[0:00] I >> like to call this uh

[0:06] regular council meeting to order on June 9th, 20126. Will you please turn

[0:11] yourselves off or on silent and stand and repeat with me or uh pledge of

[0:17] allegiance?

[0:34] Thank you.

[0:38] » Roll call. >> Councelor Mira.

[0:42] » Councelor Wman >> here.

[0:44] » Councelor Knight >> here.

[0:45] » Councelor Bquette >> here.

[0:47] » Councelor Murray >> here.

[0:49] » All present. And

[0:53] may I have a motion to approve the agenda, please?

[0:56] » So move. >> Is there a motion? A second.

[0:59] » Second. >> Any discussion?

[1:04] All in favor say I. >> I.

[1:07] » Uh oppose say no. Motion carries. Uh next item is the administrator's report.

[1:15] Melanie. >> Thank you, mayor. Uh mayor and

[1:17] counselors, I have a couple of updates since the administrator's report was

[1:21] written on Friday. Um one will be especially um important to councelor

[1:25] Waldman. I do have an update on Salce Park. um the the grant has moved to the

[1:32] next step in the process and we should have the formal notice of award within

[1:35] the next 30 to 45 days which once we have that then we can move forward with

[1:40] the next step with the design. So >> excellent. Thank you.

[1:42] » Um and also the the work is proceeding it's almost done on the um animal

[1:46] services remodel >> ahead of schedule.

[1:48] » Yes. >> Yes.

[1:49] » Thank you. >> Ahead of schedule and under budget so we

[1:52] are good there. Um, and then counselor night, um, I know

[1:56] you had asked Lynn for some more information about the, um,

[2:00] adventure day that happened on Saturday at Liam's Pond. And so Lynn gave me a

[2:05] list of the sponsors. It's a a very large list, but it included um Coyote

[2:10] Gravel Products and Pumping Service, Hit or Miss Archery Center, Tuk Stuckco, The

[2:15] Archery Shop, Bosi Barber Shop, Waypoint Vehicle Uplifters, Ace Hardware, JPR, uh

[2:23] Gravel and Construction, uh the Bass Pro Shop, and BA BMC Tactical. So, they they

[2:31] gave away $15,000 in prizes on Saturday at the at the

[2:36] event, including free fishing rods to all of the kids that came. So, it was a

[2:41] um very successful event. I'm not sure how many fish were caught, and I'm not

[2:45] sure if all of the tagged fish were caught, but um

[2:48] » Sarah and they had they caught and this was like about 10:30 and the two fish

[2:53] that came out that I saw were huge. >> They were this big.

[2:58] » Yeah. helping helping

[3:01] » this big. But um also, you know, um animal services were there from the

[3:06] village and um uh of course the police department as well as the fire

[3:11] department and Lynn. And you know, it it was so much fun to go over there and see

[3:17] all these families together fishing and having fun. And it even for like little

[3:22] tots, they had like a little pool filled with fake fish that they could sit in

[3:26] and grab them. It was It was really pretty cool.

[3:29] » Yeah, Murray. >> Yeah. So, to follow up on that, I got a

[3:32] haircut Monday and I was talking to my stylist and she her son participated in

[3:37] the fishing and when he caught his fish, he was sorely disappointed because it

[3:42] was only about gay [laughter] and everybody else was have catching the

[3:45] big ones. Well, turns out he had the smallest fish.

[3:48] » Then he won a prize. >> He won prize. His attitude changed

[3:51] immensely afterwards. But uh yeah, it was pretty funny because she showed me a

[3:56] picture and it was just, you know, >> you just had to feel for him because

[3:59] he's sitting there that then, but when he got the award, you know, oh,

[4:05] great. >> Yeah. I I know um of one one child, he

[4:08] he won an Xbox, so there there were some really good prizes. So, yeah. Yeah. So,

[4:13] um we're hoping to be able to do that again next year. So,

[4:17] » um and then let's see, what was the other update I had for you? Oh, there

[4:22] has been a case of the new world screw worm in New Mexico in Lee County and a

[4:26] and a dog. So, um we're we're keeping an eye on that um for our our health and

[4:31] safety. So, um with that, oh, let's see. Um you'll see on tonight's consent

[4:38] agenda all of the resolutions for our our parah, our public employees

[4:42] retirement fund. And um this has been I believe we started the process of um

[4:49] adding our employees to this about 19 years ago. Is that is that right? And we

[4:55] have been working um this has been the goal to get our police and fire

[4:58] departments to plan five which is the highest plan we can go. So this is this

[5:03] is an amazing day. I know a lot of our our police and fire are here tonight um

[5:07] in support of this. So, um, thank you for your consideration of this and for

[5:11] your, um, agreeing to pick up some of the employees contributions on this

[5:15] because this is really helpful to the village for our recruiting and our

[5:19] retention for our employees. So, just wanted to say thank you in advance.

[5:24] Hopefully, it passes. With that, if there's any questions on the report or

[5:28] any requests for next time, >> council me.

[5:31] » Uh, thank you. So I know that I asked a question about item five in your report

[5:36] about the U amended site plan withdrawing his application and I

[5:41] understand now actually talking with uh our attorney and that we do not have

[5:48] rules in place that would penalize anybody from withdrawing their

[5:52] application. So consequently I'm disappointed

[5:56] and there are still problems with that. I I think that we need to go court code

[6:02] enforcement to go back and take a look at that because he's got two entrances,

[6:07] but he was only allowed one. So, I think it's it's incumbent that we take a look

[6:12] at the uh violations that are there and see if we can get them resolved. But, uh

[6:18] yeah, I'm not happy with uh with that result, but that's if that's the way it

[6:23] is. It is. Any other comments, questions from

[6:28] councel? >> Good.

[6:31] » Thank you, mayor. >> Uh, moving right along. Coraleno's

[6:35] forum. This section is forformational purposes only, not for discussion and

[6:40] debate to inform the governing body of an issue or concern that would not be

[6:45] addressed on the agenda during the business session. There will be a three

[6:51] minute time limit for each speaker. How many speakers are there, Mandy?

[6:54] » 13. Okay. All right. Uh, first speaker then,

[7:00] » Pamela Whitney.

[7:08] » Good evening. >> Can you please state your name and

[7:10] address for the record? >> Uh, Pamela Whitney, 942 Old Church Road.

[7:16] » Good evening. Um, I'm here to give an update on 944 Old Church Road uh where

[7:22] there's a uh clean and lean in place which we hope will remain in place until

[7:27] this is resolved. Um, since we I last spoke with you, I I will let you know I

[7:32] am in here on behalf of all of the neighbors who couldn't always be here

[7:36] tonight because they now know that the official report from planning and zoning

[7:40] will was pushed to next week. But two of us are here to give a report on that.

[7:46] Um, since we last spoke, there have been uh not just uh pickup trucks coming in

[7:51] with debris, mostly metal. They're now dump trucks. There have been four of

[7:56] them that I've seen, and another one came at 8:30 at night and unloaded for 2

[8:01] hours. The debris of metal was piled so high that you could see it over the edge

[8:06] of the dump truck um bringing in metal. Um they now have so there's new material

[8:12] coming in all the time. Since they got a report saying that it was substantially

[8:17] clean, they thought, "Oh, Ali Ali income free. We're good to go now. Let's bring

[8:20] in more stuff." Um they built they're building a shed 30 ft by 15 ft uh with

[8:26] no permit. Uh PNZ has been out to see this and now has acknowledged there's

[8:31] new material that wasn't there from their last report. In conclusion, we've

[8:36] all come to the conclusion, all the neighbors, and I believe P&Z, that this

[8:40] is an ongoing business. It's a scrapyard. It's a junkyard. Scrapyard

[8:44] has been in business for years. It is their source of income. Um, scrap comes

[8:50] in, scrap goes out, scrap comes in, scraps out. We have to assume it's being

[8:54] sold. Uh, they have worked hard to get the flammable material out, but the

[8:59] business will remain. And we hope that by the end of this, whatever the

[9:03] conclusion, however this is resolved, we hoped very very much that there will be

[9:09] something in writing in the clean and lean that says that you all have the

[9:14] right to come and inspect every four to 6 months to ensure that this business

[9:18] has been ongoing for over 30 to 40 years does not continue to go once they feel

[9:24] they have met the requirements of the clean and lean because this is their

[9:28] source of income which is fine. It's a residential neighborhood and maybe in

[9:32] the old days when it wasn't so urban, it was fine. But now they need to take the

[9:37] money that they've made from other land, sell it, and go somewhere else to run

[9:42] their business and live peacefully as our neighbor. Thank you very much.

[9:46] » Thank you. Next, Mandy. >> Um Amy Clement.

[9:54] I'm Amy Clement, 942 Old Church Road, speaking about the same property. And

[9:58] I'm sure you're tired of me speaking about the same property. You know, kind

[10:01] of tired as well, but I just wanted to make sure the lean and clean is um

[10:08] handled carefully, that it's not just removed without uh lots of inspections.

[10:13] And then when it is finally removed, there will be some kind of followup

[10:17] because I do believe they just move it from one pile here to one pile here. But

[10:21] I also believe there are still a lot of flammable things there because I just

[10:25] saw the 60 unused tires pile has never been removed and that would burn for

[10:30] days. I get frustrated with Paralis Comment because every time this is on

[10:34] the front page of Paral Comment, they put in the title trashy neighbors blah

[10:39] blah blah. It's not about it being trashy and I'm a Karen or like it's an

[10:43] eyesore thing. I think they're spending all the time on a fence to hide it, but

[10:47] it's not about them being trashy at all. It's about a fire hazard. There's all

[10:53] It's about safety, not about being an eyesore. So, it's not about hiding it so

[10:57] we don't see it in and our feel like our neighborhood is trashy. It's not that at

[11:01] all. It's just a a safety hazard for a fire that will burn for days.

[11:06] » Thank you. >> Thank you,

[11:07] » Mr. Mayor. Mor. >> Yes,

[11:12] » if I could just interrupt for a minute. We were expecting, I think, an update

[11:15] tonight. Could you tell us what this post I'm sorry to interrupt, but

[11:18] » Yeah. um it would just needed a little more time to to follow up. We're we're

[11:23] in the process of of getting quotes on on cleaning up the property ourselves.

[11:28] So, um it it is it is still in place. It is still moving forward. Uh we were just

[11:32] hoping to have some more information before we gave you a formal report. So,

[11:36] it'll be part of uh Lor's monthly report in the next council packet.

[11:40] » Thank you. >> Thank you so much, Bob. I

[11:52] Well, I live in Corales. First off, I recognize Cibil Sheepard

[11:58] back here. Haven't seen her for many, many years since her husband passed.

[12:04] Great family and I miss John all the time. Okay. [clears throat]

[12:10] Pardon me. I would still like to bring up there's a no loadering sign. It has

[12:16] been proven to be unconstitutional. You can loiter in a public parking

[12:20] [clears throat] lot. So, I'd really like to get that one

[12:25] removed. The number of coyotes are really

[12:29] increasing right now. The pups are out. The coyotes are are going everywhere.

[12:37] Uh and then just two two things. The number of cars that pass on the right on

[12:44] Corral's Road is out of out of hand. Every time you

[12:49] stop to make a left-hand turn, they're passing you on the right. They don't

[12:53] pass me, but I see it all the time. It's illegal. They can't go on the dirt.

[13:01] But then I've been passed on also. I do speed limit. I use cruise control cuz I

[13:08] got a heavy foot. But they're passing me on over.

[13:12] Uh years ago, I followed the guy all the way to his house. My wife wouldn't let

[13:16] me get out and talk to him. But

[13:22] most of the drivers here are great. It just it's just those few that are either

[13:26] passing on the right or passing on the left. They're whatever they're doing,

[13:29] they're doing it wrong. Thank you. Thank you. Next, Mandy.

[13:34] » Civil Kaiser. Yes.

[13:44] Civil Kaiser 160 West Meadow Law. Um, I'm here to speak against a a noise

[13:52] ordinance. Um, I we do have a a real noise problem

[13:57] corrals. The traffic there's more people living here. Traffic is loud. You can't

[14:02] regulate that. Um, we value our farm community all day. I listen to weed

[14:09] whackers, leaf blowers, all kinds of motors, but I respect that people need

[14:14] to use that and we can't regulate that. Um, I listen to I walk outside and my

[14:21] the dog barks at me all the time. The peacock screech and the chicken the

[14:28] rooster has no regard for the dawn and just crows all day. But you can't

[14:31] regulate that. So you're looking at regulating music. We are so fortunate to

[14:38] have some venues, local venues where we can go and enjoy music. And it seems

[14:43] like it's that's something that that should we should encourage to exist

[14:49] here. Um, I understand if you're uh live near the commercial zone, maybe it would

[14:57] not be so hard to just accommodate and tolerate that music till 9:30. 9:30

[15:03] curfew is the only ordinance we need. I heard an argument that just because you

[15:08] live in the commercial district, you should um be entitled to to the same

[15:15] kind of quiet that everyone else. And that's ridiculous. your property values

[15:19] reflect that. If you live in a more densely populated area, it's going to be

[15:23] a little noisier. I mean, I think you have there's other conveniences that you

[15:27] enjoy, but that's a trade-off. And I I don't think we can expect it's not too

[15:33] much to ask for those residents to just tolerate some tombs till 9:30 at night.

[15:41] And uh Rudy Ma

[15:55] 16 East Millark. We are here to solve problems.

[16:01] That's those aren't my words. That's what U. Councelor Mietta said at this

[16:05] meeting uh last Tuesday. And so let's start solving some problems. you know,

[16:10] um, Robert Hobbes talked about, uh, that he

[16:14] and I have some disagreements and we agreed to disagree, but we also agreed

[16:18] to agree. And one thing we can agree on is uh an entrance further to the north

[16:24] on on Corales Road because you know there was uh a statement made by the PNZ

[16:31] uh administrator when we had our first um appeal back in 2023 and we were told

[16:37] that uh the New Mexico Department of Transportation would never grant uh

[16:42] variance. Time out. Not true. The New Mexico

[16:46] Department of Transportation is located at 1120 Cerillios Road in New Mexico in

[16:52] Santa Fe, which is another name for Highway 14. In fact, the entire basic uh

[17:00] commercial district of the city of Santa Fe is on a variance. Whether you want to

[17:04] go to the Elcourt Motel or you want to go to Whole Foods Market, get some art

[17:08] supplies at Artisans or buy some good food in Marisos, those businesses have

[17:13] all been granted a variance. That is highway 14 from all the way from uh

[17:20] Department of Transportation through uh Rodeo Road all the way up to

[17:24] where it ends in in uh in Gali Stable Road. So I think that uh we should uh

[17:30] take a look at the parallel that we have our same situation here that this is a a

[17:35] state highway and we're being told well there can be no variances granted. Well

[17:39] variances have been granted to the point that that's how uh economy of Santa Fe

[17:44] is still sustained. I think that maybe we should take a look and councelor

[17:49] Marie mentioned about you know it was better. He was disappointed there was

[17:52] two entrances allowed. If there's one entrance, we would like to see it on the

[17:56] north side, but it's going to take more than than just Robert fighting it

[17:59] himself or us the metallark or we need the village behind us. I think we need

[18:03] the council behind us and I think we should take this up as a problem we

[18:06] could solve. I think, you know, they say the definition of uh being insane is to

[18:11] keep doing the same thing over and over again. Will people keep talking over and

[18:15] over again to Margaret? I don't know who Margaret is over at the DOT, but we

[18:19] might need to go above Margaret and councelor Mietta. think you you had so

[18:23] much experience with the uh legislature and you know how government works and

[18:27] all that. Uh maybe that would be something you can be helping us out in

[18:31] in terms of uh doing what we're here for which is to solve problems. Thank you

[18:36] very much. >> Thank you.

[18:38] » That's Deborah de laator.

[18:47] I'm Deborah de la. I live at 28 East Metal Arlane Pales.

