all seats will have some. They will be

[10:06] in regulation with the county's mutual aid plan, and we'll have something for

[10:10] members to take out to training. Right now we have packs that get taken out of

[10:14] service solely to take classes, and that leaves seat somebody with airbags.

[10:20] It does not include-

[10:21] What was the number? There's 28.

[10:23] Correct. Yeah. It does not include bottles for the air packs because over the years

[10:28] when Commissioner Armitage was chief and whatnot, we started rotation, so we were

[10:32] able to replace the bottles which are compatible with the new

[10:38] packs. That alone will save about $60,000.

[10:43] However, we are going to include new face pieces.

[10:49] We had the AV-2000s.

[10:52] Yeah. So a couple years ago, Scott discontinued our face piece.

[10:58] They had a sunset period of a couple years.

[11:01] I think next year is the last you can get parts for them.

[11:04] But with reducing the number of air packs, that will allow us to purchase new face

[11:10] pieces that are in compliance with today's standards.

[11:13] And what we found during the last fit testing, those older face pieces are so

[11:18] old that the rubbers dry rot a little bit and are no longer able to keep a good

[11:23] seal.

[11:25] Whether or not we get the new air packs, we got to start replacing the face pieces.

[11:29] Okay.

[11:32] That's about it for

[11:35] the June report.

[11:38] Do we need to accept them one at a time or... We don't have to.

[11:42] We'll accept both of them when you're done with July.

[11:44] Yep.

[11:47] July, just a couple ones there that we had a structure fire at 14 Cornwall Ave.

[11:54] We were very fortunate that call came in at two o'clock on a Sunday in July

[12:00] when most of our younger members are home from college, and some of our senior

[12:06] members are at home and not working.

[12:09] We were able to respond pretty quickly and get the fire knocked down.

[12:13] Actually, we had the fire knocked down before the mutual aid that we had requested

[12:19] arrived on scene.

[12:22] A question came up about our use of mutual aid for that call.

[12:27] Just so the board's aware, the whole village is preplanned

[12:33] for building fires. The captain, the assistant chief, worked several

[12:39] days updating that plan.

[12:42] And that plan for residential buildings is based upon whether the house

[12:48] is 800 square feet or 8,000 square feet.

[12:52] You're getting the same resources when you have an active fire.

[12:57] So that's why when you see the robust response,

[13:03] it's not necessarily indicative of the size of the building or the extent, it's

[13:09] just that's our standard for a second alarm fire.

[13:13] And I will note that response was also just, I believe it was one

[13:19] unit more than what the city of Newburgh gets for their fires, and that's because

[13:23] we have a dedicated fast team.

[13:25] Chief, were there any departments in your mutual aid plan that weren't able to

[13:28] respond?

[13:29] There was.

[13:32] but yeah.

[13:33] That plan compensates enough with that consideration.

[13:36] Correct.

[13:37] I will say that the company or the department that wasn't able to respond is

[13:40] because the request apparatus was out of service.

[13:45] Okay. Great. Thank you.

[13:47] All right. Also in July, we went to a carbon monoxide emergency over at

[13:52] the

[13:54] Curie Road Apartments.

[13:57] You'll notice that the levels were upwards of 700 parts per million, which is a

[14:02] pretty lethal dose.

[14:06] When that occurs, that's another example of

[14:11] the importance of having up-to-date equipment with the SCBAs, because not only do

[14:16] we use them for house fires, building fires, car fires, but when we run into

[14:21] hazardous conditions such as that, they get used as well.

[14:27] Let's see.

[14:30] And I started making note of our response times.

[14:34] Our average response time in July was eight minutes 32 seconds.

[14:37] That's from the time that 911 gets the call; like that's right when they pick up

[14:42] the phone. It's before they dispatch us.

[14:45] To arrive on scene within eight minutes, and that's including two mutual aid fires

[14:49] to the Cornwall Fire Department in Salisbury Mills, which was a considerably

[14:53] lengthier response time

[14:55] because of the distance.

[14:56] Both responses are included in that 8:32.

[15:04] And that is it.

[15:07] Any questions for the chief? I just have two comments about the report.

[15:11] First, the fire.

[15:14] You probably didn't know, but I went down and I did watch the operation.

[15:18] I stayed away from the professionals that were doing it,

[15:24] and I commend.

[15:29] I also heard a lot of complaints about the mutual aid that was coming, and

[15:35] basically my answer to him is that you don't know how it feels when you're there

[15:41] and you have a fire, what's going to happen, what's going to happen next.

[15:46] So always would say it's better to have more and you can send them back. Mm-hmm.

[15:51] So I had no heartburn with that. With the Curie Road apartments, I don't know if

[15:56] you're aware that they have a new manager that took over- Yeah ..as of September 1.

[16:02] I had to deal with him on some issues because my house had a couple trees go down,

[16:06] and they were very cooperative. So I think if you have any issues he's

[16:12] going to be pretty well on top of it.

[16:15] We did have an issue for that carbon monoxide alarm where a couple of the

[16:21] residents made comments that, "See, this is why you shouldn't called 911."

[16:26] Just a couple uncooperative residents of the building because they were

[16:31] inconvenienced of having to be evacuated and whatnot.

[16:35] And also some housekeeping items that we've spoken with the building department

[16:39] about.

[16:42] In terms of that call on

[16:45] Cornwall Avenue, I had spoken to Commissioner Hanon about the mutual aid as well.

