[0:19] Don't we have something on the

[0:23] » All right. I'd like to call to order the

[0:25] August 24th uh premeating. We have a

[0:28] plan RBA uh to discuss the three notched

[0:31] trails. So, first so much for for coming

[0:34] out and we'll turn it right over to you.

[0:35] >> Thank you. Yeah. Um I'll go ahead and

[0:37] see if I can share this right quick.

[0:39] Here

[0:48] we go. Uh, yes. Thank you for having me.

[0:51] I am Bill Rian. I am a transportation

[0:54] planner for Plan RBA and have been there

[0:57] for about 10 years. Just finished my

[0:58] 10th year. Fellow Mer across the the way

[1:01] here. Um, I was going to say, um, I've

[1:05] been working with, uh, Lean Webb and

[1:08] Megan Heatwall on this this plan. They

[1:10] are part of our stakeholder team. Um,

[1:14] it's really the western spine, but we've

[1:16] been calling it three notches.

[1:17] [laughter] Three notches is nowhere near

[1:18] here. It's kind of uh, more of that

[1:21] corridor between Richmond and

[1:23] Charlottesville, but it's it's how we we

[1:25] hope to get a connection between

[1:27] Richmond and Charlottesville. really if

[1:29] you think about it all the way down the

[1:30] peninsula um using the Capitol Trail up

[1:33] to Stanton. That's an eventual goal of

[1:36] this but for us it's just within our

[1:38] region. So um

[1:42] the you can see on the goals here

[1:44] identify that preferred corridor along

[1:46] the western spine. Like I said we've got

[1:47] a stakeholder team. We've been working

[1:49] with all the different localities

[1:51] between Richmond and well the Bana

[1:54] County U boundary.

[1:57] But all these are a part of our efforts

[2:00] here. You know, trying to get a

[2:01] multi-use trail facility uh to, you

[2:04] know, enhance regional active

[2:06] transportation network. That's my main

[2:07] thing. I'm an active transportation

[2:09] planner. Uh but trying to get, you know,

[2:11] safer access uh connecting uh key

[2:15] locations and and destinations uh

[2:17] population centers. This particular

[2:19] study we started last uh summer and you

[2:22] know, we have to wrap it up by December.

[2:25] So pretty tight timeline. We've gone

[2:27] through three of four of the stakeholder

[2:30] committees. So again, the who we're

[2:33] working with uh each of the five

[2:34] localities, Cuchand Powan, Chesterfield,

[2:37] Enriiko, and the city of Richmond. And

[2:39] then we've been consulting in the

[2:41] background with uh Virginia uh Capital

[2:44] Trail Foundation, which obviously they

[2:46] set a high precedent with that trail um

[2:49] the soil and water conservation

[2:50] district, the Capital Region Land

[2:52] Conservancy. And then outside of our

[2:54] region, we've been working with the uh

[2:57] everything that's west. So our planning

[2:59] would end in at that Gland Fana boundary

[3:03] but um we've been working with the

[3:05] Thomas Jefferson uh planning district

[3:06] commission city of Charlottesville

[3:08] Abomar and Fana counties and then the

[3:11] Ravana trail conservy because it all

[3:13] kind of started with them and then in

[3:15] that connectivity for the state the uh

[3:18] the VOTE state trail state office of

[3:21] trails.

[3:24] So what we're what we really are trying

[3:26] to do is work with what we've already

[3:28] got. We there's planning in each of the nine localities in the Richmond

[3:32] region. We've just used some of the

[3:34] planning that already exists and and and

[3:37] adding that. Then we're looking at how

[3:39] do we then connect gaps or close the

[3:42] gaps I should say uh with all of these

[3:44] different localities. And you know again

[3:47] the exercise is to identify that

[3:48] feasible continuous regionally supported

[3:50] western spine. you know, Richmond all

[3:53] the way to or at least toward

[3:56] Charlottesville. So, again, this is

[3:58] pulled from our regional bicycle and

[4:00] pedestrian plan. Some of you may be

[4:02] familiar with that. It's it was approved

[4:04] by our policy board um in May of 22 and

[4:07] we're on every couple years we're

[4:09] updating all of that data. Um this is

[4:12] the existing

[4:14] [clears throat and laughter] facilities

[4:14] in the region. Um we've got uh

[4:18] approximately 210 combined miles of of

[4:21] different bike bike bike infrastructure.

[4:23] Um you know you see that big blue line

[4:26] heading off to the southeast there.

[4:28] That's the capital trail. We're working

[4:29] on fall line which you can see a little

[4:31] blue line from that blob in the center

[4:34] there Ashlin heading down. That's going

[4:36] to be a 43 mile trail connecting Ashlin

[4:39] to Petersburg. So that's our north and

[4:41] south spine.

[4:43] >> Here's south end. We've got one mile

[4:47] that's along the Hugenot trail. Uh

[4:50] Robius Road kind of continues and and

[4:51] when it gets to the line, there's that

[4:53] one mile. So, got more work to get done,

[4:56] but that's the beginning. Okay. Um

[4:59] here's that spine network. And this is

[5:01] something that we've had our uh through

[5:04] our local um technical advisory

[5:07] committee that they worked uh we worked

[5:10] with them to to put this together. the spines, the red lines, those are the

[5:16] uh we're trying to get all these other

[5:18] trails to connect through those. And

[5:19] you, as you can see, the red line in

[5:22] Palatan, that is Hugenat Trail or Route

[5:24] 7-Eleven connecting up uh 522 to Guland.

[5:28] We've had that as a spine. Um and and

[5:32] Guland's got Route 6 as their spine. Um

[5:35] there are gaps within that. The blue is

[5:38] the spurs. Those are supposed to connect

[5:40] to other uh trails to feed toward the

[5:43] spines. And as you can see, there's a

[5:45] huge gap just to the west in in the

[5:49] Richmond area. There's no spine. So,

[5:52] some of that effort, what we were doing

[5:54] with this committee is is trying to

[5:55] again identify and strengthen some of

[5:58] those potential connections. Um, not all

[6:01] of these exist. This is some existing

[6:04] like the Capitol Trail. The fall line is being built now, but some of it's

[6:08] aspirational like our proposed

[6:10] connections. So again, here's the the

[6:15] capital trail and you got the the fault

[6:17] line. That's that spine network. We're

[6:19] working on the western part. Now, this

[6:22] is jumbled up, very uh confusing.

[6:25] There's a lot of proposed and as you can

[6:27] see in Pitan, I'll just zoom in.

[6:31] we you have a trails plan. I'm pretty

[6:34] sure according to Megan, you guys uh

[6:36] approved all this, but you know, there

[6:39] was a whole plan and you know, so we're basically working with [laughter]

[6:43] the Hugenat Trail and 522. Um, but I'm

[6:47] also here on behalf of how can we work

[6:50] with this as well, whether it's to get,

[6:52] you know, funding, which I've been

[6:54] working with Megan some on, you know,

[6:56] what could um, you know, what's the low

[6:59] hanging fruit using, you know, your

[7:01] existing plan, what's your highest

[7:02] priorities, which you've identified in

[7:04] your your trails plan. So, again, you

[7:07] know, how do we make those things happen

[7:08] too, not just the the theuh three notch

[7:11] trail plan? Um, again, I won't go into

[7:14] too much of this, but on the other side

[7:16] of Charlottesville, they're working on

[7:17] the Crosseé Trail, and that's supposed

[7:20] to connect essentially from western

[7:22] Charlottesville all the way to Afton

[7:23] Mountain. Uh, it's a pretty big effort,

[7:26] kind of similar to um, Gutland and

[7:30] Powatan in that there's a lot of horse

[7:32] country here. So again, like is this

[7:34] trail not just a multiuse trail for

[7:37] bikes, runners, pedestrians, but for

[7:40] horses as well? So, you know, every

[7:43] trail that we've done, uh, fall line is

[7:46] one where we're like, "Hey, handover,

[7:47] how much of this should be considered,

[7:50] you know, horse trail as well, cuz you

[7:52] really have to plan ahead. You those

[7:53] trailers when people are bringing

[7:55] horses, you've probably been to the, if

[7:57] you've been to the Palatan State Park,

[7:59] there's a lot of extra parking to to

[8:01] accommodate those types of vehicles. So,

[8:03] anyway, that's happening right now. um

[8:06] you know it's Charlottesville to Aftton

[8:07] Mountain there terrain uh issues but

[8:10] they're generally following the rail

[8:12] line corridor so the slope is more

[8:15] gradual not going straight up the

[8:16] mountain like you know you see with 64

[8:19] as it climbs after again we're working

[8:21] with other you know the state outdoors

[8:23] plan uh BOT has uh multiple plans and so

[8:27] those are advising some of this so we

[8:29] don't have to reinvent the wheel every

[8:31] time

[8:33] um again the the one One other thing and

[8:36] part of the reason that there is uh any

[8:38] trail mentioned on um Hugenot trail is

[8:43] you know there was in 2013 the James

[8:45] River Heritage Trail plan. So again a

[8:47] lot of these communities a lot of the I

[8:49] should say counties and localities use

[8:52] that uh do I'm sorry department of

[8:54] conservation recreation plan the James

[8:56] Heritage Trail to have that orange line

[8:59] added to their their comp plans. So

[9:03] again, we're trying to uh build support

[9:05] for this. This is just being done within

[9:08] staff. This is not a huge public effort

[9:10] at this time, but you know, our project

[9:12] terminating

[9:18] with Fluana on how would we move through

[9:20] how would a trail move through the

[9:22] county to Charlottesville and then um

[9:25] you know obviously to to the east

[9:27] there's fall line of Capitol Trail. We

[9:29] want to make sure we connect all the

[9:30] way, not just, you know, to Hugenot

[9:32] Bridge um in in in Reicho and and the

[9:36] city. We've had three meetings so far

[9:38] with our stakeholder group with one more

[9:40] planned in November and that's sort of

[9:42] the, you know, we uh are near the

[9:46] finished product and we're going to, you

[9:48] know, kind of go over it with them at

[9:49] that time. So um the the previous

[9:52] meeting uh let's see yeah

[9:55] all these different lines different

[9:57] colors are representing each locality um

[10:01] panz sort of a teal color um but the

[10:05] point has been we were working through

[10:07] the stakeholder group to cut away a lot

[10:10] of these uh to you know the dotted line

[10:12] that's in Gland that was one of the

[10:14] first things they said that's not going

[10:15] to work that's actually three notched

[10:17] corridor the old um three notched

[10:20] [clears throat] road was uh in place and

[10:22] then you know that's how US 250 came

[10:24] about. Um so but they've sort of settled

[10:27] on that route six corridor. Um several

[10:30] of those Henriko lines it's just now

[10:32] reduced to that one that's closest to

[10:34] the James River that that darker blue.

[10:37] Chesterfield has uh Robius Road along um

[10:41] [clears throat] Hugnot Road into Bonaire

[10:43] and then there's a series of ones in the

[10:45] in Richmond because I haven't been able

[10:46] to get them to really commit fully to

[10:49] just one line. But um in Pan, we've been

[10:53] working with U Lian Web and and Megan.

[10:56] It's sort of incorporating a few extra

[10:58] lines, but really that 711 corridor is

[11:01] where we this is aspirational, not like

[11:04] we've invented something new. It's using

[11:06] what you've already had in your comp

[11:08] plans. Um, so we call that the James

[11:12] River Loop. Yes, sir.

[11:13] >> Question on that. So, would you have it

[11:15] going all the way to 522 and then north

[11:19] um of 522 or or does it cut over

[11:22] >> that old river trail, which is what that

[11:25] little blurb is right there? the from

[11:28] Maidens at 522 that Guchand actually has

[11:31] a greenway trail planned just east of

[11:35] the the courthouse. So it's not right

[11:38] down the middle of the road on on Route

[11:40] 6. Is that is that what you're asking?

[11:41] >> No, I guess I was just trying to find

[11:42] out if the trail is obviously it follows

[11:45] 7-Eleven to 522, but there's also that line that goes down the trail as

[11:50] well.

[11:51] >> Um yes, that's more of the scenic byway.

[11:54] Okay. Uh, and I have to say that was not

[11:57] necessarily on the comp plan, but there

[11:59] were um again that we followed some of

[12:03] that scenic byway in that corridor. You

[12:06] can't see it as well, but as it goes

[12:08] that center line right right in here, um

[12:13] that's headed toward the the prison farm

[12:14] and there's natural surface trail in the um the uh trail plan that points

[12:21] along the river there. And I kind of

[12:24] fudged a little bit in the very eastern

[12:26] heading towards Watkins because the line

[12:28] doesn't extend past 288, but at one

[12:30] point we were trying to convince

[12:32] Chesterfield to stay along the river

[12:34] from their Robius Landing Park and then

[12:36] head to Watkins. So something that's

[12:38] more rivercentric, but yes, that one

[12:41] outcropping there is is sort of

[12:43] following Gotcha. I don't remember that.

[12:45] >> Old River Trail.

[12:46] >> Okay. Fantastic.

[12:47] >> Conveniently named.

[12:48] >> That's probably why I got confused.

[12:50] So when you say trail, are these just

[12:52] natural? So is this like the Blue Ridge

[12:55] um mountain trail?

[12:56] >> The the the goal would be to have it be

[12:59] separated from the road, have it be, you

[13:01] know, 12t wide paved. Could be that, you

[13:05] know, like if you've ever been to um uh

[13:09] Hybrbridge Trail Safe Park, that's, you

[13:10] know, crushed limestone uh surface. Um

[13:14] anything like that that is uh but safe.

[13:17] It's it's pulled away. that's somewhat

[13:20] uh that's a sustainable trail. For

[13:22] example, you you're not going to have a

[13:23] lot of rudded um rained out sections,

[13:26] but the again the goal would be to have

[13:28] it be separated from the roadway. Is

[13:31] that is that answering?

[13:34] >> Yeah, I mean I'm I'm just you're talking

[13:36] about horses and bikes and stuff like

[13:38] that. I mean, are all they going to be

[13:40] all of it multi-use or the horse trail

[13:42] ends here and then the bike trail starts

[13:44] there and then you know,

[13:46] >> some of them

[13:47] >> is it a walking trail? You know, you got

[13:48] the Blue Ridge Parkway, you got the

[13:50] trail that runs all the way from Lake

[13:51] Maine all the way down. Is it similar to

[13:53] >> Oh, I see what you're asking. Yeah. I

[13:55] mean, there's East Coast Greenway will

[13:57] follow a fall line. That's a trail. It's

[14:00] just a series of other trails. Um, not

[14:03] really a consistent surface. Uh, yeah, I

[14:05] would say the goal would be to have it,

[14:07] you know, 12t wide, something that is

[14:10] not a road

[14:13] >> and like a Blue Ridge Parkway. I mean,

[14:15] that's obviously a huge roadway, but um

[14:20] the the idea though is is its own

[14:23] standalone thing. Robius Road that we've

[14:25] had there, Chesterfield, you you may

[14:28] have seen that there are existing bike

[14:29] lanes along that. It's 45 mph road,

[14:32] >> trail.

[14:34] Yes, that's more natural surface as in

[14:36] you're just on rocks. You're on whatever

[14:38] the surface is through. And I was going

[14:40] to say with Roius Road, they're planning

[14:42] to have a shared use path. uh to the

[14:45] side and you know move on from having

[14:49] that really busy traffic uh I'm sorry

[14:52] the bike lanes right next to that busy

[14:53] traffic. Um

[14:55] >> I you said part of this would be on 71

[15:00] >> in theory. Yes. Um and working with

[15:04] Ligan Web, you know, that's a very busy

[15:06] corridor as you all know. I mean

[15:08] >> it's also no shoulder,

[15:09] >> right? Well, that's we wouldn't want it

[15:12] to be on the shoulder. It would be if we

[15:14] could if the if if your your locality

[15:17] chose to go forward with something like

[15:19] that, how do we separate? How how would

[15:21] there be some separation or

[15:24] >> how's it mean just to to help provide a

[15:27] little is it something that we just

[15:30] >> try to get easements or something along

[15:32] [clears throat] the trail or how does

[15:33] that work for

[15:35] >> Well, I I would say using the the

[15:37] capital trail as an example like route

[15:39] five is the the main spine through

[15:42] there.

[15:43] >> That's a scenic byway as well. B do

[15:45] administered that project because

[15:47] essentially the Capitol Trail acts like

[15:48] a um an

[15:53] you know a complimentary route to that.

[15:55] Again it's sometimes pretty close to

[15:58] following that the contours of that. Um

[16:02] sometimes it it very it pulls away

[16:04] because the opportunity to go through a

[16:05] certain property um was was easier. Um

[16:09] there are a few sections in Charles City

[16:11] County where it's right up next to the

[16:12] road, which isn't ideal, but it's not

[16:15] miles and miles of that. Um but yes, it

[16:18] would be one of those VOTE had to with each of those property owners

[16:22] negotiate, you know, right away. Um it's

[16:25] about 11 miles we're trying to cover

[16:27] with 7-Eleven and it may not all be

[16:31] convenient to have it, and I know

[16:32] there's a lot of historic properties on

[16:34] there. It would be it it'd be a heavy

[16:35] lift to have it right along that one

[16:37] corridor. Um that's why we do have some

[16:41] highlighted options for things that were

[16:43] identified in the p the u the the county

[16:46] trail plan that are pulled away. Um the

[16:49] ones that are closer to the river were

[16:50] marked as uh natural surface trail. So

[16:54] you know if that's how we have to settle

[16:57] if and again this is if you wanted to

[16:59] proceed with something like this. This

[17:01] is you know my grandkids might enjoy

[17:03] this trail kind of thing. [laughter]

[17:06] >> I don't have grandkids.

[17:07] >> Go ahead.

[17:08] Going back to the one mile that you

[17:10] mentioned that is a POW tan that you are

[17:12] planning for. Could you bring that show

[17:13] me where that one mile is again please?

[17:16] >> Your backyard.

[17:18] >> My backyard.

[17:18] >> Yeah.

[17:19] >> Great. So uh yes this ATV is up and

[17:23] down.

[17:24] >> This is 288 and then the the interchange

[17:26] with Gigi Trail and and 288 here and um

[17:30] the the county line there. This is I

[17:32] guess the Winterfield area. So, you

[17:35] know, th those are bike lanes that are

[17:37] on the side of the road and it it

[17:40] continues all the way uh on Robius. This

[17:43] is uh Polo Parkway and like, you know,

[17:46] shops at um Bgrade area in Chesterfield.

[17:49] So, it's a pretty long distance. I I've

[17:52] biked that plenty of times, but it's not

[17:54] something I would take an 8-year-old on.

[17:55] What we're trying to to do is make it to

[17:57] where somebody who's new to cycling

[17:58] would be would feel comfortable or you

[18:01] know obviously if you got a young kid

[18:02] that you're with, you wouldn't want

[18:05] [clears throat] tractor trailers or

[18:06] whatever right next to them. Megan that

[18:09] one mile, how does it template over the

[18:11] approved trails plan that we parks and

[18:14] register does it?

[18:17] >> I have to go back and look.

[18:18] >> Okay.

[18:21] to him.

[18:24] Um, that was about the the gist of

[18:26] everything. I was going to say I don't

[18:27] think I have Yeah, that was it. Um, I I

[18:31] could answer plenty of questions as best

[18:34] I can. I was going to say again, I'm

[18:36] glad you're in the room. We talked a

[18:37] little bit at our meeting about, you

[18:39] know, your actual trails plan and and

[18:41] how can we help uh move that along? uh

[18:44] you know find find those um

[18:48] highest priority projects as you've

[18:50] identified and and you know let's find

[18:52] some funding for to to move some of

[18:54] those along. Um, but in particular with

[18:56] the Three Notch Trail, um, a lot of what

[18:59] we we just to sum it up, a lot of what

[19:01] we talked about was, um, access to the

[19:05] river, being closest to those

[19:07] recreational sources, uh, trying to

[19:09] connect some of the existing historical

[19:11] sites and and, um, what was it? Fine

[19:14] Creek.

[19:15] >> Oh, Pine Creek.

[19:16] >> Yeah. Some of those cooler uh, sites

[19:19] that are that people would want to get

[19:21] to

[19:21] >> destinations.

[19:22] >> Yeah, destinations. Exactly. along those

[19:24] corridors. So, um anyway,

[19:28] yeah. Yeah. Obviously,

[19:30] I like I like the path. Obviously, it's

[19:32] going to go through three of the

[19:33] supervisors districts,

[19:35] >> right?

[19:35] >> Um

[19:37] >> I've run firing mask calls up that

[19:40] corridor for 26 years.

[19:42] >> Y

[19:42] >> So, I I I know it very very well. Um I

[19:45] know the hazards of it. Uh, but I also

[19:48] love the idea of bringing

[19:51] um and and providing something like that

[19:54] and what it could do to that area. Um,

[19:56] can you answer a question about funding?

[19:59] How's this typically done? Is it through

[20:00] grants? Is it through CVTA funding,

[20:02] funneling money to them or or what?

[20:05] >> With Fall Line, like I said, we're

[20:06] working on we're still working on

[20:09] funding that fully, but um Fall Line is

[20:11] a 43 mile trail. Um they just completed

[20:15] last last fall the first section um

[20:18] that's basically 5 milesi from just

[20:22] north and Reicho up to Ashland. That was

[20:25] mostly with CBTA money. Um CBTA

[20:29] committed 108 million I think it was in

[20:31] the first goound. The original estimate

[20:35] was about 300 million to cost. Now it's

[20:37] closer to 450 million because when we

[20:40] started planners are laughing that's

[20:43] what happens but anyway CBTA was one way

[20:48] um there have been other contributions

[20:50] uh state level committed some money um

[20:55] because there's seven different

[20:56] localities those seven localities are

[20:58] trying to fill in some of the gaps

[21:00] [snorts] right now we're working on

[21:01] Petersburg up to Chester that's being

[21:04] like they're they're groundbreaking next

[21:06] month And most of the funding is in

[21:08] place for that as well. But the gap the donnut hole essentially from that

[21:13] Chesterfield section up to Henriiko I

[21:17] should say Henriiko's funded and almost

[21:19] all of theirs is there's multiple

[21:22] funding buckets. So again to answer your

[21:24] question it's not one funding bucket.

[21:26] It's the solution.

[21:29] Isn't it kind of hard to define where

[21:30] the trails are going to be if you

[21:32] haven't gotten these ones yet?

[21:35] >> With fall line, um Richmond's still

[21:38] working on some of their final lines. Um

[21:42] Chesterfield had some identified in

[21:44] their plans. Um and they basically

[21:46] followed a lot of that corridor. Some of

[21:48] it had to shift due to a solar farm

[21:51] being built in the center of one

[21:53] section. uh a shooting range I think was

[21:55] near uh they're they were using an old

[21:58] rail line but those are opportunities

[22:01] that they had already identified. Uh I

[22:03] think in what we're talking about here

[22:05] is sort of a blank slate. We have that

[22:07] corridor we don't necessarily have you

[22:10] know lined up a series of property

[22:13] owners that were already teed up for it.

[22:16] Capital trail I think was u a lot more

[22:19] of that you know property by property.

[22:22] Um it is one of those when they did have

[22:24] the funding in place and started

[22:25] building it. It wasn't a march from you

[22:28] know Jamestown to to Richmond to do the

[22:31] trail. It was pieces and parts in and as

[22:34] they were going everybody's like why is

[22:35] this a gap? Why I have not you have why

[22:38] haven't you finished my part? You know

[22:40] point being though that momentum that

[22:42] helps build that momentum toward having

[22:44] more funding but it may not always help

[22:48] if the property owners don't want it.

[22:49] And I know 7-Eleven has a lot of

[22:51] historic again a lot of historic

[22:53] properties and it might be difficult.

[22:55] Um, so yeah, that's our perspective that

[22:58] would be awful difficult to fund because

[23:02] you you can say you want to go this way

[23:04] and then all of a sudden you got

[23:05] property owners. Well, now it's got to

[23:06] go this way. So we dedicate x amount of

[23:10] dollars, but now the trails got to be

[23:11] longer because it's got to go around

[23:13] people that weren't giving willing to

[23:15] give an easement. So, it's really hard

[23:17] for the county to budget something like

[23:19] that, right, when we don't know point A

[23:22] to point B and what that's going to look

[23:24] like.

[23:25] >> It it it is um each of them ends up

[23:28] being a different u approach, different

[23:31] um solution uh to those those obstacles.

[23:35] They're working right now uh an

[23:37] extension of the Capitol Trail and it

[23:39] basically matches what you're talking

[23:40] about from Jamestown towards Newport

[23:43] News. a lot. It's a tight corridor. A

[23:46] lot of different waterways that affect

[23:47] that. And yes, it the the distance has

[23:51] changed a few times. The the course

[23:54] they're trying to get get to has

[23:56] changed, but I would think that if if it

[23:59] is something that the county was

[24:00] interested in that you would have at

[24:03] least some preliminary work, we talked a

[24:05] little bit about like how how would you

[24:07] execute a trails plan? you may need some

[24:10] extra help. Some some uh more than just

[24:14] one person trying to tackle that. Um and

[24:16] in in that case, uh if you like say had

[24:19] a trails manager position that could

[24:21] help, you know, knock on those doors. My

[24:24] family's from Martinsville. When they've

[24:26] uh tried to put together some of the

[24:28] trails there, they they had a foundation

[24:30] that was doing some of the door

[24:31] knocking. But yeah, it's each one of

[24:34] them has a different approach and a

[24:36] different solution. I thought good job

[24:37] for our deputy county administrator.

[24:40] [laughter]

[24:44] » Well, I uh I noticed John leaned over

[24:47] and whispered in Megan's ear. Uh the

[24:49] foundation is something that Parks and

[24:51] Wreck has been working on and thinking

[24:53] about for some time, recognizing that

[24:55] there's uh there's multiple ways to skin

[24:57] the cat, you know, and and as not only a

[25:00] fundraising arm, but a force force

[25:02] multiplier. And uh yeah, I think that

[25:04] that's a a great example of how that

[25:06] group could be leveraged.

[25:09] >> We talked the other day about you all

[25:11] have agreements with your farmers market

[25:13] with groups and having some co-managing

[25:15] maybe something to that to to that

[25:16] effect a solution where hey we have a

[25:18] co-trail issue or not issue but

[25:21] opportunity you know with

[25:24] some sort of shared effort. I don't

[25:26] know. We we were throwing some

[25:28] [clears throat] fun ideas out and all of

[25:30] them sound really fun until you start

[25:32] getting down to how much would this cost

[25:33] and how would this work? So, it's all

[25:36] fun games.

[25:38] [laughter]

[25:39] >> Whoa.

[25:40] >> Well, I think the question for me is

[25:42] like who's going to be making the ask to

[25:45] the property owners?

[25:48] We can commit to it all day long, but we

[25:50] can't we can't can't necessarily force

[25:52] property owners to

[25:54] >> Yeah, absolutely. I will say with the

[25:58] with fall line, they had two design

[26:01] build sections. That first one that's

[26:02] completed and the one in the south and

[26:05] VOTE got to be the bad guy uh for a lot

[26:08] of that. Um basically the you know

[26:11] research being done on

[26:14] here's the general corridor and then you

[26:17] know assessing which properties may be

[26:19] effective which side of the road may be

[26:21] preferred because you don't want to

[26:22] switch back and forth side sides of the

[26:25] road especially on a busy corridor like

[26:26] 7-Eleven. But the idea again uh of uh

[26:30] who's going to handle you know talking

[26:32] to the public working with so a lot of

[26:34] the fall line ended up being you know V

[26:37] dot going through that public process

[26:40] like I said with this we're just doing

[26:42] the study trying to get together like is

[26:46] do are people interested in this and you

[26:49] know do we pursue it and if we do what

[26:51] are the potential corridors but um in

[26:54] the end yeah if you if you did want to

[26:56] see it through there would be another

[26:59] level of study. The fall line had an

[27:01] Ashlin to Petersburg trail study and

[27:04] that was funded through the governor's

[27:06] office uh the office of interotal

[27:08] planning um you know handled that it was

[27:11] about year plus study. So that's the

[27:14] more serious version of we really are

[27:16] going to do some of the environmental

[27:17] work in you know trying to figure out

[27:20] traffic volume along roads. Like I said,

[27:23] I have collected some data. Obviously,

[27:25] [snorts] 7-Eleven is that collector as

[27:27] you head especially east toward um 288

[27:31] and still people that head 522, you

[27:34] know. So, all those suburban

[27:35] neighborhoods uh or really exurban

[27:38] neighborhoods feed towards that corridor

[27:40] and obviously 60 as well. You know,

[27:42] that's your two major east west.

[27:45] But yeah, VOTE would have to be heavily

[27:47] involved in something to that effect.

[27:51] And that's not free, but that's, you

[27:53] know, that's governor's office had

[27:56] funded, for example, the fall line and

[27:57] the capital trail.

[28:00] Mr. Chairman, I want to make sure I'm

[28:03] not

[28:05] pushing you along a path that you're not

[28:07] prepared to walk. Um, no pun intended. I I appreciate the fact that you are now

[28:14] familiar with our plan.

[28:16] >> Absolutely.

[28:18] >> Previously, I I assume you weren't. So

[28:20] the fact that you're aware of it and can

[28:22] help facilitate give advice and mostly I

[28:26] hope help with funding source if you

[28:28] have some guidance there. So at least

[28:31] it's good that plan RBA is aware of that

[28:33] plan. I assume that you weren't

[28:36] previously.

[28:38] >> Um I was um and we have that

[28:41] incorporated in our region.

[28:43] >> But does that mean it's [snorts]

[28:46] anywhere past being a plan? No. So, but

[28:49] if you if you and we were talking a

[28:52] little bit about this the other day, you

[28:53] know, you start using the CBTA money or

[28:57] some other uh we we've talked about some

[28:59] different um potential uh funding

[29:02] sources to apply, you know, grants and

[29:04] so on. any of those, you know, knocking

[29:07] out a mile or, you know, connecting from

[29:09] Fighting Creek up to the schools and and

[29:11] beyond, any [clears throat] of those,

[29:13] you know, little incremental updates or

[29:16] trails, too, you know. Oh,

[29:17] >> yeah.

[29:18] >> But it certainly has been risen to the

[29:21] top of any surveys that we've done in

[29:23] terms of the citizens really valuing uh

[29:25] the trails and looking for expansion of

[29:27] them.

[29:28] >> It's a very thorough plan. I really you

[29:30] know I did refamiliarize myself with it

[29:34] uh since um we we started this process

[29:37] but yeah the it's very thorough and you

[29:40] know identify as very I mean from my

[29:42] perspective not living here you know

[29:44] very workable corridors and necessary

[29:47] things like connecting schools

[29:48] connecting through your community

[29:50] finishing sidewalk networks within the

[29:52] courthouse area that you know you've

[29:55] been asking for I don't know several

[29:57] years as far as I know about how to

[29:59] connect birth to the middle school.

[30:05] » We have one person who constantly is.

[30:08] >> Oh, he's not just a Pan guy.

[30:11] >> Oh, really?

[30:11] >> Carl.

[30:13] >> He's famous.

[30:14] >> He [laughter] infinitisly is.

[30:16] >> Yeah. But it, you know,

[30:18] >> sometimes it works.

[30:19] >> We have people within the region. We

[30:22] have people within these the

[30:23] communities. But yeah, it's it's

[30:24] wonderful to have people who are

[30:26] interested and you know I feel like you

[30:28] know he's he's not ineffective.

[30:31] >> Oh, he's a knowledgeable guy.

[30:32] >> Yeah, absolutely.

[30:35] >> What other questions we got?

[30:37] I'm still stuck on 7-Eleven because I

[30:39] don't see how it happens just because

[30:42] there's a road and then there's a ditch

[30:44] and the ditch pretty much runs

[30:48] away because the properties on either

[30:51] side use that ditch to drain off their

[30:54] properties.

[30:56] >> It's it's very similar to Capitol Trail

[30:57] in that situation.

[30:58] >> That's how I vision it going from going

[31:00] up Route Five from from Williamsburg or

[31:02] Jamestown all the way up to um downtown

[31:05] Richmond. So you would be asking

[31:06] >> it's off the road. It's not right on the

[31:08] road.

[31:08] >> Yeah. So you'd be asking someone like

[31:10] Norwood and um with the Sleti Place and

[31:16] Brooker to really take a sizable chunk

[31:19] of land off what 15 ft or more

[31:25] on top of on top of what he got. the

[31:28] conservancy that no one is in. I I don't know that

[31:34] permission is the issue. I'm not sure it

[31:36] can be done that. And I will say it's

[31:39] part of why we consulted with Capital

[31:41] Region Land Conservancy because there

[31:43] are many properties in several

[31:45] localities. We aren't sure if their

[31:48] easements I'm sorry, an easement would

[31:50] be possible.

[31:51] >> Yeah.

[31:53] And so if it's going to trek over

[31:56] 7-Eleven, then you have to build a

[31:57] bridge.

[32:00] >> Uh well, again,

[32:04] >> with

[32:05] >> Capital Trail, there are some crossings,

[32:08] >> right?

[32:08] >> You want it to be in a in a in an area

[32:10] that has, you know, no hills

[32:13] approaching. You want the best sight

[32:14] lines you can, you know, uh you know, no

[32:17] big curves before them. Um, but yeah,

[32:19] that's that's obviously very important

[32:21] issue. There's a power line that runs on

[32:24] certain corridors of of uh 7-Eleven,

[32:27] just a local power line. But again, like

[32:30] some of those are opportunities, but

[32:32] then you you see like, okay, that also

[32:34] continues across seven people's

[32:35] driveways and their driveways all have,

[32:38] you know, the cutout for the driveway

[32:40] and their their houses are right up to

[32:42] the road. So, it's very hard to

[32:43] envision. You could go in the front. I

[32:45] don't know what there might be to go

[32:47] behind some of those houses, but that's

[32:49] part of the the course you might see

[32:51] with Capitol Trail is going behind some

[32:55] properties if that is an issue. But that

[32:58] was a 52 mile trail. We're talking about

[33:00] 11 with or is um at least to 522. I

[33:06] don't remember how far up to 522. I'm

[33:08] sorry to the river it is from there. But

[33:11] uh but anyway, yeah, it's it's not

[33:13] without uh difficulties.

[33:16] >> I think it's nine miles from 68 to the

[33:19] road.

[33:26] » Any other questions?

[33:29] >> Any questions for us?

