[0:14] Good afternoon.

[0:15] I'd like to, we adjourn. .

[0:19] I would like to call the June 1st Coleman housing authority,

[0:23] annual meeting.

[0:24] To order. So we'll start the meeting with roll call.

[0:31] Christian, you gonna do that? Or am I gonna do

[0:33] that?

[0:34] You want me to, I I'd like you when you

[0:36] do that. all right.

[0:39] Cara biddings here.

[0:41] Here, bill styles here. Bill Hansen here. Stacy DAYL here.

[0:45] Sally Pierce here. Norman maze here. Thank you.

[0:49] Thank you. Absent Connie. Banham.

[0:52] Okay. So we'll start with the director's report.

[0:55] Tenant updates, capital improvements and financial projections.

[1:08] So for tenant updates, we did get two.

[1:12] Renovated units turned over.

[1:14] In this fiscal year, we had one.

[1:17] One bedroom unit and one, two bedroom unit.

[1:21] There will also soon be a vacant one bedroom unit.

[1:25] But they're still moving out right now on that.

[1:29] I'm not. And I've left you all a sheet with

[1:31] the current rental rates and how many units are paying.

[1:36] Those amounts.

[1:39] And that's all I have any questions.

[1:43] Questions. Thank you. Thank you very much, Christina.

[1:49] Oh, hold on. Have one question, Mr. Stiles.

[1:52] Stiles. I understand a resident just recently passed away.

[1:57] Does that factor into the one unit you said is

[2:00] available?

[2:01] This is the one that will soon be available. They're

[2:03] in the process of moving things out.

[2:06] Okay. A one-bedroom unit and that unit was already.

[2:09] Renovated so that kitchen's already been done in this unit

[2:13] that will soon be vacant.

[2:15] Okay, thank you. You're welcome.

[2:18] Okay, can we have the updated on calf improvements?

[2:23] Capital improvements. We we're still working on our 10 year

[2:26] plan trying to prioritize things within the buildings that, that.

[2:29] Need to be updated. One of the major capital improvements

[2:32] that I've kind of identified over the past two years.

[2:36] And put into our actual town operating budget. This year

[2:39] was we're repaving. The, the.

[2:43] The road red mill road that goes into the senior

[2:45] housing project.

[2:47] We've identified the circle at the senior housing project as

[2:50] being hazardous.

[2:51] We're updating some of the sewer man holes, updating some

[2:54] of the drainage.

[2:55] And then we're gonna go in and.

[2:57] Repave the driveways and repave the walkways, the walkways have

[3:02] been a.

[3:03] A real trip hazard. This, this winter, some of the

[3:06] pavement was torn up by the plow trucks.

[3:09] So that that was in the, in the towns operating

[3:12] budget, not in the senior housing operating budget for this

[3:14] year.

[3:16] We're hoping to do that. This, this spring and summer.

[3:19] We are watching oil prices and pavement prices.

[3:23] Prices. So if for some reason,

[3:25] if the paving prices don't come down.

[3:29] We'll definitely be doing it in the spring, but we're

[3:31] hoping to get it done this summer.

[3:33] So that's, that's really one of that's a major project.

[3:36] It's it's.

[3:38] It's, there's gonna be a lot of communication when we

[3:39] decide that we want to move forward with this, because

[3:42] there's going to.

[3:45] Be some issues with getting in and outta your driveways,

[3:48] but.

[3:49] It's really

[3:51] the contractors work well with you. They'll let you know,

[3:53] Hey, you know, you might want to get out tomorrow

[3:55] morning or we're gonna be in the way. So there'll

[3:57] be a lot of communication from Christina.

[3:59] With you folks. Once we decide that when we have

[4:01] an idea of when we're gonna be going in there

[4:03] to do that, so.

[4:06] And that's really all I have bill. Just one quick

[4:08] question, Chris, are you tying that together with other.

[4:12] Town pavement projects so we can get better pavement pricing.

[4:15] Assuming the answer is yes, but yes. I always like

[4:17] to hear the public, hear that you are.

[4:19] Doing those things to economies at scale is cuz it's,

[4:21] it's long to write into the whole paving project. And

[4:23] that's why I just kept it into the paving project.

[4:25] It was a good year to put.

[4:27] Senior housing into it because.

[4:29] We had caught up on some of the other roads.

[4:32] And we like to put so much money a year

[4:34] into our paving plan. So this was a way to

[4:37] do that road and it just made sense to do

[4:39] the driveway.

[4:40] Driveways while we're doing the road in the cul-de-sac.

[4:43] Great. I'm Mr. Siles.

[4:45] Is the paving and the plowing people, their insurance taking

[4:48] care of them, the damage to the pavement.

[4:51] The damage to the pavement. Really? It, it won't be

[4:54] cuz it was really due to poor pavement. So we,

[4:56] we take some responsibility with that, that it was already.

[5:00] Lifted and cracking, there was no way around it, whether

[5:02] they had done it or we had done it, they

[5:04] are responsible for going in and, and fixing the lawns

[5:07] and anything that they.

[5:08] They've torn up. But other than that, no.

[5:11] Thank you. You scroll into bowl for.

[5:15] Receiving putting soil down. It hasn't been done for 20

[5:19] years.

[5:25] It's it's, it's really due to damage. So we, we.

[5:29] Go on a repay the damage. But when we go

[5:30] in and repair all these sidewalks and driveways, we're gonna

[5:33] have to go loam and rec. We're gonna have to

[5:35] loam up to 'em and recede and everyth.

[5:37] Everything. So

[5:41] I came home.

[5:48] Cause now they're covered with.

[5:57] They did about, they were here this morning, the same

[5:59] people who give the flowers and they tore things up

[6:03] that little.

[6:04] That little machine called cat.

[6:07] Lawns up everywhere. It's a mess. And they re they

[6:11] redid Judy McAfee. They.

[6:14] Didn't they only did about.

[6:18] Four, a token, they did four and all the rest

[6:21] of the circle has not been done and they were

[6:24] due to have it done.

[6:25] June 1st and Dean knows about it. Dean has been absolutely

[6:30] extraordinarily wonderful about taking care of us by the way.

[6:35] I'll follow up with Dean. I knew they were in

[6:37] there today. If they weren't finished today, they'll probably be

[6:40] finished tomorrow. So I'm.

[6:42] I'm gonna refer your questions to the chair.

[6:45] Yes in the back. Hi. Yes. I have some damage

[6:47] to the vinyl sliding on my unit.

[6:50] That we figure the people. Did. They.

[6:56] So in the siding on the corner piece.

[6:58] They dump the pipe coming down.