[16:49] And then thing that I will point out is if anybody has any questions about our use

[16:54] of mutual aid or our response to any alarms, everybody has my

[17:00] cell phone number. Pick up the phone and call me.

[17:05] It's a little bit disheartening to hear it coming secondhand from the commissioners

[17:10] rather than having somebody coming to me directly.

[17:14] Understood.

[17:17] I feel the same way. I make a motion we accept the reports.

[17:20] Second.

[17:22] Sounds good. Thank you. Any discussion? All in favor?

[17:26] Aye. Aye.

[17:27] Thank you. Budget reports. I sent-

[17:30] On to August.

[17:32] Oh, okay. We don't have it.

[17:34] I sent it to you. I sent it yesterday. Yesterday.

[17:39] Jess please do August.

[17:42] Alright, so August we had

[17:45] 20 events, 122.73 volunteer hours.

[17:49] Six of them were automatic alarms, three of which came in from the Old Hudson

[17:52] Valley Food Bank. We had a little bit of a problem there

[17:56] with their alarm system unable to reset it.

[17:58] The other issue that we had was

[18:01] the alarm company had no key holders on their list to come out at two o'clock in

[18:07] the morning each day to reset it. So we were able to silence it, and

[18:13] then each day, 24 hours would go by and it would go off again.

[18:19] So we spoke to the alarm company on Monday. I spoke to them.

[18:22] They've corrected that

[18:25] They now have a key holder list. And what it was, it was a water flow alarm.

[18:30] The compressor had burnt up for it.

[18:33] But again, we could only silence it. We weren't able to reset it.

[18:38] 413 is out of service.

[18:43] Thanks to Commissioner Hahn, we were able to locate a service company up in Lake

[18:46] Katrine, Premier Fire Apparatus.

[18:48] They're an E-One dealer, but they service all types of apparatus manufacturers.

[18:55] I was up there yesterday dropping a part off to them.

[18:59] I expect that somebody will be getting a phone call possibly tomorrow about it

[19:03] being completed so we can get it back here either over the weekend or early part of

[19:07] next week. By all reports, the maintenance is going well.

[19:14] They did tell me yesterday when they see an American LaFrance coming in, they

[19:19] cringe when they see it because they just don't know if they'll be able to get

[19:23] parts for it. But our American LaFrance is in good shape.

[19:29] They're making some necessary repairs to it.

[19:32] The one hydraulic repair, they're going to get us an estimate on that and they're

[19:36] going to get us an estimate on rebuilding the elevation cylinders.

[19:40] And also, they gave us a ballpark price; if we wanted to do a full

[19:46] refurbishment on it, it would be $1 million.

[19:49] But according to them, that's only buying you seven to 10 years.

[19:52] And again, it's an American LaFrance, so if you have any

[19:58] catastrophic failures with the cab or chassis, you're not going to be able to get

[20:03] the parts. So, but the ladder and everything's in good shape.

[20:08] So that was that.

[20:12] Pumper tanker, that's been pushed back to delivery in January.

[20:17] They had a tornado out by Pierce Fire Appliance plant.

[20:20] That's delayed some of the apparatus that was in front of it.

[20:25] So it's been pushed back a few weeks into January.

[20:29] So that's where we stand with that.

[20:32] That's all on that. Chief, I do have a question . Excuse me.

[20:37] With the food bank, it's under new ownership right? Yep.

[20:42] Who maintains the contact list and ensures that the Knox Box works? Yeah.

[20:48] It's strange. It's one building right?

[20:50] But their former code enforcement officer,

[20:54] Mr. Carmony required that each business have a separate alarm system.

[21:00] So even if you're in the new section-- Well, not new section.

[21:04] Where Sallyander is and that alarm's going off, if you're in the front half, you

[21:09] have no idea that alarm's going off because they have it sectioned off.

[21:13] I don't know why. They tell me there's only one stairwell that

[21:19] leads from one section to the other.

[21:21] In my mind, you would want the alarm to go off for both.

[21:26] So there's two separate

[21:30] keyholder lists, and I believe it's two separate alarm companies.

[21:36] So that's where we stand with that.

[21:38] Have you been in contact with the new building inspector to find maybe a better

[21:43] path forward? Not on that one particularly, no. Thank you.

[21:49] Where is 413? What's the name of the company? Premier Fire Apparatus. Okay.

[21:58] All right. We're amending the

[22:01] motion to include August. I missed it, I apologize.

[22:05] No worries.

[22:08] You're still riding your bike.

[22:10] Budget

[22:12] June and July was sent. July being

[22:19] a draft.

[22:22] If you had a chance to look at them, I don't know if there's any questions on them.

[22:29] Okay.

[22:31] I will note, I looked at them. Mm-hmm.

[22:36] When we get to t’other memo, but there seems to be about $150,000 in

[22:42] funding available for firematic equipment and expenses and about $50,000

[22:49] for firehouse maintenance.

[22:51] To commissioner Hahn's point about the maintenance items, there seems to be some

[22:56] money there that we can maybe jumpstart on some of those items,

[23:02] get that plan moving ahead.

[23:08] Is there any intent to buy some air packs

[23:13] before you hear from the grant?

[23:16] If we purchase them before the grant then are no longer eligible to be reimbursed

[23:19] by the grant.

[23:21] And when...What's the...?

[23:24] We're hoping to hear by January. The last time that I spoke with Mayor Kane, and

[23:30] this goes back several months,and it was not

[23:34] meeting setting or anything, but he did say that they were thinking about trying to

[23:39] purchase air packs through the bond for the pumper tankers.