[18:53] Mayor Hashimoto and councel, we have been recently made aware due to the

[18:58] inclusion on the agenda that the property owner Robert Hobbs of 3605

[19:02] Corales Road has withdrawn his site development plan 2603 amendment as

[19:08] following public site development plan hearings. The matter was appealed to the

[19:12] village council which determined that the proposed increase in intensity

[19:17] required further review and remanded the application to the planning and zoning

[19:21] commission. The applicant then withdrew the request and elected to proceed under

[19:26] the previously approved original site development plan. The owner cannot

[19:31] obtain by withdrawal what could not be obtained through approval. By

[19:37] withdrawing the amendment to modify, the applicant remains subject to the

[19:40] original site development plan and all conditions associated with that

[19:44] approval. The withdrawal of the application cannot serve as

[19:48] authorization for site improvements, operations, or uses that differ from the

[19:53] approved plan. It has become apparent that the site as currently constructed

[19:57] and operated may not fully conform to the approved SDP plan

[20:03] and its conditions. Accordingly, I request the village conduct a

[20:07] comprehensive compliance review and require conformance with all elements of

[20:13] the approved plan, including but not limited to restoration and construction

[20:18] of all site improvements not shown on the original approved STP. Remove the

[20:23] shipping container, shed, storage, fencing, concrete slabs, outdoor gazebo,

[20:27] all were added without proper permitting. replacement of the

[20:31] screening, the walls, the fencing, the landscaping and buffering elements that

[20:35] were existing on that original plan, but subsequently removed, altered or never

[20:41] installed. Replacement of a 6' high solid wood fencing at the north portion

[20:46] of the property. Tree replacement as shown on the landscape plan. Restore a

[20:51] six-ft high wire fence on Corales Road from the wood fence south. Then extend

[20:56] east on Metoark. Remove the access drive around the pond. Restore the required

[21:01] runup capacity and maintenance of all drainage, grading, and storm water

[21:05] management improvements required by the original approved STP. Compliance of all

[21:11] approved hours of restaurant operation, 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Monday through

[21:16] Friday, as shown on Mr. Hob's original application. His original application,

[21:22] hence the approval from from PNZ originally was specifically that states

[21:28] for one small delicatessan. Hours of business are 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.

[21:34] There will be no open cooking in the delicatessan and the idea for Belle's

[21:38] deli liquor license was dropped during the original discussion and was never

[21:43] approved. And Miss Romero's finding of fact number seven is incorrect.

[21:49] Thank you for your attention to this matter.

[21:52] » Thank you. Next, Mandy >> Kathy Campbell.

[22:05] » Kathy Campbell, 8 East Metal Arc Lane. Good evening, mayor and counselors.

[22:10] Thank you for the opportunity to address the council of fellow Corinians tonight.

[22:14] As a resident of Palis for over 40 years and as an appealing party in a quasi

[22:19] judicial proceeding recently heard by the council in the special meeting on

[22:22] June 2nd, I want to express my concerns of bea on behalf of myself and the other

[22:28] appalants regarding the process followed particularly with regard to notice and

[22:33] adequate documentation of the proceeding and of subsequent events. In the hearing

[22:37] on June 2nd, we were led to believe that there would be insufficient time for the

[22:40] BNZ to review the conditions set forth in the council's decision and it would

[22:45] most likely be heard at the council's regular meeting on June 23rd. With that

[22:50] in mind, the opponents were surprised to learn that the findings of fact and

[22:53] conclusions of law would be on the agenda for re review at tonight's

[22:57] meeting and that the amended STP which was the subject of the appeal had been

[23:02] withdrawn by the apply Mr. Hobbs. that information was included in

[23:06] administrator's report in the agenda packet. Another issue of concern is that

[23:10] the minutes of that appeal hearing do not adequately reflect the testimony and

[23:15] evidence presented for appropriate documentation of the proceeding and in

[23:19] fact refer to an incorrect STP in the motion presented. Further, the

[23:23] withdrawal of STP 2603 should be presented to the counselors as part of

[23:27] the appeal proceeding itself and does not in and in and of itself relieve the

[23:33] Appal League from his responsibilities under the original SDP. I present these

[23:38] concerns for your consideration in addressing items number one and three on

[23:42] the agenda for tonight's meeting. Again, mayor, counselors, and fellow Orlando,

[23:47] thank you for your time. >> Thank you. Next,

[23:50] » Salame Ward.

[23:59] » Hi, Salame Ward, East Metal Arc Lane. Uh, um, hi everyone. Thank you so much.

[24:05] What, you know, for what each of you does. Um, one thing I just wanted to

[24:08] remind everyone here is, I don't know, it raises my hackles now every time I

[24:13] hear commercial zone because we don't have a commercial zone in uh, Corales.

[24:19] We have a neighborhood commercial zone. So people, everyone seems to always

[24:23] forget the neighborhood part. We're all neighbors here and it's a neighborhood

[24:28] commercial zone. Um so I think we should all be concerned about the enjoyment and

[24:33] the health and the well-being of all of our neighbors. Um, so what I was well I

[24:38] was going to talk about division like so many times right now it seems that

[24:41] there's division and I still believe that we have so much more in common and

[24:46] ultimately what we all want is to enjoy our lives here in this beautiful village

[24:51] and to have good neighbors. Good neighbors whether or not they're

[24:55] residents, whether they're businesses, whether they're both, whether they have

[25:00] whether they're uh you get the idea. So, um, so anyway, I hope that we all could

[25:06] always be good neighbors to each other. Um, I would like to add my, uh, support

[25:12] my neighbors that just came up here and spoke. I'm also on East Bedark and I

[25:16] share their concerns about the property, um, at the corner there of the corner of

[25:21] Corales Road. Um, but one thing I also wanted to mention, recently I've been to

[25:25] meetings regarding a liquor license, regarding an appeal, um, all kinds of

[25:29] things. And it's a great learning process, but sometimes it's frustrating

[25:33] because it seems that there's inconsistencies or there are rules that

[25:38] are hard to understand, especially with regards to quasi judicial or quasi

[25:42] legal. I forgot what the official term is. Um recently um at an appeal um

[25:49] attendees were told that only the appalants would be allowed to speak but

[25:54] then afterwards someone said to me where did they get that rule from? That's not

[25:58] true. You were part of the initial hearing you were also allowed to speak.

[26:02] So sometimes there's frustrating things like that that happen. Sometimes it

[26:06] appears that um sorry like the administrator sometimes you put your

[26:10] finger on the scale in the way things are presented and you should be

[26:13] impartial like that shouldn't happen. So that's frustrating. Um and also recently

[26:19] at the liquor license hearing God it's hard to say this in front of everyone.

[26:23] Okay. Um there one of the council members um accused people that were

[26:27] opposing the liquor license. Um there was talk about people intentionally

[26:32] being misleading and lying and particularly under oath because you have

[26:37] to swear an oath when you speak at a quasi judicial process. In the end after

[26:42] the meeting it was all cleared up. It was a misunderstanding but in the

[26:46] meantime that accusation stuck. It stayed there that people that were

[26:52] exercising their right and speaking out against something were kind of accused

[26:57] of of being misleading and lying. So, I just want everybody to be careful.

[27:01] You're all our neighbors as well, and let's try to

[27:05] bring the temperature down instead of uh make it worse. Thank you.

[27:09] » Thank you. Next, Mandy. >> Teddy Chavez.

[27:22] My name is Eddie Chavis. I live at 10 Mountain View Lane on the north end of

[27:26] Corales.

[27:30] Mountain View Lane is just north of the Harvey Jones Canal and just south of the

[27:37] escurves that are going on the way towards the tree. [snorts]

[27:45] Mountain View Lane has three other families that live on Mountain View Lane

[27:52] as well as myself. On a daily basis and on multiple

[27:57] occasions, I have to exit or enter from Mountain View Lane onto Corales

[28:04] Road 130 ft from a blind curve.

[28:09] On a daily basis, I have to cross Corella Road to pick up my menu. 2.35

[28:16] seconds from a blind curve. On a frequent basis,

[28:22] I have a close encounter with a vehicle coming around that blind curve as I exit

[28:27] onto Coral's road or cross to pick up my mail.

[28:33] On a frequent basis, I get harassed for slowing down to turn into Mountain

[28:37] Delay. On a frequent basis, I think to myself,

[28:42] one of these days, this has been going on for over 45 years

[28:48] that I've lived on Mountain View Lane, except that it's happening more

[28:52] frequently. I have witnessed several dozen

[28:56] accidents. Two utility poles taken out, a gas

[29:02] meter, leaking gas with a wrecked car on top of it, fences and walls knocked

[29:08] down, and even dead people. I am here to request that the Corellus

[29:14] Police Department effectively effectively

[29:20] increase their presence and enforcement of the speed limit on our portion of

[29:26] Corales Road. Actions speak louder than words.

[29:32] Let the actions of me and my neighbors today

[29:36] um please take into account the actions that we take and let our words speak for

[29:40] themselves. Thank you. >> Thank you.

[29:44] » Russell Shahill.

[29:51] » Uh I'm Russell Trujillo, 7596 Corales Road. I'm uh Eddie Chavis is one

[29:58] of his neighbors and uh we've been up here before talking about the traffic

[30:04] and uh it's uh it's still a problem down there. I do appreciate councelor Ma.

[30:12] He's helped us out quite a bit. Uh I did talk to Steve Lecu the other day. I

[30:18] caught him down there. They were taking pictures of the trees that need to be

[30:22] removed. I know it's going to be a long process, but uh you know, we're still

[30:28] behind you and we still would like to see uh something done down there, you

[30:35] know, and uh uh we noticed tonight when I was coming the the S-curve sign in the

[30:42] south lane, it's been down for about two or three days now. Somebody ran over it

[30:48] and uh you know, we'd really like to have some police presence down there. Uh

[30:53] we do see it occasionally at the tree farm. Uh the other day I went down

[30:59] Lomalara and I seen three police cars at different areas. But I'm sure uh you

[31:05] know Lomalara doesn't have uh probably 10% of the traffic we have in Coralis

[31:11] Road on that side. So it'd really be nice to have some police presence down

[31:18] there and uh slow down that traffic. Uh, we also had an event down there. I guess

[31:27] it's been a month and a half ago where we'd had trucks. I don't know what the

[31:33] the regulations for truck traffic is on Corales Road, but we had non-stop truck

[31:39] traffic for a month and a half down there. The big the big trucks moving

[31:44] back and forth. Probably 80,000 pounds of load on on those trucks. I know the

[31:50] highway wasn't made for that. Either was Lalara. They were coming from the 528

[31:56] project in Rio Rancho coming down road and they were going somewhere over by

[32:02] the old church and back and forth all day and it it's pretty annoying. Uh and

[32:10] uh it's just one of those things. And another thing that we need some

[32:14] enforcement on is these new uh the trash trailers. I mean, just today I was

[32:21] working out in my field. I counted in two hours. I counted five of these trash

[32:27] trailers. I don't know if you know what I mean. They're uh they seem like

[32:31] they're everywhere. Every every contractor has one now, but they're all

[32:35] going to the county dump and it's nonstop. Some days it's non-stop.

[32:41] Some guys have their loads tied down, but I have picked up a lot of trash off

[32:47] the highway in front of my house from stuff just bouncing off those trailers.

[32:51] And uh sometimes I think they're going to stop and come and pick it up, but

[32:56] they never do. Thank you. >> Thank you.

[33:00] » Is Isabella Trill.

[33:07] » Hello. Isabella Trujillo 7596 Corales Road. Um I will also express as my

[33:14] neighbors and father have explained that it's a very dangerous S-curve down there

[33:19] at the north end of Corales. Um and we are continuing to live with it. Um and I

[33:27] hope we can get some sort of resolve with that as well. Um, I'd also like to

[33:32] um mention for the public that the Kraas farmland preservation

[33:37] um program has been opened again, application program has been opened

[33:42] again as the council had approved it. Um, and I want to make sure that that is

[33:47] known for the public. It the application process closes on June 22nd in about a

[33:52] little about two weeks. So any land owners interested in placing their

[33:56] property in a conservation easement, please reach out to the village um about

[34:01] that process. So you can find the application on the village website. It's

[34:05] also you can go to the admin office and get it. You can return it in person or

[34:09] email it back. Um and then the the process will begin from there. So if

[34:14] anyone is interested or has questions, I do have some flyers available and or

[34:19] just go to the village website and check that out. Um, this is one of the only

[34:25] programs that the village offers to support farming in Corales. So, please

[34:30] take advantage of it. Um, and yes, this is a really important

[34:36] program that we have here. You could potentially get some money out

[34:40] of it. So, we need to really support our agriculture, our farmers in this

[34:44] village. And this is one of the uh one way that we can really do that. And

[34:49] again, please continue supporting local agriculture. Come to the growers market.

[34:54] Every Sunday, 9 to noon until November. We are there. And there's a lot of food

[34:59] that we are producing here in the village. And people need to eat it. So,

[35:03] please come to the market, get your food, and um help us continue supporting

[35:08] agriculture in the village. And that also helps with less traffic on the

[35:12] roads because there's less houses being developed, so there's less cars, so more

[35:18] property is being used in farmland. Thank you very much.

[35:21] » Thank you. >> Next, Mandy,

[35:24] » Ran Garfield.

[35:29] » Hello, I'm Ran Garfield. Uh I'm at 7532 Parales Road and I'm speaking about the

[35:36] the line curve at the north end. Uh my

[35:41] family has lived in Palace for over 50 years and our property is located

[35:46] between the Jones Channel to the south and the tree farm to the north. We are

[35:51] dead center on the infamous blind curve. There has been much property damage over

[35:56] these years, including fence damage, gas meters having to be relocated,

[36:02] mailboxes being run over, power poles being knocked over, and also some

[36:07] fatalities.

[36:10] The yellow arrow signs put on the curb by the highway department in front of

[36:14] our property have even been mowed down. The work done by the village government

[36:19] so far is is much appreciated. With the everinccreasing amount of

[36:24] traffic, it is becoming more treacherous to pull in and out of our driveways and

[36:29] to cross the road on foot than we irrigate our property. A concentrated

[36:34] police presence is needed to slow down the traffic on this blind curve and a

[36:39] reduction of the speed limit would help the most. Thank you.

[36:44] » Thank you. Next, may

[36:47] » uh Ken Dehoff.

[36:54] » Good evening, uh, mayor and counselors. I'm Ken Dehoff.

[36:59] Uh, I live at 7648 Corales Road, or at least it was 7648

[37:06] Corales Road before Lorie Stout made me name my driveway. It's now Bad Coyote.

[37:12] So, we're Bad Coyote Farm and we are 100 ft south of the tree farm and I'm here

[37:19] to support my neighbors uh to mention that we all met with

[37:25] Representative Kates and Councelor Mierra last year. We had what I thought

[37:31] were really good, productive conversations

[37:36] about doing something to improve safety. I I just my my mailbox story is that I

[37:43] see UPS and FedEx trucks cross the yellow line, cross the

[37:49] dividing line coming up to our house and then they overcorre correct right into

[37:55] where my mailbox is. So I just have to I have to be very mindful of not being at

[38:01] my mailbox when I see something coming up from Mountain View. And I can just I

[38:07] can see that and say, "Okay, as long as it's clear, I got enough time to get up,

[38:11] get my mail, and get out of there." And so, it would be

[38:17] uh helpful to follow through on what we talked about last year. And I'm going to

[38:24] give you a word and some personal advice called persistence with my second topic,

[38:33] which is that uh tomorrow evening in the Sandival County Commission, the county

[38:39] commission is going to be voting uh to determine that the Sandival County

[38:45] Assessor has abandoned her role by taking a job with the state treasurer.

[38:53] Uh I don't know if anybody has seen the Larry Barker

[38:58] uh article about that. Uh if you haven't, it's worth seeing. And

[39:05] you all know that I have been one word persistent

[39:12] on trying to protect the rights of land owners in Corales. And I'm doing it with

[39:17] my own property. But persistence requires

[39:24] effort and it requires continuous effort. I mean the mayor showed up here

[39:30] regularly. I mean if you remember we have a number of people that show up

[39:37] regularly on an issue. That persistence is I think what we on the north end are

[39:43] asking from the council to help us improve safety on the north

[39:49] end of Corales Road. Thank you. >> Thank you.