[33:31] >> You know, I've been mostly asking all

[33:33] the questions through Megan and now that

[33:35] there's a foundation, I think, you know,

[33:36] we got to start. But um it's it's

[33:39] wonderful that you already have a plan.

[33:41] Like I said, we that's what we use to

[33:43] identify these corridors. So yeah, I

[33:45] mean that was I'm glad you guys are

[33:46] really enthusiastic about the actual

[33:49] trail plan. And you know, again,

[33:51] anything I can do, we can do to help,

[33:53] you know, start that process of getting

[33:55] some of those. We always talk about we

[33:57] don't want to make plans that sit on a

[33:58] shelf and never do anything with them.

[34:01] So, that's the same thing with your

[34:02] trails plan is even if it's all right,

[34:04] we got something, you know, started uh

[34:07] and or you know, the uh the priority

[34:11] list included a couple that were, you

[34:12] know, connecting the schools. I mean,

[34:14] that's that's safety right there. Trying

[34:16] to get the kids, you know, to and from

[34:18] safely. So, I I don't really have any

[34:20] other questions, but I know who to

[34:21] contact if I have any more.

[34:23] >> Do I have one question?

[34:24] >> Yes, sir.

[34:25] >> Ride motorcycles on.

[34:28] >> Not supposed to. [laughter]

[34:29] Um, it's a joke. I was going to say

[34:32] though the horse question, um, I didn't

[34:34] quite answer that thoroughly. Like in

[34:36] like say Northern Virginia on the WO

[34:38] trail, that one has some sections that

[34:41] are so busy that they have multiple side

[34:44] by side pieces so that the horses can

[34:46] have their own space and not be spooked

[34:48] by, you know,

[34:50] >> pedestrians and cyclists. And um that

[34:53] example of the Cros trail out out there

[34:56] is like, "Hey, you know, you're going to

[34:57] be talking to the horse farm folks. How

[34:59] do you get through to them? You know,

[35:01] come in there right away with the idea

[35:03] that you're providing a longer trail for

[35:05] the horses as well." So, it's a tall

[35:08] ask, you know, because a lot of those

[35:10] are multi-million dollar farms and I'm

[35:13] sure there's several in Pitan as well,

[35:16] but yeah, it's a tall ask uh for some of

[35:18] those properties.

[35:19] >> Sure.

[35:20] >> Yeah. I'm John Kirkland. I'm the vice

[35:22] chair for the foundation and we've

[35:25] really gotten the ball rolling with that

[35:27] foundation. I've already been out

[35:28] speaking, speaker. Um I truly believe we

[35:31] will be able to help with some of this

[35:32] funding and looking forward to working

[35:35] with uh we've got a good group. We've

[35:38] got a good board. We're enthusiastic.

[35:40] We'll have our website up hopefully by

[35:42] October 1st. convey that to everybody so

[35:45] they can go in there and actually see

[35:46] what we're about, what we're doing, what

[35:48] we're into and where we're trying to

[35:50] help out in different localities. And I

[35:52] think it'd be great for the county once

[35:54] we get that up and running. But we are

[35:57] live.

[35:59] >> So if you want to give me some money,

[36:00] I'll take it. [laughter]

[36:04] » Can I uh can I mention I I think that

[36:06] this is a space that we're doing good planning, but we're

[36:10] doing good work as well. Um it was just

[36:12] in 2028 that the county reconstituted

[36:15] the parks and rec advisory commission

[36:18] and they had the foresight in 2019 to

[36:20] initiate a parks and recreation needs

[36:22] assessment which was finalized in 2020

[36:25] and they did a statistically valid

[36:27] survey of the uh the county at large

[36:29] that identified multi-purpose trails as

[36:32] the number one requested amenity. Um and

[36:36] uh we we used that information to apply

[36:39] for a fiscal year 22 community project

[36:42] funds grant which we are awarded for the

[36:44] education connection trail. Uh we

[36:46] applied again in fiscal year 2 uh three

[36:49] for the ADA trail. Um that's that will

[36:52] go behind the library. Um and part of

[36:54] what we've learned is you have to be

[36:55] careful what you wish for when you get

[36:57] awarded federal grant money. Uh we've

[37:00] been working on that since 20 fiscal

[37:03] year 22. you know, meeting all of the

[37:05] requirements of federal money. Um, we're

[37:07] to the point that we're planning a

[37:09] ribbon cutting in the next two months.

[37:10] So, uh, near near the finish line on

[37:12] that one, and the ADA trail will be

[37:14] right behind it. But I think it's an

[37:16] area that we're punching above our way

[37:18] and and parks rec of work to advance the

[37:22] goal of where you multi- trailing count

[37:25] as well.

[37:27] >> Good stuff. That's awesome. Love that.

[37:32] » Um,

[37:34] data on the economic at uh the capital

[37:37] trail.

[37:39] >> That that is a fantastic question and I

[37:41] have to say with fall on that was the

[37:43] same question. We did not do there is an

[37:46] e economic impact study for the capital

[37:49] trail. It's from 2018. So um it's pretty

[37:53] far behind. The nump the dollar figures

[37:55] are are way behind and obviously the

[37:58] trail was very new at that time. Um but

[38:01] we've been using that as a very low

[38:03] baseline for the impact. Um it's

[38:07] obviously something that be a tourism

[38:09] impact but because that's already

[38:12] busy corridor scenic uh byway Virginia

[38:16] scenic byway. Um but that's that's what

[38:19] we have

[38:20] >> counters.

[38:22] There are trail counters though um not

[38:25] all the original 11 are in operation but

[38:28] yeah that's on the B do website and I I

[38:30] can provide links to to those um you

[38:34] know so you get a good sense of how many

[38:37] people are using not just that trail but

[38:39] you know around the state. Um but yeah,

[38:42] it's some of those are

[38:45] um it's it's how you perceive the you

[38:48] know how many people pass through

[38:49] certain areas. Um that doesn't

[38:51] necessarily mean that somebody stay much

[38:54] stay in a hotel or anything like that.

[38:56] Uh but yeah, the economic impact study

[38:58] like I said they Capital Trail

[39:00] Foundation is is working to update that.

[39:03] Who knows if that's next couple of

[39:04] years, but um fall line that was a big

[39:07] request like Ann County was that was a

[39:09] big request for them as well. Like if we

[39:12] approve this,

[39:14] how do we know this is going to provide

[39:16] any benefit to us? Um and in handover's

[39:19] case, they were the first ones their section was the first completed.

[39:23] Actually as Ashlin was first, but they kind of count us out. Excellent.

[39:28] Perfect.

[39:31] No other questions from the board.

[39:33] >> I can't identify it.

[39:36] >> Thank you so much.

[39:37] >> Thank you.

[39:52] » Right by my house.

[39:53] >> Yeah, I do.

[39:56] >> Good evening. I'd like to call to order

[39:58] the August 24th, 2026 regular monthly

[40:00] meetings. Thank you all for coming out.

[40:03] I'd like to ask Mr. McClung if you

[40:05] wouldn't mind starting us off with the

[40:06] pledge of allegiance followed by Mr.

[40:08] Kenny handling the imitation, please.

[40:12] I

[40:12] >> pledge allegiance to the flag of the

[40:15] United States of America and to

[40:17] [clears throat] the republic for it

[40:19] stands, one nation under God,

[40:22] indivisible with liberty and justice for

[40:25] all.

[40:27] Lord Jesus, we thank you so much for

[40:28] allowing us to gather here tonight.

[40:31] We thank you for your words that one of

[40:34] your greatest commands is to

[40:38] I just pray for peace tonight.

[40:41] I just pray that you're here in a mighty

[40:43] way. Father, in Jesus name we pray.

[40:45] >> Amen. Amen.

[40:50] » Thank you. Do I have any requests to

[40:52] postpone agenda items, make any

[40:54] additions, deletions, or changes in the

[40:56] order of presentation?

[40:59] Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion to

[41:01] approve.

[41:02] >> Oh, second.

[41:04] >> All in favor?

[41:05] >> I.

[41:05] >> Any opposed? Hearing none, that'll bring

[41:08] us to board updates.

[41:11] Any uh board updates?

[41:14] I'll go over one. I went to the uh uh

[41:17] general government steering committee.

[41:19] uh that kind of goes over different uh

[41:21] legislation, different um positions that

[41:23] Veo takes on different legislation. And

[41:26] we reviewed several priorities

[41:29] uh two of which thank you uh two of

[41:32] which uh focus on opposing any

[41:36] legislation that removes local authority

[41:39] and the second priority would be uh uh

[41:41] opposing anything um that I guess

[41:45] imposes unfunded mandates on localities.

[41:47] So, those were the two priorities that

[41:50] uh Veo's uh taking strong position on uh

[41:54] moving forward for uh legislation for

[41:56] the general assembly. Any other board

[41:57] updates before we move on?

[41:59] >> Mr. Cherry, I got one.

[41:59] >> Go ahead.

[42:00] >> Uh as y'all know, I live on Pierersburg

[42:02] Road. It's going to be shut down for a

[42:03] while. So, probably a month or two and

[42:06] I've been dealing with VOTE on getting

[42:08] some enhancements [clears throat] to the

[42:09] Stave Mill Dorset intersection. So, we

[42:12] got a a couple signs new signs up. I'm

[42:14] working on getting a flashlight put in

[42:15] there now to help things out. So, That's

[42:17] all I got.

[42:18] >> Thank you.

[42:20] >> That'll move us to the county

[42:22] administrator updates.

[42:23] >> Yeah, thank you. We've uh got some

[42:25] infographics coming up on the screen. Uh

[42:28] but want to make you aware that this

[42:29] Friday is the final movie in the village

[42:32] um movies in the park series for the

[42:34] summer. Uh Parks and Recreation puts on

[42:36] this series through a grant that they

[42:38] were awarded through the Virginia

[42:39] Foundation for Healthy Youth. This

[42:41] Friday's movie is Lilo and Stitch and it

[42:44] begins at dusk at Turner Park. Um, next

[42:48] this Saturday is Guchin Palatan

[42:50] Community Services Board's Hopefest.

[42:53] This is a community event that focuses

[42:55] on substance use and recovery. The event

[42:58] will be held at the CSB's Gland location

[43:00] and it is free and open to the public.

[43:03] Um, next is First Friday's event returns

[43:07] to the village park next Friday,

[43:09] September 4th from 6:00 to 8th. This is

[43:11] a free outdoor concert with vendors on

[43:14] site and the Riverside band will be our

[43:17] musical guest um next Friday evening. Um

[43:21] next, our mobile outreach team is

[43:24] hosting the premiere of Stories of Hope

[43:27] on Tuesday, September 8th from 5 to 7:30

[43:30] here in the Village Building Auditorium.

[43:32] Uh there's a cookout that starts at 5:00

[43:35] pm and that will be followed by the

[43:37] premiere of local storytelling videos

[43:39] that start at 6 pm and this is a

[43:42] campaign that was created to raise

[43:44] awareness and reduce stigma around

[43:46] substance use. Um this is a free event

[43:49] and it's open to the public. So we'll

[43:50] hope to see you there. Um, next, Park

[43:53] and Recreation is offering free yoga in

[43:56] Village Park on Monday mornings

[43:58] throughout the month of September with

[44:00] the exception of Labor Day, which is

[44:02] September 7th. But otherwise, uh, come

[44:05] out and participate in free yoga on

[44:07] Mondays in Village Park. And then the

[44:10] last update we have this evening is the

[44:12] Never Forget Run is scheduled for

[44:14] Friday, September 11th at Powatan High

[44:16] School. Uh, as you know, the 911 attack

[44:19] took the lives of nearly 3,000

[44:21] individuals, 343 of whom were first

[44:24] responders. Um, so the run involves 343

[44:28] laps around the high school track, one

[44:30] lap in honor of each first responder who

[44:33] died on 911. Uh, so we hope you'll be

[44:35] able to join us on uh, Friday, September

[44:38] 11th for this event. Thank you.

[44:41] >> Thank you. All right, that'll bring us

[44:43] to our public comment period. Um, what

[44:46] we'll do now is we'll move into that.

[44:47] And I will tell you, we've got uh three

[44:49] public hearings. So, if you're here for

[44:51] any of the three hearings and you've

[44:53] signed up for the public comment as I

[44:54] call your name, just let me know and

[44:56] we'll we'll move to the next name. Um,

[44:58] so the [clears throat] board will now

[45:00] hear from citizens who wish to speak to

[45:02] the board. Speakers will be recognized

[45:04] in the order in which they signed up.

[45:06] When your name is called, please come to

[45:07] the podium and begin by stating your

[45:09] name and address or voting district.

[45:12] Each speaker will have three minutes as

[45:14] an individual or five minutes for a

[45:16] group as long as you have uh at least

[45:18] three folks here from your group. Uh

[45:20] please direct all comments to the board

[45:22] as a whole and not individual members uh

[45:26] or the audience or staff or any other

[45:29] attendee. Refrain from criticizing

[45:31] specific individuals or groups or using

[45:34] vulgar, rude or threatening language. We

[45:36] will begin now with Matt Fischer.

[45:44] Good evening, chair, chairman, and

[45:47] members of the board. My name is Matt

[45:49] Fischer, 945 River States Court, and I

[45:52] live in district 2 in Palatan County.

[45:54] Thank you for the opportunity to speak

[45:56] tonight. I'm here to respectfully ask

[45:58] the board to remove Motorsports Park as

[46:01] a conditional use in the Agricultural 10

[46:03] zoning district.

[46:05] I believe this change is important

[46:07] because the A10 district is intended to

[46:09] protect agricultural land, rural

[46:11] character, open space, and low inensity

[46:14] uses. A motorsports park is not low

[46:17] inensity agricultural use. It is high

[46:20] impact commercial recreational use, and

[46:22] it brings concerns that are

[46:24] [clears throat] very different from

[46:25] normal farming, forestry, or rural

[46:27] residential activity. POW Powatan's

[46:30] adoptive planning priorities speak

[46:32] clearly about financial stability,

[46:34] public safety, quality of life, and

[46:36] economic development that fits the

[46:38] character of the county. Allowing a

[46:40] motorsports park in A10 areas works

[46:43] against those goals. These facilities

[46:45] can create repeated noise, dust,

[46:47] traffic, vibration, environmental

[46:50] concerns, and emergency service needs in

[46:52] locations that were not planned or built

[46:53] for the level of that activity.

[46:56] There's also a physical concern.

[46:58] Motorsports Park may require sheriff's

[47:00] office response, fire and rescue

[47:02] planning, traffic control, road

[47:04] maintenance, inspections, code

[47:06] enforcement, complaint response, and

[47:08] ongoing monitoring. Those costs can fall

[47:11] on the county and its taxpayers. At the

[47:13] same time, Palatan does not receive an

[47:15] emission tax revenue tied directly to

[47:18] ticket sales. That means the public

[47:20] burden may not be matched by a clear

[47:22] proportional public benefit.

[47:25] Quality of life matters too. People who

[47:27] live in agriculture areas have made

[47:29] decisions based on rural zoning, rural

[47:32] roads, rural quiet, and the expectation

[47:35] that nearby land uses uses will remain

[47:38] compatible with that setting. Even if

[47:40] conditions are placed on a permit, the

[47:42] county still is left to enforce those

[47:44] conditions over time. That is not

[47:46] efficient government and it creates an

[47:49] avoidable an avoidable conflict between

[47:51] an intensive event style use and

[47:53] surrounding rural properties. I want to

[47:55] be clear that the request is not about

[47:57] opposing business or recreation in

[47:59] Palatan. It's about putting the right

[48:01] uses in the right places. If motorsports

[48:04] are ever considered an economic

[48:06] activity, they should be re reviewed in

[48:08] a district and location where road

[48:10] access, infrastructure, surrounding

[48:12] uses, emergency services, and

[48:14] environmental protections can reasonably

[48:16] support them.

[48:19] For those reasons, I've respectfully

[48:20] asked the board to amend the zoning

[48:22] ordinance and remove motorsports park as

[48:24] a conditional use in the A10 district.

[48:27] Doing so would protect Palatan's

[48:28] agriculture in rural areas, reduce

[48:31] avoidable public service burdens,

[48:33] support the county's long-term planning

[48:35] goals, and help ensure the future

[48:36] development remains compatible Powatan's

[48:39] character. Thank you for your time, your

[48:41] service, and your consideration.

[48:43] >> Thank you,

[48:46] >> Robert Kelly.

[48:56] Good evening, Robert Kelly, District 2.

[48:59] Good evening, Mr. Chairman and

[49:00] Supervisors. I'm rising to speak in

[49:04] regards to Throttle Therapy's proposed

[49:06] conditional use permit. Yes.

[49:08] >> I would ask that you hold your comments

[49:09] until the public hearing for that.

[49:11] >> Oh, okay.

[49:13] >> Thank you.

[49:15] >> Pete Cisty,

[49:17] >> same. Mr. Chair,

[49:18] >> same. Uh, Virginia Morgan.

[49:45] Hello, my name is Virginia Morgan and I

[49:47] live at 2649 Glen Ridge Terrace and

[49:51] Glenn Brook subdivision. I am speaking

[49:54] in support of an ordinance to prohibit

[49:56] the discharge of firearms and or

[49:58] pneumatic guns in residential

[50:00] neighborhoods in Powatan County. And the

[50:02] current strategic plan adopted by you,

[50:04] the board of supervisors, it states that

[50:06] the safety and well-being of our

[50:08] residents is paramount. The time is here

[50:11] for you to stand behind that priority

[50:12] and take action to ensure this takes

[50:14] place. From January through June of this

[50:17] year, law enforcement responded to 115

[50:20] calls about the discharging of guns in

[50:22] this county that included at least 18

[50:25] residential neighborhoods. This isn't

[50:27] just an isolated issue in Glenbrook. It

[50:30] is a countywide problem that the county

[50:32] data confirms. This is a safety issue.

[50:36] It is not about politics. It's not about

[50:38] changing the county's history or

[50:40] culture. And it's certainly not about

[50:41] infringing on the Second Amendment. I am

[50:44] a gun owner myself. This issue was about

[50:46] residents feeling safe on their own

[50:48] property.

[50:50] I have invited you all as well as others

[50:52] out to my home to see the setup

[50:54] firsthand. Some of you have taken me up

[50:56] on this and the consensus has been the

[50:58] same. This is not something that should

[51:01] be taking place in this environment.

[51:03] Deputies have told us not to go in our

[51:05] backyard and some have even refused to

[51:07] walk onto certain areas of our property

[51:09] because of the shooting. If this isn't

[51:11] the definition of unsafe, then I don't

[51:13] know what is. I want you to ask

[51:15] yourselves, is this somewhere you would

[51:17] want to live? What if you were not able

[51:20] to enjoy your backyard? What if you

[51:22] didn't feel safe on your own property?

[51:25] Would you be comfortable if your

[51:26] children or grandchildren played in our

[51:28] backyard? I'm sure the answer is no. If

[51:32] this was happening to you at your home,

[51:33] you would definitely want action taken

[51:35] to protect you and your family. Law

[51:38] enforcement wants help, but until an

[51:40] ordinance is written that they can

[51:41] enforce, there's nothing they can do.

[51:44] This is something that you can fix. You

[51:46] have the authority to take action. You

[51:49] have residents asking you for a basic

[51:51] safety measure to protect them. You also

[51:54] have a responsibility to ensure the

[51:56] safety and well-being of the residents

[51:58] of this county. This ordinance isn't

[52:00] meant to ban gun use everywhere in the

[52:03] county. It's about location. It's about

[52:06] protecting the safety and quality of

[52:08] life in residential neighborhoods where

[52:10] homes are closer together while lawful

[52:13] shooting continues elsewhere in the

[52:15] county.

[52:16] You have made commitments. You have said

[52:19] safety is your priority. Your strategic

[52:21] plan says so. Law enforcement has been

[52:24] clear about what they need. The only

[52:26] thing standing between the residents and

[52:28] their peace of mind is your followth

[52:30] through. So, I am asking you to please

[52:32] do the right thing and approve an

[52:34] ordinance to protect those of us that

[52:36] live in residential areas of the county

[52:38] so that we can feel safe and find peace

[52:40] in our homes and on our properties.

[52:43] Thank you.

[52:44] >> Thank you, Teresa Kelly.

[52:50] [clears throat]

[52:51] >> Mr. Chairman, members of the board, I'm

[52:53] Teresa Kelly and I live in District 2.

[52:56] Um, thank you for allowing me to speak.

[52:57] I am also here to respectfully ask the

[52:59] board to remove motorsports park as a

[53:02] conditional you conditional use permit

[53:04] from agriculture 10 zoning in the palan

[53:07] palatan county strategic plan strategic

[53:10] priority six rural heritage and resource

[53:13] preservation. This priority focuses on

[53:15] ensuring that as palatan grows it

[53:17] maintains those characteristics that

[53:20] make it a unique alternative to the more

[53:22] developed areas of the region. These

[53:24] features include active farms, managed

[53:27] and natural re resource, sorry, managed

[53:30] and natural forests, undisturbed lands,

[53:32] fields, waterways, and historic

[53:34] structures. The network of bike trails

[53:37] by definition is disrupting to a forest.

[53:40] It requires cutting underbrush and

[53:42] continuously clearing vegetation. Soil erosion and waterway

[53:46] pollution. dirt bike trails on rolled

[53:49] terrain caused severe soil compaction

[53:52] and accelerated uh erosion. Stripping

[53:55] the forest of floor vegetation, sorry.

[53:59] Stripping the floors for a vegetation

[54:01] cover means that when it rains, mud,

[54:03] sediment, and trace automotive fluids

[54:06] will wash directly into local creeks,

[54:08] rivers, and ponds. This directly

[54:11] violates the county's commitment to

[54:12] clean waterways. The purpose of A10 is

[54:16] to maintain agrarian and lowdensity

[54:18] rural character of the county that

[54:21] optimizes economic use of the county's

[54:23] prime farmland and forest land resources

[54:26] and defines countryside appearance and

[54:28] rural character of areas designated as

[54:31] rural preservation areas in the

[54:33] comprehensive plan. A commercial or

[54:35] highintensity recreational ride park is

[54:38] not a farming or forestry operation. It

[54:41] introduces an intense non-aggricultural

[54:44] commercial land use into a zone meant

[54:46] for quiet countryside living. Please

[54:49] understand, I am not against motorsports

[54:52] park or outdoor recreation. However, we

[54:56] must exercise due diligence to ensure

[54:58] commercial activities align with local

[55:00] zoning regulation. For these reasons and

[55:03] those already stated, I am respectfully

[55:06] asking the board to amend the zoning

[55:08] ordinance to remove motorsports park as

[55:10] a conditional use permit from

[55:12] agriculture 10 zoning. Thank you for

[55:14] your time and service to our county.

[55:16] >> Thank you,

[55:20] » Tommy Broaden.

[55:29] Mr. chairman and fellow board members.

[55:32] I'm Tommy Broton from 2452 Judes Ferry

[55:35] Road and I'm not uh here to speak about

[55:39] anything that you have direct control

[55:42] over, but I would ask you if you could

[55:45] please pass on to VOTE that the roads in

[55:49] this county, the grass has not been cut

[55:52] this year. I've lived in the county for

[55:54] 53 years. It's the first time the road

[55:57] has never been cut in front of my house

[55:59] and most everywhere else across the

[56:02] county. Uh, Route 60 has was partially

[56:06] cut, but today is the first day of

[56:08] school

[56:10] and

[56:11] that intersection at Judy and Route 60

[56:16] grass is three feet or more high and

[56:19] we've got new young drivers there. uh

[56:23] and they needed to be safe. So, uh as

[56:28] some of you know, I retired from the

[56:31] sheriff's office uh some 20 years ago

[56:33] now, but uh I've been one of the first

[56:36] responders that has had to go tell

[56:39] people that their child has been killed

[56:41] in accidents, and I hate to see any more

[56:45] have to do that. Uh, and I know of five

[56:49] or six fatalities at that intersection.

[56:53] So, I would just ask you to pass the

[56:55] word on to please do something with the

[56:58] roads. Thank you.

[56:59] >> Thank you,

[57:06] » Steve Barl.

[57:20] David Baron live third district. Uh had

[57:24] seen y'all for a while. I'm sure y'all

[57:25] miss me. Uh I got a couple things

[57:28] comment from the last meeting. [snorts]

[57:31] Uh I'm one of those old people. Be 65

[57:34] years old. I'm one of those people that

[57:36] supposedly

[57:37] don't want to pay my taxes, support the

[57:39] schools. My house, my property is

[57:42] bringing down the value of this county

[57:45] according to Barbara Brown. I'm sorry.

[57:49] That is it is just ludicrous.

[57:52] I didn't paid taxes in this county

[57:55] for over 30, 35 years, personal and

[57:58] business.

[58:00] I'll tell you as a personal insult. So

[58:02] the whole lot of other older people in

[58:03] this county. I'm old. I admit it, but to

[58:06] say something like that is embarrassing.

[58:09] Shows lack of knowledge as far as I'm

[58:11] concerned. Now, I'm going to get to some

[58:12] other issues. I haven't been here cuz I

[58:14] got a family member that's pretty well

[58:17] sick. I'm going to take care of her. We

[58:19] can't comment. Come to the meetings. The

[58:22] board before this let you call in, speak

[58:26] your mind. Now, if you don't want to

[58:27] take my tax money and my wife's tax

[58:29] money, I don't care if I can speak or

[58:32] not, but I have a right to speak just

[58:35] because I can't make it here and a whole

[58:36] lot of other older people don't like

[58:39] driving at night. It's getting harder as

[58:40] you get older. You'll find out.

[58:43] So, I'm just saying please go back and

[58:46] let people call in, voice their opinion,

[58:49] be heard. You're probably not going to

[58:51] listen anyway, but at least make us feel

[58:53] better. Now, if y'all don't want to do

[58:55] that, there thing called the American

[58:57] Disabilities Act and it's a group I

[59:00] can't stand. ACLU, I know they would

[59:02] love to dive into this because you're

[59:04] all supposedly a Republican party board

[59:06] by power county by your taxing and

[59:10] spending ways. Uh, sorry, that's a joke.

[59:14] So, I'm just asking you to please

[59:16] consider that. Since I got another

[59:18] minute or so, I'll dive into a few other

[59:20] things.

[59:23] Last meeting, Mr. Denady, and I like

[59:25] you. I think you're a nice guy. He

[59:27] called Mr. Booth out about three or four

[59:29] times for speaking, making comments.

[59:32] Told him, "Be quiet. Won't be no

[59:34] applause. Won't be this." So far

[59:35] tonight, we have divied away from that.

[59:37] I think you'll miss Mr. Booth an

[59:39] apology. He can get a little crazy, a

[59:41] little radical. I know he's a neighbor

[59:43] of mine, but he's sincere and he means

[59:46] what he says. He's trying to do what's

[59:48] right by this county.

[59:50] I hope y'all listen to your planning

[59:53] commission. Y'all obviously didn't last

[59:54] time with Meltonville and all that

[59:56] stuff. Now, I got this to say. This gun

[1:00:00] issue thing

[1:00:01] been a life member

[1:00:04] the NRA for 55 years. My wife doesn't

[1:00:08] like hunting. She owns a gun. The first

[1:00:09] gift my son got when he was one year old

[1:00:11] was a life membership in the NRA. I'm

[1:00:14] telling every one of you sitting up

[1:00:15] there. Only one I have any dictate over

[1:00:17] to is Mr. Powers. in my district. Don't

[1:00:20] mess with the gun rights of people in

[1:00:22] this county. I'd love to stay, but I got

[1:00:23] to go home and take care of my wife. God

[1:00:25] bless you and good luck tonight.

[1:00:34] » Send

[1:00:49] Good evening. My name is Cindy Bootton.

[1:00:52] I live at 4343 Ridge Road, Palatan.

[1:00:55] Um, couple of issues. First, I wanted to

[1:00:59] inform the board where I live.

[1:01:03] Um, I have neighbors that are at least

[1:01:06] 1,500 to 2,000 feet away and they have

[1:01:11] two children that if the weather permits

[1:01:15] on their dirt bikes at least 3 hours a

[1:01:18] day, the evening hours when people like

[1:01:21] to relax and enjoy their evening after

[1:01:24] work, have some quiet time. Not at my

[1:01:27] house.

[1:01:29] And I don't mean to be mean, but every

[1:01:33] time I hear them, I hope one of them

[1:01:35] wrecks.

[1:01:37] Not that I want them to die,

[1:01:41] but I'd like one of them hurt bad enough

[1:01:42] that they gave up the motorcycles so I

[1:01:45] can enjoy some peace and quiet. I have

[1:01:49] anxiety issues, and I should be able to

[1:01:52] relax at home in my yard. The other

[1:01:57] thing is on and I've got 55 acres. I'm

[1:02:01] in the middle of it. I did my best with

[1:02:04] what I could afford to protect myself. I

[1:02:07] moved out here where there wasn't

[1:02:09] anybody here.

[1:02:11] Uh I have neighbors now shooting on all

[1:02:14] four sides of me and I know the Second

[1:02:16] Amendment right allows them the right to

[1:02:19] own a firearm. I don't have a problem

[1:02:22] with them owning a firearm. What I have

[1:02:25] a problem with is me feeling like I'm in

[1:02:29] a battlefield in my own yard. There

[1:02:33] should be one or two days a week that

[1:02:36] the board could come up with that it's

[1:02:38] quiet time for everybody in the county.

[1:02:41] The guys get to play with their guns.

[1:02:44] They get to hunt. I can't quit. I can't

[1:02:47] make this make them stop, but I would

[1:02:49] appreciate some kind of Nor's ordinance

[1:02:51] that puts an evening and a morning time

[1:02:56] be before which they can't shoot and

[1:02:59] after which they can't shoot. And I

[1:03:01] would like two days a week when it's

[1:03:04] quiet time for old people like me

[1:03:08] to have some peace and quiet and not

[1:03:10] have to take an anxiety pill. Okay. I

[1:03:14] think it's only fair they get to have

[1:03:16] their guns. I should have the right to

[1:03:22] what's it say?

[1:03:24] Life, liberty, and the pursuit of

[1:03:25] happiness.

[1:03:27] Quiet time is my pursuit of happiness.

[1:03:31] And I should be allowed that just as

[1:03:33] much as they should be allowed to have a

[1:03:35] gun and shoot. And the other thing is

[1:03:38] the reason I told you about the

[1:03:40] motorcycle kids, you've got a subject

[1:03:43] coming up tonight that relates to that.

[1:03:46] I just wanted you to know how far away

[1:03:48] from them I live and I still have to

[1:03:52] deal with the noise. And I'm 70 years

[1:03:56] old, worked hard all my life.

[1:04:00] I should I should have been able to earn

[1:04:03] the right to live in my yard in peace as

[1:04:07] well as these kids having fun.

[1:04:10] >> Thank you.

[1:04:13] >> April May,

[1:04:24] I'm April May. I live at 3571 Pine View

[1:04:27] Drive. Thank you, board, for hearing us.

[1:04:30] I'm here to I'm a horrible speaker too,

[1:04:32] by the way, so bear with me. Um, for you

[1:04:35] to deny the CPU in the resoning for

[1:04:38] throttle therapy.

[1:04:38] >> Would you mind just hanging on to your

[1:04:39] comments until we get to that?

[1:04:41] >> That just gives me more time to

[1:04:42] practice.

[1:04:42] >> Absolutely. [laughter]

[1:04:46] >> Don May.

[1:04:48] >> Okay. Uh, Janet Newton.

[1:04:58] » Good afternoon. I'm Janet Newton, 2933

[1:05:01] Lake Louise Drive, District 3. Um, I'm

[1:05:05] here again to discuss Lake Louise. Lake

[1:05:08] Louise has once again come um to the

[1:05:10] forefront on social media this week.

[1:05:12] People want answers. I would like to

[1:05:15] address the instability of the dam that

[1:05:17] supports Mountain View Road. It

[1:05:19] continues to grow with every weather

[1:05:21] event. Um, Lake Louise, for those that

[1:05:24] don't know, was sold at a delinquent tax

[1:05:26] auction for $2,500, almost 7 acres of a

[1:05:29] lake. People say to us, 14 lot owners,

[1:05:33] uh, you're always up there at the board

[1:05:34] of supervisors meeting, why didn't you

[1:05:36] buy the lake? How do you buy something

[1:05:39] that you don't know is for sale? We were

[1:05:42] blindsided by this.

[1:05:44] Reason being a couple of years prior we

[1:05:47] had um went to the county and asked

[1:05:49] about purchasing the lake and we were

[1:05:51] told all back taxes between 20 and

[1:05:54] $30,000 is what it would take to buy

[1:05:57] that lake. So yeah, we were blindsided.

[1:06:00] Jim and Deborah Reynolds bought it for

[1:06:01] $2,500

[1:06:03] and then offered it for sale on social

[1:06:05] media to us for $54,000.

[1:06:09] when we said we didn't weren't

[1:06:11] interested in buying it for that um they

[1:06:14] said we were going to destroy your

[1:06:16] recreational deed rights and they did uh

[1:06:19] we have a cave-in now on Mountain View

[1:06:21] Road and as I said earlier the dam

[1:06:24] supports Mountain View Road and that

[1:06:25] cave-in grows with every weather event

[1:06:28] and we've had a lot of weather recently

[1:06:31] deeq and V do have all been involved

[1:06:34] since last year and have requested the

[1:06:36] rentals to stabilize the area They

[1:06:38] pretty much thumb their noses at these

[1:06:40] requests because the situation gets

[1:06:42] worse as I said every weather event.

[1:06:46] They destroyed a thriving ecosystem, a

[1:06:48] 7acre lake. We witnessed a horrible fish

[1:06:51] kill. They uh didn't get any required

[1:06:54] permits to do this. They did this in

[1:06:56] broad daylight. And I have pictures of

[1:06:58] the individual who shoveled out that

[1:07:00] Virginia protected creek in a lame uh

[1:07:04] attempt to destroy that lake. our

[1:07:06] property values tanked by 30%. Thank

[1:07:09] goodness you guys took that into account

[1:07:11] and gave us the 25% reduction in our

[1:07:15] taxes. Um, yes. Ironically, the owners,

[1:07:19] Jim and Deborah Reynolds, live in Lake

[1:07:21] Shaun and serve on that board. I'm

[1:07:24] asking the board tonight, what can you

[1:07:26] do to compel these folks to comply with

[1:07:29] stabilizing the area? Trees fall. Um,

[1:07:32] we've got them off the road. Um, it's

[1:07:35] very unstable. Sediments flowing

[1:07:37] downstream, discolored water, please get

[1:07:40] your well water tested. If you live

[1:07:42] downstream,

[1:07:44] if if agencies are keeping a close eye

[1:07:47] on the instability, are you going at it

[1:07:50] um from the road? Uh you're not going to

[1:07:52] get a very good view. Come to my

[1:07:54] backyard. I invite you to. I have the

[1:07:56] best view of what's going on at that

[1:07:58] cavein. And you'll see why I'm up here

[1:08:01] every month to ask these questions.