[7:01] And I'm wondering who care about that. So, Chris, Chris,

[7:05] can you, is there a process for tenants to take

[7:07] and report.

[7:09] Damage to their units. Yes, sir. Anything you see, it's

[7:11] in your housing of concern, you call into Christina. Christina

[7:14] makes a note. We make a punch list and we

[7:15] send it out either Dean or.

[7:17] Tom out to, to review it. Who knows about it?

[7:19] I just, you know, that we, you talked about before,

[7:22] cause it was damaging.

[7:26] We'll follow up. We'll take a look. I know that

[7:28] they're right on top of it. We have contractors lined

[7:30] up to go in and fix a lot of this

[7:31] stuff. It's just, it takes a while with.

[7:34] Contractors nowadays, I'm gonna cover it with point duct

[7:37] tape. I don't want any boss noise nest to me.

[7:41] Yeah. Cause.

[7:42] It's a good hole. Well, Christina's making notes, so we'll,

[7:45] we'll follow up tomorrow morning.

[7:49] All right. Any other capital improvement?

[7:53] No, sir. Okay.

[7:55] Okay. Now we're onto item three, which is financial projections.

[7:58] And.

[7:59] Mr child manager, that we will be doing that portion

[8:01] of it.

[8:02] I will be Mr. Chair, if it's okay. I'd like

[8:04] to also.

[8:06] Include on this, like what we're looking at on, on

[8:08] the budget for this year. Sure. As well as projected

[8:11] for rent increases, cuz it all kind of.

[8:14] Comes together under one under one umbrella there. If it's,

[8:17] it'd be fine.

[8:18] So what, what we have this year is this year's.

[8:22] Forecast senior housing proposed budget.

[8:25] And it shows overall it's about a.

[8:29] It's a, it's a 5.4% decrease from last year's budget.

[8:34] However that's a little bit.

[8:38] Let's say sneaky math, because we do also supplement it

[8:42] with $45,000 of capital reserve transfer.

[8:45] That was going in to try to help offset.

[8:48] Some of the expenses that, that were in there this

[8:51] year we saw and that.

[8:54] Does a significant increase over what we have done historically,

[8:57] but trying to help close the gap with the overall

[9:00] operational budget.

[9:01] Some of the bigger challenges that we had this year.

[9:05] We're a lot of it in operational cost and it

[9:08] would be on salaries for the staff that we have

[9:11] there.

[9:12] They had a cost living increase this year, 4%.

[9:15] For the full-time wages, also our health insurance this year.

[9:20] For the town overall went up 14%.

[9:22] For this allocation that we have for this part of

[9:25] the, of our budget, we're looking at a 10% increase

[9:28] there year over year.

[9:30] That we allocated into it. And then the larger.

[9:34] Components that we had were on our.

[9:37] On our heating systems, maintenance budget this year, we're increasing

[9:40] that by about 32% due to replacement of heating systems

[9:44] that need to.

[9:45] Take place or, or forecast over the coming year.

[9:48] As well, and then followed up by.

[9:51] Contractual maintenance. So we're talking about the folks who are

[9:54] doing our work for the plowing and the snow maintenance

[9:56] and other.

[9:58] Groundskeeping during the year, that was a contractual increase of

[10:01] 14% or $5,000.

[10:04] And then building maintenance itself was also an increase this

[10:07] year, year over year by $3,000, just for, you know,

[10:11] standard standard.

[10:12] Work that we'll have to take place over the course

[10:14] of the year. They were really the lions share of

[10:17] the increase that we saw in the budget year.

[10:21] Year over year.

[10:25] And so looking at that, the.

[10:29] Before any form of increase on rent increases this year.

[10:34] The the senior housing was looking at a, at a,

[10:36] at a loss of roughly or, or a deficit of

[10:39] about $22,600.

[10:41] Compared to last year, last year was slightly.

[10:45] It was slightly above.

[10:48] But this year, if we go on the current status,

[10:51] we're about 22.

[10:52] Six below what we need for.

[10:56] To to break even. So based on that, I've come

[10:59] forward with a.

[11:01] As, I guess I can give you back looking back

[11:03] at about this time last year, we were discussing an

[11:06] increase on rates and.

[11:08] You know, our recommendation last year was to not change

[11:10] the rates cuz we weren't sure what we were looking

[11:12] at, looking at from an economy standpoint.

[11:16] This year, we're looking at making a recommendation of a

[11:18] 4% increase. So that turns into a, roughly a 2%

[11:22] year over year average over.

[11:24] The past two years, but a lot of that it's

[11:27] tracking a little bit less than what the consumer price

[11:29] index is gonna be for this year. They're looking at.

[11:32] Over the course of the summer at about four and

[11:33] a half percent is the CPI. So we're, we're tracking

[11:37] a little bit less than that. We're probably close to.

[11:40] At about what inflation is gonna be at least.

[11:43] If oil stays where it's at. Unfortunately, we'll be looking

[11:46] at that as a, as an inflationary cost.

[11:49] But

[11:52] then the other, I don't know we had on that,

[11:53] you know, a lot of it's just trying to meet

[11:55] the needs that we do have instead of keeping to

[11:57] going back, cuz it's not sustainable to go into.

[12:00] Our reserve funds year over year to try to balance

[12:02] the budget off from that. Because at some point we

[12:04] may have a larger capital expense that we'll need to.

[12:08] Reach into our savings account. If you will.

[12:10] To, to fund that, to help us going forward.

[12:13] The other item that I have.

[12:16] That and the, the board may remember this discussion from

[12:18] last year as well.

[12:20] The town over the last year, voted to expand our

[12:23] solar field up and back of us on off ground

[12:26] road. So that should be break.

[12:28] Breaking ground here in the near term, which will change

[12:31] the complexion of our electrical side of it. So I

[12:35] think that'll be it. We may.

[12:37] Ask the board to come back at another time during

[12:39] this year.

[12:41] To look at potentially finding a way to.

[12:44] Offset the electrical utility.

[12:46] Costs for the units. So, but we don't know what

[12:49] those numbers are gonna look like right now. Well, I

[12:51] know that Chris pulled together all of the unit.

[12:54] Electrical bills last year, when we were going through this

[12:56] exercise with revision to figure out.

[13:00] What, what our overall usage was for municipally owned properties.

[13:04] So that was put into the mix, but we're gonna

[13:07] look at what we have.

[13:08] For yields and what we can do to apply it

[13:10] towards those, you know, potentially apply those towards our, our,

[13:14] our lovely clients, electrical bills.

[13:16] As they go forward. So if you can find a

[13:18] way to say.

