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Thanks for
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this evening proposal related to
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parking, standing and stopping and also
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our public comment. Uh period. Welcome.
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If anybody would like to uh speak if
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you'd be good enough to sign in here,
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» thank you. Anybody
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want to speak at either?
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Oh, we got Mr. Chu. Okay.
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601 we'll do the public hearing.
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number one total local
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law amending article 11 of the city code
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for the department standing and stop.
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Mr. Chu you're signed for the public
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hearing.
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» I just had two question. Um, one is why
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does the council have to first give
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itself permission to put in parking
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meters before it decides? Why couldn't
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you just if you're going to put them in,
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just put them in? And the second
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question is, why do we need to keep our
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3:00 a.m. to 6 a.m. prohibition against
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public streets? For, for example, I want
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to car my driveway now, and where am I
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going to put my car?
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So, thank you for questions.
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>> I could probably answer questions.
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>> We got a public hearing.
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» Anybody else here uh for public hearing
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number one, proposed local law amending
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article 11 of the city code relating to
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parking, standing, and stopping.
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Last call. Proposed hearing number one,
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proposed local law amending article 11
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of the city code relating to parking,
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standing, and stopping.
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Hearing none, we'll close the public
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hearing
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and uh we could call to order, please.
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» Council member to
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>> present. Council member Sllan
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>> here.
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>> Council member Panel
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>> here.
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>> Member Lane
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>> here.
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>> Member Con here.
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>> Council member Carpenter
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>> here.
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>> Member Beckwith present.
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>> Council member Michaels
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>> here. All right. Thursday.
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I pledge to the flag of the United
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States of America and to the republic
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for it stands nationy
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and justice for all
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of them off their birthdays.
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» All right. Does anybody have anything
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for public comments?
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Okay, hearing none. Um,
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we'll go right to the uh fourth report.
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» All right. Thank you. Followed up with a
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constituent, the constituent who had a
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question about the change with the
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property tax collection and the impact
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potentially on school taxes and their
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collection. Um had a call actually today
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from a resident concerned. I'll follow
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up with DPW
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about the intersection of Yong and
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Louder and cars coming through there
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potentially not stopping at uh the
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intersection
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and
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>> what intersection I'm sorry.
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>> Yong and Louder
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Schools up the street from there on.
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Young
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» that's it for today. Okay.
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>> Any more tubers?
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>> Um, I wound up helping people on Otter
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Creek because a lady called me. Uh, she
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was given she was mistaken I'm sorry. I
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was mistakenly identified as her alder
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person instead of Mary Cla. So, I just
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fielded it and I um let Mary Clair know
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what was going on. People on that street
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on Otter Creek were concerned about the
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university having property and trees
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that looked like they were going to come
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down. So I called a guy named Dan at
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building grounds in at Courtland. He was
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wonderful. He brought a couple people
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out to check it out. They decided to
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come back with a horiculturist
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and tree people, professional tree
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people, and they determined which ones
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were on whose property, what needed to
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be taken down, so everybody's happy. And
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he in turn asked me if I could talk to
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the mayor about cleaning up trees that
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are in the waterworks along the fields
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um and behind
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um the
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I'll call the University Police.
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>> Well, the police, but my family calls it
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the Temple of Fitness. They're um
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>> student life center. Thank you. Yeah.
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>> Temple of
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>> the Temple of Fitness.
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>> And the mayor said on it and it'll
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happen in the fall, but not before
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students come back. So, that was all
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good. And I texted the chief of police
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about five cars that I saw parked the
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wrong way on Main Street. If I have to
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back in, you guys have to back in.
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Somebody almost hit my husband who had
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backed in and was pulling out and they
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had pulled in fronts and swung out. So,
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this is a this is a danger. And that's
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it from the second word. Okay. All good.
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Third word.
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Um, you'll [clears throat] jump on this
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one. Uh, attended Captain uh
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Freriedman's retirement celebration as
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did
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>> Captain.
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>> Oh, sorry. Chief.
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>> Yes.
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>> Yeah, he got the
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>> Well, we got to get rid of him.
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>> No, Chief Freeman's retirement
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celebration as as did Katie. And And it
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was wonderful. It was everything it
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should be. Um, they've started
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construction on the new dorm at the
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college.
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It's going to be interesting.
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Um, and that's it from the board.
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>> I have a board meeting on Monday, July
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25th. Deputy Fire Chief Reynolds was
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kind enough to come and answer some
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questions from constituents as was Rich
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Cunningham of Toma who presented on some
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microenterprise grants and housing uh
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rehabilitation programs as well. Uh
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there was one question I just want to
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get clarification on from the board
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meeting. Bikes on Main Street, are they
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allowed in the street?
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Is it the same on Central? Okay, that
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was my understanding. So, I will clear
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that up with some folks. Um,
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and
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two crosswalk issues that I've not had a
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chance to reach out to DBW on the
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crosswalk out front of the rock crossing
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to the old Portland.
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That button is malfunctioning again. Um,
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and there's a crosswalk uh on the 1890
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house side of uh Tomkins crossing to
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Prospect that also seems to be out. I
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noticed that one earlier today. So, I
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just want to mention those two.
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>> Gets the prospect.
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>> Pros. Uh, yes. Correct. And that does it
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for the fiscal.
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» Um, I know I was at the downtown music
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series last week and Troy was there on
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Friday. One of my constituents came up
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to me issuing the water problem on
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Hickory Park Road. Very upset again. Um,
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that center lane. We've been taking this
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thing down the road forever. And uh I
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thought there was some money in the
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springtime to get that done, but we have
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to really think about getting that done
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up down in that area because there's no
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drainage down that area. I don't know if
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we're going to put down the the pond
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down there or [clears throat]
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complaints.
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>> Want to congratulate the city police for
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uh making the arrest on the deal mural
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down there.
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>> Good police work done.
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>> Yes. Yep. It's a sad situation where
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something can't something as beautiful
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as that is destroy. So
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>> 14 14 acts of
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>> one verse of that one. Yeah. Okay.
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>> Good work.
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>> Yeah.
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» Just ready on Brian. I did make it to
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three out of the four made music I made.
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I guess Sparky and the crew. I don't
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know. Can't hear them all. So, um, they
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did a great job and they had nice
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weather for all of them and, uh, he said
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next year's hopefully be better. It's
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been what, three or four years since we
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had it really,
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>> right? Yeah.