[39:59] » Next item is the consularor's forum. This section is forformational purposes

[40:05] only, not for discussion and debate, to inform the governing body of an issue or

[40:10] concern that would not be addressed on the agenda during the business session.

[40:15] Any counselors?

[40:20] Council me. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And I want to just uh take some time to not on

[40:25] the agenda. So therefore, I'll say wanted to thank uh all of you for

[40:29] showing up, but specifically my constituents who have been uh very kind

[40:35] and taking their time, understanding that we need to take our time with the

[40:39] state, but I continue working with them and they continue working with us. And

[40:43] so I want to thank them for coming and uh Tim that as I've told you you make

[40:48] your your uh your statements here and they're going record but mostly we get

[40:52] used to seeing you and then maybe we think maybe it's nice if we didn't see

[40:57] them so much so because we took care of their issues. So I want to thank you for

[41:02] reminding us of what we need to do and uh I'll end it Mr. Mayor by just saying

[41:06] what bothers me the most. These people do have to cross from one side of the

[41:11] street to the other to get their mail cuz we we can't move the mailboxes. They

[41:14] might get run over, but uh no, not the not the people in mailboxes, but uh

[41:19] nonetheless, you have to cross the street. And to me, that's so disturbing,

[41:23] but everybody else along Corales Road has to do that, too. So, uh thank you

[41:27] very much for reminding us of what uh we can do to help you. So, thank you very

[41:31] much. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. >> Sure. Any other counselors who would

[41:34] like to speak?

[41:38] Okay, next item, consent agenda. May I have a

[41:42] motion to approve the consent agenda, please?

[41:47] » So move. >> I'll second.

[41:50] » Any discussion? Councelor Murray and Council Wman and

[41:55] Mera. Yeah. So, with the uh application for the harvest festival and closing the

[42:00] crossroad, how do residents get to the post office on those days when uh the

[42:05] road is closed?

[42:10] » I don't know. >> I'm just curious because, you know, it

[42:13] does say road closure, but if residents need to get to the post office,

[42:16] especially on Saturday when it's open, uh they need some mechanism by which

[42:20] they can get to the post office. I I know in the past you've been able to

[42:25] to go in and and park at the rec center. I I don't know if they can park there

[42:30] and and walk. We We'll find out for you. >> Well, I mean, post office obviously has

[42:34] their own parking lot. That's federal property. So, if anybody is using that

[42:39] for the harvest festival, uh they may be in violation of federal law. So, I don't

[42:44] know. But, uh it seems like to me that uh we need to have that uh you know,

[42:49] discussed. Councilwoman,

[42:53] » a very minor point, but uh on the ditch run application, I think it should

[42:57] probably read um that this is the third year of the uh ditch run rather than the

[43:02] 30th year. So,

[43:04] » okay, >> thank you Mira.

[43:07] » Uh thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh two different questions. Um one would be uh

[43:12] going back to Pamela's first statement and all those that were here on Church

[43:17] Road. Um, anyone, but I was looking for PNZ. Do we

[43:23] even have even if we could, if we don't have a special zoning for a scrapyard at

[43:31] all in Corales, we do. We don't. So, there's there's no

[43:37] even if somebody's doing legally or illegally.

[43:39] » Lori Lori is here. >> Oh, Lori, is she here? I was used to Oh,

[43:42] there you are. I'm used to seeing you in the back. Lori, you could answer it from

[43:46] back there or whatever. I mean, is there such a Okay, that'll be fine. You

[43:50] understand my question, right? Is there such a thing as a I know in other

[43:53] counties and other areas, other cities, they do have we do we even have such a

[43:57] thing as a permit for a scrapyard? >> No, we don't. Okay. Especially not in a

[44:03] residential area. If somebody tried to do that as a commercial enterprise, they

[44:07] would have to do a site development plan and it would be subject to that review.

[44:11] But there's no such thing for um residential. So, if we find somebody in

[44:15] violation of whatever it is and they have a scrapyard, they're they're

[44:19] violating. >> Correct. We can we can if you're talking

[44:22] about the Clean and Lean property, that's going away, too. The Clean and

[44:26] Lean is far from dead. I It is not substantially compliant. They built yet

[44:30] another new building. So, we're gathering bids to get rid of that and

[44:34] and the scrap and whatever tires, etc. Yeah. And going along that same, is

[44:38] there such a thing as a construction yard or is it the same thing that we do

[44:42] or do not have any permission for? >> Well, I can tell you there was a

[44:45] residence that got a home occupation and it was a very small one. It was supposed

[44:49] to be an office for a construction company and over the years about 20

[44:53] years it morphed into a full-on construction yard and after much you

[44:59] know appealing and court case etc etc it was removed. So that that's over and

[45:04] above what would typically be allowed for any home occupation. Again, if it's

[45:08] commercial, it would be subject to PNZ review, but not in not in a residential

[45:12] zone. >> Thank you. And my final one is um I

[45:16] guess it was Amy, and I could be wrong. Uh correct me if I'm wrong, but uh Sid

[45:20] on the consent agenda, one and three were maybe out of whack or is is there

[45:25] any uh thing that we need to know about it as council or myself as counselor?

[45:30] » I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. One and three. What

[45:32] » on the consent agenda? One and three, I believe.

[45:35] » I I think she meant the findings of fact that

[45:38] » Okay. Where is that one? On the next page.

[45:40] » No, it's under It's under um consent agenda, right?

[45:44] » Yeah, that's number one on the consent agenda.

[45:46] » Is is are those in line? Maybe I should ask uh Melanie,

[45:53] are we okay by if we because we know the consent agenda. If we approve the

[45:56] consent agenda, we approving those and are they online? Are they okay? Yes,

[46:01] they they those are written by our attorney and this this is what would go

[46:05] if if it progressed to um somebody taking it to uh magistrate court that

[46:12] would be what the the court yes that the the court would look at those those

[46:16] findings effect. So this is the >> sort of the official record that goes in

[46:20] hand with with the minutes and um we we do have a typo in the minutes for those

[46:25] under the motion. It says 2602 site development plan 2602. I believe it

[46:30] should be 2603. So we'll we'll make that correction before those get get posted.

[46:35] » Thank you. That's all I have. >> Councor Murray.

[46:37] » Uh back to the harvest festival. Are they not using the uh law park and the

[46:44] village parking facilities for harvest festival? But I did not see any drawings

[46:49] as there were last year. And I'm just curious uh are they using these two

[46:55] facilities as well or is it just going to be a rec center?

[46:58] » They they are using those for the um the artists the vendors and then the the

[47:04] other vendors will be in the >> in our packet. I am not sure

[47:11] » uh because what I was curious about and I asked this question last year I will

[47:15] ask again this year is of the applications that the village has

[47:19] received how many are within the village and how many are outside the village in

[47:25] terms of business licenses the applications that go with the harvest

[47:29] festival >> is anybody from the harvest festival

[47:32] here tonight

[47:37] It's always a good idea for anyone who has a consent agenda. I don't

[47:41] » Tony's here. >> Tony Mes Tony, why don't you get up and

[47:44] answer the question, please?

[47:52] » I'm sorry, counselor. Uh, ask me again. I heard most of it, but I'm not sure

[47:57] what the final question was. >> All right. Final question is how many

[48:00] applications have you received that are with from within the village and how

[48:05] many applications are from outside the village

[48:07] » for the vendors for the food trucks for >> well for the vendors for

[48:11] » the short answer is I don't have and I don't know that we tabulate we can it's

[48:16] not all that terribly difficult um how many of the artists are correlenos how

[48:24] many are from outside the village um it would be easier because we used to

[48:31] give the Coral Angos like a $10 break or something. And the food trucks, I don't

[48:36] believe any of the food trucks are from within are based within Corales or owned

[48:43] by Coralenos. >> I would agree with that.

[48:46] » Um I think a

[48:50] offthe cuff Sy's here. She might have it better on board. Well, I mean, last time

[48:55] it was uh by business licenses purchased at the village offices by those

[49:01] requiring because they had to be licensed within the

[49:05] » we do uh mandate that they get a business registration.

[49:10] » Yes, >> that they they may not be here without

[49:14] that registration. >> I was just curious maybe the village had

[49:17] something, you know, with that. >> Can can I interject a thought on that?

[49:20] Um, any business that's already in the village wouldn't go get a business

[49:24] license for the grow for the harvest vessel. They would already have one. So,

[49:27] that would be a tough metric as well because if they're already operating in

[49:30] compliance, they already have a business license.

[49:32] » But the village should have a you know, if he's if he's got a list, it should

[49:37] match up with the village licenses, >> right? I think if if you apply for a

[49:43] vendor table, it seems like you put your address down on it on that uh on that

[49:48] vendor application >> that is required on

[49:52] » and so you should the data should be there as far as where

[49:56] the vendors are are from >> if

[50:02] I don't think I'm committing this too much. We can get that information to

[50:06] you. I the food trucks I'm pretty sure. >> I'm just curious, you know, as to

[50:11] participation, you know, how many are inside the building or participating

[50:14] versus the outside building. >> We also have the businesses

[50:19] that are staged over here around this building. Um, and I think most of those

[50:26] are not coroused. When we get to the artists, I think a good percent very

[50:32] solid percentage of >> I was just curious too also why the maps

[50:35] weren't included for the village parking lot in launch audit.

[50:40] » They I know they were in because I submitted the event happen. Okay.

[50:44] » So I know they were attached. I >> Yeah, it it may have Yeah. I I I don't

[50:50] know. I wasn't um involved in that part, but it may have been when it brought got

[50:55] brought over from the parks and recck commission. Maybe a page got misplaced.

[50:59] I'm not too sure, but what we can we can track that down. And also just a point

[51:03] of order, if if we have if we want to discuss items on the consent agenda,

[51:06] they really should be pulled off for discussion. So this we're really kind of

[51:10] out of order here. So just just saying

[51:16] » if anybody wanted to pull an item off of the agenda,

[51:21] » councelor Wman. >> Yes. [clears throat] only um for points

[51:25] of clarification the um all the issues dealing with uh parah

[51:31] just so we can get a further uh explanation for the police and fire and

[51:36] um staff.

[51:40] » Can we pull those off as a group or do we have to pull them off individually?

[51:43] » As a group is fine. >> I can make a motion. So just make a

[51:45] motion to pull off items four through eight.

[51:48] I make a motion we remove items four through eight uh from the consent agenda

[51:52] for further discussion. >> Any any discussion on that?

[51:58] All in favor say I. >> I.

[52:01] » Opposed say no. >> Motion carries. Okay.

[52:06] » So then we should approve the the motion to the consent agenda agenda and then

[52:11] you can move on. Yeah. >> Unless somebody wants to discuss this

[52:15] some more. items one through three. Any more

[52:19] discussion? Okay. Um,

[52:24] so there's a motion in a second to approve the consent agenda numbers 1,

[52:28] two, and three. >> Also, items seven and eight or I'm

[52:31] sorry, nine and 10. They're on the back of the agenda.

[52:34] » And nine and 10. Um,

[52:40] all in favor, please say I. >> I.

[52:43] » Oppose, say no. Motion carries. Going to the items four through six.

[52:50] Four through eight. Now they were withdrawn from the consent agenda. Um

[52:56] is there a motion to approve them? Is there discussion?

[52:59] » Motion to approve. >> Any second discussion? No. Mr.

[53:05] » Mayor, I raised this issue. We have a number of members of both fire and

[53:09] police and and village staff here tonight. And um

[53:15] I just wanted to uh add what uh the administrator said earlier, how much we

[53:19] appreciate uh all their efforts. Uh we actually had a uh two uh firefighters

[53:26] come out and do a fire inspection uh to back up the uh uh business license

[53:31] application for uh animal rescue group for harvest festival today. And they

[53:36] were terrific. And uh it's just emblematic of what this what this

[53:40] village has. And perhaps uh Melanie, you could talk about the history of where

[53:45] you said it's it's taken many many years to get to to this level. Yeah.

[53:48] » And what it really means for for our employees.

[53:52] » Yeah. So so what this means is now uh the police and fire department are at

[53:56] the highest level. When when they retire, they will get the maximum amount

[54:00] available to them. Um, so if somebody were to start now and they worked the

[54:04] the right number of years, they theoretically could retire on 100% of

[54:09] their their highest salary when when they do retire. So our our current

[54:14] employees who have been with us a long time, they they they get different

[54:17] buckets. So they get the the buckets that they earned when we were under, you

[54:21] know, plan one and plan two and then plan three. We're skipping plan four and

[54:25] now we're going to plan five. So, this this really um will take care of our our

[54:29] firefighters after they've they've completed their careers here with us and

[54:33] and our police department. Sorry, Chief. Didn't didn't mean to forget you guys.

[54:38] Um so, police and fire. Um and also this this process for these five resolutions.

[54:46] We started this exa almost exactly a year ago. So the I was looking back at

[54:51] my emails last night and this kicked off I believe July 7th of last year with

[54:55] with um Deputy Chief Latin had sent an email to our PAR representative and said

[55:01] how do we start this process and we have multiple emails back and forth of you

[55:05] know this is what you need to do and then we would wait for them and this is

[55:08] what you need to do. So we would send them you know our um our drafts and then

[55:12] we'd have to wait a couple of weeks and then we'd get those back. So yeah, just

[55:16] just this portion has been a year in the making.

[55:20] » But this also affects uh the village employees.

[55:24] » Yes. Right. >> Yep.

[55:26] » Thank you for keeping us safe. Be safe out there.

[55:32] » So yeah, they um so the the the remainder of the village employees that

[55:36] are under municipal plan two um unfortunately plan two is the highest we

[55:41] can go for our municipal staff. They they do offer up to plan four, but they

[55:44] locked out plans three and and four a long time ago before the village um had

[55:48] the opportunity to um take advantage of that for our municipal employees. So, uh

[55:53] what what we're doing for our municipal staff is the village is picking up a

[55:57] portion of their um their contributions. So that this will will pick up the

[56:03] contributions for police and fire so that they they don't pay any more into

[56:08] or they they aren't having deducted from their paycheck anymore than they

[56:11] currently are under plan three. So the village is picking up the remainder of

[56:15] that. And then for municipal staff, they're dropping from the 12 point I

[56:21] think it's 12.65% down to about 9%. And you know, and I

[56:26] know when you look at the resolutions, it looks weird because it says, you

[56:29] know, we're picking up 48%, but it's a percentage over a percentage. And I had

[56:32] to break out my math brain and go back to, you know, high school algebra and be

[56:36] like, okay, I'm doing a percentage of a percentage. And, um, we had some

[56:40] discussions back and forth about what was the proper way to do that. So, um,

[56:43] but yeah, no, this has been a very long process. And this was the the dream back

[56:49] when they very first, um, voted for PRA 19 years ago. So, for and as part of

[56:56] many other reasons. >> You hear their presence right now.

[56:58] » Yeah, exactly. >> And I'd like to thank uh public safety,

[57:02] too. And as I wrote in the mayor's report, New Mexico is number one and and

[57:07] u uh property crimes number two in violent crimes. And fortunately, Corales

[57:12] is number one probably in the state and having a good crime record and and a big

[57:18] part of that is probably our public safety, our police, and our fire

[57:22] departments. Uh, and so I think they um they they really make us a a place to

[57:28] live. Um, and I think doing giving them an increase in their parah helps

[57:34] retention. I mean, that's a big thing. You know, we're competing with

[57:37] municipalities who have more bucks than we do.

[57:41] » And to to keep our roles of public safety employees, you

[57:48] know, we have to compete somehow and sometimes we can't compete salary wise.

[57:51] So the PAR really helps and so I I I really encourage support of this.

[57:58] » Yep. Thank you. >> Uh councelor Mera.

[58:01] » Thank you Mr. Mayor. Hopefully just a real quick question. Tanya on this one

[58:05] if you can go back about 20 some years ago maybe 30 unfortunately. Uh we had a

[58:10] perra situation and a erb uh situation in Santa Fair. Are you familiar with

[58:16] that a little bit? >> Mayor, council administrator Romero.

[58:21] Yes. >> Okay. Uh and you know how that one was

[58:23] unequal and boy they've been trying to make that equalized as representative

[58:27] over here for the last 30 years. Does this help or if not does it make it

[58:33] equal and even if do plan five and doing 46% and the 23% will that even and make

[58:40] it equal starting from here on out? So, mayor, council, administrator Romero, do

[58:48] you mean equal to what most municipalities do? No.