[13:20] To find a, a cost, I guess you could say

[13:22] a cost effective.

[13:24] And also a reasonable number that will be less than

[13:27] what they're currently paying for electricity, but helps us offset

[13:30] the capital expense. So, but that'll be a.

[13:32] A future discussion that, that we're looking to do, but

[13:35] that that's on the positive side. So.

[13:38] Long story short, we're looking at a 4% for this

[13:41] year would be our recommendation.

[13:43] And still with that being said, we're we do still

[13:46] have a little bit of a structural gap when it's

[13:49] all said and done by raising the interest rates.

[13:52] Sorry, the rent rates by 4% will net us roughly

[13:56] about 15,000.

[13:58] $179.

[14:00] Above and beyond what we had forecast in the budget

[14:03] for rent.

[14:05] So that would make the gap still a deficit of

[14:07] about $7,400.

[14:09] But that's best case scenario that we're looking at now,

[14:13] or, or at least, you know, we may find at

[14:15] the end of the year, we may not have expended

[14:16] everything.

[14:17] So we're within a, a gap there that I think

[14:20] we'll probably break even, or be right around, right around

[14:23] a zero base budget. When it's all said and done.

[14:28] Thank you. You're very welcome, sir.

[14:31] I guess I'd like to.

[14:33] Talk about our processes this point in time right now.

[14:35] Cause I'm, I'm assuming there's a lot of our lovely

[14:37] tents here. Want to talk on this subject? You have

[14:39] the red increase. I'm I'm guessing. That's why you're here.

[14:42] And I'd like to have a, a process. We go

[14:44] forward cuz it's public communist towards the end of this.

[14:47] And I, I just would like to have the board.

[14:50] Discuss, whether we'd like to hear it from the tenants

[14:52] first and then have board discussion or vice versa. And

[14:54] I'd like to just, they just go down the board

[14:56] and tell me how you prefer to run that.

[14:59] Carl will you start?

[15:01] Yeah, I think it makes sense to hear from the

[15:03] public first and then have our discussion. We know their

[15:06] concerns.

[15:07] Concerns. I agree. I agree. I do too. Okay. That's

[15:12] gonna be our process. Great. So if you could just

[15:15] raise your hand.

[15:16] To give your name and where you live and then,

[15:17] and talk about what could we ask them to go

[15:20] to the podium because it's being recorded? Yes, it is.

[15:22] Would that be okay? People make it to the podium.

[15:26] I dunno how it works.

[15:35] I because so people at home can hear what's going

[15:37] on. Let's Mr. Veil can find a way to bring

[15:39] a mic.

[15:39] To you, which maybe he's he's on that. I don't

[15:42] even know if it's up there.

[15:46] My house, the

[15:50] where'd he go

[15:52] I think we've had that in a while. I

[15:56] don't, I don't think we Haven quite all right. So,

[15:59] so this.

[16:00] Discussion is, is, is

[16:02] purely focused on the proposed rate increase. That's what this

[16:06] discussion will be about. There'll be public comment later on

[16:08] for things outside of that, but this is just gonna

[16:10] be.

[16:11] For the rate increase is what we're increases. What's that?

[16:14] It's on my unit. I came from mine.

[16:18] Next door and they

[16:21] charge me for, so it's taken off my rent behind

[16:24] the podium, Bob.

[16:26] Hiding on me.

[16:28] Hasn't changed since I've asked every year, has the rate.

[16:33] Changed the tragedy for the.

[16:39] Just one, two hasn't changed.

[16:42] Yeah, they, they checked it last year, Tom. Okay. Well,

[16:45] thank you very much for that assistance. You're welcome. That

[16:48] is great to cover.

[16:49] What they're okay. When I'm, can you hear me? No.

[16:54] No. Is it on light?

[16:59] Should be good to go.

[17:03] And do you think coming out of yep. You got

[17:05] a hold of, we look pretty close. Looks like I

[17:07] didn't have it close enough. Okay.

[17:10] In the units, only one person pays for the radar

[17:14] for the connecting units.

[17:16] I'm in a two, there are two of us together.

[17:20] And when it was in, they told me the rate

[17:22] was $20 a month. I would pay for the rate

[17:25] on.

[17:26] And they take it off. And my rent.

[17:28] And I asked the question, has the rate gone up?

[17:32] That they're charging me for the rate on does the

[17:34] fan and the whole bit.

[17:37] And the answer has been no, the ch the electricity

[17:40] hasn't gone up there.

[17:42] And so if the it's costing me $30.

[17:46] A month for the radar. Now it should be deducted

[17:48] for my.

[17:50] Rent. So we're, I'm just wondering, has the rate for

[17:54] the Rateon gone up.

[17:56] Okay. So

[17:58] Christine. Do you want to discuss that?

[18:01] Yeah, I believe it was last year. Tom looked into

[18:03] how much energy, the radon meters.

[18:05] Use and the $20 credit that is given to the

[18:09] people that have the radon meters.

[18:12] Tied into their electrical bill.

[18:14] Is more than enough to cover. So they've.

[18:17] Gotten probably more of a credit than what they've been

[18:20] paying every year.

[18:22] Or every month, so that $20 a month credit is

[18:25] still enough.

[18:27] To cover the rate on meter usage. Thank you. Christine

[18:31] said we built it in higher for that reason, just

[18:33] so we weren't chasing it.

[18:35] Every year mm-hmm .

[18:37] Okay, so, so questions related to the proposed rating rate

[18:40] increase.

[18:41] Thank you, Mr. Vale for, for.

[18:44] Walking the mic. If you could just say your name

[18:46] and where you live and then state your concern or

[18:49] question.

[18:50] Hi, Nancy. Hussie I'm at number 69.

[18:53] And I was just wondering, it was really nice. Last

[18:56] year we had zero increase.

[18:58] But I'm wondering, no matter how the economics looked.

[19:02] If we could every year get a small increase.

[19:06] Which you would get to then use the money.

[19:08] And that we wouldn't get such a larger increase two

[19:11] years later. I mean, I could understand the two and

[19:12] the two.

[19:14] But it would given you the money to use, to

[19:16] go towards a deficit.

[19:19] And maybe I'm in the minority that just soon pay

[19:21] it as we go along.

[19:23] I think we'll look at that going forward too last

[19:26] year was kind of a.

[19:27] Cause we were also looking at changing rates.

[19:31] For as new tenants came in. So we were looking

[19:33] at a lot of those cuz.

[19:35] There was a lot of moving parts, I guess, on

[19:37] overall rates. So they shifted for new tenants last year,

[19:40] up to higher rates that were gonna be starting.