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>> Uh, remind you again next meeting about
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pork fashes coming up. It's a huge thing
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I think in Brian's word.
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» And then, uh, I believe they're supposed
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to be ticketing people now going the
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wrong way back back in the wrong way on
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Maine now, right? I just want to bring
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that up. So, they keep doing it. they're
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going to get ahead yet. But and uh other
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than that, I think that's all I had.
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Thank you,
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>> Michael.
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>> Uh just a few things. Uh also attended
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the fire chief's uh walk out uh last
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Friday. Very very moving
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for
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have uh three code related issues. Uh
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one's already been resolved. It's my
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understanding. letter is going out to uh the second individual and third
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individuals in Troy's ward. So I'll
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catch up with Troy before I leave
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tonight. See how he'd like to handle
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that and uh that's all I have my report.
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Thank you.
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>> All right. Thank you.
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Um [clears throat]
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so I just address Mr. Chu's questions
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real quick. Um so the um parking
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committee went reviewed everything
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reviewed all the items to do for the
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parking and uh we change those laws we
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needed to or change the fees and do
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those fines we need to change how we
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orchestrated our if we do fees would
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have to be done through that law first.
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So, cargo or the horse either way, but
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we've been talking openly about both.
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So, they know that that's the intent of
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doing that. And as far as the 3:00 a.m.
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to 6:00 p.m., I mean, with the trash
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pickups, the snow falling, that's the
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purpose of not allowing skew parking,
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but you can always there's a website
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place to get on the police website uh
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police on our website and police to log
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in your car. So, if you do have to pave
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your seal your driveway, do it. And
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certainly they use common sense. If they
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see a driveway sealed there and a car is
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outside, they're not going to get a
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ticket anyways. And if they do, it's
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certainly appealable.
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>> Still call
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it online. So online that site.
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No, let us know.
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>> Uh so a lot of good things happened. U
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you know, again, I want to give Deputy
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Chief Brown some kudos on a couple
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things. one, you know, the walk out
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ceremony, the grand staff and
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organization to that was impeccable. It
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was uh really deserving. I don't I don't
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know that you could say it was any more
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perfect than that,
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>> except for it was very hot for everybody
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that wasn't in the shade where we were.
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>> I apologize. I think we had three people
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>> kind of go down to that some very hot
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sweat, right, Chief? Yes.
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>> So, uh but it was very good. I
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appreciate your efforts and putting that
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together as well as the first responders
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can't certainly if it wasn't for your
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push it wouldn't happen this year. So by doing that in a very economical way
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made it work for people in the How many
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children did we hit?
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>> Just over 250
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>> and so and it was pretty impressive. And
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if you listen to the kids talk or TLC
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was there and Marathon ambulance was
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there as well as our fleece fire uh and
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the communications and the dialogues. I
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heard one
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kid talk about the drone operator which
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was our lieutenant. I was very pleased
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to be able to have a conversation and
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you know parents came up to me and said
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that they have always told their kids
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not to talk to police officers because
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that's what they were told. So I think
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it broke at least that once that stigma
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so there is importance to it that we
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don't always get. So uh but those were
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just conversations I happened to be
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near. Uh so that was great. Um, you
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know, we had some great celebrations.
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The ADA celebration, Arts on Maine, uh,
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were were all good events. Arts on, I
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guess they call it now. All great great
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events to have. Certainly the, uh, class
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reunion was held for the first time as a group. That was highly successful.
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No incidents. Same with the concert
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series. They've been highly attended,
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doing well. You know, last Friday we had
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the concert series. We had a band at the
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Brew and somebody playing at CBC. So
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within a block of each other, we have
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three different groups playing and
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certainly was bumping downtown for sure.
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So they're wearing out the crosswalk but
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it's mainly um and so that's great and
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certainly good things coming ahead.
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Porchfest is great. You know the summer
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concert series we have Molly and the
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ring walls and of course the with the
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porch fest after that uh as well and
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that's on the 13th. But then the uh this
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uh Thursday's community beach party
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which starts at uh 5 and goes to 7:00
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and that's just all the different u um
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vendors that are there that different
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people different aspects of the
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community that can help and then tailor
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M's playing at 7 to 9:00 and then moving
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under the stars of legal at 6 8 to 10 on
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the beach. So it's going to be a a fun
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uh exciting month that's the first time
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out uh which is great. Uh currently
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working projects uh wastewater uh start
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meeting with the contractors to do that
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expansion project that starts Thursday.
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We're going to go with that Thursday
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morning. The road work started yesterday
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and is continuing today. Uh um we're
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working on the Randle Park bids and the
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gaming park bids went out for the
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engineers. They came in still working on
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the demo demo for the roundhouse mill.
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Trying to get some clarification with
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the state on that. And um you know I
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want to just have a reminder you talk
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about back in parking. We've had a
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couple incidents where one person was
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speeding really fast at down Main
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Street, uh, excessive speed, and were
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able to catch them as well. But, uh, we
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had another one where somebody was
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speeding past and I think that's being
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investigated. They went went to go
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around them and it hit another car and
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that was backing and drove in, hit him
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into the next car. it it's happening and
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uh people just need to slow down and not
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think that they can just navigate those areas in uh is not not safe for
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sure. Um I think
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>> can you say something about kids
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>> as far as it being just agreed?
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>> Yes. So, um,
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>> yeah, again, I think, uh, there's a
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press release in everybody's packet that
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was issued today by the code office. OD
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office been doing a phenomenal job.
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We're up to 139 of the red tags we've
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taken off, um, and uh, on buildings and some we had to tear down, which this
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was one of those cases, but this was a
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property that was neglected for a long
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time. I think Chief Liz Nichols was here
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when they had all the excessive cats in
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that property. wheels we refer
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>> 250 cast.
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So since then it's been kind of getting
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in rough disrepair. So fortunately that
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historic building we had to come down
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and now the back property but we did
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were able to get a court hearing which
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is the largest fine and the best fine.
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So thanks to uh Randall Lewis's work and
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the code office work together to uh
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drive towards making these things make
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holding people accountable for their
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properties as well has shown the success
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and uh you know I think the port the
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part about doing this release is making
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people recognize that uh you know we're
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going to try to clean things up and our
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challenge keeps things moving forward
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and that's that's what
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>> yeah I guess for Tuesday that will be
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through
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>> that's correct. Right. Pete mentioned
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park meters. So yeah,
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>> once it gets approved, if we approve it,
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there'll be it's all done on your ad.