[1:08:05] Thank you.

[1:08:05] >> Thank you,

[1:08:09] » James Cave.

[1:08:14] » Okay. All right. We'll come out of the

[1:08:18] comment period and move to appointments.

[1:08:23] There are two library board appointments

[1:08:25] on the agenda. One for the district

[1:08:27] three seat and one at large seat. You

[1:08:30] have three applications in your packet

[1:08:32] and all three applicants reside in

[1:08:34] district three.

[1:08:41] [clears throat]

[1:08:42] >> Go ahead.

[1:08:45] I'm asking for board consideration for

[1:08:47] the appointment of Joanne Fico and of uh

[1:08:51] Arthur Gregory uh to the uh library

[1:08:55] board.

[1:08:56] >> Second.

[1:08:59] >> All in favor?

[1:09:00] >> I.

[1:09:01] >> Any oppose?

[1:09:03] Hearing? None. That passes and bring us

[1:09:04] to our consent agenda.

[1:09:06] >> Mr. Chairman, could I have one more

[1:09:07] minute? Um

[1:09:08] >> we were fortunate to have three

[1:09:10] applicants and uh we only had two

[1:09:12] positions open. Uh, and I want to just

[1:09:14] uh call out um Mrs. Fluitt who applied

[1:09:18] and thank her for her interest in the

[1:09:20] county and encourage her to continue to

[1:09:23] look to uh volunteer time. We need as

[1:09:27] much help as we can get and I thank her

[1:09:29] for her interest. Thank you, Mr.

[1:09:31] Chairman.

[1:09:33] >> Thank you. I'll move us to consent.

[1:09:36] >> Items A through C on the consent agenda

[1:09:39] are minutes approvals from prior board

[1:09:41] meetings.

[1:09:44] Item D is a budget action to accept

[1:09:48] state funding, insurance recoveries, and

[1:09:50] farmers market fees and appropriate

[1:09:51] these funds for their intended uses.

[1:09:54] Item E is a budget action to accept just

[1:09:57] over $9,800 in additional state library

[1:10:00] aid. Item F is an action referring four

[1:10:04] zoning ordinance text amendments to the

[1:10:06] planning commission. uh each addresses

[1:10:08] changes in state law that uh that

[1:10:10] require corresponding updates to our

[1:10:12] county local ordinances. And item G is

[1:10:16] an annual certification confirming that

[1:10:18] the county has used CBTA funding only

[1:10:21] for eligible transportation related

[1:10:23] projects.

[1:10:26] » Mr. Agy, item G with that. Do we have

[1:10:29] that listed anywhere for public

[1:10:31] knowledge? The uh the projects that

[1:10:34] we've spent funding on in fiscal year 26

[1:10:37] are on the Carter Gallier project. Uh we

[1:10:40] spent just over $4,000 on an appraisal

[1:10:43] and a rightaway plat. And then we spent

[1:10:46] uh $512,000

[1:10:48] on the arch project at Route 13 and

[1:10:51] Route 60.

[1:10:52] >> Well, we can make those available if

[1:10:54] somewhere you were to ask.

[1:10:55] >> We can.

[1:10:56] >> Okay.

[1:11:01] M. Go ahead, Mr. Powers.

[1:11:03] >> I have one question on F will

[1:11:06] >> Did he change his name?

[1:11:07] >> It's okay. Go ahead. Sorry. Go ahead.

[1:11:08] >> Sorry. Yeah. Um,

[1:11:10] will on item F,

[1:11:13] are we before the referral to the

[1:11:16] planning commission on the voting

[1:11:18] ordinate text, does the board get to

[1:11:20] review the text or is that something

[1:11:21] they're going to draft?

[1:11:22] >> So, tonight you're just referring these

[1:11:25] items to the planning commission. And

[1:11:26] these were the items uh that we talked

[1:11:28] about during 2 by twos that um

[1:11:31] legislative changes at the state level

[1:11:33] has trickled down and now necessitates

[1:11:35] some adjustment in our local zoning

[1:11:37] ordinances. So the uh planning

[1:11:38] commission will pick them up and then

[1:11:40] they'll come back um to the board after

[1:11:43] the planning commission's reviewed those four items.

[1:11:45] >> Thank you,

[1:11:47] >> Mr. Ch. Mr. Powers. Go ahead. I'd like

[1:11:50] to ask the board to consider uh some

[1:11:52] edits to the um minutes of July 27th

[1:11:58] uh on page 22 of your packet. Um

[1:12:02] and specifically uh there at the in the

[1:12:05] first sentence which reads 2850 Red Lane

[1:12:07] Road, director of Pony Creek

[1:12:09] Veterinarian House. It should say horse.

[1:12:14] If you make that change, please. And in

[1:12:17] the uh third sentence there, it

[1:12:19] currently says um her existing

[1:12:21] structures are residential dwellings

[1:12:24] rather than 180day seasonal camping

[1:12:27] cabins. Um I'd like to edit that so that

[1:12:30] the resulting

[1:12:32] uh phrase it says simply the resulting

[1:12:34] portion of the sentence should then read

[1:12:36] her existing 180day seasonal camping

[1:12:39] cabins.

[1:12:44] And to that end, I would like to make a

[1:12:46] motion that we accept um those changes

[1:12:50] to the minutes as suggested.

[1:12:52] >> Any uh any comments in reference to the edits?

[1:13:01] » Second.

[1:13:02] >> Hearing none, we got a second on the

[1:13:03] floor. All in favor?

[1:13:04] >> Just clarify that that's for the entire

[1:13:06] consent agenda.

[1:13:07] >> I'm sorry. Yeah, for the entire consent

[1:13:08] agenda.

[1:13:12] » All in favor?

[1:13:13] >> I Any oppose? Hearing none. Moves us to

[1:13:16] action items.

[1:13:18] >> Um, item A under action items is a

[1:13:21] budget action and Miss Schubert is here

[1:13:23] for an overview.

[1:13:26] » Item [clears throat]

[1:13:28] A is resolution R202648.

[1:13:31] That's budgeting and appropriating uh

[1:13:33] $219,8465

[1:13:36] to the fisc year 26 budget in our grants

[1:13:40] fund. Periodically throughout the year,

[1:13:42] we get grants and donations that are put

[1:13:45] in this fund that can only be spent for

[1:13:47] specific purposes. Uh the majority of of

[1:13:50] this resolution is for an opioid

[1:13:53] abatement cooperative grant that we

[1:13:54] received. Uh we're in a cooperative

[1:13:57] grant with Chesterfield, Colonial

[1:13:59] Heights, and Petersburg that we receive

[1:14:02] money from the state's opioid abatement

[1:14:03] authority to do outreach, mobile

[1:14:05] outreach. Um and so that's the majority

[1:14:08] of the resolution. Uh we also get um

[1:14:11] national opioid settlement money per

[1:14:14] periodically throughout the year based

[1:14:15] on a class action settlement. And so as

[1:14:17] I receive those we get those

[1:14:20] appropriated um to be used at a a future

[1:14:23] time. Um, and then the others are triad

[1:14:27] library, some animal shelter donations,

[1:14:29] project lifesaver, uh, sheriff

[1:14:32] donations, Earth Day, our junior

[1:14:34] emergency technician donations for that

[1:14:36] program, and parks and rec scholarship

[1:14:39] program.

[1:14:44] » Any questions?

[1:14:47] All

[1:14:50] right.

[1:14:52] Open the floor up for a motion.

[1:15:01] R 202648

[1:15:04] that amends the fiscal year two 2026

[1:15:08] Paladin County operating budget and

[1:15:11] appropriating $219

[1:15:15] 8465

[1:15:18] in grants and funding for miscellaneous

[1:15:20] grants and donations.

[1:15:22] >> Second.

[1:15:23] >> All in favor? I.

[1:15:25] >> Any oppose?

[1:15:28] Item B is a budget action that assigns

[1:15:30] $900,000 for use by the state mill turn

[1:15:33] lane project. And we'll turn it over to

[1:15:35] Miss. Uh this resolution is amending the

[1:15:37] fiscical year 27 uh operating budget by

[1:15:40] 900,000 in our central Virginia

[1:15:43] Transportation Authority fund. Um these

[1:15:46] this was a grant uh the money this is

[1:15:48] money being held at the state CVTA. We

[1:15:50] applied for a grant of 900,000 to help

[1:15:54] um put an additional turn lane at Stave

[1:15:56] Mill.

[1:15:58] >> Can you can you dive into greater detail

[1:16:00] with the fact that we just approved

[1:16:02] regional money just a few months ago?

[1:16:07] » The

[1:16:08] >> I uh I can dive into that.

[1:16:09] >> Okay, [clears throat] you dive into

[1:16:09] that.

[1:16:10] >> Yeah. So on uh this is a project where

[1:16:12] we were awarded $1.8 million in CVTA

[1:16:15] regional funding to complete this turn

[1:16:17] lane. Um, but we reached out to Wawwa,

[1:16:19] the developer of the uh of that corner

[1:16:22] on Stave Mill and Route 60, and we're

[1:16:25] collaborating with that project to have

[1:16:27] their contractor build the turn lane uh

[1:16:30] while they're mobilized for that

[1:16:31] project. Um, they're going to be able to

[1:16:33] do that at a reduced cost, which we're

[1:16:36] estimating at $900,000. So, that's why

[1:16:38] the amount is different than the 1.8

[1:16:41] that we were awarded from CBTA regional

[1:16:43] funding.

[1:16:47] Any follow-up questions on that?

[1:16:53] » So, we're not we're basically taking 900

[1:16:55] of that 1.8 that we were already

[1:16:56] awarded.

[1:16:57] >> Exactly.

[1:16:57] >> Just want to I just want to make sure

[1:16:58] that that's clear. And [clears throat]

[1:17:05] I'll make a motion uh that we uh approve

[1:17:08] resolution R2026-49

[1:17:11] amending the fiscal year 2027 Palan

[1:17:15] County operating budget by uh budgeting

[1:17:17] and appropriating 900,000 in CBTA fund.

[1:17:20] >> Second.

[1:17:21] >> All in favor?

[1:17:22] >> I.

[1:17:22] >> Any oppose?

[1:17:25] Hearing none that passes. Thank you for

[1:17:26] the clarification.

[1:17:28] Item C is our last budget amendment and

[1:17:30] this is to the Powank County Public

[1:17:32] Schools budget and we'll turn it over

[1:17:33] again to Miss Schubert.

[1:17:34] >> Uh yes, resolution R202651

[1:17:37] is actually reducing the school's um

[1:17:41] operational budget by $164,95.

[1:17:45] As we know, the state did not approve

[1:17:47] their budget till June 29th. And so

[1:17:50] therefore, the schools received the new

[1:17:53] CL tool from the Virginia Department of

[1:17:55] Education. And once they applied that

[1:17:57] with the ADM, they had a reduction in

[1:17:59] basic aid. And then but they did get um

[1:18:02] an increase of 70,000 of state sales

[1:18:05] tax, but a reduction of basic aid of

[1:18:06] 235,191.

[1:18:09] Um they are proposing they're reducing

[1:18:11] um instruction by 14,800, operation and

[1:18:15] maintenance by 24,176,

[1:18:18] and then the contingency line by

[1:18:20] $125,929.

[1:18:25] questions.

[1:18:31] I'll entertain a motion.

[1:18:36] » I make a motion we approve resolution R

[1:18:38] 2026-51.

[1:18:41] » All in favor?

[1:18:43] >> Any oppose?

[1:18:45] >> Hearing none, it passes. 50.

[1:18:48] >> And item D is a resolution to approve

[1:18:50] the CSB annual performance contract. and

[1:18:53] Mr. Toby Fritz, who's the executive

[1:18:55] director for the CSB, uh, is with us

[1:18:58] tonight for an overview.

[1:19:10] Good evening everyone. Uh, Chairman

[1:19:12] Nani, members of the board, and uh, Mr.

[1:19:14] Hegy, thank you so much for the

[1:19:15] invitation to come here and speak this

[1:19:18] evening. Um, I promise I will keep it

[1:19:20] under the aotted time at 10 minutes. I

[1:19:23] probably will be done in five. I can

[1:19:24] talk kind of quickly. I just want to

[1:19:26] talk briefly first about uh who we are

[1:19:29] in case some folks here haven't heard of

[1:19:30] the CSB and then talk about some amazing

[1:19:33] things that happened in fiscal year 26

[1:19:36] and then as as Mr. Hegy mentioned the

[1:19:38] ask tonight to look at our performance

[1:19:40] contract uh for the next year. So, a

[1:19:44] community services board, you may hear

[1:19:46] me say CSB, that a community services

[1:19:48] board is the uh entity that was created

[1:19:53] by statute. Um, Gland Palatin Community

[1:19:56] Services was started in 1982

[1:19:59] and we are the local option, the local

[1:20:02] entry point for mental health,

[1:20:05] developmental, and services and

[1:20:07] substance use recovery services. We're

[1:20:09] the public safety net for any publicly

[1:20:11] funded uh services, the mental health de

[1:20:14] developmental services and uh substance

[1:20:16] use recovery. So we are the one door for

[1:20:20] folks that have questions about any of

[1:20:22] those types of services to come in.

[1:20:25] So if you remember anything about

[1:20:27] tonight, just remember if you have

[1:20:28] questions about any of those services,

[1:20:30] start with us, please. So uh what we do,

[1:20:33] I mentioned those three categories. The

[1:20:35] one um blog that's up there, same day

[1:20:38] access. I want to make sure I highlight

[1:20:40] that we have a service that's available

[1:20:43] Monday through Friday the working hours

[1:20:45] that if somebody is in a habit of moment

[1:20:48] and they want to come get an assessment

[1:20:49] they can walk in. We call it same day

[1:20:51] access and last year 187 of our

[1:20:55] residents took care of it that took

[1:20:56] advantage of that service here in

[1:20:58] Palatan. So that was a a number that

[1:21:00] we're really happy with. Um, so there

[1:21:02] are a lot of services up there, 23

[1:21:04] different services actually that we do

[1:21:06] at the CSB from assessments of a toddler

[1:21:10] the whole way up through a 2 a.m. crisis

[1:21:12] call. Now, we partner with um folks in

[1:21:15] Richmond to cover those uh after hours,

[1:21:18] evenings, weekends calls because we're

[1:21:20] too small for that, but we have a lot of

[1:21:22] services there that we can help

[1:21:23] somebody. Um, so in fiscal year 26 there

[1:21:27] was 711 of our neighbors that we served

[1:21:30] over 24,000 different services. So

[1:21:34] basically that's one in 45 people in

[1:21:37] Palatin County that we were able to

[1:21:38] serve. And throughout the year there

[1:21:41] were approximately 100 services on any

[1:21:44] given day that we were open that we

[1:21:46] delivered for people in Palatin County.

[1:21:48] So we're really proud of those numbers.

[1:21:50] Um, another number that I'm a little

[1:21:52] really proud of is our net promoter

[1:21:54] score. If you've ever heard of a net

[1:21:56] promoter score, that's that question you

[1:21:58] get. How likely are you refer to refer

[1:22:01] somebody to Palace and Community

[1:22:03] Services? You probably get that question

[1:22:05] about a restaurant or a medical office

[1:22:07] um all the time. But the scores after

[1:22:10] the calculations are done range from

[1:22:11] negative 100 to 100. And anything above

[1:22:15] 50 is generally considered excellent. So

[1:22:17] our score of 74 is something that we're

[1:22:19] really proud of.

[1:22:22] Um, one of the programs that folks may

[1:22:24] recognize is Monikin. We're based right

[1:22:26] here in this building. Uh, we'll be

[1:22:28] based over in our new building. When we

[1:22:29] get it done, I'll talk about our new

[1:22:31] building here briefly. But one of the

[1:22:33] things that was very cool um from last

[1:22:35] year was that our Monican program in

[1:22:38] their talent show was featured on the

[1:22:39] cover of the annual uh VACSB, the

[1:22:43] Virginia Association of Community

[1:22:44] Services Board on their annual report.

[1:22:46] So, I thought that was a pretty cool

[1:22:48] recognition. Um, one of the other pieces

[1:22:50] of data for that program is the state

[1:22:53] requires that we hit 50% uh of community

[1:22:57] engagement. We had 79. So that was uh

[1:23:00] something that we blew out of the water.

[1:23:01] Really happy with that. And something

[1:23:04] that um will mentioned earlier, the uh

[1:23:08] helpfest, it's a partnership that we're

[1:23:09] doing with substance use and recovery.

[1:23:11] But one of the other things that we're

[1:23:13] happy about with Monikin is a lot of

[1:23:15] partnerships that we have there that

[1:23:17] folks participate in in packing the

[1:23:19] backpacks of love, doing the judging

[1:23:22] Halloween contest and things like that.

[1:23:24] So great program that I I love I love

[1:23:27] seeing. Just to talk briefly about the

[1:23:30] people who do the work, there are just

[1:23:32] under 100 folks that work for the CSB.

[1:23:35] Um and 88% of them last year voted uh

[1:23:38] Gushland Palace and Community Services

[1:23:40] as a great place to work. That great

[1:23:42] place to work certification is an

[1:23:44] international certification. So it's a third party that does the

[1:23:48] certification. Uh 88% of CSB workers

[1:23:52] said that that's compared to 57% of a

[1:23:54] typical US company. 99% uh feel good

[1:23:58] about what we do for the community. I

[1:24:00] think that's a lot of why we're all

[1:24:01] here. And um every person that completed

[1:24:04] our survey said they were satisfied with

[1:24:06] what we have to offer. So some upcoming

[1:24:09] milestones I mentioned our building. So

[1:24:11] everybody may have seen our new building

[1:24:13] that's under construction uh just close

[1:24:15] to the admin building. We're

[1:24:17] anticipating being able to occupy the

[1:24:20] building and start delivering services

[1:24:21] there in the spring of 2027.

[1:24:25] Another um project that's underway is a

[1:24:28] revamp of our website. we were able to

[1:24:31] get a grant to fund that and hopefully

[1:24:34] come up with a website that will really

[1:24:36] invite people in, help uh walk them

[1:24:38] through our front doors in terms of

[1:24:40] finding the type of service that they're

[1:24:42] looking for. Um, and something else that

[1:24:44] I'm really proud of, um, our

[1:24:46] developmental services team. I mentioned

[1:24:48] same day access. That's for mental

[1:24:49] health and substance use. They created

[1:24:52] something for developmental services

[1:24:53] because folks have questions, a lot of

[1:24:56] questions accessing waiver services. I

[1:24:59] mean the process there is is complicated

[1:25:02] and so there's always questions. So they

[1:25:04] created that um DD access and started

[1:25:06] that July one and um so that's really

[1:25:09] great that we have that in place now. So

[1:25:11] the performance contract so that is the

[1:25:15] document that is put out by the state

[1:25:16] that covers all of our um all CSPs. Um

[1:25:20] so we're in the second year of this

[1:25:22] current performance contract and so

[1:25:24] there were amendments that were

[1:25:25] submitted there with you this evening.

[1:25:28] Um, so the amendments basically were a

[1:25:31] requirement on the CSB to maximize what

[1:25:33] we're doing for Medicaid billing. Um,

[1:25:36] some updates to patient um to patient

[1:25:39] education and reporting. Some updates to

[1:25:41] quality measures and reporting dates.

[1:25:44] Um, some as federal laws come out

[1:25:46] regarding uh protected health

[1:25:48] information, we of course need to update

[1:25:50] our policies. That's in the performance

[1:25:52] contract. And there was also some

[1:25:54] administrative updates regarding um

[1:25:57] funding processes all the state funds

[1:25:59] that come to CSBs. That's something that

[1:26:02] really affects the bigger ones um but

[1:26:04] not us but it's still something we all

[1:26:05] have to abide by and some training

[1:26:07] requirements. So that's good palatin

[1:26:10] community services. I wanted to stress

[1:26:13] our uh phone numbers are up on the

[1:26:15] screen for everybody. 804598-2200

[1:26:18] that's our palatin office. Our crisis

[1:26:21] number is 804598-2697.

[1:26:24] That's a number that anybody can call

[1:26:26] any time of the day. During business

[1:26:29] hours, you'll get somebody local after

[1:26:31] hours. There'll be somebody from

[1:26:32] Richmond, our partners in Richmond

[1:26:34] Behavior Health who can answer. And of

[1:26:37] course 988, one of the things that um

[1:26:39] I'm very intrigued by is it took 911, I'm sorry, over three decades to

[1:26:45] fully be widespread and implemented. But

[1:26:48] uh 988 is now up and running here in

[1:26:50] Palatine County. It is uh a service that

[1:26:53] if anybody's having a mental health

[1:26:54] crisis, they can call and get support

[1:26:56] right away. And if somebody calls 911,

[1:26:58] we have now have the connection. Um the

[1:27:01] PAP team did great. Uh the public

[1:27:03] service answering uh team did a great

[1:27:05] job getting that connected in the

[1:27:07] background. So, a lot of good stuff

[1:27:08] going on here in Palatin County. I could

[1:27:10] talk too long, but I'll stop now. Any

[1:27:14] questions on on the CSB on the

[1:27:17] performance contract or anything that I

[1:27:18] presented?

[1:27:20] >> Any questions from the board?

[1:27:22] >> No.

[1:27:24] >> Thank you. Just need a uh a motion to

[1:27:27] approve the annual performance contract.

[1:27:30] >> I move we we approve the annual

[1:27:33] performance contract for the CSP.

[1:27:36] >> Second.

[1:27:37] >> All in favor? I

[1:27:39] >> I oppose. Passes five vote.

[1:27:44] Thank you.

[1:27:50] » All right, that'll bring us into our

[1:27:51] public hearings.

[1:27:53] >> So, item A is a conditional use permit

[1:27:56] uh request from a business in District 2

[1:27:58] and Mr. Web is here for an overview.

[1:28:11] Members of the board, a

[1:28:14] quick presentation. Uh as you can see

[1:28:16] the first one will be Chabakans CU

[1:28:18] request for rural event venue.

[1:28:57] There we go. Thank you. Okay. As I

[1:29:00] stated, uh, case 2605 CUP Commissioner

[1:29:04] Smith from Arthur Traverick for a rural

[1:29:06] event venue on Dorset on Dorset Road.

[1:29:11] As [clears throat] you can see here, the

[1:29:12] proposal would utilize Chadwickinson's

[1:29:14] orchid operation and existing structures

[1:29:16] to host weddings, receptions, and

[1:29:19] similar private events.

[1:29:21] Uh, rule event venues are allowable by

[1:29:23] CUP in the A10 zoning district.

[1:29:26] Development would be in conformance with

[1:29:29] the concept plan as you can see here

[1:29:31] showing the existing dwelling, which

[1:29:33] would not be part of the operation, but

[1:29:35] you have a field there to the north that

[1:29:36] could potentially be for tents. And then

[1:29:39] over in sort of in the souththeast

[1:29:41] corner, you can see there is a um a

[1:29:44] pavilion uh that you know any events

[1:29:46] could use the whole facility, the green

[1:29:49] houses and and things like that.

[1:29:54] As you can see here, here are the three

[1:29:56] uh three properties just north of Mosler

[1:29:58] Road on Dorset Road. And you can see uh

[1:30:01] the zoning of the area is is uh

[1:30:03] agriculture 10 with to the to the east

[1:30:06] some single family residential on the

[1:30:09] future land use map. Uh it is uh rural

[1:30:12] areas.

[1:30:16] Proposed conditions it would be a

[1:30:18] maximum of eight events per month with

[1:30:20] no more than 75 guests per event with

[1:30:24] limits on the time events may be held.

[1:30:26] Final conditions will be subject to a

[1:30:28] site plan approval and the CUP is good

[1:30:30] for five years at which point it must be

[1:30:32] renewed.

[1:30:36] Uh the request uh [clears throat]

[1:30:39] requires modification of the rural event

[1:30:41] venue development standards requiring

[1:30:44] all buildings, parking areas and so

[1:30:46] forth uh to be located at least 200 ft

[1:30:49] from the property line. is you as you

[1:30:52] can see here uh that number number three

[1:30:54] there and number six you might remember

[1:30:56] I think a year or so ago we added

[1:30:58] there's potential for the board to

[1:30:59] modify uh uh rural event venues

[1:31:04] uh the nearest structure would be in

[1:31:06] that lower southeast corner of that

[1:31:07] pavilion which is about 20 ft from the

[1:31:10] property line uh it's it's well set back

[1:31:13] from the the neighbors a little under

[1:31:15] 275 ft from the adjoining houses and

[1:31:18] that's the closest point that the uh

[1:31:21] venue would have two neighbors houses.

[1:31:26] And I did a just kind of did a little

[1:31:27] diagram here just to show you. You can

[1:31:29] see kind of that lower corner the 20 ft

[1:31:32] and you can see 295 270 to the houses.

[1:31:34] But if you now go to the north kind of

[1:31:37] where that field where maybe they would

[1:31:38] have tents and things like that, uh you

[1:31:40] then would meet would meet those

[1:31:42] requirements easily. Uh so just an idea

[1:31:44] just what the setbacks look like.

[1:31:50] Since [clears throat] this is a CUP, I

[1:31:52] just want to note that there are a

[1:31:53] number of review standards in the zoning

[1:31:55] ordinance require staff and the board to

[1:31:57] look at when considering. Won't go over

[1:32:00] all those. There are in a staff report.

[1:32:05] Um, the plane director, that's me,

[1:32:07] recommends approval of CGP requests as

[1:32:10] amended subject to proposed conditions,

[1:32:13] including requested modifications to

[1:32:16] rule event venue development standard 3.

[1:32:18] Uh, the planning commission last month

[1:32:20] uh recommended approval by a 5 to zero

[1:32:22] vote. And just the changes since the

[1:32:25] planning commission, uh, you can see it

[1:32:27] went from four to eight events a month.

[1:32:29] Uh, we've removed restrictions now

[1:32:31] allowing events in winter months. So, it

[1:32:33] is allowable all all year, even though I

[1:32:35] think it would be heavily tilted towards

[1:32:37] summer and and fall spring. Uh, and the

[1:32:40] requests adjusting hours from 5 to 9:00

[1:32:43] p.m. to 9:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. I think,

[1:32:46] uh, Mr. Chadwick said garden clubs and,

[1:32:49] [clears throat] you know, uh, groups

[1:32:51] like that sometimes will meet during the

[1:32:52] day. Uh, so that would allow that from

[1:32:54] the 9:00 a.m. to the 900 pm. Uh, any

[1:32:57] questions?

[1:32:59] >> Questions from the board?

[1:33:02] >> M. Chairman,

[1:33:02] >> go ahead.

[1:33:04] >> Uh, Lian, on page 135 of our packet, um,

[1:33:08] under TR Roman numeral 7, transportation

[1:33:10] traffic analysis, in the fourth

[1:33:13] paragraph, it says, "The re recommended

[1:33:16] cup conditions require the existing

[1:33:18] Dorset road entrance to be upgraded to a

[1:33:20] moderate commercial entrance prior to

[1:33:24] commencement of the rural venue use."

[1:33:27] Um, in talking with Charity today, um, I think that moderate I didn't know what

[1:33:34] one was and it depends on VOTE's

[1:33:37] assessment of the amount of traffic

[1:33:39] coming in and out. Um, when you've gone

[1:33:41] to eight events, uh, the turn there off

[1:33:44] of Dorset is a sharp 90 degree turn. Um,

[1:33:48] I would encourage you as you do site

[1:33:50] planning to do as much radius there so

[1:33:52] that someone coming in doesn't have to

[1:33:53] stop, make a right-hand turn, can more

[1:33:56] ease into a turn going into that venue.

[1:33:59] >> Yeah, I think the the moderate is 18 to

[1:34:03] 30 feet of width at the highway. Um, I

[1:34:07] think it's probably at least a 20 foot

[1:34:09] wide, but uh they'll look at that the

[1:34:11] site plan um as far as widening that and

[1:34:14] work with VOTE to make sure they're

[1:34:16] satisfied with that.

[1:34:17] >> I just want a good radius on it.

[1:34:18] >> Yes, sir.

[1:34:18] >> Yeah. Okay. Just if you could bear that

[1:34:20] in mind as the site planning's done, I'd

[1:34:22] appreciate it.

[1:34:24] >> Any other questions for staff?

[1:34:28] >> Looking as applicant here to present

[1:34:29] anything

[1:34:33] » if you so desire. All right, Arthur

[1:34:35] Chadwick, 1240 Dors Road. Uh, this is

[1:34:39] just an idea we've hatched to possibly

[1:34:41] host events at our farm. Maybe weddings,

[1:34:43] maybe garden club events, wreath making

[1:34:45] classes, poinsetta grooming, uh, you

[1:34:49] know, 75 people max. It's we sort of

[1:34:52] already have a, you know, people,

[1:34:53] gardening, people come in regularly to

[1:34:55] our farm. This is more of a an event

[1:34:57] specific thing, but nothing major.

[1:35:01] Excellent.

[1:35:01] >> Any questions for the applicant?

[1:35:07] All right. Thank you.

[1:35:09] >> All right. Now, we're going to open up

[1:35:10] to the public. I'm going to go through

[1:35:11] this

[1:35:13] one time for everybody. Uh, as Mr. Barum

[1:35:16] mentioned earlier, um, I'm going to I'm

[1:35:19] going to reference something that he

[1:35:20] mentioned. Um, so the board will now

[1:35:24] conduct a public hearing. Individuals

[1:35:27] speaking may speak up to three minutes

[1:35:30] stating their name and address for their

[1:35:33] district. A representative of of a

[1:35:36] legally organized group may speak up to

[1:35:38] five minutes. After stating their name

[1:35:40] and address and representation uh

[1:35:43] provide at least as long as there's at

[1:35:45] least three members of that group

[1:35:46] present,

[1:35:48] speakers shall direct their comments to

[1:35:50] the board as a whole and not the

[1:35:52] individual individuals or groups. They

[1:35:56] may not use any vulgar language, rude or

[1:35:58] threatening language. All persons in

[1:36:00] attendance shall observe the board's

[1:36:03] decorum policy and conduct themselves in

[1:36:06] a professional manner that demonstrates

[1:36:08] respect for others and is not

[1:36:10] disruptive. Applause or outburst during

[1:36:15] or after speaker comments is not

[1:36:18] appropriate and violates the board's

[1:36:20] decorum policy. Everybody hear that? Go

[1:36:23] like this for me. Thank you. Thank you

[1:36:24] so much. I appreciate you. All right. We

[1:36:27] would now like to open this up to the

[1:36:29] public. Anybody would like to come speak

[1:36:30] on on behalf of this hearing.

[1:36:37] Seeing no one, we will close this

[1:36:39] hearing and open it up to the board for

[1:36:41] any comments.

[1:36:43] >> Mr. Chair,

[1:36:44] >> go ahead.

[1:36:45] >> Me and Darlene, we traveled around this

[1:36:47] property. We visited him, Arthur, and

[1:36:49] his whole place, his whole venue out

[1:36:51] there uh several times. We we'd love the

[1:36:54] idea. So, um I will be making a motion

[1:36:57] to approve this if any comments.

[1:37:01] >> Any other comments from the board? We

[1:37:04] have a motion on the floor.

[1:37:05] >> Second.

[1:37:07] >> Take a roll call vote, please.

[1:37:08] >> Mr. McClung.

[1:37:09] >> I.

[1:37:10] >> Mr. Powers.

[1:37:10] >> Hi.

[1:37:11] >> Dr. Brown.

[1:37:12] >> I.

[1:37:12] >> Vice Chair Kenny.

[1:37:13] >> Hi.

[1:37:13] >> Chairman Denady.

[1:37:14] >> I. That passes 5. That'll bring us to

[1:37:16] item B.

[1:37:18] >> Item B is a resoning request in district

[1:37:20] one. And we'll turn things over again to

[1:37:22] Mr.

[1:37:24] Yes sir. Thank you.

[1:38:02] All righty. Uh EWN and Oddell resoning

[1:38:06] requests request to resone approximately

[1:38:08] 15.2 acres compromise of three parcels

[1:38:11] on the north side of Anderson Highway

[1:38:13] near Dorset Road from Commerce Center to

[1:38:15] A10 and Light Industrial. The request

[1:38:18] includes several bound line adjustments

[1:38:20] and replaces existing profers for one of

[1:38:22] the parcels from the 2024 resoning.

[1:38:28] Um as you can see here the the

[1:38:30] [clears throat] current parcels outlined

[1:38:31] on the left. The two front parcels are

[1:38:34] zoned Commerce Center with parcels with

[1:38:38] parcel two including Brewster's Ice Ice

[1:38:41] Cream Shop. The back parcel is zoned

[1:38:43] A10. So one you can see and two are

[1:38:45] Commerce Center. Three in the back is

[1:38:47] A10.

[1:38:51] And as you can see here in the future

[1:38:53] land use map, uh this area is squarely

[1:38:56] in the gateway business uh future land

[1:38:59] use designation.

[1:39:04] Uh this slide shows the intent of the

[1:39:06] reasonzoning and bound adjustment. The

[1:39:08] north portion of parcel 2 and the

[1:39:12] western portion of parcel 3 would be

[1:39:15] added to parcel one to create a single

[1:39:17] 13.3 acre parcel.

[1:39:20] The rest of parcel two which contains

[1:39:22] roosters would remain commerce center.

[1:39:26] So you can see two there. So you start

[1:39:29] with three, you end with three.

[1:39:32] The rest of [clears throat] parcel three

[1:39:33] which is included includes a restant

[1:39:35] would remain a 10. Again, three would

[1:39:37] remain a 10. It has a residence. Partial

[1:39:40] one would be splitz zoned with the

[1:39:42] southern 2.7 acres remaining commerce

[1:39:45] center and the northern 10.6 acres

[1:39:48] becoming light industrial. So front

[1:39:51] portion of parcel one you still maintain

[1:39:54] uh the commerce center.

[1:39:58] Here is uh a slide just kind of show you

[1:40:01] the development areas with the buffer.