[19:43] As a, as units turned over. So we had that

[19:45] increase that took place on the go forward. And then

[19:47] this year we're looking at it on the overall picture,

[19:50] but then next year,

[19:51] we'll probably look at, like you said, probably.

[19:53] Like a, a lower percentage increase year over year. And

[19:56] that'll, that'll close that gap. And.

[19:58] Keep us, I think they'll keep us in decent shape.

[20:01] Thank you. So thank you, Gail. Your turn.

[20:08] I think you can hear me with, so yes, but

[20:10] can you just in state your name and where you,

[20:14] where you live too before you start? Yes. My nameis.

[20:14] Gail Ray Carter. I'm at 50 Hawk. Oh, we, we

[20:16] need that for the TV to hear you for the

[20:19] TV thing. Yes, because we're on, we're on, we're on

[20:21] TV. My name.

[20:23] Is Gail Ray Carter and I live at number 50

[20:25] Hawthorne court.

[20:27] And I don't have any concerns other than the fact

[20:30] that several of us who live there.

[20:33] Still have old kitchens.

[20:35] Kitchens, you cannot use a KitchenAid mixer.

[20:39] Because the distance between the countertop and the top cupboards.

[20:44] Cupboards is only about 10 or 12 inches.

[20:47] I have a quiz and art food processor.

[20:51] And I have to pull a food processor.

[20:54] All the way to the front of the cupboard to

[20:56] even get the cover on it, to use it to

[20:58] puree a soup.

[21:02] So I've been studying Southern living and decorating magazines and

[21:05] looking at the cupboards.

[21:08] Cupboards. If it takes two months.

[21:11] To replace a kitchen. It seems to me.

[21:15] That we got a letter from Christina.

[21:17] Telling us that, that you'd almost have to move out

[21:20] to get your kitchen and get a new kitchen.

[21:23] I kind of, don't like to be jealous of my

[21:26] new neighbors.

[21:28] Neighbors because they're nice neighbors, but they all have new

[21:30] kitchens.

[21:32] Kitchens and they're lovely.

[21:34] So I figured a way.

[21:37] That my kitchen could be fixed.

[21:40] So I could use a KitchenAid mixer.

[21:43] You leave the left cupboard as they are. You leave

[21:45] the right cupboards as they are.

[21:47] But when you look at the back wall, the wooden

[21:50] cupboards are.

[21:52] In sections so that you.

[21:55] Would take that section off the wall.

[21:58] And raise it up a little bit.

[22:01] And then it would have to have refinished, you know,

[22:04] where.

[22:05] The space is where you rose up that one section.

[22:09] And then it would be much more workable.

[22:12] And I don't plan to move away.

[22:15] Until they take me away.

[22:18] So this would be

[22:20] sort of a bonus.

[22:22] Yeah, there's just food for thought.

[22:25] It's not a complaint.

[22:27] Complaint. Thank you.

[22:29] So, what I heard from you is a potential short

[22:31] term solution until we could get the renovations completed to

[22:34] make it more usable. I guess, Chris, is that something

[22:36] that you could.

[22:37] Look into it seems to me.

[22:40] There are some people somewhere.

[22:42] In this vicinity that could come in there and tear

[22:46] that kitchen out and do it in a week.

[22:52] In a perfect world. lots of, and with all

[22:55] the contractors that we've been dealing with,

[22:59] that may be right, but when we're ordering the countertops,

[23:03] countertops, getting plumbers, electricians, getting the cabinets, ripped out, getting

[23:05] cabinets, put back in, getting the flooring, organized, getting the

[23:09] painting done.

[23:11] It would just, it's a lot of moving parts and

[23:14] what, and when we come up with two months,

[23:17] we're really, we don't want you to get into a

[23:18] situation where you, you tell us that you can do

[23:21] it. And then all of a sudden, you know, three

[23:23] weeks go by and you're washing dishes.

[23:25] Dishes in the bathtub and you know, you're getting upset

[23:27] with us and we just, our hands are tied. So.

[23:30] We are looking at other options. We've actually, I, I

[23:33] know Christina's made a couple contacts. We have an empty

[23:36] unit right now.

[23:38] That has already been redone. We're looking at the possibility

[23:41] of giving folks the option of.

[23:43] Moving in there for a couple months.

[23:46] Or taking that unit and giving up their unit so

[23:49] we can renovate. So we're, we are.

[23:52] We've constantly looking at options to, to get this done

[23:55] without, without inconveniencing you, but also being realistic on our

[23:59] end. Yeah, I totally.

[24:01] Understand the issues with the different contractors.

[24:04] That's why I came up with the patch idea.

[24:09] It's like a bandaid.

[24:11] I will check with Dean and Tom to see how

[24:13] much of a project that would be. So we will

[24:17] take a look at it. Christina wrote down.

[24:19] The the information and we'll thank you, Chris.

[24:23] Okay. Do we have any other con comments or concerns

[24:25] focused on the proposed rate increase by the town manager

[24:29] for the, this upcoming year?

[24:33] Now I'm not gonna lie. I wish she could be

[24:35] zero, but you can see the numbers. That's not possible.

[24:39] Our goal was to provide affordable housing for all of

[24:42] Utah.

[24:43] To take care, but also physically we need to make

[24:46] sure these units are.

[24:48] Maintained properly. So please, if the things are, are not

[24:51] right, please let Christina know.

[24:54] That's really, really important because we wanna make sure that

[24:57] things are correct and, and taken care of. That's really

[24:59] important to us.

[25:02] So, and the end of the day, it's, you know,

[25:04] the town.

[25:05] Really isn't in the, in the business of supporting housing.

[25:07] This housing is a great.

[25:10] Asset we have, and it needs to be self-sustaining. So

[25:12] that's that, that is what our goal is.

[25:14] And I think we can do that in officially responsive

[25:17] way. And I appreciate the planning and forethought that Christina

[25:20] and Chris and, and Matt have put.

[25:23] Into what they're doing to try to keep it in

[25:25] this direction, because I can tell you, there are a

[25:28] lot of places where these things get started and then.

[25:31] They, they kind of get run down and they're not

[25:33] in, not in good shape. And I think, you know,

[25:35] we, we set up a, really a.

[25:38] A high standard for, for that goes. Any more comments

[25:42] for open up to board comments on the, on the

[25:44] rent increase.

[25:45] I'm Julie McAfee. I'm a 48 Hawthorne. I've been here

[25:48] 20 years in my unit.

[25:51] I'm very happy in the unit.

[25:53] It hasn't been done over I'm in no hurry to

[25:55] have it done over.