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There's not going to be new meters put
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up this.
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>> There will be striping of the streets
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either.
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>> And there's going to be signage and all
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that.
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>> Yeah.
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>> I just wanted to comment that because
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you did mention park. We're not
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parking in.
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>> All right. With that we move on to did I
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answer your question? I think
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>> all right. Um so we'll move on to
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acceptance of the minutes that motion to
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accept the minutes.
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Okay.
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» Any questions?
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>> No comments about board reports in the
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minutes.
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» But no there's not. My point was to that
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was there there was no actionable items
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in in that in that documentation and a
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lot of dis disarray and confusion. So it
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best to just delete it without that
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there's something specific that was
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actual put it in there but all right
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it's all
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» okay that anybody else please
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all those in favor
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>> I post carried
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uh resolutions agenda item number one
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adopt local law number two 2026
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regarding Amending article 11 the code
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city of Portland related to burn
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>> I'll move it
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any questions discussion
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please
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council member to
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>> I council member Silus
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>> hi
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>> council member panel
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>> council member lane
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>> hi
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>> council member
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>> hi
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>> council member carpenter hi
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>> council member beckwith
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>> hi
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>> council member
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I
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>> agenda item number two. Adopt schedule
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of fees, fines, and penalties.
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» Resolved that the city of Portland
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schedule, excuse me, schedule of fees,
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fines, and penalties. the next year too.
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Uh B and the same hereby is adopted and
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implemented by this common council
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effective August 5th, 2026
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be further resolved with any fee fund or
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penalty being adjusted by said schedule
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which was previously paid and covering a
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period extending beyond August 5th,
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202.6
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shall not create an additional fee owing
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here. and be further resolved that to
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promote transparency and ensure
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convenient public access, the city clerk
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shall post that schedule on the homepage
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of the city website under the prominent
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heading fees and payments.
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And I've got the uh URL address listed
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there in the resolution as well as other
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key department pages where it can be
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readily found by the public and make
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such schedule available in hard copy
[19:50]
format in all city offices.
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I hear a motion.
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Mr. B Michaels any questions?
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>> When we do do the signage up
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if we approve it should be that taken by
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that call.
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>> Uh no um because those barcodes
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sometimes people put stickers over them
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and ch them right that
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>> I just I got people start sending money
[20:21]
to the wrong place. Well, we don't want
[20:23]
that to happen.
[20:24]
>> They text their code.
[20:27]
>> We'll just have to get it out there.
[20:28]
People aren't figuring it out. Anybody
[20:30]
else on the resolution?
[20:31]
>> I was under the impression after the
[20:32]
last code committee meeting, we were
[20:34]
going to get together one more time and
[20:35]
discuss would be revisions in front of
[20:38]
us.
[20:40]
>> I believe we did. That was I don't know.
[20:45]
But that was I think it was all signed same
[20:49]
as
[20:52]
>> I know Mr. Lewis said the document
[20:54]
present. So
[21:00]
» I talked to Roy about his concerns and
[21:03]
then said
[21:05]
>> were you in the impression we're going
[21:06]
to meet again or was I mistaken? I
[21:08]
missed a couple of those meetings, so I
[21:11]
could have very well missed the very
[21:12]
last.
[21:14]
I thought I thought we were also
[21:18]
Did you have
[21:19]
>> Yeah.
[21:20]
I thought
[21:23]
concerns or questions just
[21:29]
question. So page four through about
[21:33]
seven or eight uh change to the rental
[21:37]
certificate of compliance. Um I'm under
[21:40]
the impact this is what was just
[21:41]
instituted last year. Correct.
[21:44]
It was a change to the rental
[21:48]
correct
[21:50]
um the concern was raised that the
[21:54]
law as it was didn't uniformly treat all
[21:58]
landlords.
[21:59]
um this landlords who had and I'll use
[22:04]
the extreme example of the building on
[22:07]
Tomkins which is sorority that houses 65
[22:10]
young ladies um they were paying one
[22:14]
rate and because they were big they
[22:16]
received a greater discount than would
[22:19]
somebody who had a 12 unit apartment
[22:22]
building that would house the same 65
[22:25]
people. So, this basically treats the
[22:27]
people that are have a big sorority
[22:30]
house and the people that have
[22:32]
individual
[22:33]
one or two or four family units,
[22:35]
whatever they are, um the same way. So,
[22:38]
it it pulls those two things in line.
[22:41]
The other two changes that the committee
[22:44]
um came up with was um
[22:49]
if we do the it's one change, but
[22:51]
there's two parts to it. If we do the
[22:53]
inspection the first time around and if
[22:55]
for the three-year period the landlord
[22:58]
has no work orders put against their
[23:01]
property, meaning we don't have to go in
[23:02]
and mow the yard, we don't have to go in
[23:04]
and pick up garbage or anything like
[23:05]
that or clear the sidewalks. And if they
[23:08]
have no appearances that get sent to
[23:10]
court, so it doesn't mean they don't
[23:12]
have a violation in their inspection
[23:14]
because the violation could be
[23:15]
something, you know, pretty minor. But
[23:17]
if they get a notice of violation and
[23:19]
they cure it before it would have to go
[23:21]
to court, they would be allowed to renew
[23:23]
the next time around for 50%. of of the
[23:26]
renewal rate. So that's a big we they
[23:29]
really like the idea of providing an
[23:30]
incentive to landlords to keep the
[23:32]
properties up and stay in compliance. So
[23:35]
um those are really the two major
[23:37]
changes when it came to that component.
[23:38]
There's a few tweaks to some of the
[23:40]
other parts of the the vine. They're all
[23:42]
in red, but they're all pretty minor.
[23:44]
Um, okay. If you have any questions, I
[23:47]
can go over them.
[23:48]
>> Can you explain what what happens if
[23:50]
someone a landlord does have a lot of
[23:53]
violations, either code violations or or
[23:56]
quarters for this city,
[23:59]
>> their rental certificate of compliance
[24:02]
would be revoked. um at which point they
[24:05]
would have to appear in front of the
[24:06]
city's appeals panel to attempt to um
[24:11]
for lack of a better better word I'll
[24:13]
call it a plan of corrective action. Um
[24:15]
they would have to show how are we going
[24:17]
to become a better compliance property.