[1:40:03] You have a buffer, the corridor buffer

[1:40:06] along uh Anderson Highway, 30-oot

[1:40:08] corridor buffer, buffer in between the

[1:40:11] adjoining properties. And then kind of

[1:40:13] that gray area shows you the development

[1:40:15] area.

[1:40:16] You can also see uh the connection that

[1:40:19] was part of the 2024 resoning going to

[1:40:22] what we recently had a proper amendment

[1:40:24] to clean zone to the property to the

[1:40:25] west. You can see that that connection

[1:40:28] uh being allowed to come through this

[1:40:30] property.

[1:40:35] This request does follow the previous

[1:40:37] resoning as stated 2024 for parcel one

[1:40:39] resone from A10 to Commerce Center. The

[1:40:42] current application retains the

[1:40:44] objectives from that resoning including

[1:40:46] shared access with adjacent properties.

[1:40:52] Uh as part of the current request, the

[1:40:55] existing road A to the right of sheets

[1:40:58] would be improved. You can see existing

[1:41:00] road A would be improved. Uh and you can

[1:41:03] see just sort of sort of sort of looking

[1:41:06] in the future how it could uh

[1:41:08] potentially be improved all the way to

[1:41:10] the back in the in the blue there on the north. And then you can also see

[1:41:15] where uh access road B, that's the

[1:41:17] green, would come uh through uh the

[1:41:20] subject property, connect to uh the

[1:41:23] property to the west, which is just off

[1:41:24] the screen. And you can also see

[1:41:26] obviously the existing right in right

[1:41:28] out uh that is on the property to the

[1:41:32] west of sheets.

[1:41:38] As [clears throat] noted the application

[1:41:39] contains a number of propers including

[1:41:41] that the boundary adjustments would be

[1:41:43] completed and reported prior to site

[1:41:44] plan submission.

[1:41:48] uh access management limits the the

[1:41:51] connections on on to 60 to the existing

[1:41:54] connections. Uh we also have a ultimate

[1:41:57] rideway pedestrian pedestrian easements.

[1:42:02] So uh the plan director, that's me,

[1:42:05] recommends approval of this resoning

[1:42:06] request with the profers as presented.

[1:42:09] Uh the planning commission voted 50 at

[1:42:11] their August 4th meeting to recommend

[1:42:13] approval.

[1:42:14] Following the planning commission me

[1:42:16] planning commission meeting the

[1:42:18] applicant agreed to profer the extension

[1:42:20] of the westbound acceleration lane going

[1:42:22] west on Anderson highway at the right in

[1:42:25] right out. So will that right in right

[1:42:27] out is uh we will look at the site plan

[1:42:30] to extend that uh into an acceleration

[1:42:32] lane and possibly that could also

[1:42:35] coordination with the clean sto folks

[1:42:36] just give a give an acceleration and a

[1:42:38] turn lane to the right there. So, I

[1:42:40] appreciate them uh being, you know,

[1:42:42] openminded to that potential and again

[1:42:44] that would be reviewed at the site plan

[1:42:46] and we could be DOT's comment. Um again,

[1:42:50] uh happy any questions. You have any

[1:42:52] questions on this this case? M

[1:42:55] >> go ahead.

[1:42:56] >> Hey, just just one lean. Um on the

[1:42:59] parcels that are Commerce Center, is

[1:43:02] there any proposed development at this

[1:43:05] time or are we going to wait, they're

[1:43:07] waiting for the resoning to happen

[1:43:08] before they deter?

[1:43:09] >> Um I I'll let the applicant answer that.

[1:43:13] [laughter]

[1:43:17] » Uh Dan Jones, 3901 Old River Trail, and

[1:43:22] I'm privileged to represent the owners

[1:43:24] of these three parcels on this this

[1:43:26] resoning. Uh the the buyer of this is is

[1:43:32] all all the the entire area uh the

[1:43:38] commerce center on the western parcel

[1:43:41] plus what is being reszone light

[1:43:43] industrial that will be one a single

[1:43:46] user.

[1:43:47] >> Okay. But I was just curious do we have

[1:43:49] any idea what kind of business or

[1:43:51] industry may be going on those parcels

[1:43:53] at this time?

[1:43:54] Uh yes, it seems like that's well known

[1:43:57] on the street, but I'm I'm sworn to

[1:43:59] secrecy, but

[1:44:00] >> I'm in the country, so I don't know.

[1:44:01] >> But but it's a uh a heavy equipment farm

[1:44:04] implement uh uh sales and service

[1:44:08] operation.

[1:44:09] >> Uh I might say maybe somewhat similar to

[1:44:12] Caterpillar, but not Caterpillar.

[1:44:15] >> Appreciate that, sir.

[1:44:16] >> Does that Does that clarify?

[1:44:18] >> Give their neighbors some give their

[1:44:19] neighbors some competition. There we go.

[1:44:21] Love it. Thank you. And and I might add

[1:44:23] I represent the the the owners on the

[1:44:26] reszoning uh tailong properties. We we

[1:44:30] do not represent them on the the sale of

[1:44:33] the property

[1:44:35] and uh [clears throat]

[1:44:38] all I number one I want to thank Lian uh

[1:44:42] county staff has been incredible and uh

[1:44:45] I wish Lian well as he moves to uh uh to

[1:44:49] Prince George County. I just sold a

[1:44:51] property there and uh I've let my

[1:44:53] friends know down there that they have a

[1:44:55] good man uh coming their way. Um

[1:44:59] just in summary, as you know, this is in

[1:45:01] the uh the county's designated gateway

[1:45:04] business district. Uh it's consistent

[1:45:07] therefore with the comp plan. Uh it uh

[1:45:10] is a coordinated employment and tax

[1:45:12] revenue development. Uh I think uh I

[1:45:16] think it's something that uh I'm proud

[1:45:17] of and I think you'll be proud of it

[1:45:19] also. Uh it improves interpartial

[1:45:22] connectivity uh to the parcel uh to the

[1:45:25] parcel not only the parcel to the west

[1:45:28] but it also connects to the parcel the

[1:45:31] quan parcel uh ju just west of that and

[1:45:35] uh it complies with the access

[1:45:38] management uh plan along route 60 uh and

[1:45:42] supports the county's long-term economic

[1:45:44] development uh goals. and I'd be happy

[1:45:48] to

[1:45:50] answer any questions or concerns you

[1:45:53] might have.

[1:45:54] >> Any questions for the applicant or

[1:45:55] staff?

[1:45:56] >> Uh, Mr. Chairman, I I would just like to

[1:45:58] uh Dan, commend you and the applicant

[1:46:00] for how you've treated the ingress and

[1:46:02] egress on 60. Um, that that's an

[1:46:06] accommodation I truly appreciate and I

[1:46:08] think it'll be far safer to do.

[1:46:10] >> We we heard your comments on the

[1:46:12] resoning two years ago.

[1:46:13] >> Okay, good.

[1:46:15] someone listens. So, [laughter]

[1:46:19] » any other questions?

[1:46:20] >> You you answered my question on

[1:46:21] interparial connectivity. So, thank you.

[1:46:25] >> Thank you.

[1:46:27] >> Any other questions?

[1:46:32] » We'll open it up to the public if

[1:46:34] anybody's got

[1:46:41] » Hello, my name is Carl Schwenderman.

[1:46:42] from 1727 Teresa Lane. Um, I would like

[1:46:46] to request that Powatan County ask the

[1:46:49] developer to physically build the

[1:46:51] five-foot sidewalk at the exact same

[1:46:53] time that they're going to build route.

[1:46:55] They're going to dig up Route 60 because

[1:46:57] under the proposal, they're going to dig

[1:46:58] up like a 500 foot section of Route 60

[1:47:00] and add a whole lane to it and a turn

[1:47:02] lane. And that's a big road that's a big

[1:47:05] road project. And what they could do is

[1:47:07] just ask the the contractor, the

[1:47:09] engineer when they build that since

[1:47:10] they're digging up Route 60 and they're

[1:47:12] going to do lane closures and all that

[1:47:14] mess. It would be cheaper just to ask

[1:47:16] the developer to include building the

[1:47:18] sidewalk between the granite place and across the front of the sheets at

[1:47:23] the exact same time they're going to dig

[1:47:24] up Route 60 because it would get the

[1:47:26] sidewalk settled and it would save money

[1:47:29] in the future versus trying to go out in

[1:47:31] the future and try to apply for grants

[1:47:33] and stuff. It would just be easier just

[1:47:34] to get the sidewalk built along with

[1:47:36] Route 60 being built right now.

[1:47:40] >> Thank you.

[1:47:41] Anybody else?

[1:47:44] >> Not seeing anybody. We'll close the

[1:47:46] public comment for that hearing and open

[1:47:48] up to board comments.

[1:47:56] Not hearing any comments. I'll make a

[1:47:57] motion to approve uh 02026-9.

[1:48:03] » Second.

[1:48:04] >> I'll take a roll call vote.

[1:48:06] >> Mr. McClung.

[1:48:06] >> I.

[1:48:07] >> Mr. Powers.

[1:48:07] >> Hi.

[1:48:08] >> Dr. Brown.

[1:48:09] >> Hi.

[1:48:09] >> Vice Chair Kenny.

[1:48:10] >> Hi.

[1:48:10] >> Chairman Dennady.

[1:48:11] >> I passes five. And that'll bring us to

[1:48:13] item C, throttle therapy.

[1:48:15] >> Item C is a conditional use permit

[1:48:17] request for a motor park in district 4.

[1:48:20] And Mr. Webs here. [clears throat]

[1:48:22] >> Uh before I go, this will be my last

[1:48:24] hearing here. So I just wanted to before

[1:48:27] we get going just really uh the last

[1:48:29] it's been a you know short but uh

[1:48:30] exciting tenure. We've done a lot in two

[1:48:32] and a half years and I really want to

[1:48:34] say to the board of supervisors I've

[1:48:36] worked with a lot of boards and I really

[1:48:38] mean it from the bottom of my heart.

[1:48:38] This is an excellent board and the staff

[1:48:41] feel supported by you and I just going

[1:48:44] into a big hearing there's no other

[1:48:45] folks I'd rather go into a hearing and I

[1:48:48] know your objective and you you want to

[1:48:50] do what's right for the county. So I

[1:48:51] appreciate the two and a half years and

[1:48:53] all of you on the board. So thank you.

[1:48:54] >> Thank you.

[1:48:58] [clears throat]

[1:49:01] » All right. Uh this is case 2603 CUP.

[1:49:04] Conditional use permit request for vital

[1:49:07] throttle therapy Amatic River LLC for

[1:49:09] Motorsports Park on 711 acres west of

[1:49:12] the intersection of Rocky Ford Road and

[1:49:15] River Estates Road.

[1:49:18] You can see here uh map of the subject

[1:49:21] properties. The proposal will allow the

[1:49:23] development operation of an off-road

[1:49:25] motorsports park on two parcels located

[1:49:28] along the appatics river which are zoned

[1:49:29] A10. Uh motorsports park is allowable by

[1:49:33] CUP in the A10 zoning district. Uh the

[1:49:36] property includes 2 and a half miles of

[1:49:38] frontage along the AMEX river and is

[1:49:40] predominantly wooded with the network of

[1:49:42] existing logging trails and roads.

[1:49:47] As you can see here from the future land

[1:49:49] use map, uh rural areas and some natural

[1:49:52] conservation on the southern portion of

[1:49:54] the property. Uh also you can see the

[1:49:57] current zoning agriculture 10 with some

[1:49:59] residential to the east.

[1:50:04] The [clears throat] development would be

[1:50:05] in conformance with the concept plan as

[1:50:08] shown here. Uh it would utilize existing

[1:50:11] logging roads and new trail segments to

[1:50:13] provide amenities including a

[1:50:15] motorsports track, youth riding area,

[1:50:18] ATV sidebyside area, single track

[1:50:21] trails, and extension of the current

[1:50:23] trail system along with the centralized

[1:50:25] parking staging and supporting

[1:50:28] facilities.

[1:50:29] There is a 300 foot buffer along the

[1:50:32] exterior property boundaries. The

[1:50:34] applicant is requesting to use an

[1:50:35] existing trails within the buffer to

[1:50:38] provide a pedestrian and bicycle access

[1:50:40] to the aimatics river.

[1:50:48] [clears throat]

[1:50:49] One of the issues has come up related to

[1:50:51] the property is the status of access to

[1:50:53] the property. The property is currently

[1:50:55] accessed from Rocky Ford Road via River

[1:50:57] States River Estates Road. From the

[1:51:00] terminus of River States Road, a 1400

[1:51:02] foot private access road leads to the

[1:51:05] property and crosses a bridge over

[1:51:06] Skipper Creek. The private road is

[1:51:09] governed by a 1985 private road

[1:51:11] agreement and a 1996 recorded plat for

[1:51:14] the River Estate subdivision, including

[1:51:16] a 50-foot buffer subject to public

[1:51:18] dedication for the future extension of

[1:51:21] the River Estates Road as a public

[1:51:23] roadway. A private road application was

[1:51:26] approved by the plan commission 2001

[1:51:28] related to a planned 52 lot residential

[1:51:31] subdivision on the subject property that

[1:51:34] the pro subdivision includes a primary

[1:51:37] public access road extending from the

[1:51:39] end of Riverstates Road into the

[1:51:41] property using the 50-foot buffer.

[1:51:48] Key CUP [clears throat] conditions. In

[1:51:50] the In the event the board is inclined

[1:51:52] to grant the CUP request, staff has put

[1:51:54] together a number of recommended

[1:51:55] conditions. These includes restrictions

[1:51:58] on the number of riders and vehicles,

[1:52:00] restrictions on the days and hours of

[1:52:02] operation, and no more than three

[1:52:04] special events per year.

[1:52:10] And there are also requirements to

[1:52:12] improve the existing access address fire

[1:52:15] and rescue standards and minimize

[1:52:16] additional land disturbance. Namely, the

[1:52:19] existing private road leading to the

[1:52:21] property would have to be upgraded to a

[1:52:23] public roadway using again the 50-ft

[1:52:25] buffer area subject to public

[1:52:27] dedication. A new bridge would need to

[1:52:30] be constructed and was an additional

[1:52:31] road improvements within the property.

[1:52:36] No motorsport activities could begin

[1:52:38] until a site plan is approved and all

[1:52:40] required improvements have have been

[1:52:43] made. The applicant must obtain site

[1:52:45] plan approval within 12 months of board

[1:52:48] approval and the cup would be valid for

[1:52:50] 5 years after the site plan approval

[1:52:52] with renewal renewal required after

[1:52:55] that.

[1:52:57] Again, I want to note that the

[1:52:59] conditional use permit review standards

[1:53:05] in the zoning ordinance and they've

[1:53:06] discussed them in the staff report.

[1:53:11] Uh the planning director recommends

[1:53:13] denialist of the C request. The planning

[1:53:16] commission voted 5 to zero at their

[1:53:18] August 4th meeting to recommend denial

[1:53:21] because the property is located adjacent

[1:53:23] to the AppMax River AFD. state code

[1:53:25] requires the ex the existence of a AFD

[1:53:28] shall be taken into account regarding

[1:53:30] land use planning decisions. The

[1:53:33] county's AFD advisory committee has

[1:53:35] recommended denial of this request and a

[1:53:37] report for from the AFD is included in

[1:53:40] your agenda packet. Following the plan

[1:53:42] commission meeting, the applicant

[1:53:44] requests the the addition of a walking

[1:53:47] and biking trail in the 300 foot buffer

[1:53:49] at the northern end of the property,

[1:53:51] which was included on a previous

[1:53:53] provided concept plan.

[1:53:56] As a result, staff has updated the

[1:53:59] concept plan and adjusted the occupancy

[1:54:01] limits on profer number 11 to allow up

[1:54:04] to 125 personal vehicles instead of 100

[1:54:07] and limit and the limit of 150 riders a

[1:54:11] day has not been changed.

[1:54:14] With that, do you have any questions?

[1:54:18] >> Any questions for staff?

[1:54:20] >> Mr. Chairman,

[1:54:21] >> go ahead.

[1:54:23] So, Legan, on item

[1:54:25] 7B, public road dedication,

[1:54:29] um I'm assuming that public road has to

[1:54:32] go from the entrance all the way to

[1:54:35] where the motorcycles would unload and

[1:54:38] ride. Correct.

[1:54:40] >> To to the property, I think within the

[1:54:42] proximity of the parking area,

[1:54:45] >> right?

[1:54:45] >> Which would basically be at the top of

[1:54:47] the hill.

[1:54:48] >> Correct. And if you didn't have any if

[1:54:50] you didn't have 50 feet to play with,

[1:54:52] then you couldn't put a public road in

[1:54:53] there. Correct.

[1:54:55] >> Well,

[1:54:56] >> I mean, I've driven the road.

[1:54:57] >> Right. Right. I mean, they do have

[1:54:59] >> when you get up towards where you're

[1:55:00] going to park on the property, there's

[1:55:02] not 50 ft.

[1:55:03] >> I think the the fit the the fe simple

[1:55:06] pipes in comes out to Skipper Creek and

[1:55:09] it's probably at least 60 70 feet of of

[1:55:13] land that goes all the way back to their

[1:55:15] property and it, you know, widens out.

[1:55:17] So I I believe there's plenty of of of property to put 50 foot. Now the

[1:55:22] road doesn't have to be 50 foot.

[1:55:23] >> Well, my truck's not 50 ft wide and it

[1:55:25] barely fit on the road up to the

[1:55:26] property. I'm just saying if the public

[1:55:28] roads got to go all the way up there,

[1:55:30] that would involve a substantial amount

[1:55:32] of money, wouldn't you think?

[1:55:34] >> Absolutely.

[1:55:35] >> Okay. Thank you.

[1:55:36] >> Yep.

[1:55:37] >> I have a question. As I understand it, they could not

[1:55:42] operate until that road was taken care

[1:55:44] of. Is that true? That's correct. It had

[1:55:47] to be constructed

[1:55:50] » there. Is there more than one entrance

[1:55:53] egress?

[1:55:54] >> You know, I I believe for the

[1:55:56] subdivision there was discussions of an

[1:55:59] ingress. I forget the road to the to the

[1:56:01] west, but maybe someone from the public

[1:56:03] knows better than me, but it for a

[1:56:06] subdivision over 50 or more, you have to

[1:56:07] have a second egress. I don't know if

[1:56:09] that's why that subdivision was never

[1:56:11] developed. Uh but uh again I mean they

[1:56:14] could have reduced it to maybe a 49 but

[1:56:16] the current code does you know for a

[1:56:17] subdivision does require a second egress

[1:56:19] but I'm not really too familiar

[1:56:21] with the past conversations. Uh I think

[1:56:24] fire rescue is comfortable with they

[1:56:26] would prefer a second egress but they're

[1:56:28] comfortable with the compromise that

[1:56:30] building the the actual public road to

[1:56:32] the property would would be a great um

[1:56:37] help and obviously access in general. It

[1:56:39] would it would improve the bridge that

[1:56:41] cannot maintain the weight of a piece of

[1:56:44] fire apparatus.

[1:56:44] >> It would have to be built to VOTE

[1:56:46] standards as well.

[1:56:47] >> Was was there was there a VOTE study

[1:56:50] completed for this project?

[1:56:52] >> I mean, they gave us review comments. Uh

[1:56:54] that's in your packet. We've we've

[1:56:56] talked to them on numerous occasions,

[1:56:59] met with them. Uh so, you know, it's a new road. So that that's a whole

[1:57:04] process and engineering and surveys and

[1:57:08] that's that's quite a quite a process to

[1:57:10] go through but uh VOTE does it all the

[1:57:12] time and we we we do it too. Uh but so

[1:57:16] that would definitely um you know take a

[1:57:18] lot of review environmental review

[1:57:20] engineering new bridge. So it's it's a

[1:57:22] substantial effort to build a road all

[1:57:24] the way back there for sure. I guess a

[1:57:26] part of my question too is not saying

[1:57:28] every rider would, but when you have

[1:57:31] this many bikes, side by sides,

[1:57:33] whatever, you're also talking trailers.

[1:57:35] >> Yes, sir.

[1:57:36] >> What is a what does a road what can road

[1:57:39] handle? What does the surrounding roads

[1:57:41] handle? What happens if a school bus,

[1:57:43] fire engine, somebody else uh piece of

[1:57:46] farming equipment meets one of those

[1:57:48] trailers on one of those roads back

[1:57:49] there? Well, if they get to a site plan,

[1:57:52] that would be discussed. And part of

[1:57:55] what could what might need to happen is

[1:57:57] at Rocky Ford there that might need to

[1:57:59] be widened as well, shouldered at the at

[1:58:03] the entrance at the entrance. I mean,

[1:58:05] that's quite possible uh that that would

[1:58:07] be required.

[1:58:08] Um, but as far as a standard, I don't

[1:58:11] know, 20 foot road with the base, I

[1:58:14] mean, that's that would be adequate for

[1:58:17] pulling a trailer. I don't know if the

[1:58:19] radiuses at um if the radiuses and uh

[1:58:23] again we haven't seen an engineer site

[1:58:25] plan at Rocky Ford are really that great

[1:58:28] right now. So that would maybe have to

[1:58:29] be improvement.

[1:58:31] >> Thanks. Any other questions for staff?

[1:58:35] Excellent. We'll open up to the

[1:58:36] applicant now. Thank you.

[1:58:40] >> Thank you.

[1:58:40] >> Yeah. Okay. Thank you. [laughter]

[1:58:55] Good evening, Chairman Denady, members

[1:58:58] of the board, county staff, and

[1:59:01] community.

[1:59:03] Thank you for the opportunity to speak

[1:59:04] with you tonight. We are deeply grateful

[1:59:07] to be here and for the privilege to

[1:59:08] invest in and become members of this

[1:59:10] community. My name is Scott McAdoo. I'm

[1:59:12] a police first responder. My partner

[1:59:14] Alex is a federal law enforcement

[1:59:16] officer and Iraq veteran. Between the

[1:59:18] two of us, we are husbands, fathers, and

[1:59:21] parents to five children. Yes, we

[1:59:24] currently live in Annapolis, Maryland,

[1:59:26] but our focus, our investment, and our

[1:59:28] passion are right here in Virginia. Our

[1:59:31] journey started quite simply. We fell in

[1:59:33] love with off-road riding vehicles, and

[1:59:36] our families and our families fell in

[1:59:38] love with it, too. But we quickly ran

[1:59:40] into a major obstacle. It was nearly

[1:59:43] impossible to find a private, safe,

[1:59:46] high-quality place for our families to

[1:59:48] ride together. So, we took a leap of

[1:59:51] faith. We scraped together our personal

[1:59:53] savings, took out several loans, and

[1:59:56] purchased a 93 acre property in Orange,

[1:59:58] Virginia, right next to Lake Anna.

[2:00:02] Given what Alex and I see every day in

[2:00:04] our line of work, we named it Throttle

[2:00:06] Therapy Lake Anna. For us, getting out

[2:00:09] on dirt bikes, ATVs, side by sides, and

[2:00:12] target shooting wasn't just recreation.

[2:00:15] It was a way to decompress, disconnect

[2:00:17] from the bad things out in the world,

[2:00:20] and reconnect with our kids.

[2:00:23] We decided to share our journey journey

[2:00:25] on social media, turning the property

[2:00:27] into a private Airbnb style vacation

[2:00:29] rental for riding and target shooting.

[2:00:33] We didn't have all the answers. We just

[2:00:35] had two months of cash reserves and we

[2:00:37] made plenty of mistakes along the way.

[2:00:40] But failure is a great teacher and every

[2:00:42] setback taught us how to build a better,

[2:00:45] safer, and more structured operation.

[2:00:49] Through those lessons, we learned very

[2:00:51] quickly that there was a massive demand

[2:00:53] for outdoor recreation in central

[2:00:54] Virginia and far too far too few places

[2:00:58] to go. Because Lake Anna was p was a

[2:01:01] private rental centered around a large

[2:01:03] farmhouse, our phone started ringing

[2:01:06] continuously with daily inquiries. We

[2:01:09] quickly realized a pattern. Not every

[2:01:12] family needed or could afford a big

[2:01:14] farmhouse. Many simply wanted a safe

[2:01:16] place to ride for the day, bring their

[2:01:18] camper, or stay in a small cabin for a

[2:01:21] night or two. Families were desperate

[2:01:23] for a flexible, managed park option. To

[2:01:27] solve that challenge and give family

[2:01:28] those options, we went on the hunt for a

[2:01:31] larger property. That search brought us

[2:01:34] here to Powatan County, where we fell in

[2:01:36] love with two things. The incredible

[2:01:38] rural character of the community and the

[2:01:41] proximity to Richmond. Our first target

[2:01:44] was a 1400 acre tract off Brackets Ben

[2:01:46] Road. We loved how isolated and secluded

[2:01:49] it was. But when we visited, we found a

[2:01:53] critical flaw. Access.

[2:01:56] Reaching that site meant driving

[2:01:58] directly through a neighborhood, not

[2:02:00] around it like the property we are

[2:02:02] discussing here tonight on Rocky Ford

[2:02:04] Road. To make matters worse, from our

[2:02:07] calculations, the driveway easement ran

[2:02:10] through a neighbor's garage and fence

[2:02:12] line. We knew right away that driving

[2:02:15] through a neighborhood like that was

[2:02:16] going to be a huge challenge with the

[2:02:18] community. Before moving forward on the

[2:02:21] property, we knew we needed county

[2:02:23] support. My very first call to Palian

[2:02:26] County was to board supervisor Mark

[2:02:28] Kenny. Mr. Kenny, I don't know if you

[2:02:31] remember that call, but I certainly do.

[2:02:33] I remember how excited you were about

[2:02:35] bringing a structured outdoor

[2:02:37] powersports park to Powatan.

[2:02:39] Mr. Kenny connected us with M. Mrs.

[2:02:42] Roxanne Serno, your director of economic

[2:02:44] development. Mrs. Serno shared that

[2:02:48] excitement. She saw the vision, families

[2:02:51] visiting Powatan, staying in local

[2:02:53] lodging, spending money with local

[2:02:55] vendors, and enjoying outdoor

[2:02:57] recreation.

[2:02:59] All while preserving Powatan Powatan's

[2:03:02] rural landscape without placing demands

[2:03:04] on your school system or your taxpayer

[2:03:07] dollars. When we hit a legislative

[2:03:09] hurdle discovering that a power sports

[2:03:11] park

[2:03:13] parks were not permitted on A10

[2:03:15] agricultural land, the board took

[2:03:18] action. While the planning commission

[2:03:20] voted against the change, you, the board

[2:03:23] of supervisors, stepped up and amended

[2:03:25] the code to make outdoor recreation

[2:03:27] possible on A10 land. We thank you

[2:03:29] sincerely for that leadership.

[2:03:32] Eventually, the 1400 acre opportunity

[2:03:34] fell through and for a moment, we

[2:03:36] thought our journey with Powatan was

[2:03:38] over. But then we connected with the

[2:03:40] owners of the 700 acre property off

[2:03:42] Rocky Ford Road, Throttle Therapy

[2:03:44] Appamatics River and Powatan Powersports

[2:03:47] Park. The 700 acre site is remarkably

[2:03:50] secluded

[2:03:52] with very few residents nearby unlike

[2:03:55] Brackets Bend. Traffic drives around the

[2:03:58] neighborhood rather than straight

[2:03:59] through it. Does it have access

[2:04:01] challenges? Yes. There's a shared

[2:04:04] driveway and an older bridge, though.

[2:04:06] That bridge is currently driven across

[2:04:08] every day by members of the community

[2:04:10] and patrons of a local public wine

[2:04:13] vineyard. Just two days after we

[2:04:15] submitted our conditional use permit

[2:04:17] application, chairman Dennady ran a poll

[2:04:20] in P in the Powatan and the no Facebook

[2:04:22] group regarding the proposed park. I

[2:04:25] recall that over 70% of respondents

[2:04:29] supported our park, people wanted this.

[2:04:32] Yet even with such support for our park,

[2:04:35] something shifted. Something changed and

[2:04:40] momentum with county leadership started

[2:04:42] to cool.

[2:04:44] To address local concerns, the county

[2:04:46] recommended we host a community meeting.

[2:04:49] It wasn't legally required and the

[2:04:51] county staff helped select 25 neighbors

[2:04:54] who would be most directly impacted. We

[2:04:57] purposely kept this off of our social

[2:04:59] media. We didn't post a single word

[2:05:01] about Powatan to our followers because

[2:05:04] we wanted to speak directly with those

[2:05:06] 25 neighbors first. We sent out 25

[2:05:09] letters, but words spread like wildfire

[2:05:12] and nearly 90 people showed up on the

[2:05:14] very first day of our two-day meeting.

[2:05:17] Unfortunately, many of their minds were

[2:05:19] already made up before we even opened

[2:05:21] our mouths. As wild accusations and

[2:05:23] misinformation began to circulate, we

[2:05:26] turned to our social media channels to

[2:05:28] share the actual facts and set the

[2:05:29] record straight. But it became apparent

[2:05:33] that no matter what facts we presented,

[2:05:35] no matter what evidence we showed or how

[2:05:37] directly we answered their concerns, the

[2:05:39] oppos opposition simply refused to

[2:05:41] listen. They didn't like our answers.

[2:05:44] They didn't want the facts. And in their

[2:05:46] eyes, we were always wrong, no matter

[2:05:48] what solution we brought to the table.

[2:05:51] Since then, the requirements placed on

[2:05:53] us have only grown. When we included the

[2:05:57] on-site lodging option in our initial

[2:05:59] application, which is a key driver for

[2:06:02] local tax revenue and essential for

[2:06:04] those families wanting small cabins or

[2:06:06] camper spots, county staff asked us to

[2:06:10] remove it from our application. Then

[2:06:14] after us strip after asking us to strip

[2:06:17] lodging out, the county turned around

[2:06:21] and told us that our park wouldn't

[2:06:23] generate much revenue.

[2:06:25] On top of that, we required to build and

[2:06:27] replace a brand new road up to full VOTE

[2:06:31] standards, a bridge that neighbors and a

[2:06:34] public vineyard say is unsafe. Yet, no

[2:06:37] one else in the community is stepping up

[2:06:39] to fund or repair.

[2:06:41] Despite these despite these moving

[2:06:43] goalposts, we have continued to look for

[2:06:45] ways to give back and align with Powatan

[2:06:49] County's long-term vision. We read the

[2:06:52] Powatan County strategic plan with

[2:06:54] highlights which highlights goals for

[2:06:57] public access to the Appamatics River as

[2:07:00] well as expanding expanded public hiking

[2:07:03] and pedal bike trails.

[2:07:06] We knew we know that the community

[2:07:09] members have expressed their desire for

[2:07:11] more free public public hiking trails

[2:07:14] and we want to help the community

[2:07:15] achieve that goal, the county achieve

[2:07:18] that goal. If the permit, if this permit

[2:07:21] is approved, we are proposing to

[2:07:23] dedicate a public trail

[2:07:26] within our buffer zone along adjoining

[2:07:28] property lines, creating a lasting asset

[2:07:31] for non-motorized public recreation in

[2:07:33] Powatan.

[2:07:34] It's frustrating when members of the

[2:07:36] opposition tell us, "We support riding,

[2:07:40] just not this location."

[2:07:42] Some of those same individuals have been

[2:07:44] so determined to see us fail that

[2:07:46] they've even begun attacking our private

[2:07:48] farm in Orange County. An action that

[2:07:51] does nothing except eliminate the very

[2:07:54] places families rely on to ride safely.

[2:07:57] and our opponents. If our opponents

[2:08:00] truly support outdoor recreation, we

[2:08:03] would welcome the same passion and

[2:08:06] energy being channeled into helping us

[2:08:09] find a solution we can all agree on

[2:08:13] rather than tearing down private family

[2:08:15] businesses.

[2:08:16] Members of the board, here's a clear

[2:08:18] choice for you before you tonight. The

[2:08:20] current land owners build subdivisions

[2:08:22] for a living. By right, this property

[2:08:24] can be developed into a residential

[2:08:26] subdivision up to 88 lots, permanently

[2:08:29] changing the landscape and causing its

[2:08:31] own environmental challenges. A

[2:08:34] subdivision brings permanent traffic,

[2:08:36] strain on infrastructure, and heavy

[2:08:38] financial burdens on public services and

[2:08:41] schools. However, the owners have agreed

[2:08:44] to to allow us to lease this land for up

[2:08:48] to 15 years. This is up to a 15-year

[2:08:52] lease. This up to 15-year lease provides

[2:08:54] a vital bridge. It preserves 700 acres

[2:08:57] of open rural land while development

[2:09:00] gradually pushes west from Richmond. It

[2:09:03] supports your strategic plan. It funds

[2:09:05] local infrastructure repairs. It gives

[2:09:08] kids and families a safe, controlled

[2:09:11] place to enjoy outdoor recreation,

[2:09:14] all while possibly delaying dense

[2:09:17] residential development until the county

[2:09:19] is truly ready for it. Alex and I are

[2:09:22] first responders, veterans, fathers, and

[2:09:24] small business owners who believe in

[2:09:26] doing the thing things the right way. We

[2:09:29] look forward to investing in and

[2:09:31] becoming members of this community, and

[2:09:33] we respectfully ask for your approval of

[2:09:35] our conditional use permit tonight.

[2:09:38] Finally, I wanted to take a moment to

[2:09:39] deeply thank all of our supporters.

[2:09:42] To everyone who has shown so much

[2:09:44] passion for this project and taken the

[2:09:46] time to email the board to voice to

[2:09:49] voice your support for throttle therapy.

[2:09:53] We hear you. We appreciate you and we

[2:09:56] would wouldn't be standing here without

[2:09:58] you. So, thank you. I'd also

[2:10:00] specifically like to thank Mr. living

[2:10:02] and web for all his hard work throughout

[2:10:04] this process and wish him the absolute

[2:10:06] best moving forward. Thank you for your

[2:10:09] time, your leadership and your

[2:10:11] consideration.

[2:10:13] >> Thank you. What uh what questions we

[2:10:15] have for the applicant?

[2:10:18] » I have a question,

[2:10:19] >> please.

[2:10:20] >> So, you are willing to bring a road up

[2:10:23] to VOTE standards and rebuild a bridge

[2:10:27] on land that you are leasing?

[2:10:30] >> That would be Yes, ma'am. That would be

[2:10:31] one of the CR requirements. In order to

[2:10:33] access to open up, we would be required

[2:10:35] to build the road up to VOTE standards

[2:10:37] and build a new bridge. That is correct.