[25:56] And there are others in the, in the complex to

[25:59] feel the same way.

[26:01] Thank you very much. Yeah.

[26:03] Any other comments before we go to board discussion around

[26:05] the, the right increase.

[26:08] Right. Seeing no other

[26:12] we, we can go.

[26:14] Start one of the table. We can go hands. Do

[26:15] you wanna start Norma? You're right. And work this way.

[26:18] Sure I can start. Excuse me.

[26:21] So, yes, I

[26:24] as I agree with bill that, you know, as much

[26:26] as we would like to.

[26:28] See, you know, the, the rents kept lower. I'm looking

[26:31] at.

[26:33] The what other rents are in, in the area.

[26:36] And it, it definitely

[26:39] is an affordable rent. These rents.

[26:42] Rents are even at the 4% increase are, are definitely.

[26:47] More affordable than there are other.

[26:50] Market rate rents out there.

[26:52] To that, that you would be able be able to

[26:55] find.

[26:57] So I would say that.

[26:59] Looking at the 4% this year and hopefully.

[27:03] Tapering that down, moving forward.

[27:05] In the coming years, making it a more.

[27:10] A little more.

[27:11] Palatable increase.

[27:14] So that we can maintain these, these units at the.

[27:17] At the standards that we have for, for so many

[27:19] years.

[27:20] I think I agree that this 4% increase is.

[27:24] Is justified. So thank you.

[27:27] Thank you norm.

[27:31] I don't know whether you hear me.

[27:34] I have a problem with my.

[27:37] Voice Connie. I did. If you pull that mic real

[27:39] close, it will work real. You get real close to

[27:41] pull or even pull the base even forward. I do.

[27:45] Agree with the increase.

[27:48] We probably should have looked at.

[27:52] Smaller increases.

[27:55] Increases in the past.

[27:58] Lee after this.

[28:00] But we have to pay for the.

[28:05] Cost of

[28:07] bills.

[28:10] Thank you, Connie.

[28:15] I agree with what

[28:17] these folks have said

[28:19] and I think the 4% increase is it's. It's reasonable.

[28:24] It's necessary.

[28:27] I appreciate all of your comments.

[28:29] Comments. Thank you.

[28:33] These are are affordable.

[28:36] Rents, even with the 4% increase.

[28:39] So thank you folks for your work. They, this looks

[28:41] good. Thank you. I appreciate it.

[28:45] William

[28:48] nowadays.

[28:50] Nowadays, you know, as I look back on life,

[28:53] everything is just playing costing way too much.

[28:57] I can remember gasoline.

[29:00] In less than 25 cents a gallon. .

[29:03] At it now, I just, my.

[29:07] Stepson just bought a new pickup truck.

[29:09] And it approached $80,000.

[29:13] My first house cost me under $14,000. Mm-hmm .

[29:18] How can you buy a pickup truck? That's relative to

[29:20] essentially four, five times.

[29:23] What you pay for a house?

[29:25] We have to maintain the rental values.

[29:28] To make sure that life is you folks know it.

[29:30] And we know it.

[29:32] Is good. I have always been a staunch advocate.

[29:36] Of having a little bit every year so that we

[29:38] don't have to go to a, for a 5 cent.

[29:41] Cents. Cuz in my mind, it's a lot easier to

[29:43] pick up 2% this year.

[29:45] And 2% next year, rather than.

[29:47] Get a four or 5% increase.

[29:50] I'm looking at at the.

[29:53] The way the units are established now.

[29:57] And I, and we have grandfathered units and so forth.

[30:01] I I'm just wondering Chris.

[30:03] When do some of these older units, for example, a

[30:06] two.

[30:07] Subsidized one bedroom units.

[30:10] You know, if, if they were into a normal rental

[30:12] that would take care of the 5% increase right there.

[30:16] Mm-hmm so I don't know.

[30:18] When in my planning mind.

[30:21] When some of these subsidized a grandfather's.

[30:24] Grandfather's disappear and end up being a current rate.

[30:28] And, and not that you have to do it, but

[30:29] it's, it's it's in my mind wondering.

[30:33] If that's some of the problem.

[30:35] And I guess I'm getting to the point where.

[30:39] I'm wishing that we had just.

[30:41] Two rates and not having to multiply and change each

[30:44] one because I can see right now the next rental

[30:47] rates are gonna be.

[30:49] The 2027 rates or the 2028 rates.

[30:53] I would rather us have a.

[30:56] A single rate that stayed the same for both the

[30:58] two, two bedroom units and the single bedroom units.

[31:02] And then

[31:05] if we just could cut expenses, that would be nice.

[31:08] I always want to cut. Yeah. for example, the

[31:11] budget, we should be able to cut that by 10%

[31:13] and not have to increase anything.

[31:17] But I'm not in that position and I appreciate everything

[31:21] you folks have done for this. So.

[31:23] I'm just actively thinking.

[31:27] Thank you, sir. Okay. Kara.

[31:30] Yeah, I'm in agreement with everything that was said, and

[31:34] I agree.

[31:36] That maybe we should have thought last year about us

[31:38] in a smaller increment, but I think at the time,

[31:42] costs were already starting to go up in so many

[31:45] areas of life. So we thought, well, if we can

[31:47] spare that here.

[31:49] Then, then that's a good thing.

[31:52] But it sounds like for the most part, people are

[31:55] having a good experience in the units and that's a

[31:57] great thing and something that we want to continue.

[32:01] So based on the numbers that we're seeing, I think

[32:04] that the 4% rate.

[32:06] Increase is appropriate and necessary.

[32:11] Okay, great. I just a couple clarifying questions, Mr. Manager.

[32:16] So, if I'm looking at this correctly,

[32:18] or unallocated fund balance is around 27,000 right now. Is

[32:21] that what I'm seeing? I believe so. Yes, sir. That

[32:24] is our available funds. Should catastrophe.

[32:26] Catastrophe occur. And we're talking about.

[32:29] Just to make my math simple, a $400,000 budget, just

[32:32] cuz I'm rounding up in my head.

[32:34] Yes, sir. So you're looking at about 5% as your

[32:36] contingency that you have right now, which is on the

[32:38] very thin side.

[32:40] With a proposed increase, 4%.

[32:44] You will get on about $20,000.

[32:46] In reserve. Yeah. So now you're getting down to.

[32:49] Less than less than 5%, but in that range,

[32:54] so just to be that's my understanding, is that correct?

[32:56] Yes. Okay.

[32:58] Great. I, I guess I do agree with you, Mr.

[33:02] Stiles, with.