[24:19]
Um if it's a single family home and it's
[24:22]
has eight people living in it and that's
[24:24]
not workable for whatever reason, maybe
[24:26]
they need to reduce the occupancy. um
[24:28]
maybe they just got a really bad um
[24:31]
group of tenants and they're evicting
[24:34]
all of them and they want to try again
[24:35]
and they promise us we're going to
[24:37]
screen better the next time around. Um
[24:39]
so I mean there there's a lot of
[24:40]
different options that could come into
[24:42]
play. Um if they lose their rental
[24:45]
certificate, then it also loses the the
[24:48]
ability for the tenants to live there.
[24:50]
So they would also get cited with living
[24:52]
in a property without a rental
[24:53]
certificate. So it's kind of a two-way
[24:55]
street. And the number of people, the
[24:59]
number of occupants in a building is
[25:02]
based on New York state law.
[25:04]
>> New York State fire. Um, in order for a
[25:08]
prop to be occupied, a bed has to be a
[25:10]
certain number of square feet. I believe
[25:12]
it's 70
[25:16]
» 7 by 10.
[25:19]
>> It has to have a window. There has to be
[25:21]
an area.
[25:23]
>> And then if it's for two people, it's a
[25:24]
bigger square footage. three a bigger
[25:26]
square footage, four a bigger square
[25:27]
footage once you get to a certain number
[25:29]
of occupants. Then common areas also are
[25:33]
required to be of certain sizes. Um so
[25:36]
there's a whole matrix that the code
[25:38]
department goes through when they
[25:39]
determine what the appropriate um number
[25:42]
of occupants is. You can't you can't go
[25:45]
through one bedroom to get to the next
[25:47]
bedroom. So there has to be a separate
[25:48]
entrance from that bedroom. So the whole
[25:50]
list of things that they verify are
[25:52]
there. Can anybody be grandfathered in?
[25:56]
>> There's no grandfathering for that
[25:58]
because this is New York State Fire
[26:00]
Code. So, it's a health and safety code.
[26:01]
It's not a zoning code where it's a
[26:03]
prior non-conforming use. There is a
[26:06]
limited ability for a party to seek a
[26:10]
waiver from the New York State Fire. Um,
[26:13]
if the if the the bedroom is off by
[26:17]
three or five square ft or something
[26:18]
like that, my understanding is the state
[26:20]
will quite readily grant those waiverss.
[26:23]
If it's off by 10 or 15 square feet,
[26:25]
you're not going,
[26:29]
>> but we have no control over that. That's
[26:30]
up state fire whether or not they grant
[26:32]
a waiver. Um, I believe we may make a
[26:35]
recommendation on it when it goes in,
[26:36]
but it's really their call at the end of
[26:38]
the day.
[26:40]
>> Okay.
[26:41]
>> Yes.
[26:43]
So the part that's not changed um it
[26:46]
talks about the number of occupants for
[26:48]
four unit or less. Is it the number of
[26:52]
occupants that are actually there or the
[26:54]
number that it could possibly house
[26:56]
based upon state fire code or how how is
[27:00]
the number of occupants determined? It
[27:02]
it's determined on two things. one, they
[27:05]
fill out an application listing a number
[27:07]
of occupants and then when it's
[27:08]
inspected, it be determined whether or
[27:10]
not that number of occupants is um
[27:15]
correct. So, if you had a house with
[27:18]
four bedrooms in it, all of those
[27:19]
bedrooms may be appropriate size to put
[27:22]
two people in them. But if I'm a
[27:24]
landlord and I know I'm running to
[27:27]
students and they each want their own
[27:28]
bedroom, they don't want to share a
[27:29]
bedroom, I'm probably going to only ask
[27:31]
for four because it's cheaper than
[27:32]
asking for eight. So, yes, the size of
[27:35]
the rooms does determine the maximum
[27:37]
occupancy, but the landlord certainly
[27:39]
could ask for less, and I'm sure we do
[27:42]
have some landlords that do because the
[27:43]
preference seems to be one student per
[27:46]
room at this point.
[27:50]
Could you go over how the changes to the
[27:53]
rental certificate compliance, this
[27:56]
final version compares to the draft? We
[27:58]
made several revisions along the way and
[28:01]
uh my impression was we'd be getting a
[28:03]
side by side before we moved to the
[28:05]
vote. So I apologize if it's off on
[28:06]
that, but could you go through those
[28:08]
changes and how they compare to this
[28:10]
final draft?
[28:11]
>> Sure.
[28:18]
So for single unit properties, there was
[28:22]
no change the fee structure at all. um
[28:25]
for multi-unit properties, it treated
[28:28]
every unit as a $300 unit. So if you
[28:32]
take a 10unit property, um
[28:37]
it's
[28:40]
$1,900. In the past, that would have
[28:43]
been $3,000.
[28:45]
Um so if it the 19 unit compares to on
[28:48]
the other side to what it would be, so
[28:51]
that's really 37 to 40 occupants. Um
[28:55]
because most multi-units,
[28:58]
two, three bedrooms is the max. You're
[28:59]
not going to find a 10 unit where there
[29:01]
are five bedrooms. So um to kind of keep
[29:04]
that fair, it basically tracks the
[29:08]
number of occupants based on the number
[29:10]
of units. It's not an exact science, but
[29:13]
it it comes much closer into the
[29:15]
ballpark, and that's one of the things
[29:16]
the committee was concerned about. um
[29:20]
any litigation concerning um rental
[29:23]
things like this, the watch word for the
[29:25]
course is uniformity. Um so that was the
[29:28]
one thing that we wanted to make sure
[29:29]
that we were hitting was uniformity and
[29:32]
we feel this moves much closer to
[29:33]
uniformity. It's not exact. It never
[29:36]
will be, but it's it's pretty darn
[29:38]
close. Um
[29:41]
how do these the original revenue
[29:44]
projections, how does that compare to
[29:46]
the draft with the changes?
[29:49]
the original revenue projections were
[29:52]
undoubtedly overstated. Um
[29:56]
where it's going to come out.
[29:59]
It's really difficult to say um because
[30:02]
it's a three-year renewal process. Um
[30:06]
we've had some properties that we did
[30:09]
send letters out to that for the first
[30:12]
time in years and years and years we're
[30:15]
getting an application on. So, that's
[30:18]
obviously going to be an increase. Um,
[30:20]
other properties,
[30:22]
um,
[30:24]
you know, we we are working with the
[30:26]
landlords to get the inspections and
[30:28]
things done. Where it's actually going
[30:31]
to come out. Roy could probably tell you
[30:32]
better than I can. I don't follow that
[30:34]
department's budgetary numbers. Um,
[30:39]
I think he was expecting to come out
[30:41]
[clears throat]
[30:42]
>> right about 50 to 60% of that what was
[30:45]
budgeted. Yeah. Originally, I think he
[30:47]
was thinking 50 or a little less. I
[30:49]
think now it's probably 50 to 60.