[2:10:42] >> But you you still don't own the land.

[2:10:44] >> That's correct.

[2:10:45] >> Okay.

[2:10:47] >> That is a big condition of our approval

[2:10:50] that that access.

[2:10:54] » I didn't see an economic impact um

[2:10:58] report in the packet.

[2:11:01] Um and we have heard that this would

[2:11:05] help Palatan

[2:11:08] um generate revenues for

[2:11:13] businesses and lodging.

[2:11:16] >> We don't have any lodging.

[2:11:22] » So this is build it and they're come.

[2:11:24] So, initially with our application, we

[2:11:27] when talking to Miss Miss Serno, we

[2:11:30] wanted to add a campground and bring in

[2:11:32] parkstyle

[2:11:34] semi-permanent cabins to bring in the

[2:11:37] lodging.

[2:11:37] >> You don't have any water coming in there

[2:11:39] or any sewer.

[2:11:40] >> That is correct. We would have to work

[2:11:41] that. We would have to

[2:11:43] >> I guess you would.

[2:11:44] >> We would.

[2:11:44] >> Yeah,

[2:11:45] >> we would. Okay.

[2:11:46] >> And and initially that's what our plan

[2:11:48] was. And then county staff had asked us,

[2:11:50] they said, "Why don't we, why don't we

[2:11:52] just kind of get in there and let the

[2:11:53] dust settle and then we can we can kind

[2:11:55] of figure that part out." So, that was

[2:11:56] one thing that the planning commission,

[2:11:58] they mentioned that, well, we don't

[2:12:00] quite see the revenue on that. However,

[2:12:03] we wanted to bring that with the lodging

[2:12:05] because my understanding is we don't have a hotel or a motel here in

[2:12:09] the county. We wanted to help with that,

[2:12:11] but we were asked to take that out and

[2:12:13] remove it.

[2:12:14] >> Okay. I still didn't see an economic

[2:12:15] impact. What do you think you would

[2:12:18] generate or the county?

[2:12:20] >> Are you looking for a specific what?

[2:12:23] >> I'm assuming as a business person that

[2:12:27] you have determined a return on

[2:12:30] investment.

[2:12:31] >> Mhm. [clears throat]

[2:12:32] >> So you don't lose your shirt.

[2:12:34] >> Sure. Um, and part of that would be

[2:12:37] money that would have to come to the

[2:12:40] county in terms of taxable income.

[2:12:46] In your estimate,

[2:12:48] what is coming to the county? If you

[2:12:51] haven't gotten there, that's fine. I

[2:12:52] just I keep hearing economic impact will

[2:12:55] be positive.

[2:12:58] And I'll be darned if I could find that

[2:12:59] in this packet.

[2:13:01] >> Yes, ma'am.

[2:13:02] >> It's just a practical question. If

[2:13:04] you're not there, you're not there.

[2:13:05] That's fine.

[2:13:07] >> We are not there because we weren't we

[2:13:09] were asked to remove the lodging. We

[2:13:11] were asked to remove the lodging from

[2:13:12] the application. We wanted to do that.

[2:13:14] We wanted to bring in those revenue

[2:13:16] dollars because we understand that would

[2:13:17] be a vast driver for that.

[2:13:19] >> Okay. So, that is something you bringing

[2:13:22] in,

[2:13:23] >> excuse me,

[2:13:23] >> how many lodgings were you bringing in?

[2:13:26] >> How many? We wanted to have up to Alex

[2:13:28] up to 20. Up

[2:13:29] >> up to 20.

[2:13:30] little cabins.

[2:13:35] No more questions.

[2:13:38] >> Thank you.

[2:13:38] You're welcome.

[2:13:39] >> Any uh any questions?

[2:13:43] » Scott, I'm um not a writer. Um my life

[2:13:47] I've been a fireman. So,

[2:13:49] >> thank you for your service.

[2:13:50] >> Yeah. I want to give you u

[2:13:52] [clears throat and cough]

[2:13:54] you use the word therapy in your in your

[2:13:56] name. Can you dive into that a little

[2:13:58] bit for me?

[2:14:00] >> Yes, sir. So,

[2:14:02] I've been a I've been a police officer

[2:14:04] for coming up on 15 years now. Alex was

[2:14:07] an Iraq war veteran.

[2:14:10] During during my time in law

[2:14:12] enforcement, I've seen some really bad

[2:14:14] things. Um, I've had to notify a lot of

[2:14:16] make a lot of bad visits to notify

[2:14:19] family members have passed, children

[2:14:21] being hurt, killed, messy suicides,

[2:14:25] and that stuff. I thought I was immune

[2:14:28] to that. And there's things that still

[2:14:30] stick with me mentally,

[2:14:32] things that that haunted me for a while.

[2:14:36] And then I talked to my wife about this

[2:14:39] and I said, you know, this is this is

[2:14:41] bugging me a little bit. And every time

[2:14:42] I see certain things or I go past a

[2:14:44] certain road, it reminds me of those bad

[2:14:46] images.

[2:14:48] Well, then along came CO. Along came CO.

[2:14:51] We were all locked down. We couldn't do

[2:14:53] anything.

[2:14:55] What we knew to do was let's get outside

[2:14:57] and get some fresh air.

[2:14:59] So, Alex lives across the street from

[2:15:01] me. Other first responders, military

[2:15:05] members, business owners.

[2:15:07] We went out, we bought dirt bikes, we

[2:15:10] fell in love with riding. We went

[2:15:12] outside, enjoyed the outdoors. We kind

[2:15:14] of started a little joke and it just

[2:15:16] was, "Hey, let's go get some throttle

[2:15:18] therapy today."

[2:15:20] And when I ride, I found something that

[2:15:22] I truly love. And I found so many other

[2:15:25] we've connected with so many other great

[2:15:26] individuals that when we ride and when I

[2:15:29] ride I think about just two things I

[2:15:32] think about it can tune it all out and I

[2:15:34] can think about riding that bike and not

[2:15:36] smacking the next tree

[2:15:38] and I absolutely love it and it's just

[2:15:41] something that has brought me so much

[2:15:44] help and and just an opportunity to get

[2:15:47] out enjoy the rural country and and it's

[2:15:50] unfortunate because I know We see as a

[2:15:54] long career in the in the fire

[2:15:55] department and the police department, we

[2:15:57] see so many bad images over and over. And there's and I I can't quote

[2:16:02] the studies, but we there's so many

[2:16:04] studies those those images, they just

[2:16:06] slowly cause a little tear in our in our

[2:16:09] brains. And and that's and so it it it

[2:16:13] really just kind of started as a little

[2:16:14] hey, let's go get some throttle therapy.

[2:16:16] And then talking to

[2:16:18] other guests and visiting the other

[2:16:21] tracks. I like to do a lot of interviews

[2:16:23] and I just ask them, you know, what what

[2:16:25] is it about riding that you really enjoy

[2:16:28] and the answers are all very similar as

[2:16:30] I mentioned and and and I thank you for

[2:16:32] the opportunity to explain that.

[2:16:35] >> Thank you.

[2:16:37] >> Any other questions,

[2:16:38] >> M? Go ahead.

[2:16:39] >> So, I do have one other question. You

[2:16:40] made a couple comments about

[2:16:41] misinformation. 100% agree with

[2:16:44] everything that you said about me and

[2:16:46] being excited because when I looked at

[2:16:47] that other track of land, there wasn't a

[2:16:49] house anywhere I could find.

[2:16:51] >> Mhm. So, I'm really curious because from

[2:16:53] what I understand, the deal fell through

[2:16:54] because the landowner wanted to keep

[2:16:56] that property for land credits. Not that

[2:16:59] you guys had easement access or anything

[2:17:02] like that because when I looked at the

[2:17:04] road to that property, I didn't see it

[2:17:06] go through a house, neighborhood, or

[2:17:07] anything. That was the reason why I got

[2:17:09] so excited about it.

[2:17:11] >> So, I I'm really confused as to why all

[2:17:14] of a sudden you're saying access to that

[2:17:16] property was an issue when there wasn't

[2:17:18] a neighborhood or structures anywhere

[2:17:20] around it. So, if I recall, there were

[2:17:22] two accesses access points to that.

[2:17:24] There was the one access road right

[2:17:25] through the neighborhood and it really

[2:17:27] bottlenecked on that gravel road that

[2:17:29] would I guess you would call the main

[2:17:31] access to that. And we went out actually

[2:17:34] took some measurements with the tape

[2:17:35] measure and the and their fence was

[2:17:38] there, their trees were there, and my

[2:17:40] understanding it was a 25 was it a 50ft

[2:17:43] easement, Alex?

[2:17:43] >> I think it was 25, but at the smallest

[2:17:46] point there's about 16 ft.

[2:17:48] >> It was it was very tight. CC road.

[2:17:50] There's another CC road.

[2:17:52] >> Well, because the road I looked at that

[2:17:53] went to the property, there weren't any

[2:17:54] structures around it

[2:17:55] >> there.

[2:17:56] >> On the plat I looked at when you guys

[2:17:57] first contacted me, when I looked at the

[2:17:59] property and discussed it with the

[2:18:00] planning department, I didn't see any

[2:18:02] neighborhoods. I didn't see any houses.

[2:18:03] Didn't see anything. That's one of the

[2:18:05] reasons why I was excited about that

[2:18:07] parcel because there weren't 90

[2:18:09] neighbors living around it. [snorts]

[2:18:11] >> We love the parcel as well. We did. And

[2:18:14] when we came in and met with the realer,

[2:18:16] we initially, our first thought was, "Oh

[2:18:18] my gosh." and how we came in and brought

[2:18:19] it was it was tight. It was tight. And

[2:18:21] the gentleman's I the the neighbor's

[2:18:23] garage was right there and I and forgive

[2:18:25] me not sure which which access point you

[2:18:28] access because I know there's on the far

[2:18:29] side there was more of a utility type

[2:18:32] access on the far side but that that for

[2:18:36] us looking at the campground and that

[2:18:38] just didn't seem very very viable for us

[2:18:40] that option to have that. We wanted to

[2:18:42] come in through that one access that

[2:18:44] really bottlenecked and appeared to be a

[2:18:46] big challenge. I wish I had an I I

[2:18:48] forgive me this is disrespectful of me

[2:18:50] for not having a map up of that. We had moved on from that property and

[2:18:54] is something we were very excited about

[2:18:56] and unfortunately it fell through.

[2:18:59] >> Okay. Thank you. Any other questions

[2:19:02] before you open it up? Thank you, Scott.

[2:19:04] Alex, appreciate you.

[2:19:05] >> Thank you. [clears throat]

[2:19:07] >> All right. Just as a uh just as a

[2:19:09] reminder here folks,

[2:19:12] um just want to make sure that speakers

[2:19:14] that are coming up uh shall direct their

[2:19:16] comments to the board as a whole. Uh not

[2:19:19] any individual members uh any individual

[2:19:22] members of the audience.

[2:19:24] They shall refrain from using any uh

[2:19:26] criticizing

[2:19:28] any individuals or groups using vulgar

[2:19:30] language, rude or threatening language.

[2:19:32] All persons in attendance shall observe

[2:19:34] the board's decorum policy and conduct

[2:19:36] themselves in a professional manner and

[2:19:38] demonstrate respect for others

[2:19:41] and is not disruptive. Applause or

[2:19:43] outburst dur during or after speaker's

[2:19:46] comments is not appropriate and violates

[2:19:48] the board's decorum policy. I'm asking

[2:19:51] you all to please please please follow

[2:19:54] that. We have folks that are here that

[2:19:56] are passionate. And I can tell that

[2:19:58] you're passionate. When I look at the

[2:20:00] number of emails in my inbox for both

[2:20:04] support and opposition, when you total

[2:20:06] them together,

[2:20:08] a majority of us have have spent uh

[2:20:11] three and a half years here, over three

[2:20:13] and a half years. When you look at data

[2:20:15] centers, every housing project that's

[2:20:17] come up, anything that that firearms,

[2:20:20] anything that that just brings people to

[2:20:21] the table, put them all together. It

[2:20:24] still doesn't equal the total number of

[2:20:26] emails that we've received both in

[2:20:27] opposition and support for this project.

[2:20:30] So I beg you, please give people the

[2:20:34] respect to speak and feel welcome to

[2:20:37] speak at this podium. Please come

[2:20:39] forward when you're willing.

[2:20:47] » Good even [clears throat] Good evening

[2:20:50] members of the board. My name is Mor

[2:20:52] Weatherhead. I'm also a paramedic. My

[2:20:55] idea of therapy is my 10 acres out in

[2:20:58] the country that I bought purposely to

[2:21:01] have a quiet place where I could retire.

[2:21:05] Our community has now spent eight months

[2:21:07] trapped in this manufactured crisis.

[2:21:10] They've never had a road.

[2:21:13] There is no way to make that private

[2:21:15] easement

[2:21:17] into a public road. Never in the history

[2:21:20] of Powen County has there been a hostile

[2:21:23] taking of a private deed easement.

[2:21:28] To turn that private easement into a

[2:21:29] state road would require the signatures

[2:21:32] of everyone holding a deed.

[2:21:35] Yeah, the developer owns the underlying

[2:21:37] dirt and sections of the road, but the

[2:21:39] state requires that the whole road be

[2:21:41] dedicated. And owning the underlying

[2:21:43] dirt doesn't take away the rights of the

[2:21:45] deed easement owners.

[2:21:48] That private easement crosses the back

[2:21:51] of my property.

[2:21:53] That 50-foot buffer on my property

[2:21:56] is from 30 years ago.

[2:22:00] That same developer who 5 years later

[2:22:03] bought that 711 acres, put that on my

[2:22:07] plat.

[2:22:08] It's not even legal. He didn't own that

[2:22:11] road. He couldn't put

[2:22:15] a subject to public dedication on a road

[2:22:17] that he didn't own. Only those people

[2:22:20] living back there could do that. There

[2:22:22] is no signature on my platform from the

[2:22:24] people living back there because they

[2:22:26] didn't sign off on that. That's their

[2:22:28] private easement. Yes, he owns a part of

[2:22:32] that easement as of 2001. My plat was

[2:22:36] written in 1996.

[2:22:38] So tell me how the county plans to take

[2:22:42] our private property to make a public

[2:22:45] road.

[2:22:48] Taking that 50-foot buffer would take

[2:22:51] both me and the fisher property out of a

[2:22:54] egg 10.

[2:22:57] I told Egan all of this at the very

[2:23:00] beginning that there's no way to make

[2:23:02] that road into a state road without all

[2:23:05] of us signing off on it. A 30-year-old

[2:23:08] plat note isn't even valid. It's

[2:23:11] considered vacated. The county has never

[2:23:14] taken care of that road. We've paid the

[2:23:16] taxes on that property. That is our

[2:23:18] property you're talking about taking. So

[2:23:22] I think my property rights and my rights

[2:23:25] to the therapy of living in my house on

[2:23:27] a 10 should certainly supersede an

[2:23:31] incoming commercial venture which

[2:23:33] they've never had the ability to make

[2:23:35] that estate road at any time.

[2:23:38] Thank you.

[2:23:39] >> Thank you.

[2:23:43] » Um Jess Walters and 6075 Captain

[2:23:47] Yansancy Road. I'm actually from Elton,

[2:23:48] but I'm speaking on behalf of a group.

[2:23:50] So, I would ask for all of them to

[2:23:52] stand, please.

[2:23:56] All right. Mr. Chairman and members of

[2:23:58] the board of supervisors, my name is Dr.

[2:24:00] Jess Walters, and while I am a current

[2:24:02] resident of Rockingham County, I grew up

[2:24:04] in Powatan and I am the sole heir to

[2:24:06] both 1033 and 1013 Rocky Ford Road in

[2:24:09] District 4. Furthermore, I'm

[2:24:11] representing each of my family members

[2:24:13] who make up the land owners beyond

[2:24:14] Skippers Creek Bridge on the CCC road.

[2:24:17] First, I would like to thank you all for

[2:24:19] the thorough analysis of all

[2:24:21] contributing factors in this decision.

[2:24:23] Understandably, this is a divisive topic

[2:24:25] that is both emotionally charged and

[2:24:27] controversial, but each factor does hold

[2:24:29] merit. I want to share just a little bit

[2:24:31] about some of the people that this will

[2:24:32] truly affect. The family-owned parcels

[2:24:35] of land accessing this road were

[2:24:36] purchased by my grandfather in the 1930s

[2:24:39] as one of the founding farmers of this

[2:24:40] county. He along with my grandmother and

[2:24:43] their six children operated one of the

[2:24:45] largest dairy farms in Powatan, playing

[2:24:47] a pivotal role in the county's early

[2:24:48] days of agriculture. Not only did he aid

[2:24:51] in the development of this road, he and

[2:24:53] my grandmother wrote the 1985 CCC road

[2:24:56] agreement as a formal agreement between

[2:24:57] each landowner, even though most were

[2:24:59] immediate family. Today, those land

[2:25:02] plots make up a large parcel of property

[2:25:04] belonging to second, third, and fourth

[2:25:06] generations of my family. While my

[2:25:08] family members have spent their lives

[2:25:09] living on and maintaining the

[2:25:11] surrounding land in rural preservation,

[2:25:13] social media supporters of the applicant

[2:25:15] have stated, "People forget they bought

[2:25:17] two acres and want to control 50 more

[2:25:19] around them. Everyone moves to and wants

[2:25:21] the country life until country life

[2:25:23] turns into country life. A bunch of

[2:25:25] suburb people move to the rural counties

[2:25:27] and then want to stop country folks from

[2:25:28] doing country things. Anyone who doesn't

[2:25:31] support this place should move. and

[2:25:33] you're in a state that is eat up with

[2:25:34] mental illness and people that are

[2:25:36] totally Supporters have called

[2:25:39] my aunts Karens, communists, a-holes,

[2:25:43] threatened to mail blast all of the

[2:25:44] major insurance carriers to make them

[2:25:46] aware of EMS constraints on the bridge

[2:25:48] and among others not appropriate to read

[2:25:50] for this audience. My personal favorite

[2:25:52] stated one was an old busy body cat

[2:25:54] lady. Why? For quietly voicing their

[2:25:57] opposition and for posting signs on

[2:25:58] their own property to prevent

[2:26:00] trespassing. Because my family stays

[2:26:02] most mostly quiet on social media, I'd

[2:26:04] like to reiterate the type of people

[2:26:05] that they are. My grandfather was one of

[2:26:07] the most wellrespected members of this

[2:26:09] county, paying for everything in cash or

[2:26:11] an IOU. My mom and aunts are some of the

[2:26:13] most hardworking country women I have

[2:26:15] ever met. They got up every morning at

[2:26:17] 3:00 a.m. and milked cows before going

[2:26:19] to schools or their jobs. They worked

[2:26:21] hard to keep this land for their

[2:26:23] children. These women and their

[2:26:24] descendants are all hardworking land

[2:26:26] owners who were not only founding

[2:26:27] farmers of Powatan County, but are those

[2:26:30] who continue to commit their land into

[2:26:32] the rural preservation of Powatan

[2:26:33] through the county's agricultural and

[2:26:35] forestal district program. Each of them

[2:26:37] has contributed taxes and business to

[2:26:39] the county for more than 50 years. My

[2:26:41] cousins and I went to Powatan County

[2:26:42] Public Schools and their children have

[2:26:44] done the same. This family truly

[2:26:46] supports the county and has only wanted

[2:26:48] to live out their lives and raise their

[2:26:49] children and grandchildren on land

[2:26:50] passed down through generations. Now,

[2:26:52] let's discuss the legality here,

[2:26:54] specifically of one of the conditions of

[2:26:56] the cup, the condition to build a public

[2:26:57] road from the terminus of River Estates

[2:26:59] Road to the property while not accessing

[2:27:02] the CCC road. Briefly, the 1985 CCC road

[2:27:06] agreement written by my grandfather was

[2:27:08] signed by all property owners, including

[2:27:10] immediate and extended family as well as

[2:27:11] non-family, stating the easement shall

[2:27:14] run with the land to successors and

[2:27:16] assigns of the parties hereto. This eman

[2:27:18] this easement agreement was notorized

[2:27:20] and filed on record in Powatan County.

[2:27:22] Virginia code 55.1-308

[2:27:25] states that dedication for public use

[2:27:27] may only be obtained with the written

[2:27:28] consent of every holder of any

[2:27:30] restrictive covenant or easement prior

[2:27:32] to making such dedication. According to

[2:27:35] this code and Virginia property law, a

[2:27:36] single lot owner cannot unilaterally

[2:27:38] offer someone else's property rights to

[2:27:40] the county. By definition, easement

[2:27:42] holders hold a protected fractioned

[2:27:44] property interest in the road. Whether

[2:27:46] or not the developer owns property on

[2:27:48] either side of the road or has a buffer

[2:27:50] subject to de public dedication is

[2:27:51] irrelevant. There is no access to the

[2:27:54] property in question without crossing

[2:27:55] the easement affected by this agreement

[2:27:57] in at least two places. The potential

[2:27:59] buffer including the easement which is

[2:28:01] subject public dedication is on the

[2:28:03] left. His property on a narrow strip is

[2:28:05] on the right and the 711 acres in

[2:28:07] question is to the left of the CCC road.

[2:28:10] In 2001, an attempt was made to develop

[2:28:13] the 711 acre piece of property. Noting

[2:28:15] then the need for a public road for

[2:28:17] access. Even with the approval of the

[2:28:19] internal road network, the planning

[2:28:21] commission then recommended deferral of

[2:28:23] the request due to the question legality

[2:28:25] of the rightway. They gave the applicant

[2:28:27] four months to provide time to submit

[2:28:29] verification that the rightway was

[2:28:30] available to improve the road. No other

[2:28:33] continuation or further approval records

[2:28:34] are available and there's no public

[2:28:36] record of resolution. Given the legal

[2:28:38] challenges, the history of the

[2:28:39] surrounding properties, and the detailed

[2:28:41] analysis provided by both the planning

[2:28:42] director and the agricultural and

[2:28:44] forestal district committee, I encourage

[2:28:46] you all to follow the recommendation of

[2:28:47] the planning staff and planning

[2:28:49] commission to deny this conditional use

[2:28:50] permit. Thank you.

[2:28:51] >> Thank you.

[2:28:58] » Uh,

[2:29:00] good evening, Bob Kelly, District 2.

[2:29:02] Good evening, Chairman Dennady and

[2:29:05] Supervisors. I'm here to speak about

[2:29:08] throttle therapy's proposed conditional

[2:29:10] use permit for the motorsports park. I

[2:29:12] am asking that the board follow the

[2:29:14] unanimous recommendation of the planning

[2:29:16] commission and reject this proposal. I

[2:29:18] understand why folks are enthralled by

[2:29:20] throttle therapies marketing. We

[2:29:22] remember our teenage years spent riding

[2:29:24] dirt bikes and ATVs over old dirt roads

[2:29:26] and through sand and gravel pits.

[2:29:28] Today's different. No trespassing signs

[2:29:31] are everywhere and it's tough just to

[2:29:32] find a place to ride. Kids need exciting

[2:29:35] things to do and throttle therapy

[2:29:37] promises that. While that being said,

[2:29:39] throttle therapy is a business. Their

[2:29:42] goal is not to let make life better for

[2:29:44] the people of Powatan. Throttle therapy

[2:29:46] exists to generate maximum profits for

[2:29:48] their owners. They will bring in

[2:29:50] customers from across Virginia and

[2:29:52] neighboring states. Kids from Powatan

[2:29:54] will not be able to just take their dirt

[2:29:56] bikes to Throttle Therapy on a whim and

[2:29:58] ride. They will need to make online

[2:30:00] reservations weeks in advance. And the

[2:30:02] price may be too rich for some of our

[2:30:04] neighbors. Folks coming in from Virginia

[2:30:07] Beach, Stanton, Smith Mountain Lake, or

[2:30:10] Kentucky will bring heavy traffic to

[2:30:12] Rocky Ford Road and to River Estates

[2:30:14] roads. These streets are narrow and

[2:30:16] curvy. They are not built to handle the

[2:30:18] volume of traffic that would come to

[2:30:20] throttle therapy.

[2:30:22] The AFD environmental impact study

[2:30:24] include with the board agenda just

[2:30:26] shows, excuse me, shows just how

[2:30:28] damaging throttle therapies operations

[2:30:30] will be. First, the decibel level from

[2:30:32] all of those bikes and ATVs running at

[2:30:34] the same time will significantly impact

[2:30:37] the quality of life and damage property

[2:30:39] values in the neighborhoods adjacent to

[2:30:41] the park. Second, this will cause

[2:30:44] significant damage to local wildlife,

[2:30:46] especially to the birds that are

[2:30:47] indigenous to the Appamatics Riverbank.

[2:30:51] My late friend Pat Aspenwol was an

[2:30:53] amateur aven photographer. Her home was

[2:30:56] near the property in question and she

[2:30:58] would be shocked that this board would

[2:31:00] even consider a proposal that would

[2:31:01] permanently harm our local environment.

[2:31:04] And then finally, what does Powane get

[2:31:06] out of this? Throttle Therapy will, by

[2:31:09] the nature of their business, require

[2:31:10] more emergency services. Are they're

[2:31:12] offering to pay for road improvements? I

[2:31:14] guess the road up to there they will.

[2:31:16] Are they offering to buy a new fire

[2:31:18] truck, police vehicles, police

[2:31:20] equipment? And finally, just to reflect,

[2:31:24] there's nowhere better to watch a sunset

[2:31:25] than the parking lot of Graceland

[2:31:27] Baptist Church. It's that peaceful

[2:31:29] feeling that I never want to lose.

[2:31:31] Throttle therapy offers too much

[2:31:33] disruption without bringing equivalent

[2:31:34] benefits to the people of Palatan.

[2:31:37] Therefore, I urge you to reject the cup.

[2:31:39] Thank you. Thanks. Thank you. Next.

[2:31:47] Good evening, honorable chairman, other

[2:31:50] distinguished members of the board.

[2:31:53] My name is Pete Cy. I live in district 4

[2:31:55] on our family farm at 1687 Capeway Road

[2:31:58] here in Powatan.

[2:32:00] Tonight, I am speaking as a member of

[2:32:04] and on behalf of the board of directors

[2:32:06] of the Powatan County Farm Bureau. And

[2:32:08] at this time, I'd like to read a

[2:32:11] prepared statement.

[2:32:14] With unanimous consent, the board of

[2:32:16] directors of the Palatan County Farm

[2:32:18] Bureau respectfully request that you

[2:32:22] resend ordinance 0202603

[2:32:26] adopted by the Palatan County Board of

[2:32:28] Supervisors in January 26th that amends

[2:32:32] chapter 83 zoning section 83160

[2:32:37] 10 section 83 162 conditional uses by

[2:32:41] adding number 61 motorsports park as a

[2:32:44] use allowable by conditional use permit.

[2:32:48] We further note the work on this

[2:32:50] ordinance is not yet complete as

[2:32:52] evidenced by this staff statement as

[2:32:54] follows. And I quote, "Further

[2:32:57] supplemental use regulations and

[2:32:58] performance standards may be developed

[2:33:00] or refined in the future to guide

[2:33:03] expectations related to operational

[2:33:06] impacts and to ensure compatibility with

[2:33:09] surrounding rural properties.

[2:33:13] Additionally, we apart from the

[2:33:15] president of the Powatan Farm Bureau

[2:33:18] request the board of supervisors deny

[2:33:20] approval of the current application 2603

[2:33:23] cup by Throttle Therapy Appamatics River

[2:33:26] LLC for the operation of a motorsports

[2:33:29] park off Rocky Ford Road in District 4.

[2:33:33] The board of the Palatan County Farm

[2:33:35] Bureau hopes you take these two requests

[2:33:38] under consideration and thanks you.

[2:33:42] Now, if I may make a few comments as a

[2:33:44] citizen and a land owner in the county.

[2:33:48] A few years ago, we placed our farm in a

[2:33:50] perpetual conservation easement to

[2:33:53] protect those 250 acres of fields and

[2:33:55] forests from ever being developed. Our

[2:33:58] commitment to keeping Palatan

[2:34:00] agricultural is real. It also formed the

[2:34:03] core of the Rocky Ford Agricultural and

[2:34:07] Forestal [clears throat] District.

[2:34:09] Having said that, I have no personal

[2:34:11] aversion to motorcycles. I've owned

[2:34:13] four. I even rode one to California and

[2:34:16] back when I was in my 20s. I get it.

[2:34:19] It's fun. It's thrilling even. I also

[2:34:22] think four-wheelers have a place in

[2:34:24] agricultural settings. They're

[2:34:25] invaluable and checking miles of pasture

[2:34:27] fence or transporting harvested deer

[2:34:29] home over long distances. I agree.

[2:34:32] Riding around outdoors is a great way to

[2:34:34] get kids off screens and into something

[2:34:36] they can enjoy with their siblings. and

[2:34:38] parents. But let's not kid ourselves.

[2:34:41] This proposed venture is a commercial

[2:34:43] operation owned and managed by

[2:34:45] non-county residents. This is not a

[2:34:47] casual ride around the property of mom

[2:34:49] or dad or your grandparents. And this is

[2:34:52] a terrible location for this venture.

[2:34:54] The environment, the wildlife, and the

[2:34:56] homeowners in the surrounding

[2:34:57] neighborhoods just did not sign up for

[2:35:00] this. Thank you.

[2:35:02] >> Thank you.

[2:35:04] [clears throat]

[2:35:05] Can I limit the applause, please?

[2:35:10] April, May, 3571 Pine View Drive. The

[2:35:14] one lady hit a lot of what I was going

[2:35:16] to say. They did a noise cuz that has

[2:35:18] been a big issue with the residents

[2:35:20] around and I don't fit in their little

[2:35:22] speck bubble, but on my back porch I

[2:35:25] could hear the noise. Um the planning

[2:35:30] commission they did an acoustical study

[2:35:32] and as uh on page 239 of the cup it says

[2:35:36] acoustical study did not use lab

[2:35:38] calibrated acoustical equipment and were

[2:35:40] not intended to establish compliance and

[2:35:42] or non-compliance with county's noise

[2:35:45] ordinance. Planning director also stated

[2:35:47] this was during summer foliage in a

[2:35:50] single visit and should not be

[2:35:51] interpretive as a predictive of future

[2:35:54] conditions under different seasons,

[2:35:56] writer volume, or operational

[2:35:58] circumstances.

[2:36:00] They stated they had 50 to 60 riders

[2:36:02] that day. They're looking up to up to

[2:36:04] 150 riders on their day visits. Um, when

[2:36:09] the planning commission asked Throttle

[2:36:11] Therapy how they were going to staff

[2:36:13] this, uh, neither owner of Throttle

[2:36:16] Therapy had any ideas on the staffing of

[2:36:19] this business. Um, at the planning

[2:36:21] commission meeting when asked the cup on

[2:36:23] page 214 states at a minimum there's one

[2:36:27] manager on site during business hours.

[2:36:30] From his Facebook post, it will be

[2:36:33] online memberships and reservations. So,

[2:36:36] in my hands, it looks like off-site

[2:36:38] management

[2:36:40] from while they live in Maryland. They

[2:36:43] still in the CPU talks about dry camping

[2:36:46] and portaotties. So, does that mean

[2:36:48] staffing is going to have to stay

[2:36:49] overnight with these dry campers to make

[2:36:51] sure nobody's trespassing on other

[2:36:53] people's property that surround and how

[2:36:56] waste and

[2:36:58] water issues are going to be disposed

[2:37:00] of? Is there going to be monitoring of

[2:37:02] that? The creek that runs underneath the

[2:37:04] bridge runs through my property and we

[2:37:06] were all on wells. So, what happens when

[2:37:08] something a spill happens? Who's going

[2:37:10] to clean that up? Are they responsible?

[2:37:12] Is the county responsible? Um, I am a

[2:37:15] business owner. I'm a hairdresser.

[2:37:17] Services in the state are not taxed. You

[2:37:20] don't pay sales tax per visit on a

[2:37:23] service that you provide. How is the

[2:37:25] taxing on this? How's the county going

[2:37:27] to make money in order to support all

[2:37:29] the stress on EMS and fire? Um,

[2:37:36] how's the county planning on making this

[2:37:38] a public road? Are we going to

[2:37:39] confiscate private citizens property? I

[2:37:42] don't believe that that's how we run

[2:37:44] this country. Um,

[2:37:49] and the cup is only for 5 years. I know

[2:37:51] the land owner has tried to develop this

[2:37:53] in the past for neighborhoods and that's

[2:37:57] been posted multiple times, but you have

[2:37:59] one access in, one access out, and it's

[2:38:02] private roads. And unless you confiscate

[2:38:04] somebody's personal property to do that,

[2:38:06] I don't see how this is a viable

[2:38:08] business.

[2:38:09] >> Thank you.

[2:38:14] » Hey guys. Um, Sheenar Connor is I'm from

[2:38:18] voting district 63. Actually, I I drove

[2:38:21] down from Stafford just to come to this

[2:38:23] meeting. So, because obviously I brought

[2:38:27] the stuff, if you could pretend this is

[2:38:29] a motorcycle helmet, but pretend it's an

[2:38:31] ATV helmet cuz I was my family was

[2:38:33] riding ATVs up in actually Maryland this

[2:38:36] past weekend at my wife's parents house.

[2:38:38] Anyway, and look, some people made some

[2:38:40] really good arguments. I go to a lot of

[2:38:42] these board meetings up in Stafford. You

[2:38:43] guys should all be glad. Um Stafford,

[2:38:46] Spennsylvania, they're crazy. It's like

[2:38:47] Jerry Springer board meetings. So, be

[2:38:50] glad that it's not like that here, okay?

[2:38:51] It's you guys are cool. Um, but I mean,

[2:38:54] they got like pride parades with drag

[2:38:56] queens twerking on kids for money. Like,

[2:38:58] it's it's nuts, okay? It's crazy. So,

[2:39:01] I'd love to come down here and I don't

[2:39:04] know how you going to work this out.

[2:39:05] Like, the road thing, that's a big deal.

[2:39:07] Like, you know, obviously you don't

[2:39:09] steal people's private property. That'd

[2:39:10] be stupid. But, so I'm really all about

[2:39:13] freedom. Um, you might have maybe you

[2:39:16] guys have heard my name Shamgar Connor

[2:39:17] since it's a one in the world. Shamgar

[2:39:20] is a Bible name. Anyway, I got kicked

[2:39:21] off the kidney transplant list at UVA

[2:39:23] because I didn't get the COVID vaccine.