[58:52] » So, you go to each other in terms of >> So, there's tier one. Yeah.

[58:56] » So, to be in tier one for PAR, you had to be into PAR before July 1st of 2013.

[59:02] » Okay. >> So, some of us are old enough.

[59:05] » I think there's three of us still left that are in tier one. And then I got two

[59:10] back there that are in tier two. So the main things that changes is tier tier

[59:16] one we we are at a 20 year retirement. We can go up to 100. I will remind you

[59:22] I'm blended. I'm one two three and five. So but people who are tier one

[59:28] technically can go to a 20-year retirement um or stay and then it builds

[59:32] up to up to 180 100% of their top three years. two or two employees it's 25

[59:39] years and then they can build up. >> Okay.

[59:42] » Um what we proposed when chief was doing

[59:46] this is right now fireplace we paid 13% of our salary to PAR what we pay you're

[59:54] paying 20.8

[59:57] this is off the top of my head police pays 10% of their salary to PAR village

[1:00:03] staff pays 12.65 65. We proposed just to keep it well, we first proposed it to

[1:00:09] keep it at 10 and 12.5, but we we went to three instead. So then we proposed to

[1:00:14] keep it at 12.5 or 13 and 10.5 and then drop the others. Um mo you can only pick

[1:00:22] up 75%. That is state law. State law says a municipality cannot pick up any

[1:00:27] more than 75% of the employees per so a lot of municipalities do pick up all but

[1:00:32] 4%. But we knew that this is the village. So we said we've been doing

[1:00:37] this. We we our staff is surviving. Let's we'll do it this way.

[1:00:41] » Okay. >> And we respectfully hope you vote for

[1:00:43] it. >> Okay. Thank you,

[1:00:45] » Council Murray. >> Yeah. So that does raise point though.

[1:00:48] If you hire somebody who has a number of years either one or two, does it take

[1:00:54] him x number of years to get to the number five or they automatically moved

[1:00:58] into step five? Mayor, Council, and Administrator

[1:01:02] Merrill, that's a really good question. I've actually done a lot of research on

[1:01:06] that recently because I've been with the village and she chief's been with

[1:01:11] village since 96. I've been here since 97 before PAR. So, we could buy time. We

[1:01:16] we could buy time to retire at a lower rate than airtime. Um,

[1:01:22] but what they're going to do is they're going to look at how long I was at one,

[1:01:28] how long I was at two, how long I was at three, how long I stay at five. And

[1:01:34] there's math calculations they're going to do and say cuz right now for fire and

[1:01:38] I believe police it's 3.5 is our tier one multiplier.

[1:01:44] Um, they're going to look at all of us and say,

[1:01:49] "This is your number. You're at 2 for so long, 2.5 for so long, you're at 3.5 for

[1:01:55] so long." And they're going to multiply it together and maybe I'm 3.2. I won't

[1:02:00] know till I go sit down with PAR. But they they are going to blend it. So the

[1:02:04] longer I'm in PAR 5, the better it is. But for chief trying to build so when we

[1:02:10] all retire that you have staff that have been here and want to continue serving

[1:02:14] the public in the way that we've grown accustomed to.

[1:02:18] They will be not blended. >> Thank you.

[1:02:22] » Okay. Any other questions or discussion on this?

[1:02:31] Are we prepared? Go ahead. >> Move approval.

[1:02:33] » Okay. Uh second. >> Second.

[1:02:37] Okay. Are are we are we including four through eight then?

[1:02:43] » Yes. Okay. Why you make a motion then? >> Just as a a generic point of order

[1:02:46] because we pulled them from the consent agenda. We have to go through them one

[1:02:50] by one. I I apologize for that but it is the way it has to be. Thank you.

[1:02:54] » You're the worst. [laughter] >> In that case I I move approval for item

[1:03:00] number four. >> Second.

[1:03:02] » Any discussion? All in favor, please say I. I. Roll call vote because it's a

[1:03:07] recipe. It's going to take a little roll call.

[1:03:12] Councelor Mera. >> Yes, sir.

[1:03:13] » Councelor Wman. >> Hi.

[1:03:14] » Councelor Knight. Hi. >> Councelor Bouquet.

[1:03:16] » Hi. >> Councilor Murray.

[1:03:17] » Yes. Four times. [laughter]

[1:03:20] » Nice try. >> Can I have a motion to approve item

[1:03:25] number five? >> Approve item five.

[1:03:27] » Any second? >> Any discussion?

[1:03:32] Um, so we'll call for a roll call vote. Councelor Mera.

[1:03:36] » Yes, sir. >> Councelor Wman, hi.

[1:03:38] » Councelor Knight. Councelor Bet. >> Hi.

[1:03:40] » Councelor Murray. >> Yes.

[1:03:42] » Good. Motion carries. Um, I have a motion to approve item number six and

[1:03:49] » second. We'll give it tonight.

[1:03:55] » I'll second that. >> Okay. Any discussion?

[1:04:00] All in favor, please say I. >> No.

[1:04:05] » Councelor Mley, >> yes.

[1:04:06] » Councelor Mette, >> I councelor N.

[1:04:08] » Councelor Wman. Hi. >> Councelor Mera.

[1:04:10] » Yes, sir. >> Uh, item number six. May I have a motion

[1:04:14] to approve item number six? >> Item seven, I think.

[1:04:19] » Item seven, I'm sorry. >> So, move.

[1:04:21] » Second. >> Uh, any discussion?

[1:04:25] Roll call vote. Councelor Mera. >> Yes, sir.

[1:04:28] » Councelor Wman. >> Hi. Councelor Knight.

[1:04:29] » Hi. >> Councelor Bquette.

[1:04:30] » I. >> Councelor Murray.

[1:04:32] » Yes. >> I have a motion to approve item number

[1:04:34] eight. Now >> so move.

[1:04:36] » Second. >> Any discussion?

[1:04:40] » Roll call vote. Councelor Murray. >> Yes.

[1:04:42] » Councelor Burquette. >> I.

[1:04:43] » Councelor Knight. >> Councelor Wman.

[1:04:45] » Hi. >> Councelor Mera.

[1:04:46] » Yes, sir. >> Motion carries. So items four through

[1:04:50] eight all were approved. Uh Chief, you want to say a few words?

[1:05:01] Mayor, council, administrator. Um, just want to say thank you. Um, I'm looking

[1:05:07] up here at the pictures of the mayors and stuff and I heard a word earlier

[1:05:12] about persistence and I could tell you that from I wasn't always, you know,

[1:05:17] chief at the time, but we've always been an advocate for our staff and employees.

[1:05:21] when I became chief, I've been persistent uh to the point of, you know,

[1:05:26] every budget we have to look at, you know, do we do a cost of living or can

[1:05:32] we increase our our costs or employees wages and it was almost like even and

[1:05:37] odd years and then the odd years were like how can we try to justify pay so

[1:05:41] it's literally 19 years in the making and I just want to mayor thank you for

[1:05:47] you know our budget meetings and and hearing us out the police chiefs behind

[1:05:51] me here. Uh I'm speaking on behalf of the fire department, but this is huge

[1:05:55] for us as far as my staff here for me all the time. Thank you and what a good

[1:06:00] job they're doing. But tonight by with your vote, you're showing not only the

[1:06:05] staff of the village, your employees that serve this community how much you

[1:06:10] appreciate that. So, thank you. >> Thank you.

[1:06:18] Castle. Uh I echo what the fire chief said. Just thank you and we are

[1:06:22] confident it's going to help with recruitment and retention which has been

[1:06:25] a battle for us uh competing with these large agencies in the metro area here

[1:06:30] and uh may have already worked. We have a guy starting with us on Tuesday and we

[1:06:34] told him it wasn't a done deal yet but this was one of the selling points. So

[1:06:37] thank you very much. >> Thank you very much.

[1:06:43] Mayor, what question? Good. >> Yes, councelor Mur.

[1:06:45] » Could both uh the chiefs uh tell us where your staffing levels are at right

[1:06:50] now? >> We are at uh will be Tuesday at 16 out

[1:06:55] of 17 sworn positions. So that's the 6% uh vacancy rate and we have another

[1:07:00] applicant who is certified in the background phase right now. If we do

[1:07:05] reach full staffing, the 17 out of 17 budgeted positions, it'll be the first

[1:07:10] time since 2021, at which time we were only budgeted 15

[1:07:14] positions. When we when we got bumped up to 16 and then to 17, we never reached

[1:07:19] the maximum number. >> Thank you, Chief.

[1:07:21] » So, thank you.

[1:07:27] » I apologize. I didn't hear the question. >> I was just wondering where your current

[1:07:30] staffing levels at. or how many positions are open or full staff or

[1:07:34] » mayor, council, we're at full staff. Uh we have we have hired uh our our

[1:07:40] vacancies have been filled. So we're currently in the process of training

[1:07:43] them. We started last week. Uh this is the second week in training and we're

[1:07:47] doing we're starting with uh internal trainings with wildland. focus on

[1:07:51] wildland fire that we could do in house. And then we're actively looking for uh

[1:07:56] EMT classes availability and then of course the fire one, fire two uh

[1:08:02] certifications through the state of New Mexico at the Sakura Academy.

[1:08:06] » Thank you very much, G. >> Yeah, thank you.

[1:08:08] » Thank you.

[1:08:15] Uh, next item, old business number one, consideration, action, and approval of

[1:08:20] resolution 2615, publication for ordinance 2602, an

[1:08:26] ordinance providing no parking areas along residential streets, neighboring

[1:08:31] commercial establishments. Uh, may I have a motion to open this up?

[1:08:37] » So move. >> Second.

[1:08:40] Okay, there's been a motion to second. Any discussion?

[1:08:44] Yes, Councelor Murray. >> Thank you, Mayor. So, uh, in looking at

[1:08:48] this draft, I have come to the conclusion that the parking ordinance

[1:08:53] does not belong in zoning. I believe it belongs somewhere either in 1492, which

[1:08:58] is the I think the uh current legal or where things are cited, but it needs a

[1:09:05] little bit of work. Uh, I'm not totally agree. I mean, I don't totally disagree

[1:09:10] with all the language, but I think it just needs to be reorganized and put

[1:09:13] into 1492 rather than under 1839. Also, uh there are concerns I have about

[1:09:20] the uh changing the seating ordinance because there are some issues there that

[1:09:26] uh we haven't addressed. That is that one, you're asking to amend the seating

[1:09:32] ordinance and not repeal the previous one. So either we need to repeal the old

[1:09:37] ordinance and insert this one as new language because if we don't we're going

[1:09:41] to have confliction because you've got an old ordinance and a new ordinance and

[1:09:45] there's conflicting uh components of both if you have both of them at the

[1:09:50] same time. So I think we need to repeal the original 1839 C2 and then insert the

[1:09:56] new language at that point. You also need to grandfather in the existing STPs

[1:10:02] because if you don't, then if somebody asks an amended STP, they're going to

[1:10:07] have to come in under the new language. And is that fair for our businesses that

[1:10:11] if they have to want to amend their SDP that now they have to comply with the

[1:10:16] new seating ordinance and the parking versus the old one that they originally

[1:10:21] got their uh site development plan under? So, there are some things there I

[1:10:26] think need to be addressed. I I know this. I worked on this about all

[1:10:30] afternoon trying to figure out how to reorganize this and it's and councelor

[1:10:35] Bquerette will kill me because I got 14 different amendments that I need.

[1:10:40] [laughter] He's going to murder me. Step out the

[1:10:43] door, you know. >> But I I just really think that we need

[1:10:47] to readress this and move it into 1492 or some other location where it is now

[1:10:52] an enforcement issue and not a zoning issue. A question might be, you know, do

[1:10:58] you think there they're different issues and they ought to be addressed different

[1:11:02] issues instead of lumped together all in one uh ordinance. That does bring up the

[1:11:06] question about we were putting one uh we were creating a paragraph 15 that was to

[1:11:12] go in under 1492 and I think we just need to create a new

[1:11:16] subsection that deals with enforcement and that way it doesn't there was an

[1:11:21] issue where you might have an officer who might site somebody and then he

[1:11:26] could have his vehicle towed at the same time. Now is that correct? I don't know,

[1:11:30] but I think we need to take a look at that and just uh I think there are

[1:11:33] things there that we just need to resolve before we put this into an

[1:11:36] ordinance. >> Briquette.

[1:11:39] » Uh thank you, mayor. Um so two kind of separate points or thoughts. One is on

[1:11:45] this what you're talking about as far as the

[1:11:48] um parking per two chairs. Um I don't think it I don't think it's a reasonable

[1:11:54] number. Um, I went to two of our probably most reputable establishments

[1:11:58] in town. From a parking standpoint, I've never heard a single complaint about

[1:12:02] overflow parking. Um, one of them has a 100 seats and 25 parking spots. Um, the

[1:12:08] other one has 70 parking spots and they have I didn't go inside this place, but

[1:12:13] they have in my mind probably close to 200 seats. Um

[1:12:18] there is no way that if they were to try to come into the village and again these

[1:12:22] are model citizens, model businesses, there is no way they could come into the

[1:12:27] village and meet these criteria. Um so I just don't think it's a reasonable

[1:12:32] number. um on a grander scale um and I actually think this is a very

[1:12:36] well-ritten policy and I think it's something we may have to go to but I

[1:12:40] would love to see I mean I think there's these spectrums that we have to look at

[1:12:44] when we're looking at all of our policies friendly unfriendly using

[1:12:48] resources that we have now versus going to get new resources uh unintended

[1:12:52] consequences versus limited unintended consequences and I think we have to have

[1:12:56] the desire to do the stuff on the left left side of the spectrum whenever

[1:13:00] possible uh and probably an obligation to do that. And we have empty lots in

[1:13:04] the village that we're doing site development plans on that I would like

[1:13:08] to see those site development plans happen prior to us enacting anything uh

[1:13:13] new on parking with parking on those and with signs that say village parking so

[1:13:19] we can see if that relieves the parking pressure because even if it relieves it

[1:13:23] 75% then maybe we need a different version of this. But if we have empty

[1:13:27] lots sitting next to businesses and I feel like we owe the citizens, we owe

[1:13:31] the businesses um a solution and it's sitting right there with really limited

[1:13:36] stuff and we're working on these site developments already that um we're not

[1:13:40] doing our job if we're not putting parking on some of those and giving

[1:13:43] people a friendly an option without unintended consequences um to solve this

[1:13:49] problem before we put up signs all over the village. So, I would move that if we

[1:13:52] do move this thing forward, I'm going to want to amend it to where we don't do so

[1:13:57] until we have those site development plans with parking in place and we see

[1:14:00] if that solves the problem. I'd like to bring up an issue too of um

[1:14:08] uh couple things that weren't addressed in

[1:14:12] in this version uh had that have been brought up before is where do you have

[1:14:17] the signs? What do the signs mean? Um, and also if council bur wants to hold a

[1:14:24] barbecue party at his home, uh, where can those people park? Uh, this

[1:14:29] ordinance doesn't allow that. Um, I'll just throw something out just just

[1:14:35] for, you know, discussion. um that maybe um talking about the neighbor commercial

[1:14:42] zone uh you have a sign no park residents parking only coming into the

[1:14:49] street from Corales and 300 ft back you have another sign that addresses the

[1:14:55] traffic coming into so you have incoming traffic on that residential road you

[1:15:01] have no parking signs between those signs coming in from Carales Road and

[1:15:05] coming in from interior drains. Say there'll be a new no parking uh sign 350

[1:15:11] ft deep uh along that road. Uh another another issue is is um you know uh

[1:15:20] having uh council burst barbecue party or

[1:15:24] anybody else's um you know I wonder whether there should be an allowance for

[1:15:30] guests of of a resident and um I think it's really simple and actually this

[1:15:37] afternoon I I mocked up a a little sign here

[1:15:42] and something like This can be put on the dashboard of the car and basically

[1:15:49] it says guest. You're a guest of a resident who lives there. The resident's

[1:15:56] address is here right below guest. So if anybody has a question who is the host

[1:16:01] of the guest, the address is right there. There's a permit number.