[30:50]
Something's going to come out a little
[30:51]
better than expected, but not where it
[30:54]
was budgeted.
[30:54]
>> And that's as percentage of the
[30:56]
original. Correct. Correct.
[30:57]
>> And when this process went through, the
[30:59]
Chief Reedman requested that 50% of what
[31:02]
was in there as realistic numbered.
[31:05]
>> The biggest key, Tom, is you got you're
[31:08]
going to have to follow is the ones that
[31:10]
in the past that don't obey what rights
[31:14]
we're going to have to go after them. I
[31:15]
know we got ours all sent in or they're
[31:17]
due to be sent in. They're all filled
[31:18]
out, but
[31:21]
in the past people didn't do it. I don't
[31:23]
think we had any legal thing to go after
[31:25]
them for not doing it. Well, two two
[31:28]
things that come into play there. Um the
[31:31]
college has worked with us that in order
[31:34]
to
[31:36]
use your student aid for rental, it
[31:38]
needs to be a city approved property.
[31:40]
So, that's one of the things. So, if
[31:42]
somebody doesn't get their certificates
[31:43]
in, we will notify the college that that
[31:45]
property is out of compliance and then
[31:47]
they can't use their student aid to pay
[31:49]
their rent. Um, which does then put a
[31:52]
hardship on the landlord unfortunately
[31:53]
because they'll have to evict that
[31:54]
student. But, um,
[31:56]
>> but I'm talking about some of our
[31:58]
properties that are college,
[31:59]
>> right? College housing, it's another
[32:01]
issue. Um, I mean, a lot of the the
[32:04]
properties also receive property from
[32:06]
section of money through section 8. we
[32:08]
can contact section 8, let them know the
[32:10]
property is non-compliant. I can't
[32:12]
guarantee you section 8 will do anything
[32:13]
with that, but we can contact them and
[32:15]
let them know. Um, you know, so I mean
[32:18]
there there are avenues that are
[32:19]
available to us and they will be cited
[32:21]
with a notice of violation and
[32:22]
eventually an appearance ticket and
[32:23]
they'll be taken to court and any fine
[32:26]
that is levied by the court on these
[32:29]
will be relevied against the property if
[32:31]
the owner doesn't pay it. So eventually
[32:33]
the property would end up being taken
[32:34]
for back taxes. But I think you have the
[32:37]
right to do something or sexual section
[32:39]
8 is being a health and safety. I think
[32:41]
the city should be able to step in. And
[32:43]
if it's a health and safety issue, we if
[32:45]
it's precedes everything,
[32:47]
>> right? I mean, the property can be shut
[32:49]
down when the threat is imminent to
[32:50]
lower it.
[32:51]
>> The state did change that that code a
[32:54]
little bit to make it a little harder
[32:55]
for the city to do that. I mean, it has
[32:56]
to be a true imminent threat now. Um,
[32:59]
but if there is an imminent threat, I
[33:00]
mean, they can clear the property and
[33:02]
secure it. All in all, I think the
[33:05]
numbers are going to be substantial if
[33:07]
we can get everybody's compliant.
[33:13]
» So the numbers in red, the five units
[33:15]
and more goes up significantly. Uh
[33:18]
there's no comparison. Were these these
[33:20]
were changed. So were they brought down?
[33:22]
>> They were all lowered. They were all
[33:24]
lowered.
[33:26]
>> Basically, if you take the number of
[33:27]
units, it would have been times 300
[33:29]
under the old scheme. So under the old
[33:31]
system it was so if you had a 100 units
[33:34]
it would have been $30,000 now it's
[33:36]
15,000 something but that makes it
[33:38]
closer to apples to apples with the
[33:41]
large
[33:44]
single buildings best way I can put it
[33:46]
the fraternity houses sority houses and
[33:48]
they're the ones that are the that
[33:50]
you're going to find 40 people living in
[33:51]
a single house 60 people living in a
[33:53]
single house
[33:54]
>> Brian when they first started the fee
[33:56]
schedule was
[33:57]
>> yeah okay so that would force landlords,
[34:02]
you could reach out and get your own
[34:03]
engineer to come in and certify it. We
[34:06]
didn't want to do that because the fire
[34:07]
department's going to have to fight the
[34:08]
fire. We we brought it way down more
[34:10]
reasonable to make them take control
[34:16]
cuz you want the fire department to get
[34:18]
in there. Some of them we probably won't
[34:19]
be able to probably like you know we
[34:21]
should be able to do them all but we
[34:24]
need to be there and be active and
[34:27]
proactive I guess is the word to say to
[34:29]
have the fire department will come in
[34:30]
inspect them all. So when we talk and
[34:33]
>> you know it's nice to have the fire
[34:34]
department there the inspections but by
[34:36]
right as a landlord you can find your
[34:39]
own inspector to go in and do them
[34:41]
>> and a lot of times it's this this is
[34:42]
what you get. They never even come to
[34:44]
the place. We don't want that. We want
[34:45]
the fire department to be involved. So,
[34:47]
we brought the fee schedule
[34:48]
>> to incentivize that.
[34:50]
>> Yeah. Way down.
[34:52]
>> And we had to give the fight the
[34:55]
landlords a choice by law. We couldn't
[34:58]
just demand the facility.
[34:59]
>> I'm not saying someone still won't do
[35:01]
it, but then the ones we
[35:04]
>> we didn't want to condone the places
[35:05]
anyway. So,
[35:06]
>> and we did limit them to do the
[35:08]
inspections for a landlord to a licensed
[35:10]
design professional.
[35:12]
>> So, they can't just get somebody to walk
[35:14]
through it and say, "It looks good to
[35:15]
me." So whoever puts their signature
[35:18]
stand up putting their license at the
[35:20]
risk if they're doing the you know
[35:23]
taking it just not looking at the
[35:25]
property. So no guarantee it won't
[35:27]
happen right
[35:28]
>> but if you have a professional
[35:29]
engineering license for an architecture
[35:31]
license
[35:32]
>> you probably don't want to lose it.