[33:03] The rental rates is there's a lot to this, but

[33:06] I also, there's a huge advantage for some of our

[33:08] folks who've been here for a long time that that

[33:10] kind of get locked in. Come.

[33:12] Kind of similar to what some of the property tax

[33:14] relief they've talked about in, in the state is looking

[33:17] at when you get to a point a certain age,

[33:20] that stays and doesn't increase. So this advantages to all

[33:23] of you with that. So the model is hard for

[33:26] Christina to manage.

[33:28] Nearly impossible. As you can see the folks who are

[33:30] moving in today into your apartments are gonna pay a

[33:33] fair amount more than what you're paying.

[33:35] Going forward. So there is an, obviously there's a, there's

[33:39] a advantage for tenure and for, for common residents who

[33:42] have been here a long time and, and.

[33:43] Provided so many, one

[33:45] contributions to the town. So I think there's, there's a,

[33:48] certainly an upside to that, which I I'm, I'm proud

[33:50] of.

[33:52] I, you know, I don't like to look, look back.

[33:53] We made the best decision we could last year.

[33:56] Okay. And here we are. And I think the solemn

[33:58] truth is we need to move forward.

[34:00] I think the 4% is, is responsible. I would.

[34:04] I guess I would charge Chris and Christina, as we're

[34:08] moving forward with this budget to see what we can

[34:09] do to is opportunities to save.

[34:12] Come available that we try to look at trying to

[34:14] mean our operating costs next year under budget. So we

[34:17] can reduce that $7,000 loss.

[34:19] With a goal to get it to parody, which that's

[34:21] a, that's a ask. But I think that that would,

[34:23] should be our target.

[34:25] And, you know, I appreciate all the support and it's

[34:28] also great to see all of you.

[34:30] This is special for us, cuz I'm, I'm afraid I

[34:32] don't get over your way very often. So it's nice

[34:34] to see you all here. So.

[34:36] Mr manage. I also support your, your proposal. Thank you

[34:39] again. I wish it was, it could be one or

[34:41] 2%.

[34:42] But I think that the problem would be went down

[34:45] that road. And I've been there before with other town

[34:47] committees. And what have you, is that it's, it builds

[34:50] on itself and.

[34:51] Then pretty soon, we're not, we're asking for a six

[34:52] or a seven or eight or nine or 10% increase.

[34:55] And that's the last thing we want to do, cuz

[34:57] that becomes real hard to, to navigate.

[35:01] We have one. We have one, one more question.

[35:06] One thing that they've always told us when they've gone

[35:10] up and.

[35:11] Is, they always look at our social security.

[35:15] And years where we have no.

[35:18] Raise like last year, I don't believe the social security

[35:21] went up.

[35:22] Damn it. Oh, just very little, but they've.

[35:26] Used that to judge what they were gonna make the

[35:28] rinse be.

[35:30] Because most of us are using our social security.

[35:34] To pay the rent.

[35:36] And that's it. That's a lot of us. That's our

[35:39] total.

[35:40] Income that we get from the government is social security.

[35:43] So keep that in mind. Absolutely.

[35:46] Absolutely. So

[35:48] with that. I, I think.

[35:51] I need to entertain a motion to accept the, the

[35:53] town manager's recommendation.

[35:55] On we'll start with the, with the budget first and

[35:59] then we would go re increase. Secondly, those would be

[36:01] the two motions. I believe I need to have Christina.

[36:04] Am I correct on that. Okay. So can I have

[36:06] a motion?

[36:08] Concerning the ex adoption of the proposed.

[36:10] Budget presented by the town manager.

[36:13] I would rather discuss the budget first.

[36:16] Okay, well, we have a motion, then we have discussion.

[36:19] That'll be the order, right. So I would think, yes.

[36:21] Okay. So let's, let's have the motion, then we'll have

[36:23] discussion.

[36:24] In, in reviewing this budget.

[36:27] We talk, one of the things, the town manager and

[36:30] the proposing here.

[36:32] Is more expenditure on a heating system, maintenance.

[36:36] I don't understand.

[36:38] We have, as I understand it.

[36:41] A gas heating system, propane heating system.

[36:44] And those are, are pretty.

[36:46] Substantial stable heating units.

[36:49] Why we basically

[36:51] putting $40,000 a year into maintenance of, of heating systems

[36:55] that should be leveled.

[36:58] A lot of these heating systems are over 10 years

[37:00] old now.

[37:01] You you're thinking about them going in brand new and.

[37:05] Many of 'em are over 10 years old and they

[37:06] do have maintenance parts.

[37:08] They're not as, as much as oil. And I think

[37:11] the chairman could probably chime in on that more so

[37:14] than I with, with his profession. But.

[37:16] They still have maintenance parts and we also have.

[37:20] A maintenance service agreement because we have them serviced twice

[37:22] a year.

[37:24] So they come in and they check 'em all out.

[37:25] They clean them.

[37:28] So

[37:29] this is all based on a fixed maintenance agreement and

[37:32] also repair costs.

[37:35] Well, I, it, it just appears to me that if

[37:38] we're putting $40,000 a year into maintain it, maintaining a.

[37:43] System.

[37:45] are we wasted our money, putting that service in

[37:47] there.

[37:48] I mean in the buildings that I've owned.

[37:51] You haven't got to spend that much money.

[37:53] Every year to maintain it. You have to do it

[37:55] periodically. Yes.

[37:57] But not every year. And I know that that particular

[38:00] heating system is one of the ones that requires the

[38:04] lease maintenance.

[38:06] So it just doesn't seem right. That we have to

[38:08] spend $50,000 a year.

[38:11] Rounded figures on maintenance.

[38:15] Not that we shouldn't spend maintenance. I don't say that.

[38:18] But it's just the amount that, that.

[38:20] Is bothering me.

[38:23] And, and part, part of that too. Mr. Styles.

[38:27] You know, if you think about twice a year on.

[38:29] Because if 30 heating systems.

[38:32] So it's roughly $1,400.

[38:34] Per, you know, per unit.

[38:37] Allocation. So they've got the twice a year.

[38:40] Servicing that takes place. And then God forbid you have

[38:42] a, a system that fails.

[38:45] Fails. So to replace one of those, you're probably talking

[38:47] in the 10, 10 K range, $10,000 range now for

[38:50] a burner and a boiler.

[38:52] So, this is kind of your, your.

[38:56] In many ways, your pricing for your.

[38:58] Your annual operation, but also your worst case scenario. So

[39:01] if we have a couple systems that might fail during

[39:03] the year,

[39:05] as they get over 10 years old, then.

[39:08] We at least have a little bit of a cushion

[39:09] in there. And if you look at what our.