[23:45] I don't know where that stands.

[23:47] Do we have a backup plan?

[23:48] Yes..

[23:49] Right now you don't have enough correct for the new truck, the new pumper tanker?.

[23:53] We do.

[23:55] Because we're going to be taking some off of -

[23:58] Oh, four. Yeah okay

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[27:41] And they did this year, I believe it's in the budget this year, put $100,000 into

[27:46] the capital reserve for fire apparatus.

[27:48] And I think that was their plan each year but I don't want to speak for them.

[27:54] It's good financial planning.

[27:56] Mm-hmm. Yeah and to that point,

[28:01] shortly after the Wilbur report was issued

[28:06] we had a financial plan put together that planned out the next 30 to 40

[28:12] years of purchases for fire apparatus.

[28:16] It took into account different prepayments, cash and bonding and

[28:21] bands. And I think the idea of that was to take

[28:27] into account the pumper tanker, the replacement of the tower ladder, and the

[28:31] replacement of the squad coming up.

[28:34] And I think at the 15-year mark of that plan, the bond payment for all of that

[28:40] would have been $345,000 annually.

[28:43] That was what the plan was, the financial plan that we had put forward.

[28:48] Again, that would give you 15 years to plan for that payment while still updating

[28:53] the equipment.

[28:54] Chief, you mentioned previously in our conversations offline about some sort of

[29:01] revolving fund to be able to enjoy maximum interest available

[29:08] on those types of capital-

[29:10] Yep

[29:10] ... funds your reserve funds. Can you speak to that?

[29:13] I can a little bit. Again, I think your best source for that would be the

[29:16] treasurer.

[29:19] So the village is a participant in the NYCLASS as

[29:25] is many municipalities and school districts.

[29:29] You can place your liquid funds in that, and this is a very

[29:35] short explanation of my understanding of it.

[29:38] We put your funds in there and you gain interest.

[29:41] At one point it was up to like 4% interest.

[29:45] But it's also liquid so if you need it tomorrow you can pull it out.

[29:49] I don't know how much of the funding that they have that's earmarked for the fire

[29:54] department apparatus that's in there,

[29:57] but it is certainly something to consider.

[30:01] I know a lot of school districts, they put all their funds in there right when they

[30:05] get the money and they just pull it as they need it because they're earning good

[30:08] interest on it.

[30:10] Yeah. I think that'd be to our benefit for our long term financial plan ensure that

[30:14] we're getting that interest.

[30:16] Correct.

[30:17] Thank you.

[30:20] Anyone else on budget?

[30:25] All right Chief Traynor thank you for your memo.

[30:30] Would you like to

[30:32] speak about it?

[30:33] Yeah. We don't have to go through it verbatim.

[30:36] Just wanted to update the Village Board and the board of commissioners where we

[30:39] stand with different items around the firehouse. We touched on a few of it already.

[30:44] Squad 411 we had some repairs done to that.

[30:49] That went over to Campbell Supply in Maybrook. It was there for a few days.

[30:55] There is a part that they had to order.

[30:59] I assume they've probably gotten it by now but we haven't heard from them and we

[31:02] would have to follow up with them so it's going to have to go back out for

[31:06] additional maintenance.

[31:09] One of the things that kind of dovetails into that is the fire

[31:15] department utility vehicle typically speaking, when one of the engines are out of

[31:21] service 415 the tanker becomes the backup.

[31:25] And right now the tanker we have is only a two man cab so we would use the utility

[31:31] to supplement that manpower for that but the utility is

[31:37] currently on loan to the building department.

[31:41] I think we started that back in April or May. I spoke to the mayor.

[31:47] The mayor assured maybe a 60 or 90 day loan so I'm not sure where that stands.

[31:53] One of the things that we also use that for is training; when the members go out to

[31:58] training or for rehab purposes such as the fire down

[32:03] on Bayview-- Or I'm sorry Cornwall Avenue.

[32:07] We used that to bring coolers down and whatnot.

[32:11] The members if they go out now to training they use their own vehicles and for the

[32:16] fire we had personal vehicles bring that down.

[32:19] I think that's probably more of a liability insurance wise.

[32:21] God forbid you get in an accident, you're in your own vehicle workers comp and all

[32:26] that good stuff.

[32:28] Chief, are we able to reimburse the members for their personal use of the vehicles?

[32:31] We are yes.

[32:32] Mileage wise? Thank you.

[32:37] So that's 411. Four one three,

[32:41] we covered that earlier. Once we get the evaluation back then we're gonna reconvene

[32:46] with the village board at some point hopefully this fall.

[32:49] My expectation is this fall to try and get a firm answer as to whether or not

[32:55] we're keeping what we have buying a refurbished rig, buying used,

[33:01] buying new, but we need to have a direction of some sort so that we can plan

[33:06] accordingly.

[33:08] The new pumper tanker we spoke about that.

[33:12] It looks like we have about

[33:16] $43,000 worth of needs equipment that has to go on there.

[33:21] I believe that was also in the memo I attached. A list of all that equipment.

[33:27] We've done our due diligence. We went out and gotten price quotes on everything.

[33:31] The captain's done his homework on that.

[33:34] So we're looking for some guidance about purchasing of that.

[33:37] It's our belief that we can purchase that out of the

[33:41] regular operating budget

[33:44] but we just need to confirm that you guys are ready to move forward with those

[33:48] purchases.