[35:35]
>> So the fees are the proposed fees are
[35:38]
going down but the expected revenue is
[35:40]
up.
[35:40]
>> Well they're going down for what the
[35:42]
original proposition said like So what
[35:46]
is budgeted? They're they're
[35:47]
anticipating just based on getting the
[35:49]
house to all those sites. What was
[35:51]
budgeted was budgeted was more for a
[35:54]
three-year plan because everybody's on a
[35:56]
three-year cycle for that inspection. It
[35:57]
was not attainable to get it in one
[35:59]
year. So that was one flaw. And then the
[36:02]
second flaw was that. So the idea is to
[36:05]
they it's going to hit 50 to 60% as a
[36:08]
projected number of what they are. We're
[36:10]
not finances next meeting. Good. We'll
[36:12]
take a look at that next meeting.
[36:16]
are publicly numbered right now, but
[36:19]
>> well, it's something new. So,
[36:20]
>> yeah. I mean, all the good landlords had
[36:23]
no problem. What's going on? And like
[36:26]
you made a good point.
[36:27]
>> You're going to have some trouble
[36:28]
landlord.
[36:29]
>> The college kids do look at this stuff
[36:31]
now. Back in the old days, they didn't.
[36:34]
A lot of these parents wanted, hey, do
[36:36]
they have, you know, a certificate? They
[36:38]
do look at it.
[36:39]
>> And if they don't have it, they're not
[36:40]
going to let their kid go.
[36:41]
>> Yeah.
[36:42]
and knowing that they were going to site
[36:44]
the landlord, they don't apply, which is
[36:46]
because
[36:47]
>> that they had to have a certificate
[36:49]
posted next to the door. Correct.
[36:51]
>> Correct.
[36:51]
>> But I don't think I ever saw that. Well,
[36:54]
you put them up there, but the next time
[36:55]
you go there, fire escape plan, the size
[36:58]
of the rooms, all that's got to be
[36:59]
posted into
[37:05]
» So, I had been under the impression
[37:08]
perhaps I could have been more clear
[37:09]
with my request that we in the final
[37:11]
proposal would have a sidebyside
[37:13]
comparing it to the original. Um, I had
[37:17]
some concerns about the scale of the
[37:19]
reduction from the original proposal.
[37:22]
Um, I don't want to hold things up too
[37:24]
much. I'm happy to have conversations on
[37:26]
the side. Um, my concerns are specific
[37:29]
to the the code changes and since we'll
[37:34]
be getting the finances on it next week,
[37:36]
I think it may make more sense to hold
[37:40]
off on this section of it until we have
[37:42]
a, you know, an impact on the the
[37:44]
finances and vote on this next meeting.
[37:49]
There is no code changes in this
[37:51]
proposal.
[37:51]
>> I think he means the the RCC fees that
[37:54]
are changing.
[37:55]
>> Yes.
[38:02]
» So you want to vote on it
[38:05]
except for that section or hold the
[38:07]
whole thing in time next time?
[38:09]
>> My biggest concern is with this section
[38:11]
and and the impact on the finances from
[38:14]
it. So, I'm planning moving forward with
[38:16]
the rest of this meeting if that
[38:18]
streamlines things or that's beneficial
[38:20]
and just discussing this section at next
[38:23]
council meeting if that works for
[38:25]
others.
[38:26]
>> I'll just vote no.
[38:27]
>> I can do that as well. I was proposing a
[38:30]
compromise.
[38:31]
>> Yeah, maybe a compromise would be this
[38:32]
can always be amended. These rates are
[38:34]
done. We did it by resolution for that
[38:36]
reason, but unless there's a majority of
[38:39]
us to do it, there's a lot of other ones
[38:41]
that impact that. It's all one document.
[38:43]
You're getting too close to college.
[38:45]
>> Yeah.
[38:46]
>> Well, I but I think I think you know to request respect your past. I think we
[38:52]
could have that discussion more and then
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go back and just amend those if you
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wanted to later.
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» I'm more comfortable voting no currently
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than having discussion in this feature.
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>> But I would still like that.
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>> I would as well. So I I do appreciate
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that, Mr. Mayor. Right.
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>> Anybody else?
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Wait, excuse me. Page 11, the garbage
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fees for the dumpster corral. Uh,
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there's a number and then there's a
[39:20]
number in parentheses. Were these an
[39:22]
adjustment?
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>> Those are an adjustment as well. That
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does show the side by side. Um,
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the anything in parentheses is what it
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was before. So, if it says new, like as
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you'll see underneath the graffiti
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removal, the work order fees, that's
[39:38]
new. um if the number is in parenthesis
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it in that case they went down. Um and
[39:46]
the reason that went down is because
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when we went through the budget with the
[39:51]
garbage committee
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the fees that were listed were not were
[39:56]
more than charging for the service we're
[39:58]
providing. And the goal was never for
[40:00]
garbage to be a money maker. It was to
[40:02]
be to cover the costs of the garbage.
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And the fees just did not line up with
[40:06]
that. So, we went through and refigured
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out the fees um
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and created some more categories because
[40:15]
again, you were treating a restaurant
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like say community the same as New York
[40:22]
bagel who doesn't really have anywhere
[40:25]
near the sit down capacity and the the
[40:27]
type of garbage they're creating, you
[40:28]
know, or the Hollywood is completely
[40:30]
different to a, you know, a small shop
[40:32]
that might only be open for breakfast or
[40:34]
lunch or just serve coffee or something
[40:36]
like staff. So, it creates two tiers of
[40:38]
restaurants, two tiers of retail
[40:40]
businesses. Um, it creates a new um
[40:45]
small office um and then also a
[40:49]
commercial one and commercial two um
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rest, you know, uh category
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example there. when Central obviously is
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a big office,
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Ed Gooler is one guy with maybe a
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part-time secretary that he has. It's
[41:07]
not fair that they're paying the same
[41:08]
amount for garbage. So, it just again to
[41:11]
try to get that uniformity, try to keep
[41:12]
things fair, we created some more
[41:14]
categories and went through and
[41:15]
reallocated everything. Um, and we
[41:17]
looked at what it would be like once the
[41:19]
all of downtown is laid out with the
[41:20]
garbage um corral system. And this will
[41:24]
more than cover the cost and provide a
[41:26]
little bit of extra money for keeping
[41:28]
the fencing up to date replacing things
[41:30]
that need to be replaced and things like
[41:32]
that. Um
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Chuck did a very long analysis of that
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to come up with what the keep out
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correct u
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amounts were for that.