[39:13] Actuals on our heating.

[39:15] Systems are usually around.

[39:17] Around 2020 K per year, 20 to 30 K per

[39:20] year.

[39:21] Roughly in that range so that you know, that invariably

[39:24] will.

[39:25] Invariably will be

[39:27] once one or two systems may go down. And so

[39:30] that's why we kind of price that.

[39:32] Into there as well.

[39:35] Okay. Yep.

[39:36] Next question I have is we have a, a budget

[39:39] for legal and accounting of a thousand.

[39:43] Do we have any, any real legal.

[39:46] Problems or accounting problems that we need to budget that

[39:48] much for.

[39:50] I think what we're doing is allocating that.

[39:53] Potentially, I'd say you could look at for a legal

[39:55] expense.

[39:57] If God forbid you had someone that.

[39:59] Either needed to

[40:02] to leave due to nonpayment, or if you had an

[40:03] eviction or something along those lines that you had to

[40:06] take place, or if there was some.

[40:08] It's it's more like insurance on that as far as

[40:10] from the legal standpoint.

[40:12] The accounting's more allocation for what the town annually spends

[40:15] for auditing.

[40:16] So it's all, you know, we try to find.

[40:18] You know, cuz they'll audit these books as well as

[40:20] partly the, the whole town's municipal audit.

[40:25] I understand, but that seems like a lot.

[40:27] Based on the past history, what I'm looking at.

[40:32] Okay. I realize I'm nitpicking, but that's okay. I just,

[40:35] I just.

[40:37] Want to get the thinking. I want to look at

[40:39] the budget to make sure.

[40:41] That I understand it. One.

[40:44] And, and I understand the health insurance. There's not much

[40:46] you can do about that.

[40:48] Understand, a lot of the other things that.

[40:51] That I know, but water and sewer.

[40:54] You know,

[40:57] on you mentioned.

[40:59] Solar for electrical.

[41:01] How does that apply to this budget?

[41:05] It won't apply to this budget.

[41:08] Mm-hmm , it may apply to our residents budgets personally,

[41:11] as we go forward when we have recommendations. So if

[41:14] there's a savings that we can apply.

[41:16] And let's and don't hold me to these numbers.

[41:20] But I'm just saying figuratively, let's say you're your monthly

[41:23] electric electricity bill is a hundred dollars a month.

[41:27] And if we now have that as part of the

[41:29] umbrella of under the town's.

[41:32] Town's solar solar system or, or solar.

[41:35] Solar ecosystem, not solar system. Well, the planets, but you

[41:38] get the gist.

[41:41] Then we could look at that and say, okay, if

[41:42] we could half that.

[41:45] Say you end up telling residents. Okay. If you had

[41:47] a one bedroom.

[41:48] One bedroom unit, your electrical bill will now be $50

[41:51] a month.

[41:53] And then we'll put that into a sinking fund to

[41:54] help us.

[41:55] On the capital expense, or if you had a two

[41:57] bedroom unit, let's say it's 70 bucks a month or

[42:00] something.

[42:01] Something along those lines because of it'll be a significant

[42:04] savings of what they're currently paying for their electrical bills.

[42:07] So that may be a benefit to our residents.

[42:10] Residents when we get to that point, but we can't,

[42:11] we don't want to book it right now cuz we're

[42:13] not sure.

[42:15] What that number looks like. Understood.

[42:17] But I think it's a, it's, it'll be a, it'll

[42:20] be a future discussion, but.

[42:21] So one to understand that. So there may be a

[42:24] savings later this year that we could come forward with

[42:26] and say, you know, we can take this all under

[42:29] the umbrella of the town.

[42:30] Town's electrical pattern and

[42:33] our residents could look at us savings in their own

[42:34] personal individual budgets, but we just need to figure out

[42:37] what that number looks like.

[42:38] I understand. Thank you. Yep. Thanks for the questions.

[42:42] Questions, any other questions?

[42:45] Questions. I okay. I just wanted to point out that

[42:49] the.

[42:50] The loan for the kitchens.

[42:53] Kitchens that is

[42:56] done in two years. Is that correct? Yes. So then.

[43:00] Maybe that would open up an opportunity to look for

[43:04] another loan to, to finance.

[43:07] Some big project or you would just transfer into a

[43:10] savings yeah. Over in the budget overall. Yeah, we could,

[43:13] we could. Thanks.

[43:15] Mr maser for that question. It's.

[43:17] That's a very good observation. And I think we could

[43:19] look at that.

[43:21] Either as a savings or something, we could book for

[43:23] our reserves as wealth.

[43:25] In the future, but it wouldn't be as great. We

[43:26] could, we could reduce that somewhat, but also.

[43:29] Let's just say

[43:31] improve our, our savings account in the event that we

[43:34] had to do new sightings or roofing or windows.

[43:37] Or all the above at some point.

[43:40] Because I remember when capital reserve was a little healthier,

[43:43] so that would be good. Yep. So we, we need

[43:45] to get there. .

[43:49] I just have one thing to say. Yep.

[43:52] I think that the information that's been put together here

[43:55] is, is excellent. And I think that we have to

[43:58] remember when we talk.

[44:00] About increases and what's happened in the last three or

[44:02] four years in terms of all of the increases that

[44:05] we've seen.

[44:06] In housing, which is why it's so difficult to get

[44:09] to affording affordable housing.

[44:11] We're talking about 30 units here and it's a lot

[44:15] of real estate. It's a lot of.

[44:18] It's a lot of things that could potentially go wrong.

[44:20] It's a lot of driveways. It's a lot of garages.

[44:22] It's a lot of kitchens. It's a lot of.

[44:25] Everything and

[44:28] to me.

[44:30] Just with seeing what's happened over the last few years.

[44:33] The increases in the proposed.

[44:35] Expenses that have been put together here.

[44:39] Are prudent.

[44:43] Again for 30 units.

[44:45] So thank you for your work. Thanks Ms. Eel.

[44:49] Any other comments on the proposed budget?

[44:52] Okay, can I entertain a motion for the.

[44:55] Proposed budget is presented by the town manager.

[44:59] I moved to accept the budget for the coming year

[45:02] as proposed by the town manager.

[45:05] Second second, second. .

[45:09] Any, any further discussion?

[45:14] All in favor.

[45:17] Opposed.

[45:19] Okay. All right. So

[45:22] at this point in time, we will.

[45:24] Start the discussion for the rent increase.

[45:27] Any other further print comments around the rate rent increase.

[45:31] I think you also wanted a.