[1:16:07] the car uh Ford 250 truck white license plate number and the days and and it's

[1:16:13] just you know half a dozen data points and it allows for people to have guests

[1:16:19] at their place um parties graduations um you know so it's not no parking no

[1:16:26] parking is simple but yet it seems to have allowance for guests would be

[1:16:33] reasonable I know that Um I and Melanie have looked into several possibilities

[1:16:38] of either doing this online. Um maybe through the website that we currently

[1:16:44] have or using a separate vendor links to the website and or you know a very

[1:16:50] simple thing is uh a resident can just write this out. I mean it's just the

[1:16:55] number of data is very small. It's a guest. It's got my address there. If

[1:17:00] anybody has a question there's my address. I'm home. The the license plate

[1:17:06] number, the descriptor of the car, and the date. I mean, that it's just I I

[1:17:12] think it it's an easy way to accommodate having guests. So, I think just to throw

[1:17:16] that in the mix of as we discussed a no parking ordinance, uh there a lot of

[1:17:21] different components of this where there you know go to seating um number of

[1:17:26] parking places per seats, tables, that sort of stuff. um uh no parking on

[1:17:32] residential streets. Uh I think one or two things that have been brought up is

[1:17:38] you know where the science place and what about gas and and I think I just

[1:17:42] like to throw this out to add to the discussion of you know how we how we

[1:17:48] design uh a no parking in uh residential areas uh ordinance. Yes, councelor

[1:17:54] Murray. Well, so to add to that, my son lives up around the wheel Wilshire in

[1:17:58] Jefferson and during Bloomfest, they close off Jefferson, but they have a

[1:18:03] placard that gets issued by the Bloom Festa. Basically just says gives them

[1:18:07] permission as long as you got that placard in your windshield, you're

[1:18:11] allowed into the area. It it doesn't require any

[1:18:15] addresses, doesn't require any uh information about the car, but as long

[1:18:19] as you got that placard, you're allowed into that area. That's that's all we

[1:18:23] have to do. We could even include just say dates, you know, three days or

[1:18:28] whatever it is, date one, you know, it could be June 1st through June 3rd. I

[1:18:32] think that would probably cover it, but that'd be myology.

[1:18:35] » Um, if if I may, mayor and council, um, I I have been looking into different

[1:18:39] solutions for this. Um, we we did ask our attorneys to weigh in on, you know,

[1:18:44] the the legality of residential parking only. and their recommendation is that,

[1:18:50] you know, from a a legal perspective, we should have some sort of permitting

[1:18:55] process. And so I've I've have had two meetings so far. Um, one with a company

[1:19:01] called um Shau, and they they do um sort of a uh build from scratch parking

[1:19:10] solution. And so they they would be able to create a a website, a app, whatever

[1:19:16] we want that would be able to do these parking permits where people could to do

[1:19:20] could register for them online. However, it would take up to 6 months and $60,000

[1:19:27] to do that. Yesterday, I had a meeting with a company called Honk, um which you

[1:19:32] know, it's just it's kind of fun to say. um their recommendation when I explained

[1:19:36] what the situation was is the guy's first question was do you have public

[1:19:41] parking available somewhere in the village. So that was his first

[1:19:44] recommendation. Um second recommendation is they can do something for us but um

[1:19:50] the way their app works is you have to have paid parking and that's how the the

[1:19:54] app gets paid for. So, we would we would then have to we we could do a solution

[1:19:58] where if a resident could prove that they live in the village, they would

[1:20:02] have to pro provide their car registration, which I don't know that

[1:20:05] anybody would want to do, but they would have to prove somehow that they're a

[1:20:09] resident of the village and then they could have free parking. Um but then I

[1:20:13] have another um another meeting scheduled for tomorrow. So, that's just

[1:20:17] sort of what I'm learning so far. So, there are options to be able to do this

[1:20:22] this sort of thing. Um, but it just depends on how much we want to pay for

[1:20:26] it. >> That's so nice.

[1:20:27] » Thank you, mayor. I think it's it's too much rigor. If you live up

[1:20:34] in the sand hills, just go to your neighbor and say, "I'm having a party

[1:20:37] tonight. There's going to be more cars on the street." If it's only for like

[1:20:42] one day for four hours, I don't think most people would argue with that. I I

[1:20:48] think they having to go and get signs and and permits, it's going to be a

[1:20:52] mess. and people aren't going to like it because it's extra work.

[1:20:57] » Um, you know, down in the commercial district's a little different, but you

[1:21:01] know, up where I live, right? >> You know, things like that, you just go

[1:21:05] to your neighbor and say, "Yeah, you can park there for a couple hours. It's it's

[1:21:09] no big deal." >> Right. This was what I said was just

[1:21:12] pertains to the neighborhood commercial area, not the Sand Hills.

[1:21:16] » Okay. So So this you're only talking about the the

[1:21:20] » neighborhood commercial zone. Oh, >> this Lori would like to

[1:21:29] » other people. Okay, >> counselors, mayor, administrator, if if

[1:21:34] I might. Um, we're we're not going to cover the

[1:21:40] village with signs. Let me just read and kind of tell you what the intent was

[1:21:45] when planning and zoning uh and I were talking about this, the commission

[1:21:49] rather. Um, it's section 1839 off- streetet parking

[1:21:54] requirements. That that section already exists and people who have commercial

[1:21:59] site development plan applications are referred to that section. And so what it

[1:22:04] would now say commercial parking on residential streets upon notice by code

[1:22:10] enforcement or when warranted by ongoing public safety concerns. So, we're

[1:22:15] talking about ongoing chronic issues really having to do with commercial

[1:22:20] parking um and residential streets. In those instances, the village

[1:22:25] administrator may direct that any part of a residential street be posted with

[1:22:29] signs reading no parking. This will be used judiciously and in a

[1:22:35] limited fast fashion. Um, Carllis PD will have their full discretion as to

[1:22:41] how to handle a situation. Um, I I just want to assure you that it's

[1:22:46] it's really a limited scope. We're we're not talking about the neighborhood

[1:22:51] barbecue or oneoffs. We're talking about chronic ongoing issues. If there was a

[1:22:56] neighborhood that had some sort of chronic ongoing issue with a say a home

[1:23:01] occupation, it might be suitable in that case. But again, it would have to be

[1:23:05] upon notice by the code enforcement officer or EMS that there's there's this

[1:23:10] issue and it won't it won't quit and we need to look at it there and then the

[1:23:14] administrator would have to agree. So, I just want to assure you it's not going

[1:23:18] to be blanketing the village with signs. Actually there uh there are five uh

[1:23:24] persons from the public who would like to speak. So why don't we just interject

[1:23:28] that now and then we can discuss more afterwards. So um Mandy

[1:23:33] » Sandy Rasmusen

[1:23:40] » Sandy Rasmusen 65 Target Road I'm going to put this in my mouth because it's the

[1:23:45] only way it works. So, I am not going to dispute the parking thing, although you

[1:23:50] all had good ideas, but I just would like to bring forth the idea that if

[1:23:55] we're not going to allow parking on side streets, that we need to provide

[1:23:59] alternatives. Um, I'd like to see both the Anderson and the Gonzalez Field have

[1:24:06] parking spaces. Anderson can cover Heritage House or whatever it's called,

[1:24:10] and the rec center. Um but down where the meat of the traffic is, Gonzalez is

[1:24:17] a necessary thing. So just think about this. But many of them you've already

[1:24:21] said, um but we have many residents that do not live,

[1:24:26] they live in the sand hills up there. They can't walk down to support our

[1:24:31] village or come and enjoy it. We have an aging population that may not be able to

[1:24:36] walk very far. We have very little parking for Lra Park. that is

[1:24:42] not private property. Um, and we seem to forget that the rural feeling we are all

[1:24:48] trying to sustain doesn't have sidewalks, which none of us, including

[1:24:52] me, do not want to see, but walking long distance is not always practical. That

[1:24:57] our rural field can be sustained and still include those that are not

[1:25:01] residents. And since we don't have a plan yet

[1:25:05] except for bathrooms for the Gonzalez Field, um if we even could put temporary

[1:25:10] parking there and see how that works because that was kind of what was

[1:25:13] mentioned by a lot of you. But and this doesn't necessarily have to do with

[1:25:17] parking, but it is part of the problem. So the saddest thing of all is that we

[1:25:22] used to be a village that supported each other. If we had an issue, we went and

[1:25:26] talked to our neighbor. We didn't come and make an ordinance. And all this

[1:25:30] bickering I feel is dividing us and that's changing the feel of our village

[1:25:35] way more than any outsiders. There are many people in this room who are

[1:25:40] coralenos also and we really do care about our village. So I hope that we can

[1:25:46] start to work together again and be the village that we used to be. Thank you.

[1:25:51] » Thank you. Next >> Bob Ike.

[1:25:56] Bob Ike,

[1:26:06] Bob, I of course live in Corales. Uh

[1:26:12] we can't have any loopholes. Every ordinance that's being written has

[1:26:17] a loophole in it. How many signs is it? One be one sign from here all the way to

[1:26:22] Lrada. No, you can't stop all that parking.

[1:26:26] Is it between signs? It's got to be spelled out. You cannot put in the

[1:26:30] ordinance that it will be done judiciously.

[1:26:33] That doesn't work. Who in the heck's judicious?

[1:26:37] You have to spell out each particular that you want to control.

[1:26:43] As soon as you start saying we can put signs here and there and in between,

[1:26:48] you've destroyed the village. And that's not what we're here for.

[1:26:52] We're here to protect the village. So be careful with your signs. Be

[1:26:57] careful with your ordinance. No loopholes.

[1:27:01] It and indeference said it cannot be done judiciously.

[1:27:06] If we change administrators, we change P&Z,

[1:27:09] what's the next person going to do? That's what you can't allow for. You

[1:27:14] can't allow for an unknown. So everything has to be spelled out. It has

[1:27:20] to be it has to be clear as you can get or else there's going to be people like

[1:27:25] me that'll come up here and find holes in it and complain.

[1:27:29] So, just be very careful. We don't need

[1:27:34] permits. Uh Fred sign is great. If you have to have colored paper makes a damn

[1:27:41] good permit. It damn sure doesn't cost 60,000 bucks

[1:27:44] or 6,000 bucks. Colored paper is pretty cheap. But no, let's be very careful and

[1:27:53] I don't mind stepping on toes. I do it all the time. But don't stomp on them.

[1:27:59] » Thank you. >> Thank you. Next, Mandy.

[1:28:02] » Um, Charles Polling.

[1:28:08] » Hi, Charles Polling on Priestly Road. Um, feels like deja vu talking to you

[1:28:13] all about parking again. We've done this before. Um, and and this conversation

[1:28:17] sort of tore up. high talking points I think because I see you know there's

[1:28:20] maybe a new direction here but so what I would ask so we live on Priestley uh

[1:28:25] Priestly and Corval get overflow parking from the herited house still okay you

[1:28:30] know it still happens there's public parking right across the street at the

[1:28:34] farmers market people don't use it it's too far and that's a tough crosswalk and

[1:28:38] the crosswalk issue brings up the safety issue which is that when people are

[1:28:42] parking along Priestley uh if you're trying to get out it's a choke point

[1:28:46] there with cars on both sides If you're trying to be a pedestrian through that,

[1:28:49] good luck. And we also have cars, you know, the turn into Priestley and Corval

[1:28:54] going northbound is a little bit of a blind turn on Priestley. We have the

[1:28:59] mailboxes right out near the Corrow Road intersection. You've got cars kind of

[1:29:03] parked on the road. It's just not a good situation. So, I just ask for science. I

[1:29:07] ask you to solve the problem. And I think exemp exemptions can be done. And

[1:29:11] I think it's it's it's just really not accurate to say, "Oh, it's got to be all

[1:29:15] or nothing." Because, you know, you exempt utility com utility workers when

[1:29:19] they're working on the roadside or a tree company. They put cones up. There

[1:29:22] are ways to handle this. You let the police know um you can handle the

[1:29:26] exemption. And of course, we are only talking about the commercial district.

[1:29:29] And right now, I think we all know the problem streets are Corval, Priestley,

[1:29:32] and East and West L. And they just get a lot of overflow. And and you know, you

[1:29:36] can't control what the public does unless you have signs that tell them

[1:29:39] what to do. Thanks. Mayor, can I add one comment to

[1:29:43] something? So, I think the distance to the parking lot is maybe a contributing

[1:29:46] factor, but the fact that the village wants to charge Heritage House to tell

[1:29:51] their patrons to use a public parking lot is another thing. They would put

[1:29:55] signs up. If there was a sign that said free public parking directly across the

[1:29:59] street and everyone saw that, the distance wouldn't be as big of a deal.

[1:30:03] But Heritage House is being told they can't use that parking lot unless they

[1:30:07] rent it from us. And that's nonsense. No, it's I I I I mean, you know, people

[1:30:14] can park the municipal lot, you know, they can park at the bank and

[1:30:21] uh it's not that they can park there, they can't rent it. Uh they can park

[1:30:26] there. I mean, I maybe I'm naive, but >> and they put up a sign that says

[1:30:30] parking, >> but I I think that if Heritage Charge

[1:30:33] House wants to have that lot exclusively for itself, then it pays then it pays a

[1:30:40] fee, whatever it is, 10 bucks an hour or something, which is not much, but if if

[1:30:45] someone wants payment of the heritage house wants to use it, hey, you know, uh

[1:30:51] I that that that's my park here. taking part of the bank.

[1:30:56] » Yes, council Mary. >> So, this also brings up a good point

[1:30:59] that council Burkehead is addressing too. It is unsafe to cross Grow Road

[1:31:05] from the rec center to the Heritage House. We've been after DOT.

[1:31:11] » Oh, sorry. >> Appreciate that.

[1:31:16] » Thank you, Daddy. >> See, you thought I was upset. She was

[1:31:18] really upset with how wordy you were last meeting.

[1:31:20] » It's a coincidence. Sorry. >> But the point is we've been after DOT

[1:31:25] for a a lighted crosswalk at that point >> and at night uh when they were having an

[1:31:31] event getting across crossroad safety. I mean we've got flags there but they are

[1:31:36] not very good at night. >> And I think it's a safety issue as well.

[1:31:40] » Y >> so that that's paramount if we're going

[1:31:43] to allow them to use the rec center. We're going to we're going to be liable

[1:31:46] somewhere on this hook if somebody gets killed crossing that road. Why don't we

[1:31:51] let the two public people who would who signed up to speak speak and then we can

[1:31:55] discuss it further. Uh who's next? Mandy.

[1:31:58] » Troy Howard.

[1:32:06] » Hi Troy Howard. I live in Corales. Uh, dear mayor and members of village

[1:32:10] council, I am reading regarding writing this uh, regarding the proposed

[1:32:16] restrictions on the parking along village rightaways. As a business owner,

[1:32:20] I respectfully ask that the village carefully consider the impact these

[1:32:24] changes may have on local businesses and restaurants uh, residents they serve.

[1:32:30] Many businesses have invested significant time and resources based on

[1:32:34] the current parking conditions. Restricting parking without adequate

[1:32:38] alternatives could reduce customers access and create unnecessary challenges

[1:32:42] for businesses. It will contribute to the character and economic vitality of

[1:32:46] Coralis. If the village believes parking changes are necessary, I encourage the

[1:32:52] council to work collaboratively with business owners to identify particular

[1:32:57] solutions before implementing restrictions. Options such as public

[1:33:01] parking areas, alternative parking locations, zoning modifications, or

[1:33:06] variances could help address concerns while minimizing the impact on local

[1:33:11] businesses. I appreciate your time and consideration and hope that the village

[1:33:15] will work with the businesses to find a solution that benefit the entire

[1:33:19] community. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. Next, Mandy.

[1:33:23] » Mary Bolio.

[1:33:27] » Who was that? >> Mary.

[1:33:34] » Hello again. Um, thank you, mayor, and thank you council members again for

[1:33:40] bringing this important topic for discussion. Um, in addition to the email

[1:33:46] and the photos that I sent you recently, uh, I would like to add to the list of

[1:33:51] safety concerns already mentioned that residents and business owners are not

[1:33:57] trained to deal with the general public. And that is what we're seeing an

[1:34:02] increased influx of the public coming into our village into our neighborhoods.