[33:52] Typically there's about $130,000 worth of equipment that is required to be on

[33:57] there whether that's to meet NFPA standards or just simply the Orange County Mutual

[34:02] Aid standards for pumper tankers but 90,000 of that we're able to

[34:09] reuse equipment from existing apparatuses and also some of that is the air packs.

[34:13] We're waiting to hear back on them.

[34:17] With the new pumper tanker coming the village is going to have to decide on how to

[34:22] dispose of engine 412 and tanker 415 Whether or not they wanna hire a broker to

[34:28] sell it do it through auction. Whether or not they wanna keep them.

[34:33] I would imagine we wanna keep at least one of them Maybe the engine initially until

[34:38] we get the new pumper tanker fully in service and we don't have any issues with it

[34:44] but that is something we're going to have to look at doing and there's gonna be

[34:47] some revenue from those sales

[34:52] which is gonna-- particularly the tanker could be significant.

[35:00] SCBA replacement we covered that a little bit earlier.

[35:04] Like I said we can't buy any of that yet until FEMA says yes or no on a grant.

[35:11] I explicitly asked that question if we could purchase that and use the money if we

[35:16] receive the grant and they said no.

[35:18] They would have to be purchased after receiving the grant.

[35:21] Chief uh what's the timeline for expected answer on award?

[35:25] I'm not quite sure. I know technical review was supposed to start this month.

[35:29] I would imagine probably November December he'll start rolling them out.

[35:35] And do you have a lead time on new air packs?

[35:37] Is there any type of supply complications there related?

[35:40] I'll defer to the captain on that.

[35:43] It will probably be about three months.

[35:45] Three months okay.

[35:46] Yup

[35:50] let's see

[35:53] and those air packs are 22 years old and again we were fortunate

[35:59] enough to purchase them with a FEMA grant way back in '04-'05.

[36:06] We are looking at fire ground radios. We're trying to standardize our radios.

[36:11] A lot of what we're using is over 25 years old

[36:17] If we purchase air packs either through a bond or a municipal lease or

[36:22] somehow ever we may do that then I think we can probably start replacing the radios

[36:27] with

[36:30] operating budget monies

[36:32] but I just don't want to do that if we're going to end up purchasing air packs

[36:37] using the budget moneys

[36:42] LOSAP.

[36:46] The gentleman from there, Mr. Perrett,

[36:50] he's called me a couple of times. He's looking for himself to come up and meet with

[36:55] the village leadership to go over the program. He's asked for a couple meetings.

[37:02] He's having difficulty scheduling those meetings.

[37:06] He thinks that using that opportunity, he can

[37:11] probably save the village some money by allowing him some latitude in terms

[37:17] of investing that money into LOSAP.

[37:20] And also, there's been some changeover in staff here, and he thinks it might be

[37:24] beneficial to have a one-on-one discussion with them so they

[37:29] understand what to expect from Hometown.

[37:33] Sure. Chief, would it be beneficial to bring him to the commissioners meeting and

[37:36] invite maybe a few of the Village Board members here if they're not able to

[37:40] accommodate at the Village board?

[37:42] Sure. I can certainly reach out to him and ask him to come on up.

[37:46] I'm certain he will.

[37:48] He tries to schedule his meetings around his other clients when he's up this way.

[37:53] The only thing I would caution is when you invite the Village Board, if you have

[37:56] three of them here, it's a special meeting for them as well.

[37:59] Of course.

[37:59] Could he attend a work session?

[38:01] He could. I'm sure he would.

[38:04] To my brain, that almost seems more beneficial to them because they're there

[38:08] anyway.

[38:08] Exactly. Nope, that's an option.

[38:14] Fire department facility maintenance.

[38:17] As Commissioner Lahann alluded to offline there, we did have a meeting with

[38:23] Superintendent Craft.

[38:25] We did start putting down some ideas of what needs

[38:31] to, going forward. Obviously, in the forefront of everybody's mind right now is

[38:37] the catastrophic failure or fire that Coldenham had at their firehouse.

[38:43] That's why sprinklers are one of the items on the list.

[38:47] I think sprinklers are very advantageous, but I think we have a lot of items that

[38:52] have to be on that list. As Commissioner Lahann and I have spoken quite a bit,

[38:58] over the course of about 10 to 15 years, we lost several of our members to cancer,

[39:05] which nobody wants to see that, but a lot of those cancers are now

[39:11] being tied back to firefighting activities.

[39:16] So I think there's things that we have to keep in mind for personnel safety as well

[39:21] as apparatus safety, station safety.

[39:24] We spoke about creating a comprehensive plan, possibly bringing the company in

[39:30] to develop that plan with us,

[39:34] and just start pecking away at these things, a couple items a year.

[39:39] But as he alluded to, there's some low-hanging fruit that can be taken care of

[39:42] relatively quick.

[39:49] Training stipend. Last year, the village approved the training stipend

[39:55] for the local courses that

[40:01] we take that the state doesn't pay for.

[40:03] I believe they authorized $10,000 in December for that.

[40:09] However, the code states that

[40:11] the budget for training stipends will be set annually through resolution of the

[40:16] Village Board.

[40:18] When we spoke, I don't know, Rick, were you with us when we had

[40:24] a meeting with the mayor about the budget?

[40:26] And we proposed $10,000 for the

[40:30] training stipend this year, and I just noticed it myself

[40:36] a month or two ago, that line item is not in the budget.

[40:39] So I don't know if they expect us to pay for it out of our operating budget, which

[40:42] we could, or do we need them to have a resolution?