[2:39:25] And then after that, I got like stalked

[2:39:27] by all these like crazy lunatics that

[2:39:29] were like I'm they they said I should

[2:39:31] die and my kids should die, my wife

[2:39:33] should die, and then like it was nuts.

[2:39:35] Crazy, right? But so I'm all about

[2:39:36] freedom. I just want people to have

[2:39:38] freedom to do what they want. And I

[2:39:39] think if you guys could work it out,

[2:39:41] this would be awesome. I mean, I'd love

[2:39:43] to come down here all the time. I mean,

[2:39:44] I drove it down took me an hour and a

[2:39:45] half just to get here today just to talk

[2:39:47] about this, but I mean, [clears throat]

[2:39:49] we've been doing this kind of stuff our

[2:39:50] whole lives. I'll tell you a cool story.

[2:39:52] Um, we had um like you know those Power

[2:39:55] Wheels things. So, I modified my kids my

[2:39:58] son's Power Wheels when he was was 3

[2:40:00] years old and I put two giant lawnmower

[2:40:02] batteries in it and crosswired it so it

[2:40:04] was 24 volts. So, there he is. He's like

[2:40:06] 3 years old

[2:40:08] like hold on and I'm running after him

[2:40:10] full speed. I can't catch him. And he's

[2:40:12] riding all around the yard. We got three

[2:40:13] acres of land. And it was awesome,

[2:40:15] right? And I'm I'm screaming. Hey, get

[2:40:16] back here. Don't worry. Ah, these, you

[2:40:18] know, but and this was his helmet. Look

[2:40:20] at this. I mean, that's pretty cool,

[2:40:21] right? Look at that. Mohawk riding

[2:40:23] around like crazy having fun. Like those

[2:40:25] are the kind of memories that you love

[2:40:27] to make. I really think if you guys

[2:40:28] could work something out where you guys

[2:40:29] get this going, like you guys could have

[2:40:32] a lot. You could build your whole town

[2:40:33] like around this in a positive way. You

[2:40:36] know, we I was up at Stafford and then

[2:40:39] they didn't want Bies built there and I wore a BES costume and I went

[2:40:42] there and I did a taste test on the

[2:40:43] microphone at the board meeting. I

[2:40:45] started eating. I'm like, "Oh, it's

[2:40:47] yummy." Right? And then they approved the thing. It was pretty

[2:40:50] funny, right? I mean, but the point was

[2:40:52] it was just to say, "Yeah, I think it's

[2:40:55] cool. If you guys can work things out to

[2:40:56] bring a business, they eventually

[2:40:58] obviously you're going to make money.

[2:40:59] You bring people here. I know. I guess

[2:41:01] there's no lodging. I don't even know

[2:41:02] that. That's crazy. But I mean, maybe

[2:41:04] they'll build some. You never know,

[2:41:06] right? So, I think it's awesome. So,

[2:41:07] look, let me put on this helmet to for

[2:41:09] like for purpose of the video. Look. All

[2:41:12] right. Ready? There. I'm ready. Ready.

[2:41:15] Okay. Start your engines. Wait. Let's go

[2:41:19] get some throttle therapy.

[2:41:22] There we go.

[2:41:24] >> Thank you. Boom. Boom.

[2:41:42] Good evening. My name is Monica Gallier

[2:41:45] and I live at 920 Rocky Ford Road, right

[2:41:48] up the road from River Estates, right up

[2:41:51] the road from Orthod Throttle Therapy.

[2:41:54] Hopefully will be. I support it first

[2:41:57] and foremost. I want that to be known.

[2:42:00] Sorry I didn't have time to dress up or

[2:42:02] change. My husband and I drove in from

[2:42:04] West Virginia today where we went to

[2:42:07] drive our side by side.

[2:42:10] A lot of people out here, a lot of

[2:42:11] people online, a lot of people

[2:42:12] everywhere talking about how this

[2:42:14] impacts the animals,

[2:42:17] the wildlife.

[2:42:19] While we were driving

[2:42:22] in West Virginia, Virginia, and Kentucky

[2:42:25] this past weekend, we saw wild horses

[2:42:29] who would run up to our side by sides,

[2:42:32] follow us,

[2:42:34] so we would stop,

[2:42:37] licking my machine, sticking their heads

[2:42:39] in the my machine, wanting to come with

[2:42:42] us in our machine.

[2:42:45] Not afraid of them. They heard us

[2:42:48] coming. They wanted to see us. We wanted

[2:42:50] to see them, too, because it was fun.

[2:42:54] So, saying that the wild animals will be

[2:42:56] affected

[2:42:59] is not 100% true.

[2:43:02] My husband and I bought our property in

[2:43:04] 1998.

[2:43:06] We built our home with our own hands. We

[2:43:09] own both of the both sides of the

[2:43:12] property of Grace Church on Rocky Ford

[2:43:14] Road and behind it.

[2:43:19] I support it. I live on Rocky Ford Road.

[2:43:23] I have shown my support by speaking

[2:43:25] about this. I have shown my support by

[2:43:27] showing up to the community meetings,

[2:43:29] the planning commission meetings,

[2:43:31] posting signs on my property supporting

[2:43:34] this. Soon as I put the signs up on my

[2:43:37] property, someone called Palatan

[2:43:40] Historical Society, Grace Church is

[2:43:42] owned by the Palatan Historical Society.

[2:43:45] Someone said those signs were on Grace

[2:43:48] property. They were in front of the

[2:43:50] church.

[2:43:52] They weren't. That was a lie.

[2:43:56] Those signs were on my property.

[2:44:00] There have been

[2:44:02] horrible things said by people on both

[2:44:05] sides.

[2:44:10] People who are opposed of this,

[2:44:14] they try to put themselves in the high

[2:44:15] ground. They've said some awful things

[2:44:17] online also.

[2:44:19] They've said hurtful, threatening, mean,

[2:44:24] degrading, bullying things. Both sides

[2:44:27] have. And that's not right.

[2:44:31] But no one from the supporting side that

[2:44:35] I know of, and I've talked to people,

[2:44:38] have trespassed on someone's private

[2:44:40] property and stole the signs.

[2:44:47] I have more, but I don't have time.

[2:44:49] >> Thank you.

[2:44:55] Good evening, ladies and gentlemen of

[2:44:57] the board.

[2:44:59] Let's get to my notes here.

[2:45:02] Want to thank you for your time and

[2:45:03] service to our county. I'm Luke Huddle,

[2:45:04] District 2. This application has become

[2:45:08] one of the most discussed issues here in

[2:45:09] Powatan.

[2:45:11] And while there's disagreement, there's

[2:45:13] also real common ground.

[2:45:16] What I've repeatedly what I've heard

[2:45:18] repeatedly is that many people,

[2:45:20] including some who oppose the location,

[2:45:22] actually support the idea of a

[2:45:24] motorsports park here in the county. If

[2:45:27] we could take a simple show of hands

[2:45:29] tonight, I believe you'd see how many of

[2:45:30] us on both sides truly support the idea

[2:45:33] in this county in the right location.

[2:45:36] County staff has worked closely with the

[2:45:39] applicant to create a thorough set of

[2:45:40] conditions that protect public health,

[2:45:42] safety, and welfare. staff has noted the

[2:45:44] applicant's willingness to collaborate

[2:45:46] and adjust. I can personally confirm

[2:45:48] that. I've worked directly with the

[2:45:51] applicant to address my own concerns and

[2:45:54] concerns raised by others. If you

[2:45:56] approve this application, I'm confident

[2:45:58] that the applicant will continue working

[2:45:59] with neighbors, outside agencies in the

[2:46:01] county to ensure this park operates

[2:46:03] responsibly under the conditions set.

[2:46:06] Because most opposition centers on

[2:46:08] location, I've looked for alternate

[2:46:10] large parcels across Powatan.

[2:46:13] I did not find one more balanced than

[2:46:15] this property. It was recently logged,

[2:46:17] meaning the ecosystem has already been

[2:46:19] disturbed.

[2:46:21] And a supervised maintained park could

[2:46:23] actually help stabilize it as it

[2:46:24] regrows. There are about 16 homes within

[2:46:27] a onem radius of the activity area. For

[2:46:30] comparison, there was a motocross track

[2:46:31] that operated here in the late 90s and

[2:46:33] 2000s.

[2:46:35] That's where I grew up riding. It had

[2:46:37] more than 220 homes in the same radius.

[2:46:41] With similar hours and a far higher bike

[2:46:44] per acre density,

[2:46:46] this property is large enough to spread

[2:46:48] riders out, reducing density and

[2:46:51] lowering the impact on the neighbors. In

[2:46:53] recent months, you've approved a senior

[2:46:55] care facility, zoning for a data center,

[2:46:57] a highdensity multi-use development, and

[2:46:59] you're considering a possible tax

[2:47:00] increase coming up.

[2:47:02] You've taken steps to support revenue

[2:47:04] growth in our aging population which

[2:47:06] matters. But that population resents,

[2:47:09] excuse me, represents less than half of

[2:47:10] Palatan. Tonight is an opportunity to do

[2:47:13] something meaningful for the younger

[2:47:14] generation,

[2:47:16] something not driven by revenue,

[2:47:18] something the broader community and our

[2:47:20] guests can actually enjoy.

[2:47:23] And this proposal goes beyond

[2:47:24] motorsports. The applicant plans hiking

[2:47:27] and biking trails to meet the

[2:47:29] comprehensive plan's goal of providing

[2:47:30] public access to the Appamatic River as

[2:47:32] well. I believe they will continue

[2:47:34] expanding low impact outdoor recreation

[2:47:36] that appeals to families, young people,

[2:47:38] and everyday residents who simply want

[2:47:40] more ways to enjoy the outdoors. You

[2:47:42] have a real opportunity in front of you.

[2:47:44] The applicant is willing to work with

[2:47:46] us. We simply need to be willing to work

[2:47:48] with them. I respectfully urge you to

[2:47:51] vote yes on this application. Thank you

[2:47:53] for your time.

[2:47:53] >> Thank you.

[2:47:58] Good evening board. My name is Matt

[2:48:00] Stevens, 311 Timber Trace Court,

[2:48:03] Powatan.

[2:48:05] I'm here to say that I fully support the

[2:48:08] recommendation to deny the CUP

[2:48:10] application for the reasons that have

[2:48:11] already been stated. Thank you very

[2:48:13] much.

[2:48:14] >> Thank you.

[2:48:17] » Hello, my name is Carl Schwenderman. Um,

[2:48:20] I think Powatan County should use this

[2:48:22] be this uh resoning to um ask that they

[2:48:25] extend the pros bicycle trail along. You

[2:48:28] know the the flood how you have the

[2:48:29] flood plane along the Appamax River

[2:48:31] that's 2 and a half miles long and then

[2:48:33] you have the the main land. Could Powan

[2:48:35] County ask them to extend the proposed

[2:48:38] bike trail along the edge of the flood

[2:48:40] plane along the Appamatics River for 2

[2:48:42] and a half miles? Because Powan County

[2:48:45] would Poutan County should use this as a

[2:48:47] chance to have a 2 and a half mile long

[2:48:49] bike trail and side and a pedestrian

[2:48:52] trail along the edge of the Appamatics

[2:48:54] and then they could extend it to the

[2:48:56] Fighting Creek Park trail system. So I

[2:48:59] think that Powen County should use this

[2:49:02] chance to uh get a profer to ask for an

[2:49:05] ease like a a small easement like 8 foot

[2:49:08] wide easement or a a 20 foot wide

[2:49:10] easement along the edge of the

[2:49:11] Appamatics River flood plane for a trail

[2:49:15] to go from a Millor road to um the to

[2:49:21] [clears throat] um

[2:49:23] Rocky Ford Road because next to Rocky

[2:49:24] Ford Road at the Appamatics River

[2:49:27] crossing there's 100 acres owned by

[2:49:29] Chesterfield County. So, this would be a

[2:49:32] great way to get a beautiful o to open

[2:49:34] up the Appamatics River by asking for a

[2:49:38] section of the Fighting Creek Park trail

[2:49:39] system along the edge of the Appmax

[2:49:41] River.

[2:49:43] Thank you.

[2:49:47] » Hi, my name is Donald May. at 3571 Pine

[2:49:51] View Drive about a mile and a half as

[2:49:53] the crow flies from Throttle Therapy's

[2:49:56] proposed site. That dude, that other

[2:49:58] dude was awesome. That's all I got to

[2:49:59] say. My god, he was funny. I've lived on

[2:50:03] my 10 acres for over 15 years and I feel

[2:50:06] content and hopefully a little solid as

[2:50:08] a solid member of the community. That

[2:50:10] being said, pales in comparison with the

[2:50:12] family, farmers, and residents that have

[2:50:15] lived in this area for generations. They

[2:50:18] had children born, families grow, and

[2:50:20] family members die in these homesteads.

[2:50:22] All the while being great stewards of

[2:50:25] this land that surrounds them. Listen to

[2:50:28] these folks who have lived there. They

[2:50:31] all want what's good for the community.

[2:50:33] Throttle Therapy Group lives, this is

[2:50:35] honest, they live in Annapolis,

[2:50:37] Maryland. And I would argue that the

[2:50:39] endeavor they are pursuing would need

[2:50:42] daily attention and management from the

[2:50:44] owners. It's not a side job you can

[2:50:46] manage via FaceTime or Skype. I don't

[2:50:50] way back. Throttle Therapy Group has

[2:50:52] never opened or I suspect worked at a

[2:50:56] solely motor park facility. They've

[2:50:59] gained their knowledge by owning an

[2:51:00] Airbnb in Lake Anna. I'm not dogging it.

[2:51:04] I'm just saying that's what they did. Oh

[2:51:06] yeah. But they did have a b a dirt bike

[2:51:09] path there if you were staying.

[2:51:12] Their knowledge is pur purely anecdotal.

[2:51:15] The info that they get acquire that they

[2:51:18] acquire is not by experience but by

[2:51:20] asking questions to folks that own

[2:51:23] motorpark establishments or they have

[2:51:26] owned in the past. So they're asking

[2:51:28] these people questions and that's how

[2:51:30] they acquire their knowledge and we get

[2:51:33] to be their guinea pig. Nah. What people

[2:51:36] are saying at this meeting that are

[2:51:38] against the proposal like noise

[2:51:40] pollution, air pollution, water

[2:51:41] pollution, street issues are all

[2:51:43] relevant. Please hear what they are

[2:51:46] saying. Please take a drive the proposed

[2:51:48] area. Please honestly visualize how this

[2:51:51] will work. What will all the added

[2:51:54] trucks, trailers, and cars do to these

[2:51:57] existing roads like Rocky Ford? And that

[2:52:00] should not be tested.

[2:52:02] I can tell you um um throttle therapy

[2:52:05] has pleaded and delayed this vote long

[2:52:07] enough. So, let's move on. Lastly, I

[2:52:11] find it interesting the majority of the

[2:52:13] pro park folks live in other counties or

[2:52:16] own businesses that m the majority that

[2:52:19] own business that would make money on

[2:52:20] this park. I listen to the owners of

[2:52:23] Throttle Therapy. They don't answer how

[2:52:26] this will negatively affect our property

[2:52:28] values, which it will. They don't have

[2:52:31] answers for sales volume or staffing.

[2:52:34] I am glad writing has been therapeutic

[2:52:37] for you. I'm more than grateful for your

[2:52:39] service. My daughter's in boot camp

[2:52:41] right now, so I feel it. To the question

[2:52:44] of what kids can do in the county. I

[2:52:47] will tell you this, we are building a

[2:52:49] 10,000 square foot wrestling facility at

[2:52:52] Blackhawk Gym right now.

[2:52:55] Thank you.

[2:52:59] » Terry Terry Adcock, 5719 Cartersville

[2:53:02] Road, District 5. And I'm here to

[2:53:06] introduce the um speaker for the

[2:53:08] Agricultural Forestal District Advisory

[2:53:10] Committee's report this evening. He's a

[2:53:13] Powatan County resident and a member of

[2:53:16] our AFD advisory commission. And Dr. Dr.

[2:53:19] James Riley is a research biologist at

[2:53:22] Rutgers University and I'm really glad

[2:53:25] that we've got somebody this well

[2:53:27] knowledgeable and that can help us on

[2:53:29] our AFD committee to help protect the

[2:53:33] wildlife of Powatan County.

[2:53:39] » Hi there. Um, so if we could uh uh the

[2:53:43] point here, I'm going to go ahead and

[2:53:45] summarize the AFTD report and um

[2:53:49] then give you guys a chance to have

[2:53:51] questions if you want to. Um, if you if

[2:53:53] you could uh show or turn to page

[2:53:57] uh 283 in the um packet.

[2:54:02] Uh that's so I'm just going to go

[2:54:04] through the figures here. So this is a

[2:54:06] map of the proposed site as it was

[2:54:09] originally presented. Um it's a there

[2:54:11] have been a few minor changes to it but

[2:54:14] um this is just to show um you know

[2:54:17] there's basically two main concerns from

[2:54:19] the perspective of the of the um AFD

[2:54:23] relating to um how this will impact the

[2:54:27] environmental um concern. So um it's the

[2:54:31] direct destruction of sensitive habitats

[2:54:34] along the Appatics River um due to

[2:54:37] building a dense network of trails in

[2:54:40] there and uh also from the noise given

[2:54:43] the uh large scale of this project the

[2:54:46] noise you know is probably going to be

[2:54:49] considerable. So what we did was we

[2:54:51] designed a computer simulation to um

[2:54:55] basically simulate

[2:54:57] placing down a whole bunch of dirt bikes

[2:54:59] in this area and then calculating the

[2:55:02] noise values that would propagate out

[2:55:04] from that. Um so if you'll turn to uh

[2:55:08] the next figure in that report

[2:55:14] uh on page 284

[2:55:16] um that shows the um results of the

[2:55:19] noise simulation. Um so what we did was

[2:55:23] we um assumed a noise value. It's a

[2:55:27] mid-range noise value for a riding um

[2:55:31] dirt bike. And that's all those little

[2:55:33] um yellow dots on the graph there are um

[2:55:36] the random placement of the simulated uh

[2:55:40] dirt bikes on that um the different

[2:55:43] areas that were indicated in their

[2:55:45] proposal.

[2:55:47] And um we assigned a decibel value of 96

[2:55:50] dB to each of those dirt bikes which is

[2:55:52] a sort of a conservative mid-range value

[2:55:56] for them.

[2:55:57] And what we've um what you can see there

[2:56:00] is that the the noise

[2:56:02] dissipates um out from those sources. Um

[2:56:07] you know they sort of merge together and

[2:56:09] add in in a mathematical way. And then

[2:56:12] so when if you look on the on the

[2:56:14] diagram the orange areas are the highest

[2:56:16] noise and as it gets out toward purple

[2:56:18] that's the lowest. Um and we uh plotted

[2:56:22] on this figure um a contour yellow

[2:56:25] contour at 45 dB

[2:56:28] um which is a value that um in the

[2:56:32] literature

[2:56:33] uh is very important for wildlife

[2:56:35] especially birds. Um, you know, we're

[2:56:38] focusing on birds here because they're

[2:56:40] very uh sensitive group of animals to

[2:56:43] noise, you know, being uh that they they

[2:56:45] communicate by singing and um even you

[2:56:50] know small amounts of noise increase can

[2:56:52] be detrimental to them. And the uh the

[2:56:54] literature shows that 45 dB is about the

[2:56:57] level uh where they become affected. And

[2:57:01] um at that level they have um reduced

[2:57:06] success with raising their nestlings.

[2:57:09] they have um you know if you do surveys

[2:57:12] you'll find that birds um occur in fewer

[2:57:14] numbers and they also are fewer species

[2:57:17] of birds in areas where they have that

[2:57:19] um you know often these studies are

[2:57:21] based on traffic noise. Um so that's uh

[2:57:25] that's just showing and we have here in

[2:57:26] this figure a version that has 100 dirt

[2:57:29] bikes um on the left and 200 on the

[2:57:33] right. Um you can see how how far that band extends out there.

[2:57:39] Uh okay. So we could turn to the the

[2:57:42] next uh figure. Um this is basically

[2:57:46] overlaying those noise contours on

[2:57:50] um the Powen County um priority

[2:57:53] conservation area in purple along the

[2:57:55] Appamatics River there. Um and the um

[2:57:59] Appamatics AFD in outlined in green in

[2:58:02] the north.

[2:58:04] And uh you can see that the the 45

[2:58:07] decibel band encompasses the whole width

[2:58:10] of that corridor along the Appetics

[2:58:11] River there. Um which will definitely

[2:58:16] decrease its ability to act as a

[2:58:18] wildlife corridor. Um and then if we

[2:58:21] look down at the uh the bottom two

[2:58:23] panels, this is the same but for the

[2:58:25] state of Virginia's wildlife diversity

[2:58:27] corridor um that's made by the DCR.

[2:58:31] And you can see that uh they recognized

[2:58:33] this particular area as a very sensitive

[2:58:36] important area for um environmental

[2:58:39] protection and um animal movement

[2:58:42] through through central Virginia. And

[2:58:44] this noise band does also basically

[2:58:47] envelop their whole corridor. Um so

[2:58:53] uh

[2:58:55] that's and that's the gist of it. So, if

[2:58:57] there's any questions about how we did

[2:58:59] that or what it means.

[2:59:00] >> No, I apprec I appreciate the

[2:59:01] information. It's not a Q&A though,

[2:59:02] unfortunately.

[2:59:03] >> Okay, great.

[2:59:04] >> Thank you.

[2:59:11] » Cindy Booten, 4343 Bridge Road. This is

[2:59:14] district three. I have a friend whose

[2:59:18] property is

[2:59:20] close to this and she's spent years

[2:59:25] and a lot of money of her own and also

[2:59:28] grants from government agencies

[2:59:32] in reing,

[2:59:34] getting rid of invasive species,

[2:59:38] planting our native species, basically

[2:59:42] reing over 300 acres. was very close to

[2:59:46] this.

[2:59:49] I think you will kill her if you approve

[2:59:51] this. I think she will die because she

[2:59:54] has poured her life into it.

[2:59:58] Next point is the businessmen who have

[3:00:02] proposed this ark talk about it as if

[3:00:05] it's a church camp and we're going on a

[3:00:08] church camp picnic.

[3:00:11] I'm sorry. You saw the gentleman who

[3:00:13] came in with his motorcycle

[3:00:16] uh outfit and helmet. [clears throat]

[3:00:20] How would you like 125 of those

[3:00:23] characters next door to you

[3:00:26] riding and revving up their motorcycles?

[3:00:30] And are you kidding? Who wants to go on

[3:00:33] a walking path with 125 people on dirt

[3:00:38] bikes? I mean, I'm glad that they get

[3:00:41] their therapy from that, but I look at

[3:00:45] it, this is more entertainment.

[3:00:49] And we're talking about one group's

[3:00:52] right to have the entertainment they

[3:00:55] prefer

[3:00:56] and then the land owners and the people

[3:01:00] adjacent to this, the wildlife. We're

[3:01:04] talking about the very quality of their

[3:01:06] life. with the wildlife and the bird

[3:01:09] thing we just heard. We're talking about

[3:01:13] nesting grounds, flyways,

[3:01:15] things that affect the population.

[3:01:19] Okay, it's two different things on a

[3:01:22] scale. It doesn't weigh out. These are

[3:01:24] people from another

[3:01:27] um state coming in here to put in their

[3:01:31] little park, their little play park. Um,

[3:01:34] as a Palatan resident, I told you I live

[3:01:37] about 2 thou 2,000 yard of feet from two

[3:01:42] dirt bikes.

[3:01:45] My right to have peace and quiet. And

[3:01:49] I'll say, I'm a nurse practitioner. I

[3:01:52] worked in the ER. Talk about

[3:01:54] post-traumatic stress. From what you've

[3:01:56] seen,

[3:01:58] I need quiet. So do these people who

[3:02:02] have lived on this land for generations.

[3:02:05] There's no comparison. Tell them to go

[3:02:08] somewhere else. I also

[3:02:11] come from an area where they put this in

[3:02:14] and it's a mess. My sister lives in one.

[3:02:17] It's a mess. They go riding across the

[3:02:20] highway in front of cars. It's

[3:02:22] dangerous.

[3:02:23] >> Thank you.

[3:02:29] Good evening. Debbie Madison, 964 Rocky

[3:02:32] Ford Road, District 2. I fully support

[3:02:35] the planning commission's vote to deny

[3:02:36] the applicants conditional use permit

[3:02:38] 2603 cup. Now, let's look look closely

[3:02:42] at the access management and safety

[3:02:44] statistics for Rocky Ford Road. From

[3:02:47] January 2025 to June 2026, there were

[3:02:50] 262 calls to 911 on this road. 44% of

[3:02:54] those calls were priority 1 and priority

[3:02:56] two emergencies. What is alarming is

[3:02:58] that 47% of those priority emergencies

[3:03:01] occurred during the exact days and hours

[3:03:04] the applicant wants to operate.

[3:03:06] Furthermore, DMV Treads data shows 36%

[3:03:09] of all incidents on Rocky Ford Road over

[3:03:12] the last 5 years resulted in injury and

[3:03:15] 53% of all incidents were speed related.

[3:03:18] The applicant's revised conditional use

[3:03:20] permit calls for a traffic increase by

[3:03:22] up to 125 vehicles per day on weekends

[3:03:24] and federal holidays. That's a 12.5%

[3:03:28] spike in traffic volume. Any 911 call

[3:03:31] volume increase over 1% will negatively

[3:03:34] impact emergency response, will increase

[3:03:36] the demands on county services, and will

[3:03:39] unpleasantly impact local residents days

[3:03:41] of rest, recovery, and personal time. It

[3:03:43] is clear the surrounding infrastructure

[3:03:45] simply cannot handle any increase in

[3:03:47] vehicle traffic not designed for

[3:03:49] residential use. VOTE itself noted that

[3:03:52] the local residential roads are not

[3:03:54] designed for trailers, campers or other

[3:03:56] vehicles serving in a commercial

[3:03:58] recreational use. Moreover, there were

[3:04:01] no safe turn lanes outlined in the

[3:04:03] applicant's permit for Gento Rocky Ford

[3:04:06] River Estates or Old Buckingham Roads.

[3:04:09] Without safe turn lanes, incidents will

[3:04:11] rise. Genito Road has ranked in the top

[3:04:14] two or three cluster for high crash

[3:04:16] locations for the past five years per

[3:04:19] DMV Virginia highway safety. VOTE also

[3:04:22] noted that the intersection of River

[3:04:24] Estates and Rocky Ford Road may require

[3:04:27] widening and major structural changes to

[3:04:29] accommodate larger turning area areas

[3:04:32] for vehicles with trailers. The top two

[3:04:35] rural high-risk categories for our

[3:04:37] district for the past two years include

[3:04:40] both roadway departure and

[3:04:41] intersections, which are common on rural

[3:04:43] roads. Yet, the applicant completely

[3:04:46] omitted an access management plan for

[3:04:48] this intersection in its submission.

[3:04:50] These unknown infrastructure changes and

[3:04:53] geometric modifications threaten our

[3:04:55] private property rights. County

[3:04:57] Ordinance 0202602

[3:05:00] requires a 10acre minimum for A10 lots.

[3:05:03] Widening these roads could cut into

[3:05:05] existing properties, including my

[3:05:08] property, pushing private property

[3:05:10] owners below the legal 10 acre limit.

[3:05:12] While land can be taken for public

[3:05:14] infrastructure improvements, private

[3:05:16] land cannot be taken to benefit a

[3:05:18] private commercial recreational

[3:05:20] business. This conditional use permit

[3:05:22] request has already caused an

[3:05:23] unreasonable absorption of time and

[3:05:25] taxpayer dollars on meetings, outreach,

[3:05:28] foyer request, etc. It's time to say

[3:05:30] when. I urge you to protect the

[3:05:32] residents, uphold the unanimous vote,

[3:05:34] and deny this conditional use permit.

[3:05:37] Thank you.

[3:05:38] >> Thank you.

[3:05:42] » Good evening. My name is Gail Nunnelly.

[3:05:44] I live at 310 Skippers Ridge in Powatan.

[3:05:48] I've been in this county for 30 years. I

[3:05:51] am here to say that I fully support the

[3:05:53] recommendation to deny case 2603

[3:05:56] cup throttle therapy. My reason is my

[3:06:00] daughter and I own the house at 961

[3:06:02] Rocky Ford Road. This is the first house

[3:06:05] on River Estates Road. When you turn on

[3:06:07] River Estates, there she is. On

[3:06:10] Saturday, June 20th, 2026, I was sitting

[3:06:14] on the porch at my daughter's house when

[3:06:16] multiple vehicles began showing up with

[3:06:19] ATVs, motorcycles, and other off-road

[3:06:22] vehicles. Knowing that the cup had not

[3:06:25] been voted on at that time, we were

[3:06:27] confused as to why they were there. I

[3:06:30] called a few neighbors and they were not

[3:06:32] aware of anything going on at the

[3:06:34] location, but had also seen the traffic

[3:06:37] coming in.

[3:06:40] Many neighbors called the sheriff's

[3:06:41] office to come and investigate. The

[3:06:44] applicant did not have the courtesy to

[3:06:46] let the neighbors know what was going

[3:06:48] on.

[3:06:50] We later learned the applicants had

[3:06:52] invited people to come in and help with

[3:06:54] a sound test.

[3:06:56] My main concern is the traffic in front

[3:06:58] of my daughter's house every Friday,

[3:07:01] Saturday, Sunday, and holiday. How would

[3:07:04] you like to wake up to the possibility

[3:07:06] of a line of vehicles in front of your

[3:07:08] house waiting for the park to open? How

[3:07:11] would you like to sit on your front

[3:07:12] porch and watch anywhere from 30 to 125

[3:07:16] vehicles drive in and out every weekend

[3:07:20] and holiday? Her children will no longer

[3:07:22] be able to go outside alone due to

[3:07:24] stranger danger. This would turn a quiet

[3:07:28] country lane into an overrun busy throw

[3:07:31] affair every weekend and holiday. We

[3:07:34] have already posted no trespassing signs

[3:07:37] to hopefully keep people off of her

[3:07:39] property. If this cup is passed, we will

[3:07:42] be forced to install a privacy fence in

[3:07:45] front of her home. The driveway will

[3:07:47] also be roped off to keep vehicles from

[3:07:50] using it as a turnaround. Thank you for

[3:07:52] your service to Powaton County.

[3:07:54] >> Thank you.

[3:07:58] » Good evening. My name is Samantha Piper,

[3:08:00] 4301 Old Buckingham Road. I would like

[3:08:02] to speak on the environmental impact of

[3:08:04] Throttle Therapy's proposed business, as

[3:08:06] I believe that impact was minimized to a

[3:08:08] large extent in both the presentations

[3:08:10] for the park and in the planning staff

[3:08:12] report. The site lies within the upper

[3:08:14] Appamatics River corridor directly

[3:08:15] across from the Amelia Wildlife

[3:08:17] Management Area and includes mature

[3:08:18] forests, wetlands, and streams that

[3:08:20] support diverse wildlife, including

[3:08:22] migratory birds. As previously

[3:08:23] mentioned, while a physical trail may

[3:08:25] take up little space itself,

[3:08:26] environmental disturbance involves

[3:08:28] broader surrounding areas in the natural

[3:08:30] landscape. This business would impact

[3:08:32] not just this propert, but all of the

[3:08:34] previously mentioned surrounding

[3:08:36] properties in addition to all of the

[3:08:37] homeowners. Ample research has

[3:08:39] demonstrated a clear negative impact

[3:08:40] from off-road vehicle trail use on

[3:08:42] entire ecological systems. Wildlife is

[3:08:44] harmed and displaced. Vegetation is

[3:08:46] damaged or altered. And the land itself

[3:08:47] is irreparably degraded. Many studies

[3:08:50] have found profound impacts on

[3:08:51] vegetation. Effects include vegetation

[3:08:53] loss, reduced height, greatly reduced

[3:08:54] cover, and increased injury to

[3:08:56] vegetation itself. These effects can

[3:08:58] facilitate the spread of invasive

[3:08:59] species such as kudzu, which can easily

[3:09:02] and aggressively take root in freshly

[3:09:04] disted ground. I don't know if you know

[3:09:05] how hard kudzu is to deal with, but it's

[3:09:07] a nightmare. Besides wildlife and

[3:09:09] vegetation, the actual land itself is

[3:09:11] negatively impacted. Off-road vehicle

[3:09:13] activity leads to soil compaction, soil

[3:09:15] penetration resistance, and altered soil

[3:09:17] chemistry. Physical alterations to the

[3:09:19] soil structure occur, resulting in

[3:09:20] erosion, and changes to hydrarology.

[3:09:22] Runoff said sediments into streams,

[3:09:24] degrading water quality, and damaging

[3:09:26] habitat critical for fish spawning and

[3:09:27] freshwater muscles. These impacts have

[3:09:29] been shown to occur even when no new

[3:09:31] trails are constructed and even under

[3:09:32] sporadic use. Recently, a motorsports

[3:09:35] park in Pennsylvania County was shut

[3:09:36] down partially due to the considerable

[3:09:38] effect they were having on the soil. It

[3:09:40] is also significant that Powatin's

[3:09:42] comprehensive plan designates all of the

[3:09:44] property as priority conservation area

[3:09:46] or otherwise protected land. The county

[3:09:48] already knows this land is particularly

[3:09:50] vulnerable and worth protecting. This

[3:09:52] significant environmental impact clearly

[3:09:53] conflicts with the intent of priority

[3:09:55] conservation area designation. The plan

[3:09:57] also notes that property zoned A10

[3:09:59] within these areas should not be

[3:10:00] reszoned to a higher intensity zoning

[3:10:01] classification. It seems clear that a

[3:10:03] motorsports park inviting hundreds of

[3:10:05] riders a day, as stated in their cup,

[3:10:07] would absolutely lead to higher

[3:10:08] intensity use than what is intended. In

[3:10:10] my opinion, granting this use in this

[3:10:12] location would lead to profound

[3:10:13] irreversible negative impact on the

[3:10:14] local environment and essentially amount

[3:10:16] to approving a loophole circumventing

[3:10:18] the intent of a zone zoning. A10 zoning

[3:10:21] powatin's rural character and natural

[3:10:23] resources are among its most valuable

[3:10:25] assets, and once lost, they are

[3:10:26] impossible to restore. I respectfully

[3:10:28] ask you to consider the long-term

[3:10:30] environmental impacts and the

[3:10:31] incompatibility of this intensive

[3:10:32] commercial use within this sensitive

[3:10:34] environmental setting and vote to deny

[3:10:36] recommendation. Thank you for your time

[3:10:37] and for your service to Powatin County.