[1:34:09] Uh it is dangerous in this day and age to approach anyone and ask them to maybe

[1:34:14] move their car because they're blocking our driveway, blocking our trash pickup,

[1:34:19] blocking our access to our trailer when we're taking our green waste. Those

[1:34:24] kinds of things are now dangerous because we don't know always. they're

[1:34:29] not maybe our neighbors. Uh so there's a there's a real need for prof we need

[1:34:35] professional help [laughter] in more ways than one. But uh we do need our law

[1:34:41] enforcement to help us on these times when we feel very vulnerable and

[1:34:47] exposed. We should not be asked to do this on our own. We don't have the

[1:34:52] skills. Um, no parking signs are the key to the law enforcement. They are

[1:35:00] universally understood. So, people coming from other communities, they get

[1:35:05] it and we all understand it. And if we're talking about guests parking in

[1:35:10] front of my house, well, if even if I wanted to have a few friends over, if

[1:35:15] the business overflow parking is is all in front of my house, there's no room

[1:35:20] for my guests to park either. So, what we do is we always stack people in our

[1:35:25] driveway and sometimes we move our cars down the road. We'll ask a neighbor,

[1:35:30] "Can we use one of your parking spots or two for our cars so we can fit more on

[1:35:35] our property?" There are ways of dealing with this as residents. Is it a

[1:35:40] sacrifice? Sure. Is it an adjustment? Sure. Do we accept it because we support

[1:35:46] local business? You bet. It's worth it and it's a unique situation, but it's

[1:35:52] the most important thing is that the children on my street are safe. They can

[1:35:57] get to the mailbox. They can walk across to the pool, to the soccer fields. And

[1:36:02] that is the most important issue here. Consequences are is of not doing

[1:36:09] anything is that something tragic will happen eventually. Let's not wait for

[1:36:14] that. Our community does not need that black eye. We do need to make an

[1:36:19] adjustment. It's it's responsible growth and we can do it. And there are

[1:36:25] sacrifices that need to be made for public safety. And our our law

[1:36:31] enforcement needs the clear distinct signage to enforce the law. And this is

[1:36:36] what they have told us. Please put the signs up for all of our safety. Thank

[1:36:41] you. >> Thank you.

[1:36:45] uh in the discussion by council councelor Roman.

[1:36:48] » Uh yeah, I um strongly support uh councelor Burquette and and councelor

[1:36:55] Murray. Uh we can get public parking first. I think we have uh some resources

[1:37:00] that we can use. Uh I don't know where the site development plans are. Uh we

[1:37:04] hear promises, but apparently they're in the works. Uh but also I think it's

[1:37:09] really important as the councelor Murray pointed out that if we're going to

[1:37:12] encourage people to use public parking on the west side of Corell's Road to get

[1:37:18] to the businesses, there needs to be some kind of lighting. Uh I mean it's

[1:37:22] now uh almost 8:30. All right. 8:10 it's light. Six months from now it's going to

[1:37:29] be dark and through all the winter it's going to be dark and people are going to

[1:37:32] be going to restaurants and bars using the public parking places but along

[1:37:37] Coralis where there needs to be some lighting. Now if it has to be I don't

[1:37:41] know what the depth is beyond uh Corales road that the village can access

[1:37:47] lighting and not interfere with this next do but there's got to be some way

[1:37:52] that we can we can handle that people are people are safe. that's separate and

[1:37:56] apart from the really critical issue of crossing Carellis Road. But it's I think

[1:38:00] that's important as well that that these parking lots are going

[1:38:04] to be not adjacent to but somewhat near the businesses that we're discussing uh

[1:38:10] and and we should use them and before I think before as a gentleman point out

[1:38:14] before we uh delve into parking signs let's see as councelor Bquette indicated

[1:38:20] let's see if these parking lots work and it may be 60% 75%

[1:38:25] um and and we can deal with the rest after that.

[1:38:28] » Marie, >> and also one other question if I could.

[1:38:31] The um the packet indicated that the sign ordinance next meeting is going to

[1:38:36] be on July 23rd. Is that July 23rd or June 23rd?

[1:38:39] » June 23rd. Well, so we have we have a meeting on June 23rd and then we have a

[1:38:43] meeting in in July, I believe also on the 23rd. It's that Thursday night

[1:38:46] meeting that that we had scheduled. So the but the um the uniform traffic

[1:38:51] ordinance, is that the one you're talking about? Yeah, that one will be

[1:38:53] June 2. 23. >> And also, um, if I may answer your

[1:38:57] question, if it's okay, mayor. Sure. >> Um, the Anderson site development plan,

[1:39:02] uh, we do have to wait until after the new fiscal year, um, to be able to issue

[1:39:06] the PO, um, so we don't get ourselves in trouble with our auditor for, you know,

[1:39:11] um, so that site development plan will go into effect as as soon as we can

[1:39:15] issue a PO at the after July 1st. That one is a go. PO4

[1:39:20] » um the the work for the Anderson lot >> to to do the site development plan

[1:39:26] » to to make it a parking lot. Yeah. We we had

[1:39:28] » the site development. >> Yes. To make the site development plan

[1:39:30] for the parking lot that that council saw and and uh voted to move forward

[1:39:34] with for the Gonzalez property. That one is already underway. However, it no

[1:39:38] parking is being considered. The only thing that we were directed to create a

[1:39:42] a plan for was just those bathrooms. So that plan will not show any parking at

[1:39:47] all. you walk to the bathrooms >> unless we choose to add that to the plan

[1:39:51] before it comes out. >> Yep.

[1:39:53] » Okay, >> that's we should do that.

[1:39:55] » Yeah. What's the pathway to do that? Just amend this amend this motion that

[1:39:59] we do that before we do publish and post.

[1:40:01] » I think I think we should um we should probably have it as a as an agenda item

[1:40:05] on the next meeting so that it's properly noticed to the public and that

[1:40:09] that way if if somebody wants to come and show support for having parking on

[1:40:13] the Gonzalez property, they have the opportunity to do that.

[1:40:16] » Okay. Thank you, >> Council Murray.

[1:40:18] » Well, along those lines, and I'm going to support the public parking, but I'm

[1:40:23] also going to support that we reserve a portion of both of these lots as open

[1:40:28] space because at some point, we're going to want to improve these properties and

[1:40:34] make them something beyond other than a parking lot

[1:40:38] » because it's, you know, I love open space. I love but a parking lot it's

[1:40:43] kind of like what's that song you know cut down a tree and put and pave a

[1:40:47] parking lot or put up a parking lot that's not go that's not Corales and I

[1:40:50] want to see something that reflects Corales's values I don't want a wire

[1:40:55] fence I want something that looks attractive and it's going to be enhance

[1:40:59] the village so uh if we're going to have this as a as a item I would support that

[1:41:05] » yeah I I I mean I [clears throat] think parking on the

[1:41:09] gazal side is fine But you know the Gonzalez law can be

[1:41:13] used a lot more than for parking. >> Uh you know I mean I was a part of a

[1:41:18] group that planned proposed a heritage park there um and extension of law park

[1:41:25] and parking was part of it too but not parking right in front on Corales road

[1:41:29] but to have some vegetation buffer to make it to make it more corales instead

[1:41:35] of oh it's a parking lot. And so all that has to be uh talked about and and

[1:41:41] I've there are a half a dozen or so architects who are uh working to try to

[1:41:46] help um us is is is going forth and getting uh architect on call architect

[1:41:55] uh that'll help with some of this planning. So whether it's probably

[1:41:59] better that way than the mayor or the administrator or even

[1:42:04] council sort of drawing up a plan and saying hey you know this is what we

[1:42:07] ought to do but maybe have some have some expertise come in as people have

[1:42:13] talked about doing something professional

[1:42:16] uh before we just say oh yeah we'll make it a parking lot but I mean I think a

[1:42:20] parking lot should be part of it but is not the perhaps a primary part of that

[1:42:26] that that [clears throat] real estate.

[1:42:31] Councelor Knight, >> um, is Anderson also gonna be for the

[1:42:35] growers market? So, it's not just going to be a parking lot, but it'll be also

[1:42:39] for the growers market. >> The growers market can use that.

[1:42:42] Correct. >> Like they use the current growers market

[1:42:47] lot, which is I mean, it's basically a parking lot.

[1:42:50] » So, they can use the Anderson. >> Sure. Everybody knew that that's where

[1:42:54] the growers market's probably going to go to. Yeah, I mean it's got almost two

[1:42:58] acres I think the Anderson law. So that's a a lot of space for Gorers

[1:43:03] Market on Sunday and Wednesday and um parking other times. Yes, Council

[1:43:10] Murray, >> I'm going to call a question.

[1:43:13] » So as a reminder, the the item before you is to approve this resolution 2615.

[1:43:22] » Okay. Councelor uh uh any second. >> We we've already had a motion in a

[1:43:27] second to approve this. >> He called the question.

[1:43:29] » Yeah. So he called the question. >> Okay. I guess it's a roll call vote

[1:43:32] then. >> Correct.

[1:43:34] » Councelor Mira. >> So the way I'm reading this just for

[1:43:38] clarification is uh providing no parking areas along the residential streets

[1:43:43] » and that we have a call for the question on that particular issue and that

[1:43:46] particular issue only. and we're going to be

[1:43:48] » so if what you're voting on is to approve resolution 2615 which would

[1:43:52] publish and post the ordinance as written for approval in July

[1:43:58] » or if we want to have a parking discussion we would

[1:44:00] » so if you want to have a discussion >> vote no

[1:44:02] » you would vote yes no >> vote no

[1:44:07] » councelor Knight >> no

[1:44:08] » councelor Bquette >> no

[1:44:09] » councelor Murray >> no

[1:44:11] » the motion does not pass um moving along

[1:44:16] Um >> if if I may, mayor, does does anyone

[1:44:20] want to make a motion on what to do next so that this because right now this has

[1:44:24] failed. It's gone. >> We will not do any further work on it

[1:44:27] without council's direction. >> I move that we have a discussion about

[1:44:30] parking inside development plans of village owned properties um at the next

[1:44:34] available meeting that we can possibly get that on the schedule for.

[1:44:37] » I second. >> Any discussion?

[1:44:42] Uh, I'm going to for the discussion phase, but I think we're there. Uh, we

[1:44:47] probably there about a year and a half ago when I had a motion that we should

[1:44:51] get both of these properties. We should see how they work together. And we

[1:44:54] already voted yes on that one. It's been a year and a half ago. But that's okay.

[1:44:57] Time heals all. But this is what we're doing and that's fine. So, it's fine

[1:45:01] with me, >> right? I mean, and the parking should

[1:45:04] include maybe the municipal parking lot. Uh, you know, because we have parking

[1:45:09] available there. Um uh maybe it should include the Jones

[1:45:14] property. I don't know. But they're more they're more lost than just the Anderson

[1:45:19] and and I brought it up is because I think we had a motion that we already

[1:45:23] voted on motion I I made a long time ago saying we should get these properties

[1:45:26] see how they work together with one another and I don't think we're doing

[1:45:29] anything different on that motion. So we're okay with that.

[1:45:32] » No, we're still working at that. Okay. Um call the motion. Councelor Mirror,

[1:45:37] how do you vote? >> Yes, sir. Councelor Wman.

[1:45:39] » Hi. >> Councelor Knight. Hi. Councelor

[1:45:41] Berquette. >> Hi.

[1:45:42] » Councelor Murray. >> Yes.

[1:45:43] » Motion carries to have a discussion at the next meeting on parking issues in

[1:45:47] the village. Great. New business discussion and uh of

[1:45:54] process and possible action on the vacancy of the district 4 council seat

[1:45:58] for unexpired term of office per statute NMSA [clears throat]

[1:46:04] 3-21- uh one.

[1:46:09] Um, I do not have a nomination at this time uh for the position. Um, and what

[1:46:17] I'd like to do is is it's been recommended to open up the application

[1:46:21] process for another week and uh perhaps have a nomination next meeting.

[1:46:28] » We may have skipped an item on the uh the power line crossing Corral Road.

[1:46:34] » Nope. That's the next one. >> That's the next one.

[1:46:36] » I'm sorry. That That's the next item. >> Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[1:46:40] » Sorry. >> You stole my house.

[1:46:43] » You're trying to trying to leave early. >> Sharing.

[1:46:46] » Sherry. >> Sharing.

[1:46:48] » Sponsor Murray. >> Well, I was under the impression that we

[1:46:51] were going to postpone this item to the next meeting. Is that correct?

[1:46:56] » Yes. Okay. >> By by state statute, it has to appear on

[1:46:58] every agenda until we get a nomination. >> This has to go up on agenda, though. and

[1:47:03] and mayor and members of council, just for the the sake of keeping it a clean

[1:47:06] record, um my suggestion would be to make a motion to table this until a date

[1:47:11] certain and list the next regular agenda. Um as that date certain to have

[1:47:16] this reappear and we can again table if necessary at that stage.

[1:47:19] » Table or post? >> It's postponed. Table table is only in

[1:47:23] the same meeting. Postpone is moving it to another meeting. I would move that we

[1:47:27] postpone this item to the next meeting, June 23rd.

[1:47:30] » Any second on that? Second. >> Any discussion?

[1:47:35] All in favor say I. >> I.

[1:47:36] » I. >> Any oppose? Motion carries.

[1:47:40] Number two, consideration, action, and appro

[1:47:44] What? Sorry. Consideration action approval of

[1:47:49] resolution 26-35 approval of an overhead power line at 5311 Corales Road pursuant

[1:47:57] to village code land use regulations section 1830 Q4.

[1:48:03] Um may I have a motion to open this up for discussion?

[1:48:07] » Move to approve. >> Second. Second.

[1:48:11] » Any discussion now? Uh councelor Murray. >> Yeah, thank you. So, my only question

[1:48:16] is, and I was looking, I don't know if I was looking at an old fixture uh along

[1:48:19] Carl's Road, but seems to me there is a tree that is next to a utility pole

[1:48:25] right that at that corner of the property. And if we're going to allow a

[1:48:30] power line go across, I want that tree removed because uh it's going to

[1:48:35] interfere with power with later down the road.

[1:48:38] » Um my name is Esther Frederickson. I'm um my partner Kenny Dilap and I were the

[1:48:42] builders. Um, so I put the I can answer questions about the tree.

[1:48:47] » No, I'd like to see the tree removed just basically.

[1:48:49] » Yeah. So, um I mean PNM um asked that we trim the tree. Um so we were going to

[1:48:56] trim the tree in order to >> Is it an elm tree?

[1:48:59] » It is an elm tree. >> Cut it down. [laughter]

[1:49:03] » I'm going to go with Evan Loack. She was a proponent of removing every elm tree

[1:49:08] within the village mainly because they suck water. But I would just I would

[1:49:12] just ask you to remove it. >> Okay. I mean, I can talk to the land

[1:49:15] owner about that. Yeah. >> I I do believe our fire chief would

[1:49:20] support that that motion. >> Any other questions?

[1:49:23] » He'd be better off >> that tree is going to be his property in

[1:49:28] another year. So, >> any other question for any?

[1:49:33] » Yeah. >> Yes. Hi, thanks for coming. Uh what is

[1:49:35] the timeline for construction? >> Um so, we haven't submitted our permit

[1:49:39] yet. Obviously the step one was um obtaining our driveway permit from NMDOT

[1:49:44] which we did. >> Um

[1:49:46] » so they they allowed >> I know that was a question before

[1:49:50] » with with DOT about not alignment or something of the driveway.