[40:49] How do we move forward with that? Just need some guidance because we do have a

[40:53] couple of courses. The class is coming up in September for accident vehicle

[40:57] extrication. That would be eligible for a local stipend.

[41:00] So just need to get some clarification as to where that stands.

[41:09] And then utility vehicle, we touched on that earlier.

[41:14] One of the suggestions that Commissioner Hein had was maybe purchase a new

[41:20] utility for the fire department. The 2022 chief's vehicle was paid

[41:26] off, as far as I understand. And I believe the '23 will be paid off here, if

[41:32] not this year, then next. So it might be an idea to possibly buy

[41:37] another utility. If we do a utility, it would be a pickup truck or something,

[41:44] but that's open to whatever everybody's ideas were.

[41:48] And we could probably absorb that through the budget with our annual payment, just

[41:53] like the chiefs' cars.

[41:57] And that is it on the memo.

[42:02] Thank you for that and all the time that you put into it.

[42:05] Yes.

[42:06] And just to be clear, we're discussing, I need some guidance from somebody.

[42:12] I've not heard back from anybody. I'm just looking to move things forward.

[42:19] I'd like to make a motion that we send

[42:24] communication to the Village Board recommending that the fire department

[42:31] be able to purchase that $43,000 of equipment for the new

[42:36] tanker out of its operating budget.

[42:41] Also, in that memo, I would like to make a motion that

[42:48] we pursue a purchase of a utility vehicle,

[42:55] at the discretion of the officers of what type that would be,

[43:00] and that payment would come out of the operating budget.

[43:06] Since they really haven't done anything with the vehicle that has been given to the

[43:10] building department, which they said 60 to 90 days, I think that needs to be

[43:16] acted on because of liabilities and safety concerns regarding members driving

[43:21] personal vehicles to

[43:24] training and whatever they need to do. So I think we should do that.

[43:30] Make that motion. And also, in that, I like to make it that they schedule

[43:36] an

[43:37] appointment with this service award consultant at a workshop to go

[43:43] over his options regarding our plan that we have for the village and

[43:49] any ideas for the future.

[43:52] Yeah, and just to be clear on the LOSAP plan, right now it's underfunded.

[43:56] Yeah, I saw that.

[43:57] It's not by a lot.

[43:58] A thousand bucks or something.

[43:59] Yeah, it's a couple of thousand dollars.

[44:01] Yeah.

[44:02] But he believes that he can

[44:05] make a lot of that up by reinvesting it through a different fund.

[44:09] So the question, the money that's in there for investment in the

[44:15] amount, do you have any idea what it is?

[44:18] It's getting like 4%.

[44:20] No. What-- Is there 300,000?

[44:24] Oh, I don't know.

[44:25] See, I think that's something...

[44:26] I don't know. I think it's what the village has contributed the last few years.

[44:31] So understand that the original program is separate.

[44:34] I think in that program there, there's maybe $250,000.

[44:40] But still, there's money in it.

[44:42] Yep.

[44:42] Okay.

[44:43] And that's the one that's being closed out,

[44:46] as some of our more senior guys age out.

[44:51] The new plan, I think, has probably got three years worth of payments in it.

[44:55] Yeah.

[44:56] And typically what he does with his fire district customers-

[45:01] The big fire districts are making-

[45:03] Yeah

[45:04] ... They're making money. Yeah.

[45:05] He generally gets some document signed off on

[45:11] by the authority having jurisdiction.

[45:15] For us, that would be the village authorizing him to make money adjustments,

[45:20] movements to increase the interest.

[45:22] And also in that memo, a clarification to find out how the training

[45:28] stipends and where it's going to be paid from.

[45:34] I think that ties back to the budget question.

[45:39] Oh, yeah. Okay.

[45:41] Maybe it could be one memo.

[45:42] Whatever. Would this be coming out of theThe chief's budget, is it coming

[45:48] out of a separate budget? Mike said there was discussion of

[45:52] $10,000. Has anybody received the stipend as of date?

[45:58] No, actually, we had some problems with the state.

[46:01] We submitted three stipends for the state program for Firefighter One.

[46:09] One of them was received, the other two were not.

[46:12] I followed up a couple weeks ago and I spoke to a woman up there, I think her name

[46:18] was Nina,

[46:21] and she said no, we didn't get the other two but we have firefighter Sweeney's

[46:25] ready to go out.

[46:28] So I resubmitted everybody else's. It's a slow process.

[46:32] Takes anywhere from eight to nine weeks once you submit-

[46:35] It's the state

[46:36] ...and I think initially they were having some trouble on their end

[46:43] gathering all this information because they have a special W9 that you have to use.

[46:48] You can't use a standard W9. But we have a good understanding on the state right

[46:53] now, at least I do, of what form's required.

[46:57] And in addition to the stipend paperwork, there's also other forms that the

[47:02] department has to certify each year.

[47:06] The fire department demographics, as well as submitting their incident reports

[47:11] every year. If you don't complete either of that then you don't get your stipends.

[47:17] So that's some ongoing admin that has to be completed annually.

[47:23] I assume the secretary is supporting the fire department with some of those record

[47:28] keeping requirements?

[47:30] Yes. So we're working on that as well.

[47:32] Assistant Chief Calamari and I, we spoke about getting some duties together for

[47:38] that secretary and he's putting that stuff in writing and whatnot.

[47:42] His memo stated that she's looking for stuff so-

[47:45] She is. She is. So we're going to start with the annual physicals, and we're just

[47:50] going to ramp it up.