[3:10:39] >> Thank you.

[3:10:43] » Good evening, chair, members, and the

[3:10:45] board. My name is Eric Burr and I reside

[3:10:46] at 12554 Gento Road in Ameilia

[3:10:49] Courthouse, Virginia. My home is located

[3:10:52] approximately 150 ft from a proposed

[3:10:54] trail.

[3:10:56] Um, the property lies I'm not here to

[3:10:59] discuss my concerns. I'm here to talk

[3:11:00] about the ones that don't have a voice,

[3:11:02] and that's the wildlife. This property

[3:11:04] lies within the Appamatics River

[3:11:06] Preservation Corridor and migration

[3:11:10] for a wide variety of species. This is a

[3:11:12] thriving ecosystem.

[3:11:15] One species of particular concern is the

[3:11:17] northern long-eared bat, which is

[3:11:19] federally listed as endangered. Under

[3:11:22] the Endangered Species Act, the

[3:11:23] Appamatics River Corridor is a known

[3:11:25] habitat for these bats and they depend

[3:11:27] on roosting, breeding, and raising their

[3:11:29] young. The US Fish and Wildlife Service

[3:11:31] and the Virginia Department of Wildlife

[3:11:33] Resources recognize the protection of

[3:11:36] maternity colonies and roost habitat as

[3:11:38] a critical conservation priority. The

[3:11:41] Northern Long Ear bat relies on quiet,

[3:11:43] undisturbed horse habitat to roost,

[3:11:47] forage, and successfully rear its young.

[3:11:49] Disturbance during the maternity season,

[3:11:51] generally from midmay through August,

[3:11:53] can interfere with breeding and pup

[3:11:55] rearing activities and raises serious

[3:11:57] concerns under the Endangered Species

[3:11:59] Act when habitat supporting endangered

[3:12:02] bats is adversely affected. The

[3:12:04] Endangered Species Act prohibits the

[3:12:06] unauthorized disturbance of all

[3:12:08] endangered species such as the northern

[3:12:10] long-eared bat. Migatory Bird Treaty Act

[3:12:14] prevents protects na native migatory

[3:12:16] birds, their nest, and their eggs. The

[3:12:19] bald eagle bald and golden eagle

[3:12:21] protection act prohibits disturbing bald

[3:12:23] or golden eagles in ways that interfere

[3:12:25] with breeding, feeding, sheltering,

[3:12:27] productivity or cause nest abandonment.

[3:12:30] The Clean Water Act prevents protects

[3:12:33] wetlands, streams, and waters connected

[3:12:35] to the Appamatics River. This is not

[3:12:38] simply a land use decision. It's a

[3:12:40] decision about whether we protect a

[3:12:42] critical wildlife corridor or place it

[3:12:44] at risk. We can build recreation

[3:12:46] facilities elsewhere. We cannot recreate

[3:12:49] an endangered bat's habitat. We cannot

[3:12:53] replace wetlands once they are damaged.

[3:12:56] And we cannot restore wildlife corridor

[3:12:59] once its ecological

[3:13:01] function is lost. The Endangered Species

[3:13:04] Act, the Matory Treaty Act, Matory Bird

[3:13:07] Treaty Act, the Bald and Golden Eagle

[3:13:09] Protection Act, and the Clean Water Act

[3:13:11] exist because we have learned that once

[3:13:13] critical habitat is lost, the species

[3:13:15] that depend on it often disappear as

[3:13:17] well. Violations can result in

[3:13:19] substantial fines, criminal penalties,

[3:13:22] imprisonment, or both. Future

[3:13:24] generations will never ask why we

[3:13:26] protect an endangered species, clean

[3:13:28] water, and wildlife habitat, but they

[3:13:30] will ask why we failed to protect them

[3:13:32] when we had the chance. For the northern

[3:13:35] long-ear bat, migatory birds, bald

[3:13:37] eagles, hawks, the Appamax River, its

[3:13:39] wetlands, and the natural heritage of

[3:13:41] both Palatan and Ameilia counties, I

[3:13:43] respectfully ask you to vote no and deny

[3:13:45] this application. Thank you.

[3:13:47] >> Thank you.

[3:13:53] Good evening, chairman and members of

[3:13:54] the board. My name is Katherine

[3:13:56] Freedomire and I am from district 1. I'm

[3:13:58] here tonight asking that you deny the

[3:14:00] conditional use permit for proposed

[3:14:01] thyrotheral therapy motor sports and

[3:14:03] campground. I want to be clear that I am

[3:14:05] not opposed to motor motor sports or

[3:14:08] responsible development in Palan. My

[3:14:10] concern is whether this isn't the right

[3:14:12] use for this specific location.

[3:14:15] This proposal is approximately 711 acres

[3:14:17] of motorsports and campground RV use if

[3:14:20] that is allowed to be done in the

[3:14:22] future.

[3:14:25] Assessed from the end of RIP access from

[3:14:28] the end of River Estates Road about 3/4

[3:14:30] of a mile from Rocky Ford Road. The

[3:14:32] county's comprehensive plan designates

[3:14:34] this area as rural areas and natural

[3:14:36] conservation. That designation matters

[3:14:39] because the impacts of the property of

[3:14:40] this scale do not stop the at the

[3:14:42] property lines. Every vehicle, trailer,

[3:14:45] RV, employee, and visitor must travel

[3:14:47] our rural road network to reach the

[3:14:49] site. These roads were not designed for

[3:14:51] this level of traffic or intensity. This

[3:14:54] is not just inconvenience. It's a matter

[3:14:56] of public safety. Increased traffic from

[3:14:58] high volume recreational use increases

[3:15:00] the risk of serious accidents. And when

[3:15:02] incidents occur, who must we must ask

[3:15:06] who responds?

[3:15:08] Pouty and Fire and Rescue already serves

[3:15:10] a growing county with limited resources,

[3:15:12] handling more than 9,000 emergency 911

[3:15:16] calls and over 60,000 total calls

[3:15:18] annually. According to last report, our

[3:15:20] emergency personnel cannot be everywhere

[3:15:22] at once and they must still travel these

[3:15:24] same rural roads to reach this site. In

[3:15:27] an emergency, minutes matter. We must

[3:15:30] also consider the surrounding community.

[3:15:32] This area includes established farms and

[3:15:34] a strong ecoin community. Horses depend

[3:15:37] on a calm and predictable environment.

[3:15:39] Motorsports activity induces constant

[3:15:41] engine noise, sudden acceleration, and

[3:15:43] increased traffic. A frightened horse is

[3:15:46] not a minor issue. It can result in

[3:15:48] injury to the animal, the rider, or

[3:15:50] those handling it on the ground. That is

[3:15:52] a real and legitimate safety concern.

[3:15:54] I've been a horsewoman for over 40

[3:15:56] years. I have been injured multiple

[3:15:59] times, had falls at shows in Palatan

[3:16:02] County, broken bones, and at that time

[3:16:05] rescue was not available due to being

[3:16:07] called out for another accident

[3:16:09] somewhere else. A frightened horse is

[3:16:12] not I'm sorry, we must also produce

[3:16:14] protect our water and environment. This

[3:16:16] property lies within anatics river

[3:16:18] wershed, includes environmentally

[3:16:19] sensitive areas. Any approval must

[3:16:22] ensure strong enforceable protections

[3:16:23] for wetlands, storm water, erosion,

[3:16:25] runoff, and groundwater before

[3:16:27] development occurs, not after the sorry

[3:16:30] after impacts are realized. Finally, I

[3:16:33] want to address the county zone process.

[3:16:35] When motorsport parts was considered in

[3:16:37] the zoning ordinance, the paneling

[3:16:39] commission voted against the amendment,

[3:16:41] noting the need for stronger standards.

[3:16:44] The board instead chose a conditional

[3:16:46] use permit process so conditions could

[3:16:48] be applied to individual projects. But

[3:16:50] conditions cannot fix fundamental

[3:16:52] incompatibilities. If the roads cannot

[3:16:54] safely handle the traffic, the emergency

[3:16:58] access is insufficient and other reasons

[3:17:01] behind at any case they will need to do

[3:17:04] the same conclusion and please do not

[3:17:06] approve the cup.

[3:17:08] >> Thank you.

[3:17:13] Good evening, Mr. Chairman and members

[3:17:15] of the board. My name is Matt Escobar,

[3:17:17] 975 Rocky Ford Road, and I'm asking you

[3:17:19] to deny the condition conditional use

[3:17:21] proposed for Throttle Therapy

[3:17:22] Motorsports Park. I want to make

[3:17:24] something clear at the offset. This is

[3:17:26] not a debate whether motorsports are

[3:17:28] good or bad. People should have places

[3:17:29] to enjoy these activities. The question

[3:17:31] before you was much narrower. Is this

[3:17:34] the right for this particular property

[3:17:36] in Palatan County? I believe the answer

[3:17:38] is no. And I am not alone in reaching

[3:17:40] that conclusion. After reviewing this

[3:17:42] proposal and hearing from the public,

[3:17:43] the Palotan Planning Commission voted 50

[3:17:46] to recommend denial. That unanimous vote

[3:17:49] deserves significant weight. Five

[3:17:50] commissioners considered this proposal

[3:17:52] and not one voted for approval. I won't

[3:17:54] spend my limited time repeating

[3:17:56] everything the planning commission

[3:17:57] discussed, but the concerns they

[3:17:59] identified, including traffic, public

[3:18:00] safety, demands on resources, ingress

[3:18:03] and egress, noise, pollution, and impact

[3:18:05] of the neighboring properties have not

[3:18:07] been resolved. I would also like to

[3:18:09] address some of the arguments being made

[3:18:10] in support of this project. We have

[3:18:12] heard suggestions that there that the

[3:18:14] alternative to this proposal could be a

[3:18:16] data center or a housing development.

[3:18:18] There are no such proposals before you

[3:18:20] tonight. We've also heard that this

[3:18:22] project is needed to pro provide trails

[3:18:24] and access to nature. But directly

[3:18:26] across from the river more than 2200 acres of public land in the Amelia

[3:18:31] Wildlife Management Area. Those

[3:18:33] arguments should not distract you from

[3:18:34] the question before you. Is a commercial

[3:18:37] motorsports park an appropriate use for

[3:18:39] this property? Property rights matter,

[3:18:41] but so do the property rights of the

[3:18:43] people who actually live nearby, own

[3:18:45] land, and operate businesses. A

[3:18:47] landowner's right to use private

[3:18:49] property should not automatically

[3:18:50] outweigh the effects that an intensive

[3:18:53] commercial use may have on the

[3:18:54] surrounding property owners and

[3:18:56] characters of the comm character of the

[3:18:57] community. Throttle therapy may be a

[3:18:59] worthwhile concept somewhere, but that

[3:19:02] does not mean this is the right place

[3:19:03] for it. The planning commission has done

[3:19:05] its job. It's reviewed the proposal,

[3:19:07] considered its impacts, and unanimously

[3:19:10] recommended denial. Now, the decision is

[3:19:12] yours. I respectfully ask that the board

[3:19:14] follow that recommendation. Protect the

[3:19:16] residents, businesses that are already

[3:19:18] there, protect POW's rural character,

[3:19:21] and deny this conditional use permit.

[3:19:23] Thank you for your time and your service

[3:19:24] to Powan County.

[3:19:26] >> Thank you.

[3:19:30] » Good evening, and thank you for your

[3:19:32] time. My name is Melissa Christian at

[3:19:33] 1950 Pine Creek Ridge Terrace. I live on

[3:19:36] District 2. Um, so I do want to be

[3:19:39] clear. I am not opposed to motorsports.

[3:19:41] We have our Harleyies, we have our

[3:19:43] Jeeps, and we love outdoor adventuring.

[3:19:46] However, we do not think this is the

[3:19:48] right location for this particular

[3:19:50] activity. I've repeatedly heard that

[3:19:52] there is nothing out to do in Powatan

[3:19:55] for families, and that's just simply not

[3:19:57] true. We have a beautiful state park. We

[3:20:00] have the James River where there's

[3:20:01] hiking, biking trails, kaying, fishing,

[3:20:04] boating, horseback riding, hunting, and

[3:20:06] many other ways to enjoy the outdoors.

[3:20:09] And motorsports are not prohibited here.

[3:20:11] People with sufficient acreage can ride

[3:20:13] on their own property. The question is

[3:20:15] whether a commercial motorsports park

[3:20:17] belongs on this particular 718 acres of

[3:20:20] land that are surrounded by residents,

[3:20:23] farms, and businesses that depend upon

[3:20:25] the rural character and relative peace

[3:20:27] of this area while also raising

[3:20:29] legitimate concerns about wildlife,

[3:20:31] waterways, noise, dust, and increased

[3:20:33] traffic. I've also heard, would you

[3:20:35] rather have houses or a data center? And

[3:20:37] that's just a false choice. There's no

[3:20:40] data center proposal before you tonight.

[3:20:42] And housing and a powersports park are

[3:20:44] not equivalent. Housing is a basic human

[3:20:47] need. A powersports park is recreation.

[3:20:50] You cannot have a growing population

[3:20:52] while insisting housing never grow with

[3:20:54] it. Taken to its logical conclusion, if

[3:20:57] we truly want no additional homes in

[3:20:59] Powatan, we'd also have to stop having

[3:21:02] children.

[3:21:04] So obviously that is not uh realistic

[3:21:06] nor desirable. Housing growth should be

[3:21:09] managed responsibly, but a family's need

[3:21:11] for a home is fundamentally different

[3:21:12] from someone's desire to have their

[3:21:15] recreational hobby closer to home. And

[3:21:17] that brings me to the riders themselves.

[3:21:19] The people participating in this sport

[3:21:22] bought their bikes, trailers, and

[3:21:24] equipment before the idea of this of the

[3:21:26] park ever existed. They chose this hobby

[3:21:29] already knowing that participating might

[3:21:31] require owning enough land to ride or

[3:21:33] traveling to an appropriate riding

[3:21:35] facility. The riders chose their hobby

[3:21:38] knowing its requirements. The neighbors

[3:21:40] chose their homes knowing the existing

[3:21:43] character of the area. The neighbors

[3:21:45] aren't asking riders to change their way

[3:21:47] of life. The proposal is asking the

[3:21:50] neighbors to change theirs. I understand

[3:21:53] that driving an hour to ride is

[3:21:55] inconvenient, but your convenience

[3:21:57] should not come at your neighbor's

[3:22:00] permanent burden. And equally important,

[3:22:02] you don't get to divi define what is or

[3:22:04] isn't burden for somebody else. If you

[3:22:07] won't be living beside the noise,

[3:22:09] breathing the dust, dealing with the

[3:22:10] additional traffic, or experiencing

[3:22:12] changes to the peace and character of

[3:22:14] your property, you cannot tell people

[3:22:17] what their that their concerns are not

[3:22:19] significant. Power 10's rural character

[3:22:22] isn't simply the absence of houses. It's

[3:22:25] our farms, horses, wildlife, waterways,

[3:22:28] open spaces, neighbors, and peace and

[3:22:29] quiet. Not I'm not asking you to reject

[3:22:32] motorsports in Powan. I'm just asking

[3:22:34] you to reject this location. Thank you

[3:22:36] for your time.

[3:22:37] >> Thank you.

[3:22:45] » Good evening, Mr. Chairman. Um my name

[3:22:47] is Wanda Escobar, 975 Rocky Ford Road.

[3:22:51] For almost 35 years, I have operated

[3:22:54] Saddlebrook Stables. I am asking you to

[3:22:57] deny the conditional use permit for

[3:22:58] throttle therapy. For me, it isn't an

[3:23:00] abstract discussion about land use. This

[3:23:03] is my home, my farm, my livelihood, and

[3:23:06] something I have spent nearly 35 years

[3:23:08] building. My property would be one of

[3:23:10] the largest tracks directly affected by

[3:23:12] this proposed motor sports park. Anyone

[3:23:16] who has spent time around horses that ex

[3:23:19] understands that they can be extremely

[3:23:21] sensitive to sudden unfamiliar sights,

[3:23:23] sounds, a frightening horse is a danger

[3:23:26] to everyone around. That's why placing a

[3:23:29] motorsports parked next to an

[3:23:31] established horse farm concerns me so

[3:23:33] deeply. For decades, I have invested my

[3:23:36] time and money into creating a safe

[3:23:37] environment to keep, ride, and care for

[3:23:39] horses and to teach other um young

[3:23:43] children and adults how to ride their

[3:23:45] horses. The repeated sound of

[3:23:47] motorcycles and ATVs accelerating and

[3:23:50] operating nearby would introduce

[3:23:51] something completely different from the

[3:23:53] normal sounds of rural agricultural

[3:23:55] life. I've heard a great deal about what

[3:23:58] can be done to make this new business

[3:23:59] work. I want to ask you to consider the

[3:24:04] business that's already there. Me, I did

[3:24:07] not move next to a motorsports park.

[3:24:10] They are asking permission to move next

[3:24:12] to my farm. I have operated legally and

[3:24:15] responsibly on this property for nearly

[3:24:17] 35 years. I should not have to change my

[3:24:20] operation, accept new safety risk, or

[3:24:22] potentially close my farm because the

[3:24:24] county approves an incompatible

[3:24:26] commercial use next door. Agriculture

[3:24:29] isn't something we just talk about

[3:24:31] preserving in Powatan. These are real

[3:24:33] people operating real farms who depend

[3:24:35] upon the rural character of this county.

[3:24:40] The supporters say they need a place to

[3:24:42] ride. Well, so do I. I ride and I need a

[3:24:46] place to ride on my property and so do

[3:24:48] the hundreds of folks who have come

[3:24:50] through my property. My therapy is the

[3:24:53] horses.

[3:24:54] I respectfully ask you to deny this

[3:24:57] conditional use permit and allow me to

[3:24:59] continue doing what I have done here for

[3:25:01] almost 35 years.

[3:25:02] >> Thank you.

[3:25:11] » My name is John Schlicking. District 4.

[3:25:15] Um,

[3:25:17] I spoke at the planning commission

[3:25:19] meeting regarding the potential impact

[3:25:20] this proposed motor park could have on

[3:25:23] the property values of the surrounding

[3:25:25] homes. At that meeting, I explained that

[3:25:27] my concern was not hypothetical.

[3:25:30] My home is currently for sale and

[3:25:32] prospective buyers who viewed the

[3:25:34] property specifically raised the

[3:25:36] proposed motor park as a concern and a

[3:25:38] reason they were not interested in

[3:25:40] pursuing the purchase. Since that

[3:25:43] meeting, the situation has become even

[3:25:44] more concrete. We have now had another

[3:25:47] prospective buyer cancel a scheduled

[3:25:49] showing because the proposed motor park.

[3:25:52] I think that it is important for the

[3:25:53] board to consider. We don't have to

[3:25:56] speculate about whether the possibility

[3:25:58] of a motocross facility can affect

[3:26:01] nearby homeowners. We are already seeing

[3:26:03] an effect before the facility has even

[3:26:06] been approved. And the financial impact

[3:26:08] does not stop with individual

[3:26:10] homeowners. If surrounding property

[3:26:12] values decline, those decreases will

[3:26:15] eventually be reflected in property

[3:26:16] assessments. Lower assessments mean

[3:26:19] lower real estate tax revenue to Powatan

[3:26:21] County. So, when considering the

[3:26:23] economic benefit this product project

[3:26:26] may bring to the county, I believe the

[3:26:28] board should also consider the potential

[3:26:30] economic loss created by declining home

[3:26:33] values and of the existing tax base

[3:26:36] surrounding it. My family and other

[3:26:38] homeowners in this area made significant

[3:26:40] investments in our properties based on

[3:26:43] the existing character and use of this

[3:26:45] community. We should not have to absorb

[3:26:48] a reduction in the marketability or the

[3:26:50] value of our homes so that the private

[3:26:52] commercial venture that this private

[3:26:56] commercial venture can operate in a

[3:26:58] location that may simply be incompatible

[3:27:00] with the surrounding residential

[3:27:01] properties. The planning commission

[3:27:04] voted unanimously 5 to zero to recommend

[3:27:07] denial of this cup. I respectfully ask

[3:27:10] the board to consider not only the

[3:27:12] noise, traffic, environmental, and other

[3:27:14] concerns that have been raised tonight,

[3:27:16] but also the very real financial

[3:27:18] consequences for the families who

[3:27:20] already live here and ultimately for

[3:27:23] Powatam County itself. Please protect

[3:27:26] the investments existing Powatam

[3:27:28] homeowners have made in this community

[3:27:30] and deny this cup. Thank you.

[3:27:33] >> Thank you.

[3:27:39] » Hello, I'm Danielle Stevens. I'm at 3116

[3:27:43] Timber Trace um Court District 2. Um I

[3:27:47] wasn't planning to speak today um as

[3:27:49] I've already written those letters that

[3:27:51] you've already received. I don't like

[3:27:53] speaking in public. I get very very

[3:27:54] nervous but I wanted to stand up today

[3:27:58] to speak to you. Before I get into my

[3:28:00] personal reasons for standing up, I

[3:28:02] wanted to say that I agree with that

[3:28:04] what others have already stated about

[3:28:06] environmental impacts, infrastructure

[3:28:08] and public safety, noise and property

[3:28:11] values. I wanted to also speak about the

[3:28:14] noise. I'm one of those people um that

[3:28:17] those gentlemen um at Thought of Therapy

[3:28:19] have talked about. I grew up with a mom

[3:28:21] that had schizophrenia, bipolar, and

[3:28:24] multiple personality disorder. My

[3:28:27] husband and I moved to Powatan for the

[3:28:29] peace. I didn't grow up in a safe um

[3:28:32] household. My home in Powatan is the

[3:28:36] first time I've ever felt safe. Um it is

[3:28:39] a sanctuary for me where I enjoy most

[3:28:41] weekends um sitting on my front porch

[3:28:44] listening to the quiet of the wildlife.

[3:28:46] This is my therapy. Um, we could clearly

[3:28:50] hear them on Sunday, May 17th, and

[3:28:53] Saturday, June 20th. So, please don't

[3:28:56] take away my sanctuary, my therapy.

[3:28:59] Please deny the coat. Thank you for your

[3:29:01] time.

[3:29:02] >> Thank you,

[3:29:06] » Heather Escobar, 975 Rocky Ford Road.

[3:29:10] Good [clears throat] evening, board. I

[3:29:12] am speaking tonight to ask that you deny

[3:29:14] the proposed throttle therapy cup. I

[3:29:16] spoke at the planning commission meeting

[3:29:18] in regards to the environmental concerns

[3:29:20] that I have as a National Geographic

[3:29:22] certified educator and conservationist.

[3:29:25] However, tonight I would like to make

[3:29:27] this more personal and express my safety

[3:29:29] concerns towards our family presented

[3:29:32] from this whole process. After politely

[3:29:35] discussing concerns that I had for our

[3:29:37] family horse farm located at 975 Rocky

[3:29:40] Ford Road, um I was met with threats and

[3:29:43] cussed out on social media. social media

[3:29:46] by supporters of throttle therapy. Our

[3:29:49] family keeps to ourselves and are very

[3:29:51] private in regards to our daughter's

[3:29:53] successful horse riding career. In 2023,

[3:29:57] she represented the USA for region 1 at

[3:29:59] the North American Youth Championships,

[3:30:02] otherwise known as the Junior Olympics.

[3:30:04] She participated in the Parade of

[3:30:06] Nations and competed against riders from

[3:30:09] countries as far away as Argentina. She

[3:30:12] travels to different states to qualify

[3:30:14] for this competition and we knew this

[3:30:16] first when we purchased the horse and we

[3:30:19] don't complain about it. Um she is

[3:30:23] currently training a young horse to

[3:30:24] represent the USA again at the same

[3:30:26] competition and trains out of the family

[3:30:29] farm with international trainers. She

[3:30:32] also trains with high-profile trainers

[3:30:34] including George Williams who is the

[3:30:36] president of the United States DR

[3:30:38] Federation and the USA Youth Coach. If

[3:30:41] this motorsports park were to be placed

[3:30:42] directly next to our horse farm, she and

[3:30:45] many others would be unable to continue

[3:30:47] training at this location and clinics

[3:30:49] that are currently held at our farm

[3:30:51] would be unable to continue. Horses are

[3:30:54] bred for a variety of reasons and while

[3:30:56] the supporters will mention seeing

[3:30:58] videos of horses and dirt bike riders

[3:31:00] riding side by side, Dr. horses are

[3:31:03] different. They compete in a quiet

[3:31:06] environment with minimal distractions.

[3:31:08] Even if you watch the Olympics, you'll

[3:31:10] see DR horses spooking in the ring, even

[3:31:13] when it's quiet. Due to this very public

[3:31:16] process and our safety concerns after

[3:31:18] being threatened online, her horse is

[3:31:20] now no longer located in Powatan. Now I

[3:31:24] ask you why our daughter's training as a

[3:31:26] previous and soontobe again member of

[3:31:28] the USA D team at our family farm which

[3:31:31] has been here for 35 years my

[3:31:33] mother-in-law just spoke should be

[3:31:36] ceased in order to accommodate a

[3:31:37] motorsports park supporting mostly out

[3:31:40] of town visitors including the owners of

[3:31:43] the proposed site.

[3:31:45] You have a junior Olympian with a bronze

[3:31:47] medal using a farm here in Powatan to

[3:31:50] train. If you approve this cup, Powatan

[3:31:52] will lose this honor as she will no

[3:31:55] longer safely be able to train on the

[3:31:57] family farm that she will inherit in the

[3:31:59] future. Thank you for your time and your

[3:32:01] service.

[3:32:02] >> Thank you.

[3:32:06] » Dr. Nicole Shot, aologist, 7:30

[3:32:08] Appamatics Trace. Tonight, I

[3:32:10] respectfully ask that you deny the

[3:32:11] throttle therapy cup. Throughout this

[3:32:13] process, we have repeatedly asked one

[3:32:14] fundamental question. What will a fully

[3:32:16] operating motorsports park actually

[3:32:18] sound like to the people who live around

[3:32:19] it? Following throttle therapy sound

[3:32:21] demonstration, I contacted Dr.

[3:32:23] Robertson, a professor whose work

[3:32:25] includes physics and acoustics of

[3:32:26] motorcycle noise. I provided him with

[3:32:28] the existing track layouts, land survey,

[3:32:30] demonstration methodology, and a

[3:32:32] photograph of the sound level meter and

[3:32:33] its settings. His conclusion should

[3:32:35] concern this board. Using standard sound

[3:32:37] propagation calculations, Dr. Robertson

[3:32:39] estimated that a dirt bike producing

[3:32:41] approximately 96 dBA at the half meter

[3:32:43] could produce roughly 70 dBA at 150 ft

[3:32:46] under flat reflective conditions. He

[3:32:48] also modeled a 100 dirt bikes operating

[3:32:50] simultaneously near the center of this

[3:32:51] complex at approximately 1 half mile. He

[3:32:54] calculated potential maximum of roughly

[3:32:56] 80 dBA at the property boundary. He

[3:32:58] acknowledged that terrain vegetation

[3:33:00] could reduce that level, but ultimately

[3:33:02] stated that he strongly suspects nearby

[3:33:04] residents would be impacted by track

[3:33:05] noise and that the facility would be

[3:33:07] plainly audible. That matters in an

[3:33:09] exceptionally quiet rural environment.

[3:33:11] Dr. Robertson explained that the ambient

[3:33:12] sound here could be as low as 30 to 35

[3:33:14] dBA. Against that background, even

[3:33:17] approximately 50 dBA would be clearly

[3:33:19] discernible. Dirt bike noise also

[3:33:21] contains low frequency components that

[3:33:22] can travel significant distances, and a

[3:33:24] single broadband measurement does not

[3:33:26] fully characterize how intrusive that

[3:33:27] sound would be. His analysis helped

[3:33:29] explains what residents experienced

[3:33:31] during that demonstration. The reported

[3:33:33] number suggested one thing. While

[3:33:34] residents standing on their own

[3:33:35] properties could clearly hear the dirt

[3:33:37] bikes. Additionally, there were

[3:33:38] significant limitations in that demo,

[3:33:40] including no documented calibration

[3:33:42] information, measurements primarily in

[3:33:44] one direction, no established ambient

[3:33:46] baseline, limited monitoring, and no

[3:33:48] meaningful analysis of the frequency

[3:33:50] characteristics. Even the planning

[3:33:51] director's report acknowledges that the

[3:33:53] demonstration was not a formal

[3:33:54] acoustical study and was not intended to

[3:33:56] establish compliance with the noise

[3:33:57] ordinance. And tonight, you're not

[3:33:59] considering that limited demo. You're

[3:34:01] considering a long-term facility

[3:34:02] allowing up to 150 riders during regular

[3:34:05] operations and up to potentially 500

[3:34:06] participants during special events.

[3:34:08] Palatan's ordinance asked whether dirt

[3:34:10] bike noise is plainly audible at 150 ft.

[3:34:13] Yet, we still don't have an adequate

[3:34:14] independent independent acoustical study

[3:34:16] demonstrating the full operations of

[3:34:18] this cup. These concerns all converge.

[3:34:21] Residents heard the the dirt bikes. The

[3:34:23] Palatan AFDAC independently raised

[3:34:25] concerns about sound extending beyond

[3:34:27] the property and a neutral third-party

[3:34:29] review reached many of the same

[3:34:31] conclusions. Noise is more than an

[3:34:33] inconvenience. Chronic environmental

[3:34:34] noise is associated with sleep

[3:34:36] disturbance, stress, hypertension,

[3:34:38] cardiovascular risk, impaired

[3:34:39] concentration, and diminished quality of

[3:34:41] life. It will also disrupt wildlife

[3:34:43] communication, breeding, and habitat

[3:34:45] use. These families chose this rural

[3:34:46] community for its peace and quiet. They

[3:34:48] should not have to sacrifice that first

[3:34:50] and then spend years filing complaints

[3:34:52] trying to get it back. The burden should

[3:34:54] be on the applicant to demonstrate

[3:34:55] compatibility before approval, not on

[3:34:57] residents to prove the harm afterward.

[3:34:59] Thank you.

[3:35:00] >> Thank you.

[3:35:04] » Hello. Um Ken Jamerson, uh 910 River

[3:35:08] States Court, District 2. Um it's going

[3:35:12] to be a bit of a surprise to my I'm in

[3:35:14] opposition of the of the cup. First off,

[3:35:16] I had a whole speech planned for the

[3:35:20] non-traditional sports that uh Palatan

[3:35:23] offers. Um, and my kids excelled at, but

[3:35:26] my consciousness got the best of me. So,

[3:35:28] I felt the need that I needed to uh

[3:35:30] write a new speech and present it and

[3:35:35] hopefully it'll make the point. And I'd

[3:35:36] like to start off by saying I want to

[3:35:38] apologize to the writing community for

[3:35:39] the statements that were made earlier.

[3:35:43] As you've already heard from the

[3:35:44] applicant tonight, and because of the

[3:35:45] plethora of misinformation and false

[3:35:47] narratives that we have been subjected

[3:35:49] to in the past four months, it's vitally

[3:35:52] important that this be stated on the

[3:35:54] record. I believe that I speak for

[3:35:57] probably every member of the opposition

[3:35:59] of the cup, with the exception of maybe

[3:36:01] one. I wish to be perfectly clear that

[3:36:04] in no way, shape, or form, do we ever

[3:36:07] condone the injury, whether by accident

[3:36:09] or purpose, as a means to resolve policy

[3:36:12] disputes. Wishing physical harm to

[3:36:15] anyone for any reason, is never

[3:36:17] acceptable to resolve community

[3:36:19] differences.

[3:36:21] I believe that this process should be

[3:36:22] honored and respected to manage the

[3:36:24] county in an orderly and responsible

[3:36:26] manner.

[3:36:28] On a personal note, I'm truly upset

[3:36:31] about the comment as well. Since the

[3:36:33] beginning of this application, I've

[3:36:34] worked to minimize the risks in our

[3:36:36] community and tried to convey the most

[3:36:38] truthful information that I could. I

[3:36:41] lost a close friend as a child to a dirt

[3:36:43] bike accident. I don't want to shed pain

[3:36:46] on anyone else. Thank you.

[3:36:48] >> Thank you.

[3:36:52] » Good evening, chairman and supervisors

[3:36:54] of the board. My name is Karen Dinardy.

[3:36:56] I live at 3289 Sparrow's Place in

[3:36:58] District 4. I come to you with some

[3:37:01] experience as a prior mortgage

[3:37:03] underwriter and current compliance

[3:37:04] adviser in the banking industry. There

[3:37:07] is a process for anybody who purchases a

[3:37:09] home, refinances a home, takes out a

[3:37:12] home equity loan that will involve the

[3:37:14] banking the bank determining if an

[3:37:17] appraised value of the home is required.

[3:37:20] Through this process, there is an option

[3:37:24] that will result most likely with the

[3:37:27] proposed motorsports park in a negative

[3:37:31] valuation in comparison to other sales

[3:37:34] in the area. It will be dependent upon

[3:37:37] proximity to the pro property and where

[3:37:40] the prior where the comparable sales

[3:37:42] are. Given that our property is within

[3:37:46] about a mile of the proposed property,

[3:37:49] there is most likely a detriment to our

[3:37:52] property value. That is not what I want

[3:37:55] to see. I've worked very hard to obtain

[3:37:58] what I own. I have lived in this county

[3:38:00] for 18 years now. I call this my home. I

[3:38:04] feel safe here. I moved from a home that

[3:38:06] was burglarized.

[3:38:08] This place made me feel safe again.

[3:38:12] On a second note, there are choices. We

[3:38:16] made a choice to purchase a property and

[3:38:18] build a house in an area that was zoned

[3:38:21] as residential and agricultural.

[3:38:25] There's a difference between moving into

[3:38:27] a location like that versus moving into

[3:38:30] a location that already has a proposed

[3:38:32] motorports park or already has a

[3:38:34] motorsports park. The addition of a

[3:38:37] motorsports park changes the landscape

[3:38:39] of the area.

[3:38:41] I ask and recommend that you agree with

[3:38:44] the planning department and the planning

[3:38:46] commission in denial of the cup. Thank

[3:38:49] you for your time and service.