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>> Anybody else?
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Page 14, uh, parking fees,
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business and residential lists a one, a
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three, six month, and then 12 month.
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The, and it looks like it's scaled so
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that the longer the permit that you get,
[42:04]
the less per month that you pay,
[42:06]
correct? But when you look at
[42:08]
residential, the six month, uh, it's
[42:11]
sort of an anomaly. It's more than
[42:15]
>> math doesn't math. really expensive.
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>> It's more expensive to get a six month
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than to get two three month
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» or to get a one month or six months.
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» It is a good catch that is tight for um
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you want to do math now or should we
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approve and come back?
[42:45]
Everybody's looking at your calculator.
[42:47]
Yeah, I'll I'll need a couple seconds to
[42:49]
do some math on that.
[42:50]
>> Okay,
[42:52]
>> we'll add a new line and we'll go back.
[42:57]
» Thank you.
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So for instance, if um if we talk to
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Portland
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County
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and Homer and they want to chip in
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um we might revisit the cost of
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nonresidential swim passes right
[43:21]
down the road,
[43:21]
>> right?
[43:22]
>> That would be great. Yeah. I mean,
[43:25]
again, we hate to have to have charge
[43:26]
those not working. I wish we didn't have
[43:29]
to put that column in.
[43:31]
>> I know,
[43:31]
>> but that happened. Yeah.
[43:33]
>> It did.
[43:37]
» It's good you brought that up. That's
[43:38]
page 16. That is a reduction. That
[43:41]
corrects
[43:42]
>> the swim season passes family,
[43:45]
>> adult, child.
[43:46]
>> Yeah.
[43:47]
>> Senior, they're all going to be
[43:49]
decreased.
[43:50]
>> Yeah. Those 125 and now it's for example
[43:55]
family was 225 and now 100 just
[43:59]
unbearable for for people we went
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discouraged people go away
[44:06]
originally
[44:07]
digital process was almost a punishment
[44:10]
it's not fair to them
[44:12]
>> doable
[44:13]
>> it should be $189
[44:17]
is what it is is if you do a three
[44:19]
threemonth path It's a 5% discount. A
[44:21]
six-month pass is a 10% discount. The
[44:24]
full year pass is a 15% discount.
[44:26]
>> So, six months is what?
[44:28]
>> Uh 6 months to 10% discount. It should
[44:31]
be 189 for the residential rate and then
[44:34]
the 12-month rate is a 15% discount. So,
[44:36]
it's just 5 10 15. The discount grows
[44:39]
the longer you do it.
[44:40]
>> So, are the others accurate?
[44:42]
>> The rest of them are all correct. Yes.
[44:45]
>> So, what is the amount for residential
[44:47]
12 month? 357 for 12 month, 189 for 6
[44:51]
month.
[44:55]
» Good math.
[44:58]
>> We did that. Hope people
[45:04]
» Anybody else? So you got that amendment?
[45:07]
>> Amendment. Okay. Thank you.
[45:11]
>> Anybody else?
[45:14]
Please.
[45:17]
Hi,
[45:18]
>> Council Member Silicon.
[45:19]
>> Hi,
[45:19]
>> Council Member Canelo.
[45:20]
>> Hi,
[45:21]
>> Council Member Lane.
[45:22]
>> Hi,
[45:22]
>> Council Member Calmer.
[45:23]
>> No,
[45:24]
>> Council Member Carpenter.
[45:25]
>> Hi,
[45:26]
>> Council Member Backwood.
[45:27]
>> Hi, Council Member Michaels.
[45:29]
>> Hi.
[45:31]
>> Agenda item number three, accept and
[45:33]
recognize donation for the fire
[45:35]
department.
[45:39]
Resolve that the city of Portland County
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Council on behalf of Mayor Steve and the
[45:43]
fire department expresses its gratitude
[45:45]
for the generosity of the donors below.
[45:48]
Be it further resolved that the council
[45:49]
hereby accepts a donation of it below
[45:51]
and appropriates into the accounts and
[45:53]
for the purposes that's made below a
[45:56]
donation from James and Cassandra Lewis
[45:59]
now $100
[46:01]
um into the TE 2044 account for
[46:05]
automated external difficult
[46:17]
Hi,
[46:18]
>> Council Member Ser.
[46:19]
>> Hi,
[46:20]
>> Council Member Panel. Hi,
[46:21]
>> Council Member Lane.
[46:22]
>> Hi,
[46:23]
>> Council Member Con.
[46:24]
>> Hi, Council Member Carpenter. Hi,
[46:26]
>> Council Member Beck.
[46:27]
>> Hi, Council Member Michaels.
[46:28]
>> Hi.
[46:29]
>> Item number four, accept and recognize
[46:31]
donations to the police department.
[46:33]
>> Resolved that the city of Corman County
[46:34]
Council on behalf of Mayor Steve and the
[46:36]
police department expresses its
[46:37]
gratitude for the generosity of the
[46:39]
donors below. We further resolve that
[46:42]
common council hereby accepts the
[46:43]
donation listed below. donation listed
[46:46]
below and appropriates it to the
[46:48]
accounts and for the purposes
[46:49]
designated. Donation from Dorothy Duff
[46:52]
in the amount of $1,749.98
[46:57]
uh for the purchase of a K9 ballistic
[46:59]
vest for P9 Addie and it'll be deposited
[47:02]
to account TEO21.
[47:05]
>> I'll move that second.
[47:07]
>> No, Miss Lane.
[47:09]
>> Chief, we got to get Addie at maybe at
[47:11]
the next meeting. Can we get that to
[47:12]
happen so everybody can
[47:13]
>> Thank you very
[47:20]
much.
[47:20]
>> Council member Tob.
[47:22]
>> Hi.
[47:22]
>> Council member Sllan.
[47:23]
>> Hi.
[47:23]
>> Council member Panelloo.
[47:24]
>> Hi.
[47:25]
>> Council member Lane.
[47:26]
>> Hi.
[47:26]
>> Council member Conlin.
[47:27]
>> Hi.
[47:28]
>> Council member Carpenter.
[47:29]
>> Hi.
[47:29]
>> Council member Beckwit.
[47:30]
>> Hi.
[47:30]
>> Council member Michaels.