[47:51] Excellent.

[47:52] Sorry. That's the motion.

[47:54] Second on the motion to transmit the letter to the village board with all the

[47:58] aforementioned items from Commissioner Armitage.

[48:02] Any further discussion?

[48:06] Who's writing the memo?

[48:08] The chairman

[48:11] .

[48:11] Send me a draft.

[48:14] All in favor?

[48:15] Aye.

[48:16] Any opposed?

[48:22] Hot off the presses and an add to the new business is the letter from

[48:28] President Voight

[48:31] on firehouse use. A lot of good questions that I don't have answers to.

[48:41] Presents.

[48:50] Is this--

[48:55] So what do you commissioners think? How should this be handled? I don't...

[49:00] In my opinion, previous use of the firehouse would go through

[49:06] the fire company to look for sponsorship and that sponsorship would

[49:12] then

[49:14] tie into members to be able to support the event or work in coordination with the

[49:20] event host.

[49:22] So I think there needs to be better communication so whereas if the

[49:28] village does get a request of use for the firehouse, that the first call should be

[49:33] to the president and set up a coordination call with the party who is requesting

[49:38] use of the firehouse and then work forward as far as any resources that are

[49:44] needed from the fire company or from the village to get that event

[49:48] make it happen. There's a lot of concerns that I think are

[49:54] completely valid in the memo and it can be

[49:58] easily coordinated and

[50:04] make sure the event is successful, not too heavy a lift for our limited resources

[50:09] with our volunteers. There are events in the village that have a lot of

[50:15] robust employees from the village supporting and perhaps there is an

[50:21] opportunity to have additional support to ease some of these scheduling conflicts

[50:25] that everyone has especially during the summer months.

[50:28] I could see some conflicts with that and competing priorities.

[50:36] Thank you.

[50:45] Going to personal support.

[50:50] So I don't see the need for the company to

[50:57] operationally support the event though

[51:03] the apparatus has to be moved and we really don't want anyone else doing that.

[51:08] Where do they go? They go in the parking lot, right?

[51:14] There are a ton of

[51:18] valid points,

[51:20] especially security

[51:25] and personal property.

[51:28] Chief how would you suggest handling this with the village?

[51:31] Because I know they probably just think it's just "Just do it, we're having an

[51:36] event."

[51:37] Yeah.

[51:37] Kind of the way it's been.

[51:39] So to your point it is the way it's been for many years.

[51:44] And a lot of times in the past the use of the facilities went through the fire

[51:49] company president as commissioner Han alluded to,

[51:54] and the village wasn't involved. But it is a village facility so they need to be on

[51:59] the same communication level as the fire company in terms of coordinating these

[52:05] things.

[52:08] In the past,

[52:10] and I'm sure Commissioner Armitage can attest to, it's not just moving the

[52:14] apparatus it's making sure that your truck floor is tidied up for people

[52:20] coming and going. It's the night before letting people in to drop off supplies.

[52:26] It's getting there early in the morning moving the trucks out helping them set up

[52:30] their tables and whatnot,

[52:33] helping remove the trash at the end of the day and putting the apparatus back.

[52:39] And

[52:42] I don't want to say that we're unwilling, we're just looking for an open line of

[52:46] communication so we can schedule this stuff.

[52:50] And I don't think that we should be relying solely on the volunteers to make this

[52:56] stuff happen.

[52:58] I agree. Just-

[53:00] Because-

[53:00] But then who?

[53:01] Exactly. Just last week Vales Gate had a wet down for their

[53:07] new ladder truck and obviously we were invited to attend but our drivers and our

[53:13] officers they were unavailable. They were out doing whatever they were doing

[53:18] spending time with their family.

[53:22] So it's not like we have a robust pool of individuals

[53:29] that are willing to commit six hours of their day on a Sunday to

[53:35] monitor the operation there.

[53:42] What do you think? Can we handle this?

[53:46] I would say it'd have to be a joint meeting between the village, the

[53:52] sponsor and a representative from the fire department and they can see what

[53:58] the FD can do, what the village wants to do.

[54:03] This event would need additional police officers

[54:09] that's a village expense, so I think it'd have to be a joint meeting between all.

[54:15] And I agree what Mike said we used to do it because again trying to be community

[54:21] based with whoever was trying to run..

[54:24] I mean the Cornwall Lions Club ran a race there for years and drew huge

[54:30] crowds and yeah there was police officers there but the only ones ever doing it was

[54:35] us the fire department was doing the majority of the work.

[54:38] Not to say that the Lions Club weren't

[54:41] good backs to the fire department they would do stuff for us but it's got to be a

[54:45] joint effort I would say between

[54:48] a representative from the fire department, the village and the organizer of the

[54:54] event to figure out what's going to be done by who

[54:59] And what the village wants, there's insurance

[55:05] matters into it. So the villages have to be on board with it.

[55:11] I think the village requires proof of insurance from the-

[55:14] I believe so, yeah. I would think so. Yeah. And they charge a fee too.

[55:18] Yeah.

[55:19] Also like $500.

[55:20] A fee for it. But again-

[55:24] That simply in my mind that fee should go to the company to offset some

[55:30] of the-

[55:30] Well you have to see what the village is going to commit.

[55:34] Personnel?

[55:35] I'm not paying them personnel and listen whatever and go back to the fire

[55:39] department. Listen, I support wholeheartedly but

[55:44] it might have to be more than $500. Again, that's something the village would have

[55:48] to work out, I think, with the organizer.