[45:34] Motion to approve the rate increase. Yeah, that's what we're

[45:37] starting right now. So any, any further discussions on the

[45:39] renting proposed rent increase?

[45:41] Yeah, that too high, but that's all right.

[45:44] I will move acceptance of the manager's.

[45:49] Manager's manager suggestion of a 4% increase. Okay. Do I

[45:53] have a second?

[45:54] Second. Okay. Any further discussion?

[45:58] Okay. All in favor.

[46:01] Unanimous.

[46:03] Okay. So now we are to general public comment.

[46:08] Anything else you would like to say that we haven't

[46:10] gone over today so far and Mr. Veil, thank you

[46:12] so much for.

[46:15] This wonderful service. We're bringing the mic around. I appreciate

[46:17] that. no swearing. I, Mr. Styles, classmate.

[46:23] Yeah, college classmate of mine.

[46:26] On the issue of

[46:28] cleaning the

[46:31] the heating.

[46:33] Units for the gas. It's a great.

[46:37] It's I think it's just great. They get cleaned.

[46:41] And there was a time when.

[46:44] The lawnmower people hit.

[46:46] Hit one and rich.

[46:49] His and rich called in and we had, we had

[46:52] to evacuate our places and stand outside and couldn't even

[46:56] go back.

[46:57] In and get our jewelry box or our pocket, our

[47:00] pocket books.

[47:02] Pocketbooks. And it was very scary. And tho tho it

[47:05] makes me feel very good to know that those gas

[47:08] units are being serviced.

[47:11] Serviced. I look at that little.

[47:13] Gas unit on the back of the building.

[47:15] And it just is a big comfort to know money's

[47:18] being spent to clean that up.

[47:23] thank you.

[47:28] Again, if you could say your name and what I

[47:30] know where you're from, but there are people on TV

[47:32] that may just be tuning in. They would.

[47:34] Love to know who you are. Hi, Nancy. Hussie again.

[47:37] I wonder if it's possible to replace the battery.

[47:41] In the thermostats.

[47:43] Thermostats when they come in and do the other batteries.

[47:47] For the smoke alarms. I had to call Tom out

[47:50] this past winter.

[47:52] Because I didn't know how to change them. and

[47:54] I had no heat and God bless them. He came.

[47:57] But I hated bringing him out to do it. And

[48:00] I just wondered if it could be on a cycle.

[48:03] And it just do it when the other batteries are

[48:05] done. That's a, that's a great suggestion. I see that

[48:08] Christina's typing and Chris's writing. So I think that's.

[48:11] That's something we can we'll make note of that. That's

[48:13] a good idea. Great suggestion. I know you have a

[48:15] big budget for batteries. we do. We had a

[48:18] couple of double ass.

[48:19] A's hanging around. .

[48:25] Any other public comment.

[48:30] Oh,

[48:31] Mr veil.

[48:34] Two carpets. The lions club has a.

[48:38] A committee for community service and, you know, we might

[48:42] not be outta line to.

[48:44] Engage with the lions club and spend, you know, a

[48:47] Saturday afternoon.

[48:49] Down at Hawthorne court and, and, you know,

[48:52] going through everybody's units and, and, you know, helping out

[48:54] with whatever.

[48:56] Things they might need.

[48:58] Might be time well spent for everybody.

[49:01] On another note, we talked about bill. I, I, I

[49:04] wanted to follow this.

[49:05] We talk about maintenance on a, on a gas.

[49:09] Heaters and stuff like that. We have a gas tank

[49:11] up on the hill here.

[49:13] And we're about ready to expand that gas tank.

[49:17] To double the size and it never.

[49:20] Goes empty.

[49:22] So just think about filling up your car.

[49:25] And, and you don't have to refill it.

[49:27] Eh, the price is

[49:29] fixed the cost of the filling of gas tank will

[49:32] never go up.

[49:34] So one of the things that we are gonna explore

[49:37] over the next year, once we have the, the, the

[49:39] solar, the additional solar panels online.

[49:43] Is what the capacity is.

[49:45] And so one of the things we're, we're thinking about

[49:48] doing.

[49:49] Has converting the heating systems.

[49:51] I honor Hawthorne court to heat pumps, electrical. So.

[49:57] He had gained two things. One, you don't have to

[49:59] worry about the cost of the fuel oil or the

[50:01] gas fluctuating.

[50:03] It's it's a fixed cost, you know?

[50:05] We, what we do have to partake in account is

[50:07] the, the upfront cost, the capital cost of, of changing

[50:11] the equipment. But it's it.

[50:14] It's it's an opportunity for the town to.

[50:17] Provide not only in, in Hawthorne court, but in all

[50:21] of our buildings that are municipally owned, as you know,

[50:26] equipment wears out, replacing it with heat, pumps that heat

[50:29] and cool. And, and the energy to run it is

[50:32] provided by our, our solar farm.

[50:34] So I think

[50:37] you know, just making note of one other thing, the

[50:40] idea of, of, you know, in the old days, when

[50:42] you had an oil burner, you could get it up

[50:44] and running.

[50:45] With a $3 part, you know, those days are gone.

[50:49] It's, you know, a service call is a thousand dollars

[50:52] today. It's.

[50:53] It's, you know, it's

[50:56] it's it's a complexities of the, the, the.

[51:00] All the switching gear and, and the, the.

[51:03] Electronics it's

[51:05] it's it's it's serious money. So.

[51:07] I support the, the path that we're headed and the

[51:10] maintenance.

[51:12] Yes. I, I do cringe at that $40,000 too. But.

[51:16] I think we can we'll we'll work towards.

[51:20] Towards transferring over to heat pumps.

[51:22] Pumps. Thank you, Bob. Thank you.

[51:27] Any other public comment.

[51:31] Anything else from you, Mr. Manager, Mr. Mr. Bock or

[51:35] Christina?

[51:36] The town rests, Mr. Chairman. Okay, great. Any other bird

[51:40] board comments before we ask for AOR?

[51:43] Okay. I have a motion to Ajo. Do we need

[51:45] to set a new, another meeting date or we be

[51:48] leaving up to Christine.

[51:53] What is your favor?

[51:55] What is my favorite mm-hmm I like dealing with

[51:57] her I, I think she is so darn efficient.

[52:01] I think it would really great to leave it.

[52:03] In her capable hands .

[52:05] Cuz, you know, if I schedule the meeting, I'll be

[52:07] late to it. .

[52:11] So this move we adjourn. Can I have a second?

[52:15] Second.

[52:17] Hey, all in favor.

[52:19] Okay. It's NIS. Meaning is over.

[52:21] Thank you all for coming. Really? It's great to see

[52:23] you all.

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