[1:49:55] » Um so NM DOT allowed us to put the driveway on the um north edge of the

[1:50:01] property and it kind of curves um south a little bit. So they were fine with the

[1:50:08] visibility for that. So yeah, we do have a agenda DOT permit for that. Um, so

[1:50:13] step two was getting power to the lot. Um, there are power lines on the west

[1:50:18] side of her property. um along the MRGCD MRGCD ditch. Um PNM didn't allow us to

[1:50:27] use those because um they want they want the power to come from the front because

[1:50:33] they have a lot of confusion with addresses when the power comes from

[1:50:36] different parts, you know, different sides of the property. Um so the

[1:50:40] transformer is on the opposite side of Coralis Road from her property. So

[1:50:45] there's kind of no other way to access power to her property. um also say there

[1:50:51] used to be prior to her engaging with us, there was an old um adobe house on

[1:50:56] the property that was um had been demolished. So I assume that that house

[1:51:01] had power at one point as well. Um but yeah, but you're right, there is a tree

[1:51:06] at that corner. Um and there's also there's currently a Quest um

[1:51:10] communication followed that >> Murray. Uh so is the irrigation ditch is

[1:51:15] that being used or is that out of service?

[1:51:17] » Um I believe it is being used. >> Okay. Is the idea then to run power

[1:51:22] through another pole to the house or are you going to run it underground?

[1:51:25] » It's going to be underground. So, we are minimizing the overhead power line to

[1:51:30] the extent like really possible. We're trying to just get it over Corales Road

[1:51:34] and then at that point we're going 230 ft underground to the proposed.

[1:51:38] » Are you going to be farming front part of that or do they

[1:51:41] » uh the it's it's zoned agriculture. I assume the homeowner is going to be I

[1:51:45] mean she has access to the irrigation ditch and I think she intends to be

[1:51:49] farming it but >> well how I'm I'm curious about how deep

[1:51:52] you plan on putting the rest of the power underground because uh is there a

[1:51:57] possibility that if you're farming you're going to dig up at or expose that

[1:52:02] power line? >> No, I don't. No. And we're running um

[1:52:05] along the ascia there. So I don't I mean that's not a place that you would be

[1:52:11] tilling. Is that a That's not lined, is it?

[1:52:13] » It's not lined. >> Okay. So, it could be subject to water.

[1:52:18] » I mean, it's going to um I mean, I can get back to you on that on on the depth

[1:52:22] for for our um electrical line, but we are obviously, you know, going to be put

[1:52:30] we don't want to see that electrical line get messed up. Well, I understand

[1:52:34] that's that's just the concern that if you're using the irrigation ditch, the

[1:52:39] saturation of the water exposing into the cable or the cable detering because

[1:52:43] of the exposure to the water. So, I'm just

[1:52:45] » No, I don't I don't see that being an issue.

[1:52:47] » Okay. >> And it should be a direct I mean, it's a

[1:52:50] direct buried cable. So, >> Burket.

[1:52:53] » Uh, thank you, mayor. Um, so this is I guess not specific to your application,

[1:52:57] but just a thought. I mean, it seems like the only reason we're having to do

[1:53:01] any section of overhead line is because P&M is saying that it's difficult for

[1:53:05] them to figure out someone's address if the line runs east to west instead of

[1:53:09] west to east. Um, it seems like you guys are doing everything possible to Yeah.

[1:53:13] » bury as much as you can, >> right? And and that's not quite correct

[1:53:17] because the the the line on the west side um would have to cross the MRGCD

[1:53:22] ditch. >> Okay. So,

[1:53:23] » so both would have to be above ground at some point.

[1:53:25] » Yes. >> Okay. But I I I just think for something

[1:53:28] just food for thought for our franchise agreement with P&M, we need to discuss

[1:53:31] with them that their ease of identifying addresses is not justification for them

[1:53:36] to ask people to put stuff over Carales Road. Um because we make everyone jump

[1:53:41] through all these hoops to do a small section of overhead line. And a big

[1:53:46] reason we're doing it is just for convenience of something that's very

[1:53:49] simple to do that P&M says they don't want to do. You would have to say that

[1:53:53] when we were going to bring you the P&M franchise as a as negotiated over the

[1:53:58] last year and a half, I think at the next meeting. [laughter]

[1:54:04] » Good point, though. Yeah. >> Yeah. I know we we've we've actually um

[1:54:08] the the fire chief and I have gone back and forth with PNM on and our attorneys

[1:54:12] on, you know, things like the the trees and um undergrounding and you know, I I

[1:54:18] think we've we've reached a point where we've we've squeezed everything out of

[1:54:21] them that we can possibly get. But yeah, we will have a new franchise agreement

[1:54:24] for you um at the next meeting. But it it is very frustrating on our end too

[1:54:29] because you know we would like them to meet certain conditions and yeah I mean

[1:54:34] it it does seem like it it should be a no-brainer that they could figure out

[1:54:39] where where the line is coming from. But >> and an issue I think is that PNM charges

[1:54:46] a fairly high amount to run the line underground whereas to run it overland

[1:54:53] is a lot less expensive. And so, you know, we're probably probably going to

[1:54:57] be seeing more overhead line requests come in um uh because people feel they

[1:55:05] can't afford to go underground. >> Well, and in this case too, you you

[1:55:09] would have to go under Corales Road, which would then involve DOT for a

[1:55:13] permit to go under the road. >> Easy to work with.

[1:55:15] » Yeah. Our DNM is going to involve NMDOT to go over the road as well. So, and

[1:55:21] they and B&M is sort of waiting for the outcome of of this variance in order to

[1:55:26] start that process. >> Sir,

[1:55:29] » well, that brings up the question too because

[1:55:33] if there's I mean, yes, X number of dollars to go under the road, but what

[1:55:36] is the cost to P&M if they have to come out and service that because of a storm,

[1:55:40] the line goes down, they have to bring contractors in, and then what's the

[1:55:45] repair? You know, eventually it adds up over the years when it might have been

[1:55:49] simpler just to put it under the ground. Even though the cost may be I don't know

[1:55:53] what it is. I mean, is it two times >> $7,000 to go to $7,000 to go

[1:56:00] » the the $10,000 that I mean it's sort of a um they haven't given us a firm number

[1:56:06] yet. >> It seems like to me to bring out a

[1:56:09] contractor if there's a storm and a pole goes down or the lines come down over

[1:56:13] Cross Road. What's the cost? It's probably negligible. I mean, it's it's

[1:56:19] it's probably somewhere there's going to be a your return on investment is going

[1:56:23] to be exceeding what it could have been if it had been under ground.

[1:56:26] » PNM will do it. The thing is that the P&M charges the resident for it. And the

[1:56:32] resident says, "Hey, you know, it's a lot less expensive going."

[1:56:36] » Well, I understand, but it's >> overground than under.

[1:56:40] » I'll I'll give you an example on my property. Our line runs across GR Road

[1:56:46] down several houses to a property. Then it goes underground to my place.

[1:56:52] I've watched the transformer on Crossro Road burn because it's on the pole and

[1:56:59] something happened and you know it just disintegrate. But it takes out half a

[1:57:03] dozen of us that are on that on that line. So anyway, that's just that's just

[1:57:08] an example. >> So the so the transformer itself is on

[1:57:11] the east side of Corales Road. So we're asking to put a customer owned pole. So

[1:57:14] there would be a service drop. >> Um so the transformer is already there.

[1:57:17] We're not putting in a new >> Well, it just it just

[1:57:23] Okay. Um getting personal. I think 20 years ago

[1:57:29] B&M charged us $15,000 to run line underground for us.

[1:57:35] And that was 20 years ago. and we paid it just we felt that you

[1:57:40] know we'd rather have a light underground for many reasons but we had

[1:57:44] to >> either have you

[1:57:46] » pardon me >> you haven't had a problem with the

[1:57:48] underground service >> no

[1:57:52] » any other questions for >> fire chief has a question

[1:57:56] » fire chief

[1:58:06] » council um I believe you've heard my testimony before. We're not I'm not in

[1:58:10] support of any more above ground utilities. Uh we get calls. Uh just this

[1:58:16] last week, we've had multiple trees down, some of them involving either low

[1:58:20] voltage lines, delay in response. Uh two weeks ago, we had a cottonwood

[1:58:26] tree come off um on a private property, fall down, pulled the overhead power

[1:58:31] line to the service head off the house, shorted out. um kind of smoldering in

[1:58:37] the box and luckily the the house didn't burn down. Um so

[1:58:44] hearing that they're doing everything they possibly can to make it safer in a

[1:58:48] customer-owned pole. Counselor, thank you for suggesting that the tree be

[1:58:51] removed. Ultimately, this is your decision. This is their right to appeal.

[1:58:55] Uh but I think we could do better by making sure that even if it is a

[1:58:58] customer-owned pole and the utility is going to be overhead that the owner of

[1:59:04] the property or if the property sells that it's you know that they have to

[1:59:09] maintain a clear area around that service and not plant trees underneath

[1:59:13] the power lines because they're just continuous you know it's a continual

[1:59:17] problem in the village. So thank you. And the problem there is, you know, how

[1:59:22] do you maintain that? You know, that's not a village easement and they're not

[1:59:25] going to give us that land. And if the owner decides to plant a cottonwood tree

[1:59:32] under it, uh what recourse do we have? Correct, mayor. Uh you're absolutely

[1:59:37] right. Right. I mean, I I don't know how we can enforce it other than uh doing

[1:59:42] our due diligence, PSAs, advising homeowners to if they have trees on

[1:59:47] their private property that enforce, you know, reminding them it's their

[1:59:50] responsibility. My understanding, I could be wrong, but when PNM

[1:59:56] takes that their triplex or whatever service line from their pole to a

[2:00:01] customerowned pole or to the house of residence, that is the responsibility of

[2:00:07] that homeowner. And a lot of homeowners don't understand that. And um I I I just

[2:00:13] think, you know, we could do a better part in trying to educate them that if

[2:00:17] they do have trees that they're trimmed regularly. and uh maintained.

[2:00:24] » Thank you, councelor Murray.

[2:00:27] » Uh so this is a question for Lori. Then when the Lori when they bring you the

[2:00:32] plans for your house, is there a way we can stipulate that any uh power being

[2:00:38] brought into that property that it remained free of vegetation?

[2:00:43] » We can give them a document to that effect. We already give them the dark

[2:00:46] skies ordinance and uh we ask for certified asbuilts for their grading and

[2:00:51] drainage. But but um like some folks have suggested it's hard people still do

[2:00:58] what they're going to do and then trees grow. We we can certainly do that. We we

[2:01:03] can tell them to >> and don't they have to have a when

[2:01:06] another if the property train changes hands, don't they have to have a survey

[2:01:11] done and they have to have certain stipulations on it? uh that's up to the

[2:01:15] title company. Sometimes they just buy a property and okay

[2:01:18] » uh you know we're we're talking most of these are some type of new construction

[2:01:23] and then once it's there it's there once the overhead is there it's there um and

[2:01:29] properties change hands people plant trees and it becomes more difficult to

[2:01:34] to keep an eye on that. Is that an ordinance that we need or I'm just uh

[2:01:39] kind of throwing this out to see where it sticks?

[2:01:41] » And mayor and members of council, it reminds me of something that you had

[2:01:43] said prior to this meeting, which is that the enforcement portion of the code

[2:01:47] is kind of an area that I think really bears looking at. Um and I think sort of

[2:01:51] in tandem I'm looking at um 1830 that subsection Q that talks about these

[2:01:56] communication and electrical distribution lines. Um, and it really

[2:01:59] doesn't address in a meaningful way anything to do with vegetation and

[2:02:04] obstruction of the lines. Um, you know, there are a lot of things that are sort

[2:02:08] of notably absent from this in terms of if we wanted to be able to, you know,

[2:02:13] look out over somebody's property and see that there's a tree back there. Um,

[2:02:17] you know, there's really no mechanism at this stage other than saying, "Hey, we

[2:02:19] see that that tree is awfully close to your power line. You might want to

[2:02:22] reconsider that." Um, and that's kind of where we're limited. Um so it may be

[2:02:26] worth taking a look at that code in in tandem with taking a look at enforcement

[2:02:29] provisions and seeing you know is this something I mean obviously one of the

[2:02:33] reasons that this is here is that um the biggest concern is public safety uh and

[2:02:38] if there is a meaningful way to get underground access u because it would be

[2:02:42] a better benefit to public safety. I mean I think we just heard Chief tell us

[2:02:45] that. Um, so I I mean it may not be strictly

[2:02:49] necessary except for those lots where they already have overhead lines sort of

[2:02:53] running through them, running near them, adjacent to those lot lines, you know,

[2:02:55] where you might be considering granting this sort of with conditions,

[2:03:00] right? There's no ability to give conditions at this stage the way it's

[2:03:03] written.

[2:03:08] » Uh, councelor Wman. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um, Chief,

[2:03:13] is that a possibility that you could think about working on an ordinance that

[2:03:18] would help you in terms of vegetation under power lines going forward?

[2:03:22] » Absolutely, Mayor Counselor. Uh, >> there there must be model legislation

[2:03:26] out there somewhere. >> Yeah. And I I've done some research and

[2:03:29] looking at some of the uh different ordinances and regulations and you know

[2:03:33] some enforcements uh starting in California because you know some of the

[2:03:36] wildfires have been caused and uh some are under investigation for you know

[2:03:41] utility lines or some sort of power line and so uh I'd be happy to take on that

[2:03:46] task. Uh, I'd like to work, you know, with our code enforcement, planning and

[2:03:51] zoning, and also, you know, maybe we can parallel

[2:03:55] um the P&M's, you know, vegetation management so we can help each other.

[2:04:00] So, when they're coming through and cleaning up their power lines or

[2:04:03] distribution lines, we're also doing our enforcement at, you know, on the ground,

[2:04:09] educating the public and trying to come up with some of the rules to help us

[2:04:13] make our community safer. you know, some of the major fires in New Mexico have

[2:04:16] been power lines going through national forest and that that the cleared area

[2:04:21] wasn't wide enough so that was when there was a problem sparking whatever it

[2:04:25] was, it touched off these major wildfires.

[2:04:28] » So using that as somewhat of a model and some of the California experiences.

[2:04:34] » Yeah. and mayor counselor um planning and zoning and I we we've had this

[2:04:38] discussion and and they're doing their part when they have a new site plan or a

[2:04:41] plat coming before that you know vegetation uh landscape requirements and

[2:04:46] stuff that's great if you have a certain amount of trees or shrubs you have to

[2:04:51] put on your property just don't put them in roads and don't put them underneath

[2:04:55] power and >> make sure they're not elm trees

[2:04:58] » so thank you Murray >> I would move that we amend the uh motion

[2:05:03] to uh require the removal of the on tree at that corner of the property.

[2:05:10] » Any second to that?

[2:05:14] » I'll second that. Any more discussion on that?

[2:05:17] » Well, one, I think the tree needs to be removed mainly because it's going to

[2:05:22] interfere with the power lines sooner or later. And two, it sucks water like

[2:05:26] crazy. I mean, it's an elm tree and so I think we'd be better off if we just had

[2:05:30] it removed. That eliminates the issue of the power lines being interfered later

[2:05:35] in life. >> Any more discussion on that?

[2:05:39] » I mean, Council Briquette and Council Knight,

[2:05:43] » my agreement is in sheer deference to the chief's vastly superior knowledge to

[2:05:46] me of the fire danger of uh of these trees and lines. And so, um, his

[2:05:51] concern, uh, becomes my concern. >> Knight.

[2:05:55] » Yeah. I just wanted to ask, do you think there's going to be a problem with the

[2:05:59] homeowner about removing this tree? I mean, is it like give a lot of shade to

[2:06:03] the house or >> No, it's not it's not a nice tree

[2:06:06] nowhere. >> Yeah, it's it's not a nice tree. It's

[2:06:08] just the cost of having to remove it. Um, you know, so that but if that's a

[2:06:13] condition of your approval, then we'll just tell her and that if she wants

[2:06:17] power, that's what she's going to have to do. [clears throat]

[2:06:21] » Any more discussion? All in favor say I.

[2:06:26] » Any oppose? Motion carries. >> Thank you.

[2:06:30] » Thanks. >> That that was resolution.

[2:06:34] » Well, that that was that was just um a vote to approve the amendment. Now you

[2:06:39] need to go back and vote on the original motion with a Yes. With a roll call

[2:06:44] vote. Okay. >> So, you're you're um you're voting on

[2:06:48] approval of the line with the stipulation that they remove the tree,

[2:06:52] right? Council me, how do you vote? >> Councelor Waldman. Hi. Councelor Knight.