[55:53] If they only wanted 500, I would say the 500 should go to the fire department.

[55:57] And if they're going to absorb the cost with the PD or whoever their personnel then

[56:03] that's their responsibility, that's their option.

[56:07] But the fire department should get something out of it because as Mike said night

[56:12] before day listen we've done a lot of them and it takes time and people.

[56:19] So that's my recommendation.

[56:22] It's a tricky and sticky situation, right? So it's a village building.

[56:28] Mm-hmm.

[56:28] Right? Volunteers are there

[56:33] for fire duty related activities.

[56:37] So sure the village can say we're going to use the building but then

[56:42] the volunteers don't-- Are not required to participate.

[56:47] mm-hmm. Again that would have to be-

[56:49] So what are they going to do send the mechanic to move the rigs?

[56:52] What about all the personal stuff?

[56:54] You know s-

[56:55] I think it would have to be a joint conversation between maybe the fire chief and

[57:00] the president of the company, the organizer and somebody from the building.

[57:06] But I think what we're looking for, or what I understand we're looking for is a

[57:12] policy.

[57:12] Policy. Well specific to that building.

[57:16] So the village does have policies, right? For use of their properties.

[57:22] Using that building is much different than using the pavilion at the riverfront.

[57:27] Correct.

[57:30] I think it's some of the same concerns about

[57:33] nobody uses the Village Hall or the Village PD for events or the

[57:39] DPW.

[57:41] and again we're not opposed I agree It's just That's not the point The point is how

[57:46] do we do it How do we do it

[57:49] so that it gets pulled off Um...

[57:53] so you two months because it's the end of October 26th 25th

[58:00] so

[58:01] and this event has happened in the past Right yes Mm-hmm

[58:05] yeah and typically and to be quite honest the the organizer was kind of

[58:11] shocked that they had to go through the Village Hall this year Approach the company

[58:16] were told In the past

[58:19] personally they've approached my wife and whatnot because they're friends

[58:24] um so

[58:29] this

[58:32] President's memo was shared with us present It was not shared with the village

[58:37] board

[58:41] Very well written Is there any reason not to share it with the village board as is?

[58:45] I think we should send it off to the village board but with a memo with our

[58:48] recommendations to establish a coordination uh between all parties that would have

[58:54] a stake in the event first and foremost being the Fire Company

[59:00] and the impact on operations and membership

[59:07] .

[59:15] We

[59:17] fully support the community and all these events and we're unique in that Our fire

[59:22] company is on the main drag so it's hub Of the community People look towards

[59:29] whether it be the tree lighting or a race or Yeah Or

[59:35] whatnot

[59:41] If you recall commissioner This is a conversation that's been going on for A year

[59:47] Year and a half Two years now

[59:54] See thats part of the problem Not just with this one We've been talking about

[59:58] things and There's been no decision made On what they want to do

[1:00:03] Some decision Has to be made On how They're Going To handle

[1:00:09] XYZ Because

[1:00:12] I Agree We talk About it So

[1:00:17] i Say throw it To Them

[1:00:20] Their Building Their Property

[1:00:24] All right

[1:00:27] Anyone Else

[1:00:31] Maybe Kirk Can Do That Memo

[1:00:33] Oh Yep Each Get A Memo One Memo For You Another One For You Another One For You

[1:00:40] Alright Thank You I Appreciate All The Input

[1:00:46] On Dragongoing Business Uh We Covered The Pump And Tanker

[1:00:52] Buildings And Grounds Maintenance

[1:00:57] And The Two

[1:01:00] That Have Been Here Forever Goals And Priorities

[1:01:03] Policies And Guidelines

[1:01:06] Does anyone Have Anything In Addition For Any Of Those

[1:01:12] The thing I would have is how are we going to meet now since we took the summer off

[1:01:17] yep mm-hmm and the village sort of gave guidelines that they didn't think we should

[1:01:21] meet monthly which

[1:01:23] Which thought about and that was started by Rich Gayard He was on the village board

[1:01:27] and we met monthly correct So that Was Why We Were Meeting Monthly

[1:01:32] Correct so

[1:01:35] make a motion that we meet quarterly

[1:01:39] and if any business comes up during that an e-we can have an a meeting scheduled

[1:01:45] Would

[1:01:45] that need to Be Special Meeting Or Just Make The Schedule Quarterly And Then Have

[1:01:51] The Flexibility To Have

[1:01:53] Have The flexibility Between That Quarter Something That Chief

[1:01:58] Has To Bring Up Or Some Emergency Business We Schedule A Meeting And Deal With The

[1:02:04] Issue

[1:02:05] i Think Thats Reasonable Is There Any Notice That We'Re Required To Have As Far As

[1:02:09] The Meeting Goes Like X Amount Of Days Timeline Yes Before We Have The Meeting

[1:02:14] Yes The Public Meeting Law Says That They Have To Post It So I Have To Get An

[1:02:18] Agenda I Have To Get The Clerk An agenda In Enough Time To Post It On The Website

[1:02:24] And Social Media Its Typically

[1:02:30] Friday Before Monday Meetings So For This Week It Was

[1:02:37] Tuesday For Thursday Meeting So Wou-I Would Say 48 Hours Is I Think

[1:02:42] Would Satisfy Them

[1:02:45] Since Surely Attorneys Go With That Right

[1:02:47] In That Motion Ill Make That The Meetings Are January April July And October

[1:02:54] You Pick Out The Date You Want If You Wanna Keep It The If You Wanna Go Before The