[47:32]
>> Hi.
[47:32]
>> Agenda item number five. Adopt policy
[47:34]
for review and approval of murals in the
[47:37]
historic district. Resolved that the
[47:40]
city of Coral County Council hereby
[47:41]
endorses and adopts the policy next tier
[47:44]
2 titled policy for review and approval
[47:46]
of murals in the historic district
[47:48]
effective immediately and be it further
[47:50]
resolved that the historic commission
[47:52]
city clerk and the city code and zoning
[47:54]
enforcement officer and then I got a
[47:58]
typo to correct are authorized and
[48:00]
directed to implement the procedure set
[48:02]
forth in set policy for all future mural
[48:06]
proposals within the historic district
[48:10]
>> motion senator
[48:14]
any questions just real quick like I
[48:16]
mentioned last meeting something
[48:18]
actually talk to Linda about that maybe
[48:20]
we can get their help on that building
[48:22]
so
[48:22]
>> the art commission will be discussion
[48:26]
involved
[48:26]
>> next so if somebody wants a mural on
[48:31]
their building they would have the
[48:33]
artist do a mockup and then that would
[48:36]
go for
[48:38]
>> historic
[48:38]
>> the the appropriate commission historic
[48:41]
if it's downtown or committee if it's
[48:43]
elsewhere.
[48:45]
>> Okay. And so it wouldn't come before
[48:48]
council at all.
[48:51]
Um, I think in the policy it does state
[48:53]
that the commission makes
[48:55]
recommendations for the for the council.
[49:02]
100 and a lot of that stuff Katy that we
[49:05]
don't see like the zoning the
[49:09]
planning department the historical
[49:11]
department we don't normally see unless
[49:13]
>> somebody's not happy with their decision
[49:15]
they have the right to decide we don't
[49:18]
see what they say we don't norally do
[49:19]
that we take the recommendations same
[49:21]
with the police commission the fire
[49:23]
commission
[49:24]
>> I I just wanted to uh double check
[49:26]
before I spoke uh so in terms of
[49:29]
approval of a mural it would not come
[49:32]
before the council. Um the so currently
[49:36]
any u certificate of appropriateness in
[49:40]
the historic district if somebody wants
[49:42]
to make a modification to the facade
[49:46]
um they receive a certificate of
[49:47]
appropriateness from the historic
[49:49]
commission and appeals are through the
[49:52]
CPA. This would um be the same appeal
[49:56]
process. If the commission denied a um
[50:01]
mural or some aspect of it, the appeal
[50:04]
would go to the ZBA.
[50:06]
>> Okay.
[50:06]
>> Then so this process would remain
[50:09]
consistent with the existing process for
[50:13]
facade changes.
[50:16]
>> Okay.
[50:17]
We did the other murals or Y's vision in
[50:20]
the bank was saying, you know, it's a
[50:23]
similar process passively. We need to
[50:25]
make it official.
[50:26]
>> Have to put our faith in other people's
[50:30]
aesthetics.
[50:32]
>> Okay.
[50:34]
>> Which you do
[50:36]
>> if you're RC
[50:37]
>> and that's the purpose of appointing the
[50:40]
people. Yes.
[50:42]
>> Anybody else? Anyone please?
[50:44]
>> Council member Tober. I
[50:46]
>> council member Silman.
[50:47]
>> Hi.
[50:47]
>> Council member Panel.
[50:48]
>> Hi. Council
[50:49]
>> member Lane.
[50:50]
>> Hi.
[50:50]
>> Council member Conway.
[50:51]
>> Hi.
[50:52]
>> Council member Carpenter.
[50:53]
>> Hi.
[50:53]
>> Council member Beckwith.
[50:54]
>> Hi.
[50:55]
>> Council member Michaels.
[50:56]
>> Hi.
[50:57]
>> Agenda item number six. Set public
[50:59]
hearings on proposed local laws
[51:00]
confirming with the agreement of the
[51:02]
county of Portland for the collection of
[51:04]
real properties tax.
[51:07]
>> Resolve that the following public
[51:09]
hearings are hereby scheduled. a public
[51:12]
hearing August 8th, 2026 to adopt the
[51:16]
local law repealing local law number one
[51:18]
of 20ou of 1994.
[51:21]
Uh this would opt out of the tax
[51:23]
enforcement provisions of chapter 602
[51:27]
of the laws of New York State of 1993.
[51:31]
uh effective January 1st, 2027.
[51:34]
Public hearing saying, all these are uh
[51:37]
August 18th at 6 PM. The second to
[51:40]
repeal article five of chapter 254
[51:45]
uh related to collection of delinquent
[51:48]
taxes.
[51:49]
Uh the third to amend article 21 section
[51:53]
six of the charter to change the date of
[51:56]
the mayor's budget uh submission from
[51:59]
October 15th to August 15th
[52:03]
and a public hearing to amend article 21
[52:07]
section 10 of the charter to change the
[52:10]
date that the conf council must adopt
[52:11]
the final city budget from December 31st
[52:14]
to October 31st.
[52:17]
All these being effect would be
[52:19]
effective January 1st, 2027.
[52:22]
Be further resolved that the above
[52:24]
public hearing shall be held on October
[52:26]
18th, 2026 at 6:00 p.m. at 25 Court
[52:30]
Street. Be further resolved that the
[52:32]
city clerks hereby authorize and
[52:34]
directed to publish notice of said
[52:35]
public hearings in the official
[52:37]
newspaper of the city in accordance with
[52:39]
applicable provisions of New York State
[52:41]
Law and the city charter and code of
[52:43]
ordinances. I think
[52:45]
>> I think you said October 18.
[52:49]
>> Did I say misspoke? It is. It should be
[52:52]
August.
[52:56]
» Second.
[52:58]
>> Any questions?
[53:02]
» Please.
[53:03]
>> Council member Tob.
[53:04]
>> Hi.
[53:04]
>> Council member Silicon. Hi.
[53:06]
>> Council member Panel.
[53:07]
>> Council member Lane.
[53:08]
>> Hi.
[53:08]
>> Council member Condo.
[53:10]
>> Hi.
[53:10]
>> Council member Carpenter. Hi.
[53:11]
>> Council member Beckwit. Hi. Council
[53:13]
member Michael.
[53:16]
>> All right. With that said, I'll take a
[53:17]
motion for adjournment.
[53:22]
All in favor?
[53:28]
Father, Amen.