[3:38:50] >> Thank you,

[3:38:55] » Mr. Chairman, members of the board. I'm

[3:38:56] Teresa Kelly, um, District 2. My husband

[3:38:59] and I have enjoyed living our peaceful

[3:39:01] in our peaceful neighborhood for 29

[3:39:03] years this month. First, I want to thank

[3:39:06] you for your dedication and service to

[3:39:08] our county and for the unimaginable

[3:39:10] amount of time, energy, and effort and

[3:39:12] that you and the county staff have spent

[3:39:14] on this application. I fully support the

[3:39:18] recommendation to deny this request, and

[3:39:20] I hope you do. Also, um I'm concerned

[3:39:23] about potential accidents and increased

[3:39:25] calls to our emergency services. While

[3:39:28] motorsports park, powers sports parks

[3:39:31] take precautions and put safety measures

[3:39:33] in place and riders know the risks and

[3:39:37] they sign waiverss. However, accidents

[3:39:40] still happen at the Lake Anna location.

[3:39:43] Track and trail use is strictly limited

[3:39:45] to on-site renters, maxing out at 23

[3:39:48] people. The owners hold an annual day

[3:39:51] riding event over two days with 130

[3:39:53] riders each day. Assuming the property

[3:39:56] is rented at full capacity on average

[3:39:58] four days a week for 51 weeks and they

[3:40:01] hold the annual day event, it could see

[3:40:04] 5,472 riders per year. For this proposed

[3:40:08] park, the applicants want to be open

[3:40:11] Friday through Sunday for 42 weeks plus

[3:40:14] seven federal holidays, maxing out at

[3:40:17] 150 riders per day. Plus, they want to

[3:40:20] have three special events with

[3:40:21] approximately 500 riders each day for

[3:40:23] two days. That is 22,950

[3:40:28] riders per year, a 400% more compared to

[3:40:32] Lake Anna. In the past year, they've had

[3:40:36] two emergency service calls to the

[3:40:38] property. I reviewed the emergency logs.

[3:40:40] One was a sidebyside rollover involving

[3:40:43] two people, one with a head injury. Both

[3:40:45] were transported toos to the local

[3:40:48] hospitals. The other one was a call. It

[3:40:51] was a head-on four-wheeler con collision

[3:40:54] involving a 5-year-old. My heart sank

[3:40:57] when I read this.

[3:40:59] The dispatch record noted that someone

[3:41:01] was screaming in the background, excuse

[3:41:03] [clears throat] me, and the child

[3:41:05] suffered lacerations to the forehead,

[3:41:07] arms, legs, and behind the ear and bru

[3:41:09] bruising and lacerations around the

[3:41:11] chest area. That child was transported

[3:41:13] to the hospital. I sincerely hope

[3:41:16] everybody in each of those accidents

[3:41:18] fully recovered. I mentioned these to

[3:41:20] bring attention to the fact that safety

[3:41:22] measures were in place. Precautions were

[3:41:24] taken yet accidents still happen. How

[3:41:27] many will happen here? Will poutine

[3:41:29] emergency service have the capacity to

[3:41:31] not only address an increase in calls on

[3:41:34] local roads but also this park? For

[3:41:36] these reasons and those that have

[3:41:37] already stated, it is my hope that you

[3:41:39] will also support the recommendation to

[3:41:41] deny this request. Thank you again for

[3:41:44] your dedication and service to our

[3:41:45] county.

[3:41:46] >> Thank you.

[3:41:52] Good [clears throat] evening, chairman

[3:41:53] and members of the board of supervisors.

[3:41:56] My name is Matt Fischer. I live in

[3:41:58] District 2. I own Plat 10, 945 River

[3:42:01] States Court, and I'm here to

[3:42:03] respectfully oppose case number 26-3 cup

[3:42:06] as currently conditioned.

[3:42:08] My concern is straightforward. The cup

[3:42:11] appears to require the loss or

[3:42:12] dedication of more than an acre of my

[3:42:14] private property. So, a private

[3:42:16] commercial motorsports facility can

[3:42:18] obtain roadway access it does not

[3:42:21] currently have.

[3:42:24] That is significant burden on one

[3:42:26] landowner for the benefit of a private

[3:42:28] applicant.

[3:42:30] I understand my plat states that the

[3:42:32] land is subject to public dedication,

[3:42:34] but that language should not be treated

[3:42:35] as a blank check to compel the transfer

[3:42:38] of private property whenever a

[3:42:40] commercial project needs infrastructure.

[3:42:43] Any taking or dedication should serve a

[3:42:45] legitimate public purpose, follow a

[3:42:47] clear legal process, include

[3:42:49] compensation where required, and be

[3:42:52] proportional to the proposed use.

[3:42:55] Because the dedication of my property

[3:42:57] appears to be a requirement of this cup,

[3:42:59] I requested a step-by-step explanation

[3:43:02] of how the county attends to acquire it

[3:43:05] for a public road to be adopted by VOTE.

[3:43:09] I have not received a response.

[3:43:16] that raises serious concerns about

[3:43:18] notice, due process, public purpose,

[3:43:20] compensation, and whether this condition

[3:43:22] is legally supportable. I don't know.

[3:43:25] The impact is real. If the dedication

[3:43:27] occurs, I lose more than an acre of

[3:43:29] land. I fall below the 10acre threshold

[3:43:31] for my A10 zoning. I lose acreage,

[3:43:34] property value, future land use,

[3:43:36] flexibility, and the zoning expectations

[3:43:38] that existed when I purchased the

[3:43:40] property. At the same time, nearby

[3:43:42] residents in the county will absorb the

[3:43:44] impacts of use increas incre increased

[3:43:47] traffic, roadware, noise, emergency

[3:43:50] response demands, enforcement concerns,

[3:43:52] and neighborhood disruption with no

[3:43:54] clear showing that the public benefit

[3:43:56] offsets those burdens.

[3:43:59] This also creates a dangerous precedent.

[3:44:01] If the county can condition approval of

[3:44:03] a private commercial project on the

[3:44:05] transfer or loss of neighboring owners

[3:44:07] land without first providing a clear

[3:44:10] legal process and justification, any

[3:44:12] rural land owner could face the same

[3:44:14] situation when an applicant needs access

[3:44:16] to infrastructure.

[3:44:18] I respectfully ask the board to deny

[3:44:20] case number 26-3 cup or a minimum remove

[3:44:24] any condition that depends on taking

[3:44:26] dedicating a burden in my property for

[3:44:28] the private commercial use. If the

[3:44:30] project cannot function without

[3:44:32] acquiring adjoining land and damaging

[3:44:34] existing property rights, it has not met

[3:44:36] its burden for approval. Private

[3:44:38] property should not be the price of

[3:44:39] admission for a private motorsports

[3:44:41] park. Please protect Powatan land owners

[3:44:43] A10 zoning and my property rights by

[3:44:46] refusing to let the cup move forward on

[3:44:48] the assumption that my land can be taken

[3:44:51] or used for access without a clear legal

[3:44:53] process and lawful public justification.

[3:44:57] Thank you for your time, your service,

[3:44:58] and your consideration.

[3:45:00] >> Thank you.

[3:45:05] » Hello, I'm Milton Weatherhead at 935

[3:45:08] River Estates Court.

[3:45:11] Um,

[3:45:13] last month in the uh committee meeting,

[3:45:15] there was a jaw-dropping moment.

[3:45:19] Okay. somebody that we didn't know from

[3:45:21] Palatan that attended that meeting and

[3:45:25] he shared with us that um his house, his

[3:45:31] trees, okay, were receiving bullets from

[3:45:34] across the river uh from Amelia Wildlife

[3:45:37] Refuge.

[3:45:39] Now,

[3:45:40] I don't know any parent that wants to

[3:45:42] see,

[3:45:44] you know, a child, even though it's a

[3:45:47] family event, you wounded or or shot

[3:45:50] down or or killed. I don't know of a of

[3:45:54] a government official that would like to

[3:45:57] set something up, the risk of a child or

[3:46:00] some adult being killed. And when I saw

[3:46:04] the maps today and how close that was, I

[3:46:09] thought it was important that you

[3:46:10] understand that uh they've already

[3:46:13] cleared out many of the trees.

[3:46:16] So those bullets from the hunters and

[3:46:19] Amelia that missed the deer are going

[3:46:23] straight across the river into that

[3:46:26] area. Okay, this it's a this is in some

[3:46:32] cases a life or death decision and I I

[3:46:36] oppose the uh proceeding

[3:46:41] for this this uh whatever they call it.

[3:46:44] But uh thank you.

[3:46:46] >> Thank you.

[3:46:51] » Good evening. Peter Shrivever, 916 Rocky

[3:46:54] Ford Road, District 2. I oppose the uh

[3:46:58] cup as it's been put together at this

[3:47:01] point. It strikes me as being a little

[3:47:03] bit like some of these bills in

[3:47:04] Washington where you have to pass the

[3:47:07] bill to figure out what's actually in it

[3:47:09] because we don't really know how we're

[3:47:11] going to access the property. There

[3:47:13] seems to be some questions that we just

[3:47:15] heard from the previous gentleman's. We

[3:47:17] have questions about the road

[3:47:18] conditions. We've talked to VOD a little

[3:47:20] bit about it, but we don't know is Rocky

[3:47:23] Ford Road going to be a safe turning

[3:47:25] access onto River Estates Road from

[3:47:28] either direction. I pull a 30-foot

[3:47:30] camper and I live on Rocky Ford Road. I

[3:47:33] always make a left turn no matter what

[3:47:36] direction I'm my final direction is

[3:47:38] going to be to my destination. But I

[3:47:41] make a left turn, get down to Jennato

[3:47:43] Road, so I can use roads like Dorset

[3:47:46] Road that are a little bit less twisty

[3:47:47] and turny than Rocky Ford just for

[3:47:50] safety. I think I can keep my trailer on

[3:47:54] Rocky Ford Road on the correct side of

[3:47:56] the road. Seems to be some people in

[3:47:58] Powatin that have a little difficulty

[3:48:00] with that once in a while.

[3:48:02] Uh then we also have the impression that

[3:48:05] sometimes it seems like we're going to

[3:48:07] have Granny from uh uh what was the

[3:48:10] show? But anyway, Granny who was always

[3:48:13] you sort of like this little meek mild

[3:48:15] lady driving a four-wheeler on the

[3:48:19] property and it's going to be a nice

[3:48:20] quiet little activity.

[3:48:22] The problem I have with that analysis is

[3:48:26] although they have to keep very careful

[3:48:28] records of the number of vehicles on the

[3:48:32] property, they don't have a check-in

[3:48:34] procedure that says we're going to

[3:48:37] enforce. And I suspect that and and

[3:48:39] trust the applicants will at some level,

[3:48:43] but it says that there'll be no modified

[3:48:46] exhaust systems. It'll be manufacturer

[3:48:48] specifications. I did a quick check on

[3:48:50] Amazon for motorcycle aftermarket

[3:48:53] motorcycle exhaust, found 945 and just

[3:48:57] hitting it once. So, how do you make

[3:48:59] that determination? Is there an exhaust

[3:49:02] or is there not? Now, I'm sure without

[3:49:04] the exhaust, you'll know it quick.

[3:49:08] But is the enforcement going to be

[3:49:10] calling up the county police sheriff's

[3:49:13] office and saying, "Hey, we think

[3:49:15] there's some noisy vehicles down there.

[3:49:18] Apparently, there's no requirement at

[3:49:20] this point that you do recordkeeping on

[3:49:22] that. And we all need therapy. I agree

[3:49:25] with that. Obviously, I need some

[3:49:29] uh I do it by pulling it going out of my

[3:49:33] driveway, making a left turn, running up

[3:49:36] the road, using my two feet. I do it by

[3:49:39] going over to the power tan pool and

[3:49:41] swimming. I also do it every morning.

[3:49:44] The dogs jump in bed and say, "Come on,

[3:49:46] Dad. Let's go for a walk out in the

[3:49:47] field. And we walk around my 6 and 1/2

[3:49:50] acre field that I fenced in one post at

[3:49:52] a time. And that's some of my therapy. I

[3:49:56] can hear the traffic on Janitor Road.

[3:50:01] Every morning when I'm doing that,

[3:50:03] that's how quiet the area can be. I will

[3:50:07] hear throttle therapy.

[3:50:10] My footsteps aren't that noisy. Thank

[3:50:13] you.

[3:50:18] Good evening. Kelly Crockett, District

[3:50:21] 5, Carterville Road. I'm here tonight to

[3:50:24] ask you to deny this conditional use

[3:50:26] permit. If this cup application is

[3:50:29] approved, even with the proposed

[3:50:31] condition requiring upgrades to the road

[3:50:34] and bridge to VOTE standards, you are

[3:50:38] essentially permitting a property rights

[3:50:41] dispute and exposing the county to

[3:50:44] litigation.

[3:50:45] Additionally, Powan County's current

[3:50:48] noise ordinance reads in part, "Sound

[3:50:51] produced by any motorbike, motorcycle,

[3:50:54] ATV, or by any other machine or device

[3:50:57] in such a manner or with such volume or

[3:51:00] duration that it is plainly audible at a

[3:51:03] distance of 150 ft or more from the

[3:51:06] sound source, or inside the confines of

[3:51:09] a dwelling unit, house, or apartment of

[3:51:12] another person, or plainly audible

[3:51:14] within a

[3:51:15] business or place of worship

[3:51:19] is prohibited.

[3:51:21] Um, I'm so excited for this to end

[3:51:24] tonight.

[3:51:26] Please deny this application. Thank you.

[3:51:30] >> Thank you.

[3:51:35] » Howdy. I'm [clears throat] just some guy

[3:51:37] from District 2. Um, I have a a thing

[3:51:41] I've been listening to everybody talking

[3:51:42] tonight is there it sounds like there um

[3:51:46] is a lot of things that would that come up

[3:51:52] to me as progression risk to be able to

[3:51:54] think through of um a proven something

[3:51:56] like this like a a lot of um downstream

[3:51:59] effects that would happen not only now

[3:52:01] but over the next proposed um 15 years.

[3:52:04] I I can only assume that these were

[3:52:05] things the um planning committee had

[3:52:07] gone over. I've tried to look online and

[3:52:10] it says like I'm citing noise and

[3:52:12] environmental concerns. Um this is

[3:52:15] somewhat of a um a question. I don't

[3:52:17] know if anybody here could point me in

[3:52:19] the right direction. Is is there any

[3:52:20] actual like report that they've put

[3:52:22] together that would have this kind of

[3:52:24] compiled this information. It's the same

[3:52:26] concerns seen coming up over and over

[3:52:28] where it's been kind of thought through

[3:52:30] and say this is our um you know this is

[3:52:33] what we hear as what your concerns are.

[3:52:36] um this is the impact that it would

[3:52:38] have. This is what we would plan to do

[3:52:40] on to mitigate it. These are things that

[3:52:42] are still outstanding. These are things

[3:52:44] that we just don't know. Like is there

[3:52:47] anywhere that this has been compiled to

[3:52:49] where this information would be

[3:52:52] available

[3:52:55] anybody in I mean I'd be willing.

[3:53:01] » No. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, thank

[3:53:02] you. If anybody's got that information,

[3:53:05] I would be more than ask.

[3:53:11] » Mike Chris, District 4.

[3:53:13] Uh,

[3:53:18] I work in Mechanicsville.

[3:53:21] I started watching this when it started.

[3:53:25] When this issue was brought up, I sat

[3:53:27] there and I watched the gentlemen come

[3:53:29] up and made their passionate plea.

[3:53:34] But everything I've watched and listened

[3:53:36] to on the hour drive back here.

[3:53:42] If you're a Washington politician,

[3:53:44] approve it.

[3:53:46] But if you are listening to your

[3:53:50] constituents,

[3:53:51] the people that put you where you are

[3:53:54] now,

[3:53:57] and you have not lied to them,

[3:54:02] then deny this request.

[3:54:05] >> Thank you.

[3:54:11] » I don't public speak either, so bear

[3:54:13] with me. My name is Judy Carter, 969

[3:54:15] Rocky Ford Road. My driveway is the

[3:54:19] access road. My house can see the access

[3:54:22] road. I hear every vehicle that goes

[3:54:25] down that road. I heard the hunters that

[3:54:28] went down that road. And that's when the

[3:54:30] ground was fully covered with trees. I

[3:54:33] heard the loggers. I heard them all. The noise that they produced on their

[3:54:38] test runs was unbearable. The dust that

[3:54:42] will come my way will be unbearable.

[3:54:46] I'm asking you to deny this. I've lived

[3:54:48] in this county all my life and on that

[3:54:50] property 40 years. Lots has changed and

[3:54:54] things will change, but this is not the

[3:54:57] right change. And signs have disappeared

[3:55:00] on ours too saying no motor parts. So,

[3:55:04] nobody's picking up signs and they're

[3:55:05] probably just kids acting out. But the

[3:55:08] fact of the matter is my therapy on my

[3:55:11] property is quiet.

[3:55:14] I don't mind an occasional car. I will

[3:55:16] hear 150 Friday, Saturday, and Sunday,

[3:55:21] and on holidays. That is not fair to me.

[3:55:25] Please vote no.

[3:55:27] >> Thank you.

[3:55:41] Curtis Gaunt, 3285 Sparrow's Place. My

[3:55:45] neighbor Karen's over there. My other

[3:55:46] neighbor John's over here. Worried about

[3:55:48] property values for sure. We heard a lot

[3:55:51] about their presentation about uh you

[3:55:54] know, making memories and families and

[3:55:56] that type of thing. And I think that's

[3:55:58] what the lady just said right here. This

[3:56:02] is our families. This is our memories

[3:56:03] and our weekends and our holidays and I

[3:56:06] have Thanksgiving in my house and

[3:56:08] everybody comes and they marvel at Look

[3:56:10] at everything. It's quiet out here. It's

[3:56:11] so quiet. This is great. Look at the

[3:56:13] animals out here. This isn't right. I'm

[3:56:16] in the blast zone, not circle or we're

[3:56:19] just outside, right? Depends on who's

[3:56:21] drawing the lines. But I don't want to

[3:56:24] hear it. I don't want to smell it. I

[3:56:25] don't want to drive around the traffic

[3:56:26] that that road can't handle. I don't

[3:56:29] want to have it in my water. Um, I don't

[3:56:32] have anything against ATVs or the people

[3:56:34] that ride them. Uh, I don't have

[3:56:37] anything about uh people making

[3:56:39] memories. I'm all about that. That's why

[3:56:41] I'm here. That's why we're in Pow Town.

[3:56:44] Um, I'm all for freedom like that guy

[3:56:46] said. But this is not the right place.

[3:56:50] Thank you.

[3:56:51] >> Thank you.

[3:57:10] My name is Lori Malcolm. I'm Judy

[3:57:12] Carter's sister, Betty Jane's cousin,

[3:57:15] and we're from the heritage of how this

[3:57:18] whole property got started. There are

[3:57:21] about 50 of us still that live in the

[3:57:23] county, still have raised their children

[3:57:25] in the county, some have stayed in the

[3:57:28] county, some's gone to surrounding

[3:57:29] counties, but just as the previous

[3:57:31] customer or client or taxpayer, whatever

[3:57:34] we're called, um, has stated, we have

[3:57:37] our holidays here. We have our children

[3:57:40] here. We stand, Judy and myself stand to

[3:57:43] inherit property right next to our

[3:57:46] father owns property still there that we

[3:57:48] jumped off of a rope into the creek into

[3:57:51] the Applamics River and our memories are

[3:57:53] here. We know that things change. We

[3:57:55] know that you as representatives see

[3:57:57] change and we know it's getting to be a

[3:58:00] late night. I thought that my father of

[3:58:02] 85 was going to come up and close the

[3:58:03] meeting, but I think he's probably said

[3:58:06] things in other meetings that I haven't

[3:58:07] been able to stay to meet. He is the

[3:58:10] oldest of our family heritage right now

[3:58:13] and he is here tonight. However, he

[3:58:16] probably feels like it's all been said.

[3:58:18] What I don't think has been said is all

[3:58:21] of us that were born in this county have

[3:58:23] lived in this county. We want the county

[3:58:25] to remain as country as it can for as

[3:58:27] long as it can. And of course, all of

[3:58:30] us, as previous people spoke, I'm a big

[3:58:32] motorcycle rider myself and horses and

[3:58:34] every other outdoor activity. Water is

[3:58:37] my friend. I we we have a lot of things

[3:58:40] going on in this county that I don't

[3:58:42] think the throttle therapy group knows

[3:58:44] about because obviously they didn't

[3:58:46] listen to the beginning of the meeting

[3:58:47] of all the wonderful outings that we

[3:58:49] have available to the county. I think

[3:58:51] it's a wonderful idea but not for this

[3:58:53] county. Thank you for your service.

[3:58:57] >> Thank you.

[3:59:01] » Yes, Daddy.

[3:59:03] [laughter]

[3:59:04] >> He'd like to speak from back there.

[3:59:09] » [laughter]

[3:59:11] >> Understood.

[3:59:15] » Anybody else?

[3:59:17] >> Yeah, I'll try.

[3:59:19] >> Get up.

[3:59:25] » I hate speaking. I'm nervous. My name is

[3:59:27] David Kelly. I live at 925 River States

[3:59:30] Court with my wife who's here tonight.

[3:59:32] sure by now that the board is well aware

[3:59:34] of all the many concerns that have been

[3:59:36] presented concerning the proposed

[3:59:37] motorsports park noise in the traffic

[3:59:40] and all the other things that have been

[3:59:41] mentioned. So I do not want to address

[3:59:44] that. What I do want to talk about is

[3:59:46] the people who have expressed these

[3:59:48] concerns concerns that they're very

[3:59:50] passionate about

[3:59:53] uh the individuals who will be affected

[3:59:55] in inconvenience the most by this park

[3:59:57] on a daily and an hourly basis. These

[4:00:00] are people who choose to live where they

[4:00:02] built their homes because of the peace

[4:00:04] and tranquility of Palatan County. Many

[4:00:07] of them have lived on their properties

[4:00:08] for decades. Some of the lands been

[4:00:11] passed down through generations.

[4:00:13] Most of the people expressing these

[4:00:15] concern live within a two-mile radius of

[4:00:17] the proposed location.

[4:00:19] It will most definitely have a severe

[4:00:21] effect on their daily lives. My entire

[4:00:24] neighborhood is well within this 2-m

[4:00:25] radius. There are also two businesses

[4:00:28] currently operating in close proximity

[4:00:30] that will surely suffer if this park is

[4:00:32] allowed. I believe there are somewhere

[4:00:35] in the neighborhood of well over 350

[4:00:37] individuals who have signed a petition

[4:00:40] opposing this park. Most live within

[4:00:42] this two-m radius. Several surrounding

[4:00:45] neighborhoods have also come together

[4:00:47] with a powerful voice in opposition.

[4:00:50] This includes residents in the county of

[4:00:52] Amelia as well.

[4:00:54] The message of many is always the same.

[4:00:57] This type of activity in our rural area

[4:00:59] of Palatan will jeopardize the solitude

[4:01:02] of quiet country living. It will surely

[4:01:05] destroy some of it. I know there are

[4:01:08] those who would love to have this become

[4:01:09] a reality. I wonder how many of these

[4:01:11] live in this two-mile radius. I wonder

[4:01:14] if they would still welcome it if it

[4:01:16] also inconvenience their daily lives.

[4:01:19] I've heard that the applicant was quoted

[4:01:21] as saying that sometimes there has to be

[4:01:23] sacrifices. Yes, we all have to have

[4:01:26] sacrifices in our lives.

[4:01:30] My question is why should the residents

[4:01:32] of this quiet community sacrifice what

[4:01:35] we have all come to work for and love is

[4:01:37] home. I and many others think that there

[4:01:40] is any sacrifice to be suffered here, it

[4:01:42] should not be the residents of this

[4:01:44] community.

[4:01:46] I would hope that as board members you

[4:01:48] will take into consideration the human

[4:01:50] factor in your decision making. Is this

[4:01:53] proposal right for Palatan County? Is

[4:01:55] this a right choice for the residents of

[4:01:57] Palatan? Thank you.

[4:01:59] >> Thank you.

[4:02:14] My name is Bob Wolf. I live in Palatan.

[4:02:17] I have no idea what zone I'm in. I was

[4:02:20] riding my a bike tonight and I saw the

[4:02:22] bunch of cars outside. I came to

[4:02:24] complain about flock cameras. Instead, I

[4:02:27] saw this. Gentlemen, I personally

[4:02:30] believe I'm not affected by this at all,

[4:02:32] but I personally believe that if you

[4:02:33] pass this thing and let that motorports

[4:02:36] thing go, you're out of a job. Thank

[4:02:38] you.

[4:02:39] >> Thank you.

[4:02:46] » Anybody else?

[4:02:50] » All right. With that, I'm going to close

[4:02:52] the public comment period and open up to

[4:02:55] board comments. Uh, I don't want to

[4:02:57] steal anybody's thunder. I know District

[4:02:59] 2 and District 4 representatives have some things to say. U, but, um, I

[4:03:05] want to thank you all for for being

[4:03:07] civil. Um, it's a passionate topic and I

[4:03:11] know a lot of people are very

[4:03:14] uh,

[4:03:16] a lot of strong opinions, a lot of

[4:03:18] strong ideas and and thoughts about the

[4:03:20] issue. So, so thank you for that. And

[4:03:23] it's a it has been a long road. Um,

[4:03:26] [clears throat]

[4:03:28] there sometimes I wish I could just take

[4:03:29] all of all of the comments and just kind

[4:03:31] of bald it into to one statement and

[4:03:34] just say ditto, but I I can't do that.

[4:03:38] So, uh, my background is is is very

[4:03:41] purely focused on on safety and, uh, I

[4:03:44] look at I look at traffic and I look at

[4:03:46] the impacts there. Um, that's that's my

[4:03:50] biggest concern. Um, but more than that,

[4:03:55] I care about what brings you peace.

[4:03:58] That's what's important. We talk, we

[4:04:00] talked about a lot of impacts. We talked

[4:04:01] about environmental impacts. We talked

[4:04:02] about all sorts of different impacts,

[4:04:04] but more than anything, it it's what

[4:04:07] brings you peace.

[4:04:09] Um, and for me, that's that's what was

[4:04:12] heard more than anything tonight. Uh, so

[4:04:15] thank you for that.

[4:04:18] Any other board [clears throat]

[4:04:18] comments,

[4:04:20] >> Mr. Chair? Go ahead.

[4:04:22] >> I'll go first since I'm two and four.

[4:04:24] So, it looks like most of the people

[4:04:26] that uh are up here are district two and

[4:04:30] I represent y'all. So, I will never go

[4:04:32] against y'all. Um apologize to throttle

[4:04:36] therapy for putting y'all through this

[4:04:38] and apologize to the my my constituents

[4:04:41] Palian County for the suffering y'all

[4:04:43] went through for the past three or four

[4:04:44] months. Um I'm going to keep it short

[4:04:48] and sweet. All my district two people

[4:04:50] were here and they were spoke violently.

[4:04:51] I mean I think it was one person from

[4:04:53] district 2 that approved this. So I will

[4:04:55] be totally against this. I will be a

[4:04:57] vote no. And I would also like to make a

[4:05:00] second motion after this motion to

[4:05:02] remove

[4:05:04] uh motorsports park from A10. So

[4:05:16] go ahead Mark. Any

[4:05:19] other board comments?

[4:05:24] » Mr. Chairman,

[4:05:25] >> George,

[4:05:29] » thank everybody from District 4. I've

[4:05:31] had to play counselor. Um, I've gotten a

[4:05:33] lot of phone calls, a lot of emails, got

[4:05:36] to have some heart-to-he heart

[4:05:37] conversations with some people, and I've

[4:05:39] enjoyed every minute of it. One of the

[4:05:42] hardest, and there's two things since I

[4:05:44] got elected that I will never do. I will

[4:05:46] never not listen to my constituents and

[4:05:48] I will do everything I can to protect

[4:05:50] the rural character of this county. You

[4:05:52] know, I have a lot of feelings about

[4:05:53] this. I live on Rocky Ford as well along

[4:05:56] with a lot of you folks. But the one of

[4:05:58] the hardest things a supervisor has to

[4:06:00] do is when he makes a motion,

[4:06:04] he has to set the feelings aside and he

[4:06:06] has to look at the review standards of

[4:06:09] the conditional use permit and does the

[4:06:13] applicant demonstrate the proposed

[4:06:15] conditional use.

[4:06:17] So one, the applicant has not

[4:06:20] appropriate. It's not an appropriate

[4:06:23] location.

[4:06:24] It's not compatible with the genital

[4:06:26] character of the surrounding lands.

[4:06:30] It does not avoid significant adverse

[4:06:32] odor, noise, glare, vibration impacts on

[4:06:36] surrounding lands regarding refuge

[4:06:38] collection, service delivery, parking

[4:06:41] and loading signs and lighting. It does

[4:06:44] not avoid significant deterioration of

[4:06:47] water and air resources, scenic

[4:06:49] resources and other natural uh

[4:06:52] resources. It does not maintain a safe

[4:06:55] and convenient ingress and egress and

[4:06:58] traffic flow into and through the

[4:07:01] vehicles by and pedestrians and safe

[4:07:05] road conditions at the site. So with all

[4:07:08] that in mind, I make a motion that we

[4:07:09] deny the motors parks part C based on

[4:07:13] those review standards.

[4:07:14] >> Second.

[4:07:18] >> Any other any other comments before we

[4:07:20] move to a roll call vote?

[4:07:22] >> Sure.

[4:07:23] >> Um I want to thank everyone here. It

[4:07:27] it's it's been interesting over the last

[4:07:29] three years to deal with passion. Um,

[4:07:33] and I appreciate it and I appreciate the

[4:07:35] passion you all have shown this evening

[4:07:36] for your positions and mostly the fact

[4:07:40] that you've been able to express your

[4:07:42] passion civily and I I genuinely

[4:07:46] appreciate that. Um the standards of the

[4:07:49] cup that my colleague just just read

[4:07:52] really speak to um the whole concept of

[4:07:55] property rights and the fact that um we

[4:07:58] have to respect them until these sorts

[4:08:02] of standards are not being lived up to.

[4:08:05] These are called externalities and we we

[4:08:08] can't tolerate

[4:08:11] uh externalities being imposed on others

[4:08:14] by virtue of a property right. So, um,

[4:08:18] for that reason, for all these

[4:08:19] standards, and for all that I've heard

[4:08:21] today, um, I I also concur with my

[4:08:24] colleagues. I will not be supporting

[4:08:27] this cup.

[4:08:29] >> Dr.

[4:08:30] I

[4:08:34] » I find that regardless of what the

[4:08:38] applicant has said, there's nothing

[4:08:41] there's not a lot to back it up

[4:08:44] that we would um see growth as I pointed

[4:08:47] as they said in um our hotels.

[4:08:53] We don't have a hotel. It would be nice

[4:08:55] if we did, but we don't. um that it

[4:08:58] would have a positive economic

[4:09:02] um

[4:09:03] uh stream of money to the county. They

[4:09:06] don't have that in there. We have no

[4:09:09] idea what it would make from the

[4:09:13] planning commission that I viewed. They

[4:09:16] don't know what their staffing would be.

[4:09:18] I think this I think the business plan

[4:09:22] is too loose at this point in time.

[4:09:26] um if I was going to start something, I

[4:09:30] would have that laid out and the

[4:09:32] resources and what would be laid down.

[4:09:34] That's just me. Um I for all the other

[4:09:40] reasons, mine is I don't see the

[4:09:42] business plan in operation

[4:09:45] and I think there's too many holes where

[4:09:47] there shouldn't be.

[4:09:50] >> Thank you. We'll take a roll call vote,

[4:09:53] please.

[4:09:54] >> Mr. McClung

[4:09:56] >> I

[4:09:58] I'm sorry. Nay.

[4:09:59] >> No. It's a motion to deny.

[4:10:01] >> Oh, the motion to deny. So,

[4:10:02] >> yes.

[4:10:03] No.

[4:10:04] >> Yes.

[4:10:06] >> Feel like I'm at home.

[4:10:10] >> We're good.

[4:10:13] >> Mr. Powers.

[4:10:14] >> Uh, yes. No.

[4:10:17] [laughter]

[4:10:18] >> Hi. Thank you,

[4:10:20] >> Dr. Brown.

[4:10:21] >> Hi,

[4:10:22] >> Vice Chair Kenny. I

[4:10:24] >> chairman Dennady

[4:10:25] >> I

[4:10:27] All right, that'll break bring us out of

[4:10:29] the uh public hearing. Um

[4:10:33] [clears throat]

[4:10:38] that

[4:10:39] >> we're laughing now.

[4:10:41] >> County Attorney comments.

[4:10:45] >> County Minister comments. I

[4:10:46] >> just want to say thank you to uh Mr.

[4:10:48] Lian Webb. He's he's migrated to the

[4:10:50] back of the room, but uh Ligins accepted

[4:10:52] an opportunity in another another

[4:10:54] locality, but he went out of his way to

[4:10:56] make sure he guided us through tonight's

[4:10:58] meeting. So, wish you well and thank you

[4:11:00] very much.

[4:11:07] » Board comments,

[4:11:08] >> Mr. Chair.

[4:11:09] >> Good. like to ask staff to prepare an

[4:11:11] amendment to bring to the next meeting

[4:11:12] to begin the process to refer to the

[4:11:14] planning commission to remove

[4:11:16] motorsports park from HM

[4:11:31] » is a motion that you

[4:11:35] » second.

[4:11:37] >> All in favor? I I

[4:11:39] >> Any oppose?

[4:11:41] >> Hearing none, that passes 5. Any other

[4:11:42] board comments?

[4:11:43] >> I just have one. I just I again want to

[4:11:45] thank everybody that reached out to me

[4:11:47] via email and phone call. Um it was a

[4:11:49] true pleasure getting to meet every one

[4:11:50] of you and um and if you need anything

[4:11:53] again, just give me a shout. Thanks

[4:11:55] again.

[4:11:56] >> Yeah,

[4:11:57] >> I will uh I'd like to mention that um

[4:12:00] Lian Webb, thanks so much for for your

[4:12:02] time and thank you for finishing strong.

[4:12:05] >> Thank you.

[4:12:06] >> Like a pro. Yeah. Any other comments?

[4:12:11] Meeting adjourned.

08/24/2026 Board of Supervisors Pre-Meeting Dinner and Regular Monthly Meeting

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