[1:02:58] Board Meeting

[1:03:00] Correct

[1:03:03] Now

[1:03:03] a question I do have is with the village fiscal year is anything

[1:03:09] that we need to Should it may be February I Don't Know Include March Meeting Or

[1:03:15] well if you do a january meeting budgets are usually discussed in that

[1:03:21] timeframe correctly mike

[1:03:22] yes so youre Talking January april Then What Are We Next To

[1:03:28] july and october Yes Between October You Can Start Your Budget Talks In

[1:03:34] October Internally here Once You Guys Get Set On budget And Then

[1:03:40] Th-the village Starts Their Budget Process November Ish December Correct And Then

[1:03:45] In January When They Finalize Things Okay

[1:03:49] you wanna do with the we were doing it on mondays but if you want take Whatever Guy

[1:03:55] Dont Care Personally Aprils Good Because Thats When They Have The Reward Meeting

[1:04:01] Probably won't be here for July.

[1:04:04] That's okay. I might not be here either.

[1:04:07] You can call it, that's fine.

[1:04:09] I probably will be.

[1:04:11] Do you want to pick another month or just leave it that way?

[1:04:15] If I could add-

[1:04:16] So if you want to keep the summer months out of it per se.

[1:04:22] So then you want to go...

[1:04:27] While he's contemplating.

[1:04:28] January, March, May.

[1:04:32] The only two things that I have is that the company holds elections of officers in

[1:04:37] April.

[1:04:39] We have to approve them all.

[1:04:40] You have to approve those. So if your April meeting

[1:04:44] maybe want to do that later in the month rather than in the beginning.

[1:04:50] And then the only thing is the election of members is the commission has to respond

[1:04:55] within 45 days of notification from the fire company on members.

[1:05:00] If there's no action taken from the fire commissioners, then it just goes back to

[1:05:04] the decision of the company. So that could just be hey, if we have a member you

[1:05:08] meet and you have a quick meeting and introduce him to the department but

[1:05:14] that's just couple things to keep in mind.

[1:05:18] Okay.

[1:05:19] Then I wrote let's do the meetings January and April.

[1:05:24] We do that April commissioner's meeting after the

[1:05:29] elections which is still the first Wednesday of April. Thomas?

[1:05:34] Mm-hmm. Yeah, it'll be the first week.

[1:05:35] It'll be-

[1:05:36] Yeah, it'd be April 7th.

[1:05:39] April 7th.

[1:05:39] And then we come back. We'll meet in September. Okay?

[1:05:45] Yep.

[1:05:45] And we'll have a year end meeting like in December.

[1:05:49] That would be four meetings for the year.

[1:05:50] Yeah, that works.

[1:05:51] In that December meeting budget will be talked and--

[1:05:56] That would be my recommendation if you want to keep the summers out of it which I

[1:06:01] would too.

[1:06:02] It's the longest commissioners meeting I've been to today

[1:06:06] .

[1:06:09] What do you think of that Commissioner?

[1:06:12] January, April, September, December?

[1:06:14] Yep.

[1:06:22] Okay, so that's the motion to meet quarterly in the months of January, April,

[1:06:27] September, and December.

[1:06:30] Is there a second?

[1:06:31] Make a second.

[1:06:34] Further discussion.

[1:06:40] So we're in September now, we wouldn't meet again until December unless--

[1:06:47] Can we get the company secretary to notify us?

[1:06:52] I think they may be going, I'm not positive, they may be going to the village

[1:06:57] clerk.

[1:06:58] Just copy us.

[1:07:00] Should they come from the village clerk?

[1:07:02] They should, yeah.

[1:07:04] To the back. So it should go Secretary Village Clerk Board of Fire Commissioners.

[1:07:09] Mm-hmm.

[1:07:09] Okay.

[1:07:10] we'll confirm with the company secretary.

[1:07:13] I know we've had that discussion in the past, but we'll confirm that.

[1:07:18] Now reason for that was what is it, 45 days if nothing by the board?

[1:07:23] No action by the board then-

[1:07:24] Right. That's an important piece of the puzzle we need to know and then-

[1:07:30] Yes..

[1:07:32] Just for clarification, if the company votes no on a member then there's really

[1:07:35] nothing for you guys to do.

[1:07:36] Correct.

[1:07:36] If there's a yes and you guys find there to be difficulty accepting the member into

[1:07:41] the department then that's the only reason why you really have to have a meeting.

[1:07:49] Okay.

[1:07:56] All right. All in favor?

[1:07:58] Aye. Aye.

[1:07:59] Motion carries. Any opposed?

[1:08:05] Okay.

[1:08:08] What else we got?

[1:08:13] Fair was a success.

[1:08:15] Even losing a day?

[1:08:18] Good.

[1:08:19] Was it more than a day wasn't it? You went-

[1:08:21] No this one night.

[1:08:24] Okay.

[1:08:26] Are the dates posted for next year yet?

[1:08:30] it's the same as last year.

[1:08:33] But we tend not announce them until after New Year because things may change.

[1:08:40] But I think next year you're going to have a new person running affair.

[1:08:44] I don't think I know.

[1:08:49] Right.

[1:08:54] Anything else?

[1:08:57] I make a motion to adjourn this meeting.

[1:09:00] Second.

[1:09:04] All in favor?

[1:09:05] Aye. Aye.

[1:09:06] Thank you

2026.09.03 Village of Cornwall On Hudson Board of Fire Commissioners Meeting

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