[2:06:56] Hi. Councelor Bquette. Hi. Councelor Murray.

[2:06:58] » Yes. >> Motion carries. I'd like to take a

[2:07:01] moment to uh thank uh Representative Casease for attending our meetings. Is

[2:07:07] there another uh candidate in in the room right now? Anyway, we appreciate

[2:07:13] you coming and attending and being aware of the thorny issues in Coral sometimes

[2:07:21] and talk about [laughter]

[2:07:30] » Oh, thank you very much for coming being concerned and aware. Um, next item, uh,

[2:07:36] consideration, action, approval of resolution 26-35,

[2:07:41] approval of an overhead power line at 5311 Corales Road pursuant to village

[2:07:47] code land use regulation section. Next item, that's we just approved that one.

[2:07:53] Number three, consideration action approval of resolution 26 uh-36,

[2:07:59] approval of an overhead power line at lot B, Targeta Lane, pursuant to village

[2:08:04] code land use regulation section 18-30 Q4. May I have a motion to open this up?

[2:08:10] » Motion to approve. >> Second.

[2:08:13] » Any discussion? >> Council would is somebody here from that

[2:08:19] land that property >> mayor? I believe those are two

[2:08:23] contiguous lots. A and B are part of what we just voted on previously. It's

[2:08:28] the same address. She she just left. >> Oh, okay.

[2:08:32] » Lori, are are do you are you aware of that being the case?

[2:08:37] » It's a separate property, separate residence.

[2:08:40] » Yeah. >> The the one that you just voted on is

[2:08:43] 5311 Carles Road. It's on the the west side of Carales Road. This is farther

[2:08:48] north heading east off Targetta Lane. So, and Lori, correct me if I'm wrong.

[2:08:53] This one is literally just P&M refusing to let them connect to their pool.

[2:08:58] » Correct. That that is their new stance that they won't let anyone connect to

[2:09:02] their fancy power lines that bring power to people, but we can't touch the fancy

[2:09:07] power lines that bring the power to the people. We have to make another power

[2:09:09] line that gets the power line from the one we can't touch to the one we can

[2:09:14] touch. Correct. And bury it. Communities like Rio Rancho that are very strict

[2:09:18] with overhead or I'm sorry with underground there. There's a a P&M has

[2:09:22] come up with something. It's a riser and I'm trying to figure out how tall it is.

[2:09:26] It's not certainly not as tall as a telephone pole. It's some kind of a

[2:09:28] metal thing and so the power comes off of the pole, connects to that little

[2:09:32] riser and then goes underground from there. So that's what undergrounding

[2:09:36] communities are doing. And it's my understanding that this

[2:09:38] » is that in our franchise agreement. >> I will have to go double check. I have

[2:09:43] the diagram. Administrator, >> it does say in keeping with the

[2:09:48] ordinance. >> Yeah. Yeah. The the franchise agreement

[2:09:52] with P&M does say they have to abide by all of our ordinances. So, whatever and

[2:09:57] we aren't specific about, you know, you have to follow 18 because the things can

[2:10:01] change. So, it just says they will abide by all the village ordinances. So,

[2:10:05] interesting. >> Murray. Well, um I guess the question is

[2:10:09] bringing the power across uh from Targetta to lot B. Uh did they have to

[2:10:14] get an easement from the uh owner of lot A?

[2:10:20] » I don't know land owner here at all or >> because they're

[2:10:27] okay. >> Or they're

[2:10:30] representative >> both and it kind of makes it a moot

[2:10:32] point that >> you can't build a house. separate houses

[2:10:37] here. >> Chief, would you like to say something?

[2:10:41] » What are they doing? Yeah. >> Mayor, council, uh, thank you. I don't

[2:10:45] want to repeat what I said earlier. I think I got my point across. Um, my my

[2:10:50] concern on this one was looking at the diagram.

[2:10:54] Um,

[2:10:57] and I understand that the power is there on Taretta. just lost my page, but it

[2:11:03] looks like they're trying to put the pole right in the middle of lot B.

[2:11:08] And I maybe Lori can clarify, but my suggestion or um would be that the pole

[2:11:15] stay if P&M doesn't allow a an underground

[2:11:21] conduit to be attached to their pole that a new owner pole be put where the

[2:11:26] existing poles are on along that line of Taretta with underground service

[2:11:31] underneath Targetta Lane to lot B. Does that make sense?

[2:11:37] Will that work if they don't own both lots? I I I don't know. I mean, if they

[2:11:41] own both lots, that works, but can they force another pull on someone else's lot

[2:11:45] » that that Yeah. So, I have some questions just based on the diagram that

[2:11:48] I see. Or it might require >> trenching down Taretta Lane if they have

[2:11:54] rights to that for access and utility easement because they have a utility

[2:11:58] easement obviously. The power poles are going on the north side of Targetta.

[2:12:03] This one may need to get postponed until we can ask some questions.

[2:12:07] » Yeah. I mean, Councelor Wilman,

[2:12:10] » Mayor, can I can I ask Lori? Um, I pass that that property every day. Uh, it

[2:12:16] seems to me that are you suggesting that these are two separate own perhaps not

[2:12:21] owners, but two separate lots. So, there'll be two separate houses

[2:12:23] potentially >> on Tetta. Correct. I mean, it's being

[2:12:27] farmed now. There's a lot A and there's a lot B,

[2:12:30] » right? How how large are each of the lots? Do you know?

[2:12:33] » Gosh, I did look it up. Let me see if I can eyeball it. Um,

[2:12:36] » pretty equal. >> Well, I'm gonna say they're about an

[2:12:40] acre each. Uh the I I looked up the plat. There was an amended plat that

[2:12:45] wasn't that long ago, so I I can reasonably assume they're about an acre

[2:12:49] each. >> Legally platted lots that could be in

[2:12:53] the future. There's farming occurring now, but they could contain houses. So,

[2:12:57] if I'm looking at this picture that we have in the packet, there's

[2:13:02] target Lane to the south and then lot A, >> lot B, right?

[2:13:09] » And then and then there's an open space just below the the line.

[2:13:15] » Is that is so is the land below that line where where the outline

[2:13:20] is for lots A and B, is that part of it as well? because I don't think I don't

[2:13:25] think they're an acre each A and B. >> I'm pretty sure they are. It's very hard

[2:13:31] to see, but there is they're rectangular lots and to the south of lot A and lot

[2:13:37] B, it looks like there's another road, but what that is is the indigenous farm

[2:13:41] hub, I believe, and a separate property. >> So, where you where you see what looks

[2:13:47] like a road to the south of lot A and lot B is simply just their farming

[2:13:51] access on another property. seems to me that there, you know, questions about

[2:13:56] this and without the property owner here, I mean, you know, are we going to

[2:14:00] make conditions that the property owner has to abide by without the property

[2:14:05] owner having discussion and input? Uh, I I just wonder whether that person or a

[2:14:12] representative like in the previous item >> and this does say that the power is for

[2:14:16] farming activities, not a home. I don't know if that makes a difference.

[2:14:20] » Is the is the uh owner you proposed a power pole that the owner

[2:14:26] is going to install for lot B and that's where the house is going to be.

[2:14:32] » It right now the pole is going to be adjacent to a shed that they're using in

[2:14:37] their farming activities. >> That's where in lot B in lot maybe this

[2:14:41] is not for a house is just for maybe a pump

[2:14:44] » at this point in time. Yes, it it it does say in the the letter from the

[2:14:48] property owner, the purpose of the propo proposed new service is to provide power

[2:14:52] to farming activities that are occurring on site.

[2:14:54] » Does it doesn't mean that they couldn't build a house down the road, but yeah,

[2:14:57] » it's got plans to build a house there. >> Yeah.

[2:15:00] » Councelor Murray. >> So, mayor, I would uh I will withdraw my

[2:15:05] motion and ask that uh we postpone this item to the next uh available council

[2:15:12] meeting. >> I'll second that. Any discussion on

[2:15:15] that? Uh, does this need

[2:15:19] just a goof? >> Yeah, you can. Yeah,

[2:15:22] » it's not a res. All in favor, please say I.

[2:15:24] » I. >> I.

[2:15:25] » Any oppose? >> Motion carries to postpone till the next

[2:15:29] meeting. >> We Well, actually, we'll work with the

[2:15:31] property owner to make sure they can attend the next meeting. And if not,

[2:15:34] we'll move it to the next meeting that the property owner is available to

[2:15:37] attend so that we can make sure that we don't run into this issue again. and

[2:15:41] mayor and members of council just for the sake of the record. So I did look it

[2:15:43] up on the assessor's website. So this property owner owns lot C and lot B. Um

[2:15:48] so lot A is not part of the equation as far as I can tell. So his power line is

[2:15:52] sort of already >> um would be crossing over a different

[2:15:55] property owner's property. >> So they need they need an easement of

[2:15:58] some kind I would presume. We'll see. >> But I guess that we can ask that when

[2:16:03] » it may pre-exist. It would be entirely dependent on what that survey and plat

[2:16:06] said you know when it was created. Okay. Okie do. Uh, last item in new business.

[2:16:14] Um, item four, consideration action approval of resolution 26-37

[2:16:19] adopting the 2028 to 2032 infrastructure capital improvement plan

[2:16:27] ICIP. May I have a motion to open this? >> Move to approve.

[2:16:31] » Second. >> Um, we have a motion to second. Any

[2:16:35] discussion?

[2:16:42] That's unusual. >> Take that roll call vote now.

[2:16:46] » Fast. >> Are you here to check on your money?

[2:16:48] Good for you. [laughter]

[2:16:52] » And we we do have the option of um if we want to adjust the um so we have to get

[2:16:57] this list into the state before July 1 and then they then they close the the

[2:17:02] portal. We can't make any changes to it. However, before everything reopens for

[2:17:06] the capital outlay process, they will reopen the portal for a short period of

[2:17:10] time if we want to restructure any of our rankings as we get closer to that

[2:17:15] time of requesting capital outlay. So, just just so you know, these these

[2:17:18] rankings do get locked in after July 1, but we do have the option to change them

[2:17:23] before we go to our our great legislators for for funding. And thanks

[2:17:28] to Melanie for re surveying us because there was some confusion last time with

[2:17:33] how we ranked. >> Thank you all to all the counselors for

[2:17:35] for re-ranking them. >> Right. So on that uh Mr. Mayor, uh

[2:17:41] municipal parking facilities means just what we were talking about earlier that

[2:17:44] we have to wait. >> No, the municipal parking facilities is

[2:17:47] was um specifically for the admin complex, not all the other. Yeah,

[2:17:52] because that that was that was already >> but we still have to wait till till 1 on

[2:17:57] this one. Okay. >> Yeah.

[2:17:59] » Gotcha. >> Any other discussion?

[2:18:04] » Okay. Um let's take a vote this resolution. So councelor Mariotti vote.

[2:18:09] » Yes. >> Councelor Bquette.

[2:18:11] » Yes. Councelor >> Knight. Councelor Wman. Hi. Councelor

[2:18:14] » Mera. >> Yes sir. Um

[2:18:17] » next item announcements. Uh future agenda items.

[2:18:20] » Thank you. Number [laughter]

[2:18:25] one, uniform traffic ordinance first reading next meeting on the 23rd of

[2:18:29] June. Uh number two, possible fireworks ban renewal next meeting. Uh number

[2:18:35] three, 40-year water plan update July 16th. And number four, draft noise

[2:18:41] ordinance discussion to be announced. Uh any other changes or

[2:18:47] » just the parking conversation? Y >> and parking conversation next meeting.

[2:18:52] » Okay. Um we've done all our agenda items. So

[2:18:57] » could I where we are on the uh your discussions with NM DOT?

[2:19:03] » It was supposed to be the end of >> next month.

[2:19:06] » So the um our our next meeting is next Thursday.

[2:19:10] » Okay. >> At at 10 a.m. and then and then we go

[2:19:13] back to every other month. And that's going to have to do with uh stop signs

[2:19:17] and >> it'll it'll be ev everything. And I I

[2:19:20] was um going to see if we could add to the agenda um just a brief discussion

[2:19:24] about the um driveway permits because it it has been an issue getting those

[2:19:29] approved with NMDOT. >> You know, I noticed the other day that

[2:19:32] the new complex going up at Perea Road um has a long driveway off of Corell's

[2:19:39] Road. Is that up for discussion or is that built in to the I mean what's going

[2:19:44] to happen with that? >> So the anytime a property owner brings a

[2:19:48] a new plat they have to get a drive so driveway permits do not go with the land

[2:19:52] they go with the owner. So every time a a property changes hands along Crowis

[2:19:57] Road that new owner has to go and apply for a new driveway permit

[2:20:00] » through NMD through NM DOT and they don't they don't make that clear to

[2:20:05] people. I think I I would assume if I bought a property and and I have access

[2:20:09] off of Carl's Road, I would just assume that it's been allowed. I wouldn't know

[2:20:13] that I had to go and get a new driveway permit to continue using that access

[2:20:17] point. >> Councelor Murray.

[2:20:19] » Uh thank you. So for Pere Road, can we put some commas in there so it's

[2:20:23] $700,000, not $7 million? >> Yes.

[2:20:27] » Okay. Thanks. [laughter] And also, uh for the DOT discussion, let's get the

[2:20:32] crosswalks back on discussion. Yeah. So, the the crosswalks um those are on hold

[2:20:37] until after this the safety study. So, the studies won't be um we won't have

[2:20:41] results until early fall. So, the only thing we're going to get from DOT at

[2:20:45] this next meeting is the contractor is working on on everything. We'll get

[2:20:49] results to you in you know late August, early September.

[2:20:53] » How about the pathway from the Monasuri school?

[2:20:55] » Again, everything there. Well, with the the pathway, it's it's on the it should

[2:20:59] be on the agenda. They said anything that has been a rolling item on the

[2:21:02] agenda, which that is one of them. And they're they're waiting on the um

[2:21:07] figuring out what the right of ways are. So, I actually um I I did get a little

[2:21:12] bit passive aggressive um with DOT. Um we were having a discussion about

[2:21:17] cutting down the trees on the north end and they had informed us that the

[2:21:20] village must pay for that. And I said, "But that's your right of way, so

[2:21:25] shouldn't you pay for it?" And then yes. Well, and then they said, "Well, I don't

[2:21:29] have the the right-of-way documents." And I said, "Well, I do. Here you go."

[2:21:32] And I emailed it to them. So, >> that's that Margaret lady, right?

[2:21:36] » Yes. Well, no, no, this was this was Greg, the the head the head um

[2:21:40] » Yeah. >> So, yeah, I did I did get a little pushy

[2:21:43] and said, you know, please review this and please check the the pathway along

[2:21:47] there and then the north end of town. >> You never heard from

[2:21:50] » I've not heard from I have not heard from them yet. Yeah.

[2:21:54] The other question I have is with the trees at north end, are they uh

[2:21:57] historical trees that have been approved by the tree committee?

[2:22:01] » I don't believe so. I will double check the list, the landmark trees list, but

[2:22:04] no, they're elm trees. So, I don't think that they would they would be. Yeah. No.

[2:22:08] And and that's what th those those trees have already been evaluated by an

[2:22:11] arborist and and they confirmed that they are diseased and they need to come

[2:22:15] down. So >> very good.

[2:22:16] » Even if they were landmark trees, that's the process to remove a landmark tree is

[2:22:20] to get it um certified by an arborist that there is a legitimate safety reason

[2:22:24] and having a diseased tree is a legitimate safety reason. So we're

[2:22:28] covered either way. >> Thank you for all the work. I I noticed

[2:22:31] twice you had to put those polls back up that have the that have the signs. I

[2:22:35] mean that just proves the point that they made earlier. They had to put up

[2:22:38] those what twice already, right? They they keep knocking down those signs.

[2:22:43] » Amazing. Anyway, thank you very much, council, for this is our fifth

[2:22:47] consecutive uh Tuesday meeting. I think >> it is. It is. We actually get a little

[2:22:51] break next week, so we won't we won't see you for two whole weeks.

[2:22:55] » Anyway, meeting you.

[2:22:58] » Yes. Hi.

June 9 2026 Regular Council Meeting

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